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sylvainHello09:56
sylvainI have a question about milestones and series.09:56
sylvainWe used to not use series, but would like now.09:56
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sylvainSo I created one, but I have all my milestones in the 'trunk' series (the default of my project)09:57
sylvainthere is any way that I can *move* a milestone between a series ?09:57
adeuringsylvain: I don't know myself, but I'll ask other LP developers10:09
sylvainthanks10:13
jpdsAnyone know why http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~do-plugins/do/do-plugins keeps redirecting me to the launchpad home page?12:00
jpdsAh, someone got the URL wrong.12:03
luisbgI just accepted a merge proposal to a code branch of mine, but in that branch the commits of the proposal don't appear. what do I have to do to merge that proposed branch to mine?12:50
domasbzr merge; bzr push :)12:51
luisbgdomas, I have to do it in my command line12:51
luisbgnot through launchpad?12:51
luisbgdomas, thanks btw :)12:51
domaslaunchpad merge tracking is just to have kind of audit trail12:52
domasas far as I understand it :)12:52
domasmerges usually have conflict resolutions and such12:52
luisbgI see12:52
domasand launchpad doesn't seem to have web interface for that12:52
luisbgdomas, I did:12:54
luisbgbzr merge lp:...12:54
luisbgbzr status12:54
luisbgpending merges: ...12:54
luisbgbzr push12:55
luisbgNo new revisions to push12:55
luisbg:?12:55
andrea-bsluisbg: you should commit before pushing12:55
luisbgandrea-bs, ahhh12:55
domas%)12:56
domasyes12:56
domascommit would be helpful12:56
luisbghmmm... so now all the commits in the proposal branch12:57
luisbgappear as one in mine12:57
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andrea-bsluisbg: yes, but you can use `bzr commit --author="Someone <email@address>"`12:58
luisbgandrea-bs, oops... to late for that :)12:58
luisbgwould've liked it to give him credit12:58
andrea-bsluisbg: bzr uncommit ;)12:58
domasye, uncommit :)12:58
luisbgooh didn't knew that one12:58
luisbgeven after the push?12:58
beunoluisbg, uncommit, and then push --overwrite12:59
domasmy biggest problem usually is aggregating commit notes from merge into my commit message12:59
luisbgdomas, yeah12:59
luisbghey beuno :)12:59
beunohiya luisbg!13:00
luisbg:)13:00
beunoluisbg, it may interest you to take a peak at: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/user-guide/index.html#sharing-with-peers13:01
luisbgbeuno, thanks!13:03
luisbgdomas, andrea-bs, thanks also :)13:03
andrea-bsluisbg: you're welcome :)13:03
luisbg:)13:03
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jcastrobarry: happy birthday!14:21
barryjcastro: thanks man!14:22
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vadi2How long to translation imports for the first time normally take? One project I suggested to use lp for translations and would like to translate is taking 5 days to import15:52
henningevadi2: pelase tell me the name of the import15:53
henningevadi2: the project, I mean15:53
vadi2https://translations.launchpad.net/sopcast-player/+imports15:53
bwkleinHello, I am curious if I can put a software project on Launchpad that is Public Domain.15:58
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Spadsbwklein: I notice that you appear to be connecting from a US federal agency, and when you say "Public Domain" you are more likely than most to genuinely mean it :)16:00
bwkleinYes, I know what it is ans how it applies to me.16:01
bwkleinand16:01
beunobac, ^16:01
bwkleinWe have an open source project that is Public Domain, and are looking for various services to host it.16:01
beunobwklein, if it's open source, then it's all good16:02
bwkleinMost require the project to fit into a handful of Licenses, but usually there is not a choice for Federal Gov't works.16:02
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Spadsbeuno: there's no license for federal government works because the US federal government can't hold copyright16:03
beunoah, interesting16:03
* Spads ran into this when doing work for the NPS once16:03
bwkleinSo, when setting up a project, I would not have to select what License the project is released under?16:03
bwkleinSpads is right...16:03
beunobwklein, you do have to specify it, but I think you can say "other"16:04
beunobac will know, he's around here somewhere16:04
bwkleinhmmm...16:04
bwkleinok16:04
* bac looks16:05
bacbwklein: you can just choose 'Public Domain'16:05
bwkleinIt is an option?16:06
bacbwklein: yes16:06
bwkleinThat is great and unusual.16:06
bacbwklein: there is also a text field where you can add any additional information you wish.16:06
bacbwklein: just please don't add extra text that severely modifies the license you pick.16:07
bwkleinAlso, what are the limitations for a project in terms of size and number of members in the team?16:07
bwkleinUsually the additional text would be from our standard Gov't Disclaimer.16:07
bwkleinhttp://fire.nist.gov/fds/disclaimer.html16:07
bacbwklein: some resources, like the size of PPAs, are limited.  for most things, like team members, there are no limits16:08
bwkleinbac: Sorry, can you expand PPA's?16:08
bacbwklein: if you want to just put a link to that page it would be fine16:09
bwkleinThat would work for us.16:09
bacbwklein: PPAs are 'personal package archives'.16:09
vadi2henninge: any ideas?16:09
bachttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA16:09
henningevadi2: your template is not named .pot, which is confusing.16:10
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vadi2well, first time heh16:10
henningevadi2: I can change that during aproval, though, if you change it locally, too.16:10
bacbwklein: thanks for your interest in launchpad.  we are very happy to host your project.  please contact me if you have any issues getting started.16:10
vadi2henninge: ok16:10
bwkleinbac: Right now we are using Google Code Project Hosting.16:10
henningevadi2: I have to make one more check, hang on.16:10
bwkleinBut there may be some problem in the future with our selection of MIT License, which was only selected to satisfy the GCPH sign-up process.16:11
bwkleinbac: I will look through the site and see how it might work for us and if I have any more questions.16:12
bwkleinThank you all for your time and help.16:12
bacbwklein: no problem.  glad i could help.16:13
henningevadi2: are you the uploader?16:17
vadi2nuh16:18
vadi2I'm the guy who told the uploader to upload16:18
henningevadi2: or who is flyguy9716:18
vadi2the project maker16:18
henningevadi2: ;-)16:18
henningevadi2: ok, so he is doing both the google and the launchpad project, right?16:19
vadi2mmm yeah16:19
henningevadi2: ok, I approved the import, will be imported shortly. Good luck with the translations!16:20
vadi2thanks :)16:20
thekornhi, does anyone know when the Web UI of staging.lp.net will be updated?16:31
thekorncurrently edge is on r7731 and staging is like 60 revisions behind16:31
thekornproble is that edge has some blingbling YUI things in the subscriptions portlet which breaks python-launchpad-bugs16:32
thekornI always thought that such things would be added to staging first16:33
GoundyI created a branch on launchpad using bazaar, now I want to assign it to my development team and not to myself16:44
GoundyIs that possible ?16:44
Goundyhmm how to delete a branch first? :/16:52
adeuringGoundy: deleting a branch is easy: clock on the trash can icon to the right of the branch name16:53
Goundyadeuring okay and do you know how to do it through bazaar ?16:54
adeuringGoundy: I'm not sure if this is possible...16:58
Goundyadeuring yep you're right16:59
Goundyadeuring I've a last question :)16:59
adeuringGoundy: goo ahead, but I'm not a bzr guru ;)17:00
Goundywell related to launchpad17:00
GoundyI've a serie called: trunk17:00
Goundyit contains a main branch17:00
Goundymainline*17:00
GoundyI want to add a new branch to that serie17:00
Goundybut doesn't really work17:00
Goundyhttps://code.launchpad.net/aures17:00
Goundyand I did:  bzr branch website  lp:~goundy/trunk/website17:01
Goundyresult: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~goundy/trunk/website": No such project: trunk17:01
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Goundyoupse17:01
adeuringGoundy: you must specify the project name before the series, like so:17:01
adeuring~goudy/aures/trunk/17:02
Goundyadeuring it says: Cannot create branch at '/~goundy/aures/trunk/website'17:02
Goundy:/17:02
adeuringGoundy: what is "website"? a part of your bzr project, or another branch?17:03
Goundyadeuring it's a new branch that I just initiated on my machine17:03
Goundyand I'm trying to create it on the repo17:04
adeuringThe you can push it to ~goudy/aures/website17:04
Goundyadeuring i know I already did this17:04
Goundybut I want it to have the same serie17:04
Goundywell adeuring nevermind man and thank you very much I'll just do it that way17:05
Goundyhey what the hell: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~auresdev/aures/website/".17:06
GoundyoO17:06
GoundyI just created it through launchpad UI17:06
domasyou didn't push anything to it17:07
domasyou just registered, you didn't actually create it17:07
Goundydomas damn I'm so nooby noob :-)17:08
domasthats ok!17:08
adeuringthekorn: we have some serious problem updating staing at present. To quote kiko: " abel, tell him staging had a run-in with a box of mescaline and is currently swimming naked in the pond in central park"17:10
Goundythank guys all's okay :)17:10
Goundydomas hmmm am wondering... Is it possible to delete a serie and keep the branch that's in it?17:20
GoundyI get it I have just to delete my serie17:21
Goundy:-)17:21
Goundythanks17:21
Goundydamn I've no idea where to kick out a serie hmmm17:22
Goundygotta go ;)17:25
Goundysee you17:25
thekorn_adeuring, I'm not sure I got your complete answer to my question before my connection died, but thanks for investigating17:34
adeuringthekorn_: no there wasn't anything more -- sorry, I can give you any date when staging will be again updated :(17:35
thekorn_adeuring, ok, no problem17:35
domasGoundy: of course17:38
Goundyback17:38
Goundydomas I just understood how it works17:38
Goundydomas but something weird. The lp help says: A serie has its own brancheS17:38
GoundyBut I can assign only ONE branch to a serie17:38
GoundyIs that normal ?17:39
domasdocumentation bug then17:39
domasGoundy: I'm very fresh launchpad user myself :)17:39
domasthough have tested probably nearly all features :)17:39
Goundydomas ew I thought you were a developer :P17:40
GoundyOkay okay... Thank you very much ;)17:40
domasGoundy: https://launchpad.net/~domas-mituzas :)17:40
Goundydamn17:41
Goundydomas MySQL Senior Support Engineer at Sun Microsystems17:41
Goundyyou really ROCK !17:41
GoundyCan I have a job there ? :(17:41
GoundyI dream to work inside Sun Microsystems !17:41
domasyou didn't look at stock lately, did you? :)17:41
Goundynot really17:41
domasit is fun place to work17:41
Goundydomas I end my studies this year !17:42
GoundyI hope I'll get a nice job :D17:42
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Goundywell I have to move for moment I'll be back in 30 minutes17:43
Goundysee you ;)17:43
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AlexC_morning19:26
AlexC_how long does it normally take for translation files to be accecpted?19:26
MTecknologyAlexC_: depends on who needs to accept it19:27
MTecknologybeuno: hi19:27
AlexC_hum, well is 6 days quick/slow?19:28
beunoMTecknology, howdy19:28
Ursinhadanilos, ^19:28
MTecknologyAm I supposed to get karma for blueprints?19:28
beunoMTecknology, tons of it, yes19:29
UrsinhaMTecknology, yes, why?19:29
MTecknologyAlexC_: it all depends, if the person that approves it is on vacation, it could take a long long time. or some people get to it within an hour.19:29
MTecknologyI'm not seeing my karma for blueprints listed here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~mtecknology/+karma19:30
UrsinhaMTecknology, when did you create the blueprints?19:30
MTecknologytwo days ago I think19:30
AlexC_=\ should really be more automated, imo - such a ball ache currently19:30
UrsinhaMTecknology, hmm19:30
MTecknologyUrsinha: nope, only one day19:31
UrsinhaMTecknology, iirc, the karma calculator runs once a day19:32
MTecknologyI approved it 23 hours ago19:32
MTecknologyI kinda rushed that one through, but I like how they work and I want to start using them19:32
matsubarabug 28332319:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283323 in blueprint "Launchpad do not award karma for registering blueprints" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28332319:33
matsubaraI confirmed it a long time ago but Curtis said this is probably fixed19:33
matsubaraso, I'm not sure anymore19:34
MTecknologymatsubara: Specification Tracking is blueprints?19:36
matsubaraMTecknology: yes19:36
MTecknologystaging is kinda cool - the big demo background19:37
MTecknologyheh.... I'm starting to become most active in Launchpad itself19:41
MTecknologymatsubara: any guess when that will get looked at again?19:45
matsubaraMTecknology: don't know. can you comment in the bug report pointing to the blueprint you registered that didn't award you any karma?19:52
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MTecknologymatsubara: done19:53
matsubarathanks MTecknology19:55
MTecknologyhope there's nothing that's actually wrong with it and it's just a time thing, but it seems like it should have updated by now19:55
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MTecknologywow - blueprints are cool....20:24
MTecknologythe way dependencies work are nice20:24
MTecknologyRinchen: you like you your +o, huh?20:26
Rinchensorry having irc issues today20:26
RinchenI need to set noop20:26
MTecknologyRinchen: you know I was just giving you crap, right?20:26
Rinchendone20:26
Rinchenyeah I know.20:26
Rinchen:-D20:26
Rincheni set noop so it shouldn't happen any longer20:27
MTecknologyRinchen: can you force karma to update?20:27
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MTecknologyheh?20:28
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Rinchensomeone has joey on auto-login and I can't take it over and group it20:29
Rinchenfrustrating20:29
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MTecknologyhttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal20:30
MTecknologypretty colors20:30
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* launchpad is cool.20:35
MTecknology'tis20:35
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Ursinhahahahaha20:41
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MTecknologyI'm curious, is there any one person that could bring down all of launchpad in an hour?20:50
spmMTecknology: (hi!) why would you ask? /me blinks a bit at the question20:52
MTecknologyspm: random curiousity20:55
lifelessMTecknology: we hope not :P20:55
MTecknologyI was wonding if everything is setup in such a way that not even sabdfl could just walk in and bring things down20:55
lifelessI'm not really sure what you are getting at20:57
lifelessor rather, I'm really not sure what you are getting at20:57
MTecknologysorry, didn't mean to do anything that could offend, just kinda bored waiting for thigns to replicate20:58
* lifeless is confused not offended20:58
MTecknologywell, if something is setup really really really well - then there's no one person with keys to everything that can bring down an entire system21:00
MTecknologyat least that's what I've always understood21:00
spmMTecknology: without speaking on behalf of or for launchpad; you'd be *really* hard pressed to find any system that isn't capable of having a person take it out.21:01
spmeg. take away the dollars; take out the main circuit breaker etc21:01
spmeven as simple as what's happening to my previous system - it gets sold.21:01
MTecknologygood point21:02
spmthere are all sorts of ancillary ways of taking out systems, without hitting the system itself. eg bomb the local telephone exchanges, for violent example21:02
MTecknologylol :P21:03
spm.. keeping in mind I have 6+ years of IT security experience via Defence. :-)21:03
MTecknologydefence?21:04
MTecknologyDoD?21:04
spmAustralian Dept. of Defence. Yes. I was one of the team of IT Security folks.21:04
MTecknologyfun21:04
spm*boring*21:04
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spm2% fun, 98% report/policy writing/advice etc21:05
MTecknologyouch21:05
MTecknology!nickspam | Rinchen21:05
ubottuRinchen: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead. See also « /msg ubottu Guidelines »21:05
MTecknologyRinchen: ;)21:05
beunospm, I bet it was boring because you where doing your job right. Now, leave a few holes here and there, and it gets much more interesting..21:05
Rinchenah good point :-)21:05
spmbeuno: leaving holes is, sadly, the goal. the trick! is to leave the holes that are expensive to fix, yet hard to exploit. :-)21:06
beunosee, you take the fun out of everything...21:07
spmie. Do personel vetting, vs full strip searches & brain wiping on staff leaving at close of busines each day ;-)21:08
spmHa! hardly! :-D21:08
beunostrip searching sounds like fun21:09
MTecknologyany hot coworkers?21:09
spmI am so not answering either of those questions....21:09
spm:-P21:09
beunowise man21:10
maxb<MTecknology> well, if something is setup really really really well - then there's no one person with keys to everything that can bring down an entire system21:13
maxb<MTecknology> at least that's what I've always understood21:13
maxb^ That sounds very implausible to me. Someone had to have the access to set it up in the first place, that access can presumably be used to take it down again21:13
maxbThat's even before you start circumventing the computer systems by physical means21:13
gmbIt's only not possible if whatever the system is has already achieved sentience and can defend itself. In which case, we're screwed anyway.21:14
gmbLaunchpad's not quite there yet.21:14
lifelessgmb: oh, you're a strongly godlike AI person?21:14
gmbWell, bits of Soyuz and codehosting are, which is why we're not open sourcing them - we want to save the human race - but the rest of Launchpad isn't there yet.21:15
mwhudsongmb: you should post that last bit to the blog21:16
gmbHeh.21:16
gmbCertain people might take issue with that.21:16
mwhudsoni have no idea who you could possibly mean21:16
gmbI know, odd isn't it?21:16
qsihello, I've started to publish my first branches in launchpad, it looks neat, ... My "code" consists out of different directories and files, ...is there a way to offer a tar.gz in an automated way of the whole set of files for users who don't want to install and use bzr?21:21
beunoqsi, not yet. There's something being worked on, so it may land in the following months21:21
statikqsi: although if you do the work of making the tarball yourself, you can upload that to launchpad for people to download21:22
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qsibeuno, tnx21:23
qsistatik: ok best to make a separate branch for them or something?21:24
statikqsi: no, there's a separate thing in launchpad that lets you make a 'release', which can be a source tarball or zip file or whatever21:25
qsiaha21:25
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vadi2How can one find out all of the translators that contributed to a translation, automatically?22:51

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