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| didrocks | hi mvo :) | 07:50 |
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| mvo | hi didrocks | 07:50 |
| crevette | hello | 09:03 |
| didrocks | lut crevette | 09:04 |
| crevette | salut didrocks | 09:05 |
| didrocks | hi seb128 & huats | 10:23 |
| huats | hey seb128 | 10:24 |
| didrocks | seb128: python-gnome and python-gnome-desktop are ready (bug #327938 and bug #327933) | 10:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 327938 in gnome-python-desktop "Please, sponsor gnome-python-desktop 2.25.90 to jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327938 | 10:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 327933 in gnome-python "Please, sponsor gnome-python 2.25.90 to jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327933 | 10:24 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks huats | 10:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok thanks | 10:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: you're welcome :) | 10:35 |
| geser | could someone please look (or even better sponsor) bug 317344 as this blocks the transition of tomboy and f-spot to the new gnome-sharp2 package names? | 11:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 317344 in gnome-desktop-sharp2 "Update to gnome-desktop-sharp2 2.24 for Tomboy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317344 | 11:16 |
| huats | pochu: do you remember why you enabled the test-suite on gnome-keyring in debian ? | 11:18 |
| pochu | huats: because test suites are good | 11:24 |
| huats | pochu: sure but any other reason ? | 11:24 |
| seb128 | you guys are speaking about gnome-keyring? | 11:25 |
| huats | because in the latest release, it fails to build if you enable them (because it sets -Werrors) | 11:25 |
| huats | seb128: yep | 11:25 |
| pochu | huats: in what arches? | 11:25 |
| seb128 | well, that's building the test tools to neither install or run those | 11:25 |
| huats | seb128: I was asking pochu if there was any reason why he enable the test-suite | 11:25 |
| pochu | huats: and since what release? | 11:26 |
| seb128 | so what is the interest? | 11:26 |
| seb128 | you don't run those during the build | 11:26 |
| pochu | seb128: isn't it a test suite? | 11:26 |
| seb128 | and you don't install those | 11:26 |
| seb128 | right, but you need to run make run if you want to run it | 11:26 |
| seb128 | and you don't do it | 11:26 |
| pochu | oh | 11:26 |
| seb128 | and you don't ship the tools either | 11:26 |
| seb128 | so I fail to see the interest | 11:26 |
| pochu | you're right then | 11:26 |
| tjaalton | seb128: I've got a request for gnome-menus; what about moving <DefaultMergeDirs/> to the end of {applications,settings}.menu, so that people can override the values by adding files in *-merged/ | 11:27 |
| pochu | clearly what I wanted to do was to run the test suite... but I failed it seems ;) | 11:27 |
| huats | pochu: it was added (the set -Werrors) between the the 2.25.4.1 dans the 2.25.5 I think | 11:27 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: who made that request? | 11:27 |
| tjaalton | seb128: me :) | 11:27 |
| pochu | huats: ah ok | 11:27 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: I've an air of dejavu | 11:27 |
| pochu | huats: so feel free to disable it... it seems my change was pointless :( | 11:27 |
| huats | pochu: and it fails on the architectures that are not present on ppa :) (otherwise we could test them more easily) | 11:28 |
| huats | pochu: already did :) | 11:28 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: let me find the bug for you | 11:28 |
| tjaalton | seb128: ok, so for instance now I can't have a file in merged/ which would remove all KDE entries from the menus (we have to install both desktops) | 11:28 |
| tjaalton | thanks | 11:28 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557443 | 11:28 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 557443 in layout "Move <DefaultMergeDirs/> to the bottom of the menu files" [Enhancement,Resolved: notabug] | 11:28 |
| tjaalton | sigh | 11:28 |
| pochu | huats: btw, do you have your check-symbols script handy? I'd like to have a look at it :) | 11:29 |
| huats | sure :) | 11:29 |
| huats | I will send it to you this afternoon ok ? | 11:29 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: edit the .menu or ship a custom one if you want to do that | 11:29 |
| tjaalton | seb128: that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid :) | 11:29 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: read the bugs for details and talk to vuntz and try to convince him if you still disagree | 11:30 |
| tjaalton | seb128: now I just include the file with the excludes, and it works just fine | 11:30 |
| tjaalton | but I had to add the include to the file | 11:30 |
| tjaalton | MergeFile that is | 11:31 |
| tjaalton | anyway, will read | 11:31 |
| pochu | huats: sure, thanks! | 11:36 |
| tjaalton | seb128: so the spec sucks :) | 11:36 |
| andreasn | mpt, ping | 12:08 |
| asac | seb128: bug 272010 -> please look at totem debdiff and tell me if you want me to push that or do something else on that package for you ;) | 12:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272010 in totem "Some plugins lack proper ubufox integration (Was: confusing plugin selection dialog)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272010 | 12:15 |
| asac | anyone here has sun java5/6 plugin installed and can give me a dpkg -L on that? | 12:21 |
| gnomefreak | asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/621196 | 12:23 |
| gnomefreak | its -l not -L | 12:23 |
| asac | gnomefreak: but i need -L ;) | 12:24 |
| gnomefreak | but dpkg doesnt like -L | 12:24 |
| syldeb35 | asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/621198 | 12:25 |
| asac | syldeb35: hmm ... there is no .so ... where are the alternative links ending? | 12:26 |
| asac | how is that file called? | 12:26 |
| didrocks | I have to bind to evince in gnome-python-desktop update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116783/ but there is no evince-dev or some similar package and it builds successfully without it. Does this mean I have only to add it as a dependency of the binary package? | 12:28 |
| geser | didrocks: did you checked the build log if it detects evince or not? I guess it checks for evince but as it doesn't find the needed headers it skips it. | 12:32 |
| didrocks | geser: let me check (and I don't find any package with header for evince, appart from the two libraries that I added libevdocument-dev and libevview-dev) | 12:33 |
| syldeb35 | asac : perhaps this one :dpkg -L sun-java6-bin -->http://pastebin.mozilla.org/621203 | 12:38 |
| syldeb35 | the alternative links end to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so | 12:38 |
| asac | yeah thanks | 12:39 |
| asac | syldeb35: is that the same filename for sun-java5-bin? | 12:39 |
| syldeb35 | not sur because sun-java5-plugin not installed but I have /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.17/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so | 12:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks: there is libevdocument and libevview which are evince libraries | 12:43 |
| syldeb35 | and /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.17/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so | 12:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, (cf my last sentence :)). I will just try to check the build log first | 12:44 |
| seb128 | asac: the debdiff looks alright please upload | 12:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks: those are the libraries supposed to be used, they did make libraries for a reason | 12:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: so, gnome-python-desktop will not really depends on evince, but only on those two libraries | 12:45 |
| seb128 | right | 12:45 |
| asac | seb128: done. thanks | 12:45 |
| seb128 | they made those libs especially for that | 12:45 |
| seb128 | asac: did you push the changes to bzr? | 12:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh right (do you follow a ML to keep up to date with those informations?) | 12:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks: not really, I do read the changes description on the ftp list | 12:46 |
| asac | seb128: am i part of -desktop? | 12:46 |
| seb128 | ie the NEWS for new tarballs | 12:46 |
| seb128 | asac: dunno, if you are not we can fix that easily ;-) | 12:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's just written "New Evince bindings", not that those 2 lib gives these bindings, but yeah, it's implicite :) | 12:48 |
| asac | seb128: trying to push ;) | 12:48 |
| asac | seb128: i think i have no permissions. can you add me? | 12:48 |
| seb128 | asac: sure, one sec | 12:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks: that might have been detailled on a planet.gnome.org blog | 12:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks: and the mention of the split was on the evince side, ie they wrote about new libs allowing embeders | 12:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok. What's strange is that I have no "no evince binding found" in the build log when I don't add them. | 12:49 |
| didrocks | too late ;) | 12:50 |
| asac | now seb is gone :) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | he will be back soon, as usually ^^ | 12:50 |
| asac | yeah. me feels itchy to push the branch and move on ;) | 12:51 |
| didrocks | asac: :) | 12:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok. What's strange is that I have no "no evince binding found" in the build log when I don't add them. | 12:51 |
| seb128 | asac: added | 12:51 |
| * asac runs bzr push | 12:52 | |
| seb128 | didrocks: maybe the configure is not verbose, are the binding built and in the deb? | 12:52 |
| asac | ok Pushed up revision 9. | 12:52 |
| seb128 | asac: danke | 12:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: let me add the b-d first to compare the build log :) | 12:52 |
| seb128 | asac: welcome to ubuntu-desktop too btw ;-) | 12:52 |
| seb128 | doing an another bootchart, brb | 12:55 |
| * asac feels thrilled | 12:55 | |
| asac | and a warm feeling of new power ;) | 12:55 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, it works. It activate a whole bunch of bindings now | 13:04 |
| seb128 | see ;-) | 13:04 |
| didrocks | seb128: let me push the new branch version | 13:04 |
| didrocks | (and tag it again) | 13:04 |
| seb128 | you are using tagging now? | 13:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, since evince update :) | 13:05 |
| didrocks | I dunno if it's useful, but well | 13:05 |
| Tm_T | hi asac | 13:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's ok now | 13:14 |
| seb128 | pitti: what command can be called to trigger suspend nowadays? | 13:24 |
| soren | pm-suspend? | 13:43 |
| soren | That's what I use. | 13:43 |
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| seb128 | mvo_: how busy are you today? ;-) | 14:21 |
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| mvo_ | seb128: medium, why? need some sponsoring love? | 14:23 |
| seb128 | mvo_: no, there is a new gnome-control-center version available, I'm looking at it but in case some your patches need to be updated ;-) | 14:23 |
| mvo_ | seb128: hm, I see. if there is trouble please ping me, I will have a look | 14:24 |
| seb128 | mvo_: ok thanks, the proxy thing doesn't apply I'm looking at it | 14:24 |
| seb128 | did I already say how much I dislike glade changes? ;-) | 14:25 |
| mvo_ | you did (and I agree) | 14:28 |
| geser | mvo_: if you have some time for sponsoring, could you please look and sponsor bug 317344? | 14:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 317344 in gnome-desktop-sharp2 "Update to gnome-desktop-sharp2 2.24 for Tomboy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317344 | 14:28 |
| mvo_ | geser: sure, let me have a look | 14:29 |
| seb128 | mvo_: ok that was an easy one you are off the hook for now ;-) | 14:29 |
| mvo_ | *puffff* | 14:30 |
| * mvo_ makes a sign of relief :) | 14:30 | |
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| seb128 | ;-) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | trying gsd update, brb | 14:30 |
| crevette | wow my karma doubled in the last 2 weeks | 14:33 |
| crevette | I started low :) | 14:33 |
| mvo | geser: I have to admit that I don't know that much about c#, is ok that its still "libgnomedesktop2.20-cil" (even though this is now updated to 2.24? | 14:36 |
| geser | mvo: me neither, I hope that the Debian maintainers know what they do (slomo did the upload to experimental) | 14:38 |
| mvo | geser: aha, if he did it, then its probably allright :) | 14:38 |
| crevette | should I ping someone to have universe packaged sponsored? I did 2 bug reports for new versions with universe sponsors subscribed, but I don't news about them | 14:39 |
| seb128 | tseliot: are you there? | 14:39 |
| mvo | oho, someone else on the hook now ;) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | crevette: no, there is just a lot of items, look on http://daniel.holba.ch/sponsoring/ | 14:39 |
| tseliot | seb128: sure | 14:39 |
| seb128 | mvo: see it's not only you ;-) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | tseliot: you gave me patch updates for some of the g-c-c changes yesterday, did you actually change something to those? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | tseliot: ie 109_screen_resolution_extra.patch applies correctly to 2.25.90 | 14:40 |
| tseliot | seb128: yes, I did changes to them | 14:41 |
| seb128 | same for 110_screen_resolution_package.patch | 14:41 |
| tseliot | seb128: I think I gave you the right patches, let me check them again | 14:41 |
| seb128 | tseliot: could you summarize the changes so I know why I should use your versions and what to write in the changelog ;-) | 14:42 |
| seb128 | http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/gnome/jaunty/gcc-patches/110_screen_resolution_package.patch | 14:42 |
| seb128 | http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/gnome/jaunty/gcc-patches/109_screen_resolution_extra.patch | 14:42 |
| seb128 | http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/gnome/jaunty/gcc-patches/25_window_manager_settings.patch | 14:42 |
| seb128 | the previous version of those still apply correctly | 14:43 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure what you changed | 14:43 |
| tseliot | seb128: there were only some small conflicts. The real changes took place in the patches for gnome-desktop | 14:43 |
| tseliot | seb128: therefore if the old patches compile, simply leave them as they are | 14:44 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:44 |
| seb128 | right the 80_aspect_in_dropdown.patch needed to be updated | 14:44 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:44 |
| tseliot | that was relevant to what I do so I thought it would be useful to update it | 14:45 |
| seb128 | indeed that was useful thanks for that one ;-) | 14:45 |
| tseliot | ;) | 14:45 |
| lool | seb128: BTW I know now what really made me unhappy about bug-buddy and gnome-dbg | 15:24 |
| lool | seb128: Something on my system pulled bug-buddy at some point | 15:24 |
| lool | which pulled gnome-dbg | 15:24 |
| lool | gnome-dbg and bug-buddy have some circular dependency (one recommends one depends) and wont ever get out of your system | 15:24 |
| lool | Downgrading the recommends make this loop go away, which is good for my sanity | 15:25 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:25 |
| seb128 | I use neither bug-buggy or gnome-dbg so I was not really bothered but I understand your issue ;-) | 15:25 |
| lool | I guess I could as well drop the bug-buddy depends from gnome-dbg | 15:26 |
| crevette | what is gnome-dbg ? | 15:27 |
| lool | a meta package pulling all the *-dbg on Debian | 15:27 |
| crevette | ah okay, I thought it was kind of debug wrapper scripts that could appears when a crash happens, and offer you to debug it, like in windows :) | 15:28 |
| seb128 | didrocks: is gnome-python-desktop ready to be reviewed? | 15:28 |
| lool | crevette: Sure, and it would also hand you a patch? :-) | 15:28 |
| crevette | lool, we could propose to run nemiver instead of bug-buddy :) | 15:29 |
| crevette | only for real mens | 15:29 |
| crevette | lool, I hope you bought the wonderful GNOME tee-shirt at FOSDEM? | 15:30 |
| maxb | I have Alt+F6 configured to "Run a terminal" as per default, and in compiz it works. In metacity, instead it causes a thick black border to highlight the active window - what is this hilight for, and why is it intercepting the configured keybinding? | 15:31 |
| lool | crevette: I did | 15:32 |
| crevette | lool, \./ | 15:32 |
| crevette | are they nice? I choose them, I ordered the print, but I don't know what they look like :) | 15:32 |
| crevette | s/what/how/ | 15:33 |
| walters | maxb: see /apps/metacity/global_keybindings - by default that's switch_group which switches windows inside a "group" (application, sort of) | 15:33 |
| maxb | hmm | 15:34 |
| maxb | I guess I need to file a bug about the UI and actual behaviour disagreeing | 15:34 |
| asac | seb128: what do you think about bug 217551 ... nm just opens gtk_menu_popup with activate_time | 15:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 217551 in network-manager "Password prompt "freezes" system during presence of a drop-down menu [hardy]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217551 | 15:34 |
| lool | crevette: They are simple and nice | 15:34 |
| lool | I like the color a lot better than last year's | 15:34 |
| crevette | don't you like the green ? | 15:35 |
| crevette | :) | 15:35 |
| seb128 | asac: needs debugging? | 15:35 |
| crevette | the burgundy looked like cool on the paper | 15:35 |
| crevette | so I chose that :) | 15:35 |
| seb128 | asac: any reason you don't try to authentificate while the menu is open? | 15:35 |
| maxb | Where are the keybindings that gnome-keybinding-properties edits stored? | 15:37 |
| asac | seb128: hmm ... dont think i understand what you mean. from what i understood the keyring dialog is triggered and then all input isnt processed anymore | 15:37 |
| seb128 | asac: to me it seems that the keyring callback get called while the menu is open which creates a keyboard grabbing issue | 15:38 |
| seb128 | asac: usually you open a menu, click on an item, that calls the keyring callback and the menu is closed before you get the dialog | 15:38 |
| asac | seb128: how does keyring grab keyboard? | 15:39 |
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| asac | gdk_keyboard_grab ;) | 15:40 |
| seb128 | asac: yes | 15:41 |
| seb128 | asac: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554782 | 15:43 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 554782 in nm-applet "race condition or deadlock between nm-applet and gnome-keyring" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 15:43 |
| seb128 | asac: that bug suggests it has been fixed in nm-applet svn some months ago, do you still get the issue on jaunty? | 15:43 |
| asac | seb128: keyring does no error handling for "grab_keyboard" | 15:45 |
| seb128 | asac: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/network-manager-applet?view=revision&revision=1062 ? | 15:46 |
| asac | seb128: Not fixed in intrepid, not fixed in jaunty. C'mon guys, this is REALLY irritating bug. | 15:47 |
| asac | seb128: i think it fixed the issue partially | 15:47 |
| asac | if you reopen the menu before keyring pops up it might reproduce still | 15:48 |
| seb128 | asac: I agree it's an irritating bug | 15:48 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure what the right fix is though | 15:48 |
| seb128 | keyboard grabbing should fail in this case no? | 15:48 |
| seb128 | brb | 15:49 |
| seb128 | trying compiz update | 15:49 |
| asac | hmm | 15:49 |
| * seb128 looks to mvo | 15:51 | |
| seb128 | mvo: can I get a wm running? danke! | 15:51 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Plugin 'core' has ABI version '20090207', expected ABI version '20080828'. | 15:52 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (ccp) - Error: InitObject failed | 15:52 |
| seb128 | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'ccp' | 15:52 |
| seb128 | mvo: you broke my jaunty ;-) | 15:52 |
| maxb | seb128: Have you got the recent compiz-fusion-plugins-{main,extra} updates? They seemed to take a while to reach the mirrors | 15:52 |
| maxb | Though clearly there aren't strict enough dependencies | 15:53 |
| mvo | seb128: did you upgrade everything? hrm hrm | 15:53 |
| seb128 | maxb: that's alright, I know what is broken and why, I'm just teasing mvo because he didn't use breaks correctly ;-) | 15:53 |
| mvo | but yeah, some dependency strictness is missing | 15:53 |
| seb128 | mvo: no, I did upgrade compiz-gnome | 15:54 |
| * mvo sighs | 15:54 | |
| mvo | seb128: ha! so you did it on purpose ;) ? | 15:54 |
| seb128 | which triggered compiz-core and compiz-plugins to be upgraded | 15:54 |
| seb128 | mvo: yes, just to show if you did use breaks correctly this time ;-) | 15:54 |
| seb128 | show -> see | 15:54 |
| * mvo hides under a rock | 15:55 | |
| maxb | The new compiz has also broken a few keyboard shortcuts (bug 328111) | 15:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 328111 in compiz "New compiz appears to have broken Alt+F1, F2, F6 shortcuts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328111 | 15:57 |
| mvo | oh, thanks maxb | 15:57 |
| mvo | maxb: could you please check if you have the "gnomecompat" plugin enable (it should be default) | 15:57 |
| maxb | Sure!.. How? :-) | 15:57 |
| seb128 | mvo: bug #327793 has some users which have issues | 15:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 327793 in compiz "Window decorations in title bar missing with compiz enabled" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327793 | 15:59 |
| seb128 | mvo: but that seems to be partial upgrades | 15:59 |
| seb128 | restarting session again | 15:59 |
| mvo | seb128: the broken title bar should be fixed | 16:00 |
| seb128 | mvo: ok, I get 6 workspaces on one line rather than 8 on 2 lines now | 16:01 |
| seb128 | but compiz is running | 16:01 |
| mvo | seb128: hrm, bad | 16:03 |
| seb128 | let me do an another session restart to make sure that's not transitionnal | 16:03 |
| seb128 | mvo: hum and the gnome-panel taskbar lists all the dialog open, not only the ones on the current workspace as it should | 16:05 |
| davmor2 | bryce: you around yet? | 16:14 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks for the sponsoring (when you have some time, there is still gnome-python one) | 16:14 |
| seb128 | didrocks: did you subscribe the sponsor team? it's not listed on | 16:15 |
| seb128 | http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/index.html | 16:15 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, apparently: bug #327933 | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 327933 in gnome-python "Please, sponsor gnome-python 2.25.90 to jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327933 | 16:16 |
| seb128 | it's in the not correctly parsed list, weird | 16:16 |
| didrocks | I will report a bug to dholbach :) | 16:16 |
| mvo | seb128: oh, lets talk about it after my meeting | 16:18 |
| seb128 | mvo: it doesn't do it for everything, I'm trying to see what is going on exactly | 16:18 |
| seb128 | mvo: are you running you shiny new compiz version? ;-) | 16:25 |
| mvo | seb128: no, don't tell me you run this unstable gnome ;) - kidding, yes I do on my workstation | 16:26 |
| bryce | davmor2: yep | 16:26 |
| mvo | maxb: please open "ccsm" (from e.g. a terminal) and check it should be in the top row | 16:27 |
| seb128 | mvo: can you try to open evolution on any workspace and see if it's listed on all workspaces? | 16:27 |
| seb128 | mvo: or gnome-screenshot | 16:27 |
| seb128 | mvo: listed in the gnome-panel tasks, not in alt-tab | 16:28 |
| mvo | seb128: for me it seems to be only in the main one, maybe its viewport<->workspace ocnfusion again :( ? | 16:28 |
| mvo | and I run a very fresh profile, reseted it the other day | 16:28 |
| mvo | (the compiz profile) | 16:28 |
| seb128 | I run a recent profile too | 16:29 |
| seb128 | I selected normal in the capplet to restart compiz after the partial broken upgrade | 16:29 |
| davmor2 | bryce: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/309482 I've added the nv stuff. Is there an easy way to force vesa use though for the vesa info everytime it reboots it's using nv again | 16:29 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 309482 in xserver-xorg-video-nv "jaunty: Kubuntu OEM enduser setup fails with black screen (nv driver fails)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:29 |
| mvo | seb128: lets debug after the meeting/tomorrow, I may need the dump of your profiel settings | 16:30 |
| seb128 | mvo: ok, let me know when you want to debug this | 16:32 |
| asac | mvo: in the past i saw packages in /var/cache/apt/archives in apt-cache show PACKAGENAME ... thats not the case in jaunty anymore? | 16:36 |
| asac | s/packages/package-versions/ | 16:36 |
| bryce | heya mvo | 16:39 |
| bryce | mvo: btw we can drop the blacklisting of Intel Eaglelake from compiz now. | 16:40 |
| bryce | mvo, (LP: #261080) | 16:40 |
| bluesmoke | bug 261080 | 16:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 261080 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Intrepid: compiz fails on Intel McCreary [8086:2e02]" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/261080 | 16:41 |
| mvo | bryce: done | 16:54 |
| mvo | asac: hm, what execalty did you see in the past? I have not changed anything here | 16:55 |
| mvo | asac: I will be away for some minutes, lets talk after | 16:55 |
| asac | mvo: i think i saw all versions in the cache ... now i see: version in archive + version installed | 16:56 |
| asac | but no version that is in cache but not installed nor in archive | 16:56 |
| mvo | asac: I don't think this ever worked, might be conincidence (archive==version-in-cache) | 16:58 |
| asac | mvo: well. i am quite sure it worked. i used it frequently | 16:58 |
| * asac confused | 16:59 | |
| asac | of course i believe you ;) | 16:59 |
| mvo | asac: hm, I can review the bzr logs, but I have currently no idea | 16:59 |
| asac | you are the man (TM) | 16:59 |
| mvo | asac: might be really strange side effect or something | 16:59 |
| * mvo really runs now | 16:59 | |
| mvo | bbl | 16:59 |
| bryce | mvo: excellent, thanks! | 17:06 |
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| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| highvoltage | anyone else have a problem in Jaunty where "Launching File Browser" just opens up in a loop in the window list and slows down the machine to a crawl? | 18:07 |
| dobey | highvoltage: i've seen that happen in intrepid before. could be an extension you have installed, causing problems | 18:24 |
| highvoltage | dobey: I think it started happening when I installed the netbook-launcher, but it happens even in a safe-mode gnome-session | 18:25 |
| highvoltage | (when the netbook-launcher isn't started) | 18:25 |
| dobey | highvoltage: when it happened to me, it was a python-based nautilus extension i was playing with, causing nautilus to "crash" and the session kept restarting it | 18:25 |
| maxb | mvo: ccsm showed the gnomecompat plugin not selected. ticking it restored Alt+F1 and Alt+F2, but not Alt+F6. However, there's a further problem with handling these as a compiz plugin - it means the settings in gnome-keybinding-properties are not respected | 18:30 |
| * maxb goes to say the same in the bug | 18:30 | |
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| crevette | wow a lot of -dbg pulled in the lastest update | 19:00 |
| maxb | Yeah, I think that isn't sane | 19:04 |
| maxb | bug-buddy is the source of the Recommends that pulls it all, AFAIK | 19:04 |
| pochu | well, you shouldn't need bug-buddy in Ubuntu ;) | 19:05 |
| maxb | But I didn't install it manually | 19:06 |
| maxb | It may be that update-manager needs to consider removing bug-buddy rather than pulling in all that lot | 19:06 |
| benc | do I need to install or configure a firewall on ubuntu desktop? | 19:34 |
| BugMaN | benc: read this -> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/keeping-safe/C/firewall.html | 19:36 |
| benc | thanks. is it recommended or unnecesary? | 19:37 |
| BugMaN | benc: not necessary like in a windows environment | 19:38 |
| benc | BugMaN: I'm developing web applications so I guess I should setup a firewall. thanks | 19:39 |
| BugMaN | benc: ok in this case is better to install a firewall | 19:40 |
| benc | thanks | 19:40 |
| mvo | maxb: thanks for this update, I check it out (tomorrow) | 20:26 |
| asac | since today my window decorations are white :/ | 20:29 |
| asac | maybe uxa | 20:29 |
| asac | let me test | 20:29 |
| asac | hmm ... that wasnt the problem | 20:32 |
| bryce | asac: is this with the new 6.10.99 -ati? | 20:47 |
| asac | bryce: no thats on my thinkpad with i965 | 20:48 |
| asac | i am currently upgrading in the hope that its gone :) | 20:48 |
| bryce | ok | 20:49 |
| bryce | duh right, uxa == intel | 20:49 |
| asac | bryce: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/screen_white.png | 20:49 |
| asac | but its not accellmethod | 20:50 |
| bryce | weird. compiz maybe? | 20:50 |
| bryce | compiz (1:0.7.9+git20090211-0ubuntu1) was uploaded yesterday, that'd be my first guess | 20:52 |
| bryce | if you still have earlier compiz debs in your /var/cache/apt/archives/ maybe try reverting? | 20:53 |
| asac | bryce: ok. it was a temporary issue as it seems | 20:53 |
| asac | last update made it go away \o/ | 20:54 |
| asac | how colorful a desktop can be ... impressive ;) | 20:54 |
| asac | for a moment i thought it was an experient from dx team ;) | 20:54 |
| asac | experiment | 20:55 |
| bryce | hehe | 20:58 |
| Amaranth | asac, bryce: Downgrade metacity, not compiz | 22:34 |
| Amaranth | libmetacity-private changed | 22:34 |
| Amaranth | The fix should be in compiz git at this point, gotta check on that | 22:34 |
| Amaranth | Problem was we were creating an RGBA colormap the "old-fashioned" way since when that code was written the way libmetacity wants it done didn't exist | 22:35 |
| asac | Amaranth: for me its fixed already | 22:35 |
| Amaranth | ah, mvo is quick :) | 22:35 |
| Amaranth | yay a git snapshot even | 22:38 |
| Amaranth | that means wall viewport changing should look a lot cooler | 22:38 |
| bryce | sweetness. dual head at 3840 x 1200, and compiz is working (and nice performance). | 22:51 |
| maxb | asac's grey titlebar issue should be fixed with latest compiz and metacity in the archive | 22:51 |
| bryce | on RV535/X1650 | 22:52 |
| bryce | I'm stunned, I've not had both dual-head and compiz like this before. very nice | 22:52 |
| * bryce wobbles windows across two monitors | 22:53 | |
| dobey | bryce: i wonder how well it works at 4096x1152 :) | 22:53 |
| bryce | hmm, only issue so far is when I first enabled compiz, it moved all my gnome-terminal windows to 0x0 | 22:55 |
| bryce | Amaranth: hey, have you played with the cube and dual-head displays? | 23:16 |
| Amaranth | bryce: not in a _long_ time | 23:16 |
| bryce | basically it seems to give me two cubes, one for each screen | 23:17 |
| bryce | with each screen being an adjacent face on the cube | 23:17 |
| bryce | which... works... but doesn't feel right | 23:17 |
| * bryce shrugs | 23:17 | |
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