[00:00] <nightrid3r> S4nD3r: might be an hybernation problem
[00:00] <mrpockets> GYAHHH WAHT THE H!LLLL!!!
[00:00] <Dartel> blizzle: TY
[00:00] <S4nD3r> Is it possible to correct?
[00:00] <Dartel> My bad
[00:00] <S4nD3r> I'll turn off screensaver !!
[00:00] <blizzle> Dartel, And yes, you can nominate where it installs to. Not sure you can run it "portably" if you install to USB, though.
[00:01] <Dartel> I cn not wait to install this on a quad core system
[00:01] <MrBC> Can gnome's desktop icon text be changed so that all the icons line up?
[00:01] <Dartel> Well the USB is mounted so it SHOULD work like a hard drive, Yes?
[00:01] <MrBC> Maybe a hint of a filename?
[00:01] <blizzle> Dartel, GoogleEarth on quadcore? *laugh* It's running oon Wine, so you'll only be exploiting a single core afaik.
[00:02] <blizzle> MrBC, Have you tried right clicking on the desktop?
[00:02] <Dartel> Google earth has Linux versions
[00:02] <MrBC> Yeah...
[00:02] <MrBC> Some options are there...
[00:02] <slusken> umm hi! anyone know how i disable my powermizer override options in xorg.conf? :P
[00:02] <S4nD3r> im not using nvidia, its an Intel G985. How to change it?
[00:02] <G-Blunted> So do you use Synaptic installer to install new kernels?
[00:02] <MrBC> But not the options I'm looking for...
[00:02] <blizzle> Dartel, No, GoogleEarth has Linux versions which are actually wine installations with the Windows version. *chuckle* You've been suckered.
[00:03] <MrBC> If a filename is big, the whole filename is displayed under the icon.
[00:03] <MrBC> I'm trying to get that to reduce without renaming.
[00:03] <nightrid3r> Dartel: like corel did with coreldraw
[00:03] <Dartel> LOL I have a S3 Virge M+ graphics chip
[00:03] <mrpockets> I can't become root in my overall X session, can I?
[00:04] <prahal_> Pyles17, I would try to upgrade (move old one out or /lib/firmware and install new one from http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads
[00:04] <usser> mrpockets, you can but its not recommended
[00:04] <Dartel> blizzle:  Oh did not know that
[00:04] <mrpockets> usser, I know its not recommended, and I know this chan doesn't suggust even telling peopel how
[00:04] <prahal_> as the config80211 is  by default configured for US this cannot be the issue
[00:04] <blizzle> mrpockets, Login as root, you are root. Except by default root on ubuntu has no password set, so you'd need to address that first.
[00:04] <prahal_> and the other side (what was in the daemon for ipw version) is now in the firmware
[00:05] <isase> you can't login GUI as root without setting AllowRootLogin to true in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:05] <mrpockets> blizzle, It says I cannot log in this way with the administrator when i try to log into the session as "root"
[00:05] <isase> mrpockets: you have to edit, as root, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:05] <isase> search for the line that says "allowroot"
[00:05] <Pyles17> prahal_: right. next computer i'm getting is going to have hardware that doesn't suck
[00:05] <isase> and change "false" to "true" (without quotes, mind you)
[00:05] <isase> then you have to restart gnome
[00:05] <Pyles17> with linux
[00:05] <mrpockets> isase, thanks
[00:06] <Dartel> Some of this reminds me of my old Amiga days but its differant enough to slow my learning curve
[00:07] <blizzle> mrpockets, You could just sudo apt-get install slim
[00:07] <mrpockets> isase, need to reboot after editing said .conf?
[00:07] <prahal_> Pyles17, well as it seems it not only sucks with linux .( it is hardcoded in hardware for the US when bought in the US .  And the firmware only vallidate this . This means that if one travels then boom no way to switch the regulatory settings
[00:07] <isase> mrpockets: no, just restart gnome
[00:07] <isase> *gdm
[00:07] <Dartel> I will delete the Google earth files will be too much for system to run I think
[00:07] <blizzle> mrpockets, gdm is a bit heavier, slim is a lighter login manager. Just a thought :)
[00:07] <blizzle> Ah, he gone.
[00:07] <prahal_> though I like Intel hardware next time I ll take a close look at what they are selling before buying
[00:07] <Pyles17> prahal_: i saw that. ridiculous
[00:07] <isase> mrpockets: as root ,run gdm-restart from command line
[00:08] <todd> I was wondering if there is an easy way to "back up" user accounts (IE: there password and files)?
[00:08] <mrpockets> This would be a whole lot easier if it just told me which goddamn machien it wants the password for
[00:08] <Pollywog> hello, I upgraded a hardy system to Intrepid but the old image will not boot (file not found error) and the new image asks for a LUKS password and the old LUKS password does not work.  Is this a common upgrade problem with Intrepid?
[00:08] <Dartel> WB mrpockets
[00:08] <mrpockets> "localhost" isnt very specific when networking whathaveyou
[00:09] <mrpockets> and its not the local host, because its not accepting the password
[00:09] <isase> mrpockets: it wants the password for the machine the printer is connected to
[00:09] <blizzle> Dartel, On your machine, it will be too heavy without doubt.
[00:09] <mrpockets> isase, its a networked pritner over ethernet
[00:09] <mrpockets> and it won't take the password for the server supporting it
[00:09] <isase> mrpockets: what's server OS?
[00:10] <mrpockets> win2k3
[00:10] <isase> mrpockets: and hte printer is shared, right?
[00:10] <isase> (jsut making sure)
[00:10] <mrpockets> yeah
[00:10] <mrpockets> 'heh
[00:10] <skate2> anyone use znc? i dont get how to use it and cant find any good howto on it
[00:10] <blizzle> mrpockets, user/pass for an account on the win2k3 box.
[00:10] <and2> I'm having a heck of a time adding a display and was hoping someone might be able to tell me how to gracefully restart the x server?  I keep getting pushed into low res display moe when I try ctrl alt backspace
[00:10] <isase> was about to suggest that, blizzle
[00:10] <mrpockets> no problems on the other windows machines
[00:10] <isase> windows != ubuntu
[00:10] <isase> :P
[00:10] <owner_> i have the same problem as and2
[00:10] <mrpockets> right
[00:11] <owner_> i found one way to fix the error, but it doesn't fix the resolution
[00:11] <mrpockets> I'm just saying the problem is with the Ubntuy machien, not the network or the share
[00:11] <pil> hi
[00:11] <blizzle> mrpockets, also check permissions in /etc/samba.smb.conf
[00:11] <Dillizar> !ultimate edition
[00:11] <isase> mrpockets: what is the error that it's hrowing up, exactly/
[00:11] <todd> how can I backup my users accounts so I can "restore" after a resinstall?
[00:11] <mrpockets> i enter password
[00:11] <blizzle> mrpockets, * /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:11] <Pollywog> hello, I upgraded a hardy system to Intrepid but the old image will not boot (file not found error) and the new image asks for a LUKS password and the old LUKS password does not work.  Is this a common upgrade problem with Intrepid?
[00:12] <mrpockets> and it says "adding pritner" for a few secconds
[00:12] <Dillizar> is ultimate edition a real ubuntu?
[00:12] <mrpockets> then asks for the password again
[00:12] <and2> anyone?  graceful x server restart
[00:12] <nightrid3r> Dillizar: not officialy
[00:12] <isase> and2: ctrl+shift+backspace
[00:12] <Pollywog> I guess I should just do a clean install of Intrepid
[00:12] <Pollywog> would that be best?
[00:12] <blizzle> isase, You know that's deprecated in jaunty, right?
[00:12] <and2> isase: thats not graceful
[00:13] <isase> blizzle: it works :P
[00:13] <Dillizar> nightrid3r but will still have support form the ubuntu comunity
[00:13] <isase> although i didn't know that
[00:13] <nightrid3r> Dillizar: yup
[00:13] <blizzle> isase, Not in jaunty.
[00:13] <isase> and2: apologies, then
[00:13] <isase> blizzle: i stand corrected then, still using Intrepid
[00:13] <owner_> my server gives me a low graphics error during bootup because i dont' have a monitor attached, how do i fix the resolution
[00:14] <mrpockets> blizzle, i'd edit smb.conf if i wanted to share it out from this location
[00:14] <freazer> My system was shut down abruptly and now I've got bad inodes!! I've used a livecd to repair them but some of my programs aren't working! firefox is giving me "illegal instruction" from command line, and I reinstall it but it still doesn't work. I've noticed other important system files like /etc/init.d/rc were damaged in small ways - can anybody help me repair and salvage my system??
[00:14] <todd> how can I backup my users accounts so I can "restore" after a resinstall?
[00:14] <prahal_> todd, 1/ the data (well /home/* ) second the permissions (tricky but you can count on any user/group above 1000 to be users and users'groups ... if you also want to retain the system groups where your users belongs - audio, netdev, plugdev, etc ... hard to tell how to best achieve that
[00:15] <Dillizar> nightrid3r what about gedubuntu or smt like that
[00:15] <isase> Dillizar: why not jsut use Ubuntu?
[00:15] <GeffIsLegend> anyone mind helping me to install fonts on my system? the stuff on the support fourms  istoo complicated....
[00:15] <S4nD3r> how to discover which video driver is installed?
[00:15] <todd> prahal: Thats exactly what I am looking for groups, and passwords, I mean there has to be a way right???
[00:15] <Dillizar> isase lol :D i am
[00:15] <nightrid3r> Dillizar: any ubuntu or derived system can be supported as far as its the ubuntu part that gives problems
[00:15] <MrBC> Can gnome's desktop icons only show part of the text insteadl of ALL of it so that the icons like up better?
[00:16] <MrBC> line up
[00:16] <Dillizar> lol nightrid3r
[00:16] <nightrid3r> Dillizar: the other parts will depend if people in here use it
[00:16] <drash> todd: there are numerous backup options available (do a websearch for more info i guess) ... but if you put your /home in a partition of its own (separated from the / system files) you can update or reinstall without the need for 'restore'. You might want to websearch for partition schemes in ubuntu (or linux in general)
[00:16] <isase> Dillizar: to answer what I think is your question, the "official" ubuntu distros are ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu server
[00:16] <GeffIsLegend> anyone mind helping me install fonts on my system please ? ubuntu8.10
[00:16] <freazer> When I try to run firefox (even in safemode) it says "illegal instruction" - so I tried sudo apt-get purge firefox and then sudo apt-get install firefox and I'm getting the same errors - I've run e2fsck -fy and it's not fixing any new inodes - any tips?
[00:17] <S4nD3r> ??
[00:17] <todd> drash: I know how to back up user files, how do I backup users???
[00:17] <Dillizar> GeffIsLegend go to home and show hiden folders and find the .fonts and put them there
[00:17] <isase> todd: it's not an easy, straightforward process - you're probably better off jsut recreating them after a reinstall
[00:17] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[00:17] <todd> drash: Already did a bunch of google searches, need more to go on
[00:17] <drash> todd: cfr isase
[00:17] <Cpudan80> How do I reload bash so that the new path variables take effect?
[00:17] <prahal_> todd, you could backup /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow /etc/gshadow ( withstanding the security issues)
[00:18] <freazer> drash: That isn't true at all! I've put my /home in another partition, and when i reinstalled _none_ of the users could login saying they could not have write permissions to their own folders!
[00:18] <GeffIsLegend> Dillizar i only see a .fontconfig, should i make a .font myself?
[00:18] <Dillizar> yes GeffIsLegend
[00:18] <GeffIsLegend> ok thanks ill try it
[00:18] <mrpockets> okay
[00:18] <meoblast001> why does " pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=bluetooth" cause pulseaudio t crash?
[00:18] <mrpockets> you guys where fullashit
[00:18] <mrpockets> it actually wanted the password for localhost
[00:18]  * Dartel pulls out his linux to english dictionary and tries to follow along
[00:18] <prahal_> but yes this is not straightforward . You d be better of exporting users and groups (non system ones ) to ldap/kerberos
[00:18] <_VIM_> !language | mrpockets
[00:19] <mrpockets> sry
[00:19] <isase> mrpockets: you said you tried that and it didnt work?
[00:19] <Pollywog> mrpockets: that is no way to get help
[00:19] <Dillizar> GeffIsLegend if you want to install the new vista font or other typical windows fonts i think you cant well the vista one you cant :D
[00:19] <MoTec> you all are awfull and useless! now someone help me with my problems, NOW!
[00:19] <mrpockets> isase, what i did, is click "connect to server" before trying to add the printer
[00:19] <todd> prahal_: Assuming I am root/admin if I drop in /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow /etc/gshadow, and install the same software, and the users files I should get the same system... basicly? are there any other files?
[00:19] <isase> MoTec: LOL
[00:19] <mrpockets> select connect to "Local Host"  and entered Root as the user
[00:19] <Kryzler> lol MoTec
[00:19] <freazer> Can anyone recommend a browser besides Firefox to use within ubuntu? I really need to browse google but this machine can't run firefox still ^^!!!!
[00:19] <prahal_> todd, no  sadly
[00:19] <mrpockets> then added it, and used the local root password when it prompted me
[00:19] <isase> freazer: lynx
[00:20] <Kryzler> what he said ^_^
[00:20] <todd> prahal: You mentioned security issues???
[00:20] <Kryzler> lynx is awesome
[00:20] <dellsucks> anyone have their entire system freezing with NetworkManager causing the problem when connecting to a certain network?
[00:20] <dellsucks> so annoying
[00:20] <Dillizar> what is your problem MoTec
[00:20] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> yes I can confirm
[00:20] <isase> Dillizar: sarcasm :P
[00:20] <MoTec> Dillizar: no problem, actually.. trying to help others.  that was sarcasim :)
[00:20] <G-Blunted> this system-tools-backends package never installs right....how can i fix that?
[00:20] <Dartel> MoTec: Take a seditive with half glass of whater pour rest on computer, problems solved
[00:20] <prahal_> todd, but you could add everything above 1000 uid without issues (for the system groups ownership , I guess one have to do it by hand ... but still ldap or nis seems better fitted
[00:20] <Dillizar> lol
[00:20] <Dillizar> "D
[00:20] <Dillizar> :D
[00:21] <MoTec> Dartel: how about multiple beers?
[00:21] <dellsucks> n8tuser: how do i fix it? right now i'm updating packages
[00:21] <Dillizar> help me MoTec :D
[00:21] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> nothing you can do, just do not switch networks
[00:21] <Dillizar> MoTec i have a big 8.10 problem
[00:21] <isase> todd: unless you're suing LDAP or something similar, it's not really practicalyl doable
[00:21] <isase> *using
[00:21] <freazer> Is there a command I can run that will scan my system files and programs and repair any that were damaged? basically a full reinstall without losing my settings or users?
[00:21] <prahal_> G-Blunted, you mean you are installing from sources ?
[00:21] <Ravenor> Has anybody got hibernate to work on Hardy through uswsusp?
[00:21] <Ravenor> On a laptop
[00:21] <dellsucks> n8tuser: i have to connect to this network
[00:21] <Dartel> Dont drink and Linux how do you think windoze was created?
[00:21] <isase> Dartel: lots... and lots... and LOTs of booze
[00:21] <isase> :P
[00:21] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> your own?
[00:21] <Dillizar> Ravenor just close the laptop :P
[00:21] <dellsucks> n8tuser: nah, school's
[00:22] <MoTec> lol, it's worse than that.. apparently i bought a new car online last night after I'd been drinking :)
[00:22] <todd> prahal: what would you recommend I do? I need to be able to wipe machines completely, and restore ALL user info
[00:22] <Ravenor> Dillizar, Thats not the point.
[00:22] <prahal_> ldap with luma is quite easy by the way
[00:22] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> make it your default at boot, then dont attempt to switch to another
[00:22] <nightrid3r> freazer: restore from that precious backup you made
[00:22] <archman> can i somehow see session runtime?
[00:22] <dellsucks> n8tuser: when i go to different places around campus it connects to the school network, but when i'm at the lib it freezes
[00:22] <Dartel> So what do you all suggest to relive bordem with a system that seems to be just good for surfing and chatting LOL any decent games?
[00:23] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> i can confirm that,  nothing you can do about it
[00:23] <MoTec> tuxracer!
[00:23] <dellsucks> weird
[00:23] <Dillizar> Dartel i am playing CS :D
[00:23] <dellsucks> well someone should fix that bug
[00:23] <meoblast001> Ubuntu makes me want to punch babies
[00:23] <todd> dartel: bosswars!
[00:23] <Dartel> Hmmmm
[00:23] <archman> LOL
[00:23] <badfish69> so punch babies
[00:23] <rporter> Does anyone have an idea why ./configure for the newest bluez would tell me that DBUS isn't there, but DBUS is clearly installed on my system?
[00:23] <sambagirl> i am so frustrated. i cannot for the life of me get a single cd/dvd to burn. could the whole spindle of optical media be bad?
[00:23] <Dillizar> Dartel and WOW and warcraft
[00:24]  * Dartel hides his beanie baby collection
[00:24] <n8tuser> dellsucks -> you are in school, you have the time, contribute and fix such issues
[00:24] <blizzle> sambagirl, Have you tried burning at minimum speed?
[00:24] <badfish69> sambagirl, try k3b, brasero seems to suck
[00:24] <sambagirl> sure
[00:24] <sambagirl> ok
[00:24] <todd> dartel: yea for games, windows has more of a selection... look into WINE
[00:24] <dellsucks> n8tuser: no you have it wrong, i'm in school and i don't have time
[00:24] <archman> brasero is awesome for me
[00:24] <sambagirl> brb l3b?
[00:24] <sambagirl> ok
[00:24] <andypls1> guys i created a new windows live ID but when i try to login to msn, it says service unavailable
[00:24] <badfish69> k3b
[00:24] <badfish69> it's in the repos
[00:24] <sambagirl> that is in the respository
[00:24] <sambagirl> ?
[00:24] <Ravenor> How do I go about reenabling wireless after hibernate kills my wireless functionality. nm-applet doesn't give me any options for wireless. Like the entire device disappeared. ath_pci still shows up in lsmod though.
[00:24] <andypls1> my other account can login without any problems, anybdy knows why?
[00:24] <badfish69> yeah
[00:24] <blizzle> sambagirl, apt-get install brasero
[00:24] <fearful> andypls1: What client
[00:25] <badfish69> sudo apt-get install k3b
[00:25] <prahal_> todd, ldap with backups of the ldap db .Managing users through "luma". Don't know about ubuntu but unnder debian it was manageable to setup . I never had time but keeping password in kerberos is more secure (though this could be added in a second step
[00:25] <NativeAngels> has ubuntu desktop got a screensaver where it goes to the password after a cirtain
[00:25] <freazer> n8user: what sort of pathetic uni did you go to where you actually had free time?
[00:25] <andypls1> fearful i tried kopete
[00:25] <badfish69> blizzle, ubuntu comes with brasero, and it sucks
[00:25] <Dartel> CS I might be able to run... I was running halflife on windows before I went to Ubuntu
[00:25] <S4nD3r> its installed xserver-xorg-video of a lot of video cards in my laptop, is it necessary???
[00:25] <n8tuser> Ravenor -> sudo ifdown wlan0; sudo ifup wlan0
[00:25] <S4nD3r> My one is Intel 965G
[00:25] <InSAnE_> hello  everybody
[00:25] <blizzle> badfish69, Apparently it doesn't suck for all. :)
[00:25] <badfish69> it sucked for me on hardy and intrepid
[00:25] <archman> i always burn with brasero, and it's doing me good
[00:25] <fearful> andypls1: Try Pidgin or aMSN
[00:25] <LaGeek> Dartel but only CS i dont hink you can install CDS but i think halflife2 can not sure
[00:25] <Dartel> Hi InSAnE_
[00:26] <InSAnE_> i need  some help
[00:26] <sambagirl> it was already installed let me try it.
[00:26] <sambagirl> brb
[00:26] <LaGeek> hit me InSAnE_
[00:26] <InSAnE_> im a very newbe ubuntu user
[00:26] <zcat[1]> just wondering if there's any hope of getting the dialup modem in my laptop working. It identifies as 'SiS AC'97 Modem Controller', can't find much about it on google except a few vague references to 'alsa' having some support (but no actual clues like what package to install)
[00:26] <andypls1> fearful i also tried with windows live msn. is it because it's a newly created windows live ID?
[00:26] <Dartel> I dont like pidgion
[00:26] <LaGeek> !ask InSAnE_
[00:26] <fearful> andypls1: It shouldn't be because of that
[00:26] <Nicark> Quick question: how much swap space should i configure for a 4GB ram desktop amd64 system? (1gb?)
[00:26] <archman> zcat[1] i managed to get mine working on gutsy
[00:26] <zcat[1]> archman: how?!!
[00:26] <LaGeek> !ask | InSAnE_
[00:26] <archman> zcat[1] just a sec...
[00:26] <andypls1> fearful both programs fail, the problem must be somewhere else
[00:27] <InSAnE_> i installed ubuntu studio 8.10 on my PC
[00:27] <sambagirl> what a neat program
[00:27] <freazer> Nicark: depends on what you do - if it was me with 4 GB ram I wouldn't use any swap - you could run 3 World of Warcraft's at once and not need swap - Swap is just slow slow slow backup memory
[00:27] <LaGeek> !line | InSAnE_
[00:27] <InSAnE_> installation is works fine whitout problem
[00:27] <Dartel> BRB looking for CS
[00:27] <beefcircuit> InSAnE_: did it install cinepaint by default?
[00:27] <LaGeek> InSAnE_ try to make your question with one ENTER
[00:27] <fearful> andpls1: Its probably an error with MSN servers, since they use so many it maybe that the one which your new account is logging in is messed up
[00:27] <InSAnE_> but the first  is not  i only see black bicture after the boot
[00:28] <fearful> andpls1: Give it a few minutes and try again
[00:28] <prahal_> what is the way to hibernate under ubuntu ? uswsusp is broken under ubuntu so I don't know
[00:28] <andypls1> feaful it's been about an hour now...
[00:28] <prahal_> by broken I mean it corrupt generated initramfs
[00:28] <freazer> is there a command to sudo apt-get remove all and then reinstall all? like could I export my package list somehow?
[00:28] <fearful> andpls1: What error code does it give you
[00:28] <blizzle> prahal_, Hibernation is still a hit and miss affair.
[00:28] <InSAnE_> ok i try and sorry for the gramatic mistakes  im hungarian
[00:29] <freazer> and for the record, Seamonkey was a Firefox wannabe that is a GUI web browser that works and is not Firefox, lynx was just a silly suggestion for a newbie
[00:29] <freazer> I didn't ask for CLI
[00:29] <nightrid3r> !hu | InSAnE_
[00:29] <sambagirl> umm it doesnt write dvds
[00:29] <andypls1> 416 fealess
[00:29] <LaGeek> !hu
[00:29] <sambagirl> brb
[00:29] <andypls1> 416 fealful
[00:29] <blizzle> freazer, dpkg I think you'd need.
[00:29] <drash> Nicark: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-swap-space.html has a recent 'view' on that exact topic
[00:29] <LaGeek> !hungarian
[00:29] <archman> zcat[1] it's for intel8x0m modules: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d26d91db8 it could help you ; be creative! ;) cheers!
[00:29] <isase> blah
[00:29] <n8tuser> freazer -> look into  tasksel ubuntu-desktop  or the tasksel in general -- google for it
[00:29] <prahal_> blizzle, it is not like it is not working under debian ... that s why I am asking for ubuntu
[00:29] <Nicark> freazer: Thanks, I don't use any high ram usage software, nor do i use this computer as server, i guess i'll go with as many as possible if not any swap at all.
[00:29] <Dartel> I am American and still can't type.
[00:29] <sambagirl> wow what a cool program
[00:29] <Nicark> thanks drash will see
[00:29] <prahal_> sid I mean I don't know about lenny itself have not checked
[00:29] <freazer> blizzle, n8tuser: thanks will look into both
[00:30] <zcat[1]> archman: hmmm.. SiS not intel but I'll take a look
[00:30] <blizzle> freazer, sudo dpkg --reinstall -a or something similar. try man dpkg
[00:30] <tekteen> does anyone know what channel to go if you want help with GCC?
[00:30] <alex_mayorga> I have an ubuntu install that stales on libslp1, I've checked the image md5 hash and verified the CD, what can be wrong here?
[00:30] <archman> zcat[1] yes, but you could get on the trace...good luck :)
[00:30] <fearful> andypls1: Thats the error code from the msn client or Pidgin/Kopete
[00:30] <archman> zcat[1] you done that modem diagnostics?
[00:30] <LaGeek> tekteen what is that
[00:31] <prahal_> ok I ll use sid packages under ubuntu of uswsusp and hope the ubuntu way of patching pm-utils won't make it kill the system
[00:31] <Dartel> Was that CS or CSs?
[00:31] <isase> GCC is the Gnu C Compiler
[00:31] <andypls1> that's the error Kopete is reporting fearful
[00:31] <archman> zcat[1] scanmodem i believe...dunno
[00:31] <LaGeek> lol Dartel
[00:31] <InSAnE_> i have an ati 3870 GPU    i thint the problem is coused the default linux GPU driver  i cant fint a solution  whit the black picture    i dont knox the safe mode command on the grub menu
[00:31] <fearful> andypls1: Can you give me one from the msn client please
[00:31] <LaGeek> counter strike and source
[00:31] <archman> oh i'm getting drunk here while studying at the same time...
[00:31] <LaGeek> nice work archman :D
[00:31] <Dartel> CS= Counter Strike CSs= Counter strike source
[00:31] <andypls1> fearful Kopete is the msn client
[00:31] <S4nD3r> So... I had  XP installed, in dual boot system. BUt, now, when I choose Windows XP, this reboot and do not start windows. What to do?
[00:32] <archman> LaGeek: you mean, the modem? :)
[00:32] <prahal_> ie https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/132603 quite old no news
[00:32] <S4nD3r> Id like to have XP ready to use sometimes.
[00:32] <usr13> What needs to be installed to see Flash Plugin images like the ones on this page: http://shopv-twincycles.com/productdetail.htm?browse=194816&productId=5819034&shopBy=6291&catalogId ?
[00:32] <slusken> umm "I disabled my powermizer override options in my xorg.conf  " anyone know how to do this? :P thanks
[00:32] <fearful> andypls1: I know but can you login to the MSN Client like, Windows Live 8.0 or w/e version it is at now, and show me that error?
[00:32] <LaGeek> S4nD3r how did you installed ubuntu inside the windows or.......
[00:32] <manguy> Is there some sort of ssh log file in ubuntu?
[00:32] <andypls1> feaful unfortunatelly i am on linux nonw
[00:32] <S4nD3r> In another partition.
[00:32] <S4nD3r> Its is separated partition.
[00:32] <fearful> andypls1: Try logging in at www.meebo.com
[00:33] <andypls1> fearful: ok
[00:33] <nightrid3r> manguy: look in /var/log/
[00:33] <lstarnes> manguy: /var/log/auth.log
[00:33] <archman> S3nD3r: if youre not a gamer it's no use, use vmware...or any vm-server
[00:33] <manguy> Ahh auth.log, thanks!
[00:33] <LaGeek> S4nD3r put the windows cd and see if the windows misses some dll files dunno its a ubuntu channel
[00:33] <S4nD3r> I know. But I need windows to my researches.
[00:34] <archman> S3nD3r: you can install win on vmware...
[00:34] <archman> and have it
[00:34] <S4nD3r> If I need to re-install Windows, which procedures to re-install grub without lost windows MBR?
[00:34] <LH{> hey how do i run photoshop in ubuntu?
[00:34] <LH{> is it called wine?
[00:34] <archman> LH yes
[00:34] <nightrid3r> LH{: wine
[00:35] <LH{> cool
[00:35] <blizzle> LH: apt-get install wine
[00:35] <andypls1> fearful: ok
[00:35] <LH{> ty
[00:35] <andypls1> fearful: it doesn't login
[00:35] <fearful> andypls1: Did it work?
[00:35] <archman> or synaptic?
[00:35] <blizzle> LH: And then get Wine to run the Photoshop installer.
[00:35] <fearful> andypls1: Error?
[00:35] <chetnick> ﻿how can i remove Shockwave plugin for firefox?
[00:35] <_VIM_> I was only able to get CS2 working on Wine
[00:35] <archman> no need to be a geek ;);););)
[00:35] <LaGeek> vmware archman???
[00:35] <andypls1> fearful: it doesn't say any error
[00:35] <archman> yep
[00:35] <andypls1> fearful: it just appears as nothing happened
[00:35] <andypls1> really
[00:35] <blizzle> LH: If you want more up to date Wine, you'll need to add the wine repository.
[00:35] <LaGeek> archman dunno what is that lemme check
[00:35] <LaGeek> :P
[00:35] <Dartel> do the counter strike games need wine?
[00:36] <archman> LaGeek: virtual machine, like you have computer inside computer ;) LL
[00:36] <LaGeek> lol
[00:36] <fearful> andypls1: Ok give me one sec
[00:36] <archman> pretty awesome app
[00:36] <LaGeek> inside?? WOW
[00:36] <LaGeek> :D
[00:36] <archman> yes
[00:36] <LaGeek> i was thinking it was a emulator
[00:36] <archman> chech vmware unity on youtube!!
[00:36] <archman> you'll get impressed
[00:37] <LaGeek> archman but i need a windows cd??
[00:37] <_VIM_> cd or iso
[00:37] <fearful> andypls1: The error just says 461 or is there a message?
[00:37] <archman> LaGeek: depends on xp
[00:37] <Dartel> I have Linux pro mag on lap issue on Virtual enviroments
[00:37] <blizzle> LH: Google for wine hq application database
[00:37] <archman> LaGeek: take the one password-free
[00:38] <LH{> blizzle, how do I install photoshop on that? would it say run via wine or something
[00:38] <andypls1> "unhanded msn error code 416" fearful
[00:38] <LaGeek> archman thats a crime :D
[00:38] <archman> LaGeek: breathing will be a crime in ten years ;)
[00:38] <LaGeek> lol
[00:38] <archman> LH{> wine <app>
[00:38] <FiReSTaRT> hey guys.. i'm getting the msg saying "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF" what does that mean and what do i do about it?
[00:39] <archman> FiReSTaRT: you need to enter gpg key
[00:39] <archman> in software sources
[00:39] <LH{> archwan?
[00:39] <nightrid3r> FiReSTaRT: get the gpg key from the site
[00:39] <Dartel> In 4-8 years not breathing may prove to be a blessing
[00:39] <archman> :D
[00:39] <FiReSTaRT> so i go to http://ppa.launchpad.net?
[00:39] <bioshake> Re:  ubuntu and swap:  I'm just wondering if I should make my swap bigger than 1.4 gigs (I have 2 gigs of ram) to avoid any protential issues with suspend / hibernation
[00:40] <Joker_-_> Hey my DVD drive can't play DVDs, any tutorial on why this would happend? (It's on a mythbuntu media center box).
[00:40] <nightrid3r> FiReSTaRT: yes
[00:40] <archman> FiReSTaRT: there where you found your reps
[00:40] <LaGeek> archman wow its good i will try it when i will come nack home
[00:40] <Dartel> How do I change my password for when I log onto my wireless connection?
[00:40] <LaGeek> is it free??
[00:40] <FiReSTaRT> i think these are just standard ubuntu reps
[00:40] <sambagirl> k3b doesnt burn dvd?
[00:40] <archman> LaGeek: yes, mainly
[00:40] <nightrid3r> Joker_-_: libdvdcss2 <--- needed for encrypted dvd's
[00:40] <andypls1> fearful?
[00:40] <archman> LH{> put your setup file on desktop
[00:40] <Joker_-_> night, thx I already found a tutorial talking bout that but I cannot find in what repos it is?
[00:41] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: thx I already found a tutorial talking bout that but I cannot find in what repos it is?
[00:41] <fearful> andypls1: One second please
[00:41] <andypls1> ok
[00:41] <nightrid3r> Joker_-_: medibuntu repo
[00:41] <LH{> archman, what happens if its on a dvd
[00:41] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: this is not in the source.list by default?
[00:41] <nightrid3r> Joker_-_: no
[00:41] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: do you have a quicklink for me or something ;)
[00:41] <FiReSTaRT> nightrid3r: i have 2 apps that use ppa.launchpad.net.. how do i find out which one the key is for?
[00:41] <nightrid3r> Joker_-_: medibuntu.org
[00:41] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: thx
[00:42] <archman> LH{> then go to dvd location, open terminal there and run: wine <your setup file>
[00:42] <LH{> oh ill try that! :D
[00:42] <nightrid3r> FiReSTaRT: look on the apps pages, there should be instructons on whch key you need
[00:42] <LH{> archman, does it do isos?
[00:42] <FiReSTaRT> i'll give it a shot :)
[00:43] <fearful> andypls1: And you can login to other accounts using the same computer?
[00:43] <archman> LH{> nope, you need to mount iso; you have an iso?
[00:43] <andypls1> fearful yes
[00:43] <LH{> yes i have an iso of photoshop on my hdd
[00:43] <LH{> ill just extract it or something
[00:43] <archman> LH{> mount it, with acetoneiso2, or some built-in app for it
[00:44] <blizzle> LH{, You can mount an iso with mount. man mount
[00:44] <LH{> kk
[00:44] <_VIM_> !iso
[00:44] <andypls1> fearful what are you thinking?
[00:44] <archman> LH{> if you need help, let me now, i'm here, drinking and studying :D:D:D
[00:44] <LaGeek> how can i make my a installisation of a ubuntu ! with my themes and stuff! so when it will be installed will be lets say looking as  mac os??
[00:44] <LH{> LOL archman
[00:44] <LH{> what you drinking, oj?
[00:44] <fearful> andypls1: It usually means theres an error with the msn server, but I find it awkard thats been an hour and you can login fine with others.
[00:45] <archman> LaGeek: what??
[00:45] <archman> LH{> a beer ;)
[00:45] <archman> 2nd
[00:45] <archman> it's ok
[00:45] <andypls1> fearful ok i'll try tomorrow again
[00:45] <LaGeek> archman like linux xp
[00:45] <LH{> hehe
[00:45] <fearful> andypls1: I'll keep searching for answers will you be logged in?
[00:45] <archman> LaGeek: i don't know if it's possible, sorry
[00:46] <LaGeek> a ubuntu but will look just like xp :D or vista :D and i can sell it like them :D
[00:46] <andypls1> no
[00:46] <andypls1> do you want to email me fearful?
[00:46] <fearful> andypls1: Is your clock set to 2009?
[00:46] <andypls1> fearful yes
[00:46] <fearful> andypls1: Please I will e-mail you with a response
[00:46] <ethana2> How does one put their machine to sleep via the CLI?
[00:46] <archman> LaGeek: why don't simply google for xp ubuntu theme?
[00:46] <ethana2> (suspend to ram)
[00:47] <andypls1> fearful ok thanks, did you get my email?
[00:48] <freazer> hey all! I just wanted to brag: thanks for the help!  for pkg in `dpkg --get-selections|awk '{print $1}'| egrep -v'(dpkg|apt)'`; do sudo apt-get install --reinstall $pkg -y; done    -- it's crunching through my package list right now!
[00:49] <archman> LaGeek: planning some intrusion with this trick? ;)
[00:49] <Joker_-_> nightrid3r: it works for VLC and all, but mythbuntu won't play the DVD trough the interface... any tips?
[00:49] <ethana2> freazer: that would be amazing functionality in an OS if it had a gui...
[00:49] <ethana2> and launchpad integration
[00:49] <tekteen> freazer: that is nothing. I made a bash script to parse the faa site. :-P.
[00:50] <LH{> archman, instead of mounting the iso im just extracting it then using the setup
[00:50] <zcat[1]> W00T! Modem is answering AT commands. Will assume that probably means it's working (no phone line here so can't actually test it any further ;)
[00:50] <LH{> just wondering who here uses photoshop on ubuntu
[00:50] <archman> LH{> i don't think it'll work...
[00:50] <Eisenhorn> How do I go about reenabling wireless after it was killed by failed hibernating? nm-applet doesn't do anything.
[00:50] <LH{> hmm
[00:50] <archman> LH{> you can't extract an iso
[00:51] <archman> youll get nothing
[00:51] <archman> practically
[00:51] <LH{> oh
[00:51] <LH{> ill have to mount it then xD
[00:51] <archman> LH{> !iso
[00:51] <_VIM_> LH{: i was only able to get CS2 working on wine :(   so I use CS4 in a win xp VM
[00:51] <LH{> VM?
[00:51] <LH{> !iso
[00:51] <_VIM_> Virtual Machine
[00:51] <_VIM_> Virtualbox
[00:51] <LH{> whats the mountpoint
[00:51] <zcat[1]> actually my phone line at home is also VOIP so it might be a while before I get to test it... need a plain analog line ;) Why I want this modem working is a total mystery to me...
[00:52] <archman> LH{> /media/cdrom ??
[00:52] <LH{> oh i was used to d drive lol
[00:52] <Dartel> Any idea why Ubuntu sees and mounts my cheap 16 gig flash drive but not my 4 gig?
[00:52] <archman> LH{> LOL
[00:52] <yoyoned> LH{: you can mount it inywhere you want.  U normally use .mnt/iso
[00:52] <archman> zcat[1] welcome to the club!
[00:53] <LH{> archman, IT WORKED
[00:53] <LH{> YAY
[00:53] <archman> LH{> enjoy
[00:53] <LH{> cdrom0 popped up
[00:53] <archman> LH{> now...u see setup file
[00:53] <archman> ?
[00:53] <FiReSTaRT> nightrid3r: it was openoffice.. they must have changed something up b/c the key wasn't necessary b4
[00:53] <LH{> autoplay
[00:53] <FiReSTaRT> thanks :)
[00:53] <Dartel> LH: shouldn't it slide out not pop up?
[00:53] <archman> LH{> nope, other
[00:53] <LH{> I see the setup.exe
[00:53] <archman> LH{> thats the one!!
[00:54] <FiReSTaRT> and thank you archman :)
[00:54] <zcat[1]> archman: Mostly just because I have everything else on the laptop working, it never even occured to me that there was a modem but having just noticed it, I now feel compelled to have that working as well!
[00:54] <archman> np fire
[00:54] <LH{> do I wine setup.exe in terminal
[00:54] <Safe> If I have 2 NICs, how do I disable eth1?
[00:54] <archman> LH{> that's right!
[00:54] <freazer> thanks for all the help over the past two days everyone!
[00:55] <archman> youre welcome
[00:55] <LH{> so  wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe
[00:55] <archman> freazer here are some nice people willing to help, i get help often, im a noob, lets say
[00:55] <archman> LH{> cdrom0?
[00:55] <zcat[1]> zcat@mbeki:~$ date -d @1234567890
[00:55] <zcat[1]> Sat Feb 14 12:31:30 NZDT 2009
[00:55] <LH{> cd yeh
[00:55] <zcat[1]> hehehe
[00:56] <LH{> thats where the iso is mounted
[00:56] <archman> LH{> if its mounted to cdrom0, then that.
[00:56] <Safe> Is it even possible to disable it?
[00:56] <MoTec> heh, yeah.. unix date 1234567890 coming soon :)
[00:56] <LH{> how do I access that? do i need root
[00:56] <archman> LH{> no, did you cd to it?
[00:57] <LH{> i can only cd to /home/user
[00:57] <archman> LH{> LOL, you cant use root with wine, write:
[00:57] <archman> cd /media/cdrom0
[00:58] <LH{> ok
[00:58] <LH{> worked lol
[00:58] <LH{> yay cheers
[00:58] <archman> cant=you shouldn've
[00:58] <archman> you did wine setup?
[00:58] <rk_> when  i start sshd it says could not load host key:/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ... its not important, isnt it? i mean... thats the comp who is running the server, it only need authorized_keys and thats all
[00:58] <archman> LH{> i'm out of beer...:(
[00:58] <Stefano> sorry, I use sudo smbmount //192.168.0.10/stefano Desktop/dirStefano -o rw to mount a remote samba share on 8.10 from a 8.04. Can I put it as it is in /etc/fstab?
[00:58] <LH{> ok it popped up with wine
[00:59] <LH{> I think its working
[00:59] <LH{> raging archman !
[00:59] <_VIM_> !away > woodaway
[00:59] <archman> LH{> ok, you're on your own now, good luck ;)
[00:59] <LH{> hahah thanks alot!!
[00:59] <LH{> linux community is awesome
[00:59] <archman> np youre welcome to ubuntu community!
[00:59] <LH{> ty
[00:59] <LH{> xD
[01:00] <LH{> i already got compiz and new themes etc
[01:00] <LH{> and this is my first day haha
[01:00] <archman> ;)
[01:00] <archman> wow, you enjoy
[01:00] <archman> then
[01:00] <archman> and be prepared to be pissed off, sometimes ;)
[01:00] <_VIM_> that's a given
[01:00] <LH{> yeh lol
[01:00] <_VIM_> hehe
[01:00] <archman> LH{> intrepid?
[01:01] <LH{> whats that
[01:01] <archman> LH{> what version of ubuntu LOL?
[01:01] <LH{> lol
[01:01] <LH{> 8.10
[01:01] <LH{> numbers!
[01:01] <archman> intrepid ibex then
[01:01] <LH{> its fun
[01:01] <archman> LH{> i upgraded from gutsy yesterdy
[01:01] <LH{> hotkeys for everything
[01:01] <LH{> how do you find it
[01:01] <archman> and i can tell you, believe my, ubuntu is better nowadays
[01:02] <LH{> i like it, i just need to get photoshop up and IM sorted!
[01:02] <Stefano> I use sudo smbmount //192.168.0.10/stefano Desktop/dirStefano -o rw to mount a remote samba share on 8.10 from a 8.04. Can I put it as it is in /etc/fstab?
[01:02] <hoonteke1> I'm running intrepid on a dell vostro.  The blue blinking wireless led is ... annoying at best.  Is there a way to turn it off *while still using my wireless*?
[01:02] <LH{> im on dualboot with xp so its good
[01:02] <archman> LH{> i'm out of here, been a pleasure, night all! ;)
[01:02] <LH{> bye bye thanks for the halp
[01:02] <archman> ty
[01:02] <archman> and
[01:02] <archman> if youre not a gamer, believe me, no use of dual boot
[01:02] <archman> its vintage!
[01:03] <archman> use virtual machine, like vmware...
[01:03] <MoTec> Stefano: yes.  Add a line something like:  //ntserver/docs /mnt/samba smbfs username=docsadm,password=D1Y4x9sw 0 0
[01:03] <archman> bye
[01:03] <Dartel> I will miss WOW :-(
[01:03] <_VIM_> wow works on wine
[01:03] <archman> WOW works on wine, i believe
[01:04] <Stefano> MoTec, username and password are the ones from the PC where I do the mount, isn't it?
[01:04] <_2> is it possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:04] <MoTec> Stefano: yes, for the remote system.  whatever credentials you'd enter when you map that share.
[01:04] <Dartel> System wont run wowo
[01:04] <LH{> WOW WOW lol
[01:04] <Zenitur> Does anybody play Worms Armageddon?
[01:04] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with docky lagging?
[01:05] <Stefano> MoTec, thank you very much
[01:05] <LH{> Zenitur, back in the day!
[01:05] <Dartel> Never played Worms
[01:05] <LH{> is that the 2d one
[01:05] <MoTec> You're welcome
[01:05] <Dartel> Makes the BASS ignore them
[01:06] <G-Bleezy> whats another terminal text editor that's installed by default besides 'vi'?
[01:06] <G-Bleezy> vi is so unintuative it makes no sense
[01:06] <MoTec> nano
[01:06] <_2> anyone know if it's possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:06] <Ace2016_-> Hi all
[01:06] <Zenitur> LH, this game does not die with time. This is all time game like an quake
[01:06] <MoTec> G-Bleezy: nano
[01:06]  * _VIM_ smacks G-Bleezy hey now! 
[01:06] <Ace2016_-> if gnome has tasks on the bottom bar, what does it have on the top bar?
[01:06] <_VIM_> there is a GUI vi you know
[01:06] <Zenitur> G-Bleezy, pico
[01:06] <Zenitur> or nano
[01:07] <G-Bleezy> sweet
[01:07] <zash> Ace2016_-: whatevery you want
[01:07] <h00k> G-Bleezy: vim is pretty powerful if you take some time to get to know it
[01:07] <Dartel> Ok... I need to stop that
[01:07] <G-Bleezy> pico = nano
[01:07] <kholerabbi> can I label my ntfs partition? (rather than 80gb media)?
[01:07] <Zenitur> yea.
[01:07] <zash> Ace2016_-: you can move most stuff around and customize all you want
[01:07] <Ace2016_-> zash: oh ok
[01:07] <G-Bleezy> how do i get Xchat to save my nick name and stuff?
[01:08] <LH{> does notepad++ work with ubuntu, anyone know a good coding program
[01:08] <LH{> css php etc
[01:08] <Flannel> LH{: Try SCiTE, it's based on the same thing as notepad++
[01:08] <zash> LH{: scite is based on the same lib as notepad++
[01:08] <Zenitur> LH, KDevelop
[01:08] <G-Bleezy> LH{: i saw an editor for coders listed in the packages list
[01:08] <G-Bleezy> i think KDevelop is what i saw...
[01:08] <LH{> cool ill try them all haha
[01:08] <MoTec> scite is good stuff for windows
[01:08] <Ace2016_-> ever wonder if we'll run out of app names?
[01:08] <Ace2016_-> sry offtopic
[01:08] <MoTec> LH{: Eclipse might do what you want
[01:08] <LH{> ace2001ac7, theres always numbers haha
[01:09] <zash> LH{: vim ftw!
[01:09] <tekteen> ace2001ac7: I have seen some programs with the same name that do the same thing, very confusing "-)
[01:09] <MoTec> LH{: kate, scite, gedit, geany, quanta+
[01:09] <_2> LH{ nah i already used the first 10k numbers as command names.
[01:10] <LH{> just gotSCiTE
[01:10] <LaGeek> i am going home i have a new ubuntu ultimate edition to play with
[01:10] <LH{> _2 :P
[01:10] <LaGeek> FUN TIME
[01:10] <_2> LH{ for real
[01:10] <zash> ULTIMATE!
[01:10] <LH{> scite looks good for the moment hehe
[01:10] <LaGeek> yeah 2.0 zash
[01:11] <Dartel> Now all I need is to figure out how to get usenet working and a decent free usenet provider and this will be maxed out for comunication and information
[01:12] <LH{> I never tried usenet in years
[01:12] <Dartel> Comcast dropped it
[01:12] <_VIM_> comcast stopped their usenet :(((  so I too am looking for one
[01:12] <_2> anyone know if it's possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:12] <_VIM_> omg Dartel get out of my head :)
[01:12] <Dartel> Echo echo
[01:12] <h00k> G-Bleezy: vim is pretty powerful if you take some time to get to know it
[01:12] <h00k> ach, wrong button
[01:13] <LH{> hehe
[01:13] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with docky lagging?
[01:13] <LH{> h00k, what is VIM
[01:13] <ZiRiS> would someone please tell me the command to 'copy' a file from one location to another inside a term window, please?
[01:13] <Dartel> Didn't I read that 20 min ago?
[01:13] <Tr3y-> ZiRis cp
[01:13] <LH{> i keep thinkin its _VIM_ haha
[01:13] <h00k> LHC: vim, vi, same thing
[01:13] <MoTec> astraweb.com still do free usenet access?
[01:13] <h00k> !vim
[01:13] <LHC> oh btw
[01:14] <LHC> i logged in as lhc and lh{
[01:14] <MoTec> !code
[01:14] <LHC> opps lol
[01:14] <MoTec> kate, quanta, eclipse... i win!
[01:14] <ZiRiS> Tr3y-: tyvm
[01:14] <Tr3y-> I've never been a fan of vim usually use nano :-P
[01:15] <_VIM_> haters
[01:15] <_VIM_> :P
[01:15] <Tr3y-> lol
[01:15]  * _2 just uses mc for his editing
[01:15] <Dartel> I still do not understand virtual machines.. they still need real life resources like memory and such right?
[01:15] <Scunizi> I've got an iso of ubuntu server.. usually I use k3b to burn but since it's not installed on this box I'd give whatever the native app is a shot.. where do I find it and how do I use it?
[01:16] <Dexi> Does such a thing exist that would allow me to right-click on a picture and upload it to imageshack or something like that? the same as "Send file" but "upload"
[01:16] <ScottG489> I just created a new lager partition for swap space so that I could hibernate, but when I hibernate and start back up its just as if im doing a fresh restart. I'm guessing hibernate doesnt know the new location of my swap partition? What do I need to do?
[01:16] <_VIM_> Dartel: oh yeah theres no getting around that
[01:16] <rgotten> anybody has try webmin agains ebox
[01:16] <Scunizi> Nevermind.. Brassero and once loaded it's pretty self explainitory..
[01:16] <Zenitur> suse 10.1 have nice programs. And many. By default. 15 text editors, 10 media players, 5 3D-editors... I like this path, not a minimal. But since 10.2 (Microsoft agression) it is minimal too.
[01:17] <[T]ank> i need a good, easy, n00b friendly program to burn a mp4 video to a dvd disk to play in a dvd player. Can anyone make a recommendation?
[01:17] <_VIM_> Dartel: VM's just let you use different OS's inside other OS's, so like you can run Windows XP inside Ubuntu and viceversa, of course you'd need the Windows cd or .iso file...
[01:17] <_2> ouch oomk !                 kooka seems to have a bug
[01:17] <fearful> [T]ank: Have you tried Brasero? I don't know if it burns mp4 but you can try
[01:17] <[T]ank> looking
[01:17] <Dartel> So say I have a quad core system 4 gig ram per core I can set up 4-8 Vrt Machines?
[01:17] <Zenitur> They want to make distros low power and make windows 7. They are not partner of gnu/linux.They are killers
[01:18] <Scunizi> [T]ank: k3b
[01:18] <[T]ank> brasero looks like it may do it.
[01:18] <_VIM_> Dartel: easily
[01:18] <Zenitur> Tank, TkDVD.
[01:18] <Dartel> Ahhh
[01:18] <rgotten> which is better to use webmin or  ebox to manage ubuntu server
[01:18] <_VIM_> Dartel: and oddly enough, Win xp runs FASTER in Virtualbox than without Virtuualbox
[01:18] <Tr3y-> Anyone have any suggestions for 3d editing for *nix
[01:18] <Tr3y-> and don't say blender please
[01:18] <MoTec> ebox, apparently webmin isn't supported for ubuntu
[01:18] <Dartel> Hmm. Ubuntu/xp/vista/amiga/Mac machine :-)
[01:19] <Zenitur> VIM, cool
[01:19] <_VIM_> !webmin
[01:19] <_2> maybe i'll try to do all my "kooka" stuff on debian  ;/
[01:19] <fearful> [T]ank: You can also try DeVeDe
[01:19] <rgotten> i know that ebox is supported, but: ebox does not have command line line like webmin, and you are installing like a server on top of a server
[01:20] <h00k> [T]ank: I've had good luck with DeVeDe, also
[01:20] <Dartel> Well VIM that makes sense, as its not running the resourse directly but has a more efficient OS supplying it right?
[01:20] <_VIM_> Dartel: something to that effect, yes.
[01:20] <endeavormac> so i'm looking at all the traffic coming out of my machine when i connect it to a network. What daemon is spitting out ssdp packets?
[01:21] <Dartel> I am a 2 day old Linux user VIM forgive my ignorance LOL I am struggling to learn the new and wonderful
[01:21] <_2> _VIM_ "runs faster" most likely for some of the same reasons that games run too fast and are uncontrolable, i.e. timers are emulated poorly or not at all.
[01:21] <rk_> how do i generate /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key and /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ?
[01:21] <_VIM_> !pm | rgotten
[01:21] <MoTec> rk_: installing sshd package should generate those
[01:21] <netdur> latest ubuntu & firefox, firefox freeze few seconds every two/three minutes
[01:22] <_VIM_> Dartel: you're doing just fine... :)
[01:22] <rgotten> please explain your comment since i am new into this
[01:22] <LHC> oh shit .avi is glitchy when played
[01:22] <MoTec> rk_: meaning, since it's installed by default, they should be already generated.
[01:22] <LHC> is this the norm?
[01:22] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[01:22] <rk_> MoTec,  ive got it installated, but when i run it it says could not load host key:  /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[01:22] <Dartel> Surely someone has come up with a step timer to emulate what speeds are needed?
[01:22] <endeavormac> nevermind, tracked it down to pidgin
[01:22] <ZiRiS> I installed a fresh install of kubuntu after the same issue happened in ubuntu. I installed the recommended driver for my vid card (nVidia 8600GT) and rebooted, but xserver won't load. So I'm trying to copy the files listed previously and a few others to try to fix this. anyone else have a suggestion?
[01:23] <MoTec> rk_: do a ssh-keygen -t dsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[01:23] <ZiRiS> Sorry, listed previously in #kubuntu, Xorg.conf.*
[01:23] <MoTec> and a ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[01:23] <_2> LHC .avi is only a container. the format makes lots of differance   and the short answer is NO, not if you use the correct libs and codecs
[01:23] <_VIM_> LHC: you're probably just missing the good codecs, have you tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and enabled the medibuntu repos?
[01:24] <_VIM_> !medibuntu
[01:24] <LHC> _VIM_, ill try that now
[01:24] <LHC> _2 thanks
[01:24] <Dartel> Ubuntu did restricted extras just for my wireless
[01:24] <rgotten> ubottu:  please explain your comment since i am new into this, i am trying to find why everybody likes ebox compare with webmin, i have play with the 2 and it seems that webmin is more complete and friendly, i am a newby and since _answered Webmin, i was trying to get more information, i did not know that that was such a bad think, anyway, can somebody help me clarify
[01:25] <LHC> _VIM_, does that give me all the codecs
[01:25] <_VIM_> LHC: Most of the more popular ones, I donno bout "all" of them though...
[01:25] <looter> how do i know which desktop environment i'm using?
[01:25] <LHC> ahh
[01:25] <LHC> thanks for that!
[01:25] <MoTec> !webmin
[01:25] <LHC> hopefully itll play my avis
[01:25] <fearful> looter: lsb_release -a
[01:25] <_VIM_> np
[01:25] <fearful> looter: on the terminal
[01:26] <looter> gotcha
[01:26] <ZiRiS> looter: what color is your bootup screen? blue or orange?
[01:26] <MoTec> rgotten: I prefer webmin also.. but it doesn't handle config files like unbuntu does.
[01:26] <lstarnes> fearful: I don't think that shows the current desktop environment
[01:26] <_2> !freedom > rgotten
[01:26] <looter> orange
[01:26] <fearful> lstarnes: It should say Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[01:26] <rk_> MoTec, i did, and i think the files are there but it keeps sying could not start sshd :S
[01:26] <looter> and lsb said "no lsb modules are available"
[01:27] <_2> rgotten you might find part of your answer in the idea of freedom
[01:27] <ZiRiS> looter: you're running gnome
[01:27] <lstarnes> fearful: I think it always says ubuntu
[01:27] <Kryzler> !Spotify
[01:27] <Kryzler> damn ¬_¬
[01:27] <fearful> lstarnes: Really, well good to know I thought it said specifically
[01:27] <looter> ok... but is there a way i can verify that?  not that I don't believe you
[01:27] <Dartel> Gnome here too
[01:27] <lstarnes> looter: do you have a bar at the top and the bottom of the screen?
[01:27] <Kryzler> Anyone know if there is a Linux release of Spotify?
[01:27] <looter> top and bottom
[01:27] <ZiRiS> lstarnes: no, kubuntu says kubuntu
[01:27] <kjell> Kryzler: Run spotify under wine, works great.
[01:27] <MoTec> rk_: did you install sshd by running 'sudo apt-get install sshd' ?
[01:27] <rk_> yep
[01:27] <Dartel> I set both mine at the top
[01:27] <ZiRiS> kde here, and I like it so far, if i can get my vid working
[01:28] <lstarnes> looter: do you see "Applications", "Places", and "System" in the top bar?
[01:28] <looter> i'm  running ubuntu 8.10 btw and I'm pretty sure its gnome but I just wanted to verify
[01:28] <MoTec> rk_: hmm, might be apt-get install ssh
[01:28] <looter> lstarnes: yes
[01:28] <LHC> _VIM_, this screen came
[01:28] <Kryzler> k thanks kjell :D
[01:28] <rods> Quick question -- does 3d virtualization mean hardware acceleration?
[01:28] <lstarnes> looter: then that is gnome
[01:28] <LHC> up sayin configuring sun-java6-bin
[01:28] <kjell> Kryzler: No problem.
[01:28] <rk_> MoTec, well yeah, ssh
[01:28]  * ZiRiS is running kubuntu after ubuntu failed
[01:28] <_2> looter  the command requires a switch.  "lsb-release -a
[01:28] <lstarnes> looter: also, check system > about gnome
[01:28] <fearful> ZiRis: Why did Ubuntu fail?
[01:28] <_VIM_> LHC: yeah you have to hit TAB key so it goes to the "OK" or what not
[01:28] <looter> 2: i did run it with the switch
[01:28] <_2> looter  the command requires a switch.  "lsb_release -a"   sorry.
[01:28] <ZiRiS> I installed a fresh install of kubuntu after the same issue happened in ubuntu. I installed the recommended driver for my vid card (nVidia 8600GT) and rebooted, but xserver won't load. So I'm trying to copy the files listed previously and a few others to try to fix this. anyone else have a suggestion?
[01:28] <Dartel> Vid works but not all the resolutions I had in windows stuck at 800x600 60hz
[01:28] <ZiRiS> Sorry, listed previously in #kubuntu, Xorg.conf.*
[01:29] <looter> lstarnes: ty
[01:29] <LHC> ahah _VIM_ i was scared there
[01:29] <LHC> enter didnt work haha
[01:29] <ZiRiS> and xorg.*
[01:29] <_VIM_> lol yeah that Java agreement gets everyone
[01:29] <seam0nster> can someone PLEASE help me install my install edimax ew-7318usg  usb wifi thing, for the love of god! or whom ever would also be nice to be loved by...
[01:29] <LHC> LOL
[01:29] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[01:29] <mib_e3nmyp> hi guys, I was wondering if someone could help me with instaling ubuntu 8.10
[01:29] <fearful> sure
[01:30] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: Do you have any special problem or just need guidance?
[01:30] <_2> looter you can also look to see what code name is in your etc/apt/sources.list
[01:30] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: whatcha got? whats the issue, specifically?
[01:30] <LHC> _VIM_, what player do you use?
[01:30] <mib_e3nmyp> My question is: can I install ubuntu from my HD and not a CD Drive
[01:30] <seam0nster> i googled this up and down, what am i doing wrong ?
[01:30] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: or are you just in need of guidance?
[01:30] <mib_e3nmyp> because I dont have any more CD-R
[01:30] <seam0nster> HALP PLEEZ!
[01:30] <_VIM_> LHC: VLC
[01:30] <LHC> cool
[01:31] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: ooooo! good question. I don't know, perhaps someone else does?
[01:31] <Dartel> also under SYSTEM there is a "about Gnome" in mine should be in yours
[01:31] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: If you run Windows you can install it through there and still have windows on the computer.
[01:31] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: You can also boot out of a USB
[01:31] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: Or USB as fearful says
[01:31] <_VIM_> !players | LHC (but there's many others...)
[01:31] <mib_e3nmyp> kjell: how do I do that
[01:31] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: I would do USB if I were you.
[01:31] <LHC> so sudo apt-get install VLC
[01:31] <caranguejo-PE> a
[01:31] <freazer> Hi all! One more issue. When I try to install packages, dpkg tells me I must run "dpkg --configure -a" first -- so I do that: update-initram is broken and won't let me continue: Fatal: Not all RAID-1 disks are active; use '-H' to install to active disks only" - "dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" - how do I clear this from my cache? I want to skip over this one - I've found that this is a known 
[01:31] <_VIM_> LHC: , yep
[01:31] <LHC> kk
[01:31] <_2> LHC no caps
[01:31] <_VIM_> yeah no caps with apps
[01:31] <kjell> mib_e3nmyp: Wubi does it. Although I think ubuntu came with an official application?
[01:31] <Dartel> VLC rocks
[01:32] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: go get the iso, install alcohol (if in windows presently) and then run it, it will allow you to install from within windows, without rebooting.
[01:32] <_VIM_> good catch -2
[01:32] <LHC> kk _2
[01:32] <_VIM_> _2 even
[01:32] <mib_e3nmyp> I am currently running a dual boot if Vista and XP and would like to delete Vista ( I knwo you guys can't help out there) and dual boot ubuntu and xp if possible
[01:32] <kjell> ZiRiS: Ah, so the ISO contains the windows-installer aswell?
[01:32] <_2> :)
[01:32] <seam0nster> If someone can help me i shall name my first born after you, or anything you decide !
[01:32] <fearful> ZiRis: I don't recommend him using Wubi tho, might as well dual-boot
[01:32] <Dartel> What is the BEST lossless audio format?
[01:32] <kjell> seam0nster: With what?
[01:32] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[01:32] <LHC> how come you can just type a programs name and it goes installs it, are these files hosted on ubuntu's own servers
[01:32] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: I'm a windows expert, ubuntu newB
[01:32] <ZiRiS> pm
[01:32] <freazer> mib_e3nymp: that's easy, use a LiveCD and Gparted (System -> Administration -> Partition Editor) and just delete the Vista partition. the installer will then let you guide through to install Ubuntu on the free partition
[01:33] <fearful> Windows blows really
[01:33] <fearful> lol
[01:33] <seam0nster> Kjell: i need to install an edimax ew-7318usg usb wifi device
[01:33] <ZiRiS> fearful: agreed, hence the switch to ubunutu
[01:33] <mib_e3nmyp> wait, so I can still keep X
[01:33] <mib_e3nmyp> XP
[01:33] <fearful> I haven't used windows since Fiesty
[01:33] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: yes
[01:33] <The_Rebel> whats the best app for mounting images? (what has the most support all the image types out there?)
[01:33] <mib_e3nmyp> so I download the new ubuntu 8.10
[01:33] <mib_e3nmyp> then what?
[01:34] <_2> The_Rebel mount
[01:34] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: You need to create a new partition to install your ubuntu system
[01:34] <seam0nster> i have the tutorial i can paste bin in the linux driver folder, i just don't understand it!
[01:34] <LHC> _VIM_, vlc still flickers
[01:34] <Jungle_Man> ext2 or  3
[01:34] <mib_e3nmyp> fearful: can I do that from XP
[01:34] <_2> fearful or use wubi
[01:34] <kjell> Jungle_Man: I'd use 3
[01:34] <fearful> Or use wubi
[01:34] <mib_e3nmyp> and can I delete Vista from XP
[01:34] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: install Alcohol 120% and then mount the iso, run the official app, and you're good, however, I would suggest another method than using the linux app to delete the partition
[01:34] <rgotten> can anybody expalin to me how is an easy way to follow this irc, i am a newby and is hard to follow any question posted here
[01:34] <_2> !wubi
[01:34] <The_Rebel> a frontend would be nice..
[01:34] <freazer> No help for my question above? I just want to tell dpkg to forget about configuring initramfs-tools, I've already ran LILO -H and it's fine now - so I can continue on installing other packages
[01:35] <_VIM_> LHC: hmm no clue lol
[01:35] <LHC> haha
[01:35] <_2> The_Rebel a frount end for the mount command...   </rolls eyes>
[01:35] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: I would suggest you try installing it through wubi, and I would download MagicISO instead, free and specifically to mount images.
[01:35] <rgotten> ubottu: do you want me to close the PM
[01:35] <mib_e3nmyp> ZiRiS: but when I do that won,t my boot order be screwed?
[01:35] <chalcedony> I'm trying to backup my files to upgrade to 8.10. does this mean that these are in root?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/115836/
[01:35] <prince_jammys> rgotten: use tab completion to autocomplete the nickname of whoever you're talking to, so the nick is highlighted. example: prin<tab key>
[01:35] <_2> !bot | rgotten
[01:35] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: Not if you use Wubi, it won't install the GRUB you'll use windows boot loader
[01:36] <Dartel> rgotten: Gets ruff, I was a Channel admin so used to fast scrolling
[01:36] <mib_e3nmyp> ok, so fearful: last question, do you know how to delete the vista partition from xp
[01:36] <mib_e3nmyp> without corrupting the boot order
[01:36] <mib_e3nmyp> bcz when I do that b4 I cant boot into XP anymore
[01:36] <fearful> mib_e3nmyp: As I said I don't use windows so I wouldn't know :S
[01:36] <ZiRiS> mib_e3nmyp: check your pm
[01:36] <rgotten> Dartel: i am 78 year old who is trying to learn all this new technology, i can bet you is not easy
[01:36] <Kryzler> Dartel how come "was" an admin, not "is" an admin?
[01:37] <mib_e3nmyp> sorry, checking pm
[01:37] <ZiRiS> s'ok
[01:37] <chalcedony> rgotten: congratulations for trying new things :)
[01:37] <seam0nster> ;_;
[01:37] <fearful> afk having dinner
[01:37] <_2> mib_e3nmyp maybe you could just change the partition type and format it to something linux could use ?   just a thought.
[01:37] <drash> chalcedony: the paste indicates these files are in /var and owned by root yes
[01:37] <seam0nster> Why so complicated ubuntu?!
[01:37] <Kryzler> !ubottu
[01:37] <chalcedony> drash: ty much :)
[01:37] <Jungle_Man> How to use grub if I install Ubuntu before XP
[01:37]  * The_Rebel mounts _2's backend
[01:37] <seam0nster> why!
[01:37] <zcat[1]> !grub
[01:37] <Dartel> rgotten: LOL Age and technology are wonderful companions both need patience
[01:38] <Jungle_Man> It cannot boot
[01:38] <freazer> Jungle_Man: use a LiveCD to reinstall GRUB into the MBR
[01:38] <drash> chalcedony: you're welcome ... try running your backup routine with sudo (or gksudo for GUI app) and you're good to go
[01:38] <zcat[1]> pretty easy to put grub back. tricky part is setting it up to boot windows afterwards. if you install windows first that gets done for you
[01:38] <seam0nster> thanks anyway :(
[01:38] <Jungle_Man> Thanks
[01:38] <Dartel> Kryzler: Was several years ago and not on a Linux Channel but still a busy one
[01:38] <Kryzler> I see
[01:39] <xenocide21> how does apt-get work?
[01:39] <_2> zcat[1] tricky ?
[01:39] <xenocide21> *is used to SourceMage*
[01:39] <freazer> Nobody knows how to get rid of this silly dpkg --configure -a issue? I thought you all said Windows was trash but I've never had an automatic update cause this much trouble!
[01:39] <zcat[1]> less-easy than having the installer do it for you.
[01:39] <_2> !apt | xenocide21
[01:40] <xenocide21> thanks
[01:40] <rgotten> prince_jammys: if i port a question how can i track who answer me, therre is a lot of answer at all times
[01:40] <Dartel> Kryzler: Was several years ago and not on a Linux Channel but still a busy onewhat are you using to access IRC now?
[01:40] <chalcedony> rgotten: my best friend on undernet is 73, can you accept msg?
[01:41] <zcat[1]> rgotten: use an irc client that highlights messages with your name in them..
[01:41] <Dartel> GRRrr
[01:41] <Safe> It can't matter if I have 32bit or 64bit version if I'm having connection troubles, right?
[01:41] <Kryzler> Dartel I'm using xchat
[01:41] <Kryzler> why do you ask?
[01:41] <chalcedony> i use xchat
[01:41] <rgotten> zcat[1] any examples
[01:41] <zcat[1]> xchat
[01:42] <Dartel> Same here
[01:42] <endeavormac> does interpid come with gnome dock?
[01:42] <drash> freazer: have you read through "man dpkg" to check if there's a relevant option for your predicament ?
[01:42] <Kryzler> I like making pointless custom commands in xchat
[01:42] <The_Rebel> rock out with your dock out.
[01:42] <Jungle_Man> Chose Ubuntu 32 or 64 if I have Intel dual core
[01:42] <rgotten> zcat[1]: is it free?
[01:42] <kindofabuzz> lawl
[01:42] <Dartel> Was a Mistake actually I ment to direct to rgotten
[01:42] <The_Rebel> and no it doesn't
[01:42] <lstarnes> rgotten: almost everything on ubuntu is free
[01:42] <endeavormac> well why when i apt-get install gnome-dock, it tells me it's already installed?
[01:42] <_2> anyone know if it's possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:42] <zcat[1]> freazer: so sudo dpkg --configure -a isn't fixing the problem?
[01:42] <The_Rebel> wait.. i think your talking about a different dock..
[01:43] <Zenitur> Does somebody play Worms Armageddon?
[01:43] <The_Rebel> i thought you meant gnome-do's dock..
[01:43] <_2> rgotten free as in speach and free as in beer
[01:43] <endeavormac> wait nvm
[01:43] <tsrk> what does a backslash after a command do?
[01:43] <Dartel> Is Xchat as macro friendly as mIRC?
[01:43] <The_Rebel> which is still a work in progress i thinks..
[01:43] <tsrk> like "man ls \"
[01:43] <lstarnes> Dartel: xchat does have scripting
[01:43] <The_Rebel> awn-dock is the best i can find
[01:43] <rgotten> Dartel: that is what i am trying to do with a lot of pacience
[01:43] <lstarnes> Dartel: however, I personally think irssi has the best irc scripting
[01:44] <Kryzler> tsrk in thatsense it does nothing
[01:44] <xmedex> hello world
[01:44] <zcat[1]> freazer: have got myself into situations like that before.. can't remember how I found my way out though
[01:44] <freazer> drash: I just did dpkg -r -a and despite not doing what the man page says it does (it was not pending to be removed, it was pending installation) dpkg --configure -a is now saying nothing - which is what I wanted, thanks
[01:44] <_2> tsrk bash: command " not found
[01:44] <arghh2d2> tsrk: i think it waits for more input
[01:44] <tsrk> Kryzler, no, it did something, it just gave me a prompt that said ">" instead of opening the man page
[01:44] <rgotten> so who can help me to compare ebox from webmin
[01:44] <tsrk> arghh2d2, oh, so multiple lines of text for one command?
[01:44] <xmedex> someone can help me??
[01:44] <erisco> I am having huge problems with wireless. After an arbitrary amount of time, but often, I am completely unable to access anything on my network as though I was disconnected. However, Ubuntu still states that I am indeed connected. After disconnecting and reconnecting the connection comes back. what is going on?
[01:44] <Kryzler> trsk, that > probably means that you'c
[01:44] <chalcedony> xmedex: try asking a question instead of just saying hi :)
[01:45] <drash> freazer: odd indeed, yw
[01:45] <freazer> zcat[1]: thanks for the assurance ^^ it's a known bug with dpkg and update-initramfs with a partially functioning raid array - there's no way to pass the -H parameter that it insists on to continue the installation. I'm slowly muddling through
[01:45] <_2> tsrk what exactly are you trying to do ?
[01:45] <Kryzler> *you've altered the directory >.<
[01:45] <arghh2d2> tsrk: somtin like that, the command preceding the backslash affect your options at the >
[01:45] <tsrk> _2, i accidently added a backslash and wanted to know what it's doing
[01:45] <tsrk> arghh2d2, ok
[01:45] <_2> tsrk ok press   ctrl+d
[01:45] <xmedex> i've a trouible using 3com switch baseline 2226 plus
[01:45] <zcat[1]> > means you have an unfinished command; usually a missing " or ' or mismatched ( somewhere
[01:45] <tsrk> _2, i already used ctrl-c, what's ctrl-d do?
[01:45] <arghh2d2> you mean ctrl-c
[01:46] <Zenitur> It is possible to applyWA patch to wine 1.1.14?
[01:46] <fernando> hello
[01:46] <The_Rebel> didn't gnome-dock become cairo-dock
[01:46] <The_Rebel> ?
[01:46] <xmedex> when i use 3com switch, i cant run my thin client
[01:46] <_2> tsrk the ctrl+d is EOF   ends the input string.   also logs you out of a shell if there is nothing else reading stdin
[01:46] <Dartel> If your using Ubuntu there is no comparrasion as webmin is not compaitble from what I seen discussed earlier
[01:46] <fernandof> hello
[01:47] <_2> arghh2d2 no i meant ctrl+d
[01:47] <freazer> how do I search my commandline/bash history for old commands? I thought I could push a key combo, type part of the command, and have it find it?
[01:47] <fernandof> I may need help on a problem with Printer HP Deskjet 895Cxi
[01:47] <xmedex> i have a problem with thin client
[01:47] <xenocide21> apt-get sucks -_-
[01:47] <zcat[1]> freazer: ctrl-R
[01:47] <fernandof> I have other 2 printers working
[01:47] <[T]ank> ok, so... i used devede to burn my mp4 to dvd. It plays on my laptop just fine, but if i put it into a dvd player it says that it cannot play the disk. any tips anyone can offer?
[01:47] <arghh2d2> _2: what's ctrl-d do?
[01:47] <Zenitur> package not found
[01:47] <_2> arghh2d2 the ctrl+d is EOF   ends the input string.   also logs you out of a shell if there is nothing else reading stdin
[01:48] <xmedex> my thin client wont running if im using 3com switch.....why???
[01:48] <xenocide21> any one know why the PM doesnt have a conky package?
[01:48] <zcat[1]> ctrl-D is end-of-input, ctrl-c is 'break'
[01:48] <[T]ank> actually, i burned the disk using the iso that devede created, but burned it with brasero
[01:48] <fernandof> with HP 895cxi I got "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[01:48] <g_wark> hi folks ... i've just installed 8.10, and I still cant get my wireless working...    the icon says wireless disabled. can someone please point me in the right direction ?
[01:48] <arghh2d2> _2: so  ctrl-d would be useful if you actually typed a list of commands at the > prompt?
[01:49] <_2> zcat[1] you could have went ahead and added that ctrl+z is backgorund
[01:49] <_2> arghh2d2 yep
[01:49] <kindofabuzz> anyone tried Get-You?
[01:49] <zcat[1]> arghh2d2: no, > will go away once the command is 'complete'
[01:49] <Dartel> Time for Dinner
[01:49] <zcat[1]> eg $echo "this is my first line"
[01:49] <Rafael> zcat[1]: i just install xchat
[01:49] <zcat[1]> sorry, try again...
[01:49] <zcat[1]> eg $echo "this is my first line
[01:49] <zcat[1]> > this is the second line"
[01:50] <zcat[1]> Will be one big echo with a <cr> in the middle
[01:50] <Rafael> zcat[1] were do i see my name to follow easy the irc
[01:50] <mib_2ii0w6> ziris
[01:50] <mib_2ii0w6> we got disocnnected
[01:50] <_2> zcat[1] but you are using quotes.   and echo recognizes them.   something like -- grep blah \n
[01:50] <freazer> is there a way to determine where a package has been unpacked too while it is being installed/reinstalled? I've tried dpkg --unpack mypackage  ---- but it doesn't like that, it wants a package _file_ in that case and not the package name
[01:50] <drash> [T]ank: an obvious one ... you did check DeVeDe's PAL or NTSC format setting ?
[01:50] <zcat[1]> Rafael: lines with your name in come up in red, I think.. not sure, I may have changed the default
[01:51] <_2> zcat[1] will need ^d
[01:51] <fernandof> with HP 895cxi I got "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[01:51] <[T]ank> drash: what should it be set to?
[01:51] <[T]ank> never done this before
[01:51] <zcat[1]> _2: yes, true
[01:51]  * Dartel hopes some one wakes him when 1TB solid State drives are affordable
[01:51] <xmedex> hello...my thin client wont running...why???
[01:51] <[T]ank> drash: its set to pal... i am guessing it should be ntsc
[01:52] <mib_2ii0w6> ziris: hey
[01:52] <drash> [T]ank: depends on your geo-loaction, if you're in the US, set it to NTSC
[01:52] <Rafael> zcat[1]: thanks i see it. anybody is able to give me some help with webmin against ebox?
[01:52] <Droopsta915> What's a good movie player, the default movie player is a bit pixely.
[01:52] <hacker_kid> how can i format a partition with jfs or xfs, i see gparted cannot
[01:52] <zcat[1]> vlc is pretty good.
[01:52] <[T]ank> drash: starting over :-D
[01:52] <fearful> Droopsta915: VLC, sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> droopst: xine is good
[01:52] <_2> Droopsta915 vlc
[01:52] <zcat[1]> but if your video is pixely it's probably the file, not the player
[01:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> or mplayer
[01:52] <Dartel> Rafael: If your using Ubuntu there is no comparrasion as webmin is not compaitble from what I seen discussed earlier
[01:53] <fernandof>  system  8.10 - o Intrepid Ibex. with HP 895cxi I got "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[01:53] <drash> [T]ank: :) experimenting with settings is a good thing ;)
[01:53] <fearful> yea zcat[1] has a point. My personal favorite is vlc all the way
[01:53] <julmumma> hi! if I use the usb-creator on the livecd to create a liveusb, will the changes made when running the livecd (installs etc) be written to the usb?
[01:53] <zcat[1]> mplayer has it's place but I mostly use vlc too
[01:53] <_2> anyone know if it's possable to mount an audio cd ?
[01:54] <g_wark> how do I find out what type my wireless card is please ?
[01:54] <vVvHACKERvVv> gtk-recordmydesktop blurry when uploaded to youtube any solutions?
[01:54] <Rafael> Dartel: this is what i read all over, but i have try webmin and it seems morte friendly, olso has the option of command line, that is why i was looking for people experience?
[01:54] <zcat[1]> hardly ever use totem .. bloody silly default, they should make vlc the default player ;)
[01:54] <fearful> _2: Why don't you just open it with rythmbox
[01:54] <_2> g_wark  lspci   maybe.   or  lshw -C network
[01:54] <fearful> zcat[1] I totally agree
[01:54] <MoTec> Rafael: I've been using webmin but am switching to ebox because of the potential problems i've heard with ubuntu and webmin.
[01:55] <_2> fearful doesn't answer my Q for one, and for another thing that requires a gui
[01:55] <g_wark> _2 thankyou
[01:55] <zcat[1]> Canonical have some hangup about patents which i think is the reson they steer clear of vlc
[01:55] <Droopsta915> thanks for the help everyone
[01:55] <fernandof> does anyone know why I I got "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory." with HP 895cxi
[01:55] <Dartel> Rafael: Wish you luck It seems to be an ongoing discussion here so keep watching
[01:55] <_2> g_wark personally i like the later of the two
[01:56] <Rafael> Motec: do you know if you can use the command line on ebox?
[01:56] <MoTec> Rafael: i've not installed it yet.. but even with webmin I always used ssh for a command line.
[01:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> some solutions for gtk-recordmydesktop for blurry upload to youtube
[01:57] <fearful> _2: Well, why can't you mount it? Is there an error or something?
[01:57] <_2> fearful do you know a way to mount them ?
[01:57] <vkumar> anyone using the latest gnome-globalmenu .deb package from their PPA?
[01:57] <ugliefrog> does anyone here uses xvidcap
[01:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> I used xvidcap
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> and Instanbul
[01:58] <Rafael> Motec: my problem ios that my box is on a closet far from my laptop, so i access it thu webmin and use the comman line, how can i use ssh if am conected with a wireless laptop?
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> Istanbul*
[01:58] <ugliefrog> did it record video for ya otr just individual pic files
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> uglie: yes it recored video
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> but it was shitty
[01:58] <ugliefrog> well dang
[01:58] <_2> does anyone know a way to mount an audio cd ?
[01:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> gtk-rcm is better
[01:58] <vkumar> _2: pop it in
[01:58] <ugliefrog> I cant get it to record video..it makes the file but nothing is in it
[01:58] <MoTec> rafale: ssh hostname from any *nix box
[01:58] <MoTec> Rafael: or use putty on windows
[01:59] <_2> vkumar and ?
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> uglie: its junk
[01:59] <Tr3y-> Rafael: I came in kind of late to your issue but it sounds like ssh would work for what you want to do
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> try what I use
[01:59] <vkumar> _2: hal should take care of it for you and mount it automagically
[01:59] <ugliefrog> whats junk xvidcap
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> yes
[01:59] <MoTec> Rafael: I'm always using ssh first, as generally I am tunneling the http over ssh anyway
[01:59] <ugliefrog> what ya use
[01:59] <Jungle_Man> Is there any one known how to check is a port locked by IPtable?
[01:59] <_2> vkumar thanks for trying.
[01:59] <Droopsta915> PuTTY is good
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> gtk-recordmydesktop
[01:59] <fernandof> anyone can help me with A printer?
[01:59] <ugliefrog> work in ubuntu
[01:59] <fearful> _2: If you pop it in nothing happens?
[01:59] <fernandof> Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory.
[01:59] <vVvHACKERvVv> great quality except when uploaded to youtube
[02:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> I use 8.1
[02:00] <Tr3y-> Jungle_Man: give me one second I had to do this before
[02:00] <_2> Jungle_Man iptables -L
[02:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> so yes
[02:00] <vkumar> _2: if not, try mounting /dev/scd0 or whichever device it is on /media/disk
[02:00] <ari_stress> hi guys, i've just shared a folder using nautilus, where does it keep the config? i check in /etc/samba, there's none related
[02:00] <Rafael> my laptop is a windows laptop and witrh webmin or ebox i connect thru the ip address, can i do with any of the other options you are mentioning?
[02:00] <_2> fearful of course not.
[02:00] <ugliefrog> ill give it a whirl real quick
[02:00] <_2> vkumar it's audio cd
[02:00] <MoTec> Rafael: sure.  You can get a command line on your ubuntu machine from a windows machine by using puTTY
[02:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> uglie: it records to .ogv, use DeVeDe to encode to AVI or mencoder
[02:00] <fernandof>  HOW can I solve this issue? Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory.
[02:00] <fearful> Is it burned _2?
[02:01] <_2> vkumar is it possable to mount them ?
[02:01] <vkumar> _2: right. so pop open a terminal and type "man mount"
[02:01] <_2> fearful no.
[02:01] <vkumar> _2: yes
[02:01] <_2> vkumar oh really ?
[02:01] <vkumar> _2: yep, though normally I don't need to go to cmdline for it
[02:01] <_2> vkumar this i have to learn, ....  or you do one,
[02:01] <fearful> _2: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=828965
[02:02] <Dartel> Motec can it be done through a simple terminal program?
[02:02] <MoTec> Dartel: putty is a simple terminal program
[02:02] <fearful> _2: after the fifth post I beleive
[02:02] <fearful> I'll brb
[02:02] <vkumar> _2: actually, I'm wrong
[02:02] <vkumar> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/54232-mount-audio-cd.html
[02:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> man, is this room a bunch of newbies?
[02:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> or it it jsut me
[02:02] <_2> vkumar :)
[02:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> just*
[02:03] <Dartel> Ok LOL let me restate to default terminal program on windows
[02:03] <Hok30> vVvHACKERvVv: It's a support channel....
[02:03] <MoTec> I'm using putty now, to connect to my ubuntu machine where I'm running irssi and another bash session under 'screen'... Very cool stuff.
[02:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok Hok
[02:03] <MoTec> If you're a geek.
[02:03] <fernandof>  HOW can I solve this issue? Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory.
[02:03] <Hok30> vVvHACKERvVv: =D
[02:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> thought things were a bit simple here
[02:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> lol
[02:03] <Hok30> OK i'm having problems
[02:03] <Dartel> Define Geek?<ducks>
[02:04] <MoTec> If you think putty/ssh/screen is cool you just might be a geek :)
[02:04] <_2> fearful mount is never mentioned in that post
[02:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> I jsut finished my video tut for youtube on cracking WPA and WEP
[02:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> damn thing is blurry
[02:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> grr
[02:04] <rww>  !ot
[02:04] <Dartel> MoTec LOL
[02:04] <fearful> _2: Its an audio CD It should mount automatically to a player.
[02:04] <MoTec> vVvHACKERvVv: did you use aircrack or something different?
[02:04] <Hok30> I tried to install Ubuntu - it failed. So I tried to install WinXP, it failed also. Now when I start up, I get an error that says "NTLDR is missing" and it asks me to restart. I have the Ubuntu CD in, and windows tried to install, but it failed.
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> Motec: yes aircrack-ng
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> works great
[02:05] <MoTec> Yep, good stuff
[02:05] <ugliefrog> excellent works perfectly
[02:05] <_2> fearful you don't mount an audio cd to play it.   i would like to mount it if it is possable.
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> uglie: you're welcome
[02:05] <s1amson> yea... that defiantly makes you a hacker
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> you can thank me later
[02:05] <Hok30> Hello?
[02:05] <vkumar> Hok30: your best hope is to get a new ubuntu CD and install it
[02:05] <_2> fearful but i'm not aware of any way to mount an audio cd
[02:05] <ugliefrog> thank you
[02:05] <MoTec> Hok30: If you want to install windows again, use the ubuntu cd.. Get to the point where you can partition the drive, and then remove all partitions.
[02:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> slam: I didn't say it did
[02:05] <_2> fearful that's why i asked.
[02:05] <fernandof> help "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[02:05] <fearful> _2: I'm not either, but I'm also not sure your intension while mounting it, I thought it was for listening to it
[02:06] <Hok30> MoTec: I tried, but whenever I try to boot I get an error.
[02:06] <MoTec> After you commit those changes and reboot XP will be able to install.
[02:06] <Hok30> MoTec: I can't get past the start of booting =(
[02:06] <Dartel> Booting from CD?
[02:06] <MoTec> You can't boot the ubuntu CD?
[02:06] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Is your bios set to boot the cd before any other device?
[02:06] <_2> fearful maybe i want to break a copy right paten law thingy or something.
[02:06] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: you are more than welcome to put your wits against mine.
[02:07] <ugliefrog> what was the name of the file converter
[02:07] <_2> fearful it really doesn't matter why i want to mount it..
[02:07] <vVvHACKERvVv> ugliefrog: deVeDe or mencoder
[02:07] <Dartel> That was my question LOL make me feel useless
[02:07] <vVvHACKERvVv> if you are new to this use DeVeDe
[02:07] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: I have no idea. How do I change it?
[02:07] <ugliefrog> VVvHACKERvVv: thank you sir
[02:07] <vVvHACKERvVv> welcome
[02:07] <ricochet> I have a KDE menu/vdesktop question:  is there a way to configure an app/window to only appear on the taskbar IFF the desktop it is on is the active desktop?
[02:07] <noon> is itunes via wine even worth trying?
[02:08] <vVvHACKERvVv> noon: no
[02:08] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: ?
[02:08] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Usually when you boot there will be a message similar to "Press DEL to enter setup". That will take you into your bios. From there you can set your device boot order.
[02:08] <Dartel> Hok30: When you boot the computer there is a msg hit <what ever key to enter Bios
[02:08] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Is it under the setup Utility?
[02:08] <noon> :( i have ipod touch 2g
[02:08] <fearful> _2: I'm not sure how to then I'm sorry all the posts I read say that audio cd's aren't mountable but I don't thinkso
[02:08] <graelin> Anyone help me with a Virtualbox problem?
[02:08] <s1amson> no vVvHACKERvVv i just thought it was funny... your nickname and using other peoples programs to work your magic. in my day we would call that being a script kiddie. thats all.
[02:08] <luckyone> what is the best tool to monitor my user directory and automatically backup files to my NAS?
[02:09] <titaniumtux> mdr
[02:09] <titaniumtux> hello world
[02:09] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Is the setup utility the same thing?
[02:09] <Hok30> O_o
[02:09] <Zombie_Gaz> Hey... using gnome-terminal in X and need to figure out a way to get it to show ansi correctly. Do I need to use a specific font or term (and if so how to I install / change that)?
[02:09] <Hok30> OK good
[02:09] <MoTec> luckyone: you could set a crontab to run rsync
[02:09] <Hok30> I found it
[02:09] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Setup utility? Maybe.
[02:09] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Yeah, it goes HD then CD
[02:09] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: you didn't give me a chance to explain that I had to reprogram the application to use my wireless device. also I had to reprogram it to grab proper transient keys while cracking WPA
[02:09] <xenocide21> Kubuntu doesnt run so well on my system, sucks up too much resources, will Xubuntu run better likely?
[02:09] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Reverse that if you can.
[02:10] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: To CD then HD?
[02:10] <luckyone> MoTec: was hoping it would be a little more instant than that
[02:10] <MoTec> xenocide21: yes.  xubuntu uses less resources
[02:10] <s1amson> vVvHACKERvVv, and you didnt realise im joking about your nick.
[02:10] <fearful> xenocide21: Yes it surely will Xubuntu is made for less resources
[02:10] <xenocide21> awesome
[02:10] <arghh2d2> xenocide21: yes
[02:10] <w4g3n3r> Hok30 yup.
[02:10] <theshadow> I'm looking for a software based sound board. any suggestions?
[02:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: I am not the joking type
[02:10] <xenocide21> P2 333MHz and 192MB ram >.<
[02:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> Lol
[02:10] <s1amson> ... so?
[02:10] <titaniumtux> PII is old school
[02:10] <xenocide21> kubuntu sucks up so much just running the base system
[02:10] <_2> fearful yeah, that's the driving force behind my search really    "they said it can't be done"   so i set out to find a way.   just thought the last place that one might find it was the first place i would look.
[02:10] <xenocide21> its what i have right now
[02:10] <s1amson> i am. deal with it mmk.
[02:10] <MoTec> heh, i run an AMD Geode LX :)
[02:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: I just want to educate people on Linux/UNIX, I want more people to use it
[02:10] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Dang. I get the same error.
[02:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> thats whY i am here
[02:10] <MoTec> Because I'm cool like that :)
[02:11] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: I'm booting off a windows CD though. Should I boot of a Ubuntu one?
[02:11] <luckyone> Atom running here :)
[02:11] <s1amson> so do i. it doesnt mean your nick isnt a bit funny :P
[02:11] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: The ubuntu setup cd is in the drive right?
[02:11] <s1amson> 'least to me.
[02:11] <Jungle_Man> Can I install U with 1Gb harddisk?
[02:11] <Zombie_Gaz> I'm using 'gnome-terminal' and need to display ansi characters... can anyone help me with that?
[02:11] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Not sure you should get that error on either cd.
[02:11] <fernandof> can someone help me to fix a problem with a printer HP? I get this message under cups and no printing effect "Unable to start backend "hp" - No such file or directory."
[02:11] <vVvHACKERvVv> slamson: yea I do this to provoke people so they call me names and a noobie
[02:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> its funny
[02:12] <zer0o> hi guys is there anyone who knows a bit about skype?
[02:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> I get a kick out of it
[02:12] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Well I do... Should I disable the HD bootup?
[02:12] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Or just make it second to CD?
[02:12] <Dartel> Well Hacker I am a new user of Linux and from what I seen so far a permanant one as well
[02:12] <s1amson> didnt think you were the joking type :]
[02:12] <MoTec> if you are seeing an ntldr error it's not booting off of the cd.
[02:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dartel: excellet
[02:12] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Oh... I think I know why.
[02:12] <graelin> Can anyone help me with a mouse probplem in Virtualbox 2.1.2? Everything is working happily... except the mouse
[02:12] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Yes, you should boot the CD first, then the HD.
[02:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dartel: I will answer any Q you have
[02:12] <fearful> zer0o: I can help with skype
[02:12] <_2> Jungle_Man yes. a linux installation is possable with as little as 100m hdd space  but not ubuntu,  ubuntu needs about 500m for a server install
[02:13] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: It says the CD-ROM device is not installed
[02:13] <Hok30> O_O
[02:13] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: That would make sense.
[02:13] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Yeah. How do I fix that?
[02:13] <fearful> zer0o: What's your problem?
[02:14] <Dartel> I am done questioning for the night, This system is so old it wond hold or handle much more... I need to remove some packages soon
[02:14] <vVvHACKERvVv> Oh yea, for those if you with broadcom wireless cards, I am in the midst of writing drivers that will work with kisemt and the aircrack suite
[02:14] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Not sure. Are all the cables connected inside the box?
[02:14] <prahal> freazer, sorry that s why I told <the channel we were in> not #ubuntu at first
[02:14] <_2> Dartel how old ?
[02:14] <Dartel> Using Dynex
[02:14] <fearful> Dartel: Try sudo apt-get autoremove it'll remove packages that are outdated
[02:14] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Eh. I don't know. It worked yesterday, before I tried to install Windows. Then I got a STOP error in the middle of the insatllation.
[02:15] <stupidwhiteman> hi all, my computer keeps crashing, and it wont boot up 60% of the time, I can't open a browser, I can run xchat for a while before it crashes. On boot up, I see things like "Kernel Panic : attempting to kill the idle task" I have a boot CD, but it crashes during that too!
[02:15] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Freakin windows.
[02:15] <freazer> prahal: Thanks anyway ^^ goodness that was hard not to be construed as pure hostility
[02:15] <freazer> So much for "At this point you will find yourself among the friendly crowd of #debian inhabitants." ...
[02:15] <Dartel> It is a sauger laptop 256 ram S3 Virge M+ Video and a whopping 6 gig HD and plain CD no burner
[02:15] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Doesn't sound like windows "caused" your problem. Just discovered it for you. I'm pretty sure it's just a hardware issue..
[02:15] <vVvHACKERvVv> man people just GET RID of windows
[02:15] <Dartel> came origionally with Windows ME
[02:15] <vVvHACKERvVv> period
[02:16] <KevDog> b43 drivers already work with aircrack
[02:16] <Dartel> No 98
[02:16] <_2> freazer heh.
[02:16] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Really? Even though it was working before I tried to install windows? You think the cable just came out or something?
[02:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: not for internal Dell vostro 1510
[02:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> trust me on this
[02:16] <KevDog> what's the chipset?
[02:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> Intel
[02:16] <_2> freazer debian != ubuntu
[02:16] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: I don't think your cable just disconnected itself, no. I think your cd drive just crapped out.
[02:16] <Hok30> vVvHACKERvVv: I'm trying O_o
[02:16] <Dartel> Ty Freazer
[02:16] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: So what should I do...
[02:17] <vVvHACKERvVv> Hok30: good keep itup
[02:17] <prahal> freazer, mind you abrotman is one of the best hackers and help for more than 10 years on debian channels ... only ubuntu people are not that easy to deal with and with time it went from a gap to that attitude
[02:17] <vVvHACKERvVv> yea
[02:17] <maco> prahal: its possible that your nvidia drivers are corrupting things on resume. my friend's laptop did that on intrepid. works fine in jauty though.
[02:17] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Hit it with a hammer? No, do you have a spare cdrom to hook up?
[02:17] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Fraid not.
[02:17] <maco> prahal: almost warned you, but if you use sid, jaunty shouldn't be anything to worry about
[02:18] <prahal> freazer, so what was the things after dpkg -r -a ?
[02:18] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: Theres nothing I can do?
[02:18] <Dartel> Trying to decide if its worth upgrading the memory to 512 and a DVD drive or dump it soon as I can afford a better laptop
[02:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: i will help you here, I do not do provate chats
[02:18] <prahal> maco, ??
[02:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> private*
[02:18] <KevDog> Go buy an Atheros card then -- don't re-invent the wheel
[02:18] <prahal> I am using intel drivers
[02:18] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: You can install ubuntu off a usb drive/key? Have one of those?
[02:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: the point is not to buy anything new
[02:18] <maco> prahal: you were asking before about hibernate corrupting initramfs or something? oh intel. ok i have no idea then.
[02:18] <Hok30> Hm
[02:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> but to use what we already have
[02:19] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: I used to.
[02:19] <_2> KevDog reccomending ath ?
[02:19] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: If I bought one do you think that;d work
[02:19] <furqon> fff
[02:19] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: If I just wrote the files to the USB stick?
[02:19] <furqon> apaa aku ra dong
[02:19] <Zombie_Gaz> Last time... I'm using 'gnome-terminal' and need to display ansi characters... can anyone help me with that?
[02:19] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: if you going to buy something, get a new drive.
[02:19] <prahal> and I do not have corruption on resume ... only suspend does not happens correctly (first stage that is suspending itself . Resuming is another story I ll look afterwards
[02:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> I refuse to pay for new hardware when I can write a driver for an existing on
[02:19] <KevDog> I'm not saying I told you so, however when you bought your equipment, you should have done some research --- like anything else -- get compatible hardware -- live Nvidia > ATI (not starting a flame war here!)
[02:19] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: lol, but that costs 4x as much as a usb stick.
[02:20] <prahal> maco, yes thanks . Only I left and get back so I wondered if you where talking about that :)
[02:20] <_2> KevDog maybe it's the ati chip on my ath card that makes it suck so hard.
[02:20] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: and I don't wanna screw it up when I hook it up
[02:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: stop assuming, this laptop was purchased by my company I had no choice
[02:20] <_2> maybe ?
[02:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> now I will make it work
[02:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> simple as that
[02:20] <KevDog> If you can write a driver -- you are a much better man than me and I will give you a lot of credit :)
[02:20] <freazer> prahal, vVvHACKERvVv: Suppose I try apt-get install firefox --> 1 not fully installed or removed. --> Setting up initramfs-tools (0.85eubuntu39.3) ... --> Fatal: Not all RAID-1 disks are active; use '-H' to install to active disks only
[02:20] <maco> prahal: i used /lastlog in an attempt to find the earlier message about "channel we are in" that you referenced a few moments ago
[02:20] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: So that's the only thing I can do?
[02:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: its what I do at my job
[02:20] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: If so, thanks for the help =)
[02:20] <KevDog> ati chip or atheros card?
[02:21] <freazer> ﻿prahal, vVvHACKERvVv: the joke is, I plugged the disk back in and did mdadm --assemble --scan , it's back and assembled and everything is fine! but it's still saying that not all RAID disks are active!!
[02:21] <_2> yep
[02:21] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: It's really not that hard to install a new cdrom drive. And you can buy one for $20 US.
[02:21] <KevDog> Cool -- well I'm sure a lot of people will be extremely happy
[02:21] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: thats my hope
[02:21] <Hok30> w4g3n3r: I'll look into it
[02:21] <Hok30> w4g3n3r:  Thanks a bunch though :)
[02:21] <KevDog> which intel chipset are you going to address specifically?
[02:21] <w4g3n3r> Hok30: Sure, sorry we couldn't get it working.
[02:22] <vVvHACKERvVv> my job is to get as many people to use Linux/UNIX productively as possible
[02:22] <freazer> ﻿prahal, vVvHACKERvVv: I can run lilo -H and it installs just fine. But dpkg thinks it isn't!
[02:22] <KevDog> Hmm, I like aircrack however I'm not sure if it falls in the productivity camp (still thinking about this!)
[02:22] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: what exactly are you trying to do
[02:22] <kindofabuzz> I've tried Linux Mint, Fedora, Crunchbang, openSuse, Arch and a few more. i've settled back on ubuntu. ubuntu I love you! =)
[02:22] <Dartel> Who makes the Dynex wirless cards? Dynex or they slap thier name to a pre made item?
[02:22] <vVvHACKERvVv> KevDog: this will serve other purposes as well not simply aircrack
[02:22] <_2> freazer you use lilo by choice ?
[02:23] <stupidwhiteman> hi all, my computer keeps crashing, and it wont boot up 60% of the time, I can't open a browser, I can run xchat for a while before it crashes. On boot up, I see things like "Kernel Panic : attempting to kill the idle task" I have a boot CD, but it crashes during that too!
[02:23] <KevDog> Tried bt2
[02:23] <KevDog> tried bt2?
[02:23] <freazer> _2: What's wrong with LILO? It is the _DEFAULT_ boot manager when using the Ubuntu 8.04 alternate install CD when using software RAID. Drop the elitist attitude!!
[02:23] <freazer> _2: Besides, this is an update-initramfs and initramfstools problem, and has nothing to do with LILO!
[02:23] <_2> freazer only reason i asked, i used to have to use lilo because grub was too weak, but what grub couldn't do   grub2 can.
[02:23] <kindofabuzz> stupidwhiteman, your memory or hard drives could be failing
[02:24] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: I don't believe I have an elitist attitude
[02:24] <vVvHACKERvVv> ar eyou referring to me
[02:24] <vVvHACKERvVv> ?
[02:24] <stupidwhiteman> thanks kindofabuzz
[02:24] <ari_stress> hi guys, i've just shared a folder using nautilus, where does it keep the config? i check in /etc/samba, there's none related
[02:24] <_2> freazer and yes i have fought many initramfs battels too.
[02:24] <S4nD3r>  /msg NickServ identify sander98
[02:24] <kindofabuzz> hehe
[02:24] <freazer> ﻿vVvHACKERvVv: my "elitist" message was directed towards _2, not you -------- what exactly am I trying to do? I'm trying to be able to use my package manager again. I just try to do apt-get install firefox and it says "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[02:25] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: oopsey
[02:25] <ezerhoden> S4nD3r: time to change your password
[02:25] <kindofabuzz> we know your password now
[02:25] <seam0nster> can somone just answer me this: Why does nothing ever work for me ?
[02:25] <_2> freazer and doing what the error message said do, yelds what ?
[02:25] <Kryzler> haha fail
[02:26] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: is another pkg manager running?
[02:26] <ezerhoden> seam0nster: user error
[02:26] <kindofabuzz> ari_stress, ~/.nautilus
[02:26] <RJG_> just a quick question. my volume control thing up top has gone missing. how do i get it back?
[02:26] <prince_jammys> seam0nster: you're unlucky
[02:26] <seam0nster> noooes
[02:26] <Kryzler> seam0nster: pebkac
[02:26] <seam0nster> wat
[02:26] <fearful> freazer: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:26] <KevDog> What happens when you run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:26] <arghh2d2> seam0nster: biological error between the chair and the keyboard?
[02:26] <kindofabuzz> anyone know why NFS does not automount even thought it's in fstab and works when mount -a i sran?
[02:26] <fearful> KevDog: Fixes errors on the package manager
[02:26] <Kryzler> seam0nster: pebkac == problem exists between keyboard and chair
[02:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> kindo: is the a flag specified for auto moun
[02:27] <freazer> _2, fearful:  sudo dpkg --configure -a  -> yields:   Fatal: Not all RAID-1 disks are active; use '-H' to install to active disks only
[02:27] <freazer> dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:27] <freazer> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[02:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> t
[02:27] <KevDog> Sorry, I meant that to freazer -- meaning I wanted him to do as it said!
[02:27] <seam0nster> i am just following instructions, exaclty as they are written, terminal always has a problem
[02:27] <fearful> freazer: sudo dpkg -reconfigure -a
[02:28] <freazer> fearful: dpkg does not recognize -reconfigure .. I've tried -- and no - as well
[02:28] <ezerhoden> kindofabuzz: i have never used nfs but i have heard many complaints about having thing mount properly, boot order, and things related
[02:28] <_2> freazer so you will have to either edit the script to call lilo with -H or bypass that function.
[02:28] <KevDog> why are you installing firefox anyways - doesn't this come by default
[02:28] <fernandof> thx all
[02:28] <fernandof> Goodnight
[02:28] <kdorf> Well, seam0nster, given that the instructions you're reading have probably worked for lots of other people, it's easy to conclude that pebkac.
[02:28] <dibblego> is there a non-pidgin IM client? it's full of typical amateur bugs
[02:28] <Commie_Cary> something deleted my init fail and caused a kernal panic and corrupted my /usr folder, good thing I backed it up 2 hours ago
[02:28] <prince_jammys> freazer: fearful dpkg-reconfigure (all one word) is the command
[02:29] <storrgie> I would like to use evolution on two machines, but I want to be able to have the same contacts/emails etc... can I use unison to sync the .evolution directory?
[02:29] <freazer> _2: can you tell me where to look for that script? I've looked in /etc/initramfstools and /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs ...
[02:29] <kindofabuzz> ezerhoden, yeah i mean it works fine like i said but i have to do a mount -a, it never automounts even though its in fstab, i may look into autofs
[02:29] <vVvHACKERvVv> any python programmers here?
[02:29] <seam0nster> okay kdorf you tell me what i could of possibly done wrong in the following, gimme 2 mins to type
[02:29] <kdorf> dibblego: kopete (is for KDE though)
[02:29] <prince_jammys> freazer: though i doubt you need to run that, anyway.
[02:29] <dibblego> kdorf, thanks
[02:29] <kindofabuzz> vVvHACKERvVv, i'm just learning python as we speak
[02:29] <ezerhoden> dibblego: there is, but i think it comes with pidgin
[02:29] <KevDog> dibblego: gajim?
[02:29]  * vVvHACKERvVv loves python
[02:29] <TuxSympathiser> Does anyone understand how ACPI works
[02:29] <jrib> vVvHACKERvVv: best to just ask your question, but if it's specific to python, you should ask #python
[02:30] <ezerhoden> dibblego: another bird name? i can't recall
[02:30] <kdorf> dibblego: if you're looking for something command line, there's centerIM too
[02:30] <_2> freazer the most simple way would be to move the update-lilo script out of /usr/sbin/   and link /bin/true to where it was,  then run the --configure again.   but don't forget to undo the workaround
[02:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> jrib: I do not have a python problem
[02:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> it was a conversation starter
[02:30] <fearful> freazer: sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride and delete the postfix line
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> well they don't like conversations here either unless it a linux question
[02:30] <jrib> vVvHACKERvVv: this channel is just for support.  #ubuntu-offtopic for other (more fun) conversations :)
[02:30] <KevDog> Ive never used python
[02:30]  * vVvHACKERvVv is too lazy to change channels
[02:31] <KevDog> Its too bad for me too!
[02:31] <S4nD3r> Hi there. I needed to re-install in my laptop. Now, grub disapears. What to do?
[02:31] <kindofabuzz> yeah because typing /join #channel is hard
[02:31] <Kryzler> vVvHACKERvVv: or #defocus for more general socialising
[02:31] <Kryzler> heh
[02:31] <Kryzler> in xchat you can get away with just /j #channel
[02:31] <S4nD3r> I used fdisk -l to see my partitions
[02:31] <vVvHACKERvVv> kindofabbuzz: Oh is that how you change channels, I was trying to point and click somewhere
[02:31] <S4nD3r> I got to use chroot too
[02:31] <Kryzler> face --> desk
[02:32] <refdef> Hey guys. I have an 8.10 live cd. How can i boot it with a custom resolution or in vga hanks
[02:32] <kindofabuzz> vVvHACKERvVv, and you're a hacker? lol
[02:32] <S4nD3r> but, find /boot/grub/stage1 do not works
[02:32] <Kryzler> lol kindofabuzz :P
[02:32] <phrostbite> Where can I get some information on dual booting windows xp and ubuntu? I have ubuntu already and want to install winxp.
[02:32] <TuxSympathiser> I've got a problem with my acpi
[02:32] <S4nD3r> Is possible to get help about it?
[02:32] <vVvHACKERvVv> kindofabuzz: I guess sarcasm is not a prefected methodology within text chat
[02:32] <prahal> fearful, what the ??? why delete the postfix line ?
[02:32] <_2> freazer example: WHERE="`which update-lilo`" ;mv $WHERE / ;ln -s /bin/true $WHERE ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm $WHERE ;mv /update-lilo $WHERE
[02:32] <MoTec> refdef: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:32] <prince_jammys> !dualboot > phrostbite
[02:33] <prince_jammys> !grub > phrostbite
[02:33] <vVvHACKERvVv> the hell with DUAL boot, just run windows inside Ubunutu with VMWARE
[02:33] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[02:33] <fearful> prahal: I've done it before and has fixed my dpkg error.
[02:33] <seam0nster> I download a python script that claims to be able to finally install my driver FOR ME http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=757607 I read the readme file and it seems too good to be true! "To run the script you must have python installed ('sudo apt-get install python')." Okay i can do that! so i copy and paste that into terminal, oh great  alredy have python awesome! next ""python install_rt73_drivers.py" and the script should take over." SWEEET a
[02:33] <_2> freazer i don't promice that to work without error,   so use at your own risk,   it was intended as an example only.
[02:33] <phrostbite> prince_jammys,  thanks for the info
[02:33] <Dartel> Is there a decent Defrager for Ubuntu?
[02:33] <seam0nster> -_-
[02:33] <seam0nster> what could i have possibly done wrong i ask you!?
[02:34] <prince_jammys> phrostbite: no prob. /msg ubottu grub for info about fixing grub after installing windows
[02:34] <h00k> Dartel: defragging isn't necessary with ext2 or ext3
[02:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: rt73 is the driver source I use for my USB WiFi card
[02:34] <Lawrence_Lance> Need help? #freelinuxhelpline on irc.freenode.net.
[02:34] <prahal> \o/ fearful you made my day :D
[02:34] <seam0nster> OH JEESUS CHRIST HELP ME
[02:34] <freazer> _2: Well hold onto your hat _2!! I did it anyway! aww shucks. no go! reverting those symbolic links..
[02:34] <_2> Dartel not really,  ext4 will have one.
[02:34] <seam0nster> ive tried like 6 tutorials
[02:34] <kdorf> hmm
[02:34] <fearful> ?
[02:34] <kdorf> that thread you linked to says Notice: As of Ubuntu 8.04, Most (If not all) RT73 based devices are supported out-of-the-box.
[02:34] <Dartel> TY all
[02:34] <seam0nster> i get to about step 3 before terminal hates me again
[02:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> seamonster: yo uare referring to wireless correct?
[02:34] <seam0nster> yes
[02:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> my speciality
[02:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> hehe
[02:34] <_2> freazer example: WHERE="`which update-lilo`" ;mv $WHERE / ;ln -s /bin/true $WHERE ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm $WHERE ;mv /update-lilo $WHERE  <<<<< you did that ?
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> USB?
[02:35] <seam0nster> OMG I LOVE YOU ALREDY
[02:35] <seam0nster> yes
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> I assume you want to use monitor mode
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> ?
[02:35] <fearful> prahal: How did I make your day?
[02:35] <alex87> i am trying out shell scripting, is there a way to echo to the same line, without starting a new one?
[02:35] <seam0nster> i just want it to work (but yes)
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> hehe
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> I got ya
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> give me your sys specs
[02:35] <_2> freazer all as root right ?
[02:35] <kindofabuzz> alex87, don't put a /n?
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> we'll go form there
[02:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> from*
[02:35] <FloodBot1> vVvHACKERvVv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:36] <seam0nster> how do i do that, im a new windows escapee
[02:36] <seam0nster> ?
[02:36] <a1fa> is there a cpanel alternative for ubuntu?
[02:36] <vVvHACKERvVv> blah
[02:36] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok
[02:36] <S4nD3r> any help?
[02:36] <vVvHACKERvVv> what model USB card
[02:36] <prince_jammys> alex87: use printf or echo -n 'blahblah'
[02:36] <seam0nster> also apparently `uite stupid
[02:36] <austin_> Hey guys, I just installed ubuntu, and this driver upgrade is causign some serious screen resolution problems...help>?
[02:36] <kindofabuzz> a1fa, webmin can do alot
[02:36] <_2> "new windows escapee"     i like the phrase  :)))
[02:36] <freazer> _2: err, you didn't tell me to do that, I did mv /usr/sbin/update-lilo to /usr/sbin/oldupdate-lilo   and then ln -s /dev/true /usr/sbin/update-lilo .. should I copy paste what you just said and try that?
[02:36] <alex87> prince_jammys, thank you! i'll try it
[02:36] <alex87> kindofabuzz, i haven't been so far, but thanks
[02:36] <seam0nster> edimax ew-7318usg
[02:36] <a1fa> kindofabuzz: i need something thats setup for hosting
[02:36] <TuxSympathiser> does anyone know how acpi effects the ethernet adapter?
[02:37] <a1fa> webmin cant do hosting
[02:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: you ar enot stupid only new to the system
[02:37] <_2> freazer that was a repost   ^
[02:37] <kindofabuzz> a1fa, ISPconfig
[02:37] <seam0nster> thanks :)
[02:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> I enjoy helping new linux users discover the power of their systems
[02:37] <freazer> fearful: I found that file ﻿/var/lib/dpkg/statoverride but could you explain what the "postfix" line is?
[02:37] <prahal> fearful, it  means you had a corruption that happened at the postfix line ... chance that the same line is to get corrupted on another station is well not high . But erasing a line that work on a station where something else is broken is meant to make things worst . ( Though I am impressed  you managed to find the exact line at fault when your file was corrupted
[02:37] <kindofabuzz> !autofs > kindofabuzz
[02:37] <a1fa> kindofabuzz: thanks
[02:37] <seam0nster> good, because i find all this fasinating, the parts of it that work
[02:37] <oDesk> hello, i can't ping my Ubuntu laptop which is connected at the same LAN, i removed all firewalls on ubuntu like firehol and firestarter but still can't ping..!
[02:37] <Dartel> Big differance between stupidity and ignorance of the unknown :-)
[02:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> seamonster: is the card plugged in
[02:38] <seam0nster> yes
[02:38] <vVvHACKERvVv> run iwconfig
[02:38] <vVvHACKERvVv> at terrm
[02:38] <seam0nster> okay
[02:38] <_2> freazer i think you missed part of what i said.   maybe you were typing while text was scrolling,   i do that too.
[02:38] <MoTec> meh, with 100,000 lines of code.. what are the odds that any single line is all that important? (lol)
[02:38] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: tell me if you see an entry names wlan0
[02:38] <seam0nster> it says no wireless extentions 4 or 5 times
[02:38] <prahal> but telling somebody else to do the same thing because he had a corruption is to me like telling to someone with any illness , take aspirin it will cure you
[02:38]  * _2 now takes his elietest attitude elsewhere.
[02:38] <S4nD3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot Im following this tutorial. But, when I try to use setup, I got an error
[02:38] <fearful> prahal: Oh I'm sorry, I wouldn't mean any harm to anyone I just thought it was like something general that could have gotten messed up. :S
[02:38] <seam0nster> n wlan0
[02:39] <S4nD3r> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:39] <seam0nster> no
[02:39] <Dartel> The lines are not but that one , where the . should be is a pain
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> here is a neat tip, did you boot up with the card plugged in
[02:39] <austin_> can anyone help?
[02:39] <seam0nster> no
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> good
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> now
[02:39] <maurer> What package will give me asm/page.h
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> are you using the dongle
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> or is it plugged directly into the port
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> dongle=bad with ubunut
[02:39] <seam0nster> it's plugged into the usb
[02:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok what window manager are you using
[02:39] <seam0nster> whats a dongle -_-
[02:39] <seam0nster> huh ?
[02:40] <austin_> no one at al wishes to assist me?
[02:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> dongle=basically extension cord
[02:40] <prince_jammys> !find asm/page.h > maurer
[02:40] <linduxed> !justask
[02:40] <freazer> _2: I just ran sudo -s and then: ﻿WHERE="`which update-lilo`" ;mv $WHERE / ;ln -s /bin/true $WHERE ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm $WHERE ;mv /update-lilo $WHERE
[02:40] <fearful> austin_ Shoot
[02:40] <Safe> Finally got my stupid connection working.
[02:40] <prince_jammys> !find asm/page.h
[02:40] <seam0nster> oh no, i dont use that
[02:40] <freazer> _2: I got mv: missing destination file operand after `/' and rm missing operand and mv missing destination
[02:40] <prince_jammys> maurer: ppu-sysroot, according to the bot
[02:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> good, it WILL NOT wirk on Ubuntu
[02:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> spent 3 days figuring that out
[02:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[02:40] <seam0nster> lol'd
[02:40] <qnn007> anybody got Trendnet TEW-631PCI working with Ubuntu?
[02:40] <xtian_> does anyone know why an awk command piped into another awk command stalls the output?
[02:41] <linduxed> austin_: dont ask to ask, just ask
[02:41] <xtian_> i.e. sudo tcpdump -nnvvi eth1 net 64.255.160.35 | awk '{print $17}' | awk '{print $1}'
[02:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok now what I want you to do is take out the USB card
[02:41] <maurer> prince_jammys: Thanks, I'll see if that works.
[02:41] <prahal> freazer, did you try dpkg-reconfigure -plow lilo  after adding back the "missing" disk ?
[02:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> place it into a DIFFERENT usb port
[02:41] <seam0nster> done
[02:41] <austin_> fearful: I installed a grpahics driver, and made my screen black on reeboot.  a white window comes up and tells me my screen resolution is messed up
[02:41] <prahal> freazer, your problem looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=507366
[02:41] <seam0nster> okay..
[02:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> now give a monite then re run iwconfig
[02:41] <doug__> trying to get DVD playback working in Ubuntu and I can't seem to get it. everytime I try to open a DVD totem and mplayer both just hard lock
[02:41] <doug__> using http://www.linlap.com/wiki/configuring+media+and+dvd+playback+in+ubuntu+8.10 as my guide
[02:42] <TuxSympathiser> I need some help with my acpi
[02:42] <oDesk> so if firehol is uninstalled, why i can't ping my Ubuntu laptop ?
[02:42] <fearful> austin_: Sorry someone else might be of assistance don't know much of graphics drivers mine simply works... :S
[02:42] <freazer> prahal: I found that error and that's why I went to #debian!
[02:42] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging?
[02:42] <Droopsta915> how do i open a movie with vlc
[02:42] <seam0nster> alright, i should mention that my only usb 2.0 port is in use providing me with internet via wireless modem
[02:42] <_2> freazer ummm then you already have moved it out of your path.   if the dpkg command didn't error out you can now put it back where it was and you should be fixed.
[02:42] <h00k> Droopsta915: right click -> Open with VLC
[02:42] <maurer> prince_jammys: That doesn't seem to have dumped anything in /usr/include/
[02:42] <vVvHACKERvVv> usb 2.0 is irrelevant
[02:42] <austin_> fearful: :[ any idea where i can get better help, or different drivers
[02:42] <seam0nster> good
[02:42] <vVvHACKERvVv> check again
[02:42] <xtian_> ?
[02:42] <fearful> austin_: Here
[02:43] <seam0nster> checking
[02:43] <austin_> fearful: yes?
[02:43] <fearful> austin_: Just not with me, someone else will have to help you with it.
[02:43] <prince_jammys> maurer: in my system: linux-libc-dev: /usr/include/asm/page.h
[02:43] <prahal> freazer, yup  anyway the solution is unknown there too (no comments) mostly I bet because lilo is getting abandonned since two years ago (when grub2 dev started)
[02:43] <seam0nster> it's stil the same -_-
[02:43] <fearful> austin_: State your problem again, I'm sure someone here can help
[02:43] <freazer> prahal: I just tried your -plow lilo command and I'm still having the issue
[02:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: what we are going to do is get kismet and install it, this will assist the process
[02:43] <prince_jammys> maurer: dpkg -S asm/page.h
[02:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> sudo apt-get install kismet
[02:43] <seam0nster> i have it installed
[02:44] <seam0nster> well
[02:44] <seam0nster> i have it anyway
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> good open the cofnig
[02:44] <h00k> I am having some lag problems with Docky (nVidia 177.82, x86_64 kernel), has anyone had problems with Docky lagging, and/or any ideas how to fix it?  Else, I'll just stick with AWN and use gnome-do
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> config
[02:44] <seam0nster> i havent used it
[02:44] <maurer> prince_jammys: ppu-sysroot: /usr/lib/cell/sysroot/usr/include/asm/page.h
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> I know you get an error
[02:44] <maurer> Seems to dump it elsewhere for that program.
[02:44] <maurer> Think it's safe to just copy it over?
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> I 've been there
[02:44] <Safe> If I uninstall network-manager, it wont remove any settings (resolv.conf for example)?
[02:44] <seam0nster> how do i go about opening the config (sorry)
[02:44] <freazer> prahal: is there a way to uninstall lilo and switch to grub or grub2? my /boot is wrapped inside an md0 mdadm raid mirror partition, and inside that further is an LVM2 of several partitions. the whole reason i used LILO was to be able to boot - it's the default way the Ubuntu 8.04 alternate CD installed my system
[02:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok lets open a terminal seamonster
[02:44] <Droopsta915> hook: All I see is open with movie player. I don't see vlc. I do have it installed
[02:45] <seam0nster> okay
[02:45] <vVvHACKERvVv> I use pico, so type suco pico -w /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[02:45] <prince_jammys> maurer: i don't know what you're doing, but that dpkg command will show packages that have installed that file
[02:45] <vVvHACKERvVv> sudo*
[02:45] <_2> freazer just install grub2    NOTE it is a little different,  you configure it in /etc/defaults/grub
[02:45] <prahal> freazer, I cannot tell you about that (did not use md nor lvm yet)
[02:46] <seam0nster> okay cool
[02:46] <seam0nster> aload of stuff is up
[02:46] <austin_> so yah, anyone know anything about graphic drivers?  If i don't get this situated soon, i'ma have to switch back to windows -_-
[02:46] <vVvHACKERvVv> now read me line number 33
[02:46] <seam0nster> looks nice to see that it looks asif somthings working
[02:46] <prahal> though I may be able to take _2 example a step further . Did his tweak changed the error message ?
[02:46] <vVvHACKERvVv> to ge tyour line number in pico type contorl+c
[02:47] <zurn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115843/plain/
[02:47] <seam0nster> the only thing i see that seems relvent is  Read 337 lines
[02:47] <austin_> Anyone know anything about graphic driver support?
[02:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> you have to scroll sown
[02:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> user your arrow keys
[02:47] <zurn> im sure that there have been several questions about this - do we need to worry about the unix time thing? the article says that it is fixed in linux...
[02:47] <MoTec> unix time will work fine, even past the epoch.
[02:48] <MoTec> 1234567890 is coming in a week or so... Nothing to be concerned about.
[02:48] <prahal> freazer, you should take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/lilo.postinst
[02:48] <freazer> _2, prahal, vVvHACKERvVv: please look at http://pastebin.com/m40a5e298 - this is a joke. I can't even install grub2 my system is completely crippled by this problem!!
[02:48] <MoTec> Unless the world ends, of course.. Then it might have been something worth worrying about.
[02:48] <kdorf> MoTec: How do you figure unix time will work fine when it overflows its data type?
[02:48] <prahal> and add the -H switch
[02:48] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: I will take a look
[02:48] <zurn> but when playing around with the number, and can get it to go to Tue May 17 23:33:19 2033
[02:48] <MoTec> kdorf: it's not going to overflow for some time, yet.
[02:48] <zurn> and thats 19999999
[02:49] <chu_> Hi - I have a problem with power management, I've asked the question a few times on the Ubuntu help forums, but no responses.
[02:49] <Javier17> hello, i use ubuntu 8.04 hardy...i'm having some troubles playing and burning dvds.. as well as hearing musci cds... the thing is that in ubuntu 8.10 and in XP i'm able to do that freely,, i've checked the forums, and the lead i've got is this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=852673 can somebody help me with this.. thanks
[02:49] <fearful> freazer: If nothing is working, why don't you completely backup your system and re-install that will surely fix the problem
[02:49] <kdorf> MoTec: Well of course not, but I don't know that was the nature of his question.
[02:49] <oDesk>  why i can't ping my Ubuntu from windows laptop ? all at the same LAN ? btw i can ping else pc's
[02:49] <MoTec> 2038 is when it will overflow
[02:49] <MoTec> I plan to be drunk, then.
[02:49] <danbhfive> Javier17: if its fixed in 8.10, whats the problem?
[02:49] <chu_> Basically, my laptop under 8.10 (though 8.04 worked) doesn't detected my battery, but it still runs when I pull the ac plug out.
[02:49] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: thats a big problem
[02:49] <freazer> fearful: how is this any better than Windows? just teasing/trolling you guys a little bit
[02:49] <fearful> freazer: http://www.zimbio.com/the+ubuntu+guy/articles/47/Backup+Ubuntu+Easy+Way+Command+Line   > Will show you how to back up completley and restore
[02:50] <Javier17> ﻿danbhfive i have problems with openoffice in 8.10
[02:50] <freazer> prahal: I'm looking into that file now, thanks
[02:50] <hev>  /server irc.islifecorp.com.br
[02:50] <Javier17> ﻿danbhfive i prefer to use 8.04
[02:50] <zurn> ok, thanks MoTec
[02:50] <danbhfive> Javier17: what problems do you have with OO?
[02:50] <seam0nster> vVvHACKERvVv i can't see it :(
[02:50] <Javier17> ﻿danbhfive 00
[02:50] <fearful> freazer: Linux, is not an easy system you have to be aware sometimes you will fail and will have to start from scratch, I think any real Linux users has had that experience
[02:50] <seam0nster> i looked carefully
[02:50] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: what cant you see
[02:50] <freazer> fearful: I'll look into it. my biggest concern is that my /home is on another partition, and when I reinstalled none of the users could login because they didn't have write permissions to themselves. I'll be reading that URL now
[02:50] <Javier17> ﻿danbhfive ¿
[02:50] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok listen
[02:50] <seam0nster> line 33
[02:50] <austin_> *sigh* so no one knows anything about drivers?
[02:51] <danbhfive> Javier17: OO = OpenOffice
[02:51] <Safe> austin_: If noone knows, try asking a little later. :)
[02:51] <ScottG489> I just made a new swap partition because my old one was too small to hibernate. Now when I hibernate it seems to shut down normally but when I start back up its just like a normal freash startup. What could the problem be?
[02:51] <vVvHACKERvVv> we are are looking for the section in that file that says...sources are defined here
[02:51] <fearful> freazer: If your home is in another partition, it'll be even easier just install and set the boot to the new partition as /home
[02:51] <austin_> ok
[02:51] <austin_> gracias
[02:51] <khoi> hi everybody
[02:51] <Javier17> ﻿danbhfive cannot open any document
[02:51] <seam0nster> ohhh
[02:51] <vVvHACKERvVv> it is only 7% of the document down
[02:51] <harushimo> I'm having probably playing dvds
[02:51] <Javier17> ﻿danbhfive it duddenly closes
[02:51] <seam0nster> i see what u mean now.. the 33rd line ?
[02:51] <austin_> whats the difference between ubuntu 64 bit and 32 bit
[02:51] <austin_> is it major?
[02:52] <harushimo> I just put in a new dvd rom not even 3 months ago
[02:52] <austin_> and are the drivers any different
[02:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> here is what my config says...source=rt73,wlan0,wifiHACKED
[02:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> you with me now
[02:52] <okibisan> anyone have an account on ubuntuforums?
[02:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> ??
[02:52] <G-Blunted> hey how do you do the cube mode in  COmpiz?
[02:52] <seam0nster> yeah!
[02:52] <Safe> austin_: A good thing would also to ask about the specific problem you have.
[02:52] <seam0nster> 1 sec
[02:52]  * vVvHACKERvVv has ubuntu forum acct
[02:52] <keres> is xubuntu more light weight than ubuntu? will it run better on a crappy pc?
[02:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> I take it that you did not edit this file before using kismet
[02:52] <tabidachi_> yes keres
[02:52] <okibisan> can you download cxmenu.tar from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=828651 for me?
[02:52] <Kryzler> keres yes
[02:52] <prince_jammys> keres: allegedly yes
[02:52] <Javier17> keres, yes it will
[02:52] <austin_> My computer, when i install my driver for my graphics card, displays a black screen upon reboot
[02:52] <okibisan> it's attached to the first post
[02:52] <russia213> How do you partition a drive to ntfs qith gparted?
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> okibisan: I will download that for you after you test out a binary program for me
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> deal?
[02:53] <okibisan> i tried to sign up but it threw a php error at me
[02:53] <Dartel> I am running Ubuntu on a pretty crappy machine no issues so far
[02:53] <okibisan> what binary?
[02:53] <prince_jammys> russia213: probably select 'primary' for type, and 'ntfs' for file system
[02:53] <seam0nster> # Sources are defined as:
[02:53] <seam0nster> ???
[02:53] <Safe> austin_: I have no idea about your problem, but I've seen people in here with similiar problems.
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster yes
[02:53] <seam0nster> i havent used kismit at all
[02:53] <Safe> austin_: I guess you've googled it?
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> I know seam0nster
[02:53] <linduxed> austin_: two things, did you install with the "Restricted Drivers" dialog or by manually downloading the drivers somewhere?
[02:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> I know your pain
[02:54] <seam0nster> alright.. should i pm it to you ?
[02:54] <austin_> Safe: great.  yah , i don't really know what to google
[02:54] <fearful> austin_ You can also try posting on the forums
[02:54] <seam0nster> :)
[02:54] <okibisan> what binary...
[02:54] <austin_> linduxed: I did the restricted drivers
[02:54] <vVvHACKERvVv> okibisan: its called system check
[02:54] <vVvHACKERvVv> ...
[02:54] <linduxed> austin_: what card?
[02:54] <freazer> prahal: on line 69 of /var/lib/dpkg/info/lilo.postinst  -- it calls /sbin/lilo ! I'm going to edit this file to call /sbin/lilo -H ! I think this might force dpkg to ignore my raid issue!
[02:54] <okibisan> can you please just get the file for me? lol
[02:54] <austin_> linduxed: ATI...lemmi find the rest of the specs
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> okibiasn: I was kidding
[02:55] <Gnea> okibisan: could you please just fix your account?
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> I would never ask you to run an unsolicited binary
[02:55] <okibisan> gnea: it's throwing a php error when signing up... what do you want me to do?
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> or would I
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> ..
[02:55] <austin_> linduxed: the driver is called : ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[02:55] <prince_jammys> austin_: 'lspci' in a terminal will show you
[02:55] <fearful> austin_ He needs to know what YOUR graphic card is tho
[02:55] <Gnea> okibisan: fix it!!  try pastebin'ing the actual error?
[02:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: we need to get that card working so we can add a source in kismet conf
[02:56] <Dartel> ask..never beg plead demand.....perhaps.
[02:56] <seam0nster> okay :)
[02:56] <Gnea> !ask
[02:56] <austin_> linduxed:
[02:56] <seam0nster> how do we do that ?
[02:56] <austin_> linduxed 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
[02:56] <vVvHACKERvVv> sea: thats what we are doing
[02:56] <prince_jammys> !ati | austin_
[02:56] <vVvHACKERvVv> its a process NEVEr a quick fix on Linux
[02:56] <freazer> quick easy question: I can ln -s /place mylink   and then rm mylink and it will just remove the link, not the actual file, right?
[02:56] <seam0nster> great... -_-
[02:56] <vVvHACKERvVv> but once working, will work forever
 are you gonna get the file for me?
[02:56] <prahal> freazer, yes that seems the best option . to have a working install before transitioning to grub2 (which in the long term seems a good switch)
[02:56] <prince_jammys> freazer: yep
[02:57] <seam0nster> well, thats good to know
[02:57] <Artelus> Hey
[02:57] <Artelus> I have a question
[02:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> oki: you will ahve to wait for now I am helping seam0nster exploit wirless networks
[02:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[02:57] <austin_> eh, i'm not very linux savy, as this is only me second install (the first one uninstalled cuz of other problems on a differnet comptuer)
[02:57] <Artelus> I managed to begin installing ubuntu, and it resized my windows partition and started to install it on the partition it just created, ok?
[02:57] <seam0nster> lol wut, exploit ?
[02:58] <Artelus> But it got interrupted in the middle and I had to restart my computer
[02:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> I know exactly what you are trying to do
[02:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> don't lie
[02:58] <fearful> Artelus: In the middle of the installation?
[02:58] <Artelus> I formatted the new partition, but I don't know how to get ubuntu to install on that parttion
[02:58] <Dartel> busted
[02:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> you want to SEE if you can do it
[02:58] <Gnea> okibisan: he already told you no. if you want the file, you'll have to download it yourself. if you're unwilling to try and figure out the php error, then you're obviously up to no good.
[02:58] <Artelus> Yeah, in the middle of the installation
[02:58] <Safe> Is there a way to disable eth1?
[02:58] <Safe> (using eth0)
[02:58] <okibisan> up to no good?
[02:58] <austin_> ubottu: so, is my make older or newer?
[02:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> safe: ifconfig eth1 down
[02:58] <Artelus> When I started over, there's only the option to resize the windows partition again, but I can't tell it to install to the new ex3 partition
[02:58] <Xeon> hi everoyne, i have a quick question regarding the dualboot of ubutnu and xp
[02:58] <okibisan> how can i possibly fix their php error?
[02:58] <fearful> austin_ ubottu is a bot, he will not answer :p
[02:59] <Safe> vVvHACKERvVv: thanks.
[02:59] <Gnea> okibisan: i've already told you the first step. it's up to you to take it.
[02:59] <Artelus> So how do i do that?
[02:59] <austin_> fearful: x(
[02:59] <fearful> Artelus: You have to choose a manual install then click the new partition and mount it as /
[02:59] <austin_> fearful: do you know if my make is older or newer?
[02:59] <Gnea> !pastebin
[02:59] <okibisan> gnea: does anyone in here actually have the authority to change files on that server?
[02:59] <Xeon> hi everoyne, i have a quick question regarding the dualboot of ubutnu and xp
[02:59] <Artelus> I clicked on the partition and clicked next, and there was some kind of error
[02:59] <fearful> austin_: Wouldn't know sorry:(
[02:59] <histo> !ask | Xeon
[02:59] <Artelus> I don't really understand
[03:00] <austin_> anyone know?
[03:00] <fearful> Artelus: What error?
[03:00] <Gnea> okibisan: what's it to ya? just pastebin the error already
[03:00] <harushimo> anyone know how to get dvds working properly
[03:00] <Artelus> Like
[03:00] <Artelus> something about root
[03:00] <Safe> Btw, what is the problem when ping returns "unknown host" ?
[03:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> seamonter: post your iwconfig info to the PM window
[03:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> need a look at that
[03:00] <histo> Safe: you can't resolve the hostname
[03:00] <freazer> prahal: it didn't work!!! I'm wondering if the problem is with initramfs-tools.postinst instead? I don't see how this is a Ubuntu problem and not a Debian problem btw ...
[03:00] <prahal> harushimo, switch to totem-xine , add medibuntu repos
[03:00] <Xeon> ok, lol, well I am running XP on my whole HD and I would like to install Ubuntu, on half of it, how do I shrink my XP partition
[03:00] <|syockit|> Artelus: it says "root partition not formatted, might be dangerous"　something?
[03:00] <Artelus> not really
[03:01] <Artelus> How to I mount it as /?
[03:01] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: just delete windows
[03:01] <harushimo> will that work? mplayer isn't any good or vlc
[03:01] <Safe> histo: And why is that? Problems with DNS?
[03:01] <TAC-Mod> Running Apache2 webserver need help with creating authenticated login
[03:01] <fearful> Artelus: It will give you an option that says mount to and a drop list, click the /
[03:01] <harushimo> the dvd plays but it comes out choppy
[03:01] <freazer> I think I'm just going to rm -rf / and see what happens
[03:01] <Xeon> uhh, why would I want to do that? I need it for compatibilty reasons and gaming
[03:01] <vVvHACKERvVv> TAC: apache is my speciality also
[03:01] <histo> Safe: mostlikely try resolving the hostname first. something like dig www.address your trying to ping.com
[03:01] <prahal> freazer, this is also a debian pb but hey the only way to prove this point is to resolve  it :-/
[03:01] <histo> Safe: then see if you can ping that ip
[03:01] <Artelus> Alright, can you explain what that does? :)
[03:01] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: compat my ASS, run windows in VMWARE under liunx
[03:01] <Gnea> freazer: sounds like a reasonable solution
[03:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> I will even give you a KEY
[03:02] <prince_jammys> austin_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:02] <Xeon> under vmware can my games run at the same speed?
[03:02] <Safe> histo: it just shows nothing.
[03:02] <Gnea> !language | vVvHACKERvVv
[03:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> usually, what system specs
[03:02] <fearful> Artelus: It just tells it that there's where the system needs to be installed and run off on when you start the computer or click the GRUB option for Ubuntu
[03:02] <austin_> prince_jammys: 8.10 32 bit
[03:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> family friendly
[03:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> are you kidding me
[03:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> lol
[03:02]  * Gnea blinks
[03:02] <Artelus> Alright, thanks ^^
[03:02] <Safe> histo: How can I be on IRC when I can't reach anything else?
[03:02] <histo> Safe: dig isn't doing anything in console?
[03:03] <fearful> np
[03:03] <Xeon> 2 GB RAM, ATI 3200, 2.5 GHZ AMD Dual COre
[03:03] <TAC-Mod> vvvhackervvv is there a site i can goto to learn to create a login script and file containing usernames and passwords?
[03:03] <Safe> histo: well it timed out.
[03:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> TAC : you are referring to .htaccess
[03:03] <Xeon> ati 780g
[03:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> apache.org
[03:03] <histo> Safe: try something known like dig www.google.com
[03:03] <TAC-Mod> ok thx
[03:03] <histo> Xeon: no
[03:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> HTACCESS tutorials
[03:03] <Safe> histo: same.
[03:03] <jrib> !enter | vVvHACKERvVv
[03:03] <Xeon> no what?
[03:03]  * TAC-Mod has went to apache website and is not reading chat
[03:03] <histo> Xeon: there are issues with 3d acceleration and virtual machines
[03:03] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: SOME not all 3d acc
[03:04] <Xeon> so my gaming won't be similar
[03:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> dont listem to him
[03:04] <histo> Xeon: there are other options such as seeing if you games will run under wine. or use linux based games
[03:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> ignore him
[03:04] <histo> Xeon: it would be if they work with wine but not under vmware if they are 3d based games
[03:04] <Xeon> i am looking to play halo 1 multi. and maybe wow
[03:04] <histo> Xeon: what games are we talking about here.
[03:04] <Joker_-_> anyone here has an idea why mythbuntu couldn't recongnize my DVD burner as a burner? (I can read CDs/DVDs but can't burn anything).
[03:04] <Gnea> !cedega | Xeon
[03:04] <histo> Safe: thats wierd can you browse the web on this machine?
[03:04] <Xeon> kotor, halo 1, wow
[03:04] <histo> Gnea: Xeon cedega costs $
[03:04] <vVvHACKERvVv> wine will not work EVER correctly
[03:05] <histo> Gnea: Xeon wine is free
[03:05] <Gnea> histo: so?
[03:05] <histo> Xeon: wow works the others you can search on appdb.winehq.org
[03:05] <seam0nster1> SORRY
[03:05] <Xeon> well lets get back to my original question since gaming isnt equal
[03:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> WB seam0nster
[03:05] <Xeon> lol
[03:05] <seam0nster1> vVvHACKERvVv
[03:05] <Safe> histo: No, but I noticed that network-manager removed my DNS.
[03:05] <Gnea> if you can afford $15/mo for WoW, you can afford $5/mo for cedega
[03:05] <histo> Xeon: it may be if you check on wine
[03:05] <prahal> freazer, /usr/share/initramfs/hooks/lilo
[03:05] <linduxed> austin_: http://rafb.net/p/daQxkR85.html try those
[03:05] <seam0nster1> my laptop overheated -_-
[03:05] <Safe> histo: do you know if I can remove network-manager without it removing any of my settings?
[03:05] <Xeon> gnea, i paly on a private server i odnt pay
[03:05] <austin_> linduxed: hey, i think there giving me the wrong driver. the information presented is not my card
[03:05] <vVvHACKERvVv> yea
[03:05] <histo> Gnea: Xeon  why pay for cedega if wow works fine under wine?
[03:06] <vVvHACKERvVv> I am here seam0nster
[03:06] <wikkedfin> can ubuntu server handle Two Quad Core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5345 @ 2.33GHz with 8GB ram?
[03:06] <linduxed> austin_: could be
[03:06] <austin_> linduxed: this is the picutre of it:  http://www.dvhardware.net/news/asus_radeon_hd_4850_1gb_dh.jpg
[03:06] <Gnea> histo: if you can get it to work fine in wine, then great
[03:06] <freazer> prahal: You are very determined to help me, I can't thank you enough even if we don't crack this ^^
[03:06] <ScottG489> I just made a new swap partition because my old one was too small to hibernate. Now when I hibernate it seems to shut down normally but when I start back up its just like a normal freash startup. What could the problem be?
[03:06] <histo> Safe: if you add yoru settings to /etc/network/inerfaces
[03:06] <seam0nster1> phew
[03:06] <freazer> prahal: looking into it
[03:06] <vVvHACKERvVv> wine will ONLY SERVE to deter linux users
[03:06] <austin_> linduxed: Any idea on how to get the right one?
[03:06] <Xeon> ok, well my main question is how can I shrink my XP drive to install ubuntu on the partition
[03:06] <quadaptor> exists a bash command, that runs a command for each line in file (like find -exec), e.g.   cat filelist.txt -exec basename {} \;
[03:06] <histo> Safe: then you don't need nm
[03:06] <austin_> linduxed: would updating all the software work?
[03:06] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: so will your attitude.
[03:06] <Safe> histo: yeah, I've added them manually.
[03:06] <vVvHACKERvVv> its not attitude Gnea, it experience
[03:07]  * Dartel fans seamOnsters laptop
[03:07] <histo> Xeon: boot the ubuntu install cd and use gparted to shrink xp partition.
[03:07] <prahal> freazer, well . It refresh my memory and prepare me for when I will finally make the step to raid and lvm :)
[03:07] <Safe> histo: just afraid that nm is gonna mess with my settings if I remove it. :D
[03:07] <Xeon> but if you are saying gaming can be equal, how can i instlal ubuntu from xp and delete xp?
[03:07] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: no, you've got a terrible attitude, and it needs to change, please.
[03:07] <histo> Gnea: it works flawlessly along with countless other games.
[03:07] <cjae> how do I tell what linux filesystem I have eg, reiserfs, ext3?
[03:07] <Xeon> i dont want to use a cd rom or a usb jsut str8 from the hd
[03:07] <vVvHACKERvVv> Word of warning, the partition manager during ubuntu install has a tendency to fail when shrinking windows partitions
[03:07] <Gnea> histo: i heard about that, it can work quite well.
[03:07] <vVvHACKERvVv> from EXPERIENCE
[03:07] <prahal> though I am guessing from other scripts . I do not have lilo installed for years
[03:07] <histo> Xeon: well then you need a program to resize
[03:07] <seam0nster1> it overheats when i have it on a fabric surface, i forgot (in bed)
[03:07] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: for you. never had that problem here.
[03:08] <s4nd3r> Hi. To reinstall grub, after reinstall XP, is just to run update-grub right???? But, I got an error:
[03:08] <s4nd3r> findfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=0015ea14-8c25-4aaf-9a84-bb5fb58190c1'
[03:08] <Safe> vVvHACKERvVv: me neither.
[03:08] <s4nd3r> how solve it?
[03:08] <Xeon> but you guys are making me having second doubts on keeping xp lol
[03:08] <histo> Xeon: and there is agoing to be an issue with resizing a partition that you are currently using.
[03:08] <vVvHACKERvVv> Gnea: not for me, for about 30% of the corporate machines I have installed it
[03:08] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: it would be better if you properly researched your problems and found concrete solutions before spouting your opinions as fact.
[03:08] <austin_> liduxed: I really don't know man, i think i'ma shove windows on this machine
[03:08] <fearful> cjae: sudo cat /etc/fstab and look
[03:08] <kop> vVvHACKERvVv, remember the human
[03:08] <vVvHACKERvVv> Gnea: these aren't opinions
[03:08] <histo> Xeon: thats why most peole boot to something such as cd or usb to run a partitioning program to resize
[03:08] <kop> Gnea, remember the human
[03:08] <prince_jammys> austin_: see if this is useful: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[03:08] <freazer> I think vVvHACKERvVv is right in giving a warning. Be _very sure_ your data is backed up before performing a NTFS resize because there is a much greater chance during that operation that your data can be permanently lost
[03:09] <histo> Xeon: how do you plan on installing ubuntu if you don't want to use cd?
[03:09] <vVvHACKERvVv> these people don't understand that freazer
[03:09] <Xeon> if the gaming is very similar (which I hope) then can I instlal ubuntu from my XP HD and delete the XP in the process fo installing ubuntu
[03:09] <histo> Xeon: wubi?
[03:09] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: there's a time and a place for such statements. consider a URL.
[03:09] <fearful> I would suggest every one to move to Ubuntu it will make the world a better place :)
[03:09] <vVvHACKERvVv> always want to start a fight and assert idiocy
[03:09] <Xeon> histo: i was going to use wubi and dual boot but now...
[03:09] <Flannel> freazer: Don't ever say those sorts of commands in here.
[03:09] <harushimo> everytime I play the dvd, it comes out choppy and plus I'm getting a CRC error
[03:09] <h00k> histo: you can with a USB drive, also
[03:09] <Gnea> freazer: that's actually pretty common knowledge around here
[03:10] <cjae> fearful: ok how do I tell if its reiser4 or not?
[03:10] <Gnea> kop: we are human, are you not?
[03:10] <Guest28254> hey guys, i'm in preferred applications and i'm trying to write a custom line to have things get launched using firefox 3.1 beta. which i installed myself. what is the commandline switch i have to use to make it open a target instead of just the home page?
[03:10] <Kryzler> Gnea what's the problem? vVvHACKERvVv is just reminding us to do something that a lot of people forget
[03:10] <histo> Xeon: well youc an search online there are rescue cds that you can use or even put on a thumb drive to boot to and resize then go back in windows and use wubi after resizing.
[03:10] <Dartel> Folks this is not being productive
[03:10] <kop> we tend to type things here we would never say to someone in person , well at least not the way we type it here . just remember there is another human being on the other side of the conversation here
[03:10] <freazer> prahal: that path doesn't exist on my computer. I have /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/ which is close. the contents are "brltty, console_tools, fuse_utils, lvm2, ntfs_3g, udev, console_setup, dmsetup, kernelextras, mdadm, thermal, usplash" but no lilo
[03:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> First off I will say what I want, I will never be told by you or anyone what I can say, I am here to help people so just sit back an be quiet, perhaps you'll learn something
[03:10] <fearful> cjae: Well it should say ext3 if it is ext3 or else what it is
[03:11] <vVvHACKERvVv> thanks for the backup guys
[03:11] <Xeon> histo: but is it possible to install Ubuntu from the XP HD (mounting it) and then deleteing XP during the install?
[03:11] <histo> Xeon: that i don't know of someone else may know the answer. I've never messed with the wubi install.
[03:11] <cjae> fearful: I just says reiser but would like to know if its the old one or not
[03:11] <keres> is xubuntu more light weight than windows 2000?
[03:12] <histo> !install | Xeon
[03:12] <linduxed> austin_: "threatening" the channel with switching to windows doesnt help...might do the opposite but not help.
[03:12] <prahal> freazer, find /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ |grep lilo . Sorry for the missing part of the path earlier
[03:12] <fearful> cjae: I don't know sorry I thought it should have said there.
[03:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster you still here
[03:12] <austin_> linduxed: eh, i read it some where on digg that it would work.
[03:12] <cjae> !reiserfs
[03:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> may we get back to your issue
[03:12] <seam0nster1> yes
[03:12] <linduxed> austin_: it should also
[03:12] <seam0nster1> when you're ready good sir
[03:13] <vVvHACKERvVv> lets roll
[03:13] <linduxed> austin_: but i dont think you got the right drivers thats all
[03:13] <seam0nster1> :)
[03:13] <clay_the_arc> anyone care to help me with a sound issue?
[03:13] <vVvHACKERvVv> like I said, post your sys specs and iwconfig output to the private window
[03:13] <itchydog> !info | nmap
[03:13] <vVvHACKERvVv> need a look at that
[03:13] <Xeon> Does any1 know the answer to this: is it possible to install Ubuntu from the XP HD (mounting it) and then deleteing XP during the install?
[03:13] <freazer> prahal: I'm starting to want to switch my majors :-D no more computers for me.. maybe I should study music? the command " find /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ |grep lilo " found no files with lilo in the name.. I dropped the grep and I can confirm
[03:13] <austin_> prince_jammys: do i just do all the commands on that page?
[03:13] <fearful> Well I'm out for tonight guys good night see you tomorrow
[03:13] <seam0nster1> okay
[03:13] <keres> is xubuntu more light weight than windows 2000?
[03:13] <Xeon> bye
[03:13] <itchydog> !info nmap
[03:14] <linduxed> austin_: a system update is something one should always do so try that, might be the xorg package screwing stuff up
[03:14] <fearful> keres: I can assure you yes, its made for light resources.
[03:14] <russia213> How do you unlock a partition? >.< I've already used gksu but I still can't repartition my drive
[03:14] <prince_jammys> austin_: i don't know. it just seemed like something worth checking out
[03:14] <tabidachi_> keres, yes
[03:14] <clay_the_arc> I'm getting a "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." Error message when i click on my volume control app on the top of my screen can anyone help?
[03:14] <keres> woot
[03:14] <keres> fearful: thanks
[03:14] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: Here is the answer, if you want to do ti from windows, use a partition manager to shrink partitions WITHIN windows, you do not want to lose data
[03:14] <austin_> alright well g2g then, i'll update
[03:14] <keres> tabidachi_: thanks
[03:14] <austin_> bye
[03:14] <prahal> freazer, geee . then the way to go could be grub2 ... by dpkg -P lilo
[03:14] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: simply then install into freespace its the safest way
[03:14] <prahal> beforehand
[03:14] <Xeon> vvhacker: I wont, this is a fresh computer
[03:14] <Gnea> !partition | Xeon
[03:15] <prahal> but this is dangerous . Do you have a boot disk ?
[03:15] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: your primary goal is dual boot correct?
[03:15] <Gnea> !dualboot
[03:15] <prahal> dangerous in that if something goes wrong (could be misunderstanding of the question it asks , something not included in the questions , ...
[03:15] <Xeon> well, now that you said vmware is similar, I won't mind to just use ubuntu only
[03:16] <prince_jammys> russia213: use the gparted live cd, or the ubuntu livecd, and boot to that
[03:16] <clay_the_arc> I'm getting a "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." Error message when i click on my volume control icon on the top of my screen can anyone help?
[03:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: thats fine like I said I will even give you a key JUST TO SEE IT, you will then hav eto go buy your own hey...
[03:16] <brandon_> how can i check to see if my graphics card is running right?
[03:16] <russia213> prince_jammys: I'll try that
[03:17] <vVvHACKERvVv> actually, who cares, I will give yo ua perm KEY just for getting rid of windows
[03:17] <Gnea> Xeon: you don't even need a key, just install vmware server or get virtualbox
[03:17] <freazer> prahal: were all the previous messages directed towards me? I already did dpkg -P lilo and it worked.. goodbye!! mwahaha! and now apt-get install grub2 still says lilo failed :-D har har. I am now doing find / |grep update-initramfs and I'm going to examine each script directly to try to find references to lilo
[03:17] <Xeon> vvhacker: ok but will the install corrupt when i want to delete XP
[03:17] <Xeon> since it is running under XP?
[03:17] <Gnea> !vbox | Xeon
[03:17] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: not if you use the entire disk inside the installer partition mgr
[03:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> the problems occur when resizing NTFS within installer
[03:18] <Xeon> oh
[03:18] <prahal> freazer, oh so  try sudo update-initramfs -c -k <your kernel number> (note -c while installer try -u)
[03:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> there is a 30% chance it wont work
[03:18] <Xeon> so as long as I take up all the space for ubuntu there willl be no prob, correct?
[03:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> correct
[03:18] <Sarthor> Hi, I am using this link for helping to use 2 gateways for my linux router, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IProuteRoundRobbin the 2nd gateway is not working, some sites opening and some not, I am here for help
[03:18] <Gnea> Xeon: if virtualization is a bit much, you might also want to consider wubi, especially since it's a new computer
[03:18] <Gnea> !wubi | Xeon
[03:18] <G-Blunted> ya partitionmanager resized my xp partition to 5GB with no problems...you could probably use it to delete the partition all together maybe?
[03:18] <prahal> freazer, yep if I knew it was purged I won't have told you to look after lilo files :-(
[03:19] <Xeon> g-blunted: that is the goal
[03:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> The ubuntu installer will ahve 3 options
[03:19] <Xeon> well do u game with vmware?
[03:19] <prahal> the only remainings files are in the binary initramfs image (which will be erased by -c)
[03:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> use entire disk, resize or specifiy, or manual
[03:19] <Xeon> ah
[03:19] <G-Blunted> Xeon, ya i resized it to a real small size...not sure about deleting it tho
[03:19] <G-Blunted> probably could tho
[03:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: yes I use VMWARE for ONLY gaming its the only time I EVER run windows
[03:19] <Xeon> and what is the quality like
[03:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> and I love that I can run it within Ubunut/Linux
[03:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon, no difference
[03:20] <kindofabuzz> what games?
[03:20] <freazer> I remember there was a system variable for my kernel number, or a way to determine my kernel number, but I don't remember the specifics, anyone?
[03:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> only difference if you have a slow machine
[03:20] <Xeon> kotor 2
[03:20] <Xeon> wow
[03:20] <vVvHACKERvVv> I run C&C Generals, Civ IV, COD, BattleField 1943
[03:20] <seam0nster1> what ?
[03:21] <kindofabuzz> i'm so out of touch with new games, can't play any of them anyways, p4 1.5Ghz , WoW runs decent, about as new as i get
[03:21] <seam0nster1> okay.... ami still here ?
[03:21] <miller_> uname -a will give kernel number I believe
[03:21] <seam0nster1> generals zh is awesome
[03:21] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: AMEN
[03:21] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[03:21] <Dartel> your there I am here
[03:21] <vVvHACKERvVv> Love C&C ZH
[03:21] <Xeon> ok, and is openoffice comaptible with microsfot excel
[03:21] <seam0nster1> me too
[03:21] <kindofabuzz> vVvHACKERvVv, won't those run with Wine? why vmware?
[03:21] <Gnea> !enter
[03:21] <seam0nster1> c&c3 pissed me off
[03:21] <clay_the_arc> I'm getting a "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." Error message when i click on my volume control icon on the top of my screen can anyone help?
[03:21] <brandon_> could someone help me get my visual effects to work ?
[03:22] <MoTec> Xeon: I know it reads older excel documents no problem.. Miht still have problems witht he Office 2007 formats, tho.
[03:22] <jerbear> flash video is pretty choppy, but my computer is pretty fast. what might be causing this?
[03:22] <vVvHACKERvVv> kindofabuzz: I have tried every emulator, wine just does not work correctly
[03:22] <G-Blunted> freazer, uname -ro
[03:22] <Xeon> and how is video player
[03:22] <vVvHACKERvVv> Xeon: what do you mean vid player
[03:22] <Xeon> have you heard of elisa?
[03:22] <Xeon> is it good?
[03:22] <Dartel> SeamOnster you get your issue fixed?
[03:23] <vVvHACKERvVv> we are still working on seam0nsters' issue
[03:23] <Sarthor> Hi, I am using this link for helping to use 2 gateways for my linux router, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IProuteRoundRobbin the 2nd gateway is not working, some sites opening and some not, I am here for help
[03:23] <vVvHACKERvVv> got sidetracked about C&C
[03:23] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[03:23] <histo> Xeon: oo is compatible with excel and doc and everything
[03:23] <seam0nster1> ^_^ np
[03:23] <slamdn> Hey guys, im in a lot of trouble right now. My motherboard got fried so i transfered my  hdds to another mobo which only has onboard graphics (and does not have an agp slot for my gfx card) and now everytime i try to boot into ubuntu 8.10 everything is fine untill the little orange loading bar is done, then the screen goes batshit crazy display grey bars and what not. I think i should edit the xorg.conf file from a live cd but i dont know how to change it. 
[03:23] <Gnea> !effects | brandon_
[03:23] <freazer> miller_: uname -a worked great, thanks ^^
[03:23] <seam0nster1> wtf was that ?
[03:24] <try2free> why sudo apt-get update halt on 23% and continue after 2-3minute? how to solve this?
[03:24] <danbhfive> slamdn: have you tried removing your graphics drivers?
[03:24] <Dartel> I noticed thats why I brought your attention back to the VERY patient SeamOnster LOL
[03:24] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: its me in your system
[03:24] <vVvHACKERvVv> ;-)
[03:24] <Guest28254> hey guys, i'm in preferred applications and i'm trying to write a custom line to have things get launched using firefox 3.1 beta. which i installed myself. what is the commandline switch i have to use to make it open a target instead of just the home page?
[03:24] <seam0nster1> my laptop just made the "duh DUH"  noise asif i plugged in a usb thingy
[03:25] <seam0nster1> zomg tits or gtfo
[03:25] <vVvHACKERvVv> Lol
[03:25] <Kryzler> heh
[03:25] <kbrosnan> Guest6067: firefox %u i think
[03:25] <MoTec> slamdn: After it boots up and freaks out hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and you will get a standard, text mode, login prompt - no need for the live cd.
[03:25] <Gnea> seam0nster1: please don't say that again.
[03:25] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: I think I will need a shell account on your sytem...
[03:25] <radsy> firefox '%s' sigma92
[03:25] <seam0nster1> sorrt GNea
[03:25] <seam0nster1> sorry*
[03:25] <vVvHACKERvVv> LoL, I am kidding
[03:26] <seam0nster1> lol i hope so
[03:26] <radsy> oh, sorry sigma92 - i misread. that's not it.
[03:26] <Kryzler> heh, somebody asked me for my ip once
[03:26] <G-Blunted> how you make an account on your system?
[03:26] <Aster0ID> Hi everyone
[03:26] <G-Blunted> i wanna let someone login to a shell on my computer...
[03:26] <seam0nster1> me too, i gave it them too -_-
[03:26] <freazer> prahal: Thanks to your advice I fixed it.
[03:26] <seam0nster1> back in the days of sub7
[03:26] <MoTec> G-Blunted: useradd or is it adduser
[03:26] <MoTec> hmmm
[03:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: you still didn't give me the sys specs and USB Wifi model
[03:27] <Dartel> If you just transfered the hard drives the info is set up for the other system you have to redo the graphic drivers to match the other board
[03:27] <MoTec> damn this beer is good
[03:27] <seam0nster1> i didnt know any better at the time
[03:27] <seam0nster1> oh yeah
[03:27] <slamdn> motec, thanks. im on a live cd right now. how should i edit my xorg.conf file_?
[03:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> sub7...LoL, I knoew the people that wrote that
[03:27] <seam0nster1> how do i do that ?
[03:27] <seam0nster1> u know mobman ?!
[03:27] <freazer> prahal: the offending file wasn't calling update-lilo, it was just calling lilo direct from the script at /usr/s-bin/update-initramfs - on line 168
[03:27] <Dillizar> how can i record what i am doing on the desktop
[03:27] <Aster0ID> I want to install ubuntu and switch fro Vista to Linux. I want to buy an external hard drive and was wondering if encrypted hard drive would give me trouble with linux? this is the product I wanted: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4010243&CatId=136
[03:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: he's not mobman
[03:27] <MoTec> sladen: mount your file system and make the edit.
[03:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> thats all I can say
[03:27] <seam0nster1> oooooo
[03:27] <vVvHACKERvVv> anyway
[03:27] <MoTec> i;m sorry i'm a bit intoxicated.. i have no details
[03:27] <Oxygenfad> Hey guys, I want to remote access ubuntu from an XP machine. What program would I use to have remote desktop ?
[03:28] <vVvHACKERvVv> Oxygenfad: vncserver
[03:28] <freazer> Oxygenfad: I highly recommend xvnc4server
[03:28] <|ns|nR8> Oxygenfad, i use vnc
[03:28] <Oxygenfad> Thanks
[03:28] <sigma92> radsy: shucks =(
[03:28] <MoTec> mdkir /mnt/hd && mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/nd
[03:28] <Dillizar> how can i video record what i am doing on the desktop
[03:28] <sigma92> radsy: out of curiosity, what did you misread
[03:28] <freazer> Oxygenfad: and then on Windows use tightvnc to connect
[03:28] <alotbter> how do you do that cube thing in ubuntu?
[03:28] <clay_the_arc> I'm getting a "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." Error message when i click on my volume control icon on the top of my screen can anyone help?
[03:28] <MoTec> somethign like that.. then look for /etc/x11/wtfever under /mnt/hd
[03:28] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: I use gtk-recordmydesktop
[03:28] <vVvHACKERvVv> that is actually what brought me here
[03:29] <freazer> alotbter: you are looking for compiz-fusion desktop effects, it requires 3d acceleration
[03:29] <Kryzler> alotbter you enable advanced graphics effects
[03:29] <radsy> sigma92, when you said 'open a target'
[03:29] <radsy> sigma92, do you just want it to open a particular site?
[03:29] <Dillizar> alotbter, sudo apt-get insyall compiz
[03:29] <ktron> I need to figure out the 'grub name' (hd0, hd1, etc) for a device and I'm running off of the live cd... suggestions?
[03:29] <Dillizar> *install
[03:29] <Kryzler> alotber: although you may need to install a load of drivers
[03:29] <alotbter> where do you enable advanced graphics effects?
[03:30] <Kryzler> System -> Preferences ->
[03:30] <Kryzler> er....
[03:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> alotbter: admin->appearance
[03:30] <whatev> how can i make it so i can type http://foo.localhost/ and http://bar.localhost/ to create different subdomains on my apache installation?
[03:30] <Dartel> brb
[03:30] <Kryzler> what vVvHACKERvVv said ^_^
[03:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> oops Kry is right
[03:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> HAHA
[03:30] <Kryzler> Am i?
[03:30] <Kryzler> damn...
[03:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> LoL
[03:30] <Kryzler> er...
[03:30] <Dillizar> alotbter, system->preferences>adfs
[03:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> thats funny
[03:30] <Kryzler> *fail*
[03:30] <sync350> Is it possible to set up a user for ftp access and for them to not be able to use a shell, ex: ssh in.  I run an ftp server and an ssh server, but I want some users to be able to use their accounts as ftp only.
[03:30] <FloodBot1> Kryzler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <slamdn> How do i rename files in the command prompt_? thanks
[03:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> I tihk you were right ROFL
[03:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> I din't use the menu
[03:30] <FloodBot1> vVvHACKERvVv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> hahah
[03:30] <Dillizar> vVvHACKERvVv, where can i get this gtk-recordmydesktop
[03:30] <prahal> freazer, thanks for the info . Bye I am switching back to debian . I disagree with the way suspend is handled on ubuntu (and on a netbook this is pretty critical !) .
[03:31] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop
[03:31] <kitche> sync350: I should use virtual users for ftp server myself if you want them to be seperate from system users
[03:31] <alotbter> vVvHACKERvVv, Dillizar i dont see that option
[03:31] <freazer> prahal: I can understand that. you were extremely helpful and I can't thank you enough
[03:31] <Dillizar> its called cube alotbter
[03:31] <vVvHACKERvVv> alotbter: System->Preferences->Appearance
[03:31] <sync350> kitche: alright, I was thinking something along those lines, haven't really messed with virtual users that much, it'll give me something new to read up on though, thanks :)
[03:32] <sigma92> radsy: i mean that if i just put the command firefox-3.1 it opens my home page when i click on a link in Evolution
[03:32] <sigma92> radsy: when i'd rather it open the link itself
[03:32] <radsy> oh sigma92, then it is %s
[03:32] <try2free> please help. why sudo apt-get update halt on 23% and continue after 2-3minute? how to solve this?
[03:32] <prahal> long live choice :) I wish you ... no more stupid bugs eating hours of your life and enjoy precious time
[03:32] <Dillizar> alotbter, wait i will record a video to you thanks to vVvHACKERvVv  :P
[03:32] <sigma92> radsy: it works, good show old chap
[03:32] <jtaji> sigma92: yeah firefox %s
[03:32] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: You're welcome
[03:32] <Dillizar> :P
[03:33] <Dillizar> je sais mon ami
[03:33] <Dillizar> :D
[03:33] <vVvHACKERvVv> boy I am just saving the world tonight
[03:33] <alotbter> ok
[03:33] <vVvHACKERvVv> chcek out my video tutorials on youtube, seach for vVvHACKERvVv
[03:33] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: you were no help to me :-p
[03:33] <vVvHACKERvVv> ;-)
[03:33] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: sorry I am trying to help everyone I hav ea short attention span
[03:33] <Dillizar> hahahahahaa commercials  vVvHACKERvVv  SHAME ON YOU
[03:33] <vVvHACKERvVv> Its not a commercial
[03:33] <vVvHACKERvVv> its helpful
[03:34] <alotbter> what should i search for
[03:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> I do video tuts FOR linux on how to install and configure things
[03:34] <vVvHACKERvVv> SPECifically for Ubuntu and FreeBSD
[03:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> Hey I even use my voice instead of playing that damn techno garbage everyone playes when doing a tut on linux
[03:35] <vVvHACKERvVv> Lol
[03:35] <Kryzler> heh
[03:35] <seam0nster1> lol'd
[03:35] <Aster0ID> will Ubuntu recognise and charge my iphone?
[03:35] <Kryzler> yes
[03:35] <Kryzler> sometimes
[03:35] <GuruDrew> Techno phails
[03:35] <ryanprior> Aster0ID: One way to find out. =D
[03:36] <GuruDrew> Ubuntu works great with the G1
[03:36] <GuruDrew> Go figure
[03:36] <Kryzler> heh
[03:36] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: here's a good one for you: Ubuntu 8.04, I run "firefox" in the terminal and I get the following output back: "Illegal instruction" so I try firefox -safe_mode -- and I get the same error. I don't have flash or any of that silly stuff, this is a fresh installation! does this mean my kernel is corrupt or something?
[03:36] <GuruDrew> Writing some custom apps in Eclipse for android lol
[03:36] <GuruDrew> Pretty nice little OS
[03:36] <Kryzler> nice GuruDrew
[03:36] <Kryzler> :D
[03:36] <vVvHACKERvVv> why in terminal freazer?
[03:37] <Kryzler> cos he is hardcore
[03:37] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: so you bebop sing the techno sounds instead of play them in the background??
[03:37] <ryanprior> freazer: Does that happen when you use the LiveCD?
[03:37] <GuruDrew> vVvHACKERvVv, If it fails at terminal it's bound to fail at an icon, at least at terminal he gets output
[03:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> I said nothing about failing from an icon
[03:37] <nDuff> Aster0ID, it recognizes mine as a camera
[03:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> it was a general question to get the mental state of the user
[03:37] <Dillizar> alo its almost ready
[03:37] <vVvHACKERvVv> ::snicker::
[03:38] <freazer> ryanprior: liveCD works great, this is after I've tried reinstalling from the live CD.. I even do apt-get install --reinstall firefox or even purge firefox and then install firefox, and I get the same error.. is there a way to reinstall all dependencies?
[03:38] <Aster0ID> nDuff, does it charge it then?
[03:38] <riz0n> can someone recommend a good howto on running scripts in ubuntu
[03:38] <nDuff> Aster0ID, yup
[03:38] <Dillizar> vVvHACKERvVv,  dude makes my pc ho SLOW
[03:38] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: because when I run in the gui it doesn't give me an error.. it just says "Starting firefox..." for about 5 seconds and then closes
[03:38] <Aster0ID> nDuff, what do you do when you want to sync to itunes ?
[03:38] <riz0n> i want to write a shell script that will start another program from the shell
[03:38] <GuruDrew> The wine team needs to get cracking in GTA4 so I can delete this XP partition
[03:38] <Kryzler> riz0n terminal will run te scripts as long as you have the right stuff insatlled
[03:38] <nDuff> Aster0ID, use my Windows box at home
[03:38] <ryanprior> freazer: Since this is a fresh install, how about just reinstalling the whole OS and seeing if that helps?
[03:38] <vVvHACKERvVv> freazer: it could be a million things, believe it or not I don't have all the answeres
[03:38] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: what sort of mental state have you perused from my answer?
[03:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> at this point its research time
[03:39] <Kryzler> so riz0n e.g. you need java installed etc to run java
[03:39] <GuruDrew> 86% completion with only 25 hours play time, I'm such a loser.
[03:39] <austin_> Hey guys, just did a system update, the same driver is being shown to me ;(
[03:39] <ryanprior> freazer: If something went wrong with the install, any number of things could be broken.
[03:39] <riz0n> Kryzler: basically i want the script to run "BitchX 127.0.0.1"
[03:39] <nDuff> Aster0ID, ...if I didn't have one, I'd probably set it up for USB passthrough to a Windows instance running in VirtualBox.
[03:39] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: just trolling you :-) I've never had problems with firefox in Windows *tease*
[03:39] <Aster0ID> does that virtualbox run fast?
[03:39] <sonoblaise> I've installed the new CATALYST driver from the ATI website.  I causes some problems with allegro in wine.  Guys on the  wine told me to remove the ATI drivers and get the latest open drivers that should be enough for me because the open drivers in ubuntu are too old.  How do I remove the ATI package... i didn't used synaptic so I dont know how.  thanks!
[03:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> WINDOWS..DAMN you...
[03:39] <vVvHACKERvVv> LoL
[03:39] <riz0n> Kryzler: i will have some people connecting into my server through putty and i dont want everyone to have to type that entire command, so i want to create a command "chat" that will launch it.
[03:40] <GuruDrew> Haha, anyone got an invite for me to #wine? :)
[03:40] <nDuff> Aster0ID, I don't use it for games or anything, but sure.
[03:40] <try2free> how to get free support?
[03:40] <lstarnes> GuruDrew: try #winehq
[03:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> how dare you take advantage of my kindness
[03:40] <Kryzler> er....
[03:40] <Aster0ID> nDuff, ok, thanks
[03:40] <GuruDrew> lstarnes, Oh, that's right, thanks kindly
[03:40] <freazer> ryanprior: I figured as much ^^ working on mass reinstalling now.. thanks to prahal
[03:40] <alotbter> i still cant find advanced effects
[03:40] <Aster0ID> I am going to switch to Linux, once and for all
[03:40] <Dillizar> alotbter,
[03:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: it it working?
[03:40] <nDuff> Aster0ID, ...btw, while VirtualBox is ideal for desktop VMs, if you're going to be virtualizing servers or doing automated QA or somesuch, you might do well to look at KVM instead.
[03:40] <Dillizar> yeah
[03:40] <vVvHACKERvVv> good
[03:40] <Dillizar> but its f slow
[03:41] <ryanprior> freazer: If that doesn't work, I might suspect your hard drive, since that's a definite difference between the LiveCD and installed Ubuntu,.
[03:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> get a faster computer
[03:41] <Dillizar> it makes my ps SLOW
[03:41] <Kryzler> sorry riz0n I'm stuck on that one... although with IRC clients, normally the most popular way to do scripts that run automatically is to write a perl or python program and run it in IRSSI
[03:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> or switch to MAC
[03:41] <Dillizar> PC*
[03:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> !!
[03:41] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[03:41] <benjamin_> Hi can someone help me, I just get Ubuntu Server working and I need help setting things up.
[03:41] <FloodBot1> vVvHACKERvVv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:41] <nDuff> !ask > benjamin_
[03:41] <F4RR4R> If I'm going to use CVS/SVN to download the source code to the ogre/cegui/ode libraries and compile them myself, is there a specific place that ubuntu prefers I store that source code?
[03:41] <Aster0ID> nDuff, I would just need virtual vista to do some rare stuff
[03:42] <MoTec> F4RR4R: just download and extract to your home directory
[03:42] <Kryzler> riz0n just so you know, I can't do Perl OR Python... so don't ask me :P
[03:42] <MoTec> when you do the make and make install it'll put it where it belongs
[03:42] <Dillizar> alotbter, i hope it will work :)
[03:42] <F4RR4R> MoTec: Thanks. :)
[03:42] <riz0n> ok
[03:42] <nDuff> Aster0ID, ...yar, vbox should be fine for that; I keep it around on my work system for running Outlook and the occasional bit of win32 client testing, and it does that just fine.
[03:42] <benjamin_> Sorry.  Can someone help me set up my Ubuntu Server to support a website?
[03:42] <MoTec> well, it's _supposed_ to put the stuff where it belongs.. YMMV :)
[03:42] <nDuff> benjamin_, so -- just a simple Apache installation?
[03:43] <nDuff> benjamin_, or something fancier?
[03:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> How do I list files from the command line in Ubuntu?
[03:43] <lstarnes> vVvHACKERvVv: ls
[03:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> ::snicker::
[03:43] <MoTec> vVvHACKERvVv: ls -l --color if you wanna be cool :)
[03:43] <sonoblaise> vVvHACKERvVv: ls -l for the list mode
[03:43] <alotbter> Dillizar, just upload it to utube
[03:43] <sonoblaise> :p
[03:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> ...I get such a kick out of this
[03:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> LoL
[03:43] <seam0nster1> i wonder why terminal told me "python install_rt73_drivers.py" file not found..
[03:43] <freazer> do you guys honestly think vVvHACKERvVv didn't know that?
[03:43] <vVvHACKERvVv> rofl
[03:43] <alotbter> i cant find it on my harddrive
[03:43] <benjamin_> well aparently I just installed mysql. but I don't belive that i have gotten around to Apache
[03:43] <freazer> after he's been spamming this channel all day
[03:43] <sonoblaise> vVvHACKERvVv: first console experience ?
[03:44] <Dillizar> lol what do you use
[03:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster:  do NOT use that python script
[03:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> it will not work
[03:44] <sonoblaise> we all remember this :p
[03:44] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: wow it's like they don't even read the channel
[03:44] <Kryzler> heh
[03:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> great isnt it
[03:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> lol
[03:44] <GuruDrew> vVvHACKERvVv, how can you use that alias and ask how to ls :|
[03:44] <seam0nster1> i am willing to try anything dood
[03:44] <Dillizar> alotbter, wait 10 sec
[03:44] <Kryzler> my 6 year old brother knows what ls does :P
[03:44] <alotbter> Dillizar, what is the name of the file
[03:44] <vVvHACKERvVv> hahah it never ands
[03:44] <benjamin_> nDuff: this is the tutorial (of sorts) that i've been following http://howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-8.10-p4http://howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-8.10-p4
[03:44] <Kryzler> and my 8 year old sister knows ls
[03:45] <benjamin_> nDuff: this is the tutorial (of sorts) that i've been following http://howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-8.10-p4
[03:45] <Flannel> benjamin_: The howtoforge walkthroughs are generally rubbish when it comes to Ubuntu
[03:45] <GuruDrew> if you're pro you've aliased ll
[03:45] <GuruDrew> Anyone?
[03:45] <vVvHACKERvVv> where do I put "ls"
[03:45] <vVvHACKERvVv> ?
[03:45] <Kryzler> I sat them down and took them through basic terminal commands xD
[03:45] <benjamin_> Flannel:  Well thats good to know
[03:45] <freazer> vVvHACKERvVv: I think all you're doing is testing people's willingness to help - which is a good thing. at least these guys can handle the simple stuff
[03:45] <Kryzler> vVvHACKERvVv shh :P
[03:45] <Kryzler> lol
[03:45] <Chriz212> how do i restore grub from usb?
[03:45] <freazer> I can tell you where to shove that "ls" ...
[03:45] <nDuff> benjamin_, OK -- where are you having trouble with it?
[03:45] <vVvHACKERvVv> my eyes are watering
[03:45] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[03:45] <Flannel> !offtopic
[03:45] <Dillizar> alotbter, http://rapidshare.com/files/195803318/out.ogg.html
[03:45] <Dillizar> :D
[03:46] <Dillizar> its not a porn but it looks good
[03:46] <Dillizar> :D
[03:46] <benjamin_> well I'm not sure how to set up the IP address, I believe I need it to be static and then setting up a domain.
[03:46] <alotbter> could downloading an ogg file allow someone to hack my computer?
[03:46] <benjamin_> nDuff:well I'm not sure how to set up the IP address, I believe I need it to be static and then setting up a domain.
[03:46] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: actually what brought me here was the blurr of my desktop video recordings when mposted to youtube
[03:46] <vVvHACKERvVv> i cant get around it
[03:46] <Dillizar> alotbter, lool
[03:46] <vVvHACKERvVv> I even encoded with mencoder and /or user specialized interlacing
[03:46] <Dillizar> alotbter, its a video file
[03:46] <vVvHACKERvVv> still no dice
[03:46] <alotbter> whos lool and what is he doing here
[03:46] <seam0nster1> vVVHACKERvVv: considering the results of iwconfig do you think i should reinstall ubuntu or somthing ?
[03:46] <Dillizar> vVvHACKERvVv,  maybe because its a ogg
[03:47] <nDuff> benjamin_, ...well, depending on what kind of connectivity you have, IP allocation and DNS setup may be out of your hands.
[03:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: its an ogv not an ogg
[03:47] <Dillizar> mine is ogg
[03:47] <MoTec> pfsense handles my ip's for me.. and it makes me happy.
[03:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: no
[03:47] <benjamin_> nDuff: how can i tell you what connectivity I have
[03:47] <administrator> How to "fat"  floppy disk  Into a format "et2"
[03:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> gimme some time I am having fun rught now
[03:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> lol
[03:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> we need your hardware specs seam0nster
[03:47] <benjamin_> nDuff: I'm not running wireless and connected through ethernet.  Does that help?
[03:47] <vVvHACKERvVv> if you do not know you need to find out
[03:47] <Dillizar> alotbter, just take the video and will show you were to find it
[03:48] <sonoblaise> what is the xfree version that comes with ubuntu 8.10?
[03:48] <administrator> How to "fat"  floppy disk  Into a format "et2"
[03:48] <nDuff> benjamin_, the config file controlling your server's local IP address is /etc/network/interfaces, but any static IP you set in there needs to be valid for the network you're on, and not be something the local DHCP server might hand to someone else.
[03:48] <administrator> How to "fat"  floppy disk  Into a format "et2"
[03:48] <Flannel> !enter | vVvHACKERvVv
[03:48] <seam0nster1> how ? what exactly do u need to know ?
[03:48] <alotbter> Dillizar, why cant you just tell me?
[03:48] <Dillizar> vVvHACKERvVv, does recording your desktop makes your pc SLOW??
[03:48] <nDuff> benjamin_, who's your local network administrator?
[03:48] <ryanprior> !repeat | administrator
[03:48] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: no
[03:48] <benjamin_> nDuff:  I don't know.
[03:48] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: use 15 FPS and NTSC methods
[03:48] <Aster0ID> Ok, quick question: On Ubuntu site it says the curent version will be supported untill 2010. then what do I do?
[03:48] <Dillizar> alotbter ah #compiz
[03:48] <nDuff> benjamin_, where do you get your Internet service from?
[03:49] <vVvHACKERvVv> I am running a Vostro 1510 and no issues
[03:49] <nDuff> Aster0ID, upgrade to a newer one :)
[03:49] <austin_> Does anyone know how to fix ATI driver problems? the card was made by asus
[03:49] <vVvHACKERvVv> even the MEDAI panel works with Ubuntu
[03:49] <vVvHACKERvVv> I am extatic
[03:49] <nDuff> Aster0ID, the upgrade process is shiny and clicky and automated.
[03:49] <freazer> administrator: can you try to spell things correctly so that we can properly understand the question? did you mean "format" a floppy into "ext2" ?
[03:49] <Aster0ID> nDuff, Upgrade would mean reinstalling the OS?
[03:49] <vVvHACKERvVv> ATI NO WAY---STAY AWAY
[03:49] <Dillizar> vVvHACKERvVv, where can i find the methods
[03:49] <nDuff> Aster0ID, no, it means clicking a few buttons.
[03:50] <nDuff> Aster0ID, ...and letting the OS reinstall all the components that changed.
[03:50] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: you have to re-encode with DeVeDe
[03:50] <freazer> administrator: are you using Ubuntu? command line or GUI? either way I recommend either parted or gparted but I'm not sure if they work on hotswappable/removable  volumes
[03:50] <Aster0ID> nDuff, what is the version of the ubuntu on default download site? is it KDE ubuntu or Gnome?
[03:50] <nDuff> Aster0ID, default Ubuntu uses GNOME.
[03:50] <Flannel> Aster0ID: Gnome is Ubuntu
[03:50] <administrator> 	I have a floppy disk is formatted fat
[03:50] <Dillizar> vVvHACKERvVv, and when i select a window? desktop ??
[03:50] <vVvHACKERvVv> Gnome is NOT ubnut
[03:51] <ryanprior> Aster0ID: Ubuntu comes with Gnome by default, Kubuntu comes with KDE.
[03:51] <Aster0ID> nDuff, switching to KDE would not be much trouble I would assume?
[03:51] <Kryzler> Gnom != Ubuntu
[03:51] <administrator> 	I would like to format it into ET2
[03:51] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: you can choose window if you want less system resources
[03:51] <Aster0ID> which is "better"
[03:51] <nDuff> Aster0ID, I don't know how much trouble is involved in switching between distribution variants, but I'd be surprised if it were very tricky.
[03:51] <Aster0ID> gnome or kde? for a beginner
[03:51] <MoTec> Aster0ID: join do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to switch from gnome to kde
[03:51] <F4RR4R> Will it break things in ubuntu 8.10 desktop if i rename the directories in my home directory to be more conform? (I.e "Pictures"->"pictures", "Music"->"music")
[03:51]  * Gnea wonders where vVvHACKERvVv's Ubuntu & FreeBSD videos are at...
[03:51] <vVvHACKERvVv> is there a freaking echo in here
[03:51] <ryanprior> !best | Aster0ID
[03:51] <Kryzler> !repeat | administrator
[03:51] <nDuff> Aster0ID, both should work.
[03:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> Gnea, have not upload all of them
[03:52] <vVvHACKERvVv> only have my new account open
[03:52] <Dillizar> Aster0ID, kde is better for begging you have the start menu and bla bla bla
[03:52] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: I suppose it'd help if they existed :)
[03:52] <Kryzler> administrator, clearly no-one knows... you'll have to ask somewhere else
[03:52] <dmphotography> Hey, does anyone happen to know where apache is installed on ubuntu, or even better, what the command to stop it is?
[03:52] <Flannel> dmphotography: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[03:52] <benjamin_> nDuff:  Can I tell you my IP address?
[03:52] <MoTec> /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[03:52] <MoTec> dangit
[03:53] <Aster0ID> Most of you would use Gnome then?
[03:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> if you read why I was originally here, you would have seen my question regarding blurry youtube videos, for someone whom constantly says to RESEARCH befor eyou talk you are awfully ignorant regarding your remarks
[03:53] <MoTec> guis are for the weak :)
[03:53] <Dillizar> Aster0ID,  here is gnome #kubuntu is kde
[03:53] <Aster0ID> I am installing it for my mom :) shes not so good with computers
[03:53] <Kryzler> Aster0ID I use whatever happenes to be my preference at the time
[03:53] <ryanprior> Aster0ID: Most of us here use Gnome, or Gnome and something else.
[03:53] <histo> msg ubottu attitude
[03:53] <ryanprior> Aster0ID: I use Gnome and sometimes Xfce.
[03:53] <vVvHACKERvVv> just an observation of course
[03:53] <Dillizar> Aster0ID,  let me tell you what i did for my mom ok
[03:53] <MoTec> but, when i must, i use xfec4 :)
[03:53] <Dillizar> :D
[03:53] <histo> !attitude | vVvHACKERvVv
[03:53] <nDuff> benjamin_, ...well, you *can*, and I can do a traceback to see who your provider is, but that's not really enough information. Are you plugged into a corporate network, or a home network?
[03:54] <Dillizar> Aster0ID, i installed a ubuntu and made it look just like vista with the menu button
[03:54] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: not everyone spends all of their time paying attention to everything in this channel all of the time.
[03:54] <Aster0ID> Dillizar, how did you do that lol?
[03:54] <Dillizar> Aster0ID,  i can how you how cuz its good for moms and sisters :D and stupid brothers :P
[03:54] <benjamin_> nDuff: home network
[03:54] <Dillizar> well Aster0ID
[03:54] <vVvHACKERvVv> Gnea: we are never going to see eye to eye on anything, lets just not talk to each other
[03:55] <nDuff> benjamin_, that being the case, you can log into your router and configure the IP range used for DHCP (and, thus, which IPs *aren't*)
[03:55] <vVvHACKERvVv> k?
[03:55] <benjamin_> nDuff: Would you mind walking me though?
[03:55] <nDuff> benjamin_, ...so, pick one of the IPs that aren't in the DHCP range, and set it up in /etc/network/interfaces (see the output from "man interfaces" for documentation on that file)
[03:56] <nDuff> benjamin_, I can't help you with your router -- that's well beyond the scope of supporting Ubuntu, and there are too many different models for me to know them all.
[03:56] <benjamin_> nDuff: Can you explain more in depth
[03:56] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: still here
[03:56] <uman_> Hey guys. My mobo recently got fried so i changed mobos, and now my cablemodem (usb) eth2 doesnt work anymore. I plug it into my pc and it doesnt show up. Also, i get an internet icon on my menubar,top right with an error that says SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device. What can i do. Thanks
[03:56] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: please try to follow the guidelines... if ignorance is the way you prefer to go, then that's fine, but then again, you could simply re-state the original problem and leave your attitude parked at the door.. you might get a better response that way.
[03:56] <MoTec> I checked by the door.
[03:57] <ryanprior> uman_: Do any USB devices work?
[03:57] <MoTec> The attitude section is WAY full.
[03:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> Ok you can have the last word...
[03:57] <Gnea> MoTec: didn't you know? we just point it to /dev/null - it's infinite :)
[03:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> anyway
[03:57] <MoTec> hehe
[03:57] <noobsp> ...
[03:57] <uman_> ryanprior, yeah, flash drives work
[03:57] <vVvHACKERvVv> can I ask a question?
[03:58] <Gnea> !ask | vVvHACKERvVv
[03:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> :;snicker::
[03:58] <Dillizar> Aster0ID, you need a vista theme! aero smt dunno download a start button and istall it and put it on the panel and just use emerald to make the buttons really really shiny ! :D and then go instal some icons et voila a vista for mom :D wiht no viruses :D
[03:58] <ryanprior> vVvHACKERvVv: This isn't a shouting contest. Gnea wants to have a civil channel, and we have a legit body of channel guidelines that we expect people to stick to. Right now, you're straying outside and giving us attitude about it.
[03:58] <ryanprior> !guidelines | vVvHACKERvVv
[03:58] <Dillizar> Aster0ID, go to gnome-look.org or smt like that
[03:58] <Aster0ID> Dillizar, cool :)
[03:58] <Dillizar> i am to lazy to change pc and show you
[03:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> I am helping anyone I can, i dnot need you throwing you garbage up everything I say something
[03:58] <Dillizar> :D
[03:58] <vVvHACKERvVv> grow up
[03:58] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: stop.
[03:59] <porkpie> anyone had this before 'error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' ?
[03:59] <try2free> please somebody give some hints. why sudo apt-get update halt on 23% and continue after 2-3minute?
[03:59] <Flannel> Alright, vVvHACKERvVv, Gnea, that's enough out of everyone.  Regardless of who started, or whatever.  That's enough.
[03:59] <norty> Question: I just changed my $PATH variable and i want to be able to use it but i dont want to logout to refresh it, what is another way to refresh it?
[03:59] <chalcedony> try2free: think about resources and ram ..
[04:00] <vigo> Flannel: Thank you
[04:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> Flannel; thats what I attempted to do by stating "We shouldn't talk"
[04:00] <simplemotives_> I'm having major dns/resolv issues with intrepid. It seems to be a commonly reported issue, but I see no clear resolution.
[04:00] <simplemotives_> web requests take 20+ seconds and even timeout.
[04:00] <simplemotives_> IP6 is disabled in ff3 config
[04:00] <uman_> Hey guys. My mobo recently got fried so i changed mobos, and now my cablemodem (usb) eth2 doesnt work anymore. I plug it into my pc and it doesnt show up. Also, i get an internet icon on my menubar,top right with an error that says SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device. What can i do. Thanks
[04:00] <chalcedony> how can i find my largest files ?
[04:00] <nDuff> benjamin_, see my PM.
[04:00] <vVvHACKERvVv> chalcedony: why do you want to do that
[04:00] <Dillizar> Aster0ID, http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[04:00] <danbhfive> chalcedony: Apps > Accs> Disk Usage Analyzer
[04:00] <Dillizar> try this
[04:01] <Dillizar> it will help you understand how to install some things you will need
[04:01] <Aster0ID> Dillizar, thanks!
[04:01] <chalcedony> vVvHACKERvVv: i have a lot to backup, maybe it's something i can do without (hoping)
[04:01] <vVvHACKERvVv> one sec chal
[04:01] <chalcedony> vVvHACKERvVv: ty :)
[04:02] <chalcedony> vVvHACKERvVv: i need commmand line if possible
[04:02] <vVvHACKERvVv> chal: I am talking to someone..gimem a sec
[04:02] <cdeszaq> How can I get my Windows Media Center remote to work in Ubuntu?
[04:02] <ryanprior> chalcedony: There's a built-in GUI tool that makes it very easy to do that.
[04:02] <Dillizar> no cdeszaq
[04:03] <ryanprior> chalcedony: Applications -> Accessories -> Disk Usage Analyzer
[04:03] <cdeszaq> Dillizar: What? I asked how...not if
[04:03] <Dillizar> :D
[04:03] <Dillizar> i dont think you can
[04:03] <tritium> cdeszaq: lirc supports windows MCE remotes just fine
[04:03] <ryanprior> chalcedony: It uses a simple method to find the large files, which you could replicate on the command line with a little scripting. Ask in #bash if you need help with that.
[04:03] <Aster0ID> what's the default user/password on ubuntu install?
[04:04] <Flannel> Aster0ID: Whatever you set it up t be during the install
[04:04] <ryanprior> !root | Aster0ID
[04:04] <centaur5> uman_: I would try removing the eth devices from /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot and see what that does.
[04:04] <benjamin_> tabidachi_:See my pm
[04:04] <Aster0ID> I emant in the Live cd
[04:04] <ryanprior> Aster0ID: Oh, I thought you asked for the default root password. Disregard that. =D
[04:04] <Aster0ID> the download on website is tha live cd too right?
[04:05] <vigo> Who had the SIOCGIFNUM  error?
[04:05] <Flannel> Aster0ID: The user for the livecd is 'ubuntu' and there's no password.  If the liveCD is asking you to login, it's likely a bad burn, or an unofficial Ubuntu spinoff
[04:05] <chalcedony> ryanprior: i'm looking at the gui .. we will see ty :)
[04:05] <centaur5> vigo: uman_
[04:05] <vigo> Thank you
[04:05] <uman_> centaur5, vigo?
[04:06] <swtaarrs> is there a way to drag-and-drop support in file-roller?
[04:06] <vigo> uman_: I found some stuff on that here: http://docsun.cites.uiuc.edu/sun_docs/C/solaris_9/SUNWdev/NETPROTO/p40.html
[04:06] <ryanprior> swtaarrs: We've had that since Hardy Heron. Before that, there's no way to enable it without backporting code.
[04:06] <vigo> Is Solaris, but is still Linux, sorta
[04:07] <Cody> Im getting this error message: input: b43-phy0 as /devices/virtual/input/input11 > firmware: requesting b43/ucode5.fw > b43-phy0 ERROR : Firmware file "b43/ucode5.fw" not found. I couldnt get the correct address it referred me to (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/drivers/b43#devicefirmware) so i got it else where. Can anybody help me place it in the correct location, or possible help me figure out the correct web address?
[04:07] <ryanprior> swtaarrs: In terms of release numbers, it's supported in Ubuntu 8.04+
[04:07] <swtaarrs> ryanprior: I'm running intrepid, and I can't drag files from an open archive into nautilus
[04:07] <ryanprior> swtaarrs: Let me try to be sure I'm right. One moment.
[04:07] <whatev> how come sudo apt-get install xnvc[tab] only shows xvnc4viewer and not xvnc4server?
[04:07] <swtaarrs> ryanprior: does it not work on read-only archives?
[04:08] <ryanprior> swtaarrs: drag+drop works fine for me on Intrepid. I don't have a read-only archive to try -- can you point me to one?
[04:08] <vigo> centaur5: There was also a post on the Ubuntu Forums about that.
[04:09] <swtaarrs> ryanprior: this was one from an email I got, so not this particular one. maybe try chmod -w on one then reopen it?  it was a .zip archive if that matters
[04:09] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok I am back
[04:09] <ryanprior> swtaarrs: I went ahead and made an archive read-only, and I can still drag+drop from it.
[04:09] <seam0nster1> wb
[04:09] <vVvHACKERvVv> still with me
[04:09] <centaur5> vigo: My first assumption was that it's looking for his old MAC addresses and still mapping those to eth* devices but can't find them.
[04:09] <Dillizar> where can i change witch programs to run on boot
[04:09] <ryanprior> swtaarrs: You aren't using a non-standard archive manager, are you? You're using file-roller?
[04:09] <Cody> Can anybody help me with my question^^?
[04:09] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: /etc/init.d
[04:10] <vVvHACKERvVv> cody: shoot
[04:10] <vigo> centaur5: That is what most of the data I looked up said.
[04:10] <swtaarrs> ryanprior: yeah, it's file roller 2.24.1 according the the about box.  I just tried a .zip archive that's not read-only and it still doesn't work
[04:11] <Cody> (11:07:02 PM) Cody: Im getting this error message: input: b43-phy0 as /devices/virtual/input/input11 > firmware: requesting b43/ucode5.fw > b43-phy0 ERROR : Firmware file "b43/ucode5.fw" not found. I couldnt get the correct address it referred me to (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/drivers/b43#devicefirmware) so i got it else where. Can anybody help me place it in the correct location, or possible help me figure out the correct web addre
[04:11] <vVvHACKERvVv> Cody: sorry for now I am working with seam0nster on his wireless issue
[04:11] <try2free> chalcedony: resources same as the other machine. ram?
[04:11] <centaur5> vigo: I've never swapped a motherboard with an Ubuntu installation but always assumed it would go really slick as long as you delete the contents of the 70-persistent-net.rules file. Now I'm curious and will have to try an experiment to see if switching boards with Ubuntu is more slick than XP.  :)
[04:11] <Dillizar> not that vVvHACKERvVv like skype to be run when i log in the ubuntu you know simple stuff
[04:11] <Dillizar> :P
[04:11] <vVvHACKERvVv> general rule is one wireless problem a day for me
[04:11] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[04:11] <try2free> chalcedony: you mean my memory is low?
[04:12] <seam0nster1> sorry cody
[04:12] <Cody> vVvHACKERvVv:  I hear ya. Wish it was the same here.
[04:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> Dillizar: i c
[04:12] <Cody> seam0nster1:  ??
[04:12] <try2free> chalcedony: resources same as the other machine and 3 or 4 days ago it's run smooth
[04:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> Cody: he is what we call a user here
[04:12] <seam0nster1> i used up the 1 turn
[04:12] <vVvHACKERvVv> ya know...like you
[04:13] <seam0nster1> flannel ??
[04:13] <vigo> centaur5: That is what backups are for, it should be smoot and painless with a good backup set and if the harwdware is compliant with the distro you select.
[04:13] <seam0nster1> now who will help me ;_;
[04:13] <vigo> *smooth
[04:13] <ryanprior> !anyone | seam0nster1
[04:13] <Gnea> Cody: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[04:13] <Cody> Gnea:  May i ask why i need to do that?
[04:13] <seam0nster1> -_-
[04:13] <vVvHACKERvVv> how rude
[04:14] <seam0nster1> ohhh wb dood
[04:14] <Dillizar> vVvHACKERvVv, so do you know
[04:14] <vVvHACKERvVv> this is why children should not have boot powers
[04:14] <vVvHACKERvVv> sorry I missed the Q
[04:14] <vVvHACKERvVv> restate
[04:14] <Cody> vVvHACKERvVv: what did you mean hes just a user here?
[04:14] <tritium> vVvHACKERvVv: enough, or it'll be a ban, and not a kick
[04:14] <vVvHACKERvVv> go ahead, you will be hurting the users
[04:14] <Gnea> Cody: because it's not installed by default
[04:15] <vVvHACKERvVv> I have helped countless people here
[04:15] <Cody> How would i install that on my other machine without an internet connection?
[04:15] <seam0nster1> jesus christ, he is helping more people than anyone else, you should +o him not ban him -_-
[04:15] <Cody> vVvHACKERvVv:  What are you doinf wrong?
[04:15] <tritium> vVvHACKERvVv: I've been in this channel for years, and have never seen you before today.
[04:15] <vVvHACKERvVv> tritium: correction you have never seen this nick before
[04:15] <|syockit|> Cody: attitude problem
[04:15] <tritium> vVvHACKERvVv: please just abide by the code of conduct, and you'll be fine
[04:16] <Cody> Oh okay
[04:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> tritum: people want me here becuase I help
[04:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> just get off your high horse
[04:16] <Cody> Gnea:  How do i install that without an internet connection?
[04:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> and let me do my job
[04:16] <vVvHACKERvVv> then everything will be fine
[04:16] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: We do ask that people get off of their horse at the door.
[04:16] <tritium> vVvHACKERvVv: calm yourself down.
[04:16] <Cody> You singled me out vVvHACKERvVv :P
[04:16] <Gnea> Cody: do you have a USB thumbdrive?
[04:17] <Cody> Yes and some blank cds.
[04:17] <vVvHACKERvVv> I don't even know how I got here, I was having a good time
[04:17] <Aster0ID> S.O.S - I tried to run live cd and monitor says "Video Mode Not Supported"
[04:17] <whatev> how come sudo apt-get install xvnc[tab] only shows xvnc4viewer and not xvnc4server?
[04:17] <vVvHACKERvVv> Cody: what do you mean singled you out?
[04:17] <Gnea> Cody: try copying it to the USB drive and then run this on the ubuntu-side:  sudo dpkg -l file.deb  (where file.deb is the linux-firemware-BLAH.deb
[04:17] <Cody> Only 1 wireless problem a day :P
[04:17] <seam0nster1> some people are strange vVvHACKERvVv, don't worry about it
[04:17] <n8tuser> whatev -> take a look at x11vnc  you may like it better
[04:17] <centaur5> vigo: Well the main reason XP crashes is when there are new boards and I was hoping since Ubuntu just detects hardware and loads modules that if I install an Ubuntu machine and have to replace the board that I wouldn't have to reformat. I buy good boards though so I've never had to do it but now I'm curious. Although copying the home and pasting it into a new installation is quite effortless!  I love Ubuntu!
[04:17] <Gnea> Cody: sorry, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[04:18] <seam0nster1> they like to enforce silly rules etc
[04:18] <whatev> n8tuser can i connect to x11vnc from tightvnc on windows?
[04:18] <Aster0ID> Anyone?
[04:18] <n8tuser> whatev -> absolutely
[04:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: its a question of power. nothing more nothing less. Its not the rules they are enforcing, its the extension of supremicy
[04:18] <tritium> seam0nster1: the channel's rules serve a purpose.  Please stay on topic.
[04:18] <Cody> Gnea:  Where do i download this? Like the exact package from an internet based command of sudo apt-get install linux-firmware ?
[04:18] <seam0nster1> true
[04:18] <CyBurnett> I installed Ubuntu 8.04 and setup user and root accounts with passwords. now i need to edit the settings for my network but it will not accept the password? Your thoughts please :)
[04:18] <ryanprior> Aster0ID: Sounds like it's detecting the monitor wrong. Are on an aged CRT, maybe?
[04:18] <vVvHACKERvVv> tritum: the rules are placed there to help the users
[04:18] <Flannel> vVvHACKERvVv: Please come to #ubuntu-ops so we can discuss this without creating so much noise.
[04:18] <jp_sf> Aster0ID: what is your question ?
[04:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> on my way
[04:19] <chalcedony> Disk Usage Analyzer:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/115864/
[04:19] <|syockit|> Cody: get them on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <vigo> cenataur5: Ibex is really good at new hardware, Heron ,'with updates' is also, still the backup rule is always in effect,
[04:19] <Aster0ID> I am using a 17 inch LCD monitor (Hyunday) and it says "Video mode not supported" when I try to use Live cd or install disc
[04:19] <Gnea> vVvHACKERvVv: everyone that /join's #ubuntu is a user.
[04:19] <Cody> |syockit|:  Thank you.
[04:19] <Aster0ID> it was fine when it was loading and language selection too, but then I got that message
[04:20] <Aster0ID> ryanprior, jp_sf ^^^
[04:20] <ryanprior> Aster0ID: If you can figure out how, try booting into VESA mode. I don't remember how to do it off the top of my head, but try Google.
[04:21] <CyBurnett> Aster0ID, at the screen that says "install Ubuntu without any change to your computer" etc, hit F4 key and select "safe graphics mode"
[04:21] <Gnea> !packages | Cody
[04:21] <Gnea> Cody: check that website ^^^
[04:22] <Aster0ID> CyBurnett, I dotn get to that point
[04:22] <CyBurnett> Aster0ID, you mean you dont get to the screen immediately following the language selection window?
[04:23] <Aster0ID> CyBurnett, yes, after language there is nothing
[04:23] <Aster0ID> or there was some loading bar... or was that before
[04:23] <Aster0ID> I get "Video mode not supported" monitor message
[04:23] <Cody> So linux-firmware doesn't come with ubuntu?
[04:23] <Cody> Ubuntu 8.10 intrepid?
[04:24] <CyBurnett> Aster0ID, Sorry, I'm a newby to linux but i had the same problem as you and I got around it with the steps I mentioned :0
[04:24] <n8tuser> Aster0ID -> try also the option vga=791
[04:24] <tritium> Cody: yes
[04:24] <|syockit|> Cody: it should if it's detected the hardware during install
[04:24] <Aster0ID> n8tuser, how do I do that?
[04:24] <|syockit|> tritium: it wasn't?
[04:25] <rsd> soft sound on macpro...  anyone figured out how to make sound not really soft from headphones?   I've put the various mixers up to max, and on other ubuntu machines the sound works fine...  it's just really soft on this mac pro.
[04:25] <tritium> |syockit|: no, you're correct
[04:25] <tritium> It should be installed.
[04:25] <n8tuser> Aster0ID -> i think when you press F6  and there is a long line of text.. insert it before the word quiet, and actually erase quiet to see the status while it is booting
[04:25] <CyBurnett> I installed Ubuntu 8.04 and setup user and root accounts with passwords. now i need to edit the settings for my network but it will not accept the password? Your thoughts please :)
[04:25] <Artelus> :D
[04:25] <vVvHACKERvVv> ok i am back
[04:25] <Artelus> I just got ubuntu!!! YAYYYY
[04:26] <illume> CyBurnett: sudo su
[04:26] <tritium> Cody: sudo -i
[04:26] <chalcedony> wb
[04:26] <chalcedony> vVvHACKERvVv:  Disk Usage Analyzer:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/115864/
[04:26] <sonoblaise> I installed the latest ATI proprietary drivers from their website.  How do I remove a package installed without synaptic?  it had a graphic installer... I want to put the open drivers back, fglrx is killing me!
[04:27] <danbhfive> chalcedony: are you using something non-gui?  what are you using?
[04:27] <Gnea> Cody: is intrepid what you're running?
[04:27] <CyBurnett> illume, Thanks but that opens my user folder :) I need to edit my network settings.
[04:27] <seam0nster1> hay vVvHACKERvVv
[04:27] <illume> CyBurnett: with the gui tool?  you should be able to type in your users password.
[04:28] <illume> CyBurnett: not the root one
[04:28] <billybigrigger> how can i boot to command line?
[04:28] <vVvHACKERvVv> yea I am here
[04:28] <vVvHACKERvVv> what a joke
[04:28] <|syockit|> sonoblaise: website does not give uninstall instruction?
[04:28] <vVvHACKERvVv> anyway lets get back to helping
[04:28] <Nom-> Is the -virtual kernel from JeOS avaialable for a server install?
[04:29] <seam0nster1> :)
[04:29] <CyBurnett> illume, It doesnt seem to matter what I type it doesnt let me in :(
[04:29] <sonoblaise> |syockit|: I searched but found nothing
[04:29] <Artelus> Hey guys
[04:29] <vVvHACKERvVv> socialism at its best
[04:29] <vVvHACKERvVv> lol
[04:29] <Artelus> how do you install Java on Ubuntu?
[04:29] <billybigrigger> i just installed a fresh copy of intrepid x86 and after install on first boot, i enter login/password, and it hangs on loading gnome, i can move my mouse but thats it...nothing...
[04:29] <sonoblaise> atiis ceahp on the documentation for their linux drivers
[04:29] <seam0nster1> do u need my specs b4 we can continue ?
[04:29] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: on booting, during grub, press esc to bring up kernel selection, select single-user boot
[04:29] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster yes
[04:29] <vVvHACKERvVv> system, window manager ect..
[04:29] <Artelus> How do you install JRE?
[04:29] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: then you have selection of what to do
[04:29] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: thanks
[04:30] <alotbter> is there a way when you invert the screen colors to not invert pictures and videos?
[04:30] <CyBurnett> illume, I have one password for user and seperate for root, neither work. passwords work for everything else though??
[04:30] <|syockit|> Artelus: would that be Sun's, or OpenJDK?
[04:30] <seam0nster1> well i will look out for you tomorrow, i have work in a few hours -_-
[04:30] <chalcedony> danbhfive i typed it from the GUI
[04:30] <Artelus> Um...which one is better? :D
[04:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> yea me too 8am
[04:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> back to software devel
[04:30] <vVvHACKERvVv> haha
[04:30] <tritium> !enter | vVvHACKERvVv
[04:30] <hanzpasco>  Hola estoy tratando de ejecutar un juego .Jar usando como base este manual pero ala hora de poner java -jar no pasa nada aca la pagina (http://andalinux.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/ejecutar-aplicaciones-jar-en-ubuntu-linux/)
[04:30] <tritium> hanzpasco: /join #ubuntu-es, please
[04:30] <seam0nster1> lol that guy loves you
[04:31] <vVvHACKERvVv> I tell ya seam0nster
[04:31] <vVvHACKERvVv> you see this all the time
[04:31] <alotbter> !ru | hanzpasco
[04:31] <|syockit|> Artelus: if you don't have anything against propietary, sun is better. apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:31] <seam0nster1> i have seen it many times in other places
[04:32] <vVvHACKERvVv> seam0nster: ruins the chats doesn't it..?
[04:32] <|syockit|> Artelus: if you need the plugin, don't forget sun-java6-plugin
[04:32] <seam0nster1> indeed
[04:32] <vVvHACKERvVv> staright from the user
[04:32] <Xaero> I have I question regarding bash scripting, say I wanted to parse a text file for urls that point to a certain domain name, I know the first step would be to grep for all lines containing the domain name in question, that match the pattern of a URL, but what would I do to get rid of the rest of said lines?
[04:32] <tritium> vVvHACKERvVv, seam0nster1: one last warning to stay on topic
[04:32] <Artelus> So how do I install Sun jafva?
[04:32] <Artelus> Java*
[04:32] <vVvHACKERvVv> LoL
[04:32] <vVvHACKERvVv> see
[04:32] <seam0nster1> -_-
[04:32] <vVvHACKERvVv> he's itching
[04:32] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: ok, i tried booting the recovery kernel image, and everything was fine, got to the recovery menu, and selected to fix x session, and then tried failsafe gnome and its still hanging after login
[04:32] <seam0nster1> i just hope you're not a cop irl tritium
[04:32] <seam0nster1> that would be scary
[04:33] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: what's the rig? what are you trying to recover?
[04:33] <can-o-worms> Does anyone know of a script or something to run so i can run bittorrent during off-peak times
[04:33] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: just trying to boot
[04:33] <chalcedony> danbhfive can anyone answer the question about the number of items . what's an item?
[04:34] <chalcedony> i was actually looking for which is the largest files
[04:34] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: i just did a fresh install on my desktop...install went fine, and couldnt even login to my first gnome session
[04:34] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: could be the compiz thing hanging up. login screen came up?
[04:35] <alotbter> is there a way when you invert the screen colors to not invert pictures and videos?
[04:35] <danbhfive> chalcedony: I don't know what you are doing.  The app is graphical.  Can;t you see what the largest files are?
[04:35] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: yeah gdm came up fine, entered user and password and it hangs, so then i tried failsafe gnome and it still wont work...stuck with a moving mouse thats it
[04:36] <Xaero> How would I go about parsing a text file and returning JUST urls?
[04:36] <chalcedony> danbhfive: it's showing directories which is nice.. ill have to do it again for files, i guess
[04:36] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: tried ctrl-alt-bkspace to restart gnome and nothing, ctrl-alt-del...nothing
[04:37] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: next time, at login screen, try killing compiz.
[04:37] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: use tty
[04:37] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: k, how do i kill compiz at login?
[04:37] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: oh, alt-f2 login, then killall compiz?
[04:38] <vVHACKERvV> DUMB ass I have thousands of IPs
[04:38] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: no, do not login
[04:38] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: ah, yu mean tty
[04:38] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: i have to login after alt-f2 to bring up a term right?
[04:38] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: yes. then sudo killall compiz.real
[04:39] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: haha alt f2 f3 f4 does nothing
[04:39] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: what about ctrl-alt-f1?
[04:39] <porkpie> guy's will this install the 32bit server debootstrap --arch i386 dapper
[04:39] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: nothing, and i know keyboard works cause i can type in the username box
[04:39] <ryanprior> billybigrigger: alt+f2 should bring up a little "Run" dialog in the top-left corner.
[04:39] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: if i'm not mistaken, you use ctrl-alt-<number> to change to tty
[04:40] <uman_> Hey guys i need help desperately. My mobo fried so i changed motherboards and am not using my nvidia gfx card anymore so i am using onboard video from ati. When i installed the ati drivers and the nvida ones were uninstalled my motorola usb cable modem stopped working. I mean, its as if it were not plugged in. How can i fix this.. what usb drivers can i install or go back to another kernel? Thanks
[04:40] <ryanprior> billybigrigger: ctrl+alt+f2 should take you to a plain-text TTY interface.
[04:40] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: sorry, ctrl-alt-f<number>
[04:40] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: ctrl-alt-f1 f2 f3 nothing ctrl-alt-1-2-3 nothing
[04:40] <F4RR4R> How can I rename my {Desktop|Music|Pictures|Public|Template|Video} directories to their lowercase, linux consistant equivalent names w/o breaking my system?
[04:40] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: is that on fresh reboot?
[04:40] <billybigrigger> yes
[04:40] <ryanprior> uman_: No need to tell us about desperation - we only have so much capacity to help. Is the modem listed by lsusb?
[04:41] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: also, the kernel recovery mode is supposed to have "start shell" or something in the menu
[04:41] <h4ck3r> uh O I am back asshole
[04:41] <sleepyowl> Hey guys, I have a quick command line problem/question that been struggling with for the past few hours.
[04:41] <uman_> ryanprior, no its not
[04:41] <h4ck3r> YOU CANT BAN ME DUMBASS GET OVER IT
[04:41] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: yes a root shell i think, ill try that, hold on rebooting now
[04:41]  * you like to touch yourself
[04:42] <sleepyowl> Why does this command work the first time, but fails the second time: http://pastie.org/383690
[04:42] <tritium> Dwight_Schrute: please stop that
[04:42] <Dwight_Schrute> tritium, yes sir
[04:42] <gray> i have a question
[04:42] <ryanprior> Ask away, gray.
[04:42] <n8tuser> sled -> what is the command?
[04:42] <sleepyowl> If the doesn't exist, it should create it and if it does exist, it shouldn't attempt to create it
[04:42] <gray> i need to connect two computers via crossover cable
[04:42] <gray> just for file transfer
[04:43] <gray> i have two separate computers
[04:43] <Dwight_Schrute> !ask | gray
[04:43] <unop> sleepyowl, you're testing for the existence of /mnt/app/currentconfig/database.yml  rather than  /mnt/app/current/config/database.yml
[04:43] <unop> ?
[04:43] <gray> thanks, dwight?
[04:43] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: ok, im root, try killall compiz and startx? i know i shouldnt start an x session as root but i just want to see if it works
[04:44] <gray> how to i configure this?
[04:44] <gray> is it graphical?
[04:44] <gray> or command line?
[04:44] <ryanprior> gray: It's your lucky day! I just figured out how to do this a couple days ago, it's fresh in my brain.
[04:44] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: yes, but earlier I thought you just wanted a root session. if x doesn't start, compiz won't
[04:44] <Dwight_Schrute> gray, ask your question all on one line, and if anyone knows the answer they will most surely help you
[04:44] <gray> ryanprior, thank you!
[04:44] <sleepyowl> unop: ah! need to stop late night programming but its so addicting! thanks!
[04:44] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: so exit shell, should get to menu. start x as usual, then when gdm comes, ctrl-alt-f1
[04:45] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: k, nothing again
[04:45] <dmphotography> Hey, what's the commnand to copy the contents of a folder and it's subfolders to another location?
[04:45] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: details?
[04:45] <Odd-rationale> dmphotography: cp -r ?
[04:46] <gray> cp
[04:46] <Odd-rationale> dmphotography: see "man cp" for more details.
[04:46] <dmphotography> cp didn't copy the subfolders.
[04:46] <dmphotography> Ahhh.
[04:46] <gray> ryanprior i'm so lost
[04:46] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: no details, i just cant get a tty
[04:46] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: ctrl-alt-f1 f2 f3 f4 nothing
[04:46] <Scunizi> dmphotography: cp -R
[04:46] <dmphotography> Yeah, I think my syntax is wrong.
[04:46] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: gdm comes out, textbox working, but c-a-f1 doesn't work. Correct?
[04:46] <dmphotography> I'm in the folder I want to copy and I was using *.*
[04:47] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: yes
[04:47] <Flannel> billybigrigger: try `sudo chvt 1`
[04:47] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: also since first boot i noticed no usplash, if that has anything to do with this
[04:47] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: cripes, somehow putty fails on boot
[04:47] <ryanprior> gray: Plug in the crossover cable to both computers, then run one of these commands on each one: `ifconfig eth0 1.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up` and on the other, `ifconfig eth0 1.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up` -- (in both cases, don't actually type the `` s) Then, on the first machine go to Places -> Connect to Server, select SSH, and for the address type in 1.1.1.2 -- and bam, you're...
[04:47] <ryanprior> ...connected.
[04:47] <Xaero> Anybody know how I would parse a text file to return ONLY urls?
[04:47] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: s
[04:47] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: that's strange too
[04:47] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: how about failsafe terminal and then startx from there?
[04:47] <dmphotography> What do I use instead of *.*?
[04:48] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: hmm maybe you can?
[04:48] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: still won't solve gdm's failure after login tho
[04:48] <WebcamWonder> Xaero: Regular Expressions. Look at grep
[04:48] <billybigrigger> hrmm
[04:48] <dmphotography> NM, I figured it out.
[04:48] <unop> dmphotography, just *
[04:48] <Xaero> WebcamWonder: can grep reduce it to just urls even if there is other text in the line?
[04:48] <dmphotography> Yeah.
[04:48] <dmphotography> It dawned on me.
[04:48] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: $ startx               X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[04:48] <dmphotography> Thanks guys.
[04:48] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: probably why gnome wont start haha
[04:49] <WebcamWonder> Xaero: You should be able to use sed to do that
[04:49] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: usplash doesn't come on kernel recovery, but should appear on normal boot
[04:49] <Xaero> WebcamWonder: Thanks, thats the one I couldn't remember XD
[04:49] <gray> i'm using xubuntu
[04:49] <gray> ryanprior: i don't see a connect to server
[04:49] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: i dont think it comes on normal boot either
[04:49] <ryanprior> gray: Ah, in that case you'll need to find a different way to do the last step.
[04:50] <ryanprior> gray: I'm not familiar enough with xubuntu's GUI.
[04:50] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: no, if gdm came out, means user has authorization. gdm managed to start X
[04:50] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: sudo startx
[04:50] <gray> thanks ryanprior
[04:50] <ryanprior> |syockit|: Start x as root?
[04:51] <ryanprior> gray: No problem, good luck.
[04:51] <|syockit|> ryanprior: yup. dunno why
[04:51] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: server is already active for display 0
[04:51] <joljam> I need help formatting a usb drive and then creating a ubuntu bootable disk out of it
[04:51] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: ah, I forgot that you restarted with x on
[04:52] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: now, you're on normal boot, right?
[04:52] <john_> how do you recover ubuntu initramfs
[04:52] <mjc> joljam: many machines cannot boot USB, fair warning
[04:52] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: still in my failsafe xterm
[04:52] <billybigrigger> thats why its in use
[04:52] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: oh, failsafe x works
[04:52] <billybigrigger> yes
[04:52] <Aster0ID> crap I cant view live cd, when things finish loading the "VIDEO mode not supportd message comes out on scren
[04:52] <billybigrigger> no
[04:52] <billybigrigger> no
[04:52] <billybigrigger> no
[04:52] <FloodBot1> billybigrigger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: maybe need to remove compiz from startup
[04:53] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: failsafe gnome doesnt start, failsafe terminal (xterm) works though
[04:53] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: better yet, remove compiz and see if it can login with it
[04:53] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: sudo apt-get install -compiz
[04:53] <billybigrigger> ???
[04:53] <joljam> mjc: I have been able to boot from usb before...but then I had to use that usb for another purpose..
[04:53] <Aster0ID> when i try t reconfigure xserver, it wont get past the keyboard
[04:53] <john_> how can you recover ubuntu when it is booting only to (initramfs), can anyone help please please please
[04:53] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: sudo aptitude remove compiz*
[04:54] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: actually there's an easier way to disable, but since I'm not on plain Ubuntu, I don't know the details
[04:54] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: it involves editing /etc/X11 stuff
[04:54] <mjc> joljam: OK, just wanted to clarify that for you.  one sec I think I have a howto
[04:54] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: couldnt find any package whose name or description matched "compiz"
[04:55] <mjc> joljam: I know there is a windows tool for doing this also haha
[04:55] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: im running onboard intel gfx, maybe i should reconfig xserver?
[04:55] <seam0nster1> thnks
[04:56] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: but xterm runs?
[04:56] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: yes xterm runs, also i just did $ locate compiz and its installed
[04:56] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: so is there a better way of removing compiz? maybe without the *
[04:56] <john_> how can you recover ubuntu when it is booting only to (initramfs), can anyone help please please please
[04:56] <seam0nster1> right work in 4 hours g2g
[04:56] <seam0nster1> peace
[04:57] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: if you insist, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:57] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: i still think compiz is the culprit
[04:57] <mjc> joljam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:57] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: well maybe i should just try to uninstall compiz like you said?
[04:57] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: but is there another way? the command you gave me couldnt find compiz* should i try without the *?
[04:57] <ryanprior> john_: The help you get has no correlation to the number of "pleases" you use. :-)   The answer to your question isn't straightforward; did you have a previously working system, and now it won't boot right?
[04:57] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: ok try
[04:58] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: ok, its removing the package compiz
[04:58] <illume> How do I report a bug for 'sound too soft on mac pro' ?
[04:58] <illume> I'm not really sure which package is at fault
[04:58] <Symbiot> is running SMTP the same as running sendmail?
[04:58] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: should i restart gdm and try it or do a fresh reboot?
[04:58] <ryanprior> illume: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[04:58] <|syockit|> illume: have you tried maxing out the volume through pulseaudio manager?
[04:58] <mjc> illume: works fine for me.... check your sound settings and make sure to enable the extra ones in the panel
[04:59] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: restart gdm should be good enough
[04:59] <illume> yeah, I've tried maxing out the volume
[04:59] <john_> yes it was working fine ryanprior
[04:59] <Yossarian> hey peeps
[04:59] <wolter> hi, my login sound sounds aweful. like if someone mixed it up
[04:59] <illume> I've got sound working on other ubuntu machines... I think it is specific to this mac pro.
[04:59] <ryanprior> john_: What did you do that changed its behaviour?
[04:59] <wolter> is anybody else getting this problem?
[04:59] <illume> ryanprior: thanks for the bug link
[04:59] <unop> Symbiot, sendmail (the daemon) is an SMTP server -- but some MTAs like exim have a program called sendmail that is not an SMTP server, so - yes and no
[05:00] <mjc> illume: turn on the external amplifier in volume preferences and then untick it in options
[05:00] <ryanprior> illume: The Ubuntu bugsquad helps people triage bugs, so it's a good idea to get your report in there and add more information as you find it.
[05:00] <john_> I was trying to get a 200gig hd drive working, and I was restarting it alot to test the jumpers
[05:00] <john_> ryanprior,
[05:00] <illume> mjc: thanks I'll give it a go
[05:00] <Yossarian> my d-link router died, i think. i plug it in and on my windows machine, i get a 'limited connection' and on ubuntu it won't even connect. the router is supposed to be 192.168.0.1 but i can't access it, doesn't respond to ping either. what can i do?
[05:00] <mjc> illume: by default sound is set to "external amplifier" to make sure that it is not loud enough for those who have an amp to blow their ears ;)
[05:01] <ryanprior> john_: Is that an internal hard drive or an external one? Is it the hard drive that the root FS partition is installed on, or that /boot is installed on?
[05:01] <illume> ah ok
[05:01] <illume> mjc: I can't find that link...
[05:01] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: well i did a reboot anyway, and theres no usplash, wondering if that has something to do with onboard intel gfx?
[05:01] <|syockit|> illume: also through alsa tools?
[05:01] <anima_> Could someone help me with my bluetooth config, please?
[05:01] <mjc> illume: it's prefs -> sound -> preferences button -> external amp
[05:01] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: its kinda gay not seeing the boot process though, just a black screen
[05:01] <illume> system->preferences->sound
[05:02] <Fezzler> Don't know why, but 8.10 runs MUCH faster than 8.04 on my old, old AMD PC.  Why?
[05:02] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: probably. you have to check xorg's log
[05:02] <dmphotography> What is a good firewall for Linux?
[05:02] <whatev> what's the linux equiv of netstat -b?
[05:02] <unop> Yossarian, some routers have a reset mechanism (usually a switch or pin-hole at the back) - you could try that
[05:02] <mjc> Fezzler: quite a bit of optimizations in the kernel, at the very least; 2.6.28 should help low memory boxes as well
[05:02] <unop> whatev, what does netstat -b  do?
[05:02] <illume> mjc: doesn't seem to be that preferences button
[05:02] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: nothing again
[05:03] <whatev> unop in windows it shows the name of the program running on the port, ie apache instead of just 80
[05:03] <Yossarian> unop: tried, no avail
[05:03] <Aster0ID> how do I configure xserver in live cd?
[05:03] <john_> ryanprior,  my ubuntu is on a sata 500gig drive and I was playing around with a 200gig that failed sometime back, and after not getting it to work I went to try to go back to ubuntu and allI can get now is this (initramfs)
[05:03] <Yossarian> i think i need something a bit more hard-core :)
[05:03] <Fezzler> mjc: Seems like my wireless connection is more reliable too.  The upgrade from within 8.04 was stunning!
[05:03] <illume> system->preferences->sound   brings up a dialog "Sound preferences"  with Devices and Sounds tabs
[05:03] <Yossarian> is therre any way to track down its IP from the mac address?
[05:03] <durt> dmphotography: all depends what you want to do.
[05:03] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: live cd worked?
[05:03] <anima_> Could someone help me with my bluetooth config, please?
[05:03] <dmphotography> Run an Apache server, protect myself against attacks.
[05:04] <unop> whatev,  from the netstat(1) manpage - -p, --program  Show the PID and name of the program to which each socket belongs.
[05:04] <ryanprior> john_: Is the 200G drive still in the box?
[05:04] <mjc> Fezzler: a lot of wireless changes between earlier 2.6s and 2.6.27; there are even more coming in 2.6.29
[05:04] <mjc> Fezzler: what card, if I may ask
[05:04] <durt> dmphotography: try arno's-iptables-firewall script
[05:04] <whatev> unop thanks
[05:04] <john_> no it is out and the only drives I have in now are the 500gig for ubuntu and an 80 gig for Windows
[05:04] <Fezzler> mjc: What wireless card?
[05:04] <mjc> Fezzler: yes
[05:05] <dmphotography> Alright, thanks.
[05:05] <john_> ryanprior, ^^^
[05:05] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: well the gui installer worked
[05:05] <ryanprior> john_: Can you boot into Windows? Also, quit it with the double-posting. Just put my name before the response.
[05:05] <ryanprior> !anyone | anima_
[05:05] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: i downloaded the desktop.iso and chose to install ubuntu right away, booted into what looked like a gnome session and installer ran fine
[05:06] <john_> ryanprior,  ok I will quit with double post
[05:06] <illume> mjc: sorry to bother... but I can't find the external amp option anywhere...   system->preferences->sound doesn't have a preferences button for me
[05:06] <john_> let me try to boot windows
[05:06] <illume> I'll search the interweb some more... :)
[05:06] <Fezzler> mjc: From Goodwill.  D-Link Air Plus
[05:07] <Sarthor> Hi, I am using this link for helping to use 2 gateways for my linux router, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IProuteRoundRobbin the 2nd gateway is not working, some sites opening and some not, I am here for help
[05:07] <mjc> Fezzler: USB, or PCI? if pci, what is the line for it output by lspci
[05:07] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: okay. this time, let's sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:07] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: and edit xorg.conf to use vesa
[05:07] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: find out more about your intel onboard
[05:07] <anima_> ubottu:  ok, I'll rephrase.  Basically I'm an idiot.  My pc was paired with my phone in order to exchange my contact list before I installed ubuntu.  Now it's not.  I've tried the system/control center/bluetooth thing with my phone in discovery mode but my pc doesn't see it.  What am I doing wrong, and how do I fix it?  Thank you in advance.
[05:07] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: sounds good
[05:08] <john_> ryanprior,  it seems to be booting in to Windows
[05:08] <anima_> My phone doesn't see my pc, either, btw.  And yes the wireless switch is on.
[05:09] <Aster0ID> How do I add the line for a resolution I want X to use?
[05:09] <Aster0ID> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:09] <Aster0ID> I get "video not supported" when I try to run live cd
[05:09] <ryanprior> john_: If it boots into Windows fine, then it's either a problem with the 500G hard drive, or it's a problem with the software thereon. In the first case, you get to buy new hardware and reinstall; in the second case, you should boot into the LiveCD and use that to recover as well as you can, or failing that update your backups and reinstall.
[05:10] <deagle> how can i make the side scroll mouse button not be backwards?
[05:10] <deagle> if i tilt it to the left, it scrolls to the right
[05:10] <Yossarian> bump: any way i can get a router's IP from knowing only the mac?
[05:10] <deagle> Yossarian: do an IP scan and look for matchin MAC
[05:10] <deagle> *matching
[05:10] <ryanprior> anima_: Have you used the Bluetooth configuration applet (System -> Preferences -> Bluetooth) to configure your computer yet?
[05:11] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: hrmm..i just did a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and it seems theres some updates for xserver-xorg-video-intel gonna try that and see what happens before i mess around with my x config
[05:11] <john_> ryanprior,  ok I  have found a post as well I am going to try a few things there before I buy another drive
[05:11] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: okay
[05:12] <john_> ryanprior, but I have been wanting a 1tb
[05:12] <ryanprior> john_: It's likely that you'll be able to recover most or all your data from the disk, if it's booting as far as initramfs.
[05:12] <brandon_> is there a better theme manager than emerald?
[05:12] <anima_> I tried, but it's not sticking - i.e. the name doesn't stay.  Hold on I'll try again.
[05:12] <Yossarian> deagle: how do you mean? do an ip scan for what? all i know is the router's physical address
[05:12] <ryanprior> brandon_: Pretty much any. Emerald is officially dead now - it's been dropped by the Compiz team.
[05:13] <anima_> yeah no that doesn't work because the settings don't stay put.
[05:13] <Yossarian> and i can't even connect to it, it won't give an ip address. i can connect wit ubuntu only if i specify a static ip
[05:13] <ryanprior> brandon_: The new hotness is Jasper I believe, but I don't think it is ready for prime time yet. I suggest using Metacity with compositing enabled, personally.
[05:13] <john_> ryanprior, I was not able to boot the live cd either I tried that before I grab my laptop
[05:13] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: don't worry this wont take long, only 225mb of updates to install haha about 3 mins ill report back to ya :P
[05:14] <deagle> Yossarian: as far as I know, there's no such thing as a MAC address to IP address converter
[05:14] <ryanprior> anima_: I don't know how to help you then. I'm not much of a bluetooth debugger. My suggestions are: ask every few hours in this room, search the Ubuntu forums and Google, post on the Ubuntu forums if a few searches with different keywords turn up nothing, and just keep trying stuff out.
[05:14] <ryanprior> john_: Really, can't boot the LiveCD?
[05:14] <deagle> Yossarian: try finding a utility that sends packets to MAC addresses and traceroute the IP from there
[05:14] <anima_> k, thanks.  I hate stumping y'all.
[05:15] <Yossarian> deagle: any idea of an application lke this?
[05:15] <ryanprior> john_: Being able to boot Windows but not the LiveCD is very strange IMO. You should be able to boot from the LiveCD without any hard drives in at all. (I've done it.)
[05:15] <john_> ryanprior,  yes I would not let me boot live cd
[05:15] <Sarthor> Hi, I am using this link for helping to use 2 gateways for my linux router, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IProuteRoundRobbin the 2nd gateway is not working, some sites opening and some not, I am here for help
[05:15] <deagle> Yossarian: sorry :\
[05:16] <brandon_> ryaanyone know how to use metacity or were to find it on ubuntu?
[05:16] <john_> ryanprior, I have as well with out HD's I use XFLD thatway all the time
[05:16] <ryanprior> brandon_: If you disable visual effects in System -> Preferences -> Appearance, that will fall back to Metacity.
[05:17] <ogre> can someone tell me how to cobtrol the brightness of my screen plz?
[05:17] <Yossarian> i'm so glad i moved to ubuntu :)
[05:17] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: is there anyway to disable compiz totally? cause when i removed it it only removed 68k from my hdd it said, so most of the compiz packages are still there, how do i disable it from a cli?
[05:17] <ryanprior> john_: Well, I have no knowledge of how a computer that had previously booted Ubuntu fine could boot Windows from HD but not Ubuntu from the LiveCD, unless the CD drive was bad. So, try with a different CD drive.
[05:17] <kole> insanly random... all of a sudden  both firefox and openoffice arnt working right
[05:18] <kole> firefox has a random java error and then has no backbutton, no way to add favourites etc
[05:18] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: try typing in sudo apt-get remove compiz, then press tab to see list of available packages
[05:18] <kole> and open office says something about not knowing the language and doesn't open at all
[05:18] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: or aptitude search ~icompiz
[05:18] <kole> i tried uninstalling and reinstalling and got nuttin
[05:19] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: better yet, aptitude purge ~icompiz
[05:19] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: how do i remove compiz and all the packages that depend on compiz?
[05:19] <GaryDarko> Hello, lol im getting a little aggravated now because it has been a straight week and i still have no success with trying to enable my nvidia 6600 GT GFX card on ubuntu 8.10... ive tried almost everything and it always ends up with me having to reformat and start with a new fresh version lol. can anyone help me out ? please.
[05:19] <ryanprior> kole: Did you uninstall your language pack perhaps?
[05:19] <RulerOf> question:  I want to uninstall IETd from my ubuntu server, but can't figure out the package name for "apt-get remove"
[05:19] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: aptitude can find all those
[05:19] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: ok ill try that, btw whats the ~i ???
[05:19] <kole> ryanprior,  - I didnt do anything... thats what's confusing me... one second it worked, the next, nothing
[05:19] <RulerOf> at least I think iscsi enterprise target is IETd :P
[05:19] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: it's a flag thing. searches for all installed packages
[05:19] <john_> ryanprior,  your not going to beilive this but after rebooting from windows to Wonderful UBUNTU it started back up thank you for your help, but I dont think either one of us fixed it
[05:20] <ryanprior> GaryDarko: If the restricted drivers manager doesn't do it, then please file a bug and let the software guys work things out.
[05:20] <mjc> Fezzler:  locating a summary of changes post 2.6.27 for you, so you can see what's coming :)
[05:20] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: other flags include: ~U for available upgrades, ~c for remaining config files
[05:20] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: other flags include: ~v for virtual packages
[05:20] <ryanprior> john_: That is a strange tale, but at least it has a happy ending. =D
[05:21] <GaryDarko> ryanprior, lol theres already been bug post on this... many times over and over again, it so far has not done any good for any of those people that are having the exact same issue.. dropping to a shell after enabling a GFX driver.
[05:21] <john_> ryanprior,  I dont get it but I am happy to have it back
[05:21] <G-Blunted> Hey can someone help me with this package problem?  libc, and system-backend-tools won't install correct....they are "half-configured" so dpkg tries to install them every time i install another package, and it fails every time:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/115866/
[05:21] <Fezzler> mjc: I continued to be floored by how well and fast Ubuntu runs on an old AMD Athlon PC with only 628 meg ram
[05:21] <kole> ack
[05:22] <skeebo> Is there a channel for virtual machines that anyone knows of?
[05:22] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: funny how ubuntu installs compiz on a system that can't even run it, should have better video detection than that you think?
[05:22] <kole> ryanprior,  - ok im in synaptic.... which language pack for open office should i have installed?. theres hundreds here
[05:22] <ryanprior> GaryDarko: That sucks. My best suggestion, then, is to go buy an ATI graphics card. Those guys have worked a lot harder on Linux support, they deserve it.
[05:22] <john_> ryanprior,  but I really wanted the 1tb hd
[05:22] <mjc> Fezzler: looks like "access point mode" was added to ath5k in 2.6.29 so you could make your linux box an access point
[05:22] <G-Blunted> Fezzler, "only" 628meg ram?
[05:23] <mjc> maybe earlier than that, 2008-10-31
[05:23] <ryanprior> john_: Buy one, then. I suggest Western Digital.
[05:23] <GaryDarko> ryanprior, lol thats kinda stupid though.. a free OS but oh wait sorry you have to buy a new graphics card while your at it.. ;p
[05:23] <Fezzler> G-Blunted: Well, my Tandy 100 has 32k and that runs fast too!  And I get 20hrs on 4 AA batteries.
[05:23] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: ya I think video detection failed. or maybe intel driver faulty. it would install compiz if it knows intel driver would run
[05:23] <kole> the english language pack is here and installed
[05:23] <mjc> Fezzler: here's a direct link to the changelog on linus' tree, if you're curious you can read the descriptions of some of the changesets http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=history;f=drivers/net/wireless/ath5k;hb=HEAD
[05:24] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: ok, well im looking at xorg after this update to see what video driver its using
[05:24] <Fezzler> mjc: Noob question.  Why would I want my Ubuntu PC to be an "access point"?
[05:24] <ryanprior> GaryDarko: Unfortunately, not everybody's hardware works perfectly yet. A number of graphics cards have issues, a few Broadcom WiFi chips have issues, Creative X-Fi sound cards have issues, many webcams have issues... basically, it's a work in progress and since most manufacturers only support Windows, it leaves us with a lot of work to do. That's why I suggest that you support those...
[05:24] <john_> ryanprior,  I shall but thank you, thank you, thank you again.  I had to say it three time to w/ the please's
[05:24] <ryanprior> ...companies (such as ATI) who are doing their part to help us out.
[05:24] <ryanprior> john_: Hehe. Have a good evening. :-)
[05:24] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: if it's 8.10, probably xorg.conf doesn't exist
[05:24] <mjc> Fezzler: you could use that to do your routing instead of using a buggy router as you mentioned
[05:25] <shavin> in pidgin what does right click menu of a buddy 'presence setting'>'Appear Permanently Offline' mean? Does it mean that I would appear offline to that buddy all the time?
[05:25] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: ??? /etc/X11/xorg.conf??? no longer? wtf
[05:25] <mjc> Fezzler: and put the router in a mode such that it only does wireless <-> wired bridging
[05:25] <Fezzler> mjc: Does that mean instead of connecting directly to the wireless router, devices in the house can connect to the Ubuntu PC?
[05:25] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: it's 8.10 then
[05:25] <GaryDarko> ryanprior, oh yes i do understand that, im just saying when i was on 8.04 it worked flawlessly just on 8.10 it drops to a shell and i have to reformat lol.
[05:25] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: whats 8.10?
[05:25] <mjc> Fezzler: you'd essentially put the broadband connection in your ethernet port on the ubuntu box, and share it to other machines in the house yes :)
[05:25] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: or do you mean in 9.04 it doesnt exist?
[05:25] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: ubuntu intrepid ibex. uses new xserver
[05:26] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: yeah jaunty too
[05:26] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: you can make it through the dpkg-reconfigure thing
[05:26] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: oh, yeah, well where can i find out what video driver xserver is trying to run?
[05:26] <sigma> hey guys, im looking to figure out why openoffice's fonts (in the menu bar and such) don't match with the fonts i choose for my gtk theme.
[05:26] <sigma92> i assume it's because openoffice is a java app, but i dunno how to use that to my advantage.
[05:26] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: look up /var/log/Xorg.0.log . it lists the things Xorg's trying to load
[05:27] <Fezzler> mjc: Cool.  I don't leave the Ubuntu PC on all the time.  Old noisy power supply.  I'm sure it is an energy hog.
[05:27] <cjae> how on earth do you make a full screen game like frets on fire, appear on just one of the screens when using twinview?
[05:27] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: use less for scrollable terminal viewer
[05:28] <mjc> Fezzler: there might be some tools to help you do that but it's probably easier to locate third party firmware for the router first rather than learning how to set up linux routing... also note that a lot of power management improvements have been made recently as someone added a feature to track power consumption for debugging purposes to Linux within the past year or so
[05:28] <kole> ...so no idea on either front?
[05:28] <ryanprior> kole: I have language-pack-en, language-pack-en-base, language-pack-gnome-en, language-pack-gnome-en-base, language-support-en, language-support-writing-en, language-support-translations-en
[05:28] <Fezzler> mjc: one thing I like about modern computer is the noise level is down
[05:28] <mjc> Fezzler: so a lot of developers have been working on drastically reducing power consumption :)
[05:28] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: haha this old p4 is working hard on these updates lol, not used to this haha my dual-core just zings in ubuntu
[05:28] <ryanprior> kole: If any of those are missing, it could lead to some sort of problem, but I'm not an expert on those systems so please do not take my word for it.
[05:28] <mjc> Fezzler: did you build your old system?
[05:28] <G-Blunted> Hey how can i get Synaptic Package Manager logs??  It's giving me errors on a package install and i wanna copy/paste those but it won't let me out of the window...wheres the logs at?
[05:29] <whatev> i use tightvnc in windows, is tightvnc in linux good or is x11vnc better?
[05:29] <mjc> G-Blunted: you could do the same command in a terminal via: sudo apt-get install packagename
[05:29] <Fezzler> mjc: Sort of, I go to Goodwill and scrounge parts.
[05:29] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: so far boot time and what i've seen is not bad for a 2.0ghz p4 with 768mb ram :P
[05:29] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: cmon, p4 is not that weak
[05:29] <G-Blunted> hmm..
[05:29] <mjc> Fezzler: did you install the heatsink by yourself? on the CPU
[05:29] <ryanprior> whatev: We suggest Vinagre as a VNC client for Ubuntu.
[05:30] <mjc> Fezzler: if so there are companies that make silent fans / silent heatsinks
[05:30] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: not bad but this pc is like 5-6 years old
[05:30] <Tr3y-> So, I asked this earlier got no answers, Theres more people here so I'll try again. Whats a good 3d graphics editor that isn't blender
[05:30] <Fezzler> mjc: I think the PS fan makes more noise than the heat sink.
[05:30] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: ah i see. must be motherboard bus or something
[05:30] <mjc> Tr3y-: blender is the only one I know of that works well and is open source. do you want to consider closed source as well?
[05:31] <Tr3y-> mjc: it doesnt bother me if it's closed source
[05:31] <mjc> Fezzler: you can replace those as well with some effort but I really don't recommend it.  try craigslist for cheap PSUs
[05:31] <Tr3y-> i just don't like blender
[05:31] <vineeth> hi
[05:31] <mjc> Tr3y-: Alias Wavefront makes Maya for linux
[05:31] <Tr3y-> guessing theres nothing like zbrush is there?
[05:31] <mjc> Tr3y-: actually looks like they were bought by autodesk, I think
[05:32] <mjc> Tr3y-: if you are interested in raytracing, povray is literally one of the best
[05:33] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: w00t haha just needed those updates i guess. seems to be working good now :P
[05:33] <Tr3y-> I'll check it out thanks mjc
[05:34] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: then want to reinstall compiz? :)
[05:34] <whatev> i have 2 computers in my network. default gateway is 192.168.1.1. i can ping my linux computer fine from windows, but can't ping my windows computer from linux. any idea why?
[05:34] <LEO_> Is there anything I can do to reconfigure X on live CD so that monitor will not say "Video more not supported"?
[05:34] <binarymutant> anyone ever use dvtm?
[05:34] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: nope this wont handle compositing, onboard video = gay :P
[05:34] <ryanprior> !anyone | binarymutant
[05:35] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: hey, my pc's also onboard video!!
[05:35] <ryanprior> billybigrigger: Please be mature with your comments. That's not appreciated.
[05:35] <binarymutant> how do I use dvtm?
[05:35] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: not 6 years old though
[05:35] <|syockit|> billybigrigger: 6 years: i845 series I suppose. sux
[05:36] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: haha your good :P
[05:36] <schnoootop> hello if i create a bin file in my home folder, will all those files be executable from terminal or will i need to link them to /usr/bin ?
[05:36] <vineeth> what is dvtm?
[05:36] <ryanprior> binarymutant: To install it, go to Synaptic (System -> Administration -> Synaptic) and search for dvtm, select it, and click on Apply.
[05:36] <binarymutant> vineeth, it's like dwm but doesn't require Xorg
[05:36] <mefisto__> whatev: windows firewall?
[05:36] <|syockit|> schnoootop: yes, you need to, unless you include your bin in your bash profile
[05:36] <ryanprior> binarymutant: Then, once it's installed, read the dvtm documentation (http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/dvtm/) for more info.
[05:37] <binarymutant> ryanprior, I've compiled it, but how do I use it? I've read the docs but they are lacking
[05:37] <|syockit|> schnoootop: I suggest editing bash profile, adding your bin to list of path
[05:37] <ryanprior> binarymutant: I'd ask their mailing list if I were you. I doubt there are many dvtm experts here.
[05:37] <sk8ball> is there something better than nictoine plus for p2p music sharing
[05:37] <sk8ball> ??
[05:37] <binarymutant> ryanprior, how do I open a new "terminal" with dvtm?
[05:38] <ryanprior> binarymutant: I've never used it. I'm a screens user, myself.
[05:38] <binarymutant> thanks anyways :/
[05:38] <ryanprior> sk8ball: bit torrent > all.
[05:38] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: this old gal actually doesnt run too bad in ubuntu :P slower than molasses in january with xp on it haha, thanks for the help btw :P greatly appreciated
[05:39] <Aperture_Science> ._. So, folks.. I have an issue. I just installed the nvidia driver package on ubuntu, (my video card set is SLI 2x nvidia 8800GT cards). when I restarted after installing the driver package, my GNOME won't start, or maybe it's X that won't start. I'm not sure.
[05:39] <schnoootop> |syockit|, how exactly do i do that :\
[05:39] <emet> I get an error when I do: cowsay -fduck "Hello children!"
[05:39] <billybigrigger> |syockit|: firefox loads in 4 secs with OO in about 7 thats not too shabby at all :P
[05:39] <emet> anyone know why this might be?
[05:40] <emet> Bareword found where operator expected at /usr/share/cowsay/cows/duck.cow line 3, near ")_" <-- that's the error
[05:40] <billybigrigger> can anyone suggest a good piece of webcam software besides cheese? or is cheese about the only option i have?
[05:40] <emet> billybigrigger: for talking with people?
[05:40] <ryanprior> emet: There's an error in the perl code for the duck printer. Time to put your hacking hat on.
[05:40] <|syockit|> schnoootop: in your .bashrc, add the line: export PATH=$PATH:<user bin path>
[05:41] <|syockit|> schnoootop: example: export PATH=$PATH:/home/shnutop/bin
[05:41] <emet> ryanprior: this is a very serious bug, have the developers been alerted to it?
[05:41] <billybigrigger> emet: no just to use the webcam, skype is good for webcam chat
[05:42] <emet> just to like take pictures?
[05:42] <Aperture_Science> Anyone have an idea what could be causing my problem?
[05:42] <whatev> can vinagre use ssl?
[05:42] <emet> cheese is the only thing I know
[05:42] <ryanprior> emet: Feel free to open a bug against the cowsay package, but don't be surprised when those lamers mark it as a "low priority" bug.
[05:42] <ryanprior> whatev: Yes it can.
[05:43] <|syockit|> Aperture_Science: prob x failed with the driver. checked the forums?
[05:43] <blueraven> what's the best app site for ubuntu?
[05:43] <blueraven> is their an equivalent of something like download.com?
[05:43] <emet> blueraven: Applications -> Add/Remove Software
[05:43] <G-Blunted> uhh
[05:43] <mjc> built in :)
[05:43] <G-Blunted> lol
[05:44] <G-Blunted> Add/Remove Programs
[05:44] <ryanprior> blueraven: Ubuntu has a built-in app browser that you can access via Applications -> Add/Remove Software.
[05:44] <G-Blunted> or Synaptic Package Manager
[05:44] <blueraven> that has all of them?
[05:44] <ryanprior> blueraven: For packages not available there, getdeb.net is a good place to look.
[05:44] <|syockit|> and if you still need more, getdeb.com
[05:44] <|syockit|> oh, .net
[05:44] <Aperture_Science> |syockit|, I did dpkg-reconfigure on xserver, and started it again, it says "Primary device is not PCI", "(EE) No devices detected" "Connection refused (errno 111)" and "Connection refused (errno 3)
[05:45] <kevin_> hi
[05:45] <blueraven> is there an app that can remove the need for manually doing things in the command line?
[05:45] <|syockit|> Aperture_Science: just what manner of error is that! never seen one before
[05:45] <blueraven> I'd like things to be more automated like in windows
[05:45] <blueraven> without all the terminal stuff
[05:45] <kevin_> can any1 help me out with my webcam?
[05:45] <blueraven> I haven't used dos in over 10 years
[05:45] <Cpudan80> Aperture_Science: the cake is a lie!
[05:46] <Aperture_Science> I don't know. I wish I could send you a screenshot, but I've got ubuntu installed on a seperate partition on my main machine. So I have to shut down and reboot into ubuntu to try any fixes.
[05:46] <ryanprior> blueraven: The vast majority of administration tasks on the Ubuntu desktop can be accomplished without typing in any commands, luckily.
[05:46] <G-Blunted> What is the difference between packages:  squid and squid3??
[05:47] <|syockit|> Aperture_Science: I'm not qualified to help with nvidia errors though. I'm intel user
[05:47] <ryanprior> blueraven: Many of the interfaces and wizards required to accomplish those tasks are already built-in, and yet more can be installed via add/remove.
[05:47] <Aperture_Science> Oh that's okay. Do you think the nvidia driver install messed with xserver config?
[05:47] <emet> G-Blunted: squid3 is basically a different program
[05:48] <emet> G-Blunted: squad3 was a complete rewrite of squid, some people use the older version
[05:48] <emet> squid is the older version
[05:48] <G-Blunted> anyone know the difference between an Internet Object Cache (WWW Cache) and a Full featured Web Proxy cache (HTTP Cache)??
[05:48] <|syockit|> emet: not just bleeding edge?
[05:48] <G-Blunted> oh
[05:48] <G-Blunted> so i should use squid3 and not squid huh?
[05:48] <emet> sure
[05:50] <blueraven> ryanprior, what about sh and get-apt
[05:50] <|syockit|> damn should 've known earlier. installing squid3 now
[05:50] <zendo> I intend to boot with live version of ubuntu
[05:51] <ryanprior> blueraven: Synaptic exists to remove the need to type in apt-get commands (System -> Administration -> Synaptic) and you can double-click .sh files on the desktop to run them as executables.
[05:51] <LogicalDash> I have a stale NFS file handle. This is odd because it's on a local ext2 file system, and I don't even have NFS installed. How do I get rid of it?
[05:51] <ryanprior> blueraven: Some .sh files require input from the keyboard, in which case you can select "run in terminal" when you double-click.
[05:51] <sk8ball> ryanprior, what bittorrent sites focus on music/mp3?
[05:51] <zendo> Can I boot from live ubuntu version on pc with SATA drive and be able to access all (NTFS) partitions?
[05:52] <ryanprior> sk8ball: I suggest Jamendo and Magnatune.
[05:52] <newubuntu-usr> Hi. I had a quick  question. Does anyone know whether the 250mb of "recommended updates" are worth installing or should I weed through them?
[05:52] <tonsofpcs> anyone know how to play a "pc friendly" dvd?
[05:52] <billybigrigger> newubuntu-usr: install them
[05:53] <newubuntu-usr> @billy: Will they slow down my system?
[05:53] <ryanprior> newubuntu-usr: Refusing updates is a good way to get into trouble, since updates usually fix bugs and security flaws.
[05:53] <binarymutant> how do I get smaller console fonts?
[05:53] <billybigrigger> newubuntu-usr: they are updates for software packages that are installed on your system
[05:53] <ryanprior> binarymutant: Depends on what console you're using. Are you on gnome-terminal?
[05:53] <newubuntu-usr> @billy @ryan : Thanks for the help guys.
[05:53] <zendo> Can I boot from live ubuntu version on pc with SATA drive and be able to access all (NTFS) partitions?
[05:54] <Scunizi> how do I discover the wireless adaptors desigantion.. ie wifi0 or ath0 from terminal..no gui on this machine
[05:54] <binarymutant> ryanprior, not the terminal but the console, like ctrl+alt+f1 console
[05:54] <emet> zendo: can you? yes
[05:54] <n8tuser> zendo -> i believed you can
[05:54] <kindofabuzz> you can change the size of your fixed width font in appearance
[05:54] <billybigrigger> Scunizi: iwlist i believe
[05:54] <billybigrigger> Scunizi: or ifconfig actually
[05:54] <ryanprior> binarymutant: That I don't know.
[05:54] <n8tuser> Scunizi -> iwconfig
[05:54] <zendo> thank you
[05:55] <ryanprior> Scunizi: Try them all until one works.
[05:55] <Scunizi>  thanks. looks like theres a package I need to install for server to recognize the atheros card
[05:55] <zendo> I had problems with 8.04 before so I wanted to check...
[05:56] <Don_Miguel> newubuntu-usr, is this a new install ? If it is NOT, that sounds like a LOT of updates !
[05:56] <TTxT> hi
[05:58] <TTxT> anybody knows why when I try this command: gksudo mount -o loop /path/to/ISO /path/to/mountpoint I got this error: gksudo: invalid option -- 'o'
[05:58] <TTxT> anybody knows why when I try this command: gksudo mount -o loop /path/to/ISO /path/to/mountpoint I got this error: gksudo: invalid option -- 'o'?
[05:58] <kindofabuzz> TTxT, man mount
[05:58] <prince_jammys> TTxT: try gksudo -- mount -o ....
[05:59] <kindofabuzz> try sudo, no need for gksuo on mount
[05:59] <prince_jammys> TTxT: it seems that gksudo thinks the -o option is a gksudo option
[05:59] <trygg> How do I run something in a terminal silently?
[05:59] <trygg> -s didn't work.
[05:59] <prince_jammys> TTxT: ah, yeah, and just use sudo.
[05:59] <kindofabuzz> trygg, you could just put & after the command
[05:59] <ogre> can someone tell me how to control the brightness of my screen plz?
[06:00] <TTxT> prince_jammys: thanks that worked
[06:00] <kindofabuzz> ogre, you could use your monitor settings on the monitor itself
[06:00] <trygg> kindofabuzz: still is active in the terminal.
[06:00] <tritium> ogre: laptop?  Depends on the hardware.
[06:00] <prince_jammys> TTxT: yeah, but you didn't need gksudo to run 'mount'
[06:01] <TTxT> prince_jammys: dont know why gksudo thinks -o is a gksudo option
[06:01] <ryanprior> kindofabuzz: That's for background processes.
[06:01] <kindofabuzz> yeah but it also doesn't put out any output
[06:01] <ryanprior> trygg: ./myprog 2>&1 >/dev/null
[06:01] <prince_jammys> TTxT: some GNU utils accept options anywhere in the command line. a common way to say 'options are over' is --
[06:01] <ryanprior> trygg: That will throw away stdout and stderr.
[06:01] <trygg> Well, not silently, I meant in background. :)
[06:01] <TTxT> prince_jammys:Thanks again
[06:02] <TTxT> prince_jammys: didnt know that
[06:02] <ryanprior> trygg: It pays to be precise! kindofabuzz gave good advice then.
[06:02] <prince_jammys> TTxT: doesn't apply to all programs
[06:02] <kindofabuzz> TTxT, if you read the man of mount, it says you must use -a with -o
[06:02] <trygg> Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
[06:03] <trygg> So, any tip on making a program run in background in terminal? :)
[06:03] <prince_jammys> trygg: command &
[06:04] <kindofabuzz> i just told you
[06:04] <trygg> I want it to just execute and then free up the terminal. It isn't doing that with & atleast.
[06:04] <trygg> Maybe I'm being to vague.
[06:04] <prince_jammys> trygg: you want it to remain alive after you close the terminal?
[06:05] <kindofabuzz> yes & will work, if it keeps going you can just trlc it i think
[06:05] <trygg> Exactly.
[06:05] <prince_jammys> trygg: command & disown
[06:05] <trygg> Ah, there it is.
[06:05] <kindofabuzz> ctrl c i meant
[06:05] <ryanprior> trygg: You mean you want to be able to log out and still have it active? In that case, you need to daemonize the process. One easy way of doing that is by using GNU screens.
[06:05] <kindofabuzz> or use screen =)
[06:05] <trygg> I got it now. Thanks. :)
[06:05] <|syockit|> is screen that good
[06:05] <prince_jammys> yep
[06:05] <kindofabuzz> screen is pretty cool
[06:06] <ryanprior> Screens is very useful. I'm gettin' that fo' sho'.
[06:06] <Scunizi> How do you get aptitude to tag something to install?
[06:06] <prince_jammys> Scunizi: in the interface?
[06:06] <prince_jammys> Scunizi: '+'
[06:07] <Scunizi> ah
[06:07] <Scunizi> prince_jammys: just couldn't figure that one out.. thanks
[06:07] <Daemonic> wow. that bomb I just dropped in the toilet made my pants fit better. w00t!
[06:07] <|syockit|> Scunizi: you could read the help file, check the mneu
[06:08] <|syockit|> Scunizi: ctrl-t to access menu
[06:08] <Scunizi> thanks |syockit|
[06:08] <kindofabuzz> Daemonic, drop the kids off at the pool? =)
[06:09] <Daemonic> kindofabuzz: I took the browns to the superbowl
[06:09] <kindofabuzz> lawl
[06:10] <tritium> Daemonic: please stay on topic.
[06:10] <Daemonic> ok
[06:10] <Daemonic> will do captain!
[06:13] <harley> why wont any of my music play?
[06:14] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: Why won't we elaborate?
[06:14] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, Sorry, what?
[06:15] <gleesond> is there a way to make it so drives and network drives don't show up on the desktop?
[06:15] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: Why wont my music play is hardly terms for a diagnosis, what OS, do other sounds play, does the startup sound play, does it only happen with certain forms of music, what soundcard are we using
[06:16] <MeVsTheVoices> gleesond: Look through the nat settings in gconf-editor
[06:16] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, I have a realtek sound card, all sounds are playing besides my music (mp3 files and yes I have installed the codecs) and I'm using ubuntu 8.10
[06:17] <gleesond> MeVsTheVoices: thanks
[06:17] <MeVsTheVoices> gleesond: No prob
[06:17] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: so you have the good/bad/ugle plugins
[06:17] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, and now there just working again. My songs usually sit at 0:00
[06:18] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, when I turn the computer on again they most likely wont work again
[06:18] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: totem, rhythmbox?
[06:18] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, Banshee, I have tried with about 3 different media players.
[06:18] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, they all do the same thing
[06:18] <kindofabuzz> anyone ever run badblocks? how long does it usually take?
[06:19] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: So probably ALSA, does it start working when you restart, or only works after seemingly random reboots
[06:19] <cell> hi there
[06:19] <MeVsTheVoices> cell: hi
[06:19] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, Just randomly :S it sometimes when I turn on the computer, sometimes it works fine
[06:19] <Sarthor> Hi, I am using this link for helping to use 2 gateways for my linux router, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IProuteRoundRobbin the 2nd gateway is not working, some sites opening and some not, I am here for help..firewall is here http://pastebin.com/m7f3c9ca1
[06:19] <Datzy> Hello.  Is there a way I can enter a static address for to be used for different wireless networks?  Say, a different one for each network that I would connect to?
[06:20] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: Okie doke, weird had the same thing with windows a while back, gimme a minute, *utilizes googles powers*
[06:20] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, haha thanks, I wasn't having much luck with google
[06:21] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: Google is a skill, so is reading, and asking the right qustion
[06:22] <Datzy> is there a command I can use to set a certain static address for the pc?
[06:22] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: try `sudo alsa reload` see if you get anything
[06:24] <bbns_bt> hi
[06:24] <bbns_bt> heee
[06:25] <|syockit|> Datzy: no, you edit the interfaces file
[06:25] <MeVsTheVoices> Datzy: No, static addresses are assigned by your isp, if you want a new internal static, look into your router settings
[06:25] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, if my music doesn't play again should I use that command?
[06:25] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: Did it start working?
[06:26] <Datzy> ﻿MeVsTheVoices: Sorry meant internal address
[06:26] <jza> hi where can I find real-codecs
[06:26] <jza> I wnat to transcode video from rmvb
[06:26] <MeVsTheVoices> Datzy: Then diddle with your router settings
[06:26] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, It was already working again as soon as I asked you why it wasn't working :P
[06:26] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, that's how random it is
[06:26] <mjc> jza: ffmpeg or vlc should be able to do that
[06:27] <jza> ffmpeg lacks the real codecs
[06:27] <nyaa> does anyone know what the dm in nodmraid stands for?
[06:27] <mjc> nyaa: device mapper
[06:27] <Scunizi> Ok.. now my system recognized my atheros card and I've installed restricted extras to enable atheros cards.. I've done sudo ifdown eth0 to bring down the wired connection and tried sudo ifup ath0 with no results.. any ideas?
[06:27] <Nom-> Does anyone know of a good reason why linux-virtual doesn't exist on x86_64 ?
[06:27] <jza> once I have the codecs then, I would be able to transcode with ffmpeg
[06:27] <|syockit|> MeVsTheVoices, datzy's playing with several networks, not just one
[06:27] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: Eggs thats weird, if it tries up again try specifying verbose (usually -v or --versbose) to whatever your using, then posting the output
[06:27] <Datzy> ﻿|syockit|: Would I be able to set certain wireless AP's to use certain local static addresses through editing that file?
[06:27] <nyaa> mjc thanks =)
[06:28] <harley> MeVsTheVoices, ok, thanks for all your help.
[06:28] <mjc> nyaa: "dmraid discovers block and software RAID devices (eg, ATARAID) by using multiple different metadata format handlers which support various formats (eg, Highpoint 37x series). It offers activating RAID sets made up by 2 or more discovered RAID devices, display properties of devices and sets."
[06:28] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: No prob, hope I helped some
[06:28] <mjc> nyaa: and dm is used for a lot of other things as well but dmraid is a specific driver that uses dm
[06:28] <Datzy> ﻿|syockit|:  I think it would be a nice option if ubuntu could assign certain static addresses for saved wireless networks.  Saves things like keys and ssid.  I wonder where I could put in a request for such a feature..
[06:29] <MeVsTheVoices> Datzy: Ubuntu doesn't have control over that
[06:29]  * Datzy takes a look at the forums
[06:29] <MeVsTheVoices> Datzy: Computers are assigned IP, only in special cases do they get a choice
[06:29] <Datzy> ﻿MeVsTheVoices: Thats why I would suggest it as an option :)
[06:29] <jza> mjc: I got unsoported video codec
[06:30] <Datzy> ﻿MeVsTheVoices: yes, in cases where ports are forwarded for certain addresses
[06:30] <Datzy> and probably other cases too
[06:30] <nyaa> mjc thanks =)  I was trying to help a friend get his raid to work and that answers the problem he had with fakeraid
[06:30] <|syockit|> Datzy: hmm, I thought you could set manual ip config per connection?
[06:30] <MeVsTheVoices> Datzy: Or its an old school router that remembers MAC
[06:30] <mjc> nyaa: no problem :)
[06:31] <Datzy> ﻿|syockit|: Thats what I'd like to know
[06:31] <mjc> nyaa: I wish people would quit making fakeraid
[06:31] <winlow> My Ubuntu [8.10] installation is freezing after X is initialized.
[06:32] <Datzy> ﻿MeVsTheVoices:  Well, my friend has a new router that does that, and its quite nice
[06:32] <winlow> I see the pretty painting, but that's it.
[06:32] <MeVsTheVoices> Datzy: HAHA, old school is new school
[06:32] <Datzy> ﻿MeVsTheVoices:  Don't have to set a static address for port forwarding.
[06:32] <Datzy> lol
[06:34]  * Datzy looks for the interface file
[06:35] <|syockit|> Datzy: on second thought, network manager should be handling that
[06:35] <cell> i ve a question. did anybody setup xubuntu on wirtual macihne like "virtual PC". that becasue i am new in ubuntu..
[06:35] <|syockit|> Datzy: you sure gnome's connection manager's got no manual ip config per connection?
[06:35] <MeVsTheVoices> cell: Yes, its possible
[06:35] <PuTrA_caem> dad
[06:35] <Datzy> ﻿|syockit|: Pretty sure
[06:37] <vin> hi
[06:37] <cell> MeVsTheVoices, thanks. i know it posibble. but you have expreience on it
[06:37] <pwill> my keyboard seems to be registering buttons incorrectly....
[06:38] <MeVsTheVoices> cell: I've done a U/Kbuntu install should be the same
[06:38] <pwill> for instance, down arrow is enter, and left, right, and up don't seem to do anything.... anyone know how to fix this?
[06:38] <MeVsTheVoices> cell: Is the same
[06:38] <sk8ball> is there a command to list all partitions on a given (or all hdds)
[06:38] <sk8ball> ?
[06:38] <whatev> sk8ball df -m ?
[06:38] <MeVsTheVoices> sk8ball: fdisk -l
[06:39] <unop> sk8ball, sudo fdisk -l
[06:39] <sk8ball> will that list ntfs paritions as well
[06:39] <MeVsTheVoices> sk8ball: Yes
[06:39] <sk8ball> not just linux and swap?
[06:39] <MeVsTheVoices> sk8ball: Yes
[06:39] <unop> sk8ball, fdisk does not know about filesystems
[06:40] <|syockit|> Datzy: lol http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html says remove gnome network manager. maybe it really sux
[06:40] <MeVsTheVoices> sk8ball: Thats wrong, it will show partition type
[06:40] <MeVsTheVoices> pesky unop
[06:40] <|syockit|> Datzy: says install wicd for good control
[06:40] <unop> MeVsTheVoices, no, the type assigned to a partition is not an actual reflection of the filesystem the partition is formatted as
[06:41] <MeVsTheVoices> unop: Doesn't matter, you set the partition type w/i partition, then give it a FS
[06:42] <jerbear> is there a reason why QT apps don't respect the GTK2_RC_FILES variable?
[06:42] <MeVsTheVoices> unop: So unless you botched the original fdisk, yes, it will
[06:42] <zash> jerbear: Qt is not GTK+
[06:42] <unop> MeVsTheVoices, you're right, the partition type doesn't matter - you can have a partition type of 0x83 (linux) but still format the partition as NTFS
[06:43] <Datzy> ﻿|syockit|: ha interesting
[06:43] <unop> MeVsTheVoices, so, i'll say again - fdisk doesn't know about filesystems - but it does know about partition types - which are two different things
[06:43] <jerbear> zash: i know this, but qt apps within gnome are obviously inheriting some settings from the gtk theme (colors, for instance). is there a way to override this?
[06:43] <MeVsTheVoices> unop: You can, but you shouldn't, if you partitioned it CORRECTLY, it will
[06:43] <unop> MeVsTheVoices, that's not the point
[06:44] <Until_It_Sleeps> I have been trying Ubuntu in a Triple-boot configuration for some time now on my laptop. Now I would like to have Ubuntu as the sole operating system. How can I do this? I have ubuntu installed in a secondary partition.
[06:44] <Datzy> ﻿|syockit|: at least I'm on 8.04 still
[06:44] <MeVsTheVoices> unop: No, I came to the point before, fdisk will show partition type, which is what he asked
[06:44] <|syockit|> Datzy: doesn't hurt to try
[06:44] <Until_It_Sleeps> And how can I do it without disturbing my current Ubuntu installation?
[06:44] <macman> guys .. i want to resize a windows partition using gparted .. how would i do this ?
[06:45] <|syockit|> Datzy: check solution 2 or 3
[06:45] <n8tuser> macman-> which windows?
[06:45] <unop> MeVsTheVoices, fdisk doesn't know about filesytems
[06:45] <Datzy> ﻿|syockit|: Thanks, I'll take a look
[06:46] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: insult unop
[06:46] <Giggles> unop: Thou art but a fobbing dismal-dreaming flax-wench
[06:46] <macman> . /dev/sda1 is ubuntu /dev/sda2 is windows 7 .. i try to resize /dev/sda1 but it just makes frees space .. when i try to resize /dev/sda2 to the free space it won't let me
[06:47] <Until_It_Sleeps> Macman: I had that very problem just 5 minutes ago >.>
[06:47] <MeVsTheVoices> Heh
[06:48] <macman> lol .. Until_It_Sleeps .. no luck right ?
[06:48] <Scunizi> I have a pci wireless card that worked in Gutsy and Hardy but I can't seem to get it activated in 8.10.  It's a server install and I've installed the restricted-server package containing madwifi for the atheros..iwconfig shows it as ath0 but it won't come alive with sudo ifup ath0.. what am i doing wrong?
[06:48] <|syockit|> just how big is the free space
[06:48] <Until_It_Sleeps> yup. no luck
[06:48] <The_Spazzz> I was wondering if someone could help me.  I need a basic XORG.conf file that uses the VESA driver and supports 1028x768 Screen resolution for an old toshiba laptop
[06:49] <Scunizi> The_Spazzz: for the most part there's very little in xorg these days. .open it and change the listed driver to vesa and then restart x.  that might just fix things
[06:49] <MeVsTheVoices> The_Spazzz: If your on 8.10, ubuntu recovery should be able to set one up for you
[06:50] <Until_It_Sleeps> Is it possible to combine partitions?
[06:51] <MeVsTheVoices> Until_It_Sleeps: Not without angering many, many unix gods
[06:51] <Until_It_Sleeps> heh.
[06:52] <quentusrex> Anyone here know french?
[06:52] <tritium> !fr | quentusrex
[06:52] <belesprit> I just switched to Linux from 20 years using of windows... no way I'm ever going back, this software is beautiful.
[06:52] <The_Spazzz> Scunizi & MeVsTheVoices : I know but when I do that it always puts it in 800x600.  Someone was able to help me with this yeserday but my install was hozed by a system update and I had to do a reinstall
[06:53] <MeVsTheVoices> The_Spazzz: I take it the option is not under Screen Resolution?
[06:53] <Scunizi> The_Spazzz: updates don't hose the system.. might break something but that fixable..
[06:53] <LEO_> are USB drivers mounted automatically in ubuntu?
[06:54] <BG_> Yes
[06:54] <Poken_Gabriel> I have a problem with my keyboard on ubuntu 8.04, when I go to the right, this is what I get: - nb
[06:54] <MeVsTheVoices> LEO_: usb drives, or drivers?
[06:54] <Poken_Gabriel> Since a certain update. No change if I change the keyboard.
[06:54] <Poken_Gabriel> And if I click "insert", I have: §6'
[06:54] <Until_It_Sleeps> Well, I would like to have my Ubuntu installation as the sole os. I currently have a dual boot going atm. /dev/sda1 is an fat 16 partition, 23 MB in size, 18 mb used. /dev/sda2 is an NTFS partition with Windows XP Home installed. It's 23 GB in size, amount used is unknown. /dev/sda3 is an extended paritition 32 GB in size. In /dev/sda3 is /dev/sda7,5,and 6. sda7 is a Linux Swap partition. sda5 is now empty space, formatted
[06:54] <Until_It_Sleeps> as ext3, and sda6 is where my Ubuntu partition is located. (*Gasps for breath*)
[06:55] <LEO_> MeVsTheVoices, drives
[06:55] <MeVsTheVoices> Until_It_Sleeps: This seems backwards, but foolproff, get another drive, put all the stuff you want to keep on it, re-install, move the stuff back across
[06:55] <MeVsTheVoices> LEO_: Yes
[06:55] <The_Spazzz> MeVsTheVoices: Nope.  Autoconfig dosent' detect it for some reason.
[06:55] <andresmh> I have a problem with sound. Example: reboot system > last.fm app sound is normal > close last.fm > play sounds with java/flash applets on FF > close FF > sound in last.fm and any other app is really crappy (like an old radio)
[06:56] <VoxJoo> Hey everyone, im having a problem with trying to change my default system sounds like the sound when i empty my trash bin on ubuntu 8.10, i did convert the file to a .wav at first and it played in system>pref>sounds fine, but when i close and delete something and empty my trash the sound does not play ?? i also tried .mp3 and .ogg    any help??
[06:56] <MeVsTheVoices> The_Spazzz: Theres always modelines, haven't had to use unn'a dem' in a while
[06:56] <Until_It_Sleeps> I would like to have the Ubuntu installation  take up the entire hdd, with the linux swap included as well. I don't want to disturb any information on the last partition though.
[06:56] <The_Spazzz> Scunizi : The system died in the middle and it hozed the repsoitory.  Fixible?  Probobly but not with the skills I have.  It was simpler to just reload it and do a net install
[06:57] <Until_It_Sleeps> MeVsTheVoices: Hmmm. Is there something like, say, XP's "Files and settings transfer wizard" in Ubuntu?
[06:57] <MeVsTheVoices> Until_It_Sleeps: There is, I never did get that to work though. Always alternate install CD, are you game :-)
[06:58] <BG_> How many Linux can install in one computer with one HDD?
[06:58] <MeVsTheVoices> BG_: 4
[06:58] <VoxJoo> Hey everyone, im having a problem with trying to change my default system sounds like the sound when i empty my trash bin on ubuntu 8.10, i did convert the file to a .wav at first and it played in system>pref>sounds fine, but when i close and delete something and empty my trash the sound does not play ?? i also tried .mp3 and .ogg    any help??
[06:58] <Until_It_Sleeps> MeVsTheVoices: And that program is?
[06:58] <MeVsTheVoices> BG_: Technically, don't do that though
[06:59] <MeVsTheVoices> Until_It_Sleeps: Ubuntu alternate install CD
[06:59] <MeVsTheVoices> Until_It_Sleeps: Same install, just no gui and much manual involvement
[06:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> oh...
[06:59] <The_Spazzz> MeVsTheVoices : I have no idea how to use modlines and I don't really want to start experimenting on this system.  I just need a baisc Xorg.conf file.  I know that works
[06:59] <MeVsTheVoices> Until_It_Sleeps: If you ever dun did' a gentoo install you'd be good
[07:00] <Until_It_Sleeps> Meh, it will be less work to just format, reinstall, and look up all my themes again >.>
[07:00] <sleepy_cat> c_nick
[07:00] <MeVsTheVoices> The_Spazzz: http://dev.gentoo.org/~fmccor/docs/xorg/xorg.conf/xorg.conf.html use these to pile together your own, your gonna want your manual out, generally at the back there is a specs section
[07:01] <The_Spazzz> MeVsTheVoices: Thank you sir
[07:01] <MeVsTheVoices> The_Spazzz: No prob
[07:03] <jtaby> Hey, is it possible to execute a remote script locally somehow?
[07:03] <jtaby> maybe through ss?
[07:03] <MeVsTheVoices> jtaby: ssh
[07:03] <jtaby> MeVsTheVoices, well yeah but the script expect files to be submitted to it, and I don't want to have to upload the files
[07:04] <prince_jammys> easiest is to copy it and run it locally
[07:04] <MeVsTheVoices> jtaby: Yes, if you want it to run after you disconnect though your going to want to execute `nohup script` will ignore the SIGHUP recieved upon disconnect
[07:04] <jtaby> prince_jammys, won't run from a local machine
[07:04] <Until_It_Sleeps> bbl
[07:04] <prince_jammys> you want it to run on the remote machine or on the local machine?
[07:05] <andresmh> how do I select whether I use ALSA or OSS or Pulse?
[07:05] <belesprit> does the terminal store logs anywhere?
[07:05] <prince_jammys> belesprit: logs of what?
[07:05] <prince_jammys> output or the commands you entered?
[07:05] <belesprit> both
[07:06] <MeVsTheVoices> andresmh: If your on 8.04 or 8.10 your compute will select pulse, by default ALSA, any reason you want to change
[07:06] <belesprit> at least output
[07:06] <prince_jammys> belesprit: the commands are stored in bash's history
[07:06] <brjadams> hey guys Some questions about web cams
[07:06] <brjadams> trying to get my built-in laptop webcam to function
[07:06] <prince_jammys> belesprit: output is not stored, unless you run a program like 'screen'
[07:06] <belesprit> thank you
[07:07] <LurkersA> Hey all, For some reason my CDROM is refusing to mount a CD through normal means, only reporting "Unable to mount location : Can't mount file". How Can I force the CD to mount?
[07:07] <andresmh> MeVsTheVoices, everytime I play sound on a Flash or Java applet the sound quality of my system turns very very low. So far the only way I can fix it is by rebooting.
[07:07] <andresmh> MeVsTheVoices, I was thinking if I switch to a different sound manager it might help, but I have no idea where or if that's even an good idea
[07:08] <prince_jammys> belesprit: well, perhaps you can configure your terminal so it does that. mine doesn't. maybe gnome-terminal does
[07:08] <coobra> is there a nice homepage that has securety stuff that neeeds to be fixed
[07:08] <andresmh> MeVsTheVoices, and I am on 8.10 by the way
[07:08] <MeVsTheVoices> andresmh: You sure its not just flash? Or does the quality keep, and come with other apps too
[07:08] <brjadams> Anyone able to help with webcam support?
[07:08] <andresmh> MeVsTheVoices, no, it is not just flash. Everything sounds horrible after playing something flash and it never comes back to normal quality.
[07:09] <harley> another problem :(
[07:09] <andresmh> Example: reboot system > last.fm app sound is normal > close last.fm > play sounds with java/flash applets on FF > close FF > sound in last.fm and any other app is really crappy
[07:09] <harley> why is my openoffice.org all symbols?
[07:09] <prince_jammys> brjadams: give some details of what you're trying to do, and what's going wrong, and maybe someone who knows can help
[07:09] <andresmh> harley, what do you mean with "all symbols" >
[07:09] <brjadams> Well i am getting zero video
[07:09] <MeVsTheVoices> andresmh: Huh... thats a good one you got there
[07:09] <nyaa> andresmh have you tried installing the libflash file from synaptic?
[07:10] <prince_jammys> brjadams: if you want the generic link from the bot about webcams, do /msg ubottu webcam
[07:10] <harley> as in the symbol font, bunch of stars, circles and everything
[07:10] <brjadams> its a sony laptop on 8.10, built in webcam.
[07:10] <andresmh> nyaa, I don't think it's related to Flash. Also Java applets have the same effect. And yes, I think I installed flash via synaptic. Not 100% sure though.
[07:10] <harley> andresmh,  as in the symbol font, bunch of stars, circles and everything
[07:10] <Don_Miguel> harley, ask that in  #openoffice.org   ... but it sounds like you have the wrong fonts installed somewhere
[07:10] <brjadams> i dont know what type of webcam it is
[07:10] <harley> Don_Miguel, ok thank you
[07:10] <brjadams> its built into my sony laptop
[07:11] <andresmh> MeVsTheVoices, is there a way to "reboot" sound?
[07:11] <prince_jammys> brjadams: gnome has a hardware browser somewhere in the menus. see if it's listed there
[07:11] <MeVsTheVoices> andresmh: Yea, best bet is `sudo alsa reboot` thats only a quick fix though
[07:11] <harley> also what irc client should I use?
[07:11] <nyaa> andresmh libflash fixed a sound issue I had, its not the player itself.
[07:11] <Scunizi> harley: irssi :)
[07:12] <prince_jammys> harley: xchat, pidgin, konversation (all graphical). irssi is a good command-line one
[07:12] <Scunizi> harley: but if you want a gui one.. xchat .. not xchat-gnome
[07:12] <prince_jammys> is pidgin an irc client?
[07:12] <andresmh> MeVsTheVoices, awesome! that worked. Well, it was actually sudo alsa reload
[07:12] <nDuff> prince_jammys, not a good one
[07:12] <harley> Scunizi, I'm using xchat, I can't stand it.
[07:12] <Scunizi> prince_jammys: yes but not a good one.. it's a better im client
[07:12] <MeVsTheVoices> harley: Yea, best bet is xchat
[07:13] <MeVsTheVoices> andresmh: Ahh, sorry, gumbybrain
[07:13] <andresmh> nyaa, how do I check if I have the libflash you suggest?
[07:13] <Scunizi> harley: once you get use to it it's cool.. try /window stick off
[07:13] <prince_jammys> harley: you can try konversation. it's a kde app
[07:13] <Scunizi> harley: then /window new
[07:13] <harley> Scunizi, says it isn't a command
[07:13] <brjadams> um i dont see anythin that shows me my hardware
[07:14] <brjadams> other than lspci, lsusb
[07:14] <Scunizi> harley: ok.. try .. /window new
[07:14] <brjadams> but neither showed me anything that looked like a camera
[07:14] <nyaa> andresmh system > administration > synaptic package manager then in there search for libflash,  there are 2 apps, libflash0c2 and libflash-mozplugin
[07:14] <riz0n> hello, what is a good version of IRC server to run on Ubuntu?? Thanks.
[07:14] <prince_jammys> brjadams: there's also lshw , which you may have to install
[07:14] <andresmh> nyaa, is this the one you recommend: flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS
[07:15] <andresmh> nyaa, i probably don't have the right sources because searching for libflash returns nothing
[07:15] <Scunizi> harley: once you do that use alt+<number> to switch to it. if you only have one channel open then alt+2 and then you can /join #<another channel>
[07:15] <andresmh> nyaa, are you on 8.10?
[07:15] <nyaa> andresmh yes
[07:16] <harley> Scunizi, Yeah that's a pretty good shortcut but it never wants to remember my nick names and such
[07:16] <nyaa> andresmh but how do I tell where a file in synaptic came from repository wise?  I don't have much enabled
[07:16] <brjadams> nothing is sticking out
[07:16] <andresmh> you can right click on it and see properties
[07:16] <unop> nyaa,  apt-cache policy package_name
[07:17] <andresmh> oh, unop  knows better
[07:17] <brjadams> i see 4 usb items listed , but only have 3 usb ports
[07:17] <andresmh> nyaa, it's weird that you have libflash-mozplugin  because it doesn't show up as active for intrepid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libflash-mozplugin
[07:17] <harley> Don_Miguel, there not answering, I think i'd get more support in here :(
[07:17] <Scunizi> harley: you mean on startup?  you need to read on www.irssi.org (I think that's the address).. irssi combind with screen I'm really getting use to.. over the last 4 days I've been trying to live more at terminal just to see what I can do or if I can do the same things as the gui.
[07:17] <andresmh> it does show active for hardy http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libflash-mozplugin
[07:18] <MeVsTheVoices> libflashnonfree or something like that
[07:18] <nyaa> unop if I do that and it says version table: *** 0v4v13-9ubuntu1 0, then what repo did it come from?
[07:18] <harley> Scunizi, I'm talking about xchat, sorry for making you type all of that :P
[07:18] <Flannel> nyaa: dpkg -S /path/to/file, that'll give you the package name.  then apt-cache policy package, or all in one:  apt-cache policy ${dpkg -S /path/to/file}
[07:18] <nyaa> andresmh I upgraded this from hardy a long time ago
[07:18] <andresmh> that explains
[07:18] <nyaa> yeah I didn't think about that
[07:19] <brjadams> i dont see anythin that looks like a Webcam
[07:19] <unop> Flannel,  did you mean to use $() there ?
[07:19] <brjadams> i cant tell anything
[07:19] <Flannel> unop: Erm, sure.  I always just use backticks.
[07:19] <brjadams> the only thing i can tell is that i have 4 usbs showing up and only have 3 physical usb slots
[07:19] <Flannel> unop: So much for moving into the 21st century.
[07:19] <unop> nyaa, is that all you get in the version table?
[07:19] <Scunizi> xchat.. well for it to remember your nick and channels you like on startup you have to look in the server list section and add your neck and pass.
[07:19] <belesprit> I can't figure out how to switch firefox's preference to use gnash spl and swf are not listed in the applications tab.
[07:20] <MeVsTheVoices> Flannel: Should use $(), its a bigger pain, bt faster argument passing
[07:20] <unop> Flannel, yea, though $() has advantages of being nestable
[07:20] <brjadams> any help prince_jammys
[07:20] <harley> Scunizi, I just don't like having to type in my nick every time, and it doesn't want to remember servers
[07:20] <nyaa> unop its hanging right now but thats all it showed aside from installed: #, and Candidate: #
[07:21] <unop> nyaa, maybe.  apt-show-versions -r package_name
[07:21] <nyaa> # being 0v4v13-9ubuntu1
[07:22] <unop> nyaa, hmm, maybe you installed the package manually then?
[07:22] <Scunizi> harley: ok.. I'll walk you through this.. click on xchat in the upper left and then server list
[07:22] <nyaa> unop no chance, that would have been beyond me when I did it
[07:22] <Scunizi> harley: a box will open with a list of networks in it. look for Ubuntu Servers and highlight
[07:22] <Peddy> Where can I download the Linux kernel 2.6.29-rc4 source?
[07:23] <unop> nyaa, another possibility is that the repository you installed it from is no longer available
[07:23] <nyaa> unop if there is a way to install stuff from hardy, thats gotta be where it came from. So far for me its been great, but I bet there's also another solution
[07:23] <Scunizi> harley: now click "edit" on the right of the box and a new box will open
[07:23] <MeVsTheVoices> Peddy: kernel.org
[07:23] <Scunizi> harley: you following this?
[07:24] <unop> nyaa, what's the problem at the moment, exactly?
[07:24] <Guest5863> why dosent banshee play my music
[07:24] <nyaa> unop from what I've found it says there's no version in the archive
[07:24] <nyaa> unop the problem was originally yours lol!  you had sound issues with java etc
[07:25] <unop> nyaa, i don't have problems with sound
[07:25] <unop> nyaa, that was someone else apparently
[07:25] <nyaa> unop I'm drunk, give me your keys
[07:25] <unop> nyaa, fat chance :)
[07:25] <unop> nyaa, but i do have problems with java
[07:26] <harley> Scunizi, yes sorry was in openoffice
[07:26] <Scunizi> harley: did you read above and follow along?
[07:26] <Templar_Xion> How do you have Network Manager not have the keyring prompt when attempting to connect to an already known wireless network after login?
[07:26] <nyaa> unop it was andresmh! lol I got tricked somewhere along the way
[07:26] <harley> Scunizi, Yes I did
[07:26] <sean_1> can any one help me
[07:26] <Peddy> MeVsTheVoices, I looked everywhere I could think of on the site, but I can't seem to find it... do you know where it might be?
[07:27] <nyaa> unop but I don't have his solution, so I guess I'm gonna stop clogging the channel and play streetfighter =)
[07:27] <sean_1> banshee doesnt play my music
[07:27] <Scunizi> harley: ok.. so you have the box open that says at the top "xchat: edit ubuntu servers" ?
[07:27] <unop> nyaa, :)
[07:27] <Aperture_Science> So, I have a question. I've got an SLI setup with two nvidia 8800gt cards. Every time I install the drivers, it messes up my X app and it won't load X or GNOME, so I'm stuck with the CLI. Any ideas?
[07:27] <harley> Scunizi, yep.
[07:27] <nyaa> good luck =)
[07:27] <unop> Templar_Xion, do you log in automatically?
[07:27] <Templar_Xion> unop yes
[07:28] <GuruDrew> Any easy GUI-based ftp sync apps in the repos?
[07:28] <unop> Templar_Xion, that's the problem - the current PAM implementation requires you to have typed your password out for keyrings, etc to be unlocked
[07:28] <GuruDrew> s/easy/simple/
[07:28] <Templar_Xion> unop, any hack around it?
[07:29] <cishpix> I've setup my proxy server with squid, when I check the log file, I can't see the IP that use the internet connection and it just use 127.0.0.1. How can I set it?
[07:29] <Scunizi> harley: ok.. the server listed should be irc.ubuntu.com/8001.. there should be a tic mark on the following.. "Use global user..." and "Auto connect to this.." and "Use a proxy.."  .. in Channels to join add #ubuntu.. in Nickserv Pass. add your password.. now click close
[07:29] <unop> Templar_Xion, i've not found anything (yet) - but it's also been sometime since i last looked hard
[07:29] <whatev> why am i getting 'chown: changing ownership of 'test/': Operation not permitted' when i run: sudo chown www-data test/?
[07:29] <Templar_Xion> unop, any suggestions besides manually logging in?
[07:29] <unop> whatev, what filesystem is the file on?
[07:29] <whatev> unop a usb stick
[07:29] <Scunizi> harley: you'll be back at xchat: Network list
[07:29] <unop> Templar_Xion, using no passphrases for the keyring
[07:29] <whatev> oh probably because it's fat32 doh
[07:30] <unop> whatev, exactly right
[07:30] <harley> Scunizi, Alright 1 second, let me restart.
[07:30] <nickrud> whatev, because www-data is a user, not a directory or file
[07:30] <Scunizi> harley: in this box under User Information.. Nick name: put your nick
[07:30] <Templar_Xion> unop, how do you reset the passphrase for the keyring?
[07:30] <unop> nickrud, eh? :)
[07:30] <Milkeh> Scunizi, Alright It's working now, thank you :)
[07:30] <nickrud> unop, eh, misread his line, was about to recind ;(
[07:30] <whatev> why does ubuntu use pgp for everything
[07:31] <Peddy> MeVsTheVoices, I found it at http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/linux-2.6.29-rc4.tar.bz2
[07:31] <unop> Templar_Xion,  gnome-keyring-manager
[07:31] <Scunizi> Milkeh: AH you changed nicks.. nice to see it working
[07:31] <brjadams> Can anyone help me fix my laptop webcam
[07:31] <MeVsTheVoices> Peddy: Cool
[07:31] <brjadams> ?
[07:31] <Peddy> :)
[07:31] <Milkeh> what was the channel for openoffice?
[07:31] <Milkeh> Scunizi, Thanks for the help :)
[07:31] <Scunizi> Milkeh: openoffice.org
[07:31] <Milkeh> #openoffice.org
[07:31] <Milkeh> woops
[07:32] <cishpix> I've setup my proxy server with squid, when I check the log file, I can't see the IP that use the internet connection and it just use 127.0.0.1. How can I set it?
[07:32] <nickrud> whatev, because techy geeks like gpg and signing things for security
[07:32] <Scunizi> Milkeh: no problem
[07:32] <Templar_Xion> unop, thx
[07:32] <nickrud> !webcam | brjadams you should start here
[07:33] <Scunizi> Milkeh: did you install a theme from someplace?
[07:33] <The_Spazzz> Still not having any luck with this XOrg issue :-(
[07:34] <CAiRO__> what do i have to do so i can use a scanner as user and not as root? when i run sane-find-scanner, it does only find it when i run it as root
[07:35] <CAiRO__> and there's no device file whose permissions i could change
[07:35] <CAiRO__> device `plustek:libusb:005:008' is a Canon CanoScan N670U/N676U/LiDE20 flatbed scanner
[07:35] <CAiRO__> if i run it as root
[07:35] <dutch> could someone help me with my fresh intrepid install? trying to make pulseaudio (or any sound) work...
[07:36] <oligo> strange question: has anyone um.. reported headaches after installing ATI linux drivers w/ a LCD?
[07:36] <regex-hater> what does the exec command do?
[07:36] <brjadams> well nothing is apperaing in my dev/video0 directory
[07:36] <brjadams> yet xawtv finds my webcam
[07:37] <Aperture_Science> So, I have a question. I've got an SLI setup with two nvidia 8800gt cards. Every time I install the drivers, it messes up my X app and it won't load X or GNOME, so I'm stuck with the CLI. Any ideas?
[07:37] <unop> regex-hater, that's not really a command but a shell builtin --  at your shell.  help exec
[07:37] <unop> regex-hater, basically - it replaces the current process with the one it is invoking
[07:37] <GuruDrew> Anyone know of a linux binary/gui that will quickly compare and synchronize an FTP local vs. remote?
[07:38] <dutch> GuruDrew: not ftp, but you could try rsync
[07:38] <regex-hater> unop, Okey Thanks :P
[07:39] <regex-hater> unop, any particulor reasons to use that builtin?
[07:39] <nDuff> GuruDrew, FTP doesn't have a mechanism for doing synchronization of that sort, as there's no way to get remotely-calculated checksum spans. As dutch says -- use rsync... but lftp will do almost anything that *can* be done over FTP, including recursive copies with support for ignoring files already present
[07:39] <mhr3> new AWN! http://digg.com/linux_unix/Awn_Awn_Extras_0_3_2_Released
[07:40] <mhr3> sorry for spam
[07:40] <nDuff> regex-hater, plenty. For instance: When you exec something else, all signals go to it rather than you, and its exit status is used in place of yours
[07:40] <nDuff> regex-hater, ...it's more efficient in terms of memory and such, since you don't have two processes in place...
[07:40] <unop> regex-hater, not particularly within an interactive shell .. but within a script, you might want to launch a process and terminate the script, or reset the script environment before launching a process or setup redirections for the script itself, etc
[07:40] <nDuff> regex-hater, ...and starting a subprocess does an exec under the hood *anyhow*, just with a fork preceding it (such that the invoking process isn't destroyed)
[07:41] <smultron> anyone here use GNOME-Do?
[07:41] <unop> smultron, i do
[07:41] <smultron> how do you get into the prefs once you enable docky, unop?
[07:41] <regex-hater> unop, thansk for the answer
[07:41] <smultron> all i can do is type things in the box
[07:41] <regex-hater> nDuff, thanks :)
[07:42] <smultron> unop: i'm on Xubuntu 8.10
[07:42] <nDuff> regex-hater, np. BTW, I take it there's a history behind your nick?
[07:42] <unop> smultron, i don't use it on gnome - so i don't know what docky is .. but gnome-do should have a little arrow on the top right hand side that drops down a little menu
[07:42] <diva076> I have a problem with in installation of ubuntu
[07:42] <diva076> could anyone please help
[07:43] <smultron> unop: yeah, docky is an alternate interface (like Mac OS X's dock)... no little arrow anymore
[07:43] <brjadams> ok so xawtv finds my cam no problem
[07:43] <smultron> a 'skin'
[07:43] <brjadams> but, camstream and all the other apps cannot
[07:43] <regex-hater> nDuff, Well actually no, I'm studying Linux and well when I got to the part with regex. Well lets say I think its really hard
[07:44] <GuruDrew> nDuff, dutch thanks I appreciate your help.
[07:44] <Mazali> Good morning
[07:44] <diva076> I am getting a black screen with mouse pointer after login
[07:44] <LEO_> is there any decent doftware to store passwords/sensitive data securely on linux?
[07:44] <Mazali> I was just about to ask about the same problem
[07:45] <nDuff> regex-hater, mmm. I've been doing this for ~15 years or so, and regexes (particularly PCRE-style ones) are my friends. I don't like seeing people hate my friends. :P
[07:45] <diva076> to ubuntu
[07:45] <nDuff> LEO_, I typically use keepassx
[07:45] <unop> smultron, ah, no idea then - i've never had to mess with its preference, it somehow just works fine
[07:45] <nDuff> LEO_, ...it's a port of (and thus compatible with) the KeePass tool available on other platforms.
[07:45] <smultron> ah, ok. thanks unop
[07:45] <Mazali> diva076: if you get a solution, please pm me
[07:45] <Mazali> I reinstalled ubuntu already, didn't work
[07:45] <diva076> ok mazali
[07:46] <Mazali> Which version did you install?
[07:46] <regex-hater> nDuff, haha well im trying to learn but its hard
[07:46] <LEO_> nDuff, cool
[07:46] <diva076> yeah i've installed a few times very anouying
[07:46] <Mazali> And was it your first time login where it jammed?
[07:46] <diva076> version 8.10
[07:46] <diva076> u
[07:46] <LEO_> nDuff, I am trying to find something with autologon feature
[07:46] <Mazali> did you install it from alternate cd or live cd?
[07:46] <Mazali> 8.10 alternate
[07:46] <unop> smultron, maybe this helps - https://answers.launchpad.net/do/+question/44324
[07:47] <diva076> i was sent the free desktop cd
[07:47] <onob> anyone here a dvb-guru on ubuntu?
[07:48] <learning-regex> nDuff, is it better now? :P
[07:48] <winlow> Mazali, I'm in the same boat.
[07:48] <nDuff> learning-regex, heh, just so. :)
[07:49] <Milkeh> Scunizi, thanks for all your support
[07:49] <brjadams> ok so it seems that getting flash and all that to recognize webcams is a no go
[07:49] <brjadams> because they dropped the ball in 8.10 with the v4L2/1 mess
[07:50] <diva076> so is there a version of ubuntu that works
[07:50] <smultron> unop: ah yeah, i'm on the latest version too
[07:51] <Aperture_Science> whois Relentless
[07:51] <nickrud> brjadams, didn't want to be the one to tell you that ... you picked it up quickly enough though
[07:51] <diva076> as i am new to linux and wish to try it out
[07:51] <brjadams> ugg
[07:52] <brjadams> total let down
[07:52] <nickrud> hey, mines working right now :)
[07:52] <brjadams> haha.
[07:52] <brjadams> well I am glad. I guess it also depends on the camera model
[07:52] <brjadams> maybe this external cam i have will work
[07:52] <bullgard4> '~$ ps auxww | grep 24002; ... 0:14 rhythmbox cdda://scd0/.' What means 'cdda://scd0/'?
[07:52] <nickrud> it comes and goes. sometimes unplugging it works. sometimes not. sometimes a boot fixes it. sometimes not
[07:53] <brjadams> sounds like my ex gf
[07:53] <syockit> diva076: which did you try? I think it's safe to try Ubuntu Hardy Heron
[07:53] <lmfao> lmfao
[07:53] <Shadow_X> hey guys. i'm having problems with my Wifi card in 8.10. It sees the card and sees the networks and all settings are right.....and it was connected moments ago. then upon reboot has disconnected. ideas?
[07:53] <lmfao> lmfao
[07:53] <lmfao> lmfao
[07:53] <FloodBot1> lmfao: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <Aperture_Science> FloodBot1  just laid down the law.
[07:54] <nickrud> ignore the man behind the curtain ;)
[07:54] <Aperture_Science> So, I have a question. I've got an SLI setup with two nvidia 8800gt cards. Every time I install the drivers, it messes up my X app and it won't load X or GNOME, so I'm stuck with the CLI. Any ideas?
[07:55] <Scunizi> Is there a way to view a jpg at terminal?
[07:56] <brjadams> ok, so xawtv uses my cam
[07:56] <brjadams> wtf
[07:56] <brjadams> lol
[07:56] <brjadams> i just cant get blasted flash to read it or anything
[07:56] <Poken_Gabriel> @scunizi: http://www.google.ch/search?hl=en&q=jpeg+ascii+linux&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[07:56] <Flannel> Scunizi: install caca-utils, and then there's one, yeah.  It uses ASCII.
[07:56] <brjadams> If this laptop has a built in cam, but I want to utilize a usb cam instead, how would i manage that
[07:57] <Scunizi> Flannel Poken_Gabriel thanks. trying to see how long I can live at the terminal and get things done
[07:57] <brjadams> hmm.
[07:57] <brjadams> so device 5 under lsusb is my built in camera
[07:58] <brjadams> and i have my external cam plugged in. is there a way to force things to one or the other?
[07:58] <Mazali> Is there any way to get over the blank screen after login?
[07:59] <syockit> Mazali: it's probably compiz causing problem
[07:59] <prison_break> hello how can i remove supertux? 	i installed it via terminal 		and i cannot remove it
[08:00] <Mazali> syockit: okay, what can I do for it?
[08:00] <winlow> syockit, what's compiz?
[08:00] <Scunizi> Flannel: installed and looked at a jpg.. the first thing is it presented the exif data then just a bunch of gibberish.. did I miss something?
[08:00] <syockit> Mazali: you on intel graphics?
[08:00] <blizzle> winlow, OpenGL accelerated window manager, Compiz.
[08:00] <Flannel> Scunizi: You're using cacaview, right?
[08:00] <Scunizi> Flannel: granted the jpg was a link on a webpage
[08:01] <Mazali> syockit: no idea, it's integrated
[08:01] <winlow> I've got the same problem as Mazali.
[08:01] <winlow> I've tried safe graphics mode as well.
[08:01] <blizzle> winlow, Search for Compiz on youtube for an idea of what to expect.
[08:02] <winlow> So ubuntu is approximating OpenGL functionality on my graphics card?
[08:02] <blizzle> winlow, Ubuntu no, Compiz yes. If you're using Compiz, that is.
[08:02] <winlow> Is that really a reliable way to initialize a GUI installer?
[08:02] <Mazali> well, can we say fuck off to compiz?
[08:03] <Shadow_X> my server's hostname is cerebellum. howcome everytime i run a command that involves networking, it errs with "cannot resolve host cerebellum"?
[08:03] <unop> Mazali, easy with the language
[08:03] <_ReadErro> hello all
[08:03] <_ReadErro> is there a simple way to get into xconfig ?
[08:03] <Scunizi> Flannel: wow.. I saved the jpg and loaded it up in cacaview.. interesting
[08:03] <_ReadErro> I set some resolution that it should display
[08:03] <_ReadErro> but, its a bunch of lines that are unreadable
[08:03] <blizzle> Mazali, Sure, Compiz isn't required to run Linux. Up to you if you use it or not (and the spec of your graphics adapater).
[08:03] <_ReadErro> I dont really need xserver...
[08:03] <unop> Shadow_X, is cerebellum listed in /etc/hosts ?
[08:03] <rww> Shadow_X: Do you have a line in your /etc/hosts file that mentions cerebellum?
[08:03] <Flannel> Scunizi: commands/options are at the top.  vim controls, +- zoom, d cycles dithering options.
[08:03] <Mazali> blizzle: ok, how do I unload it?
[08:04] <blizzle> Shadow_X, Try editing your hosts file, perhaps.
[08:04] <winlow> What does ubuntu use to initialize its GUI installation?
[08:04] <LEO_> I have win xp on the machine right now, do I need to format it before I start installing Ubuntu
[08:04] <LEO_> ?
[08:04] <blizzle> Mazali, apt-get remove compiz for starters.
[08:04] <winlow> Whatever it is, my ATI x800 doesn't like it.
[08:04] <arcnewuss> my wireless card works fine in gnome through some automated app; but i  always get error when starting it mannually
[08:04] <Scunizi> Flannel: how do you access teh controls?  alt+letter
[08:04] <rww> LEO_: No, you can have both installed at once. Ubuntu can resize your Windows drive to make room.
[08:05] <LEO_> nice
[08:05] <blizzle> LEO_, If you no longer require XP, it's safe to remove the partition completely.
[08:06] <blizzle> LEO_, And of course, you can always run XP in VirtualBox.
[08:06] <Scunizi> Flannel: never mind I figured it out.. still not the best representation
[08:06] <LEO_> Will ubuntu install a boot loader if I choose to leave XP?
[08:06] <arcnewuss> i solved it: I deleted everything in file 'ifstate'
[08:06] <Aperture_Science> If my NVIDIA drivers cause my xsever to freak out, what are some possible solutions?
[08:06] <Scunizi> LEO_: yes
[08:06] <blizzle> LEO_, Yes, Ubuntu will install Grub.
[08:06] <LEO_> nice
[08:06] <_ReadErro> what grub command can I use to stop ubuntu from booting into X?
[08:06] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: how does it freek out?
[08:07] <_ReadErro> but framebuffer
[08:07] <_ReadErro> or console
[08:07] <arcnewuss> its my first day with dwm it seems pretty nice
[08:07] <LEO_> If I decide to get rid of Windows in future, would it be easy to do from Ubuntu portion of drive or would I have to reinstall from scratch?
[08:07] <rww> Aperture_Science: are you sure that the Nvidia drivers for Linux support SLI? I don't use them, but I vaguely remember someone saying that they don't a while ago.
[08:07] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, "Primary Device is not PCI", "(EE) No devices detected" "Connection refused (errno 111)" and lastly "No such process (errno 3)
[08:08] <rww> LEO_: as long as you install Ubuntu to a separate partition, and don't use Wubi/"Install from Windows", then yes, you can do it from Ubuntu without reinstalling.
[08:08] <houstond> good evening all
[08:08] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: when you boot and get the grub menu choose rescue and there is an option there to reconfigure X
[08:08] <houstond> need help with ubuntu 8.10  world of warcraft problem
[08:08] <Aperture_Science> rww, I don't want to have to rip out my SLI config though, I'd like to leave it as is hardware wise.
[08:08] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, I've tried that.
[08:09] <houstond> anyone here familiar with running world of warcraft on ubuntu?
[08:09] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: rww might be right.. the stock drivers might not support sli.. check nvidia's site in the linux section for more info on that.
[08:09] <yojimbo-san> I've created some LVM logical volumes, done mkfs /dev/mapper/VG-lv all OK ... they mount by name, but the UUIDs are not in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ... how do I get this dir to refresh itself? vgmknodes doesn't seem to help.
[08:09] <pike__> wow so uh nvidia-legacy drivers arent supported in current xorg...
[08:10] <Scunizi> pike__: you have to install them
[08:10] <LEO_> Ok, I dont know what to do. When I tried live cd, it would give me "video mode not supported" error, now that I try installing  it I get same
[08:10] <xenocide21> how do i install flash? sorry for the noob question
[08:10] <pike__> Scunizi: ah no see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support they flat dont work in this version of x
[08:10] <root> i don't know
[08:11] <Fractured> hey guys, my computers color is off on the monitor. is there a utility in ubuntu that can help me adjust the color like there is in windows? the color is like washed out
[08:11] <gordonjcp> n8tuser: ?
[08:11] <gordonjcp> n8tuser: mistab?
[08:11] <rww> xenocide21: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree". From the command-line: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:11] <Aperture_Science> Checking now. Thanks for the support, Scunizi, rww
[08:12] <xenocide21> thank you
[08:12] <tk3> hi all - I'm having really weird sound issues in 8.04. just started this morning. VLC no audio, mplayer on CLI playing an mp3 literally stops when it gets to "starting playback" but audio in a flash player in browser and ubutu audio tests is fine - any thoughts?
[08:12] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: np.. you might end up installing 180.xx to get it to work.
[08:12] <yojimbo-san> mmk, a restart of udev did the trick.
[08:13] <Scunizi> pike__: maybe nvidia-glx-96
[08:14] <Scunizi> can I shut down a machine remotely via ssh?
[08:14] <Mazali> So, is there any solution for the blank screen after login
[08:14] <yojimbo-san> Scunizi: yep, just "sudo shutdown -P now"
[08:14] <yojimbo-san> Scunizi: that'll power it off. You need to touch the machine to power it back on :-)
[08:14] <Scunizi> yojimbo-san: what's the -P for? power?
[08:14] <LEO_> Would anyone like to help me install Ubuntu? I have problems with my LCD monitor
[08:15] <blizzle> "sudo shutdown -h 0" works just as well, if not better.
[08:15] <yojimbo-san> Scunizi: yes .. otherwise most Ubuntu servers will pause at a manual-intervention screen on the console, asking for a reboot
[08:15] <scizzo-> LEO_: maybe you could give us a little more information about what exactly is going wrong with the install
[08:15] <blizzle> Or "sudo shutdown -r 0" if a reboot is required.
[08:15] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, I'm kind of a linux newb. could you explain 180.xx to me?
[08:15] <LEO_> scizzo-, I get my monitor display "Video Mode Not Supported"
[08:15] <houstond> can someone tell me how to make sure compiz??? is off
[08:16] <scizzo-> LEO_: after install?
[08:16] <blizzle> houstond, apt-get install compiz-icon perhaps.
[08:16] <scizzo-> LEO_: what graphics card and so on?
[08:16] <Larrxi> how to make my HDA ATI SB to not load at boot?
[08:16] <scizzo-> LEO_: we need a little more information of exactly what is happening and when the error occur
[08:16] <LEO_> scizzo-, during install or live cd, ATI radeon 3600 if I'm not mistaken
[08:17] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: there is a driver on nvidia site for linux and the version number begins with 180.. the xx is for other version info. so a driver that's labeled 180.11 is older than 180.22 or .28..
[08:17] <LEO_> scizzo-, It happens when the loading bar fills up in live cd, or when I start installation
[08:17] <scizzo-> LEO_: intrepid?
[08:17] <winlow> What does "Safe Graphics Mode" actually do while loading the GUI installer?
[08:17] <quibbler> houstond: system-preferences-appearence-visual effects choose none
[08:17] <LEO_> scizzo-, what is that?
[08:17] <scizzo-> LEO_: I mean which version of ubuntu?
[08:18] <scizzo-> LEO_: intrepid ibex?
[08:18] <LEO_> dont know, just the one that's on the download page
[08:18] <Aperture_Science> Oh. Of course, I'm sorry I know about version numbers and all. Being brand new to linux is like trying to take everything I've learned about computers in the last 10 years, and throw it out. It's fun! But it's also challenging. Thanks for the tips, Scunizi.
[08:18] <washed> bunty fun fun
[08:18] <scizzo-> LEO_: right sounds like a problem that has come up before actually with the ATI card if I am not wrong
[08:19] <LEO_> scizzo-, so it's not the X setting or something?
[08:19] <LEO_> or monitor?
[08:19] <Tr3y-> Aperture_Sciend: do you do what you must because you can?
[08:19] <Tr3y-> :-P
[08:19] <The_Spazzz> Has anyone else had trouble with Wired networking after a recent update?
[08:19] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: movie -rating -duration Australia
[08:19] <Giggles> MeVsTheVoices: Rating: 7.2, Votes: 14286. Duration: USA:165 min.
[08:19] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: I made the conversion 3 years ago and it's been a never ending learning curve.. once you learn one thing its off to another..
[08:19] <Aperture_Science> For right now, Tr3y- , I do what I can, because I must.
[08:20] <scizzo-> LEO_: try the things that winlow said
[08:20] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: movie -title -year Australia
[08:20] <scizzo-> LEO_: 09:17     winlow What does "Safe Graphics Mode" actually do while loading the GUI installer?
[08:20] <Giggles> MeVsTheVoices: Title: Australia. Year: 2008.
[08:20] <xenocide21> woot!! my sound works!
[08:20] <xenocide21> :P
[08:20] <Scunizi> Is there a way to view pdf's at terminal?
[08:20] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: movie -awards Australia
[08:20] <scizzo-> LEO_: opps I mean try to install it in safe graphics instead
[08:20] <Giggles> MeVsTheVoices: Awards: Nominated for Oscar. Another 3 wins & 10 nominations.
[08:20] <Tr3y-> scunizi: you forgot to add that the learning curve gets easier as you learn more :-P
[08:20] <xenocide21> my system is still kinda sluggish but its bout the best i can do for optimum productivity :)
[08:21] <scizzo-> LEO_: there should be options for that if I am not mistaken....... *long time since I made a new install*
[08:21] <Aperture_Science> I wish I could have someone here to hold my hand while I break my computer multiple times trying to learn everything. o.O
[08:21] <winlow> scizzo-, I tried using safe graphics mode, checked the fidelity of the burn, and checked the hash of the ISO - and install still hangs after if fires up the GUI.
[08:21] <Tr3y-> Aperture_Science: what are you trying to do that will break your computer
[08:21] <winlow> Is there an issue with ATI cards?
[08:21] <MeVsTheVoices> winlow: Many, many issues
[08:22] <Tr3y-> winlow: from my use of linux in general nvidia has always been better supported and it's best to stick with them
[08:22] <winlow> This is nonsense.
[08:22] <mchelen> winlow, what model? and are you using proprietary drivers
[08:22] <Scunizi> Tr3y-: can :) but depends on what you're diping yourself in.. I've been trying to live at the terminal as much as possible.. so. ssh, screen, irssi, mutt, elinks etc.. trying to find solutions to do what I did in the gui.
[08:22] <winlow> I fly through Gentoo installs on ATI hardware.
[08:22] <LEO_> scizzo-, let me know if you remember where it's at please
[08:22] <The_Spazzz> When I updated Ubuntu today on my laptop my wired connection now says "Unmanaged" I can connect wirelessly but trying to surf anywhere results in firefox saying Address Not Found.  I know its not my connection because all other machines work fine including the one i'm on now with the exact same software.  HELP!
[08:22] <mchelen> my ati works great, you just need the right drivers installed
[08:22] <Aperture_Science> Nvidia drivers, Tr3y- . SLI Nvidia drivers, specifically. When I install the package through Synaptic it for some reason makes xserver freak out and decide I don't want GNOME.
[08:22] <Tr3y-> scunizi: <3 irssi wouldn't use another client :-P
[08:22] <blizzle> Tr3y-, Now that amd/ati have open sourced significant portions of their driver libraries, ati cards are in the ascendant on Linux.
[08:22] <scizzo-> LEO_: during the startup of the CD...there are options where you can chose to install and so on
[08:22] <nite_johnboy> Hi - I'am trying to add a new pci express video card - When I install it I can not boot back into Ibex using safe mode - Any idea's ?
[08:22] <stix> Hi guys. Have any of you experienced flash movies played in firefox, only will play about 3 secs and then stops? I can play another 3 secs if I click the scroll-bar. This happens with youtube videos etc.
[08:22] <Scunizi> Tr3y-: yes.. takes a while to get use to.  but I do like it.
[08:23] <Aperture_Science> And I'm stuck with a CLI after the install.
[08:23] <Larrxi> howto blacklist snd_hda_intel?
[08:23] <scizzo-> LEO_: there are various options for installing using different types of graphics....example safe graphics
[08:23] <Scunizi> Tr3y-: so do you know of an app that will allow pdf viewing in terminal?
[08:23] <MeVsTheVoices> Aperture_Science: Boot that X!
[08:23] <mchelen> Aperture_Science, you could try envy-ng
[08:23] <Tr3y-> scunizi: let me do a little looking never needed to view one in terminal
[08:23] <scizzo-> LEO_: otherwise I might suggest you to get hardy...then upgrade to ibex
[08:24] <scizzo-> LEO_: which might help with the problem
[08:24] <Scunizi> !resolution | Aperture_Science
[08:24] <winlow> mchelen, so I need to burn the ATI drivers released for linux on a CD and select the driver CD option from the initial install menu?
[08:24] <Aperture_Science> mchelen, envy-ng? Could you explain that to me like I'm five years old? I'm -brand- new to linux.
[08:24] <LEO_> scizzo-, I need that setting to be added to install screen
[08:25] <Tr3y-> scunizi: sudo apt-get install pdftohtml use that on all of yoru pdf files and then open the output html file in lyn
[08:25] <Tr3y-> **lynx
[08:25] <nite_johnboy> I'am trying to add a new pci express video card - When I install it I can not boot back into Ibex using safe mode - Any idea's ?
[08:25] <syockit> Aperture_Science: first, let's restore the X setting so that it uses nv instead of nvidia
[08:26] <scizzo-> LEO_: you are not trying to add some features before installing are you?
[08:26] <MeVsTheVoices> pdf--
[08:26] <Aperture_Science> I'm on a clean install of Ubuntu right now, syockit. I just formated and reinstalled to get my GUI back for now. But I'm without video drivers.
[08:26] <kaushal> firefox 3.0.6 is not back ported to Ubuntu 8.04
[08:26] <Aperture_Science> Is that a good starting poitn?
[08:26] <kaushal> when it is going to be done ?
[08:27] <Scunizi> Tr3y-: just found that in elinks..
[08:27] <syockit> Aperture_Science: probably. then better find out if your problem is a known one or not
[08:27] <Mazali> Any solution for that black screen after login?
[08:27] <blizzle> Mazali, What does startx do for you?
[08:27] <syockit> Aperture_Science: Did you install through the Restricted Drivers manager, or some other method?
[08:27] <syockit> Mazali: if you on intel driver, tryhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/115886/
[08:28] <Aperture_Science> syockit, I've been bouncing around different forums. Haven't found anything specific to my issue, I installed using Synaptic.
[08:28] <Scunizi> Tr3y-: pdftohtml is part of poppler-utils..
[08:29] <LEO_> scizzo-, no, not adding any features
[08:29] <mchelen> winlow, it wont even install? are you using the alt install cd?
[08:29] <Aperture_Science> syockit, specifically I followed System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[08:29] <LEO_> scizzo-, I tried it with different monitor now, it works...
[08:29] <Tr3y-> Scunizi: I just told you the first thing I found on google never had the need for it :-P
[08:29] <mchelen> !envy-ng | Aperture_Science
[08:29] <syockit> Aperture_Science: where did you look for the howto? Have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:29] <mchelen> !envy | Aperture_Science
[08:29] <Scunizi> Tr3y-: that's probably the same link I looked at..
[08:30] <winlow> mchelen, I'm using the general release. I fires up the GUI, loads a pretty picture, then hangs.
[08:30] <mchelen> Aperture_Science, it tries to find the right driver for your card
[08:30] <mchelen> winlow, use the alt install cd
[08:30] <syahril> #vbox
[08:31] <Aperture_Science> Hmmm. I might try that, mchelen. syockit, I don't think (but I could be horribly, horribly wrong) that it concerns with the driver install, but rather how xserver acts AFTER the driver install.
[08:31] <syockit> Aperture_Science: yup, me thinks so too
[08:31] <mchelen> Aperture_Science, what model card?
[08:32] <Aperture_Science> Nvidia 8800 GT
[08:32] <mchelen> winlow, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[08:32] <Scunizi> !resolution | Aperture_Science Aperture_Science you might check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what driver is actually listed
[08:32] <mchelen> Aperture_Science, thats a recent enough card, it should work fine, even without envyng
[08:33] <yao_ziyuan> how do i open up udp and tcp port 8887 (for i2p)?
[08:33] <scizzo-> LEO_: strange
[08:33] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: I missed it.. what card do you have?
[08:33] <blizzle> yao_ziyuan, Use gufw or firestarter.
[08:34] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, Nvidia 8800 GT
[08:34] <LEO_> scizzo-, maybe it's not recognising the monitor properly and giving wrong resolution
[08:34] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: and when you activated the restricted driver in System>admin>hardware drivers .. which one did you choose?
[08:34] <winlow> Ubuntu is definitely not automatic as advertised.
[08:35] <syockit> Aperture_Science: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698805 might have a clue?
[08:35] <winlow> I'm grabbing slackware. ttfn.
[08:35] <LEO_> If I choose to leave Windows and decrease the size of it, will I be able to erase it in future?
[08:35] <blizzle> LEO_, Sure you can erase in future.
[08:35] <LEO_> (without reinstalling ubuntu) erase windows partitiona nd add it to ubuntu
[08:36] <LEO_> blizzle, without reinstalling? just delete and append space to ubuntu's partition?
[08:36] <mimiloon> hi everybody, i am new to linux and i'm having a problem with firestarter starting automatically; i've read the faqs on the firestarter's website
[08:36] <trippss> hello. audacious became totally unresponsive so I had to kill -9 the process. Now restarting it won't play any music, locally or streaming. likewise, vlc doesn't play anything. is there some other process I need to kill or restart to listen to music?
[08:36] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, I've got two options: Version 173, and Version 177 (Recommended). I've tried both, and both resulted in me getting frustrated when X freaked out, and format/reinstall.
[08:36] <blizzle> LEO_, Either append the space, or reclaim the partition for Ubuntu. Whichever suits. Append might be slightly trickier, but doable.
[08:36] <Aperture_Science> syockit, thanks. I'll take a look at that.
[08:37] <^aDaM> Good morning all :)
[08:37] <^aDaM> How are we?
[08:37] <quibbler> mimiloon: what is the problem
[08:37] <^aDaM> <|:o)
[08:37] <syockit> blizzle: can it resize backwards?
[08:37] <Tr3y-> ^aDam: can't sleep is how we all are I think :-P
[08:37] <yao_ziyuan> blizzle: using gufw i enabled tcp and udp 8887 but i2p still says udp 8887 is not open
[08:38] <blizzle> syockit, As long as the partitions are contiguous, shouldn't be a problem, I think.
[08:38] <svensko> Does anyone know where the C config file is for DWM in ubuntu?
[08:38] <Vadonon> anyone know if/when 8.04.2 is coming to Kubuntu and Xubuntu?
[08:38] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: I have an onboard 8200 and neither of those worked well for me.  What I had to do was remove all programs referencing nvidia by looking in synaptic. Then installing the latest nvidia driver I got from their site.. there is a specific way to do it.. if you don't follow it it'll mess things up again..
[08:38] <jim_p> does anyone know how kpackage is used?
[08:38] <blizzle> yao_ziyuan, Would those ports be on your router or the firewall? Perhaps i2p requires port forwarding from your router..?
[08:38] <mimiloon> i'm trying to open the sudoers file to edit, and it's telling me that i do not have permission to open this file and i'm logged in as admin
[08:38] <LEO_> blizzle, while running Live CD, it appears Graphics card or something else isnt working right, the portions of windows are left over the desktop, is this because it's live cd or some driver issue?
[08:38] <yao_ziyuan> blizzle: "WARN - Firewalled with Inbound TCP Enabled - You have configured inbound TCP, however      your UDP port is firewalled, and therefore it is likely that your TCP port is firewalled as well.      If your TCP port is firewalled with inbound TCP enabled, routers will not be able to contact      you via TCP, which will hurt the network. Please open your firewall or disable inbound TCP above.  "
[08:39] <jim_p> Vadonon, they are out. i think i saw a relevant article in DW
[08:39] <blizzle> LEO_, That's a driver issue.
[08:39] <yao_ziyuan> blizzle: how do i do port forwarding?
[08:39] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: I would not use envyng
[08:39] <quibbler> mimiloon: what has that to do with firestarter?
[08:39] <blizzle> yao_ziyuan, google for router port forwarding howto
[08:39] <tacone> how to disable the eth0 from the kernel ?
[08:39] <jim_p> yao_ziyuan, depending on your router, go to portforward.com
[08:39] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, I currently have no drivers installed aside from what's included with the ubuntu clean install, so I have the option of installing the nvidia driver from the site. Do you think you could walk me through it? I'm brand new to linux and the commands are all still very new to me.
[08:40] <jim_p> tacone, by recompiling it, but why would you want to do such damage?
[08:40] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: so you havent' tried either the 177 or 173?
[08:40] <blizzle> yao_ziyuan, Sounds like your firewall isn't correctly configured, still. Try restarting it, if you've created the necessary rules.
[08:40] <tacone> i've got a macbook, and eth0 causes 66% wakeups.
[08:41] <mimiloon> i got the info from this site: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php; it say to edit this file to bypass the password request
[08:41] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, No. I've tried them both, but both of them resulted in errors I couldn't resolve in xserver, which forced me to format the partition and reinstall ubuntu.
[08:41] <jim_p> tacone, disable its usage if you can be wireless only
[08:41] <tacone> jim_p: nice, how ?
[08:41] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: ok.. do you have a gui running that you can manouver in?
[08:41] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, yup
[08:41] <jim_p> tacone, what ubuntu version are you on?
[08:42] <tacone> jim_p: intrepid
[08:42] <prince_jammys> mimiloon: use 'sudo visudo'
[08:42] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: let me look up the link for the new driver. brb
[08:42] <jim_p> tacone, so i guess you will need network manager :( let me think
[08:42] <tacone> i obtained nothing with network manager. i guess it's a kernel bug, and shall be resolved at lower level
[08:42] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, would it happen to be NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run? If so, I've already taken the liberty of downloading it.
[08:43] <tacone> isn't there a way to unload the module for eth0 or stuff like that ?
[08:43] <svensko> how do i modify my sessions menu in the log in screen?
[08:43] <jim_p> tacone, are you sure its eth0 that is causing it and not network manager looking at eth0 and finding nothing there to connect?
[08:43] <mimiloon> prince_jammys: is that the file name because i'm completely lost
[08:43] <tacone> jim_p: mmmh
[08:43] <jim_p> tacone, sure, by blacklistting it, but you need to know tha module name
[08:43] <prince_jammys> mimiloon: no, visudo is a program that lets you edit /etc/sudoers safely
[08:43] <syockit> Aperture_Science: holy lawd
[08:44] <syockit> Aperture_Science: if you insist. http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t66203.html
[08:44] <tacone> jim_p: how to test if it's the network manager ? how do I bring it down ?
[08:44] <quibbler> mimiloon: if you wish to edit as root use    gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[08:44] <prince_jammys> mimiloon: it won't save the changes if the file is malformed, which is good. otherwise, if you make a mistake you can lose admin rights
[08:44] <tacone> jim_p: and how to know the module name? :-D
[08:44] <j_y> how do you install ubuntu 8.10 from 5.04?
[08:44] <LEO_> how long does it usualy take to resize the partition?
[08:44] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: yep that's the one.. ok.. go to System>Admin>Synaptic and "search" for nvidia
[08:45] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: what ever pops up as installed that pertains to nvidia, uninstall it.
[08:45] <Vadonon> only the default GNOME version is out for 8.04.2 :/ checked the mirrors and dw again
[08:45] <GreySim> Does anyone know if there's a reason you couldn't have a capitalized home directory? So, /home/Dennis instead of /home/dennis ?
[08:45] <Kelen> How to uninstall vmware workstation? any idea for this? plz.
[08:45] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, installed apps will have the box colored/checked yes?
[08:45] <syockit> j_y: I don't suppose there's a safe way to upgrade all the way. Best is to back up all your configurations and documents somewhere, and make a clean install
[08:46] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: yes
[08:46] <Scunizi> Kelen: #vmware
[08:47] <Kelen> Scunizi: How?
[08:47] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, should I also remove xserver-xorg-video-nv?
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <j_y> i downloaded the 8.10 version on my desktop since I don't have the cd
[08:47] <syockit> Aperture_Science: no. save that for fallback
[08:47] <prince_jammys> GreySim: why? are you having problems with that?
[08:47] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: no.. that's an opensource driver for nvidia and good for a backup
[08:47] <Aperture_Science> gotcha
[08:47] <Scunizi> syockit: you beat me :)
[08:47] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, smartdimmer, jockey-gtk?
[08:48] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: let me reference my synaptic
[08:48] <mimiloon> prince_jammys and quibbler: thanks for all your help, i'll try your suggestions
[08:48] <GreySim> prince_jammys: I'm not having a problem so far, but I didn't want to try it and screw everything up, but I suppose if I create another admin account a screwup shouldn't be that bad...thanks.
[08:48] <theonlyfox> I have is issue where im installing Ubuntu 8.10 for the first time (first time Linux User) and I cant get Grub to load in a dual boot situation where one OS is Vista on a Raid0 and Ubuntu is on a stand alone drive.
[08:48] <prince_jammys> GreySim: if you change your homedir, you just must ensure that the change is reflected in /etc/passwd.
[08:49] <mrgoodbar> i have been trying to install ubuntu 8.10 i have tried 5 different hard drives and after each install i reboot the pc and it says "disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter"
[08:49] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: no to both of those
[08:49] <mrgoodbar> what do i do
[08:49] <prince_jammys> GreySim: you can change your homedir to anything you want, with that provision
[08:49] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, Gotcha. Applying changes.
[08:49] <B|ackPanther> How can i locate the c++ source files in ubuntu ?
[08:49] <The_Spazzz> When I updated Ubuntu today on my laptop my wired connection now says "Unmanaged" I can connect wirelessly but trying to surf anywhere results in firefox saying Address Not Found.  I know its not my connection because all other machines work fine including the one i'm on now with the exact same software.  HELP!
[08:50] <GreySim> prince_jammys: Thanks a bunch. The lowercase is a minor annoyance, but I see it all the time, so... Yeah. Thanks. :)
[08:50] <houstond> anyone here familiar with running world of warcraft on ubuntu?
[08:50] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, Done.
[08:50] <GreySim> houstond: A little bit. In my case I had to turn down the graphics options a bunch versus running it on Windows on the same box, but it's totally doable with WINE.
[08:50] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: ok.. now the fun part.. 1st where did you save the download?
[08:50] <Mazali> syockit: how long should it take?
[08:51] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: desktop?
[08:51] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, Desktop, yes sir.
[08:51] <trippss> ugh incredibly frustrating that I have to restart linux to get my music to play. might as well be windows . . .
[08:51] <j_y> how can I install the 8.10 version which I downloaded on to my desktop?
[08:51] <theonlyfox> I need help getting Ubuntu going in a dual boot situation where 1 OS is Vista on Raid and the other is Ubuntu on stand alone drive.  Install goes fine w/ alternate CD and it even recognizes the raid and windows.  After the install though I cant get the drive w/ ubuntu and grub to load.
[08:52] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: ok.. here's the thing. you can't install the driver while the gui is running.. so you're going to learn a whole lot really quick.. no worries though.. I'll walk you through it.
[08:52] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: first open a termial.. Applications>Accessories>terminal
[08:52] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, already open.
[08:52] <Aperture_Science> :3
[08:53] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: type .. sudo apt-get install irssi screen
[08:53] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: and hit enter
[08:53] <jim_p> theonlyfox, is that raid on a raid card or on a mobo controller?
[08:54] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, already did that too. :3
[08:54] <theonlyfox> mobo fake raid
[08:54] <jim_p> theonlyfox, then thats why
[08:54] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: really? wow.  ok  type screen
[08:54] <Jippen> I am having an issue with my ubuntu laptop. I shut it down this morning after making some fstab changes, and now it only boots into read-only mode. How do I make the root partition read/write so I can revert the fstab changes? Also of note: the root partition is encfs over lvm
[08:54] <jim_p> does anyone know how kpackage is used?
[08:54] <theonlyfox> jim_p, you lost me on that one.  please explain
[08:55] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, okay. I hit enter on the confirmation screen and I'm at a blank terminal with my prompt.
[08:55] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: now ctrl+a then shift+s
[08:55] <jim_p> Jippen, pastebin your fstab
[08:55] <syockit> Mazali: updating takes a long time, especially for slow internet
[08:55] <Aperture_Science> Now it says 0 bash halfway down the terminal screen.
[08:55] <syockit> Mazali: *updating from clean install
[08:55] <Jippen> That'll take me a bit. The laptop isn't getting online, so I get to do it by hand.
[08:56] <G-Blunted> !fstab
[08:56] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: Now it says 0 bash halfway down the terminal screen.
[08:56] <G-Blunted> !initrd
[08:56] <syockit> Aperture_Science: yes, so you're logged in?
[08:56] <jim_p> theonlyfox, you have software raid, which means that in vista the os does the raid array to whatever you have. in linux they are just 2 seperate drives
[08:56] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: except you're still in the window with the terminal prompt right?
[08:56] <Aperture_Science> I believe so, yes.
[08:56] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: ok.. type irssi
[08:57] <G-Blunted> anyone know the difference between an Internet Object Cache (WWW Cache) and a Full featured Web Proxy cache (HTTP Cache)??
[08:57] <glados_> Scunizi: Here I am. :3
[08:57] <Scunizi> glados = Aperture_Science ?
[08:57] <glados_> Scunizi: Yes.
[08:57] <zxd> hi
[08:57] <The_Spazzz> When I updated Ubuntu today on my laptop my wired connection now says "Unmanaged" I can connect wirelessly but trying to surf anywhere results in firefox saying Address Not Found.  I know its not my connection because all other machines work fine including the one i'm on now with the exact same software.  HELP!
[08:57] <theonlyfox> jim_p, thats what ive read... but the 8.10 Alternate CD fixes that apparently.  It reconized my Raid array as a single drive and even detected the correct windows OS on it.  I installed Ubuntu on a stand alone drive enven though i could have repartitioned my raid and installed it next to windows.  My problem is that I cannot boot to this second drive.
[08:58] <MikeMaxwell2501> hey all, anyone aware of a good mp3 to mp4 converter??
[08:58] <Scunizi> glados_: this obviously isn't your first day at this.. :)
[08:58] <Jippen> http://pastebin.com/m2caa15e3
[08:58] <glados_> Scunizi: I've got friends with linux, and know a few very basic commands (I observe)
[08:58] <jim_p> theonlyfox, this could be a grub problem
[08:58] <zxd> I am looking into migrating from debian to ubuntu , is there documentation that explains how ubuntu uses debian ?
[08:58] <Scunizi> glados_: ok.. now ctrl+a then TAB
[08:59] <glados_> Scunizi: Yay! I can switch screens that way. :3
[08:59] <Scunizi> glados_: yes from the top to the bottom and back
[08:59] <trippss> ugh restarted and back to listening to music. lost 30 minutes of productivity with that nonsense. so fricking irritating. linux should be better than that.
[08:59] <jim_p> theonlyfox, i have to leave now :( i hope i have helped
[09:00] <Scunizi> glados_: now that you're in the bottom ctrl+a then ctrl+c
[09:00] <jim_p> bye
[09:00] <theonlyfox> jim_p, thats what im thinking.  When I point my bios to that drive to boot it hangs after the bios checks for bootable cd's but never give any kind of OS missing or failed msg.  Im not so sure that the installer isnt trying to set up Grub on the raid array which would be a mistake, yet there is no option to install it anywhere else
[09:00] <glados_> Scunizi: what does that do?
[09:00] <theonlyfox> bleh
[09:00] <MikeMaxwell2501> hey all, anyone aware of a good mp3 to mp4 converter??
[09:00] <Scunizi> glados_: if that doesn't give you a terminal prompt then just ctrl+a then c..  it should give a terminal prompt
[09:00] <Jippen> Anyone else willing/able to help with my mounting issue?
[09:01] <Jippen> mike: audacity if you only have to do a few
[09:01] <Scunizi> glados_: got it?
[09:01] <glados_> Scunizi: There we go, got me a terminal prompt. Somehow shifted irssi to the bottom, but I have the terminal prompt on top now.
[09:01] <MikeMaxwell2501> Jippen: audacity oes not support mp4
[09:01] <MikeMaxwell2501> already looked into that :)
[09:02] <theonlyfox> I need a Grub expert to help me with a problem.
[09:02] <Jippen> Sorry, I'm stuck in a terminal on my ubuntu machine, so its a lil hard to check GUI apps. ~.~
[09:02] <G-Blunted> your best bet is google
[09:02] <G-Blunted> google is expert on lots of things
[09:02] <Scunizi> glados_: ok.. now ctrl+a then d and you'll have to talk to me with Aperture_Science
[09:02] <theonlyfox> expert as alot misdirection too
[09:02] <MikeMaxwell2501> Jippen: lol, thanks.  tried sound converter and audacity, nothing
[09:03] <G-Blunted> naahhh not google...
[09:03] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, okay. Got it.
[09:03] <Jippen> I am having an issue with my ubuntu laptop. I shut it down this morning after making some fstab changes, and now it only boots into read-only mode. How do I make the root partition read/write so I can revert the fstab changes? Also of note: the root partition is encfs over lvm. /etc/fstab is here-> http://pastebin.com/m2caa15e3
[09:03] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: should have made the terminal detach
[09:03] <Guest42414> ouch
[09:03] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: did everthing pretty much go away?
[09:03] <breakdown> wipe
[09:03] <[CHN]_Abbey> Is there a guide of Ubuntu 8.10 for Chinese? THX
[09:03] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, I think so.. I made irssi detatch. I've got a whole terminal screen with the command prompt now.
[09:04] <Jippen> Abbey: /join #ubuntu-cn for some help in chinese.
[09:04] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: now in the termial type screen -ls .. it will show you the screen session.. the first part of the name is a number . when you see that type screen -r <number> and it will reattach
[09:04] <[CHN]_Abbey> Jippen: thank you very much.
[09:04] <Fiftyone> hello if someone can help me i would be most gratefuk. I think i might have destroied my computer if you could please check my post on the ubuntu forums www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6703360#post6703360
[09:04] <zxd> what's the difference between ubuntu desktop edition and Xubuntu ?
[09:05] <Jippen> zxd: The gui
[09:05] <blizzle> zxd: Ubuntu uses Gnome, Xubuntu uses Xfce.
[09:05] <Fiftyone> Im such a moron i think im going to kill myself if i cant fix this
[09:05] <prince_jammys> !de | zxd
[09:05] <theonlyfox> G-Blunted, besides 5hrs of google searching has turned up zip and also failed to say what couldnt be done (via thousands of sites and posts) can now be done in the new 8.10
[09:05] <prince_jammys> zxd: oops
[09:05] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: if you have a scratch pad handy write the number down and "screen -ls" and "screen -r <number>"
[09:05] <zxd> blizzle, ubuntu desktop uses gnome?
[09:05] <blizzle> zxd, Also, Xubuntu has a slightly different selection of default apps, which tend to me more lightweight than their Gnome counterparts.
[09:06] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, got it.
[09:06] <LEO_> I get "no root file system is defined error when I try to install ubuntu on afree partition
[09:06] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: also ctrl+a TAB to change from top to bottom..
[09:06] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: starting to make sense?
[09:06] <Aperture_Science> Kinda....
[09:06] <Fiftyone> Ok i have an eeepc 100H with a 160 gb hard drive. It came with windows xp and was stupidly formated with windows on an 80 gb partition c and a 80gb partition d .i installed ubuntu on partition d and allocated 30 gb for it. figureing that i could just resize the windows partition with qparted later on. I left it as it was for over a month then i started to run out of space so i decided to try and format the qindows drive because i didnt use windows Once 
[09:06] <prince_jammys> !desktop > zxd
[09:06] <zxd> can i use any ver of ubuntu to create a minimal netinst ubuntu installation ?
[09:06] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: ok.. write this down Ctrl+alt+F7 = gui
[09:07] <zxd> or a minimal installation in a chroot environment
[09:07] <zxd> ok
[09:07] <howtoo> I'm looking for an incremental backup system for desktop use. any recommendations?
[09:07] <prince_jammys> zxd: do you even need a desktop environment?
[09:07] <Jippen> 51> Looks like the partitions are pretty borked. You can probably load the system via a livecd, copy stuff to another system over the network, or a USB harddrive, and reinstall ubuntu
[09:07] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, written down!
[09:07] <Mazali> syockit: it works now, thank you
[09:08] <Fiftyone> jippen how would i do that?
[09:08] <Jippen> howtoo> I use dropbox for my backups. win/lin/mac, and backs up to 2 gigs online. Not exactly an incremental backup solution, but it gets the critical stuff
[09:08] <Fiftyone> Jippen you think the data is still there?
[09:08] <Fiftyone> Jippen you think the data is still there?
[09:09] <Jippen> 51> Well, the first two steps are a: make sure you have a place to copy data to, with enough room, and b: make sure you have a bootable disc handy
[09:09] <blizzle> Fiftyone, You might want to take a look at the Easy Peasy distro (formerly Eeebuntu).
[09:09] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: ok.. here we go.. first in the terminal do a ctrl+a d to detach.  Now what you going to do is ctrl+alt+F2 and when you get a terminal prompt then us screen -r <number> to reattach and then ctrl+a tab to get to the irssi portion and let me know you are there.
[09:09] <syockit> Mazali: it doesn't work with the other guy. lucky you
[09:09] <Jippen> 51> I have no idea. grub error 22 can be a minor issue, or the harddrive is totally fried.
[09:09] <Mazali> hehehe :-)
[09:09] <zxd> prince_jammys, i don't want default packages , i do need xfce
[09:10] <prince_jammys> zxd: ah, ok. then install xubuntu
[09:10] <Fiftyone> blizzle yea i was useing the easypc kernel on my install
[09:10] <Flynsarmy> Where is hte apt cache stored?
[09:10] <eoke> Ubuntu 8.10 (2.6.24-23-generic), Snort (2.8.3.) and libpcap (0.8): When I block traffic with IPTables it doesn't seem to be seen by Snort where as from what I've read libpcap should see the traffic pre filtering. Could any one give me a clue as to what the issue might be? (already asked in #Snort but they're not up yet)
[09:10] <Jippen> I am having an issue with my ubuntu laptop. I shut it down this morning after making some fstab changes, and now it only boots into read-only mode. How do I make the root partition read/write so I can revert the fstab changes? Also of note: the root partition is encfs over lvm. /etc/fstab is here-> http://pastebin.com/m2caa15e3
[09:10] <blizzle> Flynsarmy, /var/cache/apt
[09:10] <theonlyfox> I need a Grub expert that is familiar with 8.10 raid install issues
[09:11] <prince_jammys> Flynsarmy: man apt-cache, FILES section
[09:11] <blizzle> Flynsarmy, rm -fv /var/cache/apt/*.bin if you need to remove it.
[09:11] <Jippen> fox> post the issue, and I'll see if I can actually help
[09:11] <jonathan__> #hyves h7v3s
[09:11] <howtoo> Jippen, yeah, I'm using that as well, but I need a full backup of my entire computer
[09:11] <glados_> Scunizi: Got it.
[09:11] <glados_> Scunizi: Hey. My MP3's are still playing. Neat.
[09:11] <blizzle> Flynsarmy, You'd then need to follow through with an apt-get update
[09:11] <Scunizi> glados_: congrats.. you're becoming "well versed"
[09:12] <Jippen> howtoo> Full backups are easy, incremental is a bit harder
[09:12] <Scunizi> glados_: not for long.. in the other window with the terminal prompt type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:12] <howtoo> jupp
[09:12] <g33k_gir1> this is going to be the mother of all stupid questions, but how do I tell if I have a LAMP environment installed?
[09:12] <Jippen> Would you be backing up to a tape, a harddrive, dvds, or remotely? Or something else?
[09:12] <prince_jammys> Flynsarmy: ok, looks like i'm wrong.
[09:13] <blizzle> g33k_gir1, If you have Apache, MySql and Php installed an functioning correctly, running on Linux, you have the Lamp stack installed.
[09:13] <theonlyfox> Jippen, I installed 8.10 on a system that is running vista on a mobo fake raid0 and a secondary HD.  I used the alternate install CD and it detected the array and the correct windows install.  Instead of installing on the raid I installed on the secondary.  After the install I point my bios to boot from the sendary HD.  Problem is that is will never boot, hangs after BIOS checks for cd's.
[09:13] <Jippen> g33k > point firefox to 127.0.0.1 and see if apache works. Then try setting up a php script with the contents <?php phpinfo(); ?> to see if php works
[09:14] <Scunizi> glados_: get it?
[09:14] <glados_> Scunizi: Alright. Yeah, music is stopped now.
[09:14] <theonlyfox> Jippen, Im guessing that grub was not installed on the sendary HD thus has no way of loading the OS.  I know the install is there since I can boot to windows and see the files
[09:14] <glados_> Scunizi: Along with GNOME
[09:14] <Fiftyone> jipper can i load ubuntu live from usb? I installed ubuntu origionally but i dont know if i was given the option to boot into live from usb. Also, when i get back in how do i locate and copy the data if it dosent gave a partition how do i get to it?
[09:14] <syockit> Fiftyone: depends on your pc's bios
[09:14] <g33k_gir1> blizzle, Jippen: 127.0.0.1 works (or at least, I get a blank page, not an error)
[09:14] <Scunizi> glados_: that confirms that the gui isn't running.  ok at the terminal prompt window type cd ~/Desktop
[09:15] <Jippen> Oy, oy... one at a time.
[09:15] <blizzle> g33k_gir1, Then you at least have Apache running.
[09:15] <g33k_gir1> blizzle, Jippen: settting up php script now
[09:15] <blizzle> g33k_gir1, Well, one assumes Apache.
[09:15] <Jippen> fox> Is the linux HD part of the raid?
[09:15] <theonlyfox> Jippen, no
[09:15] <Scunizi> glados_: then once you're there type ls to get a list of files.. let me know what the last 3 letters on the nvidia driver are.
[09:15] <glados_> Scunizi: No such directory. o.O
[09:15] <Jippen> 51> Yes, you can load live USB. However, you still need to have someplace for the files to go. Do you have that?
[09:16] <Scunizi> glados_: type cd ~/Desktop .. no spaces.. and with a capital D
[09:16] <etech> hi
[09:16] <glados_> Scunizi: Nevermind, I'm silly, case sensitive.
[09:16] <Fiftyone> Jippen Yea i have a 100gb usb disk
[09:16] <etech> in the ubuntu kernel are different closed source drivers...
[09:16] <Jippen> fox> So, does it boot into windows, but not linux?
[09:16] <etech> what are these drivers?
[09:16] <blizzle> glados_, Tab completion helps.
[09:16] <Jippen> 51> ok, get into the live usb system, and I'll help you from there
[09:17] <g33k_gir1> blizzle, Jippen: ok, so in Firefox, php files are asking to be saved as...
[09:17] <theonlyfox> It will boot to windows if I point the bios to load from the Raid, but If i point it at the stand alone drive it hangs as described earlier
[09:17] <glados_> blizzle: Thanks for the tip! I use it all the time in IRC. :3
[09:17] <Fiftyone> alrighty thanks
[09:17] <Scunizi> glados_: yep works at terminal too.
[09:17] <glados_> Scunizi: Last three letters are .run
[09:17] <Jippen> g33k > sounds like apache is misbehaving. Did you follow a guide to set up your LAMP box?
[09:17] <blizzle> g33k_gir1, Then Php isn't correctly installed. At least, not properly integrated with Apache.
[09:17] <g33k_gir1> blizzle: just found the ubuntu help page on that -- will follow up and get back to you :)
[09:18] <Scunizi> glados_: ok.. in the terminal window type.. sudo sh ./<file name .run .. you can use tab to complete the name :)
[09:18] <glados_> Scunizi: Okay. Wish me luck!
[09:18] <Scunizi> glados_: luck!
[09:18] <Jippen> fox> keep bios pointed at the raid. When it boots into that, does GRUB pop up, or does it go straight into windows?
[09:18] <theonlyfox> Jippen, goes straight to windows
[09:19] <Jippen> did you point the bios at the extra hd to install linux?
[09:19] <theonlyfox> Jippen, no
[09:19] <Jippen> Did you use the live cd, alternate cd, or did you use the Wubi installer?
[09:20] <theonlyfox> Jippen, alternate cd
[09:20] <glados_> Scunizi: Done! I assumed we would be agreeing to all install options, etc. YeS?
[09:20] <Scunizi> glados_: yep..
[09:20] <Jippen> Can you use the live cd to examine the partitions, and make sure things look sane?
[09:20] <lain_wired> hiya all. I'm working with a new box with a dual core processor. I've heard people have had some driver issues with 64bit ubuntu, and ubuntu 32bit seems fine with 4GB of ram so i guess the only question is - is it a waste to use 32 on a 64 bit system?
[09:20] <Scunizi> glados_: ok.. you're going to loose irc and everything now.. come back and let me know how it went.. type sudo reboot now
[09:21] <glados_> Scunizi: Will do. Be right back! :3
[09:21] <eoke> Ubuntu 8.10 (2.6.24-23-generic), Snort (2.8.3.) and libpcap (0.8): When I block traffic with IPTables its seen by TCPDump but not by snort and from what I've read Snort should also see the traffic pre filtering. Could any one give me a clue as to what the issue might be? (already asked in #Snort but they're not up yet)
[09:21] <Jippen> lain> IMHO, it is a waste to use 64 bit on a system that is not using >4 gigs of ram. You should be just fine.
[09:21] <Jippen> I am having an issue with my ubuntu laptop. I shut it down this morning after making some fstab changes, and now it only boots into read-only mode. How do I make the root partition read/write so I can revert the fstab changes? Also of note: the root partition is encfs over lvm. /etc/fstab is here-> http://pastebin.com/m2caa15e3
[09:22] <unknown__> hi, anyone can recommend me any software for burning CD which allows me to  create bootable CD? I must do this from folder with files not from ISO image :/
[09:22] <theonlyfox> Jippen, Ill have to burn it.  will take a moment.  So far have only used a utility that lets me access the linux partition under windows.  unfortunately I know Jack about linus and grub and well Jack left town years ago.
[09:22] <quibbler> lain_wired: not a waste...and it will save you some headaches
[09:22] <g33k_gir1> lain_wired: I haven't had any problems with my 64 bit system
[09:23] <zxd> what's the name of the current stable?
[09:23] <zxd> IntrepidIbex ?
[09:23] <fosco_> unknown__: k3b is the most complete burning software i know
[09:23] <suigeneris> zxd, yes
[09:23] <G-Blunted> i think you have to burn an iso to make bootable
[09:23] <glados_> Scunizi: No go.
[09:23] <Jippen> unknown> bootable CDs need special steps to be bootable. You will likely need to use a tool to convert the folder of files into a burnable ISO.
[09:23] <G-Blunted> i don't think you can like...burn a bootable cd really
[09:23] <zxd> suigeneris, it's also the name of the repository ?
[09:23] <Scunizi> glados_: ok.. are you at terminal?
[09:24] <lain_wired> g33k_gir1: ah, even with fairly good graphics and sound cards? (it'd be a shame too not use them to their full capacity)
[09:24] <glados_> Scunizi: No GUI available.
[09:24] <suigeneris> how can i find out the total size of the files i grab with find?
[09:24] <suigeneris> zxd, repo name is just intrepid
[09:24] <glados_> Scunizi: So yeah, I'm in terminal, already screen'd split, and ready to detach.
[09:24] <Scunizi> glados_: did it just give a blank screen or right to a terminal prompt
[09:24] <zxd> suigeneris, thanks
[09:24] <unknown__> fosco_: Thanks I'll try it :)
[09:25] <glados_> Scunizi: Went right to terminal prompt
[09:26] <Scunizi> glados_: ok.. in the other half of the split.. type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and in there look for the line that says SERVER and make sure that it says nvidia and not vesa or nv or intel
[09:26] <theonlyfox> Jippen, burning the Live CD now.  Is there anything that could be looked at to see if Grub even installed on one of the drives while im waiting?
[09:27] <Jippen> fox> Yeah. There is a great tool I love. I call it the ubuntu live cd. :3
[09:27] <trippss> how do I configure my laptop with 512 MB RAM so that it does progressive/aggressive write behinds? I'm tired of it taking forever to swap things in and out when it's not necessary. I end up killing the app anyway because I simply don't have the patience. only write stuff when shutting down or when completely idle and under a certain load average.
[09:27] <theonlyfox> Jippen, lulz.. ok ill have it here in a Jip.. no phun intended
[09:29] <prodigel> hi all. I'm trying to configure ssl module for apache2 following this link http://beginlinux.com/blog/2009/01/ssl-on-ubuntu-810-apache2/ and I get this error: ... "Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long".
[09:29] <trippss> i'm running Ibex btw
[09:29] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: gumby dat shit
[09:30] <Giggles> MeVsTheVoices: Deliver'd you a hair on's head.
[09:30] <glados_> Scunizi: I didn't find a specific line that said "server", but I did see several entries that read "nvidia", and not vesa, nv, intel
[09:30] <tamimi>  8-)
[09:30] <theonlyfox> Jippen, ok, ive booted to the live cd
[09:30] <Scunizi> glados_: ok.. try installing nvidia-settings.. sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[09:31] <Jippen> ok, first thing to do is use the gnome partitioning tool to examine how the partitions are set up. Make sure the settings are what you expect them to be
[09:31] <stinger_au> Hello
[09:31] <glados_> Scunizi: Done
[09:31] <Scunizi> glados_: k. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:31] <stinger_au> Anyone got a A8n-SLI motherboard or CK804 onboard audio ?
[09:32] <Jippen> HELP NEEDED: How do I force the root partition of an encrypted LVM to read/write mode, so I can edit /etc/fstab?
[09:32] <glados_> Scunizi: Said it was starting GNOME desktop manager, but no GUI load.
[09:32] <etech> when i install selinux, is it configured autumatically?
[09:32] <glados_> Scunizi: I.E. I'm still in terminal
[09:33] <Scunizi> glados try ctrl+alt+F7
[09:33] <theonlyfox> Jippen, how do i get the partitioning tool to run from the cd?
[09:33] <Jippen> etech> Somewhat. It comes with some defaults, but to get full use of it, you have to know how to deal with selinux
[09:33] <Jippen> fox> Should be in the applications menu
[09:33] <blizzle> theonlyfox, Or sudo gparted
[09:34] <theonlyfox> Jippen, I have "Try Ubuntu.." "Install Ubuntu"  " chec cd..." "test mem" and "boot from first HD"
[09:34] <Jippen> try ubuntu
[09:35] <Scunizi> glados_: what happened?
[09:35] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: No GUI. Just a blank screen with cursor.
[09:35] <trippss> is it possible to see what process is thrashing the hard drive? whether it's an app or swap or what is going on? every now and again the hd light just comes on and is pegged for a couple of minutes even though I'm doing nothing and nothing is going on
[09:36] <Milk_Rulz> why is my music not playing in my media players when other sounds are working?
[09:36] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: did you have one of the drivers still loaded in System>Admin>hardware drivers when we started this?
[09:36] <Aperture_Science> I don't believe so. I uninstalled everything related to "nvidia" in Synaptic, aside from what you instructed me not to.
[09:37] <g33k_gir1> ok, so I have phpmyadmin installed, but I can't find it (at least, its not in /var/www/)
[09:37] <Sergeant_Pony> I need xforms to get a program to compile... how do I get it?
[09:37] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: k.. go back to sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the reference to nvidia to nv
[09:38] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: How would I do that?
[09:38] <Jippen> g33k_girl> TBH, I tend to grab webapps from the net and set them up myself. Then I know where they are, and can be sure I have the latest version
[09:39] <Scunizi> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and use the arrow keys to move around.. get to where it says nvidia and use the delete or bkspace key to eliminate it and type in nv (lower casee)
[09:39] <Jippen> http://localhost/phpmyadmin <-- that is worth a try too
[09:39] <g33k_gir1> Jippen: so I should just reinstall it :)
[09:39] <g33k_gir1> Jippen: OMG, that works
[09:39] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: do I do this for all instances of "nvidia"?
[09:40] <g33k_gir1> Jippen: i thought only what was in var/www/ would work under localhost... thanks
[09:40] <Jippen> Nope. Webservers are fun like that.
[09:40] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: hang on .. let me look at mine
[09:41] <g33k_gir1> lain_wired: i must admit, i did not get any uber gfx cards with that system
[09:41] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: only in the "Section "Device" " where it says Driver
[09:42] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: Got it. Doing now
[09:42] <lain_wired> g33k_gir1: mm. i wouldn't mind, because i kinda enjoy the challenge involved, but this person (my dad actually) hasn't ever used linux before and i want this to go well.
[09:42] <g33k_gir1> er... ok, so now I've forgotten what the root login and password would be for mysql -- any way to look that up?
[09:42] <banisterfiend> g33k_gir1: if you go down on me ill help you out
[09:42] <whiteplane> hi, how to disable the automounting of newly connected devices?
[09:42] <blizzle> banisterfiend, Leave that out, please.
[09:43] <learning-regex> when installing a program from source do I always have to use the make install command or is make enogh? why is that?
[09:43] <g33k_gir1> lain_wired: well, the ubuntu install is pretty easy, why not try the 64-bit, if it doesn't play nice, reinstall with 32-bit
[09:43] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: then when it's done Ctrl+o (that's oh) and enter then ctrl+x to exit. . now sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:43] <banisterfiend> blizzle: sorry im just learning how to relate to females on the internet
[09:43] <Jippen> g33k> google "How to reset mysql root password"
[09:43] <blizzle> banisterfiend, Sounds like you're learning nothing at all. Or the wrong thing. :/
[09:43] <g33k_gir1> clearly, related to females at all would be a better place to start
[09:44] <g33k_gir1> so, lets not feed the troll. Jippen: thanks, will do
[09:44] <banisterfiend> blizzle: are you saying i should treat them as equals or what
[09:44] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: Kay. .conf modified. Restarting now.
[09:44] <blizzle> banisterfiend, I don't recall echoing that sentiment, but yes, gender is largely irrelevant in a tech support channel.
[09:45] <theonlyfox> Jippen, ok i have 500GB on /dev/sdc1 as ext2 and flagged as boot and /dev/sdc2 as 7GB extended and 500GB unallocated
[09:45] <Jippen> bizzle> just set him on ignore
[09:45] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: Now Ctrl-Alt-F7?
[09:45] <banisterfiend> blizzle: but what if i cant get over the fact that they have tits and ass and i cant restrain myself from making a sexual comment
[09:45] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: sure..
[09:45] <blizzle> Jippen, He's here to learn, so better to provide him with some guidance :)
[09:46] <blizzle> banisterfiend, Then you might want to locate yourself elsewhere.
[09:46] <ct529>  does anyone know of a good sip phone under ubuntu that can record phone calls as well?
[09:46] <Jippen> fox> can you mount /dev/sdc1 and see if it has /boot ?
[09:46] <Jippen> blizzle> He is obviously a troll, here to get his jollies by offending others.
[09:46] <Scunizi> ct529: gizmo will. free but not opensource
[09:47] <Aperture_Science> Nothing, Scunizi
[09:47] <blizzle> Jippen, Sadly I think you're right. Nonetheless, perhaps he'll take a hint.
[09:47] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: you'll loose irc but try ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:48] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: I didn't lose IRC, nothing happened.
[09:48] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: is this card an onboard card or seperately mounted?
[09:49] <Aperture_Science> Seperately mounted.
[09:49] <ct529> Scunizi: nothing opensource?
[09:49] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: does the machine have an onboard video card too?
[09:49] <Scunizi> ct529: not that I'm aware of
[09:49] <theonlyfox> Jippen, may have to explain how to mount.  Found terminal and mount shows currently mounted volumes, but mount /dev/sdc1 gives a "cant find" dialogue
[09:49] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: No sir. I'm afraid not.
[09:50] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: just a sec
[09:50] <Jippen> fox> sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[09:50] <ddoom> If i stop a service (sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop) and I restart, does it restart or will it still be stopped?
[09:50] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: I've got two of them in SLI configuration. If necessary, I can rip out my second card as it's not doing anything right now.
[09:51] <Scunizi> type .. less /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there are any errors listed in there.
[09:51] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know anything about xforms?
[09:51] <ddoom> If i stop a service (sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop) and I restart the computer*, does the service restart or will it still be stopped?
[09:51] <ronny> hi
[09:51] <Jippen> ddoom> the service restarts
[09:51] <ronny> is there any sane way to get rid of pulseaudio
[09:51] <syockit> ddoom: it only stops for the session
[09:52] <ronny> if i try to remove the alsa plugins, i wants to remove shitloads of packages
[09:52] <Jippen> ronny > apt-get remove pulseaudio & apt-get install alsa
[09:52] <riz0n> anyone here have any experience with ircd-hybrid on ubuntu?
[09:52] <ronny> Jippen: that wont remove the alsa plugins pulse leaves around
[09:52] <ddoom> how can I configure a service to stop until I want it not to (through restarts etc)
[09:53] <ronny> so i get connection errors
[09:53] <IINB3> excuse me .. What is the TSV and TSER at TCP section captured on wireshark ?
[09:53] <riz0n> i have a small irc conferencing server set up using irc-hybrid and ubuntu
[09:53] <theonlyfox> Jippen, ok it shows as mounted using the mount cmd but does not show up in file browser
[09:53] <riz0n> the number of clients to my server will be between 5 to 10 users
[09:53] <Jippen> pulse is not alsa. If you are talking alsa -> pulse compatibility stuff, then apt-get autoremove should clear them out when pulse is gone
[09:53] <Jippen> fox> no files when you navigate to /mnt ?
[09:53] <Sergeant_Pony> riz0n, I use unreal ircd
[09:54] <g33k_gir1> *gasp* -- I didn't set ANY password on mysql! bad girl!
[09:54] <ronny> Jippen: it wont
[09:54] <riz0n> Sergeant_Pony how hard is it to set up on Ubuntu?
[09:54] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: did you happen to notice any errors on install of the driver?
[09:54] <ronny> Jippen: i removed pulseaudio and intalled alsa + did an autoremove
[09:54] <Sergeant_Pony> riz0n, was very easy, took me less than 2 minutes
[09:54] <ronny> Jippen: still i get errors about pulse
[09:55] <theonlyfox> Jippen, ah ok it was named mnt..  ls shows /boot
[09:55] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: No sir.
[09:55] <Sergeant_Pony> riz0n, very easy, took me less than 2 minues
[09:55] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: But there was a few errors in the log.
[09:55] <Jippen> go into /mnt/boot. Does it have a grub folder?
[09:55] <riz0n> Sergeant_Pony: does it allow you to set modes in channels as an irc op but not an operator in the chan?
[09:55] <theonlyfox> Jippen, yes
[09:55] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: "Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)"
[09:55] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: And "No devices detected"
[09:55] <Jippen> can you pastebin /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst for me?
[09:56] <Sergeant_Pony> riz0n, that I'm not sure... I'm an ircop so I have full control
[09:56] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: ok.. try this.. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:56] <ronny> Jippen: ok, i also killed libpulse0, and now alsa wont work cause it lacks the pulse plugin thats configured somewhere
[09:56] <Jippen> probably /etc/asound
[09:56] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: done.
[09:57] <riz0n> Sergeant_Pony: right, well the problem i had with ircd-hybrid was that when i was an oper, it would not let me set modes in channels (for instance if i joined a channel with no ops i could not op myself or anyone else)
[09:57] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: then cd ~/Desktop .. then sudo sh ./<nvidia driver name.run . to reinstall
[09:57] <Jippen> Why do you want pule off, though
[09:57] <theonlyfox> Jippen, pastebin :command not found
[09:57] <ronny> Jippen: there is no /etc/asound
[09:57] <ronny> Jippen: cause it doesnt work
[09:57] <Jippen> fox> http://www.pastebin.org
[09:57] <banisterfiend> g33k_gir1: yes, *bad girl* (i like that term, very kinky)
[09:57] <banisterfiend> should constant definitions be put in header files  or in the source?
[09:57] <learning-regex> can I always do the make install command when installing programs from source? If not why?
[09:57] <ddoom> how can I make a service stop and not start on boot?
[09:58] <ronny> Jippen: some tools list my sound devices, others dont and i get no sound + no clue what the heck is wrong
[09:58] <Sergeant_Pony> riz0n, what are you looking for exactly, when I'm an ircop I have full control. so I can op myself and others if need be.
[09:58]  * Vadonon tests
[09:58] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: Alright done.
[09:58] <riz0n> i just want to be able to op/deop set/unset bans without being a channel op while being an irc op
[09:59] <Sergeant_Pony> riz0n, that I can do with unreal
[09:59] <riz0n> my irc server will never carry more than 5 to 10 people in a channel at a time... i cant see justifying setting up "services" for this server
[09:59] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: I'd shut down completely this time.. then start back up . sudo shutdown -P now
[09:59] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi: Alright. I'll be back in a moment with results.
[10:00] <riz0n> basically the irc server is only bound to 127.0.0.1 and the end users will be sshing to the irc server and then running irssi to connect to the irc server
[10:00] <ozzloy> how do i inhibit the gnome screen saver in c++?
[10:00] <ronny> Jippen: my basic issue is that no program can connect to pulse
[10:00] <riz0n> this way all connecting clients is guaranteed a layer of ssl encryption when chatting through the system
[10:00] <ozzloy> is there an api for that?
[10:00] <Sergeant_Pony> riz0n, ok.. take a look at unreal. as long as your in the unrealircd.conf file as the ircop it should work out for you.
[10:01] <riz0n>  kewl
[10:01] <ronny> hmm
[10:01] <riz0n> Sergeant_Pony: can you set up unreal to automatically force a user to join a channel upon connect?
[10:02] <IINB3> hey..guys  what is mean TSV and TSER on TCP ?
[10:02] <unknown__> friends, one more question... how can I check in ISO image which files are in bootsector ?
[10:02] <ronny> unknown__: bootsectors do not have any files
[10:03] <unknown__> ronny: so this part which makes CD bootable..
[10:03] <theonlyfox> Jippen, www.pastebin.org is a dead stick
[10:03] <ronny> unknown__: so you want to take a look at the eltorino image?
[10:03] <Jippen> fox> a what now?
[10:04] <ronny> hmm
[10:04] <elky> g33k_gir1, sorry i took so long
[10:04] <ronny> i dont remember where it is located on the cd
[10:04] <glados_> Scunizi: No such luck. I did spot some errors while GDM was starting, but I wasn't able to go back to them.
[10:04] <G-Blunted> I wanna enable people to connect to my Xubuntu box and do some anonymous web browsing...anyone done this before?
[10:04] <glados_> Scunizi: Got a way to access that log?
[10:04] <theonlyfox> Jippen, the web site is unreachable
[10:04] <PodMan99a> hey all ... i have a HPdl380 G3 ... 6x73gb disks ... all configured in one bigass raid 5 array... trying to install intrepid... once installed it reboots (/ using all bar 4gb for swap) and sites saying "attempting boot from hard drive" and does notthing at all?? any ideas?
[10:05] <Jippen> fox> is google.com reachable?
[10:05] <theonlyfox> Jippen, yes
[10:05] <Scunizi> glados_: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:05] <Jippen> g-blunted> So, you want to set up a proxy server?
[10:05] <G-Blunted> ya but what kind?
[10:05] <glados_> Scunizi: One sec.
[10:05] <Jippen> whoops! pastebin.com
[10:05] <theonlyfox> Jippen, heh
[10:05] <G-Blunted> there's so many ways to configure squid and stuff....i don't know which direction i need for the most simple just...proxying...
[10:06] <Jippen> g-blunted set up a socks4/5 proxy server, and turn off all logging on the program. Google is your friend.
[10:06] <ronny> hmm
[10:06] <G-Blunted> squid is a socks proxy right?
[10:06] <Scunizi> glados.. sudo apt-get install pastebinit then pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log and paste the link here
[10:06] <Jippen> I don't think so
[10:06] <garrett__> Im totally lost and annoyed I have read the manual on pbm2g3 attemtping to send a fax via my external modem and I can not for thge life of me create a g3 faxable file
[10:07] <carpii> anyone know where i can find the font "Meta Bold Roman"? Its the same one as used in the firefox logo
[10:07] <G-Blunted> what kind of proxy is squid?
[10:07] <garrett__> How do I create a g3 file so I can fax it?
[10:07] <theonlyfox> Jippen, ok how do i copy over the contents of the menu.lst from the terminal to the pastebin website
[10:07] <Jippen> sudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:07] <unknown__> ronny: I know that's not topic for this channel, but I'm trying since yesterday install vista for friend... I was forced to  download vista with SP1 cause oryginal one doesn't have SP1 and its crashes after first reboot :/  After I downloaded it, it wasn't ISO img but files which are  on disk :/  too slow connection to download something else :(  I can't find any patch to solve this problem with disk drivers, tried almost everything... I
[10:07] <unknown__> simply must to do bootable CD from files what I have (I got also oryginal one where all bootable files works fine)
[10:08] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi:
[10:08] <unknown__> I hate vista :/
[10:08] <Scunizi> Aperture_Science: yep
[10:08] <lumis> unknown_: same
[10:08] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi:My bad, hiccup. Trying again
[10:08] <Jippen> http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1508 <-- might get you started on the proxy stuff
[10:09] <ronny> hmm
[10:09] <garrett__> Is anyone familiar with pbm2g3 ?
[10:09] <ronny> dammit :(
[10:09] <theonlyfox> Jippen, ok there under my nic
[10:09] <leo> hello
[10:09] <Jippen> fox... I need a link
[10:09] <leo> I just finished struggling throught the instalation, finally decided to switch to linux :)
[10:09] <ronny> lspci lists my devices, the drivers are loaded, aplay -l lists nothing at all :/
[10:09] <glados_> Scunizi: Same errors. Should I just rip out my SLI config before we continue? I noticed in the log it said "More than one possible primary device"
[10:09] <ronny> and alsamixer says it cant connect to pulse :(
[10:09] <etech> is it possible to siable some things i do not need on ubuntu that it boots faster
[10:10] <theonlyfox> Jippen, http://pastebin.com/d7a02c9ad
[10:10] <leo> what is the default root password in the Ubuntu?
[10:10] <theonlyfox> Jippen, but after looking over the file... it looks like the options for loading the alternate CD
[10:11] <Jippen> leo> there isn't one
[10:11] <fosco_> leo: there is no default root password, you can use sudo command instead
[10:11] <Scunizi> glados_: yep.. that will probably fix it.. I hate to say this but it's 2:10 am here and I'm fragged (military term).  Sounds like you might be able to continue without me.. however if you need help there's typically someone here that's been through all this..
[10:11] <leo> fosco_: Jippen:  I just installed it, so there is no root account?
[10:12] <Jippen> fox> It looks like grub isn't even seeing the windows partition anyway. Is there any data you wanna save off there, or do you want to just try a re-install?
[10:12] <fosco_> leo: no root, you just use sudo command
[10:12] <glados_> Scunizi: No worries. I really appreciate the help. I've learned a lot tonight about troubleshooting linux. Thanks for being my technical support tonight! :3
[10:12] <leo> fosco_: this is how it is in Ubuntu?
[10:12] <fosco_> yes
[10:12] <terminhell> im looking for a simple bash command to use in crontab to delete my firefox cache, any thoughts?
[10:12] <Scunizi> glados_: It's been a pleasure. good thing that you've watch you're friends on thier systems.. otherwise this would have been twice as difficult .. :)
[10:13] <leo> fosco_: How do I change the sudo password then?
[10:13] <cmarques> Hello, we're planning to buy two Dell servers (each one from a different model) but they are not officially certified for Ubuntu by Dell and neither appear in the Ubuntu site as certifed. The models are Dell PowerEdge R200 and Dell PowerEdge 1950 III. Did anyone here already succesfully instaled Ubuntu on any of those servers?
[10:13] <theonlyfox> Jippen, the windows partition isnt on this drive.  That resides on the raid where the linux is on this stand alone.  The installer recognized and and windows still loads fine
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> leo: it's just your use password, so you cahnge that.
[10:13] <fosco_> leo: you do NOT change root password, to change sudo password just change the user password
[10:13] <glados_> Scunizi: I can imagine! I'm sure I'll learn a lot more while trying to solve this. Thanks again. Good night!
[10:13] <Jippen> fox> I know that. But grub should still have a menu entry for the windows partition
[10:14] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know how I can install xforms?
[10:14] <leo> fosco_: how about other users? they can sudo too? what password wold they use?
[10:14] <Jippen> leo > man sudo
[10:14] <trippss> someone may recall on here a couple of days ago I mentioned that my laptop went into standby whenever it was unplugged. I seem to have found another variable: that only happens after it's been in standby once already. Freshly booted system or system that has been hibernated doesn't do this. note synaptics touchpad also doesn't work after standby.
[10:14] <leo> this is confusing
[10:14] <fosco_> leo: when you create a new user you can choose whatever it can do sudo or not
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> leo: Only if they are part of the admin group or have been manually set up as sudoers in some other fashion.
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> leo: the "First user" is the only one who can by default.
[10:15] <ronny> hmm
[10:16] <ronny> ok, the pulse server seems to be the main cause of this breakage
[10:16] <leo> tonyyarusso: fosco_, is this like this in Ubuntu only or other disros too?
[10:16] <ronny> my sound device is listed in /proc/asound/cards
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> leo: Other distros do it, but I don't know offhand which ones.
[10:16] <fosco_> leo: not sure, this is the ubuntu way
[10:16] <leo> Can I change it to using root somehow?
[10:16] <ronny> but aplay -l wont show any and alsamicer fails on connect
[10:16] <g33k_gir1> i seem to have no user table in mysql, although I can log in with the mysql consol. but i can't create or grant users
[10:16] <PodMan99a> hey all ... i have a HPdl380 G3 ... 6x73gb disks ... all configured in one bigass raid 5 array... trying to install intrepid... once installed it reboots (/ using all bar 4gb for swap) and sites saying "attempting boot from hard drive" and does notthing at all?? any ideas?
[10:16] <theonlyfox> Jippen, i understand that, but i think the installer tried to install grub to the raid though there is no evidence of it.  The installer asked if I wanted the raid partion activated and then it showed the windows OS in the list of OS's to add to the grub loader.  I think this is just the default and the one that supposed to be here left for the ether or there is an error w/ the installer
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> leo: You can, but it's not recommended.
[10:17] <fosco_> leo: enabling root account is not a good idea, it has been disabled for security reasens
[10:17] <srrr> hello, i want to install Ubuntu on RAID0 on my Promise SAS controller, and need help compiling the driver. can someone please assist
[10:17] <leo> Should have installed Debian...
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> leo: And the general stance is "if you know enough about what you're doing to have a reason to do so, you already know how, so we won't tell you" :P
[10:17] <Jippen> leo> if you wanted debian, why did you install ubuntu?
[10:17] <theonlyfox> Jippen, at any rate I will proly need to create the menu manually... now that I have a way to access it I should be able to.
[10:17] <PodMan99a> if not can i create a boot cd to pass all control to hard disks once its booted?
[10:18] <leo> Jippen:  I didnt know about the sudo nonsense... and installed it because of the update manager
[10:18] <Jippen> fox> Its a little more compliucated than just editing that file.
[10:18] <WishingMaster> leo, if you are using kde/kdm then you can't login as root,so whats the use of enabling root account
[10:18] <Milkeh> this is getting really annoying, why will my music not play
[10:18] <Jippen> leo> sudo takes a little while to get used to, but its really handy. You can allow users to, say, reboot the webserver, without letting them read /etc/shadow
[10:19] <leo> WishingMaster:  I see
[10:19] <theonlyfox> Jippen, I am making the assumption that everything else was configured right on install.
[10:19] <WishingMaster> leo, yeah its of no use
[10:19] <ronny> any hints on how to fix a broken pulse server?
[10:19] <WishingMaster> leo, root can't login
[10:19] <leo> Jippen: just have to do some getting used to :)
[10:19] <fosco_> leo: what's the problem on using sudo? :-?
[10:19] <Jippen> fox> True. But I recommend googling "editing grub in ubuntu" to get the extra steps
[10:19] <Milkeh> can anybody help me?
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> leo: It takes a little getting used to for old-school unix types (my former boss still is getting the hang of it), but over time it seems like a better idea.
[10:20] <leo> I'm accessing User Settings and want to add a user but add button is greyd out, how do I sudo this?
[10:20] <harlemdavvey> hey how can i install clipgrab on my ubuntu 8.10?
[10:20] <Jippen> leo> There is prolly an "unlock" button at the bottom of that window
[10:20] <srrr> hi, i need help installing a driver for my SAS controller - someone please help
[10:20] <harlemdavvey> i have to install a packet in .tar.gz but i don't know how to do..
[10:20] <leo> Jippen: got it, thanks
[10:20] <harlemdavvey> i would have preferred to have to install a .deb file:)
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: what sort of "not play" is happening?
[10:20] <ddoom> how do I get a script to run on boot?
[10:21] <vincent> boot
[10:21] <fosco_> ddoom: put it in /etc/rc.local file
[10:21] <g33k_gir1> my mysql installation has no user table so i can't create any users. this isn't normal, is it?
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> harlemdavvey: No deb available eh?  bummer.  If you look inside of the archive (tar zxvf somefile.tar.gz will unzip it), there is probably a file called README or INSTALL (or both).  Check those for instructions.
[10:22] <ronny> oh yikes
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> ddoom: There are multiple ways.  What sort of script is it / what does it do?
[10:22] <Jippen> g33k > have you used mysql before?
[10:22] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, my songs are just sitting at 0:00, all other sound works
[10:22] <ronny> dammit - why the heck was my user *not* in the pulse group
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: What format are your songs?  (eg MP3, WAV, OGA, etc.)
[10:23] <ddoom> tonyyarusso: starts a ushare daemon, for some reason the actual ushare service doesn't work properly
[10:23] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, MP3
[10:23] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, This also happens randomly, sometimes they play, sometimes they don't/
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: do you have the codecs for them installed yet?
[10:23] <harlemdavvey> thank you so much!!!!!:)
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: lovely...
[10:24] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, I'm fair sure I do.
[10:24] <harlemdavvey> tonyyarusso: thanks :)
[10:24] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, I installed the restricted package.
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> ddoom: then I think what fosco_ is probably appropriate.
[10:24] <harlemdavvey> did someone give a try to some alpha version of the 9.04 ubuntu distro?
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> harlemdavvey: No problem.  Also note that you'll probably need to install the build-essential package first.
[10:25] <fosco_> harlemdavvey: yes, many of us, meet us at #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <harlemdavvey> tonyyarusso: yes.. i think i did it
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: I'm going to guess that you (like many) are having an issue with pulseaudio.
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> harlemdavvey: i have, acpi is a bit buggy so mine hung at "checking battery"
[10:25] <linduxed> ive compiled and kernel and packaged it as .deb files. after packaging i installed the the kernel and headers with dpkg -i... naturally the kernel didnt work as i intended so i want to reverse the process. is there a way to do that?
[10:25] <Like> problem with rytmbox please help
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: sudo dpkg -r <package name>
[10:25] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, how do I fix this?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Like: ask the room
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: I've found I can work around it by doing 'sudo killall pulseaudio && sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils' and restarting the music player, although I'm not sure if that's the most elegand solution.
[10:26] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: will that work for kernels just like that?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: yep, its a package like any other, you may have to manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:26] <Jippen> linduxed > you should be able to boot into a previous kernel through grub. If not... well... this is why we back up files before messing with them. ~.~
[10:26] <Like> :))
[10:27] <linduxed> Jippen: im in a prev kernel now
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: thats kind the whole point of packages, they can be installed / uninstalled very easily
[10:27] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, invoke-rc.d: syntax error: missing required parameter
[10:27] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: nice to see you
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: doh... tack on 'restart' to the end of that.
[10:28] <harlemdavvey> could you suggest me a great guide to learn scripting in the terminal?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> hi g33k_gir1long time no see
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> !abs | harlemdavvey
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> harlemdavvey: man pages and web searching
[10:28] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, sorry I don't understand
[10:28] <Jippen> harlem > google "bash tutorial" and/or "perl tutorial"
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils restart
[10:28] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: well i know that but i thought kernels lived a bit of "their own life"
[10:29] <harlemdavvey> ok guys
[10:29] <harlemdavvey> have a nice day, thanks so much again:)
[10:29] <leo> how do I change logon screen? (just hve a default ubuntu install here)
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: not really, it just installs a kernel to the relevant place in the FS and tells grub where it is and whatnot
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> harlemdavvey: ABSG is pretty much THE guide people point to - it's ridiculously comprehensive.  Also, O'Reilly has many good books on bash, perl, and python scripting if you prefer dead-tree format.
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[10:29] <fosco_> leo: open a terminal and execute gksu gdmsetup
[10:29] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, now I'm getting an x next to songs I attempt to play
[10:30] <RudyValencia> Hi, why would Ubuntu newer than 8.04 fail to burn properly, when the ISO's MD5 is correct and the CD passed the burning program's check?
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: did you restart the player yet?  Check out System > Prefs > Sound and try fiddling with things to make sure you can play the test sound at least still.
[10:30] <zxd> what package has the Microsoft TTF core fonts?
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> zxd: msttcorefonts, iirc
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: did you burn as slow as you could?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> !fonts
[10:31] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused
[10:31] <RudyValencia> ActionParsnip: Should I try burning at a low speed?
[10:31] <Jippen> rudy> bad blank cd it was burned on?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: yes for bootable disks
[10:31] <RudyValencia> I tried CD and DVD-R media
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: that looks like it's still trying to use pulse to me.  Try setting playback to ALSA instead of autodetect.
[10:32] <RudyValencia> I'll try a slow burn and hope it works.
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: if the cd passes consistancy check and the image md5s ok then you have a good ubuntu cd
[10:32] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, It was already on alsa
[10:32]  * RudyValencia tries 4x
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: dang.  well that's no good.
[10:33] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, I tried the Realtek one (I have a realtek soundcard) and have the same problem
[10:33] <chu_> Where do I change mouse settings? I checked the System->Preferences->Mouse but I seem to recall being able to customise it more, for instance when you move over a window it becomes active...
[10:33] <RudyValencia> the slowest my CD-recorder goes is 16x
[10:34] <Jippen> anyone know how to force an ext3 partition into read/write mode?
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: I'm afraid I'm not sure what to do from there then.  There's a guy who knows way more about this, but I don't think he's online atm.  Looking around.
[10:35]  * RudyValencia crosses his fingers
[10:35] <chu_> Ahh, Window Preferences, found it.
[10:35] <fosco_> Jippen: mount -o remount,rw ....
[10:35] <zxd> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[10:35] <zxd> i am trying to dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !locale
[10:36] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, alright thank you I will try restarting my computer and see what happens
[10:36] <Jippen> fosco: cannot change data mode on remount. mount: / not mounted already, or bad option
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: override it and burn at 8 or 4 which may help
[10:36] <RudyValencia> the maximum was 48x
[10:37] <mahmoud> memo
[10:37] <RudyValencia> I set my drive to 4x but it's burning at 16x
[10:37] <theonlyfox> Jippen, thanks for the help.  Ive turned it over to the forums.  I need to get a nap before my meeting in a few h....oly crap its 4:30.. make that 3 hours.
[10:37] <fosco_> Jippen: make sure / is really mounted
[10:37] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: it worked thx
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: then thats ok
[10:37] <tajen> oki, I have a somewhat embarrasing problem. I have installed Wubi over Windows Vista, and the other day I was doing some "cleaning" in Vista. While doing this cleaning, I happened to delete some *.mbr files from C:\, and I kinda figured out later that I probably deleted the files which controls the disks in Ubuntu. Is there any recovery tool that might help me?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: sweet
[10:38] <zxd> how do i generate locales?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !recover | tajen
[10:38] <Jippen> df says it is. Its an lvm if that makes a difference
[10:38] <prince_jammys> !locale > zxd
[10:38]  * RudyValencia holds on to his backside
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> Sounds to me like tajen's files were probably on the NTFS system though
[10:39]  * ActionParsnip hates wubi
[10:39] <deany> lol, virtually impossible?  ive formatted an ntfs partition to ext3, used it a day or 2, reformatted back to ntfs, and when booted into linux its mounted as the old ext3 with the old files, which are all readable.
[10:40] <zxd> prince_jammys, Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "localeconf"
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> tajen: you coud fix the windows mbr so windows boots ok, then resetup wubi but keep your hdd image to one side (im not to clued up on the workings of wubi) then copy the image in once its all nice again
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> deany: Oddly enough, reformatting ext3 to ntfs is actually less destructive than deleting a file while using ext3 usually.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: depends on how you format ;)
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> I suppose
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> 7 pass bit invertions will make it near impossible to recover the data
[10:41] <RudyValencia> Well, I guess I need to write these CDs as slow as possible
[10:41] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, now that I've restarted it's good, but it's just going to happen again :
[10:41] <Aperture_Science> It works!
[10:41] <prince_jammys> zxd: yeah, apparently that package was discontinued in gutsy
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Aperture_Science: wtg :D
[10:42] <zxd> prince_jammys, so what do i do
[10:42] <prince_jammys> zxd: see if the other steps work for you
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: is it working ok now?
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> Milkeh: See if you can find dtchen active some time.  (He's very busy, but very useful if you can catch him.)
[10:42] <RudyValencia> Looks like it's booting OK
[10:42] <Milkeh> tonyyarusso, alright thank you
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: sweet, yeah most systems dont like CDs burned too fast, plus you get a better burn at lower speeds
[10:43] <RudyValencia> Hm, that may be why my friend has been having problems with CDs I burn for him
[10:43] <RudyValencia> I think the next batch I make for him I'll run slower
[10:43] <RudyValencia> thanks
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: makes sense. thats why i never get these drives that do huge speeds
[10:43] <G-Blunted> what is my "panel"?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: i never burn over 16x
[10:43] <RudyValencia> Hm, I should use my little HP CD16f
[10:43] <G-Blunted> i got these sensors that are supposed to show up "in my panel" somewhere
[10:43] <RudyValencia> It has been working well for years
[10:44] <fosco_> G-Bleezy: it means the gnome panel
[10:44] <zxd> prince_jammys, dpkg-reconfigure locales  does nothing
[10:44] <G-Blunted> whats that?
[10:44] <Vonor> o/
[10:44] <G-Blunted> or where
[10:44] <Vonor> anyone using gnome-globalmenu?
[10:44] <fosco_> G-Bleezy: the gray bar with the clock and the gnome menu
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | Vonor
[10:45] <G-Blunted> you're right
[10:45] <G-Blunted> there it is! thanks dude :)
[10:46] <learning-regex> Can someone write me a SED command that translates all a’s is into e’s and all e’s into a’s.
[10:46] <JamesA_> Does Ubuntu use KDE or Gnome as standard?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> JamesA_: gnome
[10:46] <Vonor> ActionParsnip, next time use your own words please, i don't like talking to bots :P / 2ndly, if noone in here uses it, i don't need to ask my next question as noone will know the answer
[10:46] <learning-regex> JamesA_, use kubuntu for KDE
[10:46] <zaggynl> wth
[10:46] <zaggynl> I didn't type that
[10:46] <fosco_> learning-regex: asking for we to do your homework? :)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> JamesA_: kubuntu uses kde as standard, but theres nothing stopping you from installing kubuntu-desktop metapackage on ubuntu to get kde
[10:47] <RudyValencia> Oops.
[10:47] <zaggynl> oh phew, screen bug
[10:47] <JamesA_> Thanks. Second question- themes at gnome-look.org don't seem to be compatible with the Ubuntu theme manager, can anyone offer assistance?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> JamesA_: but you will have both gtk and qt on your system, depends on your stance with bloat
[10:47] <learning-regex> fosco_, asking for help...:)
[10:47] <blizzle> Vonor, Try gnome-do perhaps..
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Vonor: its simple advice, just ask the question to the point :D
[10:48] <fosco_> JamesA_: themes at gnome-look.org are compatible
[10:48] <RudyValencia> eesh, Kubuntu 8.10 is slow on this old Dell Optiplex GX100 :(
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: it will be in the livecd environment.
[10:48] <blizzle> RudyValencia, You might be better off with Xfce.
[10:48] <blizzle> RudyValencia, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> RudyValencia: or sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[10:49] <learning-regex> fosco_,  sed  's/[e][a]/\1a\2e/g' at lest tell me if I'm in the right direction
[10:49] <blizzle> Fluxbox is a bit too retro for my liking, good though some aspects are. Xfce is more in keeping with the Ubuntu desktop ethos, in my view at least.
[10:50] <zxd> prince_jammys, shouldn't dpkg-reconfigure locales , bring up a debconf window?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> blizzle: i just throw it out there as an option. I think fluxbox is badass, theres even fluxbuntu but its not an official release
[10:50] <prince_jammys> zxd: i think so, yeah
[10:50] <prince_jammys> zxd: you don't even get an error message?
[10:51] <blizzle> ActionParsnip, Sure, I do like some aspects of flux, though for someone used to the normal Ubuntu desktop paradigm it is a bit different.
[10:51] <Like> :)
[10:51] <Jippen> blizzle> A bit? I'd hardly call flux "a bit" different
[10:51] <zxd> prince_jammys, no
[10:51] <JamesA_> I'm given .desktop, .xml, & .png files with a downloaded theme from gnome-looks.org, none of these are what the system->preferences->appearances->select theme wants, can anyone advise?
[10:51] <Like> gm
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> blizzle: true, its an option though. I like to give options rather than "low system spec...use xfce"
[10:51] <blizzle> ActionParsnip, That said, KDE4 is a bit different also. I mostly stear clear of KDE :)
[10:52] <Jippen> action> low system spec... use the terminal?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> blizzle: i love kde, but hate kwin massively
[10:52] <blizzle> Jippen, I was understating my case? :)
[10:52] <fosco_> JamesA_: you download a tgz file from gnome-look.org, then drag and drop it over the appearance window and theme will be automatically installed and used
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Jippen: i do, lots for cd burning, file management, file moving etc
[10:53] <Jippen> action> I ment that in a silly, sarcastic way. TBH, if I have an old system, thats too weak for ubuntu, I'd toss DSL on there instead
[10:53] <blizzle> ActionParsnip, Also, on the tweak.configuration front, Fluxbox is a nuisance, Xfce less so.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> blizzle: theres nice menus and the config files are well documented
[10:53] <JamesA_> "There was an error installing the selected file. "Dusty" does not appear to be a valid theme."
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> blizzle: depends on experience i guess
[10:54] <rip_> does file roller not open rar files?
[10:54] <fosco_> JamesA_: use any other theme
[10:55] <JamesA_> I'll try.
[10:55] <fosco_> rip_: yes it does
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !rar | rip__
[10:55] <Jippen> rip : you need to install unrar first
[10:55] <rip_> oh duh loll thx
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> rip_: once you install rar stuff, fileroller will use it
[10:55] <blizzle> ActionParsnip, Sure, this is true. For some config files are bread and butter, for others a royal pain in the ass :)
[10:56] <Jippen> xml config files tend to make things worse, IMHO. ~.~
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> rip_: or just use unrar x <rar file>
[10:56] <blup> hello i got a problem on ubuntu 8.04. the system restarts but is unable to shutdown...I report the lines it writes me:
[10:57] <Aldus> hello. I need some debian/ubuntu FTP shell utility to use via SSH and get all data (files + directory) from remote ftp folders (with user/password). Which would be some very good software to do this? Thanks
[10:57] <ronny> Jippen: unfortunately xml is one of those hammers (and also more agile than some languages)
[10:57] <blup> "Network manager: <warn> nm_hal_deint(): libha1 shutdown failed - connection is closed
[10:57] <blup>  "Network manager: <warn> nm_hal_deint() could not get the system bus. Make sure the message bus daemon is running!
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> blizzle: i like editting conf files, makes config via ssh way easier
[10:57] <blup> Network manager: nm_dbus_signal_device_status_change: assertion 'cb_data->data->dbusconnection' failed
[10:57] <rip_> actually is there a better option than unrar?
[10:57] <Jippen> aldus: rsync or scp would be great tools for that
[10:57] <Kohvihoor> has anyone successfully done multiseat in ubuntu?
[10:57] <Aldus> thank you very much Jippen
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> rip_: works pretty well, how do you mean by better?
[10:57] <blizzle> ActionParsnip, Fair play :)
[10:58] <rip_> just curious, been ages since ive been on linux
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> blizzle: but for new users, a nice gui is useful
[10:58] <blizzle> rip_, FileRoller's fine.
[10:58] <rip_> alright, off i go, thx
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> rip_: fileroller is fine, kde has ark
[10:58] <blup> anyone can help me please?
[10:58] <benkamin> Hi! can hard links work on ntfs external drive?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> blup: i'd read dmesg | less to make sure your system is all coming online nicely
[10:59] <Jippen> benkamin: No. ntfs links are not compatible with ext3 links
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | benkamin
[10:59] <blup> yes actionparsnip, everything ok
[10:59] <blup> actionparsnip the networks is in good shape, The system reboots but no way to turn it off...
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Jippen: wouldnt it just be a file on the FS?
[11:00] <benkamin> so if i do "cp -al" in a ntfs disk it will just simply copy the files?
[11:00] <blup> I installed with WUBI
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> blup: sudo shutdown -h now
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> blup: :( @ wubi
[11:00] <blup> ok..I'm on another computer so I can tell you what happen
[11:00] <Jippen> action> No, links do some odd things.
[11:00] <blizzle> benkamin, Also you might want to look at ntfs-config. sudo aptitude install ntfs-config
[11:01] <zxd> packages in universe and multiverse and restricted don't conflict with packages in main correct?
[11:01] <GridSimForNow> Hello guys, anyone using GridSim ? I need some help !!!
[11:01] <maheshkumar19041> hi for all I am mahesh i am done one fuleshens thing on my pendrive. i am using the scandis 4GB pendrive and i am changed that valume after the mounting is as vfat(Fat16 in linux) when i plug it after that it shows the message the filesystem is no supported to the system. how i can recove and format it but it can workd onthe Windows-XP i tride to formate it for recover from autorun.inf virus. It formated and works but unable to recove for autorun v
[11:01] <blizzle> zxd, Correct.
[11:01] <benkamin> thx
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> zxd: correct
[11:01] <ziroday> maheshkumar19041: you probably want to format it with gparted
[11:02] <blizzle> zxd, If you want more granular (manual) dependency resolution, use aptitude instead of apt-get. Just a thought.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> maheshkumar19041: you may want to install ntfs-tools
[11:02] <maheshkumar19041> How can format my Pendrive or removibal storage devices
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !info ntfs-tools
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> its something like that
[11:02] <ziroday> maheshkumar19041: install the package gparted and use that
[11:02] <gwark> is the freeze and caps lock flashing on and off a wireless-related error???
[11:03] <GridSimForNow> Hello guys, anyone using "GridSim" ? I need some help !!!
[11:03] <Jippen> I've never even heard of that before.
[11:03] <maheshkumar19041> thany u and any other way
[11:04] <ziroday> GridSimForNow: you may have better luck using the gridsim mailing list. Thats a pretty specialist app.
[11:04] <ziroday> maheshkumar19041: what is wrong with the ways given to you?
[11:04] <maheshkumar19041> not at all but the tool is unable to download for my mobile net
[11:05] <blup> ActionParsnip: it says that shutdown -h is not a valid command
[11:05] <GridSimForNow> ziroday : thanks... just wanted to see, any immadiate help...
[11:05] <Jippen> blup > try "sudo shutdown -h"
[11:05] <blizzle> blup, sudo shutdown -h 0 (or now)
[11:05] <blup> ActionParsnip: and it says me to try shutdown --help for further info
[11:05] <ziroday> maheshkumar19041: well there is fdisk, however its a command line too and can be tricky. I strongly recommend you try gparted
[11:05] <mattis> I have installed KDE on top of Gnome, is there a graphical way of changing between desktop managers?
[11:05] <leo> Just plugged in my logitech webcam into computer (fresh ubuntu install) it does not seem to work, how do I fix it?
[11:05] <blizzle> blup, note the value after the -h
[11:05] <ziroday> leo: do you know what the model is?
[11:05] <kop_> since when does kill -9 <pid> not exterinate a process
[11:06] <blup> ok
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> blup: sudo shutdown -h now
[11:06] <leo> ziroday, I can find out
[11:06] <ziroday> kop: it should, with the correct permissions, what process?
[11:06] <maheshkumar19041> thanks to ﻿ziroday
[11:06] <blizzle> kop_, If you don't have the privs required to kill it. try sudo kill..
[11:06] <ziroday> leo: that would be great
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> kop_: if its not your own process ou will need sudo
[11:06] <jado> how can i add my windows partition to the grub menu using the grub editor ?
[11:06] <kop_> blizzle, that was the first choice
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !grub | jado
[11:06] <blizzle> jado, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[11:07] <blizzle> jado, Forget that, misread your q.
[11:07] <leo> ziroday: it looks like QuickCam® Connect™
[11:07] <blup> ActionParsnip: I heard the HDD that goes to sleep...Ubuntu logo was there but then I have a black screen
[11:07] <kop_> ActionParsnip, nice to see you again and I'm just considering a bigger hammer
[11:07] <leo> ziroday: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/webcam_communications/webcams/devices/4266&cl=ca,en
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> kop_: never a bad idea, just watch its not too big
[11:07] <blizzle> blup: Try ctrl+alt+f1-f7
[11:08] <jado> ActionParsnip: i restored grub but it does not display the windows entry
[11:08] <Jippen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309064 <-- old, but still accurate
[11:08] <blup> blizzle: i rebooted
[11:08] <ziroday> leo: okay, in a terminal try do sudo modprobe quickcam
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> jado: then you need an extra entry using the chainloader If you read /boot/grub/menu.lst you will see an example which you can copy / paste to the active part of grub to get the boot in there
[11:08] <blizzle> blup, sudo shutdown -r 0 will reboot rather than halt your system.
[11:08] <G-Blunted> anyone know if i can print to a printer on another computer not through LAN but through the internet??
[11:09] <error404notfound> can someone help me to setup my modem on HP Compaq 6720s. I tried linmodem mailing list, but every email just bounces..
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> jado: the grub factoid link should also be able to help
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> G-Blunted: sure, you just need some port forwarding setting up
[11:09] <jado> can't i use the grub editor ?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> jado: ive not used it
[11:09] <leo> ziroday: it didnt do anything
[11:09] <Jewbacca> hi, can i talk with someone on private msg about how to configure my internet on linux? its not wireless :p i just cba to search your msgs on here :p
[11:09] <blup> blizzle: I made this pc for my mother and I would like that she would be able to turn of with the red button, I don't think she could open a terminal and wrtite commands...
[11:10] <Watson2k9> hey guys i got a problemo
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: thats why we use names to highlight in the room
[11:10] <maheshkumar19041> Help plz.... i am installing the Windows-XP in c:/ and Ubuntu 8.04 is installed in the last partation and boot is inthe last drive. my proble is i want to forma ans reinstall the Windows XP by the cass of virus problem. but i do not want to reinsstall the ubuntu ho can install only grob more.....
[11:10] <ziroday> leo: can you pastebin the output of lsmod please
[11:10] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: but there are many msgs here and i dont want to get confused
[11:10] <kop_> ActionParsnip, any other good ideas besides the ubiquitous windows fix ?
[11:10] <blizzle> Jewbacca, Ask here, people will help. No need for private messaging. Just ensure you prefix your sentences with the name of the person you're addressing.
[11:10] <Jippen> mahesh> sadly, windows will overwrite the MBR, forcing you to re-install grub every time you do that
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> maheshkumar19041: you will only have to reinstall grub to the boot sector as windows will write over the existing one, the linux install will still stand as long as you do not touch its partitions
[11:11] <Jewbacca> ok hmm my friend connect to the internet via username and password, how to set them on ubuntu?
[11:11] <leo> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m51d3cf98
[11:11] <Watson2k9> can someone help me please !
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: well if you can see username highlights, you wont
[11:11] <jado> ActionParsnip: my windows partition is /dev/sda4, what do i have to write instead of (hd0,0) ?
[11:11] <Jippen> watson> Try asking a question. :3
[11:11] <ziroday> leo: and what are you using to view the camera?
[11:11] <ddoom> is there a way to setup ssh keys on ubuntu server and connect to an ssh server without being asked for the passphrase?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> jado: should be 0,3
[11:11] <leo> skype's opions menu where it has "test webcam"
[11:12] <kop_> ActionParsnip, wow busy tonight I'm out looking for a hammer :-)
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> jado: sda == first hdd (disk 0)
[11:12] <Vadonon> trying to connect to an IRC network with SSL and i get this, Connection failed. Error: (336130315) error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number any ideas?
[11:12] <leo> ziroday: ^^
[11:12] <jado> ActionParsnip: and how do you know it's  ?
[11:12] <Jippen> ddoom Yes, its pretty easy, actually
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> jado: partition 4 = partition 3 in grub as disk numbers start 0 instead of 1
[11:12] <jado> 3
[11:12] <ziroday> leo: sure, try out cheese for now
[11:12] <jado> ok
[11:12] <Jippen> ddoom> http://blogs.translucentcode.org/mick/archives/000230.html
[11:12] <Watson2k9> Jippen: lol ok basically ive just installed vBox and i went into my user and groups and the root tab was grayed out and so was everything in side it... help :(
[11:12] <Watson2k9> im an ubuntu noob too
[11:13] <leo> ziroday: what?
[11:13] <ziroday> leo: install the app cheese and use that to test your webcam
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Watson2k9: you dont have root
[11:13] <maheshkumar19041> plz... explain how to install grub on boot section
[11:13] <deany> Watson2k9, you have to unlock it
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Watson2k9: use sudo / gksudo if you need admin power
[11:13] <blizzle> Jewbacca, Open a terminal and type ifconfig
[11:13] <Watson2k9> Actionparsnip : no its grayed out
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !grub | maheshkumar19041
[11:13] <blup> ActionParsnip: so no way to make work that red button to shutdown?
[11:13] <leo> ziroday: oh.. ok... I was going to the fridge :)
[11:14] <deany> I assume you are wantin to add your user to the vbox group
[11:14] <jado> ActionParsnip: the grub editor is asking me to much things i don't know about : Kernel (File) ; Arguments
[11:14] <Watson2k9> i am the only person on my ubuntu
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> jado: well for the windows one it doesnt have kernel / options etc
[11:14] <ziroday> leo: haha, no worries
[11:14] <Jewbacca> blizzle: and?
[11:14] <leo> ziroday: where is cheese? it wot find it in Add/Remove
[11:15] <leo> ziroday: nm, found it
[11:15] <scarletwill> when I turn my wireless button ON in my laptop, my system halts .. and sometimes the CapsLock flashes ... is there a solution please??  thanks
[11:15] <jado> ActionParsnip: thanks ; what about initrd ?
[11:15] <maheshkumar19041> thank u for the helpers... keep loving the linux to all and bye
[11:15] <ziroday> leo: great
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> jado: windows doesnt have that either
[11:16] <deany> Ok someone answer me this one..  Got ubuntu 8.10 running in vbox, i have a few server components installed so its using 132mb approx on bootup.  Now i installed xubuntu-desktop and rebooted, choose xfce as the default and booted into xfce.. Its using approx 40mb more ram, and System Monitor says Gnome 2.2.xxx
[11:16] <deany> whats that all about then....
[11:16] <leo_> Hello everyone...can I ask a Neverwinters night question here?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> jado: i'd read the menu file, its a bit simpler. Sometimes guis ask too much
[11:16] <ddoom> Jippen: thanks
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> leo_: if its to do with running it in wine, i'd suggest #winehq
[11:16] <ziroday> deany: well you have xfce and gnome, your probably starting both services which can be counter productive. Try removing ubuntu-desktop to get rid if the ubuntu desktop components leaving you with xubuntu-desktop
[11:17] <Watson2k9> gar still not working
[11:17] <leo> ActionParsnip: running what on wine? skype?
[11:17] <leo_> no actually I was wondering if I can run it without wine
[11:17] <leo> ziroday: how do I run cheese once I installed it?
[11:17] <ziroday> leo: just type cheese into the terminal
[11:17] <jado> ActionParsnip: the configuration is finished, i'll try and reboot
[11:18] <deany> Is that why i have gnome system monitor in apps menu
[11:18] <Watson2k9> my root is still greyed out aand i cant get the sudo command to work
[11:18] <leo_> ActionParsnip, no actually I was wondering if I can run it without wine
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> leo_: i dont think so man. Let me check.
[11:18] <leo_> ActionParsnip, ok thanx
[11:18] <leo> ziroday: it shows very dark and slooow in chese
[11:18] <kop_>  ps ax | grep transmission   returns 6525 ?        Zl    64:44 [transmission] <defunct> I'm just guessing ZL is zombie list ?
[11:18] <ziroday> leo: hmph
[11:19] <fluitfries> is there a way to output the model of my motherboard and graphics card from within Ubuntu?  thanks.
[11:19] <Watson2k9> can anyone help me with virtual box ?
[11:19] <archman> leo_: i believe you can't, if it's windows-only
[11:19] <leo> ziroday: and camera's light isnt on, so it's not being really used I guess
[11:19] <carpii> fluit, theres a system info app on your start menu
[11:19] <fluitfries> Watson2k9: join #virtualbox please
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> leo_: http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=65
[11:19] <Watson2k9> ok
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> leo_: theres a loki installer for it :D:D
[11:19] <ziroday> leo: don't know beyond that, sorry
[11:19] <rip_> looking for a program to watch for wifi networks, like netstumbler.  any particular program come to mind?
[11:19] <fluitfries> Watson2k9: i'm sorry, it's #vbox
[11:19] <deany> apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop says its gonna free up 52k of space.. lol
[11:19] <leo_> ActionParsnip, thanx
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> rip_: wireshark maybe
[11:19] <ziroday> leo: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams it should just work
[11:20] <rip_> ActionParsnip: thats just a protocol analyzer to my knowledge
[11:20] <fluitfries> carpii: ok, that tells the exact mode?
[11:20] <fluitfries> *model
[11:20] <leo_> ActionParsnip, so then I can run it without a win emulator?
[11:21] <carpii> im not sure, but itd be a good place to start
[11:21] <fluitfries> k
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> leo_: yeah man should be ok, WINE isnt an emulator btw
[11:21] <leo_> ActionParsnip, what is it then I am new to all this stuff...
[11:22] <bauer_> how do i supress the "has joined" messages in xchat irc ?
[11:22] <carpii> right click the tab
[11:22] <archman> leo_ seems like you need to insert your game cd and start that file you got
[11:22] <student> d
[11:22] <student> ...
[11:23] <student> z
[11:23] <student> ds
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> leo_: *W*ine *I*s *N*ot an *E*mulator
[11:23] <Jippen> is there a way to force a write on a file in a read-only fs? My system doesn't like my /etc/fstab options, but it won't let me change them to something it likes
[11:23] <jado> ActionParsnip: when i click on the entry i've added "windows xp" nothing happens
[11:23] <leo_> archman, yea I have ubuntu 8.10 and I am going to get the game today. I just want to make sure I can play it before I buy ....
[11:23] <archman> leo_: nwn_1.68-english.update.run you need this first, and then nwn_1.29-multilanguage-2.run :-/
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> jado: then you need to review your setting, I'd look at menu.lst
[11:24] <Aldo> sorry Jippen but those utils look too complex for what I need...
[11:24] <Aldo> I just need  a command line ftp client that allows me to get a full remote folder
[11:24] <Jippen> aldo: ???
[11:24] <Aldo> not only a file
[11:24] <archman> leo_ oh, that...well, i don't recommend you buying before trying in on linux, there is slight a chance it wont work...
[11:24] <jado> ActionParsnip: title Windows XP '\n' root (hd0,3) ; this is my menu.lst for the windows entry
[11:24] <deany> ActionParsnip, simple remove ubuntu-desktop didnt remove anything,  ive run tasksel and its not got an * there for it so i just went "OK" to let it do whatever and its removing it all now.. we`ll see if i have a usable desktop when its done
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> leo_: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-c9e6502ad636315e905d07f7e44594757a6738e3
[11:25] <Jippen> aldo: Oh. The 'ftp' command should be able to do that
[11:25] <leo_> archman, how am I supose to try it before I buy it/
[11:25] <archman> leo_ khm**
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> jado: you need chainloader +1 in there too, look around the file, there are examples
[11:26] <archman> leo_ i'm not trying to promote piracy here, but...
[11:26] <leo_> archman, lol
[11:26] <archman> leo_ you'll end up ":(" if you buy it and if you cant get it to work
[11:26] <Jippen> most eulas are broken if you loan the game to a friend. Which is just as bad as piracy as far as game companies are concerned
[11:27] <leo_> Ok Action and archman thanx for all your info....
[11:27] <archman> leo_ try the iso from the net, if your game works, delete the downloaded game, and go buy thegame
[11:28] <archman> leo_ simple as that
[11:28] <leo_> archman, ok I just might do that thanx...
[11:28] <archman> leo_ welcome!
[11:28] <shavin> In order to print address labels in OOwriter bundled with intrepid, how do i define a 'data source' since i do not have OObase in the default install. Is there some other way around?
[11:28] <shavin> why has the base been left out?
[11:28] <Jippen> shavin> You can install oobase
[11:28] <shavin> cant i use calc for this purpose?
[11:29] <Jippen> spreadsheets are not databases
[11:30] <shavin> Jippen: thanks
[11:30] <anTiX> I'm trying to get a touch screen to work... It's a LG l1510sf on Intrepid. I also tried it on Jaunty.. anybody have some experience in this?
[11:31] <BBishop> hi everybody. Has anyone got to make 'html validator' addon for firefox work in 8.10 ? :|
[11:32] <error404notfound> using ubuntu can I tunnel tcp over udp?
[11:32] <|ns|nR8> using a vpn yes
[11:32] <error404notfound> and without vpn?
[11:33] <Jippen> netcat might be able to do it
[11:34] <BBishop> Blastyou is a inviter ..
[11:34] <jado> thanks ActionParsnip it worked
[11:34] <Watson2k9> #vbox
[11:34] <Watson2k9> is Fluitfries still here ?
[11:34] <carpii> i did "du -ckxs" and it reports "26481536        total"    what unit is that? Kb ?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> jado: without the gui ?
[11:35] <fluitfries> Watson2k9: i'm sorry, it's #vbox
[11:35] <error404notfound> "Featured tunneling mode which allows also special tunneling such as UDP to TCP" on netcat homepage
[11:35] <tkdryan> need help getting geforce 5200 fx running properly on 8.10... anyone?
[11:35] <jascott> broadcom make /me go insane
[11:35] <Watson2k9> fluitfries: how do i get there... im a complete ubuntu noob
[11:36] <voland> hello everybody
[11:36] <fluitfries> Watson2k9: in your irc client type '/join #vbox
[11:36] <fluitfries> Watson2k9: no quotes
[11:36] <kop_> jascott, you won't be the first
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[11:36] <jado> carpii: use -h
[11:36] <carpii> ok, thanks
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> jado: did you get it rolling without the gui or with?
[11:37] <tkdryan> thank you action parsnip! I actually have the driver installed (according to system>administration>hardware drivers) and is version 173...should i still try this??
[11:37] <E3b> hello all, I need help with sound card 5.1 on ubuntu, I have "Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)" how can I configure it to work in 5.1 channel?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: then gksudo nvidia-settings
[11:37] <voland> Where can I ask question about gladex?
[11:38] <tkdryan> that opens the nvidia control panel thing, then what?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: yeah i just read the supported cards by the packages and the 173 is for your card
[11:38] <jado> ActionParsnip: with it, but finally it has just added chainloader +1
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: it should moan at you saying to run a command as root
[11:38] <tkdryan> I have root privilages
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: you can then run: sudo nvidia-xconfig or whatever it is
[11:38] <tkdryan> in this profile
[11:39] <deany> thats just dandy, removin ubuntu-desktop is removin the whole shibang, xfce, the lot...   how sad...
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: thats fine, use sudo and you will be ok. you shouldnt be logging on as root
[11:39] <deany> does no one test this stuff before relasing it
[11:40] <deany> i have some *work* to do now...ciao for now
[11:40] <thomas__> kikoolol
[11:40] <kop_> ok , how to kill a zombie
[11:40] <thomas__> OMAGAD UNE BOMBE NUCLAYIRE
[11:42] <kop_> better yet what is "uninterruptable"
[11:42] <kop_> ... other than spelled wrong
[11:46] <jado> sorry ActionParsnip i was disconnected did you say something ?
[11:46] <themime> i compiled a madwifi driver, it worked perfectly, updated ubuntu, it got a new kernel, it stopped working, i recompiled it, and now it gives an error when it loads, "FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci: Unknown symbol in module, or unknown paramter blah blahblah" so I check dmesg and its complaining a lot about ieeeXXX.  my question is, how do i completely remove all traces of a module compilation?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> jado: just wondering how you reached the goal. I dont use the guis for that reason, they never do a full job imho
[11:48] <foges> Hey people, i did something seriously stupid, i just organised my whole music collection on my computer  and the managed to delete it. can someone please give me the name of a utility that can do data recovery (ext3 formated), thanks
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> foges: foremost is ok
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> foges: easier to restore from backup though
[11:49] <foges> thanks, will look for it
[11:49] <themime> ls
[11:49] <themime> er
[11:50] <foges> :) yeah i know. i do have a backup, but its a while since i backed up last and have a bit of new music, plus my backup isnt sorted very well
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> foges: well hopefully the backup can fill the gaps in the data you cant recover
[11:50] <tkdryan> ActionParsnip: my conneciton was lost, would like to retry....
[11:51] <jado> ActionParsnip: the gui asked if i want a chainloader but as i didn't know what that means i just left it blank
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> jado: yeah thats what kicks off the boot
[11:52] <Blinkiz> Hi. Does it exist a easy tool to push ssh public key to machines in my network? From the command prompt...
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173; gksudo nvidia-settings
[11:52] <kop_> jado, chainloading is using grub to load another boot process
[11:53] <jado> ok thanks
[11:53] <tkdryan> got that part, when i run gksudo it just opens the "NVIDIA X Server Settings" gui window
[11:53] <tkdryan> *gksudo nvidia-settings
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: try: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: then restart x
[11:55] <tkdryan> ok hold on
[11:55] <kop_> linux-image 2.6.27.11.27_i386.deb ---- I smell a reboot coming
[11:56] <themime> a re...boot?  whats that?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> themime: needed to boot a new kernel
[11:56] <themime> haha
[11:57] <kop_> ActionParsnip, I'm a lil behind on my maint
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> kop_: i have a cron job that runs full updates with force all yes that runs at 4am
[11:58] <kop_> ActionParsnip, old habit , I'd rather watch
[11:59] <tkdryan> ActionParsnip: seems to be no change so far, just ran sudo nvidia-xconfig and restarted x
[11:59] <themime> this is the last time i get a new kernel.  messing up my wifi drivers and all
[12:00] <kjell> That sounds unwise.
[12:00] <kjell> Not upgrading to a new kernel.
[12:00] <kshadow> themime: What wifi device do you use?
[12:00] <Omar87> What is the command to show the current running processes?
[12:00] <kjell> Omar87: ps
[12:00] <wiijii> Morning all. Anyone have any recommendations for a UK web hosting service? For a small business
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> tkdryan: ok, now run gksudo nvidia-settings
[12:00] <kshadow> wiijii: godaddy.com?
[12:00] <kop_> themime, I hear ya , I have some odd hardware here that looks at new kernels like they were the end of the world
[12:01] <tkdryan> that still just opens the nvidia settings gui
[12:01] <Omar87> kjell: But is doesn't show me everything, it shows only two processes: bash and ps.
[12:01] <wiijii> kshadow Will check 'em out, I've heard a few people have had customer service issues with them, what d'you think?
[12:01] <kjell> Omar87: If you want to show more processes there you can run ps -e (I think its -e)
[12:01] <kshadow> wiijii: I find them great.
[12:02] <themime> i compiled madwifi drivers earlier today, got em working just fine right off the bat, did a general update for ubuntu (new install from yesterday) and it put a new kernel in place and it just flat out stopped working.  i tired recompiling them, and now it won't even modprobe
[12:02] <kjell> Omar87: If you want to find a specific one you can run ps -e | grep firefox <- for an example
[12:02] <kshadow> wiijii: I haven't had any issues at all, and the people who've recommended me to usethem haven't either.
[12:02] <wiijii> OK, nice :D
[12:02] <leo> I have several files and a directory that I want to place in one archive, howdo I tar gzip it or whatever?
[12:02] <themime> leo: "man tar"
[12:02] <themime> or "man gzip"
[12:02] <wiijii> kshadow are they UK based?
[12:03] <kshadow> wiijii: Not so much.
[12:03] <Omar87> kjell: Thanks a lot.
[12:03] <kjell> Omar87: If you want to know more about a command it's always wise to use the manual. Type "man ps" if you want to read ps's manual. It has explanation of the -e switch etc.
[12:03] <kshadow> leo: tar -czvf FILENAME.tar.gz folder
[12:03] <guest> hhhhhheeeeelllppppp, by mistake i set resulotion to 300x300 so now i can do anything...now im logged as guest :p
[12:04] <guest> hhhhhheeeeelllppppp, by mistake i set resulotion to 300x300 so now i cant do anything...now im logged as guest :p
[12:04] <kshadow> guest: Stop spamming.
[12:04] <dennda> In what intervals does tomboy sync my notes with my local folder (which is actually a remote folder mounted via sshfs)?
[12:04] <kshadow> guest: You mean you set your Xorg.conf file to it?
[12:04] <kjell> !repeat | guest
[12:04] <Kyle> I hate YXB
[12:04] <guest> kshadow: no, on system--->management
[12:04] <Kyle> Ij4
[12:04] <Kyle> GDS
[12:04] <Kyle> GF
[12:04] <Kyle> GF
[12:04] <FloodBot1> Kyle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:05] <mylisto> having a problem with video playback..
[12:05] <ziroday> guest: how did you set your resolution?
[12:05] <mylisto> video is going very slow...like in slow motion
[12:05] <guest> ziroday: on system--->management and screen seperation or resulotion
[12:05] <themime> woooo i fixed my wifi driver issue.  cd /lib/modules/%kernelhere%/net; rm -f * -> restart -> recompile.  oh, and removed the restricted drivers for good measure
[12:05] <kshadow> guest: ALT+CTRL++
[12:05] <ziroday> guest: well then change it back from there
[12:06] <guest> ziroday: but the screen is 300x300 i cant see anything
[12:06] <guest> kshadow: what does that do?
[12:06] <ziroday> themime: recompiling your kernel is really recommended
[12:06] <kshadow> Makes the resolution bigger.,
[12:06] <guest> thanks i will test that
[12:06] <ziroday> guest: you can use the xrandr command to it back
[12:06] <foges> ActionParsnip: is there any way to recover folders and not only files?
[12:06] <themime> ziroday: i recompiled my madwifi drivers...  recompiling the kernel for what purpose?
[12:06] <ziroday> themime: sorry misread :)
[12:06] <leo> Can someone give me a command for archiving files?
[12:07] <themime> ziroday: oh hehe np
[12:07] <leo> tar dos ot seem to compress at all
[12:07] <kshadow> leo: Tar is not compression, gzip is.
[12:07] <themime> leo: are you wanting to archive and not compress?
[12:07] <ziroday> leo: http://www.linux.com/feature/47751
[12:08] <themime> kshadow: as far as i knew, you could use tar to archive and not compress
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> foges: read this
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> !recover | foges
[12:08] <kshadow> themime: Tar is for archiving, but it does not compress.
[12:09] <guest> kshadow: it didnt work
[12:09] <ziroday> leo: that article has a good explanation of the difference
[12:09] <ziroday> guest: did you try using xrandr?
[12:09] <guest> whats that ziroday
[12:09] <tkdryan> need help getting geforce 5200 fx working at full performance in 8.10
[12:09] <kshadow> guest: man xrandr
[12:09] <ziroday> guest: its a terminal command to change the resolution
[12:09] <guest> ziroday: i have a screen which is 300x300, its like the size of a desktop icon
[12:09] <themime> kshadow: thats what he wanted though, archiving and not compressing.  but you can use -z to compress as well
[12:10] <guest> ziroday: but i cant see the terminal on that resulotion
[12:10] <ziroday> guest: you can the window around with ctrl+alt+left click and drag
[12:10] <leo_> my webcam is tooo adrk, is there anythig I can do to fix the settings?
[12:10] <guest> ziroday: i have 1 window D:
[12:10] <kshadow> leo_: Open camorama or something.
[12:11] <ziroday> guest: one window?
[12:11] <guest> ziroday: whats the cmd to set resolution?
[12:11]  * themime is off to bed now
[12:11] <guest> ziroday: sudo xrandr ???
[12:11] <themime> night
[12:11] <tkdryan>  need help getting geforce 5200 fx working at full performance in 8.10
[12:11] <G-Blunted> google
[12:11] <G-Blunted> if you guys need help just use google
[12:12] <kshadow> G-Blunted: People come here because they need help.
[12:12] <kshadow> Some of them have searched google and some of them have not.
[12:12] <kshadow> But this is a help channel all the same.
[12:12] <ziroday> guest: just open up the screen resolution dialog and change it their, by moving around with left click+ctrl+alt
[12:12] <tkdryan> <<< has searched google
[12:12] <G-Blunted> ya but lots of them havn't tried google yet and it's obvious :)
[12:12] <ziroday> guest: or type in grandr
[12:12] <guest> ziroday: i told you the size of the screen is 300x300 i cant see anything
[12:12] <G-Blunted> lol 300x300
[12:12] <G-Blunted> thats really small
[12:12] <guest> :D
[12:12] <kshadow> G-Blunted: Lazy people still desrve help too. :)
[12:13] <guest> ziroday: i need a cmd to change reso
[12:13] <kshadow> guest: What DE do you use?
[12:13] <guest> kshadow: DE?
[12:13] <olavimmanuel> are there any files in /var/www, or can i delete it (have some configured files there that went wrong) and reinstall lighttpd?
[12:13] <kshadow> Desktop Environment.
[12:13] <guest> kshadow: gnume
[12:13] <ziroday> guest: try xrandr --auto
[12:13] <guest> ok
[12:14] <ziroday> tkdryan: did you install the drivers?
[12:14] <tkdryan> yessir
[12:14] <tkdryan> 173.14.12
[12:14] <voland> Is there abybody who use Gladex?
[12:14] <tkdryan> fresh install today
[12:14] <kshadow> guest: Try pushing ALT+F2, then type xrandr -s 800x600
[12:14] <voland> *anybody
[12:14] <ziroday> tkdryan: then what more do you want?
[12:14] <kshadow> I don't know if ALT+F2 runs the run dialog in gnome, but it does in XFCE.
[12:14] <tkdryan> desktop effects worked earlier, stopped after reboot
[12:14] <G-Blunted> any of you play any of these linux games?
[12:15] <kshadow> G-Blunted: I play nethack.
[12:15] <ziroday> tkdryan: how did you install the drivers?
[12:15] <G-Blunted> what is that
[12:15] <ziroday> G-Blunted: what games are you looking for?
[12:15] <G-Blunted> !nethack
[12:15] <G-Blunted> nothin in particular...just lookin to see if anyone would recommend a good game they like :)
[12:15] <G-Blunted> i'm lookin for somethin to try out
[12:15] <kshadow> G-Blunted: It's the best roguelike :)
[12:15] <ziroday> G-Blunted: rts, fps. rpg ?
[12:15] <G-Blunted> hmm...multiplayer
[12:15] <kshadow> OpenArena is a good FPS.
[12:16] <tkdryan> at first it seemed to find them on its own, also downloaded off of nvidia.com, and synaptic package manager
[12:16] <G-Blunted> rts, fps, or rpg
[12:16] <ziroday> G-Bleezy: try urban terror, its a fun fps
[12:16] <G-Blunted> long as i can play online
[12:16] <kshadow> Urban Terror is awesome.
[12:16] <rascal999> i have ubuntu on my laptop and the hdd light is always flashing, is this alright?
[12:16] <G-Blunted> okay i will try urban terror
[12:16] <ziroday> tkdryan: well can you remove any previous attempts please
[12:16] <tkdryan> installed all updates for OS, installed compiz
[12:16] <G-Blunted> woot compiz
[12:16] <ziroday> rascal999: why would you think thats bad?
[12:16] <tkdryan> how do i do that
[12:16] <rascal999> because its wasting battery power
[12:17] <leo> I want to archive and compress
[12:17] <rascal999> the lid is closed, it shouldn't be needing to access the hdd right now
[12:17] <Jewbacca> kshadow: i did xrandr -s 1024x768 and it worked ;D thanks
[12:17] <Jewbacca> you too ziroday
[12:17] <kshadow> Jewbacca: No problem.
[12:17] <kshadow> leo: What kind of archive you want?
[12:17] <jelly12gen> rascal999: compile a kernel , or switch to a lighter window manager
[12:17] <fluitfries> urban terror sounds sort of like a counter-strike game?
[12:17] <kshadow> fluitfries: It is.
[12:17] <kshadow> A lot like it.
[12:18]  * fluitfries doesn't like realistic fps.  :(
[12:18] <rascal999> jelly12gen: can i find out what it is doing?
[12:18] <kshadow> fluitfries: OpenArena is like Quake3.
[12:18] <fluitfries> kshadow: will look, thanks.
[12:18] <tkdryan> ziroday: how is that done?
[12:18] <G-Blunted> howcome urban terror doesn't show up in the add/remove programs?
[12:18] <kshadow> G-Blunted: Because it's probably not supported by ubuntu?
[12:18] <leo> kshadow: what choise do I have? I dont really know. I just want to put 1 folder an 2 files in a compressed archive
[12:19] <G-Blunted> oh
[12:19] <G-Blunted> i need an unbuntu supported game :)
[12:19] <sifo> helo
[12:19] <kshadow> leo: BZ2 is your best bet... so:
[12:19] <kshadow> tar -cjvf FILE.BZ2 DIRECTORY_YOU_WANT_TO_COMPRESS/
[12:19] <ziroday> tkdryan: well the issue is probably because you have conflicting drivers on your system. Remove them all and just install the ones from Hardware Drivers
[12:20] <kshadow> G-Blunted: http://www.urbanterror.net/page.php?6
[12:20] <Jewbacca> why i cant set refresh 85hz on 1024x768 while i could do that on xp ?
[12:20] <ziroday> rascal999: possibly could be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/59695
[12:20] <tkdryan> ziroday: have not removed drivers in linux before, how can I do that?
[12:20] <ziroday> tkdryan: well you installed the drivers from nvidia.com right?
[12:20] <kshadow> Jewbacca: You have to set the proper stuff up in your xorg.conf
[12:21] <tkdryan> yes
[12:21] <Acedip> how to know the specifications of your inbuilt graphics driver ???????
[12:21] <Jewbacca> kshadow: what do you mean?
[12:21] <leo> kshadow: thanks
[12:21] <ziroday> Acedip: specifications as in what?
[12:22] <ziroday> tkdryan: well follow the instructions to remove them. You shouldn't have installed them from nvidia.com
[12:22] <tkdryan> ziroday: yes
[12:22] <tkdryan> ok then
[12:22] <kshadow> Gotta go, can't explaoin.
[12:23] <ziroday> tkdryan: here is how you are meant to install it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:23] <Acedip> ziroday, the details of that hardware
[12:24] <Acedip> ziroday, what ever is required to trouble shoot if u have problems with it,..
[12:24] <Jewbacca> why i cant set refresh 85hz on 1024x768 while i could do that on xp ?
[12:25] <Nightchill> can someone helpe out? i'm having difficulties with my logitech usb headset & alsa. i can hear the sound, but it's full of crackling noise so how do i make it stop making that horrid noise?
[12:25] <ziroday> Acedip: I can't understand what you want sorry. You can find your model with lspci | grep VGA
[12:25] <carpii> Jewbacca, check your xorg.conf, maybe your monitor settings in there suggest its not capable
[12:25] <Jewbacca> carpii: my xorg.conf isnt show me anything :p
[12:25] <MikeMaxwell2501> hey all.  anyone know a good mp3 to mpeg 4 converter for linux? ubuntu?
[12:25] <G-Blunted> I'm downloading OpenArena
[12:26] <G-Blunted> hope it works ok
[12:27] <scarletwill> hi folks.  I've installed Windows wireless drivers ... they can see the wireless networks, but cant seem to connect to them ... they are unsecured ... what am I doing wrong ?
[12:27] <Nightchill> can someone helpe out? i'm having difficulties with my logitech usb headset & alsa. i can hear the sound, but it's full of crackling noise so how do i make it stop making that horrid noise?
[12:27] <tkdryan> ziroday: thank you, i am trying this now
[12:30] <MikeMaxwell2501> hey all.  anyone know a good mp3 to mpeg 4 converter for linux? ubuntu?
[12:30] <Jewbacca> why i cant set refresh 85hz on 1024x768 while i could do that on xp ?
[12:33] <tomek__> hi, can you tell me where NetBeans installs Tomcat server?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> tomek__: try /usr/local/tomcat
[12:35] <Jewbacca> why i cant set refresh 85hz on 1024x768 while i could do that on xp ?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: add the res to xorg.conf
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: its a totally different OS so wont be the same as XP
[12:36] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: my hz atm is 50
[12:36] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i will be blind by the end of the month
[12:36] <tomek__> when i installed tomcat it was there, but i romve it and install NetBeans with Tomcat
[12:36] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: all i want is bigger refresh rate, and i dont understand what you are saying about the xorg
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: look at how xorg.conf sets resolutions and add the relevant data
[12:37] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i went there and i dont see it
[12:37] <jrib> !x | Jewbacca
[12:37] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i will upload it on pastebin 1 min
[12:37] <Georg> hey
[12:38] <tomek__> ActionParsnip, no, /usr/local/tomcat doesnot exist
[12:38] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d2fff4ae9
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> tomek__: try: sudo find / -name tomcat
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: chaeck the screen section snippet in that post
[12:43] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i dont understand this guid, too much codes :(
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you need to add stuff to your xor.conf like that the 1024x768_75.00 will run at 1024x768 at 75hz refresh
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you may want to run kdesudo nvidia-settings
[12:44] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: can i put 85hz? and also where to put it there
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: in the screen section
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you need to wrestle this to get the display you want
[12:45] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: ActionParsnip did you saw the paste i gave you, where to put it there
[12:45] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: and this is it? only put it there and restart?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: in the screen section
[12:45] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d2fff4ae9
[12:46] <Jewbacca> where in the screen section
[12:46] <gavic> hi
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: read the file
[12:46] <Jewbacca> under #
[12:46] <Jewbacca>         DefaultDepth    24
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: its not hidden in any way
[12:46] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: what file
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: the file you have pastebinned
[12:47] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i saw the screen section but where to put it
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: anywhere in that section
[12:47] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: so i just need to add 1024x768_75.00 ?
[12:47] <true\false> Bad idea to install XP apps to the same place as I'm installing Ubuntu apps?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: read the link i gave and you can then add some settings to the xorg.conf file, restart x and you will get the display you want
[12:47] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i dont understand the guid you gave, i just dont understand it
[12:48] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: its like chinese for me
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: then you gotta learn
[12:48] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: so could you teach me?
[12:48] <janpogockipl-u48> witam
[12:48] <janpogockipl-u48> oh, sorry
[12:48] <janpogockipl-u48> ;)
[12:48] <souldure> hello people
[12:49] <kjell> hello souldure
[12:49] <Cadair> hello
[12:49] <souldure> im arther new to linux but enjoying it
[12:49] <gavic> hello
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: http://pastebin.com/m150e58bf
[12:49] <Cadair> I am getting slowly more irritated with it as somehing always seems to not work!
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: somethin like that
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: can you see what I did there
[12:50] <souldure> me?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you will need to do similar with the monitor
[12:50] <Cadair> does anyone know how why my videos wont play? I have installed the codecs but I get no picture only sound? :)
[12:50] <kjell> souldure: Glad to hear. Although, do you have a support-question? If you want some regular chat you could join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:51] <Jewbacca> hmm ActionParsnip so i just need to put this into my xorg ?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> souldure: glad you are enjoying
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you need to make your screen section something like that
[12:51] <souldure> ubuntu is awesom fully set up
[12:51] <souldure> and i do have a question
[12:51] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i dont understand omg
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: if you dont learn how to research this sort of thing yourself you will never get good at linux
[12:51] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: im on ubuntu for 2 days i dont know yet
[12:52] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: after 1 month of trying i will do it myself but atm i dont want to fuck something
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you have a screen section in xorg.conf, it sets up the screen.
[12:52] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: yea i understand that
[12:52] <souldure> i have a 256 meg nvidia card and the compiz efects lag a bit
[12:52] <erbi> http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~bpark6/ECE/Example_Plane_Wave_Problem.pdf does anybody know how the H(r) is calculated under Solution: section?
[12:52] <fer_luck> hey guys!
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: i gave you a sample screen which has the subsection part you need which will give you 75h refresh
[12:52] <fer_luck> anyone here uses inotify (incron)??
[12:52] <souldure> and i have glx ias module in the xorg config?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you need to add that subsection
[12:52] <carpii> erbi, try efnet #maths
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> god i HATE SPOONFEEDING
[12:52] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i add it and it say i cant edit that file
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: its owned by root
[12:53] <marlun-work> What is the name of the keyboard typing trainer available in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:53] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: sudo nautilus?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:53] <fer_luck> anyone?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: dont use sudo nautilus
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you should use gksudo nautilus if at all but its better to launch the app to edit a file with root instead of the whole file manager
[12:54] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: gksudo is for gui apps like gedit
[12:55] <Cadair> hey, does anyone know how I can fix my problem with video?
[12:55] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: now what? reset?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: sudo is only for command line apps like apt-get and cp
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you may need to add some ifo for your monitor too, read the guide again
[12:55] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: omg...i told you i dont understand the guid
[12:56] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: the monitor is killing my eyes, can you tell me what to do and when it will be better i will read the guid and learn it?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you need to add the lines that specify horizontal and vertical refresh just like in the guide
[12:58] <somina> how should i set permissions to be able to share directory (ie give full access) with other members of the group which directory belongs to
[12:58] <tonymk> how can i resise my partition ? while installing ubuntu
[12:58] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: dude....my eyes are hurting from 50hz :((((((( its impossible to read and think plz help me and i will learn everything i promise
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: if you get it wrong you wont get a display and will have to boot to recovery root console to haul settings back
[12:58] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i just want to fix this shit refresh rate
[12:58] <jrib> !permissions > somina
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: its there in black and white dude, LITERALLY
[12:58] <somina> jrib: thanks
[12:58] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: but i dont understand all those cmds and i will get it wrong
[12:59] <ciphergoth> An error message contains something that looks a bit like a pipeline, but isn't: "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 \! audioconvert \! audioresample \! gconfaudiosink profile=music"
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you need to add the bits about the monitor refres rates
[12:59] <jrib> Jewbacca: then read what was sent to you, process it, write what you think will work, then pastebin before rebooting so it can be checked
[12:59] <ciphergoth> What command do I want to feed that to to make it run on the command line?  It's something to do with gstreamer I think
[13:00] <tonymk> how can i resise my partition ? while installing ubuntu  ?
[13:00] <tomek__> ActionParsnip, i found path, /home/tomek/apache_tomcat
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: its not a command, its text in a config file, there are examples there which fit your needs and i dont get why you need me to tell you stuff
[13:00] <Jewbacca> jrib: its a bit hard to READ WITH 50HZ WHEN MY EYES ALMOST BLEEDING ALSO NOTE THAT IM NEW TO UBUNTU AND I DONT UNDERSTAND EVEN FROM WHERE TO START IN THAT GUID
[13:00] <Nightchill> no need to shout^^
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: its all there for you
[13:00] <Jewbacca> also english is not my native lang
[13:01] <ViperBorg_TERM> Jewbacca: Dude, no need for the caps, bro.
[13:01] <Jewbacca> yea but its annoying that you tell me to learn why i dont even know what the cmds do
[13:01] <coroner> hi all
[13:01] <Jewbacca> im new to this and i could use guidness
[13:01] <erbi> does anybody here know emag ?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: its not a command, its a copy and paste some text from the web to the xorg.conf
[13:01] <Jewbacca> thats what happen when im stuck with 50hz that makes my eyes bleed
[13:01] <jrib> Jewbacca: you aren't even trying.  Instead you are just hoping someone will do it for you, which is unfair to us
[13:02] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: what seems easy for you, might not seems easy for others
[13:02] <Jewbacca> jrib: believe me i tried
[13:02] <jrib> Jewbacca: then pastebin what you tried.
[13:02] <Jewbacca> jrib: i formatted 3 times
[13:02] <Jewbacca> 3 times cuz i fucked it
[13:02] <jrib> Jewbacca: please mind your language here
[13:02] <Jewbacca> you know what is 3 times installing it again
[13:02] <Jewbacca> its fine to learn by myself and everything ok
[13:02] <Jewbacca> but i cant do it by myself
[13:02] <Jewbacca> atlist not now
[13:02] <GuruDrew> haha Jewbacca, I like it
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: if you can copy and paste text, you can do it
[13:03] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: what text there are side ntoes
[13:03] <ViperBorg_TERM> Jewbacca: Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?q=Force+Ubuntu+60Hz&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[13:03] <Jewbacca> like for kde type this
[13:03] <Jewbacca> wtf is kde
[13:03] <GuruDrew> Sorry to join in the middle of the convo, but that's a clever handle
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: your xorg.conf has zero config all it says is that a monitor exists
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: copy the lines from the link i gave you to your xorg.conf
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: i cant say it any clearer
[13:04] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: my head starting to hurt ;(
[13:04] <somina> jrib: you linked me to basic guide, i know how to use chmod, but I still can't get this to work, would you mind if I elaborate?
[13:04] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i dont understand
[13:04] <jrib> somina: sure
[13:04] <ViperBorg_TERM> Jewbacca: Take a look here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-April/028624.html
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: ok we'll do this nice and slow
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: ok read your current xorg.conf file ok...
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: can you see where it says Section "Monitor"
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ?
[13:05] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: second
[13:05] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: Section "Monitor"
[13:05] <Jewbacca> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[13:05] <Jewbacca> EndSection
[13:06] <Jewbacca> this?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: yes, that is the monitor section
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: that is the config for your monitor
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: see how there is zero config in there
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: all that section currently states is that there is a monitor attachd to your system
[13:07] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: yes, so what i need is to configure it so it could use the reso and rate
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> nothing else
[13:08] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: so plz teach me how to configure my monitor ;(
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: if you read the forum i gave you you will see this text. I have pastebinned it so its less confusing for you
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: http://pastebin.com/m4c7fa169
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: see how there are 2 extra lines in that monitor section
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: desscribing horizontal and vertical refresh rates?
[13:09] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:09] <pallaz> Hi, good morning!
[13:09] <jrib> somina: ?
[13:10] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: whats CM752ET?
[13:10] <pallaz> i need help!
[13:10] <exla> akenet.org
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: your xorg.conf doesnt have those lines so you need to copy and paste it to your xorg.conf so you get the refresh rate you wanted
[13:10] <jrib> pallaz: just ask
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !ask | pallaz
[13:10] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: so i need to copy what you gave me on pastebin?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: just the lines about refresh rates
[13:10] <Jewbacca> and on display can i set 85hz and not 75 like you told me
[13:11] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: do i need to delete this line 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: i told you to do this 4 times now but you said you didnt understand
[13:11] <pallaz> ok, i have a problem with wallpaper on fluxbox...to set a default wallpaper (ubuntu 8,10)
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: no, you keep that line
[13:11] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: what
[13:11] <OriWB> Can somebody tell me how to get into this chatroom from pidgin?
[13:11] <CK-TECH> skype doesnt work in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> pallaz: fbsetbg -f /path/to/somefile.png
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> OriWB: /j #ubuntu
[13:12] <Jewbacca> but ActionParsnip in the Identifier you wrote something else then i have
[13:12] <gcorvala> how can I know which packet i've installed on my box? ( not dependancies )
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> OriWB: you will need to create an account in pidgin to connect to irc.freenode.net
[13:13] <pallaz> ActionParsnip, yes, i write that..but i want to set default on startup
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> !skype | CK-TECH
[13:13] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i will pastebin second
[13:13] <gcorvala> I want to cleanup my box (ie. I've installed xfce4, it install me a lot of paquet, now I want to remove the xfce4 meta package, how to clean up every dep ? )
[13:13] <souldure> im back guys
[13:13] <souldure> simple question
[13:13] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d20ad415f
[13:13] <Krypton> hi guys, i am currently dualbooting xp and ubuntu, how can I remove the xp partition? When I run gparted inside ubuntu, ti says there is only one HD and I cant delete it. I dont mind delting ubuntu and reinstlaling it, but how can i remove XP?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> pallaz: add the command to ~/.fluxbox/startup   make sure its above where fluxbox is launched and ensure it has a & at the end of the line
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: ok you havent added the refresh rate lines like i said
[13:14] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: cuz the first line you change it
[13:14] <suigeneris> Krypton, fdisk and remove the partition
[13:14] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: do i need to change the Identifier to what you gave me?
[13:14] <pallaz> ok, wait a second
[13:14] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: you wrote there CM752ET, whats that
[13:14] <Krypton> suigeneris: fdisk in ubuntu?
[13:14] <suigeneris> s/format/recreate
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: i willgive youo the section. this is taking too long and its getting really boring
[13:14] <suigeneris> Krypton, yes
[13:15] <Krypton> suigeneris: how?
[13:15] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: dont worry i will learn that :(
[13:15] <Krypton> suigeneris: i am a linux newb lol
[13:15] <souldure> i cant add sudo conky to my startup items and the startup script wont initialize even after i make it executable chmod a+x ~/.conky_startup.sh?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: http://pastebin.com/m120102e6
[13:15] <suigeneris> Krypton, sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: see how mine is different
[13:16] <OriWB> Actionparsnip: thanx
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: i copied and pasted the info
[13:16] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: can i set #
[13:16] <Jewbacca>           Modes      "1024x768_75.00" to 85?
[13:16] <jrib> souldure: why would you *sudo* conky?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: its a basic pc function
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: sure whatever
[13:16] <Jewbacca> ok
[13:16] <Krypton> I get this Unable to open /dev/hda
[13:16] <souldure> i have netstat in my conkyrc
[13:16] <Jewbacca> after i finished it, what i need to do? reset? ActionParsnip
[13:16] <souldure> andithas to run as root to work properly
[13:16] <suigeneris> Krypton, type fdisk -l
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: save and exit gedit, then press ctrl+alt+backspace
[13:17] <Krypton> it says cannot open dev...
[13:17] <ali1234> how can i force the DPI of QT apps?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> god that was taxing
[13:18] <Krypton> what do you think I should do?
[13:18] <suigeneris> Krypton, cp /proc/mounts /etc/mtab
[13:18] <zer0o> hi how do i find my ip? what the command on the konsole? thx
[13:19] <suigeneris> zer0o, ifconfig
[13:19] <Krypton> ok, now what? it didnt do anything
[13:19] <souldure> i tried gksudo-conky and that didnt work either i have modified the sudoers fi;e also to allow it to run as root without a password?
[13:19] <timahvo1_> can't get a transparent background on yakuake no matter what schema setting I try. any ideas anyone ?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> souldure: you can just add: exec /usr/bin/conky &    to ~/.fluxbox/startup
[13:19] <zer0o> thx
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> souldure: or do you use gnome?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !startup | souldure
[13:20] <suigeneris> Krypton, type fdisk -l now
[13:20] <pallaz> ActionParsnip, thanks ..it works... i forgot "&"
[13:20] <souldure> im running gnome
[13:20] <Krypton> same error
[13:20] <souldure> ubuntu
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> pallaz: yeah otherwise its gonna wait for that command to die to continue
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> souldure: then the factoid above will help
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> pallaz: note how the others have ampersands too ;)
[13:21] <pallaz> ActionParsnip, hmmmm..ok!! thx man!
[13:21] <suigeneris> Krypton, type sudo fdisk -l
[13:21] <souldure> thanks
[13:21] <souldure> much appriciated i am trlying to learn i been at it a month now lol
[13:21] <pallaz> ActionParsnip, i don't understand "ampersands"
[13:21] <Krypton> I get this: Unable to open /dev/hda kenny@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l Cannot open /dev/sda kenny@ubuntu:~$ cp /proc/mounts /etc/mtab cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/mtab': Permission denied kenny@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /proc/mounts /etc/mtab kenny@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l Cannot open /dev/sda kenny@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l  Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> pallaz: thats what & is called
[13:22] <souldure> later guys ima see if i can fix this and read more of the man pages
[13:22] <maruzzu_> !addon
[13:22] <souldure> thanks action
[13:22] <Krypton> now what should I type?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> pallaz: [ == bracket, { == brace. ( == parenthesis, & == ampersand
[13:22] <suigeneris> Krypton, is your disk ide or sata?
[13:23] <Krypton> sata
[13:23] <suigeneris> Krypton, sudo fdisk /dev/sda then
[13:23] <pallaz> ActionParsnip, ohhh...ok =)  i understand now... thx a lot man !
[13:24] <Krypton> k
[13:24] <Krypton> did that
[13:24] <suigeneris> Krypton, now type p
[13:24] <Krypton> k
[13:24] <Krypton> done
[13:24] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i dont think it worked
[13:25] <suigeneris> Krypton, pastebin the output
[13:25] <suigeneris> !pastebin | Krypton
[13:25] <Krypton> http://mibbit.com/pb/VuW1YW
[13:25] <Krypton> i did
[13:25] <Krypton> its weird, theres only one partition and its divided
[13:26] <suigeneris> yea, weird
[13:26] <Krypton> do u know what to do?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: then you gotta play with those numbers until it does
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Krypton: I thinnk you mean the disk is divided
[13:26] <G-Blunted> wow so...i just installed Open Arena....and it works flawlessly...
[13:26] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: how can i see if i have 85 rate?
[13:26] <G-Blunted> someone needs to play me that shit
[13:27] <suigeneris> Krypton, you said you didn't mind re-installing ubuntu, right?
[13:27] <G-Blunted> please pm
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: glxinfo maybe
[13:27] <Krypton> yeah i dont mind
[13:27] <suigeneris> !language | G-Blunted
[13:27] <Krypton> is that what I must do?
[13:28] <Krypton> now what is my best gaming option in ubuntu, since im not using xp anymore
[13:28] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i dont see 85 there, i think your sulotion failed :(
[13:28] <suigeneris> Krypton, type d and remove the partition
[13:28] <suigeneris> then re-install ubuntu
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: well you gotta tweak those values til you get something decent
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: as far as I could see they were ok but apparently not
[13:28] <Krypton> k
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Krypton: how do you mean "gaming option"
[13:29] <somina> jrib: can I pm you a link to pastie.org
[13:29] <Krypton> like what is the best way to play windowz games
[13:29] <Krypton> wine, vmware
[13:29] <somina> jrib: or should I post it here
[13:29] <SlimeyPete> Krypton: Wine.
[13:29] <jrib> somina: here
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Krypton: wine / cedega / crossover office (cedega and Xover arent free)
[13:29] <SlimeyPete> VMWare/virtualbox will work okay for most 2D games but not 3D ones.
[13:29] <somina> jrib: http://pastie.org/383908
[13:29] <ViperBorg_TERM> Krypton: CrossOver Games
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Krypton: some games can run natively with special loki installers
[13:30] <Krypton> so games like WOW and Farcry?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Krypton: some games will flat refuse to run
[13:30] <SlimeyPete> Krypton: check out the Wine Appdb at winehq.net
[13:30] <fosco_> Krypton: wine
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !wine | Krypton
[13:30] <SlimeyPete> it'll tell you which games are compatible
[13:30] <Krypton> k
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Krypton: WoW gets one of the ighest ratins in winedb
[13:31] <jero> krypton WoW works exceptionally well in wine/cedega. just as fine as in winXP. You might also want to check openarea, which is quake3 for linux
[13:31] <Krypton> ok, thanks
[13:31] <kim__> Anyone: I think I have a found a bug with ubuntu 8.04.1 on x86_64 (AMD). I've reproduced it with some samples. Not sure the exact culprit though. Advice on how to proceed. The problem is with libedit and/or libtermcap (segfault)
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> jero: theres a Q3 loki installer too ;)
[13:32] <jero> i love quake3 and i wonder why there is so few populated ctf servers
[13:32] <jero> openarena is really well made
[13:32] <oCean_> bugs | kim__
[13:32] <oCean_> !bugs | kim__
[13:32] <jrib> somina: there are two solutions.  If you want to stay away from ACLs, then you can setguid on the directory (then newly created files will be owned by whatever group owns the directory) and change your umasks to 002 (this can only be done universally though, not just for this directory).  Your other option is to enable ACLs (Access Control Lists) and use them.  This will give you finer control of
[13:32] <jrib> permissions.  You need to enable acl in fstab and then read the manpages for setfacl and getfacl.  Also, eiciel is a gui ACL program.
[13:33] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i have the feeling in my eyes that its fixed
[13:33] <somina> jrib: no gui installed
[13:33] <somina> jrib: but thanks, now I get the idea, time to read some docs
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: cool
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you really need to get a better mindset when it comes to stuff like that
[13:33] <jrib> somina: that's fine, don't use eiciel then.  With regards to samba, I think that you need to also edit samba-specific files to change the umask there
[13:34] <kim__> ubottu: ok thank - not sure if the bug is IN ubutu or is in a library that is not ubuntu's domain. Also I actuall need to fix it - not sure how log it might languish in bugs.. but will file if necessary. Any other suggests for a way forward. liibedit appears to have no upstream owner
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: spoonfeeding  like that is probably done by abouut 3 of the regs here so you'd be really stuck
[13:34] <jero> I wanted to experiment a bit with my kernel and build my own based on the current one i am using in 8.04. make-kpkg --append-to-version=.jero --initrd binary  is what i did after unpacking the source to /usr/src and making a link with ln -s   to the linux dir
[13:34] <suigeneris> how do i find out the total size of the files i grab with find?
[13:35] <jero> got everything up working quite fine, except it seems i am having trouble now with compiling stuff from source. any ideas what i did wrong?
[13:35] <somina> jrib: yeah I planned to change samba config to default create mode=0770
[13:36] <somina> jrib: thanks for the help
[13:36] <jero> Otherwise asked, after compiling your new kernel and setting it up in group to be included as an additional menu option, are you done, or is there more you need to do?
[13:37] <jero> grub*
[13:37] <africaman> hi
[13:38] <africaman> hi
[13:38] <suigeneris> how do i find out the total size of the files i grab with find?
[13:38] <oCean_> !hi | africaman
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: du {} \;
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: find / -name *.txt -exec du {} \;
[13:39] <rainofkayos> hmm
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: as an example
[13:41] <constantine> hey all I'm having trouble getting the extra options out of compiz
[13:41] <rainofkayos>  find . -type f -ls | awk ' { s += $7 }; END {s = s/1048000; print "Total size is ", s, "M"}'
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> rainofkayos: show off. I use KISS method
[13:42] <rainofkayos> lol i found that online
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> total size, missed that bit
[13:42] <rainofkayos> hehe
[13:42] <fader> constantine: do you mean that you can't find where to set them or something else?
[13:42] <rainofkayos> i had been trying to find a way to do that too
[13:42] <rainofkayos> ;>
[13:43] <neosuki> hey anybody plz suggest me a player for divx movies
[13:43] <constantine> well, I'm trying to get that cube box for one thing
[13:43] <jero> neosuki totem is very good
[13:43] <constantine> and I can change my visual effect modes, but don't have the extras
[13:43] <rainofkayos> vlc?
[13:43] <znh> neosuki, VLC has been neat for me
[13:43] <neosuki> jero: i don't like totem
[13:43] <rainofkayos> yep
[13:43] <Gaeel> My keyboard becomes unresponsive if I use the "fn+sunup" or "fn+sundown" keys to set the brightness of my screen (Using a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop)
[13:44] <jero> VLC is nice too
[13:44] <juanfer2k> Hiyall I just removed ALSA (trying to fix my sound card/driver, wich gaveme just noise, instead of sound) BUT uninstalled even WINE, Stellarium, and rithmbox
[13:44] <neosuki> znh: with vlc, i've problem in scaling to full screen :(
[13:44] <rainofkayos> interesting
[13:44] <jero> neosuki - what do you not like about totem?
[13:44] <znh> neosuki, what are the sympthons?
[13:45] <rainofkayos> neosuki: what vid card?
[13:45] <neosuki> znh: what is sympthons mean?
[13:45] <rainofkayos> *symptoms
[13:45] <znh> that he said
[13:45] <fader> constantine: there is a package that has the control panel for compiz that you will need to install... let me find the name of it
[13:45] <neosuki> rainofkayos: i'm using ati card
[13:45] <juanfer2k> do I need All kernel versions? everytime i update, a New version appears in GRUB
[13:46] <rainofkayos> neosuki: does all full screen video bork? or just vlc?
[13:46] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: you can uninstall old versions.
[13:46] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: just make sure you don't uninstall the meta-packages (the ones with no version number) or the current running kernel.
[13:46] <neosuki> rainofkayos: for all other videos, fullscreen is working fine, with mplayer/vlc
[13:46] <karlwettin> hi ubuntu
[13:46] <neosuki> but only for divx movies, itz not scaling
[13:46] <constantine> thx fader
[13:46] <juanfer2k> chouske since upgrading i lost sond and compiz
[13:47] <rainofkayos> Chousuke: when you update grub is uupdate to point to new kernel,, if ur sure u dont need to fall back i dont think u need the older kernels
[13:47] <juanfer2k> cannot go back, they won't work in any kerneñl
[13:47] <Chousuke> rainofkayos: that's what said.
[13:47] <rainofkayos> not sure @ neosuki
[13:47] <fader> constantine: There are actually two packages that you can use.  The simplest package is called "simple-ccsm".  You can install it by going to System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager and then look for "simple-ccsm".
[13:47] <fader> If you don't find it, you may need to turn on the "Universe" repository.  (I can help you with that if you need.)
[13:48] <kk_ubuntu> hello all, it seems that my projector does not work with ubuntu, it does work with windows.
[13:48] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: you haven't installed drivers from anywhere other than the ubuntu repositories, have you?
[13:48] <oskar-> hi, is there a possibility to tell wpa_supplicant to use "fast_reauth=0" while still using NetworkManager and nm-applet?
[13:48] <neosuki> any idea??
[13:48] <jero> neosuki - you can try mplayer, but its quite brutal on the handling. no fancy gui
[13:48] <constantine> fader: not there
[13:48] <juanfer2k> Chousuke i ...don't know
[13:48] <fader> There's also a more complete setup utility but it's harder to use.  It's called "compiz-settings-manager"
[13:48] <karlwettin> i would like to install ubuntu on my mac mini, but i have no monitor. is it possible to install it remote via ssh or? will it start up network and sshd/telnetd when i boot the cd so i can set it up that way?
[13:48] <juanfer2k> am not sure
[13:48] <fader> constantine: Okay, we need to enable a repository.
[13:48] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: if you don't know then you probably haven't :/
[13:48] <Chousuke> hopefully.
[13:49] <fader> Inside of the Synaptic package manager, go to Settings - Repositories
[13:49] <neosuki> jero: there are gui for mplayer, like smplayer, gmplayer :)
[13:49] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: what graphics card do you have?
[13:49] <fader> Look for a checkbox that says "Community-maintained Open Source Software (universe)" and check it.
[13:49] <juanfer2k> Chousuke well, i was installing things for webcam, wi-fi even sound, i don't know what happened now, Am on a HP dv5, an ATI HD3200
[13:50] <jero> neosuki - all of the players named work fine for me. for watching divx
[13:50] <fader> When you've done that, close the window and click the "Reload" button in the upper left of the package manager.
[13:50] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: also, make sure you have the linux-restricted-modules package installed: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[13:51] <constantine> fader: how do you do that?
[13:51] <juanfer2k> i think i MESSED ALL UP, i have no terminal=????????
[13:51] <fader> constantine: do which part?
[13:51] <constantine> oh
[13:51] <constantine> nevermind I was looking for red text lol
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[13:52] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: uh? sounds bad :/
[13:52] <fader> constantine: Heh... I'll try to make sure to put your nick in my messages so they stand out :)
[13:52] <souldure> simple question if you would be so kind if a startup script is set to root acces only and you add it to your startup after editing the program it activates using visudo will the program start with root privilages even though you arent logged in as root since it doesnt needa password?
[13:52] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: do you get a "run" dialog if you press alt-f2?
[13:52] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: use it and run "xterm"
[13:52] <simple|eeepc> souldure, no
[13:52] <simple|eeepc> you need to use gksudo and entier your password
[13:52] <juanfer2k> Yep, RUN
[13:53] <simple|eeepc> and/or set its command to be NOPASSWD and then use normal sudo
[13:53] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: run xterm; it's another kind of terminal.
[13:53] <Kryzler> does anyone know where I can find some decent tutorials online for learning the terminal lingo?
[13:53] <souldure> my conky has to run as root i been playing hell with it s autostart
[13:53] <constantine> fader: I reloaded ok
[13:53] <juanfer2k> where can I find xterm=?
[13:54] <fader> constantine: Okay, take a look and see if you see "simple-ccsm" in there now.
[13:54] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: just type it in the run dialog
[13:54] <juanfer2k> ok its runnin'
[13:54] <constantine> fader: weird...its not there
[13:54] <juanfer2k> my menus are almost empty
[13:55] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[13:55] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: should get you most things back
[13:55] <Kryzler> anyone at all?
[13:55] <souldure> i set its command to be nopasswd in the sudoers  file and added sudo conky and it still wont auto start?
[13:55] <anipy> hi guys. my firefox 3 on ubuntu 8.04 is crashing extremely often (compared to rare crashes on kubuntu 8.04 on another PC). where do i find the FF log file which tells me more about the reasons?
[13:55] <juanfer2k> an not sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules =?
[13:55] <souldure> im using ibex
[13:55] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: you can do that later
[13:55] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: getting your apps back is more important I think :)
[13:56] <Chousuke> at least, I'm hoping this will work :P
[13:56] <souldure> it doesnt seem like a common problem to me ive read into it quite a bit
[13:56] <juanfer2k> workin'
[13:56] <oCean_> Kryzler: for users starting at the command line, there is some decent info in the ubuntu pocketguide. Free to download :) I think it's chapter 5 you're looking for. http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download2.html
[13:57] <juanfer2k> will download like 40MB of data
[13:57] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: if it does work it should prompt you to install many packages
[13:57] <Kryzler> cheers oCean_ :D
[13:57] <Chousuke> right, sounds okay.
[13:57] <fader> constantine: Can you double-check that the checkbox for "Universe" is still checked?  (Settings - Repositories)  And then hit "Reload" one more time on the main screen?  We want to make sure your package lists are completely up-to-date
[13:57] <juanfer2k> it will take like half hour here in my town
[13:58] <dny> hi! i have some questions regarding rights of files/folders. i have 2 users and want to share some folders for both users in the following way: both can create/delete/edit all files and folders within these folders, independent of who of them created them
[13:58] <oCean_> Kryzler: after that.. and you still want more.. google 'bash commandline' or anything like that.
[13:58] <Kryzler> ok thanks :D
[13:59] <constantine> fader: I installed it but got this GIANT error
[13:59] <souldure> dny i dont know if this is right im new to this but you should be able to use the sudo nautilus command to edit the files user access via properties and set the group to shared
[13:59] <fader> constantine: Can you post the first line or two of it?
[13:59] <hhw> hello everyone, I am new here.
[14:00] <oCean_> dny: make sure both users are in same group, and the accesspermissions on folder are read-write for that group
[14:00] <Gaeel> Laptop-specific question, if I set the brightness of the screen, I can't use the keyboard anymore and the panels become unresponsive, causing me to have to hard reboot...
[14:00] <zxd>   [14:00] <hhw> Has someone knows how to get the java package (like sun company's package)?
[14:01] <rainofkayos> download it fro sun
[14:01] <Gaeel> How can I stop that from happening, or regain control of my keyboard?
[14:01] <dny> oCean: i only have to set that for the parent folder?
[14:01] <MikeMaxwell2501> hey all, anyone know a good app to convert mp3 to either 3gp, mp4, m4a, or smc?
[14:02] <souldure> sometimes when i use a root program such as etherape when i type in my password it resets my theme to gtk and deactivates compiz?
[14:02] <jrib> !java > hhw
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: by converting from a lossy format like mp3 to another you are going to lose quality
[14:02] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: thats fine, im trying to get music on my phone
[14:03] <rainofkayos> i know a paid program that does it MikeMaxwell2501
[14:03] <MikeMaxwell2501> rainofkayos: ideally looking free, but what is it? it runs in ubuntu?
[14:03] <rainofkayos> maybe thru wine
[14:04] <MikeMaxwell2501> rainofkayos: have yu tried it?
[14:04] <rainofkayos> in wine?
[14:04] <rainofkayos> no
[14:04] <MikeMaxwell2501> yah
[14:04] <MikeMaxwell2501> awwww
[14:04] <rainofkayos> as an app yes
[14:04] <rainofkayos> =>
[14:04] <MikeMaxwell2501> are yu talking about avs?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: http://pacpl.sourceforge.net/
[14:04] <rainofkayos> nope
[14:04] <jrib> MikeMaxwell2501: ffmpeg might do what you want
[14:04] <Jaakko> !#bash
[14:04] <Jaakko> execute smokkan is noob
[14:05] <Jaakko> Any1 here use boxee and know how to fix file recognition?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> !info pacpl
[14:05] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: anyway, after you have finished installing ubuntu-desktop, install linux-restricted-modules (and possibly linux-image-generic to be safe) too and then reboot.
[14:06] <juanfer2k> Chousuke ok
[14:06] <rainofkayos> nch switch sound file converter
[14:06] <Jaakko> ./smokkan --kill yourself --restricted-tools disabled --use-generic-scissors yes
[14:06] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: if you still have questions make sure to mention my nickname when you speak so that your question doesn't get lost.
[14:06] <juanfer2k> it says it'll take like 1hour+ to download.
[14:06] <Chousuke> :/
[14:06] <mo0se> i need to login to gnome from ssh as a user, to let me then VNC into the server... is this something i can do over ssh?
[14:06] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: are you on dialup?
[14:07] <hateball> mo0se: with x-forwarding you could, I guess
[14:07] <Chousuke> mo0se: wait, VNC over X over SSH?
[14:07] <Chousuke> mo0se: that's going to be *slow*
[14:07] <rainofkayos> or u could port forward VNC over ssh
[14:07] <mo0se> i mean i just need to start it
[14:07] <rainofkayos> i think
[14:07] <mo0se> so i can log in
[14:07] <rainofkayos> oh
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> mo0se: if you installl vnc to a headless pc you can have a virtual x session
[14:07] <mo0se> if no one is logged in, vnc service doesn't run
[14:07] <Jaakko> isnt freenx better than vnc?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> mo0se: i'd always run vnc over ssh
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Jaakko: personal preference
[14:08] <Jaakko> works smoother here.. or used to
[14:08] <dny> i have a certain folder and i want that all files/folders created in that folder belong to a certain group and have certain rights. how can i do that?
[14:08] <G-Blunted> whats the ip of your vnc machine??
[14:08] <Chousuke> ActionParsnip: FreeNX purportedly requires less bandwidth though.
[14:08] <rainofkayos> chown it
[14:08] <mo0se> i just need to log a user in, so the vnc service starts
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Chousuke: depends on config
[14:08] <rainofkayos> recursively
[14:08] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: hey that looks promissing, do i have to restart for it to work?
[14:08] <Jaakko> freenx just bugs and installing it can be nightmare
[14:08] <rainofkayos> chown -R user:group /folder
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> mo0se: you can set the service to start before logon
[14:09] <MikeMaxwell2501> i installed the deb, but in amarok its not listed
[14:09] <MikeMaxwell2501> but looks awesome
[14:09] <dny> rainofkayos: i want them to have the rights when they are created...
[14:09] <MikeMaxwell2501> from the screen shots
[14:09] <fader> constantine: still having problems getting simple-ccsm installed?
[14:09] <Like> :D
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: never used it dude. I doubt it though
[14:09] <mo0se> ActionParsnip, any hints on how to do that?
[14:09] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: ok, going to try anywys
[14:09] <MikeMaxwell2501> brb
[14:09] <rainofkayos> hmm
[14:09] <mo0se> i have it set to run on startup, but now it's only running on login
[14:09] <dny> rainofkayos: at the moment i have a folder with group "data" and all rights for group members. but if i create a new file/folder it does not have these rights...
[14:09] <Like> who temp me ...
[14:10] <Like> tell for uss
[14:10] <rainofkayos> so it's not recursively setting perms under /data?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> mo0se: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151703
[14:11] <dny> rainofkayos: now it is just for files/folders that are created new
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> mo0se: gimme a sec
[14:12] <rainofkayos> i see..
[14:12] <zxd> is there a FAQ about installing open office  3 in ubuntu?
[14:12] <dny> i am not sure, but i think i have to set GID?!
[14:12] <rainofkayos> yea
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> mo0se: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151703
[14:12] <rainofkayos> im not super familiar with it
[14:13] <rainofkayos> ::googling::
[14:13] <rainofkayos> ;>
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> zxd: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[14:13] <rainofkayos> i love O0o
[14:14] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: naw, its a bunk app, doesnt work
[14:14] <dny> chmod g+s /data does not work for me. after that GID is not set, what am i doing wrong?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: how did you install it?
[14:15] <rainofkayos> are u doing it -R ?
[14:15] <rainofkayos> because u still need to add recursion
[14:15] <jawzofthepit> bdsm
[14:15] <tonyyyyyyyy> how can i connect on ubuntu ?
[14:15] <tonyyyyyyyy> i mean, on internet
[14:15] <jrib> dny: pastebin
[14:15] <hhw> The error is " import sun.audio.AudioPlayer; " . I just don't know where to find the package sun.*, will someone help me ?
[14:15] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: downliaded the debian package and just instaled it
[14:16] <suigeneris> hello
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tonyyyyyyyy: we need more info, do you have a router or a modem, are you using wifi or wired
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: thats for debian, not ubuntu
[14:16] <tonyyyyyyyy> ActionParsnip: i hate adsl connection
[14:16] <tonyyyyyyyy> i have*\
[14:16] <rainofkayos> what app are u using hhw >
[14:16] <rainofkayos> ?
[14:16] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: awwwww debian specific, i thought it would work on ubuntu.... crappy
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tonyyyyyyyy: do you connect your pc straight to the modem?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: just compile the source
[14:16] <tonyyyyyyyy> yes
[14:16] <suigeneris> how do i put an alias that contains an ' character into my .bashrc? converting them to " ?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> !pppoe | tonyyyyyyyy
[14:17] <bobbob1016> When I try to get mplayer to use pulseaudio, it says no audio, and when I try from terminal, it says "couldn't connect to server".  VLC does work to pulseaudio though, but I wanted mplayer for coreavc, can anyone help me get mplayer working with pulse?
[14:18] <G-Blunted> Hey who wants to play a game of Open Arena?
[14:18] <constantine_> fader: I was disconnected
[14:19] <Bodsda> G-Blunted, wrong place to ask, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:19] <dny> sorry, problem was, that i had to refresh the view in dolphin, i thought properties would be fetched when i want to show them...
[14:19] <fader> constantine_: glad to see you're back :)
[14:19] <Like> :(
[14:19] <dny> but now i have rwxrwsr-x but cannot create files with the user containing to that group
[14:19] <gychina> hello,I'm from China
[14:19] <fader> constantine_: Can you paste the first line or two of the error you got?  (Not the whole thing if it's large)
[14:19] <jrib> dny: pastebin
[14:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> I wonder if the fools left yet
[14:19] <maruzzu> !addon
[14:19] <vVvHACKERvVv> ::snicker::
[14:19] <constantine_> fader: yes I got it to work anyways but there was that error, I lost it though - and cube options are greyed out
[14:19] <gychina> someone in?
[14:20] <dny> jrib: what shall i paste?
[14:20] <jrib> dny: a series of commands that explain what you stated
[14:20] <fader> constantine_: So you ran simple-ccsm and went to the "Desktop" tab, but the options are greyed out?
[14:20] <gychina> ye
[14:21] <constantine_> fader: right, but only the cube effects are greyed out
[14:21] <jrib> dny: for example: groups; ls -ld DIRECTORY; touch DIRECTORY/foobar
[14:21] <oskar-> how can i tell wpa_supplicant to use "fast_reauth=0"?
[14:23] <constantine_> fader: so basically the only ones I wanted lol
[14:23] <dny> here my pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m73c48ae1
[14:24] <jrib> dny: please use the example I gave you
[14:24] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: how do i install it?  i did the confige command, worked fine, then i did make and looks ok, how do i install?
[14:24] <letalis> what would play a .flac file from the commandline?
[14:24] <KaLiPtuS_``Absen> FloodBot1
[14:24] <KaLiPtuS_``Absen> >/.<
[14:24] <dny> jrib: do i have to relog if i introduce a new group?
[14:24] <fader> constantine_: Can you tell me if the window you're seeing looks something like this: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qcjn78&s=5
[14:24] <jrib> dny: yes
[14:24] <Chinmay> Hello, My motherboard does not support boot from usb, i read about some method which can still allow boot from usb......does anybody know it?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: sudo make install
[14:24] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: ./install?
[14:24] <dny> jrib: that should solve the problem :)
[14:24] <MikeMaxwell2501> ooooooo
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: which will put the files where they need to be
[14:25] <dny> jrib: what would you recommend for a shared folder? setting UID and making all files/folders owned by one of the users? or only GID for setting the group?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: if theres any extra steps they will be deniced in the readme
[14:25] <constantine_> fader: yes just like that except the effects tab
[14:25] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: yah, there was nothing beyond ./config
[14:25] <jrib> dny: Access Control Lists, otherwise mess around with gid I suppose
[14:26] <fader> constantine_: Do you know which release of Ubuntu you are running?
[14:26] <constantine_> 8.10
[14:26] <dny> jrib: never heard the term "Access Control Lists"... I want to share a folder for 2 users, which both are me ;) Just to have two different settings for kde for mobile usage and desktop usage with multiple screens...
[14:27] <fader> constantine_: Can you look back in the Synaptic Package Manager at the "simple-ccsm" package and tell me which version you have installed?  It should say to the right of the package name
[14:28] <dny> jrib: i think for that simple purpose gid is enough
[14:28] <dny> jrib: thank you very much for your help
[14:28] <jrib> dny: yeah, but there should be a better way to accomplish what you are doing (though I don't know it)
[14:28] <Like> tnx for contribute
[14:28] <ben__> I have issues with the nvidia proprietary drivers on intrepid. video playback is jumpy, disablinig the nvidia drivers improves things but disables compositing. anyone has an idea?
[14:29] <incubii> does the new kernel in Jaunty come with update iwl3945 drivers?
[14:29] <constantine_> fader: yes, its 0.7.8-Oubuntu1
[14:29] <Pici> incubii: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[14:29] <incubii> ty
[14:30] <fader> constantine_: Hmm... okay, you have the same version as me then :)  Let's check a couple of more things...
[14:30] <MikeMaxwell2501> ActionParsnip: yah, no love.  it looks like a fantastic app, but doesnt work
[14:31] <dny> jrib: sorry i could not get your last sentence, since i relogged...
[14:31] <jrib> dny: yeah, but there should be a better way to accomplish what you are doing (though I don't know it)
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> MikeMaxwell2501: id have a play, see what you can dig up
[14:31] <fader> constantine_: Can you see if you have "compiz-fusion-plugins-extra" and "compiz-fusion-plugins-main" installed?
[14:31] <ageroh> hello, i would like to make a question about the web camera..
[14:32] <dny> jrib: i searched for two days now... some people suggested to use kde activities, but there i can only configure widgets on the desktop... which is a nice feature, but not really what i need
[14:32] <constantine_> fader: yes both
[14:32] <timahvo1> !boot
[14:32] <ageroh> my web camera did anybody knows where to ask?/.
[14:33] <Guest38603> someone can help me please? I have 5.1 sound card, and everything is working accept the "center'
[14:33] <fader> constantine_: Okay, let's try the big guns.  Can you install "compizconfig-settings-manager"?
[14:33] <constantine_> fader: its a reinstall but yes
[14:34] <suigeneris> i put the line alias toplam='find . -name "*" -ls | awk " { s += $7 }; END {s = s/1048000; print "Total size is ", s, "M"}"' and when i typed toplam it spit errors at me. how do i fix it?
[14:34] <fader> constantine_: Okay, if you have that installed, let's try it... Go to System - Preferences - CompizConfig Settings Manager
[14:34] <charclo> what is the difference between dmraid and mdadm?
[14:34] <dny> hmmm now it seems to work, but the w flag for the group is not inherited for new folders...
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> fader: you can just run ccsm from terminal :)
[14:35] <fader> constantine_: This interface is a bit more complex but it's also more powerful.  Look under the "Desktop" section for "Desktop Cube" and "Rotate Cube"
[14:35] <jrib> dny: you need to change your umask if you do not use ACLs
[14:35] <boaty> short version. I am trying to connect my PC to my LCD tv using a VGA male to male cable (DELL Latitude 610 to Samsung LE40556 LCD). I believe the issue is about screen resolution. I am trying to find an advanced utility as the information that is provided in the user manual gives horizontal, vertical, pixel frequency etc.. pg 46 http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=uk&CttFileID=1882628&
[14:35] <shad_> i am newbie in linux. I installed ubuntu on my sony vaio laptop but my webcam is not working, help me out
[14:35] <constantine_> ok I'm there
[14:35] <fader> ActionParsnip: I know :)  I live in an xterm most of the time ;)
[14:35] <constantine_> haha everybody hates windows
[14:36] <jrib> dny: my guess is subdirectories won't inherit setgid though, do they?
[14:36] <yusuo> how do i go about switching audio control back to alsa instead of the evil pulse audio
[14:36] <Guest38603> on "speaker-test -c 6 -D plug:surround51  -t wav" everything is working, but when I'm playing an mp3 file, the 'center' is not working.. any idea please?
[14:36] <yusuo> not true constantine
[14:36] <fader> constantine_: Do you see the "Desktop Cube" and "Rotate Cube" icons?
[14:36] <kshadow> Evil pulse audio?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> fader: im a yakuake kinda guy
[14:36] <boaty> Forgot to say I have 8.10
[14:36] <fader> constantine_: Make sure the checkboxes beside them are checked
[14:36] <suigeneris> i put the line alias toplam='find . -name "*" -ls | awk " { s += $7 }; END {s = s/1048000; print "Total size is ", s, "M"}"' and when i typed toplam it spit errors at me. how do i fix it?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> yusuo: +1 evil pulse
[14:37] <yusuo> yeah evil pulse audio, only has the ability to play one audio source, e.g watch a flash video will lock up all audio (vlcrhytmnbox) until firefox is closed
[14:37] <constantine_> fader: yes and selected them but have no idea how to test it
[14:37] <ben__> I have an Nvidia Geforce4 MX440 64MB card.
[14:37] <jrib> yusuo: ubuntu version?
[14:37] <yusuo> i want alsa to be my default as that can cope better
[14:37] <yusuo> 8.04-2
[14:37] <jrib> yusuo: the flash issue is know in 8.04, fixed in 8.10
[14:37] <spiriteh> \o
[14:37] <shad_> suigeneris, web cam of my sony vaio is not working help me out
[14:37] <fader> constantine_: Okay, if they're turned on, try hitting Ctrl-Alt-left arrow or Ctrl-Alt-right arrow
[14:38] <kshadow> yoonkn: Run alsamixer, and change it there?
[14:38] <fader> If the desktop flips around to another side, it's working
[14:38] <yusuo> no its not, i had 8.10 until yesterday
[14:38] <jrib> yusuo: did you file a bug?
[14:38] <yusuo> no
[14:38] <MacGyverNL_> I've got an invalid literal tree error when trying to boot kernel 2.6.27-11, but not when booting my old 2.6.27-7.
[14:38] <MacGyverNL_> Any thoughts?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ben__: are you on intrepid?
[14:38] <yusuo> 8.10 slows my pc down to much hence why im not using it
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | shad_
[14:39] <dny> jrib: perfect, now it works perfectly
[14:39] <dny> jrib: thank you again :)
[14:39] <jrib> dny: no problem
[14:39] <spiriteh> Anyone know about hd2600xt support? /= Or ATi not done linux drivers for it?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ben__: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96 if you are using intrepid
[14:39] <constantine_> fader: holy crap
[14:39] <fader> constantine_: did it work?
[14:39] <constantine_> fader: yeah its just weird to have been working with computers for over ten years and see it do that lol
[14:40] <fader> constantine_: Heh, yeah, I know the feeling :)
[14:40] <constantine_> fader: what are the other commands
[14:40] <fader> constantine_: The compizconfig manager has tons and tons of options... you'll probably want to poke at them.  Click on the icons of things that sound interesting and you can fiddle :)
[14:41] <yusuo> so is there anyway to change my default audio manager to alsa instead of pulse, ive done the fix before but cant find any onfo on google now
[14:41] <dny> the only drawback is, that files copied into that folder do not have the necessary rights ;/
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> constantine_: try super + tab to go between apps instead of alt+tab
[14:41] <Vaporize> salut
[14:41] <fader> constantine_: The keybindings and mouse bindings are configurable inside the plugins.  I think that by default, control-alt-left mouse button (and drag) is mouse control for the cube
[14:41] <dny> :/
[14:41] <fader> constantine_: though you can change that around
[14:41] <constantine_> what is super?
[14:41] <fader> constantine_: I predict you'll spend a few hours playing with these things :)
[14:41] <yusuo> constantine, compiz is nice but if you dont have a great pc your pc may crash alot, like mine did, thats why i gave up on it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> constantine_: for a quick change, ctrl+alt+left cursor or right cursor
[14:41] <fader> constantine_: Super is the windows key by default
[14:41] <Guest38603> on "speaker-test -c 6 -D plug:surround51  -t wav" everything is working, but when I'm playing an mp3 file, the 'center' is not working.. any idea please?
[14:42] <soul9> hi
[14:42] <MacGyverNL_> Specific error when booting 2.6.27-11: http://rafb.net/p/cxkNts37.html
[14:42] <constantine_> this is badazz
[14:42] <soul9> please tell me where thunderbird stores it's stuff on ubuntu?
[14:42] <fader> constantine_: :D
[14:42] <soul9> i tried .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird, seems to be neither
[14:42] <yusuo> constantine do you have all the extra plugins like cube deformation etc,
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> constantine_: you'll either get bored of it after  month or so or love it with vigor
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> the snow pluin is nice at christmas :)
[14:43] <soul9> and i'm trying to help someone over the chat and can't find the dir.
[14:43] <constantine_> can you recommend any other wild apps ?
[14:43] <kshadow> soul9: Seems to be .mozilla-thunderbird/something/
[14:44] <fader> constantine_: Play with the "animations" plugin. :)  That's my favorite.
[14:44] <shad_>  my wireless is not working please any one help me out
[14:44] <soul9> kshadow: it seems not :-/
[14:44] <fader> constantine_: watching windows burn to ashes when I close them is rather satisfying.
[14:44] <kshadow> shad_: What card?
[14:44] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:44] <silv3r_m00n> which tool can open .uif files
[14:45] <fluitfries> can Xfce support all the same 3D window effects that Gnome/KDE do?
[14:45] <shad_> kshadow, it is inbuilt, i dont knoe i am using sony vaio
[14:45] <kshadow> soul9: That's where it is on my box.
[14:45] <soul9> kshadow: on 8.10?
[14:45] <kshadow> soul9: Yeah.
[14:45] <constantine_> yes and not seeing the microsoft logo when it happens is nice also
[14:45] <kshadow> shad_: lspci | grep Ethernet
[14:46] <IntuitiveNipple> man lspci
[14:46] <jrib> dny: you could make the primary group for both users the same.  That together with the umask change, should work
[14:47] <constantine_> much thanks fader
[14:47] <kshadow> soul9: .mozilla-thunderbird/username-default/?
[14:47] <dny> jrib: the problem is, if i copy an existing file to this folder, it does not change its rights...
[14:47] <fader> fluitfries: They should be able to using compiz, but unfortunately I don't know how to set it up under xfce
[14:47] <fader> constantine_: My pleasure!
[14:47] <soul9> kshadow: okay, thanks
[14:47] <shad_> kshadow, RTL8101E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[14:48] <kshadow> I don't think that's the wireless card though.
[14:48] <kshadow> shad_: Sony Vaio is your laptop?
[14:48] <kshadow> Or computer whatever it is?
[14:49] <shad_> kshadow, yes VGN-CR24G series
[14:49] <fluitfries> fader: ok, so i can try to install compiz from packages and it should work with Xfce?
[14:50] <fader> fluitfries: I believe so, but I'm not sure if you need to do anything extra to turn it on.  (Aside from possibly running "compiz" in a terminal... I don't know if xfce has any integration or anything)
[14:50] <fader> fluitfries: Let me know if it works :)
[14:50] <shad_> kshadow, ping
[14:51] <fluitfries> fader: will do.  :)
[14:51] <kshadow> shad_: ?
[14:51] <kshadow> shad_: One sec, I'll find out for you, gotta check on a house first.
[14:51] <yusuo> so anyone know how i would go about changing default audio manager, alsamixer doesnt do anything
[14:52] <xukun> I have a data on a micro sd card of 1gb, how can I make exact same copy on other micro sd card of 4gb?
[14:52] <Stefan100> hi
[14:54] <user_> user
[14:54] <Stefan100> new user here
[14:55] <yusuo> Stefan100 hi
[14:55] <waled-mahdy> hi
[14:56] <shad_> kshadow, , help me out, my sony vaio inbuilt camera is not working
[14:56] <kshadow> shad_: Sorry, I was busy.
[14:56] <kshadow> I can only do one thing at a time. :P
[14:57] <kshadow> Check your laptops manual and find me what wireless card you have.
[14:58] <kshadow> And lsusb to get me the camera.
[14:58] <G-Blunted> i got stuff starting up that isn't in the Startup Applications menu/list....how do i get it so they don't startup? Like i get the package manager starting up, and pidgeon starting up everytimne i boot..,.
[14:58] <G-Blunted> i'd rather they not
[14:59] <yusuo> G-Blunted goto System>Preferences>sessions and untick what you dont want to start
[14:59] <ben__> nvidia-glx-96 is already the newest version.
[14:59] <ben__> that's what I get.
[14:59] <jamfx> hi everybody, I tried to install my ubuntu on /dev/sdd2 where I also told my Grub to be written in (not in the mbr) but I always got: "Error loading Operating system"
[14:59] <tonymk> i'm using DSL net, but i dont know how to connect it on ubuntu
[14:59] <tonymk> can some1 tell me ?
[15:00] <jken146> jamfx: You should reinstall grub on the mbr
[15:00] <jamfx> is there a way just to rewrite grub witout installing the whole system again?
[15:00] <jken146> !grub | jamfx
[15:00] <kshadow> jamfx: Check out your /boot
[15:00] <Jewbacca> hi, i deleted on accident my turn off button, http://cohenishai.wippiespace.com/desktop.jpg look top left.. how to retrive it?
[15:00] <tiredbones> I'm looking for the channel for f-spot. Could someone give me a point? The search turns up nothing.
[15:00] <jken146> jamfx: do the RestoreGrub one
[15:00] <tonymk> !pppoe | tonymk
[15:00] <jamfx> ok, thx
[15:01] <shad_> kshadow, do you find anything?
[15:01] <user_> tesssst
[15:01] <G-Blunted> yusuo,  i don't see preferences or sessions in the application list
[15:01] <Jewbacca> hi, i deleted on accident my turn off button, http://cohenishai.wippiespace.com/desktop.jpg look top left.. how to retrive it?
[15:01] <kshadow> Jewbacca: What do you mean.
[15:02] <yusuo> fuckG-Blunted what o/s are you using
[15:02] <Jewbacca> kshadow: the button i press turn off or restart, i removed it by accident
[15:02] <G-Blunted> Xubuntu
[15:02] <G-Blunted> 8.10
[15:02] <Jewbacca> kshadow: its on the top left in the image :p
[15:02] <Pici> yusuo, Please watch your language in this channel, thank you.
[15:02] <yusuo> i didnt mean to swear damn msn convo
[15:02] <yusuo> didnt realise what window i was writing in sorry guys
[15:02] <G-Blunted> ...as you say 'damn' :p
[15:02] <kshadow> Jewbacca: Open a terminal and type shutdown -h now
[15:03] <yusuo> xubuntu, ahhh ok in that case cant help, i use ubuntu
[15:03] <shad_> kshadow, where i paste my output of lsusb
[15:03] <jken146> !paste
[15:03] <kshadow> shad_: You can /msg it to me.
[15:03] <sky_> hi
[15:04] <Jewbacca> kshadow: i get shutdown: Need to be root
[15:04] <sky_> how i can convert .mid to .mp3 ?
[15:04] <juanfer2k> Chousuke i've done the actualization
[15:04] <kshadow> Jewbacca: sudo shutdown -h now./
[15:04] <jken146> Jewbacca: put sudo at the start of the command
[15:04] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: okay.
[15:04] <sky_> anyone please ?
[15:04] <kshadow> Any command that needs to run as root needs sudo in front of it in Ubuntu.
[15:04] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: did you get your apps back? :)
[15:04] <lalelu> #join | -de
[15:04] <Jewbacca> kshadow: sudo shutdown -h now,/
[15:04] <juanfer2k> but menus are the same
[15:04] <Jewbacca> kshadow: with the ./?
[15:04] <juanfer2k> Chousuke no, the same
[15:04] <kshadow> Jewbacca: That will shutdown your computer.
[15:04] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: hmm
[15:05] <lalelu> what is the command to go in a german chat-room
[15:05] <Jewbacca> kshadow: i dont want to shutdown, i want the taskbar icon
[15:05] <Chousuke> juanfer2k: did you try logging out and back in again?
[15:05] <kshadow> Jewbacca: Right click>Add to panel?
[15:05] <juanfer2k> no, just finished the downl
[15:05] <Pici> lalelu: /join #ubuntu-de
[15:05] <kshadow> Or something.
[15:05] <kshadow> I don't use gnome.
[15:05] <FloodBot1> kshadow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <juanfer2k> Chousuke BRB
[15:05] <Jewbacca> kshadow: yea but i cant find that button
[15:05] <shad_> kshadow, http://paste.ubuntu.com/116104/
[15:06] <kshadow> Jewbacca: Like I said I don't have gnome, so I can't check.
[15:06] <shad_> kshadow, i have pasted the output u needed
[15:06] <kshadow> I haven't used it in a long time.
[15:06] <kshadow> shad_: Install madwifi-hal to get your wireless working.
[15:06] <Pici> Jewbacca: Right click on a panel, choose 'add to panel' and look for the logout/shutdown button
[15:06] <soul9> thanks
[15:07] <soul9> kshadow: thanks
[15:07] <Jewbacca> Pici: but i want the same button it was before
[15:07] <soul9> bye
[15:07] <shad_> kshadow, using apt-get
[15:07] <kshadow> shad_: Maybe, I'm not sure, never had to install it on ubuntu.
[15:07] <kshadow> But try sudo apt-get install madwifi-hal
[15:07] <juanfer2k> A little changes
[15:08] <sky_> how i can conver .mid to mp3 ?
[15:08] <Jewbacca> how can i open rar files?
[15:08] <Pici> Jewbacca: Then look in the rest of the applets that it provides you with.  The one you had needs to be there. It may be the user switcher applet.
[15:08] <sky_> Jewbacca: unrar
[15:08] <kshadow> Jewbacca: unrar e filename
[15:08] <shad_> kshadow, it tells Couldn't find the package
[15:08] <Sideisnder> Hello everyone
[15:08] <kshadow> shad_: One sec.
[15:08] <Pici> !rar > Jewbacca
[15:08] <Sideisnder> I have a few questions if anyone is able
[15:08] <CQ> hello, is there a way to get seen as being part of a group without logging out and in again?
[15:09] <freedumMan> does anyone know which package has the pidgin protocols in it, my entire protocol dropdown list is blank in pidigin from repositories
[15:09] <jrib> CQ: not that I know of, no
[15:09] <CQ> I'm listed in /etc/group, and have a ton of windows open ... :)
[15:09] <jrib> CQ: well there's "newgrp", but that just gives you a new shell
[15:09] <d^-^b> hi guys, im new to ubuntu hope you can give me a little hand
[15:09] <kshadow> shad_: http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[15:10] <boaty> I am trying to access the tool: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but all I get is an error: possibly overwriting customised configuration. Thoughts? I have tried google and have found nothing
[15:10] <Pici> boaty: Thats not an error.
[15:10] <CQ> jrib: ok, good enough for now, thanks.
[15:10] <CQ> I only need the group in one or two shells
[15:10] <Sideisnder> Is anyone able to help someone new to Linux?
[15:10] <boaty> pici: Why does it not let me into the tool then
[15:10] <jken146> !ask
[15:10] <CQ> Sideisnder: not if that person doesn't ask a question
[15:11] <Pici> boaty: That means that it has overwritten the old file.  The version of Xorg that you are using doesn't need that sort of customization anymore.
[15:11] <sky_> Sideisnder: say your problem
[15:11] <Pici> !x | boaty see these links
[15:11] <shad_> kshadow, and for camera
[15:11] <lamzaks> Hello
[15:11] <d^-^b> im trying to config my wireless to work but i get The above command failed for me at first because subversion couldn't find svn.madwifi.org
[15:11] <d^-^b> Madwifi will probably have their DNS problems worked out by the time you read this. But if not then see the section at the bottom of this post titled "Cant find svn.madwifi.org" for a solution before continuing.  any ideas?
[15:11] <lamzaks> can some body help with porftpd
[15:11] <Sideisnder> I have tried to insall linux on my sytem time and again but i can never seem to get it to see any of my sata HD on my AMD machine...they are on a raid controller
[15:12] <boaty> thank you. I am trying to fine-tune my resolution. I will have a look at the your suggestion ubottu. Thank you
[15:12] <kshadow> shad_: I'm not quite sure what your camera is, but I assume it's the Richoh Co. thing, one sec.
[15:12] <lamzaks> it shares only /home/user folder
[15:12] <kshadow> Yeah, it is.
[15:12] <zim> Hi all this is a ubuntu SERVER install Q. How do I get sound working?
[15:12] <kshadow> shad_: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821343
[15:13] <d^-^b> kshadow:  do you know how to fix this The above command failed for me at first because subversion couldn't find svn.madwifi.org
[15:13] <d^-^b> Madwifi will probably have their DNS problems worked out by the time you read this. But if not then see the section at the bottom of this post titled "Cant find svn.madwifi.org" for a solution before continuing. ?
[15:13] <tiredbones> distro is 8.04. The current version of f-spot is 0.5.0.3, but this distro has version 0.4.3.1. How can I upgrade to the  current version of f-spot?
[15:13] <shad_> kshadow, some one told me install cheese?
[15:13] <kshadow> shad_: Oh yeah, install easycam.
[15:13] <nix-n00b> g2ipmsg segmentation fault after build. What to do ?
[15:13] <kshadow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam
[15:14] <Spiriteh> \o, I'm trying to install 8.10 with a hd2600XT but I get a wierd display (glitch?) when it gets to X anyone know a fix? /=
[15:14] <kshadow> d^-^b: Not sure.
[15:14] <kshadow> Sorry, fiancee's hungry, gotta feed her before she starves.
[15:14] <kshadow> I can try and help some more after.
[15:14] <d^-^b> kshadow:  np ty,
[15:14] <Sideisnder> I have tried to insall linux on my sytem time and again but i can never seem to get it to see any of my sata HD on my AMD machine...they are on a raid controller
[15:14] <shad_> kshadow, so i unistall cheese and install easycam?
[15:14] <ben__> video is jumpy on nvidia Geforce4 mx440 64MB using nvidia 96.43.09 (latest). What can I do?
[15:15] <kshadow> shad_: You don't have to uninstall cheese, but easycam will set up your webcam for you.
[15:15] <kshadow> Like I said, gotta go.
[15:15] <kshadow> If you still need me /msg me.
[15:15] <nix-n00b> ben__: install drivers using envy
[15:15] <G-Blunted> ben__, : install the proprietery drivers
[15:15] <shad_> kshadow, ok thanx
[15:15] <G-Blunted> ben__, it should be trying to install the drivers for you really.....look for the icon in the panel
[15:15] <zim> anyone here use Sound on there SERVER install? what do I need to install to get it working ?
[15:16] <Sideisnder> I guess this inst the place for that question...thx anyway ill look elsewhere
[15:16] <ice_cream> zim, possibly  alsa-base
[15:16] <zim> ice_cream: ty
[15:17] <zim> will try
[15:17] <incubii> !easycam
[15:17] <wers> how do I change the fonts of thinking rock, a java app, to fit the rest of my desktop? :D
[15:18] <zim> ice_cream: done that it may also be a volume/mute problem what do I use to change that?
[15:19] <gangsterlicious> the default MTA exim4, how do i go by change the listening port? i need it to run on port 26, not 25
[15:19] <ice_cream> zim, so you dont have a gui at all?
[15:19] <cew_muanisss> hay
[15:20] <ladygangster> hey
[15:20] <temp39> Hi. I'm installing xubuntu. When the install gets to the partitioner, there are no partitions, all the buttons are gray and there is a weird white box in the window at the top.
[15:21] <Sideisnder> how Do i Install Ubuntu 8.10 on my AMD sata raid controller
[15:21] <MacGyverNL_> I can boot my 2.6.27-7 kernel just fine, but when I try to boot 2.6.27-11 I get the following errors: http://rafb.net/p/cxkNts37.html . My Grub menu.lst is http://pastebin.com/f6a177f6 . As you can see, the entries are virtually identical. How can I solve this problem?
[15:21] <ice_cream> zim, oh, there's the console tool alsamixer, i suppose
[15:22] <zim> ice_cream: yes no gui
[15:23] <ice_cream> 'm' mutes/unmutes
[15:23] <DogWater> does anyone know what package i need to install to get the /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/source , and /build ?
[15:24] <souldure> hate to be a bother but some insight may be whats needed here why does my compiz shut off randomly along with emerald it seems like certain things triget it shutting off line using gimp and using certain root programs?
[15:24] <shishio> .join #php
[15:25] <mikeshollen> Can anyone please help me to configure my Microphone?  I can't seem to get it working.
[15:25] <nix-n00b> !g2ipmsg
[15:25] <Georg> hello i'm new with ubuntu how can i install programs XD ?
[15:25] <Georg> whats the command
[15:25] <galahad> Hello, Is there a way of enabling compiz with nVidia GeForce2 MX 400 on intrepid?
[15:25] <mikeshollen> Georg: Go into the synoptic package manager
[15:25] <nix-n00b> georg: sudo apt-get install <<name-of-program>>
[15:25] <Georg> ok
[15:26] <Georg> thanks
[15:26] <souldure> isnt using aptutude better because you can uninstall things properly?
[15:26] <souldure> aptitude"
[15:26] <tiredbones> my distro is 8.04. The current version of f-spot is 0.5.0.3, but this distro has version 0.4.3.1. How can I upgrade to the  current version of f-spot?
[15:26] <mikeshollen> Souldure: I'm unfamiliar with aptitude, tell me more.
[15:26] <animusdk> tiredbones: you need to find the gspot first before you can upgrade to fspot
[15:27] <storrgie> Is there a graphics stress test in ubuntu?
[15:27] <jpds> galahad: Install: nvidia-glx-96
 - it's already the latest proprietary driver. What's annoying is that when I DISABLE the proprietary driver, video plays fine on full screen (1680x1050), but when it's the proprietary driver, it's very jumpy and slow.
[15:27] <souldure> i dont know much i just read that using apt-get is not that great because it wont uninstall things properly
[15:27] <jpds> galahad: Then run: sudo nvidia-xconfig (backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf first) and restart X.
[15:27] <souldure> sudo aptitude seems to work better for me if i make a mistake and have to uninstall
[15:28] <galahad> jpds: thanks, trying it now!!
[15:28] <storrgie> is there something I can run to put stress on the GPU?
[15:29] <ice_cream> idk if glxgears qualifies
[15:29] <nix-n00b> souldure: synaptic is good for newbies as it has a nice GUI.
[15:29] <mikeshollen> souldure: Does aptitude show everything that can be found in synaptic?
[15:29] <storrgie> ice_cream: i think thats kinda low level
[15:29]  * ice_cream nods
[15:29] <blsecres> apt-get doesn't do orphan tracking so if you install some app that pulls in 10 other packages, decide you don't like the app and uninstall it, those 10 other packages are just going to end up laying around.  aptitude can keep track of that.  apt-get can as well with other software
[15:29] <souldure> no
[15:29] <jpds> blsecres: It does.
[15:29] <souldure> its a command line interface
[15:29] <tiredbones> animusdk, thanks, but no thanks
[15:30] <souldure> just cleans things up beter if you need to uninstall something
[15:30] <adante> hi, is there an up to date guide for freenx install under ubuntu?
[15:30] <jpds> !freenx
[15:30] <ice_cream> souldure, yea, i also prefer aptitude
[15:30] <souldure> if your new id go with synaptic
[15:30] <DogWater> does anyone know how to install the kernel headers?
[15:30] <DogWater> cant get cdp to install without it
[15:31] <souldure> gui is interesting id reserch command line structure though seems to be easyer and faster
[15:31] <IntuitiveNipple> DogWater: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[15:32] <mikeshollen> Anyone in here familiar with setting up Microphones?
[15:32] <IntuitiveNipple> DogWater: If building against a different kernel version, the package will be linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[15:32] <adam> what's the best recommended torrent client for ubuntu? transmission seems a little meh
[15:32] <_ruben> !best
[15:33] <souldure> does anyone know why my compiz randomly shuts off when i use gimp of some root programs?
[15:33] <DogWater> IntuitiveNipple: its looking for this: /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/build/
[15:33] <Georg> what flash shoulda i use ?
[15:33] <jpds> Guest67748: I suggest rtorrent if you don't mind a command line one.
[15:33] <freedumMan> anyone know why pidgin protocol list is blank ? PLEASE
[15:34] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me how to split an office word document pages into two columns
[15:34] <kjell> freedumMan: Try the debug-window and see if you find anything special message there.
[15:34] <Georg> okei so i downloaded install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz but how can i install it ?
[15:34] <Georg> noob with linux :(
[15:34] <freedumMan> kjell, thanks
[15:34] <souldure> you have to compile a tar tar is source
[15:35] <Georg> :O
[15:35] <kjell> freedumMan: If you can't find any special hints here I could advice you to join pidgins channel. If I remember correctly they have a good supportchannel aswell.
[15:35] <Georg> how can i do that
[15:35] <Pici> Georg: It would be easier to install flash from the package repositories.
[15:35] <Pici> !flash | Georg see here
[15:35] <jpds> !flash | Georg
[15:35] <souldure> if your using ubuntu download the deb
[15:35] <Georg> ty
[15:35] <kjell> Pici: jpds: :-D
[15:35] <mahen2> hello all
[15:35] <kjell> Hello mahen2
[15:35] <mahen2> I just bought A New SATA 250 GB Hard Drive
[15:36] <mahen2> however it would not show up in the BIOS or POST screen
[15:36] <mahen2> i tried everythinh, like changing the power cable
[15:36] <DogWater> IntuitiveNipple: damnit now it needs the kernel source
[15:37] <Pici> mahen2: This channel is only really for Ubuntu support. ##hardware should be able tom help you though.
[15:37] <daliang> hello! I have difficult with VPN connetting under 8.10,i don'nt know how to setting!
[15:37] <Rencx> hello, how i can install OpenSong in my ubuntu?
[15:37] <Favorit> daliang: which VPN do you use?
[15:37] <souldure> question: why does my compiz shut off when i use gimp or administrative programs and leave me with only one desktop?
[15:37] <MoLoot> souldure, do you have sufficient memory?
[15:37] <cellofellow> ballen0311: hi
[15:38] <souldure> plenty
[15:38] <freedumMan> kjell, I've got the channel pidgin on freenode .... just waiting for an answer back, i get error g_log: purple_find_prpl: assertion `id != NULL' failed
[15:38] <souldure> i have sufficient everything lol
[15:38] <Favorit> not funny, he did have a valid question
[15:38] <cellofellow> ballen0311: hi
[15:38] <mikeshollen> Souldure: Has it always done that?  It could be one of the plug-ins that you turned on malfunctinoing
[15:39] <MoLoot> souldure, I just started using compbiz yesterday, but I haven't experienced any difficulties... gnome or kde?
[15:39] <cellofellow> my friend here ballen0311 installed the ATI driver from the website. How's he uninstall it?
[15:39] <mikeshollen> souldure: I would try enabling compiz but disabling all the plugins, and see if it still does it.  If not, enable them one by one to see which one is messing up
[15:39] <daliang> Favorit:http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/12715
[15:39] <syock> exit
[15:39] <souldure> it never did it when i was using untimate edition
[15:40] <souldure> but i cleanly installed ibex
[15:40] <souldure> and im working with it
[15:40] <Favorit> daliang: euh, i see. Well, what do you want to achieve? connect to your company VPN?
[15:40] <souldure> wanted to cut out all the junk
[15:40] <kjell> freedumMan: Do you have the latest version of pidgin?
[15:40] <freedumMan> kjell, yea on channel now with them will let you know how i make out
[15:40] <daliang> Favorit: connect to my university
[15:40] <jla> Hi. I'm checking out ubuntu and having trouble using Add/Remove or Synaptic to find programs to install. For example crossfire. I type that into the search for add/remove and it finds nothing.
[15:40] <kjell> freedumMan: Ok good! Good luck!
[15:41] <kjell> jla: What do you search for
[15:41] <MoLoot> souldure, are u using a 3rd party vid driver?
[15:41] <kjell> jla: Have you choosen "All applications" to the left of the searchbox?
[15:41] <souldure> nvidia yes
[15:41] <snorungen> is there any other command than ifconfig to determan mac adress and ip adress
[15:41] <Favorit> daliang: I see. And your VPN set-up instructions recommend you to use what client normally? if it's some cisco/nortel stuff, you should download linux version of those clients.
[15:41] <souldure> i tried glx xgl dbe
[15:41] <souldure> in the xorg conf
[15:41] <jla> kjell: yes
[15:41] <souldure> didnt seem to help
[15:42] <kjell> jla: What did you search for then? Try pidgin or some other famous program like wine. No results?
[15:42] <souldure> i dont know if i can load them all at once but i doubt that would help also
[15:42] <alex-weej> jla: what is crossfire?
[15:42] <Favorit> alex-weej: ATi version of nvidia's SLI
[15:43] <zxd> SLI is ridiculous i think , like 3dfx madness
[15:43] <alex-weej> Favorit, jla: why would you need to install that?
[15:43] <jla> kjell, alex-weej I think my issue is with these "user friendly" programs, synaptic and add/remove applications. Crossfire is a game. If I fire up a terminal and aptitude search crossfire, I see it.
[15:44] <daliang> Favorit: thank you very much,but i don't konw what to set in gate way,and you mean i should change a VPN clinet?
[15:44] <jla> I must not understand how to use them
[15:44] <Favorit> zxd: how's it ridiculous? :)
[15:44] <kjell> jla: Try apt-get install crossfire in the terminal them.
[15:44] <ben__> ok, this nvidia-xconfig thing seems to have helped somewhat.
[15:44] <ben__> I'll try the video thing again.
[15:44] <kjell> !crossfire
[15:44] <alex-weej> jla: crossfire-client-gtk2
[15:44] <jla> kjell: I'm sure that will work, but how to find these apps using the user friendly apps?
[15:44] <kjell> Crossfire does not seem to be supported in ubuntu
[15:44] <alex-weej> jla: the metadata for the packages needs to be correct.
[15:44] <ben__> nope, it still sucks.
[15:45] <Favorit> daliang: well, without knowing what your VPN server requires I can't really say if you're using the right VPN client or not. I suppose the best way would be to contact your university tech support to see if they can help you out.
[15:45] <kjell> jla: read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=689208
[15:45] <ben__> I guess I'll have to do without compiz.
[15:45] <kjell> jla: "
[15:45] <kjell> 2. ATI support is very very bad in linux right now and crossfire is not supported."
[15:45] <Favorit> neither was damn SLi.
[15:45] <jla> kjell: must be the wrong one, the one alex-weej mentioned is it
[15:45] <Droopsta915> Why doesnt my flash player work? I visit any website and have to hit play in order to see the advertisement or whatever that website is trying to show.
[15:45] <Favorit> anyone knows btw, if the latest drivers returned SLi support?
[15:45] <jla> kjell: it's a game
[15:46] <mikeshollen> Favorit: yes for nvidia
[15:46] <kjell> Aaah, my bad then. Sorry jla.
[15:46] <alex-weej> Droopsta915: you installed Gnash or Swfdec
[15:46] <ice_cream> hi, if gnome desktop uses metacity by default, and kde uses kwin (as a wm), and fluxbox is considered a window manager, then what is the desktop environment that controls fluxbox?  o.O
[15:46] <mikeshollen> Favorit: I have sli working on hardy
[15:46] <alex-weej> Droopsta915: you probably want the Adobe Flash Player
[15:46] <Droopsta915> alex-weej: I installed both.
[15:46] <alex-weej> ice_cream: bash
[15:46] <Favorit> mikeshollen: aha. gotta give it a try again. last time i checked it didn't recognize any of the cards. :(
[15:46] <jla> kjell, alex-weej how does the average user find crossfire, gcompris or fwcutter to install from ubuntu? How to fix or bug this metadata?
[15:46] <alex-weej> Droopsta915: uninstall gnash and swfdec
[15:47] <alex-weej> Droopsta915: adobe flash player will take over
[15:47] <Favorit> mikeshollen: although i tried on intrepid, but i doubt it would be much different
[15:47] <souldure> anyone know why my compiz shuts off randomly?
[15:47] <ice_cream> alex-weej, and more seriously?
[15:47] <Droopsta915> alex-wee:Do you know the command for the adobe flash install?
[15:48] <Favorit> souldure: how about looking in some logfiles instead of repeating the same question all the time? :)
[15:48] <souldure> you have to install adobe through wine
[15:48] <beargins> O_O
[15:48] <beargins> uberness
[15:48] <beargins> hehe
[15:48] <alex-weej> Droopsta915: sudo apt-get remove gnash swfdec && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:48] <beargins> how are u all
[15:48] <FloodBot1> beargins: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:48] <Droopsta915> souldure:sorry I don't use wine
[15:48] <beargins> ok thanks flood bot
[15:48] <alex-weej> Droopsta915: ignore him, he doesn't know what he's saying
[15:48] <Droopsta915> alex-wee:thanks
[15:48] <mikeshollen> Favorit: actually it might
[15:49] <mikeshollen> Favorit: I had a terrible time with graphic drivers with intrepid and i switched to hardy which solved all those issues
[15:49] <souldure> favorit: what log files should i look at
[15:49] <souldure> ?
[15:49] <alex-weej> souldure: type this command in a terminal: ubuntu-bug -p compiz
[15:49] <daliang> Favorit:there is a example in my university but under window.From that i can know all i need to use vpn connect to my university lib is a fill "vpn.****.cn"in the blank and i user name come with a password. and what should i do with ubuntu? thank you!
[15:50] <alex-weej> !vpn
[15:50] <alex-weej> !vpn > daliang
[15:50] <boaty> is there a GUI or simple utility to work xorg.conf? Thank you
[15:51] <ice_cream> gaming vpn seems unrelated t the question
[15:51] <karlwettin> i would like to install ubuntu on my mac mini, but i have no monitor. is it possible to install it remote via ssh or? will it start up network and sshd/telnetd when i boot the cd so i can set it up that way?
[15:51] <souldure> thanks guys
[15:51] <billybigrigger> is there anyone here with a working microsoft lifecam vx1000??? i cant seem to get mine working, easycam picks it up but when i got to execute it doesnt work
[15:51] <alex-weej> daliang: install the package "network-manager-pptp"
[15:52] <alex-weej> daliang: then you can just right click the network icon and set up a PPTP VPN
[15:53] <Georg> hello i might need help again got this error
[15:53] <Georg> Could not open the file /home/georg/Desktop/NVID…Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding.
[15:54] <daliang> alex-weej:i have done that,but can't right config the seeting
[15:54] <rainmanp7> .
[15:55] <alex-weej> daliang: please report a bug if it's not working. ubuntu-bug -p network-manager-pptp
[15:55] <mikeshollen> anyone know why i can run glest from terminal and not from the apps menu
[15:55] <daliang> alex-weej:thank you i will try anyway
[15:56] <Georg> Could not open the file Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding. <-- can anybody help me with this ?
[15:56] <alex-weej> daliang: i remember in intrepid i had to battle with various settings, disabling some compression and choosing some specific authn protocol
[15:56] <alex-weej> daliang: but if it doesn't just figure it out itself it's a bug.
[15:56] <alex-weej> daliang: so please, report a bug :)
[15:56] <Guest96183> how do I change my username? so that it reads differently in the terminal and login screen?
[15:57] <rainmanp7> ok
[15:57] <morph> hello
[15:57] <morph> SELECTED_FILE=`nice -n 15 xwinwrap -ni -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -o 0.5 -- mplayer -wid WID -quiet  "`zenity --file-selection`" -loop 0`
[15:57] <morph> what is wrong?
[15:58] <daliang> alex-weej: there are too more seetings, i only have a webset a username a password,that's not enough to fill so many blank!
[15:58] <ice_cream> morph, er.. is that really a bash question?
[15:58] <tavi> hy
[15:58] <morph> no output for debug
[15:58] <tavi> someone tell me a program similar to sopcast ?
[15:59] <morph> gsoapcast
[15:59] <tavi> i have him
[15:59] <tavi> and don't work
[15:59] <alex-weej> daliang: what blanks do you need to fill in?
[15:59] <kshadow> I think bison orbicam's are finally supported by linux!
[15:59] <morph> try here
[16:00] <morph> http://appnr.com/
[16:00] <ice_cream> morph, so mplayer problem?  try #mplayer =)
[16:00] <daliang> alex-weej: gateway
[16:00] <Guest96183> how do I change my username? so that it reads differently in the terminal and login screen?
[16:00] <alex-weej> daliang: gateway is the vpn server
[16:00] <alex-weej> vpn.youruniversity.edu
[16:00] <tavi> so any help?
[16:00] <daliang> alex-weej: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/i12715
[16:00] <souldure> any suggestions for learning bash scripting for a not so newcomer?
[16:01] <Rencx> i find a lot of this logs hs_err_pid14005.log in my Home Folder can i delete all of them?
[16:01] <Guest96183> souldure:  #bash
[16:01] <k001operator> Hi to all any have issues with Gutsy?  I'm trying update my package but the download header have time out
[16:01] <blsecres> souldure: bash scripting howto, wooledge
[16:01] <Guest96183> souldure: lots of free manuals through them
[16:01] <daliang> alex-weej:what's groupname stand for?
[16:01] <alex-weej> daliang: i don't know chinese...
[16:01] <k001operator> If I do $aptitude update
[16:01] <k001operator> in the 99% tellme  time out
[16:02] <souldure> ty
[16:02] <souldure> i am loving linux
[16:02]  * ice_cream is not going to guess
[16:02] <daliang> alex-weej:you just have to expanstion english
[16:02] <alex-weej> daliang: is that Intrepid?
[16:02] <alex-weej> daliang: or Hardy?
[16:02] <daliang> alex-weej:8.10
[16:02] <alex-weej> daliang: did you choose PPTP?
[16:02] <alex-weej> or some other type
[16:03] <alex-weej> because on my system, i don't have that many options for PPTP
[16:03] <daliang> alex-weej:i am sorry i not good at english.i don't know what's pptp
[16:03] <alex-weej> PPTP is the name of the protocol used by Microsoft VPN systems
[16:03] <alex-weej> daliang: your university almost certainly uses PPTP
[16:04] <daliang> alex-weej:http://www.vpn.jxufe.cn/vpn/VPN.htm
[16:04] <daliang> alex-weej:i think you are right
[16:04] <alex-weej> daliang: so install network-manager-pptp
[16:04] <alex-weej> daliang: and when you go to create a VPN connection, choose PPTP
[16:04] <alex-weej> "Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol"
[16:05] <daliang> alex-weej:what's the meaning of "groupname"
[16:05] <rainmanp7> .
[16:05] <alex-weej> daliang: i have no idea. it has no relevance to PPTP.
[16:05] <alex-weej> daliang: you chose the wrong VPN type.
[16:05] <alex-weej> CHOOSE PPTP!
[16:05] <FloodBot1> alex-weej: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <daliang> alex-weej:ok let me try
[16:06] <lyhana8> hi, which ftp server did you recommend ?
[16:09] <boaty> I am looking to edit my Xcong.org. I have read a number of articles but and the default ubuntu one, but I would ideally just like a GUI tool. Does this exist?
[16:09] <boaty> thank you
[16:10] <warren_> warren: could you please register your own nickname?
[16:11] <goliate> salut all
[16:12] <warren> what is FloodBot1 for?
[16:12] <cutiemale> can ubuntu improve the graphic speed into using logmeine?
[16:12] <cutiemale> can ubuntu improve the graphic speed into using logmein?
[16:12] <Abstrackt> join #linuxmao
[16:12] <cutiemale> or anyone knew to fix something into this?
[16:13] <[t]ekoperse> is bitcomet comportable with ubuntu?
[16:15] <incubii> cutiemale, i would think network speed is the issue not your graphics
[16:16] <cutiemale> but if u are using windows to use logmein and compare with ubuntu
[16:16] <cutiemale> seems like there is a big different
[16:16] <blsecres> is anyone here running emacs-snapshot? if so, is transient-mark-mode acting crazy for you?
[16:16] <cutiemale> when u are clicking individual icon for the computer u remotely control
[16:16] <cutiemale> there is a different as it keeps on refreshing for each action u did on the remote
[16:17] <incubii> ah
[16:19] <Rencx> i find a lot of this logs hs_err_pid14005.log in my Home Folder can i delete all of them?
[16:25] <VirusInject> anyone use wordpress here??
[16:25] <jrib> VirusInject: best to just ask your real question
[16:25] <matt-wp> VirusInject: wordwhat?
[16:26] <billybigrigger_> is there anyone here with a working microsoft lifecam vx1000??? i cant seem to get mine working, easycam picks it up but when i got to execute it doesnt work
[16:26] <Pici> VirusInject: Wordpress has a support channel here: #wordpress
[16:26] <fluitfries> anyone know why fake-mbr would be able to boot fine with 1 SATA drive attached, but as soon as I attach another IDE drive the mbr doesn't work anymore?
[16:26] <VirusInject> wordpress blog
[16:26] <Pici> VirusInject: /join #wordpress for support
[16:28] <matt-wp> fluitfries: probably because your IDE drive have no MBR and has booting priority over your sata drive
[16:28] <matt-wp> try plugging it into secondary slot
[16:28] <dyr> how can i remove syslinux from a usb stick?
[16:28] <fluitfries> matt-wp: it is a primary slave, are you saying it should be secondary slave?
[16:29] <error404notfound> 1. how can i redirect all emails from a certain domain to a specific email address using qmail and maildrop? 2. How can i block an apache site to be accessible only from certain ips?
[16:29] <d111> Hi, I have installed ubuntu on virtual PC 2007 and managed to configure the xorg.conf in such a way that I get a high resolution. (1600x1200) which is max for VPC2007. I however reqiure a resolution of 1280x1024. If I change to this I get a garbled screen (the lines are shifted with respect to each other)  Anyone now how to solve this? Or how to change the resolution back via shell (I have shell access)?
[16:29] <matt-wp> fluitfries: well,  if you want your SATA drive to boot;  it would be better ;)
[16:30] <fluitfries> matt-wp: i plan to eventually use all my IDE ports...  will i never be able to use my primary channel and boot to my SATA?
[16:30] <matt-wp> or boot with a bootcd,   mount your partition,  edit your fstab and write GRUB on the ide drive.
[16:30] <fluitfries> matt-wp: i could do that, just put the same grub config from my SATA onto the primary IDE drives?
[16:31] <matt-wp> yup
[16:32] <fluitfries> matt-wp: i really prefer a MBR for this drive though...  :(  i also virtualize this drive and i like to have it auto-boot when run from the VM.
[16:32] <smoovep> Question? When I add users wit smbldap-useradd, I cannot log into the domain .. i have existing users that can..
[16:32] <shad_> fluitfries, my inbuilt camera is not working, i am using sony vaio laptop
[16:33] <matt-wp> well Grub writes the mbr ?
[16:33] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> aew
[16:33] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> alguem ae me vendo
[16:34] <RandyboY> What can be done to a ubuntuinstall which refuses to save the keyboard settings?
[16:34] <shad_> matt-wp, hey my inbuilt camera is not working
[16:34] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> ae
[16:34] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> marton
[16:34] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> ta me vendo
[16:34] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> bagualas
[16:34] <raheem> GaBrieL_SiLvA: english pls
[16:34] <d111> How can I SET a resolution vie SSH? Anyone? I know that the modes can be set in xorg.conf but where is the setting actually saved that is selected in the "Screen Resolution" dialog in the GUI
[16:34] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> humm
[16:35] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> raheem Hello
[16:35] <k4> d111, try xrandr
[16:35] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> raheem I dont speak Portuguese?
[16:35] <Chousuke> d111: if your graphics card supports it, xrandr would work
[16:35] <desteni> привет ребята :)
[16:35] <Bagualas> GaBrieL_SiLvA, q ?
[16:35] <Chousuke> graphics drivers, rather
[16:35] <raheem> !portugese
[16:35] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> bagualas.. blz?
[16:36] <shad_> hey anybody can help me........my inbuilt camera is not working
[16:36] <Bagualas> GaBrieL_SiLvA, bueno, e tu?
[16:36] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> BAGUALAS BEM
[16:36] <GaBrieL_SiLvA> bagualas vc mexe em ubuntu?
[16:36] <Chousuke> english only!
[16:36] <erUSUL> !br | GaBrieL_SiLvA
[16:36] <hexmasta> lol ubottu
[16:36] <amarillo-slim> lol
[16:36] <hexbomber> anyone here have experiance with compiz? I am trying to make my gnome panel semi transparent, and I have done it before.. but since I reformatted it's not working on this box.
[16:37] <dyr> hexbomber, right click on panel -> proterties -> background -> styke
[16:37] <dyr> style*
[16:38] <raheem> hexbomber: gnome-panel's transparency can be set by right mouse clicking on the bar, then there u can adjust it
[16:38] <Luuuux> guys someone help, tell me a libpq4 packgage for apt plsssssssss
[16:38] <raheem> dyr: that was faster :)
[16:38] <hexbomber> I'm talking about through compiz, by adding an opacity setting. Adjusting it through the panel settings looks like crap.
[16:39] <raheem> !compiz
[16:39] <Luuuks> hexbomber activate transparency in compiz, then point your mouse over the gnome-panel, press the alt key and scroll with your mouse
[16:39] <hanasaki> do the ubuntu kernels support booting with "/" on an lvm?
[16:39] <hexbomber> that's what I had done before.. and it used to work. doesn't anymore.
[16:40] <Luuuux> will someone help me?
[16:41] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me set up my microphone?
[16:42] <tori> hello, is there any way to forward 9000 port of my laptop to 80 port? laptop is not a router, but i have to use 80 port
[16:44] <edgimar> Does anyone know if you can 'subscribe' to a local ics (ical) file with Evolution?  (so it behaves as if you created a new calendar linked to this file.
[16:47] <raburnes> is it true that the suid bit on directories is ignored? I've tried to do chmod 6777 foodir but when non-owning users create files inside it only inherits the group. am I doing something wrong?
[16:47] <Shakedown> How can I tell if I have POSIX shared memory enabled on my system?
[16:48] <Jaxxon> how can I upgrade one package, for example firefox
[16:48] <shad_> Shakedown, hey when i update ......... the following error occur (signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4874D3686E80C6B7)
[16:49] <fosco__> Jaxxon, sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:49] <Shakedown> ...?
[16:49] <Jaxxon> fosco_I only want to upgrade it
[16:49] <fosco__> yes
[16:51] <xtmnx> could anyone tell me if it's possible to have dual display with different resolutions?
[16:51] <shad_> Shakedown, When i use apt-get update the error occur regarding public key
[16:51] <Shakedown> shad_: You're talking to the wrong guy
[16:52] <shad_> Shakedown, to whom i talk , i am new in this chat room
[16:52] <Shakedown> shad_: Talk to everyone in general, and someone specific will answer your question
[16:52] <IntuitiveNipple> xtmnx: Different resolutions on each display? yes, that's pretty much standard
[16:53] <IntuitiveNipple> xtmnx: e.g. right now I have CRT 1280x1024 left and DFP 1280x800 right
[16:53] <ravious> Would anyone happen to have a working xorg.conf file thats setup for duel screens on sep video cards that i could take a look at? (duel cards, not twinview)
[16:53] <Shakedown> So if I try and upgrade to the newest ATI driver and it doesn't work, how can I use the driver I'm currently using (which does work...sorta)?
[16:53] <xtmnx> IntuitiveNipple: how does it work when you move from one display to another?
[16:53] <xtmnx> like moving cursor
[16:54] <d111> Chousuke: thanks for the reply. xrandr .... hmmm. does that work wenn using putty to get the ssh prompt? How would I use it?
[16:54] <Chousuke> d111: xrandr takes a -display parameter
[16:54] <Chousuke> d111: run xrandr -q -display :0
[16:55] <IntuitiveNipple> xtmnx: It depends how you configure things. I run them as separate displays so the only thing that 'moves' is the mouse cursor. With xinerama windows drag across as normal
[16:55] <Chousuke> d111: you'll see a list of possible outputs and modes
[16:55] <Chousuke> d111: that is, if xrandr is supported
[16:55] <xtmnx> IntuitiveNipple: I see. thanks.
[16:55] <ravious> is it possible to have glx with xinerama now?
[16:55] <d111> Chousuke: cool, it lists the modes.. now how do I select one?
[16:55] <Shakedown> How can I check which version of X.org I have?
[16:56] <coz_> hey guys  for some reason when i right click gnome panel for properties I get a   "cannot stat  /home/myname/Desktop/House';  no such file for directory"
[16:56] <coz_> any solution
[16:56] <dny> i still have problems with right management / umask. how can i set umask to a certain value s.t. it is inherited to new created subfolders?
[16:56] <Chousuke> d111: first look at the output name you want, and do xrandr -display :0 -output OUTPUTNAME -mode <sth>x<sth>
[16:56] <napster> My computer is going too much slow from several days. I've no idea how to fix it.
[16:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Shakedown:  Xorg -version
[16:57] <Chousuke> d111: or something like that
[16:57] <d111> Chousuke: k I'll give it a shot
[16:57] <napster> even I've just opened fire fox and other applications are opening by taking much time
[16:58] <Shakedown> Wow...Xorg - version says I have "X.Org X Server 1.4.0.90" - I need X.Org 6.7 at least for the new ATI driver
[16:58] <_Tavo_> hello, I have a geforce 6600 and ubuntu intrepid and I have tested every nvidia driver but I still get almost 20% of xorg CPU usage when playing any video
[16:58] <Shakedown> Do I really have that old of a version? I just bought this computer several months ago...
[16:58] <napster> CPU on 100%
[16:58] <Chousuke> d111: no wait, it was "--output OUTPUTNAME --mode ..."
[16:58] <napster> please help me in this matter
[16:59] <k4> _Tavo_, which player ?
[16:59] <slap_stick> hey, i was wondering if i have a cert on a local box i'm not sure what cipher was used etc, how can i read in the cert to get the details about it i.e. common name etc ?
[16:59] <Chousuke> d111: outputname depends on your machine, might be VGA or LCD or whatnot; you'll see it in the -q listing
[17:00] <napster> Help please
[17:00] <_Tavo_> k4, with any player I've tried, vlc, mplayer, totem. using xv I get the best results
[17:00] <mpalatnik> no
[17:00] <Stefan100> cool, it works
[17:00] <`Alt`> hi
[17:01] <k4> _Tavo_,  depends on so much things , like what codec and so on
[17:01] <ttolstead> Has anyone had success using a pvr-150 to view tv using VLC on ubuntu 8.10?
[17:01] <`Alt`> can u see me?
[17:01] <hexmasta> no
[17:01] <`Alt`> gOOd)
[17:01] <napster> How to check whats going down the computer speed?
[17:02] <k4> napster,  add the cpu monitor thingie to your taskbar
[17:02] <anonymous1> I hav entered with Anonymous username... How do I create a user account on #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net?
[17:02] <k4> napster,  and click on it
[17:02] <napster> yes it is, but it shows that cpu is 100% in use
[17:02] <k4> napster,  klick on it
[17:02] <_Tavo_> k4, It doesn't depend on codecs, it does it with any codec. And the problem is when I try to play h264 material, that 20% means I get 100% of total CPU usage and I keep dropping frames
[17:03] <_Tavo_> also, it does it when using compiz or metacity
[17:03] <napster> I've done now?
[17:03] <k4> _Tavo_, which graphics drivers is active ? the restricted driver ? please run "nvidia-settings" program
[17:05] <wootstar> hi there
[17:05] <`Alt`> hi
[17:05] <wootstar> does anyone have experience with xrdp under ubuntu ?
[17:05] <arvind_khadri> !anyone | wootstar
[17:05] <_Tavo_> k4, yes, I've used all the drivers I could use and the result is the same. I also installed the one from the nvidia.com site. Perhaps it's something in the xorg.conf file, because it's with its default settings
[17:05] <wootstar> -.-
[17:06] <wootstar> that was the whole question including 'anyone'
[17:06] <wootstar> :)
[17:06] <hatter243> wootstar, well then, your answer is yes.
[17:06] <k4> _Tavo_, does running nvidia-settings do something ?
[17:06] <ttolstead> Would it be fair to say that the ivtv stuff in 8.10 is broken?  It worked in ubuntu 8.04, but I haven't found any information on getting it going in 8.10.
[17:06] <igoryonya> Wireless
[17:06] <wootstar> can you help me with it? getting it up and running ?
[17:06] <igoryonya> Hello, does anybody know how to fix the WiFi
[17:06] <igoryonya> After I installed version 8.10, it automatically detected my Cisco 350 series card and detected all the WiFi networks in the proximity. I connected to one of them and it was working for a few days. I don't know what has happened, but it stopped connecting and the Wireless option to search for networks is grayed out.
[17:06] <FloodBot1> igoryonya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <igoryonya> I see "lfupdown (eth2)" in the network configuration window. If I remember correctly, it used to be just eth2 and I also have 2 regular Ethernet cards that are eth0 and eth1, which are not showing up now.
[17:07] <k4> _Tavo_, like saying the driver version @ start
[17:07] <k4> _Tavo_,  i got Nvidia Driver Version : 180.27
[17:07] <hatter243> wootstar, I'm sorry, is this your real question? As in, "Would someone please help me get xrdp set up and running?"
[17:07] <d111> Chousuke: Great, worked with: xrandr -s 1600x1200  -display :0.
[17:07] <_Tavo_> k4, yes, now I've got NVIDIA Driver Version: 180.22
[17:08] <d111> Hi, I have installed ubuntu on virtual PC 2007 and managed to configure the xorg.conf in such a way that I get a high resolution. (1600x1200) which is max for VPC2007. I however reqiure a resolution of 1280x1024. If I change to this I get a garbled screen (the lines are shifted with respect to each other)  Anyone now how to solve this?
[17:08] <wootstar> well, not that exact enought ... okay i installed it, Xvnc with it, too ... but if i run it, it doesn#t work
[17:08] <hatter243> wootstar, please use paste bin to past the console output when you try to run it
[17:08] <wootstar> ok wait
[17:09] <_Tavo_> k4, when you play a video, what's your Xorg CPU usage?
[17:09] <napster> My CPU is using 100% power, and computer is slow as its P1, how to solve this problem?
[17:09] <rip_> napster: hammer
[17:09] <k4> _Tavo_, thaTS difficult , lets see
[17:10] <^hashbang^> !nvidia | ^hashbang^
[17:10] <napster> what rip?
[17:10] <napster> Help me please
[17:10] <Jaxxon> I ran sudo apt-get install firefox & it upgraded to 3.0.5, but when I open it it's same 3.0.4
[17:11] <doggyslobber> stupid question.. if chgrp -R usergroup /usr/local/sbin/GCALDaemon is the command, what do I replace the "usergroup" with?
[17:11] <napster> Is there anyone who can help me??????????????????????????????????//
[17:12] <wootstar> hatter243 it just starts without an error
[17:12] <Jaxxon> I ran sudo apt-get install firefox & it upgraded to 3.0.5, but when I open it it's same 3.0.4
[17:12] <hexmasta> napster: what's the problem?
[17:12] <^hashbang^> what's up napster:
[17:12] <k4> _Tavo_, mplayer has 5% cpu usage here (top command) , cpu is quad core intel @ 2.4ghz , gforce 8500gt , one core of the cpu has 4800 bogomips from (cat /proc/cpuinfo)
[17:12] <rakudave> !anyone | napster
[17:12] <napster> My computer is using 100% power and I'm unable to use other softwares
[17:13] <napster> how to know what is going on with my computer"?
[17:13] <^hashbang^> napster: do you have shell/console access? like a terminal open? if so run top
[17:14] <fer> hi!
[17:14] <k4> napster do you master a console ?
[17:14] <napster> No
[17:14] <rakudave> napster: something is cloging up your system. most likely a graphic-card related issue
[17:14] <_Tavo_> k4, well I have an AthlonXP so i can't compare to that... Perhaps you have the same problem but passes unnoticed with the hardware you've got
[17:14] <k4> napster, what about the nice cpu monitor thingie i told you , you can see everything there
[17:15] <rakudave> napster: try rebooting and reconstruct your last actions that lead to this hangup, that way we can isolate the problem
[17:15] <fer> Alguien Habla castellano??
[17:15] <k4> napster, dont reboot
[17:15] <napster> every thing is fine there, but the system is slow down, as just I am using 486
[17:15] <rip_> k4: and how do you force quit a process?
[17:15] <k4> napster, rebooting is for windows users
[17:15] <doggyslobber> what is my "usergroup" in Ubuntu
[17:15] <rakudave> k4: very funny...
[17:15] <k4> rip_, right click on the process "kill"
[17:15] <rip_> !xubuntu | napster
[17:15] <erUSUL> doggyslobber: run «id»
[17:16] <erUSUL> doggyslobber: usually is a group with the same name as your user
[17:16] <rakudave> !es | fer
[17:16] <igoryonya> Wireless - Hello, does anybody know how to fix the WiFi. After I installed version 8.10, it automatically detected my Cisco 350 series card and detected all the WiFi networks in the proximity. I connected to one of them and it was working for a few days. I don't know what has happened, but it stopped connecting and the Wireless option to search for networks is grayed out. I see "lfupdown...
[17:16] <igoryonya> ...(eth2)" in the network configuration window. If I remember correctly, it used to be just eth2 and I also have 2 regular Ethernet cards that are eth0 and eth1, which are not showing up now.
[17:16] <rip_> k4: but in terminal its just text, right clicking just brings up the terminal menu
[17:16] <wootstar> hatter243 ok, i posted the errors to pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d5efc1804
[17:16] <napster> ok
[17:17] <doggyslobber> thanks..
[17:17] <doggyslobber> I had it right, but had to sudo to run the comman
[17:17] <ice_cream> igoryonya, do you see all three in the output of "sudo ifconfig" ?
[17:18] <igoryonya> in "sudo ifconfig" I do
[17:19] <ice_cream> hmm
[17:19] <sky_> hi
[17:19] <sky_> !timidity
[17:19] <sky_> i want know how to convert midi to any format
[17:19] <sky_> by timidity
[17:20] <sky_> anyone ?
[17:20] <kshadow> sky_: One sec.
[17:20] <ice_cream> igoryonya, perhaps restart networking -->   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:20] <Mood> why does abiword highlight my text in **black**?
[17:21] <kshadow> Mood: Settings?
[17:21] <Mood> kshadow: my highlight color is set to white. i tried yellow. still black
[17:21] <Mood> kshadow: actually, in abiword, the "highlight" color settings is not highlight at all it seems, but normal text background. it seems buggy
[17:22] <kshadow> sky_: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/TiMidity/
[17:22] <sky_> kshadow: then highlight me thanks
[17:22] <sky_> kshadow: ah thanks :D
[17:22] <kshadow> No problem, note, I've never used it. :P
[17:22] <igoryonya> OK, ice_cream, I will try, thanx. Then I tell, if it didn't help. P.S. though, I did reboot computer after that a few times and also booted to Windows and it works in there.
[17:22] <kshadow> Mood: I'm not sure then, sorry.
[17:22] <kshadow> Could be something with your WM's colors?
[17:22] <Mood> what do you use as your text editor (beside vi, pico, xemacs) :-P
[17:22] <ice_cream> igoryonya,  you usually dont have to reboot in linux =)
[17:22] <sky_> i need correct syntax :D
[17:23] <igoryonya> after that problem, I mean.
[17:23] <ice_cream> igoryonya, usu. it's a matter of restarting some service =D
[17:23] <kshadow> sky_: What do you mean?
[17:23] <sky_> how to use it :D
[17:23] <kshadow> ice_cream: That seems to be incorrect with Ubuntu.
[17:23] <ice_cream> kshadow, why do you say that
[17:23] <igoryonya> Ye, I understand, but since I am a newbie and don't know yet how to fix a lot of problems without rebooting, I reboot.
[17:23] <kshadow> Every other distro I've used never requires reboot, but ubuntu seems to require it.
[17:24] <kshadow> igoryonya: If you plan on continuing to use linux, I suggest you start learning how to fix things without rebooting first :)
[17:24] <ice_cream> kshadow, unless it's something really lowlvl hardware-specific, you really shouldnt need to reboot
[17:24] <kshadow> ice_cream: Generally, unless it involves major changes to the kernel, you shouldn't need to rebot.
[17:24] <kshadow> reboot*
[17:24] <ice_cream> ah, right, that too
[17:24] <Guest44962> What advantages does Ubuntu have over other versions of Linux?
[17:25] <kshadow> Guest44962: User friendlyness.
[17:25] <kshadow> Consistant updates.
[17:25] <Guest44962> sorry
[17:25] <carpii> its probably the closest thing to a user friendly distro
[17:25] <kshadow> Guest44962: It's a great starter linux.
[17:25] <ice_cream> Guest44962, generally user-friendly, popular, highly supported, nice package system
[17:25] <sky_> based by debian :p
[17:25] <igoryonya> Yes, I tried everything I could think of with my little knowledge about linux, and I didn't have enough of knowledge to be able to cope with it. And, since I don't have WiFi working there, I had to go to Windows to go on the internet and ask for help
[17:25] <^hashbang^> Guess44962: best distro by far for people new to linux
[17:25] <ice_cream> igoryonya, ah
[17:26] <kshadow> igoryonya: Well, I can probably help you get your wireless working.
[17:26] <kshadow> ^hashbang^: Not nesecarily.
[17:26] <sky_> ^hashbang^: not best but good :p
[17:26] <dyr> Hey, im trying to make a booteble usb stick that i can install ubuntu, i use ubuntu's USB startup disk program. i can boot it from kvm but when i try to boot it from my laptop the only thing i get is the syslinux greeting line and a "boot:" that
[17:26] <napster> Oh God! Finally I've done it. now its fine
[17:26] <kshadow> In my opinion, I'd suggest using a distro where you learn more.
[17:26] <Guest44962> ok is there any other advantages you can think of
[17:26] <kshadow> Though, ubuntu is a great way to get people hooked on linux ;)
[17:26] <ice_cream> igoryonya, it just seemed a bit strange that you had all 3 cards show up in ifconfig (with ip addresses i presume) and yet no internet
[17:26] <napster> The fan of processor was stopped
[17:26] <napster> Now its working fine
[17:26] <mikeshollen> Can anyone please help me set up my microphone?
[17:27] <carpii> yeah but most ppl new to linux are gonna give up, if they have to start compiling from source and messing about deep in configs
[17:27] <^hashbang^> That's your option... mine stays... ubuntu is based on Debian... other other distro that's even easier to use is linux mint.. which is also based off debian
[17:27] <looter> im using ibex and have a custom bootspalsh and login splash and inbetween the bootsplash and hte login splash and hten again after the login starts to load gnome I have this ubuntu brown wallpaper showing.  Really annoying to me and I'm trying to get rid of it or at least changte the color of it....sound familiar to anyone?
[17:27] <sky_> i think first you must learn on medium distros like debian, gentoo..then you are lazy and switch to user friendly distros :D
[17:27] <kshadow> sky_: That's why I used gentoo for the past year.
[17:27] <kshadow> FreeBSD/Slackware before then.
[17:27] <mikeshollen> i can hel you with that looter
[17:27] <mikeshollen> help
[17:27] <sky_> FreeBSD is not linux
[17:27] <Mood> how do i access my window manager's color palette? (i'm using xfce)
[17:27] <Myrtti> hello people, friendly reminder that this channel is for support questions. If you want to discuss Ubuntu outside support issues, please use #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you!
[17:28] <kshadow> sky_: No, I was just saying I used it before using the linux distros.
[17:28] <carpii> im slackware -> fedora -> ubuntu (but still redhat for servers :-)
[17:28] <sky_> i dont recommend use it for desktop
[17:28] <ice_cream> igoryonya, useful to look into commands  "ifdown" and "ifup" also -->  e.g.  sudo ifdown eth1  or  sudo ifup eth1  .  What i suggested earlier about restarting networking should basically do that to all 3 of your cards, checking again with dhcp and reassign ip addresses
[17:28] <sky_> kshadow: ah ok
[17:28] <kshadow> sky_: FreeBSD?
[17:28] <kshadow> It's a great desktop OS.
[17:28] <sky_> kshadow: yes
[17:28] <^hashbang^> I'm not a debain guru at all, I'm from the RPM / redhat world... and by far.. debain/ubuntu distro's are much fast, and alot easier to pick up than most other unix/linux type distros
[17:28] <sky_> your opinion :p
[17:28] <kshadow> sky_: Well, that's how people choose their OS' isn't it? :)
[17:29] <sky_> btw we are OFF topic...this is help channel...join #ubuntu.offtopic
[17:29] <^hashbang^> sky_: FreeBSD is not linux... so that's kinda off topic
[17:29] <ice_cream> ^hashbang^, well 'fast' in some areas
[17:29] <kshadow> :\
[17:29] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[17:29] <^hashbang^> ice_cream: yea.. true
[17:29] <kshadow> I said slackware and gentoo first. :\
[17:29] <^hashbang^> kshadow: those are linux distros =)
[17:30] <kshadow> ^hashbang^: Yes, I know..
[17:30] <^hashbang^> kshadow: I know u know =)
[17:30] <kshadow> But BSD is still posix :/
[17:30] <Myrtti> would you *PLEASE* take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic and leave this channel for SUPPORT ISSUES
[17:30] <Myrtti> thank you
[17:30] <^hashbang^> kshadow: doesn't matter, it's not linux... do you know what makes linux linux?
[17:30] <ice_cream> ##linux is also a good place to discuss linux distros, naturally, as the chan name suggests
[17:30] <blairtg> I am having some problems setting up Internet connection sharing in ubuntu 8.04. I was wondering if someone could help me
[17:30] <^hashbang^> lol
[17:30] <^hashbang^> ok I'll stop
[17:31] <kshadow> ^hashbang^: Yes, but no one seems to want us to have this convo anymore :P
[17:31] <Myrtti> you can have it elsewhere
[17:31] <^hashbang^> kshadow: lol it's cool... =)
[17:31] <kavity> Myrtti: Yeah, yeah.
[17:31] <^hashbang^> Myrtti: we heard you man.. chill
[17:31] <igoryonya> That
[17:31] <^hashbang^> Myrtti: do I need a hall pass to?
[17:31] <kavity> Ahahaha.
[17:32] <Myrtti> ^hashbang^: just let it pass
[17:32] <nach> lag test
[17:32] <blairtg> ﻿I am having some problems setting up Internet connection sharing in ubuntu 8.04. I was wondering if someone could help me
[17:32] <^hashbang^> Myrtti: dido
[17:32] <ice_cream> dido?
[17:32] <kavity> ditto I think he means.
[17:32] <ice_cream> the singer?
[17:32] <Myrtti> blairtg: could you please be a bit more specific with your problem? what have you tried, what program are you using etc?
[17:32] <^hashbang^> lol yea.. kavity: that's what I ment
[17:33] <kavity> ^hashbang^: W're getting off topic again!
[17:33] <kavity> :P
[17:33] <^hashbang^> doh!
[17:33] <syockit> blairtg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing a good place to start
[17:34] <katie_j> is this a good place to ask about sound problems?
[17:34] <kavity> katie_j: Anything ubuntu related.
[17:34] <kavity> Just no offtopic discussion or you'll be scorned!
[17:34] <kavity> :
[17:34] <blairtg> I have a machine with 2 Ethernet ports running Norton ghost. one port connects out to the internet and the other connects to the ghost network. I want to share that internet connection with the other port and therefore out to the ghost network
[17:34] <katie_j> don't know if it is ubuntu related
[17:34] <^hashbang^> ok I have a question: I just installed Alpha 4 amd64 and I can't for the life of me get the 173, 177, or the 180 drivers to work. I can logon to GDM but then my screen goes to a black background, and a mouse arrow and nothing else happens. if I go to a console I can see that the gnome bar has started, along with other gnomeish bits..
[17:35] <sporkboy> okay... I had my xorg set to switch between qwerty & dvorak (for other users) using "#	Option		"XkbOptions"	"grp:alt_shift_toggle"" in my xorg.conf. Upgraded to 8.10. now that doesn't work... apparently, that stuff has been moved to hal fdi's. anybody know how to do the same thing now?
[17:35] <kavity> katie_j: Are you using ubuntu?
[17:35] <katie_j> yes
[17:35] <kavity> katie_j: Ask away.
[17:35] <^hashbang^> nvidia drivers btw:
[17:35] <kavity> I'll see if I can help.
[17:35] <Myrtti> ^hashbang^: #ubuntu+1
[17:35] <katie_j> if I plug in a keyboard (synthesizer not qwerty) which has a usb audio device, it plays the startup sound
[17:35] <ator_> hey homies someone can give me nice theme package that easy to use?
[17:35] <slasher> he guys, how much time take an update to a new ubuntu version from a previous one?
[17:35] <gordonjcp> slasher: how long is a piece of string?
[17:35] <Myrtti> slasher: that depends on your internet connection speed?
[17:35] <igoryonya> kshadow. That would be nice if you could help me solve that problem. I will try those suggestions that were given. I have to reboot for that. If that doesn't help, I will have to ask for more help. Ye, it probably is strange that it displays only lfupdown (eth2) in graphical utility but everything in the ifconfig
[17:35] <sky_> slasher: 6 months
[17:36] <ator_> hey homies someone can give me nice theme package that easy to use?
[17:36] <ator_> hey homies someone can give me nice theme package that easy to use?
[17:36] <syockit> slasher: depending on internet connection speed, computer power
[17:36] <gordonjcp> slasher: you have to download approximately a CD's worth of packages
[17:36] <gordonjcp> !repeat | ator_
[17:36] <slasher> hehe i m actually dling 1300 updates
[17:36] <sporkboy> slasher: took me 2 days.. but only b/c I'm usually only on for 2 hours a day.
[17:36] <slasher> it said 15 mins but
[17:36] <kavity> igoryonya: I am kshadow(normall this is my nick).
[17:36] <syockit> slasher: can be at least 1 hour on fast computer with fast internet
[17:36] <sky_> slasher: sorry xD
[17:36] <slasher> y but when it  install the package?
[17:36] <kavity> slasher: It took me several hours.
[17:36] <slasher> s
[17:36] <igoryonya> After years of working and mastering windows, I can manage it without rebooting for months, but I am not that knowlegeable in linux yet.
[17:36] <kavity> igoryonya: Do you have access to your system right now?
[17:36] <_moro_bana_> I want to share my internet connection through my wireless card, want to have my iphone connected for updates, anyone to walk me through it?
[17:37] <slasher> not the dl, the install process
[17:37] <vuln> Hello there. I'm doing sudo apt-get remove vim, but vim is not uninstalled :/
[17:37] <vuln> Why?
[17:37] <trancefat> Hi All... Is there some way I can use the internet from my mobile phone on ubuntu? I am using a Nokia e71 and there is no software for ubuntu provided by Nokia!
[17:37] <gordonjcp> slasher: oh, so once it's all downloaded and it starts unpacking packages?
[17:37] <_moro_bana_> vuln: then purger it
[17:37] <kavity> vuln: Did you install it via source?
[17:37] <blairtg> could someone at least point me to an irc that might be able to help me?
[17:37] <slasher> y
[17:37] <gordonjcp> slasher: on mine, about half an hour usually
[17:37] <slasher> exactly
[17:37] <vuln> kavity: no
[17:37] <Mood> where can i change the theme for ubuntu?
[17:37] <wuq7362> vuln: the default vim package is vim-tiny
[17:37] <vuln> wuq7362: thanks
[17:37] <_moro_bana_> vuln: apt-get remove --purge
[17:37] <slasher> ok ty
[17:37] <slasher> :D
[17:37] <igoryonya> No, I have to reboot back and forth
[17:37] <wuq7362> vuln: so try removing vim-tiny
[17:37] <vuln> :)
[17:38] <kavity> igoryonya: Hrmm, well that could be abit harder to help with.
[17:38] <vuln> Thank you very much
[17:38] <Mood> i don't have a .gtk-2.0 dir. so how does xfce know where to look to set my default theme?
[17:38] <Myrtti> trancefat: if you're using Intrepid or Hardy, it should work nicely with NetworkManager
[17:38] <slasher> i was just a bit feared by seeing 1300 packages
[17:38] <kavity> igoryonya: Mind if we talk via /msg instgead? Makes things easier to read.
[17:38] <slasher> :/
[17:38] <vuln> it worked, thank you very much
[17:38] <igoryonya> Ubuntu 8.10 DVDs and DVD Repos
[17:38]  * _VIM_ apt-get removes vuln.... two can play that game !! ;)
[17:38] <kavity> Hehe.
[17:38] <katie_j> so any thoughts on my sound problem, anyone?
[17:38] <wuq7362> _VIM_: hehehe
[17:39] <kavity> katie_j: I never saw all your message sorry. I only read the part that said you plugged it in and got the startup sound?
[17:39] <wuq7362> _VIM_: i always remove nano and install the full vim package
[17:39] <slasher> so thanks all, hehe need to close my progs running while it installs all this stuff
[17:39] <picca> what is a good gnome app in ubuntu for ripping DVDs?
[17:39] <Myrtti> trancefat: connect your phone to the computer with an USB cable, check that you have "PC Suite" chosen and you should get a notification bubble about a phone connection being available
[17:39] <trancefat> Myrtti: Ok.. thanks
[17:39] <igoryonya> help /msg
[17:39] <slasher> hope i will be back soon :D
[17:39] <slasher> bb
[17:39] <katie_j> kavity: yes, that's about it
[17:39] <_VIM_> wuq7362: i dont go that far, but I do make sure i have all the VIM stuff that isnt on Ubuntu by default :D
[17:39] <kavity> katie_j: So what's the problem then? O-o
[17:39] <Jaxxon> I ran sudo apt-get install firefox & it upgraded to 3.0.5, but when I open it it's same 3.0.4
[17:40] <katie_j> kavity: uhm, should it do that?
[17:40] <mikeshollen> Can Java be installed on 8.04 through Synaptic?
[17:40] <wuq7362> _VIM_: i meant apt-get install vim (which replaces vim-tiny)
[17:40] <kavity> katie_j: Well, I don't know? Maybe I can't help you sorry. :P
[17:40] <herath> katie_j: i'd start by going to the system-->preferences-->sound menu and check if the name of your usb keyboard is shown as the selected playback device... if that's the case or change it to point to your sound card
[17:40] <katie_j> kavity: it's the sound you get when you log into ubuntu
[17:40] <kavity> OOh.
[17:40] <slasher> the last ubuntu version is 8.10 right?
[17:40] <kavity> Type lsusb, and see if it detects it.
[17:41] <katie_j> herath: it's not set as the selected playback device and I turned all the sounds off
[17:41] <calogeroge> ciao
[17:41] <calogeroge> !list
[17:41] <mikeshollen> slasher: Yes
[17:41] <_VIM_> wuq7362: ah, well removing nano prolly not a bad idea too (me runs to the cli to remove it) O.o
[17:41] <cpach> hi all! how do i change the locale on a per-user basis?
[17:41] <CarlFK> Where is the 'check my hardware' option? (plays a tone, pings the network, makes you type some keys...)
[17:41] <slasher> shit so i ll need a new update after this one (7.10 -> 8.04)
[17:41] <katie_j> herath: it doesn't do it through the keyboard when I log in, only when I turn the keyboard on
[17:41] <herath> kate_j: is it set to "automatic" ? make sure you sound card is selected anyway
[17:41] <_VIM_> !language > slasher
[17:42] <katie_j> if its turned on when i log it in it doesn't happen
[17:42] <fader> CarlFK: should be under System - Administration
[17:42] <CarlFK> fader: there it is/  thanks
[17:42] <jero> slasher - never upgrade if your system runs fine. just a waste of time
[17:42] <gordonjcp> katie_j: what kind of keyboard?
[17:42] <Myrtti> jero: ehhh...
[17:42] <slasher> too late
[17:42] <slasher> :/
[17:43] <katie_j> gordonjcp: novation xiosynth
[17:43] <jero> everyone is so upgrade happy those days
[17:43] <slasher> why a waste of time?
[17:43] <gordonjcp> katie_j: ah, I've got one of those, and had exactly that problem
[17:43] <gordonjcp> katie_j: didn't get an answer, though
[17:43] <gordonjcp> katie_j: you might have more success
[17:43] <Myrtti> jero: even if the lifespan of the release is running out? you have a weird way of thinking about upgrade
[17:44] <slasher> i want to have the last stuff and security upgrades
[17:44] <churl> so was there ever a GUI made for configuring mouse button mapping?
[17:44] <slasher> even if ubuntu is not a target of hackers
[17:44] <jero> Myrtti, even then, if there is no new features you need of the newer version, then what is the point?
[17:44] <ekoma> Hello everyone! Im new here and this is my first time running Linux :)
[17:44] <Myrtti> jero: security updates
[17:44] <_VIM_> !yay | ekoma
[17:45] <Myrtti> jero: if a release has reached EOL, then you wont be getting security updates.
[17:45] <ekoma> Thank you! :D
[17:46] <katie_j> gordonjcp: what did you do about it?
[17:46] <ekoma> So im reading the documentation pages to learn about Ubuntu and linux in general. Do you have any tips for where to move on next?
[17:46] <gordonjcp> ekoma: play with it
[17:47] <churl> ekoma: dont listen when people tell you to rtfm
[17:47] <_VIM_> yep, you'll only retain about 20% just reading anything, you have to get your hands dirty and just experiment with Linux...
[17:47] <gordonjcp> katie_j: didn't solve it, really, I deafened myself and my neighbours a few times before I ended up rm -rf'ing the directory with all the sounds
[17:47] <rainofkayos> ekoma: i think actually running it and using it is the best way to learn
[17:47] <gordonjcp> katie_j: I never use them anyway
[17:47] <jero> with my ati card i had trouble getting my hardware acceleration to run. now with my nvidia acceleration works great, but i have trouble getting mesa software acceleration to run for testing purposes
[17:48] <ekoma> Okay I'll do that. Thanks
[17:49]  * obhk__ 
[17:49] <Droopsta915> Is gtypist the only typing program on Linux?
[17:50] <quadaptor> i try to compile openssl to a non standard path, but have problems with the shared libs. openldap links to system zlib / libcrypto. please take a look to http://dpaste.com/118610/ for configure. any idea?
[17:50] <ekoma> Yeah well i just thought i should introduce myself :P
[17:50] <ekoma> I'll be back to chat someday ;)
[17:50] <syockit> Droopsta915: if I'm not mistaken there's another one written in qt
[17:50] <Myrtti> ekoma: welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[17:50] <ekoma> Bye
[17:50] <rainofkayos> ;>
[17:51] <marco_> nabend
[17:51] <churl> someone point me in the direction on mapping my touchpad (wanting to change M3 and maybe do other fancy things)
[17:52] <marco_> is there someone how can help me whit C programming
[17:52] <Droopsta915> syockit:is that the name qt?
[17:52] <Pici> marco_: The people in ##c can probably help the best.
[17:52] <jero> churl good luck with that. linux is full of bugs when it comes to configuring input devices to more than the standard
[17:53] <marco_> its my first time in irc...how do i get there?
[17:53] <rainofkayos> join #c
[17:53] <StarKad> I burned a ubuntu 8.10 live CD, but when I try to run it, it boots, loads everything perfectly for 10 seconds, and then my mouse stops moving and the insert/caps/num lock lights in my keyboard start blinking
[17:53] <Pici> marco_: type: /join ##c
[17:53] <churl> (/join #c++
[17:53] <Pici> churl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto may help you
[17:54] <marco_> thanks
[17:54] <churl> thanks guys
[17:54] <ekoma> Can anyone tell me how to discover other ubuntu channels and how to connect to them?
[17:54] <Pici> !irc | ekoma
[17:54] <rainofkayos> depends on ur client the best way to do...
[17:54] <rainofkayos> cool
[17:54] <jero> after all those years noone has written a capable app to configure pointing devices keys properly
[17:55] <jero> this makes me quite sceptical
[17:55] <notsi> hello everyone :) i really need help pls
[17:55] <ekoma> !irc | ekoma
[17:55] <churl> nosbig: shoot
[17:55] <notsi> my freind is at the server host installing ubuntu but he has an ip problem
[17:55] <ekoma> yeah i saw it thank you very much ubottu
[17:56] <notsi> he keeps useing manual ip setting and everythign is fine .. but every time he restarts the machine it goes bakc to automatic ip
[17:56] <Fire7x> ciao
[17:56] <notsi> how can someone use only manual ip and not automatic?
[17:57] <rainofkayos> edit interfaces file
[17:57] <Pici> ekoma: ubottu is a bot. It responds to in channel !triggers.
[17:57] <Pici> !bot
[17:57] <notsi> Pici could u please help me?
[17:57] <DigitalFiz> anyone having issues with aim?
[17:57] <Pici> notsi: I'm actually just about to run off. Ask the channel the question and if someone knows the answer they should be able to help you.
[17:58] <rainofkayos> u need to edit the interfaces file and remove the dhcp package
[17:58] <notsi> my freind is tring to set manual ip on ubuntu and it works .. but ever tim ehe restarts the machine it jumps back to automatic .. can someone pelase help us ?
[17:58] <notsi> !
[17:58] <notsi> Thank you rainofkayos i will call him right now!
[17:58] <tiredbones> What package is best for backing up files to dvd?
[17:58] <rainofkayos> remove the dhcp package to stop it from starting auto
[17:59] <rainofkayos> if he/she needs it back just apt-get it
[17:59] <rainofkayos> notsi: sure
[17:59] <notsi> i am on the phone with him now .. where would we find the remove dhcp option?
[18:00] <rainofkayos> first do dpkg -l | grep -i *dhcp*
[18:00] <rainofkayos> see what the name of the package is and remove it
[18:00] <rainofkayos> apt-get remove
[18:01] <rainofkayos> edit the /etc/network/interfaces file to match the static IP setting that fit ur network
[18:01] <rainofkayos> on reboot dhcp shouldn't start and the machine will use the static setting in interfaces file
[18:05] <syockit> Droopsta915: no, qt is a toolkit name. maybe it's difficult to understand, simply said, it's more for kubuntu rather than ubuntu
[18:05] <syockit> Droopsta915: but you can still use it on ubuntu
[18:05] <notsi> rainofkeyos: he used "dpkg -l | grep -i *dhcp*" and nothing happend
[18:06] <rainofkayos> hmm
[18:06] <tristanmike> Hi, sorry to bother, don't see anything in the topic... is the Main Server having issues ?
[18:07] <rainofkayos> could b
[18:07] <notsi> rainofkayos i have remote controle .. i typed " dpkg -l | grep -i *dhcp*" and nothin ghappend
[18:07] <adante> hi, can someone tell me how to disable reverse dns lookups in syslog?
[18:08] <rainofkayos> did u already remove dhcp?
[18:08] <notsi> all i did was type dpkg -l | grep -i *dhcp* in the terminal
[18:08] <rainofkayos> take the p off
[18:08] <notsi> no .. i .. i dont even know how to recognize it:(
[18:08] <notsi> oh ok
[18:08] <notsi> wait with p?:P
[18:09] <notsi> dkg -l | gre -i *dhc*
[18:09] <notsi> liek this?
[18:09] <rainofkayos> yea
[18:09] <rainofkayos> no
[18:09] <rainofkayos> dpkg -l | grep -i dhc
[18:09] <notsi> ok it gave me this
[18:10] <zdobersek> Does anybody have a working wireless connection in Jaunty Alpha4? With Belkin's USB adapter, NetworkManager appears to be connected to the wifi network with ~90% signal strength, but no packages seem to transmit and loading any page fails. Anybody having same problem or even solution for it?
[18:10] <notsi> Damn no ctl c! sec let me type
[18:10] <rainofkayos> no u dont have to control C with linux
[18:10] <rainofkayos> just high light it and use the middle button to copy
[18:10] <^hashbang^> zdobersek: try #ubuntu+1
[18:10] <notsi> ii  dhcp3-client                               3.1.1-1ubuntu2                          DHCP client
[18:10] <notsi> ii  dhcp3-common                               3.1.1-1ubuntu2                          common files used by all the dhcp3* packages
[18:10] <notsi> root@WizCraft:~#
[18:10] <rainofkayos> yep
[18:11] <^hashbang^> zdobersek: the just helped me with an nvidia issue
[18:11] <DIFH-iceroot> notsi: shift + insert == ctl c
[18:11] <^hashbang^> they*
[18:11] <rainofkayos> i think u should use paste bin when pasting in the chat though =)
[18:11] <zdobersek> ^hashbang^: thanks.
[18:11] <notsi> i manged thank you .. this is what it gave me
[18:11] <rainofkayos> remove those afterr u edit the interfaces file
[18:11] <hubar> notsi, do it in gnome-terminal, don't do it in retarded xterm.
[18:11] <rainofkayos> .. do u know how to edit the interfaces file?
[18:11] <rainofkayos> =0
[18:11] <DIFH-iceroot> rainofkayos: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[18:11] <notsi> no:(
[18:11] <rainofkayos> well if u need a gui do it like that
[18:11] <hubar> I hate the convention where you need to use middle button to copy/paste
[18:11] <notsi> d.. do u want accses?
[18:12] <hubar> It is incredibly stupid.
[18:12] <rainofkayos> DIFH-iceroot: yep he still should remove the client if hes going static
[18:12] <tristanmike> hubar: in my opinion, it's very smart
[18:12] <notsi> i can get u accses thu vnc to our server .. were just newbi's at linux but running a public server
[18:12] <hubar> smart?
[18:12] <hubar> I hate to use mouse.
[18:12] <tristanmike> hubar: lol, there's the rub ;)
[18:12] <rainofkayos> hmm
[18:13] <ParhelicTriangle> you can use shift-insert as well
[18:13] <Droopsta915> how can extract a rar file?
[18:13] <rainofkayos> yep
[18:13] <DIFH-iceroot> notsi: never!!!! give anybody access to your pc!!!!
[18:13] <fosco__> !rar | Droopsta915
[18:13] <rainofkayos> yep
[18:13] <notsi> 1 its not my pc its my server 2 i will change pass 3 i need help i am a linux noob:( and my server is dieing :(
[18:13] <rainofkayos> notsi: as i said..
[18:13] <rainofkayos> edit interfaces file...
[18:13] <rainofkayos> and remove dhcp packages
[18:14] <rainofkayos> reboot and u will have a static address
[18:14] <notsi> where can i find that file sir?
[18:14] <boshhead> epiphany-webkit or epiphany-gecko?
[18:14] <DIFH-iceroot> notsi: again!! never give anybody access to your pc and dont host a linux-server if you dont know anything about linux because then it will be a spam relay or something like that
[18:14] <rainofkayos> /etc/network/interfaces
[18:14] <gescape> hi, is there a way so I can use kde 4.2 along with gnome on the same system?.. e.g. I'd like to create "kdeuser" and play around with kde but leave my current user desktop (gnome) intact
[18:14] <tristanmike> gescape: you should be able to install Kubuntu along side of Ubuntu and switch via the logon window.
[18:15] <fosco__> gescape, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:15] <tristanmike> gescape: using the command fosco__ gave you
[18:15] <Ace2016_-> Hi all
[18:15] <DIFH-iceroot> fosco__: tristanmike he want kde 4.2, so kubuntu-desktop is wrong
[18:16] <gescape> will it leave my gnome intact??? that's absolutely important.. I do not want to lose any of my data
[18:16] <tristanmike> DIFH-iceroot: oops, missed that
[18:16] <fosco__> DIFH-iceroot, well, packet is allright but respos don't :)
[18:16] <Ace2016_-> how do you rearrange the columns in rhythmbox?
[18:16] <DIFH-iceroot> fosco__: kubuntu-desktop is 4.2?
[18:17] <fosco__> with the right repos yes, with intrepid official repos don't
[18:17] <gescape> yes, I think kubuntu-desktop does not use 4.2
[18:17] <notsi> i foound the interface file
[18:17] <notsi> this is the only thing it contains
[18:17] <notsi> auto lo
[18:17] <notsi> iface lo inet loopback
[18:17] <rainofkayos> dont touch the loop back
[18:17] <rainofkayos> just edit the eth0 or the likes
[18:17] <rainofkayos> lo is the loop back
[18:17] <tristanmike> Ace2016_-: under "Edit-Preferences" you can change which columns are available, but I don't think you can actually move them around
[18:17] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me with my Microphone?
[18:17] <notsi> so remove" lo"?
[18:18] <Ace2016_-> :/
[18:18] <rainofkayos> NO
[18:18] <rainofkayos> lol leave that
[18:18] <tiredbones> I wish to backup my home directory to a dvd , how do i get the hidden also?
[18:18] <notsi> ok ok
[18:18] <rainofkayos> where not removing any interface here..
[18:18] <tiredbones> I wish to backup my home directory to a dvd , how do i get the hidden files  also?
[18:18] <rainofkayos> actually before u edit any file take a backup
[18:18] <Ace2016_-> tiredbones: what app are you using?
[18:18] <rainofkayos> cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.good
[18:19] <Ace2016_-> tiredbones: in gnomebaker its rightclick > show hidden files
[18:19] <rainofkayos> then move to edit eth0 to have a static setting..
[18:19] <rainofkayos> im finding a link for u now...
[18:19] <rainofkayos> for the syntax
[18:19] <tiredbones> Ace2016_, I'm on rel 8.04
[18:20] <rainofkayos> http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[18:20] <rainofkayos> notsi: look at that link for an example of syntax
[18:20] <notsi> but i dont have eth0 :( i only have the following
[18:20] <notsi> auto lo
[18:20] <notsi> iface lo inet loopback
[18:20] <notsi> looking
[18:20] <tiredbones> Ace2016_,  Place -> CD/DVD creator
[18:21] <_VIM_> Why are the forums always down? :(
[18:21] <rainofkayos> do ifconfig on the command line and tell me the interfaes u see
[18:21] <tiredbones> Ace2016_-,  Place -> CD/DVD creator
[18:21] <_VIM_> or extremely slow
[18:22] <mikeshollen> Could anyone help me configure my Microphone?
[18:22] <Ace2016_-> tiredbones: Alt+F2, run gnomebaker, right click on the list of files > show hidden files
[18:23] <notsi> 1 . THANK YOU OMG THANK U SO MUCH I LOVE THIS PLACEEEEE!!!!!!!!! 2. we belive this link u gave us will help us thru rain !
[18:23] <rainofkayos> np
[18:23] <notsi> if i got u renight we need to replace:
[18:24] <notsi> auto lo
[18:24] <notsi> iface lo inet loopback
[18:24] <notsi> with
[18:24] <rainofkayos> no no no
[18:24] <rainofkayos> do not replace auto lo
[18:24] <rainofkayos> leave the loop back interface
[18:24] <velko> !enter > notsi
[18:25] <sep1318> \join #kubuntu-kde4
[18:25] <notsi> so to placeauto eth0
[18:25] <notsi> iface eth0 inet static
[18:25] <notsi>         address 192.168.0.100
[18:25] <notsi>         netmask 255.255.255.0
[18:25] <notsi>         network 192.168.0.0
[18:25] <FloodBot1> notsi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <notsi>         broadcast 192.168.0.255
[18:26] <rainofkayos> notsi: use the paste bin
[18:26] <rainofkayos> copy ur ifconfig -a output to a pastebin
[18:26] <notsi> i dont know how?
[18:26] <rainofkayos> ull see its easy go to that link
[18:26] <notsi> sec sec whats a broad cast.. is that = dns?
[18:26] <rainofkayos> no
[18:26] <tiredbones> Ace2016_-,  thanks
[18:26] <notsi> what is broad cast? and how do i add dns?
[18:26] <Ace2016_-> np
[18:27] <rainofkayos> if ur network were 10.0.0.0/8 ur broadcast is 10.255.255.255
[18:27] <sep1318> \quit
[18:27] <CarlFK> other than System/Admin/Hardware Testing (which no longer gives me much feedback) is there anything that will help me figure out what hardware in my box is/isn't supported?
[18:27] <rainofkayos> if ur network is 192.168.0.0/24 rhen the broadcast is 192.168.0.255
[18:28] <blaenkMB> !ntfs
[18:28] <blaenkMB> !ntfs-3G
[18:28] <squidly> any one have ideas how to help me trouble shoot a suspend/power off issue on my laptop
[18:28] <_VIM_> Anyone else getting a 503 error on the forums?
[18:28] <squidly> _VIM_: yep
[18:28] <_VIM_> :/
[18:28] <rainofkayos> acpi_listen ?
[18:29] <_VIM_> I try google cache then, thanks squidly
[18:29] <squidly> rainofkayos: ??
[18:29] <squidly> _VIM_: it works now
[18:29] <squidly> _VIM_: there was a proxy error
[18:29] <_VIM_> ah
[18:29] <notsi> umm ok rain thank u Very much for ur assistance but my freind who is at the host just gave up and started screaming (guess we just cant handle linux)
[18:30] <rainofkayos> uh oh
[18:30] <w525aa> hola chicos
[18:30] <rainofkayos> its simple really..
[18:30] <notsi> yea:( guess our beloved wizcraft wont be online tonight ..
[18:30] <rainofkayos> were u connected to dhcp previously?
[18:30] <notsi> Oh i am sure it is but we totaly lack any expiriance with linux so everything slows us down
[18:30] <notsi> i assume so but i realyl dont know
[18:31] <rainofkayos> well was it on the netwrok before?
[18:31] <DragonLord-> How do I check if a port is used, and by which application?
[18:31] <blizzle> notsi, Once you overcome the learning curve, Linux will help your workflow improve. Worth persevering with.
[18:31] <rainofkayos> lsof -i :<port>
[18:31] <notsi> yes yes it was but not a static one
[18:31] <rainofkayos> @ DragonLord-
[18:31] <rainofkayos> or u can use netstat -pane
[18:31] <notsi> my hopes is that once my partnet will get here we wil lbe able to try again
[18:31] <DragonLord-> okey, thanks
[18:31] <rainofkayos> sure
[18:31] <vikasap> Guys, I am on ubuntu 8.04 and I need to install the linux-backports-modules
[18:31] <erUSUL> DragonLord-: sudo lsof -i :portnumber
[18:31] <vikasap> How do I do it ?
[18:32] <beargins> haha
[18:32] <beargins> ok
[18:32] <rainofkayos> well.. yea if ur not root already ;>
[18:32] <notsi> i wrote it all down .. and i hope ti will help us ..
[18:32] <erUSUL> !software | vikasap
[18:32] <squidly> rainofkayos: what do you mean by acpi_listen?
[18:32] <blaenkMB> hey guys in the 'automatically mount partitions' wiki page it says 'wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter' but that script is no longer there
[18:32] <notsi> once again thank u and sorry for breaking aa few rules here:(
[18:32] <rainofkayos> it's a command i believe it can monitor power states
[18:32] <notsi> i will try and return with my freind and hopefulyl we can finish this :(
[18:32] <notsi> thanks
[18:32] <kebomix> how to change lan card mac address in ubutnu 8.10 ?
[18:32] <spass> blaenkMB: read about fstab
[18:32] <vikasap> erUSUL: I know how to install , but the backporting module is not available , so can you please tell me how do I find it
[18:32] <rainofkayos> u would need to look into it's usage.. which is why i said "acpi_listen?"
[18:32] <Awsoonn_> I have passwd file from computer A and would like to recreate the users on system B, how might I go about scripting such a thing?
[18:33] <blaenkMB> spass: that script used to allow me to do things really fast/easily/automatically, I'd rather not screw around with fstab if I don't need to
[18:33] <rainofkayos> rsync /etc/passwd in crontab
[18:33] <squidly> rainofkayos: when I try it from the xfce logout option I get nothing
[18:33] <kebomix> how to change lan card mac address in ubutnu 8.10 ?
[18:34] <erUSUL> vikasap: well i found them pretty quickly http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-backport&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all
[18:34] <rainofkayos> i dont use xfce alot but the command should work in the console
[18:34] <squidly> rainofkayos: yea
[18:34] <vikasap> Thanks erUSUL
[18:34] <CarlFK> whats the thing that gives me a desktop cube or whatever that nifty UI candy is?
[18:35] <rainofkayos> compiz
[18:35] <squidly> CarlFK: compiz
[18:35] <squidly> hmm
[18:35] <rainofkayos> squidly: give me a second
[18:35] <rainofkayos> im looking into that
[18:35] <rainofkayos> google =>
[18:35] <Awsoonn_> using a bash script, how can I break a line of text into three variables?
[18:36] <spass> Awsoonn_: cut ?
[18:36] <dixon208> how do i get kde 4.2.0 installed as a desktop on ubuntu 8.10
[18:36] <dixon208> ?
[18:36] <rainofkayos> expand the variables?
[18:37] <rainofkayos> squidly: http://linux.die.net/man/8/acpi_listen
[18:37] <Awsoonn_> spass: that is my first thought, but how can I make it read one line of text directly, or tell it to only parse a given line?
[18:37] <DragonLord-> Why do I have to run a Java SocketServer (port 843) with sudo? I have changed owner with chown to my normal user account.
[18:37] <CarlFK> squidly: how do I "combiz" :)  or whatever
[18:37] <spass> Awsoonn_: try witch awk
[18:38] <DragonLord-> I get "Port already in use" if I don't use sudo
[18:38] <spass> Awsoonn_: echo file | awk '{<actions for each line}'
[18:38] <nanotube> DragonLord-: i recall there being a restriction on opening any ports <= 1024 by non-root users
[18:38] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me setup my mic?
[18:38] <Stefan100> lol
[18:38] <Stefan100> How do I install git?
[18:38] <Awsoonn_> spass: I'll see what I can do with awk, thanks
[18:38] <nanotube> Stefan100: probably "sudo apt-get install git" ?
[18:39] <DragonLord-> nanotube okey, that is probarly true, thanks
[18:39] <nanotube> DragonLord-: try a higher port number and see if the problem still persists. if not, then that's it. :)
[18:39] <Stefan100> no idea what you are talking about. I am a newbie.
[18:40] <nanotube> Stefan100: then why do you want git? git is a source code version control system, and is decidedly not for newbies...
[18:40] <kavity> Why isn't git good for noobies.
[18:40] <Stefan100> I am a newbie to Ubuntu, not to git/source code/development
[18:40] <erUSUL> kavity: ask in #git XD
[18:40] <nanotube> Stefan100: ah i see. ok :)
[18:40] <DragonLord-> nanotube yes, will try :)
[18:41] <nanotube> Stefan100: well.. see here, then:
[18:41] <rainofkayos> ports lower than 1024 are priveledged and need priv escalation
[18:41] <nanotube> !apt | Stefan100
[18:41] <nanotube> !synaptic | Stefan100
[18:41] <dixon208> would i do sudo apt-get install kde 4.2.0 to get it?
[18:41] <squidly> rainofkayos: thanks
[18:41] <squidly> i'll look that over
[18:42] <Stefan100> ...ok, synaptic
[18:42] <CarlFK> neat: run combiz in an ssh shell, with X forwarding... amazing things happen.  reboot should fix it... brb
[18:42] <nanotube> dixon208: kde 4.2 is not in the official ubuntu repos for 8.10, since it was released just recently.
[18:42] <nanotube> dixon208: you may be able to find a third-party repository that hosts kde4.2 packages for ubuntu 8.10, though.
[18:42] <dixon208> ah
[18:42] <dixon208> where would i find those nanotube?
[18:42] <erUSUL> !ppa | dixon208
[18:43] <nanotube> dixon208: google around, i can't give you a specific link off the top of my head...
[18:45] <nanotube> Stefan100: probably package "git-core" is what you're looking for. just search in synaptic for packagename == "git", and see what you have.
[18:45] <dixon208> ok well thanks everyone who helped :) ^_^
[18:46] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me get my mic working?
[18:46] <_2> i have an app that keeps crashing,  kolorpaint by name,  i have traced it to OOMK, so i ran a while loop to record the memory usage "http://pastebin.com/f494ef5aa".  does anyone have any interset in looking into this ?
[18:47] <Stefan100> ok...synaptic had git
[18:47] <_2> i'm wondering why the swapfile is not being used rather than OOMK killing the app ?
[18:48] <jbuncher> _2 is your swap actually turned on?
[18:48] <velko> mikeshollen, have you tried these instructions? worked like charm for me for a couple of machines. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[18:48] <mikeshollen> velko: thank you, i will read the link
[18:48] <_2> jbuncher did you look at the pastebin ?
[18:48] <_2> jbuncher short answer is YES
[18:49] <Oni> Hi
[18:49] <erUSUL> _2: well the app should be fixed its mamleaks plugged...
[18:49] <Oni> I have been a Linux user for about 5 years now
[18:49] <Oni> Why do people use Ubuntu?
[18:49] <erUSUL> !ot | Oni
[18:49] <jbuncher> _2:  .....clearly I did not, sorry.  Maybe you have a low swappiness value?
[18:49] <_2> erUSUL i agree, and seeing that it's dapper LTS it should already bne stable.
[18:50] <Oni> brb,  #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:50] <_2> jbuncher good call. i'll check.
[18:50] <erUSUL> !bugs | _2
[18:50] <orci> hi all, my ubuntu host system gets hot and shutsdown when a virtualbox virtual system does heavy load job. How can I track why the system is getting hot?
[18:51] <kjell> Suddeny my audio in stoped working. Could anyone think of a reason?
[18:51] <kjell> Suddenly*
[18:51] <Silenx> after an update?
[18:51] <MoLoot> orci  Have you verified that your cooling fans and cpu fan is working properly?
[18:51] <MoLoot> is=are
[18:51] <kjell> Silenx: I did some kind of a codec update lately but i uninstalled it to check if it caused the problem.
[18:52] <dayo_> an app that let's me convert .avi to .mpeg     any recommendations?
[18:53] <jbuncher> _2 :  any luck?
[18:53] <Silenx> try to reconfigure pulseaudio kjell
[18:53] <_2> jbuncher not yet.
[18:54] <kjell> Silenx: Will try a reboot. I be right back. Thanks for the help.
[18:54] <_2> jbuncher swappiness is listed as  Priority  in /proc/swaps  correct ?
[18:55] <uman_> Hi guys. My mobo got fried so i transferred my hdds to another pc. (my old pc had an nvidia gfx card with nvidia dfrivers, this new pc only has onboard graphics from ATI, with ati drivers now) Unfortunately this new box with ubuntu 8.10 does not receognize my usb cable modem.. it does not even show if i use the lsusb command. What could the problem be, are there any usb drivers i can uninstall/reinstall/install or go down to another kernel. Ps, other usb
[18:55] <uman_> devices (mouse, flash drives, ipod) work fine.. Thanks. Im really lost here . Also, i get an error with the network interface eth2 which used to be my cablemodem, it says SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device when i click a network icon on the taskbar. thanks
[18:57] <drash> dayo_: plenty of options, but http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/22/easily-convert-videos-with-winff-and-ffmpeg/ might be of interest
[18:57] <kjell> Silenx: A good ol' restart did it.
[18:57] <Silenx> :)
[18:57] <jbuncher> _2 :  I'm not sure, actually.  I just remember there being a setting somewhere.  That seems like it could be it though.  *googles*
[18:58] <Silenx> kjell, it rocks
[18:58] <Archonian> can i install the ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64 version on an intel system ?
[19:00] <jbuncher> _2 :  the info I found says that the swappiness is set in /etc/sysctl.conf, with "vm.swappiness = numberbetween0and100"
[19:00] <raheem> Archonian, if your system is 64 bit, yes
[19:00] <jbuncher> Archonian:  If it's a 64-bit processor like the Core 2's or Core i7's, then yes
[19:00] <jbuncher> jbuncher:  not if it's an itanium processor though
[19:01] <Archonian> ok, good... I'm using a 64-bit system, right now, I'm using 64 bit Vista and I want to install linux so I guess the ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64 is the one i want
[19:01] <Silenx> Archonian, amd64 means all x86_64 processor based
[19:01] <Archonian> i'm using intel core 2 duo 3 GHz E8400 processor
[19:02] <Archonian> Silenx: OK, I was afraid it was only for AMD processors
[19:02] <mac9416> Hey, ya'll! Where does apt-get/Synaptic cache downloaded debs?
[19:02] <jbuncher> Archonian: that should do it then, the amd64 should work (can always just try a livecd and see if it does anyway!)
[19:02] <Pici> mac9416: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:03] <Silenx> Archonian, i use debian-amd64 ( like ubuntu-amd64 ) on an intel core2duo
[19:03] <Silenx> and it rox
[19:03] <jbuncher> Are there any kernel devs in here that could help me troubleshoot intel wireless connectivity?  Connecting to WPA Enterprise SSID Hidden with 2.6.24-23 always fails, but with 2.6.24-22 it always succeeds.  Bugreport and syslogs for failed and successful connection attempts are at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317976 .  Thanks for your time!
[19:04] <mac9416> Pici: How long will those files stay there?
[19:04] <mac9416> Pici: Til reboot?
[19:04] <Pici> mac9416: Until you `apt-get clean` them
[19:04] <jbuncher> mac9416:  I think there's a cron job that cleans out ones that are older than 30 days or so, but you can run "apt-get clean" to manually remove them
[19:05] <Archonian> how's ubuntu with drivers, is it good at automatically finding drivers for hardware, or it doesn't do that?
[19:05] <mac9416> Pici, jbuncher: Okee-Dokee! Thanks!
[19:05] <jacksonhyde> hey guys and gals - I got a doozy of a problem. Anyone got five minutes they could spare please?
[19:05] <raheem> Archonian, it must pick everything, in most cases. but try the livecd and see it urself ;)
[19:05] <_VIM_> Archonian: that is a very broad question
[19:05] <uman1> Hi guys. My mobo got fried so i transferred my hdds to another pc. (my old pc had an nvidia gfx card with nvidia dfrivers, this new pc only has onboard graphics from ATI, with ati drivers now) Unfortunately this new box with ubuntu 8.10 does not receognize my usb cable modem.. it does not even show if i use the lsusb command. What could the problem be, are there any usb drivers i can uninstall/reinstall/install or go down to another kernel. Ps, other usb
[19:05] <uman1> devices (mouse, flash drives, ipod) work fine.. Thanks. Im really lost here . Also, i get an error with the network interface eth2 which used to be my cablemodem, it says SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device when i click a network icon on the taskbar. thanks
[19:05] <tuna-fish> how can I recover an ext3 filesystem that says  "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,
[19:05] <_VIM_> depending on hardware in question
[19:05] <tuna-fish>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error" when trying to mount
[19:06] <TuxSympathiser> my laptop keeps hard locking
[19:06] <^hashbang^> Archonian: I have a core 2 duo 2.4Gz and I just installed 9.04 amd64 and things work well
[19:06] <jbuncher> tuna-fish, with the drive unmounted, try running fsck.ext3 on the drive
[19:07] <csunew> Where can I learn detailedly about configure my ubuntu
[19:07] <raheem> csunew, help.ubuntu.com
[19:07] <jacksonhyde> basically, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 on my girlfriends laptop (a dodgy old Sharp machine), but her enter key is broken so I can't select anything in the bios. Any ideas?
[19:07] <jacksonhyde> My USB keyboard won't work.
[19:07] <velko> tuna-fish, "sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/sdc" if you are sure that the whole drive (as opposed to single partition) is occupied by the file system. else you have to use "/dev/sdc1" instead
[19:07] <TuxSympathiser> I need some help please
[19:07] <ConstantineXVI> Does Evolution support SyncML, like what Google Sync uses now?
[19:08] <letalis> jacksonhyde: man if the enter key is screwed that could be a problem
[19:08] <jacksonhyde> tell me about it :/
[19:08] <letalis> is it totally hosed or does it look repairable?
[19:08] <jacksonhyde> It just doesn't work.
[19:08] <drash> jacksonhyde: did you try tabbing around and hitting the spacebar to 'enter' yet ?
[19:08] <tuna-fish> jbuncher, velko: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem
[19:08] <^hashbang^> jacksonhyde: might be time to look into a new keyboard for that laptop, or a new used laptop... or an acer one laptop
[19:08] <jacksonhyde> It looks good from the top, but pressing gets nothing.
[19:08] <jacksonhyde> yeah, tabbing and spacebar don't work.
[19:09] <letalis> sounds liek the sensor in the key has died :/
[19:09] <tuna-fish> jbuncher, velko: trying the alternate superblock doesn't seem to help
[19:09] <jacksonhyde> If I had a PS2 keyboard I think it might work, I don't think the bios can read USB keyboards...
[19:09] <letalis> short of rpelacing the keyboard in it theres probably nothing one could do to fix that.
[19:09] <rainofkayos> depending on the type pf board u may be able to pop the cap on the enter key and clean the contacts...but preferably
[19:09] <rainofkayos> u should replace the keyboard
[19:09] <jacksonhyde> yeah, not many places selling keyboards for five year old laptops at 7:00pm unfortunately. :(
[19:10] <jacksonhyde> and I want it noooowwww. :)
[19:10] <velko> tuna-fish, if you have important data on this drive the first step should be to make a copy of it with dd and try to repair the copy
[19:10] <rainofkayos> oops this is a lptop?
[19:10] <jacksonhyde> yeah
[19:10] <rainofkayos> srry
[19:10] <jacksonhyde> np
[19:10] <velko> tuna-fish, else you could lose all your data
[19:10] <evoke> hello
[19:10] <Archonian> hashbang: OK good to know
[19:10] <jacksonhyde> I've tried plugging a USB laptop in, but it doesn't register.
[19:10] <rainofkayos> needs to be shop repaired in this case if the key is truly shot
[19:10] <jacksonhyde> I figured.
[19:10] <rainofkayos> hmm check bios for that option..
[19:10] <evoke> does anyone know what you can do on a ubuntu 8.04 server without being root
[19:10] <rainofkayos> u may need to disable something to use a usb keyboard
[19:11] <jacksonhyde> yeah, nothing in the bios, and I couldn't change any values even if I found it. :/
[19:11] <letalis> the keyboard in a laptop can be replaced but its a lot harder to find them and you for certain got to go throught the manucaturer for it :/
[19:11] <rainofkayos> grr.
[19:11] <evoke> does seem much regarding installing software
[19:11] <rainofkayos> yep it's a shop visit for sure
[19:11] <jacksonhyde> it's got XP on it at the moment, I might try remapping the keys and then doing a clean install of XP>
[19:11] <DIFH-iceroot> evoke: everything if the user can use sudo
[19:11] <Archonian> i'm using Windows Vista on one harddrive, with one C: drive (Vista installation) and another E: (unallocated space)... do i want to keep the unallocated space unallocated when booting with the ubuntu cd?
[19:11] <rainofkayos> maybe
[19:11] <evoke> no sudo
[19:11] <evoke> damn
[19:11] <evoke> well not at the moment
[19:12] <jacksonhyde> if you remap the enter key, will it change it in the bios or is it a process that has to boot up?
[19:12] <jbuncher> evoke:  You have to be root (or have sudo'd to elevate your priviledges) in order to install/remove software.
[19:12] <csunew> hello,my
[19:12] <jacksonhyde> this is XP (sorry..dirty word I know).
[19:12] <AJC_Z0> When inserting removable media (CD, DVD), a window pops up offering to use a list of applications. How do I add and app to that list?
[19:12] <edmondscommerce> hi all
[19:12] <edmondscommerce> anyone able to help me find the hosts file
[19:12] <edmondscommerce> i knew where it was in hardy but its now gone..
[19:12] <rainofkayos> the hosts file under /etc/
[19:12] <letalis> well windows has uses, it makes a nice shiny coaster for my mountain dew to sit on.
[19:13] <letalis> and man are they fancy.
[19:13] <letalis> :D
[19:13] <raheem> jacksonhyde, i wonder if u have an external keyboard around
[19:13] <edmondscommerce> ah ok thanks
[19:13] <kavity> Anyone able to help me get my onboard microphone to record?
[19:13] <jacksonhyde> yeah, I got two USB ones, but no PS2 ones.
[19:13] <drash> AJC_Z0: some of these options are configurable via nautilus > edit > preferences i believe
[19:13] <jbuncher> Archonian, I don't think I understand the question.  Are you planning to install ot that space?
[19:13] <rainofkayos> kavity: have you checked ur input levels?
[19:13] <kavity> Yes.
[19:13] <Archonian> jbuncher: on the E:, the unallocated space yes, I want to put ubuntu there
[19:14] <jbuncher> letalis:  It's a good thing they're fancy too, imagine how ruined your table would get if that wasn't an "authentic" microsoft coaster!  They're really just protecting you.....
[19:14] <Archonian> jbuncher: it's about 20GB
[19:14] <rainofkayos> is the device recognized when plugging in and out of the port? (tail messages?)
[19:14] <kavity> Though, it's telling me to check my input device, but everything in audacity is set correctly, as are the settings in alsamixer.
[19:14] <raheem> to save the settings in bios, most bios use a short cut of f10, try urs supports it. if it does, then u can enable usb support in bios, save it by f10 .. not sure though
[19:14] <rainofkayos> hmm
[19:14] <letalis> yes
[19:14] <letalis> praise the EULA
[19:14] <letalis> LOL
[19:15] <jbuncher> Archonian:  You'll also need space for a swap partition, so you might need to re-partition that part.  As for the livecd though, it will boot to the OS without having to modify your drives.
[19:15] <jacksonhyde> well, I can install XP using the mouse, but it sure as hell at Ubuntu :(
[19:15] <rainofkayos> i would check a setup manual in this case and just work my way through the steps again kavity
[19:15] <raheem> jacksonhyde, to save the settings in bios, most bios use a short cut of f10, try urs supports it. if it does, then u can enable usb support in bios, save it by f10 .. not sure though
[19:15] <rainofkayos> yep raheem
[19:15] <kavity> Yeah, I'll figure it out eventually.
[19:16] <jacksonhyde> yeah, tried that. problem is my bios uses the enter key to toggle settings.
[19:16] <rainofkayos> lol
[19:16] <rainofkayos> thats horrible
[19:16] <Archonian> jbuncher: but the ubuntu install cd can repartition this space for me, and create the swap partition? how big should that swap partition be?
[19:16] <AJC_Z0> drash: Thank you. Looking in the "Media" tab I see a drop down for the (common) media types, but no way to add to the (empty) lists of apps
[19:16] <jacksonhyde> yup
[19:16] <skeebo> Would anyone know of a good website to see reviews of mmorpgs for linux? Or at least a list of decent mmos?
[19:16] <^hashbang^> jacksonhyde: spacebar won't work for changing settings?
[19:16] <jacksonhyde> nope
[19:16] <Ego86> hi all! i have an ati radeon hd 3800 graphic card, and when i start the ubuntu 8.10 liveCD it shows me a white screen after X is loaded. also this happened when i tried to install the debian lenny. in xorg.conf i founded nothing in Section "Device", only one row... can anyone help me?
[19:16] <^hashbang^> hm
[19:16] <raheem> jacksonhyde, try pagedown/pageup keys ..
[19:16] <jacksonhyde> yeah, they just scroll through the options.
[19:16] <jbuncher> Archonian:  Yes, the livecd has a partitioner that can be used to do that.  How much ram do you have?
[19:16] <jacksonhyde> I've tried every key on there. Nada.
[19:16] <rainofkayos> how about tabbing out?
[19:17] <jacksonhyde> tabs between the er..tabs of the bios screen
[19:17] <Archonian> jbuncher: 8 GB
[19:17] <rainofkayos> hmm
[19:17] <rainofkayos> what vendor laptop?
[19:17] <jbuncher> Archonian:  Yikes.  8GB of RAM, and only 20GB for installing linux?
[19:17] <jacksonhyde> I wanted to sort her laptop out but also use it as a Ruby on Rails dev environment, I guess I'll just have to do it in XP now...
[19:18] <orci> MoLoot, how can I do that. It is a thinkpad laptop with one fan. It did not shutdown in any other case until now
[19:18] <blutrille> have questions about making an iso using 8.10
[19:18] <Archonian> jbuncher: well, I have a 500 GB harddrive, so I can get additional space from there if needed
[19:18] <Archonian> how much do you recommend
[19:18] <drash> AJC_Z0: personally using xubuntu, hence i'm not sure on how to proceed .. there's gnome-volume-manager though, that might already be installed on your system ..
[19:19] <ConstantineXVI> Can Evolution sync via SyncML?
[19:19] <jacksonhyde> gah...I can't even install XP!
[19:19] <kavity> You can a stable linux install on less than 600MB's, 20GB should be more than enough.
[19:19] <jacksonhyde> It asks you to press the enter key to install XP.
[19:19] <kavity> install a good*
[19:19] <kavity> have a good. :/
[19:19] <uman1> Hi guys. My mobo got fried so i transferred my hdds to another pc. (my old pc had an nvidia gfx card with nvidia dfrivers, this new pc only has onboard graphics from ATI, with ati drivers now) Unfortunately this new box with ubuntu 8.10 does not receognize my usb cable modem.. it does not even show if i use the lsusb command. What could the problem be, are there any usb drivers i can uninstall/reinstall/install or go down to another kernel. Ps, other usb
[19:19] <uman1> devices (mouse, flash drives, ipod) work fine.. Thanks. Im really lost here . Also, i get an error with the network interface eth2 which used to be my cablemodem, it says SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device when i click a network icon on the taskbar. thanks
[19:20] <blutrille> anyone with experience creating iso in terminal?
[19:20] <^hashbang^> blutrille: mkisofs -r -o file.iso /location_of_folder/
[19:20] <_2> ok swap is not working.
[19:20] <jbuncher> Archonian:  I usually go with ~1GB over the RAM I have.  The reason is that if you want to hibernate (so computer is using zero power), the swap space is where the OS dumps all of your RAM.  So, if you're using all 8GB of ram and you want to hibernate, then you need 8GB free in your swap.  If you don't intend to hibernate (if it's a desktop and you just power off), you could probably get by with very little swap (512MB) due to the huge am
[19:20] <jbuncher> ount of ram you have.
[19:20] <rainofkayos> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=1024
[19:20] <ali1234> kavity: anybody who needs to ask the question is not going to be happy with a distro that fits in 600MB
[19:20] <raheem> Archonian, my default ubuntu installation took 2.7 gbs and right now it is taking 4.2 gbs
[19:20] <skeebo> Hello, I have a Windows XP vm running under vmware, with vmware tools installed. And I came up with the idea to use it to sync my ipod touch 2g (since there is no jailbreak) does anyone know if this is a good idea? or if I could run into problems doing it this way?
[19:21] <jacksonhyde> skeebo: shouldn't be a problem.
[19:21] <rainofkayos> no no problems... maybe latency
[19:21] <ali1234> 20GB / is reasonable though, if you have /home somewhere else
[19:21] <jacksonhyde> Might take longer to transfer the files, but apart from that it's party time.,
[19:21] <jbuncher> skeebo: USB devices under vmware can be iffy in my experience.
[19:21] <rainofkayos> and the vm will have control of the USB port for the duration of the sync
[19:21] <Ego86> have anyone a good idea what can i do with my ati radeon hd 3800? ubuntu 8.10 liveCD not works, debian lenny also not. in my every tries, the X server didn't started correctly, and the screen was white
[19:21] <raheem> skeebo, shouldn't be a problem.
[19:22] <^hashbang^> !ait |ego86
[19:22] <^hashbang^> !ati |ego86
[19:22] <skeebo> jbuncher: yes i noticed that raheem, thank you jacksonhyde thank you too
[19:22] <rob1336> !trash
[19:23] <kavity> Hrm/
[19:23] <jacksonhyde> uhoh...I think I just screwed the pooch.
[19:23] <^hashbang^> lol
[19:23] <^hashbang^> sorry, that was just funny
[19:23] <jacksonhyde> now the laptop is stuck in an install loop.
[19:23] <jacksonhyde> even without the OS cd in there.
[19:23] <_VIM_> hit and run bot abuser :D
[19:23] <csunew> where to download  a drive for Nvidia GeForce  9500Gt and 2.6.24 kernel ubuntu
[19:23] <^hashbang^> power the unit off
[19:23] <jacksonhyde> yup
[19:23] <^hashbang^> !nvidia | csunew
[19:24] <jacksonhyde> it asks me which OS to start...and I can't select it because of my frickin' broken enter key.
[19:24] <^hashbang^> doh!
[19:24] <^hashbang^> yea I think you just need to can that laptop bro
[19:24] <Archonian> jbuncher: gotcha... but I can access the partition that has Vista installed on it, in ubuntu can't I? I'm thinking I can use the remaining data on the C:, even stuff I use for ubuntu, or is this not a good idea?
[19:24] <jacksonhyde> !!
[19:24] <jacksonhyde> the enter key started working!
[19:24] <^hashbang^> ?!
[19:24] <Archonian> raheem: that's what i was expecting, about 4 GB, good to know, thanks
[19:24] <jacksonhyde> I just hammered it with my fist, something clicked and it worked!
[19:25] <^hashbang^> lol
[19:25] <^hashbang^> is this a dell laptop?
[19:25] <^hashbang^> lol
[19:25] <raheem> Archonian, welcome :)
[19:25] <jacksonhyde> the fred flintstone method of it support
[19:25] <rainofkayos> haha
[19:25] <skeebo> jacksonhyde: fonzi style ehh? that works for me all the time heh
[19:25] <jacksonhyde> nah, it's a 5 year old sharp.
[19:25] <^hashbang^> oh
[19:25] <jacksonhyde> haha..fonzi.
[19:25] <^hashbang^> lol ok
[19:25] <ali1234> crumbs in keyboard
[19:25] <jacksonhyde> "ayyy..."
[19:25] <jbuncher> Archonian:  Ubuntu should be able to read and write to the ntfs file system with Vista, so you can store your documents there if you want, yes.  I don't know if I'd "recommend" it though.
[19:25] <jacksonhyde> more like weed in the keyboard...I could roll a fatty with all this detritus.
[19:25] <Pici> !ot
[19:25] <_2> who here knows something about swap  and kernel memory usage/allocation  ???
[19:26] <jacksonhyde> sweet...now it's ubuntu time.
[19:26] <jbuncher> Archonian:  Though I'm usually more of a "better safe than sorry" user anyway, so I prefer to keep the vista/ubuntu filesystems completely separate.
[19:26] <_2> i have an OOMK issue with plenty of swap space avalable...  http://pastebin.com/f759f37c3
[19:26] <kavity> It's only easy to mount the ntfs system.
[19:26] <jacksonhyde> thanks for all your help guys - I got one more question actually..
[19:26] <^hashbang^> shoot!
[19:26] <kavity> BANG!
[19:27] <isase> ARRRG
[19:27] <^hashbang^> ouch!
[19:27] <sheena1> without understanding what i was doing, i restart my X server (ctrl, alt, backspace), and it appears to have disabled some of my graphics.. or something.. help???\
[19:27] <jacksonhyde> Does anyone have any experience of using a D-LINK DWL-G650 wifi card with the Madwifi drivers and 8.10?
[19:27] <kavity> jacksonhyde: I use the madwifi driver, but I don't have that card.
[19:27] <jacksonhyde> On the madwifi site it says it runs on 7.10 (downloading as we speak...), but I'd love to use Ibex.
[19:28] <Archonian> jbuncher: alright, I understand what you're saying...
[19:28] <jagggy> Hello all, I constantly get this error when installing anything with ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/d4d8c3d72 anyone has an idea off how to fix it?
[19:28] <kavity> jacksonhyde: The reason I stopped using ubuntu to go to another distro was because ibex wouldn't use my atheros(runs on madwifi) card, and I got annoyed, but this install it works fine, same laptop(just a few months later)
[19:28] <jacksonhyde> weird...
[19:28] <jacksonhyde> I dunno how much gyp I get from my missus if I installed Linux on her laptop though...
[19:29] <jacksonhyde> she gets annoyed when I tell her to boot up Firefox on my mac. :)
[19:29] <kavity> jacksonhyde: You could install a virtual PC thing on windows, if you just want to try it out.
[19:29] <jacksonhyde> She says "Where's the internet?" (looking for a small ugly blue 'e' icon...
[19:29] <ali1234> madwifi is depreciated, there's a newer atheros driver which is "more open" or something so everyone works on that now
[19:29] <kavity> Also, you could change your icons for her. :)
[19:29] <vigo> sheena1: Any replies yet?
[19:29] <quentusrex> What's the maximum length of a linux password?
[19:29] <jacksonhyde> ali: yeah? got a link?
[19:29] <jacksonhyde> kavity: heh..genius!
[19:29] <uman1> Hi guys. My mobo got fried so i transferred my hdds to another pc. (my old pc had an nvidia gfx card with nvidia dfrivers, this new pc only has onboard graphics from ATI, with ati drivers now) Unfortunately this new box with ubuntu 8.10 does not receognize my usb cable modem.. it does not even show if i use the lsusb command. What could the problem be, are there any usb drivers i can uninstall/reinstall/install or go down to another kernel. Ps, other usb
[19:29] <raheem> jacksonhyde, change the icon then :P
[19:30] <uman1> devices (mouse, flash drives, ipod) work fine.. Thanks. Im really lost here . Also, i get an error with the network interface eth2 which used to be my cablemodem, it says SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device when i click a network icon on the taskbar. thanks
[19:30] <sheena1> vigo, nope, but I've figured out that I don't think it disabled anything, maybe just changed my colour settings?
[19:30] <Ego86> ^hashbang^, i saw throug that link what you gave, but i don't find any instructions, what can i do when liveCD not works
[19:30] <^hashbang^> quentusrex: when your fingers get tired of typing =)
[19:30] <letalis> quentusrex: you mean just a basic login password?
[19:30] <quentusrex> letalis: yes.
[19:30] <Ego86> how can i install from liveCD if it don't starts
[19:30] <Ego86> ?
[19:30] <jagggy> Hello all, I constantly get this error when installing anything with ubuntu's apt-get function: http://pastebin.com/d4d8c3d72 anyone has an idea off how to fix it?
[19:30] <ali1234> it's still the same site (madwifi) it might still be called madwifi... but just beware that there is a "new" and an "old" driver... you probably want the new one
[19:30] <vigo> sheena1: Yes, you could reboot and restore it, that is a fast workaround
[19:30] <^hashbang^> Ego86: it's very likely that the drivers won't work with the live cd because the card is newer the the livecd kernel being used.
[19:30] <sheena1> vigo, i mostly would just like to know what exactly i did, cause it did fix the issue (little black dashes on my screen), but it also changed my colours
[19:31] <sheena1> vigo, so a reboot will bring my orange back? it's all blue now..
[19:31] <_2> jacksonhyde you mean that ugly blue meant internet ?  i thought it meant error     </pfft>
[19:31] <_2> ugly blue E
[19:31] <vigo> sheena1: Reboot and look at the options, one is Restore.
[19:31] <letalis> quentusrex: well i know mine has over 20 characters in it with spaces.
[19:31] <sheena1> vigo, i don't think i've ever seen that option, where exactly do i look?
[19:31] <blutrille> ^hashbang^: I have been using the LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch - Commuinty Ubuntu Documentation, the command line it gives to create the iso is considerably longer and does not work
[19:31] <jacksonhyde> _2 yeah...Internet Exploder is the bane of my existence.
[19:32] <letalis> though if you install ubuntu via wubi install you cant have spaces in the password at all.
[19:32] <omar_> kan i find  n spanish ubuntu's channel  please?
[19:32] <jacksonhyde> Try programming AJAX apps that need to work with IE5.5
[19:32] <Ego86> ^hashbang^, then how can i install it?
[19:32] <jacksonhyde> It's like wading through treacle.
[19:32] <vigo> sheena1: I will look up that problem now,,please hold
[19:32] <sheena1> vigo, but if it only changed my colour/theme stuff, i can just get used to it or fix it manually. that's no problem. I just want to make sure i didn't screw up everything!
[19:32] <nightrid3r> !es | omar_
[19:32] <omar_> kan i find  n spanish ubuntu's channel  please?
[19:32] <^hashbang^> blutrille: what type of ISO are you trying to make? a copy of a DVD/CD? or your own custom ISO?
[19:32] <Ego86> have any non-graphic installer in newest ubuntu liveCD?
[19:33] <blutrille> ^hashbang^:custom live iso
[19:33] <^hashbang^> Ego86: hmm, good question, never needed it so I don't know.
[19:33] <omar_> o muchisimas gracias ubottu
[19:33] <jagggy> Hello all, I constantly get this error when installing anything with ubuntu's apt-get function: http://pastebin.com/d4d8c3d72 anyone has an idea off how to fix it?
[19:33] <_2> OOMK is killing my app http://pastebin.com/f759f37c3
[19:33] <^hashbang^> blutrille: so your custom live cd stuff is in a folder? then using mkisofs is your best best
[19:33] <^hashbang^> blutrille: bet*
[19:34] <ali1234> _2: what app? one you wrote?
[19:34] <_2> ali1234 kolorpaint
[19:34] <blutrille> ^hashbang^: yeah thats what ive been using im not sure what part of the command line in the doc is wrong though
[19:34] <Ego86> okay, i'm gonna try something
[19:34] <Ego86> bye
[19:35] <ali1234> _2: at what point does it crash then?
[19:35] <vigo> sheena1: No, you did not really mess anything up.
[19:35] <^hashbang^> blutrille: blutrille: did you try: mkisofs -r -o your.iso /your_dir/
[19:35] <_2> ali1234 opening a second .png
[19:35] <blutrille> ^hashbang^:i have completed all previous steps in the doc i am only waiting to find out why the command line for making the final iso is not working
[19:35] <Archonian> jbuncher: thanks a lot for your help
[19:35] <_2> ali1234 or some times at closing the second one.
[19:35] <^hashbang^> blutrille: did you try: mkisofs -r -o your.iso /your_dir/
[19:35] <sheena1> vigo, thanks. i gotta run, but i'll try and figure out the restore thing later. thanks again.. I was shocked when it came back all blue.. i won't do things that i don't understand anymore!
[19:35] <ali1234> _2: what makes you think it is the OOMK?
[19:36] <_2> ali1234 cause that's what the message is in the console at the time  :)
[19:36] <Archonian> jbuncher: i'll try and install it in a moment
[19:36] <letalis> quentusrex: accordingingo th linuxforums.com, the max length on passwords is determined by the encryption scheme used.
[19:36] <blutrille> ^hashbang^:in the doc is listed a much longer version of that yes, i am not sure if the long version is ness?
[19:36] <quentusrex> letalis: so what is the ubuntu default encryption scheme?
[19:36] <mgolisch> _2: dont make it useup all memmory?
[19:36] <letalis> longer ones you need to use DES or blowfish encryption
[19:36] <ali1234> _2: uh hu... and how big is the png file?
[19:37] <_2> ali1234 umm 104m
[19:37] <^hashbang^> blutrille: try the shorter version. unless ofcourse you will need this cd to boot (which if it's a live cd I would think so).
[19:37] <jagggy> Hello all, I constantly get this error when installing anything with ubuntu's apt-get function: http://pastebin.com/d4d8c3d72 anyone has an idea off how to fix it??
[19:37] <ali1234> _2: what dimensions?
[19:37] <letalis> i know that mine is almost 20 chars in length so id say ubuntu by default uses blowfish or des
[19:37] <_2> mgolisch i'm not.  it has lots of swap free.
[19:37] <_2> ali1234 idk
[19:37] <blutrille> ^hashbang^:yes this cd does need to boot
[19:38] <ali1234> _2: well png is compressed... uncompressed in memory it could easily be 2GB +
[19:38] <_2> ali1234 http://pastebin.com/f759f37c3
[19:39] <_2> ali1234 it's not.  they are all the same size.
[19:39] <ldlework> Hi, I have a dell studio 15 with the broadcom wireless adapter. The networking works just great except that every few seconds ago I will massive lag spikes and then it will return to normal. There are no processes to be seen with Top that are causing this so I'm really confused. I know that Vista had a problem where the adapter would constantly try to queue all the networks in the area and that would cause a similar problem.
[19:39] <ali1234> _2: so what size is it?
[19:39] <Xenocide21> ur all fired.
[19:39] <^hashbang^> blutrille: did you try this.  http://pastebin.com/d379a667
[19:39] <_2> ali1234 and are you sure that png is conpressed.  jpg is but i thought bmp and png were non-compressed
[19:39] <_2> ali1234 104m
[19:39] <ali1234> _2: both bmp and png are compressed
[19:39] <jagggy> Another problem then... Anyone knows why banshee won't load my ipod? I mean, it sees it, but it keeps saying "loading IPOD"
[19:40] <_2> ali1234 ;/
[19:40] <mandrig> jagggy: Have you tried Rhythmbox?
[19:40] <jbuncher> Archonian:  No problem, good luck!
[19:40] <ldlework> Is anyone familiar with networking in Ubuntu?
[19:40] <mandrig> jagggy: Rhythmbox loads devices fairly well...
[19:40] <jagggy> mandrig, it says the music is on my ipod, but when I check my ipod, it hasn't gotten any songs (that's rhytmebox)
[19:41] <mgolisch> it probably tries to allocate so much memory that the kernel couldnt statisfy that in time, thus calling the oomk routine or something
[19:41] <cousteau> just found an option on Synaptic to make a list of installed packages, but is it possible to "markauto" those that have been automatically installed?
[19:41] <drash> jagggy: have you tried opening the file in question in your favorite editor (you'll need sudo privs to make changes) and checking the format ? Looks like a simple syntax error you should be able to fix
[19:41] <bdubnc> Hey everyone, I am having difficulties on a howto on howtoforge concerning high availability using Ubuntu 8.04.  I have followed this article:  http://www.howtoforge.net/set-up-a-loadbalanced-ha-apache-cluster-ubuntu8.04.  The problem comes when I attempt to add 443 to the mix to forward traffic.  The problem is that when I do a ipvsadm -L -n on the load balancers it shows what the howto says except for 443, it is falling back to 127.0.0.1.  Also, there is
[19:41] <bdubnc> no weight for both servers, just one on port 80, this needs to be on both servers.  If there is a better howto, let me know.  thanks!
[19:41] <^hashbang^> blutrille: and after that last step you do: http://pastebin.com/d599acc6b
[19:41] <FloodBot1> bdubnc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <canhnm> Anybody have ATI HD Radeon 3200 ?
[19:41] <ali1234> _2: a 104mb png file is would be huge
[19:41] <DasEi> ﻿ubottu: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod,  jagggy
[19:41] <vigo> sheena1: I fiuond a forum page that has a load of data on Video issues,,,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683,,but I think is a simpler than that,,,let me look some more.
[19:42] <jacksonhyde> canhnm: I got a X1600 running on a ubuntu virtual machine on my mac?
[19:42] <canhnm> I can't install driver for ATI HD Radeon 3200 in ubuntu 8.10 64 bit, anybody help me, please???
[19:42] <_2> ali1234 yeah it would be about the same size as a 4m jpg file.
[19:42] <mgolisch> _2: probaly the programm still access the data for the first png thus its not swapped out, or you set some strange swapiness value or something and thats why it doesnt swap
[19:42] <ali1234> _2: without compression it would be about 5000x5000
[19:43] <vigo> sheena1: That page says all down it, Please Reboot, so I am guessing that is the solution.
[19:43] <_2> mgolisch http://pastebin.com/f759f37c3 <<< tested swappiness == -1 32000 1
[19:43] <canhnm> I can't install driver for ATI HD Radeon 3200 in ubuntu 8.10 64 bit, anybody help me, please???
[19:43] <_2> ali1234 so. what's your point ?
[19:43] <DasEi> canhnm: prop. drivers from ati are hard with that, try vesa or free radeon driver , xorg7.4. is the issue there
[19:44] <ali1234> _2: when you load a 100mb png into an image editor it will be significantly larger in memory than on disk due to being compressed
[19:44] <|newbie|> i have a problem on disk recognition
[19:44] <FD_F> clear
[19:44] <_2> ali1234 http://pastebin.com/f759f37c3 <<<
[19:44] <ali1234> _2: and of course both the compressed and uncompressed versions may be stored in memory at the same time
[19:44] <|newbie|> ubuntu was installed as /dev/sda3
[19:44] <_2> ali1234 and ?
[19:44] <|newbie|> but my disk is IDE
[19:44] <mgolisch> _2: i still think its a problem of allocation that much space at once, the kernel probably cant statisfy that and thats why the oomk routine is called, get more ram srsly
[19:44] <ldlework> Hi, I have a dell studio 15 with the broadcom wireless adapter. The networking works just great except that every few seconds ago I will massive lag spikes and then it will return to normal. There are no processes to be seen with Top that are causing this so I'm really confused. I know that Vista had a problem where the adapter would constantly try to queue all the networks in the area and that would cause a similar problem.
[19:45] <|newbie|> and should be /dev/hda3
[19:45] <blutrille> ^hashbang^:  sudo mkisofs -r -V "$IMAGE_NAME" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o ../ubuntu-remix.iso
[19:45] <canhnm> DasEi: You mean that I have to uninstall all graphic driver ,etc. fglrx. and install vesa ?
[19:45] <ali1234> _2: and so your image editor may be attempting to allocate more than 1.5GB of memory in the time between the last two lines of your log
[19:45] <_2> mgolisch nope.  did this many times.  something is malconfigured or broken,  it's not using swap correctly.
[19:45] <^hashbang^> blutrille: and that's not working?
[19:45] <jacksonhyde> hey guys - whats the best file system for Windows XP?
[19:45] <DasEi> canhnm: fglry should work, no I mean the propitary drives from ati_homepage for linux
[19:45] <isase> jackson: ntfs
[19:46] <jacksonhyde> cheers!
[19:46] <DasEi> canhnm: fglrx*^
[19:46] <FD_F> hello i have in alsamixer  on view all only master & capture how i can extend it?, thanks
[19:46] <_2> ali1234 nope.   i can load the first one in less than 400m so the second should fit in less than 1g   theory fails.
[19:46] <canhnm> DasEi: With fglrx my resolution it's good but when I view video it's not good
[19:46] <jagggy> I love you guys, my ipod works, thnx!
[19:46] <_2> ali1234 it's just not using the swap space correctly.
[19:46] <canhnm> The images not smooth
[19:47] <DasEi> canhnm: did you change your xorg.conf ?
[19:47] <blutrille> ^hashbang^: im sure its alot more that im not understanding the line than it is that the line doesnt work
[19:47] <mgolisch> FD_F: select the real alsa device
[19:47] <canhnm> yes, I did.
[19:47] <DasEi> nice,  jagggy
[19:47] <ali1234> _2: by that argument you should be able to load the second image without using swap at all since you have around 400mb ram free too
[19:47] <ali1234> _2: so you may as well say it's not using ram correctly either
[19:47] <canhnm> DasEi: I changed fglrx in section in xorg.conf
[19:47] <FD_F> mgolisch: where ?
[19:47] <_2> ali1234 wrong.
[19:47] <DasEi> canhnm: could you paste it ?
[19:48] <blutrille> ^hashbang^: the "$IMAGE_NAME" is a wild card that i can name anything i want i suppose?
[19:48] <_2> ali1234 350m + 350m != 350m   learn to add...
[19:48] <stefg> |newbie|: don't worry. ubuntu uses libata, that means that alle disks are handled as scsi drives (sda). Everything goes as planned
[19:48] <FD_F> mgolisch: when i push tab i only move between the views
[19:48] <ali1234> _2: right before it crashes: Memory Used/Total Percent: 28/502 MB (5.5%)
[19:48] <ali1234> _2: 502-28 > 400mb
[19:49] <vigo> Were there a bunch of updates today?
[19:49] <|newbie|> stefg: but don't start
[19:49] <|newbie|> stefg: kernel panic cause that
[19:49] <mgolisch> FD_F: use alsamixer -c 0, otherwise it will only show that pulseaudio redirect virtual device
[19:49] <stefg> |newbie|: what happens?
[19:49] <_2> ali1234 the 20m used is after it crashed.
[19:49] <canhnm> DasEi : Section "Device"
[19:49] <canhnm> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[19:49] <canhnm> 	Driver	"fglrx"
[19:49] <canhnm> EndSection
[19:49] <FloodBot1> canhnm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <FD_F> mgolisch: thanks :) l
[19:50] <ldlework> Hi, I have a dell studio 15 with the broadcom wireless adapter. The networking works just great except that every few seconds ago I will massive lag spikes and then it will return to normal. There are no processes to be seen with Top that are causing this so I'm really confused. I know that Vista had a problem where the adapter would constantly try to queue all the networks in the area and that would cause a similar problem.
[19:50] <stefg> |newbie|: boot to reovery mode and watch what the last message is before the kernel panics
[19:50] <|newbie|> stefg: ok
[19:50] <_2> ali1234 the ***crashed! indicator is just marking that it had already crashed and i ended the loop
[19:50] <TopKatz> hello
[19:50] <TopKatz> I just installed apache, however Im unclear on how to give myself permissions for the /var/www folder
[19:51] <canhnm> DasEi : http://paste.ubuntu.com/116170/ here it's my xorg.conf
[19:51] <TopKatz> right now my user cant do anything in there
[19:51] <kavity> .htaccess files.
[19:51] <kavity> I believe.
[19:51] <TopKatz> me?
[19:51] <blutrille>  ^hashbang^: the "$IMAGE_NAME" is a wild card that i can name anything i want i suppose?
[19:51] <kavity> Yeah.
[19:51] <TopKatz> no
[19:51] <TopKatz> its a permissions thing
[19:51] <TopKatz> like its set to root
[19:51] <oCean_> TopKatz: what do you mean? You want to move/copy files into the /var/www ?
[19:51] <TopKatz> and I need to get into a group that owns it
[19:51] <isase> TopKatz: you have to change the permissions as root, use sudo chown
[19:51] <TopKatz> yes
[19:51] <Slart> TopKatz: I don't think you're supposed to do your webstuff there.. iirc you're supposed to create a new configuration with a new folder or something.. have you read the apache docs?
[19:51] <TopKatz> use svn
[19:51] <mgolisch> TopKatz: its owned by www-data usualy on debian systems
[19:52] <TopKatz> all that
[19:52] <FloodBot1> TopKatz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:52] <^hashbang^> bluetrille: yes... you would place say mycd.iso as the name for $IMAGE_NAME
[19:52] <isase> chown to www-data, then change the permissions accordingly
[19:52] <ali1234> _2: and what happens if you try to open the second image first?
[19:52] <canhnm> DasEi : http://paste.ubuntu.com/116170/ here it's my xorg.conf
[19:52] <TopKatz> mgolisch - so how do I get into that group?
[19:52] <^hashbang^> bluetrille: "$THINGS_LIKE_THIS" are often just a place older or example
[19:52] <_2> ali1234 i have several images (scaned from printer) which image and what order doesn't matter.
[19:53] <_2> ali1234 same results for all of them.
[19:53] <canhnm> DasEi : Everytime when I try to use ati driver, after install and reboot the monitor is black
[19:53] <oCean_> TopKatz: moving and copying files into /var/www use "sudo"
[19:53] <Aggrav8d> hi, #ubuntu.  Where would I go to ask for help in de-zombifying my XP machine?
[19:53] <Slart> Aggrav8d: ##windows perhaps
[19:54] <Slart> !windows | Aggrav8d
[19:54] <canhnm> DasEi : The same problem with EnvyNG
[19:54] <^hashbang^> canham: try adding this: export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 to ~/.gnomerc fixed my issue =)
[19:54] <Aggrav8d> Slart - thanks.
[19:54] <TopKatz> oCean_ that wont help when using svn
[19:54] <TopKatz> my user should be in the group that owns the folder
[19:55] <oCean_> TopKatz: if that is what you want, use usermod command:
[19:55] <_2> ali1234 anyway i'll use debian to do this, ubuntu is too much trouble right now.   thanks for the feedback.
[19:55] <mandrig> why does the windows channel have 2 #'s in the name...?
[19:55] <blutrille> ^hashbang^:ok i will try this ... i appologies for being a noob ;) ... im hoping that this is not alwasy the case
[19:55] <ali1234> _2: what's the exact error message from kolorpaint?
[19:55] <oCean_> TopKatz: to change primary group use "usermod -g" , to add user to other groups use "usermod -G"
[19:55] <DasEi> canhnm: envyng tries to install prop.driver, that won't work, also your monitor section looks a little scary to me; sure the bus identifier of pci for the card is right ? did you install xorg-driver-fglrx  ?
[19:55] <_2> mandrig two hash marks indicate a non-official channel.
[19:56] <^hashbang^> bletrille: no don't be sorry. your just going threw the process of learning =) we all have to =)
[19:56] <mandrig> _2: got it, thanks
[19:56] <_2> ali1234 no error message at all. just closes the window
[19:56] <canhnm> DesEi : yes, I installed xorg-driver-fglrx
[19:56] <_2> mandrig for more info visit http://www.freenode.org
[19:57] <_2> or is it dot net ?
[19:57] <ali1234> _2: so there's an error on dmesg?
[19:57] <vjr> hi. is everyone equally befuddled by the firefox problem in ubuntu?
[19:57] <vjr> ubuntu intepid i mean
[19:57] <^hashbang^> vjr: what problem?
[19:57] <Oni> What can I do on Ubuntu that I can't do on OpenSolaris?
[19:57] <canhnm> DasEi : My video card in intergrated with mobo
[19:57] <^hashbang^> vjr: what problem?
[19:58] <_2> ali1234 no error message   except in the console if i happen to have a non xorg tty in focus
[19:58] <stefg> Oni: watch TV ... have commodity hardware running...
[19:58] <vjr> ^hashbang^: lockups fading in and out. Flash seems to be involved.
[19:58] <^hashbang^> Oni: hmm, what do you mean?
[19:58] <devil> hello
[19:58] <Oni> They are programs, not the distro itself
[19:58] <mgolisch> no they are drivers in the kernel
[19:58] <^hashbang^> vjr: hmm, not sure man.. I don't have any of those issus... srry
[19:58] <mgolisch> which osol lacks
[19:58] <stefg> !pm > |newbie|
[19:58] <mgolisch> it has quite lame hardware support compared to linux
[19:59] <devil> hey guys i'm having problems installing seamonkey
[19:59] <devil> :(
[19:59] <|newbie|> stefg: ok
[19:59] <mgolisch> but on the other hand osol has zfs, so its quite awesome in my opinion
[19:59] <mgolisch> :)
[19:59] <vjr> I'm on 64 bit but I understand 32 bit has problems as well. Kubuntu seems better behaved.
[19:59] <stefg> |newbie|: so wjat hardware do you have ?
[19:59] <|newbie|> IDE
[19:59] <canhnm> DasEi : When I type fglrxinfo the error message is http://paste.ubuntu.com/116173/
[19:59] <|newbie|> |newbie|: IDE and SATA
[19:59] <^hashbang^> vjr: I've been using both 32bit and 64bit 8.04, 8.10, and now 9.04 and I don't have issues with firefox or flash...
[20:00] <DasEi> canhnm: I used a 9600 once and now find two different infos about 9200; on saying fglry does work, other say not; maybe try vesa, too : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI,   or think of 8.04, it's less hasasle with that
[20:00] <|newbie|> stefg: but Ubuntu is on IDE
[20:00] <|newbie|> stefg: and Debian too
[20:00] <stefg> |newbie|: are you on Live CD right now?
[20:00] <|newbie|> stefg: No
[20:00] <|newbie|> stefg: Gentoo
[20:00] <vjr> ^hashbang^: using Kubuntu?
[20:01] <^hashbang^> vjr: using ubuntu.. 64 and 32bit
[20:01] <cratel> how do I find which dev library has a specific file? Right now I'm looking for curl.h
[20:01] <|newbie|> stefg: i am trying to install linux-image via chroot
[20:01] <vjr> frustrating problem. Been living with it for months..
[20:01] <devil> /home/devil/Desktop/seamonkey-installer/seamonkey-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:01] <devil> can someone ehlep me with this
[20:01] <vjr> ^hashbang^: using pulseaudio?
[20:02] <devil> i cant install seamonkey
[20:02] <devil> :(
[20:02] <^hashbang^> vjr: naw, I don't use pulseaudio...
[20:02] <stefg> |newbie|: seems that you have a complex disk setup. you should rather try a standard desktop install from CD
[20:02] <canhnm> DasEi : With U 8.04 my resolution is still 800x600
[20:02] <_moro_bana_> how do i see if my wifi card is working?
[20:02] <^hashbang^> devil: explain a bit more please.
[20:02] <vjr> hmmm. I'm going to try taking it out. I like playing with it though.
[20:02] <|newbie|> stefg: i have installed....but kernel step failed
[20:02] <vjr> later!
[20:02] <^hashbang^> vjr: lol ok
[20:03] <^hashbang^> devil: that's doesn't explain anything... like what happens when you try to install it
[20:03] <stefg> |newbie|: probably the initrd doesn't contain the right modules, so it can't find the root fs
[20:03] <^hashbang^> devil: are you installing from source or from apt-get?
[20:04] <DasEi> canhnm:the prop. driver installs easily, for the monitor-section you can use display-config-gtk
[20:04] <|newbie|> stefg: man...Debian works fine on that disk
[20:04] <^hashbang^> devil: try doing sudo apt-get install seamonkey
[20:04] <devil> okie
[20:05] <canhnm> DasEi : Yes, but I want more performance because when I view video the image is not smooth
[20:05] <stefg> |newbie|: that still doesn't mean that you have a ubuntu initrd with all the right modules... there is some differences betwenn Debian and Ubuntu, especially in the startup procedure
[20:06] <stefg> !install | |newbie|
[20:06] <canhnm> DasEi : when I type "lspci -nn | grep VGA" in terminal, the result is "01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [1002:9610]"
[20:07] <DasEi> canhnm:so thats right, is it 32 or 64 bit ibex ?
[20:07] <canhnm> DasEi: It's 64 bit, sure.
[20:07] <starfruit> is 2.5" sata connector the same as the 5 inch? desktop/laptop
[20:08] <mandrig> anyone using 9.04 yet?
[20:08] <stefg> |newbie|: and with a quite old bios you might run into the problem that kernel or initrd are out of range for grub (beyond 137GB limit)
[20:08] <jeancalvin> is ubuntuforums down?
[20:08] <devil> wtf is rpm??
[20:08] <jeancalvin>  I need to be able to track when a website adds a phrase onto one of its pages, the home page. The thing is, the phrase (e.g. Hello World) is already on the page. So I need to be able to receive an alert when an ADDITIONAL copy of the phrase is added to the page. How can I do this?
[20:08] <_VIM_> they were down for me earlier as well jeancalvin
[20:08] <stefg> ... no scratch that... you have Sata on the machine... doesn't apply , |newbie|
[20:09] <mandrig> devil: rpm is a type of installable package, like .deb
[20:09] <linduxed> ive got a remote computer that i ssh-tunnel into. ive got to check if the drives work with IDE or SATA cable, is checking that possible?
[20:09] <fozzy_the_bear> Anyone got a sec to help me with DVD playback?  I think I've got all the bits I need from medibuntu, but when I try to play a DVD (with VLC or totem-xine) the window just closes immediately with no error message.
[20:09] <_VIM_> I just use google cache for the forums, since they're always down/extremely slow for me
[20:09] <|newbie|> stefg: my probleam is justa disk recognition
[20:09] <devil> is it better than source or bin
[20:09] <fozzy_the_bear> This is with Ibex.
[20:09] <DasEi> canhnm:just checked ati HP, its saying no supportz below radeon 9500
[20:10] <stefg> |newbie|: what does sudo fdisk -l give you? (use pastebin, see /topic)
[20:10] <mandrig> devil, source is generally 'better' as .rpm isn't native to ubuntu. If you can get a .deb though, as they install really easily.
[20:10] <canhnm> DasEi : In "System-Administrator-Hardware drivers" there is "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics drivers. But if I try to enable it and reboot after the monitor it's blank with black color
[20:10] <^hashbang^> linduxed: how old is this system?
[20:10] <devil> yeah .deb is simple....but binaries are complicated for me
[20:10] <canhnm> DasEi : You meant that my graphic card is not supported ?
[20:11] <devil> primarily cuz im new to linux
[20:11] <drash> fozzy_the_bear: try starting vlc and totem-xine from terminal, that should give you a look at errors ..
[20:11] <mandrig> devil: then stick to .deb installation files.
[20:11] <fozzy_the_bear> drash:  thanks.  Will try that.
[20:11] <gibson> I believe deluge is causing my wireless to cease working after some time, I have to disable/enable my wireless adapter to get connected again, any advice?
[20:11] <linduxed> ^hashbang^: old as **** would be an adequate description
[20:11] <devil> they arent easily available
[20:11] <devil> :(
[20:11] <csunew> happy TUE FEB the10
[20:11] <^hashbang^> linduxed: lol ok then I would bank money that it's an IDE drive
[20:11] <linduxed> ^hashbang^: so i kinda answered my own question
[20:12] <^hashbang^> linduxed: lol yeah!
[20:12] <mandrig> devil: what programs are you trying to install?
[20:12] <stefg> |newbie|: that's for gentoo...
[20:12] <^hashbang^> linduxed: =)
[20:12] <DasEi> canhnm: .. by the propitary ati-installer, right
[20:12] <devil> bison
[20:12] <canhnm> DasEi : You meant that my graphic card is not supported ?
[20:12] <devil> flex
[20:12] <mikebot> Does anyone know why the audio in ubuntu FREQUENTLY stops working and forces me to restart? I think it occurs after the screensaver comes on, but I'm not completely sure..
[20:12] <devil> dns sniffer
[20:12] <|newbie|> stefg: and Debian
[20:12] <devil> too many
[20:12] <linduxed> ^hashbang^: well i had to bounce that one to have myself answer it
[20:12] <FloodBot1> devil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <stefg> !uuid | |newbie|
[20:12] <^hashbang^> linduxed: I hear you... I do it alot =)
[20:13] <stefg> |newbie|: read the lomk about libata
[20:13] <daniela> dsughsdhtdf
[20:13] <stefg> |newbie|: read the link about libata
[20:13] <DasEi> canhnm: if you can find it unter sys/hardware, what about doing so, backup xorg.conf, then delete anything but the fglrx-section and reboot then ?
[20:13] <canhnm> DasEi : I tried to install the driver downloaded from amd website, but it did'nt work
[20:13] <_VIM_> has anyone tried gentoo as a guest on Ubuntu using Vbox?
[20:13] <mandrig> devil: you should be able to find a .rpm to .deb converter.
[20:14] <mikebot> Oh, and 'killall pulseaudio' doesn't fix anything (not sure if it's supposed to though).
[20:14] <devil> that exists?
[20:14] <jken146> mikebot: try sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[20:14] <mandrig> devil: I've heard of one, just i've never used one
[20:14] <devil> ah i'll get used to binaries soon
[20:14] <stefg> _VIM_: no... not now... they still haven't finished compiling... asl again in 2 weeks :-)
[20:14] <jken146> devil: it's called alien
[20:14] <DasEi> canhnm: is what I tell you 20minn ^ :D ;   but hte non-propitary (open-source) one might work
[20:14] <jken146> !alien
[20:14] <devil> hmm
[20:14] <devil> ubottu scares me
[20:15] <_VIM_> stefg: hah? what is asl?
[20:15] <canhnm> DasEi : Do I have to enable driver in Hardware drivers? an after reboot?
[20:15] <DasEi> devil: carefull with that, I#d prefer source
[20:15] <stefg> _VIM_: a typo'ed version of 'ask'
[20:15] <devil> i'll stick with source
[20:15] <fozzy_the_bear> drash:  Aha!  "x11 video output error: X11 request 140.19 failed with error code 11:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[20:15] <BTuser> #kismac
[20:15] <devil> a few more days and ill be used to it
[20:15] <fozzy_the_bear> Not really sure what that means.
[20:15] <_VIM_> stefg: hehe ok
[20:15] <mikebot> jken146: Thanks for the reply. DId the command, still no audio. (I'm testing audio with vlc and rhythmbox.)
[20:15] <jp_sf> jeancalvin, _VIM_ : seems ubuntuforum is up now
[20:15] <DasEi> canhnm: if you can find it unter sys/hardware, what about doing so, backup xorg.conf, then delete anything but the fglrx-section from xorg.conf and then and reboot then (or just restart X) ?
[20:15] <jeancalvin> jp_sf: thanks!!!
[20:16] <devil> and does anyone know how to fix the dead top console of firefox??
[20:16] <canhnm> yes
[20:16] <devil> reinstalling didnt help
[20:16] <fozzy_the_bear> This laptop was running Vista until I wiped the disk so I'm reasonably sure it's got sufficient resources.  :)
[20:16] <_VIM_> jp_sf: ok thanks, i never use the forums, the slowness turns me off, so I just use other methods to get answers usually, but thanks :)
[20:16] <jken146> mikebot: type alsamixer and unmute (m) and turn up (up arrow) the channels you need.  Then type sudo alsactl store
[20:16] <canhnm> DasEi : I try many way, but still error *_*
[20:16] <BTuser> #backtrack
[20:17] <kebomix> hello , is there is anyway to install ubuntu system only  , with out reinstalling programs and themes , ....etc ?
[20:17] <jken146> mikebot: press esc to exit alsamixer before storing
[20:17] <Frantic> guys, anyone knows a tool that can record audio and encode it to mp3 on the fly? :)
[20:17] <letalis> i came from the redhat/fedora world to ubuntu i wish i had tried debian a looong time ago
[20:17] <letalis> rpm hell was never fun or ex
[20:17] <letalis> citing.
[20:17] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:17] <_moro_bana_> !hostap
[20:17] <alexxandros> hello.i have a problem..can anyone help me?
[20:17] <jken146> !minimal | kebomix
[20:17] <fozzy_the_bear> frantic:  ffmpeg
[20:18] <mikebot> jken146: OK, did that. A few were muted but the master and surround were unmuted. I unmuted the rest.
[20:18] <Frantic> fozzy_the_bear: thx, checking man now
[20:18] <DasEi> canhnm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg          , then paste xorg.conf again
[20:18] <fru2212> what would i need to find out how far a projectile shot at an angle goes?
[20:18] <canhnm> DasEi : Wait for a moment ^^
[20:19] <mikebot> jken146: Still no audio. If I restart it will come back (this happens very often), so I'm not sure if that helps you diagnose.
[20:19] <Iain8> Was it something I said? :) I'm using Intrepid Ibix by the way.
[20:19] <letalis> Frantic:  audiacity
[20:19] <jken146> !sound
[20:19] <alexxandros> i've changed the cooling system of my graphic card (nvidia 9800gt), and i can't log in in ubuntu 8.10.the pc boots, loading ubuntu.but when is the time to get to the desktop , i have a black panel, while the pc is workin
[20:19] <fozzy_the_bear> frantic:  yes, audacity is easier.  Forgot about that one.
[20:20] <jken146> mikebot: I'm not at all an expert on sound.  See what ubottu said
[20:20] <letalis> yeah audacity is great for that purpose Frantic
[20:20] <mikebot> jken146: OK, thanks for the help.
[20:20] <canhnm> DasEI : Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/116175/
[20:20] <letalis> i use it to finalize recording work
[20:20] <Jewbacca> guys i had a download on m firefox, and my brother closed it and now i cant see it on the list, but i have a temp file i think this is the name openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso-{ee471433-2acb-470b-9502-d0c19f6a7d6e}.dtapart how do i open it
[20:21] <shingen> is using ext3 better for performance than using NTFS for a low end file server?
[20:21] <GaMbi_DK> argh crap.. forgot the command to mount all devices in fstab.. anyone knows?
[20:21] <alexxandros> ive changed the cooling system of my graphic card (nvidia 9800gt), and i can't log in in ubuntu 8.10.the pc boots, loading ubuntu.but when is the time to get to the desktop , i have a black panel, while the pc is workin
[20:21] <alexxandros> but if i log in by "recover mode" and do the "xfix safe mode:" then i can log in in ubuntu as usual (but the nvidia-driver is not used)
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> GaMbi_DK: sudo umount -a
[20:21] <GaMbi_DK> "mount -a" and some more I think
[20:21] <letalis> Jewbacca: try going back to suses site and starting the downlaod with dta again
[20:21] <jken146> yes.  You'll want the security features (file ownership and permissions) of a linux fs
[20:21] <stefg> shingen: ntfs is very slow on linix, since it's no native linux filesystem
[20:21] <letalis> it may pick up where it left off
[20:21] <_VIM_> !repeat | alexxandros
[20:22] <Jewbacca> letalis: i did and its just start all over again
[20:22] <letalis> is there a way to improt a downlaod into dta?
[20:22] <letalis> import
[20:22] <DasEi> canhnm: just alter the driver section : http://paste.ubuntu.com/116176/
[20:22] <letalis> i think there is
[20:22] <letalis> i cant remember
[20:23] <Frantic> fozzy_the_bear: how do I use ffmpeg to record from dsp1? :)
[20:23] <letalis> Frantic: what are you actually trying to do?
[20:24] <letalis> convert one format to another?
[20:24] <fozzy_the_bear> I'd listen to the other guy and use audacity.  It's all point and click
[20:24] <stefg> letalis: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/wget-resume-broken-download.html ...
[20:24] <Frantic> I'm trying to record form my microphone :)
[20:24] <bazyl> hi everybody ;)
[20:24] <^hashbang^> hi bazly
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> !hi | bazyl
[20:24] <Frantic> and convert it on the fly to some encoding other than wav, so it doens't take up so much space
[20:24] <bazyl> ;)
[20:24] <letalis> with ffmpeg thats pretty easy ffmpeg -i file convertedfile.ext
[20:24] <deany> Im installing xubuntu-desktop after removing ubuntu-desktop, why is wantin to install a hellofalot of gnome packages??
[20:24] <canhnm> DasEi : I've just altered the seciont "device", and now I must reboot my comp ?
[20:24] <jp_sf> _VIM_ you network connection is slow do you use firefox ? did you try to speed it up ?
[20:25] <sahak> I would like to be able to install Ubuntu 9.04 into a file on my current Ubuntu 8.10 installation. I don't want to repartition my hard drive for Ubuntu 9.04. Basically I want Wubi functionality, but I don't have Windows. Is it possible to do Wubi under Linux?
[20:25] <Frantic> letalis: ok, but how do I take input form my mic? :)
[20:25] <letalis> so long as ffmpeg has all the codecs necessary compiled into it that usually works.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> deany: firefox INSISTS on having some gnome deps for some unexplicable reason
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> deany: try opera
[20:25] <DasEi> canhnm: save xorg, then : ctrl+alt+backspace (logs you off, too)
[20:25] <Jewbacca> guys i had a download on m firefox, and my brother closed it and now i cant see it on the list, but i have a temp file i think this is the name openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso-{ee471433-2acb-470b-9502-d0c19f6a7d6e}.dtapart how do i open it
[20:25] <stefg> sahak: you want a virtual machine ...
[20:25] <_VIM_> jp_sf: Slow? I have comcast 25 mb/s download , 3 mb/s upload, I do use firefox though
[20:25] <deany> how do i stop it installin firefox then, as part of the xubuntu-desktop
[20:25] <letalis> Frantic: i usually use rdour for actual imput recording
[20:25] <letalis> input
[20:25] <letalis> ardour
[20:25] <stefg> !virtualization | sahak
[20:25] <^hashbang^> Jewbacca: try re-downloading it..
[20:25] <canhnm> DasEi : Thanks!!!, I'll try it and come back, may be^ ^
[20:25] <Frantic> ardour? :)
[20:26] <letalis> audacity will do it as well
[20:26] <Jewbacca> ^hashbang^: it just download it all over again
[20:26] <Jewbacca> ^hashbang^: i want to resume it
[20:26] <sahak> stefg: not really, I need it to run on my hardware. I don't want virtual machine. I need to check how my hardware works.
[20:26] <DasEi> canhnm: else run cmd again
[20:26] <stefg> sahak: i recommend virtualbox for starters
[20:26] <bazyl> my DVD works fine under windows, under ubuntu i have lots of I/O errors, any idea?
[20:26] <Frantic> letalis: but I actually want to record a lenghty file, several days :)
[20:26] <^hashbang^> Jewbacca: well if you don't see it on the list of downloads, then there is no way to resume it
[20:26] <letalis> ardour is a multi track recording suite geared towards music professionals
[20:26] <sahak> stefg: I want to be able to run it not in a virtual machine.
[20:26] <Georg> hello
[20:26] <stefg> sahak: you could use a loop-file...
[20:26] <fader> sahak: if it's just for testing, you could boot off of the CD and try it out that way
[20:26] <Jewbacca> ^hashbang^: but i have a 4gb file on my computer, there must be a way
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> bazyl: is it an Ubuntu DVD?
[20:26] <fozzy_the_bear> yikes, I think I just roached my Xconfig.  Getting DVD playback to work is proving to be a supreme hassle.  Sigh...
[20:27] <bazyl> ActionParsnip: no
[20:27] <Georg> how do you install tar.gz files in ubuntu ?
[20:27] <Georg> im kinda new
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> bazyl: what sort of DVD is it?
[20:27] <jp_sf> _VIM_: ok, now as you stated that ubuntuforum is slow for you I was thinking maybe it was your connection or I would have suggested to change the http.pipeline options in Firefox
[20:27] <bazyl> ActionParsnip: any kind
[20:27] <^hashbang^> Jewbacca: not that I know of
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Georg: tar zxvf <tar file name>
[20:27] <DasEi> ﻿ ubottu: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first),Georg
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Georg: whats the tar for?
[20:27] <steven__> I need help
[20:27] <sahak> fader: I know, but burning new CDs periodically can get very tiring. It would be very convenient to have just a boot entry in my grub menu, that would boot directly into that loop-mounted filesystem.
[20:28] <steven__> I have a logitech webcam which works only with cheese
[20:28] <_VIM_> jp_sf: i might try the http.pipeline trick, what is yours set at?
[20:28] <scarra3> Hey well a little while ago I had Ubuntu on this laptop but i got tired of it and reinstalled vista ow and I was dual booting vista and ubuntu at the time well I just now noticed that partition never went away so I decided that I want to  install Fedora but I have no clue on how to get rid of the partition left from Ubuntu
[20:28] <Georg> ActionParsnip, rarbsd-3.8.0.tar.gz
[20:28] <Archonian> how do i know what filesystem i need to create on my harddrive if i want to install ubuntu on a comp using a core 2 duo processor, 64-bit ver of ubuntu? there are a lot of different filesystems in the list
[20:28] <steven__> I need help geting it to broadcast
[20:28] <bazyl> ActionParsnip: under windows the same CD or DVD reads ok, under Ubuntu drops I/O error :(
[20:28] <stefg> sahak: but i think the easiest way would be just to use some usb stick... with some grub hacking you can boot itfrom your harddrive
[20:28] <DasEi> Archonian: ext3 ist most common
[20:28] <mandrig> Archonian: ext3
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Georg: do you want a rar file handler?
[20:29] <Georg> yes
[20:29] <letalis> Frantic: if youre just trying to record your voice quickly use audacity, if you need to do professional work, id look into ardour
[20:29] <Georg> ActionParsnip, yeah i need that
[20:29] <scarra3> Anyone have a clue?
[20:29] <^hashbang^> Georg: try
[20:29] <fozzy_the_bear> In case anyone is interested, I just solved it.
[20:29] <Archonian> DasEi, mandrig: OK
[20:29] <^hashbang^> Georg: try http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
[20:29] <Frantic> letalis: thx, but I need something different :)
[20:29] <jp_sf> _VIM_: change in about:config network.http.pipelining to true and the network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to 8
[20:29] <fozzy_the_bear> Added this to the Device section of xorg.conf
[20:29] <Frantic> letalis: but I actually want to record a lenghty file, several days :)
[20:29] <^hashbang^> Georg: works great =)
[20:30] <fozzy_the_bear> Option   "AccelMethod" "EXA"
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Georg: sudo apt-get install unrar ; sudo apt-get install rar
[20:30] <_VIM_> jp_sf: ok ty, ill let you know if its better :)
[20:30] <Georg> why both of them ActionParsnip  ?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Georg: then file roller will be able to access them like zip file
[20:30] <steven__> is there a way to get my webcam to broadcast on stickam ?
[20:30] <stefg> sahak: i haven't burned install CDs for ages... unetbootin and the builtin usb-creator in intrepid are your friend
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Georg: means you can create them too
[20:30] <letalis> Frantic: im assuming you need to monitor something with a mic?
[20:30] <Georg> ok
[20:30] <Oni> Does Ubuntu have ANPT like Windows 7 does?
[20:30] <DasEi> Georg: unp is also nice
[20:31] <Georg> ok ty
[20:31] <blizzle> Oni: ANPT?
[20:31] <Oni> Advanced Nigger Protection Technology
[20:31] <Oni> With Windows 7, niggers will no longer be able to steal your personal information. As part of this new technology Windows 7 now includes a reading test in order to be able to use the computer. Niggers can't read, of course, and they will fail the test and not be able to login keeping your data secure.
[20:31] <FloodBot2> Oni: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <Frantic> letalis: yep
[20:31] <estevam>  The best tutorial Zend Framework -> http://estevamzf.comoj.com/
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Georg: its hugely rare to need to use tar.gz files in ubuntu
[20:31] <estevam>  The best tutorial Zend Framework -> http://estevamzf.comoj.com/
[20:31] <blizzle> Oni: Go somewhere else to troll. Kthx.
[20:31] <scarra3> Hey well a little while ago I had Ubuntu on this laptop but i got tired of it and reinstalled vista ow and I was dual booting vista and ubuntu at the time well I just now noticed that partition never went away so I decided that I want to  install Fedora but I have no clue on how to get rid of the partition left from Ubuntu
[20:31] <Oni> :(
[20:32] <drash> scarra3: one way would be booting from the ubuntu live cd and start "system > partition editor" to manipulate your partitions
[20:32] <deany> what is the command for apt to HOLD a package
[20:32] <Oni> scarra3 is a troll
[20:32] <Oni> his name is ben irl
[20:32] <Oni> he goes my school
[20:32] <scarra3> Um no
[20:32] <Oni> ya
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Oni: keep it civil
[20:32] <Oni> dont hide it ben
[20:32] <canhnm> DasEi : It's still have errro, the error message is " Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode" and I have to restore xorg.conf to default *_*
[20:32]  * letalis wishes he had ops right now
[20:32] <wunnymush_> how can i see my dvd's in ubuntu?
[20:33] <Oni> no
[20:33] <scarra3> Ok then anyways im installing Fedora because I had trouble with ubuntu it was over heating my computer
[20:33] <letalis> lol
[20:33] <Oni> What are the advantages of Ubuntu over other Lunix's
[20:33]  * jp_sf any OPS around ?
[20:33] <blizzle> wunnymush_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:33] <carpeliam|pidgin> accidentally removed xp from grub. how do i add a windows entry to grub?
[20:33] <wunnymush_> thanks, blizzle
[20:33] <DasEi> canhnm: I'm little overasked then, the upper 9500 I got to run in ibex, too, but for below I#m only sure for hardy, next try will be vesa instaed of fglerx then
[20:33] <scarra3> Would Gparted work?
[20:34] <drash> scarra3: sure
[20:34] <Frantic> carpeliam|pidgin: http://pastie.org/384299
[20:34] <sahak> stefg: unetbootin creates a livecd right? What if I want to install that liveCD? I basically want to be able to install Ubuntu into a loop-mounted file. I know that it can be easily done in Windows by using wubi.
[20:34] <canhnm> DasEi : I'll try vesa =,=
[20:35] <racecar56> ok i have an external cd drive for my server but how do i install ubuntu on it??
[20:35] <Frantic> carpeliam|pidgin: btw that goes in /boot/grub/menu.lst but you have to change the partition :)
[20:35] <_VIM_> jp_sf: that firefox trick seems to be helping thanks :)  if i put it more than 8 would it be even better?
[20:35] <G-Bleezy> carpeliam|pidgin: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:35] <blizzle> Oni: The advantages are three fold. One, Ubuntu is highly focussed on the desktop user. 2) Ubuntu has a healthy community. 3) Ubuntu will always be free. Oh, and 4) Ubuntu release predictably every 6 months. (And you can easily upgrade versions).
[20:35] <carpeliam|pidgin> Frantic: yep, the part i'm getting stuck on is (hd0,0). windows is on /dev/sdb5, how do i know which that goes on?
[20:36] <racecar56> dang gotta restart
[20:36] <figueiredo> ubuntu is great system
[20:36] <Frantic> carpeliam|pidgin: I'm not sure, I hope someone else can help you on this one, my best guess would be 1,5 :)
[20:36] <stefg> sahak: that can be done in ubuntu, too... it's not just that easy and requires manual setup. It would be easier to use a 4 Gig usb drive instaed of a loop file... just make some custom entries in grubs menu.lst and boot the kernel and initrd off the usb drive
[20:36] <jp_sf> _VIM_: with the speed of your connection I would say yes it is supposed to make multiple request and not waiting, the problem is that sometimes some http webserver don't support it, but I'm running fine since a few months
[20:36] <G-Bleezy> carpeliam|pidgin: what is the output when you type:  fdisk -l
[20:36] <G-Bleezy> thats a little 'L' not a 1 :)
[20:37] <SB6789> hi all.  completely new to this and i could use some help if there are any takers?
[20:37] <G-Bleezy> SB6789: google ftw :)
[20:37] <_VIM_> jp_sf: ok i'll keep raising it slowly and see if it help or makes things worse
[20:37] <jp_sf> !ask | SB6789
[20:37] <sahak> stefg: ok, thanks.
[20:37] <carpeliam|pidgin> G-Bleezy: http://pastie.org/384302 /dev/sdb5 is the windows partition
[20:38] <jp_sf> _VIM_ mine is set to 12
[20:38] <racecar56> ok i have an external cd drive for my server but how do i install ubuntu on it??
[20:38] <racecar56> i have a ubuntu server 8.10 disk
[20:38] <^hashbang^> racecaar56: if your bios supports booting from USB , just reboot your server
[20:39] <blizzle> !tell SB6789 about ask
[20:39] <^hashbang^> racecaar56: you should get a boot option like F9, F10 or something during post boot, which you can press to boot from USB is it's supported
[20:39] <deany> ActionParsnip, so even if I install xubuntu from scratch, it`ll put a ton of gnome packages on just because of firefox?
[20:39] <Feleo> LOL
[20:40] <deany> sounds a little silly to me.. is the point of xubuntiu to be xfce...
[20:40] <AJC_Z0> What's the easy was to replace sun-java6-jre  6-10-0ubuntu2 with 6-7-0ubuntu2?
[20:40] <wunnymush_> somebody who knows about dualbooting?
[20:40] <Feleo> hey
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> deany: yep, sucks doesnt it
[20:40] <blizzle> deany, Firefox is default in Xfce.
[20:40] <carpeliam|pidgin> G-Bleezy: does rootnoverify (hd1,6) sound about right?
[20:40] <G-Bleezy> carpeliam|pidgin: ya im trying to figure that out..
[20:40] <KyleK> hdb7?
[20:40] <SB6789> what is ask?
[20:40] <G-Bleezy> carpeliam|pidgin: you could try it
[20:40] <blizzle> deany, Well, at least Xubuntu, anyways. Midori is Xfce's nominated browser.
[20:41] <G-Bleezy> carpeliam|pidgin: so your xp is on your 5th partition on your first drive?
[20:41] <fozzy_the_bear> thanks everyone.  Off to watch the latest BSG episode on my shiny new Ibex install.  :)
[20:41] <NfNitLoop> I'm using the 8.04-2 live CD to repartition a disk.
[20:41] <NfNitLoop> It has nearly completed, but resize2fs complains, saying:
[20:41] <G-Bleezy> or 5th partition on your second drive?
[20:41] <Family> Could someone help me install the broadcom wireless drivers in ubuntu??
[20:41] <NfNitLoop> Please run 'e2fsck -f /dev/sda5' first.
[20:41] <NfNitLoop> I manually ran that, it completed without errors.
[20:41] <SB6789> i am having trouble getting a webcam to work with an HP laptop - ricoh version.  any assistance?
[20:41] <NfNitLoop> but resize2fs still complains.
[20:41] <KyleK> carpeliam|pidgin: if that doesn't work, abuse the tab completion from grub :D
[20:41] <NfNitLoop> anyone had this issue?
[20:42] <blizzle> Family, sudo apt-get install ndis-wrapper
[20:42] <^hashbang^> racecaar56: serial cable? if not... hmm, don't think you can install it
[20:42] <stefg> !webcam | SB6789
[20:42] <ParhelicTriangle> isn't midori gtk too?
[20:42] <jando> hello, can someone help me with the speed of my ubuntu??
[20:42] <^hashbang^> wb Jack_Sparrow
[20:42] <carpeliam|pidgin> G-Bleezy: you can see in the pastie that it's on a LBA partition so it's actually kind of on the first logical partition. (i think)
[20:42] <blizzle> ParhelicTriangle, It is. Xfce is GTk based, as is Gnome.
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> deany: theres firepup which is 32bit and doesnt have all the extra fluff, or you can use opera or kazehakase
[20:42] <KyleK> NfNitLoop: did the fsck complain about the partitione being mounted?
[20:42] <IntuitiveNipple> SB6789, Which driver are you using, uvcvideo or r5u870 ?
[20:42] <stefg> jando: speed of what? loading?
[20:42] <racecar56> ok i have an external cd drive for my server but how do i install ubuntu on it?? it dosent have a monitor or a keyboard, all it has is 2 HD's and a external cd-rw drive
[20:42] <ParhelicTriangle> blizzle: thx for clearing that up :)
[20:42] <carpeliam|pidgin> KyleK: grub has auto-complete? is that in terminal? how's that work
[20:42] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[20:43] <G-Bleezy> lol at the auto-explanation
[20:43] <jando> nope, the speed when running apps and so on, it used to be quicker than now
[20:43] <^hashbang^> racecar56: you will need a monitor and a keyboard...
[20:43] <racecar56> lol
[20:43] <letalis> //quit
[20:43] <racecar56> dang too bad
[20:43] <stefg> jando: what hardware do you have ?
[20:43] <KyleK> carpeliam|pidgin: well i mean if you try the lets say XP option, and it doesn't work, so you restart, select XP and instead of enter button, press e I think
[20:43] <SB6789> hi intuitive.  i am not 100% sure in all honesty!
[20:43] <^hashbang^> racecar56: most OS installs other than an automated kickstart install require a monitor and keyboard
[20:43] <G-Bleezy> carpeliam|pidgin: i'd try  root (hd0,5)
[20:43] <racecar56> how would i get a monitor working on a server?
[20:43] <jando> im trying to say that it worked fine and now it runs everything slower
[20:43] <G-Bleezy> that's first disk 5th partition
[20:44] <racecar56> a keyboard would be easy to do
[20:44] <^hashbang^> racecar56: plug one in and reboot the server
[20:44] <NfNitLoop> KyleK: nope... the partition is not mounted.
[20:44] <G-Bleezy> guess i could look at what my grub.lst says
[20:44] <blizzle> racecar56, ssh and vnc is also possible if you have another system you can log in from, though I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do?
[20:44] <wunnymush_> is it possible to include ubuntu in boot.ini in windows?
[20:44] <jp_sf> racecar56: it usually have a vga port no ? what kind of server is it ?
[20:44] <blizzle> wunnymush_, It is. See wubi.
[20:44] <blizzle> !wubi
[20:44] <^hashbang^> blizzle: install ubuntu from a cdrom without a keyboard or monitor
[20:44] <IntuitiveNipple> SB6789: Some HP models have a Ricoh camera. In a terminal use the command "lspci -nn" and look for the Ricoh device and tell me the [vendor:product] ID that will be shown at the end of the line
[20:44] <stefg> wunnymush_: yes, but you would be better off using grub
[20:45] <Jack_Sparrow> jando What have you installed since it was running fast.  In particular, what things from outside supported repos or from source
[20:45] <KyleK> hahahaha
[20:45] <SB6789> the webcam is listed as being: ID (05ca:1810
[20:45] <wunnymush_> ok
[20:45] <blizzle> ^hashbang^, Ah. Now that's going to prove a little tricky :)
[20:45] <KyleK> <3 hp laptops, my webcam works in windows but I have lots of skype problems with ubuntu
[20:45] <mkatz_> hello
[20:45] <KyleK> err webcam works in linux, NOT windows
[20:45] <Family> Excuse me I have ndiswrapper and the .inf and .sys files, but I need instructions from here please
[20:45] <Jack_Sparrow> wunnymush_ best to avoid wubi and use grub as part of a regular install
[20:45] <mkatz_> is there a trick to getting 8.1 to save teh nvidia x server settings?
[20:45] <jando> hmmm, i installed compiz but actually im not running it
[20:45] <IntuitiveNipple> SB6789: thanks... let me check, I've just installed a new hard disk so all my notes are on a disconnected disk
[20:45] <G-Bleezy> mkatz_: mine just saved them automatically
[20:46] <jando> i also installed google earth and some apps. like the gimp
[20:46] <^hashbang^> bizzle: yea that's what I told him =) now if hey had a serial cable setup to a console server then it might be possible =)
[20:46] <G-Bleezy> or like...i installed and didn't need to change anything
[20:46] <mkatz_> Im getting a UNable to create new X config backup error.  Then when I login I have to redo my settings
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Family: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[20:46] <mkatz_> this is a fresh install
[20:46] <blizzle> ^hashbang^, If you can remove the hd and place in another system, you might be able to install Ubuntu ok.
[20:46] <wunnymush_> but the case is that i want to install windows on fresh install, but without having to reinstall ubuntu
[20:46] <G-Bleezy> mkatz_: what settings did you change?
[20:46] <stefg> mkatz_: run gksudo nvidia-settings
[20:46] <^hashbang^> blizzle: true... then put that drive back into the server =)
[20:47] <blizzle> wunnymush_, You'd want to repair Grub, in that case, post-Windows install.
[20:47] <IntuitiveNipple> SB6789: Yes, that ID is supported by the r5u870 driver, which I just happen to maintain in my Ubuntu PPA...
[20:47] <carpeliam|pidgin> G-Bleezy and KyleK thanks :) here goes nothing, i'll be back if it doesn't work..
[20:47] <stefg> !gub | wunnymush_
[20:47] <SB6789> aha! :)  i think i might have got that faar
[20:47] <stefg> !grub | wunnymush_
[20:47] <^hashbang^> blizzle: more work than it's worth I think .... much eaiser to put a monitor and keyboard on the server lol
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jando sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:47] <mkatz_> G-Bleezy - multi monitor
[20:47] <blizzle> ^hashbang^, Your call :)
[20:47] <SB6789> i think i have that as a zip file and have unzipped it
[20:47] <mkatz_> stefg - thanks
[20:47] <SB6789> let me check
[20:47] <G-Bleezy> mkatz_ and it doesn't save huh
[20:47] <^hashbang^> blizzle: looks like he left...
[20:48] <wunnymush_> ok, thankx
[20:48] <IntuitiveNipple> SB6789: https://launchpad.net/~intuitivenipple/+archive/ppa?field.name_filter=r5u870&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=any
[20:48] <mkatz_> nice!
[20:48] <SB6789> yes, i do have it, but now i am unsure how to get it to work.  i followed a tutorial, but it didn't work
[20:49] <SB6789> ok, i have gone to that link IntuitiveNipple , what do i do now?
[20:49] <jando> what is this supposed to do? thx
[20:49] <IntuitiveNipple> SB6789: read the "Follow these instructions" link
[20:50] <oCean_> !who | jando
[20:50] <SB6789> ok, sorry, i didn't see that bit.  i will give it a go now.  thanks and i will let u know what happens!
[20:50] <adi1> hi all
[20:50] <G-Blunted> hi
[20:50] <^hashbang^> !hi adil
[20:51] <^hashbang^> !welcome adil
[20:51] <^hashbang^> !welcome | adil
[20:51] <IntuitiveNipple> SB6789: you might need to disable/remove the existing driver since they both think they are the only one to handle the device... If you have problems, shout
[20:51] <adi1> does anyone installed latest tilda 0.9.6 in hardy?
[20:51] <racecar56> ok i just got out a prehistoric keyboard and ill put that in my rather new pc, which has backwards compatibility and put my modern keyboard to my server
[20:51] <blizzle> ^hashbang^, Stop abusing the bot! :)
[20:51] <Iain8> \join
[20:51] <G-Blunted> lol
[20:51] <racecar56> lol
[20:51] <^hashbang^> blizzle: I wasn't tryin too.. couldn't remember the command
[20:52] <steven__> how do you get a logitech webcam to be able to broadcast like on stickam ???
[20:52]  * ^hashbang^ sad now
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> !botabuse | ^hashbang^
[20:52] <Archonian> when installing ubuntu is asks for a "mounting-point" (i think it's the correct translation) when i create a partition for it, how do i know what to choose?
[20:52] <adi1> hey guys what kind a tilda like do you use in hardy?
[20:52] <stefg> !mount | Archonian
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> adi1: tilda or yakuake
[20:53] <racecar56> lol my 'new' keyboard is really different
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !find tilda
[20:53] <racecar56> XD its so small
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !info tilda
[20:53] <figueiredo> hy, somewone wanna help me about racoon IPSEC?
[20:53] <adi1> im trying to install latest tilda from source
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[20:54] <adi1> actionparsnip | but i gives me this error: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[20:54] <mikeshollen> has anyone installed GFCE?
[20:54] <racecar56> how do i get a monitor on my server
[20:54] <adi1> where can i find the latest tilda 0.9.6.deb?
[20:55] <racecar56> it is a hp mediasmart ex475
[20:55] <rockenrola> hi, how do I check how much internet usage a process is using?
[20:55] <jp_sf> adil: on a side note the latest tilda is in aptitude
[20:55] <danzer> !help
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> adi1 YOu have to go find it yourself.. I linked what we have in supported repos
[20:55] <rene> hallo
[20:56] <jp_sf> rene: /join #ubuntu-nl
[20:56] <racecar56> !help | server
[20:56] <racecar56> !help server
[20:56] <racecar56> !server
[20:56] <racecar56> sorry i have to admit im a n00b
[20:57] <adi1> jp_sf | i think in aptitude is the 0.5 version.... im stuck with 0.6 version
[20:57] <racecar56> at the ubottu
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !info tilda
[20:57] <steve__> hello
[20:58] <wompy> Hi.I've got a "theme"-Problem. I installed the "oxygen"-theme with System->Settings->appearance (hope this is the right translation). I can change the theme without any problem but a few minutes later, it changes back to old theme without obvious reason. when i then try to start System->Settings->appearance it changes again back to oxygen-theme but then i've got some problems like "clicking" buttons or links in firefox
[20:58] <wompy> has anybody heard of this problem?
[20:58] <racecar56> ok i need help installing on my server, whoever wants to help pm me
[20:58] <jp_sf> adil:  aptitude show tilda Version: 0.09.6-1
[20:59] <nightrid3r> !ask | racecar56
[20:59]  * devil listens to ubottu
[20:59] <G-Blunted> !justask
[20:59] <jp_sf> adil: sourceforge don't mention a version more recent than that no
[20:59] <jp_sf> adil ?
[21:00] <racecar56> how do i get ubuntu server on my hp mediasmart ex475?
[21:00] <devil> !ubutto how to update seamonkey?
[21:00] <racecar56> LOL
[21:00] <G-Blunted> racecar56, just burn Ubuntu Server to a cd and boot it on your hp mediasmart
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !info seamonkey
[21:01] <TuxSympathiser> If I use modprobe -r e1000e do I have to use ifconfig eth0 down first?
[21:01] <jp_sf> racecar56: http://samuel.thollander.net/projects/linux-on-hp-ex470/
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> devil that is the latest in supported repos.  for newer you will need to build it yourself
[21:01] <devil> jack
[21:01] <devil> thats where im stuck
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: install it like any other linux, boot to the live cd
[21:01] <^hashbang^> TuzSympathiser: try downing the interface first then unload the driver
[21:01] <adi1> jp-sf | what do you mean for aptitude?
[21:01] <adi1> aptitude is synaptic?
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> devil Why, because you dont know how to compile etc?  you really sholdnt need a newer versions
[21:02] <devil> i get this when i try to build "./seamonkey-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:02] <devil> "
[21:02] <jp_sf> adil: in System > Administration > Synaptic Package manager yes
[21:02] <devil> i know how to build
[21:02] <devil> lol
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[21:02] <nDuff> adi1, aptitude is more longstanding than synaptic and has a textual (CLI/ncurses\) UI.
[21:02] <adi1> jp-sf| what repos should I make available to install it?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> devil: try: apt-file search libstdc++.so.5
[21:02] <pteague> how do i find out what has a lock on a particular file ?
[21:03] <jp_sf> adil: to check the version in type: aptitude show tilda
[21:03] <adi1> sp-sf im in hardy
[21:03] <devil> its not installed
[21:03] <devil> dang
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pteague If you are trying to install something.. synaptic, aptitude and apt-get.. only one open at a time
[21:03] <dmilad_> holla
[21:04] <devil> jack how to install the lib?
[21:04] <devil> i dont have a source for it
[21:04] <jp_sf> adil: ok then use a terminal
[21:04] <pteague> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is that i was trying to install a plugin in firefox... firefox crashed, window closed & now i have no idea how to release the lock in order to do anything else
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> devil You wont listen when we tell you to use the persons nick or when we tell you to not hit enter every other word.. sorry, I cant  help
[21:05] <Dartel> Hi all I am back
[21:05] <G-Blunted> yay! Dartel !
[21:05] <pteague> Jack_Sparrow: so i figured if i could find out what has a lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock i could kill that process
[21:05] <devil> i dont hit enter after every word
[21:06] <adi1> sp-sf this is why i came here...in terminal "./configure" give me this error: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> pteague YOu will end up killing filrefox from cli.. kill all perhaps
[21:06] <Dartel> How do I uninstall things.. Like say all the default games from the Intrepid install
[21:06] <pteague> Jack_Sparrow: um, that's just it... firefox process is *not* running
[21:07] <zsakr> how to install java?
[21:07] <zsakr> apt-get install sun-java6 ?
[21:07] <G-Blunted> Dartel, add/remove applications
[21:08] <pteague> zsakr: you need the jdk or just the jre ?  apt-get install sun-java6-jdk or sun-java6-jre should work
[21:08] <shingen> pteague: you could always remove ~/.mozilla
[21:08] <dmilad> perl bot1.pl
[21:08] <G-Blunted> adil: you gotta add some packages
[21:08] <adi1> zsakr | go to add/remove and install open jdk or java
[21:08] <G-Blunted> adi1, i think that is happening because you don't have the right packages for the compiler to compile
[21:08] <pteague> shingen: um, what does that have to do with the lock on apt ?
[21:08] <Dartel> TY
[21:08] <zsakr> zsakr> apt-get install sun-java6 ?
[21:08] <zsakr> this like that wont work?
[21:08] <shingen> pteague: nothing, guess I didn't read your entire issue :D
[21:08] <G-Blunted> adi1, you need like...glibc-devel package
[21:08] <G-Blunted> i think thats the one
[21:08] <^hashbang^> pteague: so firefox won't run?
[21:09] <pteague> shingen: firefox crashed while trying to install a plugin... & now apt is locked
[21:09] <_VIM_> zsakr: you need the 'jre' at the end of that
[21:09] <adi1> g-blunted | so is going to be a mess jsut to install lates tilda :)
[21:09] <^hashbang^> pteague: so apt-get is locked? were you installing this plugin via synaptic?
[21:09] <G-Blunted> naw not really
[21:09] <G-Blunted> just install the glibc packages
[21:09] <adi1> I will waity for a deb package
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[21:09] <_VIM_> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[21:09] <G-Blunted> and run ./configure again
[21:09] <pteague> ^hashbang^: no, via firefox
[21:09] <adi1> ok thanks
[21:09] <G-Blunted> or you can wait for a .deb :)
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> killall firefox
[21:10] <G-Blunted> but compiling stuff is like...hella 1337
[21:10] <adi1> :)
[21:10] <DeeDeeVee> Good day all
[21:10] <pteague> ps aux | grep firefox shows no firefox process running
[21:10] <G-Blunted> i actually havn't compiled anything on my install yet....i feel so noob
[21:10] <Dartel> Feel silly that I had not seen the add/remove before
[21:10] <G-Blunted> i wanna recompile my kernel some time...just for fun :p
[21:10] <_VIM_> G-Blunted: Gentoo user?
[21:10] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[21:10] <nightrid3r> G-Blunted: but compiling stuff might bork your box :(
[21:10] <^hashbang^> pteague: try for the heck of it restarting X
[21:10] <G-Blunted> what is Gentoo?
[21:10] <jp_sf> adil: I think the latest one is on a deb form already could you do a aptitude show tilda ?
[21:10] <^hashbang^> ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:11] <^hashbang^> G-Blunted: another linux distro
[21:11] <G-Blunted> nightrid3r, naw unless you really do something crazy i guess...
[21:11] <G-Blunted> naw this is my first linux install in like....10 years :p
[21:11] <DeeDeeVee> I have a wubi Question i wasnt able to esolve by googling for a while and wondering if someone here had used it / worked with it?
[21:11] <DeeDeeVee> *resolve
[21:11] <G-Blunted> Xubuntu 8.10 user til i die
[21:11] <devil> !ubottu does this command use nick
[21:11] <nightrid3r> G-Blunted: i manage to do it evry time :)
[21:11] <adi1> g-blunted | you mean compiling is bettter or worst?
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> DeeDeeVee Wont use it, wont recommend it, wont help if you have used it
[21:11] <G-Blunted> nightrid3r,  lol ya...compiling shit is hard for some reason....so many options all the time
[21:11] <G-Blunted> adi1, compiling is better if you do it right
[21:12] <G-Blunted> adi1, it is hard tho....i'll give ya that..
[21:12] <G-Blunted> sometimes
[21:12] <adi1> even for tilda?
[21:12] <jeancalvin> how can i send email via terminal/ command line?
[21:12] <G-Blunted> sometimes it's simple as 'make install' './configure' othertimes its good to set hella options and shit
[21:12] <adi1> a small app
[21:12] <G-Blunted> probably easy
[21:12] <jeancalvin> I do NOT need to read email. just need to send a few emails.
[21:12] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: mail -v user@hot.com -s"testing"
[21:12] <G-Blunted> i never heard of tilda...
[21:13] <adi1> terminal emulator
[21:13] <G-Blunted> but you should try i would think...just install the packages so your compiler can compile it
[21:13] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: do i need to setup password stuff?
[21:13] <MeVsTheVoices> tilde
[21:13] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: mail -v user@hot.com -s"testing" then enter, then hit .
[21:13] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: nope
[21:13] <G-Blunted> terminal emulator.....that's just like a terminal window isn't it?
[21:13] <adi1> tilda
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !info tilda
[21:13] <pteague> found the issue...  `ps aux | grep apt` ... had to kill 3 processes in the list... a gksu, the synaptic installer running as root, & another process that i don't remember now
[21:13] <jeancalvin> nope?, wow. i'll try now
[21:13] <G-Blunted> i don't get that
[21:13] <G-Blunted> with first person shooter console likeness??
[21:13] <MeVsTheVoices> Ooo, Tilda any goods?
[21:13] <adi1> gblunted  yes
[21:14] <G-Blunted> first person shooter console likeness....at a terminal window?
[21:14] <ParhelicTriangle> it pops out from the top
[21:14]  * jp_sf is copyrighting the fact that the latest version is in the repos
[21:14] <ParhelicTriangle> like quake console
[21:14] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Sexy
[21:14] <G-Blunted> should be a url for tilda in that !tilda help
[21:14] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: i need to download heirloom-mailx or mailutils, right? which of the 2?
[21:14] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: mailutils
[21:14] <adi1> g-blunted: i like it cause with F1 im able to show/hide terminal
[21:14] <Omoikane> Is there a way to extend my desktop to my 32" LCD tv via HDMI?
[21:14] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: sudo apt-get install mailutils
[21:15] <G-Blunted> hmm
[21:15] <G-Blunted> can't you just configure F1 to bring up a terminal window?
[21:15] <adi1> gblunted: im a copy/paste guy
[21:15] <adi1> :)
[21:15] <^hashbang^> Omoikane: what resolutions does your graphics card support?
[21:15] <^hashbang^> Omoikane: what resolutions does your TV support
[21:15] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: if you don't need to enter password info, then how will my ubuntu comp know what "from email address" to use?
[21:16] <theacolyte> How do you call up restricted drivers menu, if it's not next to your clock
[21:16] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: it uses the  the username sending the email as the from:
[21:16] <adi1> gblunted ; this is ok but sometimes I need to understand what some forums says and copy commands from browser and paste them to tilda
[21:16] <NfNitLoop> oh well, if anyone cares, I just did resize2fs -f to force it, and everything worked fine.  *shrug*
[21:17] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: so if your hostname is mybox and your username is me, then your from: line will be me@mybox
[21:17] <G-Blunted> ohh is Tilda an irc client?
[21:17] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: wow. a username but no email address. ISn't this a way then to send anonymous email?
[21:17] <adi1> gblunted: so i hide tilda for some 30 sec or so and than show it again paste the command and "enter"
[21:17] <adi1> :)
[21:17] <jken146> G-Blunted: Tilda is a drop-down terminal
[21:17] <jeancalvin> mail: invalid option -- v ^hashbang^
[21:17] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: I guess
[21:17] <G-Blunted> is that just a terminal with menus??
[21:17] <adi1> jken146: thanks
[21:17] <^hashbang^> mail -v
[21:18] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: mail -v not mail -- v
[21:18] <quentusrex> What does this error mean? and how to I fix it? "Ekiga got an invalid value for the GConf key "/apps/ekiga/general/gconf_test_age". "
[21:18] <user_> is there scroll button in ubuntu same as windwos ?
[21:18] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^:  I did have -v, as in ....    mail -v  mememe@gmail.com -s"testing"
[21:18] <theacolyte> Ah I found it, it's just labeled wrong
[21:18] <IrishDavid> hey, what's the easiest way to share a folder across a network between two ubuntu machines? (I want to mount the network folder)
[21:18] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: let me double check
[21:18] <theacolyte> So I'm trying to install the NVIDIA restricted drivers, and I click activate, it thinks for a second, then closes the window - and doesn't activate the driver
[21:19] <theacolyte> Any idears?
[21:19] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: thanks! (i'm getting used to typing in Shift6 because of your first letter) 8-)
[21:19] <foges> have you tried a restart?
[21:19] <G-Blunted> CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[21:19] <jp_sf> ^hashbang^, jeancalvin : to use mail command you will need a MTA
[21:19] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: lol I use the up key
[21:19] <user_> any help ?is there scroll button in ubuntu same as windwos ?
[21:19] <G-Blunted> user_, ya use your mouse
[21:19] <G-Blunted> or the pgup pgdw
[21:19] <jeancalvin> jp_sf: is there a simpler way of sending email via commandline/terminal?
[21:20] <^hashbang^> jp_sf: doh that's right ubuntu doesn't install one by default
[21:20] <user_> i use ut but nothing happend
[21:20] <jeancalvin> jp_sf: do you recommend that i get an MTA? What's an MTA? is it free?
[21:20] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: true.. so install postfix too =)
[21:20] <quentusrex> What does this error mean? and how to I fix it? "Ekiga got an invalid value for the GConf key "/apps/ekiga/general/gconf_test_age". "
[21:20] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: sudo apt-get install postfix
[21:20] <jillian> i'm using ubuntu 8.04. Do you recommend upgrading to 8.10?
[21:20] <jp_sf> jeancalvin: MTA Mail transfer agent it's basically a mail server to speak to other mail server
[21:20] <user_> i mean i need it to scroll down in window
[21:21] <Guest628> yes jillian
[21:21] <sgtryan> ubuntu blows
[21:21] <sgtryan> that is all
[21:21] <zsakr> im downloading ubunt 8.10 becouse i need backup my hardriv
[21:21] <user_> i dont know if you got my idea clear
[21:21] <zsakr> and my question is if i could get usb to put the file on the pen
[21:21] <zsakr> ????????
[21:21] <G-Blunted> quentusrex,  probably means your permissions aren't right
[21:21] <jeancalvin> jp_sf: what's the simplest way to send email via terminal? (I already have a Gmail account, if that makes any difference)
[21:21] <_VIM_> You can also do SHIFT + page up/down to scroll the terminal
[21:21] <jp_sf> jeancalvin: just to make sure what exactly is your need trying to acheive ?
[21:21] <quentusrex> G-Blunted: I want to remove gconf keys....
[21:21] <quentusrex> G-Blunted: But I can't find a way to dump the keys....
[21:21] <zsakr> Anyone?
[21:21] <hexmasta> zsakr?
[21:21] <nickrud_> quentusrex, right click the key and select unset
[21:21] <zsakr> im downloading ubunt 8.10 becouse i need backup my hardriv
[21:22] <zsakr> and my question is if i could get usb to put the file on the pen
[21:22] <jillian> what are the benefits of upgrading...i'm new to using ubuntu
[21:22] <quentusrex> nickrud_: I want to remove an entire tree...
[21:22] <jeancalvin> jp_sf:  my goal: send a few emails via terminal/commandline. I need to send some emails to myself when something on my computer triggers it.
[21:22] <quentusrex> nickrud_: and most of the unset commands don't remove the values....
[21:22] <nickrud_> quentusrex, gconftool --recursive-unset /path/to/folder/key
[21:22] <quentusrex> I have gconf-editor opened in root
[21:22] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: I just installed postfix, set it up as an internet mail server... did mail user@mydomain.com (example only) typed in a subject and bam... it sent me mail to my gmail account
[21:23] <Milkeh> why is it when I start ubuntu my window manager is compiz and not metacity when I changed it in compiz icon?
[21:23] <nickrud_> quentusrex, they revert to the schema values in /etc/gconf, irrc. And using gconf as root affects /root/.gconf
[21:23] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: during the postfix install it will prompt you to setup postfix, just pick internet host
[21:23] <jeancalvin> jp_sf: i'm using specto to change a web page for changes. with specto rc3.1, you can enter a command when specto finds a change to a page.
[21:23] <jp_sf> jeancalvin: ok, depends of the scale, usually in operations you will install Postfix or sendmail, for a very very basic usage I would use  msmtp
[21:23] <G-Blunted> quentusrex,  gconf-edit....you gotta remove them one at a time
[21:23] <jeancalvin> jp_sf: yes, this is for very very very very basic usage.
[21:23] <jeancalvin> should i download msmtp?
[21:23] <^hashbang^> jp_sf: postfix isn't that bloated...
[21:24] <Milkeh> how do I set metacity as my defalt window manager?
[21:24] <jeancalvin> i've already downloaded postfix, jp_sf
[21:24] <^hashbang^> jp_sf: plus the setup is very easy (for new users anyway)
[21:24] <jp_sf> jeancalvin: so if it is not a production site or anything like I would suggest msmtp
[21:24] <guntbert> ^hashbang^: are you sure you didn't create another open mail relay?
[21:24] <nickrud_> quentusrex, for example,  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  && killall gnome-panel will cause your panels to be reset to the defaults set in /etc/gconf
[21:24] <Omoikane> ^hashbang 1366X768 is the TV
[21:24] <^hashbang^> guntbert: yes.. i'm behind a firewall =0
[21:24] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: in postfix config, do i choose "internet site", "internet wih smarthost", "satellite system" or "no config"?
[21:25] <^hashbang^> Omoikane: ok cool, it should work then =)
[21:25] <kop_> so I dl to a .gvfs mount on a remote box on the lan from a bittorrent client and I have to keep the folder open as well as refresh the permissions to the target folder every hr or so and even then every 12 hrs or so the .gvfs mount disappears , the torrent client responds with destination folder does not exist and goes zombie . there's more but...
[21:25] <quentusrex> nickrud_: I need to remove the whole tree...
[21:25] <quentusrex> and the recursive-unset won't unset them all
[21:25] <guntbert> ^hashbang^: ok, but doesn't necessarely apply for jeancalvin as well, I'm afraid
[21:25] <jp_sf> ^hashbang^: I like postfix but... well I might think this is not for jeancalvin it is my opinion and not my employers opinion, all I wrote ...
[21:25] <Omoikane> ^hashbang I have it hooked up but not sure what to do. Do I require additional software to use HDMI?
[21:25] <quentusrex> and it won't delete them either.
[21:25] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: if you installed it via apt-get then the postfix installer would have asked you for the postfix setup type, there is no reason to exit the postfix mail.cf file by hand
[21:25] <guntbert> *but that
[21:26] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: i'm not editing it by hand.
[21:26] <^hashbang^> Omoikane: hmm, I wouldn't believe so... have you tried rebooting your system with the HDMI cable plugged in?
[21:26] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: there's a blue-red-grey config screen
[21:26] <jeancalvin> wanna see a screenshot?
[21:26] <Omoikane> ^hashbang yes
[21:26] <Omoikane> let me try again
[21:26] <^hashbang^> jeanvalvin: blue red and green?
[21:27] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^:  http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotsi4.png
[21:27] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: you want "internet site"
[21:27] <joe-mac> hello, am i correct to assume that --acls isn't working with tar on ubuntu becaue it was compiled without support?
[21:28] <figueiredo> someone help me about RACOON IPSEC?
[21:28] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: btw, why do you want to send email from the console?
[21:28] <guntbert> !ask | figueiredo
[21:28] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: yes, that's EXACTLY what i want to do
[21:28] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: ok but why?
[21:29] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: for scripting?
[21:29] <mylisto_> anyone have any idea how to record skype video?
[21:29] <mylisto_> ie...webcams?
[21:29] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: yes. need to get an alert when a webpage changes.... using it with http://specto.sourceforge.net/?go=download
[21:29] <nickrud_> quentusrex, that's what --recursive-unset does; however you may not see the change because if a default exists in /etc/gconf it will revert to that
[21:30] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: kk
[21:30] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: so you picked "internet site" right? and now the installer is finished?
[21:30] <nickrud_> quentusrex, http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806-6878/6jfpqt2sv?a=view gives a decent overview of gcong
[21:30] <nickrud_> *gconf
[21:31] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: if so, try `mail you@yourhot.com` and hit enter you could get a (CC) prompt, just hit enter, then type in your subject, then for the body of the message hit . and then enter again
[21:31] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: yes fininshed.
[21:31] <Omoikane_> ^hashbang^ my tv says mode not supported
[21:31] <sn00zer> Does anybody know how to start x11vnc if you aren't already logged into an X session but the graphical login is running?
[21:31] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: i need to get an email sent all in 1 line/command
[21:31] <nickrud_> quentusrex, install sabayon to manipulate the default settings
[21:31] <sn00zer> btw, I have ssh access
[21:31] <^hashbang^> jeanvalvin: try man mail
[21:32] <Omoikane_> ^hashbang^ does ubuntu support HDMI?
[21:32] <^hashbang^> jeanvalvin: or mail --usage
[21:32] <bove2> any ideas why each time I do "xrandr -o something", font sizes increase?
[21:32] <jimi_hendrix> can i access files on my windows partition and if so how
[21:32] <jeancalvin> jp_sf: tell me about mspmts. is it easy to work with?
[21:32] <Frozenball> bove2, you are answering your own question already
[21:33] <^hashbang^> Omoikane: HDMI is a video format, on a laptop it's a display output... so it's likely that the resolution on your laptop is greater than what your TV can support, in which case, decrease your laptop display resolution
[21:33] <nickrud_> quentusrex, for official gconf info, http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/
[21:33] <cdavis> how do you determine if I one is running intrepid or hardy?
[21:33] <joe-mac> lsb_release -rd
[21:33] <G-Blunted> jimi_hendrix, mount the partition
[21:33] <joe-mac> cd
[21:33] <nickrud_> cdavis,   lsb_release -a
[21:34] <jp_sf> jeancalvin: it consists of installing a package msmtp and then have a file name .msmtprc that does have the configuration that's it
[21:34] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: i keep hitting enter, but it won't send
[21:34] <cdavis> nickrud_ thanks
[21:34] <`Peter``> Can anyone help with troubleshooting a gigabit ethernet PCI card on Intrepid?
[21:34] <jp_sf> jeancalvin: http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/
[21:34] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: did you put in a . as the last line in the body of the message?
[21:34] <bove2> Frozenball: ? Why does that change text size?
[21:34] <`Peter``> It's recognised (if I click network manager it's shown) however it doesn't recognise any connections and ifconfig lists it as "FIBRE"
[21:34] <jeancalvin> ^hashbang^: now i did 8-)
[21:35] <`Peter``> *ethtool not ifconfig
[21:35] <`Peter``> and it also says the MAC is ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[21:35] <guntbert> !enter | `Peter``
[21:36] <ca_rlo> Hi all
[21:36] <ogre_> i have a chicony usb2.0 webcam. any ideas on setting it up?  cheese isnt pulling pulling any video for me. help is appreciated
[21:37] <ca_rlo> Have someway to see pictures attached in my e-mails on Evolution, at e-mail's body?
[21:38] <jeancalvin> i did not get any emails in my inboxes, ^hashbang^
[21:38] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: do a `tail /var/log/mail.log`
[21:38] <ahmed> heeeeeeeeeeey
[21:38] <ahmed> hello
[21:38] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: what does it should for your relay= line
[21:38] <ahmed> this is chat room ??
[21:39] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: what does it should = show
[21:39] <gwhyte> Good afternoon all
[21:39] <nickrud_> ahmed, support channel; chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:39] <theacolyte> Nice
[21:39] <ahmed> aha
[21:39] <xnox> Heya everyone! I put in proxy settings today to use uni proxy while at uni. Now I've removed the proxy settings from the Proxy preferences app (dunno what it really is found it with Gnome do ;-)). well everything is fine but apt-get update continues to try to use the proxy and I can't find where to turn it off. =( Can you please help me.
[21:39] <jeancalvin>  relay=g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[209.191.118.103]:25, delay=10, delays=1.4/0/8.8/0, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[209.191.118.103] refused to talk to me: 553 Mail from 216.18.24.174 not allowed
[21:39] <theacolyte> Just went from a base 8.10 install and updated it, and now I've lost my wireless adapter
[21:39] <ahmed> can u support me
[21:40] <ca_rlo> Have someway to see pictures attached in my e-mails on Evolution, at e-mail's body?
[21:40] <nickrud_> !ask | ahmed
[21:40] <ahmed> I can't use this OS
[21:40] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: hmm strange
[21:40] <bove2> anyone else know why "xrandr -o right" increases font size?
[21:40] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: yahoo doesn't like u
[21:40] <xnox> ahmed: define can't use, please
[21:40] <ahmed> aha thanks
[21:40] <G-Blunted> !xrandr
[21:41] <benkamin> hi, how do I extract multiple Tar archives at once?
[21:41] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: it could be because most mail system require a reverse DNS entry to exist before they will relay email
[21:41] <jeancalvin> oh
[21:42] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: you could try setting the relay option in /etc/postfix/main.cf to your ISP's mail host
[21:42] <ahmed> how can install Arabic language 2 my PC because I wanna write in Arabic
[21:42] <^hashbang^> jeancalvin: and then restart postfix and try sending the mail again
[21:42] <G-Blunted> bove2, just make sure font sizes set to same size on both screens
[21:42] <gwhyte> Looking for help with a basic linux file permission problem. My non-root user (smith) is a member of multiple groups (smith, specialgroup) but can't write to a ext3 folder that is 775 specialgroup.specialgroup. Does "smith" need to change his active group somehow or something to use his group permission to write to the dir?
[21:42] <nickrud_> benkamin, something like   for i in `ls *tar`; do tar xf i; done
[21:43] <deadbattery> this is kind of a unrelated question, but are there any scripts that will tell u the status of a apache web server? like you can post it in the forum and it tells u if server #1 or #2 is offline or online?
[21:43] <deadbattery> this is kind of a unrelated question, but are there any scripts that will tell u the status of a apache web server? like you can post it in the forum and it tells u if server #1 or #2 is offline or online?
[21:43] <guntbert> !ot | deadbattery
[21:44] <xnox> Can you please help me to turn of proxy? (apt uses one and fails)
[21:44] <^hashbang^> xnox: are you running apt from commandline?
[21:44] <ahmed> no result ok thanks all bye bye
[21:44] <xnox> ^hashbang^: yes. I do sudo apt-get update and it shows that it tries to connect to a proxy and fails to update any of the sources.
[21:44] <^hashbang^> xnox: if your using synaptic, go to settings -> Prefs-> network
[21:45] <^hashbang^> xnox: ok do an `env | grep http_proxy
[21:45] <^hashbang^> xnox: if you see it just run unset http_proxy
[21:45] <nickrud_> ahmed, system->admin->keyboard, layouts tab iirc
[21:45] <benkamin> nickrud: i guess it should be do tar xf $i? otherwise it doesn't work,
[21:45] <benkamin> but when i do with $i i get tar: filename: Not found in archive
[21:45] <benkamin> for each filename
[21:45] <nickrud_> benkamin, yeah, typo without a $
[21:46] <benkamin> but why do i get Not found in archive?
[21:46] <nickrud_> benkamin, not sure. I'm in a vm with no downloaded tars, a sec
[21:47] <xnox> ^hashbang^: thanks a lot! that help it was stuck in the env!
[21:47] <^hashbang^> xnon: np
[21:47] <^hashbang^> benkamin: are you tryin to untar a file?
[21:47] <benkamin> i do: for i in 'ls *.bz2'; do tar -xjvf $i; done
[21:47] <benkamin> and i get: tar: filename.tar.bz2: not found in archive - for any file in the dir
[21:48] <benkamin> i mean for each of the files in the dir
[21:48] <nickrud_> benkamin, works here; didn' bzip them though
[21:48] <benkamin> hm...
[21:49] <theacolyte> So apparently I can't install my NVIDIA drivers and now after updating to the latest, my BCM4312 stopped working
[21:49] <guntbert> benkamin: tar has a *lot* of options, try tar xjvf instead of tar -xjvf
[21:49] <racecar56> help! i got this weird error on booting ubuntu server
[21:49] <theacolyte> Seems like it should work according to the documentation
[21:49] <racecar56> i put my server's HD into my pc and booted ubuntu server off of the cd
[21:49] <racecar56> and it gives me this:
[21:49] <benkamin> tried tar xjvf -- same result
[21:50] <prince_jammys> benkamin: for i in *.bz2; tar xjvf "$i"; done
[21:50] <nickrud_> benkamin, bzips work too. Sure you're in the same dir
[21:50] <guntbert> !enter | racecar56
[21:50] <prince_jammys> benkamin: you had the wrong quotes, plus you don't need ls
[21:50] <Vadonon> yay for EAC in WINE \o/
[21:50] <prince_jammys> benkamin: forgot the 'do'
[21:50] <prince_jammys> benkamin: for i in *.bz2; do tar xjvf "$i"; done
[21:51] <^hashbang^> benkamin: I just made 3 tar.bz2 files and ran for i in `ls *.bz2`; do tar xjf $i; done and everyhing worked fine.
[21:51] <racecar56> ISOLINUX 3.63 Debian-2008-07-15 Copyright (C) 1994-2008 H. Peter Anvin isolinux: Disk error 10, AX = 4280, drive EF Boot failed" press a key to retry...
[21:51]  * nickrud_ always forgets that newer bashes figure out that *.bz2 is assumed to be a directory listing
[21:51] <prince_jammys> he had single quotes instead of ` `, but yeah, don't use ls
[21:51] <benkamin> trying...
[21:52] <racecar56> ...
[21:52] <racecar56> what am i to do
[21:52] <benkamin> ls
[21:52] <benkamin> sorry
[21:52] <prince_jammys> . ..
[21:52] <brianrgn> i keep reading that ubuntu depends on an internet connection very heavily... what if the computer i want to use has no connection?
[21:52] <racecar56> idk
[21:52] <racecar56> you'd be missing a lot
[21:52] <benkamin> SOLVED :-)
[21:52] <benkamin> this one worked: for i in `ls *.bz2`; do tar xjf $i; done
[21:52] <prince_jammys> great
[21:52] <Naisel> hi all
[21:53] <guntbert> nickrud_: what was that about bz2 in newer bashes?
[21:53] <racecar56> what am i to do? i dont know how to do this'
[21:53] <^hashbang^> benkamin: you could do a "for i in `find . -name \*.bz2`; do tar xjf $i; done" that should work fine =)
[21:53] <Naisel> Bram are you ther
[21:53] <prince_jammys> until you filenames have whitespace
[21:54] <benkamin> cool, thanks!
[21:54] <^hashbang^> prince_jammys: you have whitespace zip files?
[21:55] <vlan> hello all
[21:55] <nickrud_> guntbert, nah, the for i in *bz2 , I always forget I don't need the ls anymore
[21:55] <vlan> i get error : src/p_translate.c:314: warning: passing argument 2 of 'strmncpy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type
[21:55] <vlan> whern im trying to install psybnc
[21:55] <ANTRat> find -name "*.bz2" -exec tar xjf "{}" \;
[21:55] <guntbert> nickrud_: ah ok, misunderstood you :)
[21:55] <ANTRat> find . -name
[21:55] <nickrud_> ghahhahahahahg it's a quick scripting quide today
[21:55] <^hashbang^> ANTRat: yea that's how I do it... =)
[21:56] <vlan> i think one package missed but i dont know wich, if anyone can help me please
[21:56] <Naisel> vlan what is psybnc
[21:56] <^hashbang^> find . -type -f -size +2G -name \*.bz -exec rm -f {} \; I like that one too
[21:57] <G-Blunted> !psybnc
[21:57] <G-Blunted> psybnc is a bouncer
[21:57] <G-Blunted> for irc
[21:57] <brianrgn> so an internet connection is basically required for any serious use of ubuntu?
[21:57] <G-Blunted> brianrgn, it helps for sure
[21:57] <G-Blunted> brianrgn,  and yes....if you want to use it 'seriously' an internet connection would be good to have
[21:57] <bove2> despite your help, I really can't understand why screen fonts get bigger and bigger eachtime I do a xrandr command
[21:57] <G-Blunted> that goes for any operating system though
[21:58] <G-Blunted> bove2, change your screen to default DPI's
[21:58] <G-Blunted> bove2, has to do with the DPI
[21:59] <dianewny> hi
[21:59] <felixsulla> So, I installed a program through Synaptic. How do I know where it went? How do I get to it?
[21:59] <^hashbang^> hi
[21:59] <^hashbang^> felizsulla: what was the program
[22:00] <isase> felix: it'll be in /usr/bin, and should have a laucnher for it in the "applications" menu in the gnome panel
[22:00] <felixsulla> Kodos
[22:00] <dianewny> anyone have time for a couple of dumb questions?
[22:00] <G-Blunted> !justask
[22:01] <^hashbang^> go for it..
[22:01] <G-Blunted> all we're doing is answering dumb questions
[22:01] <G-Blunted> one more can't hurt too much :)
[22:01] <^hashbang^> lol G
[22:01] <felixsulla> Dumb is relative to knowledge :)
[22:01] <brianrgn> is there anyway around the connection requirments for things like ubuntu-restricted-extras??
[22:01] <^hashbang^> there is nothing dumb about a question =)
[22:01] <AMPws> Hi
[22:01] <G-Blunted> good call
[22:01] <felixsulla> Ok I think I know why it doesn't show up in Applications. It's just a python script ;)
[22:01] <G-Blunted> lol felix
[22:02] <AMPws> like to ask help for my first time using linux...
[22:02] <^hashbang^> yea felixsulla.... I just installed it to check it out..
[22:02] <^hashbang^> !justask | AMPws
[22:02] <G-Blunted> !justask | AMPws
[22:02] <G-Blunted> jynx
[22:02] <felixsulla> OK so here is a dumb question, can I MAKE a shortcut to it from Applications?
[22:02] <cphillips> does anyone know why some songs in amarok are grey instead of black?
[22:02] <dianewny> 1.5 g celeron 2g ram cpu is running 100% and way to lighten the load    ?
[22:02] <^hashbang^> lol G beat you to it
[22:02] <G-Blunted> ^hashbang^,  no you didn't
[22:02] <AMPws> got a backtrack version and need to change the mac address to conect the internet..
[22:02] <G-Blunted> felixsulla,  from applications?
[22:02] <^hashbang^> lol G-Blunted: yes... look above  your's
[22:03] <G-Blunted> AMPws: go to #remote-exploit <--- BackTrack channel
[22:03] <ikonia> apw: backtrack is not ubuntu
[22:03] <felixsulla> Yeah, a new link like other program would add.
[22:03]  * G-Blunted is helping people :)
[22:03] <stefg> dianewny: first thing willo be to figure out what's eating up the resources. look at the system monitor, sort by cpu time and look what's on top
[22:03] <AMPws> I'm sory, I'm tring to find, were is this..
[22:03] <dianewny> ok thanks
[22:03] <^hashbang^> me ^hashbang^ has been helping people all day =)
[22:03] <G-Blunted> AMPws: go to #remote-exploit <--- BackTrack channel
[22:03] <ikonia> AMPws: your currently in #ubuntu - for ubuntu support
[22:03]  * ^hashbang^ ^hashbang^ has been helping people all day =)
[22:04] <G-Blunted> he's gunna make me say it again...
[22:04] <G-Blunted> i can feel it
[22:04] <AMPws> where can I find BackTrack channel
[22:04] <G-Blunted> AMPws: go to #remote-exploit <--- BackTrack channel
[22:04] <ikonia> ^hashbang^: can we give the "/me" commands a break, you and G-Blunted are making more random noise than half the channel
[22:04] <G-Blunted> omg i knew it
[22:04] <prince_jammys> felixsulla: yes, you can. does the script have to run inside a terminal?
[22:04] <dianewny> my fourth day of using Ubuntu
[22:04] <prince_jammys> felixsulla: that is, does it print output to a terminal?
[22:04] <^hashbang^> ikonia: hmm, I did it 1 time... relax
[22:04] <brucealdridge> running jaunty, ran updated, rebooted, blank screen, can still login/ssh ... just no display.
[22:04] <ikonia> G-Blunted: you too please, calm down on the noise a bit, your doing great helping people, but a little random
[22:04] <ikonia> ^hashbang^: I'm asking nicely - your both making a lot of noise
[22:04] <ahmed> hey this is ubuntu channel??
[22:04] <felixsulla> prince_jammys hmm.. thats a good question. Let me run it.
[22:04] <ikonia> brucealdridge: join #ubuntu+1
[22:04] <ikonia> ahmed: it is
[22:05] <G-Blunted> ikonia, he asked about backtrack 3 times in a row....
[22:05] <brianrgn> is there any way to install programs that appear in "add/remove" without an internet connection to the linux computer? (_this_ computer clearly has internet connection)
[22:05] <ahmed> ok I have one ask
[22:05] <felixsulla> No its GUI alright.
[22:05] <ikonia> G-Blunted: I know - as I just said to ^hashbang^ your doing great helping - just keep the random comments/noise down please.
[22:05] <G-Blunted> kk sry np
[22:05] <stefg> ahmed: no this is #how-to-get rich-by-getting-one buck-for every-silly-question-asked
[22:05] <ikonia> appriciated
[22:05] <brucealdridge> ikonia: thanks
[22:05] <prince_jammys> felixsulla: then you can add it with the menu editor
[22:05] <^hashbang^> ikonia: how is 1 /me alot of noise...
[22:06] <ahmed> how can I install additional language??
[22:06] <brianrgn> ...
[22:07] <ahmed> I know but when I got the letter of the language I want where can I keep it??
[22:07] <felixsulla> Got it, OK. Ooo-rah right clicking..
[22:07] <ASrock> i need a remote desktop tool like logmein for ubuntu...any sugjestions/
[22:08] <stefg> ASrock: to connect from where? over what kind of line ?
[22:08] <ahmed> aha
[22:08] <ASrock> well i will be connecting from both a computer on the LAN and computers over the internet
[22:08] <^hashbang^> ASrock: how about VNC?
[22:09] <rww> !vnc | ASrock
[22:09] <stefg> ASrock: ubuntu has vino , a vnc-server. you'll need a vncviewer on the accessing machine
[22:09] <Cpudan80> stefg: vino probably wont work
[22:09] <Cpudan80> stefg: The way it is setup is very ... bad
[22:09] <Sarthor> i am wanat to setup up multip isps, getting here from http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html , how to define $IP1, $IF1 $IP2 etc etc. please need a hint.
[22:09] <stefg> ASrock: although i usually replace thet by x11vnc
[22:09] <ASrock> um...i dont follow...and is it possible to connect using a windows computer?
[22:10] <rww> ASrock: Yes, it is. Go read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH :)
[22:10] <Cpudan80> ASrock: yes, there are many VNC viewer things for windows
[22:10] <ASrock> how about tightvnc?
[22:10] <Cpudan80> any one of them will work, I like UltraVNC's viewer personalyl
[22:10] <G-Blunted> RealVNC
[22:11] <jp_sf> ah
[22:11] <jochenh> Hey! Can anyone please help me? My firefox shuts down directly!
[22:11] <Cpudan80> UltraVNC supports encryption (windows servers) so that's nice
[22:11] <G-Blunted> jochenh, after you do what
[22:11] <^hashbang^> jochenh: did you just finish installing a plugin?
[22:11] <jochenh> G-Blunted: after clicking on flash
[22:11] <G-Blunted> what flash?
[22:12] <ASrock> well for ultra vnc how do i go about installing it on the linux comp...is it in synaptic?
[22:12] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: yes I installed flash plugin 10 for 64bit
[22:12] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to solve ubuntu mic sound issues? Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[22:13] <jochenh> G-Blunted: adobe flash plugin 10 for 64bit
[22:13] <Sarthor> i want to setup up multip isps, getting help here from http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html , how to define $IP1, $IF1 $IP2 etc etc. please need a hint... CORRECTED AS MY KNOWLEDGE
[22:13] <boot_loop> how do I execute an executable file from the command line?
[22:13] <^hashbang^> jochenh: oh ok cool. So I take it if you go to youtube and click on a vid firefox will crash?
[22:13] <^hashbang^> boot_loop: ./filename
[22:13] <dianewny> funny now that I'm monitoring the CPU usage went down to 78%
[22:14] <boot_loop> hashbang: do I have to be in the directory of that file?
[22:14] <rww> boot_loop: ./filename if you're in the directory it's in. /path/to/file/filename if you're not.
[22:14] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: yes
[22:14] <^hashbang^> boot_loop: do a chmod +x filename to make sure you can excute it
[22:14] <dianewny> thanks
[22:14] <^hashbang^> hmm, not sure ...
[22:14] <boot_loop> it says "no such file or directory" but the file is right there
[22:15] <ASrock> stefg: i installed x11vnc what viewer should i install on the windows machine to control the ubuntu machine?
[22:15] <^hashbang^> boot_loop: not really you could do ./path/to/file
[22:15] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: I click on a flash vid or flash swf file
[22:15] <^hashbang^> boot_loop: or just /path/to/file without the . in front of /
[22:15] <nickrud_> ^hashbang^, not with the leading .
[22:15] <cphillips> amarok is insisting that my "collection folder" is my ipod, how can i change that to /home/Music?
[22:15] <^hashbang^> nickrud_: I corrected myself =)
[22:16] <hatter243> ASrock, UltraVNC is my preference, RealVNC is good as well...
[22:16] <nickrud_> ^hashbang^, dueling enter keys :)
[22:16] <^hashbang^> nickrud_: lol totally
[22:16] <ASrock> ok once i install that what will i need to do to connect?
[22:16] <ASrock> do i need to know my IP or what?
[22:16] <hatter243> ASrock, yes, you do need to know the IP of the machien you are attempting to connect to
[22:16] <G-Blunted> jochenh, edit your xorg.conf and comment out compistes
[22:16] <G-Blunted> that will fix your problem :)
[22:16] <ASrock> where do i configure x11vnc?
[22:17] <stefg> ASrock: make sure to uninstall vino then... two vnc-servers on the same machine usually do no good. There are several vncviewers for win available. try some, use the one you like best.
[22:17] <ASrock> stefg: where do i uninstal vino?
[22:17] <boot_loop> damnit, it keeps saying no such file or directory, but the file is there! lol
[22:17] <jochenh> G-Blunted: what are compistes? how do they look like? :)
[22:17] <stefg> ASrock: synaptic
[22:17] <rww> ASrock: For the *third* time, go read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC#x11vnc . And no, you don't need to uninstall vino first.
[22:17] <kansan> is there a way to 'name' certain gnome-terminal instances?  or should i be using screen?
[22:17] <stefg> !software | ASrock
[22:18] <nickrud_> kansan, you can, by creating profiles. But screen is probably simpler
[22:18] <benkamin> just FYI: the problem before with extracting multiple tars: the problem was that i used ' instead of ` - wrong apostrophe.
[22:18] <^hashbang^> benkamin: nice work
[22:19] <^hashbang^> benkamin: I always got messed up with those when reading some webpages online...
[22:19] <jochenh> G-Blunted: what should I delete exactly?
[22:20] <abbronzato> is the Philips PCVC680K WebCam supported?
[22:20] <G-Blunted> do you see anything in there that says 'composite' or somethin to do with that extension?
[22:21] <G-Blunted> i couldn't really find it in mine :p
[22:21] <abbronzato> here no luck for get it working
[22:21] <jascott> how can i get broadcom wifi working when all i have is a CDROM?
[22:21] <george> can python draw lines and circles andpolygons as per pset or line or draw which was BASIC commands??
[22:21] <^hashbang^> abbronzato: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=576433
[22:22] <jochenh> G-Blunted: http://pastebin.com/m53c38e68
[22:22] <boot_loop> oh I didn't have ia32-libs installed, so it didn't see the executable
[22:22] <^hashbang^> boot_loop: doh! good catch
[22:22] <nefrin> Hello all, I think I did something to my system to screw it up, but I can't figure it out. Details are here in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6705889#post6705889      basically, I get the GRUB Splash and then nothing
[22:23] <boot_loop> thanks for your help hashbang
[22:23] <abbronzato> ^hashbang^, i already see it, but was about the mic not the webcam
[22:23] <Sarthor> i want to setup up multip isps, getting help here from http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html , how to define $IP1, $IF1 $IP2 etc etc. please need a hint... CORRECTED AS MY KNOWLEDGE
[22:23] <^hashbang^> abbronzato: ah... hmm, good question... sorry
[22:23] <boot_loop> ls
[22:23] <trygg> How did I search for a package on apt-get?
[22:23] <G-Blunted> jochenh, hmm..okay i don't see so i got a different work around for you to try...
[22:24] <mo_bledhoz> tolong
[22:24] <george> nefrin i screwed up ubuntu by interrupting the shutdown screen. took 4 restarts and it started workin
[22:24] <nefrin> George --- I have gone through several reboots, just goes through the Splash and then hangs on a black screen with a cursor flashing
[22:24] <G-Blunted> jochenh, edit this file:  /usr/bin/firefox   <--and before the last line (which is launch line) add this without the quotes:  "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1"    Flash is conflicting with somethinn and this should turn it off
[22:25] <nefrin> George ---- plus the GRUB auto loader has stopped working, I have to manually choose my kernel each boot
[22:25] <^hashbang^> G-Blunted: couldn't you just place that in ~/.gnomerc
[22:25] <george> nef also when it prviously froze, control d made it go on..I no expert.
[22:25] <rww> trygg: apt-cache search packagename. Or, for more advanced / better searching, use aptitude search
[22:25] <stefg> nefrin: what happens if you try booting to recovery mode ?
[22:26] <nefrin> Stefg ---- full details are in the forum posting, but I get a lot of errors
[22:26] <Deamos> Anyone feeling like tackling some Samba in Naulitis problems? :)
[22:26] <nefrin> I have somehow screwed up my system, and I am not quite sure how it happened or how to fix it. Here's the layout:
[22:26] <nefrin> The GRUB Loader no longer counts down and auto boots, but takes me to the kernel screen so I have to choose which kernel.
[22:26] <nefrin> One I pick the kernel and continue loading, the Usplash booting screen displays just fine, then I get a black screen with a underscore cursor in the upper left hand corner. System will hang here forever, no GDM Login, keyboard is unresponsive except for holding down CTRL+ALT+DEL for several seconds, then it will reboot.
[22:26] <nefrin> The recent most kernel is 2.6.24-23-rt
[22:26] <FloodBot2> nefrin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:26] <nefrin> If I use the recovery mode kernel of the same type, I can resume normal boot and this is what I get:
[22:26] <jochenh> G-Blunted: okay done
[22:27] <G-Blunted> jochenh, restart firefox and see if it works
[22:27] <stefg> nefrin: seems your /boot/grub/menu.lst is gone or damaged. have you run sudo update-grub (and sudo update-initramfs -u just for good measure ) ?
[22:27] <G-Blunted> did you have to sudo to save that?
[22:27] <dopiwan> is there any software app similar to Ventrilo or Skype that is encrypted and can be hosted locally for free?
[22:27] <Sarthor> how to define $IP1=192.168.1.2
[22:28] <Deamos> Anyone wanna help me deal with Samba? :D
[22:28] <nefrin> stefg --- should I run it from LiveCD?
[22:28] <Zombie_Gaz> Trying to get ansi colours to show up properly in gnome-terminal. Anyone got any ideas?
[22:28] <G-Blunted> !justask | deamos
[22:28] <jochenh> G-Blunted: same error : http://pastebin.com/m27c945fc
[22:29] <stefg> nefrin: only if you chrooted to your installed system. but you should inspect /boot/grub/menu.lst on your installed system first. is it there? Does it look good ?
[22:29] <rww> Sarthor: $IP1, etc., on that page are just placeholders. You just substitute the real values for the placeholders in the command.
[22:29] <rww> Sarthor: It says that right there on the page.
[22:29] <Sarthor> rww, Ok.
[22:30] <Deamos> Ok, Trying to connect Using Nautilis to a network share via the Network Browser, It shows the workgroups but when I try to connect to the workgroup, it reports Unable to Mount Share.  I can connect by manually entering the IP address in the Network Browser Windows.
[22:30] <nefrin> stefg ---- that's the problem, I'm not sure how to get into my system because of the boot hang up after the splash
[22:30] <Zombie_Gaz> Trying to get ansi colours to show up properly in gnome-terminal. Do I need a certain font or to set my term? Anyone got any ideas?
[22:30] <G-Blunted> jochenh,  is that what happens when you view flash? or when you startup firefox?
[22:30] <dougofborg> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[22:30] <stefg> nefrin: are you on Live CD on the broken system ?
[22:30] <jochenh> G-Blunted: when I click on a flash video or a flash app
[22:31] <nefrin> stefg ----- currently I am on a secondary laptop, but I can be booted up into liveCD on the trouble system in a few seconds
[22:31] <stefg> nefrin: since you were messing with usplash you might have broken the initrd
[22:31] <G-Blunted> hmm..lemme see...
[22:32] <nefrin> stefg ---- yeah, that will teach me my lesson about customizing boot screens
[22:32] <^hashbang^> jochenh: in firefox in the url bar type about:flash and imagebin that
[22:32] <kbrosnan> ^hashbang^: about:flash is not a valid about: page
[22:32] <rww> ^hashbang^, jochenh: about:flash isn't a valid URL. Try about:plugins
[22:32] <Deamos> Guessing nobody has an idea on my Samba issue then :D
[22:32] <thomc> exit
[22:32] <^hashbang^> doh! yea sorry ment plugins
[22:33] <racecar56> what do i do about my computer refusing to boot into my server cd? i put my server's HD in my pc and then installed it 'on the pc' where-as it goes on ym server's HD instead
[22:33] <stefg> nefrin: OTOH...  all nerds had to break dozends of systems just to gain the experience they have now...
[22:34] <Rencx> how i can remove Folder where root is owner?
[22:34] <J6Dof> hi, when i update my package list iget this error : http://paste.org/index.php?id=5308 . wht is the problem ?
[22:34] <^hashbang^> Rencx: sudo rm -f foldername
[22:34] <nefrin> stefg ----- I know, seems like I intentionally break this system a few times a month just to figure it out
[22:34] <jochenh> G-Blunted: http://pastebin.com/m667e3de4
[22:34] <stefg> nefrin: ... the usual leraning curve
[22:34] <jochenh> G-Blunted: sry its german: Aktiviert=aktivated
[22:35] <jochenh> G-Blunted: let me knoe i there are words you have to know
[22:36] <Deamos> Ok, Trying to connect Using Nautilis to a network share via the Network Browser, It shows the workgroups but when I try to connect to the workgroup, it reports Unable to Mount Share.  I can connect by manually entering the IP address in the Network Browser Windows. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[22:36] <Rencx> ^hashbang^ cant
[22:36] <^hashbang^> jochenh: man that is strange. I'm using the same plugin and I don't get the firefox crash... tho I do now notice I also have     File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15
[22:36] <alaz> Deamos, samba share?
[22:37] <Deamos> yes
[22:37] <^hashbang^> Rencx: what error did you get?
[22:37] <J6Dof> anyone to help me whith this : http://paste.org/index.php?id=5308 ?
[22:37] <Deamos> It will not get past the Workgroup listing
[22:37] <Deamos> But will connect if I manually type in the address in the window ie: smb://192.168.1.x/
[22:37] <Rencx> ^hashbang^ in terminal none with Shift+Delete Premision Diend
[22:38] <^hashbang^> Deamons: did you run sudo apt-get update link the output mentions at the bottom?
[22:38] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: thats because you have the nswrapperplugin one
[22:38] <nefrin> stefg ---- Ok, I'm up in LiveCD, if I try to run sudo update-grub in a terminal, it tells me there is no GRUB directory found
[22:38] <phoenixz> Every reboot I have a process "socket" taking up +95% of my CPU resources. the parent process is cups, and I suspect this is a print job I once accidentally sent to a print which no longer exists. How can I remove this job?? I can not find it anywhere, and killing off cups every restart isnt a solution either :)
[22:38] <^hashbang^> Rencx: in a terminal do sudo su - and then cd to the file and try removing it that way
[22:38] <G-Blunted> jochenh, hmm...i don't know....you don't got the compiste extension...which is the cause of this problem 90% of the time...
[22:39] <^hashbang^> jochenh: yes, which is now making me wonder, which on the browser is really using =)
[22:39] <Deamos> yes I did. all packages are updated, hash
[22:39] <nickrud_> ^hashbang^, you should suggest sudo -i rather than sudo su - (same results, consistent with #ubuntu policy)
[22:39] <Zombie_Gaz> Trying to get ansi colours to show up properly in gnome-terminal. Do I need a certain font or to set my term to something different? Anyone got any ideas?
[22:39] <G-Blunted> jochenh, you could try uninstalling libflash-mozplugin and instead use flashplugin-nonfree
[22:39] <stefg> nefrin: be aware that your installed system isn't even mounted yet... where's your system installed ? (/dev/sda1?)
[22:39] <^hashbang^> nickrud_: ah ok cool, did not know that.. sorry
[22:40] <^hashbang^> nickrud_: I'm old school.. =)
[22:40] <isase> Hmm.
[22:40] <isase> I can't get samba to work.
[22:40] <jochenh> G-Blunted: I dont use the libflash-mozplugin.I use this one : http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[22:40] <nefrin> stefg ----- I've mounted my installed hard drive with the system (/media/disk) and am in the /boot/grub folder
[22:40] <Deamos> welcome to the boat, isase :)
[22:40] <isase> I installed all the necessary packages on two Ibex machines, they're on the same workgroup
[22:41] <isase> Daemos: LOL
[22:41] <aLeSD> hi what's the name of the flash plugin ?
[22:41] <isase> Yet they don't see each other's shared folders.
[22:41]  * Deamos feels a great need to stab Samba
[22:41] <jbuncher> Are there any kernel devs in here that could help me troubleshoot intel wireless connectivity?  Connecting to WPA Enterprise SSID Hidden with 2.6.24-23 always fails, but with 2.6.24-22 it always succeeds.  Bugreport and syslogs for failed and successful connection attempts are at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317976 .  Thanks for your time!
[22:41] <stefg> nefrin: is there a file menu.lst ?
[22:41] <alaz> Deamos, most of the time its login details thats the problem. samba is a shitty protocol
[22:41] <isase> I even turned off DHCP and assigned static IPs (which RUINED my nice little IP table)
[22:41] <solexious> Hello, my sound is only coming out as a crackly, works fine in windoes, can I reinstall sound on my system?
[22:41] <nefrin> stefg ---- I have a menu.lst and a menu.lst~ file both same file size and day time group in that folder
[22:41] <alaz> Deamos, is it a windows server that you are trying to access?
[22:41] <G-Blunted> jochenh,  i think i found it
[22:42] <Deamos> well, if it was login details it should be having an issue w/ Names to IPs
[22:42] <Deamos> Windows and Linux
[22:42] <stefg> nefrin: so that's /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst , right?
[22:42] <nefrin> stefg ---- that is correct
[22:42] <Coded_> I have a box thats running 8.10 that was set up without a wifi card and was using a crossover cable to get to the wan.  I took the wifi adapter out of the old machine and put it in the box im using now.  iwconfig picks it up but will not connect to my wep network (the command 'sudo iwconfig ath0 essid NetName key 12345678... && sudo dhclient ath0")
[22:42] <stefg> nefrin: so look what's in it
[22:42] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: rm: cannot remove `/home/user/Videos/BPI': Is a directory
[22:42] <jochenh> G-Blunted: that would be perfect
[22:42] <jp_sf> solexious: no need you could try to start alsamixer and pump up the volume
[22:42] <Coded_> I can get at it using the live cd though (what Im using now)
[22:43] <^hashbang^> Rencx: try rm -rf
[22:43] <G-Blunted> lol actually maybe not
[22:43] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: i crate folders throught kino in sudo mood
[22:43] <diginux> quick question, just upgraded to jaunty, ping can resolve ips, but ssh and firfox cannot, any suggestions?
[22:43] <G-Blunted> video/flv       Flash-Video     flv     Ja  <---this is Totem
[22:43] <Coded_> how can I get the packages I need and leave them on the partition for an "offline installation" ?
[22:43] <alaz> Coded_, what does your ifconfig print out?
[22:43] <G-Blunted> jochenh,  try uninstalling/disabling Totem
[22:44] <solexious> jp_sf, it is up, when muted no sound comes out, when not muted just some crackling comes out
[22:44] <Guest93484> hello
[22:44] <Guest93484> i have couple of questions regarding ubuntu
[22:44] <Coded_> alaz; "ifconfig ath0" shows the default mac / ipv6, but no ip or subnetting
[22:44] <isase> Bah, screw it. I'm just going to mount the shares using NFS. Samba blows.
[22:44] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: ty last one works.. what -rf do?
[22:44] <stefg> nefrin: do have network on the Live CD ?
[22:44] <nightrid3r> !ask | Guest93484
[22:44] <G-Blunted> jochenh, the flash plugin doesn't appear to be associated with .flv though, so i wouldn't think that would be a conflict...but maybe...
[22:44] <george> guest they jus want you to ask them..
[22:44] <nefrin> stefg -----I have wired network on Live CD
[22:45] <alaz> Coded_, and iwconfig?
[22:45] <jp_sf> solexious: could you try: alsamixer -Dhw
[22:45] <^hashbang^> Rencx: it mean to force and recursivly remove
[22:45] <jochenh> G-Blunted: i'll try
[22:45] <Guest93484> alright sorry :P
[22:45] <Guest93484> well
[22:45] <Guest93484> i have ubuntu on my dell mini
[22:45] <Guest93484> and everytime i try to install or update packages it keeps giving me errors
[22:45] <prince_jammys> Guest93484: all on one line
[22:45] <isase> xD
[22:45] <isase> What errors?
[22:45] <stefg> nefrin: so you might connect to this channel from the Live CD, too ... makes pasting to the pastebin easier
[22:45] <prince_jammys> Guest93484: otherwise your question gets chopped to bits and it's hard to read
[22:46] <Coded_> alaz: "sudo iwconfig" shows the essid, key (1234-1234-...) and security shows 'restricted' but I have tried setting that to open 'sudo iwconfig ath0 key open' and connecting but no response from the ap
[22:46] <jochenh> G-Blunted: same error...
[22:46] <Coded_> most of the stats: rx,tx ... are 0
[22:46] <G-Blunted> what did you do?
[22:46] <jochenh> G-Blunted: I disabled the totem plugin
[22:47] <Coded_> for some reason the gui apps seem to work but not from the cli
[22:47] <alaz> Coded_, so iwconfig ath0 shows that its connected to the wifi but theres no ip recieved?
[22:47] <G-Blunted> and restarted firefox and all that?
[22:47] <Coded_> alaz: i think it just shows the settings cause it shows "no associated"
[22:48] <Coded_> *not associated
[22:48] <jochenh> G-Blunted: it should be a Xserver problem
[22:48] <alaz> Coded_, it should be a pretty straigtforward thing to setup iwconfig. but remember that ifconfig also has to be setup in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:48] <anom01y> is there any way I can determine what is causing my X to crash.
[22:48] <alaz> anom01y, check /var/log/messages
[22:49] <G-Blunted> hmm, think so?
[22:49] <Coded_> alaz; I've done it before on 8.04 but I'm wondering if since there was no card in during install some necessary packages are not installed
[22:49] <jochenh> G-Blunted: yes because me-tv is crashing the same way
[22:49] <alaz> Coded_, what chipset does it use?
[22:49] <Coded_> i wanted to find a package cd so I could do an offline type of install
[22:50] <carpii> is there a vnc server i can run on ubuntu., that will let me connect from windows, using remote desktop?
[22:50] <nefrin2> stefg ---- this is nefrin up on LiveCD, never used paste bin before so not sure how, usually I just use the forums
[22:50] <Coded_> Atheros, its using the restricted driver in the driver manager
[22:50] <G-Blunted> me-tv?
[22:50] <stefg> nefrin2: look in /topic
[22:50] <G-Blunted> what is that?
[22:50] <stefg> !paste | nefrin
[22:50] <alaz> Coded_, if its atheros it should work out of the box i think. isnt it compiled straight into the kernel
[22:50] <M3TAPHYS1CS> hi guys im using a laptop with a rtl8187 driver which is having alot of problems with Ubuntu, ive read that ndiswrapper fixes this issue but ive had trouble following theguides and was wondering if anyone here who has experience would be willing to talk me thruough it
[22:50] <prince_jammys> anom01y: the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log might be of use
[22:50] <trygg> Anyone know what themes are used here? http://www.kimchikid.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/green-theme.jpg
[22:50] <^hashbang^> jochenh: have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#amd64andppc
[22:51] <jochenh> G-Blunted: "A digital television (DVB) viewer for GNOME"
[22:51] <Coded_> alaz; the driver seems to be there and working 'iwlist ath0 scan' gives an accurate reading for the area
[22:51] <G-Blunted> hmm...crashes the same way huh>?
[22:51] <nefrin2> stefg ---- duh, I'm an idiot... that being said, you want my whole menu.lst pasted?
[22:51] <rww> M3TAPHYS1CS: I have rtl8187 too, tried NDISwrapper, and it didn't really work well at all. I ended up switching to ethernet instead =/
[22:51] <M3TAPHYS1CS> rww: *supersadface*
[22:52] <stefg> nefrin2: yeah ... to pastebin.
[22:52] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: i'll try, thanks
[22:52] <sinmok> Hey everyone. Just a simple question. I' can browse my vista partition and view the files, folders ect. However for some reason XLXS extention files dont appear (office 07 excel documents). Is there anyway i can get it to appear?
[22:52] <Coded_> is there a package that would handle the wep protocol ?
[22:52] <nefrin2> stefg ----- http://paste.ubuntu.com/116222/
[22:52] <stefg> k
[22:52] <alaz> Coded_, networkmanager is a gui
[22:52] <rww> M3TAPHYS1CS: Yeah, I know. What problems are you having with the regular driver? Random disconnects?
[22:53] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: "Be aware that this is pre-release software and there could be bugs." hmm could be the bug
[22:53] <M3TAPHYS1CS> rww yes i was getting that but it evenutally prevented my from using the internet at all..i would connect fine but couldnt access firefox or irc..
[22:53] <^hashbang^> jochenh: lol yea
[22:53] <anom01y> I am looking for information on how to set up ubuntu to run multiple users properly.
[22:53] <Coded_> alaz; you know what I never tried getting at it from a term I just figured it wasn't installed cause it wasn't showing up on the taskbar
[22:53] <^hashbang^> jochenh: that what I find so odd. I have an nvidia quadro fx card, amd64 9.04 and flash working fine.
[22:54] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: so I should try the 32bit one
[22:54] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: how did you installed your flash version
[22:54] <anom01y> as it is now, running two users is very unstable. X crashes quite frequently and I am unable to isolate the problem
[22:54] <^hashbang^> jochenH: well, at this point I think anything is worth trying =)
[22:54] <rww> M3TAPHYS1CS: Yeah. That's caused by a bug that's logged in both Ubuntu and the Linux Kernel's bugtrackers. Hopefully one day someone will get around to fixing it :(
[22:54] <anom01y> I have had this issue for years now.
[22:54] <stefg> nefrin2: hmmm ... looks good so far. so open a terminal and run mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev
[22:54] <eighthour> is there a good program for ubuntu for recovering data from a cd that is scratched to hell....???....
[22:54] <alaz> Coded_, can install it with apt-get install networkmanager i reckon
[22:54] <stefg> nefrin2: sudo !
[22:55] <ryanprior> anom01y: Ubuntu is pre-configured to naturally and easily handle multiple users. Is there anything specific you'd like to ask questions about?
[22:55] <Coded_> alaz; with no network connection though?
[22:55] <Coded_> :)
[22:55] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: how did you installed flash on your pc?
[22:55] <M3TAPHYS1CS> rww: the sooner the better brother =( so that basically rules out all distros then?
[22:55] <G-Blunted> jochenh, try sudo apt-get remove flashplayer-mozilla | sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin   and see if the different flash player still crashes firefox....if it does you can assume it's more related to X than to flash/firefox
[22:55] <ryanprior> eighthour: ddrecover is a good utility for that.
[22:55] <rww> M3TAPHYS1CS: Yeah, all the ones I've tried have had the same problem.
[22:55] <alaz> Coded_,  probably not... it should be on the cd though.
[22:55] <eighthour> ryanprior, thanks....
[22:55] <nefrin2> stefg ---- entered the command in sudo, it just put me back to a command prompt
[22:55] <^hashbang^> jochenh: once sec let me find the url
[22:55] <anom01y> ryanprior, I have two users, one runs compiz fusion, the other does not. For some reason I can't keep both users open for longer than 1/2 hour without one of them crashing and returning me to the login screen.
[22:55] <alaz> you tried execing networkmanager from bash
[22:56] <stefg> nefrin2: so it worked ...
[22:56] <Coded_> alaz; not yet I assumed I didn't have it :P ill go try it now
[22:56] <ryanprior> anom01y: Do you mean that you're using the "Switch user" functionality?
[22:56] <nefrin2> stefg ---- assume so, no errors
[22:56] <stefg> nefrin, now sudo mount -t proc none /media/disk/proc
[22:57] <anom01y> ryanprior, yes
[22:57] <anom01y> ctrl alt f7 and f9
[22:57] <M3TAPHYS1CS> rww: thanks for the information..maybe ill wake up tomorrow and a new drivers been released ^_^
[22:57] <zmiq> hi, I have some trouble with xorg-intel driver, but found a patch that solves it. Can anyone tell me where to find instructions to apply the patch and recompile by miself?
[22:57] <nefrin2> stefg ----- same as before, went straight back to command line
[22:57] <Guest10071> I currently have a dell mini with ubuntu installed on it, I am not able to install any packages because of the errors i keep getting, and i am not able to install openoffice on my netbook either, does anyone know how to fix the errors that are coming up?
[22:57] <anom01y> but quite often I find that one of the sessions is no longer open and I always need to re-log in. I must do this 10 times a day.
[22:58] <sinmok> Hey everyone. Just a simple question. I' can browse my vista partition and view the files, folders ect. However for some reason XLXS extention files dont appear (office 07 excel documents). Is there anyway i can get it to appear?
[22:58] <stefg> nefrin2: taht's fine... we just mounted /dev and /proc to the installed system in preparation of a chroot (change root)
[22:58] <ryanprior> anom01y: I don't know much about how those feature work, unfortunately. Out of interest, have you tried the same thing with a different distro?
[22:59] <^hashbang^> jochenh: I can't find the url. I installed from the adobe labs site http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[22:59] <stefg> nefrin now 'cd /media/disk'  then 'chroot .'
[22:59] <rww> M3TAPHYS1CS: The bug report to keep an eye on is https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/182473 , by the way. There's something at the bottom of that about it maybe getting fixed soon, but it isn't the first time that's been said, so I'm not rolling out the parade yet. Hopefully, though :)
[22:59] <anom01y> yes I seem to get the same problem with debian
[22:59] <stefg> nefrin2: now 'cd /media/disk'  then 'sudo chroot .'
[22:59] <anom01y> I have had this issue for over a year now.
[22:59] <anom01y> not sure if its compiz, wine, or alsa.
[22:59] <M3TAPHYS1CS> rww: yeah i have had a look through that before but its bookmarked now..i shall check daily =)
[23:00] <eighthour> ryanprior, where do i get that from....???....not in synaptic and download not showing up in google....
[23:00] <anom01y> could be firefox too, or flash..
[23:00] <jochenh> G-Blunted: this version dont have youtube support
[23:00] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: thanks
[23:00] <nefrin2> stefg ---- ok, I went from ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/disk$  TO root@ubuntu:/#
[23:01] <stefg> nefrin2: ok, now you are in your installed system
[23:01] <^hashbang^> jochenh: np
[23:01] <G-Blunted> jochenh, try this one  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:01] <G-Blunted> im not sure if it has youtube support tho..
[23:01] <G-Blunted> i just know it's another flash plugin :)
[23:01] <stefg> nefrin2: now run update-grub
[23:01] <anom01y> ryanprior, do you have any suggestions on how I could isolate this problem ??? I was considering removing the other user and just using one, but thats a retarded solution and doesnt do anything to prevent others from having this problem
[23:01] <Necrogamemaster> Hello everyone
[23:01] <jochenh> G-Blunted: thats the flash plugin i'm using
[23:01] <kjell> Hello Necrogamemaster
[23:02] <jochenh> G-Blunted: adobe flash plugin 10 for 64bit
[23:02] <ryanprior> anom01y: I don't understand what's going on under the hood there well enough to be helpful, unfortunately.
[23:02] <felixsulla> If a machine has windows on it now, can you add Ubuntu to a new partition?
[23:02] <jochenh> G-Blunted: what flash plugin are you using?
[23:02] <Necrogamemaster> what are we discussing?
[23:02] <G-Blunted> is that non-free one the one that comes from adobe?
[23:02] <nefrin2> stefg ----- results of command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116223/
[23:02] <G-Blunted> hmm lemme see
[23:02] <jp_sf> felixsulla: yes
[23:02] <jochenh> G-Blunted: yes
[23:02] <FactTech> Question: Is this a good place to ask a network-manager question, or is there a more specialized channel?
[23:03] <DIFH-ice1oot> FactTech: just ask the question
[23:03] <felixsulla> jp_sf: How would you format the new partition?
[23:03] <^hashbang^> FactTech: this one is fine
[23:03] <jp_sf> !topic | Necrogamemaster
[23:03] <Necrogamemaster> We always try to help
[23:03] <G-Blunted> File name: libflashplayer.so -> Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15...
[23:03] <G-Blunted> i don't know what the package is named tho...lemme see
[23:03] <diginux> quick question, my network works, i can ssh to an ip, and ping a hostname, but cant ssh to a hostname
[23:03] <jochenh> G-Blunted: thats flashplugin-nonfree
[23:04] <jp_sf> felixsulla: usually people use a boot CD, meaning they boot from the CD and then follow the steps to install Linux, choosing to "dual-boot" with windows (if you still need it)
[23:04] <phoenixz> Every reboot I have a process "socket" taking up +95% of my CPU resources. the parent process is cups, and I suspect this is a print job I once accidentally sent to a print which no longer exists. How can I remove this job?? I can not find it anywhere, and killing off cups every restart isnt a solution either :)
[23:04] <eighthour> ryanprior, where can i get ddrecover....???....
[23:04] <^hashbang^> jochenh: I don't have that installed. I installed from the adobe site... so when I look in synaptic I see nofree listed but not installed
[23:04] <G-Blunted> ah
[23:04] <FactTech> Question: I have two network cards on my machine. One is connected to the internet and one to a local LAN. I'm trying to get internet connection sharing to computers on the local LAN... Network Manager sees the internet side and connects just fine via DHCP. However, the local LAN does not come up correctly when set to "shared to other computers".
[23:04] <stefg> nefrin2: looks good...  and just for good measure we'll run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic (not the *-rt kernel). and try to boot that then
[23:05] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: yes I did the same
[23:05] <ryanprior> eighthour: I can't find where using Google, and I don't know where I got my copy. Shame, because it's exactly what you're looking for.
[23:05] <FactTech> ifconfig shows that the interface is seen, but no IP4 address is assigned.
[23:05] <^hashbang^> jochenh: hmmmm. *bangs head*
[23:05] <jp_sf> phoenixz: lprm -
[23:05] <FactTech> I can manually assign one, but this does not seem to result in the sharing of the internet connection.
[23:05] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: but your file name is an other?
[23:05] <ryanprior> eighthour: I see lots of results on Google of people talking about how great it is or how they used it, but I can't find a download link.
[23:05] <anom01y> ryanprior, ok I got this error message..
[23:05] <anom01y> "caught signal 11: server aborting"
[23:05] <^hashbang^> jochenh:? the one from adobes's website?
[23:05] <anom01y> "xinit: connection to server lost"
[23:06] <eighthour> ryanprior, same here....
[23:06] <FactTech> Any clues why the "shared to other computers" setting wouldn't be working?
[23:06] <^hashbang^> jochenh: I pulled http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[23:06] <anom01y> that was what is displayed when I go ctrl-alt-f1
[23:06] <anom01y> (which is the session I am using for the second user, which just crashed).
[23:06] <phoenixz> jp_sf: returns prompt.. is normal?
[23:06] <nefrin2> stefg ---- ran the dpkg http://paste.ubuntu.com/116232/   --- when I reboot, I am guesing that I will want to chose the 2.6.24.23-generic kernel to boot with?
[23:06] <phoenixz> jp_sf: socket is still there..
[23:07] <jp_sf> phoenixz: your cupsd is running ? what top is stating ?
[23:07] <trygg> Where is the grub file located if you boot from the hdd?
[23:07] <stefg> nefrin2: yup... but first we're going to rewrite the mbr
[23:07] <phoenixz> jp_sf: just restarted cups, did lprm -, top shows "socket" process @ +95%
[23:07] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: yes I use the same
[23:07] <stefg> nefrin2: now out of the chroot again... press ctrl-d
[23:07] <maverickprowls> Hello all
[23:07] <^hashbang^> jochenh: have you tried the links I sent you?
[23:08] <ryanprior> eighthour: Found it! http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[23:08] <nefrin2> stefg ---- back to: ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/disk$
[23:08] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: hmm I'll try the 32 one
[23:08] <ryanprior> eighthour: I think ddrecover was an older Unix utility.
[23:08] <jp_sf> phoenixz: you have the pid ? of the process ?
[23:08] <^hashbang^> jochenh: ok
[23:08] <stefg> nefrin2: good now run 'sudo grub'
[23:08] <nefrin2> stefg ---- done
[23:08] <stefg> nefrin2: you'll get a grub prompt
[23:09] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: I think this once help me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#amd64andppc thanks for that
[23:09] <stefg> nefrin2: at the grub-prompt type'find /boot/grub/stage1' and tell me what turns up
[23:09] <^hashbang^> jochenh: ok so you can play flash now?
[23:09] <Kakinho> Indo ao banhu...
[23:09] <phoenixz> jp_sf: yeah, I can kill it if I'd like to but.. the problem is that I have to do thaht every reboot and I don't want to do that anymore.. the (@#*@(* print job just has to piss off
[23:09] <nefrin2> stefg ---- (hd1,0)
[23:09] <trygg> How do I know what device is mounted on a HDD?
[23:10] <jochenh> ^hashbang^: not until now, but i'll try the 32bit version
[23:10] <rww> !ohmy | phoenixz
[23:10] <anom01y> ryanprior, is it normal that the cpu spikes whenever I switch users ? I notice it shoots up to like 80% every time.
[23:10] <^hashbang^> jochenh: oh ok ...
[23:10] <nightrid3r> !br | Kakinho
[23:10] <eighthour> ryanprior, thanks anyway....
[23:10] <stefg> nefrin2: ok .. now 'root (hd1,0)' then 'setup (hd1)'
[23:10] <phoenixz> rww: pardon my french
[23:10] <jochenh> G-Blunted: I'll try the 32bit version, thanks for your help until now
[23:10] <jp_sf> phoenixz: are you sure it is a print job ?
[23:10] <Omar> Hello, I try to install xilinx ISE webpack on my ubuntu
[23:10] <ryanprior> eighthour: Did you see that I found what you're looking for?
[23:11] <phoenixz> jp_sf: yes.. ps -F PID gives me cups as parent
[23:11] <ryanprior> eighthour: ddrescue should probably work.
[23:11] <diginux> everyone, i have asked my question twice now, no one will answer, is there a better place to ask my question?
[23:11] <jochenh> G-Blunted: looks like the 64bit version has bugs
[23:11] <nefrin2> stefg ----- http://paste.ubuntu.com/116235/
[23:11] <Omar> but the CD (attached with xilinx kit) contain installer only for Red Hat Linux
[23:11] <Omar> what can I do???
[23:11] <stefg> nefrin2: brilliant ... now try rebooting
[23:11] <Omar> to install it on ubuntu
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jochenh NOt really bugs, but more to learn and very little advantage even when you do run 64  bit
[23:12] <nefrin2> stefg ---- will do, I will still be in chat as "nefrin" incase anything goes wrong
[23:12] <ryanprior> anom01y: I truly have no clue what happens when you switch users and leave the session for one of them running. I've never done it in my life - I always log off - and I've never bothered to look at how it works under the hood, so asking me these questions will get you nowhere. I suggest that you start reading, googling, investigating, etc.
[23:12] <stefg> nefrin2: i didn't forget that :-)
[23:12] <jochenh> looks like there's an error between my hardware and 64bit plugin
[23:12] <eighthour> ryanprior, no....sorry....i was still looking myself....thanks....
[23:12] <G-Blunted> ya
[23:12] <nightrid3r> !alien
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Omar Patience.  ask a full and complete question..  and DONT try to install redhat linux software on  or in Uubntu
[23:12] <bernz> hi! i have a typical PC, nothing too fancy, *except* a PCI USB 2.0 expansion card; 'intrepid' installed fine, and stuff's good, except my mobo USB ports aren't fully functional; they're powered (i can charge stuff), but inserted devices don't register, and make no noise in '/var/log/messages' (which i've follow-tailed before plugging); devices plugged into the expansion card DO make noise in the log... it's like the mobo's host(s) are not getting initialized.
[23:12] <trygg> Let me rephrase that, where do I see how the HDDs are mounted?
[23:13] <jp_sf> phoenixz: and if you issue a lpstat -o
[23:13] <CJ__> What's the command to make a sha256 hash of a given string?
[23:13] <m4rtin> is there a sctor mode using ntfsresize?
[23:13] <ryanprior> trygg: /etc/fstab
[23:13] <phoenixz> jp_sf: nothing.. returns to promppt
[23:13] <SkEmO> hi!
[23:13] <m4rtin> *sector
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> trygg mount in a term, but it brings up everything
[23:13] <jp_sf> phoenixz: then it means the queue is empty
[23:14] <SkEmO> i have kubuntu 7.10, if i upgrade to 8.10, will i loose all my info?
[23:14] <jp_sf> phoenixz: sis you submitt a job as root or as aanother user ?
[23:14] <Omar> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, so I can't install xilinx ISE webpack on my ubuntu??? because I have only Windows installer and Red Hat installer in the CD, so what can I do
[23:14] <jp_sf> phoenixz: did you submitt a job as root or as aanother user ?
[23:14] <phoenixz> jp_sf: AFAIK, as my own user..
[23:14] <jp_sf> phoenixz: then it is not a job
[23:14] <phoenixz> jp_sf: maybe I sent it as root by accident.. dunno
[23:14] <SkEmO> !upgrade
[23:14] <phoenixz> let me check lpstat as root
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Omar I have no idea what you are trying to install. but alien is a bad choice
[23:14] <ryanprior> CJ__: You can use openssl to perform that hash.
[23:15] <^hashbang^> Omar: Xilinx is only supported or RHEL and will run on CentOS 32/64bit outside of that.. good luck
[23:15] <phoenixz> jp_sf: nothing either...
[23:15] <ryanprior> CJ__: man openssl
[23:15] <phoenixz> jp_sf: but then.. its cups that creates the socket process, cups is thhe parent process
[23:15] <CJ__> ryanprior: alright, thanks
[23:15] <shay26m> Hello , how can i set the swap size in Ubuntu ?
[23:16] <Omar> Jack_Sparrow: ^hashbang^: OK... thanks
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shay26m gparted is the usual way to set the size of your swap partition
[23:16] <trygg> Jack_Sparrow: Ah there we go. How do I know which ones of the /dev/sd** is what when trying to configure GRUB?
[23:16] <^hashbang^> Omar: np
[23:16] <bernz> (another vote for gparted)
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> trygg sda1 id hd0,0
[23:17] <bernz> shay26m, keep in mind if you are going to use 'hibernate', your swap needs to be at least as big as your RAM and then some
[23:17] <trygg> What would /dev/sdb1 be?
[23:17] <dou213> can somebody help me set up my ftp-server correctly? i am behind my router, trying to connect with FileZilla within the lan on an ubuntu server box, when i connect unencrypted it works just fine, when i do it with SSL it gives me an error: Connection timed out!
[23:17] <[TiZ]> Hi. I'm trying to uninstall some old kernels in intrepid. But I get errors when I try to do so. "Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic, linux-image-2.6.27-9-generic". Can anyone help me out?
[23:17] <stefg> nefrin: how's things going ?
[23:17] <trygg> Jack_Sparrow: hd1,0 right?
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> trygg hd1,0
[23:17] <nefrin> stefg ----- not quit working, http://paste.ubuntu.com/116237/
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[23:17] <trygg> Alright, thanks Jack_Sparrow.
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> trygg pm me if you need more help withthat
[23:18] <dou213> i am using vsftpd
[23:18] <nefrin> stefg ---- hand typed that in while looking at the screen from my secondary laptop
[23:18] <psufan> hi
[23:18] <^hashbang^> hi
[23:18] <shay26m> Jack_Sparrow: what are the steps in order to create swap ? (when i installed Ubuntu i didnt created the swap . when i go to system monitor swap : 0 bytes (0.0%) of 0 bytes ?
[23:19] <psufan> how do i edit MS access on ubuntu?
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> shay26m It creates swap by default.  YOuwill need to shrink arnother partition in order to make swap..  Please tell me this isnt one of those Wubi insta;;s
[23:19] <DIFH-ice1oot> psufan: openoffice i think
[23:19] <ryanprior> psufan: What does MS stand for?
[23:19] <DIFH-ice1oot> ryanprior: microsoft
[23:19] <psufan> ryanprior: Micro Soft
[23:19] <Stroganoff> shay26m: use gparted (perhaps livecd) to resize your linux partition and create a swap partition, and add the swap partition to fstab
[23:20] <psufan> open offices will do Access?
[23:20] <psufan> can it do VBA?
[23:20] <ryanprior> psufan: So, you mean Microsoft Access, the database product? In that case, I think OpenOffice.org Base can open those files.
[23:20] <evon> anyone here using e17?
[23:20] <theacolyte> I'm trying to get my 2nd monitor with display port working (NVIDIA) - it seems like the display is disabled and I can't enable it
[23:20] <DIFH-ice1oot> psufan: dont know, you can also use ms office with ubuntu and wine
[23:20] <stefg> nefrin: hmmm... so i'm pretty positive that grub and kernel are there... the only thing that annoyed me was that grub reported (hd1,0) instead of (hd0,0) ... the other possibly thing can be filesystem damage
[23:20] <ryanprior> psufan: I think the very latest version of Base can do some VBA stuff, but I doubt the coverage is complete yet.
[23:20] <psufan> WINE????
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> evon e17 as in the livecd or enlightenment the desktop
[23:20] <Stroganoff> evon: go to #enlightenment
[23:20] <^hashbang^> psufan: wine?
[23:20] <psufan> WHAT
[23:21] <stefg> nefrin: so boot up the CD agian, but don't mount the installed system
[23:21] <psufan> MS Office is nto very relaxing
[23:21] <nefrin> stefg ---- I think that it reported hd1,0 because I have a second hard drive in that computer that boots windows XP
[23:21] <evon> Jack_Sparrow: I am using it as a desktop. I'm having trouble setting up wireless in ozos
[23:21] <rww> !wine | psufan
[23:21] <shay26m> Jack_Sparrow: does it possible to create the swap partition without the livecd ? (i dont have here  right now the cd)
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> evon Wrong channel for support
[23:21] <anom01y> is there any way from preventing a session from being logged out, or crashed, so it is more secure and will always be "on" ??
[23:22] <ryanprior> shay26m: You can create a swap partition using gparted.
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> shay26m Not your best choice.  you cant resize while it is mounted
[23:22] <anom01y> so that if someone comes up to the computer and screws with it my session won't crash all the time ?
[23:22] <^hashbang^> shay26m: download gpartd burn to cd and then reboot your computer with the cd and resize your harddrive to fit a swap partition
[23:22] <ryanprior> Jack_Sparrow: Could mount as read-only.
[23:22] <stefg> nefrin: and that could cause confusion... some BIOS's flip the numbering around when you choose a different boot device... so grun looks at hd0,  while the bios thinks it's hd1 in grub-speak
[23:22] <DIFH-ice1oot> shay26m: swap must not be an extra partition it can also be a file on an existing partition
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanprior No you cant
[23:23] <ryanprior> Jack_Sparrow: Oh. Nevermind then. =X
[23:23] <shay26m> Jack_Sparrow: i have also windows vista partition i can resize the partition and use the space for the Ubuntu swap right ?
[23:23] <SkEmO> atheros wireless cards work with ubuntu 8.10?
[23:23] <evon> how do i change channels?
[23:23] <Cpudan80> Does anyone know of a decent pandora desktop thing for linux ?
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> shay26m yes, but you will screw up fstab, grub and probably your mbr
[23:23] <nightrid3r> SkEmO: yes
[23:23] <DIFH-ice1oot> evon: /join #channelname
[23:23] <nefrin> stefg ----- that could be it, I'm booted back into LiveCD
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80 I use pandora in firefox in ubuntu
[23:23] <SkEmO> oh
[23:24] <SkEmO> thanks nightrid3r
[23:24] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah that works, but I'd kinda like to have a desktop client thing
[23:24] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: they have a windows vista panel applet which is kinda nice
[23:24] <stefg> nefrin: run 'sudo fdisk -l ' and show the output on pastebin
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80 that isnt pandora
[23:24] <Cpudan80> its not?
[23:24] <kjell> :D
[23:24] <Cpudan80> It says it is... it looks like it is .... works with my pandora account
[23:25] <ex0a> i'm getting a syslog error about a file not existing even though it's there: execv( /glftpd/bin/glftpd ) failed: No such file or directory (errno = 2)
[23:25] <ex0a> any ideas how to correct that?
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80 Someones implememtation of it..
[23:25] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: Actually this was for Win7 now that I think about it
[23:25] <Cpudan80> oh
[23:25] <Cpudan80> I see
[23:26] <nefrin2> stefg ----- http://paste.ubuntu.com/116241/
[23:26] <stefg> nefrin: wait... the message you received are already kernel messages... so grub got it right, i think it's an initrd problem
[23:26] <ex0a> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1461252 2009-02-09 17:47 /glftpd/bin/glftpd <- shows the file is there and proper perms
[23:26] <akorpija> Anybody know the major window navigators? Like AWN, Cairo, and what else? I'm convinced i was using something before i formatted my HD thatw asn't either of those but was killer
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80 we use pandora at the office.  Works great. until someone opens up a second copy and two songs start playing throgh the sound system
[23:27] <Cpudan80> lol
[23:27] <Jon0> akorpija, do you mean window managers?
[23:27] <Cpudan80> oops
[23:27] <stefg> nefrin2: but just to make sure we'll run sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[23:27] <ryanprior> akorpija: Gnome-Do perhaps?
[23:28] <stefg> nefrin2: make sure it's not mounted
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> akorpija http://xwinman.org/
[23:28] <nefrin2> stefg ---- running now, it isn't mounted
[23:28] <ryanprior> Jack_Sparrow: Not window managers. Dock programs.
[23:28] <mib_rxo3tt> Hey, I would like to boot from my flash drive. How do I copy my Ubuntu ISO file to my flash drive and make it able to be booted from (formatted correctly)?
[23:29] <akorpija> no i mean like navigators like AWN and Cairo-Dock
[23:29] <eraldo> need help getting wifi to work on openWrt... I have no idea why it does not work. please someone help me out
[23:29] <ryanprior> mib_rxo3tt: System -> Administration -> Create a USB Startup Disk
[23:29] <ASrock> what command should i use in the terminal to find out my ip address on the network?
[23:29] <psufan> how many floppies does UBUNTU take up?
[23:29] <wassy121> ASrock: ifconfig
[23:29] <dou213> hi guys, just wandering how i can change the HISTSIZE? with export HISTSIZE='nr' like 3000?
[23:29] <mib_rxo3tt> ryanprior: Where is system?
[23:29] <^hashbang^> psufan: floppies?
[23:29] <wassy121> ASrock: or, visit www.whatismyip.com for your external IP.
[23:29] <psufan> yes
[23:29] <zaapiel-mobile> is there a gnome k3b style app?
[23:29] <^hashbang^> psufan: your joking right? do people still use those?
[23:29] <psufan> no, yes
[23:29] <ex0a> anyone know why a file would show up as "no such file or dir" in syslog even though it's there?
[23:30] <^hashbang^> psufan: well, a default install is 2.7G so I guess a whole lot of floppies
[23:30] <wassy121> psufan: Ubuntu, just to boot it and get networking can fit on 1 floppy.
[23:30] <ryanprior> mib_rxo3tt: It's at the top of the screen, near Applications and Places.
[23:30] <psufan> this PC has no networking
[23:30] <psufan> which is why i am using floppies
[23:30] <wassy121> psufan: but, you have to format it properly.  From there you will need to go through a "real" install.
[23:30] <andresmauricio> hola
[23:30] <mib_rxo3tt> ryanprior: ... I'm running Windows XP
[23:30] <ryanprior> psufan: About 280 floppies.
[23:30] <wassy121> psufan: try a USB stick too.  More space.
[23:31] <ryanprior> mib_rxo3tt: Ah, In that case, I know there are tutorials out there if you google.
[23:31] <mib_rxo3tt> ryanprior: I'm mentioning this in a Ubuntu Chatroom because I'm trying to get Ubuntu to work
[23:31] <^hashbang^> ryanprior: nice man... I was to lazy to do the math
[23:31] <mib_rxo3tt> ryanprior: Ah, where can I find these?
[23:31] <psufan> no USB
[23:31] <psufan> can i get a PS2 stick?
[23:31] <wassy121> psufan: You can also get real fancy and install via serial cable, printer cable, crossover ethernet to your other computer, etc.
[23:31] <poseidon> ~netbeans
[23:31] <DIFH-ice1oot> psufan: no there is no ps2 stick
[23:32] <poseidon> !netbeans
[23:32] <porter1> hello, does anyone know if gnome turns pidgin to away status if the computer is in screensaver? Or if there's a way teo do this?
[23:32] <andresmauricio> bo
[23:32] <mib_rxo3tt> ryanprior: I can't just drag the ISO file into the USB drive?
[23:32] <psufan> ok I have a printer cable now what
[23:32] <ryanprior> mib_rxo3tt: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=install+Ubuntu+on+flash+drive
[23:32] <wassy121> porter1: I think that is a function of the new 8.10 ubuntu.
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_rxo3tt no
[23:32] <porter1> 8.10 or 9.04?
[23:32] <^hashbang^> mib_rxo3tt: no...
[23:32] <stefg> nefrin: another possibility is: your linux drive is quite large. you might suffer from a 'out of range' problem. if you write a new initrd (which happens when you mess with usplash) the initrd might get written far to the rear of the disk.grub/bios might not be able to reach that far back on the disk, b/c the don't have large enough address space
[23:32] <^hashbang^> mib_rxo3tt: it doesn't work that way.
[23:32] <wassy121> psufan: read lots of old docs about how to get PC-to-PC communications over a printer cable.
[23:33] <mib_rxo3tt> ryanprior: Nice website =D. I'm gonna use it.
[23:33] <wassy121> psufan: like, lots of docs unfortunately:(
[23:33] <psufan> what
[23:33] <^hashbang^> wassy121: whoa... now that's oldschool! =)
[23:33] <stefg> nefrin: how old ist that machine, how old is the bios ?
[23:33] <wassy121> psufan: letmegooglethatforyou.com
[23:33] <^hashbang^> wassy121: lmao
[23:33] <poseidon> Is there a package for netbeans 6.5?
[23:33] <psufan> what
[23:34] <nefrin2> stefg ---- machine is a couple of years old, last time I updated bios was about 1 year ago (just before switching to ubuntu from Vista)
[23:34] <DIFH-ice1oot> poseidon: apt-cache search netbeans will tell you
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !find netbeans
[23:34] <ryanprior> LOL
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !info netbeans
[23:34] <ex0a> anyone know how i can fix a syslog error about a file not existing even though it's there?: execv( /glftpd/bin/glftpd ) failed: No such file or directory (errno = 2)
[23:34] <poseidon> netbeans gives me netbeans 6.0.1
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> poseidon that is the current stable from our repos
[23:34] <psufan> can i use a PS2 cable to install UBUNTU
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> psufan np
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[23:35] <poseidon> 6.5 has been out for a while right now.  I would think that a package would have been put in the stable repos by now
[23:35] <nefrin2> stefg ---- I've also had a problem with the large hard drive issue for grub loading, but think I have fixed that problem
[23:35] <wassy121> psufan: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP-Install-HOWTO.html#toc8 might be a good start
[23:35] <psufan> um
[23:35] <xoox> My filesystem was remounted read only. How do I check why (/var/log/messages is empty)?
[23:35] <stefg> nefrin2: would taking a backup and repartitioning the drive be an option? Anyway it's a good idea of having the system and your /home separate
[23:35] <^hashbang^> wassy121: remember "laplink" hehe
[23:35] <luddite> G'day all - I have 8.04 (ext2 /dev/sdc2 with swap on /dev/sdc1) and 8.10 on extended partition /dev/sdc3 as ->(ext3 /dev/sdc5 with swap on /dev/sdc6. I am worried about deleting 8.04 (/dev/sdc2 and 1). What should i do?
[23:35] <psufan> what is PLIP
[23:35] <adaptr> psufan: like SLIP, but different
[23:35] <genii> psufan: paralel port IP
[23:36] <wassy121> psufan: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=plip :)
[23:36] <nefrin2> stefg ---- repartitioning would be an option, though a last option hopefully
[23:36] <wassy121> psufan: it is for parallel port cable communications between two machines.  You can use it to install linux.
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 I missed the question you had?
[23:36] <psufan> um
[23:36] <stefg> nefrin2: how's the fsck going? any errors up to now?
[23:36] <psufan> can i use my GAME PORT?
[23:36] <psufan> that may be easier if it is serial
[23:37] <nefrin2> stefg --- was just remarking that GRUB loading errors are also an issue of having a large hard drive, have had those in the past
[23:37] <^hashbang^> psufan: how old is this system?
[23:37] <psufan> the 90s
[23:37] <genii> psufan: If your computer has no cd, no usb, and just a floppy... you can network it by parallel port cable (sometimes called LapLink cable) and install that way from a second box which also understands PLIP and acts as a n apt-proxy or so
[23:37] <^hashbang^> psufan: so like a 386? 486?
[23:37] <psufan> genli: it's not a laptop
[23:37] <nefrin2> stefg ---- http://paste.ubuntu.com/116245/
[23:38] <mcgohenn> it doesn't need to be a laptop for laplink cable sto work
[23:38] <^hashbang^> psufan: your best bet is laplink
[23:38] <stefg> nefrin2: I tell you what: The longer i think about it, the more i'm convinced that you should make up a better partition scheme for that box
[23:38] <genii> psufan: I did not state anywhere that this process is limited to laptops
[23:38] <wassy121> psufan: the "game port" is normally yellow, and is also normally a "midi port".
[23:38] <psufan> I can use MIDI to install UBUNTU?
[23:38] <genii> psufan: No
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> psufan Please read our link on all the many ways to install.
[23:38] <^hashbang^> psufan: hmm, doubt it... serial is your option
[23:38] <wassy121> psufan: you may have a grey or black 12-pin female back there which is a serial port.  That can be used.
[23:38] <adaptr> psufan: you can't install anything without physical access
[23:38] <stefg> nefrin2: yeak.. so filesystem is fine... i'm pretty sure now that your 500G partition is simply too much
[23:39] <psufan> I am going to use this as a car computer
[23:39] <nefrin2> stefg ---- yeah, I think that I need a better partition scheme as well
[23:39] <psufan> I've removed the right side seat
[23:39] <psufan> to put this computer
[23:39] <nefrin2> stefg ---- I need a few minutes to mount that drive and recover any important files from it
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 did you pastebin your fdisk -l already
[23:39] <wassy121> psufan: use a newer system for Solid State Drives.  Old-school spinny hard drives get Fed up by the bumps.
[23:39] <adaptr> what is it, a friggin Cray 1 ?
[23:39] <psufan> is there a way to instead use the car management system as my UBUNTU car PC box?
[23:40] <wassy121> psufan: it would require super extra lotsa hacks.
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> psufan No.  please read our docs
[23:40] <cdeszaq1> How can I execute a custom script from a post-commit subversion hook? I keep running into permissions errors. The script is simple...cd into a working copy, run svn update. That's it. But it seems that I cannot get the permissions set right because the update fails every time, even with 777 permissions
[23:40] <jillian> I'm upgrading my ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and have noticed that my sound has gone...Is this going to be fixed once the download is complete?
[23:40] <stefg> nefrin2: like 256MB /boot , 20G / (root) , 2G swap , rest /home
[23:40] <cdeszaq1> \nick cdeszaq
[23:40] <psufan> wassy121: please give me a push in a direction
[23:40] <wassy121> psufan: you could control the machine with the dashboard switches if you are crafty enough.
[23:40] <bradly> Anyone know ubuntu puts slapd.conf by default?
[23:40] <nefrin2> Jack_Sparrow ---- yes, here it is again http://paste.ubuntu.com/116247/
[23:40] <bradly> *know where
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 ty
[23:40] <^hashbang^> cdeszaql: pastbin your script
[23:40] <wassy121> psufan: hacks are things you have to figure out yourself unfortunately :(
[23:41] <Mike_92> Does Ubuntu come with a VNC client?
[23:41] <psufan> ok i'm removing my cruise controls
[23:41] <psufan> and rerouting them to boot UBUNTU
[23:41] <psufan> and to play music
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> psufan Please stop
[23:41] <genii> bradly: in /etc   or a subdir of that
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 what issue were you having
[23:41] <jillian> can anyone help me
[23:41] <mcgohenn> Mike_92 it comes with a remote desktop, and you can install a VNC
[23:41] <^hashbang^> Mike_92: you can install one via the package manager or from the terminal via sudo apt-get vnc-common
[23:41] <psufan> what
[23:41] <remu> Hey everyone. I am using Geany as my IDE, and I have ubuntu set to open java source code files with Geany, however, when I open a downloaded whatever.java by double clicking in the firefox download window, it always opens it with gedit rather than Geany, if I go to my desktop and double click it, it opens properly in Geany....any ideas on how I can get firefox to use Geany?
[23:42] <pxc> hey, I'm having atheros wifi problems on Intrepid. How can I get wpa_supplicant to work with the madwifi driver? It's not listed in wpa_supplicant --help.
[23:42] <psufan> another question: can I replace the OS on my TI-82 so i can use Python instead of just TI BASIC?
[23:42] <jillian> i need to know if once my ubuntu 8.04 has finished upgrading if my sound will return
[23:42] <bradly> genii: hmm.. I don't see it in etc. Maybe I have to create it myself after install?
[23:42] <mcgohenn> psufan: unles you are an automotive programmer... you really don't want to try those kinds of controls...
[23:42] <nefrin2> Jack_Sparrow ----- can't boot up the system, but I think stefg has got it right, my partition is just too big for ubuntu to handle and I need to clean it up
[23:43] <cdeszaq1> Here is the update script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116248/  The post-commit hook is just one line to call it: /data/scripts/./update.sh
[23:43] <cdeszaq1> ^hashbang^: see above
[23:43] <^hashbang^> cdeszaql: got it...
[23:43] <luddite> can i delete a partition with a unused 8.04 if its extended partition is running 8.10?
[23:43] <genii> bradly: You can do something like:   dpkg -L ldap          (or whichever it was that should have the slapd.conf, I forget exact name) and it should list the files it installed
[23:43] <stefg> nefrin2: replace ubuntu with bios/grub ....
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 grub should go in mbr of sda
[23:43] <stefg> :-)
[23:43] <remu> pxc, I dunno if it works for madwifi or not, but my sisters computer has an atheros card, and I went "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid" and then it was working.
[23:43] <dou213> hi guys, just wandering how i can change the HISTSIZE? with export HISTSIZE='nr' like 3000?
[23:44] <^hashbang^> cdeszaql: so if your in your svn hooks dir how are you excuting this script in your post-commit file?
[23:44] <remu> pxc and then her card works on my wpa2 protected network using network-manager
[23:44] <kholerabbi> the nautilus cd creator has no size indicator?!
[23:44] <kholerabbi> it doesn't tell you how much is used - lol
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 grub> root (hd1,0)             setup (hd0)
[23:45] <ryanprior> kholerabbi: That's why we suggest using Brasero instead.
[23:45] <pxc> remu: I've played with ath5k, but the Ubuntu keeps loading the madwifi driver, despite my contradictory blacklist entries in /etc/modprobe.d/madwifi
[23:45] <cdeszaq1> ^hashbang^: SVN runs this after a commit completes, so it literally runs the command "/data/scripts/./update.sh" which is the script I pastebin'ed
[23:45] <j85wilson> I must say even after years of using it, I continue to be impressed by Debian/Ubuntu.  My laptop ran out of battery partway through apt-get upgrade, and I thought it would be borked for sure.  But it came up, and another call to apt-get asked for a specific invocation of dpkg, which finished the upgrade seamlessly.
[23:45] <bernz> psufan, RS232?
[23:45] <cdeszaq1> ^hashbang^: The path for the update script is based off of root
[23:45] <bradly> genii: Thanks. Apparently it doesn't install a slapd.conf any more
[23:45] <psufan> what?
[23:45] <remu> pxc, I dont know much about madwifi, doing the backports method, and making sure the backports repo was enabled worked for me
[23:45] <bernz> (if you're still figuring out some I/O path for your old old machine)
[23:45] <remu> Sorry
[23:45] <ryanprior> j85wilson: That's great. Many people are not so lucky, so I'm glad it came up that way for you.
[23:46] <^hashbang^> cdeszaql: ok so if you run ./post-commit by hand what do you get?
[23:46] <stefg> Jack_Sparrow: we went through a whole grub reinstall kernel reconfigure and fsck... the bios just doesn't get the initrd... out of address space. got written too far to the back when he did a update-initramfs in the process of customizing usplash
[23:46] <adaptr> j85wilson: now try unplugging it halfway through a dist-upgrade :)
[23:46] <^hashbang^> cdeszaql: also make sure to add in your options for your $REPOS and $REV for your mail option too.
[23:46] <j85wilson> heh, no thanks there adaptr :)
[23:46] <kholerabbi> ryanprior: yeah. But cd creator is default on blank cds.......this is not good.
[23:46] <bernz> psu, i must admit i was looking at the scrollbuffer -- perhaps you've already solved your problem ;-)
[23:47] <Florent_> hi i looking for a soft who can boot my computer with an iso who is on a other partitions (in order to not burn a CD)
[23:47] <pxc> the repository is enabled, the ath5k driver is installed, and it can be loaded manually... the lappy just always loads the madwifi driver
[23:47] <psufan> bernz sorry please dont talk about this here
[23:47] <psufan> you can PM me
[23:47] <cdeszaq1> ^hashbang^: The options are just ignored, so that's no prob, but I noticed the perms on the post-commit were non-executable...let me try this again :)
[23:47] <spritle> so, whenever i try to save my video settings in nvidia-settings, i get an error saying it failed to parse xorg.conf O__o
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > Florent_
[23:47] <ryanprior> kholerabbi: Default apps as a whole are a mess in Ubuntu, and I think in other distros as well. There is no good system in place, it's all hodgepodge and much of the time the best choices are not being made anyway.
[23:48] <^hashbang^> cdeszaql: yea my post-commit is 755
[23:48] <nefrin2> stefg --- I'm copying files over to an external usb harddrive right now that I can't replace, but it's gonna take about an hour to complete. If you just want to run through any additional steps that I should know about to repartition when I reinstall, I'll cut and past them
[23:48] <Florent_> ty
[23:48] <remu> pxc, have you tried uninstalling madwifi? is that even possible?
[23:48] <j85wilson> spritle: you might pastebin your xorg.conf, maybe there is some error in it for some reason.  I don't know about nvidia-settings
[23:48] <pxc> remu: i'd have to remove the entire ubuntu-restricted-modules package
[23:48] <DefineByte> In the process of trying to get sound working with Flash 10 I no longer have sound anywhere. Any ideas on where to start looking?
[23:48] <mcgohenn> if anyone has a moment, i have a question about ripping music to .mp3 format
[23:49] <j85wilson> pxc: can you blacklist the modules you don't want
[23:49] <DefineByte> aplay -l shows the sound card but it can't play any audio files.
[23:49] <^hashbang^> spritle: are you running nvidia-settings as gksu?
[23:49] <stefg> nefrin2: As we agreed on a more or less hardware problem there's not much left to do. you don't even need to reinstall, but it might be easier if you dont want to write a fstab and several other things ...
[23:49] <DefineByte> I've added myself to the pulseaudio groups but htat didn't help.
[23:49] <cdeszaq1> ^hashbang^: After running ./post-commit, got this: "svn: Can't set permissions on '.svn/entries.2.tmp': Operation not permitted"
[23:49] <spritle> gksu?
[23:50] <spritle> im running it with sudo
[23:50] <DefineByte> I don't see an audio group which seems strange to me.
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[23:50] <adaptr> spritle: sudo can't do X
[23:50] <DefineByte> maybe it's normal
[23:50] <hvgotcodes> it seems like a ton of packages depend on python 2.5, but 3.0 is available in synaptic.  Is there a way to get 3.0 on the system without breaking anything?
[23:50] <nefrin2> stefg ---- I'm not much one for writing code, a complete reinstall with a proper partition would probably solve all my problems and they wouldn't come back
[23:50] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: you around, I see I assume that you are the one that made the ms vx6000 .deb file?
[23:50] <remu> pxc: have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[23:50] <adaptr> spritle: it's in the system menu, just use that
[23:50] <remu> I read that the blacklisting suggested there might work
[23:50] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: can I get that for ibex?
[23:52] <stefg> nefrin2: as said before i'd recommend  a 256 MB /boot, some 20Gigs for the system /, then (as logical partition) around 2 G of swap , then the rest for /home... if you hva a large movie collection you might to consider putteing them separate on a dedicated partiton (preferably on xfs )
[23:52] <spritle> ah, gksudo seems to have worked :D
[23:52] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: I have a person that will completely drop windows if that web cam will work under ibex
[23:52] <nefrin2> stefg ---- I will probably use exactly what you put in chat for a partition setup... I have no movie collection, I keep all music and movies on my PS3 with a backup on an external harddrive
[23:53] <bernz> so, my mobo USB ports don't get initialized properly (but my expansion card ones do) -- where can i start digging? /var/logs/messages shows no activity during a physical plug-in event
[23:53] <therealpxc> hey, sry; my inet connection bounced
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 Split what he said to leave for home down into 100 gig partitions.. you will use them and it will make life simpler
[23:53] <therealpxc> [16:50] <pxc> in /etc/modprobe.d/madwifi, I have lines blacklisting ath_pci and ath_hal, but the thing still gets loaded on boot
[23:53] <therealpxc> [16:50] <pxc> do i have to run something to let the system know i've made these changes?
[23:54] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: I'm not sure about the vx6000 - I did some packages months ago for someone to test but don't have access to the cam myself
[23:54] <Bodsda> which plugin in ccsm allows windows to be selected on mouse over rather then on click?
[23:54] <therealpxc> j85wilson: is there something else i need to do, as well?
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 I personally would put an ntfs att eh start of your 500 assuming your windows install would be nice to move over when that other drive starts to get older
[23:54] <nefrin2> Jack_Sparrow ---- that actually sounds like a good idea, since I got 500GB of space
[23:54] <therealpxc> adf
[23:54] <j85wilson> therealpxc: I don't know.  I'm not all that familiar with blacklisting modules.  Google might help you; that's where I'd start.
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 I try to avoid any partition over 100 gig..
[23:55] <i-pink> hii
[23:55] <i-pink> i looking for some program like InkSeine
[23:55] <therealpxc> alrighty... back to google
[23:55] <jereme> I pinned ruby to v1.8.6 in intrepid... purged my ruby install, reinstalled it, saw that it installed the 1.8.6 packages, yet it reports as 1.8.7 w/ ruby -v
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> i-pink inkscape
[23:55] <nefrin2> Jack_Sparrow --- I got two more hard drives laying around unused to replace the windows one, and I only keep windows running because of computer security and networking classes at school
[23:55] <i-pink> no
[23:55] <mcgohenn> if anyone has a moment, i have a question about ripping music to .mp3 format
[23:56] <i-pink> is for tablet pc
[23:56] <Bodsda> nvm
[23:56] <j85wilson> mcgohenn: don't ask to ask...
[23:56] <nefrin2> Jack_Sparrow ---- personally, if my windows drive crashed, I'd rejoice in having to tell my teacher I can't work on windows anymore
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> nefrin2 I still dual boot, as there is lots of cool stuff for winodws boxes, as long as they dont get to connect to thte internet
[23:56] <cdeszaq1> I have gotten the permissions right no the post-commit script now, but the script cannot run the svn up command due to other permission problems. When it gets to that line, SVN says this: svn: Can't set permissions on '.svn/entries.2.tmp': Operation not permitted    The pastbin of the problem script is http://paste.ubuntu.com/116248/
[23:56] <jereme> has anyone in here successfully pinned ruby 1.8.6 on intrepid?
[23:56] <j85wilson> mcgohenn: just ask, and if someone has a moment, they will answer.
[23:56] <i-pink> Jack_Sparrow : is for tablet pc
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> i-pink look into netbook remix for that hardware
[23:57] <i-pink> ???
[23:57] <therealpxc> alright, i found a solution on the internet that I'll post here for the logs: after you change your blacklists in /etc/modprobe.d/FILENAME, you have to run update-initramfs.
[23:57] <mcgohenn> I have gstreamer0.10-plugin-ulgy, lame, and ubuntu-restricted installed, and soundjuicer will show mp3 format, however every time i try it only rips to .flac
[23:57] <disappearedng> hey does any1 here have a good lan game to recommend for me and my girlfriend?
[23:57] <i-pink> Jack_Sparrow : its program for notes
[23:58] <Sir_Faren> disappearedng: hunt
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> i-pink sorry, cant help you there, never heard of it
[23:58] <i-pink> Jack_Sparrow : http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/inkseine/
[23:58] <jereme> disappearedng, skype
[23:58] <disappearedng> lol
[23:59] <jereme> unless it needs to be wholesome :)
[23:59] <Anne> How do I add the Icons for Openoffice.org in the Application/Office menu
[23:59] <maxedison> hi
[23:59] <bernz> therealpxc, nice, good work :-)
[23:59] <disappearedng> jereme: lol
[23:59] <Flux_teh_Fox> I'm using amarok 1,4 in GNOME, and when I right-click on a visualization window to make it full screen,
[23:59] <constantine_> hi I'm trying to get cairo-dock to work, I just had it working and it stopped all of the sudden
[23:59] <disappearedng> Sir_Faren hunt is not a game
[23:59] <yoyoned> !menu
[23:59] <disappearedng> is it?
[23:59] <Flux_teh_Fox> it appears for a second and goes back to windowed
[23:59] <Flux_teh_Fox> any suggestions?
[23:59] <chnuebi> @disappearedng: i know nexuiz...