[02:23] hello [02:24] hullo [02:25] holla [02:27] just went from intrepid to jaunty, trying to figure out why networkmanager isn't bringing up (or managing) any interfaces [02:28] skyjumper: yeah, it didnt for me either [02:28] skyjumper: thought my ethernet works, its not listedi networkmanager like it used to [02:28] did you have to bring it up manually? [02:28] Have you tried creating a new user profile and seeing if NM then shows the interfaces? [02:29] it's a systemwide interface [02:30] skyjumper: nope, it worked on boot, i just have it /etc/network/interfaces [03:37] ./clear [03:57] Hello; I was wondering if anyone could give me any information pertaining to enabling GLX or desktop window transparency with the ati driver. [04:00] Kuaera, afaik ati's proprietary driver isn't working with the new xorg (it might have just been released, in which case it may still be a day or two until it's packaged up [04:01] cwillu: I see...what of fglrx? As far as I've tested in the past, X won't even start with it [04:01] Kuaera, that _is_ fglrx [04:02] cwillu: So what's the difference between the 'ati'/'radeon' driver and 'fglrx'? [04:02] ati/radeon is the open source driver, although it doesn't have acceleration support for newer cards [04:02] radeonhd is the open driver that will eventually support those cards, but I don't think it's usable for acceleration yet [04:03] Ah...this is a fairly archaic card in a laptop, and has had support in the past, so I think it may just be an Xorg compatibility problem [04:09] Kuaera: Archaic ati cards should Just Work™ [04:10] I heard that [04:10] RAOF: 9600 Mobility qualify as "archaic" enough? [04:10] If yours isn't, then a pastebin of your Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf is the minimum amount of info to ride the debug train. [04:10] Kuaera: Definitely. [04:11] RAOF: Unfortunately, I haven't the time right now to fully debug, but I'll look into that a bit later - it may very well just be a configuration issue. [04:12] Probably is; first port of call would be moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way; it's likely to be unnecessary. === maco_ is now known as maco [05:31] RAOF_: Ping? [05:32] Pong? [05:32] pang!! [05:32] \o/ Alright. I renamed my xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup and restarted X [05:32] No real changes, but I do have a pastebin'd Xorg.0.log for you [05:33] http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m74f24e5a [05:35] What bothers me are lines 146-150, to an extent [glxgears segfaults, no OpenGL acceleration], and the fact that, even though the "Composite" extension is listed, I can't seem to get desktop window transparency [related to OpenGL support?] [05:37] Also, line 33 - the BIOS memory location is unknown [05:37] RAOF_: I don't mean to inundate you with all this, though >_< [05:38] * RAOF_ is just browsing the log [05:38] Do you need any more information? [05:40] Hm... there doesn't seem much to go on. [05:41] xdpyinfo? [05:42] So, window transparency requires a composite manager running; compiz is one, which will be denied to you by the lack of direct rendering I suspect. [05:43] Metacity is another; you just need to fiddle around in gconf-editor (/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager) [05:44] I'm mostly concerned with KDE transparency, actually. The panels are not translucent, and translucent shadows or glows in styles are just rendered as black [05:44] I don't know why your virtual size is set to 2048x1200; do you have two monitors plugged in? [05:44] I do not. [05:44] There is an optional TV-out and secondary monitor out for this laptop, but I do not use them. [05:45] Oh, whoops. I missed the obvious. [05:45] dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so: undefined symbol: miInitVisualsProc [05:45] I suspect you've had fglrx installed at some point? [05:45] Lines 146-150, as I pointed out? [05:45] Yes. [05:46] Has it been uninstalled? [05:46] Recently, it's been installed and uninstalled [once I found it unworking] [05:46] Does it modify libglx.so? [05:47] Yes. [05:47] It replaces the 3d stack. [05:47] I see. So that's no good. [05:47] It's removed now? [05:48] I just checked now, and I had missed one of the related packages, so [05:48] I guess that's my problem. [05:48] Probably :) [05:48] Thank you for your help, RAOF_. I've asked the question before and brought attention to those specific lines, but I got canned responses :( [05:49] Let me restart X and see how everything operates, and thanks again. :) [05:54] All's well, it seems. [05:54] Score. [05:58] I still don't have translucency in plasma, but, meh. At least OpenGL works. [05:58] You'd need to hit the desktop-effects control panel to turn that on. [05:59] Actually, I need to be running KWin instead of Openbox... Sad day. [06:01] You could install xcompmgr. [06:01] That's a stand-alone composite manager. [06:04] Cool. [06:07] RAOF_: Thanks a ton... I'm glad I've been able to maintain this balance between desktop features and weight [07:10] HI any one out there For Ubuntu-9.04 Jaunty support [07:10] channel [07:10] ? [07:11] Hi Anyone out here to help my cause ? [07:12] Hi all [07:12] I had problem with my Newely Upgraded Ubuntu-9.04 Jaunty package release [07:13] some conflicts woth the /etc/route [07:16] Any one to solve my issue [07:16] ? [07:22] Hew,,, are you there [07:22] ? [07:23] mak_: Yes, what's up? [07:23] ask once and wait [07:23] Hew: < mak_> some conflicts woth the /etc/route [07:23] mak_: I hope you're not just pinging everyone that enters the channel. [07:23] ,,,I had problem with running openvpn script ,,,and I Got warning message like [07:24] WARNING: potential route subnet conflict between local LAN [192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0] and remote VPN [192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0] [07:24] And i am loosing my Internet connection,,, [07:24] mak_: Is this even a Jaunty specific issue? Perhaps you would be better off asking in #ubuntu [07:25] i thought it's an jaunty specific issue,,,, [07:25] mak_: Ok then. [07:25] when will be the full Beta release of jaunty will take place [07:25] ? [07:26] ,,,i Thought i could have remained in Ubuntu-8.10,,,, it's the Best [07:27] mak_: If you want stability you should use Intrepid. Jaunty is for testing. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule [07:28] mak_: There is no need to address me specifically, just ask questions to the channel. [07:28] okay okay [10:19] good morning everyone [10:19] what's new? [10:20] other then the 180MiBs of updates [10:44] Hmm all my SSH keys require me to type in my key's passphrase today =\ odd [10:45] Oli``: is seahose-agent or gpg-agent running? [10:46] i have to enter mine with gpg-agent but not seahorse-agent [10:46] seahorse-agent is running [10:46] oh [11:00] surely, you jest, jaunty [11:00] I'm wondering: is there a bug about Jaunty now trying to insist on using the terminally broken MTP for connecting audio devices? [11:01] my device has no override on it, and I really don't want to have to resort to managing it from some audio app === arve__ is now known as virtuelv [11:08] rsync is a much better, and more flexible tool than some proprietary MS stuff [11:09] and if I try to remove mtp-tools, rhythmbox goes [11:36] Filed as: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/328465 [11:36] Ubuntu bug 328465 in ubuntu "MTP support prevents mass-storage capable media players from mounting" [Undecided,New] === quassel198 is now known as ndazza [12:32] hi, i seem to remember there was some kind of installation report users could fill in for pre-release versions but i can't seem to find it... does anyone know where it is? [12:36] hey [12:38] ndazza: System > Administration > System Testing ? [12:38] IntuitiveNipple: on kubuntu? [12:38] :) [12:39] ha... you want #kubuntu+1 [12:39] oh, i thought that's what i joined :p [12:39] sorry [12:39] There was/is a wiki page for Hardware testing I seem to recall [12:40] ah thanks, i'll search the wiki too [12:42] heheh #kubuntu+1 redirects here [12:48] does anyone know how to eject a disk from a slot loading drive? [12:49] oh eject [13:09] amarok broken in jaunty for anyone else? [13:10] it streamed shoutcast for about 30 seconds, segfaulted, and won't open at all [13:11] i'm on a live CD... i'll install and test [13:26] Hey, has anybody been able to compile ndiswrapper against kernel 2.6.29-rc4? [13:28] bardyr: is that the current kernel in jaunty [13:28] No. [13:29] bardyr: are you trying to use flash on amd64? [13:29] there's a beta 64bit plugin available now [13:32] re https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/328465 [13:32] Ubuntu bug 328465 in ubuntu "MTP support prevents mass-storage capable media players from mounting" [Undecided,New] [13:33] is there a proper workaround? [14:35] my screenshot stop working [14:35] having issues with updates [14:35] when i press screenshot nothing happen [14:35] why? [14:35] and aptitude install -f is nto fixing it [14:36] it says there are 13 new pkgs [14:36] btu they wont install [14:37] unixdawg: maybe they haven't been built yet [14:37] adept keeps crashing now [14:37] never force unless you know what you are doing [14:37] miik: suffering from the same [14:37] the key seems to use sysrek instead [14:41] well adept is now borked [14:41] this pisses me off [14:42] anyone report screenshot bug? [14:44] I got up it said there where 99 updates [14:44] they all installed then I rebooted it said there where 13 more new updates but they wont install [14:45] and adept has stopped working it locks up at reading package list 99% [14:45] and stops responding [14:46] :( [14:46] try apt-get [14:47] I have it says 5 updates are being held back [14:47] but does not say why [14:47] i think 24 hours, they wont be hold [14:48] The following packages have been kept back: [14:48] audacity gnome-keyring plasmoid-quickaccess python-gnome2-desktop system-config-printer-kde [14:48] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded [14:48] maybe some depence that it needs are not updated [14:48] f-spot is kept back for me [14:48] usually solves withi n24 hours [14:49] the only other issue is random lockups [14:50] in X [14:50] but this is beta so I guess its to be expecter [14:50] its not even beta yet, its alpha [14:50] i have no random lockups [14:51] it might be a kde issue [14:51] but 3 times yesterday and twice this am [14:51] just locks up [14:51] miik: I think I have. look on LP [14:51] used kde 3 days ago, no lockups [14:51] I have tested the mem and hardware they all come back clean [14:52] BUGabundo, where? [14:52] bug id? [14:54] wel now off to install a server [14:54] check back ltr [14:58] miik: look for it! I don't know either [14:59] I have 300+ bugs opened [14:59] ho [14:59] many [14:59] oh [14:59] don't you ? [15:00] no [15:00] from once in a while I "try" to check a few of them to see if they have been fixed [15:00] but it takes A LOT of time [15:00] oh [15:00] and usually I just get with even more bugs [15:00] well you can search and sort them [15:00] like ORDER BY status FIXED [15:00] email wioll tell you ;) [15:00] maybe with advanced search [15:01] s/wioll/will [15:01] those don't coung [15:01] *count [15:03] damn ill be back :( === der0b\ is now known as der0b === kyofel is now known as yofel [15:29] why might "Style" might be missing in KDE's system settings? [15:30] using jaunty with minimal kde [15:34] skyjumper: not as part of the minimal install ? [15:35] not on my system [15:36] miik: ping [15:36] miik: do you have some free time? [15:37] could I ask you a favor? [15:39] where is koffice2 [15:39] I need/want it [15:44] unixdawg: was it ported to kde4 ? [15:44] not sure [15:44] looking [17:18] hello, I have a T61 which touchpad isn't working on clean jaunty install, it produces events to /dev/input/mouse2, but no movement on screen === Sergeant_Pony__ is now known as Sergeant_Pony === maco_ is now known as maco === keffie_jayx is now known as effie_jayx [19:23] my sound is completely screwed with the last updates :( [19:24] killall pulseaudio [19:26] mahfiaz1: doesn't help === mahfiaz1 is now known as mahfiaz [19:27] with pulse or alsa i just hear a horrible clicking sound when trying to play any sound [19:27] hi there, I have a problem to keep my resolution settings. I can set the correct resolution in the nvidia x server settings dialog (through kdesudo nvidia-settings) but when I try to save this configuration to the xorg.conf it fails. [19:28] Tecumseh, run it using "sudo nvidia-config" [19:28] ali1234, search, if there is alsa bug present about your card [19:29] running gui apps with sudo is a bad idea, it screws up your X permissions [19:29] nvidia-config is not installed here [19:30] Tecumseh: try saving the xorg.conf to an alternate file in home directory and copying it manually after backing up the orignal [19:30] but it probably wont work - nvidia-settings seems to generate none working configs [19:30] ali1234, I don't think there is a better way [19:30] it was nvidia-settings [19:31] mahfiaz: better way? use gksudo or kdesudo [19:31] !gksudo [19:31] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [19:31] ali1234, thanks, I wasn't aware of that [19:32] ali1234: luckily I was [19:32] i have 1920x1200 and a nvidia 7600 card [19:32] I have been trying to get my display settings correct since I installed jaunty yesterday. Took me 4 hours yesterday without progress [19:33] same problems as I had with intrepid and hardy, seems there still is no good way to configure the display correctly :( [19:34] Tecumseh: it used to work but the new xorg way is to run without much of a conf at all, and autodetect everything [19:34] unfortunately it seems nvidia-settings did not keep up [19:34] of course it depends what you are trying to do [19:34] the gnome built-in display settings is getting quite good now too [19:35] never tried kde [19:35] also kde is not keeping up with it either. The nvidia-settings dialog detects a much larger resolution range that it supports then the system-settings do [19:35] ah yes [19:36] well what i found was a good approach was to generate a config using nvidia-settings and then use that and the default one to write my own from scratch, with whatever custom modelines i needed [19:36] tried that already, but on boot it gets replaced by a blank file [19:36] that's odd... shouldn't happen should it? [19:37] only thing that remained was the zapmode with the hotkey to restart X with ctrl alt backspace [19:37] hmm... updates perhaps? [19:37] that's annoying if they are gonna nuke xorg.conf every time [19:37] yep, very much [19:38] i'm generating PAL RGB signal on the VGA port right into my TV's SCART socket [19:38] i get a STB quality picture instead of blurry composite - but it NEEDS a custom config [20:16] hi [20:16] where's the volume applet in jaunty? [20:16] Turl: notification area [20:16] it starts when pulseaudio start [20:16] I want to control the volume from the notification area, but no applet :/ [20:17] there's no gnome-volume-control-applet either (it should be there as I have gnome-applets installed) [20:18] mine it's there [20:18] odd [20:19] any way to 'rebuild' the config on the sessions panel? I want to reset it, because I think I messed it up [20:21] Turl: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel [20:22] won't that reset my gnome panel? [20:22] mmm yes sorry if i misunderstound [20:22] zniavre: I want to reset the config you see on system->preferences->sessions [20:23] this i do not knw sorry [20:28] mv ~/.config/autostart backup [20:28] that was it :p [20:29] well, cya all! [20:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/201202 [20:32] Ubuntu bug 201202 in network-manager "WiFi roaming causes NetworkManager to lose routing" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:34] ah i see what happened. the sound was muted, so i was only hearing the crackling, instead of the crackling and the audio [20:38] hi. how do i know what jaunty version i am using? (to report bugs) lsb_release seems not to work by default on xubuntu [20:39] apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you run the latest [20:39] Also will ext4 be supported by default in jaunty final? :) [20:40] mahfiaz, jes, but i want to report bug. Do I do that under just jaunty or some of alpha versions? [20:40] I would like to know command that , like displays current version [20:41] the important thing is the version of the package you a reporting a bug on [20:41] oh, ok. [20:41] I have another question, wider one.. [20:42] how you manage co use ubuntu for everyday tasks with stable release [20:42] and to test it at the same time newer, development version? [20:43] I do all tasks on devel version [20:43] i have several computers [20:43] I mostly use Hardy as desktop but I installed jaunty and updated, just for testing. I do that just few weeks/months before release etc [20:43] I just have to make sure I don't upgrade when some critical work is to be done [20:43] mahfiaz, but testing version sometomes breaks etc [20:44] mahfiaz, scary a bit for me [20:44] ali1234, ah yes, i do dual boot on another partition [20:45] mahfiaz, do you think, newer packages could be fine tested if ported to stable version? [20:45] I was making packages for my stable version for some time now. [20:45] yes they could [20:46] mahfiaz, but will that ,like, bug report, be valid to testing package version since it is running on stable release? [20:46] it is not very common when some package needs upgraded libraries, and usually you cannot compile it then without upgraded libs [20:47] I cannot say it is for *ALL* reports, but for most of them yes [20:47] providing libraries are updated, but if program works with older libraries, older libraries are used [20:47] Yes, i most of the time needed to update libraries [20:48] it depens on what program you are debugging :) [20:48] Problem is that I am just still thinking in Win*Doze way [20:48] I just Love LTS. :) [20:49] that's why pre-LTS versions need thorough testing and many bleeding-edge users :) [20:49] I have been doing everythink I can to stay on that and jus add newer packages etc [20:50] if you need stability, but newer programs then this is the way to go [20:50] mahfiaz, soo, stable releases could be thinked of, like, "testing" releases for next LTS, right? :) [20:50] like 6.10, 7.04, 7.10 were for 8.04LTS [20:51] sure [20:51] :) [20:52] mahfiaz, would you think it would be good think to port most of new packages to -backports of LTS, or that will not be good for development then? [20:53] I would mostly be VERY happy that way as LTS user on my notebook and on installs where I need newer packages but several year worth of install [20:54] So I am thinking will you advise porting many and newest packages to -backports [20:54] salve a tutti [20:54] It would speed up testing, wouldn`t it? === andrea is now known as Guest18209 [20:55] hi Guest18209 :) [20:55] I think it is matter of somebody willing to do this, I personally don't care about LTS versions, as all versions have to be stable enough, but I am not the right person to answer [20:55] excuse me, there is someone who speak italian? [20:55] and most of developers whom I know are on unstable anyway [20:56] ok I try in english [20:56] i've got an alice voip gate 2 plus wi fi [20:56] and ubuntu 8.04 [20:56] i see. I am just thinking.. will porting packages to -backports will benefit development of newer packages etc [20:57] Guest18209, this is development channel. Use #ubuntu for user support for stable versions :) [20:58] !it [20:58] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [20:58] I'v tried to connect the modem with ethernet, but i don't understand the settings [20:58] someone can help me? [20:58] nikolam, I think this may be case only for some special applications like inkscape or gimp [20:59] Guest18209, consult your Loco Italian community #ubuntu-it , #ubuntu [20:59] Guest18209, this channel is for Ubuntu 9.04, not Ubuntu 8.04. Please try #ubuntu [20:59] mahfiaz, yes, right, mostly those applications that LTS or stable users would like and will need to upgrade to [21:00] The same way like, getdeb.net is working to say so. Just those packages that people are interested in. [21:01] mahfiaz, Where Should I post about this idea to get developer`s opinions about this? [21:02] I think that way we could have 1) Very Happy stable/lts release folks 2) wide testing of newer packages [21:03] If someones package from backports does not work right, he can always use stable one. [21:04] That way ordinary stable release users could be benefited from IF they are willing to use unsupported -backports [21:05] nikolam: you can use PPAs to release your backports if you want: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA [21:08] New fix in gnome-session: [21:08] - Fix possible crash when pressing Fn-F7 [21:08] Fn-F7? Fn-F7 on what? [21:09] "Fn-F7" is not very specific. [21:09] Fn-F7 = disable touchpad here [21:09] It's nothing at all for my laptop. [21:09] Exactly why they need to say "on touchpad-disable" or "on video-switch" or whatever the heck it is. [21:09] Fn-f7 can mean completely different things on different laptops. [21:10] looks like LCD brightness change [21:15] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=568713 [21:15] Gnome bug 568713 in plugins "g-s-d xrandr plugin crashes in handle_fn_f7 because of wrong error handling" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [21:15] gnome actually has a function called "handle_fn_f7" [21:15] ali1234, just to make shure, after that, those packages in ppa will not bu available automatically inside stable_release-backports, or they will? [21:16] nikolam: they won't afaik [21:17] interesting [21:17] fn+f7 for me is "Turn off the backlight" [21:17] my brightness are f5 and f6 [21:18] yep always different... god knows why they named a function that way. presumably it has the potential to crash regardless of what the actual function of the key is [21:20] ali1234, but after making them and putting in ppa, someone could be contacted to put some of them in -backports? [21:20] no idea [21:26] just got updates; compiz is working [21:29] i like fade effect on destop background change [21:30] but that was happening even before visual effects were enabled anyway [21:33] the only thing i have seen crashing was npviewer in the last 3 days [21:34] once or twice [21:34] this is coming out to be very stable [21:34] hmm [21:39] there is a minor sound issue on startup; some crackling noice while on the splash screen and during the welcome sound.. other wise no problems [21:40] all this on a mt3422 laptop [21:40] 64bit system version [21:42] then again, i only use this particular puter for websurfing and other minor stuff === DBO is now known as jasmith === jasmith is now known as jassmith === jassmith is now known as DBO [22:17] sarebbe ubuntu+1??? [22:41] huh? [22:43] firefox is not keeping bookmarks [22:44] anyone know a fix for terrible opengl performance (60 FPS in glxgears) in jaunty with "Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)" ... glxinfo: "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM GEM 20090114 x86/MMX/SSE2" (using DRI: yes) [22:45] Bookmarks Toolbar anyway. strange that some stayed from before [22:45] tried some xorg.conf changes: Option "AccelMethod" "xaa" (didn't startup), and now: Option "AccelMethod" "exa", Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" (starts but still slow) [22:45] turning off compiz [22:47] ian1: turn off compiz [22:47] that solved for me a couple problems, but I just got another update [22:47] ian1: Is that _generally_ bad opengl performance, or just poor glxgears numbers? [22:48] thompa: compiz is off [22:48] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] (rev a1) [22:48] fast enough gears here [22:49] enable it then and then back off [22:49] is compiz fusion working for you guys? [22:49] mine has trouble changing from metacity to compiz [22:49] ian1: IE: do you have bad performance in an actual OpenGL app? Because glxgears isn't a reliable indication of opengl performance. [22:49] working on intel here great in a vaio with 3G [22:50] yesterday it was not, the nvidia card i got works great now though [22:50] RAOF: seems like generally bad performance. glxgears used to give much higher performance in 8.04 (I don't remember exactly, but at least in the hundreds) [22:50] ian1: Intel is in a bit of flux; you might have better luck with AccelMethod "uxa". [22:51] ian1: try eliminating some things i guess. what command did you run [22:51] try something else [22:51] thompa: somethings? [22:51] ian1: when was your last update. I would just wait [22:52] ian1: something to check frame rate if thats what you want [22:53] thompa: I just updated 8.04 -> 8.10 then to jaunty hoping to fix these video problems [22:53] ian1: http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/releases/repo/pts.debian/files/phoronix-test-suite_1.6.0_all.deb [22:54] ian1: what intel processor is it? [22:54] Ba baw. Upgrading to Jaunty isn't a good way to fix anything :) [22:54] 810? [22:55] It's a 965. [22:55] I thought that maybe the new kernel with GEM would help [22:56] No. What that'll do is make performance (at least for some people) horrible. [22:56] Turning on UXA might un-horrible the performance, though. [22:56] I'll try it [22:56] ian1: whats the brand laptop? [22:56] just Option "AccelMethod" "uxa" in the device section? [22:57] lenovo T61 [22:57] ian1: Yup. As mentioned above ;) [22:57] ian1: Note that UXA might break suspend/resume, or cause rendering artefacts, or just not work. [22:57] ian1: how does compiz work? [23:01] compiz runs at 60 fps according to Compiz Benchmark [23:02] That's likely to be vsync. [23:02] could that be limiting glxgears also (outside of compiz) ? [23:03] Yes. [23:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting <= might be useful for you. [23:03] oh I'm not in uxa yet btw [23:03] Yeah, I know. You haven't disconnected yet :) [23:03] ian1: my NVidia 8400 runs at 350 FPS on single monitor [23:06] And is vastly more powerful. And won't be syncing to the monitor's vblank, either. [23:09] RAOF: hm accidently hit Fn-F12 instead of Ctrl-F12 (to disable compiz FPS monitor) and it seems that hibernate now works... ;) [23:09] yeah, finally the X bug has been fixed [23:09] ian1: But not with UXA (possibly) :) [23:09] and now Resume WORKS [23:09] hah [23:10] hi. does anyone know how many previous kernels are left in /boot after kernel upgrades? [23:10] With the binary nvidia driver, resume has worked for me for a long time. [23:10] RAOF: is UXA newer than XAA and EXA? [23:11] Yes. [23:11] since after every update older kernels are left behind in /boot [23:11] nikolam: ALL [23:11] It's the new gpu-memory-manager based acceleration arch for Intel. [23:11] RAOF: it was broken until last Monday [23:11] bug on xorg-xserver-nv [23:12] What [23:12] ? [23:12] BUGabundo, why is that. My /boot is like 100 or 200Megs. It used to get full and i need to remove them manually to free disk space for /boot. That can brake updates.. hmm [23:12] nv resumes from suspend? [23:12] RAOF: ok restarting with uxa brb [23:13] nikolam: there is an option some where (apt ??) that lets you choose how many to keep [23:14] BUGabundo, maybe we should make it choose default number of previous kernels, not tu fill all /boot space to people [23:14] Think it would be wise etc? [23:14] nikolam: file a (wish)bug on LP [23:15] and let us know it, so we can subs to it [23:15] I Have one lts install where i fixed it by installing linux-image that depends always on newest kernel [23:15] Thanks BUGabundo [23:15] np [23:16] nikolam: by the way UM won't upgrade if it detects low disk [23:16] if it fails to check the /boot partition space it's a bug [23:16] file that too [23:16] BUGabundo, maybe now it won`t in some previous stable releases it update and then fails etc. [23:16] RAOF: UXA gives 550+ FPS in glxgears [23:17] And is generally snappier? [23:17] yes [23:17] its new to UM [23:17] maybe i should just wait for /boot to get full and report what happens then [23:17] * RAOF notes that glxgears _remains_ not a benchmark :) [23:18] * BUGabundo RAOF coments are making me wanna test my system again [23:18] $ glxgears [23:18] 1714 frames in 5.0 seconds = 342.768 FPS [23:18] 709 frames in 5.0 seconds = 141.693 FPS [23:18] 711 frames in 5.0 seconds = 142.141 FPS [23:18] on FULL SCREEN [23:20] RAOF: feels snappier. and in compiz switching desktops is now smooth [23:21] I'll try a suspend/resume [23:22] * ian2 hugs RAOF and ubuntu and UXA and probably carl worth [23:26] on full screen i get 116fps [23:27] normal size glxgears is 420 [23:27] BUGabundo: what is "UM"? [23:27] ROFL [23:27] you should know girl [23:27] Update Manager [23:27] oh [23:28] yeah we have WAY too many abreviations [23:28] BUGabundo: i thought you were saying UXA was new to UM...couldnt figure out what video card driver that was [23:28] eheh [23:28] nop [23:28] other thread [23:34] RAOF: thanks