[00:16] fta: sry .. i fell asleep [00:17] fta: yes, NM cannot tell which network you are on until we have modemmanager [00:17] the standard is just two non-standard to punch all the modems into NM core [11:19] fta: I tried firefox 3.1 b3 from the daily PPA, same result with instant segfault. [11:21] then I created a intrepid chroot using debootstrap, in there 3.1 b3 works. [11:22] so now I have to try and figure out what it is on my system that triggers this :/ [14:52] fta: personally, I never had a locked SIM card in my modem though i entered wrong pin multiple times. In worst case it should ask you for PUK [15:16] asac : Any news about bug 324635 ? [15:16] Launchpad bug 324635 in sunbird-locales "lightning-extension-locales needs update" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324635 [15:45] fta: your pic is the only one that is broken on the identi.ca subscrptions [15:46] saivann: it looked good. unfortunately in the middle of reviewing it my system went down and i had it in /tmp ;) [15:46] so now i have to redo stuff [16:23] asac : No problem, ping me if needed :) [16:27] BUGabundo: so is ffox 3.1 working for you again? [16:28] YAY [16:28] thanks asac [16:28] I'm now on daily builds too [16:28] so I'll be nagging you guys a bit more [16:28] eheh [16:28] 3.2 is starting to mess even more addons [16:28] :( [16:35] BUGabundo: you could help by using the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/NormalizedBugFormat when filing bugs ;) [16:35] once i set stuff to triaged you can even forward upstream ;) [16:35] bugzilla.mozilla.org account required for that obviously [16:36] yay... more bug work /sarcasm [16:36] today, even before breakfast I filled 4 bugs... [16:36] I guess I need to catch up on a low week [16:36] eheeh [16:37] cool :) ... please ensure that you dont have incompatible addons enabled :) ... i guess you disabled maxversion checks, right ? [16:37] e.g. when you see a bug check that it also happens in safe-mode [16:37] if i know that you do that, i dont need to ask that everytime i process a bug of you ... e.g. saves us 1 round ;) [16:38] asac: I have something like 48 addons [16:38] most non suported [16:38] I run nightly tools so they all work [16:38] SPAM ALERT: [16:38] Adblock Filterset.G Updater 0.3.1.3 [16:38] Adblock Plus 1.0.1 [16:38] Add N Edit Cookies 0.2.1.3 [16:38] Better Gmail 2 0.7.2 [16:38] Better GReader 0.5.2 [16:41] BUGabundo: yes. thats why i am saying: run in -safe-mode and reproduce your issue before filing [16:41] that helps to keep good bug ratio higher ;) [16:42] asac: I usually just run a new profile [16:42] by the way [16:42] do you have any idea what weave now uses? [16:42] thats ok too then. if you always do that its good [16:42] can I get it installed localy? [16:42] BUGabundo: you mean on server side? [16:42] yeah [16:42] BUGabundo: they have their own crappy server ... yes, you can run that locally [16:43] BUGabundo: i just ended up in issues because i tried to use sqlite [16:43] eheh [16:43] if you have no problem using mysql it should work [16:43] I tried the old webdav [16:43] but never managed to login [16:43] that doesnt work anymore [16:43] you need the new server which is somewhat streamlined for the weave task [16:43] so somewhat a mix of DAV and their individual extensions [16:44] but their server is in the weave hg repo [16:44] so just a matter of setting it up [16:44] you lost me [16:44] so I'll ask again: what does it run ? [16:44] BUGabundo: nothing to get lost [16:44] BUGabundo: get the source code for weave [16:44] and there is a server code directly [16:44] then you will see [16:44] weave server ? [16:45] you can deploy that on apache [16:45] ah ok [16:45] do you have a link at hand? [16:45] hg.mozilla.org/labs [16:45] there is weave i think [16:45] oh there is even weaveserver ;) [16:45] use hg clone or use the zip/targz links on top to get a snapshot [16:46] needs apache, python, mysql and maybe something else i cant remember [16:46] err s/python/php/ [16:47] downloading now [16:47] I have it all [16:47] will it build now, on 64 bits? [16:47] then this should be easy ;) [16:47] I remember you patch something to help with it [16:48] BUGabundo: yes that patch is probably still required ... not sure if someone made a package out of it now [16:48] in firefox-extensions [16:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/115675/ [16:48] BUGabundo: ^^ [16:49] if that doesnt apply cleanly anymore, just fiddle around a bit ;) [16:49] but i guess it does [16:49] 3UK4Lcfktk?nJi?V=tK>l_JUzQcZ?*KxGh%O^c ztv#F-z|_D7W2Z19n^(#P(GM460Sb12q~-t_Q$dU!K*mB4V;7LI7R1=oke [16:49] lol [16:49] BUGabundo: heh. just ingore that part [16:49] i mean its their problem that they included a binary file in their hg tree [16:50] ok [16:50] weave and weave server extracted [16:50] so I just patch the weave [16:51] and copy the server version to my www dit [16:51] *dir [16:51] and then build weave addon? [16:54] asac, can I force n-m to ask me the PIN somehow? [17:00] fta2: check the thread ... i would like to see the serial debug first [17:01] BUGabundo: server side is your task to find out ... i cant remember what i did [17:02] i think you also need to edit some php config file to tell the server where the store is etc. [17:02] great, at leasdt now i know how to debug nm... will try that on my own broken sim. [17:02] and how to patch it? [17:02] I get confused by looking [17:02] -d [17:02] at your diff [17:02] fta2: yeah. some modems have wierd AT commands and responses [17:03] BUGabundo: save stuff to file ... remove the binary part from top and run pach -p1 < /path/to/file/you/downloaded.patc [17:03] patch [17:03] asac, is nm able to unlock the sim now? i mean, providing I enter the puk [17:04] fta2: the code for asking for PUK is there ... [17:05] weave-1de167aec23c$ patch -p1 < plain [17:05] patching file src/Makefile [17:05] hmm.. the daily of gwibber is not very active.. :P [17:05] if you hvae a provider lock (e.g. you use your SIM with a modem from a different provider) this isnt the issue at all [17:05] BUGabundo: sounds right [17:06] now I follow this again https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Weave/Building [17:07] /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6/sdk [17:07] is this it?? [17:08] /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6/sdk/bin/xpidl -m header -I/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6/sdk/idl IWeaveCrypto.idl [17:08] make[1]: /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6/sdk/bin/xpidl: Command not found [17:08] make[1]: *** [IWeaveCrypto.h] Error 127 [17:08] or not [17:09] ln -sf `pwd`/../defaults/preferences/sync.js /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6//bin/defaults/pref/sync.js # fixme!! [17:09] ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6//bin/defaults/pref/sync.js': Permission denied [17:09] make[1]: *** [test-install] Error 1 [17:09] sudo it? [17:09] [reed]: somewhat "asac" user doesnt have an email on wiki.mozilla.org [17:09] [reed]: any chance to see if that could be me? [17:11] BUGabundo: remove the "sdk/" ? [17:11] from the path you pass as sdk ;) [17:11] did it [17:11] got the second error [17:11] sudo it, got another [17:11] Makefile:144: No 'sdkdir' variable given [17:11] Makefile:145: It should point to the location of the Gecko SDK [17:11] BUGabundo: urg. please dont sudo it ;) [17:11] do I need to clean it? [17:11] to late [17:12] lol [17:12] BUGabundo, didn't I say that sudo whatever was evil? [17:12] * BUGabundo noob efect: doesn't work: sudo it [17:12] BUGabundo: now you need to find all the files created [17:12] only not enough times [17:12] eheh [17:12] and remove them manually [17:12] to get back to a maintainable state [17:12] ;) [17:13] ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6//bin/defaults/pref/sync.js': Permission denied [17:13] from here and behond? [17:13] it's useful when you know why you need it for, not to solve something you don't understand [17:13] BUGabundo: yes, that link. and also what happened afterwards might be subject for removal [17:14] BUGabundo: so what command do you run for building? [17:14] bin [17:14] idl [17:14] include [17:14] lib [17:14] sdk [17:14] xpcom-config.h [17:14] what stays, what goes? [17:14] i doubt that you run that for building ;) [17:14] they all have todays time stamp [17:15] BUGabundo: not sure what you pasted [17:15] this : !ls /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6 [17:15] BUGabundo: dirs get a timestamp [17:15] when a file inside is modified [17:15] you need to find which files inside where changed [17:15] bah [17:16] apt-get remove --purge? [17:16] eheh [17:16] BUGabundo: that will not help either [17:16] no? [17:16] messy me [17:16] it will only remove the files form the package ... if you manually create files they will not get removed, but stay forever [17:17] anyway. builds for me [17:17] without even sudo [17:17] sure [17:17] you didnt read the build instructions as it seems [17:17] but then I can remove the ones that are too much [17:17] what instructions? [17:17] from the wiki? [17:19] I know see I folowed the one not for ubuntu [17:19] BUGabundo: other packages create files and links below xulrunner-1.9 too [17:19] yes from wiki [17:19] make sdkdir=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0*/ xpi [17:19] works [17:19] i guess you didnt read the complete line ;) [17:19] and forgot the xpi [17:20] make sdkdir=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.1 xpi [17:20] thats what is on the wiki [17:20] you probably just did [17:20] make sdkdir=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.6 [17:20] hehe [17:20] yeah [17:21] BUGabundo: learn to invest a bit more time up front (e.g. read details) and you will save yourself bunch of follow up work [17:21] anyway ;) [17:21] let me know whether the server works for you ;) [17:22] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Weave/0.3/Setup/Server trying the server now [17:25] adding [17:25] Alias /0.3/user /var/www/weave/server/index.php [17:25] Alias /weave/register /var/www/weave/server/register.php [17:37] bug 191889 [17:37] Launchpad bug 191889 in pidgin "[MASTER] [WORKAROUND] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191889 [17:37] hmmm [17:40] fta2: if you use NM that shouldnt be an issue [17:40] or if you dont use it at all (e.g. uninstalled) === asac__ is now known as asac [17:48] fta2: did you get a serial debug log yet? [17:50] yes [17:50] reading it right now === fta2_ is now known as fta2 [17:51] fta2: you filed the jemalloc thing upstream right ... can you link that bug to bug 319480 please? [17:51] Launchpad bug 319480 in firefox-3.1 "firefox-3.1 crashed with SIGSEGV in memalign()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319480 [17:53] i'll do that from home, not very handy here, even in 1st class [17:55] fta2: let me ponder bugzilla [17:57] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/115704/ (left=NOK, right=OK), that's the end of the logs, i tried with 2 different SIM cards in the same usb key [17:58] so it's fine up to the CHAP auth, then boom [17:58] ok, i have to hand up, i'm about to arrive. cu later. [17:59] hang [18:00] fta2: what do you have NetworkManager: [1234114356.551458] nm_ppp_manager_start(): Command line: /usr/sbin/pppd node [18:00] i need the full line [18:00] also the /etc/ppp/options [18:00] will do, later :) [18:00] ++ [18:03] sure [18:21] n [18:22] asac: its not going easy [18:22] its installed and configured [18:22] but something is not working yet [18:23] yeah ... i know that feeling ;) [18:24] i think you need to create some directories and something [18:24] and set them in config [18:25] I followed ALL that the wiki says [18:26] going besark here [18:26] log show nothing [18:26] tried both 3.2 and 3.0 [18:26] all new profiles [18:27] I guess this is one of those things that is not meant to work [18:28] bah [18:29] ask on #weave on moznet [18:30] they won't be very helpful [18:30] but I could try [18:32] done [18:32] bug guys at #labs [18:39] yeah [18:39] #labs [18:39] why wont they be helpful? [18:39] their wiki instructions are outdated or bogus ;) [18:39] or at least not deterministic ;) [18:46] yep [18:46] ZERO replies on #labs until now [18:52] guess better chance to get answer on monday american business hours [18:53] lol [18:53] bah [18:53] if no one replies I'm there [18:53] I'll just forget weave [18:53] *maybe* someday it _will_ work [18:54] I would really like to merge all my profiles history [18:54] but its not worth all the trouble [18:54] I guess I could hack into the DB with sqlite, *after* I learn the DB model [18:59] Recommended:FireFox2,Safari3,Google Chrome,InternetExplore6sp2 [18:59] LOL [18:59] what? no FF3 [19:02] back [19:03] asac, I do 7->9->3 instead of 7->8, so i fail something in step 7 [19:05] asac, no 'pppd mode' line [19:05] oh, node [19:06] asac, NetworkManager: [1234114356.551458] nm_ppp_manager_start(): Command line: /usr/sbin/pppd nodetach lock nodefaultroute ttyUSB0 noipdefault usepeerdns lcp-echo-failure 0 lcp-echo-interval 0 ipparam /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/PPP/0 plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.4/nm-pppd-plugin.so [19:06] same for both [19:06] lcp-echo-failure 0, hmmm [19:07] [Sun 19:00] asac: also the /etc/ppp/options <= vanilla, i never touched it [19:07] [OT] guys check this out http://www.chamap.net/ [19:08] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/115742/ [19:13] lol fta [19:13] coulndt find your avatar! [19:14] asac, last time i touched ppp/options was when i was still using 56k, definitely not with this laptop :P [19:14] BUGabundo, this service is not for me, and it looks almost empty [19:15] sure its new [19:15] but the geo tagging is really nice [19:16] it's based on dns, so it's far from accurate [19:16] well mine really close [19:16] ff 3.1 has a geolocalization feature in it [19:16] great [19:16] you need to allow it to send your location [19:17] privacy [19:17] and it randomizes a bit the gps coordinates [19:17] ok [19:17] great to know [19:18] you need to have a gps or to enter the coordinates manually [19:20] BUGabundo, http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/09/geolocation-support-added-to-firefox-31/ [19:22] http://labs.mozilla.com/2008/10/introducing-geode/ [19:24] http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/mozilla-labs-geode-follow-up/ [19:27] this one is interesting: http://dougt.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/fuzzing-a-geolocation/ [20:05] asac, about bug 242244, you (or seb) said it's a patch we introduced in gtk2, I can't find it, do you where it is? I'd like to revert it, at least locally, to see what happens [20:05] Launchpad bug 242244 in ubuntu "Apps in notifcation bar are no longer moved to current workspace on click" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/242244 [20:32] -thunderbird-3.0 (3.0~b1+nobinonly2-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [20:32] +thunderbird-3.0 (3.1~a1~hg20090208r1892+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [20:33] hm, it tb3 final out? or is it two branches like ff ? [20:33] is [20:41] mozilla bug 469835 [20:41] Mozilla bug 469835 in Build Config "Change version number to 3.1a1pre for Thunderbird comm-central+mozilla-central builds" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469835 [20:43] what a mess [21:43] <[reed]> asac: yeah, I'll take a look in a sec [23:25] dtchen, gasp, the sound in openarena is unbearable. [23:25] dtchen, with luke's ppa [23:29] dtchen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/115804/ [23:30] dtchen, and mplayer with ao=alsa is broken. it mutes the sound applet [23:31] dtchen, ao=pulse works slightly better than before but ao=alsa was better [23:31] what isn't broken with sound on recent ubuntu sound servers? [23:31] LOL [23:31] don't let me even start with bluetooth [23:36] asac, looks like my SIM card is not locked after all, i put it in my cell phone, it's fine. so it's something else, n-m ? my provider ?