[00:00] <EtFb> zaapiel: It doesn't seem to integrate with KDE4 though, for some reason.  I advise praying to Google for guidance.
[00:02]  * EtFb should have read three lines up before giving zaapiel that latter piece of advice
[00:03] <EtFb> kaddi: That much, at least, works for me, so whatever's wrong is something different between your machine and mine.  Best guess is your video driver: can you change back to vesa and see if the crashes go away?
[00:04] <kaddi> vesa?
[00:05] <EtFb> kaddi: Dang - I was hoping you knew how to do that so you could tell me, since I need to do the same to debug a suspend/resume bug.  Let me see what I can find out.
[00:05] <kaddi> I don't even know what vesa is supposed to be ;)
[00:08] <gorgonizer> kaddi: in /etc/11/xorg.conf enter the line    Driver "vesa"    in the Section "Device" part of the file..
[00:09] <gorgonizer> under the line   Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[00:09] <kaddi> gorgonizer: and what does this do? :)
[00:09] <gorgonizer> that will set the Xserver to use the vesa driver...
[00:09] <kaddi> just being curious, i like to understand what i do... otherwise i ain't learning noithing :)
[00:09] <kaddi> which is more stable than the normal one?
[00:10] <gorgonizer> (after restarting the X server)  yes, I like to learn what I am doing as well, so it is easier in the future, if similar problems are found :)
[00:10] <gorgonizer> kaddi: it depends on what graphics card you have in your PC..
[00:10] <EtFb> kaddi: It
[00:11] <EtFb> kaddi: It'll probably be stable; it'll definitely be slower and less feature-full than the one you're using.  But it might not crash...
[00:11] <kaddi> i have an integrated intel-card
[00:11] <kaddi> i'll give it a try :)
[00:12] <zaapiel> EtFb: working well here with kde 4.2
[00:12] <kaddi> brb, restarting x-server :)
[00:12] <EtFb> zaapiel: The screen savers, you mean?
[00:13] <zaapiel> yeah
[00:15] <EtFb> zaapiel: Excellent.  I tried kscreensavers too, and it's got a lot of goodies.  Three cheers for eye candy!  Now if only I could make the basics work - like suspend/resume...
[00:16] <zaapiel> lol yeah i havent tried that yet
[00:22] <kaddi> so vesa definitely isn't for everybody XD
[00:22] <kaddi> couldn't even get a loginscreen after i made the change :p
[00:22] <kaddi> back to the old settings now :9
[00:28] <mikevieira> hi
[00:28] <bittin> hi
[00:28] <mikevieira> I am using kubuntu
[00:28] <mikevieira> I am having problems with adept
[00:28] <mikevieira> I tried installing firefox
[00:28] <mikevieira> but its not installing
[00:29] <mikevieira> there are several errors
[00:29] <Hentai> adept is a apt-get front end gui?
[00:29] <Hentai> what errors mikevieira ?
[00:29] <Hentai> can you pastebin the error
[00:29] <Hentai> errors outputed
[00:29] <mikevieira> I tried to send the errors through the link
[00:30] <mikevieira> but its not working neither
[00:30] <mikevieira> I tried the wizard and it too has problems
[00:30] <mikevieira> let me get the errors numbers if i CAN
[00:30] <Hentai> mikevieira, what about apt-get install firefox
[00:31] <mikevieira> how do I use apt-get as I just installed kubuntu today
[00:32] <Hentai> mikevieira, open terminal
[00:32] <mikevieira> I tried searching for it and it sent me to the web page
[00:32] <Hentai> then in order to install something usually you need to use the sudo command
[00:32] <Hentai> to give you a higher access level
[00:33] <Hentai> that way you can install the app with apt-get
[00:33] <Hentai> so
[00:33] <Hentai> first run
[00:33] <Hentai> apt-cache search firefox
[00:33] <Hentai> just that
[00:33] <Hentai> in termainl
[00:33] <cbwcjw> !enter | Hentai
[00:33] <EtFb> kaddi: If you're using KDE4, the method is probably different.  xorg.conf doesn't work the way it used to.  I'm tracking down the new method now...
[00:34] <gorgonizer> EtFb: that is where I had to set nvidia as the driver, but if there is a new way, please let me know :)
[00:35] <mikevieira> ok
[00:35] <Hentai> mikevieira, you want to find out what firefox packages are around to install, the name of it
[00:35] <gorgonizer> (I am on KDE 4.2)
[00:35] <zaapiel> good man
[00:36] <mikevieira> I'll be back on a little later
[00:36] <mikevieira> I have to go
[00:36] <mikevieira> I see I am going to be here for a while
[00:36] <mikevieira> see ya later
[00:37] <wweng> question, how do I mark certain message as SPAM?
[00:37] <wweng> in kmail
[00:38] <cbwcjw> gorgonizer: hey!
[00:38] <gorgonizer> wweng: have you ran the Anti-spam Wizard under the tools menu?  as after that, you should have an option under right click to mark a message as SPAM or HAM..
[00:39] <hubar_> hmm let me try that!
[00:39] <gorgonizer> cbwcjw: hello!!  How are you?  I have been celebrating a successful weekend for English sporting prowess
[00:40] <cbwcjw> gorgonizer: haha, Yea, im just enjoying KDE 4.2. Ive definitley had less cras
[00:40] <cbwcjw> crashes*
[00:41] <gorgonizer> cbwcjw: I decided (for some reason I am not privy to) to use Project-neon packages for plasmoids and Amarok2... had some minor niggles (with amarok), but it is all good :)
[00:42] <cbwcjw> gorgonizer: AWesome
[00:42] <hubar_> gorgonizer: thanks a lot, it works perfectly. :)
[00:43] <gorgonizer> cbwcjw: yeah, it is looking good for the next releases of KDE :)  from the improvement from 4.1 -> 4.2, 4.3 should be excellent..
[00:43] <gorgonizer> hubar_: no problem :)
[00:43] <hubar_> gorgonizer: If you don't mind, can you tell me how do I scroll page up / down in kmail 4.2?
[00:43] <cbwcjw> gorgonizer: Thats what I figure
[00:43] <hubar_> I find key p/n for scroll message up/down.
[00:44] <gorgonizer> hubar_: I tend to use the scroll wheel on my mouse... so other than that, I wouldn't know :(
[00:44] <hubar_> hehe I am on a laptop.
[00:45] <hubar_> so I prefer not to use mouse :)
[00:45] <gorgonizer> cbwcjw: though looking at the feature release for 4.2, they didn't finish everything they wanted...
[00:45] <gorgonizer> hubar_: that is understandable :)
[00:50] <Nomexous> Has anyone manually generated thumbnails for videos?
[00:50] <syockit> hubar_: scroll is either Up/Dn or PgUp/PgDn
[00:51] <cbwcjw> gorgonizer: Whats the command to enable window compositing
[00:51] <hubar_> syockit: It only works in message, not in the message list.
[00:51] <cbwcjw> gorgononizer: /shorcut
[00:51] <hubar_> I want it to scroll up/dn in the list.
[00:52] <gorgonizer> cbwcjw: I think it is Ctrl + Shift + f11...
[00:52] <cbwcjw> gorgonizer: nope :/
[00:52] <syockit> hubar_: right, the controls are so uneasy
[00:53] <gorgonizer> cbwcjw: oh, in that case, do you know if knotify has a log?  If it does, I should be able to find it...
[00:54] <hubar_> wow syockit, you are genius. :) ctrl+pgup/dn works. :)
[00:55] <syockit> hubar_: Hey wait, it aint supposed to work that way! Shortcut says Scroll (more)!
[00:55] <syockit> hubar_: anyways good discovery by both of us :)
[00:56] <hubar_> syockit: I have no idea how that works. alt+pgup/dn seems to work too, although it shows the message that is your current.
[00:57] <hubar_> Ctrl+pgup/dn dehighlights the current message.
[00:57] <EtFb> Godsdammit!  Here I am, trying to debug a suspend/resume problem, and what happens?  Suspend/resume works perfectly!  How am I supposed to fix the problem if it randomly goes away whenever I look for the cause?  Gaah!
[00:58] <syockit> hubar_: I just realized I could scroll with Left/Right
[00:58] <hubar_> what is the new app that is supposed to replace konversation?
[00:59] <EtFb> hubar_: I got sick of konv. and installed kvIrc instead.  Much better.
[00:59] <syockit> hubar_: They're considering kvirc or quassel
[00:59] <syockit> hubar_: Since both have qt4
[01:00] <hubar_> what is the notable advantage of kvIrc/quassel over konversation?
[01:00] <syockit> quassel's said to be lightweight, but everytime I run it, it takes considerable processing when it joins a channel. I dunno why
[01:00] <syockit> EtFb: kvirc's that good?
[01:00] <pkodon> Any advantage of any of those over Kopete?
[01:00] <hubar_> It seems KDE developers love to switch the default applications around.
[01:01] <wil__> españl
[01:01] <hubar_> without a good reason...
[01:01] <wil__> español
[01:01] <kaddi> !es
[01:01] <EtFb> syockit: It's OK.  Konversation was bad enough that I had to change, and I've been using kvirc for a while on my Windoze box at work.
[01:02] <hubar_> EtFb: what is wrong with konversation for you? :)
[01:02] <EtFb> Being able to split the screen to put the system messages at the top is good - means there's less clutter (BObama [n=chief@whitehouse.gov] as joined #kubuntu, and so on)
[01:02] <syockit> okay, installing kvirc now
[01:03] <EtFb> hubar_: Too many things I couldn't figure out how to do.  Typical KDE software: you need to know how to find and edit the config files to make it do stuff, and too many features aren't implemented yet.
[01:03] <pkodon> EtFb: I take it all of those programs are IRC-specific.
[01:03] <pkodon> EtFb: Is there anything on linux that's like mIRC?
[01:03] <syockit> That system message feature's good enough to draw me to kvirc
[01:04] <Walzmyn> anybody running 8.04 having trouble with flash in firefox?
[01:04] <syockit> pkodon: probably xchat?
[01:04] <Walzmyn> pkodon, i'm using xchat
[01:04] <EtFb> pkodon: I find using a universal chat program like kopete or Pidgin for IRC just doesn't work for me.  The idioms are too different.
[01:04]  * Walzmyn agrees with EtFb 
[01:04] <syockit> EtFb: yup. You can never irc comfortably on those
[01:04] <EtFb> syockit: When you're on, ask me how to set it up for the split-screen thing.  It's not obvious.
[01:05] <hubar_> I dunno, I use chatzilla a lot at work PC, that says a lot of my IRC tolerance.:)
[01:05] <EtFb> hubar_: Yeah, I used to use that.  Convenience (ie having it right there in your browser) is often enough.  I use Emacs's "erc" the same way sometimes.  At least I know how to configure that: read the source and find out what global variables to set!
[01:06] <pkodon> EtFb: Okay, thanks for the input, I've been using Kopete because I often find myself having to be on both IM and IRC at the same time, and it has been nice to be able to see when someone has spoken to me on the other system.
[01:06] <Walzmyn> I've got the flash plugin installed from the repos, but anything flash related tells me I need to download the player
[01:06] <syockit> lol create desktop shortcut!
[01:06] <pkodon> As for XChat, what does it use for scripting?
[01:06] <EtFb> Walzmyn: Restart your browser.
[01:06] <Walzmyn> EtFb, been this way for 2 or 3 weeks
[01:08] <pkodon> Walzmyn: Hmm, I had the same problem, till I trashed my Linux and overwrote it with PC/OS (don't know what the difference between Xubuntu and PC/OS is, as it's just Xubuntu with some multimedia stuff added).
[01:08] <EtFb> Walzmyn: 2 or 3 weeks without YouTube?  Unthinkable!
[01:09] <Walzmyn> HA! I could live without flash myself. but friends keep sending me youtube links, figured I should try to watch them
[01:09] <pkodon> Walzmyn: Well, you never know what you'll find on YouTube.
[01:10] <EtFb> Walzmyn: <apt-get --purge remove> the lot - I assume you're using Firefox - and make sure you've got the Medibuntu repos.  Then try it again.  Something must have gotten b0rked as you were installing.
[01:10] <pkodon> Walzmyn: You might also try installing Opera, but get the latest one from their website, not from the Ubuntu repository.
[01:11] <Walzmyn> pkodon, i've got opera installed, it is by far my faovred, but the 64 bit version seems to just drag around something aweful
[01:12] <ZiRiS> can someone tell me how to 'copy' inside of a terminal, please?
[01:12] <hubar_> damn what a mess, kvirc is pretty nice, :) At least it has theme support!
[01:12] <pkodon> Walzmyn: Oh, I didn't know you were using 64-bit.
[01:12] <Walzmyn> EtFb, it was working just fine and then stopped. I don't recall an update to either the flash package or to firefox, but one coulda slipped past me
[01:12] <Walzmyn> pkodon, yeah, and i don't think you can get flash with 64 bit opera anyway, can you?
[01:12] <pkodon> Walzmyn: Do you have autoupdates turned on in Firefox?
[01:13] <Walzmyn> ZiRiS, use your mouse
[01:13] <Walzmyn> pkodon, yes
[01:13] <kaddi> ZiRiS: enter cp --help
[01:13] <kaddi> should tell you all need to know :)
[01:13] <ZiRiS> Walzmyn: very funny. I am trying to copy a file from one location to another.
[01:13] <pkodon> Walzmyn: Well, I don't know if it does it's updates in the background or if it lets you know if it's updating, but I've never seen it update on my installation.
[01:14] <ZiRiS> kaddi: tyvm!!
[01:15] <pkodon> ZiRiS: Want to make it easy? Install Midnight Commander and use that. ( apt-get install mc)
[01:16] <ZiRiS> Is it possible to use wild characters in a term window with the command 'cp'?
[01:16] <Walzmyn> ZiRiS, oh, sorry, missunderstood
[01:16] <ZiRiS> Walzmyn: s'ok
[01:16] <EtFb> ZiRiS: I assumed you meant copy-paste via the clipboard too.
[01:16] <gorgonizer> ZiRiS: yes, you should be able to use wildcards with the cp command..
[01:17] <ZiRiS> if wild characters are useable, what IS the wild character? * doesn't seem to work
[01:17] <kaddi> ZiRiS: it's possible i've seen it on google this evening... not sure how it works though
[01:17] <EtFb> ZiRiS: Wildcards are different in Linux.  Imagine you have a directory containing foo.txt. bar.txt and baz.log.  If you type somecommand *.txt, it gets converted by the shell processor to somecommand foo.txt bar.txt.
[01:17] <ZiRiS> sudo cp Xorg.conf.* /media/disk/etc/X11 gives me error message: cp: cannot stat `Xorg.conf.*': No such file or directory
[01:18] <EtFb> That is, the shell expands it, so the somecommand never sees the * wildcard.
[01:18] <ZiRiS> I'm currently on the live cd since kubuntu wont load from the hdd
[01:18] <EtFb> ZiRiS: If that's what you typed, fair enough. There's no Xorg.conf.* file there by default; the X should be lowercase.
[01:19] <ZiRiS> ahhh, you're right
[01:19] <ZiRiS> EtFb: sweet, thx. That got it.
[01:19] <EtFb> ZiRiS: Watch out also: in DOS, you can dir *.* and get all files; in Linux, that would only find files with dots in their names.
[01:20] <hubar_> hmm I am using the kde experimental PPA in the topic, but how come I still use amarok 1.4?
[01:21] <ZiRiS> see...  what had happened was... I installed a fresh install of kubuntu after the same issue happened in ubuntu. I installed the recommended driver for my vid card (nVidia 8600GT) and rebooted, but xserver won't load. So I'm trying to copy the files listed previously and a few others to try to fix this. anyone else have a suggestion?
[01:21] <gorgonizer> hubar_: as amarok 2 isn't favoured by Amarok fans atm...
[01:21] <EtFb> hubar_: I didn't think there was a new Amarok yet.
[01:21] <hubar_> ahh.
[01:21] <hubar_> okay. :)
[01:22] <gorgonizer> EtFb: Amarok 2 is available (2.0.1.1) but it appears a bit buggy.. and uses an embedded MySQL server atm..
[01:22] <hubar_> Is adept or kpackage the one that is preferred by KDE4?
[01:22] <gorgonizer> hubar_: I think Adept is, until Jaunty comes out, which is using Kpackagekit I believe..
[01:23] <EtFb> New puzzle: sometimes when I suspend, the pm-suspend.log shows all sorts of segfaults, on nearly every line.  How can I debug that?
[01:23] <EtFb> hubar_: kpackage is broken -- there are still some features that aren't implemented, like search.
[01:23] <hubar_> oh.
[01:23] <EtFb> hubar_: I'll be glad to see the end of Adept though; hideous unusable piece of crap.
[01:24] <hubar_> why?
[01:24] <EtFb> hubar_: I just hope kpackage is an improvement; doesn't look like it so far.
[01:24] <gorgonizer> EtFb: I agree with that, tend to use the command line to find/install packages..
[01:24] <hubar_> It is certainly not as good as synaptic though.
[01:24] <EtFb> hubar_: Basically because the people who designed it don't use it themselves.  So they haven't given it the usability improvements it needs.
[01:25] <hubar_> lol, they use command lines?
[01:25] <Ketrel> Ok, I have a question: I'm having this problem: http://forum.kde.org/rssnow-looks-ugly-after-plasma-restart-t-30813.html Anyone, have any idea what might be the cause, since some people I've talked to can't reproduce it
[01:30] <wildbat> hello
[01:30] <kaddi> !hu
[01:30] <kaddi> !hi
[01:30] <kaddi> :D
[01:33] <wildbat> anyone knoe if i can mount the windows shared pc to a directory instead of mount the sharepoint one by one??
[01:33] <hubar_> hmm, can someone tell me what package contains "showdesktop
[01:33] <hubar_> " in KDE4.2?
[01:34] <wildbat> KDE4.1
[01:34] <hubar_> The showdesktop widget doesn't work for me. :(
[01:36] <kaddi> no widget is working for me... don't be sad... they'll fix it someday. :D (google says its in the addon-package ;) )
[01:37] <hubar_> err never mind. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181109v
[01:37] <kaddi> kdeplasma-addons to be precise
[01:39] <|syockit|> EtFb: I'm on now
[01:39] <|syockit|> EtFb: Do I need scripts for that?
[01:39] <EtFb> Cool.  So: see the green arrow above the User List?  Click it to open up a hidden toolbar.
[01:40] <EtFb> Then click the first button, with the tooltip "Split View".  Et voila!  Clutter-b-gone!
[01:40] <|syockit|> EtFb: Nice!
[01:41] <EtFb> |syockit|: Isn't it, just?  The killer feature for IRC.  I hear the Konversation people are planning to implement it Real Soon Now.
[01:41] <hubar_> adept is so useless, have to use synaptic to install it. :(
[01:41] <|syockit|> EtFb: after porting Qt4, if that should happen
[01:47] <nate_> hello
[01:49] <nate_> i am confused, when i download a .deb and install it with gdebi i cant seem to find the installed program.  i have done this with many different porgrams
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> Depends on the program. /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin would be the first places I'd look
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> "which programname" from Konsole might find it too
[01:54] <|syockit|> aahh, the only thing I'm gonna be missing from konv is the tab
[01:57] <nate_> i tried those places and "which ..." doesn't tell me
[01:57] <EtFb> |syockit|: Que?
[02:00] <|syockit|> EtFb: any ways to turn the window list into tabs?
[02:04] <EtFb> |syockit|: Doesn't look like it.  How odd.
[02:17] <K`zan> Is kde4.2 going to be an update for the 8.10/kde4.1 distro?
[02:23] <|syockit|> I suppose not
[02:25] <eulerman> I need help. I am having issues with grub after installing kubuntu. uuid invalid and after each boot drops to a shell.
[02:28] <eulerman> If no one here knows, can you point me to a better board?
[03:05] <Sir_Captain> hi everybody, is there a package that will allow me to creat pdf files?
[03:06] <quadaptor> exists a bash command, that runs a command for each line in file (like find -exec), e.g.   cat filelist.txt -exec basename {} \;
[03:07] <Sir_Captain> quadaptor: was that to me, and if so, i'm confused.  could you explain how that creates a pdf?
[03:08] <K`zan> Is kde4.2 going to be an update for the 8.10/kde4.1 distro?
[03:10] <tommy> sir http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-pdf-documents-in-ubuntu.html
[03:11] <Sir_Captain> tommy: thanks, i'll check it out
[03:15] <alex_> Is there a document that explains what needs to be done to port a 4.1 plasmoid to KDE 4.2?
[03:18] <unixdawg> ok how do I get sshd to start at bot on kubuntu
[03:18] <unixdawg> rm plasmoid and reinstall it on 4.2
[03:19] <unixdawg> bot/boot
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> K`zan- there are instructions for installing KDE 4.2 in Kubuntu 8.10 in the announcement
[03:31] <tommy> I got this realflight usb interlink controller for radio controlled simulator games. Does Ubuntu have any games that could use this.
[03:40] <quassel154> tommy  you could try flightgear
[03:41] <tommy> thanks quassel
[03:44] <quassel154> I do remember playing a raido controlled simulator game but I cant remember what its called
[03:45] <K`zan> Dragnslcr: Thanks!
[03:47] <tommy> I bought the game with cd called real flight g2. I cant find the original cd. I made a backup which installs game but then wants original cd to run. I still have cd case with install serial number.
[03:56] <rmrfslash> does anyone know why firefox checkboxes look odd under KDE
[03:56] <rmrfslash> and scroll bars
[03:56] <rmrfslash> odd as in, unstyled
[03:58] <|syockit|> rmrfslash: firefox uses gtk. Tell your kde to use specific gtk style tailored for qt
[03:58] <|syockit|> rmrfslash: wait, I'll give you link
[03:59] <|syockit|> rmrfslash: http://forum.kde.org/how-to-integrate-firefox-into-kde-t-17786.html
[04:06] <rmrfslash> better
[04:09] <[Tripler]> whats the main webcam utility for ubuntu?
[04:11] <d_ronin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[04:11] <d_ronin> [Tripler]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[04:12] <[Tripler]> thx
[04:31] <Retj> hello
[04:33] <d_ronin> hi
[04:44] <tommy> is there a kubuntu software to access usenet
[04:45] <Retj> usenet?
[04:46] <tommy> i was trying bittorrent and it said usenet may have it i think its like newsgroups
[04:47] <Retj> really dont know lol
[04:49] <|syockit|> really, it dznt have to be kubuntu specific, does it?
[04:50] <tommy> i tried add remove programs and one of them was pan for newsgroups
[05:37] <lascar1> !kde
[05:41] <lascar1> currently using Gnome
[05:41] <lascar1> ::shudder::
[05:41] <lascar1> as you can imagine, I hate the lack of important settings
[05:42] <lascar1> but i'm wondering...how do I install kde3?  I don't like 4.
[05:51] <notranc> my kubuntu started to fail to preserve session settings between reboots at some point. Any idea? thanks
[05:58] <ubuntu_> hey there all, kubuntu has done something awful and i need help please
[05:59] <ubuntu_> for some reason i have lost my boot files and folder, my etc folder, and cannot boot without k disk\
[06:00] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:00] <ubuntu_> ???
[06:06] <gp> why of why OO spell check never works !!
[06:07] <gp> did ubuntu team forgot to ship english dictionary
[06:07] <gp> these such a basic feature
[06:15] <uga> gp: you can download and install it from the official site in any case: www.openoffice.org
[06:15] <uga> gp: I ended up doing that, given the brokenness of the available ooo 3 packages
[06:16] <ubuntu_> excellent, now how do i restore my pc please?
[06:16] <ubuntu_> get error 15 when trying grub commands
[06:16] <uga> ubuntu_: you should check if those files are available when you boot, and make sure the path to them is correct
[06:17] <uga> ubuntu_: if so, you'll need to install kernel packages again
[06:18] <uga> s/if so/if not
[06:19] <ubuntu_> non-existant when i boot from disk
[06:19] <ubuntu_> correct path via sda1
[06:19] <ubuntu_> i copied files accross from var/lib/cache or something like that, but no good
[06:21] <ubuntu_> so i think ther're unavailable, and really i'm shocked, where did they go?
[06:22] <ubuntu_> s/if so/if not?
[06:24] <ubuntu_> please i don't know what to do
[06:30] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: so what's the problem? you can't boot?
[06:31] <ubuntu_> correct
[06:31] <ubuntu_> missing boot and etc folders
[06:32] <ubuntu_> trying to restore from restore program, we'll see,
[06:33] <ubuntu_> grub error 15 on boot
[06:33] <ubuntu_> not sure if that's an mbr problem or what?
[06:38] <mefisto__> restore program?
[06:39] <ubuntu_> simple restore,
[06:39] <ubuntu_> sorry, simple backup
[06:39] <ubuntu_> sbackup
[06:40] <mefisto__> ok, you have a backup. have you done the restore yet?
[06:41] <ubuntu_> can only find etc folder as yet, if i can get k to reboot, will it rewright /etc on the fly?
[06:43] <mefisto__> no it won't rewrite /etc on boot
[06:43] <mefisto__> does /etc exist or is it missing?
[06:43] <ubuntu_> it's missing
[06:44] <ubuntu_> ark has not permission to write to /media/disk
[06:44] <mefisto__> any idea why?
[06:44] <ubuntu_> and sudo ark from konsole says communication problem
[06:44] <ubuntu_> i was using a wine ftp backup program when the power went out?
[06:45] <ubuntu_> driveHQ backup
[06:46] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: if /boot and /etc are missing, you might want to consider backing up your home folder and reinstalling
[06:47] <ubuntu_> looks like the go, getting over re-installing atft though
[06:47] <ubuntu_> is someone into hacking me?
[06:48] <ubuntu_> and running outa hdd's, since my windows drive reads to kubuntu as full when it's not
[06:49] <notranc> ubuntu_ if you are going to reinstall, create a separate partition for home. I don't know why that is not available by default! Separate /home makes it possible to reinstall without losing your home files.
[06:51] <ubuntu_> very sweet, does that mean two partitions on the disk
[06:51] <ubuntu_> ?
[06:51] <|syockit|> ubuntu_: it can be even more.
[06:52] <|syockit|> ubuntu_: by default you have a partition for whole ubuntu, and also another for swap
[06:52] <|syockit|> ubuntu_: usually people advise to create another partition for /home, as you want to reuse that when reinstalling os
[07:11] <xp-killer> how do i install real media player,its onmy desktop with an bin extention
[07:13] <mefisto__> xp-killer: run it with sudo, eg, sudo sh ~/Desktop/Realplayer-installer.bin
[07:24] <mikevieira> hi
[07:24] <mikevieira> I'm back
[07:24] <mikevieira> after a reboot everything started working fine
[07:24] <mikevieira> thanls for the support before
[07:24] <mikevieira> thanks
[07:30] <Hentai> mikevieira, cool
[07:57] <CQ> hello, I have a strange problem with 8.10 x86_64 ... when I reboot, my resolution is too low... I log in, go to System settings -> Display, and the resolution changes to the right one automatically without me having to do anything ... any ideas?
[07:59] <yao_ziyuan> how do i open up a port in kubuntu?
[08:00] <yao_ziyuan> opening up port 8887 is recommended by i2p
[08:00] <yao_ziyuan> it is currently firewalled
[08:04] <zaapiel-mobile> i didnt think kubuntu had firewall software by default
[08:05] <pwill> hello! I was wondering if anyone could help me get this style of menu : http://liquidat.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/menu.png
[08:06] <pwill> I've been told that I ought to be able to right click on my k menu and change the style, but the option is not there for me.
[08:07] <zaapiel-mobile> yao_ziyuan: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 8887 -j ACCEPT
[08:07] <zaapiel-mobile> that would open it up if it is iptables blocking it
[08:08] <yao_ziyuan> and for udp just change tcp to udp?
[08:11] <zaapiel-mobile> yeah i think
[08:11] <zaapiel-mobile> i never used it for that
[08:11] <zaapiel-mobile> man iptables
[08:11] <zaapiel-mobile> yup
[08:11] <zaapiel-mobile> or all for all
[08:12] <zaapiel-mobile> anyways bed time, good luck
[08:14] <yao_ziyuan> i used sudo iptables -A INPUT -p udp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 8887 -j ACCEPT
[08:15] <yao_ziyuan> i2p still says my udp 8887 port is not open
[08:19] <syockit> pwill: no, that involves plasma themes. You have to change it by right clicking on the desktop
[08:20] <syockit> pwill: you need to find which plasma theme has the white stuff
[08:27] <server_> Hello All
[08:28] <server_> I have had this problem all day - I have a A8n-SLI with a CK804 built in sound card, and I have no audio - if i turn on duplicate front I get sound out of my rear speakers but thats it.. I have googled all the threads but still not working, any ideas ?
[08:32] <alssong> hello
[08:33] <yao_ziyuan> is there a default firewall running in kde4?
[08:34] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: same as every other linux distro, iptables
[08:36] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: could it be your router that is blocking that port?
[08:38] <stat54> åñòü òóò ðóññêèå?:)
[08:38] <yao_ziyuan> mefisto__: maybe
[08:38] <yao_ziyuan> using gufw i enabled tcp and udp 8887 but i2p still says udp 8887 is not open
[08:38] <stat54> hi
[08:38] <jussi01> !ru | stat54
[08:38] <yao_ziyuan> "WARN - Firewalled with Inbound TCP Enabled - You have configured inbound TCP, however      your UDP port is firewalled, and therefore it is likely that your TCP port is firewalled as well.      If your TCP port is firewalled with inbound TCP enabled, routers will not be able to contact      you via TCP, which will hurt the network. Please open your firewall or disable inbound TCP above.  "
[08:41] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: try this page and see if your router is in the list http://portforward.com/routers.htm
[08:41] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: its quite rude to ask in 2 places at once ;) Please dont cross post.
[08:43] <syockit> jussi01: is it? but some #ubuntu-ers aren't in #kubuntu, and vice-versa
[09:27] <server_> Hello anyone here got a CK804 sound card ? or A8n-Sli motherboard ?
[09:34] <ct529> hi there
[09:34] <ct529> does anyone know of a good sip phone that can record phone calls as well?
[09:47] <dhq> is there anyway to read exfat on ubuntu
[10:09] <mefisto__> dhq: seems you need to patch the kernel: http://groups.google.com/group/fa.linux.kernel/msg/e2e23eeb3a016268?pli=1
[10:09] <yozza> lo all
[10:09] <dhq> mefisto__: ok i will check it out.... thanx
[10:09] <yozza> does anyone here know about kubuntu
[10:09] <carpii> DUH.
[10:09] <carpii> just ask your question
[10:10] <yozza> ok stupid question
[10:10] <yozza> cool cheers
[10:10] <yozza> i can't get dns to work in kubuntu 8.1
[10:10] <yozza> i can ping my router
[10:10] <yozza> and other comps but no domain names work
[10:10] <yozza> i set the dns server but im not sure which format it wants
[10:11] <yozza> theres no dots for the dns part for an IP address
[10:11] <yozza> can i set dns from the cmd line
[10:11] <yozza> ?
[10:12] <yozza> also i dont know how to install my ati drivers. they are a .run file
[10:12] <carpii> whats in /etc/resolve.conf ?
[10:13] <yozza> not sure, its dual boot
[10:13] <yozza> ill have to restart to find out
[10:13] <yozza> what should be there?
[10:13] <carpii> primary and secondary dns ip's  in the format  'nameserver  ip.ip.ip.ip'
[10:14] <yozza> cool cheers
[10:14] <yozza> ill have a go
[10:14] <yozza> be back in a bit
[10:14] <dhq> mefisto__: can you help me know how to patch
[10:15] <butterflygirl> when I push fuction keys (such as Fn+F7 etc to change brightness) where is the script that runs?
[10:16] <mefisto__> dhq: never done it myself, so I'm the wrong person to ask
[10:17] <dhq> do any one know how to patch a kernel
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:25] <cortex_sk> butterflygirl: i'm not sure /etc/acpi?
[10:27] <sergi> Hi all, Can anyone help me how to install LAMPP on Kubuntu?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[10:28] <dhq> ActionParsnip: how do i patch my kernel
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !patch
[10:28] <sergi> Thanks, And why can`t i find it in my repos?
[10:29] <butterflygirl> cortex_sk: yep, I thought I found it, but when I push the button the corresponding video_brightnessup.sh doesn't run :-(
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> sergi: i dont think there is a metapackage for it
[10:33] <sergi> i am now installing with this command: sudo tasksel install lamp-server. is it right?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !info lamp-server
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> sergi: thats what the guide says, i'd try it
[10:35] <syockit> sergi, you got that from guide?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> sergi: or you can: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[10:36] <sergi> thanks, it has not finished yet, I am Using Hardy Heron..
[10:37] <sergi> Cool, It finished :) Thank you too much!
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> np man
[11:05] <floh> Hi, is there a way to detect which "harddisk-type" is a device (like /dev/sdb)? I mean to detect if this is a internal ones, USB, eSATA, Firewire...
[11:07] <xp-killer> mefisto__: after i do sudo sh ~/Desktop/Realplayer-installer.bin what else i have to do?
[11:08] <mefisto__> xp-killer: that should be all. but that command is just an example, you need to put in the actual name of the .bin file
[11:15] <xp-killer> mefisto__: but i cant get tru to run real player
[11:16] <spark__> Hi guys!
[11:17] <mefisto__> xp-killer: did the installer run?
[11:17] <spark__> I'm running kubuntu jaunty (from CD) on my Vostro 1310; and knetworkmanager is unable to connect to my wpa2/psk wireless network. Is this related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/259278 - and is there something of a fix yet?
[11:17] <xp-killer> mefisto__: no i only did sudo sh ~/Desktop/Realplayer-installer.bin thatts it
[11:18] <xp-killer> mefisto__: nothig came on or run
[11:18] <mefisto__> xp-killer: is the installer on your desktop? I think that's what you said earlier
[11:19] <xp-killer> mefisto__: yea
[11:19] <xp-killer> mefisto__: its a bin file
[11:20] <mefisto__> xp-killer: ok, type this: sudo sh ~/Desktop/Real    then press the tab key on your keyboard and the rest of the filename should be filled in (like tab completion in konversation)
[11:22] <xp-killer> mefisto__: it give me 2 errors
[11:23] <xp-killer> mefisto__: http://pastebin.com/m756d8760
[11:24] <mefisto__> xp-killer: try bash instead of sh: sudo bash /home/xp-killer/Desktop/RealPlayer11GOLD.bin
[11:24] <carpii> just  cd Desktop     then     chmod 777 RealPlayer.bin   then ./RealPlayer.bin
[11:25] <sergi> chmod 777 means chmod a+x ?
[11:25] <carpii> just gives everyone rwx yes
[11:25] <xp-killer> mefisto__: cannot execute binary file
[11:26] <carpii> xp-killer, try what i suggested
[11:26] <xp-killer> carpii: no such file
[11:27] <sergi> xp-killer: try chmod a+x RealPlayer.bin
[11:27] <carpii> oh come on, use the real filename instead of the one i typed
[11:27] <carpii> a little common sense is required :(
[11:27] <mefisto__> xp-killer: try to follow what people are telling you. use the actual filename, not RealPlayer.bin
[11:27] <sergi> then sudo ./RealPlayer.bin
[11:28] <mefisto__> xp-killer: also, if you don't use sudo to run it, it will install in your home directory, which will make it harder to use once it's installed
[11:29] <xp-killer> carpii: mefisto__ sergi evrything u write there i does copy and paste so slow down and tell me what exactly i have to type in the window
[11:29] <sergi> chmod a+x realplayer.bin
[11:30] <sergi> sudo ./realplayer.bin
[11:30] <xp-killer> not everyone have a brain especialy when ther new to this linux thing
[11:31] <mefisto__> xp-killer: just replace the examples with the actual filename: RealPlayer11GOLD.bin
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !find helix
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !info helix-player
[11:33] <xp-killer> mefisto__: witch one is the example? sergi that comand u give me dont work:no such file and no sutch command
[11:36] <sergi> xp-killer try this:
[11:36] <sergi> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[11:36] <sergi> cd ~/Desktop
[11:36] <sergi> chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[11:36] <sergi> sudo ./RealPlayerGOLD.bin
[11:38] <sergi> xp-killer you have to copy RealPlayerGOLD.bin to desktop first
[11:39] <xp-killer> sergi: the bin was already on the desktop
[11:39] <sergi> ok, then try commands i wrote
[11:40] <sergi> xp-killer try this:
[11:40] <sergi> [15:36] <sergi> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[11:40] <sergi> [15:36] <sergi> cd ~/Desktop
[11:40] <sergi> [15:36] <sergi> chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[11:40] <sergi> [15:36] <sergi> sudo ./RealPlayerGOLD.bin
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> sergi: you may need to chod +x ~/Desktop/RealPlayerGOLD.bin
[11:42] <xp-killer> command not found
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> !info realplayer
[11:43] <xp-killer> i will be back i hav to go driven class for an hour
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-the-realplayer-multimedia-player
[11:43] <xp-killer> brb in 1:30min
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[11:54] <Tm_T> hi kids
[11:55] <ct529> anyone who has used asterisk or freeswitch on kubuntu?
[12:30] <RurouniJones> Howdy all, anyone know how I can get multiple KDE logins running at the same time? Like how at the moment you can use CTRL+ALT+F6 which switches your to a command prompt, how can I make that another KDE instance? (For example, to run a wine game which doesn't like being minimiseD)
[12:32] <sleeping> later guys
[12:48] <ct529> I have some serious problems with bibus + openoffice on kubuntu 8.10 .... is there another alternative?
[12:50] <periko_> hi
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ct529: staroffice
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !info staroffice
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ct529: koffice
[12:55] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I meant to bibus .... :D .... I do not think koffice can yet support full odf? is there any integrated bibliographic software?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> !info koffice
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> ct529: not sure of that, i dont use it
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> let me search
[12:56] <ct529> ActionParsnip: what do you use?
[13:03] <HighAndDry> hi!
[13:03] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I am testing jabref
[13:03] <HighAndDry> i've trouble with kde 4 and open office 3
[13:04] <puneeth> how to update to KDE 4.2?
[13:04] <HighAndDry> i can't see toolbar icons of any OO3 program
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> puneeth: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[13:05] <HighAndDry> ive tried installin gtk-kde4-engines and with diferent open office styles
[13:05] <puneeth> m on it
[13:05] <HighAndDry> but nothing seems to work
[13:05] <HighAndDry> any idea?
[13:05] <puneeth> actionparsnip; m on it
[13:05] <ct529> HighAndDry: you are not the only one ....
[13:06] <HighAndDry> great! is it a bug?
[13:06] <HighAndDry> can't be resolved until they release a patch or something like that ?
[13:06] <ct529> HighAndDry: you need to install the openoffice.org-debian-menus
[13:07] <ct529> HighAndDry: the openoffice.org3 ones of course
[13:07] <HighAndDry> ct529: umm and where's it?
[13:07] <ct529> HighAndDry: did you compile it yourself?
[13:08] <HighAndDry> ct529: nono i used an unofficial .deb repository
[13:08] <HighAndDry> let's search in the internet je :) google doesn't bite hehe
[13:08] <ct529> HighAndDry: which one?
[13:09] <ct529> HighAndDry: I did compile it and it works really well
[13:09] <ct529> HighAndDry: only problem is interaction with bibus
[13:09] <HighAndDry> http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu
[13:09] <HighAndDry> that's the repository
[13:11] <HighAndDry> do you know where to download that damn package? or do i have to uninstall my installation and do it by compiling the source code?
[13:12] <ct529> HighAndDry: install openoffice.org-kde_3.0.1-1ubuntu1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[13:12] <HighAndDry> mmm but i use 32 bits he
[13:13] <ct529> HighAndDry: well, ok install the 32 bit one
[13:13] <HighAndDry> and sorry for my ignorance, but where are those packages??
[13:14] <ct529> HighAndDry: in the respository you showed me!
[13:14] <HighAndDry> ohh strange, i didnt see them before
[13:14] <HighAndDry> let's try
[13:14] <ct529> HighAndDry: as root, apt-get install openoffice.org-kde_3.0.1
[13:14] <ct529> HighAndDry: or use adept, or synaptic
[13:14] <HighAndDry> ok!
[13:18] <zer0o> hi how do i find my ip? what the command on the konsole? thx
[13:19] <Pliskin> zer0o : ifconfig ?
[13:19] <zer0o> thanks
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: do you mean your lan ip or wan ip?
[13:22] <zer0o> found it found it thanks, another thing, what kind of protection u think is better for a wi-fi router? wep? wap?
[13:23] <zer0o> of course im asking for a personal opinion so plz dont paste that thing about "whatz better and whatz not bla bla bla :D"
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: wap is for mobile phones, you are thinking of wpa
[13:23] <zer0o> sure :D
[13:23] <ct529> zer0o: there is a nice article on linux format, last issue I think .... you should use wpa ....
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: some wifi cards dont support wpa in linux but wpa is stronger
[13:24] <zer0o> mmm ok so what should i do? :D
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> i use wep for simplicity but also use a tonne of other security
[13:24] <vbgunz> I have not seen a single jaunty update in 4 days. whats wrong?>
[13:24]  * ct529 rebooting X
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | vbgunz
[13:25] <zer0o> the wpa is the one in which i can put a word right?
[13:25] <zer0o> but why does it say "key renewal = 3600 seconds" below it?
[13:25] <puneeth> approximately can some one tell me how big the update is... i am currently on KDE 4.1.4
[13:25] <zer0o> if i decide to use a specific word as a password (wpa?) is ithis kew renewal going to change it?
[13:26] <fumfel> jest ktos z polski? ;)
[13:26] <puneeth> update to kde 4.2 that is
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> !polish | fumfel
[13:26] <puneeth> !botsnack
[13:26] <puneeth> !KDE 4.2
[13:26] <puneeth> !KDE
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> puneeth: factoids dont have spaces
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[13:28] <puneeth> actionparsnip; factoids?
[13:33] <xp-killer> how do i uninstall real player from the system?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: let me get you a link
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_11.0.0-0.2_i386.deb
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: install that
[13:36] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: i just want to uninstall it cause im seing in my Kmenu but its not runing,so uninstall to reinstall
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you'll need ia32 libs to run 32bit apps
[13:36] <scon_> !how can i watch video on firefox
[13:36] <yao_ziyuan> where can i download the default wallpapers of kubuntu 7.10, 8.04?
[13:36] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: im a beginner i have no idea what your talking about
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> scon_: what sort of video
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer:  are you running 64bit linux?
[13:37] <xp-killer> no idea
[13:37] <scon_> on youtube
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan: apt-cache search wallpaper
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: can you give me the output of uname -a
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> !flash | scon_
[13:38] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: flash i already isnt that for browsers?
[13:38] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: i want real player install on my pc to use it as a player like kaffeine
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: its what youtube uses
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if you give me the output of the command I can advise
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: notice how the thing about flash was not aimed at you, it was aimed at scon_
[13:40] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: oh
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: ;)
[13:41] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: ok so how do i unninstall realplayer?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: how was it installed initially?
[13:41] <ct529> that is good!
[13:42] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: it was a bin file
[13:42] <mefisto__> xp-killer: you're uninstalling it now?
[13:42] <xp-killer> mefisto__: yea to start from the begining cause its not running i have a feeling thats y u guys command not working
[13:43] <scon__> hello
[13:43] <musical> hi    folks
[13:43] <ct529> xp-killer: dpkg -l *player*
[13:44] <ct529> xp-killer: see if realplayer has been packaged before installing
[13:44] <musical> I tried to upgrade from   kubuntu 4.1 to 4.2 - as a result kubuntu has disappeared from the menu
[13:44] <xp-killer> mefisto__: u rather i leave it how it is and continue to try to run it?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you could install the deb and then remove that
[13:44] <scon__> !how can i watch video with firefox on youtube???
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> musical: what menu?
[13:44] <ct529> scon__: use the flash plugin
[13:44] <musical> any desktop menu
[13:44] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: wher can i find realplayer deb?
[13:44] <musical> at looogin
[13:44] <mefisto__> xp-killer: see if it's in /opt/Real or in your home directory.
[13:44] <scon__> how can i get?
[13:45] <musical> at login
[13:45] <ct529> xp-killer: run the command I gave you to see if it has been installed as part of the package database ....
[13:45] <musical> using xfce at the moment
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> musical: try booting to another DE and reinstalling it
[13:45] <musical> how do I reinnstall it?
[13:45] <ct529> xp-killer: if not run "whereis realplayer" just to see if it was installed in the proper place
[13:45] <scon__> ct529 how can i get it
[13:45] <musical> how do I reinstall it
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> musical: how did you install it?
[13:46] <ct529> scon__: ActionParsniphas already given you a link ages ago .... scroll up
[13:46] <musical> upgrade using adept
[13:46] <xp-killer> ct529: it give me a bunch of stuff
[13:46] <scon__> i didn't see can you sendme  again
[13:46] <scon__> pls
[13:47] <ct529> scon_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:47] <ct529> xp-killer: pastebin
[13:48] <xp-killer> ct529: http://pastebin.com/m377c4e27
[13:48] <musical> ActionParsnip - I    installed it  from the KDE 4.1 desktop  (8.1) using adept upgrade
[13:49] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip:  i just did fullupgrade in adept what did it upgrade?
[13:50] <ct529> xp-killer: not part of the package databse I am afraid .... do whereis realplayer
[13:51] <xp-killer> ct529: the bin file is on my desktop and im seing real player install in my Kmenu
[13:51] <ct529> xp-killer: please do whereis realplayer
[13:52] <xp-killer> ct529: oh lol
[13:52] <xp-killer> ct529: it said notting
[13:52] <xp-killer> ct529: just real player
[13:53] <ct529> xp-killer: then it is not installed in any of the recognised paths, that is the reason because it does not work
[13:53] <mefisto__> it is probably in his home directory. xp-killer, type this: whereis realplay
[13:53] <xp-killer> mefisto__: i did type that allready
[13:53] <ct529> xp-killer: add the medibuntu repository
[13:54] <mefisto__> xp-killer: realplay, not realplayer
[13:54] <xp-killer> ct529: well if its not install help me instal it,its on my desktop its a bin file
[13:54] <mefisto__> ct529: realplayer is no longer in the medibuntu repos
[13:54] <ct529> xp-killer: I am helping you .... add the medibuntu repository
[13:55] <xp-killer> i never linux can be so complicated lol this os is not for people with no experience with pc lol
[13:55] <xp-killer> ct529: how do i add that?
[13:55] <ct529> !medibuntu
[13:55] <ct529> mefisto__: that would probably install the helix player
[13:56] <mefisto__> ct529: actually it is there for intrepid (I'm using hardy) but it is an older version
[13:57] <ct529> mefisto__: in what sense is 11 an older version?
[13:57] <ubsafder> i have a new webcam usb were should i start to check if i can get it to work with kubuntu
[13:57] <mefisto__> ct529: the medibuntu repo has 10
[13:57] <xp-killer> ct529: and the reason im installing this is for?
[13:57] <ct529> mefisto__: I am installing it right now from medibuntu, and it has 11
[13:58] <ct529> xp-killer: you add the repository where the software you want is .... that is realplayer
[13:58] <ct529> xp-killer: the software packages are in large databases on the internet, called repositories ....
[13:58] <ct529> xp-killer: very useful and very simple .... you add the database and then you can install whateve ris in the database
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: it tells you before you kick it off
[13:58] <xp-killer> ct529: i do 2 commandes and  at the last it give me E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> musical: try following http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[13:59] <ct529> xp-killer: what package manager are you using?
[13:59] <xp-killer> ct529: adept
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> musical: if it says its already installed use --reinstall install
[13:59] <ct529> xp-killer: oh .... I use synaptic
[13:59] <xp-killer> ct529: i did the commandes in konsole
[13:59] <xp-killer> ....mmm
[14:00] <xp-killer> ct529: so should i install synap?
[14:00] <ct529> xp-killer: no better using konsole .... pastebin the output please
[14:00] <musical> thanks
[14:01] <ct529> xp-killer: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> musical: use: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-nightly (i think its that)
[14:02] <xp-killer> ct529: kubuntu,and i have no idea i just choose the 1st comand lol
[14:04] <ct529> xp-killer: :D what abour reading before using a command?
[14:04] <xp-killer> ct529: http://pastebin.com/m43e241f5
[14:04] <xp-killer> ct529: they say its not compatible with ubuntu
[14:05] <xp-killer> ct529: the link u gaive me
[14:05] <thedark> Is there a good DVD region killing program for Kubuntu?
[14:06] <ct529> xp-killer: you used the WRONG command .... you are probably using 8.10 .... did you download the last stable?
[14:06] <ct529> xp-killer: use adept, remove the repository you have just added
[14:06] <thedark> noboy here has ever had to bypass regions?
[14:06] <ct529> xp-killer: and then use the right command, that is sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[14:07] <ct529> xp-killer: then remember to add the gpg key. Use: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[14:07] <ct529> xp-killer: then apt-get install realplayer
[14:07] <xp-killer> ct529: i had used the 9.04 comand
[14:07] <mefisto__> sudo before that last command, xp-killer
[14:07] <ct529> xp-killer: exactly
[14:08] <ct529> xp-killer: but I think you have 8.10, if you have the last stable
[14:08] <ct529> xp-killer: that is intrepid
[14:09] <mefisto__> xp-killer: if you want to make sure what kubuntu version you have: lsb_release -a
[14:09] <ct529> ok, lunch time here!
[14:09] <mefisto__> :)
[14:09] <ct529> xp-killer: I leave you in the capable hand sof mefisto__ .... :)
[14:10] <ct529> see you in an hour!
[14:12] <khalidmian> accidentally deleted the trash icon from dektop folder view any way i can have it back?
[14:13] <xp-killer> mefisto__: http://pastebin.com/m2a918917
[14:13] <thedark> so.... I guess not huh?
[14:14] <thedark> I guess I can't watch region 3 dvds
[14:14] <xp-killer> ouf this like mombo jumbo commands to install a single thing lol but its fun even if my head is spining lol
[14:14] <thedark> I can crack css encryption to watch dvds in my region, but not other regions
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: its nice when you reach the goal too, theres repos with realplayer on if you want
[14:15] <mefisto__> xp-killer: do you have intrepid installed? to find out: lsb_release -a
[14:15] <xp-killer> mefisto__: i dont speak japanees :s i didnt understand nothing u said
[14:16] <mefisto__> xp-killer: just type this: lsb_release -a
[14:16] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: is it a 1 push button as in 1 clic to install then over?
[14:16] <mefisto__> xp-killer: that will tell you what version of kubuntu you have
[14:16] <khalidmian> accidentally deleted the trash icon from dektop folder view any way i can have it back?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: pretty much
[14:17] <xp-killer> mefisto__: 8.04
[14:17] <eddy> I'm not able to surf the web and I need a link to download an ubuntu ppc hardy ISO. Can anyone provideme an ftp link?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: can you give us the output of uname -a
[14:18] <lovre> hello to you all good people
[14:18] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: Linux linux 2.6.24-23-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 27 18:44:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:18] <mefisto__> xp-killer: ok, you have the wrong medibuntu repository
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: great its 32bit
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: cd ~/; wget http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_11.0.0-0.2_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./realplayer_11.0.0-0.2_i386.deb; rm ./realplayer_11.0.0-0.2_i386.deb
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: nice command for you :D
[14:20] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: i deleted trash icon i desktop folder view any way of retrieving it?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> eddy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/hardy/release/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-powerpc.iso
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: no idea man, sorry
[14:20] <mefisto__> xp-killer: can you do this: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[14:20] <eddy> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:20] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: how u know its a 32bit? it didnt say :s
[14:21] <mefisto__> xp-killer: he speaks "japanees"
[14:21] <xp-killer> mefisto__: 1 sec this command ActionParsnip give me taken a while
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: 11mb worth there
[14:21] <xp-killer> mefisto__: nah lol he reads japanees lol
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: your uname says i686
[14:22] <xp-killer> mefisto__:
[14:22] <xp-killer> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:22] <xp-killer>  realplayer
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if it said x86_64 i'd know it was 64bit
[14:22] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: ¨
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: bit of a hack but: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/deleted-trash-icon-in-kde-3.4.2-360298/
[14:23] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: Errors were encountered while processing: realplayer
[14:23] <mefisto__> xp-killer: what caused the errors? which command?
[14:23] <xp-killer> mefisto__: the 1 ActionParsnip give me
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: do you have the .deb in your home dir now?
[14:24] <xp-killer> mefisto__: your comand give me a bunch of stuff then nothing,what do i do next?
[14:25] <mefisto__> xp-killer: if there were no errors after the command I gave you, do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install realplayer
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: the command had him donwloading the .deb for RealPlayer 11
[14:26] <mefisto__> ActionParsnip: yep, I saw that
[14:26] <xp-killer> mefisto__: there werent no errors for the comande u give me
[14:27] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: the deb is not in my home folder
[14:27] <mefisto__> xp-killer: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install realplayer
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: id try mefisto__'s words
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-install-realplayer-on-ubuntu.html
[14:29] <thedark> is there a way around the limited number of region changes in regionset?
[14:30] <xp-killer> mefisto__: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php ActionParsnip
[14:30] <mefisto__> xp-killer: bad link. try again?
[14:30] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: i have kubuntu
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you need to click send, then give us the link
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: its all the same with regards to realplayer
[14:31] <xp-killer> lol sory
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: its still ubuntu under the hood, just different DE and WM
[14:33] <xp-killer> wait im confuse now
[14:33] <xp-killer> iim soing send in pastebin its not sendding me the right site thing,not showing me my link
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: essentially all the *buntus are the same except the user seen bit, tey all use the same repos and can use the same apps
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: look in the address bar ;)\
[14:35] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: :( i lost the copy paste from the konsole
[14:35] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: it got close by error
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: then rerun the same command and you can make a new one
[14:35] <xp-killer> i have a lot of windows open
[14:37] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: its not given me the link :s
[14:38] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip:  i try another website http://pastebin.ca/1331601 mefisto__
[14:38] <marcel__> please how can i install Kdevelop with X includes ?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: sudo apt-get -f install
[14:40] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: at the last it said removing realplayer
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: yay
[14:41] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: now what?
[14:41] <pablo_> my flashplayer is slow
[14:41] <pablo_> can anyone hlep me troubleshoot it???
[14:42] <pablo_> woops,keys got stuck
[14:42] <pablo_> just one ? mark
[14:43] <mefisto__> xp-killer: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list         this should say "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free" somewhere, with "hardy" not "intrepid". is that what you see?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> pablo_: have you installed video drivers?
[14:43] <pablo_> yes
[14:43] <pablo_> i have nvidia
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> pablo_: and are you fully hardware accelerated?
[14:44] <xp-killer> mefisto__: yes
[14:44] <pablo_> ActionParsnip: i think so al the special effects work smoothly
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> pablo_: what nvidia card do you have, desktop effects can run fine on a deccent enough system without drivers
[14:45] <mefisto__> xp-killer: and realplayer was just removed?
[14:45] <pablo_> ActionParsnip: i have a 7200
[14:46] <pablo_> ActionParsnip: almost 100% sure of hardware acceleration
[14:46] <xp-killer> mefisto__: well that what the comand at the last had tell me what ActionParsnip give me but im still seing realplayer 11 in my Kmenu
[14:46] <whut> Hi there, #kubuntu. Is there any GUI tool for PPPoE configuration in Kubuntu?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> pablo_: what release of ubuntu are you using? Intrepid / Hardy
[14:46] <mefisto__> xp-killer: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: launch kmenuedit and delete it
[14:47] <pablo_> ActionParsnip: How can i check?
[14:47] <mefisto__> xp-killer: then do this again: sudo apt-get install realplayer
[14:47] <pablo_> ActionParsnip: i believe it is Intrepid but i am not sure
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> pablo_: so dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | grep -i glx returns results?
[14:48] <xp-killer> mefisto__: http://pastebin.ca/1331605 for the comand  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[14:48] <sorset1> hi, i've edited fstab, how can i apply changes without restart?
[14:48] <whut> Please, how can I establish a DSL connection using Kubuntu? :'(
[14:49] <whut> (I don't have a router, only a DSL-modem)
[14:49] <beachsurfin> my usb drive isn't automounting...
[14:49] <pablo_> ActionParsnip: no results
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> !pppoe | whut
[14:49] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: ok i delete out the Kmenu with that edit thing
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> pablo_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177; kdesudo nvidia-settings
[14:50] <whut> Thank you.
[14:50] <mefisto__> xp-killer: try this on its own: sudo apt-get -y install medibuntu-keyring
[14:51] <xp-killer> mefisto__: it still given me that error with There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[14:52] <beachsurfin> not sure what to mount
[14:52] <mefisto__> xp-killer: ok, without the -y what does it do: sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> sorset1: sudo umount -a
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> beachsurfin: does it show up in sudo fdisk -l ?
[14:53] <vadi2> Hi. How can I install kde3 in kubuntu 8.10?
[14:53] <xp-killer> mefisto__: it give me an ok
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> vadi2: its hard
[14:53] <sorset1> ActionParsnip: thx, but it says "device is busy"
[14:53] <vadi2> Yeah, I thought so when I didn't see the package in the list :x. But my friend switched to kubuntu and wants it
[14:53] <beachsurfin> ActionParsnip: no
[14:53] <mefisto__> xp-killer: ok, before installing, we will remove unneeded packages that were installed from all this mess: sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> vadi2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> beachsurfin: unplug it, wait, plug it back in, wait, run dmesg | tail
[14:54] <xp-killer> mefisto__: lol
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> sorset1: try rebooting
[14:54] <beachsurfin> ActionParsnip: 142527.724356] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
[14:54] <beachsurfin> a few of those messages
[14:54] <sorset1> ActionParsnip: i wan to try without reboot :(
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> sorset1: make sure your pwd is ~/
[14:55] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok
[14:55] <mefisto__> xp-killer: then we will update/upgrade everything you have installed: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:55] <beachsurfin> argh, i'll have to come back to this. i have to leave
[14:55] <vadi2> ActionParsnip: hm, which part of the guide is valid?
[14:55] <beachsurfin> later
[14:55] <vadi2> it says instructions and then later on says the ppa is offline
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> vadi2: add the repos then install the package
[14:55] <vadi2> which?
[14:56] <vadi2> kb9vqf?
[14:56] <mefisto__> xp-killer: now installing realplayer should work: sudo apt-get install realplayer
[14:56] <vadi2> because after it says "19-11-2008 Important! The KDE3 repositories are offline now."
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> vadi2: the top 3 boxes, except use kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> vadi2: usig sudo with gui apps is incorrect
[14:57] <vadi2> hm
[14:57] <vadi2> but http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6210362&postcount=107 says they asked him to pull them down
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> sorset1: if your device is correct and the mountpoint exists it should mount
[14:57] <vadi2> and, ah, never put anything up themselves
[14:58] <sorset1> ActionParsnip: i had gparted open
[14:58] <sorset1> but now i closed it
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> vadi2: you can always compile the kde3 source
[14:58] <sorset1> but i still have problem
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sorset1: d'oh
[14:58] <vadi2> ActionParsnip: :P I have a feeling my friend didn't switch from sidux for that
[14:58] <xp-killer> mefisto__: http://pastebin.ca/1331617
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sorset1: coud run: lsof /dev/<partition name>
[14:58] <pablo__> ActionParsnip: the nvidia panel popped up. now what?
[14:59] <vadi2> thanks for your help though
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> pablo__: ok did it show a little box saying you needed to run a command as root?
[14:59] <mefisto__> xp-killer: lol, I'm sorry
[14:59] <sorset1> ActionParsnip: it doesnt have output!
[14:59] <mefisto__> xp-killer: you have hardy, but there is no realplayer for hardy in medibuntu
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> sorset1: then it musnt be in use
[15:00] <xp-killer> crap
[15:00] <pablo__> ActionParsnip: yes. i entered my pass
[15:00] <mefisto__> xp-killer: but you got lots of practice with linux!
[15:00] <mefisto__> xp-killer: do you still have the .bin file?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> pablo__: ok close that
[15:00] <pablo__> ActionParsnip: ... ok
[15:01] <pablo__> ActionParsnip: now what?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> pablo__: run sudo xconfig-nvidia then restart x server
[15:01] <xp-killer> mefisto__: yea lol i had install it back in the day when i was on 7.04 that was the best time for me even when i use to do stuff and loose all my data i was like :O had to start back over but i got everything to work
[15:02] <pablo__> ActionParsnip: command not found
[15:02] <xp-killer> mefisto__: actualy i just want real player install cause i cant get tru to read my video format rmvb
[15:02] <vbgunz> I just migrated to a new pc. damn... I am trying to use screen + vim. I have no 256 colors in vim under screen. I've gone through this before and am going through my logs right now. if I simply launch vim, no 256 color support. If I launch it like this -> "vim -T xterm-256color" I do have 256 color support. whats wrong? sorry :(
[15:02] <sorset1> ActionParsnip: thank you
[15:02] <mefisto__> xp-killer: so the .bin file is still on your desktop?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> pablo__: can you give me the output of lsb_release -c
[15:03] <pablo__> ActionParsnip: intrepid
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> sorset1: better?
[15:03] <xp-killer> mefisto__: yea
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> pablo__: very strange
[15:03] <pablo__> ActionParsnip: indeed
[15:03] <mefisto__> xp-killer: cd ~/Desktop
[15:03] <sorset1> ActionParsnip: no, ill restart
[15:03] <sorset1> ActionParsnip: thx anyway
[15:04] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok
[15:04] <mefisto__> xp-killer: sudo ./Real  (then press tab key to complete the filename)
[15:04] <vbgunz> in screen its screen, in xterm its xterm-256color ... I tried placing both TERM=screen-256color  and TERM=xterm-256color in my .screenrc though :/
[15:04] <pablo__> ActionParsnip: so now what?
[15:04] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok
[15:04] <mefisto__> xp-killer: is the installer running now?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> pablo__: ou need to get that command going, i gotta split
[15:05] <__osh__> Anyone here experienced with plasmoids? I'm trying to follow this guide (http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/PythonPlasmoid) but my package won't install. Is there a log somewhere where I can see WHY the installation failed?
[15:05] <pablo__> how can i get xconfig-nvidia command working?
[15:05] <xp-killer> mefisto__: now yea
[15:06] <mefisto__> xp-killer: it should tell you it will install in /opt/Real/Realplayer or something like that
[15:06] <xp-killer> mefisto__: yea ,i have to choose a directory?
[15:06] <xp-killer> i
[15:07] <mefisto__> xp-killer: if you leave the default it should work
[15:08] <xp-killer> mefisto__: i run F to continue
[15:08] <mefisto__> xp-killer: yes, the F key
[15:08] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok complet
[15:08] <xp-killer> mefisto__: of so how do i run it now?
[15:09] <mefisto__> xp-killer: when it's done, try it from the menu, or type realplayer in konsole
[15:09] <mefisto__> xp-killer: no, not realplayer, realplay
[15:10] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok i install it its runing tanks
[15:11] <xp-killer> mefisto__: how do i get it in my Kmenu?
[15:11] <mefisto__> xp-killer: it's not in kmenu?
[15:12] <mefisto__> xp-killer: should be under multimedia
[15:12] <deathoncity> hi all i'm new in linux..i've just installed ubuntu on my hp m9390.it and i cannot find tv card
[15:12] <deathoncity> some help please?
[15:12] <xp-killer> no its not.
[15:12] <xp-killer> mefisto__:
[15:12] <sorset1> i cant execute kdebluetooth4 in kubuntu 8.10, why?
[15:13] <xp-killer> i had delete it with some edit tool
[15:13] <mefisto__> xp-killer: ok, open the K menu editor, and just click the save button, then look in kmenu again
[15:13] <deathoncity> it is a hauppauge dvb't card
[15:14] <deathoncity> how i install'it
[15:14] <xp-killer> mefisto__: its not there
[15:15] <deathoncity> please help i wanna trow vista and this is the only thing who stop me doing this!
[15:17] <mefisto__> xp-killer: kbuildsycoca --noincremental
[15:17] <kaddi> heya :) anyone familiar with running mathematica via ssh on a remote machine (both linux)?
[15:18] <kaddi> i'm getting the typical xset: bad font path element (error 23) message, but can't find the solution with google
[15:18] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ? thats for me?
[15:18] <mefisto__> xp-killer: yes, trying to get the kmenu to update
[15:19] <mefisto__> xp-killer: if it still is not in the kmenu after that, you can add it yourself
[15:19] <xp-killer> its not
[15:19] <xp-killer> how do i add it?
[15:20] <marco_> salve
[15:20] <mefisto__> xp-killer: in the menu editor, highlight the multimedia section and click the "new item" button
[15:21] <marco_> io devo scaricare una immagine pippo.jpg e voglio che si salvi sul pc con il nome "pippoTIMESTAMP.jpg"
[15:21] <mefisto__> xp-killer: for the name, put in: RealPlayer 11
[15:21] <marco_> in automatico
[15:21] <marco_> come faccio?
[15:21] <kaddi> !it |marco_
[15:22] <marco_> sorry
[15:22] <marco_> i have to download the file "http://..pippo.jpg"
[15:22] <marco_> as "pippoTIMESTAMP.jpg"
[15:23] <marco_> i can use cp, mv and wget
[15:24] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok i put the name and close all then i went in kMenu to run it nothing happen
[15:25] <mefisto__> xp-killer: no, we were not finished. open the k menu editor again, and highlight the Realplayer 11 we made
[15:25] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok
[15:26] <mefisto__> xp-killer: you can leave Description and Comment blank if you want
[15:26] <xp-killer> k
[15:26] <mefisto__> xp-killer: but the important part is Command. put in realplay
[15:26] <xp-killer> thats it?
[15:27] <mefisto__> xp-killer: and tick "Enable launch feedback" too
[15:27] <xp-killer> k
[15:27] <mefisto__> xp-killer: then save, and try from kmenu again
[15:27] <Spokesman> Hallo bin neu hier und muß mich erst mal durchklicken
[15:27] <mefisto__> xp-killer: you can also find an icon for the menu if you want
[15:27] <xp-killer> mefisto__: YEEEEES IT WORKS OUF
[15:28] <xp-killer> mefisto__: tanks a million
[15:28] <xp-killer> mefisto__:  plus real player readding my rmvb video files i was tinking of going back to xp to watch my stuff
[15:29] <unixdawg> ok kssh does not work with 4.x
[15:29] <mefisto__> xp-killer: and next time you ask for help here, make sure they understand you have kubuntu 8.04 hardy, not 8.10 intrepid
[15:29] <unixdawg> it gives off a error about T option
[15:29] <xp-killer> mefisto__: yea i choose the real play icon at the start
[15:30] <mefisto__> xp-killer: so the rmvb files play normally? sound works too?
[15:30] <xp-killer> mefisto__: then how do i upgrade?i clic on upgrade in adept but nothing happen im still in 8.04 :(
[15:31] <tester_> Riddell: hello :)
[15:31] <Riddell> hi tester_
[15:31] <Ghidorah> I am contemplating switching from ubuntu to kubuntu, and in the past I have heard of setting up a partition for software. If I were to do this, is it beneficial at all, or is it a matter of preference?
[15:32]  * ct529 do not understand Ghidorah's question
[15:32] <xp-killer> mefisto__: how long your using linux?
[15:32] <carpii> generally its a good idea to put /home on a new partition, so if your OS dies you havent lost all your settings and personal stuff
[15:32] <xp-killer> how u know all of theses stuff?
[15:33] <carpii> as for software, well its up to you. But everything can be gotten from the repositories again if needs be, so its less of an issue
[15:33] <mefisto__> xp-killer: about 3 years with kubuntu, before that I tried a few livecds but didn't install
[15:33] <Ghidorah> home is usually contained in the /root correct?
[15:33] <Ghidorah> ok, well thank you capri
[15:33] <carpii> its a directory in the root of the drive, yes
[15:33] <xp-killer> mefisto__: u lurn all of that in 3 years?
[15:33] <carpii> but not in /root, which is a seperate directory
[15:34] <mefisto__> Ghidorah: your home is in /home/user-name/ for each user
[15:34] <Ghidorah> ok, my mistake
[15:34] <xp-killer> mefisto__: u work for the linux guys or your just a guy home?
[15:34] <mefisto__> xp-killer: just a guy at home :)
[15:35] <mefisto__> xp-killer: I learn a lot in this channel with other people's problems
[15:35] <xp-killer> mefisto__: i have anoother thing to solve but i dont want to harace u uve already kill your time with me for a simple thing
[15:35] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok
[15:36] <Ghidorah> The harddrive on the machine is 120GB, I am going to set 2GB for RAM, 100MB for boot, so I have to split the remaining 117GB between /root, and /home. Is there a too small size for the /root/
[15:36] <mefisto__> xp-killer: just ask, someone else here might be able to help too
[15:37] <xp-killer> i want a server install on my kubuntu 8.04 so i can see and read from my visat laptop
[15:37] <xp-killer> and i want know how to do file shearing
[15:38] <xp-killer> linux <----> vista
[15:38] <mefisto__> xp-killer: to network with windows computers, we have samba
[15:38] <mefisto__> !samba
[15:41] <mefisto__> xp-killer: samba worked for me on hardy, with windows xp machines, but I never tried with vista
[15:41] <xp-killer> mefisto__: can i use just a server like that i can see everything insted of going tru all theses things?
[15:42] <xp-killer> mefisto__: something like a media player server
[15:43] <mefisto__> xp-killer: I don't know. don't understand "media player server"
[15:44] <cheku> hi
[15:45] <xp-killer> mefisto__: its something like twonkey media server u enter the ip in the adress then u can see
[15:46] <mefisto__> xp-killer: samba does that. why don't you try it? sudo apt-get install samba
[15:46] <xp-killer> mefisto__: ok
[15:48] <mefisto__> xp-killer: after install, go to systemsettings > sharing   and enable local network file sharing
[15:49] <cheku> hi
[15:50] <cheku> i'm using firefox right now, n the popun windows alwas come out , how to stop them?
[15:50] <cheku> i'm using firefox right now, n the popout windows alwas come out , how to stop them?
[15:50] <cheku> i'm using firefox right now, n the popupwindows alwas come out , how to stop them?
[15:52] <mefisto__> cheku: edit, preferences, content tab, block popup windows
[15:53] <cheku> thanks
[15:54] <cheku> one more, how to make the cube ?
[15:55] <mefisto__> cheku: using compiz? or kde 4?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> ctrl+F11
[15:58] <xp-killer> mefisto__: i enter the ip linux ask me if to leave the person conect i said yes now on the browser on vista it just have RFB 003.003
[15:58] <xp-killer> and a black page
[16:00] <eutychus> hello. i am trying to set up my computer to print to a network printer smb shared printer, but it doesnt show up when i look for it with dolfin. how do i set the printer up?
[16:00] <mefisto__> xp-killer: sorry I don't understand. have you shared any folders on kubuntu yet?
[16:01] <xp-killer> mefisto__: i add a folder to shear yes but this my 1st time trying to shear with another pc
[16:03] <mefisto__> xp-killer: and on the windows machine in Network Places (or whatever it's called in Vista), do you see the kubuntu machine?
[16:04] <cuznt> Random Fortune: ... of course, this probably only happens for tcsh which uses wait4(), which is why I never saw it. Serves people who use that abomination right 8^) 	-- Linus Torvalds, about a patch that fixes getrusage for 1.3.26
[16:06] <xp-killer> mefisto__: kubuntu machine on vista?where?
[16:07] <eutychus> can someone help me set up a printer?
[16:07] <cuznt> !printers
[16:07] <mefisto__> xp-killer: I don't know vista, but in xp I think it's called network places. probably in the menu, or go to My Computer and it should be there too
[16:17] <gorgonzola> join apache
[16:29] <giarca> Does anyone using new 64bit flash plugin? Any comments?
[16:35] <ct529> giarca: yes, I do .... it works really really well
[16:36] <giarca> performance? like 32bit?
[16:36] <ct529> eutychus: what is the problem?
[16:36] <ct529> giarca: how do you measure performances on a flash plugin exactly?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> giarca , with firefox ?
[16:37] <giarca> sorry ct529, the impression... more fluid or something like that
[16:37] <giarca> BluesKaj: I use firefox so yes! ;)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> giarca, http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/64-bit/flash64.shtml
[16:39] <ct529> giarca: it works great .... very fluid not hitches .... I actually cannot tell the difference in any way
[16:40] <giarca> ct529: ok! that it's I want know... no difference... good!
[16:40] <ct529> BluesKaj: giarca: these are the instructions to install 32bit on 64bit .... I use 64 bit native plugin
[16:41] <giarca> BluesKaj: I read the instruction
[16:41] <giarca> but i think i'm gonna do the installation of 64bit plugin by hand
[16:41] <giarca> removing 32bit plugin package
[16:43] <ct529> giarca: I think you can install it from from repository apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:44] <giarca> ct529: from that I emerge the 32bit plugin... not the last 64bit
[16:45] <giarca> with kubuntu 8.10 with official repositories
[16:48] <eutychus> is there a KUBUNTU guide (not ubuntu) to help walk someone through connecting to a network printer that is an a vista machine?
[16:48] <k4> !printers
[16:49] <eutychus> sigh
[16:49] <giarca> eutychus: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same
[16:49] <ct529> giarca: sorry I cannot find it anymore
[16:49] <k4> i never had problems with printers on ubuntu
[16:49] <cheku> how to join other channel
[16:49] <cheku> how to join other channel?
[16:49] <giarca> ct529: no problem, I download the package from adobe's site and link manually in my .mozilla home :D
[16:50] <k4> the cool thing was i installed a second ubuntu , and it found automaticaLLY the printers from the other ubuntu machine
[16:50] <giarca> cheku: /J #chan
[16:50] <k4> this was so great !
[16:51] <blafard> hello.  I want to play dvds using kaffeine.  I installed libdvdcss3, following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs  I still get the error message from kaffeine that i need to install libdvdcss ... My region is set; I'm sure I'm missing something easy.  Can anyone help me?
[16:51] <eutychus> no, they are not. there is not System ---> Administration --> Printing. and when i do find a print manager it isnt the same as what is in the instructions.
[16:51] <ct529> giarca: I know there is an automatic way .... but do not remember it anymore, sorry!
[16:52] <ct529> giarca: did you use that http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html?
[16:53] <ct529> !flash
[16:53] <giarca> ct529: really thank for your help but I prefer manual way
[16:53] <k4> !date
[16:53] <giarca> in that way I know where to go to turn back on the official 32
[16:53] <Mr_Grieves|> Hi, I'm trying to install 8.10 on a PC that shipped with Vista on NTFS, but the installer is unable to resize the partitions.
[16:54] <ct529> giarca: yes, me too ....
[16:54] <giarca> ct529: :D
[16:54] <Mr_Grieves|> Theres no info about the error in dmesg
[16:54] <Mr_Grieves|> All the pop up says is "Unable to resize partition"
[16:54] <Mr_Grieves|> Is this a known issue?
[16:55] <giarca> ct529: yes, your link is definetly the flash package I'm looking for
[16:55] <giarca> great!
[16:55] <giarca> now I'm gonna install by hand (when some download finsh) :P
[16:56] <ct529> giarca: :)
[16:56] <ct529> anyone who know how to generate screencasts  under kubuntu? what is the best package?
[16:57] <giarca> mmm I don't know... I'm  on kubuntu from a couple of days :P
[17:01] <eutychus> what is the name of the ubuntu printer control so i can dl it to follow the intstruction for connecting to a network printer?
[17:02] <mefisto__> ct529: you mean something to do video capture of the desktop?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> Mr_Grieves| , yes a dedicated partition editor like GParted is required to resize before using the live cd install
[17:03] <BluesKaj> !Gparted
[17:03] <ct529> mefisto__: yes
[17:04] <eutychus> does anyone realize that one cannot follow the ubuntu instruction in kubuntu in order to connect to a network printer that is attacked to a windows pc?
[17:05] <cuznt> i do
[17:05] <cuznt> cause i can not either
[17:05] <mefisto__> ct529: istanbul worked well for me, but not with sound. xvidcap is much more configureable, but the wrong combination of options always resulted in a crash for me
[17:06] <eli_> helli
[17:06] <eli_> any1 here?
[17:08] <Mr_Grieves|> BluesKaj: I seem to recall the LiveCD's resize operation working fine on another computer, but that was a FAT32 FS I think. So the installer just can't handle NTFS?
[17:08] <eutychus> can someone walk me thru this? i have a laptops and a pc running kubuntu that need to be connected to the network printer. the ubuntu instructions do not work for kubuntu.
[17:10] <ct529> mefisto__: thanks, I will give it a go .... I used recorddesktop in the past
[17:10] <ct529> eutychus: do you have cups installed?
[17:10] <eutychus> :( i dont know. i was hoping samba would find it.
[17:11] <eutychus> the comps are on a home network, and the printer is connected to a pc running vista.
[17:12] <eutychus> ct529: how do i determine if cups is running?
[17:12] <ct529> eutychus: localhost:631 in your browser
[17:13] <_SkiBum_> I seem to be having msn connection problems with kopete since I upgraded the kde 4.2 (running kubuntu).  When i first connect everything is ok, but then after a while I loose my connection.  Kopete still thinks I'm connected, but I go offline to my friends and I can no longer send messages until I set kopete offline, and then back to online
[17:13] <_SkiBum_> any ideas?
[17:14] <javi> HOLA
[17:14] <kaddi> !es |javi
[17:14] <kaddi> :)
[17:14]  * ct529 rebooting X
[17:15] <javi> NO SE COMO VA ESTO ALGUIEN ME PODRIA DECIR
[17:16] <eutychus> ct529:  thanx. i am at add a printer. this is where i stumble. what do i put in for name, location, and destcription, and why cant samba find the printer?
[17:16] <ct529> eutychus: so?
[17:17] <ct529> eutychus: by the way .... is it a hp printer?
[17:17] <eutychus> ct529: no, it is a dell all in one.
[17:17] <cuznt> !es
[17:18] <cuznt> oop s wrong winder. sorry
[17:18] <ct529> eutychus: ok
[17:18] <blafard> I want to play dvds using kaffeine.  I installed libdvdcss3, following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs  I still get the error message from kaffeine that i need to install libdvdcss ... My region is set; I'm sure I'm missing something easy.  Can anyone help me?
[17:18] <eutychus> ct529: when test ran ubuntu, there was no problem with samba finding the printer, and being able to start printing from it. kubuntu wants all this info, that i dont know.
[17:18] <kaddi> javi: entre "/join #kubuntu-es" sin los ""
[17:20] <eli_> hi
[17:20] <ct529> eutychus: I do not understand .... what di you exactly do in the live CD?
[17:21] <kaddi> !hi |eli_
[17:21] <eli_> tnx
[17:21] <eli_> i'm new to linux-and i managed to figure out most of the things but i have 1 question
[17:22] <eli_> ubuntu apperantly recognizes my printer, but when i print- the printer wont do it
[17:22] <eli_> i have Xerox PE220
[17:23] <eutychus> ct529: when i had ubuntu installed on this pc; whatever print manager that ubuntu used, it was able to connect to the network, find the printer that is connected to the pc with vista on it, and print... it just found the printer and started using it. when i try to set up connecting to the printer with kubuntu it asks for information about what the name of the printer, its location etc. i do not know these things.
[17:25] <neybar> I'm stuck in dependancy hell.  I was trying to update 8.10 with kde 4.2 and I can't seem to get libplasma3 to install cleanly.
[17:26] <eli_> its not a network printer
[17:26] <eli_> its connected via a USB port
[17:26] <ct529> eutychus: it should be exactly the same .... of course you have to have the appropriate software installed
[17:27] <eli_> i'll c what i can do
[17:27] <eli_> brb
[17:27] <eli_> tnx
[17:27] <eutychus> ct529: its different. i used samba to find out the name of hte printer, etc. this time samba cant find the printer.
[17:28] <ct529> eutychus: yes, my printing gui searches automatically the printers .... there has to be a problem with your installation
[17:28] <eutychus> ct529: ic
[17:30] <eutychus> ct529: :( this is sort of frustrating. what should i do?
[17:32] <syockit> neybar: what fails to remove?
[17:39] <neybar> syockit: it turns out it was a problem with the kde-icons-oxygen package.  I got it worked out.  Now I'm in kde4.2 and no apps will take keyboard input.
[17:40] <nico_> any italian?
[17:40] <neybar> I can crtl-alt-F1 out to a shell ok, but the gui doesn't seem to be accepting input.
[17:41] <eli_> back
[17:41] <nico_> there are any italians??
[17:41] <eli_> still the same
[17:41] <eli_> it wont print
[17:41] <eli_> i mean it would warm up, start making noises- but wont pull the paper
[17:41] <eli_> while it does it great on xp
[17:42] <eli_> i'm not italian but i speak spanish if it may help u nico
[17:42] <ct529> eutychus: do you have the system-config-print-kde package installed?
[17:42] <nico_> ok eli
[17:42] <eli_> nico, puedo ayudar te?
[17:42] <eli_> i'll check
[17:43] <nico_> can you teach me how can I use freevo?
[17:43] <eli_> no i dont have it installed
[17:44] <eli_> i'll install it now
[17:44] <nico_> freevo is a media center software for kubuntu
[17:44] <nico_> ok thanx
[17:44] <eli_> pero smplayer es mejor nico
[17:45] <nico_> but is it a kde software?
[17:45] <altrortla> !audio
[17:45] <eli_> k i installed the package
[17:46] <eli_> should i try the printing?
[17:46] <nico_> ok...I use kubuntu 8.10 but I'm a amateur user...
[17:47] <ct529> nico_: nope .... it is a python software
[17:47] <eli_> no it didnt work
[17:47] <ct529> nico_: sorry, python application
[17:47] <ct529> eli_: what is your problem?
[17:47] <eli_> my printer
[17:47] <eli_> ubuntu recognizes it
[17:48] <eli_> it starts warming up, but it wont pull the paper
[17:48] <eli_> and it prints perfectly on windoes
[17:48] <eli_> its a XEROX PE 220
[17:49] <nico_> when I downloaded freevo by Adept and then it installed in my SO I wanted to use it...but...when I launch it: NOTHING!!!
[17:49] <nico_> why?
[17:49] <eli_> from where did u download it?
[17:50] <quadaptor> i try to compile openssl to a non standard path, but have problems with the shared libs. openldap links to system zlib / libcrypto. please take a look to http://dpaste.com/118610/ for configure. any idea?
[17:51] <nico_> from adept
[17:52] <giarca> nico_: do you find what you are looking for with Adept? I have some problem in searching packet
[17:52] <ct529> I have to go!
[17:52] <giarca> ct529: bye!
[17:52] <ct529> have a good evening everybody!
[17:52] <eutychus> ct529: sorry i was reading some other stuff online
[17:53] <eutychus> ct529: sorry i was reading some other stuff online
[17:54] <hubar> giarca, dont use adept, it is aweful software.
[17:55] <hubar> giarca, I mean if you can not find stuff that you want.
[17:55] <hubar> if "search" seems broken for you.
[17:55] <giarca> hubar: exactly. In fact I'm using synaptic
[17:55] <garri> hi all
[17:55] <hubar> yeah.
[17:55] <giarca> adpet don't find what I search (most of the times)
[17:56] <hubar> adept is slow and broken
[17:56] <hubar> I couldn't find kdeplasma-addon from it.
[17:56] <giarca> and you can with all other tool I guess
[17:56] <hubar> for some strange reason that I couldn't bother to investigate.
[17:56] <garri> is anyone in here good with sound issues? i have been googling but don't seem to find the solution that works
[17:57] <downhill_> never buy a linksys WRT54g, regardless of what anybody ever tells you (that's positive)
[17:57] <downhill_> ever.
[17:57] <giarca> garri: it depends, I solved today skype input sound problem I had
[17:57] <eutychus> how do i nstal the system-config-print-kde package?
[17:57] <giarca> but I can't go too far from that
[17:57] <giarca> :)
[17:57] <hubar> garri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound
[17:57] <garri> hehe...my sound doesn't work at all  :(
[17:58] <hubar> !audio
[17:58] <hubar> !mp3
[17:58] <downhill_> hubar: the qt3 version of adept is fine. if you're having problems it's on your box specifically.
[17:58] <altrortla> I have teh same trouble .... Speaching on my mic i can hear audio on my speakers... But ekiga can't relieve the sound...
[17:58] <downhill_> garri: no sound on the system what so ever?
[17:59] <nico_> ok...
[17:59] <garri> nope...was fine until i rebooted the computer
[17:59] <downhill_> what sound card do you have?
[17:59] <garri> then the sound went away
[17:59] <nico_> i uninstalled freevo and i installed elisa
[17:59] <garri> uuu wait...i'll go check  :D
[17:59] <nico_> perfect
[17:59] <nico_> bye bye and thanx
[18:00] <giarca> garri: if there was and after a reboot gone I think can be probably a module problem
[18:00] <downhill_> well yeah
[18:00] <giarca> or something else, loaded first and not loaded now
[18:00] <downhill_> how about he just gives us some info first, eh?
[18:00] <eutychus> what is the apt get command if i want do install the system-config-print-kde package?
[18:00] <garri> giarca...well, sounds good so far...what can we do to fix it?
[18:00] <giarca> garri: lsmod print your sound card?
[18:01] <downhill_> eutychus: man apt-get
[18:01] <eutychus> thanx.
[18:01] <downhill_> garri: what do you have?
[18:02] <hubar> eutychus, apt-get install system-config-print-kde ?
[18:02] <downhill_> 'cuz the X-Fi driver likes to die on boot sometimes. if you turn off usplash and "quiet" you can see a backtrace during the part where the kernel loads drivers
[18:02] <downhill_> (or even without turning off quiet, if you like...)
[18:03] <garri> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)   <--- will this help?
[18:03] <garri> i'm a bloody newbie  sorry about that
[18:03] <downhill_> it's fine, man. commands are for sysadmins anyway :p
[18:04] <downhill_> can't expect grandma to lspci | grep Audio :p
[18:04] <garri> hehehe
[18:04] <eutychus> hubar: i am having printer connecting problems. ct529 asked if i had system-config-print-kde installed, because kubuntu cant find the printer that is on the home network.
[18:04] <downhill_> anywho, uh what's the name of the module for the HD architecture... I can't remember off the top of my head >.< snd_hd? int_snd_hd? something...
[18:04] <giarca> garri, on lsmod are loaded the module of ICH8?
[18:05] <eutychus> hubar: but ct529 had to leave, and i dont know what to do.
[18:05] <garri> gairca, i don't know what that means....sooowwy
[18:06] <downhill_> garri: punch in "lsmod" and look for ich8
[18:06] <giarca> lsmod is a command like lspci
[18:06] <downhill_> and lsusb, and...
[18:06] <giarca> lspci = list pci slot -- lsmod = lost module loaded
[18:06] <giarca> *list
[18:06] <syockit> don't forget lsusb too
[18:06] <giarca> downhill_: exactly :P
[18:07] <downhill_> pci devices, not slots :p
[18:07] <giarca> LOL, I have really bad english... :P
[18:07] <downhill_> it's cool
[18:07] <giarca> :) thanks
[18:08] <garri> when I typed in lsmod I didn't find ICH8
[18:08] <downhill_> ah! snd_hda_intel, that's what I was looking for
[18:08] <downhill_> garri: how about snd_hda_intel?
[18:08] <hubar> eutychus, sorry can not help you. :( I hate the whole printing thing in Linux.
[18:08] <giarca> yes, snd_hda_intel
[18:09] <garri> bash: snd_hda_intel: command not found
[18:09] <giarca> nono
[18:09] <downhill_> garri: in the list, not a command ;)
[18:09] <garri> lol   ok ok
[18:09] <giarca> lsmod |grep snd_hda_intel
[18:09] <giarca> LOL
[18:09] <downhill_> giarca: you didn't know any better at one point yourself ;)
[18:09]  * downhill_ either
[18:10] <giarca> :P
[18:10] <garri> snd_hda_intel         344856  5
[18:11] <downhill_> alright, try: rmmod snd_hda_intel
[18:11] <garri> what does that mean?
[18:11] <downhill_> it means it's loaded
[18:11] <eutychus> hubar: its okay. i am beginning to hate it myself. :)
[18:11] <garri> ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[18:12] <downhill_> garri: can you paste the output of the following command to http://slexy.org and give us the resulting URL please so we can see?: lsof /dev/snd/*; lsof /dev/dsp*
[18:13] <downhill_> if you type "man lsof" it'll explain what the command is and how to use it, though you don't need any special arguments or switches to use it this way ;)
[18:13] <eutychus> bbl. trying to get the printer to work.
[18:14] <downhill_> giarca: have fun, I gotta run. g/l garri!
[18:14] <garri> http://slexy.org/view/s2tbFFlTHa
[18:14] <downhill_> giarca: try killing the processes using the card, rmmod'ing it then modprobe'ing it to see if it'll work or if he gets any errors ;)
[18:15] <downhill_> garri: can you hear sound out of amarok?
[18:15] <giarca> downhill_: ok, I try to follow your line
[18:15] <downhill_> giarca: easy way to get a definitive error if it gives one ;)
[18:15] <vbgunz> how do I find out what Qt lib I have? 4.4 or 4.5, etc?
[18:15] <downhill_> oh oh oh oh
[18:15] <giarca> ok, I go careful
[18:15] <giarca> :)
[18:15] <garri> holy cow!! the sound came....what happened?
[18:16] <downhill_> oh, nevermind.
[18:16] <giarca> garri: magic
[18:16] <downhill_> garri: could you open up amarok's properties and check "Engine"... does it say autodetect?
[18:16] <downhill_> settings > configure amarok > engine > right pane
[18:16] <garri> which command worked...cause just before you asked if i heard any sound from amarok, two minutes or so before i have closed it
[18:17] <downhill_> garri: ^
[18:17] <downhill_> it might be falling back to OSS, which is a totally different story
[18:17] <giarca> garri, re-do the command downhill_ gave to you and repaste
[18:17] <downhill_> ja that'll also tell
[18:17] <giarca> i want to see what change
[18:18] <garri> yes, autodetect
[18:18] <downhill_> ok can do re-do the lsof commands and paste the output of both to slexy.org again? let's see what it's using for sure
[18:20] <mefisto__> more than one soundcard?
[18:20] <giarca> have to go
[18:20] <giarca> bye all
[18:20] <downhill_> me too >.<
[18:20] <downhill_> see you giarca thnx for the help ^_
[18:20] <downhill_> ^_^
[18:20] <lucas_> hola
[18:20] <umbrart> hello, I have this little problem I probably brought upon myself
[18:21] <giarca> downhill_: you've done all the work :P
[18:21] <lucas_> como puedo cambiar de apodo en konversation
[18:21] <giarca> bye!
[18:21] <downhill_> take care
[18:21] <garri> http://slexy.org/view/s2IRrcLdLA
[18:21] <umbrart> I tried to install libv4l (for making a webcam work) and I probably did something wrong
[18:21] <garri> this list is huge
[18:21] <downhill_> whoa, garri, the one up there^ lol "lsof /dev/snd/*; lsof /dev/dsp*"
[18:21] <the1beast1within> is sombody german here?
[18:22] <garri> giarca...thanx for the help if you are going!  :D
[18:22] <downhill_> garri: it's showing every single file in use on your system right now haha
[18:22] <umbrart> result: whatever command I do in the console now gives me the error: "error while loading shared libraries: libv4l1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[18:22] <garri> hahaha
[18:22] <downhill_> garri: line 657: amarokapp 23297      garri   24w      CHR      14,19               13399 /dev/dsp1
[18:22] <downhill_> it's using OSS, which isn't good.
[18:22] <umbrart> luckyly, using sudo still works
[18:22] <the1beast1within> is somebody germen here?
[18:23] <the1beast1within> *german
[18:23] <garri> http://slexy.org/view/s2VoXm9Dk1
[18:23] <umbrart> has any-one any idea how I can either clear those shared libraries, or make em accesible to others than su?
[18:24] <garri> okay...so i'm using oss...how do we change that?
[18:24] <the1beast1within> can someone anwer me a question?
[18:24] <downhill_> garri: ok, that's easier to read ;) the top set (/dev/snd/*) represents all your ALSA-driven sound connections from applications. kmix and (for some reason) kpdf are both talking to your ALSA drivers. amarok is using /dev/dsp, which is the OSS device. OSS can only do 1 sound at a time, so right now nothing else can play sound on your system
[18:25] <garri> hmm...interesting
[18:25] <downhill_> yeah so what we want to do is figure out exactly why it's not working. you already showd your ALSA driver is loaded (which doesn't mean a whole lot honestly)
[18:25] <mefisto__> sudo alsa force-reload   will restart alsa and kill any apps using it
[18:26] <downhill_> in kmix can you "unhide" all the options? settings > Configure channels
[18:26] <garri> and i'm able to play music!! which is a lot  :D
[18:26] <downhill_> eh yeah but maybe it's not configured right, mefisto__ :)
[18:26] <downhill_> if the driver is loaded, perhaps something is blocking sound output, like those stupid IEC958 checkboxes
[18:27] <garri> i have configure shortcuts, global shortcuts and configure kmix
[18:28] <downhill_> hmmm... do you have the corect device selected (tabs)? :)
[18:28] <downhill_> side note: this is what a properly working output would look like: http://slexy.org/view/s20iWguGvj <---everything is using /dev/snd/*
[18:29] <garri> what is the correct device selected...the tabs? how do i figgurat one out?
[18:30] <downhill_> uh it should say like HDA Intel Corporation 82801H or something
[18:30] <Mamarok> !openoffice
[18:31] <Mamarok> hm, are there packages available for OOo3 for Intrepid
[18:31] <garri> ooh yeah...it says HDA Intel... then I can click on CA0106
[18:31] <downhill_> garri: that's it.
[18:31] <garri> should I switch?
[18:32] <sep1318> Mamarok: there should be, I don't remember in which PPA/repo they're in atm though.
[18:32] <garri> to CA0106?
[18:32] <mefisto__> Mamarok: I just did it. hang on
[18:32] <mefisto__> Mamarok: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[18:33] <Mamarok> mefisto__: freat, thx :)
[18:33] <downhill_> garri: uh, I'm not sure. never had your card. do you have 2 sound cards? O_o
[18:33] <sep1318> is there a way to get 4.2 w/o using the entire experimental PPA?
[18:33] <garri> yeah...one that's built in the motherboard and another one that's a little better i hope
[18:33] <downhill_> oh!
[18:34] <martijn81> how to find out whether i have i386 or amd64 installed?
[18:34] <downhill_> welllll that's a whole different story. what a waste of time this has been :p
[18:34] <garri> i have soundblaster system
[18:34] <downhill_> what model? j/w
[18:34] <garri> no no no!! i am playing music as we speak!!
[18:34] <garri> :D
[18:34] <downhill_> no, you're using OSS, which has not fixed any problem at all.
[18:35] <garri> bloody crap i don't recall...this is creative soundblaster 5.1 or something
[18:35] <downhill_> oh wait, CAO106... you. yeah
[18:35] <downhill_> it's an Audigy 1 or so
[18:35] <garri> yeah it rings a bell
[18:35] <sep1318> martijn81: does your computer case have any badges on it? metaly advertising that mentions intel or amd in any way?
[18:36] <downhill_> anywho, what you really want to do is set your default soundcard by using "asoundconf" -- first do "asoundconf list" to see the list of sound cards
[18:36] <ubunturos> is there #ubuntu-uk? (or kubuntu-uk, perhaps?)
[18:36] <martijn81> sep1318: well, i have an intel core duo 2
[18:36] <garri> it says Intel and CA0106
[18:36] <umbrart> no need to answer me anymore, another channel (#ubuntu-nl) solved this for me
[18:36] <mefisto__> downhill_: that method doesn't work for everything, but it should work for amarok, etc
[18:36] <downhill_> garri: ok, then asoundconf set-default-card CAO106
[18:37] <downhill_> mefisto__: OSS should just die already
[18:37] <downhill_> or you mean the default sound card?
[18:37] <downhill_> works for anything before KDE4 :p
[18:37] <mefisto__> downhill_: yeah, setting the default that way doesn't work for every app
[18:37] <sep1318> martijn81: ok, so can you restate your question? do you want to know what version of kubuntu you have installed, or which to install, or what?
[18:37] <downhill_> no, but it *does* fix a lot of apps
[18:37] <garri> i did that but i don't notice any changes
[18:38] <martijn81> sep1318: which one i have installed currently
[18:38] <downhill_> garri: you need to stop playing music in amarok for one ;) to *accurately* test, you might want to change amarok to use alsa only by going into that "Engine" config screen again and selecting it in place of "autodetect"
[18:38] <downhill_> (was that clear? sorry...)
[18:38] <mefisto__> downhill_: setting an index number in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base is THE way to set default soundcards
[18:38] <downhill_> mefisto__: too confusing...
[18:39] <downhill_> mefisto__: fixing the goddamn problem upstream is THE way to fix sound problems :p
[18:39] <garri> should i quit kmix as well?
[18:39] <downhill_> nah, it's cool
[18:40] <garri> when i open the kmix again, it still says HDA Intel
[18:40] <sep1318> martijn81: i don't know off the top of my head, but i'll poke around a bit on the interwebs.
[18:41] <downhill_> garri: it'll always say that as long as it's enabled and the driver is loaded :p
[18:41] <garri> ahh okay...so what do we do next?
[18:42] <downhill_> test it
[18:42] <downhill_> see if amarok will play using ALSA
[18:42] <garri> i did the asoundconf set-default-card CAO106 command again but i again don't see any diffirence
[18:42] <garri> how do i do that? open amarok and then what?
[18:42] <downhill_> did you open amarok up, stop the music and change the sound method?
[18:43] <sep1318> martijn81: try "uname -a" and see what it gives you.
[18:43] <downhill_> settings > configure amarok > engine > right pane where it says "autodetect" change it to "alsa"
[18:44] <martijn81> sep1318: Linux jupiter-laptop 2.6.28-6-generic #17-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 30 15:34:36 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:44] <garri> xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[18:44] <downhill_> baaah
[18:44] <garri> lol
[18:45] <mefisto__> try closing amarok, then restart it and make those changes
[18:46] <garri> by restarting it you mean quit the program or restart the whole computer?
[18:46] <downhill_> amarok alone
[18:46] <mefisto__> no, just amarok
[18:46] <garri> same error message
[18:47] <downhill_> interesting
[18:47] <garri> isn't it?  :D
[18:47] <downhill_> can you show us the output of lsof /dev/dsp
[18:48] <garri> nothing happened in the shell
[18:48] <downhill_> ok so nothing is using /dev/dsp then
[18:48] <downhill_> errr
[18:48] <solifugus> installed kubuntu 8.10 and the default vi has no syntax highlighting or anything but basic editing
[18:49] <solifugus> I looked in adapt and all it shows to install is, gvim.
[18:49] <downhill_> the little asterisk at the end is extremely important. lsof /dev/dsp*
[18:49] <sep1318> martijn81: not quite ure what kind of answer that gave us, just if you're running things on intel chips, or that you're using the x86 version.
[18:50] <martijn81> sep1318: yeah i found out
[18:50] <garri> same, nothing happened...
[18:50] <sep1318> martijn81: cool.
[18:51] <solifugus> How can I uninstall vim-tiny so I can install vim-full ??  (using apt-get)
[18:51] <downhill_> ok cool, but why isn't ALSA working? :D
[18:51] <mefisto__> martijn81: you're running 32 bit, if that was your question
[18:51] <ali__> Hi everyone
[18:51] <ali__> I have got a 11 ISO files
[18:51] <martijn81> mefisto__: ỳeah that was my question
[18:51] <martijn81> thanks
[18:51] <ali__> and I want to mount it on my Kubuntu ... how to do so
[18:51] <ali__> when i used windows , i used to do it using deamon tools
[18:52] <ali__> but in kubuntu how to do it
[18:52] <ali__> anyone here
[18:53] <bazhang> !iso
[18:53] <solifugus> I got it.. apt-get remove vim-tiny && apt-get install vim-full
[18:53] <garri> well downhill, this time the chicken is asking the egg  :P
[18:54] <rts> hello all
[18:55] <kaddi> hello rts :)
[18:55] <downhill_> any ideas mefisto__?
[18:55] <ali__> anyone herellllllll............
[18:55] <downhill_> ali__: nope
[18:56] <rts> not here either!
[18:56] <rts> anyone familiar with setting custom serial baud rates?
[18:56] <rts> :-D
[18:56] <uman_> Hi guys. My mobo got fried so i transferred my hdds to another pc. (my old pc had an nvidia gfx card with nvidia dfrivers, this new pc only has onboard graphics from ATI, with ati drivers now) Unfortunately this new box with ubuntu 8.10 does not receognize my usb cable modem.. it does not even show if i use the lsusb command. What could the problem be, are there any usb drivers i can uninstall/reinstall/install or go down to another kernel. Ps, other usb
[18:56] <uman_> [13:54] <uman_> devices (mouse, flash drives, ipod) work fine.. Thanks. Im really lost here . Also, i get an error with the network interface eth2 which used to be my cablemodem, it says SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device when i click a network icon on the taskbar. thanks
[18:56] <mefisto__> garri: cat /proc/asound/modules       should show you 2 lines, with 0  youraudigy card  and   1  snd_hta_intel
[18:57] <rts> uman:  nothing in dmesg either?  and..  you know the device is ok?
[18:58] <Xand3r> hey ho
[18:58] <garri> 0 snd_hda_intel
[18:58] <garri> 1 snd_ca0106
[18:58] <Xand3r> how kan i programming VirsualBasic on Kubuntu?
[18:58] <mefisto__> garri: ok, we can try another way to set default sound cards if you want
[18:59] <downhill_> Xand3r: by learning a real programming language
[18:59] <rts> Xand3r:  sigh......
[18:59] <downhill_> Xand3r: visual basic is a Windows thing :p
[18:59] <Xand3r> downhill_: i know that
[18:59] <uman_> rts dont know how to use dmesg.. could you help me please. yes, i know the device is fine, it still works on another pc
[18:59] <garri> mefiesto...if that will fix the issue then sure thing  :D
[18:59] <rts> hmm  wonder if you can wine VB
[18:59] <Xand3r> and i realy hate it
[18:59] <rts> hehe
[18:59] <mefisto__> garri: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[19:00] <Xand3r> but my school want it
[19:00] <downhill_> Xand3r: use a virtual machine?
[19:00] <mega> hi all... im having a problem with nvidia driver on kubuntu 8.10.. my gpu is geforce 7050 pv / nforce 630a .. any pointers .. i read through 50 links but none of them work
[19:01] <mega> sorry the problem is that im stuck at 640x480
[19:01] <Xand3r> downhill_: a solution, but i tought there could be som nativ stuff, thx
[19:01] <mefisto__> garri: and at the end of that file, add this (on a line on its own)     options snd_ca0106 index=0
[19:01] <downhill_> Xand3r: sorry bud
[19:01] <rts> Xand3r:  looks like you may be able to install VB2005 express using wine
[19:01] <Xand3r> ok thx
[19:01] <uman_> rts?
[19:01] <Xand3r> thx rts
[19:01] <downhill_> i'd consider schoolwork mission critical, and therefor put wine out of the scope :p
[19:02] <mefisto__> garri: and under that line, another one with:     options snd_hda_intel index=1
[19:02] <rts> sorry, bad name eh
[19:02] <downhill_> garri: I gotta take off (like a half hour ago), mefisto__ is giving good advice tho ;)
[19:02] <downhill_> good luck!
[19:02] <rts> Xand3r:  good luck
[19:02] <garri> okay thanks downhill
[19:02] <Xand3r> thx thx
[19:02] <Xand3r> c ya
[19:03] <garri> uhm...how can i write those lines...i can't wri on the shell
[19:03] <downhill_> garri: if all else fails, you might want to try disabling your onboard sound via BIOS (but try mefisto__'s advice first ;)
[19:03] <garri> all right...thanks downhill  :D
[19:03] <uman1> rts im uman1 now
[19:03] <mefisto__> garri: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base          or if you want to use kate, kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[19:05] <rts> hey uman1:::
[19:05] <rts> uman1:  maybe you can get some hints with "dmesg | grep usb"
[19:05] <garri> wow i think i lost you...
[19:06] <uman1> rts, yeah, im looking at it... there are some errors there but nothing about a motorola cable modem...
[19:06] <rts> uman1:  others much more knowledgeable than me might find those entries interesting
[19:07] <rts> uman1:  but maybe you can narrow down what port its on, and see what it thinks is there
[19:08] <mefisto__> garri: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116157/  maybe it's easier to follow that way?
[19:08] <rts> uman1:  I gotta run, sorry,  hope you can get to the bottom of it
[19:10] <ali__> cant mount an ISO file using command line
[19:10] <ali__> can anyone tell me  how to do it
[19:10] <Pici> !iso
[19:10] <mefisto__> ali__: you need to make a mountpoint first (a folder where the files will appear)
[19:12] <ali__> I have got file located it       /home/ali/Documents/Work/Linux CBT
[19:12] <ali__> and the file name is linuxcbt-rh9-classic-01.iso
[19:12] <ali__> what will be the exact command to mount this ... file....... i used to do in windows using DEAMON TOOLS
[19:12] <ali__> okey how to make mountpoint.........
[19:12] <ali__> just creat a new folder ? right click , Create new....
[19:12] <mefisto__> ali__: sudo mkdir /media/linuxCBT   will make a folder in /media
[19:13] <garri> mefisto...the problem that i have is as follows...the shell lists up a lot of information... i don't have the garri@silence thingy that is usually...so i don't know exacly where to type these commands
[19:13] <mefisto__> garri: are you in nano now?
[19:14] <garri> the shell or terminal or what ever you call it  :P  i'm a complete newbie
[19:14] <mefisto__> garri: does it say GNU nano in top-left corner?
[19:15] <garri> yes, GNU nano 2.0.7
[19:15] <mefisto__> garri: and the file (at the top) says /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base  ?
[19:15] <clara> #valencia
[19:18] <ali_> need urgent help
[19:18] <ali_> I have run the command sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:18] <ali_> and it took quite a time downloading stuff...
[19:18] <ali_> now when i write sudo apt-get install kde-nightly  to update rom KDe 3.5 to 4.2 it says E: Couldn't find package kde-nightly
[19:19] <RurouniJones> Howdy all, anyone know how I can get multiple KDE logins running at the same time? Like how at the moment you can use CTRL+ALT+F6 which switches your to a command prompt, how can I make that another KDE instance? (For example, to run a wine game which doesn't like being minimiseD)
[19:19] <garri> mefisto, i don't know, really...here is what it says ...   http://slexy.org/view/s20sQiuR1r
[19:21] <mefisto__> garri: that looks like the right file. it should tell you at the top, after GNU nano 2.0.7, which file you are editing (should be /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base)
[19:22] <garri> yes...sorry, i saw what you ment....  hahaha...i'm a complete idiot
[19:22] <mefisto__> garri: scroll to the end of that file with PageDown or the down arrow and add the last 2 lines here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116157/
[19:23] <edgy> Hi, any one manage to configure dIMAP with google? I did but each time I delete a message from my inbox it's retrieved again!
[19:24] <garri> okay, i have done that...what now? when i press enter the line just goes down (the blinking part) but nothing happens that I can tell
[19:26] <mefisto__> garri: the stuff at the very bottom of that window tells you the keyboard commands. ^X will exit, but will ask you first if you want to save the changes. answer yes, and let it save to the same filename (/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base)
[19:27] <mefisto__> garri: ^X means ctrl+X  sorry
[19:27] <venik212> I cannot find JRE for kubuntu 64 bits
[19:28] <venik212> also, when I reboot, the machine is often stuck in "Opening bluetooth"...  and cannot continue
[19:28] <garri> http://slexy.org/view/s200klSssm  which one should i select?
[19:28] <garri> so many options!!
[19:29] <venik212> HP Pavillion desktop, Kubuntu 8.10, kde 4.1.2
[19:29] <garri> to files or dos format?
[19:29] <garri> or anything else?
[19:29] <mefisto__> garri: just enter, and it will save to that filename    File Name to Write: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[19:30] <garri> okay...done  :D
[19:30] <garri> what next?
[19:31] <ali_> cant i install KDE 4.2 on Kubuntu 8.04 ?
[19:31] <mefisto__> garri: ok, the easiest way is to just reboot, but if you don't want to right now for some reason, there are commands we can try. it's up to you
[19:31] <clara> #terra
[19:32] <garri> okay, i'll try rebooting... anything special i should check right after i get back ?
[19:32] <garri> i'll just come back on here  :D
[19:32] <hans> how can i install all the packages that will be installed when an upgrade from 4.1 to kde 4.2 is done?
[19:33] <mefisto__> garri: well you should have the audigy card set as the first (default) soundcard so sound will hopefully work normally on every boot from now on
[19:33] <garri> where do i do that?  sorry i know i'm annoying  :P
[19:33] <hans> i had problems when i have done the upgrade.. -> unsolved dependencies. and now i had to install kde-window-manager manually.
[19:34] <garri> in Kmix or amarok?
[19:34] <hans> Other packages also seem to be not installed when i have done that upgrade.. for example the note-plasmoid doesn work
[19:35] <mefisto__> garri: cat /proc/asound/modules  should show you the reverse of what it did the first time. that is, 0 should be snd_ca0106   and 1 should be snd_hda_intel
[19:35] <garri> 0 snd_hda_intel
[19:35] <garri> 1 snd_ca0106
[19:35] <garri> hmm?
[19:35] <mefisto__> garri: yep, after reboot, hopefully they will be the other way around
[19:36] <garri> ahh okay...let's find out  :D
[19:37] <mefisto__> ali_: what do you have now? 8.04 hardy, or 8.10 intrepid?
[19:37] <venik212> am I the only one with this "starting bluetooth" bug?
[19:37] <venik212> (64 bit Kubuntu 8.10)
[19:40] <garri> wow...sound worked on reboot!!!
[19:40] <mefisto__> venik212: is there any bluetooth hardware you can disable in bios? if you don't need bluetooth, that is
[19:40] <garri> what was the command line again?
[19:40] <mefisto__> garri: cat /proc/asound/modules
[19:40] <garri> YES!!!!
[19:40] <venik212> I do not need bluetooth, but I believe that some USB stuff works with the bluetooth software, and USB I do need
[19:41] <garri> you my friend, is a genius
[19:41] <hans> how can i install all the packages that will be installed when an upgrade from 4.1 to kde 4.2 is done?
[19:41] <mefisto__> garri: ideally kubuntu would have a simple gui with something like a drop-down menu to choose your preferred soundcard
[19:42] <mefisto__> garri: tried amarok yet?
[19:42] <garri> hehe...well, kubuntu doesn't have a bunch of programmers working 8 hour shifts on payroll
[19:43] <garri> hmm...now amarok doesn't play sound
[19:44] <mefisto__> garri: look in amarok config, engine. set it to alsa and try again
[19:45] <garri> xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[19:46] <mefisto__> garri: you get that message when you change to alsa, or when you try to play?
[19:47] <garri> when i click apply
[19:47] <garri> also when i click on play
[19:50] <venik212> any ideas regarding my bluetooth issue?  I think this was a known bug years ago, but it is very much alive in my machine
[19:52] <mefisto__> garri: does this return anything: ls .xine
[19:52] <garri> catalog.cache  config
[19:53] <mefisto__> garri: mv .xine/config .xine/config.backup
[19:54] <garri> nothing
[19:54] <mefisto__> garri: then close amarok (right-click the icon in the taskbar) and start it again, try to change engine to alsa
[19:55] <garri> it started on alsa and the se error message
[19:55] <garri> se=same
[19:55] <BorkisDrizzt> now this was more like it
[19:55] <BorkisDrizzt> why is there only 9 people in #ubuntu?
[19:57] <mefisto__> garri: in the engine settings, are you able to edit ALSA Device Configuration, or is it greyed out?
[19:58] <garri> i can edit it
[19:59] <mefisto__> garri: does it say default for mono and stereo?
[19:59] <garri> yes
[19:59] <pars> yardıma ihtiyacım var arkadaşlar yardım edebilirmisiniz?
[20:02] <mefisto__> garri: ok close amarok completely and we can try reinstalling the xine engine for amarok
[20:03] <garri> okay  :D
[20:03] <mefisto__> garri: do you have intrepid 8.10 ?
[20:03] <garri> what's that?
[20:03] <garri> :P
[20:04] <garri> how do i find that out?
[20:04] <mefisto__> garri: the version of kubuntu you have installed. to find out: lsb_release -a
[20:04] <garri> 8.04.1
[20:05] <mefisto__> garri: ok, type this: sudo apt-get purge --reinstall amarok-xine
[20:07] <garri> Removing amarok-xine ...
[20:07] <garri> garri@silence:~$
[20:07] <mefisto__> garri:
[20:07] <garri> yes :D
[20:07] <mefisto__> garri: didn't reinstall it?
[20:07] <garri> seems not like it  ??
[20:07] <mefisto__> garri: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[20:09] <garri> okay, seems it's reinstalled
[20:09] <mefisto__> garri: ok give it a try. hopefully you can use alsa now
[20:09] <garri> same error message  :P
[20:10] <garri> bloody hell...
[20:11] <mefisto__> garri: have you added the medibuntu repository?
[20:11] <garri> i don't even know what that is...
[20:12] <mefisto__> garri: I guess not then :) we could try that. it has a newer version of amarok-xine than the official ubuntu repository which is what you have now
[20:13] <garri> okay  :D
[20:14] <mefisto__> garri: go to http://www.medibuntu.org/ and click the "repository howto" link. follow the instructions for Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
[20:17] <kaddi> somehow i got all my widgets centered in the middle of my desktop. how can i get back to being able to place the widgets where i want them to be
[20:18] <garri> http://slexy.org/view/s21qSERIGE
[20:18] <garri> i have some bash message issue....
[20:19] <mefisto__> garri: all in one go: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[20:20] <garri> okay
[20:21] <garri> 20:20:46 (43.74 MB/s) - `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list' saved [226/226]
[20:21] <mefisto__> garri: and the gpg key (the command after those medibuntu.list ones)
[20:21] <mefisto__> garri: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[20:24] <garri> http://slexy.org/view/s20vrdrgxV  some failed messages...
[20:24] <steven__> Hello I need help getting my webcam is is a logitech and it only works with cheese and will not broadcast
[20:25] <mefisto__> garri: sudo apt-get -y install medibuntu-keyring
[20:26] <anger> hi all!
[20:27] <garri> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[20:27] <kaddi> hi anger :)
[20:27] <garri> medibuntu-keyring
[20:27] <garri> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[20:27] <mefisto__> garri: ok, lets leave out the -y
[20:27] <mefisto__> garri: sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[20:27] <anger> can you suggest me a software for creating dvds from dv-videos?
[20:28] <mefisto__> garri: and answer yes if it asks do you want to download/install
[20:29] <garri> hehehe...the last message in the shell was OK, si i think that one worked out just fine :)
[20:29] <anger> I'd just need to create a simple dvd-menu and convert dv-videos imported from my videocamera to dvd format
[20:30] <mefisto__> garri: you seem to also still have the kubuntu cdrom as a source. that should have been disabled after you installed
[20:30] <garri> really? weird...
[20:31] <garri> i don't have the cd in the rom anymore
[20:31] <mefisto__> garri: W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386... you can ignore the error, or you can edit a file to stop the message appearing
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> anger: devede
[20:32] <garri> i'd like to edit a file to stop the message appaering
[20:32] <garri> but finnishing the sound first  ;)
[20:32] <mefisto__> garri: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:33] <garri> okay what now?
[20:34] <kaddi> how much hassle is it to create your own plasma theme and where would i start, if I wanted to do this? :p
[20:34] <mefisto__> garri: put a # in front of the line that starts "deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.04  ... etc
[20:35] <garri> okay
[20:35] <pyrimid> hey all, don't know if this has been addressed before, but I've seen a lot of people having the same problem updating to kde 4.2 from 4.1.5 when aptitude tries to install the window manager before plasma3 and subsequently cancels the update with a broken window manager
[20:35] <pyrimid> so when they log in to a new session the task manager won't work and the windows are all fullscreen
[20:35] <garri> do i then do ctrl save?
[20:36] <pyrimid> I wonder if this should be addressed on the kubuntu.org 4.2 announcement
[20:36] <garri> i ment exit and save?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> pyrimid: ive seen that a lot too
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> pyrimid: i get them to reinstall the kwin again
[20:36] <pyrimid> is there a way I can email whoever maintains the kubuntu.org blog?
[20:37] <pyrimid> action: yeah, that worked for me too but not before I needlessly did a fresh install
[20:37] <pyrimid> :)
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> pyrimid: thats why we have live cd to go online to find out, then fix once we know whats what
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> pyrimid: it can be avoided if you use force-all when distro upgrading ;)
[20:38] <pyrimid> you learn something new every day
[20:39] <D-Master_Alex> Is there a way to find out what the IP address Kubuntu is using?
[20:39] <D-Master_Alex> I know in Windows it is ipconfig.
[20:39] <anger> ActionParsnip, actually I was trying to find an alternative to devede :)
[20:39] <pyrimid> ifconfig
[20:39] <D-Master_Alex> Thank you,
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> anger: its always worked for me
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> anger: apt-cache search dvd
[20:40] <anger> AvtionParsnip, it's quite good but not very handy for large number of files
[20:40] <anger> plus it won't for some reason open some of the dv-files
[20:41] <anger> I have tried almost all the apps I found with search dvd, all seem to be buggy or not able to read dv-files
[20:42] <mefisto__> garri: sorry, the batteries in my keyboard just died. had to find a remote with AAAs to scavenge :)
[20:42] <MrInternet> Hi, I just looked at what apt-get autoremove is doing, and it appears that it seems that it is uninstalling absolutely everything.
[20:42] <garri> lol...sorry about that...i'm guessing my fault...hahaha
[20:43] <MrInternet> .....fsck. :/
[20:43] <Lugia010719d1> yay for netsplit
[20:43] <mefisto__> garri: so did you save that edit with # in front of the cdrom line?
[20:43] <MrInternet> Yeah... uhm. 4.9... gb... being uninstalled.... why?
[20:43] <MrInternet> Uhm. Can someone save me from apt's rampage of destruction? I've stopped it with ^S, but...
[20:44] <garri> yes sir :
[20:44] <ward_> ^C ?
[20:44] <ward_> ctrl+c
[20:44] <MrInternet> Yes, but after that? :P
[20:44] <ward_> :p
[20:44] <mefisto__> garri: sudo apt-get update      (should be no warnings or errors now)
[20:45] <MrInternet> Yeah, that isn't working very well
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> MrInternet: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:45] <MrInternet> Okay, it died
[20:46] <MrInternet> ActionParsnip: "attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place." doesn't sound like what I want.
[20:46] <garri> yay no error messages  !
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> MrInternet: from what you said it sounds ideal, whats the state of your system
[20:47] <mefisto__> garri: ok, now to upgrade amarok and its xine engine, sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> MrInternet: you could always sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[20:47] <mefisto__> garri: it might also upgrade other things
[20:48] <Lugia010719d1> Does anybody know about an application for Linux that would work as a sound-editor (with basic sound operations like cut, copypasta, delete, insert silence) and would be able to open a video so that i can synchronize a sound to a video (preferably an AVI/XVID or MKV/x264)?
[20:49] <sofi> irc.irc-hispano.org
[20:49] <jpedroza> Lugia010719d1: Have you looked at Cinelerra?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Lugia010719d1: avidemux too
[20:51] <bazyl> hi everybody ;)
[20:52] <bazyl> i have problem with my DVD, under windows works fine, unker kubuntu drops I/O errors, any clue?
[20:53] <bazyl> HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GSA-H58N, 1.03, max UDMA/66
[20:53] <bazyl> kubuntu 8.04.1
[20:53] <bazyl> ?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> bazyl: maybe try some bios options
[20:53] <bazyl> ActionParsnip: what options ?
[20:54] <luca> ma io come faccio ad installare i programmi con ste kubuntu k nn ho ankr kapito nnt
[20:54] <luca> ??
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> bazyl: not sure, flick round. yuo could also try a firmware upgrade as a last resort (risky)
[20:55] <gekkoo> anyone knows if there's a repository where i can find qt 4.5?
[20:55] <bazyl> ActionParsnip: i have upgraded to the latest firmware already
[20:55] <bazyl> ActionParsnip: under windows works absolutely fine
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> bazyl: try cdparm / hdparm with it
[20:56] <garri> looks like it's done with no problems
[20:56] <MrInternet> How do I set packages to be automatically installed instead of manually?
[20:57] <kaddi> what packages would i need if i wanted to customize my deskop?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: in what way?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> !theme | kaddi
[21:00] <kaddi> ActionParsnip : the huge grey lines around every windows are bothering my and i can't seem to find a plasmatheme to my liking
[21:00] <MrInternet> Do you have shadows on or something?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> !rar | georg
[21:01] <garri> welcome back downhill....i have been giving mefisto hard time ... he emptied his batteries on his keyboard while helping me ... but it won't stop him...
[21:01] <kaddi> ActionsParsnip : basically I'm looking for something where i can tweak the looks of a given theme
[21:01] <garri> :)
[21:01] <Lugia010719d1> Jpedroza, Actionparsnip: Ok, thanks.. I havent seen AviDemux yet, only AVIMuxGui, which is for something different (yay i have chaos in the avi*mux* apps).. I only have Audacity so far, which seems to be only for sound.. Ideal would be something like SoundForge 9 (Windows), which is emulable, but can not open a video under WIne, and the generated sound graph seems to be desynchronized from the actual sound when playing and editing
[21:01] <J_A_X> hey guys.  having some problems to stretch a dual screen wallpaper over both desktops
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Lugia010719d1: its another option
[21:02] <J_A_X> heard someone say something about sharing the wallpaper plugin over both containers, anyone know how to do that/
[21:05] <garri> mefisto__: any ideas on what to do next?
[21:06] <mefisto__> garri: did you sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[21:07] <garri> yes with out problems it seems
[21:07] <oskar_> !plasmapkg
[21:08] <oskar_> How can I find out what package contains plasmapkg?
[21:08] <garri> but amarok is still showing the same error message
[21:08] <mefisto__> garri: did you notice if amarok or amarok-xine were updated?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> oskar_: apt-file search plasmapkg
[21:09] <oskar_> ActionParsnip: thankyou.
[21:10] <oskar_> ActionParsnip: is it possible to do with aptitude somehow?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> oskar_: you need apt-file to find individual files in packages, apt-cache search can be used to search package names and descriptions
[21:14] <Omoikane_> Is there a way to extend my desktop to my 32" LCD tv via HDMI?
[21:15] <garri> The following packages have been kept back: amarok amarok-xine libavcodec1d linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[21:16] <domw888> !de
[21:16] <mefisto__> garri: ok that's something. do this: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:17] <J_A_X> how do I uninstall all plasmoids?
[21:18] <Lugia010719d1> hmm seems Ardour could be what i am looking for.. as I dont need to edit video, but only the sound, so that it synces with the video
[21:19] <mefisto__> Lugia010719d1: you're going to need to use jack audio with that. you might want to install qjackctl to make it easier to manage
[21:20] <Lugia010719d1> well adept is auto-installing a pack named jackd..
[21:20] <mefisto__> Lugia010719d1: if you just need to nudge the sound track left or right, avidemux might be more straightforward
[21:21] <mefisto__> Lugia010719d1: jackd is the daemon. qjackctl is a gui to control and configure it
[21:22] <Lugia010719d1> well i more like need to find several points in the sound where it desynchronizes, in one delete a few miliseconds of sound, at another insert seversl ms of silence, and check it with a video playback
[21:22] <garri> okay i need to reboot now... brb
[21:23] <sn00zer> Does anybody know how to start x11vnc if you aren't already logged into an X session but kdm is running?
[21:27] <garri> damn it...still the same message in amarok
[21:28] <mefisto__> garri: you could try creating a new user, log out, log in as the new user and see if the problem is still there
[21:31] <mefisto__> garri: sudo adduser <the-new-username>       if you want to try that
[21:31] <arkygeek> hi all
[21:32] <arkygeek> I just upgraded from hardy to intrepid.  I was using kubuntu with kde4.1 but now thats broken and all i can use is gnome.   I am oko with that, but i want to remove kde/kubuntu totally and then reinstall it.  a lot of stuff i need is based on it's libs (kdevelop, kile, etc) so i need it to work.  as it is, they don't work...
[21:33] <garri> should the new user name be within the < > ?
[21:33] <arkygeek> i tried sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop --purge but that doesn't do it.  it removes a very small package and thats all....
[21:33] <arkygeek> any ideas?
[21:33] <mefisto__> garri: don't use the < > just the username you want, after adduser
[21:34] <garri> oki
[21:34] <KleinerPinguin> Nabend
[21:36] <garri> ok logging out
[21:36] <mefisto__> arkygeek: it's a long list of packages. you could find it with google's help I'm sure
[21:37] <arkygeek> http://www.my-guides.net/en/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,46/topic,134.msg347/topicseen,1/
[21:37] <arkygeek> just wanted to know if there was an easier way :-(
[21:37] <arkygeek> mefisto__: but I shall forge on with that...
[21:37] <Megatherium> meh. kde4 is still lacking kde-guidance
[21:37] <mefisto__> arkygeek: you could try upgrading to kde 4.2 first
[21:38] <arkygeek> too late :P
[21:38] <arkygeek> hehe
[21:38]  * arkygeek is kde-free now
[21:38] <garri> i can play music on amarok with the new user log in...but it is on autodetect...not alsa
[21:38] <mefisto__> arkygeek: well that should now make the 4.2 upgrade flawless :)
[21:39] <arkygeek> !kde
[21:39] <mefisto__> garri: and if you specify alsa?
[21:39] <arkygeek> mefisto__: that ^^^^ will do it then?
[21:39] <garri> how do i do that?
[21:39] <mefisto__> arkygeek: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 for instructions
[21:39] <garri> and when i switch to autodetect on amarok on my normal account the sound starts again!!
[21:40] <arkygeek> thx :-)
[21:40] <mefisto__> garri: switch amarok from autodetect to alsa, in the engine config
[21:40] <garri> now i have sound on amarok on my normal log in...and on the internet and videos
[21:40] <garri> okay wait
[21:41] <garri> again the same old error message
[21:42] <ekabongo> can anyone help me get ati working?
[21:44] <garri> but on the new log in name, i can switch to aa on amonrokand play music with no problem at all
[21:44] <mefisto__> garri: ok, if you want to delete that user, log back in as your normal user and: sudo deluser username-you-are-removing
[21:44] <garri> thats weird
[21:44] <garri> no it's all right...
[21:44] <garri> but what's this all about then?
[21:45] <garri> why can i use alsa on the new user and not my normal old?
[21:45] <mefisto__> garri: so alsa does work in the new user?
[21:45] <garri> yes
[21:45] <garri> i just checked
[21:46] <mefisto__> garri: ok, then the problem is something in your home directory. the new user creates a new one.
[21:46] <garri> okay...that will be a mess to figgure that one out
[21:46] <mefisto__> garri: some setting that you could track down by elimination. or you could just start again with a new user if that's easier for you
[21:48] <garri> how do i eliminte? what am i looking for?
[21:49] <mefisto__> garri: kde programs store most of their settings in /home/your-username/.kde
[21:49] <garri> okay...how do i proceed?
[21:50] <mefisto__> garri: you're logged in with the new user now?
[21:50] <garri> no, the old one
[21:50] <ekabongo> i have an ati 200m
[21:51] <ekabongo> supposedly the fglrx driver is installed
[21:51] <ekabongo> i'm not so sure of that
[21:51] <ekabongo> glxgears won't run
[21:51] <mefisto__> garri: ok, rename the .kde folder in your home dir. (it will be hidden normally, since it begins with a . )
[21:52] <mefisto__> garri: if you want to do it in konsole: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.backup
[21:53] <garri> okay i renamed it, but it just popped up another folder with the new name and the old one still exists
[21:53] <garri> cool stuff
[21:54] <mits_> if i convert an ext3 partition to ext4 without extents, i shouldn't have problems reading it from windows (+ext2fsd) right?
[21:55] <garri> what next?
[21:56] <mefisto__> garri: probably should have done the rename when not logged in, but never mind. try amarok now
[21:58] <garri> okay...same error message
[22:00] <mefisto__> garri: lets try logging out and removing it outside of kde (but you will have to remember or write down the commands to type, as you will just have a text only terminal and no Konversation)
[22:00] <garri> hmm...that sounds scary
[22:01] <garri> i should call a friend and have him located here when doing that  hahaha  :P  ...
[22:01] <mefisto__> garri: log out, and then ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a terminal, where you can log in with your normal user/password. then type this: rm .kde
[22:02] <garri> what does that do?
[22:02] <mefisto__> garri: then ctrl-alt-F7 to get back to the graphical login, and do the login
[22:02] <garri> okay wait...
[22:02] <mefisto__> garri: that removes the new .kde folder that got created when we renamed the original one
[22:03] <mefisto__> garri: no, wrong command
[22:04] <mefisto__> garri: should be rm -r .kde
[22:04] <downhill_> uh oh, still working on that? heh
[22:04] <downhill_> should be rm -rf
[22:06] <mefisto__> downhill_: got it working, but not with amarok. but amarok works with alsa in a new user, so trying to find the culprit now in .kde
[22:10] <downhill_> mefisto__: ah. that *is* strange :)
[22:10] <downhill_> mefisto__: if I may... try killing ~/.xine
[22:11] <downhill_> it's magically fixed amarok for me numorous times, just a stab in the dark, but honestly, who sits and makes custom configs for xine now days? ;)
[22:12] <mefisto__> downhill_: tried killing ~/.xine/config but it made no difference. I vaguely remember finding amarok's xine config somewhere else apart from .xine, somewhere in .kde
[22:12] <garri> well, i have no idea if i did the right thing...damn
[22:12] <garri> hehehe  hi downhill  :P
[22:12] <mefisto__> garri: I gave you the wrong command, did you get the correction before you left?
[22:13] <mefisto__> garri: should have been rm -r .kde (or rm -rf .kde)
[22:13] <garri> yeah...but i may have been impatient...
[22:13] <garri> what is the diffiernce with the f ?
[22:14] <mefisto__> f = force
[22:14] <mefisto__> rm --help will explain the options
[22:14] <downhill_> read teh man page
[22:14] <tekteen> f = do as I say. Do not question me
[22:15] <garri> how do i see if it worked....it said some things and had dots behind it... and i got impatience and hit some key and i think i messed it up
[22:15] <downhill_> O_o
[22:15] <garri> tekteen:  hehe...nice to know, i shall try that f command next
[22:16] <downhill_> garri: waaait
[22:16] <garri> wait....i'll try it again
[22:16] <downhill_> what command did you run *exactly*?
[22:16] <garri> what?
[22:16] <downhill_> character-for-character, what did you put in?
[22:16] <garri> rm -r .kde
[22:16] <downhill_> hmm
[22:16] <downhill_> to be safe, you *should* be doing: rm -rf ~/.kde
[22:16] <garri> it seemed nothing whappening...said something then a few dots
[22:16] <tekteen> garri: rm normally asks you are you sure for protected files. f tells it to just do it
[22:17] <garri> okay
[22:17] <downhill_> UNIX-like OSes really mess up when you don't specify absolute paths sometimes
[22:17] <garri> this is getting scary...
[22:18] <downhill_> it should be if you're running rm...
[22:18] <downhill_> it's not a command to just toss around... why are you even in the CLI anyway? why not simply log in and do it that way?
[22:18] <downhill_> it's like a bazillion times easier and more intuitive
[22:19] <garri> hmm...i don't know  :P
[22:21]  * downhill_ shrugs
[22:22] <mefisto__> downhill_: that was my suggestion. removing/renaming .kde while logged in to kde didn't quite do it
[22:22] <garri> brb
[22:22] <downhill_> erm, what happened, mefisto__?
[22:23] <vir--> Hi, when i try to install plasmoid-xbar i get a error saying that libplasma2 is needed but not found. Have had it like that for a week now on two computers. Is there any known workaround? cant find anything on it on google :/
[22:23] <mefisto__> downhill_: I got him to rename .kde in gui, it immediately created a new one, no difference
[22:23] <downhill_> mefisto__: that's expected and correct. it's probably ~/.xine then
[22:24] <mefisto__> downhill_: maybe get him to remove the whole .xine dir. although we tried removing .xine/config which was the only file there
[22:24] <kaddi> i have a problem with my widgets: they all stick in the middle of my desktop
[22:25] <downhill_> O_o
[22:25] <kaddi> if i drag them to the left or right they jump right back into the middle
[22:25] <downhill_> mefisto__: well if it isn't the driver, and it isn't the alsa settings, and it isn't amarok's config, and apparently not xine's config... wtf could it possibly be? O_o
[22:25] <downhill_> buggy driver?
[22:25] <downhill_> I mean it's kinda come full-circle at this point, hasn't it?
[22:25] <mefisto__> downhill_: but it works in a new user!
[22:25] <downhill_> oh true
[22:25] <kaddi> how can i position them where i want them to be?
[22:26] <downhill_> mefisto__: move data to /home/backup with root, remove the user, create the user, reconfigure everything by hand, move in the personal data ;) ;) ;)
[22:26] <downhill_> maybe it's ~/.asoundrc
[22:26] <mefisto__> downhill_: I suppose garri could have made an error along the way, not difficult to do if you're following orders and not understanding what's happening
[22:27] <downhill_> mefisto__: the system is fine once you understand it and/or develop some methodology that works, but until that point... *yikes* :)
[22:28] <downhill_> anywho, I agree with what you're advising here... it's just getting to be a long process now I imagine, eh?
[22:28] <downhill_> wish sound was easier on Linux >.<
[22:28] <mefisto__> downhill_: oh yes
[22:28] <mefisto__> it's a mess
[22:28] <downhill_> unfortunately.
[22:29] <downhill_> besides those little niche apps, it's one of the major things holding it's users back; forget all the "year of linux on the desktop" bs arguments, I just want sound to work for the people who *do* use Linux
[22:30] <downhill_> mefisto__: are you a fan of X.org?
[22:31] <mefisto__> downhill_: not particularly. it was a headache when I was new to command line, but editing xorg.conf taught me a lot :)
[22:32] <kaddi> anyone for the widget issue?
[22:32] <downhill_> mefisto__: well after hearing Keith whatshisface's talk about the state of all the development stuff (read: very experimental code), I figured it's worth a shot to check out some of the latest stuff and see how far I get...
[22:33] <downhill_> X.org stuff, that is. kernel, GEM, libdrm2, libdri2, etc.
[22:33] <downhill_> sad part is, and I don't know dink about this, I just heard it, I guess the fglrx and nvidia drivers won't be supported kernel mode setting and friends anytime soon >.<
[22:34] <downhill_> supporting*
[22:35] <mefisto__> you could try it in a separate partition I suppose. maybe it will "just work" ?
[22:35] <downhill_> that's what I'm doing
[22:35] <downhill_> my was-Windows partition of 200GB is now my "let's see how f-ed up I can make my display" partition :p
[22:36] <downhill_> what kind of graphics card do you have?
[22:37] <mefisto__> downhill_: just an onboard ati, nothing special
[22:37] <downhill_> 3200? 3300?
[22:37] <mefisto__> X1250 I think
[22:37] <alarm> hello, i am experiencing a problem with firefox. firefox and facebook actually . most of the images on my facebook account do not open at all (neither the thumbnails) , and all i can see are the comments.
[22:37] <downhill_> ah ok
[22:37] <alarm> first thing i did was to erase all temporary files, but still not fixed. and to make it sure,  it tried Konqueror which just worked fine
[22:37] <alarm> i know its a firefox-relevant topic, but thought that i could have to do with ubuntu maybe
[22:38] <downhill_> I had an HD3870X2 but I swapped it with a relative's HD3650 because they do a whole lot more gaming than me these days
[22:38] <downhill_> should work better that way anyway
[22:38] <downhill_> alarm: #firefox :)
[22:38] <downhill_> you guessed right, hehe
[22:39] <alarm> looks like everyone is sleeping :)
[22:39] <downhill_> more or less
[22:40] <alarm> btw, what does the firefox metapackage do ?
[22:40] <mefisto__> alarm: try starting firefox in safe mode to disable extensions, see if it works that way. firefox -safe-mode
[22:40] <alarm> okie
[22:40] <alarm>  i will give that a try , thank you :)
[22:41] <mefisto__> if you have any extensions installed, that is
[22:41] <Walzmyn> Is 4.2 in the standard repo for janunty or just the PPA?
[22:41] <alarm> actually by runnign firefox i noticed errors on the console
[22:41] <Walzmyn> alarm, a meta package will grab other packages - so firefox will grab firefox 3
[22:41] <alarm> (npviewer.bin:21702): Gtk-WARNING
[22:42] <alarm> i will check whats wrong with it. maybe that is causing the problems
[22:42] <downhill_> alarm: highly unlikely
[22:42] <alarm> Walzmyn,  you confused me :)
[22:42] <downhill_> npviewer is probably nspluginwrapper running 32-bit flash^
[22:42] <MidnightDevil> hey duds :)
[22:43] <musical> hi folks
[22:43] <MidnightDevil> my kde desktop is kinda heavy and sluggish.. im using nvidia drivers (activated) .. any tips? i have a amd 4800 X2 with a 8600 GTS
[22:43] <downhill_> unless of course these images are in flash :p
[22:43] <mefisto__> alarm: did facebook load ok in safemode?
[22:43] <downhill_> MidnightDevil: update to the 180 series drivers.
[22:43] <alarm> mefisto__,  i am trying give me a second
[22:44] <MidnightDevil> downhill_: manually or through ubuntu tools?
[22:44] <downhill_> btw AMD doesn't make a 4800 X2, nor can you run both of them at the same time
[22:44] <MidnightDevil> what?
[22:44] <Walzmyn> alarm, a meta package is not an application it just pulls in other packages - for instance the KDE-Games meta package will install about 50 other packages that are applications for games
[22:44] <downhill_> MidnightDevil: by "manually" I mean via the repos, so adept or apt-get
[22:44] <MidnightDevil> ok
[22:44] <downhill_> MidnightDevil: @ the latter, I'm saying you're not making any sense with the hardware info
[22:45] <alarm> ok got it :)
[22:45] <MidnightDevil> downhill_:  i gave ya the cpu info.. which is a amd 4800 :)
[22:45] <alarm> mefisto__,  yeap problem remains
[22:45] <downhill_> MidnightDevil: oh athlon64 X2 4800+, ok
[22:45] <downhill_> sorry, misunderstood :p
[22:45] <alarm> but get several firefox errors that i will check one by one
[22:45] <alarm> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libartsdsp.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. for example this one
[22:46] <MidnightDevil> tks :) brb
[22:46] <downhill_> alarm: open a terminal please, cd to wherever your firefox install is and ./firefox-bin
[22:47] <downhill_> 'cuz it sounds like it's trying to load stuffs you really do not want nor need
[22:47] <alarm> ok hold on i think i might have found it
[22:47] <downhill_> mmm?
[22:47] <alarm> found it
[22:47] <thiago__> hi there, i followed the instruction at kubuntu.org for installing KDE 4.2, but after installation, I could login but the keyboard was not working and also there were no window borders... any clue anyone? thanks in advance...
[22:47] <downhill_> alarm: do tell :)
[22:47] <alarm> for some reason a whole url of facebook was added in the blocklist of firefox
[22:48] <downhill_> still odd that it's trying to load arts, alarm.
[22:48] <alarm> didnt think of it. just went through preferences to see any kind of restrictions
[22:49] <downhill_> thiago__: kwin isn't running. you could try going into your user directory from a terminal or something and removing the kwinrc files
[22:49] <alarm> no clue
[22:49] <downhill_> thiago__: like in ~/.kde/share/config/kwin*
[22:49] <alarm> at least now i found out :)
[22:49] <thiago__> hmmm, thanks, I'll try that
[22:49] <downhill_> alarm: indeed =D
[22:49] <alarm> thank you for helping though :)
[22:50] <downhill_> hah it was all you
[22:50] <downhill_> I'm just babbling at this point waiting for some updates to finish downloading :p
[22:50] <Musical> earlier today I installed KDE 4.2 over 4.1 and KDE desktop was no longer available on the menu! I had to use XFCE. After trying all sorts of "cures" I discovered that all I had to do was install kde-workspace (using synaptic) and my problem was immediately solved!
[22:50] <mnd999> Hi all, I had big krita problems with the kde 4.2 upgrade - got a file clash which resulted in the upgrade half working. Then I got dependency hell and had to upgrade -f which caused a world of pain. Is this a known one?
[22:51] <Musical> Hope this is of help to someone
[22:51] <mnd999> yes, i had the kde-workspace one as well
[22:51] <alarm> i am waiting for some decent application that will add automount option for external devices :)
[22:51] <downhill_> Musical: moral of the story: don't remove random packages :)
[22:51] <Musical> didnt remove anything - it just was not installed!
[22:52] <Musical> :)
[22:52] <downhill_> um, which release are you running?
[22:52] <Musical> kubuntu 8.1
[22:52] <downhill_> 8.10?
[22:52] <Musical> right
[22:52] <downhill_> with the ppa repo, right?
[22:52] <Musical> correct
[22:52] <downhill_> interesting =D it updated fine here
[22:53] <Musical> :)
[22:53] <mnd999> you didnt have a package clash like me?
[22:53] <downhill_> no.
[22:53] <Musical> just plasma
[22:53] <Musical> which I removed as required
[22:53] <downhill_> libplasma2, right?
[22:53] <downhill_> replaced by libplasma3
[22:53] <mefisto__> I also had a problem with gwenview after the 4.2 upgrade, but I just removed/reinstalled it and all was fine
[22:54] <downhill_> ah that one I did have (the gwenview one)
[22:54] <Musical> afterwards I found I had to reinstall kate
[22:54] <downhill_> same, I just removed it and told it to reinstall.
[22:54] <Musical> well all roads may lead to Rome..:)
[22:55] <downhill_> just caught me because I updated not too long ago w/o a problem =D that's all
[22:56] <Musical> great
[22:56] <mnd999> ahh i think i kno what i did - i didnt remove koffice-data-kde4
[22:56] <kaddi> ok, is there a way to delete all settings plasma may have made to itself? I've got a complete f** up desktop and i'm not allowed to change anything
[22:56] <kaddi> can i just delete plasmarc? or do i need to delete more than that?
[22:56] <mnd999> killing .kde would probably do it but you probably dont want to do that
[22:56] <Musical> my problem may have been caused because I had both KDE 3.5 amd 4 installed  befor I upgraded to 8.1
[22:57] <kaddi> mnd999 a bit less radical would be nice ;)
[22:57] <kaddi> but if there's no other way i'll delete .kde :)
[22:58] <mnd999> im no expert, that would probably work, but yes there is probably a better way
[22:58] <downhill_> kaddi: yeah you can just remove plasmarc and friends
[22:59] <kaddi> what would be "and friends"? everything with "plasma" in his name?
[22:59] <mnd999> if i were you id start another X with irc in with a reliable desktop (personally i go for xterm/twm) and experiment moving the files away until it works
[22:59] <downhill_> heh plasma_appletsrc or whatever
[22:59] <mnd999> but downhill seems to know the answer
[22:59] <downhill_> well yeah, I keep fluxbox around just for that.
[22:59] <kaddi> ok, yeah... going to delete those 2 files and see what happens :)
[23:00] <downhill_> kaddi: moving them, as mnd999 said, is always a better option ;)
[23:00] <downhill_> you can always move them back then ;)
[23:00] <downhill_> brb...
[23:00] <kaddi> kk ;)
[23:00] <MidnightDevil> back
[23:00] <MidnightDevil> downhill_: , sorry, but how do i exacly "upgrade" to the 180 series?
[23:04] <kaddi> wayy better now :D
[23:04] <mnd999> great
[23:05] <kaddi> is there a way to use window decoration with kde 4.2?
[23:06] <mnd999> 4.2 upgrade seems to have killed my desktop slideshow as well and set it back to kubuntu blue
[23:06] <mnd999> not sure if that a kubuntuism or a kdeism
[23:07] <kaddi> i had all widgets put on the same spot in the center of my desktop... not being allowed to drag them nor remove them :D
[23:08] <mnd999> i only had the amarok one and it didnt work anyway so i deleted before the upgrade
[23:08] <ulysses__> hy all, i want to install http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/New+Device+Notifier+with+Automount?content=91517, but i can't do it, because http://paste.ubuntu.com/116233/
[23:08] <ulysses__> can somebody help me?
[23:08] <kaddi> i haven't done the upgrade now.. don't know what triggered that behaviour. but  i have been playing with different themes for plasma this afternoon
[23:10] <mnd999> uly do you have the plasma headers?
[23:11] <MidnightDevil> how do i update my nvidia drivers to 1800 series?
[23:12] <MidnightDevil> 180*
[23:12] <ubuntu_> hello
[23:13] <MidnightDevil> any1? :)
[23:13] <ghostcube> MidnightDevil, what distrie ?
[23:13] <MidnightDevil> ubuntu :-)
[23:13] <ghostcube> oo
[23:13] <ghostcube> intrepid ?
[23:13] <ulysses__> mnd99, i have installed kdelibs5-dev, libplasma-dev, kdebase-workspace-dev, build-essential
[23:13] <downhill_> MidnightDevil: just install the nvidia-glx-180 package ;)
[23:13] <ghostcube> just install nvidia-glx-180
[23:14] <kaddi> is there a way to tell kvirc to open tabs instead of windows?
[23:14] <MidnightDevil> tks :-)
[23:14] <mnd999> not a good idea to just install nvidias in my experience - need to check kernel is compatible first
[23:14] <ubuntu_> i just installed vmware and now when i login it tries to do something then takes me back to the login screen, anything anyone
[23:14] <ghostcube> mnd999, ??
[23:15] <eutychus> hello. i have spent the last two days trying to get kubuntu to connect to the dell aio 966. someone said that they dont make drivers for it for linux. is there a workaround or am i going to have to sell the dell for a printer that wll work with kubuntu?
[23:16] <ubuntu_> so, i uninstalled in command line and its still broke
[23:16] <alarm> mnd999, compatibility is not an issue as long he has a new version of kubuntu
[23:16] <MidnightDevil> brb
[23:17] <alarm> i always install nvidia binaries from nvidia website. easier and less problems than from the repo
[23:17] <mnd999> alarm true, but given the pain in fixing it if the kernel isnt updating properly for whatever reason it only takes 2 secs to do uname -a
[23:18] <fidji> Fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[23:18] <ulysses__> mnd999, what have i to install to the plasma-headers?
[23:18] <alarm> why shouldnt a kernel not update properly ? and reinstalling nvidia binaries is not such a big trouble
[23:18] <eutychus> bbl. have a good day all.
[23:18] <fidji> Fidji ne joue plus au Go
[23:18] <mnd999> ulysses you have them already, by the looks of it -  its not that
[23:19] <jussi01> !fr | fidji
[23:19] <ulysses__> i have kubuntu 8.10, kde 4.1.3
[23:20] <alarm> oui oui
[23:20] <mnd999> alarm - its happened to me before, grub update doesnt work and you then end up with a system booting an old kernel with new nvidia and x wont start without hacking the config
[23:20] <alarm> hacking ? modifying u mean :)
[23:21] <ghostcube> hmm if u install the nvidia package it will use the existing kernel so grub should boot up fine
[23:21] <ghostcube> if u install a new kernel u must choose remove menu.lst by new one
[23:22] <ghostcube> if not it wont work
[23:22] <genii> ubuntu_: I do not normally give assistance in private message, this is my policy. At any rate, return to login screen can be caused by quite a few things. The most common is that ownership of the items in home directory have shifted to root user or so
[23:23] <ghostcube> ubuntu_, try to add a new user and boot into this one
[23:24] <mnd999> yes, modifying
[23:25] <zaapiel-mobile> dude
[23:25] <ubuntu_> can this be don in terminal, *sorry for that genii, you have gotten me out of most of my binds, thanks*
[23:25] <zaapiel-mobile> got an error in k3b
[23:26] <zaapiel-mobile> written data in track 1 differes from orginal
[23:26] <zaapiel-mobile> gayness
[23:29] <ghostcube> ubuntu_, with adduser it should work yes
[23:29] <genii> ubuntu_: Yes, if you can do login to console session from the login screen. Then if your username is for instance George, do like:   sudo chown -Rh George:George /home/George
[23:30] <ghostcube> to add a new user ?
[23:30] <ghostcube> or have i missed anything
[23:30] <ghostcube> :D
[23:31] <genii> ghostcube: His Q was: do you know why after i login it tries then takes me back to the login screen?
[23:31] <genii> ghostcube: Adding some user and then logging in as that successfully would likely just inform us that permissions in home dir are to blame
[23:32] <ghostcube> sure and its mostly the iceauthority that must be deleted
[23:32] <ghostcube> or any conbfigs not working
[23:32] <ghostcube> so a new user wont only show any rights prob
[23:32] <kaddi> is there a place where i could check when window decoration and/or separate backgrounds for separate desktop will bevome possible?
[23:32] <kaddi> in kde4
[23:33] <genii> ubuntu_: To logout from console session that is entered from the KDM, use: exit
[23:40] <derjens> hello everyone
[23:41] <derjens> i had just installed virtualbox 2.1.2 for testing purposes
[23:41] <talonstriker> Just curious, does anyone have problems with KDE4.2 randomly crashing?
[23:41] <derjens> now i wanted to downgrade to classic virtualbox-ose from kubuntu repos
[23:41] <derjens> installations fails loading mod vboxdrv because it is missing
[23:41] <derjens> where to get it?
[23:46] <ubuntu_> brb, gota feed the baby
[23:46] <mefisto__> ulysses__: did you get that device notifier installed?
[23:47] <ulysses__> mefisto__, yes, device notifier is in kde 4.1.3
[23:48] <mefisto__> ulysses__: I thought you wanted the automount one?
[23:48] <ulysses__> mefisto__, yes,
[23:53] <MidnightDevil> :) back, the series 180 of the nvidia driver seems to have actually made my kde 4.1 lighter
[23:53] <MidnightDevil> but still feels a little "sluggish"
[23:54] <MidnightDevil> are the kde desktop effects hardware based or software based?
[23:58] <elton> boa noite a todos