[00:15] luckyone: You could of course install lighttpd instead of apache to save some serious RAM :) [00:15] that's a myth [00:15] owh: or thttpd [00:15] and a flase one [00:15] false [00:16] ivoks: Can you elaborate on that please? [00:16] Or use inetd to avoid consuming any RAM at all, except when you get a request [00:16] apache worker uses less ram than lighttpd [00:16] twb: At the expense of speed, but yes. [00:16] and still is much powerfull [00:16] or more :D [00:16] I figured :) [00:17] i find that suprising. it also doesnt match my experiance :/ [00:17] *sp [00:17] ivoks: Well, that's really interesting. On a low memory VPS I have been advised to install lighttpd rather than apache. [00:17] kgoetz: Hiya - melting in SA yet? [00:17] owh: there is apache and there is apache [00:18] owh, 'yet'? with luck we'll stop melting in 2 days [00:18] apache has different MPMs [00:18] ivoks: for me it's *always* apt-get install apache :) [00:18] worker is fast, but PHP doesn't work on it [00:18] owh, feel free to come and mop us up after [00:18] kgoetz: s/melting/melted/ [00:18] owh, s/big rants/yes [00:18] :p [00:18] PHP doesn't ever *work*, but it might *run* on some MPMs [00:19] kgoetz: ROTFL [00:19] If you are trying to run PHP code you have bigger problems than apache's memory consumption [00:19] twb: Heh [00:19] :) [00:19] PID Uid VmSize Stat Command [00:19] 617 root 428 S httpd -p 80 -h /srv/www -r OpenWrt [00:19] owh: by default, ubuntu installs worker [00:19] ...that's busybox's http. And since you are using initramfs-tools, you already have busybox installed. [00:19] When I have a spare life I'll do some tests with lighttpd/php and apache/php [00:20] owh: unless you ask for php, stupid non-threed safe language [00:20] ivoks: Hey, I just write 'm. [00:20] One day I'll have a whole spare hour to learn python :) [00:20] Python's not exactly a huge step [00:21] owh, i hope that too. want to write my website in it ;/ [00:21] i wrote couple of them in python [00:21] mod-python acctually [00:21] * twb is not a fan of dynamic websites. [00:21] twb: I'm sure it's not, however, my existing PHP library won't "just work". [00:22] * kgoetz was a bit put off by the lack of a cpan for python [00:22] kgoetz: that's called cheeseshop [00:23] It's not as "one click" as cpan(1), but it has the same general role. [00:23] is there a group handling the livecd? [00:23] * kgoetz goes to look [00:23] nschembr_: #ubuntu-installer [00:24] I am trying to install ebox on my new NAS, but I am getting a no pubkey error from http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid main [00:24] any idea how I can get around that? [00:24] kgoetz: twb: thank you [00:24] luckyone, find the pubkey and import it [00:24] luckyone: yep, you want to /msg dpkg !apt-key XXXXXX, where XXXXX is the key's hash. But you'll need to /join #debian-bots first. [00:25] 11:27 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys x ; gpg --export x | sudo apt-key add - [00:30] is the hash of the key listed after the NO_PUBKEY error? [00:30] GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 30B02BFA99E5A6E7 [00:31] Look at the LP page for that team's PPA and it'll have instructions. [00:31] twb: I've never submitted a bug report before. I'm looking to talk it over before I do. [00:31] nschembr_: What's up? [00:32] I'm remastering the livecd. [00:33] I needed to include a static ip address [00:33] I used a working /etc/network/interface file [00:33] the disk continued to boot dhcp [00:34] I found the option ip=frommedia [00:34] the text file for isolinux for this option is blank [00:34] that is not the bug [00:35] I think you want #ubuntu-installer to discuss that. [00:41] ScottK: twb: thank you for your time [00:42] You're welcome. [00:52] nschembr_: many of the options for the live CD's boot: prompt are not properly documented, due to the rate at which which the live-initramfs/casper teams add them. [00:55] twb that is not the bug [00:55] twb: The bug, if I've included a /etc/network/interface file [00:55] /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/23networking should use it without the option ip=frommedia [00:56] twb: It's a small issue. I just spent 4 hours correcting it for myself [00:56] twb: I just can't tell if anyone else thinks this is a bug. [00:57] OK, you want to report that either to the live-initramfs package (Debian) or casper package (Ubuntu). The latter is a fork that periodically pulls in changes from the former. [00:58] You can find the live-initramfs team on #debian-live on irc.oftc.net. [00:58] how do I find the casper pack [00:58] nschembr_: in launchpad? I don't know. [00:58] twb thank you [00:59] (Personally I boycott launchpad because I can't even "log in" to it using w3m.) [00:59] That guy needs to learn how to connect to two servers at once. [01:15] Anyone know an automated way to build ubuntu-server, so that it works in VMWare ESX? vmbuilder doesnt seem to support ESX [01:17] Bangers: cdebootstrap? [01:18] Bangers: or better, just booting the alternate CD within the VM, and doing a normal install? [01:22] huh? [01:22] I want an automated way to spit out a VMWare ESX Image to be imported into ESX and started [01:22] For regression testing === kgoetz is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [01:56] anyone uses litespeed web server? [02:22] Bangers: sorry; I'm assuming that ESX works in much the same way as kvm or vmware-server, in that you just give it some arbitrary boot media to boot from. === jetole_ is now known as jetole [03:38] can someone recommend a webmail ? [03:42] I hear squirrelmail can be useful [04:28] If you want "overkill", then zimbra's webmail bit tries to be like Outlook Web Access. [04:49] has anyone used litespeed? [04:57] deadbattery: never heard of it. [06:45] Would anyone happen to know how to setup php5 with mod_fastcgi? I've been trying for the past hour to no avail === _Nicke_ is now known as Nicke [06:51] once you pop a gnome-terminal out... how do you pop it back in? [06:55] good morning [06:58] ScottK, are you there? [07:21] Hiya, I would like to control a service using upstart. It does however need an lsb compliant init script because of heartbeat. Any advice? [07:30] moin [07:38] CrummyGummy: what is heartbeat? [08:01] twb: high availability suite for linux. [08:28] And it needs it to be a sysvinit script in order to restart it? [08:36] can "Reply to all" be disabled on the server-side? [08:50] sudo: unable to resolve host ec2-67-202-1-110.compute-1.amazonaws.com .... this looks very bad.... should i be concerned? === sloopy is now known as Guest87271 [09:06] kansan, could be your dns is not functioning properly [09:10] ec2-67-202-1-110.compute-1.amazonaws.com has address 67.202.1.110 === kansan is now known as kansan-zzz [09:16] how predictable [09:35] got drupal working with lighttpd, now I just need to write a cronjob to start thin for my merb app [10:00] kirkland: btw. unicode doesn't work in screenrc ;-). tried to change \o/ to \☺/ ;-) [10:02] Hi everyone. Can someone give me some input on how to mount NTFS correctly in /etc/fstab on my server. I want to connect an USB-drive for backup. It is to be maounted in /media/storage and everyone can read/write. [10:02] By the way I am running Hardy [10:03] Nafallo: LoL :-) [10:54] Anyone who now why sh is wining about a unexpexted "(", expecting "fi" at line 27? http://paste.ubuntu.com/114554/ [10:56] its works when i run as bash, but its a script who is automaticaly called from /etc/profile.d/ at login, and then it doesn't help to set #! /bin/bash [10:56] at a guess, because the ( ) syntax as you're using there isn't in sh, but is a bash feature instead [10:57] what should i use in sted? [10:57] umm, bash [10:58] i've tried, but xsession is uses sh, and then the file is called, it's prosessed as sh, even when i set #! /bin/bash in the header. Sory bad english [11:03] i dont know enough as to whether that should be the case or not, sorry [11:03] it doesn't sound right to me though [11:05] Scix: Arrays are a bash thing; you can't use them in dash [11:06] Scix: However, it seems to be a rather pointlesss use of arrays. [11:07] soren: Why is it pointles? How can I scan tro the users groups, and do something, whithout having them in a array? [11:08] What's wrong with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114571/ ? [11:08] sorry, i've postet wrong pastebin:P http://paste.ubuntu.com/114554/ [11:09] Well, you might need to put some extra quotation marks in there in case you've got something returning grouop names with spaces in them. [11:09] Scix: No, that's what you posted. [11:09] :P [11:09] so i dont need the array :) [11:10] Scix: What I just sent you was a patched version of your script. [11:12] soren: yes, you removed line 27? [11:12] and changed 29 [11:13] but now i'm getting bad substitution at line 39 [11:14] I didn't test it. [11:15] sry, pebcak [11:15] I don't have the environment that it's made for, you know :) [11:16] tank you so much :) [11:17] suigeneris: I am now. [11:19] ScottK, if you are following postfix-users, I am having problem with using the new TLS certificate I have generated [11:19] I hadn't (I tend to skim it). What's the subject? [11:19] TLS certificate [11:20] OK. I'll look. [11:34] hello [11:41] ScottK, I've to go have lunch, will you be here in 1hrs? [11:42] More likely in two. [11:42] okay [11:42] brb, lunch [12:51] i am back [13:03] I am sort of here, but trying to get my youngest off to school. [13:03] I haven't had a chance to look at postfix-users yet. [13:04] okay, chill [13:04] i'll be lurking [13:06] let me ask you something. is it possible to disable "reply to all" with postfix? [13:11] No. [13:11] Reply-to-all is a mail client function. [13:11] By the time it gets to Postfix, there's no way to know that's what happened. [13:11] "reply to all" is in the client's user agent (evolution, etc), not in the MTA [13:57] Hello, and sorry to disturb.. I'm having a couple issues with some web scanner that is clogging my apache2 logs.. I know how to avoid the logging itself, but I would like to completely block the requests containing this "Toata dragostea mea pentru diavola" header.. Anyone could point me to the correct resource or help me with that issue? [13:58] so, it's causing denial of service? [13:59] more like, it's a major issue trying to check the logs, as I have thousands of those lines every day. [13:59] WoLf_Loonie: "diavola" looks like a typo, wrong gender [13:59] well, start with blocking those request on iptables level [14:00] instal fail2ban and configure it [14:00] 192.89.36.220 - - [05/Feb/2009:22:28:58 +0100] "GET /wikis/bin/configure?action=image HTTP/1.1" 403 192 "-" "Toata dragostea mea pentru diavola" [14:00] one example [14:00] WoLf_Loonie: ok.. === paul_ is now known as orudie [14:06] ivoks, hi my friend [14:07] hello [14:07] email is working :) [14:07] zul: .de? :D [14:07] zul: you're in berlin! you dirty bas... :D [14:07] orudie: great [14:08] ivoks: da im in berlin like everyone else [14:09] ivoks, do you think you can help me out with webmail ? [14:14] zul, I'm not in Berlin [14:17] ivoks, can you recommend a webmail client ? [14:20] ivoks, what do you think about roundcube ? [14:34] ScottK, are you free now? [14:34] Yes [14:34] I was just looking at my setup and it's a bit different. [14:35] orudie: roundcube is nice [14:35] suigeneris: For the cacert, I just smtpd_tls_CAfile=/etc/postfix/certs/cacert.pem [14:35] That seems to be sufficient for me. [14:36] orudie: roundcube is great [14:41] can you guys help me to get that set up ? [14:49] ScottK, I edited my main.cf to have that, and I still get the warning at http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/cert.png [14:51] suigeneris: That's an error of your desktop not understanding the cert, not on the server. [14:51] You need to install the cacert.pem on your desktop where your mail client can find it. [14:51] yeah [14:52] how can I offer the new certificate? [14:53] I put the cacert on my web server and give clients the chance to download it. [14:53] That or you can pay a commercial CA to sign it for you. [14:59] * soren likes roundcube as well [14:59] It's the only webmail client I can tolerate. [15:03] you don't like squirrelmail? if so, why? [15:03] cause its fugly [15:03] That sums it up pretty well. [15:04] :) [15:04] agreed. [15:05] roundcube doesn't get in my way and it does the whole ajax thing.. It's just very convenient. [15:05] but roundcube is featureless [15:05] well for my company anyway [15:06] what features does your company expect in a mail program, and what do you use for your company Faust-C ? [15:06] MadChopr: i need a groupware suite, and atm i have nothing but shitty MDaemon pop3 and outlook [15:07] ugliest software on the planet [15:07] well [15:07] what groupware software are you looking into? [15:07] squirrel also doesn't do groupware [15:07] but roundcube does have a support for common addressbook :) [15:07] phpgroupware, egroupware [15:09] Faust-C: you have a sway with which one to go with yet? [15:09] not yet [15:09] havent tested any out [15:09] umm... [15:09] unison? [15:09] i was looking at horde but its too odd [15:09] it's desktop app [15:10] unison server + unison desktop [15:10] based on thunderbird [15:10] looks good [15:10] doesnt it cost $ [15:10] i've downloaded it [15:10] ivoks: like it so far? [15:10] didn't use it yet :D [15:10] i which days have 48 hours [15:10] whish [15:11] All downloads above are of our sponsor-supported version. You may use it without charge. For our paid version, without ads, you can purchase Unison licenses here. [15:11] heh [15:12] http://www.unison.com/what-is-unison/pricing.php [15:13] ivoks, i'm currently looking at this http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Howto_Install [15:13] you can install roundcube with: [15:13] sudo apt-get install roundcube-mysql [15:14] my roundcube has no installer dir in it. why? [15:14] you apt-get it? [15:15] Faust-C: fwiw, it start 20-30 seconds on my laptop [15:15] yes [15:15] then it is installed [15:16] tolga@ozses:/usr/share/roundcube$ ls [15:16] bin config index.php logs main.inc.php.dist program skins temp [15:16] suigeneris: it's installed [15:16] oh [15:16] you installed it with apt-get [15:16] no need to do all that stuff [15:16] I don't need installer/ [15:16] just go to the web page [15:17] you should configure it, though [15:17] ok i installed it [15:17] in /etc/roundcube/ [15:17] /m nickserv change-channel-name-to #not-roundcube-support [15:17] :) [15:17] ivoks, i love you [15:18] lol nickserv [15:18] chanserv [15:18] weeee [15:18] hmmm [15:18] i dont see roundcube in /etc/ [15:18] at last i have a webmail [15:19] orudie: you didn't install it; for the last time: sudo apt-get install roundcube-mysql [15:19] ivoks, how do i set default mail server and remove the relevant field? [15:19] ivoks, i did sudo apt-get install roundcube-mysql :) [15:19] suigeneris: /etc/roundcube [15:19] right after you told me [15:19] main.inc.php [15:21] ivoks..... [15:22] where is the ubuntu pastie? [15:22] ivoks, http://pastebin.com/m446f2f1b [15:22] i don't see it in the topic [15:22] MadChopr, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ [15:22] maybe this i'm not sure [15:22] orudie: you are a fast learner :) [15:23] orudie: thank yuo [15:23] sudo apt-get install roundcube roundcube-mysql [15:23] installing 18 mb [15:23] Configuring roundcube-core [15:24] ivoks, Configure database for roundcube with dbconfig-common? [15:24] yes [15:25] ok done [15:26] ivoks, now i'm in /etc/roundcube , open main.inc.php ? [15:26] configure it to your preferences [15:27] ivoks, ok i'm in main.inc.php [15:27] ivoks, i'm lost in this config :) [15:29] afternoon [15:30] morning [15:31] bye all [15:32] ivoks, help please? [15:35] henkjan, around ? [15:40] hi when i try to sudo apt-get install irssi or any other progs, i only come to 0% [Connecting to se.archive.ubuntu.com (130.239.18.137)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37)] [Connecting to ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.90.217)] [15:41] and it wont install any thing [15:41] any tips? [15:45] Verify that you can contact the servers in a browser [15:45] Or some wget/curl [15:47] i can [15:47] root@dump:/home/dump# ping www.google.se [15:47] PING www.l.google.com (74.125.43.147) 56(84) bytes of data. [15:48] or i dont [15:48] ehehe [15:48] wtf :C [15:52] but my friend kan ssh two it [15:52] thats sick 8] [15:53] ivoks, back ? [15:53] omg [15:53] orudie: stop following me around [15:54] ;D [15:55] orudie: what's the problem? [15:57] Hi! I want to set up fastcgi with suexec on apache. The docroots of the VirtualHosts are in /home/someuser/someproject/public_html. AFAIK, suexec doesn't allow wildcards in the path to the docroot, so I would have to compile suexec with docroot=/home. Would that be a security risk? [15:57] ivoks, ummm, i'm not sure what to do after sudo apt-get install roundcube-mysql [15:57] use it? [15:58] ummm whats the url though ? [15:58] http://your_server/roundcube [15:59] ivoks, url not found [15:59] ivoks, http://www.selsovet.com/roundcube [16:00] open /etc/roundcube/apache.con [16:00] conf [16:00] and uncomment Alias /webmail /var/lib/roundcube [16:00] reload apache 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload [16:02] i dont see Alieas [16:02] i see [16:02] errr [16:02] hold on [16:02] sorry i see it now [16:03] ivoks, only ucomment one line? [16:03] that's what i said [16:03] hmmm [16:04] ivoks, http://www.selsovet.com/roundcube/ really weired language :) [16:04] lol [16:04] it's your's system default [16:04] i guess you are in georgia, usa? [16:04] what? lol [16:04] no [16:05] the server is in NJ [16:05] i am in NY [16:05] well, you choosed georgia as server location [16:05] that's country on the east of europe [16:05] some would say even asia [16:05] georgia, USA is in the USA [16:06] ah... americans [16:06] server was migrated from state of georgia to the state of new jersey, all within US [16:06] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country) [16:06] dude [16:06] i know where Georgia is [16:06] i'm Russian [16:06] i know some georgian immagrants here in the US [16:06] well, whoever installed it, he set it up to be in georgia, Europe, not georgia USA [16:07] so how can i change it, caus i changed the timezone recently to eastern u.s. [16:08] good question :) [16:08] change the /etc/timezone to point to the correct file [16:08] maybe i can specify the language that used by roundcube ? [16:08] sudo /usr/share/locales/remove-language-pack gr? [16:08] without ? [16:08] have a look in /usr/share/zoneinfo/ [16:08] where are the timezone files are [16:09] orudie: what's the output of 'cat /etc/timezone'? [16:09] find the one you need, symlink it to /etc/timezone [16:09] not symlink [16:09] cat /etc/timezone [16:09] America/New_York [16:10] hmmmmm [16:10] export | grep LANG [16:10] so should i sudo /usr/share/locales/remove-language-pack gr ? [16:10] export | grep LANG - no output [16:11] no output? [16:11] nope [16:11] silent [16:13] heh [16:13] locale -a [16:13] perhaps? [16:13] that's all supported locales [16:14] hmmm... ? [16:14] how about 'locale' [16:14] yeah [16:14] hahaha probably his email server also responds with georgian translation :D [16:14] i dunno, when it comes to locales Im really clueless.. C or GTFO I say! :P [16:14] me too [16:15] do you want to see the output of locale? http://pastebin.com/m3acc33f9 [16:15] ok... [16:15] anyway [16:15] ivoks, i tried sending emails back and forth after you helped me last night, it was fine [16:15] in /etc/roundcube/main.inc.php [16:15] there's a line [16:15] $rcmail_config['locale_string'] [16:16] it should be set to en_US [16:16] that's line ~130 [16:16] or ~120 [16:16] yup found $rcmail_config['locale_string'] [16:16] if it is set to en_US, then you don't have en_US locale, and you can install them with: [16:16] sudo /usr/share/locales/install-language-pack en [16:16] / the default locale setting [16:16] $rcmail_config['locale_string'] = 'am'; [16:16] am? :) [16:17] yeah whats that lol ? [16:17] who set it to am? [16:17] not me [16:17] i didnt even know about it [16:17] it didn't by it self [16:17] ok... change am to en_US [16:17] maybe its not secure ? [16:18] it probably read system default [16:18] ok ok [16:18]