[00:04] <palt> Cool, I didn't know about ebox. Looked pretty handy for folks who don't like the config files :)
[00:12] <erichammond> How do I find out the timer frequency in the current running kernel (e.g., 1000Hz)?
[00:22] <ivoks> /boot/config-2.6.27-11-generic:CONFIG_HZ=250
[00:25] <erichammond> ivoks: Thanks.
[00:25] <erichammond> What if the system in question has a mostly empty /boot (EC2, xen)?
[01:08] <ubuntuBG> Which is the best FTP server for Ubuntu?
[01:08] <Deeps> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[01:08] <Deeps> is what's recommended in the documentation
[01:08] <ubuntuBG> Thanks
[01:09] <jtaji> vsftpd is also the only ftp server in main
[01:09] <jtaji> beyond that one, I think proftpd is popular
[01:10] <Deeps> in main == officially supported
[01:10] <ScottK> ubuntuBG: Also consider an alternative that doesn't send passwords in the clear.
[01:10]  * jtaji nods
[01:10]  * ScottK is a fan of sftp.
[01:10] <ubuntuBG> yes
[01:11] <Deeps> ScottK: vsftpd supports auth tls
[01:11] <ScottK> Good.
[01:11] <maw_> what do you guys use to track software/hardware inventory?
[01:11] <ubuntuBG> is it work in Ubuntu 64
[01:11] <maw_> just in general, production systems / office
[01:12] <erichammond> maw_: Emacs
[01:12] <erichammond> :)
[01:12] <maw_> h4t3r
[01:12] <maw_> :P
[01:12] <jtaji> ubuntuBG: absolutely
[01:12] <ubuntuBG> Thanks
[01:13] <maw_> I am hoping there is some bling commerical software solution that makes it easy
[01:13] <ubuntuBG> Is its configure easy?
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> maw_, i suspect having a search in the repos will turn something up
[01:20] <maw_> it doesn't need to be ubuntu related, just in general
[01:20] <ubuntuBG> is vsftpd included in Ubuntu 8.10?
[01:20] <maw_> I thought that sysadmins live here as it is a "server" channel
[01:24] <ubuntuBG> nobody is in server channel
[01:25] <jtaji> !info vsftpd
[01:25] <ScottK> People not answering your question is not the same as not here.
[01:29] <ubuntuBG> Thanks
[01:32] <jmarsden|work> maw_: Look at OCSng and maybe GLPI for the inventory tracking stuff -- open source, not closed... you can probably use the (commercial) service from Canonical called landscape; it depends exactly what you are looking for.
[01:33] <maw_> something, probably DB driven to track hardware/software inventory for the enterprise
[01:33] <maw_> excel is working... but that's getting old :\
[01:34] <maw_> ill check those products out - thanks
[01:34] <jmarsden|work> np.  They are more network-oriented than a spreadsheet or a database ... auto updates as machines boot, etc.
[01:35] <maw_> do they use agents or snmp?
[01:35] <jmarsden|work> Agents (run at boot or login, not necessarily continuously).
[01:36] <jmarsden|work> You *can* use them by hand, at least OCSng you can, but it seems a bit pointless unless you are tracking non-networked machines.
[01:36] <maw_> hm, boot would be good... OCS looks like it has a lot of functionality
[01:36]  * ScottK suggests to consider that after transition to a FOSS software base software inventory is a pretty meaningless concern.
[01:37] <Chipzz> ScottK: it may not be depending on your POV
[01:37] <jmarsden|work> ScottK: Maybe not if you have to support everything your end users install??
[01:37] <ScottK> True.
[01:37] <maw_> luckily I don't
[01:37] <ScottK> But that's a different set of requirements than "BSA will put me out of business if  I mess up".
[01:37] <Chipzz> or if you lack manpower, and want to hire, but need to know what exactly you're running
[01:41] <maw_> I think most private companies have an understaffed IT dept.
[01:42] <maw_> so good sysadmins are always looking to centralize management and maintenance
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> i disagree with that assertion.
[01:42] <maw_> even if you have 30 sysadmins and 30 servers... still smart to centralize >.<
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> centralising should be done out of necessity, not for its own sake. it makes life extremely hard for those whos services get removed, and reduces the number of people able to fix things (eg, local admin can no longer unbreak things effectively)
[01:44] <maw_> if requirements are properly compiled, local requirements can remain intact through GPO
[01:44] <maw_> and I am more talking about a one site setup
[01:44] <maw_> office / datacenter and X admins to manage both
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> the concept of centralising when you only have one location seems somewhat bizzare to me if i'm honest
[01:45] <maw_> so you would rather log into 20 windows server one at a time to patch them, or use WSUS to push patches to all of the boxes with one click?
[01:46] <ScottK> In my experience working for a big company the less central IT had to do with what I was doing, the better off I was.
[01:46]  * ScottK has been in more than one "How about I stop paying for your 'support' and you stop breaking my stuff" meeting.
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> I would rather not deal with windows servers. but it looks like we use 'centralise' in different ways
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> ScottK, agreed.
[01:47] <KingOfDos> can someone say anything about the postfix/sasl configuration? i think that it's using another file for the mysql setup.
[01:47] <KingOfDos> if i enable query logging on my database. after changing the sasl script in /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf so it wil use a query like "SELECT aaaapassword..." the query log stil gives me "SELECT password..."
[01:49] <KingOfDos> i want to change the login check so it uses the "where email = '%u@%r'" instead of "where email = '%u'"
[01:50] <ScottK> This is Cyrus SASL, right?
[01:50] <KingOfDos> yes
[01:50] <ScottK> You know you can only have one realm, right?
[01:51] <KingOfDos> how do you mean?
[01:52] <ScottK> I assume your 'r' is the SASL realm.  You can only have one.
[01:52] <KingOfDos> i've got a virtual mail setup. a user in mysql is info@domain.com, sasl then denies the login because the user is 'info' and the realm is 'domain.com'. so i thinked that i just had to change the query
[01:53] <KingOfDos> i'd added a clean user, with only the name 'info' and the same password as the 'info@domain.com' account. then it works
[01:53] <KingOfDos> but indeed, i want a multi-domain env. so i guess that i've got to use another package then?
[01:59] <Deeps> "$customer advises server is down. When he tries to login he sees a Colonel Panic"
[01:59] <ScottK> I'd suggest looking into dovecot sasl.
[02:04] <KingOfDos> do i need to setup an complete dovecot config, or can i only use the sasl methods with my postfix/courier setup?
[02:07] <KingOfDos> oh, i'd read over a line at the wiki. now it's clear :)
[02:10] <ScottK> If you look at the server guide, dovecot sasl is what's mostly in the docs.
[02:22] <Shanix> hi all, How do I manage the SAN device from Ubuntu?
[02:24] <Shanix> after running the scsiadd -p command, I get the following result:
[02:24] <downhill_> "the SAN device"...
[02:24] <Shanix> Host: scsi3 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
[02:24] <Shanix> does this look right? or is there are any package that I should install??
[02:25] <tethridge> I'm having a problem with my headless server
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh yes?
[02:26] <tethridge> my logs keep filling up with "Feb  6 21:26:10 fs1 kernel: [80179.115092] printk: 1 messages suppressed."
[02:26] <tethridge> I've unplugged all usb devices
[02:27] <tethridge> any idea how to stop it?
[02:27] <Shanix> downhill_, anything that I should know about related to the SAN management in Ubuntu? or suggestions?
[02:27] <tethridge> if I do lsusb it locks my console
[02:27] <downhill_> "the SAN" there are many types of SANs.
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> tethridge, can you give us some context for the printk?
[02:27] <tethridge> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm not sure what you mean by context.
[02:28] <Shanix> downhill_, it's the HP storagework connected with fibre channel
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> tethridge, i dont see an inherant problem with messages being suppressed. what about that line worries you?
[02:29] <tethridge> well, I've had the box working as a cups server and it recently stopped
[02:29] <tethridge> I had applied security updates
[02:29] <downhill_> oh, I wouldn't know anything about that off the top of my head, Shanix.
[02:29] <tethridge> I thought that maybe it was just a problem with the kernel, but I tried the previous one and it won't work either
[02:29] <downhill_> I simply didn't understand the context of your question.
[02:29] <tethridge> plus, lsusb is locking up.  That doesn't seem right.
[02:30] <tethridge> I only use this box for samba, nfs, cups, and a headless virtualbox instance of windows xp so my wife can sync her ipod
[02:30] <tethridge> I've shutdown everything and I still get the messages and lsusb still doesn't work.
[02:30] <tethridge> Kamping_Kaiser, here is my post on the forums.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061565
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> sounds like bad hardware, but the timing is strange. check dpkg's log and see what security updates you installed. perhaps it'll give you some clues
[02:31] <tethridge> maybe that would supply some context.  I have the kernel, lspci and dmesg on there
[02:31] <Shanix> downhill_, the first question would be, what is the command that I need to use to see how the storage device is being recognized in the system? I tried dmesg, didn't find anything
[02:31] <KingOfDos> ScottK: all the howto's/other type of documents that give me information about dovecot sasl within postfix ar thinking that the user is using local mail. but im using a virtual mail setup
[02:32] <ScottK> Hmmm.
[02:32] <downhill_> Shanix: look in /var/log/dmesg then
[02:32] <ScottK> I'm not sure what advice to give you.
[02:33] <downhill_> the boot info from the command "dmesg" can easily run off the scrollback if your machine has been booted a while
[02:35] <Shanix> downhill_, ok, done that, and grep the word scsi, it shows: http://pastebin.com/m15fc84b7
[02:36] <KingOfDos> ScottK: i won't give up searching. i've got a few suggestions found on the internet, using dovecot in a simular env.
[02:36] <downhill_> Shanix: you should read the context of those lines as well, not just grep it ;)
[02:36] <ScottK> Great.
[02:37] <KingOfDos> thanks anyhow :)
[02:37] <downhill_> anyway, I'm still the wrong person to ask.
[02:37] <KingOfDos> i'm going to sleep now (it's already 03:37)
[02:37] <KingOfDos> ;)
[02:37] <KingOfDos> nn
[02:37] <ScottK> May I suggest filing bugs against ubuntu-doc or talking to sommer about what you learn so we can improve the experience of the next guy.
[02:37] <ScottK> He does most of the work on the Server Guide.
[02:38] <tethridge> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm not sure what I'm looking for in the dpkg log.  Any other suggestions?
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> tethridge, to check what packages you installed from security before your sysstem broke. it might give you some idea where to look
[02:59] <Shanix> downhill_, thanks
[03:01] <downhill_> sure :p good luck. hopefully someone knows
[03:32] <ball> Urgh!
[03:57] <ksoviero> i am having a problem with cups
[03:59] <ksoviero> when ever i install it, on a server in kills that server... all processes, everything stopped when i install cups
[04:00] <ksoviero> anyone?
[04:48] <mib_6cdwrsb0> anyone available for help
[04:48] <ScottK> Depends on what kind of help you need.
[04:48] <ScottK> Best just to ask your question and see.
[04:48] <mib_6cdwrsb0>  a question bout sqiud
[04:48] <mib_6cdwrsb0> does it work
[04:48] <mib_6cdwrsb0> without editing anything
[04:48] <mib_6cdwrsb0> on ubuntu server
[04:49] <mib_6cdwrsb0> Soz Squid*
[04:49] <Nat_RH> Define 'work', depends what you want it to do
[04:49] <mib_6cdwrsb0> work
[04:49] <mib_6cdwrsb0> :D
[04:49] <mib_6cdwrsb0> Just run as it should for my windows pcs
[04:50] <ScottK> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/squid.html
[04:50] <mib_6cdwrsb0> thanks so much
[04:50] <Nat_RH> Define the networks and you should be good...I'd spend a little time reading up on it however
[04:51] <mib_6cdwrsb0> ok thankyou
[04:51] <mib_6cdwrsb0> now, on to ndiswrapper ppl who don't talk to me :(
[04:54] <Nat_RH> Was that a question?
[04:54] <mib_6cdwrsb0> not really :D
[04:54] <mib_6cdwrsb0> well depends, if anyone here can help, yes, if not, no
[04:55] <mib_6cdwrsb0> arg! downloading ubuntu server is a trek @ 151 kb/s
[04:56] <Nat_RH> Better than some others with 6 CD's
[04:56] <mib_6cdwrsb0> true
[04:56] <mib_6cdwrsb0> How come we're the only people talking
[04:56] <mib_6cdwrsb0> you, scottk and me
[04:57] <Nat_RH> Everybody else is sleeping...shhhh or you will disturb them
[04:57] <mib_6cdwrsb0> Ah...
[04:57] <mib_6cdwrsb0> :D
[04:57] <mib_6cdwrsb0> so why are they still here?
[04:57] <Nat_RH> Insomnia
[04:58] <mib_6cdwrsb0> I see :D
[04:58] <mib_6cdwrsb0> In that case, XKCD.com
[04:58] <mib_6cdwrsb0> :D
[04:59] <mib_6cdwrsb0> Now to give you blow by blow of my instalation of ubuntu server
[04:59] <mib_6cdwrsb0> :D
[04:59] <mib_6cdwrsb0> inserts dusty gparted cd
[04:59] <Nat_RH> Fun stuff
[05:00] <mib_6cdwrsb0> ya :D
[05:00] <mib_6cdwrsb0> now to boot from disc...
[05:01] <mib_6cdwrsb0> noo!
[05:01] <mib_6cdwrsb0> my cpu...
[05:02] <mib_6cdwrsb0> Ive been cheated out of about 170mhz....
[05:02] <mib_6cdwrsb0> from 900 to733 :(
[05:04] <mib_6cdwrsb0> I'm scaring you all away...
[05:07] <p_quarles> mib_6cdwrsb0: this is a support channel; take your inane banter elsewhere pls?
[05:08] <mib_6cdwrsb0> ok sorry
[06:33] <Lord_Devi> I've recently suffered a terrible raid5 failure. Interested in improving the reliability of my fileserver when i rebuild it, I've been looking harder into raid10 and even zfs's raid-z. However I am still left wondering which solutions provide the best protection for me. (Yes.. backup.. I know) Anyone have any advice for me?
[08:08] <tolga> hello
[08:09] <tolga> i need help with roundcube. can someone help?
[08:16] <agentk> tolga: Never heard of it but I do see it in the repos. How about you just throw your question into the fray here.
[08:19] <ropetin> tolga: based on the recent spate of security issues with it, I'd avoid it :)  Although it is pretty cool.  What's your problem?
[08:38] <UndertakerX2> How can i download files from a svn server to my ubuntu lamp server
[08:41] <ropetin> UndertakerX2: svn checkout
[08:41] <ropetin> Probably
[08:45] <UndertakerX2> svn checkout url ?
[08:47] <ropetin> svn checkout file:///repository_name/project/trunk project
[08:48] <erichammond1> UndertakerX2: Or, if you just want a copy without all the .svn subdirectories (with no chance to commit changes): svn export ...
[08:50] <UndertakerX2> sorry im trying to learn shell commands still. so i do i download an svn from http://svn.what.cd/repos/project_gazelle to my usr/www folder?
[08:50] <UndertakerX2> so how do i*
[08:51] <UndertakerX2> svn checkout file:///svn.what.cd/repos/project_gazelle
[08:53] <UndertakerX2> is this right? svn checkout http://svn.what.cd/repos/project_gazelle usr/www
[09:15] <UndertakerX2> how do i make my ubuntu lamp server avaliable to my LAN only?
[09:18] <ropetin> UndertakerX2: don't give it a WAN IP and/or don't port forward to it?  What is handling your Internet connection?
[09:36] <Talon^> does anyone know how to get apache2 to work as a common gateway interface with perl, without enabling mod_perl?
[09:36] <Talon^> mod_perl has a problem, which doesnt allow perl buffering to be disabled, thus causing a blank screen on any browser for my streaming content
[09:41] <d-b> hi there how do i disable the add for landscape in 8.10 ?
[09:51] <UndertakerX2> how can i access my ubuntu server with in my network?
[09:51] <d-b> UndertakerX2: ssh ?
[09:52] <UndertakerX2> i want to actually access the content in usr/www like through a web browser on another pc
[09:52] <d-b> /var/www ?
[09:53] <d-b> well what is your other pc running there is winscp or you can use nautilus / other file browsers (which often have support for this).
[09:53] <d-b> alternatively share it using samba or ftp....
[09:54] <UndertakerX2> I dont want it browsed for files, i want it to look like a web site, i want to be bale to access from a win xp computer on the network as if it were a website
[09:56] <UndertakerX2> er actually win 7 comp but you get the idea i suppose?
[09:57] <ropetin> UndertakerX2: You mean what software do you need on the server, what software do you need on the client, or what do you have to type on the client to access it?
[09:57] <UndertakerX2> I want to know what to type for other clients to access it, i have lamp and open ssh, would i really need samba?
[09:58] <ropetin> No, they would use a web browser, like Firefox
[09:59] <d-b> you want to export / via apache ?
[09:59] <ropetin> If the IP of your server is 192.168.0.1, they would type http://192.168.0.1 into their browser
[09:59] <UndertakerX2> how can i figure out mylocal ip rather then my isp ip?
[10:01] <UndertakerX2> nevermind, i got it but i cant access it via 192.168.1.2
[10:01] <ropetin> open a terminal and type, 'sudo ifconfig | more' and look for the one that starts 10,192,172
[10:01] <ropetin> What do you get when  you type that?
[10:02] <UndertakerX2> server not found, does it matter that ubunru is being run as a vm(guest)?
[10:02] <UndertakerX2> sorry it says connection interupted
[10:03] <ropetin> UndertakerX2: it shouldn't matter that it's in a VM, are they both on the same subnet?
[10:04] <UndertakerX2> yep same pc for that matter, im trying to acces it on my xp machine which has ubuntu guest
[10:05] <ropetin> Are you sharing an IP maybe?  How do you have the networking configured in the VM?  What about firewall maybe?
[10:05] <UndertakerX2> let me check but it does seem to be sharing an ip
[10:05] <ropetin> That would be a problem then
[10:07] <UndertakerX2> well the router says im sharing an ip but ipconfig in win and ifconfig in ubuntu report diffrent ips
[10:08] <ropetin> Thats better then
[10:08] <ropetin> DO you have a firewall running on the server?
[10:08] <UndertakerX2> i got it!
[10:08] <UndertakerX2> thanks for all the help ropertin
[10:08] <ropetin> NP!
[10:09] <UndertakerX2> hmm i cant seem to access a sub dir in www? permision prob?
[10:10] <UndertakerX2> dir reports the folder there but win wont access it
[10:10] <UndertakerX2> dir in ubuntu*
[10:12] <UndertakerX2> ubuntu shows me theres files in the the dir
[10:44] <asteyn> Hi, I know it's not officially supported, but is it possible to upgrade ubuntu server lts dapper to the latest one?  Some rough guide somewhere?  I'm fairly skilled with linux so I'll be able to fix whats not supported, but would like to follow some official procedure as far as possible
[10:44] <asteyn> Also, it's mostly running as a lamp type server, any estimates on how many things will break? :P
[10:44] <ikonia> asteyn: just upgrade through the releases
[10:45] <asteyn> ikonia: whats the proper way to do that?
[10:45] <ikonia> !upgrade
[10:45] <asteyn> update-manager-core ?
[10:45] <asteyn> *click*
[10:45] <ikonia> well if your running a server with xwindows you can do that
[10:46] <asteyn> nah, no x ..ok but that link seems to be what I'm looking for
[10:46] <asteyn> thanks :)
[10:46] <ikonia> no problem
[10:49] <UndertakerX2> how do i move a set of files and folders from one folder to another
[10:50] <ikonia> UndertakerX2: with the "mv" command
[10:51] <ikonia> UndertakerX2: if your unsure of basic command line interaction, running the ubuntu desktop CD maybe a better learning experience as you can use a solid desktop environment while experimenting with the command line
[10:52] <UndertakerX2> yes im aware but im not interested in a desktop.
[10:53] <UndertakerX2> thanks for the tips though :)
[10:53] <ikonia> the desktop may make your learning experience easier
[10:54] <ikonia> eg: if there is a problem you can use some of the tools to fix the problem then go back and understand how that happened
[10:54] <ikonia> if you're lacking basic command line awareness of commands like "mv" then it will not be possible for people to talk you through fixing all things with a command line as you'd be lacking the experience
[10:55] <ikonia> where as using a desktop to fix a problem people can walk you through that, but then can also explain how that would be done through the command line, but in the mean time you'll have a working system
[10:55] <UndertakerX2> im aware just forgetfull
[10:55] <UndertakerX2> I already have a working system
[10:55] <ikonia> as I said the desktop has an excellent command line interface through terminals, and for learining having  multiple terminals on screen is excellent
[10:55] <ikonia> eg: two terminals open, one to "do" the commands and the other to say check a man page, or the "--help" option of the command etc etc
[10:56] <ikonia> just food for thought
[10:57] <UndertakerX2> ikonia, i apreciate the advice, and i dont want to sound rude, but can you accept that i want to run server edition?
[10:58] <ikonia> I can totally accept that, I find it foolish to do unless you are running on enterprise class kit, as the "home user" kit is really better suited to the desktop vesion, but it's your call if you wish to not use the best tools for the job, and make things hard for yourself
[10:59] <ikonia> and of course you can totally disable X server on the desktop version
[10:59] <UndertakerX2> well lets see, server installs lamp and works out most of the major configuration for me as oposed to hours in desktop
[11:00] <ikonia> UndertakerX2: it's one command in the desktop version "sudo apt-get install mysql-server apache2 php5"
[11:00] <ikonia> UndertakerX2: not really hours of working out
[11:00] <Deeps> actually, it's tasksel install lamp-server
[11:00] <Deeps> or apt-get install lamp-server^
[11:00] <UndertakerX2> well from the tuts i read it never mentioned that
[11:00] <Deeps> to install the lamp-server task
[11:00] <ikonia> Deeps: yes, you can use the meta package
[11:00] <Deeps> which will also perform all post-installation configuration that the server install does too
[11:03] <UndertakerX2> thats cool, and informative, but im quite happy with the server edition, slowly but surley getting the hang of things. how is it that the server is enterprise strength though when there esentially the same thing
[11:03] <UndertakerX2> i am open to learn ;)
[11:04] <Deeps> depends on your definition of enterprise strength
[11:04] <UndertakerX2> well i didnt use the word so i dunno :p
[11:04] <UndertakerX2> use it initally*
[11:06] <Deeps> I believe ikonia meant that it wouldn't be advisable to run ubuntu-desktop on a machine that should be a server in an enterprise environment
[11:07] <UndertakerX2> desktop or server? i understood it as server was enterprise strength?
[11:07] <Deeps> I dont see anyone mentioning enterprise strength in here?
[11:07] <Deeps> (other than you, that is)
[11:08] <UndertakerX2> |04:58| »» [ikonia] I can totally accept that, I find it foolish to do unless you are running on enterprise class kit, as the "home user" kit is really better suited to the desktop vesion, but it's your call if you wish to not use the best tools for the job, and make things hard for yourself
[11:09] <ikonia> sorry was away from the keyboard for a moment
[11:09] <Deeps> indeed, read what I believe to be clarification of what he was saying
[11:09] <UndertakerX2> thats ok just getting educated :)
[11:09] <Deeps> ah the man himself is here now, he can clarify himself :)
[11:10] <ikonia> I meant things like the kernel has been tweaked for things like large memory configuration ( I doubt your running 32GB of ram in your home desktop) home hardware modules such as nvidia chipsets (forcedeath I think - from memory ) are not present
[11:10] <ikonia> (just as an easy example)
[11:11] <UndertakerX2> i actually have 40 gb :p
[11:11] <ikonia> UndertakerX2: you've got 40GB of ram
[11:11] <Nafallo> nafallo@wizard:~$ grep FORCEDETH devel/kernels/ubuntu-hardy/debian/config/i386/config.server
[11:11] <Nafallo> CONFIG_FORCEDETH=m
[11:11] <UndertakerX2> and i dont care much for nvidia chipsets :p
[11:11] <ikonia> Nafallo: oh, it is there - there are others removed
[11:11] <UndertakerX2> but i understand what you mean
[11:12] <UndertakerX2> one last question if ewither one of you kind souls will assits, when i use mv usr/www/trunk /usr/www it says there the same file
[11:13] <ikonia> check if it's a symlink
[11:13] <ikonia> I'm not away of /usr/www/trunk
[11:13] <ikonia> aware
[11:13] <UndertakerX2> it shouldnt be, i downloaded a svn repo and it downloaded trunk folder into www
[11:14] <UndertakerX2> dir shows the folder is there and files inside
[11:14] <ikonia> UndertakerX2: you've probably messed up the svn checkout
[11:14] <Deeps> mv /usr/www/trunk/* /usr/www/
[11:14] <Deeps> may be what you're looking for
[11:14] <ikonia> ooh this is the move command you where looking for
[11:14] <ikonia> I thought you said you wheer familier with it - just forgot ?
[11:15] <UndertakerX2> deeps it says cant start, no such filer or dir
[11:15] <Deeps> you cant move /usr/www/trunk /usr/www becuase it's attempting to move the dir 'trunk' from /usr/www to /usr/www, which isn't a move at all
[11:15] <ikonia> then look at the path
[11:16] <Deeps> UndertakerX2: are you sure your www dir is in /usr and not in /var?
[11:16] <UndertakerX2> smacks myself in the head
[11:16] <UndertakerX2> i think your right
[11:16] <ikonia> come on
[11:16] <ikonia> you said you knew how to do this
[11:16] <ikonia> the error says "no such file"
[11:16] <UndertakerX2> its only 5 am here
[11:16] <ikonia> so ?
[11:16] <UndertakerX2> know , yes , its called forgetting and lack of sleep :p
[11:16] <Deeps> ikonia: easy now
[11:17] <UndertakerX2> thanks deeps
[11:18] <UndertakerX2> actually it is in usr, just checked
[11:18] <ikonia> UndertakerX2 your svn checkout is probably in usr as that's what you told it to do
[11:18] <ikonia> but the apache root should be /var/www
[11:19] <UndertakerX2> hmm alright, usr is the only dir that shows up when i use dir from root
[11:19] <ikonia> I suggest you go to sleep and look at this with fresh set of eyes
[11:20] <UndertakerX2> well once this is done i just need to set up a db and then everything ready to go and ill be working with php which im more a custom to
[11:21] <ikonia> well if your making mistakes due to being tired, go sleep and look at it in the morning with fresh eyes
[11:22] <UndertakerX2> nah for some reason any time i had a major bug in a php script i always figuered it out when i was real tirerd
[11:22] <ikonia> then do it
[11:22] <ikonia> you seem to have conflicting information
[11:22] <ikonia> you said you know what you do - but forget
[11:23] <ikonia> then you know what to do but your making mistakes
[11:23] <ikonia> now you always fix it ?
[11:23] <UndertakerX2> but i have been working with php for years, linux months off and on
[11:23] <UndertakerX2> no i said i fix php errors
[11:23] <UndertakerX2> not linux probs
[11:23] <ikonia> exaclty - so working on it while tired with little experience is not a good idea
[11:23] <UndertakerX2> ok thats nice
[11:23] <ikonia> if you sleep on it, and come back with fresh eyes you'll probably see the problems your self
[11:23] <ikonia> and if not you'll be able to debug it easier with us
[11:25] <UndertakerX2> sure
[11:25] <UndertakerX2> atleast im trying here but lets come down hard on the new guy for trying
[11:25] <ikonia> no-one is coming down hard on you
[11:26] <ikonia> trying is great,
[11:26] <UndertakerX2> well it looks like im not the only one who see it that way
[11:26] <UndertakerX2> but whatever
[11:26] <ikonia> but if your new and your making mistakes becauase your tired it's not a good idea
[11:26] <UndertakerX2> grub time
[12:38] <psteyn> Hi, I just upgraded my ubuntu dapper server to latest lts, and when I try start mysql I get: /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The partition with your_home_directory/mysql/var is too full!
[12:39] <psteyn> but df -h shows my /var parition as only 38% used...and the others are also below 30% use
[12:39] <ikonia> psteyn: have you looked at the file system sizwe ?
[12:39] <ikonia> psteyn: /mysql/var is not /var
[12:39] <ikonia> psteyn: are any of the file systems close to full ?
[12:39] <psteyn> ikonia: no
[12:39] <psteyn> ./var is the fullest at 38% use
[12:40] <ikonia> psteyn: firt thing to do is look at the init script and see what it's actually calling, then run that yourself to get better output
[12:40] <ikonia> psteyn: also look at the syslog and the mysql.err log in /var/log
[12:40] <ikonia> that may give you a better clue
[12:41] <ikonia> psteyn: also look at your /etc/my.cnf (mysql config) to see what directories are required, "too full" could mean "can't write" which is a permissions error
[12:41] <psteyn> nah its an init script error, just commented out the exit for now and seeing if it starts
[12:42] <Deeps> psteyn: might wanna check what datadir is set to in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[12:46] <psteyn> ok
[13:13] <psteyn> ok, now my php5 isn't loading its modules..even though the Loaded Configuration File 	/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini  has extension=mysql.so  extension=mysqli.so  extension=libgd.so  extension=gd.so
[13:13] <psteyn> any ideas?
[13:20] <UndertakerX2> are there any other file editors for command line, tried using the default vi but doesnt play well with my keyboard when suing vi in vmware or win xp
[13:20] <Deeps> emacs, nano, pico
[13:20] <Deeps> are all popular choices
[13:20] <UndertakerX2> ok thanks deeps
[13:26] <andol> UndertakerX2: If you are going to install emacs on a server you might want to take a look at the package emacs22-nox. That way you won't have to install all kinds of X dependencies.
[13:28] <UndertakerX2> THANKS, NANO S WORKING GREAT THOUGH
[13:28] <UndertakerX2> cap lock sorry
[13:37] <techsupport> hi, little problem with screen
[13:37] <techsupport> errrr , wrong nick
[13:37] <orudie> screen -r
[13:37] <orudie> There are several suitable screens on:
[13:37] <orudie>         18928.pts-0.linode      (02/06/09 20:42:17)     (Detached)
[13:37] <orudie>         2739.pts-0.linode       (02/02/09 21:43:42)     (Detached)
[13:37] <orudie> Type "screen [-d] -r [pid.]tty.host" to resume one of them.
[13:38] <UndertakerX2> When i try to access my server on my xp machine(ubuntu guest), no problem, but if i try to access it from a win 7 pv on my lan i get connection interupted error. Whats wrong?
[13:38] <Mohammad[B]> ubottu, flood
[13:39] <orudie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115172/
[13:39] <orudie> broblem ^ with screen
[13:45] <UndertakerX2> When i try to access my server on my xp machine(ubuntu guest), no problem, but if i try to access it from a win 7 pv on my lan i get connection interupted error. Whats wrong?
[13:47] <psteyn> awesome, got the upgrade done...went very smoothly I'm impressed.  From dapper to latest, only a few nags.  Last thing, I'm running 64bit server with 4gbs of ram but it's only showing around 2.5...I know how to fix this in the kernel config, but whats the ubuntu way to get this done
[13:47] <psteyn> I saw a post saying I should install: apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[13:47] <psteyn> Would that do the trick?
[13:48] <UndertakerX2> psteyn: are you running ubuntu as a a virtual machine?
[13:49] <psteyn> no, live server
[13:49] <UndertakerX2> k just checking
[13:49] <psteyn> currently my uname -r shows: 2.6.24-23-server
[13:50] <psteyn> and its running a dual core opteron
[14:03] <psteyn> how can I get 4gb or more working on ubuntu server?
[14:18] <LMJ> psteyn : choose a 64bits system
[14:19] <LMJ> psteyn : by reading, i've seen you already have it
[14:21] <psteyn> yeah, as far as I can tell it is 64bit already
[14:21] <psteyn> but still dont see all ram :|
[14:21] <psteyn> oh well, im tired now, will worry about that later
[14:21] <psteyn> cheers, tnx for the help guys
[14:21] <LMJ> k
[14:21] <LMJ> ccu
[14:21] <LMJ> cu*
[14:57] <Deeps> bug 283543
[16:12] <bn43> hi all - I have been using ubuntu server for file serving and internet gateway but now have to monitory heavy internet users - draw up a weekly report on each host - loaded ntop and still tryin to figure it out - it loses data on reboot
[16:12] <bn43> is anyone an ntop guru here?
[16:20] <bn43> anyone?
[16:27] <CoolCold> by users u mean ips ?
[16:28] <bn43> yes
[16:28] <CoolCold> if yes, u can try to count bytes with iptables
[16:28] <CoolCold> then read them and export data to rrd
[16:29] <CoolCold> but i guess there should be more simple way
[16:29] <imo> hello
[16:30] <imo> how can i change my my DHCP to Static IP  ??
[16:31] <imo> sorry i installed first time ubuntu server
[16:31] <CoolCold> not sure about ubuntu, but in debian - edit /etc/network/interfaces
[16:31] <Deeps> imo: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[16:31] <imo> thanks
[16:32] <imo> where can i find a help file for ubuntu server  ?
[16:32] <imo> maybe in german :) ?
[16:32] <Deeps> https://help.ubuntu.com/
[16:33] <imo> thanks
[16:36] <Kartagis> can anybody help me about roundcube please?
[16:40] <CoolCold> and what the problem is?
[16:42] <Kartagis> does roundcube check IMAP folders automatically?
[16:47] <imo> i have open the file /etc/network/interfaces with nano and i have change the lines
[16:48] <imo> but now i dont get any ip :D ?
[16:48] <imo> i have changed auto eth0
[16:48] <imo> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[16:48] <imo> to
[16:49] <imo> iface eth0 inet static
[16:49] <imo> 	address 192.168.178.150
[16:49] <imo> 	netmask 255.255.255.0
[16:49] <imo> 	gateway 192.168.178.1
[17:04] <imo> can anybody help me please ?
[17:04] <imo> i have read the instruction and id do this
[17:04] <imo> but i dont get any ip
[17:05] <Nat_RH> Restart networking?
[17:06] <imo> i restart the server
[17:06] <alex_joni> imo: check "ifconfig" and look what it says
[17:06] <imo> i checked
[17:07] <imo> i dont have any ip
[17:07] <imo> only localhst
[17:07] <imo> its strange
[17:08] <Nat_RH> /var/log/messages contain any errors?
[17:08] <alex_joni> that means it didn't detect the card
[17:08] <alex_joni> probably a missing driver or such
[17:08] <imo> no
[17:08] <imo> then i use dhcp
[17:08] <alex_joni> imo: check "dmesg | grep eth"
[17:08] <imo> i get a ip
[17:09] <imo> how i tip | ??
[17:10] <Deeps> imo: did you remove the 'auto eth0' as well?
[17:10] <imo> on ubuntu server i have only console or desktop ?
[17:11] <imo> yes i remove auto eth0
[17:11] <imo> i have only
[17:11] <Deeps> yep you probably want that in there still
[17:11] <Deeps> auto eth0 means - automatically configure eth0 on boot using the settings in this file
[17:11] <imo> iface eth0 inet static
[17:11] <imo> 	address 192.168.178.150
[17:11] <imo> 	netmask 255.255.255.0
[17:11] <imo> 	gateway 192.168.178.1
[17:11] <Deeps> put the auto eth0 back in and then restart networking and it'll work as you're expecting it to
[17:12] <imo> no i need static ip
[17:12] <Deeps> i know
[17:12] <Deeps> auto eth0 means it will automatically configure eth0 on boot using the settings in this file
[17:12] <imo> ahh ok
[17:14] <imo> how can i restart the network ?
[17:14] <imo> or must reboot ?
[17:14] <Deeps> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:14] <imo> yes
[17:14] <imo> i have ip :)
[17:15] <imo> thanks
[17:15] <Deeps> the reason it didnt appear in ifconfig before was because it hadn't been configured
[17:15] <Deeps> `ifconfig -a` lists all network interfaces, configured and 'up' or not
[17:16] <Deeps> an alternative to restarting the entire network would have been to simply `ifup eth0`, and that would bring up the eth0 interface based on the settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:16] <Deeps> `ifdown eth0` would take it down too, so you can edit interfaces, ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 and update that interface witohut a reboot or restarting the whole network
[17:17] <imo> ok
[17:17] <imo> thanks
[17:23] <imo> how can i install openVPN ?
[18:52] <DogWater> I'm going to ask a quick / quirky question. If you guys ordered a hosted server from a datacenter with 8.10 - server on it would you expect them to install Gnome / vnc on it?
[18:53] <PurplePlus> Not really
[18:54] <genii> Isn't that what ssh is for?
[18:57] <DogWater> Right, I was just wondering. Someone wrote a bad review for a company because they just installed the base-os
[19:00] <DogWater> kinda wierd that these RHCE guys get trained to be all GUI intensive
[19:01] <genii> Obviously the reviewer likes his gui tools or so.
[19:05] <DogWater> I mean you can install that stuff from ssh is all i'm saying
[19:06] <DogWater> i believe its even all grouped together
[19:07] <genii> DogWater: Yeah the point of having a barebones cli box is so you can set it up however you like
[19:07] <genii> Although some web based gui would make more sense than Gnome/vnc or so
[19:08] <DogWater> yeah but then you run into security issues with webmin, etc
[19:11] <antdedyet> there is also the ebox framework, which has had some comments about it's ability to manage a ubuntu server via apache serving an http front-end and with some of ebox's back-end management plugins.
[19:12] <genii> Webmin was deprecated and i think now removed. ebox is the supposed replacement but I do not think 8.04 for instance shipped with a working package of it
[19:12] <Nafallo> !webmin
[19:12] <genii> For the brave there is also manual install of cipux
[19:12] <antdedyet> genii: not sure on the 8.04 version shipped, if any. it's in 8.10 though.
[19:13] <genii> !info ebox hardy
[19:13] <antdedyet> there you go.
[19:14] <genii> :)
[19:20] <DogWater> ive seen some people also try to install cpanel on ubuntu ;-)
[19:20] <DogWater> good times
[19:21] <antdedyet> IIRC, some of ubuntu's developers were involved with the ebox development
[19:22] <antdedyet> it should gain a little functional merit, from that aspect, one could assume
[20:10] <ethana2> hello, wooooooo
[20:11] <wooooooo> Hi
[20:12] <wooooooo> I installed ubuntu server on my computer and then installed a gnome desktop environment on top of that.  By doing so, I wished to be able to have just the CLI of the server for raw processing power, but also be able to open up a GUI to do other things.
[20:13] <wooooooo> my problem is that when I load up the ubuntu server, it automatically goes to the GUI.  I would like to go to just the CLI first.  Does anyone know how I can set the GUI to not load automatically????
[20:15] <Deeps> at a guess, update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[20:16] <ethana2> Deeps: so you're saying just put 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove' into the terminal?
[20:16] <Deeps> `update-rc.d -f gdm remove`, rather
[20:16] <Deeps> urr
[20:16] <Deeps> `sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove`
[20:18] <wooooooo> alright
[20:18] <wooooooo> thanks
[20:18] <wooooooo> I'll try it
[20:23] <wooooooo> it partially worked, but now my sound is disabled 'either because you have no sound devices or your sound card is not configured'
[20:23] <wooooooo> and my user switcher failed to load
[20:23] <Deeps> your 'user switcher'?
[20:24] <wooooooo> yeah
[20:24] <wooooooo> I guess that that'd be what asks for my user name and password
[20:24] <wooooooo> and I could guess that that failed to load because I already logged into the server before going to the GUI
[20:24] <ethana2> wooooooo: yes.
[20:25] <Deeps> you should just get a text login prompt at boot time now
[20:25] <wooooooo> yeah, I did
[20:25] <ethana2> yeah, then it'd be a bug if you /did/ see the gdm login screen
[20:25] <wooooooo> any idea what's going on with the sound card????
[20:26] <ethana2> generally servers probably don't need sound
[20:26] <ethana2> I'd guess it just skipped that
[20:26] <wooooooo> yeah, but it worked in the GUI before I put in that line to get rid of the automatic GUI start
[20:26] <ethana2> hmmmm
[20:27] <Deeps> `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start` will start up the gui for you again
[20:27] <ethana2> Deeps: so not just 'gdm'?
[20:27] <wooooooo> gdm didn't start
[20:27] <wooooooo> I used 'startx' to get here
[20:27] <Deeps> that may work too, but wouldn't be the recommended way
[20:27] <ethana2> is it a good idea to use 'sudo' for that?
[20:27] <wooooooo> it said I didn't have the permissions when I tried to start with 'gdm'
[20:27] <Deeps> ethana2: that may work too, but wouldn't be the recommended way
[20:28] <Deeps> ethana2: and yes, you need to start a system service with sudo
[20:28] <ethana2> hmm
[20:28] <ethana2> ahh
[20:28] <ethana2> but it doesn't run it as root then
[20:28] <Deeps> no
[20:28] <ethana2> oh, ok, good
[20:28] <ethana2> wooooooo: take that command and alias it
[20:28] <wooooooo> so
[20:28] <wooooooo> 'sudo gdm'
[20:28] <wooooooo> ????
[20:28] <ethana2> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[20:28] <Deeps> `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start`
[20:28] <ethana2> but first
[20:28] <Deeps> will bring up your login chooser screen
[20:28] <ethana2> gksu ~/.bashrc
[20:28] <ethana2> I'm going to make this simpler for you
[20:29] <wooooooo> k
[20:29] <wooooooo> lol
[20:29] <ethana2> whoops
[20:29] <wooooooo> ????
[20:29] <ethana2> gksu gedit ~/.bashrc
[20:29] <ethana2> sorry about that
[20:29] <Deeps> bad idea btw
[20:29] <wooooooo> what does that do????
[20:29] <Deeps> using aliases to perform system tasks
[20:29] <wooooooo> I don't mind it bringing up my chooser login screen if it wants to
[20:30] <ethana2> Deeps: wait, can non-root apps modify .bashrc?
[20:30] <Deeps> ethana2: yep
[20:30] <ethana2> holy crap
[20:30] <ethana2> there goes all my security
[20:30] <ethana2> how do I change that?
[20:30]  * ethana2 modifies permissions on his .bashrc
[20:30] <Deeps> well, it's typically owned by you
[20:30] <Deeps> so your user account can edit it
[20:30] <ethana2> yeah, I use that for all my system admin actions
[20:30] <Deeps> if your account gets compromised, it can be editted
[20:30] <ethana2> I can't have that able to be modified
[20:31] <Deeps> if you dont want your useraccount able to modify it, change ownership to root, but allow your user still able to read it
[20:31] <ethana2> k, set to read only
[20:31] <ethana2> oh
[20:31]  * ethana2 does that
[20:31] <Deeps> bash may cry at login time though
[20:31] <wooooooo> alright
[20:31] <wooooooo> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[20:32] <wooooooo> I'll try that and see what it does
[20:32] <Deeps> do that without X running
[20:32] <ethana2> k, done
[20:32] <ethana2> I'm glad you told me that, Deeps
[20:33] <Deeps> ls -la ~
[20:33] <Deeps> shows you all the files in your home directory, and the relevant perms + ownership on them
[20:33] <ethana2> list -la ~
[20:33] <ethana2> ah, k
[20:33] <Deeps> ls, not list
[20:34] <ethana2> list on my rigs
[20:34] <ethana2> ;)
[20:34]  * Deeps rolls eyes
[20:34] <ethana2> I just wish long arguments didn't have two dashes
[20:34] <Deeps> an alias to make a command longer, logic--
[20:34] <ethana2> an alias to support my mom over the phone
[20:34] <ethana2> logic++
[20:35] <Deeps> haha
[20:35] <ethana2> the CLI doesn't have to be scary
[20:35] <ethana2> I also have a remove() function that moves files to the trash
[20:36] <Deeps> fun
[20:36] <ethana2> I want to start my own distro
[20:36] <ethana2> Ethbuntu : So easy to use, it's not unix anymore.
[20:37] <ethana2> wooooooo, I invoke thee
[20:39] <Deeps> have a look at linux mint, it's attempting to do that
[20:39] <ethana2> well, it goes the wrong way on several things
[20:40] <wooooooo> Thank you, Deeps
[20:40] <wooooooo> it worked
[20:40] <Deeps> np
[20:40] <ethana2> I'm going to test the permission changes I made to my .bashrc
[20:40] <ethana2> by logging out and in
[20:40] <wooooooo> but I have another question
[20:40] <ethana2> brb
[20:40] <wooooooo> do you have any idea how I could get wireless internet on here
[20:40] <Deeps> iwconfig i guess
[20:41] <wooooooo> the server doesn't seem to be detecting that
[20:41] <wooooooo> alright
[20:41] <Deeps> not sure how you'd go about configuring it in the interfaces file though
[20:41] <wooooooo> shawn@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig
[20:41] <wooooooo> lo        no wireless extensions.
[20:41] <wooooooo> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[20:41] <wooooooo> wmaster0  no wireless extensions.
[20:41] <wooooooo> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:""
[20:41] <wooooooo>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[20:41] <wooooooo>           Tx-Power=0 dBm
[20:41] <Deeps> not many servers run on wireless
[20:41] <wooooooo>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2352 B
[20:41] <wooooooo>           Power Management:off
[20:41] <wooooooo>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[20:41] <wooooooo>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[20:41] <wooooooo>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[20:41] <Deeps> google friend, google is your friend
[20:41] <wooooooo> shawn@ubuntu:~$
[20:41] <wooooooo> mmhmm
[20:41] <wooooooo> heh
[20:41] <wooooooo> alright
[20:41] <Deeps> as is paste.ubuntu.com
[20:42] <Deeps> instead of pasting it all in here
[20:42] <ethana2> works fine
[20:42] <Deeps> cool
[20:57] <wooooooo> It appears that I didn't have a driver that I needed
[21:09] <Deeps> iwconfig sees wlan0 as being a wireless device, that means you have wireless support, you just need to configure it
[21:09] <wooooooo> hm
[21:17] <wooooooo> hm
[21:17] <wooooooo> it doesn't seem to be working
[21:25] <wooooooo> "unknown hardware address type 801"
[21:25] <wooooooo> I tried to configure my wireless network, but it doesn't seem to be working
[21:25] <wooooooo> any ideas????
[21:26] <ethana2> wooooooo: run 'lspci', put it on paste.ubuntu.com, and put the link here
[21:26] <ethana2> it's likely to be at least marginally helpful
[21:28] <ethana2> remember to use your mouse to copy and paste with the terminal
[21:28] <ethana2> as ctrl+c does something a little different...
[21:29] <wooooooo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115428/
[21:30] <ethana2> Deeps: any thoughts?
[21:31] <ethana2> ah yes, broadcom...
[21:31] <wooooooo> Deep thoughts  :)  :)
[21:31] <ethana2> in gnome, try the restricted driver manager
[21:31] <Deeps> what command gives you that "unknown hardware address type 801" error?
[21:32] <wooooooo> shawn@ubuntu:~$ sudo dhclient wlan0
[21:32] <Deeps> have you configured wlan0 onto an essid?
[21:33] <wooooooo> nope
[21:33] <Deeps> you need to do that first
[21:33] <wooooooo> how do I do that????
[21:33] <Deeps> google iwconfig wireless ubuntu
[21:34] <Deeps> http://www.dailygeeks.com/howto/manual-wireless-configuration-with-iwconfig-in-ubuntu/
[21:34] <ethana2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[21:35] <Deeps> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[21:35] <Deeps> you can skip past anything about driver configuration, your drivers are fine
[21:35] <Deeps> you just need to configure with iwconfig
[21:40] <wooooooo> I did lshw and didn't see a driver connected to the device
[21:40] <wooooooo> configuration: broadcast=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
[21:41] <Deeps> last time: you dont have a driver issue, you simple need to configure wlan0 with iwconfig
[21:42] <wooooooo> alright
[22:13] <wooooooo1> Deeps
[22:14] <wooooooo1> it still doesn't work
[22:14] <wooooooo1> shouldn't my wireless be able to just see the available connection????
[22:14] <hads> iwlist
[22:15] <wooooooo1> hm....and I have my network manager in the panel and it shows eth0 and lo as my only options
[22:16] <wooooooo1> shawn@ubuntu:~$ iwlist wlan0 scanning
[22:16] <wooooooo1> wlan0     No scan results
[22:16] <hads> Oh, if you're using network-manager you might get more help in a channel that uses GUIs more.
[22:17] <wooooooo1> ah.  The reason I'm here is that I'm installing a GUI on top of the server
[22:17] <wooooooo1> and I'm trying to get wireless capability
[22:18] <Deeps> if you're using the gui to configure anything, #ubuntu is where you need to ask
[22:18] <wooooooo1> alright
[22:50] <larswey> How do i disable the monitor sleep function?
[23:31] <CoolCold> btw, is there is way to check which binaries/libs where installed 'by hand' ?
[23:31] <CoolCold> i guess it could be done with checking md5sums