[00:09] * Madpilot smells car-computer troll in -ot [00:09] or at least someone daft enough to possibly need an educational kicking... [00:09] yep [00:10] Madpilot better in -ot than in ubuntu [00:11] true, that. [00:18] @login [00:18] The operation succeeded. [00:18] @btlogin [00:20] troll, honestly ignorant, or just daft? (WRT our carputer chap in -ot...) [00:21] a bit of both. [00:21] troll [00:21] or all three that is. [00:21] mangling stallman's name was intentional trolling, but uncertainty about hardware control from linux is real i think [00:21] Madpilot Should I not have told that user you had specific knowledge in that area? [00:22] I don't even own a car :) [00:22] See, you are an expert [00:22] pointless things, only good for getting to and from airports [00:22] * nickrud_ breaths a sigh of relief that canada does psych tests [00:23] Ah, so having 5 of them is.. redundent [00:23] yes. absolutely. no more than 3 (off road, long trip, and local) [00:24] or a 4th, if you often need a pickup [00:24] nickrud, there's a lovely quote from one of the FAA's former Chief Medical Examiners, something like, "We still have no reliable methods for ensuring pilots are sane." :) [00:24] Sure there is: "I quit" :) [00:24] meh, have one discount card w/ a decent car rental outfit. End of driveway clutter. [00:25] nickrud, Catch 22 [00:25] yep [00:25] glad you noticed :) [00:25] I have one, get around town car. Rent anything else [00:26] nickrud_ Pickup, convertible and a couple lincoln mark VIII's and the rolling couch.. erm.. Towncar [00:26] ok heads up I might be banning Grant-A from #ubuntuforums shortly [00:26] for about one month's worth of spewing factually inaccurate nonsense and then creating a ruckus in the channel [00:26] jdong, is he/she likely to attempt to spread the love to other #u channels? [00:26] he's been known to pop into here almost instantly we raise our voices :) [00:26] yep, redundant. (the warning as well, it's obvious) [00:27] Madpilot: I hope not, I dont' think so [00:27] but he will almost sturely come in here and make claims against me [00:27] he's common in #ubuntu [00:27] s/common/often/ (been reading too much austen recently) [00:28] Hmm, an IRC channel that enforced Victoria English. That'd be awesome. [00:29] grant-a has been spending alot of time in Arch channel [00:29] it would most definitely raise the level of discourse immediately [00:29] Or Shakespearean. You could get really, really picturesque trolling in a shakespearean channel. So good you'd want to not ban them... [00:29] haha [00:30] half the time we wouldn't recognize quality trolling ;) [00:31] carputer troll seems to have restarted his trollscript from the top... [00:33] there [00:33] did that output do what I think it does [00:33] err terrible grammar [00:33] no idea, and I'm not about to open a term and try it [00:34] oh it was __mikem who suggested it via PM [00:35] hmm [00:39] apparently it spawns an infinite number of processes and keeps going until the machine is rebooted [00:40] mikem and I just had a chat in PM on the importance of not being kickbanned for posting noob-eating terminal commands [00:41] no matter how justified? [00:41] Madpilot that should have been his second waring on that [00:41] what's the command? [00:41] Pricey, see -ot a little while ago [00:41] bah was looking at #ubutnu [00:42] "Try running in a terminal :(){ :|:& };:" [00:42] Madpilot: ah yeah, lovely [00:42] :o [00:42] Madpilot: btw, the end of mibbit hosts are randomly generated on each connection [00:42] Madpilot: ban instead the ident [00:43] mode +b *!?=47e84e24@* [00:43] lazy op takes lazy scripted way to kickban. If he was going to come back and keep trolling, he'd likely have tried to come back right away. [00:47] Or you can ban the IP [00:47] /wii the mibbit user and you get the real IP [00:47] (as the realname) you can then ban it (just like normal) and floodbots won't allow them exceptions [00:48] I suppose in -ot that won't work with the exceptions. But a +d on the realname (which is actually the IP) should work [02:15] psufan (i=47e84e24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bd004bf5fa919dc0) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic back in -ot [03:33] In #ubuntu-offtopic, Hayleigh said: !lart hmm, is this still available? [05:59] In #ubuntu-offtopic, AtomicSpark said: !AtomicSpark is Do a beryl roll! === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [06:36] bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu (mindrape) [06:37] nick:bruenig at #ubuntu. trolling hard, as usual [06:37] adios [06:37] sykopomp called the ops in #ubuntu (bruenig) [06:37] Madpilot, you read back faster than I [06:38] heh, everyone but the real troll got booted [06:40] bugger, now mindrape is bandodging [06:40] I'd kb just on that nick, almost... [06:40] its him [06:40] he was being pretty helpful. bruenig likes to start these fights. i've seen it many times. also on other channels [06:40] bruenig can also be very much an instigator [06:40] they are laughing about it in arch-ot [06:40] nickrud: he's an expert [06:41] including bruenig [06:42] mindrape_ is thewizord [06:42] not mindrape who just got kb;d [06:44] we got a srs contributor banned [06:44] bleh [06:45] yeah, I recognized two of them as often useful, why I started with talk [06:45] as if both of you were tag team trolling me [06:45] I may have jumped the gun w/ a quick look thru scrollback [06:45] and that unpleasant nick... [06:46] he was clever. he made it look like he was the victim [06:46] yeah, it rubs me wrong as well. [06:46] we need to get a paste of that whole thing [06:47] from arch-ot ^^ [06:48] thewizord is a regular in #ubuntuforums as well [06:49] bazhang, how many channels you in normally? [06:49] nickrud, 13-14 [06:49] * nickrud thinks age must be the cause of his inability to pay usable attention to that many [07:25] morning [07:31] Panty raid? Serioiusly? [07:32] what where [07:35] next thing he gets is a forward here. [07:35] or a ban I suppose, depending on said actions [07:35] yup [07:38] is that failfailtroll again? [07:42] *sigh* [07:42] I'd say IdleOne is now the unflexible one [07:43] no, I understand completely. My boss is the same. [07:43] nickrud: I just don't see how they're inable to run a different program, but he's going to try and convince them to install something. [07:44] (and then run that other different program) [07:44] that was miscommunication there, I think more than anything. Probably means he'd be better off driving 500 miles to configure it himself rather than walking the guy through it [07:46] my boss still thinks the 'internet' is windows explorer. I've gone over and over it, but the 'internet' is explorer and email is express [07:46] yep. Blue E to get to the internet [07:46] Lets just be thankful they don't spell it enternet. [07:46] oh god [07:47] "Why is it an 'e'? why not an 'i' for internet?" [07:47] because at 1995 eAnything was hip [07:47] "because it stands for internet Exploder, not just internet" [07:48] Myrtti: the eInternet? ;) [07:48] that too [07:48] still uses a 6 year old version of nikon's photo management software. That constantly forgets its settings. Which I have to go fix regularly. [07:59] Hi Digital7, how can we help you? [08:00] ah, thanks for the warm welcome -- i was actually just coming to scope this channel out after a little event went down in #ubuntu [08:01] Which event is that? [08:01] if you would like to know though, it was because of someone named mindrape getting banned [08:01] there was a scuffle between three or four people [08:02] how long are bans enforced there? [08:03] Depends on the incident and the attitude of those involved, etc. We don't generally comment on other people's bans, as thats a private issue. [08:03] understood, i was just curious because he said he would be returning tomorrow -- and would assist me if his ban was lifted [08:04] the only reason i took interest in this particular incident is because he was a relatively helpful person [08:04] If you're here by proxy for one of the parties involved, its best if they come and we can discuss it, etc. [08:04] i am not affiliated with him..and have no means of contact [08:04] Digital7: Well, the best thing to do in the meantime is to ask your question in #ubuntu, and see if someone else can help you. I'd fathom a guess that someone would. [08:05] certainly..i'm sure i can resolve the issue without him [08:06] Digital7: Bans are certainly not forever (unless you're a perpetual repeat offender), I know some people apparently come from communities where they are, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me personally. [08:07] but I wasn't around earlier so I haven't any specifics to give. [08:07] i had someone dig up the log and pastebin it for me if you care to look [08:07] i don't doubt the banning op's motives though, he did retaliate [08:08] but it's just a shame [08:08] http://pastebin.com/m3df62f18 if you would like to see it [08:08] sorry--wait just a second, i believe i pasted the wrong pastebin [08:08] Digital7: sometimes people get caught up in the moment or whatnot, it happens; and bans are a tool we can use to diffuse that situation and allow parties involved some time to cool off, etc. [08:09] Digital7: It's alright. I've got the logs in my buffer. [08:09] it was definitely one of those moments [08:10] Digital7: Is there anything else we can help ou with today? [08:12] that's all for now, unless you would like to elaborate on the requisites to be an op here [08:12] this is actually the first time i have ever seen admin intervention in the ubuntu channel, so i'm unfamiliar with the ops concept [08:13] Pretty standard, you have to be a respected member of the community, you're asked to become one, etc. The normal stuff (and no, that's not exhaustive, I just can't come up with anything good at the moment) [08:13] Digital7: In a perfect world, you'd never have to see ops doing anything. [08:14] does !ops broadcast in this channel then? [08:14] to summon help [08:15] wEll, it highlights us all in the respective channels, that's generally the most direct result. [08:15] ah, i do recall seeing the list of names come up [08:15] nice concept [08:16] basic and powerful [08:21] Digital7: If there's nothing else, we ask you don't idle in here, so we can keep track of who has and hasn't been helped. Thanks. [08:23] Flannel: sure thing. take care === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [10:17] * Myrtti yawns [10:23] I should get some coffee going [10:23] and milk [10:23] Myrtti: come and bring milk with you, so I'll make coffee [11:25] coffee! [11:26] morning ladies and gents [11:35] tuna sammich ♥ [11:35] nice [12:04] another gentle nudge while others are awake, can you check this list http://alesi.projecthugo.co.uk/banlist.txt to see if any of these bans should NOT be removed [12:07] whoa. [12:07] http://i.gizmodo.com/5150341/the-complete-animated-history-of-the-internet [12:08] ikonia: ping [12:08] I wonder if is.trapped.in.themetaverse.org is one of the subhosts of silenceisdefeat [12:08] jussi01: pong [12:08] ikonia: pm [12:08] already there [12:14] ikonia: for some reason I'd prefer we'd keep is.trapped.in.themetaverse.org banned as well. [12:15] I just checked 'whois themetaverse.org' and I'm not happy with what I see [12:16] Myrtti: some of them have bad sites - but some of them have not been active for 6+ months [12:16] the contact info for registrant, admin or tech contacts doesn't make me happy [12:16] Myrtti: just trying to balance an old ban that's not been seen for a long time against what's still active [12:16] must dash, chat in 20 [12:16] Myrtti: any your unhappy with I'll remove [12:16] " [12:16] Tech Street1:123 Sesame St [12:16] Tech Street2: [12:16] Tech Street3: [12:16] Tech City:Gayville [12:17] " [12:17] Admin Phone:+1.8005551212 [13:04] rofl [13:59] @bansearch spook [13:59] No matches found for spook!n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au in any channel [13:59] @bansearch *!*@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au [13:59] No matches found for *!*@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au in any channel [13:59] he's going to fly soon [14:00] Indeed. [14:02] Muted. and he left. [14:32] * genii makes a triple-strength pot of coffee, for the brave [14:32] I'm in [14:32] +1 [14:33] * genii hands ikonia and Myrtti large mugs of the rocket-fuel [14:34] I left work at 1:15am, got home ~2, slept around 3 and woke up again for work at 8 .... so I'm kinda punchy until I drink a few of those [14:35] Hrm. 14 people connected from the same IP idling in #ubuntu... [14:36] Some proxy? [14:36] Pici: which ip? [14:36] 81.57.251.185 [14:36] They're all in #TSIGA too [14:36] can we look at the vbox factoid [14:36] referencing gutsy [14:36] gutsy is still supported. [14:36] totally [14:37] but shouldn't be "gutsy onwards" [14:37] sure [14:59] @login [14:59] The operation succeeded. [15:01] Pici: can you also check http://alesi.projecthugo.co.uk/banlist.txt please [15:02] Pici: see if there are any obvious ones in there that you'd like to keep [15:02] I think a few where yours [15:04] ikonia: I'll take a look [15:04] no rush, not doing anything for a while [15:04] just didn't think I'd spoke to you about it === bluesmoke_ is now known as Amaranth [15:05] You hadn't :) [15:05] In #xubuntu-devel, cody-somerville said: !!! Omgz, this is so awesome [15:06] ogmz [15:06] ogmzzzz [15:09] The devolution begins... [15:09] The question is, why would you gzip an ogm? [15:25] @mark #ubuntu infokill trolling [15:25] The operation succeeded. [15:25] @mark #ubuntu infokill411 trolling [15:25] The operation succeeded. [15:32] ikonia: fyi. removes don't trigger people's autorejoin scripts [15:33] thats handy to know [15:33] I actually hope a few of them come back but a kick wakes them up [15:33] Agreed. [15:40] @btlogin [16:33] ikonia: does your list include bans of Floodbots? [16:34] there's lots of banforwards to #ubuntu-read-topic from ages long gone [16:35] which I think could be safely assumed that they will not even try to rejoin #ubuntu and should be removed [16:35] Myrtti: no [16:35] Myrtti: all manmade or "automated addition" [18:03] hello wikkedfin [18:04] hi [18:04] sup [18:05] was just wondering what you were trying to achieve by versioning #ubuntu [18:05] i didnt andhow did i get in this chan i should be in #ubuntu [18:06] hmmm [18:06] you're here just so we can satisfy our curiosity [18:06] [06:43] wikkedfin [n=wikkedfi@75-170-237-59.desm.qwest.net] requested CTCP VERSION from #ubuntu [18:07] that's 0443 UTC time [18:07] so you forced me in here? [18:07] yup. We'd like to know if it was accidental or what were you trying to achieve [18:07] i didnt mean to do it [18:08] is it a bad thing i did? [18:08] to do it on the whole channel, yes. [18:08] how so? [18:08] you can ask people, and they'll answer if they want to [18:09] so who are you? [18:09] me specifically or everyone on this channel? [18:09] both? [18:10] for the latter the answer lies in the channel topic, which you can see with typing /topic in your irc client [18:10] for the afforementioned, I'm one of the people taking care of #ubuntu [18:10] oic [18:11] * Myrtti pokes Pici [18:11] so i cant go in ubuntu anymore eh? [18:11] that remains to be discussed [18:12] with whom? [18:12] in general, issuing ctcp commands to a whole channel is not a good idea [18:12] if you're not familiar to your IRC client, you're welcome to ask on #ubuntu or the channel of the client itself what they do [18:13] so im ban from a chan due to a ctcp of a channel [18:13] doing so will prevent you from doing stuff that might be embarassing, unsafe or both. [18:14] what is it gonna hurt tho? [18:14] i mean why did they build it into the irc client if its so bad? [18:15] why do they manufacture machine guns if its so bad? [18:15] hunting deer isn't the correct answer [18:15] thats not answering my question [18:15] you cant answer a question with a question [18:16] no, but it gives you something to think about which will ultimately bring you to the correct answer through your own insight [18:17] so your telling me you all have to "talk" about letting me back in? [18:17] the real answer is: I don't know. However, CTCPing a whole channel, especially the size of #ubuntu, is frowned upon and has been considered bad behaviour since early days of IRC [18:17] well like i said i didnt mean to [18:17] so you cant leave it at that an let me back in? [18:18] what I'd like to hear from you is a promise that you will not do it again in any of the Ubuntu IRC channels. [18:18] thats funny [18:19] oh? we have this policy about escalation [18:19] ? [18:20] your ctcp and the subsequent banning has been logged. If you want to get back into #ubuntu, you'll have to promise not to do it again, and if you do, you'll be banned again, and that time the unbanning will not happen this fast. [18:21] well like i said i didnt mean to do it [18:21] i wont do it again... [18:21] i dont even know how i did it to tell you the truth [18:21] and you also acknowledge that if you do, you will be banned again? [18:21] ya [18:21] thank you. [18:21] hold on... [18:22] r u server admin? [18:22] try joining #ubuntu now [18:22] thx [18:22] no, I'm not [18:22] so like [18:22] if you ban how do you transfer ppl? [18:23] hello [18:23] wikkedfin: if you want to know, some of the magic is on http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [18:24] if there's anything else, you're free to leave the channel now [18:24] s/there's/there's not/ [18:25] i cant idle ? [18:25] * wikkedfin lol [18:25] nope [18:25] !idle [18:25] Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [18:25] ha [18:25] !help [18:25] Hi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [18:25] u a programm for ubuntu? [18:26] huh? [18:28] do explain [18:28] you aprogrammer for ubuntu? [18:29] no? what does that have to do with Ubuntu IRC channels? [18:31] hello [18:31] umm [18:31] c ya [18:32] * Myrtti rolls her eyes [18:49] missed saving throw. you're blind. [20:03] ikonia: ping === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [22:32] I'm so going to kick that inkvisitor guy from -ot soon [22:33] heh, go ahead [22:33] not a very long lasting joke [22:34] he is annoying... [22:34] * genii sips [22:35] i do think there's some struggling going on with a cyrillic keyboard or something [22:35] sure - but it still doesn't take away HIS BLATANT TROLLING [22:36] nope [22:36] lets jsut see where it goes... === thunders1ruck is now known as gnomefreak [22:37] jussi01: are you serious? [22:38] Myrtti: yes. for a ittle while. if it doenst continue alls good. [22:50] right - I'm definitely too tired for this [23:26] In ubottu, liquid said: this is a test pm [23:27] yes it is [23:30] I bet a lot of people go all red when they realize those 'private' messages weren't so private [23:32] arrrrghhh, this is really beginning to annoy me :( [23:33] * jussi01 doesnt understand why this is: ? MetaMode 1 of Screen 0 has more than two active display devices. [23:33] I mean, why its not allowed? [23:33] sorry, should grumble too much here :/