| dtchen | fta: sorry, i'm traveling for a conference this weekend, so 'net access is intermittent. are you referring to themuso's ppa or mine (which no longer has the packages, since they were uploaded to jaunty)? | 00:35 |
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| fta | dtchen, following your request for testing, i'm using Luke's ppa | 00:36 |
| fta | E: module.c: Failed to open module "module-card-restore": file not found | 00:36 |
| dtchen | fta: ah, that's a packaging error | 00:37 |
| dtchen | thanks, will point it out | 00:37 |
| fta | dtchen, in the meantime, any workaround? | 00:38 |
| dtchen | you should be able to just comment that load-module line out | 00:39 |
| fta | E: module.c: Failed to open module "module-alsa-card": file not found | 00:40 |
| fta | twice | 00:40 |
| fta | but it's not fatal apparently | 00:40 |
| fta | dtchen, ^^ | 00:41 |
| fta | still no sound | 00:42 |
| dtchen | eek, they ended up in libpulse-dev | 00:46 |
| dtchen | i should /ctcp trout luke ;) | 00:46 |
| fta | is he traveling too? | 00:48 |
| dtchen | he should be doing the desktop sprint thing | 00:48 |
| dtchen | oh dear, this source package is all sorts of glue-huffing | 00:49 |
| dtchen | fta: it's correct to not have a libpulsecore9 anymore; that bit is now required and part of the pulseaudio package | 00:50 |
| fta | i had to force it, it was blocking the upgrade | 00:51 |
| fta | i mean, dist-upgrade removed it | 00:51 |
| fta | upgrade kept pulseaudio on hold | 00:52 |
| dtchen | ~ppa2 or ~ppa3? | 00:53 |
| fta | ppa3 | 00:54 |
| dtchen | ok | 00:54 |
| fta | 0.9.15~test1-0ubuntu1~ppa3 | 00:54 |
| dtchen | ok, added missing modules to debian/pulseaudio.install | 00:57 |
| dtchen | fta: in the meantime, try installing libpulse-dev; those modules are in that package | 00:58 |
| fta | well, it's dragging a lot of other -dev with it, i can wait until tomorrow, it's already late here | 01:00 |
| dtchen | ok, thanks for testing! | 01:00 |
| fta | mplayer is fine (as always), i can finish my series and go to sleep | 01:01 |
| fta | flashplayer is fine too, in ff3.2 so youtube works too | 01:01 |
| fta | everything else is silent | 01:01 |
| dtchen | looks like they're going directly through alsa? | 01:02 |
| fta | seems so | 01:11 |
| fta | openarena is fine too | 01:11 |
| dtchen | good, at least alsa's not broken yet ;) | 01:12 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| saivann | asac : Any news about bug 324635? | 05:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 324635 in sunbird-locales "lightning-extension-locales needs update" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324635 | 05:10 |
| XioNoX | Hi! | 09:46 |
| XioNoX | Since I4ve updated firefox 3.1 on my jaunty, I've got this error : "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1b2 and 1.9.1b2." Someone have an idea ? | 09:58 |
| XioNoX | Because only the version " | 10:00 |
| XioNoX | 1.9.1b3pre" is installed | 10:00 |
| BUGabundo | asac: FF3.1 still not fixed? | 11:12 |
| XioNoX | BUGabundo: Still nothing for me :) | 11:24 |
| BUGabundo | yeah me neither | 11:24 |
| BUGabundo | fta said it already on the queue | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | but he was waiting for asac ok! | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | 3.2 is a bit messy this week, so I miss 3.1 | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | guess I'll have to downgrade | 11:25 |
| XioNoX | ok, good to hear that | 11:25 |
| XioNoX | I've download | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | XioNoX: not download: DOWNGRADE | 11:26 |
| XioNoX | I've download firefox 3.1 b2 32bits to have a working firefox 3.1 | 11:26 |
| XioNoX | But it is weird that there are no 64bits version on mozilla ftp | 11:27 |
| BUGabundo | don't use the upstream version | 11:29 |
| BUGabundo | either use the repos, fta PPA, or asac PPA | 11:29 |
| BUGabundo | asac: ping | 15:10 |
| BUGabundo | ff 3.1 Installed: 3.1~b3~hg20090122r22900+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | 15:10 |
| BUGabundo | I still don't get your update | 15:10 |
| fta2 | asac, i still hate n-m | 17:26 |
| BUGabundo | eheheh | 17:27 |
| BUGabundo | what did it do now, fta2? | 17:27 |
| fta2 | damn, i have to reboot, hibernation didn't work well. brb | 17:27 |
| BUGabundo | fta2 yeah sometimes NM doesn't like suspend/hibernate | 17:34 |
| fta2 | no, back from hibernation, after a few minutes my laptop started to emit a continuous sound, almost an ultra sound | 17:36 |
| fta2 | not related to nm | 17:36 |
| fta2 | it's the kernel | 17:36 |
| BUGabundo | xiiiii | 17:39 |
| BUGabundo | never seen that | 17:39 |
| fta2 | i remember the dell guy at uds told me this was a known bug in my laptop series but it was fixed in the kernel now | 17:40 |
| fta2 | asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/nm1.png | 17:40 |
| fta2 | @time | 17:40 |
| fta2 | ping | 17:40 |
| fta2 | bug 1 | 17:41 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) | 17:41 |
| fta2 | bug 1234 | 17:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1234 in launchpad-foundations "Gina is an unmaintainable mess of command line options, environment variables and shell scripts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 | 17:41 |
| fta2 | ok, i'm still there | 17:41 |
| fta2 | gwibber crashed on startup | 17:42 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 17:49 |
| BUGabundo | gwibber is crashing a bit | 17:49 |
| BUGabundo | oh about the click... today its working... | 17:49 |
| BUGabundo | haven't had to click twice once | 17:49 |
| fta2 | it's not, there's no reason why it should be. the way to reproduce it is not clearly identified yet | 17:50 |
| fta2 | webkit is the crasher here | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 17:59 |
| paran | Hi, I just built the new jaunty b3 firefox-3.1,xulrunner-1.9.1 packages on intrepid. everything builds, but firefox segfaults right away | 18:00 |
| paran | do you know if there are any new dependencies? | 18:01 |
| fta2 | paran, why did you build it yourself? and how? | 18:02 |
| paran | because I am using intrepid, and it is not in -backports. I build using prevu as that is easier than manual pbuilder :) | 18:03 |
| fta2 | we have it in two PPAs for intrepid and hardy | 18:04 |
| paran | I have been using my own builds of b2+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu without any problems | 18:04 |
| fta2 | well, without more info of how you built yours, i can't help. | 18:05 |
| fta2 | tested binaries are there: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa | 18:05 |
| fta2 | and daily builds: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 18:05 |
| paran | well, I built using... prevu xulrunner-1.9.1; prevu-update; prevu firefox-3.1 | 18:05 |
| fta2 | (daily = untested) | 18:05 |
| paran | and prevu is really just a fancy wrapper around "apt-get source" and pbuilder | 18:06 |
| fta2 | never heard of prevu so i can't help. | 18:07 |
| fta2 | sorry | 18:07 |
| fta2 | try to get a backtrace, maybe it will be helpful to understand what's going on | 18:07 |
| paran | as I said, downloading the source and using pbuilder _should_ be the same result. I could try and compare if you like. | 18:07 |
| paran | but I will see if the PPA packages works first | 18:07 |
| paran | I have been avoiding PPAs in the past because I don't like unsigned repos, but the launchpad team have fixed that now :) | 18:08 |
| BUGabundo | fta2 I've been beaching about the segfaults of 3.1 and 3.2 for weeks | 18:13 |
| BUGabundo | you said its just like that! | 18:13 |
| BUGabundo | eehhe | 18:13 |
| BUGabundo | humm do you need another daily build testers? | 18:14 |
| fta2 | BUGabundo, the only crash i'm aware of is the one on shutdown, for which i filed a bug upstream and no one clearly understand what's happening | 18:14 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 18:15 |
| BUGabundo | any time a another up opens a link | 18:15 |
| BUGabundo | a new tab/wind is open and I get a crash/segfault | 18:15 |
| fta2 | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa is there for 2 reasons: some people like dailies, we need it to isolate regressions | 18:15 |
| BUGabundo | I even marked it as ignore on apport | 18:16 |
| fta2 | BUGabundo, it's the same crash, it's on shutdown (from the new process that is started when you click, not from the exisiting ff window) | 18:16 |
| BUGabundo | starting to use mozilla daily... | 18:17 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 18:17 |
| BUGabundo | guess it's the same bug | 18:17 |
| BUGabundo | but its not at shutdone | 18:17 |
| BUGabundo | unless you count the subprocess the starts, launch, and then dies | 18:18 |
| fta2 | gwibber crashed with SIGSEGV in KJS::Lexer::lex() | 18:18 |
| fta2 | here it is | 18:18 |
| fta2 | webkit crash it is | 18:18 |
| paran | fta2: hm... your ppa illustrates one other reason I often prefer to backport myself, people throw too many packages in their ppas. | 18:19 |
| fta2 | paran, don't use it then, i don't mind, i have enough users that are happy with it and send me feedbacks when needed | 18:20 |
| paran | fta2: does firefox 3.1 need a new cairo, nspr, nss, mercurial, mozilla-devscripts to work on intrepid? if so then you should probably bump the build-deps :) | 18:20 |
| fta2 | no | 18:21 |
| fta2 | try the daily ppa, it has none of those | 18:21 |
| fta2 | and it's ok on intrepid, afaik | 18:21 |
| paran | also, I didn't mean that your ppa wouldn't work | 18:22 |
| BUGabundo | fta2: are you ever going to have debug builds on PPAs? | 18:24 |
| fta2 | BUGabundo, i do, the -dbg are there | 18:25 |
| fta2 | ppa are not creating -dbgsym so i re-added the good old -dbg | 18:26 |
| BUGabundo | ah ok | 18:28 |
| BUGabundo | is it as good for LP reports? | 18:28 |
| fta2 | i'd say it's even better | 18:28 |
| BUGabundo | ohh | 18:31 |
| BUGabundo | everyone just asks me for dbgsym | 18:31 |
| fta2 | the good thing about dbgsym is that it is transparently created by the builders (it's disabled for PPA) | 18:32 |
| fta2 | while for -dbg, you need to add them in the d/control file | 18:33 |
| fta2 | and they are carried in the archive, while -dbgsym are stored some place else | 18:33 |
| fta2 | dh_strip debug symbol extraction: disabling for PPA build | 18:35 |
| fta2 | dh_strip debug symbol extraction: not doing anything since NO_PKG_MANGLE is given | 18:35 |
| fta2 | BUGabundo, please don't forward my messages without asking | 18:58 |
| fta2 | dinner time. cu | 18:58 |
| asac | ola | 19:39 |
| BUGabundo | ola asac | 19:49 |
| BUGabundo | learning Portuguese? | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | dinner | 19:50 |
| fta2 | asac, here? what should i search for in the lshal output? | 21:02 |
| fta2 | is there a way to have any kind of info about why my connection is failing? (i just see a "Disconnected" notification) | 21:06 |
| BUGabundo | yeah.. I need to learn how to debug NMs timeouts and segfaults | 21:06 |
| BUGabundo | got 2 today | 21:06 |
| BUGabundo | while transitioning from Open Wifi to WPA2 enterprise | 21:07 |
| fta2 | asac, i remember from 2 UDS ago that the update manager was supposed to be disabled when using 3G, what's the status on that? | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | did it? | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | is it useful? | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | just to save bandwight? | 22:10 |
| fta2 | yes | 22:11 |
| fta2 | most of the time, you have to pay for 3G/GPRS/Edge/... based on usage | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | here too | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | ppl get 1GiB or 2 | 22:12 |
| * BUGabundo stupid me... closed IM client | 22:15 | |
| BUGabundo | fta about the debug packages | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | if I only have the -debug, what do I need to run to start it? | 22:15 |
| fta2 | eh?? the -dbg are only useful inside debuggers like gdb | 22:17 |
| fta2 | which package do you want to debug? | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | any lol | 22:19 |
| BUGabundo | I get pleanty of crashs | 22:19 |
| BUGabundo | ok if I can just run gdb, I guess i know all I need | 22:19 |
| BUGabundo | already do it daily for pidgin, kmail, etc | 22:19 |
| fta2 | gdb myapp | 22:20 |
| fta2 | r | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | now just need to format and reinstall to get more disk | 22:20 |
| fta2 | make it crash | 22:20 |
| fta2 | bt | 22:20 |
| fta2 | all thread b t | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | /dev/sda1 9.3G 8.3G 510M 95% / | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | bt full is what I do | 22:20 |
| fta2 | 10G! small | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | disk is 320GiBs | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | my mistake | 22:20 |
| fta2 | dual boot? | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | nope, just jaunty | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | /home is XFS and I can resize it down | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | even swap is 8GiBs | 22:21 |
| asac | BUGabundo: how is your firefox IO on xfs? | 22:21 |
| asac | is that notably better than ext3? | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | asac: humm how can I compare? | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | LLOL | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | been runinig this for an year now | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | old laptop was etx3 | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | but was a 3 old year machine | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | not fair to compare | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | I want to test ext4 | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | no idea if I should go with one or 2 partions scheme | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | asac: any sugestions on that? | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | asac: do you know any !firefox addon to mesure RAM usage for each tab, like !chrome does? | 22:26 |
| asac | not sure ... do you see considerable IO in your gnome performance applet? | 22:29 |
| fta2 | i remember a bug in bugzilla to provide about:memory with a pie chart | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | that would be nice | 22:30 |
| fta2 | it was supposed to land 1st as an addon | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | I don't have any IO applet | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | just CPU freq and temp sensors | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | asac: http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/Desktop/fulldesktop.png.php | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | see why i can't have anything else in there | 22:33 |
| asac | BUGabundo: syste3m monitor applet allows to monitor io | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | asac: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot-SysmonitorScreenlet.py.png | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | too fulled too....eheh | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | and I just have it on the backgound | 22:57 |
| asac | i ment applet not screenlet | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | let me get one | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | but I have no idea where to place it | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | all bars are FULL | 22:59 |
| fta2 | remove the Main Menu and add the Menu Bar (or the opposite, i don't remember which is which) | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:02 |
| fta2 | you will gain ~10% | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | but I use it a bit | 23:03 |
| fta2 | just the ubuntu logo instead of the logo + App + Places + System | 23:03 |
| fta2 | it's the same | 23:03 |
| fta2 | click the logo, you get the 3 menus | 23:04 |
| fta2 | it's a compact version | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | let me try | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | I can leave with that | 23:06 |
| fta2 | leave ? or live ? | 23:13 |
| fta2 | :) | 23:13 |
| fta2 | damn kernel, what is that sound | 23:14 |
| asac | not glitch free ;)? | 23:14 |
| fta2 | it's my laptop | 23:15 |
| fta2 | massive upgrade yesterday, now it's all different | 23:15 |
| fta2 | and 3G is slow (i'm in the country side) | 23:15 |
| fta2 | not sure it's even 3G, damn n-m is silent | 23:16 |
| fta2 | gives me no clue | 23:16 |
| asac | did you took crimsuns changes that he said were "very intrusive" :)? | 23:16 |
| asac | fta2: why does nm not tell? | 23:16 |
| fta2 | not on this laptop, but in my desktop at home, yes | 23:16 |
| fta2 | if i'm on 3G or some lower network | 23:17 |
| fta2 | and connection time.. it will cost me a lot | 23:17 |
| fta2 | and i'm quite sure it locked my other SIM card (I have 2) | 23:18 |
| fta2 | asac, ^^ | 23:26 |
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