[00:05] !pastebin [00:05] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [00:05] Hi [00:06] server is down [00:06] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [00:06] I was about to file a bug: [00:06] Which server? [00:07] cdimage.u.c works for me. [00:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/116627/ [00:07] not for me ... [00:08] u mean like(?): [00:08] rsync -zhhP cdimage.u.c ~/somewhere [00:08] ??? [00:09] I used: [00:10] rsync -zhhP rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily/current/jaunty-alternate-i386.iso ~/Desktop/rsync/jaunty-alternate-i386.iso [00:10] Can you check (?): [00:10] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [00:12] Theres no cd images there. [00:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/116629/ [00:12] I know [00:12] there use to be [00:13] have thwey moved? [00:13] used to be / they [00:13] sorry: slightly toasted [00:14] They either failed to build or just didn't build. [00:14] hmmm ... [00:14] I wonder if #ubuntu-testing may know better [00:14] I'm doing something wrong again? [00:14] No. [00:14] I'll check that ou then [00:15] Thanks a lot! [00:19] ok [00:19] reported [00:19] thanks 4 that [00:19] cu === Flare1833 is now known as Flare183 [05:46] good morning [05:52] dholbach: hiya [05:53] hi maco [05:56] dholbach: what replaced xutils and x-dev? [05:58] I think it's a bunch of individual small packages [05:58] aw, crap [05:58] try asking in #ubuntu-x [05:58] i dont know how to figure out *which* of those smaller packages this package build-depends on [06:02] yay for trial and error! :) [06:05] Ryan52: ? [06:06] im dpkg -S'ing for the headers. #include "foo.h" means foo.h is part of that package, right? [06:06] i only have to look for the ones in < >? [06:07] yes. === a|wen- is now known as a|wen === apw`` is now known as apw [10:19] thekorn_: ping [10:20] ara, hi === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [10:20] thekorn: hey! your changes (and mine) are now in the packaging branch at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ubuntu-qa-tools/packaging [10:20] thekorn: a bug for sponsorship is now at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-qa-tools/+bug/327992 [10:21] Ubuntu bug 327992 in ubuntu-qa-tools "Please upgrade to ubuntu-qa-tools 0.1.1" [Undecided,New] [10:21] ara, brilliant, thanks [10:21] * jpds takes a look. [10:21] thekorn: could you please get the latest from that branch, source package it and attach the diff.gz and debdiff to it, please? [10:22] thekorn: and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors when done :-) [10:22] ara, yes, going to do it in a bit [10:24] thekorn: cool, thanks :) [10:27] ara: Have you taken any scripts from ubuntu-dev-tools that might conflict? [10:27] jpds: no, they are different set of tools [10:28] ara: OK; just checking. [10:30] how to get the source code of bazaar ... bzr branch lp:amarok is giving me error( cannot pass through proxy) I think I should try to create a patch... [10:33] shankhs: Try #bzr [10:33] jpds: thanx [10:49] jpds, one question for you as a packaging hero: what is needed for the update of ubuntu-qa-tools? debdiff or diff.gz or both? [10:50] thekorn: .diff.gz [10:51] jpds, ok, good, do you have any docs on how to get this .diff.gz [10:52] maybe I'm blind, but getting a debdiff is described in so many places, [10:52] thekorn: It's generated when you make the source package. [10:52] ...but this may be a native package, so just pop the tarball up. [10:53] yes, no diff.gz after creating the sourcepackage, [10:54] OK; native, debdiff old.dsc new.dsc [10:54] yup, that's what I just did [10:54] thanks jpds [10:55] Attach the patch to LP, and I'll review and upload. [10:57] jpds, debdiff attached [11:04] thekorn: All looks good to me, uploaded, thanks. [11:04] jpds, great, Thank you [11:12] wow, this was really fast! [12:33] hi [12:34] how to install -dbgsym for all the packages I have installed? [12:34] 2) how to do that but just for all libs I have installed ? any ready solution or a script is needed [12:48] whiteplane: you can use sudo apport-retrace on a crash file, it will install the required dbg packages before retracing === warp10_ is now known as warp10 === mvo_ is now known as mvo === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [16:55] Ubuntu QA Meeting in ~5 minutes at #ubuntu-meeting, feel free to join! === calc_ is now known as calc === asac_ is now known as asac === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [18:36] hi everybody, [18:38] sorry, I did not made it to todays meeting, good to see you talked about the hugday tool [18:39] and good to see that mrkanister and mangilimic or using it for *tomorrows* hugday :) [18:39] s/or/are === paul_ is now known as Elbrus [20:34] Hello === FlareFlare is now known as Flare183 [22:13] asac: hello? [22:34] maco: ? [22:34] asac: does network manager by any chance handle WPA-PSK with TKIP differently from AES? [22:35] i was just at a cafe and couldnt connect with nm-applet, knetworkmanager, or n-m-plasmoid. but i can connect at home. the only thing i'm thinking is that i use AES and i dont think those unaware of the recent TKIP thing have switched [22:35] so im wondering if it's possible that i can use WPA-PSK at home but not out n about because of TKIP v. AES in jaunty [22:55] maco: PSK should be fully supported [22:55] maco: could be your driver [22:55] maco: which driver are you using? [22:55] iwl*? [22:56] asac: iwlagn [22:56] maco: what kind of net is that? [22:56] im using 802.11g with AES [22:56] a g n? [22:56] yes ... that works? [22:56] yes [22:56] k [22:56] and the not working one? [22:57] i dont know for sure. i just know it's wpa-psk and that i had the right key [22:57] i can try setting my router to b or n and see what happens [22:57] after class [22:58] i think n networks cause issues [22:59] at least they did for some driver/chipsets [22:59] not long ag [22:59] o [22:59] thats why i have it set to g-only right now [22:59] n was known to panic on intrepid. supposedly it's fixed. [23:00] but i didnt have any panic issues, itd just say "configuring" on any of the nm guis for about a minute, then itd give up [23:00] i thought maybe suspend was a problem, so i rebooted. i tried with all 3 guis for it, and i tried in both gnome-session and kde session [23:01] maco: Did you check with channel the AP was on, and which regulatory domain the PC is operating in (default is US - channels 1-11). [23:01] IntuitiveNipple: i'm in the US, and i've used the AP before, before they turned on WPA [23:01] maco: I got caught by that self-same thing at home because I operate the AP on channel13 and the default domain was US... changed the option to EU and that solved it [23:01] maybe a month ago... [23:02] My AP operates WPA2 TKIP+AES and Hardy would connect okay but Jaunty failed with the same symptoms you described [23:03] ill have to go back and do an iwlist [23:03] see what it says the channel and encryption are set to [23:03] but first, i should go to class. back in like 15 minute [23:04] Yeah... I was going to post a bug about it, it was really annoying me, then I noticed some kernel mailing-list traffic about cfg80211 and it clicked since the default is US. [23:04] I do think that NetworkManager should make use of it's knowledge of the user locale to reload the driver with the appropriate regulatory domain set [23:05] s/it's/its/ === jgoguen is now known as jgoguen|class [23:17] hi all [23:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/327237 [23:18] Ubuntu bug 327237 in linux "Kernel 2.6.27-11 in 8.10 has no WiFi support" [Undecided,New] [23:18] this looks critical to me [23:18] Q: is there a possibility to use Apport behind proxy with authorization? [23:28] Can someone increase the importance of bug 303112? If it is not fixed, the OpenAFS client, which many users on Intrepid, will not work at all on Jaunty. [23:28] Launchpad bug 303112 in openafs "Please upgrade to 1.4.8 for Jaunty kernel 2.6.28 support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303112 [23:32] I think that Medium importance is appropriate, given that this has a "severe impact on a non-core application". [23:36] asac: ok i'm back. i just tried to connect to open wireless. knetworkmanager wouldnt respond at all when i chose the network. i killed NM (since it interferes with iwconfig) and tried iwconfig, but it still wouldnt associate. i restarted networking and then started NM and used the plasmoid, and *then* i could connect. this feels like a "poke til it works" situation [23:38] maco: yeah. sounds driverish [23:38] maco: to be sure use the gnome nm-applet [23:38] as thats the only implementation i would trust to do things more or less right [23:47] asac: it cant be used in kde [23:47] asac: it doesnt show in the tray at all. and 2 weeks ago nm-applet wouldnt do wpa while knm would :P === Flare183 is now known as Flare-server === Flare-server is now known as Flare183 === Flare183 is now known as Flare-server