[00:20] <tunk> cjwatson: thanks for your help earlier - i installed usb-creator and made an image and now i'm very happy to have ubuntu on my netbook.
[00:25] <lfaraone> Is the workflow for working on usb-creator seriously "Edit, debuild, install, test"?
[00:28] <cjwatson> tunk: yay
[00:28] <lfaraone> (is there any way to use it w/o doing so?)
[00:28] <tunk> cjwatson: your interest in such a dull question was much appreciated mate :)
[00:29] <cjwatson> lfaraone: you'll have to wait until evand's around for an authoritative answer
[08:26] <hilde444> bonjour
[09:06] <evand> lfaraone: It is indeed.  Patches welcome if that sufficiently bothers you.
[09:36] <CIA-3> hw-detect: cjwatson * r106 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog disk-detect.sh):
[09:36] <CIA-3> hw-detect: Check dmraid's exit code as well as parsing its output, the latter for
[09:36] <CIA-3> hw-detect: backward compatibility with dmraid << 1.0.0.rc15-1~exp4 only
[09:36] <CIA-3> hw-detect: (LP: #325947).
[09:38] <CIA-3> base-installer: cjwatson * r352 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog library.sh):
[09:38] <CIA-3> base-installer: Check dmraid's exit code as well as parsing its output, the latter for
[09:38] <CIA-3> base-installer: backward compatibility with dmraid << 1.0.0.rc15-1~exp4 only
[09:38] <CIA-3> base-installer: (LP: #325947).
[09:41] <CIA-3> grub-installer: cjwatson * r768 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer):
[09:41] <CIA-3> grub-installer: Check dmraid's exit code as well as parsing its output, the latter for
[09:41] <CIA-3> grub-installer: backward compatibility with dmraid << 1.0.0.rc15-1~exp4 only
[09:41] <CIA-3> grub-installer: (LP: #325947).
[09:42] <CIA-3> os-prober: cjwatson * r228 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog os-prober):
[09:42] <CIA-3> os-prober: Check dmraid's exit code as well as parsing its output, the latter for
[09:42] <CIA-3> os-prober: backward compatibility with dmraid << 1.0.0.rc15-1~exp4 only
[09:42] <CIA-3> os-prober: (LP: #325947).
[09:51] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r129 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog init.d/parted lib/base.sh):
[09:51] <CIA-3> partman-base: Check dmraid's exit code as well as parsing its output, the latter for
[09:51] <CIA-3> partman-base: backward compatibility with dmraid << 1.0.0.rc15-1~exp4 only
[09:51] <CIA-3> partman-base: (LP: #325947).
[10:19] <cjwatson> evand: does http://paste.ubuntu.com/117202/ look halfway plausible to you? this is for bug 328437 (see #ubuntu-devel)
[10:20] <cjwatson> I'm going to test it but another pair of eyes wouldn't hurt
[10:29]  * evand looks
[10:41] <evand> cjwatson: looks ok
[11:03] <CIA-3> hw-detect: cjwatson * r107 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.71ubuntu4
[11:55] <davmor2> evand: Yay maps in.  And is horrifically garish but works.  You might want to think re-wording the first line to  Select your time zone and then a city from the drop down list.
[11:56] <evand> You can do both by clicking on the map, but indeed, the text needs a bit of love.
[11:56] <evand> The colors will also be fixed in the next iteration.  The continents will also be made a solid color.
[11:57] <davmor2> evand: I think it makes it a bit more obvious to select the time zone first and then the city.  I can see people clicking on the city list and wondering why their city isn't there :)
[11:58] <evand> hrm
[11:58] <davmor2> the way it's currently worded sorry
[12:00] <evand> I do need to move the text as well, per mpt's advice.  But perhaps splitting it up with "Select your timezone from the map, or choose from the list below" above the map and "Select your region, then select a city near you." below it and above the drop down boxes.
[12:07] <davmor2> Yes that would make it far more obvious :)
[12:07] <davmor2> the pointy finger works well :)
[12:26] <mpt> Select your time zone from the map, or by region and city.
[12:29] <mpt> Select your time zone from the map, or by region and a nearby city.
[12:29] <mpt> hrm
[12:30] <mpt> First is more harmonious, second is more accurate
[12:33] <mpt> (Pedantic note: "time zone" is English, "timezone" is programmerese)
[12:37] <cjwatson> hmm. clicking on the region of sea at the bottom of the UTC+1 zone results in the UTC+2 zone being selected.
[12:37] <cjwatson> indeed the click handling seems completely off in various ways ...
[12:37] <evand> The map is off somewhat.
[12:38] <evand> I need to work on lining up the timezone points better.
[12:38] <evand> But yes, perhaps clicking should stay within the timezone band
[12:38] <evand> Rather than going for the shortest distance possible
[12:38] <cjwatson> yes, I think it should be unambiguous that if you click within a band you get that band selected; it's very confusing otherwise
[12:39] <evand> absolutely, noted.
[12:40] <evand> mpt: noted, I'll make that change as well
[12:42] <CIA-3> base-installer: cjwatson * r353 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.98ubuntu2
[12:42] <cjwatson> I quite like the digital time beside the city
[12:45] <CIA-3> grub-installer: cjwatson * r769 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.36ubuntu2
[12:45] <evand> thanks, I need to work on that a little bit (moving it to the other side if you're on an edge, etc)
[13:04] <CIA-3> os-prober: cjwatson * r229 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.28ubuntu4
[14:09] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r130 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 128ubuntu7
[15:39] <lfaraone> evand: Will the liveUSB creator work (theoretically) with tape drives? I'm wondering if I should add that to the "allowed devices" while I'm at it, or whehter it's pretty much useless.
[15:41] <evand> I don't mind additional device types being added, provided they work of course, though I am very weary of making the test too broad and it picking up disk drives, leading a user to accidentally writing the usb image to one of their hard disk drives.
[15:42] <evand> I'm also weary of turning the project into a swiss army knife, but if the code needed is simple and doesn't loosen the existing checks, I wouldn't mind it.
[15:46] <lfaraone> evand: Don't worry, HAL lets you be *very* spesific.
[15:46] <lfaraone> evand: You want a debdiff?
[15:46] <evand> lfaraone: sure, or a regular diff would be fine
[15:47] <evand> ideally bzr branches, but I can work a little to get a patch merged :)
[17:47] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3025 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/timezone_map.py):
[17:47] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Show the time to the left of the selected time zone city if the text
[17:47] <CIA-3> ubiquity: would otherwise extend past the right edge.
[19:03] <lfaraone> evand: please merge the branch linked to bug 280336 (~lfaraone/usb-creator/sd-support), the patch someone attached doens't cover the related devices.