[00:15] <owh> luckyone: You could of course install lighttpd instead of apache to save some serious RAM :)
[00:15] <ivoks> that's a myth
[00:15] <twb> owh: or thttpd
[00:15] <ivoks> and a flase one
[00:15] <ivoks> false
[00:16] <owh> ivoks: Can you elaborate on that please?
[00:16] <twb> Or use inetd to avoid consuming any RAM at all, except when you get a request
[00:16] <ivoks> apache worker uses less ram than lighttpd
[00:16] <owh> twb: At the expense of speed, but yes.
[00:16] <ivoks> and still is much powerfull
[00:16] <ivoks> or more :D
[00:16] <owh> I figured :)
[00:17] <kgoetz> i find that suprising. it also doesnt match my experiance :/
[00:17] <kgoetz> *sp
[00:17] <owh> ivoks: Well, that's really interesting. On a low memory VPS I have been advised to install lighttpd rather than apache.
[00:17] <owh> kgoetz: Hiya - melting in SA yet?
[00:17] <ivoks> owh: there is apache and there is apache
[00:18] <kgoetz> owh, 'yet'? with luck we'll stop melting in 2 days
[00:18] <ivoks> apache has different MPMs
[00:18] <owh> ivoks: for me it's *always* apt-get install apache :)
[00:18] <ivoks> worker is fast, but PHP doesn't work on it
[00:18] <kgoetz> owh, feel free to come and mop us up after
[00:18] <owh> kgoetz: s/melting/melted/
[00:18] <kgoetz> owh, s/big rants/yes
[00:18] <kgoetz> :p
[00:18] <twb> PHP doesn't ever *work*, but it might *run* on some MPMs
[00:19] <owh> kgoetz: ROTFL
[00:19] <twb> If you are trying to run PHP code you have bigger problems than apache's memory consumption
[00:19] <owh> twb: Heh
[00:19] <ivoks> :)
[00:19] <twb>   PID  Uid     VmSize Stat Command
[00:19] <twb>   617 root        428 S   httpd -p 80 -h /srv/www -r OpenWrt
[00:19] <ivoks> owh: by default, ubuntu installs worker
[00:19] <twb> ...that's busybox's http.  And since you are using initramfs-tools, you already have busybox installed.
[00:19] <owh> When I have a spare life I'll do some tests with lighttpd/php and apache/php
[00:20] <ivoks> owh: unless you ask for php, stupid non-threed safe language
[00:20] <owh> ivoks: Hey, I just write 'm.
[00:20] <owh> One day I'll have a whole spare hour to learn python :)
[00:20] <twb> Python's not exactly a huge step
[00:21] <kgoetz> owh, i hope that too. want to write my website in it ;/
[00:21] <ivoks> i wrote couple of them in python
[00:21] <ivoks> mod-python acctually
[00:21]  * twb is not a fan of dynamic websites.
[00:21] <owh> twb: I'm sure it's not, however, my existing PHP library won't "just work".
[00:22]  * kgoetz was a bit put off by the lack of a cpan for python
[00:22] <twb> kgoetz: that's called cheeseshop
[00:23] <twb> It's not as "one click" as cpan(1), but it has the same general role.
[00:23] <nschembr_> is there a group handling the livecd?
[00:23]  * kgoetz goes to look
[00:23] <twb> nschembr_: #ubuntu-installer
[00:24] <luckyone> I am trying to install ebox on my new NAS, but I am getting a no pubkey error from http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid main
[00:24] <luckyone> any idea how I can get around that?
[00:24] <nschembr_> kgoetz: twb: thank you
[00:24] <kgoetz> luckyone, find the pubkey and import it
[00:24] <twb> luckyone: yep, you want to /msg dpkg !apt-key XXXXXX, where XXXXX is the key's hash.  But you'll need to /join #debian-bots first.
[00:25] <twb> 11:27 <dpkg> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys x ; gpg --export x | sudo apt-key add -
[00:30] <luckyone> is the hash of the key listed after the NO_PUBKEY error?
[00:30] <luckyone> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 30B02BFA99E5A6E7
[00:31] <ScottK> Look at the LP page for that team's PPA and it'll have instructions.
[00:31] <nschembr_> twb: I've never submitted a bug report before. I'm looking to talk it over before I do.
[00:31] <ScottK> nschembr_: What's up?
[00:32] <nschembr_> I'm remastering the livecd.
[00:33] <nschembr_> I needed to include a static ip address
[00:33] <nschembr_> I used a working /etc/network/interface file
[00:33] <nschembr_> the disk continued to boot dhcp
[00:34] <nschembr_> I found the option ip=frommedia
[00:34] <nschembr_> the text file for isolinux for this option is blank
[00:34] <nschembr_> that is not the bug
[00:35] <ScottK> I think you want #ubuntu-installer to discuss that.
[00:41] <nschembr_> ScottK: twb: thank you for your time
[00:42] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[00:52] <twb> nschembr_: many of the options for the live CD's boot: prompt are not properly documented, due to the rate at which which the live-initramfs/casper teams add them.
[00:55] <nschembr_> twb that is not the bug
[00:55] <nschembr_> twb: The bug, if I've included a /etc/network/interface file
[00:55] <nschembr_> /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/23networking should use it without the option ip=frommedia
[00:56] <nschembr_> twb:  It's a small issue. I just spent 4 hours correcting it for myself
[00:56] <nschembr_> twb: I just can't tell if anyone else thinks this is a bug.
[00:57] <twb> OK, you want to report that either to the live-initramfs package (Debian) or casper package (Ubuntu).  The latter is a fork that periodically pulls in changes from the former.
[00:58] <twb> You can find the live-initramfs team on #debian-live on irc.oftc.net.
[00:58] <nschembr_> how do I find the casper pack
[00:58] <twb> nschembr_: in launchpad?  I don't know.
[00:58] <nschembr_> twb thank you
[00:59] <twb> (Personally I boycott launchpad because I can't even "log in" to it using w3m.)
[00:59] <twb> That guy needs to learn how to connect to two servers at once.
[01:15] <Bangers> Anyone know an automated way to build ubuntu-server, so that it works in VMWare ESX?  vmbuilder doesnt seem to support ESX
[01:17] <twb> Bangers: cdebootstrap?
[01:18] <twb> Bangers: or better, just booting the alternate CD within the VM, and doing a normal install?
[01:22] <Bangers> huh?
[01:22] <Bangers> I want an automated way to spit out a VMWare ESX Image to be imported into ESX and started
[01:22] <Bangers> For regression testing
[01:56] <deadbattery> anyone uses litespeed web server?
[02:22] <twb> Bangers: sorry; I'm assuming that ESX works in much the same way as kvm or vmware-server, in that you just give it some arbitrary boot media to boot from.
[03:38] <orudie> can someone recommend a webmail  ?
[03:42] <antdedyet> I hear squirrelmail can be useful
[04:28] <twb> If you want "overkill", then zimbra's webmail bit tries to be like Outlook Web Access.
[04:49] <deadbattery> has anyone used litespeed?
[04:57] <twb> deadbattery: never heard of it.
[06:45] <snuxoll> Would anyone happen to know how to setup php5 with mod_fastcgi?  I've been trying for the past hour to no avail
[06:51] <kansan> once you pop a gnome-terminal out... how do you pop it back in?
[06:55] <suigeneris> good morning
[06:58] <suigeneris> ScottK, are you there?
[07:21] <CrummyGummy> Hiya, I would like to control a service using upstart. It does however need an lsb compliant init script because of heartbeat. Any advice?
[07:30] <kraut> moin
[07:38] <twb> CrummyGummy: what is heartbeat?
[08:01] <CrummyGummy> twb: high availability suite for linux.
[08:28] <twb> And it needs it to be a sysvinit script in order to restart it?
[08:36] <suigeneris> can "Reply to all" be disabled on the server-side?
[08:50] <kansan> sudo: unable to resolve host ec2-67-202-1-110.compute-1.amazonaws.com  .... this looks very bad.... should i be concerned?
[09:06] <suigeneris> kansan, could be your dns is not functioning properly
[09:10] <Nafallo> ec2-67-202-1-110.compute-1.amazonaws.com has address 67.202.1.110
[09:16] <snuxoll> how predictable
[09:35] <snuxoll> got drupal working with lighttpd, now I just need to write a cronjob to start thin for my merb app
[10:00] <Nafallo> kirkland: btw. unicode doesn't work in screenrc ;-). tried to change \o/ to \☺/ ;-)
[10:02] <loofi> Hi everyone. Can someone give me some input on how to mount NTFS correctly in /etc/fstab on my server. I want to connect an USB-drive for backup. It is to be maounted in /media/storage and everyone can read/write.
[10:02] <loofi> By the way I am running Hardy
[10:03] <kirkland> Nafallo: LoL :-)
[10:54] <Scix> Anyone who now why sh is wining about a unexpexted "(", expecting "fi" at line 27? http://paste.ubuntu.com/114554/
[10:56] <Scix> its works when i run as bash, but its a script who is automaticaly called from /etc/profile.d/ at login, and then it doesn't help to set #! /bin/bash
[10:56] <Deeps> at a guess, because the ( ) syntax as you're using there isn't in sh, but is a bash feature instead
[10:57] <Scix> what should i use in sted?
[10:57] <Deeps> umm, bash
[10:58] <Scix> i've tried, but xsession is uses sh, and then the file is called, it's prosessed as sh, even when i set #! /bin/bash in the header. Sory bad english
[11:03] <Deeps> i dont know enough as to whether that should be the case or not, sorry
[11:03] <Deeps> it doesn't sound right to me though
[11:05] <soren> Scix: Arrays are a bash thing; you can't use them in dash
[11:06] <soren> Scix: However, it seems to be a rather pointlesss use of arrays.
[11:07] <Scix> soren: Why is it pointles? How can I scan tro the users groups, and do something, whithout having them in a array?
[11:08] <soren> What's wrong with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114571/ ?
[11:08] <Scix> sorry, i've postet wrong pastebin:P http://paste.ubuntu.com/114554/
[11:09] <soren> Well, you might need to put some extra quotation marks in there in case you've got something returning grouop names with spaces in them.
[11:09] <soren> Scix: No, that's what you posted.
[11:09] <Scix> :P
[11:09] <Scix> so i dont need the array :)
[11:10] <soren> Scix: What I just sent you was a patched version of your script.
[11:12] <Scix> soren: yes, you removed line 27?
[11:12] <Scix> and changed 29
[11:13] <Scix> but now i'm getting bad substitution at line 39
[11:14] <soren> I didn't test it.
[11:15] <Scix> sry, pebcak
[11:15] <soren> I don't have the environment that it's made for, you know :)
[11:16] <Scix> tank you so much :)
[11:17] <ScottK> suigeneris: I am now.
[11:19] <suigeneris> ScottK, if you are following postfix-users, I am having problem with using the new TLS certificate I have generated
[11:19] <ScottK> I hadn't (I tend to skim it).  What's the subject?
[11:19] <suigeneris> TLS certificate
[11:20] <ScottK> OK.  I'll look.
[11:34] <undef> hello
[11:41] <suigeneris> ScottK, I've to go have lunch, will you be here in 1hrs?
[11:42] <ScottK> More likely in two.
[11:42] <suigeneris> okay
[11:42] <suigeneris> brb, lunch
[12:51] <suigeneris> i am back
[13:03] <ScottK> I am sort of here, but trying to get my youngest off to school.
[13:03] <ScottK> I haven't had a chance to look at postfix-users yet.
[13:04] <suigeneris> okay, chill
[13:04] <suigeneris> i'll be lurking
[13:06] <suigeneris> let me ask you something. is it possible to disable "reply to all" with postfix?
[13:11] <ScottK> No.
[13:11] <ScottK> Reply-to-all is a mail client function.
[13:11] <ScottK> By the time it gets to Postfix, there's no way to know that's what happened.
[13:11] <lamont> "reply to all" is in the client's user agent (evolution, etc), not in the MTA
[13:57] <WoLf_Loonie> Hello, and sorry to disturb.. I'm having a couple issues with some web scanner that is clogging my apache2 logs.. I know how to avoid the logging itself, but I would like to completely block the requests containing this "Toata dragostea mea pentru diavola" header.. Anyone could point me to the correct resource or help me with that issue?
[13:58] <ivoks> so, it's causing denial of service?
[13:59] <WoLf_Loonie> more like, it's a major issue trying to check the logs, as I have thousands of those lines every day.
[13:59] <alex_joni> WoLf_Loonie: "diavola" looks like a typo, wrong gender
[13:59] <ivoks> well, start with blocking those request on iptables level
[14:00] <ivoks> instal fail2ban and configure it
[14:00] <WoLf_Loonie> 192.89.36.220 - - [05/Feb/2009:22:28:58 +0100] "GET /wikis/bin/configure?action=image HTTP/1.1" 403 192 "-" "Toata dragostea mea pentru diavola"
[14:00] <WoLf_Loonie> one example
[14:00] <alex_joni> WoLf_Loonie: ok..
[14:06] <orudie> ivoks, hi my friend
[14:07] <ivoks> hello
[14:07] <orudie> email is working :)
[14:07] <ivoks> zul: .de? :D
[14:07] <ivoks> zul: you're in berlin! you dirty bas... :D
[14:07] <ivoks> orudie: great
[14:08] <zul> ivoks: da im in berlin like everyone else
[14:09] <orudie> ivoks, do you think you can help me out with webmail ?
[14:14] <suigeneris> zul, I'm not in Berlin
[14:17] <orudie> ivoks, can you recommend a webmail client ?
[14:20] <orudie> ivoks, what do you think about roundcube ?
[14:34] <suigeneris> ScottK, are you free now?
[14:34] <ScottK> Yes
[14:34] <ScottK> I was just looking at my setup and it's a bit different.
[14:35] <henkjan> orudie: roundcube is nice
[14:35] <ScottK> suigeneris: For the cacert, I just smtpd_tls_CAfile=/etc/postfix/certs/cacert.pem
[14:35] <ScottK> That seems to be sufficient for me.
[14:36] <ivoks> orudie: roundcube is great
[14:41] <orudie> can you guys help me to get that set up ?
[14:49] <suigeneris> ScottK, I edited my main.cf to have that, and I still get the warning at http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/cert.png
[14:51] <ScottK> suigeneris: That's an error of your desktop not understanding the cert, not on the server.
[14:51] <ScottK> You need to install the cacert.pem on your desktop where your mail client can find it.
[14:51] <Faust-C> yeah
[14:52] <suigeneris> how can I offer the new certificate?
[14:53] <ScottK> I put the cacert on my web server and give clients the chance to download it.
[14:53] <ScottK> That or you can pay a commercial CA to sign it for you.
[14:59]  * soren likes roundcube as well
[14:59] <soren> It's the only webmail client I can tolerate.
[15:03] <MadChopr> you don't like squirrelmail?  if so, why?
[15:03] <Faust-C> cause its fugly
[15:03] <soren> That sums it up pretty well.
[15:04] <MadChopr> :)
[15:04] <MadChopr> agreed.
[15:05] <soren> roundcube doesn't get in my way and it does the whole ajax thing.. It's just very convenient.
[15:05] <Faust-C> but roundcube is featureless
[15:05] <Faust-C> well for my company anyway
[15:06] <MadChopr> what features does your company expect in a mail program, and what do you use for your company Faust-C ?
[15:06] <Faust-C> MadChopr: i need a groupware suite, and atm i have nothing but shitty MDaemon pop3 and outlook
[15:07] <ivoks> ugliest software on the planet
[15:07] <ivoks> well
[15:07] <MadChopr> what groupware software are you looking into?
[15:07] <ivoks> squirrel also doesn't do groupware
[15:07] <ivoks> but roundcube does have a support for common addressbook :)
[15:07] <Faust-C> phpgroupware, egroupware
[15:09] <MadChopr> Faust-C: you have a sway with which one to go with yet?
[15:09] <Faust-C> not yet
[15:09] <Faust-C> havent tested any out
[15:09] <ivoks> umm...
[15:09] <ivoks> unison?
[15:09] <Faust-C> i was looking at horde but its too odd
[15:09] <ivoks> it's desktop app
[15:10] <ivoks> unison server + unison desktop
[15:10] <ivoks> based on thunderbird
[15:10] <ivoks> looks good
[15:10] <Faust-C> doesnt it cost $
[15:10] <ivoks> i've downloaded it
[15:10] <Faust-C> ivoks: like it so far?
[15:10] <ivoks> didn't use it yet :D
[15:10] <ivoks> i which days have 48 hours
[15:10] <ivoks> whish
[15:11] <ivoks> All downloads above are of our sponsor-supported version. You may use it without charge. For our paid version, without ads, you can purchase Unison licenses here.
[15:11] <Faust-C> heh
[15:12] <ivoks> http://www.unison.com/what-is-unison/pricing.php
[15:13] <orudie> ivoks, i'm currently looking at this http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Howto_Install
[15:13] <ivoks> you can install roundcube with:
[15:13] <ivoks> sudo apt-get install roundcube-mysql
[15:14] <suigeneris> my roundcube has no installer dir in it. why?
[15:14] <ivoks> you apt-get it?
[15:15] <ivoks> Faust-C: fwiw, it start 20-30 seconds on my laptop
[15:15] <suigeneris> yes
[15:15] <ivoks> then it is installed
[15:16] <suigeneris> tolga@ozses:/usr/share/roundcube$ ls
[15:16] <suigeneris> bin  config  index.php  logs  main.inc.php.dist  program  skins  temp
[15:16] <ivoks> suigeneris: it's installed
[15:16] <suigeneris> oh
[15:16] <ivoks> you installed it with apt-get
[15:16] <ivoks> no need to do all that stuff
[15:16] <suigeneris> I don't need installer/
[15:16] <ivoks> just go to the web page
[15:17] <ivoks> you should configure it, though
[15:17] <orudie> ok i installed it
[15:17] <ivoks> in /etc/roundcube/
[15:17] <ivoks>  /m nickserv change-channel-name-to #not-roundcube-support
[15:17] <ivoks> :)
[15:17] <orudie> ivoks, i love you
[15:18] <ivoks> lol nickserv
[15:18] <ivoks> chanserv
[15:18] <suigeneris> weeee
[15:18] <orudie> hmmm
[15:18] <orudie> i dont see roundcube in /etc/
[15:18] <suigeneris> at last i have a webmail
[15:19] <ivoks> orudie: you didn't install it; for the last time: sudo apt-get install roundcube-mysql
[15:19] <suigeneris> ivoks, how do i set default mail server and remove the relevant field?
[15:19] <orudie> ivoks, i did sudo apt-get install roundcube-mysql :)
[15:19] <ivoks> suigeneris: /etc/roundcube
[15:19] <orudie> right after you told me
[15:19] <ivoks> main.inc.php
[15:21] <orudie> ivoks.....
[15:22] <MadChopr> where is the ubuntu pastie?
[15:22] <orudie> ivoks, http://pastebin.com/m446f2f1b
[15:22] <MadChopr> i don't see it in the topic
[15:22] <orudie> MadChopr, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[15:22] <orudie> maybe this i'm not sure
[15:22] <ivoks> orudie: you are a fast learner :)
[15:23] <MadChopr> orudie: thank yuo
[15:23] <ivoks> sudo apt-get install roundcube roundcube-mysql
[15:23] <orudie> installing 18 mb
[15:23] <orudie> Configuring roundcube-core
[15:24] <orudie> ivoks, Configure database for roundcube with dbconfig-common?
[15:24] <ivoks> yes
[15:25] <orudie> ok done
[15:26] <orudie> ivoks, now i'm in /etc/roundcube , open main.inc.php ?
[15:26] <ivoks> configure it to your preferences
[15:27] <orudie> ivoks, ok i'm in main.inc.php
[15:27] <orudie> ivoks, i'm lost in this config :)
[15:29] <Gargoyle> afternoon
[15:30] <orudie> morning
[15:31] <suigeneris> bye all
[15:32] <orudie> ivoks, help please?
[15:35] <orudie> henkjan, around ?
[15:40] <z0det> hi when i try to sudo apt-get install irssi or any other progs, i only come to 0% [Connecting to se.archive.ubuntu.com (130.239.18.137)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37)] [Connecting to ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.90.217)]
[15:41] <z0det> and it wont install any thing
[15:41] <z0det> any tips?
[15:45] <maxb> Verify that you can contact the servers in a browser
[15:45] <maxb> Or some wget/curl
[15:47] <z0det> i can
[15:47] <z0det> root@dump:/home/dump# ping www.google.se
[15:47] <z0det> PING www.l.google.com (74.125.43.147) 56(84) bytes of data.
[15:48] <z0det> or i dont
[15:48] <z0det> ehehe
[15:48] <z0det> wtf :C
[15:52] <z0det> but my friend kan ssh two it
[15:52] <z0det> thats sick 8]
[15:53] <orudie> ivoks, back ?
[15:53] <ivoks> omg
[15:53] <ivoks> orudie: stop following me around
[15:54] <z0det> ;D
[15:55] <ivoks> orudie: what's the problem?
[15:57] <piquadrat> Hi! I want to set up fastcgi with suexec on apache. The docroots of the VirtualHosts are in /home/someuser/someproject/public_html. AFAIK, suexec doesn't allow wildcards in the path to the docroot, so I would have to compile suexec with docroot=/home. Would that be a security risk?
[15:57] <orudie> ivoks, ummm, i'm not sure what to do after sudo apt-get install roundcube-mysql
[15:57] <ivoks> use it?
[15:58] <orudie> ummm whats the url though ?
[15:58] <ivoks> http://your_server/roundcube
[15:59] <orudie> ivoks, url not found
[15:59] <orudie> ivoks, http://www.selsovet.com/roundcube
[16:00] <ivoks> open /etc/roundcube/apache.con
[16:00] <ivoks> conf
[16:00] <ivoks> and uncomment Alias /webmail /var/lib/roundcube
[16:00] <ivoks> reload apache 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[16:02] <orudie> i dont see Alieas
[16:02] <orudie> i see <Directory /var/lib/roundcube/>
[16:02] <orudie> errr
[16:02] <orudie> hold on
[16:02] <orudie> sorry i see it now
[16:03] <orudie> ivoks, only ucomment one line?
[16:03] <ivoks> that's what i said
[16:03] <orudie> hmmm
[16:04] <orudie> ivoks, http://www.selsovet.com/roundcube/ really weired language :)
[16:04] <ivoks> lol
[16:04] <ivoks> it's your's system default
[16:04] <ivoks> i guess you are in georgia, usa?
[16:04] <orudie> what? lol
[16:04] <orudie> no
[16:05] <orudie> the server is in NJ
[16:05] <orudie> i am in NY
[16:05] <ivoks> well, you choosed georgia as server location
[16:05] <ivoks> that's country on the east of europe
[16:05] <ivoks> some would say even asia
[16:05] <orudie> georgia, USA  is in the USA
[16:06] <ivoks> ah... americans
[16:06] <orudie> server was migrated from state of georgia to the state of new jersey, all within US
[16:06] <ivoks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country)
[16:06] <orudie> dude
[16:06] <orudie> i know where Georgia is
[16:06] <orudie> i'm Russian
[16:06] <orudie> i know some georgian immagrants here in the US
[16:06] <ivoks> well, whoever installed it, he set it up to be in georgia, Europe, not georgia USA
[16:07] <orudie> so how can i change it, caus i changed the timezone recently to eastern u.s.
[16:08] <ivoks> good question :)
[16:08] <tewmten> change the /etc/timezone to point to the correct file
[16:08] <orudie> maybe i can specify the language that used by roundcube ?
[16:08] <ivoks> sudo /usr/share/locales/remove-language-pack gr?
[16:08] <ivoks> without ?
[16:08] <tewmten> have a look in /usr/share/zoneinfo/
[16:08] <tewmten> where are the timezone files are
[16:09] <ivoks> orudie: what's the output of 'cat /etc/timezone'?
[16:09] <tewmten> find the one you need, symlink it to /etc/timezone
[16:09] <ivoks> not symlink
[16:09] <orudie> cat /etc/timezone
[16:09] <orudie> America/New_York
[16:10] <orudie> hmmmmm
[16:10] <ivoks> export | grep LANG
[16:10] <orudie> so should i sudo /usr/share/locales/remove-language-pack gr  ?
[16:10] <orudie> export | grep LANG - no output
[16:11] <ivoks> no output?
[16:11] <orudie> nope
[16:11] <orudie> silent
[16:13] <ivoks> heh
[16:13] <tewmten> locale -a
[16:13] <tewmten> perhaps?
[16:13] <ivoks> that's all supported locales
[16:14] <orudie> hmmm... ?
[16:14] <ivoks> how about 'locale'
[16:14] <tewmten> yeah
[16:14] <ivoks> hahaha probably his email server also responds with georgian translation :D
[16:14] <tewmten> i dunno, when it comes to locales Im really clueless.. C or GTFO I say! :P
[16:14] <ivoks> me too
[16:15] <orudie> do you want to see the output of locale? http://pastebin.com/m3acc33f9
[16:15] <ivoks> ok...
[16:15] <ivoks> anyway
[16:15] <orudie> ivoks, i tried sending emails back and forth after you helped me last night, it was fine
[16:15] <ivoks> in /etc/roundcube/main.inc.php
[16:15] <ivoks> there's a line
[16:15] <ivoks> $rcmail_config['locale_string']
[16:16] <ivoks> it should be set to en_US
[16:16] <ivoks> that's line ~130
[16:16] <ivoks> or ~120
[16:16] <orudie> yup found $rcmail_config['locale_string']
[16:16] <ivoks> if it is set to en_US, then you don't have en_US locale, and you can install them with:
[16:16] <ivoks> sudo /usr/share/locales/install-language-pack en
[16:16] <orudie> / the default locale setting
[16:16] <orudie> $rcmail_config['locale_string'] = 'am';
[16:16] <ivoks> am? :)
[16:17] <orudie> yeah whats that lol ?
[16:17] <ivoks> who set it to am?
[16:17] <orudie> not me
[16:17] <orudie> i didnt even know about it
[16:17] <ivoks> it didn't by it self
[16:17] <ivoks> ok... change am to en_US
[16:17] <orudie> maybe its not secure ?
[16:18] <ivoks> it probably read system default
[16:18] <orudie> ok ok
[16:18] <orudie> $rcmail_config['locale_string'] = 'en_US';
[16:18] <orudie> like this ?
[16:18] <ivoks> yes, save that
[16:18] <orudie> ok done
[16:18] <ivoks> now install locale
[16:18] <ivoks> sudo /usr/share/locales/install-language-pack en
[16:19] <orudie> complete
[16:20] <ivoks> hm
[16:20] <ivoks> restart apache :)
[16:20] <ivoks>  /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:20] <ivoks> but, it should work by now :/
[16:20] <ivoks> hm hm
[16:20] <orudie> ok restarted
[16:21] <ivoks> paste the output of locale -a on the pastebin
[16:21] <orudie> http://pastebin.com/m1ff2dc1
[16:23] <undef> hey
[16:23] <undef> did anything changed on intrepid related to xen ?
[16:23] <orudie> ivoks, i think its $rcmail_config['locale_string'] = 'en';  , not en_US
[16:23] <orudie> i'm reading forums
[16:23] <undef> aptitude install ubuntu-xen-server apparently doesn't install a *-xen kernel anymore
[16:23] <ivoks> it's en_US
[16:25] <ivoks> orudie: who installed that server?
[16:25] <orudie> VPS company
[16:25] <orudie> linode
[16:25] <ivoks> call them and tell them that they are in USA, not Georgia
[16:25] <ivoks> :D
[16:25] <MadChopr> i'm thinking about reinstall ubuntu server from scratch cause i'm so ignorant with this stuff.
[16:26] <orudie> i should
[16:26] <ivoks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[16:27] <orudie> i just did tell them that
[16:27] <ivoks> lol
[16:28] <orudie> i'm in the irc channel with them :)
[16:28] <orudie> i dont care those people are only nice to you before you sign up for their VPS, once you sign up they start acting like assholles
[16:29] <orudie> ivoks,  should i sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf ?
[16:29] <ivoks> this is an old article :/
[16:29] <orudie> oooh :(
[16:29] <ivoks> no
[16:29] <ivoks> that doesn't exist
[16:30] <orudie> hmmm
[16:30] <ivoks> do this:
[16:31] <ivoks> cat /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local
[16:31] <ivoks> what's in it?
[16:31] <orudie> the list of en
[16:31] <orudie> en_SG.UTF-8 UTF-8
[16:31] <orudie> en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
[16:31] <orudie> en_ZA.UTF-8 UTF-8
[16:31] <orudie> en_ZW.UTF-8 UTF-8
[16:31] <orudie> and others
[16:32] <ivoks> soren: http://sparklingdev.artruist.net/?p=3 'Gosh! What a jerk created this bloody virtual machine image for Amazon EC2?' :)
[16:33] <orudie> ivoks, out of ideas... ?
[16:33] <ivoks> orudie: well, everything is as it should be
[16:34] <ivoks> orudie: you've restarted apache?
[16:34] <ivoks> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:34] <orudie> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:34] <orudie>  * Restarting web server apache2                                                                      apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 207.192.72.15 for ServerName
[16:34] <orudie>  ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 207.192.72.15 for ServerName
[16:34] <orudie>                                                                                                [ OK ]
[16:34] <ivoks> odd
[16:35] <orudie> yeah lol
[16:35] <orudie> what the hell
[16:35] <orudie> maybe reinstall roundcube ?
[16:35] <ivoks> no
[16:35] <orudie> and first make sure the default language is en_US of the system
[16:36] <orudie> ok....
[16:36] <ivoks> there must be a reason why it's like that
[16:38] <jtaji> not sure what you guys are up to.. but the first thing I do on Ubuntu on Linode is: apt-get install language-pack-en && update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[16:38] <ivoks> hm
[16:38] <jtaji> never had issues after that
[16:38] <ivoks> it tries to autodetect
[16:38] <ivoks> right
[16:38] <ivoks> orudie: purge roundcube
[16:38] <ivoks> orudie: apt-get purge reoundcube.*
[16:39] <ivoks> postinst:                 -e "s+^\(\$rcmail_config\['locale_string'\] = '\).*\(';\)\$+\1${language}\2+" >> $CONFFILE.ucftmp
[16:40] <ivoks> orudie: during installation of roundcube, it asked about the language
[16:40] <ivoks> and you hit ENTER
[16:40] <ivoks> selecting the first one - am
[16:40] <ivoks> armenian
[16:40] <ivoks> or whatever
[16:42] <ivoks> next time, select your language
[16:42] <ivoks> :)
[16:42] <orudie> i dont think it asked me about the language
[16:42] <orudie> but i'll try again
[16:43] <orudie> Deconfigure database for roundcube with dbconfig-common?  Yes No
[16:43] <ivoks> yes
[16:45] <orudie> OK done
[16:46] <orudie> sudo apt-get install roundcube roundcube-mysql ?
[16:46] <orudie> or restart apache first ?
[16:46] <ivoks> just install
[16:47] <orudie> ok done
[16:47] <orudie> it didnt ask me for the language
[16:47] <ivoks> ok
[16:48] <ivoks> then just uncomment Alias line in /etc/roundcube/apache.conf
[16:48] <orudie> ok did it
[16:49] <orudie> same thing
[16:49] <orudie> :(
[16:49] <ivoks> hehe
[16:49] <orudie> / the default locale setting
[16:49] <orudie> $rcmail_config['locale_string'] = 'am';
[16:49] <ivoks> sudo apt-get install language-pack-en && update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[16:50] <orudie> done
[16:50] <ivoks> dpkg-reconfigure roundcube-core
[16:51] <orudie> IMAP server(s) used with RoundCube:
[16:51] <ivoks> for the questions you don't know the answer, just accept default
[16:52] <orudie> If this is left blank, a text box will be displayed at login.
[16:52] <ivoks> put localhost
[16:52] <orudie> ok dude
[16:52] <orudie> now i have option to change language
[16:52] <orudie> yay !!!
[16:53] <orudie> ummm
[16:53] <orudie> same thing :(
[16:53] <orudie> maybe i should have reinstalled the database
[16:53] <orudie> when it asked me to
[16:54] <ivoks> no
[16:54] <ivoks> it didn't change settings in main.inc.php
[16:54] <ivoks> open /etc/roundcube/main.inc.php
[16:55] <ivoks> look for am
[16:56] <orudie> ummmm
[16:56] <orudie> needed to clear cache and cookies in firefox
[16:56] <orudie> now its english dude
[16:56] <orudie> :)
[16:58] <ivoks> right
[16:58] <ivoks> so the problem is that guys in Linode don't setup locales
[17:01] <orudie> yeah
[17:01] <orudie> hang on
[17:08] <orudie> ivoks, it works, but when sending message it says "error accured when SAVING"
[17:08] <orudie> but the message is sent
[17:10] <ivoks> orudie: you're on your own
[17:10] <ivoks> i can't help you anymore
[17:10] <ivoks> take care guys
[17:11] <orudie> ivoks, thanx for your help bye
[18:23] <Adri2000> is anyone here using samba as nt primary domain controller, with an interdomain trust relationship established with another nt domain?
[18:25] <Adri2000> with such a configuration, there is a bug making winbind crash when trying to retrieve the list of groups (getent group)
[18:25] <Adri2000> I found a patch fixing that, and am considering SRUing it. but I'm not sure if I'll find enough testers
[18:49] <itsbth> I'm having some issues connecting my server to the LAN
[18:51] <itsbth> It's connected to a wireless access point, which is also used for a other computer that does connect
[19:21] <orudie> does anyone know how to change the logo in roudcube webmail ?
[20:31] <guicho> i have a local domain in my network, thats call linux.local, and i activate a account
[20:32] <guicho> whith DynDns,
[20:32] <guicho> thats called ubuntulnx.homelinux.net
[20:34] <guicho> my question is, i have to configure this name in my local domain or simple
[20:34] <guicho> update the ip with DynDNS
[20:35] <downhill_> ddclient?
[20:35] <guicho> with inadyn
[20:35] <downhill_> that wasn't really a question, you know...
[20:40] <dazman> hmm
[20:40] <dazman> Hah
[20:56] <downhill_> heya dazman
[20:56] <dazman> downhill_, hi. :)
[20:56] <downhill_> what's crackin'?
[20:57] <dazman> not much
[20:57] <dazman> just sat staring at an IRC window it seems.
[21:00] <dazman> I found someone had blueprinted my ruby idea already, which is good.
[21:01] <downhill_> nice
[21:01] <dazman> altho, nothing seems to be done
[22:00] <jlc> anyone use schroot?
[22:03] <maxb> schroot is wonderful!
[22:04] <agentk> dazman: Turns out the problem with iptables you tried to help me with was that connections compleatly on localhost do not go through nat PREROUTING. Rules must be put in nat OUTPUT instead.
[22:06] <dazman> I thought that afterwards.. but you said it worked, so I dunno.. Haha.
[22:06] <maxb> http://www.dqd.com/~mayoff/notes/linux/iptables.png
[22:06] <maxb> ^ Very useful diagram
[22:06] <maxb> meh
[23:12] <hansin> Is eBox considered the best (or at last a good choice) for a web-based configuration option for Ubuntu Server?  I had trouble trying to install it on 8.10.
[23:12] <ScottK> There are some known problems on 8.10 that we're trying to get fixed right now, but generally yes.
[23:13] <ScottK> sommer: Did the ebox sru get uploaded yet?
[23:16] <hansin> Okay, thanks.  So here is a question/input I have.  I may be off basis here (not fuller versed), but it appears eBox wants a full Apache install with FGI perl.  Wouldn't it be nice to have something similar but which had its own lightweight webserver built into core, and even set up to run via inetd like Samba's Swat so that it only was loaded when needed?  Also, I wonder about Perl as the core language since many seem to lean toward
[23:17]  * ScottK just uses vim for his server gui.
[23:17] <ScottK> If you want lightweight, do it by hand.
[23:17] <ScottK> Not that the http gui couldn't be done in a lighter way ...
[23:19]  * antdedyet hasn't yet tried ebox... how did that come along, wondering...
[23:21] <hansin> ScottK: Good point, and these were just thoughts I had.  I don't have enough knowledge of eBox to make such judgements but I was doing some thinking after looking into it and these things came to mind (mostly build a webserver into core, but the language question was just an afterthought).
[23:46] <dazman> I reckon theres a real opening, as discussed the other night in here, for a fully wizard driven(?), configuration interface for Ubuntu server.. much like Windows SBS "Server Management".. but thats no small task :)
[23:50] <ivoks> you do realize that's impossible?
[23:50] <ivoks> even newer windows don't have wizzards for services configuration
[23:51] <ivoks> it's impossible to put all apache/postfix/sendmail configuration options into GUI wizzard
[23:51] <dazman> not really impossible.. you just have to limit the functionality they enable.
[23:52] <dazman> The Windows SBS wizards do just that.. they get common tasks working, based on a few configuration options given by the user.
[23:52] <ivoks> you already have that with postfix, for example
[23:52] <ivoks> if you install it, it will ask couple of questions and set everything up
[23:54] <ivoks> i just moved to 9.04 and ext4
[23:55] <dazman> true.. but thats postfix.  You still have users, samba/nfs, etc,etc.  The first thing you see on a Windows SBS box is the server management window and tools to set various stuff up..  I could give ubuntu server to most people, and they would't know how to create a windows share for example, to their network.
[23:56] <dazman> I could give most people a SBS box, and they'd be able to create users and the share I would guess pretty quickly.
[23:56] <dazman> but anyway... :)
[23:56] <ivoks> we have ebox for that
[23:57] <ivoks> it covers dhcp, mail, openvpn, smb...
[23:57] <ivoks> firewalling
[23:57] <ivoks> and it is very easy to use