[00:00] <yoyoned> Anne: right click on menu bar choose edit
[00:00] <disappearedng> yeah I was thinking of something more for girls
[00:00] <i-pink> hii, i looking for program like this for the ubuntu,  http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/inkseine/
[00:00] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: you had a hardy package but I can't seem to install it under ibex?
[00:01] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: I think the kernel interface may have changed
[00:01] <Jack_Sparrow> i-pink No there is nothing like that yet for ubuntu
[00:01] <LinuxMafia> !screencast
[00:01] <i-pink> but u nee it
[00:01] <slomorbo> hi, i'm doing a simple router/nat with ubuntu over a pppoe ISP. a configure my connection with pppoeconf.. this work great. when a do ifup eth1 (to enable my 2th card) my pppoe connection when down until a do "pon dsl-provider"
[00:01] <xoox> How do I remount a filesystem rw that has been remounted ro?
[00:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme
[00:01] <genii> IntuitiveNipple: The vx6000 worked on my 8.10 box using the Microdia driver
[00:02] <i-pink> Jack_Sparrow : what to to?
[00:02] <j85wilson> xoox: sudo mount -o remount,rw my-filesystem
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow> i-pink Go look for a substituute
[00:02] <Flux_teh_Fox> !repeat
[00:02] <slomorbo> hi, i'm doing a simple router/nat with ubuntu over a pppoe ISP. a configure my connection with pppoeconf.. this work great. when a do ifup eth1 (to enable my 2th card) my pppoe connection when down until a do "pon dsl-provider" do you know why??
[00:03] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: see what genii said
[00:03] <xoox> j85wilson: Will that keep the mount options from fstab as well?
[00:03] <Flux_teh_Fox> !patience
[00:03] <j85wilson> xoox: I think so?
[00:03] <i-pink> Jack_Sparrow : go to what ??
[00:03] <_ampul> !patience
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> i-pink google
[00:03] <xoox> j85wilson: It's telling me the block device is write-protected.
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !fishing
[00:03] <Hok30> If I use this method, (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/live-ubuntu-810-usb-persistent-install-windows/) could I unplug the USB drive and use it on a different computer to boot up with Ubuntu?
[00:04] <j85wilson> xoox: tell me more about your situation
[00:04] <tiredbones> What is a better way to do a dist upgrade? create a iso image or use synaptic and upgrade what's on my system?
[00:04] <slomorbo> hi, i'm doing a simple router/nat with ubuntu over a pppoe ISP. a configure my connection with pppoeconf.. this work great. when a do ifup eth1 (to enable my 2th card) my pppoe connection when down until a do "pon dsl-provider" do you know why??
[00:04] <Flux_teh_Fox> I'm using amarok 1,4 in GNOME, and when I right-click on a visualization window to make it full screen,
[00:04] <Flux_teh_Fox> it appears for a second and goes back to windowed mode
[00:04] <constantine_> anybody here good with Cairo?
[00:04] <i-pink> Jack_Sparrow : hehehe
[00:04] <Anne> I just Installed Opera, where can I find it on my HDD?
[00:05] <j85wilson> !!
[00:05] <adaptr> Anne: why do you need to find it on your HDD ?
[00:05] <mandrig> constantine_: Have you tried Avant Window Navigator?
[00:05] <Flux_teh_Fox> you should just be able to run opera ,correct?
[00:05] <Flux_teh_Fox> run the command "opera"*
[00:05] <constantine_> mandrig: no what is that
[00:05] <mandrig> !awn
[00:05] <Anne> adaptr: I want an icon next to my FF icon
[00:05] <andersolsen> Hello
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> constantine_ awn is like cairo, but crashes more often
[00:05] <Hok30> 	If I use this method, (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/live-ubuntu-810-usb-persistent-install-windows/) could I unplug the USB drive and use it on a different computer to boot up with Ubuntu?
[00:05] <cdeszaq1> what user does apache run as in ubuntu?
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Anne create a new launcher for opera
[00:06] <mandrig> constantine_: I've not had that many problems with it Jack_Sparrow , haha
[00:06] <Madpilot> Anne, right-click on your panel, create launcher
[00:06] <Flux_teh_Fox> root, isn't it?
[00:06] <C45iDY> Hi. i need to compile the asm file in my ubuntu. Please tell me how ?
[00:06] <Lincid> Jack_Sparrow: You've had crashing problems with AWN?
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mandrig as a rule, it does cause us more issues
[00:06] <nickrud_> cdeszaq1, www-data
[00:06] <adaptr> Anne: open up your internet menu, and drag Opera from there to the launch bar
[00:06] <andersolsen> I have a problem i can not installed my soundcard driver. Is that enybody so can help me to do that
[00:06] <xoox> j85wilson: Not sure. /var/log/messages doesn't have any relevant info. Disks are old as sin though.
[00:06] <Anne> I get that far... but whatś next? I cannot find opera
[00:06] <xoox> disk*
[00:07] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: so there is no way to get it to work? this where I found it http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5826879&postcount=4
[00:07] <cdeszaq1> nickrud_: thank you
[00:07] <Anne> adaptr: Opera is not in my internet menu
[00:07] <mandrig> Anne: Alternatively, you could hit <alt> + <F2> and the type opera to run opera
[00:07] <j85wilson> xoox: I mean, you are running ubuntu, yes?  some sort of system with old disks.  You booted it up, and root was never remounted rw?
[00:07] <Hok30> My computer's CD Drive is broken, and I cannot boot. I had Windows on it, but it stopped working, so I would like to run Ubuntu on it. How can i install it via flash drive?
[00:07] <Anne> adaptr: My bad... It was
[00:07] <j85wilson> xoox: how about dmesg?
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > Hok30
[00:08] <xoox> j85wilson: No, running Ubuntu system. All of sudden noticed a problem with files not getting written. I then saw that the disks were ro.
[00:08] <C45iDY> Hi. i need to compile the asm file in my ubuntu. Please tell me how ? Any easy sollution ?
[00:08] <Hok30> Jack_Sparrow: What do you mean?
[00:08] <idleone> what do you good folks recommend for video chat with yahoo protocol?
[00:08] <j85wilson> xoox: oh.  bizarre.
[00:08] <xoox> j85wilson: dmesg is boot only right?
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Hok30 See the private message from ubottu about how to do different types of installs
[00:08] <j85wilson> xoox: yeah.
[00:09] <xoox> j85wilson: Google is telling me it might be a hardware problem.
[00:09] <Hok30> Jack_Sparrow: OK...
[00:09] <Anne> Now a trickyer one... I got a asus motherboard with a RAID drive on it, I got 2 disks raided as 1, and formated NTFS, I downloaded the driver from ASUS, How do I install/mount my raided disks
[00:09] <j85wilson> xoox: I was beginning tow onder that myself...
[00:09] <j85wilson> xoox: with old disks, especially.  Check smartctl?  I don't remember its invocation, so check the manpage.
[00:10] <edoceo> So, I'm on Dapper and seeing the 'pcre_fullinfo() error bug' - can't find a fix anywhere - ideas?
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Anne Lose the raid.  that onboard raid stuff inst real raid anyhow
[00:10] <tiredbones> What is a better way to do a dist upgrade? create a iso image or use synaptic and upgrade what's on my system?
[00:10] <Anne> Jack_Sparrow: Can't. Got lots of stuff on those drives I do not want to lose
[00:10] <niku> IdleOne, I'm pretty sure there's a yahoo IM client for linux
[00:10] <xoox> j85wilson: I've tried everything here with no luck: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=452563
[00:10] <IntuitiveNipple> Anne: It may use the dm-raid driver
[00:10] <jmccaffrey> What is the best way to make a diff of an entire folder including the creation and deletion of images and other binary files?
[00:11] <jmccaffrey> I want to create a patch for a website deploy
[00:11] <IdleOne> niku,  thank you I will google
[00:11] <mcgohenn> IdleONe: Pidgin will allow for Yahoo
[00:11] <Anne> IntuitiveNipple: dm-raid driver?
[00:11] <Hok30> Jack_Sparrow: None of the websites helped me :(
[00:11] <IdleOne> mcgohenn, but it does not support video and voice chat yet
[00:11] <jobless> hey guys, can anyone help me find out why my usb pci card is not working on 8.04?
[00:11] <niku> jmccaffrey, tar has an option to make differential changes, but you could also use rsync
[00:11] <constantine_> I think that cairo isn't working because I didn't save it in the startup, how do I fix that?
[00:11] <Hok30> Jack_Sparrow: ... Helped me so that I could understand.
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Hok30 1st you could not have read them all, and two, they cover your question sprcifically
[00:11] <rootsnatch> jobless: shure whats lsusb saying?
[00:12] <slusken> how do you uninstall the 180.22 nvidia drivers? ubuntu 8.10?
[00:12] <jmccaffrey> niku: Can rsync create a patch file?
[00:12] <rootsnatch> slusken: how did you install them
[00:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Anne: depending what kind of RAID format the motherboard BIOS/chipset uses. Many of the so-called 'fake' or software RAID controllers work with the kernel's dm-raid module.
[00:12] <jobless> rootsnatch, I am using a belkin 5 port USB 2.0 pci card. My system gives some ata errors and won't boot up
[00:12] <niku> jmccaffrey... it can compare two directories and show you which ones changed
[00:12] <j85wilson> xoox: you ran the hdparm stuff?  You're braver than I.  hdparm scares the fire out of me.
[00:12] <niku> jmccaffrey, but not directly
[00:12] <jobless> rootsnatch, it boots up when I remove the card.
[00:12] <mandrig> tiredbones: It depends on if you want to have the older version available or not. If you want to have the older version available, you can repartition your disk and install the newer version, or if you just want to dist-upgrade, you can sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:13] <j85wilson> xoox: a reboot didn't fix things?
[00:13] <xoox> j85wilson: The trick is to be ignoranta.
[00:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Anne: for example, all the Promise Fastrak RAID formats are supported by dm-raid, as is Intel versions.
[00:13] <rootsnatch> jobless: there are ata errors?
[00:13] <xoox> ignorant*
[00:13] <xoox> j85wilson: Haven't tried yet. Running fsck
[00:13] <jobless> rootsnatch, yes
[00:13] <smithwar> hi
[00:13] <Hok30> Jack_Sparrow: Um... I skimmed them, nothing caught my eye. What I saw was a lot of articles telling me how to set it up if I was setting up Ubuntu as a seperate OS.
[00:13] <Anne> IntuitiveNipple: How do I acces/configure/whatever dm-raid?
[00:13] <smithwar> any 1 here
[00:13] <slusken> rootsnatch sh filename
[00:13] <smithwar> im a new user just today
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !iso
[00:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[00:14] <jobless> rootsnatch, ata1 failed to recover some devices is the specific error. It then throws me a initramfs prompt
[00:14] <dou213> thx very much bernz for your help ;) gl mate
[00:14] <rootsnatch> jobless: hmmm have you googled around?
[00:14] <smithwar> how can you ppl install tar.gz or bz
[00:14] <Anne> IntuitiveNipple: I do not think this is a software raid tho...
[00:14] <j85wilson> well, xoox, after fsck, which is probably a good idea, try a reboot, see if that fixes it, if not, check dmesg and all.
[00:15] <Hok30> Jack_Sparrow: The Sudo mount command suggests that I would already have my computer running. And I've looked through the install stuff already.
[00:15] <Hok30> !automate
[00:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Anne: most on-board 'RAID' is - hardware RAID is much more expensive
[00:15] <jobless> rootsnatch, yes, I found that one solution was to edit, /etc/intiramfs-tools/modules .. but I don't even have the initramfs-tools directory under etc
[00:15] <dhq> how do i use 2 internet connections togeather
[00:15] <smithwar> so whats the topic here
[00:15] <Hok30> !cloning
[00:15] <dhq> how do i use 2 internet connections togeather
[00:15] <tiredbones> mandrig, I have plone and some other stuff I don't want to have to re-install. Have you ever done a apt-get dist-upgrade.
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> dhq Please dont repeat
[00:15] <Anne> IntuitiveNipple: then it probebly is, so how do I mount my NTFS disk?
[00:15] <bernz> cheers, dou213
[00:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Anne: check the Asus specifications for the motherboard
[00:16] <dhq> Jack_Sparrow: my mistake
[00:16] <jobless> rootsnatch, i found that solution on launchpad, bug 104581
[00:16] <xoox> j85wilson: fsck reporting many errors. I think will try to fix them and use the -c flag.
[00:16]  * bernz is one slow mafk
[00:16] <xoox> j85wilson: Is SMART available on old disks.
[00:16] <xoox> ?
[00:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Anne: I've done the same thing in the past for NTFS on RAID-1... In linux ensure the dm-raid module is loaded and use dmraid to configure the array, then add it to /etc/fstab as with any other file-system
[00:16] <rootsnatch> slusken: ummmmmm i think it is a kernel module then
[00:16] <j85wilson> xoox: perhaps not.  Not sure how old is the threshold.
[00:17] <Archonian> is it just me, or is it damn hard to install themes in ubuntu?
[00:17] <smithwar> damit can any 1 read what i write
[00:17] <Hok30> Jack_Sparrow: All I really need is a way to get an installer on my USB drive, have my other non-working system recognize it so that I can change the boot order.
[00:17] <smithwar> what the hell is this anyway
[00:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Anne: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/dmraid
[00:17] <mandrig> tiredbones: yeah I have, it shouldn't rewrite your /home directory which is likely where you installed plone.
[00:17] <^hashbang^> smithwar: I see what you are saying
[00:17] <^hashbang^> smithwar: what's your question?
[00:17] <smithwar> thnx
[00:17] <rootsnatch> jobless: hmmmmm
[00:17] <Madpilot> Archonian, download the theme files, drag them into the open Theme Manager window. done.
[00:17] <slusken> umm okay so if i wanna update my drivers to a new version dont i need to uninstall them?
[00:18] <DefineByte> seems it set itself to output over the SPDIF. Ah well, working now. :)
[00:18] <mandrig> Archonian: have you heard of the program gnome-art?
[00:18] <sagredo> what's the off topic channel?
[00:18] <mandrig> !gnome-art
[00:18] <sagredo> !ubottu
[00:18] <tiredbones> mandrig, thanks. I'll find some more docs before I begin.
[00:18] <Madpilot> sagredo, #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:18] <sagredo> pffftt my wetware > your software
[00:19] <jp_sf> !off-topic | sagredo
[00:19] <mandrig> Archonian: sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[00:19] <Anne> IntuitiveNipple: OK thanks
[00:19] <rootsnatch> jobless: are you sure you dont have the initramfs-tools directory
[00:19] <jobless> rootsnatch, wait, i see the directory now when I booted up the machine (w/o the card). But the solution is for hard disks. Any other Ideas?
[00:19] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: not trying to nag, I have other possible solutions but I was just wondering if there was a way to install that pkg for ibex, but you said that there see what genni said and I didn't catch till just now whos genni
[00:20] <jobless> rootsnatch, I didn't see the directory when I was in initramfs prompt
[00:20] <slusken> rootsnatch : umm okay so if i wanna update my drivers to a new version dont i need to uninstall them? (sry lots of rootsnatch highlighting here :P )
[00:20] <mcgohenn> I am having an isue with soundjuicer, I have everything installed to rip .mp3, however with Soundjuicer configured to use .mp3, it will only rip to .flac
[00:20] <^hashbang^> smithwar: /load theme greenbox
[00:20] <^hashbang^> oops
[00:20] <rootsnatch> slusken: not in my experience, the installer sees the old one and just installs over and everything is generally good
[00:20] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: "<genii> IntuitiveNipple: The vx6000 worked on my 8.10 box using the Microdia driver"
[00:20] <slusken> okay thanks alot!
[00:21] <Archonian> mandrig: i installed it, how do i use it?
[00:21] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: so how do I install the driver?
[00:21] <mandrig> Archonian: it should be in System > Preferences > Art-Manager
[00:22] <Archonian> madpilot: i get an error message when i do that, but maybe i've been doing it the wrong way
[00:22] <rootsnatch> jobless: i think you should try the fix, it looks like that card is playing around with the ata card so this might work
[00:22] <Anne> IntuitiveNipple: How do I check what partitions Ubuntu sees?
[00:22] <Anne> ls -l?
[00:22] <jobless> rootsnatch, hehe, why not. I am doing it now :)
[00:22] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: I don't know, I only packaged it once to help someone test it. It will depend on which source-code you use. I made it simple by using DKMS but most others expect you to use manual build tools
[00:22] <rootsnatch> Anne: try just fdisk /dev/sd and then press tab and see what comes up
[00:22] <IntuitiveNipple> Anne: cat /proc/partitions
[00:22] <rootsnatch> jobless: make sure to make a backup of copy of the file just in case
[00:22] <yoyoned> Anne: Menu>places>computer
[00:23] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: ok thanks
[00:23] <smithwar> so how do  you install tar.gz files after downloading thm from firefox
[00:23] <jobless> rootsnatch, I see that it is just some comments right now
[00:23] <rootsnatch> jobless: right just make a backup up copy in case
[00:23] <Anne> yoyoned: Not just the mounted partitions, also the unmounted
[00:23] <rootsnatch> jobless: and then edit away
[00:23] <bernz> smithwar: first you'll have to decompress them with gzip (gunzip)
[00:23] <luddite> li am trying to delete a instal of 8.04 because my 8.10 is perfect. I have partition questions though here http://paste.ubuntu.com/116258/
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> smithwar a tar is like a zip, they can contain anything.  I suggest you see what installation instructions they provide with their software
[00:24] <yoyoned> Anne:sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[00:24] <bernz> smithwar, that will take away the '.gz' part, typically
[00:24] <smithwar> ok
[00:24] <jp_sf> mcgohenn: you need to install a plugin gstreamer
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Anne sudo fdisk -l
[00:24] <smithwar> after i unzip them what should i do
[00:24] <bernz> smithwar, then you can untar it using tar... usually something like 'tar -xvf filenameoftarredfile' to see progress as it works
[00:25] <jobless> rootsnatch, I did ;) and now I am done and about to reboot.. brb
[00:25] <drash> smithwar: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Handling_.28Tar.2FGZip.29_and_.28Tar.2FBzip2.29_archives
[00:25] <Maverick> ?
[00:25] <bernz> you can do these in one line, when you get more familiar with piping and command-line
[00:25] <mcgohenn> jp_sf: I have gstreamer0.10-plugin-ugly, lame, and ubuntu-restricted already installed
[00:25] <Anne> do i need to install something before i can reed/write ntfs partitions?
[00:25] <jp_sf> smithwar: go in the directory look for a README or INSTALL
[00:25] <mcgohenn> jp_sf: I ran through wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats already
[00:26] <smithwar> ok
[00:26] <yoyoned> !ntfs|anne
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Anne YOu should be able to read, but they are sometimes locked down by windows if you have trouble writing
[00:27] <jp_sf> mcgohenn: ok good and then when you  open soundjuicer and go to Edit > Preference > output and select MP3
[00:27] <smithwar> thnx
[00:27] <mcgohenn> jp_sf: after installing the files, it showed the .mp3 format as an option, and started ripping to .flac
[00:28] <mcgohenn> jp_sf: I have disabled all options except .mp3, and it persists with the .flac
[00:28] <smithwar> can some 1 hack me on xubuntu cus i really dont know anything about linux
[00:29] <hommeentete> hello everyone -- i have an external hard drive that i want a user (not root) to be able to write to... I have the folder that I mount it to owned by that user, but when i mount the disk it switches to be owned by root and the root group - and then it doesn't let me change it.  how should i set it up so that a user other than root can write to a mounted disk?
[00:29] <jp_sf> mcgohenn: just to make sure you have MP3 under Edit > Preference ?
[00:29] <mcgohenn> jp_sf: yup
[00:29] <jp_sf> mcgohenn: it's active ?
[00:29] <jp_sf> mcgohenn: checkbox ?
[00:30] <mcgohenn> jp_sf: just double checked, it is active, also checked the others, and the check is not present
[00:30] <eater9> I'm running Intrepid on a 1920x1200 screen, and gnome seems to think the "bottom" of my screen is about an inch from the actual bottom; it puts panels there, etc. -- is there a way to tell it where the actual bottom is?
[00:30] <rootsnatch> hommeentete: i can't remember exactly but i think you need to make sure the user option is set in the fstab
[00:30] <smithwar> how can i play windows xp games like call of duty 4 on ubuntu
[00:30] <Anne> wine
[00:30] <mcgohenn> !wine
[00:30] <smithwar> ubuntu doesn't read exe
[00:30] <hommeentete> rootsnatch: that's at least a start - i appreciate that
[00:31] <prince_jammys> !wine > smithwar
[00:31] <Anne> to start the windwos program, you typ wine programname.exe
[00:31] <Anne> ofc. you need to install wine first
[00:31] <Barnose> Wine reads exe
[00:32] <j85wilson> hey, I've got linux-2.7.27-11 installed, but I'd like to remove it and return to the old kernel (still installed).  How?
[00:32] <vvsh> hello everybody, very simple question, how do i add a process/services to boot time?
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> j85wilson select it in grub menu.lst
[00:32] <Barnose> vvsh, I have no idea
[00:32] <j85wilson> vvsh: system->administration->services
[00:32] <Guest20304> I just installed Graphics Drivers and when i logged back out there was no top tool bar and the terminal doesn't load its just a white screen.
[00:33] <Archonian> mandrig: when in GNOME Art i tried to press install, when selecting a theme, nothing happened. i also tried to download the theme to the desktop, and manually add it to the system-settings-appearance but then it complains about not being able to extract the archive
[00:33] <smithwar> see ya bye and thnx for the info much apre......
[00:33] <vvsh> j85wilson: is there anyway i can do it in commandline?
[00:33] <j85wilson> Jack_Sparrow: trouble is, now when I try to install, say, linux-backports-modules-intrepid, it wants to install the 2.7.27-11 version.
[00:33] <jp_sf> mcgohenn: I think the only explanation is you are missing a package
[00:33] <Shakedown> So if I want to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, it is recommended that I install all available updates for 8.04 - but I don't want 600 updates for language support in Thunderbird and OpenOffice. Do I really have to update everything?
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Archonian normally we drag and drop the tar onto the open theme manager
[00:34] <mcgohenn> jp_sf: that is going to be fun to track down
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Shakedown best to do what it wants and remove them later
[00:34] <Shakedown> How can I remove them later?
[00:34] <j85wilson> vvsh: I think you can do some messing about with /etc/rc.d/*, but really, it is probably best in this case to use the tool, unless you have compelling reason not to.  Way too easy to get things into a messed up state playing with your boot scripts.
[00:34] <hommeentete> eater9: are you sure it's ubuntu that isn't reading the screen right or is it the monitor?  sometimes when i connect a new device i have to hit auto adjust on my monitor
[00:34] <archman> Shakedown: no, just upgrade.
[00:34] <Shakedown> Now I'm getting two different answers!
[00:35] <eater9> hommeentete: it's a laptop
[00:35] <archman> Shakedown: i did it when i was upgrading from gutsy to hardy
[00:35] <hommeentete> eater9: oh.  well then. lol
[00:35] <Archonian> Jack_Sparrow: i tried that to, but it still complains about not being able to extract
[00:35] <cjae> !vl2
[00:35] <j85wilson> vvsh: I've spent a good amount of time deliberately breaking things just so I could see how to fix them, and trust me, your bootscripts are a horrible tangled mess.  You don't want to spend the time to puzzle them out to change them, nor to puzzle them out again to fix them later.
[00:35] <vvsh> j85wilson: thanks
[00:35] <Shakedown> hm
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Archonian then it isnt a valid file or you were trying a gdm theme into the login manager etc
[00:35] <Shakedown> Is there a way to remove things from my Updates Available list?
[00:35] <archman> Shakedown: what jack said, you can remove them later, in synaptic
[00:36] <archman> Shakedown: yes, turning off reps
[00:36] <vvsh> j85wilson: i know what you mean, been there million times. i found a command that does the jobs for me - sysvconfig
[00:36] <j85wilson> ah very nice.  One I wasn't aware of.  Thanks for the tip!
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Shakedown yes, we said you can remove things, but if your upgrade needs one of them you are hosed
[00:36] <Tyler> When i logged back into Ubuntu i noticed there isn't a top toolbar and the terminal wont load?
[00:36] <eater9> i can drag the panels down to where they're supposed to be, but is there any way to make them appear where they should in the first place, instead of in the middle of the screen?
[00:37] <Archonian> Jack_Sparrow: gotcha
[00:37] <cjae> !v4l2
[00:37] <Shakedown> Well the Upgrade page on ubuntu.com says I should have all available updates, but like I said, I don't want to install 700 language packages. That seems like a stupid waste of space to me.
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Archonian np
[00:38] <archman> Shakedown, try upgrading
[00:38] <Mood> is it necessary to forward port 20 as well as port 21 for passive FTP?
[00:38] <archman> Shakedown, button on the top
[00:38] <Shakedown> Without install those packages?
[00:38] <jbuncher> Shakedown:  are they actually for different languages, or are they language packages for different apps?
[00:38] <archman> Shakedown, yes. no point in installing languages, nonsense
[00:39] <Shakedown> They are language supports for like hundreds of languages I've never heard of...I've downloaded all the English ones
[00:39] <anom01y> what problems cause the x server of one user to crash in a system running two users simultaneuosly ?
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> archman they are not what he thinks they are
[00:39] <Shakedown> They are language packages for Thunderbird and OpenOffice
[00:39] <archman> Jack_Sparrow erm...
[00:39] <Lincid> Hi. I'm looking for a simple solution to share some files with a friend. Want him to be able to browse and grab as he pleases.
[00:39] <archman> Shakedown, ^
[00:39] <archman> sorry
[00:40] <archman> Shakedown, try to upgrade already, so you'll see what it'll do
[00:40] <Ashok_> can anyone here help me out with getting my intrepid livecd to boot?
[00:40] <nickrud_> archman, you can install localepurge
[00:40] <archman> Ashok_ you just need to burn image to disk
[00:41] <Ashok_> yeah...i can get into the bootmenu on the livecd, it starts up, plays teh login sound, and then gives me a white screen
[00:41] <Ashok_> i can get some pretty crazy black lines across it if i press any keys or move the mouse
[00:41] <mcgohenn> Ashok_ did you burn the ISO, or did you get it in the mail
[00:41] <archman> Ashok_ oh...well...tried another version?
[00:42] <Ashok_> i burned it, tested it on a vm and hashed it: the iso is good
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashok_ To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[00:42] <mcgohenn> Ashok_ and is is 32 / 64 bit, per your computer
[00:42] <archman> Ashok_ or try safe graphics mode
[00:42] <Ashok_> its 64 bit for my core 2
[00:42] <Maverick> bye
[00:42] <Ashok_> how do i put it into gfx safe mode?
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashok_ not all core 2 are 64 are they?
[00:43] <Cody1> How can you see if you have 2 internet cards on your machine?
[00:43] <archman> Ashok_ you can choose on the menu, i believe
[00:43] <Ashok_> ok
[00:43] <Maverick> quit
[00:43] <Ashok_> afaik they are...i know the proc supports 64 bit
[00:43] <mcgohenn> Cod1: if they are both initiated, try ifconfig
[00:43] <Cody1> What would i be looking for?
[00:43] <Anne> Why do I get Access Deneid when I enter ./Makefile as su
[00:43] <hossam> anyone know the trick to getting virtualbox 2.1.2 to create a valid vmdk for a physical disk? i tried the steps outlined in this guide and it didnt work
[00:43] <hossam> http://blarts.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/how-to-run-virtualbox-using-a-physical-partition-using-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/
[00:44] <mcgohenn> Cody1: the nomer of IP addresses listed
[00:44] <mcgohenn> number
[00:44] <mcgohenn> alternately, eth1, eth2 eth3
[00:44] <hossam> im on ubuntu 8.10 btw
[00:44] <rww> hossam: Try asking in channel #vbox if nobody answers here
[00:44] <Overand> What package handles the 'advanced' auto-completion in bash, that handles things like completion of filenames on remote servers in a line like "scp servername:/file/locat(TAB)" ?
[00:44] <hossam> rww, will do
[00:44] <Cody1> mcgohenn:  I've got Eth1 Eth0 and lo? Is that telling me?
[00:44] <rww> Overand: bash-completion, I think
[00:44] <xoox> Anyone know why a partition would be busy even if it umount (and not listed by mount)?
[00:45] <xoox> I can't fsck
[00:45] <genii> Anne: First: use sudo. Second:  Makefile is not an executable. It's directions for the make command to use
[00:45] <archman> Cody1: yes
[00:45] <archman> Cody1: lan or wlan cards
[00:46] <laughyn1nj4> why does ubuntu put the /home/me/bin directory at the BEGINING of the $PATH instead of the END?  and how can i get ubuntu to put it at the end instead?
[00:46] <nickrud_> Overand, bash-completion ?
[00:47] <nickrud_> laughyn1nj4, it's there to override system commands with your personal version
[00:47] <laughyn1nj4> nickrud: yea, but i don't want anyone(me or others) to be able to do that.
[00:47] <laughyn1nj4> is there anyway to change it?
[00:48] <Flyzoola> hey guys, I'm having problems running GXMame, none of my roms will load because of a LIRC error or something, but I know for a fact that I have everything I need to run the games. Why is this happening?
[00:48] <nickrud_> laughyn1nj4, you'd change it in .profile
[00:48] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: any user can change their default path. like. export PATH=$PATH:/place/bin:/my/src/dir etc etc
[00:48] <laughyn1nj4> nickrud: tried it!  doesn't work.
[00:49] <nickrud_> laughyn1nj4, ah, to make it systemwide you'd change /etc/skel/.bashrc for new users. And you have to either log into a new terminal, or run  source .profile to have it register
[00:49] <Flyzoola> does ubuntu need specific bios for mame roms to run?
[00:49] <archman> Flyzoola give the community the exact error and maybe someone could help you
[00:49] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: ok.  but i don't want to do it manually every time
[00:50] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: you would put that in your ~/.bashrc in your homedir
[00:50] <Flyzoola> archman, the error is huge. From what I gather it's because it's not reading the bios that I have as being there, I could screen shot it if that would make it easier (it's not an ubuntu problem per-se, it's more of a gxmame problem)
[00:50] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: it seems that ubuntu is litterally overriding what i put in .bashrc, or .profile
[00:51] <Krypton> hi guys, im encountering an instlalation problem
[00:51] <btQuark> hello
[00:51] <archman> Flyzoola well, try seeking help on the gxmame boards or so, maybe you'll get help
[00:51] <btQuark> does someone know when the radeon drivers might end up with dri2 in ubuntu?
[00:51] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: in your path? what is being overwritten?
[00:51] <Krypton> When I install XP/Vista/MAndriva.... they all work, but when I install Ubuntu from livecd I get upto 50% then an crash
[00:52] <Krypton> why is this?
[00:52] <^hashbang^> !ait |btQuark
[00:52] <^hashbang^> !ati |btQuark
[00:52] <archman> Krypton: you did md5sum check?
[00:52] <Anne> can someone help me out with DMRAID ?
[00:52] <btQuark> the binary driver is largely worse than the opensource one
[00:52] <Krypton> yes i have downloaded it three times and burned 3 diff. cds and I checked them all
[00:52] <btQuark> they're both stinky but the binary one is a shame
[00:53] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: if i add PATH=$PATH:~/bin to .profile , ubuntu puts ~/bin at the BEGINNING of my path
[00:53] <Krypton> nothing is working, and I am getting extremely frustrated
[00:53] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: ok .. so?
[00:53] <pike__> Krypton: have you tried the server install?
[00:53] <archman> Krypton: strange...maybe hardware compatibility problem...Jack_Sparrow: can he install in the debug mode?
[00:53] <Krypton> whats that?
[00:53] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: I don't use .profile I use .bashrc...
[00:54] <archman> or verbose...
[00:54] <Krypton> this is my hardware: 2 GB Ram, ATI 780g IGP, 2.4 GHZ AMD Dual Proc
[00:54] <the6step> how do I search debian packages from the command line?
[00:54] <linny1> pike__: dont you mean ubuntu base install ? why would he want the server ?
[00:54] <rww> laughyn1nj4: That's because $PATH already has ~/bin at the beginning of it, so PATH=$PATH:~/bin tells it to add ~/bin to the end... but it's already at the beginning...
[00:54] <btQuark> the radeon drivers are actually really fine, they just need dri2, more accel and better function with powerplay
[00:54] <the6step> is there a command in terminal to do it?
[00:54] <pike__> Krypton: the command line only version installer. you can then simply sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to pull all the gui stuff in. might update your kernel too with a sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[00:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> Is the older Ubuntu 8.04 LTS much different from the newer one? I guess the older one is more stable?
[00:54] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: that command should put it at the END ... and i want it at the end
[00:54] <rww> the6step: apt-cache search or aptitude search
[00:54] <rww> Sp0tKubuntu: "newer one"? you mean 8.10?
[00:54] <pike__> linny1: i didnt realize there was a difference
[00:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> rww: Yes
[00:54] <laughyn1nj4> how do i tell ubuntu to stop doing that?
[00:54] <Krypton> pike: how do I do the command line installer
[00:55] <linny1> yes the server installs the server stuff :)
[00:55] <freq18hz> has anyone installed the lastest release kernal w/8.10 on an HP Mini 1000?
[00:55] <rww> Sp0tKubuntu: 8.04 is supported for 3 years (desktop) or 5 years (server). 8.10 is supported for 18 months. 8.04 has older (theoretically more tested) packages.
[00:55] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj: try this from your termial. env | grep PATH | now export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/mypath | then env | grep PATH
[00:55] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu i've seen great improvements from gutsy till now...
[00:55] <pike__> Krypton: its a seperate cd you have to burn
[00:55] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu big differences
[00:55] <linny1> the ubuntu base is only like a 10mb iso
[00:55] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj: the path :/usr/local/mypath should be at the end correct?
[00:55] <pike__> Krypton: the installer itself is very easy not any harder than the livecd installer really
[00:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, then 8.10 is better?
[00:55] <rww> Sp0tKubuntu: for most users, yes
[00:55] <Krypton> yeah, but Im out of CDs and cant go get them
[00:56] <pike__> Sp0tKubuntu: unless you have a legacy nvidia card :(
[00:56] <kjell> Krypton: USB?
[00:56] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu what best suits for you...subjective
[00:56] <Krypton> dont have one here
[00:56] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu for me, it definitely is
[00:56] <vigo> Krypton: WUBI?
[00:56] <archman> till now...
[00:56] <Sp0tKubuntu> pike__: Hmm, i have intergrated graphic
[00:56] <Krypton> i dont have an OS instlaled
[00:56] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu graphics will work )
[00:56] <pressman57> Anyone know anything about hardware? I had a power-source go out (my second), I replaced it and now my computer is actin hinkey - mouse not doing what it should, screen shifting and jumping around. Logic board?
[00:56] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: no workie workie ... and since i'm not a grep guru i don't even know what that's supoded to do so i cant fix it
[00:56] <slusken> ARGH powermizer still not fixed :f
[00:56] <Flyzoola> anybody here use xmame? My roms wont load because of something called LIRC disabling
[00:56] <Krypton> im doing this thru the livecd
[00:57] <linny1> Krypton: i would try ubuntu base install then install graphics drivers then the ubuntu desktop i have an ati card and thats how i had to do it
[00:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, i have seen 8.10 but im afraid is more "unstable" than the older one
[00:57] <Krypton> but ig et upto 50% in th einstall
[00:57] <Krypton> and then it gives me an error
[00:57] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu it's 4 months out, so...
[00:57] <linny1> Krypton: what does the error say ?
[00:57] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: env (just displays your current running enviorement) and | the pipe is taking that output and passing it to "grep" which is then looking for a keyword PATH
[00:58] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu nonsense
[00:58] <Krypton> it says faulty cd drive/hardrive
[00:58] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu can be just better security tight and stabel
[00:58] <linny1> Krypton: did you check the media ?
[00:58] <Krypton> yes
[00:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> That will say its ok? But what if i like KDE then? I have Kubuntu 8.10 64 bit installed now
[00:58] <Zombie_Gaz> Still trying to get an answer for this... I use gnome-terminal and want to get full ansi colour support. Anyone have any ideas how to do that. Do I need a specific font and / or term? I can see the correct colours but they have strange symbols.
[00:58] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: why would'nt i just echo $PATH ?
[00:58] <Krypton> so i dont know what the problem could be
[00:58] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: copy paste this: env | grep PATH (copy paste fromt he "env" part to the PATH part)
[00:58] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu the same, i believe, KDE has great apps ;)
[00:58] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me fix my mic?
[00:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, thats also worth thinkin about i think, stability
[00:59] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: you can do that too
[00:59] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu i don't love the xp feel, though, gnome for me :)
[00:59] <laughyn1nj4> hash:  shows my ~/bin ad the beginning ... i want it at the end
[00:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> archman: Ok, i like the new KDE more than Gnome, but the older KDE is not a beaty i think :-D
[00:59] <^hashbang^> try opening a new termianl
[00:59] <^hashbang^> terminal
[00:59] <linny1> Krypton: heres the base install iso if you have usb you can put it on that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:00] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu backup your system, and try it
[01:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> archman: Coming from Vista, so KDE looks a little more "alike", if you should compare then
[01:00] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang:yep...same thing
[01:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> them*
[01:00] <linny1> Krypton: it sounds like bad media tbh
[01:00] <constantine_> somehow my menu bar at the top is all sideways, don't know what my friend did to it
[01:00] <constantine_> how do I fix to the way it was
[01:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> archman: Maybe just try af live?
[01:00] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: try using the full path and not ~/bin
[01:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> a*
[01:00] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu right!
[01:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, i say thanks then :-)
[01:00] <mcgohenn> constantine_: all sideways, as in up and down the side of the screen?
[01:00] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: i am doing that ... just using the ~ as a shorcut for the chat
[01:00] <archman> Sp0tKubuntu np;)
[01:01] <tiredbones> I'm trying to backup my home directory using brasero. I select the project for burning data. transfer my home directory to the add area. select "burn". give a label to the cd. it runs for a few minutes and the screens go away. I 'm assuming that it done. I install the cd again and it is blank. what is up!!!.
[01:01] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: ah ... hmm I've even done the ~/bin in my path "with the ~" and I still get it added to the end of my path
[01:01] <constantine_> cgohenn: no the menu is at the top but the drop down text is vertical and cut off
[01:01] <^hashbang^> can you pastebin your env output
[01:01] <vigo> tiredbones: Have you tried HUB?
[01:02] <sagredo> yo yo yo! with my update to 8.10 I no longer have a link to my network manager
[01:02] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: pastebin?
[01:02] <sagredo> where's it at!
[01:02] <mifritscher> hi
[01:02] <cphillips> i can i get amarok to eject my ipod when i hit the "disconnect" button? it removes it from the desktop but it still shows up under Places in my panel.
[01:02] <mifritscher> is there a way to supress as much configure-questions as possible while installing packages?
[01:02] <rww> !paste | laughyn1nj4
[01:02] <cphillips> how*
[01:02] <tiredbones> vigo, what is HUB? I have tried GnomeBaker. that was even worse.
[01:03] <^hashbang^> oh laughynlnj4: take out the PATH export you have in your .profile, then source ~/.profile then do the export PATH=$PATH:~/bin again
[01:03] <Dillizar> is there any way i can put moving background for my desktop
[01:03] <laughyn1nj4> hash: ok
[01:03] <laughyn1nj4> hold on
[01:03] <vigo> tiredbones: HUB is Home User Backup, it makes it easy and simple, there is also baccula, I prefer HUB
[01:04] <kattollikisd> hi everyone, I can't see videos on the firefox using the Totem plug-in. Can someone just give me a hand? thanks
[01:04] <linny1> kattollikisd: what videos like you tube and stuff ?
[01:04] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, give me the link pls
[01:04] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: if that doesnt' work, try opening another new terminal and then verify that the .profile entry you had is gone with echo $PATH, then export your new PATH again
[01:04] <pike__> kattollikisd: ive never used the totem plugin. the only advise i could give would be to use the mplayer one
[01:04] <tiredbones> vigo, thanks. I'll go look for some docs on HUB.
[01:05] <constantine_> my menu bar items at the top are vertical text and I want to make them horizontal again
[01:05] <neuma22> is it possible to have a specific connection (the ssh tunnel) being delivered through a specific gateway while having a different default gateway for the rest?
[01:05] <drash> Dillizar: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/12/15/animated-wallpaper-on-your-ubuntu-810-desktop/ might be of interest to you
[01:05] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, why you dont try right click open with totem
[01:05] <vigo> My pleasure,,,it is in the Synaptic package manager, just search Back Ups or back up
[01:05] <laughyn1nj4> hash: remind me where .profile is?
[01:05] <athaki> Will Jaunty be able to import documents and settings from Vista?
[01:06] <kattollikisd> linny1, is not a youtube videos, Dillizar, the mplayer so not work because something is happening to my grafic card right now... This is the link http://www.freefullmovies.net/movies/wanted.html
[01:06] <Dillizar> drash, thanks man :)
[01:06] <drash> Dillizar: yw :)
[01:06] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: /etc/profile I mean (if that's the location that you placed your path to ~/bin)
[01:06] <Dillizar> drash, have you tried this
[01:07] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: otherwise, when you open a new terminal is the ~/bin path in your $PATH by default? if not, then nm
[01:07] <the6step> how do I remove a package I installed with aptitude through terminal
[01:07] <the6step> I can't use synaptic
[01:07] <^hashbang^> sudo apt-get remove "package name"
[01:07] <g4lt-lappy> athaki: asking to import your settings from vista is a bit much, given that ubuntu uses an entirely different system for settings
[01:07] <laughyn1nj4> hash: yea...it's there by default
[01:07] <laughyn1nj4> no mater what i do
[01:08] <g4lt-lappy> documents, depends on the app you used to make them
[01:08] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: ok where did you place it?
[01:08] <drash> Dillizar: yes, it worked ok (but i returned to my smooth simple no-frills desktop wallpaper (just tested it out of curiosity)
[01:08] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: ~/.bashrc? /etc/profile?
[01:08] <tekteen> does anyone know a cmd that will download a file only if it has changed?
[01:08] <laughyn1nj4> hash:toward the bottom of the file ... is that what your asking?
[01:08] <athaki> Well, it was worth asking anyway. Thanks! :D
[01:08] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: bottom of .bashrc?
[01:08] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, the playback of this movie requires a text/html decoder plugin which is not installed
[01:08] <jrib> tekteen: how are you supposed to determine if it has changed?
[01:09] <laughyn1nj4> hash: no, bottom of .profile
[01:09] <^hashbang^> tekteen: man rsync
[01:09] <tekteen> jrib: if the date last modified changed?
[01:09] <WebcamWonder> tekteen: wget has a flag that supports it, although I don't have access to man right now
[01:09] <jrib> tekteen: download from where?
[01:09] <tekteen> ^hashbang^: I do not control the server
[01:09] <jeeves_Moss> what programs are there out there for the wardriving equivilent for Bluetooth?
[01:09] <g4lt-lappy> the6step: sudo apt-get remove works, add the --purge switch if you want to get rid of the package file
[01:09] <rww> WebcamWonder: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ tends to be useful :)
[01:09] <constantine__> how do you make the menu text on the top panel horizontal when it has gone vertical?
[01:09] <tekteen> ftp://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/observations/metar/cycles/
[01:09] <^hashbang^> tekteen: you don't need control of the server to use rsync. you can even use rsync and ssh together...
[01:09] <anom01y> is it normal for firefox to crash the x user of another user ?
[01:10] <WebcamWonder> rww: By I don't have access, I mean, I am too lazy to open up even the terminal :P
[01:10] <g4lt-lappy> constantine_drag and drop
[01:10] <rww> WebcamWonder: oh, I see :)
[01:10] <tekteen> ^hashbang^: it is a public ftp server, no ssh
[01:10] <rdw200169> jeeves_Moss, you're not gonna get a whole lot of help on that here.  we try to stay legal in how we do things in this channel
[01:10] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: where is this .profile file?
[01:10] <jeeves_Moss> rdw200169, I guess the better question would have been "bluetooth utilities"
[01:10] <^hashbang^> tekteen: yea, wget is your best bet then...
[01:11] <tekteen> ^hashbang^: I looked through the entire man page
[01:11] <tekteen> I found nothing on date last modified
[01:11] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: it's actualy in my ~/ dir
[01:11] <kattollikisd> Dillizar, Exacly, that was the totem say "the playback of this movie requires a text/html decoder plugin which is not installed"
[01:11] <tekteen> unless it was in recursive mirror mode
[01:11] <tekteen> ^hashbang^: ^
[01:11] <WebcamWonder> tekteen: -N is the one you are looking for: turns on timestamping
[01:11] <rdw200169> kattollikisd, i think the MIME type for the file you want to play is screwed up
[01:11] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: ok do a mv .profile to profile just for this test
[01:11] <tekteen> thanks
[01:12] <Dillizar> so install it :D kattollikisd
[01:12] <bernz> jeeves_Moss, the most rewarding experience is to write your own utilities.  then you will truly understand the protocols. then you might even get a job as an expert. but usually it's just for fun. :-)
[01:12] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> Hi I hope that this is from Ubuntu.com
[01:12] <vigo> tekteen: there is a program in Ubuntu/Debian that automates that, sorta,
[01:12] <the6step> g4lt-lappy: thank you
[01:12] <laughyn1nj4> hash: m'
[01:12] <laughyn1nj4> hash: m'kay ... then open a new term?
[01:12] <laughyn1nj4> or should i source it first?
[01:12] <g4lt-lappy> np
[01:12] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: yea
[01:12] <WebcamWonder> tekteen: Here is an example doc. http://www.editcorp.com/Personal/Lars_Appel/wget/wget_5.html
[01:12] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: lol
[01:12] <rdw200169> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-, yes, this is the *official* (in the most liberal sense of the term) channel for ubuntu support
[01:13] <kattollikisd> Dillizar, what I have to install?
[01:13] <Guest15306> hi, i having trouble with firefox  when i organize my bookmarks somehow when i close the browser and re-open no changes happen?
[01:13] <tekteen> WebcamWonder: thanks. I am planning on putting it in a program. wget works on windows too so it can someday be ported :-)
[01:13] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> ok I think something is wrong with a mail. I never receive a mail with Ubuntu's new version since last October. I actually clicked on submit.
[01:14] <rdw200169> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-, you're talking about a problem you're having with Evolution, the e-mail client?
[01:14] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> That's right after you released Ubuntu's new version....
[01:14] <WebcamWonder> tekteen: No problems. Glad to help :)
[01:14] <laughyn1nj4> hash: did it ... no change
[01:14] <Ashok_> hey i'm having some livecd trouble...i tried to run it in gfx safemode and removed the splash and silent options on the boot line, and now i just have a command prompt.  I tried startx and got Fatal server error: no screens found giving up.
[01:14] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: dude... this is spooky
[01:14] <baxou_> I'm maybe asking a silly question, but I wonder if someone has a good programming irc server to propose me?
[01:15] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: pastbin.com your env, and pastbin.com your command you are using to export with
[01:15] <laughyn1nj4> hash : yea ... really thick
[01:15] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> Let me look into my account and date.
[01:15] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, cant seem to find the plug in
[01:15] <Ashok_> can anyone help me with an x server fatal error?
[01:15] <rdw200169> Ashok_, well, i'm not *sure* but you could try to use the script /etc/init.d/gdm... this works on the regular install, i don't know about the livecd though
[01:15] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: paste.ubuntu.com
[01:15] <laughyn1nj4> !paste
[01:16] <JonasNZ> Hi Guys, Which is the best channel to get support for making apt packages?
[01:16] <bernz> Guest15306: i know it's not a "quick fix", but with some web searching, you'll find out exactly where firefox for ubuntu (gnu linux) stores your bookmark file, usually in the subdirectory-sub-tree of your home directory ('/home/yourusername'), in a "secret"/"hidden" directory starting with a period
[01:16] <sagredo> how can I generate a list of all the programs I've installed that aren't default?
[01:16] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> 1 CDs requested       on 2008-11-09.                                  1           CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company           on 2008-11-10.           Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to             deliver, depending on the country of shipping.
[01:16] <jpedroza> Hello all. I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and trying to get DVD playback working. The DVD will play the intros, warnings, etc. but when it tries to load the menu it gives a "Failed to connect stream" error.
[01:16] <g4lt-lappy> baxou_: can't get muh better than freenode, which you're on
[01:16] <bernz> aw jeez, i'm too slow to be helpful.  :-/
[01:17] <jpedroza> I can only imagine that I am missing some DVD playback package, but I am not sure which.
[01:17] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, http://tinyurl.com/bduh85
[01:17] <bernz> (gotta stop cooking dinner while IRCing... :-)
[01:17] <pckchem> Anyone have some experience with regex want to help me with something real quick?
[01:17] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, click on the first link :)
[01:17] <kattollikisd> Dillizar, I think that I have all plug-in installed already
[01:17] <ASrock> i am using ubuntu with x11vnc how do i allow my computer to be controlled over the internet?
[01:18] <sagredo> how can I generate a list of all the programs I've installed that aren't default?
[01:18] <kattollikisd> Dillizar, ok...
[01:18] <Pici> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: We do not have control over shipit.ubuntu.com here.  I believe that there is a contact email address on their site that you can use if you are having issues with your order.
[01:18] <jpedroza> I should mention that this is in Totem
[01:19] <tiredbones> vigo, I installed HUB. How do you start it?
[01:19] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> Is that ok if I click on submit again?
[01:19] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: hey man I got to go... sorry
[01:19] <|mr> Do Intel graphics cards model 4500MHD  work with Ubuntu?
[01:19] <laughyn1nj4> hashbang: what?  i pull down my pants (paste my env) and you're just going to leave?
[01:20] <kattollikisd> Dillizar, alright... o.0 you want me to search?
[01:20] <Pici> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: Why don't you use the 'check the status of an existing request' link?
[01:20] <ricardo_> anyway to put widgets like in Mac OS X
[01:20] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: I need to get home for the kids
[01:20] <ricardo_> anyway to put widgets like in Mac OS X
[01:20] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: ok where is the link
[01:20] <ricardo_> anyway to put widgets like in Mac OS X
[01:20] <laughyn1nj4> i pm'd ya
[01:20] <ricardo_> anyway to put widgets like in Mac OS X
[01:20] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> I did
[01:20] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, sorry man but i like the web :D its awesome :D
[01:20] <^hashbang^> ricardo_  screenlets
[01:20] <ricardo_> anyway to put widgets like in Mac OS X
[01:20] <Pici> ricardo_: stop repeating
[01:20] <IntuitiveNipple> pckchem, try me with your regexp
[01:20] <jpedroza> ricardo_: If someone knew they would respond
[01:20] <^hashbang^> ricardo_  screenlets
[01:20] <vigo> tiredbones: It is in or should be in, System>Administrator>Hubbackup, there is a nice GUI , get a CD-r or whatever and just make a backup.
[01:20] <Dillizar> ricardo_, what do ya want
[01:21] <^hashbang^> ricardo_  sudo apt-get install screenlets will give you widgets
[01:21] <Dillizar> ah ricardo_ wait few sec
[01:21] <tiredbones> vigo, Thanks. I found it after i ask the question.
[01:21] <^hashbang^> laughynlnj4: /away
[01:21] <^hashbang^> ricardo_  sudo apt-get install screenlets will give you widgets
[01:21] <ASrock> are there any vnc servers for ubuntu that have a gui?
[01:21] <kattollikisd> Dillizar, if you say so (I hate google... but you let me with one choose) thanks anyway
[01:21] <pckchem> IntuitiveNipple: I need to match a word after another word. For example, any word that comes after the word "in"
[01:22] <Dillizar> ricardo_, http://tinyurl.com/ceve2b this will help
[01:22] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, but i think i saw the answer in some forum
[01:22] <pckchem> IntuitiveNipple: so for example, "in firefox-3.0" should match firefox-3.0
[01:22] <Krypton> guys, im  back, even more frustrated than ever
[01:22] <Krypton> lol
[01:22] <eper3z> hey howcome my my arrow keys arents being picked up?
[01:22] <Dillizar> ricardo_, this is the right link http://tinyurl.com/aehdo6
[01:23] <kattollikisd> well Dillizar, I'll do ma'best
[01:23] <eper3z> using windows keyboard, and my arrow keys arent working in 8.10 intre any clue?
[01:23] <Krypton> so basically what I want to do is install ubuntu on my whole HD and i get an error after 50% of the install
[01:23] <ricardo_> who ever got my computer do that show me please!
[01:23] <Krypton> what should I do computer 1337
[01:23] <pckchem> IntuitiveNipple: It seemed really easy at first, but I'm having trouble getting any regex I write to match anything past the "in", no matter how greedy I write the expression
[01:23] <Dillizar> kattollikisd, or just try another web joox.net or smt like that
[01:23] <Dillizar> ricardo_, are you talking bout the google :D
[01:24] <ricardo_> yes about the google
[01:24] <IntuitiveNipple> pckchem: /in ([\w-]+)/
[01:24] <Dillizar> what do ya want to know ricardo_  its a web site called www.letmegooglethatforyou.com
[01:24] <IntuitiveNipple> pckchem: Are you writing it for sed? That has some limitations that can bite
[01:24] <detabbed> hi, does anyone know how to do this?
[01:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm! I just ran Ubuntu 8.04 LTS live CD, and i have not subtitle playing DVD, but i have in Ubuntu 8.10!
[01:24] <detabbed> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141078
[01:25] <pckchem> IntuitiveNipple: javascript
[01:25] <Dillizar> ricardo_, its for ppl who are too lazy to type :P
[01:25] <IntuitiveNipple> pckchem: As an aside, a wonderful reference: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
[01:25] <Krypton> so basically what I want to do is install ubuntu on my whole HD and i get an error after 50% of the install, does anyone know what I can do?
[01:25] <IntuitiveNipple> pckchem: OK, what I showed you should work
[01:25] <ricardo_> http://tinyurl.com/5qfhcw
[01:25] <pckchem> IntuitiveNipple: I've been beating myself against that reference for a while now :)
[01:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> How big is the "REAL" performance between 32 bit and 64 bit using linux?
[01:26] <rww> Sp0tKubuntu: for normal users, there isn't much difference
[01:26] <Dillizar> ricardo_, thanks i say that someone from my pc was on a porn site i will kick some ass thanks :D
[01:26] <IntuitiveNipple> pckchem: I think that is a right of passage for regexp
[01:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> rww: What do i have to use my computer for, it i run 64 bitt?
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> rww: If*
[01:27] <rww> Sp0tKubuntu: what?
[01:27] <Krypton> what I want to do is install ubuntu on my whole HD and i get an error after 50% of the install, does anyone know what I can do?
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> rww: Do i have to do something speciel to get something out of 64 bit? I have 64 bit processor, and 4Gb RAM, only showing them all in 64bit
[01:27] <zerko6> anyone here use cacti?
[01:27] <Krypton> please guys, i am frustrated
[01:28] <ryanprior> !patience | krypto
[01:28] <Dillizar> Sp0tKubuntu, its the same linux same kernel i think just with some twigs :P
[01:28] <ricardo_> ok back to bussiness, how do install software with the .rpm extension
[01:28] <Krypton> i am sorry, but i have had this prob. for 3 days now, it is getting to me
[01:28] <Dillizar> Krypton, are you on a live cd
[01:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dillizar: Ok, dosent make sense to make it then
[01:29] <WebcamWonder> ricardo_: It is recommended to get a debian package if it is available
[01:29] <rww> Krypton: it'd be useful if you started by telling us the error you get.
[01:29] <Krypton> yes i am
[01:29] <linny1> ricardo_: rpm is red hat you could comipile from source or find debs
[01:29] <jrib> ricardo_: you try to avoid it and use ubuntu's repositories instead.  What are you trying to install?
[01:29] <Dillizar> Krypton,  is you hdd empty
[01:29] <pckchem> IntuitiveNipple: Hmm, it doesn't seem like its working
[01:29] <Krypton> all it says is that i might have a faulty hd/cd drive
[01:29] <ryanprior> ricardo_: Software with the .rpm extension is designed for Red Hat and derivative distributions, not for Ubuntu or Debian-based distributions. However, it can sometimes be installed using a rpm-to-deb converter called Alien.
[01:29] <Krypton> yes i just emptied it
[01:29] <Dillizar> Krypton, how with windows??
[01:30] <Krypton> what do you mean?
[01:30] <Krypton> vista and xp can install fine
[01:30] <Dillizar> Krypton,  what is the version you are trying to install
[01:30] <Krypton> same with mandriva
[01:30] <Krypton> i am trying to install 8.10
[01:30] <Dillizar> Krypton, if you had vista before there is some problem
[01:30] <Stepan1> Can anyone lead me through using Foremost?
[01:30] <Krypton> what can i do?
[01:30] <Sylphid> Krypton, have you tried running badblocks against your hard drive.. ubuntu wont install if there are more than 3
[01:30] <rainofkayos> wow
[01:30] <Dillizar> Krypton, the bios's set its not the same
[01:31] <Sylphid> Krypton, without som nudging that is
[01:31] <Krypton> what do you mean?
[01:31] <Dillizar> Krypton, there is some setting bout the hdd dunno
[01:31] <WebcamWonder> Dillizar: Do you have anything contributive to add?
[01:31] <Dillizar> :D
[01:31] <Dillizar> why
[01:31] <g4lt-lappy> krypton I'd start taking some of those diagnostic utility's word for it...
[01:32] <pckchem> IntuitiveNipple: Ahh, I need to add \. to the [] expression
[01:32] <Krypton> how do i diagnose my hd, remeber i am runnign a live cd with no os in the background
[01:32] <BG_> Can I partition with 3 Fat32 and 4 ext2
[01:32] <ricardo_> how can i use the scanner on my Lexmark X1270 to work
[01:32] <g4lt-lappy> three systems so far have reported your disk as bad, how many do you need to tell you?
[01:32] <IntuitiveNipple> pckchem: ahh yes... this is it in Perl: perl -e 'print $1 if "in firefox-3.0" =~ /in ([\w-\.]+)/;'
[01:32] <Krypton> what do you mean 3 systems?
[01:32] <blistov2> ?
[01:33] <Sylphid> Krypton, sudo badblocks /dev/sda (sda may be something else on your system)
[01:33] <ricardo_> how can i use the scanner on my Lexmark X1270 to work
[01:33] <luddite> i want to delete a partition that a old (8.04) ubuntu is on without effecting the extended partition with 8.10 installed. Is that possible? Here is my set up  http://paste.ubuntu.com/116258/
[01:33] <pckchem> IntuitiveNipple: I think I was making it too hard with lookaheads.... Ohh well thanks for your help! Saved me a headache.
[01:33] <Stepan1> Can anyone lead me through using Forecast document recovery?
[01:33] <ricardo_> how can i use the scanner on my Lexmark X1270 to work
[01:33] <blistov2> [   90.551333] pciehp: Card not present on Slot(1)
[01:33] <blistov2> [   90.555464] pciehp: Card present on Slot(1)
[01:33] <blistov2> this is repeated about 15 times a second after kernel update.  kills battery life. idea's?
[01:34] <IntuitiveNipple> pckchem: You're welcome... regexps are always a headache... the useful ones anyhow
[01:34] <negativegluebear> is there a reason my S-video out resolution on my laptop maxes out at 1024x768 when going to my HDTV(1080p) 1680x1080?
[01:34] <detabbed> "Basically, i want anyone in group www-data to have write access to /var/www. For example, if 'a' and 'b' are in group www-data. If 'a' creates a file in /var/www 'b' will be able to edit it."  does anyone know how to do that?
[01:34] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> thanks and bye
[01:35] <JesperHansen> Why does eeepc-acpi-scripts package end up removing ubuntu-desktop package and other important packages?
[01:35] <Krypton> sylphid i ran your command but nothing comes up
[01:35] <usser> detabbed, chown the directory to a:www-data, sudo chmod -R <user A>:www-data /var/www
[01:35] <mandrig> detabbed: can you not do that through System > Administration > Users and Groups ?
[01:35] <usser> detabbed, chmod it to 770 sudo chmod -R 770 /var/www
[01:35] <Sylphid> Krypton, is sda your hard drive?
[01:36] <usser> detabbed, and set guid bit on the directory
[01:36] <detabbed> mandrig: server
[01:36] <mandrig> detabbed: ah ha
[01:36] <usser> detabbed, sudo chmod -R g+s /var/www
[01:36] <Krypton> nothing comes up, I just attempted to install ubuntu agian (on a blank HD) and I get the error at 50%
[01:36] <WebcamWonder> negativegluebear: B/c s-video is designed to carry SD signal at 480i or 576i
[01:36] <detabbed> thank you guys :D
[01:36] <Stepan1> I need help using Forecast document recovery
[01:37] <linny1> Krypton: youll need to burn a new cd to rule out a bad disc
[01:37] <negativegluebear> thanks webcamwonder.  exactly what i was wondering.  would the RGB out work, then?
[01:37] <jp_sf> Krypton: a bad iso CD maybe no ?
[01:37] <usser> detabbed, this will basically cause any file created by a user to be owned by www-data group instead of the user's primary group, you may also need to adjust uid mask in /etc/profile so any new files created will have group write permissions
[01:37] <WebcamWonder> negativegluebear: That would be the best any SD could go. For HD, you need any carrier that natively supports HD
[01:37] <tiredbones> vigo, Now that's the way a package should work. And it keeps to the KISS principle.
[01:38] <Pici> Krypton: Have you checked your CD for errors?
[01:38] <Pici> !verify | Krypton
[01:38] <Krypton> ive only got one more CD, so can i donwlaod the ISO from the livecd and burn it from the livecd
[01:38] <Gustavo_G> If there is nothing in the hosts.deny and nothing in the hosts.allow, does that mean that anything should be able to connect to a server on this machine?
[01:38] <detabbed> thank you usser
[01:38] <usser> detabbed, no problem
[01:39] <jp_sf> Krypton: you tried to install it from the live CD ?
[01:39] <baz_> i can attest that foo, bar, baz is typed at least once a day
[01:39] <Krypton> yes
[01:39] <jp_sf> Krytpon: put the nick of the personn before you type otherwise people might miss your reply
[01:40] <Krypton> jp_sf: yes
[01:40] <Krypton> jp_sf: i did try
[01:40] <jp_sf> Krypton: instead of booting to the livecd did you try to install from the boot menu ?
[01:40] <Krypton> thats what i tried first
[01:40] <Krypton> jp_sf: no dice
[01:41] <jp_sf> Krypton: at the boot you tried the option to install (not run the CD) and then you choose partition and then when copied the files it stopped ?
[01:41] <Krypton> jp_sf: exactly at 50% it stopped (i asked for it to install on the whole disk)
[01:42] <g4lt-lappy> BG_: yes, but not easily.  IDE systems have room for four partitions by definition.  you can sac one of those to make extended partitions and go up to 8, but it's nontrivial
[01:42] <jp_sf> Krypton do you have a message something ? did you tried to install in a different graphic mode ? vesa or whatever ?
[01:42] <dou213> hey guys, how can i change the history file size?
[01:43] <niku> g4lt-lappy, I'd disagree, with a graphical tool like gpartd, it's pretty trivial
[01:43] <jpedroza> just a 411, I got DVD playback working. Looks like I needed to remove Totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine. Playback works flawlessly.
[01:44] <dou213> i did a export HISTSIZE=3000 && export HISTFILESIZE=3000 ... with echo $.. i see it is set to 3000, just that when i login again and echo $.., it appears again on default 500
[01:44] <Krypton1> jt: I got cut off
[01:44] <Krypton1> jt_sf: what did you say before?
[01:45] <|newbie|> i have installed jaunty + kde 4.2, when i try to enter in KDE stop on background
[01:45] <|newbie|> i have nvidia 180
[01:45] <Krypton1> jp_sf: you still there?
[01:45] <jp_sf> Krypton: yes ?
[01:45] <fearful> |newbie| jaunty is a devel release, its not even in beta testing stages
[01:46] <jp_sf> Krypton do you have a message something ? did you tried to install in a different graphic mode ? vesa or whatever ?
[01:46] <rww> !jaunty | |newbie|
[01:46] <Krypton1> jp_sf: yes i tried in safe graphiccs mode and oem, and no dice
[01:46] <GeffIsLegend> hey anyone mind helping with my micraphone on skype? it doesnt seem to work no matter what i do
[01:47] <fearful> GeffIsLegend: I can help
[01:47] <Krypton1> jp_sf: u tihnk the CD is the problem?
[01:47] <jp_sf> Krypton1: looks like a CD problem, you know if for instance you live in Houston they have a very good LUG that will meet this Weekend they can help you
[01:47] <fearful> GeffIsLegend: Just give me one sec
[01:47] <|newbie|> ubottu: thanks
[01:47] <GeffIsLegend> kk
[01:47] <jp_sf> Krypton: try another CD if you can
[01:47] <Krypton1> jp_sf: what is LUG?
[01:47] <rww> Krypton1: Linux User Group
[01:48] <jp_sf> Krypton1: Linux User Group
[01:48] <Krypton1> jp_sf: this will be my last and if it don't work then... I will go back to Windoze and I really dont want to
[01:48] <fearful> GeffIsLegend: Change both Sound In and Sound Out on the sound devices option to: HDA Intel (hw:intel,0)
[01:48] <Krypton1> so the ISO said it will be done in an hour and a half
[01:48] <fearful> GeffIsLegend: Then do a test call
[01:48] <magikid> For some reason, when I press the 'up' key in a terminal window, ubuntu takes a screenshot.  Any help would be appreciated.
[01:48] <GeffIsLegend> ok ill try that
[01:48] <jp_sf> Krypton1: it looks like probably a bad CDroom, it happens, if your LiveCD can boot you could burn an iso from there
[01:49] <g4lt-lappy> negativegluebear: yes, the reason is s-video is SDTV, thus 480i
[01:49] <Krypton1> jp_sf: if tis not a bd cd-rom what can i do?
[01:49] <GeffIsLegend> i dont have those as a option fearfull
[01:49] <GeffIsLegend> i have the nvidia ones
[01:49] <fearful> GeffIsLegend: Try the first one then
[01:49] <Dante_J> Greetings room
[01:49] <Krypton1> jp_sf: also how do I burn the iso once its done
[01:49]  * Dante_J waves
[01:50] <GeffIsLegend> and my webcam is my mic atm connected through usb, does that complicate things?
[01:50] <jp_sf> Krypton1: you have tools to burn CD if you have a CDrom burner
[01:50] <fearful> GeffIsLegend: We will try different options, one of the ones there has to work for you.
[01:50] <cphillips> whats the best way to convert a fla to a video file like avi?
[01:50] <Krypton1> jp_sf: yes but what software from the livecd
[01:51] <jp_sf> Krypton1: the livecd can maybe but when it must copy all the packages it might run into some scratch on the CD
[01:51] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay
[01:51] <jp_sf> Krypton1: cdrecord
[01:51] <GeffIsLegend> i just tried all the settings there was available , but none seemed to work
[01:52] <fearful> GeffIsLegend: Ok I'm going to need some information about your sound/webcam/mic
[01:52] <Krypton1> jp_sf: whre is cdrecord
[01:52] <Guest28692> hi
[01:52] <GeffIsLegend> i have the Phillips SPC 1000NC Webcam
[01:53] <Krypton1> jp_sf: also when i goto partition editer, it wont let me delete two partitons called devsda2 and devsda5, the delete button wont hilight
[01:53] <bobbyyg> QUESTION - cannot edit properties of old MP3's.  File Browser shows owner as root
[01:55] <fearful> GeffIsLegend: And the options that skype has?
[01:55] <ripdisk> i'm in a pickle here
[01:55] <ripdisk> i want to put ubuntu on my desktop
[01:55] <Dante_J> Hey Room I have a question: I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.2. I've not seen any patches in the last week or so and I'm expecting at very least the firefox 3.0.6 patch which I have under Fedora 10. There seems to be others missing too. I'm using generic repositories for Au. What's the story?
[01:55] <ripdisk> but for some reason, ubuntu and other distros
[01:56] <ripdisk> they won't install to the HDD
[01:56] <ripdisk> i tried to partition it through the partition manager in the setup
[01:56] <ripdisk> and it juse freezes
[01:56] <Delvien> bobbyyg change the permissions to your current user
[01:56] <bobbyyg> Delvien, How?
[01:57] <ripdisk> i tried to partition it through the partition manager in the setup and it freezes
[01:57] <Dante_J> bobbyyg: su username
[01:57] <ripdisk> ..
[01:57] <ripdisk> oops
[01:57] <Stepan1> Where does recoverjpeg store recovered images
[01:57] <ripdisk> i want to put ubuntu on my desktop
[01:57] <ripdisk> but for some reason, ubuntu and other distros
[01:57] <ripdisk> they won't install to the HDD
[01:57] <ripdisk> i tried to partition it through the partition manager in the setup and it freezes
[01:57] <ripdisk> and it juse freezes
[01:58] <GeffIsLegend> there is "default, hda Nvidia (hw:nvidia,0), hda nvidia(plughw:nvidia,0),  hda Nvidia (hw:nvidia,4), hda nvidia(plughw:nvidia,4), Phillips SPC 1000NC Webcam (hw:webcam,0), Phillips SPC 1000NC Webcam (plughw:webcam,0), hdmi, and headset
[01:58] <marieddu> sorry
[01:58] <bobbyyg> delvien, I'm new to this, is that a command line instruction, can I do it from the desktop, I'm the only user
[01:58] <klata> maybe the HDD is broken
[01:58] <ripdisk> no, windows will install just fine
[01:58] <Delvien> bobbyyg: start nautilus with gksu, right click, and change the owner of the files.
[01:58] <klata> oh i c
[01:58] <ripdisk> it's just linux distros
[01:59] <Ademan> anyone know if I can get python 2.6 from backports or something in intrepid?
[01:59] <Coded_> I'm stuck, I installed 8.10 on a box with just onboard ethernet connected to another box with an atheros wifi adapter(running 8.10 as well), I got rid of the box and kept the card thinking it should be a snap, I plugin the wifi card and it gets detected ('iwlist ath0 scan' gives me my access point) but when I try to connect to the ap using wep "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid NetName key 12345... channel 4 && sudo dhclient ath0" I can't g
[01:59] <Dante_J> Sorry Delvien, I misspoke
[01:59] <Delvien> Dante_J: ?
[01:59] <Stepan1> Where does recoverjpeg store recovered images?
[01:59] <Stepan1> ---
[02:00] <Dante_J> I suggested using su, as I thought bobbyyg wanted to change user permissions. my mistake
[02:00] <ripdisk> nobody knows why it won't install
[02:00] <K`zan> How can I get ahold of the 2.6.27.11 kernel that comes with 8.10 in 8.04 - my new MB resources are not in the 8.04 kernel.  I do NOT want to go to KDE4 nor gnome.  TMIA!
[02:00] <ripdisk> '?
[02:01] <Dante_J> ripdisk: are you a bot? if not more detail would help
[02:01] <K`zan> I did get the latest kernel from kernel.org and built it, but evidentally the ubuntu patches are not in it :-(.
[02:01] <bobbyyg> It appears that my version of Ubuntu ,which I loaded two two weeks ago, doesnt have nautilius
[02:01] <marieddu> hello people
[02:01] <pike__> K`zan: might still be on packages.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <Dante_J> hi marieddu
[02:01] <jrib> !kernel > K`zan
[02:01] <jrib> bobbyyg: are you using GNOME?
[02:01] <K`zan> pike__:  Thanks, checking.
[02:02] <enjoyfrancis> y0
[02:02] <pike__> bobbyyg: thunar ftw
[02:02] <bobbyyg> jrib, dont know,
[02:02] <jrib> bobbyyg: open a terminal and type "nautilus"
[02:02] <usser> pcmanfm ftw
[02:03] <zerothis> sorry about using an online client, main computers down. if i installed ubuntu using wubi can I safely use a live CD to poke arround on the drive to try and rescue windows xp? specifically, altering the boot.ini file?
[02:04] <ari_stress> morning all :)
[02:04] <lucax> how can i disable gnome keyring??
[02:04] <Dante_J> hi ari_stress
[02:04] <ripdisk> ubuntu won't install tomy HDD
[02:04] <ripdisk> to my*
[02:04] <Dante_J> Room, Where have all the patches gone? why are they delayed for Ubuntu 8.04? Still no Firefox patch?
[02:05] <BG_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409129&highlight=saving+home+directory
[02:05] <nickrud> zerothis, you can certainly use the live cd to edit boot.ini, safely is how well you edit it
[02:05] <ripdisk> ubuntu won't install to my HDD... please help
[02:05] <niku> Dante_J, ? it's a Long term support release
[02:05] <Dante_J> indeed
[02:05] <niku> !install | ripdisk
[02:05] <bobbyyg> jrib, looks like that got me back into a file browser,  give me a minute to look around
[02:05] <mandrig> ripdisk: how did you try installing?
[02:05] <nickrud> Dante_J, last I loooked the firefox was 'going through the security build process'
[02:05] <Dante_J> and that patch for Firefox is a necessary security patch
[02:06] <ripdisk> from the CD
[02:06] <ripdisk> i tried both live and from the installation
[02:06] <K`zan> jrib: Thanks, I think that might work, giving it a go now.  Much appreciated Sir!
[02:06] <mandrig> ripdisk: did you get an error, what happened? Youre going to have to be a lot more specific.
[02:07] <Dante_J> The Firefox patch Is almost 2 weeks behind fedora? what gives? It's the same source.
[02:07] <zerothis> nickrud ok, so it won't automatically destroy my dual boot setup. i'll make a backup and be careful, thanks
[02:07]  * zerothis afk
[02:07] <ripdisk> mandrig: it just freezes up
[02:07] <ripdisk> it stops installing when i try to resize my partition
[02:08] <ripdisk> and if i don't resize..
[02:08] <ripdisk> it stops at installation
[02:08] <jrib> Dante_J: why do you expect that patch to hit the repositories?
[02:08] <Dante_J> ripdisk: what are the filesystem types mentioned in the partitioning part?
[02:08] <bobbyyg> jrib, I still get to the properties/permissions page that says owner root
[02:08] <ripdisk> just an ntfs with xp on it
[02:08] <mandrig> ripdisk: resizing partitions takes a long time, as it moves data from part of the hard drive to another part. You've got to allow it time to do it.
[02:08] <ripdisk> i know this
[02:08] <jrib> bobbyyg: start from the beginning as I have no idea what your issue is
[02:08] <ripdisk> i've done it before
[02:08] <Dante_J> because it's a necessary security patch.
[02:08] <Dante_J> http://secunia.com/advisories/33799/
[02:08] <ripdisk> but it doesn't move
[02:08] <ripdisk> it stops completely
[02:09] <ripdisk> i let it sit over night
[02:09] <ripdisk> nothing
[02:09] <FloodBot2> ripdisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:09] <nefrin> I'm having an issue trying to install Ubuntu. I am trying to manually set the partitions to the follow: /boot 256MB, / 20GB, swap 2GB, /home 100GB, (if I use this setup the other 300GB's are labled as "unusable" during the install partition
[02:09] <jrib> Dante_J: bugs.ubuntu.com then
[02:09] <bobbyyg> Jrib, I have old MP3s that I can't edit the album name, artist etc
[02:09] <xoox> What is the "overflow" filesystem in the output of "df"?
[02:09] <jrib> bobbyyg: what is their location?
[02:10] <Dante_J> thanks jrib, I'll check. It just seems odd as there are other patches missing. ntpd, sudo & others
[02:10] <bernz> nefrin, it might be useful to have a good understanding of general PC disk partitioning; i can explain this via PM if you are interested
[02:10] <nefrin> bernz ---- yes, I would appreciate that
[02:10] <Destinova> Hello everybody.
[02:10] <bobbyyg> jrib, on the second IDE drive here on this machine  that came from my old XP machine
[02:10] <ripdisk> mandrig: any suggestions?
[02:10] <jrib> bobbyyg: what filesystem? where is it mounted?
[02:11] <mandrig> ripdisk: I've got nothing... Sorry man
[02:11] <jrib> Dante_J: 3.06 hit jaunty on the 5th
[02:11] <dusty_> Hey guys whats a good equaliser for gnome ? so i can tweak the bass of my sub etc ?
[02:11] <bobbyyg> jrib, NTFS - I don't know anything about "mounting".....Rapsody will let me edit some files but not others
[02:11] <Dante_J> jrib: LTS means long term support ...
[02:11] <jrib> Dante_J: how is that relevant?
[02:11] <Dante_J> that is to say, Security patches
[02:12] <jrib> Dante_J: yeah, I understand
[02:12] <Dante_J> Timely Security patches
[02:12] <shadow451> hello
[02:12] <GeffIsLegend> fearful?
[02:12] <Krypton> hi guys, im back and i might have figured out the problem
[02:12] <Dante_J> and I'm curious as to why all of them seem delayed?
[02:12] <shadow451> is anyone there
[02:13] <shadow451> hello
[02:13] <shadow451> I am new here, and am lost
[02:13] <jrib> Dante_J: find the relevant bug.  You can try asking #ubuntu-motu about security update policies as well I suppose
[02:13] <Krypton> umm can some1 tell me if i am doing the right hing? I check my iso and th ehashes are =, but when i checked the cd for defects it said one error infile, should i burna new cd and ubuntu will install fine?
[02:13] <Krypton> because im getting stuck at 50%
[02:13] <Dante_J> jrib: You've been very helpful. Many thanks :)
[02:14] <shadow451> ok...........this is a support for ubuntu
[02:14] <Zeeded> yes
[02:14] <mandrig> Krypton: Yes, as there could have been an error while burning the iso to disk.
[02:14] <bobbyyg> shadow451, I'm new here too, but we can't be lost cuz were here
[02:14] <shadow451> sorry..thought it just a chat
[02:14] <jrib> bobbyyg: pastebin the output of « mount »
[02:14]  * Dante_J waves farewell
[02:14] <Dante_J> cheers room
[02:14] <rww> Krypton: If your defect check says there are errors, then yes, you need to reburn it
[02:14] <shadow451> been lost most of my life...in very small rooms
[02:15] <Zeeded> shadow451, well it is not just for support but that is the base of it
[02:15] <rww> !ot
[02:15] <Zeeded> JK
[02:15] <Zeeded> shadow451, Im a liar
[02:15] <dusty_> Hey guys whats a good equaliser for gnome ? so i can tweak the bass of my sub etc ?
[02:16] <shadow451> can i use photo shop here?
[02:16] <bobbyyg> jrib, could you repeat that in english, I'm not any good at command line stuff
[02:16] <bpcomp> ok so I messed up an install of some brother printer drivers somehow and now any time I try to do anything with package manager or apt-get I get an error that "The package hl5070nlpr needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[02:16] <jrib> bobbyyg: open a terminal and run the command « mount ».  Then pastebin the output at paste.ubuntu.com
[02:16] <pike__> any full featured gtk2 music players without alot of gnome dependancies?
[02:17] <usser> pike_, audacious
[02:17] <pike__> usser: more full featured :)
[02:17] <usser> oh
[02:17] <jadew> hi guys, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 and my pc keeps booting in windows, no sign of grub anywhere
[02:18] <bobbyyg> jrib, does "pastebin" mean cut and paste at that website?
[02:18] <hendrixski> help.  I installed cairo-dock, and for some reason I misconfigured it... then ran apt-get --purge remove  and re-installed it... but the config is still all messed up
[02:18] <jrib> bobbyyg: yes
[02:18] <dusty_> Hey guys whats a good equaliser for gnome ? so i can tweak the bass of my sub etc ?
[02:18] <bobbyyg> jrib, so what will that accomplish
[02:18] <usser> hendrixski, config file is stored in your home directory so you have to remove .cairo-dock or some similar folder/file in your $HOME
[02:18] <jadew> how can I start ubuntu from the hdd using the cd?
[02:18] <jrib> bobbyyg: it will let me see it so I can help you
[02:18] <jadew> I can't find any clear instructions
[02:18] <GeffIsLegend> anyone else know a lot about skype on ubuntu and know why my mic wont seem to work on it for some reason?
[02:19] <hendrixski> usser: oh... that makes sense, lemme try that and re-install
[02:19] <aaditya> jadew: are you trying to install Ubuntu from CD to HDD?
[02:19] <jadew> aaditya, I already isntalled it from the CD
[02:19] <jadew> it just won't boot up
[02:19] <aaditya> jadew: dual boot?
[02:19] <jadew> the old system boots up instead (xp)
[02:19] <jadew> yeah
[02:19] <TeamColtra[TFD]> I have a USB headset/micset and I was wondering how to find the name my audio is just "system:playback_1" but the capture: doesn't work
[02:19]  * hendrixski wonders why the ~/.cairo-dock folder doesn't get purged...
[02:19] <ImSad> Hey, I need help on how to burn an ISO to a USB flash drive.
[02:20] <bpcomp> imsad look up unetbootin
[02:20] <TeamColtra[TFD]> I guess my question is how do I map my USB Media Device
[02:20] <jrib> hendrixski: why would it?
[02:20] <bobbyyg> jrib, looks like this may take a while and I have an Antique Tractor Club Meeting is 1.5 hours,  Thanks, I'll try this again tomorrow
[02:20] <jrib> bobbyyg: ok
[02:20] <usser> hendrixski, only system wide config files get purged whatever users do within their own directory is their own business
[02:20] <usser> ImSad, get unetbootin
[02:20] <hendrixski> I guess that makes sense...
[02:21] <Gcdm> i need some help
[02:21] <hendrixski> it's just that sudo rm -r ~/.whatever  doesn't feel like the natural way to reset the configuration of something
[02:21] <GeffIsLegend> anyone else know a lot about skype on ubuntu and know why my mic wont seem to work on it for some reason? its a usb mic/webcam i use as a mic mainly though
[02:21] <jadew> any idea on my problem?
[02:22] <cfedde> how does 8.10 boot? and what happened to inittab?
[02:22] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: Did you set it to be the USB device in the prefrences of Skype?
[02:22] <hendrixski> GeffIsLegend: Skype is a bitch ... you have to go to the sound settings in Skype and try all the different options for sound input and output
[02:22] <Guest13762> how do i install my graphics card???
[02:22] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Its not really that hard as hhendrixski implys
[02:23] <GeffIsLegend> it used to work before i got ubuntu though :-/
[02:23] <Guest13762> hello
[02:23] <bpcomp> can anyone help me with my bjorked install
[02:23] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend:  Click Ctrl+O to get to options
[02:23] <GeffIsLegend> and in skype it specifically shows up as the name of my webcam/mic which is Phillips
[02:23] <TeamColtra[TFD]> now go to Sound Devices
[02:23] <GeffIsLegend> Phillips SPC 1000NC is what shows up, which is my webcam, then i set it to that, then test call but it says there is a error
[02:24] <TeamColtra[TFD]> and make your sound in and sound out something probably like C-Media USB Headphone Set
[02:24] <bpcomp> ok so I messed up an install of some brother printer drivers somehow and now any time I try to do anything with package manager or apt-get I get an error that "The package hl5070nlpr needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[02:25] <Guest13762> ok i have an nviddia gefore 9500 gt graphics card and i have no idea how to install it?
[02:26] <Guest13762> hello?
[02:26] <aaditya> Guest13762: installing hardware? or driver?
[02:26] <Guest13762> both
[02:26] <TeamColtra[TFD]> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957660
[02:26] <TeamColtra[TFD]> @ Guest13762 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957660
[02:27] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Guest13762: That was the first result in my google search :D
[02:28] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: So you don't have any other options for your audio device in Skype?
[02:28] <Guest13762> ok guys lol im brand new to ubuntu.
[02:28] <Guest13762> i need step by step directions
[02:28] <TeamColtra[TFD]> No problem Guest13762, we all were new at some point... I just made the big switch last month
[02:29] <Guest13762> kool.
[02:29] <GeffIsLegend> yeah i have a whole bunch more options and none seem to work at all
[02:29] <Guest13762> could you talk me through this install?
[02:29] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Guest13762:  This seems to be very step by step http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123573
[02:29] <Guest13762> ok
[02:29] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: Did any match what I told you?
[02:29] <Guest13762> ty i will do my best nd get back to you
[02:29] <TeamColtra[TFD]> C-Media USB Headphone Set?
[02:30] <TeamColtra[TFD]> I don't know if that is a local name to me... or not
[02:30] <GeffIsLegend> no, none showed up as specifically USV
[02:30] <bpcomp> could someone please tell me how to point apt-get to a local package?
[02:30] <GeffIsLegend> USB*
[02:30] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Does it come up in your media manager?
[02:30] <TeamColtra[TFD]> bpcomp, if you have a deb file... just double click it
[02:30] <VioletsPie_> is it possible to run a VPN on linux
[02:31] <GeffIsLegend> the system>sounds?
[02:31] <TeamColtra[TFD]> yes
[02:31] <GeffIsLegend> yeah it works in there
[02:31] <bpcomp> that goes through gdebi
[02:31] <GeffIsLegend> and in the sound recorder
[02:31] <TeamColtra[TFD]> bpcomp is there any reason to not use gdebi?
[02:31] <niku> bpcomp, dpkg -i <Pathtopackage>
[02:31] <Destinova> Has anyone here successfully installed a multi-boot with any Vista/Ubuntu on a RAID 1 array?
[02:31] <bpcomp> because my package is broken
[02:32] <TeamColtra[TFD]> I see
[02:32] <bpcomp> somehow
[02:32] <eater9> My fresh Intrepid install seems to think my laptop screen is 1024x768, but really it's 1200x900 -- where can I put in the correct info so popups and panels are placed correctly?
[02:32] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Geff, so I can seperate you from the others can you type out TeamColtra?
[02:32] <TeamColtra[TFD]> when you reply :D
[02:32] <Scunizi> eater9: what kind of video card is it?
[02:32] <bpcomp> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/116273/
[02:33] <GeffIsLegend>  TeamColtra yeah sorry
[02:33] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: if you type TeamC and click "tab" it will auto complete for you :D
[02:33] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]: o i c
[02:33] <eater9> Scunizi: Intel GMA 4500MHD
[02:33] <mandrig> eater9: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[02:33] <eater9> mandrig: That contains the correct 1200x900
[02:33] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: lol do you think I am motivated to type out your FULL name everytime? HA! I justl ove the Tab command
[02:34] <Scunizi> eater9: Intel is well supported check synaptic and see if the right driver is loaded.
[02:34] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]:  lmao i nver kneew that xD i feel dummbb
[02:34] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: So you don't see your USB device in the sound manager either?
[02:34] <Sarthor> ip route add 192.168.1.0 dev eth1 src 192.168.1.2 table T1, its giving the error "argument "T1" is wrong "table" value is invalid" Getting help from this url, http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[02:34] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: don't worry about it ... I bet 80% of the people here don't know about it :D
[02:35] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]: well it shows up as the model name of the actual webcam, which is Phillips SPC 1000NC to be exact, show it be showing up as USB device or something?
[02:35] <Guest13762> lol im back
[02:35] <eater9> Scunizi: yes, it's running xserver-xorg-video-intel
[02:36] <Guest13762> all i need o know is how to install the drivers. i downloaded them and was told to type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run somewhere
[02:36] <eater9> Scunizi: the display is fine; but Gnome places the panels and popups a couple inches from the bottom of the screen, instead of right on the bottom where they belong
[02:36] <Scunizi> eater9: if you haven't yet you might open a terminal and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:36] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: is the webcam combined with the audio device?
[02:36] <Guest13762> where do i type it?
[02:36] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Guest13762: terminal
[02:36] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]: not quite sure i understand that
[02:36] <eater9> Scunizi: yes, everything's up to date
[02:36] <mandrig> Guest13762: type <alt> + <F2> then type xterm
[02:36] <Guest13762> how do i get to terminal?
[02:36] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Guest13762: Applications -> Accessories -> terminal
[02:36] <usser> Guest13762, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[02:37] <WebcamWonder> Guest13762: Make sure to blacklist the other modules, else your X won't start
[02:37] <Scunizi> eater9: the driver you listed is good up to the i965 chipsets..
[02:38] <bpcomp> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/116273/
[02:38] <usser> eater9, try running auto-adjusting on your monitor
[02:38] <judgepg> hi folks, can anyone help me mount an external HDD?  Ubuntu can't seem to recognize the HDD, but windows can.  Any thoughts?
[02:38] <eater9> usser: it's a laptop
[02:38] <Guest13762> think i may have got it
[02:39] <usser> eater9, oh sorry then
[02:39] <cfedde> Ok.  where are the upstart config files kept?
[02:39] <bpcomp> judgepg is it a usb external hdd?
[02:39] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: what do you not understand
[02:39] <judgepg> bpcomp, yup
[02:39] <judgepg> bpcomp, 160GB 2.5"
[02:40] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]:  yeah my webcam and micraphone are one item
[02:40] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: Okay. I see the delimma
[02:40] <TeamColtra[TFD]> You are probably freaking the fuck out of ubuntu is what you are doing :D
[02:40] <ripdisk> mandrig: i got an error now
[02:40] <tritium> TeamColtra[TFD]: watch the langauge!
[02:40] <bpcomp> judgepg: does anything show up in /mnt or /media?
[02:40] <tritium> language, even
[02:40] <TeamColtra[TFD]> :( Sorry
[02:40] <judgepg> bpcomp, nothing
[02:40] <TeamColtra[TFD]> I am a bad person
[02:40] <judgepg> bpcomp, perhaps the drive needs to be formatted first
[02:41] <tritium> TeamColtra[TFD]: no you're not, just keep it family-friendly, please.
[02:41] <fearful> lol TeamColtra[TFD] you made my day today
[02:41] <ripdisk> while installing ubuntu i get this error: AN error occurred while writing the canges to the storage devices. THe resize operation has been aborted.
[02:41] <mandrig> ripdisk: I'm not sure what to tell you...
[02:41] <TeamColtra[TFD]> @ fearful I am glad I was able to assist you :D
[02:41] <bpcomp> judgepg: try dmsg in the command line to see if you can find out about it in there
[02:42] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]:  would u know how to fix this?
[02:42] <talntid> top - 18:41:35 up -24855 days, -3:-14,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[02:42] <talntid> anyone have any idea what would cause that?
[02:42] <Mortuis> where do I make changes to $PATH?
[02:42] <bpcomp> sorry dmesg
[02:42] <Mortuis> when I echo $PATH I get a bunch of folders, I'd like to add one but I can't find where it's defined
[02:42] <eydaimon> Mortuis: .bashrc would work.
[02:42] <vigo> ripdisk: Guided or Manual?
[02:42] <ripdisk> guided
[02:43] <eydaimon> Mortuis: you can always jsut do export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[02:43] <Mortuis> eydaimon: I don't see the current definition in .bashrc and there is no .bash_profile
[02:43] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: Switch to Mac (NOOO! JUST KIDDING) I honestly don't know... what error message is Skype giving you?
[02:43] <Scunizi> eater9: check out this thread  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011784
[02:43] <eydaimon> Mortuis: you don't need to see the current definition, you can use the export I showed you to add to it there
[02:43] <ripdisk> vigo: nguided
[02:43] <eydaimon> Mortuis: and you can try it on the commandline first
[02:43] <vigo> ripdisk: I am stumped then, Grub loader should use the free space only....hrmmm
[02:43] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]:  "Problem with audio playback"
[02:43] <Mortuis> eydaimon: would that change carry over when I reboot?
[02:43] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Are you trying to make it your sound out and ringing?
[02:43] <judgepg> bpcomp, it does seem to recognize the drive in dmesg what do you suggest?
[02:43] <TeamColtra[TFD]> @ GeffIsLegend ^
[02:44] <eper3z> how do i fix my arrow keys?
[02:44] <GeffIsLegend> no just sound out
[02:44] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]: no just sound out
[02:44] <eydaimon> Mortuis: if you save your .bashrc and it gets loaded, sure
[02:44] <cfedde> who else here thinks that the upstart doc is a bit incomplete?
[02:44] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: Is it a mic and a speaker?
[02:44] <judgepg> bpcomp, : [874106.213011] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TOSHIBA  MK1652GSX        9.03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS
[02:44] <judgepg> [874108.260755] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 312581808 512-byte hardware sectors (160042 MB)
[02:44] <eydaimon> Mortuis: you shuold have a ~/.bashrc already
[02:44] <eater9> Scunizi: I don't think it's a video driver problem, because XFCE and KDE work fine -- just Gnome is having trouble positioning its furniture
[02:45] <Mortuis> eydaimon: okay, so you're saying to echo $PATH and then add that to my ~/.bashrc with the changes?
[02:45] <vigo> ripdisk: use Guided, the machine is maybe trying to write to protected or other formatted volumes
[02:45] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]:  no just a webcam
[02:45] <ripdisk> vigo, i did
[02:45] <ripdisk> i used guided
[02:45] <ripdisk> that's what i said
[02:45] <Naisel> l
[02:45] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend:  That has a speaker in it yes?
[02:45] <TeamColtra[TFD]> sorry mic
[02:45] <Scunizi> eater9: have you tried booting into the recover kernel and fix it there.. there's suppose to be an option to do that..
[02:45] <vigo> ripdisk: Installing on a win partition?
[02:45] <eydaimon> Mortuis: no, you don't need to add it. all you need to put in there is `export PATH=$PATH:/new/path`.  The $PATH will just assign what's already sent, then you add to it, and store the new one.
[02:45] <_2> can someone explain me something about "swap space usage"  and why OOMK would be killing things before swap is filled ???
[02:46] <ripdisk> yes
[02:46] <eater9> Scunizi: do you know what i'd look for when i do that?
[02:46] <ripdisk> but it did this even before i had windows on it, vigo
[02:46] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]:  no sir, just a micraphone
[02:46] <judgepg> bpcomp, any thoughts?
[02:46] <Scunizi> eater9: I think it will just ask you what you want to do
[02:46] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: If there is no speaker on it... then don't set the sound out to it because it cant give sound out
[02:46] <Mortuis> eydaimon: Okay, thanks
[02:46] <vigo> ripdisk: Is the win part clean and stable drive?
[02:46] <Scunizi> eater9: with a list.. a,b.c.d. etc
[02:46] <ripdisk> the windows part works.. yes
[02:46] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: Its why its freaking out... You are telling it to send audio out something that is audio in only
[02:47]  * _2 likes GeffIsLegend's spelling,   :)
[02:47] <dutch> can anyone help me get pulseaudio working?
[02:47] <bpcomp> judgepg: you know that your drive is "sdb" so look on google for manually mounting an external drive
[02:47] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Its like... nevermind I will query your annalogy
[02:47] <GeffIsLegend> TeamColtra[TFD]:  oo so change it to audioin?
[02:47] <GeffIsLegend> why'd i just get burnt :[
[02:47] <eydaimon> Mortuis: np
[02:47] <GeffIsLegend> *audio in
[02:47] <ripdisk> vigo, can I pm you? everyone typing at once is bad for my eyes
[02:47] <_2> http://pastebin.com/f6288e4c8   thoughts
[02:48] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: yes just sound in... not out
[02:48] <vigo> ripdisk: Look at the windows utilities thing, I forgot now, windows explorer>C drive or whatever> sure
[02:48] <judgepg> bpcomp, thank you, great info!
[02:48] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend:  Then pay pal me 50 bucks :D
[02:48] <fearful> hah
[02:48] <GeffIsLegend> sorry i can onlydo 15$ right now
[02:48] <TeamColtra[TFD]> GeffIsLegend: I take installments
[02:49] <TeamColtra[TFD]> err fine... :) My assistance is free because I love ubuntu
[02:49] <GeffIsLegend> omg i love you lol its workin finally
[02:50] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Whats your skype name?
[02:50] <GeffIsLegend> Geff121 :D
[02:50] <Scunizi> TeamColtra[TFD]: come on now.. really.. it's the concept and community that keeps you around.. it's the feel good thing.
[02:50] <fearful> Scunizi: I agree
[02:51] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Scunizi: yeah thats what I said
 err fine... :) My assistance is free because I love ubuntu
[02:51] <_2> Scunizi it's the errors and bugs that keep me around  :)))
[02:51] <HHK> .help
[02:51] <HHK> 1help
[02:51] <HHK> !help
[02:51] <Scunizi> _2: AH HA!!  you're a true hacker!
[02:51] <bpcomp> can anyone help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/116275/
[02:52] <derenrich> can i get ufw to have separate rules for eahc of my NICs?
[02:52] <HHK> help
[02:52] <fearful> !justask
[02:52] <dmphotography> I've got a question . . what's the closest look-alike to Mac OS X ?
[02:52] <fearful> dmphotography: Mac4Lin
[02:52] <_2> so anyone have any clue by four to hit me with "http://pastebin.com/f6288e4c8"  as to why OOMK is killing things rather than using swap space as needed ?
[02:53] <diginux> how do i disable ipv6 in jaunty?
[02:54] <fearful> _2: Damn I don't even understand that yet... lol hope I get there one day hah
[02:55] <sharef> where is the desktop folder defined for kde and gnome???
[02:55] <fearful> 00MK?
[02:55] <sharef> like, what folder contents are displayed
[02:55] <eipipuz> Hello everyone, can someone help me with a permission thing? I created an apache group, and added www-data to it. The file does have rw permissions, but it complains with a "Permission denied"
[02:55] <_2> fearful out of memory kill
[02:55] <sharef> because right now it shows my root
[02:55] <dmphotography> Thanks fearful, that looks identical.
[02:55] <Krypton> Thanks guys alot, i succesfully installed Ubuntu
[02:55] <WebcamWonder> _2: Is it really killing apps? It looks as if it lets swap go past 100%
[02:55] <_2> fearful it's a kernel system call
[02:55] <fearful> dmphotography: Your welcome
[02:55] <dmphotography> Is it difficult to install?
[02:55] <_2> WebcamWonder yes.
[02:56] <dmphotography> And does it change anything about Ubuntu?
[02:56] <Krypton> Do i need to install anything now in order to play open arena? I have ATI 3200 IGP and want to get some games kicked on this baby
[02:56] <fearful> _2: Wait but thats just monitoring your swap usage?
[02:56] <sharef> desktop folder variable defanition anyone???
[02:56] <_2> WebcamWonder kolorpaint in particular.   trying to edit some scanned images,   to open more than one at a time i need to access about 600m
[02:57] <WebcamWonder> _2: Well, it seems it was good in its decision regarding which app to kill, just b/c it is killing is the bad thing
[02:57] <_2> fearful the pastebin is only the output of a while loop that i was using to monitor ram and swap usage   yes.
[02:57] <bpcomp> sharef: I'm not sure what your asking. My desktop folder is /home/user/Desktop
[02:57] <fearful> _2: ah alright
[02:57] <_2> WebcamWonder correct.
[02:57] <bpcomp> anything I put on my desktop goes in that folder
[02:58] <psufan> Hello
[02:58] <_2> WebcamWonder as you can see in the pastebin "http://pastebin.com/f6288e4c8"  the swap space is not being used before OOMK jumps in.
[02:58] <Krypton> Do i need to install anything now in order to play open arena? I have ATI 3200 IGP and want to get some games kicked on this baby
[02:58] <zaapiel-mobile> y0
[02:58] <Krypton> like drivers?
[02:58] <zaapiel-mobile> can i use skype on ubuntu 8.10?
[02:59] <zaapiel-mobile> i dont see an option for it on the skype website
[02:59] <psufan> how is yall?
[02:59] <tritium> psufan: never heard of it
[02:59] <_2> WebcamWonder and i tried the default "-1" "32k" and "1" priorities     none help.
[02:59] <psufan> huh?
[02:59] <tritium> Never heard of "yall".  What is it?  A software package?
[02:59] <psufan> how are yall?
[02:59] <tritium> !info yall
[03:00] <zaapiel-mobile> !info skype
[03:00] <psufan> !info windows
[03:00] <WebcamWonder> _2: You can temporarily prevent oom by this: https://lists.sdsc.edu/pipermail/npaci-rocks-discussion/2006-June/019111.html
[03:00] <psufan> !info UBUNTU
[03:00] <_2> WebcamWonder looking
[03:00] <WebcamWonder> _2: Although, then it would panik if it can't allocate memory
[03:01] <_2> WebcamWonder heh  yeah.  kernel panic rather than app killed is kinda counter intuitive
[03:01] <_2> a
[03:02] <Krypton> Hi, guys, when I goto the hardware drivers and clcik activate for ati drivers, a bar comes up and nothing happens
[03:02] <sharef> how do i increase my swap space??
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> _2: Well, I would think that it would panic only once an app tries to get some memory and it is not avialable. But it seems as if OOM is kicked in way befoer that even happens
[03:02] <fearful> sharef: Log in the Live CD and disable swap then resize it to the size of your choice, and enable it again.
[03:04] <_2> WebcamWonder WebcamWonder yeah OOMK seems to be called in place of IO_MEM  or what ever is supposed to swap pages.
[03:04] <serr> hi
[03:04] <IntuitiveNipple> sharef: Use swapon/swapoff to disable/enable, then use mkswap to create it. If it is in a partition (not a file) you need to think about the added complication of resizing, and the effect on other partitions
[03:05] <serr> who wud share my sorrow ?????????????
[03:05] <_2> WebcamWonder i'm kinda wondering if it's a bug in the latest dapper kernel update...  i think i'll boot an older kernel and test
[03:05] <WebcamWonder> _2: You are still on dapper?
[03:05] <serr> kernel droped
[03:05] <WebcamWonder> _2: Wake up sheeple :P
[03:05] <serr> kernel droped
[03:05] <serr> kernel droped
[03:05] <Krypton> when I goto the hardware drivers and clcik activate for ati drivers, a bar comes up and nothing happens, how do i install the latest ati drivers?
[03:06] <_2> WebcamWonder dapper is LTS for a reason.
[03:06] <serr> kernel droped
[03:06] <WebcamWonder> _2: :), I was kidding :)
[03:06] <eipipuz> someone that can help me with a permission denied?
[03:06] <woody86> does anyone know why when conky starts automatically on start-up, it disappears after a second or two but keeps running behind the desktop?
[03:06] <_2> eipipuz on what ?
[03:07] <pike__> woody86: in fluxbox?
[03:07] <jillian> i tried to install ubuntu 8.10 from 8.04 today and got a message saying unable to install
[03:07] <md5> Hello, I have a problem with vmware. I have Ubuntu 8.10 and Windows XP on my computer. From XP I am trying to connect to Ubuntu with vmware. Everything is ok, the only problem the keyboard doesn't work. What should I do? I believe that I need to change something in configuration file.
[03:07] <woody86> pike_, in ubuntu
[03:08] <dmphotography> @ md5, Have you used VMWare before?
[03:08] <md5> dmphotography, long time ago
[03:08] <Krypton> when I goto the hardware drivers and clcik activate for ati drivers, a bar comes up and nothing happens, how do i install the latest ati drivers?
[03:09] <dmphotography> You shouldn't have any trouble.  Once you click inside the Linux OS, your keyboard should work fine.
[03:09] <derenrich> can i get ufw to have separate rules for eahc of my NICs?
[03:09] <jillian> i'm an ubuntu virgin and need help upgrading my ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10
[03:09] <Phillomath> woody86:  What have you set the own_window preference to in .conkyrc?
[03:09] <jillian> i am totally lost
[03:09] <dmphotography> Did you install and leave everything default?
[03:09] <derenrich> jillian: what's the problem?
[03:09] <md5> dmphotography, but it doesn't. Mouse works fine, but keyboard doesn't work.
[03:09] <fearful> jillian: What's the problem?
[03:09] <WebcamWonder> !upgrade | jillian
[03:10] <jillian> i tried installing but an error message came up saying that it couldn't install
[03:10] <dmphotography> md5: Hmm, if you installed it correctly and didn't change the default option for the keyboard, then it should work.
[03:10] <jillian> it took 2 hours to download and then i got stuck
[03:10] <md5> dmphotography, Few little changes, but it doesn't have anything to do with keyboard
[03:10] <jillian> should i restart my comp and see if there are any changes...and what changes should i be looking for
[03:10] <jillian> i got a sabre error message
[03:10] <dmphotography> That's strange.  I've never had an issue with it.
[03:11] <IdleOne> !mp3
[03:11] <md5> dmphotography, maybe because you run ubuntu from iso and I run from my hard disk
[03:11] <jillian> it's inside windows
[03:11] <bpcomp> so anyone want to take a crack at helping me get my package installer working again? http://paste.ubuntu.com/116275/
[03:11] <dmphotography> Nah, I run all my VM's from the hard disk.
[03:11] <woody86> Phillomath, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/116278/
[03:11] <dmphotography> I use the ISO to install it and then I don't use it anymore.
[03:12] <md5> dmphotography, can't find an answer on the internet, last hope is here :)
[03:12] <jillian> ISO??
[03:12] <jillian> I am sooo not technical...just started using ubuntu from window...
[03:12] <dmphotography> Have you tried just re-installing it?
[03:12] <jillian> well..it doesn't come up any more in update manager
[03:12] <woody86> Phillomath, but if I start Conky manually it works fine
[03:12] <jillian> is there somewhere else i can try to install it from
[03:13] <md5> dmphotography, not the OS, but i tried to make new connection
[03:13] <dmphotography> md5: Does it work on any other distros of Linux/any other installed VM OS's?
[03:13] <fearful> jillian: Press ALT + F2 and type upgrade-devel
[03:13] <md5> dmphotography, yes
[03:13] <Phillomath> Hmm
[03:13] <jillian> ok...i'll try
[03:13] <dmphotography> md5: which?
[03:13] <md5> dmphotography, backtrack
[03:14] <dmphotography> Ahh.  Haha.
[03:14] <Phillomath> woody86: Could be something to do with the desktop being drawn after conky starts
[03:14] <md5> dmphotography, ;]
[03:14] <diginux> how do i disable ipv6 in jaunty?
[03:14] <dmphotography> I have a nice tutorial on how to install that to hard disk if you haven't already done so.
[03:14] <woody86> Phillomath, hmmm... any way to change that?
[03:14] <jillian> it says location file cannot be found
[03:14] <Phillomath> woody86: Never had that problem myself but I've heard it happens
[03:14] <woody86> Phillomath, ok thanks, I'll try some more Google :)
[03:14] <Phillomath> woody86: In your sessions entry where you have conky set to autostart...
[03:15] <md5> dmphotography, I have installed it with cd, now I am trying to connect from xp to ubuntu, everything is ok just keyboard doesnt work
[03:15] <_2> diginux  maybe edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[03:15] <bpcomp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/116279/
[03:15] <woody86> Phillomath, yeah?
[03:15] <Phillomath> Trwoody86: Try putting in sleep 5 before the conky command
[03:15] <diginux> _2: don't think that works in jaunty anymore since ipv6 is built into the kernel i heard
[03:15] <k0pp> hello, i'm looking for a way to block 1 single IP from making ANY connections to my machine, whether that be via http, ssh, or connecting to an IRCd running on the machine. how can i go about this?
[03:15] <diginux> _2: and I tried it and it didn't work :(
[03:15] <WebcamWonder> diginux: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty
[03:15] <Phillomath> woody86: That will delay conky starting for 5 seconds
[03:15] <diginux> WebcamWonder: thanks!
[03:16] <jillian> i tried ALT + F2 and nothing
[03:16] <woody86> Phillomath, ok, I'll give it a shot, thx
[03:16] <_2> diginux oh jaunty.    sorry.   idk.
[03:16] <Phillomath> woody86: also try changing own_window type to normal
[03:16] <_2> diginux i was thinking intrepid.   please disreguard.
[03:16] <IntuitiveNipple> diginux: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
[03:16] <_2> diginux also   jaunty questions are for   #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <woody86> Phillomath, ok I'll try, thx again
[03:16] <Phillomath> woody86: np
[03:17] <TheInternal> hi everyone. linux noob here.
[03:17] <fearful> hello
[03:17] <jillian> dmphotography...what do you think
[03:17] <_2> TheInternal welcome to the club
[03:17] <jillian> or fearful
[03:17] <TheInternal> I've learned a ton in about a week from playing with Debian and Ubuntu. Quite a different "feel" than windows
[03:18] <fearful> jillian: Go to System -> Administration -> System Sources
[03:18] <jillian> ok..i'm there..now what
[03:18] <fearful> jillian: Click the third column 'release upgrade' and select 'normal release'
[03:19] <TheInternal> I've already looked over the "intermediate to advanced" Ubuntu router setup, but it was written with assumptions that a mere linux noobie wouldn't grasp :(
[03:19] <jillian> done
[03:19] <jillian> it was there already
[03:19] <_2> jillian also when  a command fails from "alt+ft" run dialog   use a terminal to debug it
[03:19] <fearful> jillian: Click close
[03:19] <fearful> jillian: On the terminal type sudo apt-get update
[03:20] <TheInternal> anyone know a good place to go for a "make ubuntu into a router" might be found (or someone that could answer a ton of questions patiently?)
[03:20] <jillian> ok..done
[03:20] <Sp0tUbuntu> Hmm! What is there insted of mIRC in linux? Not Konversation, thats KDE i guess? What else? Must have about same features as Konversation! Thanks!
[03:20] <xiaopi> Xchat~
[03:20] <jillian> how do i debug
[03:20] <fearful> jillian: Nothing happened?
[03:20] <Sp0tUbuntu> Can Xchat perform commands?
[03:20] <Sp0tUbuntu> xiaopi: ?
[03:20] <xiaopi> yes it can
[03:20] <jillian> yes...a couple of things updated
[03:20] <Sp0tUbuntu> Thanks! :-) And thats Gnome?
[03:21] <xiaopi> and can use any python/perl script you find write~
[03:21] <jillian> intrepid stuff
[03:21] <xiaopi> "or write"
[03:21] <linux_guy> my wireless driver (ndiswrapper) doesn't always work at startup, where do I start to diagnose?
[03:21] <fearful> jillian: Does it show anything that needs to be updated in the panel?
[03:21] <Sp0tUbuntu> xiaopi: And its Gnome, rigth?
[03:21] <linux_guy> 2 restarts, and a shutdown / power up fixes it
[03:21] <itchydog> join #ubuntu-bugs
[03:21] <linux_guy> =(
[03:21] <xiaopi> yes gtk :)
[03:21] <jillian> oh..sorry..i hadn't gotten to that yet
[03:22] <fearful> jillian: :p
[03:22] <Sp0tUbuntu> xiaopi: Cool! Thanks alot m8! :-) I go find it tomorrow when i have get some sleep! .-)
[03:22] <Sp0tUbuntu> :-)*
[03:22] <_2> Sp0tUbuntu there is an  xchat-gnome  that's not the good one.  venella  xchat is the one you want.
[03:22] <jillian> nope..nothing came up..and like i said..i'm an ubuntu virgin...be patient with me..lol
[03:22] <Sp0tUbuntu> _2: Ok, thanks for the warning! :-)
[03:22] <jillian> do you think that maybe it did install and i don't know
[03:22] <fearful> jillian: I'm sorry for rushing.
[03:23] <TheInternal> I'm using ubuntu's default pigeon for IRC
[03:23] <jillian> lol..that's ok
[03:23] <TheInternal> 8.10 iso
[03:23] <fearful> jillian: Open a terminal and type lsb_release -a
[03:23] <Pawka> HI guys can you recommend a quicktime alternative and a video editor ?
[03:23] <jillian> do i put sudo apt-get in front of that
[03:23] <jillian> ?
[03:23] <Sp0tUbuntu> Is there a place in "ubuntu" when running a laptop, where i can set "powersafe" and then force CPU to run slower?
[03:23] <Sp0tUbuntu> For minimum heat you know
[03:23] <Sp0tUbuntu> Cant find it
[03:24] <Sp0tUbuntu> Its burning! :-D
[03:24] <WebcamWonder> Sp0tUbuntu: Take a look at CPU governers, they can control the scaling of CPUs
[03:24] <fearful> jillian: Nope
[03:24] <TheInternal> I'm pretty handy with windows, and am darn good at hardware (I helped build and maintain over 1000 computers in a university not all that long ago.), so I'm not totally without clue when it comes to computers/networking... but the permissions and some other stuff are a bit confounding in ubuntu. Anyone have some leads on where to go to get help for making my linux box a router (wired, using a switch and having a few windows boxes go t
[03:24] <Sp0tUbuntu> WebcamWonder: That is a default program?
[03:24] <WebcamWonder> Sp0tUbuntu: Yeah, very close to kernel kinda stuff
[03:24] <jillian> lol..ok..this is hilarious...it says 8.10.. i guess it did upgrade
[03:24] <Pawka> HI guys can you recommend a quicktime alternative and a video editor ?
[03:24] <fearful> jillian: :p, hah there you go
[03:25] <fearful> jillian: Just now your sure :)
[03:25] <Sp0tUbuntu> WebcamWonder: Ok, thanks! With GUI right? Im new in linuxworld! :-)
[03:25] <tavius> hello - I am lost!
[03:25] <jillian> ok..one more thing...my sound doesn't work
[03:25] <TheInternal> I thought Mac OS was linux based. quicktime won't run natively?
[03:25] <IntuitiveNipple> TheInternal: What specifically do you need to do?
[03:25] <fearful> jillian: Did you say you install inside windows?
[03:25] <jillian> lol...nevermind...
[03:26] <WebcamWonder> Sp0tUbuntu: I think there was a panel app for it, but don't remember. Haven't dived in that mess for a while now
[03:26] <jillian> sorry...i just checked it and it's working now
[03:26] <qcjn> hi, i've got a document .doc,  tile, paragraph, title,paragraph that i'd like to switch to a database, anyone knows of a good way without doing ct & paste 200 times ?
[03:26] <jillian> weird
[03:26] <fearful> jillian: Ok
[03:26] <jillian> you were a big help..thanx
[03:26] <tavius> anyone here know how I can set up my computer to route my other computer through it to the net... both are ubuntu, and I have them talking to each other... but the other one won't reach the net
[03:26] <fearful> jillian: Any time
[03:26] <Sp0tUbuntu> WebcamWonder: Ok, i look into it then! Thanks for the hint
[03:27] <IntuitiveNipple> TheInternal: OSX is based on FreeBSD 5
[03:27] <racecar56> i didnt know that
[03:27] <Klaz168> Sp0tUbuntu, right click on ur panel, then add "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor"
[03:27] <racecar56> i thought it was based on plain ol' unix
[03:27] <tavius> anyone familiar enough with networking and using a computer as a router to answer that?
[03:28] <TheInternal> Hey Nipple: I want to use my old clunker computer as a router (rather than buy a router) for my small home wired network. I have an 8 port 10/100/1000 switch and all the compies in the network have 1 Gb nics. I want to use my linux box (named "Uggy") as the router, connect my cable modem via 10/100 nic, connect to the switch as the uplink on the 10/100/1000, and have all the computers on my network be able to access the internet. I'd 
[03:28] <randy_> yo
[03:28] <IntuitiveNipple> tavius: on the 'client' you need to set a default route that sends things to the 'router' PC (e.g. ip route add default dev eth0 via 192.16.0.1)
[03:28] <TheInternal> I honestly can't recall the origins of Mac OS. FreeBSD or Unix... neither would suprise me.
[03:28] <Sp0tUbuntu> Klaz168: Create launcher?
[03:29] <radec> ok i have a simple question but i can't figure it out. i'm trying to restore a mysql database via ssh. my password has an ! character in it. this seems to make the command line freak out and add a long command, something i typed a while ago, in the middle of my password (where the !) is. any suggestions short of changing the password?
[03:29] <azkaban> hi everybody
[03:29] <WebcamWonder> radec: escape it like, \!?
[03:29] <_2> tavius you have to enable ipv?_forwarding on the gateway, and point the client at the host with something like  "route add default gw <ip_of_host>"
[03:29] <WebcamWonder> radec: Withpout the question mark that is
[03:29] <Klaz168> Sp0tUbuntu, right click on panel, then select 'add to panel'
[03:29] <TheInternal> hey azk
[03:30] <Sp0tUbuntu> Klaz168: Ahh, im on desktop clicking! :-D
[03:30] <IntuitiveNipple> TheInternal: For a router, the PC should have two interfaces (WAN, LAN). Configure the router to be a DNS and DHCP server. Enable IP forwarding, set the router LAN IP as the gateway in DHCP so all clients route through it.
[03:30] <radec> WebcamWonder: hmmm thanks that might work lol
[03:30] <Klaz168> Sp0tUbuntu, scroll down untill you find 'CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor'
[03:30] <IntuitiveNipple> TheInternal: Ensure the router PC has a default route for 0.0.0.0 to the WAN interface
[03:30] <Sp0tUbuntu> Klaz168: Thanks! Just the way i like it! :-)
[03:30] <_2> tavius edit /etc/sysctl.conf
[03:30] <TheNational22> little help with visudo
[03:31] <Klaz168> yrw
[03:31] <TheInternal> Nipple: I sort of followed that. I can build a network in windows and have it work, but I'm not strong in that area. Lemme reread what you wrote real quick...
[03:31] <_2> TheNational22 ?
[03:31] <Sp0tUbuntu> Sysinfo for 'spot-laptop': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running , CPU: Intel(R)Core2DuoCPUT7250@2.00GHz at 800 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 7/109GB, RAM: 1782/3952MB, 133 proc's, 1.9h up
[03:31] <TheNational22> i added a new user, typed visudo to edit permisons but cant edit the file
[03:32] <TheInternal> yes, I have two NICs installed, one for WAN, one for LAN. what application/program do I use to set up a DNS and DHCP server
[03:32] <ScottG489> Anyone here use TuxOnIce?
[03:32] <Guest50591> i need some help..
[03:32] <MFen> has anyone tried to put a vnc server on the internet?  i'm trying to share port 5801 ... my friend can get the applet to come up in his browser, but can't log in
[03:33] <_2> TheNational22 you will have to use a user account that can already use sudo and    sudo visudo
[03:33] <MFen> i'm going through a nat too. just wondering what i should be looking at first.. security settings for tightvnc somewhere or a web proxy?
[03:33] <TheNational22> so from root/
[03:33] <Guest50591> how do i install nvidia graphics card 9500 geforce gt
[03:33] <TheNational22> ?
[03:33] <TheInternal> Nipple: "Configure the router to be a DNS and DHCP server. Enable IP forwarding, set the router LAN IP as the gateway in DHCP so all clients route through it." is the part I need help with. I don't know what in Ubuntu will let me do any of that. I have a fair idea of what DHCP is/does, but no idea where to start in Ubuntu on configuring static or dynamic IP assigning
[03:34] <Klaz168> Guest50591, Systen > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[03:34] <Klaz168> System*
[03:34] <TheInternal> Guest50591, I installed my geforce card by going to system> administration > hardware drivers
[03:34] <Guest50591> tried that
[03:34] <Guest50591> didnt show up there
[03:35] <_2> TheNational22 yes superuser
[03:36] <TheInternal> I know for my geforce card that my card was not specifically listed
[03:36] <TheInternal> I just had to read the driver descriptions, pick one of em, then select activate.
[03:36] <Guest50591> my driver list is empty
[03:37] <IntuitiveNipple> TheInternal: I'd suggest you read up on, and use, dnsmasq. It is a light-weight combined DNS relay and DHCP server
[03:37] <TheInternal> I'm a linux noob, mind you... it's empty? have you tried the repository (add/remove programs) stuff maybe?
[03:37] <TheInternal> Nipple: thanks. dnsmasq. that in the default repositories?
[03:37] <Guest50591> lol i just started ubuntu today
[03:38] <TheInternal> I've been poking at linux for abour a week now
[03:38] <slipst> I have an uninterru
[03:38] <slipst> sorry
[03:39] <Klaz168> Guest50591, you can install the drivers manually. take a look at nvidia.co.uk
[03:39] <tritium> Klaz168: no!
[03:39] <slipst> I have an uninterruptible process that won't be killed in system monitor, do I have to restart or is there another way?
[03:39] <IntuitiveNipple> TheInternal: Yes
[03:39] <tritium> Guest50591: install the nvidia packages
[03:39] <TheInternal> Nipple: I'm not finding it, even with a search all including all repositories
[03:39] <tritium> Guest50591: since your card is a very recent model, try installing nvidia-glx-180.  If that doesn't work, fall back to nvidia-glx-177
[03:40] <tritium> Klaz168: we don't recommend nvidia.com downloads.
[03:40] <alp1> Can I ask about my nvidia problem?
[03:41] <racecar56> why does brasero always do simulations on burning, it takes ages!
[03:41] <TheInternal> "There is no matching application available." :( have a url for a safe repository that would carry it?
[03:41] <Mac181> There isnt like a "Newbie's guide to understanding Ubuntu Forum Problem Fixes"
[03:41] <Mac181> I feel like I need a translator for the hep guides.
[03:41] <md5> Hello, I have a problem with vmware. I have Ubuntu 8.10 and Windows XP on my computer. From XP I am trying to connect to Ubuntu with vmware. Everything is ok, the only problem the keyboard doesn't work. What should I do? I believe that I need to change something in configuration file.
[03:41] <racecar56> virtualbox pwns vmware
[03:41] <nbeebo> any reason why internet on ubuntu just turned extremely slow?
[03:42] <IntuitiveNipple> TheInternal: do apt-cache search dnsmasq
[03:42] <TheInternal> nbeebo: underpants gnomes diversifying?
[03:42] <nbeebo> dumb me, only one specific site.. lol
[03:42] <racecar56> lolz
[03:42] <Mac181> Case in point: I have no idea what IntuitiveNipple said.
[03:42] <racecar56> why does brasero always do simulations on burning, it takes ages!
[03:42] <racecar56> can i disable it?
[03:42] <IntuitiveNipple> TheInternal: dnsmasq is in the Universe repository
[03:42] <_2> Mac181 copy and paste that string into a terminal... "apt-cache search dnsmasq"
[03:43] <Sarthor> Hi I am here for getting help again, multiple isp routing is just bad word for me. according to http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html i did all and you can see my pasted configurations on http://pastebin.com/f681a1e36 , i am eager to be helped, i am stuck now..
[03:43] <TheInternal> Nipple: that got a few lines that looked promising. Do I need to "apt-get dnsmasq" then?
[03:44] <_2> TheInternal syntax error.   operation  dnsmasq  not understood by apt-get
[03:44] <winmutt> anyone know of a decent xml browser? I have some complicated xsd I need to peruse
[03:44] <Mac181> It looks like some glossary entry, though I couldnt for the life of me tell you what it means.
[03:44] <_2> TheInternal you mean "apt-get install  dnsmasq"
[03:44] <racecar56> XML browser? never heard of it
[03:44] <TheInternal> ah. thanks _2
[03:45] <JesperHansen> winmutt: firefox supports xml pretty fine
[03:45] <TheInternal> urg. permission denied.
[03:45] <TheInternal> how do I find the root terminal in ubuntu?
[03:45] <winmutt> jesper: its ok but not really waht i need
[03:45] <racecar56> sudo?
[03:45] <TheInternal> in debian, there was one labeled "root"
[03:45] <winmutt> root terminal?
[03:45] <Mac181> I have 3 common-enough issues. My brightness control is messed, my speakers stay on when my headphones are plugged in, and putting my computer to sleep results in a black screen with just a cursor that I have to restart to escape. All issues I've seen on the forum, but I cant understand the fixes.
[03:45] <JesperHansen> winmutt: please use tab-completion
[03:45] <tritium> TheInternal: sudo -i
[03:45] <_2> TheInternal run sudo -i    in any terminal
[03:45] <TheInternal> sudo is temp admin perms, right?
[03:45] <winmutt> JesperHansen: its faulty :)
[03:46] <JesperHansen> winmutt: what do you need then that firefox doesn't provide?
[03:46] <tritium> TheInternal: it'll acheive what you want.  Try "sudo -i" in the terminal now.
[03:46] <_2> TheInternal well sort of.   in ubuntu's default use of it.  the primary user account is "root jr." so to speak.
[03:46] <TheInternal> I already did. looks like the download is going
[03:46] <Jerusalem420> i just upgraded to firefox 3.0.6 and installed a plugin called foxytunes to control the media player from within he browser. i selected rythymbox as my defauly player, but the rythbox it opens isn't the one i have set up. any ideas?
[03:47] <winmutt> jesper: better tabbing and easier on the eyes, these xml schemas I am looking at are ridiculous
[03:47] <winmutt> sigh
[03:47] <TheInternal> root jr., eh? By default, ubuntu isn't using admin level account, right?
[03:47] <winmutt> JesperHansen:
[03:47] <tritium> TheInternal: not sure what you mean by that exactly, but the root account is locked by default.
[03:48] <_2> TheInternal no. that's not what i mean.  i mean that the primary user account has unlimited sudo usage   thus can do any thing root can do.
[03:48] <JesperHansen> winmutt: what you mean by better tabbing? Easier on eyes sounds like you just need to choose another theme
[03:48] <TheInternal> tri: for comparison, in windows, you have "root" access if you're on an admin account. Why not have a similar option for Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Mac181> How common of a name is Jesper Hansen?
[03:48] <winmutt> jesper: ff defaults to 2 spaces. I need more.. I really need something more complete. These schemas are ridiculous
[03:48] <TheInternal> or is it for security sake that the sudo and pass have to be used so much
[03:49] <Mac181> Slash, do you know a guy named John Kelly?
[03:49] <tritium> Mac181: please stay on topic
[03:49] <cjae> !gnome&kde
[03:49] <un_dave> hey all, i'm looking for an rss reader that supports text to speech of articles. i'm looking to use it in my car on the way home from work.
[03:49] <_2> TheInternal for security sake.    and to add a level of security you should make a secondary account and use it for non-admin normal use    "that's my openion anyway"
[03:50] <Mac181> LOL, my question sails over everyone's notice, but my side convo raises ire.
[03:50] <winmutt> JesperHansen: eff it all ill try to go blind with ff
[03:50] <illume> day 8 of trying to hear sound...
[03:50] <illume> Anyone know how to get sound working on a macpro?
[03:50] <cjae> anyway to install gnome and kde but without all the mess in each others environment? or so you manually have to sift through each menu?
[03:50] <JesperHansen> winmutt: The people in #firefox on irc.mozilla.org might be able to help you make it pretty for you. (its all a choice of opinion)
[03:51] <judgepg> Hi guys, how should I format my external HDD in gparted?  Should I use primary or extended partition?
[03:51] <JesperHansen> More joins and leaves in here than messages
[03:51] <_2> cjae i don't know what you mean about the menu  but you can install kde and gnome and any other desktop env/window manager
[03:52] <JesperHansen> judgepg: extended is if you want more than 4 partitions
[03:52] <Guiri> Can eBox be configured to use mysql instead? It wants to install postgresql
[03:52] <TheInternal> looks like dnsmasq is downloaded... no icon though. No GNOME support or GUI for it?
[03:52] <mindrape> JesperHansen its a support channel... people come and go once they get helped.
[03:52] <_2> judgepg if you want to,  yes
[03:52] <mindrape> Guiri - we dont offer support for individual applications.  Please consult the man page for the application or the developer site.
[03:52] <Phillomath> judgepg: Don't need extended until you get over four primary
[03:52] <_2> judgepg linux doesn't care if there are partitions or not.   but if you want them use them
[03:52] <Jerusalem420> internal thanks for the answer
[03:53] <Jerusalem420> i actually realized that was probably the problem after i typed the question
[03:53] <winmutt> jesperhens: no its just ridiculous
[03:53] <judgepg> JesperHansen, thanks guys.  I just want to format an external HDD, as it's new.
[03:53] <cjae> _2: if you install both the main menus are ridiculous after, I mean is there a way to install without having gnome apps in kde and vice versa
[03:53] <Phillomath> judgepg: Only really need to worry about it for windows partions
[03:53] <Jerusalem420> i ran one of the parts of the upgrade to firefox 3.x as root
[03:53] <winmutt> this XSD is for ONIX
[03:53] <keres> when installing ubuntu on my very old p3 laptop i get a bunch of input/output errors on my HDD when loading the LiveCD or just the installer. I select it from the menu and it just goes black and lists these errors?
[03:53] <winmutt> and its mindboggling large
[03:53] <judgepg> Phillomath, it's a brand-new HDD, so I want to format it so it can be readable by Windows as well
[03:53] <Sarthor> Hi I am here for getting help again, multiple isp routing is just bad word for me. according to http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html i did all and you can see my pasted configurations on http://pastebin.com/f681a1e36 , i am eager to be helped, i am stuck now..
[03:53] <TheInternal> heheee. glad I was indirectly of assistance, jeru.
[03:53] <_2> cjae in a way, i hope not.
[03:53] <Jerusalem420> and i've been using root firefox since then cause the non root one doesn't load my bookmarks. but i'm about to fix that
[03:54] <Phillomath> judgepg: In that case format to primary
[03:54] <cjae> _2: why
[03:54] <Phillomath> judgepg: Windows can't deal with extended
[03:54] <judgepg> Phillomath, it will not override my MBR and internal HDD?
[03:54] <letalis> anyone ever tried to transfer files to a phone via bluetooth in nautilus?
[03:54] <nefrin> Ok, still having install problems here: I've setup my partitions correctly for an Ubuntu install, but I keep getting an ERROR 17 on grub loader. I have tried to reinstall GRUB using the liveCD, but when I enter the "find /boot/grub/stage1" from the grub prompt, it says there is no such file (which the file is located in the /boot partition)
[03:54] <JesperHansen> winmutt: I cant keep track if you dont write my nick right when you're writing to me
[03:54] <Jerusalem420> can someone link me to a faq about running two ubuntu computers off of one isp connection and networking the two?
[03:54] <boshhead> apt-cache --names-only --installed search linux <-- I'm trying to find all packages that are installed with "linux" in the package name (not description). But this is returning packages like "grub", and it's also returning things that are not installed. What am I doing wrong?
[03:54] <Jerusalem420> never set up a private network with linux
[03:54] <TheInternal> jeru, sounds like we're both on a similar boat.
[03:54] <judgepg> Phillomath, I may be asking the wrong question, I just want to make sure the HDD doesn't mess up with my Ubuntu system
[03:54] <keres> when installing ubuntu on my very old p3 laptop i get a bunch of input/output errors on my HDD when loading the LiveCD or just the installer. I select it from the menu and it just goes black and lists these errors?
[03:55] <mindrape> Jerusalem420 via cross over cable or what?  Just get a $30 router... then plug them in.  Done.
[03:55] <winmutt> JesperHansen: now you know how i feel about ff xml out put :)
[03:55] <letalis> i have a vx990 (enV) and i was curious if the obex support ing nautilus had read write support or if my phone is read only.
[03:55] <_2> cjae seeing that the libs that an app uses doesn't restrict it to being used only in that particular env.    i run qt apps in gnome and gtk apps in kde    i wouldn't want them to be omitted just because they use a different lib
[03:55] <Phillomath> judgepg: Nope, just make sure you have the right disk selected before you format ;-)
[03:55] <TheInternal> I'm trying to figure out how to turn my ubuntu box into a router.
[03:55] <letalis> 9900
[03:55] <mindrape> TheInternal - JUST a router?  Nothing more?
[03:55] <IntuitiveNipple> nefrin: If you have a separate boot partition, you should use "find /grub/stage1"
[03:55] <mindrape> !router
[03:55] <judgepg> Phillomath, thanks that's great!
[03:55] <JesperHansen> winmutt: Other browsers might do it differently, but you can just edit the .css file for it to meet you demands.
[03:55] <TheInternal> I'll probably have it run BOINC too
[03:55] <Phillomath> judgepg: np
[03:55] <nefrin> IntuitiveNipple ---- will try that
[03:56] <Jerusalem420> what about authentication?
[03:56] <_2> cjae and if there is a way "without manually editing the menu"  i don't know of it.
[03:56] <Jerusalem420> for the isp
[03:56] <Jerusalem420> and how do the computers see each other across the router?
[03:56] <winmutt> ONIX is mind boggling
[03:56] <Jerusalem420> noobie quesitons
[03:56] <_2> cjae that doesn't mean it doesnt exist tho
[03:56] <TheInternal> mindrape: router and for internet throttling to specific compies. BOINC as well.
[03:56]  * Jerusalem420 doesn't like feeling like a noob on tech things
[03:56] <TheInternal> I feel you jeru.
[03:56] <mindrape> TheInternal - and I take it you've taken the time to google and found this link but it wasn't what you wanted?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[03:57] <sagredo> I feel 420
[03:57] <cjae> _2: I mean that is great but who wants a two page menu, I mean you should be able to call the gnome app in kde but 7 browsers, file manager, etc in a menu is a little much
[03:57] <sagredo> burn that up
[03:57] <TheInternal> mindrape: yes, read it a few times.
[03:57] <Mac181> I'm sympathetic, Jeru, but everyone was a 'noob' once. Tell me, where did you learn?
[03:57]  * _2 quit caring about being such a nub about the 7 year of being one...
[03:57] <TheInternal> mindrape: I am neither an intermediate or advanced linux user, sadly. Many of the assumptions made are clearly ones that a total linux noob won't get.
[03:58] <mindrape> TheInternal - describe the topology you want to put in place... where will your router sit (just want to make sure you are doing it right)
[03:58] <_2> cjae heh.  a gui is more than is needed   ;/
[03:58] <TheInternal> mindrape: I'll copy and paste... one moment please
[03:58] <Mac181> I am a total linux 'noob', and when even the step-by-step help threads on the forum are sailing over my head, its quite frustrating.
[03:58] <Overand> TheInternal: Personally, ubuntu isn't my distribution-of-choice for running a router - it's veruy capable, but I like having a frontend.
[03:59] <Jerusalem420> mostly self taught on windows, then switched over 3 years ago. i have a former roomate/friend who breaths linux
[03:59] <Jerusalem420> he's been around to hold my hand
[03:59] <Gnea> Mac181: it helps once you've successfully made it through a thing or 3
[03:59] <Jerusalem420> and i use this chat and the faqs
[03:59] <TheInternal> mindrape: I want to use my old clunker computer as a router (rather than buy a router) for my small home wired network. I have an 8 port 10/100/1000 switch and all the compies in the network have 1 Gb nics. I want to use my linux box (named "Uggy") as the router, connect my cable modem via 10/100 nic, connect to the switch as the uplink on the 10/100/1000, and have all the computers on my network be able to access the internet. I'd li
[03:59] <Overand> Mac181: you'll find that once you've passed a certain point, things will start to 'click'
[03:59] <Mac181> I also have a friend, but I cant expect him to be available at whim to help me. He got my mic working, but that's only 1/4 busted systems.
[03:59] <Overand> There's a very real 'aha' moment.
[03:59] <_2> Mac181 oh yes. i remember those days quite well.    first thing to do is "forget everything you know about computers" so you can start without all the garbage you picked up from that other os... :)
[04:00] <TheInternal> overand: being new to linux, I'm open to sugge3stions if there is an easy to use (and relatively automated) distro to try out. GUI is preferred.
[04:00] <Gnea> Overand: very well put :)
[04:00] <cjae> _2: right but I try to turn ppl on to linux and away from doze so cli for anything is not an option and kde in 8.10 is a little flakey so I would like to have both
[04:00] <PressureX> Hey guys
[04:00] <Jerusalem420> windblows you mean _2?
[04:00] <Mac181> Lucky me, I didnt pick up much garbage beforehand.
[04:00] <Mac181> "I cant afford a new mac, I dont want windows... lets install Ubuntu!"
[04:00] <Mac181> And now here I am.
[04:00] <racecar56> YAY!
[04:00] <racecar56> good
[04:00] <cjae> _2: plus g/f isn't going to use cli either
[04:00] <PressureX> Ubuntu sure looks cool, now I wish I knew how to use it right o_O, im so confused ...
[04:00] <racecar56> windows fails and mac too expensive is right
[04:00] <racecar56> i agree
[04:00] <TheInternal> this is only my second time to ask for any help, personally. I've done a TON of reading and trial and error to even get ubuntu to install on my old clunker.
[04:00] <Mac181> Good, yes, but I dont know how to fix problems.
[04:01] <_2> Jerusalem420 so it does...  so it does...
[04:01] <PressureX> I've been reading for the past 4 hours, I still don't know how to do what Im trying to do, lol.
[04:01] <Gnea> Mac181: first of all, you need to establish a list of problems or goals that you would like to achieve
[04:01] <racecar56> however my first comp had windows 98SE and my first linux to use was xandros desktop 3.04
[04:01] <nefrin> Ok, so I reinstalled the GRUB through the liveCD, but I am still getting Error 17 when booting up
[04:01] <mcohen> hi all, I have just had a failed upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, somewhat experienced linux user, at a bit of a loss, can anyone help?
[04:01] <racecar56> but i like ubuntu the best out of them all
[04:02] <Gnea> Mac181: second, start from the bottom with the smallest problems
[04:02] <Jerusalem420> the internal, the people here are usually very helpful
[04:02] <mindrape> mcohen - error msgs you got?
[04:02] <_2> nefrin raid ?
[04:02] <Jerusalem420> its nice to say thanks
[04:02] <mindrape> PressureX what are you trying to do?
[04:02] <Jerusalem420> not that you don;t
[04:02] <PressureX> Would somebody be so kind in helping me getting my wireless to work?
[04:02] <Jerusalem420> i'm just giving u some advice
[04:02] <Mac181> I have that. I want the speakers to turn off when the headphones are in. I want the screen brightness control to not be seemingly set on random, and I want the suspend function to work and not go to a dead-end command line.
[04:02] <anom01y> is it a pain to switch from kde to xfce ? I installed kubuntu 8.04
[04:02] <nefrin> _2 ---- not understanding the question
[04:02] <mcohen> erm, bit of a complex process, if you have sometime, should we take this to private?
[04:02] <hacker_kid> im trying to add an OS to my grub menu.lst, its a linux distro installed on the first hard disc, on the 5th partition (a logical partition inside the third partition), the kernel is at /boot/vmlinuz but when i try and boot it i get file not found
[04:03] <TheInternal> heee. I'm appreciative :P I'm very slow to ask for help is all. I've easily spent 50 hours in the last week, reading and troubleshooting rather than sleeping XD
[04:03] <mindrape> PressureX - sure... lspci -k          sudo lshw -C network
[04:03] <mindrape> PressureX - pastebin the results and give me the link.
[04:03] <Gnea> Mac181: well, for the first one, are the speakers built into the system or externally plugged, like the headphones?
[04:03] <Jerusalem420> ok. i exported my root bookmark file for firefox and can't get the user firefox to use it
[04:04] <racecar56> i like ubuntu 8.10 better than 8.04.x
[04:04] <Mac181> Internal.
[04:04] <mindrape> Jerusalem420 check the perms on the file?  You may have some chown/chmod'ing in your future.
[04:04] <racecar56> my first ubuntu to use was 8.04.0
[04:04] <mindrape> !grub | hacker_kid
[04:04] <smeegs> Has anyone played with flow-capture?  I installed on Intrepid from the repository, configured it and it's not starting.  I can't find any logging anywhere to indicate why and an strace doesn't mean a lot to me.
[04:04] <Jerusalem420> i already 777ed it
[04:04] <PressureX> It says a lot, and I can't copy and paste it, since right now im on my laptop, and im trying to get ubuntu to run on my desktop here next to me :P
[04:04] <TheInternal> mindrape: to simplify the topology - cable modem <---> "Uggy" my Ubuntu box <---> 8 port switch <---> computers on network
[04:04] <Gnea> Mac181: and they don't turn off automatically?! that is very weird. what is the make and model of your computer?
[04:04] <mcohen> ok, here's what happened:  ok, here's what happened:  Initial install was kubuntu, disliked crashes in dolphin & kde 4, switched to gnome, so it was kubuntu with gnome, using gdm, for about a week or two
[04:04] <Mac181> Lenovo Ideapad y50.
[04:05] <Mac181> I see multiple threads with this problem, and atleast 3 fixes.
[04:05] <hacker_kid> mindrape, i have and am going through those documents. im asking for help because i cant find anything
[04:05] <Mac181> *y530
[04:05] <TheInternal> I've been using my dual core windows box, but would rather have a clunker box that could get the job done.
[04:05] <Gnea> hrm
[04:05] <Gnea> !laptop
[04:05] <Guiri> mindrape: is there a way to specifically exclude packages from being installed? like apt-get install ebox --deny postgresql?
[04:05] <Mac181> I dont know which fix works, and I cant understand the instructions because I'm a 100% beginner.
[04:05] <mindrape> PressureX - well on the lspci -k command look for something that could be your wireless card and tell me the driver its presently attempting to use.  On the lshw -C network command tell me what on earth kind of card it is.
[04:05] <mcohen> ran the upgrade to 8.10, a number of packages failed, when I restarted with the new kernel, it hangs after the username/password stage
[04:05] <Jerusalem420> wht was ubuntu 3.x called?
[04:05] <Guiri> !ebox
[04:05] <Gnea> the bot is such a great reference :)
[04:05] <mindrape> Guiri - yes, but you will likely get breakage.  They build dependencies for a reason.
[04:05] <mcohen> ran in debug mode, dpkg, but it scrolls a whole bunch of various failures and comes out with a general failure at the end
[04:06] <racecar56> what the... i burned a ubuntu server 8.10 CD and it isnt bootable nor is it readable
[04:06] <mcohen> so basically I'm not sure what in particular has broken for it because it all scrolls past my eyes
[04:06] <racecar56> LOLWUT
[04:06] <Guiri> well I'm trying to avoid compiling here. If I install then the scripts go in their proper places. If I compile I can use mysql instead, but have no idea where stuff goes
[04:06] <_2> "<Jerusalem420> wht was ubuntu 3.x called?"  non-existant.
[04:06] <Guiri> I'm looking for a middle ground
[04:06] <Mac181> Ubuntuforums.org mentions fixes. Its not that no one knows how. Its equivilent to someone answering my question in greek.
[04:06] <racecar56> yet my download is not corrupt
[04:06] <Mac181>  I can guess a few words but I'm mostly helpless.
[04:06] <Jerusalem420> 4.x then
[04:06] <PressureX> well, on lspci -k, it says: "01:08.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)"
[04:06] <_2> Jerusalem420 4.10 warty warthog
[04:07] <racecar56> and does ubuntu 4.04 exist? or is it just giving me a 404 error because its ubuntu 4.04?
[04:07] <racecar56> lol
[04:07] <_2> Jerusalem420 that was the beginning.
[04:07] <Jerusalem420> thats when i started
[04:07] <mindrape> Guiri - well then yes.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375194
[04:07] <_2> !release
[04:08] <fearful> How long ago was 4.10
[04:08] <Gnea> hrmm
[04:08] <_2> fearful  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[04:08] <fearful> oh sorry didn't read
[04:08] <mcohen> anyone?
[04:08] <_2> short answer it was in 4 10
[04:08] <PressureX> on lshw -C network it says a bunch, but the line to my wireless card says "*-network description: Network Controller, product: BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless Lan Controller, vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[04:08] <PressureX> etc. etc.
[04:08] <un_dave> does anyone know of an rss reader with text-to-speech support?
[04:08] <Jerusalem420> there has got to be a way to migrate all my root firefox settings to user firefox
[04:09] <mindrape> PressureX - can you sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-modules (see if its already there)
[04:09] <PressureX> 1 sec
[04:10] <Mac181> I get the idea that I'm either going to need a "Complete Idiot's Guide" type book, or I"ll need my friend to sit down with me and explain all.
[04:10] <PressureX> "Reading package lists... Done, Building dependenct tree, Reading state information... Done, E: Couldn't find package linux-kernel-modules
[04:10] <mcohen> gents? anyone can give me a hand rescuing this failed upgrade?
[04:10] <mindrape> PressureX - sorry... linux-restricted-modules
[04:10] <mindrape> my bad
[04:11] <Gnea> Mac181: the headphone issue sounds like something that's specific to the ideapad (i've never ever heard of that problem with any other laptop. ever.)
[04:11] <_2> Jerusalem420 close all ff's   'sudo cp -R /root/.firefox $HOME ;chown -R $USER $HOME'
[04:11] <PressureX> same message for linux-restricted-modules
[04:11] <mindrape> hrrmmm... well maybe your repos need some fixin'.
[04:11] <PressureX> that darn can;t find package comes up with anything I try, network-admin, network-manager, everything
[04:11] <Jerusalem420> can i just copy my cookies and bookmarks and saved passwords
[04:11] <mindrape> there is another way though... let's try this...
[04:11] <PMT> I'm running Jaunty. My DNS requests are failing sometimes, it's not clear why - nslookup is always succeeding, telnet or ssh or similar fail sometimes, the strace thinks it's /etc/mdns.allow, google doesn't turn up anything useful for this bug.
[04:11] <_2> Jerusalem420 that will also overwrite any user settings  so make backups first.
[04:12] <fearful> wow 4.10 looks really cool lol
[04:12] <TheInternal> I guess I'll post this question here: if you want an older machine (athlon XP 2000+ with a poop graphics card and 256 MB of RAM) to function as a router, will it be able to route effectively at high speeds (ideally with bandwidth throttling to certain PCs) while running a distro like Ubuntu? I'd like to run BOINC as well as be a router, but honestly don't plan on using the box for much else (maybe as a file/print server)
[04:12] <mindrape> PressureX - this link has the fix for the exact driver you are using I believe - - - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=905350
[04:12] <Jerusalem420> there are no user settings and it will leave the root ones alone, correct?
[04:12] <Mac181> It may be a Lenovo thing.
[04:12] <_2> correct
[04:12] <_2> Jerusalem420 oops
[04:12] <PressureX> Ok, let me read through it, ill let ya know when im done. thanks so much man.
[04:12] <Jerusalem420> can't stat /root/.firefox
[04:12] <_2> Jerusalem420 close all ff's   'sudo cp -R /root/.firefox $HOME ;sudo chown -R $USER $HOME'  <<< i forgot the second sudo the first time.
[04:13] <Mac181> Ehh, I'll have to deal with this later. None of these are critical issues. The computer works fine, as long as I'm not trying to dim my screen, play music quietly, or put it to sleep.
[04:13] <_2> err  maybe .mozilla-firefox ?
[04:13] <Jerusalem420> i'm running bash as root
[04:13] <Mac181> Right now I have to go interview a porn star.
[04:13] <PMT> Mac181: what kind of Lenovo?
[04:13] <Mac181> Seriously.
[04:13] <_2> Jerusalem420 then the command wont work.
[04:13] <TheInternal> would a different distro be better for routering, BOINCing, and file/printer sharing if that's about all it would do?
[04:13] <Mac181> Ideapad y530.
[04:13] <Gnea> Mac181: hrm, the suspend problem seems to be somewhat documented already... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/311494
[04:13] <fearful> can you still download ubuntu 4.10
[04:13] <mindrape> TheInternal - Coyote Linux.
[04:13] <Mac181> Gnea: I know all 3 of my problems have atleast some commonness to em.
[04:14] <mindrape> fearful - if you want to get exploited every other day... surely you can find it somewhere.
[04:14] <histo> fearful: why could you possibly want that?
[04:14] <fearful> just to mess around with it like not even online
[04:14] <mcohen> what does it mean when dpkg returns an error code (1)?
[04:14] <smeegs> No-one configured flow-tools before?
[04:14] <Jerusalem420> i found the .mozilla/firefox
[04:14] <_2> Jerusalem420 anyway the basic idea is to copy the data to the users home and chown it     but using the variables  $USER and $HOME  will fail if the shell is not owned by the target user.
[04:14] <eternaljoy> fearful: reading is good for you ;)
[04:14] <histo> fearful: I don't htink the repos are still up.
[04:14] <Gnea> Mac181: I find it odd, but not uncommon that new systems have problems like this. have you made a post to ubuntuforums already or have you just been following threads on there?
[04:15] <_2> Jerusalem420 so you can adjust the command as needed.
[04:15] <fearful> i'll read then
[04:15] <fearful> lol
[04:15] <mindrape> fearful - do you just want a light-weight distro?
[04:15] <histo> fearful: I stand corrected
[04:15] <histo> fearful: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/
[04:15] <mcohen> mindrape - do you have any time atm, or shortly?
[04:15] <PMT> Mac181: You're apparently leaving, I'm assuming you've checked ThinkWiki and have no useful advice from it?
[04:15] <mindrape> mcohen - sure...
[04:15] <PressureX> mindrape - What if it doesn't find "ndisgtk" in the Synaptic Package Manager? :o
[04:15] <Mac181> Following threds.
[04:15] <TheInternal> mindrape: thanks for your continued patience, mind. Coyote is listed as being no longer maintained though. can it do BOINC and file/printer sharing as well? (does it have a noobie friendly gui)?
[04:15] <Mac181> Thinkwiki?
[04:15] <fearful> mindrape: no not really, I just saw some cool screen shots people running 4.10
[04:16] <mindrape> PressureX - did you read the instructions on enabling the other repos?
[04:16] <Jerusalem420> "will fail if the shell is not owned by the target user." meaning i need to run it as user with the sudo? how is that different than running it in sudo bash|?
[04:16] <PressureX> yeah
[04:16] <mindrape> fearful - you can theme any distro to look like any screenshot... send me a screenshot and I'll tell you what they did.  :)
[04:16] <PressureX> There are only 2 when I go to Third Party apps, then it says something with update, well, that doesn't work since there is no internet on it, so when I click close, their still checked and all
[04:16] <Mac181> This fix looks downright easy, but I dont know how to do what what it tells me to do. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend
[04:16] <PressureX> but I checked them both
[04:16] <mcohen> mindrape - I am trying dpkg fixing in the recovery mode, but a bunch of packages simply fail to upgrade/install properly, including a bunch of base gnome packages like gnome-applets and nautilus
[04:17] <fearful> http://www.alleslinux.com/prog_pics/ubuntu-dick.png
[04:17] <Gnea> Mac181: if you can find the time, I would encourage you to make a detailed post of your own regarding these problems you're experiencing. It's been a little over a month since the problems started to surface, so now would be an excellent time to get in on it - someone may have a solution
[04:17] <_2> fearful several releases are no longer supported. but you can still use them   and the packages are in old-releases.ubuntu.com  i think
[04:17] <mindrape> mcohen - have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[04:17] <fearful> _2: thanks
[04:18] <PMT> World - any thoughts on my DNS issues? It's kind of annoying getting Failure to resolve nondeterministically without ever querying the DNS server.
[04:18] <chuckc> i got 3 new drives, setup raid 5 on them, formatted the raid, now have decided to install LVM and then format the drives.  What is the process for removing the format or what exactly should i do at this point?
[04:18] <mcohen> mindrape - a lot of errors like so and so package depends on python-gtk2 but that package is not configured yet
[04:18] <PressureX> mindrape - hold on, I found it manually, ima go back to reading (for some reason quick search didn't find it)
[04:18] <Mac181> I see. Well, I think I need to get my friend to sit down with me and help me through one of the easier ones (the suspend fix seems downright easy). Once I can translate those commands into actions, I'm on solid footing to start learning to fend for myself.
[04:18] <mindrape> mcohen - sudo dpkg -configure python-gtk2
[04:19] <mcohen> mindrape - I had the ubuntu packages for python, numpy etc but also installed the latest versions independently from source.  When I ran the upgrades, packages like python-cairo and numy have failed to install, don't know why
[04:19] <Mac181> But yeah, porn stars are waiting for me.
[04:19] <Gnea> Mac181: sounds good, he should be able to help you out with that. good luck with the interviews.
[04:19] <TheInternal> other than finding a user friendly router/firewall distro that can do BOINC and file/printer sharing... the only other pressing issue is how to get Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 1100... which I've heard is a pain if not impossible. (not to mention the fact that the BIOS on the Dell I'm working on is so ancient that I have to find an intermediate bios update before I can do the current one, and I've had no  luck finding one).
[04:19] <Mac181> I love my job sometimes. :-P
[04:19] <mindrape> !ot | mac181
[04:19] <TheInternal> woah, porn stars? what?
[04:19] <PressureX> Blah, so I found it, checked it for installation, hit apply, this is what I get now: An error occured, E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/locl - open (11 Resource temporarily inavailable", E: Unable to lock the download directory
[04:20] <atom^x> bs
[04:20] <mcohen> mindrape - it says unknown option -o, I don't think it understood -configure
[04:20] <mindrape> PressureX - close Synaptic if you are running apt-get at the command line.
[04:20] <fearful> mindrape: so how can i get something like that?
[04:20] <mindrape> sudo dpkg --reconfigure perhaps?
[04:20] <PressureX> my terminal is closed
[04:20] <_2> PMT route  show a default route ?   and  /etc/reslov.conf show a usable dns server ?
[04:20] <Mac181> Thanks mindrape, but that was my way of saying goodbye. Try setting the bot to have a !removestick command sometime. Ciao! :)
[04:21] <mcohen> yep
[04:21] <TheInternal> to everyone who's been patient enough to answer my questions thus far; thanks
[04:21] <mindrape> fearful - hold... loading the pic you linked
[04:22] <cjae> _2: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/ sweet
[04:22] <mcohen> mindrape - depends on python2.4-cairo
[04:22] <mcohen> when I try to install it, with apt-get install, the install fails
[04:22] <mindrape> fearful - what part of it do you want to copy? All of it/  It's using a mac-wanna-be theme.  There are tons of those to choose from for gnome and KDE... art.gnome.org
[04:22] <mindrape> fearful - the media player looks like kjofol w an awful skin.
[04:23] <PMT> _2: all my routes are valid, the only DNS server listed in /etc/resolv.conf works, all queries always by host or nslookup succeed, regardless of whether I explicitly specify DNS server.
[04:24] <Jerusalem420> i need to copy from /root/.mozilla/firefox to  ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0/ or symlink or something
[04:24] <Jerusalem420> what to do?
[04:24] <mindrape> mcohen - well it sounds like you are in dependency hell after installing some pkgs from source... it may make sense to apt-get remove some of those pkgs that are having conflict errors then re-install them to see if they can auto resolve...
[04:24] <_2> cjae like i said other than manually editing the menu
[04:25] <mindrape> Jerusalem - cp -R for recursive copy (all files in a dir)
[04:25] <mindrape> Jerusalem once they are in your home dir (~) chown them.
[04:25] <Jerusalem420> k
[04:25] <_2> PMT hmmm  and what exactly fails ?
[04:25] <Jerusalem420> so let me make sure i got this right
[04:25] <mindrape> sudo chown YOU.YOU ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0/
[04:25] <PressureX> Blah, so I found it, checked it for installation, hit apply, this is what I get now: An error occured, E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/locl - open (11 Resource temporarily inavailable", E: Unable to lock the download directory
[04:25] <mindrape> actually its probably YOU:YOU... cant recall
[04:25] <_2> mindrape -R
[04:25] <Jerusalem420> cp -r  /root/.mozilla/firefox  ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0/
[04:25] <mindrape> PressureX - some pkg manager has a lock on the apt database..
[04:26] <fearful> I'm heading out have a good night all
[04:26] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi!
[04:26] <mindrape> Jerusalem420 if you are root yes... I take it you are being naughty and got a rootshell?
[04:26] <PMT> _2: i get could not resolve [...]
[04:26] <Jerusalem420> thats naughty?
[04:26] <_2> Jerusalem420 nope.  root's ~ && $HOME == /root/  so that will fail.
[04:26] <mindrape> yes.  You should never be root
[04:26] <Aperture_Science> Turns out part of the problem was the SLI config. I removed my second video card (for now) and it's working.
[04:26] <mindrape> !root | Jerusalem420
[04:26] <Y-Town> anyone know of an app yet to open and edit .pub files from MS publisher?
[04:27] <PMT> Y-Town: OO.org doesn't do it?
[04:27] <mindrape> Y-Town - openoffice maybe?
[04:27] <Jerusalem420> lol
[04:27] <Y-Town> PMT: mindrape: nope
[04:27] <Jerusalem420> can u explain _2?
[04:27] <PressureX> mindrape - How would I go about fixing the "lock on the apt database"?
[04:27] <PMT> Jerusalem420: if run as root ~ will evaluate to root's homedir
[04:27] <mcohen> mindrape -  I tried --configure python-cairo, get the error "pycentral:pkginstall: not overwriting local files"
[04:27] <mindrape> ~ defines the path to the $HOME directory for the currently logged in user in the session.
[04:28] <Jerusalem420> ah
[04:28] <mindrape> PressureX - kill off any other process that is using it... ps aux and pgup through it.
[04:28] <Jerusalem420> need to change it to /user/.mozilla etc etc
[04:28] <PMT> also change the owner if i understand how you're doing this correctly
[04:28] <_2> Jerusalem420 that's what i mentioned way ^ up there.  you said >>> [root@localhost.~] cp /root/<something> ~/<something>   <<<   that will fail     something and something are the same something
[04:28] <mindrape>  /home/USER/.mozilla/etc
[04:29] <redvamp128> Y-Town:  the only thing I can find is a round a bout way - they say convert it online to a .pdf (5 free conversions) https://createpdf.adobe.com/index.pl  (you have to sign up for it first)
[04:29] <bradly> ldap is terrible!
[04:29] <Jerusalem420> understood
[04:29] <mindrape> bradly - why?
[04:29] <PMT> not arguing, why bradly?
[04:29] <Jerusalem420> i said duh out loud once i realized what i wrote
[04:29] <bradly> it just seems overly complicated
[04:29] <mindrape> bradly - so if you dont understand something it's terrible?
[04:29] <_2> Jerusalem420 also can't   chown $USER    because  the $USER is root  you have to use exact user name as well.
[04:29] <mindrape> that is a wonderful viewpoint... yawn.
[04:30] <bradly> yes
[04:30] <mca1> sovy
[04:30] <Y-Town> redvamp128: thanks.  I was hoping to open and edit this file
[04:30] <bradly> things being more complicate then they need to be is terrible
[04:30] <PMT> ooh, what an interesting response, _2
[04:30] <PMT> www.slashdot.org has address 216.34.181.48
[04:30] <PMT> Host www.slashdot.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[04:30] <PMT> www.slashdot.org has address 216.34.181.48
[04:30] <PMT> Host www.slashdot.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[04:30] <FloodBot2> PMT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:30] <Guest18747> what cmd can i run in terminal to see if my graphics card is enabled?
[04:30] <redvamp128> Y-Town:  once you get it converted then -- Linux does have pdf fully supported
[04:31] <PMT> Teach me to paste two lines. :)
[04:31] <porter1> How do we remove bookmarks from the places menu?
[04:31] <mindrape> Guest18747 - sudo lshw -C graphics (I believe) or sudo lspci -k
[04:31] <Y-Town> redvamp128: thanks   maybe I will have to go that route
[04:31] <_2> PMT you must have bounced the button, it looks like four lines to me...
[04:31] <PMT> _2 - So I saw.
[04:32] <PMT> It was 4.
[04:32] <mindrape> I was wrong... its video not graphics.  :)
[04:32] <bradly> I'm having a tough time groking ldap setup :/
[04:32] <PMT> bradly: how are you trying to do it?
[04:32] <tiberius_> so I'm trying to run dosemu on Ubuntu
[04:32] <mindrape> is that a question tiberius_ ?
[04:32] <bradly> PMT: just setup a group with a few users.
[04:33] <tiberius_> everything about it works, it responds to ctrl-alt-pgdown, it updates the terminal title... but other than that it outputs nothing
[04:33] <porter1> Anyone know?
[04:33] <_2> PMT you can "ping www.slashdot.org"  can't you ?
[04:33] <tiberius_> draws a black screen that doesn't go away until I exit :-P
[04:33] <PMT> bradly: do you have ldap set up already or are you trying to create from scratch
[04:33] <PMT> [diradm is also useful fyi]
[04:33] <PMT> _2 - ping works fine
[04:33] <mindrape> porter1 - this is ubuntu help, not browser help... which browser?  Firefox? Opera? Konqueror? Something else?
[04:33] <jtaji> porter1: open up a file browser, select Places in the left panel, you can delete them there
[04:33] <_2> PMT  man i don't know.   you bested me on that one.
[04:33] <prince_jammys> mindrape: nautilus
[04:34] <bradly> PMT: create from scratch. We have one systems had for production, but I'm trying to setup one for dev testing locally
[04:34] <joelar> anyone know a good guide for learning to host your own site ( i know it's not that hard, but i can't find a good guide for Ubuntu Ibex )?
[04:34] <porter1> Ah ok, I forgot it was also in nautilus
[04:34] <PMT> bradly: slapd or something else?
[04:34] <joelar> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-8.10 left me able to view my site from the outside but not use a browser on site.
[04:34] <bradly> joelar: checkout slicehost's articles
[04:34] <bradly> PMT: yes
[04:34] <Jerusalem420> serious progress thanks to you guys
[04:34] <mindrape> joelar - sudo apt-get install apache2... you will be halfway there.  Then you need to register a domain, setup an A record to point to your IP, find a port that isn't blocked by your ISP to let people into the http daemon, etc, etc, etc.
[04:34] <mcohen> how do I get ubuntu to resolve repositories when I am in text shell in recovery mode?
[04:35] <mcohen> it doesn't seem to resolve them presumably it doesn't have a net connection running
[04:35] <PMT> mcohen: need more internet, yeah
[04:35] <PMT> you can either try starting networkmangler and hoping it does it right or configure it by hand with ifconfig/dhclient/whatever
[04:35] <mcohen> mangler?
[04:35] <PMT> networkmanager - i'm being facetious :)
[04:36] <NobodyHere> I need a way to put the current time in Anchorage on the top panel like my current local time.. but I can't seem to find anything to do it with. Anyone got some quick ideas?
[04:36] <mcohen> ack, command not found
[04:36] <randal> i need some help. i made a ubuntu start up disk on my usb and i was wondering do updates work on it or should i forget about updateing it.
[04:36] <mcohen> how do I do it by hand?
[04:36] <PMT> randal: depends how you do it
[04:36] <PMT> mcohen: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[04:36] <PMT> but ifconfig eth0 or eth1 or eth2 or wlan0 or whatever [IP] up
[04:36] <PMT> e.g. ifconfig eth0 128.220.70.75 [if that's your IP
[04:36] <PMT> that wouldn't give you DNS tho
[04:37] <_2> randal if you mount it on /boot then it should automatically update with the system.
[04:37] <randal> PMT: what do you mean i tried it but i got some error how should i do it
[04:37] <PMT> dhclient eth0/eth1/etc
[04:37] <PMT> randal: is it just a livecd environment or did you install it to there
[04:37] <randal> _2: what do you mean i dont understand
[04:37] <PMT> if the former, you'd need to unpack it on another machine, upgrade it, and repack it
[04:37] <PMT> it's stored in a highly-compressed read-only file that's loaded and unpacked every time you boot the USB key/CD/whatever if the former
[04:38] <randal> PMT:  ITS A LIVE CD ON THE USB IT DOES SAVE SETTINGS ON IT opps sorry capps
[04:38] <_2> randal you say "i made a ubuntu start up disk on my usb" i assume that means you use the usb device to boot the system ?    if so do you mount the usb device on /boot or not ?
[04:38] <PMT> randal: if it saves settings, that's not what i outlined above, upgrade it and be merry
[04:38] <PMT> [probably]
[04:39] <tuxflavoredwaffl> Hi !  What is a good program that burns .avi files to cd-r ?
[04:39] <randal> _2: ok what i did was i put the live cd in the compter then i went system>Administration>Create usb start up disk
[04:39] <mcohen> PMT - success, thanky ou!
[04:39] <_2> tuxflavoredwaffl what format ?
[04:40] <sharef> why does my KDE desktop show the system root directory but gnome shows the normal ~/Desktop??
[04:40] <randal> PMT:  is there s special way to upgrade because i tried it got half way throgh and crashed
[04:40] <Guest18747> how do i know which driver to install for my graphics card?
[04:40] <sharef> same user
[04:40] <PMT> radsy: error reporting would be useful
[04:40] <PMT> e.g. tell me what the error was
[04:40] <randal> PMT:  i meant update
[04:40] <PMT> using ubuntu's pastebin
[04:40] <PMT> randal: well yes. i still want to see the error.
[04:40] <ScottG489> Could someone help me getting hibernate to work?
[04:40] <_2> randal oh,  another "ubuntu nominclature exception"   sorry.
[04:40] <mindrape> !hibernate
[04:40] <tuxflavoredwaffl> _2 i am not sure ?
[04:41] <PMT> ScottG489: graphics card, Ubuntu version and architecture, graphics driver
[04:41] <randal> PMT i kinda didnt copy it dowsn and i cant restart the update because i get another error and it wont let me start package manager
[04:41] <PMT> randal: go to terminal and do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:41] <randal> PMT:  you know what ill reinstall it
[04:41] <randal> PMT: ya thats the error
[04:41] <tuxflavoredwaffl> I would like to burn an avi file to a cd-r and watch it on a dvd player.
[04:41] <josiah> hey wats up
[04:42] <randal> PMT:  but i went to fix it and i just got another error lol
[04:42] <tuxflavoredwaffl> does anyone know of a good program to do that?
[04:42] <randal> _2: lol sorry im confused
[04:42] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: depends on your DVD player
[04:42] <PMT> do you want a VCD, or AVI files on a CD, or a DVD-video?
[04:42] <randal> PMT:  i think i shoud reinstall
[04:42] <sharef> why does my KDE desktop show the system root directory but gnome shows the normal ~/Desktop??
[04:42] <tuxflavoredwaffl> pmt it says it plays divx
[04:42] <mindrape> randal - randal - what error?
[04:43] <PMT> randal: if you want, by all means, but it's unnecessary
[04:43] <randal> PMT:  while it was updateing i was running programs would that effect it
[04:43] <tuxflavoredwaffl> I have a program called avidemux and i think i can change the format .
[04:43] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: so burn AVI files to a data DVD with Divx for the video [or xvid if it does that] and have fun
[04:44] <tuxflavoredwaffl> i just have cd-r's will those work?
[04:44] <mindrape> randal - I ran into a similar issue after an upgrade... had to apt-get remove 2 apps then I could dpkg -configure -a then re-installed them.
[04:45] <randal> mindrape: you know what i think i messed it up bad it only takes 10 min to reinstall
[04:45] <_2> randal sorry.  it's ubuntu's nomenclature that is confused.  they misname things like that all the time.  you clicked "make startup disk"  but the proper name should have been something like "install to usb device"   or some such.      kinda like they called "gnome-terminal" "console"  which is again wrong name for thang.
[04:45] <mindrape> :)
[04:45] <wetchr> does anyone have experience with chroot jails?
[04:45] <mindrape> I was locked in once back in 1997, wetchr... horrible crime against humanity it was.
[04:45] <_2> wetchr only breaking out of them.
[04:45] <randal> _2: so is it ok to update in a live usb
[04:45] <wetchr> lol
[04:46] <wetchr> Im having a hard time makign on for cvs
[04:46] <_2> randal sure if you have enough free space on it.
[04:46] <_2> randal and you didn't use a casper filesystem    "which it probably did by default"
[04:47] <randal> _2:  i think a do and when i was doing update it was halfway thorugh and crashed and then i had big problems could this be called because i was running programs at the same time
[04:47] <randal> _2: whats a casper filesystem
[04:47] <racecar56> yeah
[04:48] <_2> randal compressed filesystem within a file
[04:48] <racecar56> k
[04:48] <matt___> Hey, I'm trying to install ZBrush and I'm getting a weird error, can anyone give me a hand?
[04:48] <matt___> through Wine of course
[04:48] <_2> !casper
[04:48] <_2> well google knows
[04:49] <PMT> casper and cloopfs are how livecds work nowadays
[04:49] <^hashbang^> isn't casper = cramfs or something like that
[04:49] <PMT> casper is the booting mechanism
[04:49] <PMT> cramfs is the filesystem in question
[04:49] <PMT> whatever cloopfs's actual name is
[04:49] <^hashbang^> ah yea... c
[04:49] <randal> _2: im sorry im confused are you telling me to do something?
[04:49]  * _2 head desk
[04:50] <K8L> hi guys ! is there a way to get more than 4 primary partitions on a hard drive ? :/
[04:50] <mcquaid> does anyone know if nvidia's binary has an option for threaded optimization?
[04:50] <wetchr> no
[04:50] <PMT> K8L: not using the normal partition tables
[04:50] <ScottG489> PMT: 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450, Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and the Propriety Drivers (ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver)
[04:50] <PMT> gpt will do it, and most modern systems have fun with that
[04:50] <K8L> ok thanx
[04:50] <PMT> any reason you can't use extended partitions, K8L
[04:50] <matt___> can someone give me a hand with a Wine/terminal related problem
[04:50] <K8L> let's delete the recovery partition
[04:50] <PMT> matt___: sure, but #winehq is your friend
[04:51] <PMT> K8L: IIRC extended doesn't have to be the fourth
[04:51] <mcohen> success gents, thank you all verymuch
[04:51] <matt___> I'm not sure if it's a problem with Wine directly or if it's an Ubuntu problem
[04:51] <PMT> ScottG489: what version of fglrx, latest in the ubuntu nonfree?
[04:51] <PMT> matt___: just tell me what it is please
[04:51] <sifo> hello
[04:51] <tuxflavoredwaffl> what is a good cd burning program?
[04:51] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: cdrecord is nice for ISOs, there are a lot of other burning GUIs
[04:52] <tuxflavoredwaffl> pmt how bout one for burnin .avi files
[04:52] <ScottG489> PMT: im not sure what version of fglrx I have
[04:52] <wetchr> does anyhave have any experience with jailit?  ahving some problems logging in.  It just closes connection automaticly
[04:53] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: doesn't matter which one if it's not a premade CD/DVD image unless you're trying to make your own video or something
[04:53] <PMT> ScottG489: i think dmesg | grep -i fglrx will tell you
[04:53] <PMT> dpkg -s xorg-driver-fglrx may help too
[04:54] <tuxflavoredwaffl> pmt brasero keeps telling me that there is not enough space on the disc, but its 700 meg. and the file is 690.
[04:54] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: there's overhead, and that involves overburning :V
[04:55] <tuxflavoredwaffl> pmt so i should overburn?
[04:55] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: if it says you can, that's probably fine
[04:55] <matt___> PMT: sorry I was over in winehq. Anyway, when I try to install I get this error n the terminal
[04:55] <matt___> err:msi:msi_cabextract FDICopy failed
[04:55] <matt___> err:msi:ACTION_InstallFiles Failed to extract cabinet: L"#Data1.cab"
[04:55] <ScottG489> PMT: http://pastebin.com/d575f22b0
[04:55] <matt___> err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"InstallFinalize" returned 1627
[04:55] <matt___> err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"ExecuteAction" returned 1627
[04:56] <FloodBot2> matt___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:56] <ScottG489> i owned his flood
[04:56] <matt___> my bad, I'm new to IRC
[04:57] <anthony> how do i install my graphics csrd drivers?
[04:57] <mindrape> anthony - nvidia or ati?
[04:57] <Guest51393> how do i install my graphics csrd drivers?
[04:58] <mindrape> !nvidia | anthony
[04:58] <Guest51393> mindrape: nvidia geforce 9500 gt
[04:58] <PMT> matt___: pastebin plz
[04:59] <mindrape> Guest51393 - see previous link.
[04:59] <ripdisk> .
[04:59] <mindrape> ..
[05:00] <ripdisk>  If I install kubuntu inside of windows, how do i access my windows files when booted up through ubuntu
[05:00] <matt___> PMT http://paste.ubuntu.com/116318/
[05:00] <mindrape> !ntfs | ripdisk
[05:00] <ripdisk> thnx
[05:01] <PMT> matt___: looks like wine or the installer to me
[05:01] <PMT> go tell #winehq
[05:02] <mindrape> matt___ what app you trying to install?  I can give it a whirl if you'd like...
[05:02] <ScottG489> PMT: See my pastebin?
[05:02] <PMT> ScottG489: i did.
[05:02] <PMT> I'm debating what I suggest.
[05:02] <PMT> My immediate suggestion is to wonder if launchpad knows anything about this.
[05:02] <matt___> it's ZBrush 3.1
[05:02] <ripdisk> mindrape
[05:03] <ScottG489> PMT: Im looking around /etc/hibernate right now for any leads
[05:03] <ripdisk> the link to the script in that page doesn't work
[05:03] <mindrape> ripdisk - for something that intense I don't imagine WINE will have very good compatability... I'd go w VMware-player...
[05:03] <prince_jammys> I think my graphics drivers aren't set up properly.  When I move windows around, they don't move smoothly, and when the screensaver comes on, it's extremely slow, even though it's an ancient one.  I'm running ubuntu hardy, my window manager is fluxbox, and the video card is: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE.  My kernel is 2.6.24-21-generic, and my xorg.conf is of the old-fashioned (longer) kind.  I don't know
[05:03] <ScottG489> PMT: Lines with a # in front of them are commented out right?
[05:03] <PMT> Yup.
[05:03] <MarkusT> Is there a simple way to set up a L2TP client on Ubuntu? Network-Manager diesn't seem to suport L2TP at all and KVPN does only support L2TP inside IPSec. I just need to connect to a server providing username/password and gateway. All resources on the net require endless configurations and seem to be outdated.
[05:04] <ScottG489> hm ok nvm then
[05:04] <mindrape> prince_jammys - lspci -k         which video driver is in use?
[05:04] <matt___> mindrape other people have been having great luck with it, I just can't seem to get it installed
[05:04] <prince_jammys> mindrape: invalid option (-k)
[05:04] <mindrape> prince_jammys which distro are you on and what version?
[05:04] <prince_jammys> ubuntu hardy
[05:05] <mindrape> hrrmmm... dunno man.  sudo lshw -C video
[05:05] <mindrape> matt___ what command are you using to install it?
[05:05] <prince_jammys> mindrape: configuration: driver=i810_smbus latency=0 module=i2c_i810
[05:05] <prince_jammys> that?
[05:06] <ScottG489> PMT: What is launchpad?
[05:06] <matt___> mindrape I'm navigating to the install folder through the terminal and just typing wine ZBrushInstall.exe
[05:06] <mindrape> yes... prince_jammys, is that the right driver is the next question?  You may need to install the latest and greatest (sometimes the one that ships isn't so great and you can get newer builds in .deb format that you dpkg -i)
[05:06] <mindrape> matt___ bad... that is your problem...
[05:06] <ScottG489> PMT: btw when i enter "sudo hibernate" I get "hibernate:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found."
[05:06] <mindrape> matt____ I recommend you             sudo wine msiexec /i ZBrushInstall.exe
[05:06] <matt___> mindrape I'll give that I try one sec
[05:07] <mindrape> msiexec is usually for installer files (even if they dont have an msi extention I've found it works better)
[05:07] <racecar56> why did ubuntu 6.04 LTS become 6.06 LTS
[05:08] <crdlb> racecar56: because it was delayed 6 weeks
[05:08] <crdlb> so it was released in June (month 6) instead of April (month 4)
[05:08] <matt___> mindrape terminal tells me .wine doesn't belong to me, I'll try again as root, one sec
[05:08] <hxz> 大家好
[05:09] <mindrape> matt___ your perms may be jacked.... ls -alh .wine          as regular user.     who owns it?
[05:09] <hxz> 有说中文的吗？
[05:09] <mindrape> !ch | hxz
[05:09] <syockit> !ch
[05:09] <syockit> !cn
[05:09] <mindrape> !chinese | hxz
[05:09] <mindrape> :P
[05:09] <mindrape> there is it. hah.
[05:09] <DaveWM> what would cause ubuntu to stick during start up?  while the status bar is up it just stops,  but it'll boot if i keep pressing keys on my keyboard like crazy,  does it off cd,  and after installation,  and i had the same issue with xubuntu ?
[05:09] <hxz> Hello
[05:09] <matt___> mindrape it says I do
[05:09] <mindrape> strange.
[05:10] <Guest51393> ok so who really wants to help me get my graphics card to work?
[05:10] <jordantbro> Hello
[05:10] <sifo> what is your vga?
[05:11] <matt___> mindrape I tried it as root, didn't run much of anything
[05:11] <adante> hey folks how dangerous is it to shrink an ext2 root partition nowadays?
[05:12] <Titan8990> adante, always backup
[05:12] <mindrape> matt___ well try this one.. http://slegrand.blogspot.com/2007/12/zbrush-3-working-under-ubuntu-linux.html
[05:12] <adante> Titan8990: yep, but obvious backup and restore is not that trivial, just trying to get an idea for what my chances of success vs pain are if i gave it a go
[05:12] <a8k> I wouldn't think that would be a problem, adante
[05:12] <adante> a8k: ok
[05:13] <matt___> mindrape already seen that, tried it, nothing. That seems to be to get the program itself to run, I can't even get the installer to finish
[05:14] <ScottG489> PMT: well, im going to bed, leave me a message and ill get it in the morning
[05:14] <racecar56> goodbye
[05:18] <jess> hey
[05:18] <mindrape> hi
[05:18] <racecar56> hi
[05:19] <Guest62036> really need help installing graphics driver
[05:19] <jess> nvidia or ati?
[05:19] <Guest62036> jess nvidia geforce 9500 gt
[05:20] <Guest62036> jess hardwarew drivers does not detectit
[05:20] <jess> Guest62036 did you use a envi?
[05:21] <Guest62036> jess probably not
[05:21] <Naisel> hi all
[05:21] <Guest62036> jess not sure what to do
[05:22] <Digital71> i recently upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, and i do not seem to have sound in the 2.6.27-9 kernel. i am somewhat unfamiliar with ubuntu's audio stack - could someone point me in the right direction to fix this?
[05:22] <mindrape> !alsa
[05:23] <Naisel> mindrape what is you problem with alsa
[05:23] <FactTech> !ddns
[05:23] <jess> Guest62036, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:23] <racecar56> !oss
[05:23] <racecar56> lol
[05:23] <mindrape> Naisel - none... that was for Digital71
[05:23] <racecar56> !ossaudio
[05:23] <racecar56> !alsa
[05:23] <racecar56> !Players
[05:23] <racecar56> beep media player?
[05:23] <racecar56> lol
[05:23] <Naisel> ok
[05:23] <racecar56> !codecs
[05:24] <JesperHansen> !cpu
[05:25] <Pyles17> I'm trying to install the iwlwifi driver using the instructions here: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=howto-iwlwifi
[05:25] <Pyles17> I'm having trouble with the download, build and install step. my output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116328/
[05:25] <Naisel> ubottu what's your problem
[05:25] <Titan8990> Pyles17, those drivers a already in the kernel
[05:26] <FactTech> Question: Anyone know how to set up ddns on a local LAN?
[05:26] <mindrape> !dyndns
[05:26] <Naisel> FactTech what you mean about command or what
[05:26] <Pyles17> Titan8990: yeah, but mine isn't working. i thought i would try
[05:26] <mindrape> hrrmm... ubottu are you forgetting things?  I could have sworn you knew about that.
[05:27] <Guest62036> jess so how do i know wich envy to install?
[05:28] <FactTech> Naisel -- I have a machine acting as a shared connection to the internet. It's serving DHCP on a local LAN to do the sharing, but it doesn't resolve machine names on the local LAN. I want it to, and from what I'm reading, DDNS is what I want.
[05:28] <FactTech> Naisel -- So when a new machine gets assigned an IP address via DHCP, it will also get a name entry in the local DNS service.
[05:28] <Titan8990> !bind | facttech
[05:28] <Titan8990> !bind9 | facttech
[05:28] <albion> anyone have plugin for amsn sound?
[05:28] <Guest62036> anyone know how to determine which envy i need to use?
[05:28] <Digital71> mindrape: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.27-9-generic does not seem to exist for 8.10
[05:29] <Titan8990> !envy | Guest62036
[05:29] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- I've seen the name bind9 a few times. Is there any way to get this working using dnsmasq?
[05:29] <mindrape> Digital - try restricted instead of ubuntu in that.
[05:29] <garblesnarky> hlo
[05:29] <mca3> coco
[05:29] <garblesnarky> am i talking
[05:29] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- I'd rather not install new stuff if it's not needed.
[05:29] <Titan8990> FactTech, not sure, I do know that bind are the primary dns servers accross the internet
[05:29] <mindrape> garblesnarky no, you are typing.
[05:29] <garblesnarky> o boy i made it
[05:30] <Digital71> mindrape: bingo--but it's already installed then. moving on to next step
[05:30] <Titan8990> FactTech, what platform is your machine you want to have a nameserver?
[05:30] <FactTech> Titan8990 Xubuntu 8.10. It's using dnsmasq now -- I think that's what's issuing DHCP addresses under the hood.
[05:32] <Titan8990> FactTech, from what I just read, dns will serve and resolve names from your local hosts list
[05:32] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- It almost does what I want now... if I add lines to the /etc/hosts file, it will tell LAN clients the IP address in there. I just want this to work on a dynamic basis instead of static.
[05:32] <Titan8990> FactTech, dnsmasq I mean
[05:32] <Guest62036> after i install evy do i need to run it?
[05:32] <Titan8990> FactTech, dynamic will usually mean a lot of network chatter....
[05:32] <linxuz3r> anyone guys using ntfs-3g
[05:33] <mindrape> FactTech - on your clients why not just setup the DNS entries that the DHCP server has emplaced instead of them asking the DHCP server and it doing DNS for them?
[05:33] <FactTech> mindrape -- I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. You mean edit each machine's /etc/hosts?
[05:34] <bernz> linxuz3r, i'm using it to make the switch from xp to intrepid
[05:34] <mindrape> FactTech - cat /etc/resolv.conf         put in nameserver entries with that actual ISP nameserver...
[05:34] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- There aren't that many local LAN clients, so I don't think the chatter matters. dnsmasq is told not to forward anything for the local domain to the real nameservers.
[05:34] <juniecho> hello, a simple question, what is the simplist way to mount a filesystem with nice gui, in ubuntu intrepid?
[05:34] <mindrape> FactTech - otherwise you need to setup a caching nameserver like squid and it's just a hassle.
[05:35] <FactTech> mindrape -- Well, the real nameservers are my ISP. They don't know the names of local LAN client machines.
[05:35] <bernz> juniecho, it should be automatic in most cases if you are already in the gui shell (gnome)
[05:35] <mindrape> juniecho - there isn't... it will automount any detected filesystems for the most part... otherwise to config files for you.
[05:35] <FactTech> mindrape -- dnsmasq seems to be doing some caching OK already. It just doesn't seem to do dynamic dns.
[05:35] <mindrape> facttech - https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[05:36] <Titan8990> FactTech, you should be able to configure it to forward to real nameserver only if your ns doesn't contain an entry
[05:36] <juniecho> mindrape, bernz, well i mounted one ntfs partiton editing fstab, but it is not showing on the desktop... but when i browse to the folder i mounted the partition i can find all the files, can confirm it is mounted right
[05:36] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- Yes, I think it's doing that now. The clients aren't having any trouble reaching the outside world... just each other.
[05:37] <bernz> juniecho, suppose you insert a removable media (e.g. portable hd) into usb host port; it will shortly pop up an icon on the desktop representing the mounted volume
[05:37] <Titan8990> FactTech, so, it be a small network, why not just map it all out in the servers /etc/hosts?
[05:37] <mindrape> juniecho - so you just want to setup a symlink to it on your desktop?
[05:37] <mindrape> juniecho     cd ~/Desktop       ln -s /mnt/Windows     or something
[05:37] <juniecho> mindrape, i think so, can it be done automatically?
[05:38] <mindrape> juniecho - well if you go to Places menu does it show up?
[05:38] <jaxx2kde> Hi, is there any way I can find out what wireless drivers I am using?
[05:38] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- I build a lot of machines (get them on Freecycle, install Linux, and send them back out). I don't want to have to update the /etc/hosts every time I set up a new one.
[05:38] <mindrape> jaxx2kde - lspci -k         or sudo lshw -C network
[05:38] <Titan8990> juniecho, I believe it will only show on the desktop/places menu if you mount it to soemwhere in /media
[05:38] <bernz> juniecho, if you've already mounted the volume once, and you've put it in your fstab, you can 'mount -a' to ensure it's really mounted, and it will remount at next login
[05:38] <bernz> (and thereafter)
[05:38] <chuckc> i have a 3TB raid5 array that i am setting up LVM on.  with out knowing any better, I used the default PE Size when creating the volume group.  Now i want to change to size to 64MB but the change does seem to take, nor can i delete the volume group.  any advice?
[05:38] <juniecho> well i installed ubuntu via wubi, it shows only my windows partion(drive c), but not my actual data partition(drive d)
[05:38] <jaxx2kde> thanks
[05:38] <juniecho> titan8990, i mounted it to /media/DATA
[05:39] <Titan8990> FactTech, you could use a WINS server but its a old chatty protocol
[05:39] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- I may end up having to do set up static assignments for IP addresses by hostname and then put them all in /etc/hosts, though.
[05:39] <FactTech> mindrape -- Thanks for pointing to this resource. The 8.10 version looks like it may have relevant info.
[05:39] <bernz> your fstab line should feature a type indicator (on account of it being ntfs volume) and i believe 'auto' keyword
[05:39] <juniecho> when i go to /media/DATA, i can see all the files inside... i think it is mounted correctly, but it doesn't add icons to desktop or menu entry to places menu
[05:40] <bernz> oh, i misunderstood your question
[05:40] <juniecho> hehehe
[05:40] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: it says "kernel driver in use: wl"
[05:40] <bernz> then what mindrape suggested is good
[05:40] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: is this the B43 driver? i am using broadcom Bcm4311 card
[05:41] <FactTech> Titan8990, mindrape -- Maybe I'll just have to learn about bind9.
[05:41] <juniecho> bernz//the symbolic link...?
[05:41] <bernz> a link to the volume's mount point (the "root" of the volume)
[05:41] <FactTech> Titan8990, mindrape -- Thanks for the help, though.
[05:41] <bernz> juniecho, yep, the symbolic link
[05:41] <david_> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10 and tried to install Edubuntu for my kids, but partly through it gives me the error    W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Edubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_  "then the package name and version" then at the end it says Hash Sum Mismatch, can someone please help me ?
[05:41] <juniecho> hmm i'm not friendly with console, can it be done via gui?
[05:41] <mindrape> jaxx2kde - pastebin your output from both of those commands and I'll tell you.
[05:41] <mindrape> david_ go into synaptic and setup the repos to not use the CD.
[05:41] <Titan8990> FactTech, DNS is not really dynamic....
[05:42] <Titan8990> FactTech, I don't think dns is going to be what you are looking for at all
[05:42] <david_> ok thank you
[05:42] <innni1> i am trying to add a higher resolution to my xorg.conf
[05:42] <bernz> juniecho, probably, TBH i've as yet not tried that very thing yet
[05:42] <david_> I'll give it a shot
[05:42] <bernz> let's give 'er a go
[05:42] <mindrape> david - in Synaptic go to Settings -> Repositories -> uncheck the cd
[05:42] <FactTech> david_ -- There may be a local cdrom software source you can remove.
[05:43] <juniecho> and one more thing... can i assign windows+e key to nautilus file manager?
[05:43] <david_> mindrape,  seems to be working it picked up where it left of thank you
[05:43] <Digital71> mindrape: any other suggestions?
[05:43] <cjae> how can I remove google earth properly, I have tried almost every ubuntu wiki availiable?
[05:43] <Digital71> mindrape: that was a no-go for me
[05:44] <Digital71> mindrape: i'm thinking i need to modprobe something here, but i don't know what
[05:44] <mindrape> Digital71 - are you the video card guy or wireless guy?
[05:44] <cjae> aside from using locate and deleting every instance of GE
[05:44] <Digital71> mindrape: audio
[05:44] <mindrape> ah.. heh.
[05:44] <Digital71> mindrape: sound stopped working after i started booting to the latest kernel
[05:44] <david_> my kids will be happy to have gcompris for my son and tuxmath for my daughter
[05:44] <mindrape> Digital71 - lspci -k       which driver are you using and what kind of card?
[05:44] <bernz> well, juniecho, the "create a shortcut" concept doesn't seem to have transferred well for people who are used to windows
[05:45] <mindrape> Digital71 - did you apt-get install the kernel modules? and restricted?
[05:45] <dfgas> what is the name of the program or the command to load it for the installer for ubuntu?
[05:45] <Digital71> mindrape: everything seems to have already been installed, did the full alsa reinstall also as suggested
[05:45] <Digital71> mindrape: getting lspci info now
[05:45] <TiZ> Hi. Weird question. When I'm in metacity, Ctrl+Alt+Left kills my X. Ctrl+Alt+Right does not. And they work fine in compiz. Any idea what's up?
[05:45] <bernz> IOW, i can't find an obvious GUI way to create a symlink without actually searching hard
[05:45] <cjae> tried this sudo rm -r /usr/local/google-earthsudo rm /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[05:45] <nomingzi> where can I publish my screenshot on a website temporary ? what is the URL for me to store the picture temporary ?
[05:45] <mindrape> cjae - did you build it from source or dpkg -i it?
[05:46] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: http://pastebin.com/d62483b94
[05:46] <mindrape> cjae - dpkg can remove it if it was a package install
[05:46] <juniecho> bernz: well i successfully created a shortcut, thanks... but there is one more thing, i am trying to assign windows+e short key to bring nautilus file manager, but i think i'm doing something wrong, it didn't work... where should i start
[05:46] <FactTech> david_ -- You know Edubuntu is a full-fledged Ubuntu variant, right? You could probably have just installed the gcompris and tux packages on your existing Ubuntu.
[05:46] <cjae> mindrape: apt
[05:46] <Digital71> mindrape: http://pastebin.com/m47a00cb2
[05:46] <mindrape> cjae - and apt-get remove left remnants about?
[05:46] <Digital71> mindrape:  snd-hda-intel is what i see at a glance
[05:46] <cjae> mindrape: I tried sudo apt-get purge google earth
[05:46] <FactTech> david_ - Not a big deal, but FYI for future reference.
[05:47] <cjae> mindrape: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth#head-c1c56a1bb75c740a3a33269b946d931272b451f6 all the steps in here
[05:47] <mindrape> Digital71 - yes, can you pull up a terminal and type            sudo alsamixer       and make sure all the sound levels are at max?
[05:47] <david_> does anyone here use  the VIA unichrome integrated graphics chipset? I was wondering if anyone successfully got 3D acceleration to work, and how, ive to VIA arena and installed there drivers and the latest openchrome drivers and still no 3D
[05:47] <bernz> juniecho, that's a good q; i would probably check the FAQs at ubuntu HQ, or maybe Websearch for "faq ubuntu windows keys" or something similar
[05:47] <cjae> mindrape: all the steps here http://www.ehow.com/how_2279483_uninstall-google-earth-ubuntu.html
[05:47] <mindrape> cjae - dunno man... odd.  I'd try dpkg -remove if apt-get is being childish and stupid.
[05:48] <Digital71> mindrape: it's all 100%
[05:48] <cjae> mindrape: I think I have to go through with locate and manually delete but will try dpkg first
[05:48] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, I got it working! :3
[05:48] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: http://pastebin.com/m47a00cb2 that has the output from both.. thanks :)
[05:48] <bernz> david_, i'll be trying that eventually (maybe), but the target platform has a dead BIOS at the moment, and i'm awaiting a programmer in the mail
[05:49] <mindrape> jaxx2kde-  looking...
[05:49] <juniecho> bernz// correct me if i'm wrong but i tried compiz settings manager - general options - commands, and then assigned command line 0 to 'nautilus' and run command 0 key to <super>e. is this right?
[05:49] <bernz> david_, from what i've read, the unichrome support is quite far along, but i haven't actually seen it with my own eyes yet  ;-)
[05:49] <chuckc> sdfffjkl
[05:49] <mindrape> jaxx2kde - it appears its loaded the driver and you have an IP address... you cant ping google.com?
[05:50] <david_> my son really wants to play some of the mmorpg's but can't, not with the frame rates that i get
[05:50] <bernz> juniecho, sorry, i'm not acquainted with compiz yet  ;-/
[05:50] <david_> glxgears  is at like 70 or something close
[05:50] <mindrape> david_ you should really consider a Windows partition if you want to do gaming
[05:50] <juniecho> bernz: yeah thanks :)
[05:51] <Digital71> mindrape: any insight?
[05:51] <chuckc> is there a 9.04 room?
[05:51] <Titan8990> david_, some mmorpgs work alright in wine, may need a hardware upgrade though
[05:51] <david_> MS? hahha I'm trying to leave the whole corporate scene
[05:51] <bernz> david_, 70 is pretty respectable, given human vision limitations  :-)
[05:51] <cjae> mindrape: is it safe it delete all the googleearth folders? like the ones in /var /opt and such?
[05:51] <mindrape> Digital71 - can we rule out the obvious that you've ensured the speakers are plugged into the right port?
[05:51] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: oh i'm sorry if i forgot to mention.. the wireless is working fine i was trying to install aircrack and i read that i need to install the B43 drivers for the broadcom card i have. i just wanted to know if i need to install the B43 drivers or i already have them
[05:51] <Digital71> mindrape: it's a laptop
[05:51] <mindrape> cjae - if you want to get rid of it and they are clearly marked as such I don't see why it would hurt.
[05:52] <cjae> mindrape: ok
[05:52] <mindrape> Digital71 - ah.. hah.  Lemme look a lil more.
[05:52] <juniecho> can someone help me with shortcut key mapping? <super>e key combination is actually not working.
[05:52] <david_> I can't even get TUX cart to work its so lsow and choppy cause VIA hasn't released a linux driver yet
[05:52] <bernz> david_, if you still have valid windows licenses, mindrape's suggestion is good.  nothing beats the real target platform ;-)
[05:52] <bernz> (after all, it won't cost you any more, and you've already paid)
[05:53] <david_> yeah, but that is already running on another computer
[05:53] <cjae> mindrape: /var/lib/dpkg/info/googleearth-4.2-data.list is an example, this is safe to del?
[05:53] <david_> Windows is to expensive for me
[05:53] <dfgas> what is the name of the program or the command to load it for the installer for ubuntu?
[05:53] <cjae> mindrape: since dpkg didn't work
[05:53] <mindrape> Digital71 - can you try to modprobe snd-intel8x0m
[05:53] <Digital71> mindrape: one second
[05:54] <bernz> juniecho, because i'm feeling curious, i'm going to read a bit about compiz, and maybe we can figure out your problem (and then maybe karma/god/whatever-you-believe-in-including-nothing will give me some payback so i can get my mobo-usb-hosts-mysteriously-aren't-there problem fixed :-D )
[05:54] <jaxx2kde> mindrape:
[05:54] <mindrape> 'cause I seem to have the same sound card as you and thats what I have.
[05:54] <Digital71> mindrape: seems to have had no effect
[05:54] <juniecho> bernz : thanks hehe
[05:54] <mindrape> jaxx2kde - ah... yes you have them.  You need to put your card in monitor mode, not managed I believe to do sniffing. :)
[05:55] <mindrape> Digital71 - you may need to rmmod the snd-hda-intel ones.
[05:55] <nexxt> Hello i just installed 2.6.29-rc3, but i can get the linux headers to recompile my sound, build fails
[05:55] <mindrape> Digital71 - lspci -k will tell you which ones are actually being used (many could be loaded)
[05:55] <Digital71> mindrape: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[05:55] <david_> Can anyone sugggest a decent video card that just works with no tinkering?
[05:55] <mindrape> Digital71 - sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel
[05:56] <cjae> mindrape: http://pastebin.ca/1332417
[05:56] <nexxt> Hello i just installed 2.6.29-rc3, but i can get the linux headers to recompile my sound, build fails?
[05:56] <mindrape> david_ I've had good success w most nvidia cards... you can check hardware compatability lists on ubuntu.com
[05:56] <Digital71> mindrape: same thing, in use
[05:56] <bernz> hmm, compiz sounds neato :-)
[05:57] <mindrape> Digital71 - ps aux and look for something that could be using it.  There is probably also an lsof way to look for it (lsof = ls of open files)
[05:57] <juniecho> bernz// sorry i fixed it, by changing command line 0 from 'nautilus' to 'nautilus /home/celestial'
[05:57] <nexxt> Hello i just installed 2.6.29-rc3, but i can get the linux kernel headers for 2.6.29-rc3 so that i can  recompile my sound, build fails?
[05:58] <skeletal> guys, i installed my ubuntu in this moment. But, when I go to use NMAP it dosn't work - show message: there aren't open ports. Why?
[05:58] <Titan8990> nexxt, you mena you compiled your own 2.6.29 vanilla kernel?
[05:58] <nexxt> yah hi again Titan
[05:58] <nexxt> Linux zomg 2.6.29-rc3-vanillaice #2 SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 9 23:55:21 EST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:58] <bernz> juniecho, right on, and now you've piqued my curiosity for compiz. thank you :-)
[05:58] <Titan8990> nexxt, kernel headers is a mysterious ubuntu thing. you just use the kernel source which should by symlinked to /usr/src/linux
[05:58] <mindrape> skeletal - probably because you are running a secure boxen?
[05:59] <juniecho> bernz// quiet strange because when i just run 'nautilus' with alt+f2 it automatically opens my home folder, can't figure why it is different with compiz shortcut thing.. :)
[05:59] <mindrape> skeletal - try sudo nmap 192.168.1.0/24
[05:59] <Digital71> mindrape; laptop    7861  0.0  0.0   3236   808 pts/1    S+   23:59   0:00 grep snd-hda-intel
[05:59] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: thanks
[05:59] <Titan8990> nexxt, forget the package manager, the things that you listed should be compiled in your kernel config
[05:59] <nexxt> titan so what should i do
[05:59] <nexxt> i was trying to install ossv4
[05:59] <nexxt> only thing that works for my sound card
[05:59] <Titan8990> nexxt, it should be in the kernel config
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[06:00] <Titan8990> nexxt, device drivers -> sound devices -> oss
[06:00] <Titan8990> nexxt, something like that in make menuconfig
[06:00] <mindrape> Digital71 try to           lsof | grep "snd"
[06:00] <nexxt> Titan its already compiled
[06:00] <nexxt> why cant i just grab the header files
[06:00] <nexxt> and recompile oss
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, ....
[06:01] <mindrape> skeletal - can you pastebin the exact output?  We may need you to install strace then strace nmap to see where the point of failure is.
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, you are not doing things the ubuntu way
[06:01] <TiZ> Hi. Ctrl+Alt+Left is killing my X server when I'm in metacity. Can anyone help me figure out why?
[06:01] <bernz> juniecho, generally, there is a "unix way" for unix-like systems, but each application is free to do their own thing in the end, so often only the "famous commands" (cut/copy/paste, quit, cancel, etc) become "written in stone"  :-D
[06:01] <nexxt> ubuntu didnt werk :p
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, you are doing things the general linux way
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, you use the actual kernel source
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, and you compile the module using make modules_install
[06:02] <nexxt> err but arnt other things i want to compile going to require the kernel headers
[06:02] <nexxt> down the round?
[06:02] <nexxt> road*
[06:02] <Titan8990> nexxt, ubuntu has not created header files for that kernel yet
[06:02] <Titan8990> nexxt, you won't be able to use synaptic for those things
[06:02] <juniecho> hmm so you mean it is natural?
[06:03] <nexxt> so i have to recompile kernel?
[06:03] <mindrape> Digital71 - did it work?
[06:03] <Titan8990> nexxt, it is why ubuntu wikis recommend nt compiling your own kernels
 Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-02-10 03:53 BRST
[06:03] <skeletal> All 1715 scanned ports on 13-1-12-200.provider.com (200.12.1.13) are closed
[06:03] <b3z3rk3r> Does anyone know if all Steam games work now?
[06:03] <Titan8990> nexxt, yes, but gcc is smart and will only recompile what you change
[06:03] <Titan8990> nexxt, unless you do make clean or make mrproper
[06:03] <mindrape> skeletal - then its working... you just aren't running anything as your firewall has them locked down.
[06:03] <Titan8990> nexxt, which some do everytime....
[06:03] <bernz> juniecho, yes, programs are often a reflection of their principal authors' natures, and so they vary in the same way ;-)
 What can I now?
[06:03] <nexxt> hmmm
[06:03] <mindrape> skeletal - if you want you can open something up... go to System -> Administration -> Services and turn something on that will open a network port like SSH or FTP.
[06:04] <juniecho> hmm yeah ;) anyway i got the key working quite happy now :)
[06:04] <JesperHansen> Do you actually have to make a launchpad account to let apport upload its stuff?
[06:04] <mindrape> skeletal - also check iptables -L to make sure you aren't FULLY locked down (despite services running)
[06:04] <bernz> (and no one can explain the deep mysteries of why programmers do certain weird things like choosing their own non-standard key bindings (AKA shortcuts), or capitalize every word in a sentence in comments, etc :-) )
[06:04] <TiZ> Hi. Ctrl+Alt+Left is killing my X server when I'm in metacity. Can anyone help me figure out why?
[06:04] <mindrape> bernz - actually I can explain that...
[06:04] <mindrape> bernz - it's called "ego"
[06:05] <nexxt> Titan : what a headache
[06:05] <Digital71> mindrape: should i kill every process accessing it then?
[06:05] <b3z3rk3r> What is the situation with Steam currently???
[06:05] <kriyas> how to writer shell program in ruby
[06:05] <bernz> mindrape, too right... hmm... you destroyed the drama, the mystery... shame on you!  ;-)
[06:05] <mindrape> Digital71 - yes... if you want to free it up.  Alternatively you could blacklist it in your modprobe config and reboot so it can't load.
[06:05] <mindrape> kriyas try #ruby this is general ubuntu help.
[06:05] <sony> hi
[06:05] <mindrape> kriyas - also #bash has some good tutorials for general shell scripting (ruby can leverage that info)
[06:05] <mindrape> hi sony
[06:06] <juniecho> mindrape, bernz, is it really like that...? :)
[06:06] <bernz> juniecho, if you keep a blog or whatever, your problem and solution are an excellent thing to make public :-)
[06:06] <Digital71> mindrape: success, i've rmmodded it
[06:06] <mindrape> :)
[06:06] <mindrape> Digital71 - now lspci -k and see if the snd_ one I told you to modprobe is actually in use.
[06:06] <mindrape> Digital71 - you may wanna rmmod it then re-modprobe if its confused.  :)
[06:06] <juniecho> hmm yeah, not many people are using linux in south korea so yeah, maybe if i keep some blog people will find out more about this
[06:07] <sony> هل يوجد عرب هنا ؟
[06:07] <bernz> juniecho, unfortunately, yes -- it can sometimes make teamwork difficult, as many programmers are insecure about letting go of their way of doing things ;-) it's hard to convince us you've thought of a better way than we have  ;-)
[06:07] <TiZ> Hi. Ctrl+Alt+Left is killing my X server when I'm in metacity. Can anyone help me figure out why?
[06:07] <juniecho> one day i started linux in my school and showed compiz desktop to friends and they were all like ... 'what the heck is that awesome?'
[06:08] <bernz> like those guys who start optimizing before they've finished designing ;-)
[06:08] <bernz> pure comedy gold
[06:08] <Digital71> mindrape: lspci -k still shows snd-hda-intel, even after rmmoding and modprobing and re rmmoding
[06:09] <juniecho> bernz// why the heck do they start optimizing before they've finished designing?
[06:09] <mindrape> Digital71 - try modprobe -r snd_hda_intel
[06:09] <Titan8990> juniecho, i work with programmers, and they do......
[06:09] <bernz> juniecho, hehe, it sounds like you're setting me up for a joke. but to answer, they are "young" and haven't learned wisdom yet.  seriously.  it sounds silly, like karate kid or whatever, but... they are just too eagere
[06:09] <bernz> eager even
[06:09] <juniecho> bernz// won't it all change when the designing is finished and won't they be forced to re-optimize everything :)
[06:10] <bernz> but that energy is good if channelled in a good direction :-]
[06:10] <bernz> juniecho, i think secretly, that's part of the goal/attraction
[06:10] <TiZ> Hi. Ctrl+Alt+Left is killing my X server when I'm in metacity. Can anyone help me figure out why?
[06:10] <w4g3n3r> Anyone know how to connect to a sonicwall vpn?
[06:10] <bernz> (another chance to rewrite... it's as fun as playing with lego -- but shhh, don't tell anyone i said that ;-)
[06:10] <jwbrase> I've created a bit of a bootloader problem for myself. I've got a dual boot set up: XP/Ubuntu via Wubi. The machine was booting up through the Windows bootloader, which would default to Windows and gave me about a fifteen second time limit to choose Ubuntu. I wanted to change this, so I tried installing Start-up Manager.
[06:10] <mindrape> TiZ - System -> Prefs -> Keyboard shortcuts
[06:10] <Digital71> mindrape: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel does not exist in /proc/modules - yet it still claims to be active in lspci
[06:11] <juniecho> yeah :) well i used ubuntu 8.04 before, and i wiped out the entire partition and started wubi... i think it got more decent :) nice thing
[06:11] <bernz> nice, i don't even know what wubi is... i'm approaching the whole linux thing backwards, kinda (i started with slackware around 97, and now i'm just finally trying ubuntu as of 2 week ago)
[06:12] <bernz> (that is to say, i went for "insane" first, and "morphine-like" last/latest)
[06:12] <racecar56> wubi is to install linux on windows
[06:12] <bernz> cool, that sounds like a good tool
[06:12] <mindrape> Digital71 - lsmod | grep "snd" it show up?
[06:13] <juniecho> bernz: it is for installing ubuntu inside windows... create a virtual disk file instead of dedicated partition. other than that everything is same with just normal ubuntu installation
[06:13] <jwbrase> However, startup manager only affects the GRUB bootloader. So I looked up the Wubi FAQ to figure out what bootloader Wubi used.
[06:13] <bernz> (and in between, i was comatose on windows for a few years)
[06:13] <cjae> mindrape: wow that took a long time but got it all thanks, hooray for rm
[06:13] <mindrape> :)
[06:13] <bernz> juniecho, cool, that's a good description
[06:13]  * cjae kicks box in hopes to hurt apt-get
[06:13] <bernz> like a live install, without the reboot ;-)
[06:14] <mindrape> cjae - next time I'll teach you how to locate then pipe the results to rm..  :o
[06:14] <cjae> mindrape: ok thanks, would be appreicated
[06:14] <Digital71> mindrape: hold on, i'm having some sort of memory leak all a sudden
[06:14] <mindrape> Digital71 - maybe your best bet is to head over to /etc/modprobe.d/ and add an entry to the blacklist for that module, reboot, then modprobe (sorry its so lame)
[06:15] <juniecho> bernz: yeah one more good thing is that it is much more easier to back up ubuntu installation, just boot into windows and copy root.disk file to somewhere else... because it contains entire ubuntu installation, when ubuntu is screwed up for some reason ... just overwrite it with backup copy and it is all reverted like you did some norton ghost thing
[06:15] <jwbrase> Turned out it was the Windows bootloader, and I had to go to Control Panel ->  System -> advanced -> startup and recovery
[06:16] <DeadDrive> Well, this is fun.
[06:16] <bernz> juniecho, oh, that *is* pretty sweet indeed!
[06:16] <racle> hey, i just installed kubuntu, and i can't set 1680x1050 resolution. tryed to configure xorg.conf, but bad results, any help?
[06:17] <racecar56> dang my server cd burning isnt working... well goodbye everyone
[06:17] <Digital71> mindrape: ok, i can handle blacklisting snd-hda-intel. what's my objective afterwards?
[06:17] <racecar56> !welcome | all
[06:17] <mindrape> Digital71 - modprobe the one I told you and cross your fingers...
[06:17] <racecar56> woot it works
[06:17] <DeadDrive> Have a dying HDD, ran disk checker and fixed all the errors, ran it again and came up with none. Now I can't boot to desktop. If I hit esc and try to boot the recovery it gives me errors about not being able to mount /proc and /system or somethingl ike that.
[06:17] <bernz> racle, have you checked if you need special drivers for your hardware, and if they are starting up correctly?
[06:17] <DeadDrive> Looks like I'm going to have to do a fresh install on a new hdd :(
[06:17] <juniecho> jwbrase: did you try checking boot.ini file  :)
[06:17] <racle> bernz, just installed ati's closed source drivers
[06:18] <racle> bernz, and rebooted my pc
[06:18] <bernz> racle, okay, do other "exotic" modes work (higher or lower), but just not that one?
[06:18] <kavitha> #mplayer
[06:18] <racle> bernz. yes, 1600x1200 work, but that is too high resolution
[06:18] <DeadDrive> If I were to copy sda1 to another drive and put that in as sda1 you think it would boot right?
[06:19] <racle> and 1400x1050 works, i am using that now
[06:19] <adante> hi guys where's the normal place to put source packages you want to build for your system?
[06:19] <juniecho> jwbrase: i switched to vista long time ago so i may be incorrect but you can configure windows xp bootloader by editing c:\boot.ini most of the time i think ;)
[06:19] <DeadDrive> Wait, nevermind. I'd have to fix my boot problem first anyway :(
[06:19] <bernz> DeadDrive, the OS would notice that it's a different physical drive, but if you've mirrored it onto a similar drive (same geometry), it should be okay
[06:20] <bernz> (provided the drive is currently completely readable/fixable-readable)
[06:20] <racle> bernz, my current xorg.conf
[06:20] <racle> bernz, my current xorg.conf http://notepad.solonen.arkku.net/?action=lue_muistiinpano&muistiinpano_id=16
[06:20] <DeadDrive> bernz, thanks. Think I want to do a clean install anyway. Throw on 8.10 and that will also get rid of some crap like ie4linux I had to install to apply for a job.
[06:20] <bernz> racle, are you using an LCD/plasma/other-bigscreen, or an actual monitor (and LCD or CRT (doubtful))?
[06:20] <kavitha> where shall i get mplayer which uses SDL library?
[06:20] <juniecho> ah one thing bernz, it is possible to get a device driver in a .deb package?
[06:20] <racle> bernx, TFT
[06:21] <mindrape> juniecho - sure...
[06:21] <racle> bernz, Wiht vga
[06:21] <kavitha> source code
[06:21] <racle> with*
[06:21] <kavitha> mplayer browser plugin
[06:21] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker db for ubuntu gutsy
[06:21]  * mindrape stares at bruenig and contemplates a don't IRC as root rant...
[06:21] <racle> bernz, Benw 21.6" WIDE :P
[06:21] <racle> benq*
[06:22] <DeadDrive> Hmmmm, this is going to be fun. I gave my boot CD to my brother in law and am using kubuntu cd right now.
[06:22] <DeadDrive> I'll have to install kubuntu, burn ubuntu and then reinstall
[06:22] <bernz> racle, and (just in case) -- has this same display worked at that resolution before (say on a different OS or a different distro of linux)?
[06:22]  * DeadDrive laugh
[06:22] <bruenig> mindrape: mind your own business moron
[06:22] <kavitha> #SDL
[06:22] <juniecho> mindrape: when i used ubuntu 8.04, i had to manually compile the driver so every kernel update made me crazy(had to re-compile everything) so i heard, with package installation i don't have to do that anymore. i want to enable wacom tablet driver but i can't find it (i'm using hp tx2000 tablet pc)
[06:22] <mindrape> bruenig - were you born retarded or did you work at it?
[06:22] <racle> bernz, in windows, yeah, linux no, tryed this same kubuntu couple weeks ago
[06:23] <racle> at windows you have to unselect "dont show unsupported screen modes"
[06:23] <DeadDrive> Wow, people still use the root account?
[06:23] <bruenig> mindrape: how many times did you need to be dropped on your head to think that user_name means anything in irc
[06:23] <mindrape> bruenig - well most people dont waste their time setting up identd to give fake root responses...
[06:23] <bernz> racle, okay, well -- x is big and complicated; your config file looks "okay", but very very terse; no mention of special drivers or whatever, which is usually required for "exotic" hardware (like ATI and nVidia accelerated stuff)
[06:23] <bruenig> DeadDrive: yeah people who don't use ubuntu
[06:24] <mindrape> but once again maybe I'm underestimating your tardness...
[06:24] <bernz> racle, i would suggest (painful as it is) reading a tutorial on X11 configuration so you can see how to wedge your special driver in
[06:24] <racle> benz, any idea how i reconfigure that? i just copyed that from internet
[06:24] <regeya> bruenig: believe it or not, on this server, you will get a kickban from channels for having root as your ident
[06:24] <bruenig> mindrape: perhaps if you had ever used something other than your bloated gui garbage, you would recognize the ease of establishing a username
[06:24] <racle> bernz, okay
[06:24] <regeya> Debian would be one of them
[06:24] <bernz> racle, it's often as easy as a single line (well, a few, one each in a few places)
[06:24] <regeya> also, !offtopic
[06:24] <mindrape> bruenig - GUI?  I'm in CLI only... nice try though.
[06:25] <bruenig> mindrape: yeah you sound like it using a shitsro like this
[06:25] <DeadDrive> Guess I need to get to work swapping drives and reinstalling.
[06:25] <bernz> racle, i have, on this laptop which i'm using ATM, a funky video card also; i can see if i can get at my X config, to give you some hints
[06:25] <juniecho> mindrape: one thing is that when i boot into ubuntu i see something about wacom... does it mean ubuntu already has the right driver?
[06:25]  * sykopomp grabs popcorn
[06:25] <sykopomp> Ferrenrock: want some?
[06:25] <mindrape> juniecho - that is just dmesg output... but yes, probably.  lsmod | grep "wacom"
[06:26] <underdog`> I came to see what the commotion was about.
[06:26] <Ferrenrock> sykopomp: why thank you good sir
[06:26] <sykopomp> bruenig: fail. Where's the flamefest? You promised lulz.
[06:26] <racle> bernz, that would be great help
[06:26] <c_nick> when i log into the IRC chat..my friends get my ip address.. say n=nick@123.34.56.78 something like this.. can i change tht
[06:26] <kavitha> #plugin
[06:26] <sykopomp> c_nick: get a hostmask. Go ask in #freenode about it.
[06:26] <juniecho> mindrape, it doesn't display anything
[06:27] <bruenig> embarrassed mindrape is embarrassed
[06:27] <mindrape> oh?  how is that?
[06:27] <swtaarrs> can anyone recommend an mpg editor that can handle 40+GB files? I've tried GOPchop and it doesn't work too well
[06:27] <mindrape> btw bruenig, this isn't 4chan so leave your memes at the door...
[06:27] <bruenig> mindrape: I know, this is linux daycare
[06:27] <juniecho> mindrape: but when ubuntu boots up it says ... i don't remember correctly, but i think it was 'configuring' wacom or something like that
[06:28] <mindrape> juniecho - dmesg | less
[06:28] <sykopomp> mindrape: lololo this channel is over9000 amirite?
[06:28] <bernz> racle, it's worth mentioning also that i had to install a sort of "patch" program for my funky video card, not quite a driver, but more an adjustment to the driver if i recall correctly
[06:28] <bernz> you might need something like that also
[06:28] <racle> bernz, modeline-command cames to screen part?
[06:28] <Ferrenrock> sykopomp: yo dawg, we heard you like #ubuntu, so we turned it into 4chan
[06:28] <juniecho> ...oh it is a lot... do you want to see it?
[06:28] <mindrape> skyopomp - yes, just dont accidentally the whole channel.
[06:28] <racle> found some internet calculator thing :P
[06:29] <sykopomp> mindrape: lolololol Y HALLO THAR
[06:29] <juniecho> mindrape: it is too long, never ending :) how can i show you this
[06:29] <sykopomp> WHAT?! NINE THOUSAND?
[06:29] <bernz> racle, sorry, i'm not sure i understand; can you rephrase your last question?
[06:29] <sykopomp> mindrape: I bet you can't triforce.
[06:29] <mindrape> juniecho - pastebinit... sudo apt-get install :)
[06:29] <G-Blunted> What is the path to the Terminal application??
[06:29] <juniecho> mindrape : sudo apt-get install pastebinit?
[06:29] <mindrape> skyopomp - you would be wrong... sadly I can do that and so much more.
[06:29] <kavitha> where shall i get any video player which uses SDL library?
[06:30] <racle> bernz, at xorg, there is modeline selection, it's inside section ad identifier, devie etc.
[06:30] <juniecho> one problem: dmesg doesn't let me go
[06:30] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, try:  which gnome-terminal
[06:30] <mindrape> kavitha - vlc-plugin-sdl I believe VLC is amazing.
[06:30] <mindrape> juniecho - type q
[06:30] <sykopomp> mindrape: prove it. Triforce now or you're FAIL
[06:30] <bernz> haha, tri-force... reminds me of legend of neil.  true art.
[06:30] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, most likely it is /usr/bin and already in your $PATH
[06:30] <mindrape> juniccho - dmesg | pastebinit         once you got it installed.
[06:30] <sykopomp> megaFAIL
[06:30] <juniecho> mindrape: oh thanks :)
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> sykopomp: YOU CAN'T TRIFORCE IN IRSSI
[06:31] <bruenig> I can swastikaforce
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> oooh
[06:31] <bruenig> but only on 911chan
[06:31] <G-Blunted> i'm trying to set a hotkey to bring up Terminal window when im in X here..
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> let's see it
[06:31] <mindrape> bruenig - when you IRC as root you IRC with Hitler...
[06:31] <G-Blunted> is there already a hotkey for that actually??
[06:31] <sykopomp> I don't use irssi, only command-line nerds use irssi. I use Pidgin for IRC :)
[06:31] <Digital71> mindrape: even with it blacklisted, it's /still/ in lspci.
[06:31] <juniecho> mindrape: i think it is set, what should i do next
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> sykopomp: holla
[06:31] <Digital71> mindrape: however, rmmodding it shows that it is not running - and alsamixer fails
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> seriously
[06:31] <mindrape> Digital71 - it's the undead module... kill it with fire.
[06:31] <Digital71> mindrape: haha, good one
[06:31] <bruenig> mindrape: go back to your obama campaign meetup and leave the channel to the grown ups
[06:31] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, don't think so, the command is:  gnome-terminal
[06:32] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  that came up blank
[06:32] <Ferrenrock> bruenig: go back to your nig
[06:32] <sykopomp> bruenig: at least he's not a MACAIN supporter lololo
[06:32] <mindrape> bruenig - you fail at trolling.
[06:32] <bruenig> olololo
[06:32] <sykopomp> mindrape: he does, it's true
[06:32] <bruenig> good point sykopomp
[06:32] <Titan8990> G-Bleezy, which gnome-terminal did?
[06:32] <racle> bernz, i try restart xorg, be right back
[06:32] <juniecho> !offtopic | bruenig
[06:32] <sykopomp> bruenig: ur a macain suporter, aren't u?
[06:32] <mindrape> !offtopic | bruenig
[06:32] <rdw200169> sykopomp, whoah, haus
[06:32] <bruenig> juniecho: don't use pidgin to irc
[06:32] <Ferrenrock> yeah bruenig, quit being offtopic
[06:32] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  i just typed:   which gnome-terminal  and it came up blank
[06:32] <Digital71> mindrape: i modprobed intel8x0m, but alsamixer failed with it
[06:32] <bernz> racle, okay
[06:32] <bruenig> !hi | mindrape
[06:33] <mindrape> !offtopic > bruenig
[06:33] <Digital71> mindrape: modprobed snd-hda-intel back in, and alsamixer works
[06:33] <Digital71> mindrape: but still no sound
[06:33] <mindrape> yay
[06:33] <sykopomp> !offtopic > bruenig
[06:33] <mindrape> boo
[06:33] <bruenig> mindrape: you should be more worried about the people using pidgin to irc than me, that is the real crime
[06:33] <Ferrenrock> what? I didn't get a private message
[06:33] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, which xterm
[06:33] <juniecho> bruenig: sorry, pidgin it the only client i know for irc :)
[06:33] <G-Blunted> ahh xterm
[06:33] <Ferrenrock> bruenig: I use pidgin to IRC, and I use openoffice to code
[06:33] <G-Blunted> got it
[06:33] <sykopomp> is it true that ubuntu is good for programming java or do I need to buy a license?
[06:33] <mindrape> bruenig - your CLI zealotry has become quite asinine, presumptuous, and tiresome... and I decided to tell you about it.
[06:34] <sykopomp> !offtopic > bruenig
[06:34] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, xterm isn't the same as gome-terminal but it works
[06:34] <Ferrenrock> mindrape: someone had to
[06:34] <bruenig> !compiling > sykopomp
[06:34] <underdog`> I'd like some ass at nine. And ten and eleven. Maybe twelve.
[06:34] <sykopomp> but u don't compile java
[06:34] <kavitha> where shall i get any video player which uses SDL library?
[06:34] <juniecho> mindrape, i installed pastebinit, so how do i ...
[06:34] <mindrape> kavitha - sudo apt-get install VLC
[06:34] <bruenig> well nothing can compare to gnome-terminal, but they can still try, amirite
[06:34] <sykopomp> bruenig: im asking about java not c++
[06:34] <bernz> re racle, any luck?
[06:34] <sykopomp> you don't compile java so that obottu thing doesn't work
[06:35] <mindrape> juniecho - man pastebinit           just pipe stuff to it via the magic of a pipe |
[06:35] <racle> bernz, now i see that 1680x1050, but that screws screen/:
[06:35] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker db for ubuntu gutsy
[06:35] <bruenig> !automatix > sykopomp
[06:35] <dutch> can anyone help me with pulseaudio? it all seems to be working perfectly server-wise, but no sound for some reason...
[06:35] <dutch> fresh intrepid install
[06:35] <sykopomp> bruenig: pls stop spamming me
[06:35] <racle> that takes ~40 pixels cut from bottom of screen
[06:35] <mindrape> !welcome | bruenig
[06:35] <bruenig> !ohmy | sykopomp
[06:35] <sykopomp> bruenig: are all ubuntu users complete jerks like you?
[06:35] <prince_jammys> if someone here has the video card Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE, and is running ubuntu hardy, and has no graphic problems, i'd appreciate if you could paste your xorg.conf
[06:35] <kavitha> mindrape: i need source code
[06:35] <bernz> racle, you mean the screen goes all weird or says "incompatible format" or some similar error?
[06:35] <bruenig> !nickspam | sykopomp
[06:35] <mindrape> kavitha - google
[06:35] <sykopomp> bruenig: ubuntu sounds like a evry bad community, why do you guys are mean?
[06:35] <juniecho> mindrape: hmm then is it like... pastebinit dmesg | less?
[06:36] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker db for ubuntu gutsy
[06:36] <rubydiamond> deb
[06:36] <mindrape> bruenig - http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=you+sir+are+and+idiot
[06:36] <sykopomp> mindrape: thats not nice you dont have to lower urself to his level
[06:36] <sykopomp> mindrape: your a nice ubunter
[06:36] <bruenig> that is really just over the line
[06:36] <bruenig> !ops | mindrape
[06:36] <racle> bernz, no, i mean that screen is "too big" so you cant see yout taskbar well
[06:37] <sykopomp> !ops | bruenig
[06:37]  * regeya facepalm
[06:37] <sykopomp> dont listen to him ops he's only lying
[06:37] <nickrud> all of you just chill out
[06:37] <zoL> quickest/easiet way to format a hdd?
[06:37] <sykopomp> mindrap didnt do anything bad
[06:37] <zoL> i'm a retard
[06:37] <dutch> would anyone be able to help me with some pulseaudio configuration?
[06:38] <bernz> racle, hmm, so you mean parts of the screen (like top and bottom, or sides) and "cut off" (invisible/beyond edge of screen)
[06:38] <G-Blunted> How do you find out what hotkey combinations aren't already binded...or supposed to do something?? I'm mapping new shortcuts and i don't want to overwrite one that's already there! How can i prevent this??
[06:38] <racle> bernz, yeah
[06:38] <Digital71> sykopomp: that guy was helping a lot of people...
[06:39] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, if you are doin it in compiz it will tell you if your hotkeys conflict with another
[06:39] <bernz> racle, hmm... that's tricky... your monitor is supposed to be "smart" and figure out how to contain the whole image, but... sometimes it can't. does your monitor have an "auto-detect" kind of button?
[06:39] <juniecho> mindrape : ohhh yeahhh!!! finally got it, http://pastebin.com/f56c424b3
[06:39] <mindrape_> hello
[06:39] <Madpilot> mindrape_, are you ban dodging now?
[06:39] <bernz> (maybe it can readjust itself after the new mode is set -- sometimes, that's required, even though you've seen the mode before -- at a different refresh rate, perhaps, or some other subtle difference)
[06:40] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  hmm...no compiz...just default setup...what is that? xfce4?
[06:40] <mindrape_> Madpilot: que?
[06:40] <Titan8990> bernz, auto-detect only works over vga, obsolete imo
[06:40] <racle> benrz, yeah, but that didn't help...
[06:40] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, compiz can run on any desktop
[06:40] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, and I am actually running compiz in xfce4
[06:40] <bernz> Titan8990, ah, wasn't aware of that... thanks for the notice
[06:40] <racle> bernz, forgot to say, i got VGA switcher between pc and screen ^^'
[06:40] <unique> is it possible to copy two different files from different locations to another location using 1 single command?
[06:40] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  so without Compiz tho....you're gunna overwrite some hotkeys if you try?
[06:41] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, I actually think that it is enabled by default in ubuntu, just need ccsm to configure it
[06:41] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, I am uncertain on that
[06:41] <G-Blunted> what is ccsm?
[06:41] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, compiz conifg settings manager
[06:41] <nickrud> !ccsm | G-Blunted
[06:41] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, if you are not using the hotkey in the first place, I would think its safe to overwrite
[06:41] <bernz> racle, okay, VGA uses analog, and timing for that is critical, so it *might* be possible that it's interfering; can you remove the switcher and try direct?
[06:41] <firefly2442> besides going into "screen resolution" is there any other way to setup an external projector?
[06:42] <bernz> (though if that were the cause, it should have trouble under windows as well)
[06:42] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  ya but im new to this shit...i don't wanna overwrite a hotkey that might actually be good to use :p
[06:42] <racle> benrz, okay i try that
[06:42] <K`zan> Anyone have an idea on this problem (that !~v1 kernel has been uninstalled and everything to do with it deleted):dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.27.10-v2_2.6.27.10-v2-10.00.Custom_i386.deb (--install):
[06:42] <K`zan>  trying to overwrite `/lib/firmware/emi26/firmware.fw', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.28.4-v1
[06:42] <G-Blunted> actually...maybe that can just be part of me customizing my setup! :)
[06:42] <K`zan> TMIA
[06:43] <juniecho> hello, can someone help me configure my tablet pc?
[06:43] <K`zan> Wonder if I can do a force on it somehow...
[06:43] <G-Blunted> might help if you gave more info juniecho
[06:44] <racle> bernz, nope, didn't work
[06:44] <bernz> racle, http://paste.ubuntu.com/116353/
[06:44] <bernz> racle, take a look at that, and it will show you a way to instruct X to use your special video driver
[06:44] <dixon208> i have a question...
[06:44] <bernz> (you'll need to identify its name first; probably available on the homesite of the place you downloaded it from)
[06:44] <Dustin> hi
[06:44] <bernz> (or Websearch its name)
[06:45] <G-Blunted> ohhh...im running Xubuntu....that not start with gnome-terminal by any chance?
[06:45] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, no it uses xterm :)
[06:45] <G-Blunted> ahh...mystery solved :)
[06:46] <juniecho> G-Blunted: I want to get a .deb package for my tablet driver, i use hp tx2000 tablet pc. long time ago when i used ubuntu 8.04, i had to recompile the driver every kernel update, i really don't want to do that :( btw i saw something about wacom when i booted ubuntu, i don't know whether if the driver is installed right now, or it is inactive, maybe not installed at all :)
[06:46] <nrik> goodmorning
[06:46] <racle> bernz, ty
[06:46] <dixon208> what is this?? -> Open Adept (Kubuntu users), or the Software Sources tool (Ubuntu users), and enable the Recommended/Unsupported Updates (backports) in the "Updates" tab;
[06:47] <G-Blunted> so you wanna update your tablet driver on your tablet pc?
[06:47] <nrik> can you please tell me witch privelegies had to ~/ directory?
[06:47]  * nrik sorry for bad cnolage of english
[06:48] <juniecho> G-Blunted: actually i don't know if the driver is installed at all :) anyway the pen is not working, maybe i don't have the right driver...
[06:48] <Iamthebestuser> hello
[06:48] <nickrud> nrik, 755 for ~
[06:48] <Iamthebestuser> How can i install perl with all the modules ?
[06:48] <Titan8990> juniecho, for my tx1000 I just had to follow this guide: http://www.cartft.com/support/drivers/TFT/Linux_HowTo
[06:48] <G-Blunted> juniecho,  that thing is x64 huh?
[06:49] <nrik> nickrud: thankyou
[06:49] <Iamthebestuser> and i mean all the modules ..
[06:49] <juniecho> G-Blunted : no i'm using x86
[06:49] <Titan8990> juniecho, its not in english but the following the commands should work
[06:50] <bernz> hey, those switching from/combining windows to/with ubuntu, you might want to be able to access ext2fs and ext3fs volumes from windows. check this out: http://www.fs-driver.org/ it's kick-ass
[06:50] <simple|eeepc> hey
[06:50] <juniecho> Titan8990: but isn't it about manually compiling the driver? can't i get a .deb package so that i can avoid re-compiling the driver every kernel update?
[06:50] <Titan8990> bernz, I personally don't trust windows touching my ext drives :)
[06:50] <simple|eeepc> i'm using UBR and netbook-launcher is starting too many apps per click
[06:50] <Titan8990> juniecho, yes, you can
[06:50] <simple|eeepc> ie. i open pidgin once, it starts 8 processes, only one is visible
[06:50] <Titan8990> juniecho, anywhere they compile, just check synaptic for a relevant package
[06:51] <bernz> racle, good luck, i hope you get it solved soon; screen problems are the *worst* and make everything else more difficult to fix :-D
[06:51] <Titan8990> juniecho, if it doesn't exist, follow the guide
[06:51] <simple|eeepc> any reason why that would happen?
[06:51] <heightgao> 没有东西
[06:51] <bernz> Titan8990, hah, i don't blame you
[06:51] <racle> bernz, this dont seem so impossible, try install gentoo from kubuntu livecd :P
[06:51] <Titan8990> racle, lol I walked somone through something similar
[06:51] <kavitha> mindrape: i need source
[06:52] <bernz> racle, hah, that sounds like an exercise for advanced users :-D
[06:52] <Digital71> kavitha: he was banned from the channel
[06:52] <bernz> Titan8990, if it was your mother (or anyone's mother), that's truly a marvellous feat
[06:52] <prince_jammys> if someone here has the video card Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE, and is running ubuntu hardy, and has no graphic problems, i'd appreciate if you could paste your xorg.conf
[06:52] <K`zan> disregard, got it :-)!
[06:52] <dixon208> Open Adept (Kubuntu users), or the Software Sources tool (Ubuntu users), and enable the Recommended/Unsupported Updates (backports) in the "Updates" tab; <- what does that mean??
[06:53] <Titan8990> bernz, lol might have been, random person on irc
[06:53] <kavitha> Digital71:why?
[06:53] <bazhang> !give me a test
[06:53]  * Cosmo gives bazhang :bazhang!n=bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang PRIVMSG #ubuntu :+!give me a test.
[06:53] <bernz> Titan8990, awesome :-)
[06:53] <racle> bernz, i tryed that for couple days, but installed kubuntu at that point where i could log in, but eth0 desnt work or kde doestn work :P
[06:53] <Digital71> kavitha: someone was verbally attacking him, and he retaliated
[06:53] <nrik> i can`t login to gnome session, Err:Out of space or restricted privelegies
[06:53] <bazhang> Cosmo, turn off that script please
[06:53] <simple|eeepc> racle, do you have eth0?
[06:53] <racle> bernz, i modifided my conf, cross your fingers :P
[06:53] <simple|eeepc> ifconfig -> pastebin
[06:53] <nrik> what can i do?
[06:53] <racle> default cable :P
[06:53] <kavitha> Digital71: ok
[06:53] <racle> brb reboot
[06:54] <kavitha> Digital71: can u help me with my issue?
[06:54] <Digital71> kavitha: he said privately that he would return tomorrow if the ban was withdrawn - though i cannot guarantee that, since i am not affiliated with him in any way
[06:54] <Digital71> kavitha: he was actually helping me as well -- but what's your problem?
[06:54] <bernz> racle, i'm using kubuntu for this laptop (in linux mode, but currently i'm in xp controlling my ubuntu mediabox across the room via VNC on LAN), and i have had problems with the wireless manager (it's too smart for it's own good) and a few things, but it was the only distro i tried which could read my laptop's SATA drive early enough to boot from it
[06:55] <phanleson> Noone
[06:55] <racle> didn't work...
[06:55] <bernz> also, i can't explain why, but i just prefer gnome slightly to k
[06:55] <G-Blunted> juniecho, i can only suggest these resources, but i think they will help you:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5469447#post5469447  <---and this one ---> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=60848
[06:55] <bernz> (though i haven't tried many others... ice is nice)
[06:56] <nexxt> Titan is there an option to change "vinillaice" to something else?
[06:56] <Titan8990> bernz, gnome > all    unless you can't handle it then xfce4 > fluxbox > JWM > everything else
[06:56] <ashlessburn> i know this is not a supp ditro for ubuntu but trying to install backtrak as a dual boot having issues with boot i get the selection for ubuntu but not backtrak and there is no guided part
[06:57] <Titan8990> nexxt, you can search make menu config with the / key
[06:57] <kavitha> i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[06:57] <Iamthebestuser> i want to install per with all modules in ubuntu server.. whats the way?? if i do apt-get isntall perl it doesn't install all modules
[06:57] <kavitha> Digital71: i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[06:57] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker deb for ubuntu gutsy
[06:58] <nexxt> Titan heh k i guess next time i should do "make-kpkg clean" and it wont take so long?
[06:58] <bernz> Titan8990, excellent, that'll save me endless searching for a "better" wm :-)
[06:58] <G-Blunted> google it rubydiamond
[06:58] <nexxt> should=shouldnt
[06:58] <rubydiamond> G-Blunted, not finding
[06:58] <ashlessburn> also i know 5-0 is coming out soon for debian will that have any impact on the synaptic for ubuntu servers?
[06:58] <G-Blunted> have you tried?
[06:58] <meshuggah> hello everyone
[06:58] <rubydiamond> G-Blunted, I am unable to find it with google
[06:58] <rubydiamond> G-Blunted, yes
[06:58] <Titan8990> bernz, awesome
[06:59] <bernz> Titan8990, have you any experience with USB problems? (in particular, host controllers being missed at normal detect time (boot, etc))
[06:59] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, ubuntu is always built off of the debian release canditade and not the stable release
[06:59] <Digital71> kavitha: i'm not familiar with SDL -- perhaps you can catch him here tomorrow if he gets unbanned, or alternatively find someone else here that is
[07:00] <cjae> could not create directory /root/.googleearth and /root/.googleearth/Cache
[07:00] <ashlessburn> so based off 5.0 will i have to make any query changes?
[07:00] <Titan8990> Titan8990, no, I am using my own kernel that doesn't use initrd....
[07:00] <G-Blunted> rubydiamond,  you're an idiot or a liar:  http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-musictracker/downloads/list
[07:00] <Titan8990> lol....
[07:00] <G-Blunted> that was the first page that came up on google
[07:00] <bernz> classic!
[07:00] <rubydiamond> G-Blunted, but there is no .deb version
[07:01] <rubydiamond> for gutsy
[07:01] <nexxt> Titan heh k i guess next time i should do "make-kpkg clean" and it wont take so long?
[07:01] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, debian releases will not directly effect you using ubuntu
[07:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, I am not familer with make-kpkg
[07:01] <bernz> Titan8990, do you think i should be looking a udev, or lower level?
[07:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, I have never even considered making a package out of my kernel
[07:01] <nexxt> well how do i save time recompiling kernel
[07:02] <ashlessburn> thank u any advise u can give on  boot part for backtrak,
[07:02] <bernz> nexxt, distributed build system!  :-D
[07:02] <Titan8990> nexxt, you can give make a -j option for multithreadding
[07:02] <Titan8990> nexxt, usually -j #ofcpus+1
[07:02] <kavitha> Digital71: i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[07:02] <nexxt> Titan : you said something about gcc not remaking everything
[07:02] <racle> bernz, working :P
[07:02] <cjae> could not create directory /root/.googleearth and /root/.googleearth/Cache why is this happening now?
[07:02] <Titan8990> Titan8990, its not going to be udev, usb should be loaded well before udev starts
[07:02] <racle> but screen flashes every 10 sek..
[07:02] <Titan8990> ....
[07:03] <bernz> racle, DUDE!  nice :-)
[07:03] <nexxt> but since i did that clean command its taking the same amount of time
[07:03] <ashlessburn> xandros has a posted orum of direct changes bc of debian relase" so sorry for the mulitple ques
[07:03] <Titan8990> i really need to stop doing that
[07:03] <racle> bernz, found working xorg.conf from google :P
[07:03] <bernz> racle, excellent, so google is not completely clogged with useless fake blogs yet  ;-)
[07:04] <racle> bernz, but this screen flashing is annoying :/
[07:04] <prince_jammys> if someone here has the video card Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE, and is running ubuntu hardy or intrepid, and has no graphic problems, i'd appreciate if you could paste your xorg.conf
[07:04] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, what do you mean by boot part? boot partion for backtrack? you can chroot into the backtrack filesystem
[07:04] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, or you can just boot it from a thumb drive
[07:05] <Vinceman> what would be a good program to calculate things with in ubuntu, say the windows maple equivalent?
[07:05] <meshuggah> how can i boot in console in intrepid?
[07:05] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[07:05] <bernz> racle, is it shearing/flicker from effects that are not accelerated, maybe?
[07:05] <DanaG> argh!
[07:05] <Titan8990> nexxt, you should put my name in your replies
[07:05] <DanaG> bug 314600
[07:05] <Titan8990> nexxt, so it is easier for me to see
[07:05] <racle> bernz, dunno :/
[07:05]  * DanaG pokes ubottu with a pointy stick
[07:05] <Titan8990> nexxt, you don't have to make clean everytime, but some do
[07:06] <nexxt> ok
[07:06] <firefly2442> Vinceman: is Maple a math program?
[07:06] <racle> bernz, its fullscreen flashing every 10 sek.
[07:06] <Titan8990> nexxt, I personally I have recompiled my current kernel 10+ times w/o a make clean
[07:06] <bernz> hey, good tip, DanaG, i was about to install fglrx soon
[07:06] <Vinceman> firefly2442 yes, don't you know it?
[07:06] <ashlessburn> i tried that i ither have a bad usb drive the iso didnt install right or im having a grub error
[07:06] <DanaG> It only seems to be this specific laptop model doing it, for some reason.
[07:06] <nexxt> Titan : does yours still say vinillaice?
[07:06] <Titan8990> bernz, say that where?
[07:06] <bernz> racle, whoah, that doesn't sound quite right
[07:06] <Titan8990> nexxt, say that where?
[07:07] <ashlessburn> apologize for my shand
[07:07] <nexxt> Titan : kernel version
[07:07] <Titan8990> nexxt, in uname -r?
[07:07] <Vinceman> firefly2442 you know it right?
[07:07] <nexxt> Titan : yes
[07:07] <Vinceman> firefly2442 how would you call it?
[07:07] <firefly2442> Vinceman: ahh yeah, never used it though, maybe this: http://openwetware.org/wiki/R_Statistics
[07:08] <bernz> racle, perhaps a timing problem (screen refresh rate -- if you found an "american"-style config, it could be geared toward 60 Hz, and you probably use 50 Hz)
[07:08] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker deb for ubuntu gutsy
[07:08] <ashlessburn> im gonna try using a burnable for the backtrak, however if this doesnt work what are some other options for the grub boot part
[07:09] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, you can also use a CD, but if you would like to learn about chroot: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/chroot.html
[07:09] <Titan8990> nexxt, it is a make menuconfig option, let me find it
[07:09] <racle> benrz, its 60
[07:10] <bernz> try changing that to 50 (or do you mean you are using 60 in your household AC mains?)
[07:10] <firefly2442> Vinceman: here's a better link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_(programming_language)
[07:10] <Titan8990> nexxt, general configuration -> local verions - append to kernel release
[07:10] <racle> bernz, its always has been 60 ~
[07:10] <ashlessburn> k i just wanted to know if there where known issues with ubuntu on this aspect for i dived to deep into this problem, cutting into my drinking time a bit lol . if there are no known issues then i should be fine. just never had issues with backtrak 2 or previous versions
[07:10] <nexxt> Titan : thanks
[07:10] <racle> bernz, and i dont think this screen can handdle 50 so well :)
[07:11] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, are you trying to boot from the grub on your HDD instead of making the usb stick bootable?
[07:11] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, also, BT4 beta will be coming out very soon
[07:11] <bernz> racle, sorry, i guessed you are really from Finland, and that Finland has similar electrical as Europe  :->
[07:12] <nexxt> backtrack sucks
[07:12] <kavitha>  i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[07:12] <ashlessburn> yes trying to boot from usb, as a iso many issues so it semes
[07:12] <Titan8990> nexxt, and what do you use for pentesting?
[07:12] <ashlessburn> seems*]
[07:12] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, you may want to join #remote-exploit
[07:12] <ashlessburn> how long before bt4?/
 uname -a
[07:12] <nexxt> OpenBSD northpole 4.4 GENERIC#1021 i386
[07:12] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, not entirely sure, soon I know
[07:12] <Guest84654> ok when  i boot from cd it gives me an error with irq 9. what is it and how can i get it to work?
[07:12] <racle> bernz, i am from finland :P
[07:13] <ashlessburn> is debian still sche for the 14th?
[07:13] <Titan8990> nexxt, thats your kernel?:
[07:13] <bernz> racle, ...but Finland has 60 Hz electrical?  :-]
[07:13] <racle> yah
[07:13] <nexxt> u asked what i pentest from
[07:13] <Titan8990> nexxt, ah
[07:13] <ari_stress> racle: i heard they still DC in the power line?
[07:13] <ari_stress> racle: i heard they still use DC in the power line?
[07:14] <racle> not sure :) prehaps
[07:14] <Digital71> anyone here with a chat log open for 30+ mins willing to dig something up for me?
[07:14] <Decepticon> yes
[07:14] <jaxx2kde> Digital71: that would be me
[07:14] <Decepticon> Digital71 what it is
[07:14] <Titan8990> Digital71, I do, but no timestamps
[07:15] <Vinceman> firefly2442 a link about the letter R?
[07:15] <IdleOne> ashlessburn, #debian or they're website
[07:15] <Digital71> i'll see if jaxx can grab it for me, since he called out first
[07:15] <firefly2442> Vinceman: no, it's a statistical math software package (with a weird name) :)
[07:16] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker deb for ubuntu gutsy
[07:16] <bernz> racle, are you *sure* about the frequency? i'm not trying to be rude or call you a liar, but quite a lot of web sites are suggesting it's 50 Hz...
[07:16] <jaxx2kde> sure.. what are you looking for?
[07:16] <Digital71> jaxx2kde: did you get that?
[07:17] <bernz> ...it might be worth a try. but beware, your monitor could be harmed (i can't be responsible ;-/)
[07:17] <Digital71> jaxx2kde: send me a pm
[07:18] <crog> can someone point me in the right direction? i have a HP dv5130ca laptop i'm running ubuntu on, works great, but when i boot up computer, takes anyhere from 3 to 5 minutes for anything to happen, almost looks like laptop is hung, then screen will come on and can go into bios or boot into ubuntu, and all is well.. does this everytime i boot up?
[07:18] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker deb for ubuntu gutsy
[07:19] <Vinceman> firefly2442
[07:19] <Vinceman> can you do exactly the same as with maple with it? calculate unknown variables with sets of equations etc... ?
[07:19] <meshuggah> how can i boot in console/terminal in ubuntu intrepid?
[07:19] <bernz> crog, it sounds like it's trying to detect some hardware that takes a long time
[07:19] <firefly2442> Vinceman: hmm, dunno sorry, I've never used either R or Maple, you'll have to look into it and see
[07:20] <Vinceman> ok thx
[07:20] <bernz> often, this happens when hardware is queried and a time out constitutes a "not present" reply
[07:20] <G-Blunted> crog, might wanna enter your cmos and look around
[07:20] <IdleOne> rubydiamond, www.getdeb.net/app/pidgin-musictracker first link in google search
[07:20] <crog> yeah, but what? really weird.. and i don't get any errors displayed
[07:20] <rubydiamond> IdleOne, I want it for Gutsy
[07:20] <bernz> crog, you might be able to check your boot log and see about disabling some drivers that aren't functioning anyway to prevent them from trying stuff at startup that isn't going to work
[07:21] <crog> this seems to take place before i can go into cmos, would a boot log still be logged?
[07:21] <bernz> oh, no, that's very unusual
[07:21] <crog> yeah, no kidding
[07:21] <rubydiamond> IdleOne, ??
[07:22] <bernz> in that case, it's the BIOS trying to do the same thing perhaps
[07:22] <bernz> have you changed any hardware in the laptop?  has it always had this delay?
[07:22] <crog> never changed anything in laptop, and no wasn't always this way, started about 2 months ago, driving me crazy
[07:22] <IdleOne> rubydiamond, type apt-cache search music-tracker in terminal see if it comes up if so sudo apt-get install music-tracker
[07:23] <bernz> G-Blunted's suggestion is good; you might be able to configure your BIOS to skip certain things
[07:23] <bernz> (for instance, IDE device auto-detection used to be slow back in the day, so the solution was manually entering your disk geometry and whatnot to bypass autodetection)
[07:24] <crog> i'll recheck bios.. not much available in there to shut off.. hp doesn't give you much choice.. can't reflash bios cause hp uses windows program to flash
[07:25] <G-Blunted> lol
[07:25] <G-Blunted> what does disk geometry look like?
[07:25] <G-Blunted> and what the hell is the difference between a "DISC" and a "DISK"?? I just realized this.....
[07:25] <G-Blunted> oh...DISC isnt real...
[07:25] <FloodBot2> G-Blunted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <G-Blunted> Compact Disk?
[07:25]  * G-Blunted is so confused
[07:25] <MeVsTheVoices> crog: If you have already pulled open the case most HP machines should have a JUMPER
[07:25] <rubydiamond> IdleOne, not it is not coming there
[07:26] <IdleOne> rubydiamond, there does not seem to be a package for gutsy. might want to upgrade your distro and then install that package for hardy
[07:26] <crog> jumper for ?
[07:26] <bernz> disc is round
[07:26] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Disk geometry is simply the layout of data in a disc, on NTFS (eg Windows) its linear, lending its self little speed, on Linux however, its taken much more seriously, allowing faster data retrieval times, and less need for data defragging
[07:26] <bernz> disk is thing
[07:26] <G-Blunted> he's on a laptop
[07:26] <MeVsTheVoices> crog: BIOS
[07:26] <rubydiamond> okay
[07:26] <bernz> disk was once round, but when it stopped being round, 'k' stopped being 'c'
[07:27] <MeVsTheVoices> crog: Pull the Jumper BIOS, there go you jumper settings
[07:27] <G-Blunted> lol
[07:27] <G-Blunted> disk's actually used to be square
[07:27] <crog> oh ok.. i'll have to check that out
[07:27] <G-Blunted> and they are now round
[07:27] <meshuggah> lol
[07:28] <bernz> crog, look for a nearby geek to help you flash a BIOS; for instance, i've just ordered one a week ago, so my friends will now know someone with a hook-up for their fail-safe BIOS flashing needs
[07:28] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Where the hell you getting that from?
[07:28] <bernz> (if you need to flash a BIOS)
[07:28] <gimpscape_> hi. how can I disable nvidia logo which is appears every time when I start X? I have set  Option   "NoLogo" "True" in "Device" section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but it did not help
[07:29] <crog> can't seem to be able to flash with new bios firmware, laptop is running ubuntu, and hp's firware requires windows to flash with, was going to try that
[07:29] <bernz> crog, but as for any other changes... i'm not sure... it doesn't get much lower level than the BIOS
[07:29] <G-Blunted> cause floppy disks are all square...the 5.25 and 3.5....and now "discs" are round and compact!
[07:30] <bernz> crog, before you attempt a flash -- KNOW that it can often crap out, leaving you SOL if you have no other PC on hand
[07:30] <G-Blunted> disc vs. disk
[07:30] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Open a floppy disc up and tell me what you see
[07:30] <bernz> crog, and in that case, be sure to have the geek friend i mentioned above
[07:30] <G-Blunted> MeVsTheVoices,  oh shit..that's a very good call
[07:30] <rww> MeVsTheVoices: magic smoke!
[07:30] <bernz> (to save your bacon when the crappily-written flash upgrader program craps out)
[07:30] <MeVsTheVoices> rww: PANTIE RAID!
[07:31] <crog> thanks alot guys, help was much appreciated, i'll see what i can do with pulling jumper for bios and clearing to factory defaults
[07:31] <Flannel> !offtopic | MeVsTheVoices
[07:31] <MeVsTheVoices> Flannel: NO U!
[07:31] <bernz> crog, good luck
[07:31] <crog> later all
[07:31] <Flannel> MeVsTheVoices: No.
[07:32] <meshuggah> ..
[07:32] <kavitha>  i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[07:33] <Digital7> kavitha..one sec
[07:33] <IdleOne> hey folks Im looking for a client for Ubuntu/gnulinux that I can use to chat with a Windows yahoo im user that supports video and voice. any ideas? this person does not want to have to install another program ( SIP client )
[07:33] <Myrtti> IdleOne: you're out of luck.
[07:33] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles_: insult Flannel
[07:33] <Giggles_> Flannel: Thou art but a saucy folly-fallen maggot-pie
[07:33] <Flannel> IdleOne: Use Ekiga and Netmeeting
[07:34] <IdleOne> Myrtti, yeah that is what I have discovered, Flannel ekiga is not an option they refuse to install anything
[07:34] <Myrtti> IdleOne: you use ekiga
[07:34] <Flannel> IdleOne: Netmeeting is installed by default
[07:34] <Myrtti> IdleOne: they use netmeeting
[07:34] <meshuggah> kavitha : ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/download.html       btw i am not sure...:)
[07:34] <MeVsTheVoices> Wow... that was some weak sauce!
[07:35] <IdleOne> Myrtti, Flannel any links to how I would get the connection setup so I can explain it or atleast show them?
[07:35] <rww> Flannel, Myrtti: What about for Mac? I'm thinking of doing some stuff with Ekiga too.
[07:35] <Flannel> rww: Ekiga + Netmeeting both speak H.323, so whatever the native OSX client for that is.
[07:35] <bernz> MeVsTheVoices, oh man, i *LOVE* weak sauce!  :-D
[07:36] <Myrtti> please keep the offtopic somewhere else
[07:36] <Flannel> bernz: Please don't
[07:36] <MeVsTheVoices> bernz: WTF is requested you part, least kick me and do it right
[07:36] <rww> Flannel: thanks
[07:36] <bernz> "you-should-probably-just-stay-home-and-have-leftovers!"
[07:36] <rww> !ot | MeVsTheVoices, bernz
[07:36] <Myrtti> MeVsTheVoices: did you have ubuntu related problems or questions?
[07:37]  * bernz bows in apology (got carried away)
[07:37] <MeVsTheVoices> Myrtti: I come bearing answers Sensi, now lighten up
[07:37] <shodan45> what's the "right" way to remove older, unused kernels?
[07:37] <Myrtti> shodan45: uninstalling them with package manager
[07:37] <MeVsTheVoices> shodan45: Delete them, then remove them from Grub, assuming thats what you use
[07:38] <kebomix_> my bluetooth send files only ,how to make it receive files ?
[07:38] <shodan45> hmm, so removing them via package manager won't remove them from grub?
[07:38] <bernz> Myrtti, in fact, i do have an ubuntu-related problem: my mobo usb host controllers don't seem to get detected or initialized; i have an expansion card with more USB hosts that DO work.
[07:38] <MeVsTheVoices> shodan45: Keep an extra version behind though, some things go kinky, always have a fallguy
[07:38] <toxicfailtroll> whats emerald? is it like gtk or something?
[07:38] <nickrud> shodan45, yes, they do
[07:38] <Myrtti> kebomix_: install a software that listens to incoming bluetooth filesending
[07:38] <Flannel> shodan45: It will, yes.
[07:38] <olie-user> how can i check which package will get me XML-SemanticDiff ??
[07:38] <Myrtti> shodan45: sure it will remove it from grum
[07:38] <IdleOne> Myrtti, FYI in case you did not know there is a ekiga for windows it is beta but I will try and get them to install it.
[07:38] <Myrtti> grub...
[07:39] <bernz> Myrtti, so i'm trying to figure out where to stat looking at the problem (no kernel messages on plug-in)
[07:39] <kebomix_> Myrtti: what is this software ?
[07:39] <Flannel> IdleOne: They don't need to.  Standards are standards (thats the wonderful thing about them)
[07:39] <dmphotography> Hey, what's the best way to remotely transfer files between Ubuntu and Windows, such as in a remote desktop situation?
[07:39] <IdleOne> Flannel, I understand that but some people are hard headed
[07:39] <MeVsTheVoices> IdleOne: Ekiga uses SIP, no reason you have to use Ekiga with windows, SIP is commonly used for VoIP, so I'm sure theres a better windows client out there
[07:40] <bernz> dmphotography, you could probably set up an FTP server
[07:40] <Flannel> IdleOne: Hard headed... so they won't run netmeeting, but instead will install Ekiga?  What?
[07:40] <Myrtti> kebomix_: install gnome-bluetooth package.
[07:40] <skringla> dmphotography: samba and a windows share folder
[07:40] <MeVsTheVoices> IdleOne: All these will work, no need for klunky Ekiga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software
[07:40] <IdleOne> MeVsTheVoices, the issue is not the client it is the lack of willingness to install anything but yahoo. yahoo is what they know and dont want to change
[07:40] <jadew> hi guys, any idea how to set up the main monitor in a dual monitor setup running on an nvidia card on ubuntu 8.10?
[07:40] <dmphotography> bernz: What about securing the FTP server?
[07:40] <Myrtti> IdleOne: but Windows comes with Netmeeting *PREINSTALLED*
[07:40] <skringla> dmphotography: I have used ftp too, gftp is easy to configure
[07:41] <kebomix_> Myrtti: thanks :D
[07:41] <bernz> dmphotography, well it depends on how you plan to use it -- one-time bulk transfer of stuff, or regular use
[07:41] <MeVsTheVoices> IdleOne: Then don't use Ekiga, unless it has something others don't
[07:41] <IdleOne> Myrtti, they know yahoo. Im dealing with a windows user here who is unflexible
[07:41] <bernz> for regular use, just read a bit about the risks and how to mitigate them, and you'll be fine with most servers... except stay far away from wu-ftpd  :-D
[07:41] <IdleOne> I'd probably be better off driving 500miles and installing it for them
[07:42] <dmphotography> Well, one instance is right now I'm using Hamachi to create a VPN, then I set my FTP to only listen to the VPN IP, but that's on windows pcs and I don't know much about Linux and VPN setups.
[07:42] <kebomix_> is there is any note taking program other than basket , with MS Onenote Feautures ?
[07:42] <Flannel> dmphotography: Use sftp instead (openssh-server will get you a sftp server)
[07:42] <MeVsTheVoices> IdleOne: Yahoo w/ voice seems to work on Ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81895
[07:42] <GaryDarko> Hey does anyone know of a good working program to use my desktop as a cam ? like i want to stream a cam but show my desktop. and i cant seem to find anything yet ^^
[07:42] <bernz> IdleOne, maybe you can convince them that system restore could "undo" any "bad things" they think might happen, and then they'd let you install (though, as already countlessly mentioned, you already have everything you need installed)
[07:42] <MeVsTheVoices> IdleOne: Its crappy, but it works
[07:43] <bernz> dmphotography, with Hamachi, you're pretty safe, as they encrypt all traffic with AES-256 (or so they claim)
[07:43] <shay26m> Hello , i would like to use Ubuntu 8.10 to play American Army (game) , my laptop hardware is : 4 GB RAM , nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400M GS, 10 GB SWAP , but when i load the game its working fine for 10-15 min and than the computer crash (like shutdown) any idea what can be the problem ? (also when i load the game from the terminal i can see some error msg : WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-N
[07:43] <shay26m> ONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0"." maybe this the problem ?
[07:43] <IdleOne> Myrtti, Flannel MeVsTheVoices bernz thanks for the advice folks
[07:43] <dmphotography> Yeah, the biggest thing was leaving port 21 open to my public IP.
[07:43] <bernz> dmphotography, in other words, everything going via them should be encrypted end-to-end
[07:44] <dmphotography> But Hamachi is only for windows.
[07:44] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: This is winidows game?
[07:44] <bernz> dmphotography, there's a Linux client available
[07:44] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: No its not!
[07:44] <dmphotography> Really?
[07:44] <bernz> dmphotography, and it's not too tricky to set up
[07:44] <bernz> and it's free :-)
[07:44] <dmphotography> Well crap, theres my answer.
[07:44] <bernz> well, free-as-in-beer
[07:44] <dmphotography> LOL.
[07:44] <DeadDrive> Well, got the HDD changed out and Kubuntu installed. Was thinking about sticking with Kubuntu until I went to burn ubuntu iso and had to enter a password to mount my other hdd.
[07:44] <dmphotography> Geez, I feel dumb.
[07:44] <bernz> nah
[07:44] <dmphotography> For some reason I assumed it was only Windows.
[07:44] <DeadDrive> I keep all my media on the second HDD and don't want to give my wife admin access to get to our movies/musicc.
[07:44] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: And don't leave port 21 open, stupid ida
[07:45] <GaryDarko> Hey does anyone know of a good working program to use my desktop as a cam ? like i want to stream a cam but show my desktop. and i cant seem to find anything yet ^^
[07:45] <shay26m> MeVsTheVoices: its linux version from this link : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AmericasArmy
[07:45] <bernz> dmphotography, about FTP -- you could always pick a non-standard port
[07:45] <bernz> dmphotography, that's a "weak" approach, but it's a LOT better than nothing
[07:45] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: Ohh okie doke
[07:45] <Flannel> dmphotography: Use sftp instead (which uses ssh) and there are lots of off the shelf ways to secure ssh against bruteforce (such as DenyHosts)
[07:46] <dmphotography> Yeah, I know some hackers and a port scanner will pick it up if it's open.
[07:46] <bernz> dmphotography, by "weak", i mean it only adds a very minor level of security; determined intruders will be completely unphased, but it's enough to stop "dumb" bots and the like
[07:46] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: K, first, open the game in a terminal, see what it spits out at you when it crashes
[07:46] <bastid_raZor> deadbattery; you need read execute for everyone on that drive.. she'll be able to look at the stuff but not change anything. if she is another user or even your user.. r-x for directories and r-- for files
[07:46] <bastid_raZor> DeadDrive; ^^
[07:46] <DeadDrive> Ya, didn't think about messing with the permissions
[07:47] <dmphotography> If I can get Hamachi to work, then I'll just use it because it's by far the easiest.
[07:47] <Myrtti> kebomix_: the app you're looking for in particular is gnome-obex-server, but you should be able to launch it from the applications menu as well.
[07:47] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: 21 is the default to be bruteforced, port scanning takes time, and theres alot of computers, so why bother
[07:47] <bernz> dmphotography, yeah, it's surprisingly good quality software :-)
[07:47] <DeadDrive> burning speed seems a lot better with kde
[07:47] <dmphotography> Yeah, I'm currently using it and I'm strongly considering converting my server from XP to Ubuntu.
[07:47] <MeVsTheVoices> DeadDrive: Its all in your head, both frontends use the same backend!
[07:47] <dmphotography> I'm just covering the bases right now.
[07:48] <bastid_raZor> DeadDrive; i use gnome and k3b for burning things.. you can use kde apps in gnome just fine
[07:48] <MeVsTheVoices> DeadDrive: Kinky huh!
[07:48] <dmphotography> I got the remote desktop figured out.
[07:48] <DeadDrive> ya :) Mev, I'm also burning a cd iso and not dvd :)
[07:48] <bernz> dmphotography, i'll be doing that shortly, once i finish setting up my desktop (and learning all the quirks)
[07:48] <MeVsTheVoices> DeadDrive: And... its still the same backend!
[07:48] <shay26m> MeVsTheVoices: not just the game crash , its the all computer , its like i made shutdown
[07:48] <bastid_raZor> DeadDrive; tab completion is your friend.
[07:48] <dmphotography> Yeah, Apache is definitely far more Linux friendly than Windows.
[07:48] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: Whoa.
[07:48] <bernz> dmphotography, it's like the good old days of reading manuals and actually learning (my brain is rusty after several years of mostly-windows, due to work)
[07:48] <DeadDrive> I know, the burning is faster because it is a cd and not dvd
[07:49] <dmphotography> It's amazing how much easier it is to configure linux once you get the hang of Linux.
[07:49] <dmphotography> Reading manuals?  Haha.
[07:49] <dmphotography> What's that?
[07:49] <DeadDrive> Ya, the only thing I miss about windows is Zmud running better :)
[07:49] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: I dunno then, your computer got good kewling?
[07:49] <DeadDrive> Haven't found a linux native client that compares
[07:50] <dmphotography> As far as resource monitors to see the performance and demand things like in Windows, how do you do that in Linux?
[07:50] <shay26m> MeVsTheVoices: how can i check ? (i am new 2 ubuntu)
[07:50] <bastid_raZor> DeadDrive; tinyfuge
[07:50] <MeVsTheVoices> DeadDrive: I miss tversity, mediatomb is too pissy with me
[07:50] <bernz> (most modern video cards (and probably much other hardware) have internal temp watchdogs that can cause an instant power-down if necessary to avoid a fire)
[07:50] <DeadDrive> a faster computer would help my burning speeds too
[07:50] <bernz> dmphotography, try a command-line app called 'top'
[07:50] <bernz> open a command window
[07:51] <DeadDrive> <---p3 running at 448mhz with 640 megs of ram
[07:51] <dmphotography> Alright.
[07:51] <bernz> and just type 'top' and you're off to the races
[07:51] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: Thats a good question, before, when you played games in windows and such, any such problems alike?
[07:51] <bernz> there's probably a much-prettier GUI equivalent, but i can't say off-hand
[07:51] <shay26m> no
[07:51] <shay26m> MeVsTheVoices: no
[07:51] <dmphotography> Oh crap. . .  lol, yeah no GUI.
[07:51] <dmphotography> This is painful.
[07:52] <Titan8990> dmphotography, CLI is for real men
[07:52] <Shakedown> So I'm trying to remove my current ATI driver before I install the new one, and I'm trying to do this through Synaptic.  How do I know I'm deleting the correct thing? I think it's "xorg-driver-fglrx : Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerators." Is this the right one?
[07:52] <bernz> heh, it's not long before people forced to use a command line become 10 times as efficient as their GUI counterparts
[07:52] <bernz> ...and then they discover IRC
[07:52] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: Then no, prolly not that. Does you commputer die, or do you get a logo ect.. when it kerflunks?
[07:52] <DeadDrive> That's not true Titan, there are things where GUI is better.
[07:52] <bernz> ...and they become 50% as productive as originally
[07:52] <dmphotography> CLI?
[07:52] <Titan8990> bernz, lol
[07:52] <DeadDrive> dmphot, command line interface
[07:52] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: Command line Interface
[07:53] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, agreed, I would be lost without phpmyadmin for mysql
[07:53] <bernz> Titan8990, it's funny because it's true :-]
[07:53] <dmphotography> Well there's a reason no one uses MS-DOS anymore . . .
[07:53] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, but for the most part, it is true
[07:53] <shay26m> MeVsTheVoices: its die, i have to press the poweron button
[07:53] <dmphotography> GUI's make things much easier.
[07:53] <DeadDrive> because DOS sucked compared to linux :)
[07:53] <dmphotography> Like DNS servers do.
[07:53] <Titan8990> dmphotography, that is an opinion
[07:54] <dmphotography> It's kind of the same concept of domain names verses IPs.
[07:54] <Titan8990> dmphotography, no its not....
[07:54] <dmphotography> Haha.
[07:54] <Titan8990> dmphotography, ip address don't tab complete.....
[07:54] <DeadDrive> I think the internet would be a much better place if DNS servers didn't make using it so much easier
[07:54] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: Then I'ma guess hardware, signup to Ubuntu.com and paste this, hope someone has the same
[07:54] <dmphotography> Well, true (I just learned that trick this morning.)
[07:55] <bernz> 90% of DNS server bandwidth is used on spam/scam-related traffic anyway, no?  :-)
[07:55] <DeadDrive> Kind of like Winnuke took all the fun out of IRC
[07:55] <bernz> it might just be better to advertise your static IP  :-)
[07:55] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: A strait up deading is a hard thing to figure coming with an OS change
[07:55] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: Sorry :-(
[07:55] <dmphotography> Well with so many dynamic IPs, Domain names simplify that feat.
[07:56] <DeadDrive> There's no place like 127.0.0.1
[07:56] <dmphotography> I have a dynamic IP and that would be a pain to have to inform my visitors of the new IP every time it changes.
[07:56] <bernz> shay26m, recently, the fan on my video card got "stuck" and wouldn't turn any more; shortly thereafter, the PC suddenly shut down, and i discovered the dead fan
[07:56] <Titan8990> dmphotography, but I don't aggree that GUIs simplify
[07:56] <DeadDrive> For some things GUI is a pain in the rear
[07:56] <bernz> shay26m, just after your PC shuts itself off suddenly, feel the video card (careful!)
[07:56] <shay26m> bernz: its laptop
[07:57] <DeadDrive> like diging through synaptic is so much harder than typing sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install blah
[07:57] <MeVsTheVoices> bernz: I used to have an old emachine that died 32 minutes in, come hell or high water, was fun trying to get a full phase of Diablo 2 in that time
[07:57] <Shakedown> Is "ATI binary X.org driver" the proprietary ATI driver? I'm looking in Add/Remove Applications
[07:57] <dmphotography> Yeah, things like a resource monitor displaying RAM in bytes is a pain to translate in your head unless you just love numbers.
[07:57] <bernz> shay26m, oh, those are quite likely to have heat problems -- try placing your laptop on a towel, then towel on an icepack (like the kind for picnic coolers)
[07:57] <shay26m> bernz: does Ubuntu have some monitor software so its can write core heat logs etc .. ?
[07:57] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, also you can usually do apt-cache search faster than you can even open synaptic :)
[07:57]  * DeadDrive agrees with Titan
[07:58] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: Or if your poor like me, get a couple pieces of plyboard and use a bathroom fan
[07:58] <shay26m> MeVsTheVoices: :)
[07:58] <bernz> shay26m, gnu linux in general has access to the most intricate details, but i don't know offhand the name of an app/package for you
[07:58] <Titan8990> shay26m, lm-sensors, doesn't support all hardware
[07:58] <dmphotography> Is there some quick way to address someone in IRC, such as the dmphotography: thing?
[07:58] <dmphotography> I'm new to IRC too.
[07:58] <Titan8990> !lm-sensors | shay26m
[07:58] <MeVsTheVoices> bernz: Ohh hang on I know it, 2 mins
[07:58] <DeadDrive> Strange, when I had gnome version installed k3b would auto-eject the disc and make an annoying sound. It finished and didn't eject the tray.
[07:58] <Titan8990> dmphotography, you can tab complete names just like commands in the terminal
[07:59] <G-Blunted> anyone know how to change temperature shutoff limits on laptops??
[07:59] <dmphotography> So then you all do actually type the names and add the ":" to it?
[07:59] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Don't
[07:59]  * DeadDrive prepares himself for the ugliness that is out of the box ubuntu. 
[07:59] <shay26m> bernz: when i load the game from the terminal i can see some error msg : WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0"." maybe this the problem ?
[07:59] <bernz> dmphotography, in some IRC clients, the 'tab' key is used for auto-completion; a partial (ambiguous) completion usually lists the partial matches
[07:59] <bernz> (then you provide more characters, and try again with 'tab')
[07:59] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: If its shutting off, theres a reason
[07:59] <bastid_raZor> DeadDrive; those are options under preferences. you can change them
[07:59] <skringla> dmphotography: I use pidgeon and if you click on the name it is highlighted and if you midle click in the text box it pastes the name
[08:00] <dmphotography> Gotcha.
[08:00] <dmphotography> Very nice.
[08:00] <bernz> dmphotography, the client i'm using right now (pidgin -- stop barfing, people, it came pre-installed, and i don't look a gift horse in the mouth) adds the colon automagically
[08:00] <dmphotography> I'm currently in Windows using mIRC, but I use pidgeon on my laptop.
[08:00] <Shakedown> So what's going to happen when I uninstall my ATI driver (before I install the new one)?
[08:00] <MeVsTheVoices> shay26m: try `sudo apt-get install lm-sensors; sensors` <65c is healthy for most
[08:01] <kirt> xchat is just an apt-get away. :-)
[08:01] <bastid_raZor> Shakedown; nothing will happen till you restart X
[08:01] <MeVsTheVoices> Shakedown: Cntrl+Alt+backspace
[08:01] <Shakedown> bastid_raZor: So I shouldn't restart X until I install the new driver, right?
[08:01] <DeadDrive> Ok, time to format and install Ubuntu 8.10
[08:01]  * DeadDrive waves
[08:01] <G-Blunted> MeVsTheVoices, you know how don't you....
[08:01] <Titan8990> dmphotography, use xchat on all platforms
[08:01] <Titan8990> dmphotography, there is nothing better
[08:01] <kirt> Titan8990: Agreed. And tab completion works!
[08:01] <bastid_raZor> Shakedown; either way.. it will be easier on you if you do but doesn't really matter.
[08:01] <dmphotography> Titan8990: Alright.
[08:01] <skringla> Shakedown: not much in my experience as long except the graphics will not be avalible
[08:01] <bernz> it's useful to remember that X is just another application running on a mostly invisible/text-based OS; that's why you restart X after config changes
[08:01] <G-Blunted> Titan8990, mIRC might be better
[08:02] <DeadDrive> mIRC's good for picking up bugs.
[08:02] <bernz> Titan8990, i shall now install xchat... :-)
[08:02] <dmphotography> Yeah, mIRC isn't bad.
[08:02] <DeadDrive> I can't really talk, haven't used it for years.
[08:02] <G-Blunted> no that's windows
[08:02] <Shakedown> So you guys are saying that everything will be okay - just uninstall my current driver and install the new one, then restart X?
[08:02] <DeadDrive> I just remember the /ctcp blah do :)
[08:02] <DanaG> Should I mark this bug confirmed?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[08:02] <dmphotography> The tab complete works too now that I know about it in here.
[08:02] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Yes, if theres a problem that wasn't there before, check if your sensor got buggled around, the most common cause of random shutdown is CPU overheat because of the sensor being too close
[08:03] <DanaG> watch out: ctcp in this channel earns an auto-ban.
[08:03] <DanaG> !ctcp
[08:03] <DanaG> you'd think they'd have a factoid about that.
[08:03] <G-Blunted> MeVsTheVoices,  that makes sense
[08:03] <skringla> Shakedown: did you try just reinstalling the old driver?  I always have to do that a couple of times to get it to work
[08:03]  * bernz loves installing apps via remote desktop :-)
[08:03] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: You can change the shutdown temp on most, thats secret do'
[08:03] <G-Blunted> MeVsTheVoices, that's secret what?
[08:03]  * MeVsTheVoices loves ssh in general
[08:03] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Though
[08:03] <Shakedown> skringla: I'm not having problems, I haven't done anything yet. I just wanted to know what to expect before I tried something.
[08:03] <DanaG> Should I mark that bug as confirmed?  Seems confirmed enough to me!
[08:03] <bernz> Shakedown, always, i mean ALWAYS save a copy of your previously-working config file (xorg.conf usually) first  ;-)
[08:03] <kirt> Do you guys use envyng for ATI drivers stuff? It works great for Nvidia drivers...
[08:03] <G-Blunted> aw man
[08:04] <dmphotography> Wow, so Ubuntu uses VERY little system resources compared to a striped down Windows huh?
[08:04] <MeVsTheVoices> Shakedown: bernz has good advice
[08:04] <bernz> (so you can restore from a text-mode terminal, and get it back)
[08:04] <DeadDrive> I thought all Windows did was use resources.
[08:04] <dmphotography> I have XP Performance Edition on my server.
[08:04] <G-Blunted> MeVsTheVoices, i looked in cmos and it wasn't there...you think i need a special app that taps in to the hardware more or something? can you give me a hint? :)
[08:04] <DanaG> XP Performance Edition?  wtu?
[08:04] <kirt> dmphotography: Naw. About the same or a little more than a lean XP.
[08:04] <skringla> kirt: I have an ATI radeon express 1250, no problems
[08:04] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: A truely gutted windows doesn't sue too much more
[08:04] <dmphotography> DeadDrive:  LOL.
[08:04] <Shakedown> bernz: Will isntalling the new ATI driver invalidate my xorg.conf file?
[08:04] <shay26m> bernz: when i load the game from the terminal i can see some error msg : WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0"." maybe this the problem ?
[08:04] <DanaG> argh.
[08:05] <Titan8990> Shakedown, it should only change the driver section
[08:05] <Titan8990> Shakedown, you can make a backup first
[08:05] <comicsans> # Appears as ANNA
[08:05] <dmphotography> DanaG: It's a modified version of XP that someone strips all the bells and whistles out of it.
[08:05] <dmphotography> You can find them on torrent sites.
[08:05] <MeVsTheVoices> OO I wanna watch Blade now!
[08:05] <Shakedown> Titan8990: Yeah I can back-up xorg.conf.  What if I install the new driver and I decide I want to return to my current driver? How can I do that?
[08:06] <skringla> DanaG: TinyXP is nice too
[08:06] <MeVsTheVoices> Shakedown: cp oldie_xorg new_xorg
[08:06] <dmphotography> DeadDrive: Yeah, Vista's primary purpose is to use resources.
[08:06] <dmphotography> It automatically consumes 1GB just running idle.
[08:06] <bernz> Shakedown, no, think about it like this: you can have a ton of different video cards and drivers on your system all at the same time; the xorg.conf tells X about the ones you want it to care about, and you also tell it which one of those to use by default... so, if you first copy 'xorg.conf' to 'xorg.conf.old', then you can edit your xorg.conf to tell X to use different drivers when it next starts; then restart it, and it reads the newly-edited xorg.conf and 
[08:07] <DanaG> The only major thing I don't like about Vista: it can't ever keep its grubby little paws off the hard drive.
[08:07] <Shakedown> bernz: So I don't actually need to delete my current driver? The ATI driver installation notes suggest I do.
[08:07] <DanaG> it reads or writes... something... every 1 second.  Even when on battery.
[08:07] <bernz> if your changes cause problems, you copy your 'xorg.conf.old' over top of 'xorg.conf', and you're "safe" again
[08:07] <hateball> !windows | DanaG
[08:07] <Titan8990> Shakedown, you restore your old xorg.conf
[08:07] <DanaG> Anyway, anyone answer my question:
[08:07] <bernz> Shakedown, in general, leaving unused drivers on a system is harmless, except for the disk space they take up (which is usually small)
[08:07] <dmphotography> DanaG: Yeah, I've noticed that.  That's why they're developing a replacement, aka Windows 7.
[08:07] <DanaG> Is one confirmation enough for me to mark a bug confirmed?
[08:07] <Titan8990> Shakedown, xorg.conf tells xserver which driver to load
[08:07] <bastid_raZor> DanaG; that is its attempt to be like ext3 and not need defrag'ing once a week.
[08:08] <jla> I'm trying Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiion 1200 (1.2Ghz 256MiB). I know it's not the recommended spec, but it's far from the low end. Everything is really slow. Accessing menus. programs starting (like yelp), synaptic searches. it all crawls. Where should I look to speed things up?
[08:08] <cjae> I know please help is bad here but I have been trying for hours, and have quite a bit of effort trying to figured out on own http://pastebin.ca/1332550
[08:08] <bernz> DanaG, 3 is a magic number
[08:08] <dmphotography> Instead of fixing Vista, they've decided to just scrap it and start over.
[08:08] <Shakedown> Hm...so it's safe to not remove my current driver? Sounds good to me!
[08:08] <dmphotography> If it wasn't for Photoshop and Lightroom, I'd convert my primary computer to Linux.
[08:08] <bernz> bernz, one can always be a fluke or mistake in life; i usually say "try it twice" with notable exceptions like murder, etc
[08:08] <MeVsTheVoices> jla: To a different disto of linux, Ubuntu is not made for low system requirement, atleast use LXDE or Xubuntu
[08:09] <skringla> any one find a way to fix blue tooth obex in 8.10?
[08:09] <bernz> hahah
[08:09] <dmphotography> But there's just some thigns Windows still does better.
[08:09] <SPF> jla: installing the videocard drivers
[08:09] <skringla> The dbus problem
[08:09] <Titan8990> jla, I would recommend fluxbox
[08:09] <bastid_raZor> dmphotography; gimp is a good replacement for photoshop
[08:09] <bernz> now i'm addressing myself too... time for sleep... that last comment was directed to DanaG
[08:09] <Titan8990> jla, i use every bit of my 512mb in xfce
[08:09] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: GIMP beats the shit out'a Photoshop, well, not really, mroe skillful, but is easily as good, just longer learning curve
[08:09] <Titan8990> jla, couldn't imagine gnome
[08:09] <Flannel> MeVsTheVoices: Please watch your language.
[08:09] <dmphotography> Yeah, but I use Lightroom a WHOLE lot, so that's my drawback.
[08:10] <jla> MeVsTheVoices: I'm missing the recommended spec by 128 MiB ram. Is that really what is making things go so slow?
[08:10] <dmphotography> I was looking at GIMP earlier and it looked nice.
[08:10] <co_sweet-kesepia> hMMM,,,,,,,,,,
[08:10] <kirt> jla: Try xubuntu until you get another stick of RAM. 384 MB is a practical MINIMUM for ubuntu.
[08:10] <bernz> dmphotography, as for photoshop, you'll find the gimp to probably be a more-than-adequate substitute, unless you are a super hardcore-user
[08:10] <MeVsTheVoices> Flannel: Do you really have nothing better to do than whine at my cusslings?
[08:10] <red-rum> is there a way to *easily* migrate from an 80 gb IDE drive to a 500 gb SATA?
[08:10] <dmphotography> I do a lot of working with Layers and photo retouching.
[08:10] <kirt> dmphotography: I know Photoshop runs just find in crossover. Some of the graphics pros at work use it that way for a living.
[08:10] <bernz> red-rum, i would be one of those excellent SATA/IDE/mini-IDE to USB 2.0 adapter dealies
[08:10] <bastid_raZor> red-rum; keep both?
[08:10] <bernz> (about $25)
[08:10] <Flannel> MeVsTheVoices: If you just follow the rules in the first place, I won't have to meddle.
[08:10] <skringla> red-rum: use a ide to usb
[08:10] <jla> SPF: I keep trying to access System > Administration > Hardware Drivers. After a while of it scanning it disappears
[08:11] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: It does the same, plus you get the satisfaction of not stealing software
[08:11] <dmphotography> Well I can't figure out how to install it in Linux.
[08:11] <bernz> and then just mount the 80 GB on your system and copy away
[08:11] <bastid_raZor> red-rum; i have a 320GB IDE and a 1.5TB SATA both working fine
[08:11] <dmphotography> I was going to test it earlier and I can't launch the installer with WINE.
[08:11] <MeVsTheVoices> Flannel: What says you have to meddle?
[08:11] <Titan8990> !gimp | dmphotography
[08:11] <Titan8990> dmphotography, sudo apt-get install gimp
[08:11] <red-rum> well, it isn't an issue of copying.... I'd like to maintain the ubuntu system I've built
[08:12] <dmphotography> I know, I know.  Adobe Lightroom though. . . .
[08:12] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: CS1 is the only platinum ranked version of Photoshop WINE
[08:12] <Titan8990> dmphotography, ah...
[08:12] <red-rum> ie, configuration, programs etc.
[08:12] <bernz> dmphotography, i'm unfamiliar with lightroom (not a photographer myself)
[08:12] <dmphotography> GIMP nor Photoshop can do the workflow lightroom does.
[08:12] <E3b> hello all
[08:12] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: What Lightroom?
[08:12] <MeVsTheVoices> E3b: SUP!
[08:12] <bernz> dmphotography, however, you can run windows inside a window in linux
[08:12] <SPF> jla: sometimes the drivers aren't available. For example Nvidia drivers can be downloaded from their website. But I think in this case your RAM might be the problem
[08:12] <bernz> and you can run lightroom in that
[08:13] <skringla> red-rum: use a live cd and reinstall grub after the copy, have you thought of how you are setting up the partions?
[08:13] <dmphotography> It's basically Adobe Bridge and Adobe Camera RAW combined.
[08:13] <bernz> (if it's not high-speed-graphics-intensive, it might be workable)
[08:13] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: Ohh we gots that!
[08:13] <bernz> MeVsTheVoices, hahahahah "Ooh we gots that!"
[08:13] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: Its called `mount;mkdir;cp`
[08:13] <dmphotography> bernz: I tried earlier, but I don't know how to install them in Linux.
[08:14] <red-rum> reinstall grub? as in replace the new with the old?
[08:14] <E3b> I configure alsa to work on 5.1 sound channel, I edit '/etc/asound.conf' but now I dont have sound on flash in firefox (sites like YouTube), if I remove the file '/etc/asound.conf' it's working but then I dont have 5.1 channel, any idea please?
[08:14] <bernz> dmphotography, Titan8990 suggested a nice command-line way that should work (sudo apt-get install gimp)
[08:14] <MeVsTheVoices> !5.1
[08:14] <jla> So, the standard desktop doesn't work without 384 and if I want to run a program or two beyond that the Ubuntu minimum is really 512?
[08:15] <bernz> dmphotography, you might need to do a 'sudo apt-get update' first
[08:15] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: Ohh you also want the plugins and some extra brushes, you'll be missing if you were a photoshopper
[08:15] <bernz> to freshen up the list
[08:15] <dmphotography> Gimp is already installed.  I'm talking about running Lightroom in Ubuntu.
[08:15] <bernz> ahhhhhhh
[08:15] <dmphotography> Such as using WINE.
[08:15] <ari_stress> hello, can we tell trackerd to only run on say.. 4am in the morning?!
[08:15] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: Mount the drive, copy the files, put them in some folders?
[08:15] <E3b> how can I force firefox to work with 'aoss'
[08:15] <E3b> ?
[08:16] <skringla> red-rum: if you are not going to use the old hard drive, I think that grub will have to be redone but that is a guess, I kind of agree with the other that if posible you should keep the old hard drive but if you are not going to, the booting from a live cd and just reinstalling will be easier
[08:16] <bernz> if wine isn't doing it, you might be able to run a virtual machine, in which you "install" windows, and your required apps, and then you just put the virtual machine to sleep (hibernation of sorts) between uses
[08:16] <skringla> red-rum:
[08:16] <bastid_raZor> jla; you can run as much as you want.. it'll just respond slower and slower. RAM is so cheap now days it is hard to not purchase more RAM
[08:16] <edvard1> jla: is your swap partition mounted?
[08:16] <dmphotography> MeVsTheVoices: Do you have to install the app on Linux or do you copy a pre-installed version?
[08:16] <kavitha>  i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[08:16] <cjae> did anyone get a chance to read that?
[08:17] <jla> bastid_raZor: except for slot-limited laptops :)
[08:17] <lorenzosu> On an HP Compaq desktop something wired happens: if I plug my headphones in the front plug the audio from the speaker is still audible. Hoc can I have the PC speaker excluded when I plug the headphones in?
[08:17] <lucifero> hello everyone. im using ubuntu on Sony VAIO vgn-z520n
[08:17] <lucifero> but..
[08:17] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: What does lightbox do but mount your camera, copy the files, and store them somewhere?
[08:17] <lucifero> after updating the nvidia driver, it crashes
[08:17] <bastid_raZor> jla; replace the RAM entirely.. even laptop RAM is cheap.
[08:17] <dmphotography> It doesn't do that at all.
[08:18] <dmphotography> Or at least that's not how I use it.
[08:18] <bernz> lorenzosu, usually those "weird" behaviors are "features" from the manufacturer; check HP mainsite support area for special utility programs for this purpose (changing the behavior)
[08:18] <skringla> red-rum: sorry, if you copy your home folder over to the new install all of your old settings are kept, and there are easy ways to automaticly install all of the software you had on the old install that came from the repositories (apt-get)
[08:18] <akorpija> Anybody know how i can add screen resolutions? I've tried editing Xorg but in the xorg file there is no Modes with "1920 x 1080" for example so where would i do this?
[08:18] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: Ohh, sorry then, I must have tuned, I'll got look at lightbox, see if I can find any linux alternatives
[08:18] <Titan8990> akorpija, you make your own mode with that resolution
[08:18] <lucifero> akorpija: under X or CLI ?
[08:18] <Titan8990> akorpija, or replace an existing resolution with that value
[08:19] <bastid_raZor> !clone > red-rum :: to copy all your previously installed packages.. follow this
[08:19] <dmphotography> If you have ever edited photos in Adobe camera RAW, it doesn't phyically change the photo, instead it applies the changes in a sidecart file, XML file.
[08:19] <kirt> red-rum: It is very doable. A bit of googleing would probably help you find a method of doing it while saving everything. sfdisk, mkfs, afio, grub are the main commands that you need.
[08:19] <akorpija> Titan8990: the thing is that there ARE no existing resoltuions in my xorg file
[08:19] <dmphotography> Basically Lightroom does the same thing.
[08:19] <dmphotography> But is very efficient at editing bulk photos, such as a whole wedding, etc.
[08:19] <kirt> red-rum: Make SURE you have a backup OFFLINE of your data first. :-)
[08:19] <lorenzosu> bernz: lol.. you think it might be fixable from the BIOS (OS independednt)?
[08:19] <bernz> dmphotography, ah, that sounds like a useful tool, for sure (i'm a quality nut)
[08:20] <jla> edvard1: yes, it is. it's almost 4x ram in size
[08:20] <skringla> red-rum: also bios settings are important any time you change hard drives
[08:20] <edvard1> k
[08:20] <edvard1> thought i'd ask, that's one of the symptoms of swap not mounted
[08:21] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: GIMP can has too, have to learn how to code for gimp plugins though.... maybe you should try it in wine, I cannot find a page for it, but trying it cant hurt... most of the time
[08:21] <Titan8990> akorpija, http://pastebin.com/d78d87308
[08:21] <bernz> lorenzosu, yes, it's possible there's an option for that... the other thing to check is the mixer
[08:21] <dmphotography> Yeah, I'm a wedding photographer and editing each photo individually using something like GIMP or Photoshop is too time consuming.
[08:21] <Titan8990> akorpija, that is a xorg.conf.example from another distro
[08:21] <Titan8990> akorpija, explains all the syntaxs for xorg
[08:21] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: I see what you mean
[08:22] <bernz> lorenzosu, in the GUI (X desktop), you should be able to show audio properties, including the mixer, and there might be a slider you can use to turn the speakers off/down while leaving phones on
[08:22] <kavitha>  i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[08:22] <dmphotography> MeVsTheVoices: Like I stated earlier, I don't know how to install apps in WINE.
[08:22] <Titan8990> dmphotography, wine /path/to/installer
[08:22] <Titan8990> dmphotography, from terminal
[08:22] <Titan8990> !appdb | dmphotography
[08:22] <jla> are there any visual effects to turn on/off? I thought the install screen mentioned something like that but I'm not finding it now
[08:23] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: `sudo apt-get install wine` to start off, then just double click the installer, generally install.exe, or an .exe at any rate, wine will then just go about the install process
[08:23] <Titan8990> dmphotography, check for compatibility there
[08:23] <kirt> There are 787,000 thousand hits for "lightwave on linux"!
[08:23] <Titan8990> !ccsm | jla
[08:23] <lorenzosu> bernz: I tried that: I have a "headphone" switch but doesn't seem to work. Problem is that the machine has also a rear headphone plug
[08:23] <jla> the video card in my laptop isn't the best in the world, but it's better than my other desktop
[08:23] <dmphotography> Yeah, the installers won't launch for some reason.
[08:23] <jla> Titan8990: ty
[08:23] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, you around? I want to properly thank you!
[08:23] <dmphotography> I used the Synaptic Package Manager to install wine.
[08:23] <MeVsTheVoices> jla: System-> Preferences-> Appearance, make sure thats set to none
[08:23] <Titan8990> jla, np
[08:23] <dmphotography> But the installers won't launch.
[08:24] <akorpija> Titan8990: thanks, but i still dont see it being as simple as it was when i did this once...im wondering why my Xorg doesnt even have any resoltuions listed? even tho i can select from a LOT of different ones
[08:24] <bernz> lorenzosu, it could be that that rear jack has the switch that detects plug-in, but not the front... sorry, i can't go beyond that level of detail
[08:24] <jla> yelp was a pig. closed it and it's helped a ton
[08:24] <Titan8990> dmphotography, if it is a msi:  msiexec /path/to/installer
[08:24] <dmphotography> EXE.
[08:24] <edvard1> akorpija: thats a new feature of X: automagic
[08:24] <lorenzosu> bernz: Got it!
[08:24] <bernz> lorenzosu, but it's worth messing around with the mixer a lot until you have tried most stuff; sometimes the solution isn't intuitive
[08:24] <akorpija> dmphotography: is lightbox the linux equiv of lightroom?
[08:24] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: in a term type `wine -v installer.exe` if it looks serious and stuff, then most likey it wont work in WINE, and you gotta try a VM
[08:24] <bernz> lorenzosu, awesome, good work :-)
[08:25] <bernz> okay, i need sleep
[08:25] <bernz> g'night all
[08:25] <lorenzosu> Apparently the PC speaker iscalled "mono" and has its own fader... I hadn't enabled all the mixer views.
[08:25] <akorpija> edvard1: haha yaaa but i want to add one resolution since i think counterstrike will then let me set it to that too :P
[08:25] <Titan8990> when will the world realize that things that automagically work are more likely to automagically fail.....
[08:25] <DanaG> lorenzosu: is it one of the business workstations?
[08:25] <dmphotography> akorpija: Lemme look and see what lightbox is, but I doubt it.
[08:25] <DanaG> I seem to remember those having the Mono slider control internal speaker.
[08:25] <MeVsTheVoices> Titan8990: But then I'd be out'a job!
[08:25] <jla> MeVsTheVoices: it was on normal. I'll see how none goes. ty
[08:25] <lorenzosu> DanaG: Yes. After months I managed to convince my boss to install ubuntu on one of these machines.
[08:25] <DanaG> go to gnome-terminal and do alsamixer -c0
[08:25] <MeVsTheVoices> jla: Np
[08:25] <Titan8990> MeVsTheVoices, hhe
[08:26] <DanaG> 0 as in zero.
[08:26] <jla> menu access is even better
[08:26] <edvard1> titan8990: fully agree
[08:26] <akorpija> dmphotography: oh nvm thought yu knew what it was im gonna try finding an equivalent for lightroom
[08:26] <lorenzosu> DanaG: I solved it! :) The inbuilt PC speaker has its own fader in the mixer: it calls it "Mono"
[08:26] <Milkeh> why does my music not want to play
[08:26] <Titan8990> !codecs | milkeh
[08:26] <DanaG> the Cal Poly lab has some of those workstations, but with Fedora.
[08:26] <MeVsTheVoices> Milkeh: It has feelings?
[08:27] <edvard1> how do i get a log for a failed boot?
[08:27] <Milkeh> MeVsTheVoices, I think mine does, it doesn't like me
[08:27] <kebomix> i need help with installing Pidgin Master Password Patch !?
[08:27] <shauno> dmphotography: it's not free, but http://www.lightcrafts.com/linux/ looks like the only real workflow tool native to linux (not free, however).  interesting discussion at http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157600882758490/
[08:27] <Titan8990> edvard1, /var/log/messages   and   dmesg
[08:27] <edvard1> a successful boot wipes out the preveious one
[08:27] <kebomix> http://rahul.amaram.name/blog/2008/02/23/pidgin-master-password-patch
[08:27] <lorenzosu> DnaG: Cal Poly?
[08:27] <dmphotography> What's so special about Debian?
[08:27] <MeVsTheVoices> Milkeh: Then get serious, show it who's boss, kill a couple children ect..
[08:27] <Milkeh> Titan8990, I installed the codecs, it just doesn't want to play when I open it
[08:28] <MeVsTheVoices> dmphotography: Its sexy!
[08:28] <Titan8990> edvard1, if that is the case then you have a problem with logrotate
[08:28] <edvard1> :
[08:28] <edvard1> ?
[08:28] <Titan8990> Milkeh, check the comprehensive multimedia tutorial on the ubuntu forums
[08:28] <Milkeh> MeVsTheVoices, I don't think that will work, it's very ignorant.
[08:28] <Titan8990> Milkeh, I highly recommend vlc or mplayer
[08:28] <edvard1> here's my problem: the default installation got borked somehow when i was testing 9.04 daily build
[08:28] <DanaG> California Polytechnic State University.
[08:28] <DanaG> That's my college.
[08:28] <Titan8990> dmphotography, debian package management is what makes debian special
[08:28] <Milkeh> Titan8990, It's not the player itself, I've tried like 5 different players, including mplayer
[08:28] <MeVsTheVoices> Milkeh: Ahh I see, well then, you might wanna check you have your sound turned on in that case
[08:29] <rww> edvard1: Jaunty installs are not supported here. Try the #ubuntu+1 channel.
[08:29] <Titan8990> Milkeh, what error are you getting?
[08:29] <dmphotography> Yeah, LightZone is the Lightroom equivalent.
[08:29] <Milkeh> MeVsTheVoices, Yes it's turned on, the song just sits on 0:00
[08:29] <kebomix> Anybody plz help installing Pidgin Master Password Patch : http://rahul.amaram.name/blog/2008/02/23/pidgin-master-password-patch  ?
[08:29] <Milkeh> Titan8990, No error, just sits on 0:00
[08:29] <achilles> hello, the NAT IP is the public one we translate to or the internal one we go to ?
[08:29] <dmphotography> It takes forever to DL.
[08:29] <MeVsTheVoices> Milkeh: This is just weird, someone had the exact same problem yesterday. You getting sound outa flash?
[08:29] <lorenzosu> DanaG: Wow, cool. But I guess at uni it's easier.. In business environment with all the machines preinstalled with Windows XP an so forth. In fact installing Ubuntu on here maintaining the dual boot was a little of a nightmre.
[08:29] <dmphotography> I'm just wondering why it over Ubuntu . . .
[08:29] <edvard1> rww: im not asking about jaunty, me playing with jaunty somehow borked my intrepid install
[08:29] <Titan8990> Milkeh, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[08:29] <Milkeh> MeVsTheVoices, I was probably that same person because I remember talking to you :P
[08:30] <Titan8990> dmphotography, it is more stable than ubuntu
[08:30] <lorenzosu> This machine also had a fake raid with raid 0 - shrug :|
[08:30]  * MeVsTheVoices sends Milkeh to the naughty corner!
[08:30] <DanaG> !botsnack
[08:30] <skringla> kebomix: what problem are you having?
[08:30] <edvard1> i cant boot to the default install, but I can get through if I boot to the recovery mode and pick "continue normal boot"
[08:30] <Titan8990> dmphotography, debian supports 6 computer archs, ubuntu supports 2
[08:31] <DanaG> Raid 0 is a bad idea: you HALVE your reliability.
[08:31] <MeVsTheVoices> Titan8990: \o/ where you get that from?
[08:31] <DanaG> If one drive fails, you might as well have had both fail.
[08:31] <Titan8990> MeVsTheVoices, the arch differences? the debian website
[08:31] <lorenzosu> DanaG: I know... tell HP though ;)
[08:31] <Titan8990> MeVsTheVoices, ubuntu only supports x86 and x86-64
[08:32] <MeVsTheVoices> Titan8990: I have it on my PS3, which is neither
[08:32] <kebomix> skringla: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/116379/
[08:32] <Milkeh> MeVsTheVoices, last time I was "harley" :P
[08:32] <lorenzosu> DanaG: But in the end I managed to install with double boot and without having to reinstall windows.. made me feel so smart lol
[08:32] <lorenzosu> All using the LiveCD
[08:32] <Titan8990> MeVsTheVoices, is that not a special release?
[08:32] <dmphotography> Why is it like 12GB to download though?
[08:32] <MeVsTheVoices> Titan8990: So? Its still released in't it?
[08:32] <edvard1> if i boot the 'normal' entry from grub, i get some VERY different boot messages, then it freezes at "loading manual drivers" and the screen turns green
[08:32] <DanaG> I tried fakeraid raid1, and the newer dmraid did not work.
[08:32] <dmphotography> And is it better for a web server?
[08:32] <Titan8990> MeVsTheVoices, its not officially ubuntu
[08:33] <Titan8990> MeVsTheVoices, just like fluxbuntu is not an official ubuntu release
[08:33] <Titan8990> MeVsTheVoices, its a spin-off varient
[08:33] <MeVsTheVoices> Titan8990: Neither is anything out of the restricted apt-sources, but both still use them anyway
[08:33] <lorenzosu> I was not aloud to alter the existing windows, as reinstalling here means formally calling the IT guys and payingfor the reinstall etc. So was alwys afraid I could screw things up
[08:33] <tuna-fish> how can I find out the uuid of a hard drive?
[08:33] <MeVsTheVoices> lorenzosu: I still get nightmares of GRUB going tits up on me
[08:34] <lorenzosu> I guess fake raid is quite suilly idea, if yuou need space just use two drives, if you need backup just do regular backups.
[08:34] <tuna-fish> (or a partition)
[08:34] <MeVsTheVoices> tuna-fish: `sudo vol_id /dev/drive`
[08:34] <tuna-fish> thank you
[08:34] <edvard1> tuna-fish : ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[08:34] <MeVsTheVoices> tuna-fish: No problem sweet cheeks
[08:34] <lorenzosu> MeVsTheVoices: For me grub was the 'easy' part.. although I had to follow the procedure to re-enable it from the live CD.
[08:34] <Titan8990> MeVsTheVoices, I am not here to argue this, I was just pointing out the differences, one being ubuntu doesnt support archs like SPARC
[08:35] <MeVsTheVoices> Titan8990: Ok.
[08:35] <DanaG> Oh yeah, so, should I mark my bug as confirmed?
[08:35] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[08:35] <MeVsTheVoices> lorenzosu: I keep a super-grub-disk near by
[08:35] <Titan8990> !jaunty | DanaG
[08:36] <edvard1> titan8990: logrotate?
[08:36] <DanaG> Read my second comment.
[08:36] <DanaG> Also broken on Intrepid.
[08:36] <MeVsTheVoices> lorenzosu: Except mine was one version old, and didn't support ext3 disks, after hours of sweat a shit I finnally find a hidden away little article saying that no, it will not find stage1, and its not my fault its a lying Sack of sugar
[08:36] <Titan8990> edvard1, logrotate compresses your old logs and rotates them
[08:36] <lorenzosu> MeVsTheVoices: I find the LiveCD very useful as a rescue disk... only trouble might be you have to install stuff.
[08:37] <Titan8990> edvard1, but regardless, your logs should never get overwritten
[08:37] <edvard1> titan8990: maybe the log from the borked boot isn't written?
[08:37] <lorenzosu> MeVsTheVoices: Aww I see. Anyway it was hard work but not that hard... I'm not sure if publishing the procvedure would be helpful to anybody
[08:37] <Titan8990> edvard1, disable the words "quiet splash" from the kernel boot line
[08:38] <edvard1> aha
[08:38] <Titan8990> edvard1, then you can see whats happening yourself
[08:38] <edvard1> ok
[08:38] <edvard1> i'll try that
[08:38] <MeVsTheVoices> lorenzosu: I just hope I catch them in here, otherwise, I'm just too damn lazy
[08:38] <Flannel> MeVsTheVoices: Again, please mind your language.
[08:38] <DanaG> so, it is an Intrepid bug, too... should I mark it confirmed?
[08:39] <edvard1> titan8990: thanks
[08:39] <MeVsTheVoices> Flannel: Little bit slow on that one
[08:39] <lorenzosu> MeVsTheVoices: Yea, tis channel is so cool... I always get 90 % of the questions answered in less than 5 mins... makes you alittle lazy though
[08:39] <Titan8990> edvard1, gl
[08:39] <akorpija> Okay, so I've downloaded LightZone, and it's a tar.gz file...now if i want to Run the program i navigate over to the folder in Terminal, and then i type in ./LightZone, or i can just double click LightZone in the folder....but how do i add a shortcut to this, and how do i make it so im not told that it's an executable text file and how would i like to run it...
[08:39] <edvard1> i'll be back with a report
[08:39] <Titan8990> akorpija, what does the documentation say?
[08:40] <Milkeh> Titan8990, the page had no solutions do my problem :\
[08:40] <Titan8990> Milkeh, run vlc from the terminal and pastebin any error the terminal reports
[08:41] <Titan8990> akorpija, most likely you downloaded source code that needs to be compiled
[08:41] <Aperture_Science> So, question. I installed IDJC. Shortly after this I realized I neglected some key dependencies before the install. I removed IDJC via the add/remove programs, but it doesn't appear to be completely gone.
[08:41] <Milkeh> Titan8990, alright give me a sec to finish downloading these files
[08:41] <quibbler> akorpija: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[08:41] <akorpija> Titan8990: yea it does just that i can't use ./configure on it
[08:41] <Titan8990> akorpija, its custom to include an INSTALL or README file that explains how to install it
[08:42] <Titan8990> akorpija, you are compiling someone elses code and should follow their instructions
[08:42] <MeVsTheVoices> akorpija: Most that are w/o ./configure will be configed by autoconfigure or by an install script/makefile
[08:42] <DanaG> Is one confirmation enough to justify changing marked bug status?
[08:42] <luddite> hey - i need help with deleting a ubuntu partition from a dual boot machine with two ubuntu's running. details here http://paste.ubuntu.com/116258/
[08:42] <Flannel> DanaG: #ubuntu-bugs is the place for bugwork question
[08:42] <MeVsTheVoices> akorpija: Or just look for a readme that generally come with a section on installing
[08:43] <akorpija> Titan8990: MeVsTheVoices yea i'm trying to find any documentation on installing just can't but i guess i can see why asking u guys this is dumb since it varies so much hah
[08:43] <MeVsTheVoices> akorpija: ./INSTALL ./README ./HELP ./AHAHAHAHAAH
[08:43] <akorpija> MeVsTheVoices: hahah
[08:45] <quibbler> akorpija: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[08:45]  * MeVsTheVoices has left the building
[08:45] <akorpija> quibbler: thanks
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:53] <dmphotography> Hmmm.  I can't get Hamachi to start
[08:54] <dmphotography> Did you all leave?
[08:54] <lorenzosu> gtg, bbl
[08:55] <Titan8990> dmphotography, still here
[08:55] <Titan8990> dmphotography, what error does hamachi return?
[08:56] <dmphotography> tap: connect() failed 2 (No such file or directory)
[08:56] <Titan8990> dmphotography, sounds like you need to configure a tap interface
[08:56] <Titan8990> !tap | dmphotography
[08:56] <dmphotography> Oh great.
[08:56] <Titan8990> !tun |  dmphotography
[08:56] <Titan8990> !tun/tap | dmphotography
[08:57] <dmphotography> LOL.
[08:57] <dmphotography> Dumb bot.
[08:57] <rww> Titan8990: I usually check whether factoids exist with "/msg ubottu !factoidname" before using them in-channel.
[08:57] <rww> dmphotography: it can't read minds ;)
[08:58] <ari_stress> !xdg
[08:58] <Titan8990> rww, thanks for the tip, was actually wandering about that
[08:58] <ari_stress> what is xdg? /etc/xdg
[08:58] <dmphotography> LOL @ Titan
[08:59] <edvard1> titan8990: this is weird. I took out 'quiet splash' like you said and now everything boots normally
[08:59] <edvard1> 0_0
[08:59] <edvard1> maybe usplash is what is borked?
[08:59] <Titan8990> edvard1, lol corrupt splash image maybe?
[08:59] <Titan8990> dmphotography, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179472
[08:59] <jim_p> !info wajig
[08:59] <edvard1> could be
[09:00] <Titan8990> dmphotography, that guide isn't specifically for your situation but explains how to create a tap interface
[09:00] <jim_p> has anyone used wajig?
[09:00] <rww> ari_stress: XDG stands for X Desktop Group, which is the former name of the freedesktop.org standards group. That particular folder is used for http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs
[09:00] <edvard1> where is the splash image?
[09:00] <Titan8990> dmphotography, you should note that it is an advanced topic
[09:00] <Titan8990> edvard1, ehh, not sure, should be defined somewhere in xorg.conf
[09:00] <Titan8990> edvard1, I always disable it immediatly
[09:01] <edvard1> 0.o xorg?
[09:01] <edvard1> i thought the splash was a grub thing
[09:01] <edvard1> good advice
[09:01] <Titan8990> edvard1, err grub.conf is what I meant, sorry
[09:01] <edvard1> aha
[09:01] <edvard1> thanks
[09:01] <edvard1> ill check
[09:01] <Titan8990> edvard1, well, menu.lst in ubuntu
[09:01] <edvard1> already checked there
[09:02] <dmphotography> Yeah, I'm seeing that.  I'm trying to understand what the tap is.  I take it it's a network adapter for Hamachi?
[09:02] <Milkeh> Titan8990, for some reason vlc is playing the track but there is no sound
[09:02] <rww> dmphotography: according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214017 , running "tunconfig" might help
[09:03] <rww> tuncfg **
[09:03] <Titan8990> Milkeh, use alsamixer to make sure your channels are not muted
[09:03] <Titan8990> Milkeh, do you get sound in any other applications?
[09:03] <Milkeh> Titan8990, Yes
[09:03] <Titan8990> Milkeh, any errors in the terminal?
[09:03] <Milkeh> Titan8990, nope, none
[09:04] <ari_stress> thanks a bunch rww. looks interesting. i need to remove trackerd from /etc/xdg/autostart
[09:04] <Titan8990> Milkeh, do you have another application that could be currently using the sound module?
[09:04] <Milkeh> Titan8990, I don't think so
[09:06] <rww> ari_stress: The autostart stuff is defined in http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-0.5.html . If you just need to remove it for one user, you can also just use System > Preferences > Sessions (or delete it from that folder; either should work)
[09:06] <alfons_> can anyone help me wit this: I cannot write to some of my harddisks anymore. Logged in as user, but as root I everything works ok.
[09:06] <Milkeh> Titan8990, now nothing is even attempting to play
[09:06] <Milkeh> Titan8990, hold on a second I'll be back
[09:07] <dmphotography> AAAHA!  It was as simple as typing tuncfg.
[09:07] <dmphotography> Hehe.
[09:07] <Titan8990> dmphotography, nice, I thought you were going to have to write a entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:07] <Titan8990> alfons_, what format is the drive?
[09:08] <alfons_> I tried to solve it with editing fstab
[09:08] <dmphotography> LOL, that would've been a definite NO.  Haha.
[09:08] <dmphotography> I would've scrapped it before doing all of that.
[09:08] <Milkeh> something else is really annoying
[09:08] <Titan8990> dmphotography, your no fun
[09:08] <alfons_> there are 5 harddrives in my system, with 9 partitions
[09:08] <dmphotography> I draw my line somewhere.
[09:08] <alfons_> all the NTFS partitions are normally accesible
[09:08] <Milkeh> why does my window manager always go on compiz when I want it on metacity?
[09:09] <Titan8990> dmphotography, the line should be: write the app yourself
[09:09] <dmphotography> I'll dang sure spend hours and hours with Apache stuff, but I'm not much into programming.
[09:09] <Titan8990> Milkeh, compiz is enabled by default in ubuntu I believe
[09:09] <dmphotography> I have to learn a programming language first.
[09:09] <Titan8990> Milkeh, you shlould be able to add:  metacity --replace   and add it to your sessions
[09:09] <dmphotography> PHP would probably be the most beneficial.
[09:09] <dmphotography> To my needs anyways.
[09:10] <Titan8990> dmphotography, python is usually the recommendation for beginners
[09:10] <alfons_> where does ubuntu store the acces rights to the disks?
[09:10] <Titan8990> dmphotography, stanford and MIT offer free classes and class materials online
[09:10] <dmphotography> Well, my main interest pertains to web servers/web content.
[09:10] <Titan8990> alfons_, there are in the ACLs of the files on the drive
[09:10] <Titan8990> alfons_, with every filesystem
[09:11] <dmphotography> Which I deal with PHP more than anything else.
[09:11] <ari_stress> rww: oww.. you're good! thanks
[09:11] <alfons_> sory what is ACLS
[09:11] <dmphotography> I just have a hard time learning it.
[09:11] <Titan8990> dmphotography, access control list
[09:11] <Titan8990> err
[09:11] <Titan8990> alfons_, , access control list
[09:11] <rakudave> Milkeh: you could try "compiz fusion icon", which sits in you tray an alows you to change back and forth wich one click
[09:12] <alfons_> and where can I find and eidt this ACL exactly
[09:12] <Titan8990> alfons_, do: ls -al /path/to/disk    to see the current permissions of a directory/file
[09:12] <alfons_> aha, thanx
[09:12] <Titan8990> alfons_, to change permissions see:  man chmod   and  man chown
[09:13] <Titan8990> alfons_, but it doesn't really apply to formats such as fat or NTFS
[09:13] <dmphotography> For an idea of what I'm currently working on, see http://www.myownserver.info
[09:13] <Titan8990> alfons_, because the ACLs of linux and windows are different
[09:13] <dmphotography> That's pretty much what I've been doing lately is learning all of that and writing those tutorials.
[09:13] <Titan8990> dmphotography, using quantum plus?
[09:14] <alfons_> do you have any idea how this could get f*cked up?
[09:14] <Titan8990> dmphotography, sorry, thats quanta plus
[09:14] <dmphotography> Quantum plus?  What's that?
[09:14] <ari_stress> wb bazhang
[09:14] <alfons_> I can see only root
[09:14] <Titan8990> alfons_, what format if the drive?
[09:14] <dmphotography> Dunno what quanta pluss is either.
[09:14] <alfons_> i have bot fat32 and ext3 and ext2
[09:14] <box_> hey, how can i find out what sound driver i'm using?
[09:15] <Titan8990> alfons_, sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /path/to/drive
[09:15] <DeadDrive> argh!!!!
[09:15] <alfons_> is youruser to be changed by my user name?
[09:15] <Titan8990> alfons_, yes
[09:15] <DeadDrive> Installed 8.10 and it  isn't detecting my sound card.
[09:15] <alfons_> okay,
[09:16] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, don't know the drill?
[09:16] <DeadDrive> Going to let it run through updates and see if that fixes the issue.
[09:16] <mcsx3> Morning!  People
[09:16] <kisiel99> 8.10 in poland are great
[09:16] <Titan8990> !alsa | DeadDrive
[09:16] <edvard1> that is, if PulseAudio doesn't interfere
[09:16] <edvard1> >_<
[09:16] <mcsx3> anyone here can help me with a question?
[09:16] <DeadDrive> Tried that already :) says no gstreamer plugin or devices found.
[09:17] <alfons_> lets try that
[09:17] <robbe-> ubottu: anyone | mcsx3
[09:17] <Milkeh> i will now remember not to use emerald and compiz again
[09:17] <edvard1> Milkeh: good choice
[09:17] <DeadDrive> There's 245 updates to run through. I'll let the updates run and see if that fixes the issue.
[09:17] <kavitha>  i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[09:17] <rakudave> !anyone  | mcsx3
[09:18] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, very possible because there will likely be some kernel updates in there
[09:18] <DeadDrive> Ya, that's why I'm not freaking about it yet.
[09:18] <kavitha> ubottu:
[09:18] <mcsx3> Does anyone know how to keep grub on a dual boot rig if I want to reinstall Vista?
[09:18] <DeadDrive> Besides, what fun would linux be if you didn't get to play with it a little now and then :)
[09:19] <DeadDrive> I think grub auto-detects other OS's on install.
[09:19] <Milkeh> where are my themes being saved to?
[09:19] <DeadDrive> milkeh, in the shared folder
[09:19] <Titan8990> Milkeh, gnome themes?
[09:19] <alfons_> okay, now i think i screwed up.....I could not write to the file system on / as well. So i did that chown command.
[09:19] <mcsx3> I installed windows first and then Ubuntu
[09:19] <robbe-> mcsx3: vista is a "dumb" os and will overwrite your bootloader, so you'll have to "reinstall" grub, which can be done from a live cd
[09:19] <Titan8990> alfons_, no.....
[09:20] <rww> mcsx3: Reinstall Vista, then do https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:20] <mcsx3> but now I want to install a different flavor of Windows.
[09:20] <edvard1> damn robbe- you beat me to it
[09:20] <alfons_> i know, can I restore that?
[09:20] <mcsx3> ah, ok.  from a live cd.
[09:20] <robbe-> what rww said :)
[09:20] <DeadDrive> There's a gnome theme manager if you go to display properties.
[09:20] <mcsx3> thanks
[09:20] <alfons_> I hear my drive working.....
[09:20] <Milkeh> DeadDrive, I've imported a couple but they've disapeared from the appearance section and I know there somewhere because I can't import with the same titled.
[09:20] <Milkeh> titles*
[09:20] <rakudave> mcsx3: No way, a micro$oft overwrites the MBR without looking for another OS. It WILL destroy grub.
[09:20] <KevKaltar> \join #TSIGA
[09:20] <jim_p> has anyone used wajig?
[09:20] <jim_p> !info wajig
[09:20] <alfons_> does -R mean every subdirectory is now fucked up?
[09:21] <rakudave> KevKaltar: /join
[09:21] <mcsx3> there any way around it?
[09:21] <DeadDrive> milkeh, usr/share/
[09:21] <Titan8990> alfons_, yeah, that usually toastes an OS
[09:21] <alfons_> please help me!!!
[09:21] <DeadDrive> Forget what dir
[09:21] <mcsx3> I'd rather keep Ubunto but, I still have to use Windows for work.
[09:21] <suma> Is there any command available to check whether the usb is plugged in the usb drive or not
[09:21] <Milkeh> DeadDrive, there not in the theme folder
[09:21] <edvard1> mcsx3: no, you'll have to re-do grub from a ubuntu cd afterwards
[09:21] <Milkeh> DeadDrive, the default themes are, not imported ones though
[09:21] <alfons_> is there anything I can do? Anyhting at all?
[09:21] <rakudave> mcsx3: no, window$ has always been like that. you'll just have to reinstall grub after reinstalling vista
[09:21] <Titan8990> alfons_, well, it comes up occassionaly on the forums
[09:22] <DeadDrive> Yikes milkeh, you'll have to reimport them
[09:22] <mcsx3> ok, dudes.  I give it a shot.  Thaks much.  Good day!
[09:22] <DeadDrive> alfons ya, -r is recursive
[09:22] <Titan8990> alfons_, the general consesus is reinstall
[09:22] <Milkeh> DeadDrive, but I can't import themes with the same title?
[09:22] <alfons_> I really love linux, been working with it for a year, but this rights managemet stuff, I cannot comprehend it
[09:22] <suma> Anyone know ﻿Is there any command available to check whether the usb is plugged in the usb drive or not please answer it anybody
[09:22] <Titan8990> alfons_, careful running commands that you are unsure about, especially as root
[09:22] <ezerhoden> suma: i dont know if i follow your question, but lsusb may be what you are looking for
[09:22] <DeadDrive> I'm kind of newbish myself Milkeh, so not really the person to ask :)
[09:23] <Titan8990> alfons_, what you did was change the owner of ever file
[09:23] <rakudave> suma: "lsusb"
[09:23] <alfons_> yeah, i know, litlle bit too late
[09:23] <Titan8990> alfons_, many files, applications, services, daemons, etc depend on certain permissions to function properly
[09:23] <alfons_> what happens now when i restart the PC?
[09:23] <Titan8990> alfons_, it may or may not start up
[09:24] <alfons_> i have a system backup
[09:24] <suma> K this command shows all the drives pa, how can i find which is usb drive
[09:24] <alfons_> I made it wit simple system backup
[09:24] <kavitha> hi suma
[09:24] <kavitha> frm india??
[09:24] <ezerhoden> suma: i can not follow your question
[09:25] <suma> hai kavitha, im from india
[09:25] <Titan8990> alfons_, excellent
[09:25] <DeadDrive> So, first thoughts on 8.10. No where near as ugly out of the box.
[09:25] <Titan8990> alfons_, most people don't backup
[09:25] <kavitha> came to know by ur name..
[09:25] <kavitha> :-)
[09:25] <ari_stress> what is "create usb startup disk" for?
[09:25] <DeadDrive> <--- didn't backup and looked what happened to him :)
[09:26] <suma> ezerhoden: i use lsusb command which shows all the harddisk drives in the system how can i find which one is usb drive
[09:26] <DeadDrive> ari: usb startup disk is to boot from a usb device
[09:26] <suma> kavitha: my name is suji, you are from?
[09:26] <edvard1> DeadDrive: i agree 8.10 looks better but i am looking forward to 9.04
[09:26] <rakudave> suma: lsusb only lists usb devices.
[09:26] <edvard1> hopefully network manager is fixed and acpi works again
[09:26] <kavitha> i m from india... Manglore
[09:26] <ezerhoden> suma: lsusb only shows usb devices, try mount to look for the device
[09:27] <DeadDrive> Edvard1, I can't wait to get my new box built and seeing how the 64 bit version runs
[09:27] <suma> kavitha: k what are you  doing
[09:27] <rakudave> suma: my usb-mouse shows up as "Bus 002 Device 004: ID 046d:c045 Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse" so just look for the brand of you disk (kingston etc...)
[09:27]  * edvard1 is jealous of 64 bits
[09:27] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[09:27] <DeadDrive> From what I hear it doesn't have all the issues 64 bit Vista has.
[09:27] <Titan8990> darkice gnome theme ftw
[09:27] <ezerhoden> suma: or you can look in dmesg for where the drive has been mounted
[09:27] <edvard1> HAHA
[09:27] <edvard1> for that matter neither does 32 bit!!
[09:27] <DeadDrive> Darkice? I'll have to check it out. I was using slickness black
[09:27] <tavi> is a command trought i can reset the settings of video and sound on linux?
[09:27] <DeadDrive> rotfl
[09:28] <tavi> ubuntu
[09:28] <Titan8990> !alsa | tavi
[09:28] <Titan8990> tavi, for video, reinstall using the restried drivers manager
[09:28] <mattwj2002> can anyone recommend a good webcam for ubuntu?
[09:28] <Titan8990> tavi, but no, there isn't a magic "go back" command
[09:28] <suma> ezwehoden: no dmesg, i plugged a usb and use the command lsusb it shows the result same as when i'm not plugged the usb
[09:29] <rww> !hcl | mattwj2002
[09:29] <mattwj2002> thanks rww
[09:29] <mattwj2002> :D
[09:29] <rakudave> mattwj2002: logitec has worked well for me
[09:29] <DeadDrive> Damn Titan, just reminded me of all the junk I have to install again :(
[09:29] <DeadDrive> Restricted extras, flash player, vlc
[09:29] <dmphotography> Hey Titan, can you tell me what apt this is: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=93996&d=1227557141
[09:29] <Titan8990> !codecs | tavi
[09:29] <ezerhoden> mattwj2002: logitech quickcam messenger
[09:29] <mattwj2002> yeah I want something at least 1 Megapexil
[09:29] <rww> mattwj2002: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/cameras might also be useful
[09:29] <edvard1> mattwj2002: i've seen reports all over that logitech is a safe bet. all the same keep your receipts
[09:30] <dmphotography> The system monitor on the left.
[09:30] <Shock> anyone know an X app that lets me find out the font an app is using?
[09:30] <mattwj2002> okay
[09:30] <mattwj2002> cool
[09:30] <mattwj2002> :D
[09:30] <suma> rakudave: my usb-mouse shows up as "Bus 002 Device 005: ID 058f:6387 Alcor Micro Corp. Transcend JetFlash Flash Drive" but after i plugged out the usb also it shows
[09:30] <DeadDrive> Just remembered I'm going to have to do some data retrieval on my failed HDD since all my wife's pictures are on there
[09:31] <DeadDrive> Blah, doing a bunch of compiz updates right now. Like I can even use compiz with my ati rage pro x3
[09:31] <rakudave> suma: have a look at "dmesg" which should report plugging and unplugging events together with the brand of the device
[09:32] <suma> how to look that
[09:32] <edvard1> DeadDrive: I got you beat: a nVidia Riva TNT2
[09:32] <rakudave> suma: in a terminal
[09:32] <Naisel> sume is (dmesg | less)
[09:33] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, have you tried?
[09:33] <DeadDrive> Tried what?
[09:33] <DeadDrive> pulling the pictures?
[09:33] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, running compiz on that atique
[09:33] <DeadDrive> Ya, it failed
[09:33] <suma> Naisel: i type the command in terminal then
[09:34] <fouvy> hello
[09:34] <DeadDrive> My 8 megs of video memory don't cut it.
[09:34] <gordonjcp> !wx egpf
[09:34] <gordonjcp> oops
[09:35] <quibbler> Shock: system-preferences-appearance-fonts
[09:35] <suma> rakudave: dmesg give a lot of information i cant understand
[09:36] <rakudave> suma: just look at the last entry after you've unplugged the drive
[09:37] <DeadDrive> Found my ESS chip pretty easily. So if I have to hand install it shouldn't be to hard.
[09:38] <Naisel> suma after that look for your error
[09:38] <DeadDrive> Is it a bad thing to have cobwebs on your heatsink :)
[09:38] <edvard1> :D
[09:38] <gordonjcp> DeadDrive: there are worse things to have on your heatsink
[09:39] <edvard1> i get out the electric leaf blower for that
[09:39] <gordonjcp> DeadDrive: prawns, for example
[09:39] <smultron> i'm doing a `dd` copy to a USB2 flash drive... it's only going 300KB/s... doesn't that seem slow?
[09:39] <gordonjcp> there's a story behind that
[09:39] <DeadDrive> Man, I can't wait to get rid of this heap.
[09:39] <Titan8990> smultron, dd is slow
[09:39] <Titan8990> smultron, but effective
[09:39] <DeadDrive> If my W2's from New Orleans would ever get here.
[09:39] <gordonjcp> smultron: what's the exact string that you used?
[09:39] <Titan8990> smultron, usually not recommended for very large drives
[09:39] <kkb110> Hi , Q. It seems Pulseaudio doesn't save volume configuration. While alsactl store/restore works and can control Pulseaudio volume setting, how to fix this?.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> so is usb, get firewire :)
[09:40] <Ravenor> DeadDrive, Any luck?
[09:40] <Titan8990> kkb110, you can add the restore command to your gnome sessions
[09:40] <gordonjcp> DeadDrive: compressed air is good, but garage tyre compressor lines tend to spit out lots of rusty water
[09:40] <gordonjcp> pulseaudio is utter utter fail
[09:40] <rww> smultron: you probably want to use the bs= argument to dd. Speeds things up a lot. e.g., sudo dd if=something of=something bs=1M
[09:40] <kkb110> Titan8990 Yes, that might be the easiest solution, but I wondered if there is cleaner way to do that :)
[09:41] <smultron> Titan8990: sudo dd if=Downloads/linux-2008.06-core-i686.img | pv | dd of=/dev/disk2
[09:41]  * edvard1 high-fives gordonjcp
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> gordonjcp: +1 there dude
[09:41] <kavitha> u r frm which place? me working in manipal
[09:41] <gordonjcp> smultron: you're copying one byte at a time
[09:41] <smultron> oh my
[09:41] <gordonjcp> smultron: that's going to be *slooooooow*
[09:41] <DeadDrive> Was going to build a box around a q6600, but for the same price I can get a Phenom II 90
[09:41] <smultron> that doesn't sound good
[09:41] <gordonjcp> smultron: try what rww said ;-)
[09:41] <dmphotography> Titan8990: Were you able to identify that program?
[09:41] <DeadDrive> err 920
[09:41] <smultron> gordonjcp: ok
[09:41] <dmphotography> I've searched for the System Monitor, but I don't see it.
[09:41] <Ravenor> DeadDrive, Q8300.
[09:42] <suma> kavitha: i'm from chennai
[09:42] <Titan8990> dmphotography, sorry which program?
[09:42] <dmphotography> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=93996&d=1227557141
[09:42] <dmphotography> It's on the left in that pic.
[09:42] <DeadDrive> Rav, got the new drive installed and 8.10. Having sound issues though. Waiting for 245 updates to run before I screw with it
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: system monitor in what sense?
[09:42] <Titan8990> dmphotography, thats the gnome system monitor
[09:42] <smultron> hm, "dd: bs: illegal numeric value"
[09:42] <dmphotography> How do I find it?
[09:43] <dmphotography> Or access it.
[09:43] <gajop> hello, any place one can edit in which order daemons boot, and which daemons will start on boot time?
[09:43] <Titan8990> smultron, I am not familur with the command you are piping through, what does it do?
[09:43] <smultron> it shows the progress
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: what exactly do you wish to monitor?
[09:43] <Titan8990> gajop, rc-update in most distros.... ubuntu is something different
[09:43] <smultron> i'll try taking it out
[09:43] <quibbler> dmphotography: system-administration-system monitor
[09:44] <rww> gajop: install the package "bum" and use System > Administration > BootUp Manager
[09:44] <gajop> thank you!
[09:44] <dmphotography> Oh gosh dang.
[09:44] <Ono> hi everyone
[09:44] <dmphotography> That was easy.
[09:44] <Titan8990> for my own knowledge what is ubuntu equivelent of rc-update?
[09:44] <Guest60775> where are you from ? ^
[09:44] <smultron> Titan8990: yeah, still got illegal numeric value... do i just put a byte-size? no 'M', perhaps?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> !bum | Titan8990
[09:44] <quibbler> dmphotography: ya if you know
[09:44] <rww> Titan8990: update-rc.d, perhaps?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> Titan8990: you can use rc-update too
[09:45] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip1, rww thanks guys
[09:45] <dmphotography> quibbler: Yeah, no joke.  A major pain in the butt to find if you don't.
[09:46] <DeadDrive> Speaking of processors, time for my weekly check of newegg on the off chance the i7 920's gone down $100 bucks with a $150 MB to go with it
[09:46] <quibbler> dmphotography: i experience the same pain man
[09:46] <rww> !ot
[09:46] <suma> kavitha:meet u later i leave here now
[09:47] <kisiel99> I have question
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | kisiel99
[09:47] <dmphotography> I'm feeling much better about Linux than when I started though.
[09:47] <DeadDrive> Anyone else have transmission just up and stop working one day?
[09:48] <dmphotography> I was about to rip my hair out at first.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: its got better over the years, just like all other OSes
[09:48] <rww> DeadDrive: Yes. I use deluge-torrent instead.
[09:48] <dmphotography> Yeah.
[09:48] <DeadDrive> rww, that's what I did too.
[09:48] <dmphotography> But for an avid Windows user, I haven't seen a command prompt since MS DOS.
[09:48] <DeadDrive> deluge is pretty nice.
[09:49] <kisiel99> why bmp (musick program)doesnt play when wine run already?
[09:49] <quibbler> dmphotography: one of the benefits is the people here...very helpful
[09:49] <DeadDrive> dmp, never used ipconfig? msconfig?
[09:49] <dmphotography> So going back to that took some re-freshing.
[09:49] <gajop> what's the name of the ubuntu "sound" daemon, i think i'm using alsa for sound, but i don't see it in the daemon manager
[09:49] <dmphotography> Nope, no need to.
[09:49] <kjell> !ot | dmphotography
[09:50] <kisiel99> why bmp (musick program)doesnt play when wine run already?
[09:50] <kjell> !repeat | kisiel99
[09:50] <rww> !repeat | kisiel99
[09:50] <kisiel99> ok thx
[09:51] <Titan8990> gajop, alsa
[09:51] <ari_stress> hi guys, sorry OT: my notebook screen flicks when freshly reboot. is it a bad sign?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> !info bmp
[09:51] <wbagam> nop
[09:51] <kisiel99> are something like this but in polish lanquage?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> kisiel99: is bmp a windows app?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> !polish
[09:52] <dmphotography> So there's no need for an anti-virus on Linux, correct?
[09:52] <gajop> Titan8990: well... seems like there's "alsa-utils" in /etc/init.d/ but, bum doesn't seem to show it, so i can hardly control it
[09:52] <kisiel99> it run in window
[09:52] <kjell> dmphotography: Depends on.
[09:52] <Titan8990> dmphotography, correct
[09:52] <ari_stress> dmphotography: i believe so
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> ari_stress: sounds like a conection issue. my dell used to do that when it was off mains, try asking in offtopic
[09:52] <quibbler> !info bmpx
[09:52] <Titan8990> gajop, its not a daemon, its a module
[09:52] <kjell> dmphotography: Some people like to have antivirus just to avoid spreading windows viruses to their friends.
[09:52] <DeadDrive> !pacckage apparmour
[09:52] <dmphotography> Gotcha.
[09:52] <DeadDrive> !package apparmourr
[09:52] <Titan8990> gajop, drivers are always modules
[09:53] <kjell> dmphotography: But using antivirus to protect yourself should not be needed.
[09:53] <dmphotography> What about things like keyloggers/spyware.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> kisiel99: have you tried reinstalling it? if you ps -ef | grep wine  try killing all wine apps off
[09:53] <Titan8990> dmphotography, they are not "in the wild"
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> Titan8990: not unless they are alread part of the kernel surely?
[09:53] <Titan8990> dmphotography, unless you a running a server that someone wants to directly attack, you have no need to worry about malware in linux
[09:53] <kjell> ActionParsnip1: Whats the difference between ps -ef and ps -e? In the man, it says its the same thing. But is it, really?
[09:54] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip1, well, they can be built-in to the kernel but with initrd they are almost all modules
[09:54] <DeadDrive> Ya, who bothers to code spybots/adware/malware for an OS that only like 5% of the population uses.
[09:54] <dmphotography> Gotcha.  You can't contract it from a browser?
[09:54] <gajop> Titan8990: uhm, okay... but how can i configure it to boot before mpd (music player daemon)? otherwise it just requires me to restart mpd manually, since it can't find a suitable audio device
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> Titan8990: just checking for my own knowledge
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> :D
[09:55] <DeadDrive> Besides Action, if you're not running around as root then the malware can't do much to your system.
[09:55] <dmphotography> Very nice.
[09:55] <Titan8990> gajop, alsa modules start in run level 3, try setting mpd to start in run level 4 or in your gnome session (run level 7)
[09:55] <kisiel99> I woluld like to enjoy sound form wine and bmp at the same time.  Spomethin like sound mix
[09:55] <dmphotography> It's like sex with a dirty girl and no worries about STD's.  I like Linux!
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> DeadDrive: i dont run round as root, I lecture people who do too
[09:56] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip1, initrd allows the kernel to use modular drivers that would typically have to be built in. Its what allows a single OS to work on many different types of hardware
[09:56] <DeadDrive> Sorry, was responding to the wrong person :)
[09:56] <DeadDrive> That should have been for dmp
[09:56] <gajop> okay, since bum sucks (doesn't work), is there any other daemon editor?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> Titan8990: oh im aware of all that stuff, just checking that modules can be made part of the kernel but then wont technically be a module
[09:57] <gcs8> i hate to be a noob hear but couls dome 1 help me with my ftp problem. i know u all are smart
[09:57] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip1, right
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> gcs8: ask away, wassup
[09:58] <Titan8990> !anyone | gcs8
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> gcs8: we were all noobs once
[09:58] <gcs8> so i got hfs for a ftp but it wont conectt http://gcs8.serveftp.net:13000/
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> gcs8: why not forward port 21 and connect to the ftp service that way?
[10:00] <gajop> Titan8990: where can I change default run level for a daemon? i'm using kubuntu
[10:00] <gcs8> ok 1 sec wile i poke the settings
[10:00] <red-rum> i asked this question earlier : I would like to migrate from an 80 gb IDE drive to a 500 gb SATA.  Both are plugged in and working but I think (wrongly?) that the 500 gb will give better performance. Is there an easy way to move the configuration to the new drive?
[10:00] <kyledr> how do i remove a password from the root account?
[10:00] <Titan8990> gajop, see man rc.update
[10:00] <kyledr> red-rum: dd
[10:00] <Titan8990> wait, that wasn't right
[10:01] <gajop> No manual entry for rc.update :D
[10:01] <Titan8990> sorry guys, one more time, rc-update command for ubuntu
[10:01] <red-rum> dd?
[10:01] <gajop> ;)
[10:01] <rww> Titan8990: update-rc.d ?
[10:01] <Titan8990> gajop, check out man update-rc.d
[10:01] <Titan8990> rww, thanks
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> !bum
[10:01] <gajop> ok :)
[10:01] <kyledr> red-rum: man dd. first fdisk what you're copying to then use dd with both drives plugged in to copy from one to the other
[10:01] <kyledr> red-rum: be careful
[10:01] <edvard1> update-rc.d
[10:01] <edvard1> darn
[10:01] <edvard1> late
[10:02] <red-rum> dd is a command .... okay
[10:02] <red-rum> is it worthwhile? I mean, will the sata drive be faster?
[10:02] <kyledr> red-rum: depends on the rpm
[10:02] <Titan8990> red-rum, sata is considerably faster than pata in general
[10:02] <kyledr> red-rum: probably not worth the risk imo
[10:02] <gcs8> http://gcs8.serveftp.net:13000/ any luck now?
[10:03] <gcs8> http://gcs8.serveftp.net:21
[10:03] <tparcin1> udp-sender - how to send multiple files?
[10:03] <red-rum> it is a 7200 rpm, 3gb/sec
[10:03] <kyledr> how do i remove a root account's password?
[10:03] <Titan8990> red-rum, pata drives usually do 25-45mb/s, new satas do 55-70mb/s
[10:03] <kjell> kyledr: Why remove it?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> gcs8: Access to the port number given has been disabled for security reasons.
[10:03] <kyledr> kjell: security
[10:03] <rubiks> hey any ubuntu gamers in here
[10:03] <Titan8990> kyledr, sudo passwd root -l
[10:03] <kyledr> Titan8990: doesn't that lock the account?
[10:03] <DeadDrive> red-rum: 3gbs is the fastest that can move over sata, not the transfer rate you'll get
[10:03] <rww> !noroot | Titan8990
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> rubiks: i do a bit
[10:04] <kyledr> Titan8990: i heard that can mess up some scripts or programs
[10:04] <red-rum> okay...
[10:04] <tparcin1> I'm trying to send image of partition to several computers. The partition is in several files gz0, gz1... how to send them all thrue udp-sender
[10:04] <Titan8990> kyledr, you want root to not have a password???
[10:04] <kyledr> Titan8990: yes
[10:04] <Titan8990> kyledr, doubt that will be supported here
[10:04] <rww> kyledr: you realize that you can use sudo and gksudo to get administrative access, right?
[10:04] <Titan8990> kyledr, thats asking for trouble
[10:04] <kyledr> you guys don't understand
[10:04] <rubiks> you play any counter strike
[10:04] <kyledr> i already gave root a password
[10:05] <kyledr> now i want to get rid of it
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> rubiks: did up until release 1.0, then it sucked
[10:05] <Titan8990> kyledr, sudo passwd -l
[10:05] <rww> kyledr: so you want it back like it was before you messed it up?
[10:05] <kyledr> doesn't ubuntu not let root have a password to start?
[10:05] <rww> kyledr: then sudo passwd -l
[10:05] <Titan8990> kyledr, sudo passwd root -l
[10:05] <kyledr> rww: well it's not messed up technically, but yeah
[10:05] <kyledr> k
[10:05] <red-rum> so it might be better to leave the 80 gb pata (IDE) drive for Ubuntu and use the 500 gb for files ;-)
[10:05] <Titan8990> red-rum, that works
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> kyledr: the root account is disabled at first install for security, its not needed and its best to leave it alone
[10:06] <Titan8990> red-rum, this time next year we will all be using ext4 anyways
[10:06] <red-rum> true....
[10:06] <edvard1> titan8990: you mean to say ext4 automatically scales?
[10:06] <red-rum> I am eyeing a solid state drive
[10:07] <rubiks> actionparsnip1 well i got CSS and i can play sweet but its locks up could be after 2 mins or could be after 90 mins
[10:07]  * DeadDrive drools
[10:07] <Titan8990> edvard1, no
[10:07] <edvard1> oh
[10:07] <edvard1> i got dizzy there for a second
[10:07] <Titan8990> edvard1, but I have a feeling everyone will be itching to switch when its completely mainstream
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> rubiks: launch CS from terminal, when it crashes, read the output in terminal
[10:07] <red-rum> apparently 120 gb solid state will be coming out soon
[10:07] <durt> kyledr:from what I understand the root password on install is a completely unusable string, you need to investigate how it is originally setup to get it back
[10:07] <smultron> tried a bunch of block sizes... all i'm getting is ~300kB/sec... must be my crumby USB drive :/
[10:08] <red-rum> anyway.... to format the new drive, what command should I use?
[10:08] <edvard1> titan8990: yes, and i'm liking the idea of finally being able to defragment
[10:08] <rubiks> actionparsnip1 nah i have to hit reset button i tryed that
[10:08] <Titan8990> smultron, dd is not a performance oriented command....
[10:08] <smultron> Titan8990: still, is 300kB/sec normal?
[10:08] <Titan8990> smultron, sounds low to me but I have never benchmarked to compare it to
[10:08] <rww> smultron: what's the command you're using?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> rubiks: then find a way to pipe the data to a file, you can also check the appdb for compatibility / tweaks
[10:09] <rubiks> actionparsnip1 yeah sorry u lost me
[10:10] <Titan8990> !appdb | rubiks
[10:10] <smultron> rww: sudo dd if=/Downloads/linux-2008.06-core-i686.img bs=1048576 | pv | dd of=/dev/disk2
[10:10] <Titan8990> smultron, is the pv command benchmarking?
[10:10] <rww> Titan8990: http://linux.die.net/man/1/pv
[10:10] <rww> smultron: try putting the bs= argument on the other dd too.
[10:10] <smultron> yeah, it gives the current transfer speed
[10:10] <smultron> i did that too
[10:10] <rww> smultron: apart from that, I have no idea.
[10:10] <smultron> same result
[10:10] <rubiks> actionparsnip1 ok thanks #winehq on this server
[10:11] <smultron> ok. i'm thinking it might just be the USB drive, then. thanks anyway rww ;)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> rubiks: thats one to hit too, try www.winehq.com and search the apps
[10:12] <pata> Ned help with virutalbox . USB ports is not aktive? I can se them but nott
[10:12] <kexman> hi guys
[10:12] <rubiks> actionparsnip1 yeah i have i did every thing they say installed winetrick ran the pack tuned sound to OSS did it all still no good
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> pata: have you installed guest additions?
[10:12] <kexman> would you recommend Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4 ?
[10:12] <kexman> is it stable ?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> kexman: yeah its fine here
[10:13] <kexman> okay
[10:13] <pata> no
[10:13] <JEEBcz> I never got Anthy to work on KDE4 :3
[10:13] <Titan8990> kexman, that is a iffy subject
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> pata: thats probably why then
[10:13] <JEEBcz> there seemed to be SKIM for it, but I never found any good tutorials for that either :/
[10:13] <Titan8990> kexman, many will stay say even with the 4.2 release, kde 4 should still be a dev build
[10:13] <david00> Hi all
[10:14] <david00> I'm seeing entries in my syslog like the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116396/
[10:14] <pata> ok how do i that ?
[10:14] <david00> It looks like cron is being run twice
[10:14] <david00> Anyone know why this is?  There's only one entry in the crontab
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> pata: also make sure your usb ports are enabled in the vbox settings
[10:14] <pata> I am from sweden.. dont writ so good in english
[10:15] <pata> The are
[10:15] <kexman> Titan8990: hmmm yeah ? so you say its better to use the old stable kde ?
[10:15] <rww> !se | pata
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> pata: fire up the virtual box and look for devices at the top of the window
[10:15] <Titan8990> kexman, I would consider it a preference
[10:15] <kexman> Titan8990: i want to install it for someone who never used linux :)
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> pata: failing that, just find the iso manually and mount it in the vbox
[10:15] <Titan8990> kexman, if you want bleeding edge at the potential cost of stability, go with kde 4
[10:15] <Titan8990> kexman, otherwise, kde 3.5
[10:16] <casehenry> Kde 4 is nice
[10:16] <kexman> nope i guess stability is most utter
[10:16] <Titan8990> kexman, then 3.5 i would say
[10:16] <casehenry> but it can be a bit clunky
[10:16] <pata> ok.
[10:17] <DeadDrive> Time to reboot, keeping my fingers crossed this fixes my audio issues.
[10:18] <jedfox> I have some problem with flash in firefox. I have been tried fix it but failed.
[10:18] <kexman> what does clunky mean ? :)
[10:18] <Titan8990> kexman, windows-like
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> jedfox: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:19] <kexman> aaa that is good :))
[10:19] <kexman> Titan8990: in what way ? :)
[10:19] <pata> ok thanks.. I shell tried that
[10:19] <kindofabuzz> if i compile some source and then make install, but need to recompile it, is there anything i need to do to get rid of what's installed already? or will it just overwrite?
[10:20] <casehenry> kexman, slow to expand windows/plasmoids
[10:20] <kindofabuzz> and do i need to redownload the source? or can i run make clean?
[10:20] <kexman> casehenry: aaa not good
[10:20] <casehenry> kindofabuzz: make clean won't help
[10:20] <kexman> downloading old kde
[10:21] <casehenry> kindofabuzz: if you're compiling from source you can usually tell it where to install to
[10:21] <kindofabuzz> casehenry, so just redownload the source and compile it again? i don't need to remove anything?
[10:22] <casehenry> kindofabuzz: if you put it somewhere other than the default /usr/bin then you won't have any trouble removing it
[10:22] <zloog> So I is there a way to make sure that a regular expression is strictly evaluated?
[10:22] <zloog> whoops
[10:22] <zloog> wrong chat
[10:23] <kindofabuzz> casehenry, when i ran make install i just let it do it's thing. but i nee to compile again because i forgot a library. i'm asking do i need to uninstall anything first?
[10:24] <DeadDrive> no joy
[10:24] <DeadDrive> !alsa
[10:24] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, :(
[10:25] <DeadDrive> sound prefs were all auto-detect
[10:25] <DeadDrive> changed them all to alsa now
[10:26] <anij> .
[10:32] <guckle> Ok i have  a laptop with no CD drive i want to install ubuntu on. i have an old HD with an ubuntu install on it that obviously wont boot properly into X , but i can get to a shell
[10:32] <guckle> is there any way to "reset" the system to make it work with this new laptops hardware ?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> guckle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:34] <guckle> thanks ill try that
[10:34] <kjell> When running top I see that Xorg runs under root. Is this acceptable?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> kjell: not really, what username do ou log in as?
[10:35] <kjell> ActionParsnip1: Not root
[10:35] <crdlb> kjell: that's perfectly normal
[10:35] <DeadDrive> ok, i can bring up the mix er noww
[10:35] <kjell> crdlb: Perfect. Thanks.
[10:36] <Titan8990> kjell, my X and xorg is running as root and I launched X via startx as a regular user
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> crdlb: my Xorg is running by me
[10:36] <Titan8990> kjell, I would say its normal
[10:36] <crdlb> kjell: although plans are in place to make X run as a user in the future (by moving more stuff to the kernel)
[10:37] <kjell> That sounds just great.
[10:37] <pata> Någon från sverige här ?
[10:37] <crdlb> ActionParsnip1: are you sure? :)
[10:37] <kjell> !se | pata
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> crdlb: what the process name so we are clear
[10:38] <crdlb> ActionParsnip1: X
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> crdlb: ahhhh
[10:39] <crdlb> or possibly Xorg, depending on what's starting it
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> crdlb: root     11035  5582  1 Feb09 tty7     00:11:48 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-CVZsLW
[10:39] <pata> Kjell!!   Är ny på detta
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> crdlb: i though he meant Xorg which is just returning my grep...damn
[10:42] <quibbler> pata: type   /join #ubuntu-se
[10:44] <kjell> !ntop
[10:46] <DeadDrive> think i may have this working
[10:46] <DeadDrive> gotta reboot
[10:48] <jeanfrancois> bonjour
[10:48] <dmphotography> Quick question, is /conf.d/ the default folder for Aliases for Apache?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> !fr
[10:48] <jeanfrancois> je viens d'installer linux pour la premiere fois , je le decouvre
[10:48] <ikonia> !fr | jeanfrancois
[10:48] <jeanfrancois> pas facile
[10:48] <Titan8990> dmphotography, /etc/apache2/sites-available
[10:48] <ikonia> jeanfrancois: #ubuntu-fr
[10:48] <dmphotography> Oh, gotcha.
[10:49] <Titan8990> dmphotography, symlink them to sites-enabled to enable them
[10:49] <dmphotography> Ok.  I just noticed the phpmyadmin alias was defined in the conf.d folder and I wasn't sure.
[10:49] <dmphotography> I thought the sites-enabled was for the Virtual Hosts
[10:50] <Titan8990> dmphotography, conf.d is usually used in other distros
[10:50] <Titan8990> dmphotography, it is for virtualhosts but the vhost configs will contain the alias for each vhost
[10:50] <dmphotography> Ok, I got ya.
[10:51] <piti__> Hi, I'm a software programmer but lately I'm interested in building hardware. I want to build something as easy(?) as a usb device with an led in which I can write a program to control the light...can anyone tell me where to start?
[10:51] <dmphotography> Oh, one thing I was curious about Linux, what is the purpose of sockets?
[10:51] <Titan8990> dmphotography, but im pretty sure phpmyadmin just drops its rootdir in /var/www and its ready to go at localhost/phpmyadmin (unless you are using gentoo....)
[10:51] <Titan8990> dmphotography, socket = port
[10:51] <ikonia> piti__: this channel is for #ubuntu operating system support you may want to google for hardware discussion groups and docs
[10:51] <dmphotography> I noticed they still use ports, so why also sockets?
[10:51] <Titan8990> dmphotography, they are basically synonimous(sp)
[10:52] <DeadDrive> score
[10:52] <kjell> !ifstat
[10:52] <DeadDrive> we have audio
[10:52] <Titan8990> DeadDrive, congrats
[10:53] <dmphotography> If they're synonymous, then why are there two?
[10:53] <dmphotography> At first I was under the impression sockets was Linux's version of Window's Ports, but that's not the case.
[10:54] <DeadDrive> ya, windows uses sockets too
[10:54] <dmphotography> Oh, I've never seen it mentioned . . .
[10:54] <madhu> any one having any idea about the ettercap
[10:54] <madhu> for sniffing
[10:54] <dmphotography> Yeap.
[10:55] <dmphotography> It's detected.
[10:55] <DeadDrive> i haven't played with it much
[10:55] <Titan8990> dmphotography, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_domain_socket
[10:55] <madhu> how to sniff the things actually using ettercap ?
[10:55] <dmphotography> You use ARPPoisoning and with SSL certificates commonly used nowadays, it throws up red flags.
[10:56] <Titan8990> madhu, do you have permission to sniff on the network?
[10:56] <Titan8990> madhu, or own the network
[10:56] <madhu> hmmm i gottch,,,but for ARP Poising we have to edit /etc/fstab ?
[10:56] <madhu> i have permission
[10:56] <Titan8990> madhu, fstab has absolutly nothing to do with networking whatsever
[10:56] <dmphotography> He can't ARP poision without them knowing.
[10:57] <dmphotography> Search http://hackforums.net on it.
[10:57] <Titan8990> madhu, http://forums.remote-exploit.org/showthread.php?t=99
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> Titan8990: it can mount shared drives on a network....
[10:57] <dmphotography> There's a good tutorial on there somewhere showing how to do it.
[10:57] <madhu> and one more thing,,,,any one know about netbios-ssn  (or) netbios-ds ?,,,,,,,,something like that
[10:57] <Titan8990> dmphotography, he can if we configures a bridge
[10:57] <dmphotography> ??  What?
[10:58] <Titan8990> dmphotography, when you poison the arp you can configure it bridge that connection back to the ap
[10:58] <Titan8990> dmphotography, so it doesn't halt all internet traffic on the network
[10:58] <dmphotography> Oh, very nice.
[10:58] <Titan8990> dmphotography, it can still be detected, but not as easily
[10:58] <dmphotography> Yeah, when I tested it on my LAN, my browser threw a fit.
[10:59] <DeadDrive> ok, installing all the restricted extras and flash now
[10:59] <madhu> i thought it can halt the internet traffic,,,,and killed all the PID
[10:59] <Titan8990> dmphotography, yes, you have to configre a tun interface and use bridged sniffing in ettercap
[10:59] <madhu> pid's
[10:59] <Titan8990> madhu, it will halt traffic using that guide I posted
[11:00] <Titan8990> madhu, but it won't kill pid's on a remote machine
[11:00] <dmphotography> Yeah, I couldn't ever find any good information on how to do all of that.  I learned how to use aircrack-ng to crack WEP networks and that's pretty much it.
[11:00] <ChrisW> hey all, I'm looking to make the shell that comes with Ubuntu behave as much like Putty as possible, is there a how-to for this?
[11:00] <dmphotography> I wanted to learn packet sniffing, but never could find any support oin it.
[11:00] <Titan8990> ChrisW, install putty....
[11:00] <madhu>  redir_command_on = "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i %iface -p tcp --dport %port -j REDIRECT --to-port %rport"
[11:00] <madhu>    redir_command_off = "iptables -t nat -D PREROUTING -i %iface -p tcp --dport %port -j REDIRECT --to-port %rport"
[11:00] <ChrisW> doesit run on linux?
[11:00] <madhu> something like this,,, in /etc/etter.conf ?
[11:00] <Titan8990> ChrisW, yes, there is a linux putty
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: the shell can do anything putty can and more
[11:01] <Titan8990> madhu, no, those are iptables rules, they do not go in a config file
[11:01] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip1: indeed, so I'd prefer to stay with it, but there are some key features that I want to be putty-like ;-)
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: like what, maybe we can advise
[11:02] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip1, putty does make it easier to set up a ssh tunnel
[11:02] <O__o> why do u need putty in linux?
[11:02] <ChrisW> specifically, I want to have selecting text copy it to the clipboard
[11:02] <ChrisW> I also want to be able to paste with a right-click
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: terminal can do that
[11:02] <madhu> TItan8990 ,,,,have u been fa,iliar with ettercap ...
[11:02] <madhu> means sniffing kind
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: oic
[11:02] <Titan8990> madhu, yes, I am familiar with ettercap
[11:03] <ChrisW> are either of those two possible?
[11:03]  * stardux hi all
[11:03] <kjell> hi
[11:03] <Kiabo> hi
[11:03] <O__o> ChrisW, Ctrl+insert = copy, Shift+insert = paste
[11:03] <madhu>  etter cap,,,,after unified sniffing ,,,i got something like packtes are tranferred from my ip to other guest ip
[11:04] <madhu> Titan8990,,,it showed something like ,,,netbios-ssn
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: you can copy to the clipboard fine from terminal, the right click thing im not sure of
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: but if you wanna use putty its there
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> !info putty
[11:04] <Titan8990> madhu, netbios is broadcast and doesn't need to be sniffed....
[11:04] <ChrisW> O__o: yes, and I don't like those mappings, I want to change them...
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: just seems a bit pointless imho
[11:05] <O__o> ChrisW, why?
[11:05] <O__o> ctrl+insert and shift+insert are the best
[11:05] <ChrisW> O__o: because I use Putty a *lot*, and having to re-train myself is not an option
[11:05] <Titan8990> ChrisW, you can also use ctrl+shift+v and ctrl+shift+c
[11:05] <ChrisW> Linux is supposed to allow you to configure these things ;-)
[11:05] <madhu> Titan8990 ,,,, i thought some one is using my ip instead of his ip,,,, it's malfunction
[11:06] <O__o> i dont see diff between putty and terminal
[11:06] <ChrisW> Titan8990: yes, doing a mouse action and then holding three keys down is obviously much easier that just doing 1 mouse action ;-)
[11:06] <O__o> putty is just a clone of terminal
[11:06] <madhu> Titan8990,,,because when i typed the destination ip from the ettercap ,,,it opened the web site which i never opened
[11:06] <Titan8990> ChrisW, you can paste in the terminal with mouse 3 as well
[11:06] <ChrisW> O__o: in putty, copy is done just by selecting text, paste is done just by right clicking
[11:06] <madhu> Titan8990,,,he is using mine
[11:06] <O__o> ChrisW, u can copy by highlight
[11:06] <ChrisW> Titan8990: I hate mouse 3, since I have a 2 button kourse
[11:06] <O__o> then middle click is paste
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> O__o: theres some quirks but it comforts ex windows users with a familiar GUI
[11:07] <ChrisW> O__o: how do I copy by highlight?
[11:07] <Titan8990> ChrisW, xorg can emulate a 3rd mouse button
[11:07] <chriz> #mplayer
[11:07] <madhu> Titan8990.,,,,he is doing malfunction in the name of my ip address
[11:07] <O__o> ChrisW, just highlight the text then middle click to paste
[11:07] <Titan8990> madhu, I don't understand....
[11:07] <Titan8990> madhu, you said you were doing unified sniffing
[11:07] <ChrisW> Titan8990: okay, but how do I reconfigure nautlius to just use button 2 instead of button 3?
[11:07] <Titan8990> madhu, so arp points to your machine
[11:07] <O__o> ChrisW, i thought the highlight and middle click are standard in linux
[11:07] <madhu> Titan8990,,,,,yes
[11:07] <Titan8990> madhu, and that is where internet traffic stops
[11:07] <ChrisW> O__o: yes, and I *hate* middle click
[11:08] <ChrisW> how do I change that?
[11:08] <O__o> wtf diff between middle click and right click?
[11:08] <ChrisW> cool, okay, so highlight does work
[11:08] <madhu> Titan8990,,, okay i understood it better now
[11:08] <prima> gas
[11:08] <ChrisW> O__o: I have a 2 button mouse, so "middle click" equates to simultaneously trying to click both buttons at once, which causes problems...
[11:08] <O__o> except when u have 2 button mouse
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> old skool
[11:09] <O__o> get a proper mouse
[11:09] <ChrisW> right, *all* my mice are 2 button
[11:09] <ChrisW> O__o: get a life
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> O__o: its one more than a mac ;)
[11:09] <wet-kun> I'm trying to install ubuntu hardy in my laptop, but it freezes at 3% while loading linux kernel. what should i do?
[11:09] <ChrisW> how do I reconfigure whatever-it-is-that-looks-for-middle-click to look for a right click instead?
[11:09] <O__o> ChrisW, u still living in the 80s?
[11:09] <ChrisW> and what does right-click do by default?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> O__o: mac users dont like choice, hnce 1 mouse button
[11:10] <O__o> i thought mac user use the newest wheel mouse
[11:10] <Roq> The mac mouse can right click for ages
[11:11] <O__o> all my mac friends buy the mouse with 3 buttons instead of the one button crappy mouse that came with it
[11:11] <ChrisW> okay, none of which is helping me ;-)
[11:11] <O__o> ChrisW, install windows and run putty if u insist using crappy mouse
[11:12] <O__o> crappy mouse + crappy OS + putty is awesome
[11:12] <ActionParsnip1> or grab a cheapo mouse with buttons etc
[11:12] <ChrisW> O__o: wow, what a prize tool you are...
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: haha
[11:13] <ChrisW> "oh, I can't help you solve your problem because I don't know the answer, so I'll just insult you instead"
[11:13] <ChrisW> nice
[11:13] <ChrisW> get a life
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> keep it civil
[11:13] <ChrisW> yes, O__o, keep it civil
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> both
[11:14] <dmphotography> What is the start/stop/restart commands for MySQL Server?
[11:14] <Titan8990> dmphotography, /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: probably something in /etc/init.d
[11:14] <ikonia> dmphotography: dont forget sudo
[11:14] <guckle> action wow it actually worked
[11:14] <guckle> that and an fsck
[11:14] <guckle> thanks
[11:14] <ikonia> ChrisW: drop the attitude and name calling now
[11:15] <guckle> was about to do a net install
[11:15] <ChrisW> ikonia: er, yeah, ok... so read the conversation before passing judgement
[11:15] <guckle> which would have been fun too
[11:15] <guckle> ill get a chance some day
[11:15] <ikonia> ChrisW: your not listening - drop the name calling and attitude now.
[11:15] <guckle> ;)
[11:15] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip1: the one thing I miss from RHEL was the service command... what benefit is there from typing /etc/init.d/watever?
[11:16] <madhu> and at last i ask you something like,,,can you name any tool in ubuntu,,, except iptables,tcpdump,wireshark,,,so that i can determine who is doing malfunction with my PC ?
[11:16] <ChrisW> ikonia: okay, so maybe you can help me rather than just berating me for reacting to someone being offensive?
[11:16] <ikonia> ChrisW: I'd be happy to look at your problem if you can drop that attitude your still showing
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: thats where services are managed (e.g. sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop) etc
[11:16] <ChrisW> how do I map "middle click" to "right click", since I only have a 2 button mouse?
[11:16] <Titan8990> madhu, define "malfunction"
[11:16] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip1: yeah, but tab completion for it sucks ;-)
[11:17] <DeadDrive> Crap, I have to be up for work in 7 hours.
[11:17] <madhu> some one is trying to use my system,,,,
[11:17] <DeadDrive> Night
[11:17] <Milkeh> does anybody know how I turn automatic download off firefox?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: should be fine, maybe your tabbing is weird
[11:17] <ChrisW> Milkeh: you mean from synaptic or from within Firefox itslef?
[11:17] <ikonia> ChrisW: look at invoke-rc.d that is the ubuntu version of service
[11:17] <Titan8990> madhu, how?
[11:17] <madhu> security leak ,,,in case of networking
[11:17] <Milkeh> ChrisW, Firefox itself
[11:18] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip1: well no, "service" completes fine, but /etc/init stops there because of "init.d/          initramfs-tools/" ;-)
[11:18] <Titan8990> madhu, what network service do you think is being exploited? what do you plan to do about it? do you own the network?
[11:18] <ChrisW> Milkeh: preferences menu
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: its /etc/init.d
[11:18] <ChrisW> but why would you want to stop it?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: stab in a period and hit tab = winner
[11:18] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip1: yes, and it doesn't tab complete because of initramfs-tools ;-)
[11:18] <ikonia> or use invoke-rc.d
[11:19] <ChrisW> ActionParsnip1: indeed, which is what I was complaining about ;-) tab completion for it is slightly annoying compare to tab completion for "service"
[11:19] <Milkeh> ChrisW, not there
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> ChrisW: yes but the perid will make it not match initramfs-tools won't it, then it will go to init.d
[11:19] <madhu> i have Firestarter running,,,even though it looks strange if i look at the wireshark capturing interfaces at eth0 ,,,, then packets are heavily tranferrred from ip and recieved ,,,even though i don't use any kind of Internet services
[11:19] <Titan8990> ChrisW, you could set is env variable so you only have to do something like: $a/mysql restart
[11:19] <ikonia> invo [tab] works fine
[11:20] <madhu> TItan8990,,, i have Firestarter running,,,even though it looks strange if i look at the wireshark capturing interfaces at eth0 ,,,, then packets are heavily tranferrred from ip and recieved ,,,even though i don't use any kind of Internet services
[11:20] <durt> madhu: from what ip addresses?
[11:20] <ChrisW> Milkeh: Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Update
[11:20] <ChrisW> why do you want to disable it?
[11:21] <madhu> my ip is kept static,,,,
[11:21] <Titan8990> madhu, wireshark is an advanced packet analyzation tool, there is nothing that will provide you with more information
[11:21] <ChrisW> Titan8990: yeah, I guess I could call it $service ;-)
[11:21] <ChrisW> or just have a shell script that did "/etc/init.d $1 $2" and call it service ;-()
[11:21] <durt> madhu: what ip are the packets coming from?
[11:22] <Titan8990> ChrisW, I do the same for my web root dir which is overly long in gentoo: /var/www/localhost/htdocs
[11:22] <Titan8990> ChrisW, yes and you can also make a custom path that contains symlinks to the /etc/init.d but it may not work with some services
[11:23] <ChrisW> Titan8990: why wouldn't it?
,,,,the ip which are commming from the unknown sites which i never opened in my browser,,,,so some one is using my ip,,,i don't know how,,, is it the guy who have the admin password can have better control over that
[11:23] <linuxmce> hello
[11:23] <madhu> admin password of the server
[11:23] <madhu> ?
[11:23] <linuxmce> anyone know how to switch off DHCP server from kubuntu
[11:24] <ActionParsnip1> madhu: sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd stop  most likely
[11:24] <ikonia> linuxmce: disable the dhcpd service in /etc/init.d with update-rc.d
[11:25] <ikonia> linuxmce: or as ActionParsnip1 stop it on a temporary basis
[11:25] <madhu> most likely,,,what ?
[11:25] <Milkeh> ChrisW, it's all updated already
[11:25] <Titan8990> ChrisW, because some are wierd about it... some services will not start properly if you do: cd /etc/init.d    then  ./service start    they require the absolute path
[11:25] <madhu> ActionParsnip1,,,, Most like what ?
[11:25] <Milkeh> ChrisW, it just automaticly opens files
[11:25] <Titan8990> ChrisW, I couldn't tell you why but that is how it is
[11:26] <mib_72urbwl2> think this is right place to search help with ubunt?
[11:26] <mib_72urbwl2> *ubuntu
[11:26] <ChrisW> Milkeh: er?
[11:26] <linuxmce> how to disable it completely
[11:26] <ikonia> linuxmce: I told you
[11:26] <dmphotography> One last thing, where does MySQL store the database files?
[11:27] <ikonia> dmphotography: look in /etc/my.cnf for your database file location
[11:27] <Milkeh> ChrisW, about firefox automaticly opening/downloading files
[11:27] <ChrisW> and? what's the problem with that?
[11:27] <mib_72urbwl2> just installed 8.10 and updated it but now i can't use wired connection. wired worked when i updated but now it can't get connection. tried multiple wires but nothing
[11:28] <fw1> is there a way to set the language from grub?
[11:28] <dmphotography> ikonia: I mean the actual databases.
[11:28] <dmphotography> ikonia: The database data files.
[11:28] <ikonia> dmphotography: yes, I'm telling you
[11:28] <madhu> mib_72urbwl2,,,, check out /etc/resolv.conf
[11:28] <ikonia> dmphotography: its /etc/mysql/my.cnf sorry
[11:28] <susscorfa> is anyone aware of a good RDF(s) editor?
[11:29] <Jaan|Perfect> hi all
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> madhu: most likely to be the command i gave. Chek in /etc/init.d
[11:29] <Jaan|Perfect> good evening
[11:29] <susscorfa> with valitation and code completion
[11:29] <madhu> okay thankx
[11:29] <madhu> RDF(s) in Ubuntu ?
[11:29] <susscorfa> yes madhu
[11:30] <dmphotography> ikonia: That is the MySQL configuration file.
[11:30] <Jaan|Perfect> i would like to try live cd, and i am interested in which version shpuld i download, i am planning to download through utorrent
[11:30] <ikonia> dmphotography: re-read what I said
[11:30] <erUSUL> Jaan|Perfect: last versin 8.10 intrepid ibex
[11:30] <Titan8990> dmphotography, you have to use mysqldump to create .sql file from your database
[11:30] <dmphotography> ikonia: I'm referring to the databases.  For example, if I create phpBB as a new database, where does it store the database files for that database at?
[11:31] <ikonia> dmphotography: look IN the /etc/mysql.cnf file it will tell you where YOUR database files are
[11:31] <dmphotography> Ok.
[11:31] <ikonia> dmphotography: READ what people are telling you, not what you want to read
[11:31] <rotkeppchen> hey
[11:31] <Jaan|Perfect> i am using a laptop
[11:31] <ikonia> dmphotography: it's /var/lib/mysql - but I was trying to get you to look so you'd know how your database is put togheter
[11:31] <susscorfa> madhu: i like oxygen but that doesn't work for rdf / rdfs
[11:32] <madhu> susscorfa,,,  how you are using RDF in ubuntu ?
[11:32] <Jaan|Perfect> should i download this package ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent  ?
[11:32] <Guest34715> can someone tell me ,if i re-install ubuntu, should i have to again download codecs and updates....?
[11:32] <ikonia> Guest34715: yes
[11:33] <gidna> Hi
[11:33] <Titan8990> Jaan|Perfect, yes but you will likely get better download speeds if you use one of the mirrors
[11:33] <dmphotography> ikonia: Thank you.  Yeah, I found it.  It's the data directory was what I was asking, just forgot what it was called.
[11:33] <madhu> oxygen or Doxygen ?
[11:33] <susscorfa> madhu: i use rdf for writing schemas
[11:33] <gidna> if I'm running a programm on the console... How can I escute an other command?
[11:33] <susscorfa> oxygen propertairy package
[11:33] <durt> Jaan|Perfect: sure, just make sure it's from a trustworthy source
[11:33] <ikonia> gidna: use a different console with ctrl+alt+f2,f3.f4 etc
[11:33] <madhu> ohh okay,,, i gotccha
[11:33] <Titan8990> gidna, you can open a new tab or your could have done the first command like so:   command &
[11:34] <Guest34715> ikonia: is it possible to  save updates on media(cd or dvd) and use it...?
[11:34] <ikonia> Guest34715: easier to re-install it
[11:34] <Jaan|Perfect> Titan8990 | i am downloading from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ , my connection and power are somewhat erratci at times
[11:35] <ikonia> Dick_Head: can you change your nick please
[11:35] <deany> Guest34715, its called Apt On CD
[11:35] <Guest34715> ikonia:k thanx.......
[11:35] <ezerhoden> gidna: like Titan8990 said, using & will give you the prompt back, also using disown will not close the app when/if you close the terminal
[11:35] <Titan8990> Jaan|Perfect, yep, thats the place
[11:35] <Guest34715> deany: what ..? is it the cmd to save codecs and updates on cd...?
[11:36] <ikonia> !aptoncd > Guest34715
[11:36] <durt> Jaan|Perfect: use a download manager that can resume an interupted download
[11:36] <dmphotography> So Apache on Linux is VERY secure with default settings, especially compared to Windows, right?
[11:36] <Jaan|Perfect> that's why i am using utorrent
[11:36] <Titan8990> dmphotography, that is very distro specific
[11:37] <mib_72urbwl2> just installed 8.10 and updated it but now i can't use wired connection. wired worked when i updated but now it can't get connection. tried multiple wires but nothing
[11:37] <dmphotography> Oh really?  How about on Ubuntu?
[11:37] <Titan8990> dmphotography, my gentoo apache install had root owning the /var/www dir.....
[11:37] <Guest34715> thanx......
[11:37] <adante> hi folks, i'm making a backup of my root partition just incase this gparted livecd resize goes wrong - at the moment i am just cp -Rp /bin /etc /lib /sbin /usr /boot /home /opt /srv /var /vmlinuz /media /opt /root  -- is there anything else i should be doing?
[11:37] <ikonia> dmphotography:as secure as any OS dependong on how YOU set it up and YOU maintain it
,,, this may help you http://inkdroid.org/journal/tag/rdf/
[11:37] <Titan8990> dmphotography, ubuntu is pretty secure OTB
[11:37] <Jaan|Perfect> Titan8990 | should i write the cd at 8 or 12 x speed
[11:37] <ikonia> adante: I don't advisee using copy command
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> !backup
[11:38] <ikonia> adante: you can look at cp -x and cp -p too for your options, but I suggest you look at a tar and or dd backup if you have space
[11:38] <dmphotography> I'm noticing the permissions are much more stict here than with Windows.
[11:38] <ikonia> adante: or look at the urls ubottu just sent you
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: yes, it makes things more secure
[11:38] <ikonia> dmphotography: thats nonsense, it's a different permissions system
[11:38] <Titan8990> Jaan|Perfect, lower speed gives less chance of fail, really depends on how old your burner is
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: as a user you will rarely access any files outside your own ~
[11:38] <Jaan|Perfect> Titan8990, my burner is brand new
[11:38] <susscorfa> thx madhu ill have a look
[11:39] <deany> adante, easy method is just use clonezilla and backup the partition
[11:39] <Titan8990> Jaan|Perfect, then burn max speed
[11:39] <cdburgess> adante. use tar
[11:39] <Jaan|Perfect> ok
[11:39] <Jaan|Perfect> where do i find moe info about this live cd
[11:39] <dmphotography> What are the most common exploits/attacks made on Apache servers besides vulnerabilities in scripts such as forums, etc?
[11:39] <adante> deany: hm, partition is 750gb, only using 4g atm
[11:39] <Titan8990> Jaan|Perfect, the alternate is an installer, not a livecd
[11:39] <ikonia> dmphotography: read apache.org
[11:39] <ikonia> dmphotography: or use apache support resources
[11:39] <dmphotography> Or the ones you've encountered.
[11:39] <adante> was hoping to avoid a block level copy for this reason
[11:40] <Titan8990> dmphotography, also there is a #apache channel on freenode
[11:40] <deany> adante, thats all it`ll backup.. but will save partition info
[11:40] <adante> would clonezilla avoid copying unnecessary data?
 ,,,not that link sorry about that,,, have a look at this http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-rdf-syntax/
[11:40] <Titan8990> adante, clonezilla will copy everything, it makes images
[11:40] <dmphotography> Right.  I was just curious what you all have encountered if you have/are running an Apache server.
[11:40] <adante> Titan8990: oh ok
[11:41] <cdburgess> adante. try g4l
[11:41] <Titan8990> dmphotography, milw0rm.org
[11:41] <deany> adante, it wont copy 750gig.. it will image the data only
[11:41] <adante> so is there some filesystem level backup i can use? if it goes wrong i can restore the files from another computer by plugging the hdd in, but yeah don't have space to backup 750
[11:41] <Titan8990> dmphotography, there you can read up on all the latest apache exploits
[11:41] <deany> adante, i use it and it doesnt...
[11:41] <Titan8990> dmphotography, as well as acquire the shellcode and use it to pentest your server
[11:41] <adante> deany: hm ok then i'll give it a try
[11:42] <adante> deany: thanks
[11:42] <|HSO|SadiQ> how can I check my filesystem for consistency/errors/etc...my pc crashed...took me 30 mins to boot it up again
[11:42] <deany> adante, i use it to make full disk backup of dualboot
[11:43] <adante> deany: cool
[11:43] <dmphotography> Yeah, I had a hacker show me how to use a shell and root a server . . but an AV program will most likely detect it and remove it.
[11:43] <dmphotography> But they had to have access to upload the file.
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> !info abiword > gcs8
[11:43] <ikonia> dmphotography: not really anything to do with ubuntu, there are better places to chat about this please
[11:44] <SmileDay> How can do convert img => iso?
[11:44] <SmileDay> AceronelSO is no.,...
[11:45] <deany> SmileDay, most of the time it is an ISO
[11:45] <etfb> How do I revert to an older kernel, say 2.6.27-9?  I stupidly apt-get autoremoved the old one, but now I realise -11 has broken a bunch of things that used to work.
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> SmileDay: ccd2iso will do it
[11:46] <SmileDay> no. it is can not...
[11:46] <SmileDay> Error ISO-9660
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> SmileDay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages
[11:47] <deany> mount it and make an iso of it
[11:47] <SmileDay> AH... ccd2iso....
[11:47] <deany> oh, its a clonecd image?
[11:48]  * ActionParsnip1 used a simple websearch
[11:49] <etfb> How do I tell what video driver I'm using right now?
[11:49] <deany> well .img could be anything
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> etfb: lshw -C video
[11:49] <deany> they jsut iso`s when i use em
[11:49] <deany> just*
[11:50] <deany> ActionParsnip1, btw, removing ubuntu-desktop after install xubuntu-desktop, removed everything, even xorg... thankfully its just a vm
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> deany: you dont remove that
[11:51] <deany> quick re-enable of network (it disabled eth0 for some reason).
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> !purexfce | deany
[11:51] <|HSO|SadiQ> how can I check my filesystem for consistency/errors/etc ??
[11:52] <deany> Hmmm.. nevermind
[11:52] <deany> quickly fixed it anyway
[11:52] <deany> |HSO|SadiQ, sudo touch /forcefsck   and reboot
[11:53] <deany> or boot into recovery mode and choose it from the menu
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> deany: nice
[11:53] <deany> It removed php and apache i had setup tho too..  odd
[11:53] <deany> apt is unpredictable at time...
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> deany: its all deps, apt just reads the deps that the packagers specify
[11:54] <etfb> deany: For some reason, the dependencies get really mixed up with those "umbrella" packages.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> !metapackage
[11:55] <etfb> deany: Like, if package "everything-foo" gives you the bar, baz and quux programs, sometimes removing bar will cause it to remove everything.  It's weird.
[11:57] <etfb> Now I want to revert to the bog-standard vesa video drivers, to see if my Radeon drivers are the cause of a couple of problems.  But xorg.conf is a thing of the past (I'm on Kubuntu 8.10).  What do I do?
[11:57] <kapipi> Does anyone know what folders similar to this one ".fr-YRpu3q" in my homedir is?
[11:57] <ikonia> etfb: you can hardcode the driver into xorg.conf
[11:58] <ikonia> kapipi: temporary folder of some sort - maybe messanger etc etc
[11:58] <kapipi> ikonia: I was thining maybe its fileroller's temp files
[11:58] <tavi> where i can find /var/lib/alsa file cause i intend to delete and replace
[11:58] <tavi> ?
[11:58] <kapipi> *thinking
[11:58] <kapipi> ikonia: I wonder why it's not removing them though.
[11:59] <etfb> ikonia: Where, though?  xorg.conf is a shadow of its former self.
[11:59] <SmileDay> installed "automake" pack. but can not "make" command.
[12:00] <ikonia> etfb: put the driver "vesa" line in
[12:00] <ikonia> SmileDay: what are you trying to build and why ?
[12:00] <tom_> how many users are in this channel?
[12:00] <ikonia> tavi: 1300+
[12:00] <Titan8990> !build-essentials | SmileDay
[12:00] <tavi> ?
[12:00] <ikonia> tavi: sorry - not you
[12:01] <SmileDay> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages want ccd2iso
[12:01] <XoroZ> how can I add something to the lunch menu with root privileges? like sudo cmd?
[12:01] <SmileDay> install
[12:01] <ikonia> SmileDay: that already exists in the package manager
[12:01] <neosisani> in ubuntu bluetooth and wireless just stopped working. version is 8.10 and no updates have been done for several days. iwconfig detecsts extension at ath0 and dmesg shows that bluetooth driver is loaded but hcitool doesn't show anything
[12:01] <ikonia> SmileDay: open the package manager and search for ccd2iso and you'll find it already exists and you can just click "install"
[12:02] <SmileDay> oh Thank
[12:02] <tom_> i need a sis163u wlan driver for ubuntu x64
[12:03] <akv> I have just installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a SUN T5120 (UltraSparc T2) - if i check /proc/cpuinfo, i see that is has 64 ncpus, but only one active. No matter how much load i put on it, it will not use more than one CPU...
[12:03] <XoroZ> how can I add something to the lunch menu with root privileges? like sudo cmd?
[12:03] <ikonia> tom_: oooh, sis as a company providers bad support, let me see if I can see anything
[12:03] <LuXor> *NIX Geeks S.O.S, cannot access sites.. the firefox are closing autaomatically
[12:04] <cisto> ciao
[12:04] <LuXor> *NIX Geeks S.O.S, cannot access sites.. the firefox are closing autaomatically
[12:04] <ikonia> LuXor:  ?
[12:04] <LuXor> ikonia: ??
[12:04] <ikonia> LuXor: do you want to ask a question
[12:05] <cisto> per caso qualcuno mi vede?
[12:05] <ikonia> LuXor: do you mean you are having trouble accesing websites through firefox, firefox is crashing ?
[12:05] <LuXor> someone will help?
[12:05] <cisto> ci sono in chat?
[12:05] <ikonia> LuXor: do you mean you are having trouble accesing websites through firefox, firefox is crashing ?
[12:05] <ikonia> cisto: what language do you speak ?
[12:05] <ikonia> !it
[12:06] <Bodsda> on windows you can add folders to the taskbar, so you can quickly open the contents of the folder, does ubuntu offer such functionality?
[12:06] <ikonia> Bodsda: right click on the top bar and use the "add" function
[12:06] <LuXor> ikonia:  yes i want, i cannot access sites
[12:06] <ikonia> LuXor: what happens when you open a site (what site are you trying to open)
[12:07] <Bodsda> ikonia, yeah, but what should i add?
[12:07] <LuXor> ikonia: actually i cant access no local sites, im from georgia...
[12:07] <etfb> Bodsda: I've never done that in Windows, but I suppose it's possible.  Interesting idea.  No idea if it can be done in Gnome, but in KDE I expect it would be easy...
[12:07] <LuXor> ikonia: global are working fine
[12:08] <Bodsda> etfb, its just a useful feature, i require it for having a folder of pdf's quickly accessible,
[12:08] <etfb> LuXor: Georgia the former Soviet republic, or Georgia the home of Coca Cola and lynch mobs?
[12:08] <ikonia> Bodsda: looking...
[12:08] <Bodsda> ikonia, cheers dude
[12:08] <deany> Bodsda, im Gnome and have used that functionality in windows and want the same thing.. sadly its not possible
[12:08] <ikonia> LuXor: can you try to explain that a bit better please
[12:08] <deany> not the way I want it to work anyway
[12:08] <LuXor> etfb: i dont understand
[12:08] <Bodsda> deany, hmm, ok -- i think il have to get my books out and add this feature
[12:09] <etfb> LuXor: Probably the one in northern Europe then...
[12:09] <LuXor> etfb: caucas...
[12:10] <etfb> LuXor: Are you having a problem with Firefox? Does it close suddenly without warning?
[12:10] <LuXor> ikonia: k, here's the deal: i can't just acces sites, the firefox are closing JUST when i am writing a site, when the site is readed by browser firefox are closing itself
[12:10] <LuXor> etfb: i dont know where are a problem
[12:11] <ikonia> LuXor: so as you are typing in the browser address firefox closes ?
[12:11] <sick_kid> vghbb
[12:11] <sick_kid> ubyugu
[12:11] <LuXor> ikonia: yes, after the browser reads and access that site what i have typed
[12:11] <ikonia> sick_kid: what's up ?
[12:11] <ikonia> LuXor: what version of ubuntu ?
[12:11] <LuXor> ikonia: 8.10
[12:11] <Asfi> hi
[12:12] <etfb> LuXor: I had the same problem.  I fixed it by uninstalling winbind.
[12:12] <ikonia> LuXor: what happens if you open a terminal and type "firefox" when it crashes do you see any text
[12:12] <ikonia> etfb: interesting comment
[12:12] <LuXor> etfb: sudo apt-get remove winbind apt-get install winbind?
[12:12] <kjell> !hi | Asfi
[12:12] <etfb> ikonia: Seems to be some kind of bug in the WINS name server lookup (or something like that).
[12:12] <Asfi> who can help me for a question about /etc/fstab ?
[12:12] <kjell> !ask | Asfi
[12:13] <ikonia> Asfi: if you ask it many people maybe able to
[12:13] <etfb> LuXor: Yes - don't reinstall it though, just remove it.
[12:13] <Kenny-bbr> (1) I installed a new HDD in a dual boot environment. Ubuntu recognizes it without problem, but my Vista partition does not load VISTA anymore: it says "BOOTMGR.EXE is missing". Now, it is in my understanding, that i did not change anything to Vista or it's MBR.. Can this be due to GRUB ? Can i do anything to try and regain control of the VISTA-partition(boot it)
[12:13] <LuXor> ikonia: no.. i dont see any text, just closing, no text, no warning, no error
[12:13] <ikonia> LuXor: nothing on the terminal ?
[12:14] <LuXor> ikonia: i'm on XP for now... but i think i would try it from terminal it will not do
[12:14] <LuXor> ikonia: dosent matter ( i think ) :)
[12:14] <ikonia> LuXor: you don't know what your saying, I'm asking you to try that for debugging
[12:14] <etfb> LuXor: If you apt-get remove winbind, you may lose the ability to connect to Windows computers on your network, but if it fixes the Firefox crash then you know it's the cause.
[12:14] <ikonia> LuXor: it does matter - a lot
[12:14] <ikonia> LuXor: that's why I'm asking
[12:15] <Kenny-bbr> (2) btw: i still see BOOTMGR.exe on the partition, so it can't be "missing".. grub is not looking right.. i tried to edit the hd(x,y) but doesn't help
[12:15] <Asfi> I don't know how I can set this : "sudo mount -t smbfs //server/www /media/www -o rw,uid=macsim" into my /etc/fstab. I have test a couple of solution but it never works
[12:15] <LuXor> etfb: so you mean to just remove it?
[12:16] <etfb> LuXor: That is what I did.  Firefox crashed nearly every time I opened a new page.  There were no warnings, no messages.  It even crashed when I reinstalled Firefox and removed the .mozilla directory.  I removed winbind, and the problem went away.
[12:17] <LuXor> etfb: ok i will try dude, thanks a lot :)
[12:17] <alex^^> how can i disable my monitor from going into a "black screen" mode after being idle for 20mins? 8.10 ubuntu - ive already disabled the "screensaver" but its still doing a blackscreen after 20minsish
[12:18] <etfb> If it works, spread the news.  It seems to be a recent bug in winbind that the developers should fix.
[12:18] <RdeWilde> Hello, I'm getting an error, hope someone can help me?  The message says:    " Failed to execute /init . No init found; Try passing 'init=' "  ..
[12:18] <RdeWilde> Actually, I passed it, but it wasn't found, because it's inside of initrd.img ? How can I refer to my init file which is packed inside the image?
[12:19] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: Try: //server/www/ /media/www/ smbfs user=macsim,password=_password_,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0 (I am not sure, so if it doesn't work: remove the line)
[12:19] <SmileDay> Convert from .ISO to .Img(ccd2iso use). but converted files is 0 byte....;;
[12:20] <etoo> etfb
[12:20] <Asfi> ok Kenny-bbr thanks you
[12:20] <SmileDay> Help me
[12:20] <etoo> help you
[12:20] <etoo> ok
[12:21] <SmileDay> Convert from .ISO to .Img(ccd2iso use). but converted files is 0 byte....;;
[12:21] <rodolfo_> I need to get the "# git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm " command working but in order to do that, what package do I need to install? git-core? what...?
[12:22] <LuXor> ikonia, not working
[12:22] <LuXor> etfb, not working
[12:23] <SmileDay> how can .img files mount to VM(VIrtualBox, others..)?
[12:23] <RdeWilde> rodolfo_; Yes..
[12:23] <etfb> LuXor: Bother!
[12:24] <LuXor> etfb, tell me some browser
[12:24] <Asfi> hi, re Kenny-bbr, it's not good
[12:24] <LuXor> etfb, to install it with apt
[12:24] <etfb> LuXor: ???
[12:24] <RdeWilde> Hello, I'm getting an error, hope someone can help me?  The message says:    " Failed to execute /init . No init found; Try passing 'init=' "  ..      It's in my  initrd,  how do I reference to it?
[12:24] <LuXor> etfb, some internet browser packgage to install it, i will try another browser
[12:25] <LuXor> etfb, if it will work it means something are wrong in firefox :)
[12:25] <etfb> LuXor: I don't know what other browsers to install in Ubuntu.  I use Kubuntu, which has Konqueror.
[12:25] <oCean_> LuXor, "arora" is simple cross platform browser
[12:26] <SmileDay> Help set the "VirtualBox Share folders"... Main OS Ubuntu, Virtual OS is WIndows...
[12:26] <LuXor> i was right, something happened to firefox
[12:26] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: did you try a "mount -a" after you changed /etc/fstab ?
[12:26] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: does it output something?
[12:27] <Asfi> I have restart my PC
[12:28] <SmileDay> Please help set "VirtialBox Share folders"(Main is Ubuntu and Virtual is WIndows.)
[12:28] <prodigel> hi all. i have this sd card 4 Gb that won't let itself read for nothing. The photo cam works ok, tried low formatting(on the camera), same result
[12:28] <Asfi> mount -a say /etc/fstab don't have a final line
[12:29] <Asfi> :) it's ok with add a line to my /etc/fstab Kenny-bbr, thanks you for all
[12:30] <DIFH-ice1oot> SmileDay: look at the manuel from virtual box, you have to use "net use" or something like that because the virtual directory is a server on vbox which you must access from windows mit "net use"
[12:30] <SmileDay> Please help set "VirtialBox Share folders"(Main is Ubuntu and Virtual is WIndows.)
[12:30] <SmileDay> oh
[12:30] <LuXor> etfb, the problem was in the cookies LOOL!
[12:30] <rodolfo_> RdeWilde it doesn't work coz nothing happens
[12:30] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: np
[12:31] <etfb> LuXor: Weird!  All fixed now?
[12:31] <LuXor> etfb, yaa :)
[12:31] <bm> ntelligent African boy
[12:31] <etfb> LuXor: Good!  Another happy ending!
[12:32] <rodolfo_> RdeWilde I mean,after that command I should then run the # cd drm command but it tells me it (file or dir) doesn't exist
[12:32] <deany> SmileDay, just navigate with network places
[12:32] <SmileDay> How can I do monut .img file to CD-ROM Drive?
[12:32] <deany> you will see it there.. right click and map it
[12:32] <Kenny-bbr> i asked a question at 13:13 (GMT+1 time).. can anyone take a look into it?
[12:36] <Asfi> but Kenny-bbr  I have an other problem now, I can't make subdir (and file)
[12:37] <etfb> Kenny-bbr: Have you seen this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[12:37] <f3rN> hi everyone!
[12:38] <f3rN> hey, does someone know about a little brother irc channel?
[12:39] <kjell> f3rN: little brother?
[12:39] <etfb> f3rN: You mean the book by Cory Doctorow, or something else?
[12:39] <f3rN> doctorow's book
[12:39] <Kenny-bbr> etfb: i could try the vista command line utility
[12:40] <Kenny-bbr> thx for info, i actually saw this page but didn't spot the CL tool
[12:40] <wbagam> Kenny-bbr, did you try to do a fixmbr?
[12:40] <mrp> I am trying to do a install with network connectivity hower at the "Select and install software" step it just keeps failing, I am assuming because there is no internet
[12:40] <wbagam> or am I chiming in a bit to late?
[12:40] <ikonia> f3rN: not here
[12:40] <f3rN> yeah, i know it is not here
[12:40] <Kenny-bbr> wbagam: not yet.. i am not experienced with mbr
[12:40] <f3rN> but maybe somebody would know 'bout it
[12:41] <ikonia> f3rN: so please don't ask
[12:41] <f3rN> take it easy ikonia
[12:41] <ikonia> f3rN: so please don't ask
[12:41] <Kenny-bbr> fyi: my ubuntu starts perfect, all my data partitions are loaded but my vista doesn't boot
[12:41] <wbagam> fixmbr is pretty simple to use.  the command in vista to modify boot setting is bcdedit.exe if I recall
[12:41] <f3rN> what's wrong with you?
[12:41] <etfb> f3rN: http://tinyurl.com/dgez8f
[12:41] <ikonia> f3rN: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only,
[12:41] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: do a 'ls -l'
[12:41] <ikonia> f3rN: by asking offtopic questions (more so if you shouldn't) you move away from the topic of the channel, please don't ask
[12:42] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: you will probably don't have enough permissions
[12:42] <Wunderbar> is there a way to make kubuntu as user friendly as ubuntu, in the sense that the date and weather appear in the taskbar- which also integrates well with the email client/calendar of your choice?
[12:42] <Asfi> yes
[12:42] <ikonia> Wunderbar: you can customise the kubuntu desktop sure
[12:42] <ikonia> Wunderbar: there are notes on kde-look.org and experienced users in #kubuntu
[12:43] <Wunderbar> thanks ikonia
[12:43] <Wunderbar> appreciated
[12:43] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi try these commands: 'sudo umount /media/www' & 'sudo chown _user_:_group_ /media/www' & 'sudo chmod 777 /media/www'
[12:43] <Kenny-bbr> (change _user_ and _group_ for your situation)
[12:43] <Kenny-bbr> and then 'mount -a' to mount again
[12:44] <etfb> Wunderbar: KDE 4.2 is quite usable, if sometimes a bit flaky.  And all that stuff is customisable in KDE _far more_ than it is in Gnome.
[12:44] <etfb> Wunderbar: Gnome's attitude is that you're a novice who doesn't want to be confused by too many options.  KDE's attitude is that you have infinite time and patience to tweak everything.
[12:44] <Wunderbar> yeah,, Ive been pleasantly surprised by kde, especially in terms of speed
[12:45] <Asfi> but with this : "sudo mount -t smbfs //server/www /media/www -o rw,uid=macsim" I have the permissions :s
[12:45] <Wunderbar> and it looks like it likes to be tweeked, if you know what you're doing
[12:46] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: can you c/p the line from your /etc/fstab ? (please remove the password!!)
[12:47] <Asfi> (I don't have password
[12:47] <Asfi> /server/www/ /media/www/ smbfs user=macsim,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0
[12:47] <benito> ho un problema di risoluzione con il monitor qualcuno mi può aiutare
[12:48] <Wunderbar> ohzie, one problem with kde has been that I can't currently get any sound with smplayer? all the other apps work fine
[12:49] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: can you access /media/www
[12:49] <Kenny-bbr> do you see the contents?
[12:49] <Asfi> yes
[12:49] <Kenny-bbr> hmm ok
[12:49] <Asfi> I can make a dir/file
[12:49] <Asfi> but in this new dir, I can't do anything
[12:50] <Asfi> with fstab, I have this permission on the new dir : "drwxr-xr-x" and with my command I have this ; "drwxrwxr-x"
[12:50] <TehDuffman> is there any way to get ciaro dock to show on just one of my twin view screens?
[12:50] <Kenny-bbr> ok then try: unmounting it, do a chown user:password /media/www/* and a chmod 777 /media/www/*
[12:51] <IsUp> hello!
[12:51] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: there is something missing in /etc/fstab, i am no expert on it, but the main issue is: you don't have WRITE permissions on that subfolder
[12:51] <penela>  I intalled 8.10 and have a laptop with ATI Mobility 9700.  Can I do anything except mirror or span with a dual head display?  I wish to have separate desktops and menus etc on each monitor.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> I dident think think the owndership of a MOUNT POINT. mattered if you mount somthing to that point/directorry. the permissions then are based on what got mounted to it.
[12:51] <Kenny-bbr> perhaps somebody here can improve what i said to you
[12:52] <Asfi> Ok Kenny-bbr
[12:52] <Kenny-bbr> Dr_Willis: i see
[12:52] <Asfi> thanks you for your help ;)
[12:52] <Kenny-bbr> learning new things here
[12:52] <Kenny-bbr> :)
[12:52] <Kenny-bbr> as i mentioned: i am no expert, but i am very eager to learn
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Kenny-bbr:  if ya think it through.. it could be a nasty security issue to do it the other way :)
[12:53] <Dank> hi
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> but Ive missed the original problem. MOunting things in linux - is a VERY well doucmented topic.. with 1000's of web sites  on the topic
[12:53] <aluno1> Ola,
[12:54] <Kenny-bbr> Dr_Willis: the root of the problem is his line /etc/fstab
[12:54] <JEEBcz> what's the recommended virus checker / antivirus for ubuntu?
[12:54] <Kenny-bbr> using that line; he doesn't have permissions W-permissions in folders he creates in the mount point
[12:54] <aluno1> ola
[12:55] <Kenny-bbr> maybe there is a conflict: local user versus mount point user
[12:55] <Kenny-bbr> brb
[12:55] <usser> !antivirus
[12:55] <JEEBcz> thank you, I'll check it out
[12:55] <JEEBcz> mainly there's a need to check new files incoming to the workstation
[12:55] <penela> Can someone offer advice regarding AIT MObility 9700 and Dual Head setup?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !dualhead
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> penela:  i recall seeing it done.. :) but that was ages ago.. i dont have any ati systems any more
[12:59] <penela> Dr_Willis : thanks, but that still refers to fglrxconfig which is no longer as I understand it.
[13:01] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: i suggest looking google or ubuntuforums
[13:01] <adante> hey guys any idea how long resize2fs should take?
[13:01] <Kenny-bbr> for instance: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-2197.html
[13:01] <Kenny-bbr> it is a similair problem
[13:01] <Kenny-bbr> i got to go now, i wish you succes
[13:01] <Asfi> I have found the solution (I am testing)
[13:01] <cakey> sudo success
[13:03] <Asfi> yes it's ok :) I have add this : uid=1000
[13:03] <Kenny-bbr> Asfi: if you find it
[13:03] <Kenny-bbr> can you private message me the /etc/fstab that works
[13:03] <Kenny-bbr> i am very interested
[13:03] <Kenny-bbr> aaah ok, oversaw your last post to the channel :p
[13:03] <Kenny-bbr> great
[13:04] <GodfatherofEir1> Any ideas why my 8.10 install is becoming abnormally slow at startup? I think it has something to do with initializing the multimedia controller
[13:04] <cakey> check services
[13:04] <Asfi> ;)
[13:04] <cakey> admin > services
[13:05] <cakey> try to turn stuff that slows down your PC off
[13:05] <cakey> and check /etc/init.d
[13:05] <cakey> *down
[13:05] <dny> does anyone use netbeans for c++ development? i have some problems with managing different targets...
[13:06] <GodfatherofEir1> Well, how would I turn it off, considering that I'd have to modify startup procedure
[13:07] <Dr_willis> GodfatherofEir1:  i would disable the framebuffer/splash screen to look for any boot time error messages/clues as to whats going on.. If you have not allready done so
[13:09] <imbolc> jah
[13:09] <GodfatherofEir1> Dr_willis, well it doesnt seem to have any errors though, but it just doesnt process, like, what happens, is that it goes to load the multimedia controler, and it takes about 10 seconds to load before it goes to load the other one
[13:09] <lucax> how can i stop pulseaudio from starting in intrepid? i want to use alsa, ive checked in audio configuration and ALSA is checked in every option but pulse is still starting
[13:21] <SmileDay> How can run cdemu-daemon... Help me
[13:21] <Pantung> hey i got a problem, hope some1 can help me
[13:21] <Pantung> [00000462] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[13:21] <Pantung> when i open VLC and i get no sound
[13:21] <Pantung> it worked yestoday
[13:22] <Dango> join #tsiga
[13:22] <SmileDay> How Can I Do Run CDEmu-daemon;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[13:22] <Pantung> got an audio problem [00000462] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[13:23] <Pantung> in VLC trying to play a MKV file, i have checked alsamixer
[13:23] <fosco_> Pantung: oss is a very old sound system, configure vlc to use alsa sound system
[13:24] <xnt> does anyone know how to enable PAE on 8.10?
[13:25] <Dr_willis> !find cdemu
[13:25] <Dr_willis> SmileDay:  tell the channel what that program is  perhaps?
[13:25] <xnt> I already searched
[13:25] <jrib> xnt: desktop or server?
[13:25] <xnt> im on a desktop with 4GB of ram and only 2GB shows up
[13:26] <jrib> xnt: why not use 64bit?  afaik, to enable PAE on the desktop, you'll need to recompile your kernel
[13:26] <Dr_willis> xnt:  i thought that needed either 64bit kernel. or the SERVER kernel that has pae enabled.. so you want the server kernel?
[13:26] <Dr_willis> !pae
[13:27] <xnt> I would but my proc is 32-bit. :(
[13:27] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[13:27] <xnt> I remember I got it working in 8.04 somehow
[13:27] <Dr_willis> xnt:  guess ya go with the 32bit server kernel method perhaps?  Ive not tried/worried about it too much.. its odd that only 2gb is showing up.. it should be showing up just a little under 4gb
[13:27] <silv3r_m00n> I see that in synaptic upgradable packages the version is not the same as the latest version of some softwares ... why ?
[13:28] <xnt> ok im guessing apt-get install linux-image-server
[13:28] <jrib> xnt: how much does the bois see?
[13:28] <Dr_willis> silv3r_m00n:  as in latest version  of a software that 'exiss on the software web site?'  Ubuntu does updates every 6 mo..  so if 'bubbaedit 1.01' comes out today.. it will NOT be included untill perhaps 6 mo from the last release.
[13:28] <jrib> bios even
[13:28] <xnt> 4GB I think
[13:29] <silv3r_m00n> Dr_willis: but it will happen eventually ?
[13:29] <dmphotography> Where is DocumentIndex defined in Apache 2 on Ubuntu?
[13:29] <silv3r_m00n> Dr_willis: and like the ubuntu site gives end dates for supporting a particular distro version .. then will the updates come even after that period ?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> silv3r_m00n:  its how ubuntu does its release cycles.. if Program Bubbaedit 1.5 is out when the 6 mo relese hts.. then thats the version to be included.. 6 mo later.. they will include whatever is out at that time.
[13:30] <Dr_willis> silv3r_m00n:  otherwise its mainly updates for Security issues only in most cases
[13:30] <Tim_work> hello - can anyone tell me how i get root access in the desktop.  i know the sudo cmd for terminal but i want to save a txt file in a folder that is owned by root. btw i`m n00b
[13:31] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[13:31] <MetaMorfoziS> Can anybody tell me that where acpi logs on intrepid?
[13:31] <xnt> dr_willis: so to install the server kernel i have to run apt-get install linux-image-server?
[13:31] <MetaMorfoziS> There are no file under /var/log/acpid
[13:31] <red-rum> could someone give me a help with an nvidia card and strange colours on video playback?
[13:31] <jrib> Tim_work: what folder?
[13:31] <xnt> ok ill thake that as a yes, i gotta go to work? :P
[13:31] <Pantung> fosco_, its not only in VLC the problem is, xbmc is also a problem
[13:31] <Tim_work> in /var/www
[13:32] <jrib> Tim_work: gksudo gedit /var/www/name_of_file, but what you should really do is setup proper permissions for your user for /var/www....
[13:32] <jrib> !permissions > Tim_work
[13:33] <fw1> what protocol builds up the 'Network' file browser
[13:34] <Vinceman> firefly2442 are there free finite element programs too?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> xnt ive no idea. ive never needed the server kernel.
[13:34] <red-rum> hello? could anyone help with nvidia card problems?
[13:35] <rano> fghhj
[13:35] <RichardP> Hi, Im just about to reinstall a Linux box and have settled on Ubuntu due to past experiences with it - operationally, how different is 8.10 and 8.04 LTS?  Will I run into problems with software wanting 'newer' versions of libraries et al or should i get away with it?
[13:35] <TopKatz> hello
[13:35] <rano> drzrtdzh
[13:35] <Dr_willis> fwl you mean samba?
[13:35] <TopKatz> I just installed 8.1 and emerald does not apear to be working right
[13:35] <RichardP> I'd prefer the LTS release, but is it much more hassle?
[13:35] <TopKatz> and my window title bar is sort of wonking out
[13:35] <TopKatz> is there a known isue?
[13:36] <fw1> Dr_willis, its not smb, as that would come under the windows network
[13:38] <adante> wow
[13:38] <adante> i rebooted my system and my /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are now swapped
[13:38] <adante> i don't really like this how can i restore them and prevent this from happening again?
[13:38] <Tim_work> iim so lost
[13:40] <Tim_work> gksu nautilus should use this?
[13:41] <Bodsda> how can i exclude a folder from a mv command? i want to do  mv ./* ./folder/  without trying to move folder into itself, so i need to exclude it
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[13:41] <hugh_path> Bodsda: please read the mv man page (man mv).
[13:41] <Guest69717> can some one tell me how to update from 8.04 to 8.10. i have ubuntu 8.10 cd..
[13:41] <tuxt0r> What happened to the Intrepid repos? There's still no FF3.0.6 and it's all in the Jaunty repo. I thought it would be supported for 18 months!
[13:41] <jose> ¿como puedo poner iconos en el escritorio?
[13:42] <ianadus> adante, i think it is a udev matter, but if you use uuid in /etc/fstab you don't really need to know the name
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> !upgrade | Guest69717
[13:42] <jrib> !es | jose
[13:42] <tuxt0r> Guest69717: You can do it over the Internet or the Alternate CD, not from the Desktop CD unless you want to wipe your disk and start again.
[13:42] <Bodsda> hugh_path, it does not mention anything about exclusion
[13:42] <blazon> Is there a way to prevent other users from seeing whats in the /home directory in gnome?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> Guest69717: make sure you md5 check the iso and verify the cd is good
[13:42] <Milosz> does anyone else have segfaults in pam_smbpass?
[13:43] <hugh_path> Bodsda: Right, there is none.  It will notice if you try to move it's self (.) and gripe that you can't do that.
[13:43] <Bodsda> blazon, remove there read permission
[13:43] <tuxt0r> blazdon: Set permission on your home directory to Owner: Read/Write, Group: None, Others: None. Recursive.
[13:43] <blazon> ok
[13:43] <blazon> i thought so
[13:43] <Bodsda> hugh_path, huh? are you saying i cant do this?
[13:43] <adante> ianadus: i do use uuid but i'm just worried this will come back to bite me on the ass sometime in hte future
[13:43] <hugh_path> Bodsda: Now what you can do is move files like this "mv * .??*" will move most everything but odd cases like .x, which are rare in Unix.
[13:43] <Bodsda> blazon, thats probably the easiest way,   chmod <group>-r /home/name
[13:44] <Davedan> how do I check in the command line if a package is installed?
[13:44] <Bodsda> hugh_path, yes, but that assumes all my files are of the same extension, i have about 20 different file extensions in that folder
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> Davedan: dpkg -l | grep <something>
[13:44] <hugh_path> Bodsda: The man page is the final word, unless you use some other application (or write one).
[13:44] <Davedan> ActionParsnip1:  thanks. I thought it is part of apt-something
[13:44] <Bodsda> hugh_path, thanks for your time
[13:44] <wd4lko> Ctrl Alt F1-F6 has weird looking text like binary or signs, anybody else have that ? The screen looks like its moved to the left !
[13:45] <hugh_path> Bodsda: no, my example has nothing to do with extensions, that is not really a valid concept in Unix.
[13:45] <jrib> Bodsda: it's trivial to do in zsh.  In bash, you probably need to do some awkward piping
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> Davedan: i'm sure thats another way but thats what i use
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> Davedan: dpk -l lists ALL packages, then grep
[13:45] <tuxt0r> wd4lko: You've got corruption caused by bad video drivers I expect...
[13:45] <insanehitz> how do i solve apt-get install dpkg: error processing php5-imagick (--configure):
[13:45] <Davedan> ActionParsnip1: it works thanks
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> Davedan: just teaching some ;)
[13:45] <hugh_path> Bodsda: you should read up on your shell (likely Bash) to see how it does wildcards as that is what folks use in Unix to choose groups of things.
[13:46] <tuxt0r> insanehitz: Try sudo apt-get -f install
[13:46] <Bodsda> hugh_path, what do you mean, "see how it does wildcards"?
[13:46] <insanehitz> tuxt0r: does not helps
[13:46] <RdeWilde> Q: I'm stuck. I got "Could not execute /init .."  While the init is gzipped in my initrd.img :S? Anyone can help me?
[13:46] <tuxt0r> insanehitz: oh no, I've had that problem, that fixed it in debian, sorry I'm no help then
[13:46] <insanehitz> tuxt0r: http://rafb.net/p/kulUXz69.html
[13:46] <Bodsda> jrib, yeah, i thought it might resort ot that
[13:47] <ActionParsnip1> insanehitz: can you pastebin the command as well as the entire error you are etting
[13:47] <jrib> Bodsda: zsh is a nice shell.  In zsh you can do: mv ^folder folder  to do what you said for example
[13:47] <tuxt0r> insanehitz: try doing the apt-get install again?
[13:47] <insanehitz> ActionParsnip1: see url above basically fontconfig-config postinstall have some problem
[13:47] <hugh_path> Bodsda: Most shells in unix provide for "wildcards", magic characters that the shell expands into more then one file name, such as "less foo*" which will show you every file in this directory that begins with foo.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip1> insanehitz: i'd reinstall the list of packages at the bottom
[13:47] <Bodsda> jrib, hmm, i might think about using it, thanks
[13:48] <Bodsda> hugh_path, yeah, i know what wildcards are
[13:48] <wd4lko> tuxt0r: im running jaunty and the gui works fine
[13:48] <hugh_path> Bodsda: the '*' is the wild card and is explained in the bash man page (if your using bash).
[13:48] <insanehitz> tuxt0r: does not helps, i also spent some time figouring out whats going on, apt-get update... dpkg -i ... even dpkg -D777777 -i ...
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> insanehitz: sudo apt-get --reinstall install fontconfig-config libfontconfig1 libxft2 etc etc
[13:48] <soier> hi there. can anybody help me to read dos txt file using nedit and ubuntu
[13:48] <hugh_path> Bodsda: so try "ls .??*"
[13:48] <amir_hyper12447> hi
[13:48] <zash> soier: s/\r\n/\n
[13:48] <amir_hyper12447> how are you today  :)
[13:49] <insanehitz> ActionParsnip1: thank you! looks like working
[13:49] <ActionParsnip1> soier: nedit <file> or gksudo nedit <file>
[13:49] <amir_hyper12447> it's good
[13:49] <Bodsda> hugh_path, ls is not going to help me copy files is it?
[13:49] <amir_hyper12447> can you speak persian?
[13:49] <tuxt0r> wd4lko: well maybe it's that it doesn't come with proper FB drivers as they may conflict with proprietary drivers
[13:49] <soier> 2 zash: ?
[13:49] <allquixotic> Does anyone know if Gnome has a featureful launch menu a la KDE4/Vista? I want to be able to search on program names then launch with a click, as well as browse by category.
[13:50] <zash> soier: replace \r\n with \n
[13:50] <wd4lko> tuxt0r: maybe i shud try vesa mode ?
[13:50] <tuxt0r> allquixotic: I believe only openSUSE/SLED implements this.
[13:50] <hugh_path> Bodsda: No, but it will let you prototype the command that will, once you have the right files listed by doing ls WHATEVER, then you can do mv -t targetdir WHATWORKS.
[13:50] <tuxt0r> wd4lko: Well if you like but I don't think it will help your X graphics
[13:50] <allquixotic> tuxt0r: But if it's in opensuse then it's open source... hmm... might go surfing ftp.opensuse.org :)
[13:51] <tuxt0r> allquixotic: If you like... heheh. I think it's their extension that they do, might be worth looking at
[13:51] <soier> 2 zash. Actually I have a problem with character set. I can't find font which supports 866 dos codepage. How can I teach nedit or add font to use it !
[13:51] <Pici> allquixotic: I believe  that the gnome-main-menu package implements a SLED style menu applet for the panel.
[13:52] <allquixotic> thanks Pici, trying it
[13:52] <zash> soier: read up on "iconv"
[13:53] <soier> zash: is it only a way. To convert a file ???
[13:53] <wd4lko> tuxt0r: its only in tty1-6 when i try to use them
[13:53] <zash> soier: there is probably other ways
[13:53] <czarny> hi
[13:53] <jron> what's the name of the alpha support chan?
[13:53] <szonek> hi, few months ago i've created filter for messages in Evolution. How can i delete it? I can't find any listing of existing filters - there is Edition -> Messages Filters but it's empty
[13:53] <Pici> jron: #ubuntu+1
[13:53] <^Sean^> Hello
[13:54] <jron> thank you, Pici
[13:54] <^Sean^> would it bother anyone if I asked a technical question?
[13:54] <tuxt0r> wd4lko: That's the VTs, sorry I had that problem once, upgrading helped, nothing else I can tell you. I don't know much about sorting it out either...
[13:54] <spook> so how many backdoors are patched into the ubuntu kernel?
[13:54] <szonek> 4
[13:54] <Pici> ^Sean^: As long as its Ubuntu related. This is a support channel :)
[13:55] <wd4lko> tuxt0r: desktop and compiz work ok, nvidia 6200, well Thanks
[13:55] <^Sean^> would XChat on ubuntu count?
[13:55] <^Sean^> Pici?
[13:55] <Myrtti> ^Sean^: we'll help if we can, if it's too specific there's a channel dedicated to xchat here as well
[13:55] <^Sean^> ah thank you
[13:56] <spook> HOW DO I CONNECT TO IRC IN UBUNTU
[13:56] <^Sean^> DCC receiving wont work for some reason
[13:56] <^Sean^> ;-)
[13:56] <Myrtti> spook: welcome to IRC
[13:56] <Eiremhaith> Hello room
[13:56] <Marfi> spook, sudo apt-get install xchat
[13:56] <soier> So how can i teach nedit to use this dos codepage. Should I install something on ubuntu ? Is there any Nedit user ???
[13:56] <Eiremhaith> wow this is crazy
[13:56] <Myrtti> spook: you're already here.
[13:56] <Jeruvy> !freenode | sppok for irc questions
[13:56] <^Sean^> Spook=troll
[13:56] <Eiremhaith> I was just going to ask if there is a site that can tell me what I can install using apt-get install
[13:57] <spook> successful troll is successful
[13:57] <Subdolus> hi folks! the wireless on my lappy ran fine with Ubuntu up until I tried to add a second, USB, wifi card. The original internal card is an Atheros and my new USB 'card' is an RALINK. After a lot of messing about, I got the USB card working great but then ofcourse the internal card decided not to work properly. I can set all the arguements with iwconfig EXCEPT the WEP key!!! so I can't connect to my network!
[13:57] <Myrtti> ^Sean^: are you sure the problem is with xchat and not with your network connection?
[13:57] <worldcitizen> gb2/*/
[13:57] <TheFunkbomb> hey, have you guys ever heard of an issue of browser hijacks in Ubuntu?
[13:57] <Gustavo_G> How can I see the output of a daemon? I want to see which messages the NFS server is writing
[13:57] <^Sean^> Eiremhaith: well, anything in your Synaptic package list and in the repositories
[13:57] <Myrtti> !packages | Eiremhaith
[13:57] <Subdolus> here is a pastebin of me trying to set the key: http://pastebin.com/m77fa795f
[13:57] <szonek> few months ago i've created filter for messages in Evolution. How can i delete it? I can't find any listing of existing filters - there is Edition -> Messages Filters but it's empty......... anyone?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> insanehitz: all better now?
[13:58] <^Sean^> Myrtti: That is a good question, running mIRC in my VM has no issues. But running XChat and mIRC on the ubuntu side, no dice
[13:58] <spook> how do i remove the backdoors from the ubuntu kernel?
[13:58] <Myrtti> ^Sean^: have you tried other clients, like irssi or pidgin?
[13:58] <Guest40608> hi all im using an ati radeon 4870 w ddr5 im only getting 8500 fps how can i improve thst
[13:59] <archman> guys, i need to remove all of mono and monodevelop, but i see there are lots of it on synaptich. what do i do?
[13:59] <spook> Guest40608: you need to remove all the backdoors from the ubuntu kernel
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> Guest40608: thats plenty considering your brain cant process more than 30
[13:59] <^Sean^> I will try pidgin right now, irssi, no
[13:59] <shally87> hi
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> !hi | shally87
[14:00] <Subdolus> here is a pastebin of me trying to set the key: http://pastebin.com/m77fa795f
[14:00] <Gustavo_G> I don't think Guest's eyeball's have enough bandwidth to do what he wants.
[14:00] <shally87> i got this problem on untarring this vmware server
[14:00] <shally87>  the location of tha vm ware is in documents
[14:00] <Eiremhaith> Thanks for the information.  I am just looking to see what can be installed.  Don't know if I would want a lot of the things but just installed smplayer and was looking for that when I was running SuSe Linux and now I have it.
[14:00] <shally87> then i just follow the web instruction to tar -xzf /Path/To/VMware-server-1.0.3-xxx.tar.gz
[14:00] <shally87> any ideas?
[14:01] <spook> shally87: you need to recompile the kernel, to remove the backdoors that have been patched in
[14:01] <deany> lol.@ spook
[14:01] <Gustavo_G> >	How can I see the output of a daemon? I forgot the command that let's me see any process' output.
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: its fairly clear, you need to execute tar -xzf on the file you downloaded
[14:01] <shally87> how to recompile that?
[14:01] <Pici> shally87: Ignore him.
[14:01] <Subdolus> here is a pastebin of me trying to set the key: http://pastebin.com/m77fa795f
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: you dont compile it, its closed source
[14:02] <shally87> ok i've use the command and this came out
[14:02] <shally87> tar: /path/to/vmware-server-2.0.0-122956.i386.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[14:02] <shally87> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[14:02] <shally87> tar: Child returned status 2
[14:02] <shally87> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[14:02] <FloodBot2> shally87: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:02] <shally87> oh..my bad
[14:02] <shally87> so sorry
[14:02] <deany> shally87, use virtualbox its much easier
[14:02] <Myrtti> shally87: where have you downloaded the vmware tar.gz file?
[14:02] <^Sean^> shally87: there is information on how to install vm-server in the read-me file that comes with it
[14:02] <shally87> vmware ebsite
[14:02] <deany> and less of a footprint in my opinion.
[14:02] <shally87> ok..
[14:03] <shally87> but i havent untar it
[14:03] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: you replace the path with YOUR path where the file is, the guide assumes you can use some fuzzy logic as people can download the image to anywhere
[14:03] <shally87> how to read the read me files?
[14:03] <Gustavo_G> How can I see the output of a daemon? I forgot the command that let's me see any process' output.
[14:03] <shally87> as i've put it in the Documents
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: open them with gedit or nano
[14:04] <shally87> and i've cd documents
[14:04] <^Sean^> open the tar using your archive manager
[14:04] <^Sean^> as in double click it
[14:04] <^Sean^> the physical tar where you downloaded it
[14:04] <Subdolus> here is a pastebin of me trying to set the key: http://pastebin.com/m77fa795f
[14:04] <shally87> archive manager just dont work as i read before
[14:04] <^Sean^> and you'll see a read me there
[14:04] <Subdolus> Any ideas or what?
[14:04] <RobRoyal> daemon-output: startup the console and type    "sudo tail -f /var/log/daemon.log"
[14:04] <^Sean^> yaya, but it still  comes as an archive
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: if you open terminal and CD to where the tar is you can run tar xzf <file name>
[14:05] <RobRoyal> btw: where can I find the USB-images for imagewriter?
[14:05] <shally87> ok i try again
[14:05] <shally87> lame..i forgot to sudo i guess..
[14:05] <shally87> idiot me..
[14:05] <shally87> haha
[14:05] <^Sean^> ;-)
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: users can extract the data, no need for sudo
[14:06] <shally87> owh
[14:06] <Eiremhaith> wow the possibilities are endless.
[14:06] <shally87> i go for this
[14:06] <^Sean^> ActionParsnip1: depending on where he wants to extract it
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> ^Sean^: true, nice :D
[14:06] <shally87> a-liew@Yumie:~/Documents$ sudo tar -xzf vmware-server-2.0.0-122956.i386.tar.gz
[14:06] <RobRoyal> where can I find the USB-images for imagewriter?
[14:06] <Gustavo_G> Thank you, RobRoyal. Any realtime output possible?
[14:06] <shally87> then i get this tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[14:06] <RobRoyal> tail -f     is realtime!
[14:07] <Gustavo_G> silly me.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: looks good
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: try: tar zxvf ./vmware-server-2.0.0-122956.i386.tar.gz
[14:07] <shally87> but if got no sudo still the same thing happen
[14:07] <Eiremhaith> Thanks all for the help.  It there any software that I must have on Ubuntu?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> Eiremhaith: a kernel is essential
[14:07] <shally87> i got this if i do that
[14:07] <shally87> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[14:07] <shally87> same thing
[14:08] <shally87> oh i forgot i running on ubuntu 8.04
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: is the file consistant? can you md5 check it?
[14:08] <Eiremhaith> I think I have a kernel, but I would not know how to check.
[14:08] <RobRoyal> the TAR-file seems to be damaged
[14:08] <TheFunkbomb> Has anyone ever had a problem with browser hijacks in Ubuntu?
[14:08] <^Sean^> Eiremhaith: that guy was razing u
[14:08] <shally87> damage??
[14:08] <^Sean^> err, razzing*
[14:08] <Eiremhaith> Thanks Sean
[14:08] <shally87> then i need to download new??
[14:09] <^Sean^> if u are running ubuntu, u have a kernel
[14:09] <RobRoyal> yes
[14:09] <Eiremhaith> cool.  I figured.  I was just playing dumb
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: tcp does a fie job with retransmissions of bad data but it is not a 100% garuntee
[14:09] <^Sean^> ;-)
[14:09] <allquixotic> TheFunkbomb: With javascript, new window popups, etc. it is technically possible for annoying ad sites to be a problem... you should install Adblock Plus if you're worried about that
[14:09] <RobRoyal> and check the vmware*.tar.gz with md5sum
[14:09] <Eiremhaith> I know how to check if I have one.  I saw it the other day.
[14:09] <shally87> how  to tcp it?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> ^Sean^: ask a silly question....
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: it was done when you downloaded it
[14:09] <^Sean^> Pici: no dice connecting to any server using pidgin
[14:09] <allquixotic> TheFunkbomb: Unfortunately there's no way to prevent this kind of website from acting unless it's on a blacklist -- because it relies on features that you want legitimate websites to have available
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: i'd redownload
[14:09] <TheFunkbomb> allquixotic, I already have that problem.  Some stupid Fling.com site, a site I've never been to, switch my page out
[14:10] <^Sean^> ActionParsnip1: in time I'm sure one will be asked by me
[14:10] <shally87> ok..
[14:10] <shally87> then i'd redownload too
[14:10] <^Sean^> ActionParsnip1: probably in about 2 secvonds
[14:10] <shally87> i actually prefer the .deb files
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: have you considered virtualbox?
[14:10] <allquixotic> TheFunkbomb: I get redirects to fling.com sometimes too, but only when I try to download stuff from certain websites, like gnome-look.org... it's an ad network
[14:10] <shally87> easy and less harm
[14:10] <shally87> haha
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: virtualbox is in repos
[14:10] <shally87> virtualbox and vmware is it different?
[14:10] <TheFunkbomb> allquixotic, so nothing to worry about?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: yes
[14:11] <allquixotic> TheFunkbomb: I believe you're witnessing intended behavior (advertising revenue) from sites you're visiting
[14:11] <shally87> i just wanna set up LAMP, DNA and mail server in my pc..
[14:11] <penela> When I go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers I don't see anything for my ATI card.  How come?
[14:11] <allquixotic> TheFunkbomb: Adblock Plus should take care of it for you. you can add specific sites to its list if you want, and they won't even show up as popup windows
[14:11] <shally87> just trying it out, to find some exp..
[14:11] <TheFunkbomb> allquixotic, I was surfing "notalwaysright.com" a site about customer service when it forwarded to fling.com
[14:11] <TheFunkbomb> It wasn't even a pop up, it just went there
[14:12] <^Sean^> TheFunkbomb: are using windows, because that sounds like spyware
[14:12] <^Sean^> ;-)
[14:12] <shally87> can i run a server by using virtual box ActionParsnip1
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: sure
[14:12] <allquixotic> TheFunkbomb: If it redirected you and the original website is totally gone, that could be fling.com executing an XSS (Cross Site Scripting) attack using privileges granted to it through ad banners at the site you were visiting. Adblock Plus can do something about that too, by totally blocking traffic from ad networks
[14:13] <allquixotic> I won't say it again. Install Adblock Plus.
[14:13] <TheFunkbomb> allquixotic, let me install adblock then
[14:13] <shally87> ok..
[14:13] <shally87> thanks.. i guess i redownload things first..
[14:13] <shally87> gonna ask again if i could not do it soon..
[14:13] <shally87> thanks all
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: no need, just run sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[14:13] <aboSamoor> I am trying to boot ubuntu over network using the live CD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#A%20variation:%20Booting%20the%20%22Live%20CD%22%20image. Here is my configuration files http://paste.ubuntu.com/116455/ . I can see a new entry to the options called 'live' but choosing it does not load anything !!!
[14:13] <shally87> thanks ActionParsnip1
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> !virtualbox | shally87
[14:13] <shally87> ok
[14:14] <oskar-> hi, how can i disable "fast reauthentication" by default for NetworkManager/wpa_supplicant?
[14:14] <shally87> ok..thanks again
[14:14] <mauricio13> oi
[14:15] <ludovic_> join #tsiga
[14:15] <shally87> oh before that.. what is the different of virtual box and vmware
[14:15] <shally87> ?
[14:15] <ludovic_> ledj j'ai fai un convesation privée
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: thats a very complex question. I'd research
[14:16] <shally87> oh..i thin i google it...
[14:16] <shally87> thanks ActionParsnip1
[14:16] <^Sean^> shally87: by the way, you will need to build the machines that you want to be virtual
[14:16] <^Sean^> and server wont do that
[14:16] <^Sean^> and configure them
[14:16] <mauricio13> oi tem algum brasileiro
[14:16] <mauricio13> ai
[14:16] <ikonia> !br | mauricio13
[14:17] <mauricio13> sim
[14:17] <mauricio13> ou nao
[14:17] <^Sean^> you may want to *buy* vmware workstation
[14:17] <ikonia> !br > mauricio13
[14:18] <mauricio13> oi
[14:19] <ikonia> mauricio13: what language do you speak ?
[14:19] <Gustavo_G> Portuguese.
[14:19] <ikonia> so why is he not understanding the !br factoid ?
[14:19] <ari_stress> evening guys :)
[14:21] <kjell> hi ari_stress
[14:23] <Vallhalla81> !lan
[14:24] <SiLOX> Hi, I have just upgraded my server from 7.10 to 8.04 - but now apache2 wont start at boot (and many other things) - can someone help me?
[14:24] <ikonia> SiLOX: what happens when you try to start it
[14:24] <enzotib> how can i mount a .bin file, coming with a .cue file? it should be a disk image, but "file myfile.bin" says it is data
[14:24] <SiLOX> ikonia: it starts
[14:24] <jrib> !mount | enzotib
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> enzotib: you can convert it with bchunk
[14:24] <IsUp> SiLOX: do 'make config' in apache src directory.
[14:24] <ikonia> SiLOX: so what's the error you get at boot time
[14:24] <ikonia> IsUp: no
[14:25] <jrib> enzotib: erm, sorry.  /msg ubottu iso
[14:25] <Vallhalla81> !network
[14:25] <ikonia> IsUp: 1.) you don't randomly issue make 2.) ubuntu does not provice source build products, but binary packages
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> enzotib: bchunk input.bin output.iso
[14:25] <SiLOX> IsUp: since its several programs being started i dont think thats the problem
[14:25] <ikonia> IsUp: think about what you are telling people to do
[14:25] <enzotib> thx ActionParsnip1 i will give it a try
[14:25] <SiLOX> ikonia: Sorry just have SSH contact with the server right now - but let me check
[14:25] <IsUp> ikonia: yeah you are right, maybe he is installed with apache2 or LAMP. sorry
[14:25] <ikonia> SiLOX: clear down the syslog and the apache error and access logs, then restart - and check out the logs
[14:26] <enzotib> jrib, thx, but mounting as iso fails, i will follow ActionParsnip1 advice
[14:26] <jrib> enzotib: well ubottu provides a link to converting .bin/.cue to .iso (as ActionParsnip1 said)
[14:27] <WitVis> Hi all, total noob, just installed Ubuntu for the 1st time.
[14:27] <enzotib> oh, sorry jrib
[14:27] <WitVis> Does Ubuntu server have a KDE option?
[14:27] <ikonia> WitVis: if you want a desktop you should install kubuntu desktop install
[14:27] <ikonia> WitVis: the desktop release is aimed at home user kit
[14:27] <SiLOX> I got this error when i reconfiguread all programs by time to time: found /etc/apparmor.d/force-complain/usr.sbin
[14:27] <miked595> ubuntu server comes with a gui?
[14:28] <ikonia> miked595: no
[14:28] <miked595> thought so
[14:28] <szonek> few months ago i've created filter for messages in Evolution. How can i delete it? I can't find any listing of existing filters - there is Edition -> Message Filters but it's empty......... anyone?
[14:28] <ikonia> SiLOX: interesting, is this a desktop or a serer install
[14:28] <bsaddi> coucou
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> WitVis: you can sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:28] <SiLOX> ikonia: server install
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> WitVis: its kinda pointless install a server system if you are gonna run desktop
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> WitVis: as a new user I STRONGLY advise desktop
[14:28] <SiLOX> ikonia: like i said i upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 on the "standard way"
[14:29] <ikonia> SiLOX: so appamour in 7.10 seems to have a conflict
[14:29] <ikonia> SiLOX: try disabling appamour
[14:29] <SiLOX> ikonia: and how do i fix apparmor?
[14:29] <ikonia> SiLOX: disable it first
[14:29] <ikonia> SiLOX: let's see if that is the problem
[14:29] <ikonia> SiLOX: then we can worry about fixing it
[14:30] <Decepticon> how to test if a link is broken, how to unlink broken links in a dir that go nowhere?
[14:30] <ikonia> Decepticon: just remove the link
[14:30] <SiLOX> ikonia: how do i stop it on boot?
[14:30] <Decepticon> no
[14:30] <Decepticon> no you dont understand the question
[14:30] <ikonia> SiLOX: update-rc
[14:30] <ikonia> SiLOX: update-rc.d
[14:30] <Decepticon> i want to test if a link is broken or not, first, then rm
[14:30] <Decepticon> and its not even rm
[14:30] <Decepticon> its unlink
[14:30] <miked595> why apparmor over selinux?
[14:31] <ikonia> miked595: long decision ages ago
[14:31] <ikonia> Decepticon: click the link - if it works, it's active, if it's not remove it
[14:31] <Decepticon> no you're completely ignoring that im not going to be doing this myself
[14:31] <SiLOX> ikonia: and then?
[14:31] <mauricio13> oi galera
[14:31] <ikonia> SiLOX: reboot and lets see what apache says
[14:31] <ikonia> Decepticon: who is doing this ?
[14:31] <ikonia> Decepticon: if you're not doing it why are you asking ?
[14:31] <Decepticon> ikonia a script needs to see whether a link leads no where
[14:32] <SiLOX> ikonia: guess update-rc.d apparmor remove?
[14:32] <Decepticon> ikonia and then unlink it if it doesnt
[14:32] <ikonia> Decepticon: just do an if -x on the link
[14:32] <ikonia> Decepticon: if it's a fail remove it
[14:32] <Decepticon> ikonia ok that makes more sense
[14:32] <ikonia> SiLOX: not on ubuntu at this second to verify syntax
[14:32] <mauricio13> TEM ALGUM BRASILEIRO AI
[14:32] <ikonia> !br | mauricio13
[14:32] <_ruben> find / -type l -xtype l .. that finds all dead symlinks on a system
[14:32] <Pici> Decepticon: find -L -type l  *should*  give you broken links
[14:33] <SiLOX> ikonia: sorry did not understand you on how to disable apparmor on boot?
[14:33] <aboSamoor2> I am trying to boot ubuntu over network using the live CD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#A%20variation:%20Booting%20the%20%22Live%20CD%22%20image. Here is my configuration files http://paste.ubuntu.com/116455/ . I can see a new entry to the options called 'live' but choosing it does not load anything !!!
[14:33] <ikonia> SiLOX: use rc-update.d
[14:33] <SiLOX> ikonia: and how do i do that?
[14:33] <WitVis> ikonia, does the desktop edition have the same capabilities as the server edition if fully installed
[14:33] <ikonia> SiLOX: look at the man page, I'm  not on ubuntu at this moment so cant confirm the syntax
[14:33] <ikonia> WitVis: and more
[14:33] <SiLOX> ikonia: okay
[14:34] <WitVis> ikonia, thanx, that's all i needed to know now!
[14:34] <shally87> haha..
[14:35] <shally87> not that virtual box is there
[14:35] <shally87> how to use it?
[14:35] <ikonia> shally87: ? how can we help
[14:35] <shally87> no app to press
[14:35] <steveccc> hi all - does anyone know if a firewire disk with two firewire ports can be used by two machines at once or are the two ports purely for daisy chaining
[14:35] <ikonia> shally87: no - it can't
[14:35] <ikonia> shally87: think of it as a loop
[14:35] <ikonia> shally87: sorry - no not you
[14:35] <genii> steveccc: Daisy-chaining
[14:35] <ikonia> steveccc: no it can't, think of it as a loop
[14:35] <ikonia> steveccc: a machine needs a lock on it
[14:35] <steveccc> thought so - thanks both
[14:36] <shally87> i also found this  thing along the installation  * No suitable module for running kernel found.
[14:36] <ikonia> !vbox
[14:36] <shally87> there is no problem is it?
[14:36] <ikonia> shally87: check that info out
[14:36] <shally87> ok tq..
[14:37] <youcef> bouakil
[14:37] <ikonia> !gr | youcef
[14:38] <ArcSighter> hello people. what's the best solution for implementing a squid proxy which user active directory user information?
[14:38] <ikonia> ArcSighter: squid+kerberos/ldap intergration
[14:38] <^Sean^> shally87: on the subject of installing VMWare products.... http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=install+instructions+vmware+server+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[14:38] <deany> shally87, it will build one
[14:38] <shally87> ok
[14:39] <shally87> thanks ^Sean^
[14:39] <Decepticon> ikonia am i doing if [ -x /path/to/linked/file ]; then echo "success"; else echo "fail"; fi ######### but it keeps failing
[14:39] <^Sean^> shally87: and http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/01/vmware-server-107-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-2627-7-generic/
[14:39] <ArcSighter> ikonia: you mean I should install a kerberos provider then squid, and its possible to integrate squid access control list with active directory users groups?
[14:39] <^Sean^> that is a specific link
[14:39] <^Sean^> but for version 8.10
[14:39] <^Sean^> of ubuntu
[14:39] <shally87> i gonna try for virtual box now as many review says it is better in starting up and closing
[14:39] <shally87> then it is easy to use tools too
[14:39] <SiLOX> ikonia: no difference
[14:39] <ikonia> ArcSighter: I believe so
[14:40] <ikonia> SiLOX: you still get the appamour warning ?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: most new users to virtualisation find it easier
[14:40] <shally87> oh i forgot i thing
[14:40] <SiLOX> ikonia: no apache2 wont reboot
[14:40] <ArcSighter> ikonia: do you have some experience? or recommendations about such setup?
[14:40] <SiLOX> *start at boot
[14:40] <deany> shally87, vmware are rubbish at updating their vmware tools for ubuntu
[14:40] <ikonia> SiLOX: what is the error this time
[14:40] <shally87> haha deany you are mean
[14:40] <ActionParsnip1> but in dual core systems vmware has been known to run smoother
[14:40] <ikonia> ArcSighter: never done it with squid - but I've used pam to auth it against mysql, and pam has a module for ldap
[14:40] <SiLOX> ikonia: no error as i can see
[14:40] <aboSamoor2> ubuntu can not detect an empty DVD ? !!! can you help me ?
[14:40] <shally87> anyway i just face this one thing for ubuntu 8.10
[14:41] <ikonia> SiLOX: have you checked to see if it is setup to start at boot time
[14:41] <ArcSighter> ikonia: but that ldap module it's compatible with propietary ms active directory???
[14:41] <shally87> i've install this before and together with it is windows xp
[14:41] <Vallhalla81> Hey all can any one point me to a page where i can learn how to set up a local network
[14:41] <ikonia> ArcSighter: totally
[14:41] <ikonia> Vallhalla81: google.com
[14:41] <shally87> the problem is it does caused my ethernet card to broke
[14:41] <SiLOX> ikonia: it has always been setup on starting - so dont see why a upgrade would change that
[14:41] <ikonia> Vallhalla81: plenty of info - guides
[14:41] <ikonia> Vallhalla81: please dont ask non-ubuntu questions/searches in here
[14:41] <ikonia> SiLOX: upgrades can have issues, check
[14:41] <Slipk> #amule
[14:41] <ikonia> SiLOX: more so as the run levels changed with upstart
[14:42] <shally87> when i install xp and ubuntu 8.04 my ethernet card does not work
[14:42] <shally87> but when i use ubuntu 8.10 it works fine
[14:42] <ikonia> shally87: works - or works with a virtual setup
[14:42] <Decepticon> i am doing if [ -x /path/to/linked/file ]; then echo "success"; else echo "fail"; fi ######### but it keeps failing ... im tryin to test whether a link leads to a legit place. if it doesnt, unlink it. ie: original file where link leads to has been deleted and link leads to nowhere
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> Vallhalla81: alos depends what you mean by "set up a LAN"...its MASSIVELY ambiguous
[14:42] <ArcSighter> ikonia: then I could install a mysql server, then this ldap module for active directory user dumping, and integrate squid with it, it's that your point?
[14:42] <whiteplane> hi
[14:42] <whiteplane> how can I murder a window?
[14:42] <Vallhalla81> Ikonia its the ubuntu side of it i need help setting up
[14:42] <shally87> now that i buy neww 1000mbps ethernet card, i install ubuntu 8.04
[14:42] <shally87> anyone got idea of this bug?
[14:43] <ikonia> Vallhalla81: so your question is "how do I configure ubuntu to be part of a network
[14:43] <deany> ActionParsnip1, fresh xubuntu install.. used that Pure XFCE info and none of those components are installed, yet there is still gnome presence there.
[14:43] <whiteplane> in KDE shift+esc  allows me to kill stupid windows with mouse, and in gonme?
[14:43] <ikonia> ArcSighter: no - just install squid and pam - intergrate it with ldap/kerboers as ldap/kerbors with sync with AD
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> deany: try uninstalling on of the gnome packages, see what it says its needed for
[14:43] <SiLOX> ikonia: will try do reconfigure everything now after disabled apparmor, see if that helps
[14:43] <ikonia> ArcSighter: you don't need AD
[14:43] <ikonia> ArcSighter: sorry - you don't need squid
[14:43] <Vallhalla81> Yes i suppose that would have been a better question
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> deany: if you have firefox installed it will need a load of gnome rubbish cos firefox is weird
[14:43] <SiLOX> ikonia: still see  /etc/apparmor.d/force-complain/usr.sbin.named
[14:43] <ikonia> SiLOX: look if it's set to start at boot time
[14:44] <ArcSighter> ikonia: yes I know I don't but the network is w2k3 DC so the users are already there
[14:44] <ArcSighter> ikonia: do you have any reference about what you're talking about?
[14:44] <ikonia> Vallhalla81: open the network managment application, either set it to dhcp (if you have a dhcp server) or assign a valid network address/mask/gateway, heypresto, your on the network
[14:44] <chnuebi> whiteplane: use the kill command
[14:44] <shally87> ActionParsnip1:  what is this? * No suitable module for running kernel found.
[14:44] <ikonia> ArcSighter: it doesn't matter if the users are there, ldap/kerberos will sync with AD
[14:44] <deany> i removed FF, yet its still there.. there are a ton of gnome libs and other gunk installed when lookin in synaptic
[14:44] <arvind_khadri> hi, how do i get my keys back, if i have done a new install
[14:45] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: restore them from the backup you took
[14:45] <ArcSighter> ikonia: thanks, but as I've asked, do you have any reference that I could follow up?
[14:45] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, :S no backup
[14:45] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: then they are gone, unless you have them stored
[14:45] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: you need to add yourself to the vbox user group
[14:45] <ikonia> ArcSighter: well as I've said I've never done what you asked, no
[14:46] <shally87> how to?
[14:46] <deany> ActionParsnip1,  FF requires only the branding when removing thru synaptic...
[14:46] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, stored as in ...the gpg signature?? that long ASCII value?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: if you'd websearched, you would have found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[14:46] <ikonia> ArcSighter: if your talking about ldap/AD then there are tons of guides on the net
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> deany: see what you can remove
[14:46] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: no the public/private key pair files
[14:46] <deany> this is a fresh install, should of worked
[14:46] <shally87> oh..
[14:47] <shally87> i was in that web too..
[14:47] <shally87> thanks
[14:47] <ArcSighter> ikonia: ok, your help seem to be very useful. Thanks a lot.
[14:47] <ikonia> ArcSighter: no problem
[14:47] <ikonia> ArcSighter: if you have specific questions, please shout
[14:47] <ActionParsnip1> shally87: np, work all the way through that and you will hit gold
[14:48] <Vallhalla81> Ikonia thankyou
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> Vallhalla81: please be more specific with your questions in future
[14:49] <ArcSighter> ikonia: I think you basically pointed me to the path. I have a Windows PDC and BDC and a ISA Server proxy, I need to migrate the proxy server to debian/ubuntu given the slowdowns issues experience in the windows proxy. So, I needed to integrate the users information and access control from that server which is based in AD groups into Squid ACLs
[14:51] <curan> hi, how do i permanently set the permissions of /dev/ttyHS0 to /dev/ttyHS3 (owned by root) from 660 to 666? it is for a wireless internet card (with umts, gprs and so on). after every time i eject the card and instert it again, the permissions are back to 660.
[14:52] <sipior> curan: you'll need to configure udev: "man udev" to start with
[14:52] <warren_> hi
[14:52] <warren_> i accidentaly made my /etc/sudoers empty, what must i do?
[14:52] <infotek411> can I listen for bug's like this "cat /boot/vmlinuz* > /dev/dsp"
[14:52] <ikonia> warren_: boot in rescure mode and re-populate it
[14:52] <tavi> someone know where i can find /var/alsa?
[14:52] <infotek411> in the kernel i mean...
[14:52] <ikonia> infotek411: no
[14:52] <ikonia> infotek411: please don't be silly
[14:52] <tavi> the file ...i wanna replace
[14:52] <warren_> are there any howtos online?
[14:52] <aDMid0R> alo!
[14:52] <administrator> 880525
[14:53] <anonusing> hi, i just installed xampp but, cannot find where to open it. any suggestions?
[14:53] <infotek411> ikonia: why not?
[14:53] <shally87> oh ok.. which one is the user? sudo gpasswd -a `whoami` vboxusers
[14:53] <anonusing> i installed it in root
[14:53] <ikonia> infotek411: you can't listen for bugs ina  binary file - please don't be silly
[14:53] <shally87> whaomi or vboxusers?
[14:53] <anonusing> as the xampp instructions said
[14:53] <ikonia> anonusing: you should use lamp - not xammp - it's not supported here
[14:53] <sipior> infotek411: interesting debugging technique ;-)
[14:53] <anonusing> :/
[14:54]  * infotek411 files a complaint at the Ministry of Silly bots :P
[14:54] <ikonia> infotek411: please stop
[14:54] <warren_> ikonia: are there any howtos?
[14:54] <ikonia> infotek411: this is a support channel
[14:54] <Pici> !lamp | anonusing please read
[14:54] <ikonia> warren_: for what, sorry
[14:54] <tavi> how i can replace a file in the sistem?
[14:54] <warren_> ikonia: for my empty sudoers
[14:54] <ikonia> tavi: it's a flat file system, just drop it in
[14:54] <tavi> what?
[14:55] <ikonia> warren_: you need to get a copy from someone that's not been touched, boot into recovery mode from the boot menu and type in
[14:55] <infotek411> does anyone know of functional stock ticker for ubuntu
[14:55] <ikonia> tavi: you can just make or copy files into place where you want them
[14:55] <ikonia> infotek411: I think gnome has a plugin
[14:55] <warren_> ikonia: type what?
[14:55] <infotek411> ikonia: that was not very informative
[14:55] <ikonia> warren_: a new copy of the file
[14:55] <warren_> hm
[14:55] <ikonia> infotek411: I don't know the name of it, but I have seen a gnome widget running
[14:56] <aDMid0RAS> alores
[14:56] <anonusing> thanks. just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me why xampp isn't supported?
[14:56] <warren_> ok thanks
[14:56] <infotek411> ikonia: please... this is a support channel
[14:56] <ikonia> anonusing: because it makes it's own "platform"
[14:57] <anonusing> okay, i will check out the link. thanks ikonia, ubottu, etc
[14:59] <Scunizi> I just installed server with the LAMP, Samba & FTP options.  Testing FTP results in no connection. Any idea which FTP package was installed and where the conf file is?
[14:59] <aDMid0RAS> any1 can tell me how i can find ret on linux ?
[14:59] <ikonia> aDMid0RAS: ret ?
[15:00] <GaMbi_DK> Um.. anyone who knows why I got internet no problems on ubuntu.. but cant even find IP on windows XP (good thing it is not the other way around tho :P)
[15:00] <ikonia> aDMid0RAS: what do you mean by ret
[15:00] <curan> sipior: thanks, i have found an existing file concerning this card. do you know what i have to add to set the pernissions correctly?
[15:00] <ikonia> GaMbi_DK: could you explain what you mean "can't find ip"
[15:01] <szonek> few months ago i've created filter for messages in Evolution. How can i delete it? I can't find any listing of existing filters - there is Edition -> Message Filters but it's empty......... anyone?
[15:02] <GaMbi_DK>  ikonia No internet on windows XP.. meaning not just slow internet.. the netcard havent even found an IP to work with
[15:02] <xkenjix> hey is the ati firemv 2400 pcie graphics card compatible with ubuntu
[15:03] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=arvindkhadri%40gmail.com&op=index&fingerprint=on cant this page help me getting back things?
[15:03] <Pcimkeller> #join ubuntu-de
[15:03] <Pcimkeller> |join ubuntu -de
[15:03] <ikonia> GaMbi_DK: ask in ##windows then - XP is not supported here
[15:03] <ikonia> Pcimkeller: /join #ubuntu-de
[15:03] <sk8> hi, I can't enable the visual effects, I get "Composite extension not available" what's that about?
[15:03] <Pcimkeller> ikonia: THX
[15:04] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: not without hte private key
[15:04] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, how do i revoke the keys...
[15:04] <Pcimkeller> I search a Wrapper for my Soundcard-Driver. Who can help me
[15:04] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: use keytool to remove it from the server, or contact the server owner
[15:05] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, thanks.
[15:07] <sipior> curan: you'll need to modify the appropriate file in /etc/udev/rules.d. try grepping for some substring of the device name to find the correct file.
[15:07] <dsdeiz> hi, how do i get the version # of ubuntu from the terminal?
[15:07] <Pici> dsdeiz: lsb_release -a
[15:08] <dsdeiz> Pici: Tnx :-)
[15:08] <Droopsta915> What's a good weather tool that I can install?
[15:08] <Requiem974> Hi all
[15:09] <Droopsta915> hi
[15:09] <curan> sipior: yes, i've already found the right file, but what would you suggest to add to this file?
[15:09] <shally87> ﻿ how to undo sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-source module-assistant and sudo module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose-source ?
[15:09] <sipior> curan: well, what did you want the permissions to be? 0666?
[15:09] <ryanprior> Droopsta915: Weather comes pre-built into the Time applet, actually. Right-click it, choose "preferences", then choose the "weather" tab.
[15:10] <shally87> before that
[15:10] <shally87> if i update my kernel version, what version will i get?
[15:10] <curan> sipior: yes
[15:10] <sipior> curan: if the device is already listed, just change the "MODE" value to 666 or whichever.
[15:10] <ikonia> shally87: latest 2.7.27 build
[15:10] <Droopsta915> ryanprior: Cool, thanks!
[15:11] <shally87> ok
[15:11] <deany> shally87, should of gone for the latest 2.1 non ose
[15:11] <deany> its plain better
[15:11] <shally87> then
[15:11] <shally87> ﻿ how to undo sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-source module-assistant and sudo module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose-source ?
[15:11] <deany> carry on if you wish... just givin my opinion
[15:12] <shally87> so no need to undo?
[15:12] <shally87> and there is this last command :sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv start , do i need to proceed?
[15:12] <sk8> how can I specify which monitor is the primary one?
[15:12] <con-man> #nerdpickuplines Hey baby, how about we sudo -rm yourpants ?
[15:12] <shally87> it is for kernel 2.6.24-22
[15:13] <Requiem974> ( Is there any skilled people who can help me about winxppro on qemu under ubuntu-server-8.10 please? Or Wich # room ? thanks! )
[15:13] <ikonia> shally87: 8.04 is 2.6.24 8.10 is 2.6.27
[15:13] <shally87> what you mean ikonia
[15:13] <shally87> !kernel
[15:13] <curan> sipior: thanks, i will try that, another thing: the current file name is "z20_hso-udev.rules". do you think the "z" in the front is a problem? it was like that from the beginning.
[15:14] <fecub> grüßt euch!
[15:14] <fatbrain> Hello, connecting my bluetooth keyboard, should I use bluez or is that "outdated"?
[15:14] <con-man> guys i need help with the following
[15:14] <con-man> mime3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:14] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\nssdbm3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:14] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\nspr4.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:14] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\softokn3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:14] <FloodBot2> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\ssl3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:14] <ikonia> con-man: please don't flood the channel
[15:14] <deany> you would be up n runnin in seconds had you chosen the 2.1 not ose
[15:14] <fatbrain> con-man: paste in some pastebin
[15:14] <squidly> con-man: see FloodBot2's message and flood that ;)
[15:14] <sipior> curan: sure, the z would prevent it from being run with the rest of the rule set.
[15:16] <Basem> i have problem when i try to install ubuntu 8.04 as windows program
[15:16] <kavity> What?
[15:16] <Basem> after it creat the image it says cant load it other program is useing it
[15:16] <kavity> Installing it as a windows program?
[15:16] <Pici> kavity: Wubi
[15:17] <kavity> Oh. :O
[15:17] <Requiem974> Is it possible to install winxppro with qemu under ubuntu-server-8.10 please? :)
[15:17] <fluitfries> runing Xubuntu, tried to install compiz from synaptic last night, ran compiz -v in terminal, and now i have no xfwm4 anymore.  xfwm4 never auto loads and i can't get the focus to a term screen to run it myself.  how can i fix xfce?  thanks!
[15:17] <ikonia> Requiem974: yes it is
[15:17] <ikonia> Requiem974: if your cpu has hardware virtualizaion kvm will work well, or without qemu will work but be slow
[15:17] <Shammah> test
[15:17] <Shammah> it works :D
[15:18] <shally87> how to update kernel using apt-get?
[15:18] <jon_> kde?
[15:18] <Requiem974> Do I have to install X for ubuntu-server in order to run a winxpro under qemu ?
[15:18] <ikonia> shally87: sudo apt-get update it will offer an update if one is avilable
[15:18] <deany> apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:18] <sipior> jon_: what about it?
[15:18] <ikonia> Requiem974: it will make things easier as the interface is SDL
[15:18] <Basem> so guys any help?
[15:18] <shally87> ok..
[15:18] <shally87> that will consume tome
[15:18] <deany> for a newer one...
[15:18] <Basem> guys
[15:18] <shally87> time*
[15:18] <shally87> thanks
[15:18] <shally87> brb
[15:18] <FloodBot2> shally87: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <Basem> :(
[15:19] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, i have my key on the mit server and they say that they wont remove my key :(
[15:19] <Requiem974> ikonia: are you able to help me? :) just to 'start' the install? I got error when: qemu -boot d -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda xp.im  g
[15:19] <curan> sipior: thanks! do i have to restart any service in order to apply the changes?
[15:19] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: what do you want me to do about it ?
[15:19] <jon_> so how do i change my icon so the work better in kde?
[15:20] <sipior> Basem: try asking your question every ten minutes or so: the composition of the channel changes, and someone might have an answer for you
[15:20] <ikonia> Requiem974: you may want to ask in #qemu
[15:20] <ikonia> Requiem974: speciaist support
[15:20] <shally87> huhu FloodBot huhu..sad..i no flooding
[15:20] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, is there any way that i could either retrieve the keys or revoke it
[15:20] <Requiem974> ikonia thank you  :)
[15:20] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: you can't retreive it - you can revoke it with key server tools,
[15:20] <jon_> so how do i change my icon so the work better in kde?
[15:20] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: thats not an ubuntu issue though
[15:21] <sipior> curan: i believe sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart will sort it out for you
[15:22] <sipior> curan: you might want to test from a reboot, to ensure that the change has taken properly
[15:22] <fiftyone> hello everyone, I was wondering if someone could help me with a serious problem I am having I completely messed up my entire machine.  Basically I was trying to resize a partition on my laptop and i deleted my complete partition taleb
[15:23] <fiftyone> here is my post on ubunbtu forums
[15:23] <fiftyone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1064645
[15:23] <kavity> Did you delete the entire partition table, and then write it?
[15:23] <Basem> in ubuntu 8.04 when i try to install it under windows as windows program...after it creat the image is says cant access the image and other program may useing it
[15:23] <fiftyone> no i didnt write it
[15:24] <trent1> is there a way to see how long my computer has been on?
[15:24] <fiftyone> Kavity i didnn't write it
[15:24] <ikonia> trent1: uptime
[15:24] <kavity> trent1: In console type uptime
[15:24] <kavity> fiftyone: Then just exist the partiton manager, and your table should be fine?
[15:25] <trent1> thank you :)
[15:25] <csunew> after update  the Resolution in bios and tty become 740*400  from 1440*900  how can I do to recover
[15:25] <fiftyone> kavity,  I am currently logged in on the ubuntu live cd when i look at qparted all i have is one block of space no partitions
[15:25] <deany> fiftyone, if you dont hit apply,  just quit
[15:25] <kavity> fiftyone: If it hasn't been written, just push back, and your partitons should be fine.
[15:26] <sipior> fiftyone: the forum suggestion to use TestDisk (http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk) is probably your best bet.
[15:26] <oskar-> fiftyone, there is a tool to revocer partitions, if they were lost: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[15:26] <oskar-> hehe :)
[15:26] <sipior> hmm, great minds, oskar- :-)
[15:26] <kavity> Seldom tend to differ.
[15:26] <fiftyone> denay,sipior,oskar i will try testdisk
[15:26] <fluitfries> i broke Xubuntu trying to install Compiz`.  now my xfwm4 never loads so i have no window manager.  how can i fix?
[15:27] <tavi> hwre i can find files for /var/alsa ? cause i wanna replace them
[15:27] <tavi> ?
[15:27] <tavi> where
[15:27] <kavity> fluitfries: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[15:27] <kavity> Should install everything you need.
[15:27] <kavity> Again.
[15:28] <fluitfries> kavity: no, i installed that package (over my default Xubuntu packages) from synaptic last night, and it did not fix anything at all.  :(
[15:28] <Sp0tUbuntu> Hi! Whay are peple in the linux enviroment telling other people that linux works fine when i can tell that i have testet almost every ubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu/edobuntu/ and NONE of them can show my batterystate??
[15:28] <kavity> Yeah, thanks dennda, sipior, and oskar-  :(
[15:28] <Sp0tUbuntu> +x*
[15:28] <ikonia> Sp0tUbuntu: don't rant, we are here to help you try to fix your problem or guide you to the best possible solution
[15:28] <kavity> fluitfries: Try removing it and reinstalling?
[15:28] <Sp0tUbuntu> Right! Fix my battery please
[15:29] <fluitfries> kavity: it was never "installed" since Xubuntu doesn't mark the Xfce4 meta-package as installed after you install the OS.  :(
[15:29] <ikonia> Sp0tUbuntu: could you explain the problem please.
[15:29] <kavity> Sp0tUbuntu: First of all,*Ubuntu is only one distro of linux, so don't say stuff about the entire linux community.
[15:29] <kavity> fluitfries: No, it uses xubuntu-desktop, but you could always try installing xfce4 anyway?
[15:30] <whiteplane> gnome is broken  and kde4 sucks
[15:30] <tavi> any help?
[15:30] <whiteplane> why ubuntu does that?
[15:30] <Sp0tUbuntu> Vista, working! NO PROBLEMS! XP Working, NO PROBLEMS! Ubuntu = No battery?! Kubuntu = No battery!? Xubuntu = No battery?! Edubuntu = No battery?! :-)
[15:30] <fluitfries> kavity: ah ok, well in that case i think i will try remove/reinstall of the xubuntu-desktop meta-package.  might that work?
[15:30] <fiftyone> has anyone ever used this test dick before?
[15:30] <ikonia> tavi: you want to replace them with what ?
[15:30] <ikonia> DigitalFiz: ?
[15:30] <ikonia> fiftyone: ?
[15:30] <JesperHansen> Whats the location of the grub file that update-grub reads when making /boot/grub.cfg? (grub2)
[15:30] <fiftyone> test disk
[15:30] <tavi> whit the same file
[15:30] <con-man> fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x13437c)->({de4ba900-59ca-11cf-9592-444553540000} 2315 0 (nil) (nil))
[15:30] <Sp0tUbuntu> kavity: its the same with linux! Same behavioer
[15:30] <fiftyone> lol
[15:30] <ikonia> tavi: why ?
[15:30] <ikonia> tavi: why do you want to replace a file with the same file ?
[15:30] <tavi> cause i wanan get them to default values
[15:31] <kavity> Sp0tUbuntu: My ubuntu works fine, so did gentoo, and slackware when I used.
[15:31] <fiftyone> has anyone every used testdisk before?
[15:31] <Sp0tUbuntu> Ubuntu, just NOT works!
[15:31] <ikonia> tavi: then someone needs to give you a default file and you copy if over the top
[15:31] <con-man> mime3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:31] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\nssdbm3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:31] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\nspr4.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:31] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\softokn3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:31] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\ssl3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:31] <FloodBot2> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <ikonia> Sp0tUbuntu: I aske dyou not to rant
[15:31] <con-man> 0[146648]: nsNativeModuleLoader::LoadModule("C:\windows\gecko\0.9.0\wine_gecko\nss3.dll") - Symbol NSGetModule not found
[15:31] <tavi> exacly
[15:31] <Sp0tUbuntu> I didt
[15:31] <con-man> fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x13437c)->((null) 25 2 0x33d784 (nil))
[15:31] <Sp0tUbuntu> Just telling you the trueth
[15:31] <con-man> fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x13437c)->((null) 26 2 0x33d784 (nil))
[15:31] <kavity> Sp0tUbuntu: If I unplug my laptop power chord right now I can see how much battery I have left.
[15:31] <con-man> fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer (0x13437c)->(0x33d7c0)
[15:31] <Sp0tUbuntu> I cant!
[15:31] <tavi> so where i can find yjhe files?
[15:31] <tavi> the
[15:31] <ikonia> Sp0tUbuntu: could you explain the problem please, I missed it with the flood
[15:31] <Sp0tUbuntu> havent been able to at ALL in any UBUNTU
[15:32] <ikonia> tavi: someone with a default file needs to share it
[15:32] <csunew> How to modify  the resolution  of tty
[15:32] <ikonia> Sp0tUbuntu: I wonn't ask you again to stop ranting - please explain the problem
[15:32] <tavi> ubuntu site har nowhere the original files?
[15:32] <Sp0tUbuntu> I have no battery status @ Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Xubuntu / Edubuntu!
[15:32] <tavi> have
[15:32] <Sp0tUbuntu> I have no battery status @ Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Xubuntu / Edubuntu!
[15:32] <Sp0tUbuntu> I have no battery status @ Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Xubuntu / Edubuntu!
[15:32] <Sp0tUbuntu> I have no battery status @ Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Xubuntu / Edubuntu!
[15:32] <FloodBot2> Sp0tUbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <centr0> lol
[15:33] <dmphotography> Quick question . . what's the default password for user root on phpmyadmin?
[15:33] <tavi> ikonia: ?
[15:33] <kavity> Sp0tUbuntu: Do you have acpi installed?
[15:33] <Sp0tUbuntu> Ok! Then install Vista you say?
[15:33] <Sp0tUbuntu> yes
[15:34] <tavi> where ic an find default files of ubuntu?
[15:34] <kavity> In console type acpi
[15:34] <jtaji> dmphotography: it's your mysql root password
[15:34] <kavity> What do you get?
[15:34] <dmphotography> Is there one set by default?
[15:34] <dmphotography> NM, I found it.
[15:35] <erUSUL> Sp0tUbuntu: yes leave as alone and go to ##windows ask there how to install Vista. Good Luck
[15:35] <ikonia> tavi: someone will have to share them with you, or you'll have to unpackage a ubuntu .deb package from the repo
[15:35] <kavity> erUSUL: Bad answer.
[15:35] <UncleG> I am using pmb2g3 and everytime I convert a pbm file it turns out to be too small and faxes poorly
[15:36] <tavi> unpack means like rar?
[15:36] <UncleG> the fax is just extra small
[15:36] <UncleG> Any ideas?
[15:36] <kitche> kavity: not really if he wants to install Vista just let him but then again you care what peopel run many others do not
[15:36] <kavity> tavi: Unpacking a .deb file is dpkg -i devfilename.deb
[15:36] <erUSUL> kavity: yes indeed but couldn't help myself from feeding the TROLL
[15:36] <tavi> aha
[15:37] <tavi> can you find me where i find  /var/lib/alsa/asound.state ?
[15:37] <kavity> kitche: I don't care what he runs, but if someone using linux wants help, I'd much rather continuously offer them assistance rather than tell them to go to windows.
[15:37] <ikonia> tavi: I've told you
[15:37] <tavi> well in repo how i do that?
[15:37] <ikonia> tavi: either a.) someone with a default file share it with you b.) unpack the alsa deb - in your case I suggest you ask someone in the channel to share
[15:38] <kavity> kitche: Helping eachother is one of the key things keeping linux going.
[15:38] <tavi> do you have?
[15:38] <ikonia> tavi: no, or I'd have offered it a long time ago
[15:38] <kitche> kavity: maybe but then again I don't care about if Linux is keep going or not really sicne Linux is just a kernel not an operating system
[15:38] <tavi> hmmm does someone have DEFAULT files from  /var/lib/alsa/asound.state ?
[15:39] <kavity> kitche: Without the linux kernel you wouldn't have the linux operating system.
[15:39] <ikonia> tavi: you may get a better response on the forum with a good title post
[15:39] <ikonia> tavi: more people will see it
[15:39] <tavi> sure
[15:39] <tavi> .....
[15:39] <ikonia> tavi: just a suggestion
[15:40] <Kokloco> Hi,
[15:41] <Basem> when i'm useing wubi i get this problem (could not access the Cd, please make sure other applications are not useing it and try agin)
[15:41] <bo7amny> i have ubuntu and mint in the one computer and it start mint first in boot how can i make it start ubuntu first in boot?
[15:41] <Kokloco> I have been sent JPEG pictures from a Windows User. When I open them with any program in Ubuntu, the colors are not the same as the originall. Also if I open them using another XP partition, the colors are correct. I have to open them in XP with Paint, save them again, and then when I open them in Ubuntu the colors are ok. Can anyone help me pleae?
[15:41] <fluitfries> i broke Xubuntu trying to install Compiz`.  now my xfwm4 never loads so i have no window manager.  how can i fix?  i'm looking for suggestions to try when i get a chance later today.  thanks!
[15:42] <kavity> fluitfries: Did you try installing xfce4 like I suggested?
[15:42] <fluitfries> kavity: ^ looking for more suggestions for trying later.  and yes i had already tried that.  :)
[15:43] <sipior> bo7amny: you can change the default boot in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:43] <bo7amny> thanks
[15:44] <Kokloco> I have been sent JPEG pictures from a Windows User. When I open them with any program in Ubuntu, the colors are not the same as the originall. Also if I open them using another XP partition, the colors are correct. I have to open them in XP with Paint, save them again, and then when I open them in Ubuntu the colors are ok. Can anyone help me pleae?
[15:44] <vernet> hey... I'm looking for an X expert... I'm trying to get some a set of 3 touchscreens working with it... I got them working with the evtouch driver, but when the monitors go into power save mode or are manually shut off, X loses the touchscreen capability permanently... how would I go about fixing that?
[15:45] <Basem> when i'm useing wubi i get this problem (could not access the Cd, please make sure other applications are not useing it and try agin)
[15:46] <sipior> Basem: is there something else using the cd drive?
[15:46] <erUSUL> Kokloco: maybe something to do with color management  of screen or color profiles in the app that saves them in windows ??
[15:47] <Basem> no sipior
[15:48] <Kokloco> erUSUL, the tool used in windows is Photoshop, but when opened with Paint the colors look ok, the probem is when opened with any tool in UBuntu
[15:48] <linux_guy> My wireless only works on startup about 60% of the time.  I ran a few commands and posted my output here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6710456#post6710456  What should I do to correct this?
[15:49] <Basem> any help
[15:49] <XoroZ> I wrote a script to auto connect
[15:49] <fluitfries> Kokloco: you can customize your color profiles in Photoshop.  you may have to start using one that is more compatible.  not sure which one it will be but you can try the settings.
[15:50] <linux_guy> XoroZ, i auto connect 40% of the time...
[15:51] <aDMid0RAS> guys some1 can help me i want to ask about instaling something pm m
[15:51] <linux_guy> aDMid0RAS, what are you installing?
[15:52] <aDMid0RAS> i downloaded m8 teamviewer for linux and it appears teamviewer.exe and i dunno what to type in terminal maybe to instal the program
[15:52] <vm158> абвгд
[15:52] <linux_guy> i use teamviewer under wine
[15:52] <vm158> ух ты бля работает вроде
[15:53] <Kokloco> fluitfries, ok, just wanted to know the reason. The pictures were done by a web template designer, so I dont have access to them. I am programming the web site using Linux, so I noticed that the colors were not the same
[15:53] <Kokloco> fluitfries, the trick that I found is openening them first in Paint (XP), save them again, and send them to Ubuntu. After this they look ok.
[15:53] <linux_guy> aDMid0RAS, have you read this?  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-do-i-install-teamviewer-669462/
[15:53] <fluitfries> Kokloco: yea don't mess with them then.  the reason is due to color profiles in the differing OS's.  leave the profile alone and all the windows users of those files won't notice a thing.  :)
[15:54] <vm158> does anybody speaks russian? or is there russian channel here?
[15:54] <aDMid0RAS> no m8 ill check it :)
[15:54] <erUSUL> !ru | vm158
[15:54] <fluitfries> Kokloco: ok, that basically means that Paint is rewriting the profile to be more compatible.  you could always ask your designer to use a more compatible profile.
[15:54] <mick02> Afternoon all
[15:55] <Kokloco> fluitfries, yeah, I will tell him.
[15:55] <Kokloco> fluitfries, thanks
[15:55] <aDMid0RAS> ok but what is the linux box that the site says
[15:55] <fluitfries> Kokloco: np.  ;)
[15:55] <linux_guy> aDMid0RAS, i'll pm
[15:55] <aDMid0RAS> ok
[15:56] <mick02> Has anyone ever set up and used the Ultimate Deployment Appliance? www.ultimatedeployment.org
[15:57] <ikonia> mick02: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[15:57] <ikonia> mick02: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[15:58] <csunew> sudo shutdown -h now
[15:58] <Davedan>  hi. when I'm trying to type a single quote ' in the command line I get ` only on the seccond press
[15:58] <mick02> ikonia I'm going to deploy it on a Ubuntu server and then use it to pull a Ubuntu image onto machines on the LAN using PXE
[15:58] <Davedan> how can I fix/change that?
[15:58] <ikonia> mick02: ok - so it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:58] <hyakuhei> Is there a way to purge unused configuration files - after the package has been removed? I guess it would be difficult
[15:58] <mick02> ikonia - erm yeah it does
[15:59] <Basem> when i'm useing wubi i get this problem (could not access the Cd, please make sure other applications are not useing it and try agin)
[15:59] <mick02> Basem, what syatem are you using Wubi on?
[16:00] <mick02> Basem, are you running a Windows OS and trying to run Ubuntu through Wubi on it?
[16:00] <deany> hyakuhei, i guess without lookin for them manually (like files/folders in your home folder starting with a dot)  install em again and then remove --purge
[16:00] <sagredo> test
[16:01] <hyakuhei> deany: I'm going to head down the manual route but I hadn't thought about installing and then removing with purge, nice tip - thanks
[16:03] <Kryzler> My ubuntu 8.10 doesn't like vpn connections... anyone know how I can sort it out?
[16:03] <Kryzler> I've installed the vpn network manager plugin thing
[16:03] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/116489/ .... does this mean that my first key is revoked??
[16:03] <CarlFK> where is the validation that causes "This value must contain only letters, numbers, underscores, dashes or slashes." in flatpages.model:     url = models.CharField(_('URL'), max_length=100, db_index=True)
[16:03] <Kryzler> the pptp version
[16:03] <Basem> mick02 windows XP sp2
[16:03] <CarlFK> whoppps, wrong #chan
[16:04] <mick02> Basem, so what happens once you download and run Wubi
[16:04] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: stop asking in here - I told you earlier this is not an ubuntu problem
[16:04] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, :S sorry
[16:04] <porter1> Anyaone know if I can set up my desktop ubuntu machine to allow internet access to my laptop using its space ethernet port?
[16:04] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: managing 3rd party keyservers is nothing to do with ubuntu support
[16:04] <Basem> i get this msg could not access the Cd, please make sure other applications are not useing it and try agin
[16:05] <mick02> Basem, and there's nothing in the CD or anything? Are you a local admin on your XP box?
[16:05] <Kryzler> Basem - Are other applications using it?
[16:05] <Basem> yes nothing but ubntu 8.04 cd and yes i'm the admin
[16:05] <sipior> Basem: out of curiosity, is this 8.04, or 8.10?
[16:05] <ArcSighter> ikonia: About the ADS issue I was following http://tecnoticias.info/tips-comentarios/aplicaciones-varias/autentificacion-de-squid-contra-active-directory.html but I got this error when trying to connect: [2009/02/10 10:56:06, 0] utils/net_ads.c:ads_startup(289)
[16:05] <ArcSighter>   ads_connect: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[16:06] <sipior> Basem: have a look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/237198
[16:06] <KenBW2> is there a way to XSane Image Scanner to only scan a specified region?
[16:06] <linux_guy> man..... i hate it when people ask for help and then leave
[16:06] <ArcSighter> ads_connect: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[16:07] <linux_guy> My wireless only works on startup about 60% of the time.  I ran a few commands and posted my output here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6710456#post6710456  What should I do to correct this?
[16:07] <Basem> i'll check it
[16:07] <mick02> Basem, remove the Ubuntu CD, as far as I'm aware Wubi downloads the image
[16:07] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, can i PM you?
[16:07] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: no thanks
[16:07] <gibson> is there anyway to do like a 'DNS flush' in ubuntu?
[16:07] <linux_guy> lol
[16:08] <gibson> or rather, a a ipconfig release/renew?
[16:08] <Indgio> What are the standard system requirements for murmur?
[16:08] <mick02> gibson, have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:09] <gibson> I have not, I am still learning the shell
[16:09] <gibson> what file is init.d?
[16:09] <mick02> gibson, if that doesn't work try sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[16:09] <mick02> init.d is a directory gibson
[16:09] <Indgio> What are the standard system requirements for murmur?
[16:09] <odeland> I'm looking to build an office server with ubuntu. does anyone know a good place where I can get motherboard/general hardware review for that kind of stuff?
[16:09] <gibson> ah so it is
[16:10] <gibson> what does the init.d directory hold? networking configs etc
[16:10] <ikonia> !hcl | odeland
[16:10] <mick02> Gibson the /etc/init.d directory contains the scripts executed by init at boot time
[16:10] <Indgio> thx
[16:10] <Gnea> !init | gibson
[16:11] <gibson> Okay, thanks that makes snes
[16:12] <gibson> init is short for initilaztion yah?
[16:13] <gibson> without the spelling errors
[16:13] <Gnea> gibson: yup
[16:13] <porter1> initialization!
[16:14] <gibson> jeez, the file system makes a lot of sense once you figure out what they all stand for, much easier than *duh duh duh* windows! >_>
[16:14] <Daft_Punk> gibson, well how do you figure out what it all stands for then? because the file system in linux is still bonkers to me
[16:15] <gibson> the ubuntuforums and help docs have a lot on the file system
[16:15] <Daft_Punk> oh, so it involves reading, doh
[16:15] <gibson> I think ubotto has a link
[16:15] <gibson> lol yeah =O
[16:15] <Daft_Punk> !file system
[16:15] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: as if the filesystem in windows isn't bonkers? :)
[16:15] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, hmm it is flawed but i understand it
[16:16] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: same basic concepts apply, just applied differently
[16:16] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, as far as i understand, in linux, there are several places programs are installed, when in windows its 1 folder
[16:16] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: ext2 & 3 are more like NTFS than FAT32, in the sense that both support permissions and such
 as far as i understand, in Windows, there are several places programs are installed
[16:17] <Daft_Punk> ZeroA4, oh?
[16:17] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: well, that's a matter of debate - i've seen, still, some older programs install in places other than \Program Files\, but that's a digression of discussion
[16:17] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, not in this channel anyway (the discussion)
[16:18] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: exactly. :)
[16:18] <ZeroA4> Daft_Punk, They install things on system folders, on system registry, on user data aplication folders and the like
[16:18] <Daft_Punk> ZeroA4, well i do admit the registry is insane
[16:18] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: but instead of using drive letters, unix uses a flat-look at the filesystem - everything is stored, ultimately in root - /
[16:19] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: other partitions and disks simply get added onto the / somewhere
[16:19] <gibson> I like how everything is a file
[16:19] <Daft_Punk> honestly i do like the drive letters, but all my drives are networked
[16:20] <Daft_Punk> well i think we all like the unrestricted access
[16:20] <Gnea> are you looking to do some linux+windows network filesystem integration?
[16:20] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, already have
[16:20] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: :D
[16:20] <KenBW2> is there a graphical equaliser for ubuntu?
[16:20] <ZeroA4> Daft_Punk, one thing i miss in windows is opening an synaptic selecting an instaled program and by click on propreties have a list of all the files of that program and they location
[16:20] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, you do mean recognizing the windows network drives right?
[16:21] <Gnea> KenBW2: some audio programs have them, like audacious
[16:21] <kohlmannj> to anyone:  this is probably a shipment of fail, and I might  be in the wrong place, but I'm new at this.  let's say I'm on an OLPC XO, I have the OLPC kernel source, and I'd like to compile the Bluetooth and appropriate  HCI kernel modules.  how would I proceed?
[16:21] <fiftyone> hello again ubuntu friends!
[16:21] <Daft_Punk> ZeroA4, well they both have their pros and cons, but windows seems to have more cons
[16:21] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: right - both ways
[16:21] <KenBW2> Gnea: but no system-wide one?
[16:21] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, both ways? no, i just have it the one way actually, i havnt found a need to reverse it, but im sure if i did i could
[16:21] <Gnea> KenBW2: no
[16:22] <fiftyone> Can someone help me use gparted? I have a bunch of unallocated space i want to add to my ubuntu machine but the last time i played with qparted i near ruined everything
[16:22] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: hrm - i meant that, one way is for windows to read linux shares using samba, and the other way for linux to read windows shares with smbclient
[16:22] <sipior> fiftyone: did you get your partitions back, then?
[16:22] <MacGyverNL_> I have a laptop with a hardware switch for the wireless card. The card is confirmed to work, and under windows, I can arbitrarily turn it on and off. However, when I turn it on now, Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't seem to pick it up.
[16:22] <Promille> Hey guys. Need a little help: If I tend to let my computer on during the night, and leave it on, there is no sound when i come back. I'm using ALSA and I have tried restarting it with sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart    It successfully restart, but still no sound. Only way to fix it, as I know, is to restart the system, which i hate to do. Any suggestions kind fellas?
[16:22] <MacGyverNL_> Do I have to modprobe something to enable wireless now, and if so, what should I look for?
[16:23] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, right well ive done linux to windows and linux to linux shared drives, not windows to linux as ive not had a need
[16:23] <Gnea> MacGyverNL_: you might have to
[16:23] <fiftyone> sipior, Yea! how cool ah? my linux partition works wonderful everything is how i left it, testdisk is a lifesaver i wish i could kiss the people who wrote it!!!
[16:23] <sipior> fiftyone: glad it worked out for you
[16:23] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: aah - are you familiar with NFS?
[16:23] <ArcSighter> "Failed to set servicePrincipalNames. Please ensure that
[16:23] <ArcSighter> the DNS domain of this server matches the AD domain,
[16:23] <ArcSighter> Or rejoin with using Domain Admin credentials." I got this error when trying to join to AD domain, Anyone knows why?
[16:23] <ArcSighter>  
[16:23] <FloodBot2> ArcSighter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, not particularily
[16:24] <fiftyone> sipior thanks alot man, i think that i lost the windows partition because it is still coming up unallocated but thats cool with me i got in this mess trying to delete it in the first place.
[16:24] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: okay - how did you do linux-to-linux shared drives?
[16:24] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, wizard
[16:24] <fiftyone> basically what i need now is to turn this unallocated space into a storage partition
[16:24] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: wut?
[16:25] <gibson> the alltell wizard? heh
[16:25] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, i used a wizard that helped me make a folder into a shared folder in linux, then i used another GUI wizard to connect to that shared folder
[16:25] <Gnea> that one ran himself into a ditch ;)
[16:25] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: oooh, okay
[16:25] <sipior> fiftyone: if you fire up gparted from ubuntu, you can reclaim that space easily enough.
[16:25] <fluitfries> i broke Xubuntu trying to install Compiz`.  now my xfwm4 never loads so i have no window manager.  how can i fix?  i'm looking for suggestions to try when i get a chance later today.  thanks!
[16:25] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, you asked if i understand NFS, no i dont understand the concept of it at all, or the commands to do it in terminal
[16:25] <technopagan> hi! I just setup Evolution. Whenever a new mail arrives (IMAP with subfolders), a copy of it automagically appears in Evolution's trash and is marked as "Unread".  This is irritating. How do I stop this?
[16:25] <gibson> I actually setup samba last night to do win-linux file sharing, was incredibly easy
[16:26] <fiftyone> sipior i'm in gparted now but honestly im afraid of it lol
[16:26] <MacGyverNL_> Gnea: How do I find out which module is usually used for wireless, without rebooting?
[16:26] <sipior> fiftyone: actually, if you only have the one windows partition, just make a filesystem on it, no need to repartition
[16:26] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: well, basically NFS and smb/cifs work the same way - you'd be mounting a filesystem, only across the network
[16:26] <gibson> fiftyone: as long as you didnt boot to gparted you can't hurt your current partition...i think
[16:26] <Promille> Hey guys. Need a little help: If I tend to let my computer on during the night, and leave it on, there is no sound when i come back. I'm using ALSA  and I have tried restarting it with sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart    It successfully restart, but still no sound. Only way to fix it, as I  know, is to restart the system, which i hate to do. Any suggestions kind fellas? (Ubuntu 8.10)
[16:27] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, right, my shared windows drives are mounted in linux over the network, but they only MOUNT in linux when i go to the shared drive, otherwise they dont mount on bootup, but mounting takes seconds
[16:27] <sipior> fiftyone: gibson: yes, i believe gparted refuses to operate on mounted partitions. still, better safe than sorry... :-)
[16:27] <odeland> Promille: sounds like your hardware went to sleep
[16:27] <fiftyone> sipior? yea? thing is i have 3 partitions here that have unallocated space 80gb 3.8gb and 15.mb howw can I merge them all together? which type of file system should I use  for storage ( fat32 etc?
[16:27] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: you can make them mount at bootup by editting /etc/fstab correctly
[16:28] <Promille> odeland: yeah, seems like it. Do you know anything how i can wake it up^^ ?
[16:28] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, well as i said, its not necessary they mount at bootup, since half the time i dont require them
[16:28] <Gnea> MacGyverNL_: can you pastebin the output of the lsmod command?
[16:28] <sipior> fiftyone: do you know the device names for the three partitions? something like /dev/sda1, that sort of thing?
[16:28] <odeland> Promille:no idea, sorry
[16:28] <Promille> kk, thanks anyway :)
[16:29] <fiftyone> sipior no, it is just coming up as unallocated
[16:29] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: ah, okay - I misunderstood then, thought perhaps you were looking for a simpler way of doing network sharing
[16:29] <anonusing> hi, i made a tomboy note earlier today but, i can't find it now
[16:29] <fiftyone> i love tomboy
[16:29] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, no, the way i have it set up works perfectly for my needs, but thanks for trying to improve my quality of life with linux
[16:30] <MacGyverNL_> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f2f8f96a4
[16:30] <anonusing> i just closed the window for the tomboy note i made
[16:30] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: you're welcome ;)
[16:30] <anonusing> so it would save automatically but, now i can't find it
[16:30] <anonusing> but it says the name for is still taken but, it doesn't come up in a search
[16:30] <MacGyverNL_> Also, iwconfig works (as a command), but it doesn't list ath0 which is usually the wireless card.
[16:31] <whatev>  how can you tell if a single port on a remote machine is being listened on
[16:31] <sipior> fiftyone: well, you can allocate the free space into as many partitions as you like, although one is of course simplest
[16:31] <anonusing> does anyone know how to find tomboy notes?
[16:31] <Gnea> MacGyverNL_: i don't think i see it there
[16:31] <unique> does anyone know which chmod themes in phpnuke should be?
[16:32] <Gnea> unique: the people in #phpnuke should know
[16:32] <Daft_Punk> anonusing, use ctrl+f2 and type in tomboy?
[16:32] <fiftyone> sipior, basically i have my ubuntu partition here and I am hap that however, i want to keep a partition  just for backup and  storage.
[16:32] <MacGyverNL_> Gnea: In other words, the wireless card *has* to be turned on on boot in order to work?
[16:32] <Daft_Punk> anonusing, sorry i meant alt+f2
[16:32] <sipior> fiftyone: this is all on one disk, correct?
[16:32] <fiftyone> i would like to take this 80someodd gig and make it a storage disk
[16:33] <Gnea> MacGyverNL_: i'm not sure. try this: open a terminal and watch the logs like this:  tail -f /var/log/syslog    while you're doing that, turn the wifi switch on and see what happens in the log
[16:33] <anonusing> daft_punk, i can find tomboy, just not the specific note
[16:33] <fiftyone> yea one 160gb disk
[16:33] <lianimator> where can I find developers responsible for a keyboard layout (mm)?
[16:33] <anonusing> daft_punk, i should have a total of three notes but, there are only two listed there
[16:33] <sipior> fiftyone: could you pastebin the result of "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda"?
[16:33] <Daft_Punk> anonusing, well perhaps it was deleted
[16:34] <fiftyone> sipior, 1  sec
[16:34] <anonusing> daft_punk, the name i used for that note, it won't let me use it for any new notes because it says the name is taken
[16:34] <Favorit> hmmz
[16:34] <MacGyverNL_> Gnea: Already did that. Nothing turns up.
[16:34] <fiftyone> !pastebin
[16:35] <anonusing> daft_punk, it says "a note with that title already exists"
[16:35] <mick02> anonusing have you typed tomboy into the terminal?
[16:35] <Gnea> MacGyverNL_: then give it a reboot and have it turned on at boot-time - when it's up and running, do another pastebin of lsmod
[16:35] <anonusing> mick02, yes
[16:35] <fatbrain> Should I be able to connect my bluetooth keyboard with Ubuntu after it's been paired with my Windows XP or do I have to remove the paring from Windows first?
[16:36] <immortaly007_> hi guys, uhm, my emerald theme manager isn't importing stuff... it sais: "Error stating file '/home/immortaly007/Desktop': No such file or directory"
[16:36] <MacGyverNL_> Meh, I'll do a reboot and find out.
[16:36] <Daft_Punk> anonusing, go to home, show hidden files, and go to .tomboy and the notes should be stored there by default
[16:36] <fiftyone> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/116502/
[16:36] <Gnea> fatbrain: if you pair it with linux, winxp should lose the pair automatically
[16:36] <aboSamoor> Hi, I can use my external mic to record but not to make conversation over empathy or ekiga ? Any idea ?
[16:37] <fatbrain> Gnea: problem is the hcitool scan doesn't show me the keyboard... I can see it if I do a hcitool info <bdaddr>
[16:38] <Kokloco> I have a folder with 50 jpeg pictures. Is there any tool that I can program to open automatically each on and cut a portion and save it as another picture? (for the all 50 pictures)
[16:38] <Gnea> fatbrain: at all? or how about it you unpair it with winxp?
[16:38] <Daft_Punk> fatbrain, windows and linux can have settings to connect to the bluetooth keyboard, but the keyboard will only be paired with one device (the last device it was connected to)
[16:38] <fatbrain> Gnea: havn't tried to unpair it yet, will try that now
[16:38] <anonusing> daft_punk, yes thanks, i found an xml document with the info there
[16:38] <anonusing> i understand what happened to the actual note though. it's kind of scary if it just "lost" it or something
[16:39] <anonusing> i don't*
[16:39] <sipior> fiftyone: all right, you can delete that partition using fdisk. try "sudo fdisk /dev/sda". then hit "p" to print the partition table, "d" to select a partition for deletion, and then "1" to specify the first partition (which looks to be your windows partition)
[16:39] <Daft_Punk> anonusing, honestly i dont understand why it would disappear either....
[16:39] <anonusing> thanks anyways
[16:39] <Daft_Punk> np
[16:39] <fatbrain> Daft_Punk: So I can't use my keyboard on both windows and ubuntu without paring/unpairing on reboots?
[16:39] <Daft_Punk> fatbrain, right
[16:39] <mick02> anonusing, try going into the .tomboy folder ... do a ls-lrt in that folder then finding the most recent note use vi most_recent_note and then chenge the bottom option <open-on-startup> to True
[16:40] <fatbrain> Daft_Punk: Strange :S
[16:40] <Daft_Punk> fatbrain, any bluetooth device can only be connected to ONE device at a time, because that way it wont be controlling multiple devices, so if you want to use it on linux you have to re-pair the devices, if you want to use it on windows, you have to pair it again with windows etc...
[16:41] <Kokloco> I have a folder with 50 jpeg pictures. Is there any tool that I can program to open automatically each on and cut a portion and save it as another picture? (for the all 50 pictures) I saw in someplace that there was a cosole app that can do this..
[16:41] <sipior> Kokloco: ImageMagick will do that quite handily
[16:41] <Gnea> Daft_Punk, fatbrain: what they need to produce is a bluetooth kvm ;)
[16:41] <fatbrain> Daft_Punk: But my Windows / Linux is on the same machine, same bluetooth dongle. Surely the paring must result in some type of "configuration" that I can share between windows/linux
[16:41] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, yeah a bluetooth kvm would be awesoe
[16:41] <Daft_Punk> awesome*
[16:41] <Kokloco> sipior, ok, that's what I was looking for, thanks mate
[16:42] <Daft_Punk> fatbrain, doesnt matter, the are different operating systems and your bluetooth device sees it as two different machines
[16:42] <fiftyone> sipior,  you sure? i'm afraid
[16:42] <fiftyone> lol
[16:43] <fiftyone> sipior,  it's asking me for partition 1-4
[16:43] <sipior> fiftyone: then don't do it :-) this is a good time to ensure that you have a current backup
[16:43] <Daft_Punk> fatbrain, i understand what you want accomplished and as far as i know it cant be done since the bluetooth device can only be paired with one device by default and each OS is looked at, as another device... i could suggest perhaps contacting the manufacturer for the keyboard or posting on a bluetooth forum
[16:44] <sipior> fiftyone: you know, another possibility would be to use gparted to copy the linux partition over the windows one. you could then expand the linux partition however you wanted.
[16:44] <fatbrain> Gnea: I unpaired it and now when I try to pair it I get a "paring failed" message, it's not even asking for a pin
[16:44] <fiftyone> sipior,  you said it wont let me delete mounted partitions?
[16:44] <j-m> #clx sur 9faure.net
[16:44] <fiftyone> sipior,  that sounds like a good idea
[16:44] <fatbrain> Daft_Punk: yes, will do my best to find some more information on my problem, thanks
[16:45] <Daft_Punk> fatbrain, if you do and im still here i hope you wouldnt mind sharing your discovery if you do find a way around it
[16:45] <Gnea> Daft_Punk: ha! http://www.zonetusa.com/products-113.aspx
[16:45] <sipior> fiftyone: of course, then you'd have to make sure grub was happy. maybe just simpler to blow the windows partition away. make sure you have a current backup of your data.
[16:45] <orudie> hi. what is the best way to set up an FTP server ?
[16:45] <Gnea> fatbrain: try resetting the keyboard?
[16:45] <fatbrain> Gnea: I just did, nothing happend
[16:46] <Daft_Punk> Gnea, interesting...
[16:46] <spitzi> Hi, I've just started using Ubuntu on my home PC. O:-)
[16:46] <ArcSighter> I got "Failed to set servicePrincipalNames. Please ensure that the DNS domain of this server matches the AD domain, Or rejoin with using Domain Admin credentials" Waht's going on?
[16:46] <Daft_Punk> spitzi, congrats
[16:46] <sameep> @orudie :  sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[16:47] <mick02> ArcSighter, what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:47] <spitzi> I'm using Pidgin, which constantly reports who joined and left the room. Can I somehow disable this ?
[16:47] <ArcSighter> mick02: trying to join to a ADS domain using samba/winbind
[16:47] <Gnea> fatbrain: are you using a bluetooth dongle or is it built into the computer?
[16:47] <fatbrain> Gnea: dongle
[16:48] <Gnea> fatbrain: try reconnecting it
[16:48] <aaditya> spitzi: Enable the plugin "Join/Part hiding"
[16:48] <mick02> ArcSighter, is it a Windows Domain
[16:48] <fatbrain> Gnea: did that too :S
[16:48] <fiftyone> sipior,  i actually just rebilt grub
[16:48] <ArcSighter> mick02: a w2k3 ad domain
[16:48] <Gnea> o.O
[16:48] <fiftyone> sipior, ok im gonna just try and delete this things you said i cant delete mounted partitions>
[16:48] <mick02> ArcSighter, why don't you just use Likewise ... www.likewise.com
[16:49] <Akallab> Akallabeth
[16:49] <ArcSighter> mick02 I want to join this linux server to the AD domain
[16:49] <fatbrain> Gnea: Feels like I've been down every road atleast a couple of times
[16:49] <gustavo> hola
[16:49] <gustavo> hay gente?
[16:49] <ArcSighter> mick02: and I got that error
[16:50] <spitzi> aaditya - thanks. Now I also realize that plugins are the standard way to treat Pidgin. Is that a standard property of Linux applications ?
[16:51] <sipior> fiftyone: gparted won't let you, but fdisk won't be so clever, i think. i wasn't kidding about having a current backup, by the way.
[16:51] <lesshaste> hi all
[16:51] <aaditya> spitzi: yes, plugin support makes it easy to add features without rebuilding the whole thing
[16:51] <sipior> fiftyone: believe me, it reduced the stress of messing with your disk immensely :)
[16:51] <lesshaste> which X driver should I use for VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1) ?
[16:51] <lesshaste> X works but mplayer freezes for example so I must have something wrong
[16:51] <ArcSighter> so any clues about a linux server who can't join a ADS domain because of a error indicating the dns name of this server doesn't match the AD domain dn?
[16:52] <aaditya> achilles: are you the popular bot?
[16:52] <mick02> Arcsighter, have you tried to use Likewise on your server? I've got my desktop running on my Windows Domain here in work
[16:52] <Wunderbar> ok, problem with firefox opening as maximised for no apparent reason...
[16:52] <spitzi> Cool. See ya.
[16:52] <fiftyone> sipior,  yea i have a backup i made a few days ago, problem is i am afraid of deleteing it lol
[16:52] <Gnea> fatbrain: does it re-pair if you reboot ubuntu?
[16:52] <fatbrain> Gnea: will have to test, bbl *wave*
[16:52] <fiftyone> sipior, how do i delete it with fdisk again<?
[16:52] <sipior> fiftyone: ahh. i guess i meant, a backup on a different disk somewhere...
[16:52] <mick02> ArcSighter it sounds like there's something wrong in your config files
[16:52] <fiftyone> ah ok
[16:53] <sipior> fiftyone: "d" and then the partition number
[16:53] <ArcSighter> mick02: it isn't a desktop
[16:53] <Droopsta915> Is there a tool I can download that tells me all my computer specifications, or some type of info on what hardware Im running?
[16:53] <fiftyone> sipior,  how do i make sure i am choosing the correct one>
[16:53] <Gnea> Droopsta915: should already be there: lshw
[16:53] <zerothis1> when I add a new user to my system, the new user boots to a blank tan background and nothing else.
[16:53] <mick02> ArcSighter, I never said that it was
[16:53] <sipior> fiftyone: the partition type should be listed in the right-most column when you print the table
[16:54] <ArcSighter> mick02: the error is telling that my dns name in the server doesn't match the dns of the AD domain, what should I try?
[16:54] <mick02> ArcSighter, have you even looked at Likewise? They provide a command line utility to join domains ... why don't you just take a look at it and then if it doesn't do what you're looking for come back to me
[16:54] <lesshaste> how do I tell if I am on hardy or ibex?
[16:54] <ArcSighter> lesshaste: lsb_release -a
[16:54] <lesshaste> ArcSighter, thanks
[16:54] <mick02> ArcSighter, have you got a Windows box attached to the domain?
[16:55] <lesshaste> ArcSighter, how do I start the restricted driver thing to see if there is something for my graphics card?
[16:55] <ArcSighter> mick02: yes of course I do
[16:55] <_VIM_> lesshaste: if it works flawlessly it's hardy,,, ;)
[16:55] <fiftyone> sipior,  when i hit p i get two listed /dev/sda1 which is says is boot andHPFS/NTFS the scond is my linx
[16:55] <PPKuma> hi, how can i upgrade my svn client? i have my OS up to date but i get a 'your svn client is too old' when trying to make 'svn update'
[16:55] <mick02> OK so, do you know the name of your Domain Controller?
[16:55] <Droopsta915> Gnea: I see it's installed, what is lshw gtk? And how do I use lshw? Sorry about all the questions. :)
[16:55] <ArcSighter> mick02: I'll go lunch to get new strengths I come back shorly
[16:55] <fiftyone> sipior,  this seems like it is only listing the two that it can read ie the two that i neeed to keep! lol
[16:55] <ArcSighter> mick02: yes of course I have the name, I'm network coadmin
[16:56] <ArcSighter> mick02: please pv me
[16:56] <Gnea> Droopsta915: open a terminal, type lshw and press enter :)
[16:56] <mick02> ArcSighter, I probably won't be here, but check out that link I sent you
[16:56] <Droopsta915> Gnea: thanks
[16:56] <sipior> fiftyone: oh, was your backup on an ntfs volume?
[16:56] <fiftyone> yes
[16:56] <fiftyone> it is
[16:57] <fiftyone> sipior, it is 40gb
[16:57] <sipior> fiftyone: try creating a new partition with "n", specify the beginning cylinder as 1
[16:57] <sipior> fiftyone: so "n", then "p" (for primary partition)
[16:57] <fiftyone> ok
[16:58] <fiftyone> sipior, partition number 1-4
[16:58] <juniecho> hi, running ubuntu 8.10 intrepid on hp tx2000 tablet pc (usb screen tablet), is it possible to install the tablet driver WITHOUT manually compiling it?
[16:58] <TopKatz> hello
[16:58] <fatbrain> Gnea: heh, I'll stop using linux for now :) thanks for your input anyway :)
[16:58] <TopKatz> is there a trick to get emerald to work in 8.1
[16:59] <TopKatz> ?
[16:59] <fosco__> TopKatz, there's no needing
[16:59] <fiftyone> sipior,  nevermind i just created a new 80gb partition fa32t
[16:59] <sipior> fiftyone: pick a number different from the two listed by fdisk
[16:59] <fiftyone> in gparted
[16:59] <sipior> fiftyone: ah, good.
[16:59] <TopKatz> how sould I change window themes then in 8.1?
[17:00] <Gnea> fatbrain: it didn't work?
[17:00] <fatbrain> Gnea: nope
[17:00] <fosco__> TopKatz, use emerald theme manager or system - preferences - appearance
[17:00] <TopKatz> emerald is not applying the theme
[17:00] <TopKatz> I see them in there, but selecting does nothing
[17:01] <fosco__> TopKatz, so you're not using emerald
[17:01] <TopKatz> I have it installed
[17:01] <TopKatz> I can select a theme, but it does not apply it
[17:01] <geoglitch> Is there an easy way to mount a disk from another computer's raid1 array to pull the data off in ubuntu server?
[17:01] <fosco__> to use emerald execute emerald --replace
[17:01] <TopKatz> k
[17:01] <ikonia> geoglitch: break the mirror, plug the disk in the new computer and mount it
[17:02] <ikonia> geoglitch: it's that simple
[17:02] <TopKatz> good call
[17:02] <TopKatz> that did it
[17:02] <Gnea> fatbrain: are you on 8.04 or 8.10?
[17:02] <fatbrain> Gnea: I'm on 8.10 (64-bit)
[17:02] <geoglitch> i've got the disk in my ubuntu server box but mount is saying: mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[17:03] <ikonia> geoglitch: what type of raid 1 is it, hardware or software ?
[17:03] <juniecho> hi, running ubuntu 8.10 intrepid on hp tx2000 tablet pc (usb screen tablet), is it possible to install the tablet driver WITHOUT manually compiling it? i mean, without './configure' 'sudo make install' so on, just some nice .deb packages...?
[17:03] <geoglitch> software
[17:03] <geoglitch> from a fedora core 2 server
[17:03] <ikonia> geoglitch: linux software ?
[17:03] <uiii> uhuuuhhaaahahaaaa :D
[17:03] <ikonia> geoglitch: or fake raid
[17:03] <geoglitch> yeah; linux software
[17:03] <ikonia> uiii: what ?
[17:03] <ikonia> goatslacker: run fdisk -l on it, what is the partition type
[17:04] <uiii> nothing it wos only a test :)
[17:04] <ikonia> uiii: please don't
[17:04] <uiii> ok
[17:04] <geoglitch> fdisk -l shows the device as /dev/sdd1 with ID fd (Linux raid autodetect)
[17:04] <ikonia> geoglitch: interesting, what file system was on the raid1 volume ?
[17:05] <Droopsta915> Will Ubuntu keep all my terminal command history, or does it erase after a certain period of time?
[17:05] <ikonia> Droopsta915: it's stored in .bash_history - it will keep it as long as there is space in that file
[17:05] <geoglitch> i believe it was ext2
[17:05] <ikonia> geoglitch: interesting, I've done this many times with ext3 and I've never seen that message
[17:06] <ikonia> geoglitch: maybe worth checking the FS type on the other system
[17:06] <goatslacker> ikonia, i would run fdisk -l but I'm compiling php/ffmpeg :P
[17:06] <Droopsta915> ikonia: gracias ;)
[17:06] <gibson> how do you change the default program that opens a file in intrepid? ie my music opens in totem instead of rythm
[17:06] <geoglitch> ikonia: running mount on the old server gives /dev/md0 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[17:06] <TopKatz> fosco__ that only works while I ahve the terminal open.  Do I need to put this call someplace?
[17:07] <ikonia> geoglitch: so ext3 is it, have you tried a mount -t ext3 ?
[17:07] <Dynamo_zjosss> networkkard 802.11n Wireless LAN Card   doesn't want to load, where do i find driver
[17:08] <geoglitch> ikonia: ok; that worked (I was trying to mount /dev/sdd rather than /dev/sdd1) = ouch
[17:08] <ikonia> geoglitch: ahhhh
[17:08] <ikonia> geoglitch: mount a partition, not a disk ;)
[17:08] <geoglitch> ikonia: funny how computers do just what you tell them to
[17:09] <geoglitch> ikonia: thanks for your help
[17:09] <ikonia> no sweat, you fixed it yourself
[17:09] <Dynamo_zjosss> networkkard 802.11n Wireless LAN Card   doesn't want to load, where do i find driver
[17:10] <TopKatz> were should I put emerald --replace to keep the theme loaded?
[17:10] <^hashbang_away^> TopKatz: Preferences->Sessions
[17:13] <vvk-> does anyone know why does it take so long for Firefox 3.0.6 to appear in official repositories?
[17:14] <deany> vvk-, just the way it is for a lot of apps..
[17:14] <deany> hopefully there aint no big vulnerability in 3.0.0.5 :)
[17:16] <vvk-> deany, nothing really serious, afaik.
[17:16] <deany> vvk-, is it in backports?
[17:16] <benste> someone here who can help me that evolution doesn't loose events during the sync of Google Calendar and Evolution? - Maybe it's related to the repetition of my events?
[17:16] <Scunizi> vvk-: bleeding edge is not really what the releases are all about. although they do try to incorporate the latest up to a certain point in time in the development of the next release
[17:17] <vvk-> deany, don't know. I'm just using the regular update checker.
[17:17] <Scunizi> benste: as far as I know you're only able to view g calendar events in Evo not create them
[17:18] <benste> that was until 2.21 as Google said :-)
[17:18] <vvk-> Scunizi, well I'm talking about 3.0.6, not 3.1.blah. The .6 is just a security update, so there should be reason to release it soonish.
[17:18] <Scunizi> benste: 2.21 of evo?
[17:18] <benste> Scunizi  http://johnnyjacob.wordpress.com/2006/04/30/google-calendar-in-evolution/
[17:19] <benste> Scunizi  2.24.3
[17:19] <benste> that's what I'm using
[17:19] <Scunizi> vvk-: ah.. security updates are done regularly.. could be your mirror hasn't populated yet or it hasn't been released..
[17:19] <renan_saddam> since 8.10 is not usingo sldap.conf anymore, how do I import the schemas (ie. samba schema) ?
[17:19] <deany> ive been checking for a few days, not on mine either. its just not been done yet by ubuntu
[17:20] <Scunizi> benste: I haven't really paid attention.. is that the version in 8.10?
[17:20] <benste> yes
[17:20] <benste> It has an option GOOGLE
[17:20] <vvk-> Scunizi, I Googled ubuntuforums and yesterday someone else there was asking about this thing also.
[17:20] <benste> it works
[17:20] <deany> vvk-, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-updates/web/
[17:20] <benste> but doesn't get all evnets
[17:20] <deany> 3.0.5 only there.
[17:20] <Scunizi> benste: interesting.. I've wanted that feature.. have you checked launchpad for bugs concerning the issue you're having?
[17:21] <juniecho> hey guys, is it possible for a newbie linux user to create his own .deb package?
[17:21] <Slart> juniecho: well.. anything is possible.. I doubt it would be easy though
[17:21] <Scunizi> juniecho: yes ..it's called compiling
[17:21] <benste> Scunizi: - yes but I didn't find one just all these old ones can't write - but I am able to write
[17:22] <Scunizi> benste: I'll have to check that out.. thanks for the tip.. if you can't figure out why the connector isn't working you might consider filing a bug
[17:22] <Slart> juniecho: what kind of package were you going to create?
[17:22] <zerothis1> juniecho: there are some GUI package creators. I don't recall thier names though
[17:23] <darthanubis> anyone have skype video working? 8.10 64bit?
[17:23] <juniecho> Slart, Scunizi, i'm doing this because i have a tablet pc, and the stylus pen is not enabled by default. tutorials i've found are like... doing some ./configure make... console things... i really don't want do that because i know that i have to do it every time when there is a kernel update.
[17:23] <benste> Scunizi: just thought someone else here may know more about it -
[17:23] <benste> --> does someone know more about sync of Google and Evo?
[17:24] <Slart> darthanubis: sometimes.. odd days, between 03.00 and 03.15.. if it's a full moon and jupiter is aligned with neptune..
[17:24] <Scunizi> juniecho: is the tablet function based on wacom?
[17:24] <juniecho> Slart/Scunizi// so i want to make this 'tablet driver' a .deb package file so i don't have to take care of it anymore
[17:24] <juniecho> Scunizi yes wacom usb tablet
[17:24] <Slart> juniecho: perhaps look at checkinstall
[17:24] <Slart> !checkinstall
[17:25] <renan_saddam> how do I include schemas to OpenLdap when using cn=config ?
[17:25] <clayg> how do i count words in a txt file? is there  a simple cli command?
[17:26] <Slart> clayg: wc?
[17:26] <Scunizi> juniecho: wacom functionality is built into ubuntu. sometimes there are tweeks you have to do to activate it. but you really shouldn't have to compile anything.. could be you went to the net first looking for a solution and landed on a "from scratch" type tutorials.. check www.ubuntufourms.org
[17:26] <benste> is there somewhere on this IRC a channel for evolution?
[17:26] <nDuff> benste, I'd look around on irc.gnome.org, rather than freenode
[17:27] <benste> thanks
[17:27] <clayg> Slart,  awesome thanks alot bro
[17:27] <Slart> clayg: you're welcome
[17:28] <juniecho> Slart, Scunizi, so i found this: http://mirosol.kapsi.fi/tx2020/tx2000howto.htm tutorial on tablet driver is on number 4... i tried it when i was using ubuntu 8.04 and it was successful... but could there be a better way?
[17:28] <fiftyone> i have a really easy silly question,, i have a nice pair of usb headphones, they worked just a few minutes ago now i cant figure why they are not working> how do i tell my soundcard that im using usb headphones?
[17:28] <gibson> is there a better music manager than rythm?
[17:29] <benste> amarok
[17:29] <Slart> juniecho: I wouldn't know.. I've never used ubuntu with a tablet.. I've never used a tablet at all, come to think of it
[17:29] <Slart> gibson: define "better", there are some that are different
[17:29] <rohit> hii neone tried glade with ruby ?
[17:30] <fiftyone> i have a really easy silly question,, i have a nice pair of usb headphones, they worked just a few minutes ago now i cant figure why they are not working> how do i tell my sound card that i'm using usb headphones?
[17:30] <juniecho> Slart: well then is there something like... um... Device Manager, like windows?
[17:30] <gibson> easier to use =)
[17:30] <gibson> lighter footprint
[17:31] <juniecho> i'd like to check whether the driver is loaded or not installed... how could i do that
[17:31] <Slart> juniecho: there used to be some kind of device manager.. but I think it disappeared along the way.. there are the usual terminal based tools to see hardware and such of course
[17:32] <Scunizi> juniecho: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[17:32] <juniecho> slart: oh that's okay, i'm not console-friendly but it's okay... how could i check the driver?
[17:33] <fosco__> TopKatz_, use fusion-icon to control compiz
[17:33] <benste> better install ccsm
[17:33] <juniecho> Scunizi, thanks, but i already checked on that page and installed those 2 driver/tool packages
[17:33] <benste> compiz-config-settings-manager
[17:33] <fiftyone> just wondering if anyone else uses a usb sound devise? i have usb headphones that don't seem to want to work for me. they worked before on ubuntu not sure why they are not workig now
[17:33] <alexmax> Help!  For some reason when i try clicking on anything in Gnome, instead of selecting anything it drags the window.  I can't click on a link in firefox, can't select OK or Cancel in a dialog box, it just drags everything!
[17:34] <alexmax> If I hold down ctrl or alt I can click on things, but then if ctrl-click or alt-click has something special associated with it, it does that
[17:34] <Slart> juniecho: wll.. if it's a kernel module you can always use "lsmod" to list those
[17:34] <alexmax> I was messing around with Compiz settings when this happened and I can't figure out what I changed to make this happen
[17:35] <Slart> alexmax: tried just tapping all your alt/shift/ctrl keys just to make sure they are not "stuck" so to speak
[17:35] <alexmax> Slart: I figured it out, apparently if I assign 'window menu' to nothing, it actually binds it to mouse3 and then i can only move.
[17:36] <alexmax> If I assign it back to alt-mouse3 it undoes it
[17:36] <alexmax> Nasty bug D:
[17:36] <Slart> alexmax: bah.. sounds annoying
[17:36] <alexmax> Slart: Where can I assign 'show desktop'
[17:36] <juniecho> Slart, Scunizi, i tried lsmod and the result was... http://pastebin.com/f16d44319 . i see 'wacom' at line 3
[17:36] <alexmax> super-f11 currently maximizes and I want it to show desktop
[17:37] <juniecho> so does it mean i have the driver already installed?
[17:37] <meshuggah> hello everyone
[17:37] <mustafa__> hi
[17:37] <kjell> hi meshuggah
[17:37] <Slart> alexmax: I have no idea.. there is a applet for the gnome panel that does it but I don't know how it's done
[17:38] <Slart> juniecho: then it seems the module is loaded
[17:38] <fiftyone> whats the best music player for linux>?
[17:38] <juniecho> alexmax, do you have compiz settings manager?
[17:38] <Slart> !best | fiftyone
[17:39] <Slart> fiftyone: I use quod libet.. it works for me
[17:39] <juniecho> Slart, is the 'module' same as 'driver'?
[17:39] <meshuggah> how can i use VNC on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[17:39] <Slart> juniecho: yes
[17:39] <fiftyone> thanks for that slart, however, i was just asking for opinions I like to check out different things, Sometimes I dont like ubot
[17:39] <Gnea> !vnc | meshuggah
[17:40] <meshuggah> ok thank you
[17:40] <meshuggah> !FreeNX
[17:40] <Gnea> freenx works quite well
[17:40] <Slart> fiftyone: then tell us what kind of media player you want? something big and shiny with lots of extras like amarok? or are you running it on a mini-itx server hidden in your car? you could use mpd in that case.. we don't know what you want
[17:40] <juniecho> Slart... so if it's almost-ready to use, could be there some extra steps...?
[17:41] <meshuggah> i want to convert my workmate to ubuntu, so i need to show it before
[17:41] <Gnea> meshuggah: i've actually experienced better throughput over the network with freenx
[17:41] <fiftyone> slart you ever use a usb headphone set>? I got a new one and i cant seem to get it working. it worked before on ubuntu, just cant seem to swich from the default speaker system  Slart, Amrok is great, but its big and clunkey something like winamp would be great
[17:41] <Slart> juniecho: possibly.. it would depend on the driver.. ask someone that uses it or has used it
[17:41] <[t]ekoperse> #ruoska
[17:42] <meshuggah> and i cant use a livecd, and i will be using windows 2000 with 56K modem at work, FreeNX will be good?
[17:42] <fiftyone> slart i have sound just not in my headphones arrg
[17:42] <sd32> !sound
[17:42] <Slart> fiftyone: then why didn't you say that from the beginning.. would have saved us all a lot of wear and tear on the keyboard =).. look at audacious.. it's winamp but without the media library.. I have no idea what to do about the bluetooth headset.. bluetooth isn't working for me at all on intrepid
[17:43] <deany> fiftyone, try audacious then.. Im still using xmms, works for me.
[17:43] <fiftyone> thanks :)
[17:43] <fiftyone> !thanks
[17:43] <fiftyone> lol
[17:43] <juniecho> Slart, one question... can you check this out, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom/LatestDriver , it tells me that i can install pre-built binaries, like sudo ./install, can this 'survive' a kernel update?
[17:44] <fiftyone> Slart its just a usb not bluetooth
[17:44] <Slart> juniecho: if it's a kernel driver you usually have to recompile it..
[17:45] <meshuggah> yeah! I am burning debian on a dvd with 0.1X speed on a 18X burner.......viva usb 1.0-1.1
[17:45] <Slart> ok, I've got to go make some dinner for the lovely wife.. see you all later
[17:45] <fiftyone> Slart, its a normal usb headphone no idea why i cant swch from default
[17:45] <fiftyone> slart thanks alot man have a nice dinner :D
[17:46] <juniecho> slart, yes but what if i install 'precompiled' drivers? do i have to reinstall?
[17:46] <sd32> how can i stop a usb sound device from stealing the sound?
[17:46] <fluitfries> i broke Xubuntu trying to install Compiz`.  now my xfwm4 never loads so i have no window manager.  how can i fix?  i'm looking for suggestions to try when i get a chance later today.  thanks!
[17:47] <mercutio22> Can someone recommend me a good tool to record a video of my desktop?
[17:48] <meshuggah> fluitfries : install : compuz fusion icon      with it you can change or restart window manager
[17:48] <Assid> we need better themese
[17:48] <Assid> the default human one .. well.. is just so so
[17:49] <freazer> does anybody have good URLs for how to configure bootloaders? Somebody told me to run dpkg -P lilo the other day and I'm not able to boot
[17:49] <fluitfries> meshuggah: compiz fusion icon is a package in synaptic?
[17:49] <meshuggah> fluitfries : yeah, i downloaded it there, and i am on xubuntu me too
[17:50] <{g}> Hey People! I often see our Ubuntu 8 machines hang for a second. For example, you want to close a tab in Firefox and it hangs for a second. Or you want to scroll in a Firefox window and it hangs for a second before it responds. Any ideas how to dive deeper into this?
[17:50] <fluitfries> meshuggah: the normal compiz package totally broke Xfce.  :(  i will try your suggestion, thanks!
[17:50] <fluitfries> {g}: got the right graphics drivers installed?
[17:51] <meshuggah> fluitfries : maybe it will work, i hope for you,
[17:51] <fluitfries> meshuggah: thanks!
[17:51] <deany> mercutio22, forget the exact name, something like gtk-recordmydesktop
[17:51] <{g}> fluitfries: never installed anything. just installed plain vanilla ubuntu. how would you go about the grafik drivers?
[17:52] <fluitfries> {g}: i cannot remember but i know that you need to get them installed.  also, if you are using compositor effects and not using the right drivers or perhaps not enough video memory, you might see this sort of "lag".  try a google search for ubuntu video drivers
[17:53] <fiftyone> anyone had usb headset problems? my usbheadset isnt working, it works on ubuntu fine i am sure but not sure why i cant get it to work on this machine
[17:53] <{g}> fluitfries: no idea if we use compositor effects
[17:53] <nDuff> fiftyone, does anything show up in dmesg when you connect it?
[17:54] <freazer> Nobody here has ever configured a bootloader before? My main issues are that my stuff is wrapped inside LVM and raid1 mirror with MDADM
[17:54] <fluitfries> {g}: they are 3D desktop/window management like what Mac OS X provides.  transparency, visual effects, etc...  probably not turned on by default.  there would be a setting in your preferences.
[17:54] <tiredbones>  vega, are you the person i was communicating with yesterday about HUB?
[17:54] <fluitfries> {g}: deal with the drivers first though.  :)
[17:54] <meshuggah> g : install Xubuntu it will be a little lighter
[17:54] <nDuff> freazer, we probably all have, but you asked for links, not help. :)
[17:55] <{g}> fluitfries: on the one machine, i looked and it says "no desktop effects"
[17:55] <nDuff> freazer, ...that said -- is your /boot on a raw (non-LVM) partition?
[17:55] <fiftyone> nDuff no i dont think so but it is showing up in the pefrences and in the alsa settings
[17:55] <fluitfries> {g}: good.  maybe if you get the drivers set up you'll be able to use them.  :)
[17:55] <fiftyone> and it worked with a different install of this ubuntu distro
[17:56] <freazer> nDuff: No, the Ubuntu Alternate 8.04 install CD said I could wrap /boot and everything inside the LVM, so I did.. and it's causing a ton of problems.
[17:56] <nDuff> fiftyone, have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?
[17:56] <nDuff> freazer, yar, everything *but* /boot in LVM isn't so bad, but putting /boot itself in there is trouble.
[17:56] <{g}> fluitfries: i have no idea how to go about the drivers
[17:57] <fluitfries> {g}: i can't tell you either.  use google.  ubuntu has wonderful support pages.  :)
[17:57] <{g}> anybody who knows how to check if the correct graphic drivers are installed?
[17:59] <freazer> nDuff: Which is why somebody told me to run dpkg -P lilo when I was asking for help with an unrelated issue, the general advice is "lilo sucks" when it in fact handles my particular boot environment very well. I had my OS backed up, I copied all the lilo.conf files back, but now when I run lilo to reinstall it's saying I don't have /proc/partitions right? so I'm afraid there might be certain system-level configurations that weren'
[17:59] <zippytech> i need to set my ip to static but when i look at the /etc/network/interfaces i only see auto lo    iface lo inet loopback,  nothing about eth0
[17:59] <freazer> nDuff: I basically want all the magic of the alternate Ubuntu 8.04 installer without having to actually format and start over ^^; any ideas?
[18:00] <nDuff> freazer, right -- LILO works for you precisely *because* it just loads from a recorded blocklist and doesn't try to do anything smart (reading the underlying filesystem), because LVM makes that smart stuff require a LVM-aware bootloader, and AFAIK those don't exist.
[18:00] <Rencx> i missed and deleta all Human icons how can i get them back?
[18:01] <freazer> nDuff: Thanks for explaining that, I'm still a little fuzzy about where that stuff resides, it doesn't seem to be a partition or take up any space on the normal drive
[18:02] <Rencx> I delete all Human icons how can i get them back? Also i dont now how to remove installed skin theme...
[18:03] <ice_cream> hi, is there a list online somewhere of the latest livecd list of applications?  (and versions, in particular)
[18:03] <freazer> Rencx: How exactly did you delete them all?
[18:03] <Rencx> sudo rm -rf
[18:04] <Rencx> freazer: sudo rm -rf i need find a copy of them
[18:04] <freazer> Rencx: Have you tried apt-get install --reinstall human-icon-theme ?
[18:05] <Rencx> freazer: no i will do it now
[18:05] <{g}> Anybody who knows how to find out which graphic card is in my computer?
[18:05] <fosco__> {g}, lspci | grep -i vga
[18:05] <ice_cream> i was just thinking about a gparted bootable disc, and i believe the ubuntu livecd alread has some version of gparted.. would be nice to know what sort of other stuff is there if i were to turn this into a kind of personalized ultimate boot disc =)
[18:05] <meshuggah> g : open your case
[18:05] <{g}> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[18:05] <{g}> fosco__: thanks
[18:05] <Pilot_51> Is Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop supposed to fit on a regular CD-R?
[18:06] <{g}> fosco__: any idea how to know which drivers to install for this monster?
[18:06] <^hashbang^> Pilot_51: yes
[18:06] <meshuggah> g :  put this line in google + ubuntu
[18:06] <Rencx> freazer: ty it worked, and how i can remove Human_O2??
[18:06] <freazer> ice_cream: Have you seen http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php ? They (and there others) that have prebuilt "ultimate" partition resizers and other tools
[18:07] <Pilot_51> I've tried twice (both AMD64 and i386) and when I try checking the CD integrity or running it live or installing it it gives an error "CD boot failed" or something like that
[18:07] <fiftyone> logitec usb headset i changed all the default sound devices to my logitec headset but i am still only getting sound from my speakers... in the sound options if I click test i get sound threw my headset nice and loud but for music./movies it comes threw my speakers..
[18:07] <marko-_-> where can you see when was the distribution installed ?
[18:07] <ice_cream> freazer, yes, i'm doing that too, but that was not my question
[18:07] <freazer> Pilot_51: What program are you using to burn the ISO?
[18:08] <Pilot_51> Deepburner
[18:08] <freazer> Rencx: I don't know enough about themes to advize you on that. Worst case scenario you can always reinstall?
[18:08] <Pilot_51> I'm on Windows 7 64-bit beta and apparently ISO Recorder and the Windows ISO burner don't recognize the blank CD
[18:09] <Rencx> freazer: to install new Human_O2 i must remove prieviou
[18:09] <fiftyone> strange how such little things can make a person crazy lol
[18:10] <_niko> Hey there! can someone explain the usage or -R on ssh? I have tried but failed . I tring to have a connection to my external server so that i can access my home box wherever
[18:11] <Rencx> How i can remove installed icons? I install Human-O2 and now i want install again but it can't overwrite.
[18:11] <freazer> Pilot_51: I recommend http://www.imgburn.com/ for Windows ISO Burning, it's a nice simple OSS app that allows for bootable images. If that's also not working it might be Windows 7? That's easy enough to blame because it's beta
[18:11] <Pilot_51> Ok thanks, OSS FTW ;)
[18:11] <Kokloco> How can I add a text to a file name in the console? For example, I have a file called "file.txt" and I want to add to it "header_", so the final file will be : "header_file.txt"? thanks
[18:12] <{g}> how do i know my ubuntu version?
[18:12] <^hashbang^> _niko: what port on the external server are you tryin to access from home
[18:13] <freazer> _niko: What exactly are you trying to do? Connect to a remote server on a nonstandard port, or are you trying to do some sort of localside port forwarding?
[18:13] <fiftyone> i'm an idiot
[18:13] <fiftyone> :D
[18:13] <rocksolid> id 10-t
[18:13] <meshuggah> g : reboot, i think it write it when you enter your password
[18:14] <rocksolid> or type lsb_release -a
[18:15] <meshuggah> g : if you downloaded it, not long ago, it will be 8.10 intrepid ibex
[18:15] <meshuggah> g : probably...
[18:15] <freazer> Can anybody help me with LILO installation, or at the very least point me to some documentation? Google is failing me and I'm not finding anything in the Ubuntu documenation
[18:16] <ZeroA4> freazer, but ubuntu uses grub... not lilo
[18:16] <jussel> #rsbot
[18:16] <girao> hello anyone know the staff ubuntu ultimate?
[18:16] <meshuggah> freazer : http://www.control-escape.com/linux/lilo-cfg.html
[18:17] <jussel> Ehm people
[18:17] <freazer> ZeroA4: Ubuntu Alternate Install disc 8.04 uses LILO. What are you talking about?
[18:17] <jussel> could someone help me?
[18:17] <freazer> jussel: Just ask your question and we'll try.
[18:17] <^hashbang^> _niko: !ask | jussel
[18:17] <jussel> Im on my  Asus X53SG Laptop and don't  got sound
[18:17] <meshuggah> jussel  : the newbie that i am, will try to help
[18:17] <^hashbang^> _ !ask | jussel
[18:17] <slipst> Is there a way of "importing" text from a file and using that as filename for other files? For example I have 90-192.pdf and 90-192.meta (meta file contains the info like: "Title: DocumentTitle [new line] Summary: DocumentSummary [new line] Date: DocumentDate" I want to use Title and Date from the .meta file and put it in the filename of the .pdf (the documents I'm talking about are from https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4713076 )
[18:17] <^hashbang^> oh forget it
[18:17] <^hashbang^> lol
[18:17] <freazer> !ask | ^hashbang^
[18:18] <freazer> Yay I did it.
[18:18] <meshuggah> congratz
[18:18] <^hashbang^> lol good job, my fingers weren't working with me =)
[18:18] <ZeroA4> freazer, i have installed ubuntu from Alternate install (but not 8.04) and it uses grub by default... you changed the default with you alternate install ?
[18:18] <freazer> meshuggah: thank you very much that link looks great and I'll read up ^^ I hope that wasn't your first google hit, and if it was I need to learn the right search terms >.<
[18:19] <jussel> My Asus does have sound, and always worked on XP/Vista etc.  but now I recently installed Ubuntu, and it isn't working.
[18:19] <jussel> I've completely updated it.
[18:19] <Jimmy_> irc.quakenet.org #MMO-Champion
[18:19] <Jimmy_> oops sorry
[18:19] <meshuggah> freazer : first link i clicked, i searched for : "lilo howto" :)
[18:19] <ice_cream> o.O according to wikipedia, latest release of lilo was 722 days ago  (compared to grub -373 days)
[18:19] <freazer> meshuggah: embarassing ; ; better than everything I've found, thank you
[18:20] <girao> hello anyone know the staff ubuntu ultimate?
[18:20] <ice_cream> freazer, search terms are   lilo boot loader
[18:20] <templaedhel> does dual booting void warentee?
[18:20] <meshuggah> freazer : dont be embarassed, np, i got a lot of help here, so it is normal that i AT LEAST try to help others
[18:21] <jussel> anyone who could help me? ^^
[18:21] <meshuggah> !ask jussel
[18:21] <meshuggah> lol
[18:21] <freazer> ZeroA4: I installed my system with the intent of using MDADM software raid container, which held an LVM container, which held several partitions beyond the capacity of a normal drive. The Alternate install disc said I needed to use LILO and selected it for me. It worked great, first detecting and mounting the raid, then the LVM. It was only when an unrelated kernel update broke initramfs and somebody "helped me" by telling me to d
[18:21] <Rioting_pacifist> erm is teh scipy package broken for anybody else?
[18:22] <^hashbang^> !ask | jussel
[18:22] <meshuggah> freazer : uh.....mhmm...no i cant...
[18:23] <freazer> ZeroA4, ice_cream: It's exactly your attitude that broke my otherwise great system in the first place. If you can advise me on how to install grub2 to mount my LVM/mdadm container I will gladly
[18:23] <ice_cream> i have a bad attitude...?
[18:23] <ZeroA4> freazer, humm. it must have said you need lilo cos of your LVM setup... grub needs an /boot partition out of lvm stuff...
[18:24] <^hashbang^> !polite
[18:24] <Eber> guys... if I have too machines in a network... one is windows and the other linux, and I want to access my windows mysql thought an application on linux... how can I do that? i'm working with PHP, so should I just point it to the network IP address?!?
[18:24] <ZeroA4> freazer, you could have told us the wholy story... cos it changed the defaults
[18:25] <freazer> ZeroA4: Well don't tell me that it simply doesn't and that I'm a liar, if it did, and it does.
[18:25] <ZeroA4> freazer, here did i told you here a liar???
[18:25] <^hashbang^> Eber: try this http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread50606.html
[18:25] <_niko> sorry i was AFK , I would like to make a tunnel/connection (not sure of the right terminology) from my home computer to my external server that allows me to connect back through it to connect to the same computer from the external server. The reason im doing this is because i cant connect to my ssh server on my home computer as my uni does something
[18:26] <freazer> ZeroA4: So, I learn things. Now I have a choice to wait for and resize an 640 GB MD container to make room for a /boot partition (unless it doesn't need to be at the front of the drive? Any advice on how large it should be? Frankly that sounds easier than wrestling with LILO since nobody seems to want to.
[18:26] <Eber> ^hashbang^: i'll take look! tks :)
[18:26] <meshuggah> somebody knows how to boot in console with 8.10? i want to see the lines of text, and the wonderfull login/password on black screen
[18:26] <Rencx> How i can remove installed icons? I install Human-O2 and now i want install again but it can't overwrite.
[18:26] <^hashbang^> _niko: what app or port are you trying to forward back to your home?
[18:26] <freazer> ^hashbang^: Was that !polite directed at me? I'm simply asking for help, I think you're inferring a harsh inflection where there is none.
[18:26] <fluitfries> i broke Xubuntu trying to install Compiz`.  now my xfwm4 never loads so i have no window manager.  how can i fix?  i'm looking for suggestions to try when i get a chance later today.  thanks!
[18:26] <jussel> How do I install my sound-card?
[18:27] <meshuggah> fluitfries : did you tried compiz fusion icon?
[18:27] <fluitfries> meshuggah: i am not at the computer, taking notes on what to try when i get home to my Xubuntu.  :)
[18:27] <_niko> hashbang: I dont quite understand what your asking, im quite clueless with this atm
[18:27] <freazer> jussel: Do you have any information you can tell us about the name, producer, and type of sound card?
[18:27] <fluitfries> meshuggah: i have your suggestion noted, thanks.
[18:28] <meshuggah> fluitfries : ha ok:) sorry :)
[18:28] <jussel> Freazer:  It's the soundcard from a Asus X53SG Laptop, I'll check the type
[18:28] <^hashbang^> _niko: you want to setup a way to access your external server from home right?
[18:28] <ZeroA4> freazer, i think (not sure) that id does not need to be in the front... but i am afraid some bios has an clinider limit for bootable partiotion... meaning that boot partition have to start before that limit
[18:29] <CarlFK> sound is tweaked - worked a few days ago, now I hear faint static.  booted an 8.04.1 cd - where is something that will make noise?
[18:29] <_niko> hashbang: the opposite, i want to be able to access my home computer from my external server
[18:29] <freazer> ZeroA4: Any recommendation on the size of the /boot partition? ext2?
[18:29] <^hashbang^> _niko: ah ok, what would you like to access? Windows on your home desktop? or linux?
[18:29] <theneb> hah, hey _niko
[18:30] <_niko> hashbang:its a linux box so is the serber
[18:30] <_niko> lol hey neb
[18:30] <ZeroA4> freazer, and 100mb or 200mb will do if you delete old kernels after avery kernel update... can be any fs you like... i use ext3
[18:30] <jussel> @Freazer -  Realtek HD Audio output   , is that possible?
[18:30] <meshuggah> fluitfries : do that in terminal : killall compiz.real && xfwm4 –replace        it will restart x
[18:30] <freazer> jussel: Alright, looking into it
[18:30] <jussel> thanks
[18:30] <mithraic> Here's a Gnome question: Is it possible to have a Gnome panel window list that just shows the windows on the current monitor?
[18:30] <meshuggah> fluitfries : killall xfwm4 && compiz –replace        to start compiz
[18:31] <Rencx> How i can remove installed icons? I install Human-O2 and now i want install again but it can't overwrite.
[18:31] <mithraic> Along the lines of what Ultramon does for Windows?
[18:31] <ZeroA4> freazer, "can be any fs you like " err you initrd or kernel has to have the fs driver... better stay with ext2 or ext3
[18:31] <fluitfries> meshuggah: will it make xfwm4 auto-start again?  xfwm4 doesn't auto-start at all.
[18:31] <^hashbang^> _niko: ok how about just using ssh on your home box. install an ssh server on it and your good to go? if you have a home firewall you will need to open up a port on it to allow the default port of 22 to come into your home linux system
[18:31] <meshuggah> fluitfries : no
[18:31] <mithraic> I'm grateful for the "windows from current workspace" option, but partitioning by monitor would be even nicer.
[18:32] <fluitfries> meshuggah: ok, i have noted those commands.  thanks again.  :)
[18:32] <ice_cream> freazer, usually ext2.  i'd recommend at least 200mb, as 100mb may not be enough for ubuntu --> sometimes to upgrade to a newer version, the installer wants 75mb free space (i learned the hard way 8.04-8.10)
[18:32] <freazer> jussel: Last question, sort of the most important ^^ what version of Ubuntu are you using? I'm hearing a lot of Realtek complaints from 7.04 users
[18:33] <^hashbang^> freazer: if your not hurting for HD space... 1G isn't to much to ask for /boot and I would use ext3
[18:33] <mithraic> Answering my own question: Just adding a new panel and window list on the other monitor does the trick! That's fantastic!
[18:33] <mercutio22> I'd like to boost my microphone recording level but its already at maximum, is there a way?
[18:33] <jussel> 8.04 desktop edition  (i386)
[18:34] <_niko> hashbang: I have the ssh server set up, but connecting is straighforwads as my uni is doing something that is blocking my connection to it. I using ssh now connected to my external server, thats how im even on irc. i just need to know if i can tunnel back through this connection[3~[3~[1~
[18:34] <freazer> ice_cream, ^hashbang^: thanks both for suggestions, I'll definately take your advice and be more on the "more" than the "less" and I'll do a little more research into my needs so I understand what's involved more. Thanks for giving me ballparks, estimates are useful.
[18:34] <_niko> errr brb having problems
[18:35] <Rioting_pacifist> erm is the scipy package broken for anybody else?
[18:35] <meshuggah> fluitfries : check this page, maybe : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=849091&highlight=compiz
[18:35] <^hashbang^> _niko: tunnel back from your current connection (being from your ssh session from home to your server), and you want to go back to your home computer through that same session?
[18:35] <meshuggah> fluitfries : just try to replace the compiz by xfwm4 or something :)
[18:36] <cphillips> did compiz get rid of the "background images" option for the desktop cube?
[18:36] <fluitfries> meshuggah: got it.  ty.  :)
[18:36] <Niko_> back. did that you get that last msg?
[18:37] <^hashbang^> _niko: what do you want to do through that same tunnel? file transfers? you might want to do something like ssh -L 3333:your.home.ip.address:4444 external.host.com
[18:38] <Rencx> How i can remove installed icons? I install Human-O2 and now i want install again but it can't overwrite.
[18:38] <^hashbang^> _niko: that will tunnel you in and give you a promopt on the external server, and it will also open up a new tunnel with port 3333 for localhost and 4444 for remote..
[18:39] <bdubnc> Question, is there a way to call a custom file from /etc/network/interfaces.  I need to be able to share the configuration of my virtual hosts with another server for load balancing and it would make it easier if I could just sync 1 file instead of manually editing the interfaces file.  Thanks!
[18:39] <Niko_> hashbang: ok i will try it, and let you know how it goes
[18:39] <kohlmannj> someone willing to help me compile an individual kernel module from source? I'd appreciate it.
[18:39] <^hashbang^> _niko: also check out this link. http://www.walkernews.net/2007/07/21/how-to-setup-ssh-port-forwarding-in-3-minutes/
[18:40] <Niko_> hashbang: thanks!!
[18:40] <^hashbang^> _Niko: np
[18:40] <freazer> jussel: I recommend following some of the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto about half way down they demonstrate how to exactly identify the version of the sound card. Lastly I would run through this checklist if you haven't already https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting?action=show&redirect=DebuggingSoundProblems - ignore that first paragraph, the rest is very detailed
[18:40] <freazer> Good luck!
[18:40] <hwilde> anybody have a good tool to view cpu load per thread for multithreaded apps ?
[18:41] <jussel> Thanks, I will try it.
[18:41] <Rencx> can soone help me with icons?
[18:42] <sin> Does anyone here know how can I use my bluetooth headset with other applications other than skype? It doesn't appear in my mixer and I'm using blueman and as my manager
[18:43] <sin> I would like to use my headset with twinkle
[18:43] <^hashbang^> Rencx: I'm a commandline kinda guy, so if I was going to remove something I would go into /usr/share/icons and remove the set I didn't want.
[18:44] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: but the problem is that i cant see there human-O2 but i see them in customize theme menu
[18:44] <RdeWilde> Q: How can I fix the error "Cound not execute  /init .... "  on boot?
[18:45] <^hashbang^> Remcx: see if you find them in ~/.themes
[18:45] <^hashbang^> Remcx: or in /usr/share/themes
[18:46] <MoonlitFate> Can someone help with a problem I'm having with trying to install rhythmbox?  [Is new to Ubuntu.]
[18:46] <Scunizi> MoonlitFate: rhythbox is already installed.. what are you trying to do?
[18:47] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: cant see there also
[18:47] <^hashbang^> Remcx: hmm
[18:47] <MoonlitFate> I'm trying to upgrade it to the newest version, in hopes that it'll fix another problem that I'm having with it.
[18:47] <^hashbang^> Remcx: ok I'm not sure then...
[18:47] <Scunizi> MoonlitFate: what is that other problem?
[18:47] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: ok ty i find it ~/.icons/
[18:48] <^hashbang^> Remcx: doh! cool, forgot that one =)
[18:48] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: you give me advice with themes :)
[18:48] <^hashbang^> Remcx: ty
[18:49] <kohlmannj> does anyone have experience compiling an individual kernel module?
[18:49] <MoonlitFate> I'm basically trying to run the last.fm plug-in, and when I go to start a radio station I'll get errors saying that it can't start playback because it's a bug in either Gstreamer, or rhthmbox itself.
[18:49] <darthanubis> are the repos dead atm?
[18:49] <hwilde> anybody have a good tool to view cpu load per thread for multithreaded apps ?
[18:50] <meshuggah> any program like : cpu-z     on ubuntu 8.10?
[18:51] <jussel> It didn't work, I installed the driver, and re-booted my laptop, but still no sound.
[18:51] <willwh> Hi guys, anyone have any tips for installing ubuntu for use with a hardware raid controller?
[18:51] <willwh> I've been doing some reading, and a bit stuck as to where to start
[18:51] <meshuggah> jussel : probably your computer is trying to use the integrated one....like mine did
[18:51] <jussel> any way to put that off?
[18:51] <jussel> I can't live without sound :D
[18:52] <willwh> you can disable onboard sound in your BIOS
[18:52] <meshuggah> jussel : i dont really remember how....wait a minute
[18:52] <willwh> or should be able to :)
[18:52] <jussel> k thanks
[18:52] <darthanubis> can anyone reach the repos?
[18:52] <willwh> CA archive is fine here.
[18:53] <meshuggah> jussel : it is how i did : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-do-you-change-the-default-sound-card-in-kubuntu-499520/
[18:53] <meshuggah> and i dont have kubuntu, but xubuntu and it worked
[18:54] <jussel> Thanks, I will try it =)
[18:54] <Niko_> hashbang: I have tried it but it times out. the details are correct mind,
[18:55] <Niko_> hashbang: in fact every time i try to connect to my pc it ends like that.
[18:55] <meshuggah> jussel : do in terminal : sudo asoundconf list
[18:56] <meshuggah> jussel : it will list your different sound card
[18:56] <jussel> ok
[18:56] <jussel> do I need to note anything here?
[18:56] <meshuggah> jussel : in terminal again : sudo asoundconf set-default-card TheNameOfTheSoundcard....and reboot
[18:56] <meshuggah> jussel : note the name of you oundcard u want
[18:57] <jussel> ok sec.
[18:57] <meshuggah> and write it on the second command i said
[18:57] <meshuggah> it worked for me with xubuntu 8.10
[18:57] <jussel> Names of available sound cards:
[18:57] <jussel> Intel
[18:57] <jussel> possible?
[18:57] <meshuggah> intel is integrated
[18:57] <^hashbang^> Niko: paste.ubuntu.com the output from your connection attempts please.
[18:57] <jussel> thatś all
[18:58] <meshuggah> jussel : doi u have 1 or 2 soundcards
[18:58] <jussel> 1,  I guess.
[18:58] <jussel> It's  a laptop ;)
[18:58] <meshuggah> jussel : ok so try : sudo asoundconf set-default-card Intel
[18:58] <meshuggah> and reboot
[18:58] <jussel> ok, be right back :)
[18:58] <Baatti> Greetings, my wireless stopped working after I tried to get my 3D driver reconfigured. Could I please get some assistance?
[18:59] <meshuggah> yeah, i think you dont need to write sudo first...
[18:59] <Niko_> hashbang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116545/
[18:59] <prem> Hi All,
[18:59] <fiftyone> anyone know what that little system monitor, the one that imbeds itself into your desktop is called>?
[18:59] <prem> I have a program that tries to open /dev/tap0 on FreeBSD, I can just compile the program fine in Linux, but it fails to open /dev/tap0 (as I think the network drivers are identified by just name, and not /dev/* name)
[18:59] <meshuggah> hi pres
[19:00] <zimbres> How can I convert a static library into a shared library, i mean libany.a to libany.so?
[19:01] <DPic> I have a webcam with a built in microphone, as well as a separate one. If i look up their device names in Device Manager, i can manually input them into VLC's open capture device and they'll work. BUT They do not show up for any applications like Empathy for voice and video chat. I can record a video in Cheese Webcam Booth, but it has no sound. Sound recorder doesn't detect them either. So how do i configure my mic to work in
[19:01] <scampbell> Is there any information on the nvidia package for the latest kernel (2.6.24-23).   It doesn't usually take this long for that to show up.
[19:01] <^hashbang^> Niko: ok hmm... strange! I use that same command to use irssi to chat with you =)
[19:01] <DPic> I already hit up the forums but got nothing =[ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1065570
[19:01] <^hashbang^> Niko: here is what mine looks like. ssh -L 6667:irc.freenode.net:6667 ps1
[19:01] <darthanubis> can anyone reach the repos?
[19:02] <scampbell> darthanubis: I just did a apt-get update successfully.
[19:02] <porter1> darthanubis try a different mirror
[19:02] <Baatti> DPic, did you check your volume control to make sure input volume is turned up?
[19:02] <Niko_> hashbang: I just think its my uni - they block so much that i had to buy a VPS just to use irc
[19:02] <DPic> Baatti: yes
[19:03] <^hashbang^> Niko: ok but the portwarding shouldn't not work... I would think
[19:03] <Baatti> DPic, sorry, I'm a gnewb, so that's all the advice I can give
[19:03] <^hashbang^> Niko: ok but the portwarding "portforwarding"
[19:03] <DPic> Baatti: S'ok, thanks
[19:03] <dupondje> I'm playing a dvd on my Ubuntu (with VLC) and its extremely silent (on my tv) any id what could be the cause ?
[19:03] <DPic> Can anyone else help me with my mic problems?
[19:03] <dupondje> the booting up sound is loud ...
[19:04] <^hashbang^> Niko: so when you ssh to your external host you are using port 22 as the default and that works fine?
[19:04] <P3X-018> Why can firefox not open more than 1 pdf file in ubuntu?
[19:04] <Niko_> hashbang: yeah
[19:04] <^hashbang^> Niko: hmmm
[19:04] <^hashbang^> Niko: got it
[19:05] <^hashbang^> Niko: all ports under 1024 are called Privileged ports and can only be forwarded by root
[19:05] <zimbres> Is there any easy way to convert a static to a shared library?
[19:05] <Niko_> hashbang: ok that explains the message
[19:05] <^hashbang^> Niko: so change your port of 747 to 7004 or something
[19:06] <ice_cream> would ubuntu still be functional if i compiled a custom kernel >2.6.28 and mounted ext3 as ext4?
[19:06] <^hashbang^> ice_cream: why not?
[19:06] <Baatti> My wireless stopped working about an hour ago, after trying to reconfigure my 3D driver (following these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html ). I've tried to follow the steps I originally made to fix my wireless using ath5k and blacklisting ath_hal and ath_pci. That worked before and got my wireless working, but now it won't do the trick. Any ideas?
[19:06] <^hashbang^> ice_cream: =)
[19:06] <ice_cream> idk, just from my reading it all seemed theoretical, not much in practice
[19:06] <^hashbang^> ice_cream: i've never built a custom kernel on ubuntu but on redhat and slackware no problems at all
[19:07] <DPic> anyone think they can figure out my microphone issues?
[19:07] <DPic> i feel like there must be some simple fix
[19:07] <^hashbang^> ice_cream: have you built a kernel before?
[19:07] <ice_cream> yes
[19:08] <^hashbang^> ice_cream: ok, then you should be in good shape... just making sure to get all your drivers included =)
[19:08] <darthanubis> can't resolve archives.ubuntu.com
[19:08] <jussel> Hmm, it isn't  working.
[19:09] <meshuggah> jussel : did u checked your volume in ubuntu
[19:09] <meshuggah> jussel : mine was at 0
[19:10] <meshuggah> jussel : i am sorry, now i need to go working...:)
[19:10] <johannix> i'm trying to configure emacs in ubuntu, anyone know where i put the el files?
[19:10] <Niko_> hashbang: the same thing is happening. have tried changing the listen port on my pc but to no avail
[19:10] <meshuggah> bye all
[19:10] <jussel> ok thanks
[19:10] <jussel> I  checked the volume, settings, etc.
[19:10] <shally87> hi.
[19:11] <jussel> hi
[19:11] <shally87> want to ask..hat is the text editor in terminal?
[19:11] <shally87> what*
[19:11] <darthanubis> great no dns resolution at all!
[19:11] <shally87> OTHER THAN VI
[19:11] <darthanubis> avoid dd-wrt
[19:11] <porter1> shally, try nano!
[19:11] <shally87> sorry caps on
[19:11] <shally87> ok
[19:11] <shally87> thanks
[19:11] <porter1> It's easier to use
[19:12] <^hashbang^> darthanubis: hmm, how'd you connect to freenode?
[19:12] <jussel> Someone else know how to fix my soundcard? It isn't working at all.
[19:13] <darthanubis> ^hashbang^, I can't connect to freenode and I', downloading a torrent, my IMs are still connected, but no web browsing
[19:13] <Balgan> darthanubis whats wrong with dd-wrt
[19:13] <mossmon>  i have broblems with my 3d drivers. I tried install that NVIDIA driver but when it is in use my resiolurion is terrible. Some help?
[19:14] <QPid> Hi guys
[19:14] <darthanubis> Balgan, it seems very unreliable. I can't surf, now, but everyting else works
[19:14] <darthanubis> I can't even get a status page
[19:14] <^hashbang^> darthanubis: oh ok on your other computer? ... what does /etc/resolv.conf have in it?
[19:14] <darthanubis> ^hashbang^, no this machine
[19:15] <darthanubis> ^hashbang^, nameserver 192.168.1.1
[19:15] <QPid> I've downloaded a multi-part rar file but file-roller is asking for a password when none exists, when I open the file in Windows using WinRAR it opens just fine. Anyone know of any alternate file archiving programs please?
[19:15] <^hashbang^> darthanubis: ah your home router
[19:15] <mossmon> i have problem with my NVIDIA 3d drivers. I installed them but i cant have more resolution than 640x460 it is terrible, some help?
[19:15] <DPic> i need help getting applications (like Empathy, Cheese, and Sound Recorder) to detect my microphone please
[19:16] <QPid> (Preferably ones that can handle split archiveS)
[19:16] <^hashbang^> darthanubis: from your home router's management webpage, you should be able to ping or test network connectivity.. I'd try that
[19:16] <danbhfive> DPic: try gstreamer-properties
[19:16] <darthanubis> DPic, unmoute your capture devices
 ^hashbang^, nameserver 192.168.1.1
[19:16] <mossmon> --> KoFish (n=KoFish@cm-84.215.191.6.getinternet.no) liittyi kanavalle #ubuntu
 I've downloaded a multi-part rar file but file-roller is asking for a password when none exists, when I open the file in Windows using WinRAR it opens just fine. Anyone know of any alternate file archiving programs please?
[19:16] <mossmon> --> BlackWolf90 (n=BlackWol@host81-158-17-41.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) liittyi kanavalle #ubuntu
[19:16] <FloodBot2> mossmon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 darthanubis: ah your home router
[19:16] <fiftyone> i got a silly question, anyone know how to change that little ubuntu symbol next to the applications menu?
[19:17] <Balgan> darthanubis which router u have, also ive been using dd-wrt for 2 years now
[19:17] <^hashbang^> fifyone: you can hand edit the theme
[19:17] <Balgan> no probs at all
[19:17] <mossmon> i have problem with my NVIDIA 3d drivers. I installed them but i cant have more resolution than 640x460 it is terrible, some help?
[19:17] <QPid> huh mossmon?
[19:17] <darthanubis> Balgan, wrt54g v8
[19:17] <^hashbang^> !nvidia | mossmon
[19:18] <jussel> Hashbang, can't you help me with the problem about my soundcard? :P
[19:18] <QPid> !rar | QPid
[19:18] <bradly> I just installed slapd but I don't think it created a default admin account. Is it suppose to?
[19:18] <fearful> Any one know if I can install the latest version which was made of gaim on ubuntu 8.10, I like it better then pidgin
[19:18] <^hashbang^> jussel: I wish I could... I'm not a sound kinda guy =(
[19:18] <jussel> ah k :)
[19:19] <dupondje> I'm playing a dvd on my Ubuntu (with VLC) and its extremely silent (on my tv) any id what could be the cause ? (Main & PCM volume is @ 100%)
[19:19] <jussel> also got a code to install java? >_>   I'm  pretty new to Ubuntu  lol
[19:19] <Guest79410> hello, i just installed 8.10 ubuntu as a new user coming from xp pro i have a 3200 amd and a 6800 gt nvidia card but everything is still running slow can anyone help me
[19:19] <^hashbang^> bradly: no, you have to setup your own configs for a default admin account
[19:20] <^hashbang^> bradly: try http://www.rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=10921
[19:20] <harlemdavvey> how can i convert my .flv videos in .mp3 files???
[19:20] <harlemdavvey> help me pleasE!!
[19:20] <harlemdavvey> ps. i convert everything with ffmpeg, so i need some command line instruction..
[19:20] <^hashbang^> harlemdavvey: mp3 is a music format. .flv is a video format... they are not compatiable
[19:20] <jussel> Hashbang:  Do you have a code to install java? =]
[19:20] <fearful> jussel: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin
[19:20] <belesprit> is there any reason i wouldn't be able to network linux and windows computers together?
[19:21] <bradly> ^hashbang^: thanks. I'll take a look at the link
[19:21] <Niko_> lol i was about to say to jussel xd
[19:21] <fearful> Can I install gaim 2.0 beta5 on ubuntu 8.10?
[19:21] <jussel> thanks
[19:21] <jussel> =D
[19:21] <Guest79410> can anyone help me?
[19:21] <^hashbang^> !java
[19:21] <^hashbang^> !ask | Guest79410
[19:21] <QPid> I've downloaded a multi-part rar file but file-roller is asking for a password when none exists, when I open the file in Windows using WinRAR it opens just fine. Anyone know of any alternate file archiving programs please?
[19:22] <Guest79410> okay
[19:22] <^hashbang^> QPid: 7zip?
[19:22] <blizzle> Qpid: Try unrar from the command line, perhaps.
[19:22] <Guest79410> i just installed 8.10 and everything is running real slow specs are 6800 nvidia and 3200 amd
[19:23] <blizzle> Guest79410, Got the restricted Nvidia driver loaded?
[19:23] <nickname_> install the graphics driver
[19:23] <Guest79410> yeah
[19:23] <Guest79410> the recommended one
[19:23] <^hashbang^> blizzle: lol I was going to ask the same thing =)
[19:23] <QPid> !nvidia | mossmon
[19:23] <Guest56007> hello
[19:23] <^hashbang^> Hi
[19:23] <fearful> I want to install gaim I like it better than pidgin, anyone know if I'm able to on 8.10?
[19:24] <mossmon> qpid i cheked it out aleready no use with resolution
[19:24] <MoonlitFate> Does anyone know what I can do to get last.fm radio stations playing in Rhythmbox?  I get getting playback errors.
[19:24] <^hashbang^> fearful: try sudo install gmaim
[19:24] <Guest79410> thanks i will check that article out
[19:24] <mercutio22> Is there anyone here who made a screencast before? gtk-record-my-desktop is tearing... is there a better tool to record compiz videos?
[19:24] <QPid> mossmon: do you have the restricted driver installed?
[19:24] <^hashbang^> fearful: oops... sudo apt-get install gaim
[19:24] <fearful> ^hashbang^: ...
[19:24] <QPid> Thanks blizzle, worked a charm
[19:24] <fearful> ^hashbang^: If that were able to I wouldn't be asking, gaim is a dead project
[19:24] <mossmon> Qpid i installed from desktop effects
[19:25] <fearful> ^hashbang^: Its now known as pidgin, but I would like gaim, I can't find any old repo for 8.10
[19:25] <^hashbang^> fearful: then you need to compile it from source...
[19:25] <fearful> ^hashban^: Exactly where can I get this source :p
[19:25] <^hashbang^> fearful: google
[19:25] <fearful> ...
[19:26] <fearful> ^hashbang^: The reason why I'm asking is because I have tried all these options already..
[19:27] <Balgan> darthanubis am on wrt54GL
[19:27] <schuurma> Hall all ...
[19:27] <jxander> how could i run a script after X starts,but before xfce4 starts? xrandr related.
[19:27] <^hashbang^> fearful: ok then I would guess that all source options are dead as well, and pidgin is your best bet for gaim. What is it about pidgin you don't like?
[19:27] <anilg> ﻿hi..  is there any apt repository providing KDE 4.2 packages for ubuntu 8.04 ?
[19:27] <idleone> fearful, I believe you can get a deb from packages.ubuntu.com look in the older repos and download it
[19:27] <anilg> ﻿ I'm not looking for something supported.. just somethign that works
[19:28] <fearful> idleone: Thank you
[19:28] <anilg> ﻿I'm surprized google didnt point me to any such repo.. (neon seems to be for 8.10)
[19:28] <^hashbang^> idleone: wouldn't you end up in dep's nightmare?
[19:28] <schuurma> Maybe someone can help me getting my ubuntu desktop back. I now have a desktop with nothing on it and i already tried removing the x-ubuntu, kubunt, ... desktop and installing ubuntu-desktop.
[19:29] <Pilot_51> Hmm, ImgBurn still ended up with errors on the disk
[19:29] <idleone> ^hashbang^, that was my next comment fearful problem with that is that it might not work and could break other packages try at your own risk
[19:29] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[19:29] <^hashbang^> idleone: =)
[19:29] <idleone> !netsplit
[19:29] <zleap> we thats 3 netsplits in a week
[19:29] <zleap> we thats 3 netsplits in a week
[19:29] <idleone> zleap, is that all
[19:30] <fearful> ^hashbang^: I like how gaim looked better :p
[19:30] <^hashbang^> zleap: more than 3 yesterday alone
[19:30] <zleap> well i have seen 3
[19:30] <darthanubis> anyone have audacity owrking with pulse?
[19:30] <fearful> No biggy to be honest
[19:30] <zleap> unless there  has been a lot more
[19:30] <^hashbang^> fearful: oh ok.. I can see that. cool
[19:30] <bradly> ^hashbang^: That slapd link assumes you have a cn=admin already. That's what I am missing I think
[19:30] <fearful> ^hashbang^ thanks tho to you too idleone
[19:31] <idleone> fearful, you are probably going to need to install older libs and dependencies which might put your system in a state of nervous shock. seriously it isnt a good idea but if you really want to then it's on you
[19:31] <mossmon> how to inceriase resolution
[19:31] <^hashbang^> fearful: anytime
[19:31] <fearful> idleone: Yea I was thinking over might leave exploits, I'll just pass thought there was an easier way
[19:31] <idleone> !fixres
[19:31] <zanberdo> where does one set battery thresholds (percentages, etc) for power management?
[19:32] <idleone> fearful, check gaim.com or something there must be an archive of old gaim sources out there
[19:32] <fearful> zanberdo: Right click the power icon and hit preferences
 i have problem with my NVIDIA 3d drivers. I installed them but i cant have more resolution than 640x460 it is terrible, some help?
[19:32] <schuurma> ? no one
[19:32] <mossmon>  i have problem with my NVIDIA 3d drivers. I installed them but i cant have more resolution than 640x460 it is terrible, some help?
[19:32] <^hashbang^> bradly: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[19:32] <idleone> !patience > mossmon
[19:33] <idleone> !fixres > mossmon
[19:33] <bradly> ^hashbang^: no, but thanks. I will read through
[19:33] <^hashbang^> idleone: nice didn't know that one was there =)
[19:33] <^hashbang^> bradly: ok good luck
[19:33] <idleone> ^hashbang^, the patience or fixres?
[19:33] <^hashbang^> !fixres > ^hashbang^
[19:33] <zanberdo> fearful, sadly that is not a complete interface.  That is, though there is a setting "When battery power is critically low" do x, but what I need to set is the definition of a low battery, critically low battery, etc.
[19:34] <^hashbang^> idleone: lol the fixres
[19:34] <idleone> ahh
[19:34] <Wizzup> Is there an easy way to downgrade from 9.04 to 8.10? I have been google'ing but I could not find anything serious
[19:34] <homerj14> my propietary driver is installed fine but my 8.10 is still running slow i have amd 3200 /nvidia 6800 gt
[19:34] <idleone> wizzer, backup and reinstall
[19:34] <fearful> zanberdo: Oh I see give me one second then
[19:34] <idleone> Wizzup, backup and reinstall
[19:34] <Wizzup> That wasn't what I was hoping for :<
[19:34] <^hashbang^> Wizzup: red or blue pill...
[19:35] <maki> hi
[19:35] <idleone> Wizzup, that is the easiest way and only right way. linux does not provide a roll back like windows thank god
[19:35] <Wizzup> lol.
[19:35] <Wizzup> Meh
[19:35] <^hashbang^> idleone: woot!
[19:35] <zanberdo> fearful, thank you.  NOTE: this has come up as I've order a new battery for this lappy and they recommend that I do not discharge below 20% while it's being conditioned (well, conditioned isn't the correct term as it's a Li-Ion battery, but that's the general thrust of it).
[19:35] <Wizzup> I understand, but 9.04 seems to have removed parts of my nvidia drivers. I'm having slight problems getting them back, plus my sound is no longer functional
[19:35] <benito> Sto cercando jester
[19:35] <Wizzup> only cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp generates sound
[19:36] <idleone> Wizzup, #ubuntu+1 might be able to help you with that
[19:36] <^hashbang^> Wizzup: the folks in #ubuntu+1 helped me with my nvidia driver issues and 9.04 amd64
[19:36] <wikkedfin> how is ubuntu 9.04?
[19:36] <idleone> !it > benito
[19:36] <Wizzup> Thank you idleone and ^hashbang^
[19:36] <^hashbang^> Wizzup: I added export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 to ~/.gnomerc and bam everything started working =)
[19:37] <Pilot_51> Is there a net install iso of ubuntu 8.10 available anywhere?
[19:37] <idleone> Wizzup, no problem. will take some time but it is worth the effort. try fixing the issue before re-installing
[19:37] <schuurma> ok, running gnome-panel gives me the juice... but howto store this for the next session ?
[19:37] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: it's nice.. I like ext4
[19:37] <wikkedfin> does it boot any faster?
[19:37] <Wizzup> idleone: I will
[19:37] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: yea
[19:38] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: ubuntu 8.10 still out performs XP/Vista/ and Windows 7 =) woot!
[19:38] <|ntegra|> !wifi
[19:38] <homerj14> my propietary driver is installed fine but my 8.10 is still running slow i have amd 3200 /nvidia 6800 gt
[19:38] <wikkedfin> ^hashbang^, i have been in that convo alot and windows* ppl always tell me im stupid but i say linux is faster than windows*
[19:38] <wikkedfin> haha
[19:38] <^hashbang^> http://www.tuxradar.com/node/33 -  ubuntu unoffical benchmarks
[19:39] <chnuebi> is ext4 much better than xfs?
[19:39] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: dude, linux is sooo much faster than M$ it's not even funny
[19:39] <shally87> hi..
[19:39] <shally87> anyone know how to set different ip for different machine in virtual box?
[19:40] <blizzle> shally87, Check VB's network adapter configs.
[19:40] <idleone> mossmon, ask question in here to the channel I dont know how to fix your issue but other people probably do. explain what is going on and what you have tried keep it all in one post and be patient :)
[19:40] <shally87> I have this 3 vmachine which is DNS server, LAMP server and mail server how to configure it?
[19:40] <wikkedfin> ^hashbang^, i had vista on this laptop then i got a ms update and windows started erroring out real bad so im like ima try ubuntu, i found out you caninstall via USB flash drive so i did that an man it installed about 7 min or so
[19:40] <chnuebi> shally87: in /etc/networking/interfaces is the configfile for such things...
[19:41] <shally87> how?
[19:41] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: cool. ubuntu/linux is a learning curve.. but one well worth taking
[19:41] <fearful> zanberdo: Ok type sudo gedit /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[19:41] <mossmon> My system does not allow to make more resolution than 640x460, with 3d drivers on. How can i inceriase it?
[19:42] <zanberdo> fearful, thank you, I will check that out.  I've also found some information regarding tp_smapi...
[19:42] <chnuebi> shally87: sudo vim /etc/networking/interfaces
[19:42] <NemsSs> hi everybody
[19:42] <wikkedfin> ^hashbang^, whats your system specs?
[19:42] <fearful> zanberdo: Should say MINIMUM_BATTERY_CHARGE_PERCENTAGE
[19:42] <fearful> zanberdo: Ah ok, well in that conf file there are many options with percentages you can change
[19:42] <Firio> Hi all. I got some questions..
[19:42] <Firio> How big is the size for the installation for ubuntu? And how do I enter the username and password for Ubuntu and where do I find the password and username for the ubuntu?
[19:42] <wikkedfin> Man i installed Ubuntu 8.04 and my Atheros wifi worked out of the box
[19:42] <wikkedfin> everything worked
[19:43] <^hashbang^> mossmon: have you installed the nvidia-settings? that will allow you to change the resolution.
[19:43] <wikkedfin> i was happy.
[19:43] <shally87> chnuebi:  nothing was written there..
[19:43] <whatev> if i ssh to an outside network can i telnet myself from it as if i were outside the network?
[19:43] <mossmon> ^hashbang^ how can i install it?
[19:43] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: HP xw4400 workstation: 2.4Ghz core 2, 2G ram...
[19:43] <wikkedfin> to tell you the truth i first installed Ultimate Edition it has so many errors etc... and i found out it wasnt supported so i said im installing ubuntu
[19:43] <wikkedfin> sweet
[19:44] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: x2 24in LCD 1080P monitors =)
[19:44] <wikkedfin> ^hashbang^, i bet it runs nice on that machine
[19:44] <Firio> I need answer on these questions,cuz it is my first time using ubuntu
[19:44] <dethstar> I'm having troubles with sound on my dell studio 540 slim desktop.. I've tried the solution from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=969611 with no luck.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[19:44] <bdubnc> Question, is there a way to call a custom file from /etc/network/interfaces.  I need to be able to share the configuration of my virtual hosts with another server for load balancing and it would make it easier if I could just sync 1 file instead of manually editing the interfaces file.  Thanks!
[19:44] <wikkedfin> why you need them kinda screens for lol
[19:44] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: yea and looks great too =)
[19:44] <fearful> Firio: Shoot
[19:44] <lcraft> man  - 8.10 installed beautifully on this 5 year old Dell Inspiron laptop..   I at least expected to need to haggle with it to get the wifi driver running or sound..
[19:44] <Firio> How big is the size for the installation for ubuntu? And how do I enter the username and password for Ubuntu and where do I find the password and username for the ubuntu?
[19:44] <wikkedfin> you should send me a pic of your setup
[19:44] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: work
[19:44] <wikkedfin> your at work?!
[19:44] <^hashbang^> mossmon: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[19:45] <wikkedfin> man thats sweet
[19:45] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: yea
[19:45] <wikkedfin> what kinda job lets you IRC haha
[19:45] <fearful> Firio: You have not installed it yet?
[19:45] <shally87> Anyone know how to set the virtual Ip for each vbox?
[19:45] <Firio> I have
[19:45] <shally87> i mean make the ip different
[19:45] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: a cool job =)
[19:45] <Firio> But I don't know how big the file iz for the installation
[19:46] <hareldvd> Any idea which package I need to play .wma files using mplayer?
[19:46] <chnuebi> shally87: sudo vim /etc/networking/interfaces
[19:46] <fearful> Firio: Um.. I don't understand your question, if you already installed it it should not matter and the username and password is the one you entered on the installation screen
[19:46] <^hashbang^> Firio: the default install is about 2.4G (mine was anyway)
[19:46] <stefg> !codecs | hareldvd
[19:47] <Firio> fearful: Pm me and I try to xplain better there
[19:47] <nickrud_> bdubnc, there's a directory called /etc/network/if-up.d ; files in there are called when the interface comes up
[19:47]  * wikkedfin my friend has XP pro and he just peered out he says he had blue-screen-of-death. i said time for ubuntu eh?
[19:47] <^hashbang^> Firio: all user account infomation is in the /etc/password file or on the System->Administration->Users and Groups menu option
[19:47] <wikkedfin> i have been trying to get everyone to convert
[19:47] <wikkedfin> i just hate windows.
[19:47] <dupondje> I'm playing a dvd on my Ubuntu (with VLC) and its extremely silent (on my tv) any id what could be the cause ? (Main & PCM volume is @ 100%)
[19:47] <dupondje> plz :(
[19:47] <bdubnc> Ok, so I can put a custom entry for lo then?
[19:48] <JesperHansen> hmmm... I ran fsck on my 2½year old laptop and now /sbin/shutdown links to /sbin/mount.cifs
[19:48] <stefg> dupondje: check that your 'font' speakers are also turned up and thaz you chose the right audio channel in vlc
[19:48] <stefg> *front speakers
[19:48] <^hashbang^> JesperHansen: ouch man I'm sorry
[19:49] <chnuebi> shally87: you can set the ip also with sudo ifconfig eth0 <ip> but it doesnt save your settings
[19:49] <dupondje> stefg: front is @ 100%
[19:49] <dupondje> and there is only 1 audio channel on the DVD ...
[19:49] <wikkedfin> ^hashbang^, is it safe to upgrade to 9.04?
[19:50] <wikkedfin> ^hashbang^, im useing 8.04
[19:50] <nickrud_> bdubnc, yes; you can call that with the post-up command in the interfaces file; man interfaces explains more
[19:50] <Niko_> Hey there I'm stil battling with this ssh thing, found out that if i use the -R when connecting to my server it will forwards the given port backthough the connection, when i try to ssh back through this port its ask me for my password, which is great. problem is that none of my passwords are working. any ideas?
[19:50] <Titan8990> wikkedfin, short answer: no
[19:50] <Titan8990> !jaunty | wikkedfin
[19:50] <^hashbang^> wikkedfin: I'd wait until April when it's released...
[19:50] <bdubnc> Thanks!
[19:51] <Titan8990> wikkedfin, personally, id even wait a little longer than that
[19:51] <wikkedfin> Thx
[19:52] <wikkedfin> HMy bad im useing ubuntu 8.10
[19:52] <wikkedfin> is ubuntu 8.10 server worth useing cuz atm im useing 8.04.2 server
[19:53] <Unguided> Hello All. does anyone know if u can playback a dvd using the mythbuntu live dvd if u have two dvd drives in the computer?
[19:53] <kitche> Unguided: you should but you might have to install some things first
[19:53] <mossmon> ^hashbang^ it does not allow to change my resolution
[19:54] <nickrud_> wikkedfin, unless you absolutely need capabilities that aren't in 8.04.2, you should stick with it for long term stability
[19:54] <Assid> err.. for grep.. how do i use a pattern like a|b
[19:54] <Titan8990> Unguided, you will mosdt likey need restricted codecs
[19:54] <Titan8990> !codecs | Unguided
[19:54] <Assid> echo "blah" |grep "a|x"
[19:54] <stefg> wikkedfin: depends on your usage profile. if you use virtualization a lot it might be worth the upgrade, for boring things like file- or mail server or a lamp setup i'd stick with hardy
[19:54] <Assid> basically let it match for a or x
[19:55] <wikkedfin> ya i was gonna use LTS because of the LTS...
[19:55] <akorpija> Can anybody tell me how i can get rid of the need for my password every time i check for updates or install a new program such as a deb?
[19:55] <JesperHansen> my network manager is screwed as well
[19:55] <Unguided> ok thanks for the help
[19:55] <wikkedfin> i thought it would be more stable etc...
[19:55] <tonyyarusso> Assid: use the -G, -E, or -P switches.
[19:55] <blizzle> akorpija, You can't, and it's not even sensibe to try.
[19:55] <tonyyarusso> Assid: (basic regex, extended regex, perl regex)
[19:55] <kanniball> hi!
[19:55] <Assid> tonyyarusso: care to give me an example in that case?
[19:55] <Assid> matching a or x
[19:56] <Protocol9> Hi
[19:56] <kanniball> is it possible to remove a package by the package filename?
[19:56] <Protocol9> Doesn anyone know where XCHAT stores the chats?? I want to check something I said two das ago
[19:56] <Rencx> hi
[19:56] <blizzle> akorpija, Well, you could. You *could* login as root, if you enable the account. Not a good idea. So, really, my first answer stands.
[19:56] <nickrud_> kanniball, sure, sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[19:57] <Titan8990> Protocol9, when you enable logging you have to imput a path for it to save
[19:57] <nickrud_> kanniball, if you're thinking of <packagename>*.deb, not necessary
[19:57] <blizzle> Protocol9, My guess is ~/.xchat
[19:57] <Titan8990> Protocol9, sorry, was looking at it wrong
[19:57] <nickrud_> Protocol9, ~/xchat2/xchatlogs
[19:58] <Protocol9> thanks guys
[19:58] <Rencx> Does anyone now how to get icon bar like on mac desktop?
[19:58] <nickrud_> probot__, erm, .xchat2/xchatlogs
[19:58] <marcel__> please how can i change the adress from downloading sources ??
[19:58] <blizzle> Rencx, Try installing either wbar or cairo bar.
[19:58] <nickrud_> marcel__, system->admin->software sources, download from dropdown
[19:58] <tonyyarusso> Assid: grep -e "[ax]" filename
[19:58] <stefg> !gnome-dock
[19:58] <blizzle> Rencx, Or indeed gnome-do (0.8)
[19:58] <stefg> !dock
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> !find dock
[19:58] <nickrud_> !info cairo-dock
[19:58] <stefg> stupid bot
[19:59] <nickrud_> stefg, teach it a new trick ;)
[19:59] <kanniball> nickrud_: but i need the packagename..deb, because I want to remove all the packages from ppa, (all the ones with ppa in the filename)
[19:59] <Rencx> blizzle: i can find it in Snaptic or i need ceck out google?
[19:59] <nickrud_> kanniball, ah, from a particular repository you mean?
[20:00] <GreenBA> Anyone here have any experience with UCK?
[20:00] <kanniball> nickrud_: yes
[20:00] <blizzle> Rencx, You'll need to grab wbar from google code. If you try that, also make sure to grab wbarconf
[20:00] <nickrud_> kanniball, try looking in synaptic, and press the Origin button lower left. That will show packages installed by repo. I think that will give you what you're looking for
[20:01] <blizzle> Rencx, Cairdo dock is available in the repositories; gnome-do (0.8) you'll get from the ppa.
[20:01] <kanniball> nickrud_: i don't use synaptic, but I will installing it
[20:01] <Assid> tonyyarusso: is it possible to get grep to give me the name of the file it finds it in instead of the actual line?
[20:01] <Assid> i dont need the actual line match
[20:02] <^hashbang^> Assid: what was the command you ran? what are you tryin to do?
[20:02] <blizzle> Rencx, Of all the competing docks, wbar is the fastest, but only offers basic app launching. gnome-do is the most advanced, in my view.
[20:02] <tonyyarusso> Assid: -l
[20:02] <kanniball> nickrud_: thanks, it worked
[20:02] <Assid> err. nvm gotit -H
[20:02] <Assid> oh
[20:02] <Assid> hrmm
[20:02] <Protocol9> WOW; thanks god to PasteBin;.. I fucked up a typo3 web site because wrongly I changed the DS structure and no copy in my laptop. I remebered that I showed it to people using pastebin a week ago!!! but I didnt remeber the id...so cheking the CHAT logs of a week ago I founfef the ID and fortunatly in pastebin the record was still alive and I get the Ds strucure back!!!!!!
[20:03] <Assid> ^hashbang^: emails are lost.. i need to find the relevant fileswith for the email
[20:03] <Assid> and recover it
[20:03] <GreenBA> Protocol9: that's using your noodle
[20:03] <idleone> !ohmy | Protocol9
[20:03] <^hashbang^> Assid: ah yes... ok
[20:03] <nickrud_> Protocol9, glad you found it, but please watch the language ;)
[20:03] <UnknownFear> hey
[20:04] <Rencx> blizzle: i will try gonome-do ty for your help :)
[20:04] <stefg> Protocol9: real men don't do backups, they put their stuff on ftp and let the world mirrot it (Linus Torvalds) :-)
[20:04] <Protocol9> Sorry guys about the language, but I am really excited...5 minutes ago I just was with a web site not working and my company expecting me to do so , SOEEY
[20:04] <^hashbang^> stefg: nice 1
[20:05] <Protocol9> 5 minutes ago I was close to be fired up! XDDD looooooooooooooooooool
[20:05] <tapspat> stefg , Are you a girl ?
[20:05] <^hashbang^> tapspat: ???
[20:05] <stefg> tapspat: does that matter ?
[20:05] <blizzle> Rencx, You'll need to ensure you have a compositing engine swtiched on to use the new gnome-do dock.
[20:05] <rdw200169> stefg, real men use a version control system
[20:05] <idleone> stefg, knowing will help him decide if he wants to ask a/s/l or not lol
[20:06] <Rencx> blizzle: how can i do it?
[20:06] <tapspat> at least it'd be more interesting !
[20:06] <nickrud_> ot | tapspat
[20:06] <idleone> !
[20:06] <boshhead> apt-cache --names-only --installed search linux    <-- I'm using this command to try and show packages that have "linux" in their name and are installed, but it shows packages like "grub" (doesn't have linux in it's name :P) and packages that aren't installed. What am I doing wrong? :(
[20:06] <nickrud_> er, off topic is gender
[20:06] <blizzle> Rencx, You may already fine your environment has it enabled.
[20:06] <blizzle> s/fine/find
[20:07] <jimcooncat> boshhead: try apt-cache --names-only | grep linux
[20:07] <rdw200169> boshhead, you could try: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux
[20:07] <blizzle> Rencx, If your window manager's using opacity or shadows, you have a compositing engine enabled in all likelihood.
[20:07] <max__> ciao!!
[20:07] <max__> !list
[20:08] <Rencx> blizzle: how can i start it? just installed
[20:08] <blizzle> Rencx, Start it from the Accessories menu I think. Should be an icon somewhere.
[20:08] <boshhead> rdw200169: that seems to be a list of what i want, thanks.
[20:08] <Titan8990> Rencx, do:   which NAMEOFPROGRAM
[20:09] <Titan8990> Rencx, if it is your PATH it will return the programs absolute path
[20:09] <tapspat> How can I stream a song from my Kubuntu Desktop to my phone !?
[20:09] <Unguided> if i run mythbuntu in a virtual machine can a play a dvd. i want to test the media capabilities on my hardware before permanently installing
[20:09] <blizzle> tapspat, Possibly VLC.
[20:09] <jeff-1981-01> Bonjour,
[20:09] <SEVILLA> does any know how to establish a wireless conection through using the cli. ive used iwconfig and iwlist but i cant get online still
[20:09] <stefg> boshhead: how about 'apt-cache search linux'
[20:09] <rdw200169> tapspat, are you talking about a browser on your phone, like safari on the iphone?
[20:09] <blizzle> Unguided, If your DVD drive is mapped to the VM, then sure.
[20:09] <jeff-1981-01> Quelqu'un peut tester s'il voit mon site ? http://jfsimon1981.dyndns.org
[20:09] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, sudo iwconfig essid MYESSID
[20:10] <blizzle> Unguided, Running from a live disk is a better method to test out hardware.
[20:10] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, follwed buy:   sudo dhclient wlan0
[20:10] <tapspat> If Safari has that feature than yes
[20:10] <ChronosZA> hey all. should i be able to add the hoary repositories to my synaptic in intrepid and get files from it?
[20:10] <^hashbang^> !fr | jeff-1981-01
[20:10] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, sorry, this should have been: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID
[20:10] <blizzle> !fr | jeff-1981-01
[20:10] <rdw200169> tapspat, well, ampache and gnump3d are both web-based applications that serve music via streaming
[20:10] <jeff-1981-01> ! ok sry
[20:10] <Rencx> blizzle: but it dont stand on desktop i need to start it?
[20:10] <idleone> jeff-1981-01, oui
[20:10] <Unguided> blizzle: I know but i cant play back a dvd w/o installing codecs.
[20:10] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: k thanks i will try that
[20:11] <duncan-nz> how do i force samba to start on my remote machine?
[20:11] <jeff-1981-01> T.Y.
[20:11] <tapspat> So if I create a playlist on my desktop then I will be able to access them from Safari on mu iphone !
[20:11] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, if your ap is running on something other than channel 6, you will need to change the channel as well
[20:11] <blizzle> Rencx, Check the little cog square icon in your system tray.. should be there if you've launched gnome-do.. then you'll need to configure it with the theme that shows the dock.
[20:11] <stefg> duncan-nz: by ssh'ing into it and starting the daemon
[20:11] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID channel #
[20:11] <Waelwulf> I know this is a question for #ubuntustudio but no one's really there. Does anyone know why networkmanager isn't installed by default on both the 8.10 and 9.04 Alpha 4 versions? Is it because the alternate install CD doesn't detect network hardware and so skips its install?
[20:12] <blizzle> Unguided, You can install codecs etc from a livecd.
[20:12] <duncan-nz> Steff, what is the daemon, where do i find it, or what's it called? Is it under services?
[20:12] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: k thanks
[20:12] <orifice_work> I just imaged a partition (via partimage) onto a partition that was larger.  fdisk shows the full size of the partition, but df shows that the partition is only as large as the old one.  What gives ?
[20:12] <Titan8990> Waelwulf, all gnome varients of ubuntu should come with network-manager-gnome
[20:12] <duncan-nz> stefg, what is the daemon, where do i find it, or what's it called? Is it under services?
[20:12] <stefg> duncan-nz: sudo invoke-rc.d samba start
[20:12] <rdw200169> Waelwulf, you're gonna have better luck trying #ubuntu+1 for that
 wizzer, backup and reinstall
[20:12] <wizzer> what
[20:12] <Waelwulf> I will try, thank you.
[20:12] <Unguided> blizzle: I am a newb and am not sure how to do that.
[20:12] <blizzle> rdw200169, Last time I looked, there was only 1 person in #ubuntu+
[20:13] <duncan-nz> stefg, i'll just look...
[20:13] <tapspat> rdw200169 ??
[20:13] <jimcooncat> orifice_work: you made a bigger partition, but didn't enlarge the filesystem
[20:13] <idleone> wizzer, tab completition error sorry was not meant for you
[20:13] <blizzle> Unguided, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras is a good place to start.
[20:13] <wizzer> oh ok haha
[20:13] <pyroger101> hi guys. anyone know how to set the irda to a usb port?
[20:13] <blizzle> Unguided, You'd need to enable some repositories, though, probably.
[20:13] <pyroger101> if that makes sense...
[20:13] <rdw200169> blizzle, it's #ubuntu+1 not #ubuntu+
[20:13] <Rencx> bblizzle: yes it is a bit different.. i want one like this down here http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/19685/2005576298596207038_rs.jpg
[20:14] <rdw200169> tapspat, they
[20:14] <pyroger101> bought an mce remote and having trouble installing the irda device any ideas :D
[20:14] <pyroger101> ubuntu 8.04
[20:14] <orifice_work> jimcooncat: how do I do that ?
[20:14] <tapspat> Thanks rdw200169
[20:14] <rdw200169> tapspat, are like websites that link to a directory of music, and through the web interface, you pick a song and it plays streaming
[20:14] <Unguided> blizzle: ok i will try that thanks and sorry for the ignoarnce
[20:15] <jimcooncat> orifice_work: easy way is with gparted if you have gnome on it
[20:15] <blizzle> Unguided, We all start ignorant.. only by asking questions do we address our ignorance :)
[20:15] <pyroger101> any ideas for the irda?
[20:15] <Furtano> hi
[20:15] <orifice_work> Is there a cli method ?
[20:15] <jimcooncat> orifice_work: you could use a livecd to run gparted so the partition doesn't get mounted
[20:15] <blizzle> rdw200169, Ah, hmmkay. Will try. Thanks.
[20:15] <jimcooncat> orifice_work: yes, depends on the filesytem
[20:16] <Furtano> how can i printf("%???",my) a long integer(my)  ?
[20:16] <Furtano> in c
[20:16] <Pici> Furtano: ask in ##C , not #ubuntu
[20:16] <Guest16584> Are there some problems with Ubuntu 8.4 I don't know about?
[20:16] <Dreamglider> when ever i try to update i get > "Could not resolve 'ISASRV'" Isasrv is ther proxy i juse in school, i have selected no proxy since im not in school now but i keep getting Could not resolve 'ISASRV' i have 8.10
[20:16] <Furtano> but i compile it in ubuntu
[20:16] <Rencx> blizzle: yes it is a bit different.. i want one like this down here http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/19685/2005576298596207038_rs.jpg
[20:16] <stefg> Guest16584: opbviously ...
[20:16] <Pici> Furtano: Its still a programming question.
[20:16] <Furtano> ok
[20:16] <duncan-nz> stefg, thanks. any idea why the network drive is sometimes in 'Network' and sometimes in 'Network/Windows Network'?
[20:16] <Furtano> thxy
[20:16] <aec> hello?
[20:16] <orifice_work> I just need to modify the filesystem information.  The partition table is correct
[20:17] <duncan-nz> stefg, and how do I make samba start at startup?
[20:17] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: are you doing the update from the commandline?
[20:17] <jimcooncat> orifice_work: what kind of filesystem is it, ext3?
[20:17] <Guest16584> Is 8.10 decent?
[20:17] <orifice_work> fat32 .....
[20:17] <stefg> duncan-nz: the package should place an initscript by itself... how come it doesn't autostart ?
[20:18] <duncan-nz> Guest16584, it's fine. Some reviewers say it'
[20:18] <duncan-nz> s not any different from 8.04.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest16584: works ok here
[20:18] <nickrud_> Guest16584, all the releases after warty(?) were decent; they stopped using the early artwork
[20:18] <wikkedfin> Anyone in here do any coding for Ubuntu?
[20:18] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^: i tried from terminal and from the update manager same output
[20:18] <duncan-nz> stefg, that's what I'm wondering.
[20:18] <aec> Does anyone know if its possible to split a drive with windows vista in half and install ubuntu with encrypted lvm on there?
[20:18] <ChronosZA> should i be able to add the hoary repositories to my synaptic in intrepid and get files from it? or if not how else?
[20:18] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: k  im connected to my router but no ip address and my signal level is -30
[20:18] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: do an `env | grep http` from the command line
[20:18] <duncan-nz> aec, sure why not?
[20:19] <Rencx> blizzle: do you now where i can get one?
[20:19] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: do you see anything?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> nickrud_: i wouldnt judge the quality of an OS by the look of the gui
[20:19] <nickrud_> ChronosZA, that is not doable
[20:19] <lirxis> Hi, have upgraded my server from 7.10 to 8.10 now everything is broken, apache2 wont start correctly and no server program starts on boot... help please :)
[20:19] <squarebracket> my main software source is down, can someone give me the address for one, like the us one?
[20:19] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: k  im connected to my router but no ip address and my signal level is -30
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> lirxis: reinstall the app
[20:19] <ChronosZA> nickrud_ : awww man
[20:19] <stefg> duncan-nz: I'd try installing the package 'bum' and inspect if its disabled
[20:19] <lirxis> ActionParsnip: already done that... :/ no luck
[20:19] <stefg> !info bum | duncan-nz
[20:19] <aec> ok just asking... would you know of a guide to help me with it? its no biggy im good at winging things
[20:19] <squarebracket> wait im dumb
[20:19] <blizzle> Rencx, If you want something identical to the screenshot, you'll be installing OSX :)
[20:19] <duncan-nz> stefg, i'll look at that.
[20:20] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, I have never had to adjust my signal level
[20:20] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^: http_proxy=http://ISASRV:8080/
[20:20] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, may be a stupid question but I ran into this problem last week, is MAC filtering enabled on your ap?
[20:21] <dou213> hi guys, how can i set some files on the internet so that everybody on that site can download them? i'm using lamp-server
[20:21] <blizzle> Rencx, Try cairo dock, I guess, if gnome-do's dock isn't what you want.
[20:21] <lirxis> Please can anyone help me? having problem after a upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10 server
[20:21] <dou213> files like .exe programms
[20:21] <Titan8990> dou213, should look into webdav for hosting files over HTTP
[20:21] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: ok take a look at your ~/.bashrc the entry for that might be in there
[20:21] <Titan8990> !webdav | dou213
[20:21]  * stefg considers docks totally overrated anyway
[20:21] <dou213> Titan8990, no other possibility?
[20:22] <Titan8990> dou213, for hosting files over http?
[20:22] <dou213> Titan8990, y
[20:22] <carl0s-> Anybody know of an issue with the latest jaunty updates on X Intel video ? I'm getting a blank screen on bootup, I can here the gdm jingle sound but can't see anything. If I start in rescue mode, and then choose "resume startup" it seems to start up OK. Also, with Desktop Effects enabled, the window decorations/borders are all blank white, or mostly blank.. they're actually a gradient white.
[20:22] <Pici> carl0s-: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[20:22] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: not sure how do i check
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> dou213: exe files are still files so you can host them just like any other
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | carl0s-
[20:22] <Titan8990> dou213, don't know, i find webdav to be excellent and have never had a reason find an alternative
[20:22] <stefg> !jaunty | carl0s-
[20:22] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  where is this ~ ?
[20:22] <carl0s-> thanks
[20:22] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, you have to log into the router and check the security settings
[20:23] <ldlework> Hey how come firefox keeps reporting (at various sites) that Java is not enabled even though in the preferences it is indeed enabled?
[20:23] <stefg> !ping
[20:23] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: k
[20:23] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: ~ is a shortcut to your home directory. so /home/yourusername/.bashrc
[20:23] <Pici> stefg: look up. someone just did that command.
[20:23] <dou213> Titan8990, but what about oly with apache2?
[20:24] <dou213> like the 'index of/' thing
[20:24] <Titan8990> dou213, webdav.... only using apache2
[20:24] <Titan8990> dou213, enable the module and its ready to go
[20:24] <ldlework> :( anyone?
[20:24] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: hey i may have disabled wireless networking how do i check that
[20:24] <stefg> Pici: yup... actually the 'echho cancellation' is one of the nicer features of ubottu
[20:25] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, on the router? if you were able to find your router via iwlist then wireless is enabled on the router
[20:25] <jimcooncat> orifice_work: only thing I can find for cli is parted. Be careful!
[20:25] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^: no isasrv in .bashrc
[20:25] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: ok i was just cheking
[20:25] <duncan-nz> stefg, its set to start, so I'll keep an eye on this issue and come back if I keep getting problems. Thanks.
[20:26] <linuxnewbe> join struts
[20:26] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: hmm, how about in /etc/bash.bashrc? if not there try doing a `unset http_proxy`
[20:26] <wally> where does ubuntu store samba shares mounted through gui ~/?
[20:27] <Titan8990> wally, mind rephrasing that?
[20:27] <aliell> my system > admin > printing does not have a network printer, am i missing something?
[20:27] <duncan-nz> wally, I had to specify the directory druing setup.
[20:27] <wally> Titan8990: I mounted a samba share via Gnome on Ubuntu. I am trying to access this in a terminal.
[20:27] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  unser not know command
[20:27] <Titan8990> wally, ah, you use smbclient
[20:27] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  unset not know command
[20:28] <Titan8990> wally, not sure on the syntax, try smbclient --help
[20:28] <stefg> wally: look in ~/.gvfs
[20:28] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: what shell are you using?
[20:28] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: bash? tcsh?
[20:28] <wally> awesome stefg
[20:28] <Titan8990> wally, or mabye I am just completely confused based on stefg's statement
[20:28] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: I use bash and that command works fine for me.
[20:28] <wally> thanks, ~/.gvfs it is
[20:28] <Titan8990> wally, lol and I was
[20:29] <lirxis> Warning: found /etc/apparmor.d/force-complain/usr.sbin.mysqld, forcing complain mode anyone knows whats wrong?
[20:29] <wally> lol
[20:30] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  by bash you mean in therminal ?
[20:31] <aliell> i do not have a 'Network Printer' in my Printer configuration :/
[20:31] <orudie> i just installed munin server and munin node, not sure how to get it working
[20:31] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: yes, the bash shell. type that, then type unset http_proxy
[20:31] <dou213> Titan8990, i should have simply put the files i want to share in the public folder and delete the index.html
[20:31] <dou213> that's what i wanted :)
[20:32] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  i just have a terminal i dont know about bash n stuff
[20:32] <jimcooncat> Dreamglider: for most users, the terminal runs bash.
[20:33] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: in your terminal, type unset http_proxy
[20:33] <kattollikisd> how can I put the Compiz-fusion on my PC?
[20:33] <Titan8990> ccsm | kattollikisd
[20:33] <Titan8990> !ccsm | kattollikisd
[20:33] <s0101> Can  somebody help me to use wireshark?
[20:33] <Titan8990> s0101, what do you need help with?
[20:34] <s0101> I have a windows computer on  my router i would like to see but i only get  one line in the capture
[20:34] <reduz> pulseaudio keeps crashing, any hints?
[20:34] <|f|> dont use pulseaudio
[20:34] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^: done, i still get the "could not resolve "isasrv"
[20:34] <Titan8990> s0101, you have be a member of the wireshark group or run it as root (not recommended)
[20:35] <stefg> reduz: you're running jaunty... aren't you?
[20:35] <s0101> I am  on the root mate
[20:35] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: does env | grep http_proxy come back with anything
[20:35] <s0101> ;)
[20:35] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  No.
[20:35] <s0101> why is that bad?
[20:35] <reduz> stefg, no, ibex
[20:36] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: and sudo apt-get update is saying it cant' find the proxy server?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> s0101: why is what bad?
[20:36] <Titan8990> s0101, because wireshark contains millions of lines of code.... nothing like that should be ran as root
[20:37] <s0101> ok how  can i get member of a wireshark group?
[20:37] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^: update manager can not resolve isasrv
[20:37] <s0101> and if i do that can i see the other computer?
[20:37] <Titan8990> s0101, not sure of the exact name, try:   grep wireshark /etc/group
[20:37] <tiredbones> I'm using distro 8.04, gnome version. How do I get kdar install using synaptic?
[20:37] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^: apt-get update is working thanks
[20:37] <Titan8990> s0101, no, you can never see the other computer with wireshark, it is a packet analyzer, not a remote sniffer
[20:38] <Titan8990> s0101, unless that computer is sending you packets
[20:38] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: Doh! , ok close update manager, open of synaptic, go to settings, preferences, network and remove the proxy entry
[20:38] <Titan8990> s0101, and you can filter it with:   ip.addr==xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[20:38] <s0101> I would  of course be able to make it send to me if you tell me  how
[20:38] <dou213> Titan8990, do u have a good link to WebDAV?
[20:38] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: hey still nothing,  i dont know what went worng it was working fine until i removed the applet from the gui panel
[20:38] <dou213> on setting it up
[20:39] <s0101> this is ubuntu  8.10 and target comp is windows  vista
[20:39] <Rencx> Does anyone can help with cario-dock eror?
[20:39] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  it's set to Direce connection to the internet
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> s0101: sudo adduser $USER <whatever groupname you wanna be in>
[20:39] <s0101> you meen a separete account for wireshark?
[20:39] <Titan8990> dou213, yes, let me find the guide that I used
[20:39] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: ok how about your systemwide pref's? System->
[20:40] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: ok how about your systemwide pref's? System->Preference->Network Proxy
[20:40] <Titan8990> s0101, no, in debian the adduser command both creates a user and can add a user to a group
[20:40] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  set to direct connection
[20:40] <Titan8990> s0101, in some other distros adduser is just a symlink to useradd
[20:40] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: wow, ok then I have no clue
[20:40] <s0101> I have 8.10
[20:40] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: hey still nothing,  i dont know what went worng it was working fine until i removed the applet from the gui panel
[20:40] <^hashbang^> Dreamglider: those are all the places i've used to set and unset a proxy when I needed it
[20:41] <s0101> [sudo] password for s0101:
[20:41] <dou213> Titan8990, ok i'm waiting
[20:41] <s0101> adduser: The user `s0101' already exists.
[20:41] <s0101> s0101@admin:~$
[20:41] <s0101> thats what i  get
[20:41] <Titan8990> dou213, http://www.digital-arcanist.com/sanctum/article.php?story=20070427101250622
[20:41] <FloodBot1> s0101: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <s0101> sry
[20:41] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, and iwlist scanning does show your access point?
[20:41] <^hashbang^> Titan8990: dude, I have that same link up and was gettin ready to paste it in ...
[20:41] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  me to
[20:41] <Dreamglider> ^hashbang^:  it just does not work now
[20:41] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: can you help me? when i reload snaptic it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/116583/
[20:41] <Titan8990> hehe
[20:42] <logankoester> Why can't I add a user to www-data using "usermod -a -G  www-data <user>"?
[20:42] <dou213> thx Titan8990
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> s0101: sudo usermod -Gwireshark -a `whoami`
[20:42] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, sorry, this may have been the problem, you have to sudo dhclient:    sudo dhclient wlan0
[20:42] <^hashbang^> Rencx: hmm, I have no clue. let me try and run the refresh
[20:42] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: yeah it does thats why im confused. iwlist scanning and iwconfig both say im connected to my cell
[20:42] <Titan8990> logankoester, its adduser in debian
[20:42] <PopeZaph> Can someone help me change resolution on an Inspiron 600m?
[20:43] <^hashbang^> Rencx: oops, forgot I'm using 9.04... not sure if that matters or not
[20:43] <stefg> !fixres | PopeZaph
[20:43] <^hashbang^> Rencx: ok I was able to run "reload" withot issue
[20:43] <logankoester> thanks Titan8990
[20:43] <^hashbang^> Rencx: not sure what that error is about.
[20:44] <s0101> it says unknown group  wireshark
[20:44] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, try a reboot if you have not already
[20:44] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: it starts show up when i did some of steps from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[20:44] <^hashbang^> Rencx: try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1051577.html
[20:44] <Titan8990> s0101, maybe ubuntu does expect you to run it as root.....
[20:44] <constantine> hi all I'm wondering what is the best email program for ubuntu for gmail
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> s0101: i thought you said you had to be a member of the group?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> constantine: there is no BEST anything in linux
[20:45] <s0101> because they told  me run it as root is bad
[20:45] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip, I said that, that is the way it is in the distro I am currently using
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> constantine: its all personal preference
[20:45] <constantine> lol can you recommend one then
[20:45] <^hashbang^> constantine: BEST, is left up to you and what you like...
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Titan8990: ah, makes sense
[20:45] <Titan8990> constantine, evolution and thunderbird are popular
[20:45] <chnuebi> constantine: mutt is good, butt i dont know the specialties for gmail...
[20:45] <^hashbang^> constantine: prism is cool, or thunderbird
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> constantine: thunderbird has a googlemail wizard built in, other mail apps may integrate with other apps better
[20:46] <Dreamglider> thunderbird is nice
[20:46] <ConstantineXVI> is there a reason everyone's talking to me?
[20:46] <^hashbang^> constantine: ofcourse I'm a mozilla fan =)
[20:46] <constantine> haha constantine
[20:46] <^hashbang^> ConstantineXVI: different person
[20:46] <ConstantineXVI>  /facepalm
[20:46] <constantine> ok thanks I'll try thunderbird then
[20:46] <^hashbang^> kk
[20:46] <Dreamglider> firefox and thunderbird ;)
[20:46] <^hashbang^> good luck
[20:47] <Titan8990> ConstantineXVI, we are not....
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> constantine: theres even pine, mutt
[20:47] <^hashbang^> ActionParsnip: Pine is defunc, it's now called "Alpine"
[20:47] <constantine> god this channel gets more action than my ex gf
[20:47] <Dreamglider> lol
[20:47] <^hashbang^> it's a support channel
[20:48] <s0101> if  i dont care if its bad to run w-shark as root how  can i send all packets from the windows computer  to mine ubuntu8.10?
[20:48] <Titan8990> s0101, you have to poison the arp
[20:48] <||BillGates||> ;)
[20:48] <^hashbang^> s0101: you would need to do what's called "port mirroring" which I doubt your home route has
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> ^hashbang^: call me old fashioned
[20:48] <Titan8990> s0101, it will halt all internet traffic and your network will be screwy for a few hours
[20:48] <Titan8990> s0101, wireshark is not a remote sniffing tool
[20:49] <^hashbang^> ActionParsnip: =) I just found that out when installing it the other day =). I'm old school myself
[20:49] <s0101> I have a dlink  604 :(
[20:49] <wikkedfin> man
[20:49] <Titan8990> s0101, look into ettercap + arp poisoning
[20:49] <s0101> is there  a good remot
[20:49] <wikkedfin> i asked a question in a windows support chan and someone creamed me for being in here
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> ^hashbang^: best way, people with their flashy x servers an all
[20:49] <wikkedfin> thats just not right
[20:49] <Rencx> when i reload snaptic it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/116583/ it is afterhow i can fix Cario-Dock gpg?
[20:49] <Titan8990> s0101, if you don't want it to halt internet traffic, you will have to configure bridge sniffing and set up a tun/tap interface
[20:49] <^hashbang^> s0101: try http://www.pawelko.net/linux/17-Rpcapd-For-Linux-Remote-Sniffing-With-Etherealwireshark
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> wikkedfin: as long as you are civil and patient you shouldnt get banned anywhere
[20:50] <evilGUI> Would someone do my a favor and give me their md5sum of /usr/bin/ldd ?
[20:50] <constantine> I just installed ubuntu and was wondering if there are a few things I should do right away to make it more secure
[20:50] <s0101> is there any good keylogger (Free) for vista that dosent harm the computer?
[20:50] <wikkedfin> lol
[20:50]  * PopeZaph notes this is a pain in the neck
[20:50] <wikkedfin> i get banned cuz i do stupid stuff
[20:50] <wikkedfin> cuz idk how to work anything
[20:50] <tonyyarusso> evilGUI: You'll want to specify your version and architecture.
[20:51] <ortsvorsteher> evilGUI: b61a0a9205d4761a9862a7f208a8139b  /usr/bin/ldd
[20:51] <tiredbones> I installed HUB on my 8.04 release. I was able to do the backup to cd, but when i click on System ->  Administration -> Home user Restore, nothing happens. Are there other packages that I have to install?
[20:51] <evilGUI> ortsvorsteher: Thanks =)
[20:51] <ortsvorsteher> you' re welcome evilGUI
[20:51] <Rencx> when i reload snaptic it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/116583/ it is after i add cario dock repository. How i can fix Cario-Dock gpg?
[20:51] <tonyyarusso> evilGUI: mine's 286f01dca16e31a03f12d24ef3755a30 :P
[20:51] <Pici> !gpgerr | Rencx (but use 60D11217247D1CFF
[20:52] <marcelkoopman> hi
[20:52] <evilGUI> Thanks everyone.
[20:52] <^hashbang^> welcome
[20:52] <^hashbang^> =)
[20:52] <quibbler> ortsvorsteher: 286f01dca16e31a03f12d24ef3755a30  ldd
[20:52] <marcelkoopman> where can I find the system boot messages? please dont say dmesg, because thats not that I look for
[20:52] <tonyyarusso> marcelkoopman: what sorts of messages do you want?
[20:52] <ortsvorsteher> quibbler: evilGUI needed it :)
[20:52] <Rencx> Pici: can you explain please?
[20:53] <quibbler> ortsvorsteher: sorry;)
[20:53] <marcelkoopman> tonyyarusso, the messages that appear during system boot
[20:53] <SEVILLA_1> Titan8990: HEY I GOT IT. I JUST NEEDED TO DO DHCLIENT WLANO. THANKS ALOT!!!!
[20:53] <ortsvorsteher> no problem quibbler
[20:53] <SEVILLA_1> Titan8990: HEY I GOT IT. I JUST NEEDED TO DO DHCLIENT WLANO. THANKS ALOT!!!!
[20:53] <tonyyarusso> marcelkoopman: /var/log/messages
[20:53] <^hashbang^> !caps
[20:53] <marcelkoopman> tonyyarusso, those didnt contain a fatal message i saw during boot
[20:53] <Pici> Rencx: run this: gpg --keyser hkp://subkeys.php.net --recv-keys 60D11217247D1CFF
[20:54] <Pici> Rencx: then: gpg --export --armor 60D11217247D1CFF | sudo apt-key add -
[20:54] <Titan8990> SEVILLA_1, excellent, good to hear you got it working
[20:54] <derspankster> I get no screen from DVI after usplash with Nvidia card. Any ideas anyone?
[20:54] <tonyyarusso> marcelkoopman: well, grep for the message in /var/log then.
[20:54] <marcelkoopman> tonyyarusso, i did
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: http://gentoo-blog.de/?p=501
[20:54] <marcelkoopman> tonyyarusso, it does not contain boot messages
[20:54] <JonathanD> wikkedfin: I found your drivers.
[20:55] <marcelkoopman> tonyyarusso, i want the same logging you see when booting, thats not in there
[20:55] <Neku> can anyone help me install openvpn i gt so far and am now stuck
[20:55]  * PopeZaph looks for his WinXP CD since changing resolution in Ubuntu requires editing text files
[20:56] <^hashbang^> lol
[20:56] <Assid> hehehe
[20:56] <marcelkoopman> tonyyarusso, in /var/log/boot there is nothing there, nothing logged yet it says
[20:56] <marcelkoopman> tonyyarusso, have you tried this before?
[20:56] <Assid> ^hashbang^: if i plan to use something like find . |xargs -i assid   , and the folders have spaces etc.. how do i makje this work?
[20:56] <Tuxiscool> Hi there; how can I get the clock to display unix time in Ubuntu 8.10? It's listed as an option in the clock preferences help, but not in the actual preferences.
[20:56] <Neku> can anyone help me install openvpn i gt so far and am now stuck
[20:56] <`Matir> Assid, use the -0 (zero) flag to find and xargs.
[20:57] <^hashbang^> Assid: what Matir: said =)
[20:57] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | Neku
[20:57] <tonyyarusso> marcelkoopman: Finding vague messages of some kind given at some stage of the boot process in some boot output option?  Nope.
[20:57] <ortsvorsteher> !details | Neku
[20:58] <Neku> ortsvorsteher : i know ok
[20:58] <marcelkoopman> tonyyarusso, thanks anyway, not your fault
[20:58] <smurf> hy guys. ! can't boot a ubuntu cd. Someone could help me? The errors is aperture beyond 4gb
[20:58] <Assid> find . |xargs -0
[20:58] <Assid> xargs: argument line too long
[20:58] <Rencx> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116595/ get this eror
[20:59] <Assid> if i add it to find , then i get find: invalid predicate `-0'
[20:59] <smurf> The cd starts running but never initiate the kernel
[20:59] <Rencx> ActionParsnip i gat this eror after 1st line ActionParsnip
[21:00] <marcelkoopman> find -name "*.txt" | xargs -n1 cat
[21:00] <Rencx> ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/116595/
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: make sure you are the owner of the file, and have full write permissions
[21:01] <a931bw> Hi all any1 can help me? i'm can't write to my 16 gb KINGSTOn flash
[21:01] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: i write sudo before
[21:01] <Assid> ?
[21:01] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: now it dont work
[21:01] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | a931bw
[21:01] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, its formatted as NTFS?
[21:01] <a931bw> Nope
[21:01] <a931bw> fat32
[21:02] <a931bw> if i format it on linux my dv can't see it
[21:02] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, if you plugin the flash, and do the command 'dmesg' what do you see?
[21:02] <smurf> I saw my error in this forum: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963892&page=3
[21:02] <Tuxiscool> How can I get the clock to display UNIX time in Ubuntu 8.10? It's listed as an option in the clock preferences help, but not in the actual preferences. If not is there terminal command I can use to see it?
[21:02] <smurf> someone could help me?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[21:02] <smurf> I didn't found a solution yet
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: theres a key there
[21:03] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: yes but it dont work
[21:03] <^hashbang^> wow I know this is OT but has anyone seen the stockmarket (us) -382.15
[21:03] <Titan8990> Tuxiscool, what formart is unix time?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> smurf: my system does that but it doesnt affect anything
[21:03] <Titan8990> err format
[21:03] <Guest944> Can I update from 8.4 to 8.10 using the disk and without losing all my files?
[21:03] <Pici> ^hashbang^: Then you should know of #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:03] <Tuxiscool> Titan8990: The number of seconds since January 1st, 1970.
[21:04] <a931bw> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/116597/
[21:04] <marcelkoopman> Guest944, make a backup first
[21:04] <Titan8990> Tuxiscool, lol is today the 12345678 day or whatever?
[21:04] <a931bw> guest
[21:04] <Guest944> Whats a good backup program?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Titan8990: unix time is MMDDhhmmYYYY
[21:04] <Titan8990> Guest944, depends if you want filebackup or partition image
[21:04] <Necrogamemaster> smurf: what seems to be your problem?
[21:04] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: maybe it is because i insert only interpid repos?
[21:05] <Guest944> filebackup
[21:05] <marcelkoopman> Guest944, use a simple copy command
[21:05] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip, if that is the case than the date command from the terminal will display unix command
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: if you are using intrepid, thats all you need
[21:05] <rainofka1os> txt\quit
[21:05] <rainofka1os> oops
[21:05] <Tuxiscool> Titan8990: Almost. I'm just curious to see the 'anniversary.'
[21:05] <Titan8990> marcelkoopman, I have to disagree there, there are so many great tools to be using cp
[21:05] <Titan8990> marcelkoopman, unless you are doing cp -al
[21:05] <a931bw> Help plz
[21:06] <marcelkoopman> Titan8990, i've never used these tools, cp is enough for me, but you are right
[21:06] <a931bw> i'm need to write film to flash
[21:06] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, its to big for fat32? > 4 GB?
[21:06] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: then what is wrong? i have gpg eror here http://paste.ubuntu.com/116595/
[21:06] <Guest944> I don't have a 2nd partition on my harddrive to store a backup
[21:06] <Titan8990> Guest944, I would recommend rsync or tar for file backup
[21:06] <ojacquet> The db2exc package mentioned on http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/ibm/db2 is nowhere to be found in the partner repo. Does anyone know where I can find it?
[21:06] <a931bw> marcel
[21:06] <drash> Tuxiscool: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330923 might be of interest, bottomline: edit a gconf setting to format the date/time to your liking
[21:06] <Titan8990> Guest944, where do you plan to store it?
[21:06] <a931bw> it 16 gb
[21:07] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, the movie is 16 gb?
[21:07] <Guest944> Good question
[21:07] <Assid> `Matir: how its not workin for me
[21:07] <Guest944> I am having connection problems
[21:07] <Tuxiscool> drash: Excellent. Much appreciated.
[21:07] <Titan8990> Guest944, keeping it on the same drive and partition isn't much of a backup
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: check ownership and read/write access on the file
[21:07] <a931bw> Nope
[21:07] <Guest944> No...
[21:07] <a931bw> Flash is 16gb
[21:08] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, what happens when you plugin the flash? it is recognized?
[21:08] <Guest944> No way to upgrade without losing files?
[21:08] <a931bw> it's opens
[21:08] <marcelkoopman> yes...
[21:08] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: sory for noob questions i'm new.. but where is file?
[21:08] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, and you cant write to it
[21:08] <_theradar> anybody have issues with a dual head setup?  I get an error about the virtual resolution not being big enough when I try and set it up in the Screen Resolution Tool
[21:08] <`Matir> Assid, what command are you trying to run with xargs?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: read your error message, it tells you ;)
[21:09] <a931bw> Yes
[21:09] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, what is the location shown in the file manager when you click on the flash icon
[21:09] <tiredbones> I used HUB to backup my home directory, but the restore does not work, nor just inserting the cd, as the instruction proclaim. So, I would to execute the command for the restore. How dose one tell DAR to read the CD for the restore?
[21:10] <a931bw> /media/KINGSTON
[21:10] <`Matir> Assid, try something like: "find . -print0 <options> | xargs -0 somecommand".  If you have multiple arguments to somecommand and need it quoted, look at the -i option to xargs.
[21:10] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, ls -al /media/KINGSTON
[21:10] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, what does it give back?
[21:11] <a931bw> ls: невозможно получить доступ к /media/KINGSTON/.Trash-999: Input/output error
[21:11] <a931bw> итого 20
[21:11] <a931bw> drwx------ 4 root root 8192 1970-01-01 03:00 .
[21:11] <a931bw> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2009-02-10 23:02 ..
[21:11] <a931bw> drwx------ 3 root root 8192 2009-02-06 17:54 Karinos
[21:11] <FloodBot1> a931bw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:11] <Assid> `Matir:  find . -print0 |xargs -0 grep -H -i reena | grep -i -e '[doctor|physician]' > found
[21:11] <a931bw> can't acces
[21:11] <a931bw> ls: невозможно получить доступ к /media/KINGSTON/.Trash-999: Input/output error
[21:11] <a931bw> is
[21:11] <a931bw> can't get access
[21:11] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | a931bw
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> a931bw: try chown-ing it
[21:12] <a931bw> What?
[21:12] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 7D2C7A23BF810CD5 in long key i must use my own key?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> a931bw: change owner, its ownder by root right now
[21:12] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, sudo chown -R user:user /media/KINGSTON
[21:12] <a931bw> i'm on root now
[21:13] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, why are you root? you should not be root, but user
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> a931bw: check your mount options. I think you may have mounted wrong and written data to the partition with sudo
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> a931bw: you shouldnt be root, do yuo mean sudo -i ?
[21:13] <unicum> how do i change the mac address again?
[21:14] <a931bw> i'm on root now
[21:14] <a931bw> root user
[21:14] <marcelkoopman> on root?
[21:14] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, are you using ubuntu
[21:14] <tiredbones> I used HUB to backup my home directory, but the restore does not work, nor just inserting the cd, as the instruction proclaim. So, I would to execute the command for the restore. How dose one tell DAR to read the CD for the restore?
[21:14] <Titan8990> unicum, you have to have macchanger
[21:14] <a931bw> Yes
[21:14] <nickrud_> unicum, in the interfaces file?   hwaddress ether <address>
[21:14] <Titan8990> unicum, and you use the macchanger command
[21:14] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, how do you log in?
[21:15] <unicum> won't the shell let me do this via ifconfig?
[21:15] <a931bw> Change'd setting's in login screen
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> a931bw: you shouldnt enable the root account, its not needed
[21:15] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, log in as a normal user
[21:15] <unicum> nickrud_ interfaces file.. path to?
[21:15] <bennenat> I just installed a week ago and when i play any song on it, through rythmbox or totem it will skip parts of the song. any ideas?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> a931bw: and it reduces security logging on as root as well
[21:16] <unicum> ah.. found it
[21:16] <unicum> nevermind
[21:16] <nickrud_> unicum, yes; /etc/network/interfaces
[21:16] <a931bw> Please i'm haven't time
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> unicum: are you familiar with the drink zwack?
[21:17] <Spreadsheet> hello
[21:17] <marcelkoopman> Spreadsheet, nice nickname, how original
[21:17] <Spreadsheet> whenever i press the up arrow key on this computer, it takes a screenshot
[21:17] <Spreadsheet> marcelkoopman: yeah whatever
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: are you running compiz?
[21:17] <Spreadsheet> how do i stop this?
[21:17] <Spreadsheet> yes
[21:17] <nickrud_> Spreadsheet, system->prefs->keyboard shortcuts, check the settings
[21:17] <Spreadsheet> i'll just turn off compiz
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: check your shortcut to take a shortcut and then if it uses alt / ctrl etc, press the key to exercise it out
[21:18] <Spreadsheet> now it's working
[21:18] <marcelkoopman> Spreadsheet, Excel or OpenOffice Calc?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: its probably jammed down
[21:18] <nickrud_> !ot | marcelkoopman
[21:18] <Spreadsheet> i disabled compiz
[21:18] <Spreadsheet> thanks
[21:18] <bennenat> I just installed a week ago and when i play any song on it, through rythmbox or totem it will skip parts of the song. any ideas?
[21:19] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: thank you for help i figuret it out somehow :D
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: awesome
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: wtg
[21:19] <Ciolivera> what wherer u from ¿
[21:19] <Ciolivera> ??
[21:19] <a931bw> Please HELP
[21:19] <marcelkoopman> Ciolivera, what??
[21:19] <a931bw> why i'm can't acces my usb flash?
[21:20] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, log in as a normal user
[21:20] <a931bw> Why/
[21:20] <a931bw> it oesn't matter
[21:20] <a931bw> okay wait
[21:20] <marcelkoopman> bye
[21:20] <marcelkoopman> hehe
[21:20] <bennenat> soo no one has any ideas on the song skipping?
[21:20] <Assid> err how do i reset compiz changes ?
[21:21] <marcelkoopman> bennenat, nope
[21:21] <Assid> like i changed the compiz effects
[21:21] <bennenat> :(
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> bennenat: does a reboot help?
[21:21] <danbhfive> bennenat: try vlc
[21:21] <BobCFC> woohoo Miro 2.0 is much better
[21:21] <marcelkoopman> bennenat, maybe the mp3 is corrupt? bad file?
[21:21]  * ActionParsnip hates people logging on as / enabling root account
[21:21] <marcelkoopman> BobCFC, what is Miro?
[21:21] <ArcSighter> Hello people, how can I reference to ActiveDirectory users from squid, the same [at] = @ syntax?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> !info miro
[21:22] <a931bw> i'm on normal user
[21:22] <bennenat> i've tried several different songs, and nope rebooting doesnt help. i'll try VLC but i think for some reason the codecs for mp3's arent installing right?
[21:22] <marcelkoopman> still dont know what miro can do
[21:22] <chnuebi> enabling root can be safer, if someone starts your pc in runlevel 1. Or not?
[21:22] <a931bw> What to do now?
[21:22] <BobCFC> It's for watching video podcasts and other internet TV, new version launched today
[21:22] <grenadejumpr> miro 2 is better than what? miro 1?
[21:22] <marcelkoopman> bennenat, you have medibuntu repositories enabled?
[21:22] <drash> Assid: if you're using ccsm to control compiz settings, that has a 'reset to defaults' option in preferences
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> marcelkoopman: http://www.getmiro.com/
[21:22] <BobCFC> much more stable and faster
[21:22] <bennenat> marcelkoopman, one sec
[21:23] <a931bw> What to o with usb flash now?
[21:23] <marcelkoopman> ActionParsnip, thanks, i would have never found it without you
[21:23] <grenadejumpr> ah, oki
[21:23] <bennenat> a931bw, uninstall.
[21:23] <Kragnerac1> :)
[21:23] <a931bw> ?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> marcelkoopman: i have black belt google-fu and 2nd dan ask.com-chi
[21:23] <Assid> drash broken
[21:24]  * marcelkoopman installing miro now
[21:24] <BobCFC> they have ubuntu repos for miro 2.0 already
[21:24] <drash> Assid: what is broken exactly ?
[21:24] <marcelkoopman> BobCFC, where can i get miro 2.0?
[21:24] <Assid> drash: errr.. nvm, this time it reset :P
[21:24] <BobCFC> 1 sec
[21:24] <PleXuS> hi all
[21:24] <LaTiaLaVara> hola
[21:24] <chnuebi> a931bw: sudo bash after enter password enter passwd then enter your password for root twice and then hes enabled...
[21:24] <LaTiaLaVara> qué tal?
[21:24] <drash> Assid: no prob :)
[21:24] <BobCFC> http://www.getmiro.com/download/for-ubuntu/
[21:25] <marcelkoopman> BobCFC, of course, stupid me
[21:25] <PleXuS> i have issue with mdadm raid on ubuntu.. i can't mount /dev/md/0 ?
[21:25] <tiredbones> I used HUB to backup my home directory, but the restore does not work, nor just inserting the cd, as the instruction proclaim. So, I would to execute the command for the restore. How dose one tell DAR to read the CD for the restore?
[21:25] <dennda> How well does OO.org presenter work when saving a presentation as powerpoint file and presenting it with the original powerpoint software later on?
[21:25] <a931bw> ???
[21:25] <treenester> anyone tried verizon usb broadband stick?
[21:25] <ArcSighter> how can I refrence active directory groups in squid.conf?"
[21:25] <PleXuS> mdadm: error opening /dev/md/0: No such device or address
[21:25] <BobCFC> marcelkoopman, no not ur fault, the default linux download offeerces sourcecode.. you have to click around to get the debs
[21:26] <marcelkoopman> BobCFC, I have added the repository, now upgrading
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> treenester: i haven't, but do you know where i can find info about their mobile broadband plans?>.. i can't find info on their site
[21:26] <PleXuS> anyone any idea why it won't work? :s
[21:26] <Assid> we need some better looking themes
[21:26] <Assid> human sucks :(
[21:26] <a931bw> i'm can't write to my flash any1 help em
[21:26] <marcelkoopman> Assid, make one
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> Assid: http://www.gnome-look.org
[21:26] <treenester> i know it's ~$60 here in AL,US for "unlimited"
[21:27] <a931bw> i'm can't write to my flash any1 help me
[21:27] <Assid> is there any addon like beryl and emerald used to be?
[21:27] <BobCFC> marcelkoopman, it can handle torrents better now too, so you can subscribe to a tv show via rss
[21:27] <IndyGunFreak> treenester: hmm, i wish i could find info on that somewhere
[21:27] <Assid> emerald rather
[21:27] <marcelkoopman> BobCFC, it can do torrent downloads? cool
[21:27] <a931bw> i'm can't write to my flash any1 help me
[21:27] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, did you do chown already?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !munt | a931bw
[21:27] <a931bw> How?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !mount | a931bw
[21:27] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, sudo chown -R user:user /media/KINGSTON
[21:27] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, replace user with your username
[21:27] <a931bw> user|user?
[21:27] <treenester> what about tethering or bluetoothing a blackberry?
[21:28] <aaditya> it has 900 members right now
[21:28] <aaditya> wrong window, sorry
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> a931bw: sudo chown -R <username> /media/KINGSTON
[21:28] <diffred> what do I need to be able to #include <gtk/gtk.h>     ?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> diffred: try apt-file
[21:29] <diffred> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get apt-file?
[21:29] <nickrud_> diffred, libgtk2.0-dev
[21:29] <a931bw> error
[21:29] <diffred> nickrud_:thanks!
[21:29] <a931bw> read only file sistem
[21:29] <BobCFC> diffred, look for packages with -dev to get headeres
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> diffred: sudo apt-get install apt-file
[21:29] <nickrud_> diffred, but ActionParsnip 's advice about apt-file is really useful for finding headers while compiling
[21:29] <a931bw> now i'm ca't viewev!
[21:29] <a931bw> folder
[21:29] <marcelkoopman> a931bw,  fsck.fat32 /media/KINGSTON
[21:29] <bennenat> marcelkoopman, i have enabled medibuntu repo
[21:29] <diffred> gonna do both :)
[21:29] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, you have errors on the usb disk
[21:30] <a931bw> How to fix it?
[21:30] <diffred> ActionParsnip: Once I've dowloaded it, how should I use it to find the packages to do that include?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> nickrud_: apt-file search gtk.h
[21:30] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, sudo fsck.vfat  /media/KINGSTON
[21:30] <chnuebi> a931bw: format that stick. i think there are errors on it...
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> diffred: see above
[21:30] <marcelkoopman> chnuebi, NO!
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> nickrud_: wrong target, sorry
[21:30] <BobCFC> ActionParsnip, cool tip
[21:30] <diffred> ActionParsnip: seen it :) thanks!
[21:31] <a931bw> sudo fsck.vfat  /media/KINGSTON
[21:31] <treenester> anyone ever tethered or bluetoothed a blackberry as a broadband modem?
[21:31] <marcelkoopman> BobCFC, where can i get more channels for miro?
[21:31] <a931bw> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[21:31] <a931bw> Read 512 bytes at 0:Is a directory
[21:31] <nickrud_> diffred, sudo apt-file update && apt-file search <filename>  (the update only needs to be run once)
[21:31] <a931bw> wtf is it?
[21:31] <BobCFC> marcelkoopman, browse the guide. or any website that has RSS feeds
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> BobCFC: its a good laugh
[21:31] <chnuebi> marcelkoopman: stay relaxed^^
[21:31] <Rencx> why cairo-dock is so slow?
[21:31] <diffred> nickrud_:thanks so much!
[21:31] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, your usb has filesystem errors i think, you need to repair it in windows
[21:31] <a931bw> awn is best
[21:32] <a931bw> i do it
[21:32] <a931bw> But can't access in linux
[21:32] <Titan8990> IMO not linux docks are up to speed.....
[21:32] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, if it has errors no you cannot access it
[21:32] <BobCFC> marcelkoopman, when in miro guide just click add.  or in firfox copy and rss link then goto Sidebar->Add Feed in miro to subscribe
[21:32] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, then its readonly to prevent more damage
[21:32] <marcelkoopman> BobCFC, where can I find video RSS? any tips?
[21:33] <Rencx> Somone here use cairo-dock..? For me it is lagy and slow how can i change it?
[21:33] <BobCFC> 1 sec
[21:33] <a931bw> What i'm can to do?
[21:33] <christiandsuarez> hola
[21:34] <christiandsuarez> alguien sabe como hacer para que me funcione el google heart
[21:34] <Rencx> Somone here use cairo-dock..? For me it is lagy and slow how can i change it?
[21:34] <quibbler> !es
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: used to, got rid today
[21:35] <BobCFC> Rencx, try new dockymode of Gnome-Do
[21:35] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, go to windows repair the filesystem on the media, or re-format the media if you can lose what it on it
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: make sure you have video drivers installed
[21:35] <alien> I insert USB flash and it says "ypou are not privileged to mount" however I'm the only user on the system with root perms, and all checkboxes are checked on in the users properties to allow to do anything, any solutions?
[21:35] <diffred> is there any problem if after running apt-file update I get Can't get http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Contents-i386.gz Can't get http://ppa.launchpad.net/mapopa/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Contents-i386.gz
[21:35] <a931bw> is there way to do it on linux
[21:35] <a931bw> uit very important
[21:35] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: you also have some lags? what video drives i need?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: run: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:36] <tasos> Hello is anybody who Knows about Geogebra ? I can't copy in memory a shape and paste to Writer.
[21:36] <Rencx> BobCFC: but it is not the same as RocketDock
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: if you havent installed video drivers, thats why its slow
[21:36] <BobCFC> better!
[21:36] <kleer> i'm getting a very weird bug
[21:36] <Joker_-__> .
[21:36] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, again
[21:36] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: but extras work for my pc..
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: they will if your pc is decent enough
[21:37] <Rencx> acti
[21:37] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GT (rev a1)
[21:37] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, sudo fsck.vfat -a /media/KINGSTON
[21:37] <Titan8990> Rencx, gksu jockey-gtk
[21:37] <Titan8990> Rencx, install your drivers there
[21:37] <Rencx> Titan8990: what it is?
[21:38] <alien> I insert USB flash and it says "ypou are not privileged to mount" however I'm the only user on the system with root perms, and all checkboxes are checked on in the users properties to allow to do anything, any solutions?
[21:38] <a931bw> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[21:38] <a931bw> open /media/KINGSTON:Is a directory
[21:38] <a931bw> That shit
[21:38] <bennenat> so after i add the medibuntu repository, sudo apt-get install w32codecs?
[21:38] <FloodBot1> a931bw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <Titan8990> Rencx, copy and paste that to the terminal
[21:38] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, did you insert the usb flash?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[21:38] <a931bw> Yes
[21:38] <timahvo1> !checkinstall
[21:38] <Titan8990> Rencx, jockey-gtk is the restricted drivers manager for ubuntu
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: then gksudo nvidia-settings
[21:39] <marcelkoopman> ActionParsnip, 180 is out already
[21:39] <Titan8990> !nvidia | Rencx
[21:39] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, can you click on the icon and what location is it giving in the file manager?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Rencx: or try nvidia-glx-180
[21:39] <SEVILLA> Titan8990:hey everything seems to working fine like synaptic, elinks, and the cli but for some reason i cant connect to the www gui
[21:39] <Rencx> Titan8990: i alredy have nivida drivers installed
[21:39] <kleer> so I download a torrent... 1 folder with 2 files in it.... torrent finishes downloaded: 100%... transmission torrent client shows files at 100%... i try to view the folder contents in nautilus AND terminal and it doesnt show anything, nautilus acts like it's loading and terminal simply shows nothing
[21:39] <solo_> hi,do u recommend ubuntu as a webserver for a celly433-with 192MB RAM
[21:39] <a931bw> /media/KINGSTON
[21:40] <tommalleymalley> anyone feel like helping a noob
[21:40] <Rencx> ActionParsnip: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:40] <marcelkoopman> a931bw,  sudo fsck.vfat -a /media/KINGSTON
[21:40] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, which www gui? for your router?
[21:40] <tom760> I have a list of files output from a command using find -exec grep.  What would be a good option for executing a command for each file but with slight path modification?
[21:40] <xorred> guys backtrack4 which is based on ubuntu, is realeasing a beta version as soon as the remote-exploit channel gets 400 people in the room
[21:40] <a931bw> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[21:40] <a931bw> open /media/KINGSTON:Is a directory
[21:40] <KyleK> solo_: how much traffic does the webserver get?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> marcelkoopman: isnt 180 in jaunty only?
[21:40] <xorred> so please give us a hand and join #remote-exploit!
[21:40] <bennenat> marcelkoopman, so after i add the medibuntu repository, sudo apt-get install w32codecs?
[21:40] <marcelkoopman> ActionParsnip, could be
[21:40] <marcelkoopman> bennenat, yes
[21:40] <KyleK> xorred: lol
[21:41] <xorred> no lol that's SERIOUS
[21:41] <xorred> move your arse over there
[21:41] <xorred> 303 people now
[21:41] <solo_> KyleK just for testing php scripts,will use it as a web server
[21:41] <xorred> we need just 70 more
[21:41] <xorred> 93
[21:41] <FloodBot1> xorred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <KyleK> oh go nuts then
[21:41] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, sorry my mistake
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> marcelkoopman: i'm gonna give it a go myself
[21:41] <xorred> I don't flood ;)
[21:41] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: no just for my notebook, if i use ethernet cable it works but not for wlano
[21:41] <Titan8990> xorred, I thought they always release their new beta builds on one of the head dev's birthdays....
[21:41] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, can you do this please: mount | grep KINGSTON
[21:42] <tommalleymalley> upgraded to 8.4 and all kind of funny things happening would appreciate some help if poss?
[21:42] <a931bw> /dev/sdb1 on /media/KINGSTON type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=0,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[21:42] <marcelkoopman> a931bw,  sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/sdb1
[21:43] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, umount /dev/sdb1
[21:43] <tiredbones> I just read on one of the ubuntu web sites that unbuntu does not plan on having good backup and restore until release 9.04. Is this true?
[21:43] <cherva> I've put a function in my .bashrc file and I don't know how to use it can someone explain it to me... the function is extract(){.........} it detects the files extension and then uses the correct program to extract them, but when I type extract FILE bash tells me that extract is not installed and to install it type apt-get install extract
[21:43] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[21:43] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: no just for my notebook, if i use ethernet cable it works but not for wlano
[21:43] <xorred> Titan8990: this one is different
[21:43] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, only http is a problem?
[21:43] <xorred> beta release is first for the irc community
[21:43] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: im actually using it right now for irc
[21:43] <alien> I insert USB flash and it says "ypou are not privileged to mount" however I'm the only user on the system with root perms, and all checkboxes are checked on in the users properties to allow to do anything, any solutions?
[21:43] <xorred> but only if the channel gets 400 people in it
[21:43] <tommalleymalley> If anyone knows how to get my screen resolution back or stop the splash screen hanging would be cool
[21:43] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: correct
[21:44] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: correct
[21:44] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, does iptables -l return any rules?
[21:44] <diffred> what does it mean `pkg-config --libs --cflags gtk+-2.0` when compiling some C code with included gtk.h
[21:44] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, works now?
[21:44] <PodMan99a> hey all... using 8.04 on x64 im unable to get zend installed... is there a repo for it?? as download from zend.com not work ?
[21:44] <a931bw> no :(
[21:44] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, what happened?
[21:44] <a931bw> i'm go to sleep
[21:44] <a931bw> tomorow ok?
[21:45] <a931bw> :(
[21:45] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, ok
[21:45] <a931bw> What time u have now?
[21:45] <a931bw> i'm 23:45
[21:45] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, local time 22:45
[21:45] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, i have to work tomorrow
[21:45] <a931bw> i'm online in about 18-19 h
[21:45] <Rencx> Titan8990: why you give me thet link?
[21:45] <a931bw> u be?
[21:45] <romankrv> Hi. How create chain folders wich not exist yet. mkdir create only one folder
[21:45] <marcelkoopman> a931bw, i'm not sure, but many people can help you here
[21:46] <marcelkoopman> isnt that right people?
[21:46] <a931bw> okay
[21:46] <a931bw> bye then
[21:46] <marcelkoopman> bye
[21:46] <Titan8990> Rencx, because we thought you didn't have the proprietary drivers
[21:46] <marcelkoopman> romankrv, mkdir -p
[21:46] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: what am i looking for in this list its long, scroling off the screen
[21:46] <oCean_> cherva: I'm not sure how that thing works where ubuntu says "you can install it by typing ..etc" .. However, what if you give your function in basrc an other name? like my_extract. Just to see what happens
[21:46] <Rencx> Titan8990: it seems i have drivers but it dont work even with them it is lag and still slow :)
[21:46] <marcelkoopman> romankrv, mkdir -p 1/2/3/4/5
[21:47] <howlingmadhowie> hi everybody! i'm just playing about with compiz and have set my desktop to rotate as a sphere. when it does this however, the sphere is so high, that i can only see the bottom two-thirds when it rotates. is there some setting where you can control where the sphere or cube is placed?
[21:47] <Titan8990> Rencx, I think there is a compiz option to show FPS
[21:47] <Rencx> Titan8990: compiz?
[21:48] <cherva> oCean_: bash: my_function: command not found
[21:48] <quibbler> howlingmadhowie: you can better ask in #compiz-fusion
[21:48] <Titan8990> Rencx, compiz is required to run cairo.... you have to have it enabled
[21:48] <Titan8990> !ccsm | Rencx
[21:48] <howlingmadhowie> quibbler: thanks :)
[21:48] <oCean_> cherva: ow.. I think I know
[21:48] <cherva> oCean_: ops forgot to restart bash :)
[21:48] <oCean_> cherva: I was about to say that
[21:48] <cherva> oCean_: :) 10x
[21:49] <oCean_> cherva: well, not 'restart' bash... just type "source .basrc" that will read the file again
[21:49] <marcelkoopman> oCean_, source can be replaced by .
[21:49] <oCean_> marcelkoopman: yep
[21:50] <cherva> oCean_: sadly extract is a nice name for that function....
[21:50] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: what am i looking for in this list its long, scroling off the screen
[21:50] <oCean_> cherva: I think that should work. Did the name-change work??
[21:50] <bdelin88> Is there anyone that could help me out with a wordpress problem, i can't get any help from wordpress channel?? i need know how to remove the widget restriction in wp? i want to add infinite instances of every widget on dif. side bars if need be
[21:51] <cherva> oCean_: yes
[21:51] <oCean_> cherva: 'cause I added a function called 'extract' to my bashrc, and it executes nicely.
[21:51] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, how did you configure iptables?
[21:51] <bdelin88> any wordpressers out there that could help?
[21:51] <Rencx> Titan8990: yes i have compiz installed but does it change something?
[21:51] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, did you add your own rules or use some kind of gui?
[21:52] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: yeah im using firestarter
[21:52] <Titan8990> Rencx, it adds visual effects, you have to configure it with ccsm
[21:52] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, ewww
[21:52] <[Ramy]> can anyone helps me to get my mic working ?
[21:52] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, firestarter is a dead project, didn't know it was still in synaptic
[21:52] <Rencx> Titan8990: i have some efects also
[21:52] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: should i learn how to use iptables
[21:52] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, disable the firewall completely
[21:52] <cherva> oCean_: hmm when I changed it back to extract it works ok now....strange
[21:53] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, that would be good but possible unnessarry
[21:53] <dyf> hello.. when i close a tab with flash content, firefox freezes for about 7 seconds.. what's the problem?
[21:53] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: as in firestarter
[21:53] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, ufw is the tool in ubuntu that is used to configure iptables
[21:53] <oCean_> cherva: cheers :)
[21:53] <cherva> oCean_: thx
[21:53] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, but IMO, learning actual iptables scripts are the best way to go
[21:53] <bdelin88> Is there anyone that could help me out with a wordpress problem, i can't get any help from wordpress channel?? i need know how to remove the widget restriction in wp? i want to add infinite instances of every widget on dif. side bars if need be
[21:53] <SEVILLA> Titan8990: so learn how to use ufw
[21:53] <Rencx> Titan8990: but it is still slow
[21:53] <Titan8990> !ufw | sevilla
[21:54] <Hillshum> I've lost my network connection(it works on localhost but multiple adapters won't connect outside)
[21:54] <SEVILLA> Titan8990:  k i will look into it
[21:54] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
[21:54] <bdelin88> Is there anyone that could help me out with a wordpress problem, i can't get any help from wordpress channel?? i need know how to remove the widget restriction in wp? i want to add infinite instances of every widget on dif. side bars if need be
[21:55] <SEVILLA> Titan8990:  thanks for your help
[21:55] <Titan8990> SEVILLA, np, good luck
[21:56] <adante> hey folks just confirming, jfs is ok for a enterprise filesystem right
[21:56] <Bsims> Anyone ever use a lua script with elinks on ubuntu? I am not sure where to place it to get it to work
[21:57] <juam> hola
[21:57] <tiredbones> my test
[21:57] <juam> hola alguien me puede decir de algun
[21:58] <juam> programa para ubuntu para editar video
[21:58] <ltgg> anyone: synaptic failed with this msg: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:58] <ltgg> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.  How do I reinstall dpkg? thanks.
[21:59] <Titan8990> ltgg, going to teach you something very important about linux
[21:59] <quibbler> !es
[21:59] <Titan8990> ltgg, error messages are useful, unlike windows
[21:59] <Titan8990> ltgg, look closely at the error you got
[21:59] <Titan8990> ltgg, it says: "you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[21:59] <alien> I insert USB flash and it says "ypou are not privileged to mount" however I'm the only user on the system with root perms, and all checkboxes are checked on in the users properties to allow to do anything, any solutions?
[21:59] <Titan8990> ltgg, it tells you the command to run in order to fix your issue
[22:00] <Titan8990> ltgg, run:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:00] <ltgg> titan8990: I did that, did not correct problem.
[22:00] <Titan8990> ltgg, what did that command return?
[22:00] <dostaola> ist
[22:00] <Titan8990> ltgg, also, did you remember to sudo it?
[22:00] <Hillshum> alien : but sudo is still needed to do something as root
[22:01] <ltgg> titan: don't have listing handy, ran dpkg, may haev ending in an error ??
[22:01] <laurent1> EXUSE ME ? HOW CAN I JOIN A SERVER IRQ
[22:01] <Titan8990> ltgg, pastebin it
[22:01] <alien> Hillshum, another USB flash used to work just fine, i insert it and it works
[22:01] <ltgg> titan: how to pastebin?
[22:01] <Hillshum> okay
[22:01] <Titan8990> !pastebin | ltgg
[22:02] <ltgg> titan: thanks , will do, and return to forum
[22:02] <Titan8990> ltgg, kk
[22:04] <Assid> anyone here played with mailman
[22:04] <Assid> my outgoingrunner is stuck eating all the cpu
[22:04] <quibbler> laurent1: please don't shout ...you are on a sever at this moment...do you wish to connect to another server?
[22:04] <RdeWilde> Q: Anyone knows why my boot could say "Could not execute /init - not foud ..."  It's  IN  initrd.img :S
[22:05] <raboof> i'm using the ion3 window manager
[22:05] <mustangg> hi. Would anyone know " where" the installer pulls information from for the network name of the machine during setup? I thought I'd properly cleared a hard drive but when I try to reinstall to it, the installer knows my previous machine name.
[22:05] <Hillshum> I have lost my networking outside of my system
[22:06] <raboof> ion3 and the gnome panel don't work together that well - are there any other panel applications that provide the menus usually found in the gnome-panel ?
[22:06] <Hillshum> I can still connect to localhost but no more
[22:06] <bennenat> mustangg, zomg its hax. >.>
[22:06] <ltgg> titan8990: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116608/
[22:07] <mustangg> bennenat - s' funny.. but I did try a _few_ things before I came online on my second pc ;)
[22:08] <_dbd_l12> ltgg: look here - http://techxplorer.com/2006/05/21/resolving-an-odd-dpkg-error-in-ubuntu/
[22:08] <tyronep> hi i tried getting help at #kubuntu but no one answered me can anyone help me get flash working with Konqueror
[22:09] <ltgg> _dbd_: thanks for the link
[22:10] <bennenat> mustangg, are you dual booting with windows?
[22:11] <d0wn> How can I chmod read permissions to the nobody user for ~/Music/
[22:11] <mustangg> bennenat - heck no, this was my first year win-free. My problem only started after I started a littled playing with LVM on fakeraid. .
[22:12] <Ethos> hi guys, what's the easier way to share a folder on ubuntu server via terminal :)
[22:12] <Ethos> easiest*
[22:13] <drash> tyronep: been a while since i used konqueror, but there used to be a "Settings > Configure > Plugins" pref .. that has a "Scan" tab --> "Scan for new plugins"
[22:13] <oCean_> d0wn: your Music folder is owned by user nobody?
[22:14] <tyronep> drash: thanks
[22:14] <d0wn> oCean_: no, my mt-daapd runs as nobody, and doesn't have read permissions to read my mp3's
[22:14] <d0wn> oCean_: could I make a group specifically for mt-daapd, and make the ~/Music/ folder have read permissions for that group?
[22:15] <bz0b> hey guys how would i mount a usb hard drive in ubuntu
[22:15] <EdwardIII> hey
[22:15] <wahnfrieden> hi
[22:16] <wahnfrieden> I heard that someone replaced their car's computer OS with ubuntu?
[22:16] <EdwardIII> how can i find out which package provides 'ktoolbar' using apt?
[22:16] <sanguisdex> bz0b:  plug it in
[22:16] <wahnfrieden> how can I do this
[22:16] <bz0b> its a usb to sata/ide cable that i hooked up to a hard drive
[22:16] <guckle> how do iupgrade to ubuntu 9 ?
[22:16] <wahnfrieden> Thom Yorke?
[22:16] <bz0b> sanguisdex, i did but im trying the mount command, and it wont mount /dev/sdb to a folder
[22:16] <wahnfrieden> that you
[22:17] <oCean_> d0wn: well, by default there are read rights for all users (chmod 755) on /home/myuser and subfolders
[22:17] <Hillshum> its only in alpha now
[22:17] <bz0b> sanguisdex, i thought about it and its right it wont work cause its like mount the whole device not just /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb2
[22:17] <oCean_> d0wn: you can tell by "ls -ald /home/mydir/Music" has "drwx-r-xr-x"
[22:18] <Hillshum> guckle, it's only in alpha now
[22:18] <wahnfrieden> alpha is good enough for devs - it's good enough for you
[22:18] <d0wn> mine has drwxr-xr-x
[22:18] <Hillshum> guckle, here's the latest if you really want it http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-4/
[22:19] <oCean_> d0wn: indeed. That means readable for the owner (you) the group, and all others (like nobody)
[22:19] <estaban> Hello all
[22:19] <bz0b> i see it in the /var/log/messages
[22:19] <Taure> Right
[22:19] <Taure> I need help
[22:20] <Taure> <_<
[22:20] <Taure> I'm a complete noob
[22:20] <Taure> And am setting up an ubuntu/vista dual boot with vista already installed
[22:20] <Hillshum> Taure, ask your question then
[22:20] <Taure> I've installed ubuntu
[22:20] <Taure> And that worked fine
[22:20] <Taure> But when the computer restarted, it just loaded vista
[22:20] <estaban> Add the partition to grub
[22:20] <starchypizza> I just installed ubunutu will having windows
[22:20] <oCean_> !grub | Taure
[22:20] <Taure> So I tried to use easybcd to add a boot menu ubuntu option
[22:20] <starchypizza> and it automatically added it
[22:21] <bz0b> Anyone know how to mount a hard drive that is plugged in via usb cable
[22:21] <azadin> anyone else here had any problems getting dual screens to "un-link" (IE, get them to display different content?) When I uncheck the "mirror screens" box in the resolution settings, it tells me to log out and in, which doesn't do anything.
[22:22] <Hillshum> azadin, try restarting X (Ctr+ALT+backspace)
[22:22] <d0wn> oCean_: it still won't allow my mt-daapd to read the files. hm
[22:22] <azadin> Hillshum: already tried that. didn't do a thing.
[22:22] <oCean_> d0wn: also check the permissions on your /home/myuser
[22:23] <rcshah> Hi all: I'm still pretty much a beginner, and have a question about how I might be able to see a printer connected to a windows machine on my home network
[22:24] <oCean_> d0wn: to check, you could try and 'become' the nobody user "sudo su - nobody" to see if you can access the files
[22:24] <estaban> Does anyone know how to add the 'blank screen' to terminal ? Now my screen stays on all the time. Or any other way to disable the screen.
[22:24] <d0wn> oCean_: wouldn't chmodding all users to my /home/d0wn/ directory compromise my security?
[22:24] <abadenska> hi, I'd like to have gnome interface in two languages for two different users
[22:25] <abadenska> how do I do that ?
[22:25] <Hillshum> How do I mount the HDD from the liveCD?
[22:25] <Taure> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub I tried that already (the bit under Using Vista) and it didn't work
[22:25] <rcshah> Any ideas on how I might see a USB printer attached to a network windows pc?
[22:25] <Taure> I got an error message "cannot load from harddisk. Inster systemdisk and hit any key"
[22:25] <Taure> insert*
[22:26] <estaban> Hillshum: mkdir /mnt/hdd  then mount -t <filesystem> /mnt/hdd
[22:26] <xfxx> Compiz is drawing window decorations, but without the close, minimize, and maximize buttons.  Any idea how to get the buttons back?
[22:26] <Hillshum> what /dev entry is it
[22:26] <Hillshum> ?
[22:26] <imdeveloper> can anybody help me install QT Creator
[22:26] <_theradar> dual head monitors -->  xrandr ftw
[22:27] <starchypizza> anyone know of any good ubunutu themes?
[22:27] <oCean_> d0wn: there is a difference between chmod (permissions) and chown (ownership). Keep in mind default settings are for (ubuntu) desktop environment. In a server environment, this might differ (not sure, have no ubuntu-server running)
[22:27] <wolter> hi
[22:27] <wolter> about how much voltage should my computer consume while its sleeping?
[22:28] <estaban> wolter: That depends on your computer
[22:28] <wahnfrieden> how can i replace my car navigation system with UBUNTU?
[22:28] <wolter> estaban, well, core 2 duo, 4gb ram.
[22:28] <DIFH-ice1oot> wolter: always the same voltage of course
[22:29] <wolter> DIFH-ice1oot, the same amount as when one is using the computer, you say?
[22:29] <DIFH-ice1oot> wolter: 220V in europa, 110V in USA/Japan i think
[22:29] <Hillshum> wolter,  the wattage might change
[22:29] <hyperbuddha> I think if your comp is sleeping power usage is supossed to be loer
[22:29] <drash> wolter: http://www.lesswatts.org/ might have some info on that
[22:29] <hyperbuddha> thats the whole point
[22:30] <DIFH-ice1oot> wolter: you mean W and not V
[22:30] <Hillshum> estaban, where in /dev is my HDD?
[22:30] <estaban> wolter: http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/howmuch.html
[22:30] <DIFH-ice1oot> Hillshum: sda
[22:30] <horroreyes> does anyone know if I can programm in "D" with eclipse? I tried to google it, but it's difficult to google "D"...
[22:30] <itch_> Hello guys. I have a verry annoing problem: i`m using a pppeo connection and every 20 minutes (or so) i get disconnect and i have to reconnect. This is what my syslog looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116612/ . Can somebody please take a look and maybe tell me why i`m having this trouble? Thanks !
[22:31] <estaban> Hillshum: sudo fdisk -l
[22:31] <wolter> well, about how much more efficient should my computer manage battery power?
[22:31] <wahnfrieden> horroreyes: WHAT
[22:31] <estaban> horroreyes: code like hardcore in vi
[22:32] <horroreyes> You know eclipse? there is a quite new programmintlanguage named D, inherits from C -> C++ -> C# -> D
[22:32] <v|nc3> hi
[22:32] <v|nc3> how can i remove apache
[22:32] <_dbd_l12> horroreyes: short answer: yes see http://www.wikiservice.at/d/wiki.cgi?EditorSupport
[22:32] <wolter> v|nc3, sudo apt-get remove apache*
[22:32] <DIFH-ice1oot> horroreyes: its not ubuntu-related, maybe you lok at eclipse.org or search for a eclipse plugin
[22:32] <jonkenny007> can anyone help me with a problem with Listen?
[22:32] <DIFH-ice1oot> v|nc3: sudo apt-get remove apache2
[22:32] <horroreyes> ok thanks
[22:32] <genii> v|nc3: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[22:33] <oCean_> estaban: System > Admin > Printing will get the printer-setup started. Choose from menu Server > Printer > New .. at that point I think you can browse shared windows printers (via samba)
[22:33] <estaban> http://linux.about.com/od/ttl_howto/a/hwtttl14t17.htm      << That 'program' described here, where can I find it? It's not 'working' on my ubuntu server.
[22:33] <imdeveloper> HELP!!! i have installed QT tools but i dont have QT Creator
[22:33] <imdeveloper> can anyone tell me how to install
[22:33] <estaban> oCean_: wrong guy, i didnt ask for printer help =)
[22:33] <imdeveloper> ?
[22:33] <codevirtue> hello
[22:33] <oCean_> estaban: indeed, i just saw that
[22:34] <estaban> oCean_: no worries
[22:34] <oCean_> estaban: I don't know who that was :/
[22:34] <wolter> hi, which is the evolution irc?
[22:34] <jonkenny007> my music library is over a network storage and when i startup "listen" it takes about 5-10 min to load the library.. is there anyway to solve the wait?
[22:34] <v|nc3> thanks
[22:34] <estaban> jonkenny007: get faster hardware
[22:34] <myke40sp> hy
[22:35] <oCean_> estaban: hm, he/she's gone. So much for that :)
[22:35] <wolter> or, does somebody know about any tweak i could do to evolution so it adds contacts to whom I send emails with the name? i.e: John Smith <jsmith@mail.com>
[22:35] <[[thufir]]> how do you install the rome jar?  manually download or through apt-get?
[22:35] <jonkenny007> i have 1.66 duo
[22:35] <jonkenny007> with 1g ram
[22:35] <estaban> oCean_: People do not have patience.
[22:35] <Dreamglider> while rotating the "cube" in compiz i got this popup "A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session or you mys have just clicked a menu or some application just decided to get focus" is this someting i should be  worried about ?
[22:35] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper: sudo apt-get install qt4-designer
[22:35] <jonkenny007> rythmbox loads up pretty quickly
[22:36] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper: there could be some qt dev packages too, but i think the above will install them as dependencies
[22:36] <drash> jonkenny007: estebans advice, or try mpd with a frontend, it scales amazingly well imho
[22:36] <Gnea> jonkenny007: are you using only rythmbox?
[22:36] <estaban> jonkenny007: It's probably samba then
[22:36] <musictoto> hi. how do i ADD a newly installed network (LAN) interface to my system using command line ?
[22:36] <jonkenny007> rythmbox loads up instatnly .. listen takes forever
[22:36] <jonkenny007> i installed samba too
[22:36] <jonkenny007> no change
[22:37] <azertyuio> hi there
[22:37] <estaban> jonkenny007: thats the thing, samba is not the fastest protocol around.
[22:37] <jonkenny007> should i change to somehting else?
[22:37] <azertyuio> i just install ubuntu 8.10 on my amd 64 bit processor
[22:37] <jonkenny007> what would u guys recomment
[22:37] <mcscruff> lo all, im using the ath5k driver but it always defaults to Bit Rate=1mb/s how can i default this to 54
[22:37] <imdeveloper> _dbd_l12:
[22:37] <_dbd_l12> jonkenny007: i've had good experience with gmusicbrowser -> fast and flexible
[22:37] <imdeveloper> i need creator
[22:37] <estaban> jonkenny007: Hmm, dont know i usually use the last.fm player and im good =)
[22:38] <Gnea> jonkenny007: you might want to check out #samba, as there are ways to improve network performance with it
[22:38] <imdeveloper> i have install QT Disigner
[22:38] <jonkenny007> awsome thanks guys
[22:38] <Gnea> jonkenny007: you might also want to try audacious
[22:38] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper: well download the (prob. linux 32 bit) version from http://www.qtsoftware.com/developer/qt-creator/qt-creator#qt-creator-binary-packages
[22:39] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper: save it somewhere (for example, your desktop), go to a terminal: type "cd ~/Desktop"
[22:40] <imdeveloper> _dbd_l12: im downloading
[22:40] <Arediculuslylong> Is it possible to get a quick question ansered here or should I try the forums?
[22:40] <pike_> Arediculuslylong: best bet is to just ask. if its really specifc forums are sometimes better
[22:41] <genii> Arediculuslylong: How will we know until the question is posed?
[22:41] <Arediculuslylong> good point lol
[22:41] <Arediculuslylong> anyway
[22:41] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper: after that, do "sudo chmod + x qtcreator0.9.2........bin" (press tab for autocompletion of the filename if you have entered some letters)
[22:41] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper after that : type "./qtcreator0.9.2....bin" should start the install script
[22:41] <Arediculuslylong> the question I have is I currently am running a dual boot of ubuntu and windows, and I could like the add DSL as the third boot option, is it possible to do this simply without using another CD, as I am out at the moment?
[22:42] <imdeveloper> ill try
[22:42] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper: you'll also need to "sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev" if you have not installed it already
[22:42] <musictoto> never mind my question i got it solved
[22:42] <genii> Arediculuslylong: You can use debbootstrap method, there is much about it online. You'd need the DSL version of the tutorial
[22:43] <imdeveloper> i have installed libqt4
[22:45] <Arediculuslylong> can you give me a link, as I googled it but I am not sure whether or not I got the right thing
[22:45] <imdeveloper> sudo chmod + x qtcreator-0.9.2-rc1-linux-x86-setup.bin
[22:45] <imdeveloper> x
[22:45] <estaban> Any chance on disabling the screen on a macbook using ubuntu (terminal).
[22:45] <imdeveloper> no such file or directory
[22:45] <Enissay> How can i install the latest version of firefox 3.0.6?
[22:45] <imdeveloper> where i have to install
[22:45] <imdeveloper> ?
[22:45] <estaban> My Fn button does not seem to work.
[22:45] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper: change to the location where you saved the file
[22:46] <_dbd_l12> for example if it is your desktop: type "cd ~/Desktop"
[22:46] <_dbd_l12> first
[22:46] <hyperbuddha> can anyone here explain to me the tarball process right now i have ubuntu server running on a imac and i want to move it to an olpc will this work
[22:46] <imdeveloper> yeah its in the desctop
[22:46] <Enissay> How can i install the latest version of firefox 3.0.6? (it's a .tar.bz2 file)
[22:46] <imdeveloper> desktop
[22:47] <estaban> Enissay: extract the file, then compile it.
[22:47] <_dbd_l12> imdeveloper: do you see the file when you type "ls" in the terminal
[22:47] <imdeveloper> i see the file on my desktop
[22:47] <mustangg> can anyone suggest a simple method to clear whatever data is put on a hd when fakeraid and lvm were in use? Not just a " dd the drive" but close it ok. :)
[22:48] <azertyuio> hi
[22:48] <azertyuio> i just install ubuntu 8.10
[22:48] <Arediculuslylong> Enissay: you could upgrade by going to System, Administration, Upgrade Manager
[22:48] <oCean_> Enissay: 3.0.6. will be in the repos after testing..
[22:48] <toastedmilk> Using Intrepid, loaded update manager and scanned for new updates, got this: NO_PUBKEY 2BA7BC59D745C5EB.
[22:48] <Enissay> oCean_, when?
[22:48] <Dreamglider> i used the proxy at school to update ubuntu some days ago, i have disabled the proxy in network proxy but still i cannot update becaus ISASRV 8080 proxyserver is not found
[22:49] <azertyuio> i just install ntrconnect too when i try to connect to my pc from my browser from ntrconnect i got this error : " REMOTE CONTROL OPTION NOT AVAILABLE UNDER LINUX OS "
[22:49] <hyperbuddha> can anyone here explain to me the tarball process right now i have ubuntu server running on a imac and i want to move it to an olpc will this work
[22:49] <oCean_> Enissay: after testing... that' all
[22:49] <azertyuio> can anyone help plz
[22:49] <africaman> hi
[22:49] <csunew> hello
[22:50] <drash> toastedmilk: probably the result of ppa launchpad repo's in your system not having a gpg key installed .. easily fixed though --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1054906.html
[22:50] <africaman> hi all
[22:50] <Arediculuslylong> can anyone give me a walk through for the debbootstrap method mentioned earlier?
[22:50] <azertyuio> hello
[22:50] <hatter243> !hi | africaman
[22:50] <azertyuio> no one hellp
[22:50] <azertyuio> i just install ntrconnect too when i try to connect to my pc from my browser from ntrconnect i got this error : " REMOTE CONTROL OPTION NOT AVAILABLE UNDER LINUX OS "
[22:50] <azertyuio> ^
[22:50] <azertyuio> ^^^^
[22:51] <africaman> i want to use the evolution mail on my ubuntu but it will not just work
[22:51] <csunew> =.=
[22:51] <toastedmilk> drash, thanks!
[22:51] <flexo> hi, what's the address pool ubuntu assigns ip addresses from when no dhcpd is found?
[22:51] <Enissay> oCean_, hope that will not take too much time.... thanks
[22:51] <SEVILLA> HEY if i have ufw and firestarter both enabled their going to conflict right???
[22:51] <drash> toastedmilk: you're welcome, this bit me a few days ago, the proposed procedure does work just fine
[22:52] <hatter243> flexo, without dhcp or a static ip address assigned, there is no IP address that ubuntu chooses
[22:52] <pike_> SEVILLA: i guess whichever runs last wins in that case
[22:52] <oCean_> africaman: be more specific please. What does not work?
[22:52] <flexo> hatter243: yes there is.
[22:53] <wolter> oh
[22:53] <Jockeo> I have entered a network share in samba (using "Places" -> "Network"). Afterwards the content in the share was changed, but on my computer the change is not updated when clicking "Reload". How can see the new folders?
[22:53] <SEVILLA> how do i disable firestarter completely so i can enable UFW
[22:53] <africaman> i want to know the best server type to choose and the server name
[22:54] <mgolisch> flexo: 169.254.0.0/16 probably if avahi is installed
[22:54] <PleXuS> hi all, anyone did ever try to use a suse made mdadm raid device to load into ubuntu mdadm ? seems to fail s
[22:54] <foolz> I am trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10, and it is giving me an "Error during update" message with a list of "Failed to fetch (address) 404 not found" messages... I was having this problem trying to get regular updates for feisty, and was told to upgrade since Feisty is not supported, but then this is the same problem... anyone know what is going on here?
[22:54] <flexo> alright, thanks
[22:54] <Jockeo> By "network share in samba" I mean "a folder shared through samba".
[22:54] <hatter243> SEVILLA, apt-get purge firestarter
[22:54] <jimcooncat> africaman: you have an email account on the internet now, or do you need one?
[22:54] <oCean_> africaman: well, the service/provider were your email is, should provide those details
[22:54] <selig5> How do set as static IP address on a LAN?
[22:54] <africaman> i have one
[22:54] <hyperbuddha> high are any of you olpc users
[22:55] <africaman> like my isp
[22:55] <oCean_> africaman: if you have a gmail account (for example) they will specify the server/port name and (encryption)protocols etc
[22:55] <africaman> jimcoont i do have one
[22:56] <jimcooncat> africaman: your isp's support is the first place to try, just hope they don't say, "Open up Outlook Express".
[22:56] <africaman> but i do not know the server/port name
[22:56] <africaman> can u pls help
[22:56] <oCean_> africaman: ask your isp for those details
[22:56] <africaman> with yahoo msn and gmail
[22:57] <jimcooncat> I can try to look it up. What does your email address end with, after the @ sign?
[22:57] <kane77> africaman, http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-set-up-gmail-in-evolution-gnomes-mail-client-and-organizer/
[22:58] <oCean_> africaman: yes, that is possible. Go to the gmail site login, go to settings and see tab "forwarding" Also see http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=75725
[22:58] <imdeveloper> Ubuntu community Rules :)
[22:59] <Ethos> do I need to install samba in ubuntu server to share a folder?
[22:59] <africaman> u want me to ask for the server/port name from my isp
[22:59] <berlocnik> somevan help me,how I add icons in AWN
[23:00] <SEVILLA> hater243: how did you highlight your name like that
[23:00] <rdw200169> Ethos, yes, there is an easy way to do that, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba, check 'Server Configuration', and follow the instructions for 8.04 and up
[23:00] <slacker_nl> someone called?
[23:00] <berlocnik> yes
[23:00] <hackel_> I'm trying to setup an OpenVPN connection with Network Manager using a static key, but whenever I enter a local IP address, it forgets it as soon as I hit OK.  Any ideas?
[23:01] <jimcooncat> africaman, yes, ask the isp
[23:01] <Ethos> wow, looks complicated for just sharing a folder!
[23:02] <hackel_> Ethos, it's not complicated for someone who is *running* a server.  Sharing on an Ubuntu desktop has become ridiculously simple lately.
[23:02] <ian[1]> I'm wanting to find some information about streaming video from a TV tuner in an Ubuntu 8.10 server box.. Can someone point me in the direction where I might find some info?
[23:02] <KenBW2> i found a way to transmit my internet connection wirelessly but no i cant find it. Can anyone help?
[23:02] <ra> I get error  "bonobo-activation-server (akrohit-1261): could not associate with desktop session:" in the /var/log/messages
[23:02] <Ethos> I'm running an ubuntu server (no gui) and that guide just confuses me
[23:02] <Ethos> tbh
[23:03] <_dbd_l12> a whole lot of people running server editions lately
[23:03] <SEVILLA> nm
[23:04] <Ethos> _dbd_l12: cause it's fairly easy to setup for a linx novice like me
[23:04] <_dbd_l12> ian[1]: there's darwin streaming server (dss - from apple) which can fulfill your streaming needs without a gui (it has a webinterface) and some simple xml config files. But how you feed your video into dss depends on your card
[23:05] <ian[1]> _dbd_l12: thanks for the info. I'll look into that and see what card works best before I buy one.
[23:05] <ian[1]> Thanks again!
[23:05] <foolz> I am trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 but I get an "Error during update" message that has multiple lines below it stating "failed to fetch (web address) 404 not found" ... does anyone know why this would be happening if I am otherwise able to use the internet and just successfully downloaded a program with Synaptic package manager?
[23:05] <mrs> Can anybody tell me, I keep getting a connection refused every time I try sudo apt-get update?
[23:06] <_dbd_l12> ian[1]: you'll have to transcode your video with ffmpeg or otherwise into something dss can understand. If you still can choose the card you probably have less complex options...
[23:06] <berlocnik> somevan help me pleas
[23:06] <koH1> Hello everyone
[23:06] <koH1> this isnt apart of freenode is it?
[23:06] <foolz> should I be adding something to my sources.list file or something where gutsy gibbon files are located? is that why it's not finding it?
[23:07] <ian[1]> dbd_l12: thanks again for the info!
[23:07] <redvamp128> foolz:  have you seen this post -- First Impressions of Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop Edition <http://www.devx.com/opensource/Article/36289/0/page/2>
[23:07] <_dbd_l12> berlocnik: http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=FAQ
[23:08] <berlocnik> somevan tell me how to add icons in AWN
[23:08] <berlocnik> pleas
[23:08] <KenBW2> i found a way to transmit my internet connection wirelessly but no i cant find it. Can anyone help?
[23:08] <zer0o> hi guys du no if theres any support channel for distro "xandros"?
[23:09] <azertyuio> REMOTE CONTROL OPTION NOT AVAILABLE UNDER LINUX OS
[23:09] <azertyuio> i got this error when i try to connect to my pc with ntrconnect
[23:09] <_dbd_l12> zer0o: #xandros (on freenode)
[23:09] <azertyuio> what to do ?
[23:09] <azertyuio> zzzlp
[23:09] <KenBW2> azertyuio: dont talk crap
[23:09] <zer0o> _dbd_l12: thanks dude
[23:10] <hackel_> azertyuio, no one will help you with that attitude.  Looks like some crap proprietary software that we can't help you with.  Go ask for support from NTRconnect.
[23:10] <mrs> Can anybody help? http://pastebin.com/m6e2c76ab
[23:10] <adante> hi guys anybody use lvm?
[23:11] <azertyuio> what that mean crap software ?
[23:11] <hackel_> azertyuio, NOT open source.
[23:11] <DIFH-ice1oot> !anyone | adante
[23:11] <zer0o> _dbd_l12: hey there's no-one there! sure is the official support channel?
[23:11] <foolz> redvamp128, when I do sudo apt-get update, some lines seem to work, but then I get the same messages at some points: "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
[23:11] <foolz>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]"  as an example
[23:11] <RussellA> Any Ubuntu <b>Studio'ers</b> in here?
[23:11] <Wizzup> try *Studioers*
[23:12] <azertyuio> is there any that kind of software
[23:12] <jeancalvin> in terminal, how do i remove files that are no longer in use/required??? THanks
[23:12] <hackel_> azertyuio, Ubuntu has a built-in remote-access solution based on  VNC, look into that.
[23:12] <azertyuio> opensource of course ?
[23:12] <adante> i've created some lvm partitions and stuff, i'm wondering will ubuntu automatically restore these on reboot or do i have to do this myself? (this is for the lvm partitions only, i can enter the fs mounts itself in fstab)
[23:12] <DIFH-ice1oot> !anyone | RussellA
[23:12] <azertyuio> i want webaccess
[23:12] <azertyuio> from my work
[23:12] <azertyuio> is it possible ?
[23:12] <pascal> I'm experience drop-outs of my wifi that I'm not experiencing when using windows. Is there some sort of powersave function I can disable?
[23:12] <_dbd_l12> zer0o: i thought it was (last time i checked)
[23:12] <azertyuio> like doing with ntrconnect right not with other OS
[23:12] <zer0o> _dbd_l12: it says it was created like 2 weeks ago
[23:12] <azertyuio> like doing with ntrconnect right nowwith other OS
[23:13] <zer0o> _dbd_l12: it cant be
[23:13] <_dbd_l12> zer0o: strange, let me check
[23:13] <RussellA> Wizzup:  I was going to be proper ;-)
[23:13] <hackel_> azertyuio, anything is possible.  I have no idea what this propreitary NTRconnect does, I glanced at their webpage for 5 seconds and I am not willing to look at it further.
[23:13] <liquid> pascal what version of ubuntu r u using?
[23:13] <pascal> 8.10
[23:13] <redvamp128> azertyuio:  Though looks like they have all the info you need-- also an email here at this page -- NTRconnect - Easy-to-use remote access and remote control for PCs and Macs <https://www.ntrconnect.com/web/support.asp?r=0.24715403076903974&amp;lm=8>
[23:13] <hackel_> azertyuio, you probably want to use OpenVPN or a simple SSH dynamic proxy.
[23:13] <liquid> yes i have had the same problem using wpa2
[23:14] <_dbd_l12> zer0o: well, these forum instructions (from 2003) seems to indicate this was correct. maybe they changed recently (http://forums.xandros.com/viewtopic.php?t=2465)
[23:14] <redvamp128> azertyuio:  here is their web support page- https://www.ntrconnect.com/web/support.asp?r=0.24715403076903974&lm=8
[23:14] <liquid> ujnfortunately the only solution i found was to install 8.04 which is not much of a solution
[23:14] <pascal> liquid: did you find any solution?
[23:14] <pascal> heh
[23:14] <azertyuio> thx redvamp128
[23:15] <azertyuio> yes i want to know openvpn and ssh
[23:15] <azertyuio> how that it work ?
[23:15] <zer0o> _dbd_l12: it seems ur right mate, but it is definitely not the support channel
[23:15] <RussellA> Well I'd like to find a really helpful place, or person to help me get JACK control and Ardour running well... My WIndows machine is just not cutting it, plus, were all in here because we are diverse
[23:15] <liquid> how do i respond to individual messages?
[23:15] <azertyuio> hackel_:
[23:15] <redvamp128> azertyuio:  It looks like a paid service- where they are the go between via a website.
[23:16] <_dbd_l12> azertyuio: tunnel x over ssh (install ssh-server on ubuntu box), use putty and xming on windows
[23:16] <_dbd_l12> azertyuio: some vnc variant ... lots of options
[23:17] <liquid> pascal im new to to this chat experience so im new to the commands that allow me to respond to your message...srry about that
[23:17] <azertyuio> at my work i don't access to install third party software
[23:17] <hackel_> azertyuio, System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[23:17] <azertyuio> so can't install putty
[23:17] <erUSUL> !who | liquid
[23:17] <guckle> 2 hours to upgrade to 8.10 omgggg
[23:17] <guckle> thats after dl'ing all the updates
[23:17] <azertyuio> that's why i wwant an web access solution
[23:17] <liquid> ty
[23:18] <guckle> i guess u cant go 8.07 ---> 9.x ?
[23:18] <liquid> !pascal | liquid test
[23:18] <azertyuio> like  logmein, ntrconnect citrix gotoassist etc.......
[23:18] <hackel_> azertyuio, VNC includes a java-based client which you can access with a web browser.  Not sure if the built-in Remote Desktop includes it, though.
[23:18] <liquid> !pascal test
[23:18] <azertyuio> which website ?
[23:18] <hackel_> azertyuio, those are all proprietary closed-source solutions, not for use in the real world.
[23:18] <liquid> trying to figure out how to respond srry...i should google
[23:19] <redvamp128> !ask > liquid:
[23:19] <pascal> liquid: hehe. Do you have any idea about what has changed that has given these problems?
[23:20] <trippss> is there a way compiz and other eye candy can behave intelligently? e.g., when my load average is above 5, I don't need it to spend 10 minutes and thrash the swap trying to give me a window transition
[23:20] <liquid> !ask > liquid
[23:20] <RussellA> anyone know a command to upgrade to 4.2 kde? I have 4.1
[23:20] <liquid> yes ubottu i got it but my tries are not working...chat newb
[23:21] <constantine> I heard on here that wine is not good because you don't learn ubuntu very well that way....so what is the best place to get started?
[23:21] <azertyuio> what are the reason ?
[23:21] <redvamp128> liquid:  I figured since you wanted to pick ubutto's brain would be easier in a pm -- just dont' know why it didn't work when I tried it.
[23:21] <crazz> Hola hola puedo hacer una pregunta
[23:22] <liquid> for instance, what does !tab mean
[23:22] <azertyuio> why can't be used in a real world ?
[23:22] <foolz> If I have lines such as "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse" in my sources.list, but have also added "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse", should I be commenting out the former? it seems like my sources.list is what is causing me to be unable to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[23:22] <erUSUL> !es | crazz
[23:22] <redvamp128> !es | crazz
[23:22] <erUSUL> liquid: you can use your tab key to autocomplete nicknames
[23:22] <zu22> i want to be able to download more packages than just the default, what can i add to my sources.list? right now it just has "deb http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ etch main"
[23:22] <zu22> i want to get all types of packages not just 'main'
[23:23] <erUSUL> liquid: e.g i type "li" then hit tab and my chat client autocompletes yourname for me
[23:23] <hackel_> azertyuio, I'm just giving you a hard time.  I don't like these companies, I feel they are trying to take advantage of you, because the services they provide are readily available using open source software.  They really cater to Windows users.
[23:23] <erUSUL> liquid: that's how we address each other around here ... we just type the name in fron of what we are saying
[23:23] <liquid> pascal, test
[23:23] <drash> trippss: you could try to cook up something using the compiz dbus scripting interface i suppose, have you seen http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=7359 yet ?
[23:24] <liquid> tab completion works :)  now how to pm?
[23:24] <azertyuio> yes i m totally agree with you
[23:24] <erUSUL> liquid: "/msg nick message" but...
[23:24] <trippss> drash, sure haven't I'll take a look see
[23:24] <redvamp128> azertyuio:  Though that first company you asked about appears to be a Paid Service.
[23:24] <erUSUL> !pn | liquid
[23:24] <liquid> ty erUSUL :)
[23:24] <erUSUL> !pm | liquid
[23:25] <azertyuio> the probleme is there is no open source software on web based solution
[23:25] <azertyuio> doing the same thing
[23:25] <azertyuio> same kind of service
[23:25] <drash> trippss: i used it succesfully so can confirm it works, if you can get the logic translated into those compiz commands, i'd guess the compiz forum has more info, goodluck
[23:26] <azertyuio> so of course ppl are ready to pay for the service
[23:26] <Wizzup> Quick question. I am install Ubuntu now. I am using the manual way to setup my disks. I want to resize a disk and merge it with another one. Resizing means no info loss as long as I don't make it smaller than the data on it (plus like 20gb, right?)
[23:26] <Wizzup> installing*
[23:26] <azertyuio> so of course ppl are ready to pay for the service
[23:26] <ltgg> weird dpkg problem: will not run. see ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/116608/   tried this: http://techxplorer.com/2006/05/21/resolving-an-odd-dpkg-error-in-ubuntu/   got this result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116620/
[23:26] <estaban> For anyone who is interested: When running ubuntu server (LTS) on a apple machine (like iMac or macbook(pro) ) you can disable the screen by using 'pommed'. Use sudo apt-get install pommed for this. This enables you to use the FN+key's on a intel macintosh machine.
[23:26] <trippss> drash, cool thanks! It would be nice to incorporate that into the base especially for laptops and machines with less than GB RAM
[23:27] <estaban> You can even use the fn+key in terminal
[23:27] <redvamp128> azertyuio:  though they do have "free" version but limits are only 2 computers -- THe computer you want to access and the one you want to access it from-- one way only :
[23:27] <drash> trippss: exactly, it took months before i accidentally discovered this was at all possible
[23:27] <liquid> so for the chat newbs here <me>, to pm someone, ir respond or what not we use /msg <name> <text>.  Is this correct?
[23:27] <ltgg> then tried to remove package gxine and got this result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116619/
[23:28] <ltgg> anyone know what might be going on?
[23:28] <pike__> liquid: yep
[23:28] <azertyuio> ok thx for all those information
[23:28] <azertyuio> thx a lot
[23:28] <azertyuio> times up here
[23:29] <azertyuio> bye
[23:29] <azertyuio> thx to all
[23:29] <azertyuio> bye
[23:30] <BoomShaka> Hi. can some1 tell me how I can output an environment variable in ubuntu? e.,g. PYTHONPATH   (as an aside, what are these types of variables called in linux) ?
[23:31] <nickrud_> BoomShaka,   echo $PYTHONPATH
[23:31] <BoomShaka> nickrud: thanks
[23:32] <nickrud_> BoomShaka, and they're called exactly that, environment variables
[23:32] <BoomShaka> ty
[23:32] <nickrud_> BoomShaka,   env | sort  is useful for a quick examination
[23:33] <Wizzup> Ok so basically, my Ubuntu installer says it is resizing my partition, but it has been at 0% for 15 minutes now, and the CD isn't actively spinning either.
[23:33] <gustavo_> how can edit my boot secuencie
[23:33] <gustavo_> to start from cd rom
[23:33] <Wizzup> (Would it at some point be an idea to kill the install / partitioner?)
[23:33] <^hashbang^> Wizzup: how big is your harddrive
[23:33] <mohamed> bonsoir
[23:33] <pike__> Wizzup: it can sometimes help to do a defrag etc in windows first ive heard (never resized myself)
[23:33] <Wizzup> ^hashbang^: quite big. I am resizing 240gb to 120gb
[23:34] <^hashbang^> Wizzup: yea I have a 250gb, took me 3 hours
[23:34] <Wizzup> pike__: It is indeed ntfs, although it's not fragged alot I think
[23:34] <nDevastator> anyone know what the default root password is on the 7.10 install CD
[23:34] <mohamed> sa n'a pas l'air de parler français ici
[23:34] <nickrud_> Wizzup, might as well get some sleep
[23:34] <qcjn> since i have kde desktop, to stop the computer, when i'm under gnome, i have to restart xwindow, then i get to the opening prompt, and then i can close it from there ???
[23:34] <nickrud_> !fr | qcjn
[23:34] <Wizzup> Indeed, I was going to stay up, lol
[23:34] <Wizzup> Alright.
[23:34] <nickrud_> !fr | mohamed (sorry qcjn)
[23:34] <mohamed> ok
[23:34] <Wizzup> Spinning CD-Disks aren't that nice when trying to sleep generally
[23:34] <mohamed> I'm sorry :)
[23:35] <nickrud_> mohamed, don't worry about it. If the factoid makes you feel bad about not knowing this is the english channel, it's the factoid's fault
[23:36] <nickrud_> qcjn, you should be able to stop the computer from the login screen
[23:37] <constantine> what is a piece of software that has wireless details such as SSID, signal strenth, time lapse, etc?
[23:37] <qcjn> excuse me i should have sid,;then i get to the login screen, and then i can close it from there ???
[23:38] <qcjn> but when , from gnome, i deconnect, cause thats all i got..it goes into a black screen
[23:39] <daha> is there something known going on with the canadian repository mirrors? most of them aren't working anymore
[23:39] <Wizzup> If it get's to 1% I'll go to sleep
[23:40] <nDevastator> why cant i create a folder im booted in 7.10
[23:40] <nDevastator> im doing sudo mkdir /mnt/windows/
[23:41] <Wizzup> nDevastator: What does it say?
[23:41] <nDevastator> it says cannot create directory
[23:41] <Wizzup> Permission denied?
[23:41] <nDevastator> ya
[23:41] <nDevastator> whats default password
[23:41] <nDevastator> i would think its blank
[23:41] <nDevastator> i didnt set one
[23:41] <FloodBot1> nDevastator: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <nDevastator> i just booted it from CD
[23:41] <Wizzup> on a live CD? or an install
[23:42] <Wizzup> ok
[23:42] <nDevastator> live ced
[23:42] <Wizzup> there is none
[23:42] <nDevastator> i tried blank
[23:42] <Wizzup> The user ubuntu can sudo without pass
[23:42] <Wizzup> (correct me if I am wrong)
[23:42] <nDevastator> ok now it says it exists
[23:42] <^hashbang^> Wizzup: your correct =)
[23:42] <nDevastator> but when i try cd /mnt/windows/ its not there
[23:42] <Wizzup> :)
[23:43] <jman> hey, can i get some with a display issue?  my desktop is unusable, on startup the whole thing is solid dark grey except for the far left where some black lines scroll down really fast.
[23:43] <Wizzup> nDevastator, are you trying to access a previous install?
[23:43] <nDevastator> im trying to get to a windows partition
[23:44] <nDevastator> trying to mkdir so i can mount it to it
[23:44] <^hashbang^> nDevastator: how did you mount your windows partition?
[23:44] <yoyoned> nDevastator: type df -h to see if and where it is moounted
[23:44] <Wizzup> I beleive he has to make a directory before he mounts it
[23:44] <nDevastator> its not mounted yet
[23:44] <^hashbang^> nDevastator: mkdir /mnt/temp
[23:44] <^hashbang^> nDevastator: sudo fdisk -l
[23:44] <nDevastator> it wont let me mkdir ...
[23:44] <Wizzup> nDevastator: if you ls /mnt , is it in there?
[23:45] <^hashbang^> nDevastator: sudo mkdir /mnt/temp
[23:45] <yoyoned> nDevastator: use sudo
[23:45] <zloog> :i Storable
[23:45] <^hashbang^> nDevastator: sudo fdisk -l; get the ntfs partition and then mount /dev/ntfsdisk /mnt/temp
[23:46] <kupesoft> Is there any way to have a server behind NAT *without* port forwarding enabled?
[23:47] <yoyoned> kupesoft: sure, as long as you don't want to access it from the net
[23:47] <kupesoft> yoyoned: I want to access it from the net ;p
[23:47] <yoyoned> kupesoft: why don't you want to use port forwarding
[23:48] <|ns|nR8> could use a vpn that uses nat traversal like hamachi
[23:48] <kupesoft> Yeah, or an tunnel to a server that *could* listen,
[23:48] <Wizzup> Grrr... Still at 0%. I take it this is gparted, btw? (I have never really used gparted, though. So I don't know what it looks like)
[23:51] <Intrepid> I've got some looping noise locking up my audio. How do I get rid of it?
[23:52] <boshhead> Intrepid: fuser -k /dev/snd/*
[23:52] <kupesoft> yoyoned, |ns|nR8: afserver+afclient are what I want
[23:52] <Wizzup> Wow - it's done. It was at 0% all the time though...
[23:52] <Wizzup> :D
[23:52] <Intrepid> boshhead: no success
[23:52] <kupesoft> yoyoned, |ns|nR8: apf-server + apf-client, rather
[23:53] <Intrepid> i have some output from the program that caused the error
[23:53] <Intrepid> http://pastebin.ca/1333265
[23:54] <constantine> if I replace network manager with wicd, will I lose my network card driver and / or connection?
[23:55] <acctflow> hello
[23:55] <lirxis> Hi - upgraded my server from 7.10 to 8.10 today - but that resultet in some problems... First apache2 did not work but that is fixed now :) I can get access to the server through SSH but cant access the shell on the computer locally... And no server app is starting auto. on boot Any ideas how to fix this?
[23:56] <hou5ton> well ... I "think" I've tried different things to get dual monitors working on this laptop ... does someone know of a pretty easy straight forward way to get it done?
[23:56] <Susanne> Hello
[23:58] <ari_stress> morning all, beautiful day :)
[23:58] <nDevastator> ok now when i do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/temp it says does not have a valid ntfs signature
[23:58] <_dbd_l12> constantine: backup the /etc/network/interfaces file to be sure you don't lose your current configuration
[23:58] <Wizzup> hou5ton: Whta is your video card?
[23:58] <hou5ton> Wizzup:   nviddia ... somthing
[23:59] <constantine> ok thanks dbd
[23:59] <Wizzup> nDevastator: You probably don't need -t ntfs
[23:59] <Wizzup> (afaik)
[23:59] <Wizzup> hou5ton: try using nvidia-settings
[23:59] <hou5ton> Wizzup:   and I've installed several things ... but it just isn't working
[23:59] <itsatrick> Okay, so I got Red's Innocence and Instict CD today and tried to play it through Linux.  There's no music: only a Click_me.exe (which displays a full-screen page with links to sites) executable and a few more data or binary files.  How do I make the music play?  Help?
[23:59] <hou5ton> Wizzup:   is that a command to use in a terminal then?