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macodiscussing kernel bugs goes in the "kernel development discussion" category, right?08:33
sorenUsually.08:37
macoso how should i go about debugging an issue with a hotkey that apparently is kernel-level because input_events and acpi_listen both say nothing's going on when i press the key?08:38
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mnemothere is something weird happening with the kernel source package... I get this --> http://rafb.net/p/hSVkME70.html09:37
mnemobut some other people are not getting that problem09:37
mnemo(im using "main server" in apt software sources config)09:37
TheMusomnemo: You are better off fetching the linux source either from git, or with linux=2.6.28-7.20 for example.09:43
mnemobut the git might contain some patches that are not in my binary right? because I assume a new package is generated automatically every time someting is commited to the git tree?09:44
mnemoTheMuso: what you mean exactly when you say "use linux=2.6.28-7.20" ??09:45
TheMusomnemo: You use the source package name linux, and you are giving an exact version number, so apt-get doesn't get confused and look up the first partial match it finds.09:45
TheMusomnemo: I don't know how the kernel team do PPA uploads, but what is in git now may not be in the binaries that are in the archive.09:46
TheMusoMore to the point, I don't know how often they upload to PPAs etc.09:46
mnemook, makes sense09:46
mnemobut what would be the full apt-get command line for doing the linux=2.6.28-7.20 trick?09:47
TheMusoapt-get source linux=2.6.28-7.20 as of the latest upload from the kernel team in the archive.09:47
mnemohow did you find that number? I mean if I want to do this again later on09:48
TheMusomnemo: Best place to check is launchpad, http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux09:48
mnemook thanks09:51
TheMusoYou're welcome.09:51
* TheMuso sighs. Ok, that should be the final ports upload for now, and should get us binaries on most if not all ports architectures.09:55
TheMusoAll arches would be nice, but there may yet be unknown FTBF issues on ia64, sparc, or hppa.09:56
persiaI'm working on the Jaunty LPIA alternate CD, and have run into issues with not being able to load the CD-ROM driver after first boot under KVM.  It was suggested that this may be a missing kernel module in the udebs, but I'm not seeing much variance in the set of modules built between the regular kernel and the lpia kernel in the debian/d-i/modules directory.  Could someone help me track down this issue, or redirect me to the appropriate foru11:44
persiam?11:44
johanWhat can I do to get a vmlinux file for my standard ubuntu kernel?12:58
johanDo I have to rebuild the kernel and extract that file from the source tree? Or is there a way to extract a vmlinux out of a vmlinuz?12:58
sorenjohan: It's just a gzipped vmlinux, I believe.13:13
johansoren: google tells me there are no known tools to extract it13:15
sorengzip?13:15
johanI'd guess that the symbols are also stripped13:15
rtgjohan: there are still enough symbols to load modules.13:15
johanrtg: yes, but not enough to get useful information out of oprofile13:16
rtgother then the exported public symbols, then yes you are correct13:17
johanthere used to be linux-image-debug kernels just for that, but appears they're not updated any longer13:17
rtgjohan: IIRC, Hardy is the last release that produced debug kernels13:18
johanrtg: is there a reason they can't be built and put on ddeb.ubuntu.com for instance?13:19
rtgI think we determined that it was a lot of build/space overhead for little benefit. no one seemed to be using them.13:20
johanit's pretty useful to have them for tools like systemtap/oprofile13:23
Keybuknyargh!15:29
Keybukthe kernel's silly fd interfaces never cease to annoy me15:29
Keybukthey're implemented as streams, yet don't behave like streams15:30
Keybukyou can't just read part of the data into a buffer, it returns -EINVAL if the buffer is too small for the struct15:30
Keybukbut you can over-read multiple structs in one read15:31
Keybukshould so be a msgbuf instead15:31
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Kanohi rtg 21:18
rtgKano: you're on my todo list for tomorrow21:23
* laga blinks21:23
Kanothats a tiny patch against the driver you already have, i tested it as external compile hack, it compiled21:23
Kanobut the user with the webcam did not appear, all i can say it compiled21:23
rtgKano: if it doesn't fix anything, then why bother21:24
Kanoit fixes the compilation,the tiny patch i gave you in the last mail21:24
Kanoi guess it could work21:24
Kanoit was always the same abi change21:25
Kanoso i guess the patch is correct21:25

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