| thomasdelbeke | Hi guys | 00:15 |
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| thomasdelbeke | server down? | 00:15 |
| thomasdelbeke | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ | 00:16 |
| thomasdelbeke | http://paste.ubuntu.com/116627/ | 00:16 |
| thomasdelbeke | http://paste.ubuntu.com/116629/ | 00:16 |
| charlie-tca | If you use the browser to go there, there are no alternate images today | 00:17 |
| thomasdelbeke | I know ... | 00:17 |
| thomasdelbeke | rsync don't work either ... | 00:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | I was gonna file bug | 00:18 |
| charlie-tca | rsync fails if the images are not there | 00:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | rsync -zhhP rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily/current/jaunty-alternate-i386.iso ~/Desktop/rsync/jaunty-alternate-i386.iso | 00:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | yeah! | 00:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | hehe | 00:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | anyway | 00:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | just wanted to report | 00:19 |
| thomasdelbeke | thanks for feedback! | 00:19 |
| thomasdelbeke | cu | 00:19 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 00:19 |
| ara | morning all :) | 07:31 |
| ara | persia, I am around, in case you need help with the testcases wiki | 07:42 |
| persia | ara, Good morning. Could you start with just an overview of what goes where, and how that interacts with the ISO tracker? | 07:43 |
| ara | persia: about the interaction with the ISO tracker, I have no clue. Better wait for schwuk to wake up, or If you're offline by the time he logs in, I will ask him for you | 07:45 |
| ara | persia: if you go to http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/ you can see, more or less, the structure | 07:46 |
| ara | persia: in applications you have to add test cases for the application, following the template at http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/TestCaseTemplate | 07:46 |
| ara | i.e. Nautilus: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/Nautilus | 07:47 |
| ara | persia: you have to choose a 3-letter code per application, and then one number per test case (i.e. for nautilius: nfm-001, nfm-002,...) | 07:48 |
| persia | So, to add a new flavour, I'd add test cases for each of the applications concerned under Applications, and then link to them from a flavour page? | 07:48 |
| persia | Also, what's the filter for separation between "Applications" and "System"? | 07:49 |
| ara | persia: system is supposed to be for things that are better fitted for the System menu, rather than the Applications menu | 07:50 |
| ara | persia: about the flavour, yes, you can add one more to the home page, and then links (or includes) to other things under applications, system or install (for type of installations) | 07:51 |
| persia | Would that also extend to things under "Preferences" where there aren't that class of menus? | 07:51 |
| ara | persia: yes, I would do that way | 07:52 |
| persia | For the installer tests, is it safe to assume "Desktop" means LiveCD? | 07:53 |
| ara | persia: yes, that is what it means :-) the iso name says "desktop" :) | 07:54 |
| persia | Well, not all of them :) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mid/daily-live/current/jaunty-mid-lpia.img doesn't have "Desktop" | 07:55 |
| ara | persia: :-) | 07:56 |
| ara | persia: you can request then a change of name in the wiki to be more "all flavours" compliant | 07:56 |
| persia | To whom would that request be directed? | 07:57 |
| persia | Also, I see a link from Applications to Applications/EvolutionMail and a link from Ubuntu/Applications to Ubuntu/Applications/Evolution | 07:58 |
| persia | Is there a guide as to which sort of naming scheme is correct? | 07:58 |
| ara | persia: mmm, I don't think there is a guide yet, let me try to find something. but the correct path is Applications/<application>, but we are still migrating those with the wrong path | 07:59 |
| persia | So "Ubuntu/Applications/Evolution" is wrong and "Applications/EvolutionMail" is correct? | 08:00 |
| ara | persia: yes | 08:01 |
| persia | Also, there are a couple situations where I would expect to request different sets of per-application tests for different flavours. As an example, both Xubuntu and Ubuntu MID use thunar, but the use cases differ. How should this be indicated? | 08:03 |
| ara | mmm, persia, that's tricky. because at the beginning we decided to go for <flavour>/Applications/<application>, but then heno and davmor2 decided to go for the current one. I don't know why... could you ask them instead? | 08:04 |
| persia | Sure. Neither seems to be around just now, but probably in a couple hours, no? | 08:05 |
| ara | persia: davmor2 should be around in 30 min | 08:06 |
| persia | OK. Is there anything else you think I should know before I start drafting test cases? | 08:06 |
| ara | persia: you can have a look to the spec, in case it provides you with more information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Specs/TestcaseWikiMigration | 08:07 |
| persia | Looking about, I realise I have one other question: what does the "Tester" column indicate on pages like "Ubuntu/Applications"? | 08:09 |
| ara | persia: that page is not longer valid, but it used to mean the person that was in charge of the migration from /Testing/Cases to the new wiki | 08:11 |
| persia | If that page isn't valid, how is one to link the individual test cases to a flavour set? | 08:13 |
| ara | persia: I guess (just guessing) that the same one (maybe without the tester column) should be ok | 08:25 |
| persia | That makes perfect sense. Thanks a lot. I'll start framing a flavour, and poke davmor2 about how to handle specific cases on a flavour basis when he shows up. | 08:25 |
| ara | persia: cool. I am subscribed to the whole wiki, if I see something weird, I'll let you know :) | 08:30 |
| persia | Thanks! | 08:31 |
| persia | davmor2, Good morning. ara says you understand about how to identify test cases for the testcase wiki. | 08:35 |
| davmor2 | persia: I do indeed | 08:35 |
| davmor2 | Why? | 08:36 |
| persia | So, I'm adding testing overviews for a couple more flavours, and wondered how to handle cases where the usage of an application differed due to differences in the environment (e.g. thunar for Xubuntu vs. Ubuntu MID). | 08:36 |
| persia | I'm guessing that each flavour only wants a subset of the test cases listed under the application, but I'm not sure how to indicate that. | 08:36 |
| davmor2 | persia: Right at the minute the way things are working is as follows. | 08:37 |
| davmor2 | 1: all applications go to /applications | 08:38 |
| davmor2 | 2: you then make up a test plan under /testplans which pulls in the installation and apps you require testing | 08:39 |
| davmor2 | 3: on the whole people won't test every app so pick between 3-5 (hopefully these will be randomised by a script schwuk is writing) | 08:40 |
| persia | Under /testplans? Is that /Plans? Also, how does that relate to the links on the front page to /Ubuntu and /Kubuntu? | 08:41 |
| davmor2 | Tags for install cases are made up of xxx-111 where xxx=3 letters that tie into the case (eg ubiquity whole drive install becomes uwi) and 111 becomes 001 etc for each testnumber for each set of letters in a case | 08:42 |
| davmor2 | persia: that was an old attempt that got dropped | 08:43 |
| persia | OK. So if I want to create a set of cases for a flavour, where should I start? | 08:44 |
| davmor2 | persia: /testplans isn't in till we get some cases together | 08:44 |
| persia | that page doesn't exist yet | 08:45 |
| persia | So, I should wait? | 08:45 |
| davmor2 | persia: look at /Install most of them are now complete | 08:45 |
| davmor2 | persia: /testplans can just be added but at the moment there are no apps to put to it | 08:46 |
| persia | Right. /Install, /System, and /Applications all look sane. What I seek is more how to collect a set together to describe what needs testing for a given flavour. | 08:46 |
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| davmor2 | the general idea will be that the /testplan page just contains a whole bunch of includes lines | 08:49 |
| davmor2 | I'll link to an old example for you | 08:49 |
| persia | Which would include specific test cases, or applications to test? | 08:49 |
| davmor2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Ubuntu/LiveCd/LiveSession Here is an example if you hit edit you'll get the drift | 08:50 |
| davmor2 | persia: For us it means that we only need to update 1 test for an app rather than the entire testcase | 08:51 |
| persia | I see the advantage, and using includes makes sense. I'm just trying to understand how to generate the set of things to test for a specific flavour, and where to put it. | 08:51 |
| davmor2 | Right so the way the test plans will work is thus. /Testplans/XubuntuLiveCd would be a page of plans that is just includes lines. It will pull in 1 Live cd install case + 3-5 apps that are specific to Xubuntu so thunar, thunderbird and abiword as examples | 08:56 |
| persia | OK. Now, how ought the differences in testing thunar for Xubuntu and Ubuntu MID be indicated? | 08:57 |
| davmor2 | persia: None needed. The codebase is the same. However each testplan will have it's own test number. So thunar under XUB-001 thu-001 would be different to thunar under MID-001 thu-001 but all the results for thunar can be pulled together etc | 09:00 |
| davmor2 | hope that makes sense it did in my head | 09:01 |
| persia | Now I'm very confused. Are there then two pages of thunar tests which are included? | 09:01 |
| davmor2 | 3 pages of results can be drawn a test for thunar from results for thu-001 and then result for indvidual cases for xubuntu and mid | 09:02 |
| davmor2 | need to go for a bit bbl | 09:03 |
| persia | OK. Catch me when you're back, as I still don't think I understand. I'll prep an example for discussion then. | 09:03 |
| davmor2 | persia: ping | 09:30 |
| persia | davmor2, I've put together a small example that illustrates the two ways that I could understand the structure at http://paste.ubuntu.com/116733/ | 09:32 |
| persia | Are either of these correct, or are you envisioning something else? | 09:33 |
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| * ara -> lunch | 12:43 | |
| * davmor2 working lunch nothing better to do :) | 12:44 | |
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| cgregan | Does anyone out there have an Intrepid instance running in qemu with resolution over 800x600? | 20:07 |
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