dtchenfta: sorry, i'm traveling for a conference this weekend, so 'net access is intermittent. are you referring to themuso's ppa or mine (which no longer has the packages, since they were uploaded to jaunty)?00:35
ftadtchen, following your request for testing, i'm using Luke's ppa00:36
ftaE: module.c: Failed to open module "module-card-restore": file not found00:36
dtchenfta: ah, that's a packaging error00:37
dtchenthanks, will point it out00:37
ftadtchen, in the meantime, any workaround?00:38
dtchenyou should be able to just comment that load-module line out00:39
ftaE: module.c: Failed to open module "module-alsa-card": file not found00:40
ftabut it's not fatal apparently00:40
ftadtchen, ^^00:41
ftastill no sound00:42
dtcheneek, they ended up in libpulse-dev00:46
dtcheni should /ctcp trout luke ;)00:46
ftais he traveling too?00:48
dtchenhe should be doing the desktop sprint thing00:48
dtchenoh dear, this source package is all sorts of glue-huffing00:49
dtchenfta: it's correct to not have a libpulsecore9 anymore; that bit is now required and part of the pulseaudio package00:50
ftai had to force it, it was blocking the upgrade00:51
ftai mean, dist-upgrade removed it00:51
ftaupgrade kept pulseaudio on hold00:52
dtchen~ppa2 or ~ppa3?00:53
dtchenok, added missing modules to debian/pulseaudio.install00:57
dtchenfta: in the meantime, try installing libpulse-dev; those modules are in that package00:58
ftawell, it's dragging a lot of other -dev with it, i can wait until tomorrow, it's already late here01:00
dtchenok, thanks for testing!01:00
ftamplayer is fine (as always), i can finish my series and go to sleep01:01
ftaflashplayer is fine too, in ff3.2 so youtube works too01:01
ftaeverything else is silent01:01
dtchenlooks like they're going directly through alsa?01:02
ftaseems so01:11
ftaopenarena is fine too01:11
dtchengood, at least alsa's not broken yet ;)01:12
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saivannasac : Any news about bug 324635?05:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 324635 in sunbird-locales "lightning-extension-locales needs update" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32463505:10
XioNoXSince I4ve updated firefox 3.1 on my jaunty, I've got this error : "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1b2 and 1.9.1b2." Someone have an idea ?09:58
XioNoXBecause only the version "10:00
XioNoX1.9.1b3pre" is installed10:00
BUGabundoasac: FF3.1 still not fixed?11:12
XioNoXBUGabundo: Still nothing for me :)11:24
BUGabundoyeah me neither11:24
BUGabundofta said  it already on the queue11:25
BUGabundobut he was waiting for asac ok!11:25
BUGabundo3.2 is a bit messy this week, so I miss 3.111:25
BUGabundoguess I'll have to downgrade11:25
XioNoXok, good to hear that11:25
XioNoXI've download11:25
BUGabundoXioNoX: not download: DOWNGRADE11:26
XioNoXI've download firefox 3.1 b2 32bits to have a working firefox 3.111:26
XioNoXBut it is weird that there are no 64bits version on mozilla ftp11:27
BUGabundodon't use the upstream version11:29
BUGabundoeither use the repos, fta PPA, or asac PPA11:29
BUGabundoasac: ping15:10
BUGabundoff 3.1   Installed: 3.1~b3~hg20090122r22900+nobinonly-0ubuntu115:10
BUGabundoI still don't get your update15:10
fta2asac, i still hate n-m17:26
BUGabundowhat did it do now, fta2?17:27
fta2damn, i have to reboot, hibernation didn't work well. brb17:27
BUGabundofta2 yeah sometimes NM doesn't like suspend/hibernate17:34
fta2no, back from hibernation, after a few minutes my laptop started to emit a continuous sound, almost an ultra sound17:36
fta2not related to nm17:36
fta2it's the kernel17:36
BUGabundo never seen that17:39
fta2i remember the dell guy at uds told me this was a known bug in my laptop series but it was fixed in the kernel now17:40
fta2asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/nm1.png17:40
fta2bug 117:41
ubottuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout)17:41
fta2bug 123417:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1234 in launchpad-foundations "Gina is an unmaintainable mess of command line options, environment variables and shell scripts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123417:41
fta2ok, i'm still there17:41
fta2gwibber crashed on startup17:42
BUGabundogwibber is crashing a bit17:49
BUGabundooh about the click... today its working...17:49
BUGabundohaven't had to click twice once17:49
fta2it's not, there's no reason why it should be. the way to reproduce it is not clearly identified yet17:50
fta2webkit is the crasher here17:50
paranHi, I just built the new jaunty b3 firefox-3.1,xulrunner-1.9.1 packages on intrepid. everything builds, but firefox segfaults right away18:00
parando you know if there are any new dependencies?18:01
fta2paran, why did you build it yourself? and how?18:02
paranbecause I am using intrepid, and it is not in -backports. I build using prevu as that is easier than manual pbuilder :)18:03
fta2we have it in two PPAs for intrepid and hardy18:04
paranI have been using my own builds of b2+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu without any problems18:04
fta2well, without more info of how you built yours, i can't help.18:05
fta2tested binaries are there: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa18:05
fta2and daily builds: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa18:05
paranwell, I built using... prevu xulrunner-1.9.1; prevu-update; prevu firefox-3.118:05
fta2(daily = untested)18:05
paranand prevu is really just a fancy wrapper around "apt-get source" and pbuilder18:06
fta2never heard of prevu so i can't help.18:07
fta2try to get a backtrace, maybe it will be helpful to understand what's going on18:07
paranas I said, downloading the source and using pbuilder _should_ be the same result. I could try and compare if you like.18:07
paranbut I will see if the PPA packages works first18:07
paranI have been avoiding PPAs in the past because I don't like unsigned repos, but the launchpad team have fixed that now :)18:08
BUGabundofta2 I've been beaching about the segfaults of 3.1 and 3.2 for weeks18:13
BUGabundoyou said its just like that!18:13
BUGabundohumm do you need another daily build testers?18:14
fta2BUGabundo, the only crash i'm aware of is the one on shutdown, for which i filed a bug upstream and no one clearly understand what's happening18:14
BUGabundoany time a another up opens a link18:15
BUGabundoa new tab/wind is open and I  get a crash/segfault18:15
fta2https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa is there for 2 reasons: some people like dailies, we need it to isolate regressions18:15
BUGabundoI even marked it as ignore on apport18:16
fta2BUGabundo, it's the same crash, it's on shutdown (from the new process that is started when you click, not from the exisiting ff window)18:16
BUGabundostarting to use mozilla daily...18:17
BUGabundoguess it's the same bug18:17
BUGabundobut its not at shutdone18:17
BUGabundounless you count the subprocess the starts, launch, and then dies18:18
fta2gwibber crashed with SIGSEGV in KJS::Lexer::lex()18:18
fta2here it is18:18
fta2webkit crash it is18:18
paranfta2: hm... your ppa illustrates one other reason I often prefer to backport myself, people throw too many packages in their ppas.18:19
fta2paran, don't use it then, i don't mind, i have enough users that are happy with it and send me feedbacks when needed18:20
paranfta2: does firefox 3.1 need a new cairo, nspr, nss, mercurial, mozilla-devscripts to work on intrepid? if so then you should probably bump the build-deps :)18:20
fta2try the daily ppa, it has none of those18:21
fta2and it's ok on intrepid, afaik18:21
paranalso, I didn't mean that your ppa wouldn't work18:22
BUGabundofta2: are you ever going to have debug builds on PPAs?18:24
fta2BUGabundo, i do, the -dbg are there18:25
fta2ppa are not creating -dbgsym so i re-added the good old -dbg18:26
BUGabundoah ok18:28
BUGabundois it as good for LP reports?18:28
fta2i'd say it's even better18:28
BUGabundoeveryone just asks me for dbgsym18:31
fta2the good thing about dbgsym is that it is transparently created by the builders (it's disabled for PPA)18:32
fta2while for -dbg, you need to add them in the d/control file18:33
fta2and they are carried in the archive, while -dbgsym are stored some place else18:33
fta2dh_strip debug symbol extraction: disabling for PPA build18:35
fta2dh_strip debug symbol extraction: not doing anything since NO_PKG_MANGLE is given18:35
fta2BUGabundo, please don't forward my messages without asking18:58
fta2dinner time. cu18:58
BUGabundoola asac19:49
BUGabundolearning Portuguese?19:50
fta2asac, here? what should i search for in the lshal output?21:02
fta2is there a way to have any kind of info about why my connection is failing? (i just see a "Disconnected" notification)21:06
BUGabundoyeah.. I need to learn how to debug NMs timeouts and segfaults21:06
BUGabundogot 2 today21:06
BUGabundowhile transitioning from Open Wifi to WPA2 enterprise21:07
fta2asac, i remember from 2 UDS ago that the update manager was supposed to be disabled when using 3G, what's the status on that?22:09
BUGabundodid it?22:10
BUGabundois it useful?22:10
BUGabundojust to save bandwight?22:10
fta2most of the time, you have to pay for 3G/GPRS/Edge/... based on usage22:12
BUGabundoI know22:12
BUGabundohere too22:12
BUGabundoppl get 1GiB or 222:12
* BUGabundo stupid me... closed IM client22:15
BUGabundofta about the debug packages22:15
BUGabundoif I only have the -debug, what do I need to run to start it?22:15
fta2eh?? the -dbg are only useful inside debuggers like gdb22:17
fta2which package do you want to debug?22:17
BUGabundoany lol22:19
BUGabundoI get pleanty of crashs22:19
BUGabundook if I can just run gdb, I guess i know all I need22:19
BUGabundoalready do it daily for pidgin, kmail, etc22:19
fta2gdb myapp22:20
BUGabundonow just need to format and reinstall to get more disk22:20
fta2make it crash22:20
fta2all thread b t22:20
BUGabundoFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on22:20
BUGabundo/dev/sda1             9.3G  8.3G  510M  95% /22:20
BUGabundobt full is what I do22:20
fta210G! small22:20
BUGabundoI know22:20
BUGabundodisk is 320GiBs22:20
BUGabundomy mistake22:20
fta2dual boot?22:20
BUGabundonope, just jaunty22:21
BUGabundo /home is XFS and I can resize it down22:21
BUGabundoeven swap is 8GiBs22:21
asacBUGabundo: how is your firefox IO on xfs?22:21
asacis that notably better than ext3?22:21
BUGabundoasac: humm how can I compare?22:21
BUGabundobeen runinig this for an year now22:21
BUGabundoold laptop was etx322:22
BUGabundobut was a 3 old year machine22:22
BUGabundonot fair to compare22:22
BUGabundoI want to test ext422:22
BUGabundono idea if I should go with one or 2 partions scheme22:22
BUGabundoasac: any sugestions on that?22:23
BUGabundoasac: do you know any !firefox addon to mesure RAM usage for each tab, like !chrome does?22:26
asacnot sure ... do you see considerable IO in your gnome performance applet?22:29
fta2i remember a bug in bugzilla to provide about:memory with a pie chart22:30
BUGabundothat would be nice22:30
fta2it was supposed to land 1st as an addon22:30
BUGabundoI don't have any IO applet22:30
BUGabundojust CPU freq and temp sensors22:30
BUGabundoasac: http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/Desktop/fulldesktop.png.php22:33
BUGabundosee why i can't have anything else in there22:33
asacBUGabundo: syste3m monitor applet allows to monitor io22:55
BUGabundoasac: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot-SysmonitorScreenlet.py.png22:56
BUGabundotoo fulled too....eheh22:57
BUGabundoand I just have it on the backgound22:57
asaci ment applet not screenlet22:57
BUGabundolet me get one22:58
BUGabundobut I have no idea where to place it22:59
BUGabundoall bars are FULL22:59
fta2remove the Main Menu and add the Menu Bar (or the opposite, i don't remember which is which)23:01
fta2you will gain ~10%23:02
BUGabundobut I use it a bit23:03
fta2just the ubuntu logo instead of the logo + App + Places + System23:03
fta2it's the same23:03
fta2click the logo, you get the 3 menus23:04
fta2it's a compact version23:04
BUGabundolet me try23:05
BUGabundoI can leave with that23:06
fta2leave ? or live ?23:13
fta2damn kernel, what is that sound23:14
asacnot glitch free ;)?23:14
fta2it's my laptop23:15
fta2massive upgrade yesterday, now it's all different23:15
fta2and 3G is slow (i'm in the country side)23:15
fta2not sure it's even 3G, damn n-m is silent23:16
fta2gives me no clue23:16
asacdid you took crimsuns changes that he said were "very intrusive" :)?23:16
asacfta2: why does nm not tell?23:16
fta2not on this laptop, but in my desktop at home, yes23:16
fta2if i'm on 3G or some lower network23:17
fta2and connection time.. it will cost me a lot23:17
fta2and i'm quite sure it locked my other SIM card (I have 2)23:18
fta2asac, ^^23:26

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