[00:40] <Ahmuck> i need to lock the screen size in at 1024x768 for all clients
[00:40] <Ahmuck> i assume there is a management utility to do this?
[01:50] <sbalneav> Ahmuck: Well, you could just set the screen dimensions in gconf
[01:50] <sbalneav> and make it a mandatory setting.
[02:05] <Ahmuck> ok.  i'll do that.  thx
[03:23] <david__> Hello, I'm trying to install the Edubuntu education addon cd and I'm having problems, when I put the cd in the drive and click install add on, it starts to install but it gets to 33 out of 104 and says there was an error and asks if i want to keep ignoring the uninstalled packages. I tried a few times  and then I added the CDROM to software sources then tried a few more times. I don't know linux or ubuntu to well could someone please help?
[03:24] <david__> ne1 here?
[03:25] <LaserJock> david__: on sec
[03:25] <LaserJock> david__: what version of Edubuntu/Ubuntu?
[03:26] <LaserJock> david__: and do you happen to know what package it gets messed up on?
[03:31] <david__> 8.10
[03:31] <david__> no, let me try to run it again
[03:31] <david__> can i just install from the rpos?
[03:31] <david__> repos?
[03:32] <david__> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Edubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release amd64 Binary-1 (20081027.1)]/pool/main/e/edubuntu-addon-meta/app-install-data-edubuntu_0.8_all.deb
[03:33] <david__>   Hash Sum mismatch
[03:33] <david__> that is at the top of the list
[03:34] <david__> kino_1.3.0-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[03:34] <david__> and that one is at the bottom of the list
[13:54] <loic-m> ogra, are you there?
[14:03] <ogra> loic-m, only with half an eye, very busy, what up ?
[14:04] <ogra> *whats
[14:05] <loic-m> Just a question about tuxtype/tuxmath Ubuntu changes in case you know
[14:07] <loic-m> Changelog for ubuntu1 : add X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=tuxtype
[14:08] <loic-m> Since with new versions the other diffs with Debian should only be that, I was wondering what it does and if it's really useful since tuxmath don't have that
[14:16] <loic-m> It could be because that release had Ubuntu changes for two language translations, and since they're now upstream the X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain could be dropped. However I don't know for sure.
[14:17] <loic-m> Another explanation would have been because the .desktop file has Rosetta translations - but I couldn't find any tuxtype related stuff in Rosetta (on Launchpad)
[14:25] <loic-m> Need to shut down, I'll read the logs tonight if somebody can provide an answer
[14:36] <ogra> loic-m, the X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain setting is used by language packs
[16:39] <highvoltage> LaserJock: half a kilogram even? :)
[16:40] <LaserJock> highvoltage: ?
[16:41] <highvoltage> LaserJock: whoops, I replied to something ancient (just had to hold in pgdn for a few seconds there)
[16:42] <LaserJock> highvoltage: you get my email to -devel about EC and LP teams?
[16:49] <highvoltage> LaserJock: yep I ded
[16:49] <highvoltage> *did
[16:50] <highvoltage> LaserJock: only read it today though, I didn't have a chance to check my email really since before the weekend
[16:50] <LaserJock> k, np
[16:50] <LaserJock> just wanted to make sure my emails were getting through
[16:50] <LaserJock> Gmail doesn't exactly give me confidence as they don't really show your email arriving to the list
[17:16] <Lns> Hey all
[17:16] <LaserJock> hi Lns
[17:17] <Lns> Can you do localapps with a Hardy server and an Ibex chroot?
[17:17] <Lns> hey LaserJock !
[17:17] <alkisg> Lns: does that boot? !!!
[17:17] <Lns> alkisg: never tried, just asking ;)
[17:18] <Lns> As you probably know, I like sticking w/LTS - but I could really use localapp and/or fat client functionality
[17:18] <Lns> i think fat clients work in hardy, right?
[17:18] <alkisg> I think the ltsp client / server differences would be too vast for it to boot
[17:19] <Lns> alkisg: gotcha.. i was worried about that. Too bad
[17:19] <alkisg> Hey, I'm newbie, don't take my word for it, wait for the experts.. :)
[17:19] <Lns> i'll have to try the fat client script when i'm feeling gutsy (no pun intended)
[17:19] <Lns> alkisg: i think you're far from a newbie ;)
[17:20] <alkisg> Nah... Last April I started using Linux exclusively. Not even a year yet... :(
[17:20] <alkisg> (damn 17 years of DOS/Windows...)
[17:20] <Lns> oh wow
[17:20] <Lns> i guess that makes me a vet! =p (using linux since RH 5.1 in '95)
[17:20] <alkisg> Wow!!!
[17:21] <Lns> of course i'm lazy so i wasn't always learning what i should have been (scripting, coding, etc.)
[17:21] <alkisg> First time I used internet was around '98... I couldn't even get my hands on RH 5.1 :)
[17:21] <LaserJock> I've been using Linux since RH 7.2 in 2002
[17:22] <beachsurfin> what software allows me to view what each client is doing on their desktop?
[17:22] <Lns> beachsurfin: iTalc
[17:22] <Lns> I apologize to everyone here for not picking up the ball on the Edubuntu wiki..i've been so slammed
[17:23] <Lns> it's still on my to-do list though
[17:23] <Lns> I'm having to study RT to convert my existing ticketing database over
[17:24] <beachsurfin> thanks Lns
[17:24] <LaserJock> yeah, I think I'm going to tighten up the Jaunty TODO and set milestones
[17:25] <LaserJock> we've only got 9 days until Feature Freeze
[17:25] <Lns> that's insane
[17:25] <Lns> I *just* upgraded to the Ibex on my eee :)
[17:26] <Lns> it was impossible without a format (4GB SSD)
[17:26] <Lns> what sucks is that I was looking forward to hibernate in swap, but I was in a rush and accepted defaults for partitions (256mb swap) and I have 512mb ram..so there's never enough room :(
[17:29] <LaserJock> Lns: ah yeah, I've done that before
[17:29] <alkisg> Can't a swap file be used for hibernation? I thought there was a workaround for this...
[17:30] <Lns> alkisg: not sure. I don't get why *buntu likes swap partitions for hibernation anyway
[17:30] <Lns> seems kind of weird
[17:30] <LaserJock> Lns: it's a good place to put stuff
[17:30] <Lns> LaserJock: but...it's used for...swap!
[17:30] <Lns> how does it flush what it needs from swap to make room for hibernation?
[17:31]  * Lns probably just doesn't get it
[17:33] <LaserJock> swap always gets flushed anyway
[17:33] <LaserJock> I don't understand much of it
[17:33] <Lns> ah
[17:33] <LaserJock> but it does mean you always have that space there
[17:34] <LaserJock> it's a known quantity
[17:34]  * Lns will probably have to use parted to resize, and turn swap off since it's an SSD anyway
[17:34] <LaserJock> and since the kernel is already used to moving stuff from swap into RAM I assume it's easier to implement
[17:35] <Lns> kinda funny..it'll move swap into ram, then back into swap to hibernate :p
[17:35] <LaserJock> yeah
[17:35] <LaserJock> so all it does is shuffle between the two
[17:35] <Lns> wonder if that could be optimized
[20:27] <LaserJock> ogra: I sent an email to the Debian moodle maintainers, who are also upstream devs I think
[20:27] <ogra> i dont hink they are upstream
[20:28] <LaserJock> hmm, I thought at least one said they were somewhere along the line
[20:28] <ogra> we made some attamept to get upstream involved though ...
[20:28] <ogra> so they probably finally took over
[20:28] <LaserJock> yeah
[20:29] <ogra> moquist had some very long conversations with the upstream guys to get the split going about a year ago
[20:29] <ogra> great to see they finally did it
[20:29] <ogra> sad to see that moquist vanished
[20:30] <ogra> he actually wanted o take over maintenance in debian and ubuntu back then, but stepped down shortly after that
[20:30] <LaserJock> yeah, there are new maintainers as of November
[20:30] <ogra> ah, well, cool if thats actualy upstream
[20:30] <LaserJock> yeah, I could really use his help with this merge :-)
[20:31]  * ogra could really need som understanding of HEX
[20:31] <LaserJock> yeah, I don't envy you
[20:31] <ogra> tinkering with bootloaders isnt really fun
[20:31]  * LaserJock would rather  stick to edu stuff
[20:31] <ogra> well, nobody told me in advance that i would have to hack up debians broken bootloaders :P
[20:32] <LaserJock> ogra: that reminds me, some people reported bugs about the edubuntu bootsplash making their system unbootable
[20:32] <LaserJock> ogra: do you happen to know if things have changed since the last time you updated the artwork package?
[20:33] <ogra> no, i dont
[20:33] <ogra> worst case just drop it
[20:34] <LaserJock> it doesn't exactly make a ton of sense for an "addon layer"
[20:34] <LaserJock> I wonder if we really should remove the bootsplash but leave the other artwork
[20:34] <alkisg> "understanding of HEX" - ogra, what is HEX?
[20:34] <ogra> well, there should be artwork packages for the respective desktops imho
[20:35] <LaserJock> ogra: sure, but the bootsplash kind of implies a different OS, you know?
[20:35] <ogra> alkisg, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=451882
[20:35] <ubottu> Debian bug 451882 in apex-nslu2 "Increase CONFIG_RAMDISK_SIZE" [Normal,Closed]
[20:35] <ogra> LaserJock, yes, i said desktop :)
[20:35] <LaserJock> ogra: exactly
[20:35] <ogra> alkisg, by the looks of it i need the proper value for 5M
[20:36]  * alkisg reads...
[20:37] <ogra> hmm seems 0x004CCCC0 might be what i want
[20:46] <alkisg> Erm, I didn't get it. I thought the result (6291440 bytes transferred) is just 0x00600000 minus the header (=16 bytes).
[20:51] <alkisg> ogra, the man that opened the bug just asked for a static change in the header to 0x00600000 - 16... So for 5M you'd need 5M - 16.
[20:56] <alkisg> So 0x004FFFF0
[21:48] <LaserJock> anybody have any Edubuntu bugs that they feel *must* be fixed for Jaunty?
[22:49] <stgraber> LaserJock: as in, package we maintain or really "edubuntu" (package list, meta, task, ...) ?