[00:04] ahhh, temporary issue... reboot of the VM solved it [02:04] There is a bug with compiz right now and nvidia [02:04] Just kill compiz.real and you can get in. [02:05] ctrl+alt+F1 killall compiz.real then CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in. [02:41] wow very little activity on this channel for this release? [02:41] are we losing that many users? [02:41] is dinner on the US west coast, and bedtime on the east coast [02:42] and "kids, do your homework that's due monday!" time all across the US [02:42] and its way past bedtime for europe [02:48] I've just never seen this channel so slow with a release at this stage. [02:48] hell even the ubuntu channel is slow [02:49] <|syockit|> it's monday morning in east side of the globe [02:54] !schedule [02:54] A schedule of Jaunty Jackelope (9.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule [03:42] Hi ya people =) [03:43] how can i restore grub from usb?, i installed windows 7 after jaunty =\ [03:49] <|syockit|> Chriz212: mount your root partition somewhere (eg /mnt/ubuntu), mount boot inside the root (eg /mnt/ubuntu/boot) [03:49] <|syockit|> *boot partition [03:50] <|syockit|> Chriz212: i wish I could show you a good page on that [03:51] <|syockit|> Chriz212: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 [03:52] |syockit|i am outta cds =( [03:52] i need to uuse usb =\ [03:52] <|syockit|> no, it's for livecd/liveusb all sorts [03:52] <|syockit|> Chriz212: do you have liveusb? [03:53] liveusb? [03:53] <|syockit|> as long as you can boot, you can fix [03:53] i should be able to boot my usb =) [03:53] <|syockit|> does it have a shell? [03:53] <|syockit|> ubuntu shell of course [03:54] i am on windows 7 =\ [03:54] the usb drive i blank.... [03:54] is* [03:54] <|syockit|> okay, if it's at least 1gb, then use unetbootin to install livecd on it [03:55] <|syockit|> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [03:56] woot brb 3hours.... [03:57] gotta dl ubuntu.... [04:02] <|syockit|> If I only knew a smaller distro with the tools needed... [04:02] <|syockit|> maybe DSL was good enough [04:12] !blueprints [04:12] Want to suggest or discuss ideas of a future project/feature? With Launchpad you can track blueprints (feature specification summaries) from discussion through review, approval, and implementation. See https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth === custombrush_ is now known as custombrush === FunnyLookinHat_ is now known as FunnyLookinHat [04:55] hello all [04:55] how can you recover ubuntu when it is booting only to (initramfs), can anyone help please please please [05:02] how do i regenerate my config for grub to add windows 7? [05:07] FFForever, boot with your ubuntu cd [05:07] open a terminal [05:07] do sudo [05:07] sudo su - [05:07] mount your ubuntu root partition [05:07] example [05:07] if your partition is /dev/sda3 [05:07] mkdir /media/sda3 [05:08] kab i am already in ubuntu =) [05:08] mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 [05:08] bind your dev and proc in /media/sda3 [05:08] cd /media/sda3 [05:08] how do i add run the grub auto configuration? [05:08] mount -t proc proc proc [05:08] then mount your dev [05:09] mount -bind /dev /media/sda3/dev [05:09] after you have that, you chroot your partition sda3 [05:09] chroot /media/sda3 /bin/bash [05:09] and reinstall your grub [05:09] grub-install /dev/sda [05:10] and that's all [05:13] <|syockit|> kab: does it detect win7 partition? [05:13] |syockit|, you need to configure your menu.lst [05:13] in your /boot/grub/menu.lst [05:13] <|syockit|> I take it as no then? [05:13] you need to configure your Windows [05:14] title Your WIndows, XP, Vista, etc [05:14] rootnoverify (hd0,0) [05:14] savedefault [05:14] makeactive [05:14] chainloader +1 [05:14] this is a simple example, but you can get the idea [05:14] where sda1 is a windows partition [05:15] if your windows partition is in sda2 you need to setup your rootnoverifi (hd0,1) [05:26] I got it fixed never mind thank for looking [05:39] anyone successfully installed office 2003? [05:41] clp: appdb.winehq.org [08:26] gah, the gnome plop plop sounds are back!! [08:26] peterz: its a feature [08:26] scizzo-: no its not, its driving me insane [08:27] scizzo-: worst part is, I had them disabled, but they came back after an upgrade [08:28] redisable them? [08:28] maco: that gnome-volume-control doesn't appear to have the switch anymore :/ [08:29] nor could I find anything usable in gconf-editor [08:29] l [08:29] l [08:30] sorry, i just missed krunner [08:30] :-) [08:30] WOAH [08:30] it just went back to the old one [08:30] probably because if you dont use pulseaudio the new one breaks *completely* [08:30] lovely [08:31] I also noticed I don't have to kill pulse anymore, because it stopped starting itself ;-) [08:31] hm gnome-sound-properties doesnt exist anymore? [08:32] not on my machine apparently [08:32] mine either [08:32] I tried apt-cache search, but that didn't find it either [08:32] i dont know what's going on [08:32] and dtchen is sick, so probably sleeping instead of going online all the time. maybe themuso would know? [08:33] what actually generates the plop plop stuff? [08:33] is that gtk? [08:33] or some gnome lib [08:33] i dont know [08:34] right,... because I'm almost at the point where I'm going to leech the source package and teach it to not plop [08:34] of course, that requires knowing which source package... [08:35] uh [08:35] why not just rename the sound file in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ so it cant find it? [08:36] ok, let me do that [08:37] yay, that did it [08:37] rm -rf /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu ftw! [08:37] doh [08:37] er [08:37] now you have no login sounds either you know [08:37] I don't care ;-) [08:37] or the little drums when it tells you "go put in your password" [08:38] oh. um. ok. [08:38] those didn't annoy me as much, because that only happens like rarely [08:50] hi everybody :) jaunty is cool :) [08:52] Hey guys, I just updated my system (already had jaunty) and now when I boot I get a black screen before the login. I have a geforce card, and I'm 100% sure it's something to do with nvidia, can anyone help with this? I've tried changing the driver to nv in xorg.conf, but no luck. [09:02] if nv doesn't work, then I don't think it's just nvidia. but just in case, try vesa [09:12] hi there...I have a problem...when I try to disable vsync or direct rendering in advanced effects menu, effects cannot start. What could be the problem? Should I provide xorg.conf? [09:47] You can't have effects with direct rendering disabled. no comment on vsync though === diehaai is now known as thefish [10:33] I trued in #ubuntu and got no reply... sorry. but I need to know about xforms. I need it to compile echolinux and can't seem to find any help.? please? [10:38] why does it need xforms? no gtk/qt? [10:38] according to the doc's it's required and doesn't compile without it [10:39] there is no gui for the program, it's all command line [10:41] but xforms got something to do with x11 gui [10:41] try libx11-dev [10:44] found it: libforms1-dev [10:44] Sergeant_Pony: pinging you for answer [10:44] ok, cool. I'll give it a shot. thanks [10:44] Sergeant_Pony: sorry it's libforms-dev [10:46] thanks... now hopefully it compiles ;) [10:48] :) it worked. thanks [10:59] good morning everyone [11:22] <|ns|nR8> CPU- +57°C Fan: 4192 RPM | M/B- +39.0°C | GPU- +51°C | HDD- +38°C [11:57] hi i have a problem with ecryptfs [11:59] i installed ecryptfs-utils , i created a second account to test --encrypt-home option, and i could login to the 2nd account butu i couldn't login to my primary [12:00] actually i could login from my virtual terminals but not from GDM, it just return back there [12:01] what i did : uninstall ecryptfs-utils, login through GDM, install ecryptfs-utils and generate passprhase for the primary account [12:01] so both work well now :D === KterinK is now known as dou213 [12:31] greetz === rasta` is now known as schaeuble === schaeuble is now known as rasta === rasta is now known as rasta` [13:03] havinge some problems with Jaunty [13:03] just did an upgrade last night to oo it, and i hate to say it broke my system [13:03] i have a feeling the problem is with X but unsure [13:04] When i boot up it is unresponsice on the login screen [13:04] the user name text and icon are un clear [13:05] I'm also not able to drop down to a terminal screen at this time [13:07] After several tries i was able to login once, but then it froze while loading my user data [13:15] is therea simple way i can repaire this [13:15] or should i down grade? [13:17] nblracer; you might look at this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061919 [13:20] thanks [13:22] nblracer; the forumache post worked for me. [13:23] well it seems like the DPI thing has opened up a huge can of worms [13:25] taking some notes now, and will give it a go in a few [13:26] has Kubuntu Jaunty updating broke? I have not gotten an update in 4 days :/ [13:26] I do sudo apt-get update && upgrade and nothing is coming down. [13:28] ahh getting them now. unusual though. I've tried the last 3 days this being the 4th and I've never seen a development version go a day without an update. things slowing down? [13:31] 27 updates in 4 days :| [13:32] brb, hopefully it fixed kwin compositing crash :) [13:33] brb goinging to try this [13:56] still having problems [13:57] i tried deleting xorg.conf === custombrush_ is now known as custombrush [13:57] and killing compiz [13:58] also im using an intergrated on board vid by intel not nvidia [14:00] my intel video has suddenly become really flaky too [14:00] not to the point of being unusable though [14:01] well my whole sytem seems to lock up [14:01] compix is going really slow and the sound is crackly like it's using 101% cpu... [14:02] but i dont know what my problem is [14:02] a reboot seems to have fixed it actually [14:03] i think it is X, since sometimes when i can enter my PW, i get a black screen of flashing colors, then it locks up [14:11] bah [14:11] i think i fond the probelm [14:23] here is my problem [14:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871 [14:23] Ubuntu bug 304871 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845G] Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer (Jaunty)" [Unknown,Confirmed] [14:24] and it is on the main page of jaunty as a known big [14:24] gug [14:24] baw cant type [14:24] bug! [14:25] may have to down grade :( [14:25] let me try a few things.. [14:31] will jauntys new kernel come with update iwl3945 drivers ? [14:31] Hey, im going to install jaunty on a laptop with two disk in a raid 0 with ext4, the raid is going to hold 2 partitions one for the system one for data. one of the disk are going to have a /boot partition and the other a swap [14:32] has anyone tried this or have any comments? [14:32] i have 4 disks in raid 0 with ext4 running, but its hardware raid [14:32] incubii, did you use the alternative cd? [14:33] yes [14:33] incubii, how is it running? [14:33] i dont know of any other way to install with ext4 [14:33] runs good, no hiccups yet [14:33] file operations feel a little snappier [14:34] i have a truble shot hard [14:34] ext4? Yes... deletes on large trees are impressively fast (e.g. linux kernel) [14:34] Ext4 can be selected in the Ubiquity desktop installer [14:34] rhythmbox dont work dont launch the link [14:34] off any link [14:35] the suport has faded [14:35] im out [14:36] um ok [14:48] is jaunty going to have kernel 2.6.29? [14:51] so now i will booting jaunty and check updates [15:07] bardyr, it looks like it will === KterinK is now known as dou213 [15:48] ok I just ran the upgrades that came out and they failed. [15:49] how in the world do you set 256 colors for vim in screen? screen keeps botching my colors down to 8. why? [15:51] because vim is rubbish, use gedit [15:57] anybody else has this uprgade that can not be fully installed & [15:59] depends on what upgrade you mean [16:02] well whatever popped up this morning with update manager [16:02] yes [16:03] I used apt-get and it ran all of them [16:03] some packages are not marked for download and install [16:04] I know. Running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ran all of them, though [16:04] I wonder if I wait or go with partial [16:04] jaunty is turning out nice [16:05] . [16:07] I just got realplayer installed and it works great [16:07] but still need koffice2 [16:07] new driver version 180 is active but visual effects will not run. blank screen with a cursor. [16:08] had to force a shutdown. it turned unresponsive. but could restart normally without visual effects === ScriptRipper_ is now known as ScriptRipper [16:10] this is nvidia [16:11] fujimitsu: known Bug #326344 [16:11] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [16:12] alright [16:13] ok mplayer wont install on jaunty [16:17] Some update from the last 24 hours broke something for me. When GDM starts on my ThinkPad X60s, all I see is a blank screen. Known issue? [16:19] Anyone have any information on enabling desktop window transparency? I feel it might be a driver issue, as I am running "ati" and the composite X extension is loaded. [16:21] screen doesn't see .screenrc *unless* I use the -c switch to point to it. anyone know why? [16:27] any idea when mythtv will install and work on jaunty [16:35] I am getting this error after recent upgrade ==> http://pastie.org/384063 [16:35] any ideas guys ? [16:40] I got errors where the Nvidia driver wouldn't even let me boot into the desktop [16:41] happenned too [16:41] second reboot helped [16:42] compiz is the least of the concerns really [16:42] something you can live without [16:42] that's for sure [16:58] npviewer just crashed web surfing === sadfasdf is now known as DBO === sadfljsadkfjsa is now known as DBO [17:28] hello i was on earlyer this morning, reporting a problem with X, just wont to state that i was able to use the workaround provided [17:36] <^hashbang^> I just installed Alpha 4 amd64 and I can't for the life of me get the 173, 177, or the 180 drivers to work. I can logon to GDM but then my screen goes to a black background, and a mouse arrow and nothing else happens. if I go to a console I can see that the gnome bar has started, along with other gnomeish bits.. [17:36] <^hashbang^> [17:36] <^hashbang^> nvidia card that is =) [17:37] <^hashbang^> any idea's? thoughts... [17:37] hmm yes [17:37] <^hashbang^> cool ok.. [17:37] <^hashbang^> what? [17:38] i had a simmilar problem and there is know bug with nvidia, Some one gave me the link, to the work around [17:38] <^hashbang^> btw, this is a quadro fs 560 [17:38] let me look though the logs [17:38] <^hashbang^> ok cool, ty [17:39] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061919 [17:39] <^hashbang^> ty, i'm reading now =) [17:39] how ever that was not my problem [17:40] mine was this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871 [17:40] Ubuntu bug 304871 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845G] Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer (Jaunty)" [Unknown,Confirmed] [17:40] thats if you had a intel vid card, so dont worry about that [17:40] <^hashbang^> ok [17:41] <^hashbang^> funny enough, I didn't see any errors... just a black background... and I didn't have compiz enabled. I had just installed from apt-get and then rebooted... [17:42] <^hashbang^> ah so it's a compiz and glx driver issue? [17:42] <^hashbang^> hmm [17:42] i think compiz is on by defult [17:42] <^hashbang^> ok well, let me try it again... thanks for the link [17:42] ^hashbang^: bug 326344 [17:42] np [17:42] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [17:45] if there a highly recomended GUI for xorg.conf? [17:46] <^hashbang^> ok brb [17:46] nblracer: Your favourite text editor! :-) [17:48] * charlie-tca thought gedit would be the wrong answer... [17:49] vim? [17:49] er, gui....uh....gvim? [17:50] * syockit vims [17:57] yeah, gvim for gui [18:00] <^hashbang^> cool guys that worked [18:00] <^hashbang^> export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 did the trick [18:07] compositing is broken in the latest jaunty. been like this for several days. anyone know whats going on? [18:07] vbgunz: be more specific [18:08] what video driver? [18:08] maco: I enable effects, I see the login wallpaper, and boom, stuck ... nothing happens at all. I have to edit .kde/share/config/kwinrc and disable compositing, restart X just to get it work again [18:08] Nvidias 180.22 I believe [18:08] ok so it could be kwin or nvidia [18:09] lemme install myupdates and ill tell if it affects my intel system [18:09] maco: I have an AMD system if it makes a difference :) [18:11] effects were working fine until a few days ago. I don't know why, but effects make everything feel faster [18:12] Is anybody having a working wireless connection in Jaunty Alpha4? With Belkin's USB adapter, NetworkManager appears to be connected to the wifi network with ~90% signal strength, but no packages seem to transmit and loading any page in firefox fails. Anybody having same problem or even solution for it? [18:13] zdobersek: are you mac filtering on the router? just curious. my only tip really :| [18:13] zdobersek: did you use wireshark to confirm that no packets are moving? [18:14] maco: I saw incredibly low amount of packages receives/sent when looking at wlan0 connection properties. [18:15] can you try doing "sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop" then connect using iwconfig? [18:16] HI. Can I add EXT4 support to my current Hardy install? [18:17] liko compile module or soemthing? [18:17] nikolam: you are better asking in #ubuntu-server [18:17] nikolam: you are better asking in #ubuntu-kernel [18:17] or the kernel ML [18:18] sounds like a bad idea... [18:18] defnitely need to move the data and copyit back if you DO do it [18:18] firefox is behaving pretty well. i'll even postpone installing galeon [18:19] I would love to convert my ext3 to ext4 ... I just haven't found a definitive up-to-date trusted guide or walkthrough on it :/ [18:19] maco: I just did an update that requires a reboot, maybe this will fix it? [18:19] one sec, going to check for latest nvidia drivers [18:19] convert? wouldnt you have to check off that option on installation [18:20] maco, I am not using ext4 for anything but testing jaunty on another partition [18:20] I know ext4 is not recommended in present time for default fs [18:20] fujimitsu: yeah, you can do it like that but I believe it is also possible to "convert" ab exisiting ext3 installation [18:20] I just want access to ext4 from hardy [18:21] fujimitsu: you can move teh data off it, format the partition, and move the data back on. it cannot upgrade in-place because the inode sizes change (or something like that) [18:21] nikolam: might wnat to wait til they figure out that thing where files saved on ext [18:21] on ext4 magically become 0-byte files [18:22] right. that sounds more like the way to do it. but since i dont know how much time vs. doing a fresh install... well [18:22] going to reboot [18:22] brb [18:22] maco yes, ext4 is not god for use now, bur read only or something is ok for me. [18:24] when is that web integration thing happening (havent checked milestone) [18:24] web integration? [18:25] well.. thats what jaunty is about fast startup and web apps from desktop type thing.. i guess i have to read some more [18:26] one thing i know for sure.. its still not faster than 8.10 startup yet [18:27] <_MMA_> Any ides why desktop effects cannot be enabled on Intel 82852/855GM atm? [18:29] visual effects are a no-go even on nvidia driver version 180 [18:30] <_MMA_> fujimitsu: Ok. Haven't tested Jaunty on nVidia yet. Thanx for the heads up. [18:30] fujimitsu: visual effects are entirely a go. but not with alpha4. [18:31] the X in that version is buggy. two versions back works nice. [18:31] maco: I just upgraded the kernel, reinstalled the nvidia driver and kwin compositing still doesn't work. I see the login screen, login, and the default splash freezes with the last 3 items still fuzzy :/ [18:31] * Alexia_Death is using kwin with visual effects. [18:31] driver is active.. just cannot enable visual effects properly [18:31] Alexia_Death: you're having problems with compositing too? [18:31] bug 326344 [18:31] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [18:31] vbgunz: known bug [18:32] Alexia_Death: 3 versions back now [18:32] awesome, link? [18:32] maxb: Still there? [18:32] Well, I'm extrapolating from the changelog not touching anything relevant at all [18:32] fujimitsu: I could not enable it either some time back but it does work wuith 180.27 and the xorg version that ended in 1ubuntu0 [18:33] 0ubuntu1. It’s all in the bug report. [18:34] am going to try it without direct rendering... see what happens [18:34] if I log out, something went horribly wrong, call police! [18:35] hmm, disabling direct rendering works [18:35] I see my shadows and things are smooth :) [18:36] doesnt disabling direct rendering kill performance? [18:39] Alexia_Death: not sure, it seems good so far *but* I believe it should [18:39] ok having a issue on jaunty with oss/alsa/arts fighting for audio [18:39] cant get any softphone to work [18:40] anyone having trouble starting gnome on 9.04? [18:42] Like, I actually can't start gnome whatsoever the normal way. I have use a failsafe terminal session, start gnome-panel, go in and start the network manager and metacity, etc etc. [18:42] it's kind of a pain. [18:43] and then my sound doesn't even work. [18:43] anyone have any suggestions at all? [18:43] evolution is using 99% CPU on trying to send an email [18:44] it uses 38% just sitting there, then i hit send and it spikes to 101% then settles down to 98% [18:47] so, does anyone know any way to get gnome to start normally? [18:47] bug 326344 [18:47] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [18:47] as opposed to abnormally? [18:48] by putting this line in your ~/.gnomerc: [18:48] export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 it works [18:48] what about for kde users? [18:48] ryoushi19: ctrl+alt+f1 kill compiz.real then switch back [18:48] well, starting abnormally would be having to open an xterm session, starting gnome panel, then starting everything else from there. [18:48] but thank you for your suggestions, I'll try them. [18:48] Just basically kill compiz.real and it works for the time being. [18:48] check your xsession-errors because gnome-session sounds like not running [18:48] sure you didnt choose Run Xclient Script? [18:49] no, I chose failsafe terminal. [18:49] to get it to actually work. [18:49] er....well that's what a failsafe terminal is supposed to be like... [18:49] well, yes, I know. I'm saying that was what I did to work around it. the normal gnome session wouldn't start. [18:49] and I was starting the normal gnome session. [18:51] what happens when you try to start the nomral one? [18:59] K, the whole "kill compiz.real from a terminal" thing didn't work out. what were the other methods again? [19:03] i have moved to jaunty today every thing went well except when trying to enable nvidia 173 drivers it installs well but when booting up again i get only the desktop wallpaper and nothing else. any idea's ? [19:04] !Bug 326215 [19:04] Launchpad bug 326215 in ubuntu "After today's updates I can't log in" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326215 [19:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about Bug 326215 [19:04] It's happening to everyone. bug 326344. (Which I think I might have just figured out, by the way!) [19:04] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [19:04] I'm currently testing a debdif that should fix it. [19:04] yay :) [19:05] We'll know as soon as xorg finishes building... [19:05] i'll wait ill help test if you want [19:07] there is pretty big performance boost... [19:07] kulight: ON WHAT? [19:07] jaunty jeneral fell [19:07] feel [19:08] no big performance boost on what jaunty? [19:08] with the new kernel and xorg? [19:08] I don't see it. [19:08] no just the general feel of the system compare to intrepid [19:09] histo: ^ [19:10] anyone reproduce: evolution uses ~ 100% CPU trying to send signed mails then fails to sign/send them anyway? [19:10] i use thunderbird [19:10] well that doesnt count... [19:12] Hmm. That debdiff didn't work. I'll keep looking. [19:34] Could the "increase max clients" thing get reverted temporarily? [19:37] maxb: what? [19:39] bug 326344 [19:39] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [19:46] Hello, I just updated my system (already had Jaunty) and now when I restart I get a black screen, and it'll never load the log in menu. I've read this is a problem with the latest xorg version. However I can't fix this, as no matter what I do it's stuck on this black screen. [19:47] Is your graphics hardware nvidia? Do you not even get to the login screen? [19:47] It is nvidia, no I can't get to the login screen [19:48] Even tried changing my xorg.conf in a live cd to the driver mode as nv, that didnt work as well [19:48] CoreyOn: try safe graphics mode [19:49] CoreyOn: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [19:49] hrm, this is sounding somewhat different to what other people are experiencing [19:49] I've read fixes for this problem, I can't seem to get out of the black screen [19:49] How do I get to safe graphics mode? [19:50] Your botting the live cd or this is on your hd? [19:50] I suggest first attempting a rollback of the troublesome xserver update: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.5.99.902-0ubuntu1_*.deb [19:50] hard drive [19:50] CoreyOn: oh kill compiz.real [19:50] maxb: I cant get out of the black screen -> meaning I can't get to a terminal [19:50] CoreyOn: boot up hit ctrl+alt+F1 the ps aux | grep compiz find hte pid number sudo kill thatpid then ctrl+alt+f7 [19:50] You can't even switch to a text VT ? [19:51] i've tried ctrl+alt+f1, that doesnt do anything either [19:51] still is a black screen [19:52] it might be different from what other people said because it's loading kubuntu, with the kdm instead of gdm [19:53] CoreyOn: well right now there is a problem with compiz and nvidia [19:53] I knew this, but nobody else mentioned that they couldn't get to the terminal, where I can't seem to do it [19:54] bug 326344 [19:54] Launchpad bug 326344 in xorg-server "compiz/kwin freezes on login as of xorg-server 1.5.99.902-0ubuntu2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326344 [19:54] Try booting to recover mode. [19:54] CoreyOn: What about booting, choosing the recovery mode option at the bootloader menu? [19:54] Ok, but these people can get to the terminal [19:55] also i've tried recovery mode, that didnt do anything either [19:55] Define "not do anything" [19:55] black screen [19:55] blank [19:55] nothing [19:56] Well, I don't think recovery mode even goes into X, does it? [19:56] sorry, i meant when it does boot after [19:56] Well, get a text mode prompt via recovery mode and fix things there, then [19:56] it gives me the menu of choices, i've tried the one that trys to fix the graphics [19:56] that didnt fix it [19:57] BTW, I've pushed a package with the troublesome patch reverted to my PPA. [19:57] which option is that? [19:57]