[00:00] <Frijolie> kjell, ikonia, thanks
[00:00] <ikonia> andrew__: show me ls -la on the stdio.h
[00:00] <freazer> Frijolie: sorry there isn't always a gui way to do it :-( I'm frustrated with that often myself - on fresh Ubuntu installs I add myself to the 'users' group and set that as my default, all new users I also add, if you aren't using multiple then you can ignore the :yourgroup and just do sudo chown -R yourusername ./media
[00:00] <andrew__> ikonia: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31053 Jan  9 14:08 stdio.h
[00:00] <Frijolie> is there a suggested way to handle groups, I have 30+ pre populated groups in here...
[00:00] <andrew__> as a normal user, i can read the files fine
[00:01] <Frijolie> isn't it smarter--security wise--to have fewer groups?
[00:01] <andrew__> and to compile you shouldnt need write permissions on headers
[00:01] <ikonia> andrew__: look inside stdio.h see what else it references, one of the files it's referencing
[00:01] <ikonia> andrew__: one of the files it's referecing must have the wrong permissions
[00:01] <kjell> Frijolie: It depends on what you want to do. If you want to restrict people from using commands etc. it's wise to have groups for that.
[00:01] <freazer> Frijolie: lots of applications and services have their own groups, each has very limited permissions - it's actually fine and necessary by the default install to have quite a lot
[00:01] <owner_> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[00:01] <owner_> what does that mean?
[00:02] <kjell> owner_: The public key is not available.
[00:02] <Frijolie> freazer, kjell, so one user may be a member of multiple groups--to handle access/permissions to various applications
[00:02] <owner_> it said something about a synaptic app already being open also but thre isn't one
[00:02] <owner_> how can I see what is running other than on the taskbar?
[00:02] <kjell> owner_: in the terminal run ps -a
[00:03] <sjefen6> Does anyone know how to open sda1 (ntfs) in xubuntu?
[00:03] <sjefen6> (live cd)
[00:03] <kjell> owner_: or ps -e
[00:03] <Dante123> hi all, installed ubuntu 8.10 on Dell Inspiron 1501 with 1gb ram.  It is using open source video driver, but I see under restricted drivers there is an ATI/AMD proprietary driver.  Should I use this?  Will it work better?  What do you recommend?
[00:03] <kjell> owner_: if you want to filter it you can run ps -e | grep firefox
[00:03] <kjell> owner_: to retrieve firefox in the list
[00:03] <Mba7eth> My home ubuntu box is have IP from DHCP pool by ISP. How can i keep knowing my IP even if the address changed.... I main want to ip to telnet ?
[00:04] <kjell> Mba7eth: run ifconfig in terminal
[00:04] <owner_> it says
[00:04] <owner_> PID TTY          TIME CMD
[00:04] <owner_>  7284 pts/1    00:00:00 ps
[00:04] <kjell> owner_: only that? if you ran ps -e?
[00:04] <freazer> Mba7eth: I recommend dyndns.org or some other dynamic utility - you can get a URL like Mba7eth.dyndns.org that will always point to your computer - there are tools that can run as a service on your ubuntu machine that will keep that website up to date
[00:05] <Mba7eth> freazer: can you mention a tool plzzz :)
[00:05] <freazer> Frijolie: FYI there are three tiers to file access, user level, group level, and "other"=everyone - there's rwx for each r=read, w=write, x=execute(as in programs) - yes users can be apart of multiple groups, but I think files can only be associated with a single group - if you only want to backup on your current account it's fine to change the ownership of that media folder to just your username, but leave the group as root (whic
[00:06] <owner_> ok it  all kinds of stuff, what am I looking for?
[00:06] <kjell> owner_: I don't know? Why do you want to see the processes?
[00:06] <kjell> owner_: Do you want to terminate a process or something?
[00:06] <owner_> it said I couldn't authentic or update because a synaptic app was already running
[00:07] <kjell> owner_: It's not?
[00:07] <owner_> maybe a synaptic process, but I don't see it anywhere
[00:07] <freazer> Mba7eth: I use ddclient http://ddclient.wiki.sourceforge.net/ to update - it has support for a number of dynamic dns websites -- dyndns.org is currently annoying me because it e-mails me once a month when my IP doesn't change
[00:07] <kjell> owner_: It could be like, apt-get aswell I think.
[00:07] <Frijolie> so, it would not be safe to delete all of these groups besides root and user?
[00:07] <BlueEagle> owner_: Has synaptic finished uncleanly? Have you got any installations using other apt-based methods running?
[00:07] <Mba7eth> freazer:  thanks
[00:08] <owner_> yeah
[00:08] <freazer> Frijolie: I'd advice against it ^^ - trust Ubuntu to be setup the way it needs to be
[00:08] <kjell> owner_: make sure all apt-get's and so on is finished installing.
[00:08] <owner_> hw?
[00:08] <andrew__> ikonia: ok all my libs / headers have exactly the same permissions, but i have noticed that stdio.h includes a few files that exist in subfolders of the include directory but arent specified like that in the stdio.h file (surely that would mess things up for all users even root? if it was a problem?)
[00:08] <owner_> HOW
[00:08] <owner_> caps
[00:09] <Dante123> hi all, installed ubuntu 8.10 on Dell Inspiron 1501 with 1gb ram.  It is using open source video driver, but I see under restricted drivers there is an ATI/AMD proprietary driver.  Should I use this?  Will it work better?  What do you recommend?
[00:09] <BlueEagle> mba7eth: It has been my experience though that after pointing a domain to my box the number of port scans and brute force attack attempts increase. Be sure to have a good firewall running and you may want to concider port knocking on remote access servers like ssh.
[00:09] <kjell> Dante123: I would use it.
[00:09] <moonwatcher> anyone has problems with Marvel 88E8056 cards under 8.10
[00:09] <freazer> andrew_: the only reason you should be having that issue is that your lib or important .h headers were not setup as rx-r--r-- (the important thing being that 3rd r in the 7th dash position)
[00:09] <moonwatcher> i think the latest kernel broke something
[00:10] <sjefen6> How can I browse a ntfs patition on a live cd?
[00:10] <owner_> kjell-how to make sure all apt-get's finished?
[00:10] <moonwatcher> its completely messed up
[00:10] <andrew__> freezer, well all my libs and headers have those permissions
[00:10] <kjell> Dante123: By not using propertary software is for some people an ideology question.
[00:10] <Frijolie> freazer, I don't remember Ubuntu prompting me for which group I preferred to be in during install
[00:10] <Frijolie> freazer, do they just create a new group by your username and set that as your default?
[00:10] <kjell> owner_: I don't know. Check your terminals and so on. If you don't find anything I think you will be back on track faster if you just do a reboot.
[00:10] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: any particular kind of "completely messed up" or just _completely_ messed up (ie, the driver files are garbled.
[00:11] <owner_> kjell-good point, thx
[00:11] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: well its refusing to function at 1Gb
[00:11] <redvamp128> Frijolie:  yes -- it defaults to user -- because you can gksu or sudo to obtain root access.
[00:11] <kjell> owner_: no problem, good luck!
[00:11] <moonwatcher> even when lshw says it does
[00:11] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: But it does work at lower speeds?
[00:11] <kjell> owner_: no problem, good luck!
[00:11] <freazer> Frijolie: yes ^^ I always chown my own /home/usern folder to the :users group and then reassign myself to that and delete the group that ubuntu created for just my username - we're getting pretty side tracked tho.. did changing the owner of your media drive away from root work for rsync?
[00:12] <moonwatcher> and the little thingy near the clock (network manager or something) claims its "not managed"
[00:12] <Frijolie> redvamp128, I know about the sudo/gksudo to gain root privileges but was wondering what default group you're placed in
[00:12] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: yes it gives me 2MB/s
[00:12] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: That is the case when the device is defined in your interfaces.
[00:12] <asingha> msg nickserv identify
[00:12] <redvamp128> Frijolie:  User (but is a group with your user name)
[00:12] <Frijolie> freazer, yeah I did change owner/group to <username>:<username>
[00:13] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: maybe i can pasebin some stuff instead of tryign to explain in lame words?
[00:13] <freazer> Frijolie: I'm reading that rsync runs as "nobody" but default and that you might - I'd definately check the config preferences for it if you are still having issues
[00:13] <Frijolie> redvamp128, oh I just changed to the "user" group and deleted my <username> group
[00:13] <BrettS> guys
[00:13] <Cody> What is the operating sysem os x ?
[00:13] <Frijolie> redvamp128, for my personal account
[00:13] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: its an ASUS P5B Deluxe with latest BIOS, has 2 onboard NICs
[00:14] <freazer> Cody: proprietary macintosh os x, I don't think you can buy it separately without buying a mac - despite that it runs on Intel architecture now
[00:14] <BrettS> I'm trying to install linux graphics drivers for my intel 965g card. I am looking at this site, can someone help me... http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[00:14] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.com/m4d066925
[00:14] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well, first off one would have to try to figure out what you would pastebin. And since you're refering to the network-manager-applet as "the little thing near the clock" we'll need to get the basics straight first.
[00:15] <Cody> freazer:  I have a slight problem. I want my router to find wireless networks and not my computer. How do i do that?
[00:15] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: we dont need to go all the way to basics
[00:15] <moonwatcher> i have a CS degree from a respectable Uni :)
[00:15] <moonwatcher> and about 3 years of linux
[00:15] <andrew__> freazer: ive even gone to the legnths now of chmod all the files in my include directory to 644 (except folders) to make sure they are all correct, and still getting errors when compiling as users but not when as root
[00:15] <moonwatcher> its just that this always worked out of the box, never got around ro dealing with it
[00:16] <moonwatcher> i mean networking
[00:16] <jrib> moonwatcher: what exactly isn't working?
[00:16] <unixdawg> kde 4.2 rocks
[00:16] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: You've used linux for three years and you still don't know what the network manager applet is called? o.0
[00:16] <BlueEagle> jrib: His gigabit nic only puts trough 2 MiB/s
[00:16] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: its always there near the clock, i never gave it much attention :)
[00:17] <BlueEagle> jrib: I am figuring cable or an interface in between not handling gigabit.
[00:17] <moonwatcher> besides, most of the time i worked either on OpenWrt or a HUGE debian cluster
[00:17] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well I'm glad that degree of yours is coming handy. :)
[00:17] <Cody> My computer is what finds wireless connections. Is there a way to connect to a wireless connection from my router and not my computer?
[00:17] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: it worked igabit just before the last kernel bump
[00:18] <BrettS> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[00:18] <moonwatcher> anyway, i seriously doubt its doing gigabit
[00:18] <moonwatcher> i think its 100TX
[00:18] <BrettS> Sooo anyone have experience installing linux graphics drivers?
[00:18] <moonwatcher> the led is orange
[00:18] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well, that would have been helpful to know before I started to figure out how to debut the cabling and other interfaces. Have you tried downgrading the kernel=
[00:18] <moonwatcher> i think it shoudl be green when on 1000
[00:18] <BlueEagle> ?
[00:18] <matthewh23> hi
[00:19] <freazer> Cody: so your computer is plugged into your router via an ethernet cable, and you want to somehow configure your wireless-capable router to connect to another wireless source rather than be a broadcast service? virtually all of your router configuration will be by accessing it's website via it's ip address from a machine connected directly to it in some way - do I understand the problem statement at least?
[00:19] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: i tried booting a livecd of 8.10 desktop (the system is now on server)
[00:19] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: on the livecd i got about 12MB/s
[00:19] <moonwatcher> which is still not really gigabit but is more likely
[00:20] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: So then it's a kernel configuration issue. I assume you're able to roll your own kernel after 3 years of linux and a uni degree, right?
[00:20] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: not sure :)
[00:20] <moonwatcher> i never went back to an older kernel i am afraid
[00:20] <freazer> BrettS: if you're in Ubuntu you've already tried System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and confirmed that the proprietary ones aren't already detected? have you gone into Software Sources and enabled the restricted and multiverse repositories?
[00:21] <moonwatcher> is it simply a matter of removing the package and putting in the older one?
[00:21] <moonwatcher> oh wait
[00:21] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: I see. Well, then the best advice I can give you is to bugreport the kernel issue and downgrade to the previous kernel package unless there are updates in there that you really, really need.
[00:21] <moonwatcher> i also installed the tainted Nvidia drivers
[00:21] <moonwatcher> not sure if thats related
[00:21] <Cody> freazer:  I didnt understand how you put that. My computer is plugged into nothing. IT picks up internet connections by itself.
[00:21] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: It should not be, but since it's closed source one can never be sure.
[00:22] <Cody> freazer:  I want the internet connection to go through my router not directly to my computer.
[00:22] <Cody> How do i do that?
[00:22] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: But since that driver is only a module for the kernel it should not affect other parts of it.
[00:22] <mauro_> hello
[00:22] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: would you say those Marvel drivers are easly broken?
[00:22] <MIrrorIMage> mauro: hi
[00:23] <moonwatcher> at some point i though maybe putting in a an Intel PCI-E card woudl be a less painful solution
[00:23] <adubz> what do i need to setup ntfs support for linux?
[00:23] <freazer> BrettS: google is telling me your card is aready supported from Ubuntu 7.04 onwards - intel 965g http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430277
[00:23] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Never had a marvel card so I would not know. I also have to little knowledge of the overall implimentation of the module code to know how robust it is against broken modules.
[00:23] <BrettS> well, why is it that I cannot run compiz, that it says missing XGL and xorg etc etc etc
[00:24] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: those marvel cards are very common onboard cards
[00:24] <freazer> adubz: look for a package in Synaptic similar to ntfstools - it will allow you to do all sorts of crazy things like resizing NTFS partitions - just be careful! backup your data beforehand just in case
[00:24] <moonwatcher> on asus boards anyway
[00:24] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Just out of curiousity: Did you configure the network card in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon1> How do I restart my Apache server?
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon1> I forgot
[00:24] <freazer> Cody: why did you ask about os x? is that what you're using?
[00:24] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon1> it's like Apache-Restart or something
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon1> thanks
[00:24] <adubz> i just want to be able to read/write to ntfs drives
[00:24] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: no, but i woudl actually feel more comfortable with that then with the "little thingy near the clock"  :)
[00:25] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: you may want to just use 'reload' if you just updated some configs.
[00:25] <Cody> freazer:  On the belkin software install cd it did not include Linux so i was wondering what that was.
[00:25] <Frijolie> when it says the group is "1000" what does that mean?
[00:25] <Cody> Im using ubuntu and the software install cd doesnt work.
[00:26] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well if the driver supports it you could attempt to force it to 1G instead of 100M (or even 10M if that's what it's running)
[00:26] <freazer> Cody: Ubuntu wireless drivers is a little tricky and not all wireless cards are supported - can you give me the full name of your wireless card? Belkin --- ?
[00:26] <BlueEagle> freazer: That is the groupid. try this: cat /etc/group |grep 1000
[00:27] <BlueEagle> freazer: That should hopefully show the name that belongs to gid 1000
[00:27] <kholerabbi> can I turn gnome-panels off?
[00:27] <BlueEagle> freazer: (most likely the first user defined)
[00:27] <adubz> i can see the drive how would i mount it
[00:28] <freazer> Frijolie: in GNOME I go System -> Administrator -> Users and Groups and I see my own <username> group has a group ID# of 1000, if you deleted it that's probably what's left over ^^; I tried to warn you to chown the group of your files over to a different group before you deleted, where exactly are you seeing the group ID 1000 ?
[00:28] <cphillips> kholerabbi: right click the panel and select "Delete panel"
[00:28] <freazer> BlueEagle:  I didn't ask that but you beat me to the right answer ^^ thanks much
[00:29] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.com/m176d59e7
[00:29] <Frijolie> freazer, cd /media/disk;ls -l
[00:29] <BlueEagle> freazer: Happy tab-complete-day.
[00:29] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: What does lspci say about your nic?
[00:29] <Cody> freazer:  Maybe im not putting this rite ist my fault. MY network control is broadcom bcm4311 802.11b/g WLAN (internal) and thats whats picks up the internet connection. I want the Belkin router to find the connection and connect to it.
[00:29] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: That's `lspci|grep Ethernet` if you need the command. :)
[00:30] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.com/m7c5af378
[00:30] <moonwatcher> oops
[00:30] <sav> how can I know which compilation parameters AND "./configure" (if applicable) parameters were used when compiling a package?
[00:30] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.com/m309dbaf
[00:30] <jrib> !source > sav
[00:30] <jrib> sav: read debian/rules from the source package
[00:31] <jrib> ,,,,,,,,
[00:31] <sav> cool
[00:31] <sav> thanks
[00:31] <chrisrio_> mod_security is killing my inner child, is anyone fairly up-to-date with it by chance? (i've tried in #apache):P
[00:32] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/811253?page=last
[00:32] <SherlawkDragon1> Hmm...
[00:33] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: There seems to be a known issue with rev 12.
[00:33] <freazer> Cody: have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779754 - its a thread that details exactly how to do get your card to work
[00:33] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: its hooked up to a Netgear GS105 switch btw and two other Macs hooked up to it talk 1Gb fine...
[00:33] <SherlawkDragon1> when I go to localhost with firefox, Apache gives me an Access Denied error
[00:33] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: But that post is from '07 and does not explain the downgrade from the latest kernel update.
[00:34] <SherlawkDragon1> What might the problem be?
[00:34] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Then you may want to check your cabling tbh. Especially if the router indicates it doesn't run at 1G. (Did it indicate that when running from the live cd?)
[00:35] <moonwatcher> the switch said 100
[00:35] <moonwatcher> well it does now
[00:35] <moonwatcher> said 1000 on the livecd
[00:35] <moonwatcher> cables are fine i am quite sure
[00:35] <Flare183> !enter | moonwatcher
[00:35] <albe> ciao a tutti
[00:35] <freazer> Cody: and just to clarify, I don't think routers find and connect to computers - routers are small booklet sized devices that provide ethernet porns and/or broadcast a wireless service to nearby devices - you have a much better chance of configuring a computer than a router - if you're here in this channel I'm assuming this is a new computer installation and not a new router - if the router is new you might need to configure it to
[00:35] <tritium> !it | albe
[00:36] <moonwatcher> Flare183: sorry ...
[00:36] <Flare183> moonwatcher: np
[00:36] <freazer> andrew__: still around?
[00:36] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: I see. Well, then everything points to the drivers in the kernel.
[00:37] <kholerabbi> cphillips: thanks but what I was wanting was to disable gnome-panels (as in the whole shibang) from starting up..
[00:37] <Dante123> hi
[00:37] <SherlawkDragon1> when I go to localhost with firefox, Apache gives me an Access Denied error.  Why might I get this problem?  Is there an access thing I need to set?
[00:37] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: would that be something that is resolved at some point or should i just get a PCI-E NIC?
[00:38] <moonwatcher> the machine is a server for the other 3 Mac boxes in the house and having the link so slow is a bumer
[00:39] <freazer> moonwatcher: it's gibabit ethernet and you're only getting 2 MBytes/sec ?
[00:39] <sagredo> alright
[00:39] <sagredo> who here has been logging this channel the longest
[00:39] <moonwatcher> freazer: well its obviously faulty
[00:40] <sagredo> and where can I access those logs
[00:40] <yurimxpxman> I just installed gnome-do from the repo linked to in their wiki, but there's no docky. Any ideas?
[00:40] <moonwatcher> what would be a good, ubuntu suppported, PCI-E NIC? intel?
[00:40] <bazhang> !1984 > sagredo
[00:40] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well, if you report the regression as a bug then it ought to be fixed. And unless there are any important security fixes in the latest kernel and no new features you really need then it should be no harm in downgrading.
[00:40] <SherlawkDragon1> when I go to localhost with firefox, Apache gives me an Access Denied error.  Why might I get this problem?  Is there some access thing I need to set?
[00:40] <rww> yurimxpxman: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and is it 32-bit or 64-bit?
[00:40] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: That said, using tried and tested hardware is never a bad idea.
[00:41] <sagredo> so much power
[00:41] <sagredo> sheesh
[00:41] <yurimxpxman> rww: 32 bit hardy
[00:41] <sagredo> so
[00:41] <sagredo> how many of you switch between gentoo and ubuntu
[00:41] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: according to http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-236334_38_0.html other people have experienced issues with that nic in linux.
[00:41] <bazhang> !ot > sagredo
[00:41] <freazer> moonwatcher: how are the hard disk drivers configured? I thought even SATA150/300 drives could only seriously sustain 20~50 MB/sec ? getting a PCI-E card seems like it would be overkill, but I just might be completely wrong about the transfer speeds
[00:41] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: which hardware would be "tried and tested" ?
[00:41] <bazhang> sagredo, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:42] <csc_> where are translations files in the system for ubiquity?
[00:42] <rww> yurimxpxman: The latest version of gnome-do in the ~do-core PPA for Hardy is 0.6.1, which I don't think has docky. Intrepid and Jaunty have 0.8.0.
[00:42] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: I've never had any trouble with RealTek gb nics. Have got no experience with Intel nics.
[00:43] <yurimxpxman> rww: so I'm gonna have to build it myself, then?
[00:43] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: I guess looking at different products and comparing how many people complain would be a good indicator.
[00:43] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: i had bad expriece with realtek :)
[00:43] <moonwatcher> on occasions...
[00:43] <freazer> moonwatcher: I think I'm old ^^ PCI still feels cutting edge to me, but with a peak transfer of 133 MB/sec I'm sure it can saturate a gigabit ethernet capable router
[00:43] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: gigabit or the older nics?
[00:43] <junglist_> So I'm thinking about getting a new 1TB hard drive for my vanilla ubuntu 8.10 media server. Any suggestions? I know I should avoid the Seagate but what about another manufacturer?
[00:43] <moonwatcher> gigabit
[00:44] <tritium> junglist_: Western Digital Green (WD10EADS)
[00:44] <moonwatcher> that whole "gigabit card refusing to do gigabit" story is not a first for me
[00:44] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well then I guess NICs just don't like you much. :p Anyways, that's all the advice I've got for you. :/
[00:44] <tritium> junglist_: it's the quietest and most power-efficient drive that silentpcreview.com has *ever* tested
[00:44] <moonwatcher> :)
[00:44] <_VIM_> junglist_: what's wrong with Seagate?
[00:44] <rww> yurimxpxman: That might work, but you'd also have to get a newer version of Mono, 'cause the one that ships with hardy is too old (hence the PPA not having do 0.8 for Hardy)
[00:44] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: ill try downgrading the kernel and see what happnes
[00:44] <tritium> _VIM_: firmware problems have been bricking their drives lately
[00:44] <moonwatcher> be back in a few
[00:45] <_VIM_> ah
[00:45] <SherlawkDragon1> when I go to localhost with firefox, Apache gives me an Access Denied error.  Why might I get this problem?  Is there some access thing I need to set?
[00:45] <junglist_> tritium: Thanks. I was kinda leaning that way and you sealed it. :)
[00:45] <tritium> junglist_: :)
[00:45] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: if you're running firefox and apache on the same physical machine you need to set apace to listen to localhost (127.0.0.1)
[00:45] <SherlawkDragon1> ah, ok
[00:45] <Flannel> SherlawkDragon1: Your files need to be readable by www-data
[00:46] <tritium> junglist_: I just put one in my mythtv box, and I absolutely love it.  It's wicket quiet.
[00:46] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: Wait, that should have given you a connection refused.
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon1> oh, ok
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon1> so
[00:46] <tritium> wicked, even
[00:46] <mr_linuxmen> can you hel me
[00:46] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: Are the files you're attempting to access readable by the user running apache?
[00:46] <Guest17688> hey guys i just installed ubuntu server and it appears that i have a little issue... i need to install from thumbdrive dsktp for this client
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon1> Flannel> how dso I do that?
[00:46] <Guest17688> how do i mount the thumb drive
[00:46] <Guest17688> ?
[00:46] <rww> yurimxpxman: Looks like you can get Mono 1.9.1 fromhttp://directhex.mfgames.com/hardy.html , which should be new enough.
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon1> I'm the user running apache, they are my files.
[00:46] <mr_linuxmen> i new use ubuntu
[00:46] <freazer> SherlawkDragon1: it sounds like you have an Apache2 configuration problem, most likely with the DocumentRoot - I think it has nothing to do with ubuntu ^^;
[00:47] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: No, apache is running as it's own user: `ps aux|grep apache`
[00:47] <SherlawkDragon1> AH, ok
[00:47] <SherlawkDragon1> I'll make them public then
[00:47] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: www-data is running my apache.
[00:47] <Flannel> SherlawkDragon1: chmod a+r file would work.
[00:47] <SherlawkDragon1> thanks
[00:48] <SherlawkDragon1> Flannel> that's what I
[00:48] <entropy8> Alright guys, anyone familiar with using wpa_supplicant in use with the aircrack suite?
[00:48] <SherlawkDragon1> 'm doing
[00:50] <UndertakerX2> is there a a c+ compiler already in ubuntu server or do i need to install one?
[00:50]  * matterazi fui :w
[00:50] <tritium> UndertakerX2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:50] <SherlawkDragon1> It worked.
[00:50] <UndertakerX2> tritium: thanks
[00:50] <dirki> hey guys how do you mount a thumb drive
[00:50] <yurimxpxman> rww: thanks! Compiling mono would've been a pita
[00:51] <rww> UndertakerX2: install the build-essential package and then use g++
[00:51] <dirki> my system is asking for fs type
[00:51] <tritium> rww: as I told him above
[00:51] <zaapiel> is their a gui for changing my host name?
[00:51] <zaapiel> i know how to edit /etc/hosts
[00:51] <UndertakerX2> rww: g++ or c++?
[00:51] <freazer> andrew_: If you're still listening I highly recommend you apt-get reinstall build-essential -- possibly even uninstalling it via purge
[00:51] <zaapiel> i just dont want too
[00:51] <rww> tritium: you didn't mention the compiler name, and I was most of the way through typing anyway ;)
[00:51] <rww> UndertakerX2: g++
[00:51] <tritium> UndertakerX2: that will install more than just g++, many of the packages that are considered "essential" for development
[00:51] <dirki> how do you mount a thumbdrive with fs type named
[00:51] <UndertakerX2> tritium: thanks again
[00:51] <skeletal> guys, i'm installing a ubuntu... I need to now how many can I put for /SWAP ??????  i have 512RAM memory
[00:52] <UndertakerX2> rww: thanks to you to
[00:52] <tritium> UndertakerX2: sure
[00:52] <kazagistar> I installed Jaunty, and I noticed that "System -> Preferences -> Sound" has disappeared... how/where can I find it?
[00:52] <freazer> skeletal: do you mean how much space you should partition for swap?
[00:52] <rww> kazagistar: Jaunty support is in #ubuntu+1, not here. Thanks :)
[00:52] <tritium> skeletal: rule of thumb is about 2X your ram, or 2GB, whichever is less.
[00:52] <dirki> anyone
[00:52] <dirki> i running from ubuntu server...
[00:52] <kazagistar> rww: sorry, thank you!
[00:52] <rww> skeletal: somewhere between 512MB and 1GB.
[00:53] <freazer> dirki: is this a new thumb drive that's empty? or have you already used it on other computers?
[00:53] <zaapiel> gui for changing hostname?
[00:53] <zaapiel> anyone?
[00:53] <tritium> zaapiel: easier to type
  I have 512M of memory. Then how many for swap?
[00:53] <kazagistar> join #ubuntu+1
[00:53] <kazagistar> crud
[00:53] <kazagistar> sorry
[00:53] <freazer> zaapiel: I think I'm having the exact same problem as you
[00:53] <FloodBot1> kazagistar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <zaapiel> humor me
[00:53] <skeletal> How many I need for swap?
[00:54] <tritium> skeletal: we told you above
[00:54] <rww> skeletal: as we've already said, between 1x and 2x your RAM. So in your case, 512MB to 1GB. If you want a number, not a range, go with 1GB.
[00:54] <UndertakerX2> tritium: i already ahd build esentials installed, but when i try to install vmware tools on ubuntu server i cant get past the part that says i need a c++ compiler installed
[00:54] <freazer> zaapiel: So when you go System -> Administration -> Networking (General Tab) you can normally change your computer name
[00:55] <tritium> UndertakerX2: please type "g++ --version", to verify you have it installed.
[00:55] <freazer> zaapiel: But I'm running a clean install of Ubuntu 8.10, installed recently off the live cd and I don't have that option in my Administration -> menu -- I only see Network Tools which is NOT the same
[00:55] <tritium> zaapiel: easier to use the "hostname" command
[00:55] <UndertakerX2> tritium: it says version 4.3.2 is isntalled
[00:55] <tritium> UndertakerX2: good
[00:56] <freazer> tritium: thank you! I did not know about that command! any idea why my System -> Administration menu is missing some major applets?
[00:56] <ivan_> hola
[00:57] <ivan_> algun espalol¿¿?
[00:57] <zaapiel> freazer: same here
[00:57] <zaapiel> i dont have it either
[00:57] <rww> freazer: Sys > Admin > Networking was removed in Intrepid (or maybe Hardy, I forget which). Nobody else with your version of Ubuntu has it either ;)
[00:57] <_VIM_> !es | IVBela
[00:57] <zaapiel> i install ubuntu from sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:57] <zaapiel> from kubuntu
[00:57] <zaapiel> no Network (General) tab either
[00:57] <_VIM_> oops sorry IVBela meant that for ivan_ :)
[00:58] <tritium> freazer: no, such as?
[00:58] <IVBela> ^^
[00:58] <freazer> rww: That makes me feel a lot better! https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/internet/C/networking-changecompname.html this page is a liar! can you or someone else edit this?
[00:58] <DB42> let's say i got a program "prog1" which needs 2 input lines via STDIN, how do i push them via a shell command ?
[00:59] <rww> freazer: I can't, but I'll file a bug on it. Thanks for pointing it out.
[00:59] <terr_> Great going with the HP netbok 1000MI  WOW
[00:59] <terr_> Do we have other very small form factor success stories like this?
[01:00] <tritium> terr_: Sylvania Meso G
[01:00] <terr_> Also - I do have a question.  I'm planning on sending a live CD overseas to a friend for her son adn will want to configure and install ubuntu for him.  What I will need is an "ET" call home to one of my servers and I do run static IP's.  What should I look for?
[01:00] <BrianLy> Disk Question: I've added a new physical SATA hard disk (/dev/sdb) to an ubuntu server (8.10). How do I partition/mount it? First hard disk (/dev/sda) was setup as "Guided with LVM" at install time.
[01:01] <freazer> Any clue why e2fsck -f finds new errors on an ext3 partition every time I run it? (it's wrapped inside an LVM and MDADM raid mirror, I've read weird things about the superblock not fitting at the bottom, but I don't really understand it?)
[01:01] <terr_> Another option is to ask if there is someone in this chennel or somone someone trusts who lives in Brissy and would be willing to do an install for a 13YO
[01:01] <_VIM_> ET? Lol you're showing your age terr_ ;)
[01:01] <rahduke> Can someone please help me out, I'm buggin out been having connection issues for weeks and can't seem to get help
[01:01] <rahduke> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060511
[01:01] <Flannel> DB42: echo -e "asdf\nhjkl"
[01:01] <terr_> _VIM_: I'm still immature I'm sure
[01:01] <rahduke> i refer you to my thread on ubuntu forums
[01:01] <freazer> BrianLy: I highly recommend the System -> Administration -> Partition Editor -- if you don't have that option install the package gparted
[01:02] <terr_> _VIM_: nto yet having reached my best before date
[01:02] <BrianLy> freazer: Can I do that from the commandline? No X or Gnome on this server
[01:03] <terr_> tritium: I'm looking for something tiny that can serve as a web server and is real cheap.
[01:03] <MIrrorIMage> Hi, how can I register my nickname with Xchat or NIckServ?
[01:03] <tritium> !register
[01:03] <DB42> Flannel: thanks
[01:04] <rahduke> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060511 --- Come onnnn someone take a look, im dyin over here
[01:04] <rww> !repeat | rahduke
[01:04] <freazer> BrianLy: the commandline equivalent is parted and will satisfy all your partition needs ^^ when you're done edit your /etc/fstab to add the new mount point by device
[01:04] <terr_> rahduke: what's your question?
[01:04] <rahduke> terr_: if you can please take a look at my thread
[01:05] <BrianLy> freazer: thx I'll try that
[01:05] <Safe> Well that was wierd. I inserted the IP as it should be, restarted the computer and know the netmask always resets to 25.
[01:05] <rww> freazer: Looks like "System → Administration → Network" slipped into a couple of other places in 8.10's documentation. I added the URL you posted to an existing bug report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc/+bug/314680
[01:05] <terr_> ok - new angle - what is the smallest cheapest hardware for a webserver... hopefully very low power draw
[01:05] <rahduke> terr_: I'm having connection issues for some reason, loses wired ethernet connection all the time for no particular reason
[01:05] <terr_> rahduke: can you ping?
[01:05] <jero_> With the standard Ubuntu install on this nc8000 laptop with a pentium m and ati 9600, i get 3d acceleration to work properly in openarena for example, but suspend & compiz doesnt work. Installing the proprietary drivers, 3d acceleration works & compiz works & suspend works, but loging out does not work(screen goes blank and system becomes unresponsive).
[01:06] <rahduke> terr_: sure
[01:06] <unixdawg> ok having issues with a few apps
[01:06] <Safe> How do I go about doing it manually?
[01:06] <freazer> rww: I really appreciate it ^^ excellent work
[01:06] <Chaorain> I am useing "Ubuntu ultamite editon" and I can't mount data cds/movie dvds or even detect my usb flash drive. I can read and play Audio cds. help?
[01:06] <jdsandeson> Terr a dell latitude laptop 9.6 wats
[01:06] <unixdawg> I have installed zoiper and xten softphone
[01:06] <jero_> enable "no_dri" "yes" will allow my system to logout properly, but then i lose 3d acceleration and suspend again
[01:06] <terr_> rahduke: when you have no connection can you ping?  I'm wondering if part is going down and not all
[01:06] <rahduke> terr_: no i cannot
[01:06] <unixdawg> and I get audio but they are not picking up the usb headset mic
[01:06] <terr_> rahduke: how about if they are side by side
[01:06] <tritium> Chaorain: doesn't ubuntu ultimate edition have their own support channel?
[01:07] <MIrrorIMage> ubottu: I am new to Linux. How do I access the "IRC" software?
[01:07] <Flannel> Chaorain: Ubuntu Ultimtae Edition isn't supported here.  They ... change a lot of things that can break some stuff, etc.  We recommend you install real Ubuntu, and go with that.
[01:07] <rahduke> terr_: I'm not sure wat you mean
[01:07] <Chaorain> tritium, do they?
[01:07] <rww> MIrrorIMage: You're using IRC right now.
[01:07] <freazer> Flannel: Chaorain is using ultamite not Ultimtae
[01:07] <tritium> Chaorain: I don't know.  We don't support it here.
[01:07] <MIrrorIMage> rww: doh!
[01:07] <terr_> rahduke: well - you want to confirm at least the ground station is functioning properly... like put two computers side by side beside the grpound station and see if they both display the same pattern
[01:08] <terr_> rahduke: it looks like an intermittant and its hard to fix something that works
[01:08] <Chaorain> freazer, Oops typo
[01:08] <rahduke> terr_: this isnt a wireless issues, this is happening to a wired computer
[01:08] <MIrrorIMage> rww: so where do I enter the command line to register my nickname?
[01:08] <rahduke> directly to router
[01:08] <terr_> rahduke: what does ifconfig say ?
[01:09] <terr_> rahduke: both when up and when down?
[01:09] <rww> MIrrorIMage: You can just type it in the same place you're typing messages. If nick registration, type "/join #freenode" (without the quotes) and press Enter. That'll join you to the server help channel.
[01:09] <freazer> terr_: you didn't read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060511 - he posts his ifconfig
[01:09] <rahduke> terr_: http://pastebin.com/m381540f2
[01:09] <jero_> how is it possible that loging in with gdm is not an issue, including i get full 3d acceleration with compiz working once in, yet logging back to gdm fails with a black screen?
[01:09] <rahduke> wooops
[01:09] <rahduke> terr_: http://pastebin.com/m1d155903 sorry bout that
[01:10] <rahduke> terr_: haven't tried ifconfig when down
[01:10] <terr_> rahduke: try when down too
[01:11] <Brando753> hey how do you connect to a remote computer?
[01:11] <jero_> otherwise asked, what exactly changes when i try to get into gdm _after_ the login, and how can i recover it to a state similar to login in where gdm works properly?
[01:11] <Davedan1> I'm trying to install virtualbox on ubuntu 8.10
[01:11] <Davedan1> what is the difference between virtualbox-ose and vboxgtk
[01:11] <jero_> davedan - it works, but 8.04 is faster in vbox
[01:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all. I installed 8.10 on my Aspire One and it kicked BUTT, until I hooked up another monitor, then I lost my 3D (and Compiz as a result) . how can I hit xorg up for the old settings? (I'm good with cli so that's best if it helps).
[01:12] <rahduke> terr_:  anytips till then? i found replacement drivers for LAN but dont have a clue how to install them
[01:12] <Davedan1> jero_: I don't care about speed. just want to run xp in ubuntu for some tests
[01:12] <terr_> rahduke: do you have any other machines on that lan?
[01:12] <Davedan1> jero_: do I need the ose package?
[01:12] <bigbucks> hi
[01:12] <rww> Davedan1: the user interface that comes with Virtualbox is written using KDE's graphics libraries. vboxgtk is a replacement UI written using GNOME's libraries. Just get virtualbox-ose :)
[01:13] <Chaorain> Is there a way to list irc channels?
[01:13] <rahduke> terr_: not besides an xbox
[01:13] <majnoon> /list
[01:13] <Chaorain> ty
[01:13] <rahduke> others are wireless and work flawlessly
[01:13] <jero_> davedan - oops  i misread, i thought vbox as a guest in windows. thats what i do
[01:13] <bigbucks> Has anyone here ever used Virtual PC with Ubuntu on Vista Home Premium?
[01:13] <Davedan1>  rww: ok. I'm overwhlmed when there are too many options :)
[01:14] <bigbucks> I guess noone
[01:14] <terr_> rahduke: You should get another machine.  Do you have any old critter you can press into service?  I have several in my garage which are givaways.  I'm in Calgary
[01:14] <NineTeen67Comet> to re-do xorg's settings is it xorg-config or something like that? What does it run when you initially install Ubuntu?
[01:14] <jero_> bigbucks - no but i use virtualbox in windows7 32bit as a host with 8.04 ubuntu as a guest. works very nice on fast duo2core cpus
[01:14] <terr_> rahduke: your ifconfig looks normal
[01:14] <rww> bigbucks: Ubuntu isn't supported on Virtual PC, and is apparently a pain to get working. You could use VirtualBox instead; it's free software, and better than VPC.
[01:14] <rahduke> terr_: I've tried several NIC cards, but i've canabalized all my old machines over the yrs
[01:15] <terr_> rahduke: call a friend.  I think you will need another machine.  At this point you don't know if the issue is downstream or upstream of the router
[01:15] <rww> bigbucks: although Wikipedia says that, for VPC, "Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) must be installed in SafeMode, but does not require any other changes."
[01:15] <miller_> rahduke, you have access to your router, like administration?
[01:15] <rahduke> miller_: yes
[01:15] <terr_> rahduke: it could be your upstream is breaking the connections
[01:15] <rahduke> miller_: I've replaced this router 2 times
[01:16] <Baatti> hey guys, I'm really frustrated here...
[01:16] <Unguided> hello does anyone know if u can watch a dvd while using the mythbuntu live dvd and 2 dvd drives
[01:16] <jero_> there is just two important things with vbox after you install ubuntu as a guest on it. asap install the guest additions to get a smooth mouse pointer and automatically adjusting resolutions, and learn to mount -t vboxsf <myshare> /media/<mount_directory>
[01:16] <miller_> rahduke, are you sure you're not doubling up on the same ip address with different devices?  192.168.1.5 sounds like a static address
[01:16] <bigbucks> So, dont use Virtual PC?
[01:16] <rahduke> terr_: the problem is so sporatic Its very difficult to replicate, it will work fine for 2 or 3 days then loses connections 5x or more in 1 day
[01:16] <owner_> how to solve the graphical glitches using nvidia 177?
[01:17] <terr_> rahduke: when its working do a traceroute to the server in question and when down try traceroute again... and here is where another machine would really help isolate things.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> Baatti: well, if you don't state the prob, we can't help
[01:17] <Baatti> I just finished installing Diablo 2 using wine... its supposed to work... anyway, I have to use the 'Play Disc' in order to play it, but it won't recognize my 'CD-ROM'
[01:17] <rww> bigbucks: I'd strongly recommend downloading Virtualbox and using it instead, since it's free and better than VPC. Using VPC should be possible, but may be more difficult.
[01:17] <terr_> rahduke:  that sounds to me like an upstream issue.
[01:17] <jero_> bigbucks - read what i said and try virtualbox. its tremendously good. the mount directory will be where you transfer files between host and guest
[01:17] <sachael> does anyone know of a nice little program that is a todo list with focus on software development?
[01:17] <rahduke> terr_: how to traceroute?
[01:17] <wexell32> hey I need a little help here plz. firewall what's better gufw vs firestarter plz ... i'm a noob
[01:17] <bigbucks> does it work the same as Virtual PC?
[01:17] <MoTec> bigbucks: just got here, what's the problem with virtual pc?
[01:17] <rahduke> miller_: dumb question how do i tell what my own IP is?
[01:17] <MoTec> can't boot?
[01:18] <rww> wexell32: gufw. firestarter is a little buggy on newer versions of Ubuntu.
[01:18] <Baatti> wexell32 gufw isn't a firewall, its just a GUI to help you set up your firewall (firestarter)
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> Baatti: that might be a question better suited for #winehq
[01:18] <b3z3rk3r> rahduke, type into google: what is my ip
[01:18] <terr_> rahduke: I've had issues like this before when trying to bootleg data out of Trinidad.... no way FTP would handle it.  FTP is suppose to mind you but it was not robust enough
[01:18] <rww> Baatti: gufw is a frontend for ufw, not firestarter.
[01:18] <nex2nutin> evening all
[01:18] <NineTeen67Comet> rahduke: ifconfig
[01:18] <bigbucks> Does it work on Vista Home Premium
[01:18] <jero_> bigbuck - it works as a computer in a computer. you just install your OS from a CD iso you download. not sure how vpc works
[01:18] <Baatti> hrm, my bad
[01:18] <terr_> rahduke: yet small files were no issue at all.
[01:18] <rahduke> b3z3rk3r: my IP behind my router
[01:18] <Baatti> IndyGunFreak, thanks
[01:18] <jero_> bigbucks - yes it works in all windows as host
[01:18] <wexell32> rww thank tou!
[01:18] <wexell32> you*
[01:19] <rww> wexell32: you're welcome :)
[01:19] <rahduke> terr_: its weird cuz its not just streaming vid, its gone out today 3 times just browsing and chatting
[01:19] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: ok, i am changing my version, switch and NIC report 1Gb (had a nother look at the board manual and i was lookign at the wrong inoput on the switch)
[01:19] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: i think i am smarter now though
[01:19] <b3z3rk3r> rahduke, oh.. haha. sry. umm, for that you will need to use the terminal.. something like ifconfig
[01:19] <terr_> rahduke: it could be your modem is losing its connection - likely in fact.
[01:19] <jero> With the standard Ubuntu install on this nc8000 laptop with a pentium m and ati 9600, i get 3d acceleration to work properly in openarena for example, but suspend & compiz doesnt work. Installing the proprietary drivers, 3d acceleration works & compiz works & suspend works, but loging out does not work(screen goes blank and system becomes unresponsive).
[01:19] <bigbucks> Well, on a video on youtube, comments said they tried it and had to rewhatever their computer
[01:19] <rahduke> b3z3rk3r: thanks
[01:19] <NineTeen67Comet> bigbucks: I've ran XP, Vista and Windows 7 in VirtualBox (not the OSE version though) and they work "acceptably" .. http://www.openlug.com/?p=214
[01:19] <terr_> rahduke: I presume you are DSL?
[01:20] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: i tried linux-server 2.6.27-7, 2.6.27-9 and 2.6.27-11, and all give me the same 2-3 MB/s
[01:20] <rahduke> terr_: yes i've replaced it twice its a router/modem combo from verizon FIOS, im switching back to cablevision in 2 wks we we'll see if that helps
[01:20] <MoTec> i use virtual pc on a pretty beefy windows server to host a few different os's at once
[01:20] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: now i am trying linux-genric
[01:20] <MoTec> my whole testing network, hehe.
[01:20] <rahduke> terr_: its not DSL tho its "fiber"
[01:20] <owner_> how do I remove graphics glitches on bootup?
[01:20] <terr_> rahduke: how to you fix it when it happens?
[01:20] <rahduke> terr_: it just comes back
[01:20] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: are you still here?
[01:20] <nex2nutin> can anyone help figure out why i can't get my external drive to read when i plug it in?
[01:20] <terr_> rahduke: lucky bagguer.  NEXT
[01:20]  * moonwatcher wonders if he is talkign to himself
[01:20] <terr_> <--- jealous
[01:21] <rahduke> terr_: it just resets,
[01:21] <bigbucks> would I still have to partion?
[01:21] <owner_> anyone know how to solve graphical artifacts or am I just stuck with them
[01:21] <rahduke> terr_: FiOS isnt wat its cracked up to be, max 3mb down 2 mb up in realwords
[01:21] <rahduke> world
[01:21] <rww> bigbucks: with Virtualbox? no
[01:21] <bigbucks> ok
[01:21] <terr_> rahduke: ok - then the modem can be losing its training to the Dslam adn when same happens it times out and resets adn by then other things have timed out and reset
[01:21] <bigbucks> thats what I wanted
[01:22] <terr_> rahduke: if so this might be happening randomly all the time and you only see it during heavy traffic or long transmissions
[01:22] <rahduke> terr_: Verizon admits no fault despite my arguments with them
[01:22] <rahduke> terr_: just keeps sending me new routers
[01:22] <terr_> rahduke: they will lie.  Standard practice
[01:23] <terr_> rahduke: sure - send a bandaid and hope for the best
[01:23] <rahduke> terr_: i guess I'll deal with it till feb 25th when i switch to cablevsion and get my new linksysrouter adn run WWRT
[01:23] <MoTec> bigbucks if you can't boot ubuntu, use the -i8042.noloop
[01:23] <e1kP9tsfA> is it hard to install ubuntu on Virtualbox?
[01:24] <terr_> I'm still looking for suggestions on a small low power box for a web server
[01:24] <rahduke> e1kP9tsfA: not at all
[01:24] <bigbucks> lol
[01:24] <jero> elk - nope, its easier than install it normaly
[01:24] <MoTec> terr_ fit-pc v1.0 highly discounted currenty
[01:24] <terr_> rahduke: if you had another machine you could confirm the modem - uplink is the issue
[01:24] <MoTec> terr_ under 5w power.. .you'll not find lower :)
[01:24] <terr_> MoTec: not bad
[01:24] <cricri> trying to install ubuntu and install cant find the iso image
[01:24] <terr_> MoTec: used equipment is fine too.
[01:24] <rahduke> terr_: I think i'm guna try that I can probably hobble something together, another option is to boot into windows for a while
[01:24] <bigbucks> IDK why I even wanna try to dual boot on a celeron with Vista
[01:25] <MoTec> it'd have to be pretty light duty.. i use 'em for firewalls
[01:25] <jero> bigbucks - use 8.04 for virtualbox. it is supported till 2011 and runs faster
[01:25] <MoTec> but they are currently functioning as routers for over 75 concurrent clients.
[01:25] <cricri> how can i point to it, by default it look in /dev/sdaX and sdbX my iso is on usb
[01:25] <terr_> MoTit is light duty... even a 486 will fill any uplink I can afford
[01:25] <bigbucks> I am installing virtualbox
[01:26] <MoTec> terr_: then definately give the fit-pc 1.0 a look.  fit-pc.com
[01:26] <bigbucks> I finally got my XBox today too =)
[01:26] <MoTec> they just dropped the price from $295 to $295 so I bought several :)
[01:26] <johninlex> hello all
[01:26] <rahduke> bigbucks: 360 or original
[01:26] <bigbucks> 360
[01:26] <jero> motec - nice pricedrop there
[01:26] <bigbucks> $300 at GameStop
[01:26] <vinicius> eu
[01:26] <MoTec> jero: not insignificant, for sure.
[01:27] <terr_> MoTec: that isn't much of a percentage decline
[01:27] <bigbucks> and I got COD4 as well as Midnight Club LA
[01:27] <rahduke> terr_: thanks for your help, im gunna boot to windows and put together a box to try out your option
[01:27] <MoTec> oh, whoops
[01:27] <MoTec> $195 from $295
[01:27] <MoTec> sorry :)
[01:27] <bigbucks> I got teh 60 gig
[01:27] <terr_> MoTec: ya sure - you were being a clown I think
[01:27] <MoTec> no, just intoxicated :)
[01:27] <johninlex> can you install on a drive while running ubuntu ie I want to install Puppy on an extra drive and then put that drive in other computer that is having problems
[01:27] <rahduke> bigbucks: im playin afro samurai right now its actualy pretty decent
[01:28] <terr_> rahduke: ask around - you should always have a trouble shooting machine available... set one up with friends
[01:28] <rahduke> bigbucks: you should def mod the system tho
[01:28] <bigbucks> an Virtualbox and Ubuntu running crash my computer?
[01:28] <bigbucks> def bod?
[01:28] <bigbucks> mod
[01:28] <rahduke> bigbucks: mod
[01:28] <rahduke> bigbucks: play games for free!
[01:29] <cricri> the ubuntu install cannot locate the iso file which is in root of my usb device i try to install from
[01:29] <rww> !ot | rahduke, bigbucks
[01:29] <Brando753> hey how do u install a .bin file?
[01:29] <tritium> rahduke: please don't discuss that here
[01:29] <sloof3> I installed gparted but it's having some unknown problem formatting the xfs partition.  What course of action do I have?
[01:29] <sloof3> http://pastebin.com/m1f804605
[01:29] <rahduke> Brando753: .sh biname.bin
[01:29] <terr_> MoTec: have a peak at the HP netbook 1000MI  ($387 starting price I hear)
[01:29] <bigbucks> WTF
[01:30] <Brando753> rahduke in a terminal right?
[01:30] <_VIM_> !ohmy | bigbucks
[01:30] <MoTec> terr_: i love my dell mini 9 :)
[01:30] <terr_> MoTec: that little fit-PC sure looks interesting.  I wonder about a solid state HDD?
[01:30] <rahduke> Brando753: yes navigate to the folder with the .bin
[01:30] <rahduke> and do the command i wrote
[01:30] <cricri> i cant get through the install of ubuntu 8.10
[01:30] <MoTec> terr_: yeah, it'll support a ssd or a compact flash via adapter
[01:30] <bigbucks> I got a massive deep papaer cut, without totching papet
[01:30] <MoTec> needs to be ide, tho.
[01:30] <Luxmux> HI all.. is there a jabber-client for terminal-use?!?
[01:30] <marge> I've switched from regular ubnutn 8.04 to kubuntu-desktop and works ok, but kdm does not start by itself.  What config file do I edit to have kdm start on boot up?
[01:31] <Flannel> bigbucks: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support related issues, thanks.
[01:31] <terr_> MoTec: I want something relaiable of course - I expect these are... also how many NICS if I want to use as a firewall?
[01:31] <Flannel> Luxmux: centerim
[01:31] <MoTec> terr_: i've been using a couple as routers/firewalls for a couple years
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: i'm just not a huge fan of SSD yet.. i think its a great idea, and eventually, it will be awesome.. just hasn't quite convinced me yet.... iv'e got an AAO w/ a 160gig Sata drive, and i love it
[01:31] <MoTec> terr_: I use pfsense on them.. it's insanely great :)
[01:31] <Flannel> Luxmux: Theres also finch (based on libpurple) and some people like bitlbee, but thats just a [protocol] <-> IRC gateway
[01:31] <marge> How can I have kdm start automatically during bootup?
[01:31] <terr_> MoTec: not bad - the webservers I currently ahve are very reliable... and they help heat my house so I can save on my gas bill
[01:31] <MoTec> IndyGunFreak: yeah, i use a standard drive on mine.. but my mini 9 has a small ssd
[01:31] <marge> Anyone know?
[01:31] <Luxmux> Flannel, thx
[01:31] <Brando753> PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:32] <marge> What could be amis here?
[01:32] <rww> marge: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm", I think
[01:32] <terr_> MoTec: I'm going to cehck out OpenBSD for the firewalling
[01:32] <cricri> friend
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: great idea, and i think eventually, its gonna be the way things are.. but i don't the the technology is quite there yet
[01:32] <MoTec> terr_: that's what pfsense is based on... check it out for sure.
[01:32] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> Question: Ubuntu Desktop ATI 9600 Mobility driver for games such as world of warcraft?
[01:32] <Brando753> help i got "PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[01:32] <bigbucks> Answer: IDK
[01:33] <MoTec> it's web gui is awesome.. and it is very powerfull
[01:33] <Flannel> Brando753: What command were you running?
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: plus, i got it for $300 on fleabay, it was about a month old.. so that makes it even better.. ;)
[01:33] <jero> 2xtreme works perfectly fine, except some issues with logging out into gdm here.
[01:33] <Brando753> sudo sh PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[01:33] <marge>  rww: Thanks I will reboot and see if it takes effect.
[01:33] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> jero, do you use the fglrx?
[01:33] <nex2nutin> can anyone tell me how to mount an iso so i can run the programs?
[01:33] <Cpudan80> hello all
[01:34] <Flannel> Brando753: You don't usually use sh to run a bin file, just +x it and ./whatever.bin
[01:34] <Cpudan80> I enabled compiz -- but now full screen VLC sucks (frame rate bad) any ideas?
[01:34] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> Jero, or just the standard driver
[01:34] <jero> 2Xtreme - yep, look here ->
[01:34] <jero> With the standard Ubuntu install on this nc8000 laptop with a pentium m and ati 9600, i get 3d acceleration to work properly in openarena for example, but suspend & compiz doesnt work. Installing the proprietary drivers, 3d acceleration works & compiz works & suspend works, but loging out does not work(screen goes blank and system becomes unresponsive).
[01:34] <nex2nutin> hi cpudan
[01:34] <Safe> If i have installed within windows, and i uninstall, will it replace the original master boot record?
[01:34] <bigbucks> VirtualBox does not wanna install
[01:34] <MoTec> bigbucks: what problem did you have with virtual pc?
[01:34] <bigbucks> none
[01:34] <jero> 2Xtreme - 8.04 requires you just one click to enable the proprietary driver to get full fglrx 3d acceleration.
[01:35] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> jero, lol great to get compiz working I install the fglrx driver, i have 8.10
[01:35] <sachael> I'm looking for a program that is a todo list with focus on software development?
[01:35] <Brando753> so what should i enter if my bin file is PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[01:35] <jrib> bigbucks: it's impossible for us to help you if you aren't specific and don't provide details
[01:35] <terr_> http://cgi.ebay.com/Keep-Fit-PC-USB-Non-Slip-Dance-Pad-Mat-+-Song-Game_W0QQitemZ180323984954QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090128?IMSfp=TL090128173005r17502
[01:35] <terr_> what sort of crap is that?
[01:35] <bigbucks> I say something on youtube, and someone said they tried it and it crashed their PC
[01:35] <Flannel> terr_: Please, take offtopic (non-support) related discussions elsewhere.  Such as #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <failers> i got "card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]" and no sound running 9.04 kubuntu but should be same prob in ubuntu so asking here also
[01:35] <bigbucks> they had to re-whatever
[01:35] <MoTec> bigbucks: i've been running it for a long time... i'm on it now :)
[01:35] <jrib> Brando753: chmod +x FILE   followed by ./FILE
[01:35] <jero> 2Xtreme good luck with 8.10. never worked for me
[01:35] <bigbucks> what systam?
[01:35] <Brando753> ?
[01:36] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> jero, i was hoping for something different lol
[01:36] <MoTec> bigbucks: the only problem i had is booting it in the first place... had to add 8042.noloop switch
[01:36] <Brando753> Jrib format ti with this bin PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[01:36] <jrib> Brando753: are you kidding?
[01:36] <Brando753> i didnt get how i was suposed to format that
[01:36] <jrib> Brando753: everywhere you see FILE, write the name of your file instead
[01:36] <MoTec> bigbucks: an intel mini-itx board..
[01:36] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> jero, the fglrx driver works but really really bad fps, it doesn't want to speed up any either. when i know it should run better atleast it does on an winxp system
[01:37] <bigbucks> I mean OS
[01:37] <MoTec> bigbucks: celeron 215
[01:37] <jrib> !away > rj_x|away
[01:37] <jero> 2Xtreme - then it is not working. the fglrx driver if working gives the best fps
[01:37] <binarymutant> anyone know a way to get xrandr to rotate a screen automatically?
[01:38] <jero> 2Xtreme - if you enter glxgears into the terminal you should get around 3000fps
[01:38] <amer> hi guys
[01:38] <jero> then you know it is working
[01:38] <MoTec> it's a bare install of ubuntu server.. i only gave it 256mb of ram because i'm stingy.
[01:38] <amer> how save is to run win in ubutnu
[01:38] <e1kP9tsfA> ok...
[01:39] <bigbucks> when I turned virtualnox on, i lost connection
[01:39] <MoTec> it resets your network cards
[01:39] <MoTec> that's why i use virtual pc.. it messes with windows hosts the least, heh.
[01:41] <jero> 2Xtreme - i suggest downloading openarena for testing if your 3d acceleration is working properly. Not only it is a great free game, but it also is a good way to check for 3d acceleration if it really is enabled
[01:41] <terr_> http://cgi.ebay.com/INTEL-ATOM-DUAL-CORE-MINI-PC-IMAC-OSX-86-HACKINTOSH_W0QQitemZ270323719644QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item270323719644&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1309%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
[01:42] <sloof3> I installed gparted but it's having some unknown problem formatting the xfs partition.
[01:42] <sloof3> http://pastebin.com/m1f804605
[01:42] <terr_> what is a "HACKINTOSH" and will ubuntu run on it?
[01:43] <_VIM_> That's way offtopic
[01:43] <Flannel> terr_: Ubuntu will, yes.
[01:43] <bigbucks> ok
[01:43] <bigbucks> so to start a new comp I push new?
[01:43] <jero> terr_ it is osX hacked to run on a normal pc, and yes, ubuntu will run in a virtualbox on it
[01:43] <terr_> Flannel: what do they mean by "hackintosh"?
[01:43] <bigbucks> isnt Linus = Ubuntu?
[01:44] <binarymutant> bigbucks, no
[01:44] <terr_> jero: now that is interesting... a virtual box... what supports this.
[01:44] <tritium> bigbucks: no, Linus is the man that created Linux
[01:44] <terr_> jero: I have not been following virtual... however I did buy vmware a while back
[01:44] <bigbucks> it was a typo
[01:45] <jero> terr_ yo dawg, its a pc in a pc, so you can use your pc while you use your pc
[01:45] <MoTec> terr_: you can run virtual box on many os's including windows and ubuntu
[01:45] <terr_> jero: I know what it is - I was running NT under Linux.
[01:45] <MoTec> virtualbox is just sun's cool name, heh
[01:45] <terr_> I'm wondering what the state of the technolgy is now.  My VMWARE is quite old
[01:45] <MoTec> well, they bought it
[01:45] <jero> terr_ check out www.virtualbox.org and test it. its really fun stuff, and is free
[01:45] <terr_> how are they doing it?
[01:46] <terr_> jero many thanx!
[01:46] <bigbucks> Hey
[01:46] <jero> terr_ - vmware is nice too, but i prefer vbox
[01:46] <MoTec> it's similar to vmware
[01:46] <prometheus77> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1055610 can someone help ? i am nick
[01:46] <tritium> !kvm | terr_
[01:46] <bigbucks> How do I put Ubuntu on it WITHOUT a cd?
[01:46] <MoTec> i prefer virtual pc, as long as you have to have a windows host :)
[01:46] <MoTec> bigbucks: use an iso file
[01:46] <gsker> virtualbox is in ubuntu's packages btw. aptitude install vritualbox
[01:46] <binarymutant> bigbucks, pxe or net install
[01:46] <terr_> tritium: is this part of KDE?
[01:47] <tritium> terr_: no.
[01:47] <_VIM_> gsker: i think it's virtualbox-ose
[01:47] <tritium> _VIM_: correct
[01:47] <MoTec> bigbucks: if you're talking about making virtualbox boot ubuntu without a real cd you can tell it to use the ubuntu .iso as a virtual cd in the virtual machine
[01:47] <terr_> tritium: I'm currently on Debian and its old.  I'm going to build a new install shortly and I'm going to use Ubuntu - virtual is something I'm very interested in.
[01:47] <jero> Motec being bound to one host is exactly what you dont want with such virtual machines. One of the major strengths of this is to be able and carry your guest OS over to any other pc/OS
[01:47] <KoolD> hey all,....should't there be a manpage for fread/fwrite.... how do i download them
[01:48] <tritium> terr_: in order to use KVM, your hardware needs to support virtualization.  That URL tells you how to determine whether or not your hardware does.
[01:48] <adubz> does anyone here use xmms
[01:48] <adubz> the playlist editor will not minimize with the main window
[01:48] <gsker> my point was that sending people to the origin site makes them think that they have to insall from there. A linux newbie friend got into a little pickle recently in that regard with openoffice (virtualbox is a virtual package -- virtualbox-ose is one of the package in it)
[01:48] <terr_> tritium: this is starting to look like we are moving from the stone ages.
[01:48] <MoTec> jero: well true.. but with virtual pc you can run on any windows machine, basically, because virtual server machine files work on virtual pc installs
[01:48] <tritium> adubz: not for years
[01:48] <cricri> in the 'ubuntu installer main menu' i dont know what to choose to point to the iso image with the installer components
[01:49] <tritium> terr_: ?
[01:49] <terr_> vmware worked but I sure didn't like it from an admin standpoint.
[01:49] <terr_> tritium: IBM did it right a long time ago.
[01:49] <entropy8> Would anyone be able to help me with a wpa_supplicant error?
[01:49] <MoTec> jero: was mostly just saying.. if my virtual machine host is a windows machine i use virtual pc.. if not, i use virtualbox on ubuntu server :)
[01:49] <cricri> i have never seen those options, i have not installed ubuntu for 3 yrs
[01:50] <chalcedony> if i want to backup my system to upgrade it, how can i find the paths?
[01:50] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: echo $PATH, from a terminal
[01:51] <jero> which script is being called by gdm when i log out?
[01:51] <terr_> Now this looks very interesting... I wonder if this can work with multiseat X?
[01:51] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder:  ~$  echo $PATH
[01:51] <chalcedony> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[01:51] <chalcedony> ~$
[01:51] <gsker> btw vmware files work on virtualbox too.
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: Yup, that is the PATH environment variable
[01:52] <MoTec> really? that's sweet
[01:52] <cricri> the installer ask for an iso image which i have but i dont know how to point to it
[01:52] <jero> gsker - hm, good to know
[01:52] <terr_> gsker: I'm trying to remember the name of hte UK virtualization - I think it was headed in Cambridge
[01:52] <gsker> doesn't ring a bell for me.
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: Wait, were you asking for the path environment variable, or what paths to tar for the backup?
[01:52] <cricri> it looks on the hard drive for an image but my image is on a usb memory stick\
[01:53] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder: i feel dumb.. what do i need?
[01:53] <WebcamWonder> !backup | chalcedony
[01:53] <terr_> what I would _like_ is to be able to build a virtual machine that basically runs in a microkernel and test it and if I like it then move everyting into it and retire the old virtual image
[01:53] <gsker> chalcedony: alt-ctrl-f1 (or f2 or something) and see if you can mount the usb stick.
[01:53] <cricri> should i nspecify it in the boot options
[01:54] <nellmathew> is  there a command to check if i have 3d acceleration enabled?
[01:54] <gsker> nellmathew: glxinfo | grep direct
[01:54] <chalcedony> gsker: my stuff won't all fit on a usb stick.. it will have to go to another system on the lan
[01:54] <cricri> my boot was: '/vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.gz all_generic_ide'
[01:54] <nellmathew> thanks gsker
[01:54] <gsker> oops. Wrong person -- that was for cricri
[01:54] <failers> anyone got good knowledge of kubuntu/ubuntu and can help me with my sound card / sound issue please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6696415
[01:55] <WebcamWonder> failers: #ubuntu+1 for 9.04
[01:55]  * gsker upgrades ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.10 on a sony vaio picture book with 110meg of memory.
[01:55] <chalcedony> !sbackup
[01:55] <Safe> If you mess up your MBR, is there a way to make grub list XP?
[01:56] <kshadow> What is the name of the latest gtk+ package?
[01:56] <kshadow> (So I can apt-get it)
[01:56] <RulerOf> Anyone know if it's possible for the "filename" option in dhcpd to have any type of dynamic data in it?  Specifically the dhcp client's mac address?
[01:56] <WebcamWonder> !find gtk
[01:56] <terr_> question regarding a virtual machine:  Now I kinda doubt this is possible.  Set up a host OS and install a guest.  At some point tell the guest to become the host and the host to become the guest.  These _could_ be peer os's and would need to cooperate in transfering control of the hardware... means we need to have two VM aware kernels  Of course on a given kernel we _should_ be able to xfer the desktop managers and if so then run more t
[01:57] <terr_> if we can do this then we can upgrade from version to version w/o a reboot
[01:57] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Any specific reason why you don't want ubuntu-desktop?
[01:57] <adubz> does anyone here use xmms
[01:57] <terr_> I know IBM can do this on their mainframes
[01:58] <adubz> im trying to figure out why the playlist editor will not shrink with the main window when i minimize
[01:58] <kshadow> WebcamWonder: I want to install the latest version of pidgin, so I need the latest gtk.
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Are you getting a deb from somewhere or compiling?
[01:58] <jero> terr_ - maybe XEN will be able to do this some day, if the big players don't infiltrate it
[01:58] <kshadow> Compiling.
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Then you need the dev headers, not the gtk packages :)
[01:59] <terr_> jero: that's the system I was looking for - forgot the name.
[01:59] <WebcamWonder> !info libgtk-dev
[01:59] <terr_> jero: with a micro kernel it should be possible as well
[01:59] <jero> terr_ you need a cpu with VT - XEN is just a thin layer between your hardware and your virtual OS. So yes, in theory it is possible to get this done, and i think it was already done. Then again i am a tinfoiler
[01:59] <kshadow> Would itbe libgtk+2.0-dev?
[01:59] <unixdawg> ok having a issue
[02:00] <unixdawg> need input
[02:00] <terr_> jero?  tinfoiler?
[02:00] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Umm, just do a, sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin, that should grab all the ~15 libraries required by pidgin
[02:00] <unixdawg> I have 2 headsets 1 that plugs in to the standard autio jacks and one that is usb
[02:00] <kshadow> WebcamWonder: Perfect, thanks.
[02:00] <jero> terr_ cospirancy theoriest, tinfoil hat, etc.
[02:00] <terr_> jero on my webservers virtual sounds very interesting
[02:00] <kshadow> WebcamWonder: Maybe you can help me with another question.
[02:00] <unixdawg> I can hear audio on both when they are enabled
[02:00] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Sure
[02:00] <terr_> jero ty!
[02:01] <kshadow> WebcamWonder: If I was to install a new version of something from source, should I remove the older version that was installed via the package manager first?
[02:01] <jero> terr_ - i mean me, not you
[02:01] <terr_> jero: I've needed it before on my desktop but not recently.  As I said I bought vmware a few years back...
[02:01] <kshadow> I messed up my gentoo system by installing some stuff via portage, and some stuff via manual compiling.
[02:01] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Definitely
[02:01] <unixdawg> but skype/xten/zoiper I can hear the audio on the headset but none of the apps are getting autio from the dsl input
[02:01] <terr_> jero I know!
[02:01] <gsker> i thought xmms was gone, but I see it's still here.  Was there a fork?
[02:01] <KyleK> kshadow: if you can remove just the package you're upgrading go for it
[02:01] <kshadow> Thanks.
[02:02] <kshadow> K.
[02:02] <unixdawg> I had not heard xmms had dies
[02:02] <unixdawg> died
[02:02] <terr_> jero: maybe on my next machine I will set up a VM capability adn wine as well.  I presume this is all done in ubuntu...
[02:02] <unixdawg> why would they killit
[02:02] <kshadow> Also, know if the atheros problems with intrepid have been sorted out?
[02:02] <terr_> jero in debian I need to do it
[02:02] <cricri> i mounted my usb key in /mnt how do i go back to the intstall
[02:03] <terr_> cricri: ??? rephrase the question please
[02:03] <terr_> cricri: I would think umount it and remount where you want it
[02:03] <terr_> cricri: I've never done this however for a USB key
[02:04] <cphillips> any idea how to improve a wireless connection? Ive disabled ipv6 and run ndiswrapper
[02:04] <cricri> i mounted my usb in /mnt/usb but i dont know how to tell the ubuntu installation to look in it
[02:04] <cphillips> but its still crap
[02:04] <gsker> It must have a fork that looks a lot like the original. Audacious, maybe?
[02:04] <gsker> kshadow: atheros is stil tricky in intrepid.
[02:04] <unixdawg> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc   ) works... no
[02:04] <unixdawg> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[02:04] <gsker> I just install madwifi-hal every time I do a kernal update
[02:04] <gsker> sucks
[02:05] <cricri> the ubuntu installer cannot find the iso image
[02:05] <JabberBox> hey guys, having some trouble with LIRC. anyone willing to help a total noob (me :p) out with this?
[02:05] <kshadow> gsker: Would that work for madwifi-ng?
[02:05] <unixdawg> any idea on this issue
[02:05] <gsker> cricri alt-ctrl-f1 or f2 or f3 or whever that is sitting.
[02:05] <WebcamWonder> unixdawg: You need to get build-essential, to get gcc and g++
[02:06] <cricri> gsker yes i managed to go back to install but the install still wont find the iso
[02:06] <terr_> cricri: does the ubuntu installer go through a boot?
[02:06] <jrib> unixdawg: what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:06] <cricri> it boots and then looks for iso
[02:06] <unixdawg> building kssh
[02:06] <sgorf> I think I'm being affected by a regression in hal. Is there an easy way to get hold of old binary packages so that I can try an older version?
[02:06] <unixdawg> right now
[02:06] <cricri> i manually give it the boot options
[02:06] <terr_> cricri: it will lose everything iduring the reboot of course
[02:07] <terr_> cricri: I presume you realise this?
[02:07] <betterhands> i've been using 8.10 for a few weeks now and just wanted folks to know how amazed i am out how well things have gone.  my hard drive dying was a blessing in disguise as it was the cause for me to install ubuntu in the first place, now i wouldn't consider another OS.  helpful folks on the forums and in here have been a big reason for my positive experience so far and i just wanted to say thanks.
[02:07] <jrib> unixdawg: kssh is in the repositories, use synaptic or some other APT frontend
[02:07] <cricri> lose what? i dont have anything, my goal is to install ubuntu
[02:07] <JabberBox> basically I just need LIRC to receive my Phillips USB IR and recognize my Harmony 550 programed with device xbox360.
[02:07] <terr_> cricri: yes - but if the machine reboots between when you mount the USB key and run the installer then the mount is lost
[02:07] <chalcedony> betterhands: YAY !! glad you like it :)
[02:07] <sgorf> hal has suddenly stopped detecting my keyboard, mouse, network cards and I don't know what else
[02:08] <sgorf> So nothing works
[02:08] <CaptainMorgan> betterhands, cheers
[02:08] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder: my other coaching person told me to use mc to find the paths. HOW?
[02:08] <UndertakerX2> what are hgfx shares?
[02:08] <cricri> i mount it within the installer using the simple ash provided
[02:08] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: There is an enviromment variable named PATH. Are you asking about that env variable? Or what paths to backup?
[02:09] <terr_> cricri: and no reboot after that?
[02:09] <cricri> i did not reboot after mounting
[02:09] <betterhands> thanks--it's cool to see how great community based stuff can be.
[02:09] <cricri> i did alt-f2 alt-f1 to go to ash
[02:09] <terr_> cricri: ok - we are past that hurdle then.  I was worrying about you needing to make a new initrd with drivers and so forth
[02:09] <gsker> cricri you shoud be able to say that the iso is at /mnt/mystick/file.iso ...
[02:09] <cricri> from within the install
[02:09] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder:  "look around and see if you want files from any other path" i never use mc.. i've forgotten what little i did in it ever.
[02:09] <terr_> gsker: exactly
[02:10] <JabberBox> anyone know a room for LIRC or similar?
[02:10] <kshadow> LIRC?
[02:10] <nitrousinacan> I'm having a problem with my "sudo apt-get update" readout. Can someone help me?
[02:10] <cricri> but where is this option gsker
[02:10] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: Yeah, that looks likes the folders you would want to backup. You can use any file browser to look for which folders to backup. MC just happens to be one of them. YOu can even use nautiluys
[02:10] <JabberBox> linux IR remote control
[02:10] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: pastebin it please
[02:10] <bigbucks> is there a tut I can follow to install ubuntu on VB
[02:10] <Matr|X> Do any one no how to open a executable file in Ubuntu? Or is there any code or tools out there what will do this job?
[02:10] <terr_> cricri: have ytou tried appending blah to the path?  You will need to use "source" if via a script or .blah
[02:10] <unixdawg> ok kssh on 4.2 is borked
[02:11] <unixdawg> Unknown option 'T'.
[02:11] <unixdawg> konsole: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[02:11] <WebcamWonder> Matr|X: Double click?
[02:11] <unixdawg> thats the error
[02:11] <Matr|X> nop
[02:11] <kshadow> Matr|X: You mean, like a windows executable file?
[02:11] <kshadow> Matr|X: chmod +x filename, make it executable.
[02:11] <kshadow> Then just ./filename to run it
[02:11] <cricri> the path in boot options?
[02:11] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: http://pastebin.com/m14e5f1fc
[02:11] <Matr|X> no this not the probelem
[02:11] <cricri> terr_
[02:11] <gsker> cricri : I'm not in the middle of one of those installs and can't think how that might work.
[02:12] <kshadow> Matr|X: Explain?
[02:12] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: lines 76-77.
[02:12] <unixdawg> so this sucks kssh being borked
[02:12] <unixdawg> grrrr
[02:12] <terr_> cricri: ??
[02:12] <cricri> is there a way to specify location in boot options? is this what you mean terr_
[02:12] <bigbucks> is there a tut on installing Ubuntu on VirtualBox?
[02:12] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: You don't have the key for medibuntu. Did you add that repo yourself?
[02:12] <julio> estoy en linea
[02:12] <Matr|X> like in windows i have file .exe  in ubntu i have another file not on exe but type executable % application/x-executable ,, i want to edit this file make some new change to make for me more jobs eny help
[02:12] <cricri> i never had that much trouble setting up
[02:12] <terr_> cricri: perhaps yes - the path in the boot options.  look at the paths the installer sees
[02:12] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Oh, wait. Scratch that
[02:13] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: Yes. I readded it, and I readded the pgp too.
[02:13] <Fezzler> what's the current version of Ubuntu?
[02:13] <kshadow> Matr|X: You mean you want to change the executable file?!
[02:13] <terr_> cricri: the installer is just a program and when it looks for stuff it will look in hard coded places - configured places and maybe on a path
[02:13] <tritium> Fezzler: 8.10, Intrepid Ibex
[02:13] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Hold up
[02:13] <kshadow> If you want to execute it, make it executable with `chmod +x filename`, and execute it with `./filename`
[02:14] <Matr|X> yes
[02:14] <jero> bigbucks - start a new machine,  set it up. after you are done with it, before you power it up, click on CDROM and browse to the ubuntu iso to bind it in. Now your machine will act like a real one having an ubuntu cdrom inside, once you power it up
[02:14] <terr_> cricri: you might also be able to cd to /mnt/blah and then run the installer
[02:14] <kshadow> Matr|X: If you have the source code, you can alter it, but like in windows, you cannot just edit a an executable file.
[02:14] <Fezzler> how do I tell which version is on my PC?
[02:14] <unixdawg> when did xmms die
[02:14] <terr_> cricri: whatever it is - its likely to be simple
[02:14] <unixdawg> its not in the repos
[02:14] <kshadow> unixdawg: Several years ago.
[02:15] <Matr|X> how i can make my own file:O like the one i have
[02:15] <unixdawg> what is the replacement
[02:15] <trent1> if i use the "create a usb startup disk" i will be able to boot from a usb drive right?
[02:15] <kshadow> unixdawg: Audacious.
[02:15] <tritium> unixdawg: it appears that xmms2 is in the repos
[02:15] <kshadow> Matr|X: I don't really know what you're saying.
[02:15] <kshadow> You can program one?
[02:15] <unixdawg> I thought xmms2 was a server app
[02:15] <dyf> hello.. i'm using fluxbox, is there a command line tool that can help set the brightness of my laptop screen?
[02:15] <Matr|X> yes
[02:15] <Matr|X> i mean this program
[02:15] <trent1> will i be able to install programs to this "portable ubuntu"
[02:15] <kshadow> Matr|X: Learn a programming language, like C++, then code it?
[02:16] <Matr|X> wht edito i use or wht program code i use
[02:16] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Pastebin your sources please
[02:16] <Matr|X> c ++ and i will code one for me like this one :O
[02:16] <kshadow> unixdawg: Audacious was the replacement, and it's quite nice.
[02:16] <edge> I had a deb package manually get installed, and when i went to remove it left something bc now when i do a apt-get update and upgrade it fails because it can't find the package, how do i remove it?
[02:16] <terr_> cricri: are you making headway?
[02:16] <tritium> kshadow: xmms2 is in the repos
[02:16] <Matr|X> i can learn code c++ in ubntu machine ?
[02:16] <kshadow> What are the repos?
[02:17] <tritium> kshadow: repositories
[02:17] <kshadow> Matr|X: Yes.
[02:17] <unixdawg> where in the repos is it
[02:17] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: http://pastebin.com/m2cc27d3d
[02:17] <tritium> !info xmms2 | unixdawg
[02:17] <terr_> Matr|X: hard to say - if you can learn C++ in any other machine then Ubuntu should be no issue
[02:17] <jero> trent1 - booting from a USB HDD is the same as booting from a normal HDD if your bios supports it. The problem you might encounter is getting a bootblock on your USB HDD. On some models it is not possible at all, except by pulling out the HDD and connecting it to the real controler, then placing it back into the usb case
[02:17] <unixdawg> ok
[02:17] <bigbucks> Can anyone talk to me on m5n and tell me to get ubuntu unning on vitualbox?
[02:17] <bigbucks> OMG!!!!
[02:18] <tritium> !patience | bigbucks
[02:18] <bigbucks> THATS NOT IT
[02:18] <terr_> jero: is this true of the flash USB sticks?
[02:18] <tritium> bigbucks: cut it out
[02:18] <cricri> ok  i had to umount it so that it couyld mount it and detect it
[02:18] <trent1> i was planing to use it on computers at school, i don't think our security is very tight so there shouldn't be a "boot block"
[02:18] <terr_> cricri: np
[02:19] <jero> terr_ - not sure if all usb sticks allow you to place a bootblock on them. In doubt i would check for success stories on certain usb sticks
[02:19] <bigbucks> every time I turn on virtualbox it opens a thing wanting me to give it permission and I cannot switch windows now
[02:19] <unixdawg> I dont find xmms2 in the repops
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Either of the 2 ppa repos don't have the keys added. Could you try adding them again?
[02:19] <tritium> unixdawg: it's in the universe repository
[02:19] <jero> terr_ if they wanted to prevent it however, they could. just by setting the stick controller to not allow writing on the bootblock
[02:19] <tonsofpcs> can I use apt to install packages for a 32 bit chroot when using a 64 bit kernel? [trying to modify a 32 bit livecd]
[02:19] <terr_> jero: on that new machine I'm going to install ubuntu on... it has no usuable peripherals at present - but it does ahve USB... maybe I can do the install that way
[02:20] <bigbucks> anyways
[02:20] <bigbucks> fixed
[02:20] <bigbucks> where do I get the file to install Ubuntu on VirtualBox
[02:20] <terr_> jero: I'll simply tell the salesman I want one that I can create a boot FS on
[02:20] <gsker> terr_: good luck with hat.   :-)
[02:20] <tritium> bigbucks: download the .iso image from ubuntu's website
[02:20] <gsker> s/hat/that/
[02:21] <RulerOf> bigbucks: why don't you just feed an ubuntu iso into it?
[02:21] <RulerOf> ah :P
[02:21] <terr_> jero: my machine is small enough I'll carry it in and ask them to show me it can be done.
[02:21] <jero> terr_ salesmen are known for knowing nothing
[02:21] <trent1> ok, well i got my answer. thanks for the help jero :)
[02:21] <bigbucks> IDK how to
[02:21] <tritium> bigbucks: go to the webpage and download it
[02:21] <Matr|X> the you for helping
[02:21] <terr_> jero this is not much different than buying a region free DVD.  If they say I can switch region codes I will show then a list of 4 and ask them to show me before I buy it.
[02:22] <terr_> jero I've done more sales than most and don't I know it!
[02:22] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: Ok. Done. Should I "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:22] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: sudo aptitude update, aptitude over apt-get is preffered :)
[02:22] <bigbucks> can I get a URL to the iso just I cannot find it
[02:22] <RulerOf> bigbucks: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[02:22] <terr_> jero in this business it is NOT an advantage to know much.  If you do then customers waste too much of your time... and go buy elsewhere
[02:22] <tritium> bigbucks: don't be so lazy
[02:23] <Hilikus> hey guys
[02:23] <Draken> I installed ubuntu just today and I had full effects for video and it said I had like 200 updates so I updated and now I cant enable any effects any ideas?
[02:23] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: Hmm... Never used aptitude. Same thing pretty much?
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Very much the same
[02:23] <Hilikus> what happens to my ubuntu box if i replace the mobo and CPU?? wil it still work or i have to reinstall?
[02:23] <Leppers> whats the command to view how much RAM is on machine and how much is free/used?
[02:23] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: Done. No errors. Thanks!
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> Leppers: top does it
[02:24] <bigbucks> it is a lond download
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Hilikus: hopefully.. ;)  if not, you don't have to pay for another user agreement to reinstall.
[02:24] <WX_0> Leppers: free -m
[02:24] <bigbucks> long
[02:24] <thoben> try top
[02:24] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: No problems
[02:24] <Leppers> thanks
[02:24] <terr_> Hilikus: I think it _should_ work.  However why do you want to save the case?  Just moive the HDD
[02:24] <Hilikus> terr_ i dont have 2 cases, what i really want to save is the current setup of my server, i dont want ot install and reconfigure every process i have running in it
[02:25] <gsker> temperature:             63 C
[02:25] <edge> how can u remove packages manually without using apt-get bc it wont do it
[02:25] <Draken> does anyone know why I would lose visual effects because of updates?
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> edge: why won't it?
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> edge: What are you trying to remove that apt-get wouldn't let you?
[02:25] <jrib> edge: be more specific than "it wont do it"
[02:25] <progre55> hi everybody!
[02:25] <terr_> Hilikus: but cases are basically throw aways.  You should install the MB and so forth in a new case and move the HDD
[02:25] <tritium> terr_: cases can be reused
[02:26] <edge> WebcamWonder IndyGunFreak it was installed with a .deb and the deb is gone, and i used i to remove it but it still things it exists so im having issues installing other stuff
[02:26] <progre55> can anybody suggest me a cool theme on ubuntu intrepid please? :)
[02:26] <Leppers> WebcamWonder: WX_0: You Guys Are Amazing!
[02:26] <Hilikus> terr_ i dont have another case. i just have an extra mobo and cpu
[02:26] <terr_> Hilikus: that way if there is a glitch you can move it back.  ALso how big is the HDD?  I picked up 160 GB IDE for like $35 bux.
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> edge: where'd you get the .deb?
[02:26] <WebcamWonder> edge: That is still very vague. Please pastebin the output when you are facing this problem
[02:26] <edge> IndyGunFreak from zimbra ,
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:26] <Hilikus> terr_ i have a 250gb and a 20gb
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, edge try to apt-get remove it, then pastebin the error
[02:27] <terr_> Hilikus: place the ner Mobo on a static matt and pulg a powersupply into it etc etc adn then try it...
[02:27] <terr_> Hilikus: is the OS on the 20GB?
[02:27] <edge> IndyGunFreak this is what happens when i try to use apt or any managment http://nopaste.com/p/auCLbTU66
[02:27] <terr_> Hilikus: that would be the smart way to do it.
[02:27] <Hilikus> terr_ my question was more, would ubuntu boot to the last status or it would freak out wit the different hardware
[02:27] <terr_> Hilikus: it should boot.  But I've never tried it.
[02:27] <Hilikus> terr_ yes, 20 for OS, 250 for mythtv
[02:28] <tritium> Hilikus: hardware is auto-detected on boot, so you shouln't have trouble.
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> edge: sudo apt-get install -f, that should fix broken packages first
[02:28] <Hilikus> thank guys
[02:28] <terr_> Hilikus: mythtv?
[02:28] <Hilikus> terr_ PVR
[02:28] <terr_> Hilikus: can you get another 20GB?
[02:28] <terr_> Hilikus: PVR?  I've never used it.
[02:28] <Matr|X> sudo apt-get install -f
[02:28] <Hilikus> terr_ what for?
[02:28] <dannywesleypasqu> ola
[02:28] <Matr|X> this will fix broken packeg
[02:28] <Hilikus> terr_ to install it again in the second one?
[02:29] <terr_> Hilikus: I like to leap frog - clone the HDD and don't bring down a machine until the new one is working.
[02:29] <dannywesleypasqu> hello
[02:29] <tritium> terr_: you're missing out.  There's an entire ubuntu derivative distro called mythbuntu specifically for mythtv.
[02:29] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder: is there a command line command to show a treeview of directories? i just am kind of freaked out about trying to ues these gui things. i do command line because i can see black and white.
[02:29] <Hilikus> terr_ i see
[02:29] <progre55> hey people, please anybody suggest me a cool theme on ubuntu intrepid :)
[02:29] <terr_> tritium: but I don't yet know what mythtc is.
[02:29] <dannywesleypasqu> sim
[02:29] <edge> Matr|X doesn't work
[02:29] <tritium> terr_: shocking
[02:30] <terr_> Hilikus: I've never had problems I could not get around mind you.
[02:30] <Matr|X> thx
[02:30] <edge> WebcamWonder that didn't work
[02:30] <tritium> !mythtv | terr_
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: I don't know. I have never been required to done that
[02:30] <Matr|X> cool theme for ubntu hardy ?
[02:30] <terr_> tritium: I live in a cave and plug my computers into rocks
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> edge: pastebin?
[02:30] <Hilikus> terr_ theres no way around hardware problems
[02:30] <edge> WebcamWonder http://nopaste.com/p/auCLbTU66
[02:30] <edge> WebcamWonder no matter what i do i get that ,its annoying i just wanna edit it out of its memory
[02:30] <terr_> tritium: that sounds VERY interesting for something I want to do
[02:30] <kshadow> Alright, I'm going to try and update to ibtrepid ibex.
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> Matr|X: there's lots of them.. http://www.gnome-look.org  assuming you're using gnome
[02:31] <tritium> terr_: good deal
[02:31] <kshadow> Hopefully my internet won't stop working again.
[02:31] <Hilikus> for some reason my system freezes and I THINK it happens when the temperature in my room drops
[02:31] <WebcamWonder> edge: What did, sudo apt-get install -f say?
[02:31] <dstrbdfrk1> does anyone have an acer aspire one i just got it and put ubuntu on it and i cant get my wireless working
[02:31] <Hilikus> so i,m pretty sure its hardware, not ubuntu
[02:31] <kshadow> dstrbdfrk1: I do.
[02:31] <kshadow> dstrbdfrk1: Well, aspire 5100.
[02:31] <kshadow> But my wireless wouldn't work with intrepid before.
[02:32] <WebcamWonder> dstrbdfrk1: Every model differs. You need to find what card is in your particular model
[02:32] <dstrbdfrk1> do you think you can help? kshadow
[02:32] <edge> WebcamWonder http://nopaste.com/p/aerS9RAh0
[02:32] <owen9914> dstrbdfrk1: install madwifi
[02:32] <terr_> Hilikus: how much liquid nitrogen are you using?
[02:32] <Hilikus> hehe
[02:32] <kshadow> dstrbdfrk1: Not sure, but someone earlier here said they installed madwifi-hal and got things working.
[02:32] <malibu> Is someone here familiar with samba?  I have server running on 8.10 and it works prefectly except I can't browse to the workgroup itself with windows.  I get 'network name not found'
[02:32] <WebcamWonder> edge: Can you actually go and download zimbra-core, and reinstall it?
[02:32] <malibu> I'm pulling my hair out over this.. tried a bunch of stuff i googled but nothing works
[02:32] <dstrbdfrk1> um i dont kno how to do those things im pretty new and im gunna need one on one instructions
[02:33] <edge> WebcamWonder i could, but its not installed , so why can't i just remove it from the package manager?
[02:33] <terr_> Hilikus: as for your migration issue... a 20GB should be next to nothing.  Clone your existing one is my suggestion...  also any old old old machine (spare) should be ok for this
[02:33] <jero> malibu - you tried to search for the server ip within windows?
[02:33] <Hilikus> terr_ this IS my spare machine :P
[02:33] <terr_> Hilikus: after you clone it - move the HDD and test it.
[02:33] <WebcamWonder> edge: Some package depends on it, and apt-get wants to reinstall it due to some reason
[02:33] <terr_> Hilikus: it seems to be a production machine too.
[02:33] <edge> WebcamWonder no way to over ride?
[02:33] <terr_> Hilikus: if you lived in my city I'd give you a spare!
[02:33] <WebcamWonder> edge: But this behaviour is very weird, even for apt-get
[02:34] <negativegluebear> anyone know why my S-video to my HDTV(1080p) resolution is maxing out at 1024x768?
[02:34] <Hilikus> terr_ i build a server just to use spare parts i had lying around
[02:34] <dstrbdfrk1> how do i install madwifi?
[02:34] <Hilikus> i built*
[02:34] <WebcamWonder> edge: It would be much easier if you went through the process of installation and removal
[02:34] <edge> WebcamWonder nothing relies on it , so im confused why i can't just delete it from a world list or something
[02:34] <terr_> be ahppy to do that for some help/manpower building a few systems to donate to some school labs in fact
[02:34] <malibu> jero: no.. what is the command for that?
[02:34] <owen9914> dstrbdfrk1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne should show you how to do it
[02:35] <terr_> friend of mine tosses machines... they tossed at least 50 a few months back
[02:35] <jero> malibu - first of, do a ping to your server, to see if there is no firewall blocking
[02:35] <Hilikus> :S
[02:35] <malibu> jero: just a regular ping?
[02:35] <jero> malibu - ping <serverIP>
[02:35] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> im having a issue with kubuntu.. is this the right channel ?
[02:35] <negativegluebear> try #kubuntu
[02:35] <terr_> jero: mytv looks awsome
[02:35] <malibu> jero: ping works.. not surprised.. it's just my home network
[02:35] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> negativegluebear: im trying but it places me here.. in #ubuntu
[02:36] <jero> malibu - then in windows open my computer, and do ctrl+f - and enter the server ip in the search field
[02:36] <negativegluebear> then ya you're in the right place =)
[02:36] <terr_> jero: how fast a machine (cpu mostly) would mytv need to run well?
[02:36] <malibu> jero: wow ctrl-f works?  Good trick.. trying.
[02:36] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> ok im having a issue.. im using the kubuntu live cd.. i am connecting my camera and it wont reconize
[02:36] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: That is b/c you are coming in from mibbit
[02:37] <Hilikus> terr_ it is awesome
[02:37] <jero> malibu - yes it works, i use it quite often when it fails to find the server automatically
[02:37] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: yeah im on a live cd.. so mibbit is fastest way for me to join irc channels
[02:37] <malibu> ok it found the computer by IP
[02:37] <malibu> jero: just browsing to it
[02:38] <malibu> jero: ok I'm in, that worked
[02:38] <Hilikus> terr_ it does take a lot of time and knowledge to get it running
[02:38] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Yup. The proxy setup just throws to #ubuntu, never considers other channels
[02:38] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> im plugging in my camera and it wont reconigze .... any ideas?
[02:38] <jero> terr_ - mythTV is really cool, but i stopped watching TV lately :D
[02:38] <perlsyntax_> What package do i need to install 2.6.1 python?
[02:38] <terr_> Hilikus: I've got an old shuttle machine... I don't know how fast the CPU is yet - but its about a vintage 2000 machine... do you think it can handle mytv?
[02:38] <DBO> i am having sound issues
[02:39] <malibu> perlsyntax_:  You need to build python for ubuntu
[02:39] <terr_> jero: with the crap that is on no kidding.
[02:39] <WebcamWonder> !sound | DBO
[02:39] <DBO> all I am getting is a crackling noise out of my speakers
[02:39] <perlsyntax_> yes i do
[02:39] <Hilikus> terr_ the requirements are not too bad except in harddrive and you need a tv tuner of course
[02:39] <perlsyntax_> i want to try the 2.6.1
[02:39] <DBO> WebcamWonder, no dice, seen those
[02:39] <terr_> BTW my shuttle will support 6 monitors!
[02:39] <WebcamWonder> DBO: Using PA or ALSA?
[02:39] <terr_> Hilikus: I was told we can get USB tuners
[02:39] <Dillizar> !gnomad
[02:39] <perlsyntax_> malibu
[02:39] <Hilikus> terr_ don't
[02:39] <Dillizar> !gnomad2
[02:40] <DBO> WebcamWonder, checking without PA now...
[02:40] <Hilikus> terr_ usb tuners use software encoding
[02:40] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> whats the gnome app for cameras ..
[02:40] <terr_> Hilikus: I was also told the HDTV is really an mpeg
[02:40] <Hilikus> terr_ in which case you do need a pretty powerful cpu
[02:40] <perlsyntax_> Does anyone know?
[02:40] <perlsyntax_> i know i need the devel files if i am right.
[02:40] <joshjtl> can anyone recommend an app to flip through desktop wallpaper?
[02:40] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> preinstalled on ubuntu.. anyone know
[02:40] <terr_> Hilikus: he was from Europe and I think was picking up HDTV - already an mpeg4
[02:40] <malibu> jero: know what I can try next?
[02:40] <l7> hi, i just installed the openssh server but i can't get a command prompt when i shell in to my box.  do i need to configure it to use a different login shell?
[02:41] <tritium> l7: nope
[02:41] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: There is no pre-installed app last time I checked. I think cheese happens to be the most popular one
[02:41] <WebcamWonder> !cheese
[02:41] <DBO> WebcamWonder, killing PA makes the crackling go away, but still no sound
[02:41] <jero> malibu - i thought you said you were in. what is the mater ?
[02:41] <terr_> l7 openssh server?
[02:41] <l7> tritium: why can't i get a command prompt then?
[02:41] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: there is a preinstalled app that deals with images and cameras though..
[02:41] <malibu> jero: I still can't get to the workgroup
[02:41] <tritium> l7: not sure.  You should be.
[02:41] <l7> terr_: yes
[02:41] <terr_> i7 mod-ssh? for apache?
[02:41] <Matr|X> i downloaded thems from here http://www.gnome-look.org/  how can i install it but i have compiz fuion installed on my box
[02:41] <malibu> jero: If I browse to the actual workgroup it doesn't work
[02:42] <patacute> hi, could anyone give me opera repo for ubuntu 8.10 source.list
[02:42] <WebcamWonder> DBO: What app are you testing your sound with?
[02:42] <Hilikus> terr_ ok, in that case maybe, but even with difital tv i have to digitize it because my cable box converts it to analog apparently (i'm using svideo) so i have to REdigitize it again to store it in my hdd
[02:42] <malibu> jero: I can use \\servername\share just fine
[02:42] <jero> malibu - have you restarted both machines?
[02:42] <DBO> WebcamWonder, there we go, PCM was magically shut off
[02:42] <jero> malibu - after setting it up?
[02:42] <l7> terr_: i have openssh-client and openssh-server installed
[02:42] <Dillizar> does any body knows smt bout gnomad
[02:42] <terr_> Hilikus: ac->dc->ac->dc adn on and on
[02:42] <Hilikus> afaik output of a cable box is always analog
[02:42] <DBO> WebcamWonder, ok, PA working now too... thanks for that =)
[02:43] <WebcamWonder> DBO: :) I didn't do anything
[02:43] <terr_> l7: its been a few years since I worked with that
[02:43] <tritium> Hilikus: what are you looking for?  Most HD TV tuner cards support ATSC (over-the-air) and unencrypted QAM-256 (cable)
[02:43] <malibu> jero: yes many times.. I've had this problem ever since upgrading from 7.10 to 8.10 a few months ago
[02:43] <DBO> WebcamWonder, shhh, its easier to say you fixed it than admit I forgot to check PCM
[02:43] <terr_> l7:  if you remind me what they do it might ring a bell.
[02:43] <Hilikus> terr_ yes, you can get digital tv tuners but i dont really see the point since you can't connect your cable directly to it cause all cable signals are scrambled
[02:44] <dstrbdfrk1> owen9914: i followed the instructions you gave me and i hit an error can you help?
[02:44] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> anyone know what i should do .. if it wont reconize my camera
[02:44] <WebcamWonder> Hilikus: A little offtopic, aren't we?
[02:44] <patacute> hi, could anyone give me opera repo for ubuntu 8.10 source.list
[02:44] <jero> malibu - sorry then i have no clue then. all the info i knew i gave you about this. Personally i would check if on the server site i set the sharing options properly for the folders etc i want to share
[02:44] <l7> terr_: openssh-server allows you to connect to your box via ssh and and adminster it remotely
[02:44] <Hilikus> tritium i'm still SD, but when i enquired about a digital tv card i was told it would still not work, basically no way around my cable provider's box
[02:44] <terr_> Hilikus: what of the feeds into the flat panels.
[02:44] <WebcamWonder> patacute: www.opera.com lists one last time I checked
[02:44] <l7> ah well, maybe a reboot will fix this, but i can't reboot for a few hours
[02:44] <terr_> l7:oh!
[02:44] <tritium> Hilikus: it depends on which channels they provide unencrypted
[02:45] <terr_> Of course I use it all te time!
[02:45] <patacute> webbhawk_h4x0r19, did u add it to your source.list?
[02:45] <tritium> l7: you don't have to reboot.  sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart, and see if it works
[02:45] <Hilikus> tritium probably none, who would, they want you to buy a box
[02:45] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> patacute: no whats that
[02:45] <tritium> Hilikus: most do, at least locals
[02:45] <terr_> l7: start the server daemon... you will need to config the user log in and any shell will owrk.  On the remote machine just ssh blah
[02:45] <malibu> jero: Ok thanks..
[02:46] <patacute> webbhawk_h4x0r19, ok i see
[02:46] <malibu> jero: it's a tough one.. been trying to figure it out for a long time
[02:46] <WebcamWonder> patacute: What are you talking about?
[02:46] <malibu> jero: usually I get around the probllem with network places, but now I'm in a position with an app that I need the workgroup
[02:46] <patacute> webbhawk_h4x0r19, i want to add opera repo to my souce.list
[02:46] <patacute> WebcamWonder, ^^
[02:46] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> i didnt say that
[02:47] <terr_> Hilikus: there are two interfaces into flat panels and I forget the letters since I've not used them (yet).  One is just digital like DPI or somehting and the other includes sound and is like HDLC or something
[02:47] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> i cant get my camera to reconize
[02:47] <l7> terr_: how do i start the server daemon?  i can already ssh to localhost, so perhaps this means it is running but not properly configured.
[02:47] <terr_> Hilikus: I can't find my notes right now
[02:47] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> im trying to copy the pictures to my computer
[02:47] <WebcamWonder> patacute: System -> Administration -> Software Sources, add away
[02:47] <tritium> terr_: DVI and HDMI (also DisplayPort)
[02:47] <terr_> tritium: thanks
[02:47] <Hilikus> terr_ but you still need to descramble the signal from your cable provider, so you have to go through a set top box, which output is analog
[02:47] <tritium> No, I did not equate HDMI to DisplayPort, they are separate standards.
[02:48] <patacute> WebcamWonder, thanks
[02:48] <jero> malibu was there any reason for you to upgrade to 7.10?
[02:48] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: any idea what i should do
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> !webcam | webbhawk_h4x0r19
[02:48] <jero> 8.10 pardon
[02:48] <terr_> Hilikus: but I thought DVI and HDVI were digital?
[02:48] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: its a digital camera
[02:48] <tritium> Hilikus: see this:  http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | terr_ Hilikus tritium
[02:48] <tritium> terr_: they are
[02:48] <terr_> l7: to start the deamon try sshd
[02:48] <Hilikus> ok
[02:48] <Hilikus> thanks for the help guys
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: And it doesn't show up as a hdd?
[02:48] <Hilikus> good night
[02:48] <tritium> WebcamWonder: take it easy
[02:49] <l7> terr_: it says "sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path"
[02:49] <malibu> jero: 8.10?  no, not particularly.. Just wanted to stay fresh
[02:49] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder:  no i plug it in turn it on .. and nothing happens
[02:49] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Did you try googling that specific model>
[02:49] <jero> malibu - 7.10 is actually running faster, and since it worked fine, you actually did a downgrade :D
[02:49] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> yes... nothing really..
[02:49] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> its worked before
[02:49] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> never had any issues
[02:50] <terr_> l7: hmm... I've never seen that... try /locate sshd and then /usr/local or wherever it lives
[02:50] <l7> terr_: actually /usr/sbin/sshd is already running when i do ps
[02:50] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Can you pastebin the output of, sudo fdisk -l  ?
[02:50] <tritium> l7: did you restart it, as I told you to?
[02:50] <malibu> jero: doh
[02:50] <terr_> l7: ok - then the issue is in /etc/sshd
[02:50] <l7> tritium: kill it and restart it?
[02:50] <malibu> jero: I have probs with 8.10 too.
[02:50] <joshjtl> can anyone recommend a random wallpaper switcher?
[02:50] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: sure.. whats the key press that will give me a terminal
[02:50] <tritium> l7: no, sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart, like I said
[02:50] <terr_> l7: ok - then the issue is in /etc/sshd.config or whatiever its called.  I can check mine
[02:51] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Applications -> Acc -> terminal
[02:51] <malibu> jero: hope 9.10 is better
[02:51] <jero> malibu - my favorite is 8.04. If i read correctly it will be supported till 2011. Appart it was the one running best with my hardware, and the one running best in my vbox
[02:51] <tritium> terr_: it shouldn't require any config changes.  It should run "out of the box."
[02:51] <jero> malibu - 8.10 is supported only till 2010 if i read correct
[02:51] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Ihave to go
[02:51] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Sorry
[02:51] <terr_> tritium: I forget... servers have been up for years... also my servers are openBSD... desktops are linux
[02:51] <l7> terr_: the thing is i can login to my box, but i cannot get a shell
[02:52] <dstrbdfrk1> ok i have an acer aspire one and i cant get the wifi to work i have googeled it and there is instructions on how to fix but there not working so i need some one on one help please
[02:52] <malibu> jero: I always wonder what I'm missing by running the .04 though
[02:52] <tritium> l7: then what do you get when you ssh to your box?
[02:52] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> can anyone help me with .. a camera that wont reconigze
[02:52] <l7> terr_: it seems to me that it does not know it needs to give me a bash shell when i log in
[02:52] <terr_> l7 what is in the /etc/passwd file?
[02:52] <tritium> l7: what do you see?  Can you pastebin it?
[02:52] <malibu> jero: How does 8.04 speed compare to 8.10?
[02:52] <joshjtl> hmm anyone
[02:52] <jero> malibu - 8.04 is faster in my vbox - much faster
[02:53] <tritium> jero: that seems far-fetched
[02:53] <l7> tritium: yes, in a moment
[02:53] <tritium> malibu: quite comparable
[02:53] <terr_> l7: mine seems ot be 100% defaults
[02:53] <RussM> malibu: I jumped up to 8.10 when it came out, and though I have no objective numbers, it does seem a little slower.
[02:54] <malibu> russM: I guess that teaches me to do alittle research first.. newer not necessarily better
[02:54] <cphillips> how can i tell if my router is a b g or n?
[02:54] <l7> tritium:  [Act: 9,10,11]
[02:54] <l7> [#ubuntu]
[02:54] <l7> whups
[02:54] <l7> tritium: here it is: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d27c070bc
[02:54] <jero> tritium nope, it is not. The mesa software acceleration on the 8.04 running in a vbox with the vbox tools installed, gives me 1800fps in glxgears . In 8.10 i get only around 400fps. But i also notice that when i run my opengl C code i develope within the vbox. On 8.04 my cube spins juust fine. 8.10 has problems with drawing it fast enough, making it look messy
[02:54] <tritium> l7: looks like irssi ;)
[02:55] <l7> yeah, mispaste :)
[02:55] <l7> so it gets to that point and then i just see a blinking cursor
[02:55] <terr_> jero that couild be a schedualer... try nice
[02:55] <tritium> jero: most benchmarks I've seen show performance gains (slight, but gains, nonetheless)
[02:55] <l7> ctrl-c doesn't allow me t escape either
[02:55] <l7> to*
[02:56] <RussM> malibu: In fact, newer is quite often worse... I immediately had problems because nothing worked with the new kernel yet (that is, things like VMWare). Took a little bit for the rest of the world to catch up.
[02:56] <jero> tritium - i am not saying there is not faster than 8.04 out there, cause there is, icebuntu 7.10 for example is even faster, but it is not fun working with it. 8.04 is very much like native in full screen. In fact i use it more often than my host OS
[02:56] <RussM> malibu: But someone has to run the new stuff, or the problems never get fixed.
[02:56] <jero> tritium - well, not in a vbox. Maybe on a desktop
[02:56] <tritium> jero: correct
[02:56] <tritium> l7: hitting "enter" doesn't get you a command prompt?
[02:58] <l7> tritium: no, it just creates a new line in the terminal screen, but nothing happens
[02:58] <dstrbdfrk1> acer aspire one 8.10 wifi trouble please help
[02:58] <lain_wired> Hiya, I may be just not seeing it, but I can't find the link to the 8.10 torrent. :\
[02:59] <tritium> l7: that's quite odd.  I've never seen that happen before.
[02:59] <jrib> !torrent | lain_wired
[02:59] <l7> tritium: okay this is weird, hitting ctrl-\ allows me to get a working shell
[02:59] <jrib> !torrents | lain_wired
[02:59] <mikeshollen> Can someone please help me get my Microphone working?
[02:59] <l7> so it works, but this seems like strange behavior
[03:00] <dyf> hello..  i change the file /etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu and it somehow returns back to how it was.. why is that?
[03:00] <tritium> l7: it is...very
[03:00] <l7> i have no idea why ctrl-\ makes it work either
[03:00] <lain_wired> Thanks :)
[03:00] <l7> i thought i'd try to escape from it like telnet
[03:00] <dstrbdfrk1> can someone pleaseee help me get my acer aspire one working im sure its a simple problem i cant figure out
[03:01] <MTecknology> How can I make a comment about a file in bazaar?
[03:01] <malibu> RussM: Yeah well I had problems getting VMWare server to work in 7.10 too!
[03:02] <malibu> RussM: It's pretty amazing once it's working tho
[03:02] <unixdawg> ok I am down to 1 issue
[03:02] <unixdawg> applications not grabbing audio from the mic on dsp
[03:02] <unixdawg> skype/xlite/zoiper
[03:03] <unixdawg> kssh/kiax
[03:03] <unixdawg> not kssh
[03:03] <unixdawg> kphone
[03:03] <dstrbdfrk1> acer aspire one madwifi not working tried everything i kno please help
[03:04] <RussM> malibu, Are you using VMware 2.0.x or 1.0.x? I initially had problems getting 2.0.x to run on 8.10, and ended up going back to 1.0.x. I was thinking of trying again, but I've heard some mixed things about VMware Server 2.0.x
[03:04] <xorgiporgi> hello my graphics doesn't work (only bulletproofx) on ubuntu 8.04 and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only asks me for keyboard options not for video, what can i do ;(
[03:05] <dstrbdfrk1> what command can i run to turn on my wifi???
[03:05] <seacnboy> hello, my hotmail is Garbled? who knows what's wrong
[03:06] <xorgiporgi> does ubuntu not work with intel graphics card on a dell vostro 200?
[03:07] <dstrbdfrk1> like am i being ignored or what
[03:07] <NotADJ> I have Kerberos Server installed, but it seems as if only the admin sevrer is open.
[03:07] <malibu> RussM: Using server 2.0
[03:07] <unixdawg> anyone here having issues with audi
[03:07] <unixdawg> o
[03:07] <gadabyte> #
[03:07] <RussM> dstrbdfrk1, Just can't help you, unfortunately.
[03:07] <malibu> Russm: The new web console took a lot of getting used to..
[03:07] <dstrbdfrk1> well thanx neway
[03:07] <progre55> hey people, please anybody suggest me a cool theme on ubuntu intrepid :)
[03:07] <malibu> RussM: But now I love it
[03:07] <unixdawg> and use skype/xlite/zoiper
[03:08] <anotherchimp> what do you think is cool? pink ponies? or matrix themes
[03:08] <dstrbdfrk1> come on now surley somebody knows whats wrong with my acer aspire one... i dont wanna have to switch to windows..
[03:09] <RussM> malibu Is there any client besides the web client? Or perhaps some good way to get rid of all the typical browser cruft around the outside of the window?
[03:09] <Flannel> !repeat | dstrbdfrk1
[03:11] <Cerrdor> i have a hp pavilion ze2000 with wifi card built in but it is not loading at boot
[03:11] <Cerrdor> also does not recognize how do i modprobe it?
[03:12] <unop> !wifi
[03:12] <unop> Cerrdor, have you had a look here? ^^
[03:12] <jamrun9> ... I'm trying to figure out the brand of my CD / DVD drive... lspci doesn't seem to offer any hints, nor does tailing dmesg. any ideas on where to find that? the specs for my laptop don't specify, either.
[03:12] <Cody> Im trying to make a Client AP and on a tutorial it tell me in basic settings tab to set the wireless network mode to client but i cannot do that. Theres no client mode.
[03:12] <Cody>  But it does have Use as Access Point is that the same thing?
[03:13] <unop> jamrun9, use.  lshal, lshw, hal-device, etc
[03:13] <zXstanyXz> anyone around that can help me with installing an ati driver? :D
[03:14] <Dexi> hey can anyone assist me in running a .run file?
[03:14] <Cody> Whats your problem
[03:14] <jero> Cody - client mode == managed ,   being an Access Point == master
[03:14] <Dexi> Cody: me? i dont know how
[03:15] <Dexi> :p i is newb
[03:15] <Cody> Me neither i was just going to help you research but hell try google first.
[03:15] <jero> Cody - try iwconfig --help in a terminal and check the mode setting
[03:15] <zXstanyXz> dexi open up a console and then sh "file"
[03:15] <zXstanyXz> i think that should run the .run file
[03:15] <unop> zXstanyXz, not a good idea - it might not be a shell script
[03:15] <Dexi> zXstanyXz: thanks :)
[03:15] <unop> Dexi, ^^
[03:15] <Dexi> unop: wha?
[03:16] <unop> Dexi, rather.  chmod +x  file.run;  ./file.run
[03:16] <Dexi> ... ok
[03:16] <zXstanyXz> true unop, though the only .run files i've came across are shell scripts
[03:16] <unop> zXstanyXz, that's a bad assumption tho
[03:16] <zXstanyXz> yeah i know
[03:16]  * zXstanyXz hangs head in shame 
[03:17] <unop> zXstanyXz, there might be text in it that could be devastating if run under /bin/sh
[03:17] <Cerrdor> how do i find out what wireless card is built in?
[03:17] <gbleezy> whoo hoo!
[03:17] <Cody> Cerrdor:  lspci
[03:17] <Cody> Cerrdor: lspci in the terminal that is.
[03:17] <Cerrdor> ty
[03:17] <_VIM_> gbleezy: ?
[03:17] <jamrun9> unop: either I'm blind or stupid... or it really isn't listing this cd drive
[03:17] <Cody> Labeled network controller.
[03:17] <gbleezy> I just installed Xubuntu 8.10 on my Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop....and it installed FLAWLESSLY!! I'm so happy...
[03:17] <unop> jamrun9, on mine.   lshal | grep -i storage.model  # lists the model
[03:18] <Cpudan80> Hooray Ubuntu!
[03:18] <RussM> jamrun9, You did an "lshw" and there wasn't anything labelled "*-cdrom" ?
[03:18] <jero> gbleezy i dont want to poop into your party, but does suspend work too?
[03:18] <Cpudan80> G-Bleezy: inspiron has pretty common stuff, no surprise there
[03:18] <KevDog> Cerrdor: lspci -C network
[03:18] <G-Bleezy> I tried Fedora, and Back Track...niether of those installed very easy....this CD just booted and installed like a charm
[03:19] <Cpudan80> Fedora shoulda been ok
[03:19] <jamrun9> unop: I was blind. and there was a lot of output, and I didn't catch that as I was reading past.
[03:19] <G-Bleezy> Fedora wouldn't boot...
[03:19] <nickrud> G-Bleezy, thanks for mentioning a nice install; we mostly hear about the busts :(
[03:19] <jamrun9> RussM: no, if I had grepped for that string, there would have been nothing
[03:19] <Cpudan80> interesting
[03:19] <jamrun9> but it's all good. thank you guys :)
[03:19] <Cpudan80> nickrud: yeah - they only yell and holler when stuff breaks ;-)
[03:19] <G-Bleezy> aw no way! I just burn the xubuntu cd and boot it up and install and it worked like a charm! I'm in love with my laptop again..
[03:20] <siropio> who knows how to fix my radio channels?
[03:20] <G-Bleezy> i havn't used it in like 8 months cause windows xp was so bogged on it..
[03:21] <progre55> hey everybody. why is it when I turn the custom effects on on ubuntu intrepid, my mplayer keeps blinking?
[03:21] <progre55> is there any solution to that?
[03:21] <G-Bleezy> so ya if there's a compatability list, add Dell Inspiron 8500 to the list... :)
[03:21] <zXstanyXz> since i dont *think* anyone replied first time... anyone think they would be able to help me with installing an ati driver?? every time i try the x-server wont start up after i restart the computer
[03:21] <ndogbosok> -0
[03:22] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: did you try the restricted drivers?
[03:22] <arvind_khadri> progre55: dont use efects at all :P :)
[03:22] <_VIM_> add Dell Demension  2400 to that list too (I know it's an Abacus, but it works flawlessly in Ubuntu)
[03:22] <G-Bleezy> oh wow...1326 people in here? i think thats the most people i ever seen in one chan...thats crazy..
[03:22] <zXstanyXz> yeps, thats the ones that crash the x-server arvind_khadri
[03:22] <progre55> arvind_khadri, does it mean there's no solution to that? :)
[03:23] <Cpudan80> G-Bleezy: Its a big channel ;-)
[03:23] <arvind_khadri> progre55: not that i know of... check the forums once
[03:23] <G-Bleezy> _VIM_: ya my Inspiron is like 6 years old too i think...
[03:23] <_VIM_> abacus's FTW! :)
[03:23] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: hmm , so which ones are you using now? the one from their site?
[03:23] <progre55> arvind_khadri, well, there are more than a 1000 people here.. at least one should know I hope )
[03:23] <jero> zXstanyXz - you installed the newest or the drivers available from the repos?
[03:24] <G-Bleezy> Cpudan80: ya only time i seen more people i think is some kind of take over on efnet
[03:24] <arvind_khadri> progre55: sure :) hang out
[03:24] <zXstanyXz> actually both the restricted and the one in the repository crash it...currently using, ermmm, whatever the default was when i installed ubuntu... doesnt work very well since half the colours are fucked up... i thik it's running at 8bit colour atm arvind_khadri
[03:25] <_VIM_> !ohmy | zXstanyXz
[03:25] <arvind_khadri> !language | zXstanyXz
[03:25] <Luxmux> HI all ive a Problem with my mplayer.. it does not work for videos.. i dont know why.. vlc, Movieplayer, kaffeien work just fine... ive a Radeon x1950xt with prop. Driver installed... when i try to play a vid mplayer is giving me the following: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394040/
[03:25] <zXstanyXz> oopsies, my bad
[03:25] <progre55> arvind_khadri, can you suggest me any nice theme for intrepid? :)
[03:25] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: hmm... crash x-server in ?
[03:26] <arvind_khadri> progre55: gnome-look.org has got tons of them
[03:26] <progre55> thansk man )
[03:26] <arvind_khadri> progre55: i installed ibex today :)
[03:26] <zXstanyXz> what you mean in arvind_khadri?
[03:27] <jero> zXstanyXz - my success with this ati mobility 9600 was just installing 8.04 ubuntu, which had 3d acceleration work straight for some stuff like openarena , but no compiz. Then i just clicked on the enable proprietary driver under hardware, and had the full fglxr acceleration going after a sudo aticonfig --initial -f . So i got full acceleration including compiz with just 1 click.
[03:27] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: when you say the drivers crash X what do you mean by that?? you dont get the resolutions thats it?
[03:27] <jero> zXstanyXz - if you bothered with the newest drivers of the ati site, i am not suprised you ran into issues. I could get their newest beta 9.2 to work however. But then it would crash randomly on my ATI card
[03:27] <Cody> This is my setup: Computer>Router>Internet , I need the setup to be Computer>router>router>Internet. How do i do that?
[03:28] <malibu> RussM: No, not for VM Server 2.. The web console is it.  I got minimenu for Firefox and put it on the same line as my address bar
[03:28] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: so now what do you want when you have it working?
[03:28] <zXstanyXz> when i restart the computer the x-server crashes when trying to start up and i have to switch to the console to log in and reboot the computer.. arvind_khadri
[03:28] <malibu> RussM: The console doesn't work with Chrome, unfortunately.  Google's fault, not VMWare's
[03:29] <zXstanyXz> jero my card is an asus ati radeon HD4850 and trying to use either the newest drivers from the site or the drivers in the ubuntu repository
[03:29] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: hmmm look into the xorg.conf file and check out which drivers its using.... i dont know the module name properly but must be ati ...
[03:29] <kingtut> can any body tell me what packages i need download to play regular dvd
[03:30] <Cody> This is my setup: Computer>Router>Internet , I need the setup to be Computer>router>router>Internet. How do i do that?
[03:30] <MeVsTheVoices> arvind_khadri: fglrx
[03:30] <Cpudan80> !dvd | kingtut
[03:30] <arvind_khadri> !dvd | kingtut
[03:30] <joshjtl> what are we supposed to use as a startup manager (choose apps to start at boot or gnome start) ?
[03:30] <arvind_khadri> MeVsTheVoices: thanks :)
[03:30] <Cody> kingtut:  It should already be downloaded
[03:30] <tavo> I've got a doubt. can be build drivers for linux from those for windows? I'm talking about wireless. OR would be better using ndiswrapper????
[03:30] <jero> zXstanyXz as you are messing around with ati drivers, you might as well try the newest 9.2 beta. might work for you
[03:30] <Cody> kingtut:  Called movie player.
[03:30] <MeVsTheVoices> Cody: Totem
[03:30] <Cpudan80> kingtut: It might all be in ubuntu-restricted-extras (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[03:31] <Cody> MeVsTheVoices:  Whats totem?
[03:31] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: look into the xorg.conf file for fglrx
[03:31] <G-Bleezy> so should look for .deb installs when installing software for ubuntu right? and what is YUM?
[03:31] <MeVsTheVoices> Cody: The real name for movie player
[03:31] <Cody> Okay ty.
[03:31] <Cpudan80> a quite crappy movie player
[03:31] <Cpudan80> use VLC
[03:31] <Cody> Yes n deed.
[03:31] <cphillips>  /join #ubuntu-us-oh
[03:31] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: install only from the repos...
[03:31] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Bleezy: You should look for .deb, YUM is for different distros, same idea, different format
[03:32] <zXstanyXz> atm i know its not there arvind_khadri cos xfix removes it from there when i recover my install
[03:32] <kingtut> i am useing vlc player and keffeine player
[03:32] <G-Bleezy> k...i was just installing flash plugin and it gave me 5 options..
[03:32] <G-Bleezy> i'll go with .deb Ubuntu +8.03
[03:32] <brian____> Cpudan80: why does everyone recommend VLC over mplayer?
[03:33] <Cpudan80> brian____: because VLC plays everything and doesnt complain
[03:33] <kitche> brian____: because not everyone does I recommand mplayer over VLC to a point
[03:33] <G-Bleezy> hey wait...what do you open .deb's with?
[03:33] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: seems like you dont have enough luck with fglrx .... after you recover your install is it possible for you to have accelarated graphics?
[03:33] <kitche> Cpudan80: yes maybe back in 1998 VLC was like that
[03:33] <Cpudan80> brian____: plus it has ports for mac/windows so you can use it anywhere
[03:33] <lstarnes> G-Bleezy: dpkg -i
[03:33] <Cpudan80> kitche: It still is ...
[03:33] <zXstanyXz> nopes arvind_khadri, not that i know of
[03:33] <G-Bleezy> k
[03:33] <MeVsTheVoices> brian_: Faster older, more formats supported, larger base, more bug reports, faste bug fix time, faster buffer rate, easy transcoding, ncurses interface, multi-platform mozilla plugin, need more?
[03:33] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: you can double-click on then...gdebi handles them...or from cli dpkg -i
[03:34] <Cpudan80> kitche: or well, it comes prepacked with virtually everything you need to run anything common
[03:34] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: did you try googling about your issue...the forums?
[03:34] <brian____> HeVsTheVoices: guess I'll have to look at it again.
[03:35] <Kephu> Hi, can anyone point me to a reasonable method of ripping dvds on ubuntu?
[03:35] <Cody> Can anyone tell me how to connect a router to a router?
[03:35] <Cody> Kephu:  Brasero?
[03:35] <zXstanyXz> jero theres no 9.2beta listed on the download page for my card
[03:36] <Kephu> Cody, does it do transcoding to avi with defined parameters, such as size and audio format?
[03:36] <Cody> Kephu:  Beyond my limits. One day ill be able to answer that
[03:36] <Cody> Sorry
[03:36] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: the beta versions are unstable....
[03:37] <kephu> sorry, got disconnected accidentally
[03:37] <Cody> Can anyone tell me how to connect a wireless router to a wireless router.
[03:37] <Cody> kephu, no sorry thats beyond my limits.
[03:37] <kephu> so, can anyone recommend me a dvd ripper kit?
[03:37] <kephu> Cody, wirelessly or via cable?
[03:38] <Cody> Wirelessly.
[03:38] <zXstanyXz> lol,i know arvind_khadri, but it cant be any worse than what i have atm :p
[03:38] <G-Bleezy> so i double click this .deb i just downloaded and it wants me to choose an application to open the file with...
[03:38] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: maybe you can try envyng
[03:38] <kephu> just to make sure, Cody, why would you do that?
[03:39] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: it should open with g-debi
[03:39] <Cody> Because my computer connects to a router to the internet and i need it to be computer router router internet.
[03:39] <zXstanyXz> envying?
[03:39] <arvind_khadri> !envng | zXstanyXz
[03:39] <arvind_khadri> !envyng > zXstanyXz
[03:40] <Cody> kephu:  Can you help?
[03:41] <kephu> Cody, I'm not sure if I understand correctly. So, basically, you have two routers?
[03:41] <G-Bleezy> where is gdebi on my hdd?
[03:42] <zXstanyXz> im checking one other thing first but then i'll prolly try that arvind_khadri
[03:42] <Cody> I have 1 router downstairs. That my computer picks up. Now i have my xbox 360 upstairs , and i want to get on live. I cant connect by plugging an thernet cord into my computer from the xbox but it will connect when i plug the xbox into a router. So i want a second router in my room.
[03:42] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: btw why are you using a .deb downloaded from somewhere....which application is that?
[03:43] <Cody> Can anyone help me acheive that?^^^^
[03:43] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: ok
[03:43] <giaco> hello
[03:43] <zXstanyXz> grrrr, the asus site has winblows drivers only
[03:43] <giaco> how can I change the "default text editor" when double clicking on a file?
[03:44] <G-Bleezy> downloading flash plugin for firefox with firefox
[03:44] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: use flashplugin-nonfree
[03:44] <SiVA_> I have two different Dell laptops here. One has ubuntu 8.10 and one has kubuntu 8.10. I have tried 3 or 4 different movie DVDs and NONE work
[03:44] <G-Bleezy> what is that
[03:44] <SiVA_> I've tried using Totem, Gnome movie player, Mplayer, and the kde one
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: as in, open the terminal and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:45] <SiVA_> 4 different video programs, two different distributions and 4 different DVDs. All the dvds work in my tv
[03:45] <kshadow> SiVA_: You have libdvdread, or whatever it is?
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: its the flash plugin you wanted... its there in the repo's ...
[03:45] <SiVA_> kshadow not sure
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> !flash > G-Bleezy
[03:46] <kshadow> SiVA_: There was a big forum post or website about dvd reading, one sec.
[03:46] <SiVA_> you know the exact name of it?
[03:46] <kshadow> I'll see if I can find it again.
[03:46] <SiVA_> hrm.. why is it so hard to play dvds?
[03:46] <jziesemann> I'm having trouble getting my sound to work on an HP Pavilion laptop
[03:46] <arvind_khadri> !dvd > SiVA_
[03:46] <kshadow> You just need the proper libraries.
[03:46] <G-Bleezy> ok
[03:46] <kshadow> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-play-dvd-under-ubuntu-linux
[03:46] <arvind_khadri> jziesemann: can you please explain more
[03:47] <InfectedWithDrew> How do I use partimage to restore an image I created?  I have no clue how to do anything so I need a detailed explanation.
[03:47] <kshadow> I guess arvind_khadri is more help/.
[03:47] <arvind_khadri> kshadow: :)
[03:47] <jziesemann> My external speakers aren't doing anything when I try to play any audio, but I can hear sound through headphones
[03:47] <kingtut> i had it working but i installed larger harddrive on the smaller harddrive it work but i dont remember how it done it
[03:47] <thiebaude> SiVA:http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-play-dvd-under-ubuntu-linux
[03:48] <kshadow> thiebaude: I just posted that :P
[03:48] <thiebaude> thanks kshadow
[03:48] <SiVA_> thank you all for the links/suggestions
[03:48] <thiebaude> lol
[03:48] <arvind_khadri> jziesemann: in the terminal type alsamixer and check whether the levels are up
[03:48] <SiVA_> but seriously.. it's 2009. Why wouldn't a modern, consumer level distribution not be able to play a dvd out of the box?
[03:48] <kshadow> That wasn't the site I was thinking of, but it seems to cover it.
[03:49] <Flannel> SiVA_: #ubuntu-offtopic is a good place to discuss that, and I'd be happy to if you'll follow me there.
[03:49] <SiVA_> we went on a 10 hour road trip, packed two laptops, and 6 dvds for the kids to watch on the way up... imagine the disappointment
[03:49] <thiebaude> SiVA:on windows xp you need a third party program to play a dvd
[03:49] <arvind_khadri> SiVA_: as there are still laws forbiding it...Ubuntu comes from US so laws are strict there
[03:49] <jziesemann> It's showing at 100
[03:49] <SiVA_> thiebaude: windows xp is old
[03:49] <meoblast001> how do you run cpuburn?
[03:50] <Flannel> SiVA_: #ubuntu-offtopic, this isn't the place for this discussion
[03:50] <SiVA_> it's ok.. sorry
[03:50] <arvind_khadri> jziesemann: all the levels? ok check System -> Preferences -> Sound
[03:50] <Flannel> !away > JamesMowery
[03:51] <InfectedWithDrew> !partimage
[03:51] <arvind_khadri> !sound > jziesemann
[03:51] <meoblast001> which should i run to test CPU.... burnBX   burnK6   burnK7   burnMMX  burnP5   burnP6
[03:51] <skate2> how can i make a custom keyboard shortcut to launch specific applications in gnome?
[03:52] <Newfie_rich>  Hey all, when i type javac in terminal I get an error msg saying that i don't have a java development kit installed... but in synaptic package manager it says it is installed...
[03:52] <skate2> system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts only seems to have a limited number of preselected shortcuts
[03:52] <arvind_khadri> skate2: system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[03:52] <Newfie_rich> sun-java6-jdk that is
[03:52] <skate2> arvind_khadri,  i want to make a custom shortcut to launch gvim type 'windowskey+g'
[03:53] <G-Bleezy> How to install Flash:  Applications -> System -> Add/Remove Programs...  lol :P
[03:53] <mca6> malang
[03:53] <mca6> fantinus
[03:53] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy:  :)
[03:53] <thiebaude> Newfie_ricch:goto java.com to see if you have java installed
[03:53] <Flynsarmy> Is it worth installing a 64-bit version of ubuntu? Are there still alot of software incompatabilities?
[03:53] <Newfie_rich> ok
[03:53] <mca6> boleh kenalan nggak
[03:54] <mca6> nm km siapa
[03:54] <gsp2009> evening all...
[03:54] <mca6> blh tau nmer hpnya nggak
[03:55] <Flannel> !id | mca6
[03:56] <Newfie_rich> Thiebaude: weird, says i have version 1.6.0_0 although i installed 6 just then from synaptic.... maybe I will install it from this website and see what happens.. I might need your guys help though
[03:56] <GeffIsLegend> hey everyone i need help running WoW on my ubuntu install, i keep getting a error every time i try to run it , and the game crashes
[03:57] <gsp2009> GeffIsLegend, and so what is the error?
[03:57] <nickrud> GeffIsLegend, did you try running it as an opengl app?
[03:57] <deww> Newfie_rich: java names them funny. that is 6
[03:57] <deww> rather, sun names Java funny
[03:57] <deww> 1.6 = 6
[03:57] <GeffIsLegend> im not sure what the error is, its a really long list
[03:57] <GeffIsLegend> and how would i go about running it as a opengl app?
[03:57] <Newfie_rich> deww: thanks, but still... why won't javac work in terminal
[03:57] <Flannel> GeffIsLegend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft  check out the config.wtf stuff
[03:58] <deww> check your paths
[03:58] <GeffIsLegend> kk
[03:58] <nickrud> GeffIsLegend, especially the stuff about opengl
[03:59] <Newfie_rich> deww: ahhh right, whats the whats the command to do that again? i forget
[03:59] <skate2> how can i a custom keyboard shortcut in gnome to launch gvim type 'windowskey+g'
[04:00] <nickrud> skate2, gconf-editor /apps/metacity/ , the keybindings_command and global_keybindings
[04:00] <oiuf2Wreu> back lol
[04:01] <bigbucks> =)
[04:01] <bigbucks> ok
[04:01] <unixdawg> ok got the headset working
[04:01] <bigbucks> I have the ubuntu setup open
[04:01] <bigbucks> I try to use the arrow and enter key and t does not work
[04:01] <RussM> skate2: I read www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-create-keyboard-shortcuts-in-gnome/ and it reco'd gconf-editor
[04:02] <bigbucks> I just go past the Language part
[04:02] <Newfie_rich> how do i check/change where terminal looks for commands?
[04:02] <bigbucks> can anyone help
[04:02] <RussM> skate2, though I can't say I tried it myself.
[04:02] <kapace_laptop> hello, my friend is using live-cd and would like me to help him partition his drive
[04:03] <kapace_laptop> is there a way to do this remotely using remote access?
[04:03] <brettley> kapace_laptop: yes it is
[04:03] <bigbucks> try, TeamViewer3
[04:03] <kapace_laptop> does he have to install it?
[04:03] <Newfie_rich> how do i check/change where terminal looks for commands?
[04:03] <bigbucks> yes
[04:03] <kapace_laptop> hes not what i would call "computer literate"
[04:04] <bigbucks> can someone help me with my problem
[04:04] <bigbucks> I opened Ubuntu install in VirtualBox and started the Install, I just got the language part, but the next part does not work
[04:05] <CTho> how do i disable compiz?  ATI + compiz + Xv = too much suffering
[04:05] <Cpudan80> CTho: what ATi card?
[04:05] <Cpudan80> CTho: system --> prefs --> appearance --> vis effects --> none
[04:06] <bigbucks> can you help me now?
[04:06] <CTho> Cpudan80: thanks you
[04:06] <CTho> Cpudan80: Radeon HD 2900 XT
[04:06] <bigbucks> lol
[04:06] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[04:06] <CTho> Cpudan80: but i thought all cards had the issue with fglrx?
[04:07] <Cpudan80> I dunno
[04:07] <Cpudan80> my ATi card is even older than that
[04:07] <Cpudan80> 7500
[04:08] <Cpudan80> So I don't use fglrx
[04:08] <jaem> is there a reason g15daemon doesn't seem to have a -dev package?
[04:08] <jero> the whole 3d acceleration thing in linux, specially with ati cards needs a review
[04:08] <jaem> I can build it manually, in any case, but it's odd
[04:08] <GeffIsLegend> okay guys so i got WoW working now , but the sound doesnt work , how do i fix this?
[04:09] <jaem> >_< never mind - it didn't appear in the search in Synaptic, but it is in fact there
[04:09] <jero> GeffIsLegend - i think in wine you can choose between alsa and OSS somewhere in the config files. try editing those?
[04:10] <bug> you ren ma ?
[04:10] <GeffIsLegend> o okay
[04:10] <binarymutant> GeffIsLegend, http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/World_of_Warcraft#WoW_sound_settings
[04:10] <shishio> hi what command do i use to open multiple files in GEDIT?
[04:11] <bug> 啊，说的中文好不好啊。。。。。。。。。。。。
[04:11] <binarymutant> shishio, gedit file & gedit file & etc.
[04:12] <shishio> binary mutant like : gedit file1.php file2.php file3.php
[04:13] <Newfie_rich> hey all, I wanna add a folder to my %PATH how do i do this?
[04:13] <binarymutant> shishio, gedit file1 & gedit file2 & gedit file3
[04:13] <scunizi> How do I use ls to list all files in "my music" with the extension of wma? (there are multiple directories in my music
[04:14] <Dr_willis> scunizi,  ls -R | grep wma      Is one way. :)
[04:14] <binarymutant> scunizi, ls my\ music/*.wma
[04:14] <wartalker> how to change the gnome-panel font
[04:14] <Dr_willis> if you want a rescursibe listing.. that is what needs  the exta work.
[04:14] <shishio> binarymutant: ok thanks
[04:14] <arvind_khadri> scunizi: ls -R my\ music/*.wma
[04:14] <shingalated> what could I put in a script for an X session that would only use one monitor rather than TwinView that I have set up on my main session?
[04:16] <deserteagle> hello all
[04:16] <shingalated> also.. is that even possibel
[04:16] <deserteagle> could someone help me figure out why my system won't boot up anymore?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> shingalated,  i dont think its clear what you are wanting to do.. but with linux. its almost always possible. :)
[04:16] <scunizi> Dr_willis: binarymutant thanks..
[04:16] <Dexi> UH-OH... back to that problem with firefox loading in fullscreen again... i thought disabling greasemonkey fixed it, but i was wrong
[04:16] <deserteagle> i rebooted after using a puppy linux live CD and now x server won't show anything
[04:17] <Dexi> I dont suppose anyone knows how to fix firefox loading into fullscreen when you open an outside link or first launch it?
[04:17] <shingalated> Dr_willis I want to add another session to the GDM sessions list that will only use one of my monitors rather than TwinView
[04:17] <scunizi> arvind_khadri: binarymutant ls m\ music/*.wma doesn't work
[04:17] <Newfie_rich> can someone please help me edit my &PATH
[04:17] <bug> Bug!
[04:17] <arvind_khadri> scunizi: ls -R
[04:17] <bug> ..............
[04:18] <bug> kick .
[04:18] <bug> me of kkk?
[04:18] <durt> !path
[04:18] <scunizi> arvind_khadri: that works.. but I've been trying to limit to wma files only.. grep seemed to work right..
[04:18] <oasis2> Hi, I have a Canon IXUS 860 IS.  I tried to enable F-Spot to automatically import photos when I connect it, but it keeps say it can't access the device, it's already in use.
[04:18] <durt> !$path
[04:18] <bug> 没有中文的说吗？
[04:18] <oasis2> Also, somebody asked me to run /usr/bin/gphoto2 --list-files and I got the same error
[04:18] <oasis2> Would anybody know what is using the device?
[04:18] <jero> Newfie_rich - i think sudo vim /etc/environment  might help you
[04:19] <scunizi> arvind_khadri: as in ls -R | grep wma
[04:19] <arvind_khadri> scunizi:  fine
[04:19] <crumple> does openoffice.org 3.0 handle SVGs with transparent backgrounds correctly?  because 2.4 certainly doesn't...
[04:19] <Dr_willis> shingalated,  well its proberly doable.. you can make a whatever.desktop session to run whaever command ya need. But im not sure where you would tell X what xorg.conf file to use specifically. (its doable from the command line)  Or you could 'cheat' and make the whatever.desktop session copy some xorg.conf.notwinview to xorg.conf , then launch i guess.. but that may not work.
[04:19] <|Fenix|> hola a todos
[04:19] <m00nknight> hey?
[04:20] <scunizi> crumple: I think it is suppose to
[04:20] <bug> Has speaks Chinese?
[04:20] <bug> Has speaks Chinese?
[04:20] <bug> Has speaks Chinese?
[04:20] <FloodBot1> bug: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:20] <|Fenix|> que tal va la cosa por aqui?
[04:20] <seacnboy> hello , guys , i got some Garbled message from hotmail, what should i do?
[04:20] <fearful> hey how can i turn off the screen saver, i already unclicked activate screensaver when computer is idled
[04:20] <crumple> scunizi: k, ill try it.  thanks!
[04:20] <bug> Has speaks Chinese?...
[04:20] <|Fenix|> que coñño es este canal
[04:20] <scunizi> seacnboy: it's either encrypted or spam.. delete
[04:20] <|Fenix|> nadie habla español?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> !cn
[04:20] <durt> !cn | bug
[04:21] <|Fenix|> nadie de aqui habla español?
[04:21] <bug> YES
[04:21] <binarymutant> !es | |Fenix|
[04:21] <scunizi> !es | |Fenix|:
[04:21] <|Fenix|> ok gracias amigos
[04:22] <shingalated> Dr_willis, Wouldn't I have to restart X in the script to switch to the new .conf and in doing so be brought right back to the GDM login?
[04:22] <binarymutant> is ext4 stable enough to use in production?
[04:22] <WIGGMPk> Is screenlets help to taboo for this channel?
[04:22] <WIGGMPk> I guess if I have to ask that, it is, aint?
[04:23] <binarymutant> !patience | WIGGMPk
[04:23] <bug> Not?
[04:23] <scunizi> binarymutant: wait for Jaunty
[04:23] <Dr_willis> shingalated,  ive seen examples/guides on the Gentoo Nvidia  wiki pages where they some how passed  a argrument/option to the  X  system and used different 'sections'  of a xorg.conf for various setups. (one to enable tv out, one to enable 2 monitors, one for 1 monitor) - Im just not sure how ya integerate it with gdm.
[04:24] <WIGGMPk> binarymutant: im not sure why you just ubottu'ed me patience.. I was kinda talking to myself about asking about screenlets in this channel..
[04:24] <Dr_willis> shingalated,  so they had one large (complex?) xorg.conf - and dident need to use several of them.
[04:24] <scunizi> shingalated: if you're looking for dual monitors nvidia-settings makes it pretty painless after you mess with it for a while..
[04:24] <shingalated> Dr_willis, I'll see if I can find that in the gentoo wiki
[04:24] <binarymutant> scunizi, I was thinking of dist-upgrading to Jaunty but wanted to make sure ext4 wouldn't have any file loss, do you know if it does?
[04:25] <judget_> Good evening
[04:25] <wartalker> how to only change the gnome panel font
[04:25] <Dr_willis> shingalated,  yea - some of the gentoo wiki pages are VERY VERY detailed :) they are not scared to dig in.
[04:25] <scunizi> binarymutant: I seem to remember reading today that ext4 is now listed as stable..
[04:25] <deserteagle> help! i rebooted after using a puppy linux live CD and now x server won't show anything
[04:25] <binarymutant> scunizi, ty
[04:25] <judget_> I have been googling invalid dts/pts combination has there been a fix for this?
[04:25] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  from what im hearing in #fedora-classroom - the fedora people consider it mature enough to use in their next release also.
[04:25] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, ty
[04:25] <deserteagle> ubuntu won't even play the intro bongos
[04:26] <deserteagle> :( help
[04:26] <bug> Will have will speak Chinese?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  Not that I  know how TRUE this is.. but when in doubt.. dont use it i guess. :)
[04:26] <Newfie_rich> I gone and done it now lol.... wiped out my %PATH all together by mistake, and now I can't run any commands in terminal
[04:26] <scunizi> binarymutant: I'll second that for Dr_willis
[04:26] <binarymutant> wartalker, its under System->Preferences->Appearance in the Font tab
[04:26] <ubi> jó reggelt mindenkinek :)
[04:27] <Dr_willis> ive not kept up with ext4 or what features it has that i even need.
[04:27] <scunizi> Dr_willis: speed
[04:27] <binarymutant> scunizi, +1 for speed
[04:27] <gbear14275> hey guys... how do you disable an account from logging in?  Isn't there a flag that can be set that prevents login?
[04:27] <wartalker> binarymutant: i want to only change the panel font, and not change others
[04:28] <redvamp128> ext4: I read the specs on it and right now-- from what I understand is that grub has some issues booting ubuntu off it .. (last what I read about it)
[04:28] <muaniezzzzzzzzzz> hyyyyyyyyy
[04:28] <MaxRide> gbear14275: usermod <logon> -L  (I think)
[04:28] <tritium> gbear14275: passwd has a -l switch to "lock"
[04:28] <binarymutant> redvamp128, really :(
[04:28] <MaxRide> tritium: Thanks,...I'm here to study...but I knew it was <something> -l
[04:29] <tritium> MaxRide: :)
[04:29] <muaniezzzzzzzzzz> hyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[04:29] <WIGGMPk> I am using Intrepid Ibex (2.6.27-11-generic (amd64)) and every time I load, the screenlets that I have active are not automatically going to the widget layer.. is anyone else experiencing this? Is this a problem with screenlets or the compiz?? Any help is appreciated, even though its not ubuntu specific.
[04:29] <tritium> muaniezzzzzzzzzz: please stop
[04:29] <gbear14275> MaxRide: tritium:  I need the account to still be able to pass mail... just want to disable login... that the correct thing?
[04:29] <redvamp128> binarymutant:  and found a post that says you have to recompile your kernel to use it-- plus -- you have to put the boot on a ext2 or ext3 then a redirect..
[04:30] <wayStead> hey i installed ubuntu in virtualbox, and im having trouble getting it to use my native monitor resolution
[04:30] <tritium> gbear14275: I can't speak for mail.  That switch locks the account.  Please "man passwd" for more details.
[04:30] <jrib>  /b #weechat
[04:30] <gbear14275> thank you
[04:30] <jero> wayStead - mount the vboxadditions and install them. then all works
[04:30] <binarymutant> redvamp128, you have to custom compile a kernel? the one in Jaunty won't work with it? I thought that was the big feature of Jaunty :(
[04:31] <tritium> wayStead: the host OS, not ubuntu in a virtual machine, would be where you want to look at monitor resolution
[04:31] <orly_owl> http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ is there a step by step guide for this?
[04:31] <jero> wayStead - without the additions your mouse will be clumsy and the graphics slow, plus it wont autoadjust your resolution
[04:31] <Flannel> orly_owl: On setting up bootchart?  Install it.
[04:31] <mikeshollen> Can someone please help me get my microphone working?
[04:32] <orly_owl> Flannel: no, on getting an eee pc to boot hardy in 5 seconds
[04:32] <wayStead> jero - thks
[04:32] <binarymutant> orly_owl, it was a hack, he booted into run levels before they were done loading
[04:32] <orly_owl> is that bad?
[04:33] <karoshi> anyone here good with ati graphics? im having a strange problem
[04:33] <binarymutant> orly_owl, could be it's really all about what you need
[04:33] <redvamp128> binarymutant:  though I would ask that about a feature in #ubuntu+1
[04:34] <binarymutant> redvamp128, good idea thanks
[04:34] <kindofabuzz> XP box can see ubuntu shares but ubuntu cannot see XP shares. no firewall on XP. what could be the problem
[04:34] <kindofabuzz> ?
[04:34] <ndogbosok> kindofabuzz: samba installed?
[04:34] <moonwatcher> Thanks for the help guys
[04:34] <moonwatcher> i solved all my problems
[04:35] <kindofabuzz> ndogbosok, yeah, but you don't need samba to see window shares, just samba for windows to see linux shares
[04:36] <mikeshollen> want to buy some fixing my microphone love!
[04:36] <nyaa> if I'm using raid 0 for speed, can I do that with a software raid?
[04:36] <zXstanyXz> kindofabuzz: what version of xp do you have? cos it sounds like the problem is prolly on the xp side of things
[04:37] <adubz> does anyone know how to fix the xmms minimize error
[04:37] <jigp> ubuntu philippines
[04:37] <jigp> .ubuntu philippines
[04:37] <kindofabuzz> zXstanyXz, home i think
[04:37] <jigp> !ubuntu philippines
[04:37] <kindofabuzz> not sure it isn't mine
[04:37] <binarymutant> adubz, xmms? I didn't think it was still around
[04:37] <deserteagle> help! i rebooted after using a puppy linux live CD and now x server won't show anything
[04:37] <jigp> -ubuntu philippines
[04:37] <jigp> !help
[04:37] <adubz> it is
[04:37] <orly_owl> so is there a guide anywhere?
[04:37] <adubz> you have to add repository i just got it
[04:38] <jigp> hello how to join in ubuntu philippines channel?
[04:38] <adubz> dont know how well support is but ill still be rocking it as my mp3 player
[04:38] <binarymutant> orly_owl, never seen a guide for it sorry :(
[04:38] <MaxRide> nyaa: Please note: If you use raid 0....remember to back up often.
[04:38] <nyaa> !phillipine
[04:38] <CarlFK> how reliable is ntfs-3g? (and if it is as good as http://www.ntfs-3g.org says, how did that happen?)
[04:38] <kindofabuzz> smb://192.168.1.100 i get nothing
[04:38] <orly_owl> ok
[04:38] <zXstanyXz> are you able to see the xp box thru the network from ubuntu?
[04:38] <jigp> !help ubuntu ph
[04:38] <nyaa> MaxRide: thats good advice, but I want to know if a software raid will give me the speed benefit with raid 0
[04:38] <Newfie_rich> I am trying to add this to my %PATH can someone help? /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/
[04:38] <jigp> !help ubuntu philippines
[04:38] <tritium> jigp: please stop.  /join# ubuntu-ph
[04:38] <MaxRide> nyaa: Probably not.
[04:38] <scunizi> !ph
[04:38] <jigp> sorry
[04:38] <tritium> err, /join #ubuntu-ph
[04:39] <jigp> thanks
[04:39] <kindofabuzz> zXstanyXz, no that's the problem, wait there it goes, smb://ip worked
[04:39] <nyaa> MaxRide know any good guides for making hardware raids work with ubuntu?
[04:39] <kindofabuzz> but why didn't it auto see it all?
[04:39] <MaxRide> nyaa:  In fact...just plan no. Software raid uses system resources where-as hardware raids do not.
[04:39] <jero> nyaa - with a fast cpu, a software raid0 is just as fast.
[04:39] <MaxRide> nyaa: With the proper hardware, the raid is set up in the cards BIOS (Not really seen by the OS)...IE: Dell servers
[04:39] <wayStead> jero - i am getting a "command not found" error when i tried to run the Vbox additions executable
[04:40] <wayStead> jero - i had to use sudo since it wanted to be run as admin
[04:40] <nyaa> jero - so I'll get the same advantage for speed? (if with a fast processor?)
[04:40]  * rlee just turns off his fakeraid in bios and uses dmraid
[04:40] <jero> wayStead - note the its VBo... with capital B
[04:40] <scunizi> wayStead: in ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:40] <wayStead> jero - nvm i had to do ./VBox
[04:41] <wayStead> why is that anyway ? lol kinda annoying
[04:41] <jero> nyaa yes, hardware raids have other benefits. You do not require any drivers. Most onboard raid0 solutions are just software raids backed up with some hardware for setting up the raid
[04:41] <nyaa> maxride but its not that way from what I've seen, everything in linux is showing 2 drives instead of 1
[04:41] <binarymutant> wayStead, ./ is like sh, it runs a program
[04:41] <muaniezzzzzzzzzz> hhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyy
[04:41] <nyaa> jero thanks =)
[04:42] <wayStead> binarymutant - can i use csh with ubuntu ?
[04:42] <deserteagle> help! i rebooted after using a puppy linux live CD and now x server won't show anything
[04:42] <binarymutant> wayStead, yes, I might not sure how csh runs things though, it might run thing the same way as bash but not sure
[04:43] <binarymutant> I'm not sure*
[04:43] <MaxRide> jero: What's your experience with RAIDS and Ubuntu? Mine has been to set up the RAID in the card and the BIOS takes care of the rest (Although, I think the OS still sees the physical disks and knows it's a raid).
[04:43] <ArtVandalae> Hi guys, does anyone get a "Packages not trusted" when trying to install Mercurial? (aptitude install mercurial)
[04:44] <binarymutant> ArtVandalae, what repo are you using?
[04:44] <ArtVandalae> binarymutant, only the defaults :\ that's why I ask
[04:44] <bdelin881> how do i use chmod to 775 a folder recursively?
[04:44] <ArtVandalae> bdelin881, chmod -R 775 folder
[04:44] <binarymutant> bdelin881, -r or -R probably
[04:45] <bdelin881> hmm, doesn't seem like it's working
[04:45] <Bobblybook> can anyone guide me through making a startup script?
[04:45] <jero> MaxRide - if it is a real hardware raid, then the OS doesnt need to know anything. It just sees a single disk
[04:45] <binarymutant> ArtVandalae, do you have the ubuntu-keyring and debian-keyring installed?
[04:46] <GreenHorn> hey could someone give me an idea what command I should be using in terminal to take a lircd.conf file from my desktop and copying it over the current one in ect/lirc ?
[04:46] <deserteagle> everyone's got a working system... except me! please help
[04:46] <GreenHorn> ubuntu 8.10 fyi
[04:46] <deserteagle> all i have is a black screen
[04:46] <wayStead> can someone show me how to use csh with ubuntu ?
[04:46] <jero> MaxRide - on those semi hardware onboard raids, your OS just needs to have the driver. Pure software raids i never tried. I know OsX allows you to create software raids right in the partitioning process
[04:46] <binarymutant> GreenHorn, sudo cp Desktop/lircd.conf /etc/lirc/
[04:46] <GreenHorn> if i could help i would desert first day here :(
[04:46] <ThePlaneskeeper> does anyone know why after the most recent updates in 8.10, it will not allow my screens to be set to 1920x1200 resolution?  It will only allow up to 1600x1200 resolution at this time.
[04:46] <Dr_willis> GreenHorn,  to copy fles from one system to another over the lan.. scp is very handy.. You need to insall ssh on both systems I think. (or at least the one you are copying to)
[04:46] <GreenHorn> thank you binarymutant I'll try now
[04:46] <tritium> wayStead: why are you wanting csh over bash?
[04:47] <scunizi> wayStead: why not just sudo sh ./VBox<yada yada>
[04:47] <MaxRide> nyaa: jero: I think you're going to want to invest in a proper RAID card to see an advantage. It sounds like you really want the performance increase, so it'll be worth it.
[04:47] <deserteagle> thanks GreenHorn =\
[04:47] <RussM> GreenHorn, "sudo cp /etc/lirc/lircd.conf /etc/lirc/lircd.conf; sudo cp ~/lircd.conf /etc/lirc/lircd.conf"
[04:47] <WyWy_> Hello
[04:47] <rlee> what's the best price to performance for raid cards?
[04:47] <rlee> like $100?
[04:47] <jero> MaxRide - the advantage i see is that you do not have to setup drivers, otherwise modern cpus are fast enough to handle software raids easily
[04:48] <RussM> GreenHorn, Oops, the first one should have been making a backup, but I forgot to change the second filename.
[04:48] <MaxRide> nyaa: Fairly cheap (for the cheap stuff)...Less than $100 if I remember correctly.....However, with RAID 0 I lost 800GB of data...so that's your 'fair warning'.
[04:48] <rlee> ouch
[04:48] <atom^x> deserteagle, ctl+alt+F1 may get you to a text login
[04:48] <GreenHorn> ut oh
[04:48] <GreenHorn> thats actually ok
[04:48] <deserteagle> atom^x: it doesn't :(
[04:48] <rlee> i remember losing three monthes work due to thrashing on my swap disk
[04:48] <GreenHorn> i don't really need a back up already have one I believe
[04:49] <GreenHorn> so should I just stick with this command? sudo cp /etc/lirc/lircd.conf /etc/lirc/lircd.conf; sudo cp ~/lircd.conf /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[04:49] <jero> always have a large usb/eSata/firewire HDD with a powerswitch for the backup is my thinking
[04:49] <MaxRide> rlee: It was all my anime / movies. I had a 1TB Iomega external disk....be wary of Iomega...in total I've lost more than 2TB by buying from them.
[04:49] <deserteagle> atom^x: just before launching X i goto terminal 1 and i can log in... as soon as X launches, screen goes blank
[04:49] <jero> backup and turn it off, protecting it against any kind of attack as well
[04:49] <perlsyntax> Does anyone use pydev for eclipse?
[04:50] <RussM> GreenHorn, The general form is "sudo cp sourcefile destfile"
[04:50] <perlsyntax> i can't get it to update.
[04:50] <perlsyntax> odd
[04:50] <GreenHorn> yeehaw! thanks, that worked like magic. believe me I was trying everything. just what I needed
[04:50] <perlsyntax> anyone?
[04:50] <atom^x> deserteagle, can you choose recovery mode from grub?
[04:50] <perlsyntax> hello
[04:50] <Bobblybook> can someone help me with creating a startup script. I've got one but it's not working like I would like
[04:51] <wayStead> i have been using csh in all my classes so i thought it would be better to stick to it
[04:51] <WyWy> Hi
[04:51] <GreenHorn> one more quick question, is LIRC going to recognize my Phillips eHome receiver right off the bat or do I need a conf file for that as well?
[04:51] <scunizi> What platform uses csh?
[04:51] <lucax> hello, im tryin to get a swap on fstab i type options like none swap sw 0 0 is that correct?
[04:51] <Newfie_rich> Can someone PRETTY PLEASE help me add a directory to my PATH
[04:52] <Newfie_rich> I can't figure it out
[04:52] <jero> Newfie_rich - i told you - sudo vim /etc/environment
[04:52] <AndrewGearhart> I'm attempting to obtain the linux headers for my kernel which 'uname -r' says is 2.6.24-18-generic ... but I'm getting 'Package linux-headers-2.6.24-18-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.'
[04:52] <lucax> swap options on fstab could some on check options please?
[04:53] <Newfie_rich> jero: thanks, you message must of got lost in the chat :D
[04:53] <rlee> Maxride: thanx for the warning
[04:54]  * rlee prefers brand name HDs
[04:54] <MaxRide> rlee: Sure thing. =)(
[04:54] <jero> Newfie_rich - in 8.10 there is a bug with this however. it requires me to log out and in to get it working. In 8.04 it works fine
[04:54] <scunizi> http://pastebin.com/f649f49aa ... lucax.. this is my fstab.. uuid can be discovered with sudo blkid
[04:55] <uspenok> does any one knows howto check some ip port, for proxy in bash
[04:56] <AndrewGearhart> what kernel should I have with ubuntu 64bit right now to be up-to-date?
[04:56] <Newfie_rich> jero: just edited it guessing i am going to have to restart for it to take effect eh?
[04:56] <jero> Newfie_rich log out and in should be enough
[04:56] <ikonia> uspenok: bash is a shell it can't do that, you want something like nmap
[04:56] <jero> Newfie_rich - maybe not even that, just start a terminal and check $PATH
[04:56] <uspenok> ikonia: thx
[04:56] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. then on boot the latest kernel will be listed on top of the grub menu
[04:57] <jbu311> hi all, this may be a more hardware question but...when I download ubuntu is defaults to the i386 desktop version...is there not an x86 version?  I thought i386 refers to the 80386 chip...I also assume this bundle isn't optimized for my processor (intel core 2 quad)...is that righT?
[04:57] <GeffIsLegend> hey everyone , can you help me setup skype on my ubuntu install? it doesnt seem to be working
[04:57] <ikonia> !skype > GeffIsLegend
[04:57] <terr_> I want to send a live CD for ubuntu to a friend for her young son and then do a remote install.  I can do this via ssh - but is there a utility for the target machine to send the IP address back to my machine once its on the net?  I run static IP's
[04:57] <ikonia> terr_: how do you plan to do it over ssh ?
[04:58] <Flannel> jbu311: No, i386 is the generic term for the 32bit intel compatable processors.  the -generic kernel does all the optimizations for the processors.
[04:58] <GeffIsLegend> ii keep getting the error message "problem with audio playback"
[04:58] <AndrewGearhart> jbu311: you've got the right one... the intel c2q can also run 64bit ... but the i386 is what you probably want.
[04:58] <scunizi> jbu311: although it shows i386 .. the kernel discovers x86 code and uses it.
[04:58] <wayStead> will xubuntu run fine in vbox ?
[04:58] <jero> wayStead yes
[04:58] <scunizi> wayStead: sure
[04:58] <jero> wayStead 8.04 will run faster in it than 8.10
[04:58] <jbu311> Flannel, so when I compile the kernel, and it creates the kernel images for different architectures, it gives me a kernel for x86 and i386...should I then choose x86?
[04:59] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: that will update me... correct? I'm currently running with Intrepid... will that take me to something later (am I perhaps missing a kernel upgrade or something)?
[04:59] <wayStead> i googled around and people seem to state issues about problems with vboxadditions
[04:59] <Flannel> jbu311: Why are you compiling a kernel?
[04:59] <jbu311> Flannel, or choose i386?
[04:59] <ikonia> jbu311: why are you compiling th kernel ?
[04:59] <terr_> Also - I've looked at a few suggestions for small low power web servers and see new preicess from $199 for a fitPC up into the $400 range for an HP netbook 1000MI.  Are there any suggestions for cheaper used machines?
[04:59] <jbu311> Flannel, optimizing speed and space, more of a learning experience
[04:59] <ikonia> Flannel: too quick
[04:59] <terr_> ikonia I'll use ssh
[04:59] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: it will only update you on intrepid.. it won't take you to jaunty..
[04:59] <ikonia> terr_: how do you plan to use a gui installer ?
[04:59] <ikonia> terr_: your other question is hardware and not on topic in here
[04:59] <terr_> ikonia I don't want to use a gui installer.
[05:00] <Flannel> jbu311: You won't learn anything from compiling really.  You effectively push a button and the software takes care of the rest.  The -generic kernel does optimizations at runtime to take advantage of all of your processors abilities.
[05:00] <ikonia> terr_: so what would you run to install via ssh ?
[05:00] <terr_> ikonia suggest a channel for the hw please.
[05:00] <MaxRide> terr_:  I use "Sun Cobalts".  They are a bit of a security risk but they're generally cheap ($100 to $250) and VERY nice.
[05:00] <jero> wayStead You ll have to find out yourself i guess. doesnt take long to install anyway
[05:00] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: i'm trying to get vmware server working... and the problem that I'm having is that I can't locate the linux headers for my kernel
[05:00] <zXstanyXz> arvind_khadri: envyng worked :) thanks :)
[05:00] <terr_> ikonia all the instalelrs I've used to date are none gui
[05:00] <jbu311> Flannel, thanks
[05:00] <ikonia> terr_: on ubuntu ?
[05:00] <jbu311> thanks all
[05:00] <terr_> MaxRide: thanks - I'll take a look
[05:00] <ikonia> terr_: what command do you run to launch the installer ?
[05:00] <Bobblybook> Looking for help creating a startup script
[05:00] <Newfie_rich> jero: whats that command one last time? i edited it and still now dice
[05:01] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: ah.. why didn't you say so.. sudo apt-get install build-essential so vmware can build it's kernel mod.
[05:01] <deserteagle> atom^x: none of the utilities in the recovery mode helped :(
[05:01] <wayStead> jero - do you think it will run better than ubuntu in vbox, im having perormance problems with ubuntu
[05:01] <terr_> ikonia: I've never used ubuntu.  I currently run debian and on the other servers its red hat or OpenBSD
[05:01] <wayStead> dont really have a great comp
[05:01] <ScottG489> So every time I hibernate it says that there isnt enough swap and sends me back to a locked screen login. Right now I have 4GB of RAM and 4 GB of swap (which is probaby too much but the ubuntu swap page said that you should have as much or twice as much swap then you do RAM). I originally installed to have 1.5 gigs of swap but then followed the swap faq to make more (2.5 to make it 4 total). So anyways now when I swap it very
[05:01] <ScottG489> frequently says there isnt enough space. Its usually when I have quite a few programs open (or firefox with a lot of tabs) but I have checked my memory before using "free" before and after i tried to swap and the results were me having 3.4 gigs of RAM free and 3.0 gigs of swap free. So I dont understand how it could be telling me I didnt have enough swap free. Any help?
[05:01] <jero> wayStead - which version of Ubuntu did you use, and what cpu is it?
[05:01] <ikonia> terr_: ok - so you won't be able to install ubuntu via ssh
[05:01] <eyehatesludge> ive got a general computer question, if i installed the x86-64 version of ubuntu will ia64 versions of other operating systems install on my computer
[05:01] <ikonia> terr_: the ubuntu installer is gui based, and the non-gui installer is on a seperate cd that does not have ssh installed on it
[05:01] <terr_> ikonia: wht sort of crap is that?
[05:01] <wayStead> jero- i used 8.10 and using a penitum M 2.0 ghz 2gb ram (gave ubuntu 512mb)
[05:01] <ikonia> terr_: it's a home user desktop system
[05:02] <terr_> ikonia: I'll build my own CD
[05:02] <MaxRide> terr_: The server I just recommended you is configured via a browser...so it's easy to learn (If you can configure a WRT54G, then you can config this)....you can also console in and get the full linux experience
[05:02] <ScottG489> I have ubuntu 8.10
[05:02] <atom^x> deserteagle, perhaps rename xorg.conf to xorg.backup, ten rename xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf
[05:02] <terr_> MaxRide: I'll have a look... checking now.
[05:03] <jero> wayStead - then you want to use jeOS and do apt-get install Xorg, apt get install xdm, apt get install icewm  - jeOS 8.04 or 7.10 - 8.10 or 9.04 are SLOW!
[05:03] <jero> wayStead - also ubuntu 8.04 will be faster than 8.10
[05:03] <jero> in the vbox
[05:03] <MaxRide> terr_: By the way: What are your requirements?  HTML serving? Samba? FTP? E-Mail?
[05:03] <deserteagle> atom^x: now at least the X cursor shows up in the middle of the screen (won't move when i move the mouse) any sugestions?
[05:04] <terr_> MaxRide: all of the above
[05:04] <GeffIsLegend> none of those links are helping me with skype, i already tried all the support links and i still keep getting "problem with audio playback" error
[05:04] <atom^x> deserteagle, you might try to reconfigure X as well, xorg-conf i think
[05:04] <outbackwifi> !hi
[05:04] <MaxRide> terr_: Well, Cobalts do FTP, E-mail, Web sites, DNS, ETC....I think you'll need to do some hacking (well, installing) for Samba.
[05:04] <jero> Newfie_rich - maybe you want to do it with gedit then - try sudo gedit /etc/environment    -- replace gedit with your prefered editor like vim vi nano etc
[05:05] <wayStead> jero - i dont get what u said about jeOS,. whats apt-get ?
[05:05] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: no dice "Package linux-headers-2.6.24-18-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package linux-headers-2.6.24-18-generic has no installation candidate"
[05:05] <deserteagle> atom^x: through the recovery mode or live cd?
[05:05] <terr_> MaxRide: I'll install everything from scratch.. just looking for HW suggestions
[05:05] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: open synaptic and search for it there.. synaptic is in System>Admin
[05:06] <atom^x> deserteagle, i would try recovery mode...
[05:06] <MaxRide> terr_: This hardware may not like that.  No CD-ROM or anything...It's fairly picky.
[05:06] <wayStead> jero - i dont get what u said about jeOS,. whats apt-get ?
[05:06] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: ah. I see the problem.
[05:06] <jero> wayStead - jeOS 8.04 is an about 100mb iso which installs a minimal system without any display manager/environment, but with network access . With apt-get install <package.deb> you can load your own packages and create a lightweight environment
[05:06] <linux_guy> I would like to pin a subfolder from my home folder to the 'Places' directory that you see in the panel.  how can I do this?
[05:06] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: ?
[05:06] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: uname -r is reporting a different kernel
[05:06] <terr_> MaxRide: then I'll say next
[05:06] <linux_guy> ex:  Home, Pictures, video, music, "new folder"
[05:07] <MaxRide> terr_: I also like Dell servers.
[05:07] <MaxRide> terr_: Parts are abundent on Ebay and they aren't very expensive.
[05:07] <jero> wayStead - the packages you need for a lightweight icewm environment i listed to you - Xorg , xdm, icewm - then reboot after you got those with sudo apt-get install
[05:07] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: uname -r = 2.6.24-18-generic while build-essential is doing linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic
[05:07] <terr_> MaxRide: Hard to say... generally I don't like Dell.
[05:07] <Kokloco> Hi all
[05:07] <MaxRide> terr_: =/  Well. At my home I use an HP DL360....but HP servers are LOUD!
[05:07] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: you need to reboot into the new kernel
[05:08] <terr_> MaxRide: I have several machines here - jsut they are not small
[05:08] <linux_guy> navigate to parent folder and sudo mv new\ folder "location" ?
[05:08] <Kokloco> I noticed that OpenOffice has been released in version 3.0. The one I have installed is 2.4, and the Update Manager doesnt tell me anything about it, anyone can help me please?
[05:08] <terr_> MaxRide: HP netbook 1000MI  $387 new
[05:08] <nickrud> linux_guy, navigate to the folder, select bookmark -> add bookmark
[05:08] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: ? how do I "reboot into the new kernel"?
[05:08] <MaxRide> terr_: Is this a test platform?
[05:09] <terr_> Is there a channel which specializes in small form factor HW?
[05:09] <terr_> MaxRide: nope - commercial product & runs on Ubuntu.  Impressive
[05:09] <Kokloco> In UButu reposteries I just can find the 2.4, is there any reaso for this?
[05:09] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: the .27-7 kernel looks to be the newest..so just reboot and on the grub menu you should be able to choose.. it's usually the top on the list
[05:09] <nickrud> Kokloco, it should be in the next release; an ubuntu release's packages are 'frozen' on release, and only replaced for major bug reasons
[05:09] <MaxRide> terr_: ....You are making a commercial product?
[05:09] <linux_guy> nickrud, i am officially embarrassed
[05:10] <nickrud> linux_guy, heh. I won't ask you to change your nick ;p
[05:10] <terr_> MaxRide: not at this point - HP has.. 7 watts - netbook
[05:10] <Kokloco> ok,
[05:10] <Kokloco> I as afaraid my system was not working properly
[05:10] <linux_guy> *linux_guy is now known as Captain Obvious
[05:10] <Kokloco> I was afaraid my system was not working properly
[05:10] <nickrud> rflol
[05:10] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: ah... I think I know the problem.... the menu... I had some issues initially... I have multiple drives in my system and it was selecting the wrong drive... so I've been hesitant to let the upgrades change menu.lst (I believe it is)
[05:10] <joshjtl> hi, anyone know how I would go about adding directories to computer:///  found in Places>Computer menu
[05:11] <wayStead> jero - thks again for the help
[05:11] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: been there done that..
[05:11] <Kokloco> nickrud, and when is the new realease comming?
[05:11] <linux_guy> nickrud, thanks man
[05:11] <jero> wayStead good luck with it, VMs are lots of fun
[05:11] <nickrud> joshjtl, only by adding new devices/partitions, that's it's purpose
[05:11] <MaxRide> terr_: Well, the best I can tell you is that if you're trying to run a server on a netbook...than any old desktop will work.
[05:11] <nickrud> !jaunty | Kokloco
[05:11] <jero> wayStead and you can carry them with you on your next system OS independend
[05:11] <terr_> MaxRide: I already run on old desktops and they work greate
[05:11] <Kokloco> nickrud, ok thanks
[05:11] <joshjtl> nickrud: but isnt it a something.desktop file?
[05:12] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: so, based on the fact that i've probably screwed up the menu.lst.... what do I do now? /me raises his arms in frustration with himself for doing system updates late at night
[05:12] <MaxRide> terr_: I'll bet....I'd say stick with them.
[05:12] <nickrud> joshjtl, I don't believe so; but can't swear to it.
[05:12] <joshjtl> because if it is, that can be easily edited
[05:12] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: there is a command .. something like sudo update-grub. but I'm not sure what it is exactly
[05:13] <joshjtl> does anyone have a strong preference of either banshee, or rhythmbox?
[05:13] <joshjtl> I'm trying to decide which to use
[05:13] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: that appears to be it
[05:13] <terr_> MaxRide: I might have to.. but I looked at that UBUNTU netbook and it got me thinking.  Even a computer on a chip like a 133mHz class machine will suffice
[05:14] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: cool
[05:14] <nazmul> hh
[05:14] <MaxRide> terr_: In the Navy, we had webservers on laptops (Seriously....desinged that way)....so it should work.
[05:14] <Titan8990> terr_: not for ubuntu... some linux distros
[05:14] <majortool> I have a laptop that uses hardware signals to determine if the earphone jack has something plugged in.  It's not working in Linux.  Anyone know about this issue?
[05:14] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:14] <MaxRide> designed*
[05:14] <joshjtl> !ubottu: banshee
[05:15] <joshjtl> !banshee
[05:15] <Titan8990> majortool: linux uses alsa, open source drivers, they are not the same as the closed source drivers in windows
[05:15] <Titan8990> !alsa | majortool
[05:15] <majortool> Titan8990, I know about also.  This is a hardware signal issue.  This probably has little to do with alsa.  I have sound through the speakers.
[05:16] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: is there a good way for me to determine which drive (hd0,4) or (hd1,4) is the one I'm currently using?
[05:16] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: check the link I gave you.. It has a whole run down on the how to's.
[05:16] <ScottG489> I have ubuntu 8.10. So every time I hibernate it says that there isnt enough swap and sends me back to a locked screen login. Right now I have 4GB of RAM and 4 GB of swap (which is probaby too much but the ubuntu swap page said that you should have as much or twice as much swap then you do RAM). I originally installed to have 1.5 gigs of swap but then followed the swap faq to make more (2.5 to make it 4 total). So anyways now
[05:16] <ScottG489> when I swap it very frequently says there isnt enough space. Its usually when I have quite a few programs open (or firefox with a lot of tabs) but I have checked my memory before using "free" before and after i tried to swap and the results were me having 3.4 gigs of RAM free and 3.0 gigs of swap free. So I dont understand how it could be telling me I didnt have enough swap free. Any help?
[05:17] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: k, thanks. :-)
[05:17] <Titan8990> majortool: I thought you were referring the notification some windows drivers have when an audio device is connected
[05:17] <joshjtl> how can I make synaptic uninstall all dependencies installed by a particular application. So when I install something, then decide I don't want it, it removes those dependencies that were only installed because that app needed them.
[05:17] <Titan8990> joshjtl: sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:18] <Titan8990> joshjtl: that removes uneeded dependencies
[05:18] <joshjtl> Titan8990: is that an app? autoremove
[05:18] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: good luck.. I use to use vmware quite a bit until I had issues with one of the versions that just wouldn't work.. so I switched to virtualbox.. oh by the way.. install dkms  .. it will help with kernel upgrades
[05:18] <majortool> Titan8990, yes that is what I am talking about.  Alsa is the driver that facilitates audio connectivity to the kernel.  I don't believe it handles signals for plugged in hardware directly.
[05:18] <kindofabuzz> joshjtl, built into aptitude
[05:18] <Titan8990> joshjtl: open the terminal and copy and paste that
[05:18] <skate2> what does <super> mean in gnome keyboard shortcut terms?
[05:18] <joshjtl> Titan8990: I don't just run commands without knowing what they are... I'm no newb
[05:19] <constantine> hi all
[05:19] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: will virtualbox run an existing vmx?
[05:19] <nickrud> skate2, the windows key
[05:19] <mikeshollen> windows key skate
[05:19] <kindofabuzz> joshjtl, man apt-get =)
[05:19] <joshjtl> but now I know
[05:19] <joshjtl> kindofabuzz: uh I know what apt-get is
[05:19] <mikeshollen> skate2: next to alt
[05:19] <joshjtl> I was asking about something else
[05:19] <Titan8990> majortool: yes, that is handled by alsa modules as well, the most common in snd_hda_intel
[05:19] <kindofabuzz> joshjtl, it how you install stuff
[05:19] <kindofabuzz> from repos
[05:19] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: I had issues with the.. never followed up on it to figure out. so I just reintalled creating new vm's
[05:19] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: because honestly... this entire adventure is so I can boot XP to run Civilization 3 Complete!
[05:19] <esworp> Is there a tool that I can see EXIF info from photos for ubuntu?  does gimp do it?
[05:19] <kindofabuzz> joshjtl, just run sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:19] <joshjtl> kindofabuzz: uh I know dude...
[05:20] <joshjtl> sheesh
[05:20] <Titan8990> joshjtl: I told you what it did..... it removes uneeded dependencies, if you would like to know more, type: man apt-get    into the terminal
[05:20] <kindofabuzz> joshjtl, well why did you just say you didn't know what it was?
[05:20] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: vbox has usb support if  you need it only if you install the version from thier website.
[05:20] <Titan8990> joshjtl: or also apt-get --help
[05:20] <joshjtl> wow
[05:20] <constantine> lol can i ask a q because I see like 6 being answered
[05:20] <joshjtl> I KNOW
[05:20] <dstrbdfrk1> acer aspire one...need wireless card help
[05:20] <prince_jammys> ha
[05:20] <scunizi> AndrewGearhart: vbox is lighter weight.. prettier.. easier.. etc.. vmware has a lot that you won't use.
[05:20] <ABoba> dstrbdfrk1, go to www.aspireoneuser.com, they have ubuntu forums
[05:21] <constantine> I'm as new as it gets in ubuntu.......I'm tryin to get the visual effects to work but they aren't
[05:21] <ABoba> dstrbdfrk1: lots of wireless help
[05:21] <fr500> constantine: what video card?
[05:21] <Bobblybook> need help creating a script to run at startup, a bit lost..
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  what its supposed to do exactly?
[05:22] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: definitely what I saw with vmware server... seems like it would be cool... but not something I really actually need... I just need occassional access to the dark ages (when I used windows because I didn't know about Linux)
[05:22] <nexxt_> Anyone around to help with Ubuntu 8.10 sound issue?
[05:22] <Bobblybook> modprobe 2 modules and echo 1 to a file
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  the /etc/rc.local file can do that easially enough
[05:22] <Titan8990> Bobblybook: there is a config file for loading modules
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  but modules can be loaded automatically from a differnt method/file also.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !module
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. what is that factoid..
[05:23] <musikgoat|main> !modules
[05:23] <prince_jammys> try 'modules'
[05:23] <prince_jammys> there
[05:23] <Bobblybook> Titan8990: is that what Dr_willis is talking about?
[05:23] <nexxt_> Anyone around to help with Ubuntu 8.10 sound issue? Lost sound after 4 months of sound working
[05:23] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis: I'll take a look at that file
[05:23] <Dr_willis> THeres some 'autoload' module file in /etc/
[05:23] <nickrud> Dr_willis, /etc/modules
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  then theres /etc/rc.local to auto-run stuff No sudo needed
[05:24] <ABoba> nexxt_: any hints on what the problem may be?
[05:24] <Titan8990> Bobblybook: yes, and nickrud posted the file
[05:24] <nexxt_> cb@zomg:~$ alsamixer
[05:24] <nexxt_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:25] <nam_> 22
[05:25] <constantine> I have an Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family....everest says
[05:25] <Titan8990> !alsa | nexxt_
[05:25] <nexxt_> in the sound applet i try test ( there all on autoselect )
[05:25] <nexxt_> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Failed to connect: Connection refused
[05:25] <nexxt_> Titan8990 i have reinstalled it twice
[05:26] <nickrud> someone needs to run a 4 week course on alsa troubleshooting for helpers
[05:26] <Titan8990> nexxt_: reinstalled what?
[05:26] <nexxt_> alsa
[05:26] <nexxt_> gstream
[05:26] <nexxt_> alsa-oss
[05:26] <Titan8990> nexxt_: what card?
[05:26] <nexxt_> reltek
[05:26] <nexxt_> sec
[05:26] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  often it seems.. eithr it works from the start... or is totally unsupported/wont work.. :(  Ive been lucky heh
[05:26] <Titan8990> nexxt_: post the lscpi line
[05:26] <nickrud> Dr_willis, I'm sure you
[05:27] <nam_> hi every body
[05:27] <nickrud> 've watched the red man fix just about every issue he's come across, almost casually.
[05:27] <fr500> constantine: ??
[05:27] <nexxt_> Titan lsmod?
[05:27] <GiggleSquirts> hey guys, how do I install skype?
[05:27] <Titan8990> nexxt_: lspci
[05:27] <Torikun> GiggleSquirts: skype.com
[05:27] <GiggleSquirts> aha
[05:27] <prince_jammys> !skype | GiggleSquirts
[05:27] <GiggleSquirts> not a package?
[05:27] <Titan8990> nexxt_: lspci | grep audio
[05:28] <Torikun> GiggleSquirts: skype.com has packages
[05:28] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis: OK, in rc.local: "In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution bits." Is it enabled by default, or do I need to change something?
[05:28] <GiggleSquirts> k, thanks
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  its enabled by default..
[05:28] <nexxt_> GSF1200S:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller
[05:29] <Looter> anyone alive in here?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Looter,  1000+ people
[05:29] <constantine> Constantine: under video adapter it says 82945G Chipset Family and Intel GMA 950 Accelerator
[05:29] <MaxRide> Looter: Always alive.
[05:29] <Looter> I have a problem with Vista and Ubuntu in a dualboot configuration.......
[05:29] <MaxRide> Looter: Although, I think there was just a split or something.
[05:29] <Looter> two separate hard drives.
[05:29] <Torikun> If anyone is looking for Norton Ghost solutions for Linux, send me a direct message
[05:30] <Looter> I agree (About teh split) dropping like flies
[05:30] <Titan8990> nexxt_: lsmod | grep snd_atiixp
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Torikun,  theres used to be an app  g4linux I think. it was called.
[05:30] <MaxRide> Looter: I think it's local to Maryland.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Torikun,  it was a ghost-like clone.
[05:30] <Torikun> Dr_willis: I made a better solution
[05:30] <nexxt_> cb@zomg:~$ lsmod | grep snd_atiixp
[05:30] <nexxt_> cb@zomg:~$
[05:30] <nexxt_> nothin
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Torikun,  i tend to use mondo/mindi ages ago.
[05:30] <Torikun> http://rusher.webhop.org/wordpress/?page_id=210
[05:30] <nexxt_> nothing for "snd" either
[05:30] <Torikun> try that
[05:31] <Titan8990> nexxt_: snd are the alsa sound drivers....
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I tend to use linux inside virtualbox. :) easy to backup that way
[05:31] <Titan8990> nexxt_: modprobe snd_atiixp
[05:31] <ABoba> I tend to use windows inside vmware, easy to reset that way
[05:31] <dsmith_> anyone here use a toshiba L305, if so how did ubuntu turn out for you:?
[05:31] <nexxt_> Titan : done
[05:31] <Titan8990> nexxt_: modprobe snd_ac97_codec
[05:31] <constantine> fr500: Intel 82945G chip set video card
[05:32] <nexxt_> done
[05:32] <Titan8990> nexxt_: sudo alsaconf
[05:32] <nexxt_> root@zomg:~# lsmod | grep snd_atiixp
[05:32] <nexxt_> snd_atiixp             21388  0
[05:32] <nexxt_> snd_ac97_codec        101028  1 snd_atiixp
[05:32] <nexxt_> snd_pcm                78596  3 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[05:32] <nexxt_> snd                    56996  6 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[05:32] <nexxt_> snd_page_alloc         11400  2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm
[05:32] <FloodBot1> nexxt_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <AndrewGearhart> scunizi: here goes... rebooting. wish me luck on getting to the flipside!
[05:32] <Looter> I can boot from grub fine and the option for vista shows up there but when i click on teh vista optino in grub it just takes me to the vista boot loader.   There It lists Vista and XP (xp was on teh hard drive that Ubuntu has now been put on)  When I click on vista from the vista boot loader i get a winload.exe missing error.  I ve ran the repair off the cd and nothign.  I can moutn the vista drive from within ubuntu so I see all
[05:32] <Looter> properly dualboot
[05:32] <constantine> how do you get visual effects to work in ubuntu?
[05:33] <nexxt_> Titan alsaconf not found
[05:33] <arvind_khadri> constantine: compiz.... install it
[05:33] <arvind_khadri> !ccsm > constantine
[05:33] <jbmigel> !ccsm
[05:33] <Titan8990> what is the configuration command for alsa in ubuntu?
[05:33] <constantine> arvind and ubottu: looking at that lol but still learning how to install things
[05:34] <prince_jammys> constantine: sudo apt-get install name_of_package
[05:34] <Looter> anyone want to take a crack at my dualboot problem?
[05:34] <prince_jammys> (or use synaptic)
[05:35] <nexxt_> Titan : i ran into this problem before iduno
[05:35] <binarymutant> if I have a diff that includes a bunch of files in a directory how do I patch with this diff? how do I patch a directory
[05:35] <Titan8990> nexxt_: well, according the wiki page ubuntu doesn't need an alsaconf command after loading modules.... have you tested it?
[05:36] <arvind_khadri> constantine: you can use synaptic to install :)
[05:36] <arvind_khadri> !synaptic > constantine
[05:36] <nexxt_> titan yah same error when i try alsamixer
[05:37] <constantine> ubottu: thanks much
[05:38] <MaxRide> =)
[05:38] <binarymutant> nevermind my question sorry
[05:39] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis: ok one thing before I reboot and test it out: how would I call another script file from within rc.local? (It's a wpa_supplicant script, if that matters.)
[05:39] <nexxt_> root@zomg:/etc/init.d# aplay -l
[05:39] <nexxt_> aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  sh whatever.script   or '/path/to/whatever/script &'   note the &
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  you may want ' sh whatever.script &   '
[05:41] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis, so if my script is in /Documents/wifi/scriptname, it would look like:         sh /Documents/wifi/scriptname &
[05:41] <constantine> ok I ran simple-ccsm and went to custom and it rebooted me!
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  you SURE thtas the right path?  why sould you have a /DOcuments directory?  sure you dont mean /home/username/Documents/whatever ?
[05:41] <jhesketh_> What is a good distribution for the Asus Aspire One? Looking at the Ubuntu wiki there is a lot of terminal work required to get it going... is there an aspire derivative of ubuntu?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> jhesketh_,  that eeebuntu works well for me.. and the AcerAspireOne Puppy variant also works well.. then theres the  One that comes with them. :)
[05:42] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis, yes that's what I mean. Wasn't sure whether I needed the absolute path
[05:42] <loafers> How do I use VMware Player on Ubuntu?  The only files available for download are .rpm and .bundle, which don't open.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  when in doubt use the full path
[05:42] <arvind_khadri> constantine: you dont need to run it...System->preferences->compiz manager
[05:42] <shinshaila> hello whats the fastest way to get wine on my pc
[05:42] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis: ok. The syntax is correct though?
[05:43] <arvind_khadri> loafers: use virtualbox
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  looks right.. be sure the CaSe Is CoRrEct :)
[05:43] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis: ofcourse :) BRB.
[05:43] <arvind_khadri> !vbox > loafers
[05:43] <constantine> arvind: what do I select in compiz manager?
[05:43] <arvind_khadri> !tab | constantine
[05:44] <Cpudan80> constantine: play with the settings!
[05:44] <arvind_khadri> constantine: check out the settings there....
[05:44] <constantine> isnt' that a bug if ubuntu is rebooting when I hit custom, though?
[05:44] <Looter> dualboot issues...am I wasting my time?  I know that probably sound slike a can of worms but can I get someone to at least attempt to give me some help?
[05:44] <loafers> arvind_khadri, Yes I'm aware of vbox, but usb is not supported on ose and I spent many nights getting it to detect cd in the cdrom, so that's why i don't want to use it
[05:44] <Yuva> is there any way to increase the size of the /usr directory i am running of space..:(
[05:45] <shinshaila> i have to manually run dpkg b how do i do that
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Yuva,  you got /usr on its own parittion?
[05:45] <arvind_khadri> loafers: then you will have to compile VMware... and ya iirc to run vbox there is a separate kernel
[05:45] <arvind_khadri> shinshaila: sudo dpkg
[05:45] <Yuva> Dr_willis: yes
[05:46] <loafers> I could never get my cdrom to work for vbox
[05:46] <shinshaila> thank you
[05:46] <arvind_khadri> shinshaila: sudo dpkg <options> <filename>
[05:46] <Yuva> Dr_willis: dev/sdb3
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Yuva,  then you resize the parittion not the directory. :) gparted can do tht.. You may have to correct fstab , if the uuid changes
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Yuva,  andyou may want to use a live cd + gparted to do the resizing
[05:46] <constantine> thanks for your help y'all I'll be back for the real learning
[05:47] <constantine> this OS is redonkulus good
[05:47] <arvind_khadri> constantine: :)
[05:49] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis: Success! Thanks. Now, I don't suppose you have any experience with wpa_supplicant?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  never used it. never needed it
[05:50] <Yuva> Dr_willis: i have ubuntu live cd is that contain gparted
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Yuva,  you can always apt-get install gparted if its not installed
[05:50] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis: as in, used something else for WPA, or never used WPA/wireless?
[05:50] <arvind_khadri> Yuva: no ... you will have to install it..
[05:51] <Yuva> Dr_willis: cd is  read only memory na... how will it work?? sorry if i am wrong:P
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Yuva,  ram man... ram.. :)
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Bobblybook,  ive not had to fight with wireless much.. if it dident work.. i used wires :) but now wireless for the most part just works for my machines
[05:52] <constantine> ubuntu is still restarting when I make the compiz changes
[05:53] <Out_Cold> so i have been trying to get my TV going with 'xrandr --output TV --auto' and the TV responds to the output with a flicker.. but it's a black screen.
[05:53] <Yuva> Dr_willis: after editing how can i find th UID of the partition to edit the fstab
[05:53] <Bobblybook> Dr_willis, is wpa_supplicant still needed to use WPA encryption for networks? I'm running 8.10 intrepid now, but the guides I read might be old.
[05:53] <Out_Cold> anyone know what the + is in the xrandr output?
[05:54] <ogre> !ttf
[05:55] <nazmul_> hai everybody
[05:55] <KiberGluk> hai gais
[05:56] <nazmul_> can anyone tell me how i can install the theme of ubuntu
[05:56] <KiberGluk> oy
[05:56] <bazhang> KiberGluk, this is ubuntu support
[05:56] <bazhang> KiberGluk, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:57] <KiberGluk> i'm sory.
[05:57] <wooooooo> does anyone here know how to get open office????
[05:57] <KiberGluk> i'm use ubuntu
[05:57] <Kyle> Can I Speak Chinese?
[05:57] <Peluch3> lol
[05:57] <KiberGluk> but i dont problem
[05:57] <bazhang> Kyle, in #ubuntu-cn
[05:57] <KiberGluk> )
[05:58] <KiberGluk> dont have problem*
[05:58] <wooooooo> nevermind
[05:58] <bazhang> take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please KiberGluk
[05:58] <KiberGluk> yes. thanks
[05:58] <wooooooo> I used 'wget' to get some internet packages that it turns out I don't need
[05:58] <wooooooo> how can I get rid of those????
[06:00] <KiberGluk> bye
[06:01] <CheesyWeasel> ok, i'm about to go crazy here. i have my terminal and everything set up, that when i get highlighted in irssi, it beeps. what i WANT is for the little icon in the taskbar to light up and stay lit until i open the terminal and view what highlighted me. get it?
[06:01] <Flannel> CheesyWeasel: That's a terminal setting
[06:02] <CheesyWeasel> i've looked through all the settings, no such luck
[06:02] <shinshaila> my pc is telling me to manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' but when i try to do that it says command not found
[06:03] <CheesyWeasel> Flannel: the only visual signal i have been able to get is the window that i am currently in flashes. but thats no good, because im not always looking at my screen...
[06:03] <quibbler> shinshaila: runs the command as root,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:03] <nickrud> shinshaila, if you're using the quote marks, don't. Run it a s sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:04] <shinshaila> thanks
[06:05] <CheesyWeasel> in other words, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415172
[06:05] <bn43> hi is anyone using ntop here? I am using a 3G modem and using pon to dial - whenever I redial the connection I get a different ip and need to restart ntop to monitor that connection - however I need to figure out how to add script to pon command to restart ntop
[06:05] <CheesyWeasel> unsolved by the ubuntu community. fantastic.
[06:05] <inno> what's good nigga
[06:05] <CheesyWeasel> !ohmy
[06:05] <inno> imma show you niggers whats good
[06:05] <inno> NIGGGERRR
[06:05] <FloodBot1> inno: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <Kyle> how to make a .img File
[06:06] <prince_jammys> CheesyWeasel: try #irssi
[06:07] <HentaiXP> anyone know if ext3fs, I take it ubuntu uses it has something akin to NTFS alternate data streams
[06:07] <Flannel> prince_jammys, CheesyWeasel: it's not an irssi issue.  It's a gnome-terminal thing.  CheesyWeasel, check gconf
[06:07] <prince_jammys> CheesyWeasel: what you're talking about isn't so easy to accomplish. gui clients like what you mention in the forum have mechanisms to communicate with other stuff in the desktop environments
[06:07] <CheesyWeasel> prince_jammys: i almost killed myself in there, the only active person was a complete moron
[06:07] <prince_jammys> CheesyWeasel: ah, ok
[06:07] <CheesyWeasel> Flannel: gconf?
[06:07] <Flannel> CheesyWeasel: yeah
[06:08] <Flannel> CheesyWeasel: That's the only other place something like that would be.
[06:08] <CheesyWeasel> drawing a blank on that...
[06:08] <CheesyWeasel> how do i check gconf?
[06:09] <Flannel> CheesyWeasel: sudo apt-get install gconf-editor then run gconf-editor
[06:09] <CheesyWeasel> ah
[06:09] <CheesyWeasel> k just a sec
[06:10] <CheesyWeasel> Flannel: k, where do i look?
[06:11] <Flannel> CheesyWeasel: Not really sure
[06:11] <CheesyWeasel> theres a LOT there...
[06:11] <aksci> how should i get voice support into empathy?
[06:11] <shinshaila> now it tells me--configure is an unrecognized option
[06:11] <prince_jammys> CheesyWeasel: what you'll probably need is a notification-daemon, and a script
[06:12] <CheesyWeasel> ugh. this is a lot more work that i expected
[06:12] <Flannel> CheesyWeasel: apps/gnome-terminal I think
[06:13] <bn43> does anyone know how to modify the pon script to add more commands?  I need to restart ntop on redial
[06:13] <CheesyWeasel> Flannel: yeah...
[06:13] <wolter> how can i view the bash color code of my PS1 ?
[06:14] <CheesyWeasel> Flannel: looking, not finding anything
[06:14] <prince_jammys> wolter: echo it
[06:15] <wolter> prince_jammys, well, it shows no color code.
[06:15] <pano_fi> 'lo guys
[06:15] <prince_jammys> wolter: is it in color?
[06:15] <CheesyWeasel> ARGH
[06:15] <CheesyWeasel> oh well
[06:15] <wolter> prince_jammys, well, the color that I chose in the profile..
[06:15] <CheesyWeasel> i guess not haha :(
[06:15] <wolter> i am using gnome-terminal
[06:15] <CheesyWeasel> thanks Flannel
[06:16] <prince_jammys> http://pthree.org/2007/03/21/irssi-gui-notify/
[06:16] <prince_jammys> bah
[06:16] <^cheeky> hi, i installed lm-sensors and i did the detection and said yes to everything and rebooted, when i run the program i dont see anything like my fan speed etc etc.. here is what it looks like: http://pastebin.ca/1330550, is this how its supposed to look like and if its not , what can i do to fix it ?
[06:17] <arvind_khadri> Flannel: gconf is gconf-editor
[06:17] <pano_fi> I have a problem with something about dpkg, it shows three kernel images as installed but they are not installed anymore, and it refuses to remove them... is there any way to notify dpkg that those pkgs are not there anymore?
[06:18] <prince_jammys> wolter: ah, you set the prompt through gnome-terminal
[06:18] <wolter> prince_jammys, yeah, but i want my user@machine:-$ to be in white
[06:18] <^cheeky> oh sorry, iam also using ubuntu 8.10
[06:18] <Flannel> pano_fi: How did you remove them?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> wolter,  read the 'bash prompt howto' :) it gives massive amount of info on that topic
[06:19] <pano_fi> Flannel: with apt-get --purge remove
[06:19] <Dr_willis> wolter,  and a few 100 example prompts
[06:19] <pano_fi> Flannel: did it on several systems and always worked nicely, dunno what happened this time
[06:20] <chunty> can anyone recommend a decent AI bot?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> chunty,  to do what exactly?
[06:20] <so> net
[06:21] <chunty> learn based off of conversations
[06:21] <pano_fi> ^cheeky: it could be due to your hardware missing (supported) sensors
[06:21] <nexxt_> Titan btw i installed OSS from source and it fixed the sound problem
[06:21] <prince_jammys> wolter:try  PS1=$(tput setaf 8)$PS1$(tput sgr0) in your shell
[06:21] <^cheeky> pano_fi, this is a new machine i put together was hoping it would have sensors :/
[06:21] <prince_jammys> wolter: ah, no. there's more
[06:21] <constantine> can't get compiz to work due to my vm, can i get the visual effects any other way using a vm?
[06:22] <wolter> prince_jammys, well, i got the color back
[06:22] <wolter> whats that?
[06:22] <ikonia> ^cheeky: just because it's new doesn't mean it will have sensors support
[06:22] <prince_jammys> wolter:should have been  PS1="\[$(tput setaf 8)\]$PS1$\[(tput sgr0)\]"
[06:23] <prince_jammys> wolter: but you'd have to start another shell first
[06:23] <bn43> anyone using pon to dialup?
[06:23] <wolter> prince_jammys, nah, it works right away
[06:23] <wolter> prince_jammys, but, is the setaf 8 command restoring the gnome-terminal color?
[06:23] <wolter> or which command then?
[06:23] <^cheeky> ikonia, so there isnt anything i can do ?
[06:24] <prince_jammys> wolter: yeah, but if you try the second (correct) one, you should do it in a new shell
[06:24] <prince_jammys> wolter: tput gets the escape sequences from the terminfo database. setaf sets the foreground
[06:24] <wolter> prince_jammys, ok, so tput setaf 8 restores color
[06:24] <wolter> ahh hm
[06:24] <wolter> and the 8?
[06:24] <prince_jammys> wolter: no, sgr0 does
[06:25] <mib_j28yrq> Hello
[06:25] <prince_jammys> wolter: try other numbers. echo "$(tput setaf 2)hello$(tput sgr0)"
[06:25] <ikonia> ^cheeky: not if it's not supported
[06:25] <^cheeky> ikonia, ok thank you
[06:25] <wolter> prince_jammys, the tput sgr0 doesn't execute, but rather it appears as part of the prompt
[06:25] <mib_j28yrq> How are you
[06:26] <mib_j28yrq> I'm is Aun
[06:26] <prince_jammys> wolter: oops, the dollar sign is in the wrong place
[06:27] <wolter> prince_jammys, where should i put it?
[06:27] <quibbler> mib_j28yrq: hello
[06:27] <prince_jammys> wolter: (new shell) PS1="\[$(tput setaf 8)\]$PS1\[$(tput sgr0)\]"
[06:28] <wolter> prince_jammys, that does nothing
[06:28] <mib_j28yrq> quibbler : Where do you live?
[06:28] <wolter> prince_jammys, but i think i get it
[06:28] <quibbler> mib_j28yrq: Nederland
[06:28] <Daft_Punk> is there any way to get a menu bar with tint2? ive seen screenshots with something similar to tint2 with a menubar and task tray that was not trayer
[06:28] <prince_jammys> wolter: i don't know what role your terminal settings are playing. i normally set it "by hand"
[06:29] <wolter> prince_jammys, well, now i know how to change color, but, where do i get the table of what setaf does?
[06:29] <Fezzler> just upgraded Hardy to Intrepid.  Impressed with the ease and quality of upgrade!  Seems faster too.
[06:30] <Fezzler> So far, everything works!
[06:30] <wolter> prince_jammys, and, if setaf 8 gives some specific color, then that is the exact color i had for my console
[06:30] <pano_fi> what strange, synaptic solved my issue... what does "mark for complete removal" does different from "sudo apt-get --purge remove" ?
[06:30] <Daft_Punk> Fezzler, are you using custom settings for theme files before the upgrade? IE: your own msn skins for amsn and your own themes for emerald etc...
[06:31] <Fezzler> yes
[06:31] <Daft_Punk> Fezzler, i would update but im scared of my system going fubar
[06:31] <Fezzler> The upgrade process saw custom config files and asked if I wanted to keep or replace
[06:31] <Daft_Punk> Fezzler, what about installed programs
[06:31] <Fezzler> I selected Keep and my look and feel is the same
[06:32] <Sage-X> trying to get friend to try linux and perfers to stay on winblows  playing W0W
[06:32] <Fezzler> Well, I ran xchat, blender, inkscape all seem fine
[06:32] <Sage-X> I need help with that
[06:32] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, you can play wow on linux using wine... it works perfect
[06:32] <nickrud> Daft_Punk, as long as you don't have 3d party repo stuff, you should be fine for an upgrade
[06:33] <Sage-X> Daft_Punk: thanks bud
[06:33] <Fezzler> my themes and users and logins are all functioning
[06:33] <Daft_Punk> nickrud, i may have some 3rd party stuff
[06:33] <chunty> Can anyone recommend a decent AI bot?
[06:33] <scunizi> Sage-X: load wow on your linux box and let him enter his creds.. and play.. probably faster
[06:33] <Daft_Punk> i have some stuff not in repos
[06:33] <connar> hi Daft_Punk
[06:33] <Daft_Punk> hi connar
[06:33] <Sage-X> lol
[06:33] <connar> Daft_Punk: i need to know my internet traffic
[06:33] <nickrud> Daft_Punk, depends on how library version specific those compiled programs are then
[06:34] <Sage-X> Scunizi: thanks of course it will run faster =)
[06:34] <Daft_Punk> connar, lol why are you asking me? i have no idea
[06:34] <connar> Daft_Punk: is there a command for it?
[06:34] <|Talon|> i installed that package dmraid or draid or whatever it is, anyways im now able to mount my raided drives and browse its content.. but I put it into fstab, exactly how it is listed in /dev/mapper and when i boot, it never mounts... is dmraid not started yet? how would i mount this on boot so I dont haveto sudo mount it every time i restart?
[06:34] <Yuva> hi i want to increase my /usr directory but in gparted it not allowing me to increase the size but it allows me to decrease the size
[06:34] <connar> okay
[06:34] <scunizi> Sage-X: that alone will convince him
[06:34] <Daft_Punk> connar, im not sure why you are asking me, i have no idea about linux honestly, just that Sage-X asked an easy question
[06:34] <connar> Does any1 here have an idea about how to check internet traffic
[06:35] <Daft_Punk> !ask connar
[06:35] <mib_j28yrq> quibbler : Are you play MSN ?
[06:35] <Daft_Punk> doh
[06:35] <Daft_Punk> !ask | connar
[06:35] <prince_jammys> heh
[06:35] <connar> ubottu: okay
[06:35] <Yuva> hi i want to increase my /usr directory but in gparted it not allowing me to increase the size but it allows me to decrease the size ?? help me plaease
[06:35] <quibbler> mib_j28yrq: no
[06:35] <Sage-X> yes it will but I will have some trouble with him cause he thinks he is a "DJ" is there any software out there you guys would suggest
[06:36] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, dj software for linux?
[06:36] <prince_jammys> Yuva: is there space next to the partition for it to grow?
[06:36] <mib_j28yrq> quibble: Why ?
[06:36] <Sage-X> yes
[06:36] <Sage-X> Draft_punk: yea like anything
[06:36] <Yuva> prince_jammys: no /home directory is followed  by that
[06:36] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, lots of mixing software for linux, google "linux dj software" or "linux mixing software"
[06:36] <Sage-X> ok thanks
[06:37] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, also, its daft not draft
[06:37] <scunizi> Sage-X: medibuntu has lots of stuff for mobile dj ,,, recording multitrack etc.
[06:37] <quibbler> mib_j28yrq: this is a support channel, if you wish to just chat please join #ubuntu-offtoics
[06:37] <Sage-X> sorry I have the yuck yellow text for my irc pms and my vrightness is UBER high
[06:37] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, scunizi is talking about a different distro of ubuntu i believe, called medibuntu that is used for media applications mostly
[06:37] <Sage-X> thanks all
[06:37] <prince_jammys> Yuva: well, you need some unused space if you're going to expand the other partition
[06:38] <Yuva> prince_jammys: i have 50gigs of unused partition
[06:38] <Sage-X> hmm
[06:38] <Yuva> prince_jammys: i have 50gigs of unused free space but it is in the end...
[06:38] <core1> ghyfdhdfsfyd
[06:38] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, also tell your friend that linux support is mostly free, even though you can pay for professional support and there is live chat and the official ubuntu forums to post on and browse for issues, also tell him the security is way higher than that of windows
[06:38] <Daft_Punk> no virus :D
[06:38] <core1> kkhjkh
[06:38] <dosnubbie> Problem: My linux kernel is reported as compiled in gcc-4.2.3 VMware's kernels will be compiled with gcc-4.2.4 as such it doesn't want to work how do I get gcc-4.2.4 when aptitude only shows 4.2?
[06:38] <prince_jammys> Yuva: you'll have to move the stuff around then, i think
[06:38] <nerdario2> wassap muh nurdzzz
[06:39] <prince_jammys> Yuva: i've done it before, but i had to juggle the partitions around
[06:39] <Yuva> http://www.mibbit.com/pb/elqC3X my fdisk -l
[06:39] <Daft_Punk> is there any way to get a menu bar with tint2? ive seen screenshots with something similar to tint2 with a menubar and task tray that was not trayer
[06:41] <Sage-X> Daft_Punk: yes I told him it was free and better security but being 16 and trying to reach out to my hard-headed friend I cant get through to him without a hard bargin
[06:41] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, smack him
[06:41] <Yuva> prince_jammys: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/elqC3X my fdisk -l
[06:41] <prince_jammys> Sage-X: if he's really into sound mixing, he'll probably find the linux alternatives substandard
[06:41] <Sage-X> Daft_Punk: or just SSH over some DDos xD
[06:42] <scunizi> argg.. how do I close a pm window in irssi?
[06:42] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, with the new ubuntu intrepid version, you can use the installer disc to install ubuntu on his computer as a program on windows, so he can test it out without changing anything
[06:42] <Sage-X> prince_jammys: thnx
[06:42] <Sage-X> k I got my cd
[06:42] <Sage-X> I can give it to him and its his choice wether to use it or not
[06:43] <Daft_Punk> tell him just to install it as a program first on windows, also he can boot to the cd and use the live feature to test it out, also probably show him some screen shots of some custom ubuntu desktops that look wicked
[06:43] <prince_jammys> why are you so bent on him installing ubuntu if he doesn't want to, anyway?
[06:44] <Sage-X> Daft_Punk: I think I just have to do it with him and do the "install inside of windows" option
[06:44] <Daft_Punk> prince_jammys, because windows simply sucks... its a multiconglamorate corporation out to get your money with the uber lame releases of windows that upon them "trying" fail to release a GOOD version
[06:44] <prince_jammys> yeah, and ...
[06:44] <Sage-X> windows has print code in the assembly cursing gates lol
[06:44] <prince_jammys> then you get stuck feeling like you have to fix any problem he has
[06:44] <Daft_Punk> prince_jammys, dont you want all your friends to be converted? i surely do
[06:44] <prince_jammys> Daft_Punk: no, i don't convert people
[06:45] <Daft_Punk> prince_jammys, naw, tell him to rtfm
[06:45] <Daft_Punk> prince_jammys, you are a pure one
[06:45] <prince_jammys> if they have an interest in it, i can help
[06:45] <prince_jammys> if they don't, i don't force the issue
[06:45] <Daft_Punk> the world would be a better place if EVERYONE used linux and m$ didnt exist
[06:46] <prince_jammys> in part because i know linux is not for everyone, and also because i don't want to be guilt-tripped into full-time support
[06:46] <bindaas> add the third dimension to that :soalris
[06:46] <Sage-X> afk
[06:46] <nerdario2> scunizi: type /q
[06:46] <bindaas> solaris*
[06:46] <Daft_Punk> prince_jammys, fair enough
[06:46] <nerdario2> in the querry window
[06:47] <prince_jammys> Daft_Punk: plus, there are certain fields where linux doesn't shine so much (games, the music mixing he was talking about)
[06:47] <prince_jammys> don't get me wrong. i've been running linux exclusively for years
[06:47] <Daft_Punk> prince_jammys, oh for sure
[06:48] <Daft_Punk> prince_jammys, but you can substitute that with mac osx ;)
[06:48] <prince_jammys> there you go
[06:48] <prince_jammys> :)
[06:48] <Sage-X> mac osx is a bomb riddled with BSD all over it
[06:48] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, not if you use mac hardware
[06:49] <Daft_Punk> mac hardware is specially designed for their software, if you run mac osx on a non-mac pc, yeah bsd
[06:49] <Sage-X> Daft_Punk: oh yeh besides it requires poopy hardware for expensive prices
[06:49] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, actually the hardware designed for the mac is higher quality than your average run of the mill pc
[06:49] <Sage-X> my i7 pc can run osx
[06:49] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, that is ONE reason it is higher priced
[06:49] <Daft_Punk> Sage-X, just because it can, doesnt mean it should :p
[06:49] <Flannel> Daft_Punk, Sage-X: mind taking this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic?  thanks
[06:50] <Daft_Punk> sorry sir
[06:50]  * Daft_Punk salutes Flannel 
[06:50] <Quicken2k> how does one fix "must be root (or fake root) when converting .rpms to .deb?
[06:50] <Sage-X> Daft_Punk: shure obviously a jobs fan I got a mac too
[06:50] <Sage-X> its ok
[06:51] <arvind_khadri> Quicken2k: why do you want to do so?
[06:51] <arvind_khadri> Quicken2k: what are you trying to convert?
[06:51] <arvind_khadri> Quicken2k: as in which package
[06:51] <Quicken2k> have my intel (video) driver that's rpm ubuntu needs to convert it to deb
[06:52] <tritium> Quicken2k: no, ubuntu has its own intel video driver packages.
[06:53] <Quicken2k> that's funny it didn't find mine on install 82845G
[06:53] <UndertakerX2> should i use "apt-get install memcached php5-memcache" to install memcache?
[06:53] <arvind_khadri> Quicken2k: google it and you will find
[06:53] <Quicken2k> K
[06:55] <lain_wired> hiya all.
[06:56] <lain_wired> I accidentally set my resolution way too low and now i can't really see the parts of the screen i'd need to change it back. :\
[06:56] <lain_wired> So I'm thinking cli, right? except apparently reconfiguring xserver-xorg doesn't help,
[06:58] <OmnipotentEntity> hi, dumb question, I'm trying to write a one liner to rename all of the files containing the word 'bad' to good whatever it was: example badpidgeon.jpg becomes goodpidgeon.jpg.  I've come up with this but it isn't working, any tips: find . -name "bad*" -exec mv '{}' `echo '{}' | sed 's/bad/good/'` \;
[06:59] <prince_jammys> OmnipotentEntity: can't go about it that way
[06:59] <prince_jammys> find is not a shell, so your pipeline won't work
[07:00] <prince_jammys> OmnipotentEntity: go to #bash
[07:03] <wolter> how do i get the deskop items to look for binaries on the PATH ?
[07:04] <linlin> i have an existing software raid0 array of 2 drives, and i am looking to add 3 more drives to this array.  can that be done without rebuilding the entire array?
[07:04] <Mr_Cool59> does anybody know of a way to get a x-fi notebook to work with ubuntu 8.10
[07:05] <adante> hi
[07:06] <adante> my system has gone wierd because it is trying to boot from a nonexistent uuid
[07:06] <adante> i booted the livecd and hit rescue and while there is a "Rescue Mode" up the top is appears to be trying to completely reinstall linux?
[07:06] <TimStarling> my video brightness hotkeys don't work, anyone know what package would be responsible?
[07:07] <adante> how can i just get a working environment so i may e.g. mount my boot partition and inspect the grub.conf? i have tried alt+F2 to another terminal but when i try mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot it says invalid argument?
[07:07] <wolter> how do i get launchers to use the binaries in $PATH?
[07:07] <bitfish> wolter, use the absolute path
[07:08] <wolter> bitfish, but can't i make desktop files look for binaries on the $PATH ?
[07:08] <bitfish> wolter, sure, *if* they are *in* $PATH
[07:08] <wolter> bitfish, there are in $PATH..
[07:09] <wolter> bitfish, i can run the binaries from terminal, but cannot from the desktop files.
[07:09] <adante> how do i mount things in the rescue cd?
[07:10] <adante> i try "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot" and it fails with an invalid argument
[07:10] <bitfish> wolter, it doesn't make any sense to run cli-only applications from a desktop file
[07:10] <bitfish> like, running "top" from a desktop file
[07:11] <wolter> bitfish, thats not the case. And I am not asking you whether is has or has not any sense, but just how to do it.
[07:11] <wolter> bitfish, I have applications installed on my home path, which have launchers in a folder that is added to $PATH which I can run from terminal, but I want to be able to just write the command on the desktop files, but I am not.
[07:12] <__brett> Anyone know how to get pretty eye candy themes on ubuntu, with a dock and transparent windows?
[07:13] <wolter> __brett, you can get a fancy dock, and something better than a dock, by downloading gnome-do
[07:14] <__brett> How do I get more options for pretty themes, i dont see any in the System>Pref>Appearance
[07:14] <prince_jammys> OmnipotentEntity: that's a great channel, by the way, with a great wiki and faq (whenever it gets fixed)
[07:14] <heLEO> is linux newbie allowed here..??
[07:14] <psywiped> hello ubuntu comunity
[07:14] <Ascavasaion> Everyone asks me what verison of Ubuntu I have on... Hardy Heron, etc... Does it make a difference if I run all the updates when they are required?
[07:14] <wolter> __brett, you have to download them
[07:14] <scunizi> heLEO: ok.. we
[07:15] <quibbler> !hi
[07:15] <psywiped> yes asc
[07:15] <scunizi> heLEO: we'll let you in just for tonight
[07:15] <adante> hi guys is the server install cd capable of acting as a rescue cd?
[07:15] <scunizi> :)
[07:15] <psywiped> because unless you tell it to update it wont
[07:15] <adante> i can't like figure out how to get into an environment where i can do something uesful from it?
[07:15] <heLEO> scunizi: thankks :/
[07:15] <heLEO> thanks;)
[07:15] <psywiped> it will just update the programs and not the base parts of ubuntu
[07:15] <scunizi> adante: it's not a live cd so no
[07:15] <bwayne> adante:  would you like to chroot into your workstation environment from a livecd?
[07:16] <scunizi> heLEO: you have any questions just throw them out there and if anyone knows the answer they wil
[07:16] <prince_jammys> OmnipotentEntity: that's a great channel, by the way, with a great wiki and faq (whenever it gets fixed)
[07:16] <Ascavasaion> psycodad: How do you tell it to update?
[07:16] <adante> bwayne: i just want to get to an environment where i can say mount my boot partition, open the grub menu.lst and change the uuids because i think they have changed for some bizarre and largely incomprehensible to me reason
[07:16] <OmnipotentEntity> prince_jammys, thanks. :D
[07:16] <Bi_bRo_pklg_> hi
[07:16] <psywiped> is there a gui for remote server file magament so i can move stuff between folders on the server or is it all command line?
[07:16] <heLEO> scunizi: if i delete my home partiton and create a  new home partition will my OS boot?
[07:17] <psywiped> no heleo
[07:17] <adante> bwayne: i tried booting the server cd and going to the rescue option and it looked like it wanted to reinstall all of linux so i decided to back out because there is infact stuff on there i'd like to keep
[07:17] <bwayne> adante: any livecd will accomplish that.
[07:17] <psywiped> adante go download the regular live cd
[07:17] <scunizi> heLEO: are you trying to move you /home?  is that the reason you're doing that?
[07:17] <adante> heh ok
[07:17] <bwayne> adante: when you get to the menu, press ctrl-2
[07:17] <adante> was hoping to not have to download as i'm not on a big pipe here
[07:17] <psywiped> no not trying to move home wanting to move some files inside of home without reuploading them
[07:18] <bwayne> adante:  when you boot from the server cd, you ought to be able to change tty's.
[07:18] <adante> bwayne: ok
[07:18] <bwayne> adante: from there you can mount /root and vim grub.conf
[07:18] <heLEO> scunizi: i want to increate my /usr  directory  but /home is followed by it so cant able increase the size thats y..:P
[07:19] <adante> bwayne: in the meantime when i try to boot now it can't find my root uuid, now i am trying to 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot' and it says error invalid argument, any idea why?
[07:19] <heLEO> i want to increate my /usr directory size  but /usr is followed by/home  so cant able increase the size thats y..
[07:19] <prince_jammys> heLEO: yeah, you can do that. but you could also shrink the /home partition
[07:19] <nubuntu> sifhs
[07:19] <prince_jammys> heLEO: you don't have to delete it. anyway, if you choose to, it won't ruin the OS
[07:20] <bwayne> adante: you may need to create /mnt/boot before you attempt to mount to that point.
[07:20] <n8tuser> anyone remember how to tell VMware that I have two nics and it should use the 2nd nic eth1 instead of defaulting to eth0 -- so my guest can acquire the ip addr range of the 2nd ip also (bridge) ?
[07:21] <adante> bwayne: yeah that directory does exist
[07:21] <scunizi> heLEO: without really messing things up you could create a new partition large enough for /usr and point the system there.. or if you have enough space make a new partition for /home .. move your files.. redo /etc/fstab to reflect the new /home location and uuid #. shrink the old home after a reboot to the new home and increase /usr.  not sure why you need to increase /usr.. what's going in there that takes so much room?
[07:21] <heLEO> prince_jammys: my gparted image http://i40.tinypic.com/xbn0hc.png give me  solution to increase the /usr directory
[07:21] <bwayne> adante: and fdisk -l returns the drive as /dev/sda?
[07:21] <adante> where is the grub manual for the menu.lst file?
[07:22] <bwayne> adante: try man menu.lst or man grub.conf
[07:22] <heLEO> bwayne: is menu.lst and grub.conf are same??
[07:22] <prince_jammys> heLEO: you could resize it to make space for the other one
[07:22] <adante> bwayne: hm i have no entries for either of those
[07:22] <bwayne> heLEO: in a lot of distro's, menu.lst is a symlink to grub.conf.
[07:23] <freazer> hi all! every time I run e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/vg1-lv1 I get new inode errors, even if I run the command two times in a row - I just finished a 22 hour e2fsck -cc check and _no_ bad blocks were found! what's going on?
[07:23] <ZiRiS> Anyone available for help with a serious video problem? (x won't even load)
[07:23] <ZiRiS> pm me, plz
[07:24] <psywiped> no not trying to move home wanting to move some files inside of home without reuploading them
[07:24] <adante> wow
[07:24] <psywiped> dammit wrong repost
[07:24] <psywiped> is there a gui for remote server file magament so i can move stuff between folders on the server or is it all command line?
[07:24] <bwayne> adante:  you don't have /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/grub.conf ?
[07:24] <adante> is there like an up to date copy of the grub config on the web? would somebody mind pointing it out to me?
[07:25] <adante> bwayne: well my boot is not mounted so no, at the moment i'm in the busybox shell that you get into when booting fails because my uuids have changed
[07:25] <adante> bwayne: (i think)
[07:25] <heLEO> prince_jammys: can delete the whole extended partition after increasing the size of /usr and create new /home will that work... i dont have any content in /home .. yesterday oly installed Linux ;)
[07:25] <prince_jammys> psywiped: there's gui ftp servers aplenty, if you're using ftp
[07:25] <ZiRiS> adante: google: supergrub
[07:25] <prince_jammys> psywiped: err.. ftp clients, i meant
[07:26] <bwayne> adante: yeah, you need supergrubdisc
[07:26] <TiZ> Hi. I'm working on a little window setup for my computer that puts a fullscreen gnome-terminal on workspace 4, and fullscreen quodlibet on workspace 3 (not sure if i'll keep either, mostly messing around). Thing is, though, I use compiz. And I also play games. I have a script that switches to metacity to play a game, then switches back. I also need to switch to metacity manually in the case that I need to run a game with no shortcut made for i
[07:26] <TiZ> t yet. I was wondering if I could run devilspie with compiz on so that whenever I switched to metacity, it would move the windows where they need to be
[07:26] <bwayne> automagic grub fixation
[07:26] <psywiped> well im looking to move files between folders on the server with a gui
[07:26] <prince_jammys> heLEO: why don't you just shrink the /home partition? you can do that with gparted
[07:26] <psywiped> i dont think sftp is set up for that
[07:26] <darkblue_B> Q. trying to figure out how to mount a firewire ieee1394 drive.. In /proc/devices I see a ieee1394 item, but I cant match it to anything in /dev .. ???
[07:26] <freazer> psywiped: if you want to do so on Windows machines you can share your local partitions using SAMBA with full right access - if its between Linux machines there are other protocols like using WinSCP and SSHD (an ssh service)
[07:27] <psywiped> and how do i do it if im off site and loged in thru ssh
[07:27] <freazer> psywiped: if you're between linux machines there's another protocol that's better to use than Samba, but I don't use it because all my friends and family are windows bound >.<
[07:27] <adante> ZiRiS: sorry where is the grub doc exactly there?
[07:27] <prince_jammys> heLEO: just slide it as if you were shrinking a window on your desktop
[07:28] <heLEO> prince_jammys: ok i will give it a try..;)
[07:28] <lockd> how can I build qt4 apps with qmake-qt4? all the include directories get switched to qt3
[07:28] <freazer> psywiped: You can use OpenVPN to tunnel into the machine's home network to directly access Samba and other network shares, or you can use SSH and graphical SSH tools like WinSCP (it will look like an FTP client)
[07:28] <arrenlex> When trying to reply to a post on the forums, it tells me I don't have permission to access the page, because of insufficient privileges or a disabled account. How might I find out what's wrong?
[07:28] <heLEO> prince_jammys: if anything goes wrong i will clain insurance :):D
[07:28] <ZiRiS> adante: you want supergrubdisc - it's an iso to download and burn to disk, then boot to - it fixes any and all grub issues that I've come across. Quite awesome actually. (googling now to get you specific address)
[07:28] <n8tuser> anyone remember how to tell VMware that I have two nics and it should use the 2nd nic eth1 instead of defaulting to eth0 -- so my guest can acquire the ip addr range of the 2nd nic also (bridge) ?
[07:28] <prince_jammys> heLEO: i'll give you your money back ;)
[07:29] <psywiped> cool ill give winscp a try
[07:29] <ZiRiS> adante: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[07:29] <prince_jammys> psywiped: you could tunnel an X session with ssh, and run a graphical filebrowser
[07:29] <adante> ZiRiS: no actually i just want to read the grub documentation to find out what what the uuid directive does :) but this seems to be very hard i can't seem to google it and it's not on my other computer?
[07:29] <chunty> looking for an AI bot that will learn based off of others conversations
[07:29] <ZiRiS> adante: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[07:29] <psywiped> im on a vista mechean right now and im not sure how to do an x session
[07:30] <prince_jammys> psywiped: that's if the remote machine is running X
[07:30] <freazer> psywiped: to do prince_jammy's tunneling idea you just use the -X option on SSH, it will invoke X forwarding and then you can just run a nautilus, konquerer, or your preferred file browser
[07:30] <quibbler> arrenlex: you have to register in order to inlog in the forums
[07:30] <ice_cream> AI bot? o.O
[07:30] <adante> ZiRiS: ok where is the grub doc exactly there?
[07:30] <arrenlex> quibbler: Yes, I am.
[07:30] <quibbler> arrenlex: then inlog
[07:30] <bwayne> adante: UUID is just another way of refering to a device, like /dev/sda1
[07:30] <arrenlex> quibbler: It lists my account name and informs me that it does not have permission or has been disabled.
[07:30] <n8tuser> psywiped-> get a putty or a vnc client first
[07:31] <ZiRiS> adante: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/index.php?pid=5
[07:31] <bwayne> adante: i don't prefer UUID's in my grub.  i prefer device paths.
[07:31] <ice_cream> yea, uuid is ugly and has that auto-generated look
[07:31] <ZiRiS> Anyone know how to fix video issues in 8.10? I can't even get xserver to load after 'installing' a vid driver.
[07:32] <darkblue_B> bwayne: do you know how I can fnd a device path to my Acer stock ieee1394 port/disk?
[07:32] <bwayne> darkblue_B: "port/disk"?
[07:32] <^cheeky> anyone play any RTS games ?
[07:32] <adante> bwayne: yeah well i don't like it either especially considering the drama it's giving me now but that's what is default now -- i'm just trying to fix it
[07:32] <^cheeky> sorry
[07:32] <^cheeky> wrong box
[07:32] <darkblue_B> bwayne: I dont know.. tell me what the rght terminology is
[07:33] <bwayne> darkblue_B: what are you trying to access, a hard drive?
[07:33] <darkblue_B> bwayne: yes
[07:33] <adante> bwayne: ok when i boot up, it says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid here> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[07:33] <adante> ZiRiS: thanks for your help
[07:33] <bwayne> adante: yeah.  stupid.  edit grub.conf and change dev/disk/by-uuid to /dev/sd??
[07:34] <bwayne> darkblue_B: so are you booting from a USB drive?
[07:34] <quibbler> arrenlex: at the bottom of the page there is a contact us button ... sent the administrator an email
[07:34] <n8tuser> adante-> how many partitions do you have that are mountable?
[07:34] <ZiRiS> adante: anytime I have the answers, they're yours! ;-)
[07:34] <darkblue_B> bwayne: its booted from an SATA drive, which is treated as 'scsi'.. I just want to mount this firewire drive..
[07:34] <arrenlex> quibbler: I figured it out. I need to read more... "You are browsing a READ only archive of the main support categories pre 4/21/2008. You will not be able to post or reply any threads in this section."
[07:35] <darkblue_B> dont see anyhting in /dev that looks likely
[07:35] <quibbler> arrenlex: i've done that too ;-)
[07:35] <adante> bwayne: you mean the menu.lst right? i tried editing the boot line to root hd(0,0) but when i boot it still tries to find it by uuid for some reason
[07:35] <adante> bwayne: hrm unless it has actually mounted my fstab and is looking for the other drive.. heh
[07:36] <bwayne> darkblue_B:  i see.  try unplugging the drive, then plug it back in and check the output of 'dmesg' in the terminal.
[07:36] <ZiRiS> Anyone have any knowledge of nVidia cards in 8.10? Or perhaps how to set vid driver to default via command line?
[07:36] <adante> n8tuser: uh i have sda1 boot, sda2 swap, sda3 /, sdb1 /mnt/vault
[07:36] <adante> n8tuser: course i dunno which are mountable because i cannot mount them because mount says invalid argument when i try to mount with valid arguments as far as i can see
[07:36] <MethinX> anyone know how to allocate bandwidth between Files on one computer, this is so my Skype still works while Im downloading
[07:37] <bwayne> adante: right.  pastebin your menu.lst and /etc/fstab
[07:37] <n8tuser> adante-> you have to fix your fstab contents
[07:38] <Gate> MethinX: there are a few ways
[07:38] <darkblue_B> bwayne: only msgs about eth0 in dmesg output.. ?
[07:38] <ZiRiS> Anyone? Beuhler? Beuhler? Beuhler?
[07:38] <bwayne> darkblue_B: not very promising.
[07:38] <Gate> MethinX: I presume you are downloading using firefox to download
[07:39] <psywiped> cool winscp was just what i was looking for
[07:39] <adante> n8tuser: righto cheers
[07:39] <freazer> MethinX: look into "packet shaping" - I've had a lot of issues with it myself but that's the google term you should hunt for
[07:39] <darkblue_B> bwayne: so.. Ubuntu 8.04 is not seeing the port?
[07:39] <bwayne> darkblue_B: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[07:39] <adante> bwayne: ok i'm booting again to try to do that, in the meantime can i ask: my menu.lst has a uuid = <some uid>; kernel = etc root=<some OTHER uuid> -- is this normal?
[07:39] <darkblue_B> thats about vide3o
[07:39] <darkblue_B> I ran into that several times this evening
[07:39] <darkblue_B> :-/
[07:40] <adante> bwayne: ok i am still downloading hte livecd so i can't get my /etc because at the moment i can only boot into a retarded busybox shell that does not mount things
[07:40] <adante> is the ubuntu 8.10 desktop cd the live cd? or where do i get the livecd now?
[07:41] <ch0d3> hi all
[07:41] <Flannel> adante: yes, the Desktop CD is the liveCD
[07:41] <bwayne> adante:  yeah, you're gonna need a livecd.  i recommend the gentoo or arch live cds because they go straight to a shell which is all you need.
[07:41] <ZiRiS> Currently I'm booting to nothing but command line - right after changing my vid driver to the recommended driver - on a fresh install. Anyone have any suggestions?
[07:41] <darkblue_B> geez 80gb over ethernet is gonna be slooowww
[07:41] <bwayne> darkblue_B: 80 gb over just about anything is slooowww  :-)
[07:42] <bwayne> eSATA could probably do it the fastest
[07:42] <adante> bwayne: ok thanks
[07:42] <adante> Flannel: cheers
[07:42] <MethinX> 13 days Windows free!!!!
[07:42] <psywiped> i need to get me a wire so i can use esata
[07:42] <ZiRiS> MethinX: Congrats!
[07:42] <Marupa> Hi everyone...I have two audio cards in my computer and both seem to be registered in X (the sound mixer has both)  Is there any way to get ALSA to stream audio to/from both?
[07:42] <darkblue_B> *sigh* no chance to kick this system into finding the stock iee1394 port?
[07:42] <rashire> return to the dark side.
[07:42] <MethinX> part of me wants to try the new Windows 7 but i will resist!
[07:42]  * freazer flings 30GB~50GB capacity HiDef and Blueray discs at darblue_B and bwayne!
[07:42] <adante> bwayne: sorry to bohter but is the arch main cd the live cd?
[07:42] <bwayne> MethinX: why?  it's just software.
[07:43] <Sage-X> windows does that still exist
[07:43] <psywiped> windows 7 is ok
[07:43] <darkblue_B> freazer: aha
[07:43] <Sage-X> ??
[07:43] <bwayne> adante: yeah.
[07:43] <darkblue_B> burn a dvd
[07:43] <cahaya-05> co_ajjah
[07:43] <bwayne> adante: i think they call it "core" or something.
[07:43] <quibbler> MethinX: i got it working in virtualbox so just try it
[07:43] <adante> bwayne: i'm just downloading  archlinux-2008.06-core-i686.iso hope thats ok
[07:43] <adante> bwayne: ok cheers
[07:43] <ZiRiS> MethinX: Win 7? You mean Vista? It's not so bad. I'm running it now, but only because Ubuntu is fried atm
[07:43] <n8tuser> anyone remember how to tell VMware that I have two nics and it should use the 2nd nic eth1 instead of defaulting to eth0 -- so my guest can acquire the ip addr range of the 2nd nic also (bridge) ?
[07:43] <darkblue_B> good for 8.7 gb dual layer ?
[07:43] <bwayne> adante: yeah, that's the latest, the lazy bums :-)
[07:43] <psywiped> adante are you using x64 or 32 bit?
[07:43] <adante> psywiped: x64
[07:44] <scunizi> n8tuser: you might try #vmware
[07:44] <darkblue_B> I think my VM disk is too big for that though
[07:44] <Sage-X> anything runs good  on my system
[07:44] <psywiped> you need to grab the x64 download thats the one for 32 bit your geting right now
[07:44] <bwayne> psywiped: he doesn't ned 64 bit kernel just to mount does he?
[07:45] <ZiRiS> bwayne: I would think so.
[07:45] <darkblue_B> n8tuser: I am using VirtualBox.. 4 stars
[07:45] <psywiped> takes the same time to download eather way might as well get the 64 bit
[07:45] <cahaya-05> hello
[07:45] <psywiped> better to not take a chace
[07:45] <ZiRiS> Hi.
[07:45] <psywiped> hi
[07:45] <MethinX> No I mean windows 7 , the beta after vista
[07:45] <bwayne> i don't think that's correct.  maybe if he wanted to chroot.
[07:45] <Sage-X> my i7 computer kicks ass judt isn't realy supported
[07:45]  * darkblue_B sulks
[07:45] <Gate> windows 7?
[07:45] <Gate> eeeeeew
[07:45] <ZiRiS> lol @ darkblue_B
[07:45] <psywiped> hehe
[07:45] <Sage-X> no intel chip i7
[07:45] <Marupa> Anyone?
[07:46] <psywiped> anyone what
[07:46] <MethinX> its downloadable at the windows site as a beta, I refuse to download it
[07:46] <n8tuser> darkblue_B-> my other virtual is openVz
[07:46] <adante> bwayne: while arch is downloading - http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc009192hp6.jpg this is the error i get when i boot
[07:46] <psywiped> ive given it a try its ok
[07:46] <Sage-X> .exe are for corprate cock sucking ppl
[07:46] <darkblue_B> ZiRiS: I have these expensive cables, and firewire 800, and ubuntu is not seeing the port
[07:47] <n8tuser> !oh my | Sage-X
[07:47] <darkblue_B> even bwayne doesnt know how to do it
[07:47] <tritium> Sage-X: watch the language
[07:47] <n8tuser> Sage-X-> thats not allowed here please
[07:47] <psywiped> odd
[07:47] <bwayne> adante: did you resize your partitions after UUID's were assigned?
[07:47] <Sage-X> appologies
[07:47] <ZiRiS> darkblue_B: thinking
[07:47] <Marupa> Is there any way to 'tee' audio from one ALSA card to another?
[07:47] <psywiped> geese sarge such hate
[07:48] <psywiped> adante is your bios seeing all your hdds?
[07:48] <OriWB> Hi, Can someone help me share between computers on my network?
[07:48] <psywiped> yes ori
[07:48] <ZiRiS> darkblue_B: have you tried plugging it (anything) in after loading ubuntu fully? It is hot-swappable.
[07:49] <OriWB> psywiped: thanx
[07:49] <psywiped> so ori what os's are you using?
[07:49] <OriWB> psywiped: sorry, whats an os?
[07:49] <darkblue_B> ZiRiS: dmesg doesnt show anyhting after the plug-in.. I am not seeing anything in /dev/ that looks likley.. though I certainly dont know much about /dev
[07:49] <bwayne> darkblue_B: welcome to Linux.  you pay money for fancy hardware that will only work with the embedded OS.  my advice is for you to re-install the factory OS.
[07:50] <darkblue_B> bwayne: actually its an inexpensive Acer that is the host..
[07:50] <darkblue_B> but yes
[07:50] <adante> bwayne: nah didn't do ANYTHING regarding changing partitions, didn't add any new hdds or anything
[07:50] <adante> psywiped: yes
[07:50] <bwayne> darkblue_B:  put Windows 7 on it.  you'll thank me.
[07:50] <Quicken2k> yep, the drivers are there, just doesn't know my monitor I think
[07:50] <adante> bwayne: i have a raid card however on mirror raid so i'm wondering if the card did something fruity
[07:50] <joot> Operating System
[07:50] <darkblue_B> bwayne is mad as a Redmond hatter (!)
[07:51] <bwayne> i'm just open to what works.
[07:51] <bwayne> gimme a bash shell anyday.
[07:51] <ZiRiS> darkblue_B: I'm starting simple here and working my way towards complicated. Does anything show up in administration>hardware?
[07:51] <bwayne> i'm not into jerking around for two weeks to get my video card working.
[07:51] <savvas> darkblue_B: what's the matter?
[07:51] <Marupa> Anyone have any suggestions for my audio question?
[07:51] <darkblue_B> ZiRiS: looking
[07:52] <psywiped> yep maru look it up in the forum
[07:52] <darkblue_B> savvas: firewire port on an Acer isnt being recognized
[07:52] <imaginativeone_> what's the default mysql database name?
[07:52] <ZiRiS> savvas: his firewire isn't showing up - at all.
[07:52] <adante> bwayne: brb apparently friend down the street has an arch cd going to grab it :3
[07:52] <Relentless> Marupa What was your question
[07:52] <bwayne> adante: right on
[07:52] <savvas> ZiRiS, darkblue_B: did you have a look at the output of: lspci -nn
[07:52] <psywiped> good deal adante
[07:52] <Marupa> Relentless, 'tee'ing audio from one alsa card to another.
[07:53] <Relentless> What is teeing?
[07:53] <bwayne> lol
[07:53] <Marupa> Relentless, As in, playing audio on both cards simultaneously
[07:53] <savvas> darkblue_B: what's the laptop's model number?
[07:53] <chalcedony> savvas: lovely to see you :)
[07:53] <savvas> darkblue_B: also, which Ubuntu release are you trying?
[07:53] <savvas> hey chalcedony :))
[07:53] <Relentless> Marupa Use Jack
[07:53] <ZiRiS> Relentless: picture the letter T, then picture one card on one end of the cross, the other card on the other end, and your speakers at the bottom. Voila, Tee'ing
[07:54] <Marupa> Relentless, I'd rather not screw up all the rest of my audio, thanks.
[07:54] <bwayne> linux audio.  now there's a fun subject.
[07:55] <darkblue_B> savvas: I have an Acer Aspire dual-core AMD running 8.04.. works great, been stable
[07:55] <psywiped> playing audio on both cards simultaneously one more thing windows cant do
[07:55] <joot> ZiRiS, that seems to make no sense
[07:55] <Relentless> afaik teeing was speaker speaker computer
[07:55] <Marupa> Relentless, The last four times I tried working with Jack, I pretty much had to reinstall to get internet back.
[07:55] <pantung> hey
[07:55] <ZiRiS> So we have no Video gurus present this evening? I was hoping for some suggestions to get back into 8.10
[07:55] <darkblue_B> has a built in ieee1394 port.. I am just trying to mount an external drive.. nothing in desg when I plug it in, nothing likely looking in /dev
[07:55] <pantung> can some1 tell me channel name to ubuntu in danish?
[07:56] <chunty> looking for an AI bot that will learn based off of others conversations
[07:56] <ZiRiS> joot: do you not work in theory very often?
[07:56] <Relentless> #ubuntu.dk
[07:56] <psywiped> danish #ubuntuwindmills
[07:56] <pantung> ty :D
[07:56] <savvas> darkblue_B: turn the laptop around, look for a model number - there should be one :)
[07:56] <darkblue_B> ZiRiS: I just have hardware test and hardware drivers.. netierh seems like what you are aslking about
[07:56] <Chuppa> im thinking about getting ubuntu
[07:56] <freazer> ZiRiS: what's your vid card? if it's ATI there are FGLRX setups which can regenerate your xorg conf.. if it's something else I can google for you other potential install scripts
[07:56] <joot> ZiRiS, Evidently not..
[07:56] <psywiped> dark blue flip the comuter the infos on the bottom
[07:56] <darkblue_B> savvas: its a new Mac Pro unibody core-duo
[07:56] <ZiRiS> hmmm....
[07:56] <Relentless> #ubuntu.dk pantung
[07:56] <Chuppa> can someone tell me why i should get ubuntu?
[07:56] <darkblue_B> savvas: firewire 800
[07:57] <Relentless> Chuppa lol troll
[07:57] <darkblue_B> the Acer Aspire host is a tower
[07:57] <freazer> ZiRiS: the other option is to use a LiveCD, and then copy over the Xorg.conf stuff that it generates in the virtual filesystem over to your real implementation
[07:57] <psywiped> chuppa you will never have to deal with vriuses again
[07:57] <Relentless> Chuppa What do you need linux for in the first place
[07:57] <bwayne> Chuppa: knowledge of linux can come in handy.
[07:57] <Relentless> psywiped LOL
[07:57] <Relentless> just LOL
[07:57] <Chuppa> i dont have linux
[07:57] <chalcedony> Chuppa: it's nice :)
[07:57] <Relentless> Chuppa What do you already do on the computer
[07:57] <psywiped> its faster smarter and easer to use
[07:57] <Relentless> psywiped LOL
[07:58] <freazer> Chuppa: if you don't have Linux and you don't want Linux, don't use Linux. If you want Linux, download a LiveCD - you don't even have to install it, if you want to get rid of it take the CD disc out and just reboot
[07:58] <Relentless> pantung #ubuntu.dk
[07:58] <curleyteddy> chris?
[07:58] <Gate> Chuppa: you are looking for a torrent of responses, eh? No viruses, stable, free (in every sense of the word).
[07:58] <Chuppa> Relentless: i play online poker, chess, go, facebook, irc, and a few other games
[07:58] <ZiRiS> freazer: nVidia 8600GT  8.10 boots to a command line, X fails directly after rebooting from installing the recommended drivers on a fresh install, all I did was the updates, rebooted, added the vid driver and rebooted, and got a command line.
[07:58] <bwayne> Chuppa:  it's all a matter of what type of computing you're looking for.
[07:58] <psywiped> and if you build it right and learn how to program it can make you pizza
[07:58] <skate2> how do you reindex files with gnome-do?
[07:58] <Relentless> Chuppa then tbh stick to windows
[07:58] <joot> !dk
[07:59] <freazer> ZiRiS: I'm starting to think I never want to update again >.< getting very sick of updates breaking my great setup
[07:59] <savvas> darkblue_B: ok, can you paste the output at http://paste.ubuntu.com of this command: lspci -nn
[07:59] <bwayne> goodness handbrake takes forever
[07:59] <Gate> Chuppa: my reason for linux: I can do any damned thing I want with and to my computer, I am not bound by a EULA telling me when to blink
[07:59] <Chuppa> thanks Relentless
[07:59] <darkblue_B> savvas: ok
[07:59] <Relentless> Gate You are bound by morals. My version of windows are pirated
[07:59] <freazer> Chuppa: Just hang out in this channel and read all the problems people are having ^^
[07:59] <belesprit> I just installed Ubuntu the 64 bit version. My processor is an Intel Core 2 6600. When i tried to install 'Adobe flash player', I get the error message 'error wrong architecture i386'
[07:59] <Relentless> I have yet to buy software
[08:00] <tritium> Relentless: don't discuss pirated software here
[08:00] <Relentless> lol tritium Im not I was just saying...
[08:00] <psywiped> then try and find a channel for windows and see all the problems they are having
[08:00] <Relentless> lol
[08:00] <Relentless> the windows channels here are moslty chat
[08:00] <Relentless> or talk about ISS
[08:00] <ZiRiS> Freazer: good idea, but I'm not nearly as savvy on linux as I am with Windows. (It's what i learned because there was $ there.) What files would I copy over?
[08:00] <darkblue_B> savvas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115558/
[08:00] <Relentless> *IIS
[08:00] <ZiRiS> and to where?
[08:00] <tritium> Relentless: it's strictly offtopic
[08:01] <psywiped> is it flash-nonfree or nonfree-flash?
[08:01] <Gate> Relentless: Bound by morals and laziness. Linux is faster than hacking windows
[08:01] <Relentless> Gates Tru
[08:01] <freazer> belesprit: From what I've read there is no 64 bit flash - and that's adobe's fault
[08:01] <lstarnes> psywiped: probably flashplugin-nonfree
[08:01] <belesprit> well any other alternatives?
[08:01] <HEleo> e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb error while using gparted
[08:01] <HEleo> :(
[08:01] <bryant> Yay, 2 minutes until my ubuntu iso is done downloading and I can play with it in VirtualBox, yayyy
[08:01] <lstarnes> freazer, belesprit: I think I remember bhearing something about adobe making a 64-bit version of flasg
[08:01] <lstarnes> *flash
[08:01] <lstarnes> *hearing
[08:01] <psywiped> ok belesprit go to terminal and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:02] <Relentless> !offtopic
[08:02] <Gate> freazer: didn't they fix that, yet?
[08:02] <psywiped> there is a alpha 64bit flash but it keeps crashing FF
[08:02] <Gate> ah
[08:02] <Relentless> Gate join the offtopic
[08:02] <HEleo> e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb.... error while using gparted  help me :(
[08:02] <psywiped> i went back to the 32 bit one
[08:02] <savvas> darkblue_B: which ubuntu release did you try? ubuntu 8.04 ?
[08:02] <psywiped> i went back to the 32 bit one
[08:03] <darkblue_B> savvas: yes
[08:03] <psywiped> 8.10
[08:03] <belesprit> it says it could not find the package
[08:03] <ZiRiS> Freazer: good idea, but I'm not nearly as savvy on linux as I am with Windows. (It's what i learned because there was $ there.) What files would I copy over?
[08:03] <ZiRiS> and to where?
[08:03] <darkblue_B> 64bit amd  linux 2.6.24-23-generic
[08:03] <freazer> ZiRiS: looking into it
[08:03] <ZiRiS> freazer: tyvm!
[08:04] <HEleo> hi guys  how can i dual boot ubuntu and fedora
[08:04] <savvas> darkblue_B: have you tried newer ubuntu? 8.10 or the testing 9.04 ?
[08:04] <darkblue_B> oh.. no.. I had planned to stay at something stable on the tower..
[08:04] <ZiRiS> HEleo: grub?
[08:04] <n8tuser> HEleo-> put fedora on another partition and you can still share /home
[08:04] <psywiped> heleo make 2 partitions on your hdd and install
[08:04] <cahaya-05> oiweyfoisdng
[08:04] <darkblue_B> savvas: but if thats the case... hmm dont know
[08:05] <psywiped> bele you have to enable all the reporsitories
[08:05] <goodeeny> Нш
[08:05] <HEleo> did each os should have atleast one primary partion ??
[08:05] <goodeeny> Hi
[08:05] <savvas> darkblue_B: I would like to see if it's working at all with ubuntu
[08:05] <freazer> ZiRiS: first off, try Recovery Mode from GRUB boot loader if you have that option - you can uninstall your restricted drivers and reboot hopefully into normal Ubuntu with X working
[08:05] <n8tuser> HEleo-> yes
[08:05] <psywiped> each os needs to be on its own partition
[08:05] <darkblue_B> I suppose I could boot an iso and test that way , y?
[08:05] <joot> Hi x 1288
[08:06] <belesprit> psywiped your talking language i have not learned yep
[08:06] <belesprit> yet*
[08:06] <savvas> darkblue_B: download this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-4/jaunty-desktop-i386.iso - burn it, boot from it, do NOT install it - test if the firewire works
[08:06] <psywiped> dammit im not on ubunto right now i have to go from memory
[08:06] <freazer> ZiRiS: with a LiveCD, are you using LVM or mdadm for raid? if so you will need extra instructions to mount your existing partitions
[08:06] <psywiped> and ive been drinking
[08:06] <ZiRiS> freazer: I did. That was one of the first things I tried. It didn't do any good, actually matters got worse and I reinstalled. Same thing happened again. I'm not looking forward to another reinstall.
[08:06] <belesprit> nah i can look it up
[08:06] <darkblue_B> savvas: ok, might take a while for me
[08:07] <psywiped> it like system admin and smantic sources
[08:07] <psywiped> then check everything
[08:07] <belesprit> self determinism and all that
[08:07] <quibbler> !who | psywiped
[08:07] <HEleo> whenever i create /boot , /usr /  its created as primary partition .. is it possible to overrider that and llowing only 2 to be primary partion others should be in extended??
[08:08] <puneeth1> !kubuntu
[08:08]  * psywiped psywiped is a random figment of your imagamation that is based off you being drunk
[08:08] <ZiRiS> freazer: I have ubuntu installed on an IDE drive, but have 2 other SATA drives that are NOT in a raid configuration. One is windows, the other is misc storage. movies and such.
[08:08] <rww> !ot | psywiped
[08:08] <savvas> darkblue_B: I'll give you my email in private
[08:08] <psywiped> was that just a bot?
[08:09] <freazer> ZiRiS: I would expect the LiveCD to autodetect and mount those partitions then - I'm still looking for a good guide that details exactly what files to copy over to repair your X configuration
[08:09] <HEleo> ubottu: u r not a bot?? right?? :P
[08:09] <psywiped> ubottu your not helping
[08:10] <joot> psywyiped, you are conversing with a bot
[08:10] <ZiRiS> Here's a random question since I'm maybe looking at another reinstall. Is it possible to run Kubuntu with Ubuntu simultaneously? IE have the option for KDE or Gnome?
[08:10] <psywiped> joot: looks that way
[08:11] <joot> psywyiped, stay on topic
[08:11] <psywiped> yea jiris it is doing it on my hp tablet
[08:11] <Flannel> ZiRiS: yeah.  Install either kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop (whichever you don't have) and you can choose at the login screen
[08:11] <ZiRiS> And I do mean that last comment for everyone, hence no nick:
[08:11] <ZiRiS> oh, sweet.
[08:11] <ZiRiS> thx Flannel
[08:11] <psywiped> waite ziris what was the last commont?
[08:12] <ZiRiS> psywiped:
[08:12] <ZiRiS> psywiped:
[08:12] <ZiRiS> And I do mean that last comment for everyone, hence no nick:
[08:12] <ZiRiS> oops
[08:12] <FloodBot1> ZiRiS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <dreamer> anybody to talk with a bored girl?
[08:12] <HEleo> psywiped:  can u direct me place where i can dual boot ubuntu and fedora  i want to from the beginning  including the order of creating partions and grub configurations
[08:12] <Flannel> dreamer: Thats not on topic for this channel, please take it elsewhere.
[08:12] <jim_p> can anyone help me on apt-pinning?
[08:12] <dreamer> oops, sorry
[08:13] <HEleo> c anyone an u direct me place where i can dual boot ubuntu and fedora  i want to from the beginning  including the order of creating partions and grub configurations
[08:13] <puneeth1> !botsnack
[08:13] <harley> How come my open office is just all symbols, I can't understand anything?
[08:13] <psywiped> heleo just use gpart and make a partition for the 2nd os if you aready have ubuntu installed
[08:13] <freazer> ZiRiS: have you read http://www.robdian.co.uk/content/view/56/27/ ? it mentions your cart specifically - it's all command line which might be a useful last ditch effort
[08:14] <HEleo> psywiped: grub configuration
[08:14] <joot> jim_p, What is apt-pinning?
[08:14] <Bossmanbeta> jim_p, try this link on apt-pinning: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[08:14] <HEleo> psywiped: grub configuration please
[08:14] <skate2> gnome-do finds my files properly but it doesnt launch any of them, even tho when i click on the files properties it says the open with application fine and i can launch them into their associated programs fine in the normal file browser, just not gnome-do. any ideas?
[08:14] <ZiRiS> freazer: I haven't but will right now. Thx. :D
[08:14] <pantung> #ubuntu-dk
[08:14] <psywiped> if your starting from scrach only set up half of the hdd for and os and leave the other half unformated heleo
[08:14] <tritium> jim_p, joot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[08:14] <HEleo> psywiped: ok then can i share the same swap
[08:14] <freazer> ZiRiS: I think the only file you need to copy is the xorg.conf file, it should be located at /etc/X11/xorg.conf   -- copy this from your liveCD path (which is as written) to wherever your ubuntu partition is mounted
[08:14] <psywiped> when you install fedora it should take care of the grub part heleo
[08:15] <jim_p> thanks tritium Bossmanbeta
[08:15] <joot> tritium, Many thanks..
[08:15] <psywiped> should be able to share the swap
[08:15] <freazer> ZiRiS: I would assume any driver built into the LiveCD would be included in your installation
[08:15] <Ben_Cs> hello
[08:15] <harley> can anybody help me sort out openoffice.org?
[08:15] <psywiped> haven tried dual booting 2 linux distro so not sure
[08:15] <HEleo> psywiped: can i install fedora grub or configure the old linux grub to boot fedora laso
[08:15] <HEleo> *also
[08:15] <Ben_Cs> when trying to install ubuntu 8.10 my screen shows "out of range". Must i use "alternate cd"?
[08:15] <quibbler> pantung: try   /join #ubuntu-dk
[08:15] <jim_p> joot, in short, i want to be able to install packages from jaunty without the need of               sudo apt-get install -t jaunty wicd       for instance
[08:16] <ZiRiS> freazer: thx! wilco!
[08:16] <tauheed> anybody living....................
[08:16] <tauheed> ??????????????????????//
[08:16] <joot> jim_p, Would you not be better going to #ubuntu1?
[08:17] <freazer> ZiRiS: I hope it helps :-( dealing with broken X is _the #1 most frustrating thing_ for new Linux users IMO
[08:17] <tauheed> nop????????????????????????????/
[08:17] <pantung> yy i know quibbler i just forgot to type ;)
[08:17] <belesprit> Got another problem as well, nvidia drivers... try to install them using the system>>administration>>hardware drivers route. It detects them (versions 173 and 177) but when I try to activate them the load screen flashes up for a brief second and then closes. Running Ubuntu 8.10 64bit
[08:17] <quibbler> pantung: ;-)
[08:17] <freazer> tauheed, just ask your question rather than spamming the channel with ?'s
[08:17] <freazer> bah
[08:17] <jim_p> joot, no. i just need apt-pinning :P
[08:17] <joot> jim_p, OK :-)
[08:18] <ZiRiS> freazer: Indeed, I'm sure it is. If this doesn't work, I might just DL, burn and install Kubuntu.
[08:18] <psywiped> heleo im not sure i would think the grub would be the same and it would just auto configure like it does when you have windows installed. "this is me doing drunk tech support so dont expect to much"
[08:19] <HEleo> psywiped: ok thanks for a try ;)
[08:20] <freazer> ZiRiS: from command line (if broken X won't let you access terminal, try Ctrl-Alt-F1 or F2 to get to another terminal command line - and simply login and type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop as another user said above - it will change your default login stuff to KDE (which may be worth trying)
[08:20] <pantung> can someone tell me how to install GTK tememotot aurura ?
[08:20] <freazer> ZiRiS: but, from what I've seen Kubuntu is a very different experience, and you're right in that it could be worth trying
[08:21] <psywiped> pantu have you searched in the forums?
[08:21] <psywiped> freaz not a big fan of k feels clunky
[08:21] <pantung> nope i have not psywiped
[08:21] <SwitchMon44> using xubuntu here
[08:22] <pantung> i don't have a user yet :)
[08:22] <psywiped> make a user and do a search if you have truble then come back in here and ask
[08:22] <psywiped> 99 out of 100 it has the answer
[08:23] <adante> bwayne: hey i just booted the arch cd and it starts up to a... grub prompt?
[08:23] <pantung> kay i'll do ty :D
[08:23] <pantung> i'm just not that good at english thats why ;)
[08:23] <owner> anyone know how I access the Desktop directory from the root terminal?
[08:24] <psywiped> i think its in /home/username
[08:24] <Gate> owner: /home/username/Desktop
[08:24] <owner> cd /home/username/Desktop?
[08:24] <Gate> yes
[08:24] <owner> k, what commands lists all directories
[08:25] <Gate> ls
[08:25] <psywiped> yep close enough for 6 beers down 6 to go
[08:25] <Gate> owner: basic command line navigation: ls lists files and directories from your current, cd moves
[08:25] <owner> I typed ls -a and it showed a bunch (files?) like .profile .gnome etc
[08:26] <owner> but there wasn't any home etc listed
[08:26] <psywiped> cool dir does to in ubuntu
[08:26] <bryant> What CD is it that gives you the option to install the Ubuntu Server with a GUI? I'm pretty sure I've done it before...
[08:26] <psywiped> man i have more fun with ubuntu server than i do with ubuntu desktop
[08:27] <\Kira> Im trying to install ubuntu server without cd-rom or setting up a netboot server and such. I found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet and its perfect, but its for ubuntu 8.04. I want 8.10 server. Any idea how to get it?
[08:27] <bryant> psywiped, did you install text only for server?
[08:27] <owner> why doesn't ls show /home?
[08:27] <\Kira> owner: because your in you home directory
[08:27] <bryant> Owner, are you in the root directory?
[08:27] <owner> it doesn't show username either though
[08:27] <psywiped> bryant yes only have ssh on the server no gui
[08:27] <\Kira> owner: ls shows the contents of the directory your currently in
[08:28] <bryant> What are you using for IRC, psywiped? irssi?
[08:28] <\Kira> owner: in the shell, it shows your location. ~ is short for your home
[08:28] <psywiped> did install webmin tho
[08:28] <savvas> or $HOME (case sensitive) :)
[08:28] <psywiped> bryant im on vista right now using hydra
[08:28] <owner> well, how do I list the directories?
[08:28] <bryant> Oh, fail.
[08:29] <bryant> =P
[08:29] <owner> what command will show /username etc?
[08:29] <\Kira> owner: I dont think your understanding the command
[08:29] <psywiped> owner are you in ssh?
[08:29] <psywiped> owner: connecting to an server?
[08:29] <bryant> psywiped, I'm about to install server in VirtualBox to play with it and Virtual environments inside of VB.
[08:29] <owner> I logged oout and went into recovery mode to get to the root prompt
[08:29] <\Kira> owner: imagine your using a file browser, right? It is showing the contents of the directory your in on the screen. thats ls
[08:30] <\Kira> owner: if you change to a directory, thats using the "cd" command.
[08:30] <psywiped> bryant my server is siting in my basment 1200mils away an i use ssh and sftp to acces it
[08:30] <owner> right
[08:30] <\Kira> owner: type "cd ..", then ls
[08:30] <quibbler> owner: have a look here: http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/tutorials/linuxdirectorystructure/
[08:30] <\Kira> owner: the cd command will bring you up a directory
[08:30] <owner> what command shows me the directories in /home?
[08:30] <\Kira> owner: ls /home/
[08:31] <bryant> psywiped, that awesome! What are you primarily using the box for?
[08:31] <owner> k
[08:31] <psywiped> bryant torrent and http
[08:31] <owner> thanks I'll try that
[08:31] <owner> bbiab
[08:31] <psywiped> bryant as well as a ssh tunnel for when im on wifi
[08:31] <bryant> Running a website off the box, psywiped?
[08:31] <\Kira> Im trying to install ubuntu server without cd-rom or setting up a netboot server and such. I found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet and its perfect, but its for ubuntu 8.04. I want 8.10 server. Any idea how to get it?
[08:31] <psywiped> bryant just a personal one
[08:31] <psywiped> i have a hosted server as well'
[08:32] <pronoy> how do i download sun-jave6-jre on windows using wget ? i mean what is the url ?
[08:32] <psywiped> pronoy you cant
[08:32] <savvas> pronoy: you mean the package?
[08:32] <psywiped> prony i thin wget is a kde command
[08:32] <pronoy> yes the package
[08:33] <pronoy> psywiped: then what is the point of wget for windows ? offline package installation
[08:33] <psywiped> prony not sure
[08:33] <psywiped> prony did you install the kde for windows?
[08:33] <savvas> pronoy: you can get the ubuntu .deb package at http://packages.ubuntu.com/sun-jave6-jre - you have to click on the distribution you want and on the next page on your architecture (amd64 or i386)
[08:34] <pronoy> savvas: the dependencies aren't satisfied...that's the problem
[08:34] <\Kira> im trying to use make to compile something. First it complains about having no C compiler, so I install gcc. Now it alerts me that my C compiler cant create executionables.
[08:34] <psywiped> pronoy what os are you using
[08:34] <pronoy> psywiped : no why would i want to ????!
[08:34] <savvas> pronoy: I'm a bit puzzled, are you using a windows or a linux operating system?
[08:34] <pronoy> i am using intrepid
[08:35] <psywiped> prony thats not windows
[08:35] <savvas> pronoy: or are you trying to get all the packages for a pc without internet?
[08:35] <pronoy> but i have an internet connection with my windows machine
[08:35] <psywiped> prony use the apt-get install command
[08:35] <nmlinuz> ubuntu jaunty alpha boots in 24 sec from grub to my desktop...that's amazing!!! :D
[08:35] <bryant> Kira, download the build-essientials package
[08:35] <pronoy> so i am trying for the offline package installation
[08:35] <\Kira> bryant: thanks
[08:35] <bryant> np
[08:35] <savvas> pronoy: is the ubuntu 32-bit or 64-bit?
[08:36] <pronoy> download all packages on windows and transport to linux....savas: its a 32 bit
[08:36] <pronoy> i386
[08:36] <bryant> Kira, that should take care of most of you problems, but it depends on what you're compiling. The build-essientials package takes cares of a LOT.
[08:37] <psywiped> prony its a lot easer if you connect the system to the interweb
[08:37] <pronoy> psywiped, savvas ?
[08:37] <pronoy> psywiped: but i can't thats the problem
[08:37] <pronoy> :)
[08:37] <psywiped> wny hot?
[08:37] <pronoy> different machines different locations
[08:37] <psywiped> ?
[08:37] <psywiped> bring the system with yoju
[08:38] <pronoy> psywiped: i need to install a socks proxy client to run the internet at my place..to do that ubuntu i need JRE6 package....so i can do that using windows right now because there is no issue of dependecies and stuff
[08:39] <savvas> pronoy: download these: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/unixodbc/unixodbc_2.2.11-16build2_i386.deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java6/sun-java6-jre_6-10-0ubuntu2_all.deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java6/sun-java6-bin_6-10-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[08:39] <pronoy> savvas: before i do...how did you get these urls ?
[08:40] <savvas> pronoy: transfer them to your ubuntu on your desktop, open a terminal and execute these commands: 1) cd Desktop 2) sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[08:40] <savvas> pronoy: I followed some dependencies on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:40] <pronoy> savvas: so i can download them using wget on windows :) thats great
[08:41] <psywiped> 7of12 beers im so confused now
[08:41] <savvas> pronoy: well, you can try, if it needs anything else, you can get that too, one by one, but I think these three is what it needs. when you're done with the above, execute: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:42] <psywiped> pronoy your trying to confgure a proxy but its not configured to connect ot the net?
[08:42] <savvas> psywiped: simple, he's downloading on say MACHINE 1 that has windows, and installs the deb packages on MACHINE 2 that has ubuntu
[08:42] <psywiped> but where does the socks proxy come in?
[08:43] <savvas> maybe he wants a local network
[08:43] <savvas> I don't know :P
[08:44] <psywiped> you know for all the people on here thres not that many trying to help
[08:44] <pronoy> psywiped: ok i think i wasn't clear before, my mistake. Your-freedom a socks proxy software allows me to connect to the internet because of restrictions by the server admin...now i have this one on windows and to update ubuntu i need the same on ubuntu. Now to install it on ubuntu i need various packages...which is why i got wget for windows...(sourceforge.net gnu32)
[08:45] <pronoy> get it ?
[08:45] <psywiped> id just bring the box home
[08:46] <pronoy> psywiped: my home is like 500 miles from my college :) so not a possibility
[08:46] <pronoy> savvas: thanks a lot...i'll bug you if i have anything else
[08:47] <psywiped> this is why i have a ubuntu server at home just make a ssh tunnel and get on the net thru that
[08:48] <Guest13307> Hi, I'm trying to find the C++ docs with API's for the STL, I've installed libstdc++6-4.3-doc and stl-manual but if I try 'man map' or man 'vector' I don't get anything up...
[08:48] <savvas> pronoy: sure, but I think I'll be away, starting in 5 minutes or so - if apt needs more packages, you just go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/yourpackage and look for the one you need
[08:49] <pronoy> savvas: sure thinkg
[08:49] <pronoy> thanks
[08:50] <arvind_khadri> hi , the restricted drivers searches the drivers for ever...is there a way to install them through the terminal?
[08:50] <savvas> pronoy: just wondering though, why do you need a specific proxy software, when you can set a proxy server in System > Preferences > Network proxy ?
[08:51] <pronoy> savvas: heard of cyberroam ? its made my life hell
[08:51] <tritium> arvind_khadri: sure.  nvidia or ati?
[08:51] <psywiped> pronoy never herd of cyberroam what is it?
[08:51] <arvind_khadri> tritium, nvidia 7300 gt
[08:51] <savvas> so I suppose you need to login to use internet? or something like that :P
[08:52] <pronoy> psywiped: its the worst thing ever one could have made to restrict interntet access
[08:52] <ch0d3> hi, i am trying to install vga11x19.pcf.gz - i have tried placing it in /usr/share/fonts.. and ~/.fonts and updated the font cache but still cant seem to use it. any ideas how to get it to work?
[08:52] <arvind_khadri> tritium, 177 driver...
[08:52] <psywiped> pronoy it what way?
[08:52] <e-frame> hello all, can we put an external antenna for internal mini pcie wifi card ?
[08:52] <pronoy> savvas correct and using network proxy fscks the bandwidth
[08:52] <tritium> arvind_khadri: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177, in that case.
[08:52] <ch0d3> trying to get it to work with rxvt on ubuntu 8.10
[08:52] <arvind_khadri> tritium, the restricted ones right?
[08:52] <pronoy> psywiped: it restricts your download limit and time
[08:52] <tritium> arvind_khadri: there is -180 available, if you prefer the newest
[08:53] <pronoy> psywiped: i have access to like only 20 mb of download !! can you believe that ??!?!?
[08:53] <psywiped> dam i would use that up in one page
[08:53] <arvind_khadri> tritium, cant see them here :) and jockey-gtk recommends me for 177
[08:53] <tritium> !info nvidia-glx-180
[08:53] <pronoy> savvas: the good thing about your-freedom like softwares is that they keep on changing the network proxies
[08:54] <tritium> arvind_khadri: ^^
[08:54] <pronoy> so that you can keep on using various servers ....if one fails
[08:54] <savvas> ah I see, you're getting sort of a key that the java client program acquires :P
[08:54] <psywiped> pronoy why not just use tor?
[08:54] <poet> is there any way to map meta to one of the windows keys?
[08:55] <savvas> well good luck pronoy - hope it works :)
[08:55] <poet> System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layouts > Other Options doesn't appear to do what i want
[08:55] <arvind_khadri> tritium, yup found it now... so which should i go with :)
[08:55] <pronoy> psywiped: i tried but i get amazingly low bandwidth
[08:55] <psywiped> yea tor is a little slow
[08:55] <pronoy> psywiped and your-freedom is exactly like tor but amazingly faster !!!!
[08:56] <psywiped> does an ssh tunnel to a home computer work?
[08:56] <poet> is there any way to remap meta to a specific key?
[08:56] <psywiped> poet you have to wait a few
[08:57] <psywiped> but right now it doesnt sound like anyone in here know how poet
[08:57] <poet> psywiped: I do, I just thought I phrased my origial question badly, because I don't actually care which key it gets remapped to
[08:57] <tritium> arvind_khadri: it's up to you.  The -180 doesn't work for everyone, so if it doesn't work, switch to the -177.
[08:58] <pronoy> psywiped: take a look at this its amazing !!! http://wubdepends.sourceforge.net/
[08:59] <psywiped> cool thats nice could have used it a year ago before 8.04 came out
[08:59] <amy_> yy
[09:02] <psywiped> amy because 7.10 made it realy hard to use a verizon celular data card
[09:04] <jim_p> has anyone used kpackage? dont tell me to use synaptic or adept, i know they exist
[09:04] <jim_p> !info kpackage
[09:04] <shaji> hi
[09:05] <suupaabaka> Hey there, I have a question regarding cron.
[09:05] <^cheeky> hi, what programs/  would you need to play urban terror the game in ubunut 8.10 ?
[09:05] <psywiped> suup its an old woman
[09:05] <suupaabaka> I'm new to Linux, and would like to know how to schedule a program to start and stop at a certain time
[09:05] <suupaabaka> And then automatically shutdown the PC
[09:06] <fantomas> Hi. When I run lilo on 8.04 I get message: Added Linux * \n: Warning: The initial RAM disk is too big to fit between the kernel and the 15M-16M memory hole.  It will be loaded in the highest memory asthough the configuration file specified "large-memory" and it will be assumed that the BIOS supports memory moves above 16M.
[09:06] <jim_p> suupaabaka, have a look at some cron frontend then
[09:06] <suupaabaka> jim_p, can you suggest one?
[09:06] <fantomas> Does this mean something goes wrong?
[09:06] <arvind_khadri> tritium, is this  2.6.27-3.4 out?
[09:07] <tritium> arvind_khadri: current on 8.10 is 2.6.27-11
[09:07] <jim_p> suupaabaka, gcrontab or kcron
[09:07] <suupaabaka> jimp, thanks
[09:07] <e-frame> !cron
[09:07] <ch0d3> anyone here know how to install pcf fonts?
[09:08] <arvind_khadri> tritium, which means that the h/w supported earlier should be supported now... my cam doesn't work...
[09:08] <psywiped> not i said the drunk man
[09:08] <jim_p> suupaabaka, if you want to do all this jobs you mentioned at once, you will need a script
[09:08] <tritium> psywiped: stay on topic
[09:08] <arvind_khadri> tritium, it was added in the kernel version i told you
[09:08] <tritium> arvind_khadri: which kernel module does it use?
[09:08] <jim_p> fantomas, may i ask why lilo and not grub?
[09:08] <suupaabaka> jim_p, Ah, I see. I have no idea how to make one :(
[09:08] <arvind_khadri> tritium, gspca
[09:09] <jim_p> suupaabaka, what exactly do you want to do?
[09:09] <Naisel> Did the game take place at night
[09:09] <fantomas> jim_p: well, I was living with lilo for 6 years on Debian.. thats the reason :)
[09:10] <tritium> arvind_khadri: there are several gspca modules in /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/.  Which one does yours use?  Is it loaded?
[09:10] <jim_p> fantomas, oh lol
[09:10] <Naisel> can i say something
[09:10] <Naisel> about lilo en grub
[09:10] <suupaabaka> jim_p, I'd like to start Deluge bittorrent client at 3:05AM and close it at 8:55AM, then shutdown the PC every day
[09:10] <fantomas> jim_p: boot loading is kind of magic for me. I know how lilo works, roughly speaking. Afraid of new modern thingies :)
[09:10] <jim_p> sure Naisel
[09:10] <arvind_khadri> tritium, the device is recognized as Microdia
[09:11] <jim_p> fantomas, all i know is that lilo stores its settings in /etc/lilo and grub in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:11] <genii> arvind_khadri: Mostly curious... is this a MS vx6000 webcam?
[09:11] <arvind_khadri> tritium, the sonixj.ko
[09:11] <fantomas> jim_p: usually I ignore most of lilo warnings. Just sligtly surprised I see some on stable Ubuntu on stock kernel
[09:11] <arvind_khadri> genii, its a intex night vision cam...
[09:12] <Naisel> jim_p Okay usu grub for 2 years and my experience has been great
[09:12] <jim_p> suupaabaka, i am not that good at scripting but let me make a try
[09:12] <arvind_khadri> genii, any idea how to make it work
[09:12] <eMaX> hi all
[09:12] <Naisel> what is you problem with grub jim_p
[09:12] <suupaabaka> jim_p, much appreciated
[09:12] <Naisel> hi
[09:12] <jim_p> Naisel, none
[09:12] <Naisel> ok
[09:12] <arvind_khadri> tritium, ??
[09:12] <tritium> arvind_khadri: have you tried loading the module it needs if it's not loaded already?
[09:12] <genii> arvind_khadri: Ah. I had a helluva time with the microdia drivers and the vx6000. The intex I don't know much about
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> tritium, not yet...
[09:13] <fantomas> Naisel: it was me having a problem with lilo )
[09:13] <jim_p> suupaabaka, does deluge need X to run? or can ir run like a daemon?
[09:13] <Naisel> currently use version 2 of grub, but I better get used to the version 1 jim_p
[09:13] <suupaabaka> jim_p, I think it needs X
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> tritium, lsmod shows its loaded
[09:13] <Naisel> fantomas what is you problem with lilo
[09:14] <tritium> arvind_khadri: then what have you done to test if it works?
[09:14] <Naisel> fantomas I do not like lilo to use once and never understood it
[09:14] <fantomas> Naisel: When I run lilo on 8.04 I get message: Added Linux * \n Warning: The initial RAM disk is too big to fit between the kernel and the 15M-16M memory hole.  It will be loaded in the highest memory asthough the configuration file specified "large-memory" and it will be assumed that the BIOS supports memory moves above 16M.
[09:14] <arvind_khadri> tritium, kopete.. shows me black screen
[09:14] <ch0d3> hm, its seems to load with xterm, any reason it wont with rxvt?
[09:15] <jim_p> suupaabaka, sorry mate :(
[09:15] <tritium> arvind_khadri: try cheese
[09:15] <fantomas> Naisel: this happens with stock kernel, thats why I worry
[09:15] <arvind_khadri> tritium, ok
[09:15] <suupaabaka> jim_p, no worries! Thanks for your advice, though. I'll read up on it
[09:15] <Naisel> fantomas could be your bios
[09:15] <Stefano> Hi all, Why I cannot find the link to open network in Open wizard with OpenOffice 2.4 on 8.04 LTS? Any idea?
[09:16] <Naisel> or memory
[09:16] <Naisel> just read the message
[09:16] <jim_p> suupaabaka, is is something like                  at 3.05 deluge (below line)        at 8.55 killall deluge && poweroff
[09:16] <Naisel> fantomas you understand the message
[09:17] <quibbler> ch0d3: http://www.nazgum.com/2007/12/09/ubuntu-pcf-fonts/
[09:17] <jim_p> suupaabaka, but you will need sudo rights for the poweroff AND i dont know if the at syntax is correct
[09:17] <suupaabaka> jim_p, gotcha, I'll try to figure it out
[09:18] <Naisel> fantomas You searched for information in the guides ubuntu
[09:18] <captain_> where r u from?
[09:18] <Naisel> who me
[09:18] <fantomas> omg
[09:18] <captain_> everyone
[09:19] <Naisel> DR
[09:19] <captain_> what is dr?
[09:19] <fantomas> Naisel, jim_p : this message not related to Linux, but to next line which is LinuxOLD, and that one is my custom kernel :)
[09:20] <jim_p> :S
[09:20] <fantomas> which is weird
[09:20] <tritium> captain_: stay on topic, please
[09:20] <captain_> what is the topic?
[09:20] <c0p3rn1c> isnt there a chat client that doesnt show everyone leaving and entering  in the chat window?
[09:20] <tritium> c0p3rn1c: set your client to ignore that
[09:21] <psywiped> captain_: the rise and fall of the 3rd empire
[09:21] <captain_> really?
[09:21] <ch0d3> quibbler: thanks ill check it out
[09:21] <psywiped> yeo
[09:21] <c0p3rn1c> tritium: which one are you using ?
[09:21] <tritium> c0p3rn1c: irssi
[09:21] <Naisel> fantomas would help you put your problem in forum http://www.codigolibre.org
[09:21] <c0p3rn1c> tritium: ok thx
[09:22] <c0p3rn1c> xchat cant do that as far as I know
[09:22] <jim_p> has anyone used kpackage? dont tell me to use synaptic or adept, i know they exist
[09:22] <fosco_> c0p3rn1c: xchat can do it also
[09:22] <c0p3rn1c> xchat-gnome ? how ?
[09:22] <fosco_> c0p3rn1c: no, xchat
[09:23] <tritium> c0p3rn1c: it should be able to
[09:23] <c0p3rn1c> fosco, ah k thx
[09:23] <psywiped> c0 you have to compille it yourself
[09:23] <lstarnes> psywiped: xchat does not need to be compiled manually
[09:23] <fantomas> Naisel: I can't read spain or portugues
[09:23] <quibbler> c0p3rn1c: right click on the #ubuntu tab and make sure the show join/part is not checked
[09:23] <lstarnes> psywiped: there are packages for it
[09:24] <c0p3rn1c> quibbler: k thx!
[09:24] <psywiped> o they dont make you pay for the linux verson like they do for the windows one?
[09:24] <Naisel> fantomas do not worry who maintains the forum can read and speak English
[09:24] <lstarnes> psywiped: just the windows one
[09:24] <fantomas> Naisel: but my mother can - she teaches Spanish in Moscow :)
[09:24] <Naisel> ok
[09:25] <fantomas> http://www.codigolibre.org
[09:25] <fantomas> oops wrong clipboard
[09:25] <fantomas> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2033779&group_id=64331&atid=507105
[09:25] <Naisel> what is that
[09:25] <Bram> does anybody know the windows command to reboot from a cd?
[09:25] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me how to make buttons using gimp
[09:25] <fantomas> very important patch, suggested in July. Why its not applied?
[09:25] <Naisel> ok
[09:25] <fantomas> Naisel: this should fix long line problem in KCachegrind...
[09:25] <prakka> Bram: i think you can only set that in the BIOS
[09:26] <Naisel> fantomas ok
[09:26]  * you are one with the matrix
[09:26] <Bram> prakka: ok, can you tell how to access the BIOS?
[09:26] <quibbler> DarkKnight: check in #gimp
[09:26] <prakka> btw, synaptic crashes on startup and apt-get says: faulty segmentation three
[09:26]  * you are not insane
[09:26] <Naisel> Bram I think in this channel will not help you with commands windows
[09:26] <fantomas> Bram: /j windows
[09:27] <prakka> Bram: probably pressing <DEL> or <F2> on startup
[09:27] <captain_> don't you know how to get in the bios?
[09:27] <fantomas> Bram: try F8 also, some BIOSes show boot menu
[09:28] <captain_> how can i see other users in xchat?
[09:28] <Naisel> fantomas a question out of how many languages you know
[09:28] <DarkKnight> quibbler; i already asked there...they are helpless...so i asked here..incase if anyone knows
[09:28] <jim_p> has anyone used kpackage? dont tell me to use synaptic or adept, i know they exist
[09:28] <Bram> NI'm in the Bios and I did say boot from cd, hopefully I can install ubuntu now
[09:29] <Naisel> fantomas how long you've been using linux
[09:29] <c0p3rn1c> !kde
[09:30] <captain_> i' m using ubuntu fot a couple of weeks now
[09:30] <kalle> how do i change channel
[09:30] <lstarnes> kalle: /join #channel
[09:31] <kalle> thanks
[09:31] <jim_p> c0p3rn1c, thanks, but that was not my point
[09:31] <captain_> i think its great
[09:31] <zool> !german
[09:31] <c0p3rn1c> jim_p, what was your point then ?
[09:32] <quibbler> DarkKnight: if no one answer try here: http://docs.gimp.org/
[09:32] <mbuts> kyui;io
[09:32] <mbuts> ko
[09:32] <mbuts> oi
[09:32] <mbuts> ik
[09:32] <FloodBot1> mbuts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <Naisel> fantomas could find help
[09:32] <e-frame> !ban
[09:33] <jim_p> c0p3rn1c, how do i install a package from it and why does it mess them in weird categories
[09:33] <ch0d3> strange - i can load the font in vim but not any terminals..
[09:33] <kalle> does someone know how to update video card drivers?
[09:34] <arvind_khadri> tritium, yay got compiz :) cheese sees my cam...but i want kopete to see it too :(
[09:34] <quibbler> DarkKnight: or here: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
[09:34] <captain_> kalle r u german?
[09:34] <Chapai> how do i convert a mkv video with a selectable subtitles, into an avi with hard coded subtiltles
[09:34] <kalle> captain finnish
[09:34] <tritium> arvind_khadri: sorry, can't help with kopete.  I don't use KDE.
[09:34] <sikun> i just got a laptop today, and it has a AMD Athlon 64 in it, i was just wondering should i install the 64bit version of ubuntu because i can? lol.. may sound like a dumb question just wondering if its worth it or would i even notice a difference from the 32bit version.
[09:34] <tritium> captain_: how is that relevent to the topic (ubuntu support)?
[09:34] <tritium> relevant, even
[09:34] <Ryiel> Hey Guys, I wanna install ubuntu 8.10 on a laptop with via chipset and via chrome. Kinda old one. 8.10 freezes after loading gdm, alternative install does not work, it splits the screen in half with some overlay. I've found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome <-- and it says i should edit the xorg.conf. Can i edit the xorg.conf somehow before the livecd loads gdm? Thanks
[09:34] <arvind_khadri> tritium, any other gnome messenger which has good cam support?
[09:35] <pantung> hey i have a problem, i have a Asus P5QL motherboard , my sound is not working, i have tryed alsamixer, and 3 diff. players VLC XBMC and Amarok
[09:35] <kalle> I want to update my ati driver but dunno how
[09:35] <tritium> arvind_khadri: ekiga
[09:35] <captain_> don't u have a wiki in your language
[09:35] <c0p3rn1c> jim_p, just use apt-get or aptitude, it's the same for kde packages, kde packages usually start with a k
[09:35] <L0neWo1f> sikun, differences aren't that noticeable I've found.  you might run into programs that don't like 64-bit too.  maybe try a liveCD to see how it runs first
[09:35] <arvind_khadri> tritium, does it connect to yahoo?
[09:36] <tritium> arvind_khadri: no
[09:36] <sikun> L0neWo1f: ah, ok, and one more question if you happen to know or not.. i have the ati x1200 video chipset you happen to know if that is well supported?
[09:36] <L0neWo1f> why not use pidgin for multi protocol IM ?
[09:36] <c0p3rn1c> jim_p: amarok is my favorite kde program/package
[09:36] <captain_> pidgin is shit
[09:36] <jami> why
[09:36] <L0neWo1f> sikun, can't help you there  >_>  I'm relatively new to Ubuntu but I know I've had 64-bit issues with some things
[09:36] <sikun> L0neWo1f: well actually one last question.. what kind of programs would i have problems with?
[09:36] <L0neWo1f> captain_ that's your opinion
[09:36] <sikun> ah, cool
[09:37] <captain_> that's right
[09:37] <c0p3rn1c> hmmz a nice function would be to hide people exiting UNLESS you are talking to them :)
[09:37] <captain_> my opinion
[09:37] <jim_p> c0p3rn1c, it was on my "basic" kde4 installation and i dont want to "pollute" it with gtk yet
[09:37] <pantung> can anyone help me with that?
[09:37] <jaxx2kde> hi i am trying to "sudo apt-get install airsnort" but i am not able to find it in the repositories
[09:37] <Naisel> already know that Alan Cox resigned in Red Hat
[09:37] <L0neWo1f> sikun, the only thing that really cried was Skype and flash but there are ways to install those still on 64-bit
[09:37] <SliMM> hello
[09:37] <pantung> hey i have a problem, i have a Asus P5QL motherboard , my sound is not working, i have tryed alsamixer, and 3 diff. players VLC XBMC and Amarok
[09:37] <sikun> L0neWo1f: ah, ok, well thank you very much
[09:37] <SliMM> i have a problem with ubuntu minimal cd installation
[09:37] <c0p3rn1c> jim_p: I'm sorry but I don't see the problem
[09:37] <L0neWo1f> sikun, np  :)
[09:37] <Naisel> he is now with Intel
[09:38] <c0p3rn1c> Paraselene_: try using OSS
[09:38] <O__o> hi, how to send message to other user in the same message?  except write user
[09:38] <Relentless> SliMM What is the issue
[09:38] <c0p3rn1c> !OSS | Para
[09:38] <cpk1> I need a way to have my firewall send its info for logging somewhere else so my syslog and what not isnt full of firewall spam, any ideas?
[09:38] <O__o> i mean same machine
[09:38] <Relentless> O__o Send what?
[09:38] <jim_p> c0p3rn1c, i am just testing kde4 for now so...
[09:38] <jami> why are people so averse to mix gtk with qt
[09:39] <Relentless> echo msghere |wall
[09:39] <O__o> send msg to other user in the same machine
[09:39] <Ryiel> Hey Guys, I wanna install ubuntu 8.10 on a laptop with via chipset and via chrome. Kinda old one. 8.10 freezes after loading gdm, alternative install does not work, it splits the screen in half with some overlay. I've found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome <-- and it says i should edit the xorg.conf. Can i edit the xorg.conf somehow before the livecd loads gdm? Thanks
[09:39] <c0p3rn1c> !sound | Paraselene_
[09:39] <SliMM> grub throws error 23, hard disk not found, and when i go into rescue mode, and try to reinstall grub, it gives a fatal error, no matter what hard disk/device i choose
[09:39] <O__o> more than 1 user logon to the same machine
[09:39] <captain_> this is to fast
[09:39] <Relentless> Ryiel, No you cant write to a CD
[09:39] <Avelino> Hello, how do I install YUM on ubuntu, now I have a mirror of CentOS and I do a version of Ubuntu for personal use only as packages. YUM rpm with the manager?
[09:39] <Relentless> O__o echo wall send to all users
[09:39] <kronix> Anybody else tried 9.04 Alpha 5 and had trouble installing it to disk? Trying to install it disk within the live session launches the console for about a second, then does nothing thereafter. Trying to install it from the CD menu launches the live session. I'm running it in a Virtual Machine, and the disc check reports an error with one file - but I want to be sure before I download the image again.
[09:39] <Ryiel> Relentless: I know but no chance to edit it on the fly?
[09:40] <Relentless> Avelino sudo apt-get install yum
[09:40] <Bram> My xp isn't really working anymore, so I'm trying to install ubuntu. I did say boot from cd and then install ubuntu, but is it normal that it does take some time?
[09:40] <O__o> Relentless, what about email or some kinda offline msg?
[09:40] <Relentless> I think there is a package "alien"
[09:40] <Relentless> O__o Leave a not in there mail
[09:40] <O__o> so that when the user is logon later he will get the message?
[09:40] <O__o> how to do that?
[09:40] <Avelino> Relenless The Ubuntu loses some stability using YUM?
[09:41] <Relentless> Avelino not that I am aware of, I knwo not all programs can be installed that way
[09:41] <Relentless> It is best to find the source or the deb
[09:41] <Naisel> sorry someone can tell me if it would be desirable to configure a firewall with a specific distribution or is it better to do with shorewall
[09:42] <c0p3rn1c> btw are there any people in here who recently suddenly had trouble with theire sound too (Intel HD)?
[09:42] <captain_> i hab dproblems with tuxguitar
[09:42] <captain_> didn't get any sound
[09:42] <Naisel> capitan what is tuxguitar a distribution
[09:43] <c0p3rn1c> I'm getting a strange kind of static noise
[09:43] <arvind_khadri> tritium, how do i check which driver the cam uses?
[09:43] <jami> captain_: probably your midi device
[09:43] <Relentless> O__o to answer you question better, get mailutils and use mail -s to send the mail to the localhost.
[09:43] <kikokos> hi
[09:43] <captain_> it's a program for guitar tablature
[09:43] <jami> captain_: i also have problems with tuxguitar and the standard soundbank
[09:43] <captain_> yeah i konow
[09:44] <Relentless> That doesnt sound like a linuc problem, use there fourms to fix it. There isnt much we can do hwre.
[09:44] <Relentless> *linuc
[09:44] <Relentless> z
[09:44] <Relentless> x
[09:44] <Bram> My xp isn't really working anymore, so I'm trying to install ubuntu. I did say boot from cd and then install ubuntu, but is it normal that it does take some time?
[09:44] <Relentless> f u x
[09:44] <captain_> i treid a few midi devices
[09:44] <FloodBot1> Relentless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:44] <kikokos> i have a .avi movie and i cannot watch this (color are black-white with green "wave"), could anybody tell me how to fix it?
[09:44] <Relentless> Sorry FloodBot1 <3
[09:44] <jami> captain_: if you run it in a console you will see the error
[09:44] <kikokos> (i use vlc,mplayer,smplayer and codecs w32codecs and non-free-codecs)
[09:45] <Relentless> kikokos sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:45] <SliMM> Relentless, any idea?
[09:45] <Naisel> Bram I am glad that your not running windows
[09:45] <kikokos> Relentless, it's my favourite movie player :)
[09:45] <Bram> Naisel, first I did, but when I started using ubuntu I don't want to use it anymore
[09:45] <quibbler> kikokos: bad download?
[09:46] <e-frame> yesterday my vlc gives me b/w in color movie, then i restart x and then i got the color
[09:46] <captain_> i'm just learning how to use the console
[09:46] <e-frame> #gave
[09:46] <Relentless> SliMM try to rescure the drive
[09:46] <kikokos> quibbler, i don't know but i have it with 3 movies, all in avi and all from one person
[09:46] <SliMM> Relentless, how?
[09:46] <Relentless> if that doesnt work, try using the LIVE cd to fix it
[09:46] <tritium> arvind_khadri: sorry, I keep falling asleep.  I need to go to bed.  Good night.
[09:46] <Relentless> There is a rescue option on the LIVE CD
[09:47] <jami> its ten in the morning
[09:47] <captain_> jami do u use tux?
[09:47] <quibbler> kikokos: try another avi not from this person
[09:47] <kikokos> do you know another codecs except w32?
[09:47] <captain_> here it is almos 11 pm i gueass
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> tritium, thanks for all the help
[09:47] <Naisel> Bram but did not even use it, and you questions to get windows
[09:48] <jami> captain_: I tried to because it supports guitar pro files. But I've a midi problem on my machine
[09:48] <captain_> no a.m.
[09:48] <Bram> Naisel, No I want to install ubuntu on a laptop with windows xp (which is also full of unwanted things, so I want everything away)
[09:48] <Naisel> jami what is your problem
[09:48]  * e-frame is under a glass moon ^^
[09:48] <captain_> so u didn't fix it?
[09:49] <kikokos> quibbler, yea, another works, what's wrong with this movies? on win there are ok...
[09:49] <captain_> a few times i got sound
[09:49] <captain_> but it didn't sound really good
[09:49] <Relentless> O__o Also try the write command..
[09:49] <O__o> Relentless, is there both way messaging in linux?
[09:49] <kikokos> quibbler, they are made with bad application on  win, or what?
[09:49] <jami> Naisel: i don't know my midi device does not speak to me anymore. Before upgrading to ibex i got a midi throughput error
[09:49] <Bram> Naisel, it did say error reading boot cd, shall I try again or is it something else?
[09:50] <Relentless> O__o yes they are write would be the best to use in  your situation
[09:50] <O__o> i got the write command.  but what if the user is offline and i want to give him a msg
[09:50] <captain_> i just installed windows to use guitar pro
[09:50] <O__o> but write isnt both way
[09:51] <Naisel> which one ubuntu boot cd
[09:51] <Naisel> Bram
[09:51] <kikokos> quibbler, do you know what is wrong?
[09:51] <quibbler> kikokos: i have no idea but if other avi's work there is something different...it is strange that they work in windows and not with vlc, i've never had that
[09:51] <Droopsta915> Im running xp in vbox. My host is Linux. when I attatch to host interface, what should the setup application be?
[09:51] <Bram> Naisel, just one that I had here (ubuntu 8.04 it is, I will update)
[09:51] <O__o> i got it write is kinda cool
[09:51] <gotamatw> Hi! Is there any howto on how to install a scanner on a thin client?
[09:52] <kkb110> anybody know how to install 32bit libraries on 64bit linux????
[09:52] <O__o> but if the user is offline i guess i need some other thing
[09:52] <jami> How do I list my accessible midi device ports
[09:52] <captain_> in tux?
[09:52] <jami> no
[09:52] <jami> in ubuntu
[09:52] <gordonjcp> jami: amidi -l
[09:53] <gordonjcp> jami: if you do MIDI stuff, you will come to know and love amidi ;-)
[09:53] <jami> hm nothing
[09:53] <gordonjcp> jami: What exactly are you trying to do?
[09:53] <Naisel> Bram if you want to install both operating systems together, you first need to install linux because windows does not share the boot. So you have a backup of all your data in windows and then install windows again.
[09:53] <jami> gordonjcp: bring midi to work
[09:53] <jami> did i need timidity
[09:54] <gordonjcp> jami: depends what you're trying to do ;-)
[09:54] <jami> gordonjcp: bring midi to work :-P overall to run tuxguitar
[09:54] <Bram> Naisel, No I want everything that I had before and in the windows to be gone
[09:54] <gordonjcp> jami: timidity is a kind of software soundcard that plays back MIDI
[09:54] <gordonjcp> jami: or rather, software sample player
[09:55] <arvind_khadri> hi,cheese sees my cam, but kopete doesnt...what can i do???
[09:55] <gordonjcp> jami: are you trying to use timidity to play back MIDI sequences?
[09:55] <Naisel> Bram you can have it all, just install linux and then mount the Windows partition is easy
[09:55] <jami> gordonjcp: at least I thought every soundcard has its crappy build-in midi sampling
[09:55] <gordonjcp> jami: some do, some don't
[09:56] <gordonjcp> jami: a lot of modern cards don't seem to
[09:56] <jami> gordonjcp: i think tuxguitar uses streaming features of midi
[09:56] <Bram> Naisel, I did choose the language and then I said install ubuntu, but then it does nothing anymore
[09:56] <gordonjcp> jami: anyway, you're not trying to hook up external MIDI devices/
[09:56] <gordonjcp> ?
[09:57] <jami> no only internal use. I'm too poor for hardware :-D
[09:57] <gordonjcp> okay, I'm just installing a few things
[09:57] <jami> only tuxguitar
[09:57] <gotamatw> Any information on how to install a scanner on a thin client?
[09:58] <Relentless> gotamatw Elaborate on thin client
[09:58] <gordonjcp> gotamatw: same as any other system
[09:58] <Naisel> Bram okay but what I tell you, you have a backup of all data in your windows and put them in a separate hard drive, then install Linux and mount the Windows partition
[09:58] <gotamatw> LTSP, a server and a thin client (workstation).
[09:58] <Relentless> A ubunut thin client?
[09:59] <captain_> what is a thin client?
[09:59] <Bram> Naisel, no I don't want windows anymore, or anything else that's on the computer right now. I just want to install ubuntu and that everything else is gone
[09:59] <O__o> hi i am living in canada, why connecting to US ubuntu server is faster than canadian server when doing update?
[09:59] <captain_> can't find translation
[09:59] <gotamatw> UBUNTU 7.10 workink as a LTSP server.
[09:59] <captain_> i think u need timidity jami
[10:00] <captain_> and the java soundbank
[10:00] <Relentless> gotamatw dist-update is in order... and Why not just PnP
[10:00] <Naisel> Bram therefore you have the backup then install linux and passes all data to your linux.
[10:00] <Yossarian> ohoy
[10:01] <tapas> is there a way to intwerrupt fsck when using no splash screen?
[10:01] <Bram> Naisel, yes I know but the problem is when I boot from cd and then choose install ubuntu it doesn't do anything anymore and after a long time it does give an error.
[10:01] <Yossarian> i have a question regarding the preload daemon. if an application were to require more ram than is free, and the rest is occupied by preload, will unload itself for the other application?
[10:02] <Naisel> Bram do not worry about the application before using it on windows and linux is the best
[10:02] <Relentless> tapas Why would you want to do that?
[10:02] <gotamatw> I can't update the system, and I must install the scanner for tomorrow morning.
[10:02] <lorenzosu> All of a sudden I can't mount my Windows partition which worked perfectly till yesterday. I get a "You are not privileged to mount the volume" error. Any clue?
[10:02] <tapas> Relentless: because i'm in a hurry
[10:02] <tapas> Relentless: do yo9u have an answer or not?
[10:02] <Relentless> tapas You do know that linuc doesnt boot untill it has finished and has a clean bill of health
[10:02] <Bram> Naisel, I know linux is the best, that's why I install it
[10:03] <jami> captain_: after starting the timidity over init.d i get Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation [fail]. How did I get additional informations?
[10:03] <Relentless> Bram, Ubuntu is not linux, it is a fork of one.
[10:03] <Naisel> Bram let me see if I understand the problem you are trying to install linux
[10:03] <tapas> Relentless: you do know that you can press ESC to skip the fsck when splash screen is enabled?
[10:03] <tapas> Relentless: so i see you do not know how to do it.. please, why are you wasting my time?
[10:03] <Relentless> Well arent we a fesity one
[10:03] <gordonjcp> jami: did you install "freepats" when you installed timidity?
[10:04] <arvind_khadri> hi,cheese sees my cam, but kopete doesnt...what can i do???
[10:04] <Relentless> I hope your HDD fail on next boot
[10:04] <gordonjcp> Relentless: manners, please...
[10:04] <lorenzosu> All of a sudden I can't mount my Windows partition which worked perfectly till yesterday. I get a "You are not privileged to mount the volume" error. Any clue?
[10:04] <askar> help me please mount my Vista - it is not present at the Places.. =(
[10:04] <jami> gordonjcp: yes
[10:04] <darkweasel> Relentless, not true - ubuntu is a distribution, not a fork of linux
[10:05] <darkweasel> linux is just the kernel that ubuntu uses
[10:05] <Droopsta915> How can I find out the physical network interface of my system?
[10:05] <Relentless> darkweasel that was the wor dI was looking for
[10:05] <gordonjcp> jami: okay, still waiting for stuff to install ;-)
[10:05] <Relentless> *word
[10:05] <Yossarian> bump
[10:05] <Bram> Naisel, yes I try to install it, but when I say install ubuntu it doesn't do anything anymore and at the last it gives an error saying it can't read boot cd
[10:05] <Relentless> lorenzosu ntfs or fat32?
[10:06] <lorenzosu> Relentless: ntfs
[10:06] <gordonjcp> jami: hmm, and you're saying that timidity doesn't even start?
[10:06] <tmarty> how to install urdu fonts in firefox ubuntu 8.10? i am not able to view the urdu font in this website, thanks, www.bbcurdu.com
[10:06] <lorenzosu> Relentless: I use NTFS configuration tool to auto-mount it a t boot up
[10:06] <Relentless> lorenzosu try it as root?
[10:06] <Naisel> Bram Please read the message well and check if any line in said kernel panic
[10:06] <gordonjcp> jami: I'm not convinced that Ubuntu's tuxguitar package does have sound
[10:07] <gordonjcp> jami: it doesn't even resemble any of the documentation on the tuxguitar website
[10:07] <O__o> how to clean the mail?
[10:07] <dominic_bredoto> рь
[10:07] <tmarty> anyone?
[10:07] <Relentless> O__o mail -p
[10:07] <lorenzosu> Relentless: I could, but even if it work it would'nt solve the problem, as I want to be able to access it as notmal user
[10:07] <Naisel> Bram may be the livecd that has the problem
[10:07] <titon> hi. i have a problem with my ubuntu starting to give me problem with nvidia.
[10:07] <tmarty> how to install urdu fonts in firefox ubuntu 8.10? i am not able to view the urdu font in this website, thanks, www.bbcurdu.com
[10:08] <Relentless> lorenzosu afaik the mout tool ask for admin privs when it starts
[10:08] <titon> after shutdown and boot up i get lines going across the screen and the nvidia driver wont load
[10:08] <quibbler> !ru
[10:08] <O__o> mail -p just print on screen
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | tmarty
[10:08] <O__o> how to clean the mail?
[10:08] <titon> i even see lines in bios boot
[10:08] <Naisel> titon what is you error
[10:08] <O__o> do i rm /var/mail/user?
[10:08] <Relentless> O__o what do you mean by clean?
[10:08] <Naisel> with you video card
[10:08] <titon> i think something happends when i shutdown ubuntu
[10:08] <Naisel> your
[10:08] <O__o> clear the msg that is read
[10:09] <titon> dmesg right
[10:09] <jami> gordonjcp: hm it does have sound on hardy. I now get TiMidity++ to work but still no entries at amidi -l
[10:09] <titon> Naisel how do i find that error message?
[10:09] <gordonjcp> jami: yes, it doesn't look like it shows up in amidi
[10:09] <titon> now i botted in under nv
[10:09] <doctorow> Accented characters and other "oddball" characters (curly quotes, for example) show up as square blocks of garbage in Thunderbird -- any idea how to fix this?
[10:09] <titon> booted
[10:09] <c0p3rn1c> I would like to see a shortcut to the gnome-control-center in the system menu, to make ubuntu more userfriendly , it's really easy to implement, it would only take a minute to change, if you agree please vote for solution 4 here : http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/80/
[10:10] <lorenzosu> tmarty: I'm not sure, but shouldn't they already be installed?
[10:10] <gordonjcp> jami: interestingly enough it shows up in qjackctl
[10:10] <askar> The matter is - i have installed ubuntu on the same partition where vista was located. there was another partition, which did not have enough free space, so I didn't choose that at the time of installation. So now I can see that partition at Places, but not my Vista or C:// where ı have all my files and documents. what can I do to reach them
[10:10] <Naisel> Bram just insert the cd again and check what it says
[10:10] <jami> gordonjcp: jackd hm i can try it
[10:10] <Naisel> titom use dmesg
[10:11] <Bram> Naisel, it does exactly the same
[10:11] <chazco> Anyone know why Ubuntu often drops wifi connections to WPA-Ent, tkip, mschap v2, peap networks?
[10:13] <matt0> What the hell still no firefox update in the repos >:(
[10:13] <Naisel> Bram what is the error
[10:13] <tapas> Relentless: for your info: it seems to be an upstart bug that prevents signals and console commands to reach fsck
[10:13] <tapas> [which can be stopped with ctrl-c or esc on more sane distros ;)
[10:13] <lorenzosu> chazco: My wifi is fine, never drops and is WPA
[10:13] <lstarnes> matt0: which version of ubuntu do you have?
[10:13] <matt0> 8.10
[10:13] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, hi,cheese sees my cam, but kopete doesnt...what can i do???
[10:13] <tapas> Relentless: bugs.ubuntu.com tells you more..
[10:13] <Relentless> tapas You make me lol inside..
[10:14] <chazco> lorenzosu - Is it with the above settings? Connections to my own WPA2 network are fine, but Ubuntu since 8.10 (or maybe 8.04) wont join the above config reliably
[10:14] <tapas> Relentless: that's fine with me.. great to bring some happiness into the world..
[10:14] <titon> Naisel i dont know what to look for....nothin seems like an error
[10:14] <lstarnes> matt0: it may take up to a week or more for the package to be updated
[10:14] <Bram> Naisel, it says "couldn't read from boot cd"
[10:14] <tapas> Relentless: and it seems fsck can handle SIGINT just fine for quite a while now..
[10:15] <tapas> Relentless: [this is about the periodic checks not the fs check when the fs was unclean]
[10:15]  * matt0 Waltzes off like a annoying little girl
[10:15] <belesprit1> anyone know how to get adobe working on 64 bit?
[10:15] <Relentless> ok tapas one stop hilighting and flooding me. Two http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-bypassing-fsck/
[10:15] <Droopsta915> what is the path for my physical network interface?
[10:15] <Relentless> Read that
[10:15] <tapas> Relentless: but since you seem to have no desire to learn more i will stop now.. you can find out the rest yourself..
[10:15] <Naisel> Bram only that
[10:16] <Relentless> tapas: It is recommended that you run a fsck on reboot if required. Usually, system automatically determines if fsck required or not. Generally, fsck is run automatically at boot time when the system detects that a file system is in an inconsistent state, indicating a non-graceful shutdown, such as a crash or power loss.
[10:17] <Bram> Naisel yes, but it does take a long time before it does say that
[10:17] <belesprit1> adobe flash that is
[10:18] <tapas> Relentless: you make me smile inside
[10:18] <Relentless> lol
[10:18] <alpaka> after I installed the Tahoma font I couldn't see any web page with Tahoma font, now I have deleted tahoma and run "sudo fc-cache -f -v" but still the characters on Tahoma web pages don't show up, what do I do?
[10:18] <Relentless> tapas You are the best troll ever!
[10:18] <Relentless> :O
[10:18] <Relentless> Aperture_Science <3
[10:18] <titon> i find it odd that it effects the lines in bios also
[10:18] <Aperture_Science> You've got to be kidding me.
[10:18] <Relentless> nope :D
[10:18] <Aperture_Science> Hah.
[10:18] <jami> gordonjcp: qjackctl also find no connectable ports
[10:19] <tapas> Relentless: and you are very unimaginative and rather uninformed..
[10:19] <Relentless> Aperture_Science I can personally help you
 The matter is - i have installed ubuntu on the same partition where vista was located. there was another partition X, which did not have enough free space, so I didn't choose that at the time of installation. So now I can see that X partition at Places, but not my Vista i.e. C:// where ı have all my files and documents. what can I do to reach them?
[10:19] <titon> [   29.902012] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[10:20] <lstarnes> askar: that most likely resulted in vista getting overwritten with ubuntu
[10:20] <MeVsTheVoices> askar: If you installed ubuntu on your Vista PARtition, then Vista is gone
[10:20] <tapas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/211402
[10:20] <titon> [   31.058663] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
[10:20] <titon> [   31.058975] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK5] enabled at IRQ 11
[10:20] <titon> [   31.058981] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNK5] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[10:20] <titon> [   31.059360] NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  96.43.10  Sat Jan 24 19:49:38 PST 2009
[10:20] <FloodBot1> titon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <tapas> i'm off now.. since people here wihtout a clue rather flame than look stuff up
[10:20] <tapas> laters
[10:20] <askar> no I have right now both OS available
[10:21] <askar> Vista also works
[10:21] <kronix> Anybody else tried 9.04 Alpha 5 and had trouble installing it to disk? Trying to install it disk within the live session launches the console for about a second, then does nothing thereafter. Trying to install it from the CD menu launches the live session.
[10:21] <Droopsta915> what is the path for my NIC? Anyone help please
[10:21] <Aperture_Science> Relentless, are you pretty versed in Ubuntu?
[10:21] <kronix> I'm running it in a VM, and the disc check reports an error with one file - but I want to be sure before I download the image again.
[10:23] <matteo> hi all! I have just bought a new Media station(an HDD that can be connected to the tv) formatted in ntfs. I know that now linux can read ntfs, but when i plug in the HDD, i get 3 media ( a 534 MB, a 233 and the real HDD) if i try to open the HDD i get an error message that invites me to restar windows correctly (like i forced the shutdown) or to force the volume. I dunno what to do :S Any tips?
[10:23] <titon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115582/    anyone notice any nvidia error that could cause the lines across screen and not nvidia driver to load?
[10:23] <glubox> is it possible Xorg with two video adapters to be setup to output the signal from card1 to the screen attached to card0
[10:23] <JimDev> Can anyone recommend a decent Tracker(MOD,XM etc) for ubuntu intrepid?
[10:23] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: -o force, rewrites bootlog, be sure though
[10:25] <matteo> Mevs can you post me the sintax of the command i am noob.. XD Be sure of wot? :S
[10:25] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: mount -t ntfs -o force /dev/s* mountdirectory
[10:26] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: Ohh, depends actually, might be '-t ntfs-3g'
[10:27] <Watson2k9> hey guys
[10:28] <roastedpineapple> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <titon> anyone?
[10:30] <titon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115582/    anyone notice any nvidia error that could cause the lines across screen and not nvidia driver to load?
[10:30] <titon> they worked before...just out of the blue they started acting up
[10:31] <c0p3rn1c> would backing up ~/.xchat-gnome and restoring it on a reinstalled ubuntu system work?
[10:31] <matteo> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdb4/media/ScreenPlayPro_HD
[10:31] <matteo>   This was my syntax but i get the manual page just like i  misspelled it
[10:32] <Arminas> c0p3rn1c, yes
[10:32] <c0p3rn1c> nice :)
[10:32] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: man pages, `man mount`, and it should be `sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdc4 /media/ScreenPlayPro_HD`
[10:33] <Droopsta915> what command do i do to get my ethernet number? Example eth0
[10:33] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: You must differentiate the mount point and /dev spec
[10:33] <Accesshater> ifconfig Droopsta915 do you mean that?
[10:33] <ch0d3> gaaah, none of my terminal emu's (rxvt, eterm, xterm) can find my pcf fonts. they show up in other apps - anyone have pcf fonts working with terminals?
[10:33] <Droopsta915> Ill try, thanks
[10:34] <Accesshater> Hi there i have a question myself :). I was here yesterday and had a placed my question but it was to crowded.
[10:34] <Droopsta915> yes, thanks again
[10:34] <Accesshater> You can find my question here http://paste.ubuntu.com/115588/
[10:34] <Accesshater> np Droopsta915
[10:35] <MrHanh> asd
[10:40] <jascott> best html based front end for ubnutu? webmin?
[10:40] <matteo> mevs i don't understand :S
[10:41] <MeVsTheVoices> jascott: Best html front end? A browser?
[10:41] <lstarnes> jascott: I think it might be ebox
[10:41] <jascott> thanks
[10:41] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: Type `man mount` it'll explain syntax, learn it, very very useful
[10:41] <stefg> !webmin | jascott
[10:41] <arvind_khadri> hi,cheese sees my cam, but kopete doesnt...what can i do???
[10:41] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: To overcome a full bootlog you need to specify the force option `-o force`
[10:42] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: `-t ntfs-3g` specifies the filesystem
[10:42] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: `/dev/whatever` is what you want to mount
[10:43] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: `/media/ or /mount/ or /mnt/` where to mount it to, must already exist
[10:44] <Aperture_Science> Okay that was retarded of me.
[10:44] <MeVsTheVoices> It happens
[10:44] <matteo> Mevs, wot u mean with where to mount? I think i have not so clear the mount oeration :)
[10:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all. I've got a few NFS mounts in my fstab that mount on boot. Is there a way to write my fstab so they are an option, but do not mount until I click or tell it to?
[10:44] <jascott> stefg thanks
[10:45] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: When you mount something, your give it a directory, here you can traverse the filesystem
[10:45] <Aperture_Science> Re|ent|ess, PM plocks.
[10:45] <|HSO|SadiQ> how can I know wich files an application is using(opening)...say pidgin for example
[10:45] <Re|ent|ess> Aperture_Science k
[10:46] <stefg> jascott: make sure to use the ebox repos... the version in the ubuntu-repos is usually old, and since ebox is quite a new project there's always
[10:46] <stefg> packages with bugfixes available
[10:46] <jascott> ah i would have gone with the ubuntu repos for hope of compatibility..
[10:47] <lstarnes> |HSO|SadiQ: maybe lsof -p $(pidof pidgin)
[10:47] <jascott> thanks for the help
[10:47] <stefg> jascott: ymmv ...
[10:47] <matteo> ok mevs this is my input this time " sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdb4/media/ScreenPlayPro_HD /mount
[10:47] <matteo>  " and here is the output " ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sdb4/media/ScreenPlayPro_HD': Not a directory
[10:47] <matteo> " Strange, i took the path from the error message :S
[10:48] <stefg> jascott: ebox is developed on and for ubuntu, so compatibility shouldn't ba an issue
[10:48] <|HSO|SadiQ> lstarnes, it doesn't work
[10:48] <MeVsTheVoices> matteo: I already wrote the exact command, you need a space between /dev/whatever and /media/whatever, also, wherever you are mounting it to needs to exist `mkdir /media/ScreenPlayPro_HD`
[10:48] <jascott> ah sweet
[10:48] <lstarnes> |HSO|SadiQ: what error message do you get?
[10:49] <|HSO|SadiQ> lstarnes, sry...it works...I replaced (pidof pidgin) with the actiual pid...stupid me :P
[10:50] <lstarnes> |HSO|SadiQ: just use $(pidof pidgin).  Do not replace it with anything else.  That will automatically fill itself in with pidgin's PID
[10:51] <|HSO|SadiQ> lstarnes, thx...It work perfectlty with your command :)
[10:52] <Bram> I'm trying to install ubuntu over windows xp. I did put an cd in (cd with ubuntu) but how can I boot from it? windows is broken so it asks me if I want to use safe mode or normal startup etc.
[10:53] <olavimmanuel> Hello. I need dome help with lighttpd. I get this error http://pastebin.com/d7a10e099 htere is a symbolic link @ the first file. the two later config files are: http://pastebin.com/d70a3590 and http://pastebin.com/d16fa55ad
[10:53] <matteo> mevs, i put the space, i did a wrong paste here :) I also made a dir in /media called hd so i set as mount path "/media/hd" so now the command is  "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdb4/media/ScreenPlayPro_HD  /media/hd
[10:53] <matteo> "
[10:53] <hateball> Bram: thats down to your BIOS boot options
[10:53] <matteo> same error
[10:53] <matteo> :S
[10:53] <JC_Denton_> Unable to connext to xdmcp on another machine? What port does it run on by default? Does it use tcp connections?
[10:54] <JC_Denton_> using xnest :1 -query ip to attempt to connect to it
[10:54] <arvind_khadri> hi,cheese sees my cam, but kopete doesnt...what can i do???
[10:54] <lstarnes> JC_Denton_: It uses port 177 with tcp and possibly udp
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> hey guys, is it possible to move avant-windows-navigator to the right hand side of the screen??
[10:55] <JC_Denton_> lstarnes: thanks I can try telnetting then
[10:55] <Bram> hateball, how can I get in the BIOS?
[10:56] <hateball> Bram: It's usually <del>, <F2> or <F10>. But it's all down to your BIOS. You should see it when you boot
[10:56] <zool> !german
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> Bram: reboot and read the screen, you need to enter setup
[10:57] <Bram> hateball, ActionParsnip1: So I have to start the pc and then go to setup?
[10:58] <hateball> Bram: Usually there's also an option for choosing boot device without entering the BIOS setup
[10:58] <Accesshater> i have a problem. You can find my question here http://paste.ubuntu.com/115588/
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> Bram: yeah theres a key that will get you in, just read the screen carefully
[10:59] <matteo> mevs u here?
[10:59] <matteo> :)
[11:00] <guy654654> hello
[11:00] <guy654654> if you use the livecd un usb stick can it install programs in there?
[11:00] <lstarnes> matteo: he apparently left the channel
[11:00] <matteo> :S
[11:00] <masood> Accesshater: kill nautilus and run it agian
[11:01] <Accesshater> masood nautilus works... only the desktop is broken
[11:01] <Bram> hateball, ActionParsnip: I pressed f2 (it said press f2 to enter setup) but it asks me if I want to start windows normally or if I want safe mode
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: yeah you can do anything in livecd that you can do in an installed session
[11:01] <Accesshater> and everytime i restart i have no dekstop
[11:01] <masood> Accesshater: desktop icons r part of nautilus
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: your ram amount dictates how much you can have
[11:01] <Accesshater> ok will try it
[11:01] <guy654654> thats awesome but are they permanent?
[11:01] <arvind_khadri> hi,cheese sees my cam, but kopete doesnt...what can i do???
[11:02] <guy654654> do the installed programs go to usb? ActionParsnip1
[11:02] <lstarnes> matteo: have you tried the same command but with ntfs instead of ntfs-3g?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: no, they are only in ram so will be lost at reboot
[11:02] <guy654654> ActionParsnip1: ok thanks
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: you could mount a folder to a usb stick and they would be installed on there
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: you could also mount /home to usb and documents would be persistant, you'd have to remount each reboot
[11:03] <matteo> i try now one sec :) But the problems seems to be with /dev/sdb4 that is not a irectory... Is it normal?
[11:03] <lstarnes> matteo: it should not be a directory, it should be a device node
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: you could mount a few folders to usb so that a lot of the install is persistant
[11:03] <guy654654> ActionParsnip1: i thought the settings however would be stored?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: or just install TO the usb stick
[11:03] <guy654654> in usb..
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: mapping home to usb will store your settings
[11:04] <Accesshater> masood:  if i restart nautilus nothing happens, but i get this error in my terminal "Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[11:04] <Accesshater> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing."
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> guy654654: Linux is very flexible, have a play
[11:04] <matteo> this was my error report "  Failed to access volume '/dev/sdb4/media/ScreenPlayPro_HD': Not a directory
[11:04] <matteo> " After i entered the command...
[11:04] <guy654654> ActionParsnip1: ok thx
[11:05] <zear> hallo
[11:05] <SuperGuy_9000> Does Ubuntu have an equivalent to Windows's Task Manager?
[11:05] <dsdeiz> top?
[11:05] <lstarnes> matteo: which command are you using?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> SuperGuy_9000: kde has ksysguard
[11:06] <matteo> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdb4/media/ScreenPlayPro_HD  /media/ScreenPlayPro_HD
[11:06] <SuperGuy_9000> I'm using GNOME
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> matteo: yuo need a space between the sdb4 and /media
[11:06] <noogie> does tor us encryption, i think my cable internet traffic is being sniffed
[11:06] <lstarnes> matteo: try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdb4 /media/ScreenPlayPro_HD
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> matteo: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdb4  /media/ScreenPlayPro_HD
[11:07] <lstarnes> noogie: it does but it is extremely slow
[11:07] <noogie> it is slow
[11:07] <noogie> is there a fast service
[11:07] <masood> Accesshater: do you have yot samba share working?
[11:07] <noogie> i dont
[11:07] <lstarnes> noogie: do you have any proof that your traffic is being sniffed?
[11:07] <noogie> yes
[11:07] <ghostlines> hi all
[11:08] <Accesshater> i dont know masood, how can i check that (sorry)
[11:08] <noogie> more like people letting me know they are watching, but not proof
[11:08] <olavimmanuel> anyone? (ps. im on ubuntu 8.10)
[11:08] <matteo> OMG i am so noob ahhaha f*ked spaces :D
[11:08] <lstarnes> noogie: if you can, try using SSL on sites that offer it
[11:08] <matteo> Forced mount
[11:08] <matteo> :D
[11:08] <ghostlines> does anyone have a ps3 with ubuntu installed and can play their 1080p movies via vlc with no probs?
[11:08] <masood> Accesshater: From System->Administration->Services
[11:08] <lstarnes> noogie: tor exit nodes often sniff stuff
[11:09] <noogie> i will look into accesshater....tor sounds lame now
[11:09] <Freckle1> Why is my ubuntu having such a hard time downloading and installing nvidia drivers :-(
[11:09] <ghostlines> i was wondering if this was possible cuz linux can't fully access the graphics card as yet
[11:09] <Accesshater> masood i dont see a samba service, in my services list
[11:09] <ghostlines> Freckle1, use envy
[11:10] <hateball> ghostlines: I think you'll have a hard time with 1080p... 720p can work ok
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> Freckle1: what nvidia card?
[11:10] <reenignEesreveR> how can i start xserver with compiz disabled?
[11:10] <Freckle1> 8800GT
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> !envy | ghostlines
[11:10] <Freckle1> The window Hardware Drivers is now unresponsive oO
[11:10] <sean_1> h
[11:10] <matteo> now if i double click on hd it opens a window with the folder "System volume info"... Do you think this is the Hd? Is there a command to check the hd dimension? thx alot
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> Freckle1: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 nvidia-settings
[11:11] <Freckle1> ah thanks a lot mate!
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> Freckle1: its fully supported by that
[11:11] <Freckle1> ya I'm totally new to ubuntu
[11:11] <Freckle1> dual boot with vista 64 because I want to play high-end games as well
[11:12] <reenignEesreveR> im trying to install ubuntu 8.04 on my machine (dell optiplex sx270) but when X starts nothing apperas on my screen. I've gone to tty1 and stopped gdm. Now how can i start it again with compiz disabled?
[11:12] <Freckle1> brb, I have to restart
[11:12] <Bram> does anybody know if there is a windows command so I can boot from a cd? (I want to install ubuntu over broken windows xp)
[11:12] <masood> Accesshater: to install samba, just type 'sudo  aptitude install samba' in one terminal. if it didn't fix/wasn't needed you can remove it later
[11:13] <Accesshater> ok masood, but the strange thing is, i can connect with a windows share using samba...
[11:13] <gsp2009> Bram, did you get a good copy?
[11:13] <noogie> is there a way to detect snffing of my traffic
[11:13] <Accesshater> but will check if the package is still there
[11:13] <jelly12gen> noogie: whireshack
[11:13] <Bram> gsp2009: well I have two cds, and with one I can choose a language but when I say install it stops
[11:13] <noogie> shark?
[11:13] <stefg> Bram: so your box won't let you boot from CD ?
[11:14] <noogie> i think i have that installed
[11:14] <jelly12gen> noogie: yeah, and also try nessus
[11:14] <jelly12gen> just google it:)
[11:14] <noogie> k
[11:14] <Bram> stefg: no, I can start windows in safe mode and I need a command so I can boot from cd
[11:14] <jelly12gen> noogie: or search in synaptic for sniffing
[11:14] <Accesshater> restarting now :)
[11:14] <stefg> Bram: that has nothing to do with windows or ubuntu... that'S a bios thing
[11:15] <rubberducky> Hi
[11:15] <gsp2009> Bram, what do you mean? Your install starts, and then when you get to the point where it says choose language, what happens?
[11:15] <Bram> stefg: well my windows is totally broken (some virusses)
[11:15] <rubberducky> nautilus doesn't recognize mountable devices anymore
[11:15] <rubberducky> they're in /dev and i can mount them manually
[11:15] <Bram> gsp2009: I choose a language, then I say install and then it does nothing anymore
[11:15] <rubberducky> but they don't show up in nautilus
[11:15] <rubberducky> nor do network locations
[11:16] <Accesshater> masood still no luck :(
[11:16] <gsp2009> Bram, so you are able to boot successfully to the Ubuntu cd then?
[11:16] <Bram> gsp2009: well a bit only, but then later it says "error reading from boot cd"
[11:16] <Freckle1> hmm
[11:17] <stefg> !sbm | Bram
[11:17] <Freckle1> Why do I have to insert 'Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)'
[11:17] <stefg> !boot | Bram
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> Bram: did you md5 the downloaded iso file?
[11:17] <masood> Accesshater: you don't have the icons on the desktop even after a fresh login?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> Bram: and did you verify the burned cd once you booted to it?
[11:17] <rubberducky> check it for defects
[11:17] <Accesshater> masood:  i dit ctrl + alt+ backspace
[11:17] <gsp2009> Bram.. ok, boot to it and then choose "verify media". This will check to ensure that the cd is good
[11:17] <Accesshater> did*
[11:18] <Bram> gsp2009: when I say verify cd it also don't do anything, so I try another cd, but I need to boot that first
[11:18] <gsp2009> Bram, ok try.
[11:18] <Freckle1> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[11:18] <Freckle1>  'Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)'
[11:18] <Freckle1> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[11:18] <Freckle1> Can anyone explain me why and what I would have to insert. I just tried installing the nvidia graphics driver
[11:18] <masood> Accesshater: ok.. i have a look to see removing which config file from home directory can help
[11:18] <FloodBot1> Freckle1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:19] <Freckle1> oh sorry for the flood
[11:19] <Accesshater> ok tnx masood, in the meantime i will check google :p
[11:19] <stefg> Bram: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto have you done the burning right?
[11:19] <Bram> gsp2009: I did it many times already, but everytime it does the same
[11:19] <rubberducky> Nautilus doesn't show my mountable hard drivers, sd cards,...
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> Bram: did you md5 check the downloaded iso?
[11:19] <rubberducky> how do i fix this?
[11:19] <Bram> stefg: well one is done by myself and the other one by someone else.
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> Freckle1, you need to uncheck the cdrom from the software sources
[11:20] <Freckle1> alright
[11:20] <Bram> ActionParsnip1: sorry, I don't know what that is?
[11:20] <gsp2009> Bram. Ok. Did you try everything we spoke about earlier? (checksum, boot floopy, etc)
[11:20] <stefg> Bram: and you did not burn the *file* to CD, but made an image copy of the .iso, right?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> Bram: you NEED to check the image is ok otherwise you will most likely get issues
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | Bram
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> Freckle1: gksudo nvidia-settings
[11:21] <nmlinuz> hello. Is anyone using ubuntu with SSD disk?
[11:21] <reenignEesreveR> Ubuntu 8.04 Installer isn't showing any stuff on my screen once it loads up on my Dell Optiple SX270 ... what should i do?
[11:21] <stefg> reenignEesreveR: try safe graphics mode
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> reenignEesreveR: did you md5 check the iso as well as check the cd for defects once burned
[11:21] <Bram> stefg: yes I did "burn cd as image"
[11:21] <Freckle1> ActionParsnip1: one second, I'm installing it now. but I need to kill a proccess that's locking it
[11:21] <rubberducky> Nautilus doesn't show my mountable hard drivers, sd cards, nor any network places... any help?
[11:22] <Bram> ActionParsnip1: do I have to put that command in terminal while I have the cd in?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> Bram: you need to check the iso you used to burn the cd with
[11:22] <stefg> Bram: so you have to tell your BIOS to boot from CD... if it's too old try the smart boot manager or a boot floppy
[11:22] <reenignEesreveR> ActionParsnip1: Yes. Its a bootable USB and the very  same USB works well on my other desktop. Problem seems with Intel86865 graphics drivers.
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> reenignEesreveR: then try some boot options
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | reenignEesreveR
[11:23] <Freckle1> What process do I need to kill that could possibly lock the administration directory?
[11:23] <rubberducky> Nautilus doesn't show my mountable hard drives, sd cards, nor any network places... any help?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> !fixapt | Freckle1
[11:23] <Freckle1> ty
[11:24] <reenignEesreveR> ActionParsnip1: could you tell me some startx options I could play around with. I've got tty1 and I can try starting gsm from there
[11:24] <pluma> How do I get Ubuntu to recognise and use my notebook's DVB-T capabilities?
[11:24] <Bram> stefg: well I actually can't do much since the computer I want to install it on is full of the worst virusses, so I just want to get in the cd
[11:24] <stefg> rubberducky: try 'sudo invoke-rc.d hal restart'
[11:24] <Bram> ActionParsnip1: can I check the iso in my ubuntu which I'm using now?
[11:24] <stefg> Bram: that's totally irrelevant
[11:25] <stefg> Bram: you know how to get the BIOS when you start the computer, don't you?
[11:26] <Bram> stefg: when I enter setup (with F2) it asks me if I want to use safe mode or start windows the normal way, but I don't know another way to get in the BIOS
[11:26] <Ghotler> good day
[11:27] <reenignEesreveR> could someone tell me what is casper?
[11:27] <Accesshater> masood i think its something like this, but it does not happen randomly on my laptop.... there are never desktop icons... it started this week though
[11:27] <Accesshater> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/303023
[11:27] <stefg> Bram: that's not the BIOS, that's already the windows bootloader... prolly you have to press 'del' or 'esc'
[11:28] <Bram> stefg: thank you, I'll try those I'll tell if it worked
[11:29] <TADS> hi all im on ubuntu 8.10 desktop on my dedicated server i have installed filezilla client to connect to my web server but when sending a file it resets file transfer and starts again... what could i do
[11:29] <gsp2009> reenignEesreveR, "A software package that allows initramfs-based Linux systems to boot from read-only media"
[11:29] <TADS> it only uploads 14%
[11:30] <bardyr> gsp2009, just add a read only flag to the kernel parameters
[11:30] <Ghotler> has someone any knowledge about IR remotes? i have a PCI Serial port Card with chipset netmos 9835, my comp is seeing the card but when i sending a signal with my tv-remote to the reciver , in xmode2 or mode2 i cannot seeing anything, my ir reciver device is working fine under windows, but i need it in linux to use, pls help me
[11:30] <gsp2009> bardyr, sorry?
[11:30] <traubisoda> hi
[11:30] <gsp2009> bardyr, I think that was meant for someone else...
[11:31] <traubisoda> can you help me to change the default session from gdm to text based?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> Bram: as long as you can run an md5 command against the iso, yes you can
[11:32] <stefg> Ghotler: you need the 'lirc' package ... install with synaptic or 'sudo apt-get install lirc'
[11:32] <traubisoda> anyone?
[11:32] <Ghotler> stefg, i was installed
[11:32] <SliM1> hello
[11:32] <stefg> Ghotler: then you need to configurer it right
[11:33] <stefg> Ghotler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LircHowto
[11:33] <therootest> hello. i would like to make a VERY SIMPLE offline browser in java. I have ubuntu 8.10, what package do i need to programm in java and what documentation i need to read in order to do that?
[11:33] <Ghotler> stefg, i know , i try any opinion of config but it didnt work
[11:34] <Accesshater> masood i solved it
[11:34] <SliM1> i have installed the cli version of ubuntu and i want to go on with installing a desktop (gnome), but without all the extra applications
[11:34] <stefg> Ghotler: Do you get characters written if yoou open a terminal and press some buttons on the remote?
[11:34] <SliM1> is there a wiki/fosum page somewhwre?
[11:34] <Bram> stefg: I can't seem to get in the BIOS it will always go to the screen I told
[11:34] <Accesshater> masood: i started gconf-editor and went to apps->nautilus-> preferences and set show_desktop on 1
[11:34] <Accesshater> =D
[11:35] <Accesshater> tnx for your time masood =D
[11:35] <stefg> Bram: what make and model is that computer?
[11:35] <Ghotler> stefg, i configurated the lirc, then i use this command sudo xmode2 -d /dev/lirc0
[11:35] <Ghotler> but i cannot seeing anything
[11:35] <Ghotler> pressing buttons
[11:35] <Ghotler> but nothing
[11:36] <Bram> stefg: it's an old dell on the side it says inspiron 7500
[11:36] <Balgan> SliM1 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186298
[11:36] <SliM1> Balgan: thanks
[11:36] <masood> Accesshater: thanks for sharing the solution
[11:36] <Accesshater> thats the least i can do :p
[11:36] <Accesshater> your welcome
[11:37] <TADS> hi all im on ubuntu 8.10 desktop on my dedicated server i have installed filezilla client to connect to my web server but when sending a file it resets file transfer and starts again... what could i do
[11:37] <TADS> it only uploads 14%
[11:37] <stefg> Bram: try 'F8' for Dell
[11:37] <adante> hi guys when i ssh into my box using putty, there is a ~5 second pause after entering the USERNAME - any idea what could cause this? it's not dns lookup as it occurs after the login prompt and i've got UseDNS no in my sshd_cnofig
[11:38] <stefg> Bram: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/psyd/setup.htm
[11:38] <prometheus77> hi, i have intrepid and recently i switched from 32bit to 64bit, and now there is some missing locale translations. I checked locale by typing 'locale' in terminal window and everything is set right except LC_ALL which is empty. On intrepid 32bit everything was ok. Anyone knows how to fix this issue?
[11:40] <prometheus77> this LC_ALL setting should be empty or should match my locale setting?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> TADS: check the ftp logs on the server, see whats going on
[11:42] <Bram> stefg: F8 does the same
[11:42] <matteo> hi all, anyone knows how to unmount an HD mounted from command line? :D tx
[11:43] <stefg> BRAM, i gave you a link on your systems docu...READ IT!  it says F2...
[11:43] <Bram> stefg: well I have to go now, I'll fix it later   bye
[11:43] <Bram> stefg: F2 does the same
[11:45] <olavimmanuel> Hello. I could use some help with lighttpd. I get this error http://pastebin.com/d7a10e099 there is a symbolic link @ the first file. the two later config files are: http://pastebin.com/d70a3590 and http://pastebin.com/d16fa55ad this is what ive done: http://pastebin.com/d5aecff3d
[11:45] <Safe> What happened to ubuntu? It can't even save my IP when I insert it.
[11:45] <matteo> hi all, anyone knows how to unmount an HD mounted from command line? :D tx
[11:45] <Safe> And now, after I've restarted, I can't insert my netmask, it just resets to 25 no matter what.
[11:45] <lstarnes> matteo: sudo umount /path/to/mount/point
[11:46] <stefg> Safe: it seems you're a victim of network-manager
[11:46] <Safe> Oh. I have to configure it manually then I guess?
[11:46] <stefg> Safe: does that box have wireless ?
[11:47] <Safe> No, just a regular wired connection.
[11:47] <Safe> Not DHCP though.
[11:47] <matteo> thanks a lot lstarnes for all the usefull tips :D
[11:47] <stefg> Safe: so i'd just sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager
[11:47] <linny1> i have a logitech cordless desktop its the only usb device plugged in and on boot i get a hang and a verbose boot complaining cannot enumarate usb device on port 1 any ideas how to fix this ?
[11:47] <PePs1Man> Hi everyone, I just joined the linux world 4 days ago :P
[11:47] <foges> hey guys, im trying to install libpcap, but first i needed to install flex (fast lexical analyzer). i downloaded flex did ./configure make make install but when running the libpcap ./configure script im still getting the error that i need to install flex, what am i doing wrong?
[11:48] <linny1> PePs1Man: welcome
[11:48] <stefg> Safe: and tehn sudo apt-get install gnome-network-admin (on ubuntu/xubuntu, not kubuntu)
[11:48] <foges> PePs1Man: welcome to it
[11:48] <lstarnes> foges: did you install flex using sudo apt-get install flex?
[11:48] <Safe> stefg, ah, will try to see if that fixes the problem.
[11:48] <foges> nope, downloaded it and did the same configure, make, makinstall, ill try with apt get
[11:49] <PePs1Man> I completly wiped my old OS, I am a little worried. Will Linux be able to run almost anything that I ran before with "wine" ?
[11:49] <stefg> Safe: network-manager is simply a major PITA, only halfway good when you have changing wireless access points
[11:50] <hateball> PePs1Man: usually there's a native alternative to just about everything apart from games
[11:50] <linny1> PePs1Man: it runs alot of stuff but there will be foss alternatives to nearly all softwares you ran in windows
[11:50] <Pirate_Hunter> where does sftp folders get mounted at?
[11:50] <foges> lsarnes: thanks for the help, now i didnt get that error, however when running make (for libpcap) i get: make: yacc:
[11:50] <foges> Command not found
[11:50] <foges> make: *** [grammar.c] Error 127
[11:50] <foges> any idea?
[11:50] <FloodBot1> foges: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <stefg> Pirate_Hunter: ~/.gvfs if you used the gnome gui
[11:51] <lstarnes> foges: did you install yacc using sudo apt-get install yacc?
[11:51] <Pirate_Hunter> stefg: ok thx will check
[11:51] <olavimmanuel> Safe: Workaround: check the "system settings" checkbox, THEN uncheck the "connect automatically" checkbox, check "connect automatically" again... wait for sometime and then click on "Authenticate": n-m should trigger the sudo authentication dialog box and let you save the settings.
[11:51] <stefg> .... sick ...
[11:52] <Pirate_Hunter> stefg: if i bookmark the sftp folder there would i be able to access it anytime?
[11:52] <PePs1Man> Thanks for your answers Hateball and linny1. I am on my fourth day of linux and i'm still trying to get a higher resolution than 800x600. But I just discovered something on the wiki. (That I saw here on the chat) It seems this was good for me to come here :P
[11:52] <stefg> Pirate_Hunter: yup.. that's the whole point
[11:52] <jimax> Hi, i am a newbe onUbuntu since yesterday
[11:52] <foges> lstarnes: when i try that it says: E: Couldn't find package yacc ...
[11:52] <arvind_khadri> i want my card to use alsa...its using pulse
[11:52] <peleg> Whenever I try to unmount any usb device, I get "cannot unmount", and it also says that it "cannot remove folder".
[11:52] <jimax> and I got a problem with the drivers of my IRDA adaptater
[11:53] <jimax> the drivers is Moschip MCS7780
[11:53] <linny1>  PePs1Man: what graphics card do you have
[11:53] <lstarnes> foges: try byacc instead of yacc
[11:53] <jimax> but it was tested under Fedora, and I am with Ubuntu Hardy Heron
[11:53] <PePs1Man> Mind if we go in private, linny1?
[11:53] <linny1> np
[11:54] <jimax> when I launch the manual instllation with command 'make' it's put me a Error message
[11:54] <jimax> it 's seem to be an issue with the compilation
[11:54] <alaz> peleg, tail -f /var/log/messages when you try to unmount it and look what it says
[11:54] <jimax> but I totaly new with Linux system and I need some help ?
[11:54] <jimax> thanks
[11:54] <lstarnes> jimax: what was the error message?
[11:55] <dixon208> how do i find out if my graphics card is working on ubuntu 8.10?
[11:55] <jimax> Hold on I copy the message
[11:55] <jimax> jm@jm-desktop:~/Bureau/Linux_7780$ make make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780 modules; make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-23-generic »   CC [M]  /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.o /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.c:81: erreur: expected «)» before string constant /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.c:145: erreur: unknown field «owner» specified in init
[11:55] <lstarnes> jimax: use a pastebin instead of pasting in the channel
[11:56] <peleg> alaz, thanks. Nothing (The last messages are from 2 hours ago
[11:56] <jimax> Erreur 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780] Erreur 2 make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-23-generic » make: *** [default] Erreur 2 jm@jm-desktop:~/Bureau/Linux_7780$
[11:56] <lstarnes> jimax: and it looks like the source code might be written wrong
[11:56] <foges> lstarnes: thanks so much, works now :) really thankful for the help. have a wonderful sunday
[11:56] <jimax> I can't copy it in totality
[11:56] <jimax> sorry
[11:56] <jimax> I try again
[11:56] <jimax> jm@jm-desktop:~/Bureau/Linux_7780$ make make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780 modules; make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-23-generic »   CC [M]  /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.o /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.c:81: erreur: expected «)» before string constant /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.c:145: erreur: unknown field «owner» specified in init
[11:56] <dixon208> jmax try going to www.pastebin.com and post it there
[11:57] <jimax> jm@jm-desktop:~/Bureau/Linux_7780$ make make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780 modules; make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-23-generic »   CC [M]  /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.o /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.c:81: erreur: expected «)» before string constant /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.c:145: erreur: unknown field «owner» specified in init
[11:57] <jimax>  /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.c:145: attention : initialization from incompatible pointer type /home/jm/Bureau/Linux_7780/mcs7780.c: Dans la fonction «mcs7780_probe» :
[11:57] <lstarnes> jimax: use http://paste.ubuntu.com. Do not paste large amounts of text into the channel
[11:57] <alaz> peleg, hmm very strange :/
[11:57] <jascott> ebox needs MUCH more detailed install info..
[11:58] <noogie> how does nessus help me detect people sniffing my traffic
[11:58] <peleg> alaz, well, it seems that the logs are using GMT instead of my local time. Anyway, tried again, and mounting put 3 new lines in messages, but unmounting does not.
[11:58] <jimax> f... Do you knwo how I can copy all the message here ?
[11:58] <dixon208> how do i find out if my graphics card is working or not? do i use the terminal?
[11:58] <jimax> sorry
[11:59] <SlimeyPete> noogie: as far as I know, it doesn't. It's a security scanner which looks for exploits in your network and reports back to you.
[11:59] <dixon208> jimax go to pastebin.com and post all of the message there
[11:59] <lstarnes> jimax: do not copy it here.  paste it to the website I showed you then give us the link to it once you submit it
[11:59] <SlimeyPete> though I guess it might have an IDS in it somewhere
[11:59] <dixon208> then paste the link location in the chat here
[11:59] <olavimmanuel> Hello. I could use some help with lighttpd. I get this error http://pastebin.com/d7a10e099 there is a symbolic link @ the first file. the two later config files are: http://pastebin.com/d70a3590 and http://pastebin.com/d16fa55ad this is what ive done: http://pastebin.com/d5aecff3d
[12:00] <noogie> hmm,, guess i got some bad advice
[12:00] <noogie> i was looking to detect traffic sniffing of my internet traffic
[12:00] <jimax> lstarnes> Do you can see something in this message ?
[12:00] <slaxaxe> hi room... can anyone help me here with mirror.list & sources.list errors ?
[12:00] <lstarnes> jimax: what message?
[12:01] <alaz> peleg, try to use umount from bash. umount /media/somepath
[12:02] <peleg> alaz, I am following this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/95368
[12:03] <peleg> alaz, that worked.
[12:04] <alaz> peleg, must be a gnome or kde bug then...
[12:04] <slaxaxe> hi room... can anyone help me here with mirror.list & sources.list errors ?
[12:04] <lstarnes> slaxaxe: what errors?
[12:04] <peleg> alaz, thanks :)
[12:05] <Safe> Well that was stupid of me, tried to apt-get install gnome-network-admin when I don't have a connection. :D
[12:06] <etk> b.net
[12:06] <alaz> peleg, might be a problem with the groups your user is in. not 100% sure
[12:06] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: I have downloaded the repository on my HDD which I always do.... and configured accordingly... but somehow it doesn't work .... I mean updating the repo...
[12:06] <tk3> hi all - running 8.04 on a SFF Compaq desktop - all sound is coming from the internal speaker - plugging anything into the external 3.5mm ports doesn't change this - any software related things I might try? I've looked in the bios for anything spooky...
[12:06] <slaxaxe> somewhere im going wrong.... don't know where....
[12:06] <lstarnes> slaxaxe: what errors do you get?
[12:06] <s0u][ight> !nvidia
[12:07] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: it says... no new updates.... and its been few months I have installed intrepid ...
[12:08] <lstarnes> slaxaxe: what happens when you do sudo apt-get update?
[12:09] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: reading package lists... done
[12:09] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: it is picking up from the local repository
[12:09] <s0u][ight> hello how can i install the nvidia driver though the command line interface?
[12:10] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: I need to update the local repository .... using apt-mirror... even then it says no new updates.....
[12:10] <lstarnes> slaxaxe: change the servers in /etc/apt/sources.list manually or try changing them automatically with system > administration > software sources
[12:10] <lyy> hi
[12:10] <lstarnes> slaxaxe: or try changing the mirrors used by apt-mirror
[12:10] <lyy> what's a good tool to view jpgs/bmps/pngs ?
[12:11] <lumis> lyy: feh
[12:11] <peleg> I have done sudo e2label /dev/sdb1 Label but in nautilus the name of my usb hard-drive is still "disk" and not "Label". What am I doing wrong? I do have "/dev/sdb1" mounted on /media/disk
[12:11] <lyy> say, I want to view all pics in a folder
[12:11] <s0u][ight> lyy, eog
[12:11] <lyy> can I do eog <dir> and see all pics in that dir?
[12:12] <lyy> installing feh now
[12:12] <s0u][ight> lyy, you can do nautilus <dir> and see all pictures or eog <picture> then change in between them
[12:12] <tavi> ubuntu has a program that search errors made by users ?
[12:13] <ZmAY> how can i change ssh output, i want to run for example firefox and to be opened on a base machine not on mine, is it possible?
[12:13] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: this is what I have on my sources.list .... http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m629749a3
[12:14] <lyy> lumis: feh is nice :D
[12:15] <Safe> Is network or broadcast the DNS when editing /etc/network/interfaces
[12:15] <tavi> ubuntu has a program that search errors made by users ?
[12:15] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: this is my mirror.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/115607/plain/
[12:15] <lstarnes> tavi: like what kind of errors?
[12:15] <alaz> ZmAY, remotely open firefox? is that what you want
[12:15] <tavi> like i don't know .....install twice a program, install stupid things.... make changes that disable sound.....
[12:16] <lstarnes> slaxaxe: I'm not sure, but to me it looks like it's set to mirror itself
[12:16] <ZmAY> alaz: yes
[12:16] <lyy> looks like feh does the job
[12:17] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: this is what I did to redirect to my local repo .... sudo ln -sf /media/H-Drive-SATA116/Repository-intrepid/mirror/hyhhlnx0/ubuntu repo
[12:17] <lstarnes> tavi: there might be some things in /var/log
[12:17] <tavi> ?
[12:17] <lstarnes> tavi: most log files are kept in /var/log
[12:18] <tavi> from there where to go?
[12:18] <ZmAY> alaz: export DISPLAY= ... ?
[12:18] <lstarnes> tavi: each of the files there contains logs
[12:19] <tavi> gdm....app.....
[12:19] <lstarnes> tavi: it depends on which errors you want to look for
[12:19] <tavi> all kind
[12:19] <lstarnes> tavi: then look in every file
[12:19] <tavi> like sound not working on radio ......and others
[12:20] <zool> !german
[12:20] <lstarnes> tavi: dpkg.log and the other files named like it contain the logs of installed/removed packages
[12:20] <tavi> now
[12:21] <tavi> i must paste them
[12:21] <tavi> where i paste?
[12:21] <lstarnes> tavi: if you're going to show them to someone, try http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:21] <tavi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115608/
[12:22] <tavi> there are a lot of programs
[12:24] <lstarnes> tavi: you may also want to check auth.log
[12:24] <tavi> why
[12:24] <tavi> ?
[12:24] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: hi ... can you suggest me a solution ???
[12:24] <Safe> I'll ask again, is network or broadcast the DNS when editing /etc/network/interfaces
[12:25] <lstarnes> tavi: that contains commands run with sudo
[12:25] <tavi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115609/
[12:25] <tavi> this too
[12:25] <lstarnes> slaxaxe: reconfigure apt-mirror to mirror a different repository, or use apt with a remote repository instead of a local copy
[12:27] <Safe> Noone knows? :)
[12:27] <slaxaxe> lstarnes: well I guess I have to do that... till I figure out the issue with this.... anyway thanks for your help.... btw do you know about keryx  [ http://keryx.betaserver.org/ ] ???
[12:27] <lstarnes> slaxaxe: I don't
[12:31] <lebowski> uhhhh
[12:32] <dare> how to install .deb file even if dependency not satisfied?
[12:32] <s0u][ight> --force-dependencies
[12:33] <dare> s0u][ight, thanx im going to try
[12:33] <s0u][ight> np
[12:33] <s0u][ight> dare, be aware that could be messy
[12:33] <lstarnes> dare: it's often unsafe to ignore dependencies
[12:33] <dare> s0u][ight, no im know what Im doing :) I have 2 .deb file which depend on each other :)
[12:34] <s0u][ight> dare, then install them in 1 command
[12:34] <s0u][ight> dpkg -i <deb1> <deb2>
[12:35] <ZmAY> how to remotely open application using ssh?
[12:35] <s0u][ight> ZmAY, application&
[12:36] <eoke> It's mighty quiet in here today.
[12:36] <ZmAY> s0u][ight: Error: no display specified
[12:36] <lstarnes> ZmAY: did you connect using ssh -XY?
[12:36] <dixon208> how would i get a logitech quickcam messenger working with skype?
[12:36] <s0u][ight> ZmAY, add :1 or something depending on which screen to use
[12:37] <energY> Hello
[12:37] <s0u][ight> how can i exit from vim?
[12:37] <lstarnes> s0u][ight: :q
[12:37] <energY> Rythmbox seams to delete my musics meta tags.
[12:37] <energY> WhY?
[12:37] <ZmAY> lstarnes: what should i put istead of Xy
[12:37] <eoke> s0u][ight: :q to exit or :wq to save and exit
[12:37] <theunixgeek> Can anyone recommend a good scanning program besides Xsane?
[12:37] <lstarnes> ZmAY: you should use -XY (not -Xy)
[12:37] <dixon208> how would i get a logitech quickcam messenger working with skype?
[12:38] <noogie> dip it in a tube of water
[12:38] <dixon208> O_O
[12:38] <noogie> its a hack
[12:38] <s0u][ight> no write since last change
[12:38] <eoke> s0u][ight: If you want to save your changes and exit use :wq
[12:39] <s0u][ight> eoke, found it anyway thanks
[12:39] <eoke> s0u][ight: If you want to exit with out saving your changes :q!
[12:39] <s0u][ight> i prefer nano :-)
[12:39] <foges> I can no longer switch workspaces, any idea whats wrong? if i click on the workspace down in the bottom right hand conrner nothing happens, also nothing when i use the keyboard shortcuts, it used to work
[12:39] <sm0by> ¬¬
[12:39] <eoke> s0u][ight: It is easier ;)
[12:39] <sm0by> ahora a buscar en google
[12:40] <quibbler> !es
[12:41] <foges> no one else having problems that they cant switch workspaces?
[12:41] <theunixgeek> foges: how'd it start?
[12:42] <ganesh> from which repository can i download  liblame0   ?
[12:44] <lstarnes> ganesh: multiverse
[12:44] <RAMDAC> Hello is there a game similar to silkroad online but on Linux Platform?
[12:44] <Stroganoff> ganesh: you are looking for libmp3lame
[12:45] <Stroganoff> ganesh: sudo apt-get install libmp3lame0
[12:45] <foges> theunixgeek: not quite sure actually, ive been away on holiday for the last month or so and it used to work before that, when i came back from holidays it stoped. i remeber i was messing around with trying to make my workspaces switch around on the cube before i left for holiday (it ended up never working, could it have something to do with that?)
[12:45] <shp> RAMDAC: sure wine silkroad.exe
[12:45] <theunixgeek> foges: try disabling special effects and try it again
[12:45] <theunixgeek> gotta go
[12:45] <RAMDAC> shp:Nah i need another game cuz i dont like using wine
[12:46] <ganesh> Stroganoff: it was already installed
[12:46] <s0u][ight> just finished my first custom iso :D
[12:46] <jfcgauss_> i inserted a scratched cd into my cd/dvd drive, and im unable to eject the cd. eject button of the drive doesnt work, nor does the 'eject volume' from the icon on my desktop. i also cannot kill the file browser instance that popped up when i inserted the cd. the only way is to restart the computer. is there a better way to get the cd out and kill the file browser instance without restarting? thx...
[12:46] <foges> wonderful, i went to appearance->visual effects->normal and it started working again
[12:46] <foges> thanks :D
[12:46] <SonicBoom> helo guys..did anyone tested cloud computing?
[12:47] <Stroganoff> that's alright then, i guess, ganesh
[12:47] <eoke> jfcgauss_: Most drives have a small hole near the cd try to manually eject (do it with the machine off).
[12:47] <Revage> Someone got a hint on why ubuntu isn't powering off after hibernating? it saves the resume image, turns of the monitor, but the pc itself stays powered on. i'd have to manually power it off afterwards :/
[12:47] <ganesh> ganesh:i tried to install libavcodec1b but it said it requires liblame0
[12:47] <ganesh>  Stroganoff:i tried to install libavcodec1b but it said it requires liblame0
[12:48] <Stroganoff> ganesh, how about installing "libavcodec51"?
[12:49] <ganesh> Stroganoff: it already installed
[12:49] <Stroganoff> ganesh: i can't find anything about "libavcodec1b" on google? where do you got it from? why do you need it?
[12:50] <ronny> ho
[12:50] <rakudave> jfcgauss_: have you tried to unmount it in a terminal? "sudo umount /media/cdrom"
[12:50] <ronny> fresh installed ubuntu, sound broken, any hints where to start?
[12:50] <diana> daisy
[12:50] <rakudave> !sound | ronny
[12:51] <ganesh>  Stroganoff: i want to insatll veejay its in http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=47564&package_id=298709
[12:51] <robf> I'm using rtorrent and saving torrents to an ntfs-3g partition.   Before my renstall this worked fine.   (I tried an upgrade that broke my system...=\)  now I get a problem from rtorrent when trying to write the chunks to ntfs-3g partition Storage error: [File chunk write error: No such device.]
[12:51] <robf> I never had this issue before,  not sure what differs now and why its rearing its head...  anyone know?
[12:51] <robf> s/saving/writing/
[12:51] <amro> hi, is there a way to force apt to fetch a package and all dependencies even if they are installed?
[12:52] <ganesh> Stroganoff:in synaptic libavcodec1b is there...
[12:52] <jrib> amro: define "fetch"
[12:52] <amro> jrib: download the .debs and save them in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:52] <jfcgauss_> rakudave: tried sudo umount but it said /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:52] <Stroganoff> ganesh are you on intrepid (ubuntu 8.10)?
[12:53] <robf> are they ever going to fix the upgrade from 8.04->8.10 =\  it breaks when I try to do it
[12:53] <ganesh> Stroganoff: yes
[12:53] <ronny> hmm
[12:53] <rakudave> jfcgauss_: here is a tutorial on how to unmount busy drives: http://ocaoimh.ie/2008/02/13/how-to-umount-when-the-device-is-busy/
[12:54] <ronny> rakudave: sound modules are loaded, aplay wont find devices
[12:54] <jrib> amro: well --download-only together with --reinstall should make them download.  You may have to script the fetching of dependencies.  There may be an easier way, but I don't know it
[12:54] <oma-opa> hi Im running hardy heron 32bit and id like to watch some movies on dvd. when I use totem it says it doesnt have the appropriate rights to open the dvd when i do sudo totem, I can access it, what can I do?
[12:54] <jfcgauss_> rakudave: im not sure i need to umount the cdrom, but instead kill the daemon that makes it busy, is it not?
[12:54] <Stroganoff> ganesh i'm looking at the veejay package and it says it depends on "libavcodec1d" (note the D instead of B)
[12:54] <jrib> oma-opa: paste the output of « groups »
[12:55] <ganesh>  Stroganoff:libavcodec1d need libavutil1d inturn it needs  liblame0  and libx264-54
[12:55] <rakudave> jfcgauss_: yes, something is blocking the unmount, so kill it
[12:55] <dixon208> this is probably the wrong channel to ask this, but is there a mechquest irc chatroom? i know that this is an ubuntu support IRC room.... just had to ask this
[12:55] <oma-opa> jrib http://pastebin.com/m546dd9a6
[12:55] <amro> jrib: thanks. I'm trying to mirror this install on an offline computer- is there a better way to do it?
[12:56] <Stroganoff> ganesh: i think you should contact veejay and tell them about these dependency problems: http://www.veejayhq.net/contact/
[12:57] <jrib> !clone | amro
[12:57] <ganesh> Stroganoff: ya i ll do dat
[12:57] <Stroganoff> ganesh: have you tried adding the veejay repositories? http://ppa.launchpad.net/veejay/ubuntu/
[12:58] <oma-opa> jrib any ideas?
[12:59] <jrib> amro: now once you get that list on the offline computer, there are tools like apt-zip (or synaptic will generate script) which I believe you can then just transfer back to the online computer and grab the debs that way.  I've never done this though
[12:59] <Stroganoff> ganesh: go to the third party repo screen in synaptic and add those lines two lines, replacing hardy with intrepid: http://www.veejayhq.net/download-2/
[12:59] <rakudave> ronny: is this restricted to aplay or do the system-sounds work? (login-sound etc...)
[12:59] <jrib> oma-opa: hold on
[12:59] <oma-opa> kk
[13:00] <fergal32> hi
[13:00] <ronny> rakudave: no sounds work
[13:00] <ronny> this is probably something fucked up in my user settings
[13:01]  * ronny used rsync for backing up his home
[13:01] <rakudave> ronny: an does your soundcard show up in "system--settings--sound"?
[13:01] <kenda> Всем привет
[13:01] <radioman{LT}> zdarow
[13:02] <jrib> amro: if it gets too complicated, then the kludgy solution would be to just install a fresh ubuntu in vbox on the online computer and use that to download the debs
[13:02] <ronny> rakudave: yes, but doesnt work
[13:02] <kenda> нужна помощь у меня нотик асус с плазмой 15,4 1280х800 и убунта 8.04 но там розширение 1027х768 что мне делать???
[13:02] <quibbler> !ru
[13:02] <kenda> !ru
[13:02] <ronny> rakudave: i suspect pulse is fucked up, is there a way ti get rid of it?
[13:02] <radioman{LT}> kenda, manual config
[13:02] <quibbler> kenda: /join #ubuntu-ru
[13:03] <rakudave> ronny: yes, you can safely "sudo apt-get remove pulse" (I had to get rid of pulse before my usb-speakers would work)
[13:03] <kenda> rfhjxt gfcs,f
[13:03] <kenda> пасиба
[13:03] <jrib> oma-opa: I don't see any group missing.  If you go to system -> administration -> users and groups, click on your user, then "properties", then go to the "user privileges" tab, what is unchecked?
[13:04] <talto1> hello all! any idea how to set this line to show the order DESC ? now its ASC.. find -type d
[13:04] <jrib> talto1: pipe to « tac »?
[13:05] <ronny> rakudave: is there any reason why ubuntu-desktop also gets deinstalled by that?
[13:05] <oma-opa> jrib its all in german and  hard to translate i checked them all for testing but still I cant access it
[13:05] <jrib> oma-opa: say it in german, I'll guess with the help of google
[13:06] <jrib> (or your help)
[13:06] <king> !usbaudio
[13:06] <king> !audio
[13:06] <talto1> --> [jrib]: tac ?..
[13:06] <diamonds> hey guys, could anyone help me? im trying to install a package called libhpi but its not listed, can anyone help??
[13:06] <rakudave> ronny: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, containing all programms included in ubuntu, but you can remove it, as the other programs will not be affected.
[13:06] <king> How do I make usb composite speaker's work with Ubuntu 8.10?
[13:06] <jrib> oma-opa: never mind, you said you enable all of them.  Ok.  How about creating a fresh new user and see if the problem exists there?
[13:06] <amro> jrib: thanks I'll try that
[13:07] <jrib> talto1: yes?
[13:07] <diamonds> hey guys, could anyone help me? im trying to install a package called libhpi but its not listed, can anyone help??
[13:07] <quibbler> !bg
[13:08] <dixon208> how do i get cheat engine to work?
[13:08] <Stroganoff> diamonds: libhpi.so should be part of sun-java6-bin
[13:08] <jrib> dixon208: what is "cheat engine"?
[13:08] <ikonia> dixon208: ?
[13:09] <rakudave> king: I had to remove pulse-audio to get mine to work
[13:09] <king> rakudave, Oh
[13:09] <king> rakudave, Could you please point me to the links, references that helped you?
[13:09] <king> rakudave, I was really hoping that I could get it to work with pulseaudio
[13:09] <oma-opa> jrib this is my grandma and grandpas pc Id would prefer to change as few things as possible, so they wont get confused. http://pastebin.com/maababb5 this is the list a normal DVD works fine, its a svcd recorded by a panasonic dvd burner, that doesnt work
[13:10] <ikonia> dixon208: what cheat engine are you talking about, ?
[13:10] <king> ikonia, Would you know how do I get usb composite speakers to work with Ubuntu 8.10?
[13:10] <billisnice> how do you set 8.04 to update automatically when needed?
[13:10] <rakudave> king: simply "sudo apt-get remove pulse-audio" in a terminal
[13:10] <ikonia> king: composite speakers ?
[13:10] <dixon208> Cheat Engine - [1] Cheat Engine is used for cheating in computer games, and is often modified and recompiled to evade detection. This program resembles L. Spiro's "Memory Hacking Software", Tsearch, and ArtMoney. It searches for values input by the user with a wide variety of options that allow the user to find and sort through the memory database. Cheat Engine can also create standalone trainers that can operate indep
[13:10] <ikonia> king: I don't even know what they are
[13:10] <ikonia> dixon208: this is support for the ubuntu operating system - I think you have the wrong place
[13:10] <jrib> oma-opa: you can remove the user afterwards of course.  But this is disc-specific?
[13:10] <king> ikonia, Yes, I have a pair of speakers, that connect to my laptop via usb. They get power as well as audio input from the same port.
[13:10] <dixon208> o, ok
[13:10] <king> rakudave, And then? It starts working?
[13:11] <rakudave> king: it did for me
[13:11] <uni4dfx> hi, my Win key isn't recognized (xev)... is there anything i can do to reset all the keyboard mapping junk? (i think something broke when i installed and removed scim)
[13:11] <king> rakudave, Doesn't anything else breakdown? I mean the whole sound is now handled by pulse audio.
[13:11] <ikonia> king: never tried, I imagne it's just treated as a usb device
[13:11] <king> ikonia, Yes.
[13:11] <king> rakudave, How do you change between the internal speakers (of the laptop) and the usb speakers?
[13:11] <diamonds> hey guys, could anyone help me? im trying to install a package called libhpi but its not listed, can anyone help??
[13:11] <rakudave> king: no, ALSA is responsible for your sound, pulse-audio is just a tool to "connect" multiple sources
[13:11] <oma-opa> jrib I could watch a normal dvd with oma-opa user rights and this svcd with su rights but no svcd with oma-opa rights
[13:12] <jrib> oma-opa: ok.  Try the new user
[13:12] <rakudave> king: change speakers in "system--settings--sound"
[13:13] <oma-opa> jrib normal dvd works fine, Ill try to set up a new user now
[13:14] <king> rakudave, Wouldn't removing pulse audio cause any other problems?
[13:14] <Safe> I seriously need help with what is what in /etc/network/interfaces.
[13:14] <king> rakudave, Are there some other things that you have got to change?
[13:14] <oma-opa> jrib I did useradd test and passwd test, anything else needed?
[13:15] <rakudave> king: i had no problems after removing it, but you can always reinstall it by "sudo apt-get install pulse-audio"
[13:15] <Safe> What is broadcast and what is network, exactly?
[13:15] <jrib> oma-opa: delete that one and do « adduser test » instead
[13:15] <alaz> How do i turn of networkmanager?
[13:15] <uni4dfx> what must be done to configure a key that isn't recognized by xev?
[13:16] <king> rakudave, I found a solution. In the Preferences > Sound dialog box I just selected my usb devices in sound playback and they work!
[13:16] <king> rakudave, Did you try that?
[13:16] <lstarnes> Safe: the broadcast is the broadcast address used by the network.  It's often the first three parts of your IP with .255 on yhe end
[13:16] <oma-opa> jrib how can I delete the group?
[13:16] <lstarnes> *the
[13:16] <rakudave> king: Good for you :-) Mine wouldn't while pulse was still around...
[13:17] <king> rakudave, Thanks for the tip, I figured out at some point I would have to select the usb speakers in the Sound dialog box but I couldn't believe that it would really 'just work'!
[13:17] <Safe> Noone who knows? Or am I just being really stupid?
[13:17] <lstarnes> Safe: did you mean network or netmask?
[13:17] <amro> jrib: aptitude: unrecognized option '--disable-columns'
[13:18] <uni4dfx> bump :P
[13:18] <rakudave> king: I didn't think of suggesting that, as it hasn't worked in my case... :-/
[13:18] <rakudave> king: but if it does for you, good :-D
[13:18] <jrib> oma-opa: deluser/delgroup
[13:19] <king> I was fiddling with the sound controls in the Volume Control dialog box to get the microphone jack in my Dell-1525 to work. But it never worked! But in the process now whenever I change the volume from my laptop's dedicated volume-up/down keys it doesn't affect the master volume slider, though I still get a on-screen message that the volume is increasing/decreasing. Anyone?
[13:19] <king> rakudave, :)
[13:19] <sabalord> '
[13:20] <khoi> tui moi dung co gi chi voi nha
[13:21] <oma-opa> jrib ok new user test created
[13:21] <jrib> amro: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ see if you can figure out how to get long names to show up I guess
[13:22] <oma-opa> jrib shall I change user and have a try as test?
[13:22] <jrib> amro: I *think* you can just drop that option, check
[13:22] <jrib> oma-opa: sure
[13:23] <ezerhoden> king: does removing and adding the sound applet help?
[13:25] <king> ezerhoden, No.
[13:25] <quibbler> !vn
[13:25] <RickX> anyone know if you can run compiz as an independent window manager, like windowmaker or icewm?
[13:26] <oma-opa> test cant access it either
[13:26] <khoi> cac bac cho tui bit lam sao go tieng viet ko
[13:26] <amro> jrib: yeah I did it, just poiting out it the option is invalid
[13:26] <kimkvir> Hello! I'm transcoding dvb-t recordings with Mythbuntu 8.04. In one channel transcoding of the recordings is not working, others it's working. Can someone help me please?
[13:26] <jrib> oma-opa: ok, pastebin the full error, then try mplayer and see what error you get
[13:26] <jrib> amro: it worked ok?
[13:27] <Yossarian> ohoy, i have a fairly silly question. i'm on ubuntu intrepid x64 and my suspend button doesn't work
[13:27] <quibbler> khoi: Chúc mừng năm mới 2009 | Chào mừng bạn đến với kênh chat của cộng đồng Ubuntu Việt | Trang chủ: http://www.ubuntu-vn.org | Diễn đàn: http://forum.ubuntu-vn.org | Tài liệu: http://wiki.ubuntu-vn.org | Xem các bản lưu IRC tại: http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/
[13:27] <Yossarian> i THINK it worked when i installed, though that may have been in x32, i don't remember
[13:28] <Yossarian> so the suspend BUTTON doesn't work, but i can suspend from main menu/shut down
[13:28] <amro> jrib: yep, now need to figure out a way to get all those packages across
[13:28] <jrib> !clone =~ s/--disable-columns//
[13:28] <jrib> amro: thanks
[13:29] <oma-opa> jrib http://pastebin.com/m2ab6e840
[13:30] <ganesh> i am new to ubuntu how to install vlc? i just installed ubuntu 8.10
[13:30] <oma-opa> ganesh sudo apt-get install vlc into the terminal
[13:31] <Yossarian> bump
[13:31] <Daemonic> where?
[13:31] <kirinaaa> #omairi
[13:31] <kirinaaa> xD
[13:31] <stefg> ganesh: there's even a handy 'add/remove software' menu point in the applications menu
[13:31] <furenku> Whenever I try to shut down, my system hangs with a "acpid: exiting" message. I recently upgraded to Intrepid
[13:31] <Daemonic> I need a bump. my high is totally blown.
[13:32] <Yossarian> lol Daemonic
[13:32] <stefg> furenku: have you installed keytouch ?
[13:32] <furenku> stefg, not that i know
[13:32] <oma-opa> jrib it works with mplayer
[13:33] <Daemonic> something is wrong here.. this kernel compile is taking /forever/ on a majorly overclocked core 2 quad. wtf?
[13:33] <jrib> oma-opa: hmm, don't know then.  Check for bugs on bugs.gnome.org and bugs.ubuntu.com
[13:33] <stefg> furenku: ok, b/c that package has a bug causing this on some machines
[13:33] <furenku> stefg, i just apt-cache searched it I don't have it installed
[13:34] <furenku> stefg, so, has to be something else
[13:34] <ganesh> stefg: i searched for vlc in add/remove but its not there
[13:34] <stefg> furenku: it's not installed by default, and if your media-keys work anyway there should have been no reason to instal it
[13:34] <Daemonic> my old 3200 athlon would compile faster than this.. what in the hell...
[13:35] <furenku> stefg, could it be a really bad idea to uninstall acpid?
[13:35] <diffred> sorry linguistic question, which is correct "things that I encounter in the day to day" or "on the day to day"
[13:35] <edi_99> Hi guys, is there any such program as ie MS Reader, for reading ebooks?
[13:35] <stefg> furenku: on some laprops... yes
[13:35] <furenku> so maybe not mess with it...
[13:35] <tikka> Hi I have a question regarding touchpad, Option "SHMConfig" "on", is required by some tool to modify the touchpad settings but the xorg.conf doesn't look like its used how it used to be and im confused. My goal is to stop phantum clicking while I am typing, so reducing the sensitivity of the click value.
[13:36] <hbekel> diffred: day in day out, or just everyday
[13:36] <bn43> hi anyone using the E220 hauwei 3g modem here?  I'm trying to understand why there is a creation of 6 ttyUSB# when the modem is left in on reboot and then only 2 when reattach
[13:36] <jrib> tikka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[13:36] <stefg> ganesh: switch to 'all applications' not just 'canonical supported' .. it's there, beleive me
[13:36] <tikka> thanks jrib I will take a look now
[13:36] <diffred> hbekel: thanks! so "things that I encounter day in day out?"
[13:37] <oma-opa> jrib this is really awkward nautilus wont open the directory on the dvd as normal user but only as su
[13:38] <rotkeppchen> hi
[13:38] <jrib> oma-opa: what permissions are on it?
[13:38] <ganesh> stefg:oh yes..thanx a lot
[13:38] <ezerhoden> Daemonic: too many modules selected
[13:38] <rotkeppchen> grmlgrmlhmpfhmpf
[13:38] <oma-opa> jrib dr-xr-xr-x  4 4294967295 4294967295  136 2007-10-08 11:32 cdrom0
[13:39] <quibbler> hbekel: in the day to day does sound poetical
[13:39] <rakudave> tikka: have you tried "TouchFreeze" yet?
[13:39] <jrib> oma-opa: and on the corresponding directory in /media?
[13:39] <olavimmanuel> is there a way to do a clean reinstall of 8.10 remotely?
[13:39] <Yossarian> anyone any idea on the sleep button thing>
[13:39] <Yossarian> ?
[13:39] <oma-opa> jrib lrwxrwxrwx  1 root       root          6 2008-12-21 21:27 cdrom -> cdrom0  both are from /media
[13:40] <tikka> jrib: thanks, im off to reboot etc.
[13:40] <stefg> furenku: reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/288863 might give you a clue
[13:40] <furenku> stefg, thanx
[13:40] <king> olavimmanuel, You could connect via VNC once the remote machine has booted from the live-cd. But someone has to boot from the CD.
[13:40] <jrib> oma-opa: and you can « ls /media/cdrom/ », but « nautilus /media/cdrom/ » does not work?
[13:40] <olavimmanuel> king: thanks :P
[13:41] <oma-opa> jrib ls /media/cdrom/VIDEO_TS  gives me a permission denied, too
[13:41] <king> olavimmanuel, I figured that you may already know that. But if you set up the machine so that it wakes up on LAN, and set the BIOS to boot from CD always, then the only thing the person would have to do is put the boot-cd inside.
[13:42] <jrib> oma-opa: permissions on that?
[13:42] <oma-opa> yes
[13:42] <jrib> oma-opa: I mean "what are they?" :)
[13:43] <king> olavimmanuel, one more thing, I guessed if you had enough competence you could just sudo rm -f the config files and overwrite them.
[13:43] <oma-opa> jrib dr-x------ 2 4294967295 4294967295  404 2007-10-08 11:45 VIDEO_TS
[13:43] <cahaya-03> gundul
[13:43] <tikka> jrib: that's my touchpad sorted, thanks a lot!
[13:43] <olavimmanuel> king: ok
[13:43] <jrib> oma-opa: erm, well that explains it I guess.  No idea why it's using uid 4294967295 and gid 4294967295
[13:43] <adaptr> nobody
[13:44] <olavimmanuel> king: seems easier to simply go there. thanks :D
[13:44] <jrib> oma-opa: 2^32 -1 right?
[13:44] <bn43> Hi does anyone use the E220 hauwei modem here
[13:44] <bn43> ?
[13:44] <oma-opa> jrib dont know that term sry
[13:44] <jrib> oma-opa: which term?
[13:45] <Safe> What is the problem when ping returns "no such hosts"?
[13:45] <oma-opa> 2^32 -1
[13:45] <rotkeppchen> lol
[13:45] <jrib> oma-opa: I mean 2 raised to the 32nd power minus 1, just some number
[13:45] <ezerhoden> jrib: you figure that out in your head?
[13:46] <jrib> ezerhoden: I guessed and checked
[13:46] <Daniel_G> exit
[13:46] <oma-opa> jrib oh this is about the 429....
[13:46] <ezerhoden> jrib: impressive
[13:46] <jrib> oma-opa: right
[13:47] <oma-opa> jrib so in the end this is probably related to the dvd burner, which is a panasonic whatsoever tv to dvd burner
[13:47] <ezerhoden> jrib: i dont have that many fingers and toes :(
[13:47] <req^> I have a stange problem. My ubuntu desktop system has en_US.utf-9 locale and so does my server, and my characters are correct. However when I alt+[number] to change windows in irssi I get strange symbols like "±²³´µ¶·". How should I go about fixing this?
[13:47] <oma-opa> jrib requesting su rights for playing a dvd . . . odd
[13:47] <jrib> oma-opa: here's one bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/10550/+viewstatus
[13:48] <kalimero> req^: i get the same in xterm, in rxvt its fine... dont knowing the cause
[13:48] <diamonds> hi, does anyone know how to install Rivendell on ubuntu?
[13:48] <req^> kalimero: Ah ok, I'm using xterm now, will try others. Thanks :)
[13:48] <kalimero> try in xterm ESC+number . works for me
[13:48] <oma-opa> jrib thats it!!!! so all I can do is wait for a patch, right?
[13:49] <req^> esc+number works too, great
[13:49] <cphillips> anyone have experience with getting an - Intel wifi 5100 agn - wireless card to work well in ubuntu? im using intrepid
[13:49] <Eber> guys, i'm trying to use lighttpd here but when I try to serve images, I get the following error ::: sendfile failed: Value too high for define data type 7... any idea?!?
[13:50] <jrib> oma-opa: more discussion: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/10550 .  Yeah, it's probably a good idea to subscribe to that bug and keep track of what happens.  And if you think you can provide more info, then just comment with it
[13:50] <oma-opa> jrib thanks for your help
[13:50] <nkei0> I'm retarded, I forgot what I'm supposed to do with the two files i downloaded for a program... they are .tgz and .tgz.bz2
[13:50] <diamonds> I have been trying a week now and i still havent been able to install Rivendell Radio Automation software on my ubuntu or open SUSE 11.1 installations
[13:50] <mp3guy> hi, both of my computers use wifi to connect to the internet, I want to transfer files between them using a 4 port hub dsl hub, but whenever they're both connected to the lan, the internet doesn't work on either of them, how can I set ubuntu to use the wlan0 interface for the internet and eth0 for networking?
[13:50] <jrib> nkei0: what program?
[13:51] <ed_> hi, am i going mad? where has the count program gone?
[13:51] <nkei0> jrib: acerhk (acer hotkeys)  I had to reinstall Ubuntu because I couldn't revert my video card driver so now I have to get my wireless working again.
[13:51] <jrib> ed_: what count program?
[13:51] <samsom> ##ubuntubeginners-education
[13:51] <ed_> jrib: ya know, cat files | sort | count
[13:51] <jrib> nkei0: are you using the repository?
[13:52] <jrib> ed_: you mean wc?
[13:52] <samsom> #ubuntubeginners-education
[13:52] <nkei0> jrib: It isn't in the repositories.
[13:52] <__Ali__> anyone else has problems with skype after upgrading to 8.10?
[13:52] <ed_> jrib: no, that tells you characters, `count` prefixes each line wiht the number of times it appears consecutively
[13:52] <__Ali__> like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=959541
[13:52] <jrib> !info acerhk-source | ed_ is it different than this?
[13:52] <ed_> jrib: yes, its nothing like wc
[13:53] <jrib> ed_: well what do you want count to do?
[13:53] <ed_> jrib: suppose the file contains abc\ndef\ndef, the count output is 1\tabc\n2\tdef
[13:54] <khamael> is it possible to turn of the "tap-click" function of my touchpad?
[13:55] <un_dave> hey all
[13:55] <un_dave> just in the process of debugging an issue with firefox
[13:55] <nkei0> jrib: What do I do to compile or install or whatever it is these files do?
[13:55] <un_dave> when i click maximize, the window flickers between maximized and windowed...
[13:56] <un_dave> about 2 times per second. it seems like a compiz issue, but i cant track it down
[13:56] <mp3guy> hi, both of my computers use wifi to connect to the internet, I want to transfer files between them using a 4 port hub dsl hub, but whenever they're both connected to the lan, the internet doesn't work on either of them, how can I set ubuntu to use the wlan0 interface for the internet and eth0 for networking?
[13:56] <KevDog>  Is there a cifs or smbfs expert in the house?
[13:57] <quibbler> nkei0: read here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[13:57] <sunshine> Hey, i want to get rid of the gnome-keyring manager, but i can't uninstall due to dependencies. How to disable it? Unfortunately I enabled it by giving a password during wlan connection.
[13:57] <jrib> nkei0: /usr/share/doc/acerhk-source/README.Debian probably explains, otherwise try googling "acerhk-source debian" as I've never used this
[13:57] <nkei0> quibbler: thanks
[13:57] <nkei0> jrib thx
[13:57] <stefg> mp3guy: you probably have to set up static routes. BTW is there any particular reason why the internet goes wireless while the rest is wired?
[13:58] <janhenrik> Hi, I try to install Ubuntu for the first time. I boot from the cd, choose to install ubuntu, gets the ubuntu loading screen and the screen gets black. I can hear the computer working, but I cant see anything. Why?
[13:58] <mp3guy> stefg, well my internet comes through cable and then is wifi'd around the house, but I want to connect these two computers using lan to transfer files
[13:59] <jrib> ed_: cat does this
[13:59] <jrib> ed_: and nl
[13:59] <ed_> jrib: bad example
[13:59] <jrib> ed_: eh?
[14:00] <janhenrik> ..and the monitor LED is just blinking
[14:00] <ed_> jrib: suppose the file contains abc\ndef\ndef\n123\n123, the count output is 1\tabc\n2\tdef\n2\t123
[14:00] <stefg> mp3guy: so you have probably two contzradicting dhcp servers...one from the wlan access point and one from the wired router. Use static IPs
[14:00] <KevDog> Is cifs for a one way transfer of ubuntu to/from windows, but not windows to/from ubuntu?
[14:00] <jrib> ed_: cat does this (more specifically with -n).  And nl also does this
[14:00] <janhenrik> There are no problems with the cd according to the inbuilt tool
[14:01] <tom_eats_lives> buying second computer screen does it have to be same mark?
[14:01] <jrib> ed_: you want to number the lines right?
[14:01] <ed_> jrib: that just prefixes a line number. its not the same as outputting the number of times the string appears in the file
[14:01] <jrib> ed_: ah
[14:01] <jrib> ed_: uniq
[14:01] <mp3guy> stefg, whats the best way to set this up then?
[14:02] <Safe> So, what do I have to do if my network config is bork somehow and all I get when I ping is "no such host"?
[14:03] <stefg> mp3guy: have you tried to connect the two machines directly? if it's quite new machines their nic's will have auto-crossover detection
[14:03] <RussM> ed_: You want to count the number of times each word appears in a text file?
[14:03] <ed_> ahah!
[14:03] <ed_> thanks uniq -c
[14:04] <janhenrik> Anyone? I really want to try Ubuntu
[14:04] <stefg> janhenrik: tried the safe graphics mode?
[14:04] <bigbucks> wow
[14:04] <janhenrik> stefg: no. how do I do that?
[14:04] <bigbucks> I am on ubuntu, installing it and it said I was in a proxy =/
[14:04] <ed_> thanks jrib
[14:05] <bigbucks> installing ubuntu takes a loooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnng time
[14:05] <eldarion> is there a tool to controle 2 (or more) systems by 1 screen/keybrd/mouse
[14:06] <Safe> eldarion, synergy. :)
[14:06] <Safe> http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[14:06] <eldarion> Thanks I google synergy
[14:06] <stefg> janhenrik: F6 at the boot-prompt gives you some fail-safe options
[14:07] <bigbucks> do people make programs for ubuntu?
[14:08] <Safe> stefg, it didn't really go as planned with installing gnome-network-admin, since I have no connection and I'm not sure I've configured it properly via /etc/network/interfaces.
[14:08] <jrib> bigbucks: nah, one program was made a long time ago to make all the other programs.  It was originally called "ubuntu_program_maker", but it renamed itself to "skynet" for some reason.  No really, of course people make programs for ubuntu
[14:08] <oCean_> bigbucks: there are hundreds of programs for ubuntu
[14:08] <Safe> Ifconfig says the IPs are right, but when I try to ping something it wont work.
[14:08] <amro> jrib: not people, code monkeys :)
[14:08] <janhenrik> Ok, will try
[14:08] <mp3guy> stefg, I'll try that now
[14:09] <stefg> Safe: gnome-network-admin is nothing but a GUI for /etc/network/interfaces... but getting rid of network-manager makes /etc/network/interfaces meaningful again
[14:09] <Safe> Yeah I know, but I'm not sure what everything is. broadcast and network for example.
[14:09] <MARINE1> did backup config to my desktop nad now i can't locate it
[14:10] <oCean_> Safe: what ip's are you trying to ping. Do you have a default route setup correctly?
[14:10] <Safe> stefg, I do believe that the DNS config is the problem.
[14:10] <stefg> Safe: and you can always run 'sudo dhclient/eth0' to get network (if you have a dhcp-server in your network
[14:10] <Safe> oCean_, nothing works, just get "no such host". And no, I don't really know. :)
[14:10] <Safe> stefg, I have static though.
[14:11] <oCean_> Safe: failing to ping an ip address is not because of incorrect dns(settings) failing to ping a hostname might
[14:11] <stefg> Safe: so you need to figure out the ip of your DNS server and write that to /etc/resolv.conf . can you ping a known IP ?
[14:11] <MARINE1> did backup config and saved it to my desktop now i can't find it
[14:11] <Safe> stefg, I have done that. No, can't even ping myself.
[14:12] <Safe> I'm dualbooting so it's a little hard to troubleshoot too.
[14:12] <oCean_> Safe: type "route -n" Line starting with "0.0.0.0" is your default route. 2nd field is your default gateway. Can you ping that address?
[14:12] <uni4dfx> my win key doesn't work... i need to reinstall ubuntu for that right?
[14:12] <stefg> Safe: if there's no firewall involved then it's no DNS problem
[14:12] <sezoom_> how to start a private conversation with certain nikname
[14:12] <spine_55> who spine55
[14:12] <Safe> oCean_, it's a little hard to try since I'm in windws now.
[14:12] <oCean_> Safe: can you ping 127.0.0.1 and/or 127.0.1.1
[14:12] <MARINE1>  did backup config and saved it to my desktop now i can't find it
[14:13] <dodimar> trying to change root password but getting this error
[14:13] <dodimar> passwd: Authentication information cannot be recovered
[14:13] <dodimar> passwd: password unchanged
[14:13] <janhenrik> stefg: F4 -> safe graphics mode = works
[14:13] <Thoben> sezoom_: "/msg nick"
[14:13] <jrib> dodimar: why are you trying to change it?  Did you ever set one?
[14:13] <mp3guy> stefg, both have detected it, I think the crossover is working, how do I setup a route? I'm using ubuntu 8.10 and standard network manager
[14:13] <Safe> Let's just play out the different scenarios of what I need to do.
[14:13] <stefg> janhenrik: ah.. so it'S F4 not F6
[14:13] <janhenrik> yes
[14:13] <sezoom_> Thanks Thoben
[14:13] <W_McL> uni4dfx, no, you don't need to reinstall. the key very likely just isn't configured right
[14:13] <janhenrik> thanks anyway
[14:13] <oCean_> Safe: ah, ok. Write those things down to try. While in windows find out what your default gw address is. You should use that address in ubuntu too...
[14:14] <dodimar> @jrib: for some domain authentication...
[14:14] <MARINE1>  did backup config and saved it to my desktop now i can't find it
[14:14] <Safe> Yeah, I have that one configured too.
[14:14] <uni4dfx> W_McL: how do i check if it's configured right
[14:14] <Safe> Everything in /etc/network/interfaces seems to be alright. I have the right address, gateway and netmask.
[14:15] <MARINE1> then i used system restore and no back up exist but it used about a gig to do the process
[14:15] <oCean_> dodimar: by default there is no root pw
[14:15] <W_McL> in the "system" menu under "settings" there is an option "keyboard" (don't confuse with "keyboard shortcuts")
[14:15] <MARINE1>  did backup config and saved it to my desktop now i can't find it
[14:15] <stefg> mp3guy: so if you run 'ifconfig' on both machines do the wired interfaces show up and have a 'inet address' ?
[14:16] <cphillips> where should comat-wireless be installed?
[14:16] <Safe> oCean_, sorry to be a pain, but may I annoy you further when I have tried it with a PM?
[14:16] <pacifico10> Hi there! I installed ubuntu studio and when setting up my ati radeon 9600 properties (extended desktop) the screen gone blank (black, actually) and never returned, not even after rebooting. I'm new ou linux, don´t know a single command...
[14:16] <cphillips> compat*wireless
[14:16] <oCean_> Safe: keep in in the channel. Maybe I'm gone, maybe others can/will correct me if i'm wrong..
[14:17] <Safe> Alright.,
[14:17] <Luux> hey guys can someone help me ? i cant install THC-Hydra..
[14:17] <MARINE1> need help did backup config and saved it to my desktop now i can't find it
[14:17] <mp3guy> stefg, neither do, just inet6 addresses
[14:17] <Luux> the ./configure make make install are not working theyre giving erros..
[14:17] <Luux> help pls..
[14:17] <lstarnes> Luux: what errors?
[14:18] <oCean_> !repeat | MARINE1
[14:18] <Luux> lstarnes, wait
[14:18] <MARINE1>   did backup config and saved it to my desktop now i can't find it
[14:18] <cphillips> what directory should i put compat-wireless in? i dont want it sitting on my desktop until the end of time
[14:18] <stefg> mp3guy: but the interfaces get listed... so they are there, but not configured
[14:18] <MARINE1> oCean_, did backup config and saved it to my desktop now i can't find it
[14:18] <mp3guy> stefg, also wifi internet is currently working on both machines
[14:18] <MrBC> I'm leaving pclinuxos for ubuntu.  Loaded up ubuntu to install and am having problems with the partitioner.  Trying to save two partitions and format the "/" partition.  Gives me errors.
[14:18] <oCean_> MARINE1: please behave
[14:18] <bonhoffer> i am running ubuntu 8.10 -- connected to a bridge: linksys wet546 and am not able to get an ip -- everything was working fine for 2 months -- any troubleshooting options?
[14:19] <mp3guy> stefg, yep, the machine I'm using now has the following listed http://pastebin.com/m3652ec4e
[14:19] <MARINE1> oCean_, that's your answer wow lot of help
[14:19] <MrBC> The errors point to fixing with Tune2fs and debugfs
[14:19] <arbeck77> I have a microsoft wireless mouse that has four buttons (3 buttons + scroll/tilt will).  The left and right click work, as does the scroll and tilt wheel.  However middle click does nothing, and so does the fourth button.  Is there anyway to configure them?
[14:20] <jback1> hi there, i have a question to installing ubuntu via live cd. Does it copy the current state of the live session to the hdd or a default one? does it make sense to delete programs i don't need and upgrade the system BEFORE installing ubuntu?
[14:20] <W_McL> uni4dfx, found that? in the keyboard setup application there's a tab called "layout", where you find a button "other options" there you can open a menu in which you can for example set up a specific behaviour for the alt/ and win keys.
[14:20] <stefg> mp3guy: i'm not familliar with network-manager , but it shouldn't be to hard to just tell network manager that you want. eg. 192.168.0.1 for one machien and 192.168.0.2 for the other (on their respective wired interfaces)
[14:21] <MARINE1> oCean_, still waiting
[14:21] <uni4dfx> W_McL: yea i found it, the current alt/win option is "default"
[14:21] <mp3guy> stefg, ok so ipv4 settings should be manual, I need an address, a netmask, a gateway, then there's also a DNS servers box and a Search domains box
[14:21] <crischan> hi, i have a brand new 1TB external USB disk, which i reformated to ext3 fs. now my 8.10 (Gnome) mounts it right, but does not give me write perms. what mount options do i need?
[14:21] <bonhoffer> if i do sudo ifup eth0 i get ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[14:22] <belesprit> Hey, I am completely new to linux... got frustrated last night and nuked windows. I got ubuntu working fine (more or less) My question is where can I find a good starting resource, i.e. books, documents, etc that will teach me how to use the terminal?
[14:22] <bonhoffer> it is like i don't even have a cable plugged in -- but i am plugged into my wet546 router
[14:22] <W_McL> uni4dfx, then try to set it to "Meta is mapped to the Win-keys"
[14:23] <stefg> mp3guy: all you need is give the wired interfaces an IP and a netmask. i suggest using 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.2.2 ... gateway and DNS is only needed for internet, but that's on a different interface
[14:23] <mp3guy> stefg, ok I'll give it a go
[14:23] <uni4dfx> W_McL: tried, but it still won't show up in xev
[14:23] <fogobogo> http://cb.vu/
[14:23] <MrBC> Anyone know anything about debugfs or Tune2fs?
[14:23] <mp3guy> stefg, do I need to worry about IPv4 routes?
[14:23] <stefg> mp3guy: later
[14:24] <quibbler> belesprit: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:24] <W_McL> uni4dfx, ok. then you checked if you setup the right keyboard layout? (in the GUI and in you Xorg.conf)
[14:25] <belesprit> thanks quibbler
[14:25] <RussM> mp3guy, If they're in the same network (192.168.2.x w/ netmask 255.255.255.0) you don't need a route
[14:25] <Daemonic> http://pastebin.com/d392ff47e <- how would I go about stripping the three zero's off the end out that output? I'm trying to get a temp monitor setup with conky but those zeros kind of mess it up
[14:25] <quibbler> belesprit: you are welcome
[14:26] <vineeth> heloo
[14:26] <uni4dfx> W_McL: yes... though i can't seem to select a default layout in the Keyboard settings.. all the optionboxes are unselected
[14:26] <vineeth> join#ubuntu
[14:26] <oCean_> !hi | vineeth
[14:26] <fogobogo> vineeth: u r already there
[14:26] <arbeck77> Can someone help me configure extra mouse buttons in 8.10?
[14:26] <vineeth> helooo help me i am new man here
[14:27] <mp3guy> stefg, RussM, thanks it's working perfectly now, transfering files over crossover lan while wifi still working on both, thanks a lot :)
[14:27] <stefg> np
[14:27] <uni4dfx> vineeth: just ask what you need to know
[14:27] <stefg> mp3guy: and try using ftp intead of samba.... much faster
[14:28] <mp3guy> oh? how do I go about that? I've used gftp before for webservers
[14:28] <Stroganoff> arbeck77: install imwheel
[14:28] <W_McL> uni4dfx, weird, but i just reproduced the behavior of the win key not showing up in xev when I put it's behavior to default. Selecting the default layout doesn't work?
[14:28] <vineeth> i got all interpid repository as 6 DVDs how can i install all  in that?
[14:28] <khoi> hey
[14:28] <stefg> mp3guy: just the same... install a ftp server on either box,
[14:28] <oCean_> vineeth: did you mirror an entire repository?
[14:29] <stefg> mp3guy: proftp has a nice gui
[14:29] <RussM> Daemonic, There's a bunch of ways... You could use sed to sub all trailing 000 with an empty string: | sed -e 's/000$//'
[14:29] <Stroganoff> vineeth you don't want to install 6 dvds worth of software. you won't need 95% of it i guess
[14:29] <vineeth> i got as 6 dvds from local
[14:29] <mp3guy> stefg, cool, I'll try it out. I get about 5MB/s using samba, will it be much faster on ftp?
[14:29] <uni4dfx> W_McL: will it make it default if i just have one layout in that list?
[14:29] <Daemonic> RussM: thank you sir. that works wonders!
[14:29] <arbeck77> mp3guy: instead of ftp or samba, I like NFS... i find it's the best solution when I have mac's windows and linux across my house, but it's easier than ftp
[14:29] <oCean_> vineeth: usually one just downloads the install-cd. After installing you can use packagemanagers to add programs you want
[14:29] <uni4dfx> W_McL: even though the "Default" optionbox is unchecked
[14:29] <stefg> mp3guy: i get 11MB/s over a 100m line with ftp
[14:30] <vineeth> but i want to check all programs and what is in it
[14:30] <W_McL> uni4dfx, I'm not sure, but I here also have only one layout and it's selected
[14:30] <oCean_> vineeth: that makes no sense, does it?
[14:31] <uni4dfx> W_McL: just to show i'm not making stuff up: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/121855/Screenshot-Keyboard%20Preferences.png
[14:31] <coreGirl> hi
[14:31] <vineeth> pls tell in detail i  want to study all programs and its use
[14:31] <W_McL> uni4dfx, I believe you, I had that too some time ago
[14:31] <coreGirl> I've installed intrepid on a notebook but the volume of sound seems half of windows one
[14:32] <Stroganoff> vineeth just browse syaptic
[14:32] <oCean_> vineeth: tell *what* in detail? Ploughing trough all applications might take months
[14:33] <vineeth> i have time no problem
[14:34] <MrBC> How do you KEEP old partitions while installing the OS in the "/" partition?  I'm getting errors (asking to be fixed with Tune2fs and debugfs)
[14:34] <vineeth> my doubt is i added cd  but which programs are in that cd?
[14:34] <Stroganoff> coreGirl: double click on the speaker icon in the systray and set PCM to 100%
[14:34] <coreGirl> it's already to 100 %
[14:34] <Mozillero> olaaa
[14:34] <uni4dfx> W_McL: i think the entire ubuntu keyboard/key mapping and layout business is a total mess
[14:34] <robf> quick question,   I'm using ubuntu 8.10,  I switched to restricted drivers and now X doesn't work
[14:34] <W_McL> uni4dfx, you're using a logitech g15? it seems to be a bit tricky... already checked that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15 ?
[14:34] <robf> how do I go back to default?
[14:35] <robf> I am not sure the xorg.conf settings that need to be in place for this
[14:35] <failers> cant get sound working in 9.04 . in 8.10 i had to add "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1" in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base" but now it doesnt help got any ideas?
[14:35] <uni4dfx> W_McL: the thing is, it was all working until i installed and removed scim
[14:35] <robf> uni4dfx: my g15 works just fine
[14:35] <robf> ah
[14:35] <W_McL> uni4dfx, it's at least a bit weird
[14:35] <stefg> !jaunty | failers
[14:35] <vineeth> in synaptic there r so much programs and when i add cd any more programs come to synaptic?
[14:36] <Stroganoff> coreGirl: see if there's a slider named "Front" and put it up as well. perhaps check the konfiguration of the volume mixer (right click on the speaker icon)
[14:36] <failers> stefg oki
[14:36] <benovic> i have several separate rar archives on a server and want to unrar them via "unrar x *.rar" this doesn work - how can i do it?
[14:36] <robf> quick question,   I'm using ubuntu 8.10,  I switched to restricted drivers and now X doesn't work any idea how to revert to the default witthout restricted usage on command line?
[14:36] <benovic> its not a multifile archive..
[14:36] <pronto> rawr
[14:36] <robf> (ATI)
[14:37]  * stefg thought that
[14:37] <stefg> robf: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg
[14:37] <benovic> find -type f -name '*.rar' -exec unrar x {} \; seems to be good :P
[14:37] <robf> k
[14:37] <stefg> robf: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg that is
[14:38] <fiftyone> join #bitmetv.help
[14:39] <uni4dfx> is it possible to reinstall a package with apt-get so that it purges the config files in one go?
[14:40] <RussM> benovic, unrar x doesn't take multiple archives. If you must do it in a single command line, you  could do "for x in *.rar; do unrar x $x; done
[14:40] <bigbucks> be back soon
[14:41] <benovic> RussM: thank you! actually unrar x '*.rar' does the job right now!
[14:41] <benovic> wonderful :)
[14:41] <fiftyone> #google
[14:41] <Jampiter> Hi
[14:41] <Jampiter> What's the keyboard shortcut for the TM trademarked symbol?
[14:42] <W_McL> uni4dfx, never tried scim, so i can't really help there. If you know where the scim configuration is stored, you could try to remove this
[14:42] <uni4dfx> W_McL: the scim configuration is scattered all over the system, and i have no idea how it interacts with with xmodmap either
[14:43] <uni4dfx> W_McL: that's why i wish to reinstall all the X-related config files
[14:43] <fiftyone> I got an unrelated question, IS there a way to search google minus resultts from say 10 years ago? I want to fiind new and relivant information but everytime I do a search in google i get articles and junk from 4 -5 years ago i want stuff posted only this year. Is this possible? sorry about the offtopic question
[14:44] <vineeth> how can i install yahoo messenger
[14:44] <Jampiter> How do I open the equivalent of Character map?
[14:44] <W_McL> uni4dfx, did you already try to rename the gnome related configuration directories to see if it works with a new clean gnome config? this might safe you reinstalling all X related stuff#
[14:44] <dyf> hello
[14:44] <fiftyone> dyf hi
[14:45] <dyf> why oh why does undo my changes to /etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu?
[14:45] <dyf> does ubuntu*
[14:45] <uni4dfx> W_McL: i don't think a local user config is the problem,... it's probably global, but i can try to make a new user just in case, hold on
[14:46] <kjell> I think I've found a bug in ubuntu. Although I don't know how to see if it's already reported or not.
[14:46] <stefg> !bug | kjell
[14:46] <quibbler> Jampiter: add character pallete on panel
[14:46] <vineeth> helooo any body know to install yahoo messenger?
[14:46] <kjell> stefg: How to be sure that it's not reported before? Does that matter?
[14:47] <quibbler> Jampiter: you mean something like this ©
[14:47] <bigbucks> what is the default admin password?
[14:47] <uni4dfx> oh great, the "switch user" option still doesn't work either
[14:47] <uni4dfx> guess i have to log out ...
[14:47] <Jampiter> quibbler: Yes, thank you :)
[14:47] <stefg> kjell: do a search before... but there are already so many dupes in launchpad anyway that one more won't spoil the fun
[14:48] <bigbucks> cuz I just installed it and forgot the username I used
[14:48] <bigbucks> whats the admin pass?
[14:48] <RussM> bigbucks, there is no default root password
[14:48] <oCean_> bigbucks: admin user in linux is called 'root'
[14:48] <oCean_> bigbucks: by default root pw is not enabled
[14:48] <bigbucks> so, root
[14:48] <bigbucks> ok
[14:48] <bigbucks> thanks
[14:48] <stefg> ouch
[14:49] <bigbucks> now to boot it back up
[14:49] <RussM> bigbucks, you can't log in as root unless you specifically manually enabled it (not  recommended)
[14:49] <bigbucks> >.<
[14:49] <bigbucks> I never enabled it anywhere
[14:50] <bigbucks> well
[14:50] <bigbucks> is there a way to find out my use and pass?
[14:50] <RussM> bigbucks, Your best bet would be to use recovery mode.
[14:50] <bigbucks> cuz I forgot it
[14:50] <RAMDAC> Guys i need your opinions on vegastrike?
[14:50] <mroc> i'm having trouble figuring out some install directions for aptana.  can't figure out the directions under setting up jre(directions: http://www.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Installing_Aptana_on_Linux).
[14:50] <stefg> bigbucks: boot to recovery mode, choose 'drop to root-shell' then run 'passwd <username>' and give a new password#
[14:50] <n8tuser> bigbucks-> cat /etc/passwd   should be near the end
[14:51] <Toronto2> i'm having a problem with gnome-terminal .... it does not display a lower case s   .... upper case S is ok ... did a keyboard swap and same results ... all other apps are ok ... any suggestions on where to look to solve this problem?
[14:51] <Ghotler> good day, can someone that how can i check whitch com port is being use on my comp, at moment?
[14:51] <uni4dfx> sweet, i created a new user but it won't login... all i see is brown background
[14:51] <bigbucks> me too
[14:51] <bigbucks> there
[14:52] <bigbucks> I am going to come in the chat on ubuntu
[14:52] <stefg> uni
[14:52] <bigbucks> BRB
[14:52] <Guest86911> Is a german channel available ?
[14:52] <stefg> !de
[14:53] <imdeveloper> I have problem with MAC address. can anyone tell me how to change it? regards.
[14:53] <Guest86911> thx @stefg
[14:54] <jhonnyboy> i need help with some math hw, i need to reduce 2009 mod 11. Can anyone explain the mod theory to me please?
[14:54] <afa> hi
[14:54] <mroc> how do is set my JAVA_HOME variable?
[14:54] <stefg> !offtopic
[14:54] <Stroganoff> jhonnyboy: #math
[14:54] <afa> i need help with display
[14:54] <jhonnyboy> thanks stroganoff
[14:54] <oCean_> mroc: "export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java"
[14:54] <DarkKnight> i have installed mysql but i have problems in logging in...can anyone help
[14:54] <imdeveloper> is anyone going to help me
[14:55] <imdeveloper> :)
[14:55] <n8tuser> imdeveloper-> sudo ip link address macaddr
[14:55] <uni4dfx> imdeveloper: sudo ifconfig <interface> hw ether <new_mac>
[14:55] <n8tuser> imdeveloper-> i think something like that, cant recall exact command
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[14:56] <mroc> oCean_: i'm having trouble figuring out what to put for /path/to/java   i have /usr/lib/jvm/ and three folders in there.
[14:56] <oCean_> DarkKnight: during install you created pw for user root. Use that to login
[14:56] <imdeveloper> is that ethernet
[14:56] <DarkKnight> oCean; i did that but i am not able to login
[14:56] <Bigbucks> I am now on ubuntu
[14:57] <uni4dfx> imdeveloper: you can also use a program called macchanger
[14:57] <oCean_> DarkKnight: you're not very descriptive about your problem.
[14:58] <oCean_> DarkKnight: "mysql -u root -h localhost -p" should get you to the login prompt (pw prompt)
[14:58] <n8tuser> mroc-> ubuntu uses  update-alternatives to manage symlinks  look in  /etc/alternatives
[14:58] <Bigbucks> what does ubuntu server do?
[14:59] <cdavis> Bigbucks: It is a stripped sown version of Desktop
[14:59] <mroc> n8tuser: ah, found it.  thank you.
[14:59] <cdavis> Bigbucks: sown=down
[14:59] <oCean_> mroc: see /etc/alternatives/java. That one is probably linked to the bin/java in one of your subfolders
[14:59] <_capella_> #sane
[14:59] <Bigbucks> ok
[14:59] <mroc> oCean_: thank you.
[14:59] <oCean_> mroc: ow.. I lagged :/
[14:59] <Bigbucks> one last thing
[14:59] <DarkKnight> oCean; okk now i have been able to login...i have installed the Mysql query browser but i was not able to login
[14:59] <Bigbucks> is there a way to make an ubuntu theme?
[15:00] <S7UMPY> does anyone know anything about configuring ushare? so i can stream music and video to my xbox 360
[15:00] <chuckc> i have 3 1TB disks and one os disk.  I want to setup raid 5 on the 3 disks and have them formatted as Linux raid autodetect.  When i create the raid with mdadm, the state shows clean, degraded, recovering  and one of the disks shows  spare rebuilding .  I have tried to zero-superblock the disks and start over with mdadm but i get the same thing.  any ideas?
[15:00] <cdavis> Bigbucks: of course,  however I have no idea how. but I suspect google would be your friend if you asked
[15:00] <Toronto2> i'm having a problem with gnome-terminal .... it does not display a lower case s   .... upper case S is ok ... did a keyboard swap and same results ... all other apps are ok ... any suggestions on where to look to solve this problem?
[15:00] <oCean_> !themes | Bigbucks
[15:01] <regis> hello
[15:01] <cdavis> chuckc: It sounds like they aren't getting setup as raid 5 the os thinks there is a spare
[15:01] <kjell> hello regis
[15:02] <cdavis> Toronto2: I would try ctrl-alt f2 and see if your keyboard works on in a non-gnome terminal
[15:02] <cezzaR> Hi, I have fixed the hard drive click bug on my laptop (hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda), and that is fine, however every time I switch to battery power the bug comes back and I have to manually run the command. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
[15:02] <regis> ah ok i'm french sorry for the language <)) moderate
[15:03] <chuckc> cdavis: ok, how would i change that?
[15:03] <regis> ubuntu-fr ?
[15:03] <cdavis> chuckc: I don't remember all the commands but I think you have to use madm tools and rebuild the array and make sure it is set to raid 5
[15:04] <exodus_ms> !fr
[15:04] <regis> ok bye :<))
[15:04] <quibbler> regis: /join #ubuntu-fr
[15:04] <cdavis> chuckc: are you sure you don't have a bad drive? I wonder if it is creating a raid 5 set then degrading the array becuase it immediately takes one of the drives out?
[15:04] <regis> ty
[15:04] <cezzaR> Hi, I have fixed the hard drive click bug on my laptop (hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda), and that is fine, however every time I switch to battery power the bug comes back and I have to manually run the command. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?
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[15:06] <uni4dfx> note to self: NEVER install kubuntu and turn it into ubuntu
[15:06] <exodus_ms> is there a command I can use at the terminal to see what type of memory is installed?
[15:07] <ShackJack> uni4dfx: That's a good policy :)
[15:07] <n8tuser> exodus_ms-> dmidecode
[15:07] <exodus_ms> n8tuser, ty
[15:07] <oCean_> exodus_ms: also see "sudo lshw -C memory"
[15:08] <ezerhoden> i made two very simple scripts to change the default cpu governor when on battery (conservative) or power (ondemand). I would think an option would be availbe under System > Preferences > Power Management but it is not. is there somehwere to submit this request or the two scripts for consideration as default settings? i would think most people would want extended battery life when not using the battery. Ideas or opinions?
[15:08] <exodus_ms> oCean_, ty
[15:08] <uni4dfx> ShackJack: yea i know... i did it too many times before, and it never ended well xD
[15:09] <ShackJack> Hi all - large format video (hi-def-ish) and Flash often peg my processor and don't play altogether smoothly... My computers no slouch (Core-Duo 1.60) - any tips for improving video performance?
[15:09] <Draken> I have a question, when I first installed ubuntu I had full visual effects but when I installed the updates for ubuntu I lost all visual effects and I cant enable them what happened?
[15:09] <archman> guys should i turn my wlan card to monitor with sudo iwconfig eth1 mode Monitor, or is there any other way to switch it?
[15:10] <rods> Hey all. If I upgrade my version of Virtualbox OSE from 2.0.4 (the version provided by canonical) to 2.1.2, will I lose my virtual machine?
[15:10] <claybustr> trying to get an RAlink 2561 wifi card working under ubuntu 8.04. I followed the scripts out there so far, have blacklisted the stock driver, ndiswrapper -l shows that the windows driver is loaded, added wlan0 to the network/interfaces list and iwlist scan still doesn't see wlan0
[15:10] <Toronto2> cdavis : i tried the lower case s after ctrl-alt-f2 and all i get is a beep from the spkr
[15:10] <ShackJack> rods: Nope ;)
[15:10] <cdavis> Toronto2: only beeps on the s key?
[15:10] <Toronto2> yes
[15:10] <rods> ShackJack: How can I be sure?
[15:10] <usser> rods, shouldnt
[15:10] <_VIM_> rods no it shouldn't but why not make a backup of the VM ?
[15:11] <quibbler> rods: no
[15:11] <ShackJack> rods... THat's just how it works... You can always make a backup if you're paranoid about it...
[15:11] <rods> Thanks all! I will look into making a backup to be safe. I appreciate the help!
[15:11] <rods> (and sometimes I am paranoid ;-) thanks Shack, VIM, Quibb, and usser)
[15:12] <cdavis> Toronto2: and two different keyboards do the same thing? If you have a USB keyboard can you try a ps2 or vice versa?
[15:12] <Toronto2> cdavis : no usb keyboard
[15:13] <phanleson> HI
[15:13] <phanleson> how i can backup my system
[15:13] <Toronto2> cdavis : maybe i'll order a pizza and a 6-pack and RTFM
[15:13] <phanleson> i use ubuntu os
[15:13] <quibbler> !backup
[15:13] <_VIM_> phanleson: rsync
[15:13] <archman> phanleson: remastersys
[15:13] <phanleson> thank
[15:13] <_VIM_> try also Clonezilla
[15:14] <phanleson> what the best in all
[15:14] <_VIM_> !best
[15:14] <cdavis> Toronto2: good luck. I can't think of any  reason why it would only affect lower case s though.
[15:14] <phanleson> thank ubottu
[15:14] <Toronto2> it's a puzzler
[15:15] <phanleson> who are you ? obottu
[15:15] <darkweasel> a bot
[15:15] <archman> phanleson: i tried remastersys and it's awesome; you should give it a try ;)
[15:15] <quibbler> phanleson: don't you love ubuntu so many to choose from
[15:15] <darkweasel> that is, an automated program that says that sentence whenever someone says !best
[15:15] <phanleson> ?
[15:15] <archman> quibbler: yeah, and use half of them to get one type of work done ;)
[15:15] <ubuntu_> Bonjour
[15:16] <quibbler> archman: ;-)
[15:16] <t2009> hello i have this file on my desktop as i need to install last version of pidgin how do i install  it from the source folder i have that is this pidgin-2.5.4 ?
[15:16] <quibbler> !fr
[15:16] <rods> RE: Virtualbox OSE upgrade--to backup, do I just need to save the machine state?
[15:17] <t2009> anyone can help me install pidgin-2.5.4 from the folder i have on my desktop ?
[15:17] <KevDog> t2009: You need a link?
[15:17] <_VIM_> rods i'd backup the entire .virtualbox folder
[15:17] <t2009> no i need a guide
[15:17] <_VIM_> !away > xAndi^away
[15:17] <t2009> couse im new to linux
[15:18] <rods> _VIM_: fair enough. Thanks!
[15:18] <t2009> you how to install it ?
[15:18] <Abs0looteBeginne> HOW COME there is a SAMBA4 Package while samba4 is not released yet ?! >> samba4 - LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix (version 4) << is the output on "apt-cache search samba | grep print"
[15:18] <phanleson> t2009, you can read file install or help in this folder
[15:18] <patholio> how do you change the length of time that a notification appears?
[15:18] <jimcooncat> Want to use kvm. Should I use Hardy or Intrepid? I want easy, but long lasting without upgrade would be a big plus.
[15:18] <KevDog> t2009: give me a second -- I wrote one and can vouch for its accuracy
[15:18] <t2009> thanx
[15:18] <KevDog> t2009: Take a look at this:
[15:19] <KevDog> t2009: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975783
[15:19] <claybustr> !ndiswrapper
[15:19] <t2009> thanx
[15:19] <Abs0looteBeginne> t2009:  why is Pidgin 2.5.2 not good enough ?
[15:19] <KevDog> Just say no to ndiswrapper
[15:19] <phanleson> i think 2.5.2 very good!
[15:19] <t2009> well im using christian ubuntu that runs old 8.04 so i got everything oudate
[15:20] <claybustr> ironically enough that is what ! means, no?
[15:20] <t2009> how can i update to lastest software
[15:20] <phanleson> you can update
[15:20] <KevDog> Who wants to run old software?  2.5.4 the latest and greatest
[15:20] <exodus_ms> I'm using xchat. I can 'highlight' text and it will copy the text (without the need for crtl+c or edit>copy or using a right click option) is there a way to configure this for all my applications, i.e gedit, firefox, console and evolution?
[15:20] <KevDog> 2.5.4 is not contained in any repository just yet
[15:20] <claybustr> besides - ralink rt2561 just flat out doesn't work without ndiswrapper
[15:20] <t2009> can you tell me how to get everyone uptodate on 8.04 ?
[15:20] <_VIM_> !latest
[15:21] <KevDog> Upgrade or install Intrepid
[15:21] <KevDog> 2.5.4 is not in the backports
[15:21] <t2009> i can't as christian ubuntu runs on 8.04
[15:21] <marko-_-> !backports
[15:21] <t2009> that's what im using
[15:21] <Abs0looteBeginne> HOW COME there is a SAMBA4 Package while samba4 is not released yet ?! >> samba4 - LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix (version 4) << is the output on "apt-cache search samba | grep print"
[15:21] <archman> WOW, bcm4311 can go monitor mode now!!! (intrepid)
[15:21] <kbrosnan> exodus_ms: should be fairly standard across many apps, incuding firefox. highlight text -> middle click to paste
[15:21] <marko-_-> !packaging
[15:22] <marko-_-> interesting
[15:22] <KevDog> archman: What driver are you using? b43?
[15:22] <claybustr> can't - this machine is purpose built to run emc2 - 8.04 is the most recent 'out of the box' setup done.
[15:22] <exodus_ms> kbrosnan, yeah, but in xchat all I have to to so is simply highlight, no other action is needed to copy the text
[15:23] <jimcooncat> !prevu
[15:23] <exodus_ms> kbrosnan, sorry, I mis-read what you had posted
[15:23] <claybustr> !emc2
[15:24] <lynn> hi terry
[15:24] <oCean_> Abs0looteBeginne: v4 is not officially released, but it's available.. see FAQ on http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4
[15:24] <lynn> sup eric
[15:24] <exodus_ms> kbrosnan, yeah, that works! thank you. It's the little things you know, that make a difference
[15:24] <lynn> sup exodus
[15:24] <archman> KevDog: yes it's awesome man!!!
[15:25] <archman> KevDog: I can do things with ubuntu now ! ;)
[15:25] <KevDog> archman:  aircrackng.  Could enjoyed these features long ago with an atheros chipset
[15:25] <phanleson> ubottu, what bot?
[15:26] <phanleson> ubottu, how you can do that?
[15:27] <anw> noob question: how can i determine if my pc is 32 or 64 bit?? (PC, not OS)
[15:27] <wbagam> start>run>winver
[15:27] <jimcooncat> !ubottu | phanleson
[15:27] <lynn> it should say
[15:28] <anw> noob question: how can i determine if my pc is 32 or 64 bit, while using linux?? (PC, not OS)
[15:28] <_VIM_> !repeat | anw
[15:28] <claybustr> !emc2 is EMC2 is a software system for computer control of machine tools such as milling machines, cutting machines, robots, hexapods, etc. http://www.linuxcnc.org/
[15:28] <archman> KevDog: sure! ;) i had to run backtrack2 for those things...
[15:28] <KevDog> !patience
[15:28] <archman> KevDog: not anymore i hope ;)
[15:29] <KevDog> archman: Don't know what backtrack2 is, but glad that b43 drivers are now "up to speed"
[15:30] <croivzeba> backtrack2 is a distro with umm "network penetration" utilities lol
[15:30] <archman> KevDog: bt2 is a whole new os based on slackware, used for "security and penetration and stuff"
[15:30] <archman> runs livecd
[15:30] <swiftarrow> Excuse me, newbie here with an emergency.  I just normally shut down my laptop with xubuntu intrepid, and when I turned it back on, the keyboard and trackpad do not work.  External mouse works, kbd and trackpad both have no complaints in another OS or before ubuntu loads.  Help please....
[15:30] <KevDog> I prefer the term network fortification capabilities :)
[15:31] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, what laptop
[15:31] <KevDog> I have to take a look at bt2.  Thanks!!!
[15:31] <swiftarrow> exodus, it's a dell vostro 1510.  has not had problems till now
[15:31] <quibbler> anw: uname -m
[15:31] <ldlework> Does anyone know why I have massive packet loss every few seconds with the Broadcom wireless adapter?
[15:31] <lyhana8> hi, i got the following error :
[15:31] <lyhana8> [: 35: ==: unexpected operator
[15:31] <lyhana8> with this script http://pastebin.com/f2df1c281
[15:31] <lyhana8> do you see what's the problem ?
[15:31] <FloodBot1> lyhana8: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <Vonor> hi
[15:32] <mrwes> ldlework, you try changing the channel the router is on?
[15:32] <Vonor> anyone in here using gnome-globalmenu?
[15:32] <ldlework> mrwes, I will try that thanks.
[15:32] <mrwes> ldlework, worked for me :)
[15:33] <swiftarrow> @vonor, I've used it. before i switched to xfce
[15:33] <ldlework> mrwes, you using the broadcom adapter?
[15:33] <shankhs> hi
[15:33] <AutoMatriX> hi sh
[15:33] <Vonor> swiftarrow, i just emerged it (gentoo, using the layman overlay), can even add it to the panel...but what next?
[15:34] <flaco> Hi, this happen when I try to compile a program (not just one).. http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/3/2/8/f_compim_a732c73.png  any ideas???
[15:34] <archman> KevDog: ok, made myself a bash script for auto-switching to monitor mode and vice versa ;)
[15:34] <swiftarrow> vonor, I dont use gentoo.  but after adding it to the panel, it worked automatically for me.
[15:34] <archman> works like a charm!
[15:34] <Vonor> swiftarrow, it's empty and even throws errors at me some times...well, it asks if i want to reload it, not giving any useful error message
[15:35] <lyhana8> I try to use this script http://pastebin.com/f2df1c281 to install msfont+tahoma but i got the following error :
[15:35] <lyhana8> [: 35: ==: unexpected operator
[15:35] <swiftarrow> vonor, I use ubuntu, so installed from the debs.  I'm actually here asking for help.  I'm a newbie
[15:35] <lyhana8> does anyone have an idea ?
[15:35] <hblount> hi. i am trying to access files from my vista desktop to this ubuntu laptop. i see the desktop in the network, but when i click it, there's nothing there. i've enabled sharing on vista. can anyone help?
[15:36] <Vonor> swiftarrow, i see
[15:37] <swiftarrow> my emergency: my keyboard and trackpad have stopped working on my laptop.  I need it desperately tomorrow at college.  it works fine in another OS, but doesn't work in xubuntu.  Worked fine in xubuntu too, until a few hours ago.  Stopped working after normal reboot.  Help please...
[15:38] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, try    sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all
[15:38] <msk> hi...i have a Debian DVD...can install packages from this DVD into my Ubuntu 8.04?
[15:38] <swiftarrow> @exodus.  The keyboard doesn't work...
[15:39] <swiftarrow> is there any other way to put in commands?
[15:39] <swiftarrow> is there a way to boot to command line?
[15:39] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, can access the virtual consoles by pressing Ctrl+Alt+f[1]-f[6] keys?
[15:39] <fearful> msk: Yes you can, add the sources of the CD in the synaptic sources
[15:39] <swiftarrow> no.  nothing works, not even the fn-brightness or capslock
[15:39] <Vonor> swiftarrow, boot the live cd, mount your hard disk, do "chroot /path/where/disk/mounted/" and then apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all
[15:39] <archman> KevDog you here?
[15:40] <exodus_ms> Vonor, ty
[15:40] <msk> thanx fearful
[15:40] <Vonor> swiftarrow, or if you can, login via ssh to your box
[15:40] <fearful> msk: System -> Adminstration -> Software sources. Than in the Third Party column theres an option of CDRom click that
[15:40] <swiftarrow> oookkk.. lemme try the ssh.
[15:41] <warddr> hello, I am trying to fix the sound of my P5QL motherboard, idea's?
[15:41] <swiftarrow> umm... exodus.  Can you walk me through this?  I have absolutly no idea...  it's booting now
[15:41] <jimcooncat> neat livecd trick Vonor. I'll remember that
[15:42]  * criacuervo hola
[15:42]  * criacuervo hello
[15:42] <swiftarrow> exodus: is there a way to boot into command line?  the keyboard works in grub
[15:42] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, did you say that connecting a external keyboard works?
[15:42] <swiftarrow> external mouse works. but I dont have an external kbd :(
[15:42]  * criacuervo yes change your run level
[15:43] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, do you have a live cd
[15:43] <Wotanskrieger> hi everyone! I have a radio/online program and it was recorded every Sunday 'because I do podcast of it. The server was a Shoutcast (winamp) server and I was used to save all .m3u online playlist easily. The radio changed the music server to a server with .pls online playlist and Tunapie/ Streamripper don't save this format. Does anyone here know a software to record this playlist?
[15:43]  * criacuervo from 5 to 3
[15:43] <hblount> hi. i am trying to access files from my vista desktop to this ubuntu laptop. i see the desktop in the network, but when i click it, there's nothing there. i've enabled sharing on vista. can anyone help?
[15:43] <swiftarrow> I have live cd, but only of a different distro
[15:43] <Mark76> What's the program that asks you if you want to install restricted drivers called?
[15:43] <swiftarrow> pupply linux
[15:43]  * criacuervo ok . i got it
[15:43] <xoox> Does anyone have emacs tramp working?
[15:43] <exodus_ms> yswiftarrow, ou should have a recovery mode option when you start up your machine.
[15:44] <_VIM_> criacuervo: please stop talking with /me command
[15:44] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, you should have a recovery mode option when you start up your machine.
[15:44] <chuckc> cdavis: from a while back about raid 5, well one drive could be bad, but i have run smartctl on all of them and all passed
[15:44] <Vonor> swiftarrow, does ssh start automatically on your laptop and does it connect to your network too? if so, try the ssh way before using the livecd trick
[15:44] <warddr> Is there anyone around with a p5ql motherboard?
[15:45] <S[e]C> ASD
[15:46] <swiftarrow> exodus, I've tried the recovery mode, but it boots to the blue "what do you want to do" screen, and the kbd is again, unresponsive.  I'm not too sure about SSH.  Is there a way to boot just to the command line? perhaps that would let the kbd work and we could enter commands directly.
[15:46] <Mark76> I think I've installed the Nvidia driver for my graphics card, but the splash screen doesn's show on boot
[15:46] <McScruff> lo all, how can i get my ubuntu box back to the original install state ,eg remove all apps and their configs
[15:46] <swiftarrow> exodus, i'm looking at grub.  Should I just do normal boot?
[15:47] <archman> KevDog you here?
[15:47] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, You can try that, I don;t think it will work since it will boot into your login screen. you can try and see if you can change the session there, maybe failsafe
[15:47] <fearful> McScruff: The easiest way would be re-installing. Its quicker anyway.
[15:48] <McScruff> fearful, there was a command, the only reason i dont want to reinstall is because im too lazy to backup properly
[15:48] <exodus_ms> !reinstall
[15:48] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms, it auto logs in
[15:48] <swiftarrow> ok here goes for booting
[15:49] <fearful> MsScruff: What version are you running?
[15:49] <McScruff> fearful, latest stable
[15:49] <McScruff> 8.10
[15:49] <McScruff> :P
[15:50] <n8tuser> McScruff-> debootstrap install to a dir and you'll get a fresh bare os without much tools
[15:50] <quibbler> warddr: i have a p5b but i bought a p5ql for one of my kids
[15:50] <ubuntu_> >>>> Someone help me: I am using live CD + gparted to extend ubuntus partition but I am stuck
[15:50] <n8tuser> McScruff-> debootstrap should be like 3-5 min install dependent on your isp access speed
[15:50] <fwaokda> While trying to open a file in the text editor I see two types of my files "example.cpp" & "example.cpp~"  I'm guessing the latter is a temporary file. How do I get it so that I am only seeing the actual file to remove the clutter?
[15:51] <warddr> quibbler, and do you know how to enable the sound?
[15:51] <McScruff> n8tuser, thanks :)
[15:51] <n8tuser> fwaokda-> you'll never see the clutter unless you list it?
[15:51] <fearful> MsScruff: Give me one sec
[15:51] <`Alt`> hi
[15:51] <exodus_ms> fwaokda, what text editor are you using
[15:52] <`Alt`> how to restark in konsole graphick mode(kde)
[15:52]  * `Alt` how to restark in konsole graphick mode(kde)
[15:52] <fwaokda> exodus_ms, whichever one gets brought up with i click on the "text editor" in the accessories menu
[15:53] <quibbler> warddr: i don't know what she did other than set everything to default (pulse) i think and she has no problems
[15:53] <fearful> MsScruff: I'm not familiar with that command, but here's a nice walk through that will help you back up your things with one command and show you how to restore: http://www.zimbio.com/the+ubuntu+guy/articles/47/Backup+Ubuntu+Easy+Way+Command+Line
[15:53] <exodus_ms> fwaokda, I think that might be 'gedit' are you using the 'preview pane' in gedit to select the files you want to edit
[15:53] <`Alt`> привет
[15:53] <quibbler> !ru
[15:53] <ubuntu_> >>>> Someone help me: I am using live CD + gparted to extend ubuntus partition but I am stuck
[15:53] <fwaokda> exodus_ms, umm idk i'm just going to "file>open"
[15:54] <warddr> quibbler, strange..
[15:54] <fearful> ubuntu_: Where are you stuck?
[15:54] <claybustr> !pam
[15:54] <quibbler> warddr: she does have 8.04 not 8.10
[15:54] <alessandro_> ciao
[15:54] <ubuntu_> OK I have ubuntu on a a partition, free space before that partition (unallocated)
[15:54] <exodus_ms> fwaokda, when you select file>open hit crtl+h when the window witht your files appears
[15:54] <alessandro_> a belli
[15:54] <davidroderick> I have got vsftp.  enabled local read. disabled user write.  Where do I put the file which I wish to serve?
[15:54] <alessandro_> che se dice qui?
[15:54] <warddr> quibbler, and probably x32
[15:54] <fearful> !spanish
[15:55] <quibbler> warddr: yes
[15:55] <ubuntu_> There is a key icon next to /dev/sda4 (collective partition for uibuntu) and /dev/sda6. I need to extend /dev/sda5 (ext3) make sense?
[15:55] <warddr> then i'll do it without any sound, I don't want to switch to x32
[15:55] <fwaokda> exodus_ms, doesn't work but i found if i use the side panel they dont show so i'll just do that thanks for the help! :)
[15:56] <quibbler> warddr: i warned her about 64 bits...i've seen a lot of people complaining
[15:56] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms, it's booted and logged in, but only external mouse is working.
[15:56] <swiftarrow> it's also on the network
[15:56] <exodus_ms> fwaokda, you have to click inside that window to make it active then hit ctrl+h, also the 'side pane' has an icon there to switch from show hidden or do not show hidden files
[15:56] <qcjn> hi, i'm about to read a tutorial about vba. But before starting that..Does open office calc or gnumeric has vba ? Or is there a more usefull way to manipulate data, that would be "multiplateform" ?
[15:56] <warddr> quibbler, i am prime searching, my 4 cores always 100%, x32 is not string enough$
[15:56] <nkei0> what's the command to see my kernel headers?
[15:57] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, did you switch session at the login?
[15:57] <Scunizi> qcjn: OOo has its own version of basic for scripting.. vba will not work
[15:57] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms, it was an automatic login.  I didn't have a chance.
[15:57] <oCean_> nkei0: your kernel version you mean? "uname -r"
[15:58] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, you rebooted your laptop and it started up straight to your desktop
[15:58] <nkei0> oCean_: Thanks.
[15:58] <quibbler> warddr: she doesn't do anything heavy..not needed
[15:58] <McScruff> fearful, i found it :)
[15:58] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms, affirmative.  I set it to autologin eons ago.
[15:58] <warddr> thanks anyway
[15:58] <qcjn> Scunizi: My first use is for excel at work ? but is there another way that i could manipulate data without learning 2 things ?
[16:00] <bonhoffer> burn iso image in ubuntu (via gnome possible/easy?)
[16:01] <_VIM_> bonhoffer: k3b or brassero should work for that
[16:01] <bonhoffer> thanks
[16:01] <_VIM_> np
[16:02] <quibbler> warddr: sorry i can't help maybe try in the forums: http://www.google.nl/search?q=asus+p5ql+site%3A+ubuntuforums.org&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[16:02] <Wotanskrieger> hi everyone! I have a radio/online program and it was recorded every Sunday 'because I do podcast of it. The server was a Shoutcast (winamp) server and I was used to save all .m3u online playlist easily. The radio changed the music server to a server with .pls online playlist and Tunapie/ Streamripper don't save this format. Does anyone here know a software to record this playlist?
[16:02] <bonhoffer> Brasero . ..
[16:02] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, Restart your computer, Right after you select Ubuntu and hit enter, press the "esc" key rapidly
[16:02] <davidroderick> I have got vsftp.  enabled local read. disabled user write.  Where do I put the file which I wish to serve?
[16:03] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms ok here goes!!!
[16:03] <MarkJones> Hello I was wondering if Ubuntu 8.10 has gotten better since its first release as far as speed and reliablility goes with all the updates and such? Also wondering if there are any ISOs anywhere that have 8.10 with all updates integrated?
[16:03] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, basically hit the 'esc' key before ubuntu actually loads, from there select recovery mode
[16:03] <n8tuser> Wotanskrieger-> i have been trying to figure out (not really trying hard) to figure out how to record streaming.. you tried vlc?
[16:03] <bonhoffer> _VIM_, wait i am trying to create an iso -- doesn't seem brasero can do that . . .
[16:03] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms Should I first disable automatic login?
[16:03] <maxagaz> is there a command to stop the fan of my laptop computer ?
[16:03] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, yes, do that as well
[16:03] <maxagaz> or to control its activity
[16:03] <_VIM_> bonhoffer: try k3b then
[16:03] <n8tuser> MarkJones-> i dont think they
[16:03] <bonhoffer> doing it now . . .
[16:03] <swiftarrow> ok...
[16:04] <_VIM_> !iso | bonhoffer
[16:04] <n8tuser> MarkJones-> i dont think they'd put all the updates in one package, you have to download them
[16:04] <Wotanskrieger> n8tuser, not really. I think the most of media player use streamripper as streaming recorder :S
[16:04] <MarkJones> Ok I guess Ill have to go get one of thoses apps and integrate them myself.Thats cool.
[16:04] <MarkJones> thanks
[16:05] <n8tuser> Wotanskrieger-> can you try vlc and let us know if that works
[16:05] <Wotanskrieger> n8tuser, I'll try it now (after the lunch :) )
[16:06] <qcjn> ok, then, another thing, ive installed the kde desktop, since then, most of the time, when i try to close the computer, and i'm into gnome, it goes into a black screen, then i have to push the poer button to close the computer. Is there a way to fix this ? or maybe uninstall kde-desktop ! But then i would lose tha application that are related to KDE, right ?
[16:06] <ubuntu_> >>>> Someone help me: I am using live CD + gparted to extend ubuntus partition but I am stuck
[16:06] <catherine> Hi there
[16:07] <n8tuser> hi
[16:07] <n8tuser> ubuntu_-> clarify the issues you're having
[16:07] <catherine> I have a memory/swap probleme upon an ubuntu 8.04 AMD64 fresh install, does anyone can help ?
[16:08] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms I did that, and it beeped like mad during boot up, and now it has a faint beep and a blank screen.  Now it's got the login screen, and a faint beeping sound.  The keyboard is working.  Should I login?
[16:08] <c0p3rn1c> how do you force flash to use pulseaudio?
[16:09] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms the faint beeping is just a low-volume, continuous system beep,
[16:09] <catherine> What happens is nothing is responding anymore once I've previewed some screensavers
[16:09] <ubuntu_> I can't extend ext3, I have unallocated space in front of the ubuntu partition. There is a key icon next to /dev/sda4 (ubuntu collective partition) and one next to linux-swap partition under that. Can extend ext3- but no space to do so. Can't extend /dev/sda4 as option is greyed out. Underestand?
[16:09] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, try to log into failsafe mode. there should be an option there for 'session' clcik on it and change the session to failsafe then login
[16:09] <ubuntu_> http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/635/14796923qb7.png
[16:09] <catherine> even Ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt F1 F2 F... doesn't do anything
[16:10] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, by the way, you don;t have akey stuck down somewhere do you
[16:10] <catherine> but the mouse arrow moves though
[16:10] <SherlawkDragon> Ok, I have a bizarre Apache problem for you: I have PHPMyAdmin in a folder in the server's directory.  I can access the main page of the site fine, but when I go into the PHPMyAdmin directory, it gives me a 403 error: "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /phpmyadmin/ on this server."  I've had this error before, it was that I needed to make the directory publicly viewable, but this time, I've made it completely public, and i
[16:10] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms : failsafe GNOME or failsafe terminal?  I dont have gnome on this machine, so I'm surprised to see that gnome option.  The beep went away when I pressed backspace, adn triggered another normal system beep.  i think it was just a soundcard memory hiccup.  so, gnome or terminal?  I dont have gnome afaik
[16:11] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, terminal and then type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all
[16:12] <jimcooncat> Anyone have a link to a web page I saw explaining repositories? It was really good, and described when you'd want to use security, backports, medibuntu, etc.
[16:12] <jimcooncat> I thought it was by Jeff Waugh, but I can't find it now
[16:13] <yookter> does anyone know a gtk frontend to festival/festvox/espeak?
[16:13] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms can you please explain before I do that?  afaik xserver handles graphics... how would it handle my keyboard?  and I dont understand the -input-all option... is that an option or part of the package name?  Thanks so much...
[16:13] <SherlawkDragon> Ok, I have a bizarre Apache problem for you: I have PHPMyAdmin in a folder in the server's directory.  I can access the main page of the site fine, but when I go into the PHPMyAdmin directory, it gives me a 403 error: "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /phpmyadmin/ on this server."  I've had this error before, it was that I needed to make the directory publicly viewable, but this time, I've made it completely public, and i
[16:14] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, it handles input as well
[16:14] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, mouse keyboard
[16:14] <imdeveloper> uni4dfx
[16:14] <imdeveloper> u there
[16:14] <imdeveloper> ?
[16:14] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms ok here goes.
[16:15] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms it says that the package is already the newest version.  It exited without doing anything
[16:17] <sachael> can anyone recommend me one of the scheme implementations?
[16:17] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms it says that the package is already the newest version.  It exited without doing anything
[16:17] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, ok
[16:18] <Vonor> anyone currently using gnome-globalmenu
[16:18] <Vonor> ?
[16:18] <imdeveloper> i need help for drivers
[16:18] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms, sorry for repeating it.  Should I try to force apt-get to re-download and install?  if so, how?
[16:18] <lordnoid> hi I just installed Windows XP after ubuntu and added it to grub etc. but it won't boot. It doesnt give an error message either, nothing happens when I select windows xp in grub menu
[16:18] <webpigeon> Do you know how i can resolve a 'clipping' like noise on a laptop's audio (intel HD Audio) (happens at all volumes :( )
[16:19] <Vonor> lordnoid, did you add "chainloader +1" to the winxp entry?
[16:19] <lordnoid> Vonor, yes
[16:19] <c0p3rn1c> webpigeon: you mean like some weard kind of static noise ?
[16:19] <imdeveloper> hellp
[16:19] <swiftarrow> @webpigeon, I had that one.  I think it was resolved by lowering the MIC volume
[16:19] <lordnoid> windows xp seemed to put in into an extended partition.. don't know wy :P
[16:19] <Vonor> no idea about windows, sorry
[16:20] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, na, that wouldn't be necessary. You said this starting happening recently, after you shut down your laptop. Did you do any upgrades or install anything beforehand
[16:20] <imdeveloper> i can help for windows
[16:20] <imdeveloper> i need help about ubuntu drivers
[16:20] <lordnoid> mwa I'll reinstall on a normal ntfs primary.. thanks anyway Vonor
[16:20] <SherlawkDragon> Ok, I have a bizarre Apache problem for you: I have PHPMyAdmin in a folder in the server's directory.  I can access the main page of the site fine, but when I go into the PHPMyAdmin directory, it gives me a 403 error: "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /phpmyadmin/ on this server."  I've had this error before, it was that I needed to make the directory publicly viewable, but this time, I've made it completely public, and i
[16:20] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms before I shut down, I had installed screenlets.  would that have done this?
[16:20] <c0p3rn1c> imdeveloper: be more specific
[16:21] <webpigeon> c0p3rn1c: sort of
[16:21] <imdeveloper> i need graphic drivers
[16:21] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, I don't know
[16:21] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms I guess it's worth a try.  How do I tell it to uninstall screenlets?
[16:21] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, how did you install it, with apt or synaptic
[16:21] <c0p3rn1c> webpigeon: so your sound doesnt work and instead you have a weird kind of static?
[16:22] <imdeveloper> nvidia,
[16:22] <webpigeon> c0p3rn1c, No we can hear the sound, but it's distorted
[16:22] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms I used synaptic
[16:22] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, i just updated to 8.10 and i am very happy to see Direct Rendering working with fglrx BUT all 3D applications are black screen/window. i tried to set DRI Mode 0666 but no effect.
[16:23] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms as I remember, it had two dependencies, one lib and one something else.
[16:23] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:23] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, i just updated to 8.10 and i am very happy to see Direct Rendering working with fglrx BUT all 3D applications are black screen/window. i tried to set DRI Mode 0666 but no effect.
[16:23] <c0p3rn1c> webpigeon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[16:23] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, you can try sudo aptitude remove
[16:23] <mattbd> Hi, I'm using DOSBox on Ubuntu Hardy and I'm trying to play UFO Enemy Unknown on it. It works fine until I have to go on a mission then it hangs. Any suggestions to make it work?
[16:24] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, and then sudo aptitude purge
[16:24] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms ok it's working
[16:24] <shavin> I wish to install a theme from gnomelooks.org I can find any instructions on how to install these.
[16:24] <c0p3rn1c> webpigeon: just upgrading alsa could also help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post6589810
[16:25] <mattbd> shavin: Open Appearances under System>Preferences
[16:25] <jxander> why can't canonical make an ubuntu distro with either -0.4 or +0.96 to round up numbers? :P... i see jaunty comes with 9.04... what's up with that? :))... i don't quite get it... does it look more stable if it has .04?
[16:25] <exodus_ms> shavin, download the theme, open system>preferences>appearance>install
[16:26] <mattbd> shavin: Then click on Install and select the theme package. You should then be able to select it in Appearances
[16:26] <guantanamo> jxander: the 0.4 is for april
[16:26] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, i just updated to 8.10 and i am very happy to see Direct Rendering working with fglrx BUT all 3D applications are black screen/window. i tried to set DRI Mode 0666 but no effect.
[16:26] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms, ok, did that.  It actually removed a lot more files than it installed, all python stuff.  purge doesnt seem to have done anything spectacular.  I'm still interested in re-installing the input stuff that you first mentioned, just to be on the safe side.  Unless you think that's harmful, could you tell me how?
[16:26] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, what command did you use to for removing screenlets?
[16:27] <HalphaZ> salve a tutti
[16:27] <cridenour> Hey all I just built a new system using a EX58-UD3R mobo (i7) and the live CD recognized the NIC but could never get an IP, the fresh install doesn't even recognize the controller under lspci -vv   what can I do?
[16:27] <HalphaZ> son con jaunty e kde 4.2
[16:27] <swiftarrow> sudo aptitude remove screenlets
[16:27] <jxander> guantanamo: oooo...
[16:27] <geirha> jxander: 200(9)/(04)
[16:27] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:27] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms, I used sudo aptitude remove screenlets
[16:27] <jxander> geirha: got it :))
[16:27] <HalphaZ> ops, sorry .-)
[16:27] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, yeah, you can try     sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all     again
[16:27] <SupernalTriad> hello, need a ban plz
[16:28] <SupernalTriad> so i never stoop to ubuntu level
[16:28] <sifo> hello
[16:28] <blizzle> guantanamo, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras .. see if that helps.
[16:28] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:28] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:28] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:28] <FloodBot1> SupernalTriad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:28] <guantanamo> blizzle: i aready did that
[16:28] <guantanamo> SupernalTriad: why?
[16:28] <_VIM_> ah geeze are the kids up already? time for ignore, cya SupernalTriad
[16:28] <blizzle> guantanamo, No need to feed the trolls :)
[16:28] <SupernalTriad> why does it suck?  because its dumbed down
[16:29] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms it still says it's the newest version.  How do I force a re-download + re-install?  perhaps some small file got corrupted in some freak hdd thing? idunno
[16:29] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:29] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:29] <FloodBot1> SupernalTriad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, i just updated to 8.10 and i am very happy to see Direct Rendering working with fglrx BUT all 3D applications are black screen/window. i tried to set DRI Mode 0666 but no effect. glxgears gives me 1100 to 1800 FPS but only a black window.
[16:29] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:29] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:29] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:29] <FloodBot1> SupernalTriad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <sever> hi all
[16:30] <RussM> swiftarrow, can you dpkg-reconfigure it?
[16:30] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:30] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:30] <SupernalTriad> ubuntu sucks dick
[16:30] <FloodBot1> SupernalTriad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:30] <RealKillaz> anyone can give me tips and hints on how to install a broadband usb modem on my laptop
[16:30] <swiftarrow> RussM sorry, newbie here.  english? :D
[16:30] <fearful> SupernalTriad: Your just to stupid to use it
[16:30] <_VIM_> !ops | SupernalTriad
[16:30] <SupernalTriad> too stupid
[16:30] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Do you know what model it is?
[16:30] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, I don't know. a re-download + re-install shouldn't be necessary. I'm not sure what to do at this point, I would have to research it a bit
[16:31] <sachael> why isn't his ban working? :O
[16:31] <sachael> oh, nvm
[16:31] <RussM> swiftarrow, Try running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-all
[16:31] <admind> zxc
[16:31] <RussM> swiftarrow, Sorry, want to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-all"
[16:31] <RealKillaz> mattbd: nope. How can I check that?
[16:31] <swiftarrow> exodus_ms OK, thank you very much for your help so far... you're the man
[16:31] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, I'm going to have a look around and see what I can come up with. If I find something I will let you know. Continue to ask here in the channel, someone will help. I aplogize for not being able to help more
[16:32] <swiftarrow> RussM Thanks man, i'm about to try that,  Thanks
[16:32] <Pedrolito> very often pulse audio stops working, and so far the only fix that works is to reboot the computer. Is there another way to fix it?
[16:32] <mattbd> RealKillaz: If you have the documentation to hand, you might want to get that, otherwise you can find out other ways
[16:33] <RealKillaz> mattbd: no documentation. So I need to find it other ways.
[16:33] <jimcooncat> What to use? apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx, apt-proxy? Want the most stable, supported method.
[16:33] <n8tuser> Pedrolito -> dont if  /etc/init.d/dbus restart will reset it without rebooting
[16:34] <swiftarrow> RussM running that gives error: conflicting actions of control and remove
[16:34] <n8tuser> Pedrolito -> dont know if  /etc/init.d/dbus restart will reset it without rebooting
[16:34] <mattbd> RealKillaz: OK, try the link at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/modems-adsl-usb.html which should help you
[16:34] <sever> can you upgrade from 5.10
[16:34] <Pedrolito> n8tuser, ok let me try
[16:34] <Safe> How exactly am I supposed to config resolv.conf? I want to put in my DNS IP. Just write the IP?
[16:34] <RussM> swiftarrow, Sorry, exodus_ms seems to have taken you down about as far as I could go already.
[16:34] <imdeveloper> my mother board is Biostar. Chipset is Nvidia, i need drivers for  graphic card
[16:35] <n8tuser> Safe -> nameserver 172.16.2.1  something like this
[16:35] <jimcooncat> sever, that's a lot of upgrading. Better off backing up /home and do a fresh install
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> imdeveloper: run lspci | grep -i vga
[16:35] <sever> thanks
[16:35] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I'm talking about 3G modems
[16:36] <geirha> sever: Upgrading is only supported for supported version. 5.10's support ended april 2007 ...
[16:36] <mattbd> Safe: Try this link - https://www.opendns.com/homenetwork/start/device/ubuntu - this is for OpenDNS but explains the process pretty well
[16:36] <Safe> Oh alright. Could someone with static IP paste their /etc/network/interfaces? You can remove the IP, I just want to see exactly how it should look.
[16:36] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Are you running Ubuntu Intrepid?
[16:36] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:36] <imdeveloper>  ActionParsnip: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7050/nForce 610i (rev a2)
[16:36] <RealKillaz> mattbd: yup
[16:36] <jeffuntu> Hi everyone!
[16:36] <sever> ok thank you
[16:37] <kimkvir> I have problems with transcoding programs with Mythbuntu 8.04, Can anybody help me?
[16:37] <swiftarrow> Hello anyone know how to force a re-installation of a package from the recovery command line?  student here has college in the morning, and needs a working laptop desparately... thanks
[16:37] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Which provider is it from? And which country? I've set up Vodafone in the UK before and that was easy enough
[16:37] <swiftarrow> RussM Ok thanks man
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> imdeveloper: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177    if you are running intrepid
[16:38] <RealKillaz> mattbd: hehehe I'm in a country that isn't so important to put on the list ;-)
[16:38] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I'm from Curacao.
[16:38] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:38] <RealKillaz> So its from a provider called UTS Curacao
[16:39] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:39] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:39] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:39] <guantanamo> how do you enable wma9 in ubuntu? i already installed w64codecs, but it doesnt work
[16:39] <FloodBot1> guantanamo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:39] <jeffuntu> I've been fighting for several days to install a 8.04 32bits on a intel core duo. (the 64bits works fine but can't have the sis 671 video driver, nor skype). Anyone has a clue about why the PC reboots directly after loading the initrd.gz (booting from a usb key)?
[16:39] <Cobra_Fast> -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063909
[16:39] <Cobra_Fast> -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063909
[16:39] <quibbler> !nl | RealKillaz
[16:39] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Ah, OK. Well, if Network Manager 0.7 doesn't support your country's providers maybe Vodafone Mobile Connect will work. I'll get the link
[16:40] <RealKillaz> mattbd: when I insert the modem in the usb stick I don't see anything happening. How did you get the network-manager to work with it?
[16:40] <RealKillaz> quibbler: I will pass by and drink some coffee there.
[16:40] <RealKillaz> quibbler: ;-)
[16:40] <quibbler> RealKillaz: ;-)
[16:40] <Safe> I still don't get what "broadcast" in /etc/network/interfaces mean? :)
[16:41] <mattbd> RealKillaz: I used Vodafone's drivers, which will work with many other providers, and are worth a try if Network Manager doesn't work
[16:41] <bladig> hi i just installed windows and i can't boot anymore on linux ; how can i set grub so i can choose on which OS i'd like to boot at the start ?
[16:41] <mattbd> Link is https://forge.betavine.net/frs/?group_id=12&release_id=200
[16:41] <n8tuser> Safe -> man interfaces
[16:41] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, i just updated to 8.10 and i am very happy to see Direct Rendering working with fglrx BUT all 3D applications are black screen/window. i tried to set DRI Mode 0666 but no effect. glxgears gives me 1100 to 1800 FPS but only a black window. -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063909
[16:41] <swiftarrow> RussM, exodus_ms re-installation is simple.  Just found it online: sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg-input-all
[16:41] <Safe> n8tuser, I have read it, it still isn't really clear.
[16:41] <swiftarrow> anybody, how do I restart from the command line?
[16:41] <RealKillaz> mattbd: In windows the usb stick will install GlobetrotterConnect ...
[16:41] <n8tuser> Safe -> the nic has to know what is the broadcast address
[16:42] <ParhelicTriangle> swiftarrow: sudo reboot now
[16:42] <lumis> swiftarror: sudo reboot
[16:42] <jeffuntu> swiftarrow: type reboot
[16:42] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Try the link at https://forge.betavine.net/frs/?group_id=12&release_id=200
[16:42] <Safe> So, it's the same as my static IP?
[16:42] <swiftarrow> ok thanks everyone.
[16:42] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, i just updated to 8.10 and i am very happy to see Direct Rendering working with fglrx BUT all 3D applications are black screen/window. i tried to set DRI Mode 0666 but no effect. glxgears gives me 1100 to 1800 FPS but only a black window. -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063909 PLEASE HELP!!!
[16:42] <jeffuntu> oh yes _sudo_
[16:42] <RealKillaz> mattbd: cool I'll check it out
[16:42] <Cobra_Fast> help me please!!
[16:42] <n8tuser> Safe -> nope, do you mind doing a tutorial on networking?
[16:43] <Safe> Not at all, have a link or something?
[16:43] <n8tuser> Safe -> not off hand, let me google one for you
[16:43] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Vodafone's drivers will often work with other providers as well. I don't know exactly which driver you need to use as I used it in Gutsy and haven't used it since, but I think you want this one - https://forge.betavine.net/frs/download.php/269/vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux-2.0.beta3-ALL-i386-installer.run
[16:43] <Safe> Is it even necessary?
[16:43] <silv3r_m00n> hi there is there any kde based web browser using gecko engine ?
[16:43] <Safe> .. to write it in I meant.
[16:43] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, i just updated to 8.10 and i am very happy to see Direct Rendering working with fglrx BUT all 3D applications are black screen/window. i tried to set DRI Mode 0666 but no effect. glxgears gives me 1100 to 1800 FPS but only a black window. -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063909 PLEASE HELP!!!
[16:43] <olleorama> having trouble configuring a make file
[16:43] <exodus_ms> !repeat > Cobra_Fast
[16:44] <olleorama> it says it can't find X inlcudes
[16:44] <olleorama> what to do?
[16:45] <n8tuser> Safe -> http://www.comptechdoc.org/independent/networking/guide/  perhaps chapter 4
[16:45] <Safe> n8tuser, thanks. I can't just leave it empty by any chance?
[16:45] <siofwolves> whats the save and quit command in vim?
[16:45] <n8tuser> Safe -> try it, and see how it goes
[16:45] <Safe> I don't have a router or anything, it's just static.
[16:45] <Ben_Cs> hello
[16:45] <swiftarrow> ParhelicTriangle I just rebooted, the splash screen came up, progress bar went all the way across, then screen went blank, and here I am, staring at a blank screen... backlit, but blank.. Any ideas?
[16:46] <ellar> siowolves: ":wq!" ?
[16:46] <zash> siofwolves: or "ZZ"
[16:46] <dA_ShArP> Hi people, my k3b says, no cd/dvd writer detected
[16:46] <dA_ShArP> how do I fix it
[16:46] <c0p3rn1c> most of my video players flicker using the nvidia 177.82 driver.  xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/115674/
[16:46] <Ben_Cs> i tried to install ubuntu 8.10 several times and it always fails on:  select and install software.  md5sum is OK and verifying disk contents is ok. please help!
[16:46] <RealKillaz> mattbd: Ok, but how did you manage to make the broadband thing to work in the networkmanager. Because I can remember when I restarted the network-manager with the usb stick in it. It has recognize it and start asking me question about provider etc
[16:46] <mattbd> siowolves: You can leave off the ! and just :wq
[16:46] <ParhelicTriangle> swiftarrow: strange, have you tried alternative boot methods through grub?
[16:46] <siofwolves> k, thanks
[16:46] <zash> siofwolves: if it wont work, try escape first
[16:47] <c0p3rn1c> how do I fix this?
[16:47] <RealKillaz> mattbd: but then I cancel it cause I couldnt find the provider/country in question
[16:47] <Safe> n8tuser, what is the network in there then? :D
[16:47] <siofwolves> right
[16:47] <Safe> I only know of my IP, Gateway and DNS.
[16:47] <swiftarrow> ParhelicTriangle, will try that, just hard rebooted... here goes...
[16:47] <Safe> Oh, and netmask.
[16:47] <RealKillaz> mattbd: so how can I manually start the broadband part of network-manager
[16:47] <ellar> zash: not CTRL+C?
[16:47] <n8tuser> Safe -> i can not explain to you all the minute details, you really have to do a network tutorial
[16:47] <mattbd> RealKillaz: I didn't use Network Manager for that at all because it didn't support 3G at the time, so you might need to stop that autostarting
[16:48] <swiftarrow> ParhelicTriangle, this time it's working... I have the login screen.
[16:48] <zash> ellar: no?
[16:48] <Safe> n8tuser, I just meant what I should write there. :D
[16:48] <Safe> But yeah, I guess you're right.
[16:48] <jeffuntu> I'ave tried to boot the 32bits netboot installer (boot.img) with several versions but it keeps rebooting suddendly the PC, as the 64 bits version doesn't. Problem: I need the 32 bits version
[16:49] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Does the device have a light of some kind that lights up when connected? And does the light flash when running Ubuntu?
[16:49] <jeffuntu> anyone has got any clue about that?
[16:49] <zash> ellar: in vim, escape changes to normal mode, and : then changes to command mode
[16:49] <RealKillaz> mattbd: yup it does flash slowly
[16:49] <n8tuser> Safe -> it is easy to tell you what to put, but your are questioning why..then you must do a tutorial to get a deeper understanding
[16:50] <mattbd> RealKillaz: A lot of 3G devices are already supported by the Linux kernel but they just need a configuration device. If it flashes that probably means the device is detected.
[16:50] <ellar> zash: yes, but CTRL+C does the same for me in vim!
[16:50] <shishio> hi anyone knows how to install files that are in .tar extension?
[16:50] <swiftarrow> RussM, exodus_ms. ParhelicTriangle  THANK YOU SO MUCH.  I'm back in xubuntu, and the keyboard's working fine.  I suspect it may have been something to do with the screenlets... but whatever.  Everythigns ok now.  Thank you so so much... have a great day!
[16:50] <c0p3rn1c> most of my video players flicker using the nvidia 177.82 driver.  xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/115674/ , I think that it's a overlay problem , how do I fix this ?
[16:50] <Safe> n8tuser, I'm sorry if I'm being ignorant. I just want my connection up and running, it's messing with me.
[16:50] <RealKillaz> so meaning I need to configure it and a way to start the broadband connection
[16:50] <exodus_ms> swiftarrow, cool
[16:50] <Safe> I'm dual-booting so it's a pain to troubleshoot.
[16:50] <RealKillaz> mattbd: so meaning I need to configure it and a way to start the broadband connection
[16:50] <nickrud> shishio, it really dpeneds what is in the tar archive
[16:50] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Exactly
[16:51] <zash> ellar: nice, didn't know that.
[16:51] <RealKillaz> mattbd: do you have any idea? what tools do you use?
[16:51] <n8tuser> Safe -> explain or elaborate on your network layout.. and please use the nick prefix so your messages will not be missed
[16:51] <shishio> nickrud, i got a .tar file  its AWN... i dunno how to install it... since its on my desktop now
[16:51] <mattbd> RealKillaz: You'll need to obtain the configuration settings so you can enter them manually.
[16:51] <kb1978> Has anyone had luck view imeem flash videos with 64bit ubuntu intrepid?
[16:51] <c0p3rn1c> kb1978: sure works fine
[16:52] <Safe> n8tuser, it's just a wired network, straight from my card to the wall, and I have a static IP.
[16:52] <mattbd> RealKillaz: If your provider doesn't actually give them in the documentation with it, I'd suggest you search their website.
[16:52] <ellar> zash: learn sth new every day, also didn't know about ESC^^
[16:52] <Safe> n8tuser, I guess that's it? :)
[16:52] <dA_ShArP> HI When I run K3B, its says, no CD/DVD writer detected, how do I fix this. Please help me.
[16:52] <c0p3rn1c> kb1978: imeem?
[16:52] <nickrud> shishio, ignore the tar archive, and run   sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator ; a properly built package is already available in the repositories
[16:52] <RealKillaz> mattbd: well the only information needed is the APN right?
[16:52] <kb1978> c0pp3rnlc, what flash player are you using?
[16:52] <Ben_Cs> anyone please?
[16:52] <shishio> nickrud : i was planning to install it on a PC without internet connection
[16:52] <mattbd> RealKillaz: I think so, I'll just check
[16:52] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I dont think I will find it on the internet
[16:52] <c0p3rn1c> kb1978: adobe
[16:52] <n8tuser> Safe whats behind that wall? your ISP ?
[16:53] <kb1978> c0p3rnlc, what version?
[16:53] <Safe> n8tuser, yeah. Nothing in between, no firewall, no DHCP router.
[16:53] <nickrud> shishio, there are still better ways of installing it instead of compiling. In fact, you'd have to download a bunch of packages just to create the correct compiling environment
[16:54] <c0p3rn1c> kb1978: sudo apt-get -y install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:54] <nickrud> shishio, do you have access to a linux based computer on the net?
[16:54] <n8tuser> Safe -> so your nic card is acting like a modem/dsl modem ?
[16:54] <RealKillaz> mattbd: that the problem I have here. The information source is very scarce.
[16:54] <kb1978> c0p3rnlc, thanks I will give that a try.
[16:54] <c0p3rn1c> kb1978: np
[16:54] <shishio> nickrud : yes
[16:54] <shishio> the ones im using right now
[16:54] <mattbd> RealKillaz: If you can't find the info online and the ISP doesn't have a forum you can go to, maybe ring their tech support to get the settings
[16:55] <Safe> Pretty much I guess? Hell, I'm not very familiar with networks. I live in sweden so I guess it can be quite different.
[16:55] <Safe> In windows I just insert my IP details and everything is go.
[16:55] <RealKillaz> mattbd: ok. How do you start the connection now?
[16:55] <nickrud> shishio, on the computer that's not on the net, run system->admin->synaptic package manager. mark avant-window-navigator for installation
[16:56] <shishio> nickrud : ok
[16:56] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Until you can get it configured it won't be much use.
[16:56] <nickrud> shishio, then, on the main menu, file->generate package download script. take that script to the other computer on the net, and run it. it will get all the packages you need
[16:56] <n8tuser> Safe -> without knowing how your connectivity to your ISP work (in your country) kind of difficult to give you good advice
[16:56] <kb1978> c0p3rn1c: Thanks, that was simple enough, and it looks like it worked!
[16:57] <david__________> #gnuplot
[16:57] <RealKillaz> mattbd: well I have here the configuration panel of broadband connection configuration open. I have entered the APN.
[16:57] <c0p3rn1c> kb1978: glad to be of help, pass it forward :)
[16:57] <Safe> n8tuser, I understand. Hell, when I first put in the details in the network-manager it worked, then it borked and I uninstalled it so I could install some other GUI network manager, but the IP wouldn't stay the same.
[16:57] <mattbd> RealKillaz: There's a forum post at http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=654 which I used to get mine working, and that's the kind of info you'll need to get from your ISP
[16:57] <RealKillaz> mattbd: and I left all the other setting to default
[16:57] <Safe> n8tuser, I just put in my IP address, gateway and DNS and everything was go.
[16:57] <nickrud> shishio, then copy the packages to the original machine, and run file->add downloaded packages
[16:57] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I want to just try it
[16:58] <shishio> nickrud: ok that helps
[16:58] <aHua> ask a hardware question...i wanna set up ubuntu on Card-Reader with MicroSD. have any Card-Reader support booting with USB-CDROM?
[16:58] <n8tuser> Safe then on the /etc/network/interfaces file  insert those
[16:58] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I have those info.
[16:58] <shishio> nickrud : ty
[16:58] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I only need the apn
[16:58] <nickrud> shishio, yw.
[16:58] <Safe> n8tuser, I have, but it still won't work. In ifconfig it looks like it should, but I get "no such host" when I try to ping something.
[16:58] <Sage-X> having trouble with resizing partitions I chose the install inside of windows  option and I want to extend my 30gb ubuntu partition it only shows up as one partition
[16:58] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Excellent. The APN you should be able to find
[16:59] <unixdawg> ok kssh does not work
[16:59] <unixdawg> the pkg needs to be removed
[16:59] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I have it here.
[16:59] <unixdawg> this bites
[16:59] <n8tuser> Safe -> here is a sample static assigned ip address on an interface ..   http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[16:59] <RealKillaz> mattbd: so I entered this in the broadband configuration panel of the network manager
[17:00] <Safe> n8tuser, yeah I know, I've actually just read that, and it's just the same.
[17:00] <mattbd> RealKillaz: I didn't realise Network Manager can be configured manually for 3G, I'm still on Hardy
[17:00] <n8tuser> Safe once you have that entered, try  sudo ifdown eth0;  sudo  ifup eth0
[17:00] <RealKillaz> mattbd: but now I need to fire up the connection
[17:00] <Safe> Really wierd, I'm sure it's just some small error I've missed, like spelling something wrong.
[17:00] <mattbd> RealKillaz: OK, go ahead
[17:00] <Safe> n8tuser, will have to restart into ubuntu to check again.
[17:00] <n8tuser> Safe perhaps post in pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file contents
[17:01] <RealKillaz> well yeah I have enterd the PAN manually. But I don;t see it as an option.
[17:01] <RealKillaz> I only see the wireless, wired and VPN options
[17:02] <giu> How to install cinelerra. Noob hellp please!
[17:02] <mattbd> OK, if Network Manager won't work, I would try the Vodafone Mobile driver
[17:02] <Safe> n8tuser, should "auto eth0" be at the top even if I have static?
[17:03] <giu> How to install cinelerra. Noob here, help please!
[17:03] <n8tuser> Safe -> yes thats okay, if you want to auto  enable at boot time
[17:03] <quibbler> giu: look here: http://www.linux.com/feature/119570
[17:03] <Safe> n8tuser, be right back then, will check.
[17:04] <n8tuser> Safe please read the link i provided
[17:04] <Safe> n8tuser, the tutorial?
[17:04] <giu> quibbler: Okj thanks.
[17:04] <mattbd> RealKillaz: You may want to check out this link at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7 for details of getting your modem working
[17:04] <n8tuser> Safe -> here is a sample static assigned ip address on an interface ..   http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[17:04] <Safe> n8tuser, oh the one with the example? Yeah, I have.
[17:04] <Safe> n8tuser, i actually copied from there.
[17:04] <ben__> question for you guys.  Virtualbox AMD64 is for windows x64 on intel?
[17:05] <n8tuser> Safe -> your questions is answered there
[17:05] <Safe> Alright, brb.
[17:05] <RealKillaz> mattbd: ok
[17:05] <shishio> Hi i was wondering... what programming language does ubuntu has to communicate with serial or DB9?
[17:05] <mattbd> RealKillaz: Is your modem made by Huawei?
[17:06] <RealKillaz> I think it is the old huawei model. The black stick
[17:06] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I'm not sure tough
[17:07] <mattbd> RealKillaz: If it is a Huawei that should work fine with the Vodafone driver
[17:07] <ben__> Virtualbox AMD64 is for windows x64 on intel?
[17:07] <RealKillaz> mattbd: I hope so. I'm not sure
[17:08] <mattbd> RealKillaz: OK, so you need the access point name (APN), username and password. Do you have those?
[17:08] <quibbler> giu: you can also read this: http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/README
[17:08] <etech> doesn't matter if amd or intel, amd64 is for 64 bit processors
[17:08] <c0p3rn1c> most of my video players are flickering using the nvidia 177.82 driver.  xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/115674/ , I think that it's a overlay problem , how do I fix this ?
[17:09] <c0p3rn1c> should I try another driver ?
[17:09] <giu> quibbler: Thanks!
[17:10] <c0p3rn1c> my config used to work fine with the beta drivers
[17:10] <etech> c0p3rn1c, 180.27 works very good
[17:10] <etech> c0p3rn1c, you will install it manually
[17:10] <c0p3rn1c> etech: ok thx
[17:10] <etech> c0p3rn1c, i meant you have to if you want :)
[17:11] <c0p3rn1c> etech: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 , thats it right?
[17:11] <etech> c0p3rn1c, i guess it will install the beta 180.11
[17:11] <sohail> hey guys my monitor is no longer working at native resolution
[17:11] <sohail> AL1916W
[17:11] <miamimike> Has anyone been able to get java 'SystemTray' to work in the ubuntu Notification Area?  Cannot google info on this...  Thanks
[17:11] <sohail> I don't know why...
[17:12] <c0p3rn1c> etech: nvidia-glx-180-dev is the beta version I presume
[17:12] <c0p3rn1c> but I will try the stable version first
[17:12] <max12333334> Does anybody know how to open the tv text in tvtime?
[17:12] <etech> c0p3rn1c, you can search in google ow to install manually nvidia packages
[17:13] <CnCwurm> hallo speak german or englisch
[17:13] <c0p3rn1c> etech: no you'd better advise people to use the forums, because else they will install the drivers from the nvidia site
[17:13] <etech> c0p3rn1c, and?
[17:13] <quibbler> CnCwurm: english otherwise /join #ubuntu-de
[17:13] <Scunizi> CnCwurm: english only in this channel please
[17:14] <c0p3rn1c> etech:  while they should use ubuntu packages, it will give problems with kernell upgrades
[17:14] <etech> you just said you want 180
[17:14] <ben__> Virtualbox AMD64 is for windows x64 on intel?
[17:15] <etech> ben__, yes
[17:15] <ads_> digital sound is working in mplayer, when i set the codec to ac3/spdif passthrough.. however i would like to enable digital sound as the default sound. how may i do this?
[17:15] <mattbd> ben_: Are you talking about using Windows as a host or guest?
[17:15] <c0p3rn1c> etech: yeah actually I have pretty much experience with installing nvidia drivers
[17:15] <c0p3rn1c> brb
[17:15] <regex-hater> Im doing a script as a school lab its purpose is to show information about installed modules. I'm supposed to use the lsmod command together with a this awk filter (awk ’{print $1} ’) to grap the names of the modules and then use them with modinfo. But I do not know how to apply the awk filter
[17:15] <ben__> etech, what about ubuntu server 8.10
[17:15] <etech> ben__, what?
[17:16] <mattbd> ben_: You're going to have to elaborate a bit, it's not clear what you're asking about
[17:17] <lup> ciao a tutti
[17:17] <ben__> would ubuntu 8.10 server for AMDx64 run on Virtualbox on Vista x64
[17:17] <Scunizi> etchy: is the .27 driver a noticeable improvement over the .22 driver?
[17:17] <quibbler> !it | lup
[17:17] <mattbd> ben_: Yes, it should do
[17:17] <etech> ben__, yes, the new virtualbox supports 64bit guests
[17:17] <Scunizi> etch: is the .27 driver a noticeable improvement over the .22 driver?
[17:17] <ben__> thanks
[17:18] <regex-hater> Im doing a script as a school lab its purpose is to show information about installed modules. I'm supposed to use the lsmod command together with a this awk filter (awk ’{print $1} ’) to grap the names of the modules and then use them with modinfo. But I do not know how to apply the awk filter. Can someone help me?
[17:18] <_VIM_> !repeat
[17:18] <Scunizi> etech: is the .27 driver a noticeable improvement over the .22 driver?  (sorry abt the multiple posts.. couldn't get the nick right)
[17:18] <shishio> hi anyone knows whats best for programming micro controllers using ubuntu?
[17:19] <regex-hater> !patience
[17:19] <etech> Scunizi, on kde yes, on gnome i didn't notice a difference
[17:19] <macvr> hi all, why is the flash plugin not working in firefox?  websites keep saying i'm having older version!
[17:19] <mattbd> regex-hater: You might try the #awk channel, that might be a better place to get an answer to that question
[17:20] <Bloc_> hallo
[17:20] <c0p3rn1c> etech: ok that fixed it, thx
[17:20] <_VIM_> !de > Bloc_
[17:20] <Bloc_> jemand der deutsch labert^^
[17:20] <RussM> Back on 7.10, I used to be able to "modprobe serio_raw", and suddenly I'd have a /dev/serio0 -- the modprobe still succeeds, but does anyone know where the device has gone? Perhaps point me to a link on the new /dev model?
[17:20] <Scunizi> etech: I noticed a huge difference between the .11 and the .22 driver w/my onboard 8200.. still slow with the occational video glitches like window drag issues etc.
[17:20] <regex-hater> mattbd, Oh I didnt now that one existed!
[17:21] <ads_> i have digital sound output in mplayer via spdif/ac3 passthrough. i would like digital sound to be the default sound so i may hear it with mp3 playback etc.. how can i enable digital sound as the default device?
[17:21] <etech> Scunizi, do you use kde4?
[17:21] <regex-hater> mattbd, I'm kind of new to this IRC thing
[17:21] <mattbd> regex-hater: I don't know if there's anyone there or it's any good, but it's worth a try as it's more likely to have a lot of awk users
[17:21] <Scunizi> etech: only in vm in vbox ..so no propiatory drivers.. gnome on the host
[17:21] <mattbd> regex-hater: I'm not much more than a noob with IRC myself!
[17:22] <macvr> hi all, why is the flash plugin not working in firefox?  websites keep saying i'm having older version!
[17:22] <mattbd> macvr: You can install the new flash from Adobe's website
[17:22] <fiftyone> hi, i have a question, I have a game (spore) in ISO and I want to play it on linux... (on windows) it has to be mounted virtually and then i can play it, how would you suggest that I go about playing on linux>?
[17:22] <etech> Scunizi, you can try it, but i didn't notice any difference
[17:22] <nectar> hey can anybody help me with that mistake
[17:22] <nectar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115689/
[17:22] <macvr> mattbd: oh.. its no longer in the repos?
[17:22] <regex-hater> mattbd, haha how do I change to that channel then?
[17:22] <mattbd> macvr: Just uninstall the existing version using sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree
[17:23] <mattbd> regex-hater: What client are you using?
[17:23] <etech> Scunizi, with nvidia it is always worth to try the newest... ;)
[17:23] <macvr> mattbd: why the purge?
[17:23] <regex-hater> mattbd, Xchat
[17:23] <mattbd> macvr: Purge to get rid of the old copy
[17:23] <Scunizi> mattbd: does the direct version fix flash video stalling due to the audio issue?
[17:23] <macvr> mattbd: oh... ok thanx
[17:24] <Scunizi> etech: yep :-)
[17:24] <mattbd> Scunizi: I've not had any issues since switching to flash 10
[17:24] <NativeAngels> hello
[17:24] <rhsanborn> I'm trying to setup a linux fileserver for home use. The box is 2ish GHz CPU w/ 512 MB of RAM. Ubuntu 8.10 should be fine on that, headless, right?
[17:24] <Scunizi> rhsanborn: more than enough
[17:24] <fiftyone> NativeAngels hello
[17:25] <rhsanborn> Scunizi, ty
[17:25] <NativeAngels> how do you create a hostname in ubuntu from the shell
[17:25] <mattbd> regex-hater:  I think you can just enter /join #awk
[17:25] <Scunizi> rhsanborn: you're installing the server edition right?  you can always add xfce4 to it for X forwarding via ssh later.
[17:26] <RussM> rhsanborn, I was using a P4 @ 2.4GHz / 768MB for a long time.
[17:26] <fiftyone> how is the best way to run a windows game in linux? i'm not a big gamer so i never realy had a need but i would like to play spore on linux. any gamer geeks here can give me some pointers?
[17:26] <nectar> is there anybody who can help me to fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/115689/
[17:26] <NativeAngels> im settin some unreal servers up but as theyll all have the same local ip can i run to servers off one shell
[17:26] <rhsanborn> Scunizi, I was just going to use desktop edition. Is there all that much different with server edition?
[17:26] <mattbd> fiftyone: I don't think Spore will work at all in Linux. It might work with a commercial product like Cedega or Crossover Games
[17:26] <Scunizi> fiftyone: if it's a windows game it will involve wine.. check out www.winehq.com
[17:27] <NativeAngels> or do i need to create different hosts
[17:27] <nectar> cedega giving a trial with spore if you interest
[17:27] <mattbd> fiftyone: I'd check on the Wine site to see if it's supported and also look online to see if Cedega or Crossover Games will do it
[17:27] <deany> NativeAngels,  you use different ports dont you
[17:27] <NativeAngels> yeah
[17:27] <NativeAngels> but as its usin the same local ip
[17:27] <horstle> hi
[17:28] <deany> well, as long as you specify the port it will connect fine
[17:28] <NativeAngels> or theyre usin the same local ip
[17:28] <Scunizi> rhsanborn: the server addition will allow you to choose on install what other services you want.. ie LAMP, FTP, Mail server etc.. it's also lighter weight.. to install ubuntu desktop you can achieve the same thing but it's more work..
[17:28] <NativeAngels> im linking them
[17:28] <NativeAngels> but its saying its in use
[17:28] <fiftyone> mattbd i have crossover office i will get crossover games now
[17:29] <Scunizi> rhsanborn: if you install the server you have a text environment.. something you should get use to with servers.. screen, irssi, mutt are all your friends there as well as elinks..
[17:29] <mattbd> fiftyone: Shame you didn't ask in October, I got a free copy as part of a giveaway then
[17:30] <Scunizi> rhsanborn: if you need a gui after installing server then add xfce4 with .. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.. this will give you a full desktop environ. on the server.. there is a way to just add the xfce4 gui and the other bits needed to make it work but I haven't done that.
[17:30] <mattbd> fiftyone: Try this link - http://linuxoutlaws.com/spore
[17:31] <alltax> Im having problem with swedish letters and XFIG. I got the letters working if I run xfig with the flag -international but then fig2dev complains about not finding sv_SE.UTF-8.ps. What should I do?
[17:31] <deany> NativeAngels,  well I dont know then.  as far as i knew, you set each UT game you are hosting to use a different port, and connecting to whatever ip:port would work..
[17:31] <rhsanborn> Scunizi, ty, I think I'll do that. I've used it enough to know that xfce is much lighter weight. I'm downloading the ISO right now.
[17:32] <mattbd> fiftyone: This seems to get it working in Wine but you have to compile it yourself, and crack the DRM on the game
[17:33] <sonofico> ciaoooo
[17:33] <fiftyone> mattbd thank man you are the man. Seems like alot of work might just be easier to logout ,and into windows. Really its that easy but i so hate to do it. lol
[17:33] <_trine> I'm really stuck and would not normally ask here but has anyone here got an HP officejet 7100 all-in-one printer scanner I need the CD that came with it as I have lost mine
[17:34] <Scunizi> rhsanborn: if you want to put up a web page and have it accessable to the world outside, check out dyndns.org.. your router should have a section for listing it and making the service work
[17:34] <rhsanborn> Scunizi
[17:34] <Cpudan80> _trine: just dl it from HP
[17:34] <rhsanborn> Scunizi, it's a verizon supplied router, no such luck :P
[17:34] <mattbd> fiftyone: Potentially you might be able to run it on a Windows install in Virtualbox but that'd be far too slow really
[17:34] <rhsanborn> Scunizi, I have an account with a webhost, they have more consistent bandwidth anyway
[17:34] <_trine> Cpudan80: it's not available there they just have the drivers
[17:35] <rhsanborn> Scunizi, it's mostly for sharing files among PC's in the house...
[17:35] <Cpudan80> _trine: ok ... what is on the CD that you need besides the driver?
[17:35] <zelrikriando> my pidgin just froze
[17:35] <zelrikriando> it s all grey
[17:35] <Larrxi> when i run "apt-get source wine" i get a old version of wine not the latest which i have when i check in synaptic
[17:35] <mattbd> fiftyone: Otherwise I think you'll have to just use Windows for playing Spore
[17:36] <Scunizi> rhsanborn: you might want to look at OBM.. it's in the repo's.. sort of a LAN collaboration tool.. like a wiki sort of.. with document management.
[17:36] <manumar> diossssssssssss
[17:36] <MoLoot> Spore looks pretty cool... :)
[17:36] <manumar> q pexa de gente
[17:36] <manumar> compadressssssssss
[17:36] <fiftyone> mattbd, yea i dont have a super machine here eather... hey, I was wondering if you could help me with something else related. I actually my wife is in love with this little popcap game called "Luxor3" i got it for windose and it actually works nicely in wine for about 30 seconds then the graphics go mad. Any idea if this is because of my graphics card or just a problem with the game/wine?
[17:36] <manumar> esto es una puta locuraaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:36] <manumar> jajajaja
[17:36] <FloodBot1> manumar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <manumar> wapisimo
[17:36] <fearful> !spanish manumar
[17:36] <mattbd> fiftyone: Most likely this is due to the configuration
[17:37] <fearful> !spanish
[17:37] <quibbler> !es
[17:37] <Scunizi> !es | manumar
[17:37] <afancy> Hi, In ubuntu, are there any Project management tools for recommendation? thanks!!
[17:37] <mattbd> fiftyone: Are you using the version of Wine in the Ubuntu repositories or have you added the Wine repository?
[17:37] <_trine> Cpudan80: PM
[17:37] <manumar> hola?
[17:38] <Scunizi> afancy: like MS Project?  sure.. it's called project management
[17:38] <Decepticon> i want to see a ls of a dir where all the dir/files are shown with absolute paths and no other info
[17:38] <fiftyone> mattbd yea? the colors go all wack, I was thinking that it was a graphics card problem because if I load firefox or something else it does the same graphics freakout for a second before it loads completely. I am not sure exactly how else to describe it but as a "freakout"
[17:38] <afancy> Scunizi: yes
[17:38] <Scunizi> afancy: check in Applications>Office
[17:38] <rhsanborn> Scunizi, no way man. The misses is a Project Manager by trade. I don't need her having access to a household gantt chart :P
[17:38] <mattbd> fiftyone: I use the most recent version, instructions for adding this are at http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[17:38] <afancy> Scunizi: but i cannot find it
[17:38] <Scunizi> rhsanborn: OBM doesn't do that.. :)
[17:38] <fiftyone> mattbd i have wine from the repos
[17:38] <Scunizi> afancy: what version of ubuntu?
[17:39] <afancy> Scunizi: 8.10
[17:39] <rhsanborn> Scunizi, collab and calendaring, etc, right/
[17:39] <afancy> Scunizi: i just checked, there is none
[17:39] <rhsanborn> ?
[17:39] <mattbd> fiftyone: OK, maybe try adding the Wine repository for Ubuntu and upgrade to the most recent version
[17:39] <Scunizi> afancy: maybe it's not installed by default or in a different menu.. if you can't find it go to System>Admin>Synaptic Pkg Manager and search for it. You'll be able to install from there.
[17:40] <mattbd> fiftyone: After that, all I can really suggest is playing with the configuration
[17:40] <Cube3D> (My english is not very good) Hi, I have "zoom" bluetooth, but woth 8.10 doesn't work, but I have another one, and this yes. But bluetooth is good, becose in windows works
[17:40] <Cube3D> why?
[17:40] <Cube3D> *with
[17:40] <timahvo1> !fonts
[17:40] <Xenos_> Oh, right. Default channel and all :-P
[17:40] <fiftyone> mattbd okk cool, did you get what I said about when i load firefox and other programs? because this is leading me to think that it is a graphics problem and not a wine problme
[17:41] <mattbd> fiftyone: Yes, I did see that
[17:41] <mattbd> fiftyone: Is it basically random colours for a second then it fixes itself?
[17:41] <MoTec> Decepticon: use find instead.    find /etc for example
[17:41] <Xenos_> I'm thinking I prefer Ubuntu now that I've tested it and OpenSUSE. But one thing I liked on OpenSUSE was that my windows partitions were under /Windows/ and as such easily accessible. A cursory search has not revealed their locations to me in Ubuntu as of yet :-p
[17:42] <fiftyone> mattbd yes, exactly random colors for a second then if fixes itself
[17:42] <evon> anyone here use OZOS?
[17:42] <fiftyone> mattbd exactly
[17:42] <NowName> Hi. I installed Suse 11.1 today (usually I'm running a 8.10 ubuntu) now I've got problems with grub
[17:42] <Scunizi> Xenos_: they may not be mounted
[17:42] <ScottG489> How do I cause my computer to write hibernation files to the hard disk instead of to the swap?
[17:42] <NowName> suse is on sdb1, ubuntu on sdb2
[17:42] <mattbd> Xenos_: Try using PySDM, that lets you set it up to mount certain partitions at startup
[17:42] <NowName> but only ubuntu-boot works
[17:42] <Scunizi> ScottG489: swap is the hd
[17:42] <torero> !ru
[17:42] <fearful> Scott: The hibernation files will be saved in the logs on your harddrive
[17:42] <fiftyone> Scottg489 you can make a swap file instead of a partition
[17:42] <ScottG489> Scunizi: Well to the drive partition
[17:43] <mattbd> fiftyone: Mine does that too occasionally but I don't worry too much about it
[17:43] <fiftyone> ah ok
[17:43] <Scunizi> ScottG489: swap has it's own partition
[17:43] <quibbler> afancy: : look here: http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Office/Project_Management.html
[17:43] <ScottG489> fiftyone: I had 4GB of RAM and 4 GB of swap. I think thats already a pretty outrageous amount of swap
[17:43] <fiftyone> so its a normal thing
[17:43] <fiftyone> scottG489 yea thats alot of swap
[17:43] <afancy> yes, i have found many
[17:44] <afancy> quibbler: which one is better
[17:44] <ScottG489> Scunizi: fiftyone: I made my system with 1.5 gigs of swap. But then when I got errors that I didnt have enough swap to hibernate I made more (2.5 for a total of 4GB) but I was still getting errors of not enough swap
[17:44] <psypoint1r> hi
[17:44] <mattbd> fiftyone: I can only really suggest if you want a certain game to work try using something other than the default Windows version for that game only - go for whatever Windows version it's mainly designed for, and try playing around with the settings.
[17:44] <psypoint1r> is it possible do upgrade an existing debian stable to an ubuntu server?
[17:44] <jtaji> ScottG489: it has to be a swap partition, there's no way around it in it's current implementation
[17:45] <ScottG489> Scunizi: fiftyone: so i tried typing "free" one time before i swapd and I had used about a gig between both my swap and RAM so I have no idea why there wouldnt be enough space
[17:45] <psypoint1r> (i've got debian on my server but the packages are too old for me)
[17:45] <fiftyone> Scottg489 i think that 1gb of swap is more than enough
[17:45] <Scunizi> ScottG489: the typical rule for hibernate is 1.5x ram.. for you that's a lot.. can you hybernate with nothing open but the desktop?
[17:45] <quibbler> afancy: ? i have no idea ...don't use one i have enough with googlecalendar
[17:45] <ScottG489> jtaji: Hibernation can not use a swap file?
[17:45] <jtaji> ScottG489: nope
[17:45] <fiftyone> mattbd, thanks alot man i really appreciate it.
[17:45] <caracuri> hi
[17:45] <ScottG489> Scunizi: Probably, but when i tried to hibernate one time i believe i just had Pidgin and Konversation open, maybe one other small program too
[17:46] <caracuri> i have a problem upgrading ubuntu
[17:46] <caracuri> http://rafb.net/p/ISVacn16.html
[17:46] <mattbd> fiftyone: I got Doom for Windows 95 working by making sure the resolution in Wine matched what was in Doom when it ran
[17:46] <fiftyone> hey i didnt think of that
[17:46] <Scunizi> ScottG489: is this a laptop?
[17:46] <mattbd> fiftyone: Or if the game will run in DOS, you can try DOSBox
[17:46] <fiftyone> lol@ windows 95
[17:46] <deany> isnt Doom native now?
[17:46] <ScottG489> Scunizi: fiftyone: jtaji said that hibernate can not find my hibernation file so as far as hibernate is concerned I only have 1.5 gigs of swap, apparently. Yes I'm on a laptop
[17:46] <fiftyone> mattbd, wow man i so remember windows 90 lol
[17:47] <mattbd> deany: Freedoom isn't quite the same - I think a lot of the content is non-free
[17:47] <mattbd> deany: The original Doom for DOS works best IMHO, I run it in DOSBox, but Wine will run the Windows 95 version
[17:47] <Xenos_> Ah. Got it mounted now. Now I just have to wait for updates to finish installing and I'll add PySDM (A web tutorial I found seems to recommend ntfs-config, tho?)
[17:48] <noo7> Enter text here...any girl
[17:48] <fiftyone> scottG489 I had the problem with my eeepc because ubuntu for somereason the hibernate osent work out of the box so i had to make a special swap file just for  hibernation, still dosent work when I close the lid but fn+f1 work like a charm
[17:48] <Scunizi> ScottG489: hibernate is a difficult thing to get right on laptops because there is no standard way of implementing it. Ubuntu has made great strides in accomidating many types but hasn't reverse engineered them all. your's might be one of those.. check www.ubuntuforums.org and search for your laptop and hibernate to see what others are saying.
[17:48] <deany> Xenos_, just make your mount point and add to fstab
[17:49] <CoffeeBean> Can someone help me find some good tutorials on using the tao framework with Monodevelop?
[17:49] <ScottG489> Scunizi: fiftyone:  jtaji: So like I said, it seems like it would be best to just make hibernate write to my hard disk partition instead of swap? And Scunizi, it will hibernate sometimes so it does work, but it just seems kinda erratic as to when it works.
[17:49] <fiftyone> try looking on google for hibernation + ubuntu + your laptop version chances are this is not an isolaated probelm
[17:49] <Droopsta915> Why does my network icon say disables, but I can get online?
[17:49] <MoTec> maybe it's a different nic
[17:49] <ScottG489> fiftyone: Wel fn+f1 is sleep for me
[17:49] <noo7> hi
[17:50] <noo7> were you
[17:50] <Droopsta915> nevermind I cant get online anymore?
[17:50] <evon> anyone try ozos?
[17:50] <mattbd> evon: Gave it a go once
[17:50] <noo7> hi
[17:50] <fiftyone> scottG489 what lappy are you using?
[17:50] <mattbd> evon: Liked it, but OpenGEU is my fave E17 distro
[17:50] <noo7> hi
[17:50] <noo7> were you
[17:51] <ScottG489> fiftyone: I think it might have been hibernate before for me but I wanted to bind those keys to sleep. It wouldnt really matter either way, its the command the executes that matters. Im using a Dell Studio 15
[17:51] <ScottG489> Scunizi: fiftyone: But there is a way to make hibernate write to my hard disk partition isnt there?
[17:52] <quibbler> noo7: if you have an ubuntu problem just state it ...if you just wish to chat go o #ubuntu-offtopics
[17:52] <Scunizi> #ubuntu-offtopic   .. no "s"
[17:52] <quibbler> Scunizi: sorry
[17:53] <evon> mattbd: why do prefer OpenGeu?
[17:54] <fiftyone> scottg489 http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=273048
[17:54] <daemoen_> hey guys, does ubutu support group type installations?
[17:54] <mattbd> evon: OpenGEU is very polished and looks great, OzOS is very nice, but it's not quite on the same level as OpenGEU.
[17:54] <daemoen_> with fedora, we are able to do yum groupinstall "group name", trying to get a fully working development environment, and its getting rather tiring having to do it package by package
[17:55] <NicEXE> how can I untar a tar file using xarchiver (in cli)
[17:55] <daemoen_> NicEXE, use tar instead.
[17:55] <daemoen_> tar -x
[17:55] <daemoen_> if its a bz2 use tar -jx if its gz use tar -zx
[17:55] <NicEXE> daemoen: instead of what?
[17:55] <alaz> daemoen_, install fedora then :p
[17:56] <Droopsta915> I cant get my netwrok connection? I eedited the /etc/network/interface. I was messing with vbox last night. I got online in the morning and now I can't get online?
[17:56] <evon> mattbd: i'm installing OZOS in virtualbox right now and looks great so far. I think it looks a lot better than OpenGEU but I don't know what it will run like
[17:56] <daemoen_> alaz, nice typical dumbshit response to someone asking an honest question.
[17:56] <daemoen_> dont waste my time, plz.
[17:56] <fiftyone> scottG489 yes, like i said you just create a file on your hard drive.  just create the file say 2gb then you tell linux to write hibernation there instead  of your swap partition.
[17:56] <mattbd> evon:I do think that E17 is the ideal desktop for netbooks though, and if I ran a netbook manufacturer I'd consider taking on the E17 developers on a salary to get it up to scratch quickly
[17:56] <Scunizi> NicEXE: tar is also a program that will untar and tar a set of files.
[17:56] <Scunizi> NicEXE: man tar
[17:56] <fiftyone> mattbd the eee pc is an amazing netbook
[17:56] <daemoen_> is there a similar way of installing groups in ubuntu, fairly straightforward question
[17:56] <mattbd> evon: It's good, definitely, but the themes aren't really my cup of tea
[17:56] <Droopsta915> ifconfig
[17:57] <evon> mattbd: do you know if it comes with mp3, DVD and mp3 support (either opengeu or ozos)
[17:57] <MoTec> xfce4 runs like a champ on my netbook.
[17:57] <mattbd> fiftyone: I have an Eee and I love it
[17:57] <Xenos> Ahh, better.
[17:57] <IntuitiveNipple> daemoen_: which development packages are you wanting? The Debian way is to use 'virtual' packages that depend on a bunch of real packages to install several at once
[17:57] <mattbd> evon: I'm not sure about OzOS, but most Ubuntu-based distros ship without that support
[17:57] <IntuitiveNipple> daemoen_: See for example the virtual package "ubuntu-desktop"
[17:57] <evon> mattbd: oh so it's just a matter of themes for you. ok. I want to install it on my sons old P3 but i want something that comes with that kind of support
[17:57] <daemoen_> right, or kubuntu-desktop
[17:58] <cristi> hy! i have some problem with my laptop. if i put the headsets on the sound will play through the headset but also through the speakers
[17:58] <Droopsta915> How can I disable my br0 interface?
[17:58] <IntuitiveNipple> daemoen_: correct
[17:58] <daemoen_> is there a list of the virtual packages?
[17:58] <fiftyone> mattbd,  its amazing fantastic little lappy i got the 1000H with 160gb Hd its fantastic. one of the best laptops i have owned
[17:58] <mattbd> evon: It's pretty easy to install - just run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:58] <evon> mattbd: so as far as stability goes ozos is fine?
[17:58] <fiftyone> even better ssince im running ubuntu on it
[17:58] <evon> mattbd: oh ok
[17:58] <mattbd> evon: It was fine for me.
[17:58] <fiftyone> i made that decision that if I bought it I would only run linux on it
[17:58] <daemoen_> or an easy way to list them for that matter.  dont know debian/ubuntu very well, so rather unfamiliar with it
[17:58] <cristi> ﻿ hy! i have some problem with my laptop. if i put the headsets on the sound will play through the headset but also through the speakers. how can i fix that so it will only play through headset.
[17:59] <daemoen_> was at least able to get the libs i needed by doing apt-get install zlib* but that was rather sloppy
[17:59] <NicEXE> how can i mount file.img to /here ?
[17:59] <mattbd> fiftyone: Mine's a 2GB Surg so it's too small to run Ubuntu :-(
[17:59] <evon> mattbd: thanks for the input.  I will let my son choose which one he wants and install it. I will probably put one on my laptop too.
[17:59] <daemoen_> NicEXE, use the loop device
[17:59] <mattbd> evon: Have you heard of Maryan Linux?
[18:00] <IntuitiveNipple> daemoen_: I'm not aware of a list, and I can't see how to search for them on http://packages.ubuntu.com  ... possibly apt-cache can do that
[18:00] <NicEXE> daemoen: how?
[18:00] <adaptr> Aryan Linux ?
[18:00] <evon> mattbd: my laptop is an up to date one but i want an OS that will take up less resources. Maryan linux is still in its testing stages as far as I know. i installed it in virtualbox yesterday
[18:00] <mattbd> adaptr: No, Maryan Linux http://www.maryanlinux.com/
[18:00] <ScottG489> fiftyone: Ok, well I think that person was having a different problem then me but thanks. And how do I tell hibernate to write to that file on my harddisk instead of swap?
[18:00] <daemoen_> IntuitiveNipple, ok, ty, at least i have it compiling now, would just rather use a group :)
[18:00] <IntuitiveNipple> NicEXE: losetup /dev/loop0 file.img && mkdir /here && mount /dev/loop0 /here
[18:01] <mattbd> evon: OK, I thought that might be worth trying as it's based on Linux Mint so it includes the restricted extras out of the box
[18:01] <SherlawkDragon> hey
[18:01] <Droopsta915> I have a br0 , eth0 , and lo, I don't want the br0. How can I get it to go away?
[18:01] <IntuitiveNipple> daemoen_: If you want the *development* headers then if there is a similar ubuntu package to the one you're building (possibly an earlier version) I often cheat and just do sudo apt-get build-dep <package>
[18:01] <evon> mattbd: well i will follow your instructions to install the restricted stuff
[18:01] <adaptr> Droopsta915: man brctl
[18:02] <Scunizi> mattbd: so it's a fork of a fork.. linux mint is a fork of ubuntu
[18:02] <SliM1> i have a problem with gnome-panel and associated applets on hardy
[18:02] <evon> mattbd: what was that code again?
[18:02] <SherlawkDragon> whenever I go offline, I lose the ability to use my computer's Apache server, is there a way to fix that?
[18:02] <alaz> Droopsta915, ifconfig remove br0 or so i think
[18:02] <fearful> SliM1: Whats your problem?
[18:02] <alaz> Droopsta915, man ifconfig and find the correct parameter to remove a interface.
[18:02] <ZAKhan> how can i connect using vncviewer to a remote ubuntu pc if the user has not loogged in on that machine?
[18:02] <mattbd> evon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu restricted-extras
[18:02] <SliM1> fearful: they use way to much ram
[18:02] <Scunizi> SherlawkDragon: you mean that your machine is a desktop and server with apache?
[18:02] <SherlawkDragon> I mean, I can't access localhost in offline mode
[18:02] <Larrxi> sudo apt-get clean my room
[18:02] <wbagam> lolz
[18:03] <Safe> Okay, now I'm getting frustrated. Reinstalled, configurated the IP manually, STILL the same problem.
[18:03] <mattbd> Scunizi: It's more of a respin of Linux Mint than an actual fork
[18:03] <fearful> SliM1: How much exactly?
[18:03] <SherlawkDragon> Scunizi> I mean, it's a computer that I do stuff with, and it has apache, but when I go offline, I can't access localhost
[18:03] <adaptr> SherlawkDragon: depending on what you think "offline" means, you're not actually using "localhost"
[18:03] <SliM1> i don't think 30 mb ram is ok for gnome-panel alone
[18:03] <mattbd> Scunizi: They started with Mint and just customised it with E17
[18:03] <Scunizi> SherlawkDragon: hwo do you mean go "offline"
[18:03] <fearful> SliM1: I'm using 15mb, how many panels do you have?
[18:03] <SliM1> two
[18:04] <SherlawkDragon> adaptr> I mean: unplug the LAN, so that I am no longer connected to the internet
[18:04] <evon> mattbd: thanks a lot, your help is much appreciated
[18:04] <fearful> SliM1: I only have one and I'm using 15mb for the panel.
[18:04] <IntuitiveNipple> SherlawkDragon: Does apache bind to 127.0.0.1 ? can you access it via http://127.0.0.1/ ?
[18:04] <mattbd> evon: You're welcome
[18:04] <SherlawkDragon> IntuitiveNipple> no.  I tried that.  Doesn't work
[18:04] <Scunizi> SherlawkDragon: then it should be accessable only to the machine that it is running on.
[18:04] <fearful> SliM1: It is kind of high, how many things did you add to the panels?
[18:04] <SherlawkDragon> Scunizi> yes.  exactly.
[18:05] <Droopsta915> It's brctl delbr br0, but it says the bridge br0 is still up. How can I get it to go down?
[18:05] <SherlawkDragon> So what's wrong?
[18:05] <sosa1> Salve #ubuntu
[18:05] <evon> mattbd: do you know of any way to install e17 in mint
[18:05] <evon> ?
[18:05] <Droopsta915> It's brctl delbr br0, but it says the bridge br0 is still up. How can I get it to go down?
[18:05] <evon> mattbd: i tried to use apt but it does not working properly
[18:05] <Scunizi> SherlawkDragon: you might check /etc/hosts and see if 127.0.0.1 is listed.
[18:05] <_VIM_> !repeat | Droopsta915
[18:05] <SherlawkDragon> good thought...
[18:05] <max12333334> is tvtime supporting text feature?
[18:06] <Droopsta915> I hit it on accident the second time, sorry bot, I'm not trying to repeat
[18:06] <mattbd> evon: What's the error mesage?
[18:06] <cristi> ﻿i have some problem with my laptop. if i put the headsets on the sound will play through the headset but also through the speakers. how can i fix this?
[18:06] <SherlawkDragon> Scunizi> 127.0.0.1	localhost
[18:06] <SherlawkDragon> 127.0.1.1	raccoon-laptop
[18:06] <fearful> SliM1: Try and removing some of the applets you added to the panels and see if that lowers your RAM usage.
[18:06] <Ben_Cs> when installinf from alternate cd i get: menu item 'pkgsel' failed with eeror code 1.     please help!
[18:06] <IntuitiveNipple> SherlawkDragon: That will be the problem then. You need to ensure apache (and the virtual host(s)) are bound to localhost (127.0.0.1) *not* just the LAN interface IPs
[18:07] <soumen> help
[18:07] <SherlawkDragon> It shouldn't be bound to anything else, but how do I check?
[18:07] <wbagam> httpd.conf?
[18:07] <IntuitiveNipple> SherlawkDragon: In the apache configuration files (/etc/apache2/*)
[18:08] <IntuitiveNipple> SherlawkDragon: Look particularly at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[18:08] <SherlawkDragon> actually, the problem is wierd, it might not be Apache, but Firefox: when I try to access localhost from offline, it tells me that I can't in offline mode
[18:08] <ITRO> hi
[18:08] <TheBase> hello
[18:08] <ITRO> spanish?
[18:08] <Cee> hi all
[18:08] <exodus_ms> !es
[18:09] <ITRO> halguin habla espanil?
[18:09] <SherlawkDragon> Oh, well there's only one site in Sites Enabled, and that's the site
[18:09] <ITRO> espanol
[18:09] <IntuitiveNipple> SherlawkDragon: try using "wget"
[18:09] <exodus_ms> !es | ITRO
[18:09] <Scunizi> SherlawkDragon: does FF have an "Offline" mode that is currently on? otherwise it would simply time out if it couldn't make a connection.
[18:09] <Cee> can some1 help me with opensuse kde?
[18:09] <Cee> can some1 help me with opensuse kde?
[18:09] <MoTec> Cee: try #opensuse or #kde
[18:09] <Cee> k ty
[18:10] <timahvo1> can you declare multiple audio_output sections in mpdconf like say one for oss and another for shoutcast ?
[18:10] <evon> mattbd: i can't even tell you what the full message is because the error box appears half off the screen. after i press f1 it then asks me to troubleshoot the issue by loading modules individually
[18:10] <Kryzler> hmmm... is there a Dutch Ubuntu channel?
[18:10] <SherlawkDragon> Scunizi> I don't know, I have no idea why FireFox doesn't like it, I do this all the time on other computers.
[18:10] <imdeveloper> is it imporant to install antivirus
[18:10] <SliM1> fearful: this one is nasty: gnome-appearance-properties uses one core to 100%, even after I close the window
[18:10] <imdeveloper> or its not nessesory ?
[18:10] <Scunizi> SherlawkDragon: try a terminal browser.
[18:10] <ScottG489> fiftyone: How do I make a file that hibernate can write to and then tell hibernate to write to it?
[18:11] <mattbd> evon: OK, were you using Synaptic, Add/Remove or the command line?
[18:11] <ITRO> alguien habla espanol?
[18:11] <fearful> SliM1: I don't have that process, what is it exactly something with the panels?
[18:11] <SherlawkDragon> IntuitiveNipple> wget works fine
[18:11] <MoTec> Kryzler: There is, I don't know the channel name, however.
[18:11] <yoyit2> hi i am trying to install some updates but i have like 10 update faded out and it wont let me install them so i try to install them useing package manager and i get this error code gpac:
[18:11] <yoyit2>   Depends: libasound2 (>1.0.18) but 1.0.17a-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[18:11] <yoyit2>  it says there is a newer version of that driver but in package manager that is the latest version it makes no sence
[18:11] <fearful> !es | ITRO
[18:11] <exodus_ms> !es | ITRO
[18:11] <IntuitiveNipple> SherlawkDragon: so it is Firefox then? try restarting it whilst the LAN is down
[18:11] <SherlawkDragon> Scunizi> like lynx?
[18:11] <Kryzler> heh, no worries... MoTec I'll hunt around
[18:11] <exodus_ms> ITRO, read the freaking post dude, thats the fourth one
[18:11] <SherlawkDragon> I could use Lynx, but then I wouldn't be able to see much to test...
[18:12] <Scunizi> SherlawkDragon: sure or elinks or w3m
[18:12] <MoTec> Kryzler: google tells me #ubuntu-nl but I don't know if that's right.
[18:12] <evon> mattbd: i tried both and both gave me the same error.
[18:12] <SherlawkDragon> IntuitiveNipple> that's a good idea...
[18:12] <kshadow> elinks?
[18:12] <kshadow> Is that like a better version of links?
[18:12] <Kryzler> yep that's the one MoTec :D thanks
[18:12] <Vonor> anyone currently using gnome-globalmenu?
[18:12] <evon> mattbd: i used some e17-svn thing first then i tried to install enlightenment fro apt
[18:12] <Scunizi> kshadow: yep.. I like it.
[18:12] <MoTec> Kryzler: Have fun :)
[18:12] <kshadow> Hrmm, maybe I'll have to check it out.
[18:13] <ITRO> :( esque en los canales  de espanool son principiantes :(
[18:13] <mattbd> evon: OK, so you're installing E17 from apt?
[18:13] <ZAKhan> how can i connect using vncviewer to a remote ubuntu pc if the user has not loogged in on that machine?
[18:13] <mattbd> evon: And is that on Ubuntu?
[18:13] <notk0> anybody helkp mea please
[18:13] <TheBase> I'm running Ubuntu version 8.4 (Hardy), which runs with kernel 2.6.23, and I'm trying to run an 802.1x supplicant that needs some identifiers that are only available on linux >= 2.6.25. Basically I need a kernel version >= 2.6.25. Can I somehow run a kernel >= 2.6.25 without having to upgrade to another distribution (like Intrepid)?
[18:13] <notk0> /dev/sound doesnt exist
[18:13] <_VIM_> !es | ITRO
[18:13] <notk0> were is the sound?
[18:13] <fearful> SliM1: Did you find out?
[18:13] <ITRO> ok
[18:13] <noo7>  i wan t any girl
[18:13] <_VIM_> !ot | noo7
[18:13] <SherlawkDragon> ?
[18:13] <notk0> sound works but i want to know were is found?
[18:13] <fearful> ITRO: Mira el mensaje que te mande
[18:13] <noo7>  any girl
[18:13] <Scunizi> kshadow: that's what I'm doing now.. using screen at terminal and then split the screen.. upper half is elinks and lower is irssi.. other terminal windows open, mutt for email and one bash screen..
[18:14] <notk0> anybody?
[18:14] <exodus_ms> _VIM_, doesnt do any good, have already showed him 4 times already
[18:14] <SherlawkDragon> noo7> no.  No one wants to cyber. >>;;
[18:14] <rotema8> my ubuntu 8.04.2 freeze when gltext screensaver on
[18:14] <evon> mattbd: using mint
[18:14] <MoTec> He's just saying that there is nobody in the spanish channel to help.
[18:14] <notk0> anybody pleasE?
[18:14] <evon> mattbd: and using apt. yes.
[18:14] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: You could install one of the Intrepid kernels and configure /boot/grub/menu.lst with an additional entry to try it... there may have been changes between kernel and userspace that cause issues though.
[18:15] <mattbd> evon: OK, so you're wanting to install E17 on Mint?
[18:15] <noo7>  were you
[18:15] <exodus_ms> MoTec, too bad I don't speak spanish
[18:15] <noo7> jj
[18:15] <evon> mattbd: yes. It would easier for me to do that than to install a new OS
[18:15] <SliM1> fearful: well, it's the one that shows phen you cick "change desktop background"
[18:15] <timahvo1> TheBase: you could compile your own kernel including the modules you want I guess
[18:15] <noo7>  any site sex
[18:15] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, that's what I was worried about. :/
[18:15] <_VIM_> noo7: please stop that
[18:15] <exodus_ms> noo7, go away
[18:15] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | noo7
[18:15] <Scunizi> !ops | noo7
[18:15] <noo7> ok
[18:15] <notk0> guys how can i find the equivalent of /dev/sound please?
[18:16] <mattbd> evon: OK, there's two versions of Enlightenment at present - E16 and E17
[18:16] <kshadow> Well, updating to intrepid worked fine, and my wireless didn't die,.
[18:16] <_VIM_> mattbd: i think Ubuntu only has E16 in the repos :(
[18:16] <porkpie> guy's what is the latest 64bit server version for ubuntu
[18:16] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: If you try it and review /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/debug after it starts you'll soon know whether it is stable.
[18:16] <mattbd> evon: E16 is the stable version which will be in most distro's repositories
[18:16] <evon> mattbd: e16 worked but i didn't like it at all. e17 is what I want
[18:16] <TheBase> timahvo1, the 80211.h is in the /usr/include and I think it's part of the linux-libc. Is there any way I can find out exactly which module does it belongs to?
[18:16] <Scunizi> porkpie: intrepid
[18:17] <porkpie> Scunizi:is that x86
[18:17] <mattbd> evon: Getting packages for E17 is a real pain, but I've done it before. Give me a minute and I'll find it.
[18:17] <yoyit2> i get this error when i am trying to install something in package manager   Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>=2.15.0) but 2.14.4-0ubuntu2 is to be installed the vision that is install right now is 2.14.4 why wont it install i got the latest version
[18:17] <Scunizi> porkpie: there should also be a 64 bit version
[18:17] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, that sound a fun thing to do :)
[18:17] <kshadow> evon: e17 is nice, but it's not completely stable.
[18:18] <kshadow> evon: But you can still get it using reasy.sh, or easy.sh
[18:18] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, do I have to change any settings to enable the debug?
[18:18] <[biabia]> something isnt set how i want it. i close  my apps before i reboot, but when i login they all auto-start, (browser, xchat)  how can i have them not auto-start?
[18:18] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, or any parameter somewhere ?
[18:18] <yoyit2> i get this error when i am trying to install something in package manager   Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>=2.15.0) but 2.14.4-0ubuntu2 is to be installed the vision that is install right now is 2.14.4 why wont it install i got the latest version
[18:18] <_VIM_> kshadow: can i get E17 for Ubuntu 8.04?
[18:19] <kshadow> Yeah.
[18:19] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase:  on the kernel command-line don't use "quiet splash" but use "debug"
[18:19] <clessmax> ??
[18:19] <Scunizi> porkpie: I just looked and I can clearly see 2 versions available.
[18:19] <_VIM_> kshadow: how?
[18:19] <kshadow> _VIM_: One sec.
[18:19] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, cool
[18:19] <_VIM_> ok
[18:19] <TheBase> I'll try it. Thanks
[18:19] <Dillizar> any body with 8.10 can pls tell what is the name of the brown with lil yellow theme :) pls
[18:19] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: hang on a mo I'm just checking which kernel introduced 80211.h
[18:19] <wbagam> human?
[18:19] <mattbd> evon: Try this thread from the Ubuntu Forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916690
[18:19] <kshadow> _VIM_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=E17+cvs
[18:20] <_VIM_> kshadow: ok ty :)
[18:20] <kshadow> Follow that.
[18:20] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, there are loads of different versions of the 80211.h
[18:20] <kshadow> It's a bit out of date, but you'l still get the latest.
[18:20] <kshadow> But remember, e17 isn't entirely stable.
[18:20] <evon> mattbd: yup that's the one i tried
[18:20] <evon> mattbd: didn't work
[18:20] <kshadow> Some people have been running it for months without any problems, but it didn't work too well for me when I tried it a few months back.
[18:21] <fearful> SliM1: Do you have swap enabled?
[18:21] <evon> mattbd: same error apt gave me
[18:21] <mattbd> evon: OK, so it was something to do with CVS?
[18:21] <kshadow> evon, mattbd Use this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=E17+cvs
[18:21] <SliM1> fearful: i do, but i don't really need swap
[18:22] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: is it linux/ieee80211.h  you're interested in
[18:22] <SliM1> fearful: i have never seen it being used
[18:22] <evon> kshadow: that's a really old one. older than the other one
[18:22] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, things are been added to it on most kernel releases (if not all)
[18:22] <kshadow> evon: Yesw, but it works.
[18:22] <kshadow> :)
[18:22] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, no. it's the nl80211.h
[18:22] <timahvo1> TheBase: apt-file search 80211.h should be under net/
[18:22] <SliM1> fearful: i do have 4 GB of RAM
[18:22] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.28.4/include/linux/nl80211.h
[18:22] <fearful> SliM1: Your swap uses 0%?
[18:22] <evon> mattbd: i don't know about cvs?
[18:22] <SliM1> fearful: yes
[18:23] <fearful> Thats awkward you should be using some of the swap that could be one of the starting errors
[18:23] <mattbd> evon:  CVS is a versioning system. Basically it means it grabs the source code for it and compiles it.
[18:23] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, browsing through the version you will see that new stuff keeps been added.
[18:23] <ronny> hi
[18:23] <mattbd> evon: You do gt the latest and greatest but it's very slow and can take a few hours to compile
[18:24] <ronny> is there any reason why subversion depends on mysql-common?
[18:24] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: I'm looking at the git-log history
[18:24] <kshadow> mattbd: Few hours? You must have a slow box. :O
[18:24] <fearful> SliM1: I can't think why else it is using so much memory, sometimes little apps like update manager and gnome-panel use a lot of the RAM but should go to swap
[18:24] <evon> mattbd: i did use the cvs version i believe because it took a very long time to install
[18:25] <WeeLubo> Hi all, Can anyone tell me how to stop my disc drive ejecting during the boot sequence?
[18:25] <SliM1> fearful: well, yes, but the appearance manager app is a real problem
[18:25] <fearful> SliM1: You sure swap is enabled?
[18:25] <mattbd> evon: With something like OpenGEU or OzOS it'll already be bundled with E17 so no compile time unless it uses the CVS to upgrade
[18:25] <SliM1> fearful: 0 out of 5GB
[18:25] <fearful> SliM1: Thats real wierd one sec
[18:25] <fiftyone> hi, anyone know anything about encryption on linux>?  I would likee to encrypt a couple of folders whats the best program to do such a thing>/?
[18:25] <mattbd> kshadow: This was in Virtualbox, so a bit slower than a real machine
[18:25] <kshadow> Ah, yeah, for sure.
[18:25] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, where can I get the file's history?
[18:25] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: yeah, the key differences between v2.6.24 (hardy) and v2.6.25 are station beacon and key handling
[18:26] <MoTec> oh holy crap.. apparently i got drunk and ordered a new car off the interwebs last nite.
[18:26] <MoTec> sorry, wrong channel :(
[18:26] <evon> mattbd: ok thanks. I will try those to distros.
[18:26] <SliM1> sound isn't working
[18:26] <evon> mattbd: burning ozos right now
[18:26] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: Well, the way to check the git-log is to clone the kernel git tree and query the log, but you'd probably need to then spend time learning how best to use git too :)
[18:26] <soumen> d
[18:26] <soumen> d
[18:26] <soumen> d
[18:26] <FloodBot1> soumen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:27] <evon> anyone know how to get tvucast to work in linux?
[18:27] <mattbd> evon: Hope ozos or OpenGEU work out OK for you
[18:27] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: It'll be quicker to install an Intrepid kernel and modify menu.lst
[18:27] <fearful> SliM1: I seriously can't think of any reason why its using so much RAM.
[18:27] <fiftyone> I used bestcrypt before on windows i downloaded it for linux but not sure how well it will work. Anyone have any experiance with encryption for linux><
[18:27] <evon> mattbd: me too. I tried opengeu on my laptop before and it didn't work well at all
[18:27] <fearful> SliM1: Restart xserver? CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[18:28] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, That's actually on my TODO list. What git tool do you use btw?
[18:28] <kshadow> fiftyone: Only with decryption sorry.
[18:28] <SliM1> fearful: i have already restarted my computer several times
[18:28] <fiftyone> kshadow, thanks
[18:28] <mattbd> evon: Well, laptops are generally more tricky than desktops
[18:28] <SliM1> fearful: perhaps kde is better
[18:29] <fearful> SliM1: Well, you can try because I seriously have no reason why your apperance manager is using so much RAM it shouldn't
[18:29] <evon> mattbd: i guess so. i use my laptop mostly so i need a good OS for it/
[18:30] <WeeLubo> Hi all, Can anyone tell me how to stop my disc drive ejecting during the boot sequence?
[18:30] <fearful> SliM1: Have you installed anything that may affect it?
[18:30] <SliM1> fearful: it's not using much ram, it's just using as much processing power a single thread can
[18:30] <[biabia]> something isnt set how i want it. i close  my apps before i reboot, but when i login they all auto-start, (browser, xchat)  how can i have them not auto-start?
[18:30] <wcdl> does anyone know how to edit window border in ubuntu
[18:30] <mattbd> evon: These day's its rare to find something that won't work at all unless it's very new hardware
[18:30] <_VIM_> kshadow: I found an updated guide for E17 , that one was a bit outdated :)  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916690
[18:30] <SliM1> SliM1: well, the problem may be that I started with a cli system
[18:30] <IntuitiveNipple> TheBase: git-core package contains the git tools
[18:30] <mattbd> wcdl: What do you mean? Do you mean change the theme for application windows?
[18:30] <Danielbw_home> [biabia], go to your session managment settings
[18:31] <wcdl> does anyone know how to edit window border in metacity
[18:31] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, Cool.
[18:31] <TheBase> IntuitiveNipple, Thanks for the help!
[18:31] <[biabia]> Danielbw_home: ok
[18:31] <mattbd> wcdl: You can change the theme for the Metacity window manager if that's what you mean
[18:31] <TheBase> timahvo1, thanks for the help!
[18:31] <wcdl> yeah i know but only the sides
[18:31] <TheBase> :)
[18:32] <TheBase> tampering with the kernel rules :D
[18:32] <wcdl> i wanna change only the sides....example like mac os x
[18:32] <fearful> SliM1: I have no idea I'm sorry I bumped I can't think of anything else
[18:32] <SliM1> ok
[18:32] <jonah> my computer is not playing mp3 files! i installed the GStreamer extra plugins. When I try to import music i get the error "the gstreamer plugins to play audio/x-asf-unknown type files cannot be found
[18:32] <mattbd> wcdl: Do you want to make it look like a Mac then?
[18:32] <jonah> help?
[18:32] <SliM1> i'll give kde a try
[18:32] <Royall> Every time I open the file selection window with buttons like "Browse" in applications or on websites, the window comes up tiny, and I have to drag the corner to make it normal size. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[18:32] <wcdl> yes
[18:32] <mattbd> wcdl: If so try Mac4Lin
[18:33] <xoox> !mp3 > jonah
[18:33] <Zopiac1> my cursor doesnt move fast enough; i have Sensitivity to max, but i dont like Acceleration, so im not adding it
[18:33] <mattbd> wcdl: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin
[18:33] <fearful> SliM1: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:33] <Royall> Zopiac1: that is what makes your cursor faster
[18:33] <wcdl> i want to make it look like Mac but only the window
[18:33] <mattbd> wcdl: There's full instructions inside the package
[18:33] <wcdl> without the borders
[18:33] <MoTec> SliM1: Might want to consider xubuntu-desktop too, it uses xfce4
[18:33] <mattbd> wcdl: You can pick out just the parts you want to use
[18:34] <SliM1> fearful: yeah, i know, but i'll remove gnome before that
[18:34] <Zopiac1> Royall: then what is sensitivity? in just about everything else i use it is how fast it moves
[18:34] <wcdl> i'll give it a try
[18:34] <mattbd> wcdl: Only other way to do it would be to find a theme that is already like that or make one
[18:34] <fearful> SliM1: Ok well, sorry coulnd't help... I have no idea and yea you could try xubuntu, its made for less resource usage
[18:34] <Royall> Zopiac1: Don't really know, but Acceleration is the speed
[18:34] <evon> mattbd: true enough. I just don't have the time for all that tinkering.  and I really dislike windows.
[18:34] <SliM1> MoTec: well, i'll start with kde
[18:34] <SliM1> is it faster than gnome?
[18:34] <[biabia]> Danielbw_home: aha! thanks
[18:34] <wcdl> and about edit an existing one
[18:34] <fearful> SliM1: It's made for computers with less power.
[18:35] <MoTec> yes, xfce is blazingly fast compared to either gnome or xfce, expecially on lower power hardware.
[18:35] <adaptr> xfce beats xfce on all fronts!
[18:35] <SliM1> kde, not xfce
[18:35] <MoTec> you can download the xubuntu and kubuntu live cds and give 'em both a try.
[18:35] <MoTec> adaptr: heh, yes..  i messed that up, obviously :)
[18:35] <rsteckler> To change my hostname, it looks like I need to modify /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.  Is there anything else I need to modify?  This is an ssh-only server, so I need to make sure I'll have access after I change it  =)
[18:35] <mattbd> wcdl: Yes you could do that, but it's easier to find an existing one on http://gnome-look.org
[18:36] <SliM1> hmm, won't xubuntu-dektop/kubuntu-desktop be enough?
[18:36] <MoTec> meant to say that xfce is faster than kde and/or gnome, obviously :)
[18:36] <wcdl> mattbd: the question is, i like the darkroom theme and i want to remove the window border of that theme
[18:36] <MoTec> SliM1: yes, you can do that, too
[18:36] <[biabia]> kde is more geared to profiding expanded configurability and features while xfce is designed towards systems where resource conservation is desired/necessary ?
[18:36] <wcdl> is there anyway to do that?
[18:36] <SliM1> MoTec: does compiz work (well) with xubuntu?
[18:36] <mattbd> wcdl: You can change Metacity's theme
[18:36] <imdeveloper> is nessesory to install antivirus on ubuntu ?
[18:36] <darkweasel> no
[18:37] <MoTec> SliM1: I don't use copiz becaue my hardware is weak - that's why i'm using xfce in the first place.
[18:37] <darkweasel> http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html
[18:37] <darkweasel> :p
[18:37] <deany> I dont see hardly any difference in speed/mem usage with xubuntu/ubuntu.. i noticed it using gnome libs too..
[18:37] <mattbd> wcdl: Metacity is the window manager, so that controls the outsides of the application such as the minimise and exit widgets and the outside
[18:38] <mattbd> wcdl: Or you could use Compiz and install the Emerald theme manager so you could use Emerald themes, which are a lot nicer than Metacity ones
[18:38] <SliM1> MoTec: why not openbox? :>
[18:38] <MoTec> SliM1: because there is no oubuntu :)
[18:38] <SliM1> there is
[18:39] <mattbd> SliM1: There's CrunchBang Linux, that uses OpenBox, and is very good
[18:39] <quibbler> darkweasel: is open source only getting that now...windows has had it for ages
[18:39] <SliM1> MoTec: i think i've read about it in the wiki
[18:40] <SliM1> mattbd: well, openbox is not for me
[18:40] <darkweasel> yeah, when it comes to viruses open source is years behind windows, really!
[18:40] <MoTec> SliM1: yeah, just found a forum post on how to install it, starting from ubuntu-server
[18:40] <IntuitiveNipple> darkweasel: A great way of phrasing it, that :D
[18:41] <alltax> xfig gives me this when trying to export fig2dev: can't open file: /usr/share/xfig/fig2dev/sv_SE.UTF-8.ps :(
[18:41] <SliM1> MoTec: that's bad, ubuntu server has a different kernel, i tried it starting with the ubuntu minimal cd
[18:41] <lordnoid> hi, I added windows xp to my grub config file but when I try to boot it nothing happens.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/115729/
[18:41] <darkweasel> ubuntu server has a different kernel? seems new to me
[18:42] <mattbd> darkweasel: Yes, they have a kernel customised for servers installed by default in Ubuntu Server, if you install a desktop like ubuntu-desktop it can mess it up because it will pull in the kernel for Ubuntu Desktop
[18:43] <darkweasel> ah, ok - learning something new every day
[18:43] <blip-> hi all,  I need to remove sudo abilities for a user, how can I do that ?  is it the same as removing root abilities ?
[18:43] <Artelus> Hello
[18:43] <Flannel> blip-: Just remove them from the admin group
[18:43] <mattbd> blip-: Run visudo and remove them from the list of sudoers
[18:43] <IntuitiveNipple> darkweasel: server kernel has a slower clock (desktop has 250Hz, server 100Hz), PAE support on 32-bit, and several other differences
[18:44] <Flannel> mattbd: Thats not the correct method (nor will it work)
[18:44] <darkweasel> hm. ok.
[18:44] <SliM1> will kubuntu-desktop give me kde 4? (hardy)
[18:44] <mattbd> Flannel: I just tried it as "sudo visudo" and it worked
[18:44] <_VIM_> SliM1: yes
[18:44] <darkweasel> SliM1, not on hardy
[18:44] <fearful> SliM1: Yes it will
[18:44] <_VIM_> yes it will
[18:45] <darkweasel> really?
[18:45] <Flannel> mattbd: The users aren't listed in sudoers, so you can't remove them from it.
[18:45] <Artelus> I heard there was a way to install Ubuntu inside windows, is this a good idea?
[18:45] <mattbd> Flannel: Oh, yes, you're right. Ooops!
[18:45] <darkweasel> actually i thought on hardy it's called kubuntu-desktop-kde4 or something
[18:45] <fearful> Artelus: Depends on your usage of Ubuntu
[18:45] <_VIM_> Artelus: you mean wubi?
[18:45] <maxagaz> the fan of my ATI 9600 never stop to turn, how to stop it ?
[18:45] <Artelus> Well, from the Live CD
[18:45] <step21> Artelus: depends on what you want to use it for
[18:45] <quibbler> !wubi | Artelus
[18:45] <Artelus> there's an option to install/uninstall inside windows.
[18:45] <fearful> Artelus: If you want it just to mess around with it then yea
[18:45] <_VIM_> darkweasel: no
[18:46] <Artelus> I don't want to risk partitioning my drive to dual-boot Ubuntu, and I also don't want to run it from USB
[18:46] <mattbd> Artelus: Virtualbox is a good way to try it too
[18:46] <fearful> Artelus: If you want to work with the system, than I suggest you dualboot using grub.
[18:46] <darkweasel> then wubi is a good idea
[18:46] <fearful> Artelus: Than, yea wubi
[18:46] <Artelus> But I want to use ubuntu for like...browsing and stuff.
[18:46]  * nickrud votes for virtualbox over wubi any day
[18:46] <mattbd> Flannel: Sorry, I've only ever amended /etc/sudoers in other distros
[18:46] <step21> wubi will be faster thehn virtual box and use real hardware
[18:46] <fearful> Artelus: Wubi will install it using the Windows loader
[18:46]  * _VIM_ adds his vote for Vbox too
[18:46] <Artelus> I heard there is a bit of a performance decrese, does that mean ubuntu with wubi is slower than if I installed it on it's own, or is it just the hard drive?
[18:46] <fiftyone> Does anyone suggest I should try out KDE? I never really used KDE before I always been Gnome, What do you guys think>? Which is better / why?
[18:47] <quibbler> Artelus: yes
[18:47] <step21> Artelus: just harddrive
[18:47] <maxagaz> is there a command to stop the fan of my ATI 9600 gaphic card ?
[18:47] <fiftyone> I did try fluxbox but i could never figure it out and always screwed it up within minutes
[18:47] <fearful> Artelus: Yes but, if you want it to browse and stuff than its ok.
[18:47] <mattbd> Artelus: Wubi is slower because it's running on a Windows filesystem and not a native Linux one
[18:47] <nickrud> Artelus, if you are scrupulous about defragging before and after the install, it'll run about as fast as it can
[18:47] <mattbd> fiftone: I like IceWM
[18:47] <darkweasel> fiftyone, personally i prefer gnome - but just try it and see for yourself if you like it ;)
[18:47] <Artelus> Ah, so Ubuntu's speed is not decreased, just my hard drive while using wubi?
[18:47] <mattbd> Artelus: No
[18:48] <Artelus> Because I want to install Ubuntu to use as a full operating system, but I don't want to partition or anything...
[18:48] <darkweasel> well it can suffer from ntfs defragmentation, from what i've heard
[18:48] <fiftyone> darkewasel I think KDE is more windows es>? no? I mean what are the main differences>?
[18:48] <mattbd> Artelus. Windows uses the NTFS filesystem, Ubuntu uses ext3
[18:48] <G-Bleezy> Hey I got this problem booting and was wondering if someone coudl help me?
[18:48] <fearful> Artelus: Native linux uses ext3, while in Windows its either fat32 or ntfs. It'll be slower because of that
[18:48] <joanki124> is there anyway i can see the last time a user logged into my computer?  i think i've been hacked
[18:48] <darkweasel> G-Bleezy, please specify what your problem is
[18:48] <satchafunkilus> About one and a half years ago I stumbled upon a Linux game, still Beta at that time. But I can't remember it's name. You could draw let's say two circles, make them spin, put a box on them and there you made a car. There wasn't a deb for a game, you just extract it an play. I hope that someone can tell me the name of this game! ;)
[18:48] <G-Bleezy> when i boot it says:   Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown wn-block(0,0)
[18:48] <Artelus> alright...
[18:48] <G-Bleezy> anyone know how i could fix that?
[18:48] <Artelus> well, what's the risk of repartitioning my hard drive?
[18:48] <step21> i think he got that. but all drivers etc will work normally
[18:49] <jonah> my machine still will not play downloaded limewire songs :( but i like ubuntu and i wish it would work!
[18:49] <fearful> Artelus: If you want it just for browsing and playing around with it I suggest installing with wubi.
[18:49] <Artelus> I can partition my C drive to make it small, and give about  20GB to ubuntu, but will it mess anything up?
[18:49] <darkweasel> jonah, what format are they in?
[18:49] <fiftyone> satchafunkilus i know exactly what your talking about.
[18:49] <fiftyone> I played it too
[18:49] <mattbd> Artelus: How powerful is your machine? Virtualbox might be a better choice
[18:49] <fearful> Artelus: There is not a real risk if you can do it correctly. Read up on how to partition drives, theres many walk through
[18:49] <joanki124> can someone please helop me?
[18:49] <Artelus> It's not so good.
[18:49] <Flannel> mattbd: No worries
[18:49] <Artelus> 384MB ram, 3.1Ghz processor
[18:49] <fiftyone> i cant remember the name but 1 sec ii will look
[18:49] <jonah> mp3. lol. i installed the gstreamer mp3 plugin. no dice
[18:49] <Artelus> graphic card is average
[18:49] <step21> Artelus: i'd  just use wubi for now ... you can see if drivers etc work w/o risk
[18:49] <fearful> Artelus: I would go with Xubuntu then
[18:49] <Artelus> alright
[18:50] <mattbd> Artelus: OK, Virtualbox is definitely out
[18:50] <Artelus> Does Xubuntu work with wubi?
[18:50] <_VIM_> O.o all that processor and hardly no ram?
[18:50] <darkweasel> yes Artelus
[18:50] <_VIM_> ram is cheap!
[18:50] <fearful> lol
[18:50] <mattbd> Artelus: Wubi comes on Xubuntu and Kubuntu as well
[18:50] <darkweasel> joanki124, if nobody knows, nobody will answer - maybe the forums or mailing lists are a better place if you don't get an answer here
[18:50] <satchafunkilus> fiftyone: please send me a private msg, i'll be back in 5-10 min
[18:51] <jonah> when i try to play it i get the error mpeg audio header not found
[18:52] <jonah> on all the mp3's
[18:52] <matrix> hi all i have a file movie its .avi iam using deved to maake dvd, then it looks it will be an iso file, how do i burn it then to be a dvd disc so ican play it on my dvd player do i burn it as iso on gnome
[18:52] <fearful> matrix: Use basero to burn it
[18:52] <fearful> Brasero*
[18:53] <etech> are there  more start menus for gnome?
[18:53] <Mood> How do I make Ubuntu auto connect on wifi?
[18:53] <Mood> Everytime my wifi disconnects, I get a dialog that I have to manually connect to
[18:53] <Mood> I want to auto connect to my network
[18:54] <matrix> fearful:where is brasero
[18:54] <maxagaz> Intrepid doesn't suggest me to install proprietary drivers for my ATI 9600, why ?
[18:54] <matrix> ok i found it
[18:54] <fiftyone> how do you automount a drive? I have an 80gb and a 30gb partition i would like to auto-mount any ideas how>
[18:54] <diggid> mount--auto
[18:54] <energY> fiftyone: sudo apt-get install just-google-it
[18:55] <darkweasel> i think you have to edit something in /etc/fstab - but i don't know what exactly
[18:55] <matrix> fearful:iam in brasero what to choose there there are 4 options
[18:55] <IntuitiveNipple> fiftyone: If they are on a fixed disk you'll need to add entries to /etc/fstab describing them, and a directory to mount them on (usually in /media/ or /mnt/)
[18:56] <IntuitiveNipple> fiftyone: If they are removable devices (hot plug or USB) then gnome-mount should detect and mount them when connected, unless that option is turned off
[18:56] <fiftyone> IntuitiveNipple, thanks alot man i appriciate it
[18:56] <Peteed> in python after you use a file, does it close it down stright after?
[18:56] <scientes> anyone want to help me rebuild a specific kernel module from the intrepid tree?
[18:56] <matrix> fearful:iam in brasero what to choose there there are 4 options
[18:56] <darkweasel> matrix, i'd suggest "video project"
[18:56] <darkweasel> or whatever that's called in the english version
[18:56] <darkweasel> i only got the german version here and i'm translating that myself :p
[18:56] <Xenos> Man! That was horrible. Everything suddenly zoomed in a*lot* and I found no way to exit that. had to logout :-/
[18:56] <Artelus> Hey
[18:56] <[biabia]> I removed the kde/kubuntu desktop and it still shows the splash screen for kubuntu on startup. where are those stored? or how can i get it to stop showing the kubuntu splash
[18:57] <Artelus> what's the best way to shrink the windows partition and create a new partition?
[18:57] <matrix> i have datproject,burnimage,soundproject,cdcopy
[18:57] <_VIM_> Xenos: ive done that more than ill admit :)
[18:57] <skate2> are there any amazing windows applications that dont work at all in ubuntu or have a decent counterpart
[18:57] <darkweasel> [biabia], install startup-manager, it allows you to choose the splash screen
[18:57] <_VIM_> they SERIOUSLY need to fix that zoom
[18:57] <Xenos> _VIM_: What is it? And why the hell doesn't escape quit it?
[18:57] <[biabia]> darkweasel: ok thanks
[18:57] <juggalorebor> hello all
[18:57] <_VIM_> Xenos: wish i knew
[18:57] <Xenos> _VIM_: Annoying as all hell :-/
[18:57] <refdef> Hey guys. I have a mobo from an hp pc and i cant find out online if it is compatible with core 2 duo but it is socket 775.  What would happen if i put my c2d cpu on it and it wasnt compatible? Would anything be damaged or would it be safe to try? Thanks
[18:58] <juggalorebor> have you tried google?
[18:58] <Artelus> What's the safest way to shrink the windows partition and make another one for linux?
[18:59] <wbagam> partitionmagic or any partition manager will work
[18:59] <[biabia]> i personally boot ubuntu live and use gparted
[18:59] <juggalorebor> i personally use Gparted
[18:59] <juggalorebor> its free
[18:59] <Artelus> Will it be safe to use?
[19:00] <juggalorebor> never let me down
[19:00] <darkweasel> if you pay attention to what you do, yes
[19:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Artelus: If the NTFS partition has Vista in it, Windows disk-management allows you to shrink the file-system inside a partition whilst it is running. Then the partition can be shrunk to fit that from gparted or similar
[19:00] <[biabia]> safe is a relative term when partitioning. it will do what you tell it
[19:00] <GreenHorn> LIRC=headache :(
[19:00] <Artelus> I have Vista in it
[19:00] <Artelus> Well, what could go wrong?
[19:00] <blip-> hi, i have ssh access to an ubuntu machine with sudo superpowers.   I need to remove admin privs from a user,  I ran "sudo visudo" which opened up a file... but that file doesn't contain that user's name... where is he defined as admin ?
[19:00] <quibbler> Artelus: and defrag it first
[19:00] <Artelus> I just did :)
[19:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Artelus: Use Windows disk management then... in disk management select the file-system and right-click... there is an option to resize
[19:01] <klasikahl> blip-: the user can sudo because they're in the admin (or wheel) group
[19:01] <Artelus> What can go wrong? any warnings i should know about?
[19:01] <klasikahl> blip-: sounds like your sudo powers are defined by group
[19:01] <[biabia]> Artelus: if you tell it to do the wrong thing, thinking its what you wanted
[19:01]  * juggalorebor invokes rule 34 on his Video Driver
[19:01] <joanki125> anyone know a cmd i can type into terminal to get everyone that has recently logged into my machine - every single user?
[19:01] <Artelus> Like what?
[19:01] <klasikahl> blip-: `man usermod` to see how to remove him from the group
[19:01] <klasikahl> joanki125: recently or currently?
[19:01] <quibbler> Artelus: it is always good to back things up
[19:02] <joanki125> recently
[19:02] <joanki125> and also to see what users there are on my system?
[19:02] <Artelus> I can't really back up 70GB of data... =p
[19:02] <_VIM_> joanki125: again the user logs should tell you that, or did you have no luck with logs yesterday?
[19:02] <_VIM_> joanki125: the who command
[19:02] <klasikahl> joanki125: `who`
[19:02] <joanki125> no _VIM_
[19:02] <klasikahl> joanki125: for currently logged in
[19:03] <_VIM_> ah well for now try 'who'
[19:03] <joanki125> klasikahl: for previously logged in?
[19:03] <klasikahl> joanki125: /var/log/auth.log is the log of authenticated sessions
[19:03] <joanki125> thanks klas
[19:03] <Artelus> I don't see an option to resize....I'm using XP home edition
[19:03] <Royall> Every time I open the file selection window with buttons like "Browse" in applications or on websites, the window comes up tiny, and I have to drag the corner to make it normal size. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:03] <klasikahl> joanki125: take a look at /var/log/auth.log.. whatever editor you prefer, or `less`
[19:04] <juggalorebor> I currently run Ubuntu in my Virtual box, if i wanted to put it on my hard drive, will grub automatically change my mbr so i have options for both at startup?
[19:04] <joanki125> klasikahl: so that helped, but it only goes back to february 4
[19:04] <joanki125> is there a farther back log?
[19:04] <joanki125> thanks by the way
[19:04] <klasikahl> joanki125: yes
[19:04] <klasikahl> joanki125: logrotate compresses your logs and puts them in archive mode
[19:04] <klasikahl> joanki125: ls /var/log/auth.log*
[19:05] <klasikahl> joanki125: to read the ones with .gz extension, do `gunzip <log>`
[19:05] <klasikahl> joanki125: then use your viewer
[19:05] <JamesA_> !ssl
[19:05] <nickrud> joanki125, or zless /var/log/authlog*
[19:05] <joanki125> i'm concerned because i found this on mjy system under history: http://pastebin.com/d720a59e2
[19:06] <Xenos> _VIM_: It's windows button+mouse scrollwheel :-/
[19:06] <alltax> any one know how I can get Xfig to support latin-1?
[19:06] <_VIM_> Xenos: sweet i'll write that one down, most annoying wasnt it? LOL, thank you :)
[19:07] <Xenos> _VIM_: Yup, it was :-P
[19:07] <garrett__> hey guys, i am in need of some help
[19:07] <garrett__> plz
[19:07] <quibbler> garrett__: shoot
[19:08] <fearful> garrett_: Ask away
[19:08] <_VIM_> Xenos: the windows key is the Super key in linux donno if you knew that or not :)
[19:09] <garrett__> thanks man, umm is there a guide for installing the newest kernel (2.6.29 i think) or could you give me the gist of compiling and installing it in a few steps?
[19:09] <klasikahl> garrett__: you know, 2.6.29 is a devel version.  not meant for everyday use
[19:09] <stefg> !kernel | garrett__
[19:09] <klasikahl> garrett__: odd version  numbers mean testing
[19:10] <Xenos> _VIM_: In certain portions of Ubuntuspeak, I guess. It's got a Windows logo on my computer though, so calling it the "Windows button" makes a bit more sense IMO :-P
[19:11] <sheena1> hey all. where can i find my "profile folder" for firefox in ubuntu 8.10?
[19:11] <Dr_willis> Ive seen keyboards with little "Tux Penguins" instead of the windows logo.
[19:11] <darkweasel> go to your home folder sheena1
[19:11] <garrett__> yes, i do understand that it isn't release ready, but I have a few issues with hardware that may be addressed(from what i read) and I just wanted to try it
[19:11] <darkweasel> and press ctrl-h
[19:11] <Dr_willis> sheena1,  its in .mozilla/ somewhere. :)
[19:11] <MoTec> Dr_willis: I think it's under ~/.mozilla
[19:11] <darkweasel> then there's a folder .mozilla
[19:11] <klasikahl> garrett__: interesting... 2.6.28 didn't give you the fixes you needed?
[19:11] <MoTec> Dr_willis: sorry, wrong person
[19:11] <sheena1> oh! Lots of folders in there, darkweasel! I didn't see them before
[19:11] <_VIM_> Xenos: I stuck a pic of a penguin over my win key for that very reason
[19:11] <_VIM_> :D
[19:11] <Xenos> hehe
[19:12] <jonstetler1> does anyone have a idea why I would be having problems shutting down ubuntu? when i shutdown I get a really colorful screen?
[19:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:12] <garrett__> not really, it's a toshiba laptop and the audio chip isn't supported on 2.6.28
[19:12] <MoTec> my keyboard is so old it doesn't even have a windows or penguin key :)  only piece of hardware i've been using constantly since the 1980s :)
[19:12] <quibbler> i've programmed my "Windows button" to bring up a terminal...so at least it's good for something
[19:13] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: try typing 'sudo shutdown -P now'
[19:13] <sheena1> darkweasel, i found the .mozilla folder, and went into the firefox folder, and i see two things. one is "profiles.ini" and the other is "bl9b06q7.default".. which is the one i want to change?
[19:13] <_VIM_> haha quibbler
[19:13] <darkweasel> the bl9b one
[19:13] <JohnAlpha> Anyone care to help me troubleshoot some wireless issues with a Linksys WRT54G?
[19:13] <darkweasel> i.e. the one with the random symbols
[19:14] <garrett__> @JohnAlpha: I'll try to help if I can
[19:15] <sheena1> darkweasel: thanks so much. I hope that fixed it! :)
[19:15] <JohnAlpha> garrett: Thanks, I'm pretty clueless since I have no real experience with wireless.
[19:15] <jonstetler1> garrett_: like when I go to shutdown the computer?
[19:15] <MoTec> JohnAlpha: what's wrong with the wrt54g?
[19:15] <JohnAlpha> garrett: I set it up when my laptop had Vista on it, and I just formatted it to Ubuntu, installed the wireless card driver.
[19:16] <garrett__> @jonstetler: yes, exactly
[19:16] <MoTec> I have a small army of those deployed :)
[19:16] <JohnAlpha> Ubuntu sees my router's SSID and when I go to connect, it asks for the password.
[19:16] <MoTec> JohnAlpha: That will be the wireless encryption key it wants, not the router's password.
[19:16] <JohnAlpha> I give the password, specifying WPA & WPA 2 Personal (the router is using WPA) and after attempting to connect for a minute or two, it fails.
[19:17] <JohnAlpha> MoTec: Okay, I'll try that.
[19:17] <garrett__> ok, what type of computer is it? laptop/desktop?
[19:17] <ameed> Hello , How can i find the best Virtual Machine for Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[19:17] <garrett__> www.vmware.com
[19:17] <MoTec> ameed: virtualbox
[19:17] <jonstetler1> garret_: AI still get the same screen... and the computer doesn't shutdown...
[19:17] <atlef> !virtualbox | ameed
[19:17] <MoTec> heh, yes.. pick one.. vmware or virtualbox :)
[19:18] <ameed> Thank You guys .
[19:18] <garrett__> @jonstetler: seriously? hold on, let me look at something real quick
[19:18] <IntuitiveNipple> ameed: You might want to consider the kernel VM, KVM. It is based on QEMU but uses hardware support to make things run almost as fast as native
[19:19] <jonstetler1> garrett_: ok
[19:19] <mois> ll
[19:19] <etech> hi
[19:19] <fearful> hi
[19:19] <etech> does epiphany use  webkit?
[19:19] <klasikahl> hai
[19:19] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: what exactly happens when you run that command?
[19:20] <garrett__> hey etech!!
[19:20] <melvinm_> does anyone know any good IDE for programming in C???
[19:20] <JohnAlpha> No luck. I entered the WPA shared key into that field and I still can't seem to connect.
[19:20] <etech> garrett__, hi
[19:20] <MoTec> melvinm_: eclipse
[19:20] <garrett__> @melvinm: Notepad?
[19:20] <IntuitiveNipple> melvinm_: lightweight or heavy-weight? Eclipse CDT is good
[19:20] <_VIM_> notepad? VIM!
[19:20] <_VIM_> :D
[19:20] <garrett__> hahahaha
[19:21] <melvinm_> I'll try eclipse
[19:21] <IntuitiveNipple> melvinm_: lightweight there is anjuta
[19:21] <melvinm_> thank you
[19:21] <jonstetler1> garrett_: it exited the GUI and went to a ubuntu loading bar, went the bar reaches empty then the screen goes crazy and sits there like that
[19:21] <JamesA_> !windows
[19:22] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: ok, when that bar empties(is clear) try pressing the power button again...
[19:22] <jonstetler1> garrett_: just push it don't hold it right?
[19:22] <funkylarge> how do you auto mount the windows partition?
[19:23] <atlef> !mount | funkylarge
[19:23] <JohnAlpha> Any other ideas? I also notice that under Network Connections, if I edit the settings for that connection, the BSSID and MAC addresses fields are blank. Not sure if I need anything for those.
[19:23] <IntuitiveNipple> funkylarge: Add it to /etc/fstab so the system knows about it
[19:23] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: yeah, if that doesn't work, let me know(maybe we should pm)
[19:24] <MoTec> JohnAlpha: If you have no other wireless clients active you can always reset the WPA key.
[19:24] <funkylarge> intuitivenipple how can i do that
[19:24] <jonstetler1> garrett_: the other problem I;m having is when it does that and I have to hold the power button down to shut it off, it has problems restarting...
[19:24] <hp> hello
[19:24] <hp> hello people
[19:24] <hp> Mi Name is Jairo
[19:24] <stefg> !fstab | funkylarge
[19:25] <MoTec> no people here.. just clever perl scripts.
[19:25] <hp> Im am From MEXICO UBUNTU 2009
[19:25] <hp> I need you help ---
[19:25] <stefg> MoTec: would you rather see dumb perl scripts? ... yelling rtfm or stfu at you ? :-)
[19:26] <MoTec> stefg: heh
[19:26] <jonstetler1> garrett_:lol now it won't start up....
[19:26] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: ok, well here, go to your terminal and type 'sudo gedit /etc/modules' and add 'apm power_off=1' and that may help
[19:26] <JohnAlpha> MoTec: What would be the easiest way to do it? Like I said, I'm completely clueless with routers...
[19:26] <garrett__> oh shiz, like at all?
[19:27] <MoTec> JohnAlpha: Can you log on to the router's web interface?
[19:27] <JohnAlpha> Yeah, I'm there now from my desktop machine.
[19:27] <quibbler> !ask | hp
[19:27] <wikkedfin> Hi i have a question about ubuntu server 8.04-2 i installed eggdrop via apt-get where the heck is the scripts and the config for it?
[19:27] <MoTec> JohnAlpha: http://yann.typepad.com/yann/wrt-setup.png
[19:27] <MoTec> it's under wireless - wireless security
[19:28] <jonstetler1> garrett_:its sitting at boot from (hd0) ext3... won't load in.. it might not ubuntu.. could it be something with my hdd?
[19:28] <MoTec> probably want WPA Personal w/TKIP
[19:28] <MoTec> That screenshot shows radius.. you don't want that
[19:28] <JohnAlpha> MoTec: So then I just enter something else for the key?
[19:28] <MoTec> JohnAlpha: yep
[19:29] <MoTec> JohnAlpha: This will break any other wireless clients 'till you configure them with the new key, also.
[19:29] <antisense> Hey there... I understand Windows 7 and Wubi don't get along - but would it work if I installed it inside Windows Vista? (am booting W7 and Vista currently and have no more primary partitions available) - as in a triple-boot of Vista, Ubuntu and Windows 7?
[19:29] <funkylarge> !partitions
[19:29] <JohnAlpha> MoTec: That's fine, it's just a personal router and I only have one laptop to connect wirelessly. I'm changing the key now.
[19:30] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: that may be your ubuntu getting corrupted...try booting into "Safe Mode" and repair it
[19:30] <hp> my questions is i not configure mi web cam .. mi kernel is Linux hp-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic #1
[19:30] <hp> mi web is Bus 004 Device 009: ID 0c45:602c Microdia Clas Ohlson TWC-30XOP WebCam
[19:30] <hp> im not watching -- watchin gree
[19:30] <arvind_khadri> hp, you need the .27 kernel ... the same model here :)
[19:30] <jonstetler1> garrett_: how to I boot into safe mode?
[19:30] <bobbycheetah> is it possible to change the middle mouse button paste function to the right mouse button? if so, how?
[19:30] <NicEXE> how can I mount /that/file.img to /unother/folder ?
[19:31] <jonstetler1> garrett_: I have no options where its stopped at...
[19:31] <arvind_khadri> NicEXE, you mean move .... use mv
[19:31] <Sirect> Hi Guys
[19:31] <arvind_khadri> !hi | Sirect
[19:31] <tibrox> can someone tell me how to make LD_LIBRARY_PATH available for all apps and not just for bash, please? I'm using intrepid.
[19:31] <MoTec> NicEXE: mount -o loop /that/file.img /unother/folder
[19:32] <garrett__> @jonstetlet1: when you see "GRUB Loading" in the top left corner before it says "booting from hd0" press Escape
[19:32] <JohnAlpha> MoTec: It worked! Thanks so much for your help!
[19:32] <hp> im  have a change Kernel ??
[19:32] <NicEXE> MoTec: thanks
[19:32] <MoTec> JohnAlpha: You're welcome.  Enjoy
[19:32] <hp> 8.04 a ubuntu 8.10 ??
[19:32] <arvind_khadri> NicEXE, sorry misunderstood
[19:32] <funkylarge> wats the command line for opening the /etc/fstab file and make a backup
[19:32] <arvind_khadri> hp, ya....
[19:32] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: basically press Escape as the bootloader is loading
[19:32] <MoTec> NicEXE: I know that works for .iso files and I believe it'll work for .img.. might be wrong however.
[19:32] <Flannel> funkylarge: Just open it in a text editor
[19:32] <Sirect> Im a beginner in  Ubuntu and I wanted to ask wheter there is any way to completly remove my Audio-Drivers. I tried Alsa and OSS, but both were not working with my Headset. I tried several Tutorials, but none was working. So I would like to remove all the stuff to replace it with new ones?
[19:33] <deany> NicEXE, also there is gmountiso if you want a GUI
[19:33] <funkylarge> i thought you need some root access to open and edit those files
[19:33] <jonstetler1> garrett_: then boot to the (recovery mode) ?
[19:33] <atlef_> funkylarge: gksu gedit
[19:33] <arvind_khadri> funkylarge, gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[19:33] <DIL> so sudo gedit ....
[19:33] <stefg> antisense: why not make backups (the ones you have are too old anyway :-) ) and repartition you hard disk properly and forget wubi?... ubuntu doesn't need a primary partiton and will happily live on some spare 10 Gigs inside an extended partition
[19:33] <NicEXE> MoTec: It worked!
[19:33] <MoTec> NicEXE: Glad I could help
[19:34] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: yes, exactly
[19:34] <arvind_khadri> !gksu > DIL
[19:34] <DIL> yea
[19:34] <BUGabundo> guys sorry for the spam
[19:34] <BUGabundo> but please visit http://www.chamap.net/
[19:34] <anom01y> is it worthwhile upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 ?
[19:34] <BUGabundo> it is so much fun!
[19:34] <stefg> anom01y: depends ...
[19:35] <MoTec> BUGabundo: it's spam and then appologize, not appoligize then spam.
[19:35] <anom01y>  I run xfce , and everything is running smooth already.
[19:35] <DIL> 3
[19:35] <DIL> 4
[19:35] <anom01y> stefg, what is the major difference ?
[19:35] <NicEXE> how can I copy all the containing files and folders from /here to /somewhere
[19:35] <Kryzler> anom01y I upgraded, to 8.10 and I've had very few problems, and it generally runs no problem
[19:36] <jonstetler1> garrett_: ok that got me back up and running
[19:36] <Zero__> Hi There
[19:36] <BUGabundo> ok MoTec eheh
[19:36] <Slart> NicEXE: mv has a recursive switch I think.. man mv would tell you more
[19:36] <BUGabundo> but its so fun, I had to share
[19:36] <anom01y> would it fix the xfce crashes when you switch users?
[19:36] <Slart> BUGabundo: it's not an excuse.. go tell the people in #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[19:36] <pepsiman> Hey all, I have a question. How to stay in runlevel 3, but with X shut down.
[19:36] <MoTec> cp -r /here /somewhere
[19:36] <stefg> anom01y: no major difference... if you have an old nvidia card (glx-legacy) don't upgrade.
[19:37] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: did you get the full boot version back?
[19:37] <NicEXE> ty
[19:37] <Slart> NicEXE: sorry..mv is move not copy.. cp is copy
[19:37] <BUGabundo> thanks Slart
[19:37] <BUGabundo> will do
[19:37] <MoTec> might need cp -r /here/* /somwhere
[19:37] <MoTec> I forget the exact syntax every time :)
[19:37] <Slart> NicEXE: think about if you need to preserve permissions.. I think there is a switch for that too
[19:38] <jonstetler1> garret_: yeah
[19:38] <borys> czacho
[19:38] <_VIM_> !pl
[19:38] <Slart> !pl | borys
[19:38] <jonstetler1> garrett_: I'm in the /etc/modules now. you say I need to add something to this file?
[19:39] <HappySmileMan> Does anyone know the package needed for OpenGL development?
[19:39] <jcn_ubuntu> i just put ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop post xp and i can only boot ubuntu when i am inserting the live-cd, selecting start from hd and then selecting ubuntu at the grub menu
[19:39] <jcn_ubuntu> when i try to boot ubuntu without the detour over the livecd menu, the pc just reboots after choosing ubuntu at grub
[19:39] <HappySmileMan> I would've assumed something like opengl-dev
[19:39] <jcn_ubuntu> what gives?
[19:40] <hp> not Work.. the Webcam
[19:40] <borys> co tam slychac
[19:40] <alaz> jcn_ubuntu, you put in the correct boot order?
[19:40] <jonstetler1> garrett_: I need to add the " apm power_off=1"?
[19:40] <Slart> borys: this channel is english only.. go to #ubuntu-pl
[19:40] <arvind_khadri> hp, you need the .27 kernel
[19:40] <jcn_ubuntu> i tried setting boot from hd first in the bios
[19:40] <_VIM_> borys: type /join #ubuntu-pl
[19:40] <jcn_ubuntu> but then i cant get ubuntu to boot at all
[19:40] <hp> ok tks Arwind
[19:40] <jcn_ubuntu> also
[19:40] <alaz> jcn_ubuntu, must be something wrong with your bootloader then
[19:40] <jcn_ubuntu> even when it boots, it still reads from the disc and it looks like its getting alot of read errors, but in the end booting up fine
[19:41] <jcn_ubuntu> doesn't sound to good
[19:41]  * _VIM_ stops echoing Slart .... get out of my head Slart !! ;)
[19:41] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: yes, that was what fixed it for me
[19:41] <nectar> hey guys
[19:41] <nectar> i need some help
[19:41] <Slart> _VIM_: I thought it was the other way around =)
[19:41] <biouser> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source; E: Package flashplugin-nonfree-pulse has no installation candidate
[19:41] <jcn_ubuntu> any info on how i can check grub?
[19:41] <nectar> can someone help me with http://paste.ubuntu.com/115750/
[19:41] <antisense> anyone have an idea if installing Wubi _from inside Windows Vista_ would work when I'm currently dual-booting Vista and Windows 7? :)
[19:41] <_VIM_> Slart: it was easier to blame you :PPPP
[19:41] <jonstetler1> garrett_: does it matter where I add that?
[19:42] <Slart> antisense: I don't think wubi cares about dual booting.. but I'm not sure.. I haven't even tried wubi
[19:42] <russia213> I tried install Ubuntu on my external but that didn't work out, now I have it on my internal, what filesystem should I partition the external HDD to so both windows and Ubuntu can identify it?
[19:42] <antisense> hmm, I see. I'd use a real partition but am already up to four primary ones
[19:42] <_VIM_> nectar: type that all on one line you cannot expect people to scroll up and read 3 seperate lines
[19:42] <borys> english problem
[19:42] <arooni_____> do i want to do a partial update?  i'm seeing:  "not all updates can be installed; run a partial upgrade to install as many updates as possible".... moving from hardy to ibex
[19:43] <Flannel> borys: /join #ubuntu-pl
[19:43] <Slart> borys: type /join #ubuntu-pl
[19:43] <quibbler> russia213: ntfs
[19:43] <russia213> Quibbler: Thank you
[19:43] <borys> i don`t speake english
[19:43] <arooni_____> upgrade that is
[19:43] <jonstetler1> garrett_: I got an error " Response Null in 'reply_add_sta' " ?
[19:43] <_VIM_> sudo mv borys /#ubuntu-pl
[19:43] <_VIM_> :D
[19:44] <garrett__> @jonstetler1: hmm, hold a sec
[19:44] <Flannel> borys: say /join #ubuntu-pl
[19:44] <quibbler> borys: what language do you speak
[19:44] <jonstetler1> garrett_: ok
[19:45] <Guisepe> helo
[19:46] <Slart> ok, borys is taken care of.. =)
[19:46] <johan12> is it hard to install a new font in ubuntu?
[19:46] <Slart> johan12: no
[19:46] <vigo> Slart: that was nice.
[19:46] <johan12> Slart: how?
[19:46] <Dr_willis> johan12,  copy the file to /home/username/.fonts and its done.. i think :)
[19:46] <Flannel> !fonts | johan12
[19:46] <Slart> johan12: make a folder called .fonts in your home folder.. copy the font file there
[19:47] <[TiZ]> Hi. My notifications have stopped working. They're not appearing anymore. Can anyone help me fix it?
[19:47] <MarkusT> Is there a reliable source on whether 2.6.28 or 2.5.29 will be Jaunty's kernel? I found a few discussions, but nothing official.
[19:47] <Renfield> I am attempting to install Ubuntu from a minimal CD. I am at the install base system. It failed. The error message I get is: base-installer: error: exiting on error base-installer/debootstrap-failed
[19:47] <MarkusT> *2.6.29, of course
[19:48] <Flannel> MarkusT: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions, thanks
[19:48] <testrtest1> Hey guys just had a quick question. I have an hp machine which i wanted to upgrade but could find barely any info online about its motherboard. It has a 775 socket with a p4 chip in it and i wanted to know if there was any risk in putting a core 2 duo on it. I mean, if it is not compatible is there any danger of any damage being done? There is the possibility that it is compatible though. Thanks
[19:48] <MarkusT> Flannel: Thank!
[19:48] <stefg> testrtest1: #hardware
[19:49] <true\false> How fussy should I be when installing updates on a netbook?
[19:49] <[TiZ]> Hi. My notifications have stopped working. They're not appearing anymore. Can anyone help me fix it?
[19:49] <Renfield> What steps do I need to take now, after install base system has failed?
[19:50] <MoTec> testrtest1: download and run belarc advisor on it.  (windows program) it'll tell you all about it.
[19:50] <Kokloco> Hi all
[19:51] <Kokloco> I installed Thunderbird in oirder to access my company's Exchange serverusing IMAP. It is working fine but I have to issues: a) I can't see my Inbox Folders where my rules forward incomming messages, and b) I can't access to public Folders. Can anyone help me with this? thanks
[19:51] <helpgoingnuts> does anyone know where i can find cfdisk in ubuntu?
[19:52] <Dr_willis> !info cfdisk
[19:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm oddd.
[19:52] <Dr_willis> !find cfdisk
[19:52] <MoTec> weird
[19:52] <Dr_willis>  gnu-fdisk package  - would be my guess..
[19:52] <pyk> helpgoingnuts: util-linux
[19:52] <stefg> helpgoingnuts: it's in the base-utils... comes with the base install
[19:53] <Dr_willis> if ya type 'cfdisk' at the terminal - it may tell you also.
[19:53] <helpgoingnuts> can i run from live cd?
[19:53] <stefg> helpgoingnuts: sure
[19:53] <Dr_willis> You can alwyas install apps on thelive cd.  if ya got the ram
[19:53] <helpgoingnuts> thx
[19:53] <exodus_ms> helpgoingnuts, why would you want to get away from it
[19:53] <MoTec> helpgoingnuts: consider gparted, too...
[19:53] <Slart> Kokloco: I think you can select what folders you want to see using imap.. I can't really remember where but it's there someplace.. I have no idea how public folders work in exchange
[19:53] <MoTec> helpgoingnuts: expecially if you're running from the live cd
[19:53] <Slart> Kokloco: I don't think they use the imap system.. but I'm really just guessing
[19:54] <stefg> MoTec: cfdisk does in fact generate a healthy partition table... gparted doesn't in most cases
[19:54] <[TiZ]> Hi. My notifications have stopped working. They're not appearing anymore. Can anyone help me fix it?
[19:55] <DIL> [TiZ]: try adding  it back rt clik menu bar andd notification
[19:55] <MoTec> stefg: that'd be a significant drawback for a disk partitioning tool.
[19:55] <Antioch> Does anyone know a repo where I can get new versions of Banshee? The current version is 1.4.2 but Ubuntu's stock repos only have 1.2.1
[19:55] <[TiZ]> DIL: What? I didn't understand that at all.
[19:55] <DIL> [TiZ]: yea
[19:55] <helpgoingnuts> hmm in terminal when I run cfdisk it shows fatal error: cannot open disk drive, any key to exit.  and with gparted it says root privileges are required, since gparted can be a weapon of mass destruction
[19:56] <Kokloco> Slart, OK thanks. I have a lot of problems trying to access my company's email server. They are all Windows Guys, and the use all that stuff of public folders, public agenda, bla bla bla, and they are expecting all their employees to do so.. I am free to use Linux in my computer if that doesnt interfier my job..And so far Evolution doesnt work as it is expected, and no more tools outthere
[19:56] <Slart> helpgoingnuts: run it as "gksudo gparted"
[19:56] <DIL> [TiZ]: try adding  it back right click on panel and add notification
[19:56] <helpgoingnuts> k
[19:56] <Slart> helpgoingnuts: you need to be root to change system stuff.. gksudo and sudo does that
[19:56] <Cpudan80> Use gksudo with GUIs
[19:56] <Cpudan80> sudo with guis can cause troubles
[19:56]  * nickrud considers chiming in, but nah
[19:57] <agathe> etbijz
[19:57] <MoTec> you need to specifiy the disk on the command line with cfdisk like:  cfdisk /dev/hda
[19:57] <ezerhoden> what ever happened to sux ?
[19:57] <MoTec> Kokloco: do they have OWA setup?  That might be a way to go.
[19:57] <Slart> Kokloco: I don't know how to do that.. microsoft is all hush hush with their systems and protocols.. last I heard evolution was the best client out there.. not sure if there is anything else
[19:57] <ezerhoden> !sux
[19:58] <[TiZ]> DIL: I think there's a communication issue. Are you not very good with english? When I say notification, I mean the little boxes that pop up in the corner or near the notifi- OH! That's what you mean. My notification area is still there. I mean the popup boxes.
[19:58] <MoTec> OWA=Outlook Web Access
[19:58] <nickrud> ezerhoden, if that means   set up X , debian/ubuntu never had that
[19:58] <ezerhoden> sux - wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials
[19:58] <[TiZ]> Sorry. :x
[19:58] <adac> which tool can scan for samba shares on a certain ip range?
[19:58] <Kokloco> MoTec, yes I have a webmail option (OWA) but from Firefox it is very ugly, and you cant paste things just write plane text
[19:58] <spass> adac: sambascan2
[19:58] <helpgoingnuts> someone told me to run cfdisk with linux, since my problm is when i was reinstalling winxp i only wanted to delete my partition with my OS files, but instead when i press D once it deleted all my partitions
[19:58] <DIL> [TiZ]: me nuh no wat iz ingisl sury dunt unna stan
[19:58] <nickrud> !info sux
[19:58] <spass> adac: uses nmap to scan
[19:58] <[TiZ]> DIL: XD
[19:58] <MoTec> adac: nmap
[19:59] <nickrud> ezerhoden, it's there; but su doesn't work in ubuntu unless you explicitly enable a root account
[19:59] <ezerhoden> gotcha
[19:59] <anom01y> does running adept manager as super user cause x to crash if you switch users ?
[19:59] <Dr_willis> I tend to use 'sux' a lot :)
[19:59] <helpgoingnuts> so now i didnt format yet, but i have one big unallocated Unpartioned space.  how do i restore the file table structure back the way it was?
[19:59]  * nickrud never uses a tool that someone could turn on him, verbally
[20:00] <[TiZ]> I'll just restart and hope it works.
[20:00] <meoblast001> hello
[20:00] <Kokloco> I think I am going to install Outlook 2003 under Wine, it is the only soulution I see now
[20:00] <MoTec> adac: something like:  nmap -p 139 192.168.1-10
[20:00] <meoblast001> i just bought a bluetooth adapter and need help setting it up
[20:00] <nickrud> Dr_willis, there was a day that I wish I'd known about sux though
[20:00] <stefg> helpgoingnuts: you're probably more intrested in testdisk
[20:00] <borys> co
[20:00] <meoblast001> i clicked the bluetooth icon on the notification area and told it to setup my device... it told me to select the device i want but the device list is empty
[20:00] <helpgoingnuts> stefg: ok...
[20:00] <stefg> !testdisk | helpgoingnuts
[20:00] <ezerhoden> Dr_willis: i think we are moving offtopic, but sux is almost as good as man pump, but alast dhclient has done away with that fun
[20:01] <stefg> !info testdisk | helpgoingnuts
[20:01] <adac> MoTec, spass thx guys I will try it out!
[20:01] <sorin7486> meoblast001:  have you activated bluetooth on the device ?
[20:01] <meoblast001> sorin7486, ti's a bluetooth adapter.... USB
[20:01] <helpgoingnuts> stefg: how do i run that?
[20:02] <garrett__> with sudo then your program
[20:02] <sorin7486> meoblast001: yes but I presume you want to use it to connect to a phone
[20:02] <sorin7486> meoblast001: or some other device
[20:02] <meoblast001> sorin7486, no
[20:02] <meoblast001> sorin7486, to a headset
[20:02] <helpgoingnuts> bash testdisk command not found
[20:03] <meoblast001> sorin7486, how do i know ubuntu is properly using the bluetooth device?
[20:03] <sorin7486> meoblast001: if the bluetooth icon appears that means the USB adaptor was probably recognised
[20:03] <meoblast001> oh wait.. it found the device
[20:03] <meoblast001> and the headset
[20:03] <stefg> helpgoingnuts: you'd need to install it. but if you are on a recovery mission you should  rather use a specialized recue distro like system rescue cd or parted magic... not an ubuntu install CD
[20:03] <helpgoingnuts> oh, ok.  yes I do need to recover
[20:03] <helpgoingnuts> so would that mean I need another harddrive to transfer? I cant do it all on this drive?
[20:04] <helpgoingnuts> because this drive is full of files
[20:04] <sorin7486> meoblast001: I've never used bluetooth with a headset ... I have been using it to transfer files to a phone and it's pretty straight forward
[20:04] <CarlFK> how do I turn off the cpu freq scaling thing?  (so that it doesn't slow down, cuz that messes up realtime video encoding)
[20:05] <silidan> ﻿hi, im not sure im in the right chat, but ill just ask:  Is it possible to link 2 pc over sata II ?
[20:05] <eut> CarlFK, kill the power saving applets/daemons
[20:05] <helpgoingnuts> somebody there? :(
[20:05] <CarlFK> helpgoingnuts: http://www.clonezilla.org - it can backup a drive over lan, usb, etc.
[20:05] <Slart> silidan: It's possible, yes... but I haven't heard of anyone doing it
[20:05] <helpgoingnuts> over lan eh? hmm...
[20:05] <DIL> dcfldd wir air imager
[20:05] <CarlFK> eut: i need it more permanently, so that I don't have to do it each time I reboot
[20:06] <DIL> dcfldd with air imager
[20:06] <silidan> Slart: can you give more details or a hint to a discussion / howto?
[20:06] <eut> CarlFK, look at the /etc/init.d scripts, there should be one in there for the power saving stuff
[20:06] <mike8888> hi guys..
[20:06] <talntid> I used my 16gb thumb drive on a WindowsME computer... now Ubuntu only mounts it read-only... any ideas?
[20:07] <Slart> silidan: it's possible in the same way as building a 200 meter long car out of tooth picks...
[20:07] <eut> talntid, mount /dev/whatever /media/usb -o umask=000
[20:07] <testrtest1> Hey guys just had a quick question. I have an hp machine which i wanted to upgrade but could find barely any info online about its motherboard. It has a 775 socket with a p4 chip in it and i wanted to know if there was any risk in putting a core 2 duo on it. I mean, if it is not compatible is there any danger of any damage being done? There is the possibility that it is compatible though. Thanks
[20:07] <Slart> silidan: I have no idea how one would do it.. but I guess it would take at least a couple of months to build the hardware and write some kind of driver for it..
[20:07] <sorin7486> silidan: I think you might have more luck on a hardware channel :)
[20:07] <TTT_Travis> testrtest1 not really the right channel, but whats the model number?
[20:08] <silidan> well i imagine that it wouldn not require any special hardware
[20:08] <spass> testrtest1: check mobo specification
[20:08] <testrtest1> ttt_travis, thanks. its an hp dx2200 the motherboard is msi-0a48 it has ati radeon xpress 200
[20:08] <sorin7486> silidan: you're right but it would require some kernel hacking
[20:08] <testrtest1> spass cant find much info onlnie
[20:08] <Slart> silidan: then it seems you know more about sata and how it communicates than I do
[20:08] <silidan> yes, thats why im asking around.... in hope to find someone who already tried / did this
[20:09] <silidan> or at least knows for sure f it is possible /impossible
[20:09] <Slart> silidan: what makes you think someone has done it? it seems easier to just use a regular ethernet connection
[20:09] <talntid> same. read only file system
[20:09] <sorin7486> silidan: try tracking down some kernel people that do sata drivers ;)
[20:10] <silidan> because when oyu need parallel processing on low budget and Gbit lan is too slow for you... this would be next option that come to my mind
[20:10] <silidan> ok, where can i find kernel developers?
[20:10] <talntid> eut: same - read only
[20:10] <silidan> especially ones doing sata
[20:11] <DIL> helpgoingnuts: check these out  http://air-imager.sourceforge.net/; http://dcfldd.sourceforge.net, http://www.sleuthkit.org/autopsy/desc.php
[20:11] <TTT_Travis> testrtest1 hmm sorry, I can't find any info about that board, I am doubting a Core 2 would work tho
[20:11] <eut> talntid, then i'm not sure... umask should give everybody full permissions, man mount for more info
[20:11] <Slart> silidan: if gigabig lan it too slow you're no longer playing in the "low budget" division =).. not sure what they use in supercomputers.. probably something special
[20:11] <eut> talntid, *umask=000
[20:11] <ronny> hmm
[20:11] <talntid> yeah I had tried that already :)
[20:11] <testrtest1> ttt_travis, thanks, yeah, i cant find much info either. is there any risk in trying to put a c2d on it though?
[20:11] <silidan> they ise fiber optic links if im right
[20:11] <spass> testrtest1: can you open it up, and read the mobo type they put in those ?
[20:11] <Dr_willis> Slart,  ESP :) and Warp-Speed Lan!
[20:12] <silidan> with i think about 10 Gigbit
[20:12] <TTT_Travis> Hi I have a data hard drive that I moved from my old ubuntu computer, now on the new computer the files are all highlighted green in terminal, I Think that means sticky bit -- how do I get the files back to normal?
[20:12] <spass> testrtest1: worst case... it wont run ;]
[20:12] <talntid> testrtest1: putting the c2d in a lga 775 won't hurt it
[20:12] <slyyf> Ok so, suddenly about a month or so ago dvds stopped working, they work on windows, /dev/scd0 should be the disk drive, however, it says there is no media..if I start gnome (which used to autoplay the dvds)..gnome does not see the dvd drive
[20:12] <testrtest1> spass and ta1ntid thanks
[20:12] <Slart> silidan: but go read up on the protocol SATA uses.. if you're lucky it's just software you need
[20:12] <testrtest1> will try it then
[20:12] <testrtest1> cya
[20:12] <meoblast001> i can't get the bluetooth headset to work
[20:12] <testrtest1> gusy
[20:12] <FloodBot1> testrtest1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <adac> spass, MoTec what is the bet method with nmap to test if a host is online (if remote host is blocking ping)
[20:12] <Slart> Dr_willis: hehe.."ESP inside" =)
[20:13] <silidan> ok i think so too, but can oyu give me hint on which channel i can find some kernel ppl ?
[20:13] <Slart> silidan: try ##linux ... or check kernel.org
[20:13] <eut> talntid, did you unmount it before you remounted?
[20:13] <silidan> cause in the end i think a ethernet driver for sata is needed
[20:13] <MoTec> adac: nmap -O host should work
[20:13] <Dr_willis> Slart,  I need a Tee-shirt with that.. for my Mom! :)
[20:13] <silidan> twil try
[20:13] <spass> adac: try using arping
[20:14] <talntid> yes, eut
[20:14] <Slart> Dr_willis: hmm.. ESP with paranoid mode =)
[20:14] <mike8888> hey guys, need help. i want to play alien arena online but i can't coz im behind proxy. I try to use privoxy so that privoxy will listen to the localhost connections and forward it to my proxy server. Can someone help me.. I dunno how to config the privoxy..
[20:14] <Antioch> i was using an old version of Banshee which auto-downloaded album cover artwork for one of my albums. The artwork is bad - it's distorted in a green color. I just updated to Banshee 1.4.2 hoping that it will use the "cover.jpg" file in the folder where the music resides, but it doesnt. How can I make it flush the old downloaded image and use the cover.jpg in the directory? Thanks!
[20:14] <Dr_willis> Slart,  and 'free guilt trips'
[20:14] <eut> talntid, maybe someone else can help.. i dunno
[20:14] <talntid> thanks for trying =D
[20:14] <russia213> How would you format/repartition a drive with Ubuntu?
[20:14] <slyyf> anybody?
[20:14] <spass> adac: check -sA
[20:14] <Dr_willis> russia213,  one way - use 'gparted'
[20:15] <spass> adac: it needs root perms
[20:15] <Dr_willis> russia213,  and you partition, then format.
[20:15] <MoTec> yeah, both -sA and -O would require root
[20:15] <russia213> Dr_Willis: Where do I get gparted or is it already installed?
[20:16] <adac> spass, MoTec ok, i will try your options and see what is the best. thx!
[20:16] <Dr_willis> russia213,  if its not.. install it.. Logical eh?
[20:18] <DIL> russia213: after install it will be on menu but you have to be root so gksu gparted from console
[20:18] <russia213> k
[20:19] <borys> co ty nie powiesz
[20:19] <blip-> rusi
[20:19] <spass> borys: idź na polski kanał
[20:19] <etech> is there alight desktop environment which doesn't need to be configured with text files?
[20:19] <fdr> could you please suggest me an up-to-date howto for installing dansguardian (or any other parental filter) on intrepid as transparent proxy? Thanks!
[20:20] <blip-> etchy, every desktop enviroment stores settings in a text file,  some provice gui front-ends to modify those.  I like openbox,   has a frontend called obconf
[20:20] <Renfield> I am having all kinds of problems getting Ubuntu installed.
[20:20] <blip-> etchy, the only setting that needs to be done manuall is for keyboard shortcuts and that's very easy.   it's a new wm so the future will bring more gui tools
[20:20] <Renfield> I finally got past the install base system by running it three times.
[20:21] <blip-> what's the difference between Hardy and 8.04 LTS ?  I can't tell the diff
[20:21] <Renfield> Now, it keeps dieing on "select and install software". What can I do?
[20:21] <Scunizi> blip-: Hard is 8.04
[20:22] <jrib> blip-: same thing.  Technically, the term "Hardy" is meant to used during devel only, but that's not the case in practice
[20:22] <etech> blip-, ok, because some desktop environments need to be configured through text files to change the size of the panel for example
[20:22] <blip-> Scunizi, yes but I have an old CD that was 8.04 only.  I went to download one today and it was called 8.04 LTS
[20:22] <blip-> it even had updated drivers somehow
[20:22] <nkei0> What does the kernel option irqpoll do?
[20:22] <Renfield> I see various errors: Couldn't find task ubuntustudio-audio, tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[20:23] <blip-> etchy, openbox doesn't give you a panel, you install one seperately from the repositories. if you want an easy and nice one try fbpanel
[20:23] <russia213> DiL: I do I get it to format to ntfs?
[20:23] <blip-> etchy, and if you want desktop icons,  try pcmanfm file manager (it has desktop icon support in the file manager itself :)
[20:24] <Johnny5> I have a bit of a problem :(
[20:25] <helpgoingnuts> hey
[20:25] <WIGGMPk> My openoffice does not have "Icons" on the toolbars, it just has the words identifying the actions. Why is this? and how can I get the icons like i see in other screenshots?
[20:26] <Johnny5> I deleted a non-essential primary partition so that I could create an extended partition there instead, and free up that 4th primary spot to put Linux on..... but now Windows doesn't boot up and I can't see my partitions
[20:26] <edoceo> My apt-get reports loads of dependency errors on this machine I just assumed control of - how do I "trick" it to ignore those so I can just get a kernel update?
[20:26] <Scunizi> WIGGMPk: might have something to do with your theme.. I installed a dark theme yesterday and all my icons with OO disappeared as well.
[20:27] <Grok4242> ntp seems to be missing on the servers.  Getting a 404.  Anyone know of an alternate place to get it?
[20:27] <WIGGMPk> Scunizi: i like my theme.. have you tried installing the hi contrast package to see if it will fix?
[20:27] <Scunizi> WIGGMPk: nope..
[20:27] <carpii> if i install a source package via apt-get, whats the correct way to remove it? just delete the dir ?
[20:28] <jrib> carpii: huh?  explain exactly what you mean with commands
[20:28] <carpii> like i did "sudo apt-get source kmail"
[20:28] <carpii> which retrieved a tarball
[20:28] <jrib> carpii: nothing else?
[20:28] <Grok4242> "sudo aptitude install ntp" ==> 404
[20:28] <carpii> well i did some compilation, but that was just to /usr/local and i did a make distclean
[20:28] <nkohh> hello, has anyone experienced the sound levels jumping on modification in 8.10? (everytime I hit the volume up or down button on keyboard or change it from the panel applet it can jump all over... from top to middle to bottom to mute.. it's very random)
[20:28] <carpii> so i think thats all removed
[20:28] <Grok4242> Tried to install it first under date/time tool
[20:28] <wolter> hi
[20:29] <spass> carpii: apt-get remove ?
[20:29] <wolter> how come i have 4gb ram, and 77% are in use with only xchat and gnome do running????
[20:29] <jrib> carpii: you ran « make install » at some point to install to /usr/local/?
[20:29] <carpii> yes jrib, but then make distclean afterwards to remove it
[20:29] <Grok4242> wolter: Filesystem cacheing.
[20:29] <bat1> HELLO PEOPLE!!!
[20:29] <DIL> shh
[20:29] <wolter> Grok4242, but 77% in use, not in cache
[20:29] <sether> WIGGMPk, try View -> Toolbars -> Customize. in the Customize window, go to the Toolbars tab and select the Toolbar drop-down menu, then select either "Icons only" or "Icons and text"
[20:29] <Grok4242> wolter: If you need the RAM for applications it will be switched from caching the filesystem to your app.
[20:29] <bat1> My name is Borya
[20:29] <carpii> spass i cant apt-get remove since it will remove my kmail packages, rather than the source tarball
[20:29] <wolter> Grok4242, I normally get like 11% or 17%.
[20:30] <bat1> I LOVE YOU!
[20:30] <wolter> Grok4242, it is not cached! it is in use by programs!
[20:30] <bat1> PIDARI!
[20:30] <bat1> VI 4E
[20:30] <bat1> axyeli savsem?
[20:30] <nkohh> wolter: run "free -m" in a terminal and read the "cached" value
[20:30] <DIL> !ru
[20:30] <wolter> nkohh, 576
[20:31] <WIGGMPk> sether: i have tried that before but it didnt work.. however removing these package  sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-gtk openoffice.org-gnome worked, but I cant use my theme (which didnt mix well either)
[20:31] <nkohh> shared and buffers?
[20:31] <jrib> carpii: make distclean doesn't remove the stuff you installed to /usr/local/.  You're not really doing this properly.  If you use apt-get source, then you usually make modifications and then rebuild the deb package and install that.  You've circumvented apt by using « make install », so it doesn't know anything about what you have in /usr/local/.  It's still there.  You'll have to remove it yourself
[20:31] <WIGGMPk> sether: thanks though
[20:31] <sether> =\
[20:31] <wolter> total 3959, used 3701
[20:31] <bat1> yf' yf'
[20:31] <wolter> im going to reboot.. this can't be.
[20:31] <bat1> vi axyeli?
[20:31] <nkohh> wolter: do a ps aux and look at the fourth column... fourth column is MEM%
[20:31] <bat1> savsem
[20:31] <nkohh> or not
[20:31] <bat1> vi napro4' axyeli
[20:32] <Grok4242> wolter: Yeah, that's out of control for sure.
[20:32] <carpii> jrib, but makedistclean removes the binary files the compilation created, no?
[20:32] <carpii> i cant see anything in /usr/local  (it was kmail i was compiling)
[20:32] <carpii> /usr/local/bin
[20:32] <Johnny5> How can I tell if I've lost everything on my computer or if my partitions still exist?
[20:32] <Grok4242> So anyone know where I can find a safe mirror to get the ntp package from since the master seems to have walked off?
[20:33] <carpii> johnny5, boot from livecd and try to mount the partitions?
[20:33] <jrib> carpii: carpii I suppose it depends on the makefile, but usually it does not.  If there's nothing in /usr/local/ and there used to be, then I guess you are fine
[20:33] <Johnny5> How do I mount them?
[20:33] <spass> Johnny5: fdisk -l
[20:33] <carpii> ok thanks jrib. so im ok to just delete the source tarball which apt downloaded. rather than doing apt-get source remove or something
[20:33] <Grok4242> Johnny5: Or if you're running in GUI mode from the "places" menu
[20:33] <jrib> carpii: yes
[20:33] <carpii> great, thanks
[20:34] <Grok4242> wolter: So how's the memory?
[20:34] <xoox> How do I get prevu to use my gpg key?
[20:34] <WIGGMPk> sether: Scunizi: installing openoffice.org-style-hicontrast package brings back the icons but they look really really ugly (and im still able to use my dark gtk theme)
[20:34] <edoceo> how does dpkg determine my architecture?
[20:34] <wolter> Grok4242, now that i rebooted, 11% again :)
[20:34] <wolter> Grok4242, who knows what happened...
[20:35] <spass> wolter: tried to check which process takes this memory ? top ?
[20:35] <Johnny5> What is the code pasting ubuntu page again? I'd like to show you the fdisk return.
[20:35] <meoblast001> i need soem assistance with setting up a bluetooth headset... help.ubuntu.com isn't working for me
[20:35] <marko-_-> !pastebin >> Johnny5
[20:35] <stefg> Johnny5: /topic
[20:35] <marko-_-> aha
[20:36] <wolter> spass, well, it was banshee, but it only had 64mb taken
[20:36] <spass> wierd
[20:36] <DSSA> Is anyone in here well versed with runing REALVNC with Ubuntu 8.10?
[20:36] <DSSA> ...and patient, as I'm completely inept at this stuff
[20:37] <wolter> yeah
[20:37] <Grok4242> wolter: I should try Banshee...you think it's better than the default Rythmbox?
[20:37] <PPKuma> hi, when i right click i get a context menu "Create New" in this options you can choose "HTML file". is there a Way to modify this html file template?
[20:37] <DSSA> I don't know if I have to set up a static IP or just figure out what one my Ubuntu box has in order to use it
[20:37] <Johnny5> Thanks. Here is what fdisk says: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d23ee9947
[20:37] <edoceo> How could I detect the version of Ubuntu I'm using? - (gutsy,hardy,etc)
[20:37] <Grok4242> DSSA: Not with Ubuntu but with VNC in general I am very experienced
[20:38] <robf> when I go to restricted drivers,  it says "none found"  normally it'd not say this (I ran the ati restricted drivers and it broke x,  so I removed fglrx* and ati/radeon xserver-xorg-video drivers
[20:38] <edoceo> I have this libc6:  libc6                            2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[20:38] <DIL> cat /etc/*-version
[20:38] <wolter> Grok4242, well, just now I am trying rythmbox because banshee is awesome, but consumes way too much memory
[20:38] <robf> but in the future I want restricted drivers to function correctly if this is ever fixed...why are they not appearing in there now?
[20:38] <DSSA> Grok: I have the Server Edition which I added the desktop to, just need to find the address I need to type into VDC in order to connect it
[20:38] <meoblast001> i've about had it with stuff not working
[20:38] <wolter> rythmbox is taking half of what banshee did
[20:38] <nkohh> wolter: plus, rhythmbox will play stuff from jamendo :)
[20:38] <DSSA> Pretty much a noob with any of this stuff, so I apologize
[20:38] <wolter> Grok4242, have you expirienced any odds with rythmbox? its been years since i don't run it
[20:38] <robf> DSSA: don't apologize... no better way to learn ;)
[20:38] <deany> robf, i recommend the lastest ATI/AMD driver....
[20:39] <robf> well I mean,  than asking quesitons
[20:39] <MoTec> edoceo: do a cat /etc/issue
[20:39] <robf> deany: oh no no,  I've no problem there ;)
[20:39] <deany> latest**
[20:39] <Tobias2200> hello. so i finally burned a working ubuntu cd :) now i'm stuck at connecting to my wlan access point. i use a usb wlan adapter from netgear.  how can i configure it?
[20:39] <Grok4242> DSSA: When you startup the server it tells you the port offset.  Typically the port is 5901 if you're only running one server
[20:39] <robf> deany: the issue is that it simply isn't showing anything IN the restricted drivers app now
[20:39] <deany> still, i`d use that myself... I do.
[20:39] <robf> deany: I wondered why it wouldn o longer show the ati drivers (even though I'm not going to use them)
[20:39] <deany> ok
[20:39] <Grok4242> wolter: Yeah...I can't add any files to my library via either SSH mount or SMB mount.
[20:39] <Johnny5> I should have four partitions. That looks like it's seeing four things, but I don't know how to get them back working.
[20:39] <Renfield> Is the minimal CD installation method supposed to be an officially supported method of installation?
[20:39] <MoTec> edoceo: or a cat /etc/lsb-release
[20:40] <deany> maybe need to do an update or upgrade?
[20:40] <DSSA> Yeah, I'm using this as my only server.  Just setting this up as a glorified file server for three other (XP) computers
[20:40] <Grok4242> wolter: Works VERY well with NFS but "Places" doesn't support NFS....probably because it isn't installed.
[20:40] <DIL> sry cat /etc/*-release
[20:40] <stefg> DSSA: as a general rule a server should have a fixed ip anyway. if you're going to connect fro behind a router you need to set up port forwarding anyway, that'll be dfficult with a moving IP issud by a dhcp server
[20:40] <deany> wifi driver for my laptop doesnt appear unitl i do an upgrade.... which is a minus point for ubuntu
[20:40] <DSSA> Trying to make it headless, but have to figure out the info for REALVNC
[20:40] <edoceo> MoTec: dapper! thx!
[20:41] <robf> deany: thing is I upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04,  ati restricted drivers broke X,  so I purged fglrx* / xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon   did removing these packages cause the items to disapear from the restricted driver applet
[20:41] <robf> need I simply remerge them?
[20:41] <robf> er re apt-get them?
[20:41] <stefg> DSSA: just type ifconfig in a terminal and see what IP you got
[20:41] <MoTec> DSSA: look into webmin, also.  gives you a nice web interface to admin the machine
[20:41] <xoox> k
[20:41] <cln> you guys know why audio ATI IXP SB4x0 does not work properly on linux?
[20:41] <Renfield> Heh, sounds like Gentoo in here.
[20:41] <Grok4242> DSSA: There are a lot of potential issues.  I would first try to ping the server from the client to make sure you can even see it on the network "ping <server IP address>" where <server IP address> you got from running /sbin/ifconfig on the VNC server box
[20:41] <deany> I try and stay away from upgrading...
[20:41] <MoTec> i use the stressfree theme with webmin.. very nice stuff
[20:41] <robf> deany: understandable,  but at this point I'm where I am ;)
[20:42] <stefg> !webmin | MoTec
[20:42] <[TiZ]> Hi, I found a weird bug, and the reason my notifications weren't working. If I fullscreen an application using --full-screen or compiz's window rules, then notifications won't appear. Does anyone know anything about this? And where would you advise I file this bug?
[20:42] <wolter> Grok4242, well, I just keep a symlink to a ntfs partition with my music
[20:42] <Tobias2200> aw. the AP's are listed, but i can not connect :O anyone? :)
[20:42] <wolter> works awesome
[20:42] <deany> robf, sometimes, fixin it is more trouble than reinstalling :)
[20:42] <MoTec> stefg: thanks for that info!
[20:42] <wolter> Grok4242, you mean nfs like, net filesystem?
[20:42] <DSSA> when I run that command it comes up with a lot of different addresses.  How can a noob tell which is the one I need?
[20:42] <Grok4242> DSSA: Then try telneting into the VNC server with "telenet <server IP Address>:5901" or if on windows "telnet <server IP Address> 5901"
[20:42] <Luuux> guys i need help to install libssl, some guide pls?
[20:42] <rlameiro> !ebox
[20:42] <Luuux> guys i need help to install libssl, some guide pls?
[20:42] <wolter> Grok4242, does rythmbox organize the songs in directories, like banshee and itunes do?
[20:42] <porkpie> guys can anyone point me to a dapper sources.list please
[20:43] <deany> i tried an upgrade once, it wasnt worth the bother it caused me.
[20:43] <Grok4242> wolter: Yep.  I have an NFS server with 500GB of music and movies that everyone in my house uses.
[20:43] <Johnny5> Can anyone tell if that output means my partitions are still alive, and how to get them accessable again?
[20:43] <wolter> Grok4242, well, thats pretty nice lol
[20:43] <stefg> !sources | porkpie
[20:43] <Grok4242> wolter: NFS is awsome because if my kid "accidently" turns the server off nothing blows up.  Just restart it and the music starts again in 50 seconds.
[20:44] <Grok4242> wolter: Sorta like musical charis.
[20:44] <wolter> yeah
[20:44] <MoTec> ebox doesn't look as shiney as stressfree webmin... but I guess proper operation counts for something :)
[20:44] <wolter> Grok4242, your house looks like a technological one haha
[20:44] <Grok4242> wolter: It does it by artist: album
[20:44] <wolter> Grok4242, I am experiencing short stalls with rythmbox...
[20:45] <Grok4242> wolter: Never had that problem and my box IS VERY underpowered.
[20:45] <Grok4242> wolder: AMD 4 years old running off a USB key
[20:45] <Grok4242> wolter: Who is a technologist now?
[20:45] <Tobias2200> anyone familiar with wireless networking under ubuntu?
[20:46] <wolter> !tab | Grok4242
[20:46] <wolter> Grok4242, haha, well I guess me
[20:46] <wolter> Grok4242, how do i get rythmbox to organize my files
[20:46] <wolter> ?
[20:46] <Grok4242> wolter: Thanks...I don't hit IRC very much and didn't know that
[20:47] <fdr> I am trying to set up a transparent proxy. Did this: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080                 but it doesn't seem to be working.... any suggestions please? Thanks!
[20:47] <MoTec> Mmm.. IRSSI :)
[20:47] <Grok4242> I'm just hanging out until either the NTP package is put back on the Ubuntu servers or I find an alternate link.
[20:47] <fdr> (looks like the routing rule is not added...)
[20:48] <Brando753> hey how do you share files betwen computers in ubuntu
[20:48] <wolter> Grok4242, so, how do i?
[20:48] <Brando753> ?
[20:48] <mikeyyy> hey guys.. need some help. I want to play alien arena online but i can't coz im behind proxy. U have any idea how to solve this..
[20:48] <Grok4242> Brando753: SSH
[20:49] <Brando753> SSH?
[20:49] <Brando753> !ssh
[20:49] <aboSamoor1> can anyone help me with compiling libfprint ? I got the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/115687/
[20:49] <Grok4242> Brando753: Go to places and choose "Connect to a Server"
[20:49] <shwan> Brando753: Samba can do it , Nautilus can do it aswell by configuring samba for you!
[20:49] <faessje> Hi
[20:49] <Grok4242> Brando753:  Then choose SSH and put in the IP address of the other computer
[20:49] <spass> Brando753: ssh, samba, nfs, ftp... choose what you like
[20:50] <Grok4242> shwan: That is true but complex compared to the SSH option
[20:50] <Brando753> also how do i find the ip addres on ubuntu, i KNow how to in windows but not ubuntu :P
[20:50] <Grok4242> shwan: Or does ubuntu not run ssh server by default?  I haven't run it very long but I can't imagine a Linux box without ssh server
[20:50] <Johnny5> Anyone? carpii, spass?
[20:51] <spass> Brando753: ifconfig
[20:51] <Grok4242> Brando753: I'm sure there is an easier way but I always start a term and use "/sbin/ipconfig"
[20:51] <carpii> hm Johnny?
[20:51] <shwan> Grok4242: I think there is no ssh by default , not sure
[20:51] <MoTec> Brando753: ifconfig
[20:51] <wolter> Grok4242, but nah, back to banshee... rythmbox is also using 67mb...
[20:51] <Johnny5> Did that output from fdisk tell you anything?
[20:51] <wolter> Grok4242, i really recommend it to you
[20:51] <Grok4242> shawn: I think you might be correct.  Or the firewall is blocking localhost
[20:51] <carpii> i dont know, i didnt see it, sorry
[20:51] <Brando753> why ifconfig ? so confusing windows is IPconfig
[20:51] <carpii> try putting all your details on one line, the chan moves pretty quickly
[20:52] <carpii> or nopaste it
[20:52] <Johnny5> Okay, here carpii: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d23ee9947
[20:52] <MoTec> Brando753: because that's the way it is..   it shows InterFace information
[20:52] <Grok4242> wolter: I will try it....maybe it can work with ssh mounts
[20:52] <pronoy> anyone ?
[20:52] <wolter> Grok4242, well, do you have your disk mounted?
[20:52] <carpii> Johnny, to me that looks corrupt im afraid
[20:52] <carpii> sda2 starts on a cylinder which is < sda1 end
[20:52] <wolter> Grok4242, you might as well want to download gnome-do, its awesome. Its way better than any mac or awn dock
[20:52] <Johnny5> Anything I can do?
[20:53] <rlameiro> Brando753: if config comes before the windows one!
[20:53] <rlameiro> windows is confusing
[20:53] <carpii> hrm, maybe some specialised recovery tools, but id say the chances arent great
[20:53] <Grok4242> Brando753:  ifconfig is for interface config and does a lot more than the ipconfig command.  I agree it should by symlinked though.  I accidently type the wrong one all the time no matter which OS I'm on.
[20:53] <Johnny5> Darnit
[20:53] <Grok4242> wolter: I did that today.
[20:53] <Grok4242> wolter: Haven't used it much yet.
[20:54] <spass> Johnny5: try 'testdisk'. Maybie it will help. It requres knowledge tho...
[20:54] <wolter> Grok4242, really? do you like it?
[20:54]  * Johnny5 has no knowledge
[20:54] <DIL> it was ariad
[20:54] <Brando753> so i did the ssh link and got "ssh program unexpectedly exited" :(
[20:54] <pronoy> hello ? anyone ?
[20:54] <DIL> a raid
[20:54] <spass> Johnny5: then you're doomed...
[20:55] <shwan> Grok4242: I checked it out now , you need to install openssh-server in order to get ssh in to the box , the client is standard by the way
[20:55] <Grok4242> wolter: Too soon to tell.  I keep forgetting to use it
[20:55] <Renfield> pronoy: Get in line.
[20:55] <pronoy> i am in line :)
[20:55] <Renfield> The line is long.
[20:55] <wolter> Grok4242, oh
[20:55] <pronoy> Renfield :) yeah i sorta just realized
[20:55] <Grok4242> shawn: Then I switch to your idea of setting up samba if he wants to use it long term
[20:55] <nickrud> the line starts with whoever writes the clearest question that someone knows the answer to
[20:56] <Brando753> :d
[20:56] <_VIM_> lol
[20:56] <Johnny5> spass, testdisk in a terminal says "testdisk: error while loading shared libraries: libntfs.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[20:56] <Brando753> help, when i did the ssh link and got "ssh program unexpectedly exited" :(
[20:56] <[biabia]> i installed startip-manager, changed a few settings and saved them, but the window has been running for 2 hours in "performing post configuration tasks".   Is it safe to close this window
[20:57] <spass> Brando753: better install ftp server to share files
[20:57] <[biabia]> err startup-manager
[20:57] <pronoy> taking a cue from nickrud .....i have installed ubuntu in windows and i am not able to access the rest of the drive in which i have installed it..how do i access the content ?
[20:57] <Grok4242> Brando753: Did you see my conversation with shwan?
[20:57] <Brando753> well how do i use samba?
[20:57] <WebcamWonder> pronoy: wubi?
[20:57] <shwan> Brando753: which version of ubuntu do you run ?
[20:57] <spass> Brando753: way easier than ssh for a newbie
[20:57] <WebcamWonder> pronoy: You want to access Windows drive from your Ubuntu install?
[20:57] <Grok4242> Brando753: You either need to go to Applications->Add Remove Applications and install ssh-server first or look into the samba share route.
[20:57] <Brando753> i just want a nice drop folder
[20:57] <owner> anyone use gufw firewall?
[20:57] <Brando753> i have ubuntu 8.10
[20:58] <darius_> best command to have a live stream start on startup in ubuntu?
[20:58] <pronoy> WebcamWonder: yes....the same drive in which ubuntu is installed in
[20:58] <Safe> Stupid ubuntu, the internet still won't work. /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf all look as they should, still nothing.
[20:58] <chuckc> is there a way to know what drive belongs to which physical sata port; ie /dev/sdb -> sata port 1 ?
[20:58] <WebcamWonder> pronoy: It should be mounted on /host/
[20:58] <[biabia]> chuckc: mount
[20:58] <shwan> Brando753: then all you need is just right click on the folder you want to share and choose share and ... then from the other pc choose network from places menu
[20:58] <pronoy> WebcaWonder: why doesn't it show on the side....like why doesn't it show like the rest of the drives
[20:58] <Renfield> Safe: I've got a similar problem. I can't get the minimal CD to give me a reliable enough connection for to actually complete the install.
[20:59] <wolter> why do you people ssh mount things?
[20:59] <pronoy> WebcamWonder: why doesn't it show on the side....like why doesn't it show like the rest of the drives
[20:59] <wolter> god..
[20:59] <owner> what's the best (user-friendly) firewall in ubuntu?
[20:59] <Brando753> i know that but my computer wont show up under network >"(
[20:59] <slyyf> Ok, I am getting very ticked now...Ever since a kernel upgrade a month or so ago scd0 (My DVD/CD drive) is missing..and I cant fix it..I need answers and I want them now
[20:59] <WebcamWonder> pronoy: Oh, that is b/c of the way Wubi does the mounting. The host drive is mounted, and then the ext3 parittion is mounted off the host drive
[20:59] <Safe> Renfield, you
[20:59] <phyburn> it seems when I updated to kernel 2.6.27-11 it broke my NIC is there any big security flaws with 2.6.27-7?
[20:59] <Safe> Renfield, you're trying to configure via the network-manager right? Seems to be a bug there.
[21:00] <chuckc> bibia: i don't have the drives mounted, not partitioned yet.  I have 3 of the same drive, but can't tell which one is failing
[21:00] <mads-> HI - I'm trying to install glew. When I try doing "sudo make" it says "/bin/sh: config/config.guess: not found" - what is wrong?
[21:00] <pronoy> WebcamWonder: so the drive in which i have installed ubuntu is taken off the /host/
[21:00] <pronoy> ??
[21:00] <Grok4242> wolter: Because SSH server comes default with all other versions of Linux.  Trying to install and configure samba is a pain on say Fedora10 compared to just using the existing ssh server.  It all works the same once you're connected.
[21:00] <Renfield> Safe: No, there's no network-manager that I know of. Well unless it is part of the minimal install. This is all text and no GUI.
[21:00] <Brando753> Is there a reason the network folder is so flaky?
[21:00] <Brando753> sometimes my laptop appers sometimes it dosent
[21:01] <WebcamWonder> pronoy: Yeah. On system startup, one of the first things that is done is, mount your NTFS drive on /host. Then your entire / is mounted from /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk, so basically, /host is guarunteed to be there and mounted all the time your ubuntu is running
[21:01] <Safe> Renfield, oh. I've been trying all day to get this to work, can't understand what the problem would be.
[21:01] <darius_> anyone know how to have a url start @ startup?
[21:01] <Mood> How can i auto connect to my wifi? I'm using ubuntu 8.10
[21:01] <Renfield> Yea, me neither.
[21:01] <Tisch> #eurocop
[21:01] <eut> Safe, Renfield, what is your problem?
[21:01] <shwan> then just use connect to server and use the IP adress , prot. SMB ...so on you need maybe can just point nautilius to this path smb://your-server-ipread or readf https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[21:01] <maxanto> ciao
[21:01] <maxanto> !list
[21:02] <pronoy> WebcamWonder: can i do it using a gui like ntfsconf or something
[21:02] <shwan> Safe: DO you have Network Manager installed ?
[21:02] <WebcamWonder> pronoy: What do you want to do?
[21:02] <Safe> eut, well, internet just wont start? I've configured everything as it should be. (according to the examples I've googled.)
[21:02] <Renfield> eut: I can not get through the installation of Ubuntu. It keeps dieing in various places.
[21:02] <Safe> shwan, no, uninstalled it.
[21:02] <eut> hmm...
[21:02] <Blended> i've got a question anyone willing to help?
[21:02] <pronoy> WebcamWonder: to mount it automatically on startup
[21:03] <Flannel> !anyone | Blended
[21:03] <Renfield> eut: It took three tries to get through the "install base system" portion.
[21:03] <WebcamWonder> pronoy: It is automatically done. If that wasn't done, your ubuntu couldn't have even gone to the loading screen :)
[21:03] <wolter> Grok4242, well, seems nice :p
[21:03] <wolter> Grok4242, I think I'd better try it. Samba is not as good as one hopes
[21:03] <pronoy> WebcamWonder: ok so then i'll have to remount it on /host/
[21:03] <Blended> Can anyone tell me how to enable the 3d cube desktop effect... i've tried all of the tutorials for it and none of them work
[21:03] <Renfield> eut: Then it completely, and repeatedly failed on installing the packages.
[21:03] <WebcamWonder> pronoy: Wubi sets up all this mounting thing automatically.. You don't need to remount anything. Just goto nautilus and browse to /host, it should be there
[21:04] <Brando753> hey how come my network folder only shows some computers some of the time then other computers other times when there all on?
[21:04] <Safe> eut, it's a little tricky for me since I dual-boot, makes it kinda hard to troubleshoot.
[21:04] <Safe> I can ping myself however.
[21:04] <Grok4242> wolter: SSH is the soul of Linux
[21:04] <Grok4242> wolter: Or maybe the cardio system at least.
[21:04] <Antioch> I'm trying to add a new set of smiley themes to Pidgin. Ive both dragged the tar.gz file into the smiley themes window, as well as pressing the add button and giving it the file-name. Neither method works. I've tried this for many different smiley themes and always the same result. How can I add new smiley themes to Pidgin?
[21:04] <[biabia]> chuckc if you dont have them partitioned or mounted what makes you think one of them is failing
[21:04] <wolter> Grok4242, hah
[21:04] <Antioch> Thank you!
[21:04] <Blended> Can anyone tell me how to enable the 3d cube desktop effect... i've tried all of the tutorials for it and none of them work
[21:04] <eut> Renfield, i dont think i can help much. but have you done a disk check to make sure the install disk is not corrupt? other than that i dont know :/
[21:04] <Renfield> eut: I've started over again, and now it is in "loading additional components". It is going very slowly.
[21:04] <eut> Safe, have you tried "sudo dhclient3"?
[21:05] <WebcamWonder> Antioch: ##pidgin might be more helpful
[21:05] <Safe> No, I have a static IP though.
[21:05] <eut> Renfield, i noticed this past week that some repos were going very slowly.. may that could have something to do with it
[21:05] <Grok4242> Blended: What brand video card do you have?  Nvidia, ATI, Intel, etc?
[21:05] <Renfield> eut: I did not. This is a minimal CD. Is there a way for me to get the MD5 sum for this? I could not find it.
[21:05] <Blended> well had an onboard nvidia but installed an ati radeaon
[21:05] <Antioch> WebcamWonder,  Ill give it a shot, thanks.
[21:05] <Blended> radeon*
[21:06] <Renfield> eut: Oh? Slow enough to time out?
[21:06] <shwan> Brando753: you maybe need to read the samba howto and check nmbd is up and runnig fine
[21:06] <eut> Renfield, probably not that slow
[21:06] <ktron> I'm trying to remap USB gamepad keys to keyboard keys-- any ideas for what app I should be looking for?
[21:06] <Brando753> now does samba have to be on the sending or reciving end?
[21:06] <etech> hi again
[21:06] <Fractured> ktron joy2key
[21:06] <Grok4242> Blended: I'm out.  Really easy on Intel...not bad with Nvidia.  ATI should be easier than NVidia but I've never done it.
[21:06] <pronoy> WebcamWonder: thanks i'll give it a shot
[21:06] <etech> why is firefox not upgraded to 3.0.6 in intrepid?
[21:07] <Kryzler> what do I do if I've forgotten the root password?
[21:07] <tritium> Kryzler: you didn't.  The root account is locked.
[21:07] <spass> Kryzler: you're doomed
[21:07] <Renfield> Blended: Don't PM me.
[21:07] <[biabia]> Kryzler: the root word in ubuntu is disabled by default unless you enabled it
[21:07] <shwan> Kryzler: ailsafe mode , and then terminal , or command line , passwd root
[21:07] <Grok4242> etech: FF lets the distributor handle upgrades on Linux systems.
[21:07] <[biabia]> root account
[21:08] <Blended> Sorry
[21:08] <Kryzler> cheers guys
[21:08] <etech> ok but there are security fixes in fx 3.0.6
[21:08] <benjamin_> I'm having major issues installing Ubuntu Server x64 on my pc
[21:08] <[biabia]> Kryzler: you can get a root prompt with sudo -s
[21:08] <Safe> So, noone in here who can help a poor soul get his internet (static IP) to work?
[21:08] <shwan> Kryzler: again , reboot and choose safe mode in grub boot ,  and then terminal , or command line , passwd root or you username
[21:09] <Blended> well can anyone help me get my 3d desktop working?
[21:09] <Renfield> benjamin_: Welcome to the club.
[21:09] <toni_> ciao
[21:09] <robbe-> Hello, I have a problem compiling gcc in my homedir (and installing in my homedir) on ubuntu. I use a shell script to autmate the task (it first builds binutils, then gcc, then newlib). This works on my debian and gentoo installs, but not on ubuntu. For I don't know what reason, on ubuntu, a write to /var/backups/ is attempted
[21:09] <tritium> [biabia], Kryzler: sudo -i, rather
[21:09] <robbe-> help ? :-)
[21:09] <Grok4242> etech: If Ubuntu hasn't provided an upgrade I don't know why.
[21:09] <eut> Safe, have you tried manually editing /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:09] <benjamin_> i keep going through a Debootstrap warning
[21:09] <Safe> eut, yup, that's the only way I've done it.
[21:09] <Brando753> why does my laptop show nothing under network but my net book shows everything?
[21:09] <etech> in intrepid is still firefox 3.0.5
[21:09] <eut> Safe, paste your interfaces
[21:09] <chrismurf> I put together an Ubuntu package for a library that's not in Ubuntu at the moment -- what's the "right place" to store the /debian/ folder, and how do I start the process of getting it into Universe / elsewhere?
[21:09] <meoblast001> screw it i'll return the stupid adapter
[21:09] <Grok4242> benjamin_:  Are you trying to install actual 64bit version of Ubuntu or just the normal version on a 64bit processor?
[21:09] <meoblast001> crap wont work
[21:09] <Safe> eut, in a moment.
[21:09] <[biabia]> well sudo -i is root with root environment, sudo -s is root with current user environment
[21:09] <nickrud> etech, the way ubuntu picks up security fixes is by backporting the fixes to the ff that's provided; the release number doesn't change. you can look at the changelogs in /usr/share/doc/firefox/
[21:09] <Blended> *sigh*
[21:10] <benjamin_> 64bit on vista64 via virtualbox
[21:10] <eut> Renfield, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-November/164271.html
[21:10] <benjamin_> Grok4242:64bit on vista64 via virtualbox
[21:10] <shwan> Brando753: How should we know, I think broadcasting a HostName on the network can take some time , reboot all other pcs while the one sharing to other is on
[21:10] <Grok4242> benjamin_: If at all possible I would recommend the 32bit version.
[21:10] <etech> nickrud, but there weren't firefox upgrades since 3.0.6 was released
[21:11] <Grok4242> benjamin_: Are you planning on giving the virtual machine more than 4GB of memory?
[21:11] <shwan> Brando753: do all pcs have ubuntu installed ?
[21:11] <slyyf> Can somebody please explain to me why suddenly scd0 dissapeared?  PLEASE!
[21:11] <Grok4242> benjamin_:  Even if you do are you planning on running a single process that needs more than 2GB of memory?
[21:11] <tritium> slyyf: I stole it
[21:11] <ortsvorsteher> !details | slyyf
[21:11] <nickrud> etech, and I have to backtrack on that, the numbers have been following the security releases for firefox
[21:12] <tritium> slyyf: without giving any additional details, how on earth do you expect someone to answer your question?
[21:12] <slyyf> ortsvorsteher: about a month or so ago I updated my kernel, ever since then dvd playback has not worked..today I decided to look into it..and the device itself (scd0) is gone..completly..and dmesg says nothing about a dvd drive.
[21:12] <|Z_E_R_O|> ola
[21:12] <Renfield> eut: Thanks, but that is not the md5sum that I have.
[21:12] <nkei0> Okay, so I reinstalled 8.10 again and this time my wireless isn't working.  I'm attempting to use the acerhk (acer hotkeys) dealio...  I've tried using the tarball from the authors website but I keep managing to get errors, I've now downloaded the source from synaptic, what do I do from there?
[21:12] <Safe> eut, http://pastebin.com/m576ec9e
[21:12] <benjamin_> Grok4242:  Ill download it now, but what do I do about this version that won't work
[21:13] <alaz> Anyone know how to disable the networkmanager? I dont need it as Im more comfortale with /etc/network/interfaces :)
[21:13] <spass> slyyf: does it appears in bios ?
[21:13] <spass> *appear
[21:13] <slyyf> spass: yup, and works in windows
[21:13] <benjamin_> Grok4242:  Sorry I got kicked off.  Did you respond?
[21:13] <|Z_E_R_O|>  i need to set fn buttons of my new keyboard, i tried with keytouch-editor but it doesn't want to work, can u help me?
[21:13] <Renfield> eut: I believe I downloaded the amd64 version. I think it is odd that the Ubuntu web page strongly suggests that you verify the md5sum, and then doesn't publish it!
[21:13] <Grok4242> benjamin_:  Didn't VirtualBox just add 64bit support?  Are you running that version?
[21:13] <MaxRide> Quick question: How would you access an Ubuntu system as root if the one and only user logon is locked?
[21:13] <eut> Renfield, yes, very strange indeed...
[21:13] <timinator59> Hello all, I am a brand new ubuntu user and everything seems to have installed properly (ver 8.10) my only problem is when I go to get updates it is extraordinarily slow 1-10 kbs. from my other machines I can get 200-800 kbs. Is there anything I can do to get to a faster update site or anything?
[21:13] <Safe> eut, did you get that? http://pastebin.com/m576ec9e
[21:13] <sether> alaz, i uninstalled it by using synaptic
[21:13] <ortsvorsteher> MaxRide: try failsafe session
[21:13] <Safe> Stupid internet connection.
[21:14] <shwan> nkei0: there is allways howtos on the ubuntu wiki and google have you done searching for same problem ?
[21:14] <MaxRide> ortsvorsteher: Thanks!
[21:14] <benjamin_> Grok4242:yes I believe I am
[21:14] <eut> Renfield, try asking in #ubuntu-dev, maybe someone there will be able to help with the verification of your image
[21:14] <ortsvorsteher> you are welcome
[21:14] <Renfield> eut: Ok.
[21:14] <eut> Safe, yes
[21:14] <alaz> sether, im bonking my head allready :D. didnt think of such a easy way...
[21:14] <nkei0> shwan: Yeah, I'm looking through them now, I'm still a pretty large n00b and a bunch of the howto's aren't geared for my n00bness
[21:14] <shwan> Safe: do you mean the problem is not Ubuntu but you connection! or ?
[21:15] <Grok4242> benjamin_: I'd double check that.  If so I have not idea.  I just know the 32bit will work MUCH better in a lot of respects.  Linux is better than Windows with 64bit but the world is just not ready.
[21:15] <Safe> shwan, no, I meant just now that IRC lagged. ;)
[21:15] <sether> alaz, tell me if it works. there might be some dependency issues
[21:15] <Renfield> Ha! same problem. Fails downloading base-packages.
[21:15] <shwan> Safe: well why did you remove networkmanager ?
[21:15] <benjamin_> Grok4242:I think i have a copy of ubuntu server 32 thanks
[21:16] <eut> Safe, looks right to me. can you ping your nameserer? 212.217.248.3?
[21:16] <Safe> shwan, because it would reset my netmask to 25 nomatter what I did.
[21:16] <MaxRide> ortsvorsteher: Worked great! Got back into the system.
[21:16] <nickrud> etech, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/326077
[21:16] <Grok4242> benjamin_: It will use less memory too since 32bit code is smaller than 64bit
[21:16] <benjamin_> Grok4242:should I enable passthrough?
[21:16] <ortsvorsteher> MaxRide: good to read :)
[21:16] <Safe> eut, no, can't ping anything except myself. It doesn't say "no such host" any longer though, so a little progress.
[21:16] <Grok4242> benjamin_: I always do.  Makes it easier to try everything out.
[21:16] <benjamin_> Grok4242:I think my 8GB can handle it. hahaha
[21:16] <Safe> (had this trouble all day)
[21:17] <eut> Safe, what about your router?
[21:17] <eut> Safe, or the gateway
[21:17] <Safe> eut, don't have a router or gateway, it's wired directly to the wall.
[21:17] <yeniklasorr> I'm using synergy. I can not change screen with mouse movement from server pc to client pc. But I can change screen client to server. Do you know the problem?
[21:18] <nkei0> oh holy crap, my led just isn't working, haha apparently my wireless was on
[21:18] <eut> Safe, ahh... in that case i would say try to run dhclient3 and see if you can get a dynamic ip at least
[21:18] <nkei0> brb
[21:18] <Grok4242> Lets see if I'm built up enough Karma: Anyone know an alternate source for the ntp package?  I get a 404 when trying to install from the time control panel or from the command line.  Doesn't show in Add Programs at all
[21:18] <ortsvorsteher> !language | nkei0
[21:18] <Safe> eut, it won't work with a dynamic IP. :D The ISP give us our IP and we punch it in, then it works. (as it does in windows)
[21:18] <etech> nickrud, ok, but i really do not understand why it must be tested so long...on windows i click check for updates in firefox and it installs 3.0.6 and it works
[21:19] <prahal_> hi how do I set the swap partition on intrepid (am I supposed to install s2ram/s2disk or should I add a parameter to grub for the kernel or ... else ?
[21:19] <benjamin_> Grok4242: So far so good.   Thanks for your help!
[21:19] <Grok4242> etech: Fedora does the same....takes a while compared to the upstream FF releases
[21:20] <Mood> Anyone know how to auto connect to wifi if a connection drops? I have to connect manually in the dialog that pops up. I already have "Connect Automatically" checked off.
[21:20] <alaz> sether, worked nicely.
[21:20] <Mood> I have a desktop, Ubuntu 8.10
[21:20] <Grok4242> etchy: You can always install the newer version of FF directly from Mozilla.  It's a little quirky but not much
[21:20] <sether> =)
[21:20] <welly> hey all. I'm just about to install ubuntu 8.10 server on my VPS. I'm thinking about installing webmin with it. Anyone use webmin? Any pros/cons?
[21:20] <Safe> eut, I've reinstalled ubuntu to a fresh install just to be sure, and I configured it manually, but still won't work. Should I try with a 32bit version maybe?
[21:20] <|Z_E_R_O|> nobody can hgelp me with keytouch?
[21:21] <guntbert> !webmin | welly
[21:21] <shwan> Safe: an advise Read many howtos you dont need to follow them , but you will learn alot then you can choose one that fits you problem , check this out too
[21:21] <prahal_> welly, not an expert but webmin has been out of debian/ubuntu for  long .
[21:21] <welly> ok thanks :)
[21:21] <welly> is there anything alternative?
[21:21] <Safe> shwan, I have, I've followed a tutorial and examples on each file.
[21:21] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi I have a problem with gnome, it has gone totally unstable on me, the fail safe and my normal mode both just go haywire all of sudden, all panels frozen, alt+f2 does nothing, only thing i can do is ctrl+alt+backspace and go into kde
[21:21] <benjamin_> Does anyone know if you can tell Ubuntu Server to use a particular drive not in the partition.  Like a external harddrive
[21:21] <Sylphid> !ebox | welly
[21:21] <shwan> Safe: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html
[21:22] <welly> I've been admin-ing my server from the bash for some time, which I'm fine with but meh.. if i can make my life easier
[21:22] <welly> cheers Sylphid
[21:22] <eut> Safe, are you sure network manager and network manager dispatcher are not running? ps aux | grep -i network
[21:22] <robbe-> Hi, I have a problem compiling (and installing, both in home dir) gcc as unprivileged user on ubuntu (current release, freshly updated). I use a shell script to autmate the task (it first builds binutils, then gcc, then newlib). This works on my debian and gentoo installs, but not on ubuntu. For I don't know what reason, on ubuntu, a write to /var/backups/ is attempted, and those files are writable for root only. On the other distro's the directory isn't e
[21:22] <benjamin_> Grok4242: That didn't work
[21:22] <guntbert> welly: it helps to read the complete statement from ubottu :)
[21:22] <Safe> eut, what if they are?
[21:22] <Grok4242> benjamin_: Where did it stop this time?
[21:23] <benjamin_> same place
[21:23] <sheena1> my firefox keeps covering over my task bars. I'm running Intrepid. I've tried the fix I found on the ubuntu forum, changing my localstore file, and its still happening. help?
[21:23] <Safe> Is it mandatory to put in network and broadcast?
[21:23] <danaman5> hi, whenever I log into Ubuntu for the first time after turning on my computer, gnome-settings-daemon fails to launch, so the interface and everything doesn't have any of the ubuntu enhancements.  If I log out and log back in, everything is normal.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[21:23] <welly> heh.. i see. can't be installed on 8.10
[21:23] <Grok4242> benjamin_: I'd try it myself but I'm running on a tin can and a few light bulbs for memory right now so I can't.
[21:23] <eut> Safe, you could try shuting them down, from my experience they tend to screw with things. 'sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/2... stop'
[21:23] <shwan> Safe: then it will override you configuration somehow
[21:24] <benjamin_> Grok4242: Thats fine.  I could have made a copy of x64 again
[21:24] <welly> I wonder if it's worth me installing 8.04 instead then
[21:24] <welly> i'm not running anything clever on my server. just a few php/drupal sites
[21:24] <|Z_E_R_O|> danaman5: i think it's a x server problem but i don't know how to fix
[21:24] <guntbert> robbe-: you shouldn't need to compile it yourself, there is build-essential
[21:24] <Safe> Uhm, it seems I have two networks card on this computer. Maybe the second one is messing it up? How do I disable eth1?
[21:24] <benjamin_> Grok4242: Are you running virtualbox?
[21:24] <danaman5> zero: it's odd that it works if I log out and back in though
[21:25] <guntbert> !info build-essential robbe-
[21:25] <robbe-> guntbert: I am compiling it for cross compilation, writing software for an arm board :)
[21:25] <owner> does ubuntu have anti-virus?
[21:25] <robbe-> ok
[21:25] <robbe-> I'm am building an ARM gcc for cross compiling
[21:25] <guntbert> robbe-: ok - I give up :)
[21:25] <shwan> owner: Yes and NO
[21:25] <|Z_E_R_O|> i don't know sorry
[21:25] <robbe-> :)
[21:25] <Grok4242> benjamin_:  I run it normally but right now I've had a driver failure and I'm running off a hacked live USB on an old machine.
[21:25] <banisterfiend> hey how do i install a theme for ubuntu?
[21:25] <banisterfiend> a new theme*
[21:25] <banisterfiend> desktop theme* :)
[21:25] <Grok4242> benjamin_: Drive failure rather.
[21:25] <IntuitiveNipple> robbe-: Have you tried an strace to determine where the fault lies?
[21:26] <shwan> owner: it has but for windows progs you maby have on your pc , not for linux natives
[21:26] <benjamin_> Grok4242: Do you remember what your "General Settings" were?
[21:26] <owner> is there a solution?
[21:26] <robbe-> IntuitiveNipple: well the fault is that a normal user doesn't have permission in that folder, but I wonder WHY it wants to write something there in the first place
[21:26] <Grok4242> benjamin_:  Sorry...been a while since I looked
[21:27] <DIL> !clam-av
[21:27] <shwan> owner: what do you need exactly so I can answer you
[21:27] <meoblast001> anyone here have a bluetooth headset?
[21:27] <robbe-> IntuitiveNipple: on my other distro's there is no mention of that directory and it all works :-)
[21:27] <silentContender> Can anyone help me m4a files on a ipod nano gen 2?
[21:27] <benjamin_> Grok4242: Thats fine... Thanks for your help
[21:27] <robbe-> IntuitiveNipple: so I guess my basic question is: why does this build process differ on an ubuntu install
[21:27] <sheena1> on Intrepid, firefox covers taskbars sometimes. . Tried the fix on the ubuntu forum, changing the localstore file, and its still happening. help?
[21:27] <owner> well, if there are viruses that can effect windows apps..what's the solution?
[21:27] <Chubbz> @SilentContender are the audio files from the itunes store?
[21:27] <IntuitiveNipple> robbe-: Is the Ubuntu user that owns the builder a member of the "admin" group?
[21:28] <alaz> owner, you dont need it
[21:28] <spass> owner: clamav
[21:28] <meoblast001> anyone?
[21:28] <Safe> Well, I guess I'll just give up this thing.
[21:28] <shwan> sheena1: Compiz setting manager can help you , find workarounds and disable the fist option
[21:28] <silentContender> @Chubbz I ripped them off of CDs using Sound Juicer
[21:28] <robbe-> IntuitiveNipple: I don't want to write in the folder in the first place
[21:28] <IntuitiveNipple> robbe-: Also, if you can figure out the exact file/path that fails from strace, and the error returned, we might be able to figure out why and how to workaround it
[21:28] <sheena1> shawn, where is compiz setting manager?
[21:29] <robbe-> IntuitiveNipple: I think we're not 100% talking about the same issue, may I pm you to clarify ?
[21:29] <Flannel> !ccsm | sheena1
[21:29] <Chubbz> @silentContender install the package 'gtkpod' and you should be able to use rhythmbox to transfer your files
[21:29] <IntuitiveNipple> robbe-:  sure
[21:29] <shwan> sheena1: sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:30] <alaz> sheena1, try fusion-icon too :)
[21:30] <silentContender> Chubbz, I managed to transfer the m4a files to the Ipod.  It recognizes the music, but it just skips them while playing
[21:30] <G-Bleezy> Will the memory test just run forever if you let it??
[21:30] <banisterfiend> what is the file extensino for  a 'theme package' file in ubuntu?
[21:30] <owner> what setting controls mouse sensitivity cause I can barely type anymore and it clicks for me
[21:30] <sheena1> shwan: getting compiz now. what is the next step?
[21:30] <shwan> sheena1: yes, fusion-icon is good too
[21:30] <sheena1> alaz, what's that?
[21:31] <Chubbz> @silentContender cant help you there, srry
[21:31] <silentContender> Thanks, anyways.  Can any one else help?
[21:31] <phyburn> how can I change the defualt kernel to a older kernel?
[21:31] <alaz> sheena1, if you install that i think you get all the deps for compiz fusion to work
[21:31] <G-Bleezy> google it
[21:32] <shwan> sheena1: preferences-- compizconfig -- workarounds and then in that you can disable legacy fullscreen support
[21:32] <silentContender> The only thing I can add is iTunes reads their m4a files as ACC and my m4a as m4a
[21:32] <alaz> sheena1, and the icon you when executing fusion-icon lets you configure everything.
[21:32] <guntbert> phyburn: you mean in the grub menu?
[21:32] <phyburn> yeah I'm sorry
[21:32] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello all, light question today : Looking for some links to some good & complete themes to try for Gnome on 8.10.  Please share :)
[21:32] <exodus_ms> I'm unsure if itunes works in ubuntu. I use the lastfm client found in the repos, when streaming songs from my lastfm account in the client application on ubuntu there is an option to purchase the song from itunes?
[21:32] <nectar> can somebody send me the output of  cat /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.10.jinfo
[21:33] <sheena1> shi found it in "system" "preferences" and it opened a window. i don't see anything about workarounds
[21:33] <Chubbz> @silentContender so your using itunes in wine?
[21:33] <shwan> phyburn: have you looked att grub howto ?
[21:33] <silentContender> Chubbz, No I'm dual booting Ubuntu and XP
[21:33] <gmathews> Hi, how do I install amarok 2 on ubuntu?
[21:33] <yeniklasorr> I'm using synergy. I can not change screen with mouse movement from server pc to client pc. But I can change screen client to server. Do you know the problem?
[21:33] <guntbert> phyburn: system/administration/startUpManager
[21:33] <Tobias2200> anyone here familiar with wlan under ubuntu? :-/
[21:33] <G-Bleezy> google
[21:33] <mattheas> Hi, I upgraded my kernal and now grub boots to the new kernel. When I boot to the new kernel, when it hits the loading screen it stops at the end. How do I remove the latest installation of the kernel I have?
[21:34] <G-Bleezy> mattheas i have that same problem...kind of...
[21:34] <shwan> sheena1: have you started compizconfig ?
[21:34] <sheena1> shwan, I found the workaround stuff. there's a bunch of check boxes. which ones to i want checked?
[21:34] <mattheas> When I force grub to boot to the older kernel it works fine though.
[21:34] <exodus_ms> mattheas, you can select to use the previous kernel at the grub menu
[21:34] <G-Bleezy> yea same here!
[21:34] <owner> what's the best ubuntu app site?
[21:34] <mattheas> exodus_ms, I know
[21:34] <Tobias2200> ugh this is driving me mad :S
[21:34] <G-Bleezy> mattheas wht does it say?
[21:34] <deany> edit menu.lst and set deafult
[21:34] <mrwes_> www.getdeb.com
[21:34] <mattheas> I want to remove the new one
[21:34] <G-Bleezy> for the error
[21:34] <mattheas> It works fine
[21:35] <exodus_ms> mattheas, you don;t need to remove the new one dude
[21:35] <sheena1> shwan, they are mostly already checked, including one that says "firefox menu fix" and a bunch of other ones
[21:35] <Chubbz> @mattheas do you have a graphics card?
[21:35] <shwan> sheena1:  uncheck the first one lgacy fullscreen
[21:35] <or4n_> Hey, how can I change Gnome volume OSD pictures?
[21:35] <G-Bleezy> Hey does anyone know if the memory test you can run at boot, if it ever ends??
[21:35] <tiredbones> My current release is 8.04 and I would like to upgrade to 8.01 using synaptic, but I'm unable to change the selection in Setting -> Preference - general. Can I do a dist-upgrade using synaptic?
[21:36] <gmathews> Hi, how do I install amarok 2 on ubuntu 8.10 anyone?
[21:36] <exodus_ms> G-Bleezy, how much ram
[21:36] <G-Bleezy> 512mb
[21:36] <deany> G-Bleezy, not that i know
[21:36] <G-Bleezy> it's going on 2.5 hours
[21:36] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hello
[21:36] <sheena1> shwan, is that it? just uncheck it and it should be fixed?
[21:36] <Chubbz> @G-Bleezy it doesnt stop
[21:36] <G-Bleezy> with over 2500 errors
[21:36] <deany> G-Bleezy, as long as it completes 1 full pass, thats enough
[21:36] <zleap> tiredbones, i have just logged in to 8.04 with a 8.10 cd in the drive,  upon login it detected a volume with packafges on and offered to open package manager,  perhaps that will work for you
[21:36] <G-Bleezy> are the errors really bad??\
[21:36] <shwan> sheena1: YES i tinhk , it did it for me
[21:36] <mrwes_> er..that's getdeb.net
[21:36] <deany> G-Bleezy, i`d think
[21:37] <sheena1> shwan, thanks. i'll check it out!
[21:37] <G-Bleezy> really...
[21:37] <G-Bleezy> and theres no way to fix them problem
[21:37] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> dpkg takes too much time in "Reading database...". is there any wya to speed it up?
[21:37] <G-Bleezy> probably except get new ram
[21:37] <shwan> Kamus_H_Zwisch: no
[21:37] <guntbert> G-Bleezy: the memory test doesn't stop until you stop it
[21:37] <Chubbz> @G-Bleezy get new ram
[21:37] <exodus_ms> gmathews, I don't think amarok 2 is available in the repos yet, you will need to find a source to add to your sources.list or find a download somewhere
[21:37] <ian[2]> Anyone have any suggestions? I'm running a fresh install of 8.10 Server and am trying to install subversion.. When I run apt-get install subversion I get "E: Couldn't find package subversion" .. surely this is simple, but I'm lost...
[21:37] <tiredbones> zleap, I was hoping not to burn a cd.
[21:37] <zleap> ah
[21:37] <benjamin_> gmathews: try this.  Didn't get a full chance to read it.  but might be some help. http://amarok.kde.org/forum/index.php?topic=15866.0
[21:37] <noogie> whats subversion
[21:37] <deany> memory isnt something you can fix
[21:37] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hm
[21:37] <_VIM_> !latest | gmathews (and this is why...)
[21:37] <zleap> thought you had a cd
[21:37] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> dammit =/
[21:37] <shwan> ian[2]: try aptitude instead ant use tab
[21:37] <silentContender> Why do m4a song ripped off a CD get skipped by my Ipod Nano gen 2?
[21:38] <Chubbz> @ian[2] you spelled the name of the package wrong
[21:38] <nickrud> !sources | ian[2]
[21:38] <sheena1> shwan, it's still doing it. I've figured out that it will reliably happen when i click a link in thunderbird that opens in firefo, then switch to firefox.
[21:38] <deany> silentContender, should be mp4?
[21:38] <nickrud> ian[2], the last link --- oh, server
[21:38] <dayo_> !svn | noogie
[21:38] <deany> silentContender, no idea, dont use ipod
[21:38] <Chubbz> @silentContender if you could convert the files to mp3, it'd work
[21:39] <nickrud> ian[2], compare your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://aphroneo.net/intrepid-sources.list , you probably have a problem with the lines that have main in them
[21:39] <ugliefrog> can someone look at this and tell me what i need to do http://paste.ubuntu.com/115782/
[21:39] <ian[2]> @Chubbz -- I spelled subversion wrong?
[21:39] <silentContender> Chubbz, I guess that might be the only way around it.
[21:39] <ian[2]> Thanks for the info -- I'll check the links provided and the sources.list mentioned
[21:39] <silentContender> Chubbz, Is there a program that can mass convert m4a to mp3?
[21:40] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, what are you trying to install
[21:40] <ugliefrog> xvidcap
[21:40] <IntuitiveNipple> silentContender: flaac and ffmpeg via a pipe
[21:40] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms"xvidcap
[21:40] <Chubbz> @silentContender no idea, check the google
[21:40] <silentContender> IntuitiveNipple, I'm not quite following you.
[21:41] <WebcamWonder> !info xvidcap
[21:41] <deany> silentContender, soundkonverter (with a K not a C)
[21:41] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, aptitude install xvidcap ?
[21:41] <aboSamoor1> I really want your help my kernel 2.6.27 can not boot from the live cd according to this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/115780/ ?
[21:41] <deany> best one ive tried.
[21:41] <IntuitiveNipple> silentContender: hang on... I've an article someplace on MP3 > MB4 ... it is the reverse process you want I think
[21:42] <sheena1> shwan, it's still doing it. I've figured out that it will reliably happen when i click a link in thunderbird that opens in firefo, then switch to firefox.
[21:42] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: its not the lastest and that version for some reason wont work
[21:42] <deany> the one closest to easy cd-da on windows
[21:42] <tiredbones> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto, accorden to these instruction I should beable to do a dist-upgrade. Are these instruction out of date?
[21:42] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: wait i havent tried aptitude
[21:42] <WebcamWonder> tiredbones: Do you want to upgrade?
[21:42] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, thats the sam try this   sudo apt-cache search xvidcap
[21:42] <deany> outputs to whatever you want, bitrates etc.. and supports ID3 tags
[21:42] <[T]ank> is it possible in an autorun.inf to have multiple menu options?
[21:43] <ugliefrog> ok
[21:43] <Flannel> !upgrade | tiredbones
[21:43] <tiredbones> WebcamWonder, I want to do a dist-upgrade
[21:43] <jimdog> Anyone any good with zenity scripts? need to pipe output into find command. eg output of list script ($ans1) gives me "disk,disk-1", when I then do find /media/{$ans1} -name ".jpg" it returns the error find '/media/{disk,disk-1} not found despite this working if I type it directly into the shell. Any ideas anyone?
[21:43] <jelly12gen> giu: just google it
[21:43] <WebcamWonder> tiredbones: Please look at Flannel (ubottu)'s links then
[21:43] <mattheas> k, sorry
[21:43] <mattheas> gf was calling
[21:43] <Flannel> tiredbones: Those instructions are specific to upgrading.  Nothing on that page actually mentions upgrading from version to version.
[21:43] <mattheas> so did anyone figure it out?
[21:43] <Funzo> hi everyone
[21:43] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, dont know if this is the version your looking for --> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=81535
[21:44] <thiebaude> Funzo: hi
[21:44] <Funzo> guys, could i have some help about rtorrent and how to config it?
[21:44] <Funzo> i have some questions :$
[21:44] <silentContender> IntuitiveNipple, Thanks but I think I'll try soundKonverter.  It sound pretty simple.
[21:44] <Funzo> hi thiebaude
[21:44] <DIL> install gtk2.0 and the other dependecy
[21:44] <guntbert> !ask | Funzo
[21:44] <mattheas> I upgraded the kernel and it won't boot. If I use the old kernel it works fine. how do I remove the new kernel or solve the problem
[21:44] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: thats where i got it from
[21:44] <jimdog> any zenity hackers in?
[21:45] <[T]ank> also... how can I enable ubuntu to use autorun.inf? I get an error saying "cannot find autorun program"
[21:45] <guntbert> !ot | jimdog
[21:45] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, what about here --> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xvidcap/   there is a version form december 2008?
[21:45] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: and when i i try to make i get that long message in the paste bin i posted
[21:45] <WebcamWonder> mattheas: Search for existing bugs on launchpad, and if not found, report as a regression?
[21:45] <spass> [T]ank: autorun is a M$ idea
[21:45] <Funzo> are there any rules for copy paste? if i have a text?
[21:45] <tiredbones> Flannel, look at the section titled, How to keep your system up-to-date, including the Kernel
[21:45] <mattheas> so there's no way to just remove the kernel upgrade
[21:45] <WebcamWonder> !pastebin | Funzo
[21:45] <DIL> mattheas: try unintalling from synatptic ie remove
[21:45] <Flannel> mattheas: The easiest thing to do is just use default: saved, and then append savedefault to your kernel you want to boot to
[21:45] <nickrud> mattheas, try  sudo apt-get install --reinstall <broken kernel>
[21:45] <thiebaude> !autorun
[21:45] <mattheas> or get grub to boot to an old kernel?
[21:46] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, try downloading the .deb
[21:46] <jimdog> kind of ubuntu related as the folder structure only works in U. But thanks, I'll head there now :-)
[21:46] <Flannel> tiredbones: Yes, but you're trying to go from 8.04 to 8.10, correct?
[21:46] <[T]ank> spass: yeah but ubuntu attempts to use it
[21:46] <WebcamWonder> exodus_ms: I believe the way currently kernel upgrades are handled is making a virtual package depend on the latest kernel. You could always make the working kernel the default boot option
[21:46] <nickrud> mattheas, which one broke, -11?
[21:46] <WebcamWonder> !who | mattheas
[21:46] <tiredbones> Flannel, that is what is dist-upgrade should do.
[21:47] <exodus_ms> WebcamWonder, ?
[21:47] <mattheas> nickrud, I believe so
[21:47] <nickrud> mattheas, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic  first, that may fix it.
[21:47] <WebcamWonder> exodus_ms: Oops. Sorry
[21:47] <exodus_ms> WebcamWonder, pass that along to mattheas
[21:47] <WebcamWonder> mattheas: I believe the way currently kernel upgrades are handled is making a virtual package depend on the latest kernel. You could always make the working kernel the default boot option
[21:47] <Mood> What does "System Setting" do in NetworkManager?
[21:47] <Flannel> tiredbones: No, that's not what a dist-upgrade does.  dist-upgrade will bring you up to date while also installing new packages (such as the new kernel), while this command *can* be used to go between versions, it won't by itself.
[21:47] <Mood> What is "System Setting" in Network-Manager?
[21:48] <Funzo> this is my rtorrent.rc file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115783/ , does it look okey? I want it to have unlimited resources and so. is 0 unlimited for the commands? :/
[21:48] <mattheas> WebcamWonder, How do I go about doing that. Maybe I just didn't see it in grub
[21:48] <Flannel> tiredbones: Synaptic can upgrade you from 8.04 to 8.10 in the same way you can use apt-get to do so.  Really, you ought to be following the instructions on the Upgrade Page that Ubottu gave you.
[21:48] <pzy> i'm using jaunty and since 2-3 days i cannot login to kde4.2 .xsession-errors gives a lot of org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply errors
[21:48] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, there is a .deb file here, did you try that   http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xvidcap/
[21:48] <tiredbones> Flannel,  thanks
[21:48] <Flannel> pzy: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[21:48] <guntbert> !jaunty | pzy
[21:48] <nickrud> pzy, ask in #ubuntu+1 , they handle jaunty till release
[21:48] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: Error: Dependencies not satisfiable error
[21:49] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, your missing gtk2?
[21:49] <thiebaude> tiredbones: run update-manager in a terminal
[21:49] <WebcamWonder> mattheas: /boot/grub/menu.lst, you can change the grub menu there. I am not quite sure how one would set the default option for grub, but someone in this channel might help
[21:49] <mattheas> k
[21:49] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: Error: I dont know now..it said something about libra...then i couldnt see the rst
[21:49] <thiebaude> tiredbones: if you wanted to upgrade that way
[21:50] <tiredbones> thiebaude, Thanks, i'll look into that
[21:50] <thiebaude> yw, tiredbones
[21:50] <pzy> thanks
[21:50] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, try make again and note the dependencies it says are missing
[21:50] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: Error: from the dab file?
[21:50] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: Error: from the deb file?
[21:51] <sheena1> on Intrepid, firefox covers taskbars sometimes. . Tried the fix on the ubuntu forum (changing the localstore file), and tried compiz. help?
[21:51] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, no, from the binaries you have for it, like before, but trying to install the .deb should have listed the dependencies you needed
[21:52] <juan_> OLA
[21:52] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: ok ill retry it and writr them down
[21:52] <juan_> OLA
[21:52] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, what version are you trying to install
[21:52] <guntbert> !es | juan_
[21:52] <_VIM_> !away > JamesMowery
[21:52] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: amd64
[21:53] <tiredbones> Flannel, I reread the pointer you gave and it seems that will work. thanks again.
[21:53] <Funzo> did anyone look at my rtorrent config? :$ I want some help... http://paste.ubuntu.com/115783/ that's my config. if I want rtorrent so use as much bandwidth and resources as it needs, is that right? max/minimum peers, what does that mean exactly?
[21:53] <ezzieyguywuf> i have a question that a little bit of googling didn't answer satisfactorily: if linux is open-source, why isn't it easier to write viruses for it?
[21:53] <phanter> hi there... can I install gdm without gnome? Because, when I type "aptitude install gdm" then it wants to install gnome fully
[21:53] <imdeveloper> hi there, i need codec  for *.avi
[21:53] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: #ubuntu-offtopic would be the better place to ask that
[21:53] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, are you trying to install the i386 versions
[21:53] <imdeveloper> what im going to install?
[21:53] <ezzieyguywuf> ok
[21:54] <chuckc> is there a way to completely remove a raid i have setup with mdadm.  I stop the raid, --zero-superblock all the disks, but still when i go to create a new raid, mdadm says the disks already belong to a raid.
[21:54] <spass> imdeveloper: w32codecs
[21:54] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: no the amd64
[21:54] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, what version of xvidcap
[21:55] <anom01y_2> any suggestions on switching from kde to xfce ?
[21:55] <aboSamoor1> Funzo: what is the problem I can not see any problem in the config file ?
[21:55] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: 1.1.7
[21:55] <exodus_ms> anom01y_2, install xfce and choose it form the 'session' at the log in
[21:56] <anom01y_2> do I just install xfce4 and start using it ? or should I change some system settings also ?
[21:56] <thiebaude> anom01y_2: it's much more lightweight to go from kde to xfce
[21:56] <anom01y_2> ahh
[21:56] <blondel> ciao
[21:56] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: it says error dependecies libavcodec52 and libravcodec-unstipped-52
[21:56] <thiebaude> anom01y_2: i also use fluxbox
[21:56] <anom01y_2> how do I get rid of the kubuntu startup bar graph, when I reset the computer ?
[21:57] <Funzo> aboSamoor1, I don't get any peers :S when i mark a torrent and to see the peer list it is empty. but i know there are some peers... what could the problem be?
[21:57] <anom01y_2> !fluxbox
[21:57] <yoyit2> I need some help im unnung ubuntu 8.10 and i want to connect my xbox to my computer with a ethernet cord so my xbox 360 has insternet to play online how do you do this
[21:57] <thiebaude> thanks
[21:57] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: binaries when i try make has differnet errors
[21:57] <lucax> anom01y_2: sudo update-alternatives --config ubuntu-usplash.so or something like that try pressing tabe to autocomplete the sentece and ull get to what u want to do
[21:57] <yoyit2> I need some help im unnung ubuntu 8.10 and i want to connect my xbox to my computer with a ethernet cord so my xbox 360 has insternet to play online how do you do this
[21:57] <blondel> !list
[21:58] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, did you try and install libavcodec52 and libravcodec-unstipped-52
[21:58] <giovani> yoyit2: you'd have to set up your ubuntu box as a router
[21:58] <yoyit2> giovani: how do you do that
[21:58] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: no not yet ...from command line or synaptic
[21:58] <giovani> that's not terribly simple -- why do you want to plug your xbox directly into your ubuntu box?
[21:58] <yoyit2> giovani:  what do you mean bye ubuntu box
[21:59] <aboSamoor1> Funzo: are you behind a router ?
[21:59] <giovani> yoyit2: "box" is slang for computer
[21:59] <giovani> yoyit2: do you not have a router already?
[21:59] <sheena1> on Intrepid, firefox covers taskbars sometimes. . Tried the fix on the ubuntu forum (changing the localstore file), and tried compiz. help?
[21:59] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, take a look here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/amd64/xvidcap/1.1.6-0.1ubuntu3
[21:59] <yoyit2> giovani: ok how do i set it up as a router
[21:59] <Funzo> aboSamoor1, yes, open firewall, open ports. i have used wine+utorrent before
[21:59] <Funzo> i know that works
[21:59] <yoyit2> giovani: i am useing a laptop ya i have a router
[21:59] <skate2> is there a command that shows all the privileges a user has on the whole system?
[21:59] <giovani> yoyit2: it's not a simple process -- I'm trying to evaluate your situation, because there are probably better ways to accomplish what you want
[22:00] <deany> Funzo, transmission however simple, works for me
[22:00] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, you might need to install this xvidcap_1.1.6-0.1ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[22:00] <giovani> yoyit2: what's preventing you from plugging in your xbox directly into your router?
[22:00] <aboSamoor1> Funzo: are you sure that the ports open in the router are in the same range as rtorrent ?
[22:00] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: ill try that
[22:00] <lucax> if theres any developer here, it would be nice if you guys change the horrible HUMAN them! thanks ;)
[22:00] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, the download for that .deb is in the lin I just posted at launchpad
[22:00] <yoyit2> giovani:  im not near the router or any ethernet ports im useing my laptop because its wireless it worked with vista
[22:00] <cjae> !googleearth
[22:00] <Funzo> yup positive. but i have downloaded one torrent and it worked
[22:00] <giovani> yoyit2: a wireless ethernet bridge would really be the proper solution then
[22:01] <yoyit2> giovani: how would i do that
[22:01] <Funzo> but when it finished the peer list dissapeared, is that how it's supposed to be?
[22:01] <giovani> yoyit2: you would buy a wireless ethernet bridge -- I'm betting microsoft even sells them specially for the xbox, but any one sold by any networking company would work
[22:01] <thiebaude> cjae: kewl
[22:01] <adante> hi guys, is there a way i can either (a) disable reverse lookups in pam or (b) allow reverse lookups for wins?
[22:02] <yoyit2> giovani:  no what i want to do is plug my laptop to my xbox so i can play only i did it with vista without doing anything
[22:02] <cjae> ok I install google earth but it keeps crashing and complains about ttf-bitstream-vera not being installed? surely fonts aren't the reason for the crash? btw those fonts are on my system
[22:02] <skate2> how do you print an EOF character in vim?
[22:02] <giovani> yoyit2: you can do it that way, but it's not terribly simple, and, I'd advise against it -- someone else will have to guy you if you can't google for instructions
[22:03] <cjae> !kewl
[22:03] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: installed but doesnt work.....I wonder if its because of the gtk 2.4 thing ..Dont know what that means tho
[22:03] <Funzo> im gonna go to rtorrents irc :P thanks anyways
[22:03] <yoyit2> giovani: i know its probly not simple and you guid me though the insturctions
[22:03] <SwirlBoy39> hi yaamak
[22:03] <yoyit2> giovani: can you guide me
[22:04] <giovani> yoyit2: no, because I advise against it
[22:04] <yoyit2> giovani:  why
[22:04] <giovani> maybe someone else will
[22:04] <giovani> because it's a bad solution to a simple problem
[22:04] <yoyit2> giovani:  why cant you
[22:05] <giovani> yoyit2: I'm not going to argue with you -- I told you why, bye
[22:05] <_VIM_> wont and cant are two different things yoyit2
[22:05] <yuka_> how to record audio (not using gnome)?
[22:05] <yuka_> (with a mic)
[22:05] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, you can try this --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/gtk2.0-examples
[22:05] <giovani> yuka_: you're looking for something console-based, or kde-based, or what?
[22:05] <yoyit2> _VIM_: what do you mean didnt he say it was possible
[22:05] <yuka_> giovani: console would be nice
[22:06] <yoyit2> giovani: why do you advise agianst it
[22:06] <_VIM_> yoyit2: nevermind
[22:06] <yuka_> giovani: i found sound-recorder but don't know how to use it.
[22:06] <giovani> yuka_: arecord will work
[22:06] <giovani> I don't know sound-recorder -- did you read the manpage?
[22:06] <giovani> yoyit2: I've already told you twice now
[22:07] <G-Bleezy> Hey how can i re-compile this new kernel? It's not booting right and i wanna try to just have it do it again to see if it can get it right...
[22:07] <yuka_> giovani: yes, didn't see example for usage.
[22:07] <yoyit2> _VIM_: i dont understand sorry but im confused so is it impossible
[22:07] <yuka_> giovani: what would u use for xubuntu>
[22:07] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, or look in synaptic for gtk 2
[22:07] <giovani> yuka_: xubuntu isn't a desktop environment, so it doesn't have an impact on what application you use
[22:08] <prahal> ok I tried uswsusp ubuntu version .. and it is outdated, broken and not well integrated . What is the way hibernate is supposed to be configured under ubuntu
[22:08] <yoyit2> giovani: im sorry but i dont remember you telling me why
[22:08] <cjae> anyone
[22:08] <giovani> yoyit2: I did, twice, go read your logs
[22:08] <yuka_> giovani: so what would u recommend>
[22:08] <giovani> yuka_: I told you, arecord works fine
[22:08] <yoyit2> giovani: i did but ill look agian 1 sec
[22:08] <yuka_> giovani: ok, i'll try it. thanks
[22:08] <mib_5pbnh9> Hi as anyone got amarok 2.0 to work in gnome - or is there an equivalent player for gnome?
[22:09] <thiebaude> mib_5pbnh9: have you used songbird before?
[22:09] <giovani> yoyit2: the method you'd be attempting is a bad solution, it's clunky, it's not properly sustainable, it requires the laptop every time, and it's a messy hack -- get a real wireless adapter or wireless ethernet bridge, period, if you want to do it another way, that's your decision, maybe someone else will feel like guiding you through that
[22:09] <ethana21> so after I do a  dpkg -l > apt.list
[22:09] <ethana21> how do I make apt install everything in that list?
[22:09] <ivancho_> chuckc: mdadm -r ?
[22:10] <mib_5pbnh9> Hi is there an auto mounting tool for ext3 partitions?
[22:10] <exodus_ms> mib_5pbnh9, there are plenty of media players available banshee and rythhmbox for starters
[22:11] <yoyit2> giovani: oh sorry about that now i know what you were saying but im kinda confused why i would buy a wireless ethernet bridge when i can just plug them directly into each other thats what i did with vista and it was plug and play
[22:11] <Peteed> how can I save my iptables rules in XML useing iptables-xml?
[22:11] <ivancho> mib_5pbnh9: what do you want exactly with this auto mounting tool?
[22:11] <giovani> yoyit2: I've told you why, stop asking
[22:11] <billisnice> how to update automatically with 8.04.2?
[22:11] <sambagirl> is roundcube a good choice for a different email? i think there is another project starting with a C ?
[22:12] <sambagirl> is imp/horde the best choice?
[22:12] <yoyit2> giovani:  no you didnt i dont have 100$ to buy one thats how much they cost
[22:12] <giovani> sambagirl: roundcube is alright -- it's definitely still a beta product, and, has had a number of security problems
[22:12] <sambagirl> yes i rad that fiovani
[22:12] <sambagirl> giovani
[22:12] <sambagirl> sorry
[22:12] <giovani> sambagirl: imp/horde is an old standby, definitely stable
[22:12] <sambagirl> yes but i was burned on that before
[22:12] <giovani> sambagirl: all depends on your needs -- I use both side-by-side
[22:12] <sambagirl> 3 times actually.
[22:12] <sambagirl> you use both?
[22:12] <stevja> Have some of you tried Ubuntu MID on Acer aspire one v. 8GB SSD? I want to go away from fedora linpus.
[22:13] <sambagirl> on the same system?
[22:13] <cjae> is anyone running the newest version of google earth successfully, I believe it is 4.3?
[22:13] <giovani> sambagirl: yes, I give our users both as an option, on the same webmail system
[22:13] <sambagirl> ahh
[22:13] <sambagirl> i see.
[22:13] <giovani> sambagirl: also look at atmailopen
[22:13] <sambagirl> i never thought of that.
[22:13] <cjae> well newest from medibuntu
[22:13] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: newest version of Earth is 5.0. It is a lot faster than 4.3
[22:13] <giovani> sambagirl: http://atmail.org/
[22:13] <sambagirl> thanks giovani brbv
[22:13] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: But, I've run all versions without problems
[22:13] <sambagirl>  brb
[22:13] <giovani> sambagirl: it's a previously commercial product that has been released as open source now
[22:14] <yoyit2> giovani: well can you give me a link or somthing to tell me how to do it
[22:14] <sheena1> on Intrepid, firefox covers taskbars after i click a link in thunderbird. Tried the fix on the ubuntu forum (changing the localstore file), and tried compiz. help?
[22:14] <MasterMoose> Hi,
[22:14] <MasterMoose> Who can giude a newbie with Webcams and Skype
[22:14] <prahal> MasterMoose, what s your issue ?
[22:15] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: ok but it keeps crashing for me and says I don't have ttf-bitstream-vera installed and I do, I works if you switch it to sky but not earth
[22:15] <prahal> not detected ? which ubuntu/kernel do you use ?
[22:15] <MasterMoose> hi Prahal.. I have a USB webcam, and a PCi TV tuner. Skype only recognises the Tuner and not the Web cam.. CamStream recognises both
[22:15] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: What Ubuntu release is that on? Intrepid or Hardy or... ?
[22:15] <cjae> 8.10
[22:16] <yoyit2> giovani: well thanks anyways ill just use vista because its beter
[22:16] <giovani> yoyit2: thanks for trolling
[22:16] <LHC> hey
[22:16] <LHC> i just installed ubuntu, can someone helped me with compiz
[22:16] <alaz> MasterMoose, unplug the device and open up a shell write: tail -f /var/log/messages and plug the device back in. see what it says
[22:16] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: intrepid and I can't find any info about on google either,
[22:16]  * KevDog laughs: "well thanks anyways ill just use vista because its beter"
[22:17] <tinker> Hi.  I'm Ubuntu 8.10,  how can I delete options from the "open with" context menu in nautilus?
[22:17] <sambagirl> umm giovani i am so used to using horde/imp that i just dont know about these ajax flashy things.
[22:17] <alaz> LHC, apt-get install fusion-icon should give all deps and a nice config tool
[22:17] <LHC> thanks
[22:17] <sambagirl> there is another one that starts with a C but i forget the name of it.
[22:17] <LHC> I did installed compiz manager and it didnt really work
[22:17] <sambagirl> its on my macbook but i odnt have it here with me.
[22:18] <LHC> alaz, what do I do after than
[22:18] <sambagirl> is there a way to install the email server via synape supository manager?
[22:18] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: I assume maybe that there is something missing from my auto generated xorg.conf but I have everything else working, and no onboard graphics (nvidia card)
[22:18] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: As an experiment, create a new *clean* user account, log-in as that user, and try Earth. If that works at least you'll know it is a user-profile issue. On the other hand, it might prove it is a system issue
[22:18] <sambagirl> should i use ebox for it?
[22:19] <alaz> LHC, exec fusion-icon from a shell
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: it can be quite complex
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> !email | sambagirl
[22:19] <LHC> thanks alaz
[22:19] <ian[2]> Still having trouble using apt-get & aptitude to install subversion.. Getting "E: Couldn't find package subversion." Anyone else have any suggestions?
[22:19] <alaz> LHC, should create a icon in your tray that you can right click and play with
[22:19] <quibbler> tinker: right click the file in nautilus choose properties open with and delete what you don't want
[22:19] <giovani> sambagirl: yes, any package can be installed via synapse
[22:19] <MasterMoose> Hi Alaz just sent the result to you
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[22:19] <giovani> sambagirl: I don't know of any webmail that starts with a c, sorry
[22:19] <sambagirl> actuionparsnip i just dont want to get burned by email seciurity things anytime soon.
[22:19] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: you already have a mailserver installed by default
[22:20] <sambagirl> iwhat like pine?
[22:20] <sambagirl> bah
[22:20] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: it in kde 4.2 which is buggy to say the least but I have read ppl with similar issue but no kde and no followup
[22:20] <tinker> quibbler:  thanks!
[22:20] <sambagirl> thats like using vi
[22:20] <giojotoca> join #ubuntu-es
[22:20] <zash> sambagirl: round Cube webmail?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> nowt wrong with vi
[22:20] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: pine is a mail client not a server
[22:20] <sambagirl> zash i looked at it. i will think about it.
[22:20] <KevDog> ian[2]: Have you enabled all of your repositories?
[22:21] <sambagirl> ahh ok i did not know that.
[22:21] <LHC> alaz, this is cool
[22:21] <LHC> i got the spinning desktop thing
[22:21] <LHC> do you know the bind to switch desktops
[22:21] <sambagirl> you got the clube lhc?
[22:21] <prahal> MasterMoose, I bet "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype"
[22:21] <zash> sambagirl: squirrelmail is pretty god
[22:21] <LHC> yes sambagirl
[22:21] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: mail servers are sendmail, postfix, exim, qmail .....
[22:21] <sambagirl> squirellmail
[22:21] <sambagirl> oh ok
[22:22] <KevDog> Flurdy has a good post in the Ubuntu Forums about setting up a mail server
[22:22] <prahal> just a guess. With more input it will be easier to find out
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: zimbra exists too
[22:22] <sambagirl> YES zimbra
[22:22] <thiebaude> yo yo yo
[22:22] <sambagirl> yes yea yea
[22:22] <ian[2]> KevDog: How do I go about doing that?
[22:22] <thiebaude> lol
[22:22] <sambagirl> vthat is it zimbra
[22:22] <sambagirl> yes
[22:22] <sambagirl> brb
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo thiebaude
[22:22] <FloodBot1> sambagirl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <ian[2]> I'm a former Fedora user, and not familiar with Ubuntu yet..
[22:22] <thiebaude> what's up ActionParsnip
[22:22] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: webmail = squirlemail, roundcube, horde .....
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: chillin
[22:22] <thiebaude> me too
[22:23] <sambagirl> i use horde/imp right now.
[22:23] <sheena11> on Intrepid, firefox covers taskbars after i click a link in thunderbird. Tried the fix on the ubuntu forum (changing the localstore file), and tried compiz. help?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> ian[2]: well we're here to support
[22:23] <sambagirl> but i think i will use zimbra as the alternative.
[22:23] <sambagirl> they have clients for osx and windows
[22:23] <KevDog> ian[2]: edit your /etc/apt/sources list and make sure multiverse and universe repositories are enabled by removing the # sign in the front of the line, and then sudo aptitude update
[22:23] <LHC> does compiz come with themes
[22:23] <LHC> I hate the stock theme
[22:23] <sambagirl> thanks i forgot all about zimbra
[22:23] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: multiplatform client, try thunderbird
[22:24] <s3a> y doesnt xournal work in intrepid? the exact same version works in debian lenny!
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> s3a: dont install debian debs on ubuntu
[22:24] <ian[2]> KevDog: running that now.. Thanks for the info.. I'm more familiar with yum than apt/aptitude... so this is all new to me..
[22:24] <sambagirl> well there are problems with firefox lately the latest update is faulty and i am losing my confidence in the firefox project sorta.
[22:24] <jara04> hello,. i've got a problem i can't install 8.04 when i press to install, the installation program takes me to the shell, i don't wat to work with 8.10.. what can i do?
[22:24] <KevDog> ian[2]: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:24] <ian[2]> KevDog: Okay -- it's working now...
[22:24] <s3a> ActionParsnip, i installed from repository not from debian (it's the same version)
[22:24] <prahal> I for one use dovecot + (horde/im, roundcube and evolution/kmail/thunderbird)
[22:24] <KevDog> ian[2]: Just wanted to clarify
[22:25] <ian[2]> KevDog: I guess it was the update I needed to run.. The multiverse & universe weren't commented out...
[22:25] <chuckc> is there a way to completely clear out existing mdadm raid setups ?
[22:25] <The_Rebel> sambagirl, i've been hearing the same thing from others (even on different OSes)
[22:25] <The_Rebel> glad i didn't update :p
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> s3a: then check configs
[22:25] <prahal> and fetchmail/procmail to get all the emails in dovecot as maildirs
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> !raid | chuckc
[22:25] <KevDog> ian[2]: I wasnt sure what repository it was in, so sorry
[22:25] <s3a> ActionParsnip, o wait i meant xournal works in intrepid but it doesn't write
[22:25] <ian[2]> KevDog: I'm running this as my sources.list..
[22:25] <ivancho> chuckc: try mdadm -r /dev/mdX
[22:25] <thiebaude> The_Rebel: can't wait until  google chrome is ready for linux
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !info xournal
[22:26] <KevDog> ian[2]: General tip to upgrade packages: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> s3a: why not just use gedit?
[22:26] <The_Rebel> i second that thiebaude, Chrome is awesome.
[22:26] <thiebaude> i used it on xp
[22:26] <s3a> ActionParsnip, use gedit to do wat?
[22:26] <The_Rebel> samzies
[22:26] <ian[2]> KevDog: Thanks.. Is aptitude similar to apt as svn is similar to cvs?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> The_Rebel: try opera, kicks ass outta firefox
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> s3a: take notes
[22:27] <jara04> ello,. i've got a problem i can't install 8.04 when i press to install, the installation program takes me to the shell, i don't wat to work with 8.10.. what can i do?
[22:27] <thiebaude> i agree ActionParsnip
[22:27] <The_Rebel> opera has a lame GUI.
[22:27] <Flannel> ian[2]: No, aptitude is a frontend to apt, much like apt-get is a frontend, synaptic is a frontend, etc.
[22:27] <The_Rebel> i like the magic wand feature though
[22:27] <s3a> ActionParsnip, no i rely need a feature of it, tomboy is even better than gedit for notes
[22:27] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: i problem was installing flash on opera
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> The_Rebel: skin it then
[22:27] <thiebaude> my
[22:27] <KevDog> ian[2]: Yes I think today aptitude and apt-get are virtually the same and interchangeable.  I think aptitude handles dependencies better (or at least it used to).  I prefer aptitude but perhaps I'm biased from the old days
[22:28] <deany> if some other browser had the addons i use in FF i might consider them...
[22:28] <nightrid3r> jara04: which cd did you download, the alternate uses a text interface to install
[22:28] <sambagirl> do i need openfiler with this webmail project?
[22:28] <prahal> MasterMoose, any success ?
[22:28] <thiebaude> deany: flock?
[22:28] <deany> nothing can replace my FF + plugins...
[22:28] <ian[2]> KevDog: Thanks again for the info.. Everything is installed and working now.. If you're ever in Oklahoma City, I owe you a beer! thanks again
[22:28] <KevDog> ian[2]: Sometimes however when aptitude isn't working or giving me strange messages, I defer to apt-get and the install works!
[22:28] <chuckc> ivancho: thanks but when i try and create a new raid, i get this mdadm: /dev/sdb1 appears to be part of a raid array
[22:28] <jara04> nightrid3r, i downloaded the ubuntu desktop edition 32 bits
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[22:29] <thiebaude> thanks
[22:29] <_VIM_> That's the only things lacking in Opera,,,, stuff like the  Delcious extension
[22:29] <jara04> nightrid3r, what can i do to make the installation through commands?
[22:29] <thiebaude> i'll go and install opera now
[22:29] <nightrid3r> jara04: try adding vga=vesa when booting (use F6 key) see if that helps
[22:29] <jara04> ok
[22:29] <deany> im antisocial so i dont do "social networking" lol
[22:30] <skate2> how do you print an EOF character in vim?
[22:30] <The_Rebel> lol opera just crashed while i tried watching a video on gametrailers
[22:30] <skate2> is there a command that shows all the privileges a user has on the whole system?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: could always use firepup too
[22:30] <The_Rebel> great browser indeed
[22:30] <skate2> ignore my first question please
[22:30] <prahal> nobody uses hibernation under ubuntu :-/ what do you use to setup the swap/suspend partition ?
[22:30] <The_Rebel> im sure it has a mplayer plugin too
[22:30] <The_Rebel> *sarcasm*
[22:30] <thiebaude> what is firepup?
[22:31] <sinmok> uh hi
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: its a very small / fast custom version of firefox
[22:31] <sinmok> I was wondering if any of you could help me?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: theres a million different web browsers, just seems recently everyone if firefox branwashed
[22:31] <prahal> skate2, groups <user> or do you want to see all the access to each file he has ? find / -user <uid>
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !ask | sinmok
[22:31] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: are you able to install flash on it?
[22:31] <thiebaude> your right
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: sure
[22:32] <prahal> skate2, or more precisely "for g in $(groups <user>);do find / -group g;done will be slow but complete
[22:32] <_VIM_> !away > gsteinert_away
[22:33] <skate2> thanks Prahal
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> prahal: nice
[22:33] <sinmok> okay. Basically, ive been a vista user and ive managed to get ubuntu working exactly how i like it. The only thing i have left to get working is my subwoofer, at the moment i have no bass at all. I'm using a Qosmio F50 laptop. Can anyone help?
[22:34] <nightrid3r> sinmok: a little more info about the soundcard will help us answer your question
[22:34] <sinmok> What do you need?
[22:34] <ethana21> so I do a  dpkg --get-selections
[22:34] <nightrid3r> sinmok: what type of ard do you have
[22:34] <rozwell> so i get "undefined reference to `dlopen`" errors trying to build some stuff. i'm wondering what package i would need to fix this
[22:34] <ethana21> ...then I have the list..  then what do I do to install it all?
[22:34] <prahal> skate2, oups for g in $(groups <user>);do find / -group $g;done (mind the missing $ beforehand)
[22:35] <jochenh> Hey! Can anyone help me with this problem: http://pastebin.com/m6d855b26 ?
[22:35] <sinmok> Model: HDA Intel Sound Card
[22:35] <Dr_willis> !clone
[22:35] <sinmok> According to the device manager
[22:35] <SwitchMon44> sinmok open a command prompt and type "alsamixer"
[22:35] <skate2> prahal but how do i know what privileges a group has
[22:35] <ethana21> Dr_willis: thanks
[22:35] <nightrid3r> sinmok: i have no experience with that card but maybe someone else can help you
[22:35] <Dr_willis> ethana21,  i tend to break it into smaller steps.. :) but thats the gist of it all. :)
[22:36] <sinmok> alsa is open, what now
[22:36] <ethana21> wait, all those special chars
[22:36] <ethana21> now I'm confused
[22:36] <SwitchMon44> sinmok press tab until the "View:Playback" is highlighted.  How many channels do you have?
[22:37] <ethana21> ah, ok..
[22:37] <sinmok> By channel, do you mean the bar that appears?
[22:37] <SwitchMon44> sinmok yes
[22:37] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: ?
[22:38] <sinmok> SwitchMon44: sorry im a little confused, there seems to be more than one "view playback"
[22:38] <sinmok> oh, wait no, there's one bar
[22:38] <|Edgar|> Is anybody out there?
[22:38] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: only one?
[22:38] <jochenh> Can anyone help me with this X Server Problem http://pastebin.com/m6d855b26 ?
[22:39] <Xenos> Heh. mIRC under wine beats Xchat :-P
[22:39] <sinmok> yes. it says Card/Chip pulseaudio too
[22:39] <carpii> Xenos, maybe, but it looks fugly :/
[22:39] <giovani> Xenos: hahahaha
[22:39] <giovani> you mean beats xchat at having the most number of remote execution vulnerabilities?
[22:39] <skate2> xenos do you use winetricks
[22:39] <|Edgar|> I have ubuntu 8.10. When I installed I don't believe I was asked for a root password. Is there a default root password?
[22:39] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: just wanted to say thanks for last night, i managed to fix most of my problems, which where obviously more complicated then i imagined...
[22:40] <zash> |Edgar|: ubuntu does not use a root password
[22:40] <giovani> |Edgar|: by default, you cannot log into the root account directly -- using sudo with your own user's password is recommended
[22:40] <nightrid3r> !root | |Edgar|
[22:40] <|Edgar|> Can I do su at a prompt?
[22:40] <zash> |Edgar|: use sudo -s
[22:40] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: do your satellite speakers work?
[22:41] <|Edgar|> Thanks I will try that.
[22:41] <sinmok> Yeah, they do.
[22:41] <zash> |Edgar|: sudo -s gives you a root shell
[22:41] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: is it a 5.1 surround system?
[22:41] <skate2> isnt a root shell just as dangerous as logging in as root?
[22:41] <sinmok> Erm, I wouldnt know. How can I find out?
[22:41] <nightrid3r> skate2: anything root is dangerous
[22:41] <Xenos> skate2: Winetricks? No
[22:42] <lucax> how can i save files of openoffice in .xml?
[22:42] <makito249> Can fetchmail store email passwords in gnome-keyring?
[22:42] <edoceo> Which package contains: libfontconfig.so.1?
[22:42] <zash> skate2: about as dangerous as prefixing everything with sudo
[22:42] <rockyrock> I have a dual boot, XP and Ubuntu. I have some drives in XP in ntfs and i want to convert them into ext3 to be used in Ubuntu and to let ubuntu mount them automatically after booting. How to do that?
[22:42] <giovani> skate2: "dangerous" is relative -- giving out the root password, rather than controlling who can use sudo and what they can execute with it is clearly more secure
[22:43] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: how many satellite speakers do you have?
[22:43] <NETabuse> Hi guys. simple problem with dvd playback here, i'm on intrepid 64bit. i added medibuntu repo, try install libdvdcss2, still no joy..
[22:43] <sinmok> 2
[22:43] <NETabuse> using vlc and totem have both failed to playback the dvd
[22:43] <sinmok> There's sound coming out of both of them.
[22:43] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: but nothing out of your sub?
[22:44] <sinmok> correct
[22:44] <skate2> isnt it sudo -i, not sudo -s?
[22:44] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: what is your sub plugged into?
[22:44] <marcella> ciao
[22:44] <kebomix_> hello , any active channel for asp.net ?
[22:44] <sinmok> it's a built in subwoofer in my laptop
[22:44] <lucax> some one know how to save files as .xml with openoffice?
[22:44] <Clunk> NETabuse try to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:44] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: what laptop model?
[22:45] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: i installed and ran opera and flash is already available
[22:45] <sinmok> Toshiba Qosmio F50
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> edoceo: try apt-file
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: there yuo go then ;)
[22:45] <thiebaude> cool man
[22:45] <NETabuse> Cunk will try that.
[22:45] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: you still use fluxbox?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: yeah i switch between that and compiz which i find hilarious
[22:46] <NETabuse> have my box set of 24 season 6 that i want to finish ... grrrr
[22:46] <slusken> Anyone found a solution to the powermizer problem? (powermizer performance level wont go above 1)
[22:46] <ian[1]> How can I automatically start a process at boot time in 8.10 server?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> !bum | iam[
[22:46] <thiebaude> i wish i had a 3d card for compiz
[22:46] <Jewbacca> hi, how to get to mouse registry?
[22:47] <quibbler> lucax: save as and choose xml
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: im only using an onboard GeForce 6250
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: how do you mean?
[22:47] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip:  hi, on windows i could get to registery area where i can edit still like mouse settings by entering numbers
[22:47] <lucax> quibbler: i get an error... cant do it... any ideas?
[22:47] <thiebaude> i have a 3 yr old computer that doesn't do 3d rendering
[22:47] <bioshake> Hey guys - my swap is at 0.0% is that normal?  Shouldn't it be using something?
[22:47] <wil_> Hi, I used vmware to mount a 1GB usb flash drive and using freenas, I made it the boot drive... it works fine, but I want to turn it back to a 1GB flash drive! how do I do it! I cant see the drive in windows and ubuntu only sees it as a 30 meg drive :(
[22:47] <thiebaude> intel i815
[22:47] <thiebaude> on board
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> !mouse | Jewbacca
[22:48] <cjae> !bug
[22:48] <giovani> bioshake: no ... using swap is NOT desirable, it's for emergencies only
[22:48] <rockyrock> guys i have problem with torrents in ubuntu. Yesterday i was download some files using Transmission BitTorrent Client, but when i rebooted i didn't find the files in Transmission BitTorrent Client!
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> bioshake: thats fine, if you arent filling your ram it will not be used
[22:49] <thiebaude> yup, swap is for when you run out of memory
[22:49] <rockyrock> But the files was on the drive
[22:49] <rockyrock> *were
[22:49] <bioshake> OK thanks - isn't swap used for hibnernation as well
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> giovani: its not for emergencies, its for when ram is exhausted
[22:49] <prahal_> skate2, did you get my reply ? connection issues for a minute
[22:49] <giovani> ActionParsnip: that's an emergency on any system
[22:49] <deany> bioshake, windows would.. sorry, your ubuntu wont use it unless it needs it.. sorry
[22:49] <thiebaude> haha
[22:49] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: its not what i needed
[22:49] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: like on xp where i can regedit numbers
[22:49] <rockyrock> the torrent reached only 70% but when i opened the client again i didn't find the file in the client to continue the download
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: linux doesnt have a registry..what are you trying to achieve
[22:50] <luciel> Hello everyone, just wondering if there is any documentation on using Ubuntu 8.10 with a KVM switch?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> !kvm
[22:50] <G-Blunted> whats a KVM switch?
[22:50] <Jewbacca> i know i was there before i just couldnt remember how ActionParsnip
[22:50] <rockyrock> I told the torrent client to download the files on an ntfs drive. Is this the problem???
[22:50] <giovani> sigh
[22:50] <bioshake>  Ubuntu only uses swap if you are out of RAM?  and doesn't use it for suspending / hibernation?
[22:50] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: it wasnt regedit but it was like the same windows as xp
[22:50] <giovani> KVM != "KVM Switch"
[22:50] <thiebaude> !kvm
[22:50] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i could put numbers to change lets say acceleration
[22:50] <giovani> luciel: there's nothing to know or configure
[22:50] <MoTec> a kvm switch allows you to use one keyboard, video/monitor, and mouse to control multiple pcs
[22:51] <skate2> prahal no
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: thats in mouse settings, you change mouse accelleration there
[22:51] <giovani> luciel: there's no drivers involved, so nothing relating to the OS
[22:51] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: yes but i also had a place where i could enter a number
[22:51] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: so your laptop has a built in subwoofer?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you arent using windows now so the regedit stuff you know doesnt apply
[22:51] <G-Blunted> lol
[22:51] <prahal_> bioshake, it should use it for hibernation (one could use a file but the default is the swap ... though I cannot tell you why if it does not as that s why I came here to ask
[22:52] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: someone gave me that option on ubuntu forum and i forgot it
[22:52] <yoyit2> does anyone here know how to use firestarter
[22:52] <luciel> giovani, I've been trying to diagnose the problem. I have two machines, one of which is dual-booting into Ubuntu 8.10. If I use the monitor and keyboard/mouse plugged directly in, there's no problem. If I use the KVM Switch my monitor remains blank.
[22:52] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: so i do have it
[22:52] <Clunk> can anybody say the name to the lateral bar??
[22:52] <prahal_> On debian it does for a long time at least but ubuntu have an old uswsusp
[22:52] <giovani> luciel: sounds like the kvm switch is broken -- ubuntu has nothing to do with it
[22:52] <giovani> or something with your video card, and kvm switch combination
[22:52] <luciel> giovani, Well, I considered this, yet the machine is also running Windows - and the KVM works fine then.
[22:52] <prahal_> Jewbacca, driconf
[22:53] <giovani> there's no OS involvement
[22:53] <lstarnes> Clunk: what lateral bar?
[22:53] <lucax> yoyit2: configure it but for it to run u have to comment some lines in /etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh i believe its from it says if mask until if
[22:53] <slusken> anyone know of a guide on how to install Nvidia graphics drivers for linux newbies ubuntu 8.10. tried installing but ended up having to reformat pc :P thanks alot!
[22:53] <sinmok> Switchmon: Yes it does - sorry for the late reply
[22:53] <quibbler> lucax: no idea i've never done it myself ....just did it and it works fine  ....still don't know why it doesn't for you
[22:53] <Jewbacca> prahal whats that? D:
[22:53] <Clunk> lstarnes: like the lateral bar on vista
[22:53] <Jewbacca> prahal_: whats that
[22:54] <prahal_> Jewbacca, the gui to setup everything related to acceleration
[22:54] <Jewbacca> how to get there
[22:54] <yoyit2> lucax: what im tying to hook my laptop to my xbox so i can play online
[22:54] <lstarnes> Clunk: I don't use vista.  Do you mean the bars at the top and bottom of the screen?
[22:54] <thiebaude> panels
[22:54] <n8tuser> yoyit2 -> you're back to troll again? if you dislike ubuntu why do you keep coming back?
[22:54] <Pyles17> does anyone know why an intel 3945 wireless card would show up "UNCLAIMED"? ubuntu comes with the driver, but it doesn't work
[22:55] <prahal_> Jewbacca, sudo apt-get install driconf
[22:55] <Clunk> lstarnes: no, lateral bar to show disk usage for example
[22:55] <Jewbacca> no no i wasnt suppose to download anything
[22:55] <Jewbacca> prahal_: can i pm you?
[22:55] <lstarnes> Clunk: could you please give me another example?
[22:55] <refdef> Hey uys im in a bit of trouble. I changed monitors and now when i boot up windows orr ubuntu 8.10 my monitor goes black and says i have to turn down my oses resolution because this new monitor is smaller n crappier. Is there a way to hange he res without booting into ubuntu or a way too boot with the minimum res? Thanks
[22:55] <yoyit2> n8tuser: why are you makeing a argument im not troling and i dont hate ubuntu im just asking how to use firestarter do you know how
[22:55] <prahal_> Jewbacca, sure
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: unclaimed means no driver is loaded for that card
[22:55] <luciel> Thanks giovani I'll see what I can do
[22:55] <Clunk> lstarnes: can listen radio too
[22:56] <Thrae> My router currently has two interfaces setup: eth0 (Internet) and eth1 (192.168.1.1). I want to setup a new static interface to make a different ruleset on a different physical interface, eth2 (192.168.2.1). By editing /etc/network/interfaces I was able to bring it up fine, however it's not resolving DNS queries sent to 192.168.2.1, despite netstat showing it listening on port 53.
[22:56] <giovani> luciel: good luck
[22:56] <prahal_> Pyles17, probably a  card with an id not in the driver
[22:56] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: right, i don't know how to fix it.
[22:56] <n8tuser> yoyit2 -> you were here earlier complaining about ubuntu why not stay vista where you'd be happier
[22:56] <sinmok> Switchmon: in case you didnt get it, yes my subwoofer is built in
[22:56] <hajmola> how do I split a 8gb .mkv into two 4gb files?
[22:56] <foolagain> #python
[22:56] <lstarnes> Clunk: could you please provide a screenshot of some sort?
[22:56] <Pyles17> prahal_: that would make sense, but it works sometimes
[22:56] <yoyit2> n8tuser: can you help me or not
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: try: sudo modprobe iwl3945
[22:56] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: I apologize...thank you for all youre help..I forgot to say thank you. Ive been reding trying to figure out why it wont record
[22:56] <cjae> um sudo apt-get purge googleearth did not work still loads and have a menu entry
[22:57] <sambagirl> is scalix free?
[22:57] <Clunk> lstarnes: i only need the name. i don't remember it
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> !info scalix
[22:57] <lstarnes> Clunk: I'm still not sure exactly what you're talking about
[22:57] <cjae> also tried cjae@cjae-desktop:~$ sudo rm -rf /opt/google-earth && sudo rm /usr/share/mime/application/vnd.google-earth.* /usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.google-earth.* /usr/share/applnk/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/share/mime/packages/googleearth-mimetypes.xml /usr/share/gnome/apps/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/share/applications/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[22:57] <n8tuser> yoyit2 -> i will not, be careful on what you claim around here
[22:57] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, so whats up, did you get it installed
[22:57] <cjae> sorry for long paste
[22:58] <cjae> still loads
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: https://bugs.launchpad.net/intellinuxwireless/+bug/177624
[22:58] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you are using ubuntu as your router?
[22:58] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: Yep its installed now trying to get it to work right
[22:58] <refdef> Any help? How can i boot ubuntu woth a custom screen res?
[22:58] <Clunk> forget it
[22:58] <yoyit2> i need some help with firestarter i am trying to hook my laptop to my 360 so i can play online
[22:59] <Thrae> n8tuser: Well, technically Debian.
[22:59] <lstarnes> Clunk: I don't think it has any specific name
[22:59] <Thrae> n8tuser: But my server runs Ubuntu.
[22:59] <n8tuser> Thrae -> it doesnt really matter, what is the issue?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> refdef: make sure the leftmost resolution in xorg.conf is the res you want to boot in
[22:59] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, cool, I have never used it myself, but installing applications is pretty much the same, if you can't fins it in the repos and you have to compile it yourself for some reason just keep in mind that problems can occur
[22:59] <Thrae> n8tuser: My router currently has two interfaces setup: eth0 (Internet) and eth1 (192.168.1.1). I want to setup a new static interface to make a different ruleset on a different physical interface, eth2 (192.168.2.1). By editing /etc/network/interfaces I was able to bring it up fine, however it's not resolving DNS queries sent to 192.168.2.1, despite netstat showing it listening on port 53.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> refdef: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1541970
[23:00] <refdef> ActionParsnip: Where is that config file? Can i boot with a live cd and edit that file?
[23:00] <Thrae> n8tuser: IE, clients connected to 192.168.2.0/24 subnet cannot resolve DNS.
[23:00] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, what are wanting to record
[23:00] <n8tuser> Thrae -> only two? two subnets only? is it used to get to the internet? you need a 3rd nic
[23:00] <Clunk> lstarnes: i installed once... let me check...
[23:00] <wil_> how do I change partitions?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> refdef: sure you can edit it in livecd, just mount the / partition and edit the file
[23:01] <prince_jammys> refdef: it's in /etc/X11
[23:01] <Thrae> n8tuser: Like I said, I have more then two interfaces. I have four physical interfaces, and I'm not using the fourth right now.
[23:01] <ivancho> n8tuser: try to do: /etc/init.d/bind restart (or your dns server) and try again
[23:01] <n8tuser> Thrae -> better yet, describe your network layout,
[23:01] <Stefano> hi everyone, I would practice with crontab. Cron is running and I've added a line in /etc/crontab: * * * * * myUser /usr/bin/firefox bt it nevers starts. I'm using 8.10 intrepid
[23:01] <hajmola> how do I split a 8gb .mkv into two 4gb files?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> wil_: how do you mean?
[23:01] <ivancho> Thrae: try to do: /etc/init.d/bind restart (or your dns server) and try again
[23:01] <thiebaude> yoyit2:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102645
[23:01] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: game screen window...it wont record to a mpeg just a default window dump of individual pics
[23:01] <Flannel> Stefano: When do you want it to start?
[23:01] <yoyit2> the
[23:02] <racecar56> ok im going to download ubuntu for a virtual machine to download torrents on, but what is the best version to use?
[23:02] <ivancho> hajmola: try mplayer additional program mencoder
[23:02] <yoyit2> thiebaude: thank you :)
[23:02] <n8tuser> Thrae -> can you post your  dhcp server config?
[23:02] <Clunk> lstarnes: his name is screenlets
[23:02] <sinmok> Basically, ive been a vista user and ive managed to get ubuntu working exactly how i like it. The only thing i have left to get working is my subwoofer, at the moment i have no bass at all. I'm using a Qosmio F50 laptop. Can anyone help?
[23:02] <Thrae> n8tuser: eth0 (Internet), eth1 (192.168.1.0/24 w/ DHCP), eth2 (192.168.2.0/24, no DHCP)
[23:02] <thiebaude> yw
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: they will all be equally good, for that use there is nothing ni it
[23:02] <Stefano> Flannel, I wold start firefox every minute, as first example
[23:02] <racecar56> ok
[23:02] <thiebaude> yoyit2
[23:02] <MoTec> Stefano: shouldn't you use crontab -e instead of directly editing /etc/crontab?
[23:02] <tuga3d> hi all
[23:02] <racecar56> maybe i'll do 8.04.2
[23:02] <Thrae> n8tuser: I am connected to a switch connected to eth2, which does not use DHCP.
[23:02] <Flannel> Stefano: Alright, lets do two things.  First, don't use /etc/crontab, use crontab -e to edit your users contab.
[23:02] <adante> jesus
[23:03] <adante> can someone explain how pureftpd in ubuntu is setup
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: there is no BEST app for any purpose really, its all personal taste
[23:03] <racecar56> after all, i'd like to see hardy heron after so long...d
[23:03] <thiebaude> racecar56: that's what i use, free updates for 3 yrs
[23:03] <Flannel> Stefano: *why* do you want to start firefox every minute?
[23:03] <racecar56> k
[23:03] <prince_jammys> firefox is an X client, anyway
[23:03] <racecar56> i use 8.10 usually
[23:03] <n8tuser> Thrae -> your router is acting as dhcp server? it serves on both eth1 and eth2 ?  if you have  a drawing its easier to discuss.
[23:03] <thiebaude> 8.10 is pretty good too
[23:03] <wil_> ActionParsnip, I have a usb drive that was partioned by bsd to ufs... I dont need it anymore and just want to reset it to a 1GB drive... but apart from that, I am getting in to ubuntu and just dont have a clue about partitioning other than when I first installed it
[23:03] <Droopsta915> No help today. Just here to say 8.04 LTS, much better than Ibex 8.10.  (UBUNTU for LIFE!!) good night Linux Heads
[23:03] <Stefano> Flannel, it's just an example. No special reason. It's example 0
[23:03] <MoTec> Stefano: Good infor on crontab and ubuntu:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102626
[23:03] <wil_> ActionParsnip, is there any sort of good partitioning software like in windows disk manager?
[23:03] <racecar56> i don't really neet the newest stuff/features for just a basic torrent downloader cause thats all i want it to doi
[23:04] <racecar56> *do
[23:04] <prahal_> Pyles17, are you sure there is no blacklist for your card and the driver ?
[23:04] <balor> Why does libglib2.0-0 link against libpcre?  Other distros like Debian and Fedora don't link against it.
[23:04] <racecar56> all i'll update is transmission and ill get moblock
[23:04] <_VIM_> i agree Droopsta915...8.04 is where it's at.
[23:04] <Thrae> n8tuser: It only serves on eth1, not eth2.
[23:04] <quentusrex> why is KVM the default supported virtualization software?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> wil_: gparted or fdisk
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> adante: http://linux.justinhartman.com/PureFTPd_Installation_and_Setup
[23:04] <prahal_> Pyles17, otherwise I would bet on a failure to load firmware but that would show up in dmesg output
[23:05] <n8tuser> Thrae -> is that what you wanted? to serve only on eth1?  how is eth2 is supposed to gets its own ip address?
[23:05] <pressman57> Is anyone else experiencing problems with Gnome? The panel flew up to the top and was partially unresponsive (wouldn't display menus- would open apps but text entry wouldn't work) I tried the failsafe xorg.conf file with the same result, and after several reboots has decided to work once more. What the heck?
[23:05] <Thrae> n8tuser: The one computer connected to eth2 is set as static with IP: 192.168.2.2, Gateway: 192.168.2.1, DNS: 192.168.2.1
[23:05] <Stefano> MoTec, thanks for the link
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> balor: debian and fedora are different distros so will act differently
[23:05] <prahal_> pressman57, a11y issue I bet
[23:06] <wil_> ActionParsnip, I cant find gparted, but i am just instaling gnome partition manager (probably the same thing) and qtparted and will take a look... thanks
[23:06] <pressman57> prahal_, ally?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> wil_: yeah you'll find its the same bag
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> wil_: gksudo gparted
[23:06] <Thrae> n8tuser: I use Static IPs instead of a DHCP Server for eth2.
[23:06] <n8tuser> Thrae -> wait a minute one computer connected to eth2 or you said you have a switch?  you see, a picture is worth a thousand word
[23:06] <racecar56> gparted 0.4 pwns 0.3
[23:06] <Thrae> n8tuser: eth2 -> switch -> client
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: i just use fdisk, easier
[23:06] <racecar56> k
[23:06] <Flannel> Stefano: Makesure you have a newline (empty) after your crontab entry
[23:06] <balor> ActionParsnip: I'm wondering, though, what the specific Ubuntu reason is for linking against it.  As I think it's causing an issue on my system.
[23:07] <prahal_> pressman57, accessibility . Have you checked you haave not mistakenly enabled orca or such ?
[23:07] <prince_jammys> Stefano: you'll need to set the DISPLAY environment variable if you want to start applications with cron
[23:07] <Pyles17> prahal_: how would I check those things?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> balor: log a bug
[23:07] <prince_jammys> Stefano: X applications, i mean
[23:07] <n8tuser> Thrae -> nothing wrong with having the client to get a static ip,  have you configured eth2 to be static too?
[23:08] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yes, eth2 192.168.2.1. The client is 192.168.2.2.
[23:08] <racecar56> is there such thing as a ipv4 to ipv6 translator?
[23:08] <n8tuser> Thrae -> and the client is told of a good nameserver to use?  route table is okay?
[23:08] <pressman57> prahal_, I'm sorry to be so dense but what is orca and where do I find it?
[23:08] <racecar56> orca is in your apps
[23:09] <racecar56> universal access i think
[23:09] <balor> racecar56: All IPV4 numbers are IPV6 numbers.  They're just the last few enties
[23:09] <racecar56> k
[23:09] <n8tuser> pressman57 -> i believe those are for visually impaired users
[23:09] <Thrae> n8tuser: Since bind is running on all interfaces, including eth2, I give the client 192.168.2.1 as its DNS. However, that's not working for that subnet. It works with eth1 (which is 192.168.1.1).
[23:10] <sinmok> Hi, can someone help me with sound?
[23:10] <prince_jammys> sinmok: just describe your problem in detail and someone might help
[23:10] <unop> racecar56, yes, but there are a couple of ways of representing IPv4 Addresses in IPv6 - here is one http://www.subnetonline.com/pages/subnet-calculators/ipv4-to-ipv6-converter.php
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> !sound | sinmok
[23:11] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you can test from your client if eth2 is really serving dns  test it on port 53
[23:11] <n8tuser> Thrae -> if not, check your bind   if it does really serve on that eth2
[23:11] <Thrae> n8tuser: netstat -nlp shows it is on the router, and I can do dig @192.168.2.1 www.google.com
[23:11] <Pyles17> prahal_: how would i check that there is no blacklist for the card and the firmware is loading?
[23:11] <pressman57> n8tuser, perhaps, but I really doubt it. One thing might be important....I just had a power-supply fail. I did run a fsck on the disk from another disk and it checked out.
[23:11] <sinmok> Yes, alsa is selected. My speakers work fine. The problem is my subwoofer, nothing appears to be coming out of it. The subwoofer and speakers are built into my laptop. My laptop is the Toshiba Qosmio F50.
[23:12] <badfish69> how can i create an asx playlist?
[23:12] <n8tuser> pressman57 -> what is the issue? i have not followed your convo yet
[23:12] <racecar56> does oss sound work on ubuntu with virtualbox
[23:12] <slipst> I have several pdf files with filenames that are just numbers. I'd like to mass rename so they get their filename from the original filename PLUS the title that shows up when you open it in evince. any ideas?
[23:12] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you do your dig from the router or from the client?
[23:13] <Thrae> n8tuser: Client is Windows, and nslookup doesn't work
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/howto/articles/ad.aspx
[23:13] <prahal_> Pyles17, grep <driver_name> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[23:13] <Forgotten> Hi all!
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: looks like some form of html to me, with <entry> </entry>
[23:13] <_16aR_> Hello
[23:14] <n8tuser> Thrae -> get another client or check the tcpip settings of your windows
[23:14] <prahal_> Pyles17, and grep <driver name> /var/log/kernel.log for firmware issues
[23:14] <_16aR_> I've forgotten it, but do you know the tool to scan the port on a machine ?
[23:14] <lstarnes> _16aR_: nmap
[23:14] <_16aR_> yeahhh
[23:14] <Thrae> n8tuser: I also had the same problem on another Windows computer.
[23:14] <_16aR_> thank you !!
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: http://www.jeroenwijering.com/upload/asx.xml
[23:14] <unop> slipst, does every file have a different title?
[23:14] <Stefano> thank u so much. Why I should use crontab -e instead of vim directly?
[23:14] <adante> ActionParsnip: thanks but the way it is configured in ubuntu seems to be some rather wierd wrapper script which parses a directory containing the options and is basically completely abstracted from all of that
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875760
[23:14] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you can ping okay from those clients to 192.168.2.1  ?
[23:14] <racecar56> goodbye and hoping everyone who gots problems will get them solved, i gotta go
[23:15] <racecar56> bye
[23:15] <welly> hey all, just finished installing ubuntu 8.10 server on my vps. I remember seeing a post-installation document somewhere. how to lock down the server a little. i don't supposed anyone knows of one?
[23:15] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yes, as well as to any IP on the internet
[23:15] <slipst> unop, yes. I also have a list of the names but I don't know if it's in the same order.
[23:15] <unop> Stefano, crontab -e just opens up the file in your editor -- and that could be vim
[23:15] <fogobogo> welly: http://suigintou.desudesudesu.org/4scrape/img/190519.jpg
[23:15] <n8tuser> Thrae id check you windows tcpip properties
[23:15] <quentusrex> I have a radeon 7000 how do I enable dual screen monitors? so that they don't mirror each other?
[23:15] <prahal_> pressman57, orca is for visually impaired people . You could do ps ax |grep orca to see if it is enabled
[23:16] <welly> cheers fogobogo! :-/
[23:16] <MoTec> Stefano: EDITOR=nano && crontab -e
[23:16] <Stefano> unop, I've tried with the line: * * * * * stefano /usr/bin/firefox but it doesn't start :-(
[23:16] <MoTec> or whatever editor you want to use.
[23:16] <unop> slipst, well, from what you're saying now - you just want to add the title to the filename
[23:16] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you're not running any kind of firewalling in your router are you?
[23:16] <slipst> unop, I was going to use pyrenamer but when I loaded filenames from text file it removes  the original filename completely. so the easiest solution I can come up with is to manually check so that every original filename (numbers) matches the title of the document. kind of a PITA with several thousand documents.
[23:16] <slipst> unop, yeah
[23:16] <Thrae> n8tuser: It's also happening on my DD-WRT router too. Like I said, the TCP/IP settings are IP: 192.168.2.2, Mask: 255.255.255.0, Gateway: 192.168.2.1, DNS: 192.168.2.1
[23:17] <unop> Stefano, right, that's because like prince_jammys said sometime ago -- you need to set the DISPLAY variable for GUI apps to work from cron
[23:17] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yes I am, but it's not rejecting the packets
[23:17] <n8tuser> Thrae -> where is this DD-WRT coming into the picture?  do you have another linux box you can use as a client?
[23:17] <unop> slipst, have a look at extract .. it can look for metadata in files and may pull up something if your files have the titles in the tags
[23:17] <fogobogo> welly: my pleasure.
[23:18] <slipst> unop, thanks for the tip
[23:18] <n8tuser> Thrae -> i suspect its your firewalling,  combed through it and/or use logs of packets getting rejected on eth2
[23:18] <welly> fogobogo: I'm not sure what your point is though
[23:18] <unop> !info extract
[23:18] <racecar56> is it possible to clear icon browser dropdowns, like in alacarte to choose an icon for the menu entry
[23:18] <prahal_> pressman57, this was just an issue that would have been able to explain most of what you describe (if buggy on your version of the distrib)
[23:18] <gorgapor> I am having a very serious and wierd problem: the file /etc/resolv.conf cannot be accessed or removed, giving the error message "Stale NFS file handle". Because of this, I have no DNS capability. How do I fix this? Why would /etc/resolv.conf even be on a networked file system?
[23:18] <MeVsTheVoices> Anyone know what the local format of Quicktime is, need to transcode for
[23:19] <fogobogo> gorgapor: http://suigintou.desudesudesu.org/4scrape/img/190519.jpg
[23:19] <n8tuser> gorgapor -> without resolv.conf you can not resolve names to ip address
[23:19] <gorgapor> n8tuser, yes, i am aware that i can't resolve names, and it's very annoying :)
[23:20] <racecar56> is it possible to clear icon browser dropdowns, like in alacarte to choose an icon for the menu entry
[23:20] <gorgapor> fogobogo, you are not helping
[23:20] <n8tuser> gorgapor -> cant you relate?  network file system  -- to resolve those network addresses you require resolv.conf
[23:20] <BBishop> hey ubuntu people :)
[23:21] <BBishop> so far .. so nice .. only one problem in firefox .. anyone here uses html validator addon for firefox ? :|
[23:21] <Brucee> is there any remote program for ubuntu such as tight vnc, vnc, radmin, or teamviewer?
[23:21] <adante> anybody use pureftpd in ubuntu?
[23:21] <n8tuser> gordonjcp -> have an entry in your /etc/hosts file is you wish, am assuming not many nfs servers you need to resolved
[23:21] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yeah, no packets getting rejected
[23:21] <prahal_> gorgapor, sudo lsof -i may help find out if someone has mounted your / as nfs share
[23:21] <MoTec> Brucee: Yep, vnc works
[23:21] <pressman57> n8tuser, Really strange behavior in gnome. The panel has twice jumped to the top of the screen and become unresponsive. After a reboot it remained unresponsive. I've used the failsafe xorg.conf to no avail and then on a subsequent
[23:21] <adante> or can recommend an ftp with non retarded setup
[23:21] <MoTec> Brucee: I use x11vnc - probably outdated by now, heh
[23:21] <prince_jammys> BBishop: try firebug
[23:22] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yeah, no packets getting rejected, which is the weird part.
[23:22] <Brucee> MoTec i want it to run on cross platforms
[23:22] <timmyzecat> hi
[23:22] <prahal_> gorgapor, or exportfs to see if your system does not export it by mistake
[23:22] <piegod> Hi, has anyone noticed that the ngircd package in Ubuntu's repository is out of date?
[23:22] <Brucee> xp, with ubuntu
[23:22] <MoTec> you can use any vnc viewer to connect to x11vnc
[23:22] <tomvolek_> Hi, I am running 8.1,  i have updated my system from now and then and now i see three kernel versions on the grub bootup screen..  How can I remove the ones i dont want from both the fiule system ?  I know how to remove grub entries .
[23:22] <n8tuser> Thrae -> thats odd, is it getting in through your firewall, all the nslookup request from your client?
[23:22] <BBishop> prince_jammys, doesn't firebug bug google mail ?
[23:22] <gorgapor> prahal_, one second, i'll check that out
[23:22] <racecar56> is it possible to clear icon browser dropdowns, like in alacarte to choose an icon for the menu entry >by the way pm me if you know, i can't see irc messages as good if they are grouped with others so PM ME if you know how <
[23:22] <n8tuser> pressman57 -> i got sidetracked, what was the issue we're trying to resolved?
[23:22] <prince_jammys> BBishop: beats me
[23:23] <prahal_> tomvolek_, remove the kernels via synaptic/aptitude
[23:23] <prahal_> grub will find them and add them back in the list
[23:23] <prahal_> otherwise
[23:23] <tomvolek_> prahal, i am on synaptic now, what would i look for ?
[23:23] <racecar56> by the way i do ubuntu 8.10 and only ubuntu 8.10... :>
[23:23] <Brucee> ok, thanks MoTec
[23:23] <prince_jammys> BBishop: it's installable through apt
[23:23] <prahal_> tomvolek_, linux-image-*
[23:23] <racecar56> it's good to have a OS that's pwnage
[23:23] <racecar56> :>
[23:23] <BBishop> prince_jammys, well .. does it have the standard validation abilities ?
[23:23] <pressman57> buggy behavior on gnome system-wide (I tried logging in as another user).
[23:23] <BBishop> of the pages I visit ..
[23:24] <racecar56> ubuntu is my favorite OS
[23:24] <G-Bleezy> tomvolek_: /boot/grub/menu.lst and delete the vmlinuz file from wherever you've got the binaries stashed...usually /boot
[23:24] <prince_jammys> BBishop: yes. check it out. you can turn it on and off, too. sudo apt-get install firebug
[23:24] <thiebaude> ubuntu is my only OS
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: i love gentoo
[23:24] <tomvolek_> prahal_  just unmark the one i dont want ?   is that safe to do ?
[23:24] <racecar56> cool
[23:24] <gorgapor> prahal_, i don't even have exportfs installed, there is no nfs set up on my system
[23:24] <Ax-Ax> snopp
[23:24] <BBishop> I still don't get why ubuntu doesn't use the normal firefox trunk ...
[23:24] <prahal_> tomvolek_, yes . It will bark at you if you try to remove them all
[23:25] <racecar56> i tried gentoo once but it took too long to install so i gave up
[23:25] <piegod> will the ngircd package in the repos ever be updated? I think the repo has 0.10 something and 0.13 is out, and supports SSL/stuff
[23:25] <slide> Is there an ¨official¨ way to update Vuze to the V4?
[23:25] <racecar56> i like ubuntu the best and i like freebsd the second best because of its ports
[23:25] <lstarnes> piegod: you will most likely have to download the sources and compile it yoruself
[23:25] <lstarnes> *yourself
[23:25] <racecar56> although ubuntu is easier
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: you can achieve similar to emerge with apt-build but apt doesnt keep up with them, sucks
[23:25] <racecar56> k
[23:25] <piegod> lstarnes: I know,  I had to, I just wanted to know if they will ever update the repository
[23:25] <BBishop> prince_jammys, damn this is too complex .. I want html validator .. it was easy ..
[23:26] <Flannel> !info ngircd jaunty | piegod
[23:26] <piegod> hmm, 0.12 :/
[23:26] <piegod> wait!
[23:26] <piegod> jaunty
[23:26] <prince_jammys> BBishop: that integrates with firefox, or is stand-alone?
[23:26] <prahal_> gorgapor, ok so the only reason I see is not that your / is exported but that at least /etc was from another nfs export (from another box ... I ll look after how to get rid of stale files (don't know yet
[23:26] <racecar56> i like ubuntu better because freebsd isn't so 'working out the box' but its still fun to fool with, for me at least
[23:26] <Pyles17> prahal_: neither one of those gave any output, but i looked through /var/log/kern.log and found this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115802/
[23:26] <piegod> I think my server is still 8.04 or maybe 8.10
[23:26] <Flannel> piegod: Jaunty is already frozen, but if you file a sync request, you can get a newer versio in 9.10
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> piegod: lsb_release -a | grep Code
[23:27] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Or lsb_release -c ;)
[23:27] <racecar56> by the way i ordered an external CD-RW drive for my server so i can wipe the win and install the lin (kill windows, install Linux)
[23:27] <thiebaude> :)
[23:27] <BBishop> prince_jammys, integrates ... but it uses some tidy libs and stuff
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: nice, thanks :D
[23:27] <racecar56> i don't even know how to use windows server
[23:27] <prince_jammys> BBishop: firebug is probably the most popular one for firefox. a command-line alternative is 'tidy'
[23:27] <BBishop> buzzing through the forums say it's ubuntu's fault for bubling up firefox with other stuff
[23:27] <racecar56> ive been using firefox scince 2005
[23:28] <piegod> Flannel: ah, 0.12 should be fine (methinks) - so that's all good to know (0.10 doesn't do SSL support :|) - will the package be configured with ssl support?
[23:28] <BBishop> well I don't want the command-line one .. nor do I want firebug .. too complex ..
[23:28] <racecar56> and im anti-ie
[23:28] <slide> Whenever I type a ¨ it makes me hit the key twice. If i hit ¨ and then another character it provides an different char, how cna I turn this off (IE ä ë ḧ ï ö ...)
[23:28] <thiebaude> i don't agree BBishop
[23:28] <racecar56> woot for OSS
[23:28] <BBishop> prince_jammys, you try using html validator and you'll see what I'm talking about.
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: i used firebird back in the day
[23:28] <racecar56> (open source software, not the sound system)
[23:28] <Flannel> piegod: I don't know.  You'll want to talk to the Universe people, in #ubuntu-motu
[23:28] <racecar56> cool
[23:28] <piegod> Flannel: I think by default ssl is off, has to be configured compile-time
[23:28] <piegod> ok
[23:28] <racecar56> my first comp was from 2003
[23:28] <racecar56> or 2002
[23:28] <Flannel> slide: You need to change your keyboard layout to something without deadkeys
[23:29] <racecar56> idk it might even be 2004
[23:29] <Renfield> Hello again.
[23:29] <MiniGui> oh
[23:29] <racecar56> hi
[23:29] <MiniGui> hello
[23:29] <Renfield> Can someone look at this syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/115803/  From my continued attempts at installing Ubuntu and help me get it working?
[23:30] <Pyles17> prahal_: neither one of those gave any output, but i looked through /var/log/kern.log and found this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115802/
[23:30] <piegod> netsurf3: NetSurf, as in the browser?
[23:30] <racecar56> if i let my virtual machine use an iso while burning the same iso to a cd will it cause problems with either?
[23:30] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: can you recommend a good wallpaper?
[23:30] <slide> Flannel, will i need to restart anything?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: read lines 382
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: www.vladstudio.com
[23:31] <thiebaude> kewl
[23:31] <thiebaude> thanks
[23:31] <Flannel> slide: Shouldn't, no.
[23:31] <prahal_> Pyles17, initiliazing regulatory failed is the issue
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: lsb_release -c
[23:31] <racecar56> oh gosh im not used to how nice the buttons looked in 8.04 cause im used to the ugly ones in 8.10, :P
[23:31] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Ok, what do I do about that? I don't remember requesting it to configure despite dependency problems.
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: sec - http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/andrew_woodhead666/?action=view&current=snapshot1.png
[23:31] <slide> Flannel, ok so my setting was for US International (with deadkeys) so i change it to just plain USA and set it as default but it still didnt fix it
[23:32] <prahal_> Pyles17, you may need a binary client on the server . I read in a french linux magazine about this a month ago . Lemme find it
[23:32] <bkaps> hey can someone help me with alsa sound wizard
[23:32] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: I also was never told anything about dependency problems.
[23:32] <Pyles17> prahal_: thanks
[23:32] <slide> Flannel, n/m i just removed US International (with deadkeys) and now it works
[23:32] <slide> thanks!
[23:32] <racecar56> it reminds me of windows vista's buttons in a orange form... but not that i acually used vista
[23:32] <racecar56> ive only seen vista
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: no idea dude, did you md5 your iso you downloaded as well as verify the cd once its burned
[23:32] <thiebaude> wow
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: psychadelia deluxe
[23:32] <racecar56> anyway speaking of cd/iso stuff...
[23:33] <racecar56> if i let my virtual machine use an iso while burning the same iso to a cd will it cause problems with either?
[23:33] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: AH! There is no md5sum for the mini.iso
[23:33] <marlon> marcus
[23:33] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: i got that valentine's one
[23:33] <thiebaude> i wish i had compiz
[23:33] <marlon> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: whats the filename you downloaded, i bet i can find one
[23:33] <bkaps> can anybody help me with alsa
[23:33] <Renfield> mini.iso
[23:33] <Pyles17> !alsa
[23:33] <marlon> any one know any website
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: it wows windows users, i dont find it overly useful
[23:33] <keres> i seem to have trouble installing drivers for ati 9000 pci card. Envy didn't work, and it wont show up in system->administration->hardware drivers. any thoughts?
[23:33] <prahal_> Pyles17, gasp the new open source solution is crda but the intel one I don't have the name in the article . Let s find out :)
[23:33] <racecar56> and why does intrepid's buttons look bad yet hardy's look nice
[23:33] <thiebaude> haha
[23:33] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: To help you, it is Intrepid, AMD64.
[23:33] <racecar56> not that i dont like 8.10
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: ok let me see
[23:34] <racecar56> i do like 8.10
[23:34] <thiebaude> wow is a balmer word,haha
[23:34] <G-Bleezy> tomvolek_: hey i found a better way to remove the kernel entries you don't want....don't just erase the files, you just install the packages:  apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.3.2.2.-whateverkernel
[23:34] <Pyles17> prahal_: ok. awesome
[23:34] <G-Bleezy> s/install/uninstall
[23:34] <prahal_> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/7.0/ipw3945d.html
[23:35] <racecar56> and why does intrepid's buttons look bad yet hardy's look nice, ill put up an image between the 2 in a bit
[23:35] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Also, look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115805/  For some reason, the other paste didn't have all of the lines of syslog.
[23:35] <netsurf3> piegod, no netsurf as in a netsurfer
[23:35] <netsurf3> i havent really played with the browser ;)
[23:36] <piegod> netsurf3: okay :)
[23:36] <stalkingwolf> Hello all.  My first time here so bare with me.
[23:36] <G-Bleezy> stalkingwolf: try google first :)
[23:36] <prahal_> Pyles17, custom kernel or ubuntu one ?
[23:36] <Pyles17> ubuntu
[23:37] <G-Blunted> hey how i install/remove kernel packages?
[23:37] <keres> i am having trouble installing the pci ati 9000 driver. envyNG does not work, it will not run. any thoughts?
[23:37] <keres> !ati
[23:37] <thiebaude> G-Blunted: through syaptic
[23:37] <niko> Guys, I have a computer without a dvd drive. is iot possible to use the dvd drive from another computer in my netwoork as if it were a native drive in mine?
[23:37] <G-Blunted> ok
[23:38] <thiebaude> G-Blunted: be careful when doing that
[23:38] <stalkingwolf> does anyone know of an application for Ubuntu that will read and edit Corel Print Office files?
[23:38] <G-Blunted> niko: yes
[23:38] <Renfield> niko: I think so.
[23:38] <niko> using ubuntu of course
[23:38] <gorgapor> what's a simple command to list unmounted disk partitions?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: i acn find one for 32bit
[23:38] <Pyles17> prahal: so i should use ipw3945 instead of iwl3945, even though it's the older one?
[23:38] <G-Blunted> niko just mount the drive i think
[23:38] <niko> I can see the device on the other pc, but it reads the disc as a folder
[23:38] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Yes, I saw that one also.
[23:38] <meoblast001> can anyone help me get a bluetooth headset to work?
[23:39] <meoblast001> i've been struggling all day
[23:39] <niko> I need to read it as a DVD
[23:39] <Alloosh> hi, is there any way to open NoteOne file, the extension is .one
[23:39] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: I don't really believe that this is caused by a bad image.
[23:39] <fgfgfgdss> where i can find dvd in english????What's the cannel or server
[23:39] <niko> how
[23:39] <DIFH-iceroot> !download | fgfgfgdss
[23:39] <fgfgfgdss> !download
[23:39] <niko> how do I mount?
[23:40] <Pyles17> prahal_: so i should use ipw3945 instead of iwl3945, even though it's the older one?
[23:40] <fgfgfgdss> !download
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: well if a package isnt being setup right it may be a bad package somewhere
[23:40] <fgfgfgdss> where i can find dvd in english????What's the cannel or server
[23:40] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Each time I do this, a different package has a problem.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: could try some boot options maybe
[23:40] <DIFH-iceroot> fgfgfgdss: please read the links ubottu was posting you
[23:40] <lstarnes> fgfgfgdss: dvds of what?
[23:40] <bazhang> fgfgfgdss, ubuntu dvd?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Renfield
[23:40] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Ok, I am willing to try anything.
[23:41] <prahal_> Pyles17, ouch you are right I should look after the daemon for the new one (anyway the page for the old one is dead on sourceforge it was a dead end)
[23:41] <fgfgfgdss> !help
[23:41] <bazhang> fgfgfgdss, which dvd
[23:41] <Renfield> !bootoptions
[23:41] <Pyles17> prahal_: you just have to change the url, it said 3955 instead of 3945
[23:42] <Javier17> hello, how are you' ive got a question.. i'm using hardy... and i don't know if im running the 64 or the 32bit version... how can i know?
[23:42] <niko> How do I mount a an optiocal drive from a networked computer in my Ubuntu one? sorry for noob question
[23:42] <lstarnes> Javier17: uname -m
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> niko: share the drive with samba then smbmount it
[23:42] <fgfgfgdss> i want divx
[23:42] <fgfgfgdss> divx
[23:42] <racecar56> http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/63/hardyintrepidbuttonscomgr0.png top is hardy and bottom is ibex
[23:43] <racecar56> why is ibex's look so ugly
[23:43] <bazhang> fgfgfgdss, not here, likely not on freenode
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | fgfgfgdss
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: gnome or kde?
[23:43] <bazhang> racecar56, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:43] <fgfgfgdss> !codecs
[23:43] <racecar56> gnome
[23:43] <thiebaude> racecar56: change the look of it
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: head into offtopic dude
[23:43] <racecar56> ok
[23:43] <Javier17> ﻿lstarnes: X86_64
[23:44] <lstarnes> Javier17: that's 64 bit
[23:44] <Javier17> ﻿lstarnes: thank you
[23:44] <fgfgfgdss> what is a good server where i can find divx in english???
[23:44] <niko> ActionParsnip: how do I do that, sorry. sorta new here
[23:44] <isase> fgfgfgdss: divx.com?
[23:45] <bazhang> fgfgfgdss, please dont ask here; this is ubuntu support ONLY
[23:45] <fgfgfgdss> the server no the site
[23:45] <lstarnes> fgfgfgdss: this channel will not help you do illegal things
[23:45] <nightrid3r> fgfgfgdss: 127.0.0.1 anonymous
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> !samba | niko
[23:45] <Luuuks> divx != illegal :P
[23:45] <lstarnes> Luuuks: a lot of content made with divx is
[23:46] <niko> booth are linux machines
[23:46] <isase> @lstarnes: umm, no?
[23:46] <niko> and I can see the drive allready
[23:46] <niko> I just dont know how to mount it
[23:46] <isase> divx is just a video codec, same as wmv, xvid, avi, etc
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> lstarnes: lots of mpegs are of illegal movie pirates, yet vlc is available?
[23:46] <BBishop> I still don't get why the damn html validator won't work on ubuntu's firefox .. :|
[23:46] <thiebaude> they also say that playing dvd's are illegal too
[23:46] <DIFH-iceroot> lstarnes: a lot of content shared by bittorrent too
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> niko: its one solution, linux can read samba shared resources too
[23:47] <niko> ok, bbut how do I mount it?
[23:47] <lstarnes> ActionParsnip: I'm not saying divx is illegal, I'm just saying that it is often used for pirated dvds
[23:47] <isase> lstarnes: what you're REAL:Y saying is that you're talknig out your ass
[23:47] <isase> :P
[23:48] <mrpockets> hey guys
[23:48] <solid_liquid> #/j #kubuntu
[23:48] <LH{> hey
[23:48] <Luuux> guyyys i need help installing libssh pls
[23:48] <LH{> can someone help me with compiz fusion, I cant seem to get themes
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> lstarnes: (23:45:27) lstarnes: fgfgfgdss: this channel will not help you do illegal things
[23:48] <mrpockets> so I'm trying to add a networked printer, and its going well exceopt, it asks for a password for "localhost" at the end of the setup
[23:48] <LH{> im stuck with the stock coffee ubuntu
[23:48] <blizzle> lstarnes, Better left unsaid. Some people use knives for cooking, some for murder. :)
[23:48] <mrpockets> i don't have any host names named localhost
[23:48] <isase> mrpockets: localhost = the machine you're on
[23:49] <piegod> 127.0.0.1
[23:49] <mrpockets> isase, that password doesn't work
[23:49] <Luuux> guyyys i need help installing libssh pls, when i am writing make it gives errors pls help
[23:49] <lstarnes> Luuuks: what errors?
[23:49] <ScottG> Shrinking a partition doesnt delete any data from it right?
[23:49] <isase> luuux: what errors?
[23:49] <isase> ScottG: no
[23:49] <nightrid3r> !info libssh
[23:49] <mib_w2re6368> hey guys.  Which filesystem is best for a low-cpu system?
[23:49] <piegod> How do I file a sync request?
[23:49] <prahal_> Pyles17, I found out the iwl driver is new in that the regulatory is no more in a daemon but in the firmware http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/78476-iwl3945-driver-channel-capability.html  but .... there is a thing about config80211
[23:49] <DIFH-iceroot> ScottG: but a backup is a good idea
[23:49] <Luuux> isase, PM lstarnes, PM
[23:49] <mib_w2re6368> and low memory as well...
[23:49] <isase> ScottG: you do run the risk of data loss, but it's a pretty small chance. the operation itself doesn't delete any data
[23:49] <lstarnes> Luuuks: please keep it in the channel if possible
[23:50] <nightrid3r> Luuux: you probably need to install ssh-dev package
[23:50] <prahal_> Pyles17, which region are you in ? US/JP or else ?
[23:50] <Pyles17> prahal_: us
[23:50] <Dartel> Evening All
[23:50] <ScottG> isase: I dont really have anywhere do back the data up to :/
[23:50] <isase> ScottG: then you run the risk of losing it - small risk, but it's there
[23:51] <isase> ScottG: the partition resize operation itself doesn'tr erase data, though
[23:52] <DIFH-iceroot> Luuux: the package is called libssh-2
[23:52] <Luuux> nightrid3r, did it will work for THC-Hydra? i need libssh for that..
[23:52] <DIFH-iceroot> Luuux: sudo apt-get install libssh-2
[23:52] <Dartel> Is this the best place for new converts from Windoze to Linux (Ubuntu 8.10)?
[23:52] <slide> Is there an ¨official¨ way to update Vuze to the v4?
[23:53] <DIFH-iceroot> Luuux: and look apt-cache search libssh  which one you needed/want
[23:53] <blizzle> Dartel, Welcome. Yes.
[23:53] <DIFH-iceroot> Dartel: yes
[23:53] <racecar56> gtg
[23:53] <mib_w2re6368> What filesystem is best for older systems?  I want to make a home server with a box that's running an 800mhz AMD Athlon with 128 mb ram
[23:53] <G-Blunted> Dartel, i just switched yesterday and im here :)
[23:53] <nightrid3r> Luuux: make is for compiling if it error's like that install the dev package, in this case for ssh
[23:53] <blizzle> mib_w2re6368, ext3 is fine.
[23:53] <mib_w2re6368> blizzle:  Is there something that'll tax the hardware less than ext3?
[23:54] <blizzle> mib_w2re6368, ext3 won't tax the hardware hard. It's fine.
[23:54] <nightrid3r> Luuux: installing a *-dev package will also install the lib if not already there
[23:54] <DIFH-iceroot> mib_w2re6368: ext3 without journal or ext2
[23:54] <S4nD3r> Hi there. My laptop is crashing, Id like to discover the reason. What to do? Usually crashes when nobody uses...
[23:54] <DIFH-iceroot> S4nD3r: looking at the logs first is a good idea
[23:54] <mib_w2re6368> okay thanks guys.  does xfs still have reliability issues?
[23:54] <G-Blunted> S4nD3r, : probably over heats
[23:55] <blizzle> mib_w2re6368, And journalling is something you're better with that without. Not worth sacrificing for nominal performance gains.
[23:55] <nightrid3r> S4nD3r: prob has to do with hybernation which is still problematic under linux
[23:55] <blizzle> *than
[23:55] <Dartel> This system is 256 meg ram and 500Mhz Intel cpu with a whopping 6 gig hard drive
[23:55] <S4nD3r> ummm...
[23:55] <S4nD3r> which log file register crashes?
[23:55] <nightrid3r> Dartel: wow big iron :)
[23:55] <Dartel> And Xchat is my first succesful software install
[23:56] <MoTec> heh, this is a virtual machine, running on a host with an intel atom processor and 1gb of RAM :)
[23:56] <Dartel> Ok you win Motec
[23:56] <isase> MoTec: masochism much?
[23:56] <isase> :P
[23:56] <Synx_hm> How can i install boot code to the MBR of a usb drive, the 'Create a USB startup disk' tool in 8.10 is copying the files but not replacing the windows boot code in the MBR on the drive
[23:56] <crdlb> mib_w2re6368: don't even consider xfs without a really good UPS and several backups
[23:56] <blizzle> Dartel, Xubuntu is your best bet.
[23:56] <MoTec> hehe, all i use is CLI stuff, so it's okay :)
[23:57] <fabio> i want to have a osx menu in gnome
[23:57] <Dartel> Better than Gnome? or easier?
[23:57] <fabio> gnome rocks
[23:57] <MoTec> xubuntu works better with lower powered systems
[23:57] <blizzle> Dartel, On your system, much better performance, as well as being easier to tweak.
[23:57] <G-Blunted> i just installed Xubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 8500 and love it...
[23:58] <Dartel> I was already severyly impressed today when I hovered the mouse over a music file and it started playing
[23:58] <nightrid3r> xubuntu runs fine on a PII with 128MB ram and 3.2GB HD
[23:58] <blizzle> Dartel, To the unitiated, there's little difference between Gnome and a default Xfce setup.
[23:58] <MoTec> i put xubuntu on my dell mini-9 it works great..   Had to go back to windows for work, tho.. And I can't get the laptop to boot off of it's sd card :(
[23:58] <S4nD3r> probably screensaver
[23:59] <fabio> my gnome start with 60 megs
[23:59] <S4nD3r> Just crashes when computer becomes idle
[23:59] <MrBC> Can Gnome's desktop icon text be reduced so everything lines up?
[23:59] <Dartel> But I downloaded Google earth it is a .bin file no clue how to install, and wonder can it be installed and ran from thum drive?
[23:59] <blizzle> Dartel, chmod +x and then run it.
[23:59] <fabio> ./program.bin