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| Rocket2DMn | Hey guys, I have a question about configuring an upstream link for an Ubuntu package | 01:33 |
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| Rocket2DMn | the package "telepathy-stream-engine" has no upstream links defined, and i think it should be "stream-engine" - https://launchpad.net/stream-engine | 01:33 |
| Rocket2DMn | I don't see anything in the trunk, is it still OK to make the connection? | 01:34 |
| kiko-afk | yes, it's okay | 01:35 |
| Rocket2DMn | its ok to make that connection? ive never done this before | 01:36 |
| beuno | Rocket2DMn, sure it is | 01:37 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok thanks kiko-afk and beuno | 01:38 |
| beuno | Rocket2DMn, setting these upstream links helps in Launchpad in general, so thanks for takin the time to do it ;) | 01:39 |
| kiko-afk | Rocket2DMn, thanks for adding the data, it's really cool to see them going in | 01:39 |
| Rocket2DMn | its no problem, i filed a bug upstream already for it, it's just the first time i've tried to draw those connections in LP | 01:39 |
| Rocket2DMn | for it = some bug | 01:39 |
| Rocket2DMn | bug 322368 in case youre interested, i wanted the upstream link to be available at the top | 01:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 322368 in telepathy-stream-engine "telepathy-stream-engine crashed with signal 5 in g_return_if_fail_warning()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322368 | 01:40 |
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| lamothe | Hi all, are normal users able to disable/delete a project? | 11:28 |
| maxb | Don't think so, there are regularly people in here being asked to file a request at http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad for that | 11:37 |
| lamothe | maxb: Ok, Thanks. | 11:44 |
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| lamothe | I've just had an argument with one of the ArchLinux packagers who claims that if I'm not willing to implement other people's features then I should close up Me TV and not release it under the GPL. | 12:50 |
| lamothe | Also, he claims that I should not utilise open source hosting sites such as SourceForge and LaunchPad. | 12:50 |
| lamothe | Has he got a point? | 12:50 |
| lamothe | Am I obliged to care if I use LP? | 12:51 |
| Ursinha | you can host it at launchpad if your project is GPL or compatible | 12:52 |
| Ursinha | if not, you can't, unless you pay for it | 12:52 |
| lamothe | From my understanding of the GPL (which is indeed the license), I'm not obligated to listen to what other people want, am I? | 12:54 |
| lamothe | I mean I do listen ... but if unless I want the feature, I'm not doing it. | 12:54 |
| maxb | Indeed, there's no obligation to do work for other people | 12:55 |
| lamothe | Ok, maybe if a blind guy asked me to help him out then I might do it. | 12:55 |
| bac | lamothe: obligated? no. if your source is available (as it must be) the other party can fork your project and do as they wish. | 12:55 |
| lamothe | Not even, I throw/merge/patch/xcopy anything in there. | 12:56 |
| bac | lamothe: but it may be an opportunity for you to try to compromise with the user and perhaps get a collaborator. | 12:56 |
| lamothe | I really don't care, as long as it works for me. | 12:56 |
| lamothe | bac: Nice, now this has my attention. | 12:56 |
| maxb | Are they demanding you write features for them, or are they grizzling that you don't want to merge patches that they write? | 12:57 |
| lamothe | maxb: Neither ... and here's the grey bit. They are saying that if I say "It's not my problem that my product doesn't support your system" then I'm not acting within GPL and that I should stop using LP an SF. Sure, it's harsh .. but I've got a life like the rest of us. | 12:58 |
| maxb | Oh, Well in that case they're just being morons. The GPL doesn't promise support | 12:59 |
| lamothe | i.e Not my problem = I don't care ... sure it's harsh but I'm stretched very thin here. | 12:59 |
| lamothe | Well he got kinda nasty (I'm a cry baby) and it got me thinking, why am I dealing with this ... hence the mention of a collaborator really got me thinking. | 13:01 |
| bac | lamothe: FTR,as maxb said his mention of GPL violation is bogus and therefore you are, of course, welcome to continue using LP. but, as a tactic, it may be interesting to suggest he submit a patch, which puts the ball in his court rather than you having to be defensive over your lack of resources (time) to solve his problem. | 13:03 |
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| lamothe | bac: Oh man, if I had a penny for every time I tried the old "submit a patch thing" ... that's what started the war. "I don't have time to learn to code", "A developer can do it faster" ... hence I say, it's not my problem. | 13:04 |
| lamothe | This is not the first one either. FOSS is sucking my will to live!!! | 13:05 |
| bac | lamothe: :) | 13:05 |
| lamothe | Well thanks for letting me rant (and the advice) I won't take any more of your valuable time. But for now Me TV lives on .... VICTORY!!! | 13:06 |
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| MagicFab | Hi all | 14:25 |
| MagicFab | How can I edit a FAQ in Answers ? | 14:25 |
| epsy | MagicFab, Edit question on the right panel? | 14:26 |
| MagicFab | no, edit the FAQ article itself | 14:27 |
| barry | MagicFab: i'm not sure, but let me see if i can find out for you | 14:29 |
| MagicFab | epsy, barry tx | 14:29 |
| MagicFab | I have a huge typo in this one, https://answers.launchpad.net/dell-mini/+faq/308 | 14:30 |
| epsy | yw | 14:30 |
| MagicFab | surprised there's no obvious way to change it :) | 14:30 |
| barry | MagicFab: do you see a Edit FAQ action above List all FAQs on the right? | 14:32 |
| barry | oic, that's what epsy was suggesting | 14:32 |
| barry | MagicFab: why doesn't that do what you want it to do? | 14:33 |
| MagicFab | nope | 14:34 |
| MagicFab | I only see "List all FAQs" | 14:34 |
| barry | MagicFab: i think that means you don't have the permission to edit it. if you /did/ have permission, you'd see that link and you'd be able to edit the faq title, keywords and content | 14:35 |
| MagicFab | So... other than being the original author, what other permission would be required and how would I obtain it ? | 14:35 |
| barry | MagicFab: fwiw, i don't see that link on that faq either | 14:35 |
| barry | MagicFab: good question! i would think as the original author, you'd have that permission. that seems like a bug to me | 14:36 |
| barry | MagicFab: let me see if i can find out who has permissions to edit a faq | 14:36 |
| barry | MagicFab: if i'm reading the code correctly, it looks liek you have to be a member of the answer contact team for dell-mini | 14:40 |
| MagicFab | barry, that's odd | 14:47 |
| * MagicFab tries that | 14:47 | |
| MagicFab | barry, thank you! I'd have never figured that out. I recently quit being a contact there. | 14:48 |
| MagicFab | barry, I guess we need to add that to the FAQ's FAQ :) | 14:49 |
| barry | MagicFab: :) glad to help! | 14:49 |
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| c_korn | hello. why keep I getting this mail although I have already deleted the package in the PPA? http://pastebin.com/m39ae1794 | 17:21 |
| maxb | c_korn: You can't re-upload a version even after it's been deleted, AFAIK | 17:26 |
| c_korn | maxb: so what do I have to do? change the revision number to 1~ppa2 ? | 17:27 |
| maxb | Yes | 17:28 |
| c_korn | maxb: thanks, that worked | 17:41 |
| maxb | staging is down? | 18:26 |
| * Ursinha looks | 18:28 | |
| Ursinha | maxb, we're working to put it up again | 18:30 |
| maxb | Is it worth putting in the channel topic? | 18:31 |
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| Ursinha | :) | 18:32 |
| thekorn | staging seems to be down, | 18:37 |
| thekorn | ups sorry, I need to read before writing | 18:37 |
| Ursinha | maxb, thanks for the topic suggestion :) | 18:48 |
| aboudreault | hi folks.. | 18:49 |
| aboudreault | is it possible to have a private groupd on launchpad (no public member) but to have public mailing list ? | 18:49 |
| barry | aboudreault: currently we only provide private membership teams, and those only on a special basis. usually open source projects don't have them. however, private membership teams (currently) implies private mailing lists | 18:53 |
| aboudreault | ha :( | 18:53 |
| aboudreault | so.. everyone can upload a package on the groupd PPA without restriction ? i don't like this so much | 18:54 |
| domas | just create separate ppa team | 18:55 |
| barry | aboudreault: maybe a restricted membership team would work for this? iow, you can control who is on the team, but the membership is still public | 18:55 |
| barry | domas: right | 18:55 |
| aboudreault | can't make restricted membership because people want to follow the Mailing list | 18:56 |
| domas | or make separate mailing list team | 18:57 |
| domas | :) | 18:57 |
| barry | aboudreault: aboudreault it's probably best to have two separate teams. one that controls permission to the ppa and one for your mailing list | 18:57 |
| aboudreault | ok, it think i'll do this. | 18:57 |
| domas | launchpad is about functionality, not esthetics | 18:58 |
| * domas ducks | 18:58 | |
| aboudreault | :) | 18:58 |
| barry | domas: we're working on it! :) | 19:00 |
| domas | barry: oh well, you got probably most round corners out of every other project hosting site | 19:02 |
| domas | :) | 19:02 |
| domas | still lack some ajax | 19:02 |
| barry | domas: stay tuned! :) | 19:02 |
| vadi2 | Are there any tools to automate the download/upload of lp translations? | 19:35 |
| barry | vadi2: have you looked at the API and launchpadlib? | 20:21 |
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| vadi2 | Heard of it - but I'm inept with python | 20:21 |
| barry | vadi2: you can program directly to the REST interface, but that's a low level interface. i'm not aware of any other language bindings to it though | 20:22 |
| barry | vadi2: other than that i'm not aware of any other such tools | 20:23 |
| vadi2 | I see | 20:24 |
| vadi2 | barry: "https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib" doesn't mention anything about translations | 20:25 |
| vadi2 | I suspect that's not in yet | 20:26 |
| barry | vadi2: that's possible too. i can take a quick peek at the code | 20:26 |
| barry | vadi2: looks like that's correct. afaict, translations are not exported yet | 20:33 |
| vadi2 | :\ ok. I found an upload script here: https://www.limewire.org/fisheye/browse/limecvs/public/launchpad-autoget/src/main/python/templateuploader but it doesn't work anymore as I was told | 20:34 |
| vadi2 | um, I think some translator put in their password for a string called "Password:" | 20:35 |
| vadi2 | because I got some suggestions and then a "j2VMyLknQGzB" string. | 20:36 |
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| kiko | vadi2, gotta give that person a special medal | 20:38 |
| vadi2 | heh | 20:39 |
| vadi2 | At least it's a good password | 20:40 |
| barry | vadi2: i've contact the ubuntu russian translators. if they have perms to delete that, i hope they will | 21:12 |
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| c_korn | hello. why are there builds in the queue although there are idle machines? https://launchpad.net/+builds | 21:29 |
| vadi2 | c_korn: they're taking a coffee break | 21:30 |
| stdin | it takes a minute for the builders to remove and then unpack the chroot | 21:32 |
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