| dtchen | vorian: http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/2008olf.odp | 00:22 |
|---|---|---|
| vorian | thanks dtchen | 00:41 |
| vorian | ScottK: kpov is up up and away | 00:42 |
| vorian | ScottK: what news on bug 323266? | 00:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 323266 in krusader "Update svn snapshot - required for Jaunty" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323266 | 00:43 |
| ScottK | Was I working on that? | 00:43 |
| vorian | yeah, it shows you assigned to it :) | 00:43 |
| vorian | i can pick it up if you like | 00:43 |
| ScottK | Please | 00:44 |
| vorian | you got it | 00:44 |
| * ScottK totally forgot. | 00:44 | |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 00:44 |
| lex79 | ScottK: can you subscribe this? | 01:01 |
| lex79 | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvpnc/+bug/326679 | 01:01 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 326679 in kvpnc "sync-request kvpnc" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:01 |
| vorian | lex79: what are you wanting to do? | 01:04 |
| vorian | meh | 01:04 |
| vorian | lex79: what are you trying to do with that bug? | 01:10 |
| lex79 | vorian: I updated the package | 01:11 |
| lex79 | kvpnc in repository is for kde3 | 01:11 |
| lex79 | this version is works in kde4 | 01:11 |
| vorian | hmmm | 01:12 |
| lex79 | is works -> bad english :) | 01:12 |
| vorian | hehe, me too | 01:12 |
| lex79 | yeah :) | 01:12 |
| vorian | lex79: so it now is made to work with kde4? | 01:14 |
| lex79 | vorian: yes | 01:14 |
| vorian | or it's KDE 3, and works with KDE 4 | 01:14 |
| lex79 | no | 01:14 |
| lex79 | it's kde4 | 01:14 |
| vorian | ok | 01:14 |
| lex79 | and works with kde4 :) | 01:14 |
| vorian | lex79: for the future: use "new upstream release" instead of "sync-request" | 01:15 |
| vorian | sync request is used when we sync a package directly from Debian (unchanged) | 01:15 |
| vorian | secondly | 01:15 |
| vorian | erm, nevermind :) | 01:16 |
| lex79 | vorian: pe3k opened this bug | 01:16 |
| lex79 | no me :) | 01:16 |
| * vorian looks | 01:17 | |
| lex79 | maybe this update, fix this bug: | 01:19 |
| lex79 | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvpnc/+bug/237577 | 01:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 237577 in kvpnc "kvpnc 0.9.0 doest run as regular user" [Undecided,New] | 01:19 |
| vorian | lex79: that is debian specific - (the patch in the package) | 01:20 |
| vorian | lex79: did you test it to see if it solves that bug? | 01:22 |
| lex79 | vorian: yes | 01:22 |
| lex79 | now works great | 01:22 |
| vorian | and does it? :) | 01:22 |
| lex79 | you can build the package and see | 01:23 |
| vorian | All i'm saying, if it closes a bug, you should close the bug in the changelog :) | 01:23 |
| lex79 | yes, but I'm not sure, so I didn't close the bug :) | 01:25 |
| lex79 | in changelog | 01:25 |
| * vorian tries | 01:25 | |
| lex79 | vorian: thanks I send you a kiss from Italy LoL :) | 01:26 |
| vorian | lex79: hmmm | 01:28 |
| vorian | I got a segfault | 01:28 |
| vorian | care to take a closer look at that package? | 01:28 |
| lex79 | uhm in my system works | 01:29 |
| lex79 | You have a segfault when start application? | 01:29 |
| vorian | lex79: and you have to use your sudo password | 01:30 |
| lex79 | I'm trying now and works | 01:30 |
| vorian | hmm, got another | 01:31 |
| lex79 | vorian: when? when it start? | 01:32 |
| vorian | I was using the wizzzzard, creating a ssh connection | 01:32 |
| vorian | You have some obsolete package versions installed. Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs: | 01:33 |
| vorian | libgcc1, libpq5, libasound2, libstdc++6, libpulse0, gcc-4.3-base | 01:33 |
| ghostcube | btw kvpnc crashes if importing an existing cisco profile | 01:44 |
| lex79 | ghostcube: yes, https://gna.org/bugs/?12779 | 01:47 |
| ghostcube | lex79, hmm it doesnt freeze it just get killed here | 01:48 |
| ghostcube | can i run gdb against a super user pid | 01:49 |
| ghostcube | oO | 01:49 |
| lex79 | vorian: the problem is in upstream, I try to build kvpnc from sources and same issue "core dumped" | 01:51 |
| lex79 | I can try to take 0.9.1-rc2 instead 0.9.1 stable | 01:52 |
| lex79 | uhmm no...it's for kde3 | 01:57 |
| ghostcube | lex79, hmm i have a backtrace for the import crash if you want it | 02:03 |
| lex79 | you can also send here: https://gna.org/bugs/?group=kvpnc | 02:07 |
| lex79 | :) | 02:08 |
| * ScottK starts doing plasmoid-foo -> plasma-widget-foo (doing quickaccess first). | 04:34 | |
| * ScottK considers alchohol step 0. | 04:34 | |
| nhandler | ScottK: Are we just renaming them? Or are there more changes that need to be done? | 04:34 |
| ScottK | Renaming source and binary, adding appropriate conflicts/replaces, and adding transitional packages if they existed in Intrepid. | 04:37 |
| nhandler | ScottK: Is there a bug/wiki page to track this? | 04:38 |
| ScottK | nhandler: No. We should probably have one (wiki I would say). | 04:38 |
| nhandler | scottk: I'm about to head to bed, otherwise I would make one. As for the actual packages, I'll try and take care of spellcheck and playwolf (the two I packaged). | 04:40 |
| ScottK | K | 04:40 |
| ScottK | vorian: You still up? | 04:49 |
| rgreening | allo | 04:49 |
| vorian | ScottK: kind of | 04:49 |
| ScottK | Allo. | 04:50 |
| ScottK | Looking for people to dive in and rename stuff. | 04:50 |
| vorian | k | 04:50 |
| vorian | do we have a list? | 04:50 |
| ScottK | I just did quickaccess. | 04:50 |
| vorian | ok | 04:50 |
| ScottK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/116315/ | 04:51 |
| ScottK | vorian: ^^ List | 04:51 |
| ScottK | Less quickaccess it's the output of reverse-build-depends libplasma-dev|grep plasmoid | 04:51 |
| vorian | ScottK: ok, i'll start at the bottom | 04:52 |
| ScottK | Great. | 04:52 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Want some? | 04:52 |
| ScottK | vorian: Did you see nhandler's note about the ones he'd do? | 04:53 |
| vorian | no ... | 04:53 |
| vorian | yes | 04:53 |
| * vorian just scrolled up | 04:53 | |
| ScottK | OK | 04:53 |
| ScottK | Don't do those. | 04:53 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 04:53 |
| rgreening | ScottK: I'm currently working on Kpackagekit fixes | 04:55 |
| ScottK | rgreening: That's definitely more important | 04:55 |
| rgreening | I'm trying to get the "simplified" Add/Remove programs view from Adept_manager/Adept into Kpackagekit. Struggling a bit... but that's mostly due to my C++ rustiness | 04:56 |
| * ScottK hands rgreening a can of oil. | 05:00 | |
| rgreening | ty | 05:00 |
| rgreening | ScottK: know any c++? | 05:00 |
| ScottK | Nope. It's one of the beauties of KDE. I can't actually fix stuff so I don't need to feel guilty. | 05:01 |
| ScottK | It's one reason I was so happy to see Guidance go away. I do know Python, so I could fix that. | 05:01 |
| rgreening | lol | 05:02 |
| ScottK | vorian: My policy for this is no transitional package if it wasn't in intrepid. Users of development releases are supposed to keep up with this stuff. | 05:02 |
| ScottK | vorian: How say you? | 05:02 |
| rgreening | I have two constructors, and I want one to call the other with an extra parameter | 05:02 |
| rgreening | stumped | 05:03 |
| vorian | ScottK: agreed | 05:03 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 05:03 |
| ScottK | vorian: Looks like descriptions will need some adjustment too. | 05:05 |
| ScottK | nhandler: ^^^ | 05:05 |
| vorian | s/plasmoid/plasma widget/ ? | 05:06 |
| ScottK | Yes | 05:08 |
| vorian | plasma-widget-windowslist finished | 05:08 |
| vorian | on to wifi | 05:08 |
| ScottK | Oh man, don't make me race you, I've been drinking. | 05:08 |
| vorian | haha | 05:08 |
| ScottK | vorian: I'm checking for new upstream releases as I go too. | 05:11 |
| vorian | alrighty | 05:13 |
| vorian | wifi done | 05:27 |
| vorian | ScottK: here is the updated list http://paste.ubuntu.com/116329/ | 05:28 |
| * vorian sleeps | 05:28 | |
| ScottK | vorian: Thanks. | 05:29 |
| vorian | no problemo | 05:29 |
| vorian | i have to get ready for a day of but chewing from my boss on the morrow | 05:29 |
| ScottK | Lovely. | 05:30 |
| ScottK | I'd have thought lack of sleep and a hangover would be perfect for that. | 05:31 |
| ScottK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/116332/ is updated even more. | 05:31 |
| * a|wen starts downloading hardy.1 i386 to find out if the oem issues really is a regression | 06:06 | |
| yuriy | rgreening: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/ctors.html#faq-10.3 | 06:07 |
| a|wen | ScottK: apart from oem, which i just need to check is a regression or not, wubi is the only thing missing on i386 | 06:11 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Great. I keep looking for someone with windows .... | 06:21 |
| ScottK | No one confesses to have it. | 06:21 |
| ScottK | Not even the great Vista lover himself. | 06:21 |
| a|wen | yeah, it is not that widespread, he | 06:25 |
| * a|wen confesses to have windows xp on a comp of mine... but it is more than 3500 miles away locked away in a cellar | 06:26 | |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Plasmoid/Plasma-widget rename - http://paste.ubuntu.com/116347/ | ISO testing needed for 8.04.2 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | e-mail Riddell for STICKERS | Feature Freeze Feb 19 - How are we doing? -> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| ScottK | OK. New topic has the status on the plasmoid rename. Somone else's turn. | 06:28 |
| * ScottK is off to bed. | 06:28 | |
| a|wen | nn ScottK | 06:29 |
| Riddell | morning Kubuntu | 09:44 |
| rickspencer3 | morning Mr. Riddell | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | morning everyone :) | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: have you seen the kcometen4 screensaver ? it's a must have, really | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can package it if you're interested | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I've seen amarok sometimes stoping at the end of a song and then unable to play anything... | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | you have to quit and restart | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I didn't have this problem before your last upload... don't know if there is a link or not since I can't trace what happens... | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm on contrib on friday... I think I'll try to work on a starting kubuntu qa process, as we discussed quickly at the UDS | 09:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: never need kcometen4 | 09:59 |
| Riddell | hmm, that's not right | 09:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: never seen kcometen4 | 09:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: also I've not seen amarok stopping at the end of a song, do you have the collection working? | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll put a little package on my ppa :) that's just fancy btw, but it's really very beautifull :) | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah that's inside my collection btw | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it happens quite often.... sometimes it won't even quit and I have to kill the process... | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if you want to test this little screensaver, you can install it from my ppa :) | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm in love with it | 10:56 |
| Riddell | ~twitter update there's a thin line between blending fruit to make a nutricious smoothie and blending fruit to make baby food | 11:38 |
| kubotu | status updated | 11:38 |
| * Nightrose waves @ Riddell and Tonio_ | 11:45 | |
| Tonio_ | hey Nightrose :) | 11:45 |
| Nightrose | how are you Tonio_? | 11:45 |
| Tonio_ | still a bit sick.... but feeling a bit better :) | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: at fosdem arrived with a 39° fever.... | 11:46 |
| Nightrose | meh | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: Riddell took a photo from me sleeping in the middle of a conference :) | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | that was unfair hehe | 11:47 |
| Nightrose | hehe yea seen it | 11:47 |
| Nightrose | fregl and I walked around brussles yesterday before driving back home - that was fun | 11:47 |
| Nightrose | the drive back home not so much | 11:47 |
| Sput | train++ | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 11:48 |
| Nightrose | police stopped us for a control, it was snowing and raining all the time and there were many traffic jams because of accidents on the highway | 11:49 |
| Sput | train++ | 11:49 |
| Sput | :) | 11:49 |
| * Nightrose still wonders why were were stopped by police though | 11:49 | |
| Sput | I bet it took you more than the 4 hours it took me to get from brussels to KA :) | 11:49 |
| * Nightrose stabs Sput | 11:49 | |
| Sput | I also bet you didn't have a restaurant with warm foods and cold beers in walking distance for the whole trip : | 11:50 |
| Sput | :P | 11:50 |
| Nightrose | pffft | 11:50 |
| Nightrose | i had a nice travel companion though :P | 11:50 |
| Nightrose | and only one of them! | 11:50 |
| Sput | well, you could've concentrated much better on each other if one of you didn't have to drive! | 11:50 |
| Nightrose | *lol* | 11:51 |
| Sput | I love traveling between Frankfurt and Cologne with 300 km/h alongside a highway that's clogged with cars :) | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | Sput: since you're there, I've had a lot of question about quassel at work :) | 11:54 |
| Sput | well, best to ask them in #quassel :) | 11:55 |
| Tonio_ | Sput: everyone's impressed, but lots of people noticed an issue with non-existent shortcuts for common tasks (aka ctrl+w -> close buffer...) | 11:55 |
| Sput | hmm, shortcuts need tons of work | 11:55 |
| Tonio_ | Sput: yeah sure, but I don't wanna ping if that's a known issue and being in the work :) if needed to ping, I'll do, of course :) | 11:55 |
| ScottK | vorian: I looked at plasmoid-flickr and I'm a bit confused where you got the update as the upstream page listed in debian/control has version 0.1, but you updated it to 0.3.1? | 11:56 |
| Sput | Tonio_: we'll get to improving shortcuts, not sure when though... | 11:59 |
| * Sime waves at Nightrose | 11:59 | |
| Nightrose | heya Sime :) | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | Sput: perfectly fine :) | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is there a reason we have no phonon-backend-vlc in the archives ? | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: could be usefull for legal reasons in some countries (including france...) | 12:14 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no, although it can't be part of the phonon source package since vlc is in multiverse | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah, but external packaging, even in multiverse, could be usefull | 12:27 |
| Riddell | go ahead | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: testing :) | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: for MS formats support, vlc is the only legal option here for example :) | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and I guess everywhere, btw, since w32codecs is hardly deployable in corp environment :) | 12:28 |
| Sput | or on a amd64 box | 12:28 |
| Riddell | vlc isn't a subscritute for w32codecs, w32codecs is only for stuff where there's no free implementation, if there's a free implementation then it can also be used by xine or mplayer | 12:29 |
| smarter | and there's w64codecs too :p | 12:35 |
| nhandler | For the plasmoid renaming, after modifying the package and uploading, do I have to file a removal request for the old version of the plasmoid? | 12:36 |
| nhandler | scottk: ping | 12:46 |
| === nhandler changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Plasmoid/Plasma-widget rename - http://paste.ubuntu.com/116441/ | ISO testing needed for 8.04.2 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | e-mail Riddell for STICKERS | Feature Freeze Feb 19 - How are we doing? -> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| nhandler | scottk: Is it necessary to file removal requests for the old versions of the plasmoids? | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like the current git is unlikelly to build... I'll try to ping the vlc maintainer... | 13:03 |
| ScottK | nhandler: Yes, but let's get them all done and then make one request. | 13:07 |
| Quintasa1 | nhandler: where I should submit renamed package? | 13:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: about vlc vs xine, I agree with you, xine could read it, but the fact is that there are proprietary formats that only vlc can handle the opensource way... | 13:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: cause xine supports w32codecs and then nobody cares an opensource implementation for those | 13:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm not happy with that, but this is real life in corp env :) | 13:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have to do with what exists, and I'm stick with VLC atm | 13:30 |
| Tonio_ | s/stick/stuck/ | 13:30 |
| Tonio_ | at least vlc is now QT, better than nothing :) | 13:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: a simple example is wma support, how do you do with xine and without w32codecs -> no way... | 13:33 |
| Tonio_ | vlc handles them | 13:34 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: but vlc isnt very stable | 13:37 |
| ghostcube | its still buggy as hell | 13:37 |
| ghostcube | xine works much better | 13:38 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: yep, but for example, when the french parliament wants linux, and wma support, what would you do ? ;) | 13:39 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: and vlc isn't that unstable, we're using it for 2 years and had maybe 5 or 6 bug reports for it | 13:40 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: I wouldn't say you about thunderbird, for example :) | 13:40 |
| ghostcube | lol ok 1:0 for u | 13:40 |
| rgreening | seele, Riddell: I am close to getting a working Add/Remove (simplified) for KpackageKit... very close... | 13:40 |
| jjesse__ | yay | 13:41 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: but it has probs with peg files | 13:41 |
| ghostcube | mpeg | 13:41 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: I'll always use xine on my own, but phonon + vlc is, at the moment, a great opportunity for corp environement, before people switch to open formats | 13:41 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: ok thats true :) | 13:41 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: switching formats is a lot longuer and harder job than switching the OS :) | 13:41 |
| ghostcube | hehe | 13:42 |
| ghostcube | if your pc is fast enough :D | 13:42 |
| Riddell | rgreening: we don't believe you until you supply screenshots :) | 13:42 |
| Tonio_ | and that because for a parliamenter, if linux can't handle a specific format, that's a bug | 13:42 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: sure like politicans always do blaming things they dont really get :D | 13:42 |
| Tonio_ | on the long term, they finally understand the real cause, and tend to understand, which is really good on the politics side, but that's a long, long story | 13:42 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: not only politicians, *normal* users :) | 13:43 |
| ghostcube | oh ok :) | 13:43 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: users just consider opening a file should work by a click | 13:43 |
| rgreening | Riddell: lol | 13:43 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: and they're not wrong imho | 13:43 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: no thats true that vlc can handle it natively | 13:44 |
| ghostcube | but they still need to get the nightly build server back up and running | 13:44 |
| ghostcube | :D | 13:44 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: but vlc UI is bad, so for example phonon-backend-vlc + amarok + kaffeine/dragonplayer | 13:44 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: that would make a legal desktop, a lot more consistent and well integrated | 13:44 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: one thing thats better on vlc is the mozilla plugin cause it works with midori too | 13:44 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: the prob for vlc is the advanced GUI | 13:45 |
| ghostcube | u get lost in this one if you dont know what to do | 13:45 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: and for this web problem, you then have phonon-backend-vlc + konqueror/webkit + kmplayer | 13:45 |
| Tonio_ | and you're done | 13:45 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: now you see my point :) | 13:45 |
| Tonio_ | and still consistent web browsing with a good plugin and a legal engine | 13:45 |
| ghostcube | hmm yep ok makes sense | 13:45 |
| ghostcube | :f | 13:45 |
| ghostcube | :D | 13:45 |
| Tonio_ | but for that we need the backend in the repos, hehehe :) | 13:46 |
| raphink | hi guys | 13:46 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: isnt the vlc backend there i thought its available by apt-cache search oO | 13:46 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: there isn't that many linux desktop in corp environments, and very few people know the real problems in there | 13:46 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: was droped with 4.1 or 4.2 | 13:46 |
| ghostcube | oh | 13:46 |
| Tonio_ | seele: talking about that, I reallize we discussed a potential conf for the next akademy.... would you still be interested in this ? | 13:47 |
| Tonio_ | seele: the present discussion is exactly what I could be talking about :) | 13:47 |
| rgreening | Riddell: here http://imagebin.ca/view/R25FVK.html and here http://imagebin.ca/view/JqVavc.html | 13:47 |
| === jjesse__ is now known as jjesse | ||
| rgreening | Riddell: the empty box on the left in second shot needs to be populated (working that now). | 13:48 |
| rgreening | Riddell: also, wording for Software Management needs to be changed/updated to show two different purposes (Package vs Application) | 13:49 |
| rgreening | seele: ^^ | 13:49 |
| rgreening | believe me now Riddell :) muhahahah | 13:49 |
| === k4v is now known as m4v | ||
| seele | Riddell: not use enough water/yogurt/ice in your smoothie? | 14:09 |
| Riddell | rgreening: yay | 14:10 |
| Riddell | seele: none at all actually | 14:10 |
| rgreening | :P | 14:10 |
| seele | Riddell: that's probably why it was baby food :P | 14:10 |
| Tonio_ | hum... I'm sick of those X crashes... | 14:10 |
| jjesse | my wife has just started making our own baby food for my son.... most of it looks disgusting | 14:11 |
| seele | rgreening: what about Applications and Packages -- Management? or will that be too long? | 14:11 |
| seele | Tonio_: i dont know what you are talking about. what conf? | 14:11 |
| vorian | ScottK: it seems there are two flickr plasmoids :/ | 14:12 |
| rgreening | dunno seele | 14:12 |
| vorian | ScottK: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Flickr+On+Plasma?content=94800 | 14:12 |
| Tonio_ | seele: when we discussed those corp things and problem, you told me it would be very nice giving a talk about that at next akademy :) | 14:12 |
| Tonio_ | seele: sorry I used the bad word s/conference/talk :) | 14:13 |
| Tonio_ | seele: don't you remember ? | 14:13 |
| seele | oh yes, i do, but i meant for you to give that talk :) | 14:13 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I know :) the thing is that I had lots of work recently and couldn't spend time thinking about that :) | 14:14 |
| seele | Tonio_: btw.. i hear the weather sucks in paris. i'm surprised you have power now | 14:14 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I'm sirprised too :) | 14:14 |
| seele | Tonio_: well the call for papers hasn't been released yet so you have plenty of time to think about it :) | 14:14 |
| Tonio_ | seele: great, I'll consider this then, cause the discussion we just had with ghostcube makes me think those issues are sometimes not understood :) | 14:15 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: yeah if u live in germany like me its normal to first of all install th w64codecs | 14:16 |
| ghostcube | :D | 14:16 |
| ghostcube | then start the rest | 14:16 |
| Tonio_ | is that legal ? :) | 14:16 |
| ghostcube | so i dont really have noticed its not always the best to do so | 14:16 |
| ghostcube | Tonio_: yep | 14:16 |
| Tonio_ | how can it be ? the microsoft licence explicitely forbids that... was this point judged in a court ? | 14:17 |
| ghostcube | the only one thats discussed is libdvdcss | 14:17 |
| ghostcube | its not forbidden to use the codecs here | 14:17 |
| Sput | which microsoft license? :P | 14:17 |
| ghostcube | never seen any process talking about | 14:17 |
| Sput | the one I never agreed to? | 14:17 |
| ghostcube | lol | 14:17 |
| Tonio_ | Sput: yeah, that one :) | 14:17 |
| * Sput notes that EULAs are illegal and void in the EU | 14:18 | |
| * jussi01 huggles Sput | 14:18 | |
| Sput | except if explicitly agreed on pre-deal | 14:18 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: I can't imagin using the wma.dll for example is legal anywhere outside of the windows context... | 14:18 |
| Riddell | there's no copying licence | 14:18 |
| ghostcube | hmm no idea but its not illegal here to use it | 14:18 |
| Sput | licenses for use are void anyway | 14:18 |
| Sput | they can only cover copyright | 14:19 |
| Riddell | w32codecs don't have copying licence | 14:19 |
| davmor2 | Riddell, ScottK: all the hardy.2 tests should be finished soon | 14:19 |
| ghostcube | all german linux users first install the w32codecs without you wont be able to watch any web tv here all wmv :D | 14:19 |
| ScottK | vorian: So I guess the package needs to be updated to reflect that one. | 14:19 |
| Sput | Riddell: well, they are published by mplayer, so not a downstream problem, is it? | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the package, but the files in it, at least the MS ones, are covered by the MS one | 14:20 |
| vorian | ScottK: yeah, i'm working on it now since i'm the one that changed it | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we have an advocate at work that looked at that very deeply | 14:20 |
| davmor2 | Sput: I think you'll find that Microsoft would still take you to court if they found you to be in breech of their EULA | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you can use and copy them if : | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | you have paid a Windows licence | 14:20 |
| Sput | davmor2: not the first time they'd lose that one... shrinkwrapped licenses are not valid in the EU | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | AND you are not using 2 copies of the same file | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | so bying windows, not installing it, and use w32codecs, yes that's legal | 14:21 |
| Sput | as soon as you have bought something, there is no way for the seller to impose additional restrictions on the deal | 14:21 |
| Tonio_ | as long as you have a windows licence per computer running w32codecs. | 14:21 |
| ScottK | davmor2: Great. I really appreciate all the help. | 14:21 |
| ScottK | vorian: OK. | 14:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: same with ie4linux for example.... that's illegal except if you have a windows licence.... that sucks, I know :) | 14:22 |
| Riddell | Sput: if the files don't have a copying licence of course its a downstream problem | 14:22 |
| ghostcube | davmor2: microsoft cant do anything inside EU they arent allowed to take you to court | 14:23 |
| ghostcube | even if you miswatch eula and use the libraries on linux | 14:23 |
| ghostcube | the MS Eula is pure not accepted in EU | 14:23 |
| Sput | Riddell: hmm true, mplayer seems to not add anything to their files | 14:23 |
| Tonio_ | ghostcube: that's probably true in germany but not in france :) | 14:28 |
| ghostcube | yes thats true too lol | 14:28 |
| ghostcube | :D | 14:28 |
| ghostcube | but i know how to get an french win 98 to login as admin rofl | 14:28 |
| ghostcube | just change the speach | 14:28 |
| ghostcube | :D | 14:28 |
| ghostcube | its not allowed to crypt the passes | 14:28 |
| ghostcube | :D | 14:28 |
| ghostcube | something strange isnt it :) | 14:29 |
| ghostcube | i think the french pc politic isnt the best they ever done in the past haha | 14:31 |
| Riddell | ghostcube: there's nothing difficult or locale specific about w32codecs, they're proprietry software without a copying licence | 14:35 |
| shtylman | will guidance-power-manager still be in jaunty? and if so, with whom do I speak about a proposed change I have to the battery display? Thanks in advance | 14:37 |
| ghostcube | Riddell: i know was just joking a bit | 14:37 |
| ghostcube | :) | 14:37 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: jaunty will use powerdevil by default | 14:47 |
| JontheEchidna | shtylman: guidance will still be available for install, but it won't be installed by default | 14:47 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: afaik guidance-power-manager is still in universe, but due to the change, I'll probably stay poorly maintained in the future... | 14:47 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: will powerdevel also be the frontend? or just the backend? I am reading on kde-apps that it will feature a plasmoid "soon", where can I find more information? | 14:48 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: the plasmoid is already in 4.2 and works like a charm :) | 14:49 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: I have 4.2 installed, what would the plasmoid be called? cause I have 4.2 installed over ibex and guidance still keeps popping up | 14:50 |
| Tonio_ | battery monitor | 14:51 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: I hacked at guidance to change the battery display from the default (3 discrete bars) to a continuous display, and want to see if the new plasmoid can do the same | 14:51 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: the plasmoid does it ;) | 14:52 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: excellent news! | 14:52 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 14:52 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: so I popped open my laptop to try the battery monitor instead, and it too seems to break the battery full indication into sections versus being continuous (is this in a new version that isn't out yet)? | 15:03 |
| davmor2 | Riddell, ScottK: test done :) | 15:04 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: it has 4 bars, but the gradiant of the bar is proportional to the battery level | 15:05 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: I see, thats not very obvious to me, and I could easily see others missing it. Is that plasmoid writting in python like guidance was? or something else? and where could I grab the source for it (kde repos?), I would like to make it be a continuous battery display. Thanks | 15:07 |
| Sput | powerdevil++ | 15:09 |
| Sput | also powerdevil can display a percentage | 15:09 |
| Sput | on hover or always | 15:10 |
| shtylman | Sput: yea I know about that, but I would like to make it have a continuous battery display as well..good for small icons where the percent text isn't as easy to see | 15:10 |
| shtylman | The battery percentage is inherently contnuous, at least integer step, and I don't see a benefit to breaking it up into thirds or fourths, that just hides the true information (imho) | 15:11 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: it's C++ | 15:12 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: cool, I know that too (even better than python) :) | 15:12 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: see with upstream first if he is interested in the change :) | 15:14 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: how would I go about doing that? is there a particular person I want to talk to? Also, I am going to make the change for myself first (just to have), and can send along a patch to whomever as an example, would that be a better thing to do? | 15:15 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: the applet developer, probably :) | 15:17 |
| Tonio_ | apt-get source powerdevil and look in the sources what is the maintainer e-mail address | 15:17 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: thanks a bunch...will do | 15:18 |
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| Tonio_ | shtylman: you're welcome | 15:18 |
| smarter | JontheEchidna: what's that plasmoid rename thingy? | 15:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thinking about the topic, should we rename all plasmoid* packages to plasma-widget* ? thinking about pnm for that :) | 15:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes that's what the topic says | 15:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, since some of them were only existing in jaunty, should we provide the old name or not ? | 15:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not needed for intrepid -> jaunty, but for our users,could be usefull I think, no ? | 15:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: or do we want a standard conflicts/replace ? | 15:24 |
| Riddell | shrug | 15:27 |
| Riddell | I probably wouldn't bother | 15:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, that was my first plan, but I wanted to be sure about you on that point :) | 15:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll ping you when plasma-widget-network-manager wil be in NEW | 15:31 |
| scarabeus | hi, do you ship any patches for kopete that add some functionality? | 15:31 |
| scarabeus | we in gentoo have this bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258428 | 15:32 |
| ubottu | bugs.gentoo.org bug 258428 in KDE "kde-base/kopete-4.2.0 missing menu items" [Normal,New] | 15:32 |
| scarabeus | and i dunno if we forget something | 15:32 |
| scarabeus | or it is that you add something special | 15:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, we probably don't want our users to complain there is a conflict with the old one so I'll keep a conflict for couple of weeks in the package, waiting for people to install it | 15:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the jaunty users I mean... | 15:39 |
| JontheEchidna | scarabeus: I think we ship a pretty much untouched kopete, no patches aside from a string change in the "now listening" preferences | 15:41 |
| scarabeus | JontheEchidna: mhm, thanks, that means there is some magic elsewhere :] | 15:42 |
| a|wen | scarabeus: in the help menu item there is some items pointing to launchpad, that you probably don't have ... but apart from that no | 15:42 |
| a|wen | scarabeus: he seems to be talking about the shortcut configuration, and that is an upstream item | 15:43 |
| scarabeus | hm, we ship it unchanged i will ask for screenie and see what he means exactly then | 15:44 |
| scarabeus | thanks very much for points | 15:44 |
| rgreening | Riddell, seele, Tonio_: getting close now. I have it displaying icons (not centered/sized properly, but there at least). http://imagebin.ca/view/swfd6LbN.html | 15:52 |
| Riddell | rgreening: wow | 15:53 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: superb work :) | 15:53 |
| ghostcube | [ot] songbird coders are a bit strange oO | 15:54 |
| ghostcube | :D | 15:54 |
| rgreening | ty both. It's getting there.... Hopefully today/tomorrow to have a patch ready for submission. | 15:54 |
| rgreening | my C++ is slowly coming back to me :P | 15:55 |
| shtylman | Tonio_: fyi .. the plasmoid code is in the kdebase-workspace source package, not the powerdevil package. The battery plasmoid and powerdevil are a part of kde now so it seems. | 15:56 |
| Tonio_ | shtylman: which makes sense :) | 15:57 |
| ghostcube | hmm question if i build compiz++ with cmake it will detect the qmake by default if alternative is set correct ? | 15:57 |
| * Sput huggles jussi01 back | 15:58 | |
| smarter | like any of use actually uses compiz++ when we have our shiny kwin :p | 15:58 |
| jussi01 | :) | 15:59 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| rgreening | seele, Riddell, Tonio_: I was thinkng on moving the text from under to icon to a tooltip instead in the package categories. thoughts? or should I just leave it as it and center the icons? | 16:02 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: hum... I'd keep the text... | 16:03 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: ok, then off to center. | 16:03 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: you can wait for the expert's opinion :) I'm not a usability specialist | 16:04 |
| rgreening | hehe | 16:05 |
| agateau | rgreening: the second list needs more horizontal space | 16:11 |
| agateau | it should center then | 16:11 |
| rgreening | agateau: ty. I need to set proper minimum and expanding attributes in the .ui | 16:12 |
| agateau | yes | 16:15 |
| Riddell | rgreening: the text is important there, you can't work out what it means from the icon alone, I'd leave it under the icon, | 16:15 |
| rgreening | Riddell: tooltip could provide, but I'll leave under icon as suggested. | 16:16 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I'm getting incomplete Language Support on smoketest | 16:18 |
| Riddell | rgreening: relying on tooltips never works | 16:20 |
| rgreening | Riddell, Tonio_: who is proficient in Qt .ui file settings? I need some assistance I think | 16:20 |
| Riddell | rgreening: have you got this installing and removing software yet? | 16:21 |
| rgreening | Riddell: oh, that all works (as I re-used the existing code). WHat it doesn't do yet is simplify the right hand side where package selection occurs. That's next. I need to read the app-install-data desktop files for applications/categories and show only those. | 16:22 |
| Riddell | rgreening: ok great | 16:23 |
| rgreening | :) | 16:24 |
| seele | rgreening: you mean in the left navigation? | 16:24 |
| rgreening | Riddell: This is actually a lot easier that I thought it would be :P | 16:24 |
| rgreening | seele: wrt which question? :) cause I said a lot :P | 16:24 |
| rgreening | seele: the icon text? | 16:25 |
| seele | yes | 16:25 |
| seele | sorry, i'm in between classes. i can't pay atention to irc | 16:25 |
| rgreening | seele: yes. In the app categories, text is under the icons. Is that what you prefer? | 16:25 |
| rgreening | seele: I assume yes. | 16:25 |
| seele | yes | 16:26 |
| rgreening | seele: ok. | 16:29 |
| agateau | rgreening: i can probably help with .ui | 16:29 |
| rgreening | agateau: ok, I'll paste my .ui.. 1 sec | 16:30 |
| rgreening | agateau: I can't seem to paste the file to paste.ubuntu.com.. 1 sec | 16:35 |
| agateau | no pb | 16:36 |
| rgreening | agateau: ok, try this... http://pastebin.ca/raw/1332859 | 16:37 |
| rgreening | This is the Application Icon widget: <widget class="QListWidget" name="groupsLW"> | 16:38 |
| rgreening | I need this to resize tightly around the Icons/Text | 16:38 |
| rgreening | and let the package list to the right of it expand agateau | 16:38 |
| davmor2 | Has konqueror slowed down? planet.ubuntu.com seems to take ages to fully render | 16:39 |
| agateau | ok | 16:39 |
| smarter | rgreening: do you plan to backport your qt4.5 packages to intrepid? | 16:39 |
| smarter | rgreening: I'm not really motivated to upgrade to jaunty atm :p | 16:39 |
| * agateau looks at the .ui | 16:40 | |
| rgreening | smarter: I'm not sure what the plan for Qt4.5 is now. KDE Plasma team does not want anyone to use KDE 4.2 with Qt4.5.. apparantly issues in Plasma | 16:40 |
| smarter | rgreening: yup but the trolls want them to use it :p | 16:40 |
| smarter | rgreening: I think we'll put it in backports | 16:40 |
| smarter | with 4.2.x | 16:40 |
| smarter | and/or kubuntu-experimental | 16:40 |
| rgreening | I am planning on finishing my build (merge with debian changes) and then I can bp to Intrepid easy enough. | 16:41 |
| smarter | cool | 16:41 |
| smarter | agateau: thanks for Gwenview! :P | 16:41 |
| agateau | smarter: my pleasure :) | 16:42 |
| smarter | (also, you on this channel probably increases the rate of French people here of 33% :p) | 16:42 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: I am really liking packagekit | 16:42 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: hehe | 16:43 |
| rgreening | mon dieu. ce n'est possible, nes pas? | 16:43 |
| rgreening | my french is really terrible, so I add on 0.001% | 16:43 |
| smarter | rgreening: :D | 16:43 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: :D | 16:43 |
| agateau | hehe | 16:45 |
| rgreening | eu sait, eu fala Portugues se faz favor | 16:45 |
| rgreening | hehe | 16:45 |
| agateau | rgreening: I remember writing some code to compute the minimum width of a QListView in icon mode | 16:45 |
| agateau | I need to dig it | 16:45 |
| rgreening | OMG. that would be cool | 16:46 |
| rgreening | agateau: though, shouldn't it be achievable via the ui? | 16:46 |
| agateau | rgreening: unfortunately, I didn't manage to get it to work reliably from the ui | 16:46 |
| rgreening | ah | 16:47 |
| rgreening | me neither it would seem | 16:47 |
| agateau | rgreening: I found it | 16:48 |
| agateau | http://trac.qutecom.org/browser/libs/qtutil/src/WidgetUtils.cpp | 16:48 |
| agateau | you get the width with computeListViewMinimumWidth() | 16:48 |
| agateau | and set it with setFixedWidth() | 16:48 |
| agateau | oups, the FIXME probably suggest some work | 16:48 |
| rgreening | agateau: so I only need the compute function right | 16:50 |
| agateau | yes | 16:50 |
| rgreening | ok, I can try that | 16:50 |
| agateau | about the FIXME: you should only need to call option.decorationPosition = QStyleOption::Top | 16:51 |
| agateau | err, QStyleOptionViewItem | 16:51 |
| smarter | heh, when I heard "minimum width of a QListView", I thought malloc(sizeof((QListView)), I must be doing too much low level stuff :p | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 16:54 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, hello, do you want to ship a later version of kpackagekit? | 16:54 |
| agateau | :) | 16:54 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: well, latest versions didn't compile yet.... | 16:54 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: is that better with the latest packagekit upload ? | 16:54 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: rgreening is writting patches atm, so we'll probably wait for the patches to be finished, since we'll have to port them, I guess :) | 16:55 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, kpackagekit actually follows the 0.4 branch of PackageKit. but we should stay with 0.3.x | 16:55 |
| Tonio_ | yeah, so we'll probably stay with that one... | 16:56 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'll wait for rgreening patches to be over and then will push the package and update bzr | 16:56 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, there have been some invasive changes quite late in the 0.3.x release series, since fedora has got a different release cycle | 16:56 |
| rgreening | Tonio_, glatzor: I should have my stuff done today/tomorrow if all goes well. | 16:57 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: well kpackagekit just seems to work decently with our current 0.3 version... any problem you noticed/are affraid of ? | 16:57 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, I wrote to Trever about this and I think we could backport the changes in libpackagekit-qt | 16:58 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'm fine with this as long as this doesn't break kpackagekit :) | 16:58 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: but a test is always fine | 16:58 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: what are the changes exactly ? | 16:59 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: my only concern is that since kpackagekit is now our default manager... and the svn doesn't follow 0.3.x.... well we have to take care at not breaking everything :) | 17:01 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, It was just an offer that we could backport changes of packagekit-qt from the 0.4 so that you could update kpackagekit to the current svn version | 17:02 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, I won't introduce any patches by myself :) | 17:02 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: ah :) I thought you were talking about recent changes in the .3 series... | 17:03 |
| glatzor | perhaps I was a little bit unclear about this | 17:03 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: well, as long as it works, and doesn't lack any major feature, maybe it's fine like this, no ? | 17:03 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, it depends totally on you. | 17:03 |
| === rickspencer31 is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'll not decide this myself, alone :) | 17:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what's your feeling about this ? | 17:04 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, If you don't need any changes in the latest kpackagekit svn we can just keep things as they are | 17:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: keep as it is since it works and seems stable, or try to backport libpackagekit-qt, and use a recent svn snapshot ? | 17:04 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: well what we need right now is not on svn, it's mostly UI cleaning and usability stuff, that we'll try to get commited later :) | 17:05 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: but thanks for keeping in touch and taking care about us :) | 17:05 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: we have quite a few svn snaps and experimental things in kubuntu jaunty right now :) | 17:05 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: better not changing what works well, imho :) | 17:06 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, fine. | 17:06 |
| ScottK | davmor2: Outstanding. | 17:07 |
| ScottK | If anyone wants to write a Kubuntu 8.04.2 release announcement, feel free. If not, I'll get to it later today. | 17:21 |
| === Quintasa1 is now known as Quintasan | ||
| jussi01 | the links on the iso testing site to the cd downlods for jaunty are borked | 17:46 |
| Riddell | we're not testing jaunty CDs currently | 17:47 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: Ahh ok then :) | 17:48 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: how is todays daily, do you know? installable? | 17:49 |
| davmor2 | jussi01: Fine ish | 17:49 |
| jussi01 | davmor2: ok, Ill give it a try then :) | 17:50 |
| a|wen | ScottK: got to test oem on a hardy.1 now; same issues, so i have seen no regressions | 18:01 |
| === rickspencer31 is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| rgreening | anyone here have an nVidia card using Xorg 1.5 (like in intrepid)? | 18:26 |
| Quintasan | Where should I submit renamed plasma packages? To REVU? | 18:53 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: revu is good yes | 18:54 |
| Riddell | then poke this channel | 18:54 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Perfect. | 18:54 |
| a|wen | so 8.04.2 looks good to go | 18:55 |
| ScottK | Yep. Just need to write up a release announcement. | 18:55 |
| a|wen | thats needed | 18:56 |
| smarter | what's that rename thingy? | 18:57 |
| ScottK | smarter: Upstream likes widget and Debian never liked plasmoid, so in agreement with Debian to follow the same naming scheme we are doing plasmoid-foo -> plasma-wdiget-foo on all the current plasmoid packages. | 19:00 |
| smarter | okay | 19:00 |
| * smarter changes plasmoid-xbar | 19:00 | |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 19:01 |
| * smarter would have liked to be notified of it somehow :p | 19:01 | |
| Quintasan | Riddell: poke :3 | 19:04 |
| ScottK | smarter: Writing kubuntu-devel is on my TODO. Just haven't gotten to it yet. | 19:05 |
| smarter | ok | 19:05 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: got a URL? | 19:05 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: hm? url to the package? nope | 19:05 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: did you upload to revu? | 19:07 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: yeah, using dput | 19:07 |
| Riddell | well let me know what URL it appears at | 19:07 |
| Quintasan | ok | 19:07 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-applet-flickr But it seems I've done something wrong because it didn't upload the orig.tar.gz | 19:10 |
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| Riddell | don't we already have that uploaded? | 19:10 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It'll need to be rerolled for the new name. | 19:12 |
| Riddell | I'm sure I just accepted it under the new name | 19:12 |
| ScottK | Oh | 19:12 |
| * ScottK goes back to what he was doing. | 19:13 | |
| Riddell | http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-flickr | 19:13 |
| Quintasan | I checked the paste that JontheEchidna posted... | 19:14 |
| Riddell | a pastebin sdeems the wrong medium for that | 19:17 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: looks like, are there any packages left for renaming? | 19:18 |
| cbr | what's a good music player apart from amarok? | 19:19 |
| Riddell | sorry Quintasan, SEEMS LIKE A WASTED EFFORT :( | 19:19 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Not wasted for me, I'm still new to packaging so I consider it as a practice :) | 19:20 |
| Quintasan | lol | 19:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It would be better in a wiki page, but it was late and we were tired. | 19:24 |
| * seele oggles at Riddell's caps yelling | 19:27 | |
| Riddell | my server is going mad | 19:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I fiddled the seeds for plasmoid-quickaccess -> plasma-widget-quickaccess. I left plasmoid-quickaccess (transitional package) in supported. | 19:30 |
| Riddell | thanks | 19:31 |
| ScottK | No problem. | 19:31 |
| * raphink wonders if there is a plasmoid to embed flash apps directly (swf) | 19:31 | |
| Quintasan | vorian: ping | 19:33 |
| smarter | raphink: video plasmoid with the right phonon backend? | 19:35 |
| raphink | smarter: it's not for a video | 19:35 |
| smarter | oh, ok | 19:35 |
| raphink | just a flash thingy that I use on webpages and would be cool on my desktop | 19:35 |
| raphink | http://www.biblegateway.com/usage/votd/votd.swf | 19:35 |
| raphink | if I could embed that on my desktop, that would be great | 19:35 |
| raphink | maybe a general HTML widget | 19:36 |
| smarter | yup | 19:36 |
| smarter | and qt4.5 | 19:36 |
| raphink | ok, so I should wait for Qt4.5 to make its way into KDE :) | 19:37 |
| raphink | thanks for the answer smarter | 19:37 |
| smarter | you're welcome ;) | 19:37 |
| smarter | yes, 4.5 is required for netscape plugins support, like flash | 19:38 |
| raphink | ok | 19:39 |
| vorian | Quintasan: pong | 19:43 |
| Quintasan | vorian: have you checked the skim error I told about? | 19:43 |
| vorian | Quintasan: i have not | 19:44 |
| Arby | Riddell: I'm looking at scpk again. I think we should hide the 'New Network Printer' and 'New Special Printer' buttons | 19:44 |
| Arby | do you agree? | 19:44 |
| vorian | i will be able to tomorrow | 19:44 |
| vorian | sorry | 19:44 |
| Arby | Riddell They don't currently do anything | 19:45 |
| Quintasan | vorian: no problem :) | 19:45 |
| cbr | is there a sane way to get global shortcut keys for rhythmbox in kde? | 19:48 |
| ScottK | Anyone with KDE 4.1 and a local printer that could verify Bug #318866? | 19:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 318866 in kdeutils "printer-applet does not display when new printers get configured" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318866 | 19:53 |
| ScottK | I'm pretty sure that's the last step needed before we move 4.1.4 to -updates. | 19:53 |
| Quintasan | hmm how do I force a rebuild in PPA? | 19:58 |
| ScottK | If it failed to build, there's a web U/I for it. | 20:11 |
| ScottK | If it built, you need to upload a new revision. | 20:11 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| Quintasan | ScottK: thanks | 20:20 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: The text in https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ still talks about Hardy, but we are supplying Intrepid CDs ... | 20:48 |
| * ScottK is doing a 8.04.2 release annoucement. | 20:52 | |
| Tm_T | ScottK: thanks <3 | 20:52 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: you'll have to bug the sysadmins, I only have access to the text on www.kubuntu.org | 21:04 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 21:04 |
| ScottK | OK folks, feel free to mark on this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Kubuntu/ReleaseAnnouncement.2 | 21:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ | 21:34 |
| * ScottK heads out. | 21:34 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: If no one complains and you like that, then I'd say release. | 21:34 |
| === Riddelll is now known as Riddell | ||
| === thunders1ruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| claydoh | ScottK or Riddell: re https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Kubuntu/ReleaseAnnouncement.2 | 22:53 |
| claydoh | 8.04.2 is listed as LTS, do we need to change that? | 22:53 |
| ScottK-palm | claydoh: Yes we do need to remove anf LTS reference as well as Ubuntu/Kubuntu (I'm sure I missed some). | 23:18 |
| ScottK-palm | claydoh: Please edit. | 23:18 |
| rgreening | Riddell: k-d-s needs old amarok removed from favorites and new amarok added. Just did an intstall on a friends and it was the old shortcut | 23:56 |
| nhandler | Is the paste.ubuntu.com entry for the plasmoid renaming still up-to-date? If so, unless there are any objections, I'll take care of the rest right now | 23:57 |
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