[00:10] <nhandler> Does the Launchpad API have a way to check if a source package is in Ubuntu?
[00:12] <thumper> nhandler: not sure, but I don't think so
[00:14] <nhandler> thumper: Can you think of a better way to check if a package is in Ubuntu than using the rmadison script (which I think queries the madison.cgi script on people.ubuntu.com)
[00:15] <thumper> nhandler: no
[00:15] <nhandler> Ok, thanks anyway
[00:17] <mrooney> thumper: know where I can find documentation to do anything like I mentioned above?
[00:18] <BaD_CrC> nhandler: You might be able to check it against packages.ubuntu.com
[00:19] <nhandler> BaD_CrC: I would think that that would be less efficient, but I could try
[00:20] <mrooney> hmm https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/PluginAPISpec looks better
[00:20] <mrooney> wait no
[00:20] <mrooney> that is for other tracks
[00:28] <mrooney> I have to missing something obvious, I guess
[00:31] <mrooney> Oh, https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/
[01:37] <poolie> thumper/jml, is there something written up anywhere about the concept of shorter branch naming? like just PROJECT/TOPIC with the ACL controlled separately?
[01:51] <ovnicraft> hi i install bazaar plugin in eclipse but i have this error, bzr-xmloutput >= 0.6.0 plugin not found
[01:51] <ovnicraft> if anyone can help me thanks
[02:11] <garyvdm> Hi - Is there a way to change all bugs targeted for a milestone to "Fix Released"?
[02:14] <mwhudson> no :(
[02:32] <Ursinha> garyvdm, using lplib you can do a script to do that, /me thinks
[02:32] <garyvdm> Ursinha: thanks - I'll take a look. In the mean time - I've done it manualy
[02:33] <Ursinha> garyvdm, oh, right
[02:36] <thumper> ovnicraft: you need to do something like `bzr branch lp:bzr-xmloutput ~/.bazaar/plugins/xmloutput`
[02:36] <thumper> ovnicraft: I think this is documented somewhere on the bazaar wiki
[02:37] <thumper> ovnicraft: linked from the eclipse plugin page or something
[02:37] <ovnicraft> thumper, yes i get it now and install it but i cant get it works ok :(
[02:37] <ovnicraft> this plug is for bzr system?
[02:38] <thumper> ovnicraft: the eclipse plugin depends on a bzr plugin which isn't installed by default
[02:38] <TTxT> anybody can help?
[02:38] <thumper> ovnicraft: the command I gave above is the command to install the bzr xmloutput plugin for bzr
[02:38] <thumper> TTxT: on what?
[02:39] <TTxT> thumper: Im truing to understand and use lauchpad to host my project... but I cannot submit my changes
[02:39] <thumper> TTxT: have you looked at the tour? or the help pages?
[02:40] <thumper> TTxT: which changes are you wanting to submit?
[02:40] <ovnicraft> and if i have the plugin folder in /lib/pythonX.X/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins?
[02:40] <TTxT> thumper: im looking the help pages now
[02:40] <ovnicraft> i pasted there
[02:40] <TTxT> thumper: changes of a project I create using kdevelop
[02:42] <thumper> ovnicraft: probably better to install it in the user location rather than the site location unless you have a need to make it available for other users on your system
[02:45] <ovnicraft> thumper, i am goin' to try it
[02:45] <thumper> ovnicraft: ok
[02:45] <thumper> ovnicraft: (caveat) I don't use eclipse
[02:57] <TTxT> thumper: when I use this command:  bzr commit -m "Test" I get this error:  bzr: ERROR: no changes to commit. use --unchanged to commit anyhow
[02:57] <TTxT> but there is a file that aI changed
[02:57] <thumper> TTxT: what were your commands before that?
[02:58] <thumper> TTxT: bzr commands I mean
[02:58] <lifeless> TTxT: is the file you changed, a versioned file?
[02:58] <TTxT> lifeless: no
[02:58] <lifeless> TTxT: bzr only tracks versioned files
[02:58] <TTxT> thumper: let me get those
[02:58] <lifeless> TTxT: so from bzr's perspective, you haven't changed anything
[03:01] <mrooney> What is the easiest way to get the X most recent bugs filed against a project/distro, say Ubuntu?
[03:02] <TTxT> lifeless: so I should use cvs or svn?
[03:03] <lifeless> TTxT: cvs and svn behave the same way
[03:03] <stgraber> TTxT: bzr add <your file>, then bzr commit
[03:03] <lifeless> TTxT: they have files that are versioned, and other files, and they only track changes to the versioned files
[03:03] <thumper> mrooney: go to the bugs page and search selecting most recent first
[03:05] <mrooney> thumper: sorry I meant to imply from a script
[03:05] <mrooney> aka launchpad API
[03:06] <thumper> mrooney: there is probably a way, but I haven't looked, sorry
[03:06] <TTxT> lifeless: so how can I make my files versioned?
[03:10] <MTecknology> any lp admins? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/327025
[03:14] <mrooney> MTecknology: you can delete a branch by clicking the trash can, can't you?
[03:15] <lifeless> TTxT: as stgraber said
[03:16] <TTxT> lifeless: I did that, I have followed that 5 minute guide
[03:17] <TTxT> lifeless: let me try again
[03:20] <MTecknology> mrooney: no, the oops errors coem up
[03:21] <mrooney> ahh
[03:27] <MTecknology> mrooney: I think dropping these two things is entirely beyond my control at this point. I'm not sure what other information I can supply to anyone that will be taking care of it either.
[03:29] <spm> MTecknology: looking. I should be able to clean those up for you.
[03:40] <spm> MTecknology: the series is gone
[03:55] <MTecknology> spm: how about that branch? Is it pretty screwed up?
[03:56] <MTecknology> oh
[03:56] <MTecknology> spm: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~loco-drupal-dev/loco-drupal/6.x
[04:15] <d-b> ok i would like an official response as to why an email address cannot be used to submit a bug to launchpad
[04:15] <d-b> i find this stupid. it prevents people from submiting real bugs.
[04:15] <d-b> not every one is going to sign up.
[04:15] <d-b> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/326515
[04:18] <stgraber> d-b: you already had one
[04:19] <stgraber> d-b: from gmb
[04:19] <d-b> sorry ?
[04:19] <d-b> no not to my reply on the use of an email
[04:19] <d-b> perhaps the bug should be in the ubuntu reporting facility and its use of launchpad then ?
[04:20] <d-b> and an option to send to a mailing list when launchpad is not an option should be added.
[04:21] <stgraber> relying on the e-mail address without confirmation of it is no authentication as it's extremely easy to use someone else's email
[04:22] <d-b> stgraber: yes....
[04:23] <d-b> just like i could reset the password of a launchpad user
[04:23] <d-b> if i had access to their email
[04:24] <d-b> + you can / could drop all emails that are spam / not from where they should come from (spoofed).
[04:27] <d-b> but if a report is full of spam ... its spam and shouldn't get posted right ?
[04:29] <d-b> + if id is a problem then for existing accounts then they could have an option to prevent from sending a report without a login...
[04:29] <spm> d-b: "i could reset the password of a launchpad user if i had access to their email" is a *long* way away in terms of risk management than forging an email from someones address
[04:29] <d-b> spm: i agree.
[04:29] <spm> MTecknology: is that the branch you want dropped?
[04:29] <lifeless> d-b: spoofing is easy to do, extremely hard to detect reliably
[04:30] <d-b> lifeless: ah .... what do you mean. i agree if you are not coming from 'gmail' and the user just enters and email adress into a applet sure... but otherwise you should be able to pick it fairly reliably no ?
[04:30] <lifeless> d-b: spam detection is hard as well; what we do by having people proove they can read their email is ensure that *we don't start spamming people*
[04:30] <lifeless> d-b: and that we can't be used as a spam multiplier
[04:30] <lifeless> d-b: no
[04:30] <spm> d-b: no
[04:30] <d-b> spm: cough headers cough.
[04:30] <d-b> cough domain keys if in use.
[04:31] <spm> d-b: headers can be forged. domain keys aren't always used. if spam was easy to get rid of, it wouldn't be a problem.
[04:31] <d-b> sorry if i'm spamming the channel. -> my point is if you dont' let users post a bug without logging in you loose bug reports final.
[04:31] <d-b> its just harmful.
[04:31] <lifeless> d-b: everything is harmful, so you have to choose which harms you accept
[04:31] <spm> sure. now consider the harm caused by no controls.
[04:32] <lifeless> d-b: also, if spoofing was so easy, our upstream mail gateway would surely do it as a service with the link :P. They don't, its hard. If you think its easy I encourage you to write a python module that gets
[04:32] <lifeless> extremely high success rates
[04:32] <d-b> lifeless: great. i think i will continue to not report bugs to launchpad and just file then some where i don't need to login. like debian.
[04:33] <lifeless> I'm sure the infrastructure folk would love to be able to use such a tool
[04:33] <spm> oh my yes
[04:33] <lifeless> d-b: that is of course your choice.
[04:33] <d-b> yep and lifeless my second point was shouldnt' there be a method then to post to somewhere else if we cannot post bug reports to launchpad without logging in ?
[04:33] <lifeless> d-b: however, if you're using Ubuntu, consider reporting to the forums (if you are not sure that it is a defect), and bug reports once its been assessed a little
[04:33] <d-b> like a designated mailing list
[04:34] <lifeless> d-b: -> #ubuntu-devel for that suggestion. This channel is really about launchpad itself ;)
[04:34] <d-b> lifeless: much better
[04:34] <d-b> ^^
[04:35] <lifeless> But my reaction is to say no, because that just means that either there is an automatic gateway -> all the problems return, or someone is left manually transcribing because you're not willing to reply to one email launchpad sends you
[04:36] <d-b> sorry for all the noise in the channel. thank you ^^
[04:39] <flyguy97> please don't take this as complaining but what is the typical wait time to have a translation file approved?
[04:40] <mrooney> hours to days, for the first one of the series, I think
[04:42] <flyguy97> Are there any resources users can view translated lines besides going project to project
[04:42] <flyguy97> kind of like a big repository
[04:44] <flyguy97> Another issue is whenever I go to the Translations tab I get "This project is not configured to use Launchpad for translations"
[04:44] <flyguy97> I believe the only thing I'm waiting for is a review
[04:44] <flyguy97> would this cause this message to show up?
[04:48] <MTecknology> spm: sorry, I ran off - it is the one I want gone
[04:49] <spm> MTecknology: np. once sec...
[04:49] <MTecknology> spm: WAIT
[04:49] <MTecknology> NO
[04:49] <spm> MTecknology: stopped.
[04:49] <MTecknology> phew
[04:49] <MTecknology> sorry
[04:50] <spm> :-) I was about to ask - that'll kill a few bugs and subs as well?
[04:50] <MTecknology> spm: The branch I wanted gone much have gone away when you get rid of the series
[04:50] <MTecknology> thanks :)
[04:51] <spm> MTecknology: cool. "do nothing" my favourite request :-)
[04:52] <MTecknology> spm: I had one last issue that I think is a no chance thing....
[04:52] <spm> MTecknology: shoot
[04:53] <MTecknology> spm: I made a lot of revisions with 'Full Name Email' instead of 'Full Name <Email>' ; This caused me to lose a lot of karma that I could have had... Is there any way to fix it and chance the comits so I can get the karma for it?
[04:54] <spm> MTecknology: ah that one. did that to myself too. sadly no.
[04:54] <MTecknology> :(
[04:55] <lifeless> MTecknology: oh, interesting.
[04:55] <MTecknology> lifeless: ?
[04:55] <lifeless> MTecknology: please do several things, if I can entice you into filing a couple of bugs
[04:56] <MTecknology> possible?
[04:56] <MTecknology> I need to run off for a few minutes pretty doon
[04:56] <lifeless> one on bzr, it might be nice to use a heuristic to handle 'Full Name Email'
[04:56] <MTecknology> ya
[04:56] <MTecknology> I'll file that one :)
[04:56] <lifeless> and another, probably as a 'Question' on launchpad-bazaar, saying that you ahve this issue - link to the bzr bug report
[04:56] <MTecknology> lp is taking a long time to load
[04:57] <lifeless> it may be tricky to get the revisions recataloged after we address the bug in bzr
[04:57] <MTecknology> ok
[04:58] <MTecknology> spm: still here?
[04:58] <MTecknology> apparently he just gave the branch a different name
[04:58] <spm> MTecknology: don't tempt me to reply 'no' :-)
[04:58] <MTecknology> https://code.launchpad.net/~loco-drupal-dev/loco-drupal/drupal-6.x
[04:59] <MTecknology> there is that pos
[05:00] <MTecknology> I get an OOPS when I try to delete it
[05:01] <spm> hmm. foreign key violation. bug. I'll report. Can you pls create an answer requesting the removal of that branch, I'll link the bug report to same.
[05:02] <MTecknology> I have a bug and answer request for it
[05:02] <spm> ah! useful!
[05:02] <spm> doh - of course yuo have the bug - I commented earlier. /me smacks head
[05:02] <MTecknology> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/60283 ; https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/327025
[05:03] <MTecknology> I can recreate them with better details if you want
[05:03] <spm> MTecknology: why did you set the bug to fix released?
[05:03] <MTecknology> because I thought it was fixed
[05:04] <spm> ah
[05:04] <MTecknology> updated it
[05:05] <MTecknology> I'm gonna take off for a bit - spend time with gf
[05:06] <spm> sounds like a much better plan! :-)
[06:35] <MTecknology> spm: wtf.... rubber ducky powers? a link to a site I can't access?
[06:35] <MTecknology> lp-oops.canonical.com ??
[06:36] <spm> MTecknology: the rubberduck is the icon of lp admins :-) the link is to the raw oops. trust me, you are not missing anything by not seeing it.
[06:36] <MTecknology> I wanna be an lp admin
[06:37] <MTecknology> work for the best company in the world :P
[06:37] <spm> everybody wants the rubberducky :-)
[06:37] <MTecknology> ya
[06:38] <MTecknology> spm: how hard is it to score that kinda job?
[06:38] <MTecknology> I imagine it's also one of the most competitive in the world
[06:39] <spm> the evil response would be to quote from MiB: "The best of the best of the best of the BEST" ;-)
[06:40] <MTecknology> you're one of those best?
[06:40] <spm> honestly, like all jobs, it's going to depend on a wide range of factors.
[06:41] <MTecknology> I need to go upstairs and yell at some ass holes that don't comprehend the concept of "quiet hours" defined by "hours in which one is to be quiet"
[06:43] <MTecknology> I would enjoy working for canonical, but I imgine I'm an incredibly far way from having any shot at of of the openings
[06:44] <spm> heh. if you don't ever apply, that's guaranteed. If you feel capable, and see a job come up that matches your skills and interests, go for it is my advice.
[06:45] <MTecknology> LBAE matches my interests....
[06:45] <MTecknology> I imagine I should at minimum wait until I'm out of college though
[06:48] <spm> +'s and -'s both ways. if it doesnt work out, having the full degree to fall back on would be better in the longer run I suspect.
[06:48] <MTecknology> I have one year left here after this semester - thank god.... This place is draining my sanity
[06:49] <MTecknology> I was a very angry child, I was growing out of it until I came here
[06:49] <spm> ha! what makes you think full time work is going to be better? :-P
[06:49] <spm> dilbert is *alive* and well
[06:49] <MTecknology> I get to have a little more choice over the noice
[06:50] <spm> heh
[06:51] <MTecknology> and people that are less stupid
[06:51] <spm> anyways, way past my EOD and missus is calling dinner. nice chatting with you! and good luck with uni! :-)
[06:51] <MTecknology> thanks
[06:51] <MTecknology> I'll ttyls
[06:51] <MTecknology> and you know I will ;)
[10:19] <yann2> hello :)
[10:20] <yann2> ahm, i got a question :] how do I recover the password for an account, when apparently I didnt set an email in a first place?
[10:21] <yann2> ah ok no it's fine :)
[10:24] <yann2> so to what i want to do: is is possible to change a user account to make it a group instead? If I deactivate it, will I be able to create a group with the same name?
[10:30] <asac> hi. is there a way to enable build failures to be sent to whole team for team PPAs?
[11:36]  * ToyKeeper wonders when the work day starts for whoever approves beta tester memberships
[11:41] <intellectronica> ToyKeeper: i'm pretty sure al-maisan's day has already started
[11:42] <al-maisan> ToyKeeper: I did start and should be getting off a conference call in a few minutes.
[11:42] <ToyKeeper> No hurry, especially with staging down.  It's just more fun to play with launchpad than to finish my other work.  :)
[11:42] <al-maisan> :)
[11:43] <intellectronica> ToyKeeper: staging is not down, is it?
[11:43] <ToyKeeper> Haven't tried, but the /topic says it is.
[11:43] <intellectronica> heh
[11:44] <ToyKeeper> :)
[12:01] <ToyKeeper> It should be interesting migrating a project's bugs to launchpad via lplib.
[12:03] <ToyKeeper> A 2-way conduit really isn't an option in this case, since upstream has a bizarre idea of what a bug tracker is.
[12:03] <intellectronica> ToyKeeper: anything in particular you had in mind?
[12:04] <ToyKeeper> The dillo project is finally looking for a project management host, and I'm pushing LP.
[12:08] <intellectronica> ToyKeeper: and what do you currently use for tracking bugs?
[12:08] <ToyKeeper> I get the impression nobody involved has ever used a real bug tracker.
[12:09] <ToyKeeper> It's kind of like the bug version of a 20-minute wiki.
[12:09] <ToyKeeper> http://www.dillo.org/bugtrack/Dquery.html
[12:10] <intellectronica> ToyKeeper: yes, that's quite simple indeed. it should be pretty straightforward to write a script that uses the api to import the bugs. let me know if you need help
[12:10] <ToyKeeper> It has a couple of 255-byte fields per bug, some smaller fields, and ...  that's about it.
[12:11] <ToyKeeper> I've been wanting to play with the API, and this is an easy way to start.  :)
[12:13] <ToyKeeper> BTW, how long between data resets on staging?
[12:15] <intellectronica> ToyKeeper: they usually happen daily
[12:19] <ToyKeeper> Okay, I can work with that.  It'd be a little easier to share demos if it were weekly, though.
[15:54] <MTecknology> Rinchen: how've you been?
[15:55] <Rinchen> ah gah, how did I get op privs
[15:55] <Rinchen> hi MTecknology - good thanks
[15:57] <MTecknology> Rinchen: funny thing is... that's how I noticed you came in
[15:58] <MTecknology> Rinchen: care to try your rubber ducky powers on something that another rubber ducky man was unable to fix?
[15:58] <Rinchen> MTecknology, I had to /nick this morning for some reason...disco over the weekend or something. Maybe it just decided to give me the power of greyskull or something
[15:58] <Rinchen> MTecknology, I can try. Lay it on me
[15:58] <MTecknology> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/327025
[15:58] <savvas> MTecknology: what happened with the branch removal?
[15:59] <MTecknology> savvas: ^^ that
[15:59] <savvas> ah, still not done  :\
[15:59] <MTecknology> the series is removed now
[15:59] <Rinchen> MTecknology, there's no way to do that via the UI presently. It has to be done as a custom DB update
[16:00] <MTecknology> oh... ouch
[16:00] <MTecknology> so it'll be taken care of when a regular update is going to happen?
[16:00] <MTecknology> or something like that?
[16:01] <Rinchen> MTecknology, hmm just finished reading the bug.  So all that's left is the branch
[16:01] <MTecknology> yup
[16:01] <Rinchen> I got the same error, interesting
[16:02] <Rinchen> there's something dependent upon the branch
[16:02] <Rinchen> so it can be done but there appears to be some issue here
[16:02] <MTecknology> That was my first guess so I tried taking away any associations it had with anything - I figured maybe it was the series
[16:06] <Rinchen> MTecknology, I'll have our good QA folks triage it and pass it on to the bzr-lp team
[16:07] <MTecknology> Rinchen: alrighty - thanks
[16:09] <MTecknology> Rinchen: so, I found a genuine bug in lp?
[16:09] <Rinchen> MTecknology, looks to be.
[16:09] <MTecknology> that sucks
[16:10] <Ursinha> Rinchen, MTecknology, I'll have someone of code to take a look on that bug
[16:11] <MTecknology> Ursinha: thanks
[16:11] <Rinchen> thanks Ursinha
[16:11] <Ursinha> np :)
[16:16] <MTecknology> I hate coming in here to bug people ... I prefer helping
[16:19] <Ursinha> MTecknology, no problem, bugging helps as well :)
[16:20] <MTecknology> Ursinha: I meant helping people with questions
[16:20] <Ursinha> MTecknology, I got that :)
[16:27] <hyperair> how does one file a new bug via the email interface? send to new@bugs.launchpad.net right?
[16:28] <hyperair> oh wait it worked. it's just that launchpad didn't reply
[16:31] <al-maisan_> :)
[16:33] <MTecknology> Is it possible to not have a /trunk in my series/branches?
[16:33] <MTecknology> or is it there no matter what?
[16:33] <MTecknology> https://edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal/trunk
[16:34] <beuno> MTecknology, you can rename it
[16:35] <MTecknology> beuno: I just don't like how it says "
[16:35] <MTecknology> trunk   Experimental" on the project home page
[16:35] <beuno> MTecknology, you can change it's status
[16:35] <beuno> to mature, or development
[16:36] <beuno> sinzui, shouldn't trunk be development by default?
[16:36] <MTecknology> I set the focus of dev to 6.x
[16:36] <sinzui> beuno: it is by default.
[16:36] <beuno> ah
[16:43] <MTecknology> I just changed trunk to 7.x and set it as a future release. hurray - all better
[16:45] <MTecknology> I think I really stepped into a messy setup when I started working on this project :P
[17:01] <MTecknology> matsubara: The only reason I set it to In Progress was because the other people were working on it at the time.
[17:04] <matsubara> MTecknology: all right, no problem. I updated the description and status. I'm trying to find someone to work on it
[17:04] <MTecknology> matsubara: thanks
[17:05] <MTecknology> Now I'm not able to view merge queues for a 6.x import to 7.x :P
[17:07] <MTecknology> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~loco-drupal-dev/loco-drupal/7.x | I click "1 branch  proposed for merging into this one." | Then I click "View merge queue" | Then I get this message - "There’s no page with this address in Launchpad." [....] "If this is blocking your work, let us know by sending an message to feedback@launchpad.net. Include the error ID  OOPS-1136EA974  in your message."
[17:08] <MTecknology> Am I doing this wrong?
[17:08] <MTecknology> I was just trying to learn how a merge is supposed to work
[17:10] <MTecknology> oh, there we go :) - idk why that happened, but I figured out how to approve it.
[17:37] <al-maisan> MTecknology: I guess, that settles your question https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/60283 ..?
[17:39] <MTecknology> done
[17:39] <al-maisan> MTecknology: thanks.
[17:40] <MTecknology> I'm confused... I want to have https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal show a pretty graph of all bugs ever reported. but it only seems to be showing the ones that are New
[17:44] <MTecknology> I don't see any differences in the reported bugs other than status...
[17:48] <MTecknology> time to run off - hopefully it acts right when I come back :)
[18:42] <garyvdm> Hi - I would like to upgrade a bzr branch on launchpad to 1.9, but I have very expensive limited bandwidth. Is there a way that I can instruct launchpad to do the upgrade?
[18:42] <beuno> garyvdm, you could file a question
[18:42] <beuno> and we can try and convince a sysadmin to do it locally   :)
[18:42] <garyvdm> beuno: ok - will do.
[18:42] <beuno> garyvdm, we are planning on allowing upgrades through the web ui, so this should be solved in the following months
[18:43] <garyvdm> Thats cool.
[19:18] <qsi> Hi, this is a very basic question, but I have been looking through the docs, but I can't figure out what the exact difference is between a series or a branch, ..
[19:19] <beuno>  qsi a series is a line of development
[19:19] <beuno> and a branch is an actual branch of code
[19:19] <beuno> a series may contain multiple branches
[19:19] <beuno> milestones and releases
[19:22] <qsi> beuno, ok .. let's say I have a series trunk (development),  0.1 (unstable releases) and 0.2 (stable releases) what could be then a possible branch?
[19:22] <beuno> qsi, do you work on separate branches for each?
[19:23] <qsi> sorry for the confusion, but it's terminology that I'm lacking, ... are you using the term branches for series?
[19:24] <beuno> qsi, no, actual code
[19:24] <beuno> qsi, are you using revision control?
[19:25] <qsi> beuno, actually nothing at all, I have been developing without any revision control system whatsoever, but would like to start with that, and use launchpad for that
[19:26] <beuno> qsi, ah, I see
[19:26] <beuno> qsi, so you should look into bzr
[19:26] <beuno> https://help.launchpad.net/BzrHowto
[19:26] <beuno> bzr creates branches
[19:27] <beuno> and you use that to develop
[19:27] <beuno> qsi, to start off, I'd recommend you work off trunk
[19:27] <beuno> and worry about more series when you get a better handle on how all the moving parts work  :)
[19:28] <qsi> sure sounds good
[19:52] <MTecknology> beuno: you got a minute?
[19:53] <beuno> MTecknology, sure, what's up?
[19:53] <MTecknology> On my project page, only 3 of the 12 bugs are showing up in the chart - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal
[19:54] <MTecknology> all 12 should be under 6.x as far as series-targeted bugs too
[19:54] <beuno> MTecknology, only pending bugs are shown
[19:54] <beuno> the rest of the bugs are "fix released"
[19:55] <beuno> or won't fix
[19:55] <MTecknology> oh
[19:55] <MTecknology> well... that makes sense :P
[19:55] <MTecknology> thanks for clearing that up for me
[19:56] <beuno> happy to help  :)
[19:56] <MTecknology> looks like everything is nice and perfect out there now except for our little oops which is being worked on
[20:18] <ShutterBC> Hi, I've got a quick question about using LaunchPad -- does anyone use it to host course projects, or is that discouraged?
[20:22] <amondo> ShutterBC: try the mailing list
[20:23] <ShutterBC> thanks, I'll check it out
[20:26] <mwhudson> ShutterBC: i think there are a few, yes
[20:28] <kiko> ShutterBC, course as in a class?
[20:28] <kiko> ShutterBC, it's pretty frequent that students register -- are you thinking of using it as a teacher?
[20:42] <ShutterBC> OK, I checked the mailing list archives and I see a number of students have posted their class projects here.
[20:43] <ShutterBC> yeah... basically, I'm a student in a software engineering class and we just need to build a simple application -- but I thought it would be a good exercise to really host it somewhere that I might work on other projects later.
[20:51] <emet> okay so my team has a mailing list now, how to I post to it.
[20:51] <emet> also is there a way to send a e-mail to everyone on a team without using a mailing list?
[22:55] <mathiaz> hi - I'm trying to import openldap cvs src repository in LP (at https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/openldap/main-src)
[22:55] <mathiaz> however the upstream anonymous cvs server requires a password
[22:56] <mathiaz> does LP supoprt this configuration?
[22:56] <mbp__> jml, mwh ^^
[22:56] <mwhudson> yes
[22:56] <mbp__> mathiaz: i think it has been before but it may require special configuration
[22:57] <mwhudson> you can put the password in the CVSROOT
[22:59] <mwhudson> mathiaz: let's see what happens now
[23:32] <maxb> #ubuntu+1
[23:32] <maxb> oops
[23:33] <Odd_Bloke> Is there a good way to tag several bugs at once?
[23:35] <Ursinha> Odd_Bloke, using lplib
[23:37] <Odd_Bloke> Ursinha: D:
[23:37] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks. :)
[23:37] <Ursinha> Odd_Bloke, :)
[23:38] <Ursinha> Odd_Bloke, just linked mentally your nick with the name I see in identi.ca :)
[23:39] <Odd_Bloke> Ursinha: Same here. :)