[13:32] <kwwii> _MMA_: hey man, do you remember if the usplash progress bar coordinates are from the top or the bottom?
[13:37] <_MMA_> kwwii: No. Don't remember. Sorry.
[15:56] <knome> 'lo. suppose we can use any jackalope artwork in the next xubuntu release as well, right?
[15:57] <_MMA_> I don't see why not.
[15:57] <knome> ok, thanks.
[15:57] <knome> i'll let you all know if we use something.
[16:49] <_MMA_> andreasn: Bah... Ruby scripts suck. python is better. :P http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk/files
[16:50] <andreasn> ah, scripting languages, I never really cared for scripting languages
[16:51] <andreasn> once I was reading a book on php on the bus and a drunk programmer(?) told me that it was no longer "in"
[16:51] <_MMA_> andreasn: :P Are you rendering multiple icons from a single file?
[16:51] <andreasn> but it solved my problem with a website feed thing two days later
[16:51] <andreasn> for the gpm thing? yes
[16:51] <_MMA_> andreasn: Wow. A geek tellin' another geek he's uncool. :P
[16:52] <andreasn> he had to get off at the next stop, so I never got to know what was "in"
[16:52] <_MMA_> Python!! :P
[16:52] <knome> monty python!
[16:53] <_MMA_> andreasn: I was thinking about doing it (multiple icons from single file) for Breathe but I got things working fine atm. Don't wanna jinx it. :P
[16:54] <andreasn> as long as it works it works. gpm was kind of a special case, since all the batteries have to be the same, and there are, like a hundred of them in total
[16:54] <_MMA_> Ouch.
[16:54] <andreasn> so it just use a clone for the base part of it
[16:55] <andreasn> hugsie, um, kind of likes icons, a lot
[16:56] <_MMA_> andreasn: I should probable ask JonCruz when he's in #inkscape but do you know how the ArtLibre icon spec is supposed to be supported *in* a set? ie: What category the icons go in?
[16:57] <andreasn> hm, I guess that stuff like import/export, different zoom levels etc. would go into actions
[16:58] <kwwii> _MMA_: ok, so should I go through with the mailing list rename?
[16:58] <kwwii> _MMA_: moving ubuntu-art to ubuntu-art-discuss (while keeping everyone subscribed)
[16:59] <andreasn> rotate and mirror are also actions, then we have a lot of "tools", is it possible to just come up with a new category name like that without breaking shit?
[16:59] <andreasn> _MMA_, in short, I don't think I have a good answer to you. Maybe dobey have a good idea about it
[17:00] <kwwii> hey andreasn, my plans for london have changed
[17:00] <andreasn> kwwii, ah, good. Mine too :)
[17:00] <kwwii> I will be there next week tue-thurs and the week after that tue-fri
[17:01] <andreasn> thos won't be in town until early march again, so maybe I'll go there then
[17:02] <kwwii> andreasn: hrm, I'll be in Cape Town the second week of march, not sure about london around that time yet
[17:04] <_MMA_> andreasn: Ok. Ill ask Jon. :P
[17:04] <kwwii> _MMA_: so what do you think about the email list?
[17:05] <kwwii> they wanna do it now...don't want to hold them back from their work
[17:05] <_MMA_> kwwii: I don't know. I'm generally a little hesitant about the idea still but the above looks fine.
[17:06] <_MMA_> I just hope we can get the right people over to the new ubuntu-art.
[17:06] <_MMA_> kwwii: Maybe the new one should be ubuntu-art-devel?
[17:07] <kwwii> yeah, maybe
[17:08] <_MMA_> kwwii: Wait!!
[17:08] <kwwii> ?
[17:08] <_MMA_> Maybe that's the solution? Make the new list ubuntu-art-devel?
[17:08] <_MMA_> Kep things as they are?
[17:08] <_MMA_> *Keep
[17:08] <kwwii> yeah, just leave this list as is and create a new one
[17:08] <kwwii> which is moderated, etc
[17:09] <_MMA_> yep
[17:10] <thorwil> stupid list remains stupid and we get a new clean one? ;)
[17:11] <thorwil> although i have to say it has been quite focused, lately
[17:11] <_MMA_> Might be best. Though, I remain hesitant since the issues that started this process months ago have for the most part subsided.
[17:11] <_MMA_> thorwil: Agreed
[17:19] <thorwil> i wonder what led this guy to think that themes specifically for the alphas would make sense: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaThemes
[17:20]  * _MMA_ shrugs.
[17:21] <_MMA_> Kinda sad the plan to have different wallpapers for the alphas fell through.
[17:22] <thorwil> yes, makes one wonder why anyone would still submit anything
[18:43] <_MMA_> thorwil: Here's Sebastián. http://www.facebook.com/people/Sebastian-Porta/1148451871 Nice to see he's an older guy. :P
[18:54] <thorwil> _MMA_: what, did you think he's 16? :)
[18:56] <_MMA_> thorwil: Well, you can't really blame me as it is the norm. :) But given his writing style I woulda guessed 20's with a good head on his shoulders.
[18:58] <thorwil> _MMA_: yeah. though what does writing style in a foreign language mean? :)
[19:00] <zniavre> hello
[19:00] <_MMA_> Even though I know it's his 2nd language, what he says, his choice of words, still lead me to believe he's not a kid.
[19:00] <thorwil> ack
[19:00] <zniavre> there is a way to make firefox and open office scrollbar as in nautilus or gtk apps ?
[19:01] <_MMA_> zniavre: FF3 should grab the scrollbar fine. Im not sure about OO.o.
[19:01] <zniavre> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/187396/jaunty.png
[19:02] <zniavre> 3 softs 3 diffrents scrollbars
[19:03] <_MMA_> zniavre: Yeah. Just slightly though.
[19:04] <_MMA_> zniavre: What applet are you using to display the menu in the panelbar?
[19:18] <zniavre> globalmenu 0.7