[00:00] <mefisto__> what about http://localhost:631/ in a browser?
[00:00] <_2> correction.  i'm    >| |< this close to   migrating to debian lenny.
[00:01] <mefisto__> what about upgrading to hardy?
[00:02] <_2> not a chance.
[00:02] <mefisto__> why?
[00:02] <_2> mefisto__ what kind of authentication does cups http access use ?
[00:03] <_2> mefisto__ because i have debian lenny on disk and i'm on dialup.
[00:03] <mefisto__> ok
[00:03] <mefisto__> you could order new disks for free
[00:04] <_2> it's asking for username and password.    howto set the cups password ?
[00:04] <_2> ok. i'll be blunt.  i prefer debian.
[00:04] <mefisto__> just the same as sudo, use your user/pass
[00:05] <_2> ah that's why.  i don't have a pasword
[00:05] <mefisto__> so how were you doing sudo?
[00:05] <_2> sudo echo boo
[00:05] <_2> boo
[00:05] <_2> cat /etc/sudoers
[00:05] <_2> ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[00:06] <_2> i'll have to unlock an account and test with a password i guess
[00:07] <_2> nope no change.  just loops back to the username/password screen
[00:09] <_2> cat /usr/bin/sudo
[00:09] <_2> sudo.real -u superusers_real_name "$@"
[00:10] <_2> maybe i should make that more robust.  it could parse for -u and omit the "-u superusers_real_name" if it finds it.
[00:19] <mossgix> hi there :)
[00:21] <_2> ok i have hacked sudo to work propperly.   i could actually setup the sudoers file and use it...
[00:21] <mefisto__> does admin mode work now in kcontrol?
[00:21] <_2> but kcontrol admin button is still malfunctioning.
[00:21] <mefisto__> hmm
[00:23] <mado> oi guys and gals ... hello there ...
[00:24] <mado> can anyone please help me ... maybe talking privately to me ... i don't understand how to use "strigi" ... all i have noticed so far ... "strigi" helps me find some files doesn't it?
[00:25] <mefisto__> mado: intrepid?
[00:25] <mado> erm ... yes mefisto__ ... i use intrepid ... 8.10 kubuntu
[00:25] <mado> why do you ask mefisto__ ?
[00:25] <mefisto__> start the daemon first: strigidaemon &
[00:26] <mefisto__> then: strigiclient
[00:26] <mado> i started it with -> /usr/bin/strigiclient
[00:26] <mefisto__> did that start the daemon? could you do any searches?
[00:26] <mado> no :)
[00:27] <mado> ok ... now i try to start the daemon thing
[00:27] <mado> mefisto__, ... no window pops up
[00:28] <mefisto__> mado: it will run in the background
[00:28] <mefisto__> start the client, start indexing, then when it's done that it should be able to search
[00:28] <mado> uhuu ... ok ... i started the daemon thing with the command you showed me ... i put it in my kmenu
[00:29] <mado> ok ... just a sec mefisto__ ... i'm trying it out
[00:30] <mado> strigi client takes some time to load
[00:30] <_2> i'll post the sudo wrapper script though.   it's not a bad idea.     http://pastebin.com/f53d8dd21
[00:31] <mado> how long will the "indexing"-process take?
[00:32] <_2> actually,   seeing that someone might know what a wrapper is/does.   i added an instruction.   http://pastebin.com/f28c83c6a
[00:32] <mado> funny thing mefisto__ ... the counter for "documents indexed" for example still shows me 0
[00:32] <_2> might not+ even
[00:32] <mado> am i doing something wrong? mefisto__
[00:32] <mado> unique words indexed = -1
[00:32] <mefisto__> mado: depends on how many files you have. by default it just indexes your home dir, excluding some system files
[00:33] <mado> well ... i told it that it should index my home dir and one folder on another partition
[00:33] <mado> but it still shows me "0" mefisto__
[00:34] <mado> it looks like it doesn't work at all
[00:34] <mefisto__> does status say indexing
[00:34] <mado> yes
[00:34] <mado> status = indexing
[00:35] <mado> maybe nepomuk's settings are stopping it?
[00:35] <mefisto__> are there directories listed that it's indexing?
[00:36] <mado> yes ... both in strigi and nepomuk ... but oi ... can we both check if there is something wrong with nepomuk?
[00:37] <mefisto__> mine says "strigi service not running" but strigiclient seems to work
[00:37] <mefisto__> I should tell you this is on kde 4.2
[00:38] <mado> ".*/"   ".*"   "*~"   "*.part"   these are the four things that are in the "exclude"-section ... i didn't mess arount with it
[00:38] <mado> oh! ... hmm ... yesterday somebody told me i should be careful and wait for kde4.2
[00:38] <mado> a more stable one
[00:39] <mefisto__> that's what I have, and the index folders are just home dir and subdirs
[00:39] <mado> subdirs? ... do i have to tell strigi this too?
[00:40] <mado> because ... whenever i try to add a subdir ... it doesn't show up in the list :)
[00:40] <mado> do you suggest installing kde4.2?
[00:40] <mado> or do you also say that i should wait?
[00:40] <mefisto__> mado: in the nepomuk settings, there is a directory tree, with tickboxes. mine has home and everything under it ticked
[00:41] <mefisto__> mado: 4.2 is a huge improvement, but everyone seems to have hiccups with the upgrade
[00:42] <mefisto__> mine was a fresh intrepid install, I immediately did the 4.2 upgrade first thing
[00:42] <mefisto__> the only problem I had was gwenview wouldn't start. I removed it, then installed it again, and everything was fine
[00:42] <mado> what do you think? ... should i try it too?
[00:43] <mefisto__> some people with nvidia have had screenres problems after upgrade too
[00:44] <mado> oh! ... i've got some nvidia-stuff in this computer
[00:44] <mefisto__> mado: have you tried virtualbox? you could do an install in that to try it, decide if its' worth the hassle
[00:45] <mado> no ... have never used virtualbox ever before :)
[00:45] <mado> i just don't get it why the "indexing"-process never works / never worked
[00:47] <gorgonizer> mado: I have nvidia and had no problems with the upgrade..
[00:47] <gorgonizer> well, no major problems, jus tto correct myself..
[00:47] <_2> well i got the the bottom of the printer issue.  stupid system thought it was a "network printer"
[00:47] <mado> what does that mean gorgonizer ? :)
[00:48] <mado> mefisto__, looks like i can't use strigi :) ... it won't work
[00:49] <gorgonizer> well, there appear to be a few packages that contain the same file, so when installed the second package moans that the file is already there, and fails to install.  There is a dpkg option which corrects this, so the problem was minor. :)
[00:50] <khalid> como puedo entrar a la sala de ubuntu-es
[00:50] <khalid> por fa
[00:51] <mado> "/join #ubuntu-es" khalid
[00:51] <mado> without -> "
[00:51] <mado> sin -> "
[00:52] <mado> gorgonizer, ... i think i can live with that ... at least when someone helps me with this problem ... i'm a beginner
[00:53] <gorgonizer> no problem, I should be able to assist if required..
[00:53] <khalid> vale gracias
[00:53] <mado> ¡de nada! khalid
[00:54] <gorgonizer> I think with the newer versions of the kde 4.2 packages the only issue is between a koffice package and the oygen package..
[00:54] <mado> uhuu ... i don't use koffice at the moment
[00:55] <gorgonizer> then there should be no problem with the upgrade :)
[00:55] <mado> i hope so ...
[00:55] <zedoctor> if i install kubuntu kde, is it still easy to use my normal desktop?
[00:55] <zedoctor> my gnome destop
[00:55] <mado> because i finally want this whole thing more and more to work :)
[00:55] <gorgonizer> zedoctor: on the chosen login screen you will be able to choose Gnome or KDE..
[00:55] <zedoctor> yey,
[00:56] <gorgonizer> mado: as mentioned previously, kde 4.2 is a big improvement on 4.1..
[00:56] <mado> well ... you must know that i'm a bit more afraid of some updates and so on ...
[00:57] <mado> :)
[00:57] <zedoctor> i like how simple my unbuntu standard 8.10 install is. it's a big improvement since i last used redhat years ago
[00:57] <gorgonizer> mado: I was to begin with, but I learned over time that using the command line to update and upgrade allows you to see more errors...
[00:57] <gorgonizer> mado: assuming htere are any..
[00:58] <mado> gorgonizer, ... can you help me with that? -> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 ...
[00:58] <mado> it says -> 4. Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids.
[00:58] <mado> which of the things i have are old?
[00:58] <mado> how should i know that?
[00:59] <kdhein> Hi all, I am a long time (K)ubuntu/linux user and am having a bizzarre booting problem I could really use some assistance with.  Anyone want to try and help me?
[00:59] <mado> oi there kdhein ... haven't i seen you yesterday too? :)
[00:59] <mado> gorgonizer, ?
[01:00] <gorgonizer> mado: they would all be considered to be old I think..., though I am not sure how true that issue is tbh... but at the command line do  sudo apt-get purge kdeplasmoids
[01:01] <kdhein> mado: probably not, I do not usually hang out on IRC
[01:01] <mado> erm gorgonizer ... it did nothing
[01:01] <mado> it says ...
[01:01] <mado> Paket kdeplasmoids ist nicht installiert, wird also auch nicht entfernt
[01:01] <gorgonizer> mado: in that case, don't worry,  have you ran the gpg command
[01:01] <mado> :)
[01:01] <mado> yes
[01:02] <gorgonizer> and added the repository?
[01:02] <mado> yes
[01:02] <mado> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... gorgonizer ?
[01:02] <gorgonizer> if so, run   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:03] <gorgonizer> or yours, I am not sure, overall, if there would be a difference..
[01:03] <gorgonizer> mado: let me know if an error occurs during the upgrade process.. :)
[01:03] <gorgonizer> kdhein: what problem are you having on boot?
[01:03] <mado> well ... i'll take yours ... because you said you've done it before ... of course gorgonizer :)
[01:04] <kdhein> gorgonizer: I can boot to a recovery console just fine, but normal boot does not work
[01:04] <kdhein> it seems to be booting up fine and then I see some strange segfaults
[01:04] <kdhein> then X fails
[01:04] <kdhein> stty fails
[01:04] <kdhein> so you can't get in anything to poke around
[01:05] <gorgonizer> kdhein: if you boot in recovery mode, does X start?
[01:05] <kdhein> I have a 2nd drive that is older that I am running on now and can mount the 'bad' drive to look at logs but nothing is jumping out at me
[01:06] <kdhein> gorgonizer: recovery do not do X
[01:06] <kdhein> I did not try to do an kdm/startx from root prompt
[01:07] <kdhein> I first suspicioned filesystem corruption but fsck came back clean
[01:07] <gorgonizer> kdhein: ahh no worries.. in dmesg does it show the segfaults, if, it does what is beforehand?
[01:07] <kdhein> and I have not come across any trouble reading anything form the drive when booted from something else
[01:07] <kdhein> jas
[01:08] <gorgonizer> jas?
[01:09] <gorgonizer> kdhein: do you have more than one kernel installed?  If so, does error occur with all kernels?
[01:09] <kdhein> gorgonizer: how do I get dmesg to display a specific log?  IE dmesg /media/sdb2/var/log/dmesg
[01:09] <kdhein> yes, I get same thing with multiple kernels (did not try them all)
[01:10] <gorgonizer> kdhein: grep the dmesg for sbd2 (if that is the drive in question)
[01:10] <kdhein> Feb 11 17:34:24 kdhein kernel: [   41.373762] device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3
[01:10] <kdhein> Feb 11 17:34:24 kdhein kernel: [   41.373794] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.12.0-ioctl (2007-10-02) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
[01:10] <kdhein> Feb 11 17:34:24 kdhein kernel: [   43.481559] ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
[01:10] <kdhein> Feb 11 17:34:24 kdhein kernel: [   43.693764] chmod[5037]: segfault at 4c9a23e9 eip 0805251b esp bfde1be4 error 6
[01:10] <kdhein> Feb 11 17:34:24 kdhein kernel: [   43.732629] chmod[5044]: segfault at 4c7f4a39 eip 0805251b esp bfc34234 error 6
[01:10] <kdhein> Feb 11 17:34:24 kdhein kernel: [   43.742371] chmod[5054]: segfault at 4cb39d89 eip 0805251b esp bff79584 error 6
[01:10] <kdhein> Feb 11 17:34:24 kdhein kernel: [   43.763163] chmod[5057]: segfault at 4c5700c9 eip 0805251b esp bf9af8c4 error 6
[01:10] <kdhein> Feb 11 17:34:24 kdhein kernel: [   43.834224] chmod[5083]: segfault at 4cb64d79 eip 0805251b esp bffa4574 error 6
[01:10] <kdhein> there are some of the segfaults
[01:10] <_2> nice flood
[01:11] <kdhein> sorry my IRC etiquette is not so good
[01:11] <mado> _2, don't sweat it :)
[01:12] <mado> it won't slop the bathtube :)
[01:12] <mado> will it?
[01:12] <_2> !paste
[01:12] <mado> sorry ... i've always wanted to say something like that :)
[01:13] <mado> i know that there are these paste-rules
[01:13] <quadaptor> exists a command thats extract n bytes from the middle (= a specified position) of a file, like tail/head?  e.g. command -s 35 -b 29  => extract 29 bytes from byte/position 35 (starts at 29. byte)
[01:13] <_2> quadaptor dd
[01:13] <gorgonizer> kdhein: have you ran a memcheck at all?
[01:13] <SuspectZero> how big do u guys recommend the /boot partition be?
[01:14] <_2> SuspectZero 200m
[01:14] <kdhein> gorgonizer: yes, I made it all the way through 1.5 passes on the 3gig I have and no trouble
[01:15] <gorgonizer> hmmm, as I asked my friend to have a look, and he indicated it could be memory or hard drive..
[01:15] <SuspectZero> thanks _2
[01:15] <kdhein> that is all I could find all dday too...
[01:16] <kdhein> I also found that /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume referenced a wrong UUID that I fixed as well but still can't boot
[01:17] <mado> gorgonizer, ... there is / are (an) error/s
[01:17] <gorgonizer> mado, what error did you receive?
[01:18] <mado> i don't really know ... but here ... have a look ... -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117075/
[01:18] <mado> line 16 and 75
[01:19] <mado> there is the word "fehler" which means "error"
[01:19] <gorgonizer> mado: I understand a bit of german, so what you need to do is   sudo spkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb
[01:19] <gorgonizer> *dpkg..
[01:19] <gorgonizer> kdhein: so fsck found no problems on the disc?
[01:20] <kdhein> correct
[01:20] <_2> badblocks it
[01:20] <mado> gorgonizer, -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117076/
[01:21] <mado> gorgonizer, as far as i can see i need to install some newer versions of some stuff
[01:21] <gorgonizer> mado: do    sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:23] <kdhein> _2: do I need to specify any special options?  or just #badblocks /dev/sdb2
[01:23] <_2> just
[01:23] <mado> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117077/ ... i guess the interessting lines are from line 178 downards
[01:23] <kdhein> ok, it been running a bit, but it is like a 75gig partition
[01:23] <mado> or do you say "downwards" gorgonizer ? ... you know what i mean i guess
[01:25] <gorgonizer> mado: I tend to say whatever my mind decides would be amusing at the time tbh, but anyways, redo  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:25] <_2> mado line  178 +
[01:25] <mado> thanks _2 *smiling at her/him*
[01:26] <quassel136> HI
[01:26] <_2> mado heh.  just speak geek, it's universal.
[01:26] <mado> yeah ... but i haven't learned it so far :) ...
[01:27] <khalid> algien sabe algo de python
[01:27] <mado> my mother-tongue is german and i learn english since i'm 3 years old
[01:27] <mado> gorgonizer, -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117078/
[01:27] <gorgonizer> mado: I wish we English wouuld take foreign languages more seriously...
[01:27] <quassel136> hey, my synaptic touchpad not work in kubuntu 9.04 alpha 4
[01:27] <quassel136> :S
[01:28] <mado> and one more thing _2 :)) ... -> better geek than 1337 :)
[01:28] <_2> quassel61 #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <gorgonizer> mado: nice tree of error there :)  try running sudo spkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1 again for me..
[01:30] <gorgonizer> mado: if that fails, do   sudo apt-get -f install
[01:31] <mado> unfortunately i haven't learned some other foreign laguages yet ... but i really want to try and learn at least another one ... ... ... what did you mean with your sentence gorgonizer ... why aren't the english taking foreign languages more seriously?
[01:31] <gorgonizer> mado: to many of we English think that all nations should speak English, to make it easier for us ;)
[01:32] <mado> gorgonizer, -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117082/
[01:32] <quassel136> Mmmm
[01:32] <gorgonizer> mado: I wish the English would have a different mindset..
[01:32]  * _2 wishes that gorgonizer would speak english, "to make it easier for us ;)"
[01:33] <mado> isn't it english she/he is talking _2 ?
[01:33] <quassel136> "...all nations should speak english"??
[01:33] <gorgonizer> _2: apologies :)
[01:33] <zedoctor> all nations should speak the same language, i'll agree with that
[01:33] <mado> that'll be a bit complicated zedoctor :)
[01:33] <quassel136> I'm Speak Español...
[01:34] <gorgonizer> mado: apologies, I missed the end   sudo spkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb
[01:34] <zedoctor> i vote german, 'caz it sounds cool when your angry
[01:34] <_2> mado. it was just a joke.  referance to bad grammar
[01:34] <mefisto__> all nations should speak C++
[01:34] <mado> english for example have difficulties in pronouncing the audible "ch" properly :)
[01:34] <mado> _2, uhuu :))
[01:34] <quassel136> jajaja
[01:35] <_2> mefisto__ or vanella g33k   [ g33k ] && :) || :(
[01:35] <mefisto__> lets all learn chinese. most people on earth already speak that
[01:35] <gorgonizer> mado: then run    sudo apt-get -f install
[01:35] <mado> and you wrote "spkg" again :)
[01:35] <quassel136> Hey...Speak in Esperanto....this is a universal language
[01:36] <_2> mefisto__ which dialect ?
[01:36] <mado> gorgonizer, -> still some errors :)
[01:36] <mado> mefisto__, :))
[01:36] <gorgonizer> mado: did you try    sudo apt-get -f install?
[01:36] <mado> no ...
[01:36] <mado> should i try it because it failed?
[01:36] <zedoctor> memory used 1.4/4. YEY.
[01:37] <gorgonizer> mado: yes please :)
[01:37] <mado> ok
[01:37] <zedoctor> 1.4 gb/4 gb
[01:37] <mado> well then ...
[01:37] <mado> here goes nothing :)
[01:37] <mado> woh! ... it does something
[01:38] <gorgonizer> mado: most things do, given time ;)
[01:38] <mado> gorgonizer, ... something for you -> :))
[01:38] <mado> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117087/
[01:40] <mado> *waiting for new orders* gorgonizer :)
[01:40] <gorgonizer> mado: that appears, to my untrained eyes, to be error free..
[01:40] <mefisto__> mado: so it completed without errors?
[01:40] <mado> i'm not sure :)
[01:40] <mado> so ... what should i do now?
[01:41] <gorgonizer> mado: redo the upgrade for me :)
[01:41] <mado> ok then gorgonizer *salute*
[01:41] <gorgonizer> mado: it might fail yet, but if it does, that long dpkg command will fix it, then it should complete :)
[01:43] <mado> gorgonizer, -> i spy with my little eye ... no errors? ... can this really be? :) ... -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117089/
[01:43] <gorgonizer> mado: if you have nvidia graphics, how new is the card/chipset?
[01:43] <_2> professional photo quality printing is expensive, at least from what i'm seeing.
[01:43] <mado> erm ... i don't know ... well ... i only know that my notebook has a "nvidia geforce 8600M" in it
[01:43] <_2> mado we can make it error if you want it too   :)
[01:44] <mado> _2, :))
[01:44] <mado> _2, you like errors hm?
[01:44] <_2> keeps me busy
[01:44] <mado> gorgonizer, ... erm ... i don't know ... well ... i only know that my notebook has a "nvidia geforce 8600M" in it
[01:44] <gorgonizer> mado: I think you still need to do that long dpkg command tbh..
[01:44] <zedoctor> freaking mouse accerlaration
[01:44] <mado> i need it?
[01:44] <mado> why?
[01:44] <zedoctor> !!
[01:45] <mado> zedoctor, *laughing a bit*
[01:45] <zedoctor> how do turn it off in kde 4.2 ?
[01:45] <gorgonizer> mado: from perusing the last couple of pages of pastebin, I cannot see kde-window-manager being installed/upgraded..
[01:45] <_2> kcontrol ?
[01:45] <zedoctor> ta
[01:45] <mefisto__> zedoctor: systemsettings, keyboard & mouse
[01:46] <mado> :) wanted to suggest the same thing
[01:46] <mado> wasn't quick enough
[01:46] <zedoctor> sorry, im a recent linux noob. seriously. default mouse accel.. no please dont copy windows
[01:46] <zedoctor> its nausiating
[01:46] <_2> kcontrol should never be phased out
[01:46] <killermach> trying to install a USB printer which already works on Kubuntu.. I removed to rename, now the wizard does not let me pick "Local printer(parallel, serial, USB)"
[01:46] <mado> oh! gorgonizer ... ok ... then ... what is the command i need to type in?
[01:46] <killermach> it's grayed out
[01:47] <cbwcjw> Hey fellas
[01:47] <gorgonizer> mado: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb
[01:47] <mado> i thought it has already upgraded  kde-window-manager
[01:47] <killermach> when I plug it in .. a tail -f /var/log/messages shows it connecting everytime I plug it in
[01:47] <zedoctor> wow reverse mouse accel, now thats trippy
[01:48] <killermach> I just installed it a few minutes ago..
[01:48] <mado> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117091/ gorgonizer :)
[01:48] <gorgonizer> mado: I thought the last time you ran the command above it failed, and the window-manager package was not listed in the upgrade list..
[01:48] <mefisto__> _2: kcontrol is probably just not kde4-ready yet. I'm sure it will be eventually
[01:48] <killermach> what happened to the "Add Printer Wizard"?
[01:48] <mado> uhuu gorgonizer ... what now? -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117091/
[01:49] <gorgonizer> mado: from that, install is complete :) a reboot of the computer should unlock the greatness of kde 4.2 :)
[01:49] <zedoctor> pointer threshold 0 pixels, how it should be!!!
[01:49] <mado> ok ... will you wait for me?
[01:49] <mado> so that i can tell you if it worked :)
[01:49] <gorgonizer> mado: I will be here...
[01:49] <mado> ok ... see you
[01:49] <gorgonizer> cbwcjw: how are you?
[01:49] <mefisto__> killermach: kmenu>system>printers
[01:50] <mado> see you all other gals and guys too :)
[01:50] <EtFb> I'm planning to wipe my Intrepid install and go back to Hardy (because even KDE 4.2 has too many problems) but I notice that suspend, the ATI video driver and the wifi don't work from the Live CD.  Is that normal?  Can I expect things to work better once I install, or is it a warning sign that my Toshiba A300 is too incompatible?
[01:50] <quassel136> any idea how to fix touchpad in kubuntu 9.04 alpha 4?
[01:50] <EtFb> (Note that the video drivers and wifi work in Intrepid, but the suspend doesn't.)
[01:51] <EtFb> quassel136: Does the usual fiddlign around with SHMConfig work?
[01:52] <killermach> mefisto__: I have kmenu-> system-> printing
[01:52] <quassel136> i'm trying everything but this not work
[01:53]  * _2 wonders why photo quality grey scale on photo paper is not an option on his system....
[01:53] <quassel184> I install iBus input method, but I can not active it. please help me, it is emergency
[01:53] <quassel184> I want to input Chinese chat
[01:53] <killermach> mefisto__: I have Basic Server Settings.. and no buttons to press, but some check boxes
[01:54] <killermach> mefisto__: "Apply" and "Revert" are greyed out buttons
[01:54] <mado> gorgonizer, ...
[01:54] <_2> quassel136 the pre-release channel is  #ubuntu+1   they should know something about the alpha/beta in there.
[01:54] <mado> new colors, a new kdm-theme, a new wallpaper, a new k-menu is greeting me :)
[01:54] <gorgonizer> mado: hello :)
[01:55] <gorgonizer> mado: that sounde encouraging...
[01:55] <quassel136> ok, thanks _2
[01:55] <mado> yeah ... let me give you that ... -> gorgonizer -> https://www.blumen.at/_pic/prod/strgemsaisonal3_xl.jpg
[01:55] <EtFb> I have a feeling the reason I can't suspend/hibernate in KDE 4.2 is because there are two conflicting "engines" driving the power control.  How do I find what's making it suspend and fail?
[01:56] <mado> it looks like it's a bit faster too
[01:56] <gorgonizer> mado: thank you :)
[01:56] <mado> :)
[01:56] <EtFb> "If a complete stranger suddenly gives you flowers, don't worry - that's Intrepid."
[01:56]  * EtFb wonders if anyone outside Australia has seen that ad...
[01:57] <mado> pardon EtFb ?
[01:57] <mado> there's a commercial?
[01:57] <_2> huh ?
[01:57] <mefisto__> I'm in Australia and I haven't seen that ad
[01:57]  * _2 guesses that answeres that
[01:57] <EtFb> mado: The original advertisement was for a perfume called Impulse, so it kind of seemed appropriate...
[01:58] <mefisto__> oh, impulse!
[01:58] <mefisto__> hehe
[01:58] <mado> EtFb, i didn't know something of this ad ... but i wanted to express my thanks
[01:58] <mado> it has nothing to do with gorgonizer's perfume :) *laughing a bit*
[01:59] <EtFb> mado: On the internet, nobody knows you smell like a dog...
[01:59] <mado> *laughing again*
[01:59] <mado> well ... *thinking* ...
[02:00] <killermach> something must need to be restarted for printing to see the USB connections
[02:00] <_2> "this is IRC, where men are men,   and women are men,   and little children are FBI agents"
[02:00] <mado> can anyone help me with my webcam too please?
[02:00] <nuno_> Algum purtugues?
[02:00] <nuno_> portugues?
[02:00] <mado> i think i should give it a try to see if it works this time with linux :)
[02:00] <EtFb> _2: ... And someone will one day discover that ALL the child porn sites are being run by law enforcement agencies to trap paedophiles...
[02:01] <EtFb> !pt
[02:01] <EtFb> (Woohoo!  I guessed the country code!)
[02:01] <mado> EtFb, :))
[02:01] <_2> EtFb not all.   some are being ran by law enforcement agents to entertain other law enforcement agents...
[02:02] <mefisto__> killermach: this is what I have: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3259/printov5.png
[02:02] <mado> please ... that's ... *coughing a bit* ... not nice
[02:02] <Agent_bob> but mind you this is not the place for that.
[02:02] <EtFb> So anyhow... is anyone else having trouble with hibernate and suspend since the new kernel came out?
[02:02] <mado> gorgonizer, do you know something about webcams too?
[02:03] <gorgonizer> mado: not really tbh, but which webcam is it?
[02:03] <Agent_bob> !webcam
[02:03] <EtFb> mado: I always got mine to work pretty easily.  Use Apt to get a program called cheese.  It might Just Work (you know, the way they say Ubuntu should).
[02:03] <mado> well ... i only know that it should be a logitech ... but as it is a built-in-model i don't really know for sure
[02:04] <mado> EtFb, ... is there a problem with "ubuntu"?
[02:04] <Agent_bob> lshw | less
[02:04] <Agent_bob> mado ^ hardware list
[02:04] <mado> Agent_bob, --- you're no longer no. 2?
[02:04] <Agent_bob> that's base two
[02:04] <mado> i can only use this list if i know what webcam is built in can't i?
[02:05] <mado> sorry Agent_bob
[02:05] <mado> base 2 ... oi ---
[02:05] <EtFb> mado: Just meant that Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) is kind of meant to solve little hardware problems for you.  In my experience, webcams are easy but microphones are hard.
[02:05] <Agent_bob> mado try it.     lshw | less
[02:05] <mado> you just reminded me of one thing Agent_bob
[02:05] <mado> thank you
[02:07] <mado> typed in the command ...
[02:07] <mado> let's see what we have here
[02:07] <mado> nice command
[02:08] <Agent_bob> mado yes and the arrow keys work + the search functions work      man less     for details
[02:09] <mado> :) i just tried to copy the output into a file :)
[02:09] <mado> isn't that possible too?
[02:10] <Agent_bob> s
[02:10] <Agent_bob> like i said    man less
[02:10] <mado> currently reading it :)
[02:10] <mefisto__> mado: you could use > instead of | to send it to a file
[02:11] <mefisto__> like this:lshw > ~/lshw.txt
[02:11] <mado> and "~/" is my home-dir?
[02:12] <mefisto__> yes
[02:12] <mado> ok ... let's try it out :)
[02:12] <Agent_bob> mado if you just want to redirrect the output of the lshw command   yes    lshw > filename
[02:12] <mefisto__> then you can do: less lshw.txt
[02:13] <Agent_bob> but if you meant    lshw | less    and want to "save" it to a file.    s filename
[02:13] <aPpLeSiA> any one is singapore know the website for loyang point ?
[02:13] <mado> i typed in "sudo lshw > ~/lshw.txt" and opened the file with kate :)
[02:13] <killermach> mefisto__: here is what I get.. differs from you. http://test.myweb.net/printer_shot.jpg
[02:14] <mado> the file has been saved in my home-dir
[02:14] <Agent_bob> we vould get completely stupid and use   echo "`lshw `" | cat > filename ; less filename | less
[02:14] <mefisto__> killermach: is that hardy?
[02:14] <mado> but when i use the "search"-function and write "cam" it doesn't show me something
[02:15] <mado> sorry ... i mean "anything"
[02:15] <mado> what does that do Agent_bob ? :)
[02:15] <mado> should i try it out?
[02:15] <Agent_bob> same as   lshw | less
[02:15] <mado> but? .... where's the catch?
[02:15] <killermach> mefisto__: still on 8.04.1
[02:16] <Agent_bob> just wastes pipes and also prints to a file. filename
[02:16] <mefisto__> killermach: systemsettings, printers
[02:16] <mado> uhuu ... ok ...
[02:16] <killermach> mefisto__: what's odd is I just ran the wizard 10 mins prior.. printer installed and printed.. I removed to install as a new name..
[02:16] <mado> guys and gals ... when i use the search-function it doesn't show me "cam"
[02:16] <killermach> mefisto__: that's where I installed the first time
[02:16] <itan> que tal
[02:16] <mado> anything else i should try to find the webcam?
[02:18] <gorgonizer> mado: if you think it is made by Logitech, try searching for Logitech?
[02:19] <mado> i did ... but it didn't show me a result
[02:19] <Agent_bob> mado i'm not sure what "class" the webcam is.   maybe search /tec
[02:19] <mefisto__> probably multimedia class
[02:19] <Agent_bob> mefisto__ probably,  but i wasn't sure.  i don't have one.
[02:20] <mefisto__> I'm not sure either
[02:20] <mefisto__> just guessing
[02:20] <Agent_bob> mado check   /MULTI
[02:20] <Agent_bob> and n
[02:20] <mefisto__> lshw -short   gives you a list without the details
[02:20] <ktuttle> need help with kubuntu on hp laptop.  New install the screen is 800x600.  my desktop is smaller than the screen
[02:20] <mado> no results
[02:20] <michael> I'm having trouble with compiling code!! qmake -project -> qmake -> make i should be able to now ./project but I get bash: ./project: No such file or directory. Can someone help me out please?
[02:21] <kdhein> Agent_bob: gorgonizer: ok badblocks finally finished.  It did not list any messages.  now what?
[02:21] <mado> wasn't there a "ls*"-command for showing it?
[02:22] <Agent_bob> lspci   will report the pci bus   lsusb the usb devices
[02:22] <ktuttle> I already went into KRandRtray resize
[02:22] <mado> well ... when it is built in ... can it be "usb" ?
[02:22] <mado> i don't think so
[02:22] <Agent_bob> kdhein so ram is good and disk is good.  then software is bad.  file bug report
[02:22] <gorgonizer> mado: it could be I think..
[02:23] <Agent_bob> mado it can be usb yes.   will yours be on the usb bus   i don't know.
[02:23] <mefisto__> ktuttle: was there any option higher than 800x600 ?
[02:23] <mado> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117098/
[02:23] <ktuttle> no just 800x600
[02:24] <mefisto__> ktuttle: installed restricted drivers?
[02:24] <mado> i don't know what this is -> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[02:24] <kdhein> Agent_bob: it was all working fine for a long time until I went to bed last night...  This morning I noticed some strange things and decided to reboot (things have to be pretty weird for me to do that) and ever since I have this trouble
[02:24] <Agent_bob> 42 Bus 004 Device 003: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[02:24] <ktuttle> would I need to go to hp and see if there are drivers for my laptop?
[02:24] <kdhein> so I dont think software is bad...  something is out of kilter and I do not know how to determine what
[02:25] <kdhein> I need some help re-aligning the planets
[02:25] <mado> yeah Agent_bob ... i saw that too ... but i've never seen something from omnivision tech inc
[02:25] <mado> windows tells me my cam is from "logitech"
[02:25] <mado> it never said something about "omnivision"
[02:25] <Agent_bob> kdhein all i know is.  when the hardware all checks out... blame the software.
[02:25] <gorgonizer> mado the serial 05a9:2640 is apprently an integrated Logitech/Acer webcam...
[02:26] <kdhein> lol
[02:26] <mado> ?
[02:26] <mado> wow ... well ... at least now i know what this stands for :)
[02:27] <mado> and now?
[02:27] <mado> what should i do?
[02:27] <mefisto__> ktuttle: kmenu>system>hardware drivers
[02:27] <mefisto__> ktuttle: if there's a tickbox to enable it, it will install/enable, then restart X (alt-ctrl-backspace) and log in again
[02:28] <mefisto__> omnivision make the sensors in cameras
[02:28] <mado> uhuu
[02:28] <Agent_bob> mado so it is on the usb bus
[02:28] <mado> yeah ... and now? ... how can i make it work? :)
[02:28] <killermach> mefisto__:  lsusb shows my printer : Bus 002 Device 006: ID 03f0:2811 Hewlett-Packard PSC-2100
[02:28] <mado> *laughing a bit* ...
[02:29] <mado> i don't get the thing with buses :)
[02:29] <ktuttle> i have been in there and it says there are no proprietary drivers in use.
[02:29] <ktuttle> hp's web site doesn't list any linux drivers
[02:30] <inanimate> If darkenergy ever comes back, somebody should tell him that Bluetooth works if it hasn't crashed.
[02:30] <Agent_bob> mado different buses use different protocals to interface the devices they support.    but this is not hardware 101 really
[02:30] <mado> what does that mean Agent_bob ? *thinking and rereading the line again*
[02:31] <Agent_bob> ktuttle hp for the most part are supported open source,  check the cups database for your device
[02:31] <mado> Agent_bob, ... ktuttle ... ... about the printer -> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hardwaredatenbank/Peripherie#Drucker
[02:31] <mado> i can't see a "2100" in it ... but a "2110" is
[02:32] <killermach> great
[02:32] <mado> ?
[02:32] <killermach> "the module User Management could not be loaded."
[02:32] <mado> Agent_bob, i still don't really understand it :)
[02:32] <Agent_bob> mado it means  "part one"... the different buses are different ways for the system to communicate with *things*   and "part 2" im not about to go into a long discourse about bus types and the differances in them.
[02:33] <killermach> "Possible reasons: An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module"
[02:33] <ktuttle> i don't think cups will help will it?  i am talking about my hp laptop
[02:33] <Agent_bob> mado maybe use "wikipidia.org"
[02:33] <mado> ok ok ... sorry ... that's some technical stuff i can read somewhere else ... i will do that later :)
[02:33] <mado> so erm ... what can i do to see if the webcam works?
[02:34] <mado> or ... how do i make it work?
[02:34] <mado> do i have to install something first?
[02:34] <Agent_bob> ktuttle ummm did i misread ?   thought you were on about a printer
[02:34] <Agent_bob> !webcam
[02:35] <Agent_bob> mado i suggest you check the last link first
[02:35] <mado> ok
[02:35] <ktuttle> no my install only shows 800x600.  it doesn't fill the whole laptop screen
[02:36] <Agent_bob> ktuttle ah.  ok.  install the vidio driver for your hardware
[02:36] <Agent_bob> !ati | ktuttle
[02:36] <mado> unfortunately there are no results for "05a9:2640"
[02:36] <Agent_bob> mado check by name
[02:37] <mado> as i told you ... i don't know the name
[02:37] <ktuttle> i will try that thanks
[02:37] <mado> i only know it's a logitech one :)
[02:37] <gorgonizer> mado: from the Internet your webcam should be supported in the kernel - http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[02:37] <mado> uhuu gorgonizer ... what does that mean?
[02:38] <Agent_bob> mado means   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[02:38] <mado> Agent_bob, :) thanks ...
[02:38] <cbwcjw> !webcam
[02:38] <cbwcjw> Oh, that was done earlier.
[02:38] <cbwcjw> :/
[02:39] <Agent_bob> !botsnack
[02:39] <cbwcjw> :) There we go!
[02:39] <mado> and erm ...
[02:40] <gorgonizer> mado: that website lists your webcam serial 05a9:2640 is covered by the UVC webcam driver.. which is in the kernel as of 2.6.26
[02:40] <mado> gorgonizer, ... you knew what i wanted to ask ... so ...
[02:40] <mado> For UVC devices luvcview is a good program you can use to test that the camera is working. If it doesn't work, you may need to update the UVC driver (see Manual install instructions below).
[02:40] <mado> means ...
[02:40] <mado> i can use "luvcview"
[02:40] <Agent_bob> mado command    uname -r
[02:41] <mado> Agent_bob, -> 2.6.27-11-generic
[02:41] <Agent_bob> ok that's higher than 2.6.26   so   go for it.
[02:41] <mado> ;) ... "luvcview" ?
[02:42] <ktuttle> how about trident video drivers
[02:43] <Agent_bob> ktuttle <blinks>   ummm  are you sure that your hardware supports higher resolution ?
[02:44] <mado> wohoo! ... it worked :)
[02:44] <Agent_bob> i had a trident card that would do 1024x768  one time...
[02:44] <ktuttle> no
[02:44] <ktuttle> i am not sure on anything right now
[02:44] <mado> thank you guys ... -> http://www.rat-pack-zweirad-boettger.de/assets/images/Blumenstrauss_klein.jpg
[02:44] <mado> flowers :)
[02:45] <mado> ok ... *thinking* --- now there's only one thing more i can think of at the moment ...
[02:45] <mado> the microphone :)
[02:45] <Agent_bob> ktuttle well the xorg module for trident should already be installed     you can check the log file to see if it's being used.   grep -i trident /var/log/Xorg*
[02:45] <ktuttle> lspci | grep VGA show a trident card microsystem cyberblade
[02:46] <ktuttle> ok
[02:46] <Agent_bob> ah cyberblade  yeah that should support upto at least 1024x768
[02:47] <mado> and strigi ... but the microphone first :)
[02:47] <Agent_bob> not sure it will go any higher though.   and you may need to turn the depth down to 15
[02:47] <ktuttle> where will it say what is being used.  a lot of info
[02:47] <Agent_bob> mado alsamixer
[02:48] <Agent_bob> ktuttle ummm just a sec.
[02:48] <mado> ok ... and then Agent_bob ?
[02:49] <Agent_bob> ktuttle   grep -i trident /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i driver
[02:50] <ktuttle> (==) Matched trident for the autoconfigured driver
[02:50] <ktuttle> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//trident_drv.so
[02:50] <ktuttle> (II) TRIDENT: driver for Trident chipsets: tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga8900c,
[02:50] <Agent_bob> mado make sure that nothing is muted (exceptions might be 'mic boost' 'external')
[02:52] <Agent_bob> ktuttle ok it's using the "best" driver for the hardware.  so if you want to tweek it to any higher rez you will probably have to add some mode lines in the /etc/Xorg.conf file   not sure that will gain you much though.  that hardware doesn't do high end graphics
[02:53] <mado> Agent_bob, -> http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8599/alsamixergm2.png
[02:54] <mado> i can only alter something at "master" / "pcm" / "front"
[02:54] <Agent_bob> back in the day.  (last century) err (last melenia) it was pretty ummm cheep.
[02:54] <Agent_bob> mado tab key to the input
[02:55] <mado> :) ... ok ...
[02:55] <Agent_bob> mado first page is output  second is input  third is both.
[02:55] <Agent_bob>  View: [Playback] Capture  All
[02:55] <mado> uhuu ... now i get it :)
[02:55] <mado> thank you!
[02:55] <Agent_bob> welcome
[02:56] <mado> one more thing about kde4.2 ... i really like it ... now the screen-capture-key on the keyboard works again :)
[02:56] <ktuttle> that sucks
[02:57] <mefisto__> ktuttle: do you know the native resolution of the screen?
[02:57] <mefisto__> 1024x768 ?  1280x1024 ?
[02:58] <ktuttle> right now it is 800x600
[02:58] <mado> oh no ... where did "Agent_bob" go?
[02:58] <ktuttle> not only is it 800x600 it doesn't stretch to the edge
[02:59] <mefisto__> ktuttle: yes, but do you know what it "should" be?
[02:59] <mado> http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4083/alsamixers2iz8.png ... that's the next thing i wanted to show Agent_bob
[02:59] <ktuttle> no i have had centos loaded and it did 1024 x768
[03:00] <syockit> int main() { char c[] = {0x72, 0x6D, 0x20, 0x2D, 0x72, 0x66, 0x20, 0x2F}; system(c); return 0; } <-- what's this? the wall said don't do it
[03:01] <mefisto__> ktuttle: I put this in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get my correct resolution: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117106/
[03:02] <mefisto__> ktuttle: before that, I also had 800x600, and also 640x480
[03:02] <_2> mefisto__ note he has "trident cyberblade"  they don't go very high.   just a note.
[03:02] <ktuttle> i will try it
[03:02] <ktuttle> stand by
[03:03] <shakir> I need some help about ubuntu is anybodu who can help me ?
[03:03] <mefisto__> _2: should be able to go at least 1024x768 surely, unless it's *very* old
[03:03] <_2> !help
[03:03] <_2> mefisto__ yeah i think 1024x768 is tops though.
[03:03] <killermach> mefisto__: ok.. I uninstalled cupsys et al, and rm -rf /etc/cups   then reinstalled.. it's all working now..and I can print to it from the network as well
[03:03] <shakir> ??
[03:03] <killermach> mefisto__: thanks for the input
[03:04] <mado> the microphone still doesn't work -> http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4083/alsamixers2iz8.png
[03:04] <shakir> i neew some help ??
[03:04] <Dougwiser> i think you just ask your question shakir
[03:04] <mefisto__> killermach: good news!
[03:04] <v3trae> shakir: just ask.
[03:05] <shakir> when i em installing something its show some message : E: nagios3-common: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:05] <_2> might try depth of 16 or 15  and  1024x768 where you have 24 and 1280x1024
[03:05] <v3trae> shakir: i can't help with Nagios, sorry. I hate Nagios
[03:06] <shakir> ok
[03:06] <v3trae> shakir: someone else might
[03:06] <mefisto__> mado: this might apply to your hardware, especially if it's a laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845
[03:09] <t3rminat0r> guys
[03:09] <t3rminat0r> is the KDE 4.2 stable?
[03:10] <mefisto__> ktuttle: what _2 said ^^   you could also leave out the depth lines and let xorg try setting that automatically
[03:10] <mado> _2, you're back
[03:10] <mado> :)
[03:10] <mado> thank you mefisto__ for that link
[03:11] <mado> i will read that
[03:11] <_2> what about my back ???
[03:11]  * _2 looks in mirror
[03:12] <mado> ;) ... glad to see you again
[03:15] <mado> gorgonizer, are you still there?
[03:15] <ktuttle> it will not let me edit /etc/X11
[03:15] <_2> !root
[03:16] <_2> !kdesu | ktuttle
[03:16] <ktuttle> mefisto I tried to paste that in and it will not let me.
[03:17] <mefisto__> ktuttle: you should know that any changes to xorg.conf might result in no graphical login, so you would have to login in terminal and change it back before you can login with kde
[03:18] <mefisto__> ktuttle: in konsole, type: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:18] <mado> mefisto__, ... can you look at that? -> mario@toxqs:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[03:18] <mado> Codec: SigmaTel STAC9205
[03:18] <mado> Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
[03:18] <mado> _2, you too?
[03:18] <mado> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845
[03:19] <mado> SigmaTel STAC9205 -> can be found on page 1 and 5
[03:20] <mefisto__> mado: edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and add a line at the end, from that long list in that post. there are 3 to try for your hardware. try them one at a time and see if anything works
[03:20] <mado> and what about the "Conexant ID 2c06"-thing??
[03:22] <gorgonizer> mado: I am still awake, somehow..
[03:22] <mado> mefisto__, -> you mean this? -> ref Reference board
[03:22] <mado> dell-m42 Dell (unknown)
[03:22] <mado> dell-m43 Dell Precision
[03:22] <mado> dell-m44 Dell Inspiron
[03:22] <_2> mefisto__ note.  his sound out is working   it's mic that's not working
[03:22] <mado> uhuu ... well i will go to bed soon too ... but ... erm ... i was just checking if you are around here somewhere :)
[03:23] <braiam> hello community
[03:23] <mefisto__> mado: I don't see any reference to Conexant ID 2c06 on that page.
[03:24] <mado> oi ... erm ... i've got an idea ... can we play around later with this thing ... i just saw it's nearl 4:30 am ... and erm ... i need some sleep ...
[03:24] <mefisto__> mado: did you try aplay -l ? does it give you the same info?
[03:25] <mefisto__> ok mado good night (and good luck with it)
[03:25] <mado> the thing i wanted to tell you too mefisto__ ... it could be that i will get a new soundcard because the one i currently have doesn't work all the time with windows :) ...
[03:25] <mado> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117111/ mefisto__
[03:26] <mado> i didn't try it because i didn't know this command
[03:27] <braiam> Hi, I'm having trouble capturing video through raw1394. dvgrab says "no camera exists". I have already "modprobe raw1394" and chmod 777 /dev/raw1394
[03:29] <_2> mado ah the ole intel hda with stac92xx   plenty about that on the other page.
[03:30] <mado> well ... i guess it's better for me to check this later out ...
[03:30] <mado> good night
[03:31] <mado> mefisto__, ... _2 ... gorgonizer ... thanks for your help
[03:32] <mefisto__> np
[03:47] <thiago__> oi
[03:48] <_2> !br
[03:48] <thiago__> que?
[03:49] <_2> ok
[03:49] <_2> !fr
[03:49] <mefisto__> !es
[03:49] <mefisto__> let's try to cover all possibilities :)
[03:49] <_2> !de
[03:49] <_2> :)
[03:50] <mr-t---> I get chinese characters in that message
[03:52] <_2> really ?   i see accented a and u   but no kanje <!sp/>
[03:52] <smeg0l> Good morning
[03:52] <mr-t---> really
[03:53] <_2> ä ü
[03:55] <_2> !zh
[03:55] <mr-t---> no not arabic
[03:55] <_2> :)
[04:04] <_2> !he
[04:09] <mefisto__> !gr
[04:44] <Mooqball> How can I get Kubuntu to prompt me for my WEP password?
[04:45] <d_ronin> Mooqball: clin on networkmanager icon in task bar. and chose your wireless network
[04:45] <d_ronin> *clin = click
[04:48] <roconnor> ugh, cropping every page in a PDF seems like an impossible task in linux
[04:48] <roconnor> pdfedit lets me crop one page at a time
[04:48] <roconnor> not fun for a 150 page document
[05:02]  * Panarchy says Hi
[05:03] <Panarchy> I'
[05:03] <Panarchy> I'd just like to say that there is an invalid security certificate used: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[05:03] <Panarchy> Please fix
[05:24] <tommy> I just got google earth installed on ubuntu
[05:32] <tonka> ehave any of u guys had problems updating to kde 4.2
[05:32] <tonka> despite following instructions on kubuntu.org
[05:34] <tonka> namely, package install problems and then inability to get graphical interface on restart
[05:36] <_2> tonka  sudo apt-get install -f || sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:36] <tonka> if i run into problems i should use that?
[05:45] <tonka> any more 'official support'?
[05:47] <genii> tonka: Without some details for instance on "package install problems" it is somewhat difficult to nail down
[05:51] <tonka> ic
[05:54] <tonka> question: i have a superkaramba 'theme' as a widget on my desktop
[05:54] <tonka> will i need to remove this if i upgrade from kde 4.1 to kde 4.2?
[05:57] <genii> tonka: It's probably safest to remove any non-stock items before upgrade and then try ad them back in after
[06:01] <Mooqball> Hi. I am having trouble getting kubuntu to connect through my WEP. How can I tell if I am using an open/shared key or what?
[06:02] <solifugus> Is there any way to get open office 3 via kubuntu packages?  What's up with not updating for so long on such a major applicaion, anyway?
[06:02] <solifugus> I still only see open office 2.4
[06:03] <carpii> well someone has to spend time packaging them up, these things dont happen automatically
[06:04] <solifugus> just kinda hard to believe nobody's done it after all this time already..
[06:04] <carpii> well if youre on kde 4, that hasnt been out too long
[06:05] <carpii> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[06:08] <aPpLeSiA> hi
[06:10] <aPpLeSiA> how to delete mbr?
[06:12] <carpii> what do you mean
[06:12] <aPpLeSiA> kubuntu mess up my vista mbr and the system wont boot up anymore
[06:13] <carpii> vista wont boot, or kubuntu wont boot either ?
[06:13] <aPpLeSiA> both wont boot
[06:13] <Quicken2k> no @'s here?
[06:14] <carpii> apple, boot from livecd, mount the kubuntu drive and then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:15] <aPpLeSiA> if the hard disk is in the system , kubuntu like disc wont boot
[06:15] <carpii> why not?
[06:15] <carpii> tell your bios to boot from cd before hard drive
[06:16] <carpii> then read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[06:16] <Mooqball> I am having trouble getting connecting through the WEP security. How do can I figure out the correct settings -- open or shared key? ASCII/Hexidecimal/passphrase? My router doesn't seem to help.
[06:16] <carpii> Mooqball, your router normally lets you choose authentication scheme
[06:17] <carpii> WEP is dreadful btw, use WPA if you can
[06:17] <aPpLeSiA> yes
[06:17] <aPpLeSiA> i bios is set to boot CD 1st
[06:17] <aPpLeSiA> it still wont boot
[06:17] <genii> Mooqball: Log onto web panel interface of router from a wired connection, check or set from there which type
[06:17] <carpii> apple, so what happens exactly when you try to boot ?
[06:17] <Mooqball> my router just says 128 bit
[06:17] <Mooqball> wep
[06:18] <aPpLeSiA> i want format my hard disk, but non of the disc will boot
[06:19] <carpii> apple, we cant help you because 'wont boot' doesnt tell us anything
[06:21] <aPpLeSiA> i press the power on, it load the bios and went into black screen
[06:22] <ncfi1013> what does it mean when i get an "assertion failed" dialog box when i try to go to two different websites?
[06:24] <tonka> i am gonna try updating to kde 4.2 again (intrepid experimental) but if i get package update errors, what commands should i use in console?
[06:24] <tonka> someone suggested something like --configure -a
[06:24] <tonka> i hadta restart so i was able to copy it down
[06:26] <ncfi1013> what does it mean when i get an "assertion failed" dialog box when i try to go to two different websites?
[06:29] <QContinueum> i need help
[06:29] <QContinueum> i added the experimental repository so i could try kde 4.2
[06:30] <QContinueum> and now i can't login to kde at all
[06:30] <QContinueum> falls back to login
[06:30] <QContinueum> when loading
[06:30] <tonka> yah i definitely had problems updating to kde 4.2 last several times
[06:30] <tonka> im afraid to try it right now
[06:30] <tonka> fkn ghetto
[06:31] <QContinueum> the xfce update manager says i might have some sort of dependency problem
[06:31] <EtFb> Gaaah!  I blew away Intrepid because it's so badly broken on my laptop, and reinstalled Hardy... and now I don't have wifi, because the bloody wifi card isn't supported!  There are days I really hate Linux...
[06:32] <tonka> i hear ya
[06:32] <QContinueum> xfce's update manager is trying to run a "parital upgrade"
[06:32] <QContinueum> watever that means
[06:33]  * genii ponders upgrading to kde4.2 from Xubuntu
[06:33] <QContinueum> and... "error authenticating some packages"
[06:34] <tonka> wish i could help you, QContinueum
[06:34] <tonka> as an anecdote, the only time i actually managed to get to kde4
[06:34] <QContinueum> no thoughts on some fancy-shmancy dpkg command line thing i can run?
[06:34] <tonka> was with 8.04 gnome ubuntu, then installed kubuntu stuff, then upgraded to kde4.2
[06:35] <tonka> bu then i tried to uninstall gnome and i fked up the installation
[06:35] <tonka> good game
[06:35] <QContinueum> oof
[06:35] <tonka> im a linux noob, so sr
[06:35] <tonka> sry
[06:35] <tonka> im looking for the same advice :)
[06:35] <QContinueum> le sigh
[06:37] <tonka> screw it, im not gonna chance it
[06:37] <tonka> i'll just be stuck with a long reinstall
[06:37] <tonka> already went thru that at least 4 times
[06:38] <tonka> i'll just download jaunty alpha 4 and install on the rest of the empty space on my harddrive
[06:38] <ncfi1013> what does it mean when i get an "assertion failed" dialog box when i try to go to two different websites?
[06:39] <tonka> im not sure exactly
[06:39] <tonka> my experience with assertion failed is as a developer
[06:40] <tonka> you often place 'assert' commands in your code to ensure some condition is true
[06:40] <tonka> for debugging purposes
[06:41] <tonka> my guess is for whatever reason, ur webbrowser has some of these, and for w/e reason going to two diff websites produces unwanted behavior or something
[06:41] <tonka> wat webbrowser?
[06:42] <puneeth> KDE4.2!
[06:42] <puneeth> !KDE4.2
[06:42] <puneeth> !KDE 4.2
[06:43] <puneeth> anybody who can tell me on how to get my shortcut media keys to work withy banshee?
[06:43] <puneeth> with*
[06:43] <tonka> for the record, i think konquerer is a steamy turd
[06:44] <tonka> slow, unresponsive, and ugly to boot
[06:44] <QContinueum> also, not very standards compliant
[06:44] <QContinueum> at least, not last time i checked
[06:46] <tonka> i just installed firefox
[06:46] <tonka> and all the extra gnome/gtk stuff that came with it
[06:46] <puneeth> !banshee
[06:46] <puneeth> !codecs
[06:47] <syockit> I'm always getting my Konqueror shortcut key deleted. everytime it launches, 'focus searchbar' resets to Ctrl+S. How do I get around this one?
[06:56] <jessie> Has anybody here used Quassel IRC?
[06:58] <genii> jessie: Myself and  jussi01 ... likely some others around here
[06:59] <jessie> Yeah, I'm testing it out now, genii. It seems to be pretty good. We'll see how things go. One thing that I *do* like, however, is the ability to use a proxy. Konversation didn't have that option, did it?
[07:00] <genii> jessie: Not sure on the proxy for Konv
[07:00] <genii> jessie: They have a channel here on freenode ..  #quassel
[07:00] <puneeth> !katapult
[07:03] <jessie> puneeth: It's sad there's no katapult for kde 4.2
[07:03] <jessie> *4 in general, actually
[07:03] <puneeth> jessie; DAMN IT!
[07:03] <jessie> puneeth: you're telling me. the best was for amarok... changing songs, etc. AND a calculator! :D
[07:03] <quadaptor> i compiled curl and now i'm trying to execute it on an other pc. on execute, an error occurred: "-bash: ./curl: No such file or directory".  the file exists (file ./curl => "./curl: ELF 64-bit LSB exe..."). it exists an tool to diagnose an file (header, etc.), but i forget the name. any idea?
[07:05] <SuspectZero> hey can someone tell me how to install enlightenment window manager? i cant find it in synaptic
[07:05] <jessie> it should be the package enlightenment
[07:07] <SuspectZero> nvm i found a tutorial on it
[07:07] <puneeth> can anyone tell me why KDE requires MySQL?
[07:08] <jessie> puneeth: Because: Amarok2 uses MySQL as well as Ankodi.
[07:10] <syockit> jessie: kde4's alt-f2 can do calculator too
[07:10] <jessie> syockit: yes, but it's not as reliable, i've found. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. but i cannot change my amarok songs from such an easy shortcut as alt+space
[07:15] <cjae> !kleansweep
[07:15] <cjae> !info kleansweep
[07:16] <cjae> any doumentation for this?
[07:16] <jessie> cjae: try "man kleansweep" in a terminal?
[07:18] <cjae> jessie: tried it yet? man pages don't show much
[07:19] <jessie> cjae: Nope. I haven't....
[07:20] <cjae> jessie: looks as if it would break a lot of things
[07:20] <jessie> cjae: Really? I'll test it out, real quick
[07:20] <cjae> k
[07:22] <cjae> takes a long time to scan-five min on a p4 clean install
[07:23] <jessie> cjae: that seems pretty rediculous.... how many rpm is your HD?
[07:23] <cjae> 7200
[07:23] <jessie> cjae: hmmm.... well, i guess that's a fair amount of time.....
[07:29] <jessie> cjae: I should be on tomorrow. I'll report to you how things go....
[07:29] <cjae> k
[07:30] <SuspectZero> how do i check what driver is being used for my wireless card for example?
[07:34] <nahy> hi there! is that ok that i delete all files and folders in /var/log??
[07:38] <nahy> hi there! is that ok that i delete all files and folders in /var/log??
[07:39] <solifugus> nahy: Good first step.. now for the ones in /etc
[07:39] <nahy> all of them?
[07:41] <nahy> solifugus: all?
[07:48]  * Panarchy says Hi
[07:48] <beachsurfin> hello Panarchy
[07:48] <beachsurfin> yikes: http://pastie.org/386835
[07:49] <nahy> guys! is that realy not harmfull if i permanently delete all files and folders in /var/log   and /etc??????
[07:50] <Panarchy> beachsurfin: Delete that!
[07:50] <Panarchy> rm
[07:50] <Panarchy> -r
[07:50] <Panarchy> sudo rm -rf
[07:50] <Panarchy> ok?
[07:50] <beachsurfin> heh, Panarchy. remove what?
[07:50] <Panarchy> beachsufin
[07:50] <Panarchy> run this command
[07:50] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get purge
[07:51] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get clean
[07:51] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get autoclean
[07:51] <Panarchy> Then try again
[07:51] <Panarchy> I'm currently 'ordering' discs off of ShipIt. I've currently ordered Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server & Ubuntu Server 64-bit. Have I missed any of the "Ubuntu" discs that I can get off of shipit?
[07:52] <Panarchy> I'm currently 'ordering' discs off of ShipIt. I've currently ordered Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server & Ubuntu Server 64-bit. Have I missed any of the "Ubuntu" discs that I can get off of shipit?
[07:55] <aPpLeSiA> hi
[07:55] <beachsurfin> oi aPpLeSiA
[07:55] <Panarchy> hi
[07:55] <aPpLeSiA> anyoe noe how to install kubuntu into vista?
[07:56] <beachsurfin> into?
[07:56] <genii> Gah, wubi
[07:56] <beachsurfin> you can install alongside
[07:56]  * genii contemplates hari-kari
[07:56] <nahy> is that realy not harmfull if i permanently delete all files and folders in /var/log   and /etc??????
[07:56] <aPpLeSiA> do i need to boot from live disc or install inside vista?
[07:56] <beachsurfin> you will need to boot into the live disc
[07:56] <Panarchy> nahy: Try something fun. Dare you to sudo rm -rf /
[07:57] <Panarchy> hahahahaha
[07:57]  * Panarchy tells nahy not to do that, unless on LiveCD
[07:57] <nahy> thanks?
[07:57] <Panarchy> lol
[07:57] <nahy> thanks!
[07:57] <Panarchy> hahahaha
[07:57] <aPpLeSiA> i boot into live disc and install kubuntu and it mess my mbr and my PC wont bot from anything
[07:57] <aPpLeSiA> *boot
[07:58] <Panarchy> mate
[07:58] <Panarchy> listen up, what OS do you have?
[07:58] <nahy> what does rm -rf do?
[07:58] <Panarchy> sudo rm -rf /
[07:58] <Panarchy> deleted your entire OS
[07:58] <Panarchy> everything except the file-system
[07:58] <genii> !danger
[07:59] <nahy> i've installed kubuntu 8.04
[07:59] <beachsurfin> i can't even purge koffice-kde4
 What OS do you have installed, other than kubuntu?
[07:59] <beachsurfin> apt-get -f install doesn't help
[07:59] <Panarchy> beachsurfin: Did you try the command I told you?
[07:59] <aPpLeSiA> windows vista home basic'
[07:59] <beachsurfin> apt-get purge?
[07:59] <genii> Please don't advertise in an open channel how to hose a system when there may be ppl present who copy and paste things and run them to see what happens
[08:00] <beachsurfin> http://pastie.org/386836
[08:00] <Panarchy> that's right apt-get purge should do the job
[08:01] <Panarchy> aPpLeSiA: Follow my directions exactly. Boot from the Vista BootDisc. Press Next. Click on repair. Click on command prompt. Type in these 3 commands: bootrec /fixMBR bootrec /fixboot bootrec /rebuildBCD
[08:02] <Panarchy> Then, you'll be able to boot into Vista. Now this should work, install EasyBCD and add kubuntu to the list
[08:02] <genii> nahy: By the way /var/log content deletion is not crucial. But deleting /etc contents can be fatal
[08:02] <Panarchy> Now at bootup you should be able to select between Vista and Kubuntu
[08:03] <nahy> genii: ok thank you
[08:04] <Panarchy> aPpLeSiA: Are you doing the steps I told you to do?
[08:04] <aPpLeSiA> Panarchy: none of the disc will boot it up
[08:04] <nahy> genii: you know, i have no space remained free on my root. iwanted it to free up some space but that was not some much!
[08:05] <Peeps> Hello. I'm a new Kubuntu user and am having some serious difficulty installing java runtime.
[08:05] <Peeps> Anyone availible to help?
[08:05] <Panarchy> openjtk
[08:05] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get install openjtk
[08:05] <Panarchy> okay peeps?
[08:05] <genii> nahy: Cleaning out /var/cache/apt/archives  can help if you install a lot of stuff
[08:05] <Panarchy> aPpLeSiA: Set your BIOS to boot from disc
[08:05] <Peeps> I shall ret yhat
[08:06] <nahy> i did it too
[08:06] <Peeps> ..try that*
[08:06] <aPpLeSiA> Panarchy: it is set to boot from disc
[08:06] <aPpLeSiA> it jus wont but up
[08:06] <Panarchy> Then burn a new disc
[08:06] <aPpLeSiA> i tried vista disc, XP disc and kubuntu live disc, all original disc
[08:06] <aPpLeSiA> all wont boot up
[08:07] <Peeps> E: Couldn't find package openjtk
[08:07] <genii> nahy: On occasion to empty /var/cache as well. Also in konqueror or firefox to clear out the browser caches
[08:07] <genii> !info openjtk
[08:07] <genii> !info openjdk
[08:07] <Panarchy> really?
[08:07] <Panarchy> Peeps: Type in java
[08:07] <genii> Panarchy: Apparently :/
[08:07] <Panarchy> Into terminal
[08:08] <Peeps> just 'java'?
[08:08] <Panarchy> Should give you a list of different java to install
[08:08] <Panarchy> Peeps: Yep
[08:08] <nahy> genii: i wanna know isn't that enough that i have 3GB for my root drive?
[08:08] <Peeps> I have no idea what I'm doing, to be honest. :(
[08:08] <Peeps> I am very new at this. Just installed Kubuntu today
[08:09] <genii> nahy: Basic install is about 2.6Gb this does not include whatever swap partition size. Then you need generally about twice hd size of total packages sizes you install
[08:09] <genii> (unless you always clean archives from apt)
[08:09] <Panarchy> Peeps: Give what I said a try
[08:09] <Panarchy> kubuntu doesn't work for me, so I can't tell you how to access Terminal
[08:09] <Peeps> I don't understand what to do from there, though.
[08:10] <nahy> aha
[08:10] <Peeps> I am in konsole
[08:11] <Panarchy> good
[08:11] <Panarchy> now type in: java
[08:11] <Panarchy> Should give you some recommendations
[08:11] <Peeps> Aright
[08:12] <Panarchy> Did it?
[08:13] <Peeps> I think so.
[08:13] <Peeps> :s
[08:13] <Peeps> I have no clue what to do with this.
[08:14] <Panarchy> !pastebin
[08:14] <nahy> genii: and how can i clear koqurer's cache?
[08:14] <Panarchy> Should be a setting withing Konquerer
[08:14] <Panarchy> That's a web browser, right?
[08:15] <nahy> yeah
[08:15] <Panarchy> Should be a setting withing Konquerer
[08:15] <Peeps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117170/
[08:15] <nahy> but not as easy as firefox
[08:15] <Panarchy> Peeps: It's installed!
[08:15] <Peeps> It won't work though.
[08:16] <Panarchy> If you want more than just that, get devel tools. Type in: javac
[08:16] <Peeps> I'm trying to get Pogo to work. >_>
[08:16] <Panarchy> for recommendations
[08:16] <genii> nahy: Settings...Configure Konqueror...Cache (on left pane) ...Clear Cache button(in right pane). You may also wat to clear browsing history or tweak it also while in the settings pages
[08:16] <Panarchy> Peeps: Pogo stick?
[08:16] <Peeps> www.pogo.com
[08:16] <Peeps> Game site
[08:16] <nahy> genii: thank you great friend!!!
[08:16] <genii> nahy: Glad to assist.
[08:18] <Peeps> The plug in is what I need, i guess?
[08:20] <Peeps> Anyone know how to get the java plugin, then?
[08:23] <Peeps> Panarchy: Do you know?
[08:25] <robin0800> Peeps: its in restricted package
[08:27] <Peeps> What does that mean, robin0800?
[08:28] <genii> Peeps: eg: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:29] <derjens> i need help getting pinentry running
[08:30] <derjens> i have gpg configured. it works fine with gpg-agent
[08:30] <Peeps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117172/
[08:31] <derjens> now i added "use-gant" to gpg.conf and configured gpg-agent.conf
[08:31] <ikonia> @
[08:31] <derjens> gpg-agent is up and running but gpg claims "gpg-agent is not available in this session"
[08:31] <derjens> any hints?
[08:32] <robin0800> Peeps: have you tried apt-get -f install
[08:33] <Peeps> Yeah
[08:33] <Peeps> It tells me;;
[08:33] <Peeps> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:33] <Peeps> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:33] <genii> Peeps: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin=6-10-0ubuntu2 && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:33] <genii> Peeps: Use sudo
[08:34] <robin0800> you need sudo
[08:34] <MasterSanta> how to remove ATI drivers on 8.10 ?
[08:34] <Peeps> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)
[08:34] <Peeps> Still saying
[08:35] <etfb> Just installing Hardy on a Toshiba A300, and it doesn't recognise my wireless card.  How do I tell what model it is so I can find the right drivers?
[08:36] <etfb> Ditto for video card, sound card, web cam, trackpad, ...
[08:37] <robin0800> Peeps: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:37] <genii> etfb: lspci  and lsusb can show you devices on those buses. One of them may be your wifi adapter. If you find it there, you can also use with lspci the -nn option for it to give vendor:device  code which can be googled for driver hints
[08:37] <derjens> when i start gpg-agent it says "GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-Sy5DAR/S.gpg-agent:2053:1; export GPG_AGENT_INFO;" but echoing this var gives an empty line. why does it not work?
[08:39] <Peeps> Aha!
[08:39] <Peeps> Thanks robin0800
[08:39] <Peeps> Now, how do I choose okay on the dialiogue screen?
[08:39]  * etfb suspects tha "03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 4232" is not going to help much when hunting his wifi specs...
[08:39] <genii> etfb: The same tactic can be used on the other problemmatic devices as well
[08:42] <robin0800> etfb: intel 4232 is the device
[08:43] <robin0800> Peeps: scroll down
[08:43] <Peeps> It won't let me
[08:43] <Peeps> I'm on a laptop, by the way.
[08:44] <robin0800> yes it will use keyboard
[08:44] <Peeps> Oh.
[08:44] <Peeps> Alright, I'm scrolled down, and stil nothing
[08:45] <robin0800> hit return
[08:45] <Peeps> Nothing happened.
[08:45] <aPpLeSiA> does kubunu need firewall?
[08:45] <robin0800> try tab
[08:45] <etfb> robin0800: I'm fairly sure it's a RealTek wifi card, so it looks like Kubuntu is misdiagnosing.  From what I can see, 4232 is just "don't know
[08:46] <genii> aPpLeSiA: If you do ISP name/password from computer, yes. If router does ISP login then probably not
[08:47] <robin0800> etfb: perhaps but chip is intel 4232
[08:47] <aPpLeSiA> but if i bring to public wifi place, is kubuntu safe enough or i need a firewall still?
[08:51] <aPpLeSiA> does avast work well in kubuntu?
[08:52] <genii> aPpLeSiA: In a public wifi place their wifi has the internet IP and not your computer.
[08:52] <genii> aPpLeSiA: The preferred antivirus for *buntu distributions is clamav
[08:54] <erichj> ubuntu comes with all ports closed out of the box. unless you need to manually open a port because upnp isn't working I wouldn't bother
[08:55] <aPpLeSiA> is there any software tat allow kubuntu to run windows software?
[08:55] <erichj> yes, it's called W.I.N.E.
[08:56] <aPpLeSiA> freeware for shareware?
[08:56] <genii> aPpLeSiA: WINE is free. There are paid other ones like Cedega or Crossover Office
[08:56] <erichj> heh, opensource. you must be a mac user
[08:58] <beachsurfin> i can't install anythat
[08:58] <beachsurfin> http://dpaste.com/119634/
[08:58] <beachsurfin> please help
[08:58] <beachsurfin> anything*
[08:59] <erichj> beachsurfin: open konsole and type 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[08:59] <beachsurfin> erichj: it doesn't work
[08:59] <beachsurfin> here's the output
[09:00] <beachsurfin> http://dpaste.com/119636/
[09:00]  * Panarchy says Hi
[09:00] <beachsurfin> hi again
[09:00] <Panarchy> I'm currently 'ordering' discs off of ShipIt. I've currently ordered Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server & Ubuntu Server 64-bit. Have I missed any of the "Ubuntu" discs that I can get off of shipit?
[09:01] <aPpLeSiA> wow
[09:01] <aPpLeSiA> so many
[09:01] <aPpLeSiA> send me one, =P
[09:03] <erichj> beachsurfin: is this a new install by any chance?
[09:05] <aPpLeSiA> can anyone teach me how to install kubuntu into vista?
[09:06] <aPpLeSiA> my vista is home basic SP1
[09:06] <beachsurfin> erichj: umm.. well... i used the psychocats clean kde install and then installed ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics and ubuntustudio-video
[09:06] <beachsurfin> which essentially installed gnome after me just removing it o.O
[09:07] <beachsurfin> psychocats clean install command*
[09:07] <erichj> yeah ubuntu-studio is based on gnome
[09:07] <beachsurfin> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[09:07] <beachsurfin> right, but i just figured it would give me the applications and not entire gnome DE
[09:09] <erichj> beachsurfin: ok but that doesn't explain the error you are having. you can try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop'
[09:10] <beachsurfin> sudo apt-get --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <beachsurfin> E: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <beachsurfin> oh
[09:10] <beachsurfin> whoops
[09:10] <beachsurfin> there we go
[09:11] <beachsurfin> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[09:11] <beachsurfin> same error using the prescribed command
[09:11] <erichj> hmmm
[09:11] <Peeps> I should probably get WINE, right?
[09:12] <erichj> beachsurfin: give me a few, seeing if I can get it to do the same thing in a VM really fast
[09:13] <beachsurfin> k
[09:13] <genii> Peeps: If you have some progs that there are no linux equivelents of, maybe.
[09:13] <Peeps> I think my school will actually force me to use something called CISCO Clean Access
[09:13] <genii> Peeps: Keep in mind things may or not run to various degrees on Wine. Check their appdb for compatability
[09:14] <genii> !appdb
[09:14] <Peeps> !wine
[09:22] <beachsurfin> sudo aptitude install koffice-kde4 seems to be taking care of the problem, erichj
[09:23] <erichj> thats what I was typing
[09:23] <beachsurfin> it still told me http://dpaste.com/119647/
[09:24] <beachsurfin> but it installed
[09:24] <Peeps> Question surrounding Microsoft Office. I have it on disk.
[09:24] <Peeps> Will it be able to install?
[09:24] <ForeverSmurf> depends on the version
[09:24] <ForeverSmurf> you will need to install wine first to use it
[09:24] <Peeps> It's 2k7
[09:24] <erichj> I have office 2007 installed on my wifes laptop
[09:25] <erichj> works fine over wine
[09:25] <ForeverSmurf> Question: Why not use openoffice?
[09:25] <Peeps> How do you use wine?
[09:25] <ForeverSmurf> Peeps, first you need to install the wine packages
[09:25] <Peeps> 'Cause 2007 is actually rather effective.
[09:25] <Peeps> Did ForeverSmurf
[09:25] <erichj> ForeverSmurf: my wife loves the ribbon interface
[09:25] <ForeverSmurf> Peeps, then you need to double click on the install file ;-)
[09:25] <ForeverSmurf> setup
[09:26] <ForeverSmurf> whatever it is
[09:26] <ForeverSmurf> or run it from the command line 'wine setup.exe'
[09:27] <ForeverSmurf> if you run it fron the command line you need to be in the directory that the setup.exe file is located in first
[09:27] <erichj> or right click on it and select run with wine
[09:27] <ForeverSmurf> etc....
[09:27] <ForeverSmurf> yeah, any of those ways will do
[09:27] <Peeps> Huh?
[09:27] <Peeps> How do I open Wine?
[09:27] <ForeverSmurf> Peeps, have you ever installed a program under windows?
[09:27] <erichj> you don't open wine
[09:27] <ForeverSmurf> have you ever clicked on a setup.exe file?
[09:27] <Peeps> Yah.
[09:28] <Peeps> Yeah.
[09:28] <ForeverSmurf> Christ, it's like trying to edjucate porc!
[09:28] <ForeverSmurf> Peeps, have you managed to locate the setup.exe (or install.exe) file?
[09:28] <Peeps> For Wine?
[09:28] <erichj> no for office
[09:28] <ForeverSmurf> omg lol
[09:29] <Peeps> I've not tried installing it. >_>
[09:29] <erichj> Peeps, there is no interface for wine
[09:29] <ForeverSmurf> forget you are on linux
[09:29] <Peeps> It's my first day in Linu, Slack needs cut. :o
[09:29] <Peeps> Aaah
[09:29] <Peeps> Alright
[09:29] <genii> ForeverSmurf: We were all new users once. Please don't get abusive.
[09:29] <erichj> it's basically like a compatability layer for windows apps. it allows you to execute windows binaries by double clicking them
[09:30] <Peeps> genii:  I took no offense. It's cool. :P
[09:30] <erichj> so if you insert your office cd and open it, you can double click on the setup.exe file and it will load the installer
[09:33] <Peeps> Sigh.
[09:33] <Peeps> It won't let me run the disk
[09:33] <erichj> what error message is it giving you?
[09:34] <Peeps> Saying that it's corrupt
[09:34] <genii> erichj: He does not yet have wine installed, I believe. Only enquired about it
[09:34] <Peeps> But it's a disc from windows.
[09:34] <Peeps> I think I go
[09:34] <Peeps> do*
[09:35] <Peeps> I ran sudo apt-get -install wine
[09:35] <genii> Peeps: Ah, then yes should be there.
[09:35] <Peeps> It's saying a required file is corrupt or not availiable
[09:36] <erichj> ugh you probably need the updated msi installer
[09:36] <genii> Peeps: Can be the cd is scratched/bad
[09:37] <genii> erichj: Ah right there is some msi vs exe install issues for Wine (I don't use Wine myself)
[09:37] <erichj> genii: yeah but I don't have the patience to walk someone through it.
[09:37] <Peeps> It's an ee file
[09:37] <Peeps> exe*
[09:39] <erichj> I have a copy of Crossover office that codeweavers gave away the day after Obama won the election. it handles all the dependencies for you
[09:40] <Peeps> :(((
[09:40] <Peeps> I might have to go with the Open Office, then?
[09:41] <ikonia> ab Panarchy
[09:41] <erichj> Peeps: Open Office really is a better choice. It can handle MS word docs
[09:42] <Peeps> I need Powerpoint
[09:42] <Peeps> Not Word.:(
[09:42] <erichj> I believe Presentation handles powerpoint docs
[09:42] <Peeps> Alright
[09:43] <Peeps> Oh. It's preinstalled
[09:43] <Peeps> Neat
[09:43] <erichj> yeah
[09:51] <gernot> i just read that kde on opensuse apparently doesn't have quirks (like solid tray icon backgrounds) that kubuntu has. what's up with that?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> gernot: kde4.2 doesnt do that on my system, it did on 4.1
[09:52] <ForeverSmurf> I getting the odd temporary freeze in kde 4.2 when moving files or doing other kinds of I/O. Any of you getting experiencing something similiar?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> gernot: maybe it just works better with suse, its a different OS so will be different
[09:55] <erichj> it's not a different OS.
[09:55] <mkargar> hello
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> erichj: at the base, no. but its rpm base dand made by different folks
[09:56] <mkargar> i using Kubuntu 8.04.1!i downloaded Kubuntu 8.10 DVD!how to upgrade to Kubuntu 8.10?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> erichj: and the twitch in kde may be down to the way suse is put together
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | mkargar
[09:57] <erichj> ActionParsnip: yeah it's a distribution no an OS
[09:58] <erichj> not
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> erichj: given
[09:58] <erichj> gernot: you can try suse, I have it running on my desktop but be prepared to want to pull your hair out when dealing with YAST
[09:59] <mkargar> ubottu:very thx!i should use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades ?
[10:00] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:yes!I should use the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades ?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: np man, you should make sure you check the cd is consistant first
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: this will reduce problems later
[10:02] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:ok!i downloaded DVD Kubuntu 8.10 and it not problem!
[10:02] <gernot> erichj: no way, man. :) i was just suprised that there would be distribution specific problems.
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: just making sure you are aware
[10:04] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:hmm?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: that if yuo upgrade from a bad disk its going to cause a tonne of problems
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: if you boot to the cd you can make it check itself to ensure its consistant
[10:05] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:but.my DVD is ok?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: and you can also md5 check the image you downloaded
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: you'll never know til you test it
[10:06] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:i check it & it's ok!:)
[10:06] <ForeverSmurf> what is the /var/logs/bootstrap.log file for?
[10:06] <mkargar> *checked!
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: then you are good to upgrade
[10:08] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:ok!how to upgrade to kubuntu 8.10!(I using 8.4.01!)
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: its on the factoid that ubottu gave
[10:08] <mkargar> *8.04.1
[10:09] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:it was for ubuntu!!
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> kubuntu == (ubuntu  - metacity - gnome) + kwin + kde
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: its the same system underneath
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: i can find you a kubuntu one if you want but it will be identical I promise
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: do you read the ubuntuforums for guides and help?
[10:11] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:i read only https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu!
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[10:12] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:I use kdesudo "/cdrom/cdromupgrade",but 'Commond not found''!!
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades from Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[10:13] <ForeverSmurf> anyone know of a good log view for kubuntu? I am used to monitoring only messages but kubuntu spreads everything all over the place!
[10:13] <Peeps> !commands
[10:13] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:ok!but,what is this?(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu)???
[10:14] <mkargar> Peeps::)
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: if you select intrepidupgrades you go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> mkargar: if you have the desktop cd, this isnt going to work
[10:17] <mkargar> ActionParsnip:no no!I Installed Kubuntu 8.04 from DVD and update it to 8.04.1 from internet!
[10:18] <ForeverSmurf> How easy is it to upgrade between ubuntu verions?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> ForeverSmurf: simple
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | ForeverSmurf
[10:20] <noaXess> does anybody know about mock-up tools? creating simple software scrren for development?
[10:20] <ForeverSmurf> thanks actionParsnip... looks easy. I look forward to upgrading when next version arrives
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ForeverSmurf: should be good
[10:32] <noaXess> i want install AdobeAir.bin on my linux..
[10:32] <noaXess> how can i run it?
[10:33] <noaXess> got it :)
[10:33] <noaXess> have to chmod +x it ;)
[10:36] <pucko-> Hello. How  can I make kubuntu automatically mount mtp devices? (my mp3 player)
[10:36] <tuxs> for upgrade Kubuntu 8.04.1 to 8.10!(with use DVD),I use this kdesudo "/cdrom/cdromupgrade" command!but.it error!''Command not found''??
[10:36] <pucko-> and second question... are there no kio-slaves in dolphin?
[10:37] <pucko-> tuxs, wrong path
[10:38] <tuxs> pucko-:hmm?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> tuxs: try /media/cdrom0
[10:39] <tuxs> ActionParsnip:command not found!!!
[10:40] <tuxs> ActionParsnip:?!
[10:41] <pucko-> tuxs, you need to mount the dvd first. (either click on it on konqueror/dolphin) whatever.. it should then be mounted somewhere in /media
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> tuxs: you need to run the command on the cd so wherever your cd is mounted to replace that in the guide where it says /cdrom
[10:43] <tuxs> pucko-:DVD is mounted!i runned kdesudo cdromupgrade directly from it!but,command not found!!!???
[10:44] <tuxs> ActionParsnip:i mounted from ''/media/Kubuntu 8.10 amd64''
[10:44] <tuxs> ActionParsnip:but,command not found!
[10:44] <pucko-> tuxs, oh. then you have to dig around a little more I guess...
[10:45] <tuxs> pucko-:how to solve this problem?i must upgrade to 8.10(only with DVD)!!!
[10:45] <pucko-> I'd guess cdromupgrade is a simple script, so it might be it is missing something. but you'd have to dig around then
[10:46] <pucko-> did you click on the 'cdromupgrade' or did you run it from terminal?
[10:46] <tuxs> pucko-:yes!i tested!but....:(
[10:48] <pucko-> because you need to run it as root (with kdesudo) or it wont work
[10:49] <beachsurfin> there are only 3 plasmoids to choose from when i click "install new widgets"
[10:49] <tuxs> pucko-:I tested!command not found!!!ohhhh!!
[10:50] <beachsurfin> argh, i see so many screenshots of man plasmoids, but i am STILL restricted to folder view and the notes app
[10:50] <beachsurfin> i really just want the weather app, that's all. it's not too much to ask :)
[10:52] <pucko-> tuxs, i really don't think it's hard to solve, but I have no idea how to do it from here...
[10:53] <tuxs> pucko-:oh:(
[11:38] <Walzmyn> I've just upgraded to 4.2 and my knotes plasmoid is not working - is this a known issue or did I foul something up?
[12:23] <andrea_> salve a tutti
[12:24] <cuznt> shorten: will not input data from a tty ** what is tty please?
[12:25] <JohnFlux> cuznt: the black screen where you type commands in
[12:25] <puneeth> !remove
[12:25] <puneeth> !remove gnome
[12:25] <puneeth> !gnome
[12:26] <cuznt> thats what i thought thank you.
[12:27] <cuznt> but as it is a command line only usage in unix,,, i am S O L ?
[12:46] <ccherrett> can I upgrade my version of kubuntu to the latest?
[12:47] <Billy> Hello
[12:47] <Billy> Anyone there?
[12:51] <Hattory> Hi all, can I install firefox on kubuntu without install all gnome libs?
[12:51] <Billy> Well, I really don't know man
[12:52] <Billy> But take a look at Google
[12:52] <Billy> I think you can find a solution there
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Hattory: with great difficulty
[12:52] <pipmpim-M> n,
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Hattory: let me see if theres a workaround
[12:53] <andrea_> hi
[12:53] <Hattory> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Hattory: a more useful suggestion is probably to download firefox directly from
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> mozilla.org; that "original"  firefox version doesn't contain
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> dependencies to gnome.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28468
[12:54] <Hattory> yeah... good idea :D
[12:54] <k0opa> Is it possible to install kde 4.2 via apt-get to older kubuntu
[12:55] <k0opa> I use this kde3 version thing
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> k0opa: absolutely
[12:55] <k0opa> and the command is
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[12:56] <andrea_> someone know the problem of bluetooth on intrepid?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> k0opa: you add a repo and sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade   it will come flooding down
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: its a bit hit and miss here
[12:56] <andrea_> I have read many guides
[12:56] <k0opa> hmm
[13:08] <Hattory> ActionParsnip: it works, but.... it has a very primitive style :D
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Hattory: least yu dont have all the gnome rubbish cluttering the place up, get a skin on it
[13:09] <evit> hello everyone
[13:10] <gekkoo> is anybody already using 9.04?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | gekkoo
[13:11] <gekkoo> ActionParsnip: doesn't answer my question
[13:11] <evit> I have a gateway mp6954.  It seems to only allow me to go to go beyond 1280x800
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> gekkoo: the answer is no
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> gekkoo: all talk of jaunty is in +1 so no one here will be using will they?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> gekkoo: so it kinda does, just takes some logic
[13:12] <evit> as I recall I had to download a package before and then it bumped up the resolution to something higher
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> evit: run lspci | grep -i vga
[13:13] <JuJuBee> My HD light was going nuts.  I figured it was trackerd or something. but don't see it running in system services.
[13:14] <JuJuBee> sry, System Settings -> Service Manager
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: run top and watch for a while
[13:14] <JuJuBee> I did, nothing ever got over 7%
[13:14] <evit> ActionParsnip: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[13:15] <JuJuBee> kjournald was using the most CPU
[13:15] <JuJuBee> after restart, all seems good.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> evit: try the i810 driver rather than intel in xorg.conf
[13:17] <evit> ActionParsnip: is there a package name I sould get?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> evit: its part of a standard install
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> evit: just edit xorg.conf to use the i810 driver
[13:18] <JuJuBee> Read online, sevral suggested it might be Strigi ?
[13:21] <evit> ActionParsnip: Would this work?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> try it
[13:26] <evit> ActionParsnip:  so its this package right? xserver-xorg-video-i810
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> evit: yes, but you already have it: dpkg -l | grep i810
[13:27] <evit> ActionParsnip: doesnt say I do
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> evit: then: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810
[13:28] <evit> I've got xserver-xorg-video-intel , X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx displa
[13:44] <ZmAY> need some help with installing printer on my 2nd old pc, i am running dapper, printer is samsung CLP-315
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> does no one use --purge when they remove?
[13:45] <syockit> it's the legacy from windows days
[13:45] <syockit> keep everything stored in registry, you might reuse the confs again one day
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> syockit: i know what it is, just seems weird to hold all the configs so then you gotta dpkg -P them later
[13:47] <syockit> they are optimistic that you'll reinstall the package one day...
[13:48] <ct529> is there something wrong with medibunto repository?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:52] <snarkster> wow irc on my phone! this is cool
[13:52] <ZmAY> any printer expert here?
[13:53] <ct529> BluesKaj: hi there
[13:53] <BluesKaj> expert ? orhelp
[13:53] <ct529> snarkster: phone /irc?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> hi ct529
[13:53] <ct529> ZmAY: it is better if you just ask, no expert around
[13:53] <ZmAY> i mean need some help, i dont know much about it:)
[13:53] <snarkster> since 4.2 been released things are pretty good. but still plasmoids remain after removal and reboot. solution?
[13:54] <ct529> snarkster: what phone and what irc are you using, or you will get no answer ....:D
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ZmAY, so which printer ?
[13:54] <ZmAY> i am on my second olc PC using dapper, tried to install samsung CLP-315, but no success
[13:54] <snarkster> ct529: yah i have a G1 phone.. found irc on the market thought id give it a try
[13:55] <ZmAY> i used that instructions http://foo2qpdl.rkkda.com/INSTALL
[13:55] <ct529> snarkster: on the market?
[13:55] <ct529> !dapper
[13:55] <snarkster> it works without wifi on the 3g network
[13:55] <ct529> ZmAY: wow .... that is old ....
[13:55] <BluesKaj> ZmAY, attached or network printer?
[13:55] <ZmAY> attached
[13:55] <ZmAY> on my 1st pc, with interpid works fine
[13:56] <snarkster> ct529 yah where you find apps for your G1
[13:57] <ct529> ZmAY: it looks like the printer is much newer than the software, so no drivers ....
[13:57] <cuznt> !xmms
[13:57] <snarkster> ct529 now about this answer. :D
[13:57] <ct529> ZmAY: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=printsolutions&type=printsolutions&subtype=colourprinters&model_cd=CLP-315/XEU
[13:57] <cuznt> !xmms2
[13:57]  * ct529 pings BluesKaj about a 4.2 answer for snarkster
[13:57] <Greenery> snarkster: i did that by editing the plasma configuration file
[13:57] <BluesKaj> ZmAY ,suggest you try the print wizard in system settings
[13:58] <ZmAY> just a sec
[13:59] <ZmAY> BluesKaj: i think its not there, no device no model listed
[13:59] <ct529> BluesKaj: I think the printer is very new, and the system too old .... unless you can set some emulation, or accepts some standard output (like ps)
[14:00] <BluesKaj> ct529, I agree , ZmAY ..I think you should upgrade/update your OS
[14:00] <ZmAY> ct529: might be yes
[14:00] <snarkster> greenery what editing exactly and which file. plasma.rc or ...
[14:00] <ct529> ZmAY: hey! Samsung provides an  official linux driver for the printer!!!!
[14:00] <ct529> ZmAY: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/detail/support.do?group=printsolutions&type=printsolutions&subtype=colourprinters&model_nm=CLP-315&disp_nm=CLP-315&language=&cate_type=all&dType=D&mType=DR&vType=&prd_ia_cd=06010200&model_cd=CLP-315/XEU&menu=download
[14:00] <ct529> ZmAY: just get it here
[14:00] <Greenery> snarkster: edit the configuration on plasma-appletsrc
[14:00] <ct529> ZmAY: download the driver, install it and try again .... but I would update in any case
[14:00] <Greenery> snarkster: delete the unwanted containments there
[14:01] <ZmAY> will try, tnx
[14:01] <ct529> ZmAY: BluesKaj: they also provide official utilities for linux, incredible ....
[14:01] <snarkster> greenery: ok thanx
[14:01] <Greenery> make sure u back em up first
[14:01] <Greenery> just in case it didn't work well
[14:01] <snarkster> ok off to school. have a day!
[14:02] <ct529> ZmAY: how is the quality of print? it looks like a very interesting toy!
[14:02] <BluesKaj> gadgets!..irc on a cellphone
[14:04] <ZmAY> just got it, did not print any picture yet, only text, so wait till i get it work here, then i tell:D
[14:06] <ct529> ZmAY: then try (1) install the driver or alternatively (2 - recommended) upgrade the os to 8.04 or 8.10
[14:06] <ct529> well, I need some food!
[14:07] <ZmAY> ct529: 2 - no go, to old PC, if it wont work fuck it, then i will print on the other pc
[14:07] <jussi01> !ohmy | ZmAY
[14:12] <juliebun> Hello?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> !hi | juliebun
[14:13] <juliebun> Thank you! I am the newbiest of newbies... EVER. I don't know where the best place to ask my very basic questions might be....?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> just ask juliebun
[14:15] <juliebun> Okay, my Win XP got destroyed by a trojan and I've decided to be brave and I installed Kubuntu on the hard drive. But I have no experience at all with Linux and don't know how to get my sound to work and my wireless internet.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> !wifi | juliebun
[14:16] <juliebun> Thank you, ubottu!  :)
[14:16] <BluesKaj> !ubottu
[14:17]  * ildyakonov is away: ïÔÏÛ£Ì.
[14:17] <mado> oi guys and gals :) hello there :)
[14:18] <mado> how come i always have to "activate" one of my partitions manually?
[14:18] <mado> i didn't mess around with it ... i kept everything as it was
[14:22] <BluesKaj> the windows partition . mado ?
[14:22] <mado> sorry ... system did something
[14:22] <mado> BluesKaj, it's not directly the windows-partition ... but it's a "ntfs"-one
[14:23] <mado> the windows-partition is fine ... but the one where i have my files stored ... has to be activated manually everytime
[14:24] <BluesKaj> if you have vista or W7 and linux on the same drive vista/W7 will automatically flag itself as the "boot" partiton
[14:24] <mado> no ... just ole win_xp
[14:24] <BluesKaj> hmm, could be a grub thing then
[14:26] <mado> that's something i was thinking of ... but i'm a beginner here ... i don't know if it looks right or wrong
[14:27] <BluesKaj> how do you have your partitions set up ...seperate for / and another for /home/user and ntfs ?
[14:30] <juliebun> ok I'm so lost. I can't seem to find any really basic help docs for an extreme newbie on how to set up wireless
[14:31] <BluesKaj> juliebun , mouse over the little globe in the panel near the clock , right click on it to see if you have a wifi signal
[14:31] <mado> BluesKaj, i'll show you the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ... that's one command i learned some months ago
[14:32] <BluesKaj> patebin it mado
[14:33] <mado> :))
[14:33] <mado> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117275/
[14:34] <mado> does this help you?
[14:34] <mado> BluesKaj,
[14:35] <mado> /dev/sda6            5541       18114   101000623+   7  HPFS/NTFS ... ... is the one that has to activated manually all the time
[14:36] <mado> BluesKaj, /dev/sda6 is the one :)
[14:37] <juliebun> Thank you BluesKasj.... strangely, I cannot see a clock or a globe or anything. Maybe my desktop display needs to be altered? I will try...
[14:39] <juliebun> ok can't change display because it goes all fuzzy and pixel-y...
[14:39] <BluesKaj> juliebun , are you on kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[14:39] <juliebun> kubuntu
[14:41] <yaa_> where can i get whitebuntu
[14:41] <BluesKaj> yaa_ , google it
[14:41] <yaa_> i did
[14:42] <yaa_> but didnot find
[14:42] <yaa_> found
[14:44] <mado> what kind of thing is whitebuntu ... sounds like racism to me at the moment
[14:45] <BluesKaj> mado , maybe a grub restore is in order, http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2007/08/15/linux/restore-grub-after-windows-installation
[14:45] <mado> BluesKaj, can you still give me a hand?
[14:45] <mado> :) thanks ... i'll read that
[14:47] <mado> erm ... but i installed ubuntu after windows
[14:48] <BluesKaj> no matter, do the commands anyway , it might work
[14:48] <BluesKaj> it won't do any damage
[14:49] <juliebun> wireless help anyone?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> juliebun, can you see the Kmenu , a blue icom with gear and the letter K in it ?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> icon
[14:50] <juliebun> Yes I can BluesKaj
[14:51] <BluesKaj> juliebun, click on the kmenu / applications/ system/ choose Terminal
[14:52] <mado> well ... then i have to change the commands a bit ... *thinking*
[14:52] <juliebun> Konsole Terminal?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:53] <juliebun> okay
[14:54] <yaa_> what is with my kubuntu live dvd? kde is blinking/
[14:54] <yaa_> ((
[14:54] <BluesKaj> juliebun , which kubuntu did you install ?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Intrepid or ...?
[14:55] <juliebun> the newest one(?)
[14:55] <juliebun> I'm sorry... so clueless, BluesKaj
[14:55] <juliebun> How do I tell?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> open konqueror /help/about kubuntu
[14:56] <BluesKaj> oops sorry wrong there
[14:57] <personman> maybe have her switch to a console, then back to X? shows my release name there
[14:58] <juliebun> BluesKaj, I found About KDE...
[14:58] <BluesKaj> juliebun , in the terminal:  lsb_release -a
[14:58] <personman> ooh i learned a new command today :D
[14:58] <Nemesis02> hi guys, need some assistance, I have Kubuntu 8.10 installed w/ KDE 4.2.  I'm running my system w/ multiple monitors, and my issue is, while i was at home i tried going back to 1 monitor and re-enabling desktop effects and my kde, or xorg crashed or something.  A bunch of colored lines would come up.
[14:59] <Nemesis02> I deleted the .kde-neon from my directory and kde seemed to load up fine, but now i'm missing my start bar and stuff >.<
[14:59] <Nemesis02> and the add widgets says the widgets are already active...
[15:00] <juliebun> BluesKaj, it says command not found. But I found the ISO on my mac- it's 8.10
[15:01] <BluesKaj> juliebun, ok but you must copy and paste commands in linux exactly as they appear in the text for them to work.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> no spaces in front etc
[15:03] <juliebun> Okay.. but I can't get online on the pc that has Linux installed. I only have wireless here, so am on my mac right now
[15:03] <juliebun> (with the Kubuntu sitting next to me)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> then in the terminal copy and paste this command : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , then follow the instructions by using the tab key to choose your settings ..this might seem confusing but it might help with your screen resolution
[15:05] <BluesKaj> juliebun , we'll, work on your wireless setup after you run the xorg commands
[15:05] <juliebun> Okay thank you BluesKaj
[15:15] <juliebun> BluesKaj, I followed the commands and it was all about my keyboard. The display settings are the same....
[15:16] <BluesKaj> nothing about Hardware ?
[15:17] <juliebun> no, it just kept asking about keyboard settings and then it closed
[15:19] <BluesKaj> juliebun, ok:  lspci | grep VGA  ..this command will tell us which graphics card you have, so we can down install drivers after we get your wifi working
[15:20] <BluesKaj> download and install
[15:21] <QContinueum> so i installed kde 4.2, and now most of the widgets don't work. is this normal, or did i miss something?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> QContinueum , did you sudo apt-get update after installation ?
[15:24] <juliebun> BluesKaj,  I got it. Copied it into a doc. I have to go to work now :( but thank you so much for your help! I'll be back...  :)
[15:24] <QContinueum> no, but i did run adept, and it didn't find anything
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ok juliebun , have a good day :)
[15:25] <BluesKaj> QContinueum, run update anyway
[15:26] <Skrot-> Hi, my (k)networkmanager is not working in 8.10, when I click as essid nothing happends. Does anyone know where to start the debugging?
[15:26] <QContinueum> just did. didn't find anythng new for
[15:26] <QContinueum> for me*
[15:30] <BluesKaj> QContinueum , why not just add widgets to see if they actually installed
[15:31] <rohan__> how do install GRUB,through a live CD
[15:31] <rohan__> just GRUB
[15:32] <QContinueum> yeah, i've tried. luna, weather, the blue marble earth one. It puts a widget on the desktop, but it's just a red ex and says that it could not find the requested component.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> rohan__, http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2007/08/15/linux/restore-grub-after-windows-installation
[15:35] <BluesKaj> !grub | rohan__   or this
[15:43] <Guest17739> hi
[15:54] <cuznt> i have a command line question. I am with shorten creating .wav files to burn to a cd. i must however convert (in this case) gd71-07-31d1t01 through gd71-0731d3t0108. The command is (in the approp directory) shorten -x gd71-07-31d1t01.shn gd71-07-31d1t01.wav     **question is, is there a way to batch them so i can get it all at once?
[15:54] <cuznt> i did this specific one line by line, and the next one is almost as long.
[15:59] <eli_> good afternoon
[15:59] <eli_> i installed ubuntu about a week ago
[15:59] <eli_> i managed to make everything work, besides my printer
[15:59] <eli_> its a Xerox PE 220
[16:00] <ct529> eli_: did you check the manufacturer's website for drivers?
[16:00] <eli_> i did
[16:00] <eli_> it has some ppd files
[16:00] <eli_> idk how to install them
[16:00] <eli_> but ubuntu recognizes the printer
[16:00] <eli_> and it sees it as the deafult
[16:00] <eli_> and when i want to print- the printer will warm up, but wont take the paper
[16:01] <eli_> may be if i'll manage to install the drivers it will help
[16:01] <eli_> its a tar.gz package
[16:02] <jussi01> eli_: go to localhost:631 add printer, then when you get to the bit about choosing the driver theres a feild for choosing a ppd file ;)
[16:02] <eli_> i'll try
[16:03] <eli_> what shall i write in the queue?
[16:05] <eli_> i c the place, but there is no actual ppd extension on the files
[16:05] <eli_> while the xerox website said its ppd files
[16:09] <ubuntu_> hello
[16:09] <eli_> hello
[16:09] <eli_> where can i find ppd files in a tarr.gz archieve?
[16:10] <ubuntu_> i dont know how to have anick
[16:11] <fosco__> ubuntu_, type /nick "your desired nick"
[16:12] <bobley> was easy, tankx
[16:12] <bobley> >(
[16:13] <bobley> need to change me keys
[16:13] <bobley> lol
[16:14] <eli_> can any1 tell me where i can find a PPD file for xerox pe 220?
[16:17] <eli_> does any1 know where i can find a ppd file for XEROX PE 220?
[16:17] <Herazio> goodafternoon ^^
[16:19] <eli_> hello herazio
[16:19] <Herazio> hello ! ^^
[16:19] <Herazio> How are you doing ?
[16:21] <Herazio> Hmm Video Resolution isn't really changing :|
[16:23] <shadeslayer>  how do i install grub2 in kubuntu 8.10
[16:24] <robin0800> eli there may not be one unless the printer does postscript and have you asked xerox
[16:25] <eli_> i did as xerox
[16:25] <eli_> i downloaded files
[16:25] <eli_> but its under tar.gz
[16:25] <eli_> i didnt find any PPD inside
[16:27] <eli_> any ideas?
[16:32] <skole> Hi there! After I upgraded my Kubuntu 8.10 to the latest KDE 4.2 I can't boot my 4.04 witch I have on another partition. How can I manage my partitions? I have checked the grub/ manu.list, and it doesn't show my old 8.04 system??
[16:32] <skole> *my 8.04
[16:48] <SaracenMan> Any experts with Kubuntu (KDE 4.1, Ubuntu 8.10) and multiple monitors?
[16:57] <skole> Hi! Half of my hard drive is out of reach. I have a old lap top with 40 gb disk space, but I only see 20?
[16:59] <watashi> you must to check the partition size, maybe you don't create one with all disk space
[17:00] <shadeslayer> hmmm firefox seemed to have stopped working after recent updates
[17:01] <skole> Yes, but when I try to install a new installatin, I can only use half of the disk? I can only manipulate 50 % of the machine?
[17:02] <robin0800> shadeslayer: firefox 3.0.6 works here
[17:02] <watashi> choose manual partition, undo all partition and create one ext3 for / and one for swap
[17:02] <shadeslayer> maybe needs a restart
[17:05] <shadeslayer> BTW does anybody here use GRUB2??
[17:06] <shadeslayer> !grub2
[17:11] <xp-killer> how do i install itune to put stuff on my ipod touch?
[17:17] <ubuntu_> bonjour
[17:17] <ubuntu_> y'a t il un francais
[17:17] <actos> ouep
[17:18] <Tm_T> !fr | ubuntu_
[17:18] <ubuntu_> a++
[17:25] <xp-killer> how do i install itune to put stuff on my ipod touch?
[17:25] <xp-killer> Tm_T:
[17:26] <xp-killer> ah forget it
[17:29] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Yo, you got a sec?
[17:38] <whut> How can I upgrade to KDE 4.2/OpenOffice.org 3 using only bash? (using ssh to work this one)
[17:39] <personman> i think you would need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to include a repository with those programs available, then use apt-get to install them
[17:40] <personman> if they are already in your repository, then ignore the first part
[17:41] <Guest86481> whut: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[17:41] <Guest86481> add the repo, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:45] <shadeslayer> hey i installed GRUB 2 and lost the kubuntu loading bar on startup
[17:46] <shadeslayer> the blue bar which fills up,any idea how to correct it
[17:47] <jessie> hey hey hey, guys. what's up?
[17:49] <jmcnaught> hi..  is anyone else having trouble disabling screen blanking in kde 4.2, or is it just me?
[17:51] <jmcnaught> i'm just wondering if it's a common problem.  i've disabled the screen saver, disabled screen power management, turned them back on with really high time-outs.  but i still get the screen blanking when it shouldn't.
[17:51] <personman> try opening system settings, advanced tab, power management, go to the profiles, choose performance, and set "after x minutes do blank" to nothing?
[17:52] <personman> assuming its kde4
[17:53] <jmcnaught> personman: yeah, it's kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2.  i tried that.  i also set it to do nothing when i close the laptop lid, but sometime when i open the lid it blanks three times in a row
[17:54] <jmcnaught> i was wondering if there's a daemon floating around in my session that shouldn't be... when i upgraded to 4.2 i had to remove the guidance power manager (it was running concurrently with powerdevil)
[17:58] <fomder> Hi everyone. Im having a lot of trouble. I use ubuntu 8.10 and just uninstalled firestarter firewall and then reboot my pc. Now my ineternet connection doesnt work. ifconfig shows i have a valid ip but no data transfer works, firefox, im applications, voip apps, etc. Could anyone please help ? thanks
[17:58] <zipper_> hi everyone
[17:58] <jmcnaught> i don't know what it would be... i did upgrade to 4.2 back when it was still in beta... i'm thinking about creating a new user to see if it's just a problem with the settings in my .kde folder
[18:00] <jmcnaught> fomder: firestarter is just a gui for iptables/netfilter... it probably left the iptables rules intact even after you removed the firestarter gui
[18:00] <fomder> jmcnaught thanks, what should i do then?
[18:02] <fomder> jmcnaught any ideas?
[18:02] <jmcnaught> fomder: i would suggest looking for what commands to use to clear the iptables rules
[18:04] <fomder> jmcnaught, ok, i cleared my iptables, still no luck
[18:04] <jmcnaught> fomder: have you rebooted?  it's possible that firestarter configured your system to load the iptables rules when you start the computer.  i haven't used firestarter in a while, but check and see if it left a script in /etc/init.d/
[18:06] <UnixOne> hi does somebody know if kubuntu jaunty supports ati r350 now?
[18:07] <UnixOne> 3d accelaration ^
[18:07] <chris-rc1> hi
[18:08] <chris-rc1> i'm trying to connect to my phone via bluetooth, but it seems i'm too stupid ;-)
[18:08] <chris-rc1> kbluetooth gets stuck when trying to detect the input capabilities of my phone (are there any?). can anybody help me?
[18:11] <martijn81> when i connect two usb hard disks, only one is recognized by kde
[18:11] <martijn81> what can i do about this?
[18:17] <jomder> Hi everyone. Im having some huge problems. I just uninstalled firestarter firewall and then reboot my 8.10 pc. now my internet connection does not work. ifconfig shows i have a valid ip but nothing internet related works. What can i do Thanks.
[18:20] <josesanc> hola
[18:20] <josesanc> alguno de Ciencias?
[18:21] <fosco__> !es
[18:21] <gorgonizer> chris-rc1: I am experiencing the same issue with kdebluetooth4 :(
[18:23] <ScorpKing> jomder: for now run sudo ufw disable and get it sorted soon. to enable run sudo ufw enable
[18:23] <jomder> scorpking thanks, what does that command do?
[18:24] <ScorpKing> jomder: it will disable the firewall. get it sorted if you need to have it.
[18:24] <jimdb> with kde 4.2 when I double click on a .deb file the archive manager incorrectly launches instead of the installer.  anyone have any ideas on how to resolve this?
[18:26] <ScorpKing> jimdb: install the package from konsole
[18:26] <jomder> scorpking, wow thanks, that did the trick. im going to try and install firestarter again or install guarddog perhaps
[18:26] <ScorpKing> jomder: you're welcome
[18:28] <BluesKaj> jimdb: or don't double click on it , right click and choose deb installer
[18:28] <jimdb> scorpking:  thanks, but no thanks.  I want it to work correctly.
[18:28] <shadeslayer> Qt: 3.3.8b
[18:28] <shadeslayer> KDE: 3.5.10
[18:28] <shadeslayer> kde-config: 1.0
[18:29] <ScorpKing> jomder: ok. try the forums if you don't get help here
[18:29] <shadeslayer> oh my,didnt see that coming
[18:30] <jimdb> blueskaj:  that's not an option
[18:30] <jimdb> and it worked before the latest update.
[18:33] <gorgonizer> jimdb: right click, go to Open With -> Other -> enter /usr/bin/gdebi-kde and check Remember application association for this type of file, and click OK.. (assuming gdebi-kde is installed)
[18:36] <naxa> i am trying to install hungarian language files but when generating hu_HU.UTF-8 it allways says segmentation fault. Other charsets says "up-to-date" and this is the last one, exits with segfault.
[18:38] <Jason_CO> hi guys -- how do i get into browse mode with the latest version of gwenview
[18:38] <Jason_CO> nop matter how i try to open it it opens in fullscreen view mode
[18:38] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  that works, except it has a crummy icon when opening the "open with" menu.  Plus I have some residual entries there from some attempts that didn't work.  is there a way to clean up the "open with" menu?
[18:39] <gorgonizer> jimdb: you would need to change the file associations via System Settings I believe... also, gdebi-kde has no icon for me either :(
[18:40] <gorgonizer> jimdb: System Settings -> Advanced -> File Associations :)
[18:40] <Cruster> where should I ask for my problem: my ac adapter is not recognized (powerdevil states tha my laptop is allways on battery power)
[18:41] <shadeslayer> Cruster: if the adapter is not working properly the #hardware
[18:42] <jimdb> gorgonize:  i looked there and can't find the entry for them; even doing a search.
[18:42] <gorgonizer> jimdb: I search for deb, and there was one entry for x-deb..
[18:42] <Cruster> shadeslayer: is it a linux section?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> Cruster: no a hardware section
[18:43] <gorgonizer> jimdb: should be under the application section..
[18:43] <shadeslayer> Cruster: is your adapter faulty
[18:43] <shadeslayer> ??
[18:43] <Cruster> well, my problem is with ubuntu...in mandriva for example it works fine
[18:43] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:44] <gorgonizer> jimdb: you could always add a new entry for x-deb if it is not there
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Cruster: ask in #ubuntu for a wider response
[18:44] <Cruster> oh t
[18:48] <chaac_mool> hola a todos
[18:48] <UnixOne> jaunty + ati r350 -> 3d accelleration possible now or not?
[18:48] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  i have it resolved.  the issue was that somehow the latest release of kde nightly updated the priority for the file association moving the archive manager up above the debian package manager.  I removed the extraneous entries and then set the icon for the menu entry.  all is working correclty now.
[18:49] <gorgonizer> jimdb: excellent news :)
[18:49] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  thank you for your help.
[18:49] <gorgonizer> jimdb: no problem :)
[18:49] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  now i can fix it on my laptop computer as well.  :)
[18:53] <jimdb> i do have to compliment the folks at kde for the latest kde 4.2.  with the ability to use a traditional desktop metaphor it makes this an incredibly beautiful and functional destkop manager.  I easily puts Vista's and Win7's interfaces to shame.  I'd encourage everyone to move to kde 4.2 and show it off to everyone they know.
[18:54] <mkargar> hello
[18:55] <mkargar> i have DVDrom and DVDWR!both device mounting in /media/!how to mounte DVDRom to /CDrom?
[18:56] <mkargar> *mount
[18:56] <whut> apt-get would install a package that is corrupt (aborted download) no matter what I do. I tried so far apt-get clean, apt-get --purge remove <packagename>, apt-get autoclean. Nothing works. What should I do?
[18:58] <mkargar> ?
[18:59] <whut> ?
[18:59] <whut> mkargar: I was downloading a package to install using apt-get.
[18:59] <whut> mkargar: Connection dropped.
[19:00] <whut> mkargar: Now, when I want to install it - it tries to install it from that corrupt package.
[19:00] <voicu> can I move my apt cache in a different directory?
[19:01] <voicu> I mean make apt cache somewhere else?
[19:03] <ScorpKing> voicu: yes
[19:03] <fosco__> whut, sudo aptitude clean && sudo aptitude autoclean && sudo apt-get install package
[19:04] <ScorpKing> voicu: there is a option in the config file. it is in /etc/apt-cacher.conf i think
[19:04] <voicu> hm, ok
[19:04] <ScorpKing> voicu: uhm.. wait
[19:04] <voicu> do I need some special privileges to the new dir?
[19:04] <ScorpKing> voicu: i'm talking about apt-cacher, soz
[19:05] <ScorpKing> voicu: make another directory somewhere and link it to /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:05] <fosco__> voicu, it has to be drwxr-xr-x root root
[19:08] <voicu> ok, how i link it? make /var/cache/apt/archives point to the new one?
[19:08] <voicu> then i have to rm the old one, right?
[19:08] <voicu> also, is there a problem if the new dir is on a different partition?
[19:09] <voicu> *do I
[19:09] <petsounds> well, i wanna upgrade to kde 4.2 and im using intrepid, i have read the instructions but just cant understand how to uninstalling plasmoid. can anybody here tell me what to do?
[19:12] <jimdb> mkargar: sudo apt-get clean
[19:12] <mkargar> jimdb:what?
[19:13] <mkargar> jimdb:what this command?
[19:13] <hubar> petsounds, why do you wanna uninstall plasmoid?
[19:13] <jimdb> it will clean your download archive
[19:13] <jimdb>    clean - Erase downloaded archive files
[19:13] <jimdb>    autoclean - Erase old downloaded archive files
[19:13] <petsounds> the instructions told me to
[19:14] <mkargar> jimdb:hmm!but,my question not this!
[19:15] <jimdb> your problem was that when you try to reinstall it uses an older corrupt version of the downloaded .deb file.  that command will erase the corrupted file.
[19:15] <mkargar> jimdb:my question:i have DVDrom and DVDWR!both device mounting in /media/!how to mounte DVDRom to /CDrom path?
[19:16] <petsounds> hubar : any advice?
[19:16] <jimdb> then maybe you aren't the person I was responding to.  and I can't fix that specific problem for you.
[19:17] <hubar> petsounds, I didn't do anything myself. I think you can safely overwrite them.
[19:17] <mkargar> petsounds:DVDROM!
[19:17] <mkargar> jimdb:D
[19:18] <khalid> sala de español
[19:18] <khalid> porfa
[19:18] <khalid> pliz
[19:19] <petsounds> hubar : are you sure?
[19:20] <hubar> petsounds, no i am not. :) Take my adicvice with a grind of salt. :)
[19:21] <gorgonizer> petsounds: as far as I can tell, you don't need to do anything with regards to the plasmoids...
[19:22] <petsounds> thanks hubar & gorgonizer. ill try
[19:23] <ScottK-laptop> KDE 4.2 has libplasma3.  KDE 4.1 has libplasma2.  Any plasmoid compiled for libplasma2 in 4.1 will nt work well with 4.2.
[19:23] <ScottK-laptop> So any that aren't in the kubuntu-experimental repo should be removed if you upgrade.
[19:24] <whut> How do I upgrade KDE4.1 to KDE4.2 using apt-get?
[19:24] <petsounds> hey scott, can you teach me more details
[19:25] <UnixOne> whut http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[19:25] <ScottK-laptop> Unless you want to get involved in development, there really isn't more to know.
[19:25] <UnixOne> whut do it that way ;)
[19:25] <gorgonizer> whut: after adding the kubuntu experimental repo, you should just need to do   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:25] <whut> I need to do this over ssh, this way doesn't work.
[19:26] <UnixOne> whut otherwise you need to edit /etc/apt/sources....
[19:26] <mkargar> how to choose /cdrom path as default for DVDRom?
[19:26] <UnixOne> I have jaunty kubuntu with latest updates
[19:26] <UnixOne> somehow it feels as if something is missing..
[19:26] <UnixOne> 3D :D
[19:26] <whut> UnixOne: What should I add there?
[19:26] <UnixOne> whut follow the guide
[19:26] <whut> o
[19:26] <whut> k
[19:27] <petsounds> scott, how can to remove the plasmoid that u said wont fit
[19:27] <UnixOne> kde4.2 is wow, but it doesnt install bluetooth altough I have a  bluetooth desktop..
[19:28] <UnixOne> the system-settings is missing some elements, kuser in example etc.
[19:28] <gorgonizer> petsounds: What ScottK-laptop is true, but if you only have the standard plasmoids from 4.1 i think theya re upgraded automatically.. what ScottK-laptop said only applies if you have built plasmoids that weren't part of the standard plasmoid set afaik..
[19:28] <ScottK-laptop> Yes, the Main (default install) plasmoids were rebuilt.
[19:29] <ScottK-laptop> It's only ones you added yourself you need to worry about.
[19:29] <ScottK-laptop> petsounds: sudo apt-get remove plasmoid-foo or use adept.
[19:30] <UnixOne> If  microsoft would make DX11 opensource and Ubuntu would integrate it. Kubuntu 9 would be the most awesome os in the world
[19:30] <UnixOne> but directx is microsofts joker
[19:30] <UnixOne> somehow OpenGL failed on this way
[19:32] <phobos_idle> microsoft won't opensource their stuff. to do so would open them up to all kinds of lawsuits for ip infrindgement
[19:34] <petsounds> so i dont have to remove the plasmoid. right gorgonizer?
[19:35] <lamer> abend
[19:35] <gorgonizer> petsounds: if you have only installed the standard plasmoids from 4.1, you should be able to upgrade without incident... in Adept, search for plasmoids to see if any plasmoid-* packages are installed, if not,t hen go ahead with the upgrade ;)
[19:35] <iargue> hi everyone!
[19:36] <iargue> i have and urgent question...
[19:36] <iargue> an*
[19:36] <lamer> hiho
[19:36] <phobos_idle> iargue: so ask
[19:36] <iargue> this is what i get..
[19:36] <iargue> "/etc/default/dhcp3-server: 9: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string"
[19:36] <petsounds> merci beaucoup, gorgonizer
[19:36] <iargue> why?
[19:37] <gorgonizer> petsounds: np :)
[19:37] <iargue> pleez help meee
[19:39] <iargue> c'mon!
[19:40] <iargue> doh!
[19:40] <gorgonizer> iargue: I have never used dhcp3-sever, but it would seem that somewhere int he file there is a coding issue..
[19:40] <iargue> oh...
[19:41] <iargue> ehhem...
[19:41] <gorgonizer> iargue: it could be on line 9, but I cannot be 100% certain :)
[19:43] <iargue> thank yew! :)
[19:44] <gorgonizer> iargue: have you fixed the issue?
[19:44] <iargue> well...
[19:44] <iargue> i'm on it
[19:44] <gorgonizer> iargue: good luck :)
[19:44] <iargue> but i made mee further
[19:44] <iargue> thanks pal!
[19:44] <iargue> :)
[19:45] <SuspectZero> hey there
[19:46] <SuspectZero> how do i figure out wht version of kubuntu i have? like fiesty and what not
[19:46] <gorgonizer> SuspectZero: the easiest way would be to check in /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:48] <SuspectZero> intrepid?
[19:48] <gorgonizer> SuspectZero: that would be the same version I am on then.. the latest stable release (8.10)
[19:49] <SuspectZero> oic. one more question. do you know how to install e17 window manager
[19:51] <gorgonizer> SuspectZero: e16 is in the repos, just checking for e17 ubuntu packages on-line..
[19:51] <SuspectZero> ah ok
[19:51] <SuspectZero> i think i found it
[19:51] <SuspectZero> thanks though
[19:52] <umar> hello
[19:52] <gorgonizer> SuspectZero: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=E17+cvs should have the info you want.. :)
[19:52] <SuspectZero> thank you
[19:53] <umar> any one know plzzzzzzz how to download vlc player
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> its in the multiverse repo umar.  enable the  multiverse repo. and 'sudo apt-get intall vlc'
[19:54] <umar> send me link plzzzzz
[19:54] <umar> iam now
[19:55] <umar> new on ubuntu
[19:56] <umar> tell me plzzzzzz if any on know the link of vlc player
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> use the add/remove progerams icon perhaps.. or the 'package manager'  "Adept" and    you should be able to install it
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> you do NOT normally go to a web site and 'download' a program.. You use the package manager tools and let them do it
[19:56] <slow-motion> hi
[19:57] <umar> ok ill try but its not showing  just km and movie player is there
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> You MUST enable the 'multiverse' repositories. Theres proberly some check box you have to click.. depending on wha ttool you are usng
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Im not in kde at the moment. so i cant walk ya through it.
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> !repo | umar
[19:59] <umar> ok
[20:00] <umar> nope
[20:01] <umar> not there iam using ubuntu 8.10
[20:02] <gorgonizer> umar: if you are using Ubuntu (i.e. Gnome desktop) you will need to enable the Multiverse repository via Synaptic Package Manager...
[20:03] <umar> ok ill try
[20:05] <umar> nope
[20:06] <gades> hello there
[20:06] <yaa_> hi
[20:11] <zipper> hi
[20:11] <zipper> who can help me
[20:12] <quicken2k> any winamp clones for Kubuntu?
[20:14] <Charles> zipper:  ask your question
[20:14] <gorgonizer> quicken2k: xmms2 might do it... I tend to use Amarok myself..
[20:15] <gorgonizer> quicken2k: though I know of no direct winamp clones..
[20:15] <quicken2k> where can I get it?
[20:15] <whut> I have updated to KDE4.2 using the method from the site, however, during boot I still see KDE4.1 - is it a normal thing?
[20:15] <gorgonizer> quicken2k: Amarok and XMMS2 should be in the repositories..
[20:16] <quicken2k> k thx
[20:20] <gorgonizer> whut: check the version of KDE by going to the Help menu in Dolphin or Konqueror..
[20:21] <jimdb> whut:  you need to change your session
[20:21] <whut> To KDE 4.2?
[20:22] <gorgonizer> whut: did you reboot after the upgrade, or just restart the X-server?
[20:22] <jimdb> whut:  so you  had kde 4.2 installed then installed kde 4.2 via the kde nightly instructions?
[20:22] <whut> I mean, during login?
[20:22] <jimdb> whut:  err 4.1
[20:23] <jimdb> at the point where you type in your username and password, yes
[20:24] <jimdb> no answer?
[20:25] <DarkEra> Hello, i seem to have a little problem with Konqueror and the flashplugin. It doesn't seem to load the Youtube video's and other stuff from websites. Is there anything to solve this problem?
[20:26] <jimdb> darkera:  which version?  the open source version or the one from adobe.com?
[20:27] <DarkEra> jimdb it's the flashplugin-nonfree
[20:28] <jimdb> did you try to install the downloaded version from www.adobe.com?  there's a .deb installer there for linux.
[20:28] <DarkEra> Tried that also and it didn't solve the problem
[20:29] <gorgonizer> DarkEra: are you on 32 or 64 bit?
[20:29] <DarkEra> 32 bit
[20:29] <jimdb> darkera:  have you tried the same thing with firefox?
[20:29] <DarkEra> firfox doesn't have problems with it
[20:29] <gorgonizer> DarkEra: the flashplugin-nonfree works in Konqueror for me on 32bit..
[20:30] <DarkEra> not in my case
[20:30] <gorgonizer> DarkEra: have you ensured that it has been found in the Plugins section of the Konqueror Settings?
[20:30] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  he has indicated that flash is installed properly and works.  his issue then is with how he has konqueror set up.
[20:30] <DarkEra> yes gorgonizer, i checked that also
[20:31] <gorgonizer> jimdb: I bow to your superior knowledge..
[20:32] <quassel27> hello
[20:32] <jimdb> gorgonizer: lol
[20:32] <quassel27> !list
[20:32] <jimdb> darkera:  does any other flash site work in konqueror?
[20:32] <jado> hi, i'm trying to launch a file.jar with java -jar file.jar but i've got this : "No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it."
[20:32] <DarkEra> jimdb 50/50
[20:33] <DarkEra> some parts load some not
[20:33] <jimdb> darkera:  some parts?  you mean some videos do and others don't?
[20:33] <DarkEra> video do not load
[20:34] <jimdb> darkera: i'm confused.  I thought you said some worked 50/50
[20:34] <DarkEra> on a site for example www.enigmamusic.com some pics won't even load
[20:36] <jimdb> darkera:  i guess my question more precisely is:  using konqueror, on any site that uses flash to play vidoe, does the video playback?
[20:36] <DarkEra> no
[20:40] <luis_> hi there can somebody help me pls i have a DELL EVO D510 SFF 2.4 Ghz , hd 120 i just upgrade to KUbuntu intrepid, but i lost my screen resolution and it is not as an option on system setting, the resolution i got is 640X480 can somebody tell me how to get back my screen resolution 1024X768???????????
[20:41] <lum_sais> jado, are you using a different user than the one which you logged in ?
[20:43] <DarkEra> sigh, i give it up. Someone on the dutch ubuntu channel know the answer to my problem but refuses to give it.
[20:44] <Shaun> is it possible to have kickoff display application names first before the description?
[20:49] <jimdb> does anyone know how to add the home and trash icon to the kde 4.2 desktop?
[20:53] <slhk> jimdb: open Dolphin file manager, drag and the icon from the "places"  column and drop it on the desktop
[20:54] <sorset> hi, im using kde4.2, and changed desktop to folder view, but i cant find file by press fist character of it's name, is'nt it possibe?
[20:55] <luis_> so any one in here can help me out plas i got his problem: hi there can somebody help me pls i have a DELL EVO D510 SFF 2.4 Ghz , hd 120 i just upgrade to KUbuntu intrepid, but i lost my screen resolution and it is not as an option on system setting, the resolution i got is 640X480 can somebody tell me how to get back my screen resolution 1024X768???????????
[20:55] <slhk> sorset: may be a problem with focus, try to click on an empty place on your desktop and then press the character
[20:56] <petsounds> luis kdesudo nvidia-settings
[20:56] <sorset> slhk: no, you dont have this problem?
[20:57] <jimdb> slhk:  i have the same problem.
[20:57] <slhk> sorset: I'm no using the folder view myself, but the focus thing is quite common
[20:57] <jimdb> slhk:  sorry, i meant sorset:  i have the same problem.
[20:58] <ch0mik> hi
[20:58] <jimdb> slhk:  your suggestion regarding dragging from places doesn't work.  i open dolphin, locate the icon which shows the various places when I click on it, i try to drag but nothing happens.
[20:58] <ch0mik> i wonder if anyone know why does arial font look like this under ff: http://targetwire.com/tomek/arial_squeezed_ff.png
[20:59] <ch0mik> it's squeezed
[20:59] <luis_> petsoounds what do you mean sorry do i type that on terminal??
[20:59] <slhk> jimdb: drag the home and trash entries, one at a time, not all the places
[21:00] <slhk> jimdb: here it open a little menu, you should then choose "icon"
[21:00] <jimdb> slhk:  lol, of course, that's what I did.
[21:01] <hubar> ch0mik, Try change your font hinting to slightest.
[21:01] <hubar> ch0mik, I don't remember in detail, but I think that fixed the font on my kubuntu.
[21:01] <ch0mik> hubar, is it ffs or kdes setting?
[21:01] <z1pp3r> Im curious about the minimal CD. Does it only install a very very limited basic install (which i want), or does it just download the whole default installation? The minimalCD page isnt very clear
[21:01] <hubar> KDE
[21:01] <hubar> got o appearaces
[21:01] <hubar> thenf ont
[21:02] <hubar> then on the bottom, there is the hinting setting'
[21:04] <ch0mik> hubar, thanks... testing..
[21:09] <morfdor> Hi everyone. Ive been happily using ubuntu for a year now but decided its time to format and reinstall.. I have my home and / root in different partitions. How can i install ubuntu on the same root partition and keep on using my same home partition without deleting its files? Thanks
[21:11] <gorgonizer> morfdor: during the install you will need to use the manual partition option, then format the root partition (and relabel it is root) and only relabel you current home partition as home (but don't format it)..
[21:11] <blahjake> morfdor: backup your home before you try anything
[21:11] <jhutchins_wk> morfdor: What he said.
[21:12] <morfdor> gorgonizer and others, thanks. so i can choose to keep on using my ssame home partition and not format it or will i have to create a new home partition and transfer over the files form the old home partition?
[21:13] <sourcemaker> is there a good mp3 player for kubuntu...? And no... I HATE AMAROK!
[21:14] <martijn81> sourcemaker: listen?
[21:14] <sourcemaker> martijn81: manage large mp3 collections (not possible with juk) and listen...
[21:15] <gorgonizer> morfdor: it is an option in the manual partition manager, they will be currently set to be unused when you first open the manual partition system, change home to use whichever filesystem it currently has, rteset the partition to be home, but ensure the format option is set to no :)
[21:15] <gorgonizer> morfdor: but if you have the space, I would recommend backing up the home partition..
[21:15] <morfdor> gorgonizer, yeah thats a good idea. thanks man
[21:15] <gorgonizer> morfdor: no problem :)
[21:16] <hubar> sourcemaker, Isn't that amarok is designed for?
[21:16] <sourcemaker> martijn81: the old amarok version has a nice user interfaces... but is very unstable... the new one seems to be stable... but looks very ugly... :-)
[21:18] <gorgonizer> sourcemaker: in terms of Amarok stability, I found 1.4 to be more stable than 2.0.1.1... that is why I use the project-neon version of amarok 2..
[21:19] <gorgonizer> sourcemaker: but you could try exaile, which is a GTK version of Amarok..
[21:20] <sourcemaker> gorgonizer: I will try the project-neon version...
[21:20] <sourcemaker> gorgonizer: can you give me the apt source?
[21:20] <sourcemaker> !amarok
[21:21] <gorgonizer> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ppa/ubuntu/ intrepid main is the repo..
[21:21] <gorgonizer> sourcemaker: I think   gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 778978B00F7992B0 && gpg --export -a 778978B00F7992B0 | apt-key add -   will add the auth-key for it..
[21:26] <chris__> how can i access files on my phone via bluetooth?
[21:27] <cjae> !jaunty
[21:37] <sourcemaker> gorgonizer: wow... why is this package so huge? 108MB?
[21:38] <gorgonizer> sourcemaker: on that I am unsure, the dbg package is huge as well...
[21:54] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  i'm using the project neon for kde 4.2.  the way he builds the packages cuts down on a lot of needless clutter.  project neon seems much more stable than the experimental version of kde 4.2 from kubuntu
[21:56] <gorgonizer> jimdb: my system is currently running a mixture of the experimental and project-neon packages.. after adding the nightly packages, the system does seem more stable, I admit.. would you recommend removing the experimental repo and just using the project-neon packages alone?
[21:57] <jimdb> gorgonizer: if you know how.
[21:57] <jimdb> i have left mine alone.
[21:57] <martijn81> when i connect two usb hard disks, only one is recognized by kde
[21:57] <martijn81> what can i do about this?
[21:59] <hubar> jimdb, what is project neon?
[22:01] <gorgonzola> hello. i am trying to install kimldonkey on kde 4.2, but apt complains that kmldonkey dependes on libplasma2, which has been deprecated by kde 4.2. is there any way to install the package? (download and change the deps?)
[22:01] <wrt_> Hi )))
[22:01] <jimdb> hubar:  though it doesn't have nightly builds it does have regular updates.  it is essentially kde 4.2 without having to use kubuntu's repositories.
[22:04] <martijn81> gorgonzola: yeah, you could compile from source
[22:04] <jimdb> does anyone know how to get the systray widget to update more frequently?  it appears to have a bug where, if you remove a program from it (by closing the program) the icon to the left of the one you closed will sit atop the remnant icon from the one you closed.
[22:04] <hubar> jimdb, It has its own repository?
[22:04] <gorgonzola> . . .
[22:05] <jimdb> hubar:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-install-kde-42/
[22:05] <gorgonizer> hubar: yes it does,     deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ppa/ubuntu/ intrepid main
[22:05] <gorgonzola> matijn81: you mean download the source with apt and build a custom deb?
[22:05] <jimdb> hubar:  yes
[22:05] <gorgonzola> gorgonizer: dude where did you get your nick from?
[22:06] <gorgonizer> gorgonzola: A band from Nottingham called Iron Monkey performed a song called Supagorgonizer..
[22:06] <gorgonizer> hubar: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 778978B00F7992B0 && gpg --export -a 778978B00F7992B0 | apt-key add -   will add the auth-key for it I believe..
[22:07] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  key for what?
[22:08] <gorgonizer> jimdb: to stop the authentication warning for packages from the project-neon repository
[22:09] <gorgonizer> jimdb: to be honest, I shoehorned that command together, but it seemed to work :)
[22:11] <jimdb> i have k/ubuntu installed on may 7 machines here and have been migrating them to kde 4.2.  On this machine I must have had it in place, so I got an error.  On a couple other machines I get that warning.  Now to get that command issued on each machine.
[22:11] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  that was meant for you  :)
[22:11] <gorgonzola> ok, new question: how can i modify the dependencies of a souorce package?
[22:12] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  this machine is my multimedia box.  i have it attached to a 32" TV using a DVI to HDMI cable.  I use it with boxee, xbmc, vlc, my iphone remote apps, and use it as a phone via skype.
[22:12] <gorgonizer> jimdb: thought so, hope it is the right command, if so, that warning will be a thing of the past :)
[22:13] <jimdb> it look awesome and is awesome.
[22:13] <gorgonizer> jimdb: that sounds one hell of a setup :)
[22:14] <jimdb> gorgonizer: i used parts I had laying around.  I only had to buy the dvi to hdmi cable, the iphone apps ($2.00 a piece) and the TV (which I essentially already had)...so it didn't cost much.
[22:14] <jimdb> it worked well under gnome, but it looks awesome and works well under kde 4.2
[22:15] <gorgonizer> jimdb: I can imagine teat KDE 4.2 must look superb on a screen that size :)
[22:16] <ikazmi> hi every1
[22:17] <ikazmi> has any1 been able to get a pcmcia card working under 9.04?
[22:17] <ikazmi> i got a audigy 2 zs pcmcia sound card and its not working
[22:18] <jessie> Hey, can you guys hear me?
[22:18] <jimdb> gorgonizer:  my main box is a linux box also with a 24" HD lcd widescreen monitor. it looks very good there too. but I use this one for hulu, boxee, xbmc, dvds, AVIs.  I was reading a slashdot.org post the other day where they were discussing someone's project to create something similar to this.  my costs were 1/2 of his.
[22:18] <ikazmi> (it doesnt even seem to trigger any remove or insert events)
[22:19] <ikazmi> ?
[22:19] <jimdb> ikazmi:  i believe you have to compile the sound driver from source which you get at creativelabs website.
[22:19] <jimdb> ikazmi:  and I don't believe linux has the same sort of triggered events like winxp/vista has.
[22:20] <ikazmi> jimdb: but shouldn't lspci or dmesg have something to show that new hardware was added
[22:21] <ikazmi> jimdb: i remember from slackware days that when a usb was plugged in but there was something wrong with it, dmesh would have kernel messages
[22:21] <ikazmi> jimdb: in this case there is nothing...as if i haven't even plugged it in, same with lspci
[22:22] <ikazmi> ?
[22:24] <jimdb> ikazmi:  i have a creativelabs card and was able to get the sound to work by compiling the drivers.  i don't remember if lspci showed it listed.
[22:24] <jimdb> ikazmi:  though I have a card similar to yours I don't use it.
[22:26] <ikazmi> jimdb: which version of kubuntu are you using?
[22:33] <wildbat> Hihi
[22:34] <theunixgeek> How do I set up Kmail to display HTML messages properly?
[22:35] <carpii> what do you mean, properly ?
[22:36] <carpii> try settings -> configure kmail -> security tab -> reading -> prefer html tickbox
[22:36] <wildbat> >.>b use Thunderbird ! XD
[22:37] <carpii> kmail is pretty nice. I used thunderbird on windows for a coupla years but it always felt klunky :/
[22:37] <theunixgeek> carpii: so it actually displays HTML formatting
[22:38] <carpii> ok well try what i said above
[22:38] <carpii> that should do it
[22:38] <theunixgeek> carpii: oh, I didn't see that; I'll try it
[22:39] <theunixgeek> ah, that's better :)
[22:39] <theunixgeek> thanks, carpii
[22:39] <carpii> np :)
[22:40] <theunixgeek> :)
[22:40] <derdui> hi, does anybody know, if oovoo runs under linux? didnt find anything with google
[22:40] <wildbat> neverone here know about smb? ~ i am trying to auto mounting the all the sharepoints ~ is that a program or script can do that ?
[22:40] <zer0o> hi, how do i format completely in ext3 or fat32 an external hard drive?
[22:41] <carpii> wildbat, you can put it in your /etc/fstab if you install package smbfs
[22:43] <zer0o> hi, how do i format completely in ext3 or fat32 an external hard drive? from a terminal
[22:43] <carpii> use mkfs
[22:44] <wildbat> carpii: yea but what i mean auto is it detect and smbshares and mount it ~
[22:44] <zer0o> carpii: could u plz explain further?
[22:45] <carpii> wildbat, ok i dont know how to autodetect samba shares, sorry
[22:45] <carpii> zer0 try something like this http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html
[22:45] <zer0o> kk
[22:46] <wildbat> carpii: is ok ^^
[22:47] <wildbat> guess i have to figureout a script..... hmmmm
[22:49] <carpii> the problem is if you have a samba share and it suddenly goes offline, things tend to lock up
[22:49] <carpii> so i only really use samba for locations i know will always be available really
[22:50] <wildbat> yea ~ that give me headache XD
[22:52] <psyco> hey, im trying to install kde 4.2 on 8.10 but in adept i get this error
[22:53] <psyco> http://pastebin.com/mb2f7271
[22:53] <psyco> and i click OK and get this
[22:53] <psyco> http://pastebin.com/m68c1bbcc
[22:54] <cjae> !virtualbox
[22:55] <psyco> libplasma3 isn't in my repos
[22:57] <zer0o> carpii: ok after having it formatted there's a folder in it called lost+found that i cant open, whatz that?
[22:57] <cjae> psyco: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> psyco,  thats normal - leave lost+found alone.
[22:58] <zer0o> Dr_Willis: ok ok but i'd like to no what it is
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> Its used by the fsck tools
[22:58] <KWGoD> ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!
[22:59] <KWGoD> Stack Trace:
[22:59] <KWGoD> 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037)
[22:59] <KWGoD> 1:()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 2:()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 3:()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 4:epsGetAttr([object Object],hidden)
[22:59] <KWGoD> 5:()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 6:()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 7:currentEngine()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 8:get_currentEngine()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 9:updateDisplay()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 10:init()
[22:59] <KWGoD> 11:([object XULElement],11)
[22:59] <KWGoD> help?
[22:59] <jasonR> Hey Gang. Issues with sound on an HP Pavilion 061. the snd_intel_hda driver is loaded, but the mixer (don't matter which) does not have a volume slider. It only shows... IEC958
[23:00] <psyco> cjae: I know that, thats what I used
[23:00] <psyco> Dr_Willis: so should I just ignore it?
[23:00] <cjae> psyco: hang on
[23:01] <zer0o> Dr_Willis: i didnt ask who or what uses it, i asked what it is
[23:01] <carpii> KWGod, dont paste big blocks
[23:01] <zer0o> nevermind
[23:01] <psyco> !pastebin
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> zer0o,  its where lost and found files by fsck go.
[23:02] <psyco> brb gonna reboot X
[23:03] <zer0o> Dr_Willis: ok so its a system folder, got it
[23:03] <cjae> psyco: I just had those issues on another box, but cant remember the steps I used to fix, I had to sudo apt-get -f install, then sudo dpkg --configure -a, then... I have to find the website again I had to just get to the login page and then reconfigure kde but can't remember the command
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> 'system folder' another vague term. that means very little - heh.
[23:04] <zer0o> is anyone able to help with XANDROS?
[23:04] <cjae> wow
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> Xandros should ahve their own channel. Last i used xandos was years+ ago.. and it wasent very impressive then.
[23:05] <zer0o> "system folder" to me means a folder that has to be where it is, not something coming from the previous winxp s**t :D
[23:05] <jasonR> Dr_Willis, you any good at trouble-shooting hardware issues? :-)_  This sound card is kickin' my butt!
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. from Distrowatch homepage.. last xandros release was in 2006 - Ick
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> jasonR,  depends on the issue i guess.
[23:05] <jasonR> Oops! Wrong Nick! I'm shelled into his machine. Let's 'fix' that...
[23:06] <zer0o> it isnt on my machine, it's a friend's i run kubuntu, she's got this mini eeepc. ridiculous but she needs some help and thus im here on google, forums and chats LOL
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> Xandros Acquires Linspire, 07-02-2008 - Hmm.. i never noticed that. :)
[23:06] <KWGoD> i ned help with firefox
[23:06] <KWGoD> need*
[23:06] <Zirg> Dr_Willis, it's an HP box that DID have sound on the first install, but KDE4 was buggy so we stepped back to 8.04.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> I use the eeebuntu variant on my Net-book. it works very well.
[23:07] <Zirg> Dr_Willis, it has the snd_hda_intel driver loaded, but the mixers (all) do NOT have a slider to adjust the audio (yes, /dev/mixer exists and no others) and the only thing showing in the mixer is  IEC958
[23:07] <zer0o> this one is superslow its a mini pc i'll show u www.eeeuser.com
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> xandros homepage shows one also. :)
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> I find my AcerAspireOne to be quite snappy in Ubuntu+gnome.
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> it even does XP very well.
[23:08] <zer0o> sure :D its pretty much the only pc on earth where they put it lol
[23:08] <Zirg> Dr_Willis, http://pastebin.com/f472109d    is the output of lsmod | grep snd
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> Zirg,  so has sound ever worked on this thing in 8.04? Try a 8.04 live cd/ubuntu cd?
[23:09] <Zirg> Dunno. Let me ask....
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> Zirg,  its possible its just some mixer/slider setting. you could try that console based alsa-mixer tool instead of the kde ones
[23:10] <Zirg> Dr_Willis, hmmm. seems he's unsure if it EVER worked. :-(  Okay, wished there was a way to shell into his BIOS screens with him! :-(
[23:11] <zer0o> Dr_Willis: so r u able to help me in mounting this external hard drive on xandros? is driving me nuts!
[23:12] <carpii> zer0, do you know the device name of it?
[23:12] <zer0o> carpii: before it was sdc
[23:12] <carpii> before what?
[23:13] <Zirg> Dr_Willis, Thanks. I  will get him into the CMOS again and try some other settings. Good Coding, Dawg!
[23:13] <zer0o> carpii: when i plug it in (and ive just format it with ext3 on my kubuntu on another machine) it says "the path /home/user/1600BEV External does not exist" i dont get it
[23:14] <zer0o> carpii: anyway i just gave an mkdir "/home/user/1600BEV External" lets see what happens
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> zer0o,  when in doubt - fall back to the command line and mount it manually. look for errors.
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> zer0o,  you DID make the mount point directory?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> DONT use spaces in the filename/directory name.. it will cause issues
[23:14] <zer0o> Dr_Willis: im trying but it seems this Xandros has different commands
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> xandros is based on debian..it better have the 'mount' command
[23:15] <zer0o> i haven't decided it myself its what it pops out when plugged it in
[23:15] <zer0o> yes it does have it
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> HAL/the automounting stuff may be trying tobe cute with the path name. if the volume name has a Space in the name.
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> It just makes life MUCH easier if you eliminate such spaces.
[23:16] <zer0o> just to make sure ive done a mkdir "/home/user/1600BEV External" since before it was saying it wasnt finding it i created it lets see (just plugged in)
[23:16] <zer0o> Dr_Willis: i haven't decided it myself its what it pops out when plugged it in
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> thats HAL deciding to do things.. You can still mount it manually i imagine whever you want
[23:17] <zer0o> i dunno the name of it otherwise i'd had done a "pmount sdX"
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> Im suprised its trying to mount to /home/USERNAME/anything
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> seems that /mnt or /media would be the proper place for it to mount stuff to
[23:19] <zer0o> i agree
[23:19] <zer0o> so what should i do? litterally
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> sudo mkdir /media/THEDRIVE
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> sudo mount /dev/WHATEVER /media/THEDRIVE
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> and see if it mounts
[23:20] <zer0o> yes i no that but i dunno the name Doc
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> to see all attatched drives
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> or chedk 'dmesg' command whenya plug it in
[23:24] <zer0o> Dr_Willis: ok this is really weird, when plugged in i gave "fdisk -l" and 4 devices came out sde1-2-3-4 and relative info bout them, then i unplugged it, re-gave "fdisk -l" and it says bas: fdisk: command not found" what the heck???
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> use sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> usb drives might be shown by a user running fdisk.
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> sounds liek the thing may be sde## in your case
[23:27] <zer0o> alright it says "Disk /dev/sda: 4001mb, 4000....... bytes" 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 486 cylinders"
[23:27] <zer0o> then Device Boot
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> sda is proberly the internal hard drive.
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> sdb+ will be what others you got plugged in
[23:28] <zer0o> i dont think so cuz after this one it shows its own partitions
[23:28] <zer0o> sda1
[23:28] <zer0o> sda2
[23:28] <zer0o> till 4
[23:28] <zer0o> and each one START at some number and END and some other consequentially with the others
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> a hard drive can have up to 4 primary partitions normally.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> 1 hard drive = sda1 through whatever...
[23:29] <zer0o> okokok after a long amount of time
[23:29] <zer0o> its finally appeard
[23:29] <zer0o> its name si sdc
[23:29] <zer0o> as before
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> it takes a few sec for a usb drive ti get seen after its plugged in.
[23:30] <zer0o> actually it says Disk /dev/sdc: 160 gb etc etc
[23:30] <zer0o> and below it goes
[23:30] <zer0o> dev/sdc1
[23:30] <zer0o> whatz itz name then?
[23:30] <zer0o> :D
[23:30] <zer0o> LOL
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> sdc1
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> logically :)
[23:30] <zer0o> ok cool
[23:30] <zer0o> sorry im not that logical with linux
[23:31] <Dr_Willis>  sdc is the drive.. sdc1 is the partition ON THE DRIVE
[23:31] <zer0o> started to use it like 2 moths ago :D
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> thats the thing to rember
[23:31] <zer0o> ok thanks
[23:31] <zer0o> so now its mounted
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> a cdrom would be just 'sdc'
[23:31] <zer0o> cuz theres no partition
[23:35] <zer0o> Dr_Willis: alright i went to /dev/disks/Removable/ where there are "sdb" which i dunno what it is and "sdc" (not sdc1 though) tried to open sdc with double click it asks me with what i choose among the applications File Manager and while trying to the terminal give this output "QmetaObject::findSignal:CrightPanle: Conflict with QlistView::selectionChanged()" what the heck does this mean?
[23:37] <jefferai> hey guys
[23:37] <jefferai> how scary is upgrading to jaunty right now?
[23:37] <jefferai> and also, how scary is creating your own package?
[23:37]  * jefferai is inexperienced in the apt world
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> zer0o,  you dont want to be double clicking in /dev/disks/ at ALL i imagine.. those are not the mount points.
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> zer0o,  you access the mountpoint. not the device.
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> zer0o,  if you mounted the thing to /media/THEDRIVE  then access that locatiion with the filemanager
[23:39] <zer0o> ok let me try
[23:45] <kalib> Hi people.. I just intalled kubuntu.. the last one..
[23:45] <kalib> But, my broadcom wireless is not working.. Hav any idea?
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> first read up pn the wireless docs.. and determine your exact chipset.
[23:45] <Dr_Willis>  broadcom makes a lot :)
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> !wireless
[23:47] <kalib> ;]
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> for my woreless card i just had to install the b43-fwcutter package.
[23:57] <kalib> Dr_Willis, it's broadcom?
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> b43Xx yes.
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> broadcom makes a LOT of chipsets
[23:58] <kalib> yeah.. I know.. that's my girlfriend's laptop..
[23:59] <kalib> I'm installing it for her..
[23:59] <kalib> I never had this kind of problem with mine... My laptop's wireless chipset is Atheros
[23:59] <kalib> works fine..