[00:01] <owh> twb: The site that davexoxide was having problems with.
[00:01] <twb> owh: oh, sorry.
[00:03] <davexoxide> owh: PHP it's Drupal
[00:04] <owh> davexoxide: Then you can just write a simple php script that runs a mail() command, and you can use phpinfo() to check what it thinks the mail settings are. I'm not certain, but it may be that apache needs reloading before php detects that there is mail installed.
[00:05] <davexoxide> owh sounds like a good way to test... i'll do that now
[00:20] <ScottK> owh: We don't install any MTA by default.
[00:20] <ScottK> davexoxide: What is it you're trying to test?
[00:32] <owh> ScottK, IIRC if you install the "mail-server" task, it installs postfix.
[00:32] <ScottK> owh: True, but that's hardly by default.
[00:35] <owh> ScottK, the original question was: "What should I install, exim or postfix." - default, as in, bare install, you are correct. Default, as in, the one you install when you install the mail-server task, then it's postfix. Meanwhile, the problem davexoxide is currently having is that PHP isn't sending, but we've been working through it.
[00:35] <ScottK> OK.
[00:36] <ScottK> Generally when I'm testing postfix I use telnet to the appropriate port.
[00:39] <owh> ScottK - interesting idea. The php suggestion from me came from the notion that the site was running drupal using php. Seemed like less to gin around :)
[00:39] <owh> ScottK, besides, I figured the postfix installer worked - just that PHP was having a hisseyfit :)
[00:40] <ScottK> For basic MTA level stuff it's pretty easy to use telnet and you have direct control over what's being sent.  That and tailing /var/log/mail.log generally clarifies things.
[00:56] <twb> netcat beats telnet :P
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> I need some help configuring bacula.  I want my backups to go into /var/bacula/.  I have that defined in the File Storage type.  Although, it seems like I still need to manually label something there (?).  When I attempt to use the label command in bconsole, I get "3910 Unable to open device "FileStorage" (/var/bacula/): ERR=dev.c:491 Could not open: /var/bacula/File1, ERR=Permission denied"
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> /var/bacula/ is 770 root:bacula.  What's wrong here?
[01:16] <rgotten> anybody has try webmin agains ebox
[01:19] <Deeps> !webmin | rgotten
[01:20] <luckyone> hello all, can anyone help me figure out how to get my samba server running correctly? I have tried to use eBox to create it
[01:20] <luckyone> I am getting some errors trying to connect...
[02:07] <ricardo1> hi can you help me????
[02:07] <ricardo1> how can i install pear???
[02:07] <ricardo1> having trouble
[02:08] <zoopster> what is the trouble?
[02:09] <zoopster> sudo apt-get install php-pear would be the command, no?
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> ricardo1, fewer "?" and more description will probably get you more (and less hostile) help
[02:11] <ricardo1> Kamping_Kaiser Fatal error:  require() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/var/www/joomla159/components/com_estateagent/includes/gallery/../../../../globals.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/joomla159/components/com_estateagent/includes/gallery/authEA.php on line 22 ............ fuckin error
[02:14] <zoopster> provided the globals.php exists...does it have the correct permissions?
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoopster, s help still hold - thats how you install php-pear. not dealing with php much i'm not sure how to read the error - it looks to me like joolas globals.php cant be found
[02:17] <zoopster> Kamping_Kaiser: his 2nd question was "how can I install pear???"
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoopster, i saw
[02:19] <zoopster> most of those issues I have seen are permissions issues...the file cannot be read by the server...either ownership or rights
[03:05] <davexoxide> ScottK: so i set up a simple php script and it's unable to send
[03:05] <ScottK> davexoxide: If you telnet from localhost can you send?
[03:09] <davexoxide> ScottK: I got 201 messages until i do DATA
[03:09] <davexoxide> then no matter what i put I get 500
[03:09] <davexoxide> sorry 501
[03:09] <ScottK> What does /var/log/mail.log have to say about it?
[03:10] <ScottK> If you can pastebin the log messages for one transaction, I can probably sort it out.
[03:11] <davexoxide> ScottK: http://davexoxide.pastebin.com/d7693521b
[03:11]  * ScottK looks
[03:12] <ScottK> davexoxide: So you have one that you did send to Hotmail that was OK.
[03:12] <ScottK> How is that being sent?
[03:12] <davexoxide> no, telnet failed at the last step
[03:13] <davexoxide> i did a command line php -a
[03:13] <davexoxide> mail();
[03:13] <davexoxide> that did work to hotmail
[03:13] <ScottK> OK.
[03:13] <ScottK> What's the exact error you got after data?
[03:14] <davexoxide> ScottK: http://davexoxide.pastebin.com/d2c54238f
[03:14] <ScottK> Looking
[03:15] <ScottK> davexoxide: When you are telnetting, you need a newline between the command DATA and the actual data.
[03:16] <davexoxide> ok i'll try that, and see what happens
[03:16] <ScottK> The 501 is it's telling you you got the syntax wrong.
[03:18] <davexoxide> ScottK: yeah that worked.. and php -a mail() works...
[03:18] <davexoxide> but my simple php mail script fails... hmm
[03:19] <davexoxide> ScottK: http://www.buildwebsite4u.com/advanced/php.shtml
[03:19] <davexoxide> http://static.davexoxide.com/mail.html
[03:20] <ScottK> davexoxide: OK.  Those two things tell you you have a php problem, not a mail server problem.
[03:20] <davexoxide> ok great, thanks man
[03:27] <ScottK> davexoxide: My guess would be that the php 'mail' command you appear to be using doesn't talk smtp, but I know zip about php.
[03:28] <davexoxide> yeah it's sendmail_path
[03:28] <davexoxide> i still had exim in my conf file
[03:28] <ScottK> Ah.
[03:28] <davexoxide> for postfix it should be /usr/lib/sendmail?? or something like that
[03:28] <ScottK> Postfix sendmail is compatible externally with the sendmail sendmail command.
[03:29] <ScottK> Yes.  That's where it is.
[03:42] <twb> davexoxide: all MTAs on Ubuntu provide /usr/sbin/sendmail.
[03:42] <twb> davexoxide: /usr/lib/sendmail is a legacy location found on e.g. Solaris
[03:43] <davexoxide> yeah i decided to go with default setting of sendmail -t -i
[03:43] <davexoxide> still not working as expected but at least i know it's not postfix
[03:43] <davexoxide> i'm over in the php room bothering those guys now
[03:44] <davexoxide> thanks ScottK and twb for the help!
[03:44] <ScottK> davexoxide: You're welcome.
[06:36] <Hellsheep> Hey
[06:36] <Hellsheep> I am trying to install a teamspeak server onto my Ubuntu home server, i created a new user using: sudo useradd -d /home/teamspeak teamspeak
[06:36] <Hellsheep> and it created the user, except i dont know the pass? =o
[06:37] <Hellsheep> How do i determine the password for it
[06:39] <Hellsheep> i tried su teamspeak
[06:39] <Hellsheep> but it asks for the password, and no matter what i try it wont work
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> why on earth did you `useradd -d` instead of just `adduser` ?
[06:43] <Hellsheep> i have no clue
[06:43] <Hellsheep> i blame a website
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hellsheep, it wont have a password, set one with `sudo passwd teamspeak`
[06:44] <Hellsheep> the teamspeak website says use -d
[06:44] <Hellsheep> ty
[06:44] <Hellsheep> Why do people on sites like teamspeak and vent fail to write all the details
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its in a wiki, i suggest you update it
[06:45] <Hellsheep> It's not. =[
[06:45] <Hellsheep> It's on the main teamspeak site..... =/
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> its possible they use 'adduser' in the example because its a lowest common denominator.
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> :\
[06:45] <Hellsheep> http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=tutorial_b
[06:46] <Hellsheep> and i had the same problems with Ventrilo
[06:46] <Hellsheep> They lack the correct information to install without looking somewhere else
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hellsheep, it assumes you are root - if you are root you can `su` to any other user without a password
[06:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> `sudo su teamspeak` would be equivilant to `su teamspeak` as root
[06:47] <Hellsheep> i see
[06:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> i still think `adduser --disabled-password` or something similar would be better then useradd -d (but i'm sure they've look into it)
[06:50] <Hellsheep> Your solution would have worked the first time though.
[06:50] <Hellsheep> And your solution solved my problem.
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres a few lines in that guide  i find a little strange
[06:52]  * Kamping_Kaiser shrug
[06:55] <Hellsheep> yeah
[06:55] <Hellsheep> like their extraction methods dont work either
[06:58] <Hellsheep> =/
[07:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> should do. how did it fail?
[07:02] <Hellsheep> Dunno lost the error thing
[07:02] <Hellsheep> except
[07:02] <Hellsheep> i just WinSCP the whole folder
[07:02] <Hellsheep> instead of .tar.bz2 file
[07:03] <Hellsheep> bash: ./teamspeak2-server_startscript: Permission denied
[07:03] <Hellsheep> Love that
[07:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> its probably not executable.
[07:04] <Hellsheep> so i see
[07:04] <Hellsheep> dunno how to change that
[07:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> perhaps a result of copying it around. try `chmod +x ./teamspeak2-server_startscript` and rerunning the command
[07:05] <Hellsheep> thanks
[07:05] <Hellsheep> that worked
[07:06] <Hellsheep> gotta clean up around the house now
[07:06] <Hellsheep> cyaz
[07:06] <Hellsheep> and thanks
[07:06] <Hellsheep> you always have the answers =P
[07:12] <suigeneris> ScottK-desktop, are you there?
[07:35] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #326936 in samba (main) "package samba 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326936
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> allo
[08:51] <pike__> im trying to run a dhcp server on eth1.  i have installed the server but im not sure how to designate an interface to listen on in dhcpd.conf
[08:52] <pike__> all other config is done it just compains that no interface is set to listen on
[08:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> pike__, ISC dhcpd? set it to give out addresses on the netblock eth1 is on, it'll do the rest
[08:59] <pike__> i see thx
[09:15] <Xperiment62> ive been forced due to my brother killing my main computer, to use my server as a desktop machine, i miss my music... how can i install and setup a sound system to use with mplayer easily?
[09:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #327105 in apache2 (main) "package apache2.2-common 2.2.9-7ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: package apache2.2-common is not ready for configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327105
[09:28] <Xperiment62> how can i get sound output from my server
[09:28] <soren> Xperiment62: Play something?
[09:29] <Xperiment62> i tried
[09:29] <soren> And?
[09:29] <Xperiment62> nothing
[09:29] <soren> -ENOINFORMATION
[09:29] <Xperiment62> mplayer started playing it but absolutely no sound
[09:29] <soren> turn up the volume?
[09:29] <Xperiment62> umm
[09:29] <Xperiment62> remember this is server edition
[09:29] <soren> Yes?
[09:29] <Xperiment62> and i did turn up the volume
[09:30] <Xperiment62> nothing at all
[09:30] <Xperiment62> so please dont treat me like an idiot
[09:30] <soren> Well, then give me some information that is actually useful.
[09:30] <Xperiment62> well, what is tehre to say
[09:30] <soren> How does it fail? What output do you get? What have you done to make it work?
[09:31] <suigeneris> did you unmute it?
[09:31] <Xperiment62> gah
[09:31] <Xperiment62> its a basic install of server
[09:31] <Xperiment62> recently installed mplayer
[09:31] <soren> You keep saying that, but what do you think that means?
[09:31] <Xperiment62> tried to use the alsa output but no avail
[09:31] <Xperiment62> tried pulse
[09:31] <Xperiment62> no luck there
[09:31] <Xperiment62> and i havent ever been given any output from them
[09:32] <Xperiment62> im telling you what i know
[09:32] <soren> mplayer doesn't give you any output?
[09:32] <Xperiment62> your asking for information i dont have
[09:32] <Xperiment62> ti gives regular output
[09:32] <soren> Well, /I/ certainly don't have it.
[09:32] <soren> Let's see it.
[09:32] <Xperiment62> umm
[09:32] <Xperiment62> how can i do this
[09:32] <soren> regular output != no output
[09:32] <Xperiment62> from CLI
[09:33] <Xperiment62> regular output = nothing of interest to the situation
[09:33] <soren> pastebinit, for instance.
[09:33] <Xperiment62> umm
[09:33] <Xperiment62> im in CLI
[09:33] <soren> pastebinit - command-line pastebin client
[09:34] <Xperiment62> so you want me to instal a pastebin client?
[09:34] <soren> No. I want you to show me the output from mplayer. I'm *suggesting* that you use a pastebin client for that. That seems reasonable.
[09:35] <soren> If you've got a better way, that's fine.
[09:35] <soren> ssh from another machine or whatever.
[09:35] <soren> I'm just interested in the output.
[09:35] <Xperiment62> oh yeah
[09:35] <Xperiment62> fyi
[09:35] <Xperiment62> i dont ahve anotehr machine
[09:35] <Xperiment62> thats the whol reason for wanting sound
[09:35] <Xperiment62> my brotehr killed my IDE controller on my main
[09:35] <Xperiment62> so ive had to revert to using my server
[09:36] <Xperiment62> ill install a pastebin client
[09:36] <soren> Ok. Well, if you've got a better way to show me the output, that's fine. You just asked med how to do it.
[09:36] <soren> If you can dump it in a file an put in on a webserver somewhere, that's cool.
[09:37] <Xperiment62> that would be a good idea
[09:37] <Xperiment62> if i hadnt killed my apache server a couple of weeks ago
[09:37] <Xperiment62> unless
[09:37] <Xperiment62> nah
[09:38] <Xperiment62> chuck me an example of what i should be doing with pastebin init
[09:38] <soren> Dunno. never used it myself.
[09:39] <Xperiment62> like what command should i run to use it to output the output from a command?
[09:39] <Xperiment62> hrmm
[09:40] <Xperiment62> i think ive got it figured out
[09:40] <Xperiment62> wont be a minute or two
[09:42] <Xperiment62> http://pastebin.com/f20b3558a
[09:43] <Xperiment62> that work>?
[09:44] <Xperiment62> that was usign mplayer filename >> alsa.txt
[09:44] <Xperiment62> then pastebininit -i alsa.txt
[09:44] <soren> Yes.
[09:44] <Xperiment62> col
[09:44] <Xperiment62> cool*
[09:46] <soren> Could you send the output of amixer as well?
[09:46] <Xperiment62> umm
[09:46] <Xperiment62> one sec
[09:47] <Xperiment62> http://pastebin.com/fd8fa4f
[09:47] <soren> Your master is muted.
[09:47] <Xperiment62> really?
[09:47] <Xperiment62> why would it be muted?
[09:47] <Xperiment62> thats just bizzare
[09:48] <soren> *shrug*
[09:48] <Xperiment62> know how to remedy the situation?
[09:49] <soren> Unmute it with your favourite mixer application?
[09:50] <Xperiment62> umm
[09:50] <Xperiment62> i dont ahve a favourite
[09:50] <Xperiment62> or have one that i really know how to use fully
[09:50] <Xperiment62> as i dotn often use a server as a desktop machine
[09:51] <soren> You said earlier that you had turned up the volume... What did you use for that?
[09:52] <Xperiment62> my amp
[09:52] <soren> Eh?
[09:52] <soren> ....
[09:52] <Xperiment62> external
[09:52] <soren> So you never touched your sound cards mixer settings?
[09:52] <Xperiment62> no
[09:53] <soren> ....
[09:53] <soren> I see.
[09:54] <soren> Now would be a good time to start doing so.
[09:54] <Xperiment62> aah
[09:54] <Xperiment62> found it
[09:54] <soren> Actually, before asking about why you don't have any sound output would be an even better time. :/
[09:54] <Xperiment62> tinkered around in alsamixer
[09:54] <Xperiment62> and for some bizzare reason all my outputs were muted
[09:55] <Xperiment62> tried random keys and found the muting key
[09:59] <Xperiment62> thankyou soren
[10:02] <suigeneris> hah! and you said "gah" when I asked "did you unmute it?"
[10:07] <soren> suigeneris: He also didn't want us to treat him like an idiot.
[10:29] <lukehasnoname> nijaba: Thank you for updates to the KVM documentation
[10:30] <lukehasnoname> I've been wanting this for a while, it looks good so far. Haven't tested the instructions, but I hope to when I have a chance later this week
[10:31] <nijaba> lukehasnoname: I merely reordered the instructions and split it in multiple page so that it is a bit less scary
[10:31] <nijaba> but thanks
[10:32] <lukehasnoname> the instructions are updated for hardy/interpid, and the wording is more informative rather than 'cp this into console and you have kvm!'
[10:40] <UndertakerX2> Could some one help me with this error? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/115946/
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> installed aclocal
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[10:41] <UndertakerX2> dont believe so, sudo apt-get aclocal ?
[10:42] <UndertakerX2> that right?
[10:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-file tells me its in the automake package
[10:44] <UndertakerX2> so if i install automake i should be good to go right>
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> until the next missing dependancy yes
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> what are you trying to install?
[10:45] <UndertakerX2> xbbt backend for gazelle
[10:49] <UndertakerX2> that fixxed that but have a new error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/115951/
[10:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah. they should provide a list of dependancies needed to build it, eitehr in the package (Eg, in an INSTALL file) or on their site
[10:51] <UndertakerX2> yeah but im not sure what is already on my system and whats not, and dotn want to overwrite anything
[10:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> !be
[10:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> bah.
[10:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> !build-essential
[10:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> UndertakerX2, ^^
[10:51] <UndertakerX2> i will check that out, thanks
[11:09] <godsyn> nealmcb: I just wanted to stop in and say thanks again. I just google'd my nick (I'm that bored) and our conversation ( http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/20/%23ubuntu-server.txt ) came up.
[11:12] <UndertakerX2> Can some one help with this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/115951/ ?
[11:17] <suigeneris> is this channel logged?
[11:17] <suigeneris> !log
[11:18] <godsyn> UndertakerX2, do you have libtool installed?
[11:19] <UndertakerX2> i used this command: apt-get install cmake g++ libboost-date-time-dev libboost-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-serialization-dev make zlib1g-dev
[11:19] <godsyn> new to linux?
[11:19] <UndertakerX2> a biot yes :p
[11:19] <UndertakerX2> bit*
[11:20] <godsyn> hehe, ok. Echo back the results from "aptitude search libtool". I'm only interested in the ones that are installed (they'll have an "i" in front).
[11:23] <UndertakerX2> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/115977/
[11:23] <UndertakerX2> there ya go
[11:24] <godsyn> aptitude install libtool, then run your above command.
[11:25] <UndertakerX2> that worked, thanks!
[11:26] <UndertakerX2> you would think they could list that in the dpendincies ya know :p
[11:26] <godsyn> no prob. enjoy XBT (just a guess).
[11:26] <UndertakerX2> close enough
[11:27] <UndertakerX2> gazelle, xbbt back end
[11:27] <UndertakerX2> i used to work on a tbdev install for a friend awhile back so wanted to play around with gazelle
[11:29] <suigeneris> the other day ScottK gave me a command to see inside a certificate, but I don't remember. does anybody know?
[11:29] <suigeneris> openssl x509 something
[11:30] <UndertakerX2> gosyn, used make and most of it went alright untill this part http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/115992/
[11:31] <UndertakerX2> sorry godsyn, typing skills are horrid tonight
[11:31] <godsyn> reading up on gazelle
[11:32] <UndertakerX2> k thanks
[11:32] <UndertakerX2> suigeneris: http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/openssl_x509.1.asp that what you want?
[11:32] <godsyn> the 1st list of dependancies. did they install ok? (apache / etc)
[11:33] <UndertakerX2> yep
[11:34] <UndertakerX2> if memorey serves me right, i can gdouble check if you like
[11:35] <UndertakerX2> the front end is up and running fine, but the guise i was using says i need xbbt but the offical instal docs did not
[11:37] <godsyn> http://projectgazelle.org/viewtopic.php?pid=982#p982
[11:38] <godsyn> out f date makefile :(
[11:38] <godsyn> **of
[11:39] <UndertakerX2> thanks let me try that
[11:44] <godsyn> My shift is over and my replacement here (datacenter). Best of luck!
[11:45] <suigeneris> UndertakerX2, thanks, with a little trial and error, i managed to see it
[11:45] <UndertakerX2> thanks godsyn
[11:46] <UndertakerX2> suigeneris: no problem glad to help
[12:18] <dou213> can someone here help me with my ftp-server? installed vsftpd, in config no anonymous login possible, mount --bind the public folder with one folder from /home/user/, then configured FTP over SSL (like on this site over here: http://www.zeroathome.de/wordpress/ftp-und-webdav-fuer-euren-ubuntu-server/) but now when i go in FileZilla and try to connect, it fails...
[12:22] <dou213> configs in FileZilla: host: ip-address of pc behind the router (i'm @ home), Port: 21, Servertype: FTP over SSL (explicit encryption), Logontype: normal with user and password from the users on the server machine
[12:24] <Deeps> no idea about filezilla i'm afraid, however there should be some output somewhere, either in the server logs in /var/log, or from your client (in terms of what it recieved from the server as an error, if anything)
[12:25] <dou213> hi Deeps, from my client (on windows *baaah*) nothing there, only connection failed... checking now the logs on the server machine
[12:26] <dou213> in which log file would there be information about this?
[12:27] <Deeps> auth.log maybe? if there's a vsftpd folder it may be in there? syslog?
[12:31] <soren> What does it mean when ping says "source quench"?
[12:32] <dou213> just seen that vsftpd created a new user: ftp, i think i must login with that user then... Deeps, can u please have a look on the configuration on that link i've sent? i know it is foreign language, have a look only at the commands to run, maybe you get an idea what the problem is... the commands from FTP - Server section to FTP over SSL
[12:32] <Deeps> "destination too busy", says cisco on google
[12:32] <soren> Deeps: Google, huh? I should try that.
[12:32] <Deeps> soren: ;)
[12:33] <Deeps> dou213: i dunno, ive never used vsftpd
[12:33] <Deeps> dou213: it "appears" to be ok, but i honestly dont know
[12:34] <Deeps> soren: "Source Quench Messages is an IP ICMP message implying the following. The server is getting data at to high a rate and can not buffer it. This messages then means please send data in smaller bursts." if that helps ;_
[12:34] <dou213> Deeps, ok mate thx anyway, i'll try to figure it out myself.. maybe i'll get lucky
[13:01] <UndertakerX2> how can i downgrade to gcc-4.1 and g++-4.1 ?
[13:05] <suigeneris> !downgrads
[13:05] <suigeneris> !downgrade
[13:06] <UndertakerX2> im not downgrading an entire version of ubuntu am i? :s
[13:08] <ScottK> UndertakerX2: There are separate packages for differenct GCC versions.
[13:09] <ScottK> UndertakerX2: You want to install gcc-4.1 packages and then change the gcc symlink to point there.
[13:10] <UndertakerX2> well i have a make file that seems to be compiled with gcc-4.1 and g++-4.1, just looking for the easiest route to resolve this issue
[13:12] <UndertakerX2> would it be easiest to change the makefile and instal 4.1?
[13:12] <UndertakerX2> rather then completley downgrading
[13:16] <UndertakerX2> ScottK: where is the symlink located?
[13:17] <Deeps> UndertakerX2: run: which gcc
[13:17] <Deeps> UndertakerX2: or: ls -l `which gcc`
[13:19] <UndertakerX2> thanks, do i do this for g++-4.1 to?
[13:25] <UndertakerX2> i cant seem to make that work for g++
[13:28] <ScottK> Dunno about g++
[13:30] <UndertakerX2> ok thanks
[13:34] <Deeps> # ls -l `which g++`
[13:34] <Deeps> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2008-10-15 11:17 /usr/bin/g++ -> g++-4.2
[13:42] <UndertakerX2> Deeps: thanks, it says i need to use -E or -x.
[13:43] <Deeps> ?
[13:43] <Deeps> what is "it"?
[13:43] <UndertakerX2> the command above
[13:44] <UndertakerX2> ->
[13:44] <UndertakerX2> that one
[13:45] <UndertakerX2> ] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2008-10-15 11:17 /usr/bin/g++ -> g++-4.2
[13:46] <Deeps> i dont see "it" saying you need to use -E or -x?
[13:46] <UndertakerX2> g++: -E or -x required when input is from standard input
[13:47] <Deeps> what are you trying to do?
[13:47] <Deeps> if you're trying to make a symlink for g++ to point to g++-4.1, you shouldn't be running g++...
[13:48] <Deeps> rm /usr/bin/g++ && ln -s /usr/bin/g++-4.1 /usr/bin/g++
[13:48] <Deeps> at a guess, assuming /usr/bin/g++-4.1 exists when you install g++-4.1
[13:50] <UndertakerX2> sorry deeps im feeling rather sick i think this is going to have to wait untill tomorow
[13:51] <UndertakerX2> Deeps: thanks for all the help though
[13:57] <soren> I slept all the way to Berlin, so I thought the flight was longer, but it was only about an hour or so.
[13:57] <soren> Err... Whoops
[13:57] <soren> :)
[14:12] <zul> how do I tell apt that I have a sources.list.d as well and to use it?
[14:33] <lapo> hi
[14:52] <lapo> is there any documentaion about clustering with hardy? I'm playing with heartbeat+drbd atm, I would like to setup a fail-over samba server
[14:59] <kinnaz> anyone has exp with ibm server with lsi 1030 on ubuntu ?
[15:13] <dou213> hi guys, i can't connect to my ftp-server from intern (behind the router) with SSL, unencrypted it works, but not with SSL
[15:23] <dou213> can somebody help fix this problem, preferably someone with experience in FileZilla too :)
[15:25] <Faust-C> dou213: ports open? are they being forwarded
[15:27] <dou213> Faust-C, in router i didn't open port 21
[15:27] <dou213> should i?
[15:27] <DogWater> does anyone know what package i need to install to get the lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/source/ or lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/build/ folders?
[15:28] <Faust-C> dou213: what port does it want for SSL
[15:28] <Faust-C> forward that port
[15:28] <dou213> Faust-C, don't know, how can i find that out? probably 443 (default port for SSL)
[15:29] <Deeps> Faust-C: he's accessing an ftp server inside his lan from within his lan
[15:29] <dou213> Deeps, yes right
[15:29] <dou213> that's why i thought i don't need (for now) to open the ports
[15:29] <Faust-C> heh cant work if you dont let it
[15:30] <dou213> Faust-C, ok so open port 21 y?
[15:31] <Faust-C> dou213: ? no what port does your ftp server use for SSL, you need to make sure its listening for it
[15:31] <Faust-C> and what do logs say?
[15:31] <Faust-C>  /var/log/<whatever ftp server app>
[15:31] <Deeps> Faust-C: he can connect to his ftp without SSL encryption fine without any ports forwarded because it's on the same lan, no routing involved, it's just not working with SSL
[15:31] <Faust-C> Deeps: i read that wrong
[15:32] <dou213> thx Deeps for clearing him up, sry for my bad english
[15:32] <Faust-C> maybe there is a error with the cert
[15:32] <Faust-C> dou213: what ftpd are you using ?
[15:33] <dou213> svftpd
[15:33] <dou213> vsftpd
[15:33] <dou213> w8, i'm giving you the link with what commands i've run to configure it
[15:33] <Faust-C> k
[15:34] <dou213> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeroathome.de%2Fwordpress%2Fftp-und-webdav-fuer-euren-ubuntu-server%2F&sl=de&tl=en
[15:34] <dou213> btw, very nice site :) translate.google.com, found it out just today
[15:35] <dou213> Faust-C, and i've been reading also these pages: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91887   &&  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293
[15:36] <dou213> but the cfg i followed is that from the first site, just without his shell script
[15:40] <Faust-C> k
[15:43] <Faust-C> brb
[15:44] <dou213> i sure hope that we can make it work with SSL, cuz the main purpose of me setting a FTP-server is to access it from outside my lan
[15:45] <Faust-C> dou213: imo (in my opinion), it would be simpler to use sftp
[15:45] <Faust-C> but thats me, anyways brb
[15:45] <ScottK> +1 for sftp
[15:46] <dou213> Faust-C, maybe you're right, but vsftpd is easier (so i've read, but not convinced :) )
[15:46] <dou213> it can be something wrong with the certificates
[15:46] <dou213> just llok @ the first page
[15:47] <dou213> he creates a new certificate, maybe that's the problem, cuz i've read in some other tutorials that this is not needed
[15:47] <Faust-C> well i would create a new cert
[15:47] <Faust-C> but im odd
[15:48] <Faust-C> dou213: btw did you look at logs?
[15:48] <dou213> i've looked at tcpdump .. but nothing interesting there
[15:48] <Faust-C> brb
[15:48] <dou213> for me
[15:48] <Faust-C> heh no look at logs /var/log/vsftpd
[15:48] <dou213> looking in logs now
[15:52] <dou213> Mon Feb  9 16:50:49 2009 [pid 4436] CONNECT: Client "192.168.1.31"
[15:52] <dou213> Mon Feb  9 16:50:53 2009 [pid 4435] [alex] OK LOGIN: Client "192.168.1.31"
[15:53] <dou213> this appears every time when i try to connect from FileZilla
[15:53] <dou213> but it doesn't connect
[15:53] <dou213> i can also paste the messages from FileZilla, maybe that'll help some?
[15:53] <Deeps> maybe tell filezilla to use tls instead of ssl explicit?
[15:54] <Deeps> odds are you should be getting some kind of error in filezilla though taht'll be telling you what's going wrong
[15:55] <dou213> Deeps and Faust-C, i'll paste it on pastebin, too long to do it here w8
[15:57] <dou213> http://pastebin.com/d67007892
[15:57] <dou213> this is the information from FileZilla
[15:57] <dou213> everything works just fine till connection timeout :S
[15:58] <dou213> Deeps, already tried with TLS/SSL, disconnected right away, won't even work for as long as SSL explicit will
[16:00] <Deeps> firewall on the ftp server?
[16:00] <dou213> Deeps, really don't know, probably iptables (common in ubuntu)
[16:01] <Deeps> dou213: do you have a firewall enabled? paste `iptables -nvL` to a bin
[16:01] <dou213> k
[16:02] <dou213> http://pastebin.com/d44990528
[16:03] <dou213> Deeps, i see now maybe fail2ban is causing the prob
[16:03] <dou213> ?
[16:05] <Deeps> nah, it looks ok
[16:05] <Deeps> nothing indicating why it's timing out trying to do dir listing
[16:05] <dou213> so, do i have a fw enabled?
[16:06] <dou213> should i simply try a reinstall?
[16:06] <dou213> like sudo apt-get --purge remove vsftpd   and then install it anew
[16:09] <Deeps> paste your vzsftpd.conf
[16:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #326517 in ubuntu "Ethernet OK but no internet (dup-of: 307204)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326517
[16:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #327233 in samba (main) "package samba 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327233
[16:11] <dou213> http://pastebin.com/d973e606
[16:12] <dou213> Deeps, in here is posted my vsftpd.conf: http://pastebin.com/d973e606 ... tell me if there is something fishy about it
[16:14] <Deeps> lines 139-141
[16:14] <Deeps> you dont appear to have a key file defined
[16:16] <dou213> only by commenting line 141 i could make it work without SSL
[16:16] <dou213> so unencrypted
[16:18] <Deeps> gtg, gl, bbl
[16:19] <dou213> :) ok Deeps, thx anyway... catch u later hopefully
[17:43] <chrisadams> hi guys - is it bad practice to restart apache using /etc/init.d/apache2 restart?
[17:44] <Nafallo> chrisadams: kills the active connections for sure.
[17:50] <chrisadams> Nafallo: thought as much
[17:50] <chrisadams> is there a way to run it gracefully from /etc/init.d?
[17:50] <Nafallo> reload
[17:50] <chrisadams> I get this response when i try:
[17:50] <chrisadams> root@machine:/usr/sbin# /usr/sbin/apache2 -k graceful-stop
[17:50] <Nafallo> also called "graceful" ;-)
[17:50] <chrisadams> apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[17:51] <Nafallo> invoke-rc.d apache2 reload
[17:51] <chrisadams> that's the graceful way restart the server?
[17:52] <ivoks> hello
[17:54] <chrisadams> Nafallo: thanks, that works a charm
[18:00] <jmedina> any there anyone have problems with tg4 driver in hardy?
[18:03] <jmedina> it is tg3: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11)
[18:10] <lamont> MTU:1492 <-- WTF is causing PPPoE to set the MTU down?
[18:14] <ivoks> physics
[18:15] <ivoks> it's never 1500 on pppoe
[18:15] <ivoks> it can't be
[18:16] <ivoks> PPPoE consumes 8 more bytes of data for its own purposes, which leaves us with 1492 of usable space for actual data.
[18:18] <ivoks> ScottK: ping
[18:18] <ScottK> ivoks: Pong.
[18:18] <ivoks> ScottK: hi there
[18:18] <ivoks> ScottK: i'm working on mail stack atm
[18:18] <ivoks> ScottK: and i was wondering...
[18:19] <ivoks> ScottK: what do you think about enalbing managesieve by default in dovecot?
[18:19] <pecisk> hi people, have you encountered situation when you have LVM volume mounted on some temporary directory, umount /tmp/some_dir answers that device is busy, but no lsof nor fuser doesn't show anything running in that file system, there are also no strange processes in ps ax
[18:19] <ivoks> ScottK: and making an effort of moving roundcube into main for jaunty+1 (which would include patch for managing sieve scripts)
[18:19] <pecisk> I can't reboot box because of Xen VMs
[18:20] <ScottK> ivoks: I think I don't know enough to have an opinion.  I think seive is really not for everyone.
[18:20] <ivoks> ScottK: well, if we set dovecot as LDA, then we get sieve 'for free'
[18:20] <ivoks> ScottK: so, we would have sieve, only question is will we enable 'remote' management of scripts
[18:20] <ScottK> Yes, I'm just thinking about it adds complexity to the system.
[18:21] <ScottK> I see.
[18:21] <ivoks> that's true
[18:21] <ivoks> the only problem i see is that none of ubuntu clients supports sieve remote management
[18:21] <ScottK> What does?
[18:21] <ivoks> and roundcube, which does have a patch for it, would support it
[18:21] <ivoks> but roundcube is not in main
[18:22] <ivoks> so we shouldn't consider it at all in this case
[18:22] <ScottK> As I said, I don't have a strong opinion.
[18:23] <ivoks> ok
[18:23] <ivoks> i'll raise that question tomorrow on meeting
[18:23] <ivoks> thanks
[18:25] <jmedina> ivoks: my vote por managesieve in dovecot
[18:25] <ivoks> jmedina: :)
[18:26] <ivoks> how do you manage sieve remotly?
[18:26] <ivoks> with thunderbird?
[18:27] <jmedina> ivoks: Im just starting to use it, I recompiled dovecot from intrepid in hardy to get managesieve support
[18:28] <ivoks> i see
[18:28] <jmedina> btw, I remember about a security bug report about managesieve, something about user can modify other users scripts
[18:28] <ivoks> what mail client do you use?
[18:28] <jmedina> ivoks: kmail
[18:28] <ivoks> well, i'll check security stuff, of course
[18:28] <ivoks> kmail supports managesieve, right?
[18:29] <jmedina> yeap, but I have not tried
[18:29] <kees> bug 307291
[18:29] <ivoks> there's an open bug in evolution for sieve
[18:30] <jmedina> kees: thanks, that is the bug
[18:30] <ivoks> great
[18:30] <ivoks> :)
[18:30] <ivoks> kees: :*
[18:30] <jmedina> dman, this broadcom nic doesnt works with xen's kernel :S
[18:31] <kees> :)  it's been a low priority, but we'll be getting to fixing it.  If any one wants to get patches and do tests, we'd appreciate the help, of course.  :)
[18:31] <ivoks> hm... looks like that's an existing bug in jaunty too
[18:32] <ivoks> i'll have to check that out
[18:32] <jmedina> ivoks: I want to use IMP ingo for server side filtering
[18:32] <ivoks> why?
[18:32] <jmedina> I also read there is a thunderbird plugin for sive and of course kmail
[18:32] <ivoks> if you have kmail, you could do that from it
[18:33] <jmedina> ivoks: I use horde webmail
[18:33] <jmedina> yeap, but I want the webmail feature for customers
[18:33] <ivoks> it's ugly, isn't it? :)
[18:34] <jmedina> I always used maildrop, but I need something to create filters from webmail or another mail client withouth creating scripts manually
[18:36] <ivoks> so you would like to have managesieve in 'default ubuntu mail server stack'?
[18:39] <jmedina> ivoks: yeap, in fact I was testing managesive in dapper :D
[18:39] <ivoks> great
[18:40] <jmedina> I know a nothing about creating deb packages, I had to edit control by hand in order to compile in dapper
[18:40] <jmedina> I was using intrepid packages
[18:43] <ivoks> ok, i'll work on including sieve by default in ubuntu-mail-server package
[18:43] <ivoks> that will not be default in standard dovecot installation
[18:44] <ivoks> only if you install ubuntu-mail-server
[18:44] <kees> okay, I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates and my system still isn't doing automatic updates.  anyone have success with this?
[18:46] <ivoks> which one did you do?
[18:46] <ivoks> cron or apt.conf.d?
[18:46] <kees> the first one with apt.conf.d
[18:46] <ivoks> and you installed unattended-upgrades package?
[18:46] <kees> yeah: unattended-upgrades is already the newest version.
[18:47] <lamont> ivoks: if the underlying card supports jumbo frames, there's no reason it can't be 1500 on the ppp interface
[18:47] <ivoks> kees: i've tried that long time ago, and it worked :/
[18:48] <ivoks> kees: like 2 years ago :D
[18:48] <ivoks> lamont: well, i don't understand MTU so much, but if other side doesn't support jumbo frames, then i guess it shouldn't work?
[18:49] <ivoks> so much :)
[18:52] <lamont> ivoks: well, pathMTU discovery _should_ work, but then much of the internet drops ICMP unreachables, so it doesn't
[18:52] <lamont> and not having MTU=1500 sucks
[18:52] <ivoks> :)
[18:54] <ivoks> take care... see you tomorrow
[19:06] <grze_> hi guys, is there anyway to force a --prefix= like behaviour with dpkg?
[19:07] <jmedina> grze_: like --root ?
[19:10] <grze_> jmedina: seems to be the one!
[19:10] <jmedina> good
[19:10] <grze_> jmedina: does this also affect the resolution of dependencies?
[19:10] <jmedina> grze_: afaik, nop
[19:11] <jmedina> but Im not sure, never use it :D
[19:11] <grze_> jmedina: *phew* cool :)
[19:11] <grze_> in that case, fingers crossed
[19:11] <grze_> thanks :)
[19:21] <nonent> i'm getting a stranger error in hardy trying to setup racoon.  racoon does it's modprobes and tries to load   /lib/modules/2.6.24_23_server/kernel/net/ipv6/ipcomp6.ko    which doesn't exist.   the problem is in the path - should be replaced with _, but i can't figure for the life of me why it's doing that.   if i modprobe myself, it works fine
[19:29] <nonent> wow, found it, racoon-tool seems to have a typo in it.   i shall file the bug
[20:29] <AndyGraybeal> i remember someone in here saying something like they were going to write up some Bacula install instructions.  the ones i've found on the web ... are still very confusing to me and i'm having a hard time getting bacula to work
[21:33] <ScottK> I think that was ivoks.
[22:15] <kansan> how do i install the php bindings for the GD graphics library on ubuntu hardy LTS server?
[22:15] <Jeeves__> 'apt-get install php5-gd'?
[22:17] <kansan> ftw!
[22:17] <kansan> is there a way to 'name' certain gnome-terminal instances?  or should i be using screen?
[22:25] <ScottK> As soon as you said Gnome you were asking in the wrong channel.
[22:36] <firestarter87> hi everybody
[22:36] <firestarter87> i have a problem with my ubuntu-server
[22:36] <firestarter87> i can't update my packages
[22:37] <firestarter87> i get a 'w' error (can't connect) but my internet connection is up
[22:37] <jdobrien> kirkland: have a second for a question about screenbin?
[22:37] <firestarter87> my source list seems ok...
[22:38] <kirkland> jdobrien: howdy
[22:38] <jdobrien> hi
[22:38] <ScottK> firestarter87: What's the exact error?
[22:38] <jdobrien> my guests get prompted for a password...but it looks like it's getting their ssh keys
[22:38] <jdobrien> kirkland: ^^
[22:39] <kirkland> jdobrien: which images are you using?
[22:39] <kirkland> jdobrien: thanks for the reminder, i have a bunch of changes to screenbin that I need to upload
[22:39] <jdobrien> kirkland: ami-814aaee8
[22:42] <kirkland> jdobrien: hmm
[22:42] <kirkland> jdobrien: what are the ownership/perms on the .ssh/authorized_keys file?
[22:42] <jdobrien> kirkland: when i created the image, should I have installed anything else? I did install openssh :-)
[22:42] <kirkland> jdobrien: ;-)  shouldn't need to, no
[22:43] <jdobrien> kirkland: one sec
[22:43] <kirkland> jdobrien: can you point me to the URL of the ssh keys?
[22:43] <jdobrien> hmm
[22:43] <kirkland> jdobrien: i've seen some people incorrectly put ssh keys in lauchpad that have whitespace in them
[22:43] <jdobrien> owner only
[22:43] <jdobrien> -rw-r-----
[22:46] <Deeps> should be owner readable only i think
[22:46] <Deeps> chmod 600
[22:47] <kansan> in general ; better to use _ between words or - ?  (for compatibility in linux and in bash etc)
[22:47] <kirkland> jdobrien: yeah, chmod 600 and chown guest:guest
[22:47] <kirkland> kansan: for what in particular?
[22:48] <kansan> kirkland, i just thought one was good/bad
[22:48] <kansan> kirkland, what permissions should /home/user    have
[22:48] <kansan> kirkland, specifically for ssh access
[22:48] <kirkland> kansan: $HOME is usually 755
[22:49] <kirkland> kansan: but some people make it 700
[22:49] <kansan> 755 is what mine is set on right now
[22:49] <kirkland> jcastro: Nafallo: https://edge.launchpad.net/~screen-profiles/+archive/ppa
[22:49] <kirkland> nijaba: ^
[22:50] <Nafallo> ooooh
[22:50] <Nafallo> o_O
[22:50] <jcastro> kirkland: ta!
[22:50] <Nafallo> that's like... killing my manual installs :-D
[22:50] <kirkland> Nafallo: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/screen-profiles
[22:50] <kirkland> Nafallo: get to translating :-)
[22:51] <kirkland> jcastro: you too...  we need some 'troit-speak in there :-)
[22:51] <jdobrien> kirkland: sorry..not working
[22:51] <Nafallo> hehe. we'll see if I can find time during the week :-)
[22:51] <kirkland> jdobrien: who owns that file?
[22:51] <jcastro> kirkland: btw that launch slowness I mentioned was indeed fixed by updating it
[22:51] <kirkland> jcastro: rocktastic ;-)
[22:53] <jdobrien> kirkland: root guest
[22:53] <kirkland> jdobrien: change that to guest:guest
[22:53] <kansan> how do i recursively list all files & directories for top level directory /foo/
[22:53] <kirkland> find .
[22:53] <jdobrien> kirkland: tried, it won't let me :-(
[22:54] <kirkland> jdobrien: well, you need to be root (or ubuntu) to do that
[22:54] <kirkland> jdobrien: that's a bug that i've fixed (and need to upload)
[22:54] <jdobrien> kirkland: :-)
[22:55] <kirkland> jdobrien: i'm really sorry about that
[22:55] <kirkland> jdobrien: you should be able to ssh into that image as root with your key.pem file
[22:55] <jdobrien> kirkland: it's totally fine
[22:56] <gluck> Hi, is there any possibility to enable sound on Ubuntu Server?
[22:57] <dou213> hi everybody, Deeps you there?
[22:58] <jdobrien> kirkland: thanks for the help, i'll work it out later
[22:58] <kirkland> jdobrien: no problem, i'll try to get an update uploaded today/tomorrow
[23:10] <dou213> can somebody help me set up my ftp-server correctly? i am behind my router, trying to connect with FileZilla within the lan on an ubuntu server box, when i connect unencrypted it works just fine, when i do it with SSL it gives me an error: Connection timed out!
[23:10] <dou213> my basic configuration: http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeroathome.de%2Fwordpress%2Fftp-und-webdav-fuer-euren-ubuntu-server%2F&sl=de&tl=en
[23:10] <dou213> just without his shell script
[23:11] <dou213> tried already a lot of things, here is my vsftpd.conf : http://pastebin.com/d973e606
[23:12] <dou213> here is the response i get from FileZilla while trying to SSL: http://pastebin.com/d67007892
[23:12] <dou213> i appreciate any kind of help
[23:20] <gluck> Hi, is there any possibility to enable sound on Ubuntu Server?
[23:28] <lukehasnoname> I'm trying to use "sudo apt-get --install-recommends install ubuntu-virt-server" but it doesn't say it's going to install recommended components
[23:28] <lukehasnoname> any ideas?
[23:29] <jtaji> lukehasnoname: the package has no recommends: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-virt-server
[23:30] <jtaji> and even if it or a dependent package did, it doesn't specifically tell you what it's going to install is because of recommends
[23:30] <lukehasnoname> Ah hell
[23:30] <jtaji> also starting with intrepid, recommends are installed by default
[23:31] <lukehasnoname> the package site shows no suggested packages, but apt-get shows several
[23:32] <jtaji> how's that?
[23:35] <lukehasnoname> unless one of its packages has suggested packages that are being pulled in
[23:35] <jtaji> it will do that