[00:22] grm [00:22] !pptp [00:22] pptp is not good according to Bruce Schneier http://schneier.com/pptp.html here the words insecurity are useful [00:22] Thats not helpful at all [00:24] ubottu: forget pptp [00:24] I'll forget that, Pici [06:01] Might be a nice url for pptp factoid: http://tipotheday.com/2008/04/29/connect-to-windows-vpn-server-pptp-with-ubuntu-hardy-heron/ [08:33] elk are you there ? [08:35] el [08:35] oops [08:35] * genii sips and looks out for genus cervus [08:35] @ [08:50] Weird. All this animosity against ubottu for some reason in #u [09:09] hm? [09:10] Tm_T: Ah, just some users telling him to shutup, doing stuff like !get pos !get laid etc etc [09:12] ... [09:42] panarchy is now becoming an issue in all ubuntu channels [09:42] his inability to parctipate or understand requests is getting very old [09:43] can someone please remove him from #offtopic - he's been warned 10 times about spamming channels with the same questions and he's just done #kubuntu #xubuntu and #offtopic [09:43] he's had enough warnings [09:47] * Panarchy says Hi [09:47] Is this where I go to report content problems with the ubottu bot? [09:47] no [09:47] you do that on launchpad [09:48] !bug [09:48] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [09:48] * genii slides jussi01 a strong coffee [09:48] * jussi01 gulps it down [09:48] Panarchy: while you are here - is there something I'm not making clear to you about spamming multiple channels ? [09:49] Panarchy: I have asked you 10 times to not spam the same queston in multiple channels, yet you've just done #kubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic #xubuntu ? [09:49] I've asked you - 10 - 15 times at least to stop [09:49] Panarchy: this is the sort of behaviour that will stop you getting your ban lifted and gain you futher bans [09:49] Panarchy: is there some part of asking you to stop doing it I'm not making clear? [09:49] Panarchy, you were warned that further misbehaviour would mean banning from #ubuntu-offtopic. can you give me any good reason why i shouldn't? [09:52] Panarchy: you need to respond to this question as it's clear something is going wrong ? [09:55] this is going no where - again [10:01] ladidida [10:01] same old thing [10:01] Panarchy: Please respond [10:02] idle for 15mins... [10:02] this is standard issue [10:02] because he's being told to do something [10:02] please also remove from #ubuntu-offtopic [10:03] this behaviour patern is getting very old with him [10:03] he is silent. no reason to remove. [10:03] jussi01: he's been asked 10 - 15 times at least to stop spamming multiple channels with the same question [10:03] ikonia: has he spammed -ot? [10:03] he did #kubuntu #xubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic with the same question at the same time [10:03] with the same question yes [10:04] he's been asked MANY times to stop doing this [10:04] I am not going to remove him when I didnt see it. if we are removing people there needs to a timely correlation with what they have done wrong. [10:04] I'm disagreeing on this [10:04] if someone is asked to stop doing something and persistantly keep doing it - it needs to be stopped [10:05] just because no-one was around at the time to catch him [10:05] ikonia: if he has done it before, hell do it again. well get him next time. [10:05] look at his ban list [10:05] allowing him to continue is just justifying his behaviour [10:05] I've just spoke to him about it in this channel - again and he just ignores it [10:06] ignores it [10:06] Well Miia has just gone and forwarded him here anyway. [10:06] so I notice, [10:06] thank you [10:07] huh? [10:07] I can take it off if you want to argue more [10:08] no no, I'm happy, not agruing, I'll go with what's decided, I'm just making my point clear [10:08] if you want to remove it - thats your call, I' won't argue it, I just want to be clear why I'm saying enough [10:08] "enough" I mean [10:09] take the forward off. he'll treat it as a game [10:10] I DESPERATELY want Kraft's Mac and Cheese. [10:10] like, NOW,. [10:10] * elky offers Myrtti some mustardy cheesy potato and sweet potato instead [10:18] huh?!?! http://qgil.jaiku.com/presence/53497458 [10:18] NOOOOO [10:18] LOL [10:18] *ROFL* [10:19] HAHAHAHAHA HHHHAAAA [10:20] the irony, it hurts [10:25] hahahahahaha [10:26] so, a paperless office? [10:26] *snork* [10:32] * Myrtti goes to make breakfast [10:42] he seems to be out there like a snow man [10:42] * Panarchy says Hi [10:42] hello again [10:43] I was very preoccupied with something I was doing. Came back online and found that I was banned. Seems that ikonia banned me. [10:43] Reason? [10:43] thank you for rejoining - I'd rather discuss it here than in a pm [10:43] Panarchy: did you not cross-post the same question in #ubuntu-offtopic #xubuntu and #kubuntu ? [10:44] Not sure [10:44] really..... [10:44] Have been 'offline' for a long time now [10:44] no you've not [10:44] Came back, and found that I was banned from #kubuntu [10:44] this was about an hour or two ago [10:44] well away [10:44] it was 35 minutes after you did it [10:44] it was less than an hour ago [10:44] Forgot to use the /away command [10:44] You are no longer marked as being awa [10:44] the /away command is not important to the reason [10:45] !think [10:45] Sorry, I don't know anything about think [10:45] lol [10:45] Panarchy: how many times have I asked you to a.) read/understand the topic b.) not cross-post the same question in multiple channels [10:45] how many times this week alone ? [10:46] Well my cross-posting involved all Ubuntu based distribution [10:46] Panarchy, you really are not in a position to debate anything here. You have proven that you cannot follow rules, and that you are perpetual waste of our time-based resources. [10:46] ikonia asked me to debate it here [10:47] I didn't ask you to debate anything [10:47] no, he didnt ask you to debate [10:47] I asked you to come here to discuss the ban rather than in a pm [10:47] if you wish to discuss it join #ubuntu-ops [10:47] Panarchy: your cross-posting did not invovle all ubuntu based distributions [10:47] he asked you to listen and respond, not argue a case. [10:47] ikonia: how didn't it? [10:48] Panarchy: you asked if there was any CD's you'd missed off the shipit site - thats not even an ubuntu distribution topic - thats just an offtopic question [10:48] Panarchy: how would #xubuntu know about any other shipt distros other than #xubuntu, same for #kubuntu etc etc [10:49] Panarchy: you asked in offtopic, that was a solid place to ask [10:49] #ubuntu-offtopic - sorry to be clear [10:50] ah [10:50] except your continued misbehaviour in there before then is the reason you're banned from there. [10:50] Okay, well now I know [10:50] Panarchy: great, so I suggest we move on and go about our IRC day [10:50] Panarchy: thanks for dropping in to dicuss this, much better than in pm [10:50] Better be off to bed now, early start tomorrow. Perhaps we can talk this over another day? [10:50] not much more to discuss, you understand the reason, so that's great [10:51] * Panarchy leaves to have Linux dreams [10:51] at least he didn't spam this time [10:51] I've asked him times to stop doing that too [10:51] he doesn't listen [10:52] do the ops of the other chan he 'graces' feel the same way about him as we do? [10:53] I know hentaiXP in ##windows is fed up of him [10:53] christel, can we have a few days respite? :P [10:53] talk to hentaix, I know I'm fed up of him [10:54] his main objective seems to be to annoy as many people as he can in the shortest space of time [10:55] he sucks at efficiency though [10:55] mission accomplished [10:55] I think he's just blind to what's going on - he's too busy trying to be "l33t" eg: threaten to take channels down, build linux distros, etc etc [10:55] bazhang, nah. i could annoy way more way quicker [10:55] has he threatened other channels? [10:55] elky: canIhavealollipop? [10:55] elky: plzok? [10:56] elky: lollipopok? [10:56] Myrtti, you're too cute to be annoying [10:56] IWANTALOLLIPOP [10:56] haha [10:56] NAO [10:56] * elky gives Myrtti a lollipop [10:56] lollipooooopssssss [10:56] lollipop lollipoplollipop [10:56] lollipop lollipoplollipop [10:56] lollipop lollipoplollipop [10:56] lollipop lollipoplollipop [10:56] hehehe [10:57] * ikonia is now annoyed - well done [10:57] see [10:57] all it needs is a professional touch [11:00] isn't firestarter unsupported these days? [11:01] probably [11:01] no idea [11:01] !firestarter [11:01] Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE). [11:01] !info firestarter [11:01] firestarter (source: firestarter): gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-6ubuntu4 (intrepid), package size 407 kB, installed size 1988 kB [11:01] :-o [11:02] didnt iptables get replaced with UFW [11:02] iptables is the bak of ufw isn't it [11:02] back [11:03] i thought it was a new thing altogether, but then, i'm out of touch with the tech decision side of things [11:03] I just use iptables, [11:03] I'm pretty sure ufw is jus a front end [11:03] it is [11:04] man page says so :) [11:04] cool [11:05] i cant imagine that replacing iptables would go down all that well [11:06] iptables is mega [11:06] well, it is the brainchild of Rusty [11:07] you should hide in mjg's suitcase in late jan and come over for an LCA [11:08] you get to rub shoulders with awesome peeps like Rusty and Tridge [11:10] anyway, bathtime [11:11] would be interesting [11:11] I'd enjoy a Aus trip [11:12] start saving :) [11:12] although, next LCA is ironically in NZ [11:12] NZ is on my list of places to see/visit [11:19] * Myrtti is feeling too friendly today [11:19] Myrtti: I feel time wasting is on the cards a lot today [11:20] yup [11:20] *sigh* [11:21] atleast sophie is now getting some help, she's been ignored in #ubuntu a lot... [11:21] she/he [11:22] I didn't see her in #ubuntu to be honest [11:22] Myrtti: got a meeting can you finish off helping her install ? [11:25] sure I can try [11:25] * Myrtti yawns [11:26] * Myrtti blinks [11:26] i want to go to new zealand, just to be able to say i've been to the other side of the world [11:26] can't go much further from here :) [11:33] topyli: yes, I'd like to see a totally different side of the planet [11:34] i bet everything is like in Opposite Land. who knows, they might even drive on the left side of the road or something crazy like that [11:34] or eat marmite [11:34] er [11:34] vegemite [11:35] * ikonia returns [11:35] \o/ marmite hilight [11:35] hehehe [11:35] popey: have you really got that on hilight ? [11:35] popey: we love you [11:35] ikonia: he has [11:35] you weirdo [11:35] :) [11:35] yes [11:35] marmite is wrong [11:35] 11:35:44 9 fosdem [11:35] 11:35:44 10 marmite [11:35] 11:35:44 11 kwak [11:35] :) [11:36] popey monitors all of freenode, to ensure nobody disses marmite [11:36] exactly! [11:36] popey: you're wrong....urghhh [11:37] I wish my hilights would work [11:37] Myrtti: in irssi ? [11:37] yeah [11:37] Myrtti: what's up with them, how did you set them ? [11:37] they dont eat vegemite in new zealand... [11:37] they're all wonky [11:38] jussi01: isn't vegemite - marmite (same product) ? [11:38] no [11:38] ooh, what's different ? [11:38] no [11:38] definately not [11:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/117221/ [11:38] vegemite is smoother [11:38] less harsh tasting [11:38] vegemite is marmite for girls basically :) [11:38] they taste different, hard to explain [11:38] popey: less chunky disgusitng taste then [11:38] chunky!? [11:38] popey: nono... careful [11:39] oh yeah, I should go and check if there's vegemite at W&S [11:39] jussi01: also I need some more of your unusual finnish drink [11:39] ikonia: you liked it last time? [11:39] yes, loved it [11:39] both of them [11:39] jussi01: are you teaching them to become Finnish alcoholics? [11:39] jussi01: tut-tut [11:39] the cloudberry stuff or the salmiakki? [11:39] Myrtti: bwahhahahah [11:39] the cloudberry desert stuff was nice, almost done with that, the salmiakki was finished last night [11:40] Myrtti: just upping the finnish GNP [11:40] :D [11:40] jussi01: oh, right [11:40] jussi01: carry on then [11:40] I'm upping the UK one [11:40] so I guess this evens things out [11:41] * Myrtti whistles innocently [11:41] aren't we international now [11:41] topyli: what non-uk produce can you offer me ? [11:42] reindeer meat. [11:42] no thanks [11:42] not even as jerky? [11:42] ikonia: I can source lots of things from Australia, jsut tell me what you want... [11:42] how shocking [11:42] marmite is so much better than vegemite [11:42] jussi01: non-uk varity [11:42] sun-dried reindeer jerky from lapland [11:42] ikonia: the reindeer meat is _sooo_ good [11:42] I had an assuie ginger beer drink the other day that was fantastic [11:42] mmmmmm [11:42] jussi01: can't do it [11:42] omnomnomnom [11:42] jussi01: break my heart [11:42] ikonia, bundaberg? [11:42] ikonia: the bunderberg stuff? [11:42] elky: :D [11:42] elky: brown tin ? [11:43] it comes in glass bottles over here [11:43] I think it was bunderberg, but can't be sure [11:43] dunno if it comes in cans at all [11:43] oh, maybe not then [11:43] ikonia: http://www.bundaberg-brew.com.au/ [11:43] it might for export [11:44] the guy who gave it me got it from an Aussie shop in London [11:45] yes it's that one [11:45] it had a kangaroo on the label [11:48] * jussi01 whacks ikonia with a pm bat [11:49] bundaberg is good for three things. sugar, ginger beer, and rum. [11:49] the gingerbeer was noce [11:49] yeah, it is [11:50] * jussi01 thwacks ikonia again :D [11:50] +1 on bunderberg ginger beer :) [11:51] the rum is good too, in small quantities [11:51] i find it too sweet myself [11:51] then, i'm a whisky girl, not a rum girl [11:51] didn't know they did run until 30 seconds ago [11:51] rum = mojito [11:52] ikonia, it's a dark rum [11:52] mmmmm mojitos [11:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundaberg_Rum [11:53] Myrtti: yeah get with it [11:54] you should be able to get the rum over there... it's owned by a british mob these days [11:55] elky: that means nothing [11:55] oh, and dont get the bright idea to mix the two bundaberg beverages. it's quite a sickly blend [11:55] I'll keep that in mind [11:55] rofl [11:56] even with dry ginger ale it's bad. some people seem to like it though [12:16] you did well with web stuff yesterday, who is my goto guy for "graphics" [12:16] as in good with image manipulation/editing [12:17] * Myrtti ducks and covers [12:17] depends how quick you want stuff [12:19] not urgent [12:19] just want help with some minor graphics stuff [12:20] trying to learn / do as much myself but I've readed a block on some stuff [12:20] mma could probably help, or kwwii [12:20] drop me a mail and i'll see what time i can find over the weekend while i avoid the intarwebs going 'wah, my valentine hates me, i'll go cut myself now' [12:20] ha ha poor elky - I'll send you some chocies [12:20] elky: at least you have a valentine... [12:20] jussi01: good to know [12:20] jussi01: I'll send you some too [12:21] :) [12:21] jussi01, no, i dont. [12:22] choccies all round [12:22] but irc and esp -offtopic will turn into a haze of emos mourning how their crush doesnt even know they exist [12:23] can I be an emo too? [12:23] we decided we're postponing Valentines with one month and two days [12:23] valentines day on saturday, hrmmm... might just go and sit in my house and do nothing, dont beleive in stupid comercial holidays :P [12:23] Myrtti: do you want choccies too then ? [12:24] * ikonia begins a big on line order [12:24] ikonia: I suppose I'll be getting them :-) [12:25] I still think Cadbury's Dairy Milk is the worst excuse for milk chocolate I've seen so far [12:25] * jussi01 slaps Myrtti [12:25] what? [12:25] it's horrible [12:26] if I have to have milk chocolate, it's either Marabou or if that can't be found, Fazer [12:26] and yes I know that's not the reason you slapped me, jussi01 [12:27] ;) [12:27] glad you work it out [12:27] there is an idiot in my loco offtopic channel arguing that writing an OS in C does not make sense, and we should be porting linux to be written in Python. [12:27] hehehhehehehehehe [12:27] elky: great fun ;-) [12:28] elky: I parted there cause I kept getting hilighted... [12:28] jussi01, oh? by who? [12:28] aside from me [12:28] his fan club [12:28] the "juicers" I like to call them [12:28] elky: noone in particular, just swear words [12:29] ikonia: !! [12:30] and every kid in Australia has heard that particular swear word multiple times cince bnirth ;) [12:30] ah. yes. the whole me not being there to bitchslap their manners into them anymore [12:30] cripes my typos are bad today [12:31] the channel is primarily there so they can talk about sport and cars etc, without flooding the logs with irrelevent crap [12:31] yep [12:31] no knitting or cooking or babies? j/k [12:32] and they have some serious verbal diorehea...:P [12:32] they just abuse the relaxed nature of it. there was a decision to not lynch for swearing, and some take it too far quite easily [12:32] jussi01, the one starting with simple? [12:32] elky: and the rest of them... [12:34] ♥ Radiohead [12:35] jussi01, he's trying to argue that C is *more* abstracted than Python [12:36] elky: you've got mail [13:08] !alias [13:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about alias [13:09] hold on, brain thinking [13:09] We're sorry, all of our operators are currently busy. Please continue to hold. [13:10] Pici: help me out here [13:10] !panels [13:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about panels [13:10] !panels-#xubuntu [13:10] Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panels | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [13:10] !resetpanels [13:10] To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [13:10] What are we looking to do? [13:10] more aliases for that xubuntu factoid [13:10] !panel, !xfce4-panel [13:10] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:11] I've forgotten my ubottufu [13:11] though with jaunty that factoid should become obsolete [13:12] isn't it !alias xfce4-panel panels or something? [13:12] I can't think [13:12] HAELP HAELP [13:12] !xfce4-panel is Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panels | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [13:12] I'll remember that, Pici [13:12] but... [13:12] !-panels [13:12] Sorry, I don't know anything about panels [13:12] !-panels-#xubuntu [13:12] panels-#xubuntu has no aliases - added by Amaranth on 2009-02-06 22:43:21 [13:13] !no panels-#xubuntu is xfce4-panel [13:13] I'll remember that Pici [13:13] You can't to a channel specific factoid iirc. [13:13] oh. [13:13] ok [13:13] !panels is resetpanels [13:13] I'll remember that, Pici [13:13] !panel-#xubuntu [13:13] Sorry, I don't know anything about panel-#xubuntu [13:14] !panel-#xubuntu is foo [13:14] I'll remember that, Myrtti [13:14] !no panel-#xubuntu is xfce4-panel [13:14] I'll remember that Pici [13:14] ie. !panel is panels-#xubuntu wouldnt work [13:15] right [13:15] can you just overwrite alias [13:16] or do you have to remove and re-alias [13:16] You have to use '!no foo is bar' [13:18] Pici: nice catch [13:19] !xfce4-panel-#xubuntu ~= s/xfce4-panels/xfce4-panel/ [13:19] I know nothing about xfce4-panel-#xubuntu yet, Myrtti [13:19] !xfce4-panel ~= s/xfce4-panels/xfce4-panel/ [13:19] I'll remember that Myrtti [13:20] nalioth: Do you run two floodbots? I can never remember... if so, could you start a second one? [13:22] jussi01: Duncan says it's ok if I give you my Marmite :-) [13:23]