[09:04] Processor : ARM926EJ-Sid(wb) rev 0 (v5l) [09:04] im assuming that's too old for ubuntu [09:28] nah, it's armv5te [09:29] which works with ubuntu [09:34] interesting [09:35] unfortunately, ive got 64 megs of RAM on it [09:36] can probably run the base system :P which device is it? [09:36] D-Link DNS 323 [09:36] well 64 mb can probably take the base system, definately :P [09:36] theres a gig of swap [09:37] we have a ubuntu base system on nokia 770's, which are 64mb ram so [09:37] for the moment i'll stick with ipkg and see how that goes [09:38] there's two guides out there for running debian on this thing; one is chroot and the other is not [15:48] hmm [15:49] i wonder how debian does that ... htop on the nslug actually reports only 6M of 30 being used [15:49] on an idling system [15:55] ogra: no UI, no memory problems ;) [15:55] suihkulokki, well, i havent seen an ubuntu kernel running with 6M yet [15:57] we even had probs booting 32M x86 systems in ltsp 48M was the bare minimum to unpack and execute the initramfs, its pretty impressing to see a 30M system booting and then running with only 6M userspace being used [15:57] and i really wonder how to achieve that whithout trashing the ubuntu defaults to much [17:49] hmm, so running an ubuntu userspace on the nslu2 immediately kicks me out after showing motd :( [17:55] ogra: I guess this extra ubuntu stuff is installed after debootstrap ? [17:56] suihkulokki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch ... calls debootstrap, switches to qemu, does the second stage, sets up a user, locales and timezone and install the set of packages you give it ... (in this case only ubuntu-minimal) [17:57] and yes, its a bunch more stuff being started than in the d-i lenny slug install [17:58] but not enough to prevent a login, i think there shoud still be enough spare ram to run bash [17:58] because I was under the impression that debootstrap for ubuntu and debian are almost identical [17:58] right [17:58] so I guess the bloat is in ubuntu-minimal [17:59] well, the seond stage simply installs the ubuntu-minimal metapackage in ubuntu [17:59] i wouldnt call it bloat :) [17:59] its console-setup, klogd and some other essential settings [18:00] the fun is that i actually see motd ... but then get bunped to login again [18:00] *bumped [18:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/115708/ [18:01] thats the ubuntu boot after leaving initramfs [18:02] not actually a lot more than the debian boot .... and no MTA [18:03] indeed [18:03] perhaps there is some too funky bash config there [18:04] ie. try changing the user shell to dash [18:04] yeah, i'll do that [18:04] though it works fine on all other arms i tried it on yet .... [18:05] slug is a bit stretch on what makes sense for running a general purpose distro [18:06] heh, yeah, 30M is something i havent seen in quite some time [18:08] nope, dash doesnt help ... [18:08] * ogra kills the startup links for syslog and klogd [18:13] aha, an error message [18:13] init: ttyS0 main process ended, respawning [18:13] * ogra checks his serial console setup again [18:14] heh [18:15] ok, its just me having been silly setting up the proper upstart stuff [18:17] putting -L into the getty line somewhat helps :P [18:20] hrm, but still doesnt let me in [18:22] sigh ... apex doesnt let me set init=/bin/bash ? pfft [18:23] grrr, what a crappy HW [18:28] oh [18:28] readonly fs ... hmm [18:49] * ogra adss lots of swap to exclude ram issues [18:49] GRRRRR [18:50] no go :( [18:51] how much ram does the slug have anyway? [18:57] 30M [18:57] but it has 256M swap now [18:57] so its not ram thats the issue [18:58] * ogra curses ... i'd so love to know what that is [18:59] and that shitty bootloader doesnt let you change the cmdline on boot, you can only change it with apex-utils [18:59] from the running system ... to which i cant log in to [19:01] so booting with init=/bin/bash literally means to replace init each time i test something and need eth live HW [19:01] *the [19:22] hmm, so unsetting the rootpw gets me in as root [19:22] but still no way to do it as user [20:46] ah, well, so the ubuntu basic system with additionally running sshd uses up 7M [20:46] nt to bad [20:46] *not [21:34] root@nslu2:~# sudo -u ogra ls [21:34] Killed [21:34] hmm