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| crevette | good morning | 08:16 |
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| didrocks | morning crevette o/ | 08:23 |
| crevette | salut didrocks | 08:24 |
| crevette | salut seb128 | 08:33 |
| seb128 | lut crevette | 08:34 |
| didrocks | plop seb128 :) | 08:37 |
| mvo | good morning seb128 | 08:37 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:37 |
| seb128 | hey mvo | 08:37 |
| mvo | hey crevette, didrocks | 08:37 |
| crevette | hello mvo | 08:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks: had fun at fosdem this weekend? | 08:37 |
| seb128 | mvo: did you have a nice travelling back? | 08:38 |
| didrocks | hi mvo | 08:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh yeah, it was really fun :) | 08:38 |
| crevette | who is managing the bluez package usually, because it uses bzr for the packaging and it wasn't updatd for a while? As I did few of the last upstream update I wanted to push the changes | 08:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: I have a message for you from vuntz: "you are not kind at all for not coming" :) | 08:39 |
| seb128 | ah ah ah | 08:39 |
| mvo | seb128: yes, slept half of it :) so it went by pretty fast | 08:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: I met james_w, keybuck, and some other (but few) canonical boy. | 08:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks: lool was there too no? | 08:40 |
| mvo | I do a clutter update in my ppa and will package metacity-clutter - or did anyone look at this already? | 08:40 |
| didrocks | so, appart from sharing my room for 2 days with huats, everything were really enjoyable | 08:40 |
| didrocks | (joking :)) | 08:40 |
| mvo | haha | 08:40 |
| crevette | :) | 08:40 |
| seb128 | mvo: the mail from pitti suggested that the code is no ready to be shipped yet | 08:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I just saw him, but not talk with him | 08:40 |
| seb128 | oh, huats was there too | 08:40 |
| mvo | I would have loved to come, but it conflicts with the sprint for me | 08:41 |
| * pitti hugs seb128, mvo, and didrocks, good morning | 08:41 | |
| seb128 | I'm wondering if he will manage to get this gnome-keyring update done one day ;-) | 08:41 |
| seb128 | he's working on it for 3 weeks now | 08:41 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 08:41 | |
| didrocks | Hi pitti :) | 08:41 |
| mvo | seb128, pitti: the mail I have about metacity-clutter is that someone should have a look at it, no? | 08:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: well. He fights with it :) Even he asks something about it to vuntz | 08:41 |
| pitti | mvo: just whether someone has an opinion about its readiness | 08:42 |
| didrocks | seb128: I know that his libgda update is ready, but he does not know how to test it | 08:42 |
| pitti | mvo: if you want to play around with it, I won't stop you, of course :-P | 08:42 |
| mvo | :) | 08:42 |
| mvo | I will, should be quick (I hope) | 08:42 |
| * crevette is working on libopenobex-1.4 and he has some pain :) | 08:42 | |
| seb128 | mvo: there is an another thread going where you are not cc-ed, and pitti states that's mirco said it's not ready to be used yet | 08:42 |
| mvo | aha | 08:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks: to be honest I don't care about libgda, gnome-desktop is stopping GNOME updates where libgda is not really used | 08:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: appart for my python-gnome-extras update :) | 08:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks: btw were you supposed to work on the gnome-python update too? | 08:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, I will do it tonight, as well as on gtkmm | 08:44 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:44 |
| didrocks | but I fell that gtkmm will be a pain as everything is patched inline... | 08:44 |
| seb128 | ? | 08:44 |
| mvo | james_w: hi! I hope you had a good trip. did you seed apt-transport-https already? if not, I can do it here | 08:44 |
| seb128 | it's not | 08:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure ? Let me look at the diff.gz | 08:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks: it's package in the pkg-gnome svn where only the debian directory is stored so if there is changes not in the diff.gz that's an error | 08:45 |
| seb128 | mvo, pitti: btw extra hand on desktop sponsoring are welcome if you have some time this week, I've been fighting the queue a bit during the sprint but there is still lot | 08:47 |
| pitti | right, on my list | 08:47 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 08:47 | |
| pitti | seb128: I'm currently fixing pkgstriptranslations to not break the publisher on parallel builds | 08:47 |
| * crevette is feeding the sponsoring queue | 08:47 | |
| crevette | :) | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: I think the buildds set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel or so | 08:47 |
| seb128 | pitti: oh, you found the bug? | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: which makes glib2.0 create broken translations.tar.gz | 08:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115888/ | 08:48 |
| mvo | seb128: sure, is all on the sponsoring queue? | 08:48 |
| seb128 | mvo: yes | 08:48 |
| pitti | seb128: looking at the build log and debian/rules, it's the only explanation I have (things do run in parallel there) | 08:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: there is a lot of autotools changes but also other one (like gtkmm-1.2.10/src/gtk--/base.h | 08:48 |
| seb128 | mvo: just pick anything on dholbach's page if you want, I commented on totem-pl-parser but didn't start on it so you can do and totem or anything else there | 08:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks: it just seems that whoever did the previous update screwed his autoreconf patch build | 08:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: can autoreconf changes .h files? | 08:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks: is it using a patch system or not? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks: why not, if there is a corresponding .in and a rule to update those or if those are automatically build by some tools | 08:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's not using one apparently (I have to check further, btw) | 08:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: as we are in sync with debian, setup one is not a great idea, is it? | 08:51 |
| seb128 | didrocks: the 2.14.1 copy on my disk uses simple-patchsys in its rules | 08:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, so, I will run it and make it clean | 08:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok good | 08:52 |
| lool | didrocks: You should have said hi! | 09:05 |
| crevette | hello lool | 09:06 |
| lool | Hey | 09:06 |
| seb128 | lut lool | 09:13 |
| seb128 | lool: how was fosdem this year? | 09:13 |
| lool | It was packed with people, but I saw less familiar faces as usually | 09:15 |
| lool | I was relatively unlucky in my talk attendance in that the interesting ones were happening together and the others I had seen a couple of times already | 09:16 |
| lool | But it was great to see a bunch of people and some interesting presentations nevertheless! | 09:16 |
| lool | Less so to get my luggage stolen afterwards though | 09:16 |
| mvo | lool: oh? someone stole your stuff :( ? | 09:17 |
| mvo | at fosdem? | 09:17 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 09:19 |
| huats | hello seb128 | 09:19 |
| seb128 | huats: how is gnome-keyring going? | 09:19 |
| lool | mvo: No, in the train station :-/ | 09:19 |
| huats | seb128: not much to say | 09:20 |
| seb128 | lool: oh :-( | 09:20 |
| lool | With some dev hardware in it unfortunately (as I wasn't flying) | 09:20 |
| huats | the upstream seems to be unable to fix the LDFLAGS stuffs | 09:20 |
| mvo | lool: right, that sucks :( | 09:20 |
| lool | In practice, I didn't lose any non-replaceable stuff or personal or company data, but I did lose some expensive devices sadly | 09:21 |
| * seb128 hugs lool | 09:23 | |
| seb128 | not lucky | 09:23 |
| * seb128 notes to not let unattended luggage at train station either | 09:24 | |
| lool | It was on my side, like 2 cms away (really) but I was buying a book in a press shop and the guy just took it as if it was his | 09:25 |
| lool | I noticed 30 seconds later, but outside everybody has a luggage | 09:26 |
| didrocks | lool: I am so shy, you know :p But I will not miss next time, promess (I just saw you far far away on the opening conf) | 09:26 |
| huats | lool: oh... that sucks ! | 09:26 |
| didrocks | lool: In Bruxelles train station? | 09:27 |
| didrocks | lool: yeah, that really sucks :/ | 09:28 |
| lool | didrocks: Yes, in Bruxelles Midi | 09:28 |
| crevette | salut huats | 09:46 |
| seb128 | pitti: btw http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/seahorse?view=revision&revision=2774 | 09:48 |
| seb128 | crevette: you are working on the obex server update? | 09:50 |
| crevette | obex-data-server ? done, and in lp | 09:50 |
| huats | hello crevette | 09:50 |
| seb128 | crevette: ah cool, I though other libs updates were required | 09:50 |
| crevette | it needs eventually libopenobex 1.4 which is not packaged yet, but it seems too hard for me, anyway I'm trying to package it | 09:51 |
| pitti | seb128: rocking! | 09:51 |
| crevette | seb128: but I didn't check symbols differences | 09:51 |
| seb128 | crevette: is the lib required or not? | 09:52 |
| crevette | which one ? | 09:52 |
| seb128 | libopenobex | 09:52 |
| crevette | it can be built against the libopenobex we have in ubuntu now | 09:52 |
| seb128 | crevette: oh, that's just a lib update? | 09:53 |
| seb128 | slomo: hey, gst-plugins-good0.10 should be synced? | 09:54 |
| crevette | seb128: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obex-data-server/+bug/327103 | 09:55 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 327103 in obex-data-server "Please sponsor new upstream version into jaunty (0.4.3)" [Undecided,New] | 09:55 |
| mvo | seb128: I just checked the updated by chris and its a bit inconvienient to apply them to bzr, I think I wait for him to appear and ask if he can either do debdiffs or a bzr branch | 10:45 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:45 |
| seb128 | what is inconvienient? | 10:45 |
| seb128 | can't you diff the debian directory between version and commit that for the upgrade? | 10:46 |
| mvo | seb128: sure, its still a bit inconvinient, a debdiff could be applied right into bzr | 11:07 |
| seb128 | right | 11:08 |
| seb128 | you don't want a debdiff though | 11:08 |
| mvo | seb128: for the other, I first need to get the tarball, build the source deb, get the old deb, debdiff and then apply that into bzr | 11:08 |
| seb128 | but a debian directory debdfiff rather | 11:08 |
| seb128 | right, just try to point him to bzr so he knows for next update, he's quite active on desktop updates and bug triage but I think he's not used to use bzr yet | 11:09 |
| mvo | seb128: sure, I added it into one of the bugreport, when he is online I will be happy to mentor him for the bzr stuff | 11:09 |
| seb128 | ok good | 11:09 |
| mvo | I think he is US timezone based | 11:10 |
| james_w | mvo: https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/ubuntu-seeds/platform.jaunty.apt-transport-https | 11:10 |
| seb128 | not sure but he's usually on IRC in evening european hours | 11:10 |
| james_w | mvo: I was going to ask Colin to review | 11:10 |
| mvo | james_w: aha, thanks! I leave it to him then | 11:12 |
| didrocks | hey james_w ;) | 11:39 |
| james_w | hey didrocks, home safely? | 11:40 |
| didrocks | james_w: yes, a little bit late, but no problem :) and you? | 11:41 |
| james_w | fine thanks | 11:41 |
| slomo | seb128: yes | 11:54 |
| seb128 | slomo: ok good ;-) | 12:17 |
| crevette | hey seb128, thanks for the update | 12:55 |
| seb128 | crevette: you're welcome, thank you for the work ;-) | 12:56 |
| crevette | seb128: bah it's a minor package | 12:56 |
| seb128 | crevette: should the gnome-user-share upload wait until the mdns things is updated? | 12:56 |
| crevette | 0.4.4 was just released :) | 12:56 |
| seb128 | crevette: another update for you then ;-) | 12:57 |
| crevette | seb128: yes, IIRC mdns 0.6 is required | 12:57 |
| seb128 | how did you build and test the update? | 12:57 |
| crevette | seb128: yeah | 12:57 |
| crevette | I talk with debian openobex developper | 12:57 |
| crevette | the 1.5 was released yesterday, and he should buid it b y the middle of feb, is it okay for ubuntu ? | 12:58 |
| crevette | seb128: not really | 12:58 |
| crevette | let me try | 12:58 |
| seb128 | crevette: buid it? | 13:00 |
| seb128 | ah | 13:00 |
| seb128 | he will upload to debian you mean ? | 13:00 |
| seb128 | yes, that should be alright | 13:00 |
| crevette | yeah I build it myself | 13:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks: there? | 13:01 |
| seb128 | didrocks: what update do you still have on your todolist? | 13:02 |
| crevette | seb128: wonderful it works and fixes another issue | 13:03 |
| crevette | :) | 13:03 |
| crevette | now you'll see one feature I've worked on and people never seen | 13:03 |
| didrocks | didrocks: I have gnome-python-extras which waits for libgda, gnome-python & gtkmm that I will handle tonight, and evince that is waiting for sponsoring | 13:04 |
| seb128 | didrocks: oh evince is waiting for review, good, let me do that now | 13:05 |
| seb128 | didrocks: is gnome-python-desktop also on your list? | 13:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: you can see some additional information there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DidierRoche/MOTU/bugsaction | 13:05 |
| seb128 | just cleaning tarballs which are not uptodate | 13:05 |
| didrocks | (for evince) | 13:05 |
| didrocks | and no, but I can take it | 13:06 |
| seb128 | ah right you told me about that the other day | 13:06 |
| seb128 | I was in berlin sprinting though and didn't look at it | 13:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: no problem, you told me it wasn't possible for you to review it then :p | 13:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok good, if you don't feel overworked already it's for you ;-) | 13:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: I get used to gnome-python* ;) | 13:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks: sometimes I tell things which make sense ;-) | 13:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: only sometimes? That's no usually the case? :D | 13:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks: this wikipage is amazing, how many centuries did you spend on writing it? ;-) | 13:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: it was to "record" my sponsors :-) | 13:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: as you can see, most of them aren't described | 13:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: but it was really useful for my first package | 13:08 |
| seb128 | right, most people don't do a such detailled job, it's quite impressive ;-) | 13:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: I think it was a real gain to avoid forgetting things | 13:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks: I don't understand your gconf note there | 13:09 |
| * crevette is packaging ods .0.4.4 | 13:09 | |
| didrocks | seb128: hum didn't updated it | 13:09 |
| seb128 | crevette: good ;-) | 13:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: one sec, let me have a look at debian/rules first | 13:09 |
| didrocks | (to avoid telling bad things ;)) | 13:09 |
| crevette | seb128: you seems to be interested by ods, why? just to fix bugs or you'" using bluetooh now ? | 13:10 |
| crevette | :) | 13:10 |
| seb128 | crevette: not especially interested but we had a gvfs bug where obex was not working on a nokia phone which is fixed in the new version | 13:10 |
| crevette | which bug ? | 13:11 |
| seb128 | bug #324246 | 13:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 324246 in obex-data-server "bluetooth phone: no files when browsing" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324246 | 13:11 |
| seb128 | I already closed it | 13:11 |
| crevette | I admit I don't test all use caseq, like obex:// | 13:11 |
| didrocks | seb128: that's there. There is something I didn't understand in the package. Let me explain: | 13:11 |
| didrocks | seb128: so, I changed the DESTDIR from debian/evince to debian/tmp | 13:12 |
| seb128 | crevette: don't worry it's still early in the cycle and the upstream diff looks alright | 13:12 |
| didrocks | the gconf schemas were in debian/tmp/etc. In evince.install I added debian/tmp/etc/gconf | 13:12 |
| seb128 | didrocks: you can as well drop the line | 13:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, I will know that's a possibility :) | 13:13 |
| seb128 | it was there from the time where evince-gtk was built I think, the default is tmp when you have several binaries | 13:13 |
| Laney | (btw, f-spot might ftbfs and if it does you probably need to add CSC=/usr/bin/csc to the configure arguments) | 13:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: when building it, with dh_gconf I thing, the gconf schemas are in debian/evince/etc AND in debian/evince/usr/share... | 13:14 |
| didrocks | but finally, in the package, it just remains in /usr/share... | 13:14 |
| didrocks | (and there is no rm -rf debian/evince/etc...) | 13:14 |
| didrocks | in debian/rules | 13:14 |
| didrocks | so, this was a strange behavior I can't explain | 13:14 |
| didrocks | seb128: I tried as well not putting in evince.install file this reference (debian/tmp/etc/gconf), but we don't get debian/evince/usr then... | 13:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks: listing the etc directory is correct | 13:17 |
| seb128 | dh_gconf does move those to usr | 13:17 |
| didrocks | seb128: I use the pbuilder hook to log when the package is built | 13:17 |
| didrocks | and I see as well debian/evince/etc/gconf and debian/evince/usr/share/gconf | 13:18 |
| seb128 | Laney: due to some new changes in the mono stack? | 13:18 |
| didrocks | but only the latter is present in the package | 13:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks: see that where? | 13:18 |
| crevette | seb128: I would like to push packaging of ods into VCS, who should I contact | 13:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks: those are installed in etc and then moved to use when dh_gconf is run | 13:18 |
| seb128 | crevette: it's already in a vcs apparently, see the control | 13:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: where I build my packages... | 13:18 |
| Laney | seb128: I'm not sure, but it got dropped in Debian from my Ubuntu patch. | 13:19 |
| didrocks | let me check again, but I am almost sure of it | 13:19 |
| seb128 | Laney: I will sponsor the debdiff on launchpad and we will see what happens ;-) | 13:19 |
| seb128 | that's the lazy way | 13:19 |
| seb128 | I will let one of you guys fix it if that breaks | 13:19 |
| Laney | heh | 13:19 |
| Laney | give it a test build? | 13:19 |
| seb128 | or get the fix in debian and we can sync the new revision ;-) | 13:19 |
| Laney | I asked meembey to upload, we'll see if he does it soon | 13:20 |
| Laney | meebey* | 13:20 |
| seb128 | Laney: I can do that but I need to wait on the new binaries to be published then | 13:20 |
| Laney | k | 13:20 |
| Laney | I don't think that build-dep version is a problem btw, we have 2.0 in Jaunty anyway | 13:20 |
| seb128 | didrocks: not sure, I never really bothered about checking the build dir I just look at the debs | 13:20 |
| seb128 | didrocks: what I now is that upstream uses etc and dh_gconf move the schemas to usr | 13:20 |
| seb128 | you should have the etc directory in the tmp location | 13:21 |
| crevette | seb128: yeah I know, but I wanted to have it merge rather | 13:21 |
| seb128 | but the evince dir should have only the etc one after the build | 13:21 |
| seb128 | crevette: well ask mvo for bzr questions ;-) | 13:21 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, but I have another one etc/gconf in debian/evince :) | 13:21 |
| didrocks | so, I was surprised to not see it also in the resulting package | 13:22 |
| seb128 | didrocks: let me review and testbuild your upload so we can continue this discussion | 13:22 |
| didrocks | let me check again, two minutes :) | 13:22 |
| crevette | seb128: you 'll a lot of handful people to build packages now :) | 13:22 |
| didrocks | yes | 13:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: oki | 13:22 |
| seb128 | crevette: that's nice isn't it ;-) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | desktop team rocks! | 13:22 |
| mvo | crevette: I'm around if you have a bzr question | 13:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes it really rocks \o/ | 13:23 |
| crevette | a build-farm | 13:23 |
| crevette | mvo: I seen that obex-data-server and bluez packaging we're not pushe recently | 13:23 |
| seb128 | that would be bad citizen work | 13:24 |
| crevette | 1) if if want to push changes, should I do a commit per version to fill the gap, or should I just get the latest version and do that in one commit ? | 13:24 |
| crevette | seb128: I'm guilty too | 13:24 |
| mvo | crevette: just do it with one commit, that will make your work a lot easier I htink | 13:25 |
| crevette | mvo: as usual I push it to my branch and you'll do the merge ? | 13:25 |
| mvo | crevette: yes, that sounds fine | 13:26 |
| seb128 | didrocks: one build later | 13:29 |
| seb128 | $ find debian -name schemas | 13:29 |
| seb128 | debian/tmp/etc/gconf/schemas | 13:29 |
| seb128 | debian/evince/usr/share/gconf/schemas | 13:29 |
| seb128 | didrocks: not, it's not duplicated there | 13:29 |
| seb128 | didrocks: dunno how you do your builds ... | 13:29 |
| didrocks | seb128: I am currently building it again, mayve my memory is very bad :) | 13:30 |
| didrocks | maybe* | 13:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: if so, that makes sense that dh_gconf do what it claims to do :) | 13:30 |
| didrocks | does* | 13:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks: otherwise the binaries look mostly ok | 13:31 |
| didrocks | # find debian -name schemas | 13:31 |
| didrocks | debian/evince/etc/gconf/schemas | 13:31 |
| didrocks | debian/evince/usr/share/gconf/schemas | 13:31 |
| didrocks | debian/tmp/etc/gconf/schemas | 13:31 |
| didrocks | in my pbuilder | 13:31 |
| didrocks | I am not crazy \o/ | 13:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks: you probably want to install the documentation in the corresponding binaries, ie /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libevdocument in libevdocument-dev and not evince | 13:32 |
| didrocks | (and I check again, the binary does only contains /usr/share..) | 13:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks: is the directory empty in etc? | 13:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: no: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116065/ | 13:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks: weird | 13:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: really, isn't it? | 13:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks: did you run dh_install --list-missing there? | 13:35 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, it was listing .a and .la files | 13:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks: it would recreate it | 13:35 |
| didrocks | but not listing this one | 13:35 |
| seb128 | ok, so that's due to it | 13:35 |
| didrocks | ? | 13:35 |
| seb128 | the dh_install call redo the install | 13:36 |
| seb128 | but you don't run dh_gconf after that | 13:36 |
| seb128 | so you reinstall in etc but don't move those | 13:36 |
| seb128 | rm the etc dir | 13:36 |
| didrocks | ok, that's understable :) | 13:36 |
| seb128 | run dh_install --list-missing | 13:36 |
| seb128 | and look it's back there | 13:36 |
| seb128 | dh_install do its job | 13:36 |
| didrocks | let me try | 13:36 |
| didrocks | (I was think dh_install --... would not launch dh_install only) | 13:37 |
| seb128 | dh_* tools don't call other dh_tools | 13:37 |
| seb128 | that's why you get everything listed in debhelper packages for example | 13:37 |
| crevette | mvo: I don't understand, I can 't specify bluez and cannot specify bluez-4.x, what should I do ? | 13:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, you right :) that's just strange that dh_install --list-missing is not listing debian/tmp/etc (other it knows from dh_gconf that can be moved) | 13:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks a lot for the explanation! What about the documentation, you told me? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks: you're welcome | 13:39 |
| crevette | mvo: sorry I forgot the pastebin link http://pastebin.com/m22823088 | 13:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks: you should move the api documentation in the corresponding binaries, not in the evince binary | 13:39 |
| didrocks | (seb128: I told you I like to understand weird stuff ;)) | 13:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks: and your symlinking in the rules are weird | 13:40 |
| seb128 | don't do that | 13:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok for the place (I thing this is an option for dh_installdoc) | 13:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: for symlinks? | 13:40 |
| seb128 | why do you want to change the location? | 13:40 |
| didrocks | It was what were used in evince-dbg | 13:40 |
| seb128 | right, not sure why it's there but that's wrong for libs | 13:41 |
| seb128 | especially that you install those html in the evince binary which can be not installed | 13:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: you just told me to change the location for libevdocument, no? | 13:42 |
| seb128 | just installed /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libevdocument in libevdocument-dev and not evince | 13:42 |
| seb128 | do the same for the other library | 13:42 |
| seb128 | and drop those weird rules call | 13:42 |
| didrocks | even for -dbg one? | 13:42 |
| seb128 | no, let the dbg the way it is | 13:42 |
| seb128 | that's coming from debian | 13:42 |
| seb128 | and doesn't hurt | 13:42 |
| seb128 | the dbg depends on the binary anyway | 13:42 |
| seb128 | the libs don't depends on evince | 13:42 |
| seb128 | just drop your rules hack | 13:43 |
| seb128 | and update the 3 .install to list only the html api corresponding to each binary | 13:43 |
| seb128 | each libevince*-dev its documentation | 13:43 |
| mvo | crevette: try bzr push --create-prefix lp:~bmillemathias/+junk/bluez-ubuntu for now, look like LP madness | 13:43 |
| seb128 | evince has /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evince | 13:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: and for libevince* (without -deb)? | 13:44 |
| didrocks | -dev* | 13:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks: in evince | 13:44 |
| seb128 | or what do you mean? | 13:44 |
| crevette | mvo: it's been like that for few days | 13:44 |
| didrocks | hum, -dev has a dependency on libev..., that's why I thought a symlink was good | 13:44 |
| seb128 | but what do you try to get there? | 13:45 |
| crevette | mvo: thanks you can get the branch for bluez | 13:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks: I don't understand what you try to solve | 13:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: like for -dbg stuff, a symlink from the -dev documentation on the corresponding binary library doc | 13:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks: the documentation are installed in debian/tmp/usr/share/gtk-doc/html and used correctly there | 13:46 |
| didrocks | right | 13:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks: install the documentation directly in the libevince*-dev that's how it's done usually | 13:46 |
| seb128 | no need of any symlink this way | 13:46 |
| seb128 | the -dbg hack is just to spare CD space I guess or similar | 13:47 |
| seb128 | since evince and evince-dbg are similar | 13:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: and in the binary library (not -dev), just evince documentation? | 13:47 |
| seb128 | there is no specific documentation for the dbg | 13:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks: no, nothing in the libs, library should not conflict on soname changes | 13:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks: there is 3 html directory, one for evince binary and one for each library | 13:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks: in library you only put the library itself since you want no common files when the soname is changed | 13:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, so the documentation for each library must only be put in -dev | 13:48 |
| seb128 | right | 13:48 |
| seb128 | if you need to api documentation you probably have the dev installed anyway | 13:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, I will note it in my "logging wiki page" :) let me handle that and push a new version | 13:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: it was not mentionned in the library classroom, that's the reason I made this way | 13:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks: oh btw please drop the hildon patch and the lpia build-depends while you are at it | 13:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks: I got the request from a mobile team guy during the sprint | 13:50 |
| didrocks | it's not needed anymore? | 13:50 |
| didrocks | ok | 13:50 |
| didrocks | I thought that the mobile team added extra patch in some way :) | 13:50 |
| seb128 | the patch was moved out of the patches directory and not used for a while | 13:50 |
| didrocks | that's why I kept it :) | 13:50 |
| didrocks | no problem* | 13:50 |
| seb128 | and they don't plan to rewrite it now | 13:50 |
| didrocks | oki | 13:50 |
| seb128 | and the build-depends are outdated and they want to clean some of those packages now | 13:50 |
| seb128 | so just drop those and the patch in the update | 13:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: I will do all that stuff just after a meeting :) | 13:51 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok, otherwise pretty good work for a first library split! | 13:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks! ;) | 13:51 |
| seb128 | didrocks: update the descriptions too btw | 13:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks: "Document (postscript, pdf) viewer - debugging symbols" is the short description for the new libraries ;-) | 13:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, wrong copy-paste :-) | 13:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks: description are usually no fun to write but drop at least the debugging symbols there which is wrong ;-) | 13:53 |
| didrocks | yeah, I'm sorry for this :) | 13:53 |
| seb128 | that's ok | 13:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks: you could also add libs and libdevel section to those binaries | 13:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks: and you can also probably remove the cleaning line in the rules for evince and update the .install no to list *.so in the nautilus directory for example but that's a detail | 13:55 |
| seb128 | didrocks: I think that's all for my comments ;-) | 13:55 |
| didrocks | seb128: it was also not mentionned in the classroom too. I have to write a wiki page about it :) | 13:55 |
| seb128 | where is huats now, he needs to hand me work too ;-) | 13:55 |
| didrocks | remove the claning lines in the rules? it will add a new change from debian | 13:56 |
| didrocks | cleaning* | 13:56 |
| seb128 | didrocks: well, reading the comment it was meant to be there because there was no lib split | 13:56 |
| seb128 | you can let it too if you want that's a detail | 13:57 |
| crevette | mvo: is there some kind of branch per ubuntu release ? | 13:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes. I will try to push those diff to debian back | 13:59 |
| seb128 | didrocks: they will probably not start on 2.25 now | 13:59 |
| * didrocks just finished a copy/paste to be sure to forget anything :) | 13:59 | |
| didrocks | seb128: but I can still push to aliot svn, right? | 13:59 |
| seb128 | not really | 14:00 |
| didrocks | and once they will want to take it, after lenny release, they will, no? | 14:00 |
| seb128 | they split by distribution usually | 14:00 |
| seb128 | ie, if there is already an unstable and an experimental version and want to stay on 2.24 for experimental | 14:00 |
| seb128 | there is no really a stagging right now there | 14:00 |
| seb128 | you can try to squeeze that somewhere | 14:01 |
| seb128 | on send your work as a 2.26 update when 2.26 will be available | 14:01 |
| didrocks | ok, and they will only update to 2.26, when unstable will be "Squeeze"? | 14:01 |
| seb128 | not especially, they could do 2.24 to 2.26 in experimental too | 14:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, but only stable GNOME release | 14:03 |
| didrocks | so, we push back only stable version, right? | 14:03 |
| didrocks | (for GNOME) | 14:03 |
| didrocks | in unstable/experimental | 14:03 |
| seb128 | usually yes | 14:04 |
| didrocks | ok | 14:04 |
| didrocks | a lot of things to note/triage/make clear on the wiki :) | 14:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: I will keep you updated when all of this stuff is done | 14:05 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:05 |
| seb128 | thanks for the work | 14:05 |
| seb128 | let me know when the package is updated, I'm rather interested in that than in your wiki documentation ;-) | 14:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks to you :) | 14:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, I'm sure, you prefer binaries or source :p | 14:06 |
| crevette | seb128: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obex-data-server/+bug/327188 :) | 14:13 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 327188 in obex-data-server "Sponsor new upstream version (0.4.4)" [Undecided,New] | 14:13 |
| seb128 | crevette: thanks | 14:13 |
| fta2 | seb128, evo crashes when i tag a message as junk. known? | 14:14 |
| seb128 | dunno, I don't use tagging or junk | 14:14 |
| seb128 | fta2: copy your stacktrace on /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libevdocument in libevdocument-dev and not evince | 14:14 |
| seb128 | update | 14:14 |
| seb128 | fta2: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/dupfinder/simple-dup-finder.cgi | 14:14 |
| fta2 | gnome bug 569700 | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 569700 in BugBuddyBugs "crash when canceled during downloading of an image" [Critical,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569700 | 14:18 |
| fta2 | in my case, it's when i junk a message while it's not completely loaded (tons of images) | 14:19 |
| seb128 | fta2: that's a frequent crasher, I triggered it several times by deleting spams in inbox | 14:19 |
| fta2 | just started today for me | 14:21 |
| crevette | seb128: before doing the sponsor hold a bit if you can I need to add a lp bug being fixed | 14:23 |
| seb128 | crevette: I was looking at it | 14:23 |
| seb128 | fta2: right, you probably just upgraded to 2.25.90 today | 14:23 |
| seb128 | crevette: which one do you want? | 14:23 |
| crevette | seb128: 291043 | 14:23 |
| seb128 | bug #291043 | 14:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291043 in obex-data-server "No notification bubble on file reception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291043 | 14:23 |
| seb128 | crevette: seems there is no patch to consider there | 14:26 |
| crevette | seb128: no, but at least the bug is corrected in gnome-user-share | 14:27 |
| crevette | hey cassidy | 14:27 |
| seb128 | crevette: well do you want to do changes to ods? | 14:27 |
| crevette | which changes? to the changelog? | 14:28 |
| seb128 | crevette: dunno you asked me to wait before uploading, what do you want to change? | 14:29 |
| crevette | I wanted to add that it fixes the bug I gave you | 14:29 |
| seb128 | crevette: but it doesn't | 14:29 |
| seb128 | crevette: at least 0.4.4 doesn't | 14:29 |
| crevette | it did for me | 14:29 |
| seb128 | 0.4.3 to 0.4.4? | 14:29 |
| seb128 | ie 0.4.3 was not working? | 14:29 |
| crevette | and on the upstream bug I had a confirmation it is fixed by another reporter | 14:30 |
| seb128 | that's weird | 14:30 |
| seb128 | there is almost no change there | 14:30 |
| crevette | 0.4.3 is fixing the bug | 14:30 |
| seb128 | ok, that has already been uploaded | 14:30 |
| seb128 | just close the bug on launchpad | 14:30 |
| crevette | yep but I didn't noticed that | 14:30 |
| seb128 | well listing it as a 0.4.4 fix would be wrong | 14:30 |
| crevette | seb128: nothing to expect for intrepid ? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | just close the bug saying 0.4.3 fixed it | 14:30 |
| seb128 | no, that's too much of a detail, we got almost no user complain and intrepid is not a lts | 14:31 |
| seb128 | uploaded | 14:32 |
| crevette | thanks a lot | 14:32 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 14:32 |
| crevette | seb128: sorry for being dumb but how can I close a bug telling it is fixed, perhaps I don't have enough power for that ? | 14:45 |
| seb128 | click on one of the small arrows in the corresponding line? | 14:45 |
| seb128 | it should give you an area to write comments and change settings, if some are locked you don't have the bugtriage rights | 14:46 |
| crevette | I did set the status for each product in bug 291043, but is ther a way to close the bug globally ? | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291043 in obex-data-server "No notification bubble on file reception" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291043 | 14:47 |
| seb128 | no, that's ok this way | 14:48 |
| crevette | hello mclasen | 14:49 |
| mclasen | morning | 14:50 |
| crevette | seb128: does it exist a script for request sponsorship, because I'm tired to do it manually :) | 14:57 |
| seb128 | crevette: not that I know but maybe dholbach has one | 14:58 |
| seb128 | huats: !!! | 15:17 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:17 |
| huats | seb128: !!! | 15:17 |
| huats | seb128: I haven't forgotten you | 15:18 |
| huats | :) | 15:18 |
| seb128 | good ;-) | 15:18 |
| === cassidy` is now known as cassidy | ||
| pitti | I'll upload totem{,-pl-parser}? from the sponsoring queue now | 16:21 |
| Davedan | I accedently draged the toolbar to the right. how do I put it back in the top of the screen? | 16:35 |
| didrocks | Davedan: you can drag and drop it to the top | 16:36 |
| didrocks | (just clic in a empty space of the bar) | 16:37 |
| Davedan | ok thanks | 16:37 |
| didrocks | you're welcome :) | 16:38 |
| crevette | hello gentlemen | 16:54 |
| huats | hello crevette | 16:57 |
| crevette | hey huats | 16:59 |
| crevette | tx seb128 | 16:59 |
| pitti | seb128: just got to sponsoring totem and -plparser, sorry; will do more tomorrow morning | 17:27 |
| pitti | tomorrow was too much other stuff going on | 17:27 |
| seb128 | pitti: thanks, don't worry there is nothing urgent ;-) | 17:27 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 17:27 | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 17:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks: was that you who I pinged about pidgin some days ago, I'm not sure now? | 17:54 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: good work on those deskop changes ;-) | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | you're welcome:) | 17:54 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: you should talk to mvo about using bzr btw ;-) | 17:55 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll put those changes in to bzr in a bit if they haven't been done already. i didn't realise they were maintained there :/ | 17:55 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: since you seem to be looking at f-spot maybe you could have a look at trying to get the other patches which are waiting for sponsoring to debian? | 17:55 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: there is some listed on http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/index.html | 17:56 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll take a look at those in a bit | 17:56 |
| seb128 | thanks | 17:56 |
| seb128 | apt-get source tell you when something is maintained in bzr | 17:56 |
| seb128 | easy to not notice if you are used to not read the log though ;-) | 17:56 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, and i tend to just manually download the sources instead of using apt-get at the moment, as i still do most things on my intrepid machine, and i don't know if i can use apt-get to download the jaunty sources | 17:57 |
| seb128 | you can | 17:59 |
| seb128 | just add a jaunty deb-src source | 17:59 |
| seb128 | it will get the most recent source | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i never thought of that ;) i'll give that a try in a bit | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 17:59 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | what i really need to do is upgrade this machine to jaunty though, without my partner noticing | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | is anything happening with the fast-user-switch-applet this cycle? | 18:01 |
| seb128 | no | 18:01 |
| seb128 | no switch to the new gdm no change to the applet for jaunty | 18:01 |
| seb128 | the dxteam is busy working on other things and jaunty is planned to be mostly a bug fix cycle | 18:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i was looking at a few bugs for the existing applet and was going to try and fix them, just as long as the applet wasn't going to change much over the next few weeks | 18:02 |
| seb128 | good idea | 18:03 |
| seb128 | but the applet will probably change a lot next cycle | 18:03 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i can imagine. will a lot of our existing patch-set need porting across? | 18:03 |
| seb128 | if we switch to the new gdm, they rewrote it basically and have different dbus api, different codebase, etc | 18:03 |
| seb128 | that's to define, it seems people don't agree on the way to go right now | 18:04 |
| seb128 | the fedora guys are adding status api to gnome-session but there is already some software doing that job correctly | 18:04 |
| seb128 | so it's not clear what will be used | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it's a little messy at the moment. and the existing applet has some weaknesses (such as no policykit support. i actually work around this at home by patching the applet to just call the session dialog) | 18:05 |
| seb128 | you can talk to tedg about it, he's the one who worked on the ubuntu changes and is following the upstream discussions | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i've just noticed totem failed to build | 18:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i missed a Makefile.in from the autotools patch | 18:11 |
| seb128 | did you test build it? | 18:11 |
| seb128 | is that one of those cases where autotools get ran when installed which make you not notice build issues? ;-) | 18:11 |
| seb128 | when using quilt you want to find . -name | xargs quilt add | 18:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i built it, but then made a last minute (what i thought was a minor) change before i submitted it | 18:12 |
| seb128 | or use cdbs-edit-patch to update your changes | 18:12 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:13 |
| seb128 | I've to run now but I will have a look to it later if mvo is not quicker ;-) | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | that's really odd | 18:14 |
| chrisccoulson | its actually building at home | 18:14 |
| seb128 | what I said | 18:15 |
| seb128 | autotools get ran locally if installed | 18:15 |
| seb128 | look to your build log | 18:15 |
| crevette | seb128: while you're still here, I have a question about nautilus-sendto for universe | 18:15 |
| crevette | I didn't had time to look at it | 18:15 |
| seb128 | crevette: sure | 18:16 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll do that once it's finished. i'll prepare a fix for that though in the meantime | 18:16 |
| crevette | how can I do to just have the two *.so of the plugins, should I run a rm on all files I don't want | 18:16 |
| crevette | ? | 18:16 |
| seb128 | crevette: either that or install to tmp and use a .install to move what you want to the deb | 18:17 |
| seb128 | got to go | 18:18 |
| seb128 | bbl | 18:18 |
| seb128 | asac: you have some trivial sponsoring bugs waiting you should review those one day ;-) | 22:54 |
| asac | seb128: heh | 22:56 |
| asac | ;) | 22:57 |
| asac | anything particular you have in mind/spotted? | 22:57 |
| seb128 | asac: I'm just looking through the sponsoring list | 22:57 |
| seb128 | bug #295788 | 22:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 295788 in network-manager-applet "Network Configuration menu item should also be displayed in Xfce" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/295788 | 22:57 |
| asac | yes. didnt i fix that long ago;)? | 22:57 |
| seb128 | it's a one liner in a .desktop waiting for a month | 22:57 |
| seb128 | dunno the bug is still listed | 22:58 |
| asac | * fix LP: #268803 - Ubuntu Intrepid: Both Knetworkmanager and Network | 22:58 |
| asac | Manager load on startup; fix xdg autostart .desktop file to | 22:58 |
| asac | "OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;" | 22:58 |
| asac | - add debian/patches/lp268803_xdg_autostart_gnome_xfce_only.patch | 22:58 |
| asac | - update debian/patches/series | 22:58 |
| asac | thats from -- Alexander Sack <asac@ubuntu.com> Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:05:51 +0100 | 22:58 |
| asac | maybe they want SRU? | 22:58 |
| seb128 | asac: that's not the autostart there but the menu item for the configuration dialog | 22:58 |
| asac | heh :) | 22:59 |
| seb128 | asac: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21173925/network-manager-applet_lp_295788.patch | 22:59 |
| seb128 | asac: bug #283416 too | 22:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283416 in network-manager "one should have /etc/init.d/network-manager status option as well" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283416 | 22:59 |
| * asac should probably not work now ;) | 22:59 | |
| seb128 | asac: the debian maintainer says they have that option, either copy that or upload the patch or decide that still needs discussion and unsubscribe the sponsoring team there | 23:00 |
| asac | seb128: hey, i know how to process that ;) | 23:00 |
| seb128 | asac: would be nice to clean the sponsoring list a bit so dholbach doesn't get depressed ;-) | 23:00 |
| seb128 | it's over a screen for main right now | 23:01 |
| asac | true | 23:01 |
| huats | seb128: hey | 23:04 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 23:04 |
| huats | I am finishing my last build of gnome-keyring right now | 23:04 |
| huats | ... | 23:04 |
| seb128 | huats: ohh ;-) | 23:04 |
| huats | I have asked upstream for any opinion | 23:04 |
| seb128 | huats: the upstream change is working? | 23:04 |
| huats | haven't tested yet | 23:05 |
| huats | (sorry) | 23:05 |
| huats | I will do another one after that one :) | 23:05 |
| huats | seb128: I have found that mandriva has included the ui files | 23:05 |
| huats | so I have added them too :) | 23:05 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 23:06 |
| huats | (ok I know it is bad to look over his neighbour shoulder) | 23:06 |
| seb128 | huats: open source is about sharing experience ;-) | 23:21 |
| cj | seb128: hey there | 23:43 |
| cj | seb128: I'm jhbuilding up so I can build a patch to put gtkglarea in gtk-shallow/gtk/gtkglarea.[ch] | 23:44 |
| cj | I'll go re-read your comments on the bug. :) | 23:44 |
| seb128 | ? | 23:45 |
| seb128 | I don't think I know about any gtkglarea bug | 23:45 |
| seb128 | I do comments on hundred of bugs every week so some context is usually useful | 23:45 |
| cj | bug 119189 | 23:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 119189 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[gusty] all the gusty's kernel are bugging with my DVDRom" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119189 | 23:45 |
| cj | I thought for certain I saw your name on it somewhere... | 23:46 |
| seb128 | not likely | 23:46 |
| seb128 | that is a linux bug | 23:46 |
| seb128 | I'm working on desktop packages usually | 23:46 |
| cj | no, sorry. gnome bug 119189 | 23:46 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 119189 in general "Add OpenGL support to GTK+" [Enhancement,Assigned] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119189 | 23:47 |
| cj | looks like your name is not on it, though | 23:47 |
| cj | ubottu: botsnack, but improve in the reading my mind area | 23:47 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 23:47 |
| seb128 | no, and as said I don't know about gtkglarea | 23:47 |
| cj | well, then! disregard :) | 23:48 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 23:48 |
| seb128 | enough work for today see you tomorrow | 23:50 |
| cj | sleep well! | 23:50 |
| pochu | good night seb128 | 23:51 |
| seb128 | huats: don't work too much I will not upload the update before tomorrow now ;-) | 23:55 |
| huats | sure | 23:57 |
| huats | I will finish it no | 23:57 |
| huats | w | 23:57 |
| seb128 | huats: 'night | 23:58 |
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