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bobbob1016I managed to get 5.1 working over spdif from VLC, from desktop, not from myth, and not from mplayer, I'm using pulse.  My myth settings are set to "ALSA:pulse" for audio, any ideas?00:33
mandingoceohello all i have a quick question00:58
mandingoceo!help00:58
superm1!ask | mandingoceo00:59
superm1huh? no zinn..01:00
superm1rhpot1991, ^01:00
mandingoceook i have an hvr1600 in my computer with kubuntu on it but the backend wont find the card but when i had mythbuntu on it it worked with no problems01:01
superm1what version of each?01:01
mandingoceo81001:01
superm1did you make sure updates were done all the way for both?01:02
mandingoceoyes all updates are done01:02
superm1then perhaps permissions related problems?01:04
superm1are the devices populated in /dev?01:04
mandingoceoim a noob so please bear with me01:05
mandingoceoif you mean under where capture setup no01:06
superm1well if you are a noob, would it be too much to ask to just install mythbuntu again, and then add the kubuntu options?01:07
superm1it might alleviate what would be a lot of debuggin01:08
superm1kubuntu can be added to mythbuntu in the mythbuntu control centre01:08
mandingoceodidnt want to go that route01:08
mandingoceoi am computer literate just new to linux01:09
superm1well you should rule out the obvious things then first.  1) make sure your device is listed in the output of the lspci tool01:11
superm12) look for error messages in the dmesg tool01:11
mandingoceodid everything was fine there01:11
superm13) check to make sure you are in the mythtv group (look at the output of groups)01:11
tritiumsuperm1: it doesn't look like you're subsribed to bug 153185, but I think that might be nice to try to get into jaunty01:11
mandingoceoi added my self to the group also01:12
superm1mandingoceo, well i dont have much more time for helping debug right now, i'd recommend making a post on the forums01:13
mandingoceok thanks01:13
superm1tritium, can you get a debdiff on the bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors then?01:13
tritiumsuperm1: ok.  Also, not sure if you ever saw my note to you sometime back that to do hdhomerun-config properly, I'd need to split out the library into a separate package.01:14
tritiumI submitted a few other bug reports or comments, that don't seem to be getting anyone's attention.01:15
tritiumBug 32107601:16
hadsPeople aren't paid to work on things01:18
tritiumI also submitted a patch for /usr/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/20thirdparty/lirc.fdi to fix the DViCO Fusion Remote MCE, but it's not showing up in my subscribed bugs.  Strange...01:18
tritiumhads: I know...01:19
quaa_anyone know what "I added a shlibs file with information about libvdpau in the nvidia package.." means?01:21
quaa_im trying to update my system and nvidia-180-libvdpau wont update01:22
quaa_so i spend some hours looking online and found this site - http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1127495.html01:22
sloof3I missed my opportunity to format my 3TB array. I've stopped the installation before MythTV setup.  I installed gparted but it's having some unknown problem formatting the xfs partition.  What course of action do I have?01:26
sloof3http://pastebin.com/m1f80460501:28
sloof3After a little searching maybe I have to use the 64-bit version01:57
sloof3Looks like my partition limit is 2.2TB01:57
MythbuntuGuest34is there a actual .iso image for mythbuntu02:30
tgm4883_laptopyea02:30
tgm4883_laptopat mythbuntu.org02:30
MythbuntuGuest34click and download?02:31
tgm4883_laptopyea02:31
MythbuntuGuest34where02:31
MythbuntuGuest34i downloaded somthing but i got 7 or 8 files02:32
MythbuntuGuest34none with a .iso extension02:32
uSlackerHey Mythbuntu gurus - I need your help.  When I load the proprietary ATI drivers for my Diamond HD 2600XT, the mythbuntu frontend gets corrupt02:34
uSlackerif I exit out of the front-end, *buntu underneath looks fine02:34
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest34, http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads02:41
sloof3MythbuntuGuest34: Don't right-click and Save the first Link02:42
MythbuntuGuest34i aLSO BURNED THE FIRST CD AND IT SORTA WORKED IT DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO BOOT from the cd in the boot menu02:44
MythbuntuGuest34sorry hit caps lock02:45
MythbuntuGuest34how do i save the first link without right clicking02:49
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest34, left click on it?02:54
MythbuntuGuest34it gives me a wierd site02:55
tgm4883_laptopwhat weird site?02:56
hadswget http://osuosl.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-8.10-desktop-proper-i386.iso02:56
sloof3...wtf02:56
sloof3MythbuntuGuest34: Don't right-click, click the first Link02:56
MythbuntuGuest34nvm i know what i did wrong i extreacted the files with win zip instead of leaving it as a iso02:57
* sloof3 pulls trigger on revolver02:57
MythbuntuGuest34?02:58
MythbuntuGuest34i also don't know to to get rid of the slection between vista and mythbuntu when i first boot my computer02:59
superm1tritium, that's fine if you need to split it.  same thing, submit a diff and subscribe u-u-s04:02
superm1and ping me if you aren't getting a response out of the queue04:02
mandingoceoi have a permission problem with my card and myth and cant figure it out04:03
mandingoceoi dont have permission to /dev/video004:04
mandingoceokubuntu 81004:04
superm1mandingoceo, i'm back now.  so if that's the case, then you need to add your user to generally the video group i think04:04
superm1check who owns /dev/video004:05
mandingoceok04:05
mandingoceoi added my self and myth to the video group04:09
mandingoceofrom the terminal when i enter mythbackend i get the error no valid capture cards04:11
mandingoceoi read on a website some where where u posted cat /dev/video0 > ~/test.mpg to test the cards04:12
mandingoceoi do that i the mpg plays04:12
superm1that's only on hardware that supports analog v4l04:13
superm1digital hardware will show up in /dev/dvb04:13
mandingoceoi have the hvr 160004:13
mandingoceoso i was connected to the analog input04:14
superm1well does the analog side work in linux though04:14
superm1have you checked on that already?04:14
mandingoceono still get the permission denied04:14
mandingoceoand now the backend doesnt see the card04:14
superm1the permission denied may just be a red herring is what i am getting at04:16
superm1if the analog portion of the card doesn't work in linux04:16
mandingoceooh04:16
superm1well it looks like it should all work according to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-160004:17
mandingoceoyeh i looked at that04:20
mandingoceosuperm1 what does this mean MainServer::HandleVersion - Client speaks protocol version 31 but we speak 40!04:24
superm1that u are using the wrong version of a package04:25
mandingoceook04:25
superm1so maybe your backend is running 8.10 and your frontend 8.0404:26
superm1or something like that04:26
mandingoceooh ok04:26
superm1somehow you've mixed older packages in04:26
mandingoceoso how can i redown load all the right ones04:27
superm1well i dont know where you got the wrong ones from04:28
superm1so i'd recommend undoing whatever you did to get the wrong ones on there04:28
Suidoghey there.  I'm having a problem with my backend. I'm running ubuntu 8.04 and everything seems to be working now after a bit of tweaking but it doesn't seem to be able to use my tuner card05:16
SuidogI see that it's loaded in dmesg as cx88 /dev/video0 and /dev/video105:17
Suidogbut when I look at the log for backend I see the following: channelbase(1) Error: InitializeInputs()05:19
Suidoganyone know what I could look at next?05:19
Suidoganyone alive in here?05:19
mandingoceosuperm1 u still there05:33
mandingoceook got it working just keeps pausing though05:37
mandingoceoany1 home05:42
Suidogok.. got some new stuff. I created the input group .. but now I just get a black screen when I go to watch live tv05:45
SuidogMandingoceo .. is anyone responding in here?05:46
mandingoceosuperm1 was but not anymore05:47
Suidogman .. all these people and no is here!05:48
Suidogit's like they have a life or something!! What gives! LOL05:49
foxbuntumandingoceo, are you using an HVR-1600 with QAM or just ATSC/NTSC?05:49
mandingoceoyeh right05:49
mandingoceoqam05:50
foxbuntuMythbuntu 8.10?05:50
mandingoceokubunto 81005:50
foxbuntuhmm ok05:50
Suidogman I'm so close now.. I finally got everything working (no errors) and now I just get a black screen when I watch livetv .. I'm missing something05:50
foxbuntusorry, I am having issues of my own05:51
mandingoceoscan your channels05:51
foxbuntumandingoceo, my 1600 says no signal05:51
mandingoceohow do u have the card setup05:51
Suidogon the input I told it to use the channels from the listings05:51
mandingoceok05:51
foxbuntumandingoceo, the QAM goes to the middle RG6 jack right?05:51
mandingoceoyes05:51
foxbuntuok05:52
Suidogman: asking me how I have it setup?05:52
mandingoceoyeh05:52
* foxbuntu goes to build a new 8.10 machine to test with05:52
Suidogwell I'm running 8.04 and my card had drivers loaded for it .. saw it in dmesg05:52
Suidogwent in and selected the video0 as capture card05:53
mandingoceok05:53
Suidogpull listing from for comcast in my area05:53
Suidogcreated input group with that source05:53
Suidogshould I be doing anything else?05:53
mandingoceowhat does your logs say05:53
mandingoceocat /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log05:54
Suidogah.. seeing a unknown codec error now05:54
Suidogit says go into profiles..05:55
Suidogprofiles on backend?05:55
SuidogI didn't see a place to select codecs05:56
jaymzhHey all. I changed my sources.list to intrepid, did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade', rebooted and the mythtv frontend is completely unresponsive. Nothing in the frontend logs except that it couldn't run cdrecord and couldn't register SIP. The frontend is completely unresponsive to keyboard input.12:53
jaymzhan strace shows it trying to do selects over and over but getting EGAIN12:54
jaymzhIf I run mythtv-setup from another machine over x-forwarding, it works fine, I can select stuff... but from console, it doesn't work13:00
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MythbuntuGuest23hello, i can dump raw video from my pvr-150 but i cannot open a channel through mythtv. the screen goes black and it never shows video. i made sure to set permissions on my recordings folder. where should i start troubleshooting?21:13
MythbuntuGuest23im using seperate back and frontend21:14
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest23, you should start by pastebinning your logs21:15
tgm4883_laptop!pastebin21:15
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.21:15
tgm4883_laptop!logs21:15
ZinnMythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.21:15
tritiumMythbuntuGuest23: lucky that you have a PVR-150.  They don't sell them anymore, and analog on the newer cards (I have the WinTV-HVR-1800) is pathetic.21:16
tritiumIt's basically only good as an ATSC card.21:16
tgm4883_laptopanalog is overrated21:18
MythbuntuGuest23yeah21:18
MythbuntuGuest23it looks really good21:18
MythbuntuGuest23i have always loved hauppauge21:18
tgm4883_laptopAnd I finally get to start complaining about the President for making dumb decisions21:18
MythbuntuGuest23what log should i pastebin?21:18
tritiumAnalog is what comes out of my DirecTV receiver.  Without it, I'm down 80% of my channels.21:19
tgm4883_laptopmoving back the digital turn off date21:19
tgm4883_laptopbah21:19
tgm4883_laptoptritium, as does mine21:19
tgm4883_laptopyou need to get an HDPVR21:19
tgm4883_laptopas do I ;)21:19
MythbuntuGuest23isnt it like /var/logs/mythtv or something?21:19
tritiumI don't have DirecTV high-def.21:19
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest23, use mythbuntu-log-grabber21:20
tgm4883_laptopit will give us the logs we need21:20
tritiumThe HD-PVR wouldn't do much for me.  Besides, I don't want another external box.  I already have an HDHR.21:20
tgm4883_laptopnote that I posted the two things you needed above21:20
MythbuntuGuest23http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f49dda70e21:22
MythbuntuGuest23i just clicked on watch tv right before i ran that log21:23
MythbuntuGuest23if there is something else i need to do let me know21:24
MythbuntuGuest23speaking of that pvr-150 i have an all in wonder and another card somewhere and the difference in encoding quality is unreal21:29
MythbuntuGuest23for some reason that pvr-150 looks 10 times better pulling cable straight from analog21:29
MythbuntuGuest23yeah i can do cat /dev/video0 > whatever.mpg and pull video from my card. so i know its working. but when i connect my frontend to the system it wont open any channels21:36
MythbuntuGuest23and the frontend is really slow for some reason. i dont know if it is locking up or if it is just having a hard time.21:37
MythbuntuGuest23i just realized my transfer speed from backend to frontend is only 100kbps21:37
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest23, strange, that log isn't showing me anything21:39
tgm4883_laptophmm21:39
tgm4883_laptopis that from your backend or your frontend?21:40
tgm4883_laptopor is it the same maching?21:40
MythbuntuGuest23that is from my backend21:41
MythbuntuGuest23should i restart the backend, try to watch somethine and then pastebin the log again?21:41
MythbuntuGuest23holy shit21:53
ZinnMythbuntuGuest23: Please watch your language.21:53
MythbuntuGuest23it start working21:53
MythbuntuGuest23now i need to lookup the controls for this21:54
MythbuntuGuest23:)21:54
MythbuntuGuest23now to get rid of mythfrontend and replace it with xbmc21:57
MythbuntuGuest23is that a good or bad idea?21:57
quaahey i have a problem, just installed my system using weekly builds and now when trying to run mythtv-setup it crashes before i get a menu displaying anything21:58
quaalogs look good i believe21:59
quaaim using http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds using trunk22:00
kayle12quaa: what theme are you using?22:00
quaajust installed the system so i havent picked a theme yet22:01
kayle12ahhh: ok well i had a problem the other day and it was the theme that caused it22:02
quaa hmm i mean generally i dont have any problems but im confused with this22:03
quaaohhh hmm22:05
quaai loaded up mythfrontend and picked G.I.A.N.T22:05
quaaand its working now i guess22:05
kayle12 good must have been a slight error..22:06
quaagoot call man!22:06
MythbuntuGuest23how much transfer speed do i need between my back and frontend?22:10
MythbuntuGuest23because my backend is connected with a crappy wireless card22:10
MythbuntuGuest23im getting like between 50 and 100kbps transfer. and  its skipping really bad22:11
MythbuntuGuest23my backend and frontend are also seperated by 2500 feet22:12
quaahmm22:45
quaagot different problems now.  Ran the backend setup and setup my pvr-150, now the things that dont work are themes (only ones that i tried that works is G.A.N.T. and blue22:51
quaaand when trying to "Watch TV" the frontend crashes22:51
quaaWhat i did was install mythbuntu 8.10 AMD64 from alternate cd (must use for my softraid) and updated everything, then did dist-upgrade, then installed the nvidia-180-glx / modaliases from https://launchpad.net/~anders-kaseorg/+archive/ppa22:54
quaaThen i added the trunk repo from http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds and updated again22:54
quaathen dist-upgrade again, everything is up to date now.22:54
quaalogs are @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1bcfcc2722:55
stiev3MythbuntuGuest23, too many variables are involved with wireless to really call that one I think.  You should definitely push for a wired connection.  Ballpark maybe ~13Mbps assuming 6g/hour or ~3Mbps for standard def 1g/hour.22:56
sloof3Should I be having trouble tuning QAM channels with the HVR 1250 in 8.10?22:56
stiev3MythbuntuGuest23, I think you're nearing 1Mbps at the top end, (if my bits/bytes conversion isn't retarded)23:00
stiev3MythbuntuGuest23, and that's assuming your card is in fact maintaining that rate, which with wireless cards tends to vary hugely and at a distance of half a mile from the access point... these parameters sound too extreme for reliable wireless mythtv23:01
quaavideo from the capture card works in VLC but not in mythfrontend23:11
rhpot1991quaa: I think those trunk packages are busted23:19
quaai believe its something with the nvidia-180 driver, i have asked multiple people and they say that i can use this driver (with vdapu) even though my 7600GT does not support vdapu - they said that it will not use the vdapu23:21
quaahere is my mythfrontend verbose output http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4552185c23:22
rhpot1991I'd guess either those packages are broken or you don't have the correct driver for VDPAU or your card doesn't support it23:24
rhpot1991last I heard there was something wrong with the trunk packages, might want to find out if they are ok23:24
quaawell to get rid of the trunk packages (if they are busted) could i just remove the source from my list23:25
quaaand update23:25
quaaor would i have to reinstall23:25
rhpot1991you will have to remove the packages that were installed as well23:26
rhpot1991otherwise there is nothing "newer" to upgrade to23:26
rhpot1991you can force specific versions as well, but its cleaner to get rid of the old then reinstall the packages23:27
quaadoes the .21 fixes repo on http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds still work?23:27
rhpot1991yes23:27
quaasee the original reason i am trying to use the trunk is because when i was using my HDTV tuner on live tv23:27
quaaand click guide everything became unresponsive23:28
quaaand i read somewhere that the fixes/trunk repo is suppose to fix this problem23:28
quaait was something to do with deinterlacing in the guide23:28
rhpot1991!%guide%23:29
ZinnIf you have a slow guide in Live TV, this is most likely due to the bob deinterlacer.  Please try disabling this deinterlacer and test again.  If this is the case please report back.23:29
rhpot1991try that?23:29
rhpot1991also trunk has a ton of HD improvements, but its not really ready for most users23:29
rhpot1991still in development and all, so its not recommended unless you really know what you are doing23:29
quaayeah that is why i am wanting to use the trunk23:30
quaai can figure some of this stuff out but if that repo is messed up what is the other way to get trunk running on my system23:30
rhpot1991build it from source23:31
quaaZinn: i would try that if i could but my system is borked now!23:31
rhpot1991Zinn: is a bot he wont talk back to you :P23:31
quaaoooooo23:32
quaamy bad23:32
quaathere is no other way to use trunk other than building it from source?23:32
rhpot1991use the packages when/if they are fixed23:33
rhpot1991once again though, trunk isn't really ready for end user use23:33
quaaok so i guess the easiest think for me then23:34
quaais to reinstall my system, and enable the fixes repo from http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds23:35
quaa?23:35
rhpot1991quaa: shouldn't need to reinstall23:38
rhpot1991just remove all the mythtv packages23:38
quaacan i do that with mythbuntu control center?23:39
rhpot1991quaa: under "Advanced Management"23:43
rhpot1991click Launch Synaptic23:44
rhpot1991search for "mythtv" in here23:44
rhpot1991right click on the mythtv packages that are installed (green check box), and choose "mark for complete removal"23:44
rhpot1991do that for them all then apply, and they should all be gone23:45
quaathen reinstallation?23:45
rhpot1991add the fixes repo, remove the trunk one23:45
rhpot1991then you can use MCC to install whichever configuration you want23:46
rhpot1991make sure you do a "sudo apt-get update" first23:46
rhpot1991before using MCC that is23:46
rhpot1991for the reinstallation23:46
quaak23:48
quaatrying23:48

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