[00:35] fta: sorry, i'm traveling for a conference this weekend, so 'net access is intermittent. are you referring to themuso's ppa or mine (which no longer has the packages, since they were uploaded to jaunty)? [00:36] dtchen, following your request for testing, i'm using Luke's ppa [00:36] E: module.c: Failed to open module "module-card-restore": file not found [00:37] fta: ah, that's a packaging error [00:37] thanks, will point it out [00:38] dtchen, in the meantime, any workaround? [00:39] you should be able to just comment that load-module line out [00:40] E: module.c: Failed to open module "module-alsa-card": file not found [00:40] twice [00:40] but it's not fatal apparently [00:41] dtchen, ^^ [00:42] still no sound [00:46] eek, they ended up in libpulse-dev [00:46] i should /ctcp trout luke ;) [00:48] is he traveling too? [00:48] he should be doing the desktop sprint thing [00:49] oh dear, this source package is all sorts of glue-huffing [00:50] fta: it's correct to not have a libpulsecore9 anymore; that bit is now required and part of the pulseaudio package [00:51] i had to force it, it was blocking the upgrade [00:51] i mean, dist-upgrade removed it [00:52] upgrade kept pulseaudio on hold [00:53] ~ppa2 or ~ppa3? [00:54] ppa3 [00:54] ok [00:54] 0.9.15~test1-0ubuntu1~ppa3 [00:57] ok, added missing modules to debian/pulseaudio.install [00:58] fta: in the meantime, try installing libpulse-dev; those modules are in that package [01:00] well, it's dragging a lot of other -dev with it, i can wait until tomorrow, it's already late here [01:00] ok, thanks for testing! [01:01] mplayer is fine (as always), i can finish my series and go to sleep [01:01] flashplayer is fine too, in ff3.2 so youtube works too [01:01] everything else is silent [01:02] looks like they're going directly through alsa? [01:11] seems so [01:11] openarena is fine too [01:12] good, at least alsa's not broken yet ;) === asac_ is now known as asac [05:10] asac : Any news about bug 324635? [05:10] Launchpad bug 324635 in sunbird-locales "lightning-extension-locales needs update" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324635 [09:46] Hi! [09:58] Since I4ve updated firefox 3.1 on my jaunty, I've got this error : "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1b2 and 1.9.1b2." Someone have an idea ? [10:00] Because only the version " [10:00] 1.9.1b3pre" is installed [11:12] asac: FF3.1 still not fixed? [11:24] BUGabundo: Still nothing for me :) [11:24] yeah me neither [11:25] fta said it already on the queue [11:25] but he was waiting for asac ok! [11:25] 3.2 is a bit messy this week, so I miss 3.1 [11:25] guess I'll have to downgrade [11:25] ok, good to hear that [11:25] I've download [11:26] XioNoX: not download: DOWNGRADE [11:26] I've download firefox 3.1 b2 32bits to have a working firefox 3.1 [11:27] But it is weird that there are no 64bits version on mozilla ftp [11:29] don't use the upstream version [11:29] either use the repos, fta PPA, or asac PPA [15:10] asac: ping [15:10] ff 3.1 Installed: 3.1~b3~hg20090122r22900+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [15:10] I still don't get your update [17:26] asac, i still hate n-m [17:27] eheheh [17:27] what did it do now, fta2? [17:27] damn, i have to reboot, hibernation didn't work well. brb [17:34] fta2 yeah sometimes NM doesn't like suspend/hibernate [17:36] no, back from hibernation, after a few minutes my laptop started to emit a continuous sound, almost an ultra sound [17:36] not related to nm [17:36] it's the kernel [17:39] xiiiii [17:39] never seen that [17:40] i remember the dell guy at uds told me this was a known bug in my laptop series but it was fixed in the kernel now [17:40] asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/nm1.png [17:40] @time [17:40] ping [17:41] bug 1 [17:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) [17:41] bug 1234 [17:41] Launchpad bug 1234 in launchpad-foundations "Gina is an unmaintainable mess of command line options, environment variables and shell scripts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 [17:41] ok, i'm still there [17:42] gwibber crashed on startup [17:49] ehe [17:49] gwibber is crashing a bit [17:49] oh about the click... today its working... [17:49] haven't had to click twice once [17:50] it's not, there's no reason why it should be. the way to reproduce it is not clearly identified yet [17:50] webkit is the crasher here [17:59] lol [18:00] Hi, I just built the new jaunty b3 firefox-3.1,xulrunner-1.9.1 packages on intrepid. everything builds, but firefox segfaults right away [18:01] do you know if there are any new dependencies? [18:02] paran, why did you build it yourself? and how? [18:03] because I am using intrepid, and it is not in -backports. I build using prevu as that is easier than manual pbuilder :) [18:04] we have it in two PPAs for intrepid and hardy [18:04] I have been using my own builds of b2+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu without any problems [18:05] well, without more info of how you built yours, i can't help. [18:05] tested binaries are there: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa [18:05] and daily builds: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa [18:05] well, I built using... prevu xulrunner-1.9.1; prevu-update; prevu firefox-3.1 [18:05] (daily = untested) [18:06] and prevu is really just a fancy wrapper around "apt-get source" and pbuilder [18:07] never heard of prevu so i can't help. [18:07] sorry [18:07] try to get a backtrace, maybe it will be helpful to understand what's going on [18:07] as I said, downloading the source and using pbuilder _should_ be the same result. I could try and compare if you like. [18:07] but I will see if the PPA packages works first [18:08] I have been avoiding PPAs in the past because I don't like unsigned repos, but the launchpad team have fixed that now :) [18:13] fta2 I've been beaching about the segfaults of 3.1 and 3.2 for weeks [18:13] you said its just like that! [18:13] eehhe [18:14] humm do you need another daily build testers? [18:14] BUGabundo, the only crash i'm aware of is the one on shutdown, for which i filed a bug upstream and no one clearly understand what's happening [18:15] nope [18:15] any time a another up opens a link [18:15] a new tab/wind is open and I get a crash/segfault [18:15] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa is there for 2 reasons: some people like dailies, we need it to isolate regressions [18:16] I even marked it as ignore on apport [18:16] BUGabundo, it's the same crash, it's on shutdown (from the new process that is started when you click, not from the exisiting ff window) [18:17] starting to use mozilla daily... [18:17] yep [18:17] guess it's the same bug [18:17] but its not at shutdone [18:18] unless you count the subprocess the starts, launch, and then dies [18:18] gwibber crashed with SIGSEGV in KJS::Lexer::lex() [18:18] here it is [18:18] webkit crash it is [18:19] fta2: hm... your ppa illustrates one other reason I often prefer to backport myself, people throw too many packages in their ppas. [18:20] paran, don't use it then, i don't mind, i have enough users that are happy with it and send me feedbacks when needed [18:20] fta2: does firefox 3.1 need a new cairo, nspr, nss, mercurial, mozilla-devscripts to work on intrepid? if so then you should probably bump the build-deps :) [18:21] no [18:21] try the daily ppa, it has none of those [18:21] and it's ok on intrepid, afaik [18:22] also, I didn't mean that your ppa wouldn't work [18:24] fta2: are you ever going to have debug builds on PPAs? [18:25] BUGabundo, i do, the -dbg are there [18:26] ppa are not creating -dbgsym so i re-added the good old -dbg [18:28] ah ok [18:28] is it as good for LP reports? [18:28] i'd say it's even better [18:31] ohh [18:31] everyone just asks me for dbgsym [18:32] the good thing about dbgsym is that it is transparently created by the builders (it's disabled for PPA) [18:33] while for -dbg, you need to add them in the d/control file [18:33] and they are carried in the archive, while -dbgsym are stored some place else [18:35] dh_strip debug symbol extraction: disabling for PPA build [18:35] dh_strip debug symbol extraction: not doing anything since NO_PKG_MANGLE is given [18:58] BUGabundo, please don't forward my messages without asking [18:58] dinner time. cu [19:39] ola [19:49] ola asac [19:50] learning Portuguese? [19:50] dinner [21:02] asac, here? what should i search for in the lshal output? [21:06] is there a way to have any kind of info about why my connection is failing? (i just see a "Disconnected" notification) [21:06] yeah.. I need to learn how to debug NMs timeouts and segfaults [21:06] got 2 today [21:07] while transitioning from Open Wifi to WPA2 enterprise [22:09] asac, i remember from 2 UDS ago that the update manager was supposed to be disabled when using 3G, what's the status on that? [22:10] did it? [22:10] is it useful? [22:10] just to save bandwight? [22:11] yes [22:12] most of the time, you have to pay for 3G/GPRS/Edge/... based on usage [22:12] I know [22:12] here too [22:12] ppl get 1GiB or 2 [22:15] * BUGabundo stupid me... closed IM client [22:15] fta about the debug packages [22:15] if I only have the -debug, what do I need to run to start it? [22:17] eh?? the -dbg are only useful inside debuggers like gdb [22:17] which package do you want to debug? [22:19] any lol [22:19] I get pleanty of crashs [22:19] ok if I can just run gdb, I guess i know all I need [22:19] already do it daily for pidgin, kmail, etc [22:20] gdb myapp [22:20] r [22:20] now just need to format and reinstall to get more disk [22:20] make it crash [22:20] bt [22:20] all thread b t [22:20] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [22:20] /dev/sda1 9.3G 8.3G 510M 95% / [22:20] bt full is what I do [22:20] 10G! small [22:20] I know [22:20] disk is 320GiBs [22:20] my mistake [22:20] dual boot? [22:21] nope, just jaunty [22:21] /home is XFS and I can resize it down [22:21] even swap is 8GiBs [22:21] BUGabundo: how is your firefox IO on xfs? [22:21] is that notably better than ext3? [22:21] asac: humm how can I compare? [22:21] LLOL [22:21] been runinig this for an year now [22:22] old laptop was etx3 [22:22] but was a 3 old year machine [22:22] not fair to compare [22:22] I want to test ext4 [22:22] no idea if I should go with one or 2 partions scheme [22:23] asac: any sugestions on that? [22:26] asac: do you know any !firefox addon to mesure RAM usage for each tab, like !chrome does? [22:29] not sure ... do you see considerable IO in your gnome performance applet? [22:30] i remember a bug in bugzilla to provide about:memory with a pie chart [22:30] that would be nice [22:30] it was supposed to land 1st as an addon [22:30] I don't have any IO applet [22:30] just CPU freq and temp sensors [22:33] asac: http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/Desktop/fulldesktop.png.php [22:33] see why i can't have anything else in there [22:55] BUGabundo: syste3m monitor applet allows to monitor io [22:56] asac: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot-SysmonitorScreenlet.py.png [22:57] too fulled too....eheh [22:57] and I just have it on the backgound [22:57] i ment applet not screenlet [22:58] ahh [22:58] let me get one [22:59] but I have no idea where to place it [22:59] all bars are FULL [23:01] remove the Main Menu and add the Menu Bar (or the opposite, i don't remember which is which) [23:02] eheh [23:02] you will gain ~10% [23:03] but I use it a bit [23:03] just the ubuntu logo instead of the logo + App + Places + System [23:03] it's the same [23:04] click the logo, you get the 3 menus [23:04] it's a compact version [23:05] humm [23:05] let me try [23:06] yeah [23:06] I can leave with that [23:13] leave ? or live ? [23:13] :) [23:14] damn kernel, what is that sound [23:14] not glitch free ;)? [23:15] it's my laptop [23:15] massive upgrade yesterday, now it's all different [23:15] and 3G is slow (i'm in the country side) [23:16] not sure it's even 3G, damn n-m is silent [23:16] gives me no clue [23:16] did you took crimsuns changes that he said were "very intrusive" :)? [23:16] fta2: why does nm not tell? [23:16] not on this laptop, but in my desktop at home, yes [23:17] if i'm on 3G or some lower network [23:17] and connection time.. it will cost me a lot [23:18] and i'm quite sure it locked my other SIM card (I have 2) [23:26] asac, ^^