[00:00] <encaputxat> hello
[00:00] <meshuggah> hi encaputxat
[00:00] <nickrud> GuruDrew, if you knew how many times I've had to help people surgically remove poorly installed software to avoid them having to reinstall, you'd have pity on my poor psyche ;)
[00:00] <misieq> where do files received via bluetooth go?
[00:00] <encaputxat> i wanna connect two machines via ethernet to share internet, i can do it without cross-over?
[00:01] <m4zt3r> Can anyone explain why all of a sudden my mozilla browser no longer has the minimize, maximize, and close icons at the top, even after reboot?  Its like the top section is just blank other than what looks like a loding circle in the top right
[00:01] <encaputxat> i have a friend that tell me is auto switch
[00:01] <meshuggah> ecaputxat : i dont think, cross-over cable or a rooter or something
[00:01] <oskar> encaputxat:  take two cables and put a hub or a switch between
[00:01] <GuruDrew> nickrud: Haha, okay, I'll make sure to keep it in my back pocket as the very last resort
[00:01] <nickrud> GuruDrew, that's all we ask. Sometimes it is the only solution
[00:01] <encaputxat> my macs can do it
[00:02] <CyBurnet> GuruDrew, "unable to save data" "you do not have permission to edit this file" "unable to determine permissions of the disk" etc
[00:02] <oskar> encaputxat:  or take another medium, that can handle ip, for example a serial line, wireless lan, bluetooth ;)
[00:02] <durt> m4zt3r: F11
[00:02] <redvamp128> m4zt3r:  have you enabled compiz? Sometimes that disappears with Nvidia Cards and some Ati Cards-
[00:02] <encaputxat> thankx
[00:02] <encaputxat> thaankx  bye
[00:02] <SpaZZoiD> hey
[00:02] <meshuggah> how can i remove the ubuntu graphic when i boot...i want to see the lines of text, with beautiful login: text on black screen when booting
[00:02] <redvamp128> m4zt3r:  and there is a fix to get it back -- if you have done that
[00:04] <ngirard> Hi all. Since my update from hardy to intrepid, my <down> key only works in console. It generates no X event. How to fix this ?
[00:04] <redvamp128> m4zt3r:  and also have you hit the f11 key that will make it disappear to.
[00:05] <meshuggah> uh? what happened?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: check keyboard layout
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> meshuggah: awesome nick dude :D
[00:05] <ngirard> ActionParsnip: What do you mean ? in xorg.conf ?
[00:05] <KenBW2> "error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs" <-- what does that mean and how do I fix it?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard | ngirard
[00:05] <indy_> hey
[00:05] <SpaZZoiD> how do i make this stop telling me when people join an leave
[00:05] <meshuggah> actionparsnip: thank you :))
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> KenBW2: try sudo fsck.ntfs
[00:06] <KenBW2> ActionParsnip: i did
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> SpaZZoiD: depends on client
[00:06] <ngirard> ActionParsnip: xorg.conf is fine, as far as I can tell
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard
[00:06] <SpaZZoiD> im useing xchat that came with ubuntu
[00:06] <luigi_> someone use here maxwell render?
[00:06] <meshuggah> how can i remove the ubuntu graphic when i boot...i want to see the beautiful lines of text
[00:06] <KenBW2> ActionParsnip: actually, misread. it says command not found
[00:07] <SpaZZoiD> pm me if u can help
[00:07] <SpaZZoiD> or join #spazzoid
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: go to your keyboard settings in settings manager or whatever it is in gnome and make sure its the right layout
[00:07] <adaptr> SpaZZoiD: that would be the same thing, duh
[00:07] <m4zt3r> redvamp128, well if i hit f11, and its fullscreen, icons are present.  if i hit f11 again, then they top bar doesnt have the icons...seems like its loading because theres a circle of dots where the icons normally are
[00:07] <redvamp128> m4zt3r:  did you enable compiz?
[00:08] <ngirard> ActionParsnip: err... actually I'm using the Kubuntu flavor. Which package should I install to get Gnome's system settings ?
[00:08] <redvamp128> m4zt3r:  with some nvidia cards it disappears -- (there is a fix to add ) to fix that issue.
[00:08] <_VIM_> saying 'duh' or 'RTFM!' is not very ubuntu-like please be nice :)
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: run systemsettings its in there]
[00:09] <m4zt3r> redvamp128, well no i havent turned it on or off....why would it change all of a sudden
[00:09] <adaptr> _VIM_: AFAIK asking for private help is not appreciated anywhere on freenode
[00:09] <redvamp128> m4zt3r:  some people just get the urge to see the cube and spin it
[00:10] <furythor1> how I do run compiz config ?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> adaptr: its ok if they ask first
[00:11] <nickrud> furythor1, install compizconfig-settings-manager, it'll be under system->prefs
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> furythor1: ccsm
[00:11] <redvamp128> m4zt3r:  was this all of a sudden? and have you tried - running firefox and create a new profile... (/.firefox -profilemanger
[00:11] <adaptr> ActionParsnip: apropos of nothing ? without asking...1350 people their burning question first ?
[00:11] <ngirard> ActionParsnip: Ok, fixed the problem. Thanks for your assistance
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> adaptr: no i meant if someone asks me if its ko to PM then i'll say ok then its not intrusive
[00:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:12] <adaptr> ActionParsnip: if it's a direct question to you, sure
[00:12] <adaptr> this, however, was not
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> adaptr: thats what i meant :)
[00:12] <nickrud> adaptr, ActionParsnip could you guys take this discussion to a pm or a private channel ?  :)
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> adaptr: yeah if its random its unwelcomed and i always tell them to ask in the room
[00:13] <m4zt3r> redvamp128 +1
[00:13] <adaptr> nickrud: hey, that was waay too pointed to be a coinkidink
[00:14] <beamsjr> When I install Ubuntu Server I end up at the grub menu after install, no errors... If I point to the config file it boots, any ideas on how I can fix this to boot with out me manually pointing it to the configfile?
[00:14] <SpaZZoiD> plase pm me an tell me hoe to register my nick
[00:14] <SpaZZoiD> how
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !register
[00:14] <nickrud> !register | SpaZZoiD
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> ubottu is asleep
[00:14] <KenBW2> "fsck.ntfs: command not found" <-- how do I fix that
[00:14] <SpaZZoiD> !register SpaZZoiD
[00:15] <nickrud> SpaZZoiD, /join #freenode , they help with registration
[00:15] <adaptr> SpaZZoiD: use slashes
[00:15] <musikgoat|main> KenBW2: install ntfs-utils i think
[00:15] <nickrud> ubottu just takes a while to get up to speed after it restarts
[00:15] <musikgoat|main> KenBW2: sorry, ntfsprogs
[00:16] <KenBW2> musikgoat|main: ntsprogs is already newest version
[00:16]  * nickrud was waiting for floodbot to mute ubottu
[00:16] <nickrud> heh
[00:16] <node357> you called that one, nickrud
[00:16] <CyBurnett> Is it possible to set programs as default in Ubuntu 8.04?
[00:16] <prince_jammys> CyBurnett: yes
[00:17] <prince_jammys> !defaultapp | CyBurnett
[00:17] <nickrud> CyBurnett, also, in a file manager edit->prefs media tab
[00:17] <Carefree[mib]> hello
[00:18] <CyBurnett> Thanks to all, have a nice day/night :-)
[00:18] <Carefree[mib]> How do you get the package manager to show non-application stuff like tcl/tk or linux-headers and stuff like that?
[00:18] <adi1> hi all
[00:19] <adi1> how can i mount ntfs volume in my laptop
[00:19] <maboughey> does anyone know if there should be a user with these details on ubuntu server / 	username:irc 	group:irc 	realname:ircd 	homedirectory:/var/run/ircd
[00:19] <prince_jammys> Carefree[mib]: which package manager? synaptic or aptitude would show that
[00:19] <nickrud> Carefree[mib], you mean system->admin->synaptic ?
[00:19] <adi1> i have installed ntfs3g but nothing
[00:19] <adi1> it says "unable to mount volume"
[00:19] <Carefree[mib]> oh, sorry, I just did add-remove XD
[00:19] <nickrud> maboughey, sounds right if you're running an irc server
[00:20] <beamsjr> how can I tell how much free space there is from terminal?
[00:20] <maboughey> nickrud, i dont have an irc server :/
[00:20] <yoyoned> beamsjr: df -h
[00:20] <nickrud> beamsjr,  df
[00:20] <Carefree[mib]> df -h
[00:20] <maboughey> nickrud, i cant find anything in /var/run
[00:20] <prince_jammys> maboughey: from my ubuntu hardy's /etc/passwd (not a server):  irc:x:39:39:ircd:/var/run/ircd:/bin/sh
[00:20] <beamsjr> Thanks!
[00:20] <nickrud> maboughey, neither do I, but I do have those in my passwd file.
[00:21] <maboughey> so should I woryy about them?
[00:21] <yoyoned> beamsjr: you can also use du -h in a folder to see how much is in that fiolder
[00:21] <nickrud> maboughey, I'm very comfortable that this virtual machine hasn't been hacked :)
[00:21] <techboi128> oh my god i just installed ubuntu for the first time and love it wow.. I have no Idea what im doing but think its amazing
[00:21] <maboughey> ok, there isnt any open ports that their shouldnt be anyway
[00:22] <Carefree[mib]> is wine decent?
[00:22] <Carefree[mib]> does it work much?
[00:23] <beamsjr> Does anyone know how to figure out grub problems?
[00:23] <hubar> depends on what you  use it for.
[00:23] <adaptr> no, it's lazy Carefree[mib]
[00:23] <kindofabuzz> wine plays my WoW, that's all that matters =)
[00:23] <hubar> if for modern games, no
[00:23] <yoyoned> beamsjr: describe your problem
[00:23] <Carefree[mib]> Would it work for an iphone tunneling program via wifi?
[00:23] <hubar> kindofabuzz, it does?
[00:23] <prince_jammys> !grub | beamsjr
[00:23] <Carefree[mib]> not wifi, USB
[00:23] <beamsjr> grub does not load the menu.lst file
[00:23] <kindofabuzz> hubar, umm yeah
[00:24] <furythor1> this font or what ever corruption is really weird as I tried to run one windows application with wine and it did not have any font issues. ..
[00:24] <hubar> kindofabuzz, I tried it, but then it crashed my laptop. :(
[00:24] <techboi128> I wanted to know if there is a way to use ie on ubuntu The only reason i ask is i work from home and i can only use ie for my vcms product
[00:24] <beamsjr> I have to manually load it by configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:24] <yoyoned> beamsjr: why do you think it's not loading menu.lst
[00:24] <kindofabuzz> hubar, coulld your laptop play wow in windows? your hardware may not be compatable
[00:24] <beamsjr> because I just get grub>
[00:24] <yoyoned> beamsjr: then how do you boot?
[00:25] <beamsjr> configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:25] <prince_jammys> !ies4linux | techboi128
[00:25] <beamsjr> grub> configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:25] <redvamp128> techboi128:  Though highly not recommended -- there is ies4linux Installing IEs4Linux on Ubuntu <http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ies4linux>
[00:25] <prince_jammys> techboi128: you need to install 'wine' first, if you haven't
[00:25] <hubar> kindofabuzz, I think so, my laptop is a lenovo T61. a very common model.
[00:26] <yoyoned> beamsjr: after booting, run sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[00:26] <kindofabuzz> For those of you with boot problems, best tool ever:  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[00:26] <beamsjr> ok, should I do /dev/hdc ? Thats my boot disk?
[00:26] <redvamp128> techboi128:  though have you also tried with firefox the user agent switching
[00:26] <furythor1> hubar you have problem of running world of warcraft in linux with wine ?
[00:26] <yoyoned> beamsjr: wherever grub is installed
[00:27] <RAdams> Just installed intrepid 64-bit on a system with an ASUS SK8N (nforce2) motherboard, Radeon 3650 AGP video card. xorg.conf was empty, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then startx. X worked, but stopped working on system restart. Any idea as to what's happening here, and how to get it working?
[00:27] <beamsjr> ok, thanks
[00:27] <redvamp128> techboi128:  User Agent Switcher :: Firefox Add-ons <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59>
[00:27] <hubar> furythor1, I *had*, I don't attempt to use Linux toplay WOW anymore. :)
[00:27] <techboi128> ok I know this may sound stupid but I have never use linux before and am willing to read and learn but would these programs be stable enough to run software for a vcms acpp and also stable enough to work on
[00:27] <yoyoned> beamsjr: configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't make sense if you booting of /dev/hdc
[00:28] <hubar> furythor1, It is way too large (12G!) to move around anyway. I am sick of waiting for the copying to finish.
[00:28] <beamsjr> actually its sdb
[00:28] <beamsjr> sdb1
[00:28] <furythor1> well, you can't run almost any "Direct 3D" sofware without some sort of serious problems in wine, however you can use "-opengl" switch to force WoW into openGL mode, which works well in wine...
[00:28] <E3b> hello all... I cant flush the DNS Cache on ubuntu... someone can help me please?
[00:28] <beamsjr> thats my / and where I told it to install the boot
[00:28] <lose_the_grimm> Hey guys, I'm running my ubuntu box as a router/file-server and my workstations can ping web address (www.google.com) but some applications will not work.
[00:29] <lose_the_grimm> e.g. firefox, chrome, safari, pidgin
[00:29] <beamsjr> is it possable I have grub also on sda?
[00:29] <RAdams> Just installed intrepid 64-bit on a system with an ASUS SK8N (nforce2) motherboard, Radeon 3650 AGP video card. xorg.conf was empty, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then startx. X worked, but stopped working on system restart. Any idea as to what's happening here, and how to get it working?
[00:29] <jken146> I have a USB to SATA bridge with a disk attached, that isn't showing up by fdisk -l.  I can see the USB gizmo with lsusb.  lshw hangs on SCSI, so I guess it is feeling the drive but not being able to go any further.  I'm not sure how to proceed.
[00:29] <yoyoned> beamsjr: if you want to boot into the instance of grub that you are currently running, you need to install it to the mbr of the first disk or /dev/sda
[00:30] <furythor1> Yeah I know the feeling, I did copy it once from HD to another, took 1 hour, during which my coputer could do nothing else without severly impacting moving speed ...
[00:30] <bbzez> whats the coolest theme from gnome-look?
[00:30] <kjell> Hai thar fellas!
[00:30] <linguini> Where is the default runlevel specified in ubuntu?
[00:30] <yoyoned> !ot|bbzez
[00:30] <heinrich> i dont have sound on me system
[00:30] <lose_the_grimm> my '/etc/network/interfaces': http://paste-it.net/public/c7aeb0d/
[00:31] <furythor1> also it is very recomendable to make DVD of WOW install files or Backup copy to another HD (Including patches)
[00:31] <heinrich> but my sond card is corectly detected
[00:31] <lose_the_grimm> result of iptables-save: http://paste-it.net/public/w0cfd50/
[00:31] <yoyoned> heinrich: check the voulume levels
[00:31] <kjell> I have a problem with my apache2. I accidentaly removed a config-file. I figured I would apt-get remove apache2, and then install it again. But the files missing didn't show up.
[00:31] <kjell> What to do?
[00:32] <heinrich> yoyoned: is 100%
[00:32] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: In Upstart
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> kjell: sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2
[00:32] <askvictor> I'm confused about the Volume control; the 'mic' levels in the playback tab - do they have any effect on the record levels or is that purely for monitoring?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> kjell: what file are you missing?
[00:32] <lose_the_grimm> Some applications are working, such as uTorrent, CXFire, a few others.
[00:32] <heinrich> yoyoned: i have 2 sound cards
[00:32] <progex> woa what is this
[00:32] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: I'm in console mode, I see no /etc/init/jobs.d
[00:33] <kjell> ActionParsnip: Currently, the whole /etc/apache2-folder.
[00:33] <RAdams> askvictor: purely for monitoring
[00:33] <Roken> Can anyone help with a xfce/gnome problem?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> kjell: the reinstall may help
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | Roken
[00:33] <kjell> ActionParsnip: Didn't show up after that line either :-/
[00:33] <Guest21058> hello all
[00:33] <RAdams> !hello | Guest21058
[00:33] <askvictor> RAdams and the Mic Boost levels?
[00:34] <RAdams> askvictor: anything in the playback section is only for playback, will not affect recording
[00:34] <Roken> Okay action =P
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> kjell: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2.2-common
[00:34] <Guest21058> looks like more than just me is having problems with audio
[00:34] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: I also see no 'man Upstart'
[00:34] <CyBurnett> anyone know of a good backup proggy that will backup my whole partition?
[00:34] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: But I also see no /etc/inittab
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !backup | CyBurnett
[00:35] <askvictor> RAdams: that's what I'd figure, but there are no mic boost options anywhere else - not sure how else to activate/deactivate mic boost
[00:35] <kjell> ActionParsnip: That did the trick. Although the /etc/apache2/sites-available-folder is empty. It was not the first time I installed it. Hah, what a mess I've done.
[00:35] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: That is because upstart isn't a program, it is a package. It provides /sbin/init amongst others. try "man init"
[00:35] <beamsjr> yoyoned /dev/hda did not fix it
[00:35] <CyBurnett> Once again thanks to all :)
[00:35] <beamsjr> sda*
[00:36] <beamsjr> Will try sdb
[00:36] <Guest21058> would someone be willing to help me fix an audio problem with a dell vostro 1400
[00:36] <RAdams> Just installed intrepid 64-bit on a system with an ASUS SK8N (nforce2) motherboard, Radeon 3650 AGP video card. xorg.conf was empty, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then startx. X worked, but stopped working on system restart. Any idea as to what's happening here, and how to get it working?
[00:36] <Roken> When I start my xfce session, my xfce toolbars come up, but when I right click on the desktop, I get the Ubuntu menu and not the xfce menu. It all started when I was in xfce and ran a xfrun4 -> gksu nautilus
[00:36] <RAdams> !anyone | Guest21058
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest21058: run lspci and it will identify the card, you can websearch that
[00:36] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: see /etc/event.d/rc-default - that is where "telinit 2" is executed
[00:36] <Roken> Now xfce is action funny
[00:36] <meshuggah> how can i install compiz on Xubuntu?
[00:37] <jken146> I have a USB to SATA bridge with a disk attached, that isn't showing up by fdisk -l.  I can see the USB gizmo with lsusb.  lshw hangs on SCSI, so I guess it is feeling the drive but not being able to go any further.  I'm not sure how to proceed.  dmesg says [sdb] Sense key: No Sense [current]
[00:37] <askvictor> RAdams: that's what I'd figure, but there are no mic boost options anywhere else - not sure how else to activate/deactivate mic boost
[00:37] <spsneo> sftp does not work in ibex. any solution?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> spsneo: filezilla supports sftp
[00:37] <Guest21058> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[00:37] <Guest21058> thats my device
[00:37] <askvictor> RAdams: I think xorg.conf is more or less not used these days unless you need to force options. Anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[00:38] <hubar> spsneo, what do you mean "does not work"?
[00:38] <jkristheking> hey anyone know of any techy irc channels?
[00:38] <spsneo> also network proxy does not set the authentication information in environment variable
[00:38] <kjell> ActionParsnip: Also the conf.d-folder is empty. Do you have apache2 installed and if so, could you clear out sensitive data and pastebin the files to me so I can create them my self? Or do you know any other way?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Roken: check  /home/username/.custommenu.xml
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Roken: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193093
[00:38] <Roken> Thanks, Action
[00:39] <spsneo> hubar: whenever I try to connect to my ubuntu desktop from any windows machine.. using some ssh client.. I am able to connect the command line but not the file browser
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> kjell: i don't, sorry
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> kjell: you could run: dpkg -l | grep apach
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> kjell: and apt-get --reinstall install all the things it finds
[00:39] <spsneo> hubar: any solution ?
[00:39] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: Thanks, I see.  I don't see that same info in 'man init' or similar.
[00:40] <jkristheking> anyone know of a tech irc channel? like asking questions?
[00:40] <Shanix_> hi all, how to upgrade to jaunty and not using the update-manager -d command ??
[00:40] <mcquaid> is there a utility to set a program to only one core?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest21058: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=747054
[00:40] <mcquaid> i think i have an issue where a program isn't dual core friendly
[00:40] <Imaginativeone_> does Clonezilla do compression?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | Shanix
[00:41] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: no, because /sbin/init is the first process executed by the kernel and just gets the upstart system going
[00:42] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: install the upstart source package and read the contents to understand more details (apt-get source upstart)
[00:42] <kjell> ActionParsnip: Thats actually quite odd. That didn't work out either. ->  .: 44: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars <-- cause there aint none :D
[00:42] <spsneo>  whenever I try to connect to my ubuntu desktop from any windows machine.. using some ssh client.. I am able to connect the command line but not the file browser
[00:42] <spsneo> any solution ^^
[00:42] <yoolao> hello, does some one knows how to suspend to ram from command line?
[00:42] <RAdams> askvictor: I see the list of supported cards by the ati driver, mine is in that list. I see it detecting my card correctly, it initializes the extensions and ends with a successful unblank of crtc 0
[00:43] <Imaginativeone_> I intend to back up my system with Clonezilla.  how do I minimize the number of dvds I'll need?
[00:43] <mcquaid> i'm reading on google hits what i want can be accomplished by a program called schedutils but can't find that in the pkgs
[00:43] <mcquaid> has that been replaced by something else?
[00:44] <RAdams> askvictor: this is odd... i can always get x to start with startx, but it won't start when i restart... could this be gdm crapping out?
[00:44] <Guest36056> whats happing here fellow /b/tards???
[00:44] <askvictor> RAdams: sounds like it
[00:44] <IntuitiveNipple> mcquaid: what's the misbehaving program?
[00:44] <askvictor> RAdams: So 'X' starts a blank X session OK?
[00:44] <askvictor> RAdams: (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get out of it)
[00:44] <mcquaid> punkbuster
[00:45] <mcquaid> all punkbuster games in linux and windows lag like hell
[00:45] <mcquaid> i've others having this issue and it sounds like pb is the issue
[00:45] <Guest36056> punkbuster for the lose :(
[00:45] <buckie> Guest36056: well you might think this is a ubuntu support channel, but its not
[00:45] <mcquaid> but it's a nightmare trying to change the affinity of a system process in windows
[00:45] <mcquaid> thought i'd have better luck in linux
[00:45] <RAdams> askvictor: i use startx after login via tty3, and it works fine
[00:46] <Guest36056> buckie, are you a fan of the good buckfast tonic wine???
[00:46] <RAdams> askvictor: going to install the proprietary driver and see what happens
[00:46] <buckie> Guest36056: yea i love that
[00:46] <RAdams> !offtopic | Guest36056
[00:46] <askvictor> RAdams: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[00:46] <RAdams> askvictor: will try that in a second
[00:46] <Guest36056> buckie, I fucking love the good tonic :)
[00:47] <mcquaid> supposedly what i want is schedutils part of util-linux but i don't see a bin called schedutils in util-linux pkg
[00:47] <Guest36056> where you from?
[00:47] <yoyoned> !ops
[00:47] <genewitch> is there an icecast streaming server for ubuntu?
[00:48] <buckie> Guest36056: Im from the internet
[00:48] <nickrud> Guest36056, stay on topic, and watch the language please
[00:48] <russia213> Grub error 21 while my external is plugged in, help?
[00:48] <buckie> !topic
[00:48] <buckie> hmmm
[00:48] <buckie> what is the tipic ? "ubuntu support channel be patient and read..."
[00:48] <IntuitiveNipple> mcquaid: taskset is in util-linux and should already be installed
[00:49] <nickrud> buckie, just type   /topic
[00:49] <SxNDave> : Official Ubuntu Support Channel Be patient and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Install Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[00:49] <buckie> Guest36056: so what do you think about that ? being patient ?
[00:49] <IntuitiveNipple> mcquaid: just try "man taskset" - if the man-page is there, so is the app
[00:49] <Guest36056> buckie, lolwot?
[00:49] <buckie> Guest36056: well you must stay on topic
[00:49] <mcquaid> ok
[00:49] <mcquaid> ya it's there thx reading now
[00:50] <buckie> Guest36056: otherwise bad boys kick you from channel
[00:50] <buckie> Guest36056: then they ban you
[00:50] <nickrud> Guest36056, buckie first 4 words, take them seriously please. This channel gets too busy for chit chat. #ubuntu-offtopic is provided for that
[00:51] <russia213> Any help with Grub?
[00:51] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: Thanks for the suggestion.  What I'm really after is getting 'syslogd -r' working. :-\  apt-get failed for me; I'm giving up for now.
[00:51] <SxNDave> try #ubuntu-offtopic for other stuff.
[00:51] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: hmmm... you should have said!
[00:51] <Guest36056> buckie, aye, no baw
[00:52] <RAdams> askvictor: installing the proprietary driver fixed it.
[00:52] <mcquaid> damnit, never noticed that. i don't see a pb process spawn in linux when launching a pb enabled game
[00:52] <askvictor> RAdams: hurrah
[00:52] <RAdams> askvictor: I saw mic boost somewhere, let me go look...
[00:52] <redvamp128> !ash | russia213:
[00:52] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: I configured it that way too to collect syslog messages from the router
[00:52] <redvamp128> !ask | russia213
[00:52] <askvictor> RAdams: It's strange it's in the playback section only
[00:52] <seastron> URGHHH! why so complicated !
[00:52] <seastron> ?
[00:53] <dwarder> wow
[00:53] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: That's exactly what I need.
[00:53] <dwarder> 1335 users
[00:53] <seastron> 2 to go
[00:53] <soreau> seastron: What's so complicated
[00:53] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: Unfortunately, SYSLOGD="-r" seems to have no effect for me.
[00:53] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: give me a moment to try to remember what I changed to do it :)
[00:53] <russia213> Grub error 21 while my external hard drive is plugged in, help?
[00:53] <seastron> Hello again everyone(you can't blame a man for trying), may i request help on installing my edimax 7318USg wifi usb, i have the disc, it has a linux driver but i can't seem to make the package manager play ball, how do i move the files for the linux driver located on the cd to package manager, please private message me (or not if you would prefer) if you are willing to help a new windows escapee
[00:53] <seastron> that
[00:53] <linguini> I edited /etc/init.d/sysklogd
[00:54] <dwarder> i want to ask if ubuntu desctop got resize capability on install?
[00:54] <RAdams> askvictor: preferences, mic boost is in the list. it puts it on an options tab next to the playback tab, that option does apply to recording
[00:54] <seastron> turns out the driver files need god knows what doing
[00:54] <seastron> and i dont understand any of it
[00:54] <dwarder> i want to dualboot with wincp
[00:54] <dwarder> winxp
[00:54] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini:  /etc/default/syslogd
[00:54] <seastron> i only bought this thing because it said linux compatible
[00:54] <dwarder> and i want to resize winXP partition
[00:54] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: SYSLOGD="-r"
[00:54] <dwarder> can i do that with installation cd?
[00:55] <linguini> wtf?!
[00:55] <bogski> good morning...
[00:55] <bogski> :)
[00:55] <dwarder> like mandriva for example
[00:55] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: and the output of ps -ef | grep syslogd: "syslog    9046     1  0 Feb05 ?        00:00:00 /sbin/syslogd -r -u syslog"
[00:55] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: Why is there another syslogd?  :-(
[00:55] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: All 'default' settings are installed to /etc/default/
[00:55] <JEEBcz> dwarder, IIRC resizing NTFS should be ok with Ubuntu's install media as long as you have continuous free space available
[00:55] <CShadowRun> Hi i just made a fresh install of ubuntu intrepid and did the updates/restricted driver install, and X won't start
[00:56] <CShadowRun> it worked before, i was just reloading to clean stuff up
[00:56] <RAdams> dwarder: backup first
[00:56] <redvamp128> russia213:  did you install ubuntu to that drive and put grub there?
[00:56] <dwarder> JEEBcz: RAdams: thank you
[00:56] <redvamp128> russia213:  I did find this possibly help you-- Grub Error 21 after full install to USB hard drive | USB Pen Drive Linux <http://www.pendrivelinux.com/grub-error-21-after-full-install-to-usb-hard-drive/>
[00:56] <NuUbuntu> Hi, having trouble trying to install Ubuntu on Acer Aspire 5515. No WiFi, and some issues with build essentials and E:\ drive (e:\ being cdr/dvdr). Anyone know where I can find a decent forum for these issues?
[00:57] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: A little hint here... whenever tracking down daemon config files, read the shell start/stop script in /etc/init.d/ first - usually that defines which config files are used and in what order
[00:57] <bogski> has anyone here using security certificate from M$? can this also be install in Ubuntu 8.10?
[00:57] <redvamp128> russia213:  also forginve the tittle also says how to fix the issue -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:57] <russia213> redvamp128: I installed Ubuntu to the external and was told to install grub on my C drive, then I was told by comeone else to install it on my external
[00:58] <aseeon> could someone help me with my RAM problem ? (i have 4gb ram install, but system shows me only 2.44)
[00:58] <NuUbuntu> Ive heard of the ram issue before, somewhere on google. You should google it
[00:58] <aseeon> dmidecode shows everything correctly but /proc/meminfo does not
[00:58] <Bllasae> what does "[ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo "You live" " do ?
[00:58] <^hashbang^> aseeon: you need to be running a 64bit version to see all 4G
[00:58] <CShadowRun> aseeon, in order to see 4GB of RAM you need a 64bit operating system
[00:59] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: I read /etc/init.d/sysklogd .  It says:
[00:59] <redvamp128> russia213:  Also on that page there is a command to find out which drive grub is installed on-- though you can try the fix or repair grub and it should work on the page where it says fix after windows install.
[00:59] <aseeon> but 32bit still should show 3.6GB
[00:59] <redvamp128> !grub | russia213:
[00:59] <linguini> #   For remote UDP logging use SYSLOGD="-r"
[00:59] <linguini> SYSLOGD="-u syslog"
[00:59] <CShadowRun> aseeon, no, the address space is also used for other devices, pci stuff etc
[00:59] <Baatti> I'm trying to use Remote Desktop Viewer between my two home PCs, one is a desktop, the other is my laptop. Both are behind the same router, one wirelessly. I've been following directions on the forums and such, but I can't seem to detect either PC, any suggestions?
[00:59] <^hashbang^> aseeon: 32bit will 2G sometimes up to 3G
[00:59] <CShadowRun> aseeon,  so it's hit and miss as to how much of the 4GB it will actually see
[00:59] <bogski> is it possible to install security certificate in Ubuntu 8.10?
[01:00] <CShadowRun> aseeon, why not use 64bit ubuntu? it's perfectly fine. I use it myself
[01:00] <stroyan> aseeon: Graphics cards sometimes tie up a lot of 32-bit address space, limiting visible RAM.
[01:00] <IntuitiveNipple> aseeon: That will be correct... the space from 3GB-4GB is used for PCI IOMEM addresses
[01:00] <^hashbang^> CShadowRun: do you have flash working?
[01:00] <CShadowRun> ^hashbang^,  yup
[01:00] <adi1> hi all
[01:00] <aseeon> when i used ubuntu livecd (32bit) it showed me 3.6gb
[01:00] <solexious> Hello, I want to open a html page full screen from the commandline with out needing to use a mouse at all. Any ideas how?
[01:00] <^hashbang^> CShadowRun: darnit... I should have installed 64 then =(
[01:00] <adi1> can anyone help to mount a ntfs partition in hardy?
[01:00] <aseeon> and now i am on Crunchbang
[01:00] <CShadowRun> aseeon,  that's because the graphics drivers where not installed
[01:01] <CShadowRun> (i think)
[01:01] <aseeon> but my graphic card is only 256mb
[01:01] <^hashbang^> !ntfs | adil
[01:01] <NuUbuntu> Does anyone know anything about how to fix the Atheros 5007eg driver issues in Ubuntu 8.10 installed on Acer Aspire 5515?
[01:01] <CShadowRun> aseeon, and drivers for varioius other devices you have in the computer
[01:01] <adi1> i have them installed all
[01:01] <TheDrunka> Hello everyone
[01:01] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: Yes, which is what I have and which works. The key line in /etc/init.d/sysklogd is this one: "test ! -r /etc/default/syslogd || . /etc/default/syslogd" - that is including the config file if it exists
[01:01] <askvictor> solexious: if you want to use firefox, you need an extension - hold on
[01:01] <adi1> but no way i cna mount my ntfs part
[01:01] <Baatti> NuUbuntu, yeah, try the ath5k, its a good fix, I'll link you
[01:01] <blkdg> hi, i have a compwiz question, i can alt tab to see multiple windows, and i can wiggle a window , how do i get the cube?
[01:01] <blkdg> or any other effects?
[01:01] <TheDrunka> I'm trying to set up rc.local.. but it says it's missing LSB style headers, any help?
[01:01] <^hashbang^> adil: ok how are you trying to mount the ntfs part?
[01:02] <aseeon> yeah i know the theory CShadowRun but even when i checked it, it does not add up
[01:02] <blkdg> i am using the latest live cd.
[01:02] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: When I said 'read the file' I meant, read what the code actually does, as opposed to reading documentation which may be incorrect
[01:02] <stroyan> aseeon: The mapping for graphics cards can be extraordinarily wasteful.  They may use much more that actual framebuffer size.
[01:02] <VoodooDance> Howdy all
[01:02] <VoodooDance> Question for you
[01:02] <solexious> askvictor, thank you
[01:02] <CShadowRun> aseeon, still, you should be using 64bit, this problem will go away when you use 64bit
[01:02] <redvamp128> blkdg:   about middle of the page there is a guide Forlong's Blog - I'm trying to comprehend the things I write <http://forlong.blogage.de/en>
[01:02] <CShadowRun> and you'll be able to address all of your 4gb ram!
[01:02] <CShadowRun> i know, i had the exact same problem myself
[01:02] <aseeon> i would be there is no 64bit Crunchband distro :'-(
[01:02] <Baatti> NuUbuntu, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k there is some more information available on the forums, I'll link that next
[01:02] <askvictor> solexious: ﻿﻿http://www.krickelkrackel.de/autohide/
[01:02] <aseeon> Crunchban*
[01:02] <ubuntu1981> Is there any one have a lot of experiance in install Printer?
[01:02] <aseeon> bang*
[01:03] <redvamp128> blkdg:   How to set up Compiz Fusion 0.7.4 (included in Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron)  <http://forlong.blogage.de/en/entries/2008/4/26/-How-to-set-up-Compiz-Fusion-074-included-in-Ubuntu-804-Hardy-Heron>
[01:03] <VoodooDance> I upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid and the only issue I have is that the window control icons are gone... meaning the buttons to minimize, maximize and close aer missing... so there are little black holes where the buttons go.. any ideas?
[01:03] <aseeon> damn that keyboard
[01:03] <CShadowRun> aseeon, complain :p
[01:03] <^hashbang^> aseeon: did the crunchbang guys tell you to come here?
[01:03] <aseeon> nah
[01:03] <aseeon> but its still ubuntu based
[01:03] <axlrose> how can I tell what version of GTK I have....is it the libgtk pacakge I'm looking for?
[01:03] <aseeon> so i figured i could try
[01:03] <CShadowRun> axlrose, system > about gnome
[01:03] <NuUbuntu> Does anyone know anything about how to fix the Atheros 5007eg driver issues in Ubuntu 8.10 installed on Acer Aspire 5515?
[01:03] <solexious> askvictor, thanks :)
[01:04] <ubuntu1981> /q
[01:04] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: mf!  I see the sourcing of other scripts now.  Arg!!!
[01:04] <^hashbang^> aseeon: yes but you need to understand the difference between 32 and 64 bit OS's. Crunchbang and ubuntu are different... just like ubuntu is based off of debain..
[01:04] <gpled> i hooked up anther sata drive. is their a way to "see it"?
[01:04] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: :D
[01:04] <aseeon> NuUbuntu - 32bit or 64 bit ?
[01:04] <axlrose> CshadowRun:  Where does that tell me what version of GTK I have
[01:05] <CShadowRun> axlrose, in the bottom left, where it says "Version"
[01:05] <solexious> askvictor, know what commandline I can use to open the page?
[01:05] <seacnboy> hello, i want to know how to get hotmail in linux?
[01:05] <glen_> Hello
[01:05] <glen_> :P
[01:05] <glen_> umm
[01:05] <glen_> go to www.hotmail.com?
[01:05] <CShadowRun> seacnboy, same way you did in windows
[01:05] <^hashbang^> seacnboy: use firefox and go to hotmail.com
[01:05] <axlrose> CShadowRun:  Thats the version of Gnome I have not GTK
[01:05] <CShadowRun> axlrose, oh, sorry
[01:05] <gpled> seacnboy: with firefox?
[01:05] <ubuntu1981> yes
[01:05] <glen_> Umm, When I try to run Sudo, it says "must be setuid root"
[01:06] <glen_> What's wrong with it/
[01:06] <spsneo>  whenever I try to connect to my ubuntu desktop from any windows machine.. using some ssh client.. I am able to connect the command line but not the file browser
[01:06] <spsneo> any solution ^^
[01:06] <^hashbang^> axlrose: use synaptic
[01:06] <gpled> glen_: you do sudo with a command. thats the do part
[01:06] <^hashbang^> axlrose: to find out the gtk version..
[01:06] <gpled> glen_: sudo ls
[01:06] <glen_> gpled: wait, sudo ls?
[01:06] <glen_> is that a command>
[01:06] <^hashbang^> lol
[01:06] <gpled> glen_: man ls
  but what package am I looking for???  LibGTK?
[01:07] <glen_> gpled: Ok, your confusing me
[01:07] <WebcamWonder> !sudo | glen_
[01:07] <glen_> lol
[01:07] <glen_> no bot
[01:07] <^hashbang^> axlrose: in the search box type gtk, it will look for all gtk... anything check marked is installed
[01:07] <solexious> askvictor, scrub that, will just set the page as the homepage :)
[01:07] <blizzle> I've got a little conundrum here. Since updating a box to jaunty, it seems ports are now locked down outside of the local lan.. ssh was visible before over hamachi, for example, but now it's not. Any ideas? I'm accessing the box over VNC, so I can't use say gufw to configure. I've removed ufw.
[01:07] <solexious> askvictor, thans for your help
[01:07] <Imaginativeone_> how do I install ubuntu over an existing partition?
[01:07] <glen_> So wait, sudo says that, what do i type?
[01:07] <solexious> askvictor, thanks*
[01:07] <gpled> glen_: su means go super user.  do means, well do.  so sudo means, do this command as super user.  aka root user
[01:07] <Imaginativeone_> I want to KEEP the partition
[01:08] <blkdg> redvamp128: are all the things listed in the blog on the dvd?
[01:08] <axlrose> ^hashbang^:  Well the thing is I need to know exactly what version of GTK I have... I can't find a package called GTK..the closest thing is libGTK
[01:08] <glen_> wait, so what is the command?
[01:08] <gpled> glen_: what are you trying to do?
[01:08] <^hashbang^> axelrose: try something like: dpkg -l libgtk[0-9]* | grep ^i
[01:09] <glen_> gpled: Well, I strongly dislike the way root owns several things that I should as the sysadmin. So I'm trying to own everything basicaly.
[01:09] <redvamp128> blkdg:  it explains what and how to setup compiz to run the cube
[01:09] <adaptr> glen_: such as ?
[01:09] <^hashbang^> axelrose: or: pkg-config --modversion gtk+
[01:09] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: $ ps -ef | grep syslog
[01:09] <linguini> root     31154     1  0 17:07 ?        00:00:00 /sbin/syslogd -r
[01:09] <linguini>  
[01:09] <linguini> Finally!
[01:09] <FloodBot1> linguini: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <^hashbang^> axelrose: or: -config --modversion gtk+-2.0
[01:09] <VoodooDance> Has anyone had trouble with window control icons on Intrepid?
[01:09] <glen_> adaptr: Like, webmin, that I just downloaded.
[01:09] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: happy now? what a detour via upstart, eh?
[01:09] <^hashbang^> axelrose: or: -config --modversion gtk+-2.0
[01:09] <^hashbang^> axelrose: or:pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
[01:09] <redvamp128> blkdg:  I would run the compiz check first to make sure it is setup correctly...
[01:09] <adaptr> glen_: webmin must do things that only root has access to
[01:09] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: and may a pox be on whomever wrote that SYSLOGD='-u syslogd' as if it had some impact!
[01:09] <amen> нихрена фпс:10600 О_о
[01:10] <Pici> !ru | amen
[01:10] <glen_> adaptr: Ok, here's another example. The VMWare tools install script. I need access to that.
[01:10] <gpled> glen_: ubuntu has no root user, so if you want to do something as root, you use sudo .  nice side, is no one can hack your root account. there is none
[01:10] <amen> Pici: поторопился )
[01:10] <Pici> !nickspam > FlareFlare
[01:10] <dwarder> KUBUNTU == UBUNTU?
[01:10] <adaptr> glen_: also a system service, needs to be installed by root
[01:10] <dwarder> sorry for caps
[01:10] <glen_> gpled: I'd have to  disagree with that. User manager says there's a root.
[01:10] <Pici> dwarder: Kubuntu = Ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME
[01:10] <^hashbang^> gpled: there is a root account.. if you sudo su - you will be root..
[01:11] <adaptr> sudo -i
[01:11] <dwarder> Pici: thanks
[01:11] <adaptr> shorter
[01:11] <axlrose> ^hashbang^:  right but what I'm asking is will libGTK tell me what version of GTK as awhole I have
[01:11] <^hashbang^> gpled: the root account doesn't have a password assigned
[01:11] <glen_> It still says that error
[01:11] <Pici> glen_: by default the root account in Ubuntu is locked. Please use sudo to access the functions that you normally would login to root to use.
[01:11] <amen> Pici: sorry ).other lang
[01:11] <gpled> glen_: it is good that they did it that way.  it protects the system from people who do not understand how to use root
[01:11] <^hashbang^> axlrose: I just gave you the answer...
[01:11] <glen_> Ok guys, were getting off topic
[01:11] <stroyan> glen_: I bet you changed the owner of /usr/bin/sudo.  Sudo must be owned by root and setuid to be able to do its job.  You will probably need to run a live CD to become root and fix the permissions of sudo.
[01:11] <^hashbang^> axlrose: check out http://stackoverflow.com/questions/126141/how-do-you-find-out-which-version-of-the-gtk-ubuntu-is-using
[01:12] <glen_> stroyan: Wait, I have to reinstall?
[01:12] <IntuitiveNipple> gpled: no, you're wrong. There *is* a root user, the account just doesn't have a password set so no-one can log-in as root
[01:12] <^hashbang^> !google
[01:12] <gpled> glen_: sounds like you would be logged into irc with root, if you had a root user
[01:12] <nkei0> Anyone want to assist me?  I've apparently screwed up installing the newest set of ati proprietary drivers...  The only way I can get to the GUI desktop (X) is by "sudo modprobe radeon" and then "startx" from the ttyl command line
[01:12] <Kidfork> What is the Default Password for the "su"
[01:12] <Pici> !root | Kidfork
[01:12] <glen_> gpled: Huh? The system updater doesn't even work.
[01:13] <cobb28> im going to be installing ubuntu 8.04 via flash drive on a dell mini9...should the usb device be formatted fat32 or does it not matter?
[01:13] <stroyan> glen_: If you boot from a live CD you could be root and fix the permissions of /usr/bin/sudo on your hard disk.  But there is a strong chance you messed up other important files.
[01:13] <gpled> glen_: how are you trying to run it?
[01:13] <glen_> gpled: What, IRC? This is chatzilla.
[01:13] <mun> hi
[01:13] <benjamin2> Hi I have a question.  How do I go about installing Ubuntu Server on an external hard drive connceted via Firewire to a Vista 64 machine?
[01:13] <lstarnes> glen_: chatzilla is an IRC client
[01:13] <blizzle> glen_,  chatzilla is an IRC client.
[01:14] <^hashbang^> lol
[01:14] <blizzle> Spooky echo!
[01:14] <gpled> glen_: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16
[01:14] <glen_> I understand,but im unsure of what he meant by "how are you trying to run it"
[01:14] <^hashbang^> lstarnes: blizzle: jinks
[01:14] <Pici> glen_: You spoke of changing ownership of some files, it sounds like you changed the owner of sudo or the sudoers file.
[01:14] <mun> i have 8gb of ram on my machine, but when i run top it shows that i only got about 1gb free and 7gb used up. however, the RES column only adds up to around 2gb -- where did the other 5 go?
[01:14] <glen_> pici: Ok, so say I don't have the live cd and nothing much to loose, should I just reinstall it?
[01:14] <^hashbang^> mun: you need to run 64 ubuntu to see all 8G
[01:14] <VoodooDance> http://www.imagebin.org/37654
[01:15] <gpled> glen_: man sudo
[01:15] <CorbinFox> are there any easy to use data recovery programs for ubuntu?  I need to get music, pictures, and text off of an external harddrive that was deleted from inside windows vista
[01:15] <IntuitiveNipple> mun: buffers and cache
[01:15] <yoyoned> mun: run the free command it will show what is being used as cache
[01:15] <askvictor> I can't get recording to work on intel HDA audio - I can hear what I say in the mic back through the speakers, but it only records acceptable levels when there is too much feedback to be useful.
[01:15] <stroyan> glen_: "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo" would confirm the immediate problem.  It _should_ be "-rwsr-xr-x 2 root root".
[01:15] <axlrose> ^hashbang^:  So If I have libgtk2.8.20  does that mean thats the version of GTK I have
[01:15] <linguini> IntuitiveNipple: And now I see, "process `syslogd' is using obsolete setsockopt".  lovely.
[01:15] <Pici> glen_: Unfortunately that probably is the best course of action.
[01:15] <IntuitiveNipple> linguini: file a bug report then :)
[01:15] <glen_> Ok, thank you guys all.
[01:16] <VoodooDance> Anyone?  How do I fix this http://imagebin.org/37654
[01:16] <gpled> VoodooDance: is that the correct url?
[01:16] <^hashbang^> VoodDooDance: Fix what? all I see is you have typed google into the firefox search box?
[01:16] <mun> ^hashbang^: i'm already running ubuntu64
[01:17] <gpled> ^hashbang^: lol
[01:17] <VoodooDance> NO.. the color of the window control buttons are gone
[01:17] <^hashbang^> mun: lol yea sorry I saw that after
[01:17] <gpled> ^hashbang^: cool nic
[01:17] <benjamin2> Hi I have a question.  How do I go about installing Ubuntu Server on an external hard drive connceted via Firewire to a Vista 64 machine?
[01:17] <^hashbang^> gpled: ty
[01:17] <^hashbang^> VoodooDance: do the buttons work? if so, it could be a flaky theme
[01:17] <VoodooDance> ^hashbang^, so I cant see which button is whick.
[01:17] <norsyahdian> Hello
[01:18] <VoodooDance> ^hashbang^, yes the buttons still work fine.
[01:18] <santovabril> hola
[01:18] <^hashbang^> VoodooDance: try switching themes
[01:18] <VoodooDance> ^hashbang^, I'll try changing the theme.
[01:18] <^hashbang^> VoodooDance: then switch back..
[01:18] <nkei0> Anyone want to assist me?  I've apparently screwed up installing the newest set of ati proprietary drivers...  The only way I can get to the GUI desktop (X) is by "sudo modprobe radeon" and then "startx" from the ttyl command line
[01:19] <^hashbang^> !ati |neki0
[01:19] <Stustoph> hey
[01:19] <Eber> does anyone here have ever used crucnhbang as guest with virtualbox?!?!?
[01:19] <gpled> nkei0: i feel your pain.  you running 64 bit?
[01:19] <CorbinFox> are there any easy to use data recovery programs for ubuntu?  I need to get music, pictures, and text off of an external harddrive that was deleted from inside windows vista
[01:19] <^hashbang^> Eber: why do that if I have a powerful enough system to run ubuntu
[01:19] <nkei0> gpled: Nope, 32.
[01:19] <adaptr> CorbinFox: deleted is deleted
[01:19] <_VIM_> !recovery
[01:19] <Eber> ^hashbang^: i don't know... i just akesd if someone have ever used it...
[01:20] <blizzle> CorbinFox,  Your beset bet is to use a Windows recovery tool.
[01:20] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: I've followed the ati provided instructions and the ones from that webpage don't work because for some reason I can't unlock my Xauthority file.
[01:20] <russia213> Grub error 21 while my external hard drive is plugged in, help? Please don't give me link to tuorials, they do not work, I need real help
[01:20] <Pici> !undelete | CorbinFox
[01:20] <CorbinFox> isn't deleted just a fancy way of saying "this space available"?
[01:20] <^hashbang^> nkei0: if you can manaually start X then use the link provided above to install the ati drivers
[01:20] <gpled> nkei0: im not using ati drivers anymore because it broke on my system.  i was running 4 monitors
[01:20] <nabz> Hey, when using the file browser, i get a Permission Denied error when trying to remove somthing in /opt/htdocs
[01:20] <Stustoph> hi anyone know where I can get drivers for belkin wireless usb network adaptor??? I'm about to install the latest Ubuntu
[01:20] <CorbinFox> and its a fat32 drive
[01:20] <nkei0> gpled: How do I revert back?
[01:20] <blizzle> Stustoph,  use ndiswrapper
[01:20] <^hashbang^> nabz: who owns the files in /opt/htdocs?
[01:20] <Kidfork> How do i stop the xserver
[01:20] <Stustoph> ok just google it brb
[01:20] <Stustoph> thanks
[01:21] <prince_jammys> nabz: your user isn't allowed to write(which includes deleting) the file
[01:21] <nabz> not sure, i just installed xamp so yeah :/
[01:21] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: I can't seem to install it that way, because I can't unlock my Xauthority though.
[01:21] <nabz> i'm the only use on the machine
[01:21] <yoyoned> Kidfork: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/stop
[01:21] <Muelli> Kidfork: why would you want to do that? If you really need it, you can do a /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:21] <^hashbang^> nkei0: huh? if you run startx you shouldn't be prompted to logon...
[01:21] <prince_jammys> nabz: doesn't matter. most files outside of your home directory don't belong to your user
[01:21] <gpled> nkei0: im not sure. i was lucky, cause i just did a fresh install, so i got lazy and reinstalled.  i think their is a way to reinstall gnome desktop, and get things back, but i do not know the command
[01:22] <nabz> so how can i modify them or make those files belong to me?
[01:22] <VoodooDance> lol.. Ok I'm a tard... how do you switch themes in Ubuntu
[01:22] <Pici> !changethemes | VoodooDance
[01:22] <^hashbang^> gpled: it's not gnome it's his driver for his graphics card..
[01:22] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: I've already logged in to the ttyl command line when I login.  So yes, actually it does.
[01:22] <gpled> nkei0: check, you /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:22] <prince_jammys> nabz: usually, you don't. you just perform those special tasks as administrator
[01:22] <gpled> nkei0: i think their might be a comment line in there
[01:22] <nabz> :/
[01:22] <benjamin2> Hi I have a question.  How do I go about installing Ubuntu Server on an external hard drive connceted via Firewire to a Vista 64 machine?
[01:22] <nabz> so i should install xampp in another directory?
[01:22] <^hashbang^> nkei0: if you can start "X" from the shell you have logged into does gnome start?
[01:22] <nkei0> gpled: Yeah, that doesn't do anything for me :(  I had to dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get as far as i have
[01:23] <Pici> nabz: No. You should use the LAMP server from the repositories rather than a 3rd party product.
[01:23] <Pici> !lamp | nabz
[01:23] <tuxedocurly> Hey guys! Im back again! How can i make an ubuntu media server that i can store photos, music, and videos in that other computers (winows XP to be specific) can access? Any info on what programs i need to download or step by step walk-through would be helpful, thanks!
[01:23] <gpled> ^hashbang^: yah, im not sure how to tell the system to quit using it, once you have no video
[01:23] <prince_jammys> nabz: no. if you need to delete something there, do it as administrator. you can do 'gksudo nautilus' to open a file browser as admin
[01:23] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: Yes.  However, I am very limited as to what I can do because my Xauthority is locked.
[01:23] <nabz> okay, thanks :)
[01:23] <yoyoned> !samba
[01:23] <russia213> Grub error 21 while my external hard drive is plugged in, help? Please don't give me link to tuorials, they do not work, I need real help
[01:23] <^hashbang^> nkei0: look in /tmp and remove all .X files... also look in ~/ for any .X files and remove those as well
[01:23] <VoodooDance> Perfect... all is well.. ty everyone
[01:24] <blkdg> i have ubuntu 8.10, why do i have to install extra libs to play mp3s??
[01:24] <gpled> ^hashbang^: is that where the calls to ati drivers are at?
[01:24] <^hashbang^> VoodooDance: woot! congratz
[01:24] <yoyoned> !mp3
[01:24] <savvas> benjamin2: you download the install cd for ubuntu server, burn it and boot using the cd, an installer in text mode will be shown to install ubuntu, you can choose you hard drive from there
[01:24] <^hashbang^> gpled: has nothing to do with drivers...
[01:24] <tuxedocurly> Hey guys! Im back again! How can i make an ubuntu media server that i can store photos, music, and videos in that other computers (winows XP to be specific) can access? Any info on what programs i need to download or step by step walk-through would be helpful, thanks!
[01:24] <Pici> blkdg: Because mp3 decoders are not free to distribute
[01:24] <^hashbang^> !flood | tuxedocurly
[01:24] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: Which exactly is ~/?
[01:24] <savvas> benjamin2: if you're not sure, I would suggest playing with virtualbox virtual machine: www.virtualbox.org
[01:25] <^hashbang^> nekei0: ~/ is your home directory
[01:25] <yoyoned> !samba>tuxedocurly
[01:25] <gpled> nkei0: your home
[01:25] <benjamin2> savvas:  Can I get the server to run  while I use windows?
[01:25] <^hashbang^> neki0: like cd ~
[01:25] <gpled> woops, sorry
[01:25] <tuxedocurly> samba? thanks
[01:25] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: Okay, there were no x files there
[01:25] <savvas> benjamin2: that would be a virtual machine :) use virtualbox
[01:25] <yoyoned> benjamin2: no, if you wnat them bith running, use virtualbox
[01:25] <^hashbang^> neki0: how about in /tmp
[01:25] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: None there either.
[01:26] <^hashbang^> neki0: ok so what happens when you run startx
[01:26] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[01:26] <sebsebseb> !ndiswrapper
[01:26] <benjamin2> savvas:  Do I download virtualbox on windows side or vista?
[01:26] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: You want me to run it again?
[01:26] <yoyoned> benjamin2: vista
[01:26] <gpled> nkei0: do you get the option to run in low graphics mode?
[01:26] <Flare183> !botabuse | sebsebseb
[01:26] <blkdg> what about mpg123 or 123mpg? pici?
[01:26] <ldiamond> I need a calculator that can calculate stuffs like 13^11 mod 17
[01:26] <nkei0> gpled:  No.
[01:26] <^hashbang^> neki0: just type "startx'
[01:26] <blkdg> slack comes with mp3 decoders..
[01:26] <^hashbang^> neki0: startx I mean
[01:27] <gpled> nkei0: so your getting no X at all?
[01:27] <^hashbang^> neki0: lol
[01:27] <savvas> benjamin2: do you have a 64-bit windows? download and install this in windows: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/2.1.2/VirtualBox-2.1.2-41885-Win_amd64.msi
[01:27] <yoyoned> ldiamond: what typ of notation is taht
[01:27] <benjamin2> yoyoned:  I have ubuntu 64 server, on a flash, how do I install from that?
[01:27] <savvas> benjamin2: the manual is here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/2.1.2/UserManual.pdf
[01:27] <^hashbang^> neki0: you could also try Xorg -configure to get a default Xorg config
[01:27] <russia213> Grub error 21 while my external hard drive is plugged in, help? Please don't give me link to tutorials, they do not work, I need real help
[01:27] <protocol1> is there a command to install gnome on xubuntu 8.10?
[01:28] <ldiamond> yoyoned, its 13^11 modulus 17
[01:28] <savvas> benjamin2: for more information, you should ask your questions in #vbox
[01:28] <ldiamond> yoyoned, its 13^11 modulo 17
[01:28] <yoyoned> benjamin2: install virtualbox, then setup a virtual machine to boot from the usb drive
[01:28] <blkdg> Do i have to buy mp3 support?
[01:28] <gpled> ^hashbang^: now that i think about it.  doesn't /etc/X11/xorg.conf call ati driver?
[01:29] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: I've already done that, when I did that and typed startx, it worked.  Now i'm up and running GUI, but I have no Xauthority and therefore can't update, use firefox worth a crap (no address in the bar, no back/fwd/etc), no synaptic, and other crap like that.
[01:29] <yoyoned> blkdg: no
[01:29] <^hashbang^> gpled: Xorg and the Kernel have drivers. the kernel has drivers for the hardware,, and Xorg for the application layer..
[01:29] <ubuntu1981> How to install Conon printer?
[01:29] <savvas> !mpe | blkdg
[01:29] <redvamp128> yes protocol -- look in synaptic for ubuntu-desktop  (or you can if I have the command right) sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:29] <blkdg> what do i install yoyoned ?
[01:29] <^hashbang^> !mp3
[01:29] <savvas> !mp3 | blkdg
[01:29] <Pici> blkdg: Its still not a free format. Follow the instructions from ubottu or just install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package if you don't mind grabbing some other stuff as well.
[01:29] <blkdg> ok
[01:30] <nunka> hola
[01:30] <gpled> ^hashbang^: so if he takes calls out of xorg.conf for ati, he should get kernel drivers?
[01:30] <redvamp128> protocol1:  then you just log out and select the session.
[01:30] <nunka> where can i go to get some help with  wine?
[01:30] <commodore256> this chatroom is more popular than #chris
[01:30] <mun> yoyoned: when i run free, it says Mem: used 7gb free 1gb, buffers/cache: used 2.5gb free 5.5gb
[01:30] <redvamp128> nunka:  try room #winehq
[01:30] <^hashbang^> gpled: no. Xorg will defaut to vesa drivers which work on almost all cards
[01:30] <nunka> thank  you :D
[01:30] <mun> yoyoned: so do i have 5.5gb free?
[01:31] <gpled> nunka: what program are you trying to run?
[01:31] <fuzzy> hi
[01:31] <ubuntu1981> I think 5.5 Gb is enougt
[01:32] <ubuntu1981> Hi
[01:32] <cambazz> hello. how do i check if cron is installed in my ubuntu server?
[01:32] <fuzzy> can someone help me set up my screen resolution?
[01:32] <blkdg> ok, but how do i install mp3 support?
[01:32] <cambazz> crontab -e does not work
[01:32] <jrib> cambazz: what happens when you try exactly?
[01:32] <fuzzy> i only got 800x600 or smaller
[01:32] <savvas> blkdg: did you read the links ubottu gave you?
[01:32] <gpled> i hooked up an extra sata drive. if it is working, should i see it when i sudo fdisk -l ?
[01:32] <jrib> blkdg: double click on an mp3...
[01:32] <cambazz> jrib: it says command not found
[01:32] <^hashbang^> fuzzy: what type of video card are you using
[01:33] <jrib> cambazz: umm, are you sure the install completed successfully?
[01:33] <^hashbang^> cambazz: try sudo apt-get install cron or crond
[01:33] <cambazz> well yes
[01:33] <nkei0> !ati
[01:33] <savvas> blkdg: specifically: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Ubuntu%207.10,%208.04,%20and%208.10
[01:33] <benjamin2> Help...i zoomed myself in and I can't get out!!
[01:33] <jrib> cambazz: cron should be installed.  Something is wrong.  What does « apt-cache policy cron » return?
[01:33] <fuzzy> well thats a problem, i have a toshiba s1800-214 but i dont know what videocard is in it, its intergrated in the mobo
[01:33] <savvas> benjamin2: in where?
[01:34] <^hashbang^> fuzzy: look online for your laptop specs...
[01:34] <fuzzy> i tried, but couldnt find it, its really old
[01:34] <kop> fuzzy, lspci
[01:34] <^hashbang^> fuzzy: use lspci
[01:34] <mun> when i run free, it says Mem: used 7gb free 1gb, buffers/cache: used 2.5gb free 5.5gb. does that mean i have 5.5gb free?
[01:35] <fuzzy> uhm ok
[01:35] <dwarder> why i can't find md5 file on ftp? is that ok?
[01:35] <benjamin2> savvas:  on the screen, specifically on my mouse
[01:35] <jrib> mun: -buffers/cache, yes
[01:35] <^hashbang^> mun: yes
[01:35] <dwarder> how can i check for integrity
[01:35] <dwarder> then
[01:35] <mun> jrib: does that mean i can load 5.5gb of processes?
[01:36] <dwarder> nm
[01:36] <jrib> mun: I don't know what that means
[01:36] <dwarder> found
[01:36] <russia213> Grub error 21 while my external hard drive is plugged in, help? Please don't give me link to tutorials, they do not work, I need real help
[01:36] <jove> HI all, I added ATI driver that screwed up my display desktop, how should i fix or remove it
[01:36] <^hashbang^> mun: what are you trying to do?
[01:36] <dwarder> located at MD5SUMS
[01:36] <mun> jrib: can my processes use up 5gb of ram?
[01:36] <blkdg> thanks
[01:36] <kop> dwarder, leave your wallet on a 7-11 counter
[01:36] <jrib> mun: sure
[01:36] <fuzzy> how do i run lspci? it couldnt find the package with apt-get install
[01:36] <mun> ^hashbang^: i have a large java program to run on my machine, but top shows that i only got about 1gb free
[01:36] <^hashbang^> mun: you have more than enough memory to play games, run a website, fileserver, etc all at the same time as using it as your desktop
[01:36] <fuzzy> and i dont seem to have it on the puter now
[01:37] <jrib> fuzzy: did you try just running it?
[01:37] <mun> ^hashbang^: so i'm worry that it'll be swapped out
[01:37] <fuzzy> ya
[01:37] <jrib> fuzzy: are you using ubuntu?
[01:37] <mun> ^hashbang^: i expect the program to eat about 4gb of mem
[01:37] <^hashbang^> mun: how much swap do you have? it SHOULD be x2 the amount of ram..
[01:37] <kop> fuzzy, at the command line in terminal type   lspci
[01:37] <fuzzy> well crunchbang
[01:37] <fuzzy> but its pretty much ubuntu
[01:37] <jrib> !crunchbang | fuzzy
[01:37] <jove> does anyone know how to reset the display of desktop back to default ?
[01:37] <^hashbang^> fuzzy: you could also try xbuntu.. =)
[01:37] <dwarder> kop: what?
[01:37] <^hashbang^> jrib: lol
[01:38] <jrib> fuzzy: anyway, crunchbang isn't supported here.  This is for ubuntu support
[01:38] <nkei0> ^hashbang^:  Alright, I'll try going at it like this.  Based off the binaryhowto from the ubuntuforum !ati refers me to...  I can run the first command, but when i try to "sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko" I get an error about No such file or directory.  What should I be doing?
[01:38] <kop> dwarder, check for integrity ?
[01:38] <fuzzy> ....
[01:38] <jrib> fuzzy: try #crunchbang
[01:39] <fuzzy> im in it
[01:39] <Chaorain> I am currently dual booting between Mythbuntu and Ubuntu Ultamite edition would it be better to install MythTV on Ubuntu Ultamite edition instead?
[01:39] <bdelin88> hey, i have a permissions problem with the www-data group (var/www on a ubuntu server) I added my username to the group, gave it 775 permissions (the whole www folder -R and everything) and it works great if folders are set up, and i can create folders with filezilla, however, when I try dropping folders from the source into destination it will not create new directories, "Permission denied" what's the deal?
[01:39] <^hashbang^> neki0: cd to that directory... to make sure that the driver is even installed is so... then a simple modprobe "driver" is all that's needed
[01:39] <benjamin2> savvas:  How do I get out of this??
[01:39] <russia213> Grub error 21 while my external hard drive is plugged in, help? Please don't give me link to tutorials, they do not work, I need real help
[01:39] <mun> ^hashbang^: i got about 10gb of swap. but i dun want it to be swapped because of performance issues
[01:39] <bdelin88> anyone know of this problem?
[01:40] <dwarder> kop: did't get what you mean, about integrity i have found MD5SUMS file ...
[01:40] <^hashbang^> mun: it won't be. have you tried running your app?
[01:40] <BookerZ> Hello #ubuntu! I just got 8.10, and installed the updates as well as activating NVidia 9800 GT drivers. Now when I go to start ubuntu, I get a terminal instead of the GUI. I'm new to Ubuntu, so forgive me for the lack of technical jargon ._. but any help would be great!
[01:41] <savvas> benjamin2: are you talking about windows? ask in #windows
[01:41] <Chaorain> I am currently dual booting between Mythbuntu and Ubuntu Ultamite edition would it be better to install MythTV on Ubuntu Ultamite edition instead?
[01:41] <savvas> fuzzy: your specs must be similar to these: http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/laptops/toshiba-satellite-1800-514/details/
[01:41] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: What do you mean, which driver am I checking to see if installed? the newest ati or fglrx?  I don't think it is because all that is there is wlan and ath stuff
[01:41] <bdelin88> anyone know about this permissions error?
[01:41] <bdelin88> hey, i have a permissions problem with the www-data group (var/www on a ubuntu server) I added my username to the group, gave it 775 permissions (the whole www folder -R and everything) and it works great if folders are set up, and i can create folders with filezilla, however, when I try dropping folders from the source into destination it will not create new directories, "Permission denied" what's the deal?
[01:41] <FloodBot1> bdelin88: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <benjamin2> savvas: No in ubuntu.  Im on my macbook pro accidentally pressed crtl or shift or alt or apple key and f11 f12 or something around that and it zoomed in
[01:42] <savvas> benjamin2: try ctrl + mouse wheel up
[01:42] <luciano_uisk> hi to all
[01:43] <luciano_uisk> i am trying to compile a kernel just for fun, but i am having some problems
[01:43] <john_> hello hello all,   real quick question which one is would be better Xfce or Xfld for a P2 w/ 128 mb of ram
[01:43] <benjamin2> savvas:  Don't have a wheel
[01:43] <mun> ^hashbang^: no, not yet. i'll give it a try
[01:43] <luciano_uisk> i can use my wireless card in ubuntu kernel, but i cant use it in my compiled kernel
[01:43] <bdelin88> ANYONE AT ALL?
[01:44] <savvas> benjamin2: sorry, no idea, I'll have to go for now - hope you get through it :) try alt+f1 and arrow keys to try and log out or just press ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the desktop manager
[01:44] <luciano_uisk> the kernel i a trying to compile is 2.6.26, and the ubuntu kernel is 2.6.24-22
[01:44] <^hashbang^> mun: ok
[01:44] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: what's up
[01:44] <greenfuji> does anyone know how to setup amule to save files to a samba file server?
[01:45] <commodore256> Is it possible to use the darwin kernel with ubuntu?
[01:45] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: alright thanks for noticing so here's the deal:  i have a permissions problem with the www-data group (var/www on a ubuntu server) I added my username to the group, gave it 775 permissions (the whole www folder -R and everything) and it works great if folders are set up, and i can create folders with filezilla, however, when I try dropping folders from the source into destination it will not create new directories, "Permiss
[01:45] <^hashbang^> commodere256: hmm, doubt it... plus, why would you want to
[01:45] <^hashbang^> commodere256: it's setup for apple
[01:45] <Chaorain> How do I install MythTV? sudo apt-get install mythtv?
[01:45] <commodore256> to see what it would be like
[01:45] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: any idea what the deal is?
[01:45] <^hashbang^> commodere256: unless you are making your own
[01:46] <nkei0> What is 'uname -r' for?
[01:46] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: you added your username to the group www-data?
[01:46] <prince_jammys> !mythtv > Chaorain
[01:46] <commodore256> you can use the open solaris kernel with ubuntu
[01:46] <WebcamWonder> nkei0: kernel version
[01:46] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: yes, that's what a lot of guides say to do
[01:46] <^hashbang^> nkei0: its for the kernel release
[01:46] <greenfuji> Chaosrain: that should work or you could just browse to the package in add / remove
[01:47] <nkei0> ^hashbang^: Did you get my last message about how that driver wasn't in the volatile folder?
[01:47] <Chaorain> ty
[01:47] <russia213> Grub error 21 while my external hard drive is plugged in, help? Please don't give me link to tutorials, they do not work, I need real help
[01:47] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: so if you type touch /var/www/test what happens?
[01:47] <bdelin88> let me check
[01:48] <palomer> hello
[01:48] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: well i put in "touch /var/www/test" and "touch /var/www/" and it just makes a new command line, nothing happens
[01:48] <palomer> how do I turn off all the eye candy
[01:48] <palomer> to make my computer faster?
[01:48] <jrib> palomer: system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects -> none
[01:49] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: ls /var/www/
[01:49] <greenfuji> palomer: system, prefeerence, appearance
[01:49] <commodore256> install the compiz fusion icon
[01:49] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: do you see the test file
[01:49] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: yes i do
[01:49] <palomer> thx
[01:49] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: ok permissions seem to work fine
[01:49] <keres> I have a scratched DVD. I was wondering if there is a program out there to strictly rip it from the DVD, and burn it to a blank one without any conversion of the codec so it will play on a normal dvd player
[01:49] <redvamp128> russia213:  okay I think I may know-- why it is failing-- go into your bios and change boot order-- possibly set to USB-CDROM-HDD (set it to CDROM then HDD) and if that does not fix your issue then redo the fix grub and reinstall to hdd (c:)
[01:49] <luciano_uisk> anyone knows which module is responsible for the d-link wireless cards?
[01:50] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: what does ls -al /var/www show
[01:50] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: yea everything works fine, i can create directories and delete with ftp it seems, but when i create a new folder i have to give it new permissions each time i make a new directory, or else files i transfer from filezilla to new directory do not transfer because of permission denied, see?
[01:51] <keres> will just copying all the files/folders from a DVD and burning it to another DVD work?
[01:51] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: some dots, my web folders, and "test"
[01:51] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: ok so are you logging as anonymous or your account?
[01:51] <x_> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2008-09/msg09681.html can any one help me to pat this to my ipw2200
[01:51] <bdelin88> no logging in with my account
[01:51] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: hmm, what ftp server?
[01:51] <whatev> why doesnt touch have a recursive option?
[01:52] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: my home ftp server run by apache (SFTP)
[01:52] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: apache doesn't run an ftp server... vsftpd is an ftp server and SFTP is an ssh ftp server
[01:52] <x_> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2008-09/msg09681.html can any one help me to pat this to my ipw2200
[01:52] <cast|lir> whatev: prob because you  could just use touch+find
[01:53] <bdelin88> oh well i am connecting to my server by putting in the ip address lol
[01:53] <bdelin88> that is what i mean..
[01:53] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: i have to run for like 20 minutes :( i'll see if you're around in a bit... sry and thank you
[01:53] <palomer> how else can I speed up ubuntu?
[01:53] <saidi> mauk
[01:53] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: somethin has come up
[01:53] <saidi> tahiah
[01:53] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: np... i'll be going home soon...
[01:53] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: I'll be on tomorrow
[01:53] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: well that's ok, thank you for ur help, i'll see who else i can find, thanks again
[01:53] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: or someone here will be able to help
[01:54] <^hashbang^> bdelin88: anytime
[01:54] <dwarder> why kubuntu does't allow to resize ntfs partition?
[01:54] <erpo> How come update-manager doesn't show change descriptions for packages that come from PPAs? How can I help PPA projects so that useful information appears in the "Changes" tab?
[01:54] <^hashbang^> palomer: what do you mean speed up?
[01:54] <dwarder> am i missing something?
[01:54] <palomer> make it faster
[01:54] <WebcamWonder> !gparted | dwarder
[01:54] <palomer> are some themes faster than others?
[01:54] <keres> can you rip a dvd and burn it to a blank one in nautilus and it will still work/
[01:54] <^hashbang^> palomer:  like how? what do you mean? describe?
[01:55] <carlitos___> hi all
[01:55] <carlitos___> I have  a  mp4  de  4gb
[01:55] <^hashbang^> !dvd |keres
[01:55] <erpo> keres: You need special software to copy dvds.
[01:55] <RequinB4> !sound
[01:55] <palomer> my computer is a little old
[01:55] <palomer> so its slow
[01:55] <dwarder> ubottu: i'm installing distro, i want to resize windows partition to install kubuntu
[01:55] <carlitos___> I have  a  mp4  de  4gb , but  I   can not  acees  to the  disk ,   I just  see  disk   :   Bus 004 Device 008: ID 05cb:1483 PowerVision Technologies, Inc. PV8630 interface (scanners, webcams)
[01:55] <^hashbang^> palomer: try xbuntu it's made for older computers
[01:55] <jove> HI All, does anyone know how to reset the monitor display to higher resolution ?
[01:56] <dwarder> ubottu: ok will use live cd
[01:56] <dwarder> ubottu: thank you
[01:56] <saidi> dower
[01:56] <palomer> ooh, looks nice
[01:56] <palomer> thx
[01:56] <tritium> ^hashbang^: not specifically just for old computer, but rather for anyone who wants a lighter desktop
[01:56] <saidi> hi
[01:56] <keres> erpo: i do not intend on converting the DVD's codec, i do not need to play it on my computer. would i still need software?
[01:56] <cast|lir> jove: sure, there's a few ways. for example, oyou use nvidias restricted drivers?
[01:56] <dwarder> ubottu: botsnack
[01:56] <sd32> when i click on a drop down menu  in the top of a window the drop down menu only shows a icon and a underscore, how can i get back my menu's
[01:56] <Imaginativeone_> how do I reinstall ubuntu with a hard drive reformat?
[01:56] <dwarder> ubottu: cool, smart bot
[01:56] <^hashbang^> palomer: it's primary purpose was for older computers that couldn't run gnome or kde well...
[01:56] <dwarder> :)
[01:57] <Pyles17> can anyone help me with my wifi? the card is an intel 3945abg, so the driver comes with ubuntu. however,  it usually doesn't work.
[01:57] <erpo> keres: Yes.
[01:57] <keres> erpo: do you know the name of this software?
[01:57] <^hashbang^> palomer: the advantage for us with fast computers is we can have it even faster using xbuntu =)
[01:57] <erpo> keres: You will need something to remove the copy protection and something to recompress the video so that it fits on a 4GB dvd.
[01:57] <ace3924809> hey anyone run into issues installing Gnome Do .8 on 64bit ubuntu hardy?
[01:57] <Imaginativeone_> without a hard drive reformat, that is...
[01:57] <dwarder> WebcamWonder: ty ;)
[01:57] <erpo> keres: I like DVDFab Decrypter and DVD Shrink via wine.
[01:57] <jove> castlir, I upgraded ATI on this Ubuntu which messed up my display...how should I get back to the previous display?
[01:58] <keres> erpo: the dvd itself is 4.2gb, i have a 4.7gb blank dvd
[01:58] <RequinB4> can someone help me?  i'm using alsa, noticed that sound isn't coming out (speaker-test won't play sound either)
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> dwarder: Np. If you are installing ubuntu, ubuntu has a built-in partitioning manager during its installation
[01:58] <carlitos___> hi pls  any  help   about this?
[01:58] <keres> erpo: is this a good tutorial? http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[01:58] <jove> do you know how to select Nvidia display ?
[01:58] <dwarder> WebcamWonder: why gnome superior?
[01:58] <^hashbang^> !nvidia | jove
[01:59] <dwarder> WebcamWonder: should i use it?
[01:59] <erpo> keres: Yeah, that looks good.
[01:59] <WebcamWonder> dwarder: Any *buntu distro should have a partitioning manager on its installation. I am not sure about others, but they should definitely have it
[02:00] <jove> can I manual install NVidia driver ?
[02:00] <Gnea> jove: you can, but we don't support it.
[02:00] <Pyles17> any help on the intel 3945 card? i've given up
[02:00] <odeland> hello, is there a definitive guide on how to install ubuntu server from a usb key
[02:00] <MeVsTheVoices> Is it possible for me to watch the 'Watch Now' option in netflix using Opera
[02:00] <Gnea> !nvidia
[02:01] <dwarder> WebcamWonder: kubuntu does have partitioning but not resizing ntfs
[02:01] <jove> Gnea, so how I install NVdia via GUI?
[02:01] <keres> jove: you should just do 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new'
[02:01] <Gnea> !nvidia | jove
[02:01] <keres> jove: the tuner program?
[02:01] <keres> jove: to tune the fan, resolution, etcc...
[02:01] <MeVsTheVoices> System, Administration, Restricted Drivers
[02:01] <WebcamWonder> dwarder: Are you sure? That doesn't seem right. Anyways, I haven't installed any of them for quite some time now, so I don't particularly remember
[02:01] <benjamin_> I have ubuntu server 64 on a bootable usb drive created using ubuntu 'create a usb startup disk'.  How do I install this on a external harddrive connected with firewire
[02:02] <jove> kres, after install NVdia, then how should I start or configure/setup ?
[02:02] <niku> benjamin_ - I haven't tried this before, but I'm guessing dd would be your friend
[02:03] <keres> jove: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:03] <MeVsTheVoices> jove: It should setup as default, if not, find your xorg.conf and change the driver name?
[02:03] <keres> jove: and then type nvidia-settings in terminal, or find it in the menu
[02:03] <tritium> keres: your information is a bit dated
[02:03] <benjamin_> niku: i'm sorry dd?
[02:03] <keres> tritium: how?
[02:03] <niku> dd is "disk to disk" iirc
[02:04] <tritium> keres: the nvidia-glx-* depend on nvidia-settings.  He doesn't need to install it separately.
[02:04] <Sl4r1> ffs, enough people here...
[02:04] <niku> you'd want to do something like dd IF=/dev/yourusbthumbdrivedevice OF=/dev/usbhddevice
[02:04] <tritium> jove: also, if you want the absolute latest, install nvidia-glx-180
[02:04] <keres> tritium: oh, ok
[02:04] <niku> that would make an exact block level copy
[02:04] <dwarder> WebcamWonder: well, yes can't find resize or something like this ...
[02:04] <keres> tritium: shouldnt -new automatically resolve to the latest version?
[02:04] <odeland> where can I find the definitive guide to installling ubuntu server from a usb disk?
[02:04] <tritium> keres: other than than, you're advising exactly as you should!  :)
[02:04] <n8tuser> benjamin_ -> does your bios even support firewire device booting
[02:04] <n8tuser> ?
[02:04] <keres> hehe
[02:04] <tritium> keres: no, right now -new grabs -177
[02:05] <carlitos___> I have  a  mp4  de  4gb , but  I   can not  acees  to the  disk ,   I just  see  disk   :   Bus 004 Device 008: ID 05cb:1483 PowerVision Technologies, Inc. PV8630 interface (scanners, webcams)
[02:05] <keres> oh
[02:05] <benjamin_> n8tuser: How do I find that out?
[02:05] <tuxedocurly> Hey guys in installed SAMBA but i am at a total loss as to what to do next. I am trying to create a media server in ubuntu. If anyone could walk me through the process or send me to a link that has an easy to fallow walk-through, that would be great. THANKS! (note: i want windows XP computers to be able to access these files, not other linux machines)
[02:05] <MeVsTheVoices> I didn't know anything supported firewire device booting
[02:05] <n8tuser> benjamin_ -> read your mobo manual?
[02:05] <prince_jammys> !samba > tuxedocurly
[02:05] <benjamin_> n8tuser: What would that be under?
[02:05] <Sl4r1> I'm having a problem with upgrading to 8.10 get a 403 error in while downloading, can anyone help?
[02:06] <ryanprior> Sl4r1: Have you tried using a different mirror?
[02:06] <n8tuser> benjamin_ -> kindly find the resource to find out about your mobo
[02:06] <Sl4r1> how would I do that?
[02:06] <tuxedocurly> I know i have samba installed, but how do i use it? im a total newb and i need an easy to follow walkthrough (Step-by-step)
[02:06] <jove> keres, where do I find xorg.conf ?
[02:06] <niku> Sl4r1, maybe try a getting it via bittorrent?
[02:06] <n8tuser> Sl4r1 -> i suggest do a fresh install instead of an upgrade.. less headaches
[02:06] <benjamin_> n8tuser:  I build my pc.  Its running a ASUS P5Q Pro motherboard. I have the manual at my desk with me.
[02:06] <MeVsTheVoices> Sl4r1: Your not getting the right one, 403 is a forbidden, you are probably in the wrong spots of an ftp server
[02:07] <n8tuser> benjamin_ -> then read it, and find out if it supports booting from firewire
[02:07] <deadbattery> i am trying to install litespeed and i get errors telling me permission denied
[02:07] <Sl4r1> I'm using the update manager...
[02:07] <tuxedocurly> anybody have info?
[02:07] <jove> do you know where the file xorg.conf reside ?
[02:07] <Sl4r1> that should be right...right
[02:07] <niku> Sl4r1, maybe a proxy issue? You can set an apt proxy, or point to a machine with a local mirror
[02:07]  * n8tuser bets Sl4r1 would be back for more questions after this upgrade..
[02:08] <MeVsTheVoices> jove: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:08] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: you still on?
[02:08] <deadbattery> what does this error mean [ERROR] Must be absolute path!
[02:08] <Sl4r1> hehe...I had enough problems with getting the ati driver working...
[02:08] <bdelin88> ^hashbang^: i have 7 minutes now lol
[02:08] <benjamin_> n8tuser: I believe that it does not.  So is there a way I can do it?
[02:08] <deadbattery> anyone?
[02:08] <[dangerduck]> what
[02:09] <MeVsTheVoices> Sl4r1: Nvidea drivers are much more compatible with linux, ATI vids, giant pain in the ass
[02:09] <ryanprior> jove: locate xorg.conf
[02:09] <Sl4r1> niku, I would not know how to do that, I'm somewhat of a linux n00b
[02:09] <tuxedocurly> Hey guys in installed SAMBA but i am at a total loss as to what to do next. I am trying to create a media server in ubuntu. If anyone could walk me through the process or send me to a link that has an easy to fallow walk-through, that would be great. THANKS! (note: i want windows XP computers to be able to access these files, not other linux machines)
[02:09] <n8tuser> benjamin_ -> if it does not, you have to modify initrd to load firewire drivers, and those are not an easy to toy with..
[02:09] <tuxedocurly> (sorry for the broken-record-ness)
[02:09] <Sl4r1> as you may or may not have noticed, in this short time
[02:09] <ryanprior> !samba | tuxedocurly
[02:10] <[dangerduck]> )
[02:10] <[dangerduck]> -
[02:10] <[dangerduck]> -irc.freenode.org- *** Looking up your hostname...
[02:10] <[dangerduck]> -
[02:10] <[dangerduck]> -irc.freenode.org- *** Checking ident
[02:10] <FloodBot1> [dangerduck]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <[dangerduck]> -
[02:10] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: alright well, once i have samba installed what do i do with it? like.. how do i work it?
[02:10] <benjamin_> n8tuser: what is initrd?
[02:10] <cobb28> when i choose to "create a new usb startup disk in ubuntu 8.04, i select "other" and the program quits...any ideas?
[02:10] <deadbattery> what does this error mean [ERROR] Must be absolute path!
[02:10] <niku> Sl4r1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96802
[02:10] <n8tuser> benjamin_ -> init ram disk, its an advanced concepts.. you must read up on it if you want to learn it
[02:11] <Sl4r1> thnx I'll take a look
[02:11] <bdelin88> how do you set permissions to a directory and then when new directories are created, continue to apply those permissions to new subdirectories?
[02:11] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: My university has a samba share called sgs2 which contains my user folder. To connect to it, I go to Places -> Connect to Server, select Custom Location, enter "smb://sgs2/ryanprior$" as the URI, and click "OK". Then I enter in my password and I'm on.
[02:11] <benjamin_> n8tuser: Is that windows side for ubuntu side
[02:11] <n8tuser> benjamin_ -> linux
[02:11] <bdelin88> how do you set permissions to a directory and then when new directories are created, continue to apply those permissions to new subdirectories?
[02:12] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: but dont you have to be on an ubuntu machine to do that? how do i make it so that my windows PC can access the files?
[02:12] <deadbattery> when i try to do something in console in ubuntu i get permission denied? why
[02:12] <n8tuser> deadbattery -> because you dont have the permissions
[02:12] <deadbattery> how do i get the permision?
[02:12] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: initrd is what loads first when linux comes up, the first bytes loaded in to RAM, it then boots the selected kernel modules and fires the puppy up
[02:13] <n8tuser> !who | deadbattery
[02:13] <benjamin_> n8tuser: can I install ubuntu on Virtualbox on my internal hdd and use the external as the storage.
[02:13] <n8tuser> benjamin_ -> possible
[02:13] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: Sure
[02:14] <Trinithis> is it possible to have virtual box run an os (vista) from another partition instead of a virtual drive?
[02:14] <bdelin88> how do you set permissions to a directory and then when new directories are created, continue to apply those permissions to new subdirectories?
[02:14] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: I remember that being super easy, but I'm having trouble finding which icon to click. Give me a minute longer.
[02:14] <odeland> Can I install from a USB key on a new system?
[02:14] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoice: Can I install off of a USB stick
[02:14] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: alright, ill be patient. preemptive thanks mate
[02:15] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: Another yes, ain't linux grand
[02:15] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoices:  Is there a tutorial or walkthrough for that?
[02:15] <russia213> I just reinstalled the windows MBR but now when I boot I get "GRUB        "  then nothing, help?
[02:15] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: Sure, gimme a sec
[02:15] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoices:  and for Virtualbox
[02:15] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoices: Take your time
[02:16] <n8tuser> Trinithis -> i believe thats possible
[02:16] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: Are you on 8.10?
[02:16] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoices:yes and so is the server side
[02:16] <Trinithis> mmk
[02:16] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: Look under system-> admin-> create bootable USB stick
[02:17] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoices: ok
[02:17] <russia213> I just reinstalled the windows MBR but now when I boot I get "GRUB        "  then nothing, help?
[02:18] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: In Ubuntu Hardy, I'm pretty certain, there's an easy-to-find "Shared Folders" dialog somewhere, but in Intrepid now I can't find it for the life of me.
[02:18] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoices: Got it up and running
[02:18] <porter1> Ugh... Firefox is using 1 gig of my memory...
[02:18] <sd32> !browser
[02:19] <dkulchenko> porter1: yep, that's the kind of thing that is (unfortunately) forcing me to use Opera
[02:19] <sd32> guess the bots off
[02:19] <deadbattery> i am trying to install litespeed and i get a notification telling me  The user 'nobody' must be able to access the destination
[02:19] <deadbattery>            directory.
[02:19] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: would that "shared folders" thing be located in ''places'' or ''system''?
[02:19] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: My add/remove programs dialog shows that it's installed on my system.......
[02:20] <porter1> dkulchenko, yeah, I try to use opera, but then eventually it just crashes. My guess is that Flash is still unstable
[02:20] <redvamp128> russia213:  I think I know why it is not working you left before I could give my answer
[02:20] <sd32> i cant get the opera menu's to show properly
[02:20] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: I seem to remember it being in System -> Preferences
[02:20] <dkulchenko> porter1: yeah, i hate opera. it can't play mp3s without freezing, its download manager sucks, and flash support is horrible
[02:20] <PSiL0> !fglrx
[02:20] <russia213> redvamp128: Sorry ^^()
[02:20] <redvamp128> russia213:  check your bios boot order- change it from USB-CDROM-HDD to just Cdrom then HDD -- then reinstall grub to C:
[02:20] <dkulchenko> PSiL0: the bot's off
[02:20] <PSiL0> gotcha
[02:20] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: The rest should make sense for that part, what did you want to do with Virtual box again?
[02:21] <n8tuser> who has used quicksynergy to control two pc with one keyboard and mouse? how to get this working?
[02:21] <redvamp128> russia213:  I think that something is not loading grub up from the usb drive properly-
[02:21] <russia213> redvamp128: My BIOS doesn't support boot from USB
[02:21] <mostyfriedman> hey everyone, i have a problem..some keys on the keyboard stopped working suddenly..any suggestions?
[02:21] <dkulchenko> i have this dillema. i have this usb microphone, which works very well, but there is one problem. if i keep the capture sound level low, the sound is too quiet, but if i turn it up, the microphone becomes too sensitive. what balance should i use to keep my voice loud, and other noise low? i can hear even the slight tapping on the table, but my voice is not loud enough.
[02:21] <redvamp128> russia213:  that was my thoughts as to why it didn't work--
[02:21] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoices: So I created the Start up disk already.  Do I just stick it in?
[02:22] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: I can't figure out where the heck it is! I just booted up my laptop, which still runs Hardy, and can't find it there either...
[02:22] <tuxedocurly> dang >.<
[02:22] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: hmm
[02:22] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: Yes
[02:22] <russia213> redvamp128: GRUB can see external
[02:23] <tazwhite95> Does any one know  if there is a way to mount a UDF
[02:23] <Sylphid> does anyone know of any FOSS bare metal hypervisors?
[02:23] <n8tuser> tazwhite95 -> find out if your system support such FileSystem
[02:23] <MeVsTheVoices> benjamin_: Depends on your BIOS at this part, but boot from USB, either boot priority in Setup, or boot select, F12 generally
[02:23] <russia213> redvamp128: just not when booting
[02:24] <tazwhite95> UDF is a Vista format
[02:24] <n8tuser> tazwhite95 -> i doubt it if thats supported
[02:24] <odeland> what's Vista?
[02:24] <cast|lir> Sylphid: like xen?
[02:24] <ryanprior> !vista | odeland
[02:24] <usser> tazwhite95, udf is a dvd filesystem, extended iso9660 basically
[02:24] <ubuntuBG> Is there any one can help me to install printer?
[02:25] <Gnea> !printer | ubuntuBG
[02:25] <benjamin_> MeVsTheVoice: So I restart boot from USB, install Ubuntu. then reboot.  How do I get it to go back to Vista?
[02:25] <MeVsTheVoices> UDF is not a Vista setup
[02:25] <MeVsTheVoices> UDF is not a Vista setup
[02:25] <tazwhite95> I backed up all my files from Vista to find out after in stall ubuntu will not mount it
[02:25] <SxNDave> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-boot-cd-for-ubuntu-810/
[02:25] <tazwhite95> grrr
[02:25] <usser> tazwhite95, sudo mount -o loop /dev/dvd /mnt
[02:25] <Sylphid> cast|lir, will xen do bare metal  full virtualization  i thought it was just paravirtualization
[02:25] <usser> tazwhite95, err scratch that -o loop
[02:25] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: This is very frustrating. I can clearly see that it's installed on my system, but it isn't an item in any menu and the tool doesn't tell me where it's installed.
[02:26] <SxNDave> benjamin_ thats a link to a cd for booting flash drives if you can't set the priority
[02:26] <usser> tazwhite95, sudo mount /dev/dvd /mnt
[02:26] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: Or even what the package is called!!!!!
[02:26] <SxNDave> benjamin_ or if you don't know the computer you're going to be using its handy to have with you.
[02:26] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: does places->network have anything to do with it?
[02:27] <benjamin_> SxNDave: thanks. but can't find the link
[02:27] <dkulchenko> i have this dillema. i have this usb microphone, which works very well, but there is one problem. if i keep the capture sound level low, the sound is too quiet, but if i turn it up, the microphone becomes too sensitive. what balance should i use to keep my voice loud, and other noise low? i can hear even the slight tapping on the table, but my voice is not loud enough.
[02:27] <SxNDave> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-boot-cd-for-ubuntu-810/
[02:27] <cast|lir> Sylphid: paravirtualization and running on baremetal isn't mutually exclusive is it? anyway, xen will do full virtualization of non-modified OSes ifyour cpu haas virtualization extensions, which is most recent chips. i knwo my AMD X2 does
[02:27] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: That's where you go to view other networked devices.
[02:27] <Louis> hello!  I'm having a bit of an issue with a samba share.  I want my music shares to allow all users on the network to read/write and create directories.  However, all clients are unable to move files, create directories, or write to the share.  Any ideas?   Pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/114316/
[02:27] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: There's a separate application which lets you specify folders to be shared via Samba and/or NFS.
[02:27] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: hm... alright
[02:28] <jove> Folks, after running nvidia-xconfig, how to start x server ?
[02:28] <russia213> redvamp128: any help?
[02:28] <tuxedocurly> its not in /etc/samba/?
[02:28] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: It's very easy to use, and I distinctly remember it being easy to find, and I've helped people to use it before.
[02:28] <kitche> jove: startx
[02:28] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: That's where the samba configuration files are, if you want to edit them by hand.
[02:28] <n8tuser> cast|lir -> how did that worked for you? xen using baremetal?
[02:28] <cast|lir> jove: /etc/init/d/gdm start will startup your login manager
[02:28] <tazwhite95>  thanks but will not mount grrr
[02:29] <Sylphid> cast|lir, do you know of any docs or howto's for that
[02:29] <tritium> ryanprior: nvidia-xconfig is usually not used.  To reconfigure your X server, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:29] <Tekno> Hi
[02:29] <tritium> ryanprior: sorry, wrong nick
[02:29] <redvamp128> russia213:  That was my only thought about it since it is -- a usb device
[02:29] <Tekno> How can I update Feisty (7.04) to next version ?
[02:29] <tritium> jove: nvidia-xconfig is usually not used.  To reconfigure your X server, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <cast|lir> n8tuser: id like to use it as a desktop, last time i looked accelerated graphics were still in progress though. my server runs in  xen vm :)
[02:30] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: i see... so samba SHOULD have some sort of folder that makes it easy to drag/drop share?
[02:30] <n8tuser> cast|lir -> that much power for a desktop? :P
[02:30] <usser> Louis, try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/114326/
[02:31] <cast|lir> n8tuser: the non-accelerated graphics pissed me off pretty fast
[02:31] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: I figured something out, at least.
[02:31] <usser> tazwhite95, what does it say?
[02:31] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: It's not the same thing I remember, but try right-clicking the folder you want to share, and then click "Sharing Options"
[02:31] <Louis> usser:  thanks a bunch. let me check that out
[02:31] <cast|lir> n8tuser: its useful from a secuirty perspective to compartmentise a machine :)
[02:32] <Sylphid> cast|lir, im basically looking for a FOSS comparable to vmware ESXi
[02:32] <dkulchenko> hi Tekno
[02:32] <n8tuser> cast|lir -> oh okay, yeah for compartamentalization!...
[02:32] <Tekno> hi
[02:32] <benjamin_> SxNDave: I have a silly question.  Could I potential connect my external harddrive to my laptop with ubuntu 8.10 on it and use 'create usb startup disk' to install ubuntu server 8.10 on it.  Then connect it to my pc run, vmware, and have a server running while windows runs?
[02:32] <asus> anyone here know about OSSEC ?
[02:32] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: alright
[02:32] <markus_> I installed system with root partition only. Are swap and other partitions a must? When yes, can I now make other partitions with livecd only or could I do it in system too (I had no luck with gparted)?
[02:32] <usser> Louis, also make sure you chown/chmod the directory you're sharing to something like chown mythtv:mythtv
[02:32] <usser> Louis, and chmod it to 770
[02:32] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: That dialog doesn't let you specify advanced options or use NFS, but if you don't want those things, it'll work.
[02:32] <cast|lir> Sylphid: google! i foudn it pretty trivial on debian, install a linux kernel patched for xen, install the supervisor, reboot
[02:33] <ryanprior> tuxedocurly: However, I'm going to hunt down that proper application eventually and file a bug that it's not easier to find.
[02:33] <cast|lir> on my desktop ive just ended up using KVM, which works well :)
[02:33] <redvamp128> russia213:  I know -- but what I was thinking was that if the boot device was getting confused somehow--
[02:33] <Louis> usser:  you're saying that user and group "mythtv" has to own the directory right?  And the force group and force user parameter means that any subdirectories created through the share will be owned by mythtv, right?
[02:33] <n8tuser> markus_ -> a new install? you may as well re-install and have /, /home and /swap partitions
[02:33] <redvamp128> russia213:  all solutions I have googled and read -- have said reinstall grub
[02:33] <usser> Louis, yes that is correct
[02:34] <SxNDave> benjamin_: ias far as I know theres no reason why not, I used to run linux happily as a secondary OS in vmware to decide if i wanted to move over.
[02:34] <redvamp128> russia213:  though let me find it -- you could possibly try super grub disk
[02:34] <fluitfries> how many workspaces do you all use?
[02:34] <_VIM_> 1
[02:34] <Louis> usser:  aaah i think i know what the problem is... i created the directories in the share via ssh with another user... duh =)
[02:34] <WebcamWonder> fluitfries: 1
[02:35] <redvamp128> russia213:  it has better tools to help configure grub and fix common boot errors. Super Grub Disk Webpage <http://www.supergrubdisk.org/>
[02:35] <usser> Louis, also if i were you i'd set a sticky bit on the directory too, since you might be putting files there from the mythbox as well as uploading them. sticky bit will force all local files to be owned by the mythtv group
[02:35] <SxNDave> benjamin_ I think you need to do the install through vmware though
[02:35] <tuxedocurly> ryanprior: alright, thanks mate! (sorry it takes me so long to reply, im using a SLOW Pentium 4 processor)
 thanks man!
[02:35]  * fluitfries uses 4.
[02:35] <Louis> usser:  what's the sticky bit?
[02:35] <benjamin_> SxNDave: Alright. Ill try that now
[02:36] <russia213> redvamp128: I'll see what I can do
[02:36] <Imaginativeone> how do I get all the updates via terminal?
[02:36] <redvamp128> russia213:  did you get that last one about the super grub disk (it has tools to help fix grub errors)
[02:36] <WebcamWonder> Imaginativeone: sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[02:36] <usser> Louis, it basically changes the ownerships of files that are created/copied/moved to the directory to a certain group, mythtv in this case, samba's force group, only locally
[02:36] <fluitfries> i keep one workspace dedicated to my XP VM, one for gimp, one for browsing and the other for terminal stuff
[02:36] <russia213> redvamp128: yes
[02:36] <WebcamWonder> fluitfries: offtopic please :)
[02:36] <fluitfries> sry
[02:36] <risefromashes> hi, I am wondering what is going on with the Azureus client, the 2.5* version. is it still being updated or has it been stalgating since Vuze 3* version?
[02:37] <Louis> usser:  aah okay. how do I do that?
[02:37] <usser> Louis, chmod -R g+s /directory
[02:37] <ubuntuBG> Is Canon lbp2900 work with Ubuntu 8.10
[02:37] <Louis> usser:  and -R makes it recursive, correct?
[02:37] <maheshkumar1986> Have u nice day for all and my problem is I am using Ubuntu 8.04 since 1 month form 3 days it become slow to open package managing
[02:38] <usser> Louis, yes
[02:38] <maheshkumar1986> synaptic
[02:38] <WebcamWonder> maheshkumar1986: Why are you opening synaptic everyday?
[02:38] <maheshkumar1986> and browser also slows down
[02:38] <maheshkumar1986> and some applications allso
[02:38] <Imaginativeone> is this significant?
[02:39] <Imaginativeone> could not resolve security.ubuntu.com
[02:39] <Louis> usser:  im getting this error:   louis@server:~$ sudo chmod -r g+s /var/lib/mythtv
[02:39] <Louis> chmod: cannot access `g+s': No such file or directory
[02:39] <_VIM_> maheshkumar1986: what kinds of things have you installed recently?
[02:39] <usser> Louis, -R
[02:39] <Louis> usser:  oh. duh. man i fail today
[02:39] <cambazz> hello  I got >> dev/null 2>&1 at the end of each cron line, yet i still get a mail about the cronjob
[02:39] <markus_> but just one more question: I had xp on my first partition and the second raw partition was of course empty, but in install step: partitions or sth  I could have chosen between two options: guided installation or sth (use entire HD!) or manual. Why entire disk if I have two partitions?
[02:40] <Louis> usser:  i still don't have the permissions
[02:40] <usser> Louis, with samba
[02:40] <usser> Louis, ?
[02:40] <Louis> usser:  yes
[02:40] <risefromashes> markus: because it will change your partitions to a monolith partition for ubuntu
[02:40] <usser> Louis, did u restart it after modifying the smb.conf?
[02:40] <maheshkumar1986> I am a webdveloper iam unable to take related packages for ubuntu cd soi am open ﻿synaptic some times
[02:40] <n8tuser> markus_ -> to be safe use manually partition
[02:40] <Louis> usser:  yeah i did that
[02:41] <onexused> X? is suddenly broken for me.  Last time I booted the computer and logged in, I found that maximized windows would not cover a good-sized strip at the bottom of the screen.  To try to remedy this, I changed the screen resolution using gnome-display-properties.  Now the screen scrolls horizontally, fairly quickly.  Moving the mouse changes the speed it scrolls, and how much of the screen is used by the display.  Changing the resolution or refresh r
[02:41] <usser> Louis, hm try to chmod the directory to 777 just to test it
[02:41] <cast|lir> cambazz: >> /dev/null might as well be > /dev/null FWIW
[02:41] <usser> Louis, recursively
[02:41] <onexused> This is the third or fourth time I've installed 8.10, with problems each time, though this time there were no immediate ones.  The CD checks out when booted from.
[02:42] <Louis> usser:  will do.   "chmod -R 777 /path/todirectory"
[02:42] <usser> Louis, yes
[02:42] <Louis> usser:  that fixed it
[02:43] <benjamin_> SxNDave: I want to download VMware for linux or Windows?
 yeah but I do not know how many and what partitions should I make, I'm not advanced user :(
[02:43] <benjamin_> SXNDave: Nevermind
[02:43] <SxNDave> ok
[02:43] <usser> Louis, cool, that makes it world writable, no authentication no passwords anybody can write to it
[02:43] <n8tuser> markl_ -> then perhaps guided would be the next choice
[02:43] <Louis> usser:  i guess that's fine. it's on a home network, so it's no biggie
[02:44] <risefromashes> ﻿hi, I am wondering what is going on with the Azureus client, the 2.5* version. is it still being updated or has it been abandoned since Vuze 3* version?
[02:44] <Louis> usser:  if it ain't broke, don't fix it right? =)
[02:44] <_VIM_> !latest | risefromashes
[02:44] <usser> Louis, well it is kinda broke :)
[02:44] <Louis> usser:  shhhhh!  hush!
[02:44] <usser> hehe
[02:44] <Louis> my mythbox is perfect
[02:45] <markus_> and when I'm finished with root partition I didnt notice that I could make it smaller or make other partitions out of root one
[02:45] <usser> Louis, im not sure if chmod 777 cleared the sticky bit so just to be safe chmod -R g+s /path
[02:45] <maheshkumar1986> ﻿Louis if ur new to the Linux just try http://www.linuxcommand.org/; http://tldp.org/ for more tutorial and has a downloadable version of tutorials
[02:45] <Louis> usser:  will do. thanks for all the help
[02:45] <usser> Louis, no problem
[02:46] <Louis> makeshkumar1986 ... thanks...
[02:46] <thedailylunatic> help
[02:46] <risefromashes> ubottu: i noticed the difference in versions, but azureus's new verions are now non gpl licence, instead proprietary. i just wondering if i should continue using the 2.5* version or use something like deluge or Ktorrent since it is still being worked on with new releases coming out
[02:46] <thedailylunatic> lol, sorry, brand new to irc. was trying to hit faq with that "help"
[02:46] <deever> is there a way to use wpa with a pure /etc/network/interfaces solution? i mean, without having to call wpa_supplicant explicitely...
[02:47] <_VIM_> risefromashes: deluge-torrent is very nice
[02:47] <Mike_92> Can someone link me to a tutorial that will let me set up user accounts over a network so I can access the same user accounts from different computers around my house?
[02:47] <risefromashes> _VIM_: ionno it kinda lacks features compared to azureus
[02:47] <_VIM_> well i think it's pretty feature rich compared to transmission
[02:48] <thedailylunatic> Could someone help me out with a graphics driver issue? I've been stuck at the command line ever since I restarted after installing xorg
[02:48] <risefromashes> _VIM_: is there a way to get custom tabs, like in azureus "assign category"?
[02:48] <cast|lir> Mike_92: hmmm, could export their home dirs via NFS
[02:48] <risefromashes> thedailylunatic: what vid card do you have?
[02:48] <_VIM_> risefromashes: Not sure, i'd have to look myself :)
[02:49] <thedailylunatic> ati radeon x1800 crossfire (2 of them)
[02:49] <Mike_92> cast|lir: Do you know of a tutorial that will tell me how to do that?
[02:49] <onexused> Guess I'll go post on the forums.  I shouldn't expect people on IRC to read such long things.
[02:49] <maheshkumar1986> i am using the Ubuntu 8.04 Linux for 2 month and it is become slowdown on their performence like slow opening of the application like Firefox, Synaptic package manager mostly this two are opening slowly
[02:49] <n8tuser> deever ->   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[02:50] <risefromashes> thedailylunatic: i'm not sure if linux drivers support crossfire. i know you can use package called "Envy" to auto install and configure xorg for ATI cards that's what i use
[02:50] <_VIM_> maheshkumar1986: are you running low on HDD space?
[02:51] <cast|lir> Mike_92: not a specific one. google will answer such things. ;). just just remote login to boxes as well, in a server-thinclient like setup, thats probably easiest than exporting home dirs and possiby setting up centralized authentication
[02:51] <maheshkumar1986> no i have a 13GB of free space 2GB of RAM, 2GB span
[02:51] <risefromashes> thedailylunatic:  "  1. Boot into recovery mode.
[02:51] <risefromashes> 2. type sudo aptitude install envy
[02:51] <risefromashes> 3. type envy -t
[02:51] <risefromashes> 4. I picked install nvidia drivers, if you do this choose what ever driver you need. "
[02:51] <FloodBot1> risefromashes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <thedailylunatic> rise: awesome! thanks! do you have any idea how I can undo
[02:51] <thedailylunatic> rise: lol
[02:51] <risefromashes> oops
[02:51] <usser> !envyng
[02:52] <risefromashes> oh yes sorry!
[02:52] <atilathehun> join #debian-es
[02:52] <modjor> hi all
[02:52] <_VIM_> atilathehun: i'd rather not ;)
[02:53] <al3x-admin> Hi all! I have a prob. Some days ago I remove one item from the Kmenu (KDE4.2) (right click > edit menu > remove item > save) and since then when I install/remove an app the Kmenu doesnt get updated, and I have to update it with kbuildsycocoa4. Any ideas how could I fix this? Its not really a big thing, but its anoying...
[02:53] <_VIM_> al3x-admin: ask that in #kubuntu
[02:53] <atilathehun>  _VIM_   jejeje
[02:54] <al3x-admin> Ok, thanks
[02:54] <_VIM_> np
[02:55] <odeland> does anyone know a good place to get reviews on harware for an office server?
[02:56] <thedailylunatic> How do I reboot in recovery mode?
[02:56] <thedailylunatic> And is there anything I can do instead of envy if it's a last resort?
[02:57] <risefromashe1> thedailylunatic: i think you can use the default vega driver but it will be a sloth, i think that's the default for live cd
[02:57] <done> hi!  anyone up for having fun with nm-applet and NetworkManager fun?
[02:58] <thedailylunatic> I had to do "safe graphics" install. Does that mean anything? :P
[02:58] <_VIM_> risefromashe1: I pm'd you back sorry i didnt see it earlier, im on irssi, it's kinda hard to see PM's
[02:59] <risefromashe1> i lagged out :p
[02:59] <thedailylunatic> To be honest, right now I could deal with vga graphics just to see the desktop again
[02:59] <risefromashe1> pidgin is annoyinjg
[02:59] <risefromashe1> _VIM_: what did you say in pm? i lagged out
[02:59] <_VIM_> dont use pidgin for IRC, use xchat or irssi
[03:00] <thedailylunatic> pm risefromashes I'm new to irc...
[03:00] <_VIM_> risefromashe1: oh i was sayin I guess Deluge doesnt have that feature
[03:00] <risefromashe1> i'm looking up another client right now
[03:00] <_VIM_> but it's still nice
[03:00] <risefromashe1> ah ok
[03:00] <eatThisAndDie> use Konversation
[03:00] <thedailylunatic> how do I pm people? :P
[03:00] <eatThisAndDie> yes it's KDE
[03:01] <x_> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2008-09/msg09681.html can any one help me to pat this to my ipw2200
[03:01] <melwtech35> can someone please tell me an alternative to WhatsUpGold for linux?
[03:02] <Quicken2k> what's the root login pw I never set it?
[03:02] <_VIM_> !root
[03:02] <Gumby> melwtech35, now what on earth would you use that for?
[03:02] <nunka> how do i check to see if i have all my drivers for my ati graphics card
[03:03] <mustangg> hey. Any ideas why "genisoimage" could fail due to "Permission denied: unable to open disk image" (run with sudo).
[03:03] <Gumby> nunka, I think if "glxinfo |grep -i render" returns ati information you are good.  otherwise you are using the stock driver
[03:03] <eatThisAndDie> Quicken2k: u could also `sudo su -` which will give you the root terminal. Then you can change the root password to what you want.
[03:04] <Gumby> nunka, but its been quite a long time since I've used an ati card in linux
[03:04] <x_> where would my wireless driver be located?
[03:04] <deever> n8tuser: yesss...works! thank you! :)
[03:05] <melwtech35> Gumby, for monitoring servers and sending alerts there is currently a whatsupgold database on our server
[03:05] <nunka> grumpy ok thank ya :)
[03:05] <seacnboy> hello, who knows what's wrong with"make[1]: *** [pcrecpp.lo] 错误 1
[03:05] <seacnboy> ", install pcre just happend
[03:05] <Gumby> melwtech35, you need packet injection for that?
[03:07] <risefromashe1> _VIM_: so should i use clients that are being updated fairly frequently if i want to have encryption for stream/full stream?
[03:07] <nunka> what is the channel # for wine help?
[03:07] <x_> where would my wireless driver be located?
[03:07] <melwtech35> Gumby, waa? whatsupgold is network managment software..
[03:07] <Quicken2k> ok here's another question why don't my headphone and mic jacks work in ubuntu?
[03:07] <kattollikisd> Help... Im trying to boot the 8.10 Cd Live of Ubuntu.. but after the usplash, the computer get frizzed
[03:07] <webbhawk_h4x0r55> is kubuntu maintained by the same people as "ubuntu"
[03:07] <thedailylunatic> Dammit
[03:07] <Quicken2k> kattollikisd try graphics in safe mode
[03:07] <thedailylunatic> envy didn't work
[03:08] <_VIM_> risefromashe1: no clue about that,, have you tried google?
[03:08] <eatThisAndDie> webbhawk_h4x0r55: yes. but from your name i woulda thought you woulda figured that all by yourself ;)
[03:08] <R0D0LF0> Hello everyone! I'm trying to install Ubuntu. I've been trying 8.04 and 8.10 (32 and 64). Under Live CD and installing I'm always getting the same message: "aperture beyond 4 Gb. Ignoring", and stays like that even after 30 minuts  and nothing else hapens. Any ideas. Thanks
[03:08] <kattollikisd> Quicken2k, how? :S
[03:08] <webbhawk_h4x0r55> this name is randomly generated :) sorry about that
[03:08] <nunka> #wine
[03:08] <webbhawk_h4x0r55> eatThisAndDie: thanks for your help
[03:08] <Quicken2k> When you get to the menu that says install ubuntu hit F4
[03:09] <eatThisAndDie> webbhawk_h4x0r55: No Prob!
[03:09] <nunka> how do i get to the wine help channel ^^?
[03:09] <eatThisAndDie> webbhawk_h4x0r55: Kde4 looks way cool btw
[03:09] <Gumby> melwtech35, lol,  oops.  i was reading one line and responding to another.  hehe.  my bad
[03:09] <bnagy> hi, subversion installs but can't find a lib
[03:09] <bnagy> svn: error while loading shared libraries: libsvn_client-1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:09] <Gumby> melwtech35, I was responding to the packet injection question by x_
[03:09] <Gumby> hehe
[03:10] <anima_> OK, I have 4 workspaces - do I have to have the same wallpaper on all of them?  I'd like to be able to tell instantly which one I was on, if possible.  I have the graphic, of course, but.
[03:10] <kattollikisd> Quicken2k, how can I try in graphics in safe mode? Im a novice
[03:10] <bnagy> I tried purge and autoremove, but how do I force it to comepletely reget and reinstall all libs?
[03:11] <fserve> date
[03:11] <eatThisAndDie> bnagy: do you know what libs you're missing?
[03:11] <anima_> fserve:  nah, don't date, thanks.
[03:11] <bnagy> libsvn_client-1.so.1, apparently
[03:11] <Quicken2k> (kattollikisd): is ubuntu installed?
[03:11] <Gumby> x_, I've tried patching that driver before and it never worked properly.  Best bet is to go buy a card that is better supported.  Also, asking about packet injection isn't going to get you very far in a public channel given its usual useage of hacking wifi networks
[03:12] <bdelin88> hey can any1 help, i have a freakin broken package that wont delete or anything and so I can't use "apt-get" anymore, output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114350/
[03:12] <bdelin88> please help! :) ^
[03:13] <eatThisAndDie> bnagy: try this : ls -alh /usr/lib/libsvn_client-1*
[03:13] <_VIM_> !fixapt
[03:13] <kattollikisd> Quicken2k, the 8.04, yes. it was hard to put it in the PC.. but I did it. I want to installl the 8.10 but it do not boot well... so im afraid to do the upgrade
[03:13] <eatThisAndDie> bnagy: in my case, /usr/lib/libsvn_client-1.so.1 is a softlink to  libsvn_client-1.so.1.0.0
[03:13] <mortici> Anyone have any good suggestions for a solid dvd making software, that will create auto chapters and the like whilst converting the video?
[03:13] <anima_> OK, I have 4 workspaces - do I have to have the same wallpaper on all of them?  I'd like to be able to tell instantly which one I was on, if possible.  I have the graphic, of course, but.
[03:14] <bnagy> eatThisAndDie: nothin'
[03:14] <melwtech35> Gumby, NP ;)
[03:14] <melwtech35> I found OpenNMS anyway
[03:14] <_VIM_> anima_: from what Ive heard, that is not possible yet...
[03:14] <bdelin88> _VIM_: it just says"pening does not take any non-option arguments
[03:14] <mustangg> mortici- DeVeDe works for me, does most if not all that.
[03:14] <bdelin88> pending* sry
[03:14] <ryanprior> My screen keeps going blank when I'm not using mouse+keyboard but I'm watching a movie, or spectating in a fullscreen game, or something. How do I stop that?
[03:14] <bdelin88> hey can any1 help, i have a freakin broken package that wont delete or anything and so I can't use "apt-get" anymore, output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114350/
[03:14] <anima_> OK, thank you.  Just thought it might be since ubuntu is so entirely slick so far.
[03:15] <tthurman> My sound has recently started only working if I run mplayer or mpg123-alsa or whatever as root, which I'm reluctant to do.  If I run it as myself, mpg123-alsa crashes with "Error in writing audio (Socket operation on non-socket?)!"
[03:16]  * tthurman wonders if there's some permissions thing I'm not getting here
[03:16] <bdelin88> hey can any1 help, i have a freakin broken package that wont delete or anything and so I can't use "apt-get" anymore, output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114350/
[03:16] <bdelin88> anyone at all?
[03:17] <asus> bdelin88 did you try sudo apt-get autoremove    ?
[03:18] <bdelin88> asus: yea  i think i tried that already it's the "bandwidthd" packet
[03:18] <bdelin88> asus: i'll try again real quick
[03:18] <bdelin88> asus: it just displays the same errors
[03:19] <bdelin88> asus: did you see that output, it's saying it's in a very bad inconsistent state
[03:19] <asus> ok what does  sudo apt-get install -f
[03:19] <bdelin88> asus: same output
[03:19] <asus> ok try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:20] <Davedan> did anyone notice that flash 10 doesn't allow to access camera on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[03:20] <Gumby> sudo apt-get remove bandwidthd
[03:20] <mustangg> davedan - and that's a bad thing?
[03:20] <bdelin88> asus: new output says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114354/
[03:20] <erpo> Davedan: I didn't know that feature was ever supported on Linux.
[03:20] <Davedan> mustangg: yes because you can't use video chat
[03:20] <asus> you did a apt-get update after ?
[03:21] <Davedan> I guess it's an adobe bug
[03:21] <bnagy> .. also, on my eee 1000h I sometimes get repeated characters while I'm typing, and it's not me, is there some OS setting I might be able to tweak or it is probably hardware?
[03:21] <mustangg> ah, interesting.
[03:21] <bdelin88> asus: doing apt-get update now
[03:21] <asus> then apt-get upgrade
[03:21] <bdelin88> asus: yep doin that too
[03:22] <kattollikisd> Quicken2k, the 8.04, yes. it was hard to put it in the PC.. but I did it. I want to installl the 8.10 but it do not boot well... so im afraid to do the upgrade
[03:22] <bdelin88> asus: the bandwidthd package is messed up from the start, it's ridiculous
[03:22] <asus> and you tried to remove it ?
[03:22] <bdelin88> it just said that from the start
[03:22] <bdelin88> here's the new output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114356/
[03:23] <asus> are you running 8.10 ?
[03:23] <bdelin88> asus: yes
[03:24] <[R]> i just helped a friend install ubuntu and now he is getting this error message: http://dpaste.com/117278/
[03:24] <asus> did you do all your updates first thing ?
[03:24] <bdelin88> asus: yes
[03:24] <ryanprior> My screen keeps going blank when I'm not using mouse+keyboard but I'm watching a movie, or spectating in a fullscreen game, or something. How do I stop that?
[03:24] <mortici> [R]: type: dpkg --configure -a
[03:25] <bdelin88> asus: can't i just tell it to let go of this thing i mean crap
[03:25] <mortici> like it says to fix the problem :)
[03:25] <[R]> mortici: we did... hence 'and the result of running the dpkg command specifed'...
[03:25] <mortici> [R]: oh wait
[03:25] <mortici> do
[03:25] <asus> what is the full package name ?
[03:25] <mortici> [R]: sudo apt-get install libc6
[03:26] <bdelin88> asus: bandwidthd_2.0.1+cvs20071208-3_i386.deb
[03:26] <mortici> [R]: weird that it did that usually it would install the dependencies first....
[03:26] <bdelin88> asus: it keeps saying it fails becase of init.d stuff
[03:26] <[R]> mortici: shouldn't libc6 be installed?
[03:26] <asus> can you find the package under synaptic package manager
[03:26] <bdelin88> asus: sry, it says it fails cuz of update-rc.d
[03:26] <c0d1g0> hello :)
[03:27] <bdelin88> asus: this is the server, i assume u mean just checking the apt folder?
[03:27] <mortici> [R]: try to install it, if it is it will tellyou
[03:27] <nickrud> bdelin88, look at line 19 in /etc/init.d/bandwithd , there appears to be a syntax error there.
[03:27] <mortici> [R]: but according to that error, it states its not installed
[03:27] <SxNDave> ryanprior: Try going to "System > Preferences > Screensaver" and increasing the idle time.
[03:27] <firehazard17> when using ssh and irssi how do you keep from it disconnecting when you close the terminal on the client?
[03:27] <asus> ok try sudo apt-get remove -purge [package name]
[03:28] <asus> that should remove everything
[03:28] <bdelin88> nickrud: yea i don't care anymore i just want to kill this thing
[03:28] <ryanprior> SxNDave: My screensaver is disabled. This is a monitor power-off, not "black screen" with power.
[03:28] <firehazard17> ctrl + z?
[03:28] <bdelin88> asus: yea i see it in apt archives, i am gonna purge it
[03:28] <nickrud> asus, that will fail as well. bdelin88 put a copy of /var/lib/dpkg/info/bandwidthd.prerm on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:28] <jrib> !screen | firehazard17
[03:28] <risefromashes> is there a way to put a password on the ktorrent application when it is in tray mode?
[03:28] <[R]> mortici: http://dpaste.com/117281/
[03:29] <KDE4000> lol its [R] again
[03:29] <bdelin88> nickrud: k, doing that
[03:29]  * KDE4000 has seen [R] everywhere
[03:29] <firehazard17> jrib: is there a screen package in FreeBSD?
[03:29] <fluitfries> can i get "Screen Zoom" for xubuntu the same way it's provided in Mac OS X?
[03:29] <SxNDave> ryanprior: in the same menu goto Power Management and extend the display sleep time.
[03:29] <firehazard17> i could not find it so easily
[03:29] <jrib> firehazard17: probably.  Ask the freebsd channel?
[03:29] <mortici> [R]: try: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:30] <jrib> !away > JamesMowery
[03:30] <ryanprior> SxNDave: It's already set to 11 minutes, but I'm definitely not waiting 11 minutes before it goes blank. More like 1 minute.
[03:30] <mortici> [R]: if that doesn't work try: sudo apt-get -f install libc6
[03:30] <bdelin88> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114361/
[03:31] <Meshezabeel> Found out the problem...it is pictures that crash firefox, for example: http://nikamo.org/crash_bandacoot  (don't go there if you don't want your browser to close).
[03:31] <mortici> [R]: the beauty of most errors, they tell you exactly what it the problem is and most of the time how to fix it :)
[03:31] <SxNDave> ryanprior: Sorry outside of that I don't know where else it might be caused.
[03:31] <Meshezabeel> Found out the problem...it is pictures that crash firefox, for example: http://nikamo.org/crash_bandacoot.jpg  (don't go there if you don't want your browser to close).
[03:31] <nickrud> bdelin88, gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/bandwidthd.prerm , put    exit 0   on line 4, then run the apt-get remove again
[03:31] <Meshezabeel> sorry, wrong link first time
[03:32] <mustangg> Could anyone tell me what circumstances could cause genisoimage to  generate an error "permission denied"
[03:32] <nickrud> bdelin88, run apt-get purge , actually
[03:32] <ryanprior> SxNDave: I can't figure anything out today. Here's another problem: I can't figure out where the GUI is to share folder using Samba and NFS. Also, I can't find the GUI to tell the keyboard which keys should be "compose" keys. I know both those exist, but I've checked every menu and I can't find them.
[03:33] <mortici> mustangg: might not be int he proper group to use said app, since it might use other apps that can only be accessed by root, or a certain group
[03:33] <mobodo> what do you guys use for remote monitoring?  I'm probably looking for an apache module to get network/cpu/ram/user usage info from outside.
[03:33] <SxNDave> ryanprior: definately way outta my league there...
[03:33] <bdelin88> nickrud: ...genious man
[03:33] <bdelin88> nickrud: absolute genious!
[03:33] <cast|lir> mobodo: ssh host top, and users complaining
[03:33] <bdelin88> nickrud: genius*
[03:34] <nickrud> bdelin88, not really ;)
[03:34] <eatThisAndDie> mobodo: tried nagios?
[03:34] <eatThisAndDie> or is that overkill..?
[03:34] <bdelin88> nickrud: hey i have1 probably easy question as well, u have another sec?
[03:34] <nickrud> bdelin88, if I know the answer. My knowledge is narrow but shallow ;)
[03:35] <mobodo> eatThisAndDie: it it's free, it's not overkill
[03:35] <bdelin88> nickrud: haha ok, do u have any experience with apache2 or at least with chmod stuff?
[03:35] <nickrud> bdelin88, some
[03:35] <eatThisAndDie> mobodo: Yeah.... then get nagios
[03:36] <bdelin88> nickrud: well... i have set up virtual hosting, and then i added [user] to the group "www-data" and i want him to have 775 permissions
[03:36] <bdelin88> nickrud: well everything seems to work, but when i use filezilla ftp client....
[03:37] <bdelin88> nickrud: i can create and delete directories just fine, but if i drag stuff (i.e. new directories into existing directories) then it says it does not have permission to create those new directories
[03:37] <bdelin88> however, it works just fine when i drag things into my user's home folder
[03:37] <bdelin88> nickrud: it's really frustrating
[03:37] <[R]> mortici: ok, thanks... looks like its all good now
[03:37] <mortici> [R]: great to hear, good luck and have fun :)
[03:38] <orudie> can someone recommend a webmail  ?
[03:38] <SxNDave> orudie http://www.gmail.com
[03:39] <keith_> so  I am on a dell inspiron 9200 - i am having major sound issues
[03:39] <keith_> it feels like all sound is coming out of the bass speaker
[03:39] <nickrud> bdelin88, no, I'm not sure what's going on there. I have ssh access to all the servers I use, so I don't use those gui file transfer programs
[03:39] <keith_> i can not mute or control the volume
[03:39] <orudie> SxNDave, i am looking for a webmail to install on ubuntu server
[03:39] <tritium> orudie: squirrelmail
[03:39] <SxNDave> orudie sorry my bad
[03:39] <bdelin88> nickrud: heh, how do u do it without gui? just console?
[03:40] <nickrud> bdelin88, yep
[03:40] <yavapai> cant mount ext3 usb hard drive
[03:40] <keith_> anybody have any idea?
[03:40] <tritium> orudie: "apt-cache search webmail" for any other ideas
[03:40] <bdelin88> nickrud: yea well i have no idea how to connect without a gui to my remote server
[03:40] <xonpathos> anybody ever run across the problem where your usb mouse stays on after your computer shuts down?
[03:41] <nickrud> bdelin88, if it's yours, install openssh-server on it :)
[03:41] <mustangg> mortici - so even if I run it as sudo ?
[03:41] <bdelin88> nickrud: hmm might have to do that, easy to use?
[03:41] <yavapai> how to  mount a usb hard drive ext3 format
[03:41] <bdelin88> nickrud: ooh and it works now btw :)
[03:41] <yavapai> used to work with ubuntu
[03:41] <bdelin88> nickrud: can you recommend a good program to sync files between client and server?
[03:42] <bdelin88> nickrud: i would like to maintain a small directory of notes...nightly if possible and without having to do it myself
[03:42] <On0bi> when does the new version release?
[03:42] <nickrud> bdelin88, I haven't had a use for that, but I understand rsync is popular
[03:43] <bdelin88> nickrud: i did "sudo chown -R [user] /var/www/ THEN sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www
[03:43] <tritium> On0bi: April (hence the "4" in .04)
[03:43] <On0bi> oic
[03:43] <bdelin88> nickrud: and now it works, and i'll check into rsync, thanks :)
[03:43] <yavapai> how can ext3 usb drives be broke
[03:43] <bdelin88> nickrud: oh neat, i already have openssh
[03:43] <wikkedfin> how stable is ubuntu server 8.04?
[03:43] <bdelin88> nickrud: ...and rsync lol
[03:44] <bdelin88> wikkedfin: well it's not a beta.... if that's what u men :-P
[03:44] <bdelin88> wikkedfin: i am using intrepid and i like it
[03:44] <wikkedfin> server edition?
[03:44] <bdelin88> wikkedfin: mean*
[03:44] <bdelin88> wikkedfin: yes, 8.10 server with apache2 and all that
[03:45] <wikkedfin> whats your website?
[03:45] <wikkedfin> pm me it
[03:45] <smoking_gun> whats the name of the ubuntu control center?
[03:45] <mustangg> yavapai - I've a usb key on my desk formatted ext3 also. it had to be the only partition on the device for mounting purposes otherwise if it had more it failed
[03:45] <roccity_> smoking_gun: isn't it gnome-control-center
[03:46] <tritium> smoking_gun: nothing
[03:47] <[R]> what's the name of kde's im client
[03:47] <smoking_gun> also, does ubuntu use kde and gnome or just gnome ?
[03:47] <rubiks> hey need some help
[03:47] <prince_jammys> [R]: kopete
[03:47] <tritium> smoking_gun: ubuntu: gnome, kubuntu: kde
[03:47] <roccity_> [R]: itls kopete
[03:48] <rubiks> any one play CSS
[03:48] <anki_veela> how do i open ports for a web disk??
[03:48] <bdelin88> nickrud: thanks for ur help btw
[03:48] <smoking_gun> :) cool thnx..
[03:48] <linuxman410> how do you enable hyperthreading in ubuntu
[03:48] <smoking_gun> another thing.. in console how do i use root privileges?
[03:48] <tritium> smoking_gun: with sudo
[03:48] <scunizi> anki_veela: a web disk?  what's a web disk?
[03:48] <[R]> linuxman410: it should use it by default
[03:48] <smoking_gun> ok .. thank u
[03:48] <smoking_gun> appreciate it
[03:49] <linuxman410> ok thanks
[03:49] <tritium> smoking_gun: no problem
[03:50] <rubiks> i have been playing CSS sometimes it run fine for 30 mins and then sometime 2 mins but always ends in hard lock up can do nothing but reset on the box help needed
[03:50] <scunizi> rubiks: I don't know what css is but if you have effects turned on that might be interfearing.
[03:51] <rubiks> counter strike source no effects on
[03:51] <smoking_gun> mm in Screen Resolution i can only choose from 800x600 and 640x480.. how can i change to 1200x1000 ?
[03:51] <Matr|X> how to read and edait some thing into executable file
[03:51] <WebcamWonder> Is there a flag to cherry pick updates for aptitude?
[03:51] <anki_veela> first i need to enable ports
[03:51] <anki_veela> how do i do that
[03:51] <Matr|X> how to read and edait some thing into executable file  ( application/x-executable )
[03:51] <rubiks> be back soon
[03:51] <roccity_> smoking_gun: you can go to a console and try X -configure as root
[03:51] <jrib> Matr|X: you need to be a little more specific as to what you are trying to do...
[03:52] <scunizi> Matr|X: chmod +x <filename>
[03:52] <russia213> GRUB Geome error...help?
[03:52] <smoking_gun> so type su -c X -configure?
[03:52] <roccity_> Im not sure how to do it with x running though
[03:52] <rubiks> yeah back
[03:52] <Matr|X> tis chmod +x * for  make it exc
[03:52] <durt> !web disk
[03:52] <scunizi> yes
[03:52] <rubiks> is there ubuntu gamer irc
[03:52] <tritium> smoking_gun: no, don't do that
[03:53] <tritium> smoking_gun: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, please
[03:53] <roccity_> smoking_gun: add the modes by hand in your xorg fileyou can
[03:53] <scunizi> rubiks: you could try ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux.. there also might be an direct irc channel for css
[03:53] <Matr|X> application/x-executable    <<<
[03:53] <Timslin> how do i join the Fedora room?
[03:53] <Matr|X> this file i want to change into it
[03:53] <jrib> Matr|X: state what you want to do in full sentences please
[03:53] <scunizi> Timslin: /join #<roomname>
[03:53] <Matr|X> ok
[03:53] <roccity_> smoking_gun: oh yeah tritium idea is better
[03:53] <rubiks> ok thanks ill try it thanks
[03:54] <roccity_> tritium: sorry forgot bout that command
[03:54] <tritium> roccity_: no worries!
[03:54] <Carefree[mib]> hey
[03:54] <Carefree[mib]> How do you enable write to HFS+?
[03:55] <SxNDave> rubiks: if you are running it under wine you could try the forums at http://www.winehq.org
[03:55] <Conmiro> i really need help
[03:55] <Conmiro> i really need help pls
[03:55] <tritium> !ask | Conmiro
[03:55] <Conmiro> I have acer aspireone netbook
[03:55] <Conmiro> oh
[03:55] <Conmiro> ok
[03:55] <tritium> all on ONE line, please, Conmiro
[03:56] <Conmiro> I have an acer aspireone netbook and I installed ubuntu and wireless internet does not work on it but wired does but I need wireless to work.
[03:56] <smoking_gun> i didnt set a root password, not that i can remember.. how do i find it out or reset it? unbuntu 8.10 ?
[03:56] <tritium> smoking_gun: ubuntu disables the root account.  Hence the use of sudo
[03:56] <mortici> Conmiro: what kind of wireless card?
[03:56] <Carefree[mib]> I installed hfsplus and I can access the HFS partition, but even under root, there is no write....
[03:57] <Conmiro> Wireless G
[03:57] <smoking_gun> it asks for a password tho.
[03:57] <mortici> Conmiro: make and model...
[03:57] <smoking_gun> and my user pass doesnt work
[03:57] <node357> smoking_gun, use your own password with sudo
[03:57] <tritium> smoking_gun: sudo uses the users's password
[03:57] <Matr|X> i want to make some change for this file pscan2
[03:57] <scunizi> smoking_gun: that would be your normal user password
[03:57] <Carefree[mib]> smoking_gun: you can give root a password
[03:57] <tritium> Carefree[mib]: we don't recommend that
[03:57] <smoking_gun> how?
[03:57] <mortici> Carefree[mib]: what tritium said
[03:57] <Matr|X> how can i read data in this file to change some thing ther pscan2
[03:57] <tritium> !rootsudo | smoking_gun
[03:58] <bdelin88> hey anyone know anything about servers and why the memory on my server seems to decrease as the day goes on? lol... there REALLY isn't much traffic besides myself
[03:58] <mortici> bdelin88: memory leak?
[03:58] <[R]> bdelin88: what do you mean it decreases?
[03:58] <Conmiro> Is someone still helping me?
[03:58] <mortici> bdelin88: have you checked whats using up all the memory?
[03:58] <mortici> Conmiro: make and model of the wireless card...
[03:58] <bdelin88> mortici: well i mean all it is used for is to serve 2-3 webpages
[03:58] <Conmiro> I dont know
[03:58] <scunizi> bdelin88: 'cause it's not "anticipating" and learning your habits with it?
[03:58] <Carefree[mib]> Is there some sort of utility for HFS?
[03:58] <Matr|X> how can i read the data into this file pscan2 all this files i cant change ?
[03:58] <bdelin88> mortici: and it has 1gb or ram
[03:59] <mortici> Conmiro: like say Intel IPW2200 or Netgear Wireless G ver 4
[03:59] <linuxman410> having a problem with compiz-fusion when i enable desktop effects the brown part of open windows disappears
[03:59] <russia213> How do I COMPLETELY get rid of GRUB?
[03:59] <roccity_> Commie_Cary: you can try the compat-wireless drivers
[03:59] <mortici> Conmiro: what is the make and model of the laptop
[03:59] <bdelin88> mortici: it has 446mb tied up in who knows what right now...
[03:59] <tritium> Conmiro: I suggest you try here first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[03:59] <[R]> russia213: and replace it with...
[03:59] <mortici> bdelin88: ok, so whats using up all the memory
[03:59] <Conmiro> i did
[03:59] <scunizi> russia213: what are you going to replace it with?
[03:59] <Conmiro> i dont understand it
[03:59] <jtaji> bdelin88: do you know how to read the output of free properly? what's the second line of numbers in 'free -m' say?
[03:59] <bdelin88> mortici: no idea, is there a command to see the distribution of memory
[04:00] <mortici> Conmiro: im not sure what you mean, can you give me the make and model of the laptop your using?
[04:00] <bdelin88> jtaji: yes i am noticing this memory leak or whatever with "free" and I also have "cacti" installed for graphical monitoring
[04:00] <roccity_> Commie_Cary: did you try the compat-wireless drivers or what tritium said
[04:00] <Conmiro> yes
[04:00] <russia213> [R]: either lilo or I'm giving up on Ubuntu
[04:00] <scunizi> russia213: everything has a boot manager.. even if you can see it like on windows..
[04:00] <tritium> Conmiro: what part don't you understand?
[04:00] <Conmiro> Acer Aspireone Netbook, the only model
[04:00] <[R]> russia213: just install and setup lilo, and that will replace grub
[04:00] <Conmiro> .the whole thing in the box
[04:00] <mortici> bdelin88: you can use top to see the most active list of processes
[04:00] <mortici> bdelin88: 'top'
[04:00] <bdelin88> jtaji: the buffer line says "124/883 free"
[04:00] <mortici> Conmiro: hold on lemme do some searching
[04:01] <Conmiro> mabey i paste it in a terminal?
[04:01] <Conmiro> 0.0 its donig something
[04:01] <jtaji> bdelin88: so you have 124 used, and 883 free
[04:01] <jtaji> sounds about right
[04:01] <bdelin88> jtaji yea... but that's not what top says
[04:01] <mortici> Conmiro: paste what? and what is doing what? lol
[04:01] <bdelin88> jtaji: sry... "yea...but that's not what top says"
[04:01] <Conmiro> mortici: i think i figured it out mabey
[04:01] <jtaji> bdelin88: top doesn't subtract out memory used for buffers and cache
[04:01] <jtaji> !memory | bdelin88
[04:01] <mortici> bdelin88: jtaji is correct
[04:02] <nbuntu> hey
[04:02] <mortici> bdelin88: i forgot about that
[04:02] <bdelin88> mortici: alright then... i guess too much use to windows :)
[04:02] <jtaji> meh that's a dead link
[04:02] <nbuntu> can someone help me with screenlets?
[04:03] <Conmiro> ok
[04:03] <Conmiro> i still need help but i gtg
[04:03] <Conmiro> if you find any information, can you send it to me at conmiro@live.com
[04:03] <Conmiro> Please and thanks for help!!!
[04:03] <scunizi> Conmiro: doing that is an invitation for spam
[04:04] <Conmiro> man....
[04:04] <Conmiro> can someone help me though
[04:04] <Conmiro> the spam is worth it if someone helps.
[04:04] <bdelin88> !unzip | bdelin88
[04:04] <mortici> Conmiro: go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne follow the directions for wireless card
[04:04] <bdelin88> poop
[04:04] <tritium> !enter | Conmiro (for future reference)
[04:04] <spooXe> please visit http://pages.ykt.ru/svalka/
[04:04] <tritium> bdelin88: mature language, please
[04:04] <mortici> Conmiro: relax, took me 30 seconds in a google search to find your answer :)
[04:04] <roccity_> Conmiro: private msg me and I will try and help
[04:04] <scunizi> !wireless | Conmiro
[04:04] <russia213> Where do I download lilo? the "official" wesite is down"
[04:04] <bdelin88> lol p**p?
[04:05] <nbuntu> One particular screenlet (watermarks) wont show up in the Screenlets Dialog window after installng - plz help
[04:05] <Conmiro> ok
[04:05] <Conmiro> im leaving email any additional info
[04:06] <mortici> Wow... that is one confusing, impatient dude...
[04:06] <mortici> russia213: you can just apt-get it
[04:06] <mortici> russia213: sudo apt-get install lilo
[04:07] <linuxman410> how do i shut down x
[04:07] <josesito> is there any way to send a message using xmessage to a logged user on a remote pc via ssh? (the ssh user is root and the logged user there is "user" using gnome)
[04:08] <[R]> josesito: su to the user DISPLAY=:0 xmessage
[04:08] <josesito> linuxman410: sudo poweroff
[04:08] <tritium> linuxman410: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[04:09] <scunizi> josesito: yes.. but for the life of me I can't remember. should be the same as sending a message to another machine on a lan..
[04:10] <josesito> scunizi: and how do you do that?
[04:10] <jeeves_Moss> when is the new ubuntu out?
[04:10] <jeeves_Moss> or can I get the bleeding edge release?
[04:11] <josesito> [R]: i'm getting bash: !": event not found
[04:11] <scunizi> josesito: http://www.htmlforums.com/unix-administration/t-send-message-to-another-terminal-64292.html
[04:11] <redvamp128> jeeves_Moss:  bleeding edge is jaunty-- though it is alpha
[04:12] <Chaorain> I am trying to expand an XFS partition but I can't I can move but not expand or contract help? (it is unmounted and I'm useing a live cd
[04:12] <jeeves_Moss> redvamp128, ok, what's the latest release?
[04:12] <josesito> scunizi: i guess that's using wall, but the user isn't using any terminal
[04:12] <[R]> josesito: what ar eyou running
[04:12] <josesito> [R]: DISPLAY=:0 xmessage "Message"
[04:12] <scunizi> josesito: sorry I'm not well versed in this.. google was my friend there.
[04:12] <jeeves_Moss> redvamp128, I'm just sick of the screen lock ups with compiz, so I was thinking I could force this box up to the next release
[04:12] <josesito> scunizi: :D thanks anyway
[04:12] <redvamp128> jeeves_Moss:  Jaunty Jackalope Alpha 2 | Ubuntu <http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha2>
[04:13] <redvamp128> jeeves_Moss:  it may actually make that condition worse
[04:13] <tritium> redvamp128: alpha 4 is the latest, actually
[04:13] <scunizi> josesito: np.. It's cool to do things like that when there's a need.. might shock the other person as well..
[04:13] <redvamp128> ahh well that is the one I had bookmarked
[04:13] <jeeves_Moss> redvamp128, hummmm, the guys in the #compiz channel were a help, but I'm thinking it's a problem with firefox and the e-mail client locking things up
[04:13] <[R]> josesito: and there is a ! in the message?
[04:14] <josesito> [R]: nope
[04:14] <josesito> oh, no!! yes there is :D
[04:14] <[R]> lol
[04:14] <josesito> [R]: shouldn't it be any ! in the message?
[04:15] <dnyy> I can't seem to get my mic to work correctly.  No matter what app I use (have tried sound-recorder and skype so far) my voice sounds 4x as slow when it plays back.  Any ideas why?
[04:15] <josesito> whoa that worked :D:D:D
[04:15] <josesito> thanks [R], if you know how to make the message bigger it'd be perfect! :D
[04:16] <[R]> josesito: make it bigger?
[04:17] <mortici> josesito: you can make it pop up by the mouse if you wish
[04:17] <mortici> but i don't think there is a way to enlarge the msg
[04:17] <josesito> mortici: yeah the -nearmouse
[04:17] <josesito> [R]: yup
[04:18] <josesito> mortici: i'm reading there something related to geometry to make the window larger
[04:18] <urthmover> What is the best practices if I compile and build a new version of nmap....where should I keep the folder and how do I add it to the PATH?
[04:18] <josesito> that would be cool >:D  so there isn't anything else to read
[04:18] <josesito> :D
[04:18] <cast|lir> urthmover: i suggest you use stow,
[04:19] <cast|lir> urthmover: best practices is to do your screwing around only in /usr/local :)
[04:19] <whitt> good evening.  I just finished with a fresh install of intrepid, and how found that whenever i am playing music in rhythmbox, it pauses the music whenever my wife logs in on her side.
[04:19] <urthmover> cast|lir: so is stow an application?
[04:19] <whitt> whenever i switch back to my side, the music resumes
[04:19] <cast|lir> urthmover: that it is.
[04:19] <cast|lir> urthmover: very useful if you're installing things from source
[04:19] <urthmover> cast|lir: thanks I'll check it out....and consider moving things to /usr/local
[04:20] <scunizi> josesito: did you figure it out?
[04:20] <urthmover> cast|lir: cool  I'll check it out now  thanks for the help
[04:20] <mortici> whitt: What do you mean like switch users?
[04:20] <josesito> scunizi: the window size? or the message?
[04:20] <scunizi> josesito: message
[04:20] <whitt> mortici, yes, user the fast user switching,
[04:20] <josesito> scunizi: yeah
[04:21] <scunizi> josesito: how do you do it.. also is it from one linux machine to another or can it also be done from linux to win?
[04:21] <xxCody> Hello you guys im trying to hook up xbox live through my laptop but when i plug in the ethernet cord it does not pick up the internet connection. Any suggestions?
[04:21] <josesito> scunizi: su user, then DISPLAY=:0 xmessage "Hullo world"
[04:21] <sdlwof> can i set up ubuntu to use two monitors with any video card/drivers? or speical stuff needed?
[04:22] <WebcamWonder> !dualscreen
[04:22] <prince_jammys> josesito: xmessage -geometry 270x380 hello
[04:22] <scunizi> josesito: while connected to the other machine via ssh?
[04:22] <mortici> whitt: it seems its the way it works...
[04:22] <josesito> scunizi: that will only work from linux to linux since it usses xmessage. but i think you can also send winpopup messages to win machines
[04:22] <josesito> scunizi: yup
[04:22] <sdlwof> !dualscreen
[04:22] <josesito> prince_jammys: thanks!! :D
[04:22] <whitt> mortici, i've never had that happen on any other distro
[04:22] <scunizi> josesito: nice.. thanks..
[04:22] <mortici> hmmmm
[04:22] <xxCody> Hello you guys im trying to hook up xbox live through my laptop but when i plug in the ethernet cord it does not pick up the internet connection. Any suggestions?
[04:22] <russia213> If GRUB was installed on my external hard drive, how do I take it off?
[04:23] <mortici> whitt: so you were able to run rhythmbox, and switch users and the music would continue on other distros?
[04:23] <Jordan_U> xxCody: How are you trying to share the connection?
[04:23] <whitt> mortici, exactly
[04:23] <xxCody> I know nothing sorry bro. Just plug and tryed to play. Starting from scratch.
[04:23] <xxCody> The network im on is shared.
[04:23] <xxCody> Thats all i know.,
[04:24] <tritium> xxCody: are you plugging it into a laptop running ubuntu?
[04:24] <mortici> whitt: lemme look into it, gimmie a sec
[04:24] <josesito> scunizi: to windows use samba and do smbclient -M NetBIOS name and you'll be in a chat-like mode where you can actually chat
[04:24] <sdlwof> will nvidia drivers work with intel graphics accelerator 900?
[04:24] <whitt> mortici, thanks
[04:24] <mortici> whitt: was this under gnome or kde that it worked?
[04:24] <tritium> sdlwof: no
[04:24] <Jordan_U> xxCody: Ok, I am guessing that the laptop is connected via wireless to the internet, and you want to share that connection via ethernet to the xbox. Correct? And what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:24] <xxCody> tritium yes
[04:24] <scunizi> josesito: interesting..
[04:24] <josesito> scunizi: oh, that works if the server computer is running winpopup
[04:24] <ramirand_> sdlwof: I've used two monitors with both a single nvidia card (9600GT) and with two old, cheap, crappy ATI cards.
[04:25] <xxCody> Jordan yes and 8.10
[04:25] <whitt> mortici, well i know it worked whenever i installed kubuntu, and opensuse, but in opensuse i used gnome,
[04:25] <sdlwof> this is a laptop
[04:25] <xxCody> Newest one just rescently download
[04:25] <sdlwof> ramirand_, this is a laptop
[04:25] <ramirand_> sdlwof: nvidia drivers will work only with nvidia cards, as far as I know.
[04:25] <mortici> whitt: ok give me a sec
[04:25] <sdlwof> i can't find anything on ubuntu's website for drivers for this graphics media accelerator 900
[04:26] <sdlwof> let alone dual view
[04:26] <scunizi> sdlwof: is it an intel card?
[04:26] <sdlwof> scunizi, yes
[04:26] <Jordan_U> xxCody: Ok, try going to System > Preferences > Networking and set the ethernet connection to "shared" ( and I won't see messages from you highlighted unless you use my full nick, you can hit tab and it will complete it )
[04:26] <xxCody> okay thank you. brb
[04:27] <russia213> If GRUB was installed on my external hard drive, how do I take it off?
[04:27] <sdlwof> i guess it's not possible.
[04:27] <scunizi> sdlwof: search synaptic for intel and you'll see the drivers.. typically they are already installed.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf should have intel listed as the driver..
[04:27] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  i click on edit on the network connection under wireless and there is no 'shared' option
[04:27] <Jordan_U> russia213: Install whatever boot loader ( like windows' ntldr ) you want over it
[04:28] <sdlwof> scunizi, there's no drivers to enable dual monitor support.
[04:28] <ramirand_> sdlwof: I found some info in the forums about using a laptop w/ intel graphics drivers. It's old info, though. I expect there's more out there. None of my laptops have that, tho.
[04:28] <sdlwof> scunizi, nor software to let me do it. it's nvidia/ati only by the looks of it?
[04:28] <tritium> sdlwof: xrandr is used for dual-monitor support
[04:29] <russia213> jordan_U: how would I do that with the external? (btw Ubuntu is installed on it)
[04:29] <scunizi> sdlwof: not sure but ubuntuforums.org should have  a reference for it.. intel is well supported..
[04:29] <SEVILLA> hey will an optical modeling program run in wine?
[04:29] <SEVILLA> hey will an optical modeling program run in wine?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> xxCody: I am not at an Ubuntu machine right now ( on my XO ) but the option should be there, possibly set a different way
[04:29] <WebcamWonder> SEVILLA: check appdb
[04:29] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  im looking hold on.
[04:30] <tritium> !xrandr | sdlwof
[04:30] <Jordan_U> SEVILLA: Depends on the program, check appdb
[04:30] <Jordan_U> !appdb | SEVILLA
[04:30] <sdlwof> ramirand_, what keywords did you use? i used intel monitor dual
[04:30] <zmanning> hey guys i just want to setup ubuntu so that my ps3 can see it as a media server.  any recommendations on software??
[04:30] <tritium> sdlwof: are you seeing what I'm sending you?
[04:30] <tritium> sdlwof: finally: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
[04:31] <ramirand_> sdlwof: I was just searching in google, for intel graphics 900.
[04:31] <russia213> jordan_U: How would I do that with the external? (btw Ubuntu is installed on said external)
[04:31] <Out_Cold> zmanning, i've been told that ubuntu can work on a ps3 and then you might be able to sftp
[04:31] <ramirand_> sdlwof: It might not cover dual monitors, though. Check into xrandr.
[04:32] <inx-live> i am so very pissed of at ubuntu
[04:32] <sdlwof> Package xrandr is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:32] <sdlwof> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:32] <sdlwof> is only available from another source
[04:32] <sdlwof> However the following packages replace it:
[04:32] <sdlwof>   x11-xserver-utils
[04:32] <FloodBot3> sdlwof: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <sdlwof> E: Package xrandr has no installation candidate
[04:32] <Out_Cold> cry a river inx-live
[04:32] <mortici> whitt: i can't seem to find any info on this
[04:32] <tritium> sdlwof: please read what I sent you
[04:32] <Jordan_U> russia213: Why do you want to remove GRUB? Unless you are using it when you boot from the external drive ( in which case you need it ) it shouldn't change anything
[04:33] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  heres what i got: under wireless tabb theres
[04:33] <ScottG489> Where do I go to set what program runs a a particular file extension?
[04:33] <sdlwof> well, i can't install it, apt-get won't let me.
[04:33] <inx-live> no seriously , i have had nothing but trouble with it for the past week and now the Damn X won't start
[04:33] <whitt> mortici, ok, well its darn annoying I know that.
[04:33] <tritium> sdlwof: did you read above?
[04:33] <zmanning> Out_Cold: ah sorry all i wanted to do we install software that would share my media so that the ps3 picks it up as a media center
[04:33] <sdlwof> yah
[04:33] <Chaorain> How do I resize my XFS partition?
[04:33] <sdlwof> says to install xrandr
[04:33] <sdlwof> won't let me
[04:33] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  ssid:mode:bssid:man addy:mtu..under wireless security its just the type no shared and ipv4 tab is method set to dhcp
[04:34] <sdlwof> saysi  need xrandr to do it. and i can't install it, apt-get pukes with errors.
[04:34] <scunizi> sdlwof: xrandr is already installed
[04:34] <whitt> mortici, thank you very much for researching.  i couldn't find anything either
[04:34] <mortici> whitt: it seems
[04:34] <mortici> whitt: that is suspends the app, and resumes on login....
[04:34] <Mood> if i have 8.10 ubuntu server edition, can i install xfce?
[04:34] <sdlwof> no it's not
[04:35] <inx-live> so screw it , i'm going to puppy linux - i can't figure out why you people like this shity system anyway
[04:35] <Jordan_U> xxCody: You should be looking at the ethernet interface rather than the wireless interface
[04:35] <whitt> mortici, i wonder why it would do that?
[04:35] <Mood> what packages should i install for xfce on top of ubuntu 8.10 server edition?
[04:35] <sdlwof> i'm using the latest ubuntu, says xrandr is not avaible anymore
[04:35] <sdlwof> do i need to compile it?
[04:35] <scunizi> Mood: sure.. you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for sure. but you might also be able to install xfce4 from the repos.
[04:35] <russia213> Can anyone help me make a Lilo boot disk?
[04:35] <Jordan_U> sdlwof: xrandr comes with ubuntu, no need to install anything
[04:35] <tritium> sdlwof: I never told you to install a package named "xrandr".  It's in another package that you already have installed by default.  Please read things more carefully.
[04:35] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  its set as Auth eht0. The xbox hasnt come up.
[04:35] <Mood> scunizi: so sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop xfce4 ?
[04:36] <oliver_> Any difference between Ubuntu and Debian besides release dates?
[04:36] <scunizi> sdlwof: try typing xrandr into a terminal and see what you get
[04:36] <tritium> sdlwof: I can't help you if you won't pay attention, and read more carefully
[04:36] <scunizi> Mood: leave the xfce4 off and do the rest
[04:36] <Jordan_U> oliver_: Ubuntu has different defaults, pulseadio and compiz installed and configured by default for instance
[04:37] <Mood> scunizi: cool. have you tried it btw?
[04:37] <mortici> whitt: im trying to see if theres something you can edit in gconf
[04:37] <sdlwof> spits out resoultion lines
[04:37] <mortici> whitt: how long ago has this worked?
[04:37] <scunizi> Mood: yep.. works fine.. now I'm playing with the terminal and screen.. screen lets you have multiple terminals in one..
[04:37] <Chaorain> How do I resize my XFS partition?
[04:38] <whitt> mortici, i was looking, and i think it has to do with pulse audio.  the last version of ubuntu i used wasn't using pulse audio
[04:38] <cast|lir> scunizi: if screen is too bloated for you, detech is nice
[04:38] <Mood> scunizi: nice. thank you kind sir. kind of like xemacs w/ multiple terminals
[04:38] <scunizi> Mood: probably..
[04:38] <mortici> whitt: might be the problem
[04:38] <cast|lir> Chaorain: if the underlying volume is big enough, iirc it's xfs_grow
[04:38] <mortici> whitt: lemme see something real quick
[04:38] <whitt> mortici, ok
[04:38] <ninjasense> i have an offtopic question for you guys
[04:38] <Mood> scunizi: i heard if you install xfce4 by itself, there are some dependencies that get munged.
[04:39] <Out_Cold> Chaorain, try googling 'xfs resize ubuntu' you'll probably get more luck
[04:39] <Jordan_U> ninjasense: You might try #ubuntu-offtopic then :)
[04:39] <ninjasense> does anyone know a word for someone not easily replaced in the workplace
[04:39] <scunizi> Mood: that one I've never tied by itself
[04:39] <ninjasense> oops ok
[04:39] <mortici> whitt: do you have pulseaudio installed right now?
[04:39] <cast|lir> dtach, sorry :)
[04:39] <mortici> whitt: ima create a new user real quick and switch and see if it does it for me
[04:39] <Mood> scunizi: ok. i'm convinced that xubuntu-desktop's the way to go. thanks again! :-)
[04:39] <whitt> mortici, i am assuming it is installed by default in this new version
[04:40] <mortici> whitt: not necessarily
[04:40] <scunizi> Mood: sure.. you could also do ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop.. but xubuntu is lighter weight and faster
[04:40] <oliver_> How do I use compiz?
[04:40] <mortici> whitt: brb lemme test this
[04:40] <Mood> scunizi: yep- i mostly run a xubuntu myself, but desktop version. i love it.
[04:41] <whitt> mortici, thanks
[04:41] <gavic> hello
[04:41] <x_> where would my wireless driver be located?
[04:41] <scunizi> Mood: when you sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop you actually have the entire desktop version with the exception of the kernel.. that remains the server
[04:41] <mortici> whitt: ok it works fine over here
[04:41] <sdlwof> i typed xrandr -output VGA left-of LVDS and it just flickers the screen.
[04:41] <mortici> whitt: go to System -> Preferences -> Sound
[04:42] <whitt> mortici, ok, there
[04:42] <mortici> whitt: tell me if its set to pulse audio for anything
[04:42] <sdlwof> that makes my 2nd monitor to the left of my vga?
[04:42] <whitt> mortici, autodetect
[04:42] <Mood> scunizi: ah... and all the server stuff, i.e. LAMP, ssh, ftp, etc
[04:42] <unop> sdlwof, the command is incorrect and incomplete - you need to use the right flags there
[04:42] <scunizi> Mood: if that stuff is already installed it remains
[04:43] <mortici> whitt: hmmm
[04:43] <sdlwof> oh, forgot a -    xrandr --output VGA --left-of LVDS
[04:43] <Mood> scunizi: yup. hence my logic of first installing server edition stuff for all the services. and just xubuntu-desktop for the GUI eye candy
[04:43] <sdlwof> same result.
[04:43] <scunizi> Mood: you could actually do it either way.
[04:44] <xxCody1> Jordan_U:  im back tryed reseting the connection.
[04:44] <Mood> scunizi: i'll let ya know if it blows up on me over the next day or two ;-)
[04:44] <mortici> whitt: ok... is everything set to autodetect?
[04:45] <sdlwof> i did a copy and paste to make sure there was no typos.
[04:45] <whitt> mortici, yes, except for sound capture, and that is ALSA
[04:45] <mortici> ok
[04:45] <mortici> set the default mixer to whatever your sound card is (alsa mixer)
[04:45] <russia213> Can I get some help making a Lilo boot disk?
[04:45] <mortici> then close out and launch synaptics
[04:46] <whitt> mortici, ok
[04:46] <mortici> russia213: like a floppy or on the HDD
[04:46] <mortici> whitt: once you got the package manger running search for pulseaudio
[04:46] <russia213> mortici: Floppy, I don't know where exactly to download from
[04:46] <Mood> scunizi: after installing xubuntu-desktop, just restart x session with "xinit", right?
[04:46] <whitt> mortici, done
[04:47] <scunizi> Mood: yep
[04:47] <anima_> I installed SeaMonkey stuff with the add/remove.  When I go to uninstall it with the package manager, it says it can't remove it to use the package manager.  What do I do now to remove it, please?
[04:47] <mortici> whitt: also can you tell me if your in the "audio" group by typing 'groups' into a console without the ' '
[04:47] <Mood> scunizi: cool
[04:47] <mortici> russia213: did you install lilo?
[04:47] <mortici> on the pc?
[04:47] <phantomcircuit> I want to get vlc 0.9.8a is there a package available?
[04:48] <Chaorain> Can you help my with xfs_growfs? I want to expan /media/disk 12417 MB toward the begining of the disk
[04:48] <whitt> mortici, no i am not
[04:48] <xxCody1> What is auth eth0?
[04:48] <jedsen> xxCody1: what?
[04:48] <russia213> mortici: I need help with that
[04:48] <tavo> hi, How do I know if I installed my sound card's controller properly?
[04:48] <jedsen> tavo: you hear sound
[04:48] <xxCody1> under connection for the internet for wired it says auth eth0..?
[04:48] <mortici> russia213: go here http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-8.html
[04:49] <xxCody1> in ubuntu of course....
[04:49] <anima_> jedsen:  BWAHAHAHA
[04:49] <jedsen> xxCody1: it says auto eth0 yw
[04:49] <cast|lir> Chaorain: towards the beginning. lol. normally we grow things be moving the end
[04:49] <usser> phantomcircuit, i dont 0.9.8 is available for linux
[04:49] <xxCody1> No yw...
[04:49] <mortici> russia213: to install lilo type the follwoing in a shell: sudo apt-get install lilo
[04:49] <cast|lir> Chaorain: do you use lvm?
[04:49] <urthmover> cast|lir: WOW stow is really easy  thanks for the advice
[04:49] <xxCody1> just auth eth0?
[04:49] <mortici> whitt: ok that might also be the problem
[04:49] <jedsen> xxCody1: it says auto eth0 yw
[04:49] <mortici> whitt: lets add you to the goup
[04:49] <deadbattery> has anyone used litespeed?
[04:49] <whitt> mortici, ok i added myself to that group
[04:49] <xxCody1> jedsen:  theres no yw......
[04:49] <cast|lir> urthmover: it makes removing and adding shit to /usr/local/bin/ etc... trivial :)
[04:49] <jedsen> xxCody1: it says "auto eth0" yw
[04:49] <JPSman> HEELP!  :OD
[04:50] <mortici> whitt: go to System -> Administration -> Users and Group
[04:50] <sdlwof> xrandr --output VGA --left-of LVDS   my crt monitor isn't working. it's like it's still suspended. xrandr is showing no errors
[04:50] <jedsen> JPSman: what's the problem?
[04:50] <mortici> whitt: select Unlock on the bottom
[04:50] <mortici> highlight your name
[04:50] <xxCody1> Whats the yw? but yes it says auth eth0? what is that
[04:50] <jedsen> sdlwof: you've used gnome-monitor-settings?
[04:50] <Chaorain> cast|lir. i don't know what lvm is but tward the end is full. long story
[04:50] <xxCody1> jedsen:
[04:50] <jedsen> xxCody1: it says "auto eth0" yw
[04:50] <sdlwof> jedsen, not sure, i just typed the command in the terminal?
[04:50] <jedsen> xxCody1: read carefully
[04:50] <jedsen> sdlwof: it's in the preferences in gnome
[04:50] <tavo> jedsen: yes, but its a realtek 883 and I downloaded source files or something like that and I did all written on readme file that all I did
[04:50] <xxCody1> OKAY sorry :P auto eth0 what is that?
[04:51] <whitt> mortici, done
[04:51] <jedsen> xxCody1: your ethernet connection
[04:51] <mortici> whitt: hit edit, go to User Privileges, and add your self to use audio devices
[04:51] <jedsen> tavo: do you hear sound?
[04:51] <JPSman> The creative labs X-fi sound driver they released last year crashes Xserver.  I want to install an new sound card (an SB Live! - will it work?)  I cant seem to A.) uninstall the X-Fi driver and B.) Reinitialize the Nvidia Xserver
[04:51] <UndertakerX2> could some one help me install vmware tools in ubuntu(guest)
[04:51] <mortici> whitt: in theory you should be able to logout login launche rhythmbox and switch users and it should work fine
[04:51] <sdlwof> you mean screen resoution? i lcick it and it ust says laptop 17" in the corner now...
[04:51] <tavo> jedsen: yes I do :D
[04:51] <anima_> I installed SeaMonkey stuff with the add/remove.  When I go to uninstall it with the package manager, it says it can't remove it to use the package manager.  What do I do now to remove it, please?
[04:51] <jedsen> tavo: then it works! congrats
[04:51] <tavo> jedsen: that's enogh?
[04:51] <whitt> mortici, let me log out and try it
[04:52] <jedsen> tavo: should be
[04:52] <whitt> mortici, brb
[04:52] <sdlwof> oh, nm, window was behidn everything
[04:52] <mortici> whitt: k
[04:52] <cast|lir> Chaorain: dunno if you can grow xfs backwards, how much space is used in the partition, how big is the partition and how much free space do you want to add to it?
[04:52] <xxCody1> jedsen: Okay maybe you can help me. I am connected to the internet wirelessly.. I am in another room and want to connect my xbox to live using the wired cord ethernet cable i think. When i plug it into the computer from the xbox it will not connect
[04:52] <jedsen> xxCody1: is it plugged in?
[04:52] <jedsen> xxCody1: oh
[04:52] <xxCody1> Yes.
[04:52] <sdlwof> jedsen, it's stuck when i tried to turn it on...
[04:53] <sdlwof> app isn't responding
[04:53] <jedsen> xxCody1: i think you need to bridge the connection
[04:53] <jedsen> sdlwof: what app?
[04:53] <xxCody1> How do i do that in ubuntu.
[04:53] <tavo> jesen: thanks a lot :D
[04:53] <jedsen> xxCody1: umm, google it
[04:53] <sdlwof> monitor resolution settings
[04:53] <jedsen> sdlwof: ooh
[04:53] <sdlwof> jedsen, nothing is clickable, can't close the window
[04:53] <UndertakerX2> could some one help me install vmware tools in ubuntu(guest)
[04:53] <jedsen> sdlwof: not sure, close it and try again?
[04:54] <geoaxis> hello people i need ot instal libpython (2.5 version ) and there is none in the repoistory, it seems that installing one from source may mess with the system
[04:54] <sdlwof> jedsen, can't
[04:54] <Chaorain> cast|lir, I am getting this reformated so 420.19 gb unused and add 12gb
[04:54] <miller_> xxCody1: did you say you tried to plug your xbox directly into your computer?
[04:54] <russia213> mortici: Ok, now what?
[04:54] <sdlwof> jedsen, need to use pkill or something,
[04:54] <Chaorain> cast|lir, the hard drive is 500gb
[04:55] <jedsen> sdlwof: that's really odd, i'm guessing you have more problems than monitor settings
[04:55] <augustao> jedsen: hi
[04:55] <jedsen> augustao: hi u
[04:55] <ramirand_> xxCody1: So, you have an xbox, connected via ethernet cable to your computer, and your computer also has a WiFi connection to some access point, that can get to the internet?
[04:55] <anima_> I installed SeaMonkey stuff with the add/remove.  When I go to uninstall it with the package manager, it says it can't remove it to use the package manager.  What do I do now to remove it, please?
[04:55] <mortici> russia213: ...?http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-8.html go there and adjust as necessary for your system
[04:55] <augustao> jedsen: i gay the penis dick
[04:55] <jedsen> augustao: same
[04:55] <mortici> russia213: that guide allows you to boot the kernel from IDE which is very helpful
[04:55] <sdlwof> it's a laptop
[04:55] <jedsen> anima_: does it say to use apt-get or aptitude?
[04:55] <balzac> hello
[04:56] <augustao> gay the penis dick
[04:56] <balzac> I'm trying to start my vnc server (vino) from a shell
[04:56] <anima_> use "synaptic package manager"
[04:56] <mortici> russia213: just make sure the HDD version of lilo works, so set it up as needed
[04:56] <jedsen> anima_: there you go ^_^
[04:56] <oliver__> I accidentally clicked on the Remove from panel for one of my icons and it completely removed xchat, pidgin, and compiz icons.  How do i get it back?
[04:56] <JPSman> brb
[04:56] <Brenden> hi
[04:56] <anima_> uhm, is that what comes with this, because if it's not the one I'm trying to use, I have no idea what to do.
[04:57] <russia213> mortici: Could you help me with that?
[04:57] <balzac> I want to configure it, but gnome's ~/.gconf directory doesn't yet exist because nobody has ever used gnome on this machine.
[04:57] <jedsen> oliver__: find them in the menu, then right click and go "add to panel"
[04:57] <miller_> oliver: right click on the panel and click "add to panel"
[04:57] <UndertakerX2> could some one help me install vmware tools in ubuntu(guest)? I cant figure out the mount point.
[04:57]  * anima_ apologizes for being an idiot.
[04:57] <mortici> russia213: this should help you change from grub to lilo
[04:57] <jedsen> anima_: it is okay! we all learn
[04:57] <mortici> russia213: http://www.bauer-power.net/2007/08/changing-from-grub-to-lilo-ubuntu-704.html
[04:57] <deadbattery> has anyone used litespeed?
[04:58] <mortici> russia213: once that is done go ahead and follow the instructions for creating the floppy, making sure to append respectively
[04:58] <cast|lir> Chaorain: so with 420gb unused you appear to have plenty of space
[04:58] <UndertakerX2> deadbatter,y no but im considering trying it
[04:58] <deadbattery> just had a question abt htaccess
[04:58] <Chaorain> cast|lir, yah I just hate having a part unused
[04:58] <UndertakerX2> sorry havent actually used it yet do i dont i would be of much help
[04:58] <mortici> russia213: these are guides not exact guides for your system, so you will have to make changes for your specific system (i.e. /dev/sda1 in the guide might actually mean /dev/sdc1 on your system) get it
[04:58] <mikeshollen> I am trying to load a custom upsplash theme but everytime i rebooy all i see is text, any ideas why?
[04:58] <oliver__> I don't mean the application icon, i meant the icon that appears when you have it minimized
[04:59] <oliver__> I forgot whats the name
[04:59] <mortici> russia213: why do you wanna boot from floppy anyway?
[04:59] <jedsen> oliver__: re-launch the application?
[04:59] <jedsen> oliver__: or you could add a new panel
[04:59] <Chaorain> cast|lir, oh nvm I'll format it to fat32 for file transfers between windows
[04:59] <russia213> mortici: I just want to get rid of GRUB and boot with LILO
[05:00] <deadbattery> litespeed seems better
[05:00] <jedsen> oliver__: and then add a "window list" to it
[05:00] <Chaorain> cast|lir, thanks for your help
[05:00] <cast|lir> Chaorain: fat32 is pathetic filesystem, but sure, windows supports it :P
[05:00] <jedsen> cast|lir: why is it pathetic?
[05:00] <mikeshollen> jedsen: has a lot of limitations
[05:01] <cast|lir> jedsen: no permissions, tiny filesize limit
[05:01] <jedsen> mikeshollen: i think that's why they made ntfs
[05:01] <Chaorain> cast|lir, only file system that linux can wright to that windows can read
[05:01] <cast|lir> jedsen: needs defraging
[05:01] <jedsen> cast|lir: you could say the same about ext3
[05:01] <mortici> russia213: then no need to use a floppy....
[05:01] <cast|lir> jedsen: what? no.
[05:02] <jedsen> cast|lir: yes, my friend
[05:02]  * cast|lir looks around
[05:02] <mortici> russia213: just use install lilo, and set it up to be your bootloader
[05:02] <Chaorain> cast|lir, linux writing to ntfs is still experimental and I havn't found how to mount my raid 1 hard drive as 1 drive
[05:02] <jedsen> cast|lir: but there's only offline defrag tools for ext3
[05:02] <jedsen> cast|lir: ext4 is the future, though
[05:02] <russia213> mortici: How do I do that?
[05:02] <cast|lir> Chaorain: there are windows drivers for ext2/3, don't ask me how reliable each project is though :)
[05:02] <DreamReflex> What is the best file system to use on an external that both linux and osx can read?
[05:02] <cast|lir> jedsen: ext4 is a temporary stepping stone, btrfs is the future :)
[05:02] <jedsen> DreamReflex: xfs
[05:02] <Chaorain> cast|lir, OOOOooooo cool
[05:02] <jedsen> cast|lir: ah, right you are
[05:03] <anima_> I found it.
[05:03] <anima_> tnx
[05:03] <cast|lir> jedsen: fat is much more prone to file fragmentation
[05:03] <jedsen> cast|lir: i wouldn't doubt it
[05:04] <UndertakerX2> could some one help me install vmware tools in ubuntu(guest)? I cant figure out the mount point.
[05:04] <jedsen> cast|lir: ntfs is not so great, either, as far as fragmentation
[05:04] <scunizi> cast|lir: temporary maybe for years.. btrfs from what I understand scales much better for larger data centers.. if it's faster great otherwise not really needed on the desktop
[05:04] <Out_Cold> how do I reactivate old LVMs in a new server installation?
[05:04] <jedsen> Out_Cold: vmchange -a y
[05:04] <mortici> russia213: why dont you wanna use Grub, its much easier than Lilo......
[05:04] <cast|lir> scunizi: on whos desktop? ;P
[05:04] <JPSman> How do I remove my creative labs X-Fi beta sound card driver?
[05:04] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: Let me see if I still have an ubuntu VM client set up.
[05:05] <jedsen> Out_Cold: then they appear /dev/mapper and you can mount them
[05:05] <scunizi> cast|lir: who's in a data center?..:)
[05:05] <UndertakerX2> ramiran_, ok thanks
[05:05] <mortici> russia213: http://www.bauer-power.net/2007/08/changing-from-grub-to-lilo-ubuntu-704.html will guide you... to do it but still i see no reason, lilo is slow..
[05:05] <treehaqr> i have a problem with gnome menu editor in ubuntu 8.10. the menu editor does not appear after i clicked on "edit menu". does anyone have any idea?
[05:05] <Out_Cold> vmchange isn't a default package is it?
[05:05] <jedsen> Out_Cold: vgchange
[05:06] <russia213> mortici: I've gotten GRUB errors that either no one know how to fix or no one is willing to explain the solution
[05:06] <jedsen> Out_Cold: and it should be
[05:06] <oliver_> jedsen, Hi I I read what you wrote.  I think i have better wording this time: I had compiz icon on my tray and clicks remove from panel.  Now all my other tray icons, except sound are gone.  When I restart my other applications such as pidgin and xchat, it does not minimize to tray like it should. and when I exit, it disappears, but it still runs because I my nickname is taken.  Now how do I get it to show again?
[05:06] <mortici> russia213: switching bm's is not the solution then :) what are the errors...?
[05:06] <Chaorain> cast|lir, you know if there is an xfs read/write driver for windows XP?
[05:06] <cast|lir> scunizi: i find things like volume management and snapshots very useful on my desktop
[05:06] <samurai> How can i format my usb drive??
[05:06] <cast|lir> Chaorain: i do not. google does, though
[05:07] <Chaorain> cast|lir, thanks
[05:07] <jedsen> oliver_: top or bottom panel?
[05:07] <oliver_> Top
[05:07] <Out_Cold> jedsen, nope... think i need to transfer it via CD because my server is lacking a hardwire atm
[05:07] <russia213> mortici: it used to be error 21 then I tried to just but the windows MBR back so now I have the GRUB geom error
[05:07] <oliver_> jedsen, Top panel.  The tiny icons don't show up anymore.
[05:07] <scunizi> cast|lir: volume management? like lvm?  never tried it but I understand the benefits.. snapshots I never really understood.  can you explain?
[05:07] <jedsen> oliver_: i'm not sure, in that case
[05:08] <mortici> russia213: so you get an error 21 from grub?
[05:08] <cast|lir> jedsen: while ext3 may not be the hottest thing in the block, it's still usuable for all ones needs. fat on the other hand, omfg try ripping a dvd to a fat partition :(
[05:08] <oliver_> sigh this has happened to me more than once, I guess i'll have to reinstall?
[05:08] <jedsen> cast|lir: indeed
[05:08] <russia213> mortici: not anymore at boot I just get "grub      " then it stops
[05:08] <jedsen> Out_Cold: you might try installing it with the package manager?
[05:09] <jedsen> Out_Cold: it might be called something like "vgtools"
[05:09] <JPSman> when ubuntu starts up is says "ctsound, installing X-fi"  how do I uninstall the drivers for the X-fi sound card?
[05:09] <mortici> russia213: pastebin your /boot/menu.lst
[05:09] <mortici> russia213: also uninstall lilo
[05:10] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Looks like I lost it in a hard drive crash a few weeks ago. But if you give me a few minutes, I have the ISO, I can make a new one.
[05:10] <russia213> mortici: help me with both of those please
[05:10] <russia213> mortici: Sorry *is a total n00b*
[05:10] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: sure, apreciate the help!
[05:10] <samurai> can i get help regarding how to format an usb drive in ubuntu??
[05:11] <UndertakerX2> samurai: use gparted
[05:11] <samurai> UndertakerX2: Thanks, i ll try that
[05:11] <mortici> russia213: ok well error 21 mean can not find disk, so that means it couldn't find the hdd...
[05:12] <UndertakerX2> samurai: no problem
[05:12] <mortici> russia213: sudo apt-get remove lilo
[05:12] <cast|lir> scunizi: snapshots...well, in the simplest case. it would let you, say, take a snapshot of /home today. from then on, no matter what files you removed or delted or modified from /home, you could also mount the snapshot and get access to the files as they existed on  feb 06, 2009. so take it to the extreme, you want to do something that mig ht destroy your system, maybe install a dodgy package. you'd take a snapshot prior to installing, install, the if ...
[05:12] <cast|lir> ... you wanted, you could revert back to a prior state.
[05:13] <mortici> russia213: how are you booting into the system then lol
[05:13] <oliver_2> I closed xchat and it is still running, but it doesn't show on the tray icons.  How do I find it again?
[05:13] <russia213> mortici: I haven't I've been using live CD
[05:13] <mortici> russia213: :(
[05:14] <mortici> russia213: well your not makeing any changes then...
[05:14] <cast|lir> then if you wanted you could revert back to the prior state*
[05:14] <mortici> russia213: to the installed OS at least...
[05:14] <scunizi> cast|lir: so what do you use to do a snapshot.. also if /home gets borked do you delete it and restore from the snapshot?
[05:14] <russia213> Then how do I?
[05:14] <russia213> mortici:*
[05:15] <cast|lir> scunizi: LVM handles the snapshot. you could restore it from the snapshot, you could start using the snapshot instead, or you could just copy the filse you wanted fromthe snapshot
[05:15] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Installing now. Mouse is kinda wonky when using VMWare inside VNC.
[05:16] <oliver_2> figured it out guys thanks.
[05:16] <oliver_2> It's called Notification Icons
[05:16] <scunizi> cast|lir: ah.. it's a function of lvm.. didn't know that.. makes sense..
[05:16] <mortici> russia213: its ok tho
[05:16] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_,works good for me in workstation but not so well in vmplayer
[05:16] <mortici> russia213: we will just reinstall
[05:16] <russia213> mortici: Is there hope? ;_;
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: yeah its fine
[05:17] <russia213> mortici: all of ubuntu?
[05:17] <ramirand_> Undertaker2: I'm using VMWare Server.
[05:17] <scunizi> ramirand_: you have to install vmware tools
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: no
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: just gurb
[05:17] <cast|lir> scunizi: the neat thing is, to take a snapshot of /home, takes up no space. [then, when you start modifying whatevr you took snapshot, space equal to the size of the modifications will get used up]
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: ok go ahead and type: sudo grub
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: in a shell
[05:18] <cast|lir> my english is pretty shitty at the moment :(
[05:18] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: ohh i heard server is crud, you should try out workstation
[05:18] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:18] <mortici> russia213: ok, now type: fine /boot/grub/stage1
[05:18] <mortici> err
[05:18] <scunizi> cast|lir: what do you typicallly speak?
[05:18] <mortici> russia213: find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:18] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Server's good enough for what I do, and I like the remote client.
[05:18] <JPSman> how do I uninstall my sound card?
[05:18] <cast|lir> english. sad huh D:
[05:18] <mortici> russia213: it should return one item...
[05:18] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: fair enough :p
[05:18] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Not really great for stuff like video or sound, though.
[05:19] <ImSad> I've got a small problem with my cd/dvd player
[05:19] <ImSad> it won't play.
[05:19] <scunizi> cast|lir: :)  scotch does that too.
[05:19] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: yeah i just plan on running a private test server
[05:19] <ImSad> and I was wondering if anyone could assist me
[05:19] <russia213> mortici: (hd2,0)
[05:19] <mortici> russia213: how many HDD's do you have?
[05:19] <russia213> mortici: 3, 2 internals, 1 external
[05:20] <Out_Cold> where do packages download to when you use the -d flag?
[05:20] <mortici> russia213: which one is the primary hdd?
[05:20] <cast|lir> scunizi: easiest to grasp LVM by playing with it, :)
[05:20] <Flannel> Out_Cold: same place as usual.  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:20] <russia213> mortici: (hd0,0)
[05:20] <mortici> russia213: ok
[05:21] <scunizi> cast|lir: I'll have to get use to it in a vm.. well... maybe one of my spare boxes..
[05:21] <mortici> russia213: we are gonna install grub to the MBR of the primary bootable partition, it will manage all of your os's so if you have windows let me know
[05:21] <mortici> russia213: also are you running a raid on the 2 internal?
[05:21] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Almost done... removing unnecessary pkgs...
[05:21] <russia213> Mortici: I have windows, and I don't think I have RAID
[05:21] <cast|lir> scunizi: another use of snapshots is, if you want to backup /home with tar while using /home, since it might take 30 minutes, some files might have changed a lot in that 30 minutes, so you don't have a tarball of all files at a single point in time, so instead you create a snapshot of /home, mount that, and tarball that - since its not changing you dont have that that issue of tarballing changing files
[05:21] <mortici> ok
[05:22] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: ok
[05:22] <eper3z> guys I need help, I cant get a shared folder from ubuntu setup for the network..the first time i attempted to set it up it worked fine but it doesnt work anymore..any help?
[05:22] <tavo> today afternoon I had problems with File Browser, it just got frozen and all nautilus too, I couldn't mount my windows partitions where all my music is, I'm worried because I thought it was because ntfs file system got "dirt" I ran chkdsk, then started from ubuntu but I couldn't mount the partition yet I killed seahorse agent (I don't remember why) and suddenly I could mount the partition. After the problem I was going to copy a pdf file to my memory stick th
[05:22] <tavo> ere was my swap unit and I formatted it to fat 32 to use it on windows for printing
[05:22] <mortici> russia213: go ahead and type root (hd2,0)
[05:22] <russia213> mortici: done
[05:22] <scunizi> cast|lir: so you can mount the snapshot as something other then /home to do that ?
[05:23] <cast|lir> scunizi: sure. then you have two independant copies of /home
[05:23] <scunizi> cast|lir: if it doesn't take any space how does that work
[05:24] <mortici> russia213: type: setup (hd0)
[05:24] <cast|lir> scunizi: well, itll take up space as you make more and more changes. so if /home was 5GB, you take a snapshit and mount it on /home2. you still only use up 5GB of space. but then write 1GB to /home, and you'll have used up 6GB of disk space
[05:25] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:25] <mortici> russia213: ok type: mkdir /mnt/root
[05:25] <ramirand_> OK, when I went to VM / install vmware tools, it appeared as a CDROM at /dev/scd0 (which Ubuntu mounted on /media/cdrom0)
[05:25] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Sorry, last comment was for you.
[05:26] <mortici> russia213: do you know which /dev/xxx is for your ubuntu install?
[05:26] <mortici> russia213: like /dev/sdc1 or /dev/hdc1?
[05:26] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: ok so where do i go from there, i have it mounted
[05:27] <scunizi> cast|lir: so is it actually saving a text file of what's contained in /home at the time of the snapshot? (thus the lack of an additional large file)
[05:27] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: I have to check the forums, it's been a while.
[05:27] <princecita> Escriba el texto aquí....hola
[05:27] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: it says mount then switch to temp dir
[05:28] <cast|lir> scunizi: it utilizes copy-on-write, uh, might be best to read about it from someone who explains and know better :)
[05:28] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Usually, i have Ubuntu as the host, not the client. Only did that to try out Intrepid before installing it.
[05:28] <mortici> russia213: sorry, if you still have "grub> " type quit
[05:28] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: i understand
[05:28] <princecita> hi
[05:28] <princecita> i¨m peruvian
[05:29] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: it says switch temp then do the rpm install - rpm -Uhv /mnt/cdrom/VMwareTools-<xxxx>.i386.rpm
[05:29] <scunizi> cast|lir: thanks.. you've actually explained pretty well.  I'll read up on it.. sounds interesting.. and functional
[05:29] <russia213> mortic: it's sdc1 and mkdir /mnt/root returned unrecognized command
[05:29] <scunizi> UndertakerX2: you need the .deb version of tools not .rpm
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[05:30] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: Here's a set of instructions... http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/07/how-to-install-vmware-tools-on-ubuntu-804-guests/
[05:30] <mortici> russia213: yeah type quit if you still have "grub> " on screen
[05:30] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:30] <cast|lir> scunizi: ZFS is pretty interesting :) worth playing around with, you see how much nicer it is to use than what linux offers
[05:30] <mortici> russia213: now type: mkdir /mnt/root && mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/root
[05:31] <russia213> mortici: permission denied
[05:31] <mortici> eek
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[05:32] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: let me try that real quick brb
[05:32] <mortici> russia213: type: sudo mkdir /mnt/root && mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/root
[05:32] <prince_jammys> sudo mount ...
[05:32] <palomer> hello
[05:32] <mortici> prince_jammys: lol damn it!
[05:32] <palomer> my sound is not working
[05:32] <palomer> and im losing hope
[05:32] <palomer> somebody help me!
[05:32] <scunizi> cast|lir: zfs.. is that on osx or someting?  I know it's not the only file system that supports lvm. .ext3 can too. of course you know that.
[05:32] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:33] <mortici> russia213: type: ls /mnt/root
[05:33] <mortici> russia213: does it output anything
[05:33] <prince_jammys> mortici: ha. love that sudo!
[05:33] <mortici> prince_jammys: indeed, i hate it when i forget to add it in chain commands :P
[05:33] <russia213> mortici: "bin   cdrom  etc   initrd.img  lost+found  mnt  proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz
[05:33] <russia213> boot  dev    home  lib         media       opt  root  srv   tmp  var"
[05:33] <eydaimon> how can I make different characters of other languages, like o with umlauts (swedish) ?
[05:33] <mortici> russia213: ok
[05:34] <mortici> russia213: type: chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash
[05:34] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:35] <prince_jammys> eydaimon: if it's infrequent, you can paste characters from the 'character map', which i think you'll find in the accessories menu
[05:35] <eydaimon> prince_jammys: thanks. and if it's more frequent, I change the keyboard?
[05:35] <ImSad> I'm having trouble with my cd drive.
[05:35] <prince_jammys> eydaimon: you can change your locale
[05:35] <ImSad> It won't play anything other then the ubuntu disk
[05:35] <ImSad> and I was wondering if someone could help me.
[05:35] <ImSad> it's probably something simple.
[05:35] <mortici> russia213: type: sudo update-grub
[05:35] <prince_jammys> eydaimon: if these characters are from the language you'd like to use in ubuntu
[05:36] <ImSad> But I'm not all that smart with linux.
[05:36] <ImSad> Very very new
[05:36] <eydaimon> prince_jammys: I like the way macintosh solved it. alt+u gives the next character an umlaut, etc
[05:36] <prince_jammys> eydaimon: maybe gnome has something like that, but i'm unfamiliar
[05:36] <cast|lir> scunizi: LVM sits below the filesystem. it just presents you block devices that you take snapshots of etc.. you can layer whatever you like on top. ext3. vfat. xfs.
[05:36] <russia213> mortici: done
[05:37] <scunizi> cast|lir: ok.. I can tell I've got reading to do.. you've sent me on a new path of exploration! :-))
[05:37] <mortici> russia213: ok type: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:38] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: seems to be installing, thanks alot!
[05:38] <mortici> russia213: fyi "tab key" autocompletes partial text
[05:38] <winnie> hi firefox is not working .. the pages are getting loaded properly but no bookmarks or history is geting saved
[05:38] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: No problem. Good luck.
[05:38] <mortici> russia213: once the file opens, scroll down to the bottom
[05:38] <winnie> and the forward and backward keys are not working too
[05:39] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: one other thing, i have a folder on my desktop, but it wont let me copy it to /var/www , says i dont have permision, i try assigning permision, but it wont copy still, any idea?
[05:39] <russia213> mortici: There's nothing in it O.o
[05:40] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: What's the permissions and owner/group on /var/www?
[05:40] <scunizi> UndertakerX2: use sudo cp <filename> /var/www
[05:40] <unop> UndertakerX2,  sudo cp -r ~/Desktop/directory /var/www/
[05:40] <mortici> russia213: .... uhm not possible....
[05:41] <mortici> russia213: close the file and type: sudo gedit /boot/grub/m<tab key>
[05:41] <mortici> russia213: it should auto complete it
[05:41] <unop> mortici, russia213 ..  use  gksudo gedit ...  # don't use sudo with GUI programs
[05:41] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: thanks, ill try that here in a few, tia though!
[05:41] <mortici> unop: live cd enviroment..... doesn't really matter....
[05:42] <cast|lir> scunizi: ZFS is sun microsystems baby, generally considered the most advanced filesystem. if you want to use it grab a copy of opensolaris. its been integrated into freebsd now, osx has ro support last i heard. you can use zfs-fuse to access it in linux. but yeah, the origin of it is solaris. similar features to what linux can do, but much nicer admin interface
[05:42] <scunizi> cast|lir: thanks
[05:42] <russia213> mortici: Ok, I've closed the terminal can we try opening it again?
[05:42] <unop> mortici, no, don't - it's not a good idea anyway, it can lead to annoyances even on a live CD env
[05:43] <winnie> can i get any help on firefox?? my firefox is not working properly? Navigation buttons are disabled... and history and bookmarks are not getting saved...
[05:43] <mortici> unop: noted
[05:43] <wikkedfin> anyone ever have 8.10 lock up and had to do a hard boot?
[05:43] <wikkedfin> reboot*
[05:43] <mortici> russia213: :/... yeah
[05:43] <russia213> mortici: Sorry ;_;
[05:43] <mortici> russia213: open a shell and type: gksudo gedit /mnt/root/boot/grub/m<tab key>
[05:43] <namasamaran> otong
[05:44] <prince_jammys> winnie: i was think perhaps the permissions of your .mozilla directory might be bad, but i've never heard of broken navigation buttons
[05:44] <mortici> russia213: in 15 mins im leaving....
[05:44] <prince_jammys> winnie: "i was thinking" is what i meant
[05:44] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:44] <russia213> mortici: now what?
[05:44] <mortici> russia213: did it open the file
[05:44] <unop> winnie, does this command return anything?    find ~/.mozilla ! -user "$USER"
[05:44] <mortici> russia213: and is there info in it
[05:45] <russia213> mortici: yes
[05:45] <mortici> russia213: ok scroll to the bottom
[05:45] <russia213> mortici: done
[05:45] <mortici> russia213: the very first line with 'title
[05:45] <mortici> russia213: going down should be root (hd2,0) ... if not change it
[05:46] <hmw> please tell me a method for changing gnomes default distance between icons (not changing zoom)
[05:46] <russia213> mortici: it is
[05:46] <mortici> russia213: next line: kernel ... root=/dev/sdc1 (if not change it and leave the rest of the line alone)
[05:47] <mortici> russia213: next line: initrd (leave it alone)
[05:47] <mortici> russia213: do the same edits if necessary to the recovery mode lines
[05:47] <prince_jammys> hmw: i don't think there's an easy method for that. when i had gnome, i looked for it and could never find it. i wonder if it's possible.
[05:47] <prince_jammys> hmw: the gap is too big, right?
[05:47] <mortici> russia213: check to see if windows is listed
[05:48] <hmw> prince_jammys - i use 66% zoom, the gap is too small ;-)
[05:48] <prince_jammys> hmw: ha. for me, it was too big. that among other things made me say bye-bye to gnome
[05:48] <asus> sup
[05:48] <mortici> russia213: should have: title Microsoft Windows XP (or something like that)
[05:48] <russia213> mortici: it is at the VERY bottom what did you mean recovery lines?
[05:48] <mortici> russia213: don't worry about the recovery lines
[05:49] <russia213> mortici: yes it is there
[05:49] <mortici> russia213: root should be (hd0,0)
[05:49] <hmw> prince_jammys - i'll stick with gnome, i like the simplicity... i cant belive, that there is no config file and i had to recompile... gah... i will continue asking google. thanks.
[05:49] <russia213> mortici: yes
[05:49] <winnie> unop : No it doesnt return nething
[05:49] <prince_jammys> hmw: good luck. i had a really hard time finding the answer to that one.
[05:49] <hmw> prince_jammys - i'll tell you, if i find anything
[05:50] <prince_jammys> hmw: cool
[05:50] <mortici> russia213: ok seems like its good, type exit and reboot
[05:50] <mortici> russia213: wait
[05:51] <mortici> russia213: type: sudo umount /mnt/root
[05:51] <mortici> russia213: then reboot
[05:51] <mortici> russia213: make sure your bios is set to boot from the first HDD...
[05:52] <russia213> mortici: ok, brb to tell you if it works
[05:52] <mortici> k
[05:52] <rj_> does anyone know anything about team speek?
[05:52] <mortici> rj_: it sucks, use mumble :)
[05:53] <rj_> its my stations meeting place
[05:54] <felixsulla> A tutorial site reads "use the /etc/init.d/rc.local script to execute these commands on startup"
[05:54] <Flannel> rj_: there's a lot of information regarding teamspeak on the forums, ubuntuforums.org
[05:54] <mortici> rj_: :( that sucks... all i know is you can't have any other audio playing before running team speak
[05:54] <felixsulla> It was a sudo commando from terminal, where in rc.local do I put it?
[05:54] <Quintok> odd question, is there a way to filter ls' output by mime type? similar to grep for file name
[05:54] <mortici> rj_: and once its running no other audio will play
[05:55] <jtaji> felixsulla: in ubuntu it's /etc/rc.local
[05:55] <rj_> i had it running
[05:55] <rj_> then
[05:55] <rj_> iclosed it started winamp
[05:55] <rj_> and lost sudio for t/s
[05:56] <mortici> rj_: yep :)
[05:56] <felixsulla> jtaji where in rc.local do I add my sudo command?
[05:56] <mortici> rj_: it uses OSS, which sucks, team speak 3 is upposed to use ALSA
[05:56] <felixsulla> And wont it ask for a password every time if i dont login as superuser?
[05:56] <mortici> rj_: OSS doesn't like to share /dev's :P
[05:56] <jtaji> felixsulla: firstly, you don't need to use sudo in rc.local, it is run as root.... but put the command anywhere before the exit 0
[05:56] <rj_> ic
[05:57] <mortici> rj_: basically team speak takes control of your sound device, exclusively
[05:57] <mortici> rj_: i think there is a work around
[05:57] <ramirand_> Quintok: you mean you want to find only files that are of a particular type?
[05:57] <Quintok> yea, in specified a folder
[05:57] <felixsulla> What folder does rc.local "start" in?
[05:57] <ramirand_> Quintok: If you run "file" on one of them, does it know the type?
[05:57] <prince_jammys> ramirand_: you can do it by filename extension, but not by file type
[05:58] <felixsulla> If i'm going to add the command "mount -t vboxsf _VirtualBoxShared ubushare" .. ubushare may not be just right above where rc.local is run?
[05:58] <Quintok> ramirand_, yes
[05:58] <prince_jammys> Quintok:  sorry, that message was for you
[05:58] <compguy1101> trying to find a fix for my shutdown and sleep problem with ubuntu remix on my hp mini, tried a lot of fixes from forums but none seem to fix it, the laptop wont shutdown, and 75% of the time, when i wake it from sleep, its just a black screen... any thoughts?
[05:58] <prince_jammys> ramirand_: wrong nick, sorry
[05:58] <Quintok> prince_jammys: yep, thanks =)
[05:58] <jtaji> felixsulla: either use absolute paths in that command, or do a cd command in rc.local first
[05:58] <russia213> mortici: error 21
[05:59] <mortici> rj_: try TeamSpeak aoss
[05:59] <felixsulla> Oh just run it from /
[05:59] <prince_jammys> Quintok: is filename good enough?
[05:59] <mortici> russia213: that means it can't find the hard drive
[05:59] <felixsulla> use an absolute starting from / for the ubushare
[05:59] <mortici> something isn't setup right in your bios most likely as the primary boot device
[05:59] <russia213> mortici: what should I do?
[05:59] <jtaji> felixsulla: yes
[05:59] <felixsulla> ty sir :)
[05:59] <Quintok> prince_jammys: no unfortunately, they don't have filetypes appended to them
[05:59] <mortici> russia213: gonna have to change your bios settings untill you find the primary boot device
[06:00] <prince_jammys> Quintok: that sucks. you'll have to use the 'file' command, which is slow (and not 100% reliable)
[06:00] <scunizi> russia213: mortici may I interject.. if they are both sata drives make sure that the designated boot drive is plugged into the lower number sata port..
[06:00] <Quintok> I found it looking at file -h.  "file -i * | grep" looks like it should work
[06:00] <ramirand_> Quintok: If file tells you what they are, you could do something like "file * | grep filetype | cut -d: -f1
[06:00] <Josshill[OA]> Hey can anyone help me? Im a new Linux user
[06:00] <prince_jammys> Quintok: yeah
[06:00] <Quintok> lol, thanks ramirand_
[06:00] <compguy1101> anyone?
[06:00] <ImSad> Josshill, I would also love some assistance.
[06:00] <russia213> They aren't satas
[06:01] <ImSad> I'm a freakish noob and can't do anything.
[06:01] <russia213> mortici: how do I make my BIOD USB boot compatible
[06:01] <quibbler> !ask
[06:01] <russia213> Bios*
[06:01] <mortici> russia213: grub is installed on the primary HDD (hd0) MBR......
[06:02] <cahaya-05> oooo
[06:02] <russia213> mortici: so what do I do then?
[06:02] <Josshill[OA]> Anyone around?
[06:03] <compguy1101> trying to find a fix for my shutdown and sleep problem with ubuntu remix on my hp mini, tried a lot of fixes from forums but none seem to fix it, the laptop wont shutdown, and 75% of the time, when i wake it from sleep, its just a black screen... any thoughts?
[06:03] <jtaji> Josshill[OA]: lots of people, just ask a question
[06:03] <Newfie_rich> hey all, just trying to find where my internet files go from firefox
[06:04] <jtaji> compguy1101: wish I had one of those to try and help :p
[06:04] <lockd> by default they're all dumped in desktop IIRC
[06:04] <atom^x> Josshill[OA], ask your ?
[06:04] <compguy1101> jtaji, i guess its a common problem for ubuntu...
[06:04] <scunizi> Newfie_rich: downloads? or temp files.. anything other than temp is probably in ~/.mozilla
[06:04] <jtaji> compguy1101: suspend is tough, many laptops are poorly documented, the ones that are documented well are supported fully
[06:05]  * porter1 is frustrated the are no easy, simple to use math editors for ubuntu.
[06:05] <compguy1101> Josshill[OA], there is 1300 people here, i think there is someone around
[06:05] <lockd> porter1: like, math typesetting?
[06:05] <porter1> Yeah
[06:05] <porter1> Amaya acts insane in ubuntu
[06:05] <Newfie_rich> Scunizi: temp interenet files
[06:05] <compguy1101> jtaji, hmm how about shurdown
[06:05] <lockd> if you need math, you want LaTeX. if you want easy, you want OpenOffice
[06:06] <compguy1101> *shutdown
[06:06] <ImSad> I need help: for some reason my computer won't play cds or dvds. It shows that there is something in there, but when I go to run it, it says that there's nothing there.
[06:06] <tritium> porter1: LaTeX
[06:06] <Riov> hey
[06:06] <jtaji> compguy1101: that usually works :p
[06:06] <porter1> What exactly is the name of the program for math in OO
[06:06] <balzac> how do I launch gnome from a shell?
[06:06] <scunizi> Newfie_rich: ~/.mozilla
[06:06] <cast|lir> latex is the go for any document you want to look nice without any effort, too :)
[06:06] <jtaji> balzac: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:06] <compguy1101> jtaji, well mine just hangs and doesent turn off... hm
[06:06] <mortici> russia213: im not sure what to tell you, you can try going back into the live cd
[06:06] <Riov> What prog do i use to lock/set ubuntu screen blank?
[06:07] <russia213> mortici: 0,0 is the primary drive it's the C:\ drive
[06:07] <tritium> porter1: nothing produces more professional mathematics typesetting than LaTeX, which is why so many academic journals and university dissertation templates use it
[06:07] <mortici> russia213: making the root dir again mounting it
[06:07] <russia213> mortici: I'm in the live cd
[06:07] <balzac> command not found
[06:07] <mortici> russia213: chroot over again
[06:07] <russia213> mortici: Windows won't boot
[06:07] <balzac> even though I just installed gnome-desktop-environment
[06:07] <mortici> russia213: ofcourse the bootloader isn't working...
[06:07] <Riov> Im running ubuntu 8.1 live cd compiling in gentoo chroot and I want to turn off screen so i can sleep in dark room
[06:07] <porter1> Yep, I have tried a number of LaTeX based programs
[06:07] <felixsulla> What is the opposite of :set ro in vim?
[06:07] <Josshill[OA]> Oo shit.
[06:07] <Roken> Where do I install icons? I'm using xfce
[06:07] <Josshill[OA]> That was wierd
[06:07] <Riov> but theres no option to lock screen
[06:07] <Josshill[OA]> All the sudden everyone started talking
[06:07] <Josshill[OA]> =/
[06:07] <FloodBot3> Josshill[OA]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <tritium> language, please, Josshill[OA]
[06:07] <cast|lir> Roken: xset s 10  # 10 seconds
[06:08] <mortici> russia213: then try: sudo grub-install /dev/hda1 (i think hda1, might be sda1)
[06:08] <whatev> felipe_ :set nowhatever
[06:08] <whatev> just put a no in front of it
[06:08] <Roken> Sorry Cast, but that made no sense
[06:08] <lockd> porter1: I believe it's OpenOffice Math
[06:08] <mortici> but i have to go, got work in 5 hours
[06:08] <mortici> need sleep
[06:08] <russia213> mortici: not found
[06:09] <Josshill[OA]> Can someone query me?
[06:09] <mortici> russia213: whats not found?
[06:09] <ari_stre1s> good night
[06:09] <tritium> porter1: good, then what's the issue?
[06:09] <Josshill[OA]> I need help my Sound is not working when I watch a video
[06:09] <cast|lir> oh, i ment Riov. sorry Roken
[06:09] <Roken> lol, okay
[06:09] <lockd> porter1: err, File -> New -> Formula
[06:09] <russia213> mortici: "Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. /dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device."
[06:09] <porter1> Yeah, for some reason I have it installed, but it isn't included in the menu items, so I forgot
[06:10] <cast|lir> Roken: itll set my screen to turn of after 10 seconds of activity, fwiw :)
[06:10] <mortici> russia213: sda1 then?
[06:10] <mortici> russia213: make sure you are chroot'ed over
[06:10] <russia213> mortici: chroot'd?
[06:10] <Josshill[OA]> Guys can you help me? When I play a video it wont play and when it does there is no sound?
[06:11] <mortici> russia213: yeah chroot, please don't tell me your not remembering this stuff...
[06:11] <Riov> cast|lir: did that cmd just set the screensaver
[06:11] <felixsulla> In Nautaulus if you're not root, how can you change permissions on a file?
[06:11] <Roken> lol, okay cast, but I need help with icons >.>
[06:11] <mortici> russia213: ill type this out and im going, i don't have time
[06:11] <russia213> mortici: Sorry ;_;
[06:11] <Riov> cast|lir: Or will it actually disable monitor?
[06:11] <cast|lir> Riov: well, least on my laptop, the display turns off
[06:11] <tritium> porter1: OO math can't complete with LaTeX.  If you want professional mathematics typsetting, you really don't want OO math.
[06:11] <b3z3rk3r> felixsulla, you will need to be root
[06:11] <Josshill[OA]> I feel ignored :(
[06:12] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, what player are you using?
[06:12] <mortici> russia213: type: sudo mkdir /mnt/root && sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/root && sudo chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash && sudo grub-install /dev/hda1 (if its and IDE HDD and sda1 if its SATA)
[06:12] <Josshill> I was on youtube and some other websites
[06:12] <jtaji> felixsulla: you should learn to do it in the terminal, but you can launch nautilus as root with 'gksudo nautilus'
[06:12] <cast|lir> Josshill: is it the codecs
[06:12] <mortici> russia213: reboot
[06:12] <mortici> russia213: afterwards
[06:13] <Riov> cast|lir: If i set laptop close action to blank screen, will my chrooted gentoo environment continue compiling?
[06:13] <Josshill> Well, I went to go try and add java updates ect.
[06:13] <b3z3rk3r> felixsulla, "sudo nautilus" will also work
[06:13] <cast|lir> Josshill: oh, or is this 'a video' in general rather than a specific one
[06:13] <mortici> russia213: if it still doesn't work, then your gonna need to find someone else to help you, or use Google to help solve your problem
[06:13] <Riov> cast|lir: --even after closing laptop
[06:13] <prince_jammys> felixsulla: use gksudo instead of sudo, for graphical apps like nautilus
[06:13] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, so its flash, not "video" in general?
[06:13] <jtaji> b3z3rk3r: felixsulla: no, do not use sudo with gui aps
[06:13] <cast|lir> Riov: if its only blanking the screen, sure. if its going into suspend then thats a bit diff, try it
[06:13] <Josshill> Yes its a flash sorry
[06:14] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, ok, and you are using FF3.0?
[06:14] <Riov> cast|lir: heh.. its been a while since i could sit down with unix
[06:14] <mortici> russia213: i have to go, good luck
[06:14] <b3z3rk3r> jtaji, how come?
[06:14]  * mortici waves good night
[06:14] <b3z3rk3r> jtaji, whats the dif?
[06:14] <Josshill> Im sorry Im a new user I dont know what half this means =/
[06:14] <jtaji> !gksu | b3z3rk3r
[06:14] <hmw> prince_jammys - i give up for today, google is no real help on this subject. guess it has to be changed in the sources.
[06:14] <russia213> mortici: When will you be back?
[06:15] <jtaji> b3z3rk3r: it will screw up permissions on your user's config files
[06:15] <prince_jammys> hmw: told ya ;)
[06:15] <tritium> !away | mortici|sleep
[06:15] <Riov> cast|lir: linux* --but I just compiled gentoo from scratch today and Ieep.'m emerging fluxbox and components through terminal. I'll do that while I sl
[06:15] <mortici|sleep> tritium: sorry used to other chans
[06:15] <b3z3rk3r> jtaji, ah.. k. thx. il remember that :)
[06:15] <prince_jammys> hmw: frustrating, isn't it?
[06:15] <eydaimon> hm, how do I get libflashplayer.so for x64? flashplugin-nonfree doesn't have it
[06:15] <tritium> mortici|sleep: no problem
[06:15] <cast|lir> Riov: unix is the past!
[06:15] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, in that case welcome :)
[06:15] <Riov> cast|lir: linux ;)
[06:15] <mortici> russia213: ill be back in probably 3 to 4 days its the weekend
[06:15] <patrick> +i
[06:15] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill,  FF = Firefox
[06:15] <hmw> prince_jammys - i didnt even find a clue, where it is in the sources. nobody seems to want a different distance !?
[06:15] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r Thanks
[06:15] <prince_jammys> hmw: you'd think it would be an obvious setting ... but no.
 Alright, Well lets see
[06:16] <mortici> russia213: good luck, google is a great tool, should learn how to use it
 I keep getting errors when I attempt to get my flash working..
[06:16] <mortici> russia213: good luck and good night
[06:16] <tritium> good night, mortici
[06:16] <mortici> tritium: good night
[06:16]  * cast|lir goes to study
[06:17] <eydaimon> is there no 64-bit adobe flashplayer?
[06:17] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, you will probably need to download it manually. When u try to play something it should prompt you to add it yes?
[06:17] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r No It did not prompt me to add anything
[06:17] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r I could view the videos they just wouldnt play
[06:17] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, whats the error you get?
[06:17] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r They would load ect.
[06:17] <hmw> prince_jammys - i wonder, what the guy was thinking when setting these values... lol
[06:17] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r Let me get it
[06:17] <jtaji> eydaimon: there is an alpha release http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[06:17] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, k
[06:17] <rubiks> i need some help with counter strike on ubuntu some one point me in the right direction
[06:18] <eydaimon> jtaji: thanks
[06:18] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:18] <Josshill> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:18] <prince_jammys> hmw: for me it was the other way around. it really got on my nerves that there was such a huge gap between the icons.
[06:18] <tritium> Josshill: do you have synaptic open?
[06:19] <hmw> prince_jammys - thats why i set 66% size, its a little better this way. but only with short file names
[06:19] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, sounds like u have a package manager working
[06:19] <Josshill> tritium No Idea what that is :) new user
[06:19] <tritium> Josshill: graphical package manager
[06:19] <prince_jammys> hmw: oh, you're talking about the vertical gap when you list files
[06:19] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r I did manage to download one I believe
[06:19] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> I have a question, I have a ubuntu server when i cd into /home/user it lists nothing is this normal?
[06:19] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, anything updating currently?
[06:19] <hmw> prince_jammys - icon view, nautilus drawing the desktop
[06:19] <jtaji> Josshill: or update manager, or add/remove programs... ?
[06:19] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r No I dont think so
[06:20] <rubiks> any one help me with online games
[06:20] <tritium> Josshill: have you installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[06:20] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, have you tried rebooting?
[06:20] <UltraPutz> is there a way to roll-back the last package operations done in apt?
[06:20] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r no
[06:20] <prince_jammys> hmw: ah. i was thinking of something else. but yeah, this sort of thing is a common complaint against gnome. some settings are difficult/impossible to change.
 If your talking about the downloads from the Guide then yes
[06:20] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, ok, the error sounds like u have a package manager working in the background
[06:20] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill,  might not be freeing things up again
[06:20] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r So how do I fix this?
[06:20] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, so try reboot and go for it again
[06:21] <Josshill> Alright
[06:21] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, have you tried to remove the package?
[06:21] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, just reboot and try again
[06:21] <tritium> Josshill: I'm talking about the flash package that is in the ubuntu repositories, not a download off of adobe.com
[06:21] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r Ill brb then
[06:21] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, ok
[06:21] <UltraPutz> faa -- the problem is, I cannot get the name of it straight to pull it form apt, so i was hoping there was a way to view recent changes...
[06:21] <hmw> prince_jammys - i also would like to change more distance/size settings, like the compact view's size for one entry... its too short for my wishes. guess i will continue baking my own linux from scratch and make everything perfect. i will upload my pathces in 100 years, when i learned all the stuff. *g*
[06:21] <skate2> how can i portscan myself to see all my ports are closed like they're supposed to be by default
[06:22] <russia213> Ok, I need grub help, I've reinstalled GRUB on the primary HDD and I get error 21
[06:22] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, is this desktop?
[06:22] <UltraPutz> faa - yes
[06:22] <prince_jammys> hmw: ha. i switched to kde, then to fluxbox. now i don't have icons anymore. :)
[06:22] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, what app?
[06:22] <prince_jammys> hmw: that'll teach em
[06:22] <UltraPutz> drivers for the ATI hardware built into the dell inspiron 8600
[06:23] <UltraPutz> it borked x
[06:23] <LFAY> haello
[06:23] <LFAY> halo
[06:23] <LFAY> help please
[06:23] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, 8.10 i take it?
[06:23] <UltraPutz> yes sir
[06:23] <prince_jammys> LFAY: write a detailed question and someone might help
[06:24] <tritium> UltraPutz: did you enable the restricted drivers?
[06:24] <hmw> skate2 i had different results when portscanning my linux router - if you try to scan the external IF from BEHIND the firewall, you will get different results as if you were scanning from outside - looks like some optimizations in the forwarding. get some free port scanners (easy to google) and best let someone scan you from outside.
[06:24] <UltraPutz> tritium -- it does not appear as a restricted driver, it looked like an alternate x config...
[06:24] <skate2> hmw: makes sense thanks
[06:24] <tritium> UltraPutz: that doesn't sound right. What did you do?
[06:25] <UltraPutz> the most helpful thing would be -- is there a package installation log for apt ?
[06:25] <LFAY> fn on my keyboard not function, help please
[06:25] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, i don't think the OS has a rollback system but most likely google how you installed it and remove it that way?
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:25] <UltraPutz> faa -- no graphics, no browser :-)
[06:25] <lyk3n> hello
[06:25] <mindrape> hell wello
[06:25] <ramirand_> UltraPutz: /var/log/apt/term.log
[06:25] <UltraPutz> i'm on via epic
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> i upgraded a package from synaptic... how can i revert back
[06:25] <UltraPutz> like i said: x borked.
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[06:25] <UltraPutz> rami - danke
[06:25] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, oo reinstall time :p
[06:26] <lyk3n> can anyone help me read a backtrack from a broken vlc media player
[06:26] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> I have a question, I have a ubuntu server when i cd into /home/user it lists nothing is this normal?
[06:26] <UltraPutz> fglrx
[06:26] <UltraPutz> that was the problem
[06:26] <skate2> hmw by IF do you mean interface?
[06:26] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: yes
[06:26] <UltraPutz> faa -- yes
[06:26] <hmw> skate2 yes
[06:26] <UltraPutz> try ls -al
[06:26] <tritium> UltraPutz: hence my question.  That *is* the restricted driver.
[06:26] <UltraPutz> might have some fun fotfiles.
[06:27] <russia213> Ok, I need grub help, I've reinstalled GRUB on the primary HDD and I get error 21, help?
[06:27] <fitri-ariyanto> alooow
[06:27] <UltraPutz> tritium -- so just removing it should bring things back to normal?
[06:27] <tritium> UltraPutz: which is also why I asked you what you did to enable the new driver.
[06:27] <tritium> UltraPutz: removing it will revert you to the "ati" (open-source) driver, yes.
[06:27] <fitri-ariyanto> I get error in fn function on my keyboard,
[06:27] <lyk3n> Does anyone know how to fix a broken vlc
[06:27] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: broken how?
[06:27] <fitri-ariyanto> how can I repair it
[06:27] <Yossarian> lo peeps
[06:28] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: when I open vlc it aborts itself
[06:28] <fitri-ariyanto> my OS ubuntu 8.04 hardy
[06:28] <Yossarian> i'm running ubuntu x64(compiz & nvidia driver) and i'm trying to run Krusader. it runs but whenever i start it the titlebar and the gnome panel disappear(reappear when i close Krusder)
[06:28] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: try running vlc from the command line and see what error it spits out
[06:28] <UltraPutz> here goes nothin'
[06:29] <gatewarstrek> when you open it from the terminal, does it give you an error message lyk3n ?
[06:29] <lyk3n> billybigrigger: It gives me three lines in the backtrace, but its too long to send here
[06:29] <obf213> cant connect to my afs folder anymore with nautilus for like amonth now...
[06:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:29] <obf213> just always times out...
[06:29] <silv3r_m00n> how can i revert upgrades done from synaptic ?
[06:29] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> Prince_jammys, do i have to mkdir? is there a normal place for data to  be stored? other than a home dir?
[06:29] <lyk3n> gatewarstreK: yes, it gives me three lines in a backtrack
[06:30] <Josshill[OA]> Alright
[06:30] <quibbler> !pastebin | gatewarstrek
[06:30] <russia213> Ok, I need grub help, I've reinstalled GRUB on the primary HDD and I get error 21, help?
[06:30] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: what data are you expecting?  your home dir should have a few dotfiles there, visible with ls -a
[06:30] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: they look like lib files and they have the hexcode at the end. I don't know how to read it
[06:30] <gatewarstrek> quibbler: very funny
[06:30] <Josshill[OA]> b3z3rk3r
[06:31] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> prince_jammys, Just alot of media files music/videos
[06:31] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill[OA], yeah, im here
[06:31] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: can you pastebin the output?
[06:31] <quibbler> gatewarstrek: sorry that was for lyk3n
[06:31] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: are you asking where is a good place to put those files?
[06:31] <gatewarstrek> quibbler: understood ;)
[06:31] <Josshill[OA]> b3z3rk3r Alright Im going to give it a try
[06:31] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: put the output in pastebin
[06:31] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: what is the url
[06:32] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: pastebin.ca
[06:32] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> prince_jammys, pretty much, on the desktop version the /home has alot of folders for places was figuring server would be setup the same
[06:32] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[06:32] <UltraPutz> removing that did not fix it.
[06:32] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: pick one :P
[06:32] <silv3r_m00n> how can i undo a package upgrade ?
[06:32] <hmw> russia213 - thats just a guess - maybe your hard drives got mixed up - they might not be hd(0,x) but hd(1,x) - you can change the boot params manually, when grub wants to boot
[06:32] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: make them yourself inside your home. apparently, the server version doesn't create them (and older desktop versions didn't, either)
[06:32] <tritium> silv3r_m00n: you don't.  Why?
[06:33] <obf213> was there some updage that broke nautilus and ssh tunneling?
[06:33] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> prince_jammys, ok thanks for the help
[06:33] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: there is a package whose previous version was better
[06:33] <Yossarian> bump
[06:33] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: i want it back
[06:33] <russia213> hmw: Could you help me with that?
[06:33] <obf213> i haven't been able to do it for months after using it for years
[06:33] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: no problem
[06:33] <tritium> silv3r_m00n: which are you referring to, and why?
[06:34] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: hplip  in the previous version I had more control of the dpi settings... after upgrade there are fewer options
[06:34] <lyk3n> billybigrigger:http://pastebin.ca/1328780
[06:34] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: so i want the previous version of hplip
[06:34] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek:http://pastebin.ca/1328780
[06:34] <hmw> russia213 - uh got no grub here - its simple: you let it boot to grub, then read the text for finding out, how to temporarily boot woth other options ... something like "edit" - you will see the entry with hd(x,y) and can change it
[06:34] <lyk3n> quibbler: thanks for the paste quib
[06:35] <Roken> Whats a good lightweight xfce player?
[06:35] <hmw> russia213 - this is only temporary - it will use the different setting only this one time, not changing any file on the hd, so its safe. worst thing that can happen is a crash
[06:35] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: this force version gives me 2 options
[06:35] <Roken> lightweight xfce mp3 player*
[06:35] <prince_jammys> Roken: audacious (it's like xmms)
[06:36] <russia213> hmw: How do I do that?
[06:36] <Roken> Oh, Prince, me likie the screenies
[06:36] <Roken> Thanks
[06:36] <prince_jammys> Roken: it's not expressly for xfce, but that's ok.
[06:36] <hmw> russia213 when grub asks you, what to boot (ubuntu normal, ubuntu safe mode, other OS), you just press a key to tweak the boot options
[06:37] <Yossarian> bump :( i'd really like to be able to use Krusader
[06:37] <russia213> hmw: I never get the far it just says error 21 and I can't choose where to boot
[06:37] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: I am reading up on the error
[06:37] <hmw> russia213 i see ... let me think
[06:37] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: hmm well i'd try to update to the current vlc version
[06:38] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: add multiverse to your apt sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:38] <lyk3n> billybigrigger: will sudo apt-get update work? I have already reinstalled the app.
[06:38] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: your running 0.8.6 newest vlc version in 0.9
[06:38] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[06:39] <prince_jammys> yes, but that's not the version in the repos
[06:39] <rj_> now the q becomes how do i get t/s back ?
[06:39] <quibbler> billybigrigger: 0.8.6 is the last in ,ultiverse
[06:40] <lyk3n> billybigrigger:I don't know.(downloading). I just installed via synaptic. I tried and failed at compiling the source code/ I keep getting errors
[06:40] <prince_jammys> lyk3n: try reinstalling it through synaptic
[06:40] <billybigrigger> Version: 0.9.4-1ubuntu3
[06:40] <hmw> russia213 - while i am searching, you could start reading the grub manual. if you read all the stuff, you should be able to figure it out yourself, but its a big document: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/
[06:40] <billybigrigger> thats the latest version
[06:41] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: I found a reference saying that deleting your vlc config might work
[06:41] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: ok, I'll look for it.
[06:42] <lyk3n> prince_jammys: tried and failed
[06:42] <prince_jammys> lyk3n: failed how?
[06:42] <prince_jammys> lyk3n: same error, or couldn't reinstall?
[06:42] <lyk3n> prince_jammys: it still doesn't work-same error
[06:42] <prince_jammys> ok
[06:42] <lyk3n> billybigrigger: It installed something new, but it still aborts itself
[06:43] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: try getting rid of ~/.config/vlc and ~/.vlc/
[06:44] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: I'm having trouble finding it. is it /etc/.vlc  or ...
[06:44] <hmw> russia213 - error 21 means, the hard drive wasnt found. looks like a bad entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst - pastebin this file please
[06:45] <gatewarstrek> no, its in your home directory
[06:45] <gatewarstrek> ~/ means /home/username/
[06:45] <con-man> #nerdpickuplines Hey baby, how about we sudo -rm yourpants ?
[06:45] <Yossarian> bump :\
[06:46] <russia213> hmw: Could you help me open the menu.lst file?
[06:46] <hmw> russia213 - do you have a livecd or any other means to access the hard drive?
[06:47] <russia213> hmw: I'm in livecd right now
[06:47] <hmw> russia213 - can you mount the file system with the /boot folder?
[06:48] <russia213> I thinkso, just need help doing it ^^() *is a total n00b*
[06:48] <russia213> hmw:*
[06:48] <dimedo> hi, i've got a FullHD tv connected to my Display Port through an HDMI adapter. when i look into the screen resolution setting, the tv is shown as "unknown", the resolution 1920x1080 is not available from the menu, all given resolutions create a warning about an unsupported resolution on my tv screen. is there a way to add the missing resolution?
[06:48] <hmw> russia213 - no problem. do you remember, how the hard drive was partitioned? and: is it IDE or SATA?
[06:48] <alexb92> hey guys, i was using amsn on ubuntu and then i changed back onto wlm for windows
[06:49] <alexb92> and all of the names of my contacts arent properly synchronised
[06:49] <alexb92> is there a way to fix it?
[06:49] <russia213> hmw: Which hard drive? windows or the ubuntu external?
[06:50] <gartral1> how do i make a desktop shortcut from te file i want a shortcut too?
[06:50] <hmw> russia213 - the ubuntu drive of course, your windows wont have a /boot directory, would it? *g* did you try to install ubuntu to a external usb hard drive?
[06:50] <russia213> hmw: Ubuntu was successfully installed on the external
[06:51] <hmw> russia213 - so it is a USB HD?
[06:51] <kansan> once you pop a gnome-terminal out... how do you pop it back in?
[06:51] <user17> miss nori
[06:52] <anarkissed> every time I try to upgrade my video player or codecs the computer says I can't because it depends on other files that have to be installed and it doesn't give me any idea how to install the other stuff.  whether I use the package manager, terminal, or add/remove apps, it just refuses to install.
[06:52] <hmw> russia213 - maybe this helps you:
[06:52] <hmw> russia213 - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/grub-error-21-after-full-install-to-usb-hard-drive/
[06:53] <Out_Cold> how do i use my device-mapper?
[06:53] <quibbler> kansan: type exit
[06:53] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: Good luck, I would try clearing those configs, if that doens't work pull the very latest version from videolan and install it. They will have instructions on their website. (the ubuntu repos are a few versions old, usually)
[06:53] <gatewarstrek> I am going to go pass out now. Gnight
[06:54] <kansan> in man pages:  ... how does one distinguish between required/not required params.  i.e. are [] indicitive of optional params?  any other rules of thumb?        chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE...
[06:54] <russia213> hmw: I've already tried that
[06:55] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: thanks for the help. I tried the recommendations at least I got further. Right now I'm just compiling and bypassing the errors with disables this and that command line
[06:55] <rzz8509> tough crowd tonight?
[06:55] <ramirand_> kansan: Generally, yes, by convention [] indicates optional params.
[06:55] <Gnea> kansan: try man man
[06:55] <ramirand_> kansan: | indicates a choice between options.
[06:55] <hmw> russia213 - you probably need to use the UUID number of the drive instead of the device file entry (/dev/sda) ... checking
[06:56] <skate2> how come when i nmap -v -A localhost it only says port 80 is open, but if i nmap my internal IP address it says port 80, cups and postgres are open?
[06:56] <Yossarian> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2 libasound2-plugins; wget -N boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/getlibs-all.deb; wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-amd64; sudo dpkg -i skype-install.deb; sudo dpkg -i getlibs-all.deb; sudo getlibs -p libqtcore4 libqtgui4 bluez-alsa
[06:56] <Yossarian> oops sorry
[06:56] <Gnea> skate2: sudo netstat -pan
[06:56] <FloodBot3> Yossarian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:56] <Yossarian> wrong window :)
[06:56] <ramirand_> Gnea: Nice, hadn't read man man in a decade. Looks like it's gotten better.
[06:56] <skate2> gnea whats that do
[06:56] <Kira> I keep forgetting how to list the installation locations of a package in aptitude
[06:57] <Gnea> ramirand_: yeah it has
[06:57] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: you're running compiz, right?
[06:57] <Yossarian> yessir
[06:57] <Gnea> skate2: it lists every open port and socket
[06:57] <kansan> Gnea,  ;p
[06:57] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: apparently your Krusader problem is a known bug
[06:57] <Gnea> kansan: pardon?
[06:57] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1040008.html
[06:57] <Yossarian> ooh thanks :D
[06:57] <kansan> Gnea, i like that suggestion
[06:58] <hmw> russia213 - go to http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm and search the page for "uuid" to see an example. i am trying to figure out, how you get the UUID of your HD
[06:58] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: there's no solution there, but maybe with some googling you'll find one
[06:58] <Gnea> kansan: i usually check it out at least once a year :)
[06:58] <Yossarian> prince_jammys: i've done some googling but no real solution yet :\
[06:59] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[06:59] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: apparently not maximizing it works
[06:59] <hmw> russia213 - http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/02/how-to-find-your-uuids-for-devices-in-ubuntu-and-other-debian-based-distros/
[06:59] <prince_jammys> !blkid
[06:59] <quibbler> gladio70: /join #ubuntu-it
[06:59] <russia213> hmw: I'm just gonna go, hopefully I'll get somewhere tomorrow
[06:59] <Kira> How do I find out what files have been written by aptitude?
[06:59] <hmw> russia213 - bye & good luck!
[06:59] <Kira> (for a specific package)
[07:00] <Yossarian> prince_jammys: so it's either compiz or krusader
[07:00] <Yossarian> shatty choice to make :\
[07:00] <prince_jammys> Kira: you mean what files have been installed by a certain package?
[07:00]  * villasubrosa has fixed movie problem with "restricted formats" (maybe" g'nite and thanks for the security net and faq page
[07:00] <Gnea> Kira: like the contents of the package?
[07:00] <Kira> prince_jammys: yes
[07:00] <Kira> the full paths
[07:00] <TelQuel> hey, for some reason when downloading to my desktop it says I don't have enough space left to finish the download and yet I apparently have 7.5 GB left according to the system tab properties. The file is only 1 GB
[07:00] <prince_jammys> Kira: dpkg -L nameofpackage
[07:01] <Kira> thanks.
[07:01] <Kira> I keep forgetting
[07:01] <akash> hi
[07:01] <kansan> can symbolic links ever be relative?
[07:01] <Gnea> Kira: write it on a sticky note and paste it to the bottom of your monitor :)
[07:02] <hmw> kansan - they always are!
[07:02] <ramirand_> kansan: Sure.
[07:03] <hmw> kansan, ramirand_ i mean, the usually are, except they begin with /
[07:03] <kansan> hmw, everyone ive ever done was absolute
[07:03] <Slart> TelQuel: can you pastebin the output of "df -h" ?
[07:03] <kansan> hmw, so cant have a symlink that uses ../../foo ?
[07:03] <kansan> i.e. from current directory?
[07:03] <ramirand_> kansan: ln -sf foo ../bar      is perfectly valid.
[07:03] <hmw> kansan - you definetively can
[07:03] <ramirand_> kansan: Sorry, other way around.
[07:03] <kansan> link target
[07:03] <ramirand_> kansan: ln -s ../bar foo
[07:03] <kansan> oops wrong
[07:03] <kansan> target link
[07:03] <UndertakerX2> I have phpmyadmin installed but cant access it via www.localhost/phpmyadmin
[07:04] <kansan> i never really remember the syntax ;p
[07:04] <UndertakerX2> how can o fix this?
[07:04] <TelQuel> Slart, sure thing, just give me a sec
[07:04] <GuruDrew> UndertakerX2, Add phpmyadmin to your webroot? symlink it? Is phpmyadmin installed via apt-get?
[07:04] <hmw> kansan ramirand_ - you can imagine a symlink as a simple file containing a path. it can be relative or absolute. it will be resolved, when you try to access the file, that is linked. it'
[07:05] <kansan> hmw, ok makes sense
[07:05] <hmw> kansan ramirand_ - its not resolved, when the link is created! only after...
[07:05] <ari_stre1s> !apt-cache policy
[07:05] <UndertakerX2> gurudrew, yes it installed via apt-get
[07:05] <ari_stre1s> !apt-cache
[07:05] <ari_stre1s> hmm
[07:05] <TelQuel> Slart, ok well according to terminal (lesson being always listen to terminal not GUI) I have filled the partition ... thing is, I don't see how that coudl be true as I have little installed here.
[07:05] <UndertakerX2> GuruDrew: how do i make a link?
[07:05] <ari_stre1s> guys, what does apt-cache policy do? i don't get it from the man page
[07:05] <skate2> is there a command line calculator for ubuntu? so i can do simple math like 29 * 14
[07:06] <Flannel> skate2: qalc is one, there's also the tried and true bc.
[07:06] <ramirand_> kansan hmw: The cool thing is that the target doesn't have to be there. You can use that to your advantage sometimes. The problem, of course, is that the target doesn't have to be there... so you can mess up and make a link, thinking you got the target right, but you didn't.
[07:06] <skate2> flannel how do you do 2 + 2 with bc?
[07:06] <Slart> TelQuel: emptied the trash?
[07:07] <TelQuel> Slart, I guess some of my educational software might be large but I don't recall any of it taking long to download. Do you know of any fun games to play? Working a painfully boring night shift.
[07:07] <GuruDrew> UndertakerX2, 'man ln', usually ln -s, but read up on the usage
[07:08] <TelQuel> Slart, what is the aptitude command again to display packages by search string? I am trying to find out the package name for achilles life simulator... apparently it is not achilles-life-simulator
[07:08] <UndertakerX2> gurudrew, well let me ask this where is phpmyadmin installed at?
[07:08] <Slart> TelQuel: if you have a fairly modern computer there is a demo of Enemy Territory Quake Wars for download.. or look through the "games" section in synaptic
[07:08] <Slart> TelQuel: apt-cache search ?
[07:09] <Flannel> skate2: echo "2+2" | bc, similarly, "qalc 2+2"
[07:09] <skate2> ah echo 2+2 | bc
[07:09] <skate2> thanks
[07:09] <ImSad> Hey, my CD/DVD drive isn't really working, I can put a disk in, and it shows that it's there ( with the desktop icon) but I can't play it.
[07:09] <ramirand_> skate2: Try "echo $((2 + 2))"
[07:09] <ImSad> Can anyone help?
[07:09] <kansan> ramirand_, i didnt know that; thank you
[07:09] <TelQuel> Slart,  it is something I used before to search for package names installed already... I have a fairly modern computer though only integrated graphics
[07:09] <TelQuel> Slart, it involved "aptitude and using TAB"
[07:09] <Ultraputz> problem was solved by having dpkg reconfigure xorg-server
[07:09] <TecnaTranux> !ubottu help |Imsad
[07:09] <Slart> TelQuel: I don't know aptitude.. never used it..
[07:09] <TecnaTranux> meh wrong caommand
[07:10] <TelQuel> Slart, well how would you go about discovering the true identity of an installed app package? hehe.
[07:10] <Flannel> TecnaTranux: `dpkg -L | grep achilles` might be fine
[07:10] <Flannel> TelQuel: If you know the binary (or any file in the package) you can dpkg -S /path/to/file to figure out what package its provided by
[07:10] <Slart> TelQuel: you can get a list of installed packages using dpkg -l <-that's a lower case L... or use synaptic, there is a filter for installed packages
[07:11] <TelQuel> Slart, synaptic seems much slower and has a much higher fail-rate than does terminal
[07:11] <milligan_> I have a tar file, that contains a directory structure and some files. If I want to the get file /some/path/to/myFile/file.html , would the command be tar -xvzf tar.bz2 /some/path/to/myFile/file.html ?
[07:11] <Flannel> TecnaTranux: Just ignore that last bit.
[07:12] <ImSad> I have a Windows 7 disk, and I would like to try it out, but i can't boot it from start-up.
[07:12] <ImSad> Anyone have ideas?
[07:13] <Gnea> ImSad: this is what #windows is for
[07:13] <loafers> Is metacity the default windows manager for ubuntu?
[07:13] <Flannel> ImSad: This is #ubuntu, you may be interested in ##windows, they'll be able to help with windows issues.
[07:13] <TecnaTranux> I'msad, this is #ubuntu, not #windows.
[07:13] <ImSad> I got that.
[07:13] <ImSad> But I'm running ubuntu
[07:13] <Flannel> ImSad: You're looking to dual boot?
[07:13] <Gnea> ImSad: which has nothing to do with booting a windows disk.
[07:13] <prince_jammys> TelQuel: aptitude search i~ achilles
[07:14] <ImSad> and I could boot disks from start-up before installing ubuntu.
[07:14] <TecnaTranux> imsad, are you trying to make a duel boot?
[07:14] <gartral1> indows 7 is the first windows too aggressivly use its own bootloader... you have too swap drives out and use one JUST for windows
[07:14] <ImSad> I want to re-install.
[07:14] <Gnea> ImSad: did you check your bios settings?
[07:14] <ImSad> then after, re-install ubuntu.
[07:14] <ImSad> Yeah
[07:14] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, do I actually use a tilde or is that simply meant to signify TAB?
[07:14] <ramirand_> ImSad: Or run Windows 7 in a vm
[07:14] <hmw> ImSad: ubuntu isnt responsible to boot anything. your bios is. check your boot priority settings in the boot menu, make cd bootable.
[07:14] <ImSad> it searches for a while and then boots from HDD
[07:14] <gartral1> ImSad: i dont think you can dude
[07:14] <ImSad> :<
[07:14] <TecnaTranux> Imsad, make sure your bios boot order had cdrom before first hd
[07:15] <prince_jammys> TelQuel: no, that's a literal tilde. it's pretty much like dpkg -l '*achilles*'
[07:15] <ImSad> It runs boots fine on my other computer.
[07:15] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, thanks a lot, I don't like using the synaptic much as I
[07:15] <ImSad> and my cdrom is before hd
[07:15] <ImSad> it searches for a while, then skips the step
[07:15] <prince_jammys> TelQuel: they might have suggested using a tab to try to autocomplete the package name
[07:15] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, have had bad experiences already with it
[07:15] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, that is precisely what they were suggesting.
[07:16] <TecnaTranux> that's bizzare.  are you sure there's nothing wrong with the drive?
[07:16] <gartral1> like TecnaTranux says, reboot and drop into bios, and make sure your first boot device is your cdrom
[07:16] <ImSad> no
[07:16] <TecnaTranux> gartal1: he said he already checked
[07:16] <ImSad> not that I know of at least...
[07:16] <gartral1> also, its best too use the "master" cdrom in your drive chain
[07:16] <hmw> ImSad - your cd may be broken. try turning off "boot other device" or turning that on. try removing any boot drives and use the boot menu (appears often, when it says "press del to enter bios setup"
[07:17] <ImSad> It boots fine on my other computer, the windows 7 disk
[07:17] <hmw> ImSad - anyways - dont use windows *g*
[07:17] <TecnaTranux> Imsad, do you have more than one cdrom drive?
[07:17] <prince_jammys> TelQuel: the name of the package seems to be just 'achilles', though. :)
[07:17] <ImSad> just one.
[07:17] <prince_jammys> !info achilles > TelQuel
[07:17] <mansour> alslam 3lekm
[07:17] <mansour> arabic
[07:17] <hmw> TecnaTranux ImSad using the boot menu should definetively make the machine trying to load the boot sector from the selected drive
[07:17] <mansour> help arabic
[07:17] <Flannel> !sa | mansour
[07:17] <TelQuel> prince_jammys,  yeah I got it sorted out but thanks... good to get more practice managing packets myself.
[07:18] <mansour> hi
[07:18] <gartral1> actually, ive heard alot of good reprots on windows build 7001
[07:18] <Gnea> ImSad: if I were you, i'd /join ##windows and ask them, it sounds like a problem they'd know about
[07:18] <mansour> سلام
[07:18] <ImSad> I'll try
[07:18] <TecnaTranux> imsadimsad, try what hmw said
[07:18] <mansour> سلام
[07:18] <Gnea> monstah: please stop.
[07:18] <Flannel> mansour: english only here.  /join #ubuntu-arabic
[07:18] <Gnea> monstah: sorry
[07:19] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, ok, so it still says most of my hard drive space is used... how do I find out what is eating it  up so badly? Seems to me that I only have bare essentials of ubuntu on a 12 GB partition and should have more than 0 GBs free. There is something I am missing
[07:20] <mansour> هل تنصحوني ان ارقي الى 8.04 ؟
[07:20] <loafers> English?
[07:20] <Flannel> TelQuel: check /var/log for runaway log files
[07:20] <Flannel> mansour: /join #ubuntu-arabic  Please speak english here.
[07:20] <Gnea> !arabic | mansour
[07:20] <gloub> join#fedora.fr
[07:21] <TelQuel> it claims to be quite small
[07:21] <TelQuel> is there another way to check other than the GUI? because I am getting the impression that for whatever reason the GUI is incorrect in its estimation of my space.
[07:21] <ashlessburn> i having issues with my system i ran a few programs over the last few days and now when i boot i have the selectioin menu on what too boot from what did i delete or need to do so it boots automatically
[07:22] <Flannel> TelQuel: You can use baobab to figure out whats using what.  Try df and du as well, for the terminal.
[07:23] <CAiRO_> can somebody recommend any gnome music player apart from rhythmbox?
[07:23] <ramirand_> TelQuel: sudo du | sort -rn | head       <- Might help if you know which files / directories are taking up the most space.
[07:23] <dimedo> can anyone tell me how to set a correct new xorg resolution for my fullhd tv via xrandr?
[07:23] <hmw> CAiRO_ go to add software and search for "winamp" - there is a clone out there, which is quite ok
[07:24] <w6> wer
[07:24] <TelQuel> ramirand_, there we are... thanks. I forgot I tested DVD ripping software on this thing and it clearly did not delete after burning. That's the culprit.
[07:25] <regex-hater> Why dosent the following command worj echo "abcde abcde es" | sed 's/'a*'/f/'    I want to replace all a with f
[07:26] <regex-hater> this only replaces the first a
[07:26] <ramirand_> regex-hater: try sed 's/a/f/g'
[07:26] <ashlessburn> anyone?
[07:27] <ramirand_> regex-hater: trailing g means keep going - don't stop after the first sub.
[07:27] <regex-hater> It works!
[07:27] <regex-hater> thanks
[07:27] <regex-hater> :P
[07:27] <ScottG489> Whats some good software to use my webcam on my laptop. Any software really, like just to use it for taking pictures or recording, not just as a webcam
[07:28] <jtre> hi, I'm trying to get sms_client working, it wants the device name of my modem but I connect through ethernet (eth0) is there another device I can put in to get it working?
[07:28] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: that sounds like the grub menu - doesn't it just timeout and pick the default?
[07:29] <ashlessburn> after awhile but it use to be auto, installed the apt-get splashy didnt like it removed it and i seem to get this boot. not a issue system starts fine. but its just annoying'
[07:29] <TecnaTranux> was anyone here logging the past 24 hours?  I lost my log and need the nick of someone i'm trying to help.
[07:29] <mick_laptop> anyone know how i can troubleshoot my monitor turning itself off and on every few minutes?
[07:29] <Flannel> !logs | TecnaTranux
[07:29] <mick_laptop> it gets annoying when every 15 minutes your screen goes black
[07:30] <TecnaTranux> oh good.  i forgot about that.  *facepalm*
[07:30] <cast|lir> mick_laptop: maybe its some fubar powersaving setting
[07:30] <kraut> moin
[07:30] <cast|lir> mick_laptop: is  it exactly 15 minutes, is it only when you're not using it?
[07:30] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: I've never installed splashy. You should be able to change the grub timeout to be like 1 second if you want, though.
[07:30] <mick_laptop> nope, i'm using it and i'm guessing w/ the 15 minute figure
[07:31] <mick_laptop> i can clock it though (next time it happens)
[07:31] <hmw> mick_laptop - it goes blank and comes back imediately after?
[07:31] <mick_laptop> hmw: yes
[07:31] <cast|lir> mick_laptop: aye, measure it for two more occurances, if we can say its say, exactly 900 seconds thats a lot different to it  being random intervals
[07:31] <ashlessburn> how, not going to lie just got off work is there a script(shell) or a known thing
[07:32] <yinxiao> #ubuntu-cn
[07:32] <mick_laptop> well is there a log that io can look at?
[07:32] <hmw> mick_laptop i know the problem... but forgot what it was exactly. if i am right, its some sort of driver issue. it gets less often, when i reduced the refresh frequency
[07:33] <yinxiao> ./nick yx
[07:33] <req^> Is it good practice to report the most active ssh bruteforce attempts? I just noticed I forgot denyhosts from my new install and in one day there were 600+ attempts from a guatemalan IP :P
[07:33] <mick_laptop> it started after an upgrade so that could be driver issue
[07:33] <cast|lir> req^: i wouldnt bother
[07:34] <hmw> mick_laptop - my windows boxes do it, too.
[07:34] <req^> yeah I kind of thought it wouldn't do any good :7
[07:34] <mick_laptop> oh i'm sorry that you have windows boxes
[07:34] <cast|lir> req^: generally i gather reporting it to anyone only has a very small chance of having anything done
[07:34] <mick_laptop> my condolences
[07:34] <hmw> mick_laptop i suspect some sort of potential to raise, until the card decides to reset the output chip or something alike
[07:34] <yinxiao> dss
[07:34] <cast|lir> req^: setup port knocking, or whitelisting :)
[07:35] <cast|lir> req^: if it annoys you, anyway, its not a security issue in itself
[07:35] <req^> I'll look into that, thanks :)
[07:35] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: I'm pretty sure all you need to do is update /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:36] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: Not sure if there's anything beyond that, though.
[07:36] <Roken> Does anyone else notice crap speeds using Transmission for torrents, or is it just me?
[07:36] <ashlessburn> telling me permission denied
[07:37] <ashlessburn> and im doing it under rot
[07:37] <ashlessburn> root
[07:37] <jtre> incase people were interested you can't send sms messages without dialing up on a modem (so the telcos get their fee)
[07:38] <cast|lir> jtre: there is a xmpp based sms service :)
[07:38] <jtre> really?
[07:38] <xxCody> Im having slight problems. I really don't know a lot about connections and i don't think i could use the bridge-util in the terminal. Is there another way (easier) to bridge connections?
[07:38] <ndlovu> is there some way to use apt to work out which repo a package is in?
[07:38] <cast|lir> aye, they were a bit cheaper than my carrier, maybe 50%ish, but still - sms is expensive
[07:39] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: So, sudoedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    gives permission denied?
[07:40] <cast|lir> jtre: aspsms.com
[07:40] <WishingMaster> ashlessburn: you can use a program called start-up manager
[07:40] <jtre> thanks cast
[07:41] <WishingMaster> ashlessburn:it gives you a lot of options to manuplate grub and to repair it as well
[07:41] <ashlessburn> what is the default for the grub
[07:41] <error404notfound> how can I setup trac with exiting git on ubuntu 8.10?
[07:41] <ramirand_> WishingMaster: Thanks, great tip.
[07:41] <WishingMaster> the latest kernel i guess
[07:42] <WishingMaster> ramirand_:welcome
[07:43] <cast|lir> error404notfound: bit specialized for this channel, trac has a community, id ask them
[07:44] <ashlessburn> brb
[07:45] <error404notfound> 3 issues. 1. My top and bottom panels keep disappearing, everytime I have to rename .gnome2 and restart gdm to get them work. 2. Mic doesn't work if I close volume manager. The mic section gets muted again if I close volume manager. 3. Fonts of applications in wine are not appearing correctly though I install corefonts using winetricks.
[07:45] <scientes> metcity is restarting like every 5 minutes
[07:45] <scientes> what is going on
[07:46] <WishingMaster> error404notfound: did you select auto hide on panels?
[07:46] <lockd> how do you change the color theme for Qt? that's not an option in qtconfig
[07:46] <error404notfound> WishingMaster: no...
[07:47] <error404notfound> WishingMaster: they actually crash...i tried killall gnome-panel, it worked, but when  try to start gnome-panel again, there is already one running, I do kill -9, but then I can't start gnome-panel
[07:47] <error404notfound> even if its starts, nothing is displayed..
[07:47] <etoo> türk varmı türk
[07:48] <etoo> :))))
[07:48] <WishingMaster> you need a better person than me to guide you on this one,sorry bro couldn't help you much
[07:48] <WishingMaster> error404notfound:
[07:49] <WishingMaster> :(
[07:49] <etoo> aloooooo
[07:49] <etoo> turkısh
[07:49] <etoo> speak
[07:49] <etoo> varmı
[07:49] <Slart> !tr
[07:49] <etoo> wow
[07:49] <etoo> thanks
[07:50] <MethinX> Can anyone help me install a second NVidia Card so i can dual monitor support?
[07:50] <jim_p> hi people
[07:50] <cast|lir> MethinX: like, open the case and put it in a slot kidn of install?
[07:50] <jim_p> where can i find the aurora theme engine since its no longer in the repos?
[07:50] <MethinX> do I need new drivers? and if I do can I get them from sudo apt-get? o
[07:50] <MethinX> unfortuannatly its in the case now Im just trying to get it to work
[07:51] <lockd> jim_p: download all the dependencies by hand and rebuild it, or look for the debian package
[07:51] <Slart> MethinX: I dont think you need new drivers.. it's probably a question of configuration
[07:51] <Roken> Methinx, I don't think you can use 2 cards without SLI hardware support...
[07:51] <Slart> jim_p: have you looked at gnome-look.org?
[07:51] <puneeth> when is the firefox 3.0.7 update going to be seen?
[07:52] <MethinX> hmm, Im trying to find the new drivers for the second card but the second card doesnt have any info as to what version of Geforce it is
[07:53] <puneeth> 3.0.6 update for firefox...??
[07:53] <lockd> does anyone at all know how to change the qt4 theme without installing all of kde?
[07:53] <puneeth> !firefox
[07:55] <mukesh> c.ircsuper.net
[07:55] <mukesh> irc.ircsuper.net
[07:57] <lockd> hmm, I had to use a debugger just to find out where the theme file is
[07:57] <jim_p> lockd, Slart thanks, i was hoping for a repo solution. plus i wanted to see HOW is it compiled.
[07:59] <Slart> jim_p: yes, a repo solution would be better.. I have no idea why it isn't available any more.
[07:59] <lockd> repo solution for what, selecting themes?
[07:59] <lockd> or was that a mistell
[07:59] <jim_p> Slart, oh well, nevermind
[07:59] <jim_p> lockd, for a theme engine
[07:59] <Slart> lockd: for the aurora theme engine
[08:00] <lockd> aurora theme engine is gtk2, right?
[08:00] <jim_p> lockd, yea
[08:00] <lockd> make sure to use checkinstall so you can rip it out if it causes crashes every 5 seconds. I installed a fairly buggy theme engine that prevented me from using the chooser
[08:01] <BlackDex> Hello there
[08:01] <lockd> but that's because Ubuntu only half-cares about running gtk1 apps
[08:01] <BlackDex> I have a huge problem
[08:01] <cast|lir> uh...checkinstall is scary :P
[08:01] <BlackDex> my mouse isn't working anymore in gnome
[08:01] <BlackDex> also no keyboard commands are working
[08:01] <jim_p> lockd, i use some other method to set my gtk1 theme that involves text editing
[08:01] <BlackDex> i tryed several mouses
[08:02] <BlackDex> tried
[08:02] <BlackDex> USB or PS/2
[08:02] <lockd> I never edit anything, just symlink stuff around
[08:02] <BlackDex> if i start with the Live CD it works
[08:03] <BlackDex> keyboard seems to work to get to other consoles
[08:03] <BlackDex> like i am on an other now
[08:03] <jim_p> BlackDex, look in google for keybord/mouse not working with xorg 1.5
[08:03] <BlackDex> jim_p: ok.. ill check
[08:03] <jim_p> :)
[08:04] <Out_Cold> anyone know what the apache2.conf file is named or located?? it's not in /etc/apache2/*
[08:04] <ndlovu> I was using nvu for basic html editing, but I see that it's now dead. what's a good replacement? Kompozer seems to be the default, but is seamonkey composer any good?
[08:05] <cast|lir> ndlovu: i like composer, personally
[08:05] <jhass840> Is anyone around?
[08:05] <jim_p> Out_Cold, in /etc maybe?
[08:06] <jhass840> How do I set my java classpath?
[08:06] <jim_p> ndlovu, quanta if you dont mind kde apps
[08:06] <ndlovu> jim_p, isn't komposer also kde?
[08:06] <Out_Cold> jim_p, nope. I installed apache2 but there is nothing with apache2.conf using 'locate apache2.conf'
[08:07] <jim_p> ndlovu, oddly no. kompozer is gtk
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: Be warned that Kompozer is a bit broken in 8.10.  A fix is on the way, but not ready quite yet.  (Feel free to harass me about it occasionally though.)
[08:09] <Flannel> Out_Cold: apache2.conf should exist in /etc/apache2/  but its not the only configuration file.
[08:09] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso, as it happens I'm still on 8.04, so should be okay for now, thanks
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: excellent.
[08:09] <ndlovu> jim_p, that is weird, goes against the general naming convention...
[08:10] <jim_p> ndlovu, i know. the relevant kde app is quanta
[08:10] <ndlovu> well, if kompozer is gtk, I'll try it, but I might also give quanta a look as well.
[08:10] <Out_Cold> Flannel, that whole directory is null... but i'm trying to start up apache2 for a disk that already had it installed..
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: Quanta is nice as well from what I've heard, but with less wysiwyg.
[08:12] <Flannel> Out_Cold: Alright.  What version of Ubuntu is this?
[08:12] <Out_Cold> 8.04 server
[08:12] <Out_Cold> i reinstalled over the / but not the /var or /home
[08:12] <Flannel> Out_Cold: Ok.  Do this: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm-prefork && sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:13] <Flannel> not over /var?  thats... interesting.
[08:13] <Out_Cold> had all my ftp and www
[08:14] <Flannel> And dpkg state and a few other things ;)
[08:14] <Out_Cold> see now that's something learned..
[08:14] <tv7497> http://122.167.72.248 guys does this work ????
[08:15] <Flannel> tv7497: Yes
[08:15] <Out_Cold> tv7497, yes
[08:15] <Flannel> tv7497: But, in the future, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:15] <Roken> lol
[08:15] <tv7497> Flannel: ok sir wanted to check was the lamp working properly
[08:16] <Roken> Well, his server is running apache =P
[08:16] <Out_Cold> i don't know enough about apt-get and all it's capabilities...
[08:16] <Out_Cold> with linux it's always one problem after another though lol
[08:17] <Roken> tv7497, what doc / icon set are you using? Also, whats that icon doing there to the right of the dock?
[08:17] <koshari> Out_Cold your in for an interesting ride
[08:17] <Roken> Oh nice, he leave >.>
[08:17] <Roken> leaves*
[08:17] <cast|lir> Out_Cold: strange, its just like that in windows :o
[08:17] <Flannel> Out_Cold: I'll just say right now: You're going to have problems from that leftover /var stuff.  It may be a good idea to maybe move your ftp and www stuff somewhere else, and reinstall properly (move them to /home temporarily, etc)
[08:17] <Out_Cold> cast|lir, but at least you can have fun in Linux
[08:17] <koshari> cast|lir windows has package managent?
[08:18] <Roken> koshari, you didn't know? Its called google every peice of software you have installed
[08:18] <lockd> uh isn't that the slackware package manager?
[08:19] <Roken> >.>
[08:19] <Out_Cold> yea Flannel all over that.. I just have a relative riding me for a web page.. I was trying to get a local setup before I fixed the rest
[08:19] <LSD|Ninja> Does NetworkManager do static IPs properly yet?
[08:19] <Roken> Hrm, someone might want to tell tv7497 not to broadcast that he just put a server up at his home IP, rofl
[08:20] <BlackDex> hmm still no luck
[08:20] <BlackDex> still no mouse or keyboard in gnome
[08:20] <BlackDex> reconfigured xorg.conf etc.. no go
[08:21] <lockd> I'm not sure NetworkManager does anything properly yet.
[08:21] <Tekno> I love it
[08:21] <Tekno> works neatly with my hsdpa modem
[08:21] <lockd> overzealous autoconfig
[08:22] <oz1> anyone know how to activate bridge between several network cards? im using xubuntu eth0 > eth1
[08:22] <lockd> well, modems are notoriously difficult to configure yourself. I'm quite surprised
[08:22] <cast|lir> koshari: it sure does,
[08:23] <lockd> I was blamed for a bridging/routing loop after running NM for only a single day. When I ripped out that package, nothing else happened
[08:23] <lockd> sure, it could have been another part of the network. but I'd rather be safe
[08:29] <Daemon> how do i create an icon on my desktop that links to an app?
[08:30] <Out_Cold> Daemon, right click the desktop and select launcher.. the apps are in /usr/bin/
[08:31] <Out_Cold> i forget where the icons are
[08:31] <Out_Cold> Daemon, see if it's in the list where the icon is
[08:34] <Out_Cold> ssssshhhhh!!!!!
[08:37] <Out_Cold> if i sudo scp do i get super user on the remote or host?
[08:37] <Daemon> out_cold downloaded a game to home folder how do i create launcher for it?
[08:38] <Out_Cold> Daemon, look for the bin file for it
[08:38] <Out_Cold> then add that to a launcher
[08:38] <hmw> Out_Cold - using sudo lets the specified program run as root, on the machine, where you typed the command. if it will be root on the other side depends on how you "login"/connect on the other pc
[08:39] <Out_Cold> yea.. well i suppose i need a root password on the other box then...
[08:39] <inspired> I have a script run by cron which executes a few commands. every command but /etc/init.d/freeradius restart works when run by cron. when run manually everything works. I found out that using sudo to run /etc/init.d/freeradius restart also makes the script work in cron. the job is run by root's crontab. any idea why I need the sudo??
[08:39] <hmw> Out_Cold - i guess, if you sudo scp, it will try to login the other side as root, too.
[08:40] <Daemon> out_cold were would  i find thebin file?
[08:40] <inspired> Out_Cold, sudo scp username@box.com ?
[08:41] <cappiz> server 8.10 - how is the motd generated?
[08:41] <inspired> if you actually wanted to sudo on your machine and transfer to a normal user on the remote machine
[08:41] <Out_Cold> inspired, yea.. that gives super use on the box.com?
[08:41] <jstanley> Out_Cold: you still need a password
[08:41] <inspired> Out_Cold, no, that gives you sudo on your local box and a normal user on the remote
[08:41] <jstanley> and the same can be achieved with ssh root@box.com
[08:41] <jstanley> ssh just uses the username you are currently logged on as if you don't specify a different one
[08:42] <Out_Cold> yea so i need to set up a root password on a fresh install to get root@@box
[08:42] <Out_Cold> and Daemon look for the file that runs the game. perhaps it's source if you just downloaded it to your desktop
[08:42] <Roken> Anyone here have a Zune and transfer music to it using Ubuntu?
[08:43] <jstanley> Roken: you mean 'anyone want to admit to owning a zune?' ;)
[08:43] <Roken> Pft, I have one
[08:43] <Roken> I like the screen size
[08:43] <Out_Cold> admits to not owning one
[08:43] <jstanley> i don't have any mp3 player
[08:44] <hmw> what is a zune? lol
[08:44] <koshari> Roken *pity*
[08:44] <jstanley> hmw: microsoft mp3 player
[08:44] <arcamis> I'm having a problem with the latest kubuntu amd64 install cd
[08:44] <Slart> jstanley: come on.. don't kick people who are already down.. he has a zune.. have some pity ;)
[08:44] <jstanley> ;)
[08:44] <Roken> I bought mine about 2 years before I even knew what Linux was, so shhh =P
[08:44] <Out_Cold> they need to make a ogg portable player
[08:44] <inspired> Out_Cold, you don't want to log into a box as the root user
[08:44] <arcamis> I can boot into the livecd
[08:44] <inspired> I strongly advice you not to
[08:44] <arcamis> and use the KDE desktop environment and everything
[08:44] <Slart> Roken: I'm sorry... just kidding.. how does the zune work on windows? you use some kind of "itunes for microsoft" to transfer music to it?
[08:44] <Out_Cold> why inspired? i need root access to scp some stuff..
[08:45] <inspired> why do you need root access?
[08:45] <truth> Can somebody please tell me why the internet access on my system 76 keeps dropping? I am very close to my router
[08:45] <inspired> logging on as root is a horrible security mistake
[08:45] <koshari> Slart i beleive they use the "plays for sure" format
[08:45] <Roken> Yes, slart, but to be honest I like it over the clunky itunes interface
[08:45] <Slart> truth: does the whole network go down? or just internet?
[08:45] <Out_Cold> it's a local network
[08:45] <arcamis> and it appears as though I can install the system to my hard disk
[08:45] <arcamis> however, once I do so
[08:45] <arcamis> and reboot the system
[08:45] <arcamis> I get to the kdm screen
[08:45] <arcamis> log in
[08:46] <arcamis> and get dumped into a bunch of weirld unicode characters in varous fonts
[08:46] <arcamis> weird*
[08:46] <Slart> Roken: have you looked at amarok for example? it handles ipods, perhaps it can talk to zunes too?
[08:46] <Roken> The reason I was asking if anyone does it is because I know theres a port for apple's itunes on Linux, and people have tweaked it to run in Wine, but I'm not sure about Zune's software
[08:46] <truth> Slart: just the internet. Sometimes it says I'm still connected, sometimes it doesn't
[08:46] <arcamis> nothing happens, my sytem just freezes
[08:46] <Slart> truth: what is this "it" ? network manager?
[08:46] <Roken> I'll just have to google it, I guess. I was hoping someone in here could point me in a direction, though. Thanks, Slart =]
[08:46] <arcamis> it doesn't respond to c+a+backspace or c+a+f*
[08:47] <arcamis> I'm using an HP pavilion dv7
[08:47] <Out_Cold> inspired, you are referring to internet security?
[08:47] <truth> Slart: no the internet icon on the top right corner
[08:47] <Slart> Roken: you're welcome.. let us know if you find something
[08:47] <Slart> truth: are you sure that isn't the network manager?
[08:47] <arcamis> I have ubuntu's root partition on sda6, an extended partition of sda4 in ext3 format
[08:47] <arcamis> boot is on sda1 and /home is on sda7
[08:48] <arcamis> I could really uses some assistance because I don't know what to google for this problem
[08:48] <Slart> truth: where you have "connection information", settings for vpn and such
[08:48] <arcamis> and it is preventing me from using my computer at all at this point
[08:48] <truth> Slart: I'm not sure... I can tell you a macbook has a much better and more stable connection
[08:48] <truth> Slart: should i go into that?
[08:49] <inspired> Out_Cold, you should never expose your box to root logins. period
[08:49] <whuffor> 11
[08:49] <Slart> truth: no, just wondering if that is where you're getting information from
[08:49] <inspired> Out_Cold, you can probably scp the files over to a normal user and give that user the permissions it needs to do whatever it has to do with those files
[08:49] <truth> Slart: just the blue bars, and whether or not I can use firefox
[08:50] <Slart> truth: what kind of internet connection do you use? wireless? wired? modem?
[08:50] <arcamis> it seems absolutely absurd that a supposedly graphical based distro would be unable to install the X server properly on my machine
[08:50] <truth> Slart: wireless
[08:50] <Kephu> hi, I have a wget question: what options do I set to make it appear as a normal browser to servers I'm wgetting from?
[08:50] <Out_Cold> inspired, the permissions are for files in /var/www so i'd need to ssh to change the permissions before i scp'd them
[08:50] <kansan> sudo: unable to resolve host ec2-67-202-1-110.compute-1.amazonaws.com  .... this looks very bad.... should i be concerned?
[08:50] <Slart> Kephu: there is a switch to set user agent.. man page has more info
[08:51] <inspired> Out_Cold, can you explain what you're trying to do?
[08:51] <Kephu> Slart: the problem is that the manpage is HUGE, I was kinda hoping somebody'd remember it offhand ;)
[08:51] <inspired> kansan, no, it's harmless
[08:51] <cappiz> server 8.10 - how is the motd generated?
[08:51] <plutonian> is ubuntu supposed to dump me into a black screen full of random unicode characters that doesn't recognize input as soon as I install, reboot, and log in to kdm?
[08:51] <jstanley> does anyone know what ubuntu's name for the device files is? i don't have /dev/hd*
[08:51] <cappiz> i can see motd-update runs every 10 min
[08:51] <Slart> truth: ah.. you're having problems with your wireless connection.. or the connection from the wireless router to the internet.. I'm not really good with wireless connections so you might want to ask the channel again
[08:52] <cappiz> but is there a templater?
[08:52] <cappiz> -r
[08:52] <Slart> jstanley: hard drives are /dev/sdXX
[08:52] <jstanley> Slart: but i'm not on scsi
[08:52] <Out_Cold> inspired, back up /var/ftp and /var/www via scp on a local network. the permissions are already root i believe.
[08:52] <plutonian> because right now it seems to be the least user-friendly distro I've ever used
[08:52] <truth> Slart: ok, thanx anyway. do you recommend a better way for me to ask my question?
[08:52] <Slart> plutonian: nope.. that isn't the way it's supposed to work
[08:52] <plutonian> or the most, if one takes the GNOME view of things
[08:53] <corey__> does anyone here use SCITE? I'm trying to figure out how to turn of filetime checking, since my files are remotely stored and it causes MUCH lag when I navigate the file tabs
[08:53] <jstanley> corey__: i tried it once; didn't like it
[08:53] <Slart> truth: mention that you are using wireless.. try to find out what the wireless chip is called.. lspci can give you more info there.. that's about it I think
[08:53] <corey__> jstanley, what did you choose as an alternative?
[08:53] <truth> Slart: thanx
[08:53] <Slart> truth: and it's the network connection .. not internet connection.. your internet connection is probably working fine
[08:54] <truth> Slart: thanx so much
[08:54] <inspired> Out_Cold, you are root on your local box and need to back up those files by sending them to another server? I'd tar.gz the files including their whole directory structure and scp them to a normal user on the remote box. tarring preserves the original permissions and ownerships
[08:54] <Slart> truth: you're welcome, hope you figure out what is wrong
[08:54] <plutonian> I can't figure out why this thing is messing up so badly
[08:54] <plutonian> I'm using the livecd environment just fine
[08:54] <Slart> corey__: scite does filetime checking?
[08:54] <mukesh>   /server irc.ircsuper.net
[08:54] <plutonian> and I can get to the KDE login screen with no problems
[08:54] <inspired> making all mod_openzap
[08:54] <inspired> cc1: warnings being treated as errors
[08:54] <inspired> src/testtones.c: In function ‘teletone_handler’:
[08:54] <inspired> src/testtones.c:13: error: ignoring return value of ‘write’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result
[08:54] <Slart> corey__: ah.. to see if it has to reload the files?
[08:54] <plutonian> but as soon as KDE starts to load my computer crashes
[08:54] <FloodBot3> inspired: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:54] <inspired> anyone seen this? showed up a few days ago
[08:54] <plutonian> completely fresh install
[08:54] <Slart> inspired: don't paste here.. use a pastebin
[08:55] <truth> Hi. My network Connection is unstable with my laptop, but not with macbooks in the house. Can someone please help?
[08:55] <Slart> !pastebin | inspired
[08:55] <inspired> oops, sorry!
[08:55] <inspired> nm. wrong chan anyway
[08:55] <plutonian> is my problem a complete anomoly?
[08:56] <anom01y> I am trying to make a shortcut in xfce, but the command      LANG=en_US wine 'path/file.exe'    gives me an error "no such file/directory LANG"
[08:56] <Slart> plutonian: I've never heard of anything like that
[08:56] <anom01y> the command works perfect in xterm, konsole, or kde shortcuts even
[08:56] <corey__> Slart, I wish to not have it check for an update on the file time/size
[08:56] <Slart> plutonian: check the logs for errors.. especially /var/log/X11/xorg.0.log
[08:56] <Slart> corey__: I'll have a look.. see what I can find
[08:56] <corey__> Slart, my files are on a remote server which I am accessing via sshfs. It causes about ~5 seconds DELAY when switching to a different file.. horrible
[08:57] <hmw> anom01y make a shell script, that launches your thingy, and make a launcher that calls that launch script
[08:57] <ltracy__> plutonian, That happened to me once because my power supply was too small for my video card :)
[08:57] <corey__> Slart, I combed through the globals property file. Didn't find anything that had an effect on it.
[08:58] <jstanley> ltracy__: thanks for telling plutonian about the power supply. that may be the problem my dad has been having
[08:58] <plutonian> this is a brand new laptop, and the graphics card works perfectly fine under windows, arch, and gentoo
[08:59] <ltracy__> jstanley, It had me scratching my head for a bit :).  It only happened when I loaded real nvidia drivers
[08:59] <ltracy__> plutonian, Didn't figure it was really your problem.  Just reminded me of it
[08:59] <plutonian> Xorg.0.log has no lines beginning with (EE)
[08:59] <UndertakerX2> i have phpmyadmin installed but cant seem to access it via loaclhost/phpmyadmin. How can i fix this?
[09:00] <plutonian> hmm
[09:00] <plutonian> this makes no sense at all
[09:01] <plutonian> why would I be able to use the KDE on the CD but not the one on my hard disk?
[09:01] <ltracy__> plutonian, different drivers?
[09:01] <Out_Cold> plutonian, did you check your laptop in the hardware compatibility db?
[09:01] <ltracy__> well it shouldn't be x
[09:01] <ltracy__> actually if you get the login and you get no errors..
[09:02] <corey__> Slart, any luck?
[09:02] <Mood> does ubuntu server automatically close all ports? maybe in iptables?
[09:02] <Tekno> Hello
[09:02] <plutonian> Out_Cold: the what?
[09:02] <jstanley> Mood: that's a strange thing for a server to do :P
[09:02] <Tekno> how can I update 7.04->7.10 ?
[09:02] <Slart> corey__: I'm browsing the scite manuals.. nothing good yet
[09:02] <jstanley> Tekno: change /etc/apt/sources.list to the new repo, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:02] <anom01y> hmw, that shell script idea doesnt work :(
[09:03] <Mood> jstanley: i'm trying to determine whether it's a setting on the server side or the ISP side that closed port 21
[09:03] <Tekno> jstanley: i'm not sure if there is 7.10 repositories :|
[09:03] <hmw> anom01y - it should, i know the symptom. does the script work in terminal?
[09:03] <Slart> corey__: have you tried the load.on.activate setting?
[09:03] <Mood> port 21 could be closed on 1) server 2) router 3) cable modem 4) ISP... not sure how to isolate
[09:03] <jstanley> Mood: router is most likely
[09:03] <corey__> Slart, yes with no effect. I believe that setting is for when you target the Scite window, not for the files themselves.
[09:03] <jstanley> have you port forwarded it to your ubuntu machine Mood?
[09:04] <Out_Cold> plutonian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[09:04] <Mood> jstanley: yes, i've forwarded the ports
[09:04] <cheshair> i need an ubuntu based live cd. i just download 8.10 from this link: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download does it fit my needs? is the standard ubuntu cd suitable as a live cd?
[09:04] <jstanley> Mood: do you have any computers on a lan with the ubuntu server?
[09:04] <plutonian> if my laptop works with the live cd, why can it not work from the hard disk?
[09:04] <Mood> jstanley: it's odd since i was able to open port 3025 but not port 21.... yes, i have other computers on the lan
[09:04] <plutonian> is ubuntu not compatabile with extended partitions?
[09:04] <jstanley> Mood: go to another computer on the lan, and see if you can telnet to the ubuntu machine on port 21
[09:05] <Out_Cold> plutonian, it is..
[09:05] <Out_Cold> dunno..
[09:05] <Slart> cheshair: yes.. the standard desktop install cd is a live cd
[09:05] <Out_Cold> an anomaly maybe
[09:05] <cheshair> Slart: very kind of you, thank you so much!
[09:05] <Slart> cheshair: there is no other live cd available.. that one is the only one
[09:05] <UndertakerX2> i have phpmyadmin installed but cant seem to access it via loaclhost/phpmyadmin. How can i fix this?
[09:05] <Slart> corey__: nope..that was all I found..
[09:05] <Mood> jstanley: i physically cannot. the lan is in a different state :-( what would telnet via port 21 prove?
[09:06] <jstanley> UndertakerX2: do you have a web server running? is phpmyadmin in the document_root?
[09:06] <cheshair> Slart: now i can start my burn process then
[09:06] <zuher> hi everyone i just managed to join this chat after hard work , i see linux for the first time  ;P
[09:06] <hmw> anom01y can you start the script manually in the terminal?
[09:06] <UndertakerX2> jstanley, im running ubuntu desktop with apache,php,and mysql installed
[09:06] <jstanley> Mood: if you can't telnet on port 21 then it means something in your lan (most likely the server) is blocking (or not listening on) port 21
[09:06] <plutonian> my model is not listed in the hardware compatability list
[09:07] <UndertakerX2> jstanley: i dont see it in documents
[09:07] <plutonian> but I'm positive it's compatable
[09:07] <plutonian> because I'm using kubuntu just fine from the install cd
[09:07] <Mood> jstanley: ah. ok. is there a way to see only from the server machine whether port 21 is blocked or not being listened on?
[09:07] <jstanley> Mood: can you ssh to another machine on the network?
[09:07] <TechnaTranux> I have two problem, that are closely related.  to start with, my system keeps freezing.  I beleive that this is a sign that my swap partition may be corrupt.  does this sound right?  if not, what do you think the actual cause is?  if so, how should I fix this?
[09:07] <Mood> jstanley: nope. only ssh into the server :-(
[09:08] <plutonian> I'm going to try booting with my xorg.conf from arch linux
[09:08] <jstanley> Mood: i'm not sure if this works, but if the server's ip is 192.168.1.101, try 'telnet 192.168.1.101 21' from on the server
[09:08] <gngkai> hi
[09:08] <jstanley> hi
[09:08] <ltracy__> Mood, Might try nmap
[09:08] <redspike> How i get the AD permissions when i mount a windows share in debian? if i mount /server/share1$  to /mnt/share1 it says the owner of the files are root, but ill whant to get the real permissions from the ad ?
[09:08] <gngkai> can I use kernel 2.6.27 from intrepid for my hardy box?
[09:08] <Mood> ltracy__: i tried nmap. it states that port 21 is closed, but port 3025 (which i opened by port forwarding) is open
[09:09] <jstanley> Mood: i take it you have an ftp server running?
[09:09] <UndertakerX2> jstanley: any idea what to do?
[09:09] <TechnaTranux> can somebody tell me why my system keeps freezing?
[09:09] <Mood> jstanley: yes, vsftpd
[09:09] <Roken> Mood, what are you trying to do? FTP into a box on your lan?
[09:10] <Out_Cold> TechnaTranux, because it's in a fridge?
[09:10] <hmw> TechnaTranux it is probably afraid of the full moon
[09:10] <Mood> Roken: FTP into a remote box. i can ssh into it
[09:10] <TechnaTranux> guys... not cool
[09:10] <jstanley> UndertakerX2: i can't think of what might be broken
[09:10] <Roken> Mood, is it near you?
[09:10] <hmw> TechnaTranux you question cannot be answered
[09:10] <jstanley> are you typing phpMyAdmin with capitals?
[09:10] <jstanley> did you install it directly in the document root?
[09:10] <TechnaTranux> hmw: why not?
[09:10] <hmw> TechnaTranux there are literally millions of possible reasons, why a machine can freeze
[09:11] <Mood> jstanley: ahh, your idea of telneting port 21 from my server to my own server works (but it's not the remote server that i;m trying to get connected to)
[09:11] <UndertakerX2> jstanley: I instaled via apt-get install
[09:11] <Mood> Roken: nope. the machine i can ssh into is across the country
[09:11] <Out_Cold> TechnaTranux, .... nm.... hmw can take that
[09:11] <Slart> TechnaTranux: try to provide more information.. noone wants to play 20 questions with someone to get information from them
[09:11] <jstanley> UndertakerX2: were you typing capitals in the name?
[09:11] <Roken> netstat the box if you can remote into it
[09:11] <hmw> TechnaTranux lets try to get the neccesary info. did it not freeze before?
[09:11] <jstanley> UndertakerX2: it's almost certainly case sensitive
[09:11] <Roken> And make sure port 21 is set to listening
[09:12] <rinku> how can we ad new themes
[09:12] <UndertakerX2> jstanley: nope all lower case
[09:12] <Mood> Roken: what would i grep for? 21?
[09:12] <Slart> TechnaTranux: you can start by telling us what version of ubuntu you're running.. what kind of computer you have.. when does it freeze.. when you run a certain program? after a certain time? do you get any error messages in the logs? etc etc
[09:12] <TechnaTranux> it doesn't freeze while using live cd, so I know that it's not my RAM
[09:12] <jstanley> UndertakerX2: try it like 'http://localhost/phpMyAdmin'
[09:12] <TechnaTranux> i'm using hardy
[09:12] <rinku> can any one tell me how to install new themes in hardy
[09:12] <Roken> Mood, 1 sec
[09:12] <gngkai> anyone?
[09:12] <Roken> eating, lol
[09:13] <jstanley> gngkai: i don't see why you would do that
[09:13] <UndertakerX2> jstanley: nope that didnt work either
[09:13] <hmw> TechnaTranux - i suppose you used the live cd, it was ok, then you installed to HD and now it freezes? what else besides installing did you do? or really only install normally?
[09:13] <rinku> pllsssssssss anybody there
[09:13] <ranjithk_> rinku
[09:13] <gngkai> jstanley: I have huge problem about cooling
[09:13] <Roken> Mood, you shouldn't have to grep anything
[09:13] <ranjithk_> do u have gnome desktop or kde?
[09:13] <savvas> rinku: menu System > Prefences > Appearance
[09:13] <gngkai> read that 2.6.27 will fix this issue
[09:13] <rinku> gnome
[09:13] <gngkai> my cpu temp raises to 95C
[09:13] <jstanley> gngkai: why not upgrade everything to intrepid?
[09:14] <Roken> Mood, just remote into the box, open up terminal/command propmt (Is it running Linux?) and netstat
[09:14] <gngkai> jstanley:  better?
[09:14] <ranjithk_> go to gnome-look.org and download gtk 2.0 files
[09:14] <rinku> jstanley pls help me
[09:14] <TechnaTranux> my swap is on a separate drive from everything else, and that drive is rather old, so i'm suspecting a dammaged sector in my swap partition may be the cause, but I don't know how to test this
[09:14] <ranjithk_> they are the themes to ur gnome
[09:14] <jstanley> gngkai: upgrading the whole thing means there are no dependency errors
[09:14] <Mood> Roken: i'm netstat|more, i see the ssh via port 3025, but nothing about port 21
[09:14] <jstanley> rinku: i don't know how to install new themes, sorry
[09:14] <hmw> TechnaTranux you could turn off swap ...
[09:14] <rinku> can any one help me to install new themws
[09:14] <ranjithk_> rinku: you got it
[09:14] <rinku> themes*
[09:14] <jstanley> rinku: are there any in apt?
[09:14] <hackybg> http://myspace.com/hackybg
[09:14] <Roken> Mood, then your FTP application didn't open up port 21 on that box
[09:14] <rinku> no i din
[09:15] <Mood> Roken: hmm... i see what you mean
[09:15] <Slart> gngkai: 95C sounds very hot.. are you sure the heatsink is mounter properly? processor fan running properly?
[09:15] <rinku> ranjthk
[09:15] <Mood> Roken: perhaps it's my vsftpd
[09:15] <jstanley> Mood: ps aux | grep ftp
[09:15] <Slart> hackybg: not here
[09:15] <TechnaTranux> rinku: is there an application that i can use to scan the partition while using the live cd?
[09:15] <ranjithk_> rinku: go to gnome-look.org, download gtk 2.0 themes. right click on desktop--> themes. drag and drop ur downloaded file there. You got a new theme
[09:15] <Roken> The FTP application opens up port 21 and passes it to the transport layer (what you check with netstat)
[09:15] <gngkai> Slart: fan is running properly
[09:15] <hmw> TechnaTranux use "swapoff"
[09:15] <Slart> TechnaTranux: you can use fsck file system
[09:15] <Mood> jstanley: nothing comes up when is ps aux | grep ftp
[09:16] <TechnaTranux> slart: how?
[09:16] <ranjithk_> TechnaTranux> try gparted
[09:16] <jstanley> Mood: try /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[09:16] <Roken> Mood, atleast thats what I know so far from my Cisco class =P
[09:16] <hmw> TechnaTranux - does your pc have problems with other operating systems?
[09:16] <jstanley> Mood: if that doesn't work, try ls /etc/init.d | grep ftp
[09:16] <jstanley> and run start on whatever comes up
[09:16] <Slart> TechnaTranux: start the live cd, open a terminal, run "sudo fsck /dev/sdXX".. replace XX with proper values for your system
[09:16] <zuher> how can i see if i got beryl installed?
[09:16] <rinku> how to install new themes
[09:16] <Slart> TechnaTranux: or use gparted if you want a nice gui to do it in
[09:16] <Slart> !beryl | zuher
[09:16] <Mood> jstanley: i could've sworn i restarted the /etc/init.d/vsftpd...
[09:16] <Gorlist> ive gone into recovery, just installed a new ATI HD 4870 - tried to reset xorg, but still boots into a black screen.
[09:17] <jstanley> rinku: go to gnome-look.org like ranjithk_ said
[09:17] <Gorlist> any suggestions?
[09:17] <zuher> thanku
[09:17] <ranjithk_> rinku: I feel it is a bot..
[09:17] <c0l2e> how can I add a shared scanner from network?
[09:17] <ranjithk_> let kick it out? :P
[09:17] <jstanley> Gorlist: i had that problem, but recovery mode fixed it
[09:17] <jstanley> it's because xorg is now supposedly configured automatically
[09:17] <Gorlist> jstanley: hmm ive tried it with no succes
[09:17] <hmw> slart - do you think a damaged drive holding the swap would cause freezes usually? i have the impression, swap is not used at all unless memory is fully consumed, so i would expect problems only, when i start many programs or so. TechnaTranux
[09:18] <Gorlist> jstanley: did you run Xfix?
[09:18] <jstanley> Gorlist: nope
[09:18] <Gorlist> jstanley: sudo, reconfigure
[09:18] <jstanley> but it works in safe graphics mode, so i'm happy
[09:18] <Slart> hmw: sure.. a damaged swap would probably freeze the system.
[09:18] <jstanley> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[09:18] <jstanley> didn't fix anything
[09:18] <Gorlist> hmm see ive tried that
[09:19] <TechnaTranux> hmw: the freezes are never while i'm not doing alot, so its more likely than you think
[09:19] <zuher> zuher@zuher-desktop:~$ !beryl
[09:19] <zuher> bash: !beryl: event not found
[09:19] <zuher> zuher@zuher-desktop:~$ !compiz
[09:19] <zuher> bash: !compiz: event not found  not working :(
[09:19] <FloodBot3> zuher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <Roken> Mood, did you fix it?
[09:19] <hmw> TechnaTranux then try to check the drive. if no problems are found, type my name here again ;)
[09:19] <Slart> zuher: those commands are for writing here in the channel
[09:19] <Slart> !compiz
[09:19] <jstanley> Roken: i think /etc/init.d/vsftpd start fixed it
[09:19] <hackybg> http://myspace.com/hackybg
[09:19] <hackybg> http://myspace.com/hackybg
[09:19] <hackybg> http://myspace.com/hackybg
[09:20] <FloodBot3> hackybg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:20] <zuher> ooh lol sorry
[09:20] <Slart> !ops | hackybg
[09:20] <zuher> !beryl
[09:20] <Mood> Roken: nope. the process /etc/init.d/vsftpd was in fact running all along
[09:20] <starfruit> i thought 9.04 will feature vista theme. i don't see it as screen webpage
[09:20] <zuher> !compiz
[09:20] <jstanley> Mood: /etc/init.d/vsftpd shouldn't stay running
[09:20] <Roken> You ran netstat on the server, right?
[09:20] <jstanley> it should start the server and then exit
[09:20] <Mood> jstanley: i thought it was daemon process that ran in the background
[09:21] <sonoblaise> Hi, I just installed the ATI Catalyst drivers from the ATI website and I managed to get my screen res correct.  the thing is that my desktop is still in 1280x800 instead of being full screen in 1440x900
[09:21] <TechnaTranux> it's usually while i have several things open at once, like firefox, gimp, pidgin, and totem.  i'm scanning it now
[09:21] <jstanley> no Mood, /etc/init.d/vsftpd is the control process
[09:21] <c0p3rn1c> I'm getting some strange static when I try to play music in ubuntu 8.10, it used to work fine before, do I maybe need to restart the music server ?
[09:21] <sonoblaise> how do i fix this??
[09:21] <jstanley> the real server will be something like /bin/vsftpd
[09:21] <Mood> jstanley: ah, ok. i understand
[09:21] <jstanley> sonoblaise: i have exactly the same problem. i don't know how to fix it
[09:21] <Gorlist> jstanley: just reconfig, still goes to black screen - any chance I could see your xorg?
[09:22] <jstanley> sonoblaise: i think it's because xorg is now supposedly configured magically on it's own
[09:22] <jstanley> Gorlist: my xorg.conf is emprt
[09:22] <jstanley> *empty
[09:22] <TechnaTranux> hmw: i got an error from fschk
[09:22] <jstanley> i just booted the cd in safe graphics mode and it worked
[09:22] <jstanley> it wasn't at my native resolution
[09:22] <jstanley> and my native resolution wasn't on the list
[09:22] <Gorlist> you fixed your desktop install using livecd?
[09:22] <hmw> TechnaTranux in a way this is good news. i hope you can free up some space on the other drive for your swap.
[09:22] <TechnaTranux> no no no
[09:22] <TechnaTranux> hmw: it's not scanning
[09:23] <sonoblaise> jstanley: i used the default drivers for something like 3 months now because the fglrx on the ubuntu repository were not working.... and now i tried to install the website drivers...
[09:23] <c0p3rn1c> sonoblaise: stop your gdm and maybe let the X server configure it ?
[09:23] <TechnaTranux> hmw: it says fsck: fsck.swap: not found
[09:23] <TechnaTranux> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.swap for /dev/hdf1
[09:23] <sonoblaise> c0p3rn1c: how do i do that??
[09:24] <c0l2e> how can I add a shared scanner from network?
[09:24] <c0p3rn1c> sonoblaise: well you press ALT-F1, then you login, you type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then sudo X -configure, then copy the generated config file to /etc/X11/xorg,conf
[09:25] <integer> Hello all, i have 8.10, while setting screen resolution that went wrong and now, each applications window i run are opening maximised by default and they dont have close, minimize buttons, i tried to reset the resolution but its not happening as original, can any one help me please??
[09:25] <sonoblaise> ill try
[09:25] <hmw> TechnaTranux thats not the good news, i meant. i never tried to fsck a swap, and i get the same error here... ANYONE KNOW, HOW TO scan swap?
[09:25] <c0p3rn1c> sonoblaise: after that start the gdm server again ofcource
[09:26] <c0p3rn1c> sonoblaise: ok good luck
[09:26] <sonoblaise> thanks
[09:26] <c0p3rn1c> I'm getting some strange static when I try to play music in ubuntu 8.10, it used to work fine before, do I maybe need to restart the music server ?
[09:26] <TechnaTranux> hmw: forget scanning swap.  I'm deleting the partion table and expaning my etx3 partition accross that part of the drive
[09:26] <hmw> TechnaTranux ok
[09:27] <ndlovu> is there a version of awk or sed that works on formatted text?
[09:27] <TechnaTranux> hnw: it says its clean
[09:27] <TechnaTranux> so now i'm back to square one
[09:27] <hmw> TechnaTranux you could reformat the swap partition as a normal file system and scan it then
[09:27] <TechnaTranux> hmw: i just did
[09:28] <Slart> ndlovu: what do you mean by formatted text?
[09:28] <hmw> TechnaTranux ah, didnt see your last line. hmm... back to my question: do other operating systems have problems on this machine?
[09:29] <TechnaTranux> no.  faildows xp runs just fine(when it's installed)
[09:29] <hmw> TechnaTranux then its most probably a software problem. incompatible hardware is less likely. do you have some exotic hardware?
[09:30] <ndlovu> Slart, I've got a long document with lots of italic text, and I need to slice and dice it
[09:30] <taub> helo is there a simple way to remove all duplicate files in a folder?
[09:30] <ndlovu> Slart, afik awk and sed only work on plain text
[09:30] <TechnaTranux> i have a very old IDE controller that i added in
[09:30] <c0p3rn1c> how can I see if I use alsa or that other sound service ?
[09:30] <Yossarian> i have a toshiba satellite a130, running ubuntu 8.10 x64, and i was wondering if i can make the fingerprint reader work. i've installed fprint-demo but it says it can't find the device
[09:31] <ranjithk_> taub: try remove <filename>?
[09:31] <Slart> ndlovu: well.. if you've got a long document perhaps you could use a program to process it
[09:31] <hmw> TechnaTranux did you already examine the log files? /var/log/...
[09:31] <TechnaTranux> let me check them
[09:31] <ranjithk_> taub: if you mean duplicate with filename. [for ex: file, file1, file2]
[09:31] <taub> no i want to find all duplicate copies, nm have to use a shell script probably
[09:32] <ranjithk_> taub: you mean the contents of the file? does filename help you to identify the duplicate?
[09:32] <taub> no, just the contents
[09:32] <Ono> \join #tsiga
[09:32] <Ono> \join #TSIGA
[09:32] <kjell> /
[09:32] <ranjithk_> taub: cool. if it no relation with filename then you will have a wonderful time scanning the files.. enjoy :P
[09:33] <Slart> Guest25323: forward slash
[09:33] <ranjithk_> *if it has no
[09:33] <Mood> when i do a netstat, i don't see tcp port 21 LISTEN state... is that a problem?
[09:33] <ndlovu> Slart, any program you'd recommend? I need to do things like remove leading spaces, delete comma if it's the first character, etc.
[09:33] <Roken> Mood, are you running netstat on YOUR computer, or on the server?
[09:33] <Slart> taub: look at fdupes
[09:33] <AdvoWork> Hi there, if i normally do: //IP/backups$ /home/NewBackups  cifs exec in /etc/fstab  how can I manually do that outside of /etc/fstab?
[09:34] <Mood> Roken: on the remote server
[09:34] <Mood> Roken:  i do a netstat -an | more
[09:34] <Roken> Yes, thats a problem if you're trying to use FTP. SSH is port 22, and telnet is port 23
[09:34] <Mood> Roken: i see several open but no ports 21, 22, 23 open at all
[09:34] <Roken> (Note, thats by defualt, so unless you've played with anything, that should be the ports listening for FTP, SSH, and Telnet)
[09:35] <TechnaTranux> hmw: i don't see anything that I can't account for
[09:35] <Mood> Roken: I did not touch iptables
[09:35] <arcanex> hello
[09:35] <hmw> TechnaTranux does it boot - i mean: how far do you get, when you boot
[09:35] <arcanex> I have problem
[09:35] <connar> hi
[09:35] <hmw> !ask arcanex
[09:35] <Slart> ndlovu: well.. you seem very reluctant to mention what kind of document it is so "a program" is the best I can do
[09:36] <arcanex> My rythmbox (I think it's it fault)
[09:36] <Roken> Mood, what was it you said about port 3025-ish or something? What were you saying about that earlier?
[09:36] <connar> hmw: i need a command to remove installed files
[09:36] <arcanex> the sound is stoping for a while
[09:36] <arcanex> ;/
[09:36] <TechnaTranux> until this last freeze, it always booted.  i know why its not booting this time, and it's because it froze while apt-get was installing packages
[09:36] <arcanex> every song
[09:36] <Mood> Roken, i opened my ssh port 3025 (port forwarding and in my ssh settings) and it works beautifully. i tried the same with port 21 for FTP but with no luck :-(
[09:36] <arcanex> it stops sometimes for moment...
[09:37] <hmw> connar - uninstalling is easy, when you used apt-get or synaptics. it is hard, if you did something manually. try apt-get remove PACKAGE or use synaptics
[09:38] <connar> hmw: i actually copied some files in the /opt folder
[09:38] <Roken> Mood try and find out what ports your FTP client is using and open those
[09:38] <connar> hmw: and now i want to remove the files
[09:38] <arcanex> :/
[09:38] <arcanex> what can I do??
[09:38] <hmw> TechnaTranux i am almost out of my linux wisdom now. you could let a tail -f /var/log/syslog (or whatever it is in ubuntu) run in a ssh-session from the neighbour pc and look at the last output. ...
[09:38] <Mood> Roken: i'm using an xterm commandline as my FTP client
[09:38] <Mood> Roken: so i can specify which port
[09:38] <TechnaTranux> hmw: the system just completely freezes with no error messages or anthing, as if time itself stopped
[09:39] <Roken> The packets leaving your computer are not leaving on port 21, thats just the destination port on the server for you're traffic
[09:39] <Yossarian> bump
[09:39] <hmw> TechnaTranux: if youre lucky, you might find a pattern, when it crashes. if not, you could try to disable/remove as much hardware as possible
[09:39] <arcanex> and I have another question
[09:39] <connar> hmw: i tired sudo ap-get remove <folder name >...but it sayd cudnt find the <folder name>
[09:39] <kjell> Is it just me or does Lynx not work with many webpages?
[09:39] <arcanex> I installed XFCE, KDE on my Ubuntu with standard Gnome
[09:39] <Roken> Mood, what command are you using? Just FTP?
[09:39] <Debolaz> Is there a simple way to get kpdf in intrepid? I need it for some documents that other PDF readers has problems reading.
[09:39] <Mood> Roken: yes
[09:39] <hmw> TechnaTranux that's why i recommended using another pc and a login via ssh. let the log run with tail -f /filename and look at the last things, that appear. maybe a pattern emerges.
[09:39] <Mood> Roken: i've also tried ftp x.x.x.x 21 (and other ports, having port forwarded those as well)
[09:40] <arcanex> \I htink I will stay with my gnome.... but KDE is now my standard sesion.
[09:40] <JonSucker>  #TSIGA
[09:40] <connar> hmw: i want to remove Plone 2.5.2
[09:40] <TechnaTranux> do i see Anonymous comin??
[09:40] <Slart> kjell: I don't know if lyx does javascript.. and I guess the webworld still thinks ie6 is some kind of standard =/
[09:40] <arcanex> If I will uniistal it, I will have broken other graphics systems??
[09:40] <hmw> connar you usually dont undinstall folders, but packages. you need to apt-get remove PACKAGE-NAME
[09:40] <wtflol> can someone help me get my sound working...I'm hooked up with a digital optical cable
[09:40] <Slart> kjell: but you're right.. a lot of webpages do not work with lynx
[09:40] <Roken> Mood, when you do that, you're telling the FTP traffic to land on the SERVERS port 21, but they may be leaving your computer on Port 4590 for all we know, so I want you to do this
[09:40] <kjell> Slart: D'oh, needed to login to my router from work and open a port, haha.
[09:40] <connar> hmw: can i pm u?
[09:41] <kjell> Stupid zyxel.
[09:41] <Slart> kjell: I don't know of links is better.. or that other one w3e or whatever it's called
[09:41] <arcanex> fuck yourself everyone!!
[09:41] <arcanex> bye
[09:41] <wtflol> can someone help me get my sound working...I'm hooked up with a digital optical cable
[09:41] <kjell> Slart: Thanks, wikipedia says it supports javascript.
[09:42] <hmw> connar nope, i use epic icr... pms are not working for me well. use synaptics, find your "plone" package, uncheck and apply. should work in normal cases.
[09:42] <Roken> Open up two terminal windows, one for FTP and another for netstat if you don't already have these open. As soon as you try to FTP to the server in one window, do a netstat in the other. This is what I want you to look for: Under Foreign Address, look for the server ip and port 21. In the same row, but under the local adress column, grab the port number at the end of the IP
[09:42] <Debolaz> For instance, could I add the hardy repository to my ubuntu without ill effects?
[09:42] <Slart> kjell: oh.. might be something else then.. you have no way of testing it on a "normal" browser? just to see what it looks like?
[09:43] <Roken> Debolaz, if you're not running Hardy, it could get nasty.
[09:43] <kjell> Slart: Nah, I'm in my shell atm. i'm affraid.
[09:43] <kjell> Cant login. It misses a field I think :D
[09:43] <Debolaz> Roken: I'm running Intrepid.
[09:44] <eper3z_> why cant i see the files im sharing on my vista computer via network from ubuntu place>network
[09:44] <Debolaz> Roken: But I need an application that was removed in Intrepid. :/
[09:44] <Roken> What package is that, Debolaz?
[09:44] <Debolaz> Roken: kpdf
[09:44] <Roken> Is it a pdf reader?
[09:44] <Slart> kjell: bah..well.. I'm out of ideas then..
[09:44] <Debolaz> Roken: Yes.
[09:44] <zuher> i got 2 hdds on s-ata; ubuntu on one - formated as guid ; and windows on the other formated as ntfs , is there a way that i can see the windows harddisk in my linux? help please
[09:44] <Roken> You can't use another? lol
[09:45] <kjell> D'oh, links didn't work either. Thanks anyways Slart.
[09:45] <Debolaz> Roken: No, it's the only one I've found capable of opening the documents that I need to open.
[09:45] <Debolaz> Roken: all other ones, including okular, get very nasty bugs when opening very large files.
[09:45] <zuher> any1 ?
[09:45] <Roken> Debolaz, there are plenty of Ubuntu friendly pdf readers out there that you could try. Sorry to hear your package was removed, though =/
[09:46] <Slart> !ntfs | zuher
[09:46] <Debolaz> Roken: I've tried quite a few. xpdf, evince, etc.. Nothing works.
[09:46] <hmw> eper3z_ several problems possible. check network (ping?), try when firewall is disabled. check, if other workgroup. try smbtree in console. try smb://IP-OF-YOUR-VISTA-BOX. maybe this helps...
[09:46] <zuher> thnks
[09:46] <eper3z_> alrighty
[09:47]  * Debolaz ponders installing adobe acrobat in wine.
[09:47] <hmw> Debolaz try foxit reader
[09:47] <Slart> Debolaz: isn't adobe acrobat available for linux?
[09:47] <Roken> Debolaz, have you tried Epdfview or Xpdf
[09:47] <Slart> !acrobat
[09:48] <Debolaz> Slart: I've had stability issues with it.
[09:48] <Debolaz> Roken: Yes.
[09:48] <Debolaz> hmw: Hmm, will try.
[09:48] <kjell> When thinking of acrobat. Anyone got Photoshop to work?
[09:48] <Slart> Debolaz: oh..nevermind then
[09:48] <Slart> !appdb | kjell
[09:48] <kjell> Slart: Yeah, although not everyone enters their result there. Thats why I asked, might have been an update lately, will have a look. Thanks!
[09:49] <Debolaz> Slart: It's a tad bit ironic that proprietary win32 programs tend to be more stable under Linux than proprietary linux programs.
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> is there any program, i can takeover my active X11 instead of 2nd desktop over ssh or vnc?
[09:49] <Slart> kjell: mm.. I know.. I stopped using that site myself when they changed layout..
[09:49] <cirv9> hey boys. is there an open source alternative to flash/silverlight? for creating animations and such?
[09:49] <Slart> Debolaz: I think the work proprietary has more to do with it than the word linux =/
[09:50] <SuperGuy_9000> cirv9 OpenLazlo, not tried it but heard good things about it
[09:50] <eper3z_> hmw, ping is fine, firewall is off and  smb://192.168.1.116
[09:50] <eper3z_> bash: smb://192.168.1.116: No such file or directory   ???
[09:50] <cirv9> SuperGuy_9000: interesting, ill check it out
[09:50] <hmw> ah sorry, eper3z_ the smb:// is meant for nautilus
[09:50] <SuperGuy_9000> You're welcome.
[09:50] <hmw> eper3z_ what does smbtree say?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> is there any program, i can takeover my active X11 instead of 2nd desktop over ssh or vnc?
[09:51] <eper3z_> workgroup
[09:51] <zuher> !ntfs
[09:51] <Slart> lotuspsychje: x11vnc will do that
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> i tryed it slart, and local i can connect it tru http, but remote it refuses
[09:52] <eper3z_> hmw http://paste.ubuntu.com/114535/
[09:52] <Slart> lotuspsychje: might be a setting.. I use it daily to connect to my server
[09:53] <zuher> after trying to get wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter i get this unable to resolve host address `media.ubuntu-nl.org':((  what can i do?
[09:53] <Slart> lotuspsychje: I use a vnc client though.. not http
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> on the active desktoip slart?
[09:53] <Slart> lotuspsychje: yup
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> desktop
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> nice
[09:53] <eper3z_> hmw i dont even see the machine machine
[09:53] <eper3z_> its called EDWARD-PC
[09:53] <eper3z_> in that link i just pasted
[09:54] <plutonian> hm
[09:54] <eper3z_> that other Edward computer is the virtual guest hmw
[09:54] <plutonian> so I can get ubuntu working only from safe mode
[09:54] <plutonian> er, recovery mode
[09:54] <plutonian> from the Grand Bootloader screen
[09:55] <hmw> eper3z_ what machine is 67.63.55.3?
[09:55] <plutonian> what exactly is special about recovery mode compared to regular mode?
[09:55] <plutonian> if I reboot and start ubuntu normally, should I be fine?
[09:55] <eper3z_> i have no idea
[09:55] <eper3z_> hmw, how do i find out
[09:56] <eper3z_> i thought we were dealing wiht 192.169.1.1** numbers here
[09:56] <plutonian> I think restoring the xorg.conf was what was needed
[09:56] <hmw> eper3z_ and: can you get to the shares, if you type smb://IP-OF-VISTA in the nautlius file browser?
[09:56] <Kira> I'm having some really hard time getting svnserve to run as daemon on Hardy desktop.
[09:56] <jigp> hello is there a  text editor with clip library support? im a web developer
[09:57] <eper3z_> i see Edward-PC but it just stays blanks hmw
[09:57] <hmw> eper3z_ please pastebin the output of ifconfig and route
[09:57] <Kira> I'm trying to follow the script detailed here, substituting my username and group into it.
[09:57] <kj4> msg nickserv identify kj4 istillpoopmypants
[09:57] <Kira> but then I get open: Permission denied when I try "/etc/init.d/svnserve start"
[09:57] <Slart> jigp: tried bluefish?
[09:57] <SuperGuy_9000> I wanted to see the "Free the fish" easter egg, but now I don't know how to stop it. What do I do to get rid of it?
[09:57] <eper3z_> hmw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/114543/
[09:58] <dennda> SuperGuy_9000: killall gnome-panel
[09:58] <hmw> eper3z_ - it is possible, that there is a problem with encryption, but i dont know much about that, especially, when vista is involved. try to deactivate vistas firewall temporarily. also a good idea to check first, if other windowses see the vista shares before that.
[09:58] <jigp> Slart : ok im going to download it
[09:58] <SuperGuy_9000> thanks
[09:58] <jigp> Slart : thanks. I use dreamweaver and it is already expired
[09:58] <eper3z_> ahhh
[09:59] <eper3z_> but im able to reach my files from ubuntu from vista
[09:59] <Kira> (nvm, I'm too tired. I forgot about sudo)
[09:59] <Roken> jigp, use gedit ;)
[09:59] <Slart> jigp: you're welcome.. I'm not entirely sure it has a clip library.. it does have a lot of menus for inserting premade stuff.. there has to be a way to use that
[10:00] <Debolaz> hmw: Foxit was able to open the files. \o/
[10:00] <Slart> jigp: I mean if you want to put your own stuff in there instead of the default
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:00] <hmw> eper3z_ Debolaz great!
[10:00] <eper3z_> hmw, how can it be encryption when i can access ubuntu files from vista?
[10:00] <Debolaz> Not open source but at least it works. :-)
[10:00] <sonoblaise> thanks for the help c0p3rn1c...  i couldn't use your trick, but rebooting did it ;)  I used aticonfig --resolution=0,1440x900 and on reboot i could go in catalyst and select the good screen resolution
[10:00] <eper3z_> Foxit?
[10:00] <hmw> eper3z_ because your vista machin is running a different software to make the smb server. it *may* contain encryption unknown to the ubuntu smb-client
[10:00] <jigp> Slart : I explored quanta plus but it crashed.i cannot view my php codes
[10:00] <TelQuel> hey, is there a keypad shortcut to kill applications that are frozen? Tremulous keeps going to a small screen randomly and freezing on me.
[10:01] <TelQuel> I just sit there watching the game but I can't click anywhere
[10:01] <hmw> eper3z_ but thats just a guess. i might be totally wrong. i think it should work normally.
[10:01] <cast|lir> TelQuel: open up a terminal and use pkill, killall or kill
[10:02] <hmw> grrr if youre angry at your pc, and understand german, i recommend looking on youtube for "deichkind computer" - it always calms me down
[10:02] <hmw> joelxyza
[10:02] <mikevankuik> I've got 2 lacie firewire disks and I would like to set them in a RAID1 setting how can I do this under ubuntu?
[10:02] <cast|lir> mikevankuik: mdadm, could use lvm also
[10:02] <hmw> eper3z_ can you use another windows to check, if your vista is available via smb?
[10:03] <SliMM> hello
[10:03] <SliMM> i need a bit of help with kernel patching
[10:03] <eper3z_> not at the moment, no everyones asleep
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> !patch
[10:03] <TelQuel> cast|lir, I can't open a terminal as I cannot control my mouse... it just keeps playing the game but I can't actually interface with it.
[10:04] <hmw> eper3z_ i also found a strange thing in your route: your local host adapter uses 255.255.0.0 but the other net is using 255.255.255.0 as netmask. i dont know, if thats a problem.
[10:04] <kj4> i'm off to #bi-moms to pretend I'm a woman who rides bicycles, and have joined the channel think that is what it's about.  that's always fun!
[10:04] <mikevankuik> cast|lir: isn't there an easy (read:"n00b") way to fix this? I'm afraid I'd kill the RAID1 setting I've got my install on (2 internal 500Gb disks)
[10:04] <cast|lir> TelQuel: hit ctrl-alt-f1, then alt-f7 to come back when you're done
[10:04] <SliMM> ActionParsnip: yes, i know what patches are, but I don't know what kernel get to apply the 2.6.28-rc2-mm1 patch
[10:04] <eper3z_> hmw, how can i change it?
[10:04] <TelQuel> cast|lir, I feel like I tried that and it didn't work because it still thought I was "in the game" as it were. Hrm.
[10:04] <Roken> hmw, thats a problem. If they're connected to the same router, then its definently a problem
[10:05] <cast|lir> mikevankuik: raiding two external drives is a bit suspect ;P, coudl you get away with a nightly rsync instead? etc...
[10:05] <SliMM> so, what kernel should I get to patch 2.6.28-rc2-mm1?
[10:05] <zj3t3mju1> help me?
[10:05] <hmw> eper3z_ first tell me the topology of your net. start with the cable, that comes out of the wall and tell me, what hardware is involved
[10:05] <cast|lir> TelQuel: could restart x, ctrl-alt-backspace, then generally kills anything screwing with your x session :)
[10:05] <zj3t3mju1> my ubuntu shutdown NIC at shutdown? how tuneoff this?
[10:05] <TelQuel> cast|lir, how do I restart x? sorry I am a newb still.
[10:06] <SliMM> TelQuel: ctrl alt backspace
[10:06] <Roken> TelQuel Control + alt + backpace
[10:06] <eper3z_> well, its just a simple wireless network?
[10:06] <TelQuel> ok
[10:06] <eper3z_> 802.11n
[10:06] <NIckUK> Hello, I am currently having problems with guild wars having horrible FPS Lag in the Login screen and most things are blocky. This also happens with Silkroad Online.
[10:06] <TelQuel> we shall see if it breaks and if I can fix it this time, thanks
[10:06] <mikevankuik> cast|lir: not at the moment :( in the future I might but at the moment all I got to work with are those 2 disks internal and 2 disks external (and the lose of data would be fatal :P)
[10:06] <TelQuel> I suspect I will soon be back
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju1: when you shutdown..EVERYTHING will shutdown, so the NIC shutting down is normal
[10:06] <mikevankuik> cast|lir: as it always is :)
[10:06] <kj4> if i rip my bosses network cable out of the port, should I topologize?
[10:06] <eper3z_> hmw, its just a simple wireless network? 802.11n
[10:06] <SliMM> please?
[10:07] <eper3z_> wpa2 aes encryption
[10:07] <Roken> eper3z_, if both of the computers are connected to the same router, they should both have the same mask of 255.255.255.0
[10:07] <hmw> eper3z_ so, i assume, you have a cable modem connected to a router, which is the wirless/is connected to a wireless router. i further suspect, that some machines might be connected via cable, or is every client using wlan?
[10:07] <eper3z_> oooh, its the virtual os
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> kj4: depends how much money he owes you ;)
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Roken: provided its class c ;)
[10:08] <Roken> Indeed, but who would need a Class A at home?
[10:08] <hmw> ActionParsnip he is using 192.168.1.108/24
[10:08] <hmw> ActionParsnip but his route says: link-local      *               255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth2
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> just being funny, nm ;)
[10:08] <Roken> Hehe
[10:09] <eper3z_> hmw, im connected on network with vbox also
[10:09] <hmw> eper3z_ i hope, your vista is not the virtual machine, is it??
[10:09] <eper3z_> hmw no
[10:09] <gavila> join #TSIGA
[10:09] <zj3t3mju> my ubuntu shutdown NIC at shutdown? how tuneoff this?
[10:09] <zj3t3mju> anyone helpme?
[10:09] <hmw> eper3z_ hmm...
[10:09] <PSG> join# TSIGA
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: do you mean suspend or do you mean shutdown
[10:10] <PSG> join #TSIGA
[10:10] <PSG> #join TSIGA
[10:10] <gavila> join#TSIGA
[10:10] <oz1> Help , im getting Failed to bring up eth1. Im using 3 NIC the first as dchp server
[10:10] <oz1> anyone?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> oz1: sudo ifup <interface name>
[10:11] <zj3t3mju> ActionParsnip:i restart to windows
[10:11] <hmw> eper3z_ i am out of ideas. if it still wont work, when both firewalls are down, then it might be an incompatible samba-client on your ubuntu, which is only a vague guess. sorry, i cant help you any further. you sure, vista is sharing the folder? (can it look at its own share via network?)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> oz1: if it doesnt come up, read dmesg through to make sure the nic's are detected ok
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: you arent making any sense, can ou rephrase please
[10:12] <eper3z_> yes its connected to the network
[10:12] <eper3z_> hmw, thanks for the time!
[10:12] <hmw> eper3z_ try googleing smb vista ubuntu or smb vista linux or something alike. this topic should be well documented.
[10:13] <eper3z_> alright good idea
[10:13] <rakudave> PSG, gavila: the syntax you're looking for is "/join #TSIGA"
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> eper3z_: look into smbmount if you want to access the vista shares
[10:13] <hmw> eper3z_ i often add the word "problem" to my search, often makes results better
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> eper3z_: the account you connect with MUST have a password set
[10:14] <gavila> .join #TSIGA
[10:14] <zj3t3mju> ActionParsnip: network work properly in Ubuntu, but after I restart to Windows, the NIC has no light (in ubuntu has)
[10:14] <eper3z_> hmw, could this be it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=394412
[10:15] <SuperGuy_9000> I installed 7zip, but my archives keep opening in the default Archive Manager? Thanks in advance.
[10:15] <Slart> gavila: last chance to do it correctly..           /join #TSIGA
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: ok thats a much better description
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: let me websearch
[10:15] <zj3t3mju> ActionParsnip: if i dont restart ubuntu, i use alt+sys rq + REISUB -> windows network work properly
[10:15] <kjell> Slart: He is already in the channel. He is doing advertising.
[10:15] <Slart> !ops | gavila (advertising)
[10:16] <zj3t3mju> ActionParsnip: i knows that ubuntu has shutdown NIC (i also knows usually windows shutdown it)
[10:16] <loofi> Hi everyone. Can someone give me some input on how to mount NTFS correctly in /etc/fstab on my server. I want to connect an USB-drive for backup. It is to be maounted in /media/storage and everyone can read/write. By the way I am running Hardy
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: is the nic in windows disabled/
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: check in network places -> properties
[10:18] <zj3t3mju> ActionParsnip: in my win: it dont have wake on lan option
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: thats not what i asked
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: if you look at your nic devices in network places, is the device disabled
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: it will also say in device manager
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: http://www.microsoft.com/library/media/1033/windowsxp/images/using/networking/maintain/68602-click-enable.gif
[10:20] <zj3t3mju> ActionParsnip: yes, but i enable it again, but no work
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: try heading into device manager and uninstalling the device, then click scan for new hardware to see if it jumps into life
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: if you have wake on lan for ubuntu it will be holding the device waiting for the magic packet
[10:22] <oz1> actionParsnip: yes it just says eth1 : link up but when I try /init.d/network/restart I get SI0caddrt: no such process Failed to bring up eth1
[10:22] <Satin> Hello.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> oz1: ok then run lshw -C network
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> oz1: you may need to install a differrent driver for it
[10:24] <zuher> can any1 help me get wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter ? the server is down i think:(((
[10:24] <oz1> actionparsnip: I should tell you first that I have 3 NIC and eth0 is running as dhcp server ,static adr dont know if this has something to do with it ..
[10:24] <Scix> I'm getting "syntax error: unexpected "(", expecting 'fi'" at line 27, when i run this script. Any one who can help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/114554/
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> oz1: as long as the ips do not clash, the device should still at least come up
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> oz1: if you pull the other 2 nics down, does eth1 come up?
[10:25] <oz1> I can try
[10:26] <oz1> actionParsnip: Nope that didnt do anyting
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> oz1: looks like you need a driver
[10:28] <dare> I get lirc to recive reomote codes but how to assign eg volume up to increese volume on pc ?
[10:28] <lorenzosu> I have trouble connecting to a Windows share from ubuntu. It is a smb share, perfectly visible with Windowx XP. In ubuntu Nautilus it is simply blank when I put the addres.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Scix: if...fi pairs look fine
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: try  smb://servername/sharename
[10:29] <Scix> ActionParsnip: yes, i know. Thats what makes this so frustrating
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: or smbmount it which will allow you to specify credentials
[10:29] <Scix> ActionParsnip: but when i run is as a bash script i works
[10:29] <dare> I get lirc to recive reomote codes but how to assign eg volume up to increese volume on ubuntu ??? ?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !specialkeys
[10:30] <oz1> actionParsnip: ok so what Is the next step?
[10:30] <oz1> cuz I dont have internet ...on the other comp
[10:30] <Scix> ActionParsnip: its executed autoamticly from gdm at logon. (/etc/profile.d/userscript.sh)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> dare: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172010
[10:30] <Mood> Roken: ftp works w/ port 21 now
[10:30] <Mood> Roken: thanks man
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> oz1: lspci
[10:31] <Mood> who was the other person who tried to help w/ my ftp port 21 problem?
[10:32] <Mood> i don't remember. so many generous people "-) brings a tear to the eye
[10:32] <zuher> what is the best music player for ubuntu , in terms of goodlooking, easy of use and functionality?:D
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> zuher: best doesnt exist
[10:33] <harley>  E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:33] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: I put smb://server/share/subdir. I am prompt for username, password, domain but then all is blank :/
[10:33] <harley> how do you fix that?
[10:33] <harley> trying to install the restricted package
[10:33] <zuher> closest to best?:P
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> zuher: best is an opinion, what one user sees as best is another users worst app
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> zuher: doesnt exist
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !player
[10:33] <zuher> kk i really dont know any player
[10:34] <zuher> a lol now i do
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> zuher: try a few, see what you think
[10:34] <zuher> :)) ty
[10:34] <oz1> actionparsnip: ran lshw -C network
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> zuher: there is no best ANYTHING
[10:34] <zuher> what you recomand?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> zuher: i use amarok, vlc, mplayer
[10:34] <oz1> actionparsnip: eth1  RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> oz1: is that te one that wont come up?
[10:35] <oz1> actionparsnip: yes
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> oz1: then get websearching for ubuntu drivers for that device
[10:35] <lockd> I prefer rhythmbox (for the jamendo plugin), vlc, and xmms but that's just me
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> oz1: or how to set it up (may just need a package or two)
[10:36] <Scix> zuher: Personaly i like Exaile :)
[10:36] <lockd> of course, I still have to run a copy of quicktime virtualized, because the gstreamer plugin does not always work
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> zuher: can you see what i mean about "best" now?
[10:37] <oz1> actionparsnip: But are you sure thats the problem? Can't it be anyting else?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> oz1: i cant think of anything, as long as the card is getting an irq
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> oz1: you could super test by physically removing the NICs
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> that come up ok
[10:39] <oz1> actionparsnip: ok removing the nics , but what would that gain?
[10:40] <mikevankuik> is it posible to build a RAID1 setting on a other system and then port it to the new system?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> oz1: if the nic STILL doesnt come up we know for sure that it needs a driver
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: sure
[10:40] <sinner> people i have a problem wired network connection  - after reboot all set down (
[10:41] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb key?
[10:41] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: you think it would work from a virtual environment to a rl situation too?\
[10:41] <sinner> can u help ?
[10:41] <oz1> actionparsnip: but what If I connect the cable to my third eth card eth2 and
[10:41] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: then I could create the RAID1 out of my firewire disks and then port it too the real thing
[10:42] <oz1> actionparsnip: and I know that its a diffrent vendor
[10:42] <ubuntu__> please correct me if i have the wrong logic. i am currently inside ubuntu live 8.04 and i want to do a fsck on a unmounted drive... what would i type
[10:42] <mrwes> fsck /dev/xxxx
[10:42] <ubuntu__> i think i tried that, thans
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: sure, the disks will be setup, the raid will just have to be moved and the raid config setup in the new system
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> oz1: then you will need to setup their ip addresses appropriately
[10:43] <mrwes> ubuntu__, did you try man fsck ? :)
[10:43] <oz1> actionparsnip: yes ofcourse
[10:44] <oz1> actionparsnip: what does the roaming mode mean?
[10:44] <ubuntu__> mrwes, no.. i did what u just said thought and it comes back as this 'he wrong logic. i am currently inside ubuntu live 8.04 and i want to do a fsck on a unmounted drive... what would i type...'
[10:44] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: so it won't be plug and play? :( (well I guess I could have guessed)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> oz1: not sure
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: no, what you are doing is huely complex, hence why you need specil hardware
[10:45] <oz1> actionparsnip: ok I got the same msg again
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: all you will need to do is tell the raid controller the level of raid and to use thoe drives
[10:45] <zuher> I've decided to go with amarok, but on their site , there is only kubuntu ,not ubuntu, is it good? sry for this retarded question:(
[10:45] <oz1> actionparsnip : but now its ; failed to bring up eth2
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> oz1: then you need drivers m'boy
[10:45] <ubuntu__> mrwes, would i use ur example if i dont have a filesystem on the disk
[10:45] <mrwes> ubuntu__, hrmm...from what I know, fsck /dev/xxx should work
[10:46] <mrwes> ubuntu__, it's formated ext2 or 3?
[10:46] <ubuntu__> its not formated
[10:46] <ubuntu__> i delted the partitions
[10:46] <mrwes> Oh...........
[10:46] <unop> zuher, you can install amarok on gnome - there's nothing stopping you
[10:46] <ubuntu__> i think thats the problem though, but im pretty sure i can run fsck on a unformated drive
[10:46] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: ok so in short I will have to rebuild the RAID setting again when I port it to the real system?
[10:47] <oz1> actionparsnip : but its a diffrent model and diffrent vendor
[10:47] <ubuntu__> i prob need a -something
[10:47] <zuher> i cant find any tutorials on how to install it on gnome on their site:((
[10:47] <unop> zuher, and you should install amarok from the ubuntu repositories -- use the package manager
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: yes, the data on the drives will be configured, you will just have to setup the raid setup in the controller
[10:47] <mrwes> ubuntu__, hrmm...fsck (files system check) I believe is for formatted drives
[10:48] <cast|lir> note though, where fsck is most needed, is in a drive thats format is all fubar!
[10:48] <mrwes> ubuntu__, think about it; you don't have a file system on the drive, right?
[10:48] <ubuntu__> mrwes, would i make sence for me to create a partition, run the scan, than delete the partiton on my next install which will be after my disk check
[10:49] <mrwes> ubuntu__, that's what I would do
[10:49] <ubuntu__> mrwes, no file system yet... drive was problematic, so i deleted all partitions, and ran a spinrite check which is program which fixes bad clustors/sectors whatever they are
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: do a basic test, install an OS to it with no drivers or anythin and move it over
[10:49] <ubuntu__> mrwes, looks like ur opinion is the best one and the only one
[10:49] <ubuntu__> a new partition it is
[10:49] <ubuntu__> thanks
[10:49] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: seems like I've got some work cut out for me then...
[10:49] <ubuntu__> any preference weather to use ext2 or ext3
[10:49] <zuher> k, i run Synaptic package manager and searched for amarok , nothing found
[10:49] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: I don't need an OS on it :) its just for data :)
[10:50] <mrwes> no
[10:50] <ubuntu__> i dont know what jourlaling is and i prob coudlt care
[10:50] <unop> !info amarok | zuher
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: then write a few files to the drive then test, same deal just faster
[10:50] <ubuntu__> thanks dood
[10:50] <ubuntu__> bye
[10:51] <hmw> ubuntu__ you will probably want ext3 because of the journaling. in case of a crash it might help recover the destroyed data. if youre using a flash ram hard drive (like in a eee pc), you will probably want ext2, because every write access reduces live time of flash ram.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> zuher: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:51] <jascott> anyone tell me how I can get 'restricted-drivers' onto a CD?
[10:51] <zuher> God bless you
[10:51] <hmw> darn... too slow
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> zuher: i dont use synaptic personally...too slow
[10:51] <zuher> what you use?
[10:52] <zuher>  
[10:52] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb key?
[10:52] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb key?
[10:52] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: I did the trick with 2 internal disks and my ubuntu server runs perfect I'm just a bit nervous because I don't want to kill that setting  while creating the RAID 1 setting with the external disks :)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> zuher: what you just did then :D
[10:52] <jascott> i have a broadcom 4318 wifi in ibex.. doesnt work but i read it was in restricted-drivers
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: well you are only using a few files to test before applying the real data so it doesnt matter
[10:52] <Rioting_pacifist> how do i use "net use s: \\ifsp-arx1cifs1.ucl.ac.uk\shared\shrxxxxnn /user:ucxxxxx@uclusers.ucl.ac.uk *" from linux?
[10:52] <zuher> what the terminal?:))
[10:53] <mrwes> jascott, did you enable the drive in restricted drivers?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: look into smbmount
[10:53] <jascott> well its a laptop without any other ports.. so it doesnt have any internet access
[10:53] <hmw> Rioting_pacifist you mount the smb-share to a location in your file system. like: mount //computername/sharename /mnt
[10:53] <jascott> i have to burn a cd until i get the wifi working
[10:53] <unop> Rioting_pacifist, see.  man mount.cifs
[10:54] <mrwes> jascott, no ethernet?
[10:54] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: its not the data disks I'm worried about :) its my internal RAID that I don't want to kill off :) (but I'm creating a VM at te moment zo I can try what you said :) without having being afraid of killing something :)
[10:54] <jascott> its all fried.. usb, ethernet, only th pcmcia works
[10:54] <mrwes> hrmm...sniff coffee
[10:54] <jascott> and i think the internal miniPCI
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> mikevankuik: if you are worried, run your backup before youo begin
[10:55] <mrwes> jascott, all seems fine then :)
[10:55] <jascott> so how do I DL that restricted drivers package that has the broadcom?
[10:55] <lockd> hmm x11vnc only runs until I disconnect the client and then boom, the server dies
[10:55] <Rioting_pacifist> can i browse it before i mount it?
[10:55] <hmw> Rioting_pacifist smbtree
[10:55] <TelQuel> hey, whenever I try to run a 3D game like tremulous or urban terror it randomly goes into non-fullscreen mode after a while and locks the desktop because I am still "in game" but I cannot click inside or outside of the game window.
[10:55] <hatalar205> hi everybody
[10:56] <hatalar205> is there a programmer here
[10:56] <jascott> mrwes no i think it needs to get to the net to get the bcm driver
[10:56] <lockd> wait, do I have to run x11vnc with the Internet Super Server?
[10:57] <zuher> its asking for the folder that my music is , and i cant browse to ntfs partitions i got:(
[10:57] <hmw> hatalar205 probably. why?
[10:58] <hatalar205> there is a very interesting program Extreme Picture Finder but there isn't such kind of program in Linux
[10:58] <Rioting_pacifist> hmw:  how do i tell smbtree to use a remote smb share its defaulting to my local network
[10:58] <hmw> Rioting_pacifist thats normal. if you want to list the shares in another network, you will need a virtual private network, i think.
[10:59] <_moro_bana_> hi, my skype says no audio capture, how can i fix that?
[10:59] <mrwes> jascott, I was kiddin' -- yah you'll need network access to enable the restricted driver
[10:59] <hmw> Rioting_pacifist: besides the point, that i dont get, why you would need that, i honestly dont knwo too much about that specific issue. try man smbtree
[11:00] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: I'll try the stuff on a VM first :) then I can do it on the server with confidence ^_^ and without worries :) (of course I've got stuff backed up :) but that doesn't mean I want toe rebuild the raid if shit goes wrong :P by something stupid I'd be able to do :D)
[11:00] <mikevankuik> ActionParsnip: so I'll try it first on the VM then in rl :)
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> cool, ood choice
[11:01] <jascott> mrwes where can I dl a deb or something
[11:01] <PsynoKhi0> hi, trying to add the ppa repository for unetbootin... added the authentification key to the sources but synaptics won't drop the &%#£ing warning message about unauthentified sources
[11:01] <PsynoKhi0> (running hardy btw)
[11:01] <unop> Rioting_pacifist,  smbtree browses the local network .. use smbclient instead
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> PsynoKhi0: get the key for the source and import it
[11:02] <PsynoKhi0> ActionParsnip: done that
[11:04] <jascott> is there a driver cd or can I make one?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> PsynoKhi0: then run: apt-get update and you should be fine
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> PsynoKhi0: that or wrong key
[11:05] <TelQuel> anyone here know much about abiword?
[11:06] <kjell> Can you recommend a good mov -> mpeg converter?
[11:06] <hmw> kjell - "good" is relative. i love MENCODER, because it can read a pizza, if you put one in the cd drive. but you have to use it from command line and its complex.
[11:07] <kjell> hmw: Any good GUI-mov->mpeg-converter you know of?
[11:07] <PsynoKhi0> ActionParsnip: starting to wonder if the key isn't fluked... 3rd attempt
[11:08] <Rioting_pacifist> i get "timeout connecting to 10.50.51.16:139 / Connection to ifsp-arx1cifs1.ucl.ac.uk failed (Error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)
[11:08] <hmw> kjell - nope, sorry. if you want, i can give you an example command line, that should work basically, but for optimal results you need to work through the manual.
[11:09] <kjell> hmw: Yeah, thanks!
[11:09] <TelQuel> is there a better word processor than abi?
[11:10] <DIFH-iceroot> TelQuel: openoffice or for the cool guys LaTeX
[11:10] <kjell> hmw: hehe, I would like a standard-line that will say :D
[11:10] <PsynoKhi0> ActionParsnip: does the file extension for the key matter? I saved it as .key
[11:10] <hmw> kjell wait a moment... i am compiling some stuff for you
[11:10] <c0p3rn1c1> what was the name of the new soundserver ?(not alsa)
[11:11] <TelQuel> see the issue is that neither open office nor abiword allows the blue background/white text visual display to prevent eye strain without actually printing the text white.
[11:11] <DIFH-iceroot> c0p3rn1c1: pulseaudio? oss?
[11:11] <TelQuel> This is a major problem for someone who spends as much time typing as I do.
[11:11] <c0p3rn1c1> DIFH-iceroot: pulseaudio, right thx
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> PsynoKhi0: file extensions mean veery little in linux
[11:12] <kjell> hmw: hehe, very kind of you
[11:12] <c0p3rn1c1> hmmz I'm getting only static when I try to play music, I restarted pulseaudio still static
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> PsynoKhi0: you could rename it awesome.keyforthatthingthatwontinstall
[11:13] <c0p3rn1c1> any idea's ?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> PsynoKhi0: and file would still tell you its a gpg key
[11:13] <_moro_bana_> hi, my skype says no audio capture, how can i fix that?
[11:13] <c0p3rn1c1> it's a very strange kind of static like I never heard before :)
[11:14] <c0p3rn1c1> it sounds like I poored water over my laptop :)
[11:14] <zuher> how can i add music from my other partitions to amarok?
[11:14] <c0p3rn1c1> (I dident :))
[11:14] <xlq> zuher: same way you add music from any other partition
[11:15] <hmw> kjell http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m661a4177
[11:15] <zuher> when i press to add music, i can see only the / folter
[11:15] <zuher> folder *
[11:15] <c0p3rn1c1> zuher: just browse to the mount point of your partition /media/[mountpoint]
[11:16] <zuher> that i wanted thank u soo much
[11:16] <Xae8koo> Hello
[11:16] <Xae8koo> What GTK+ program is best to rip cds, and puts it into a sensible folder structure (artist/album, or album/artist)?
[11:16] <kjell> hmw: thanks a bunch!
[11:17] <hmw> kjell have fun recoding!
[11:17] <xlq> Xae8koo: why does it have to be a GTK+ program?
[11:18] <oCean_> Xae8koo: "grip" suits me fine.
[11:18] <seacnboy> "no private ioctls", what's the problem?
[11:18] <Imaginativeone> how do I remove a directory?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !best | Xae8koo
[11:18] <oCean_> Imaginativeone: if it's empty "rmdir dirname"
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Imaginativeone: rm -rf /path/to/folder
[11:18] <Xae8koo> xlq: Really it just shouldn't require KDE packages.
[11:19] <PsynoKhi0> Xae8koo: tried SoundJuicer? (you'll need the gstreamer ugly plugins for mp3 support)
[11:19] <noon> when I plug my ipod touch 2nd gen in, it mounts and unmounts rapidly, along with giving two errors. 1) DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) 2) Error initializing camera: -53: Could not claim the USB device
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Imaginativeone: rm -rf is HUGELY aggressive so check that you dont need any of the data
[11:19] <oCean_> Imaginativeone: be careful using the -rf option to rm
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Imaginativeone: i the subfolders
[11:19] <xlq> Xae8koo: can it require Qt? Because Qt isn't KDE
[11:19] <Xae8koo> PsynoKhi0: Haven't tried it. Is it any good?
[11:19] <Imaginativeone> rm -rf FoldName?
[11:19] <Imaginativeone> rm -rf FolderName?
[11:19] <seacnboy> i want to change the wirelss card to monitor mode,but shows  "no private ioctls", what's the problem?
[11:20] <Xae8koo> xlq: It isn't really a that big deal. I just would prefer GTK+, but if you know a program based on Qt that is good I will be happy to try it.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Imaginativeone: yes
[11:20] <c0p3rn1c> ok for some reason my sound stopped working :(
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Imaginativeone: rm --recursive --force
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Imaginativeone: same thing
[11:21] <Xae8koo> PsynoKhi0: Cool, soundjuicer was allready there. Thanks.
[11:21] <PsynoKhi0> Xae8koo: fills the bill for me (simple to use, though not 100% sure it's gtk+)
[11:22] <xlq> SoundJuicer is an official part of Gnome, so it's GTK+
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Xae8koo: its not the best though, there is no "best".
[11:23] <Xae8koo> ActionParsnip: I really just needed one that is OK. Usable and gets the job done.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Xae8koo: ijust dislike the use of the word best, if there was a best we'd all use it and the other apps would get abandoned
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Xae8koo: best is an opinion
[11:24] <lockd> if there was a best there would just be ALSA
[11:25] <Xae8koo> ActionParsnip: It was just a bad way to express what I needed. I will be more cautious next time.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Xae8koo: just a heads up :)
[11:26] <Imaginativeone> is this a good idea?  I'm going to install Ubuntu again on my current drive
[11:26] <archman> Is there a program that gathers an information on how much is every single program used?
[11:26] <clars> when I #dd if=/.img of=/dev/device - do I have to#sync in the end?
[11:26] <Imaginativeone> by resizing the partition
[11:26] <archman> on my system
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> archman: like a counter for everytime an app is ran?
[11:27] <archman> yeah, so i can see if the program is even used, or usually used...
[11:27] <archman> something like a counter from xp add/remove
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> archman: im not aware of any, let me see
[11:29] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there guys ...... when i switched on the desktop effects in KDE  , metacity replaced KWM .....How can i get back KWM ?
[11:29] <nalys> !trash
[11:29] <cobra-the-joker> switched off*
[11:30] <Xae8koo> will riping cd's be slower if the cd is filled with scratches?
[11:30] <Tekno> yea
[11:31] <Tekno> needs error correction which takes time
[11:31] <archman> Xae8koo: thats logic
[11:31] <Xae8koo> I get 5,8x on this madonna cd. But it is a laptop, would my desktop be faster?
[11:31] <blizzle> Xae8koo, Sure, your ripper will try to attempt error correction, if it's any good, which will slow down the rip significantly.
[11:31] <cobra-the-joker> any body knows how to change to kwm ....tried kwm --replace  ,but didnt work.
[11:31] <blizzle> Xae8koo, Desktop drives are often faster than laptops.
[11:32] <Tekno> and encoding mp3 needs cpu time also..
[11:32] <Xae8koo> You know the sidebar that vista has? On the rigth side? I saw something like that in DSL, can I in gnome have a bar at the rigth side that shows ram/cpu and bamdwith usage?
[11:32] <hmw> encoding mp3 shouldnt be a cpu consumption issiue on modern pcs
[11:32] <Xae8koo> Tekno: I am using lossless wav...
[11:32] <blizzle> Xae8koo, If you have the original disk, why not do yourself a favor and download the mp3s.
[11:33] <hmw> Xae8koo check out "desklets"
[11:33] <lockd> wait, mp3's are higher quality than a ripped disc?
[11:33] <blizzle> Unless you need wav, that is.
[11:33] <hmw> lockd no. ripped disk = wave, lossless uncompressed.
[11:33] <lockd> or flac
[11:33] <blizzle> lockd, Quite probably they are, if the disk being ripped has significant damage..
[11:33] <c0p3rn1c> I've got a latitude d830 laptop, with a nvidia card, my sound just suddenly stopped working, I tried going back a kernell but still nothing, sound says I have a HDA intel STAC92xx card, any idea what to do next ?
[11:34] <beamsjr> Anyone know how to troubleshoot grub?
[11:34] <blizzle> beamsjr, Have you tried sudo grub-update ?
[11:34] <beamsjr> I will try that
[11:34] <lockd> blizzle: not everyone has >2ch audio anyway :P
[11:34] <hmw> lockd: an audio cd contains uncompressed raw wave data (like in the memory of your soundcard, when it plays a sound) at 44.100Hz stereo, 16 bit.
[11:34] <c0p3rn1c> beamsjr: what is the problem?
[11:35] <beamsjr> When I boot I get grub>
[11:35] <beamsjr> never loads configfile
[11:35] <Xae8koo> I belive (I migth be wrong) that I can hear the diffrence between wav, and wav converted to ogg, is that possible?
[11:35] <beamsjr> I can load configfile manually and it boots
[11:35] <hmw> beamsjr you might have forgotten to set a default timeout in your menu.lst ?
[11:36] <beamsjr> hmw I will check that
[11:36] <lockd> Xae8koo: I could see if you set it to the lowest bitrate
[11:36] <c0p3rn1c> beamsjr: it doesnt load /boot/grub/menu.1st ?
[11:36] <blizzle> beamsjr, You might also try installing startupmanager and having a look at the settings therein.. might help, might not..
[11:36] <beamsjr> c03rn1c no
[11:36] <c0p3rn1c> beamsjr: strange
[11:37] <xlq> Xae8koo: Ogg/Vorbis, yes that's possible
[11:37] <beamsjr> blizzle sudo apt-get startup-manager? do I need gui for that?
[11:37] <xlq> Xae8koo: Ogg/FLAC, impossible
[11:37] <Xae8koo> gDesklets just crashes on me.
[11:37] <blizzle> beamsjr, For future reference: apt-cache search <string>. For now, apt-get install startupmanager
[11:37] <hmw> mbeamsjr if you put a line "default=0" and another line "timeout=5", then the first entry of the menu.lst will be booted after a pause of 5 seconds
[11:38] <blizzle> beamsjr, And yes, it's a gui app, so you'll need an X session.
[11:38] <beamsjr> hmw checking that now
[11:38] <hmw> mbeamsjr of course put those lines above the boot entries *g*
[11:38] <beamsjr> Im running server
[11:38] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb key?
[11:39] <beamsjr> I have default 0 timeout 3
[11:40] <blizzle> beamsjr, It's at times like this that you would benefit from a lightweight window manager, server or no server :)
[11:40] <xlq> or ssh -X
[11:40] <cast|lir> alotbter: sure
[11:40] <hmw> blizzle: real programmers code in binary. they dont need guis
[11:40] <alotbter> cast|lir, how
[11:41] <cast|lir> alotbter: explain further, what you mean is ambigious
[11:41] <blizzle> hmw, Binary, eh? And there was me thinking they programmed in assembler ;)
[11:41] <alotbter> well then why are you answering in the affirmative/
[11:41] <cast|lir> punch cards are where its at
[11:41] <beamsjr> do we not use root (hd0,0) anymore in menu.lst? I have title, uuid,kernel,initrd
[11:41] <hmw> blizzle assembler is for winkies, who cant memorize a simple command like 01011010 1001010 1001000
[11:41] <cast|lir> alotbter: because i think all the same possible interpretations of your statement are possible :)
[11:42] <cast|lir> s/ame/ane
[11:42] <hmw> blizzle of course a gui is a nice thing to have *g* if it isnt vista
[11:42] <cast|lir> eee kb, in my defense.
[11:42]  * blizzle chuckles.
[11:42] <alotbter> i want to boot an encrypted ubuntu system with a usb key
[11:44] <cast|lir> alotbter: and whats on the usb key, the kernel or the key?
[11:44] <bigbrovar> am trying setup a virtual test enironment for learning ldap .. i intend to run but server and client on a virtual machine but i dont know which is best Virtualbox or vmware server
[11:44] <alotbter> either
[11:44] <blizzle> bigbrovar, VirtualBox is free.. you might try that first (Sun's version) and see how far you get with it.
[11:45] <cast|lir> alotbter: its a big difference, ones booting off a usb key, anothers booting off the hd
[11:45] <bigbrovar> blizzle> thanks .. just what i thought
[11:45] <alotbter> cast|lir, you dont make any sense
[11:45] <blizzle> bigbrovar, I think you may well be able to migratet the virtual disk between different platforms if you decide to swap.
[11:45] <Xae8koo> Is there an easy way to rip cds using command line?
[11:46] <xlq> bigbrovar: there's also QEMU, which is fairly ok, and Bochs, which is extremely slo
[11:46] <xlq> w
[11:46] <cast|lir> alotbter: im not? D: ok.
[11:46] <blizzle> bigbrovar, Note that you'll want Sun's version, which supports 3d acceleration in addition to USB, in 2.1 at least. You'd want to add the virtualbox repository.
[11:46] <xlq> Xae8koo: cdda2wav?
[11:46] <cast|lir> Xae8koo: cdparanoia
[11:47] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb key?
[11:47] <blizzle> alotbter, Must you repeat your question every minute?
[11:48] <alotbter> yes
[11:48] <Xae8koo> alotbter: Yes, there is a way. Google knows.
[11:48] <alotbter> ive tried google
[11:48] <blizzle> alotbter, Hint: The correct answer is no. The more you ask, the less help you're likely ro receive :
[11:48] <alotbter> ro? who is ro?
[11:48] <blizzle> *to
[11:49] <Roq> read only
[11:49] <Xae8koo> blizzle: You can have the kernel on the usb, decrypt and then boot the encrypted fs?
[11:49] <blizzle> Xae8koo, Sounds possible; it also sounds complex.
[11:50] <blizzle> Xae8koo, Having grub on the usb key might be the first step. Possibly.
[11:50] <Xae8koo> blizzle: You are rigth, someone that can't handle google, won't manage that either.
[11:50] <alotbter> but how would you decrypt
[11:50] <hmw> alotbter: you will have to create your own initramrd. i looked into this, it was quite advanced. maybe you find a tool, that helps you with this. good luck *smirks*
[11:51] <^26> alotbter: unless there's some magic script somewhere which you simply put in your initramfs, I don't think you're going to get through with it unless you know bash scripting.
[11:51] <sandGorgon> my intrepid desktop died on me - the messages log shows http://pastebin.com/d106b7d19 . anybody knows if this is a known issue ?
[11:52] <hkais> hello
[11:52] <hkais> how can i setup a postgresql password under 8.04?
[11:52] <^26> alotbter: also, if you want to have a bootloader proper for this, you might consider using the 'install-mbr' and 'syslinux' commands.
[11:52] <alotbter> whats initramfs
[11:52] <xlq> hkais: createrole
[11:52] <xlq> hkais: createuser, sorry
[11:52] <blizzle> sandGorgon, What state are you in there? Console?
[11:53] <adubz> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:53] <hkais> xlg: I have a clean setup of postgres. What are the commands to enablea password?
[11:53] <adubz> i keep getting that error on apt-get
[11:53] <blizzle> adubz, Did you run dpgk --configure -a ?
[11:53] <hkais> adubz: run the dpkg --configure -a as root
[11:53] <quibbler> adubz: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:54] <^26> alotbter: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=initramfs
[11:54] <hkais> xlg: isn't the postgres user created?
[11:54] <Guest25379> any htaccess channel?
[11:54] <hmw> alotbter: you might want to look into LFS (linux from scratch) for learning how to build your own linux.
[11:54] <blizzle> Guest:; try #apache
[11:54] <^26> alotbter: it's a filesystem loaded (read copied) into RAM at bootup.
[11:55] <xlq> hkais: firstly, the 'postgres' user is a UNIX user, not a PostgreSQL user
[11:55] <adubz> i did
[11:55] <xlq> hkais: secondly, I think you have to run createuser as the 'postgres' user, i.e. "sudo -u postgres createuser ..."
[11:55] <blizzle> adubz, Next try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[11:55] <^26> alotbter: after it is loaded, it 'forgets' where it loaded from and starts executing some scripts in order to setup stuff like console, udev and encryption, and also mount the root filesystem (/).
[11:56] <blizzle> adubz, If that fails, you might try sudo apt-get install -f
[11:56] <alotbter> ^26  and i would have to code that all?
[11:57] <^26> alotbter: Unless someone already did that, most likely yes.
[11:57] <grrr> Hi - CD Audio (using rythmbox plays intermittently, for say 10 seconds, then stops. I don't get any audio at all from KsCD. Using Hardy 8.04LTS - any suggestions? I'm pretty sure all the codecs are on.
[11:57] <cast|lir> personally id just put a keyfile on the usb :)
[11:57] <adubz>  no package named `a' is installed, cannot configure
[11:58] <blizzle> grrr, Try running ryhthmbox from console and see if any errors crop up..
[11:58] <alotbter> how do you do that cast|lir
[11:58] <adubz> on dpkg --configure a    i get that
[11:58] <grrr> bizzle: good plan.
[11:58] <blizzle> adubz, Note the dash, it's -a
[11:59] <adubz> oh
[11:59] <[tla]> Hi.  I have a server running Intrepid installed with net-snmp (v5.4.1) and it supports AES.  I have another Gutsy server with net-snmp (v5.3.1) and it doesn't support AES.  Looking at the net-snmp release notes I think both should support AES.  Do I need to add something else to the Gutsy server to get AES support?  Thx
[11:59] <lici> how i can runv as aroot ?
[12:00] <xlq> lici: pardon?
[12:00] <harley> what's my window manager?
[12:00] <blizzle> lici, Prefix a command with sudo or gksudo to run as root.
[12:00] <ari_stre1s> what?
[12:00] <beamsjr> Messing with grub I found that I have hd0 and hd1 my root is sdb and /var/www is sda. It tells me that /boot/grub/menu.lst is on hd0... abd when I manually boot from grub I type configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst.. When I try setup (hd1,0) I get filesystem type unknown. I think grub cant see my raid 5 but once linx loads it can see it. Still unsure of why menu.list is not being found?
[12:00] <ari_stre1s> lici sudo -i
[12:00] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb?
[12:00] <harley> how do I tell what window manager I have?
[12:00] <blizzle> harley, ps -e grep wm
[12:01] <blizzle> harley, ps -e |grep wm
[12:01] <ari_stre1s> beamsjr: afaik, /boot cannot be on raid 5
[12:01] <beamsjr> its notari_stre1s its not, its on a raid 0
[12:01] <harley> blizzle, first one gives me an error, second one does nothing
[12:02] <xlq> harley: if you're using Ubuntu (Gnome desktop), you'll be using Metacity
[12:02] <Xae8koo> Haf an houre to copy a cd... That is a bit much...
[12:02] <harley> xlq, alright, I'm just using basic ubuntu 8.10 :S
[12:02] <Xae8koo> Can I just cp stuff, and then make some program sort the files out later. What program?
[12:02] <xlq> harley: then you're using Metacity
[12:03] <harley> xlq, Oh yes it's gnome, thank you
[12:03] <xlq> harley: actually, you might be using compiz
[12:03] <archman_> !info xserver-xorg-video-amd
[12:03] <Xcyclone> WHAT CP YOU SAY
[12:03] <archman_> !info  xserver-xorg-video-apm
[12:03] <harley> xlq, I do have compiz fusion if that's related?
[12:03] <ravious> I've got a ubuntu 8.10 server running samba & nfs connected to a usb external storage. The device will randomly display no files in the mounted shared partition,  yet still show its mounted. Im not sure how to track down the problem, any ideas?
[12:03] <xlq> harley: ps -e | grep compiz
[12:03] <archman_> !info  xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:04] <xlq> harley: yeah, that
[12:04] <archman_> !info xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[12:04] <harley> xlq, ok I checked compiz fusion icon, it's set on compiz
[12:04] <c0p3rn1c> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-3/  : The requested URL /releases/jaunty/alpha-3/ was not found on this server :S
[12:05] <harley> xlq, one final question, how do I view what type of gfx card I have?
[12:05] <lici> i wanna save a file .txt but i cant cos is owned by root ?
[12:05] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb?
[12:05] <xlq> harley: lspci, probably
[12:05] <blizzle> lici, sudo gedit and then save.
[12:05] <uid01> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-4/
[12:05] <uid01> works just fine
[12:05] <harley> thank you
[12:06] <harley> how can I view updates for this?
[12:06] <harley> Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL
[12:06] <xlq> harley: look for "Display controller" in the lspci output
[12:06] <c0p3rn1c> uid01: ok thx
[12:07] <harley> xlq, It says "(rev 0e)"
[12:07] <Xae8koo> Does nautilus merge folders well? Like if I have two folders that haf of the content is the same, and the folder structure is the same. Will it work well?
[12:07] <tuntun> Should I be worried about this when vmware tools is being installed: "/CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmemctl-only/backdoorGcc32.o"?
[12:08] <harley> xlq, sorry never mind
[12:08] <harley> xlq, Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller
[12:08] <xlq> harley: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Search.aspx?Prod_nm=910GL&x=0&y=0&lang=eng&MissingSearchTxt=Please+enter+a+valid+product+name%2C+filename+or+product+ID+%23.
[12:09] <GSF1200S> anyone in here familiar with hdmi
[12:09] <adubz> everytime i try to run this java program it comes with a pop up telling me that it is an executable text file and gives options of what i want to do i select runa nd the program runs fine
[12:09] <adubz> but i do not like this, lol
[12:10] <harley> xlq, for operating system would I just got "linux"?
[12:10] <xlq> harley: yes
[12:10] <xlq> harley: I think, though, that there's an Ubuntu package for it.
[12:10] <xlq> harley: not sure, I've never used Intel chipsets.
[12:10] <tuntun> adubz, change the setting in nautilus preferences,
[12:11] <harley> xlq, there are just the drivers or a tar.gz, I'll get the tar.gz right?
[12:11] <adubz> i did
[12:11] <adubz> im using java to run it
[12:11] <giuseppe_>  hello... anyone can help me about acpi problem on toshiba mobile?
[12:11] <adubz> well that was already defaulted i checked that
[12:11] <adubz> sun java 6 webstart
[12:12] <adubz> is the option selected to run
[12:12] <adubz> i still get the annoying pop up option
[12:12] <xlq> is it xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[12:12] <c0p3rn1c> for some reason alsa and pulseaudio stopped working on my system, oss still works
[12:12] <ravious> adubz: what type of file are you trying to run? whats the extension.
[12:12] <c0p3rn1c> any idea's how to fix it ?
[12:13] <adubz> there is no extension
[12:13] <zuher> is any1 able to help me install kiba dock  ? please:D
[12:13] <tuntun> Should I be worried about this when vmware tools is being installed: "/CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmemctl-only/backdoorGcc32.o"?
[12:13] <harley> how do uninstall drivers for my gfx card?
[12:14] <blizzle> tuntun, Probably not. Let the install complete and see if it runs ok.
[12:14] <grrr> bizzle: no errors reported from rythmbox, although now it is not even playing the cd.
[12:14] <xlq> tuntun: in case you're wondering what 'backdoor' is: http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/backdoor.html
[12:15] <archman_> guys, can i find repos which have jack 0.116.2 available?
[12:15] <oCean_> tuntun: don't think you need to worry.. ask in #vmware what it is..?
[12:15] <blizzle> grrr: Hmm.. maybe give Exaile a spin..?
[12:15] <adubz> like the file has .jar files around it and it is the actual program on intrepid it doesnt do this i am running 8.04 on this machine
[12:15] <adubz> sun java 6 jre
[12:16] <blizzle> grrr, You might also try apt-get reinstall rythmbox
[12:16] <harley> stupid question, how do I install drivers inside a tar.bz file?
[12:16] <xlq> harley: untar them
[12:16] <harley> I did
[12:16] <blizzle> harley, Also check the README :)
[12:16] <harley> blizzle, there is no readme :S
[12:16] <Seveas> harley, generally you don't. What kind of drivers are they?
[12:16] <hmw> blizzle readme is googles brother, isnt he?
[12:17] <Seveas> hmw, no, sister :)
[12:17] <blizzle> hmw, Yeah, you might say that :)
[12:17] <harley> Seveas, there for an intergrated intel graphics card
[12:17] <Seveas> man is the broter
[12:17] <Seveas> harley, then toss out the .bz2 file. Ubuntu has them included
[12:17] <tuntun> the vmware tools install fine in 8.04 but NOT IN 8.10!! Anyway thats a different issue, I just had to install 8.04 and wait until vmware releases an update...
[12:17] <archman_> !info repositories
[12:18] <archman_> !info jackd
[12:18] <loki_666> hi, can someone help me with modelines and xrandr
[12:18] <harley> Seveas, oh ok. I just play a java based game. I've tried everything and it just keeps freezing
[12:18] <Seveas> harley, uninstall all openjdk and gcj related packages and install sun jre 6
[12:18] <loki_666> i'v specified a preferred modeline in my xorg.conf but it doesnt seems to care
[12:19] <harley> Seveas, how do I uninstall them all
[12:19] <xlq> harley: 1. make sure you're actually using the Intel driver, and 2. make sure it's not just a crappy java game being a crappy java game ;)
[12:19] <harley> xlq, It's not that, I've played it for about 2 and a half years on windows. How do I make sure it's using the Intel Drivers?
[12:19] <Seveas> harley, do this and pastebin the output: dpkg -l '*gcj*' '*openjdk*'
[12:19] <hmw> loki_666 most drivers, i used, didnt care about mode lines. sometimes there were special parameters (option) for controlling the driver.
[12:19] <Seveas> note the quotes, they're important :)
[12:20] <hmw> loki_666 my xorg.conf is quite empty this time. i hate it, too.
[12:20] <xlq> harley: then I'd follow Seveas's advice
[12:21] <harley> Seveas, what was the url to paste something?
[12:21] <harley> xlq, thanks a lot for your help
[12:21] <Seveas> !pastebin | harley
[12:21] <loki_666> hmw: well, the xorg.log does recognize the preffered mode, but doesnt use it
[12:21] <ScorpKing> hi guys. i'm unable to install gnome. i get "gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: gnome-keyring-manager (>= 2.20.0) which is a virtual package" but i can't find gnome-keyring-manager. is there any other way i can install gnome?
[12:21] <loki_666> my xorg.conf http://dpaste.com/117055/
[12:21] <hmw> loki_666 yea, thats the drivers fault, probably.
[12:21] <grrr> bizzle: exaile doesn't work either, unfortunately. It gets the tracklisting OK, but stops at actually playing the cd. I'm guessing the problem is further down the stack. Thx.
[12:21] <loki_666> my xorg.log http://dpaste.com/117056/
[12:22] <archman_> guys anyone has jack 0.116.2 deb for ibex?
[12:22] <harley> xlq,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/114621/
[12:22] <siva> hi
[12:22] <loki_666> i'm using radeonhd
[12:23] <siva> am using ubuntu
[12:23] <Seveas> harley, interesting. What does the following command say: java -version
[12:23] <hmw> loki_666 i had to work around the automagic selfconfiguration of all that stuff. e.g. i had to configure my second monitor as option for the first one. the options were not xorg.conf standard stuff, but special stuff only this one driver could understand.
[12:23] <xlq> archman_: I have jackd 0.109.2
[12:23] <harley> java -version
[12:23] <siva> how to search for ubuntu credentials
[12:23] <harley> woops
[12:23] <harley> java version "1.6.0_10"
[12:23] <bony> i have a problem with my webcam. when i plugged in the webcam it got detected and the device /dev/video0 was also created there were no hardware error that were shown in dmesg but when i start cheese, ekiga, xawtv i dont get any image. when i try to cat /dev/video0 i get some random output and when i change the angle of the cam patteren in the output also changes. xawtv -hwscan gave in these errors "/dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support" can any one help me o
[12:23] <bony> ut on this?
[12:23] <harley> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_10-b33)
[12:23] <harley> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 11.0-b15, mixed mode, sharing)
[12:23] <Seveas> siva, what do you mean with credentials?
[12:23] <hmw> loki_666 so i suggest you find out, how your driver wants to be configured. i guess it shouldnt be too hard to find something with google
[12:24] <Seveas> harley, ah, well crap. You're using the correct version aldready do that's not it.
[12:24] <siva> hi
[12:24] <loki_666> hmw: well, i think my config should be ok for what i could dig from google
[12:25] <harley> Seveas, any idea on why it could be going so slow then? :S
[12:25] <hmw> loki_666 if your xorg recognizes the settings, it doesnt mean, that the driver behaves. i am of course not sure, what is going on in your pc. just wanted to give the hint, that some drivers ignore xorg.conf settings.
[12:26] <harley> Seveas, could it be possible that it goes slower on compiz and faster on metacity?
[12:26] <loki_666> hmw: mkay, maybe I should find some debuginfo option for the driver, to find out why it doesnt accept the modeline
[12:26] <archman_> xlq: me too, i need 0.116.2...
[12:27] <hmw> bony - this is just a wild guess. maybe your webcam is set to a very low light intesinty. try setting better values with eg. v4l2ucp
[12:29] <bony> hmw, thanks for the tip i will check that out. meanwhile are there any other programs or applications that give more information of my webcam? so that i can configure it properly?
[12:29] <patmanpato> hrm, how can i shutdown a system from the command line?
[12:29] <patmanpato> i tried "shutdown -P now"  , but the power still remains on after its finished shutting down
[12:30] <blizzle> patmanpato, sudo shutdown -h 0
[12:30] <waylandbill> Hello. If I access a php page in one directory of /var/www it executes it. another sibling directory the browser tries to download it. How do I fix this?
[12:30] <patmanpato> 0 = zero ?
[12:31] <blizzle> patmanpato, Indeed. 0 as in now. :)
[12:31] <patmanpato> thanks blizzle
[12:31] <waylandbill> actually looking further it will run an index.php fine, but not a setup.php.
[12:32] <hmw> bony: i didnt find good applications that allowed me to set the light thingy, which was always the problem. for some reason the webcams are set to the lowest light level and this hasnt been fixed for a while now. another hint: on my fedora linux cheese did work with a webcam, when everything else failed. i found a solution to "plug in" a compatibility helper, like: "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype"
[12:32] <hmw> bony: for the preload thing, you might do some research, if it is neccesary in ubuntu, and how to obtain it.
[12:33] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb?
[12:34]  * hmw wonders wth is LUKS
[12:34] <Seveas> harley, sorry, had to go away for a while. Yes, compiz will definitely make it slower
[12:35] <bony> hmw, ok i will check out the preload thing in ubuntu. one more doubt is that the webcam is not working in cheese and in xawtv i don't see any picture but when i check the terminal i see "no overlay support" thing. is it possible that the webcam may not work in cheese and it will work in xawtv?
[12:36] <hmw> bony: i dont know. my guess is, that  the overlay thing is a different problem, and it might affect just certain apps.
[12:36] <harley> Seveas, thanks, I think that was it
[12:37] <bony> hmw, hmmm ok so need work on this.
[12:37] <bony> thanks for the tips
[12:39] <ravious> I've got a usb external drive connected to an 8.10 server (samba/nfs) randomly the server will display an empty directory to clients yet the files are still browsable from the host.. resetting samba fixes this issue, any ideas on why this might be hapening?
[12:40] <steveccc> hi all - has anyone here used dropbox with multiple machines - I am looking for a solution where I can have something like dropbox on multiple machines but it doesnt syncronise the whole file but simply displays an icon that a file is present but only downloads it if you request it - does anyone know if dropbox can do this or if there is another service?
[12:40] <Samy> hola
[12:40] <Samy> Hi
[12:41] <amanu> hello
[12:41] <Samy> I need help
[12:41] <beamsjr> Super grub boot disk saved the day! Thanks to whoever recommended it yesterday!!!
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:44] <blizzle> ravious, Have a look at /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:45] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb?
[12:45] <usser> steveccc, sounds a lot like nfs, where you mount a directory on a server as your local directory
[12:45] <yao_ziyuan> how do i open a document file from command line without specifying the opener?
[12:45] <yao_ziyuan> for example,
[12:46] <yao_ziyuan> i want to "run" "abc.txt"
[12:46] <usser> yao_ziyuan, i dont think thats possible
[12:46] <yao_ziyuan> or "run" "abc.mp3"
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> i thought it was gnome-run
[12:46] <Boohbah_> yao_ziyuan: for text files, use cat or less, for mp3s, use mpg123
[12:47] <jrib> yao_ziyuan: gnome-open
[12:47] <yao_ziyuan> krun can do that too...
[12:47] <dr_Willis> There was some command to use the gnome-default app for a filetype - i recall.. but never used it.
[12:47] <yao_ziyuan> good
[12:47] <alotbter> Boohbah_, i thought you chmod +x a file to make a file executable, or is that just for .bins?
[12:48] <alotbter> is there any way to boot LUKS with a usb?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> ahhh its gnome-open
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> !info gnome-open
[12:49] <ActionParsnip1> http://www.davidbdean.com/2007/07/06/open-file-with-default-application-from-terminal-ubuntugnome/
[12:49] <steveccc> usser: i want to do it over the net rather than locally though
[12:50] <usser> steveccc, sshfs lets you mount remote directories as well, and it encrypts, and works well over the internet.
[12:50] <keith_> hi all
[12:51] <keith_> i am haveing a posable making ssl work in my apche 2 web server
[12:53] <tyfj> How to stop an autostart  services, postgresql,  which file in /etc/init.d/  or rc?.d/ should I edit?  thank you.
[12:53] <krlos> ryanakca: .. hi
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> !bum
[12:54] <keith_> cool
[12:54] <tyfj> thank you.  bum need to get a install, it is not default. right?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> !info bum
[12:54] <USSR> ActionParsnip1, do you know how to boot a LUKS encrypted Ubuntu system with a USB?
[12:54]  * dr_Willis wonders what a LUKS even is..
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> USSR: ive not used either, sorry
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> !luks
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> !info luks
[12:55] <MarkJones> Can anyone say if there is a way to get 8.10 with all current updates? Sort of like an unofficial 8.10.1 CD?
[12:55] <dr_Willis> dont know either eh ActionParsnip1 ? :)
[12:55] <Boohbah_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUKS
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> dr_Willis: not a scooby
[12:55] <USSR> !luks
[12:55] <tyfj> ubottu: thank you
[12:55] <zhjawe> why unoconv notice "Error: Unable to connect or start own listener. Aborting?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> dr_Willis: no wonder i havent heard of it. I'm not that paranoid
[12:55] <keith_> personal i wish you could update 8.04 to 8.10 with out reinstall
[12:56] <Pici> keith_: You can. Just upgrade.
[12:56] <Pici> !upgrade | keith_
[12:56] <Boohbah_> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=ubuntu+luks
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> MarkJones: you can do an online upgrade to intrepid
[12:56] <Pici> Boohbah_: Thats not helpful at all.
[12:56] <tyfj> ubottu: great, i don't you so smart
[12:56] <Boohbah_> Pici: sure it is, it leads directly to the documentation with the answers
[12:57] <bigbrovar> .
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> Boohbah_: thats funny
[12:57] <keith_> any one know how too make ssl work with apche server
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> keith_: have you tried asking in #apache
[12:57] <keith_> and i am not useing server dst
[12:58] <regex-hater> how can I do the following in a bash scrit: If argument is * then ls -C1 else (..commands...)
[12:58] <keith_> no
[12:58] <regex-hater> i.e ./myscript *
[12:58] <MarkJones> I know how to update.I was asking something else.
[12:58] <Seveas> keith_, make it listen on port 443, make sure SSL engine is on on the vhost(s) fot that port and that it looks at the correct cert. Snakeloil cert will do for tests
[12:58] <Seveas> regex-hater, the shell will expand the * for you ;)
[12:59] <regex-hater> yeah thats my problem
[12:59] <Seveas> regex-hater, though if you quote the * in your shell, you can use this: if [ $1 == * ]; then ...; fi
[12:59] <Jonathan_L> Hello. I want to download deb files for KDE 4.2 to my USB flash drive for my Ubuntu 8.10 laptop at home
[12:59] <DIFH-iceroot> Jonathan_L: and the problem is?
[13:00] <Jonathan_L> I've got no internet connection at home.
[13:00] <Jonathan_L> But I've got fast internet  connection here
[13:00] <regex-hater> Seveas, can i do something so * not expands
[13:00] <suigeneris> Jonathan_L, sudo apt-get source kde
[13:00] <DIFH-iceroot> Jonathan_L: and the problem is?
[13:00] <regex-hater> Seveas, ?
[13:00] <Seveas> regex-hater, write it as '*'
[13:00] <DIFH-iceroot> Jonathan_L: you want to download the deb-files? why not do it?
[13:01] <regex-hater> Seveas, i'll try
[13:01] <Jonathan_L> But from where!?
[13:01] <Jonathan_L> I can't find any
[13:01] <DIFH-iceroot> Jonathan_L: kde.org?
[13:01] <Jonathan_L> I'm not so stupid that I haven't looked there yet. No debs listed
[13:02] <Pici> Jonathan_L: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 has some links
[13:02] <Jonathan_L> I'm ennoyed!!!
[13:02] <suigeneris> Jonathan_L, sorry, sudo apt-get -d kde
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> !aptoncd
[13:02] <Jonathan_L> I'm on a win2000 computer at school. Then what?
[13:03] <Jonathan_L> And as I said, I've got a USB flash drive.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> Jonathan_L: you are going to have to check the deps and download each in turn, bit messy
[13:03] <rashed2020_> Where/How does ubuntu store user info?
[13:03] <lorenzosu> A colleague sent me a zip with a MAC font... I unzip and have all the _MACOSX folder and files with dots... how can I use them in ubuntu?
[13:03] <TADS> hi all anyone know about running Rfactor on ubuntu... i have it running and all is fine BUT it wont let me find server by ip.... i do list it in the server lists tho
[13:03] <ziroday> rashed2020: what type of user info?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> rashed2020_: each users info is stored in ~/
[13:03] <Jonathan_L> rashed2020: In hidden files. /home/username/.whatever
[13:04] <ziroday> lorenzosu: what does the font end in?
[13:04] <ravious> Jonathan: You could download the kubuntu iso onto your thumb drive, mount it on your home computer and install kde from the packages on the iso
[13:04] <rashed2020_> If I wanted to create an app that asked for the user's username and password and allowed access based on that, what am I supposed to search for?
[13:04] <Jonathan_L> ActionParsnip1: Do'h!
[13:04] <giulio> hi can someone talk me ubuntu-it?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> lorenzosu: ls -a
[13:04] <rashed2020_> The users created with "adduser"
[13:04] <giulio> server irc for italian
[13:04] <Pici> giulio: /join #ubuntu-it
[13:04] <Jonathan_L> ravious: Too large file. Feels like it's overkill to download the ISO for that
[13:04] <Seveas> rashed2020, you'll want to look at libpam
[13:04] <krlos> debian rulz!
[13:05] <krlos> hi people users
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> rashed2020_: if you execute: cd ~/; ls -a
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> rashed2020_: you will see each setting folder for each app you use
[13:05] <Seveas> rashed2020, alternatively, if you don't care about ldap/nis/samba authentication, just look at /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> rashed2020_: some are in ~/.kde
[13:05] <c0p3rn1c> rmmod snd_hda_intel
[13:05] <c0p3rn1c> ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[13:05] <ravious> jonathan: true.. but how many packages are you going to have to download to make sure you have everything for kde to run, its a rather large install even from apt-get.. you would have to make sure you have them all for it to work.
[13:05] <Pici> Jonathan_L: There is no easy way to do what you are asking because these files are in a PPA and not the official Ubuntu repositories.
[13:05] <c0p3rn1c> how can I see what process is using it ?
[13:05] <alien> I'm connecting an external HDD to ubuntu and it says "you are not privileged" althrough im in admin group, how to solve this?
[13:06] <dr_Willis> what filesystem is the hd?
[13:06] <regex-hater> Seveas, like this if [ $1 = '*' ];then ...  it dosent worj
[13:06] <alien> ntfs I guess
[13:06] <Jonathan_L> Are there any apt client that works in windows? (just for downloading)
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> !mount | alien
[13:06] <Seveas> alien, make sure you're in the plugdev and fuse groups
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> !ntfs3g | alien
[13:06] <Jonathan_L> I know there are websvn, there should be some kind of webapt too
[13:06] <tyfj> ubottu: vertical gnome-panel crash, right?
[13:06] <LePHiSTO> Jonathan_L: maybe go with cygwin
[13:06] <TADS> hi all anyone know about running Rfactor on ubuntu... i have it running and all is fine BUT it wont let me find server by ip.... i do list it in the server lists tho
[13:06] <Seveas> Jonathan_L, packages.ubuntu.com :)
[13:07] <rashed2020_> Yep, libpam was exactly what I needed.
[13:07] <Pici> Seveas, Jonathan_L: kde4.2 is in a ppa, its not on packages.ubuntu.com
[13:07] <rashed2020_> Thanks everyone
[13:07] <tyfj> vertical gnome-panel crash, right?
[13:07] <Jonathan_L> Cygwin? yeah, right. From a flash drive on ¨a school computer
[13:07] <Jonathan_L> ?
[13:07] <Seveas> Pici, doesn't LP have a packages.u.c-like interface?
[13:07] <Jonathan_L> There's these instructions for linux systems: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[13:08] <Jonathan_L> But I'm not on a linux computer...
[13:08] <krlos> what about launch pad
[13:08] <Cpplus> Is there a repository that holds the latest release version of GCC, being 4.3.3 ?
[13:08] <Cpplus> For Intrepeid
[13:08] <Cpplus> *Intrepid
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> !info gcc
[13:08] <Scix> After this script has run (/etc/profile.d/userscript.sh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114651/) GDM fails, and enter into a failsafe xterm. This only happends if line 13 is true. If i run this script after login, everyting is just fine! Why???
[13:08] <Seveas> Cpplus, probably not
[13:09] <harley> how do I remote desktop connect to my friends computer?
[13:09] <Jonathan_L> harley: vinagre?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> harley: rdesktop
[13:09] <harley> Jonathan_L, huh?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> !info rdesktop
[13:09] <Cpplus> Seveas, I can't find it yet in the Debian archives either
[13:09] <weeder> watch redirects, as hacking is prevalent
[13:09] <Seveas> Scix, please look at autofs, it does what you want but much much better
[13:09] <harley> we are both using ubuntu by the way
[13:09] <weeder> pswd's disabled by default.  Most likely won't work.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> harley: then vnc i guess if you need the gui
[13:10] <harley> can't we use the built in remote desktop viewer?
[13:10] <Pici> Jonathan_L: This is the best I can do: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> harley: dont use vnc over wan without an ssh tunnel as vnc data is not encrypted
[13:10] <weeder> lurchy
[13:10] <Scix> Seveas: I will :)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> harley: im not aware of it, if it works then yeah sure
[13:10] <Jonathan_L> Pici: No kind of web client anywhere that I can browse that with? Or local windows client that runs from USB drives?
[13:11] <krlos> hi... ubuntu people.. I am a debian package maintainer and a kubuntu man tall abount co mantain a pacdkage in launch pad
[13:11] <Pici> Jonathan_L: No.
[13:11] <krlos> could you explaind m,e something about it.. thanks
[13:11] <weeder> man tail??what's that
[13:11] <Jonathan_L> Pici: :(
[13:11] <Pici> Jonathan_L: Sorry. :/
[13:11] <DIFH-iceroot> weeder: the manpage from tail
[13:11] <zuher> what is the comand to get intltool  ?
[13:11] <weeder> oh, sorry.
[13:12]  * Jonathan_L starts crying out loud
[13:12] <Jonathan_L> ;)
[13:12] <blizzle> Jonathan_L, If you want a windows web client that'll run off USB, try portableapps Firefox.
[13:12] <harley> my friends "Users can view your desktop using this command: mailto:?Body=vncviewer sean-desktop:0"
[13:12] <harley> how can I connect to him with that?
[13:12] <TADS> is there any gamers in here that run Rfactor?
[13:12] <Seveas> zuher, apt-get install intltool :)
[13:12] <Jonathan_L> blizzle: Not web browser - APT repository browser.
[13:12] <zuher> ty
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> !vnc | harley
[13:12] <Pici> krlos: What sort of question are you looking to answer?
[13:12] <weeder> there are repos for enabling launchpad via package manager.  search
[13:12] <Jonathan_L> But if there's a FF plugin for browsing APT reps, then tell me ;)
[13:12] <dr_Willis> harley,  if you are going over the internet.  that proberly wont work.. since the 'sean-desktop' is his local machine name. You wouldneed his ip#
[13:12] <weeder> servers flakey, but it sorta works
[13:13] <blizzle> Jonathan_L, Ah, that I cannot help you with. although, thinking about it, there might be some apt tools.. possibly. apt-cache search apt-
[13:13] <Pici> weeder: Hes looking for an easy way to download ppa packages from windows.. not from Ubuntu
[13:13] <alien> I'm connecting an external HDD to ubuntu and it says "you are not privileged" althrough im in admin group, how to solve this? standard how-to pages do not talk about this
[13:13] <Xae8koo> What is the ubuntu equilent of LimeWire? I prefer FOSS.
[13:13] <harley> and he can view that by going to viewmyip.com?
[13:13] <blizzle> alien, Check your permissions in users-and-groups..
[13:13] <Seveas> Xae8koo, fromstwire
[13:14] <blizzle> Xae8koo, Try Frostwire
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> harley: yeah
[13:14] <Seveas> without the m
[13:14] <Jonathan_L> blizzle: That works on windows?
[13:14] <harley> and apparently I have vinagre installed
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> harley: you need his wan ip
[13:14] <weeder> i think that sabayon and ultimate edition ubunto have the info for that
[13:14] <Jonathan_L> blizzle: " apt-cache search apt-"?
[13:14] <blizzle> Jonathan_L, You might want to run VirtualBox to achieve that..
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> harley: he will also have had to configure port forwarding if s/he is using a router
[13:15] <alien> blizzle, I have all checks "on"
[13:15] <Jonathan_L> Virtualbox!? For that?
[13:15] <harley> ahh so much confusion
[13:15] <blizzle> Xae8koo, There's also Nicotine Plus, which is definitely worth a look.
[13:15] <Pici> !who
[13:15] <blizzle> !nicotine Xae8koo
[13:15] <Jonathan_L> blizzle: I'm on a win2000 computer in school and have a USB flash drive. What can I do?
[13:16] <weeder> ubottu SIT
[13:16] <animus> Hi, i would like to create a virtual crypted disk image with cryptodisk and dd if=/dev/zero of=disk.img bs=1M count=XX but i don't understand where the place i give to this virtual drive will be get (dev/sda /dev/sdb?)
[13:16] <Jonathan_L> Huh? I thought ubottu was intelligent! :P
[13:16] <Seveas> Jonathan_L, download and burn an ubuntu cd and reinstall the box ;)
[13:16] <USSR> !computers
[13:16] <Pici> !botabuse
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> hhaaaha
[13:16] <blizzle> Jonathan_L, You might boot into a Live Disk session if you have/can acquire an Ubuntu disk.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> thats the funniest ive seen
[13:17] <Jonathan_L> Seveas: Sure, I'll do that while downloading the Kubuntu iso...
[13:17] <Jonathan_L> !computers FTW
[13:18] <Jonathan_L> blizzle: I've got an Ubuntu 7.10 disc...
[13:19] <blizzle> Jonathan_L, That's ideal, all you need to do is boot off it :)
[13:20] <Jonathan_L> blizzle: To install KDE 4.2!?
[13:20] <Jonathan_L> Here in school?
[13:21] <Jonathan_L> So you mean that I should bring the disc to school, boot from it, and then download everything to my USB drive using it?
[13:21] <Jonathan_L> blizzle: I think that it would be counted as "abuse". As if running apps from my USB drive wasn't enough
[13:22] <tomin>  /msg NickServ identify 446zeyg
[13:22] <Pici> tomin: I suggest changing your password. now.
[13:22] <Jonathan_L> tomin: Eeeh?
[13:22]  * dr_Willis giggles
[13:22] <Jonathan_L> Yup, I suggest that too.
[13:22] <ViperBorg_TERM> I would also suggest that.
[13:22] <Jonathan_L> NOW! ;)
[13:22] <ViperBorg_TERM> The **** now.
[13:22] <jpds> Too bad he left.
[13:22] <Jonathan_L> And I suggest that you remember to NEVER put spaces before /commend
[13:23] <Jonathan_L> */command
[13:23] <ViperBorg_TERM> lol
[13:23] <ViperBorg_TERM> Exactly.
[13:23] <Pici> Jonathan_L: These packages were just not designed to be downloaded from anything other than apt.
[13:23] <Jonathan_L> Pici: I think that I should create something like a APT browser fro Windows...
[13:23] <Jonathan_L> When I've learn some real programming, i mean...
[13:24] <JoEtHeKiLlEr> hi
[13:24] <stevencxr> how to add a source to source list in terminal?
[13:24] <Jonathan_L> There's http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/ with links to all packages, and a list in http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ppa/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/
[13:25] <ZeroA4> stevencxr, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:25] <Jonathan_L> stevencxr: I think that there's a menu item for it in "System". No need for terminal
[13:25] <Roq> What if he's connected via ssh?
[13:25] <onob> Hi. I am having problems getting my dvb-t card working. When doing "sudo modprobe cx88-dvb" i get "FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb (/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-dvb.ko): No such device". I have installed dvb-utils but I have no /dev/dvb folder... Has anyone had the same problem?
[13:26] <ViperBorg_TERM> Son of a...
[13:26] <Jonathan_L> Roq: Who?
[13:26] <zuher> Sometimes some downloads stops at 28%:( exactly 28, is there something i can do? they are from terminal
[13:26] <Jonathan_L> zuher: Are they all of the same size?
[13:26] <zuher> no
[13:26] <zuher> its very strange
[13:27] <Jonathan_L> I'd guess it's a bug. Something that happens sometimes when the percentage reaches 28
[13:27] <zuher> happened 3 times today , i can only restart the terminal and redoawload
[13:28] <whombat> hi @ all
[13:28] <hwilde> is ntp.ubuntu.com down?  i am getting permission denied
[13:28] <whombat> have a problem with font hinting in Firefox
[13:28] <ViperBorg_TERM> Hi whombat
[13:28] <whombat> i added a new user
[13:28] <aftertaf> anyone good with wine?
[13:28] <whombat> at this account there is not font displayed in FF
[13:28] <whombat> anything else is working good
[13:28] <aftertaf> i need help on substituting the wine odbc.exe with native linuex ODBCAdmin
[13:28] <jpds> hwilde: Pastebin?
[13:28] <Jonathan_L> aftertaf: Maybe good enough.
[13:28] <whombat> at my normal user acc there are no problems with FF
[13:29] <hwilde> jpds, localhost ntpd_initres[5557]: ntpd returns a permission denied error!
[13:29] <Jonathan_L> aftertaf: No, can't help on that...
[13:29] <aftertaf> Jonathan_L: shqme :)
[13:29] <aftertaf> ame
[13:30] <jpds> hwilde: Confirmed, lemme look into it.
[13:30] <adubz> does anyone know where i can get the graphic xmms application
[13:30] <noteventime> Heya, any idea why an UMTS card would suddenly disappear?
[13:30] <hwilde> jpds, default ntp.conf   server ntp.ubuntu.com    I added a secondary from penn state which is working
[13:30] <Jonathan_L> I'm a fast learning newbie. I pick up stuff fast, but I usually miss some things (probably because of short attention span ;)
[13:30] <noteventime> I'm trying to get my brother's Lenovo SL300 to connect using an Ericsson f3507g
[13:31] <Jonathan_L> And sometimes I never get that far into learning about something.
[13:31] <noteventime> I had it working a couple of days ago using wvdial
[13:31] <ViperBorg> Jonathan_L: *looks up" What?
[13:31] <noteventime> But now it suddenly doesn't show any more
[13:31] <noteventime> It used to be on /dev/ttyACM[012]
[13:31] <noteventime> I do have a couple of /dev/ttyUSB[0-12] but I can't connect to them
[13:32] <noteventime> They only give me a "line in use" error
[13:32] <noteventime> And wvdial just gets stuck with an "Can't get information from serial port" or something similar to that
[13:32] <Jonathan_L> viperborg: huh?
[13:32] <haptiK> hi all why does "sudo ln -s /home/jonad/virtual-planner/virtual-planner virtual-planner" work but "sudo ln -s /home/jonad/virtual-planner/public virtual-planner" not work?
[13:33] <jpds> hwilde: In the mean time, I suggest you add some more servers to /etc/ntp.conf . :)
[13:33] <Jonathan_L> This is starting to get really confusing
[13:33] <ViperBorg> Jonathan_L, Exactly.
[13:33] <hwilde> jpds, I suggest you read what I typed to you that said I did exactly that, and it is working now ;)
 jpds, default ntp.conf   server ntp.ubuntu.com    I added a secondary from penn state which is working
[13:34] <jpds> hwilde: Whoops, missed that one, sorry.
[13:34] <noteventime> I did check the bios setup utility for any option to turn on/off the device, but the only one I could find was for wireless connectivity in general
[13:34] <noteventime> Which was enabled
[13:34] <ViperBorg> Oh, crap. McDonalds is here.
[13:34] <hwilde> jpds, i know - but that might help your diagnosis
[13:34] <chew282> hi all
[13:34] <jals> anyone here used Synergy?
[13:34] <chew282> can someone help me with language package installation?
[13:34] <jpds> hwilde: I've poked the sysadmin on vanguard, ought to be fixed soon.
[13:35] <chew282> I'm simply lost
[13:35] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L, Sorry, had a forced reboot. The idea is to select the correct repository for KDE 4.2 and then just download the package(s), not install them.
[13:35] <KEBA> hello there
[13:35] <hwilde> jpds, so everyone is permission denied or I got blacklisted
[13:35] <chew282> trying to install Korean language package but simply just dont know how
[13:35] <noteventime> Could this be due to some recent kernel update?
[13:35] <Jonathan_L> jals: Not used, but downloaded
[13:35] <jpds> hwilde: I can't the same running ntpdate so it should be a server error.
[13:36] <Jonathan_L> blizzle: yeah, I know
[13:36] <hwilde> jpds, /var/log/syslog should show you permission denied
[13:36] <jals> i'm wondering if you can use it with only 1 monitor
[13:36] <Jonathan_L> WHY?
[13:36] <KEBA> i installed kde 4.2 on kubuntu 8.10, now i want to remove it in a good way, it is ok to removing the source and type apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade
[13:36] <jals> ...
[13:36] <Jonathan_L> "looping"?
[13:36] <jals> cos i only have 1 monitor
[13:36] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L, There are some apt- tools that might help, possibly on the system you're intending to install KDE4.2 to.
[13:36] <jpds> hwilde: I have many servers in the ntp.conf I sync from ;-)
[13:37] <jals> but 2 machines that i'd like access to with my peripherals
[13:37] <JoEtHeKiLlEr> how can i activate Multi-streaming playback ?
[13:37] <hwilde> jpds, me too, now
[13:37] <Favorit> KEBA: removing the source?
[13:37] <blizzle_> KEBA: You'd want to purge the settings, ideally.
[13:37] <Jonathan_L> blizzle_: to use on a win2000 pc?
[13:37] <Favorit> KEBA: you mean you compiled it yourself, or you installed it from packages?
[13:37] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L,  No, to use with your Live Disk.
[13:37] <jpds> hwilde: Appears to be back now.
[13:37] <dou213> to install lamp-server: 'sudo tasksel install lamp-server'?
[13:38] <Jonathan_L> Jals: It's designed for two screens, but it might work for clipboard sharing and stuff
[13:38] <KEBA> Favorit: i dont know its english name, i mean the "deb foo-bar.de intrepid main" source
[13:38] <Jonathan_L> blizzle_: the idea is to avoid LiveCDs in school
[13:39] <stevencxr> how to save files in nano?
[13:39] <Favorit> KEBA: ah, no, that won't remove it
[13:39] <Favorit> KEBA: that will just disable the possibility to install/update it
[13:39] <hwilde> any idea what this means from syslog? :     Feb  6 08:36:06 localhost kernel: [141630.428000] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 81.205.231.165:62189/8888 shrinks window 4065938822:4065941582. Repaired.
[13:39] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L, Either you have a Linux setup available, or you're likely to struggle downloading packages via apt-get
[13:39] <Favorit> KEBA: I'm afraid you'll have to remove all the packages that it installed first.
[13:40] <KEBA> Favorit: hmm, damn it..
[13:40] <KEBA> so its easier to reinstall kubuntu?
[13:40] <Jonathan_L> blizzle_: apt-get on windows ! ?
[13:40] <JoSSeTeSERVER> lol
[13:40] <Favorit> KEBA: what do you want to achieve? roll-back to the old version?
[13:40] <ViperBorg_TERM> Wait.... what?!
[13:40] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L, No! Afaik, you can't do apt-get on windows. If it's feasible, cygwin *might* do it, but I'm not convinced.
[13:41] <ede> hello
[13:41] <KEBA> Favorit: no, i want to install kde 4.2 clean, i forgot to remove kdeplasma-base (the wiki says i should do), now i cant use KDE really
[13:41] <Unguided> morning all
[13:41] <Jonathan_L> blizzle_: I want to avoid BOTH LiveCDs and Cygwin in school
[13:41] <jals> is there some way i can just access the file on a local ubuntu machine from my ubuntu machine?
[13:41] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L,  If you have install privs, then VirtualBox might be a good idea.
[13:42] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L, Otherwise, just forget it :)
[13:42] <jals> seems like that should be easy
[13:42] <Favorit> KEBA: dpkg -l | grep kde, remove all the packages, and then reinstall :)
[13:42] <ede> i installed the microsoft fonts and now the pictures in firefox are looking bad. Is there a way to fix it?
[13:42] <Rootmentor> Hey I?m new to the Irc i was trying to join the python channel but stuck here : You need to be identified to join that channel    Where , how , can i do that?
[13:42] <Jonathan_L> blizzle_: Forgetting about it is not an option either ;)
[13:42] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L, You might as well be asking how to run WindowsUpdate in Ubuntu..
[13:43] <KEBA> Favorit: hmm, kay.. cant i use a for-loop for removing?
[13:43] <dr_Willis> Rootmentor,  /msg nickserv help and 'register' your nickname
[13:43] <Favorit> KEBA: you can, why not
[13:43] <Jonathan_L> blizzle_: :D
[13:43] <Jonathan_L> blizzle_: Why not? ;)
[13:43] <KEBA> Favorit: hmm, but HOW do i?
[13:43] <Favorit> KEBA: let's see
[13:44] <dou213> hi guys, to install lamp-server: 'sudo tasksel install lamp-server'? is this cmd right?
[13:44] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L, Alternatively, why not download KDE4.2 source from svn/wherever and compile yourself.. another option.
[13:44] <blizzle_> dou213, Did you try it?
[13:44] <KEBA> Favorit: first dpkg should just say me the name of the package, i dont need more infos
[13:44] <scunizi> I have a harddrive that is recognized by the system and puts an icon in "Computer" however gparted doesn't see it.  How do I reserect this drive? Is there a low level format (like the old days)?
[13:44] <ViperBorg_TERM> dou213: If not, it should be sudo apt-get install lamp-server
[13:45] <zuher> what does cd . .  do ?
[13:45] <redspike> Hi, i canot save or open files from a windows share with openoffice in ubuntu 8.10,  anyone know what the problem can be?  it works fine with gedit and other apps
[13:45] <Favorit> KEBA: could try this: for i in `dpkg -l | grep kde | awk '{print $2}'`; do apt-get remove $i; done
[13:45] <blizzle_> redspike, Could be that OpenOffice doesn't like network shares..
[13:45] <Jonathan_L> blizzle_: Where's the svn?
[13:45] <dou213> if it is already installed, it won't break anything right?
[13:45] <Favorit> dou213: no, it won't
[13:45] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L, Now you're getting lazy! Google, my friend.
[13:45] <redspike> blizzle_: is there any work around ?
[13:46] <blizzle_> redspike, Sure, save the file locally and then copy across..
[13:46] <Jonathan_L> Blizzle_: :(
[13:46]  * Jonathan_L sad
[13:46] <Jonathan_L>  ;9
[13:46] <Jonathan_L> ;)
[13:46] <FloodBot3> Jonathan_L: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <KEBA> Favorit: wow, that code is cool, ill try it, thx
[13:46] <Jonathan_L> Oh...
[13:46] <hwilde> anybody know how I can supress this message from the syslog?? :     Feb  6 08:36:06 localhost kernel: [141630.428000] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 81.205.231.165:62189/8888 shrinks window 4065938822:4065941582. Repaired.
[13:47] <Unguided> can anyone tell or direct a newb to how the directory structure is setup in ubuntu (ie what is proc, var, etc, srv, system.)
[13:47] <moh_> google
[13:47] <Jonathan_L> Unguided: Wikipedia
[13:48] <Favorit> Unguided: read some getting started with linux guide
[13:48] <Jonathan_L> It's Unix-like, so it's not Canonical why invented Ubuntu's directory structure
[13:48] <Favorit> Unguided: that dir structure is prety much the same on all unixes.
[13:48] <scunizi> Unguided: check out www.ubuntupocketguide.com.. you can even download a pdf for free
[13:49] <Unguided> ok i come from a windows world & dont know what each directory is for. thanks for the info
[13:49] <Guest69850> how do i kill harley
[13:49] <ede> I installed the microsoft fonts and now the images in firefox are looking tattered. I set Arial as standard font in firefox. Is there a way to fix it?
[13:49] <KEBA> Favorit: works, should i try it with other patterns? like qt?
[13:50] <harley> Guest69850, what?...
[13:50] <Guest69850> shutup harley
[13:50] <Jonathan_L> Guest69850: Huh? /msg nickserv ghost harley ?
[13:50] <Favorit> KEBA: well, thing is, the more global the patetrn is, the more the risk of removing something extra that you actually don't want to remove is
[13:50] <Jonathan_L> Or not...
[13:50] <harley> Jonathan_L, Don't worry, he's being a tool.
[13:50] <Favorit> KEBA: before firing that command i'd look at output of dpkg -l | grep <pattern> to see what packages will actually get removed
[13:50] <scunizi> Unguided: one primary thing to remember is /home is where all your data lives.. beyond that you need root privilges to add or modify which means that until you're more familure, don't do anything there
[13:51] <Favorit> scunizi: what if my data lives under /storage? :)
[13:51] <scunizi> Unguided: that is outside of /home
[13:51] <Jonathan_L> "being a tool"?
[13:51] <Josshill[OA]> Hey, Can someone help me, I cant hear anything when watching a video (youtube ect)
[13:51] <KEBA> Favorit: of course, but there are only "kde" and "qt", or are there more?
[13:51] <blizzle_> Jonathan_L,  That's shorthand for "ignore him"
[13:51] <scunizi> Favorit: that means you know enough to mount whatever you want.. so you're familure :)
[13:52] <Favorit> KEBA: well, there're prolly some sound-daemons, whatnot, but that shouldn't affect KDE installation too much.
[13:52] <Unguided> k thanks for the advice and the book
[13:52] <Jonathan_L> I still don't know what to download to get KDE 4.2 debs to my USB flash drive using Windows 2000
[13:52] <nam1> te he
[13:52] <scunizi> Unguided: np
[13:52] <Favorit> KEBA: actually you could look if your apt source provides you with a cumulative package... like 'kde-4.2-full' or whatnot :) Although I can't get you a way out of the top of my head how to do it
[13:53] <Josshill> Can someone please help me with getting my sound working while Im watching a video?
[13:53] <Slart> Jonathan_L: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[13:53] <KEBA> Favorit: hmm, thx.. ill try, if it does not work, i can reinstall anyway :)
[13:53] <redspike> Hi is there any way to add mount options to the windows share mounter in gnome?
[13:53] <redspike> i have problems with openoffice and i have read that it shold help to add nobrl option when mounting the share
[13:53] <Slart> Jonathan_L: or you don't want to do it manually?
[13:53] <Favorit> KEBA: If you by accident remove whole system - I'm not responsible! Code comes with no warranty, yadda yadda, all that standard legal stuff :P
[13:53] <Favorit> hehe
[13:53] <sea1> hello
[13:53] <giulio> we
[13:54] <Unguided> I have windows home server setup and I can remote access into it then remote desktop into any computer in the house. can i do that with ubuntu
[13:54] <KEBA> Favorit: i hope, that wont crash my hardware :)
[13:54] <Favorit> KEBA: No, I'm not that potent in shell scripts to make hardware burn :D
[13:54] <Jonathan_L> Slart: As few clicks as possible
[13:54] <Slart> Unguided: yes.. you'll have to setup ssh/vnc or whatever you need on all the computers you want to access
[13:54] <blizzle_> Unguided, You can. You'll want to look at tightvncserver and possibly x11vnc
[13:55] <Unguided> once again thank you
[13:55] <KEBA> Favorit: right, so i dont care... i cant lost anything... kde does not work now, if it wont work in the future, its the same
[13:55] <Jonathan_L> Slart: And I want debs
[13:55] <Favorit> KEBA: hehe, good luck with it
[13:55] <Slart> Jonathan_L: if I were you I would use apt-get but with the -s option (=simulate).. it will tell you what packages it would install.. copy paste that to a text file, remove some weird bits and feed it to wget.. or just manually read, download in a browser from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[13:56] <blizzle_> Unguided, Also, if you want to access Ubuntu over VNC from a Windows box, you'll need a vnc client.. see http://tightvncserver.com
[13:56] <CShadowRun> Anyone here use hardy with an nvidia graphics card, can i borrow a second of your time. Thanks :)
[13:56] <scunizi> Unguided: if you're use to putty for a secure connection then on the linux end you can use putty or ssh
[13:56] <yeonhoo> hi
[13:56] <Ghoul> ok, how do i see all the wireless networks available via networkManager?
[13:56] <blizzle_> scunizi, He's used to Remote Desktop.. :)
[13:56] <yeonhoo> what are standard package for C ?
[13:56] <scunizi> CShadowRun: ask.. I do
[13:56] <Unguided> kewl thanks
[13:57] <Jonathan_L> Slart: On a windows 2000 pc? I want to avoid downloading from a browser
[13:57] <yeonhoo> what is the name of the c standard library package?
[13:57] <CShadowRun> scunizi, can you ls /usr/lib/libnvidia-cfg.so*
[13:57] <CShadowRun> scunizi, and tell me if anything is there
[13:57] <Slart> yeonhoo: build-essential will set it up for you
[13:57] <KEBA> Favorit: thx :)
[13:57] <Josshill> Can someone please help me with getting my sound working while Im watching a video?
[13:57] <Slart> yeonhoo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:57] <scunizi> blizzle_: just thought since he mentioned going to his server first then the desktop.. it was kinda a weird route
[13:57] <arvind_khadri> yeonhoo, build-essential
[13:57] <yeonhoo> Slart: yes i already have it
[13:58] <yeonhoo> arvind_khadri: yes I already have it
[13:58] <CShadowRun> scunizi, do you have any files that match that?
[13:58] <Slart> Jonathan_L: I've never seen a tool to download from repositories that runs on windows
[13:58] <arvind_khadri> yeonhoo, there are lots of C libraries... what exactly do you want?
[13:58] <Slart> Jonathan_L: if you want a project you could play around with grep, sed, awk and friends a do a script that will generate a .bat file =)
[13:58] <KEBA> CShadowRun: dont ask to ask, just ask ;)
[13:58] <scunizi> CShadowRun: sure.. I get /usr/lib/libnvidia-cfg.so.1 & libnvidia-cfg.so.169.12
[13:59] <yeonhoo_ub> arvind_khadri, error: ‘exit’ was not declared in this scope
[13:59] <CShadowRun> scunizi, hah, i knew it. Debian package bug breaking my nvidia cards
[13:59] <CShadowRun> scunizi, thanks :)
[13:59] <yeonhoo_ub> arvind_khadri, error: ‘exit’ was not declared in this scope error: ‘atoi’ was not declared in this scope
[13:59] <scunizi> CShadowRun: np :)
[13:59] <Jonathan_L> Slart: I've got no internet connection at home. I should probably bring my Ubuntu laptop here...
[13:59] <yeonhoo_ub> arvind_khadri, im trying " make"
[14:00] <arvind_khadri> yeonhoo_ub, why are you trying to compile?
[14:00] <noteventime> Never mind, fixed it
[14:00] <yeonhoo_ub> arvind_khadri, there is an function error related only with the c libraries
[14:00] <noteventime> If anyone's interested, the problem was due to the "options" module
[14:00] <Slart> Jonathan_L: there is a "generate download script" option in synaptic.. you might be able to use that
[14:00] <yeonhoo_ub> arvind_khadri, there is no .deb
[14:00] <noteventime> Which suddenly started loading since some recent kernel update
[14:00] <yeonhoo_ub> arvind_khadri, its unfamous program
[14:00] <arvind_khadri> yeonhoo_ub, for what ? name it
[14:00] <Josshill> Can someone please help me with getting my sound working while Im watching a video?
[14:01] <Jonathan_L> Slart: I know - can I make a script like that run on Windows to download?
[14:01] <noteventime> unloading it and reloading the original once (cdc_acm) fixed it
[14:01] <scunizi> CShadowRun: what's supprising is this machine has an 8400 card (laptop) and works with the driver I mentioned.. However my desktop with an 8200 needs the 180.22 driver to be fast enough to use.. the 17x driver was so dog slow I couldn't use the machine
[14:01] <yeonhoo_ub> arvind_khadri,  it is called coord http://www.coordguru.com/
[14:02] <Slart> Jonathan_L: I'm trying to generate one now.. to see what it looks like.. but you won't be able to run it unmodified on a windows machine, no
[14:02] <Jonathan_L> Slart: No .sh to .bat converter? ;)
[14:02] <Jonathan_L> Or even .exe compiler? ;)
[14:02] <Slart> Jonathan_L: basically, what you are trying to do will take some work.. there are no magic apt gnomes to do it for you
[14:03] <Jonathan_L> I want the base, the plasmaiods and most of the fancy stuff. ;)
[14:03] <Slart> Jonathan_L: bah.. sh to bat converter.. that's like converting a f1 car into a 1970s fiat
[14:03] <Jonathan_L> And I have to go very soon anyeway
[14:03] <Jonathan_L> I know, but you can always hope
[14:03] <Jonathan_L> (or "I")
[14:03] <CShadowRun> scunizi, hehe, i have a default ubuntu install and after using the driver manager X doesn't even start
[14:04] <CShadowRun> you got it lucky :)
[14:04] <arvind_k> yeonhoo_ub, whats the name of the program
[14:04] <yeonhoo_ub> yeonhoo, its 'coord'
[14:04] <timahvo1> anyone know of a nice front end for mplayer thats light on system resources ?
[14:04] <Chousuke> gmplayer :)
[14:04] <cast|lir> timahvo1: a frontend? but that ruins it :(
[14:05] <Chousuke> the *frontend* is not going to be an issue.
[14:05] <timahvo1> yeah I know seeting it up for the girlfriend :p
[14:05] <cast|lir> mplayer has pretty simple key combos. 90 volume. arrow keys seek. q quit.
[14:06] <timahvo1> I'll give gmplayer a whirl see if she likes it . thanks Chousuke
[14:06] <Slart> Jonathan_L: yay.. the package download script is just a series of wget... just remove the first line and it should run, even on windows
[14:06] <suigeneris> what's the command to burn an iso file?
[14:06] <Slart> Jonathan_L: you'll have to bring wget with you, of course..
[14:06] <Slart> !burniso
[14:06] <Jonathan_L> It's supposed to take ~150 seconds to download the KDE installation iso (why ~700 MB for that!?)
[14:06] <Jonathan_L> As far as I can tell
[14:06] <timahvo1> cast|lir: she'd going out with me so she cant be too clever now can she ? :p
[14:07] <Jonathan_L> Slart: Yay, I've got wget.exe!
[14:07] <dak> hrm
[14:07] <Slart> Jonathan_L: then you should be good to go
[14:07] <cast|lir> timahvo1: in that case, dont tell her the volume keys. just say "oh, this is just a {quiet|loud} movie" :)
[14:07] <Jonathan_L> So I can just rename it to *.bat?
[14:08] <Jonathan_L> (after putting it in the correct directory)
[14:08] <Slart> timahvo1, meet couch.. couch, meet timahvo1... you'll get to know eachother.. really good =)
[14:08] <rakudave> !scsi
[14:08] <Slart> timahvo1: if you listen to cast|lir , that is =)
[14:08] <timahvo1> lol
[14:09] <point> ciao a tutti
[14:09] <point> !list
[14:10] <Jonathan_L> Bye now, have to go. Have to do it next week.
[14:11] <danpk> i need a tool to scrape a html web page and reformat it so that it can be read on a small mobile screen, any suggestions welcome
[14:11] <Jonathan_L> Slart: Please upload the script anywhere and send me the link
[14:12] <Jonathan_L> /msg MemoServ SEND Jonathan_L [message - preferably the URL]
[14:12] <Jonathan_L> Bye!
[14:14] <luzy> sisi
[14:14] <Josshill> Can someone please help me with getting my sound working while Im watching a video?
[14:15] <Gnea> !sound | Josshill
[14:15] <Josshill> !sound
[14:15] <Josshill> Ive already done all this =/
[14:15] <Josshill> Ive read the guides ect.
[14:16] <Gnea> oh, you didn't say so... so what's the problem?
[14:16] <Josshill> When Im on skype, My sound works perfectly, But when I watch a video on youtube ect. No sound =/
[14:16] <Josshill> Sometimes it wont even play
[14:16] <Gnea> what are your default output devices set to?
[14:16] <Josshill> Where would I find that :? Sorry new user
[14:17] <Josshill> Is that my Alsa?
[14:17] <mitchell> hello
[14:17] <Gnea> System->Preferences->Sound
[14:17] <Josshill> My output correct?
[14:17] <Gnea> yeah, it's either going to be ALSA (the driver) or Pulseaudio (the sound server)
[14:17] <KDE_geht> thank you very much Favorit! it works
[14:17] <Josshill> Im using alsa
[14:18] <Euler> hi all...Ibex user here...odd ball question: update manager keeps telling me i need to download 2.6.27-11, even tho i've done so (and rebooted) a few times
[14:18] <Gnea> which soundcard do you have?
[14:18] <Josshill> Im not sure, I know it reconizes it though
[14:18] <jemi> mailto:n=Jpeter@94.37.94.48
[14:19] <jemi> lo
[14:19] <Gnea> open a terminal and type this:  lspci | grep audio
[14:19] <zMainframe> Anyone get passphrse based authentication with openssh to work with noMachine?
[14:19] <Josshill> Oo sorry, Still tired, my sound card is a Realtek AC97
[14:20] <Gnea> k
[14:20] <Josshill> 00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[14:20] <Submarine> howdie
[14:20] <Josshill> When Im on skype my sound does work though
[14:20] <Josshill> Ello
[14:20] <Josshill> But, When Im watching a video it wont
[14:20] <Gnea> Josshill: try this procedure: quit firefox, reset your sound settings to use pulseaudio instead of alsa, then start firefox again and see if it works
[14:21] <Submarine> Anyone has an idea why Google Earth OpenGL text screws up on Ubuntu 8.10 on an Intel integrated graphics card?
[14:22] <zuher> what does the command cd . . do ?
[14:22] <kjell> cd .. or cd . .?
[14:22] <Josshill> Gnea Ive already tryed rebooting and restarting firefox
[14:22] <zuher> cd . .
[14:22] <jrib> zuher: try it?
[14:22] <Josshill> Gnea I will try restarting firefox again though =/
[14:22] <zuher> ye it doesnt do anythink, but not giving error
[14:22] <Gnea> Josshill: okay, you didn't read what I said. please re-read it. I said restart firefox, not reboot the machine.
[14:22] <Sembiance> What is a command I can run that will pop up an X11 alert message/window?
[14:23] <Gnea> Josshill: the procedure needs to be followed exactly to the letter.
[14:23] <cast|lir> Sembiance: xmesssage ;o
[14:23] <kjell> zuher: It aint doing nothing.
[14:23] <Josshill> I know, I did restart firefox dont worry I can read :)
[14:23] <jrib> zuher: do you understand what « cd . » does?
[14:23] <kjell> zuher: If you want to go back one directory use cd .. instead.
[14:23] <hbekel> Sembiance: xmessage, or zenity or kdialog
[14:23] <zuher> cd . no, but i understand what cd does
[14:23] <Gnea> Josshill: well, you said 'reboot' :)
[14:23] <zuher> aaaa
[14:23] <kjell> cd . will make you stay in the same directory
[14:23] <Slart> ohh.. nice double < thingies.. not sure I even know how to do those.. =)
[14:23] <zuher> k i got it thank
[14:24] <kjell> zuher: Nu problem
[14:24] <jareth_> peeps: how do i change the default port for apache? Which file do i need to edit?
[14:24] <HexTasy> I'm trying to locate the file that holds mac addresses and such for network cards, because I've swapped/replaced/changed the hardware and it's trying assign it eth2 instead of eth1
[14:24] <Gnea> Josshill: i need to go, someone else might be able to help from here... sorry, good luck
[14:24] <HexTasy> isn't it in /proc somewhere?
[14:24] <n8tuser> jareth_ -> you looked around /etc/apache2  dir ?
[14:25] <Slart> HexTasy: I think it's somewhere in the udev rules folder in /etc
[14:25] <Sembiance> cast|lir, hbekel: thank you very very much!
[14:25] <Josshill> Gnea, Still nothing
[14:25] <jareth_> n8tuser: yups, but can't find port settings...
[14:25] <HexTasy> udev, yes!
[14:25] <Josshill> Well can someone else help me?
[14:25] <n8tuser> jareth_ -> you looked hard enuff?  maybe in /etc/apache2/conf.d ?
[14:25] <Slart> HexTasy: /etc/udev/70-persistent-net.rules might be it
[14:25] <n8tuser> jareth_ -> or ports.conf ?
[14:25] <jareth_> n8tuser: checking
[14:26] <HexTasy> Slart: yep thats the one, thanks
[14:28] <Torikun> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mephisto_Backup_1_2
[14:29] <r3dux> Anyone found a definitive fix to non-working virtual consoles under nvidia 177 by any chance? vesafb/vga16 stuff in blacklist and initramfs fix isn't doing it..
[14:29] <Euler> hi all...Ibex user here...odd ball question: update manager keeps telling me i need to download 2.6.27-11, even tho i've done so (and rebooted) a few times
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Torikun Why did you post that link?
[14:30] <Dillizar> !mtp
[14:30] <ikonia> Euler: show me uname -a
[14:30] <Torikun> Jack_Sparrow: for the best backup solution
[14:30] <r3dux> Euler - I've had that. But only twice...
[14:30] <Torikun> ghost clone
[14:30] <Euler> Linux pawn 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Wed Jan 28 00:02:01 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:30] <ikonia> Dillizar: mtp ?
[14:30] <Torikun>  I recommend it
[14:30] <Dillizar> !MTP
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Torikun Please dont do that
[14:30] <ikonia> Dillizar: mtp ?
[14:30] <Torikun> sorry, it helped me so much on ubuntu
[14:30] <Dillizar> ikonia, for portable players
[14:30] <ikonia> Euler: so you're actually running it and it's asking you to download
[14:30] <ikonia> Dillizar: what is it ?
[14:30] <Euler> correct
[14:30] <r3dux> Euler, had to recompile alsa 1.19 each time =/
[14:31] <Dillizar> ikonia, mp3 players so i can mount them
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Torikun If it helped you that much, look into getting it packaged
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !packaging
[14:31] <Torikun> ty Jack_Sparrow
[14:31] <Dillizar> ikonia, my player can find it but not my ubuntu
[14:31] <dijinn> Hello there?
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Torikun The fact that they say needs ubuntu testers is a reason enough for concern
[14:32] <ikonia> Dillizar: never heard of it so don't know
[14:32] <dijinn> can someone help me with problems with X-Server?
[14:32] <Torikun> Jack_Sparrow: it works fine on 8.04
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[14:32] <dijinn> I updated, restarted and then, my 8.10 locked up on a terminal...
[14:32] <r3dux> Ubuntu needs testers? I'd say that's us. Black box testers, but testers all the same.
[14:33] <Torikun> *8.10
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Torikun But glad to hear it is working.  Get it packaged
[14:33] <dijinn> Someone?
[14:33] <Dillizar> ikonia, ok
[14:33] <dijinn> Please?
[14:33] <ViperBorg_TERM> brb
[14:33] <scunizi> Dillizar: do you only have an MTP mode on your player?
[14:33] <r3dux> dijinn, start in recovery mode and do a file system check
[14:34] <Dillizar> scunizi, yeah
[14:34] <scunizi> Dillizar: is it an ipod?
[14:34] <dijinn> r3dux: I did that, it fixed everything and still on terminal only
[14:34] <Dillizar> scunizi, nope a philips 6320 30gb
[14:34] <zuher> i managed to install kiba dock, and also the akamaru physics thing. The dock works kinda well, but where do i activate the akamaru physics ?
[14:34] <tgpraveen> Hey guys recently after updating my system rythmbox seems to be very unstable
[14:35] <r3dux> dijinn, you could downgrade your xorg...
[14:35] <tgpraveen> my cpu usage goes to 100% if rythmbox is turned on and playing a song
[14:35] <dijinn> r3dux: if I knew wth happened...lol
[14:35] <tgpraveen> could anyone help? the recent updates upgraded my kernel and lots of other stuff before that my system was much more stable
[14:35] <scunizi> Dillizar: you might want to dl and burn a copy of Jaunty's alpha live cd.. I remember reading that it will have better support for MTP
[14:35] <dijinn> r3dux: I think it's something to do with a custom module I inputted for the acer aspire one
[14:36] <Dillizar> what is that scunizi
[14:36] <scunizi> Dillizar: Jaunty or live cd?
[14:36] <r3dux> dijinn - hmm... what custom module? Try removing?
[14:36] <ViperBorg> brb
[14:36] <Dillizar> scunizi, well jaunty is the new ubuntu??
[14:36] <dijinn> r3dux: pciehp loading on boot...
[14:36] <scunizi> Dillizar: Jaunty is the next ubuntu release.  due out in Oct.
[14:37] <tgpraveen> scunizi: due out in april
[14:37] <imdeveloper> Hi there Ubuntu Funs
[14:37] <dijinn> r3dux it keeps saying for a while that there is no device to add and keep calling it
[14:37] <testest_1> can someone direct me to a simple document that will allow creation of virtual adapters in linux -  i need 1 physical 1 virtual to lease from dhcp server
[14:37] <scunizi> Dillizar: you might check out #ubuntu+1 (it's for jaunty) and ask there if mtp is currently supported.
[14:37] <Dillizar> scunizi, 9.04 is jaunty
[14:37] <r3dux> dijinn, disable it - it's obv not a happy bunny.
[14:37] <tgpraveen> so guys someone please help me out with my rythmbox instability issues please?
[14:37] <dijinn> r3dux yeah, but how am I supposed to do so in the terminal?
[14:38] <scunizi> Dillizar: sorry. I got my numbers/mths mixed.. you're right about the number.. that means April of '09
[14:38] <r3dux> um, it'll be in a config file...
[14:38] <Josshill> Can some help me get my sound working? Whenver I play a video it doesnt work and when I go on skype it does, I have downloaded everything the guides told me to download?
[14:38] <furenku> Is there a way to "mount" an Expresscard on Ubuntu? I'm trying to hook up a Firewire Belkin Expresscard on 8.10
[14:38] <furenku> but nothing happens
[14:38] <dijinn> could not start the X server due to some internal error....
[14:39] <r3dux> dijinn, could add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-___________ (framebuffer?) so it doesn't get loaded
[14:39] <testest_1> fee fi fo fum
[14:39] <testest_1> can someone direct me to a simple document that will allow creation of virtual adapters in linux -  i need 1 physical 1 virtual to lease from dhcp server
[14:39] <amphoteric> good morning
[14:39] <Mba7eth> hi guys ..... can i send emails from my bash ? .... I want to regularly send plain text emails
[14:39] <dijinn> r3dux that's my msg after the fsck
[14:39] <erUSUL> testest_1: eth0 and eth0:1 ?
[14:39] <testest_1> yes!
[14:39] <testest_1> yes!
[14:39] <testest_1> eth0 physical
[14:39] <Slart> Mba7eth: take a look at .. sendemail I think it's called
[14:39] <amphoteric> what channel should I go to for assistance setting up vpnc?
[14:39] <Dillizar> thanks scunizi do ya have problesm with the mp3 on ubuntu??
[14:39] <Torikun> I can kinda assit
[14:39] <erUSUL> testest_1: you just configure them and they appear
[14:39] <furenku> Is there a way to "mount" an Expresscard on Ubuntu? I'm trying to hook up a Firewire Belkin Expresscard on 8.10
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > testest_1
[14:39] <furenku> but nothing happens
[14:40] <Torikun> amphoteric: I use vpnc
[14:40] <dijinn> r3dux how do I actually edit a file in the terminal?
[14:40] <erUSUL> testest_1: for example in the interfaces file (man interfaces)
[14:40] <amphoteric> Torikun: where do I find the group ID and password?
[14:40] <Torikun> your IT admin should tel you that
[14:40] <amphoteric> Torikun: heh, I am the network admin, though I didnt set this up :)
[14:40] <billybigrigger> anyone here have a dell optiplex gx280? im looking to buy one used for a new server and was wondering how well it works with linux?
[14:41] <Torikun> vpnc is the client, thats all I know how to use
[14:41] <scunizi> Dillizar: no but then I don't use mtp.. I have a sansa, tiny ipod and an old creative that I love.. and it only has 256m of space :).. plenty for the gym
[14:41] <testest_1> myunderstanding is that i need to create a bridge
[14:41] <testest_1> is that really necessary?
[14:41] <r3dux> dijinn, grab a vi cheat sheet and vi it :)
[14:41] <Slart> !info sendemail | Mba7eth
[14:41] <r3dux> dijinn, i to insert, e to edit, !q to quit and save?
[14:41] <erUSUL> testest_1: for viertuaql devices ? no afaik
[14:41] <amphoteric> Torikun: ya, thats the problem, no where have a found a source for figuring out what my ID and password should be
[14:41] <dijinn> r3dux, and how do I save it after edit?
[14:41] <Mba7eth> thanks guys
[14:41] <JEEBcz> Any reason Ubuntu still has libx264 from svn20080408 ? I'd think that post-september (with b-adapt 2) builds are stable enough, as x264 usually is (rarely do I see a gamestopper at some rev), Also newer revisions of mplayer won't build either with such an old revision. Only Jaunty seems to have a somewhat new build in the repo
[14:41] <r3dux> dijinn, ijkl are cursor keys, I think
[14:41] <fogel> hi
[14:41] <dijinn> r3dux I'm totally noob with terminals...xD
[14:42] <testest_1> er can you link me to pastepin a ifcfg-eth1 file that will work from simple /etc/network restart?
[14:42] <amphoteric> where can I find a cisco IRC channel? Is there a channel index somewhere?
[14:42] <Slart> JEEBcz: you would have to talk to whoever packages it..
[14:42] <testest_1> dhcp and mac address is specified
[14:42] <Pici> amphoteric: /msg alis help
[14:42] <fogel> can apt-get build/compile programs from repo?
[14:42] <Torikun> check the router
[14:42] <testest_1> i need changable mac address for vlan
[14:42] <JEEBcz> Slart, of course I know that, but I guess getting in hold with such people isn't as easy :/
[14:42] <amphoteric> Pici:  whats that? I am new to IRC
[14:42] <scunizi> amphoteric: I use google for that .. cause it's not just channel but also server dependant..
[14:42] <Pici> amphoteric: Its a way to search for channels on freenode.
[14:42] <r3dux> dijinn, http://www.linux.com/feature/44366
[14:42] <erUSUL> testest_1: man interfaces has all the info
[14:43] <dijinn> r3dux so, I should vi /etc/modules to take it out, right? sudo thing for it
[14:43] <JEEBcz> Also there was a problem with x264 having the wrong dependencies on Ubuntu (wrong asm installed), I'll check if that still stands
[14:43] <Slart> JEEBcz: try searching launchpad.. or look at the package info in packages.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <testest_1> this isn't any help
[14:43] <r3dux> dijinn, zed sounds acceptaptle, so sudo apt-get install it and have a go :)
[14:43] <r3dux> "acceptable"
[14:43] <n8tuser> testest_1 -> you are not using ubuntu  yes?
[14:43] <Slart> JEEBcz: there ought to at least be an email-address to the packager there
[14:43] <amphoteric> thanks everyone
[14:44] <tgpraveen> so guys someone please help me out with my rythmbox instability issues please?
[14:44] <r3dux> dijinn, I think it's worth a go - yes
[14:44] <hikenboot> hello all--I would like to get my running ubuntu system to implement bare metal restore capability and also snapshoting. currently the system partition is ext3 and set as RAID 1 anyone know how I would go about this
[14:44] <fogel> can apt-get build/compile programs from repo?
[14:45] <Chousuke> fogel: apt-build can
[14:45] <KDE-works> so, ich geh filme gucken, machts gut
[14:45] <testest_1> not ubuntu
[14:45] <testest_1> linux 2.6
[14:45] <Slart> fogel: you've read the man page, right? =)  there is a build option, I think it's apt-get build or apt-get install --build
[14:45] <dijinn> r3dux I'm with the thing open on vi....the only problem now is....HOW TO SAVE IT?!?!?!
[14:45] <Chousuke> dijinn: :w
[14:45] <fogel> Chousuke: thanx
[14:45] <Chousuke> dijinn: in command mode
[14:45] <dijinn> :w or just w?
[14:45] <hikenboot> if i convert to an ext4 does would this give the system that capability?
[14:45] <Chousuke> :w
[14:46] <dijinn> thanks a lot
[14:46] <Chousuke> (ie. press esc, then :, then w, then enter)
[14:46] <dijinn> ^-^
[14:46] <r3dux> hikenboot - you'll need a linux version of norton ghost and a server to throw disc images to... The solaris version of this is called jumpstart, never used a linux one, but google and you'll find - search for "linux drive image" or "imagaing" software
[14:46] <dijinn> so...i think that :q is quit?
[14:46] <dijinn> xD
[14:46] <unop> dijinn, yes
[14:47] <fogel> Slart: i read man for apt-get
[14:47] <dijinn> now I'm starting to understand this vi thing
[14:47] <dijinn> ^-^
[14:47] <fogel> but -bb ain't work
[14:47] <JuJuBee> my eth0 lost its IP address because the eth card on dhcp server went blinky.  Can I reset workstation so it gets a new one without rebooting? How at CLI?
[14:47] <mado> oy guys and gals ... hello there
[14:47] <r3dux> JuJuBee, ifdown eth0, ifup eth0?
[14:47] <scunizi> hikenboot: linux version of ghost is partimage.. however it will backup whatever you want to an image but also retains the partition formatting information..like ghost
[14:47] <JuJuBee> Ah.  Thanks
[14:47] <lokixza> JuJuBee, or sudo dhclient eth0
[14:47] <dijinn> r3dux rebooting to see if it works
[14:48] <r3dux> dijinn, good stuff - fingers crossed.
[14:48] <dijinn> r3dux back to the bloody kernel ¬¬
[14:48] <r3dux> f0rk...
[14:48] <JEEBcz> Slart, I think I'll try to ask it via the Launchpad way first since the "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" seem to be a bunch of people, and I might never know if the right person reads the mail (and since the site recommends asking a question via launchpad first)
[14:48] <Slart> JEEBcz: sounds reasonable
[14:48] <dijinn> r3dux at least its not running the pciehp anymore
[14:49] <r3dux> dijinn, have you tried adding vga=773 to your grub boot (assuming you're using grub =/ )
[14:49] <furenku> but nothing happens
[14:49] <JEEBcz> I thought of packaging x264 myself at some time, but I'm quite new to it so I thought I'd just keep away from that part
[14:49] <furenku> Is there a way to "mount" an Expresscard on Ubuntu? I'm trying to hook up a Firewire Belkin Expresscard on 8.10
[14:49] <Slart> fogel: -bb ? isn't it just -b ? apt-get install -b  ?
[14:50] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[14:50] <dijinn> r3dux what is that? in a new line? i did not change any option on it...i guess vga=773 is not an option in it
[14:50] <r3dux> dijinn, there's a whole table of 7xx numbers which mean diff res's at diff colour depths.. a lower rez might work to just get you into X
[14:50] <mado> erm ... can anyone please help me with "mail-clients" ? ... i'm looking for one that can save all the emails i've downloaded so far ... so that i still can read them after re-installing the operating system
[14:50] <Slart> mado: thunderbird will do that.. or evolution.. you just have to save them and back them up somewhere else between reboots
[14:50] <r3dux> mado - backup your emails then restore them. Easy enough to do in thunderbird and most email clients I'd imagine
[14:51] <dijinn> r3dux even with it saying that the x server is down?
[14:51] <Slart> mado: as a matter of fact I think any mail client will do that
[14:51] <mado> thunderbird? ... as far as i know thunderbird doesn't have this function ...
[14:51] <fogel> -bb as i remember
[14:51] <r3dux> dijinn, possibly not then =/ Downgrade, man! Downgrade!
[14:51] <mado> or did i just miss the entry in the menu?
[14:51] <r3dux> dijinn, or purge and reinstall
[14:51] <darthanubis> after reboot, cannot login?
[14:51] <Slart> mado: I didn't say there was an easy menu choice for it..
[14:51] <lokixza> mado, you just need to know what to back and where to restore it
[14:52] <dijinn> r3dux how do I downgrade it?
[14:52] <JEEBcz> thunderbird's mail should all be in the profile folder so copying it should be "enough" in theory
[14:52] <n8tuser> testest_1 ->  something like    sudo ip addr add 10.1.1.1/18 dev eth0 brd +
[14:52] <darthanubis> logins won't work
[14:52] <lokixza> mado, many site if you google that tell you how
[14:52] <HexTasy> ok so now the hardware is actually showing up in eth1 as it should.  But I get "Ignoring unknown interface" when I try to /etc/init.d/networking restart  -  if I use ifconfig to set an IP it works just fine. wth?
[14:52] <Slart> mado: but you can just save the whole ~/.mozilla/thunderbird folder, I think the mails are there
[14:52] <ravious> anyone know the location of the samba error file?
[14:52] <scunizi> Slart: mado they are.
[14:52] <r3dux> dijinn, tried "X -configure"?
[14:52] <dijinn> r3dux I'm getting a /usr/bin/X11/X not found error...and I don't have a clue on why it doesnt see something that IS there
[14:52] <scunizi> ravious: /var/log probably
[14:53] <dijinn> lemme try
[14:53] <ravious> not there :(
[14:53] <mado> ok ... just saving the ".mozilla/thunderbird"-folder scunizi is all i have to do?
[14:53] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> post your /etc/network/interfaces  file
[14:53] <quibbler> mado: yes
[14:53] <mado> that's the one in my home-directory isn't it?
[14:53] <hikenboot> thanks guys i am familiar with ghost and ghost multicasting but was hoping for a snap shot based restore that would have the capability of being restored from a boot disk as well..somthing perhaps free?
[14:53] <quibbler> mado: yes
[14:53] <r3dux> dijinn, to downgrade sudo apt-get purge xorg<possibly numbers and stuff here>, then reinstall with apt-get install xorg or xserver or whatever it's called
[14:53] <HexTasy> n8tuser: post it in the channel?
[14:53] <Slart> mado: yes.. it's a hidden folder, ctrl+h to see it in nautilus
[14:53] <scunizi> mado: yep..
[14:53] <n8tuser> !pastebin | HexTasy
[14:54] <mado> oy guys and gals ... thank you very much ...
[14:54] <r3dux> dijinn, if you don't have a lot on the system already you might just be better off reinstalling.
[14:54] <mado> i hope that i didn't sound like an idiot to you
[14:54] <dijinn> r3dux I DO have a lot on the system already...lol
[14:54] <mado> but i just didn't know how to go about backing up the mails :=)
[14:54] <n8tuser> hikenboot -> what are you trying to accomplish ?
[14:54] <quibbler> mado: no
[14:54] <r3dux> dijinn, there will be ways to configure X and tweak around with it, but if you don't know what'll work it could be a long job
[14:54] <scunizi> mado: actually on ubuntu I think the directory is ~/.mozilla-thunderbird .. but you'll look for it and figure it out.
[14:55] <elhoir> hi guys, i have just installed the aTI prpietary driver, and it slowdown my computer too much
[14:55] <elhoir> can anyone help?
[14:55] <dijinn> r3dux I can't start configure..... "X -configure", "xstart -configure" or "x -configure" wont work
[14:55] <r3dux> dijinn, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:55] <HexTasy> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/d574510c2
[14:55] <n8tuser> elhoir -> umm wouldnt you just remove and de-install to cleanse of such driver?
[14:55] <Caesi> hi all, anyone have tut to increase Ubuntu's performance?
[14:56] <mado> i'll find it ... thank you guys ... i'll be back a bit later ... for example ... when it will come to restore them and some other things ... thank you again ...
[14:56] <elhoir> n8tuser - i have already done that
[14:56] <jareth_> n8tuser: it was in /etc/apache2/ports.conf , thanks :)
[14:56] <dijinn> r3dux I'm in the config utility now
[14:56] <n8tuser> jareth_ -> persistence works man..yeah.. just have to give you a lil hints worked :P
[14:56] <hikenboot> I would like to create multiple snapshot level backups of my RAID 1 system to a second very large hard drive (in a space conscious way of course) and have if necessary the capability of doing so if i had a catastrophic hard drive failure on my raid 1 system partitition
[14:57] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> which interface are you having issues with?
[14:57] <ikonia> hikenboot: ok ?
[14:57] <HexTasy> n8tuser: eth1
[14:57]  * ViperBorg_TERM sighs.
[14:57] <jareth_> n8tuser: i didn't expected multiple config files ;)
[14:57] <ViperBorg_TERM> BRB again
[14:57] <JEEBcz> How could I check the list off stuff that comes via apt-get build-dep X without actually installing them?
[14:57] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> you have a static ip address assigned to it, is that what you desired?
[14:58] <Caesi> ikonia: have u any brief bang tipps on how to increase Ubuntu's perf, apart from the usual visual stuff?
[14:58] <HexTasy> n8tuser: yep, that's what I wanted.
[14:58] <ikonia> Caesi: depends what's causing you problems
[14:58] <JEEBcz> I'd like to check if the asm selection is still untouched on Intrepid
[14:58] <r3dux> Caesi, disable any services you don't need.
[14:58] <dijinn> r3dux in the end, it said ln: creating symbolic link /etc/X11/X File exists
[14:58] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> so what not working? you have an ip address assigned..
[14:59] <elhoir> n8tuser - any idea, please? (you or anyone else)
[14:59] <Caesi> think I found s.th. thanks though http://www.unix-tutorials.com/go.php?id=3567 .. it was more about increasing general per
[14:59] <dijinn> r3dux runnung startx again turned the same errors we had before
[14:59] <r3dux> dijinn, could try nenaming /etc/X11/X to X.backup?
[14:59] <Caesi> no specific prob
[14:59] <r3dux> dijinn, and reconfiging again..
[14:59] <ikonia> Caesi: well what's lagging the visuals or the actual machine "doing" stuff
[14:59] <n8tuser> elhoir -> you have verified the modules or driver has been removed or de-installed? what command you used to verify?
[15:00] <HexTasy> n8tuser: it doesn't automatically assign itself an IP, I have to set it with ifconfig
[15:00] <runpain2> How do i put in panel the internet connection to see when i am connected
[15:00] <pozic> How do I change the language in Gnome for the current user?
[15:00] <HexTasy> and this is my subnet gateway machine - hence, a pain in the tookus
[15:00] <r3dux> dijinn, could also try updating your graphic drivers while your in the console (if you have nvid or ati - god knows for onboard..)
[15:00] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> after you did a /etc/init.d/networking restart  your eth1 did not get an ip address?
[15:00] <elhoir> n8tuser - i followed steps from here -> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat91-inst.pdf
[15:00] <dijinn> r3dux I'm on an acer aspire one....god knows what is my real hardware
[15:01] <HexTasy> n8tuser: that's what i'm trying to tell you, yes.  it errors and says ignoring unknown device
[15:01] <n8tuser> elhoir -> am not going to read just because you post the link.. tell us exactly what you have done..
[15:01] <elhoir> sorry
[15:01] <Caesi> ikonia: I was thinking of such things as disabling tty3-6 and so on; also I somehow have the feeling that my graphics card is not used to its full potential with the nvidia 177 drivers
[15:02] <r3dux> dijinn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[15:02] <ikonia> Caesi: I'll ask again is the machine lagging visually or actually "doing" things, what makes you think disabling tty3-6 will make your nvidia driver use your card better ?
[15:02] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> your interfaces are missing entries for gateway, mask, etc.. please man interfaces   to get a sypnosis
[15:02] <beamsjr> I have a really crazy problem... My server does not seem to respond to ssh unless i am pinging the router from the server?
[15:02] <elhoir> n8tuser - "With superuser permissions, enter the command "sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh" "
[15:02] <dijinn> r3dux, I read that thing a thousand times....lol
[15:02] <elhoir> thats what i did
[15:03] <r3dux> dijinn, lol - sorry, man
[15:03] <knoppix> #petra
[15:03] <quibbler> pozic: add network monitor
[15:03] <ikonia> knoppix: ?
[15:03] <ravious> I've got an 8.10 server runnin samba with an external usb storage shared to the network. It will at random display a blank folder to the clients. The only way i can bring it back is to unmount the drive, remount it and restart samba.. anyone have any advice?
[15:03] <r3dux> dijinn, I'm close to out of ideas... but that doesn't mean there isn't a fix.
[15:03] <dijinn> r3dux no prob at all...lol....I'm used to be shown to that thing
[15:03] <n8tuser> elhoir -> now look inside that script to see if it really removed it, or use  lsmod to verify
[15:03] <HexTasy> n8tuser: ... I don't need a gateway, this IS the gateway
[15:04] <dijinn> r3dux I'm because I runned out of ideas....lol....i'm such a noob
[15:04] <r3dux> dijinn, look up downgrading packages if this has only happened since x upgrade. If since new module insert google blacklisting modules :)
[15:04] <runpain2> i would like an icon to see when i an connected to internet on panel
[15:04] <knoppix> ikonia: i was make a mistake
[15:04] <quibbler> pozic: sorry that was for runpain2
[15:04] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> umm lets back up a few, can you tell us what is your network layout?  what devices are connected to which?
[15:04] <Slart> runpain2: the network monitor doesn't change when you're connected?
[15:04] <HexTasy> i'll brb and explain, breaktime
[15:05]  * r3dux Rocks: Joy Zipper - Thought's A Waste Of Time
[15:05] <Caesi> ikonia: it's not "doing" things, sometimes it lags a little when I scroll in openoffice, sometimes it doesn't redraw the contents of a window instantly when it changes
[15:05] <runpain2> sorry i dont understand
[15:05] <furenku> hey! was trying to use FFADO but my Firewire controller's chipset is no good. Then I got a Firewire Belkin Expresscard - but simply no idea how to hook it up to my system. It doesn't recognize it or anything. Does anyone have experience with this?
[15:05] <runpain2> Slart,
[15:05] <hartog> hi all
[15:05] <ikonia> Caesi: ok - so thats "visual" that's not processing
[15:05] <ikonia> Caesi: what video card do you have ?
[15:05] <JEEBcz> As per "apt-cache showsrc x264" it seems like x264 has the wrong build-deps on i386 - nasm support was killed in November :3 Seems like another thing to add to the question :3
[15:05] <Slart> r3dux: please.. pretty pretty please.. with some chocolate on the side.. kill that "I'm listening to bla bla"-script
[15:05] <dijinn> r3dux, i dunno what made it panic like this. I was on GNOME as usual, restarted cuz I got a problem with the Package Manager and it turned out to this
[15:05] <Caesi> Geforce 8600GS
[15:05] <quibbler> runpain2: right click on panel add network monitor
[15:05] <rashed2020_> How does ubuntu store user accounts?
[15:05] <n8tuser> elhoir -> also it seems you are trying to use an rpm package?
[15:05] <ikonia> rashed2020_: in the password file, the same as every other linux
[15:05] <beamsjr> Has any one heard of this?  My server does not seem to respond to ssh unless i am pinging the router from the server?
[15:06] <r3dux> Hehe, sorry Slart :)
[15:06] <hartog> does anybody know how to get the real vi on ubuntu (not installing from source)
[15:06] <Slart> rashed2020_: you mean the usernames and passwords?
[15:06] <Soyo> What is the difference between su and sudo?
[15:06] <ikonia> Caesi: ok and your using the nvidia binary drivers from Ubuntu
[15:06] <rashed2020_> Yep
[15:06] <runpain2> i cant its not listed quibbler
[15:06] <n8tuser> rashed2020 -> very carefully,  via  /etc/passwd  and /etc/group and /etc/shadow --   man passwd
[15:06] <Caesi> ikonia: yeah I guess, I just downloaded them automatically
[15:06] <Slart> Soyo: su will change user until you type exit, sudo will just run the command after the sudo and then return to the previous used
[15:06] <rashed2020_> I'm trying to get apache to authenticate users using that. But I'm pretty new to linux and not sure what to search for
[15:06] <hartog> Soyo su (set userid) changes you into a different user. sudo just temporarily do-es stuff as the privileged user
[15:06] <r3dux> dijinn, tried KDE? ;)
[15:06] <ikonia> Caesi: go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers, is it enabled in there
[15:06] <rashed2020_> Great, thanks guys.
[15:07] <Caesi> ikonia: yes
[15:07] <Slart> hartog: ah..much better explanation.. =)
[15:07] <elhoir> n8tuser - lsmod shows the module installed, but because im using it right now
[15:07] <Soyo> awesome thanx
[15:07] <ikonia> Caesi: and it says "enabled" and "in use"
[15:07] <Caesi> ikonia: yes
[15:07] <dijinn> r3dux if this helps, I tried to ls the directory that it says that doesnt exist and it REALLY doesnt exist
[15:07] <n8tuser> elhoir -> but you claimed you have un-installed it, so which one is it?
[15:07] <ikonia> Caesi: ok - so the correct driver is in use that's a good start,
[15:07] <elhoir> i uninstalled and reinstalled it
[15:07] <hartog> still wanting to know if I can get a true vi under ubuntu using apt (with super cow powers)
[15:07] <Caesi> ikonia: ok.. I have the effects on medium
[15:07] <elhoir> should i uninstall it?
[15:07] <r3dux> dijinn, actually try "tail /var/log/dmesg" or "cat /var/log/dmesg | grep error"
[15:08] <ikonia> Caesi: so now totally disable compiz (do you know how to do that) and lets see how it behaves for a while without compiz
[15:08] <r3dux> dijinn, see if anything looks frackd
[15:08] <Slart> hartog: true vi? do we have a false vi?
[15:08] <n8tuser> elhoir -> well if your claim it slows you down, why not remove it so you can see the difference afterwards?
[15:08] <hartog> yes, its vim - vi improved
[15:08] <Caesi> ikonia: is that simply using no desktop effects?
[15:08] <gnomefreak> Slart: im guessing he thinks vim is not vi
[15:08] <ikonia> Caesi: correct, disable it
[15:08] <hartog> vim doesnt do paging on big files - vi does
[15:08] <elhoir> n8tuser - okay, i will uninstall now, be back in minutes
[15:09] <quibbler> runpain2: check in synaptic if you have gnome-netstatus-applet installed
[15:09] <hartog> gnomefreak; vim != vi
[15:09] <gnomefreak> hartog: vim inclusing most if not all of vi and has a few extras as i recall. i stopped using vi a while ago
[15:09] <jaw> Ubuntu won't let me boot to CDROM.. It forces me to load the os... How can I force my computer to load the cdrom recovery disk instead of booting to ubuntu?
[15:09] <Caesi> ikonia: yeah it's better, surprise ;-)
[15:09] <Slart> !info nvi | hartog, this might work
[15:09] <dijinn> i got a -110 error for the mmcblk0 device (which curiously is my root) xD
[15:10] <r3dux> jaw - F2 to enter bios, put CD-ROM above Hard Drive in boot order
[15:10] <hartog> thank you both!
[15:10] <n8tuser> jaw -> its not ubuntu that wont let you boot from CDROM it is your bios
[15:10] <FrenchSheep> well..hell comes
[15:10] <dijinn> r3dux I'm running a fsck now to try to fix it
[15:10] <ikonia> Caesi: I'm asking because some cards require specific options in the xorg config to work with compiz,
[15:10] <Caesi> ikonia: ah ok
[15:10] <ikonia> Caesi: some nvidia cards need tweaks to work, so I wanted to see if your card worked "fine" on it's own first of all
[15:10] <runpain2> Thanks quibbler  it was not installed
[15:11] <FrenchSheep> FriendShit Erroneous Nickname
[15:11] <jaw> cdrom is above hard drive in bios but it still boots to ubuntu
[15:11] <Caesi> ikonia: ok alright.. though I still have the feeling it's under its potential somehow
[15:11] <dijinn> r3dux rebooting
[15:11] <r3dux> dijinn, I'm getting close to flying from australia to wherever you are to bang that lappy w/ a wrench :)
[15:11] <quibbler> runpain2: ;-)
[15:11] <ikonia> Caesi: why ?
[15:11] <ikonia> Caesi: what is giving you that feel ?
[15:11] <dijinn> r3dux i'd be glad to see that happening, and I'd get you the biggest wrench around for it...xD
[15:11] <Caesi> ikonia: hm perhaps it's only openoffice
[15:11] <rashed2020_> Ok, I'm swearing off Apache forever
[15:11] <ikonia> Caesi: keep in mind a cards actual potential is limited to the "driver" it uses, and nvidia are a 3rd party closed source ones, some cards perform better than others
[15:11] <ikonia> Caesi: open office is slow on anyone's machine
[15:12] <rashed2020_> Anyone with any HTTP server suggestions that authenticate with PAM easily?
[15:12] <r3dux> rashed2020, Apache's lovely - what's the prob?
[15:12] <Caesi> ikonia: ok.. yeah that's what I thought @ drivers
[15:12] <rashed2020_> It's too hackish to get it to work with PAM
[15:12] <rashed2020_> Never really liked it anyway :/ I'm more a lighttpd person
[15:12] <runpain2> it still is not in the list
[15:12] <gnomefreak> hartog: from man page "Vim  is a text editor that is upwards compatible to Vi."
[15:12] <runpain2> BRB gona reboot any way
[15:12] <r3dux> Pluggable Authentication Modules? Never even heard of rashed2020 --- sorry!
[15:12] <ampex> is there a way to manage network authentication (ldap) using a gui tool?
[15:13] <Slart> gnomefreak, hartog : upwards? meaning vi can do anything vim can... and then some?
[15:13] <dijinn> r3dux it rebooted and fsck'ed it again...now it's rebooting again
[15:13] <dijinn> xD
[15:13] <r3dux> ampex, I were a gambling man I'd say yes :)
[15:13] <gnomefreak> Slart: yep should be
[15:13] <dijinn> r3dux and we are back to the terminal ¬¬
[15:14] <r3dux> Hand me the wrench....
[15:14] <ampex> r3dux: any ideas?
[15:14] <Eurysilas> OK, got an annoying problem that's hard to google for, so here I am again. Every 7 boots or so, after I get past the splash screen, my monitor begins to flash on and off, as if posessed, and X refuses to start. I checked in /var/log, as per standard procedure, and there are warnings, but nothing at the end of the logs, which is what I'd normally google for. Um.....help?
[15:14] <tata> oie
[15:14] <tata> td bom
[15:14] <tata> ?
[15:14] <r3dux> ampex, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LDAP_software
[15:15] <tata> meu msn é thaynara__12@hotmail.com
[15:15] <Slart> !br | tata
[15:16] <hikenboot> perhaps i am asking the wrong question with ubuntu server 8.1 I setup this system with RAID 1 on the system partition but couldn't figure out a way to also make it an LVM as well is this possible?
[15:16] <Slart> !lvm
[15:16] <Ghoul> hey, how do you enable network manager to scan the wireless networks around in intrepid 8.10?
[15:16] <Ghoul> i have a broadcom4311 adapter and it should work out of the box
[15:16] <Slart> hikenboot: I'm not entirely sure but I think you can use raid on top of lvm
[15:17] <Slart> hikenboot: perhaps even the other way around..
[15:17] <r3dux> dijinn, reading... brb
[15:17] <elhoir> n8tuser - okay, i uninstalled modules, verifyed by "lsmod | grep fglrx"
[15:17] <elhoir> verified*
[15:17] <n8tuser> elhoir -> okay, how is the perf now?
[15:17] <Ghoul> accoording to this wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom
[15:17] <dijinn> r3dux sudo r3dux come-back/now
[15:17] <Ghoul> don't feel like intalling a windows dwiver
[15:17] <dijinn> r3dux xD
[15:17] <Ghoul> that's just ugly
[15:18] <HexTasy> ok lets try this again.
[15:18] <elhoir> n8tuser - seems to be quite good, normal
[15:18] <r3dux> dijinn, GMA 950 video chipset - have you tweaked your xorg.conf?
[15:18] <n8tuser> Ghoul -> broadcom bcm43xx is an infamous difficult to make work wifi card with ubuntu
[15:18] <elhoir> but i cannot run games now hehe
[15:18] <Ghoul> n8tuser alas i didn't know that when i bought my laptop a year ago..
[15:19] <r3dux> Ghoul - have your tried ndiswrapper?
[15:19] <Ghoul> r3dux: no.. i was looking for a way without ndirwrapper
[15:19] <r3dux> ndiswrapper is a piece of p1ss - don't fear it. Has worked well for me in the past.
[15:19] <HexTasy> I have this machine running as a gateway for my subnet, it gets a dhcp addy on eth0, and a static IP on eth1 (this is the one that won't work).  I edited /etc/network/interfaces and showed you (paste bin URL from earlier), but the network card won't get an IP automatically, it says "Ignoring unknown device"  but when I set an ip with ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.1 - it works just fine
[15:19] <dijinn> r3dux what you want me to check?
[15:20] <dijinn> r3dux maybe I did that without knowing xD
[15:20] <Ghoul> ah well.. when all else fails; what can i do..
[15:20] <usuario> oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:20] <r3dux> dijinn, I want to know if you've tweaked your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[15:20] <dijinn> r3dux lemme check...I guess I did that
[15:21] <r3dux> dijinn, before you tweaked it I hope you made a backup...
[15:21] <dijinn> r3dux yes, I tweaked that...
[15:21] <dijinn> r3dux i didn't do a backup, but I know what I put in there xD
[15:21] <r3dux> diinn - restore from backup or UNTWEAK it :)
[15:22] <runpain2> heck i use gnome and the network wont connect when i update but when i use Kde session it connects all the time
[15:22] <elhoir> n8tuser - .... and now? :)
[15:22] <runpain2> LOL its weird
[15:23] <r3dux> runpain2, then you have your network settings in a KDE specific file... loads of stuff out there on setting it generic
[15:23] <n8tuser> elhoir -> if you are happy with the speed, -- if aint borked..dont mess with it?  :P
[15:23] <minas> suche notizensystem mit frontend unter gnome und win
[15:23] <runpain2> o_O
[15:23] <dijinn> just add some # in front of my tweak? xD
[15:23] <oskar-> hi, rhythmbox's volume control is applied with a delay of about a second, while the controls in the mixer panel have an effect instantly. what can i do to change it in rhythmbox? the audio settings are all on "alsa"
[15:23] <elhoir> n8tuser - lol , well, i would agree i i could play games without 3D
[15:23] <r3dux> dijinn, that would do it - yeah.
[15:23] <elhoir> if i could*
[15:23] <minas> Ups sorry wrong channel
[15:24] <r3dux> elhoir, you *could* if you like board games :)
[15:24] <n8tuser> elhoir -> sorry im not a gamer, cant assist you much with 3D drivers
[15:24] <dijinn> r3dux crossing fingers again? time to reboot....I untweaked it xD
[15:24] <r3dux> elnoir - run the proprietary drivers for your card - 3D is good.
[15:25] <elhoir> r3dux - thats why i am trying to do but it slowdown my Ubuntu box a lot
[15:25] <dijinn> r3dux back to terminal
[15:26] <r3dux> elhoir, nvidia or ati?
[15:26] <r3dux> dijinn, F*ck =(
[15:26] <r3dux> dijinn, I dunno mate... I'm empty. Other people might, but... can't think of much else to try apart from researching it more
[15:26] <elhoir> r3dux - ati
[15:27] <dijinn> r3dux still the same error (error in locking authority file and then /usr/bin/X11/X not found)
[15:27] <r3dux> elhoir - fglxinfo | grep direct
[15:27] <elhoir> r3dux - my previous card was nvidia but it broke (i uninstalled nvidia drivers first)
[15:27] <dijinn> r3dux of course that after it, xinit returns that was unable to connect to xserver and a server error
[15:27] <elhoir> fglxinfo does not exist :S
[15:28] <elhoir> fglrx you meant?
[15:28] <r3dux> elhoir, try "fglxrinfo"
[15:28] <elhoir> i uninstalled that package, r3dux
[15:28] <elhoir> since as i have said, it slowdown my computer
[15:29] <r3dux> elhoir, it's not slowing down your computer, it's just not configured correctly for direct rendering
[15:30] <elhoir> r3dux - and how can i configure it properly?
[15:30] <Guest93702> ok
[15:30] <dijinn> r3dux i solved the problem with the locing authority file xD but I keep the usr bin problem xD
[15:30] <r3dux> elhoir, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/84354-enabling-3d-direct-rendering-ati.html
[15:30] <loadquo> Anyone have experience with getting the new 64bit specific shockwave flash 10 working?
[15:31] <adi_> hi all
[15:31] <r3dux> dijinn, you what what with the what-what? It's now booting into X?
[15:31] <failure> loadquo nope =/
[15:31] <adi_> this is my lsusb:Bus 005 Device 005: ID 07d1:3c03 D-Link System DWL-G122 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]
[15:31] <mo0se> can connect to local box with vnc as long as someone is logged in, but if that user logs out, you can't vnc anymore.... any ideas?
[15:31] <adi_> but i cant connect to it
[15:31] <adi_> is it possoble that in kernel I dont have this ralink rt73 driver?
[15:31] <dijinn> r3dux I solved half of the problem....but still cant boot into x
[15:32] <Aji-Dahaka> so...how is the netbook remix?  anyone tried it and have a well-formed opinion on it?
[15:32] <r3dux> dijinn, you have the priveledge, nay HONOUR of striking out into unknown Acer One cluster-f*ck territory - I wish you well =P
[15:33] <bazhang> r3dux, watch the language please
[15:33] <n8tuser> mo0se -> you have to use a different vncserver  -- i thought it was vnc4server or x11vnc  i forget, google for these two items
[15:34] <r3dux> Alright, bazhang - no harm/no foul.
[15:34] <dijinn> r3dux I guess I'm dead...I don't want to reinstall everything AGAIN in this sh1t!!!
[15:35] <r3dux> dijinn, I dunno what else to say mate... boot from a live distro (on usb if you have to) and get your stuff... your sys seems a touch broken =/
[15:35] <furenku> hey! was trying to use FFADO but my Firewire controller's chipset is no good. Then I got a Firewire Belkin Expresscard - but simply no idea how to hook it up to my system. It doesn't recognize it or anything. Does anyone have experience with this?
[15:35] <amy__> hi
[15:35] <amy__> how are you?
[15:35] <r3dux> dijinn, if it's important keep researching tho... there'll be a way. I just cant help any further - it's out of scope :)
[15:36] <dijinn> r3dux thanks a lot for your time, man....I'm gona keep researching....I'm in the RunningX how to page now...lol
[15:37] <quibbler> !hi
[15:37] <amy__> can i ask a question?
[15:37] <musix_new_user2> I have a prob with video in kaffeine
[15:37] <quibbler> amy__: just ask
[15:37] <orudie> hi. i just did sudo apt-get install roundcube roundcube-mysql not sure what to do next
[15:38] <jamesstanley> Can anyone tell me what 'device sr1' is?
[15:38] <r3dux> musix_new_user2, try VLC
[15:38] <jamesstanley> i get many errors about it when i try to boot
[15:38] <Slart> jamesstanley: scanner perhaps?
[15:38] <jamesstanley> i don't have a scanner
[15:39] <amy__> can a virus spread from computer to usb drive?
[15:39] <Aji-Dahaka> sure
[15:39] <ikonia> amy__: sure,
[15:39] <jamesstanley> Slart: it complains about buffer i/o errors on a logical block
[15:39] <Aji-Dahaka> a virus is just a file, could go anywhere
[15:39] <r3dux> jamesstanley, http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=device+sr1
[15:39] <jamesstanley> so it's a buffered block device
[15:39] <Slart> jamesstanley: ah.. it seems it a cd rom or similar
[15:39] <jamesstanley> but i can't think what it is
[15:39] <ikonia> amy__: keep in mind this channel is for ubuntu support questions only though and linux doesn't really suffer from virus's in the same way
[15:39] <jamesstanley> r3dux: thanks, but i don't have a web browser
[15:39] <r3dux> lol
[15:39] <amy__> ah ok
[15:39] <jamesstanley> r3dux: i only have internet on my server, and i don't have x on my server
[15:39] <r3dux> jamesstanley, lynx works in text..
[15:40] <jamesstanley> r3dux: i've tried to use lynx enough to know that it doesn't work
[15:40] <scunizi>  jamesstanley so does elinks
[15:40] <jamesstanley> it 'works'
[15:40] <scunizi> jamesstanley: I've always preferred elinks over lynx..
[15:40] <batasrki> quit
[15:41] <jamesstanley> scunizi: i am using links2, and i've found a page on the ubuntu forums about it
[15:42] <r3dux> jamesstanley, no sarcasm - says logical device failure. If you're using a live CD check it for errors..
[15:42] <jamesstanley> r3dux: it did it on the cd so i assumed it was a bad burn
[15:42] <jamesstanley> but it's doing it on the hard disk as well
[15:42] <HexTasy> n8tuser: it was a type in my /etc/network/interfaces file.  I had eht1 instead of eth1  :X
[15:42] <HexTasy> *topo, fitting
[15:42] <JuJuBee> Greetings.
[15:42] <HexTasy> lol, TYPO. wow
[15:42] <JuJuBee> Any squid users?
[15:42] <jamesstanley> it seems to boot fine, it just complains that there are errors, and i'd like to know what device it is
[15:42] <r3dux> jamesstanley, could be a bad download. Compare MD5 checksums of your ISO and the correct MD5 sum.
[15:42] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> fixed now?
[15:43] <jamesstanley> r3dux: it booted and ran fine
[15:43] <jamesstanley> and it's doing it on the hard disk as well
[15:43] <HexTasy> n8tuser: yep, it works.  I did however have to take the gateway assignment out of the equation, kinda messed up my iptables.  but yes it works now
[15:43] <r3dux> james - just because it booted and installed does not mean it's not a corrupt image.
[15:44] <n8tuser> HexTasy -> good, another pair of eyes usually points out those little details :P
[15:45] <HexTasy> well, I was googling for my problem, and noticed a typo in someon elses interface file, figured I'd check for the same.  THERE IT WAS.  oops
[15:45] <r3dux> jamesstanley, the only way to be sure is to md5 it (many terminal tools available for that) and compare it to the md5 of the iso - if they don't match, that's the problem.
[15:45] <jamesstanley> r3dux: idc if it's a corrupt image, the cd isn't even in, how would it get read errors on the cd if it isn't in?
[15:45] <orudie> help please with roundcube. i just did sudo apt-get install roundcube roundcube-mysql not sure what to do next
[15:45] <jamesstanley> it's the same device name as it was when the cd was in
[15:45] <jamesstanley> so sr1 clearly isn't the cd
[15:45] <Dillizar> what i need to type in terminal so i can upgrade my ubuntu
[15:46] <r3dux> jamesstanley, I don't know - how about you work it out.
[15:46] <ikonia> jamesstanley: it's normally a scsi CD drive or now with libata a cdrom on any bus
[15:46] <musix_new_user2> Anybody can say me how to fix video problems  ?
[15:46] <atlef> !upgrade | Dillizar
[15:46] <ikonia> jamesstanley: you can see this in the udev rules
[15:46] <jamesstanley> ok
[15:48] <kupesoft> Wait, can you make a cheque out to yourself and cash it?
[15:48] <r3dux> I was just about to ask when Jaunty is out... but it's 9.10 isn't it? 2009, 10th month. I can't wait til October =/
[15:48] <ikonia> kupesoft: why are you asking an ubuntu support channel
[15:48] <ikonia> r3dux: 9.04
[15:49] <r3dux> 9.04 I can live with :) Thanks, ikonia
[15:49] <kupesoft> ikonia: Why are you asking why I'm asking?
[15:50] <bazhang> kupesoft, its offtopic
[15:50] <kupesoft> ok deal :(
[15:50] <NickUK`> Hello, I am currently having problems running some games that will run on Linux like Guild Wars/Silkroad, I am getting very bad FPS/Lag
[15:50] <ikonia> kupesoft: because it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:52] <NickUK`> Hello, I am currently having problems running some games that will run on Linux like Guild Wars/Silkroad, I am getting very bad FPS/Lag
[15:52] <jamesstanley> NickUK`: have you got 3d accelerated drivers?
[15:52] <ikonia> NickUK`: I assume your using wine ?
[15:52] <ikonia> NickUK`: or native versions ?
[15:52] <NickUK`> Wine
[15:52] <NickUK`> 3D Accelerated Drivers
[15:52] <NickUK`> Where do i get those i find my gfx card info a sec
[15:53] <ikonia> NickUK`: before you being you may want to check the appdb for wine - to check support notes and ask the wine community in #winehq for known issues
[15:53] <ikonia> !appdb > NickUK`
[15:53] <gmathews> Does anyone know how to set up an ftp account in proftpd so that only users in an IRC channel will have access?
[15:53] <NickUK`> Ok
[15:53] <gmathews> or who can point me to what modules i would  need
[15:53] <NickUK`> My 3D Acceleration failed
[15:53] <ikonia> gmathews: for what ?
[15:54] <cast|lir> gmathews: this sounds silly.
[15:54] <ikonia> gmathews: you'd have to write something propritary for that
[15:54] <gmathews> there is one for windows
[15:54] <ikonia> gmathews: you could just make it so that the password for the ftp server is in the irc channels topic, and change it every day
[15:54] <ikonia> gmathews: ask the proftpd community then
[15:54] <gmathews> ikonia: nah..i am talking about something that can do it automatically
[15:54] <cast|lir> ikonia: are you sure are using the right word there, proprietary
[15:54] <ikonia> gmathews: sounds very specific
[15:55] <gmathews> ikonia: those guys are all sleeping ;/
[15:55] <ikonia> cast|lir: maybe -
[15:55] <ikonia> gmathews: leave a message
[15:55] <gmathews> yep i did just waiting
[15:55] <NickUK`> Hello, Can somebody help me find the correct Intel 940GML Drivers for ubuntu
[15:55] <ikonia> NickUK`: intel "drivers" are already built into Xorg
[15:55] <NickUK`> Well my 3d accelration is not working
[15:56] <ikonia> NickUK`: first of all investigate if the 9400ML is supported in linux
[15:56] <cast|lir> gmathews: dont people generally just use a dcc based bot
[15:56] <NickUK`> well guild wars was working on here
[15:56] <ikonia> NickUK`: under linux ?
[15:56] <gmathews> cast|lir: dcc is a shlep when you want to download folders
[15:56] <NickUK`> Yes
[15:56] <ikonia> NickUK`: so what changed to stop it working under linux ?
[15:56] <gmathews> it is for a lan in our hostel
[15:56] <NickUK`> I re-installed
[15:56] <ikonia> NickUK`: same verions of ubuntu as before ?
[15:56] <NickUK`> Yes
[15:56] <cast|lir> gmathews: why not have no password, and just only let lan ips connect
[15:56] <NickUK`> 7.10
[15:57] <NickUK`> I dont want 8.04 it screws with my Wifi
[15:57] <wolter> NickUK`, in what way?
[15:57] <ikonia> NickUK`: well 7.10 is quite old now, are you sure that supports the intel card you have ?
[15:57] <NickUK`> Gave me slow connection
[15:57] <NickUK`> Yes because Silkroad and guild wars
[15:57] <atlef> NickUK`: we are at 8.10 now
[15:57] <ikonia> NickUK`: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf what is the line that says "Driver" saying
[15:57] <NickUK`> were running on here perfect
[15:58] <phidah> I have an ubuntu laptop that suddenly displays a GRUB Error 18 - what do I do?
[15:58] <gmathews> cast|lir: i am going to work on an access list lol thanks though
[15:58] <Travis-42> how can I see what files a particular application is accessing?
[15:59] <SuperGuy_9000> In /, what is initrd.img.old ?
[15:59] <cast|lir> gmathews: could write a PAM module, some people might consider it a joke rather than a project though
[15:59] <ikonia> Travis-42: fuser
[15:59] <NickUK`> http://pastebin.com/m62d451c3
[15:59] <ikonia> SuperGuy_9000: old initrd image
[15:59] <gmathews> cast|lir: sounds too heavy mate ;/
[15:59] <SuperGuy_9000> thanks
[15:59] <SxNDave> gmathews: are you running the ftp locally?
[15:59] <Travis-42> thanks ikonia
[15:59] <ikonia> NickUK`: that looks like the right driver to be using in xorg
[15:59] <ramirand_> SuperGuy_9000 initrd = initial ram disk, used at boot time.
[15:59] <AJC_Z0> How do add an app to the pop-up window for choosing player apps when removable media (CD, DVD, etc.) is inserted?
[15:59] <gmathews> Another question - how do I get the 180 + nvidia drivers which are stable for ubuntu but not yet in the repos
[15:59] <gmathews> SxNDave: yep
[15:59] <NickUK`> So why is it giving me heavy lag
[15:59] <SuperGuy_9000> thanks ramirand :)
[15:59] <ikonia> gmathews: wait for them in the repo
[16:00] <khelll1> My laptop fan is keep running, i can't find the reason, any suggestions?
[16:00] <NickUK`> i struggle to login
[16:00] <spycon9988> how can i delete a .exe file from  ubuntu?
[16:00] <NickUK`> and 3D Acceleration is not working
[16:00] <gmathews> ikonia: is 177 the latest one?
[16:00] <ikonia> NickUK`: look in the xorg log to see why if possible it's not detecting it
[16:00] <mib_ocjt2h> Hi, does any one got time for my problem? ;>
[16:00] <NickUK`> Ikonia in there where shall i find it?
[16:00] <ikonia> gmathews: I see 180 in the rpeos
[16:00] <ikonia> repos
[16:00] <tejas319> anyone here have Red5 with Openmeetings setup?
[16:00] <gmathews> !info nvidia-glx-180
[16:00] <ikonia> NickUK`: /var/log/
[16:00] <gmathews> kewl
[16:00] <SxNDave> gmathews: would it not be possible to directly modify the access list from a mirc script. adding the ips of users as they join the channel?
[16:01] <fogel> spycon9988: until you won't need it for any program ypu installed via wine, you can
[16:01] <NickUK`> So you think i should upgrade to 8.04?
[16:01] <Travis-42> ikonia: this seems to see which processes are using a file, but how do I see which files are being used by a process?
[16:01] <NickUK`> Which is in my Update Manager?
[16:01] <ramirand_> gmathews: Or just download them from nvidia's site... I've done that in the past, their scripts work OK for installs.
[16:01] <ikonia> NickUK`: not if you say it gives you problems
[16:01] <gmathews> SxNDave: that is EXACTLY what I am talking about mate
[16:01] <Travis-42> q:q
[16:01] <NickUK`> Well i can always come back to 7.10
[16:01] <Travis-42> er sorry
[16:01] <gmathews> but where do I get these scriptz ;/
[16:01] <ikonia> Travis-42: lsof
[16:01] <NickUK`> just upgrading now
[16:01] <spycon9988> fogel:there are 8,345 such files at diff places which i want to delete
[16:02] <Travis-42> ok thanks ikonia :)
[16:02] <mib_ocjt2h> I have problem: I tested Orca, and it really messed my sound-system... Everytime I play something, there is weird echo and it slows down things like playing something from youtube
[16:02] <tejas319> Need help configuring Openmeetings on Ubuntu
[16:02] <SxNDave> gmathews: try mircscripts.org. you might ned to adapt one slightly if there isnt one for your particular ftp prog, or change ftp prog.
[16:02] <fogel> spycon9988: on the linux disc?
[16:02] <fogel> not on NTFS or fat32?
[16:02] <spycon9988> yes
[16:02] <fogel> do you have wine?
[16:02] <spycon9988> no
[16:03] <fogel> or dosbox?
[16:03] <spycon9988> no
[16:03] <gmathews> SxNDave: i am running an eggdrop maybe there is one for it
[16:03] <fogel> spycon9988: exe is only dos/windows file
[16:03] <UbuntuUser666> Hello
[16:03] <fogel> and without wine/dosbox you can't even run them
[16:04] <spycon9988> yes i know
[16:04] <NickUK`> This is one big upgrade
[16:04] <SxNDave> gmathews: theres all sorts on there. I used to run an ftp driectly from mirc itself. there are a few scripts about that will do that for you and make it really easy to change access from mirc and channel events.
[16:04] <NickUK`> 1161 FIles to upgrade
[16:04] <spycon9988> i dont want to run them i just want to delete
[16:04] <fogel> so feel free
[16:04] <gmathews> SxNDave: it's going to be a problem now that I am on linux
[16:04] <UbuntuUser666> Can someone please tell me a good Delphi DEcompiler 4 ubuntu?
[16:04] <gmathews> unless there is mirc for *nix SxNDave
[16:05] <gmathews> !info mirc
[16:05] <fogel> spycon9988: you dont need them if you cant use them
[16:05] <SxNDave> gmathews. Im running mirc under wine right nowe and all my scripts work as normal.
[16:05] <spycon9988> but there is some error when i delete them manually
[16:05] <fogel> what error?
[16:05] <tejas319> anyone user red5?
[16:06] <chase_> Hey....is there any way to get into rescue mode without the root password?
[16:06] <UbuntuUser666> Do some one know a good Delphi Decompiler for Ubuntu?
[16:06] <gmathews> SxNDave: isn't there a native linux mirc versionj
[16:06] <spycon9988> it says "the file cannot be moved to thrash"
[16:06] <fogel> spycon9988: can you pase the error line?
[16:06] <fogel> if it's more than 2 lines to http://rafb.net/paste
[16:06] <SxNDave> gmathews, unfortunately not, and theres no plans for one either. its so far down the line now it would be like starting all over again.
[16:07] <spycon9988> no its just ﻿ "the file cannot be moved to thrash"
[16:07] <mo0se> so to clarify, if no user is logged in, and i attempt to vnc in, it's getting refused because vingare won't allow that?
[16:07] <fogel> do you use rm filename
[16:07] <fogel> ?
[16:07] <jamesstanley> spycon9988: 'trash', but nice typo ;)
[16:07] <fogel> do it from terminal as root
[16:07] <spycon9988> no
[16:08] <n8tuser> mo0se -> you have looked into x11vnc as I have suggested earlier?
[16:08] <PrebenR> anybody gotten video thumbnails to work in Thunar? I have installed both the thunar-thumbnailers and the ffmpegthumbnail package
[16:08] <spycon9988> no from gui
[16:08] <mo0se> n8tuser, i looked at vnc4server a little, but just looking to make sure-- the problem is with vingare?
[16:08] <r3dux> spycon9988, lsof | grep <name of file>     --- then kill anything with a handle on the file you want to delete.
[16:08] <chase_> I used remastersys and it deleted my user account...so my entire system is inaccessible because even a rescue terminal requires the root password...any idea on how I can recreate the user so I can log in?
[16:08] <fogel> spycon9988: so do it from terminal
[16:08] <fogel> via root account
[16:09] <spycon9988> but there are 8,345 files at different locations
[16:09] <Slart> UbuntuUser666: I don't think there is something that can make a decent decompile of anything... unless the compile itself left lots and lots of hints
[16:09] <tejas319> ANYONE HERE use RED5
[16:09] <tejas319> or OPENMEETINGS
[16:09] <fogel> spycon9988: so enter the location and rm *.exe
[16:09] <regeya> !CAPS
[16:09] <fogel> and then move to another
[16:10] <n8tuser> mo0se -> use x11vnc  instead
[16:10] <tejas319> my bad
[16:10] <chase_> I can't login at all to my system. I can't even login to the root acount.
[16:10] <mo0se> n8tuser, ok trying that, thank you!
[16:10] <r3dux> grin @ regeya
[16:10] <Slart> tejas319: that's right, upper case.. that will make us notice for sure..
[16:10] <tejas319> lol Slart whether good or bad
[16:10] <tejas319> lol
[16:10] <fogel> spycon9988: or run nautilius as root
[16:10] <thomc> Hi I use coretemp to monitor my cpu temperatures. Is there a way that I could log the output to a file?
[16:10] <oCean_> chase_: did you enable root account??
[16:10] <spycon9988> do i hav any other choice bcause it will take a lot of time to do that
[16:11] <chase_> I didn't do much to the system, it was a beta of an OS called kuki linux for acer aspire one
[16:11] <r3dux> fogel - but lsof is a treasure for fixing sound problems, too! Or used to be... seems to all work alright these days w/ multiple sound-using apps open
[16:11] <oCean_> chase_: it is not ubuntu we're talking about?
[16:11] <chase_> I remastersys'd it with a few changes, remastersys deleted the user account (which was by default called kuki)
[16:11] <chase_> Its ubuntu derived.
[16:11] <comicinker> how do I configure my sd card as a media player for banshee? There was a file like .is_mediaplayer needed. any links? please help!
[16:12] <chase_> Its a minimal install of ubuntu with a different kernal basically.
[16:12] <fuzzy> can someone help me with installing my linksys wireless-b PCMCIA card?
[16:12] <r3dux> comicinker, I'd just point Amarok at it and make it check for changes (in folders options)
[16:12] <arvind_k> !wifi | fuzzy
[16:13] <oCean_> chase_: booting in ubuntu rescue mode, will not ask for pw, but since it does for you.. that's weird
[16:13] <comicinker> r3dux: no amarok. banshee
[16:13] <fuzzy> thanks ill have a look
[16:13] <r3dux> comic - never used banshee - oh well =/
[16:13] <oCean_> chase_: however, you should be able to boot "straight into a shell" appending "init=/bin/sh" to kernel arguments.
[16:13] <khelll1> while trying to configure a package doing this:  ./configure --prefix =/opt/ruby1.9 --program-suffix=1.9.1
[16:13] <khelll1>   i got this error:   configure: error: expected an absolute directory name for --prefix:
[16:13] <chase_> it says enter root password or press control d to continue
[16:13] <chase_> I'll try that.
[16:14] <fsufitch> hi. does anyone know how i can stream data to my printer for it to continuously print?
[16:15] <ramirand_> khelll1: Did you reallyy have a space between --prefix and the = or was that a typo?
[16:15] <fsufitch> as in, as one continuous job
[16:15] <oCean_> chase_: I'm not sure, but it's possible that at that point the filesystems are mounted readonly.
[16:16] <oCean_> chase_: so you will not be able to change root pw or add user until fs are mounted rw
[16:16] <R0D0LF0> Hello. I need help and ideas. I've been unable to install Ubuntu on rig that I have assembled few days ago. The install process always ends  freezing.  For no spam purposes, here a link describing the problem. Thanks!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6687802#post6687802
[16:16] <ramirand_> fsufitch: Don't think I understand - can you explain why you want that?
[16:17] <fuzzy> my wireless card isnt on that site
[16:17] <fsufitch> ramirand_: just to test out whether i can get the same functionality from "someprogram | lpr" as from "someprogram | less"
[16:18] <ManFromM00n> Hi
[16:19] <ramirand_> fsufitch: Well, that would work, but it would spool the data until the app closed, then print it.
[16:19] <arvind_khadri> !hardware | fuzzy
[16:19] <ManFromM00n> Any ubuntu-guru's here?
[16:19] <fsufitch> ramirand_: yes i know. i tried.
[16:19] <arvind_khadri> fuzzy, take a look there... btw which card?? which ubuntu?
[16:19] <fsufitch> ramirand_: but is there any way i can get it to print the stuff as my program prints it out?
[16:20] <fsufitch> ramirand_: or do i have to manually process the page breaks and submit separate jobs?
[16:20] <ramirand_> fsufitch: You want it to print one line on the printer as one line comes from the app? What kind of printer is it?
[16:20] <fuzzy> its a Linksys WPC11 PCMCIA card
[16:20] <oCean_> R0D0LF0: just to be sure, and to exclude hardware failure(s), did you try and boot with 2 cpu's?
[16:20] <fsufitch> ramirand_: it's a regular laser printer. i'm just trying to do new stuff with it
[16:21] <ramirand_> fsufitch: *nix heritage goes all the way back to paper terminals, so such a thing is undoubtedly possible, but probably not with a lot of modern printers.
[16:21] <jatt> I've just installed ubuntu 8.10 on a laptop but apt-cache search openssh-server shows no results. How can I install openssh-server?
[16:21] <fsufitch> ramirand_: i guess i'll have to write a software middleman to this
[16:21] <fsufitch> ramirand_: thanks anyway :)
[16:21] <R0D0LF0> oCean no it a qad core CPU
[16:21] <ramirand_> fsufitch: Probably your best bet, anyway.
[16:22] <ramirand_> fsufitch: Probablly not harder than a few lines of Perl.
[16:22] <R0D0LF0> oCean quad*
[16:22] <jtaji> jatt: try 'sudo apt-get update' first
[16:22] <oCean_> R0D0LF0: o sorry :/
[16:22] <fsufitch> ramirand_: that's Python, to you
[16:23] <fsufitch> aright, cya
[16:23] <ViperBorg_TERM> Does anyone know why the heck when I put in a FAT32 formatted drive, I get an error in the Partition Editor, but when formatted to ext3, I don't get any errors, but when I format back to FAT32, I do?
[16:23] <Slart> fsufitch: I don't think regular laser printers can print a little and then reuse the same paper
[16:23] <ViperBorg_TERM> The drive is a 1.5 TiB drive if that matters.
[16:23] <ramirand_> fsufitch: Heheh, sorry, it'd take 10 minutes to write in Perl (for me), but writing it in Python would probably take an hour..
[16:23] <jatt> jtaji: thanks. works now
[16:24] <skate2> is 64 bit ubuntu anywhere near as good as 64bit vista?
[16:24] <ViperBorg_TERM> skate2: Better.
[16:24] <skate2> ViperBorg_TERM, even the software packages though? not just the o/s
[16:24] <ramirand_> fsufitch: At least 45 minutes of language review, 5 minutes of searching for tab/space errors. ;)
[16:24] <Slart> skate2: I like ubuntu 64 a lot better than I like Vista 64
[16:24] <chosig> skate2, is ford as good as chrysler :P
[16:24] <ViperBorg_TERM> chosig: Damn... burn man.
[16:24] <Slart> ViperBorg_TERM: and you are of course going to tell us what the error message is?
[16:24] <ManFromM00n> Can somebody help me?
[16:24] <biggerfisch> I have a problem: When I log in to my account from the main login screen, I get this message every time http://paste.ubuntu.com/114810/
[16:25] <blizzle_> Slart: I like cheese more than I like dogpoo. Same difference? ;)
[16:25] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: It's telling me it can't read certain parts of the drive. CRC error.
[16:25] <Pici> !ask | ManFromM00n
[16:25] <zaggynl> cyclic redudancy error!
[16:25] <ManFromM00n>  I have problem: I tested Orca, and it really messed my sound-system... Everytime I play something, there is weird echo and it slows down things like playing something from youtube
[16:25] <chosig> Have Ubuntu dropped support for nVidia Geforce2 400MX? trying to start a can made from scrap parts, but i can't get X going
[16:25] <blizzle_> ViperBorg_TERM, You need to run fsck on the partition.
[16:25] <Slart> blizzle_: if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all... I think I'll just stop talking now =)
[16:25] <zaggynl> chosig: try a legacy driver
[16:26] <blizzle_> Slart: I was agreeing with you, and being a little tongue in cheek. Me bad.
[16:26] <ramirand_> skate2: One thing I like better about 64-bit Ubuntu is that you don't  need a ton of hard to get signed drivers. My 64-bit Vista (and 64-bit Win 7) experience was driver-limited, and thus short.
[16:26] <Slart> ViperBorg_TERM: hmm..it is a very big partition for a fat32 drive.. wonder if that could be the reason
[16:26] <Digitalhighway> I have a dell laptop that has video issues with 7.10
[16:26] <chosig> zaggynl, you don't happen to have the name of the package? tried all i could find to no avail
[16:26] <Slart> ViperBorg_TERM: I've never seen that error but I've only used fat32 on smallish flash drives.
[16:26] <fogel> will ubuntu crash if i'll compile needed drivers into kernel and not as modules?
[16:27] <Digitalhighway> how do you correct video issues????
[16:27] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: That's what I was wondering, but I couldn't get Vista or Windows 7 to format it to NTFS at all. I just threw it in the Linux box to see if the drive was bad, but in ext3, it seems to be working fine. That's why I'm confused.
[16:27] <Chousuke> fogel: nah.
[16:27] <skate2> when's the next stable version of ubuntu coming out and is it the one that's supposed to revolutionize things and be a true competitor to windows ive been hearin about?
[16:27] <Slart> fogel: I doubt it.. if the drivers are good, that is
[16:27] <Chousuke> fogel: if it does, file a bug
[16:27] <blizzle_> skate2, 9,04. Jaunty Jackelope, April.
[16:27] <Slart> ViperBorg_TERM: have you tried running badblocks on it? or some other kind of disk check?
[16:27] <fogel> because i have seen linuxex thad failed in such case
[16:27] <fogel> linuxes *&
[16:27] <Chousuke> fogel: after making sure it wasn't just you forgetting something, though :
[16:27] <biggerfisch>  I have a problem: When I log in to my account from the main login screen, I get this message every time http://paste.ubuntu.com/114810/
[16:28] <Chousuke> :P
[16:28] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: Not yet. Think it's worth a shot?
[16:28] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: It's a brand new drive.
[16:28] <ManFromM00n> It seems that there is no answer for this problem, maybe i'll try ubuntu in textmode :D
[16:28] <Slart> skate2: I don't know about that other stuff you said.. but the next version is out in april.. 9.04 Jaunty Jack-something
[16:28] <ManFromM00n> There is no problems
[16:28] <Chousuke> fogel: most likely in those cases the kernel was just misconfigured.
[16:28] <regex-hater> I'm making a very simple script just to learn. I want to be able to write ./myscript * (note the star or wathever its called) and when I do that i want my script to do a simpel ls command insted it preocesses all my files in that folder. How do I if [ "$1" == "*"????
[16:28] <fosco__> skate2, this is a support channel, do you have any support question?
[16:28] <skate2> slart will it be much different as far as using it?
[16:28] <Digitalhighway> Anyone: how do you correct video issues with ubuntu 7.10
[16:28] <skate2> fosco_,  sorry is there a general ubuntu chat?
[16:28] <Slart> ViperBorg_TERM: well... it sure would be nice to find out if the drive is damaged before you start using it for real
[16:29] <fosco__> skate2, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:29] <Slart> skate2: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:29] <skate2> k
[16:29] <ViperBorg_TERM> All righty. I'll give it a shot.
[16:29] <Slart> skate2: I have no idea.. I haven't tried it yet.. you can ask about it in #ubuntu+1
[16:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[16:29] <DrAhmed> hi how is everyone? first day  on ubuntu and i love it   but i dont have sound can anyone help me please?
[16:29] <ramirand_> regex-hater: The shell interprets all "glob" characters ( the * and ? primarily)
[16:29] <silv3r_m00n> is there some way to use RAM as video memory ?
[16:30] <ramirand_> regex-hater: If you want your script to get them, you have to tell the shell not to expand them.
[16:30] <Slart> ViperBorg_TERM: just start the test before going to bed and hopefully it will be finished in the morning
[16:30] <aletinel> hi all! I have a trouble with my WiFi, in ubuntu 7.10 everything was working perfectly, now in latest 8.10 my card (intel pro set wireless 3945 ABG) scan and find networks but is unable to get ip or connect..any help?
[16:30] <ramirand_> regex-hater: Put them in quotes.
[16:30] <ramirand_> regex-hater: myscript "*"
[16:30] <cast|lir> silv3r_m00n: shitty integrated cards do it all the time, it and is always quite shitty
[16:30] <Slart> silv3r_m00n: wasn't that supposed to be one the great things about agp? shared memory or something?
[16:30] <ManFromM00n> Re install is only option for problems
[16:31] <Slart> DrAhmed: tell us what kind of computer you have and what kind of sound hardware
[16:31] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: Will do. Thanks.
[16:31] <Digitalhighway> hi, I have issues with display issues within ubuntu 7.10 who can this be fixed???
[16:31] <Slart> ViperBorg_TERM: also take a look at "smart"..  I think smartctl is a tool to use that
[16:31] <ramirand_> regex-hater: Shell expansion of glob characters is why so many *nix commands look/act/work the same. You don't have to rewrite that functionality yourself for each program or script.
[16:31] <fogel> Chousuke: or maybe do you know if gentoo-sources kernel will work for ubuntu?
[16:31] <chosig> zaggynl, aah found it :) nvidia-glx-96 (so you can slap me on top of my head the next time i ask :P)
[16:31] <DrAhmed> slart it's basicallllly a home built   commpuer not sure whaaat sound caard it has
[16:31] <regex-hater> do i have to do that is it possible just to write just the *
[16:31] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: I'll look into that. Thanks.
[16:32] <DrAhmed> stickey keyboard soryyy
[16:32] <Chousuke> fogel: I have no idea.
[16:32] <silv3r_m00n> cast|lir: u mean it happens by default ?
[16:32] <fogel> co i have to try
[16:32] <blizzle> ViperBorg_TERM, If you can access the drive in Windows, you might want to consider running a fat32->ntfs conversion.
[16:32] <fogel> so *
[16:32] <Slart> DrAhmed: do you have a separate soundcard or are you using one that is combined with the motherboard?
[16:32] <Guest31684> exit
[16:32] <DrAhmed> ccombbined with the  motherboard
[16:32] <sporkmonger_> i just installed ubuntu server on a machine, but failed to check if the network cable was plugged in first, so it never set up the network... what's the easiest way to do that?
[16:32] <Slart> Guest31684: I think /quit is what you're looking for.. or /part
[16:32] <DrAhmed> slart its combined
[16:32] <chosig> fogel, gentoo-sources is a meta package, points to latest stable kernel + gentoo specific patches
[16:33] <Digitalhighway> how do you correct video problems with ubuntu 7.10
[16:33] <ViperBorg_TERM> blizzle: That's what I tried doing when I first got the drive, Windows just hangs and freezes when it even attempts it. That's why I was thinking the drive was bad.
[16:33] <szczym> Helo all. Do you know how to turn on seeing of commands, that are being inserted by script? When i run it, i see only output of commands, cant actually spot a problem ... Thanx for any help
[16:33] <Slart> DrAhmed: ok.. run this command in a terminal "cat /proc/asound/cards".. do you get one line of output? no lines? more than one line?
[16:33] <caci>    February 2009
[16:33] <caci> Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
[16:33] <caci>  1  2  3  4  5  [7m6[0m  7
[16:33] <caci>  8  9 10 11 12 13 14
[16:33] <caci> 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
[16:33] <FloodBot3> caci: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <Slart> caci: nice.. a calendar..thanks.. just what I needed
[16:34]  * zaggynl pats chosig 
[16:34] <ramirand_> szczym: What kind of script? bash?
[16:34] <DrAhmed> slart ok  1 sec
[16:34] <avuton> Is the tcp module not distributed with pulse in jaunty anymore?
[16:34] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: lol
[16:34] <caci>    February 2009
[16:34] <caci> Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
[16:34] <caci>  1  2  3  4  5  [7m6[0m  7
[16:34] <Digitalhighway> can who assist ??
[16:34] <caci>  8  9 10 11 12 13 14
[16:34] <caci> 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
[16:34] <FloodBot3> caci: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <Slart> caci: ok.. you can stop now
[16:34] <horstle> hi
[16:34] <Digitalhighway> can anyone assist?
[16:34] <ViperBorg_TERM> Seriously.
[16:34] <chosig> zaggynl, stupidly me assumed that it would be named something related to geforce or nvidia :P
[16:34] <Bodsda> hi, to run a program at login i put the command into the sessions thing in the menus, are these all kept in a particular folder or something?
[16:34] <ViperBorg_TERM> Caci: Stop pasting calendars into the channel, please.
[16:35] <caci> sry
[16:35] <chosig> Digitalhighway, you have to be more specific
[16:35]  * caci is stupid.
[16:35] <ViperBorg_TERM> Caci: Eh, your not stupid, we all make mistakes. :)
[16:35] <chase_> After you create a user is there a default password that is used?
[16:35] <Aji-Dahaka> the big decision...acer aspire one's linpus thing or ubuntu netbook remix...
[16:36] <ViperBorg_TERM> chase_: Not unless you specified a password for the user. Otherwise it does not have one.
[16:36] <Digitalhighway> chosig: I have a dell laptop inspriron 6000 running the live cd ubuntu 7.10
[16:36] <chase_> is there a way to specify a password during the useradd command?
[16:36] <Digitalhighway> and the video display is a mess
[16:36] <szczym> ramirand: /bin/sh its bash ?
[16:36] <ViperBorg_TERM> Yep. -p
[16:36] <chase_> And...whoever talked about Linpus vs UNR, check out kuki.me, but you'll probably want to wait a week or so for version 3.
[16:37] <Digitalhighway> white boxes, can't see top menu bar
[16:37] <cast|lir> chase_: yes, man useradd, --password
[16:37] <chase_> version 2 has some bugs, as I'm running through now :-p
[16:37] <chosig> brb
[16:37] <ViperBorg_TERM> chase_: Check here for more info: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/useradd.htm
[16:37] <rabidweezle> I'm trying to import a gpg key for wine and software sources isn't doing it correctly :(
[16:37] <Ninja_> Ninja
[16:37] <rabidweezle> what's the command to manually add a gpg key for apt?
[16:37] <ramirand_> azczym: Try running it with bash -x
[16:37] <Aji-Dahaka> chase_: me, then?
[16:38] <Pici> !gpgerr | rabidweezle
[16:38] <ramirand_> szczym: Sorry. Try running it with bash -x foo
[16:38] <DrAhmed> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeslart [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[16:38] <DrAhmed>                       HDA Intel at 0xfea38000 irq 16
[16:38] <DrAhmed>  1 [SAA7134        ]: SAA7134 - SAA7134
[16:38] <DrAhmed>                       saa7130[0] at 0xfebffc00 irq 19
[16:38] <FloodBot3> DrAhmed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <ramirand_> szczym: where foo is the script name.
[16:38] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me that can i install utorrent in ubuntu???
[16:38] <Aji-Dahaka> chase_: ooh, looks neat.  so you recommend not using v2?  is the upgrade not good?
[16:38] <slb_> hi, anyone skilled in crontab?
[16:38] <rabidweezle> ty pici
[16:38] <Slart> DrAhmed: never paste anything more than one line into the channel.. use a pastebin
[16:38] <szczym> ramirand_: thanx
[16:38] <Slart> !pastebin | DrAhmed
[16:39] <biggerfisch>  Tapestry DE Year 2
[16:39] <biggerfisch> sorry
[16:39] <bisho> slb_: want do you want to do with crontab?
[16:39] <Slart> DrAhmed: seems you've got an intel HDA sound chip on that motherboard
[16:39] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me that can i install utorrent in ubuntu???
[16:39] <biggerfisch> I have a problem: When I log in to my account from the main login screen, I get this message every time http://paste.ubuntu.com/114810/
[16:39] <chase_> Version 2 is good, but version 3 should be out very soon
[16:39] <bisho> indian_munnda: utorrent is a windows app
[16:40] <slb_> bisho see http://pastebin.com/dc9a7f43
[16:40] <bisho> You could add a similar tool
[16:40] <Slart> DrAhmed: if you go to system, preferences, sound.. do you see mostly pulseaudio? or mostly alsa? or mostly auto?
[16:40] <Aji-Dahaka> chase_: what's the difference between this kuki and ubuntu?
[16:40] <slb_> bisho, any idea why this would not work
[16:40] <chase_> kuki uses a custom kernel and is very stripped down
[16:40] <Pippo_61> ciao
[16:40] <Pippo_61> !list
[16:40] <ubuntu_xi> Hello. Anyone knows how to turn on compiz on Radeon 9200 SE?
[16:40] <Aji-Dahaka> chase_: ah, I see.
[16:40] <chase_> the hardware functions out of the box but very few applications to use that kernel are included.
[16:40] <indian_munnda> bisho: dont we have it ubuntu version availble
[16:40] <Slart> !it |pippo_61
[16:40] <bisho> slb_: That should exec that script once each hour
[16:40] <bisho> is that what do you want?
[16:41] <slb_> bisho wouldn't that be each minute?
[16:41] <Aji-Dahaka> chase_: thanks, I'll look into it
[16:41] <bisho> indian_munnda: no, but there are alternatives
[16:41] <chase_> okay, so, I can't seem to useradd with init=/bin/sh to the kernel...someone said earlier I might need to mount the filesystem to RW, how can I do that?
[16:41] <szczym> ramirand_: cool, works thanx
[16:42] <bisho> slb_: The 1 means that will be executed at 01 minutes every hour
[16:42] <Slart> slb_: first number is minutes.. so it would run once each hour when the minute number = 1
[16:42] <indian_munnda> bisho: i m looking for any simple and light torrent application
[16:42] <indian_munnda> bisho: no azuerus
[16:42] <giacus> hi all
[16:42] <bisho> For executing every minute, just use * * * * * script
[16:42] <bisho> Or */1 * * * * script
[16:42] <roby> ciao
[16:42] <Fertech> my other computer just got hit with alot of virus and trojan right now i have the hard drive as a slave it a win xp the master hard drive is ubuntu, how can i remove this virus
[16:42] <devsys> can anyone tell me where to look in the filesystem for the menu (Applications) config? My whole applications list has been removed somehow
[16:42] <bisho> 5 minutes will be */5 * * * * script
[16:43] <Fertech> fertech@fertech-desktop:~$ clamscan -r --bell -i /media
[16:43] <Fertech> /media/disk/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Local Settings/Temp/NeroDemo11606/Toolbar.exe: Adware.Search-63 FOUND
[16:43] <roby> come si usa xchat??
[16:43] <bisho> you get the idea
[16:43] <bisho> indian_munnda: try transmission
[16:43] <Fertech> media/disk/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Local Settings/Temp/tmp167.tmp: Trojan.Starter-14 FOUND
[16:43] <jatt> how do I install the X development libraries?
[16:43] <bisho> is very lightweight
[16:43] <rabidweezle> alright, I seemed to have broken libreadline from an install of a psptoolkit (a compiler setup to compile applications for the sony psp), and it broke my gpg, how can I fix readline?
[16:43] <Pippo_61> ciao
[16:43] <scientes> how do i restart pulseaudio
[16:43] <jatt> is there a generic package for this?
[16:43] <Pippo_61> !list
[16:43] <indian_munnda> bisho: k
[16:43] <slb_> bisho, what does the / do?
[16:44] <Pici> !xincludes | jatt
[16:44] <Fertech> media/disk/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Local Settings/Temp/tmp167.tmp: Trojan.Starter-14 FOUND
[16:44] <giacus> vista won't boot after Ubuntu 8.10 installation :( HP H550 laptop , Vista Basic, Grub work perfectly but vista hangs with a blue screen - error bla bla bla.. any help?
[16:44] <bisho> * means every minute
[16:44] <Slart> scientes: sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart or "pkill pulseaudio; pulseaudio -D&"
[16:44] <darthanubis> I can no longer get pass the login screen
[16:44] <jatt> ok
[16:44] <darthanubis> the login screen will no longer accept me
[16:44] <bisho> */<N> means every N minutes
[16:44] <ManFromM00n> F*'*** it seems that nobody can help me with this one... Now i have to reinstall everything again SH***
[16:44] <scientes> Slart, no its set to session instances
 means at minute N
[16:44] <scientes> i figured it out though
[16:44] <Fertech> can win xp infected ubuntu
[16:44] <bisho> so every hour
[16:45] <darthanubis> ManFromM00n, I feel your pain
[16:45] <ManFromM00n> Yeah
[16:45] <darthanubis> Fertech, no
[16:45] <mo0se> Fertech, no
[16:45] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: it is just showing u a black or orange screen after providing username and password?
[16:45] <scientes> Fertech, if you install wine you can get viruses from windows, but otherwise no
[16:45] <slb_> bisho, do there need to be a set # of spaces before command?
[16:45] <bisho> see the point now, slb_?
[16:45] <bisho> No, thats a comment
[16:45] <darthanubis> indian_munnda, yes, it goes to console breifly then restarts gdm
[16:45] <rabidweezle> !readline
[16:45] <bisho> that disables that scripts
[16:45] <scientes> Fertech, and wine cant break your system, you can always remove it and have your system back, although it could delete your files
[16:45] <Fertech> how can i remove them moose
[16:46] <mo0se> remove what?
[16:46] <ManFromM00n> Maybe if i install kubuntu
[16:46] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: i think u need to avoid compiz
[16:46] <bisho> slb_: # is comment
[16:46] <scientes> Fertech, you wont have viruses if you dont install wine, its not installed by default
[16:46] <darthanubis> indian_munnda, what do you mean by that?
[16:46] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: i think u ubuntu goes into EQ overflow
[16:46] <bisho> slb_: For the line, you just need one or more spaces between the cron configuration
[16:47] <Fertech> ok but how can i delete the virus from win xp
[16:47] <darthanubis> indian_munnda, it won't accept a consm tty evenole login fro
[16:47] <amy__> what is this command line for: apt-get -qq
[16:47] <darthanubis> indian_munnda, it won't accept a console login
[16:47] <bisho> amy__: -qq No output except for errors
[16:47] <slb_> bisho, ok, testing, thanks
[16:47] <Fertech>  i have the windows xp as a slave right now
[16:47] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: just try to renaem comipiz bin file, goto /usr/bin, and type this command mv compiz compiz.disabled
[16:47] <amy__> bisho: when I put that command in to the terminal, it doesn't work
[16:48] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: it should definitly work
[16:48] <bisho> amy__:  That alone does not make anything
[16:48] <Fertech> will ubuntu anti-virus avg work or is it only for linux
[16:48] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: use CLI login to rename that file
[16:48] <gatocaradepez> Good day
[16:48] <amy__> what other commands do i need to type in there?
[16:48] <darthanubis> indian_munnda, I'll try that. But I have to do it from rescue cd because I can't login any user from boot
[16:48] <bisho> amy__:  Just hides errors, but if you are not doing anything, there won't be any error anyway
[16:48] <gatocaradepez> I have a problem with my keyboard
[16:48] <bisho> amy__: For doing what?
[16:49] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: use recovery mode
[16:49] <Fertech> mo0se: remove the virus
[16:49] <amy__> updating the system
[16:49] <darthanubis> indian_munnda, will do
[16:49] <amy__> got to restart
[16:49] <slb_> bisho thanks, worked like a charm
[16:49] <bisho> amy__: First: apt-get update
[16:49] <gatocaradepez> When I type a letter, it appears as if I had typed it twide.
[16:49] <LePHiSTO> soar mein sommercopter nimmt formen an..
[16:49] <gatocaradepez> could anyone help me?
[16:49] <slb_> Fertech, avg should work
[16:49] <bisho> slb_: :)
[16:49] <LePHiSTO> ww
[16:49] <slb_> gatocaradepez, yes?
[16:50] <gatocaradepez> yes
[16:50] <Fertech> mo0se: does avg for linux detected viruses for windows
[16:50] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: actually i was facing the same problm that u have right now. Thats why i m sure somehow
[16:50] <slb_> Fertech, yes
[16:50] <r3dux> gato - ask a question - if anyone knows the answer they might well respond
[16:50] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: anyways best of luck
[16:50] <Fertech> ok thank u slb
[16:50] <darthanubis> indian_munnda, I hope so, thanks
[16:50] <darthanubis> indian_munnda, I'll let you know how it goes
[16:50] <gatocaradepez> slb, could you help me with my problem please?
[16:51] <indian_munnda> darthanubis: definitly it would be my pleasure
[16:51] <slb_> yes gatocaradepez, what is it?
[16:52] <chris-rc1> hi
[16:52] <rabidweezle> !reinstall
[16:52] <chase_> Bahhh, I think my entire OS is unsalvagable...
[16:52] <chris-rc1> what is the dns client ubuntu uses?
[16:52] <devsys> Can anyone help me get my Applications menu back? When I click it nothing shows up but a little square
[16:53] <slb_> re viruses, windows viruses won't effect your ubuntu or any other linux operating system, you may send them on to others, so it is useful for others if you keep your ubuntu system free of windows viruses
[16:53] <gatocaradepez> When I type a letter, it appears as if I had typed it twice
[16:53] <marius__> any idea of where to get kopete for kde 3.5?
[16:53] <gatocaradepez> it is not a X problem
[16:53] <oatmealr82> <--Looking for help getting Evolution to connect to Exchange 2007 (anyone have experience?)
[16:53] <gatocaradepez> it is a gnome problem
[16:54] <slb_> devsys, right click on panel, and add gnome menu back
[16:54] <chase_> Does anyone know how to mount the filesystem as RW when in single user mode?
[16:54] <indian_munnda> guys can anyone tell me that how do i avoid password prompting by terminal when i use "sudo" in the terminal???????????
[16:54] <picardo> is there an easy way to set up wireless drivers on ubuntu 8.10? i tried kismet, with madwifi, but they are throwing errors during installation, and the online explanations aren't helpful at all.
[16:54] <arvind_khadri> indian_munnda, advised not to do so
[16:55] <chris-rc1> so no one knows what kind of dns client is used in ubuntu??
[16:55] <chase_> there are scripts out there that do that but its not advised.
[16:55] <slb_> oatmealr82, i can try, but after two years of trying and dumping evolution, i wouldn't recommend the exchange connector
[16:55] <slb_> picardo, using intrepid? mine detects automatically
[16:55] <indian_munnda> arvind_khadri: actually i dont wanna put the password again and again yar
[16:56] <tmccrary> Is it possible to see the Ubuntu Desktop Course - Official Book in say pdf format or even some excerpts?
[16:56] <oatmealr82> slb_ , see PM.
[16:56] <chase_> ubuntu the stores the password for a bit
[16:56] <indian_munnda> arvind_khadri: i did that in fedora a month back but i forgot the procedure now
[16:56] <slb_> picardo, try installing wicd
[16:56] <chase_> you shouldn't have to put it in too much
[16:56] <tmccrary> The book would be a cool gift for some switched folks but I want to see if its worth $60 a pop
[16:56] <picardo> yeah..intrepid. i just installed it on a computer with Windows. i am dual booting. it already has some windows drivers but Ubuntu can't detect them...
[16:56] <bisho> chris-rc1: why you want to know the dns client?
[16:57] <indian_munnda> arvind_khadri: can u tell me?
[16:57] <chris-rc1> bisho: so that i can dump the cash
[16:57] <chris-rc1> cache
[16:57] <arvind_khadri> indian_munnda, no idea
[16:57] <bisho> usually each application has it's own cache
[16:57] <bisho> what problem are you having?
[16:57] <indian_munnda> guys can anyone tell me that how do i avoid password prompting by terminal when i use "sudo" in the terminal???????????
[16:58] <chris-rc1> i need to erase the dns cache. and that should be manages by a client, shouldn't it?
[16:58] <fosco__> indian_munnda, that password is necessary for security reasons
[16:58] <chase_> most people here spend their time trying to do the opposite of that, indian_munnda, make the system more secure :-p
[16:58] <picardo> slb_: is wicd similar to kismet?
[16:58] <szczym> ramirand_: could you have a look on that script http://paste.ubuntu.com/114834/ its not putting the parameters into line but -i and  -o are fine ...
[16:58] <bisho> chris-rc1: Usually the browser has it's own dns cache
[16:59] <chris-rc1> bisho: i wanna access a site, but i cannot from my linux machine. the site can be accessed from all other machines (running windows/linux/mac os x) and from vista on my machine
[16:59] <indian_munnda> fosco_ chase_ actually i just wanted to do that for a particular.
[16:59] <bisho> I see...
[16:59] <bisho> and it's a dns issue?
[16:59] <chris-rc1> bisho: it doesn't matter which browser i use
[16:59] <bisho> could you try host <address>
[17:00] <chase_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#usesudowithoutpasswordprompt
[17:00] <chris-rc1> bisho: i think so because when i try to ping the server it says cannot resolve hostname
[17:00] <chase_> that is how you do it
[17:00] <chase_> but...its not advised.
[17:00] <bisho> to check if it resolvs well
[17:00] <bisho> chris-rc1: and other sites are resolving properly?
[17:01] <chase_> if you had sudo su entered everytime on boot I think it would do that
[17:01] <chase_> add it somewhere like rc.local, wouldn't that work?
[17:01] <chase_> very, very insecure, but...would work, yeah?
[17:01] <chris-rc1> bisho: yes, even the alternative address for this site. just not this specific address. it doesn't even look for it with ping/tracepath
[17:01] <jero> how do i check for if my swap partition is properly mounted?
[17:01] <bisho> chris-rc1: it's a .local address?
[17:02] <chris-rc1> no, it is univis.ovgu.de and univis.uni-magdeburg.de - the latter works
[17:03] <roby> ciao
[17:04] <blizzle> Jere`, You could run gparted and check, and if necessary mount it there.
[17:05] <burgua> hi all! Can somebody help me configure Virtualbox?
[17:05] <burgua> ubuntu is guest OS, host OS is ArchLinux
[17:05] <simone> ciao
[17:05] <simone> !list
[17:05] <burgua> I have some troubles with new version of xorg. Addition is installed
[17:06] <Pici> burgua: What new version?
[17:06] <jero> i just ran gparted
[17:06] <burgua> AFAIR, since this autumn xorg.conf is unsable
[17:06] <jero> it shows me my swap partition but thats just the partition i created. how do i know if its mounted?
[17:06] <burgua> All is stored in hal
[17:07] <burgua> *unusable
[17:08] <jero> my swap partition is /dev/sda6 and my reiserfs partition is /dev/sda3
[17:08] <jero> how do i know if the system really makes use of the swap, hence making sure this is not the cause of my system not suspending properly
[17:09] <darthanubis>  var/log/Xorg.0.log shows Audit: todays date and last login attempt X: client 4 rejected from local host (uid=0 gid=0 pid=8983)
[17:09] <unitedpotsmokers> i wanna make love rite now na na na
[17:09] <khelll1> i have installed a package then mistakenly deleted the bin files from /usr/bin folder, how can i restore or get them back?
[17:09] <darthanubis> how can I resolve this issue?
[17:09] <howtard> hi
[17:10] <howtard> i need help
[17:10] <Slart> unitedpotsmokers: go to #ubuntu-offtopic. they have a singalong you'll love
[17:10] <howtard> with adding memory to my graphics card???
[17:10] <howtard> so that it runs faster
[17:10] <Pici> darthanubis: don't mistype your password?
[17:10] <Slart> khelll1: a package from the official repos?
[17:10] <khelll1> Slart yes
[17:10] <ramirand_> jero: cat /proc/swaps shows what swap partitions are in use.
[17:10] <Slart> howtard: not sure you can do that
[17:10] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: I think it's obvious he's too high to figure that out.
[17:10] <Slart> khelll1: which package was it? that sounds like a big bug
[17:10] <darthanubis> Pici, thats not it
[17:11] <blizzle> khelll1, apt-get remove <packagename> && apt-get install <packagename>
[17:11] <howtard> it sez on my commy specs that it goes up 2 224 mb
[17:11] <ramirand_> jero: But I have no idea how that ties in to suspend.
[17:11] <howtard> buh i wanna c if its usin all dat
[17:11] <Slart> ViperBorg_TERM: mm..he seems to be able to type though..let's hope for the best =)
[17:11] <ramirand_> jero: It might, I just don't know much about suspend.
[17:11] <khelll1> Slart, i deleted it mistakenly, i just want to get back the .bin file
[17:11] <Pici> Slart: I think hes saying that he deleted the files manually.
[17:11] <ViperBorg_TERM> Slart: Yes, indeed. :)
[17:11] <jero> ok my swap partition works if that cat /proc/swaps is accurate
[17:12] <Slart> khelll1: ah.. well.. try reinstalling the packages that had the bin files you deleted.. sudo apt-get install --reinstall blablapackage will do that for you
[17:12] <jero> then i have no clue why i cannot wake up from suspend
[17:12] <ramirand_> jero: That's what the kernel thinks, so it's about as accurate as you can get.
[17:12] <Slart> Pici: almost got a bit worried for a second =)
[17:12] <ramirand_> jero: Same output as "swapon -s"
[17:12] <jero> yep
[17:13] <LordNUniv> Drat, I have a bit of a problem: I installed libgtk2.0-0-dev but while it installed, the console was siginted twice, and the configuration of all the sub-packages which it installed got badly mangled. i managed to remove libgtk2.0-0-dev but i don't know what packages the subpackages were (there were about 15) and all of them are shown as 'installed' in dselect!
[17:13] <jero> /dev/sda6 listed being 1024mb
[17:13] <Slart> !who | jero
[17:13] <LordNUniv> how do i find what packages are depended on by libgtk2.0-0-dev and NOTHING else?
[17:14] <Slart> LordNUniv: start by looking at the package info in synaptic.. I guess you could use apt-cache to get that info too
[17:14] <jero> Any hints how i can track the problem down of suspend not working properly?
[17:14] <LordNUniv> slart: how would i best go about doing that?
[17:14] <ramirand_> jero: It's 1GB?
[17:15] <Slart> LordNUniv: find the package in synaptic, right click on it, select... properties, I think
[17:15] <ramirand_> jero: How much RAM do you have?
[17:15] <jero> ramirand - 512mb ram and 1GB for the swap
[17:15] <LordNUniv> slart: commandline only.
[17:15] <LordNUniv> i'm sshed into the machine, don't have access to an x terminal
[17:15] <jero> it is an old laptop... but ubuntu makes it fly still compared to winxp
[17:15] <Slart> LordNUniv: try apt-cache showpkg blablabla
[17:15] <ramirand_> jero: Ok. It says in the SwapFaq that it has to be at least as big as RAM for hibernation to work.
[17:15] <LordNUniv> slart: thanks, hang on
[17:16] <roby> ciao
[17:16] <jero> actually i tried only suspend, trying hibernation now
[17:16] <ramirand_> jero: You read the SwapFaq? http://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[17:16] <jero> suspend it would go to sleep mode, but waking up fails
[17:16] <Slart> !it | roby
[17:16] <roby> help
[17:16] <darthanubis> "client 4 rejected from localhost"?
[17:17] <ramirand_> jero: Maybe someone else here has more experience. I never suspend.
[17:17] <Slart> LordNUniv: it seems apt-cache depends blablabbla also lists dependencies
[17:17] <LordNUniv> i see
[17:18] <Mud|afk> oh really?
[17:18] <jero> on a notebook suspend is quite essential
[17:18] <Slart> LordNUniv: oh.. I just thought of something.. if you uninstalled that original package you should be able to to "sudo apt-get autoremove" and it should remove all unneeded packages
[17:19] <ramirand_> jero: The only laptop I have that is currently running Xubuntu no longer has a working battery - so I leave it plugged in all the time.
[17:19] <LordNUniv> Slart: thanks
[17:19] <^hashbang^> Slart: you are correct =)
[17:19] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me is there any application available in ubuntu like teamviewer, through which i can use a remote machine and do tasks????
[17:19] <LordNUniv> Slart: no, doesn't remove anything :(
[17:19] <ploom> jero, old laptop might not have acpi, but apm or something instead
[17:19] <ploom> jero, never tried it myself tough
[17:19] <jero> ploom - its not that old :D appart it works perfectly fine in windowsXP
[17:19] <ploom> I can hibernate even my p4 desktop
[17:19] <Slart> LordNUniv: try installing the package again.. then remove it using apt and then try autoremove once more
[17:20] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: you mean setup a server on ubuntu to access it from remote?
[17:20] <LordNUniv> slart: ok
[17:20] <ploom> jero, first you should try without fancy graphics drivers I guess
[17:20] <Slart> LordNUniv: not sure if apt knows you removed it if you used some other method of uninstalling it.. such as dpkg
[17:20] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: no i mean i want to control a remote machine from here like desktop sharing
[17:20] <jero> ploom - it is still a nc8000 hp with a pentium m 1.6ghz and a ati 9600 radeon. Its quite fast if the ram is not filled
[17:21] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: like windows remote desktop or VNC? you can do both with ubuntu, just install tsclient and rdesktop
[17:21] <LordNUniv> also, how do i fix this:
[17:21] <LordNUniv> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[17:21] <LordNUniv>         LANGUAGE = (unset),
[17:21] <LordNUniv>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[17:21] <LordNUniv>         LC_COLLATE = "POSIX",
[17:21] <LordNUniv>         LANG = "en_US"
[17:21] <FloodBot3> LordNUniv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <jero> ploom i tried on a fresh install without any drivers. the original drivers make it fail completely
[17:21] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: for VNC install vncview
[17:21] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: for VNC install vncviewer*
[17:21] <ramirand_> indian_munnda: More than what's available in the Remote Desktop Viewer in Applications / Internet?
[17:21] <BCS-Satori> Does anyone have a suggestion on a web based file manager, which will allow user accounts to be created to add/remove/browse a virtual folder under HTTP(s).  Similar to FTP but when the user logs in they see a folder which they can modify.  Almost like a remote storage solution
[17:21] <jero> nice, i think i need a reinstall after this hibernation attempt
[17:21] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: do i need VNC on the remote machine also
[17:22] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: if you use VNC they remote system will need to be running a vnc server
[17:22] <ramirand_> indian_munnda: Or Terminal Server Client (same place) - They were installed by default on my Ubuntu install.
[17:22] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: what if i use remote desktop viewer
[17:22] <ploom> jero, have you tried acpi=off or something similar too?
[17:22] <LordNUniv> damn, even after adding and removing it autoremove won't remove the stuff it half-installed
[17:22] <jero> not only suspend does not work, but hibernation got the system stuck at "starting up...." without any disk activity at all
[17:22] <ivanhoe> hello evryone
[17:22] <Slart> LordNUniv: I don't remember how to set the locale.. it's not hard but it's been to long since I did it.. but I don't think that error is fatal
[17:23] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: then you need to have the remote system setup to allow remote desktop connections (if it's a windows box)
[17:23] <jero> ploom acpi off is quite anti suspend i would think
[17:23] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: yes it is windows in the remote side
[17:23] <ivanhoe> anyone can help me please , with the use of gpg in ubuntu i want to import a public key but i have plain text i dont know how ca i  import
[17:23] <Slart> LordNUniv: hmm..then I don't really know what to do.. besides doing it manually, of course
[17:23] <LordNUniv> yeah i'm doing it manually
[17:24] <malachai> How can I open a program through SSH? I need it to show up on the remote desktop. For example, I can tunnel to my remote PC through my phone, and I want to open a picture on the desktop
[17:24] <LordNUniv> the 'stuck' packag seemed to be libx11-dev
[17:24] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: ok
[17:24] <LordNUniv> after removing that everything autoremoved properly
[17:24] <Slart> LordNUniv: well.. I have to go now.. good luck.. hope you get it fixed
[17:24] <LordNUniv> i think
[17:24] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: just install termial server client for ubuntu (tsclient, rdesktop)
[17:24] <LordNUniv> i THINK its working now, need to doublecheck
[17:24] <dijinn> Anyone wanna try helping me fix my ubuntu? xD
[17:24] <^hashbang^> dijinn: what's up
[17:24] <ramirand_> malachai: Well, that depends... you want it to open up on the main X display? There's some security in place to make that difficult.
[17:25] <^hashbang^> dijinn: just state your question, do ask to ask...
[17:25] <ploom> jero, anyways suspending and hibernating do work for my desk since ibex
[17:25] <Guest31241> what was the ignore command exactly to get rid off joins,  parts and quits?
[17:25] <^hashbang^> dijinn: don't ask a question to ask a question.. this is a help channel
[17:25] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ well.....my GDM is running, but I cannot go out of the kernel
[17:25] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: and what is to be installed on the remote?
[17:25] <malachai> ramirand: Yes, that's right.
[17:25] <LordNUniv> Slart: thanks for your help :)
[17:25] <Pici> !quietirssi | Guest31241
[17:25] <ploom> jero, for ex they did not work every time before. For ex. I had no sound after resuming
[17:25] <ViperBorg_TERM> !ask > dijinn
[17:25] <jero> ploom on my notebook it couldnt be worse. i would never have thought a failed hibernation attempt could mark my system unbootable
[17:26] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: windows (XP) is already setup for remote desktop serving... google how to setup window XP to allow remote desktop connections
[17:26] <ramirand_> malachai: Just so I know I have this straight, you're dialed in from somewhere else on computer A, and you connect in to computer B, and you want to run something on computer B that will display on computer B?
[17:26] <jero> trying recovery mode now
[17:26] <malachai> ramirand_: Correct again.
[17:26] <^hashbang^> dijinn: GDM and the linux kernel have nothing to do with each other =)
[17:26] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: ok thanx
[17:26] <ramirand_> malachai: Is there a user logged in to computer B?
[17:26] <timahvo1> can I run mpd from two seperate music directories ?
[17:26] <todd_> i have a ?
[17:26] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: np
[17:26] <malachai> ramirand_: I can log in. I'm the administrator
[17:26] <ramirand_> malachai: That is, someone logged in to the X display.
[17:27] <malachai> ramirand_:  I can also log in as the current user
[17:27] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ I boot up the notebook, it boots normaly but instead of running GNOME as it was doing in the morning, it boots in the shell
[17:27] <todd_> tryin to get conky to work this computer
[17:27] <todd_> i do not know what file to config
[17:27] <malachai> ramirand_ Yes
[17:27] <^hashbang^> dijinn: did you chanage your display drivers?
[17:27] <Pici> todd_: ~/.conkyrc
[17:28] <^hashbang^> dijinn: or change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file at all?
[17:28] <dr_Willis> todd_,  the conky web site has a HUGE amount of docs on that topic. :) an dexamples
[17:28] <jero> dijinn did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[17:28] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ i changed the xorg.conf but I already put it back to the basic
[17:28] <ramirand_> malachai: So there's an X display up and running, with a user logged in. OK. Do you know what the X display's ID is?
[17:28] <dijinn> jero I tried it and still not able to go to gnome
[17:28] <todd_> ok ty
[17:28] <malachai> ramirand_ I'm guessing it's :0 ?
[17:28] <ploom> anyways, I would start reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowto but propably you, dear jero already know it
[17:28] <ramirand_> malachai: It's probably something like :0
[17:29] <^hashbang^> dijinn: ok pastebin the output from `startx`
[17:29] <donz> .net
[17:29] <ramirand_> malachai: OK. If it is, then run something in the remote session, and add -display :0 to it.
[17:29] <malachai> ramirand_: All right, that's it?
[17:29] <dijinn> ^hasbang^ exec: 5: /usr/bin/X11/X: Not found
[17:29] <ramirand_> malachai: I'm guessing that will give you an error, since security is probably turned on.
[17:30] <^hashbang^> dijinn: hmm that's not good
[17:30] <jero> not even the recovery mode lets me boot after the failed hibernation attempt...
[17:30] <ramirand_> malachai: But it's worth a try before attempting to figure out anything more difficult! :)
[17:30] <^hashbang^> dijinn: cd into /usr/bin/X11
[17:30] <dijinn> ^haskbang^ I know it's not good....lol....
[17:30] <dijinn> just a sec
[17:30] <^hashbang^> dijinn: then ls -al X
[17:30] <dijinn> lemme boot it once more....i had already turned it off
[17:30] <dijinn>  xD
[17:31] <^hashbang^> dijinn: hmm, k
[17:31] <malachai> ramirand_: I'll try it out in a second. I have to wait until the current user is ready
[17:31] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ I'm giving up and thinking of a fresh install
[17:31] <^hashbang^> dijinn: you could do that too =)
[17:31] <ramirand_> malachai: As an alternative, in the ssh you can type "export DISPLAY=:0"
[17:31] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ but let's keep trying once more
[17:31] <^hashbang^> dijinn: hmm, k
[17:31] <ramirand_> malachai: Then all X programs will use that display by default, w/o specifying -display :0
[17:31] <timahvo1_> anyone know a work aorund to getting mpd working with two seperate music directories other than merging them into one big one ?
[17:32] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ I wanna see if you can help me out...lol...r3dux spent the whole day trying to help me out
[17:32] <StyXman> is there any way to tell synaptics to use a not-official repo?
[17:32] <^hashbang^> dijinn: well, I think you deleted your main X server binary
[17:32] <^hashbang^> dijinn: which means... reinstall
[17:32] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ reinstall of what, exactly?
[17:33] <^hashbang^> dijinn: ubuntu (fastest option)
[17:33] <MalakInc> Hey fellas, I was doing somethings and /bin/bash now appears as a broken link any ideas?
[17:33] <slb_> StyXman, add it to the repositories
[17:33] <timahvo1_> anyone ?
[17:33] <malachai> ramirand_:  Works PERFECTLY. Thanks!
[17:33] <^hashbang^> MalakInc: hmm, do an ls -al /bin/bash
[17:33] <StyXman> slb_: how? I can't enter info manually. it shows a list of official mirrors
[17:33] <ramirand_> malachai: No problem. Just be careful, whatever you start shows up on the X display and is running as YOU.
[17:33] <redspire> Hey there.  If lspci doesn't show a device, but the device (an internal PCI Atheros card) works from a dual-booted OS, does that mean the module I've loaded for it isn't working?
[17:33] <^hashbang^> MalakInc: what do you get?
[17:34] <MalakInc> ^hashbang^ unfort i can't login to SSH i only have local gui access because it's not linked righ tin my /etc/passwd now
[17:34] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ that means formatting and starting from scratch???
[17:34] <slb_> StyXman, in synaptics go to third-party repos and add the one you want there
[17:34] <MagnaZXone> MalakInc: Bevery careful when Symlinking!
[17:34] <arvind_khadri> !ath | redspike
[17:34] <dijinn> it returned nothing
[17:34] <arvind_khadri> !ath | redspire
[17:34] <MalakInc> such that, now i can't pull up a terminal
[17:34] <^hashbang^> dijinn: yes
[17:34] <ramirand_> malachai: So, if you have the privs to wipe out a directory full of irreplaceable photos, and the person receiving the screen accidentally deletes them... well. :)
[17:34] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ what about reinstalling the X server?
[17:34] <arvind_khadri> redspire, it means the device hasnt been detected
[17:34] <StyXman> slb_: no kidding... damn, it *was* easy!
[17:35] <^hashbang^> dijinn: you could try that... apt-get autoremove xorg I think
[17:35] <^hashbang^> MalakInc: so can you get to a shell from the GUI?
[17:35] <dijinn> ^hashbang^what if apt-get is not working?
[17:35] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ what if apt-get is not working?
[17:35] <jero> dijinn - in theory if you install xorg and the gnome-desktop environment it should work, but thats not that far from a fresh install
[17:36] <^hashbang^> dijinn: then get your CD and start from the begining
[17:36] <macvr> hi all ,  how do i prevent a certain app from logging into the .xsession-errors file? my conky keeps filling up the file with errors and i dont get to see others errors
[17:36] <MalakInc> ^hashbang^ : unfortunately , i cannot the gnome-terminal does not load... nor does the failsafe terminal because /bin/bash is broken
[17:36] <redspire> arvind_khadri: Does the kernel perform device detection before modules come into play?  IE, the fact that the device doesn't show up in lspci means the issue isn't module related?
[17:36] <^hashbang^> MalakInc: is /bin/bash broken? or do you have it defined wrong for your useraccount in /etc/passwd
[17:37] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ the only problem is that I run it on the AAO...that means I need to boot from USB
[17:37] <wakeup> hiho folks
[17:37] <MalakInc> ^hashbang^: inside /bin/bash it's broken
[17:37] <^hashbang^> MalakInc: if /bin/bash was broken your system wouldn't even startup properly
[17:37] <MalakInc> ^hashbang^: I'm useing the failsafe GNOME terminal - the failsafe terminal itself is broken cuz /bin/bash can't load
[17:37] <^hashbang^> dijinn: ok, well however you installed it before you will need to do again I guess
[17:38] <wakeup> I am trying to get a wacom tablet on a HP Pavilion tx2000 working, but I can not find any wacom deive in /dev/ any ideas?
[17:38] <Pici> MalakInc: What were you doing that 'broke' bash?
[17:38] <kalimero> MalakInc: check /etc/shells, maybe there are other shells on your system
[17:38] <ramirand_> MalakInc What shell IS working that you got that far?
[17:38] <szabgab> hi ppl, I am the developer of an open source IDE for Perl and would be interested to get help in including it in Ubuntu
[17:38] <joanki123> i'm trying to install qt on my machine.  can anyone tell me which of the packages i will need?
[17:38] <Pici> !newpackage | szabgab take a look at these links
[17:38] <^hashbang^> MalakInc: bash in and of itself if broken would not allow the system startup scripts to run, which in turn would mean, GDM wouldn't even start at all to give you an option to enter into a failsafe mode
[17:38] <arvind_khadri> redspire, afaik ya ...
[17:39] <szabgab> most of its dependencies are already in Debian
[17:39] <ramirand_> MalakInc Or, did this just happen, and you haven't rebooted or anything?
[17:39] <kalimero> MalakInc: and you could edit /etc/passwd file to specify other shell
[17:39] <dijinn> ^hashbang^ thanks buddy
[17:39] <Pici> ^hashbang^: Yes it would. Many scripts run using dash, not bash.
[17:39] <^hashbang^> dijinn: sorry man... good luck
[17:39] <szabgab> so the question how and where could I beg someone to include it in Ubuntu as well
[17:39] <macvr>  hi all .........,  how do i prevent a certain app from logging into the .xsession-errors file? my conky keeps filling up the file with errors and i dont get to see others errors or how do i increase the size of the file?
[17:40] <tin_nqn> hi!
[17:40] <MalakInc> kalimero: Ya /bin/bash is in there - but i'm saying in the actual location /bin/ both my sh and bash links are broken
[17:40] <szabgab> Pici, oh thanks, was busy tying :-)
[17:40] <Pici> szabgab:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages should answer your questions. If you have any more you can ask in #ubuntu-motu
[17:40] <ramirand_> Pici: Ah, yeah, guess /bin/sh is linked to dash these days.
[17:40] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: rm -rf {/etc/X11, /usr/lib/xorg, /usr/bin/X} (The last one means the X directories, as in capitol 'X')
[17:40] <kalimero> $file /bin/bash and sh
[17:40] <joanki123> does anyone know baout installing the latest version of qt on ubuntu?
[17:40] <^hashbang^> Pici: nice.. didn't know ubuntu used dash cool..
[17:40] <joanki123> there are many programs in the repository and i don't know which one to choose
[17:40] <szabgab> Pici, thanks
[17:40] <joanki123> thank you
[17:40] <kalimero> should say itsexecutable
[17:40] <dr_Willis> macvr,  conky i belive has its own logging settings in the conkyrc     you could disable its logging competely perhaps.. or fix the errors in the config
[17:41] <MalakInc> Pici: It was for this reason i was trying to link sh to Bash instead of dash that caused this strange issue
[17:41] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: what are you talking about?
[17:41] <MagnaZXone> Aboot :)
[17:41] <redspire> arvind_khadri: Is there any way to probe for PCI devices other than rebooting?
[17:41] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: Aboot?
[17:41] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: you lost me
[17:41] <tin_nqn> I've just update to Intrepid (from hardy) and I can't install restricted drivers for nvidia. I follow instructions as System->Prerefence->Hardware
[17:41] <athaman> I  have an XP machine with fakeraid 1. I also have a spare sata drive on the machine. I installed ubunto using cd option. it found the raid and all seemed ine. At the end, on reboot, dual boot was not there so i went to xp.  I have tried dos4grub but to no avail.  I can't get to ubuntu any more, unless i use the boot cd again.
[17:41] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: I wasn't asking a question
[17:41] <tin_nqn> but any driver appear
[17:41] <ramirand_> MalakInc /bin/bash shouldn't be a link to anything, it should be /bin/bash the exececutable, AFAIK
[17:41] <ramirand_> MalakInc Mine is, at least.
[17:41] <joanki123> hm does no response mean no one knows, or no one available to answer?
[17:41] <macvr> dr_Willis: the errors are for the if_mounted errors for the unmounted drives... its not a prob
[17:42] <arvind_khadri> redspire, no idea ... sorry
[17:42] <^hashbang^> joankil23: sometimes you have to repeat it... the channel can fill up quickly
[17:42] <athaman> i installed ubunto on the spare sata drive
[17:42] <redspire> arvind_khadri: Okay, thanks for the help.
[17:42] <MalakInc> ramirand_: so by some twist of fate looks like my executable is gone - how can i use administrative privileges in GNOME to modify the /etc/passwd to let my default shell be DASH so i can reinstall Bash?
[17:42] <rabidweezle> !cursors
[17:42] <ramirand_> MalakInc Oh, did you link backwards, and make bash a link to sh (which is a link)
[17:42] <MagnaZXone> "<^hashbang^> dijinn: you could try that... apt-get autoremove xorg I think"
[17:42] <rabidweezle> !cursor
[17:42] <macvr> dr_Willis: i'll check in the conkyrc too... is there anyway to prevent ONLY certain repeating liness from logging in?
[17:42] <rapha> How frustrating. A friend is just asking me for Windows IT support, but I forgot how Windows works.
[17:42] <dr_Willis> macvr,  ahh.  I just tend to tweak my own conky config.   so i keep mine minmal. I would check the homepage/docs - if its doable.. its discussed there.
[17:43] <rabidweezle> anyone know how to install new cursors?
[17:43] <Pici> MalakInc: Sounds like you accidentally replaced bash with a link to something that doesnt exist. You can try booting from a live-cd and replacing bash with a different file.
[17:43] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: ok and ??
[17:43] <MagnaZXone> ?\\&/@c
[17:43] <dr_Willis> macvr,  or make a script/filter script to filter out the conky info from the log files.
[17:43] <MagnaZXone> Boong!
[17:43] <ramirand_> MalakInc can  you run chsh?
[17:43] <Pici> MalakInc: I'd suggest reinstalling bash after doing that though
[17:43] <macvr> dr_Willis: any place i could lookup for help regarding the script?
[17:43] <ramirand_> MalakInc chsh /bin/dash might work
[17:44] <tin_nqn> how can I detect exactly what video card I have?
[17:44] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: newbie ?
[17:44] <^hashbang^> MalakInc: so you get into failsafe via Gnome, but can't get a shell... what if you do ctrl+alt+F2 and logon there?
[17:44] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: hmm, no
[17:44] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: u
[17:44] <rakudave> tin_nqn: use the "lspci" command, this will list all pci-cards
[17:44] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: Its "autoremove" without the "autoremove"...
[17:44] <slb_> tin_nqn, lspci | grep VGA from command line
[17:45] <tin_nqn> slb_: ok, thanks
[17:45] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: Longtimer and loving it even more each day that passes :)
[17:45] <dr_Willis> macvr,  a text filtering script is common stuff. :) grep / awk/perl/ can all do that sort of task.    thats one of the main uses of perl is to 'work with' text files like that.
[17:45] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: I'm newish to debian/ubuntu but not linux... so if I get some of the deb,buntu stuff mixed up forgive me..
[17:46] <beamsjr> my ubuntu server will not respond to a ping unless you are pinging the router from the server then the server will respond to pings, if you stop pinging from the server then the server stops responding... Any Idea why this would happen?
[17:46] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: Questions are never wrong.
[17:46] <Lion> ciao
[17:47] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: Its what built GNU/Linux afterall :=)
[17:47] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: hmm, no question are not dumb, but of course they are not all right, so then they must also be wrong
[17:47] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: there is a right and wrong answer to every question... =)
[17:48] <macvr> dr_Willis: oh... i'm a total linux noob, so need to readup on those stuff... any links i could refer for the perl manpages?
[17:48] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: Ligit they are, yes... in every way shape or form. Theres no "dumb" in a question. But some questions presented in a certain manner can give you the solution more slowly then say using when instead of where :)
[17:49] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone:  Theres no  "dumb" in a question.
[17:49] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone:  Theres no  "dumb" in a question. true but there are dumb questions lol
[17:49] <chris-rc1> bisho: i found the problem
[17:49] <macvr> dr_Willis: also could u check my conkyrc > http://paste.ubuntu.com/114846/ this is for the stuff above the TEXT , which line do i have to change or add?
[17:49] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: thinking like that and development stalls. Instead find the bad denominator and replace it
[17:50] <dr_Willis> macvr,  perl has 1000000000000+ sites on using it. :)   its amazingly documented.      track down a perl tutoral and start learning.. sed/awk is also wotht learning.
[17:50] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: lol true
[17:50] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: Perl is forking my butt, ehm brain right now :=) .. LFS update
[17:50] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: =)~
[17:50] <Notch-1> hi, i need to install ubuntu on another partition of the same hd, how should i do this w/o using the cd drive? (w/ the iso image only)
[17:50] <MagnaZXone> Autoconf is looking for Glob.pm from perl
[17:50] <dr_Willis> macvr,  ive not messed with it in ages..  and its my bed time. so i cant help much more.   check the homdpage/docs for conkly. you may discover  some new feature you want to use.
[17:50] <chosig> magical, questions and insatiable curiosity :)
[17:51] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: ok... do you have Glob.pm installed?
[17:51] <MagnaZXone> no, i dont.. perl-5.10.0
[17:51] <chosig> magical, oops, MagnaZXone was supposed receiver :P
[17:51] <macvr> dr_Willis: oh... sometimes not know what to google for , is like looking for a needle in a hay stack.... thankx for the help, will google for the sed/awk pages
[17:51] <slb_> MagnaZXone, and ^hashbang^ my $0.02 is that the no question is dumb is a product of a very particular kind of education; others such as myself were taught to work towards finding an answer first and then asking when you are truly stuck; not just asking without taking the trouble to do some research; it builds confidence and self-reliance instead of a spoonfed mentality
[17:51] <macvr> thanx
[17:51] <MagnaZXone> We are baxxors! :=)
[17:52] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: use perl -M CPAN -e 'install File:Blob'
[17:52] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: use perl -M CPAN -e 'install File:Glob'
[17:52] <kronicKoH> Hello all
[17:52] <dr_Willis> macvr,  theres whole books on SED and AWK ussage also. :)
[17:52] <MagnaZXone> slb_: Our way is good for making friends as well but we see your point
[17:52] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: tho Glob should be installed, it came with 5.6.0
[17:52] <kronicKoH> Like to say, I am now a loyal uBuntu fan,
[17:53] <macvr> dr_Willis: oh... ok.. thank u ...will do
[17:53] <Notch-1> in other words: how to use ubiquity w/o burning any cd or using any usb pen? i can only use an already installed ubuntu (on the same hd)...
[17:53] <MagnaZXone> -M CPAN fetches this blob off the net as it used to do right ?
[17:53] <kronicKoH> I have currently installed ubuntu studio 8.10 on a pc, i am in shell, and was wondering how to start the x server
[17:53] <^hashbang^> slb_: I agree, but most ppl aren't like that. if they were... google would be there best friend =)
[17:53] <MagnaZXone> Id like to avoid that to maintain a solid base system
[17:53] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: yea
[17:53] <MagnaZXone> ok
[17:54] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: there is also a script/mod now with perl called cpanperl or something like that...
[17:54] <Titan8990> ^hashbang^, really, the ubuntu wiki is sufficient for most things
[17:54] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: or just try cpan
[17:54] <mib_3j3u62a5> anyone else keep having the network manager disappear immediately after running the update manager? I've googled and forumed and wiki'd to no luck.
[17:54] <slb_> ^hashbang^, that is why most people don't know $hit and go through life pretending or abusing other people's work
[17:54] <Titan8990> mib_3j3u62a5, the manager or the applet?
[17:55] <^hashbang^> Titan8990: very true.. that's what impressed me so much with ubuntu.. how well documented everything I needed was
[17:55] <MagnaZXone> ^hashbang^: I feel like writing a mini-perl.c program that replaces real perl in LFS installs
[17:55] <^hashbang^> slb_: yea... true
[17:55] <mib_3j3u62a5> err, seems both. the upgrade says "all sorts of errors!" then I can't get any network stuffs to run.
[17:55] <mib_3j3u62a5> happened the last 2 times I've tried to update.
[17:55] <^hashbang^> MagnaZXone: lol
[17:55] <nickrud_> lsb, the profanity restrictions here extend to obfuscation; everyone knows what they are ;)
[17:55] <dr_Willis> MagnaZXone,  sure Busybox dosent have that feature? :)
[17:55] <kronicKoH> ANYONE: know how to start the X server for ubuntu ? from shell
[17:55] <fosco__> kronicKoH, startx
[17:56] <kronicKoH> okay, so i was mistaken with start x
[17:56] <kronicKoH> thanks fosco_
[17:56] <dr_Willis> no space . :)
[17:56] <kronicKoH> Roger, =D
[17:56] <nickrud_> kronicKoH, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm to start up the gui login screen
[17:56] <kronicKoH> shit ive got a job in 6 months with Google
[17:56] <kronicKoH> i need to get on my gring.
[17:56] <MagnaZXone> slb_: "dumb is a product of a very particular kind of education". Hehe, but as a coder since 1996-7. How dumb can i be :=)
[17:56] <Pici> kronicKoH, Please watch your language in this channel, thank you.
[17:56] <zzz> hi
[17:56] <Pici> !ot | MagnaZXone slb_
[17:57] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: Just want to make sure I know what you are asking... You are logged in to a console terminal?
[17:57] <^hashbang^> kronickoH: woot congratz... please watch your wording here.. =)
[17:57] <kronicKoH> Yes, in Ubuuntu Studio
[17:57] <luigi_> anyone here use maxwellrender on ubuntu?
[17:57] <zzz> i just installed 8.10 on my computer. i need a little help on configuring network
[17:57] <Notch-1> it's that my cdrom drive it's gone, but i have ubuntu already installed on hda, now how can i install ubuntu on hdb? (using the iso image and ubuquity, i suppose...)
[17:57] <MagnaZXone> apt-get be-quiet Picibutto :=)
[17:57] <Titan8990> kronicKoH, do: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[17:57] <kronicKoH> Woot as well, thanks for the warning.
[17:57] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: Oh... dunno anything about Ubuntu Studio.
[17:57] <^hashbang^> kronickoH: np
[17:58] <Titan8990> ramirand_, ubuntu studio is the same as ubuntu with different applications by default
[17:58] <zzz> it seems that it's not saving the settings for the network
[17:58] <Titan8990> ramirand_, and a slightly different kernel
[17:58] <^hashbang^> !network
[17:58] <^hashbang^> oh.. not what I expected
[17:58] <luigi_> anyone here use maxwellrender on ubuntu?
[17:58] <^hashbang^> luigi: what is that?
[17:59] <jero> would the type of windows manager you use have an effect on how hibernation and suspend would be handled ?
[17:59] <luigi_> ^hashbang^, it's a rendering engine
[17:59] <ramirand_> Titan8990: Thanks. Not sure what desktop comes installed with that?
[17:59] <^hashbang^> jero: no, that is managed by acpi
[17:59] <Titan8990> ramirand_, gnome
[17:59] <kronicKoH> Titan8990:  it is saying command not found
[17:59] <^hashbang^> luigi: oh ok cool.. sorry I don't know anything about it..
[17:59] <Titan8990> kronicKoH, sorry, should be:   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[18:00] <blizzle> Ubuntu Studio used a realtime kernel, I think.
[18:00] <kronicKoH> Yes, I used sudo
[18:00] <luigi_> ^hashbang^, i've trouble with it! in ubuntu it's very slow than fedora, and i don't know why!
[18:00] <kronicKoH> although ( sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[18:00] <beamsjr> Anyone here any good with network interfaces?
[18:00] <jero> i still cannot believe hibernation marked my system unbootable including recovery mode not working
[18:00] <^hashbang^> luigi: hmm, google? maybe
[18:01] <jero> this is like very bad
[18:01] <^hashbang^> luigi: ubuntu forums?
[18:01] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: Is gnome installed?
[18:01] <jero> trying 7.04 next
[18:01] <^hashbang^> jero: how about 8.04
[18:01] <kronicKoH> by default i believe kde and gnome were installed
[18:01] <kronicKoH> it did not ask
[18:01] <luigi_> ^hashbang^, nothing!
[18:01] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: aptitude search ubuntu-desktop
[18:01] <Fertech> i install the win xp as a slave in my ubuntu desktop and ran anti-avg and found 165 virus did they get delete or did the anti-virus just found them
[18:01] <^hashbang^> luigi: wow.. ok hmm. let me see
[18:01] <Fertech>  how can i delete them
[18:01] <jero> i love 8.04 ubuntu, on my vbox... but on this laptop it was the distro which did just what i described
[18:02] <jero> thats on a fresh install without messing around with the system
[18:02] <Titan8990> Fertech, those linux scanners usually turn up a lot of false positives from my experience
[18:02] <Titan8990> kronicKoH, give this one a try:   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[18:02] <ygz> tianqi
[18:02] <ygz> ls
[18:02] <Fertech> so what do i do
[18:02] <ygz> exit
[18:02] <kronicKoH> ramirand_:  okay, pulled up all of them, ed, ku, u, xu
[18:02] <ygz> ok
[18:02] <FloodBot3> ygz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <luigi_> ^hashbang^, i don't understand the difference between fedora and ubuntu about just the calculation!
[18:02] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: Does it show i    ubuntu-desktop?
[18:02] <Fertech> Titan8990 what do u do
[18:03] <kronicKoH> p ubuntu-desktop
[18:03] <luigi_> ^hashbang^, semm that fedora use fully the processors and ubuntu not!
[18:03] <Fertech> Titan8990 what do u use
[18:03] <Titan8990> Fertech, I use hijackthis from windows safe mode or dds
[18:03] <kronicKoH> Titan8990:  command not ound
[18:03] <Titan8990> Fertech, nothing better for finding and cleaning viruses in windows
[18:03] <Fertech> i cant boot up in safemode
[18:04] <^hashbang^> luigi: hmm, no I have a core 2 processor and ubuntu uses both.. fully when I complie a kernel =)
[18:04] <Titan8990> kronicKoH, sounds like you don't have a desktop installed.... what did startx return?
[18:04] <Pici> kronicKoH: What version of Ubuntu did you install?
[18:04] <Fertech> Titan8990 when i try to login it just stay there
[18:04] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: Then you'll want to install that.
[18:04] <jero> kronickoh - try sudo xinit
[18:04] <Titan8990> Fertech, log in to windows?
[18:04] <Fertech> yes
[18:04] <luigi_> ^hashbang^, yes, in ubuntu work both, but in fedora it work better!!!
[18:05] <kronicKoH> Pici: Ubuntu Studios 8.10
[18:05] <Fertech>  i can do anything
[18:05] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:05] <Titan8990> Fertech, in safe mode?
[18:05] <Fertech>  virus will use all the cpu
[18:05] <Titan8990> Fertech, fertech, since this is a windows problem, it is off topic, feel free to pm me
[18:05] <Fertech> i can log in safe mode
[18:05] <kronicKoH> ramirand_:  beat me to the question =) will give it a go
[18:05] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: Then Titan's sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start should have a chance.
[18:06] <Fertech> ok
[18:06] <kronicKoH> ahh hah now we are getting somewhere
[18:06] <kronicKoH> installing kubuntu
[18:06] <amacomputa> is it possible to disable LVM encryption without having to reinstall (8.10 intrepid server)
[18:06] <JSidhu> i have ubuntu 8.04 running under VMWare ESXi with VMTools installed and rebooted. But when I try to check the disk space via "df -h", i dont see the root partition, only varrun, varlock,udev,devshm ... what did I do wrong? how can i fix this?
[18:06] <Fertech> i just want to know if the avg for linux delete most of the virus
[18:06] <^hashbang^> !vmware
[18:06] <Fertech>  like that i can work better
[18:07] <kronicKoH> ramirand_:  so i would do "sudo /etc/init.d/kde start" for my kubuntu install?
[18:07] <Fertech> peace out
[18:08] <JSidhu> ^hashbang^:  I already done all that
[18:08] <Fertech> leaving the room
[18:08] <Pici> kronicKoH: kdm not kde
[18:08] <jero> JSidhu - virtualbox runs 8.04 very nicely.
[18:08] <kronicKoH> Roger
[18:08] <JSidhu> jero: it may, but thats not my question
[18:08] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: Um... I think it's kdm.
[18:08] <ukubuntu> is there a command line hack that will remove the first 5 characters from every filename in a folder?
[18:08] <JSidhu> uk: cut
[18:08] <ramirand_> ukubuntu: ls | cut -c6-
[18:09] <ukubuntu> ramirand_: many thanks
[18:09] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: not sure man.. seems strange..
[18:09] <JSidhu> yeah, but the whole system works fine
[18:09] <beamsjr> anyone know how to figure out network problems?
[18:09] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: could you see it before installing vmtools
[18:09] <kronicKoH> Ive always been enthralled with linux, but never had enough help to conquer my simple tasks.
[18:09] <JSidhu> hash: no
[18:09] <kronicKoH> Thanks for the help so far guys
[18:10] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: do a df -h again and pastebin it for me =)
[18:10] <ramirand_> kronicKoH: We'll expect you back to help the newbies later. ;)
[18:10] <JSidhu> i mean everything is running fine, my svn repo, cacti, apache, samba, etc everything, ijust cant see root via mount or df, how else can i check the disk usage
[18:10] <JSidhu> ok hash
[18:10] <zimbres> What packages do I have to install to be able to install fortran 90 programs from source?
[18:10] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: also pastbin your /etc/fstab
[18:11] <JSidhu> already done
[18:11] <JSidhu> http://pastebin.com/m666912e6
[18:11] <kronicKoH> ramirand_:  You can bet on it, unless... of course I fall into a deep ubuntu sleep
[18:11] <mib_smz2a1e2> sorry guys, does kubuntu have its own channel- or is this it?
[18:11] <ramirand_> zinbres: try gfortran - though I think it's Fortran 95?
[18:11] <qdb> hello. changing group does not work instantly in ubuntu gnome
[18:12] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: ok so run fdisk -l and pastebin that
[18:12] <qdb> i need to log out and log in
[18:12] <ramirand_> zimbres: Sorry, typo'd your name.
[18:12] <JSidhu> hash, done
[18:13] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: link?
[18:13] <Titan8990> ramirand_, you can tab complete names in IRC
[18:13] <Titan8990> ramirand_, and command if you are using a good client
[18:13] <ramirand_> Titan8990, Wow, irc clients have come a long way since I was in college.
[18:13] <JSidhu> http://pastebin.com/m666912e6
[18:14] <roaoni> if i want to upgrade from hardy to a newer version of ubuntu.... do i need to walk the upgrade tree?  or can i jump up a few versions?  also when is next LTS release (and can i upgrade to it directly from hardy)
[18:14] <ramirand_> Titan8990, but I bet they work a lot worse over a dialup connection on a VT101. ;)
[18:14] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: where is the fdisk -l output?
[18:14] <Titan8990> ramirand_, hehe, yeah
[18:15] <JSidhu> it should be at the bottom
[18:15] <JSidhu> ahh
[18:15] <JSidhu> try now please
[18:15] <amacomputa> is it possible to disable LVM encryption without having to reinstall (8.10 intrepid server)
[18:15] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: I'm not used to ubuntu's fstab setup. I have never used UUID's for mounting filesytems.. =)
[18:15] <ubuntu_> is this the place to be for help with ubuntu?
[18:16] <JSidhu> hash: yeah, its the freakin vmware setup that kinda edted out my fstab
[18:16] <JSidhu> so now my system sees sda1.. u think if i change my fstab, it will work?
[18:16] <JSidhu> maybe i should take a snapshot and see if it works
[18:16] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: ok try this... do a mkdir /t and then run `mount /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 /t
[18:16] <Kelen> is that possible for nvidia 180.22 running on kernel 2.6.24-23 (hardy)?
[18:16] <mib_smz2a1e2> can anyone help me? simple question; is gparted and trial (live) desktop mode available on the kubuntu install disk?
[18:17] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: then run df -h
[18:17] <ubuntu_> I am wondering if there is a way to install the newest nvidia drivers under ubuntu.... the ones available on the repository has glitches (using Geforce 7300GT)
[18:17] <JSidhu> : special device /dev/cciss/c0d0p1
[18:17] <^hashbang^> !nvidia | ubuntu_
[18:17] <ubuntu_> If anyone can help me I would very much appreciate it.
[18:17] <JSidhu> mount: special device /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 does not exist
[18:17] <Titan8990> ubuntu_, if you have 8.10, you can enable the restricted repositories and the newest nvidia driver is available there
[18:17] <JSidhu> what is /dev/cciss?
[18:17] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: pastebin fdisk -l to a new pastbin window
[18:18] <JSidhu> i dont have that
[18:18] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: not sure... its listed in your /etc/fstab
[18:18] <JSidhu> http://pastebin.com/mee6f1c0
[18:18] <LePHiSTO> JSidhu: it's compaq/hp storage controllers.
[18:18] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: ah much better...
[18:18] <kronicKoH> ramirand_:  Hmm, I've been doing some reading and just came across this.... Q: Should i Have done kubuntu-kde4-desktop if I was looking for kde4.2 or can id so that once I get into kde either way?
[18:18] <LePHiSTO> usually SmartArray
[18:18] <JSidhu> ah i see
[18:18] <^hashbang^> LePHiSTO: thanks bro
[18:19] <JSidhu> hash: those were from before, vmware commented it out
[18:19] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: much better... now try mounting /dev/sda1 to /t
[18:19] <JSidhu> yup[
[18:19] <JSidhu> it worked
[18:19] <ramirand_> kronicKoH, That I can't really help with - I haven't used KDE since 7.10, and from what I heard of KDE4, I was going to avoid it for a while.
[18:19] <LePHiSTO> it consists of cNdNpN
[18:19] <JSidhu> >>  /dev/sda1              15G  7.4G  6.2G  55% /t
[18:19] <kronicKoH> hehe
[18:19] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: ah ok.. to ubuntu is now switching to UUID: mount points like mdadm =(
[18:19] <LePHiSTO> where c is Controller, d is logical disk and p ist partition
[18:19] <JSidhu> LePHiSTO: thanks, i understand
[18:19] <LePHiSTO> k
[18:19] <kronicKoH> i like kde4.... weee ... its purrrty
[18:19] <kronicKoH> =D
[18:20] <ramirand_> kronicKoH, I used to really like it. I might give 4.2 a try again, eventually.
[18:20] <kronicKoH> This is where I got it
[18:20] <kronicKoH>  I already have Ubuntu installed, how can I get Kubuntu?   Install kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-kde4-desktop (applicable to versions prior to 8.10)
[18:20] <JSidhu> so um.. you think its safe to switch to /dev/sda1 instead of the UUIDs
[18:20] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: when i want to access remote machine that vnc server shoould be on the remote machine? And vncviewer on my PC? RIGHT?
[18:20] <JSidhu> :-/
[18:20] <^hashbang^> JSidhu: so you could replace your entries in /etc/fstab.. /dev/sda1 for root, /dev/sda5 swap and I would think /dev/sda2 for boot?
[18:21] <Titan8990> indian_munnda, I believe ubuntu has a vnc client installed by default
[18:21] <Titan8990> !vnc | indian_munnda
[18:21] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: huH? install a vnc server on the computer you want to connect to.. and install vnc viewer on the computer you are going to use to connect FROM
[18:21] <indian_munnda> Titan8990: no it wasn't. I installed it
[18:21] <ramirand_> indian_munnda: Yup. Some vnc servers even serve a java applet vnc client if you want.
[18:21] <kronicKoH> Eminem ft. Dr Dre & 50 Cent - Crack a Bottle
[18:22] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: thanx dude, i made u tired. oops sorry
[18:22] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, There's probably one installed already, it's just not called vncviewer.
[18:22] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: nope I'm good =)
[18:22] <chris-rc1> is there a way to tell networkmanager to rewrite resolv.conf completely, i.e. to erase it and to insert the new dns server(s)??
[18:22] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, See for example Terminal Services Client
[18:23] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, sorry, Terminal Server Client.
[18:23] <indian_munnda> ramirand_: i think that is rdesktop or tsclient? right?
[18:23] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, It does VNC protocol, and (at least for me) it was installed in the default Ubuntu installation
[18:23] <ubuntu_> about installing the latest nvidia drivers they were 1.80.22 or something like that.... I could not see them on a repository
[18:23] <hmaroufi_> hi : any one knows how to fix this : Unable to mount New
[18:23] <hmaroufi_> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[18:23] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: yes, rdesktop and tsclient are for windows remote desktop,
[18:23] <hmaroufi_> i cant mount my dvds
[18:24] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: hmm
[18:24] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, Yeah, tsclient
[18:24] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: try this for your windows box http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvnc.html
[18:25] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, If you start terminal server client, there's a choice for protocol, you can choose VNC.
[18:25] <indian_munnda> ramirand_: but which protocol should i use for windows remotee desktop
[18:25] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, RDP
[18:25] <indian_munnda> ramirand_: ok
[18:25] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: try this for setting up windows remote desktop for XP http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457106.aspx
[18:25] <IPGHOST> hi im using 8.10 desktop ,, how can i tab all lwindows when moving mouse near sound volume icon ????
[18:25] <indian_munnda> ^hashbang^: i alreadyddwnloaddddded that dude
[18:26] <^hashbang^> indian_munnda: kk
[18:26] <indian_munnda> ramirand_: rdpv5 or just rdp?
[18:27] <djalmafilho> hey , someone can help me to install the new version of notification "looks" of Ubuntu 9.04 into 8.10? Which name of this package?
[18:28] <JSidhu> kiddan munndia
[18:28] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, That I don't know.
[18:28] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, I think it depends on the version of the server on the other end.
[18:28] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, Ah, if you hover over the choices... it says
[18:29] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, RDPv5 for connecting to XP or newer, RDP for 2000 and before.
[18:30] <djalmafilho> how I do to install new style notification how in Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04?
[18:30] <indian_munnda> ramirand_: thanx
[18:30] <djalmafilho> My dist is 8.10
[18:30] <ikonia> djalmafilho: you don't mix and match versions
[18:30] <ikonia> djalmafilho: 9.04 packages are for 9.04 - not 8.10
[18:31] <LePHiSTO> mmh?
[18:31] <LePHiSTO> ww
[18:31] <Griswold> Anyhow know what the plans are for GCC 4.4.0 in Ubuntu?
[18:31] <ikonia> Griswold: I imagine it will get updated when and if it's needed
[18:31] <ikonia> Griswold: I imagine your looking at 9.04 at best
[18:31] <Griswold> It is needed for Wine64 development
[18:31] <aclonedsheep> hey, whats the best video editor for linux?
[18:31] <Griswold> Hmm, I see, thanks ikonia
[18:32] <letalis> is checkinstall just totally hosed on 8.10? ive compiled about three different things and i know make install would install them but everytime i use checkinstall it fails
[18:32] <djalmafilho> ikonia: all right, but I need to install that version, how I could to do?
[18:32] <Griswold> As it is required for the ms_abi attribute.
[18:32] <mpalatnik> what can i use to search ldap from ubuntu?
[18:32] <ikonia> djalmafilho: why do you "need" that version
[18:32] <Tuv0k> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[18:33] <Tuv0k> pretty sure that key IS public
[18:33] <ikonia> djalmafilho: that version is a development and not stable and meant for general use yet
[18:33] <djalmafilho> ikonia: not need to be the 9.04 version, I could to compile it!
[18:33] <ikonia> djalmafilho: then you would lose any support and you'd have to know exactly what you where doing and it's dependencies
[18:33] <indian_munnda> ramirand_: dude on more question, what if the user doent have password
[18:34] <djalmafilho> ikonia: You know where I can to download the sources?
[18:34] <quibbler> Tuv0k: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6626736&postcount=34
[18:34] <ikonia> djalmafilho: if you don't know how to download the source, you really should not be compiling it
[18:35] <blizzle> Tuv0k, You need to import the key.
[18:35] <ramirand_> indian_munnda, Hmmm. Don't think I've tried RDP w/o a password. Does it not let you leave it blank?
[18:35] <indian_munnda> ramirand_: haven't tried yet
[18:35] <djalmafilho> ikonia: The Url can be this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/notification-daemon
[18:35] <djalmafilho> ?
[18:35] <ikonia> djalmafilho: if you don't know how to download the source, you really should not be compiling it
[18:35] <Tuv0k> blizzle, I did , thats the mysterious part
[18:36] <indian_munnda> ramirand_: actually my frnd is etting up his XP yet
[18:36] <indian_munnda> setting*
[18:37] <djalmafilho> ikonia: I would like, least to try to do this.
[18:37] <ikonia> djalmafilho: if you don't know how to download the source, you really should not be compiling it
[18:37] <etech> when i open a power point presentation
[18:37] <etech> the music in it is bad
[18:37] <ikonia> djalmafilho: or you should know how to read up to do it, there are docs all over the web
[18:37] <etech> every second it is interrupted
[18:37] <etech> music - music off - music - music off
[18:37] <etech> i use intrepid with openoffice 3 (ppa)
[18:37] <etech> any idea how to solve this?
[18:38] <ikonia> etech: your opening it in open office ?
[18:38] <etech> yes
[18:38] <djalmafilho> ikonia: thanks
[18:38] <ikonia> etech: yeah, I've seen poor support (never music in a presentation) for certain power point functions too,
[18:39] <etech> is the problem in openoffice or ubuntu?
[18:39] <ikonia> etech: I suspect open office based on my experience
[18:41] <Tuv0k> quibbler, not much details about what to do?
[18:41] <s0u][ight> hello how can i enable scrolling when scroll button is pressed and then the mouse is moved up and down
[18:41] <Tuv0k> running the script does nothing
[18:42] <etech> ikonia, only in openoffice 3 ?
[18:42] <ikonia> etech: no, I use open office 2
[18:42] <etech> ok
[18:42] <quibbler> Tuv0k: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:43] <Tuv0k> what? Thats when I get the error, running that cmd does not fix anything?
[18:43] <niko> Hey all, sorry. I was trying to install ubuntu on my vista system to dual boot, but i screwed something up bad and now I cant get into windows. linux didnt work either. in fact, grub was giving me error 21 or 17
[18:43] <blizzle> Tuv0k, Segmentation fault?
[18:43] <quibbler> Tuv0k: are you running 8.04 or 8.10
[18:43] <niko> anyone have any idea why? if it helps, i was doing it on a raid 0 setup of vista. Ubuntu was to go on another drive alltogether. I dont know why i cand get win to go up again
[18:44] <Tuv0k> quibbler, 8.10
[18:44] <Tuv0k> blizzle, no segfault
[18:44] <blizzle> Tuv0k, If so, try rm -fv /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[18:44] <blizzle> Tuv0k, Ok, what's the error?
[18:44] <gionti> salve a tutti
[18:46] <Tuv0k> b;izzI import the seckey for the ppa in launchpad, then when I reload the repos, I get the error that no pub keyfile found, after I just imported one for the exact PPA
[18:46] <blizzle> Tuv0k, Did you Refresh?
[18:46] <Tuv0k> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[18:46] <blizzle> Tuv0k, s/refresh/reload
[18:46] <Tuv0k> blizzle, of course
[18:47] <blizzle> Tuv0k, Sure you imported the correct key? Each ppa project has its own key..
[18:47] <Tuv0k> blizzle, lol, yes I did, because a popup said I did
[18:48] <blizzle> Tuv0k, Um, just ignore the error then :)
[18:48] <Tuv0k> lol, right
[18:49] <gmathews> Hi, is there a program like DVD Shrink for ubuntu?
[18:49] <giacomo> ciao
[18:49] <roaoni> not all updates an be installed; run a partial upgrade to install as many updates as possible;  (from hardy to ibex) .... is this what i want?
[18:49] <ramirand_> Tuv0k, I just went through this last week, seemed to work OK... But it wasn't the simplest of procedures.
[18:50] <blizzle> roaoni, sudo dpkg --confiure -a
[18:50] <Tuv0k> ramirand_, what seemed to work ok?
[18:50] <blizzle> *configure
[18:50] <nbeebo> where is firefox personal settings directory located?
[18:50] <ramirand_> Tuv0k, That whole launchpad public key registration procedure.
[18:50] <^hashbang^> gmathews: try http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[18:50] <blizzle> nbeebo, ~/.mozilla or thereabouts. Try locate places.sqlite
[18:50] <ramirand_> Tuv0k, I registered a key, signed the code of conduct, set up a PPA, etc.
[18:50] <^hashbang^> nbeebo: ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla
[18:51] <gmathews> ^hashbang^: is there anything that is native to Ubuntu?
[18:52] <blizzle> gmathews, filter for dvd rip in synaptic, perhaps.
[18:52] <^hashbang^> gmathews: well, if you know how to use ffmpeg and some of the opensource decrypting and encoding tools, I'm sure you could do it. but nothing that I know of that is 1 app native
[18:52] <mneptok> gmathews: HandBrake
[18:52] <mneptok> ^hashbang^: HandBrake
[18:53] <^hashbang^> mneptok: oh!!
[18:53] <ierogliph>  :)
[18:53] <gmathews> thank you mneptok , i was going to have a look in getdeb.net
[18:53] <mneptok> !info handbrake
[18:53] <^hashbang^> mneptok: nice man... very cool
[18:53] <ramirand_> gmathews: Like DVD Shrink? Maybe dvd::rip?
[18:54] <gmathews> thanks ramirand_
[18:54] <_VIM_> 4~~<1 +
[18:54] <ramirand_> !info dvdrip |gmathews
[18:54] <gmathews> thanks all :)
[18:54] <loyola> i just installed jaunty and i cant move my gnome panels, anybody come across this?
[18:54] <_VIM_> -----------------------------------------bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbn-
[18:54] <gmathews> !info handbrake
[18:54] <ViperBorg_TERM> ?
[18:54] <_VIM_> oops sorry lcd fell on keyboard
[18:54] <blizzle> loyola, Try unlocking them.
[18:55] <ViperBorg_TERM> _VIM_: Ha! Nice.
[18:55] <^hashbang^> _VIM_: hehe
[18:55] <blizzle> loyola, It's a new feature of Jaunty.
[18:55] <ramirand_> _VIM_, Yikes!
[18:55] <_VIM_> it's ok :)
[18:55] <mneptok> ubottu: HandBrake
[18:56] <quibbler> Tuv0k: this script: http://pastebin.com/m76efc477 worked fine for me. I had error for two keys and after run this script and updating, I had no errors. The only thing I had to do was change "intrepid" to "hardy", as I'm running 8.04.
[18:57] <gwyn64_> Does anybody know what the status of the Lide90 driver is?
[18:57] <loyola> how do I unlock the gnome panels? i did a right click but there is no menu item to unlock them
[18:58] <blizzle> loyola: google for gnome panels locked jaunty
[18:58] <mgolisch> unlock?
[18:58] <^hashbang^> loyola: I think it's been renamed to Lock Panel Postion
[18:58] <mgolisch> whatever
[18:58] <mgolisch> :)
[18:58] <unitedpotsmokers> hello... how to download java jre?
[18:58] <loyola> spent 20 min on google looking for solution
[18:58] <blizzle> mgolisch,  The gnome panes in Jaunty are locked by default now, apparently. New feature.
[18:59] <quibbler> !java
[18:59] <erUSUL> !java | unitedpotsmokers
[18:59] <loyola> my panels where expanded, i unchecked expanded and now i can move them
[18:59] <bsurfer> apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[18:59] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks...
[18:59] <unitedpotsmokers> i will try
[18:59] <blizzle> loyola, I wish I could be more specific, but I'm running Xfce on Jaunty.
[18:59] <erUSUL> bsurfer: sun-java6-jre
[18:59] <loyola> thanks blizzle, i figured it out
[18:59] <bsurfer> yes, try it
[19:00] <^hashbang^> blizzle: you running ext4?
[19:00] <loyola> is that a bug then?
[19:00] <blizzle> ^hashbang^, Nah, I upgraded from Intrepid, otherwise I would have tried ext4.
[19:00] <^hashbang^> blizzle: how did you upgrade?
[19:00] <unitedpotsmokers> how to type and compile & run java program in ubuntu?
[19:00] <gmathews> Hey all I found what I was looking for - in case anyone else wants it - http://www.getdeb.net/app/Dvd+Movie+Backup
[19:01] <Brad777> Hi everyone I'm having two problems the first was I started gettin Grub error 17 after messing with my HDD partitions then my lice CD is giving me I/O error Error reading boot CD. Reboot... I tried both of my live CD's and both give me that message when i select anything from the livecd menu
[19:01] <blizzle> ^hashbang^, sudo update-manager -d ;)
[19:01] <ploom> unitedpotsmokers, first you need java SDK. There are numerous ones available for ubuntu
[19:01] <^hashbang^> blizzle: hmm, how does that point to 9.04 release?
[19:02] <^hashbang^> blizzle: doh! nvm
[19:02] <blizzle> ^hashbang^, Suck it and see! It's a full distro upgrade.
[19:02] <^hashbang^> blizzle: yea cool thx
[19:02] <gmathews> Actually http://www.getdeb.net/app/K9Copy looks like a better match to DVD Shrink.
[19:02] <horza> Hi there. Anybody know why ntfsprogs is empty for the amd64 package?
[19:03] <unitedpotsmokers> ploom, i download java.rpm but i dont know how to install it
[19:03] <JCL_> join sugarcrm
[19:03] <horza> unitedpotsmoker: using 'alien'?
[19:03] <unitedpotsmokers> i got 2 files, java.bin and java.rpm.bin
[19:03] <ploom> unitedpotsmokers, while running a debian based distro - no rpm is needed
[19:03] <blizzle> unitedpotsmokers, Better to install via apt-get
[19:03] <unitedpotsmokers> oh ic...
[19:03] <nikrud> unitedpotsmokers, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin, do NOT us rpms
[19:03] <tv7497> guys little bit help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062041
[19:03] <blizzle> unitedpotsmokers, apt-cache search jre
[19:03] <unitedpotsmokers> ok blizzle give me a command
[19:04] <unitedpotsmokers> ok
[19:04] <unitedpotsmokers> jre not sdk?
[19:04] <horza> unitedpotsmokers: it's rare that you can't find anything in the apt-get repository
[19:04] <nikrud> unitedpotsmokers, sdk for you correct. Hadn't read back far enough to see you wanted to develop
[19:04] <horza> Apart from me with ntfsprogs !
[19:04] <blizzle> unitedpotsmokers,  Nope, jre.. java run time environment.. NOT the software developer's kit :)
[19:05] <blizzle> unitedpotsmokers,  Unless you want the SDK :)
[19:06] <nikrud> unitedpotsmokers, it's sun-java6-jdk for the development version (don't know why they had to use a j rather than s)
[19:06] <unitedpotsmokers> blizze, now im study a java programm and i must download java sdk rite...
[19:06] <quibbler> unitedpotsmokers: you have to have the medibuntu repros in your source file
[19:06] <blizzle> unitedpotsmokers, Indeed.
[19:07] <TwoD> I'm no longer able to scroll in any window without having to keep the middle button/wheel pressed. Where's the setting for this?
[19:07] <xmorgan82> come posso connettere wireless la mia connesione internet se network manager mi dice device non gestito
[19:08] <nikrud> !it | xmorgan82
[19:08] <teraflop> hi
[19:08] <ttoine> hey. if you would have to speak with a pulse audio, what would be the better way ??
[19:08] <unitedpotsmokers> i found sun-java6-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6 in terminal, so how to download that?
[19:09] <nikrud> unitedpotsmokers, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin (plugin for the browser, might as well get it)
[19:09] <unitedpotsmokers> sudo apt-get sun-java6-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6?
[19:09] <unitedpotsmokers> ahh ok nikrud thanks
[19:09] <nikrud> unitedpotsmokers, assuming 32bit os install for the plugin.
[19:09] <Cody> dont type the -Sun Java(tM)
[19:09] <nikrud> unitedpotsmokers, you might find system->admin->synaptic package manager a useful gui tool. ctl-f to search
[19:10] <martin101> hello all
[19:10] <^hashbang^> hi martin101
[19:10] <Cody> Where is the Hardware drivers installed at on ubuntu?
[19:11] <nikrud> Cody, system->admin->hardware drivers ?
[19:11] <^hashbang^> Cody: in linux hardware drivers are part of the "kernel" which are install in /lib/modules(%KERNELVERSION%/
[19:11] <unitedpotsmokers> ok thanks guys... it is working... i try type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk".. many thanks guys
[19:11] <Cody> Thanks hash.
[19:12] <^hashbang^> Cody: np
[19:12] <unitedpotsmokers> i confuse... jdk or sdk for compile and run my programme?
[19:12] <nikrud> unitedpotsmokers, for future ref, if you find something on the net that you think you might like, always fire up the synaptic package manager and see if you can find it there first.
[19:13] <kronicKoH> ramirand_:  Hows it going
[19:13] <^hashbang^> unitedpotsmokes: to run "JAVA applications" you need the "JRE", some apps do require you to have "JDK" to run as well, but not most
[19:14] <martin101> I wonder if someone can help, I put ubuntu on 4gb USB stick via unetbootin, i'm installing on a acer aspire one and it is taking absolutely ages to install
[19:14] <^hashbang^> unitedpotsmokes: JRE = Java runtime enviorment
[19:14] <unitedpotsmokers> nikrud : sometimes i use synaptic package manager, but i dont know to choose a right file...
[19:14] <estacao> ola
[19:14] <^hashbang^> environment*
[19:14] <estacao> alguem pode me ajudar
[19:14] <estacao> ?
[19:15] <^hashbang^> !br \estacao
[19:15] <quibbler> !br
[19:15] <^hashbang^> !br | estacao
[19:15] <martin101> it seems to be stuck on 78% how can I tell?
[19:15] <^hashbang^> martin101: srry man.. I have no idea =(
[19:16] <^hashbang^> martin101: do the aspire ones not have a cd drive?
[19:16] <unitedpotsmokers> yes ^hashbang^
[19:16] <unitedpotsmokers> acer one no cd drive
[19:17] <unitedpotsmokers> we need to buy external cd drive
[19:17] <martin101> unetbootin USB
[19:17] <sergeykish> hello that is the "pem" for "accessing the server"?
[19:18] <sergeykish> I know SSH using RSA or DSA, but not this
[19:18] <martin101> I have a external cd drive but don't bother wasting media with unetbootin
[19:18] <alkaser> HI all
[19:18] <nDuff> sergeykish, what's the context here? PEM is a format often used for RSA keys, ie. for SSL and such.
[19:18] <mikeshollen> Hey all, I recently tried to change my usplash through startup-manager but it didn't display the cool graphics, only text.  Any ideas why?
[19:18] <^hashbang^> martin101: we have an SSD in one of our dev products and well, they are slow =)
[19:19] <sergeykish> nDuff, it must be access to server for development
[19:19] <kronicKoH> w00t w00t
[19:19] <martin101> I understand that. but arch installed fine, okay speed etc.. and installing gnome went at a reasonable speed
[19:20] <kronicKoH> kde up and running, now just to test ubuntu studio
[19:20] <Nibblyn> martin101: confirmed working on acer aspire one. already installed one
[19:20] <^hashbang^> martin101: not sure... I don't have an acer to test on sorry
[19:20] <martin101> could be anything to do with I formatted the drive in ext2?
[19:20] <kronicKoH> okay, kde 4.1 is installed, what is proper command to upgrade to 4.2?
[19:20] <nDuff> sergeykish, well -- PEM-formatted keys are used for enough different things that I can't give you much advice without more context; it could be for OpenVPN, or for stunnel, or for Apache server-side, or for installation on your web browser as a client-side SSL certificate
[19:21] <sergeykish> nDuff, thanks I can't find this such content
[19:21] <sergeykish> *too
[19:23] <^hashbang^> woot, now upgrading to 9.04 this will be interesting... hope nothing breaks
[19:23] <Nibblyn> martin101: ext2 is ok. check your iso. there is an ubuntu derivative optimized for the aspire one which freezes during install (linux4one) which tends to download bad.
[19:23] <prometheus77> kdenlive is not supported by ubuntu, is there any benefit for me to install the dbg version to send in a backtrace????????
[19:24] <karlos> hola
[19:25] <martin101> nibblyn: I don't want the nbr interface, I want to try the HP interface, that's why i'm installing standard ubuntu, btw I installed on a regular laptop with the same stick
[19:25] <unitedpotsmokers> i found a blog that story about new ubuntu? where to download?
[19:25] <zleap> www.ubuntu.com
[19:27] <Pirate_Hunter> The resolution in my xorg.conf if being ignored, instead im stuck with 800*600 res, how do I fix this?
[19:27] <martin101> the iso downloaded fine btw I md5sum it
[19:27] <pilgrim_> Hello everybody.. can someone please tell me what are the default permissions for /etc folder?
[19:27] <pilgrim_> I have a friend of mine who changed them and now he has all his system messed up
[19:28] <mauricio13> oi
[19:28] <martin101> pilgrim_: drwxr-xr-x 133 root root
[19:28] <pilgrim_> thanks a lot
[19:28] <martin101> ok
[19:29] <Pirate_Hunter> The resolution in my xorg.conf if being ignored, instead im stuck with 800*600 res, how do I fix this?
[19:29] <pilgrim_> martin, can you help me with one more thing... how can he change them back if he is runningnow from the live cd?
[19:30] <Nibblyn> martin101: if your iso is ok, already installed on a regular laptop... don't know then... i tried linux4one (based on hardy) but it is a nbr
[19:31] <martin101> mount the disk somewhere and as root or sudo chown it I guess
[19:31] <^hashbang^> Pirate_Hunter: what type of videocard do you have?
[19:31] <pilgrim_> Thank you Martin
[19:31] <martin101> or use nautilus
[19:31] <martin101> right click on properties but do as root
[19:32] <pilgrim_> @martin101 - ok, I will tell him to try
[19:33] <___Adam____> hello, I have a asus x59 laptop which i belive has a sis chipset, kubuntu dosnt reconise the ACPI, so i have no power managment any ideas?
[19:33] <prometheus77> kdenlive is not supported by ubuntu, is there any benefit for me to install the dbg version to send in a backtrace????????
[19:33] <bobek> hello
[19:33] <unkuth> I have missing panel programs that are and I can't access them to adjust properties, any help on this?
[19:33] <Pirate_Hunter> ^hashbang^: SiS 661FX everything has been setup but it just not picking up
[19:34] <unkuth> I have missing panel programs that are running and I can't access them to adjust properties, any help on this?
[19:34] <Bsims> I am having problems with the  mangle script for irssi  http://paste.ubuntu.com/114918/ any ideas
[19:35] <martin101> what would be  a safe way to stop the installation with corrupting the SSD drive as the SSD light & USB Flash light are still blinking but it will not go past 78%???
[19:35] <___Adam____> hello, I have a asus x59 laptop which i belive has a sis chipset, kubuntu dosnt reconise the ACPI, so i have no power managment any ideas?
[19:35] <fosco__> unkuth, can hardly understand, can you explain it better?
[19:36] <Pirate_Hunter> The resolution in my xorg.conf if being ignored, instead im stuck with 800*600 res, how do I fix this?
[19:37] <nikrud> me loves the patience of some people
[19:38] <^hashbang^> Pirate_Hunter: what type of videocard do you have?
[19:38] <unkuth> I have wall paper try on the panel and it had disappeared along with Compiz fusion which I can't get it to run to access its properties also.
[19:38] <^hashbang^> Pirate_Hunter: what type of videocard do you have?
[19:39] <joshp> has anyone else's sound suddenly stopped working?
[19:39] <mikeshollen> Why do wav files open in the movie player for me?
[19:40] <Pirate_Hunter> ^hashbang^: it is a SiS661FX cardor to be precise VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[19:40] <joshp> sound stopped working, rebooting does not fix!
[19:41] <^hashbang^> Pirate_Hunter: hmm, have you looked on the SiS site for linux driverS?
[19:41] <eoke> Probably old news but if you haven't already seen it take a look at gnome-do's docky (0.8).
[19:41] <Cody> How do you find your Gateway?
[19:42] <Pirate_Hunter> ^hashbang^: it is generic ubuntu would have them i just find it weird that xorg.conf is not pickign up resolution
[19:42] <unkuth> fosco did you get my last statement
[19:42] <mikeshollen> Also, why is it that my system sounds, which are .wav files, work sometimes, but the when i try to listen to wav files they stop working
[19:43] <martin101> Cody, Connection information, look for Default Route
[19:43] <eoke> Cody: the "route" command should tell you.
[19:44] <csanders> whats that python construct where you construct a list based on for ... statement
[19:45] <unop> csanders, /j #python
[19:46] <csanders> actually, /j##python
[19:46] <csanders> actually, /j ##python
[19:46] <Gerrit> Hi, my friend messed up the permissions of /etc/sudoers, how can he change it back? sudo won't work anymore due to wrong permissions.
[19:46] <Pirate_Hunter> I have set my own xorg, however it ignores resolution and now im stuck at 800*600 how do i fix this?
[19:47] <ViperBorg_TERM> Gerrit: Can he open a root terminal?
[19:47] <Gerrit> Let me ask.
[19:47] <ViperBorg_TERM> Gerrit: gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
[19:49] <nikrud> Pirate_Hunter, have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors?
[19:49] <gamma-k> Hi there! How am I to defrag my partitions? Is it not necessary, for I don't seem to find a way to do that?
[19:49] <Cody1> How do i find my Gateway?
[19:49] <mgun> Hi
[19:49] <Guest1831038> Cody1:route
[19:49] <mgun> huh?
[19:50] <nikrud> gamma-k, there is little to no reason for defragging ext2/3 partitions, they use a different algorithm than ntfs for writing
[19:50] <martin101> Cody1, right click on connection manager, connection information, look for default route
[19:50] <Cody1> Excuse me guest?
[19:50] <Cody1> Oh okay
[19:50] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: i am but i cant make sense of it
[19:50] <klinjavas> hello
[19:50] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: i Know there are warnings but how to fix them is different
[19:50] <gamma-k> nikrud: Ok thanks. What would be a proper situation to defrag them, if any?
[19:50] <nikrud> Pirate_Hunter, put a copy on paste.ubuntu.com. I got a few minutes (at work)
[19:51] <nikrud> gamma-k, I've never defragged in 9 years now :)
[19:51] <deany> gamma-k, I dont know what programs to trust, but the best way is just boot to recovery mode, cp -a your home to like /home.bak and format your /home then cp -a back again.. ive noticed my home is 15% non contiguous, which migh nott be a lot, but ive noticed a slight speed increase when loading gnome upon bootup...
[19:51] <gamma-k> Ok! Never mind then :) Thanks!
[19:51] <^hashbang^> lol defrag... what's that
[19:51] <nikrud> !defrag | gamma-k there's a reasonable description and discussion here
[19:51] <unkuth> I have wall paper try on the panel and it had disappeared along with Compiz fusion which I can't get either to run to access their properties also.  Both of these programs had disappeared from the panel.
[19:52] <Pirate_Hunter> nikrud: give me a sec will do it now
[19:53] <Cody1> Im having a problem connecting my xbox to my computer. Can anybody help me on this. Using the manual detection settings its not working.
[19:53] <tparcina> game, (photogramphic) memory - does any exist for Ubuntu?
[19:53] <Gerrit> I feel guilty. He did this on my advice, I thought it would enable him to edit it :(
[19:53] <martin101> Cody1, what do you want to achieve?
[19:53] <gamma-k> nikrud: Excellent. Thanks again!
[19:54] <Cody1> martin101: im under wireless on my laptop now. Running ubuntu and i am trying to connect my xbox to my wireless laptop. Its not connecting. Xbox>Network failed.
[19:54] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114929/ <--- xorg.conf / ----> (xorg log) http://pastebin.ca/1329297
[19:54] <nikrud> Gerrit, he can boot to the recovery console and fix perms there. chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[19:55] <Gerrit> nikrud: I see. Someone gave me a link to that.
[19:55] <martin101> what like an ad-hoc connection?
[19:55] <tparcina> memory game, is there any for ubuntu?
[19:55] <Cody1> martin101:  thats towards me?
[19:55] <nikrud> Gerrit, and use visudo to edit next time :)
[19:55] <martin101> Cody1, sorry?
[19:56] <Gerrit> nikrud: Someone else in the same chatroom told him... I bet he learnt not to listen to me anymore...
[19:56] <harrykar> hi all
[19:56] <Cody1> (02:55:25 PM) martin101: what like an ad-hoc connection?
[19:56] <Gerrit> Thanks anyway.
[19:56] <Pirate_Hunter>  can someoen take a look and help me please http://paste.ubuntu.com/114929/ <--- xorg.conf / ----> (xorg log) http://pastebin.ca/1329297
[19:56] <uvdfkhgvfdlgfe> hi
[19:56] <Pirate_Hunter> oops
[19:57] <Pirate_Hunter> nikrud: found anything
[19:57] <nikrud> Pirate_Hunter, your monitor is not providing the right sync values; lines 288/289
[19:57] <Pirate_Hunter> nikrud: thats because I dont know the hori.. vert.. of my monitor
[19:58] <sparr> KDE seems to only recognize mouse movement when computing the time to turn on the screen saver.  Keyboard input and even mouse button events have no effect.  What could have caused that, and how do I fix it?
[19:58] <Cody1> Can anyone help me connect my xbox to my network? Im under a wireless connection on my laptop trying to connect the xbox to the laptop.
[19:58] <runpain2_> it sure was tough but i  got this system to run the way i want it to yahoo
[19:58] <nikrud> Pirate_Hunter, google is your friend here; try    <exact model number> refresh
[19:58] <horza> Anybody know why ntfsprogs package is empty?
[19:58] <dan13l> can anyone help a newbie
[19:58] <_16aR_> Hello
[19:58] <Pirate_Hunter> nikrud: those vert&horiz are very wrong and yeah will search again
[19:59] <martin101> Cody1, what for? Are you trying to share files or something?
[19:59] <eoke> dan131: Ask and if some one can they will.
[19:59] <_16aR_> vlc sur ubuntu par defaut n'a pas le support de l'encodage en h264 ?
[19:59] <_16aR_> sorry
[19:59] <Cody1> martin101:  no connect to xbox live.
[19:59] <harrykar> I have aHercules 3D Prophet 4000XT 64 MB AGP Video Card. AFAIK is a "difficult" job find driver for that. Anyone know something new on ubuntu drivers for kyro GP?
[19:59] <_16aR_> does vlc on ubuntu doesn't have the h264 encoding support ?
[19:59] <martin101> So you have a wireless router, right?
[19:59] <Flaw> !sources
[20:00] <Cody1> Yes.
[20:00] <martin101> Doesn't the xbox have wireless on it?
[20:01] <Cody1> No you have to buy the adapter and im not spending 100 dollars when you can use the laptop as the router.
[20:01] <n0gear> a bit off the topic but whats a good mmmorpg for linux?
[20:01] <martin101> Are you trying to connect it via ethernet?
[20:01] <Cody1> martin101:  yes. But its not picking up.
[20:01] <dan13l> yes
[20:02] <martin101> try installing firestarter and setup internet connection sharing!
[20:02] <Fazavon> Cody: you have to have two network cards to user it as a router
[20:03] <Fazavon> and no one of them can not be wireless
[20:03] <Cody1> I've dont it before on windows.
[20:03] <eoke> Fazavon: Are you sure ?
[20:03] <Fazavon> yes
[20:03] <Fazavon> you have to have one In and one Out
[20:03] <Fazavon> that makes two
[20:03] <martin101> On windows Vista you can bridge a wireless connection to an ethernet connection, I think firestarter in linux allows this too
[20:03] <eoke> Fazavon: Sorry no I meant about one not being a wireless one.
[20:04] <eoke> Fazavon: I only ask as I'm doing exactly that.
[20:04] <pantsman> which package do I need to install to use mail command?
[20:04] <Cody1> Fazavon:  i've done it before. maybe its not put into terms correctly.
[20:04] <Fazavon> well if  you are going to make a Ad-Hock then yeah Wireless would work
[20:04] <dan13l> i have a problem with wireless card which i have read i need NDISWRAPPER to use the problem is i dont have anyother way to connect that computer to the internet. how could i install it from a flash drive ?
[20:05] <Cody1> Wireless connection to laptop ethernet connection to xbox.
[20:05] <kshadow> Anyone able to help me figure out why my external hard drive isn't working?
[20:05] <|TJH|> Cody: if wireless router has lan ports, why not connect xbox directly into wireless router?
[20:05] <eoke> I think cody maybe shooting for  XBOX -- eth0:Ubuntu:wifi0 -- wifi:router
[20:06] <martin101> enable connection in firestarter - sudo apt-get install firestarter then sudo firestarter
[20:06] <Tobias2200> i'm booting from a burnt 8.10 iso, and i get a "I/O Error: Error reading boot CD." I've burnt the CD the 2nd time now, and it's still the same error :O
[20:06] <kshadow> It worked fine in gentoo, but when I plug it in, turn it on, and type lsusb, lsusb halts.
[20:06] <martin101> *enable connection sharing
[20:06] <kshadow> If I unplug it after lsusb, eventually lsusb finishes. And fdisk -l isn't showing it either.
[20:07] <Flaw> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[20:07] <dan13l> please reply directly too me cause there are  too many convos i need to install ndiswrapper but that computer cannot connect to teh internet
[20:07] <Flaw> There are things in /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:07] <Flaw> Why is it showing me that message?
[20:07] <dan13l> which is why   i need d it
[20:07] <martin101> cody1, alternatively read this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632062
[20:08] <Pirate_Hunter> does anyone know a site that lists monitor refresh rates?
[20:08] <kshadow> Pirate_Hunter: Your vendor's website.
[20:08] <pantsman> what package do I need to install to send mail?
[20:08] <martin101> pantsman: what email?
[20:09] <Fazavon> wait doesnt Mega-Shafts XFag 360 have a wireless option?
[20:09] <eoke> pantsman: try mailutils
[20:09] <Pirate_Hunter> kshadow: other than that
 wait doesnt Mega-Shafts XFag 360 have a wireless option?
[20:09] <true\false> That was erm ..
[20:09] <eoke> Pirate_Hunter: What monitor do you have ?
[20:09] <kshadow> Pirate_Hunter: Not that I know of.
[20:10] <pantsman> eoke: "E: Package mailutils has no installation candidate"
[20:10] <dan13l> help this should be an eeeasy one
[20:10] <thiebaude> pantsman, what are you trying to install?
[20:10] <eoke> dan131: Move it to the router and use an ethernet connection.
[20:11] <Tobias2200> aw. still the same error. "I/O Error: Error reading boot CD." on bootup..what could be wrong here?
[20:11] <pantsman> thiebaude: sendmail
[20:11] <martin101> pantsman: try sendmail
[20:11] <pantsman> martin101: no installation candidate, referred to by another package, etc
[20:11] <martin101> sudo apt-get install sendmail
[20:11] <Pirate_Hunter> eoke, kshadow: relisys tl766
[20:11] <blizzle> Tobias2200, What could be wrong is a corrupt cd, or a faulty cd-rom drive.
[20:11] <pantsman> I have tried that
[20:11] <martin101> what version are you on?
[20:11] <pantsman> 8.04
[20:12] <martin101> me, it works here!
[20:12] <martin101> me to
[20:12] <Tobias2200> blizzle: this is the second CD..the first one had the same mistake, and the cd-rom drive should actually be fine, hang on, i'll try another drive
[20:12] <ImSad> Does anyone know how to get steam games to work on ubuntu? ie: Counterstrike:source, Portal, Half-life 2 etc.
[20:12] <giuseppe_> ciao
[20:12] <Pirate_Hunter> how would i put this in xorg.conf under horiz... & vert... Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 80 kHz (or is this completely wrong)
[20:12] <Guest10851> hey anyone here play wow? i need some help
[20:12] <slacker_nl> ImSad: wine
[20:12] <giuseppe_> !list
[20:12] <ImSad> I get them to start, but I make it to menu then the screen goes black.
[20:12] <blizzle> ImSad, Try Cedega. That's your best bet.
[20:12] <giuseppe_> !list
[20:13] <blizzle> giuseppe_, Once is enough.
[20:13] <slacker_nl> ImSad: the appdb of wine usually also tells you how to install them so you can play them
[20:13] <ImSad> lol Fazavon didn't like me.
[20:14] <wolter> can someone recommend me an app to batch convert image files?
[20:14] <wolter> preferable for nautilus (but not the nautilus-image-converter, for it just rotates and resizes images)
[20:14] <eoke> Guest10851: Have you tried the ubuntu wow guide?
[20:14] <quentusrex> How do I find out which version of ubuntu I'm running???
[20:14] <quentusrex> uname -a doesn't tell me
[20:14] <Agion> hi, is it possible to get "flip over desktops edge by moving mouse" on gnome without compiz?
[20:14] <martin101> imagemagick
[20:15] <ezerhoden> lsb_release -a
[20:15] <ezerhoden> quentusrex: ^^
[20:15] <eoke> quentusrex: cat /etc/issue
[20:15] <^hashbang^> wolter: try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-403147.html
[20:15] <Pythack> Salut
[20:15] <wolter> thanks hashbang
[20:15] <martin101>  cat /etc/lsb-release
[20:15] <^hashbang^> wolter: anytime
[20:16] <ezerhoden> many ways to skin a cat
[20:16] <Neku> hi can anyone help to install open vpn on my ubuntu so i can watch hulu.com videos outside usa
[20:16] <Tekno> ;E
[20:17] <Neku> hi can anyone help to install open vpn on my ubuntu so i can watch hulu.com videos outside usa
[20:17] <cdavis> Can someone tell me where the "Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer" menu is located on the livecd? I want to remove the Install option for a project I am working on.
[20:17] <guntbert> !repeat | Neku
[20:17] <unitedpotsmokers> i already download n setup java from terminal, how to test it is working or not?
[20:17] <Tobias2200> blizzle: same error with another drive :-/ and it's the second CD. burnt the first one with maximum speed, and this one with 8x.
[20:18] <mikeconcepts> I am unable to scan but can print with a HP Officejet 1175CSE, any help out there? I installed hplip-2.8.12 but can't scan, also installed libsane-exras but don't know what to do in the /etc/same.dll/dll.conf file
[20:18] <uEddy> ciao gente, mi sapete dire come posso individuare dove viene montata una scheda sd?
[20:18] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Did you do a crc check on the disc, assuming it's an Ubuntu iso?
[20:18] <LargeHardonColli> sup niggers, I need someone here who has expertees in the field of video drivers
[20:18] <LargeHardonColli> Preferably ATI
[20:19] <Tobias2200> blizzle: how do i do that? :)
[20:19] <blizzle> LargeHardonColli, You won't get any help addressing people like that.
[20:19] <guntbert> !md5sum | Tobias2200
[20:19] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Boot off the cd, there's a cd check in the menu.. should be anyways, assuming you have the desktop version.
[20:19] <sasha_> hello
[20:20] <SeanTater> Networkmanager is using 903MB/697MB virt/res memory.. Is it safe to kill it? If I do, how do I start it again?
[20:20] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Or what guntbert referenced.
[20:20] <Tobias2200> yes i have the desktop version. i'll check the cd and the md5sum
[20:20] <^goku^> sera
[20:21] <^goku^> !listùù
[20:21] <^goku^> !list
[20:21] <guntbert> !it | ^goku^
[20:21] <martin101> has anyone tried the HP UI for netbooks in ubuntu yet?
[20:21] <ImSad> How do i get the "/home/Computername/.wine is not owned by you" to stop?
[20:22] <blizzle> ImSad, man chown
[20:22] <Pythack> hey
[20:22] <martin101> sudo chown username /home/Computername/.wine
[20:22] <patryk_> hi!
[20:22] <Tobias2200> blizzle: when i do the check of the cd, i get the same error like trying to install :O
[20:23] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Oh dear, sounds like you need to go the md5checksum route then :/
[20:23] <ImSad> martin101: it didn't work.
[20:23] <Tobias2200> yep. i'm looking for the "original" md5sum atm
[20:23] <Tobias2200> there it is
[20:23] <martin101> ImSad: what did it say?
[20:24] <ImSad> nothing.
[20:24] <Tobias2200> :O so the md5sums are the same.
[20:24] <pantsman> hmm I just realised my sources.list has.... just "main" packages
[20:24] <pantsman> probably why I can hardly install anything!
[20:24] <Pythack> Ok
[20:24] <Tobias2200> blizzle: the md5sums are the same. what am i doing wrong here :S
[20:25] <ImSad> I retried what I was trying to do with wine, and it said again that I don't own wine
[20:25] <martin101> pantsman: yeah that probably why
[20:25] <guntbert> pantsman: system/administration/software sources
[20:25] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Sounds like your drive might be on the fritz.
[20:25] <Tobias2200> but i already tried it with another drive!
[20:25] <kshadow> Hooray! Fixed my ext hard drive problem.
[20:26] <tatters> ?
[20:26] <penela> Im getting set to format and reinstall my system (8.10) I was figuring on creating /, /home, /var , swap.  How much space for /var?  I noticed that is where my vm is and it is 16GB.  Should I move it somewhere else or is that fine?
[20:26] <martin101> ImSad: I don't then, maybe when you said /home/ComputerName you meant /home/username
[20:26] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Um, or possibly your drives don't like your cd-rs..
[20:26] <Tobias2200> blizzle: could be the drive with which i am burning the cd :S could i compare the burnt cd somehow?
[20:26] <Tobias2200> the md5sum
[20:26] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Could be that, sure.
[20:26] <xbmc> i've followed these directions to setup my video http://intellinuxgraphics.org/install.html
[20:26] <mikeconcepts> Calling all scanner experts: I can't  scan but can print with a HP Officejet 1175CSE - installed hplip-2.8.12 and libsane-exras already
[20:26] <ImSad> martin101: the computer name and the username are the same
[20:27] <xbmc> how do I know its working correctly?
[20:27] <Tobias2200> blizzle: is there a way to check the burnt cd?
[20:27] <blizzle> Tobias2200, I'm fresh out of ideas, short of a) finding different cd-rs to burn to and.or burning the iso with another drive (at slowest speed).
[20:27] <guntbert> Tobias2200: yes, its a menu item of the live CD
[20:27] <yookter> will anyone help me to enable onionskin on GIMP+GAP?
[20:27] <xbmc> xbmc@xbmc01:~$ glxinfo
[20:27] <xbmc> name of display: :0.0
[20:27] <xbmc> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[20:28] <something132> hey
[20:28] <martin101> ImSad: do ls -la | grep wine and tell me what is says!
[20:28] <something132> i have a problem
[20:28] <Pirate_Hunter> nikrud: got it working now thank you
[20:28] <something132> it just suddenly logged me off
[20:28] <samu> hallo
[20:28] <martin101> ImSad: within your home directory
[20:28] <something132> i did nothing
[20:28] <something132> logged me off
[20:28] <Tobias2200> guntbert: yes but when i run the CD Check of the menu it gives the same i/o error ;)
[20:28] <guntbert> !enter | something132
[20:29] <something132> i got to go
[20:29] <ImSad> Martin101: I get no such file or directory.
[20:29] <ImSad> I'm a complete newb, I'm sorry.
[20:29] <martin101> ImSad: while in your home directory?
[20:30] <martin101> ImSad: cd ~/ - the ls -la | grep wine
[20:30] <guntbert> Tobias2200: oh..., well you *could* create a new iso image of your cd, and md5sum that, but ....
[20:30] <Tobias2200> guntbert:  :D i'll make the CD ide master, maybe that does something =)
[20:30] <Tobias2200> *drive
[20:30] <Manix1> can I get some help with my video driver issue?
[20:31] <marius__> ppl, how do I turn this into a shell script?
[20:31] <marius__> " LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype &"
[20:31] <Manix1> I just got a message that said "failed to load Nvidia" on startup and I had to load ubuntu low-graphic mode to even get into here
[20:32] <guntbert> Tobias2200: I wouldn't expect success from rejumpering
[20:32] <tatters> If I run a command  in a shell on machine A then go to a remote machine and ssh into box A, how can I view the previously opened shell on box A ?
[20:33] <nDuff> tatters, ideally, start GNU screen before starting the command
[20:33] <guntbert> tatters: have a look at screen, it allows to preserve a session and reopen it later
[20:33] <Manix1> !video
[20:33] <Manix1> !graphics
[20:34] <Manix1> !help
[20:34] <slusk88> I cant seem to get my powermizer past level 1 Nvidia 9600m gt card and 177.82 drivers. anyone know what the problem might be?
[20:34] <slusk88> ubuntu 8.10
[20:34] <Manix1> !commands
[20:34] <rakudave> marius__: just paste it into a textfile and check the "executable" box in preferences
[20:35] <nDuff> tatters, if it's already too late to run screen, there's a tool called retty you might try.
[20:35] <ali__> hi can anyone help to install open vpn on my ubuntu so i can watch hulu.com videos outside usa
[20:35] <Manix1> anyone know a possible solution for installing drivers for my Nvidia GTX 280
[20:35] <MrJuanBond> Im having issues instaling Ubuntu on my iMac PowerPC and the two options on the install page of the website arent working.  Anyone help?
[20:35] <Tobias2200> blizzle: should i burn the CD, Disc-At-Once or Track-At-Once?
[20:36] <blizzle> ali__, If you need help, you might consider hamachi instead.
[20:36] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Disc-at-once.
[20:36] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Be sure to close the session.
[20:36] <Tobias2200> blizzle: okay. i'll try to burn on another pc.
[20:37] <ali__> blizzle : whts hamachi. is it easy to set up?
[20:37] <MrJuanBond> Anyone be able to help me with the install on an iMac PowerPC?
[20:38] <blizzle> ali__, It's a vpn setup, cross platform, and yes, very easy to configure. You'd probably want to install hamachi and then configure it with ghamachi. http://hamachi.cc
[20:38] <ali__> blizzle : so i cud watch hulu videos with it installed?
[20:39] <blizzle> ali__, Depends.. if you have someone in the states that's happy to proxy your traffic, then sure.
[20:39] <ali__> blizzle : no...
[20:39] <MrJuanBond> blizzle, do you know anything about install Ubuntu on PowerPC?
[20:39] <blizzle> ali__, Alternatively, you might just look for a web proxy hosted in the us, and use that instead.
[20:39] <scunizi> What's the difference between unetbootin and System>Admin>Create a USB Startup Disk?
[20:39] <Guest13951> !pastebin | Guest13951
[20:39] <Luuxx> guys i need a tut, how to create themes
[20:39] <blizzle> MrJuanBond, I think PPC support ended with 7.10
[20:39] <ali__> blizzle : do u have any suggestions for one?
[20:39] <Luuxx> i cant find it on gnome-look.org
[20:40] <blizzle> ali__, google for phproxy us
[20:40] <Manix1> bizzle: can you help me with Nvidia GTX 280 driver installation?
[20:40] <kshadow> Luuxx: How to greate themes for what?
[20:40] <MrJuanBond> blizzle, well the issue i'm running into with the install, is that the cd-rom cant be loaded from the linux installer
[20:40] <blizzle> Manix1, Try installing Envy-ng
[20:40] <Luuxx> kshadow, Gnome (Ubuntu) ((Interpid)) :)
[20:40] <Manix1> I did
[20:40] <true\false> I'm a new unix/linux/ubuntu user ... But I want it on my netbook, should I be aiming for the netbook remix, or just the normal ubuntu?
[20:40] <Frasier> Hi, I was wondering if someone has some suggestions to try. I just received a new SSD drive: a Intel X25-M, but the Ubuntu installer does not see the drive during installation. "fdisk -l" and "lshw -class disk" both do not show the drive. When I boot back to my old drive running 8.04, the drive is recognized.
[20:41] <MrJuanBond> And they said to try a network install and I tried doing that but bootp and dhcp3 wont work.
[20:41] <Manix1> is it an app or just a driver pack?
[20:41] <ali__> blizzle : thank you
[20:41] <kshadow> Luuxx: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials
[20:41] <Luuxx> kshadow, thanks a bounch
[20:41] <Luuxx> bb
[20:41] <Manix1> bizzle: is Envy an app or just a driver pack?
[20:41] <scunizi> Frasier: In the first screen on the live cd hit F6 and add "pci=nomsi" to the kernel line and see if that makes a difference
[20:42] <nawfaldesa> hi, can you send me 10dollars on my LibertyReserve?
[20:42] <guntbert> !ot | nawfaldesa
[20:42] <blizzle> Manix1, There's a front end for it, check synaptic and search for nvidia
[20:43] <MrJuanBond> What other Linux support iMac PowerPC?
[20:43] <blizzle> MrJuanBond, Debian, YellowDog.. there are quite a few.. possibly OpenSuse.
[20:43] <Frasier> Thanks scunizi. I'll go try that now (and probably open irc from another pc, so I don't have to disconnect :P)
[20:44] <MrJuanBond> blizzle, thank you
[20:44] <rakudave> MrJuanBond: make sure you have the PowerPC variant of Ubuntu, otherwise it won't work
[20:44] <Manix1> bizzle: sorry I'm a little new what do you mean front end?
[20:44] <wolter> is sh the same as bash?
[20:44] <Pirate_Hunter> just tried to mount my windows partition and this is what I got http://pastebin.ca/1329337, anyone know how to fix this?
[20:44] <blizzle> Manix1, Front end, gui, graphical interface..
[20:44] <MrJuanBond> rakudave, i did download the instal version for powerpc
[20:44] <giuseppe_> ciao a tutti
[20:45] <MrJuanBond> rakudave, i am running into issues with the cd-rom in the Ubuntu Installer.
[20:45] <ravious> I'm having an issue with 8.10 server running samba. I've got a usb hard drive formated ext3 connected to the server as sdb1, randomly the samba clients will display an empty folder, and when checking on the server find that the usb drive has changed from sdb1 to sdc1.. and is no longer mounted. anyone have any ideas on why this would be happening?
[20:45] <rakudave> MrJuanBond: ok, wasn't sure
[20:45] <MrJuanBond> rakudave, i am running into issues with the cd-rom in the Ubuntu Installer.**
[20:45] <usser> wolter, scripts written for sh work bash but not the other way around, sh is like a standard bash extends it
[20:45] <giuseppe_> !list
[20:45] <MrJuanBond> rakudave, So I tried doing it via network, but that inst working either
[20:46] <rakudave> MrJuanBond: USB?
[20:46] <guntbert> !it | giuseppe_
[20:46] <MrJuanBond> rakudave, Havent looked at that option yet
[20:46] <wolter> usser, do you know shell scripting? I need some simple help..
[20:46] <rakudave> MrJuanBond: Ibex comes with a live-usb creator, so you just need another pc to set it up
[20:46] <Cpudan80> Hey guys
[20:47] <Anon8283> Can someone please pm me
[20:47] <MrJuanBond> rakudave, Can I talk to you in PM?
[20:47] <Anon8283> i am in desperate need of help
[20:47] <rakudave> sure
[20:47] <Cpudan80> I got a couple of problems with my Ubuntu install I was hoping you could help me with -- here goes
[20:47] <Anon8283> to install ubuntu
[20:47] <slusk88> i cant seem to get powermizer go past level 1 Nvidia 9600m GT card 177.82 drivers And ubuntu 8.10 anyone knows how to solve this? thanks!
[20:47] <juls_> anyboyd
[20:47] <juls_> Any one
[20:47] <guntbert> wolter: you might have better success in #bash
[20:47] <wolter> guntbert, is there no sh channel?
[20:47] <Anon8283> i install ubuntu and install goes great, i reboot and get error 21
[20:47] <Anon8283> i cant even get into grub
[20:48] <Manix1> bizzle: I don't see it.....
[20:48] <Anon8283> it says grub 1.5 loading
[20:48] <Pirate_Hunter> just tried to mount my windows partition and this is what I got http://pastebin.ca/1329337, anyone know how to fix this?
[20:48] <Anon8283> and then error 21
[20:48] <Cpudan80> 1) I turned out the compositing effects for GNOME and now I get a slight sound crack (pause) when playing songs in rhythmbox 2) When I suspend my laptop, I get no wifi on wakeup (it tries to associate but fails)
[20:48] <carlitos__> It happens only when certain USB mass storage devices AND certain USB controllers are combined. A RockChip USB MP3 player and the Centrino Duo causes this to happen, while a Sandisk MP3 player (or a no-name external hard drive) and the same USB chipset does not cause the problem.
[20:48] <Anon8283> i then tried supergrub, and get error 15 when trying to fix it
[20:48] <guntbert> wolter: not that I know of, but you can try anyway :)
[20:48] <carlitos__> USB mass storage stops working after a while
[20:48] <carlitos__> my ubuntu   do not  recotnize
[20:48] <Anon8283> can anyone help me?
[20:49] <Anon8283> i really want to dual boot ubuntu and xp
[20:49] <harrykar> i repropose it.I have aHercules 3D Prophet 4000XT 64 MB AGP Video Card. AFAIK is a "difficult" job find driver for that. Anyone know something new on ubuntu drivers for kyro GP?
[20:49] <blizzle> Manix1, It's blizzle.. try typing blizz <tab> And you want envyng-qt
[20:50] <Anon8283> Can someone plz help a unbuntu n00b
[20:50] <Anon8283> here
[20:50] <wolter> guntbert, no problem, I saw that in the bash channel they ask you if you need help with sh instead of bash
[20:50] <Anon8283> i cant boot to ubuntu
[20:50] <Anon8283> at all
[20:50] <ygz> hello
[20:50] <Manix1> blizzle: sorry I'm in low graphic mode right now because ubuntu wont load properly. I can barely read the chat
[20:50] <ygz> ls
[20:50] <guntbert> wolter: cu :)
[20:51] <kurrata> hi, i downloaded joy2key(binds gamepad/joytsick events to keyboard) program from Synaptic and when i launch it it says "Error opening /dev/js0!" and asks if i have joystick support in kernel. I can use my gamepad in pSX(playstation emulator) so i guess i have support in kernel for it. Any ideas what i could do?
[20:51] <mvsseller> how we connect on undernet
[20:51] <Anon8283> PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP A BROTHA OUT?
[20:51] <Anon8283> I KEEP GETTING ERROR 21
[20:51] <guntbert> !shout | Anon8283
[20:51] <Anon8283> TRYING TO DUAL BOOT XP AND UBUNTU
[20:51] <Cpudan80> !ops | Anon8283
[20:51] <carlitos__> any help   about  this ? USB mass storage stops working after a while, A RockChip USB MP3
[20:51] <mvsseller> i need to finde undernet server
[20:52] <^hashbang^> Pirate_hunter: try sudo apt-get install testdisk
[20:52] <^hashbang^> sudo testdisk
[20:52] <jpds> Anon8283: Please stop the cpa.s
[20:52] <^hashbang^> Pirate_hunter: After starting testdisk, choose "No log", choose the correct HDD and "Proceed", choose "Intel", choose "Advanced", select the Windows partition, choose "Boot", then choose "Rebuild BS"; if testdisk gives you a warning that the "Extrapolated boot sector and current boot sector are different", then choose "Write". If you do the "Rebuild BS" with testdisk, then try again:
[20:52] <s0l1dsnak3123> hey there, I need some help - my ubuntu install is beeping constantly from the motherboard ever since it booted up. This has only started happening after a normal update
[20:52] <martin101> can some offer me some advice, what the best way to do a complete format?
[20:52] <Manix1> wow why are the package downloads so slow
[20:52] <Anon8283> and i have tried everything
[20:53] <s0l1dsnak3123> my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m19d48f34
[20:53] <Manix1> on a 10mb connection and I download packages at 40KB/s
[20:53] <compuwiz> I know its old, but how do I get a mac g3 to boot ubuntu? It installed fine, but I get the unable to find os icon on boot.
[20:53] <Anon8283> ok so can no one help me out?
[20:53] <Until_It_Sleeps> Are there any programs for Ubuntu that can convert media files, like say WMA to MP3 and vice versa?
[20:53] <^hashbang^> what's up Anon8283
[20:53] <blizzle> Manix1, No worries, it's just hard to see your responses when my name's not highlighted.
[20:54] <Pirate_Hunter> ^hashbang^: isnt there anotherway where i can follow what is happening instead of some gui giving me options
[20:54] <martin101> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/zero - will that completely erase a drive properly?
[20:54] <carlitos__> any help   about  this ? USB mass storage stops working after a while, A RockChip USB MP3
[20:54] <^hashbang^> Pirate_Hunter: not that I know of
[20:54] <Until_It_Sleeps> !media
[20:54] <djalmafilho> hey, how I do to change style for notification in Ubuntu?
[20:54] <Manix1> blizzle: is there a faster way to download this? it's going between 20-40kb/s
[20:54] <Until_It_Sleeps> !media converters
[20:54] <Until_It_Sleeps> :(
[20:55] <^hashbang^> Pirate_Hunter: you could try booting back into windows and running chkdsk make sure the disk is clean then reboot into linux and try mounting again
[20:55] <Frasier> Any suggestions: Intel X25-M is not detected during install. "fdisk -l" and "lshw -class disk" do not list it. When booting my old Ubuntu 8.04 on another drive, the X25-M is visible and usable. I tried pci=nomsi for the installation with the same results. Other drives on the same controller are visible during installation. I am trying to install 8.10 x64 and already have 8.04 x64
[20:55] <Cody> martin101:  I installed firefox how do i bridge connections?
[20:55] <Pirate_Hunter> ^hashbang^: might try that
[20:55] <martin101> Cody, what do you mean firefox, I said firestarter!
[20:55] <s0l1dsnak3123> hey there, I need some help - my ubuntu install is beeping constantly from the motherboard ever since it booted up. This has only started happening after a normal update. My dmesg is here: http://pastebin.com/m19d48f34
[20:55] <Cody> Sorry i installed firestarter lol.
[20:55] <Cody> How do i bridge them.
[20:55] <compuwiz> how do I get a mac g3 to boot ubuntu? It installed fine, but I get the unable to find os icon on boot.
[20:56] <Guest16417> why cant i access my compiz settings
[20:56] <Until_It_Sleeps> s0l1dsnak3123: That happens to me when somebody says my name in Chatzilla
[20:56] <blizzle> Manix1, Um, what are you downloading again, and from where? If it's an official repository, you might want to open Synaptic and select repositories, and do a test for the fastest one.
[20:56] <Until_It_Sleeps> s0l1dsnak3123: And whenever I shut down.
[20:56] <Cody> Guest16417:  Where are you trying?
[20:56] <martin101> run it and and go through the wizard and select share internet connection
[20:56] <Anon8283> hello?>
[20:56] <Anon8283> can someone help to guide me thru some grub and supergrub errors
[20:57] <Guest16417> im trying to acces compiz settings through preferences but i cant find it
[20:57] <nDuff> Anon8283, what's going on?
[20:57] <ravious> anyone have any advice on how to keep a usb hard drive from spindown disconnecting?
[20:57] <s0l1dsnak3123> Until_It_sleeps: by you messaging me and making xchat execute a beep - it has stopped... I believe this is to do with the bootup because I don't get the usplash anymore - only the textual bootup
[20:57] <Cody> Guest16417:  Have you installed Compiz Fusion?
[20:57] <Until_It_Sleeps> !help Are there any programs for Ubuntu that can convert media files, like say WMA to MP3 and vice versa?
[20:58] <guba> hello, everybody! I am new here...
[20:58] <kjell> welcome
[20:58] <Guest16417> yes i have and have installed the emerald theme from diehard and i still cannot find it im new to linux so
[20:58] <djalmafilho> Notification preferences , how I do?
[20:58] <^hashbang^> Anon8283: try http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm
[20:58] <s0l1dsnak3123> Until_It_Sleeps - have you tried mencoder ^_^
[20:58] <s0l1dsnak3123> Until_It_Sleeps - or soundkonverter, which i hear is also good
[20:58] <nDuff> Until_It_Sleeps, the gstreamer framework will do that, but you'll probably want to find a GUI frontend for it.
[20:59] <^hashbang^> Anon8283: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:59] <s0l1dsnak3123> Until_It_sleeps: by you messaging me and making xchat execute a beep - it has stopped... I believe this is to do with the bootup because I don't get the usplash anymore - only the textual bootup
[20:59] <Anon8283> hey i have tried those links
[20:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> um... s0l1dsnak3123, you already said that
[20:59] <Anon8283> i need you to understand my problems first
[20:59] <s0l1dsnak3123> oops lol
[20:59] <slusk88> Anyone know how to get powermizer performance past level 1 Using a 9600M GT nvidia card with 177.82 drivers ubuntu 8.10
[20:59] <Anon8283> i am trying to dual boot...i installed ubuntu flawlessly
[20:59] <Cody> Guest16417: Right click on the panel. Hit edit menus and go to System and maybe you have to enable it to be available.
[20:59] <s0l1dsnak3123> Until_It_Sleeps - sorry about that :P
[20:59] <Anon8283> i keep getting error 21
[20:59] <Anon8283> i can not even get into grub
[20:59] <Guest16417> ok ill try that
[20:59] <Anon8283> on boot up it just goes to error 21
[21:00] <mustangg> folks.      Is there a difference between "native" linux software raid, and using fakeraid a-la Intel7/8/9 onboards..?
[21:00] <^hashbang^> Anon8283: do you have a different windows drive in the system along with the drive you installed ubuntu on?
[21:00] <Anon8283> and when i try supergrub, and try to repair the mbr it just goes to error 15
[21:00] <Anon8283> no, i only have 1 hdd
[21:00] <Pirate_Hunter> just tried to mount my windows partition and this is what I got http://pastebin.ca/1329337 anyone know how to fix this?
[21:00] <Guest16417> still cant find it
[21:00] <Anon8283> windows is main os, on main parition
[21:01] <Cody> Anon8283:  Did you check the hashes on the .iso?
[21:01] <Anon8283> what does that mean?
[21:01] <Manix1> blizzle: much better thank you :)
[21:01] <Anon8283> i downloaded straight from the main site and burned it to a disc
[21:01] <nDuff> Anon8283, making sure that the files weren't corrupted in download
[21:01] <^hashbang^> Anon8283: ok so you installed a fresh copy of ubuntu on a blank hardrive and can't boot? is this correct? because you mentioned dual boot before..
[21:01] <Anon8283> oh, no i did not try that. is that commen?
[21:01] <Guest16417> cody: i still cant find it
[21:01] <Cody> Anon8283:  downloading from the site you still use a mirror.
[21:02] <Cody> So it can still be possibly corrupted.
[21:02] <nDuff> Anon8283, depends; I haven't had those problems much recently, but used to in an old house with a different ISP.
[21:02] <Anon8283> no i installed ubuntu on a system already with xp
[21:02] <Anon8283> ahh i see
[21:02] <nDuff> Anon8283, another thing -- when booting supergrub, what kind of media are you starting it from?
[21:02] <nDuff> Anon8283, CD-ROM?
[21:02] <Anon8283> the installation goes flawless...i just keep getting errors
[21:02] <Anon8283> yes, i boot from cdrom
[21:02] <Anon8283> supergrub loads fine, but i just keep getting error 15
[21:03] <blizzle> Anon8283, try apt-get install ntfs-config and take it from there, perhaps.
[21:03] <Cody> Guest16417:  How did you install Compiz Fusion?
[21:03] <nDuff> Anon8283, just "Error 15" isn't very informative; what's the context for that error?
[21:03] <Guest16417> using synaptic
[21:03] <nDuff> Anon8283, are there any lines before it?
[21:03] <Anon8283> error 15 is what i get when i try to fix the mbr
[21:03] <Anon8283> using all of the options in supergrub to repair it and get grub to boot right
[21:03] <^hashbang^> Anon8283: how are you trying to "fix" the mbr?
[21:03] <skybound> martin101: i guess you mixed if= and of=; otherwise overwriting the raw dev with zeroes goes pretty far. see: magnetic force microscopy
[21:03] <nDuff> Anon8283, is "error 15" the *only* thing it prints, nothing else at all?
[21:03] <Anon8283> i am using supergrub
[21:04] <Anon8283> no there is more, it is telling me it cant find the files
[21:04] <Manix1> blizzle: I tried installing the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website but during installation it said something about Xen kernal not being supported or something... what does that mean?
[21:04] <Anon8283> what could i be doing wrong?
[21:04] <nDuff> Anon8283, could you please type out to a pastebin everything it prints? "Error 15" usually *means* that it can't find a file, but without you telling us more, we don't know what file it's looking for.
[21:05] <AngryElf> does openoffice 3.0 support MSs' new docx pptx etc formats?
[21:05] <Anon8283> i see
[21:05] <Guest16417> cody i used synaptic
[21:05] <Anon8283> well
[21:05] <Anon8283> thats not really my main problem
[21:05] <Anon8283> the error 15
[21:05] <Anon8283> my main problem is error 21
[21:05] <FloodBot3> Anon8283: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:05] <Anon8283> after i install ubuntu, i get error 21 on reboot
[21:05] <Anon8283> i do not get the grub menu, i get nothing. it is quite annoying
[21:06] <Anon8283> and i know linux is in there and installed right because when i boot to live cd, i can see it installed on the partition
[21:06] <TheComrade> when I edit /etc/group, what needs to be done to make it active?  I am a member of a group that has write permissions but I cannot write.
[21:06] <bthornton> I'm running 32-bit Hardy and can't start X due to what appears to be an nVidia driver problem; the kernel module is not the correct version. Is there a standard way to correct this, or do I need to manually change drivers?
[21:06] <blizzle> Manix1, Xen is a hypervisor. How that pertains to nvidia's drivers I know not :/
[21:06] <skybound> Anon8283: have you tried something like this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/grub-error-21-after-full-install-to-usb-hard-drive/
[21:07] <nDuff> Anon8283, well -- if you can get into supergrub, you should be able to use it to boot the installed operating system
[21:07] <Anon8283> i have not tried that because i am not installing on a usb drive
[21:07] <Aisri> is there someone who can help me with something?
[21:07] <Anon8283> how can i get into an installed OS using supergrub then?
[21:07] <nickUK`> Hello, How do i get to do a test to see if 3d acceleration is working?
[21:07] <nDuff> Anon8283, ...but the details depend on how you did the partitioning.
[21:07] <nDuff> Aisri, we don't know if we can help you until you ask your question
[21:07] <Anon8283> i used guided paritioning
[21:08] <Anon8283> during the ubuntu install
[21:08] <blizzle> nickUK`, Install compiz.
[21:08] <Manix1> blizzle: well installed the recommended driver... wish me luck time for a reboot
[21:08] <Aisri> I need some help. When I boot up my system there's no option to boot into XP
[21:08] <blizzle> Manix1, Bonne chance!
[21:08] <Anon8283> i moved the slider over to give ubuntu like 20% of the partition my hard drive
[21:08] <Frasier> Any suggestions: Intel X25-M is not detected during install. "fdisk -l" and "lshw -class disk" do not list it. When booting my old Ubuntu 8.04 on another drive, the X25-M is visible and usable. I tried pci=nomsi for the installation with the same results. Other drives on the same controller are visible during installation. I am trying to install 8.10 x64 and already have 8.04 x64. I just tried booting from an old 6.06 install disk, and that
[21:08] <nDuff> Aisri, /boot/grub/grub.conf is where that menu is configured
[21:08] <Cody> Anon8283:  here you go. http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Best/hash-checksums.html to download a hash checksum program and after that to check the hash go to. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:09] <Aisri> how can I get there? I am extremely new to ubuntu. Took me 30 minutes to figure out how to get here >.>
[21:09] <skybound> Anon8283: usb or not shouldn't make a difference in this case
[21:09] <Anon8283> well either way, i have tried everything
[21:09] <uid01> Aisri:this is irc, not ubuntu =D
[21:09] <adub> i just ran gparted on this drive and its showing 70.1 gb of the drive already used its a 1.5 tb hard drive i havent put anything on the drive though??
[21:09] <Aisri> I know
[21:09] <adub> someone please help
[21:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Anon8283: Error 21 means that grub has the wrong location configured for which partition to find the /boot/grub/ file-system. From the supergrub disk if you're running the GRUB command-line, you can use "find /grub/stage2" to locate it, and the use "setup (hd0) xxxx" where xxxx is the result of the find operation (usually something like (hd0,2) )
[21:10] <Aisri> It just took me forever to find out ubuntu had an IRC client already installed
[21:10] <nDuff> Aisri, well, there are a few ways; the one that's easier for me (with my expert hat on) is to run alt+F2 and run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[21:10] <Guest16417> cody: i used synaptic
[21:10] <adub> is there a way to format the drive from within ubuntu i am using it as a usb external drive and cant figure out how 70.1 gigabytes are already used
[21:10] <adub> or thats what its showing when i click on properties
[21:10] <Aisri> I'm on that menu, what now?
[21:10] <Anon8283> intuitive, hat do you mean use setup (hd0)
[21:11] <enry> how to install epiphany webkin in ubuntu 8.04???
[21:11] <enry> how to install epiphany webkit in ubuntu 8.04???
[21:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Anon8283: If you are using the command-line GRUB (by starting grub manually) you can use its internal commands to find and setup the disk correctly.
[21:11] <nDuff> Aisri, the alt+F2 menu? Put in the command I gave you, and it should prompt for a password; put in the password, and it'll open a configuration file. Can you copy and paste the file to a pastebin?
[21:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Anon8283: Does the PC have just one hard disk?
[21:12] <Anon8283> i can not get into grub
[21:12] <Anon8283> yes the pc has just 1 hdd
[21:12] <Anon8283> my comp boots straight to an error 21 after saying its trying to load grub 1.5
[21:12] <Anon8283> i have no options, no nothing. i have to reboot again and it just happens again.
[21:12] <^hashbang^> Anon8283:
[21:13] <Anon8283> so what i do is i pop in the xp disc, delete the partition for linux, and just try again
[21:13] <Anon8283> and always get the same result
[21:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Anon8283: re: "cannot get into grub" - I *don't* mean the grub boot-loader, I mean the actual "grub" program that can be run from a Linux command-line... I assume that is also available via the supergrub CD (never needed that myself) ?
[21:13] <matteo> Hi all, i am having problems with flash on mozilla and opera.. i know
[21:13] <matteo> flashplugin non free, and all worked fine since 2 days ago... I can't
[21:13] <matteo> see any youtube videos on either mozilla or opera... Any tips?
[21:14] <Anon8283> see i dont even know how to do that
[21:14] <Anon8283> i am very new to linux
[21:14] <Anon8283> this is super confusing to me with the command lines
[21:14] <Guest51603> does anyone know why i cannot find compiz settings i have looked everywhere
[21:14] <Anon8283> i know how to use DOS...but linux comand lines confuse the hell out of me
[21:14] <Cody> Im trying to bridge connections for my xbox and my laptop (connected by ethernet)(laptop connected wirelessly) but when i run the wizard and choose eht0 to share with it says its not ready. Can anybody help me on that.
[21:14] <iodine> I have a problem: once when i updated program my computer ran out of power and ever since no program has been able to write to disk, temporary or persistent files. I have cleared apt cache and tried some other things ive found online without result.
[21:14] <Anon8283> how do i pull up grub in a terminal in linux?
[21:15] <Cody> I cannot connect my xbox to my network.
[21:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Anon8283: hang on a moment... do you have the Ubuntu live-CD available? If so, you can boot from that and then use the grub command-line program on there to sort things out
[21:15] <iodine> they can write to disk when run as root but they still have some other problems
[21:15] <aliciapg> where can i go to get ssh help?
[21:15] <Anon8283> ok, after i do that...can you give me a step by step of what to do?
[21:15] <Anon8283> because i will print it out and try it and if no luck i will have to come back here lol
[21:15] <crdlb> sea1: what do you mean by 'find', exactly?
[21:15] <skybound> adub: a common setting reserves 5% of the total capacity for the root user; you can change that with "tune2fs" like "sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda1"; i think the filesystem should not be mounted, so better boot of a cdrom
[21:16] <sea1> well last night my mate told me to go into compiz settitings but i could not find it i preferences
[21:16] <Shadoweaver> Hello everyone
[21:17] <Shadoweaver> I have a question
[21:17] <crdlb> sea1: you probably want to install compizconfig-settings-manager and simple-ccsm
[21:17] <guntbert> !ask | Shadoweaver
[21:17] <nickUK`> Hello, I am having problems with my linux not letting me play Guild Wars, It was working orginally befor i formatted to the same version 7.10 but then started playing up so i upgraded to 8.10 and it has got worse again.
[21:17] <sea1> k ill try that
[21:18] <gaintsura_> hey all, I was installing ubuntu on my secondary system, and ran out of space, I had to move /home and /usr to a second drive, I modified fstab to reflect /dev/sdb1 for /usr and /dev/sdb2 for /home, I used cp -ra /media/disk/usr/*  to /media/disk-1/ (/dev/sdb1) and cp -ra /media/disk/home/* to /media/disk-2/ (/dev/sdb2). When I boot up it says either permission denied or file not found. I checked before removing /usr from the original location, and it sa
[21:18] <gaintsura_> id that /usr was at /dev/sdb1 and /home was at /dev/sdb2, but why is it not finding  them at boot?
[21:18] <Shadoweaver> Does anyone know how to change xubuntu's longing screen background?
[21:18] <nDuff> Aisri, could you paste that file in your web browser at http://paste.ubuntu.com/, and then give the URL?
[21:18] <Cody> Guest51603:  what version of ubuntu are you using.
[21:18] <mustangg> Is there a difference between using motherboard fakeraid and installing to "its" partition(s), versus not creating the fakeraid partition and then installing "native" linux software raid ?
[21:19] <nDuff> mustangg, ...yes, there are differences. Other operating systems will play better with the fakeraid, but the "native" RAID will be more reliable and/or play better with management tools.
[21:19] <nickUK`> Hello, I am having problems with my linux not letting me play Guild Wars, It was working orginally befor i formatted to the same version 7.10 but then started playing up so i upgraded to 8.10 and it has got worse again.
[21:19] <sea1> crdlb now what do i do
[21:19] <madsj> is there a way I can have a utf-8 and iso-8859-1 terminal coexisting ?
[21:20] <crdlb> sea1: now you have CompizConfig Settings Manager in your System -> Preferences menu, along with the Simple version
[21:20] <aliciapg> where can i go to get ssh help?
[21:20] <sea1> thanks for all your help
[21:20] <prometheus77> when i            https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#preview      gpg --check-sigs 428D7C01 gives me an errormsg
[21:20] <cousteau> ubuntu recognizes files which source begins with "%" or "function" as Matlab code, but if its name is *.m, then it shows it's an "objective-c code"
[21:21] <madsj> aliciapg: what kind of help ?
[21:21] <madsj> ssh covers a lot of things :-)
[21:21] <prometheus77> 1 signature not checked due to a missing key
[21:21] <aliciapg> madsj: i need to get past a router
[21:21] <mustangg> nDuff - okay, one step further. Is it worthwhile for a video workstation to use LVM? There are only 2 or 3 drives in the box, no hardware raid. I'm just looking to improve i/o ans speed as much as possible and am not concerned about enterprise-class resource management abilities.
[21:22] <oh_dear_he_died> nickUK`, you should try winehq , also look at wine database for guild wars
[21:22] <nDuff> mustangg, LVM uses very large blocks, so the performance penalty is, if not completely imperceptible, pretty close to it
[21:22] <nDuff> mustangg, ...and it makes adding more space later easier (ie. you can span your filesystem onto part of an external drive).
[21:22]  * nDuff has to go now.
[21:22] <madsj> what shall I do to get a utf-8 and iso-8859-1 (latin-1) terminal to be coexisting ?
[21:23] <Shadoweaver> Where does one go to learn how to program in bash?
[21:23] <MacGyverNL> Does the Ubuntu LiveCD include an IRC program?
[21:23] <bruenig> Shadoweaver: read shell scripts, understand them, replicate them
[21:23] <lstarnes> MacGyverNL: I think it includes either xchat-gnome or pidgin
[21:23] <cousteau> MacGyverNL: pidgin
[21:23] <fosco_> MacGyverNL: yes, pidgin supports irc
[21:23] <lstarnes> MacGyverNL: pidgin doesn't support irc very well beyond simple messages
[21:24] <bruenig> Shadoweaver: you probably are better off learning how to use the shell proper before scripts, and I mean really understand it, not just how to run ls or somethin
[21:24] <MacGyverNL> Can I tell someone to just "Boot the liveCD and connect to that and that network from pidgin"? I have zero experience with the pidgin UI so I don't know how straightforward that will be.
[21:24] <aliciapg> i need help tunneling via ssh
[21:24] <cousteau> pidgin is a generic IM program, it's not too good but it supports many protocols: the ideal IM for a LiveCD
[21:25] <fosco_> MacGyverNL: yes you can
[21:25] <mustangg> nDuff - so you are of the opinion that going straight LVM is worthwhile even if I don't have actual raid for physical redundency? Are LVM tools unified and reasonable for the non-dev ?
[21:25] <israel> hi, i need a xserver client to conect 2 ubuntu pc, i would like someone that works like xming, any idea?
[21:25] <Aisri> http://paste.ubuntu.com/114963/plain/
[21:25] <Aisri> http://paste.ubuntu.com/114963/plain/              Just in case you didn't see it
[21:25] <Aisri> maybe someone else can help me. I no longer have the choice to boot into XP here's my grub list thing or whatever it's called. Please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/114963/plain/
[21:25] <guntbert> Shadoweaver: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[21:25] <Aisri> can someone help me with my problem? I cannot see XP on my list of OS's when I boot up
[21:26] <Aisri> mustangg - nDuff left for a bit
[21:26] <cousteau> MacGyverNL: I'm not sure, in Pidgin you first need to "create an account"; you can't connect directly to a certain server afaik
[21:27] <Aisri> is there no one that can help me?
[21:27] <aliciapg> where can i go to get help tunneling via ssh?
[21:27] <lstarnes> Aisri: you need to manually add XP to grub's configuration
[21:27] <n0gear> hang on Aisri i'll copy paste you the windows one
[21:28] <guntbert> israel: every linux with running X (=gui) is a XServer already, no need for xming
[21:28] <mustangg> aisri - oops! the hazards of trying to fix my linux box while irc'ing in the next room on a win box :)
[21:28] <Aisri> I really have no idea how to add XP or what I need to do at all. But thank you both ahead of time
[21:28] <Aisri> sorry for any impatience
[21:29] <mustangg> Well then. Any other opinions   re:going straight LVM is worthwhile even if I don't have actual raid for physical redundency? Are LVM tools unified and reasonable for the non-dev ?
[21:29] <stragerLN> Hello.  I have two computers, one Ubuntu.  Ubuntu has openssh-server installed, with sshd up.  The other is Gentoo.  Both are connected via a direct ethernet wire.  Ubuntu's IP is 1.1.1.1 and Gentoo's is 1.1.1.2.  I cannot ssh from Gentoo to Ubuntu, but I can from Ubuntu to Gentoo.
[21:30] <stragerLN> I would like to ssh from Gentoo to Ubuntu, but I get "connect to host 1.1.1.1 port 22: Connection refused"
[21:30] <IntuitiveNipple> Aisri: show us the the partition layout of the disk using "cfdisk -P t /dev/sda" (assuming sda is the hard disk)
[21:30] <israel> guntbert: but my problem is that when i try to connect from PC A to PC B i need to be log in, and i need to see the users
[21:30] <Aisri> uh...how?
[21:30] <Aisri> I'm completely new to ubuntu
[21:30] <stragerLN> iptables prints no rules.  I can ssh to localhost on Ubuntu.
[21:30] <carlitos__> this  channel   sucks
[21:30] <carlitos__> evrybody   sucks  here
[21:30] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: Ubuntu needs the ssh server installing most likely (sudo apt-get install openssh-server)
[21:31] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: I have that installed, as I stated.  It's up and running (can ssh to localhost on Ubuntu).
[21:31] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: Uh... oh... sorry, I only saw the last comment!
[21:31] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: My guess is that it's a firewall issue but iptables is blank and I don't know how Ubuntu manages networks/firewalls.
[21:31] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: what command-line are you using on the client side?
[21:31] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: ssh 1.1.1.1
[21:32] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Tried -vvv.  Only confirms that nothing much goes on other than the connection being refused
[21:32] <StevenX> Hello. Can someone help me run multiple instances of x?
[21:32] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: Try ssh <username>@1.1.1.1
[21:32] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Did that too
[21:32] <guntbert> israel: on A type ssh -X B, that gives you a shell on B and every X program uses A for screen/keyboard/mouse, try for instance with xeyes :)
[21:32] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: hmmm ok... check in the Ubuntu system's /var/log/auth.log and /var/log/daemon.log ?
[21:32] <n0gear> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:32] <ravious> anyone have any advice on how to keep a usb hard drive from spinning down? or better yet, how to make it recover from a spin down?
[21:33] <n0gear> title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[21:33] <n0gear> root            (hd0,0)
[21:33] <n0gear> savedefault
[21:33] <n0gear> makeactive
[21:33] <n0gear> chainloader     +1
[21:33] <FloodBot3> n0gear: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <n0gear> 
[21:33] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Nothing in either.
[21:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Aisri: In Ubuntu, Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[21:33] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: (About SSH that is.)
[21:33] <skybound> stragerLN: have you checked if sshd is bound to the ethernet/all network devices; maybe just accessible from loopback?
[21:33] <stragerLN> skybound: How would I check for that?
[21:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Aisri: Then, at the command-line: "cfdisk -P t /dev/sda"
[21:34] <wolter> how do i move files to trash with bash ??
[21:34] <stragerLN> wolter: mv myfile ~/.Trash, I think.
[21:34] <blizzle> wolter, or you can rm them if you prefer.
[21:34] <stragerLN> wolter: Er, no, that's KDE or something
[21:34] <n0gear> .
[21:34] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: The 'refused' message is usually when there's an sshd responding but not accepting connections
[21:34] <cousteau> I think it won't work; .Trash has subdirectories
[21:34] <skybound> stragerLN: either in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or run "netstat -nlt", look for port 22 and verify that is is bound to 0.0.0.0:22
[21:35] <wolter> blizzle, rm deletes them, doesn't move them to trash
[21:35] <guntbert> !trash | wolter
[21:35] <stragerLN> skybound: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[21:35] <scunizi> I just created a bootable usb stick.  Where do I go to make a modification to the kernel line or do I just not worry about it and wait to do it when I boot from it? Works like a live cd right?
[21:36] <israel> guntbert: but what i need is to see the users available
[21:36] <LeonBrussels> scunizi: In theory, the live USb works just like the LiveCD
[21:36] <stragerLN> scunizi: There should be a menu.lst file in /boot/grub or similar
[21:36] <israel> like in xming
[21:36] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: On the client, you are trying to connect using the IP address, yes?
[21:36] <aliciapg> where can i go to get help tunneling via ssh?
[21:36] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Yes, no DNS issues
[21:36] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: I can ping.
[21:36] <skybound> stragerLN: hm, something else than. let me think for a moment
[21:36] <scunizi> LeonBrussels: and stragerLN thanks to both of you..
[21:36] <israel> is it posible?
[21:36] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: OK... use tcpdump on both ends to monitor tcp port 22
[21:36] <carlitos__> nobody help me  here
[21:37] <carlitos__> i  do not  care
[21:37] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: There are plenty of tutorials to be found using google, but I have done it before so maybe I can help you if you have a specific question
[21:37] <greenmanspirit> :win c
[21:37] <guntbert> israel: you want the full gdm login screen?
[21:37] <israel> yes
[21:37] <israel> guntbert: yes, it is what i want
[21:37] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: i was trying to connect to my brother's laptop via ssh with dyndns but he's behind a router
[21:38] <blizzle> aliciapg, Try hamachi and ghamachi. http://hamachi.cc and google for ghamachi 0.81
[21:38] <Roken> alicia, make sure port 22 is open on your router
[21:38] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: I must be doing something wrong...  `tcpdump port 22` right ?
[21:38] <LeonBrussels> you have to open port 22 on your router, so basically the data passes through to his laptop
[21:38] <stragerLN> LeonBrussels: There is no router.  It's a direct connection.
[21:38] <scunizi> stragerLN: just fyi, I think I'll have to do it on boot because there isn't a /boot or /boot/grub.. I guess since it runs like a live cd it creates the FS on the fly from compressed file/folders
[21:39] <stragerLN> LeonBrussels: Er, unless you weren't talking to me =]
[21:39] <nickUK`> Does anybody know how to enable Direct3d/ 3D Acceleration in Ubuntu
[21:39] <carlitos__> fuck  you all
[21:39] <blizzle> Or use hamachi, which doesn't require any router config.
[21:39] <Pirate_Hunter> it is like the system is just full of problems, I cant seem to run gconf-editor - http://pastebin.ca/1329381
[21:39] <Roken> StrangerLN, he was talking to aliciapg =P
[21:39] <`Alt`> carlitos__ u the first time
[21:39] <stragerLN> nickUK`: Direct3D isn't native to Linux / Ubuntu.
[21:39] <blizzle> carlitos__, Shall we form an orderly queue?
[21:39] <LeonBrussels> stragerLN: no, talking to aliciapg :)
[21:39] <nickUK`> stragerLN - how do i get this then
[21:39] <carlitos__> still   waiting  for  help
[21:40] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: tcpdump tcp port 22
[21:40] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Send that to your brother, they have tutorials for every router: http://portforward.com/
[21:40] <blizzle> carlitos__, You're unlikely to get any by behaving like an asshat :)
[21:40] <israel> guntbert: is it possible?
[21:40] <nickUK`> stragerLN - how do i get this then
[21:40] <carlitos__> well   is  my   charm
[21:40] <nickUK`> Does anybody know how to enable 3D Acceleration in Ubuntu
[21:41] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: but i would like to be able to issue commands on his computer
[21:41] <blizzle> aliciapg, Do consider hamachi, it's zero config, more or less, once it's installed. And cross platform.
[21:41] <guntbert> israel: yes, go to system/administration/log window: there is a tab "remote", but I cannot help you from here on (I never used it)
[21:41] <carlitos__> anyone  can  help me  about  this ? http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=155595
[21:41] <stragerLN> nickUK`: Not sure...  Probably depends on your video card.
[21:41] <carlitos__> I   speak   spanish   as well
[21:41] <`Alt`> nickUK`   download envy and install drivers for u video 0card
[21:41] <aliciapg> blizzle: would that allow me to issue commands on his computer
[21:41] <IntuitiveNipple> nickUK`: 3D acceleration depends on the video hardware in the PC, and which drivers are being used. Usually you'll need the proprietary drivers (from nvidia or ATI) for 3D hardware acceleration
[21:41] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Yes SSH allows you to run anything on his computer
[21:42] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Does nothing on either system.  The host (Ubuntu, which is connected to the internet) gets some inet activity
[21:42] <blizzle> aliciapg, It would allow you to bypass any router issues, and establish a direct connection.. then you'd use ssh.
[21:42] <Tobias2200> blizzle: aw god. now i was burning the cd on another notebook. the software got stuck at the end. so i rebooted and took out the cd. and of course it doesnt work :( the 3rd useless CD-R today.
[21:42] <blizzle> aliciapg, It's a VPN solution.
[21:42] <nickUK`> Envy is already installed - So what next then?
[21:42] <Manix1> blizzle:  the Drivers are working but when I try to save a resolution change in the Nvidia x server settings app I get, "Failed to parse existing X config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[21:43] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: very strange ... are the PCs connected via a router?
[21:43] <`Alt`> nickUK`  run this program and select drivers and clic INSTALL
[21:43] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: or just a switch/hub ?
[21:43] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: No, direct, through a wire.
[21:43] <`Alt`> that's all
[21:43] <skybound> stragerLN: i would start by using telnet or netcat from the gentoo box and check if sshd accepts the connection; if it does, kill sshd and start it manually with a -d param to keep it in the foreground; see if it writes anything to the logfiles (actually, if you haven't already, check that first)
[21:43] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: Crossover cable?
[21:43] <blizzle> Manix1, Check your xorg.conf file for syntax issues, perhaps.
[21:43] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Standard 100Mbps ethernet
[21:43] <the[V]oid> Hi. I have a mythtv-box and a network-attached-storage (NAS) that contains mp3 files. I can mount it's share without problems. But whenever I try to play a file, for instance with mpg123, it just hangs. Any idea what the reason could be, or where to start searching the error? It worked until yesterday, I did not perform any changes to my network/system. Mounting the share from a different computer and playing from there works fine
[21:43] <carlitos__> I  am  gonna  suicide
[21:43] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: OK, and you've verified they can 'talk' with ping?
[21:43] <blizzle> Tobias2200, Not your lucky day it seems :/
[21:44] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Yes.  Will check again.
[21:44] <stragerLN> skybound: Will try.
[21:44] <nickUK`> ahh
[21:44] <israel> guntbert: ok, is these feature named HDMPC?
[21:44] <nickUK`> they were not
[21:44] <nickUK`> installing now#
[21:44] <salmon> does anyone out there know of a program like pidgin that runs stuff like ventrillo, skype, team speak and such
[21:44] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: yup, they can talk
[21:44] <`Alt`> carlitos__gooD)
[21:44] <Manix1> blizzle:  again.. kinda new here :D How do I do that?
[21:44] <ezerhoden> my  most frustrating experience using ubuntu is getting a dvd to play. what a pita
[21:44] <aliciapg> blizzle: is there and easier way? we are both running ubuntu
[21:44] <carlitos__> hell nobody hel me  out
[21:44] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: so you've set up static IPs each side in the same subnet?
[21:44] <blizzle> salmon, Skype is proprietary, so only Skype will work. As for other protocols, check that they're open.
[21:44] <shubbar> how do i exit x?
[21:44] <Tobias2200> blizzle: can i "uniso" the iso with winrar, and burn it onto a DVD-RW? (i dont want to burn another CD-R) or do i need a special boot sector file or something?
[21:44] <ezerhoden> !dvd
[21:44] <guntbert> israel: XDMCP :)
[21:44] <stragerLN> skybound: I get a message "Connection refused" (with some protocol stuff) when nc'ing
[21:45] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Yes
[21:45] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: 1.1.1.1 for Ubuntu, 1.1.1.2 for client
[21:45] <guntbert> !patience | carlitos__
[21:45] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: how about the routing tables... worth checking them both sides "ip route"
[21:45] <israel> guntbert: ok, let me try, thanks
[21:46] <stragerLN> skybound: Er, wait, no protocol stuff.  Seems to be nc talking.
[21:46] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: well, what if i don't know what kind of router it is
[21:46] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: Also, are either PC connected to other networks via other interfaces?
[21:46] <blizzle> aliciapg, It's pretty easy. Grab hamachi from http://hamachi.cc and then install as per the instructions. Then grab ghamachi 0.81 and run that as root, then you setup a private network (name/pass) and you're away. Pretty easy. About 5 minutes work.
[21:46] <carlitos__> yeah m I know  that  I   collaborate  in ubuntu-es  as  well
[21:46] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Host is connected to the Internet.  That's all.
[21:46] <guntbert> israel: if you employ a firewall don't forget to open a port ...
[21:46] <carlitos__> :D
[21:46] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Are you the more tech savy guy or your brother?
[21:47] <ad1> hi all
[21:47] <carlitos__> somebody   can help me  how  to   create  a  udev rule
[21:47] <wolter> guntbert, but i need root to access that folder?
[21:47] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Not sure about the output of ip route
[21:47] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Otherwise you can do something where you set everything up on your side, the whole port forwarding stuff and he just has to connect to you and you see his screen
[21:47] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: Will paste
[21:47] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: pastebin them?
[21:47] <Manix1> blizzle: how do I check my xorg.conf file for syntax issues
[21:47] <ad1> can anyone help with mount ntfs internal hdd in 8.04?
[21:48] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: i'm a girl and yes
[21:48] <stragerLN> skybound: I get no activity from sshd when trying to connect from client.
[21:48] <wolter> guntbert, nvm... i thought it was under usr
[21:48] <ad1> I cant mount my internal sda1
[21:48] <ad1> wich is a ntfs with xp inside
[21:48] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: and i want to be able to install programs without him having to do anything
[21:48] <skybound> stragerLN: you are sure about no firewall rules on either box? have you changed settings in /etc/hosts.deny?
[21:48] <mindframe-> WHY WONT SSH START UP?
[21:48] <mindframe-> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[21:48] <carlitos__> I  hate  you  guys
[21:48] <blizzle> Manix1, This is the point in the conversation where I hand you over to google :)
[21:48] <pronto> because you are using caps lock
[21:49] <mindframe-> heh
[21:49] <n8tuser> ad1 -> which partition do you boot from?
[21:49] <guntbert> wolter: no, it is in you home dir and should be owned by you
[21:49] <carlitos__> in   spanish   there  are  a  lot  of  nice  people
[21:49] <ad1> sda1
[21:49] <blizzle> !es
[21:49] <mindframe-> seriously why cant sshd start properly?
[21:49] <salmon> ok i have a question about wine, i deleted ventrillo from the C: folder, and i am trying to install it again, it keeps telling me i must uninstall it before i can install it again, but i deleted it. so does anyone know what i need to do
[21:49] <ad1> ntfs partition
[21:49] <M0badedr> hi all
[21:49] <carlitos__> I know  thAT
[21:49] <M0badedr> dose any one knows abt squid cache server???
[21:49] <carlitos__> !es
[21:49] <pike_> salmon: did it have an unistaller exe in the install folder?
[21:49] <SuperGuy_9000> Is there a way to convert a FAT32 external hard drive to Ext4? Thanks in advance.
[21:50] <guntbert> carlitos__: I have no idea what your problem is - maybe you tell us?
[21:50] <stragerLN> skybound: Nothing there.
[21:50] <pike_> SuperGuy_9000: be easiest just to tar.gz everything then reformat and uncompress the tar.gz
[21:50] <ubuntu_> oigan d
[21:50] <stragerLN> skybound, IntuitiveNipple, Odd, I can't ssh from host to client anymore
[21:50] <SuperGuy_9000> Thanks pike
[21:50] <ubuntu_> donde puedo bajar tutoriales para aprender linux
[21:50] <stragerLN> But can ping
[21:50] <lifenova> !es | ubuntu_
[21:50] <blizzle> SuperGuy_9000, Forget ext4, you won't see full benefits unless you creative it natively.
[21:50] <ubuntu_> es ke tengo una dudota para conectarme a internet por medio de modem usb
[21:50] <salmon> pike: i have no idea, i just deleted the ventrillo folder from the C: folder, and my trash has been emptied since then.
[21:50] <mjc> hm. should I ask questions about jaunty here or in -devel?
[21:50] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: http://code.google.com/p/gitso/ You have to open port 5500 in your computer and your brother simply has to type your IP address, so he will have to do only a minimum of work and you can do all the stuff on your side
[21:50] <SuperGuy_9000> OK
[21:51] <ad1> this is very strange
[21:51] <M0badedr> dose any one knows abt squid cache server???
[21:51] <pike_> salmon: im not sure how youd attack a registry problem in wine :/
[21:51] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: http://rafb.net/p/wMEGd522.html
[21:51] <ad1> older ubuntu versions can mount automatically ntfs partition
[21:51] <carlitos__> ubuntu   anda  al otro   canal y pide  ayuda  en   español
[21:51] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: is it possible for him not to do anything though?
[21:51] <carlitos__> ya  se fue
[21:51] <ad1> in this 8.04 something is going wrong
[21:51] <salmon> pike: thank you anyway.
[21:52] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: i don't want to have to call him every time
[21:52] <ad1> ntfs-3g is installed by default
[21:52] <blizzle> aliciapg, Installed hamachi yet?
[21:52] <guntbert> !jaunty | mjc
[21:52] <ad1> but i still cant see and mount my ntfs sda1
[21:52] <mjc> guntbert: thanks
[21:52] <aliciapg> blizzle: i'm trying something else currently i don't want to dl anything yet
[21:52] <ad1> any idea?
[21:52] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Yeah thats the great thing about it, basically you have to forward 5500 to your computer from your router, he only has to install the software and type the address you give him, he does not have to fiddle around with his router. You can then see his screen
[21:52] <guntbert> mjc: :)
[21:52] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple, skybound: Nevermind about ssh'ing to client ... had sshd down on client ;P
[21:53] <pike_> salmon: im sure someone in #winehq could help
[21:53] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Can you see how to forward port 5500 on your router to your computer?
[21:53] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: Huh... sshd on the client won't affecting ssh client connections outbound from the client
[21:53] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple, skybound: Wow, I think it magically fixed itself.
[21:54] <stragerLN> IntuitiveNipple: I know.  I was trying to ssh to the client to copy the ip route output =]
[21:54] <guntbert> M0badedr: ask in #squid :)
[21:54] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: i'm not sure what you mean
[21:54] <stragerLN> But somehow the issue's resolved.  Thanks for your help, IntuitiveNipple and skybound
[21:54] <joanki123> can anyone tell me how to change my username?
[21:54] <stragerLN> joanki123: whoami
[21:54] <stragerLN> er
[21:54] <stragerLN> Nevermind ;D
[21:54] <joanki123> i don't understand strager
[21:54] <joanki123> stragerLN:
[21:54] <M0badedr> dose any one knows abt squid cache server???
[21:55] <stragerLN> joanki123: I thought you said "check my username".  If you type 'whoami' in a terminal, you get your username.  I misread, sorry.
[21:55] <IntuitiveNipple> stragerLN: phew! good news then
[21:55] <guntbert> M0badedr: I suggested already: ask in #squid :)
[21:55] <joanki123> stragerUNhow do i change my user name
[21:55] <guntbert> M0badedr: that channel exists
[21:55] <spawn> ciao a tutti!
[21:56] <guntbert> !it | spawn
[21:56] <M0badedr> guntbert:what do u mean
[21:56] <Randakar> anyone know if 9.04's multihead support is any better than 8.10's?
[21:56] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: does this require him to do that only once?
[21:56] <spawn> ciao a tutti!
[21:56] <_VIM_> !jaunty | Randakar
[21:57] <joanki123> stragerLN: can you tell me how i change my username
[21:57] <guntbert> M0badedr: you will get better answers in #squid, as *this* is the ubuntu support channel
[21:57] <ad1> this is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114982/
[21:57] <joanki123> is there an irc help room?
[21:57] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: I think what you want is your brother having to do a minimum amount of work; All the technical work has to be done by you. You have to forward a port from your router to your computer. this is described on http://portforward.com/ you have to forward port 5500. Then your brother only has to download one software, enter some numbers and click connect, nothing difficult he has to do.
[21:57] <ad1> i dont have any ntfs line in here
[21:57] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: You however have to set up the port
[21:57] <gsp2009> does anyone know where I can see a tutorial on setting up file sharing, permanent links to network shares etc, for 8.10. Not SAMBA... just ubuntu.. Everything is about Samba.
[21:57] <ad1> can anyone help?
[21:57] <_VIM_> joanki123: try #freenode
[21:57] <joshjtl> anyone know what file is used to set up the gnome menus?
[21:58] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: but i want to be able to access his computer anytime without him being there. is that possible?
[21:58] <Safe> Is there anyway to put the livecd on an 1gb usb-stick?
[21:58] <nDuff> mustangg, I find the LVM tools very comfortable once you're used to them -- it's certainly a lot easier than needing to worry about moving and resizing partitions if you need more space -- but I also remember being a little confused the first time I ever tried LVM.
[21:58] <stragerLN> ad1: Why?  Do you expect an ntfs line?
[21:58] <Safe> well, it should be bootable too
[21:58] <ad1> to mount my internal ntfs i guess
[21:59] <guntbert> Safe: system/administration/create a usb....
[21:59] <ad1> or if you know any trick to mount my windows partition
[21:59] <stragerLN> ad1: You can mount it manually, using mount or nautilus's easy mounter thing.  Do you want it to persist?
[21:59] <pike_> Safe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:59] <Safe> thanks a bunch
[21:59] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Then you need SHH. Gitso is based on the principle that he requests support. Follow the advice from blizzle and install hamachi on both machines. This is the easiest way. Then you can just SSH without him having to forward ports or anything
[21:59] <stragerLN> ad1: Go into Places > Computer and click your drive on the left pane to mount it
[21:59] <ad1> it does not work
[22:00] <stragerLN> ad1: Do you have ntfs libs installed?
[22:00] <stragerLN> ad1: Install the package: ntfsprogs
[22:00] <Safe> will it work as a livecd does? so it just boots up into ubuntu?
[22:00] <ad1> im anable to mount volume from places/computer
[22:00] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: alright....
[22:00] <stragerLN> ad1: E.g. sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[22:00] <guntbert> mustangg: have you seen this? http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[22:00] <ad1> ok
[22:01] <n8tuser> ad1 -> your root you said was /dev/sda1  ? that seems contradicts unless you meant /dev/sda1 is not where you boot your linux from
[22:01] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: i was told not to use that now because linux has tools built in
[22:01] <jlc> anyone use schroot?
[22:01] <ad1> here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114982/
[22:01] <Safe> hm, maybe im looking for portable linux :)
[22:01] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Basically download hamachi, create a new network, you both join the network (sounds difficult, is easy). It will give both of you an IP. Then he simply has to install SSH and you can type ssh username@hisip and it connects
[22:01] <guntbert> Safe: the one from the menu creates a stick like a live CD, optionally with storage to save settings "within"
[22:02] <blizzle> aliciapg, You want a quick solution, or you want to dick about? Your choice :)
[22:02] <mustangg> nDuff - so far it sounds a lot like the way I read bsd works for fs's ....   not too hard but something in need of "paying attention".
[22:02] <stragerLN> ad1: Did you install ntfsprogs?  Can you now mount using nautilus ("Computer")
[22:02] <Unguided> does anyone know if either of these 2 mobos will work out of the box: gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p socket 775 or gigabyte ga-ep45c-ds3r socket 775
[22:02] <wooboy> HEY GUYS I GOT SOME TROUBLE WITH XUBUNTU ON A LAPTOP
[22:02] <aliciapg> well...i don't mind messing around with it
[22:02] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: If you want it dead simple, use hamachi
[22:02] <mustangg> guntbert - I'd not even seen that site before. But thanks !
[22:02] <ad1> still enable to mount after sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[22:02] <wooboy> the two top and bottom bars diseapeared!!!
[22:02] <LeonBrussels> !ubottu caps
[22:03] <LeonBrussels> samn
[22:03] <guntbert> !shout | wooboy
[22:03] <blizzle> aliciapg, Also, don't take a face value everything you're told.. some folk have agendas, some are purists..
[22:03] <wooboy> sorry gnutbert
[22:03] <stragerLN> ad1: What is the output of : sudo fdisk -l|grep -i ntfs
[22:03] <aliciapg> blizzle: i was told that by one of my friends
[22:03] <wooboy> and ubottu
[22:03] <lokieee> hi guys, is there a way for me to see shared memory so i can kill the processes attached to it?
[22:03] <lokieee> currently i have to do:   ipcs -m
[22:03] <lokieee> then i have to do a grep on the shmid
[22:03] <ravious> anyone know what the default spindown time of a usb hard drive might be?
[22:03] <lokieee> and then kill the process to that shmid
[22:03] <lokieee> and its taking forever
[22:03] <FloodBot3> lokieee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <wooboy> how can i get the two bars back???
[22:03] <ad1> ok
[22:03] <lokieee> does unbuntu have a built in tool so i can just see all the processes and kill them
[22:03] <guntbert> mustangg: I worked through that tutorial only recently - its a great experience
[22:03] <aliciapg> plus i'm going to have to do this again with my desktop
[22:04] <ad1> /dev/sda1   *           1        7649    61440561    7  HPFS/NTFS
[22:04] <xtmnx> could anyone tell me if it'll be possible to install ubuntu server using floppy boot + data on usb? (computer doesn't support usb boot)
[22:04] <n8tuser> lokieee -> ipcs
[22:04] <blizzle> aliciapg, Your call. You have a quick and easy solution, or you can muddle through.
[22:04] <lokieee> thats what i'm doing
[22:04] <ad1> does this tells you anything?
[22:04] <blizzle> xtmnx, In principle, yes.
[22:04] <stragerLN> ad1: Run this command: mkdir -p /mnt/windows && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[22:04] <n8tuser> !who | adi
[22:04] <LeonBrussels> Unguided: I think Gigabyte Mobos from the ep45 are normally pretty standard. Should work fine. Nothing special on there to my knowledge
[22:04] <n8tuser> !who | lokieee
[22:04] <aliciapg> blizzle: i kind of want to learn how
[22:04] <xtmnx> blizzle: so is it not practical for whatever reason?
[22:04] <ad1> ok
[22:05] <mustangg> guntbert- well I'm actually trying to fix my original error, which was to use fakeraid. I think I may well use LVM as it sounds better than my other current ways of adding storage. Of course I need to get my mondoarchive working now.. sigh
[22:05] <lokieee> n8tuser  i'm using that method..i was wondering if there was an easier way to do it
[22:05] <stragerLN> ad1: Your files should appear in the directory /mnt/windows.
[22:05] <blizzle> aliciapg, As for built-in tools, have a look at OpenVPN.. you'll soon realise the benefits of pragmatism :)
[22:05] <ad1> this output: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[22:05] <ad1>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[22:05] <ad1>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[22:05] <ad1>        dmesg | tail  or so
[22:05] <FloodBot3> ad1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <Safe> one final question, can i make a live usb ubuntu from within windows?
[22:05] <ad1> sory
[22:05] <n8tuser> lokieee -> to list   ipcs,  to remove  ipcrm     man ipcs  please
[22:05] <xtmnx> I used my last remaining blanc cd on burning intrepid server which kept giving me sr0 device error, so I'm trying to instsll hardy instead
[22:05] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Basically you want to use Hamachi because it does everythign for you. I tried openvpn once. I figured I would do something easier instead....
[22:05] <stragerLN> ad1: Hmm.  You sure ntfsprogs sucessfully installed?
[22:06] <ad1> yes
[22:06] <ad1> I'll try again
[22:06] <stragerLN> ad1: sudo modprobe ntfs; then try again
[22:06] <n8tuser> ad1 -> you didnt seem to have shutdown your windows properly.   reboot to windows and shutdown properly
[22:06] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: well, i guess i'll learn the hard way, i don't mind
[22:06] <ad1> I have this problem since yesteday
[22:07] <lokieee> n8tuser perhaps I'm not being clear about my question....I know how to remove those shared memory segments, the thing is, you can't just ipcrm -m shmid, becuase those shmid are connected to processes, so I need to find the processes related to those shmid's.  I was wondering if unbuntu had a tool that shows me currently ALL the processes running in a system.
[22:07] <Unguided> does anyone know if either of these 2 mobos will work out of the box: gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p socket 775 or gigabyte ga-ep45c-ds3r socket 775
[22:07] <ad1> and i think i shutdown windows more than 10 times now
[22:07] <ad1> but i'll try now again
[22:07] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: You don't want to learn the hard way. You want to use hamachi. Seriously, if you don't want to spend hours and hours trying tofigure out why it doesnt work while there is a simple solution just doesnt seem practical
[22:07] <stragerLN> Unguided: gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p // works.  Using now, Ubuntu 8.04
[22:07] <n8tuser> ad1 i have already reminded you of putting a prefix nick to whomever you are corresponding to.. thats protocol here on this channel
[22:07] <stragerLN> ad1: I doubt it's Windows
[22:08] <blizzle> LeonBrussels, Leave her, she's obvoiously a masochist ;)
[22:08] <martin101> would it be safe to run dd to zero out a SSD drive?
[22:08] <Unguided> stragerLN: u have just saved my rear. thank u so much for the info
[22:08] <ad1> strager LN | me too
[22:08] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: really i don't mind. i know someone who can help me if i get stuck who has done it before
[22:08] <LeonBrussels> blizzle: I tried to set up openVPN once, figured I'd use an SSH tunnel instead...
[22:08] <n8tuser> lokieee -> yes you were not clear at first,  ps  is one tool for knowing process status,  another tool to use is  lsof
[22:08] <stragerLN> ad1: Just say strager: or stragerLN, like I do.  tab complete can help (hit 'stra<TAB>' at the beginning of a line)
[22:08] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Well good luck expalining to your brother how to configure stuff on his side
[22:08] <stragerLN> ad1: Also...  Have you tried...  (one sec)
[22:09] <blizzle> LeonBrussels, I looked at OpenVPN a while back, as an open source alternative to hamachi, and decided it wasn't quite ready for easy deployment :/
[22:09] <ad1> stragerLN  |ok
[22:09] <stragerLN> ad1: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[22:09] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: haha thanks. I think i'll manage with pastebin
[22:09] <villevicious> I have a asus eee 901 and I'm thinking of moving from the ready installed Xandros to ubuntu. Are there eny special eee/laptop optimized distros I should look for?
[22:09] <aliciapg> that's what i've been doing
[22:10] <martin101> eeebuntu
[22:10] <blizzle> villevicious, You'll want the Easy Peasy distro, probably. Formerly known as Eeebuntu.
[22:10] <LeonBrussels> blizzle: In case she does realize that hamachi is the way to go, I'm off now :)
[22:10] <ad1> stragerln | :):)
[22:10] <blizzle> LeonBrussels, Me too, very shortly :)
[22:10] <n8tuser> villevicious -> any reason why you need to move to ubuntu? can you not create additional partition and install ubuntu on that, ie  dual boot?
[22:10] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Pastebin... uhu...
[22:10] <stragerLN> ad1: Works?
[22:10] <ad1> strager it did worked
[22:10] <ad1> yes
[22:10] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: it works *shrug*
[22:10] <LeonBrussels> aliciapg: Good luck off to bed
[22:10] <mustangg> guntbert - btw, how many drives were in the install you did when you used the tutorial?
[22:11] <ad1> but windows partition disapered from menu now
[22:11] <aliciapg> LeonBrussels: alright thanks for your help!
[22:11] <LeonBrussels> I am going to fosdem tomorrow!!! Anybody else going?
[22:11] <lokieee> n8tuser thanks
[22:11] <stragerLN> ad1: Go to /mnt/windows
[22:11] <ad1> and I can find it on /mnt/windows
[22:11] <n8tuser> lokieee -> you're welcome
[22:11] <stragerLN> ad1: K, cool
[22:11] <blizzle> LeonBrussels, Have a Kriek on me!
[22:11] <ad1> right
[22:11] <villevicious> I propably could, but what do I win by keeping the Xandros hangin about?
[22:11] <stragerLN> ad1: I don't know how GNOME manages drives and things.  You can probably add /mnt/windows as a drive.
[22:11] <n8tuser> please follow the protocols here  !who | ad1
[22:11] <ad1> so it will be mount on boot?
[22:11] <LeonBrussels> blizzle: The beer event is today :)
[22:11] <stragerLN> ad1: Maybe mount it in /media instead?
[22:11] <guntbert> mustangg: thats a bit ot  here - pm me please
[22:11] <n8tuser> !who | ad1
[22:11] <blizzle> villevicious, Better to nuke it and install Easy Peasy. Waste of space, dual boot.
[22:12] <stragerLN> ad1: No, it won't.  You'll need to add an entry to /etc/fstab
[22:12] <isac> I can't get internet on my ubuntu.. wHY?
[22:12] <blizzle> LeonBrussels, You'll find Kriek eveywhere! Try it, if you haven't already.. bitter cherry :)
[22:12] <ad1> stragerLN | can you provide a line for fstab to add
[22:12] <n8tuser> villevicious -> you win by getting a feel of the difference between the two distro, unless you are a linux guru and you dont need to learn a new distro eccentricities
[22:12] <stragerLN> ad1: Add this to the end of /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults,rw 0 0
[22:13] <ad1> stagerLN | possibly mount it in media
[22:13] <isac> How do i get wireless internet on my Ubuntu??? :S
[22:13] <blizzle> isac, ndiswrapper is your first step.
[22:13] <dekkong> isac: what wireless card do you have=
[22:13] <usser> stragerLN, does he need write support?
[22:13] <stragerLN> ad1: Try mounting in /media...  umount /dev/sda1 && mkdir -p /media/windows && mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[22:13] <ad1> stragerln | ok thanks
[22:13] <usser> stragerLN, ntfs driver is read only
[22:13] <mlc> hooola
[22:13] <stragerLN> usser: Oh?  Oh right, ng- allows rw
[22:13] <Caesi> Hi all, could anyone tell me where/how I activate the option to move windows by ALT+clicking them? thanks
[22:14] <LeonBrussels> blizzle: I'll be sure to order one at lunch :) How old do you have to be to order that? Beer is 16 as far as I know....
[22:14] <stragerLN> ad1: Remove the ",rw" from the /etc/fstab line, sorry
[22:14] <blizzle> usser, apt-get install ntfs-config
[22:14] <isac> dekkong; Wireless Card 802.11g
[22:14] <stragerLN> ad1: (I think, not sure)
[22:14] <blizzle> LeonBrussels, Yeah, 16 in Belgium I think. Or possibly 18. They're not so strict there, though.
[22:14] <pike_> isac: lspci -v | grep -i -c 2 ethern
[22:14] <ad1> stragerln |so the line i should add in fstab is this: ﻿/etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults,rw 0 0
[22:14] <LeonBrussels> isac: Connect to wired internet, go to system->Adminstration->Hardware drivers and see if anything shows up
[22:15] <LeonBrussels> ok really off now And I am going to FOSDEM so excited OMG!
[22:15] <mlc> alguien por aca???
[22:15] <usser> stragerLN, ntfs-3g
[22:15] <joss193> anyone knows, where is the kernel source for eeepc ubuntu?
[22:15] <stragerLN> ad1: Try the /media thing first.  If that works how you want it, then add the line to fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs defaults 0 0
[22:15] <villevicious> n8tuser: I've used ubuntu and Kubuntu on my desktop computers, so I'm familiar with them
[22:16] <joss193> 2.6.27-8-eeepc
[22:16] <stragerLN> usser: Yeah, that.  Didn't know Ubuntu had split packages.  I thought it was supposed to be friendly.  ;P
[22:16] <n8tuser> villevicious -> okay, so you dont need to dual boot, i was merely suggesting if you are not familiar with two distros, it would be easy to dual boot and get a feel of differences
[22:17] <electricfeel> I have a 64bit machine. Should i download the 32bit or 64bit version of ubuntu?
[22:17] <pike_> electricfeel: depends on your needs
[22:17] <guntbert> !pt | mlc
[22:17] <pike_> electricfeel: 64 bit is almost there but.. for most people 32 bit is the best choice atm
[22:17] <Llanto_Subterran> anybody here knows about fluxbox ?
[22:17] <electricfeel> ok
[22:18] <mustangg> n8tuser - curious, do you regulars have a secret list of bot commands? :)
[22:18] <blizzle> electricfeel, If you have more than 4GB ram, then 64bit, otherwise 32bit.
[22:18] <electricfeel> i only have 4GB
[22:18] <ryanprior> When I come back to my computer after a lengthy pause, it operates normally for about 10 seconds then locks up so hard that the kernel doesn't even respond to alt+SysRQ commands. How can I investigate why that's happening?
[22:19] <nikrud> mustangg, we cheat : try   /msg ubottu ubottu, then search the web page :)
[22:19] <n8tuser> mustangg -> if i tell you , i will have to dis-embowel you after..  j/k  :P
[22:20] <ad1> stragerLN | how to unmount from this : mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[22:20] <guntbert> ad1: umount /mnt/windows
[22:21] <iShock> If I wanted to install Ubuntu with wubi, how much memory/HD space would you recommend?
[22:21] <perillux> I'm thinking about building my own computer?  what is the optimum hardware for linux?  I know ATI sucks, so I was going to go with NVidia, but what about other hardware like CPU, monitor, sound card, ect..?
[22:21] <mustangg>  /msg ubottu ubottu
[22:21] <tarfax> hi, when i run "set" in bash it comes back with a load of bash script fu as well as the env vars i'd expect.  where are these scripts defined?
[22:21] <ad1> ok
[22:21] <nikrud> !hardware | perillux
[22:21] <n8tuser> ryanprior -> using wireless ?
[22:21] <ryanprior> n8tuser: Nope, wired LAN.
[22:21] <Unguided> anyone know if MSI P43 Neo3-F works out of the box
[22:21]  * electricfeel has not used ubuntu since high school... almost 3.5 years ago :-)... been a mac user since college :-)
[22:21] <stragerLN> ad1: umount /dev/sda1
[22:21] <stragerLN> ad1: (sudo)
[22:22] <ad1> guntbert | /mnt/windows: not mounted
[22:22]  * iShock punches electricfeel out
[22:22] <ryanprior> electricfeel: Ubuntu runs great on Macs.
[22:22] <stragerLN> ad1: In that case it's not mounted
[22:22] <blizzle> ishock: 5GB is minimal, 10GB is better.
[22:22] <ad1> ok
[22:22] <electricfeel> I'm actually putting it on my desktop. Keeping OS X only on my macbook :-D
[22:22] <iShock> blizzle, for HD or memory?
[22:22] <electricfeel> The harddrive isn't very big.
[22:22] <unop> tarfax, http://wooledge.org/mywiki/DotFiles # bash's dot files,  see also the INVOCATION section in the bash(1) manpage
[22:22] <n8tuser> ryanprior -> i think its the return from interrupt process thats faulty, after coming from your pause, it attempts to activate bunch of interrupt to access devices i believe and thats where it gets stuck, its difficult to confirm this though
[22:23] <blizzle> iShock, HD, obviously. Ramwise, 256 is doable, just, but painful. Minimum 512 for a reasonable experience.
[22:23] <carlitos__> somebody   can help me  how  to   create  a  udev rule
[22:23] <iShock> blizzle, so 3GB memory, 250GB HD = good?
[22:23] <n8tuser> ryanprior -> other than observing a frozen system
[22:23] <blizzle> iShock, You'd do much better installing properly and dual booting.
[22:23] <ryanprior> n8tuser: How do I observe the frozen system? Can I enable some sort of logging?
[22:23] <electricfeel> How easy it it to replace gnome with something like AwesomeWM or another tiling window manager?
[22:24] <blizzle> electricfeel, Very easy.
[22:24] <ad1> stragerLN | so to mount on boot I should add this line on fstab: ﻿/dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs defaults 0 0
[22:24] <ryanprior> electricfeel: One-command easy.
[22:24] <carlitos__> hey
[22:24] <iShock> blizzle, I was going to do that with Windows 7 :\
[22:24] <carlitos__> I  am  happy
[22:24] <electricfeel> yay :-D
[22:24] <Jooobaa> Anyone around to help with a ubuntu 8.10 toshiba a70 sound problem? had been running fine for 4 months then after a reboot no sound?
[22:24] <tarfax> thanks unop
[22:24] <IndyGunFreak> ad1: if its in the repositories, very easy.
[22:24] <carlitos__> are you  happy?
[22:24] <n8tuser> carlitos__ -> kindly google for  carla schroeder + udev rules  she had a good tutorial
[22:25] <n8tuser> ryanprior -> you just see that your system does not respond, no way to see any logging of messed up interrupt servicing
[22:25] <klasikahl> n8tuser: i responded to your question in ##networking
[22:25] <mustangg> nikrud - guess the bot doesn't like me.. could you - ?
[22:25] <stragerLN> ad1: Yes
[22:25] <Unguided> does anyone know if MSI P43 Neo3-F works out of the box
[22:26] <ryanprior> n8tuser: I'm not sure what you are saying.
[22:26] <ad1> stragerLN | thanks
[22:26] <Jooobaa> Anyone around to help with a ubuntu 8.10 toshiba a70 sound problem? had been running fine for 4 months then after a reboot no sound?
[22:26] <stragerLN> ad1: (Make sure the directory /media/windows exists and is empty)
[22:26] <nikrud> mustangg, you get a pm from ubottu?
[22:26] <IndyGunFreak> Unguided: does what work out of the box?.. everything?
[22:26] <stragerLN> Unguided: I am sure most modern motherboards are supported OOTB...
[22:26] <stragerLN> Unguided: And if not, kernel flags will help
[22:26] <ad1> ok
[22:26] <stragerLN> Unguided: (See Google)
[22:27] <Jooobaa> Anyone around to help with a ubuntu 8.10 toshiba a70 sound problem? had been running fine for 4 months then after a reboot no sound?
[22:27] <Unguided> StragerLN: New to linux. what is a kernel flag
[22:27] <n8tuser> ryanprior -> well, i can not explain to you in short period what interrupt servicing is.. its so low level.. assembly language or c programming
[22:27] <nDuff> Unguided, an option given to the kernel through your bootloader
[22:27] <Unguided> ok
[22:27] <IndyGunFreak> Unguided: but that should really be unecessary, i'm guessing it will work fine.. just boot a live CD and test everything
[22:28] <mustangg> nikrud - not so far
[22:28] <nikrud> !ubottu
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> Unguided: are you using the onboard video on it, or a video card
[22:29] <mustangg> nikrud - good enough thanks.
[22:29] <Jooobaa> Anyone around to help with a ubuntu 8.10 toshiba a70 sound problem? had been running fine for 4 months then after a reboot no sound?
[22:29] <Unguided> IndyGunFreak: I ahvent bought the board yet. It is for changing over to ubuntu just didnt want any headaches out of the box.
[22:29] <ryanprior> n8tuser: The thing is, I'm not a kernel hacker (yet; I'm a student of computer engineering so I'll get there) and I want to aide people in the know to understand what problem I'm having. "It crashes hard" is terribly non-specific. Is there no possible way to find out what's happening without being an expert? Should I just shut down my computer every time I'm done using it?
[22:29] <Javier> hello, i've got a huge problem, i cannot boot into ubuntu (8.10) with both of my hard disks connected.. ab error keeps appearing
[22:29] <IndyGunFreak> Unguided: oh i see, that makes sense.. well, google doesn't seem to turn up any people posting problems w/ that board.. so thats prolly good.
[22:30] <Jooobaa> Anyone around to help with a ubuntu 8.10 toshiba a70 sound problem? had been running fine for 4 months then after a reboot no sound?
[22:30] <Javier> please help
[22:30] <kalou_> je comprend rien
[22:30] <Shadow_X> so im having a pain trying to get my wifi working in Ubuntu :/
[22:30] <Javier> i0ve got all of my data in there
[22:30] <klasikahl> kalou_: #ubuntu-yourlanguage
[22:30] <NeoMatrixJR> can anyone help me with a SATA drive issue?  http://www.pcmodcentral.com/dmesg.txt
[22:30] <Unguided> IndyGunFreak: K. Its a toss up btwn the MSI or the gigabyte ep45-ud3p
[22:31] <beoba> hi, does ubuntu still have xorg.conf?
[22:31] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[22:31] <klasikahl> heh
[22:31] <beoba> good
[22:31] <NeoMatrixJR> Javier: repeat question....
[22:31] <klasikahl> how else would xserver know what to do
[22:31] <Jooobaa> Anyone around to help with a ubuntu 8.10 toshiba a70 sound problem? had been running fine for 4 months then after a reboot no sound?
[22:31] <Wicked> im system>admin>services...how come not all the start up services are shown?...and is there a diffrent program that will show them all?
[22:32] <plazia> join #php
[22:32] <plazia> woops sorry
[22:32] <beoba> does anyone know if 9.04 will include xorg.conf? ill probably wait until that's out to switch
[22:32] <klasikahl> Wicked: they're in /etc/rcN/
[22:32] <Javier> ok, ive got a problem i canno boot into ubuntu with both of hard disks connected.. an error keeps appearing i'll tell you the error right away.. wait a sec plz
[22:32] <NeoMatrixJR> beoba: to be more concise 8.10 is using something else (i forget what), but still has xorg.conf too
[22:32] <klasikahl> Wicked: update-rc.d is the command to add/remove services frmo runlevels
[22:33] <Wicked> klasikahl, ok. any idea what the syntax would be to list all services. and to stop a service from starting?
[22:33] <klasikahl> Wicked: i'm not sure about listing them all besides ls /etc/rc*... update-rc.d -f SERVICE remove
[22:33] <klasikahl> will delete it
[22:33] <klasikahl> IIRC
[22:33] <klasikahl> Wicked: i'd suggest reading the manpage... `man update-rc.d`
[22:34] <Wicked> hm. i dont want to delete it really. i just want to start it from starting all the time..but in the future i may need it to auto start again.
[22:34] <joanki123> is there any software that can help me know if someone has hacked into my computer?
[22:35] <Jooobaa> rootkit hunter
[22:35] <Jooobaa> strings sshd
[22:35] <linny1> joanki123: what makes you think someone has its very unlikly
[22:35] <Wicked> !hacked
[22:35] <Wicked> !rootkit
[22:36] <pike_> Wicked: sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove. just google update-rc.d ubuntu for syntax and stuff but that will work
[22:36] <NeoMatrixJR> help...SATA?  http://www.pcmodcentral.com/dmesg.txt
[22:36] <_VIM_> joanki123: maybe look at logs in /var/log
[22:36] <Wicked> hmm. theres rkhunter and chkrootkit
[22:36] <joanki123> linny1: because i igave someone access to it
[22:36] <Wicked> pike_, ok ill go try that. thanks
[22:36] <pike_> Wicked: or chmod -x /etc/init.d/scriptname  then you can just make it executable again later
[22:36] <Jooobaa> Anyone around to help with a ubuntu 8.10 toshiba a70 sound problem? had been running fine for 4 months then after a reboot no sound?
[22:36] <Wicked> ah
[22:36] <klasikahl> Wicked: so re add it when you need it
[22:36] <joanki123> _VIM_: ok so i am here
[22:37] <joanki123> which file?
[22:37] <Javier> jooobaa: try the alsa configuration
[22:37] <_VIM_> joanki123: I'd look at them all :)
[22:37] <Jooobaa> cb@zomg:~$ alsamixer
[22:37] <Jooobaa> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[22:37] <joanki123> _VIM_: there are dozens and dozens
[22:37] <_VIM_> use VIM too *cough* *points to my nick* good editor :)
[22:38] <Javier> here's my problem i canno boot with both of my hard drives.. this is what comes up when u try, hel plz i've got all of my data in there http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5215/06022009069kj6.jpg
[22:38] <joanki123> _VIM_: surely one of these must be the log
[22:39] <joanki123> once i've installed rootkit, how do i make it run?
[22:39] <_VIM_> joanki123: let me find that log one sec
[22:40] <_VIM_> joanki123: possibly 'syslog' and 'authlog' maybe 'user' log too
[22:40] <_VIM_> that narrows it down a bit :)
[22:40] <skorasaurus> !backup
[22:40] <Unguided> Guys Thanks for all of your help. TTYL.
[22:41] <linny1> Javier: does your bios see your disks correctly ?
[22:41] <skorasaurus> !cloning
[22:41] <joanki123> how do i run rootkit?
[22:41] <joanki123> thanks _VIM_
[22:41] <_VIM_> skorasaurus: use sbackup it's really nice, then you'll see it in the menu
[22:41] <_VIM_> joanki123: np :)
[22:41] <Javier> linny1. i'll check thar right way ; brb
[22:41] <pike_> Javier: this is why uuids cause more trouble than anything :)
[22:41] <Javier> pike_ :what do you mean
[22:42] <Javier> brb
[22:42] <skorasaurus> _VIM_, ty
[22:42] <dibblego> hello, I want to buy a soundcard and 2.1 speaker system for my ubuntu 8.04 system - should I expect much hassle?
[22:42] <_VIM_> skorasaurus: you should see it under System>Admin>simple backup config
[22:43] <WaltzingAlong> dibblego: of course not
[22:43] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[22:43] <skorasaurus> _VIM_, i'm resizing my windows partition (on the same physical HD as my linux partition), so I'm going to 'clone' everything to my external HD, and then resize.
[22:43] <pike_> dibblego: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  id check the soundcard here
[22:43] <dibblego> pike_, thanks
[22:43] <ryanprior> dibblego: Just don't buy a Creative card with X-Fi audio, as it's not supported yet.
[22:43] <iShock> !info bzflag
[22:43] <_VIM_> skorasaurus: ok sbackup wont do that, skorasaurus you need Clonezilla
[22:43] <ryanprior> dibblego: If you go with an older SoundBlaster Audigy card, you'll have no problem.
[22:43] <dibblego> ryanprior, lucky, I was going to
[22:44] <_VIM_> skorasaurus: clonezilla is very dangerious so be aware use at your own risk
[22:44] <skorasaurus> k.
[22:44] <skorasaurus> is that the best to do it ?
[22:45] <digitalvectorz> hey;  how do i find out what files (lsof) is using the using/locking the alsa sound driver?
[22:45] <_VIM_> well its' just a front end to dd
[22:45] <joanki123> i'm running rootkit and it gets a ton of warnings....
[22:45] <dibblego> can my NVIDIA MCP51 onboard 3-port soundcard somehow support 2.1 speakers?
[22:45] <linny1> joanki123: maybe a backup and a fresh install is in order ?
[22:45] <Shock> digitalvectorz: you look what locks files with "dsp" or "pcm" in the name
[22:46] <joanki123> i would but i have a TON of libraries ot install
[22:46] <joanki123> linny1 can i ask you a q in msg
[22:46] <_VIM_> skorasaurus: you can try googling for "Norton ghost alternative" see what comes up...
[22:46] <joanki123> ?
[22:46] <linny1> sure
[22:46] <nDuff> skorasaurus, try PartImage
[22:46] <ortsvorsteher> !netsplit
[22:46] <_VIM_> nDuff: thanks, that's the one i was trying to think of :)
[22:47] <nDuff> digitalvectorz, you might consider fuser in place of lsof, since you know which files' users you're trying to find
[22:48] <Pirate_Hunter> !widget
[22:48] <Pirate_Hunter> !widgets
[22:48] <exodus_ms> having probllems with my keyyyboooard <  does anyone knoww  how to fix thiiis? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/99356
[22:48] <digitalvectorz> hrm; neither of those two worked @ Shock...so my sound worked before i left for class, i had the program opened while i was away; and i come back and closed that program and can't get sound cept when i restart :-\.
[22:48] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the command for the bot to list all current available widgets?
[22:48] <_VIM_> Pirate_Hunter: pm the bot it's better for looking up commands that might not exist :)
[22:48] <Shock> digitalvectorz: paste the output of lsof in a pastebin
[22:49] <_VIM_> otherwise you're !fishing :P
[22:49] <Pirate_Hunter> _VIM_: thanks for that unhelpful remark you must be feeling proud
[22:49] <skorasaurus> nduff, thanks.
[22:49] <_VIM_> Pirate_Hunter: ah I meant well :(
[22:49] <matteo> see any youtube videos on either mozilla or opera... Any tips?
[22:49] <_VIM_> hence the smile ;)
[22:49] <matteo> flashplugin non free, and all worked fine since 2 days ago... I can't
[22:49] <XDS2010> 17:49.31	XDS2010	http://www.mahalo.com/answers/web-development/can-i-keep-ssh-files-from-being-nonprejudice-when-it-comes-to-local-and-remote-files-inter-mingling 17:49.41	XDS2010	6$ for someone who can answer this 17:49.52	XDS2010	Files can have 0 interaction 17:50.02	XDS2010	(for each handshake) 17:50.11	XDS2010	It doesn't matter what im doing on the host
[22:49] <matteo> Hi all, i am having problems with flash on mozilla and opera.. i know
[22:50] <nesta_> Bonsoir
[22:50] <rakudave> !screenlets | Pirate_Hunter
[22:50] <skorasaurus> ~fr
[22:50] <skorasaurus> !fr
[22:50] <nesta_> Je cherche une ligne pour permettre le lancement d'un script au boot
[22:50] <exodus_ms> _VIM_: do you know anything about this --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/39315 I'm hhaving the same problem on 8.10
[22:50] <skorasaurus> nesta, il y a un canal pour francais, seulement, c'est #ubuntu-fr
[22:51] <_VIM_> exodus_ms: dont ask me, ask the channel :)
[22:51] <Pirate_Hunter> rakudave: thanks I was hoping to find other widgets i've tried screenlets and gdekslets arent there any others?
[22:51] <_VIM_> exodus_ms: I dont have 8.10 so i would be of no use
[22:51] <redvamp128> Pirate_Hunter:  Have you tried -- Google Gadgets?
[22:51] <exodus_ms> _VIM_: i did ask the channel, I had helped you before, was just curoius if you  could return the favor :)
[22:51] <etech> hi
[22:51] <rakudave> Pirate_Hunter: well, there are the ones from google which run on linux, but it's google so be careful ^^
[22:52] <etech> i just tried a mandriva liveCD, the one 2009 with gnome
[22:52] <HarassmentPanda_> Has any one had issues with saving changes to network configuration when going from DHCP to a static IP? I can make the change but it doesn't commit
[22:52] <redvamp128> actually they run rather well--- they run with gtk
[22:52] <_VIM_> exodus_ms: I will gladly return the favor, if i knew the answer and if it doe3snt have anything to do with 8.10 ;)
[22:52] <etech> and gnome and compiz fusion were EXTREMLY fast compared to ubuntu
[22:52] <etech> same driver + same hardware
[22:52] <exodus_ms> _VIM_: cool, it;s not so much 8.10 as it is aaa kernel bug
[22:52] <etech> does this come from special settings in the xorg.conf?
[22:52] <XDS2010> http://www.mahalo.com/answers/web-development/can-i-keep-ssh-files-from-being-nonprejudice-when-it-comes-to-local-and-remote-files-inter-mingling
[22:53] <_VIM_> I should get an 8.10 VM that way I could help more
[22:53] <redvamp128> Pirate_Hunter:  Google Gadgets <http://www.getdeb.net/app/Google+Gadgets> that is a link to getdeb about the software and the deb to get it.
[22:53] <XDS2010> 6$ for the person or persons who can answer the above question.
[22:53] <Pirate_Hunter> rakudave: nah i dont want google ones, i kinda feel disapointed there arent any more types of widgets, oh well
[22:53] <crdlb> etech: don't you think it would be worth mentioning what GPU you have?
[22:53] <etech> Geforce 8400 GS
[22:54] <redvamp128> Pirate_Hunter:  there are a few more-- some are found on restricted packages-- as well as some hidden ones I found on ubuntu unleashed
[22:54] <plazia> can someone tell me if there is a known problem with firefox being so slow and unresponsive in terms of GUI rendering/redrawn (not network) and if it's a conflict with the nvidia display driver or something? every other gtk app is fine. but the menus in firefox are taking the proverbial pee.
[22:55] <rakudave> Pirate_Hunter: there are 3 kinds, how many more would you want ;-) you can always code them yourself if you feel like something's missing ^^
[22:55] <_VIM_> exodus_ms: I could help with researching since no one else seems to be assisting you,
[22:55] <plazia> I ran xp inside virtualbox.. and the firefox in that was more responsive and that was a virtual machine!
[22:55] <Pirate_Hunter> redvamp12: ubuntu unleashed? geez what version is that... ahhh
[22:55] <redvamp128> Pirate_Hunter:  -- here is link to medibuntu -- Medibuntu -- Medibuntu packages <http://packages.medibuntu.org/> they have the more restricted addons there-
[22:56] <Pirate_Hunter> rakudave: true say if I knew how im concentrating on other stuff lately so no unnecessary coding
[22:56] <redvamp128> Pirate_Hunter:  Ubuntu unleashed is a website... Ubuntu Unleashed: Some Gnome Panel Applets you may not know about! <http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/05/some-gnome-panel-applets-you-may-not.html>
[22:56] <crdlb> plazia: well, firefox isn't really a gtk app
[22:56] <rakudave> Pirate_Hunter: have you looked at the 3rd party screenlets at http://screenlets.org/index.php/Category:UserScreenlets ?
[22:56] <Pirate_Hunter> redvamp128: ok thanks that is new to me will google it
[22:57] <plazia> crdlb, yeah I kinda figured. I know it seems to render some gtk widgets since when I change gtk theme it changes accordignly in firefox but it might just be tracking the theme change. it's just really frustrating me.
[22:57] <crdlb> etech: are you using compiz via the Visual Effects panel?
[22:57] <plazia> there's like 100 millisecond delay just mouse-overing menu items in the bookmarks before they are highlighted.
[22:57] <_lbet> hello. How can I set a locale which is different from the system language? I want my language to be English, but use european number and date formats (dd.mm.yyyy , etc)
[22:57] <Pirate_Hunter> rakudave: yeah i have out of them only found 5 to be useful (well it was actually 3 :p)
[22:57] <rakudave> Pirate_Hunter: ok ok... :-)
[22:58] <graft> hiya - so i'm trying to run vista in virtualbox with a NIC - when I specify one of the Intel NICs (82540EM) in VBoxGtk, it tells me "Invalid NIC type specified"
[22:58] <etech> crdlb, what is  this?
[22:58] <graft> any clue what's up?
[22:58] <SEVILLA> hey if im trying to change my  menu theme where do i install my download
[22:58] <euxneks> graft, what tells you that? VB or Vista?
[22:58] <graft> euxneks: VB tells me that
[22:59] <graft> euxneks: the AMD NICs work, but Vista doesn't support them :)
[22:59] <euxneks> graft, heheh
[22:59] <_VIM_> exodus_ms: obvious question maybe, but have you tried any of the solutions from any of the people that have commented on that site?
[22:59] <crdlb> etech: system > preferences > appearance > visual effects; if you haven't done anything, then you are
[22:59] <euxneks> graft, crap I don't have VB on this machine
[22:59] <graft> actually i suspect it's vboxgtk that is at fault here
[23:00] <etech> crdlb, yes i activated it there
[23:00] <etech> crdlb, on the mandriva livecd i could activate it before gnome started
[23:01] <redvamp128> Pirate_Hunter:  though there are some others at mediabuntu
[23:01] <Javier> you' were right the bios doesn't detect the hard disk drive
[23:01] <redvamp128> Pirate_Hunter:  Medibuntu -- Medibuntu packages <http://packages.medibuntu.org/>
[23:01] <jjvideo25> i
[23:02] <perillux> can I add ram to a system or do you have to replace it?  meaning if I buy 2GB of ram, can I buy another 2GB or ram and connect them to have 4GB?
[23:02] <klasikahl> perillux: if you have open DIMMs..
[23:02] <etech> when i change something in the xorg.conf, do i need to reboot or is it ok to restart X ?
[23:02] <klasikahl> restart X etech
[23:02] <bastid_raZor> etech; just restart x
[23:02] <_VIM_> reboot is a windows concept, rarely needed in Linux
[23:03] <klasikahl> whatever happned to testing hypotheses
[23:03] <perillux> klasikahl: I'm not sure if it does, I'm actually looking to build my own computer so I'm just looking at ram online.
[23:03] <nikrud> etech, as long as what you've done doesn't include a new video card kernel module ....
[23:03] <Syzothermy> Network-manager wont automatically reconnect in Ubuntu 8.10 after disconnecting, which is kind of annoying for downloads. "automatically reconnect" doesn't actually automatically reconnect. Anyone know how to fix it?
[23:03] <etech> ok
[23:04] <mjc> nikrud: that would still even work, just kill X, rmmod, modprobe, start X again
[23:04] <klasikahl> mjc: may need a depmod in there
[23:04] <nikrud> mjc, that's not 'just an xorg.change ;)
[23:04] <_lbet> How can I set a locale which is different from the system language? I want my language to be English, but use european number and date formats (dd.mm.yyyy , etc)
[23:04] <mjc> nikrud: good point, but still doesn't require a reboot
[23:04] <mjc> klasikahl: likely apt would take care of that for you
[23:05] <klasikahl> heh.  you know, you can compile a kernel without apt...
[23:05] <klasikahl> s/apt/dpkg/
[23:05] <atari2600a> what's the name of the applet that by default shuts down / restarts
[23:05] <nikrud> mjc, that also includes completely stopping X, etc. But we're almost to the point of writing a complete howto :)
[23:05] <atari2600a> the one I thing integrated into Pidgin
[23:05] <atari2600a> I accidentaly deleted it
[23:05] <atari2600a> & I can't find it
[23:05] <mjc> nikrud: heh
[23:06] <guntbert> _lbet: I did it step by step, choose english for language, german keyboard, later then other formats
[23:06] <mjc> klasikahl: yes, but that doesn't mean it makes sense to suggest one do so, most of the time :)
[23:06] <Doonz> i have a question. how do i permenatly map a shared folder on a ubunt desktop. its a shared folder on a ubuntu server
[23:06] <matteo> i can't see any youtube videos on mozilla... Any tips? All worked fine since 2 days ago... HELP!! :D
[23:06] <mjc> !flash
[23:06] <atari2600a> hello?
[23:06] <mjc> hmm.
[23:07] <Flare183> !patience | ata
[23:07] <Flare183> oops
[23:07] <mjc> matteo: see that page
[23:07] <Flare183> !patience | atari2600a
[23:07] <klasikahl> mjc: well if you're changing options for kernel modules, you're definitely not apt-getting a new linux image... and AFAIK installing a new image and headers doesn't depmod because depmod is used to rescan current modules
[23:07] <atari2600a> I just said hello!
[23:07] <atari2600a> wtf!
[23:07] <klasikahl> but i'm being pedant
[23:08] <guntbert> !language | atari2600a
[23:08] <mjc> klasikahl: if you are going from nv -> nvidia or similar for ati (the most common x.org edit), it does a depmod after it compiles the nvidia/ati module, whether you installed your current kernel by hand or not
[23:08] <Syzothermy> Network-manager wont automatically reconnect in Ubuntu 8.10 after disconnecting, which is kind of annoying for downloads. "automatically reconnect" doesn't actually automatically reconnect. Anyone know how to fix it?
[23:08] <klasikahl> what??
[23:09] <matteo> i have installed flashplugin but i cant see any videos since 2 days
[23:09] <matteo> :S
[23:09] <slusk88> My powermizer level wont go above 1 have Nvidia 9600M GT card using 177.82 driver. Ubuntu 8.10 any help?
[23:09] <klasikahl> that makes no sense.... if it's compiling a module against headers, like installing a new package as a module, sure it will depmod...
[23:09] <klasikahl> idk, i come from a land where people compile their own kernels and don't use initrd
[23:09] <klasikahl> :)
[23:10] <guntbert> klasikahl: don't you think you are drifting toward off topic?
[23:10] <mjc> klasikahl: I do as well :P
[23:10] <_lbet> guntbert: thanx. I did set my keyboard to DE during installation, and timezone was set to Berlin, so that is working. However, I chosed English as language and now I have dates in US-format (mm/dd/yy). Doing a "locale" in a terminal tells me that everything is set to en_US...   Is there a gui-way to change it, or do I have to set all the variables (where???)  NOTE: I want to keep language EN. I only want to change the rest
[23:10] <klasikahl> guntbert: not at all :D
[23:10] <bundzc1> how do i add windows 7 to the grub menu ?
[23:11] <klasikahl> guntbert: in a channel where j/ps are more common than chatting.... well i think a little kernel utility discussion helps to keep things elevated
[23:11] <bundzc1> i used the live cd to reload grub, but there is no win7
[23:11] <klasikahl> :)
[23:11] <sparr> im considering moving back to debian.  it seems like ubuntu puts a lot less work into package upgrades than into the state of fresh installs...  after seven upgrades or so im starting to encounter more and more problems with each one, and getting to enjoy less and less of the new features out of the box
[23:11] <etech> i installed openoffice 3 from the ppa
[23:11] <bundzc1> how do i add windows 7 to the grub menu ?
[23:12] <klasikahl> bundzc1: http://tinyurl.com/anhkc6
[23:12] <etech> can i know disable the ppa or wil there be bugfixes and oher updates in the future?
[23:12] <mjc> klasikahl: :D
[23:12] <klasikahl> mjc: i love that site.
[23:12] <atari2600a> okay I asked my question well over 5 minutes ago & I still haven't recieved an answer
[23:12] <slusk88> My powermizer level wont go above 1 have Nvidia 9600M GT card using 177.82 driver. Ubuntu 8.10 any help?
[23:12] <atari2600a> you guys suck
[23:12] <atari2600a> major ass
[23:12] <matteo> i can't see any youtube videos on mozilla... Any tips? All worked fine since 2 days ago... HELP!! :D
[23:12] <klasikahl> atari2600a: it's possible no one knows the answer
[23:12] <meyou> atari2600a: demand a refund
[23:12] <meyou> imo
[23:12] <guntbert> _lbet: sorry, that is about my state too, but I'm contented with that
[23:13] <guntbert> klasikahl: :)
[23:13] <Besogon> bundzc1: May be like winXP or Vista you can do that
[23:13] <Syzothermy> Network-manager wont automatically reconnect in Ubuntu 8.10 after disconnecting, which is kind of annoying for downloads. "automatically reconnect" doesn't actually automatically reconnect. Anyone know how to fix it?
[23:13] <klasikahl> sparr: like what kind of problems?  i must say that upgrades are about as smooth as butter
[23:14] <Doonz> i have a question. how do i permenatly map a shared folder on a ubunt desktop. its a shared folder on a ubuntu server
[23:14] <klasikahl> Doonz: /etc/fstab
[23:14] <skybound> _lbet: i haven't tried this, but maybe this works for the LC_* settings as well: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/01/how-to-change-your-default-locale-on.html ?
[23:14] <klasikahl> Doonz: man fstab is helpful.
[23:14] <Doonz> ok thanx
[23:14] <perillux> I'm trying to buy ram.  But I'm not sure what to get.  I see 4GB of DDR2 ram and it says "Memory Speed:  800MHz PC6400"  "Memory CAS Latency:  5-4-4-15"    Then I see only 2GB of ram but it has  "Memory Speed:  2000MHz PC16000"  "Memory CAS Latency:  9-9-9-28"    I have no idea how to compare them, should I go with the more expensive 2GB one or the cheaper 4GB?  I also don't mind buying 2 of the 2GB one so I'd like to know if I would be ab
[23:14] <perillux> also the 2GB ram is DDR3
[23:15] <mjc> DDR3 will not work in a DDR2 board
[23:15] <klasikahl> perillux: lower cas = better.  it's also better to have even number of banks filled, called interleaving
[23:15] <mjc> memory timings are generally insignificant to the performance of most machines
[23:16] <tonsofpcs> is there a way I can mount a SMB share?
[23:16] <mjc> perillux: PC2-6400 or DDR2 800 is what you need
[23:16] <mjc> perillux: if thats what your motherboard says
[23:16] <_dbd_l12> Syzothermy: have you perhaps set your network configuration manually in /etc/network/interfaces? I remember a bug with dhclient which in some scenario's could result in a gnome-network-manager related problem. Do you have more info as to when your problem started
[23:16] <klasikahl> tonsofpcs: of course... i'd suggest you ask google as there is a plethora of documention on such things
[23:16] <mjc> perillux: if not, then go by what your motherboard says
[23:16] <mib_h56sjgvn> Doonz  use an fstab entry
[23:16] <uplinked> hi, i just installed 8.04.1, and my system only reports 3gb of ram (i have 4gb installed). is this because i'm using 32bit?
[23:16] <mib_h56sjgvn> tonsofpcs fstab entry
[23:17] <tonsofpcs> thanks mib_h56sjgvn
[23:17] <_VIM_> uplinked: yes
[23:17] <klasikahl> lol, fstab entry alone is not enough
[23:17] <klasikahl> but ok
[23:17] <_VIM_> you need 64 bit
[23:17] <uplinked> _VIM_ is there any way to upgrade, or do i need to reinstall?
[23:17] <tonsofpcs> klasikahl: yea, i just ended up searching and found smbmount :)
[23:17] <Syzothermy> _dbd_l12 : I haven't, and it's always been like this, I just never bothered until now to ask
[23:17] <klasikahl> uplinked: you do not need 64bit... you need PAE-enabled kernel though
[23:17] <_VIM_> reinstall
[23:17] <perillux> mjc: I'm building a computer so I havn't chosen a motherboard yet.  I'm going to decide on that after I have all other components so I make sure it works.  I'm not concerned with money, I want the best possible ram, around 4-6GB
[23:17] <Myxb> i need to start a gtk app with color theme other than the system default. how do i do that?
[23:17] <Syzothermy> I've had this install for about a week or two
[23:17] <klasikahl> _VIM_: that's not entirely correct.  PAE will allow him to see all his RAM
[23:17] <mjc> perillux: you need to find out what motherboard you want first.
[23:18] <_dbd_l12> Syzothermy: is this wireless or wired network?
[23:18] <klasikahl> _VIM_: physical address extension
[23:18] <compilerwriter> I thought ubuntu and kubuntu were supposed to automount cdroms when media were put in the drives these days?  My machine is not doing that what must I do?  I think I need to do something with /etc/fstab or some such but can't recall exactly.
[23:18] <Syzothermy> wireless
[23:18] <perillux> mjc: but that would limit my choices
[23:18] <uplinked> klasikahl: how do i get PAE kernel?
[23:18] <mjc> perillux: that is exactly the point
[23:18] <mjc> perillux: I would suggest waiting until core i7 mainboards are a little cheaper anyway
[23:18] <klasikahl> uplinked: if you want to grab it without effort, the server kernel is PAE enabled
[23:19] <Syzothermy> Whenever it disconnects, it just asks for the key after a while, instead of automatically trying it
[23:19] <Besogon> compilerwriter: You should learn UDEV!!
[23:19] <Myxb> i need to start a gtk app with a color theme other than the system default. how do i do that?
[23:19] <plazia> Syzothermy, I have the same problem.
[23:19] <uplinked> klasikahl: is there any reason i should install 64bit instead of just the PAE kernel? i'm on a core 2 duo E7300
[23:19] <Syzothermy> and then I click "connect" and it still does nothing
[23:19] <klasikahl> uplinked: i'm ntos ure if you have to specify the version number to properly install the image, but apt-get install linux-image-server may work fine
[23:19] <_dbd_l12> Syzothermy: WEP/WAP ?  Are you using ndiswrapper/don't know (it worked out of the box)
[23:19] <mjc> perillux: the point is that your motherboard and CPU combination determine which RAM you need
[23:19] <plazia> sometimes randomly disconnected from wireless and then it asks for the key despite the fact I've entered and saved the correct key.
[23:19] <klasikahl> uplinked: 64bit will require a fresh system install.  the benefits are negligable.
[23:20] <Syzothermy> wep, and it's an RTL8180 driver that worked out of the box
[23:20] <throughput> hi
[23:20] <mjc> perillux: if you get a triple channel board and a core i7, then you must install exactly 3,6 or 9 sticks
[23:20] <uplinked> klasikahl: cool, thanks, installing linux-image-server now :)
[23:20] <mjc> perillux: if you get a dual channel board hten you need to install them in pairs
[23:20] <perillux> mjc: the motherboard will specify that stuff right?
[23:20] <compilerwriter> Besogon ok udev that sounds vaguely familiar.  Can you point me straight to a tutorial link or should googling it get the job done?
[23:20] <_VIM_> lol uplinked good luck with that
[23:20] <throughput> i have a problem with ubuntu 8.10 in the boot
[23:20] <mjc> perillux: if you get DDR2 motherboard then you need DDR2, if you get a DDR3 motherboard you need DDR3
[23:20] <mjc> perillux: yes
[23:20] <throughput> the boot is very slow
[23:20] <loner269> whats up with flash10 it dont let me use my cam an 9 did
[23:20] <klasikahl> compilerwriter: you can even `man udev`
[23:20] <plazia> Syzothermy, I'm using wpa and getting the same problem. rtl8187 I think
[23:21] <Syzothermy> (06:19:31 PM) Syzothermy: and then I click "connect" and it still does nothing <-- and then I have to manually go to network-manager and click on my AP and then it's fine
[23:21] <loner269> how do i go back to 9
[23:21] <uplinked> _VIM_: i take it you disagree?
[23:21] <throughput> 5 minute for loading!
[23:21] <mjc> perillux: anandtech.com, tomshardware generally have competent reviews of mainboards, processors, memory, etc.
[23:21] <guntbert> compilerwriter: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/nethub/article.php/3635686
[23:21] <Syzothermy> think it's all rtl's, plazia?
[23:21] <mjc> doh
[23:21] <klasikahl> uplinked: trust me on this one.  i speak from (tons of) experience
[23:21] <bundzc1> how do i add windows 7 to the grub menu ?
[23:21] <compilerwriter> thanks guntbert
[23:21] <klasikahl> bundzc1: http://tinyurl.com/anhkc6
[23:21] <klasikahl> once again
[23:21] <mjc> perillux: there's even a core i7 buyers guide on the front page of anandtech
[23:21] <klasikahl> sheesh
[23:22] <loner269> never mind ill just reinstall my 8.4 screwit
[23:22] <plazia> Syzothermy,  I did iwspy or iwevent or something and saw some funky stuff in there something like "custom driver event" and then a bunch of hex crap after. no idea.
[23:22] <slusk88> My powermizer level wont go above 1 have Nvidia 9600M GT card using 177.82 driver. Ubuntu 8.10 any help?
[23:22] <bundzc1> klasikahl: there's notheing there that worked
[23:22] <_VIM_> uplinked: yes I sit in here about 12 hours a day, ive never seen klasikahl before, and ive seen several peopel in here say you need 64 bit OS to use anything over 3 gigs ...
[23:22] <AslanMan> Hi, any one knows an easy and good program for video editing?
[23:22] <guntbert> compilerwriter: yw, found it half an hour ago in this channel :))
[23:22] <klasikahl> bundzc1: you need to edit your menu.lst.  clearly nothing is going to automate this process.
[23:22] <perillux> mjc: is ram speed really that important?  I see some that are like 800mhz and others that are a lot higher  1600-2000?  should I shoot for a higher speed?  Also I want lower cas, but what do the numbers mean?  9-9-9-28 for example.    and thanks for all the help I'll check out anandtech now.
[23:22] <Besogon> compilerwriter: sorry, Im bad at this suggest. But I know UDEV  have rules for mounting many devices.
[23:23] <mjc> perillux: CAS is pretty much pointless to worry about for 99.999% of the population.
[23:23] <bundzc1> klasikahl: i've edited it 5 times allready
[23:23] <Syzothermy> iwspy doesnt work on mine, trying iwevent
[23:23] <uplinked> _VIM_: well, good thing i still have my install disk on hand. i'll let you know how it works out.
[23:23] <graft> figured out my virtualbox problem - there are guest additions for vista that include the appropriate AMD drivers
[23:23] <klasikahl> bundzc1: then you're probably not doing it correctly.  does it appear in the menu?
[23:23] <mjc> perillux: just pick a mainboard based on the guides at places like tomshardware or anandteech and it will tell you what kind of RAM you need
[23:23] <plazia> perillux, ram latency and bandwidth are important to an extent but if you look at benchmarks for games and other things you'll see you pay a large premuim for such things for a small payoff in performance.
[23:23] <Syzothermy> iwevent just sits there
[23:23] <bundzc1> klasikahl: no. u have to add it urself
[23:23] <klasikahl> _VIM_: you're an idiot.
[23:23] <_VIM_> thanks for the insult ;)
[23:24] <bundzc1> klasikahl: but every solution i googled didn't really work
[23:24] <_dbd_l12> Syzothermy: well id' try to put the wireless config into the /etc/network/interfaces file (make a backup file first, as always) --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1884945&mode=threaded#post1884945
[23:24] <tritium> klasikahl: none of that, please
[23:24] <klasikahl> tritium: thanks mom
[23:24] <klasikahl> _VIM_: you're providing people with inaccurate information and swearing by it
[23:24] <_VIM_> and you're not?
[23:24] <klasikahl> no, i am not
[23:24] <klasikahl> my information is accurate
[23:24] <_VIM_> ok whateever
[23:24] <plazia> chill out guys :)
[23:24] <_VIM_> im sure it is
[23:24] <tritium> klasikahl: warning
[23:24] <klasikahl> _VIM_: http://kerneltrap.org/node/2450/7217
[23:25] <Syzothermy> thanks, i'll try it I guess and come back if there's still issues
[23:25] <klasikahl> tritium: i heard, and acknowledged you, the first time.
[23:25] <tritium> klasikahl: mockingly, hence the warning
[23:25] <blck> hi, does that work uid=0,55 (for to userids)?
[23:25] <klasikahl> tritium: oh indeed.
[23:26] <swatTX> can someone help me get beyond 800x600 screen resolution?
[23:26] <AslanMan> Hi, any one knows an easy and good program for video editing?
[23:26] <nicolas> #ubuntu-fr
[23:26] <klasikahl> _VIM_: http://pnaplinux.blogspot.com/2008/11/physical-address-extension-pae.html there is another one, more concise this time
[23:26] <nonvottedboy> hello
[23:27] <klasikahl> _VIM_: and for future reference, i only answer questions when i'm bored.  but i do speak from experience, as i was a developer for several distros in the past
[23:27] <carlitos__> hi  all
[23:27] <mjc> klasikahl: PAE is a nasty, terrible hack though
[23:27] <carlitos__> need  heklp ,   can   anyone  help me out
[23:27] <mjc> on 32bit, at least
[23:27] <klasikahl> i've never had any problems with it, performance or otherwise
[23:27] <klasikahl> and we use it in produciton
[23:28] <mjc> klasikahl: bounce buffers = performance goes to the dogs
[23:28] <klasikahl> but i've never examined the code myself, so i'll take your word for it
[23:28] <_VIM_> mjc: just put him on ignore , I did ;)
[23:28] <plazia> I thought 32 bit meant you could access 4 gig. 2^32 being rougly 4 billion right? 4 gig of ram. ?
[23:28] <klasikahl> mjc: /me shrugs.  we use it in production on systems that regularly demand 6-8GB and they've been fine
[23:29] <mjc> plazia: 32bit can use up to 64GB if you use PAE, which is 36-bit addressing, but it has pretty big performance penalties
[23:29] <plazia> nice to know.
[23:29] <mjc> klasikahl: every time something wants to go beyond 4GB it has to map it into a bounce buffer, do a lookup, and then actually access it
[23:30] <plazia> so it incurs an overhead
[23:30] <swatTX> I can only get 800x600 max screen resolution... in xp i could get better than that... any help?
[23:30] <Mood> should i use microsoft's PPTP VPN server+client? or openVPN?
[23:30] <ace_1> plazia: that 4gb also includes video ram and motherboard adress space
[23:30] <plazia> ace_1, ah right.
[23:30] <plazia> nifty
[23:30] <plazia> of course.
[23:30] <Mood> i want a VPN solution that is simple, stable, and has group privileges
[23:31] <mjc> klasikahl: x86_64 is much preferred - no bounce buffers, hardware for remapping 32bit applications built into chipset, and you get double the GP registers and wider ones at that..
[23:31] <Jeaton> what is a good program to rip the audio from a movie?
[23:31] <SimplySeth> what's the name of the debugger ?
[23:32] <Andril> hello all
[23:32] <amberjon> hey
[23:32] <Andril> can anyone help with BusyBox v1.10.2 errors?
[23:33] <NeoMatrixJR> SATA help??? Brand new drives aren't working properly.  http://www.pcmodcentral.com/dmesg.txt
[23:33] <Ex3ExtraSLim> hi all
[23:34] <Andril> so is this my hard drive or dvd-rw?
[23:34] <gwark> hi folks..... I used to be able to access my ntfs partitions, now Ubuntu will only mount the Fat32 ones ...... can anyone help me please?
[23:34] <mun_> hi
[23:35] <mjc> klasikahl: PAE uses 2MB pages and a wider lookup table, but you have a lot more to keep track of regarding IPC, shmem, lots of TLB issues
[23:35] <Andril> NeoMatrixJR: is it my had drive or dvd-rw?
[23:35] <mun_> is there a Netlimiter-like program for ubuntu? i've tried trickle, but it doesn't seem to allow speed changes after the program has been open.
[23:35] <AslanMan> Hi, any one knows an easy and good program for video editing?
[23:35] <tritium> AslanMan: kino
[23:35] <Ex3ExtraSLim> anyone speak polish ?
[23:35] <amberjon> aslanman: tell me if you find out
[23:36] <guntbert> !pl | Ex3ExtraSLim
[23:36] <NeoMatrixJR> adnril, sorry, I'm asking a question of my own.
[23:36] <klasikahl> mjc: interesting perhaps more reading is warranted on my part, but i hadn't bothered previously for multiple reasons
[23:36] <NeoMatrixJR> andril..oops got it wrong on the last line...
[23:36] <Ex3ExtraSLim> ok dzieki
[23:36] <amberjon> and AslanMan, for some purposes, batch processing in GIMp may be very useful
[23:36] <Andril> anyone getting BusyBox v1.10.2 errors?
[23:36] <mjc> klasikahl: I'm hunting down some benchmarks for you but it's as much as 30%
[23:36] <mjc> klasikahl: on most hardware
[23:36] <Ex3ExtraSLim> bye bye all
[23:36] <NeoMatrixJR> andril, you didn't post the error. (use a pastebin if more than one line)
[23:36] <AslanMan> amberjon, GIMP ?
[23:36] <plazia> AslanMan, some links here. http://tinyurl.com/cno7c6
[23:37] <amberjon> gnu image manipulation program
[23:37] <gbrethen> anyone up to helping me get my webcam working under ubuntu 8.10?
[23:37] <guntbert> !anyone | Andril
[23:37] <mjc> klasikahl: whereas x86_64 generally sees 20-30% speedup against non-PAE alone in core i7 and amd
[23:37] <klasikahl> mjc: hrm interesting.... we've got a bunch of virtualized boxes that use PAE enabled kernels (paravirtualization requires a 32bit guest)
[23:37] <Pirate_Hunter> ok just tried google gadgets now how do i remove it, apparently even knowing i used the deb file it is not listed for removal (or i just cant find it), now how do I remove this app?
[23:37] <klasikahl> mjc: but the guests hardly ever consume more than 38xx (usable after taxes)... so perhaps it'd be worth it to remove the pae and just spawn more guests
[23:37] <Andril> i need help with BusyBox v1.10.2 errors
[23:37] <mjc> klasikahl: I'm using kvm just fine with a 64bit host and both 64 and 32 guests w/ kvm
[23:38] <ace_1> i have core i7
[23:38] <ace_1> 64bit helps out soo much
[23:38] <gbrethen> I need help with webcam
[23:38] <NeoMatrixJR> andril...you need to POST the errors.  That's WAY to general
[23:38] <klasikahl> mjc: vmware enterprise :)
[23:38] <mjc> klasikahl: iirc xxen on 64 works also
[23:38] <mjc> klasikahl: ah
[23:38] <guntbert> !cam | gbrethen
[23:38] <amberjon> i'm beginning to grow extremely pessimistic with this society
[23:38] <gbrethen> Creative Live! Cam Notebook pro
[23:38] <gbrethen> I screwed up
[23:38] <_dbd_l12> amberjon: why?
[23:39] <tritium> amberjon: please stay on topic
[23:39] <amberjon> deceit
[23:39] <plazia> amberjon, pessimists are merely optimists with experience.
[23:39] <amberjon> fine
[23:39] <gbrethen> I tried to install ov51x-jpeg
[23:39] <gbrethen> now it doesn't work
[23:39] <austin_> I would like to transfer files between one ubuntu machine to the next.  how would i go about doing this?
[23:39] <burkzzz> Quick question: Anything in /etc/init.d/ is run at boot - Correct?
[23:39] <amberjon> austin: SFTP, ideally
[23:39] <ace_1> mjc: i will vouch for that x86_64 speedup
[23:40] <klasikahl> burkzzz: incorrect... /etc/rc.N
[23:40] <gbrethen> I used easycam2 - the light comes on, but it can't find the device
[23:40] <burkzzz> klasikahl, Ah, excellent. Thank you.
[23:40] <_dbd_l12> austin_: ssh
[23:40] <tritium> ace_1: there is no speedup for 64-bit.  It just has a larger address space.
[23:40] <gbrethen> there is no /dev/video0 or /dev/video1
[23:40] <cousteau> which MIDI editor is easier? Rosegarden or MusE?
[23:40] <austin_> burkzzz: i wan't to get them on for a web server....is there a GUI for ssh, or do i use the terminal
[23:40] <amberjon> muse is simpler to set up, costeau
[23:40] <amberjon> cousteau
[23:40] <klasikahl> burkzzz: np... update-rc.d is the utility to change what runs on what runlevel
[23:40] <amberjon> they're not that different though
[23:41] <_dbd_l12> gbrethen: no /dev/video0 --> probably output in dmesg
[23:41] <ace_1> tritium:well for me when i was on 32bit applications would only use one core and on 64-bit the same applications spread out the load that is what i meant
[23:41] <amberjon> there's a page somewhere with a massive list of audio sequencing/MIDI editing programs
[23:41] <burkzzz> austin_, personal recommendation: if you want to work against a webserver, use sshfs. mounts the web-server as a local fs.
[23:41] <ST47> I get [ Error writing test: No space left on device ] from nano and every other program that saves files.
[23:41] <gbrethen> it worked with ekiga until I installed the ov51x-jpeg driver
[23:41] <cousteau> ok, thx amberjon
[23:41] <ST47> Which naturally makes nothing work.
[23:41] <monthlylove> ST47, are you sudo
[23:41] <burkzzz> klasikahl, Ty, much appreciated.
[23:41] <Pirate_Hunter> google-gadgets is beeing called by ggl-gtk but that is not listed in synatics, how do I go about removing it?
[23:41] <ST47> monthlylove: Nope
[23:41] <austin_> burkzzz: ??? local fs? I'm new to the whole linux thing, and don't understand the short's
[23:41] <klasikahl> yeah np
[23:41] <monthlylove> try it with higher authority
[23:41] <burkzzz> austin_, Well, can you SSH into the webserver?
[23:42] <Mood> why is openVPN not in the official Ubuntu VPN page?
[23:42] <ST47> Erm. That worked.
[23:42] <monthlylove> :)
[23:42] <ST47> But this is my /home
[23:42] <austin_> burkzzz: I assume so, I don't see why not. How would i find out?
[23:42] <guntbert> ST47: type df -h
[23:42] <_dbd_l12> gbrethen: how did you install the ov51x-jpeg driver ? modprobe ? then just remove it again
[23:42] <gbrethen> dmesg:  usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
[23:42] <monthlylove> home, and everything below it? or just home?
[23:42] <ST47> /dev/sda2              59G   24G   32G  44% /
[23:42] <gbrethen> I compiled from source
[23:42] <ST47> Anything under /home
[23:42] <tritium> gbrethen: if it was working before, why did you install a different driver?
[23:43] <burkzzz> austin_, try `ssh user@box` and see if you can log in, substituting user with your username and box with the webservers hostname or IP.
[23:43] <monthlylove> how about a ls -l /home
[23:43] <gbrethen> following instructions to get it to work with skype
[23:43] <gbrethen> my bad
[23:43] <Jeaton> how do I rip a piece of audio from a video file?
[23:43] <Syzothermy> _dbd_l12: it looks like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1884945&mode=threaded#post1884945 is for wpa, i'm using wep
[23:43] <austin_> burkzzz: in the terminal?
[23:43] <burkzzz> austin_, Aye.
[23:43] <gbrethen> never, never, never do that again!
[23:43] <mjc> klasikahl: got an opteron with 16g. will give you benchmarks momentarily
[23:44] <gbrethen> I have since then removed the ov51x-jpeg driver
[23:44] <tritium> gbrethen: you've got to be very careful about which instructions you follow.
[23:44] <micah> hay i hate xubuntu's box buttons you no like x and stuff-how do i change them?? i've gotten some themes and put them in the right place and the top never changes like it should but everything else does
[23:44] <ST47> drwxr-xr-x 54 st47        st47        4096 2009-02-06 18:29 st47
[23:44] <gbrethen> I know that now!!
[23:44] <ST47> And the same for my other accounts
[23:44] <klasikahl> mjc: you've piqued my interest... we have a bunch of opteron 2384s and 8384s
[23:44] <austin_> burkzzz: its not working then
[23:44] <austin_> ssh: Could not resolve hostname SanchezServer: Name or service not known
[23:44] <monthlylove> and i'm sorry, sudo does work? or does not?
[23:44] <burkzzz> austin_, How would you normally access the webserver?
[23:44] <ST47> Sudo does, yeah
[23:44] <klasikahl> mjc: they're the backends for the VMware enterprise.. i just read something that leads me to believe i may be able to paravirtualize a 64bit guest because we'reusing AMDs
[23:44] <gbrethen> was hoping there was an easy way to install the ubuntu 8.10 original drivers
[23:44] <tritium> mjc, klasikahl: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place for that discussion
[23:45] <gbrethen> maybe through synaptic, or add/remove
[23:45] <klasikahl> mjc: it was impossible on intel xeons
[23:45] <plazia> I have a 500 terahertz FTL nano-processor. I'd post benchmarks but it's currently busy calculating 47 trillion operations per second in 51 different dimension in 3 universes.
[23:45] <gbrethen> I am probably wishing for too much
[23:45] <mun_> how do i dynamically limit bandwidth on ubuntu? i've tried trickle, but it doesn't seem to allow speed changes after the program has been open.
[23:45] <burkzzz> austin_, Ah, just noticed your second line... Hmm, try using the server IP.
[23:45] <mjc> klasikahl: #offtopic2 on oftc
[23:45] <austin_> burkzzz: i would log in and stuff from the keyboard, connected to the server
[23:45] <austin_> oh ok
[23:45] <klasikahl> mjc: #trotw
[23:46] <mjc> klasikahl: guy with the opteron is in that channel heh
[23:46] <mjc> klasikahl: :P
[23:46] <_dbd_l12> Syzothermy: well wep configuration in /etc/network/interfaces is even more simple. This is (basically what needs to be added): http://paste.pocoo.org/show/103020/ Fill in your essid and password
[23:46] <austin_> Ok, i'm in
[23:46] <gbrethen> lsmod - usbcore               149360  8 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,usb_storage,libusual,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[23:46] <austin_> burkzzz: i got it
[23:47] <Syzothermy> thanks
[23:47] <burkzzz> austin_, Alright, then you can SSH into the box, good. :) Disconnect from the server and make a folder in your home directory on your current client.
[23:47] <burkzzz> austin_, `mkdir ~/webroot` for instance.
[23:47] <austin_> burkzzz: whats the command to disconnecte? (i'm making the folder
[23:48] <burkzzz> austin_, Type exit
[23:48] <Syzothermy> One more quick thing, is essid the mac address or the name of the AP?
[23:48] <burkzzz> Syzothermy, iirc, essid is the name, bssid is mac.
[23:48] <austin_> burkzzz: :) Got it
[23:49] <austin_> burkzzz:I have the folder made too
[23:49] <Syzothermy> thanks, i'll try it out and see what happens =)
[23:49] <Manix1> Anyone suggest a tool that will help install my Sound drivers like Envy did with my video drivers?
[23:49] <burkzzz> austin_, alright. now you can type `sshfs user@box1:/var/www ~/webroot` for instance. This would make whatever is at /var/www on box1 appear in your folder called webroot.
[23:49] <_dbd_l12> Syzothermy: does your wireless AP publish it essid (you can find prob. find this in the router config...))
[23:50] <austin_> burkzzz: Eh, i need to get files onto the webserver, not off
[23:50] <Syzothermy> you mean does it have a name? or does it broadcast it? either way, yes
[23:50] <burkzzz> austin_, Yeah, but whatever you place in ~/webroot lands on box1 in /var/www ;)
[23:50] <burkzzz> austin_, That's the beauty of it. It's like having the folder right there, you can edit and put things in without having to connect all the time.
[23:51] <_dbd_l12> Syzothermy: ok, then, if your wep-key is ASCII, you may need to append the "-s" switch to the wireless-key line. This should connect you via dhcp. You can restart your network by issuing sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:51] <perillux> I want an AMD processor, but the motherboards only have DDR2 support.  I can't connect an AMD processor to an intel motherboard can I?  Also do you think I should just get the DDR2 amd motherboard, or would it be best to go with intel for DDR3 ram?
[23:51] <carlitos__> somebody   can help me  out  with  this  http://www2.one-eyed-alien.net/~mdharm/linux-usb/
[23:52] <Manix1> no you cannot put an AMD processor in an Intel MB
[23:52] <tritium> perillux: nope, you can't.
[23:52] <Syzothermy> I think it's hex, the highest character is 'F'
[23:52] <Syzothermy> k brb, restarting
[23:52] <nDuff> perillux, is DDR3 actually worth it yet? Last I was aware, the rest of the system couldn't keep up with the memory, so there wasn't generally a bottleneck there.
[23:52] <skybound> Jeaton: this works for me: mplayer -vo null -ao pcm:file=/tmp/test.wav videofile.avi
[23:52] <guntbert> perillux: your questions are not exactly for ubuntu-support
[23:52] <marge> Seems that /etc/rc.local no longer runs on bootup.  Why would that be?
[23:52] <yoyit2> how do i share my internet conections via ethernet, from my laptop to my xbox360?? (i used to do this when i had vista/xp running on the same lapotp)
[23:52] <Manix1> !sound
[23:52] <_dbd_l12> burkzzz: that sshfs is a very good recommendation you're giving, i'm using it constantly ;-)
[23:52] <austin_> burkzzz: this came up: ssh: Could not resolve hostname SanchezServer: Name or service not known
[23:53] <burkzzz> austin_, try the IP again.
[23:53] <perillux> guntbert: is there a general computer channel then?
[23:53] <burkzzz> _dbd_l12, I know, I fell in love with in about two months ago and I don't run anything else these days. ;)
[23:54] <austin_> austin@ubuntu:~$ sshfs austing@192.168.1.102:/var/www ~/webroot
[23:54] <austin_> austing@192.168.1.102's password:
[23:54] <austin_> austing@192.168.1.102's password:
[23:54] <FloodBot1> austin_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <jtaji> perillux: try #hardware
[23:54] <_dbd_l12> burkzzz: another nice trick is ssh x forwarding. Just append the -x switch and ...
[23:54] <austin_> ??? I don't have austing as a user
[23:54] <guntbert> perillux: there sure is, but I don't know
[23:55] <guntbert> thx jtaji
[23:55] <slusk88> ctrl+alt+f1-f6 just gives me a blank screen in ubuntu 8.10 no login etc :F
[23:55] <werdnum> http://www.wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/516051/Wikipedia_Requests_for_Adminship
[23:55] <austin_> burkzzz: it keeps asking me for a password for a user i did not make
[23:55] <mabel> hi guy
[23:55] <burkzzz> austin_, like when you used ssh, replace user with your username on the server. `sshfs username@192.168.1.102:/var/www ~/webroot`
[23:55] <mabel> my /usr is mounted on another partition but i wanna move it on root partition
[23:56] <guntbert> austin_: you wrote sshfs austing@192.168.1.102:/var/www ~/webroot
[23:56] <burkzzz> _dbd_l12, Will have to try that next time I run into another box running X. :)
[23:56] <austin_> oh i see it
[23:56] <twdiamond> Quick grep question-any way to get X number of charcters before the grep match in the grep results ? Like if I search for something in the svn log, i want to see the version number too
[23:57] <austin_> burkzzz: it gave me that same message
[23:57] <austin_> fuse: mountpoint is not empty
[23:57] <austin_> fuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option
[23:57] <burkzzz> austin_, Did you put anything in the folder you made?
[23:58] <austin_> burkzzz: yes, was i not supposed too?
[23:58] <uplinked> _VIM_: just wanted to let you know that i didn't come to a verdict- i installed the -servers package, but it doesn't like my nvidia drivers, so i'm just going to install x64 anyway. thanks!
[23:58] <slusk88> ctrl+alt+f1-f6 just gives me a blank screen in ubuntu 8.10 no login etc anyone know what the problem might be? Nvidia 9600m gfx card
[23:58] <burkzzz> austin_, Move it out for a bit and once the sshfs is set up you can move it in again, that way it'll end up on the server. :)
[23:58] <plazia> uplinked, LOl has the jury reached a "verdict?"
[23:58] <cousteau> does MusE use Java or something?
[23:58] <skybound> twdiamond: you can "grep -B k ..." to get k lines before each match, dunno about characters. don't think so
[23:58] <austin_> burkzzz: alright, got it :D  there is a file called index.html.....now do i move all my files in?
[23:59] <uplinked> plazia: ?? no? didn't i just say that?
[23:59] <plazia> uplinked, chill mah brotha. I was just messing with ya :)
[23:59] <burkzzz> austin_, If you want... Anything you put into ~/webroot will end up on the server in /var/www, so be careful how you set things up in case you don't want people snooping around. ^^
[23:59] <uplinked> plazia: i'm chill, just confused :)
[23:59] <plazia> hehe
[23:59] <plazia> join the club
[23:59] <ST47> Hello ubuntuers. Simple question. How do I manage to run fsck on my hard drive if I can't run fsck on a mounted drive, and there's only one bootable drive on my system?
[23:59] <uplinked> no, if i were at the club, i'd be stoned