| IntuitiveNipple | ahhh, temporary issue... reboot of the VM solved it | 00:04 |
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| histo | There is a bug with compiz right now and nvidia | 02:04 |
| histo | Just kill compiz.real and you can get in. | 02:04 |
| histo | ctrl+alt+F1 killall compiz.real then CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in. | 02:05 |
| histo | wow very little activity on this channel for this release? | 02:41 |
| histo | are we losing that many users? | 02:41 |
| maco | is dinner on the US west coast, and bedtime on the east coast | 02:41 |
| maco | and "kids, do your homework that's due monday!" time all across the US | 02:42 |
| maco | and its way past bedtime for europe | 02:42 |
| histo | I've just never seen this channel so slow with a release at this stage. | 02:48 |
| histo | hell even the ubuntu channel is slow | 02:48 |
| |syockit| | it's monday morning in east side of the globe | 02:49 |
| danbhfive | !schedule | 02:54 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Jaunty Jackelope (9.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule | 02:54 |
| Chriz212 | Hi ya people =) | 03:42 |
| Chriz212 | how can i restore grub from usb?, i installed windows 7 after jaunty =\ | 03:43 |
| |syockit| | Chriz212: mount your root partition somewhere (eg /mnt/ubuntu), mount boot inside the root (eg /mnt/ubuntu/boot) | 03:49 |
| |syockit| | *boot partition | 03:49 |
| |syockit| | Chriz212: i wish I could show you a good page on that | 03:50 |
| |syockit| | Chriz212: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 | 03:51 |
| Chriz212 | |syockit|i am outta cds =( | 03:52 |
| Chriz212 | i need to uuse usb =\ | 03:52 |
| |syockit| | no, it's for livecd/liveusb all sorts | 03:52 |
| |syockit| | Chriz212: do you have liveusb? | 03:52 |
| Chriz212 | liveusb? | 03:53 |
| |syockit| | as long as you can boot, you can fix | 03:53 |
| Chriz212 | i should be able to boot my usb =) | 03:53 |
| |syockit| | does it have a shell? | 03:53 |
| |syockit| | ubuntu shell of course | 03:53 |
| Chriz212 | i am on windows 7 =\ | 03:54 |
| Chriz212 | the usb drive i blank.... | 03:54 |
| Chriz212 | is* | 03:54 |
| |syockit| | okay, if it's at least 1gb, then use unetbootin to install livecd on it | 03:54 |
| |syockit| | http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ | 03:55 |
| Chriz212 | woot brb 3hours.... | 03:56 |
| Chriz212 | gotta dl ubuntu.... | 03:57 |
| |syockit| | If I only knew a smaller distro with the tools needed... | 04:02 |
| |syockit| | maybe DSL was good enough | 04:02 |
| centaur5 | !blueprints | 04:12 |
| ubottu | Want to suggest or discuss ideas of a future project/feature? With Launchpad you can track blueprints (feature specification summaries) from discussion through review, approval, and implementation. See https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ | 04:12 |
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| john_ | hello all | 04:55 |
| john_ | how can you recover ubuntu when it is booting only to (initramfs), can anyone help please please please | 04:55 |
| FFForever | how do i regenerate my config for grub to add windows 7? | 05:02 |
| kab | FFForever, boot with your ubuntu cd | 05:07 |
| kab | open a terminal | 05:07 |
| kab | do sudo | 05:07 |
| kab | sudo su - | 05:07 |
| kab | mount your ubuntu root partition | 05:07 |
| kab | example | 05:07 |
| kab | if your partition is /dev/sda3 | 05:07 |
| kab | mkdir /media/sda3 | 05:07 |
| FFForever | kab i am already in ubuntu =) | 05:08 |
| kab | mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 | 05:08 |
| kab | bind your dev and proc in /media/sda3 | 05:08 |
| kab | cd /media/sda3 | 05:08 |
| FFForever | how do i add run the grub auto configuration? | 05:08 |
| kab | mount -t proc proc proc | 05:08 |
| kab | then mount your dev | 05:08 |
| kab | mount -bind /dev /media/sda3/dev | 05:09 |
| kab | after you have that, you chroot your partition sda3 | 05:09 |
| kab | chroot /media/sda3 /bin/bash | 05:09 |
| kab | and reinstall your grub | 05:09 |
| kab | grub-install /dev/sda | 05:09 |
| kab | and that's all | 05:10 |
| |syockit| | kab: does it detect win7 partition? | 05:13 |
| kab | |syockit|, you need to configure your menu.lst | 05:13 |
| kab | in your /boot/grub/menu.lst | 05:13 |
| |syockit| | I take it as no then? | 05:13 |
| kab | you need to configure your Windows | 05:13 |
| kab | title Your WIndows, XP, Vista, etc | 05:14 |
| kab | rootnoverify(hd0,0) | 05:14 |
| kab | savedefault | 05:14 |
| kab | makeactive | 05:14 |
| kab | chainloader+1 | 05:14 |
| kab | this is a simple example, but you can get the idea | 05:14 |
| kab | where sda1 is a windows partition | 05:14 |
| kab | if your windows partition is in sda2 you need to setup your rootnoverifi (hd0,1) | 05:15 |
| john_ | I got it fixed never mind thank for looking | 05:26 |
| clp | anyone successfully installed office 2003? | 05:39 |
| ryanprior | clp: appdb.winehq.org | 05:41 |
| peterz | gah, the gnome plop plop sounds are back!! | 08:26 |
| scizzo- | peterz: its a feature | 08:26 |
| peterz | scizzo-: no its not, its driving me insane | 08:26 |
| peterz | scizzo-: worst part is, I had them disabled, but they came back after an upgrade | 08:27 |
| maco | redisable them? | 08:28 |
| peterz | maco: that gnome-volume-control doesn't appear to have the switch anymore :/ | 08:28 |
| peterz | nor could I find anything usable in gconf-editor | 08:29 |
| maco | l | 08:29 |
| maco | l | 08:29 |
| maco | sorry, i just missed krunner | 08:30 |
| peterz | :-) | 08:30 |
| maco | WOAH | 08:30 |
| maco | it just went back to the old one | 08:30 |
| maco | probably because if you dont use pulseaudio the new one breaks *completely* | 08:30 |
| peterz | lovely | 08:30 |
| peterz | I also noticed I don't have to kill pulse anymore, because it stopped starting itself ;-) | 08:31 |
| maco | hm gnome-sound-properties doesnt exist anymore? | 08:31 |
| peterz | not on my machine apparently | 08:32 |
| maco | mine either | 08:32 |
| peterz | I tried apt-cache search, but that didn't find it either | 08:32 |
| maco | i dont know what's going on | 08:32 |
| maco | and dtchen is sick, so probably sleeping instead of going online all the time. maybe themuso would know? | 08:32 |
| peterz | what actually generates the plop plop stuff? | 08:33 |
| peterz | is that gtk? | 08:33 |
| peterz | or some gnome lib | 08:33 |
| maco | i dont know | 08:33 |
| peterz | right,... because I'm almost at the point where I'm going to leech the source package and teach it to not plop | 08:34 |
| peterz | of course, that requires knowing which source package... | 08:34 |
| maco | uh | 08:35 |
| maco | why not just rename the sound file in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ so it cant find it? | 08:35 |
| peterz | ok, let me do that | 08:36 |
| peterz | yay, that did it | 08:37 |
| peterz | rm -rf /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu ftw! | 08:37 |
| maco | doh | 08:37 |
| maco | er | 08:37 |
| maco | now you have no login sounds either you know | 08:37 |
| peterz | I don't care ;-) | 08:37 |
| maco | or the little drums when it tells you "go put in your password" | 08:37 |
| maco | oh. um. ok. | 08:38 |
| peterz | those didn't annoy me as much, because that only happens like rarely | 08:38 |
| howlingmadhowie | hi everybody :) jaunty is cool :) | 08:50 |
| CoreyOn | Hey guys, I just updated my system (already had jaunty) and now when I boot I get a black screen before the login. I have a geforce card, and I'm 100% sure it's something to do with nvidia, can anyone help with this? I've tried changing the driver to nv in xorg.conf, but no luck. | 08:52 |
| syockit | if nv doesn't work, then I don't think it's just nvidia. but just in case, try vesa | 09:02 |
| Cruster | hi there...I have a problem...when I try to disable vsync or direct rendering in advanced effects menu, effects cannot start. What could be the problem? Should I provide xorg.conf? | 09:12 |
| syockit | You can't have effects with direct rendering disabled. no comment on vsync though | 09:47 |
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| Sergeant_Pony | I trued in #ubuntu and got no reply... sorry. but I need to know about xforms. I need it to compile echolinux and can't seem to find any help.? please? | 10:33 |
| syockit | why does it need xforms? no gtk/qt? | 10:38 |
| Sergeant_Pony | according to the doc's it's required and doesn't compile without it | 10:38 |
| Sergeant_Pony | there is no gui for the program, it's all command line | 10:39 |
| syockit | but xforms got something to do with x11 gui | 10:41 |
| syockit | try libx11-dev | 10:41 |
| syockit | found it: libforms1-dev | 10:44 |
| syockit | Sergeant_Pony: pinging you for answer | 10:44 |
| Sergeant_Pony | ok, cool. I'll give it a shot. thanks | 10:44 |
| syockit | Sergeant_Pony: sorry it's libforms-dev | 10:44 |
| Sergeant_Pony | thanks... now hopefully it compiles ;) | 10:46 |
| Sergeant_Pony | :) it worked. thanks | 10:48 |
| BUGabundo | good morning everyone | 10:59 |
| |ns|nR8 | CPU- +57°C Fan: 4192 RPM | M/B- +39.0°C | GPU- +51°C | HDD- +38°C | 11:22 |
| gourgi | hi i have a problem with ecryptfs | 11:57 |
| gourgi | i installed ecryptfs-utils , i created a second account to test --encrypt-home option, and i could login to the 2nd account butu i couldn't login to my primary | 11:59 |
| gourgi | actually i could login from my virtual terminals but not from GDM, it just return back there | 12:00 |
| gourgi | what i did : uninstall ecryptfs-utils, login through GDM, install ecryptfs-utils and generate passprhase for the primary account | 12:01 |
| gourgi | so both work well now :D | 12:01 |
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| rasta` | greetz | 12:31 |
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| nblracer | havinge some problems with Jaunty | 13:03 |
| nblracer | just did an upgrade last night to oo it, and i hate to say it broke my system | 13:03 |
| nblracer | i have a feeling the problem is with X but unsure | 13:03 |
| nblracer | When i boot up it is unresponsice on the login screen | 13:04 |
| nblracer | the user name text and icon are un clear | 13:04 |
| nblracer | I'm also not able to drop down to a terminal screen at this time | 13:05 |
| nblracer | After several tries i was able to login once, but then it froze while loading my user data | 13:07 |
| nblracer | is therea simple way i can repaire this | 13:15 |
| nblracer | or should i down grade? | 13:15 |
| platius | nblracer; you might look at this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061919 | 13:17 |
| nblracer | thanks | 13:20 |
| platius | nblracer; the forumache post worked for me. | 13:22 |
| ali1234 | well it seems like the DPI thing has opened up a huge can of worms | 13:23 |
| nblracer | taking some notes now, and will give it a go in a few | 13:25 |
| vbgunz | has Kubuntu Jaunty updating broke? I have not gotten an update in 4 days :/ | 13:26 |
| vbgunz | I do sudo apt-get update && upgrade and nothing is coming down. | 13:26 |
| vbgunz | ahh getting them now. unusual though. I've tried the last 3 days this being the 4th and I've never seen a development version go a day without an update. things slowing down? | 13:28 |
| vbgunz | 27 updates in 4 days :| | 13:31 |
| vbgunz | brb, hopefully it fixed kwin compositing crash :) | 13:32 |
| nblracer | brb goinging to try this | 13:33 |
| nblracer | still having problems | 13:56 |
| nblracer | i tried deleting xorg.conf | 13:57 |
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| nblracer | and killing compiz | 13:57 |
| nblracer | also im using an intergrated on board vid by intel not nvidia | 13:58 |
| ali1234 | my intel video has suddenly become really flaky too | 14:00 |
| ali1234 | not to the point of being unusable though | 14:00 |
| nblracer | well my whole sytem seems to lock up | 14:01 |
| ali1234 | compix is going really slow and the sound is crackly like it's using 101% cpu... | 14:01 |
| nblracer | but i dont know what my problem is | 14:02 |
| ali1234 | a reboot seems to have fixed it actually | 14:02 |
| nblracer | i think it is X, since sometimes when i can enter my PW, i get a black screen of flashing colors, then it locks up | 14:03 |
| nblracer | bah | 14:11 |
| nblracer | i think i fond the probelm | 14:11 |
| nblracer | here is my problem | 14:23 |
| nblracer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871 | 14:23 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 304871 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845G] Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer (Jaunty)" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 14:23 |
| nblracer | and it is on the main page of jaunty as a known big | 14:24 |
| nblracer | gug | 14:24 |
| nblracer | baw cant type | 14:24 |
| nblracer | bug! | 14:24 |
| nblracer | may have to down grade :( | 14:25 |
| nblracer | let me try a few things.. | 14:25 |
| incubii | will jauntys new kernel come with update iwl3945 drivers ? | 14:31 |
| bardyr | Hey, im going to install jaunty on a laptop with two disk in a raid 0 with ext4, the raid is going to hold 2 partitions one for the system one for data. one of the disk are going to have a /boot partition and the other a swap | 14:31 |
| bardyr | has anyone tried this or have any comments? | 14:32 |
| incubii | i have 4 disks in raid 0 with ext4 running, but its hardware raid | 14:32 |
| bardyr | incubii, did you use the alternative cd? | 14:32 |
| incubii | yes | 14:33 |
| bardyr | incubii, how is it running? | 14:33 |
| incubii | i dont know of any other way to install with ext4 | 14:33 |
| incubii | runs good, no hiccups yet | 14:33 |
| incubii | file operations feel a little snappier | 14:33 |
| Like | i have a truble shot hard | 14:34 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ext4? Yes... deletes on large trees are impressively fast (e.g. linux kernel) | 14:34 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Ext4 can be selected in the Ubiquity desktop installer | 14:34 |
| Like | rhythmbox dont work dont launch the link | 14:34 |
| Like | off any link | 14:34 |
| Like | the suport has faded | 14:35 |
| Like | im out | 14:35 |
| incubii | um ok | 14:36 |
| bardyr | is jaunty going to have kernel 2.6.29? | 14:48 |
| custombrush | so now i will booting jaunty and check updates | 14:51 |
| incubii | bardyr, it looks like it will | 15:07 |
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| unixdawg | ok I just ran the upgrades that came out and they failed. | 15:48 |
| vbgunz | how in the world do you set 256 colors for vim in screen? screen keeps botching my colors down to 8. why? | 15:49 |
| alex-weej | because vim is rubbish, use gedit | 15:51 |
| Volkodav | anybody else has this uprgade that can not be fully installed & | 15:57 |
| gnomefreak | depends on what upgrade you mean | 15:59 |
| Volkodav | well whatever popped up this morning with update manager | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | I used apt-get and it ran all of them | 16:03 |
| Volkodav | some packages are not marked for download and install | 16:03 |
| charlie-tca | I know. Running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ran all of them, though | 16:04 |
| Volkodav | I wonder if I wait or go with partial | 16:04 |
| unixdawg | jaunty is turning out nice | 16:04 |
| rainmanp7 | . | 16:05 |
| unixdawg | I just got realplayer installed and it works great | 16:07 |
| unixdawg | but still need koffice2 | 16:07 |
| fujimitsu | new driver version 180 is active but visual effects will not run. blank screen with a cursor. | 16:07 |
| fujimitsu | had to force a shutdown. it turned unresponsive. but could restart normally without visual effects | 16:08 |
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| fujimitsu | this is nvidia | 16:10 |
| syldeb35 | fujimitsu: known Bug #326344 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 | 16:11 |
| fujimitsu | alright | 16:12 |
| unixdawg | ok mplayer wont install on jaunty | 16:13 |
| Sebastian | Some update from the last 24 hours broke something for me. When GDM starts on my ThinkPad X60s, all I see is a blank screen. Known issue? | 16:17 |
| kuaera | Anyone have any information on enabling desktop window transparency? I feel it might be a driver issue, as I am running "ati" and the composite X extension is loaded. | 16:19 |
| vbgunz | screen doesn't see .screenrc *unless* I use the -c switch to point to it. anyone know why? | 16:21 |
| unixdawg | any idea when mythtv will install and work on jaunty | 16:27 |
| Volkodav | I am getting this error after recent upgrade ==> http://pastie.org/384063 | 16:35 |
| Volkodav | any ideas guys ? | 16:35 |
| rainmanp7 | I got errors where the Nvidia driver wouldn't even let me boot into the desktop | 16:40 |
| Volkodav | happenned too | 16:41 |
| Volkodav | second reboot helped | 16:41 |
| Volkodav | compiz is the least of the concerns really | 16:42 |
| Volkodav | something you can live without | 16:42 |
| Volkodav | that's for sure | 16:42 |
| fujimitsu | npviewer just crashed web surfing | 16:58 |
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| nblracer | hello i was on earlyer this morning, reporting a problem with X, just wont to state that i was able to use the workaround provided | 17:28 |
| ^hashbang^ | I just installed Alpha 4 amd64 and I can't for the life of me get the 173, 177, or the 180 drivers to work. I can logon to GDM but then my screen goes to a black background, and a mouse arrow and nothing else happens. if I go to a console I can see that the gnome bar has started, along with other gnomeish bits.. | 17:36 |
| ^hashbang^ | | 17:36 |
| ^hashbang^ | nvidia card that is =) | 17:36 |
| ^hashbang^ | any idea's? thoughts... | 17:37 |
| nblracer | hmm yes | 17:37 |
| ^hashbang^ | cool ok.. | 17:37 |
| ^hashbang^ | what? | 17:37 |
| nblracer | i had a simmilar problem and there is know bug with nvidia, Some one gave me the link, to the work around | 17:38 |
| ^hashbang^ | btw, this is a quadro fs 560 | 17:38 |
| nblracer | let me look though the logs | 17:38 |
| ^hashbang^ | ok cool, ty | 17:38 |
| nblracer | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061919 | 17:39 |
| ^hashbang^ | ty, i'm reading now =) | 17:39 |
| nblracer | how ever that was not my problem | 17:39 |
| nblracer | mine was this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871 | 17:40 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 304871 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845G] Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer (Jaunty)" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 17:40 |
| nblracer | thats if you had a intel vid card, so dont worry about that | 17:40 |
| ^hashbang^ | ok | 17:40 |
| ^hashbang^ | funny enough, I didn't see any errors... just a black background... and I didn't have compiz enabled. I had just installed from apt-get and then rebooted... | 17:41 |
| ^hashbang^ | ah so it's a compiz and glx driver issue? | 17:42 |
| ^hashbang^ | hmm | 17:42 |
| nblracer | i think compiz is on by defult | 17:42 |
| ^hashbang^ | ok well, let me try it again... thanks for the link | 17:42 |
| maxb | ^hashbang^: bug 326344 | 17:42 |
| nblracer | np | 17:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 | 17:42 |
| nblracer | if there a highly recomended GUI for xorg.conf? | 17:45 |
| ^hashbang^ | ok brb | 17:46 |
| maxb | nblracer: Your favourite text editor! :-) | 17:46 |
| * charlie-tca thought gedit would be the wrong answer... | 17:48 | |
| maco | vim? | 17:49 |
| maco | er, gui....uh....gvim? | 17:49 |
| * syockit vims | 17:50 | |
| charlie-tca | yeah, gvim for gui | 17:57 |
| ^hashbang^ | cool guys that worked | 18:00 |
| ^hashbang^ | export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 did the trick | 18:00 |
| vbgunz | compositing is broken in the latest jaunty. been like this for several days. anyone know whats going on? | 18:07 |
| maco | vbgunz: be more specific | 18:07 |
| maco | what video driver? | 18:08 |
| vbgunz | maco: I enable effects, I see the login wallpaper, and boom, stuck ... nothing happens at all. I have to edit .kde/share/config/kwinrc and disable compositing, restart X just to get it work again | 18:08 |
| vbgunz | Nvidias 180.22 I believe | 18:08 |
| maco | ok so it could be kwin or nvidia | 18:08 |
| maco | lemme install myupdates and ill tell if it affects my intel system | 18:09 |
| vbgunz | maco: I have an AMD system if it makes a difference :) | 18:09 |
| vbgunz | effects were working fine until a few days ago. I don't know why, but effects make everything feel faster | 18:11 |
| zdobersek | Is anybody having a working wireless connection in Jaunty Alpha4? With Belkin's USB adapter, NetworkManager appears to be connected to the wifi network with ~90% signal strength, but no packages seem to transmit and loading any page in firefox fails. Anybody having same problem or even solution for it? | 18:12 |
| vbgunz | zdobersek: are you mac filtering on the router? just curious. my only tip really :| | 18:13 |
| maco | zdobersek: did you use wireshark to confirm that no packets are moving? | 18:13 |
| zdobersek | maco: I saw incredibly low amount of packages receives/sent when looking at wlan0 connection properties. | 18:14 |
| maco | can you try doing "sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop" then connect using iwconfig? | 18:15 |
| nikolam | HI. Can I add EXT4 support to my current Hardy install? | 18:16 |
| nikolam | liko compile module or soemthing? | 18:17 |
| BUGabundo | nikolam: you are better asking in #ubuntu-server | 18:17 |
| BUGabundo | nikolam: you are better asking in #ubuntu-kernel | 18:17 |
| BUGabundo | or the kernel ML | 18:17 |
| maco | sounds like a bad idea... | 18:18 |
| maco | defnitely need to move the data and copyit back if you DO do it | 18:18 |
| fujimitsu | firefox is behaving pretty well. i'll even postpone installing galeon | 18:18 |
| vbgunz | I would love to convert my ext3 to ext4 ... I just haven't found a definitive up-to-date trusted guide or walkthrough on it :/ | 18:19 |
| vbgunz | maco: I just did an update that requires a reboot, maybe this will fix it? | 18:19 |
| vbgunz | one sec, going to check for latest nvidia drivers | 18:19 |
| fujimitsu | convert? wouldnt you have to check off that option on installation | 18:19 |
| nikolam | maco, I am not using ext4 for anything but testing jaunty on another partition | 18:20 |
| nikolam | I know ext4 is not recommended in present time for default fs | 18:20 |
| vbgunz | fujimitsu: yeah, you can do it like that but I believe it is also possible to "convert" ab exisiting ext3 installation | 18:20 |
| nikolam | I just want access to ext4 from hardy | 18:20 |
| maco | fujimitsu: you can move teh data off it, format the partition, and move the data back on. it cannot upgrade in-place because the inode sizes change (or something like that) | 18:21 |
| maco | nikolam: might wnat to wait til they figure out that thing where files saved on ext | 18:21 |
| maco | on ext4 magically become 0-byte files | 18:21 |
| fujimitsu | right. that sounds more like the way to do it. but since i dont know how much time vs. doing a fresh install... well | 18:22 |
| vbgunz | going to reboot | 18:22 |
| vbgunz | brb | 18:22 |
| nikolam | maco yes, ext4 is not god for use now, bur read only or something is ok for me. | 18:22 |
| fujimitsu | when is that web integration thing happening (havent checked milestone) | 18:24 |
| maco | web integration? | 18:24 |
| fujimitsu | well.. thats what jaunty is about fast startup and web apps from desktop type thing.. i guess i have to read some more | 18:25 |
| fujimitsu | one thing i know for sure.. its still not faster than 8.10 startup yet | 18:26 |
| _MMA_ | Any ides why desktop effects cannot be enabled on Intel 82852/855GM atm? | 18:27 |
| fujimitsu | visual effects are a no-go even on nvidia driver version 180 | 18:29 |
| _MMA_ | fujimitsu: Ok. Haven't tested Jaunty on nVidia yet. Thanx for the heads up. | 18:30 |
| Alexia_Death | fujimitsu: visual effects are entirely a go. but not with alpha4. | 18:30 |
| Alexia_Death | the X in that version is buggy. two versions back works nice. | 18:31 |
| vbgunz | maco: I just upgraded the kernel, reinstalled the nvidia driver and kwin compositing still doesn't work. I see the login screen, login, and the default splash freezes with the last 3 items still fuzzy :/ | 18:31 |
| * Alexia_Death is using kwin with visual effects. | 18:31 | |
| fujimitsu | driver is active.. just cannot enable visual effects properly | 18:31 |
| vbgunz | Alexia_Death: you're having problems with compositing too? | 18:31 |
| andersk | bug 326344 | 18:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 | 18:31 |
| Alexia_Death | vbgunz: known bug | 18:31 |
| maxb | Alexia_Death: 3 versions back now | 18:32 |
| vbgunz | awesome, link? | 18:32 |
| Alexia_Death | maxb: Still there? | 18:32 |
| maxb | Well, I'm extrapolating from the changelog not touching anything relevant at all | 18:32 |
| Alexia_Death | fujimitsu: I could not enable it either some time back but it does work wuith 180.27 and the xorg version that ended in 1ubuntu0 | 18:32 |
| andersk | 0ubuntu1. It’s all in the bug report. | 18:33 |
| vbgunz | am going to try it without direct rendering... see what happens | 18:34 |
| vbgunz | if I log out, something went horribly wrong, call police! | 18:34 |
| vbgunz | hmm, disabling direct rendering works | 18:35 |
| vbgunz | I see my shadows and things are smooth :) | 18:35 |
| Alexia_Death | doesnt disabling direct rendering kill performance? | 18:36 |
| vbgunz | Alexia_Death: not sure, it seems good so far *but* I believe it should | 18:39 |
| unixdawg | ok having a issue on jaunty with oss/alsa/arts fighting for audio | 18:39 |
| unixdawg | cant get any softphone to work | 18:39 |
| ryoushi19 | anyone having trouble starting gnome on 9.04? | 18:40 |
| ryoushi19 | Like, I actually can't start gnome whatsoever the normal way. I have use a failsafe terminal session, start gnome-panel, go in and start the network manager and metacity, etc etc. | 18:42 |
| ryoushi19 | it's kind of a pain. | 18:42 |
| ryoushi19 | and then my sound doesn't even work. | 18:43 |
| ryoushi19 | anyone have any suggestions at all? | 18:43 |
| maco | evolution is using 99% CPU on trying to send an email | 18:43 |
| maco | it uses 38% just sitting there, then i hit send and it spikes to 101% then settles down to 98% | 18:44 |
| ryoushi19 | so, does anyone know any way to get gnome to start normally? | 18:47 |
| maxb | bug 326344 | 18:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 | 18:47 |
| maco | as opposed to abnormally? | 18:47 |
| custombrush | by putting this line in your ~/.gnomerc: | 18:48 |
| custombrush | export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 it works | 18:48 |
| maco | what about for kde users? | 18:48 |
| histo | ryoushi19: ctrl+alt+f1 kill compiz.real then switch back | 18:48 |
| ryoushi19 | well, starting abnormally would be having to open an xterm session, starting gnome panel, then starting everything else from there. | 18:48 |
| ryoushi19 | but thank you for your suggestions, I'll try them. | 18:48 |
| histo | Just basically kill compiz.real and it works for the time being. | 18:48 |
| maco | check your xsession-errors because gnome-session sounds like not running | 18:48 |
| maco | sure you didnt choose Run Xclient Script? | 18:48 |
| ryoushi19 | no, I chose failsafe terminal. | 18:49 |
| ryoushi19 | to get it to actually work. | 18:49 |
| maco | er....well that's what a failsafe terminal is supposed to be like... | 18:49 |
| ryoushi19 | well, yes, I know. I'm saying that was what I did to work around it. the normal gnome session wouldn't start. | 18:49 |
| ryoushi19 | and I was starting the normal gnome session. | 18:49 |
| maco | what happens when you try to start the nomral one? | 18:51 |
| ryoushi19 | K, the whole "kill compiz.real from a terminal" thing didn't work out. what were the other methods again? | 18:59 |
| kulight | i have moved to jaunty today every thing went well except when trying to enable nvidia 173 drivers it installs well but when booting up again i get only the desktop wallpaper and nothing else. any idea's ? | 19:03 |
| kulight | !Bug 326215 | 19:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326215 in ubuntu "After today's updates I can't log in" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326215 | 19:04 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about Bug 326215 | 19:04 |
| andersk | It's happening to everyone. bug 326344. (Which I think I might have just figured out, by the way!) | 19:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 | 19:04 |
| andersk | I'm currently testing a debdif that should fix it. | 19:04 |
| kulight | yay :) | 19:04 |
| andersk | We'll know as soon as xorg finishes building... | 19:05 |
| kulight | i'll wait ill help test if you want | 19:05 |
| kulight | there is pretty big performance boost... | 19:07 |
| histo | kulight: ON WHAT? | 19:07 |
| kulight | jaunty jeneral fell | 19:07 |
| kulight | feel | 19:07 |
| histo | no big performance boost on what jaunty? | 19:08 |
| histo | with the new kernel and xorg? | 19:08 |
| histo | I don't see it. | 19:08 |
| kulight | no just the general feel of the system compare to intrepid | 19:08 |
| kulight | histo: ^ | 19:09 |
| maco | anyone reproduce: evolution uses ~ 100% CPU trying to send signed mails then fails to sign/send them anyway? | 19:10 |
| custombrush | i use thunderbird | 19:10 |
| maco | well that doesnt count... | 19:10 |
| andersk | Hmm. That debdiff didn't work. I'll keep looking. | 19:12 |
| maxb | Could the "increase max clients" thing get reverted temporarily? | 19:34 |
| maco | maxb: what? | 19:37 |
| maxb | bug 326344 | 19:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 | 19:39 |
| CoreyOn | Hello, I just updated my system (already had Jaunty) and now when I restart I get a black screen, and it'll never load the log in menu. I've read this is a problem with the latest xorg version. However I can't fix this, as no matter what I do it's stuck on this black screen. | 19:46 |
| maxb | Is your graphics hardware nvidia? Do you not even get to the login screen? | 19:47 |
| CoreyOn | It is nvidia, no I can't get to the login screen | 19:47 |
| CoreyOn | Even tried changing my xorg.conf in a live cd to the driver mode as nv, that didnt work as well | 19:48 |
| histo | CoreyOn: try safe graphics mode | 19:48 |
| kulight | CoreyOn: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 19:49 |
| maxb | hrm, this is sounding somewhat different to what other people are experiencing | 19:49 |
| CoreyOn | I've read fixes for this problem, I can't seem to get out of the black screen | 19:49 |
| CoreyOn | How do I get to safe graphics mode? | 19:49 |
| histo | Your botting the live cd or this is on your hd? | 19:50 |
| maxb | I suggest first attempting a rollback of the troublesome xserver update: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.5.99.902-0ubuntu1_*.deb | 19:50 |
| CoreyOn | hard drive | 19:50 |
| histo | CoreyOn: oh kill compiz.real | 19:50 |
| CoreyOn | maxb: I cant get out of the black screen -> meaning I can't get to a terminal | 19:50 |
| histo | CoreyOn: boot up hit ctrl+alt+F1 the ps aux | grep compiz find hte pid number sudo kill thatpid then ctrl+alt+f7 | 19:50 |
| maxb | You can't even switch to a text VT ? | 19:50 |
| CoreyOn | i've tried ctrl+alt+f1, that doesnt do anything either | 19:51 |
| CoreyOn | still is a black screen | 19:51 |
| CoreyOn | it might be different from what other people said because it's loading kubuntu, with the kdm instead of gdm | 19:52 |
| histo | CoreyOn: well right now there is a problem with compiz and nvidia | 19:53 |
| CoreyOn | I knew this, but nobody else mentioned that they couldn't get to the terminal, where I can't seem to do it | 19:53 |
| histo | bug 326344 | 19:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 | 19:54 |
| histo | Try booting to recover mode. | 19:54 |
| maxb | CoreyOn: What about booting, choosing the recovery mode option at the bootloader menu? | 19:54 |
| CoreyOn | Ok, but these people can get to the terminal | 19:54 |
| CoreyOn | also i've tried recovery mode, that didnt do anything either | 19:55 |
| maxb | Define "not do anything" | 19:55 |
| CoreyOn | black screen | 19:55 |
| CoreyOn | blank | 19:55 |
| CoreyOn | nothing | 19:55 |
| maxb | Well, I don't think recovery mode even goes into X, does it? | 19:56 |
| CoreyOn | sorry, i meant when it does boot after | 19:56 |
| maxb | Well, get a text mode prompt via recovery mode and fix things there, then | 19:56 |
| CoreyOn | it gives me the menu of choices, i've tried the one that trys to fix the graphics | 19:56 |
| CoreyOn | that didnt fix it | 19:56 |
| maxb | BTW, I've pushed a package with the troublesome patch reverted to my PPA. | 19:57 |
| CoreyOn | which option is that? | 19:57 |
| maxb | Binaries haven't been published yet, I expect they will be at the top-of-the-hour publisher run. | 19:57 |
| CoreyOn | how do i get to the prompt from recovery mode? | 19:58 |
| maxb | Doesn't it just give you that option? | 19:58 |
| CoreyOn | i dont remember it being there, i guss i'll try it again | 19:58 |
| CoreyOn | if i do get in, what command shoudl i type? | 19:59 |
| CoreyOn | i'm not using compiz, its kwin | 19:59 |
| kulight | CoreyOn: ןאד םמ ערונ צקמו | 19:59 |
| kulight | CoreyOn: its on grub menu | 20:00 |
| CoreyOn | kulight, i cant see that text | 20:00 |
| kulight | when booting up you dont see anything ? | 20:00 |
| CoreyOn | Yes, I see my bootup screen as normal | 20:01 |
| CoreyOn | CoreyOn: ןאד םמ ערונ צקמו that I cannot read | 20:01 |
| kulight | oh sorry its the wrong lang (im switching between chats) | 20:02 |
| CoreyUn | ok so i'm in root via the recovery option, what command should i use now? | 20:09 |
| kulight | CoreyUn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 20:10 |
| maxb | Maybe try rolling back to the earlier x server first? | 20:11 |
| maxb | dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.5.99.902-0ubuntu1_*.deb | 20:11 |
| maxb | assuming it's still in cache | 20:11 |
| CoreyUn | ok well it says xserver=xorg isnt installed | 20:11 |
| maxb | The name is xserver-xorg-core | 20:15 |
| CoreyUn | yes yours worked, i'm retarting now to see if its fixed | 20:15 |
| CoreyUn | nice its working | 20:16 |
| CoreyUn | ok new problem, i can now login, but once i try logging into kde, it'll try to log in, and then go back to the login window... however i can log into gnome | 20:19 |
| unixdawg | ok having random lockups in jaunty | 20:24 |
| unixdawg | runs fine then I open seamonkey or another app and it locks the system up | 20:24 |
| _VIM_ | are there no Kubuntu version of Jaunty? When i go to this site, none of them are labeled Kubuntu, only Ubuntu-desktop-i386-iso | 20:58 |
| _VIM_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-4/ | 20:59 |
| BUGabundo | _VIM_: | 20:59 |
| BUGabundo | !daily | 20:59 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 20:59 |
| BUGabundo | _VIM_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 21:00 |
| _VIM_ | ok i was going by the site in the topic :D | 21:00 |
| _VIM_ | lol they're labeled the same | 21:01 |
| _VIM_ | they should have the word kubuntu in them :/ | 21:02 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 21:10 |
| BUGabundo | I had to change my rsync scripts | 21:10 |
| bardyr_ | Hey, does anybody else have a problem with compiz feezing the desktop environment? | 21:11 |
| andersk | Everyone. | 21:11 |
| andersk | bug 326344 | 21:11 |
| bardyr_ | kk | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 21:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 | 21:12 |
| bardyr_ | #326344 | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | andersk: eheh already on trigger? | 21:12 |
| maco | any evolution users experiencing extremely high cpu load when attempting to sign emails? | 21:12 |
| andersk | PGP sign? No, seems to work fine for me. | 21:13 |
| geser | does somebody know what's the current way to setup the (gstreamer) audiosink in jaunty? I used till now gnome-sound-properties but it seems to be gone. | 21:15 |
| BUGabundo | is there even sound working?? | 21:15 |
| maco | sound works for me in kde...' | 21:16 |
| maco | have not rebooted today though | 21:16 |
| BUGabundo | maco: are you on jaunty now? | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | I have to kill PA a few times just for it to connect | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | and then it fails to accept connections from any other app, other then the 1st | 21:18 |
| geser | I can use totem to play some mp4 from youtube, but I don't use PA but plain alsa | 21:19 |
| geser | but I don't know where I can change from analog output to digital output | 21:20 |
| geser | trying PA to get sound on both analog and digital output at the same time is on my TODO list | 21:20 |
| maco | BUGabundo: note the "kde" part of that | 21:20 |
| maco | kde doesnt use pulse | 21:21 |
| maco | BUGabundo: if youre only getting connections from the first app, i really doubt pulse is in use | 21:21 |
| maco | thats what happens when you use pure alsa with no dmix | 21:21 |
| maco | andersk: its using 100% cpu for a few minutes before finally bringing up the passphrase box. then i enter the passphrase correctly. then it always tells me i did it wrong. | 21:22 |
| andersk | maco: Yeah, I definitely don't see that problem. | 21:24 |
| maco | :-/ wonder if evo's having troube using gpg-agent instead of seahorse-agent... it *should* work. it worked yesterday. | 21:25 |
| hggdh | maco, my experience is that gpg-agent slightly clobbers seahorse-agent (so I was getting the KDE password dialog instead of the Gnome one). But I do not know what else could happen | 21:27 |
| quentusrex | Can someone tell me how to delete a gconf tree? | 21:28 |
| quentusrex | I have a f***ing piece of software that improperly wrote to gconf, and now I can't remove it... I can't remove the tree.... | 21:28 |
| maco | hggdh: for some reason im getting the gnome one today. i guess evo is trying to use the not-running seahorse-agent even though it is *perfectly capable* of using gpg-agent...as it did before seahorse-agent existed | 21:29 |
| quentusrex | and the gconftool-2 --recursive-unset won't unset all of the keys... only half of them.... I need to delete the tree.... | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | quentusrex: gconf-editor ?? | 21:29 |
| maco | BUGabundo: gconf-editor cant do that | 21:29 |
| maco | it can delete individual keys, but not folders | 21:29 |
| quentusrex | yeah, I need to delete whole folders.... | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | dunno | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | welcome RAOF | 21:32 |
| quentusrex | ARGHHH.... | 21:40 |
| quentusrex | Why would there be something that the root user can't erase??? | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | this is nice! | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | :(((((( | 21:40 |
| quentusrex | what's the grep command to search for text in a directory of files recurisvly? | 21:51 |
| andersk | -r | 21:52 |
| quentusrex | I mean look inside each of the text files? | 21:54 |
| andersk | You mean look only at text files and not binary files or devices? See --binary-files and --devices in the grep(1) manpage. | 21:56 |
| quentusrex | Will I have to reinstall to get rid of glorified registry errors? | 21:57 |
| quentusrex | andersk: yes, only text files. | 21:57 |
| quentusrex | andersk: just in case you missed the original problem. gconf won't allow me to delete a particular tree... I need to delete the directory. | 21:57 |
| quentusrex | and I'm told it might do this if there is a default setting for gconf somewhere, but gconf won't tell me where that damn file is, or even if there is one.... | 21:58 |
| quentusrex | So because of the inability to delete a gconf directory I might have to install.... :( | 21:58 |
| andersk | You almost certainly don't want to delete the defaults. | 21:59 |
| andersk | You could try reinstalling the package that contains the defaults, if you suspect that the defaults have somehow been messed up. | 21:59 |
| quentusrex | I have purged an application from my system, but the gconf stuff isn't removed... | 21:59 |
| quentusrex | and I have no way to manually remove them. | 21:59 |
| andersk | `dpkg -S /usr/share/gconf/defaults` will print a list of packages that own files in /usr/share/gconf/defaults. | 22:00 |
| andersk | Try reinstalling those packages, then run sudo update-gconf-defaults. | 22:00 |
| quentusrex | the app isn't in there... | 22:01 |
| quentusrex | thanks andersk somehow that worked.... | 22:01 |
| quentusrex | I think it was the update-gconf-defaults... | 22:02 |
| quentusrex | it seems not to do that automatically.... | 22:02 |
| andersk | Which package? | 22:02 |
| quentusrex | I tried to install ekiga 3.0 | 22:03 |
| quentusrex | but that failed... | 22:03 |
| quentusrex | and then I removed it, and tried to install ekiga 2.0 from package, | 22:04 |
| quentusrex | but ekiga 3.0 left 'problems' | 22:04 |
| brucealdridge | running jaunty, ran updated, rebooted, blank screen, can still login/ssh ... just no display. | 22:05 |
| brucealdridge | running jaunty, ran updated, rebooted, blank screen, can still login/ssh ... just no display. | 23:04 |
| quentusrex | is it possible to take a package from jaunty and install it in intrepid? | 23:07 |
| dou213 | hi guys, can somebody help me set up my ftp-server correctly? i am behind my router, trying to connect with FileZilla within the lan on an ubuntu server box, when i connect unencrypted it works just fine, when i do it with SSL it gives me an error: Connection timed out! | 23:14 |
| bernz | dou213, try to avoid cross-posting to unrelated channels -- this is not an appropriate one for general help ;-) | 23:18 |
| bernz | (you can pm me and i can try to suggest some things to help, but i'm not an expert or anything) | 23:18 |
| dou213 | ok thx bernz | 23:19 |
| andersk | quentusrex: Sometimes. | 23:22 |
| andersk | Check the package dependencies for a good approximation of whether it's likely to work. | 23:23 |
| bernz | is jaunty the first release to use a moniker based on a non-existent animal? :-) | 23:55 |
| FFForever | how do i find out what partition windows is? | 23:56 |
| FFForever | (so i can add it to menu.lst | 23:56 |
| FFForever | ) | 23:56 |
| maxb | Try "blkid" | 23:56 |
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