[00:04] <IntuitiveNipple> ahhh, temporary issue... reboot of the VM solved it
[02:04] <histo> There is a bug with compiz right now and nvidia
[02:04] <histo> Just kill compiz.real and you can get in.
[02:05] <histo> ctrl+alt+F1 killall compiz.real   then CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in.
[02:41] <histo> wow very little activity on this channel for this release?
[02:41] <histo> are we losing that many users?
[02:41] <maco> is dinner on the US west coast, and bedtime on the east coast
[02:42] <maco> and "kids, do your homework that's due monday!" time all across the US
[02:42] <maco> and its way past bedtime for europe
[02:48] <histo> I've just never seen this channel so slow with a release at this stage.
[02:48] <histo> hell even the ubuntu channel is slow
[02:49] <|syockit|> it's monday morning in east side of the globe
[02:54] <danbhfive> !schedule
[03:42] <Chriz212> Hi ya people =)
[03:43] <Chriz212> how can i restore grub from usb?, i installed windows 7 after jaunty =\
[03:49] <|syockit|> Chriz212: mount your root partition somewhere (eg /mnt/ubuntu), mount boot inside the root (eg /mnt/ubuntu/boot)
[03:49] <|syockit|> *boot partition
[03:50] <|syockit|> Chriz212: i wish I could show you a good page on that
[03:51] <|syockit|> Chriz212: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[03:52] <Chriz212> |syockit|i am outta cds =(
[03:52] <Chriz212> i need to uuse usb =\
[03:52] <|syockit|> no, it's for livecd/liveusb all sorts
[03:52] <|syockit|> Chriz212: do you have liveusb?
[03:53] <Chriz212> liveusb?
[03:53] <|syockit|> as long as you can boot, you can fix
[03:53] <Chriz212> i should be able to boot my usb =)
[03:53] <|syockit|> does it have a shell?
[03:53] <|syockit|> ubuntu shell of course
[03:54] <Chriz212> i am on windows 7 =\
[03:54] <Chriz212> the usb drive i blank....
[03:54] <Chriz212> is*
[03:54] <|syockit|> okay, if it's at least 1gb, then use unetbootin to install livecd on it
[03:55] <|syockit|> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[03:56] <Chriz212> woot brb 3hours....
[03:57] <Chriz212> gotta dl ubuntu....
[04:02] <|syockit|> If I only knew a smaller distro with the tools needed...
[04:02] <|syockit|> maybe DSL was good enough
[04:12] <centaur5> !blueprints
[04:55] <john_> hello all
[04:55] <john_> how can you recover ubuntu when it is booting only to (initramfs), can anyone help please please please
[05:02] <FFForever> how do i regenerate my config for grub to add windows 7?
[05:07] <kab> FFForever, boot with your ubuntu cd
[05:07] <kab> open a terminal
[05:07] <kab> do sudo
[05:07] <kab> sudo su -
[05:07] <kab> mount your ubuntu root partition
[05:07] <kab> example
[05:07] <kab> if your partition is /dev/sda3
[05:07] <kab> mkdir /media/sda3
[05:08] <FFForever> kab i am already in ubuntu =)
[05:08] <kab> mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[05:08] <kab> bind your dev and proc in /media/sda3
[05:08] <kab> cd /media/sda3
[05:08] <FFForever> how do i add run the grub auto configuration?
[05:08] <kab> mount -t proc proc proc
[05:08] <kab> then mount your dev
[05:09] <kab> mount -bind /dev /media/sda3/dev
[05:09] <kab> after you have that, you chroot your partition sda3
[05:09] <kab> chroot /media/sda3 /bin/bash
[05:09] <kab> and reinstall your grub
[05:09] <kab> grub-install /dev/sda
[05:10] <kab> and that's all
[05:13] <|syockit|> kab: does it detect win7 partition?
[05:13] <kab> |syockit|, you need to configure your menu.lst
[05:13] <kab> in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:13] <|syockit|> I take it as no then?
[05:13] <kab> you need to configure your Windows
[05:14] <kab> title Your WIndows, XP, Vista, etc
[05:14] <kab> rootnoverify	(hd0,0)
[05:14] <kab> savedefault
[05:14] <kab> makeactive
[05:14] <kab> chainloader	+1
[05:14] <kab> this is a simple example, but you can get the idea
[05:14] <kab> where sda1 is a windows partition
[05:15] <kab> if your windows partition is in sda2 you need to setup your rootnoverifi (hd0,1)
[05:26] <john_> I got it fixed never mind thank for looking
[05:39] <clp> anyone successfully installed office 2003?
[05:41] <ryanprior> clp: appdb.winehq.org
[08:26] <peterz> gah, the gnome plop plop sounds are back!!
[08:26] <scizzo-> peterz: its a feature
[08:26] <peterz> scizzo-: no its not, its driving me insane
[08:27] <peterz> scizzo-: worst part is, I had them disabled, but they came back after an upgrade
[08:28] <maco> redisable them?
[08:28] <peterz> maco: that gnome-volume-control doesn't appear to have the switch anymore :/
[08:29] <peterz> nor could I find anything usable in gconf-editor
[08:29] <maco> l
[08:29] <maco> l
[08:30] <maco> sorry, i just missed krunner
[08:30] <peterz> :-)
[08:30] <maco> WOAH
[08:30] <maco> it just went back to the old one
[08:30] <maco> probably because if you dont use pulseaudio the new one breaks *completely*
[08:30] <peterz> lovely
[08:31] <peterz> I also noticed I don't have to kill pulse anymore, because it stopped starting itself ;-)
[08:31] <maco> hm gnome-sound-properties doesnt exist anymore?
[08:32] <peterz> not on my machine apparently
[08:32] <maco> mine either
[08:32] <peterz> I tried apt-cache search, but that didn't find it either
[08:32] <maco> i dont know what's going on
[08:32] <maco> and dtchen is sick, so probably sleeping instead of going online all the time. maybe themuso would know?
[08:33] <peterz> what actually generates the plop plop stuff?
[08:33] <peterz> is that gtk?
[08:33] <peterz> or some gnome lib
[08:33] <maco> i dont know
[08:34] <peterz> right,... because I'm almost at the point where I'm going to leech the source package and teach it to not plop
[08:34] <peterz> of course, that requires knowing which source package...
[08:35] <maco> uh
[08:35] <maco> why not just rename the sound file in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ so it cant find it?
[08:36] <peterz> ok, let me do that
[08:37] <peterz> yay, that did it
[08:37] <peterz> rm -rf /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu ftw!
[08:37] <maco> doh
[08:37] <maco> er
[08:37] <maco> now you have no login sounds either you know
[08:37] <peterz> I don't care ;-)
[08:37] <maco> or the little drums when it tells you "go put in your password"
[08:38] <maco> oh. um. ok.
[08:38] <peterz> those didn't annoy me as much, because that only happens like rarely
[08:50] <howlingmadhowie> hi everybody :) jaunty is cool :)
[08:52] <CoreyOn> Hey guys, I just updated my system (already had jaunty) and now when I boot I get a black screen before the login. I have a geforce card, and I'm 100% sure it's something to do with nvidia, can anyone help with this? I've tried changing the driver to nv in xorg.conf, but no luck.
[09:02] <syockit> if nv doesn't work, then I don't think it's just nvidia. but just in case, try vesa
[09:12] <Cruster> hi there...I have a problem...when I try to disable vsync or direct rendering in advanced effects menu, effects cannot start. What could be the problem? Should I provide xorg.conf?
[09:47] <syockit> You can't have effects with direct rendering disabled. no comment on vsync though
[10:33] <Sergeant_Pony> I trued in #ubuntu and got no reply... sorry. but I need to know about xforms. I need it to compile echolinux and can't seem to find any help.? please?
[10:38] <syockit> why does it need xforms? no gtk/qt?
[10:38] <Sergeant_Pony> according to the doc's it's required and doesn't compile without it
[10:39] <Sergeant_Pony> there is no gui for the program, it's all command line
[10:41] <syockit> but xforms got something to do with x11 gui
[10:41] <syockit> try libx11-dev
[10:44] <syockit> found it: libforms1-dev
[10:44] <syockit> Sergeant_Pony: pinging you for answer
[10:44] <Sergeant_Pony> ok, cool. I'll give it a shot. thanks
[10:44] <syockit> Sergeant_Pony: sorry it's libforms-dev
[10:46] <Sergeant_Pony> thanks... now hopefully it compiles ;)
[10:48] <Sergeant_Pony> :) it worked. thanks
[10:59] <BUGabundo> good morning everyone
[11:22] <|ns|nR8> CPU- +57┬░C Fan: 4192 RPM | M/B- +39.0┬░C | GPU- +51┬░C | HDD- +38┬░C
[11:57] <gourgi> hi i have a problem  with ecryptfs
[11:59] <gourgi> i installed ecryptfs-utils , i created a second account to test --encrypt-home option, and i could login to the  2nd account butu i couldn't login to my primary
[12:00] <gourgi> actually i could login from my virtual terminals but not from GDM, it  just return back there
[12:01] <gourgi> what i did : uninstall ecryptfs-utils, login through GDM, install ecryptfs-utils and generate passprhase for the primary account
[12:01] <gourgi> so both work well now :D
[12:31] <rasta`> greetz
[13:03] <nblracer> havinge some problems with Jaunty
[13:03] <nblracer> just did an upgrade last night to oo it, and i hate to say it broke my system
[13:03] <nblracer> i have a feeling the problem is with X but unsure
[13:04] <nblracer> When i boot up it is unresponsice  on the login screen
[13:04] <nblracer> the user name text and icon are un clear
[13:05] <nblracer> I'm also not able to drop down to a terminal screen at this time
[13:07] <nblracer> After several tries i was able to login once, but then it froze while loading my user data
[13:15] <nblracer> is therea simple way i can repaire this
[13:15] <nblracer> or should i down grade?
[13:17] <platius> nblracer;  you might look at this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061919
[13:20] <nblracer> thanks
[13:22] <platius> nblracer; the forumache post worked for me.
[13:23] <ali1234> well it seems like the DPI thing has opened up a huge can of worms
[13:25] <nblracer> taking some notes now, and will give it a go in a few
[13:26] <vbgunz> has Kubuntu Jaunty updating broke? I have not gotten an update in 4 days :/
[13:26] <vbgunz> I do sudo apt-get update && upgrade and nothing is coming down.
[13:28] <vbgunz> ahh getting them now. unusual though. I've tried the last 3 days this being the 4th and I've never seen a development version go a day without an update. things slowing down?
[13:31] <vbgunz> 27 updates in 4 days :|
[13:32] <vbgunz> brb, hopefully it fixed kwin compositing crash :)
[13:33] <nblracer> brb goinging to try this
[13:56] <nblracer> still having problems
[13:57] <nblracer> i tried deleting xorg.conf
[13:57] <nblracer> and killing compiz
[13:58] <nblracer> also im using an intergrated on board vid by intel not nvidia
[14:00] <ali1234> my intel video has suddenly become really flaky too
[14:00] <ali1234> not to the point of being unusable though
[14:01] <nblracer> well my whole sytem seems to lock up
[14:01] <ali1234> compix is going really slow and the sound is crackly like it's using 101% cpu...
[14:02] <nblracer> but i dont know what my problem is
[14:02] <ali1234> a reboot seems to have fixed it actually
[14:03] <nblracer> i think it is X, since sometimes when i can enter my PW, i get a black screen of flashing colors, then it locks up
[14:11] <nblracer> bah
[14:11] <nblracer> i think  i fond the probelm
[14:23] <nblracer> here is my problem
[14:23] <nblracer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871
[14:24] <nblracer> and it is on the main page of jaunty as a known big
[14:24] <nblracer> gug
[14:24] <nblracer> baw cant type
[14:24] <nblracer> bug!
[14:25] <nblracer> may have to down grade :(
[14:25] <nblracer> let me try a few things..
[14:31] <incubii> will jauntys new kernel come with update iwl3945 drivers ?
[14:31] <bardyr> Hey, im going to install jaunty on a laptop with two disk in a raid 0 with ext4, the raid is going to hold 2 partitions one for the system one for data. one of the disk are going to have a /boot partition and the other a swap
[14:32] <bardyr> has anyone tried this or have any comments?
[14:32] <incubii> i have 4 disks in raid 0 with ext4 running, but its hardware raid
[14:32] <bardyr> incubii, did you use the alternative cd?
[14:33] <incubii> yes
[14:33] <bardyr> incubii, how is it running?
[14:33] <incubii> i dont know of any other way to install with ext4
[14:33] <incubii> runs good, no hiccups yet
[14:33] <incubii> file operations feel a little snappier
[14:34] <Like> i have a truble shot hard
[14:34] <IntuitiveNipple> ext4? Yes... deletes on large trees are impressively fast (e.g. linux kernel)
[14:34] <IntuitiveNipple> Ext4 can be selected in the Ubiquity desktop installer
[14:34] <Like> rhythmbox dont work dont launch the link
[14:34] <Like> off any link
[14:35] <Like> the suport has faded
[14:35] <Like> im out
[14:36] <incubii> um ok
[14:48] <bardyr> is jaunty going to have kernel 2.6.29?
[14:51] <custombrush> so now i will booting jaunty and check updates
[15:07] <incubii> bardyr, it looks like it will
[15:48] <unixdawg> ok I just ran the upgrades that came out and they failed.
[15:49] <vbgunz> how in the world do you set 256 colors for vim in screen? screen keeps botching my colors down to 8. why?
[15:51] <alex-weej> because vim is rubbish, use gedit
[15:57] <Volkodav> anybody else has this uprgade that can not be fully installed &
[15:59] <gnomefreak> depends on what upgrade you mean
[16:02] <Volkodav> well whatever popped up this morning with update manager
[16:02] <charlie-tca> yes
[16:03] <charlie-tca> I used apt-get and it ran all of them
[16:03] <Volkodav> some packages are not marked for download and install
[16:04] <charlie-tca> I know. Running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ran all of them, though
[16:04] <Volkodav> I wonder if I wait or go with partial
[16:04] <unixdawg> jaunty is turning out nice
[16:05] <rainmanp7> .
[16:07] <unixdawg> I just got realplayer installed and it works great
[16:07] <unixdawg> but still need koffice2
[16:07] <fujimitsu> new driver version 180 is active but visual effects will not run. blank screen with a cursor.
[16:08] <fujimitsu> had to force a shutdown. it turned unresponsive. but could restart normally without visual effects
[16:10] <fujimitsu> this is nvidia
[16:11] <syldeb35> fujimitsu: known Bug #326344
[16:12] <fujimitsu> alright
[16:13] <unixdawg> ok mplayer wont install on jaunty
[16:17] <Sebastian> Some update from the last 24 hours broke something for me. When GDM starts on my ThinkPad X60s, all I see is a blank screen. Known issue?
[16:19] <kuaera> Anyone have any information on enabling desktop window transparency? I feel it might be a driver issue, as I am running "ati" and the composite X extension is loaded.
[16:21] <vbgunz> screen doesn't see .screenrc *unless* I use the -c switch to point to it. anyone know why?
[16:27] <unixdawg> any idea when mythtv will install and work on jaunty
[16:35] <Volkodav> I am getting this error after recent upgrade ==> http://pastie.org/384063
[16:35] <Volkodav> any ideas guys ?
[16:40] <rainmanp7> I got errors where the Nvidia driver wouldn't even let me boot into the desktop
[16:41] <Volkodav> happenned too
[16:41] <Volkodav> second reboot helped
[16:42] <Volkodav> compiz is the least of the concerns really
[16:42] <Volkodav> something you can live without
[16:42] <Volkodav> that's for sure
[16:58] <fujimitsu> npviewer just crashed web surfing
[17:28] <nblracer> hello i was on earlyer this morning, reporting a problem with X, just wont to state that i was able to use the workaround provided
[17:36] <^hashbang^> I just installed Alpha 4 amd64  and I can't for the life of me get the 173, 177, or  the 180 drivers to work. I can logon to GDM but then  my screen goes to a black background, and a mouse  arrow and nothing else happens. if I go to a console I  can see that the gnome bar has started, along with  other gnomeish bits..
[17:36] <^hashbang^> 
[17:36] <^hashbang^> nvidia card that is =)
[17:37] <^hashbang^> any idea's? thoughts...
[17:37] <nblracer> hmm yes
[17:37] <^hashbang^> cool ok..
[17:37] <^hashbang^> what?
[17:38] <nblracer> i had a simmilar problem and there is know bug with nvidia, Some one gave me the link, to the work around
[17:38] <^hashbang^> btw, this is a quadro fs 560
[17:38] <nblracer> let me look though the logs
[17:38] <^hashbang^> ok cool, ty
[17:39] <nblracer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061919
[17:39] <^hashbang^> ty, i'm reading now =)
[17:39] <nblracer> how ever that was not my problem
[17:40] <nblracer> mine was this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871
[17:40] <nblracer> thats if you had a intel vid card, so dont worry about that
[17:40] <^hashbang^> ok
[17:41] <^hashbang^> funny enough, I didn't see any errors... just a black background... and I didn't have compiz enabled. I had just installed from apt-get and then rebooted...
[17:42] <^hashbang^> ah so it's a compiz and glx driver issue?
[17:42] <^hashbang^> hmm
[17:42] <nblracer> i think compiz is on by defult
[17:42] <^hashbang^> ok well, let me try it again... thanks for the link
[17:42] <maxb> ^hashbang^: bug 326344
[17:42] <nblracer> np
[17:45] <nblracer> if there a highly recomended GUI for xorg.conf?
[17:46] <^hashbang^> ok brb
[17:46] <maxb> nblracer: Your favourite text editor! :-)
[17:48]  * charlie-tca thought gedit would be the wrong answer...
[17:49] <maco> vim?
[17:49] <maco> er, gui....uh....gvim?
[17:50]  * syockit vims
[17:57] <charlie-tca> yeah, gvim for gui
[18:00] <^hashbang^> cool guys that worked
[18:00] <^hashbang^> export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 did the trick
[18:07] <vbgunz> compositing is broken in the latest jaunty. been like this for several days. anyone know whats going on?
[18:07] <maco> vbgunz: be more specific
[18:08] <maco> what video driver?
[18:08] <vbgunz> maco: I enable effects, I see the login wallpaper, and boom, stuck ... nothing happens at all. I have to edit .kde/share/config/kwinrc and disable compositing, restart X just to get it work again
[18:08] <vbgunz> Nvidias 180.22 I believe
[18:08] <maco> ok so it could be kwin or nvidia
[18:09] <maco> lemme install myupdates and ill tell if it affects my intel system
[18:09] <vbgunz> maco: I have an AMD system if it makes a difference :)
[18:11] <vbgunz> effects were working fine until a few days ago. I don't know why, but effects make everything feel faster
[18:12] <zdobersek> Is anybody having a working wireless connection in Jaunty Alpha4? With Belkin's USB adapter, NetworkManager appears to be connected to the wifi network with ~90% signal strength, but no packages seem to transmit and loading any page in firefox fails. Anybody having same problem or even solution for it?
[18:13] <vbgunz> zdobersek: are you mac filtering on the router? just curious. my only tip really :|
[18:13] <maco> zdobersek: did you use wireshark to confirm that no packets are moving?
[18:14] <zdobersek> maco: I saw incredibly low amount of packages receives/sent when looking at wlan0 connection properties.
[18:15] <maco> can you try doing "sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop" then connect using iwconfig?
[18:16] <nikolam> HI. Can I add EXT4 support to my current Hardy install?
[18:17] <nikolam> liko compile module or soemthing?
[18:17] <BUGabundo> nikolam: you are better asking in #ubuntu-server
[18:17] <BUGabundo> nikolam: you are better asking in #ubuntu-kernel
[18:17] <BUGabundo> or the kernel ML
[18:18] <maco> sounds like a bad idea...
[18:18] <maco> defnitely need to move the data and copyit back if you DO do it
[18:18] <fujimitsu> firefox is behaving pretty well. i'll even postpone installing galeon
[18:19] <vbgunz> I would love to convert my ext3 to ext4 ... I just haven't found a definitive up-to-date trusted guide or walkthrough on it :/
[18:19] <vbgunz> maco: I just did an update that requires a reboot, maybe this will fix it?
[18:19] <vbgunz> one sec, going to check for latest nvidia drivers
[18:19] <fujimitsu> convert? wouldnt you have to check off that option on installation
[18:20] <nikolam> maco, I am not using ext4 for anything but testing jaunty on another partition
[18:20] <nikolam> I know ext4 is not recommended in present time for default fs
[18:20] <vbgunz> fujimitsu: yeah, you can do it like that but I believe it is also possible to "convert" ab exisiting ext3 installation
[18:20] <nikolam> I just want access to ext4 from hardy
[18:21] <maco> fujimitsu: you can move teh data off it, format the partition, and move the data back on. it cannot upgrade in-place because the inode sizes change (or something like that)
[18:21] <maco> nikolam: might wnat to wait til they figure out that thing where files saved on ext
[18:21] <maco> on ext4 magically become 0-byte files
[18:22] <fujimitsu> right. that sounds more like the way to do it. but since i dont know how much time vs. doing a fresh install... well
[18:22] <vbgunz> going to reboot
[18:22] <vbgunz> brb
[18:22] <nikolam> maco yes, ext4 is not god for use now, bur read only or something is ok for me.
[18:24] <fujimitsu> when is that web integration thing happening (havent checked milestone)
[18:24] <maco> web integration?
[18:25] <fujimitsu> well.. thats what jaunty is about fast startup and web apps from desktop type thing.. i guess i have to read some more
[18:26] <fujimitsu> one thing i know for sure.. its still not faster than 8.10 startup yet
[18:27] <_MMA_> Any ides why desktop effects cannot be enabled on Intel 82852/855GM atm?
[18:29] <fujimitsu> visual effects are a no-go even on nvidia driver version 180
[18:30] <_MMA_> fujimitsu: Ok. Haven't tested Jaunty on nVidia yet. Thanx for the heads up.
[18:30] <Alexia_Death> fujimitsu: visual effects are entirely a go. but not with alpha4.
[18:31] <Alexia_Death> the X in that version is buggy. two versions back works nice.
[18:31] <vbgunz> maco: I just upgraded the kernel, reinstalled the nvidia driver and kwin compositing still doesn't work. I see the login screen, login, and the default splash freezes with the last 3 items still fuzzy :/
[18:31]  * Alexia_Death is using kwin with visual effects.
[18:31] <fujimitsu> driver is active.. just cannot enable visual effects properly
[18:31] <vbgunz> Alexia_Death: you're having problems with compositing too?
[18:31] <andersk> bug 326344
[18:31] <Alexia_Death> vbgunz: known bug
[18:32] <maxb> Alexia_Death: 3 versions back now
[18:32] <vbgunz> awesome, link?
[18:32] <Alexia_Death> maxb: Still there?
[18:32] <maxb> Well, I'm extrapolating from the changelog not touching anything relevant at all
[18:32] <Alexia_Death> fujimitsu: I could not enable it either some time back but it does work wuith 180.27 and the xorg version that ended in 1ubuntu0
[18:33] <andersk> 0ubuntu1.  ItŌĆÖs all in the bug report.
[18:34] <vbgunz> am going to try it without direct rendering... see what happens
[18:34] <vbgunz> if I log out, something went horribly wrong, call police!
[18:35] <vbgunz> hmm, disabling direct rendering works
[18:35] <vbgunz> I see my shadows and things are smooth :)
[18:36] <Alexia_Death> doesnt disabling direct rendering kill performance?
[18:39] <vbgunz> Alexia_Death: not sure, it seems good so far *but* I believe it should
[18:39] <unixdawg> ok having a issue on jaunty with oss/alsa/arts fighting for audio
[18:39] <unixdawg> cant get any softphone to work
[18:40] <ryoushi19> anyone having trouble starting gnome on 9.04?
[18:42] <ryoushi19> Like, I actually can't start gnome whatsoever the normal way.  I have use a failsafe terminal session, start gnome-panel, go in and start the network manager and metacity, etc etc.
[18:42] <ryoushi19> it's kind of a pain.
[18:43] <ryoushi19> and then my sound doesn't even work.
[18:43] <ryoushi19> anyone have any suggestions at all?
[18:43] <maco> evolution is using 99% CPU on trying to send an email
[18:44] <maco> it uses 38% just sitting there, then i hit send and it spikes to 101% then settles down to 98%
[18:47] <ryoushi19> so, does anyone know any way to get gnome to start normally?
[18:47] <maxb> bug 326344
[18:47] <maco> as opposed to abnormally?
[18:48] <custombrush> by putting this line in your ~/.gnomerc:
[18:48] <custombrush>   export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1  it works
[18:48] <maco> what about for kde users?
[18:48] <histo> ryoushi19: ctrl+alt+f1 kill compiz.real then switch back
[18:48] <ryoushi19> well, starting abnormally would be having to open an xterm session, starting gnome panel, then starting everything else from there.
[18:48] <ryoushi19> but thank you for your suggestions, I'll try them.
[18:48] <histo> Just basically kill compiz.real and it works for the time being.
[18:48] <maco> check your xsession-errors because gnome-session sounds like not running
[18:48] <maco> sure you didnt choose Run Xclient Script?
[18:49] <ryoushi19> no, I chose failsafe terminal.
[18:49] <ryoushi19> to get it to actually work.
[18:49] <maco> er....well that's what a failsafe terminal is supposed to be like...
[18:49] <ryoushi19> well, yes, I know.  I'm saying that was what I did to work around it.  the normal gnome session wouldn't start.
[18:49] <ryoushi19> and I was starting the normal gnome session.
[18:51] <maco> what happens when you try to start the nomral one?
[18:59] <ryoushi19> K, the whole "kill compiz.real from a terminal" thing didn't work out.  what were the other methods again?
[19:03] <kulight> i have moved to jaunty today every thing went well except when trying to  enable nvidia 173 drivers it installs well but when booting up again i get only the desktop wallpaper and nothing else. any idea's ?
[19:04] <kulight> !Bug 326215
[19:04] <andersk> It's happening to everyone.  bug 326344.  (Which I think I might have just figured out, by the way!)
[19:04] <andersk> I'm currently testing a debdif that should fix it.
[19:04] <kulight> yay :)
[19:05] <andersk> We'll know as soon as xorg finishes building...
[19:05] <kulight> i'll wait ill help test if you want
[19:07] <kulight> there is pretty big performance boost...
[19:07] <histo> kulight: ON WHAT?
[19:07] <kulight> jaunty jeneral fell
[19:07] <kulight> feel
[19:08] <histo> no big performance boost on what jaunty?
[19:08] <histo> with the new kernel and xorg?
[19:08] <histo> I don't see it.
[19:08] <kulight> no just the general feel of the system compare to intrepid
[19:09] <kulight> histo: ^
[19:10] <maco> anyone reproduce: evolution uses ~ 100% CPU trying to send signed mails then fails to sign/send them anyway?
[19:10] <custombrush> i use thunderbird
[19:10] <maco> well that doesnt count...
[19:12] <andersk> Hmm.  That debdiff didn't work.  I'll keep looking.
[19:34] <maxb> Could the "increase max clients" thing get reverted temporarily?
[19:37] <maco> maxb: what?
[19:39] <maxb> bug 326344
[19:46] <CoreyOn> Hello, I just updated my system (already had Jaunty) and now when I restart I get a black screen, and it'll never load the log in menu. I've read this is a problem with the latest xorg version. However I can't fix this, as no matter what I do it's stuck on this black screen.
[19:47] <maxb> Is your graphics hardware nvidia? Do you not even get to the login screen?
[19:47] <CoreyOn> It is nvidia, no I can't get to the login screen
[19:48] <CoreyOn> Even tried changing my xorg.conf in a live cd to the driver mode as nv, that didnt work as well
[19:48] <histo> CoreyOn: try safe graphics mode
[19:49] <kulight> CoreyOn: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:49] <maxb> hrm, this is sounding somewhat different to what other people are experiencing
[19:49] <CoreyOn> I've read fixes for this problem, I can't seem to get out of the black screen
[19:49] <CoreyOn> How do I get to safe graphics mode?
[19:50] <histo> Your botting the live cd or this is on your hd?
[19:50] <maxb> I suggest first attempting a rollback of the troublesome xserver update: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.5.99.902-0ubuntu1_*.deb
[19:50] <CoreyOn> hard drive
[19:50] <histo> CoreyOn: oh kill compiz.real
[19:50] <CoreyOn> maxb: I cant get out of the black screen -> meaning I can't get to a terminal
[19:50] <histo> CoreyOn: boot up hit ctrl+alt+F1 the ps aux | grep compiz find hte pid number sudo kill thatpid  then ctrl+alt+f7
[19:50] <maxb> You can't even switch to a text VT ?
[19:51] <CoreyOn> i've tried ctrl+alt+f1, that doesnt do anything either
[19:51] <CoreyOn> still is a black screen
[19:52] <CoreyOn> it might be different from what other people said because it's loading kubuntu, with the kdm instead of gdm
[19:53] <histo> CoreyOn: well right now there is a problem with compiz and nvidia
[19:53] <CoreyOn> I knew this, but nobody else mentioned that they couldn't get to the terminal, where I can't seem to do it
[19:54] <histo> bug 326344
[19:54] <histo> Try booting to recover mode.
[19:54] <maxb> CoreyOn: What about booting, choosing the recovery mode option at the bootloader menu?
[19:54] <CoreyOn> Ok, but these people can get to the terminal
[19:55] <CoreyOn> also i've tried recovery mode, that didnt do anything either
[19:55] <maxb> Define "not do anything"
[19:55] <CoreyOn> black screen
[19:55] <CoreyOn> blank
[19:55] <CoreyOn> nothing
[19:56] <maxb> Well, I don't think recovery mode even goes into X, does it?
[19:56] <CoreyOn> sorry, i meant when it does boot after
[19:56] <maxb> Well, get a text mode prompt via recovery mode and fix things there, then
[19:56] <CoreyOn> it gives me the menu of choices, i've tried the one that trys to fix the graphics
[19:56] <CoreyOn> that didnt fix it
[19:57] <maxb> BTW, I've pushed a package with the troublesome patch reverted to my PPA.
[19:57] <CoreyOn> which option is that?
[19:57] <maxb> Binaries haven't been published yet, I expect they will be at the top-of-the-hour publisher run.
[19:58] <CoreyOn> how do i get to the prompt from recovery mode?
[19:58] <maxb> Doesn't it just give you that option?
[19:58] <CoreyOn> i dont remember it being there, i guss i'll try it again
[19:59] <CoreyOn> if i do get in, what command shoudl i type?
[19:59] <CoreyOn> i'm not using compiz, its kwin
[19:59] <kulight> CoreyOn: ū¤ūÉūō ūØū× ūóū©ūĢūĀ ū”ū¦ū×ūĢ
[20:00] <kulight> CoreyOn: its on grub menu
[20:00] <CoreyOn> kulight, i cant see that text
[20:00] <kulight> when booting up you dont see anything ?
[20:01] <CoreyOn> Yes, I see my bootup screen as normal
[20:01] <CoreyOn>  CoreyOn: ū¤ūÉūō ūØū× ūóū©ūĢūĀ ū”ū¦ū×ūĢ that I cannot read
[20:02] <kulight> oh sorry its the wrong lang (im switching between chats)
[20:09] <CoreyUn> ok so i'm in root via the recovery option, what command should i use now?
[20:10] <kulight> CoreyUn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:11] <maxb> Maybe try rolling back to the earlier x server first?
[20:11] <maxb> dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.5.99.902-0ubuntu1_*.deb
[20:11] <maxb> assuming it's still in cache
[20:11] <CoreyUn> ok well it says xserver=xorg isnt installed
[20:15] <maxb> The name is xserver-xorg-core
[20:15] <CoreyUn> yes yours worked, i'm retarting now to see if its fixed
[20:16] <CoreyUn> nice its working
[20:19] <CoreyUn> ok new problem, i can now login, but once i try logging into kde, it'll try to log in, and then go back to the login window... however i can log into gnome
[20:24] <unixdawg> ok having random lockups in jaunty
[20:24] <unixdawg> runs fine then I open seamonkey or another app and it locks the system up
[20:58] <_VIM_> are there no Kubuntu version of Jaunty? When i go to this site, none of them are labeled Kubuntu, only Ubuntu-desktop-i386-iso
[20:59] <_VIM_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-4/
[20:59] <BUGabundo> _VIM_:
[20:59] <BUGabundo>  !daily
[21:00] <BUGabundo> _VIM_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[21:00] <_VIM_> ok i was going by the site in the topic :D
[21:01] <_VIM_> lol they're labeled the same
[21:02] <_VIM_> they should have the word kubuntu in them :/
[21:10] <BUGabundo> yeah
[21:10] <BUGabundo> I had to change my rsync scripts
[21:11] <bardyr_> Hey, does anybody else have a problem with compiz feezing the desktop environment?
[21:11] <andersk> Everyone.
[21:11] <andersk> bug 326344
[21:12] <bardyr_> kk
[21:12] <BUGabundo> LOL
[21:12] <bardyr_> #326344
[21:12] <BUGabundo> andersk: eheh already on trigger?
[21:12] <maco> any evolution users experiencing extremely high cpu load when attempting to sign emails?
[21:13] <andersk> PGP sign?  No, seems to work fine for me.
[21:15] <geser> does somebody know what's the current way to setup the (gstreamer) audiosink in jaunty? I used till now gnome-sound-properties but it seems to be gone.
[21:15] <BUGabundo> is there even sound working??
[21:16] <maco> sound works for me in kde...'
[21:16] <maco> have not rebooted today though
[21:18] <BUGabundo> maco: are you on jaunty now?
[21:18] <BUGabundo> I have to kill PA a few times just for it to connect
[21:18] <BUGabundo> and then it fails to accept connections from any other app, other then the 1st
[21:19] <geser> I can use totem to play some mp4 from youtube, but I don't use PA but plain alsa
[21:20] <geser> but I don't know where I can change from analog output to digital output
[21:20] <geser> trying PA to get sound on both analog and digital output at the same time is on my TODO list
[21:20] <maco> BUGabundo: note the "kde" part of that
[21:21] <maco> kde doesnt use pulse
[21:21] <maco> BUGabundo: if youre only getting connections from the first app, i really doubt pulse is in use
[21:21] <maco> thats what happens when you use pure alsa with no dmix
[21:22] <maco> andersk: its using 100% cpu for a few minutes before finally bringing up the passphrase box. then i enter the passphrase correctly. then it always tells me i did it wrong.
[21:24] <andersk> maco: Yeah, I definitely don't see that problem.
[21:25] <maco> :-/ wonder if evo's having troube using gpg-agent instead of seahorse-agent... it *should* work. it worked yesterday.
[21:27] <hggdh> maco, my experience is that gpg-agent slightly clobbers seahorse-agent (so I was getting the KDE password dialog instead of the Gnome one). But I do not know what else could happen
[21:28] <quentusrex> Can someone tell me how to delete a gconf tree?
[21:28] <quentusrex> I have a f***ing piece of software that improperly wrote to gconf, and now I can't remove it... I can't remove the tree....
[21:29] <maco> hggdh: for some reason im getting the gnome one today. i guess evo is trying to use the not-running seahorse-agent even though it is *perfectly capable* of using gpg-agent...as it did before seahorse-agent existed
[21:29] <quentusrex> and the gconftool-2 --recursive-unset won't unset all of the keys... only half of them.... I need to delete the tree....
[21:29] <BUGabundo> quentusrex: gconf-editor ??
[21:29] <maco> BUGabundo: gconf-editor cant do that
[21:29] <maco> it can delete individual keys, but not folders
[21:30] <quentusrex> yeah, I need to delete whole folders....
[21:32] <BUGabundo> dunno
[21:32] <BUGabundo> welcome RAOF
[21:40] <quentusrex> ARGHHH....
[21:40] <quentusrex> Why would there be something that the root user can't erase???
[21:40] <BUGabundo> AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[21:40] <BUGabundo> AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
[21:40] <BUGabundo> this is nice!
[21:40] <BUGabundo> :((((((
[21:51] <quentusrex> what's the grep command to search for text in a directory of files recurisvly?
[21:52] <andersk> -r
[21:54] <quentusrex> I mean look inside each of the text files?
[21:56] <andersk> You mean look only at text files and not binary files or devices?  See --binary-files and --devices in the grep(1) manpage.
[21:57] <quentusrex> Will I have to reinstall to get rid of glorified registry errors?
[21:57] <quentusrex> andersk: yes, only text files.
[21:57] <quentusrex> andersk: just in case you missed the original problem. gconf won't allow me to delete a particular tree... I need to delete the directory.
[21:58] <quentusrex> and I'm told it might do this if there is a default setting for gconf somewhere, but gconf won't tell me where that damn file is, or even if there is one....
[21:58] <quentusrex> So because of the inability to delete a gconf directory I might have to install.... :(
[21:59] <andersk> You almost certainly don't want to delete the defaults.
[21:59] <andersk> You could try reinstalling the package that contains the defaults, if you suspect that the defaults have somehow been messed up.
[21:59] <quentusrex> I have purged an application from my system, but the gconf stuff isn't removed...
[21:59] <quentusrex> and I have no way to manually remove them.
[22:00] <andersk> `dpkg -S /usr/share/gconf/defaults` will print a list of packages that own files in /usr/share/gconf/defaults.
[22:00] <andersk> Try reinstalling those packages, then run sudo update-gconf-defaults.
[22:01] <quentusrex> the app isn't in there...
[22:01] <quentusrex> thanks andersk somehow that worked....
[22:02] <quentusrex> I think it was the update-gconf-defaults...
[22:02] <quentusrex> it seems not to do that automatically....
[22:02] <andersk> Which package?
[22:03] <quentusrex> I tried to install ekiga 3.0
[22:03] <quentusrex> but that failed...
[22:04] <quentusrex> and then I removed it, and tried to install ekiga 2.0 from package,
[22:04] <quentusrex> but ekiga 3.0 left 'problems'
[22:05] <brucealdridge> running jaunty, ran updated, rebooted, blank screen, can still login/ssh ... just no display.
[23:04] <brucealdridge> running jaunty, ran updated, rebooted, blank screen, can still login/ssh ... just no display.
[23:07] <quentusrex> is it possible to take a package from jaunty and install it in intrepid?
[23:14] <dou213> hi guys, can somebody help me set up my ftp-server correctly? i am behind my router, trying to connect with FileZilla within the lan on an ubuntu server box, when i connect unencrypted it works just fine, when i do it with SSL it gives me an error: Connection timed out!
[23:18] <bernz> dou213, try to avoid cross-posting to unrelated channels -- this is not an appropriate one for general help  ;-)
[23:18] <bernz> (you can pm me and i can try to suggest some things to help, but i'm not an expert or anything)
[23:19] <dou213> ok thx bernz
[23:22] <andersk> quentusrex: Sometimes.
[23:23] <andersk> Check the package dependencies for a good approximation of whether it's likely to work.
[23:55] <bernz> is jaunty the first release to use a moniker based on a non-existent animal?  :-)
[23:56] <FFForever> how do i find out what partition windows is?
[23:56] <FFForever> (so i can add it to menu.lst
[23:56] <FFForever> )
[23:56] <maxb> Try "blkid"