[00:21] <glade88> jcastro: ping
[09:56] <sylvain> Hello
[09:56] <sylvain> I have a question about milestones and series.
[09:56] <sylvain> We used to not use series, but would like now.
[09:57] <sylvain> So I created one, but I have all my milestones in the 'trunk' series (the default of my project)
[09:57] <sylvain> there is any way that I can *move* a milestone between a series ?
[10:09] <adeuring> sylvain: I don't know myself, but I'll ask other LP developers
[10:13] <sylvain> thanks
[12:00] <jpds> Anyone know why http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~do-plugins/do/do-plugins keeps redirecting me to the launchpad home page?
[12:03] <jpds> Ah, someone got the URL wrong.
[12:50] <luisbg> I just accepted a merge proposal to a code branch of mine, but in that branch the commits of the proposal don't appear. what do I have to do to merge that proposed branch to mine?
[12:51] <domas> bzr merge; bzr push :)
[12:51] <luisbg> domas, I have to do it in my command line
[12:51] <luisbg> not through launchpad?
[12:51] <luisbg> domas, thanks btw :)
[12:52] <domas> launchpad merge tracking is just to have kind of audit trail
[12:52] <domas> as far as I understand it :)
[12:52] <domas> merges usually have conflict resolutions and such
[12:52] <luisbg> I see
[12:52] <domas> and launchpad doesn't seem to have web interface for that
[12:54] <luisbg> domas, I did:
[12:54] <luisbg> bzr merge lp:...
[12:54] <luisbg> bzr status
[12:54] <luisbg> pending merges: ...
[12:55] <luisbg> bzr push
[12:55] <luisbg> No new revisions to push
[12:55] <luisbg> :?
[12:55] <andrea-bs> luisbg: you should commit before pushing
[12:55] <luisbg> andrea-bs, ahhh
[12:56] <domas> %)
[12:56] <domas> yes
[12:56] <domas> commit would be helpful
[12:57] <luisbg> hmmm... so now all the commits in the proposal branch
[12:57] <luisbg> appear as one in mine
[12:58] <andrea-bs> luisbg: yes, but you can use `bzr commit --author="Someone <email@address>"`
[12:58] <luisbg> andrea-bs, oops... to late for that :)
[12:58] <luisbg> would've liked it to give him credit
[12:58] <andrea-bs> luisbg: bzr uncommit ;)
[12:58] <domas> ye, uncommit :)
[12:58] <luisbg> ooh didn't knew that one
[12:58] <luisbg> even after the push?
[12:59] <beuno> luisbg, uncommit, and then push --overwrite
[12:59] <domas> my biggest problem usually is aggregating commit notes from merge into my commit message
[12:59] <luisbg> domas, yeah
[12:59] <luisbg> hey beuno :)
[13:00] <beuno> hiya luisbg!
[13:00] <luisbg> :)
[13:01] <beuno> luisbg, it may interest you to take a peak at: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/user-guide/index.html#sharing-with-peers
[13:03] <luisbg> beuno, thanks!
[13:03] <luisbg> domas, andrea-bs, thanks also :)
[13:03] <andrea-bs> luisbg: you're welcome :)
[13:03] <luisbg> :)
[14:21] <jcastro> barry: happy birthday!
[14:22] <barry> jcastro: thanks man!
[15:52] <vadi2> How long to translation imports for the first time normally take? One project I suggested to use lp for translations and would like to translate is taking 5 days to import
[15:53] <henninge> vadi2: pelase tell me the name of the import
[15:53] <henninge> vadi2: the project, I mean
[15:53] <vadi2> https://translations.launchpad.net/sopcast-player/+imports
[15:58] <bwklein> Hello, I am curious if I can put a software project on Launchpad that is Public Domain.
[16:00] <Spads> bwklein: I notice that you appear to be connecting from a US federal agency, and when you say "Public Domain" you are more likely than most to genuinely mean it :)
[16:01] <bwklein> Yes, I know what it is ans how it applies to me.
[16:01] <bwklein> and
[16:01] <beuno> bac, ^
[16:01] <bwklein> We have an open source project that is Public Domain, and are looking for various services to host it.
[16:02] <beuno> bwklein, if it's open source, then it's all good
[16:02] <bwklein> Most require the project to fit into a handful of Licenses, but usually there is not a choice for Federal Gov't works.
[16:03] <Spads> beuno: there's no license for federal government works because the US federal government can't hold copyright
[16:03] <beuno> ah, interesting
[16:03]  * Spads ran into this when doing work for the NPS once
[16:03] <bwklein> So, when setting up a project, I would not have to select what License the project is released under?
[16:03] <bwklein> Spads is right...
[16:04] <beuno> bwklein, you do have to specify it, but I think you can say "other"
[16:04] <beuno> bac will know, he's around here somewhere
[16:04] <bwklein> hmmm...
[16:04] <bwklein> ok
[16:05]  * bac looks
[16:05] <bac> bwklein: you can just choose 'Public Domain'
[16:06] <bwklein> It is an option?
[16:06] <bac> bwklein: yes
[16:06] <bwklein> That is great and unusual.
[16:06] <bac> bwklein: there is also a text field where you can add any additional information you wish.
[16:07] <bac> bwklein: just please don't add extra text that severely modifies the license you pick.
[16:07] <bwklein> Also, what are the limitations for a project in terms of size and number of members in the team?
[16:07] <bwklein> Usually the additional text would be from our standard Gov't Disclaimer.
[16:07] <bwklein> http://fire.nist.gov/fds/disclaimer.html
[16:08] <bac> bwklein: some resources, like the size of PPAs, are limited.  for most things, like team members, there are no limits
[16:08] <bwklein> bac: Sorry, can you expand PPA's?
[16:09] <bac> bwklein: if you want to just put a link to that page it would be fine
[16:09] <bwklein> That would work for us.
[16:09] <bac> bwklein: PPAs are 'personal package archives'.
[16:09] <vadi2> henninge: any ideas?
[16:09] <bac> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[16:10] <henninge> vadi2: your template is not named .pot, which is confusing.
[16:10] <vadi2> well, first time heh
[16:10] <henninge> vadi2: I can change that during aproval, though, if you change it locally, too.
[16:10] <bac> bwklein: thanks for your interest in launchpad.  we are very happy to host your project.  please contact me if you have any issues getting started.
[16:10] <vadi2> henninge: ok
[16:10] <bwklein> bac: Right now we are using Google Code Project Hosting.
[16:10] <henninge> vadi2: I have to make one more check, hang on.
[16:11] <bwklein> But there may be some problem in the future with our selection of MIT License, which was only selected to satisfy the GCPH sign-up process.
[16:12] <bwklein> bac: I will look through the site and see how it might work for us and if I have any more questions.
[16:12] <bwklein> Thank you all for your time and help.
[16:13] <bac> bwklein: no problem.  glad i could help.
[16:17] <henninge> vadi2: are you the uploader?
[16:18] <vadi2> nuh
[16:18] <vadi2> I'm the guy who told the uploader to upload
[16:18] <henninge> vadi2: or who is flyguy97
[16:18] <vadi2> the project maker
[16:18] <henninge> vadi2: ;-)
[16:19] <henninge> vadi2: ok, so he is doing both the google and the launchpad project, right?
[16:19] <vadi2> mmm yeah
[16:20] <henninge> vadi2: ok, I approved the import, will be imported shortly. Good luck with the translations!
[16:20] <vadi2> thanks :)
[16:31] <thekorn> hi, does anyone know when the Web UI of staging.lp.net will be updated?
[16:31] <thekorn> currently edge is on r7731 and staging is like 60 revisions behind
[16:32] <thekorn> proble is that edge has some blingbling YUI things in the subscriptions portlet which breaks python-launchpad-bugs
[16:33] <thekorn> I always thought that such things would be added to staging first
[16:44] <Goundy> I created a branch on launchpad using bazaar, now I want to assign it to my development team and not to myself
[16:44] <Goundy> Is that possible ?
[16:52] <Goundy> hmm how to delete a branch first? :/
[16:53] <adeuring> Goundy: deleting a branch is easy: clock on the trash can icon to the right of the branch name
[16:54] <Goundy> adeuring okay and do you know how to do it through bazaar ?
[16:58] <adeuring> Goundy: I'm not sure if this is possible...
[16:59] <Goundy> adeuring yep you're right
[16:59] <Goundy> adeuring I've a last question :)
[17:00] <adeuring> Goundy: goo ahead, but I'm not a bzr guru ;)
[17:00] <Goundy> well related to launchpad
[17:00] <Goundy> I've a serie called: trunk
[17:00] <Goundy> it contains a main branch
[17:00] <Goundy> mainline*
[17:00] <Goundy> I want to add a new branch to that serie
[17:00] <Goundy> but doesn't really work
[17:00] <Goundy> https://code.launchpad.net/aures
[17:01] <Goundy> and I did:  bzr branch website  lp:~goundy/trunk/website
[17:01] <Goundy> result: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~goundy/trunk/website": No such project: trunk
[17:01] <Goundy> oupse
[17:01] <adeuring> Goundy: you must specify the project name before the series, like so:
[17:02] <adeuring> ~goudy/aures/trunk/
[17:02] <Goundy> adeuring it says: Cannot create branch at '/~goundy/aures/trunk/website'
[17:02] <Goundy> :/
[17:03] <adeuring> Goundy: what is "website"? a part of your bzr project, or another branch?
[17:03] <Goundy> adeuring it's a new branch that I just initiated on my machine
[17:04] <Goundy> and I'm trying to create it on the repo
[17:04] <adeuring> The you can push it to ~goudy/aures/website
[17:04] <Goundy> adeuring i know I already did this
[17:04] <Goundy> but I want it to have the same serie
[17:05] <Goundy> well adeuring nevermind man and thank you very much I'll just do it that way
[17:06] <Goundy> hey what the hell: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~auresdev/aures/website/".
[17:06] <Goundy> oO
[17:06] <Goundy> I just created it through launchpad UI
[17:07] <domas> you didn't push anything to it
[17:07] <domas> you just registered, you didn't actually create it
[17:08] <Goundy> domas damn I'm so nooby noob :-)
[17:08] <domas> thats ok!
[17:10] <adeuring> thekorn: we have some serious problem updating staing at present. To quote kiko: " abel, tell him staging had a run-in with a box of mescaline and is currently swimming naked in the pond in central park"
[17:10] <Goundy> thank guys all's okay :)
[17:20] <Goundy> domas hmmm am wondering... Is it possible to delete a serie and keep the branch that's in it?
[17:21] <Goundy> I get it I have just to delete my serie
[17:21] <Goundy> :-)
[17:21] <Goundy> thanks
[17:22] <Goundy> damn I've no idea where to kick out a serie hmmm
[17:25] <Goundy> gotta go ;)
[17:25] <Goundy> see you
[17:34] <thekorn_> adeuring, I'm not sure I got your complete answer to my question before my connection died, but thanks for investigating
[17:35] <adeuring> thekorn_: no there wasn't anything more -- sorry, I can give you any date when staging will be again updated :(
[17:35] <thekorn_> adeuring, ok, no problem
[17:38] <domas> Goundy: of course
[17:38] <Goundy> back
[17:38] <Goundy> domas I just understood how it works
[17:38] <Goundy> domas but something weird. The lp help says: A serie has its own brancheS
[17:38] <Goundy> But I can assign only ONE branch to a serie
[17:39] <Goundy> Is that normal ?
[17:39] <domas> documentation bug then
[17:39] <domas> Goundy: I'm very fresh launchpad user myself :)
[17:39] <domas> though have tested probably nearly all features :)
[17:40] <Goundy> domas ew I thought you were a developer :P
[17:40] <Goundy> Okay okay... Thank you very much ;)
[17:40] <domas> Goundy: https://launchpad.net/~domas-mituzas :)
[17:41] <Goundy> damn
[17:41] <Goundy> domas MySQL Senior Support Engineer at Sun Microsystems
[17:41] <Goundy> you really ROCK !
[17:41] <Goundy> Can I have a job there ? :(
[17:41] <Goundy> I dream to work inside Sun Microsystems !
[17:41] <domas> you didn't look at stock lately, did you? :)
[17:41] <Goundy> not really
[17:41] <domas> it is fun place to work
[17:42] <Goundy> domas I end my studies this year !
[17:42] <Goundy> I hope I'll get a nice job :D
[17:43] <Goundy> well I have to move for moment I'll be back in 30 minutes
[17:43] <Goundy> see you ;)
[19:26] <AlexC_> morning
[19:26] <AlexC_> how long does it normally take for translation files to be accecpted?
[19:27] <MTecknology> AlexC_: depends on who needs to accept it
[19:27] <MTecknology> beuno: hi
[19:28] <AlexC_> hum, well is 6 days quick/slow?
[19:28] <beuno> MTecknology, howdy
[19:28] <Ursinha> danilos, ^
[19:28] <MTecknology> Am I supposed to get karma for blueprints?
[19:29] <beuno> MTecknology, tons of it, yes
[19:29] <Ursinha> MTecknology, yes, why?
[19:29] <MTecknology> AlexC_: it all depends, if the person that approves it is on vacation, it could take a long long time. or some people get to it within an hour.
[19:30] <MTecknology> I'm not seeing my karma for blueprints listed here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~mtecknology/+karma
[19:30] <Ursinha> MTecknology, when did you create the blueprints?
[19:30] <MTecknology> two days ago I think
[19:30] <AlexC_> =\ should really be more automated, imo - such a ball ache currently
[19:30] <Ursinha> MTecknology, hmm
[19:31] <MTecknology> Ursinha: nope, only one day
[19:32] <Ursinha> MTecknology, iirc, the karma calculator runs once a day
[19:32] <MTecknology> I approved it 23 hours ago
[19:32] <MTecknology> I kinda rushed that one through, but I like how they work and I want to start using them
[19:33] <matsubara> bug 283323
[19:33] <matsubara> I confirmed it a long time ago but Curtis said this is probably fixed
[19:34] <matsubara> so, I'm not sure anymore
[19:36] <MTecknology> matsubara: Specification Tracking is blueprints?
[19:36] <matsubara> MTecknology: yes
[19:37] <MTecknology> staging is kinda cool - the big demo background
[19:41] <MTecknology> heh.... I'm starting to become most active in Launchpad itself
[19:45] <MTecknology> matsubara: any guess when that will get looked at again?
[19:52] <matsubara> MTecknology: don't know. can you comment in the bug report pointing to the blueprint you registered that didn't award you any karma?
[19:53] <MTecknology> matsubara: done
[19:55] <matsubara> thanks MTecknology
[19:55] <MTecknology> hope there's nothing that's actually wrong with it and it's just a time thing, but it seems like it should have updated by now
[20:24] <MTecknology> wow - blueprints are cool....
[20:24] <MTecknology> the way dependencies work are nice
[20:26] <MTecknology> Rinchen: you like you your +o, huh?
[20:26] <Rinchen> sorry having irc issues today
[20:26] <Rinchen> I need to set noop
[20:26] <MTecknology> Rinchen: you know I was just giving you crap, right?
[20:26] <Rinchen> done
[20:26] <Rinchen> yeah I know.
[20:26] <Rinchen> :-D
[20:27] <Rinchen> i set noop so it shouldn't happen any longer
[20:27] <MTecknology> Rinchen: can you force karma to update?
[20:28] <MTecknology> heh?
[20:29] <Rinchen> someone has joey on auto-login and I can't take it over and group it
[20:29] <Rinchen> frustrating
[20:30] <MTecknology> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal
[20:30] <MTecknology> pretty colors
[20:35]  * launchpad is cool.
[20:35] <MTecknology> 'tis
[20:41] <Ursinha> hahahaha
[20:50] <MTecknology> I'm curious, is there any one person that could bring down all of launchpad in an hour?
[20:52] <spm> MTecknology: (hi!) why would you ask? /me blinks a bit at the question
[20:55] <MTecknology> spm: random curiousity
[20:55] <lifeless> MTecknology: we hope not :P
[20:55] <MTecknology> I was wonding if everything is setup in such a way that not even sabdfl could just walk in and bring things down
[20:57] <lifeless> I'm not really sure what you are getting at
[20:57] <lifeless> or rather, I'm really not sure what you are getting at
[20:58] <MTecknology> sorry, didn't mean to do anything that could offend, just kinda bored waiting for thigns to replicate
[20:58]  * lifeless is confused not offended
[21:00] <MTecknology> well, if something is setup really really really well - then there's no one person with keys to everything that can bring down an entire system
[21:00] <MTecknology> at least that's what I've always understood
[21:01] <spm> MTecknology: without speaking on behalf of or for launchpad; you'd be *really* hard pressed to find any system that isn't capable of having a person take it out.
[21:01] <spm> eg. take away the dollars; take out the main circuit breaker etc
[21:01] <spm> even as simple as what's happening to my previous system - it gets sold.
[21:02] <MTecknology> good point
[21:02] <spm> there are all sorts of ancillary ways of taking out systems, without hitting the system itself. eg bomb the local telephone exchanges, for violent example
[21:03] <MTecknology> lol :P
[21:03] <spm> .. keeping in mind I have 6+ years of IT security experience via Defence. :-)
[21:04] <MTecknology> defence?
[21:04] <MTecknology> DoD?
[21:04] <spm> Australian Dept. of Defence. Yes. I was one of the team of IT Security folks.
[21:04] <MTecknology> fun
[21:04] <spm> *boring*
[21:05] <spm> 2% fun, 98% report/policy writing/advice etc
[21:05] <MTecknology> ouch
[21:05] <MTecknology> !nickspam | Rinchen
[21:05] <MTecknology> Rinchen: ;)
[21:05] <beuno> spm, I bet it was boring because you where doing your job right. Now, leave a few holes here and there, and it gets much more interesting..
[21:05] <Rinchen> ah good point :-)
[21:06] <spm> beuno: leaving holes is, sadly, the goal. the trick! is to leave the holes that are expensive to fix, yet hard to exploit. :-)
[21:07] <beuno> see, you take the fun out of everything...
[21:08] <spm> ie. Do personel vetting, vs full strip searches & brain wiping on staff leaving at close of busines each day ;-)
[21:08] <spm> Ha! hardly! :-D
[21:09] <beuno> strip searching sounds like fun
[21:09] <MTecknology> any hot coworkers?
[21:09] <spm> I am so not answering either of those questions....
[21:09] <spm> :-P
[21:10] <beuno> wise man
 well, if something is setup really really really well - then there's no one person with keys to everything that can bring down an entire system
 at least that's what I've always understood
[21:13] <maxb> ^ That sounds very implausible to me. Someone had to have the access to set it up in the first place, that access can presumably be used to take it down again
[21:13] <maxb> That's even before you start circumventing the computer systems by physical means
[21:14] <gmb> It's only not possible if whatever the system is has already achieved sentience and can defend itself. In which case, we're screwed anyway.
[21:14] <gmb> Launchpad's not quite there yet.
[21:14] <lifeless> gmb: oh, you're a strongly godlike AI person?
[21:15] <gmb> Well, bits of Soyuz and codehosting are, which is why we're not open sourcing them - we want to save the human race - but the rest of Launchpad isn't there yet.
[21:16] <mwhudson> gmb: you should post that last bit to the blog
[21:16] <gmb> Heh.
[21:16] <gmb> Certain people might take issue with that.
[21:16] <mwhudson> i have no idea who you could possibly mean
[21:16] <gmb> I know, odd isn't it?
[21:21] <qsi> hello, I've started to publish my first branches in launchpad, it looks neat, ... My "code" consists out of different directories and files, ...is there a way to offer a tar.gz in an automated way of the whole set of files for users who don't want to install and use bzr?
[21:21] <beuno> qsi, not yet. There's something being worked on, so it may land in the following months
[21:22] <statik> qsi: although if you do the work of making the tarball yourself, you can upload that to launchpad for people to download
[21:23] <qsi> beuno, tnx
[21:24] <qsi> statik: ok best to make a separate branch for them or something?
[21:25] <statik> qsi: no, there's a separate thing in launchpad that lets you make a 'release', which can be a source tarball or zip file or whatever
[21:25] <qsi> aha
[22:51] <vadi2> How can one find out all of the translators that contributed to a translation, automatically?