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| vadi2 | I uploaded a package to my ppa, deleted it, and after a while uploaded it again - any reason it should be taking it's time to even appear on the page? | 02:08 |
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| poolie | vadi2: using the same version number? | 02:09 |
| poolie | it's not a good idea | 02:09 |
| poolie | bump the version | 02:09 |
| vadi2 | well, I changed it | 02:09 |
| vadi2 | but I'm not sure if its newer | 02:09 |
| vadi2 | sec | 02:09 |
| vadi2 | 0.1~bzr69-0ubuntu1~ppa11 is old, 0.1~beta-pre1-ppa1 is new | 02:09 |
| vadi2 | (I just made them up really... didn't see a guide on how to make them proper. I'm the upstream myself) | 02:10 |
| poolie | 'bzr' sorts after 'beta' | 02:10 |
| poolie | the new one should maybe be | 02:10 |
| poolie | 0.1.beta~pre1~ppa1 | 02:10 |
| poolie | it's preview release 1 of the beta? | 02:11 |
| vadi2 | right | 02:11 |
| vadi2 | ok, I'll try with 0.1.beta~pre1~ppa1 | 02:11 |
| maxb | vadi2: It should be ~beta, not .beta | 02:15 |
| vadi2 | :( ok. are you sure? | 02:15 |
| vadi2 | didn't seem like lp liked the dot though | 02:15 |
| maxb | vadi2: Well, you want 0.1 to be newer than 0.1 beta, right? | 02:15 |
| vadi2 | not really - I just want it to be bigger than 0.1~bzr69-0ubuntu1~ppa11. after beta, we'll go to 1.0 (as it'll be a finished and usable program) | 02:16 |
| vadi2 | doh | 02:18 |
| maxb | That's a peculiar way to do it - have a series of betas that don't lead up to a final release | 02:18 |
| maxb | What's the upstream version number considered to be? | 02:19 |
| vadi2 | the syntax is "dput file.changes ppa-name"? | 02:19 |
| maxb | other way around | 02:19 |
| vadi2 | maxb: I am part of the upstream. before we had "pre-alpha", now "pre-beta", then "1.0". a bit odd.. | 02:19 |
| maxb | Hm. Well I guess there's nothing wrong with 0.1.beta if you guarantee there will never be an 0.1 final | 02:20 |
| vadi2 | I thought the 0.1 part was necessary for the package to work | 02:21 |
| maxb | huh? | 02:21 |
| vadi2 | I wouldnt've had a problem with naming the package version "pre-alpha~ppa1", I just added 0.1 because I thought the superceding rules wouldn't work otherwise | 02:22 |
| maxb | correct | 02:22 |
| vadi2 | I realized I messed up the dput syntax, that's why it didn't ask for my pass when uploading and didn't show on the lp page | 02:23 |
| vadi2 | that was probably my issue. oops | 02:23 |
| maxb | So, the upstream version is "pre-beta"? That's not a version, it's a description of a phase of development | 02:24 |
| vadi2 | yeah. | 02:24 |
| vadi2 | maxb: it works! | 02:28 |
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| MTecknology | ya | 03:39 |
| Ursinha | hey | 03:41 |
| MTecknology | how ya been? | 03:41 |
| Ursinha | good | 03:41 |
| Ursinha | you? | 03:41 |
| MTecknology | ok | 03:41 |
| Ursinha | :) | 03:41 |
| MTecknology | trying to clean out some bugs | 03:41 |
| MTecknology | even though they're not fixed, they're minor | 03:42 |
| MTecknology | things like incorrect spelling on the website kinda things | 03:42 |
| MTecknology | or Alt+O bound to more than one thing | 03:42 |
| Ursinha | hmm | 03:42 |
| Ursinha | I love fixing minor bugs | 03:43 |
| Ursinha | and clean the pile | 03:43 |
| Ursinha | cleaning | 03:43 |
| Ursinha | must sleep :) | 03:43 |
| MTecknology | I would fix them... but trying to find someone to actually commit a change may be a huge pain | 03:43 |
| MTecknology | especially since I'd be dealing wiht languages I've never seen before | 03:44 |
| Ursinha | true | 03:44 |
| MTecknology | I'm just marking them invalid and saying screw it | 03:44 |
| Ursinha | eww | 03:45 |
| MTecknology | what should I do? | 03:45 |
| Ursinha | nothing | 03:46 |
| Ursinha | it just hurts | 03:46 |
| Ursinha | doesn't it? | 03:46 |
| MTecknology | it's | 03:46 |
| MTecknology | ya | 03:46 |
| MTecknology | it's incredibly painful; | 03:46 |
| Ursinha | :/ | 03:46 |
| Ursinha | I share the pain | 03:46 |
| MTecknology | you ever do the same thing? | 03:47 |
| Ursinha | I try not to do | 03:47 |
| Ursinha | but sometimes it happens | 03:47 |
| MTecknology | some of these have been out here for a year - and still exist | 03:48 |
| Ursinha | for me only a few things are less painful than marking an imperfection as won't fix | 03:48 |
| Ursinha | more painful, I mean | 03:48 |
| Ursinha | I really need to sleep :) | 03:48 |
| MTecknology | I can't set Won't Fix | 03:49 |
| MTecknology | I'm stuck with Invalid | 03:49 |
| Ursinha | MTecknology, I'd leave it there | 03:49 |
| Ursinha | but marking as invalid I don't know | 03:49 |
| Ursinha | don't you have any hope of having someone to fix them? | 03:49 |
| MTecknology | not after this long | 03:49 |
| Ursinha | maybe it's just a matter of bringing it to attention | 03:50 |
| MTecknology | I'll try to | 03:50 |
| Ursinha | :) | 03:50 |
| MTecknology | g'night | 03:50 |
| MTecknology | go away | 03:50 |
| Ursinha | hahahahahaha | 03:50 |
| MTecknology | now! | 03:50 |
| Ursinha | all right! | 03:50 |
| * MTecknology licks | 03:50 | |
| Ursinha | bye :) | 03:50 |
| MTecknology | ttyl | 03:50 |
| Ursinha | good luck | 03:50 |
| MTecknology | ty | 03:51 |
| Ursinha | :) | 03:51 |
| * Ursinha wanders off | 03:51 | |
| MTecknology | Ursinha: ? | 03:51 |
| MTecknology | ok, that's good then | 03:52 |
| MTecknology | hurray, I dropped 28 bugs from my name... | 04:16 |
| tarheelcoxn | hi there. <https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Copying packages> points to <https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive/+copy-packages> | 04:53 |
| tarheelcoxn | but the latter is a broken link | 04:53 |
| tarheelcoxn | can someone please tell me how to import the current mailman source in jaunty to my PPA? | 04:54 |
| mrooney | Hmm, my translation has been in the import queue for 2 or 3 days, is that normal? | 05:34 |
| tarheelcoxn | mrooney: wish I had an answer for you (I'm new-ish to launchpad)... do you happen to know how to copy a jaunty source package to ppa? | 05:50 |
| tarheelcoxn | mrooney: the link from <https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Copying packages> is dead | 05:50 |
| mrooney | nope, sorry! | 05:53 |
| tarheelcoxn | I guess I'll waste bandwidth and pull a local branch, then push back up | 05:53 |
| poolie | hi | 07:24 |
| poolie | how many translators are there on launchpad? | 07:24 |
| thekorn | hi, I'm not sure if someone is intrested in this comment, but this "only show the first 80 comments for a bugreport" is a really bad design IMO | 07:46 |
| thekorn | I'm almost all the time interested in the latest comments, | 07:46 |
| thekorn | so I need to scroll down to the bottom, click the link (and wait) and scroll to the bottom again | 07:46 |
| thekorn | I hope this is not the result of the performance improving efforts ;) | 07:47 |
| tarheelcoxn | thekorn: it keeps people from posting comments that have already been covered | 07:47 |
| tarheelcoxn | thekorn: subscribe to the bug and you'll get the latest comments as they come | 07:47 |
| thekorn | tarheelcoxn, sorry, but how does this prevent people from writing comments that have already been covered? | 07:51 |
| tarheelcoxn | thekorn: they see the comment they were going to post and don't post it | 07:53 |
| tarheelcoxn | put another way, youtube puts most recent comments at the top. | 07:53 |
| thekorn | yeah but youtube is fun, but a bugtracker is about information | 07:55 |
| thekorn | and hiding information is bad | 07:55 |
| tarheelcoxn | it doesn't hide the information | 07:57 |
| tarheelcoxn | the core information you need (the bug's status) is right at the top | 07:57 |
| thekorn | sorry, I don't agree with you here, we ask the affected people for more information, so our 'core information' is in their comments | 07:59 |
| thekorn | speaking as a bug triager | 07:59 |
| tarheelcoxn | so subscribe to the bug? | 08:01 |
| tarheelcoxn | you'll get their comments by mail | 08:01 |
| mthaddon | another way of looking at it is that any bug with more than 80 comments is probably not very useful/digestible anyway | 08:02 |
| thekorn | ok, if this is the reason for this "feature" than launchpad needs a ranking feature for comments, why can't comment 123 be the most important comment for this bugreport | 08:07 |
| mthaddon | I would agree - comment ranking would be a good idea | 08:09 |
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| sm | g'day all.. how do I delete/hide a launchpad project ? | 08:55 |
| lifeless | sm: file a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | 08:57 |
| sm | thanks | 08:58 |
| MTecknology | I've been working on this for a long time and letting it really peel into my sleepy time.... | 09:04 |
| MTecknology | can somebody tell me if this looks good or not? https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal/+spec/7.x-2.1.0 | 09:04 |
| MTecknology | lol - I shoulda waited 1min so mpt caught that too.... | 09:06 |
| MTecknology | mpt: Do you think this looks good? https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal/+spec/7.x-2.1.0 | 09:07 |
| MTecknology | everyone sleeping? | 09:08 |
| mpt | MTecknology, you can register releases for a project from the project's Overview page | 09:09 |
| mpt | Then you can target blueprints representing actual features to release series | 09:09 |
| MTecknology | mpt: I have release series | 09:10 |
| mpt | From the release series you can register a release | 09:10 |
| mpt | (it's a bit hierarchical) | 09:10 |
| MTecknology | so the blueprint is made up right, except it's supposed to be applied to a series instead? | 09:11 |
| MTecknology | mpt: I have release series and each is linked to a branch | 09:11 |
| MTecknology | mpt: what am I doing wrong? | 09:13 |
| mpt | MTecknology, well it's entirely up to you, I'm just wondering why you're using blueprints to represent releases when Launchpad has actual releases built in :-) | 09:13 |
| mpt | e.g. you could have a 2.1.0 release instead of a 2.1.0 blueprint. | 09:14 |
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| MTecknology | mpt: I just liked how I could build it into a nice pretty picture explaining what we need to do to make the releases happen | 09:16 |
| mpt | fair enough | 09:17 |
| mpt | Launchpad should do a better job of that for releases, but doesn't yet | 09:17 |
| MTecknology | mpt: what is the original idea behind blueprints? | 09:18 |
| mpt | Tracking the implementation of features or major changes. | 09:18 |
| MTecknology | so am I close to using it right? | 09:18 |
| mpt | yep | 09:19 |
| MTecknology | :) | 09:19 |
| MTecknology | well - bed time | 09:21 |
| MTecknology | well - launchpad is awesome. | 09:23 |
| MTecknology | thanks everyone for creating it :D | 09:23 |
| MTecknology | g'night all | 09:23 |
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| maxb | When a build gets re-submitted to the buildds, is there any way to see history of previous attempts? | 10:04 |
| maxb | I've noticed a bunch of kde* packages in intrepid backports seemingly building over and over and over again on sparc/hppa/ia64source/watershed/3/+build/771642 | 10:04 |
| maxb | erm, oops, paste failure | 10:05 |
| maxb | I've noticed a bunch of kde* packages in intrepid backports seemingly building over and over and over again on sparc/hppa/ia64 | 10:05 |
| bigjools | maxb: you can see builder history | 10:06 |
| maxb | I'm not convinced that does the job when it's the same build record being retried over and over | 10:08 |
| bigjools | which packages, exactly? | 10:09 |
| bigjools | they can only be retried if they fail | 10:09 |
| maxb | http://paste.ubuntu.com/116751/ - the ones shown pending there | 10:11 |
| maxb | They seem to build, then later I notice that the same package version has shown up as "Needs building" again | 10:12 |
| maxb | but, as you can see from the list, some of those packages on some architectures have settled in a chrootwait/failed state and are staying there | 10:13 |
| bigjools | maxb: if you can find one that went from built to needs building, I would be very interested, otherwise it looks normal | 10:16 |
| maxb | I think the problem is that they're going to depwait, then un-depwaiting even though they still don't have the right deps | 10:17 |
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| soren | I hear rumours every now and then that it's possible for a project to have a PPA. How do I set that up? | 12:53 |
| bigjools | soren: it's not possible. but it's in the pipeline | 12:53 |
| soren | Alright. I'll just create a maintainer team for the project, then. | 12:55 |
| soren | bigjools: Thanks. | 12:55 |
| bigjools | np | 12:55 |
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| sianis | hi there | 14:46 |
| sianis | can it be possible that rosetta ignore my po export requests? | 14:46 |
| henninge | sianis: Only if you requested them on "staging" (translations.staging.launchpad.net). | 14:48 |
| sianis | henninge: no, I don't | 14:49 |
| sianis | but we tries it out | 14:49 |
| sianis | tried | 14:49 |
| sianis | I don't get the po an other account get it | 14:49 |
| henninge | sianis: no, I meant that requests done on staging would be ignored ... ;-) | 14:49 |
| henninge | sianis: ?? | 14:49 |
| sianis | so, we request export with two account | 14:50 |
| sianis | but only one of them get email | 14:50 |
| henninge | sianis: well, it is possible that the emails get held up of filtered out as spam because they contain a link. | 14:51 |
| henninge | s/of/or/ | 14:51 |
| sianis | I requested it again twice | 14:51 |
| sianis | and I use gmail, and Spam is empty | 14:52 |
| henninge | sianis: twice means what? twice in the same place, twice with two different accounts? | 14:52 |
| sianis | twice with same account on launchpad.net | 14:53 |
| sianis | :) | 14:53 |
| henninge | sianis: I this the first time you used either account to request exports? | 14:54 |
| sianis | no I don't | 14:54 |
| sianis | I worked great by now | 14:55 |
| sianis | It | 14:55 |
| henninge | sianis: I was just wondering if the mail got held up by greylisting | 14:55 |
| henninge | sianis: ah, good to hear | 14:55 |
| sianis | but now it don't work | 14:56 |
| sianis | for 2-3 days | 14:56 |
| sianis | maybe I requested to many po? | 14:56 |
| henninge | sianis: but you said that you did get e-mail on the one account today, right? | 14:56 |
| henninge | sianis: no, there is no limit on that. | 14:57 |
| sianis | hmm | 14:57 |
| sianis | I have no idea | 14:57 |
| sianis | can you see my request query ? | 14:58 |
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| henninge | sianis: can you please tell me where you are requesting the download exactly? Copy the link from your browser, please. | 15:06 |
| sianis | ok | 15:06 |
| sianis | henninge: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/ubuntu-docs/+pots/about-ubuntu/hu/+export | 15:07 |
| henninge | sianis: thanks, I am trying it myself now. | 15:08 |
| kousu | I'm trying to switch to launchpad from sourceforge for code hosting. We have lp:mixxx tracking our svn already but I'm trying to figure out if we're supposed to start pushing to that or if we need to make a new empty branch and work there. | 15:16 |
| henninge | sianis: Worked for me. | 15:16 |
| henninge | sianis: The mails took about 8 minutes to arrive. | 15:17 |
| sianis | henninge: I also requested it, nothing riht now | 15:17 |
| sianis | henninge: it is arrieved | 15:20 |
| sianis | strange :) | 15:20 |
| henninge | sianis: probably greylisting on your mail server or something similar. | 15:21 |
| henninge | sianis: I am glad that it worked for you now. | 15:21 |
| sianis | ok thx | 15:21 |
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| kousu | I think I corrupted the launchpad branch I am trying to move my code into. How do I delete it? | 15:31 |
| Odd_Bloke | kousu: There's an option in the UI. | 15:33 |
| kousu | Odd_Bloke: on http://launchpad.net? | 15:33 |
| kousu | I can't find it | 15:33 |
| Odd_Bloke | kousu: http://code.launchpad.net/~<you>/<project>/<branch name> or something similar. | 15:35 |
| kousu | Odd_Bloke: oooh the tiny Trash icon | 15:35 |
| Odd_Bloke | kousu: Oh, right. | 15:35 |
| Odd_Bloke | Yeah, the tiny Trash icon. :) | 15:36 |
| kousu | Next question: launchpad is already tracking our svn; if we want to switch to bzr do we use the tracked branch or do I make a new one and push our code into it? | 15:36 |
| Odd_Bloke | kousu: I would think a new one, else the importer might become confused. | 15:37 |
| Odd_Bloke | But IANA Launchpad Developer. | 15:37 |
| Odd_Bloke | gmb: ^^ | 15:37 |
| kousu | Odd_Bloke: okay, thanks, I figured that. Couldn't find any docs that said for sure (and the initial push is going to take hooours) | 15:38 |
| * gmb reads the scrollback | 15:38 | |
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| gmb | kousu: I wonder if there might be a better way. Hang on, I'll ask one of the codehosting team for you... | 15:41 |
| kousu | gmb: :D | 15:42 |
| rockstar | kousu, hi | 15:42 |
| kousu | Hi | 15:43 |
| rockstar | kousu, so you already have a code import of your svn trunk? | 15:43 |
| kousu | Yes, lp:mixxx | 15:43 |
| kousu | (though it's 20 days behind svn; there's SSL errors in the recent import logs) | 15:44 |
| rockstar | kousu, let me take a look. I bet we can fix those. | 15:44 |
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| rockstar | kousu, so I think the issues with your SSL errors will be fixed on the next import. | 15:53 |
| rockstar | kousu, so once the import gets caught up, you can ask a question in launchpad-bazaar about stopping the import, and then just work on the bazaar branch. | 15:54 |
| kousu | rockstar: thanks! | 15:55 |
| kousu | Is that launchpad-bazaar@ or #launchpad-bazaar? | 15:55 |
| rockstar | kousu, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar | 15:56 |
| kousu | thanks rockstar and gmb, launchpad is a great thing | 16:00 |
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| gmb | Thansk kousu | 16:01 |
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| MTecknology | I have a patch made with 'bzr diff > file' - How can I apply this patch to my files? | 16:22 |
| jblount | I love how launchpad bundles together the change emails when I make a bunch of changes near the same time. +++ | 16:24 |
| MTecknology | nice, I'm missing that feature | 16:25 |
| MTecknology | I got 30 emails in 5hr | 16:25 |
| rockstar | MTecknology, were they different bugs? | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | Hi - I've created two bzr branch holding mysql-dfsg-5.1 packaging bits (just the debian/ directory). These are based on Debian svn repository. When I try to push to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/mysql-server/pkg-{ubuntu,debian}-5.1 it fails. | 16:30 |
| MTecknology | rockstar: ya | 16:31 |
| mathiaz | Probably because mysql-server is already using stacked branches | 16:31 |
| rockstar | MTecknology, it won't bundle those emails. Just if you change a bug three times really quick (like if you forget to assign it to you when setting InProgress) | 16:31 |
| mathiaz | and the branches I'd like to push are not based on the upstream mysql-server ones. | 16:31 |
| MTecknology | oh | 16:31 |
| mathiaz | How can I handle this situation? | 16:32 |
| rockstar | mathiaz, are you in ubuntu-core-dev ? | 16:32 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: yes | 16:32 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116915/ | 16:34 |
| rockstar | mathiaz, looks like your two branches are different formats. | 16:34 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: yes - my branches are based on an svn repository | 16:35 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: which is different from what upstream mysql-server is using | 16:35 |
| mathiaz | so it seems I won't be able to push the packaging branches to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/mysql-server/ | 16:36 |
| rockstar | mathiaz, if you create new branches you can. | 16:37 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: from the website? | 16:38 |
| rockstar | mathiaz, or just push. | 16:38 |
| rockstar | You don't have to register the branch first. | 16:38 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: well push doesn't work | 16:38 |
| rockstar | mathiaz, you're pushing to a branch that already exists. | 16:39 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/mysql-server/pkg-debian-5.1/ | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: ^^ doesn't exist | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: mysql-server does and uses stacked branches | 16:40 |
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| rockstar | mathiaz, this one? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/mysql-server/pkg-debian-5.1/ | 16:41 |
| rockstar | mathiaz, ah, I see what you're saying. It shouldn't be trying to stack though. | 16:41 |
| rockstar | mathiaz, could you file a bug on that? | 16:43 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: sure | 16:43 |
| mathiaz | rockstar: against launchpad? or another project? | 16:44 |
| rockstar | mathiaz, launchpad-bazaar | 16:44 |
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| MTecknology | matsubara: hi | 16:49 |
| matsubara | hello MTecknology | 16:50 |
| MTecknology | matsubara: guess what... | 16:50 |
| MTecknology | blueprints really do offer an insane amount of karma.... | 16:51 |
| mpt | That's because few people use them compared with the other Launchpad applications | 16:52 |
| mpt | (not that that's a good reason, necessarily, but it is the reason) | 16:52 |
| matsubara | MTecknology: I'll close that bug then. thanks | 16:52 |
| MTecknology | yup | 16:53 |
| MTecknology | matsubara: it just takes a really long time to do | 16:53 |
| MTecknology | I mean for the karma to get added | 16:53 |
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| mrooney | What is the correct way to translate a new series? I uploaded a new template and was expecting any already translated strings in the current series to carry over, but this didn't happen. | 17:13 |
| mrooney | Do I export the translations from series A and upload them to series B? | 17:13 |
| mrooney | Hm that doesn't seem like an option | 17:14 |
| MTecknology | any admins sitting around here? | 17:20 |
| MTecknology | mpt: stop doing that | 17:21 |
| MTecknology | I ask something you can help on and you pop in right after :P | 17:21 |
| mpt | MTecknology, stop doing what? | 17:21 |
| MTecknology | mpt: Can you help me change a version number? | 17:21 |
| mpt | MTecknology, probably not | 17:22 |
| MTecknology | oh | 17:22 |
| MTecknology | I figured you probably could from the lp hostmask | 17:23 |
| mpt | There may be a "Change details" link or similar on the thing you want to change | 17:23 |
| mpt | If there isn't, you'll need to file a request to change it <https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad> | 17:23 |
| MTecknology | there is, but I can't change that portion of it | 17:23 |
| danilos | mrooney: yes, you should export all translations from one series and upload them into a new one | 17:26 |
| danilos | mrooney: we are working on making this automatic in the near future | 17:26 |
| mrooney | danilos: but that won't stomp over my new TEMPLATE, right? | 17:27 |
| danilos | mrooney: depends on the setup and file names | 17:27 |
| MTecknology | mpt: what do you do for lp? | 17:27 |
| danilos | mrooney: you should not upload old template if you already have a new template up (i.e. you can put that in a tarball instead) | 17:27 |
| danilos | mrooney: Launchpad is smart enough to do the merge of all pofiles correctly with the new template | 17:28 |
| gmb | MTecknology: mpt it part of Canonical's design team and is a former member of the Launchpad team. He's a UI / design guru. | 17:29 |
| mrooney | danilos: ahh I see, thanks! Can I upload just the translations without a template or will it be unhappy? | 17:29 |
| MTecknology | oh | 17:29 |
| gmb | And possibly a demigod, but I haven't established that beyond reasonable doubt yet. | 17:29 |
| MTecknology | :P | 17:29 |
| MTecknology | Oh... is LP actually going to be opened up to the public? | 17:30 |
| MTecknology | the source to it | 17:30 |
| Odd_Bloke | MTecknology: For future reference, the "Help contact" in the topic is the person to go to. | 17:30 |
| MTecknology | Odd_Bloke: oh, I've never noticed that | 17:30 |
| mpt | MTecknology, yes, it will be open-sourced in July | 17:31 |
| MTecknology | wow | 17:31 |
| MTecknology | I wonder how many people will try to go from LP to their own servers... | 17:32 |
| MTecknology | is that part of the reason for opening it? reduce load? I was thinking about it and the load on those servers needs to be insane | 17:33 |
| Odd_Bloke | Is it all being freed, or just the UI code? | 17:34 |
| gmb | Odd_Bloke: Everything except Soyuz and codehosting: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/how-we-are-open-sourcing-launchpad | 17:34 |
| MTecknology | nice | 17:37 |
| MTecknology | that secret sauce thing is why I was surprised to see it released at all | 17:38 |
| gmb | MTecknology: It's being opened because we always promised that we would open it, and we think we've now come to a point where we can open it *and* sustain a paid development team for it, which was one of the major objections to it being opened. | 17:38 |
| gmb | MTecknology: As far as load is concerned, well, we're working on making Launchpad much faster (that's our major 3.0 goal). Whether people will want to run their own instance or not I don't know, but I do know that Launchpad does require quite a bit of infrastructure. | 17:39 |
| Odd_Bloke | Oh crap. | 17:40 |
| Odd_Bloke | I made the mistake of reading comments on the internet. | 17:40 |
| MTecknology | I'm not going away, the thought of doing it myself is scary :P - my web server has a 400MHz proc :P | 17:40 |
| === bac is now known as bac_lunch | ||
| MTecknology | somehow it does a good job though | 17:40 |
| gmb | Odd_Bloke: Generally not a good thing... why, what's perturbed you? | 17:40 |
| MTecknology | Odd_Bloke: me too - they're kinda irritating | 17:40 |
| MTecknology | the only comment of any value was the link to that other article | 17:41 |
| Odd_Bloke | gmb: The number of complaints about Soyuz not being freed. | 17:41 |
| gmb | Ah. | 17:41 |
| gmb | Well, it's a contentious issue in some parts of the OSS world. | 17:42 |
| MTecknology | 9 is a good comment | 17:42 |
| MTecknology | can't imagine why | 17:42 |
| Odd_Bloke | Well, I would prefer if it were free. But, equally, having a paid development team is probably vastly more useful to it at this point in time. | 17:43 |
| Odd_Bloke | I'd be interested to see if a Soyuz-a-like is developed once everything else is free... | 17:43 |
| Odd_Bloke | s/I'd/I'll/ | 17:43 |
| MTecknology | LOL! | 17:44 |
| MTecknology | ok - so sabdfl is good in an arguement | 17:44 |
| === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: - | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net | ||
| maxb | I wish Soyuz was being opened, because it's part of the Ubuntu process that particularly interests me. (And has bugs I'd help in fixing). On the other hand, I wish people would stop getting uppity about it, when it's clearly Canonical's right to decide which bits of its work it releases. | 18:05 |
| bigjools | on the bright side, you'll get to see the code for the Soyuz UI stuff | 18:08 |
| maxb | Meanwhile, how about you guys who do have the source get on to fixing those Packages-arch-specific processing bugs? :-) | 18:10 |
| geser | cprov: any update on question #59622 (Re-publish libtest-perl-critic-perl in jaunty)? Is some information missing or is it somewhere in your work queue? | 18:17 |
| cprov | geser: No, I'm sorry, it's not happening in this cycle. | 18:17 |
| cprov | geser: scratch that, I just have to resurrect the binaries for you, will do that. | 18:19 |
| geser | thanks | 18:19 |
| cprov | geser: let's talk about it | 18:24 |
| cprov | geser: the superseded publication is in intrepid and you want it to be resurrect in jaunty, right ? | 18:25 |
| cprov | geser: why you can't simply bump the version and do a new upload ? | 18:25 |
| === bac_lunch is now known as bac | ||
| geser | cprov: both intrepid and jaunty are affected, but for intrepid I should probably go through a SRU to add it back which is not really worth it | 18:27 |
| geser | for jaunty I could reupload it if it's easier for you | 18:27 |
| cprov | geser: it is | 18:27 |
| cprov | geser: also the higher version might be beneficial | 18:28 |
| geser | ok, will reupload it then | 18:28 |
| cprov | I'd have to request archive-admin permission to do what you are requesting (intrepid -> jaunty) | 18:29 |
| cprov | geser: it's better if we do that in the clearest way possible, with a new upload. | 18:29 |
| geser | so in cases I find another missing deb the preferred solution is to reupload? | 18:29 |
| cprov | geser: if it's cross-series yes | 18:32 |
| cprov | geser: if it's in the development series (and it's not frozen) I can re-activate it easily. | 18:32 |
| geser | ah, ok | 18:33 |
| === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn | ||
| daniel_tp | hi, following problem: i've don't know my email address anymore i used to register (i used a trash-email-address because my .eu-mail doesnt work, always wrong, verification hash doesn't fit... bug?) | 19:23 |
| Ursinha | daniel_tp, what is a trash-email-address? and which is your user id on lp? | 19:26 |
| daniel_tp | danielkutik | 19:28 |
| daniel_tp | Ursinha, for example: www.spam.la | 19:31 |
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| AlexC_ | g'morning Earthlets | 20:07 |
| AlexC_ | is there a way to see the translation status of all templates, such as on https://translations.launchpad.net/tangocms/trunk - to currently do this we have to go through every template to see. We'd like a general overview of how much translating has been done | 20:07 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| mrooney | danilos: are you around by any chance? I can't figure out how to move over my translations properly to a new series | 20:27 |
| === salgado is now known as salgado-afk | ||
| mrooney | I download the old series PO files, replaced the template with the new one, and upload that | 20:28 |
| mrooney | and after getting the success email, there are still no translations showing up for that series | 20:28 |
| mrooney | hmm..maybe I've figured it out... | 20:44 |
| dsas_ | Hello, I'm wondering if there's some way the ubuntu-docs team cam bugs on the ubuntu source package and bugs on the ubuntu-doc project better synchronised? | 21:00 |
| dsas_ | few or 0 bugs are ubuntu specific. The package is maintained in our bzr repo. | 21:01 |
| dsas_ | Currently we have to either check two different lists of bugs or change everything twice | 21:01 |
| dsas_ | bah, sorry for my english, I've open been speaking it 23 years now. | 21:02 |
| dsas_ | only, even. | 21:02 |
| mwhudson | irc destroys my ability to type | 21:02 |
| dsas_ | maybe thats it, I've been blaming the eeepc keyboard | 21:03 |
| dsas_ | anyway yes, we want to have a better workflow that gives us all bugs in one place and doesn't require lots of twiddling of lp buttons | 21:05 |
| * kfogel is away: back on later | 21:31 | |
| MTecknology | How do I get my projects license reviewed? | 22:21 |
| beuno | MTecknology, you poke bac | 22:23 |
| * bac hides | 22:23 | |
| MTecknology | bac: hi | 22:23 |
| bac | MTecknology: gimme an URL | 22:23 |
| MTecknology | bac: don't worry, I'm still making sure I have it right | 22:23 |
| bac | MTecknology: what is your project named? | 22:24 |
| MTecknology | loco-drupal | 22:24 |
| MTecknology | I know the license isn't right yet | 22:24 |
| bac | MTecknology: how do you expect it to change? | 22:26 |
| MTecknology | I'm not sure. I'm just running around and trying to make sure I have the right license applied. | 22:27 |
| bac | MTecknology:it looks ok right now. the restriction you have seems reasonable. as long as you don't muck it up with a bunch of CC-NC stuff. :) | 22:27 |
| MTecknology | I was kinda hoping to find a link to an ubuntu webpage to explain that paragraph | 22:28 |
| bac | MTecknology: sorry, i can't help there. but when you have it finalized just ping me here or send me email (bac at canonical) and i'll take a look. | 22:28 |
| MTecknology | ok | 22:29 |
| bac | MTecknology: are you behind 'loco-drupal-dev'? does it really need to hang around? | 22:29 |
| mtaylor | launchpad didn't like my code review :( | 22:33 |
| mwhudson | did it say why? | 22:35 |
| mtaylor | mwhudson: OOPS-1138CEMAIL12 | 22:36 |
| mwhudson | oh | 22:36 |
| mtaylor | mwhudson: I was trying out the "approve code review via email" thing | 22:37 |
| mwhudson | mtaylor: the proposal was already marked "merged" | 22:37 |
| mtaylor | mwhudson: ah. ok | 22:37 |
| mwhudson | mtaylor: there is a bug about this, i think it may be fix committed already | 22:37 |
| mtaylor | mwhudson: about giving a better feedback message? | 22:37 |
| mwhudson | mtaylor: i can't remember the resolution, that sounds like the absolute minimum fix | 22:39 |
| mtaylor | awesome. well... good to know | 22:39 |
| mtaylor | mwhudson: next time I'll try the email review interface _before_ I merge the code | 22:39 |
| mwhudson | mtaylor: here's the bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/326056 | 22:40 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 326056 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS on InvalidStateTransition when reviewing code by mail" [Low,Triaged] | 22:40 |
| mwhudson | it's marked Low, which sounds a bit rubbish | 22:40 |
| mwhudson | feel free to comment | 22:40 |
| mwhudson | :) | 22:40 |
| mtaylor | mwhudson: just did. thanks | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | mtaylor: thanks | 22:49 |
| mwhudson | it seems to be one of those "a bug! but to fix it properly, we need to change our data model, argh" | 22:49 |
| mwhudson | whereas there is a quick fix that will actually help user experience | 22:50 |
| mtaylor | indeed | 22:50 |
| mtaylor | those happen to me all them time :) | 22:51 |
| thumper | mtaylor: that's on my to fix list | 22:56 |
| MTecknology | What license should I use for my reproduction of the launchpad-openid plugins? We converted it to use drupal 6.x | 22:58 |
| MTecknology | bac: ping | 23:04 |
| bac | hi | 23:04 |
| MTecknology | jonobaconcanonical AT googlemail DOTcom | 23:05 |
| MTecknology | bac: What license should I use for my reproduction of the launchpad-openid plugins? We converted it to use drupal 6.x | 23:05 |
| bac | MTecknology: what is the original project name on LP? | 23:06 |
| MTecknology | I'm not sure... | 23:06 |
| * bac looks | 23:07 | |
| bac | https://edge.launchpad.net/drupal-openid | 23:07 |
| MTecknology | oh, I just found https://help.launchpad.net/DrupalPlugins | 23:08 |
| MTecknology | bac: Metcalfe is in our team too | 23:08 |
| bac | MTecknology: so you extended one of those modules? | 23:09 |
| MTecknology | pretty much | 23:09 |
| MTecknology | his is for drupal 5.x, ours is for 6.x and will be for 7.x | 23:09 |
| MTecknology | actually, I might talk to him about merging the projects into loco-drupal | 23:10 |
| bac | MTecknology: why does it need to be a separate project from 'drupal-openid'? | 23:10 |
| bac | MTecknology: i think stu would be better to advise you on how to manage your work than me. | 23:11 |
| MTecknology | bac: it's because we just started building on it and wound up keeing it | 23:11 |
| MTecknology | I'll talk to him for it | 23:11 |
| bac | can you chat with him when he shows up tomorrow? | 23:11 |
| bac | thanks | 23:11 |
| bac | MTecknology: i asked earlier, but did you create 'loco-drupal-dev'? if so, does it need to be kept? | 23:12 |
| MTecknology | ya, you can drop it | 23:12 |
| MTecknology | bac: would I want to keep GPLv2 for the openid stuff, or should I just use GPLv3? | 23:13 |
| bac | MTecknology: could you file a request in the Answer section of launchpad to delete that project, please? | 23:14 |
| MTecknology | ok | 23:14 |
| bac | MTecknology: if the original is "v2" then i think you should keep v2. | 23:14 |
| MTecknology | ok | 23:14 |
| MTecknology | bac: done | 23:17 |
| bac | thanks so much. clearing out the dross is good. | 23:17 |
| MTecknology | bac: could you review my license? https://launchpad.net/loco-drupal | 23:17 |
| bac | MTecknology: gladly. done. | 23:18 |
| MTecknology | thanks :) | 23:18 |
| bac | MTecknology: ttyl. i'm done for the day. ping me later if you have need. | 23:19 |
| MTecknology | bac: aight, thanks much | 23:19 |
| MTecknology | bac: still here? | 23:20 |
| bac | yep | 23:20 |
| MTecknology | how long will it be before a ducky man goes through the answers? I have two requests out there atm | 23:21 |
| MTecknology | just curious | 23:21 |
| bac | MTecknology: each day a member of the launchpad team reviews outstanding requests in the answers forum | 23:21 |
| bac | it's the person listed in the topic for this channel as "help contact" | 23:21 |
| MTecknology | ok, thanks | 23:22 |
| MTecknology | I'll bug ya later then :) | 23:22 |
| bac | they take the shift during their normal working hours, wherever that may be | 23:22 |
| bac | so henning will take a look tomorrow, german time: https://help.launchpad.net/HelpRotation | 23:23 |
| MTecknology | thanks | 23:24 |
| mathiaz | Hi - does vcs-import support non-trunk/ svn import? | 23:30 |
| mwhudson | mathiaz: yes, but with caveats | 23:37 |
| mathiaz | mwhudson: would the following vcs-import be accepted: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/dovecot/pkg-debian-1.1? | 23:40 |
| mwhudson | mathiaz: so the caveat is that if you also import svn://svn.debian.org/collab-maint/deb-maint/dovecot/trunk, the two branches will not be mergeable | 23:42 |
| mwhudson | mathiaz: if you're ok with that, then yes | 23:42 |
| mathiaz | mwhudson: because they won't have a common ancestor? | 23:43 |
| mwhudson | right | 23:43 |
| mathiaz | mwhudson: so if we track dovecot/branches/1.1-work for now in ubuntu (ie the ubuntu package is based on this branch and the ubuntu pkg branch is based on it) when debian switches to dovecot/trunk/ we'll have to give up all of the ubuntu bzr branch history | 23:46 |
| mwhudson | yep | 23:47 |
| mwhudson | bzr-svn handles svn branches much better | 23:47 |
| mathiaz | mwhudson: so the other solution is that I use bzr-svn and push the resulting branch to lp myself | 23:48 |
| mathiaz | mwhudson: and not rely on vcs-import | 23:48 |
| mwhudson | yes | 23:48 |
| mathiaz | mwhudson: ok - I'll do the latter then. | 23:49 |
| mathiaz | mwhudson: could you reject/delete https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/dovecot/pkg-debian-1.1 ? | 23:49 |
| mwhudson | mathiaz: iz gone | 23:52 |
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