[00:30] so weird, half my ubuntu-desktop packages got removed :/ [00:38] !info bzr [00:38] bzr (source: bzr): easy to use distributed version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.9-1 (jaunty), package size 4919 kB, installed size 16612 kB [00:56] I installed Jaunty, and I noticed that "System -> Preferences -> Sound" has disappeared... how/where can I find it? is this a bug, or a change-feature I missed? :P [00:58] all updates can be installed... is this something going on with large portions of early jaunty people or is this a personal problem? [00:59] kazagistar has to do with the new pulse stuff going on I'm thinking [00:59] there is the volume control in the panel [01:00] that should have the same functionality I guess [01:01] I want to disable beeps and replace with window-flashes, which are much less obtrusive [01:01] why am I running a partial distribution upgrade right now...? [01:02] kazagistar: now known as Notifications [01:03] how do you change these notifications? [01:18] i just upgraded to the latest version of X in the jaunty repos and it seems that I no longer have 1 pixel precision for my mouse [01:18] anyone know how I might fix that? [03:00] mmm I like the potential new notifications [03:18] Is there a known problem with iwl wifi and WPA2 TKP+AES ? The live-CD is failing to connect to a hidden network, and when it re-prompts for the key, it doesn't offer any WPA options === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [04:27] hello.. i'm trying to use smartdimmer to dim my screen, it keeps saying "init_nvclock() failed! [04:27] " [04:27] any ideas? [04:34] is ext4 stable enough to use in production? [04:48] have they released alpha 4 yet ? [04:49] rainmanp7, ya [04:49] ok does it have btrfs support in it ? [04:49] mp clue [04:49] no* [04:49] crap ok [05:39] ugh, stupid pop-out volume control is ... stupid. [05:40] It's horizontal, and it scrolls backwards. [05:41] You scroll up... it moves left, to lower volume. [05:44] DanaG: Haha, interesting find [05:45] that seems to be normal gtk behavior [05:45] It's not normal for a volume thingy to be horizontal, though. [05:45] and it makes sense imho for most horizontal sliders [05:46] And where's the thing to choose what volume control the hotkeys control? [05:46] s/what/which/ [05:46] oh yeah, and the PA 0.9.15 PPA doesn't have paprefs, which is one of the big things changed in it. [05:46] in 0.9.15. [05:52] in Intrepid, when I wanted to system beeps to instead cause the windows to flash, I could set that option under "System -> Preferences -> Sound". Where can I do this in Jaunty? [05:54] I don't think you can. [05:54] gnome-sound-preferences is gone. [05:56] I see [05:56] I'm rather irked about that myself, too. [05:56] is this a bug? a regression? should I report it? [05:56] No way to choose what device the volume hotkeys affect. [05:57] I'd say it's a regression -- but search for an existing bug on it first. [05:57] a'ight [05:58] DanaG, there is a vertical volume control thing [05:58] Or at least there is for me, It's in the notification area. [05:59] Not for me, oddly enough. [06:00] gnome-volume-control-applet <-- running process [06:01] aah, gnome-media package. [06:02] but yes, not being able to choose which channels the hotkeys control is annoying >.< [06:02] At least they brought back the old volume control app. [06:03] PA still doesn't give any way to choose WHICH subdevice to use for capture. [06:03] yup, i'd started using alsamixer =x [06:03] and just silencing the beeps is kinda bad... they are useful, but I would rather my screen flash then to beep at everyone around [06:03] Time to dig around in regedit! [06:03] s/regedit/gconf-editor/ [06:03] It's a joke. =þ [06:04] My sides are splitting O.o [06:05] I also wish PA had a way to say "Use keyboard X to control volume mixer Y" [06:06] PA needs alot really.. [06:07] It also needs not to crash on resume from suspend. [06:07] That sure is an odd way of swearing. =þ [06:07] lol [06:07] would be better as ¡!¡!¡!¡!¡! [06:08] ø.Ø [06:08] ¿? [06:08] ··· enough! =P [06:08] what package would this bug be under, you think? [06:09] I can't find anything like it, so I am submitting a new one [06:09] hmm... [06:09] !find gnome-sound-preferences intrepid [06:10] Package/file gnome-sound-preferences does not exist in intrepid [06:10] !find gnome-sound-properties intrepid [06:10] File gnome-sound-properties found in capplets-data, gnome-control-center [06:10] that'd be where. [06:20] posted bug report (326778)... now I just hope this gets fixed before class on Monday, so I can type without fear during boring lectures :P [06:23] bug 326778 [06:23] Launchpad bug 326778 in gnome-control-center "system beep can't be changed to screen flash in Jaunty due to missing sound preferences" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326778 [06:23] oh yeah, if it's the old PC speaker thing, you can blacklist snd_pcsp and pcspkr [06:27] * DanaG wishes somebody would make an array-mic plugin for ALSA. [06:27] Something to do noise cancelling. [06:28] Oh yeah, and even PA 0.9.15 still doesn't see my digital port on my USB sound card OR my HDMI port on my video card. [06:28] er, digital on USB is not a separate device. =þ [06:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/311932 [06:37] Ubuntu bug 311932 in linux "SD card insertion is not detected on HP EliteBook 6930p" [Low,In progress] [06:37] * DanaG subscribes [06:38] * DanaG neeeeeds that to be fixxed. [06:43] so, will Jaunty get 2.6.29? I sure hope so. [06:43] It has lots of fixes for my laptop's product line. [06:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284319 [06:47] Ubuntu bug 284319 in linux "mute, brightness buttons on new HP 6930p laptop" [Undecided,New] [06:53] I sure hope they'll get 2.6.29. [07:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/326607 [07:07] Ubuntu bug 326607 in gnome-media "Volume capplet gone from notification area" [Low,Incomplete] [07:10] Plese make it stay out of the notification area :) [07:12] RAOF, agreed. But i'd rather a vertical one in the notification area than a horizontal one out of it ^^ [07:13] And the preferences thing is gone, too. [07:14] No way to choose default mixer device. [07:14] Luckily, I had it set correctly beforehand. [07:15] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040988&page=25 [07:16] HEh, question.... if you need SAK to kill Xorg when ctrl-alt-backspace is disabled... then how the heck do you SAK within a guest in a VM? [07:16] Host+Backspace is ctrl-alt-backspace... but there's no guest sysrq. [07:58] Okay, this is mildly freakish. A dev release with not a single package updated in more than 24 hours [07:58] or is it something broken on my side? [08:03] ccooke: There have been no updates recently for me either, but packages are definitely being uploaded https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2009-February/thread.html [08:27] Ooooh, my hda-intel card supports two independent capture streams at the same time. [08:28] Am I the only one having problems with kwin after recent updates? it gets stuck and starts eating cpu soon afte starting. [08:30] Alexia_Death: when you log in, you get your wallpaper but nothing else happens? [08:30] if so, that one's known. [08:30] Bug 362344 I think [08:31] Error: Launchpad bug 362344 could not be found [08:31] no [08:31] 326344 [08:31] Transposed :-) [08:31] I get more than wallpaper, In fact the whole plasma seems to load, but then kwin starts eating resources and thats it. [08:31] I can kill kwin and use the applications and the widgets but thats no fun [08:32] Alexia_Death: possibly that's the difference between Gnome and KDE [08:32] So im back in gnome :( [08:32] Gnome works fine. [08:32] does gnome have compiz? [08:32] no [08:33] Im using metacity in gnime [08:33] that'll do it. [08:33] Check out bug 326344 [08:33] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [08:33] So its compositing in general. [08:33] yeah [08:34] what graphics card do you have? [08:34] nvidia [08:34] it definitely affects nvidia... [08:34] there's a workaround [08:34] in the bug [08:34] ok [08:34] Ill see [08:34] annoying, but it works [08:34] PulseAudio "Network" tab is disabled with PA 0.9.15. [08:35] It also still doesn't support multiple subdevices in 0.9.15-test1. [08:39] Odd. There are several packages listed in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2009-February/thread.html that were changed in the last 30 hours or so... and I've seen none of them show up. [08:39] (several packages that would upgrade things on this laptop, that is) [08:40] ccooke: any permanent workaround? [08:40] Alexia_Death: downgrade the packages involved? [08:41] metacity can do compositing, too. [08:45] Anyone know where to get autoconf 2.63? [08:56] DanaG: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/autoconf/ ? [08:57] eeh, I just changed what version the pulseaudio source claimed to need. [09:04] http://pastebin.com/f5f560b3 [09:05] Hmm [09:06] I wonder if that bug affects anything that does direct rendering. [09:06] I have several 3d games installed through wine. [09:11] oh...kay, so it detects the HDMI and the secondary capture stream on my hda-intel... but won't use either of them. [09:12] Well, that sucks. [09:14] * Alexia_Death goes to file a bug with kmail about using popups that block for not being able to connect. [09:41] sound is broken again [09:41] pulseaudio is not started on login and when it starts all hardware outputs are muted again. [10:06] ugh, stupid new PA shows my app at some <100% volume, AND my card at <100% volume... [10:06] ... and if I increase the app volume, it increases the CARD volume! [10:06] How stupid. [10:07] Yeah, I know Vista does it that way... but it's no less stupid there. [10:07] DanaG: lucky you [10:07] I have NO sound this morning [10:07] just beeper [10:08] I think I may file a bug on that confusing volume control. [10:09] if you do, please fw it upstream too, and link both [10:09] Upstream to where? [10:09] Oh yeah, so now my app volume changes when I move it to a different device... and if I decrease the app volume, it turns down the device volume. [10:09] to the trac you were seeing yesterday [10:10] my Card volume, auto-magicly mutes [10:10] every few minutes [10:10] LOL [10:10] brb. quick brf [10:11] Ugh, and it's all garbagey garbled crap. [10:11] Like it's being played through a very long metal pipe. [10:15] Oh, and muting the USB sound card.... doesn't mute it. [10:15] oh wait, that was input tab. [10:17] so guys the new volume control is going to be there in jaunty right? i read somewhere reently that it has been deferred [10:17] good, because it sucks. [10:18] Bad: they haven't brought back the old one, though. [10:18] DanaG: but if the bugs are sorted out in the 3 months remaining then it is a good step fwd [10:18] i would like to see it make it [10:18] The new audio preferences thing.... [10:18] ... claims to replace pavucontrol, but really can't. [10:19] Can you move different apps to different devices? Nope. [10:19] Over the network? Nope. [10:19] and also what about the telepathy integrating in ubuntu is it there for jaunty? on launchpad blueprints it is having status of proposed for feisty but deferred [10:19] so will it be in jaunty? [10:19] I'd rather have telepathy... in my brain. =þ [10:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/322909 [10:29] Ubuntu bug 322909 in pulseaudio "gnome-volume-control in Jaunty has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio" [Undecided,New] [10:35] I have pavucontrol installed! it give me WAY more control [10:40] I do think it a bit funny that I have two "ADI198x Analog" capture devices, with no way to tell which is "Capture" and which is "Capture 1". [10:40] I can capture from two different sources at the same time. [10:40] I have a problem with kubuntu jaunty and composite with kwin. It crashes and I have to kill Xorg. /var/log/messages reports [ 3761.402268] nepomukservices[13237]: segfault at 4 ip b7d7b852 sp bf988f50 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.4.3[b7d28000+225000] [10:42] Cruster: you are probably seeing bug 326344. [10:42] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344/+text) [10:42] weird....searched for it [10:43] didn't find anything [10:43] ROFL there goes LP timeout again [10:43] * DanaG is using ALSA 1.0.19. [10:43] I really have bad luck with this bot, don't I. [10:44] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [10:44] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [10:44] Ubuntu bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [High,Confirmed] [10:44] Ha. Thanks, ubottu. [10:44] thanks, i'll look into it [10:45] damn it! [10:45] I'm going to fix that subject [10:45] it doesn't REALLY cover the bug [10:45] Speaking of topic... I only see 1/3 of the line of text, vertically, in Pidgin. [10:45] It's like they've hardcoded the size of the topic line area. [10:46] screenshot [10:46] I don't get what you say [10:46] mine is horizontal [10:46] and of course doesn't fit [10:46] speaking of pidgin, does it crash for everyone with PA too? [10:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/317897 [10:46] Picture taking a line of text, and then chopping it in half, along a horizontal line through the middle. [10:46] Ubuntu bug 317897 in pulseaudio "pidgin crash with Pulse Audio" [Undecided,New] [10:47] http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/Desktop/fulldesktop.png.php [10:47] here is mine [10:47] so, is it safe to downgrade xorg-xserver? [10:48] Cruster: if you still have -0 in cache [10:48] sure [10:48] Yes, you can downgrade to 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu1. [10:48] HP netbook theme: www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/screenshot-glassybleu.png [10:48] otherwise, just run xfix [10:48] My theme: www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/screenshot-orange.png [10:48] what does xfix do? [10:48] www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/another-screenshot.png [10:49] That glassy-bleu is rather nice. [10:49] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/i386/xserver-xorg-core/2:1.5.99.902-0ubuntu1 [10:49] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/amd64/xserver-xorg-core/2:1.5.99.902-0ubuntu1 [10:50] High-DPI display is nice. [10:50] BUGabundo: pidgin crashes for me yes. [10:51] BUGabundo: moved back to kopete. [10:51] My pidgin works. [10:51] I just have sounds disabled, perhaps. [10:51] even with that [10:51] PA 0.9.15 also breaks zerconf network stuff, by the way. [10:51] its a two part bug [10:52] You see the topic line in my screenshot? [10:52] BUGabundo: it hangs for me when a sound is played [10:52] exaile would still right to it, even it all music plugins disable [10:52] and then there was a SSL prob [10:52] and anytime pidgin makes sounds, it crass [10:52] DanaG: I guess I'll go back to 9.14 [10:52] eheh [10:53] Yeah... PA 0.9.15 doesn't add anything for me. [10:53] Cruster: xfix just reconfigures Xorg to not use prop driver [10:53] The "on-the-fly profile switching" -- has no UI. [10:53] The "detect more than one subdevice" does not work. [10:54] DanaG: I don't see that line break [10:54] humm DPI maybe? [10:54] it can be hardcoded to pidgin [10:54] mine is at 96 [10:54] yours? [10:55] I have mine at 145. Actual screen is 147. [10:56] DanaG: is your GPM broken? [10:56] !info gpm [10:56] !info gnome-power-manager [10:56] gpm (source: gpm): General Purpose Mouse interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.4-3.1ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 209 kB, installed size 548 kB [10:56] on that screenshot, there's the nasty stop mark over it [10:56] gnome-power-manager (source: gnome-power-manager): frontend for gnome-powermanager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.24.0-0ubuntu14 (jaunty), package size 1876 kB, installed size 11220 kB [10:56] yeah [10:56] the double click bug [10:56] eheheeh [10:57] if you click to fast on it, it will break [10:57] never reported it [10:57] I guess its time for it [10:57] Which thing? [10:57] Oh, the exclamation point is update-notifier. [10:57] the one between your firefox and zero conf [10:57] no no no [10:57] the one between your firefox and zero conf [10:57] That's brightness applet. [10:57] yep [10:58] apporting it now [10:58] For a while, I had the issue where 100% brightness would give "unable to retrieve LCD brightness" [10:58] Every other increment would do that. Brightness controls themselves worked fine, though. [10:58] humm should I file on gpm or gnome applets? [10:58] Oh, or perhaps those screenshots were taken during the time when brightness control was broken. [10:59] Oooooh, shiny bleu. [10:59] Publicly available... but not publicized. [11:00] I prefer my bright theme, though. [11:01] I keep changing mine [11:03] ok i downgraded and works fine [11:04] Another major bug I hahave aevaefasdfasdfaserasedfadararrarargh keyboard lag [11:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600 [11:04] Ubuntu bug 314600 in fglrx-installer "fglrx versions newer than 8.543 cause system hang and panic" [Undecided,Incomplete] [11:05] Hahahah! [11:05] Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them with the "Sound Preferences" under the System-Preferences menu. [11:05] HAH! [11:07] Sun Feb 8 03:07:05 PST 2009 [11:07] TIme for bed. [11:07] Waay past time. [11:08] DanaG: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/326826 [11:08] Ubuntu bug 326826 in gnome-power-manager "brightness applet shows red cross if doubled click" [Undecided,New] [11:09] Doesn't happen for me. [11:09] Anyway, bedtime for me. [11:09] I just saw on yours [11:09] heh [11:10] Old screenshot; different cause. =þ [11:10] okay [11:10] go to bed [11:10] see you in a few hours [11:10] Another issue I have: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284319 [11:10] Ubuntu bug 284319 in linux "mute, brightness buttons on new HP 6930p laptop" [Undecided,New] [11:10] The fglrx one is the biggest deal, though -- doesn't even work in Intrepid. [11:11] It wouldn't be so bad if radeon at least had power management support. [11:12] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20967279/fglrx-ouch.log [11:12] dude: GO TO BED [11:12] eheh [11:12] Bigger immediate bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/311932 [11:12] Ubuntu bug 311932 in linux "SD card insertion is not detected on HP EliteBook 6930p" [Low,In progress] [11:12] bug-a-wollic [11:14] does anyone else has expirienced problems with ksystray? My icons seem not to update frequently... [11:18] Cruster: gnome user here [12:03] I installed Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 4. But it freezes a minute or so after I start it. The only way to get out of it is to restart X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. How can I get relevant information to find an existing bug report or to file one? [12:08] legate: no need [12:08] known bug [12:08] bug 326344 [12:08] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [12:11] ok, thanks BUGabundo [12:26] any updates on nouveau drivers status? [12:29] not that I know kristjan_ [12:32] BUGabundo, I mean can I install them in Jaunty without adding any extra repos? [12:34] humm the nouveau are already there [12:34] maybe not the TRUNK version, but they are there, kristjan_ [12:35] BUGabundo, well ok. what's current Jaunty's version? alpha3 [12:35] humm [12:35] daily ? [12:36] !daily [12:36] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [12:36] kristjan_: as thursday alpha 4 is out [12:36] Alpha4 is out [12:37] I think I will wait for first beta release still. Availability of nouveau drivers already is nice though. [12:37] kristjan_: vahivahi, eestlasi eksib kah siaa ära. [12:38] kristjan_: smart move. nvidia+compositing is broken in alpha 4 [12:38] * Alexia_Death had to downgrade this morning. [12:38] X that is. [12:54] hi === legate1 is now known as legate [13:37] Hew I don't think that you were all that right [13:37] even with compiz and metacity compozite off, I can't login with NVidia [13:38] i can now [13:40] not here [13:40] only with NV driver [13:40] will Jaunty see major ui revamp? didn't canonical hire professional designers or something? [13:42] andersk: ping [13:42] even with compiz and metacity compozite off, I can't login with NVidia [13:50] ne1 elses X broke atm? [13:51] Mines hanging after logging in. [13:51] trying to debug now [13:53] Ahhh looks like a problem with having the workaround for the nvidia driver. [13:57] histo: 180.27? [13:57] hold on brb [14:01] There much better. What was someone asking about nvidia driver? [14:03] Let me check which version whoever that was earlier [14:04] Yeah its 180.27 drivers [14:10] all borked up I had the abi fix implemented but something with the new updates wrecked it. [14:12] ahh looks like problem with compiz [14:36] cant get sound working in 9.04 . in 8.10 i had to add "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1" in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base" but now it doesnt help got any ideas? [14:36] failers: Check the module in case the required parameter has changed (modinfo snd-hda-intel) [14:38] IntuitiveNipple explain little more what you mean im half new to linux and yes i know this is alpha ^^ [14:39] give me a mo... I think I misunderstood your question slightly, too! I'm looking at it in a virtual machine right now [14:39] oki [14:39] IntuitiveNipple http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063382 there you have all the info i could get out of kubuntu with my knowledge :P [14:40] (what kind of soundcard i got and alsa-base in its current state) [14:41] just checked... I was correct first time.... that setting you referred to us passed to the kernel module when it starts. "enable_msi" is no longer a valid option - it looks like it has been replaced by the "model=" option (since so many HDA chipsets require specific set-up) [14:41] let's look at what the options to 'model' are [14:41] oki [14:50] IntuitiveNipple is it "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1 model=hp-m4" or just options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4" [14:51] oh hang on! lol... I read MSI as the manufacturer... it is in fact message signalling interrupt :p [14:51] :o [14:53] and that option does still exist :) [14:54] I think the former of your two examples is correct...I'm trying to find the list of models [14:54] ok === [pErry] is now known as [perry] [15:05] IntuitiveNipple got it working thx for leading me in right direction [15:05] :) [15:06] what was it? [15:07] I just found the models: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=blob;f=sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c;h=82029baf3305f9afa4eef2a2c57cdd70be117090;hb=HEAD#l1765 [15:07] to make it work i added "options snd slots=snd-hda-intel" "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1 model=hp-m4" "alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel" [15:07] found it on some opensuse forum [15:07] :P [15:07] ahhh I see [15:09] how awesome now everything works :D [15:09] only fstab on my ntfs drives and im done :) [15:09] Can you please post that as a bug-report in launchpad? (I'll tell you the package in a mo) [15:10] sure [15:11] I *think* it should be against "alsa-base" since it has the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base module configuration options for the various sound tweaks. [15:12] Make sure to post the solution there too :) [15:14] ubuntu , alsa-base , summary: no sound on kubuntu 9.04 alpha 4 [15:14] :) [15:20] IntuitiveNipple https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/326896 [15:20] Ubuntu bug 326896 in alsa-driver "no sound on kubuntu 9.04 alpha 4" [Undecided,New] [15:20] good enough :o ? [15:21] Noticed something weird in 64-bit [15:21] login sound is distorted [15:23] virtuelv: Yes, I noticed that too both with bare hardware and on a KVM virtual machine [15:25] and the sound preferences tool is gone? [15:26] virtuelv its under multimedia [15:26] or thats what it says for me in swedish language pack [15:26] system settings -> multimedia [15:27] there it is for me [15:28] no multimedia preferences either [15:28]