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MTecknologyWhere's metcalfe?03:57
MTecknology:(03:57
MTecknologyWhere's Rinchen too :(04:11
lfaraoneHow can we enable "expirable bugs" for a ubuntu package?04:14
lfaraoneSpesifically https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar/+expirable-bugs gives me an error.04:14
UrsinhaMTecknology, Rinchen morphed into joey04:25
MTecknologyjoey: HI!04:25
MTecknologyI forgot that :P04:25
UrsinhaMTecknology, :P04:26
MTecknologyjoey: really though, come here04:26
MTecknologyUrsinha: are you a ducky?04:31
Ursinhawhat's that?04:31
MTecknologyrubber ducky04:31
spmUrsinha: lp-admin04:32
Ursinhalol04:32
MTecknologyI take it not :P04:32
MTecknologyspm: are you?04:32
Ursinhaspm, rubber ducky?? hahahahahahaha04:32
spmUrsinha: everyone wants the rubberducky04:32
spmMTecknology: yes04:33
MTecknologyspm: can I annoy you for two answers right now?04:33
spmyou can ask, whether I get annoyed is up for grabs :-)04:33
MTecknologydelete project and rename two version numbers04:34
spmfwiw, generally we prefer that stuff that requires us to use admin powers comes via answers. makes it easier to confirm the person requesting is valid in that sense, vs some random dude on IRC.04:34
spmMTecknology: easily.04:35
spmand for those - definately want a request on answers.04:35
spmMTecknology: shoot them in now. I'm doing a heap of others atm, so am in the groove as it were.04:35
MTecknologyhttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/60691 ; https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6065604:35
spmta04:35
spm:-)04:35
MTecknologyspm: or were you already on them?04:36
spmnah. we have a Community contact who... filters/vets questions. they assign to us if they pass muster. helps us focus on server woes etc without being distracted constantly.04:37
MTecknologyoh04:37
MTecknologyspm: ....04:43
spmMTecknology: yup?04:43
MTecknologyummm04:43
spmlet me guess - wrong project? :-)04:43
MTecknologyya04:44
MTecknologyhttps://edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal-dev04:44
spmno prob - they're not deleted - just disabled. one sec.04:44
MTecknologyphew04:44
spmMTecknology: try now - should be back?04:45
spmheh. be careful what you ask for? :-)04:45
MTecknologyoops04:46
MTecknologythanks for fixing it :)04:46
spmno worries04:46
MTecknologydid you do see my mistake and teach me a little lesson?04:48
MTecknologybecause it worked04:48
spmha no. I thought it odd that you wanted that project removed, but you're high inthe karma for it, and I knew it was reversible if you didn't have consensus from the others.04:50
MTecknologyoh - :P04:50
MTecknologyspm: wait until the rest of the blueprint stuff goes through04:51
MTecknologyspm: how hard is it to fix the versions for 5.x?04:51
spmthe release versions?04:51
spmupdate sql, not normally something we'd do.04:51
MTecknologyspm: you could delete them too?04:52
spmeasier than update. yes.04:53
spmMTecknology: would you prefer delete? if so, can I ask that you update the question first?04:53
MTecknologysure - just a sec04:54
MTecknologyspm: updated05:00
spmMTecknology: removed05:01
MTecknologythanks :)05:02
MTecknologyoh - last question05:02
MTecknologyI want a rubber ducky05:02
MTecknology:P05:02
spm:-)05:02
spmvisit your local bath store, buy one. ;-)05:02
MTecknologyok :)05:03
LaserJockis it generally ok to stick with the launchpadlib that comes with Intrepid?05:22
* jml has no clue05:28
MTecknologyWhat does stuart metcalfe come in here?05:55
LaserJockhmm, so I seem unable to authenticate with launchpadlib05:59
MTecknologyspm: still awake?06:27
MTecknologyspm: you should look at what my karma just went up to now in that team :P06:28
MTecknologyWhat am I doing wrong with bzr upgrade? http://pastebin.com/m6a115dbc06:43
mwhudsonpush doesn't change the format06:44
mwhudsontry bzr upgrade lp:whatever06:44
MTecknologymwhudson: this thing is massive... is there any way to make bazaar forget everything after revision X?06:54
MTecknologyI'm doing the upgrade now, It's been going about 10 min now06:55
mwhudsoni can run the upgrade for you somewhere closer to the data centre06:55
MTecknologyI imagine it'll take a but06:55
MTecknologybit*06:55
MTecknologymwhudson: should I just cancel it?06:55
mwhudsoni can't answer that for you06:56
MTecknologyI'll wait for it06:56
MTecknologywhat about forgetting everything prior to revision 10?06:57
MTecknologymwhudson: or am I better dropping things and recreating them>06:58
mwhudsonMTecknology: you keep using words like "should" and "better" that i'm not in a position to evaluate07:00
mwhudsonprobably the safest thing is to just let the upgrade run07:00
MTecknologyI'm letting that happen07:00
MTecknologyWhat I'm asking about is the revisions. The reason I'm even doing any modifications to this is because I realize how massive this thing is. There's a LOT more crap in here than what should be. So what I did is remove them.07:02
MTecknologyBut if someone every does a branch to grab it, they're going to grab a crap load of extras.07:02
MTecknologyWhat I want to do is make bazaar forget about any revision prior to 1007:03
MTecknologymwhudson: is this possible?07:05
mwhudsonnot without essentially recreating the branch07:06
MTecknologythat blowsw07:06
mwhudson#bzr is a better place to discuss this, btw07:06
MTecknologyIs there any way to do that w/o losing everything like bugs and other things attatched to it?07:06
MTecknologyhrm... maybe I will just drop and recreate it :P07:08
MTecknologyhrm 0 I fixed it :)07:09
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kikoMTecknology, ping?10:36
kikoor adiroiban10:36
adiroibanhi10:36
kikoadiroiban, so I saw somebody registered this:10:38
kikohttps://edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal-dev/10:38
kikowhich is just an alias for10:38
kikohttps://edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal/10:38
kikobut I know nobody knows10:38
kikobut we have project aliases10:39
kikoshould I disable -dev and make "loco-drupal-dev" an alias for loco-drupal?10:39
adiroibanfor me is ok. As far as I know I did not registered that project.10:39
kikoI wonder who did10:40
kikooh, MTecknology himself10:40
kikookay, I'll do that10:40
kikoMTecknology, ping me when you are around10:40
adiroibanI think you can do that and just send a notice to loco-drupal-development team10:40
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kikoadiroiban, maybe you can help me do that :)10:43
adiroibando you want me to send the notice? or how can I help ?10:46
adiroiban:)10:46
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henningelfaraone: about your question concerning "expirable bugs"11:34
henningelfaraone: I hadn't heard of this feature before but it does not sound like it is configurable for individual packages.11:35
henningelfaraone: Maybe ask the question again here: https://answers.launchpad.net/malone/+addquestion11:37
mvohi, there is a feature branch against update-manager from petski that adds changelog (well, changes file) fetching for PPAs to u-m. is that something that you feel comfortable with? it might add some load to LP (but only if peple enable PPAs, otherwise it goes to the static chagelogs.ubuntu.com adress)12:18
henningemvo: Hi!12:21
henningemvo: bigjools might be able to asses that.12:22
bigjoolsmvo: sounds good to me12:23
mvohi henninge12:24
bialixhi, is it possible to search/browse the projects based on programming language used for project sources?12:37
bialixsay, I'd like to learn C++ so I'm interesting to find some C++ project at LP to work on12:38
bialixsf.net has this classificator12:38
henningebialix: Not that I know of, although this information can be set for  projects.12:42
henningebialix: but the registry team might know more about this, salgado seems to be up already... ;-)12:43
bialixsalgado: ^^12:43
bialixI saw this info available on project page, but can't see the way to search the project12:44
bialixI'd prefer to work with project that use bzr12:45
henningebialix: that is a worthy goal ;)12:46
salgadobialix, we don't have a way to filter projects based on the language they're written in, but we can use google for that: http://www.google.com.br/search?q="Languages%3A+C%2B%2B"+site%3Alaunchpad.net12:47
salgadobialix, you may want to file a bug against launchpad.net/launchpad for the missing feature, though.  it should be easy to implement12:48
bialixhm, ok will try google12:49
henningebialix: This search works even better: http://www.google.com.br/search?hl=en&q="Languages%3A+C%2B%2B"+site%3Alaunchpad.net12:49
bialixok12:50
* bialix looking12:50
bialixperhaps it was obvious12:50
bialixperhaps I need to adjust the search request to catch mixed-languages projects too...12:51
salgadohenninge, what's the difference between yours and mine?12:51
henningesalgado: I added quotations around "Languages: C++"12:52
henningesalgado: but thinking about it, it is not really "better", just "different" ...12:52
salgadoI had that too, no?12:52
henningeno.12:52
henningesalgado: funny, they get lost when clicking on the link here. Mine, too.12:54
henningesalgado: the "" I mean.12:54
salgadohenninge, weird... they don't get lost here.  maybe something to do with your IRC client?12:54
henningesalgado: guess so. xchat.12:54
salgadosame here12:55
henningesalgado: I am using the build-in url detection12:55
henningebuilt-in12:55
henningesalgado: If I do copy-and-paste, they don't get lost.12:56
salgadohenninge, oh, and you've used the "Open link in browser" menu item?12:57
henningesalgado: yes12:57
salgadoI used Ctrl-click to open it12:58
salgadoit doesn't get lost when you use Ctrl-click. :)12:58
henningebut or feature ... ;-)12:58
henningebug or feature ...? ;-)12:58
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* henninge lunches13:19
mptmrevell-lunch, I just received a message from you about my PPA's size limit, but I don't have a PPA.13:41
bigjoolsmpt: you have ~launchpad13:41
mptah, I see13:43
cody-somervillebigjools, I *didn't* get an e-mail :(13:43
mptI'd forgotten about that :-)13:43
bigjoolscody-somerville: I think the email goes to the team's contact address by default13:44
cody-somervillebigjools, I still feel left out :(13:44
bigjoolscody-somerville: want me to forward you some of my spam? :)13:45
cody-somervilleI have almost as many unread e-mails in my spam box as I do unread in my inbox13:45
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gnomefreakis Matthew Revel's message on PPA size limits and auto responce message or does he send them himself?15:32
henningeThat is auto-generated I think, right mrevell?15:33
gnomefreak:(15:34
gnomefreaki sent reply to it than thought to ask15:34
Odd_Blokegnomefreak: A reply might still get through. :)15:39
gnomefreakok thanks15:39
henningegnomefreak: what adress did the reply go to?15:40
henningeaddress15:40
gnomefreakto matthew.revell@canonical.com15:41
henningegnomefreak: he'll get it then15:41
mrevellon the phone, will reply after15:41
gnomefreakok thanks :)15:41
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henningebye bye, had a good time ... ;-)16:07
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AlexC_g'morning17:24
AlexC_I'm wondering how I can give other people (or a team) access to upload translation files, I see no 'driver' that can be set for translations. How can it be done?17:25
MTecknologykiko: ping17:55
kikoc'est moi17:55
kikohow are you17:55
MTecknologygood, you?17:56
MTecknologyI just read logs17:56
MTecknologyI woulda responded when I got the text message last night, but I was WAY too tired ;)17:56
MTecknologyyou can make an alias for me? :) - I didn't know that was possible17:57
hyperaircan a team be deleted?17:58
hyperairi used to use a ppa for gscrot, but suddenly it seems to have disappeared17:58
hyperairtogether with the team17:58
MTecknologyhyperair: it can be if you ask on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad17:58
hyperairi see17:58
kikoMTecknology, I did already18:00
kikohyperair, a team can be renamed.18:00
kikohyperair, cprov or bigjools will know about this18:01
hyperairhmm i see18:01
hyperairaha18:02
hyperairrenamed to shutter18:02
MTecknologykiko: is it possible to delete a bug?18:02
kikono.18:02
MTecknologyo, thanks18:02
cprovhyperair: that's what I was about to point ;) it's called "shutter" now18:02
hyperaircprov: aha well thanks anyway =)18:03
cprovhyperair: do you know the people involved with it?18:03
hyperaircprov: no i don't18:04
hyperaircprov: regarding gscrot, i'm just a user18:04
hyperaircprov: why?18:04
cprovhyperair: right, no problem, I'm just curious about the reason of the renaming.18:04
hyperairhmm18:05
hyperairit could be similar to the gtorrent->deluge rename =p18:05
cprovhyperair: maybe we should keep aliases around for sometime to avoid this problem18:05
hyperairhm18:05
cprovhyperair: exactly.18:05
hyperairbut i noticed their source package is still called gscrot18:06
hyperairstrangely18:06
* hyperair is annoyed at opera18:08
hyperairwhy won't they make up their mind regarding the whole qt-whatever linking?!18:08
hyperairit's so annoying. one moment you see a qt4 release of opera and you're happy. next moment you're back to qt3.18:09
MTecknologyis opera even open sourced?18:14
kikohyperair, gscrot was a HORRIBLE name18:16
hyperairMTecknology: no it isn't18:16
kikothe fact that it was renamed is to me the last possible hint that a god might exist18:16
hyperairkiko: agreed.18:16
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hyperairkiko: i like the way you put it18:16
kikoyou know, squiggly lines n all18:16
hyperairsquiggly lines?18:17
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MTecknologyjoey: hey, how's it going?18:31
joeyhowdy18:31
joeydsl dropped :-(18:31
MTecknologyjoey: you remember helping loco-drupal with some of ethe porting of the launchpad openid stuff?18:33
joeyMTecknology, yes18:33
MTecknologyI already tried to get a hold of stu via email and I'm just waiting, I just want your opinion to... What would be you opinion of making those projects and alias to ours. Since we have the 5.x and 6.x versions packaged up. We're going to move everything to 7.x pretty soon too18:35
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MTecknologyjoey: any opinion?18:55
joeyMTecknology, well you have to options... wait for Stu (you should send him another email)  or ...well, you could use the project alias support (see the news blog) but I don't think that's going to solve your problem.18:56
joeythe Answers question is still the way to go18:57
MTecknologyjoey: I was just wondering what your opinion was18:57
MTecknologyI'll wait a day or two for him to reply, I haven't been waiting long at all18:58
joeyMTecknology, I don't really have an opinion besides "talk to stu".18:59
joeyMTecknology, he always does the right thing so... :-)18:59
MTecknologylol, ok18:59
MTecknologythanks18:59
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MTecknologybac: pi19:13
MTecknologyng19:13
bacMTecknology: on the phone right now.  be with you in a bit19:14
MTecknologyok19:14
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MTecknologybac: still on the phone?20:00
MTecknologyoh, shuttleworth left? :(20:00
bacMTecknology hi20:06
MTecknologybac: how's it going?20:06
bacgood. and you?20:06
MTecknologypretty good20:06
MTecknologybac: could you review a license for me? I tried to find the one that best suites something that I have about 0 care what someone else does with it20:07
bacMTecknology: sure.  have an URL?20:08
MTecknologywait... I don't need you to review it with CPL, do I?20:08
bacnot if it is one of the licenses with a checkbox.  only if you select 'Other/Open Source' does it need review.20:08
MTecknologyok, ok20:08
MTecknologywell - then go away20:09
MTecknology:P - sorry to bug you for nothing20:09
MTecknologyCPL is pretty much entirely open, right?20:09
bialixhi guys, anybody here can help with openid provided by LP?20:13
bialixI'm trying to use my LP openid to login at stackoverflow.com20:14
bialixunfortunately I've got the error20:14
bialixUnable to log in with your OpenID provider:20:15
bialixOpenID parameter 'session_type' was missing from the query.20:15
bialixis it possible to do something with that?20:15
matsubarabialix, maybe bug 318972?20:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 318972 in python-openid "OpenID problem with stackoverflow.com" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31897220:15
* bialix reading bug20:16
bialixbad20:19
bialixI want to use LP openid as primary id20:19
bialixthanks for the link to bug20:19
* bialix going away sad20:20
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maxbWhat's with the pulsing green AJAX loady stuff? :-)20:31
beunomaxb, PPAs?20:32
beunoor subscribers?20:32
maxbPPAs20:33
beunomaxb, will slide soon instead of pulsate green20:34
beunobut the reason you're seeing that20:34
beunois because it's not loaded via ajax, so the page loads faster20:35
LaserJockleonardr: around?20:36
leonardrlaserjock, yes20:36
LaserJockleonardr: great, rockstar suggested I talk to you about an launchpadlib issue I'm having20:37
leonardrsure20:37
LaserJockleonardr: I can't authenticate20:37
LaserJockI get launchpadlib.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized after I hit "Enter"20:37
LaserJockthat's  at the launchpad = Launchpad.get_token_and_login('just testing', STAGING_SERVICE_ROOT, cachedir) line20:38
leonardrdo you see registered tokens at https://launchpad.net/~[username]/+oauth-tokens ?20:38
leonardror rather, https://staging.launchpad.net/~[username]/+oauth-tokens ?20:38
LaserJockyep20:38
LaserJockI have 2 because I tried once with 'just testing' and then another time with a different app name20:39
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LaserJockI tried with both the launchpadlib version in Intrepid and also from bzr20:40
LaserJockso perhaps LP just hates me20:40
LaserJock:-)20:41
leonardrthis has happened a couple of times before, but i don't remember the problem20:41
LaserJockleonardr: is there any debugging I can do?20:43
LaserJockleonardr: or should I just forget about it and do some screen-scraping? :-)20:44
leonardrno, don't forget about it20:45
leonardrhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpadlib/+bug/31811220:45
ubottuUbuntu bug 318112 in launchpadlib "Scripts return 401 error randomly (dup-of: 319710)" [Undecided,New]20:45
ubottuUbuntu bug 319710 in launchpad-foundations "Incorrect nonce processing in API" [High,In progress]20:45
leonardrthat gives some debug code to run20:45
LaserJockleonardr: do you suspect that that is my issue? it seems like for them it's random failures20:48
LaserJockor are you just pointing me to the debug code20:48
leonardrjust pointing you to the debug code20:49
leonardrin hopes that it will jog my memory as to what this problem is20:49
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LaserJockleonardr: did you get my PM?21:19
MTecknologycrap21:54
MTecknologyany admins around?21:54
MTecknologyI need a release and milestone removed21:55
MTecknologyhttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6080821:57
spmMTecknology: sure, on it22:00
MTecknologyspm: sorry about doing that again22:00
spmMTecknology: just the release, yes?22:00
MTecknologyya22:01
spmMTecknology: is gone22:09
MTecknologythanks22:10
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LaserJockleonardr: it works on edge!22:19
LaserJockleonardr: so it appears staging doesn't like me22:19
LaserJockungrateful little copycat :-)22:20
leonardrlaserjock, would you try getting credentials on staging, saving them to a file, then starting a new session that loads credentials from the file?22:23
LaserJockleonardr: ok22:25
LaserJockwell, hang on22:25
LaserJockhow can I save the credentials if it fails to authenticate?22:25
LaserJockleonardr: ^^?22:27
leonardrlaserjock, let me see if it's possible22:28
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mtaylorhey guys - from where do you generate the list of all available languages for translations? (http://translations.edge.launchpad.net/~mordred/+editlanguages)23:05
* mtaylor is trying to find a good canonical source for that...23:05
pooliemtaylor: you want a list of many human languages?23:20
mtaylorpoolie: well... I'm trying to get a list of languages (and locale code) that one _might_ have installed on a system...23:23
mtaylorpoolie: then then the next step is also trying to figure out which ones are _actually_ installed23:23
mtaylorpoolie: I figured you guys have a nice big list of translation targets - so maybe you were reading a list somewhere in the system that I just haven't found yet23:24
pooliemtaylor: most of the developers are in europe so may be asleep/offline23:24
pooliefor translations23:24
mtaylorstupid sleep23:24
poolie:)23:24
poolieif you send may we can probably pull out the file23:24
poolieif it's not from a public source already23:24
mtaylorpoolie: well... I'm more interested in if it's from a public source and where that might be23:25
mtaylorpoolie: I'd appreciate it if it's just your list, but I'm trying to figure out some things about locale support without generating my own list23:25
mtaylori.e. ... I want it to magically grow without thought from me. :)23:26
mtaylorpoolie: I'll ping again once europe is awake... thanks!23:27
poolie> Turkish, Ottoman (1500-1928)                           (ota)23:28
pooliesrsly? :)23:28
mtaylorlike, /usr/share/locale/all_languages, for instance, includes many languages, and has things like en_US and en_GB in the list, but doesn't have pt_PT and pt_BR, having instead only pt... so it's not really _all_ lanauges...23:29
mtaylorwow23:29
mtayloris that an iso lanauge?23:29
poolieapparently23:29
mtaylorwow23:29
pooliei'm trying to see if the ilst is in our source tree23:29
mtaylormy favorite is that setlocale() takes a locale string which "may be different from system to system"23:30
mtaylorthat's just lovely23:30
pooliehttp://svn.joyent.com/opensource/connector/source/trunk/test/feedvalidator/feedvalidator/iso639codes.py23:30
mtaylorsweet23:31
mtaylorand it's got Turkish, Ottoman23:31
poolieyou can't go back to Constantinople :)23:31
mtaylorsadly, you are right23:32
poolieheh23:33
pooliealso23:33
poolie./database/schema/archive/HideObscureLanguages.sql:UPDATE language SET visible=false WHERE code='ab';-- Abkhazian23:33
mtaylorabkhazian is real? I thought Neal Stephenson just made that one up23:33

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