[00:00] charlie [00:07] How do I view gb2312 encoded websites?? I guess I need the font? [00:11] fbc, do you have a site i can go and look at it, so i can see hoe it behaves here? [00:12] http://mexicoetal.com/zh [00:12] fbc: maybe, you may also need to adjust the languages you accept in your browser prefs... in ff it is 'content' tab of the prefs [00:13] it dispays vine here at me. both ff and seamonkey [00:14] fbc go to wikipedia.org and see if it can dispays all characters on start page [00:15] yeas some look ok, but others are garbled.. [00:17] fbc try to install msttcorefonts [00:17] for a start [00:19] nikolam, i cold see the wikipedia page just fine... but I'm installing the mst package anyways. === Flare1833 is now known as Flare183 [00:20] fbc, I myself have some languages characters not dispayed at wikipedia page but jus a few at the bottom. [00:20] I know my problem.. I need to convert the encoding on my website to UTF-8. It's mixed GB2312 and UTF-8 and the gb2312 stuff is what is showing up like garbaage. [00:21] fbc mostly character problem is due to web site designer not using unicode on all page content. They can be contacted about this. [00:21] fbc Thar is right :) [00:21] I need to figure out how to convert from gb2312 to utf-8 chinese characters. [00:21] I use UTF everywhere, anyway :) Ћао, где си :) [00:22] fbc maybe just saving files in editor like in UTF? [00:23] hmm, I don't think it will be that easy.. [00:23] anyway, utf is way to go. [00:55] qgtkstyle is nice, finally all the kde/qt applications look good in gnome [02:09] Uber: http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uberdesktopba4.png [02:25] Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package. [02:25] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [02:25] is only available from another source [02:25] why???? [02:35] !medibuntu | xenocide21_ [02:35] xenocide21_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [02:35] the !medibuntu repo has opera [02:44] =/ [02:46] i dont get it... [02:46] * xenocide21_ is a noob >.> [02:46] damn xfce for not having its own web browser like all the rest of the GUI's [02:54] xenocide21_: add the medibuntu repo... then you can install opera. as opera is in the medibunti repo... [02:56] * xenocide21_ doesnt know how [02:57] all i know how to do is Source Mage GNU/Linux =/ and even that i have limited knowledge in, i dont know much about any other distros [02:57] http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/721000774939/ [03:05] hrm [03:06] need to re install flash to work with konqueror, and i forgot the package name for flash, anyone know it? [03:17] good evening [03:18] looking for some help with ubunto 8.10 server [03:18] can anyone answer a few ?;s [03:18] You can try here, but may have more luck on #ubuntu-server [03:19] ok cool ill try there thanks charlie [04:18] Can anyone tell me how to get my USB numpad to work? [04:38] good evening all [04:39] hey ho [04:39] I am having an issue installing xubuntu 8 on an MSI MS-6131 with a bios from 98 but it will not recognize the hdd [04:40] pnp is disabled already and no change [04:40] maybe try the alt install [04:41] thats what I had to do with this old toshiba lappy [04:41] So what are the bluetooth utils that should work with xubuntu? [04:41] thanks mr-t--- i'll try that [04:41] sorry I am bluetooth ingnorant [04:41] anyone please help me ... i have problem installing lgtk-x11-2.0 [04:42] How to install gtk-x11-2.0 package? [04:43] How to install gtk-x11-2.0 package? [04:43] and the error is.... [04:44] any idea? [04:45] mr-t--- it keeps saying BIOS cutoff 2000 and my version is 1998, is that of any concern? [04:45] what errors are you getting? [04:45] I dunno [04:46] thanks anyway [04:46] can you update your bios? [04:47] Can anyone tell me how to get my USB numpad to work? [04:47] since my bios is 2000 I couldn't say for sure [04:48] what's ausb numpad? [04:48] So what are the bluetooth utils that should work with xubuntu? [04:49] Doesn't the xubuntu project include bluetooth programs? [04:50] I am having difficulty finding a BIOS update due to the age of the system, MSI does not recognize the system on their website! [04:50] How to install gtk-x11-2.0 package? [04:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/116692/ [04:52] fbc look here http://linuxchronicles.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/bluetooth-in-xubuntu-804/ [04:55] txDEF: did you try the alt anyway? [04:58] How to install gtk-x11-2.0 package? [04:59] trying but not very familar with the alt install, where can I get instructions on that? [05:00] go to the xubuntu site and download a copy of the alt cd burn and install [05:01] ah that kind of alt install, okay thanks mr-t--- [05:02] yw [05:02] #gtk [05:07] #gdk [05:24] rocko: ok, just got some advice in #ubunut to install ext2 driver for windows, then create a partion on my drive in NTFS and keep the driver there for later installs on other machines. :) [05:24] thanks, bye [05:36] How to install gtk-x11-2.0 package? [06:24] #gtk [08:09] hi there all i am having some trouble with my xubuntu install when i load it there are no panels and i cant right click on the desk top i can get to a tty and suggestions please [08:27] i am running xubuntu in xcfe desktop. i tried to install a tetris game named 2h4u and the installer gave me the message:dependency is not satisfiable: libc6. I tried also to install another game named pychess (chess game) and the installer gave the message:dependency is not satisfiable: python-central. Any idea on what can i do to isnatll the games? [08:35] how are you trying to install these games? [08:37] they are deb packages. i doubleclicked on them and opened the isntaller dialog. [08:38] where did you get them from? [08:38] from here: http://www.getdeb.net/ [08:38] just because something is a .deb doesn't mean that it will be installable in xubuntu [08:39] the 2h4u is here: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Too+Hard+For+You [08:40] how could i know if it is installable or not? [08:41] they offer 4 versions there, are you sure you got the right one? [08:42] i 've got the files form here http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=tetris [08:43] the 2 downloadable files 2h4u.deb and *data.deb [08:44] data file is easy installable but the 2h4u.deb smallest package gave me the message about libc6 [08:45] are you sure you got the right version? If you are running 32 bit, you'll need the 32 bit version, if your running intrepid you'll need the intprepid package... [08:58] ok thanks [08:59] hi [09:00] Sorry, there is an editor C/C++ on Xubuntu ?? [09:25] Pet^Aw try installing kate. [09:25] to use the embedded console in kate install also konsole [09:25] sudo apt-get install kate konsole === jevin_ is now known as jevin [09:28] jevin: you missed him by 20 minutes [09:29] hi i am having trouble with my xubuntu machine it loads most of the way but sits at the desktop showing icons but no panels i cant click icons or right click the desk top all i ca do is get to a tty can any one help please [10:05] nvm i shall reinstall === worms is now known as wormsxulla [11:02] http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/08/2043206&from=rss === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [16:05] ive upgraded to jaunty, im not seeing where i can editing the right click menu anymore, is it not possible anymore? [16:08] You may change the appearance of the Main Menu (Applications) with the menu editor. Launch it with Applications → Settings → Settings Manager → Menu Editor. [16:08] i see no menu editor [16:08] :( [16:13] anyone here? [16:14] * genii hands diginux a coffee [16:16] I think settings for the right-clcik menu are under Desktop. As for the Menu Editor, it may not have caught up to Jaunty yet [16:16] There are still some missing items. Do you have Synaptic Package Manager? [16:18] charlie-tca: yeah, when i run xfce4-menueditor, it says, install xfdesktop4 for that command, but it is already installed.. [16:18] It should come later then. It is, after all, still alpha. There are some difficulties yet [16:19] well damn :( [16:19] the default menu is super annoying [16:19] i guess ill just have to edit by hand [16:19] Boy, do I know that one [16:20] I keep hoping to get VirtualBox working again. [16:20] did yours break too? [16:21] Yeah, I can't seem to get it to work again, in Jaunty [16:21] after i upgraded it didnt work for me, so i had to basically delete .VirtualBox and start over [16:21] yeah, no log either, just click start and it just flickered on then off right again [16:21] and no way to find a debug message or anything [16:21] I been trying to avoid that. I have about 20 different installs in it [16:22] Mine said it was missing the VBox kernel image [16:22] yeah, i even tried moving the folder, making a new system image, then copying the old image over, didnt work [16:22] oh hmm [16:22] your error sounds different [16:22] Still = broken [16:22] maybe try uninstalling all the virtualbox stuff then reinstall so it forces it to rebuild the kernel parts [16:23] Using ??; I don't know that apt-get reinstall ???? will work. Synaptic Package Manager disappeared yesterday [16:24] My internet connection is down to under 300kbs today. Normally it is 600kbs [16:25] Maybe after I get today's ISO images, I will try again [16:25] charlie-tca: i used synaptic, i dont know the actual name of the pcakges for vbox, i just removed everything that had virtual box that was installed [16:26] Yeah, that's my point. I can't use Synaptic, because it went away [16:27] It's just like magic, poof, it's gone today [16:27] y [16:31] if you open a console and type synaptic, what does it say? [16:32] not found, needs to be installed... [16:32] do sudo apt-get install synaptic [16:32] More important: why did it go away? It was installed until the updates [16:36] hi y'all, when extracting an archive, is there a way to que other archives? example, when using winxp, to extract a season of lost i just searched the folder with all the episodes for *.r01 and the selected all to extract on desktop.. [16:38] charlie-tca: not sure, mine stayed installed, could have some weird dependency thing [16:38] well, *#$% [16:38] johan12: unrar e *.r00 or unrar e *.rar has worked for me [16:39] johan12: yo could do find . -name *.r01 | xargs -n1 unrar x [16:39] ymmv [16:39] what I mean is that unrar "recurses" to the other files [16:39] if you pick the right one to unrar [16:40] no similair way with file roller or xarchive? [16:40] hi, there is a textual editor C/C++ (with text color , line numbers....) for Xubuntu ?? [16:41] Pet^Aw: plenty [16:41] johan12: I'd suspect fileroller recurses similarly, since it actually is only a frontend to unzip, unrar, gunzip etc. [16:43] Pet^Aw: lots of editors have all that, some may have things like line numbers as an option not on by default [16:43] Myrtti: Ok [16:43] Pet^Aw: eclipse has c/c++ bindings [16:44] Pet^Aw: starting from nano to vi/vim to emacs, continuing with editra, eclipse, gedi [16:44] diginux: ok [16:44] there's probably more text editors for coders than any other app [16:45] the old joke in the world is, after all, that every programmer codes a text editor for themselves as their first thing [16:45] okok [16:45] :-) [16:45] I personally prefer emacs and editra [16:45] but gedit don't run on Xubuntu ? [16:45] again, your mileage may vary [16:45] Pet^Aw: why wouldn't it? [16:46] diginux: will "find . -name *.r01 | xargs -n1 unrar x" unrar archives in subfoldes? [16:46] Pet^Aw: it's not installed by default, that's true, but I can't see no reason why it wouldn't run on xubuntu... [16:46] Sure gedit runs on Xubuntu, you just need to install it - sudo apt-get install text-editor , I think [16:46] i read gedit is only for gnome version [16:46] That is the first thing I install [16:47] Pet^Aw: don't believe everything you read :-) [16:47] johan12: it should, id need to test it though [16:47] diginux: just tested it and it worked perfect :D thx a lot [16:47] Myrtti , ok i try to install gedit [16:47] thanks [16:48] johan12: great! [17:09] How do i see what options are used when opening xterm from the Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal link? [17:11] Check the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ [17:11] G-Blunted: I think it is xfce4-term [17:12] oh ya [17:12] not xterm [17:12] but how do i see what options/switches/flags are used when i open it from the menu? [17:12] cause when i open it from my hotkey it looks different [17:12] it's really small and stuff [17:14] you look for 'Exec=xfterm4' === paula23_ is now known as lenoxmo [17:15] that is the menu executable file and options === lenoxmo is now known as lenoxmo1 [17:18] ok [17:21] hey you're right [17:21] that works perfect... [17:21] now ALT+F2 = xfterm4 ... w00t! [17:21] :-) [17:22] * charlie-tca finally got one right [17:26] havn't seen you get one wrong yet! what you talkin about? [17:27] hey what is the 'tca' in your name? [17:27] The other day, I never got one right [17:27] tca refers to my multiple sclerosis support team - TeamCharliesAngels [17:29] DISCLAIMER: also see http://teamcharliesangels.com [17:29] ohh [17:29] Just makes it easier to keep the name straight when it is charlie [17:30] ohh...so your name isn't actually "Charlie" right? [17:31] Name really is "Charlie" [17:31] ohhh [17:31] that's cool.. [17:31] but there are thousands of charlies out there [17:31] seeing my own name helps with my realizing it is me [17:32] good call [17:32] * charlie-tca knows ms causes some short term memory loss [17:33] I've got my own messages in purple so I see by colour they're mine :-) [17:33] how do you do that? [17:33] depends on your client [17:33] I've got my irssi themes [17:34] I'm on XChat [17:37] hey howcome you use Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu? [17:38] Works better on my older hardware [17:38] what is your older hardware? [17:38] xubuntu supplies me with enough of tinkering and fiddling around, and gives me space to adjust my desktop up to my own preferences [17:39] I just retired the PII 400MHz system, now have 866MHz P3, 1.4GHz P4, 2.2GHz amd64 [17:39] Myrtti, Unbuntu doesn't do that? [17:39] * charlie-tca also likes the colors better [17:39] those are pretty old.. [17:39] I am on a 1.4ghz i think.. [17:39] But they work great on Xubuntu [17:40] well that is good... [17:40] did you try them on Ubuntu? [17:40] Yes, several times. I do a lot of testing, so install both Ubuntu and Xubuntu on them often [17:41] G-Bleezy: sure it does, but it also adds a lot of stuff that I don't actually need. Like OpenOffice or Rhythmbox [17:41] ahh [17:41] x2 [17:42] * charlie-tca nods in agreement with Myrtti [17:42] well i guess thats all good reasons for me to use Xubuntu too :) [17:42] I think it is good for everybody. It is cleaner and nicer than Gnome [17:43] at least in my opinion [17:43] install emacs on top of xubuntu and I'm ready to go ;-) [17:44] well, lots of other stuff too, but they I'd have to install on Ubuntu as well [17:44] I do everything in Gedit instead [17:44] my most used apps don't come with any of the distros by default anyway [17:44] I just can't get emacs or vim in my head [17:45] so better to use the easiest to install but most slimmed down and install the necessities on top of that [17:45] so true. I don't remove even close to as much from Xubuntu as Ubuntu to use the stuff I want [17:46] can't live without tasque, gnome-do, terminator, gwibber, screenlets, claws-mail, emacs, latex, auctex, qalculate, rapidsvn etc... [17:51] hmm..i never heard of any of those except emacs [17:51] and terminator is some first person shooter like emulator? [17:54] nope, terminal emulator like xfce4-terminal and gnome-terminal [17:54] a bit more to my liking though === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo [18:58] !x [18:58] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [18:58] !x11 [18:58] !wm [18:58] Sorry, I don't know anything about wm [19:00] Need help with something? [19:23] nothing in particular.. [20:06] hi guys typing this from my laptop, my desktop just froze and doing ctrl+alt+bksp doesn't work what should I do? [20:07] If you tap the caps lock or num lock keys, do the lights blink? [20:08] yep [20:08] on my wireless hub for my mouse and keyboard [20:08] does alt+ctrl+f1 switch you to text console? (alt+ctrl+f7 to go back) [20:09] nope [20:09] you may be left with simply toggling the power... :| [20:09] If you give it a few minutes, it may start working [20:09] try alt+ctrl+sysrq+s and then alt+ctrl+sysrq+b [20:09] It is not completely froze until the lights no longer will work [20:10] that will sync and reboot [20:10] oh, if you have ssh installed, have you tried sshing in? [20:10] wait f1 may not be working becuase of "f lock" [20:10] I am using a "microsoft wireless multimedia keyboard v1.1" [20:11] toggling "F lock" works [20:11] so you are able to get to a console now? [20:11] alt+ctrl+f1 doesn't [20:11] no [20:11] * charlie-tca locks the keyboard up completely when he does it [20:12] how do I press all those keys at once? [20:12] hitting caps/scroll/fn won't really tell you anything if you are using wireless [20:12] yes, all at once [20:12] alienkid: hold down the ALT and CTRL keys and tap F1 [20:12] then let go [20:12] ok [20:13] Got a console! [20:14] so what do I do now? [20:19] Was hoping TheSheep was coming back [20:20] can you log in to that console? [20:22] yeah [20:23] what can I do from here? [20:23] I'm thinking... [20:24] sudo killall gdm - hit enter [20:24] that should kill the desktop [20:24] ok [20:24] gdm - hit enter [20:25] that should restart gdm and you can log in to the desktop [20:25] soulh it have taken me to the log in screen? [20:25] sould [20:25] yes, it should [20:25] If it did not give any errors [20:26] well I am still at the console [20:26] okay. type 'ps -A | more' and hit enter [20:26] don't type the quotes [20:27] ok [20:27] hit space to go through the list and find gdm. You need the number on the right of gdm [20:27] left of gdm [20:28] q quits the listing [20:28] ok [20:28] now use 'sudo kill NUMBER' hit enter [20:29] then try relaunching gdm [20:29] then 'sudo gdm' and hit enter [20:29] should get a login screen [20:29] ok that worked now I am at gdm [20:30] Now you can go ahead and login [20:30] That restarted the desktop. [20:30] splash then freeze [20:30] that's bad [20:30] LOL [20:31] you think! [20:31] sould I try that alt+sysrq thing mentioned above? [20:31] sure. then go back to alt+ctrl+f1 [20:32] ok did this alt+sysrq+s then while holding alt+sysrq and releasing S hit B and it rebooted [20:33] Okay, you should be able to get back in when it comes back [20:33] tell you more whee it's at usplash(if it gets that far) [20:33] okay [20:34] Grub -> kernal X.yz.a or Kernal x.yz.a(recovery)? [20:34] X.yz.a first. If it hangs again, then recovery [20:34] hello [20:34] !hi [20:34] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [20:34] i just plugged in a SD card and got a lot of errosr in dmesg [20:35] mmc0: Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt. ... register dump .... register dump.... mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card [20:35] i'm using 8.10 64bit [20:35] ok charlie It got to gdm same thing logged in got past splash screen and freeze currently in alt+ctrl+f1 [20:37] maybe it just needs time to get to the desktop. ALT+F7 takes you back to it [20:37] ok [20:38] back to desktop but just like when I came in here, mouse won't move. [20:40] I don't get this it was working fine yesterday booted to desktop from power in like 2 mins now this [20:40] *power on [20:43] alienkid: do you get to the desktop? [20:43] Turn off compiz [20:43] oh yes the desktop is there and everything it's just completely unresponsive [20:44] compiz isn't installed [20:44] Wireless mouse, right? [20:44] yes but just pluged in another one and it won't move [20:44] Try resyncing the mouse to the receiver [20:44] USB [20:45] that was my first thought too [20:47] Does ALT+F1 give the drop down menu [20:47] Problem with login , my user name is in english but my default in hebrew , when changing the language in login, it only changes the user-readable messages on the screen, not the language of the input field -- that is stuck on Hebrew. This issue is also described here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-660830.html !!!Ii is Unsolved!! !!! any hint? [20:48] no [20:48] alienkid: the no is for me? [20:48] I don't think the keyboard is working any more [20:49] no nam it wasn't [20:50] lights blink? [20:51] no, the login is nice, but in is hebrew=the defulte, but my user name is in english font [20:51] so i can not login [20:51] charlie-tca: yes they do, but ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't even work [20:51] Ctrl [20:51] +Alt+del to restart [20:52] go to recovery mode this time [20:52] nope nothing even on a non wireless one [20:52] is it to me? [20:52] Hard reboot tiime? [20:52] recovery mode? [20:52] namzezam: I don't have an answer for you [20:52] alienkid: yes [20:53] ok here goes nothing [20:53] alienkid: good luck [20:53] charlie-tca: do yu know weher should i look for such answer? [20:54] *pushes button* [20:54] what version, namzezam [20:54] Grub -> kernal x.yz.a (recovery) boots [20:54] u see it is critcal problem, and it should be reported, this should never happened [20:54] 8.10 [20:55] namzezam: I agree, it should not happen. It sounds like a locale issue [20:55] yes it is [20:56] in any logout, must be a cheack if the login is posiable [20:56] namzezam: ctrl+alt+f2 [20:56] ok? that makes what? [20:56] log in [20:56] so should I login and started cping my files over to my USB key? [20:56] in terminal mode? local eng? [20:56] alienkid: just a minute [20:56] ok [20:57] namzezam: yes, go to /etc/environment and check the locale [20:58] could u paste here what should be there for me to login in english? [20:58] mine is empty except the path. I only have english installed [21:00] Also gt to /etc/default/locale and check it [21:00] charlie-tca: so i should have it empty or remove that file? [21:00] empty [21:00] cheack to find what? [21:00] empty ok! [21:00] check the language [21:00] ok [21:01] LANGUAGE="en_US:en" [21:01] yes, hope all is nice, otherwise u would see me back , thanks :) [21:01] more? [21:01] now you kill gdm and restart it [21:02] now i am in winodows, [21:02] oh [21:02] yes, i have no any other way to login [21:03] so, if all is nice u would not see me, if i have problem when following your instruction, u would see me back for here [21:03] okay [21:03] thanks [21:03] alienkid: squirming baby [21:04] yes? [21:04] Yeah, can't type and hold the kid at the same time. [21:04] Handed him off, now [21:04]