[00:33] <bobbob1016> I managed to get 5.1 working over spdif from VLC, from desktop, not from myth, and not from mplayer, I'm using pulse.  My myth settings are set to "ALSA:pulse" for audio, any ideas?
[00:58] <mandingoceo> hello all i have a quick question
[00:58] <mandingoceo> !help
[00:59] <superm1> !ask | mandingoceo
[01:00] <superm1> huh? no zinn..
[01:00] <superm1> rhpot1991, ^
[01:01] <mandingoceo> ok i have an hvr1600 in my computer with kubuntu on it but the backend wont find the card but when i had mythbuntu on it it worked with no problems
[01:01] <superm1> what version of each?
[01:01] <mandingoceo> 810
[01:02] <superm1> did you make sure updates were done all the way for both?
[01:02] <mandingoceo> yes all updates are done
[01:04] <superm1> then perhaps permissions related problems?
[01:04] <superm1> are the devices populated in /dev?
[01:05] <mandingoceo> im a noob so please bear with me
[01:06] <mandingoceo> if you mean under where capture setup no
[01:07] <superm1> well if you are a noob, would it be too much to ask to just install mythbuntu again, and then add the kubuntu options?
[01:08] <superm1> it might alleviate what would be a lot of debuggin
[01:08] <superm1> kubuntu can be added to mythbuntu in the mythbuntu control centre
[01:08] <mandingoceo> didnt want to go that route
[01:09] <mandingoceo> i am computer literate just new to linux
[01:11] <superm1> well you should rule out the obvious things then first.  1) make sure your device is listed in the output of the lspci tool
[01:11] <superm1> 2) look for error messages in the dmesg tool
[01:11] <mandingoceo> did everything was fine there
[01:11] <superm1> 3) check to make sure you are in the mythtv group (look at the output of groups)
[01:11] <tritium> superm1: it doesn't look like you're subsribed to bug 153185, but I think that might be nice to try to get into jaunty
[01:12] <mandingoceo> i added my self to the group also
[01:13] <superm1> mandingoceo, well i dont have much more time for helping debug right now, i'd recommend making a post on the forums
[01:13] <mandingoceo> k thanks
[01:13] <superm1> tritium, can you get a debdiff on the bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors then?
[01:14] <tritium> superm1: ok.  Also, not sure if you ever saw my note to you sometime back that to do hdhomerun-config properly, I'd need to split out the library into a separate package.
[01:15] <tritium> I submitted a few other bug reports or comments, that don't seem to be getting anyone's attention.
[01:16] <tritium> Bug 321076
[01:18] <hads> People aren't paid to work on things
[01:18] <tritium> I also submitted a patch for /usr/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/20thirdparty/lirc.fdi to fix the DViCO Fusion Remote MCE, but it's not showing up in my subscribed bugs.  Strange...
[01:19] <tritium> hads: I know...
[01:21] <quaa_> anyone know what "I added a shlibs file with information about libvdpau in the nvidia package.." means?
[01:22] <quaa_> im trying to update my system and nvidia-180-libvdpau wont update
[01:22] <quaa_> so i spend some hours looking online and found this site - http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1127495.html
[01:26] <sloof3> I missed my opportunity to format my 3TB array. I've stopped the installation before MythTV setup.  I installed gparted but it's having some unknown problem formatting the xfs partition.  What course of action do I have?
[01:28] <sloof3> http://pastebin.com/m1f804605
[01:57] <sloof3> After a little searching maybe I have to use the 64-bit version
[01:57] <sloof3> Looks like my partition limit is 2.2TB
[02:30] <MythbuntuGuest34> is there a actual .iso image for mythbuntu
[02:30] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[02:30] <tgm4883_laptop> at mythbuntu.org
[02:31] <MythbuntuGuest34> click and download?
[02:31] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[02:31] <MythbuntuGuest34> where
[02:32] <MythbuntuGuest34> i downloaded somthing but i got 7 or 8 files
[02:32] <MythbuntuGuest34> none with a .iso extension
[02:34] <uSlacker> Hey Mythbuntu gurus - I need your help.  When I load the proprietary ATI drivers for my Diamond HD 2600XT, the mythbuntu frontend gets corrupt
[02:34] <uSlacker> if I exit out of the front-end, *buntu underneath looks fine
[02:41] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest34, http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads
[02:42] <sloof3> MythbuntuGuest34: Don't right-click and Save the first Link
[02:44] <MythbuntuGuest34> i aLSO BURNED THE FIRST CD AND IT SORTA WORKED IT DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO BOOT from the cd in the boot menu
[02:45] <MythbuntuGuest34> sorry hit caps lock
[02:49] <MythbuntuGuest34> how do i save the first link without right clicking
[02:54] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest34, left click on it?
[02:55] <MythbuntuGuest34> it gives me a wierd site
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> what weird site?
[02:56] <hads> wget http://osuosl.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-8.10-desktop-proper-i386.iso
[02:56] <sloof3> ...wtf
[02:56] <sloof3> MythbuntuGuest34: Don't right-click, click the first Link
[02:57] <MythbuntuGuest34> nvm i know what i did wrong i extreacted the files with win zip instead of leaving it as a iso
[02:57]  * sloof3 pulls trigger on revolver
[02:58] <MythbuntuGuest34> ?
[02:59] <MythbuntuGuest34> i also don't know to to get rid of the slection between vista and mythbuntu when i first boot my computer
[04:02] <superm1> tritium, that's fine if you need to split it.  same thing, submit a diff and subscribe u-u-s
[04:02] <superm1> and ping me if you aren't getting a response out of the queue
[04:03] <mandingoceo> i have a permission problem with my card and myth and cant figure it out
[04:04] <mandingoceo> i dont have permission to /dev/video0
[04:04] <mandingoceo> kubuntu 810
[04:04] <superm1> mandingoceo, i'm back now.  so if that's the case, then you need to add your user to generally the video group i think
[04:05] <superm1> check who owns /dev/video0
[04:05] <mandingoceo> k
[04:09] <mandingoceo> i added my self and myth to the video group
[04:11] <mandingoceo> from the terminal when i enter mythbackend i get the error no valid capture cards
[04:12] <mandingoceo> i read on a website some where where u posted cat /dev/video0 > ~/test.mpg to test the cards
[04:12] <mandingoceo> i do that i the mpg plays
[04:13] <superm1> that's only on hardware that supports analog v4l
[04:13] <superm1> digital hardware will show up in /dev/dvb
[04:13] <mandingoceo> i have the hvr 1600
[04:14] <mandingoceo> so i was connected to the analog input
[04:14] <superm1> well does the analog side work in linux though
[04:14] <superm1> have you checked on that already?
[04:14] <mandingoceo> no still get the permission denied
[04:14] <mandingoceo> and now the backend doesnt see the card
[04:16] <superm1> the permission denied may just be a red herring is what i am getting at
[04:16] <superm1> if the analog portion of the card doesn't work in linux
[04:16] <mandingoceo> oh
[04:17] <superm1> well it looks like it should all work according to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1600
[04:20] <mandingoceo> yeh i looked at that
[04:24] <mandingoceo> superm1 what does this mean MainServer::HandleVersion - Client speaks protocol version 31 but we speak 40!
[04:25] <superm1> that u are using the wrong version of a package
[04:25] <mandingoceo> ok
[04:26] <superm1> so maybe your backend is running 8.10 and your frontend 8.04
[04:26] <superm1> or something like that
[04:26] <mandingoceo> oh ok
[04:26] <superm1> somehow you've mixed older packages in
[04:27] <mandingoceo> so how can i redown load all the right ones
[04:28] <superm1> well i dont know where you got the wrong ones from
[04:28] <superm1> so i'd recommend undoing whatever you did to get the wrong ones on there
[05:16] <Suidog> hey there.  I'm having a problem with my backend. I'm running ubuntu 8.04 and everything seems to be working now after a bit of tweaking but it doesn't seem to be able to use my tuner card
[05:17] <Suidog> I see that it's loaded in dmesg as cx88 /dev/video0 and /dev/video1
[05:19] <Suidog> but when I look at the log for backend I see the following: channelbase(1) Error: InitializeInputs()
[05:19] <Suidog> anyone know what I could look at next?
[05:19] <Suidog> anyone alive in here?
[05:33] <mandingoceo> superm1 u still there
[05:37] <mandingoceo> ok got it working just keeps pausing though
[05:42] <mandingoceo> any1 home
[05:45] <Suidog> ok.. got some new stuff. I created the input group .. but now I just get a black screen when I go to watch live tv
[05:46] <Suidog> Mandingoceo .. is anyone responding in here?
[05:47] <mandingoceo> superm1 was but not anymore
[05:48] <Suidog> man .. all these people and no is here!
[05:49] <Suidog> it's like they have a life or something!! What gives! LOL
[05:49] <foxbuntu> mandingoceo, are you using an HVR-1600 with QAM or just ATSC/NTSC?
[05:49] <mandingoceo> yeh right
[05:50] <mandingoceo> qam
[05:50] <foxbuntu> Mythbuntu 8.10?
[05:50] <mandingoceo> kubunto 810
[05:50] <foxbuntu> hmm ok
[05:50] <Suidog> man I'm so close now.. I finally got everything working (no errors) and now I just get a black screen when I watch livetv .. I'm missing something
[05:51] <foxbuntu> sorry, I am having issues of my own
[05:51] <mandingoceo> scan your channels
[05:51] <foxbuntu> mandingoceo, my 1600 says no signal
[05:51] <mandingoceo> how do u have the card setup
[05:51] <Suidog> on the input I told it to use the channels from the listings
[05:51] <mandingoceo> k
[05:51] <foxbuntu> mandingoceo, the QAM goes to the middle RG6 jack right?
[05:51] <mandingoceo> yes
[05:52] <foxbuntu> ok
[05:52] <Suidog> man: asking me how I have it setup?
[05:52] <mandingoceo> yeh
[05:52]  * foxbuntu goes to build a new 8.10 machine to test with
[05:52] <Suidog> well I'm running 8.04 and my card had drivers loaded for it .. saw it in dmesg
[05:53] <Suidog> went in and selected the video0 as capture card
[05:53] <mandingoceo> k
[05:53] <Suidog> pull listing from for comcast in my area
[05:53] <Suidog> created input group with that source
[05:53] <Suidog> should I be doing anything else?
[05:53] <mandingoceo> what does your logs say
[05:54] <mandingoceo> cat /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[05:54] <Suidog> ah.. seeing a unknown codec error now
[05:55] <Suidog> it says go into profiles..
[05:55] <Suidog> profiles on backend?
[05:56] <Suidog> I didn't see a place to select codecs
[12:53] <jaymzh> Hey all. I changed my sources.list to intrepid, did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade', rebooted and the mythtv frontend is completely unresponsive. Nothing in the frontend logs except that it couldn't run cdrecord and couldn't register SIP. The frontend is completely unresponsive to keyboard input.
[12:54] <jaymzh> an strace shows it trying to do selects over and over but getting EGAIN
[13:00] <jaymzh> If I run mythtv-setup from another machine over x-forwarding, it works fine, I can select stuff... but from console, it doesn't work
[21:13] <MythbuntuGuest23> hello, i can dump raw video from my pvr-150 but i cannot open a channel through mythtv. the screen goes black and it never shows video. i made sure to set permissions on my recordings folder. where should i start troubleshooting?
[21:14] <MythbuntuGuest23> im using seperate back and frontend
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest23, you should start by pastebinning your logs
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> !pastebin
[21:15] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> !logs
[21:15] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[21:16] <tritium> MythbuntuGuest23: lucky that you have a PVR-150.  They don't sell them anymore, and analog on the newer cards (I have the WinTV-HVR-1800) is pathetic.
[21:16] <tritium> It's basically only good as an ATSC card.
[21:18] <tgm4883_laptop> analog is overrated
[21:18] <MythbuntuGuest23> yeah
[21:18] <MythbuntuGuest23> it looks really good
[21:18] <MythbuntuGuest23> i have always loved hauppauge
[21:18] <tgm4883_laptop> And I finally get to start complaining about the President for making dumb decisions
[21:18] <MythbuntuGuest23> what log should i pastebin?
[21:19] <tritium> Analog is what comes out of my DirecTV receiver.  Without it, I'm down 80% of my channels.
[21:19] <tgm4883_laptop> moving back the digital turn off date
[21:19] <tgm4883_laptop> bah
[21:19] <tgm4883_laptop> tritium, as does mine
[21:19] <tgm4883_laptop> you need to get an HDPVR
[21:19] <tgm4883_laptop> as do I ;)
[21:19] <MythbuntuGuest23> isnt it like /var/logs/mythtv or something?
[21:19] <tritium> I don't have DirecTV high-def.
[21:20] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest23, use mythbuntu-log-grabber
[21:20] <tgm4883_laptop> it will give us the logs we need
[21:20] <tritium> The HD-PVR wouldn't do much for me.  Besides, I don't want another external box.  I already have an HDHR.
[21:20] <tgm4883_laptop> note that I posted the two things you needed above
[21:22] <MythbuntuGuest23> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f49dda70e
[21:23] <MythbuntuGuest23> i just clicked on watch tv right before i ran that log
[21:24] <MythbuntuGuest23> if there is something else i need to do let me know
[21:29] <MythbuntuGuest23> speaking of that pvr-150 i have an all in wonder and another card somewhere and the difference in encoding quality is unreal
[21:29] <MythbuntuGuest23> for some reason that pvr-150 looks 10 times better pulling cable straight from analog
[21:36] <MythbuntuGuest23> yeah i can do cat /dev/video0 > whatever.mpg and pull video from my card. so i know its working. but when i connect my frontend to the system it wont open any channels
[21:37] <MythbuntuGuest23> and the frontend is really slow for some reason. i dont know if it is locking up or if it is just having a hard time.
[21:37] <MythbuntuGuest23> i just realized my transfer speed from backend to frontend is only 100kbps
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest23, strange, that log isn't showing me anything
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> is that from your backend or your frontend?
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> or is it the same maching?
[21:41] <MythbuntuGuest23> that is from my backend
[21:41] <MythbuntuGuest23> should i restart the backend, try to watch somethine and then pastebin the log again?
[21:53] <MythbuntuGuest23> holy shit
[21:53] <Zinn> MythbuntuGuest23: Please watch your language.
[21:53] <MythbuntuGuest23> it start working
[21:54] <MythbuntuGuest23> now i need to lookup the controls for this
[21:54] <MythbuntuGuest23> :)
[21:57] <MythbuntuGuest23> now to get rid of mythfrontend and replace it with xbmc
[21:57] <MythbuntuGuest23> is that a good or bad idea?
[21:58] <quaa> hey i have a problem, just installed my system using weekly builds and now when trying to run mythtv-setup it crashes before i get a menu displaying anything
[21:59] <quaa> logs look good i believe
[22:00] <quaa> im using http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds using trunk
[22:00] <kayle12> quaa: what theme are you using?
[22:01] <quaa> just installed the system so i havent picked a theme yet
[22:02] <kayle12> ahhh: ok well i had a problem the other day and it was the theme that caused it
[22:03] <quaa>  hmm i mean generally i dont have any problems but im confused with this
[22:05] <quaa> ohhh hmm
[22:05] <quaa> i loaded up mythfrontend and picked G.I.A.N.T
[22:05] <quaa> and its working now i guess
[22:06] <kayle12>  good must have been a slight error..
[22:06] <quaa> goot call man!
[22:10] <MythbuntuGuest23> how much transfer speed do i need between my back and frontend?
[22:10] <MythbuntuGuest23> because my backend is connected with a crappy wireless card
[22:11] <MythbuntuGuest23> im getting like between 50 and 100kbps transfer. and  its skipping really bad
[22:12] <MythbuntuGuest23> my backend and frontend are also seperated by 2500 feet
[22:45] <quaa> hmm
[22:51] <quaa> got different problems now.  Ran the backend setup and setup my pvr-150, now the things that dont work are themes (only ones that i tried that works is G.A.N.T. and blue
[22:51] <quaa> and when trying to "Watch TV" the frontend crashes
[22:54] <quaa> What i did was install mythbuntu 8.10 AMD64 from alternate cd (must use for my softraid) and updated everything, then did dist-upgrade, then installed the nvidia-180-glx / modaliases from https://launchpad.net/~anders-kaseorg/+archive/ppa
[22:54] <quaa> Then i added the trunk repo from http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds and updated again
[22:54] <quaa> then dist-upgrade again, everything is up to date now.
[22:55] <quaa> logs are @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1bcfcc27
[22:56] <stiev3> MythbuntuGuest23, too many variables are involved with wireless to really call that one I think.  You should definitely push for a wired connection.  Ballpark maybe ~13Mbps assuming 6g/hour or ~3Mbps for standard def 1g/hour.
[22:56] <sloof3> Should I be having trouble tuning QAM channels with the HVR 1250 in 8.10?
[23:00] <stiev3> MythbuntuGuest23, I think you're nearing 1Mbps at the top end, (if my bits/bytes conversion isn't retarded)
[23:01] <stiev3> MythbuntuGuest23, and that's assuming your card is in fact maintaining that rate, which with wireless cards tends to vary hugely and at a distance of half a mile from the access point... these parameters sound too extreme for reliable wireless mythtv
[23:11] <quaa> video from the capture card works in VLC but not in mythfrontend
[23:19] <rhpot1991> quaa: I think those trunk packages are busted
[23:21] <quaa> i believe its something with the nvidia-180 driver, i have asked multiple people and they say that i can use this driver (with vdapu) even though my 7600GT does not support vdapu - they said that it will not use the vdapu
[23:22] <quaa> here is my mythfrontend verbose output http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4552185c
[23:24] <rhpot1991> I'd guess either those packages are broken or you don't have the correct driver for VDPAU or your card doesn't support it
[23:24] <rhpot1991> last I heard there was something wrong with the trunk packages, might want to find out if they are ok
[23:25] <quaa> well to get rid of the trunk packages (if they are busted) could i just remove the source from my list
[23:25] <quaa> and update
[23:25] <quaa> or would i have to reinstall
[23:26] <rhpot1991> you will have to remove the packages that were installed as well
[23:26] <rhpot1991> otherwise there is nothing "newer" to upgrade to
[23:27] <rhpot1991> you can force specific versions as well, but its cleaner to get rid of the old then reinstall the packages
[23:27] <quaa> does the .21 fixes repo on http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds still work?
[23:27] <rhpot1991> yes
[23:27] <quaa> see the original reason i am trying to use the trunk is because when i was using my HDTV tuner on live tv
[23:28] <quaa> and click guide everything became unresponsive
[23:28] <quaa> and i read somewhere that the fixes/trunk repo is suppose to fix this problem
[23:28] <quaa> it was something to do with deinterlacing in the guide
[23:29] <rhpot1991> !%guide%
[23:29] <Zinn> If you have a slow guide in Live TV, this is most likely due to the bob deinterlacer.  Please try disabling this deinterlacer and test again.  If this is the case please report back.
[23:29] <rhpot1991> try that?
[23:29] <rhpot1991> also trunk has a ton of HD improvements, but its not really ready for most users
[23:29] <rhpot1991> still in development and all, so its not recommended unless you really know what you are doing
[23:30] <quaa> yeah that is why i am wanting to use the trunk
[23:30] <quaa> i can figure some of this stuff out but if that repo is messed up what is the other way to get trunk running on my system
[23:31] <rhpot1991> build it from source
[23:31] <quaa> Zinn: i would try that if i could but my system is borked now!
[23:31] <rhpot1991> Zinn: is a bot he wont talk back to you :P
[23:32] <quaa> oooooo
[23:32] <quaa> my bad
[23:32] <quaa> there is no other way to use trunk other than building it from source?
[23:33] <rhpot1991> use the packages when/if they are fixed
[23:33] <rhpot1991> once again though, trunk isn't really ready for end user use
[23:34] <quaa> ok so i guess the easiest think for me then
[23:35] <quaa> is to reinstall my system, and enable the fixes repo from http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[23:35] <quaa> ?
[23:38] <rhpot1991> quaa: shouldn't need to reinstall
[23:38] <rhpot1991> just remove all the mythtv packages
[23:39] <quaa> can i do that with mythbuntu control center?
[23:43] <rhpot1991> quaa: under "Advanced Management"
[23:44] <rhpot1991> click Launch Synaptic
[23:44] <rhpot1991> search for "mythtv" in here
[23:44] <rhpot1991> right click on the mythtv packages that are installed (green check box), and choose "mark for complete removal"
[23:45] <rhpot1991> do that for them all then apply, and they should all be gone
[23:45] <quaa> then reinstallation?
[23:45] <rhpot1991> add the fixes repo, remove the trunk one
[23:46] <rhpot1991> then you can use MCC to install whichever configuration you want
[23:46] <rhpot1991> make sure you do a "sudo apt-get update" first
[23:46] <rhpot1991> before using MCC that is
[23:46] <rhpot1991> for the reinstallation
[23:48] <quaa> k
[23:48] <quaa> trying