[00:00] <Huufarted> Josh1, just ask the question, don't ask if you can ask it.
[00:00] <yves_> this may be a stupid noob-question: when i run something in terminal (e.g. espeak, i just open terminal and type espeak), how do I get back to normal terminal-mode?
[00:00] <vigo> avtarr: gksudo work?
[00:00] <avtarr> i've edited /root/.bashrc /root/.profile /etc/environment /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/login.defs but no dice
[00:00] <vigo> hrmmm
[00:00] <Huufarted> yves, first you need to ctrl-C to kill the app
[00:00] <yves_> ok thx
[00:01] <Huufarted> OR you can type:  espeak &
[00:01] <avtarr> and /root/.bash_profile
[00:01] <Huufarted> which will execute the application and return you to the terminal
[00:01] <dan__> hello
[00:01] <Mavericks> josh1:what is your question
[00:01] <warbler99> yves: generally ctrl-c works as an escape
[00:01] <mrwes> avtarr, have you tried /etc/profile?
[00:01] <wolter> hi, i am unable to execute anything on my ntfs storage drive...
[00:01] <mrwes> heh
[00:02] <spritle> anyone upgraded to 9.04 yet?
[00:02] <warbler99> if you want to drop something into the background instead of exiting you can type ctrl-z followed by "bg"
[00:02] <dan__> Can anyone help me get my VNC working?
[00:02] <Mavericks> wolter: permissions issue may be
[00:02] <melwtech35> anyway can someone help me configureeeeeee pg_hba.conf? i am getting errors?
[00:02] <gmspence> dan___ whats the problem?
[00:02] <avtarr> mrwes: yup
[00:02] <avtarr> export PATH="$PATH:/var/lib/gems/1.8/bin"
[00:02] <avtarr> with that in it
[00:02] <wolter> Mavericks, yeah.. the strange thing is that my user has 'create and delete' files, so nautilus said.
[00:02] <josh1> i was trying to get the Mac look alike task bar, and well.. that didnt work, i deleted my taskbar as the insturctions on a web site said to, i was able to get a taskbar back, but i cant minamize anything to it, i found out that i cant run AWN which had the mac taskbar i wanted, what can i do about both these issues?
[00:03] <Huufarted> I'm looking at adding a shutdown/reboot to my cron for a weekly reboot.  What's the safest reboot command to use for this?
[00:03] <dan__> I'm running RealVNC on my windows machine, and attempting to connect from my ubuntu laptop, but nothing happens when I try to use any of the VNC clients i've got installed
[00:03] <wolter> Mavericks, also, i chmod +x all the files.
[00:03] <Pici> avtarr: Have you relogged since you made that change?
[00:03] <gregspence> the windows machine on the same network?
[00:03] <dan__> Yes
[00:03] <Huufarted> avtarr:  export PATH; PATH=<Your path>
[00:03] <avtarr> here's the weird part
[00:03] <avtarr> i just tried this...
[00:03] <avtarr> sudo echo $PATH
[00:03] <avtarr> - /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/var/lib/gems/1.8/bin
[00:03] <Pici> avtarr: why sudo?
[00:05] <vigo> @echo $path ,,yada yada yada
[00:05] <Guest59739> hello, can anyone please tell me how many source links they got in their software sources?
[00:05] <mrwes> avtarr, does the group have rites to that path?
[00:05] <Huufarted> Avtarr, are YOU trying to execute this program or is some root command executing it?
[00:05] <Flannel> Guest59739: You don't need any.
[00:05] <nifty> flannel why not?
[00:05] <spritle> can 8.10 direct upgrade to 9.04 without reinstalling?
[00:05] <dan__> Ive got thee port opened, and i even got it to prompt me for a pssword once, but now it wont even do that anymmore
[00:05] <Flannel> spritle: Yes.  #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions.
[00:05] <fearful> avtarr: That command "sudo gedit" will open it as a text file
[00:05] <Flannel> nifty: Because you don't need any source repos
[00:06] <spritle> ah
[00:06] <fearful> avtarr: It's a test
[00:06] <avtarr> Huufarted: i'm logged in as a normal user and typing "sudo facter"
[00:06] <nifty> flannel: how so? i got find anything in the software package manager
[00:06] <gregspence> dan___ u get my msg?
[00:06] <avtarr> Huufarted: facter is a script in that directory i mentioned
[00:06] <nifty> i cannot find anything that is
[00:06] <Flannel> nifty: source repositories vs binary repositories
[00:06] <Huufarted> ah...
[00:06] <fearful> avtarr: Yea try and open it in text "sudo gedit facter" to see if it working like the file
[00:06] <xoox> I had packages from a wrong distro version in a directory that I had in my sources.list. I did an 'apt-get update' and then noticed I was going to install those packages on upgrade. I removed the line from sources.list, apt-get update; apt-get clean; but the packages are still listed for upgrade (I know they are being pulled from file on my machine through apt-cache policy). What gives?
[00:07] <melwtech35> anyway can someone help me configureeeeeee pg_hba.conf? i am getting errors?
[00:07] <nifty> flannel: ok so what do i need to find software such as amule, ssh, tightvnc and so forth?
[00:07] <Huufarted> Avtarr, what's the exact error it gives you?
[00:07] <avtarr> Huufarted: sudo: facter: command not found
[00:07] <sathyrio1> nifty: use command: sudo apt-get install amule ssh tightvnc
[00:08] <avtarr> but when i log in as root by doing "sudo su -"
[00:08] <avtarr> then it works
[00:08] <nifty> i have and it says it cannot find it
[00:08] <Huufarted> Avtarr, add it to your path
[00:08] <Huufarted> not to root's path
[00:08] <Flannel> nifty: Er... ssh is installed by default.  amule is in universe  and tightvnc is in multiverse.  Which both are enabled by default on recent versions of Ubuntu.  Whta version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:08] <avtarr> yea it's in my path as well
[00:08] <nifty> flannel: i downloaded the alternative 8.10 desktop version
[00:08] <Lord_Nightmare> if i apt-get install an already insalled package and it says "<package> set to manually installed." how do i UNSET that?
[00:08] <avtarr> this is really weird, i've done this a million times before
[00:09] <avtarr> :/
[00:09] <Huufarted> does it show up when you 'echo $PATH' without sudo?
[00:09] <Lord_Nightmare> otherwise that messes up autoremove
[00:09] <avtarr> yup
[00:09] <redvamp128> xoox:  purge?
[00:09] <Flannel> nifty: Alright.  When you installed, did you have the computer connected to the internet?
[00:09] <nifty> flannel: yes
[00:09] <Huufarted> perhaps control characters in the script's name.  do this:  ls -b <full_path_for_facter>
[00:09] <Flannel> nifty: Alright, go ahead and pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list, I'll take a look at them
[00:09] <nifty> kk one sec
[00:10] <xoox> redvamp128: What command?
[00:10] <nifty> flannel: http://pastebin.com/me6b3869
[00:10] <Mavericks> josh1:i was trying to get the Mac look alike task bar, and well.. that didnt work, i deleted my taskbar as the insturctions on a web site said to, i was able to get a taskbar back, but i cant minamize anything to it, i found out that i cant run AWN which had the mac taskbar i wanted, what can i do about both these issues?
[00:10] <redvamp128> xoox:  I don't know the usage-- but I need to check-- I just know that you have tried clean-- but have seen purge used before
[00:10] <Mavericks> josh1: regarding this issue  - can you post the website the instructions?
[00:10] <Pollywog> what can be done when an app's dialog box is too big for the screen?
[00:10] <nifty> flannel: can i pm you?
[00:10] <Flannel> nifty: Ah.  Is this a fresh install?  (That all looks fine)
[00:10] <Mavericks> josh1: there might be a missing link or a piece of information in it , or sometihng related to deletion
[00:11] <nifty> flannel: yes its a new install
[00:11] <xoox> redvamp128: Purge is used to remove configuration files when removing a package
[00:11] <Flannel> nifty: right.  Before you can install anything, you need to fetch the list of packages:  sudo apt-get update
[00:11] <redvamp128> spritle:  Ask that question in #ubuntu+1 you are more likely to find someone who either has 9 or has upgraded
[00:11] <nifty> flannel: i already installed the os can i still do this after installed?
[00:11] <Flannel> nifty: After that, you can install stuff.  Again, ssh is already installed.  And others likely have slightly different names.  apt-cache search [whatever]
[00:12] <Flannel> nifty: Yeah, you need to do this after you install.
[00:12] <nifty> flannel: ok thanks ill try it now
[00:12] <peope> What is the rationale for not using the preemtive kernel patch in generic kernel?
[00:12] <melwtech35> anyway can someone help me configureeeeeee pg_hba.conf? i am getting errors?
[00:12] <Flannel> peope: generic kernel does have PREEMPT enabled, server doesn't.
[00:13] <peope> Flannel: strange.. what do we have linux-rt package for then?
[00:13] <wolter> hi, how do i realize which processes need a partition? I can't unmount because some processes are using it.. and its just a storage drive.
[00:13] <josh1> is there anythign i can do?
[00:13] <Huufarted> vsftpd question:  My vsftpd tells me only anonymous login.  How do I enable individual user logins like normal?
[00:14] <Flannel> peope: That's the realtime kernel, that's different than PREEMPT
[00:14] <redvamp128> xoox:  I think I may find something that may or may not work -- sudo apt-get autoclean
[00:14] <peope> Flannel: oh.. I see. Thank you :)
[00:14] <BJ_> Help plz
[00:15] <Bigglezor> Good Evenin/mornin
[00:15] <Bigglezor> Having issues, mind if I ask a question? :)
[00:16] <Pollywog> just ask the question
[00:16] <letalis> !question
[00:16] <Bigglezor> hehe
[00:17] <Bigglezor> ookies
[00:17] <Huufarted> !vsftpd
[00:17] <Huufarted> !ftp
[00:17] <Huufarted> !ftpd
[00:17] <Huufarted> !info vsftpd
[00:17] <Bigglezor> right, well nab question, dual booting with xp 64bit, i've installed ubantu twice but it just boots straight into windows when i reset, no grub screen or anything
[00:18] <Bigglezor> (ubuntu
[00:18] <xoox> redvamp128: No that doesn't do anything to solve the problem
[00:18] <Chlorate> My sound skips in intrepid when I have used multiple mp3 players? Any ideas?
[00:18] <sathyrion> !EPA
[00:18] <Jufis> does anyone know a good mouse gesture application?
[00:18] <Flannel> Huufarted: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[00:18] <sathyrion> !PAE
[00:18] <sathyrion> !PEA
[00:18] <dogmagitron> hello can anyone tell me how i can know when my pc was last turned on and what time? thanks
[00:18] <Flannel> !botabuse | sathyrion
[00:18] <Huufarted> Flannel, thanks
[00:18] <melwtech35> never mind i did it myslf you slops
[00:18] <Pollywog> k
[00:19] <Flannel> !attitude | melwtech35
[00:19] <Pollywog> I will have to remember that one
[00:19] <Huufarted> <--- slop
[00:20] <nbeebo> how many mb's would the log for this channel be?
[00:20] <gregspence> hi guys anyone able to help me with my vpn.  set up pptd - can connect remotely and access system shares however cannot send any other traffic over the connection - soon as I fire up browser states connection failed
[00:20] <gregspence> any ideas?
[00:21] <Pici> !logs | nbeebo
[00:21] <nifty> flannel: is iptables also installed by default?
[00:21] <^hashbang^> !pptp
[00:21] <Flannel> nifty: should be.
[00:21] <^hashbang^> !vpn
[00:22] <gregspence> yeah but pptp is just a quick way to make sure no one can see what i'm doing over their connection
[00:22] <martin101> Hello all, I wonder if someone can answer a question regarding gnome-panel?
[00:22] <Xamusk> for bigger home systems (like with 4GB RAM) should I use a swap partition or is it better to use a swap file to be able to redimension it better?
[00:22] <dogmagitron> hello can anyone tell me how i can know when my pc was last turned on and what time? thanks
[00:22] <foolz> does anyone know how I can check what version of Beryl / Compiz / whatever it is that I have, and whether it is compatible with my Ubuntu version (7.10)?  I just upgraded to 7.10 from 7.04 and my Beryl Window Manager is making the window borders disappear
[00:22] <Pollywog> dogmagitron: uptime?
[00:22] <Myrtti> dogmagitron: 'uptime'
[00:22] <Bodsda> foolz, compiz --version ?
[00:23] <dogmagitron> thanks Pollywog and Myrtti
[00:23] <Smegzor> yay!  I have a skype connection to my client after all.  How easy is it to record a skype call in Ubuntu?  On Windows there is a plugin for that but it is an exe.  If I am desperate I can install Skype on my virtual XP and do it that way.
[00:23] <foolz> bodsda, thanks... seemed to work... are Compiz and Beryl the same thing now? I have been letting my linux knowledge stagnate lately unfortunately :)
[00:23] <^hashbang^> Smegzor: if you get sound working through Virtualbox let me know
[00:24] <Bigglezor> right, well nab question, dual booting with xp 64bit, i've installed ubantu twice but it just boots straight into windows when i reset, no grub screen or anything??
[00:24] <Bodsda> foolz, nope, never where never will be -- beryl is discontinued and the compiz extras team joined with the compiz guys to create compiz-fusion
[00:24] <Smegzor> ^hashbang^: I've had sound in virtualbox for ages.  I'm about to install Skype there.  I'll letcha know if that works with sound.
[00:24] <dogmagitron> Pollywog and Myrtti that only tells me how long my PC has been running. Do you know how it can tell me for example when my system was last turned on?
[00:24] <Forza> hey guys quick question... i have a 2.4ghz core 2 duo with 4gb of ram.... should i install x86 or x64 version of ubuntu??? what is your opinion?
[00:24] <Pollywog> Bigglezor: did you forget the MBR
[00:24] <Pollywog> ?
[00:25] <Pollywog> dogmagitron: you might try the bootlog
[00:25] <^hashbang^> Smegzor: under ubuntu being the host? you have sound from your windows system? hmmmm
[00:25] <Bigglezor> well I was readying a tut that said let it do its thing and the boot screen should come up
[00:25] <Smegzor> yip
[00:25] <Bigglezor> *reading
[00:25] <foolz> bodsda, ah, okay... I guess it might be easiest for me to just uninstall this Beryl version I have now, or whatever it is, and get the latest compiz-fusion thing then
[00:25] <linuxman410> Forza x64 i would
[00:25] <^hashbang^> Smegzor: I'll have to poke around somemore then =)
[00:25] <Bigglezor> so left it to use hd0
[00:25] <Smegzor> I disabled pulse audio
[00:25] <Pollywog> you have to enable the bootlog and I think the way to do it has changed recently
[00:25] <^hashbang^> Smegzor: ah, good idea
[00:25] <^hashbang^> Smegzor: thx
[00:26] <Bigglezor> yea, the install has changed from last time i used it
[00:26] <Pollywog> it was in /etc/default
[00:26] <Bigglezor> i think
[00:26] <Bigglezor> but as i say, am a nab
[00:26] <Forza> linuxman410, is the performane increase noticable?
[00:26] <Bodsda> foolz, yes! get rid of beryl now!
[00:26] <dogmagitron> thanks Pollywog
[00:26] <josh1> are there any codes i can use to fix my taskbar? i have one but when i minamize things, they disaper and do not go onto it
[00:26] <Bigglezor> it's set up by default to use the bootloader
[00:26] <linuxman410> Forza i think it is i am running the x64 version
[00:27] <Pici> josh1: you need to add the 'window list' applet to your panel.
[00:27] <Forza> yeah im running x64 on my main desktop, and its great but i have 8bg of ram
[00:27] <Smegzor> ^hashbang^: with pulse audio enabled, ubuntu would lose sound while virtualbox had it, unless I was playing music when I launched virtualbox.  with pulse disabled, both can use sound without issue.
[00:27] <Pollywog> Bigglezor: I think you will have to install again but first read the documentation about how to finish the install
[00:27] <Forza> i was wondering if it was owrth it for the laptop with 4gb considering some of the troubles you run into with x64
[00:27] <Pollywog> it is a bit tricky sometimes to write the MBR correctly
[00:27] <linuxman410> Forza my desktop only has 2gb ram but i notice a difference
[00:28] <Bigglezor> re-installing is fine, takes no time, just the documentation i've foindf on the net if for an old ver
[00:28] <Bigglezor> *found
[00:28] <Bigglezor> !install
[00:28] <^hashbang^> Smegzor: lol, I didn't enable audio in VB lol
[00:28] <Pollywog> I just installed intrepid and did not have to fiddle with the MBR but I did in some versions of Debian and *buntu
[00:28] <Smegzor> then there is that :)
[00:28] <dogmagitron> hello can anyone tell me how i can know when firefox was last run?
[00:29] <josh1> thank you Pici that did the job
[00:29] <Bigglezor> well tyvm, I shall have another bash and i'll be back on either os either way :)
[00:29] <Chlorate> When I run compiz and a video, the refresh rate seems wrong and the video flashes black? I'm on intrepid.
[00:29] <Forza> ok thanks for the advice i will go with the x64 flavor then
[00:29] <Pollywog> dogmagitron: no I think that is generally not possible
[00:29] <Forza> anyone try ubuntu 9.1 yet?
[00:29] <Forza> is it worth the download in the alpha stage?
[00:30] <dogmagitron> thanks Pollywog I think I just found out here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/get-last-accessed-file-time-in-ubuntu-linux/
[00:30] <linuxman410> Forza i tried 9.04 alpha 4 and loved it
[00:30] <Pollywog> dogmagitron: you can sometimes get a clue by looking at the browser cache
[00:30] <dogmagitron> Pollywog my wife has been accessing my pc while i am asleep.........
[00:30] <Forza> any noticable enhancements over 8.10?
[00:30] <Pollywog> or get software like that which is used to monitor kids access
[00:30] <Pollywog> dogmagitron: oic
[00:31] <Pollywog> well she likes the Penguin
[00:31] <dogmagitron> Pollywog lol
[00:31] <bartek_> welcome, anybody has experience with ir and lirc; i have hp pavilion dv5 with remote control - hp rc6; only one button is working for me out of the box
[00:31] <dogmagitron> I gave her a Penguin before going to sleep ;)
[00:31] <^hashbang^> Smegzor: you use shared folders on VB?
[00:32] <Pollywog> well now you know what she wants for her birthday, a computer
[00:32] <linuxman410> Forza programs install easier and run better in my opinion
[00:32] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to boot off a livecd.  I see an x, then a mouse pointer, then it turds out.  Ctrl+Alt+anumber doesn't dump me into a command line.  Any advice?
[00:32] <gajop> hey, is there no 64bit version of flash available at ubuntu repos? I thought it was released some time ago; and no I don't mean the nspluginwrapper crap that breaks after 10min of use, i mean the real thing
[00:33] <Forza> ok i will try it
[00:33] <Forza> thanks
[00:33] <dogmagitron> Pollywog: lol ok, ill give her this one when I get a new one :)
[00:33] <Pollywog> dogmagitron: giver her an account on your machine
[00:34] <craigbass1976> Is there some "safer" mode I can boot into?
[00:34] <jrib> craigbass1976: what does that mean?
[00:34] <BBishop> whoa .. where did /proc/acpi/wmi/WMID go in 8.10 ? :|
[00:34] <Pollywog> craigbass1976: yes Ubuntu installs one
[00:34] <Pollywog> by default
[00:35] <craigbass1976> jrib, something that's more likely to work somewhat regardless of your graphics card
[00:35] <craigbass1976> all I need is a command line
[00:35] <Pollywog> craigbass1976: you can get that by hitting esc key when the machine boots
[00:36] <Pollywog> then select the image you want to boot and enter the 'e' key
[00:36] <craigbass1976> Pollywog, when it boots off the cd?
[00:36] <Pollywog> ohhhh
[00:36] <m4rk> hel0
[00:36] <Pollywog> use the text install
[00:36] <craigbass1976> Ahh...
[00:37]  * BBishop wants /proc/acpi/wmi/WMID in 8.10 !!!!!
[00:37] <celaborn> exit
[00:37] <starphoenix> can anyone help me get a VNC working between ubuntu and windows?
[00:37] <Pollywog> on my disc that I got in Linux Format I had an option to use a text install but when I burn my own CD I used the alternate install CD image
[00:38] <Jufis> StrokeIt alternative for ubuntu?
[00:38]  * YankDownUnder thinks "Ubuntu's Evil Twin"
[00:38] <Pollywog> starphoenix: did you install Xming or the VNC program on Windows?
[00:38] <Pollywog> I assume you want to VNC from Windows to Linux?
[00:39] <craigbass1976> starphoenix, vncviewer windows-ip-address
[00:39] <Bacta> Hi why can I only get libxml-2.0 from Synaptic?
[00:39] <Bacta> I need libxml-2.6
[00:39] <Huufarted> What's the safest 'shutdown' command to use to reboot an ubuntu machine?
[00:39] <Bacta> reboot
[00:39] <YankDownUnder> Bacta, Did you setup your sources to include beta/unreleased stuff?
[00:39] <Bacta> Don't think so, how can I?
[00:39] <craigbass1976> Pollywog, how to I boot to cli only?  I' at a boot: prompt, and haven't yet found the answer in google.  I don't want to install, just grab some files
[00:39] <Pollywog> shutdown -r  0
[00:39] <starphoenix> to windows from linux
[00:40] <YankDownUnder> Bacta, Souces Mangler
[00:40] <Huufarted> Bacta, I tried that last time and it froze at the boot progress bar
[00:40] <Kryzler> Huufarted, you need to do sudo reboot
[00:40] <Huufarted> thanks, Pollywog
[00:40] <Huufarted> aye, Kryzler, thanks.
[00:40] <Kryzler> np
[00:40] <Pollywog> craigbass1976: there is an option to boot off the disk
[00:40] <Pollywog> on older versions you would enter:  boot: linux
[00:40] <Pollywog> or a variation of that
[00:41] <Bacta> YankDownUnder: I'm in Software Sources, now where?
[00:41] <YankDownUnder> Third-Party
[00:41] <craigbass1976> Pollywog, disk won't boot; cooked drive
[00:41] <Pollywog> oic
[00:41] <Bacta> Ok, what do I add?
[00:41] <YankDownUnder> Bacta, Oopos - sorry - UPDATES...sorry mate
[00:41] <Bacta> kk :)
[00:41] <Pollywog> craigbass1976: not sure then
[00:41] <Huufarted> Offtopic for Pollywog:  You should consider being a Shellback instead of a Pollywog!
[00:42] <Bacta> Tick Unsupported?
[00:42] <Pollywog> Huufarted: :)
[00:42] <Pollywog> craigbass1976: you can get a rescue CD
[00:42] <Pollywog> there are several types
[00:42] <YankDownUnder> Bacta, Yeppers...then after ya happy with that, either do the "sudo apt-get update" from the cli or update through Synaptic
[00:42] <Pollywog> google for Linux system rescue
[00:42] <kebomix_> hello , how to add registery key to wine ?
[00:42] <YankDownUnder> Bacta, ...and the Pre-Release stuff...
[00:44] <Droopsta915> Is GTK POD the best program to use for my ipod?
[00:44] <Pollywog> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[00:45] <Pollywog> Droopsta915: probably not
[00:45] <mib_9xpe6p4u> droop - amarok maybe
[00:45] <Pollywog> Amarok works and there are some others
[00:45] <sileni> hey guys im having trouble installing spim in my ubuntu intrepid. My teacher said i could just do sudo apt-get install spim and it would work. But it is not working. I did research and its supposed to be in multiverse. I checked my sources.list and the multiverse repositories are uncommented. Any ideas on what i might be missing?
[00:45] <Pollywog> gtkpod is good though
[00:45] <Droopsta915> Is gtkpod ok to manage the songs on my ipod?
[00:45] <Zambezi> Droopsta915: If you have an old iPod, you can always flash it with Rockbox.
[00:46] <Pollywog> Droopsta915: yes
[00:46] <YankDownUnder> sileni, Have you manually edited the sources.list and uncommented those?
[00:46] <sileni> no
[00:46] <YankDownUnder> sileni, Hmmm...methinks that that would be a good thing.
[00:46] <Smegzor> ^hashbang^: yes i have a shared folder
[00:46] <kebomix_> how to add registry key to wine ? !
[00:46] <josh1> does any one know, any other way other than AWN to get a mac look alike taskbar?
[00:46] <sileni> YankDownUnder: hmm ok i go try it now
[00:46] <YankDownUnder> sileni, And bring me back a cheeseburger! :)
[00:47] <Droopsta915> Pollywog: Thanks for the help. Zambezi, I'll try flashing it next time for now I just want to add a few songs
[00:47] <YankDownUnder> josh1, http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-intrepid-into-mac-osx-leopard/2009/01/08
[00:47] <rambo298> anyone know why my forward/backward arrows in firefox would gray out permanently?
[00:47] <Pollywog> btw to the person who wants to boot to a command line, the System Rescue CD is very good for that but you have to download an ISO and burn it
[00:48] <YankDownUnder> rambo298, There's no where to go?
[00:48] <rambo298> i go to gmail ... no gray back arrow
[00:48] <rambo298> i go somewhere else
[00:48] <rambo298> no gray back arrow
[00:48] <YankDownUnder> Pollywog, If you edit the /etc/inittab and change the default to 1, does that not correct the issue?
[00:48] <YankDownUnder> rambo298, Not sure mate. Not sure...
[00:49] <rambo298> i did a recent auto-update then poof ... no more forward/backward ... tried reinstalling the firefox package ... same thing
[00:49] <riddlebox> hello I upgraded my system today that runs zoneminder, from the repos and now I cannot view my cameras?
[00:49] <sileni> YankDownUnder: i uncommented the multiverse-restricted entries, and it still cannot find spim
[00:50] <FrozenFire> Does anyone know of software for Ubuntu to manage SSHFS hosts in a GUI? I'm getting a little tired of manually juggling hosts and connecting each time via the command-line. It'd be nice if I could save host details, and connect with a single click.
[00:50] <Sigurd112> anyone here?
[00:50] <YankDownUnder> rambo298, Er...what about just blowing out yer profile dir for ~/.mozilla and then trying again...??
[00:50] <Daemonic> Sigurd112: nope.
[00:50] <FrozenFire> Sigurd112: Not a single person
[00:50] <YankDownUnder> sileni, Did you do an "apt-get update" -> ??
[00:50] <andrei> Bonjour, je souhaite savoir si puppy linux fonctionne avec fluxbox ...
[00:50] <sileni> YankDownUnder: im currently looking at this. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/electronics/spim if the package is available for dapper it should be available for intrepid
[00:50] <sileni> YankDownUnder: yes i did sudo aptitude update
[00:50] <Furu> 2cm of the edge of my laptop's lcd is damaged. does anyone know a app. that lets me just shrink my desktop so that it doesnt use the 2cm edge of the screen?
[00:50] <YankDownUnder> sileni, Yes...SHOULD...
[00:51] <andrei> fluxbox work with puppy linux ?
[00:51] <YankDownUnder> sileni, Matter of fact, if you already know where the .deb files are for SPIM, you should be able to just d/l them and install them manually if all else fails...
[00:51] <galvanize> Hi all
[00:51] <Furu> !fluxbox
[00:51] <andrei> !fluxbox
[00:51] <sileni> YankDownUnder: yes but it irks me , not being able to get this with apt-get
[00:51] <sileni> YankDownUnder: what am i doing wrong
[00:51] <andrei> dont work !fluxbox
[00:51] <kebomix_> how to add registery key to wine ?
[00:51] <daleharvey> urm ok, my ubuntu (ibex) laptop that has been running fine for quite a few month today, suddently was unable to boot tonight
[00:51] <sileni> YankDownUnder: let me cat my sources.list , and can you please take a look?
[00:52] <happyface_0> kebomix_: run regedit
[00:52] <YankDownUnder> sileni, I'd tend to reckon that the person responsible for packaging it did not upgrade themselves...
[00:52] <Gnea> sileni: there's probably a very good reason why it's not in intrepid...probably because it isn't actively maintained anymore
[00:52] <daleharvey> on boot it enters the initramfs shell
[00:52] <YankDownUnder> sileni, You'll have to pastebin it mate.
[00:52] <Furu> andrei  do u think i can use that program to solve my problem:P?
[00:52] <^hashbang^> kebomix: join #winehq
[00:52] <andrei> i'm loling
[00:52] <galvanize> I have changed my prompt, by ' set prompt='blahblah', and now I want to reset it to original. so I try set prompt again and it changes but when i close the terminal and restart it, it goes back to one i don't want? any help?
[00:52] <andrei> :)
[00:52] <rambo298> YankDownUnder: where's the mozilla profile?
[00:53] <sileni> YankDownUnder: http://rafb.net/p/vCpAUp76.html
[00:53] <daleharvey> with a few errors, the main one looking like mount: mounting /dev/disk/by-uuuid ....... on /root failed
[00:53] <Gnea> galvanize: tcsh?
[00:53] <YankDownUnder> rambo298, In your home dir, most likely it's called ".mozilla"
[00:53] <galvanize> bash
[00:53] <rambo298> i see it but there're several dirs there ... appreg  extensions  firefox  mozver.dat  pluginreg.dat  plugins
[00:54] <YankDownUnder> sileni, Looks good - did you do the "apt-get update" or whatever, to reload the database?
[00:54] <^hashbang^> galvanize: add export PS1=`\u@\h \w > ' to your ~/.bashrc
[00:54] <rambo298> in firefox? there's profiles.ini
[00:54] <Gnea> galvanize: oh, then you're doing it wrong on both fronts. bash doesn't use 'set', it exports the PS1 value. also, you'd need to place it in ~/.bashrc to have any permanent effect
[00:54] <sileni> YankDownUnder: yes, i did
[00:54] <galvanize> ok thanks everyone
[00:54] <rj_> hi all out ther
[00:55] <YankDownUnder> sileni, I just checked the forums...
[00:55] <YankDownUnder> sileni, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=971047
[00:55] <Dartel> Help I don't have gnome panels anymore running everything by searchinh hard drive
[00:55] <chris___> hey im having trouble figuring out how to limit a user to sections of an svn repository rather than the whole repo?
[00:55] <chris___> any thoughts gents?
[00:55] <YankDownUnder> sileni, It appears as though the package was removed on purpose, though you can still get the packages and manually install them...
[00:55]  * YankDownUnder looks around for gents...finds none, goes back to wheezing
[00:55] <craigbass1976> Ok, I found a "safe graphics" mode, and am up and running.  When I mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb2 /mnt, I get the wrongfs type, blahblah.  Is the drive too far gone?  I can fdisk it
[00:56] <Huufarted> Can anybody answer for me what libdrm is?
[00:56] <sileni> YankDownUnder: thank you so much i appreciate you taking your time to help me
[00:56] <delco83> chris set the permission on group and put them in that group
[00:56] <YankDownUnder> Huufarted, A systems library for DRM
[00:56] <YankDownUnder> sileni, No a worry mate.
[00:56] <delco83> !chgrp
[00:56] <Gnea> galvanize: this should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132173
[00:57] <Huufarted> YankDownUnder, DRM = Digital Rights Management?
[00:57]  * YankDownUnder needs more coffee, or electroshock
[00:57] <^hashbang^> Huufarted: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/libdrm.html
[00:57]  * riddlebox goes to get the cables and battery
[00:57] <Huufarted> ty
[00:57] <YankDownUnder> Huufarted, I'd assume so, unless it means "Domestic Revisionary Motel"
[00:57] <galvanize> is there a way to reset to the original .bashrc if i stupidly didn't make a backup?
[00:57] <Dartel> Help I don't have gnome panels anymore running everything by searchinh hard drive
[00:57] <^hashbang^> libdrm provides core library routines for the X Window System to directly interface with video hardware using the Linux kernel's Direct Rendering Modules
[00:58] <Huufarted> YankDownUnder, nope.  "Direct Rendering Module" which explains why it's needed for some graphics drivers.
[00:58] <YankDownUnder> galvanize, There should be a skeleton of that - so if you search on just "bashrc" you should be able to find it and replace the one you broke...
[00:58] <Huufarted> thanks for the link
[00:58] <Huufarted> and I'm outta here for now.  Off of work for the day.
[00:58] <Gnea> sileni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[00:58] <Nathan1995> KDE4000
[00:58] <YankDownUnder> Huufarted, Awesome...now we both know what it's for! (And it's not for a cheeseburger, so I'm uninterested now) :)
[00:58] <Nathan1995> :D
[00:58] <galvanize> yankdownunder, where do you mean search?
[00:59] <YankDownUnder> galvanize, Anywhere...hang on a tick...I'll find it...
[00:59] <sileni> Gnea: why ?
[00:59] <chris___> delco83: without sounding retarded, how do I set permissions on a folder in a repo? its not like finding a regular folder
[00:59] <Gnea> sileni: it seems they took scim and distributed its capabilities into 8.04 and 8.10
[00:59] <KDE4000> Nathan1995
[00:59] <sileni> Gnea, i was asking about spim not scim haha
[00:59] <Nathan1995> hi
[00:59] <KDE4000> hi
[00:59] <KDE4000> lol
[00:59] <Nathan1995> lol
[00:59] <YankDownUnder> galvanize, It's living under /etc/skeleton/.bashrc => make a copy of that over the one you toasted and you'll be right
[01:00] <Nathan1995> im normally only on ##networking on fn
[01:00] <Gnea> sileni: ... *facepalm*
[01:00]  * YankDownUnder thinks there's a bit of a diff between spim and scim...not much, just one letter, but enough...
[01:00] <^hashbang^> sileni: mips simulator?
[01:00] <galvanize> yankdownunder, thanks so much for the help.
[01:00] <YankDownUnder> galvanize, Buy me a cheeseburger and we'll be even! :)
[01:00] <sileni> ^hashbang^: yes, trying to get it to work in intrepid
[01:01] <^hashbang^> sileni: ok were you able to compile it?
[01:01] <galvanize> anytime you're around my part of town get in touch :)
[01:01] <sileni> ^hashbang^: nope reading through README
[01:01] <YankDownUnder> galvanize, Roger that, Houston
[01:01] <RandomJohn> Anny one know why my computer would keep freezing?
[01:01] <^hashbang^> sileni: ah ok I'll skip the readme and just try to complie it =)
[01:01] <YankDownUnder> RandomJohn, Cuz it's cold?
[01:02] <RandomJohn> -_-'
[01:02] <Gnea> sileni: looks like 'spim' is being worked on :) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/
[01:02] <sileni> ^hashbang^: im trying to find the xspim version. i don't dare deal with the terminal version
[01:02] <RandomJohn> It's not that cold.
[01:02] <YankDownUnder> RandomJohn, Mate, when that happens, first I'd check dust on fans/cpu/gpu and etc etc etc...that at least resolves an actual hardware issue. Then I'd test the mem...then I'd start on software
[01:02] <daleharvey> can anyone please give me a hand, my hard drive has seemingly dissapeared from my laptop and theres a bunch of stuff I could really ddo with not losing
[01:03] <^hashbang^> sileni: ah, ok I'm tryin to install the spim terminal version =)
[01:03] <daleharvey> it has been working perfectly up till tonight when it booted into initramfs
[01:03] <RandomJohn> Thanks YankDownUnder :D
[01:03] <sileni> ^hashbang^: hmm
[01:03] <sileni> ^hashbang^: im going to install both
[01:03] <^hashbang^> sileni: resolving complie deps like installing bison right now
[01:03] <Gnea> !revu
[01:04] <^hashbang^> sileni: and flex
[01:04] <Gnea> that's awesome, didn't know about revu
[01:04] <YankDownUnder> daleharvey, I'll assume you've booted with the LiveCD and checked that the disk was still there and visible?
[01:04] <^hashbang^> sileni: ok spim installed fine
[01:05] <Symmetria> hrm
[01:05] <sileni> ^hashbang^: do you know where i can find the xpim package
[01:05] <Symmetria> man, I wish ubuntu had a proper network install cd
[01:05] <^hashbang^> sileni: I downloaded it all from http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~larus/spim.html
[01:06] <mzz> hi! I'm going to do something terribly rude and ask about a problem on a system I can't currently access: its nautilus icons (and desktop context menu) sometimes disappear. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[01:06] <daleharvey> YankDownUnder: I dont have a live cd handy, ive been trying to search from the shell, the drive by-uuid is trying to boot seems there
[01:06] <daleharvey> but currently downloading a livecd
[01:07] <oem> hello
[01:07] <YankDownUnder> daleharvey, I'll assume you've tried like "fdisk -l /dev/sda" and you actually see the drive and the partitions, yah?
[01:07] <rambo298> YankDownUnder: i punted ... i installed seamonkey and will use that ... txs
[01:07] <^hashbang^> sileni: darn, xspim won't install for somereason... says I don't have stubs-32.h (which is correct, i'm using 64bit
[01:07] <YankDownUnder> rambo298, Way cool...(as long as it ain't Internet Exploder)
[01:08] <oem> where is the controle bar for the power of sound ?
[01:08] <rambo298> YankDownUnder: ie doesn't even render my joomla web site correctly; it's not w3c compliant and it total crap
[01:08] <daleharvey> fdisk isnt a command in initramfs
[01:08] <YankDownUnder> Power of Sound? Is that a band?
[01:08] <mzz> ^hashbang^: pastebin the last 20 lines or so of output?
[01:08] <oem> i can change it but no appear
[01:08] <YankDownUnder> rambo298, We knew it was total fecal matter when it first came out. Just put pearls on it is all they've done since...
[01:08] <mzz> oem: do you mean when pressing keyboard buttons for volume control?
[01:09] <oem> yes, the controle bar volume
[01:09] <Sarthor> routing for multiple uplinks /providers, my question is here, HELP
[01:09] <oem> of volume
[01:09] <daleharvey> and no, you cant assume I have done much other than panic :P
[01:09] <^hashbang^> mzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117074/
[01:09] <rambo298> YankDownUnder: ha my company just pushed out office 2007 ... what a total hairball ... pure doodoo
[01:09] <oem> y a des français ici ?
[01:09] <mzz> ^hashbang^: notice "gcc -m32", it's trying to build a 32-bit binary.
[01:09] <Sarthor> routing for multiple uplinks /providers, my question is here, HELP  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/routing-for-multiple-uplinks-providers-703789/
[01:09] <mzz> ^hashbang^: pastebin config.log?
[01:09] <daleharvey> and tentative google searches, which havent given me back much
[01:09] <YankDownUnder> rambo298, They need to have some thought...2007 is, well, yuck.
[01:10] <^hashbang^> mzz: so I need to run make -m64
[01:10] <mzz> ^hashbang^: no, not make. I think its configure may have misdetected something. Hang on.
[01:10] <bartek_> anybody has experience with ir and lirc; i have hp pavilion dv5 with remote control - hp rc6; only one button is working for me out of the box
[01:10] <oem> i have ubuntu (gos3) but i can't see the controle bar for the volume
[01:10] <sileni> ^hashbang^: hmm that is wierd im running 64 bit and i got it to work
[01:11] <mzz> ^hashbang^: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~larus/SPIM/spim.tar.gz is what you're trying to build, right?
[01:11] <^hashbang^> hmm
[01:11] <^hashbang^> mzz: yea
[01:11] <oem> can you suck my ass ?
[01:11] <^hashbang^> mzz: xspim
[01:11] <oem> user
[01:11] <^hashbang^> oem: please watch your language
[01:11] <mzz> ^hashbang^: ugh, no autotools build system. This'll take a minute.
[01:11] <oem> ta gueule batard
[01:11] <AETE_KRAOUD> hi all
[01:12] <^hashbang^> mzz: lol yea I had that same problem
[01:12] <oem> je nique ta mère
[01:12] <^hashbang^> !fr | oem
[01:12] <oem> ok merci
[01:12] <mzz> ^hashbang^: he knows that, he's just cursing in french for some reason
[01:12] <YankDownUnder> I believe that the French speaking channel is not quite this one...I could be mistaken...
[01:12] <^hashbang^> mzz: lol I know
[01:12] <^hashbang^> mzz: =)
[01:12] <oem> je fais comment ?
[01:12] <quadaptor> exists a command thats extract n bytes from the middle (= a specified position) of a file, like tail/head?  e.g. command -s 35 -b 29  => extract 29 bytes from byte/position 35 (starts at 29. byte)
[01:13] <^hashbang^> mzz: the -m32 is in the Makefile
[01:13] <xoox> quadaptor: Maybe awk. Try #bash.
[01:13] <mzz> ^hashbang^: meh, looks like the Makefile forces that. It's probably easier to fetch 32-bit libraries and headers to build against than to get this to build in 64-bit.
[01:13] <AETE_KRAOUD> i lost a partition of ext3 filesystem because a stupid click in  windows (dual boot) what to do to recover it?
[01:13] <mzz> quadaptor: iirc sed can do that
[01:14]  * mzz looks it up
[01:14] <^hashbang^> mzz: compat libs here I come
[01:14] <AETE_KRAOUD> do you want me to paste to paste bin the fdisk -lu ?
[01:14] <^hashbang^> mzz: tho, I don't need spim or xspim... lol
[01:14] <Wizzup> zzz
[01:14] <carpeliam|pidgin> i'm not hearing any audio output when i use aplay etc, but other devices connected to my soundcard play just fine- something's wrong with my audio setup, but how do i debug it?
[01:15] <^hashbang^> mzz: sileni needed it
[01:15] <mzz> ah
[01:15] <xoox> !sound | carpeliam|pidgin
[01:15] <^hashbang^> mzz: but thank you for the help =)
[01:16] <ari_stress> good morning all :)
[01:16] <mzz> quadaptor: hrm, this is trivial with sed if it involves lines instead of bytes...
[01:16] <AETE_KRAOUD> ari_stress, : good morning
[01:16] <mzz> I apparently forgot how to do it with bytes
[01:16] <xoox> quadaptor: You can use head and tail with the --bytes option
[01:16] <Furu> does anyone know a app, that would let me corp 90% of my lcd and let the edge stay black since its damaged and not readable? msg me please if you know one:)
[01:16] <fj1> :) hello
[01:17] <mzz> quadaptor: you can always just chain head and tail, of course
[01:17] <quadaptor> mzz: no, i must define bytes. :-/
[01:17] <xoox> quadaptor: --bytes
[01:17] <AETE_KRAOUD> how can i recover a dissapeared partition in ubuntu ?
[01:17]  * ^hashbang^ needs sleep... 
[01:17] <Wizzup> zzz
[01:17] <^hashbang^> wb Wizzup
[01:17] <quadaptor> but tail/head returns first OR last bytes, thats right?
[01:18] <fj1> I have a broadcom card in my dell mini9 that I can't get intrepid to play nice with. I've been all over the forums, and I'm out of ideas. Can anyone suggest anything?
[01:18] <^hashbang^> !sleep
[01:18] <Wizzup> Oh, did I 'zzz' in here already? hehe.
[01:18] <Wizzup> (afk)
[01:18] <AETE_KRAOUD> quadaptor,  : yes
[01:18] <quadaptor> or using "head -b 10 | tail -b 5" ... or so :)
[01:18] <mzz> quadaptor: yes, but you can chain them
[01:18] <mzz> quadaptor: yes, that.
[01:19] <quadaptor> mzz: okay, i'll try it... tomorrow. :-)
[01:19] <quadaptor> thx for help
[01:19] <Dartel> How do I turn gnome panels back on?
[01:19] <AETE_KRAOUD> guys any idea how to recover my lost partition in linux ?
[01:19] <AETE_KRAOUD> it was ext3
[01:20] <AETE_KRAOUD> but it is lost because of windows stupidity..
[01:20] <letalis> Dartel: if you have a means to run a command in x running gnome-panel & would load them again
[01:20] <Dartel> will try
[01:21] <wizard23> can someone help me with the sound diappearing after an upgrade in 8.10
[01:21] <Gnea> AETE_KRAOUD: no idea, perhaps you could explain exactly what happened?
[01:21] <letalis> wizard23: do you have multiple sound devices?
[01:21] <Raac> big botnet
[01:21] <AETE_KRAOUD> Gnea,  :exactly ? ok
[01:21] <Gnea> AETE_KRAOUD: yes, *exactly*.
[01:22] <AETE_KRAOUD> Gnea,  :deal!
[01:22] <Gnea> :)
[01:22] <AETE_KRAOUD> so i had an ntfs partition
[01:22] <pregier> wizard23:  fwiw, the best sound howto I've seen for ubuntu yet is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900 , though this won't help with hardware setup
[01:22] <Kryzler> wizard23, you may need to reassign your sound device to the default sound device
[01:22] <AETE_KRAOUD> and i dual boot with windows and ubuntu
[01:22] <SkEmO> where can i get games for intrepid?
[01:22] <wizard23> well i have one sound device t42
[01:23] <AETE_KRAOUD> so one day (yesterday ) i deleted the partition from windows with hust a click
[01:23] <letalis> wizard23: is it capable of being setup as a surround sound setup?
[01:23] <Gnea> AETE_KRAOUD: hrm, try to fit as much as you can on one line - makes it easier for others to help too
[01:23] <mzz> SkEmO: a bunch are available the same way other software is (synaptic or whichever apt frontend you prefer)
[01:23] <AETE_KRAOUD> Gnea, : ok i will do that this time :-)
[01:23] <mib_9xpe6p4u> what are you doing running your gui as root for in the first place? that was your first mistake
[01:23] <Gnea> AETE_KRAOUD: please :)
[01:23] <wizard23> no
[01:24]  * mzz wonders who mib_9xpe6p4u is replying to
[01:24] <wizard23> want to see also error out put?
[01:24] <CNLiberal> i need some MDADM help...is anyone available?
[01:24] <letalis> pastbin it please
[01:24] <letalis> !pastebin
[01:25] <Gnea> !raid | CNLiberal
[01:25] <xoox> I had packages from a wrong distro version in a directory that I had in my sources.list. I did an 'apt-get update' and then noticed I was going to install those packages on upgrade. I removed the line from sources.list, apt-get update; apt-get clean; but the packages are still listed for upgrade (I know they are being pulled from file on my machine through apt-cache policy). What gives? How do I remove references to these packages?
[01:25] <epcom> oooi
[01:25] <SkEmO> mzz:  but im not at my lappy with linux, im on windows
[01:25] <epcom> ?
[01:25] <mzz> SkEmO: iirc synaptic has a way to spit out a list of files to download
[01:25] <wolter> what does the sm-disable option do?
[01:25] <yoyoned> SkEmO: getdeb.net
[01:25] <CNLiberal> i'm aware of those resources, however, I'm still having issues with it
[01:26] <CNLiberal> specifically...when I boot my machine, it shows all 6 drives in /proc/mdstat
[01:26] <CNLiberal> cat /proc/mdstat shows the array as clean
[01:26] <CNLiberal> but a moment later /dev/sde1 drops out
[01:27] <CNLiberal> should I fail that drive then try initiating the array?
[01:27] <alan> is this where i can go to get help with ubuntu setup/
[01:27] <alan> ?
[01:28] <ojb> v
[01:28] <jruss> Hi I have been with ubuntu for a while but I am an IRC noob, so please go easy on me. I am having a bizarre system failure and I have run out of ideas of how to track it down.
[01:28] <jruss> I get a kernel panic at boot
[01:28] <mzz> alan: probably!
[01:28] <mzoer> hello newbie here
[01:29] <alan> i am having trouble installing compiz, hoping for some assistance
[01:29] <letalis> jruss: what was the last major change you made before the panic
[01:29] <Gnea> CNLiberal: not sure, never used it. if I were to start anywhere, it'd be with step #7 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461
[01:29] <_DEL> how do i remove gnome desktop environment?
[01:29] <mzoer> anyone able to help me install my wireless adapter?
[01:29] <jruss> well it doesn't happen consistently
[01:29] <jruss> it first happened a few months ago
[01:29] <CNLiberal> Gnea...thanks i'll look
[01:29] <jruss> the panic says that it failed to sync and it could not find init
[01:30] <mzz> alan: what are you trying to do exactly? If you have a regular ubuntu install you probably already have compiz, although it may not be running
[01:30] <jruss> however if my system sits off for a little while then things boot up fine
[01:30] <alan> no, not that simple unfortunately
[01:30] <letalis> jruss: maybe a hardware issue if your system does it intermittantly
[01:30] <mzz> jruss: that sounds like it's not picking up the root filesystem (or probably actually the drive that is on) for some reason
[01:30] <jruss> but after running for any where from minutes to a few days it will hang hard
[01:30] <CNLiberal> i'm gonna try marking the disk as bad
[01:30] <Gnea> jruss: is your CPU or motherboard overheating?
[01:30] <jruss> and then when  I reboot I get the kernel panic
[01:30] <ari_stress> _DEL: you want to use text mode only?
[01:30] <CNLiberal> i hope i don't break this thing
[01:31] <alan> i uninstalled what i had, trying to install a newer version, because i wanted a different alt-tab app switcher
[01:31] <pregier> jruss:  have you tried any hardware diagnostics yet?
[01:31] <jruss> i used lm-sensor to check temps
[01:31] <jruss> MB and CPU were in the 35-40 range
[01:31] <Gnea> jruss: what do they usually report back?
[01:31] <jruss> there wasn't a heave load
[01:31] <alan> and now i cant get the new version working, and i never set up the original version myself, so i dont know what to do for that
[01:31] <Gnea> jruss: celcius?
[01:31] <mzz> jruss: if it breaks intermittently and then stays broken until you leave the system off for a while that definitely sounds like either bad hardware or a loose cable to me
[01:31] <pregier> jruss:  smartctl -a /dev/sdX might be worth checking out
[01:31] <jruss> yes C
[01:31] <_DEL> ari_stress I have kde installed
[01:32] <mzz> jruss: what pregier said is an excellent idea
[01:32] <mzoer> can anyone help with a wireless installation question?
[01:32] <mzz> jruss: I'd also physically replug the relevant (hd) cables
[01:32] <jruss> I checked out smartctl on my disks and they all passed
[01:32] <mzz> mzoer: just ask the question (I probably can't answer but someone else might)
[01:32] <jruss> I unhooked all disk but the boot disk and I still get the kernel panic
[01:32] <mzz> jruss: I'd need a few more lines from the failing kernel to confirm it's not finding the hd
[01:33] <jruss> I also ran e2fsck on the boot drive with the -c option to check badblocks and it passed
[01:33] <mzz> jruss: (perhaps take a picture of the screen and upload that somewhere)
[01:33] <ari_stress> _DEL: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, but i'm not sure whether it will break your ubuntu or not
[01:33] <jruss> give me a minute and I will get you the actual message when it fails
[01:33] <mzz> jruss: if it's just the filesystem that's bad I'd expect it to fail differently (no intermittent boot failure and no hard hang, "just" a forced remount readonly)
[01:33] <jruss> it is short
[01:34] <AETE_KRAOUD> I am dual booting windows and ubuntu  and i had two partitions ntfs and three ext3 and swap for linux . so before 3 days i used mkfs.ext3 and maked the ntfs to an ext3 partition and everything was fine.... but yesterday i booted on windows and i shaw that the ntfs D:/ ICON was still there ... sto i deleted because i thought it was not useful but as long as i booted linux the ext3 has been also vanished and i can't find anywhere . i
[01:34] <AETE_KRAOUD> type fdisk -lu  and it becomes clear that windows has maked the new ext3 partition  .. just free space . The bad thing is tha had some data in there and i want to  know if there is a posibiliity to recover the partition somehow . Ithink that it must be possible because i hevent formated it i have just hit delete from windows but windows was showing an empty device so windows was just searching for the old ntfs partition and insteed
[01:34] <mzoer> When I boot Ubuntu, there are no lights on my Microsoft wireless aapter, how do I install it?
[01:34] <AETE_KRAOUD> it found nothing . So how to recover my ext3 deleted by the windows partition ?
[01:34] <mzz> heh
[01:34] <x_O> hey anyone try watching hulu.com videos on ubuntu lately?
[01:34] <x_O> abc has blocked linux
[01:34] <x_O> anyone know of a way to get it to work again?
[01:34] <_DEL> ari_stress, i guess we will find out.lol.
[01:34] <x_O> tried safari and firefox in wine with flash
[01:34] <jrib> x_O: ask abc?
[01:34] <x_O> no thats what im here
[01:34] <x_O> they wont do anything
[01:34] <_DEL> ari_stress, tnx
[01:34] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: I've done (roughly) that and gotten my data back by repartitioning (using fdisk) to the *exact* same layout
[01:35] <wolter> hey kinja-sheep, whats up? its just me, bothering you again
[01:35] <jrib> x_O: if they don't know they have customers who want linux support then they definitely won't do anything, yes
[01:35] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz :yes ok but the right /dev/sda5 is substituted by the home partition
[01:35] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: so if you simply create another partition in the empty space (and make very sure you do not format it) you may be able to mount it again just fine
[01:36] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: the partition numbers don't matter
[01:36] <jruss> Here is the message when it fails to boot:
[01:36] <jruss> Starting up...
[01:36] <jruss> [   2.464672] Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try Passing init= option to kernel
[01:36] <Jufis> is there good drivers for logitech vx nano mouse to make the extra buttons work?
[01:36] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: (although you may have to fix up fstab to put the right partition in the right place, of course)
[01:36] <x_O> yea one person is going to make a difference
[01:36] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: hmmm so you mean the command mkfs.ext3 ?
[01:36] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: no!
[01:36] <x_O> looking for a workaround not a suggestion to email abc lol
[01:36] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: do *not* run anything with "mkfs" in it. You do not want to make a filesystem, you already have one
[01:36] <alan> i had compiz 0.7.4, tried to get 0.7.8 - that is not in my package manager so i tried to download and compile source from compiz-fusion.org, but a script was missing from the archive
[01:37] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: you'd just run fdisk (or possibly something fancier, like gparted) to create a new partition, making sure it is *not* formatted (left uninitialized)
[01:37] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz : yes ok so what do i have to type to make it live again ?
[01:37] <alan> i tried following instructions on ubuntu.com, and it installed, but just freezes my computer immediately when i run
[01:37] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: I'm not sure if you can do this through gparted. If you can that'd probably be easiest.
[01:37] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz : you mean i have to count which is the empty space?
[01:37] <pregier> jruss:  do you have any lines from before your panic?
[01:37] <wolter> kinja-sheep, you not there?
[01:37] <jruss> there are no lines
[01:37] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: if there is no other free space and all space was used before using fdisk for this is probably pretty easy too (if you don't mind a text-based interface)
[01:37] <wolter> i need help with suspend, i can't wake it up after suspending.
[01:38] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: yes gparted is easy  but does not support ext3 only ext2
[01:38] <jruss> that is all the comes up after grub
[01:38] <lacita> need to know what wireless driver i m running? Any ideas?
[01:38] <j03lar50n> how come ifconfig doesn't tell me 'DNS Servers' and 'Search Domains'? i need to populate those fields to edit my Manual IPv4 settings of my Static Wired Connection
[01:38] <wolter> i pressed both keys and mouse buttons.
[01:38] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: it doesn't matter. You do *not* need this utility to do anything with filesystems. *just* with raw partitions.
[01:38] <Crazytom> I'm using intrepid and trying a get a wordpress install going but it says it's can't load the mysql extention.  I'm on my 5th hour of this and slightly frustrated.  can someone give me a hand?  Thanks in advance
[01:38] <mzoer> anyone here ever install any new hardware that wasn't plug and play?
[01:38] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: I'm not sure gparted lets you do this (create a partition without initializing (formatting) it)
[01:38] <jruss> I am fairly certain that some hardware is going bad I just don't know what hardware it could be or how to narrow it down
[01:38] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: me too :-)
[01:38] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: do you want to try doing this with fdisk?
[01:38] <pregier> jruss:  once you get it panicking, is it a sure thing?  if so, you can get hacky information about the root partition from grub
[01:38] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz : yes
[01:39] <jruss> pregier
[01:39] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz :can you give a small example ?
[01:39] <jruss> how do I get more info
[01:39] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: ok. Do you happen to have a hard disk around with at least as much free space as the entire affected drive's size?
[01:39] <mustangg> hey the chan.  I'm trying to find out from where does the installer (alt iso) get the hostname to populate the field for that part of the installation.
[01:39] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: yes an external hdd
[01:39] <jruss> it will always boot up if I let it sit off for a while
[01:39] <jrib> x_O: the workaround is to install windows in a vm or whatever.  I'm serious about letting hulu.com know about linux support
[01:40] <jruss> then after I use it for a while it will freeze, no keyboard, mouse, ssh
[01:40] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz : the wd 320 GB :-) in ntfs .
[01:40] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: you could copy the entire raw hd image to that. That way you can't lose any data if you make a mistake using fdisk. That'll take a while though.
[01:40] <jruss> and it will kernel panic at boot
[01:40] <pregier> jruss:  if you can get to a grub prompt, try looking around your your partition with something like "cat (hd0,X)/<TAB><TAB>" to see if it can actually list files on that partition
[01:40] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: thanks nice idea
[01:40] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz : i will keep the important data at least :-)
[01:40] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: (personally I wouldn't bother, but the data on this system isn't *that* valuable, so...)
[01:41] <pregier> jruss:  if you can't even list files then you've narrowed it down pretty close to your hard drive
[01:41] <jruss> pregier: I have it booted now because it has been off
[01:41] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: I meant boot from a livecd and dd the entire raw disk image over. That way you can re-attempt the recovery if it fails.
[01:41] <jruss> what should I look at at
[01:41] <pregier> jruss:  if it's working fine,  look closer at "smartctl -a /dev/sdX"
[01:41] <lacita> need to know what wireless driver i m running? Any ideas?
[01:41] <mzz> lacita: dmesg usually has that information
[01:41] <jruss> I have run e2fsck and badblocks on the boot and root partitions and everything passed
[01:41] <mzz> lacita: (that's a command to run, try "dmesg|less")
[01:41] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: dd is that a tool that i need ?
[01:42] <lacita> mzz: thanks
[01:42] <pregier> jruss:  that's your filesystem; mzz mentioned if it was the contents of the filesystem you'd get different errors
[01:42] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: i think tha writes raw data 0101010 on the drive?
[01:42] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: if you want to do this backup that's a tool you can use (although I've used simply "cat" or "cp" to do the same thing with no obvious ill effect)
[01:42] <rapidsecretions> My cd drive is no longer recognized at all and my block device scd0 is gone...How do I get it back?
[01:42] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: it can copy raw data to and from drives and files.
[01:42] <bartek_> i need help with remote control
[01:42] <pregier> jruss:  we're worried now about the hard drive itself cutting out intermittently, which wouldn't show in the filesystem contents
[01:42] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz:  aha it is a raw cat so :-)
[01:43] <Crazytom> does anyone know about mysql in ubuntu?
[01:43] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: thankz!!!!!!!!
[01:43] <lacita> mzz: omg so much information!!!
[01:43] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: thanks a lot for the infos
[01:43] <jruss> what do you mean the hard drive cutting out?
[01:43] <jruss> what other test can I run on it? It passed smartctl, fsck, and badblocks
[01:44] <pregier> jruss:  sometimes a hard drive will just stop responding; when this happens, there is no immediate corruption of the filesystem except for an unclean dismount
[01:44] <ubuntuphr3k> I've graced this channel with my presence.
[01:44] <georgy_28> Crazytom, : what is the problem ?
[01:44] <ubuntuphr3k> :)
[01:44] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: I'd need your "fdisk -l /dev/sd_whatever_your_drive_is" output to tell you what to type into fdisk to (hopefully) recover the partition
[01:44] <pregier> jruss:  smartctl shows a lot of information beyond simple pass/fail
[01:44] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: ok one minute
[01:44] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: do you want to paste it to paste bin ?
[01:44] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: yes please
[01:45] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: ok
[01:45] <Crazytom> georgy_28, I get this error
[01:45] <jruss> if I run smartctl -t what would be the pertenent info?
[01:45] <Crazytom> georgy_28, Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress.
[01:45] <pregier> jruss:  smartctl -t just initiates a test.  I said smartctl -a
[01:45] <bernz> Crazytom, mysql can be installed in ubuntu (command is probably 'sudo apt-get install mysql'), and then it can be used by web app frameworks and anything else you like, so yes :-)
[01:45] <Crazytom> georgy_28, and this one Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration
[01:45] <georgy_28> Crazytom, : try to install php5-mysql
[01:46] <pregier> jruss:  you want to look at the raw smart attributes table as well as any isolated failures logged
[01:46] <CNLiberal> i think i have the drive added back, but jfs_fsck is having issues.  The array isn't started, so I'm gonna reboot
[01:46] <Crazytom> georgy_28, i've reinstalled it twice
[01:46] <pregier> jruss:  neither of these has anything to do with selftests, i.e. smartctl -t
[01:46] <kindofabuzz> how would i change gnome-terminal to start up in ~/Desktop instead of just ~?
[01:46] <mzz> jruss: there's a passed/not passed summary near the top iirc, but looking at the individual values can be interesting too
[01:47] <mustangg> any possibilities for why a fresh install seems to know my previous hostname? I've thoroughly dd'd the drives which were involved.
[01:47] <georgy_28> Crazytom, : oh !!
[01:47] <jruss> what is the command to get the info I need for this drive?
[01:47] <alan> anyone can help with getting compiz to run without freezing??
[01:47] <mzz> kindofabuzz: mmm, if gnome-terminal sets TERM to something recognizable (not just "xterm") you could do that in your bashrc
[01:47] <computer_> anyone have experience with festival?
[01:47] <Crazytom> georgy_28, was that a good oh?
[01:47] <kindofabuzz> mzz, so check .bashrc?
[01:47] <pepperjack> alan: id check your driver. if using nvidia install the nvidia-glx driver
[01:48] <mzz> kindofabuzz: not so much "check" as "add some code" :)
[01:48] <_DEL> ari_stress, do you know how to reinstall?
[01:48] <atom^x> Crazytom, have you installed mysql? and is it running?
[01:48] <kindofabuzz> mzz, k thanks, i'll experiment =)
[01:48] <wolter> kinja-sheep!!!!!
[01:48] <mzz> kindofabuzz: (something like "[[ $TERM = gnome-terminal ]] && cd ~/Desktop")
[01:48] <alan> pepperjack: pretty sure i installed that first thing after ubuntu
[01:49] <pepperjack> alan: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:49] <georgy_28> Crazytom, :http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_WordPress maybe this will help you :
[01:49] <mzz> oh hey, I have gnome-terminal
[01:49] <Crazytom> atom^x, it's been installed but i'm not totally sure it's running
[01:49] <mzz> kindofabuzz: drat, my gnome-terminal sets TERM=xterm. Yours may differ though (this isn't ubuntu)
[01:49] <mzz> kindofabuzz: ah, try with COLORTERM instead of TERM
[01:49] <cxvxb> root, are you using irc as sudo?
[01:49] <UncleGemc> when I kill X it just restarts and prompts login how do I keep it dead?
[01:50] <alan> pepperjack: "mouse" "kbd" "nvidia" "nvidia"
[01:50] <kindofabuzz> k
[01:50] <mzz> UncleGemc: you need to stop gdm. That's probably close to "/etc/init.d/gdm stop", but not quite that
[01:50] <Kryzler> ubuntu uses bash by default yeah?
[01:50]  * mzz waits for someone to correct him
[01:50] <mzz> Kryzler: not for /bin/sh
[01:50] <Pici> mzz: Thats actually correct.
[01:50] <UncleGemc> ok, ty I will lok at it
[01:50] <UncleGemc> look*
[01:50] <mzz> yay, lucky guess
[01:50] <bernz> mzz, what about switching to a text session (ctrl-alt-f1)
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Kryzler,  bash is the default  USER shell.. sh (dash) is the default system shell
[01:51] <mzz> Kryzler: is the default login shell though iirc
[01:51] <atom^x> Crazytom, search for lamp install guide...
[01:51] <bernz> mzz, (assuming the point is to get to a non-X shell of some sort)
[01:51] <Kryzler> cool
[01:51] <pepperjack> alan: gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  see if you see any errors around the time it freezes etc not sure
[01:51] <mzz> bernz: oh, good point.
[01:51] <Crazytom> this one? htps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:51] <cxvxb> Listen up: If you're using the mplayer that Ubuntu comes with, rather than compiling the latest version of mplayer, you are missing out on 3 years of development. the mplayer that comes with ubuntu is 3 YEARS old. There's a ton of more codecs and formats that are supported.
[01:51] <mzz> UncleGemc: if what you're actually trying to do is get a non-X shell just do what bernz said
[01:51] <Droopsta915> Whats a good application to extract .rar files?
[01:51] <atom^x> Crazytom, ubutto has a link I am sure.
[01:51] <mzz> UncleGemc: and it's probably cleaner to run the /etc/init.d/gdm stop from there than to do it from inside a running X session.
[01:52] <bernz> mzz, but your suggestion is more "effective"
[01:52] <Gnea> !sudo
[01:52] <atom^x> !lamp
[01:52] <mzz> bernz: well, it depends on what he's actually trying to do (get to a non-X terminal or stop X)
[01:52] <UncleGemc> well, you see im on windows right now with xming and I don't really need x on the linux box running right?
[01:53] <bernz> UncleGemc, right, X is only for humans (to see what's going on)
[01:53] <kindofabuzz> mzz, it was easier than i thought, just ad cd /home/<user>/Desktop to the end of .bashrc
[01:53] <mzz> UncleGemc: probably not. May want to stop it from restarting when the system reboots if this system is (normally) only used remotely.
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> UncleGemc,   You dont need  x Running.. but you may want to keep X and the apps installed..
[01:53] <mzz> kindofabuzz: that'll always do it, not just for gnome-terminal.
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> I use xming all the time. :) its handy
[01:53] <alan> pepperjack: its been a few days since i last attempted to run compiz - i guess ill need to run it again, let it freeze, then check the .log?
[01:53] <UncleGemc> I want to keep it installed I just dont need it ran locally
[01:53] <Crazytom> atom^x, that's what I was following
[01:53] <bernz> kindofabuzz, there's also a ".profile" (i think a very ancient tradition, but i could be wrong about that), which most shells respect
[01:53] <pepperjack> alan: maybe id cp the log after that and check ubuntu forums for similar problems.
[01:54] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: here you are http://pastebin.com/m6e15c80d
[01:54] <_DEL> does anyone know how to reinstall gnome?
[01:54] <pregier> ... so i've been having a heck of a time switching inputs on my hauppauge pvr-250 under intrepid; v4l2-ctl is supposed to do this now instead of ivtvctl, but no luck here.  Has anyone else seen this?
[01:54] <bernz> (and into which you could put "last minute hacks" for login)
[01:54] <redvamp128> _DEL:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <AETE_KRAOUD> _DEL, : yes install kde and then install gnome again :-)
[01:54] <jruss> I don't recall seeing any errors reported when I ran the smartctl test
[01:54] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: oh, great, you actually know the old layout
[01:54] <jruss> but now the system has hung
[01:54] <mustangg> is there any good docs/faq on how to do a fresh install with raid0 (for LVM), during setup but before selecting to use LVM reconfigures things on its own..?
[01:54] <jruss> and I won't be able to run it again
[01:54] <AETE_KRAOUD> _DEL, : or do it from the coomand line :-)
[01:55] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz : ofcourse :-)
[01:55] <redvamp128> AETE_KRAOUD:  why does he have to install KDE-- why not just XFCE-- Xubuntu
[01:55] <alan> pepperjack: thanks, i had no idea where to look, this is a starting point at least
[01:55] <timbojimbo> yo.. any one with amarok?
[01:55] <redvamp128> AETE_KRAOUD:  Much smaller footprint than KDE
[01:55] <mzz> mustangg: this is not the best solution, but what you could do is just use any livecd to set up lvm/raid/etc the way you like it, then run the installer
[01:55] <AETE_KRAOUD> redvamp128,  : no KDE is actually better and faster
[01:55] <Dante123> hi all, installed gnomeppp and what I thought was the latest Conexant driver (deb file) on friends Dell Inspiron 1501 for modem (version has same kernel number as the Ubuntu 8.10 he is running).  However, there is no modem detected on the system.  Is there some command I have to run or something to get the modem detected?  Modprobe? or some config command?
[01:55] <AETE_KRAOUD> redspike,  : KDE rocks
[01:55] <carpii> i have a web server and want to mount my new 2nd drive to hold two different directories. Can I do this via mount, or should I just use symlinks from drive 1 to drive 2?
[01:55] <mzz> mustangg: iirc it'll let you use the lvm lvs that already exist
[01:56] <_DEL> thanks AETE_KRAOUD, redvamp128
[01:56] <redvamp128> AETE_KRAOUD:  actually My KDE takes about 1min 42 seconds to load and takes up more room on the drive than my XFCE (which takes 46 seconds to load)
[01:56] <_DEL> its installing from command
[01:56] <timbojimbo> AETE_KRAOUD: I have heard alot about KDE but as of now i still like gnome better man
[01:56] <kindofabuzz> woohoo Lenny this weekend! =)
[01:56] <AETE_KRAOUD> redvamp128, : i use KDE in my laptop
[01:56] <redvamp128> AETE_KRAOUD:  my gnome actually takes 52 seconds to load
[01:56] <AETE_KRAOUD> redvamp128,  : and it is faster than ecerything !!!!!!!1
[01:57] <timbojimbo> AETE_KRAOUD:  i have also used kde, don't really like it
[01:57] <mustangg> mzz: been trying that but am having difficulty making things stick. Dunno if it's fakeraid related or not at this poiint but...
[01:57] <redvamp128> AETE_KRAOUD:  though 36 seconds to load my LXDE
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Tiny Core Linux Takes about 15 seconds to BOOT to X :) so phhht. :P
[01:57] <AETE_KRAOUD> redvamp128, : The nautilus sucks
[01:57] <timbojimbo> agreed
[01:57] <Droopsta915> !.rar
[01:57] <georgy_28> though 22 second to load E17
[01:57] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: ok, so there's just a gap at the start of the extended partition. If you tell fdisk to create a new logical partition and use all available space for it you should end up with the same layout (just possibly with the numbers switched). You can print and compare before writing, so this is quite safe.
[01:57] <AETE_KRAOUD> redvamp128, : nautilus makes 1 minute to show me the folder in  /usr/bin !!!!! what do you say abou that?
[01:57] <Mal3ko> guys..how do i check what are services running?
[01:57] <j03lar50n> how do i determine what to put in for my 'network' value when editing my /etc/network/interfaces file - trying to setup a static connection to a server
[01:57] <Mal3ko> cmd line
[01:57] <usser> pfft my gentoo takes 15 sec
[01:57] <atom^x> Crazytom, what step were you at?
[01:58] <timbojimbo> yo.. any one with amarok?
[01:58] <bernz> carpii, you should mount the second drive onto your main file system
[01:58] <mzz> mustangg: I did a hardy install into a pv I set aside from a different distro earlier iirc and that worked just fine. No raid involved though.
[01:58] <CNLiberal> if anyone is curious...i fixed my array issue...
[01:58] <usser> j03lar50n, netmask you mean?
[01:58] <CNLiberal> i've said it once, i've said it a 100 times...
[01:58] <redvamp128> AETE_KRAOUD:  though what beats that is Puppy Linux 23 seconds (PIII 933mhz with 256mb of memory and a Geforce4 MX4000)
[01:58] <CNLiberal> mdadm is the bee's knees
[01:58] <CNLiberal> that cat's meow
[01:58] <carpii> bernz, its difficult because i want the new drive to hold /var/log but also to hold /var/html/userimages
[01:58] <Dante123> hi all, installed gnomeppp and what I thought was the latest Conexant driver (deb file) on friends Dell Inspiron 1501 for modem (version has same kernel number as the Ubuntu 8.10 he is running).  However, there is no modem detected on the system.  Is there some command I have to run or something to get the modem detected?  Modprobe? or some config command?
[01:58] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz:ok nice but how i create a partition from scratch for example /dev/sda6 or sda7?
[01:58] <CNLiberal> the /dev/sde1 disk was removed from the array already
[01:58] <carpii> bernz, and I dont really want to mount the whole of /var
[01:58] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: I can walk you through fdisk if you're having trouble, but it's pretty straightforward if you're comfortable with commandline apps in general.
[01:59] <j03lar50n> no, usser in my .../interfaces file there's a network value that i need to fill
[01:59] <UncleGemc> ok i still dont know how to kill X though
[01:59] <CNLiberal> i just started the array in degraded mode
[01:59] <CNLiberal> ran jfs_fsck on it
[01:59] <CNLiberal> mounted it
[01:59] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: ok i just need an example so :-)
[01:59] <CNLiberal> and then readded the failed drive
[01:59] <CNLiberal> and it started an auto-repair
[01:59] <UncleGemc> it's at the login screen but how do I kill it and keep it killed?
[01:59] <j03lar50n> maybe i don't need it usser
[01:59] <_DEL> is there a way for me to set a remote login for this computer to do work from another location? its not a server edition
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> UncleGemc,  stop the GDM or KDM service
[01:59] <pepperjack> UncleGemc: alt-crtl-f2 then login then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:00] <usser> j03lar50n, thats all you need for most setups http://pastebin.com/m14063e1c
[02:00] <UncleGemc> I tried
[02:00] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: anyway i will try it out Thanks again
[02:00] <UncleGemc> gdm stop didnt work :(
[02:00] <bernz> carpii, okay, in that case, it's a hybrid: mount the drive in a general way, then use symlinks to point to subdirs on the mounted volume
[02:00] <lacita> mzz: I found this:
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> UncleGemc,  then you did it wrong
[02:00] <lacita> [   19.008347] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[02:00] <lacita> [   19.008418] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 312581808 512-byte hardware sectors (160042 MB)
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:00] <lacita> [   19.008431] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[02:00] <lacita> [   19.008434] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[02:00] <bernz> carpii, hopefully that makes sense :-
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> will stop it for the current session. Not permently
[02:00] <lacita> [   19.008452] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[02:00] <j03lar50n> usser, thank you soo much - i've been trying to 2days on here to get some attention. i really appreciate it
[02:00] <lacita> [   19.008500] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 312581808 512-byte hardware sectors (160042 MB)
[02:00] <wikkedfin> Does the wifi under ubuntu 8.10 only connect to b and not g or n?
[02:00] <AETE_KRAOUD> UncleGemc, : try         /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:00] <UncleGemc> it just says that it is already running
[02:00] <usser> j03lar50n, no problem
[02:00] <lacita> [   19.008511] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[02:00] <AETE_KRAOUD> UncleGemc, : and then          /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:00] <lacita> [   19.008513] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[02:01] <carpii> ok bernz, thanks. will there be much of a performance penalty for this? particular for httpd logs where the file is constantly being written?
[02:01] <lacita> [   19.008529] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[02:01] <j03lar50n> usser, may i pm for 1 or 2 follow ups?
[02:01] <lacita> [   19.008533]  sda:<4>Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[02:01] <lacita> [   19.424348]  sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4
[02:01] <usser> j03lar50n, that was for wired network though, wireless may need more options
[02:01] <lacita> [   19.437081] ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]  GUID[00023f79af4001af]
[02:01] <lacita> [   19.451551] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[02:01] <lacita> [   19.456118] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[02:01] <lacita> [   19.456164] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5
[02:01] <lacita> [   19.459364] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[02:01] <lacita> sorry...
[02:01] <usser> j03lar50n, sure
[02:01] <lacita> mzz: I meant I found this: iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.0
[02:01] <carpii> lacita, can you stop pasting please
[02:01] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: hang on, it won't let me create a new partition without free space, working around that...
[02:01] <redvamp128> !pastebin | lacita:
[02:01] <AETE_KRAOUD> wikkedfin, : it conncects depend on the card!!!
[02:01] <bernz> UncleGemc, try 'which gdm', and it'll tell you where the gdm program lives (or if it's missing!)
[02:02] <wikkedfin> well my card is B/G/N
[02:02] <UncleGemc> its in there
[02:02] <Imaginativeone> anyone familiar with the roku device?
[02:02] <bernz> UncleGemc, (it's not guaranteed to work, but it can help you see if it's easily reachable)
[02:02] <lacita> mzcarpiiz, redvamp128: that was an accident. I meant to paste one line. Sorry for the error.
[02:02] <UncleGemc> now I have a black screen on my linux box
[02:02] <wikkedfin> and all the AP's are B or G but they connect B
[02:02] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz :please watch out your partitions i just needed a trivial example
[02:02] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: sudo fdisk /dev/sd_your_drive, "n", "l", accept the defaults for first and last cylinder, "p", compare to your saved layout. The start and end offsets should match, although the order probably won't.
[02:02] <wikkedfin> I have an Ath9k
[02:02] <UncleGemc> but no X or login prompt
[02:02] <redvamp128> lacita:  I was just informing you of that service- instead of us getting like 5 lines of text all at once.
[02:02] <bernz> carpii, it's minimal... parsing through mount points is a pretty low-level thing and thus optimized as necessary (at least reasonably so)
[02:02] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: I just created a file full of zeroes and ran fdisk on that [had to tell it the numbers of cylinders for that "drive" but apart from that it accepted it :) ]
[02:03] <carpii> ok thanks bernz
[02:03] <lacita> mzz: I was hoping for something like "madwifi-ng" or "R8187", etc.
[02:03] <mzz> lacita: iwl3945 it is then
[02:03] <bernz> carpii, no worries, good luck
[02:03] <mzz> lacita: (can probably confirm that by running "lsmod" and checking if the module is used)
[02:03] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: hehe Nice :-)
[02:03] <UncleGemc> from tty2 I ran gdm stop and it apparently did something but I still have login at tty7
[02:03] <UncleGemc> x # tty7
[02:03] <lacita> redvamp128: I know about pastebin, I just dumped the wrong copy here
[02:04] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: so fdisc doesn't need me to provide any info except the numbers of cylinders ?
[02:04] <mzz> UncleGemc: log out there, you probably won't get the login screen back
[02:04] <redvamp128> _DEL:  any luck getting gnome back?
[02:04] <mustangg_> mzz: I keep thinking that fakeraid left garbage on my drives because a fresh install finds the previous hostname; but-
[02:04] <UncleGemc> ok
[02:04] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: you can just accept the defaults (there should only be one "hole", it'll use all of it by default)
[02:05] <lacita> mzz: looks right: iwlwifi_mac80211      218980  1 iwl3945
[02:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz :sounds pretty dtraight forwarding OK :-)
[02:05] <lacita> mzz: but I also see this: iwl3945                89844  0
[02:05] <mzz> lacita: that's actually iwl3945 using a more basic module, but that still confirms iwl3945 is loaded :)
[02:05] <UncleGemc> mzz: nope it just started back up
[02:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz : i am going to try it now
[02:05] <mzz> lacita: I don't know how normal the "0" there is (pretty normal if the interface is currently disabled)
[02:06] <mzz> UncleGemc: I don't know what's up with that, sorry
[02:06] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz :sorry about my bad english and the mistakes :-) i do my best
[02:06] <lacita> mzz: enabled, but not active at the moment
[02:06] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: don't worry about it, I've seen *much* worse
[02:06] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: besides english is not my first language :-)
[02:06] <UncleGemc> no biggy
[02:06] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz : i understand :-)
[02:06] <Crayboff> alright, question. what is the difference between the different kernels when starting up ubuntu? like "kernel 2.6.27-11-generic" and "kernel 2.6.27-9-generic"?
[02:06] <mzz> Crayboff: the lower ones are older
[02:07] <mzz> Crayboff: (for some reason old kernels don't seem to be uninstalled by default when you get upgrades)
[02:07]  * mzz isn't sure what the best way to do some spring cleaning in that area is
[02:07] <UncleGemc> mzz: ill figure it out.
[02:07] <usser> Crayboff, the one with higher minor version is more recent, has security updates, patches etc
[02:07] <kindofabuzz> I installed python 3 from source, but i've decided to start with 2.5. Now when I start idle it loads using 3 instead of 2.5, how can i fix that? yes i know there is an idle 2.5 in the repos but i want the regular idle to point to 2.5
[02:07] <usser> Crayboff, sorry
[02:07] <pluma>  GParted is set to round to cylinders by default. Is this really necessary for Vista + Ubuntu 8.10? The manual only says this is necessary for "old OSes"
[02:07] <Royall> My built-in microphone's volume control (in Volume Control, HDA Intel Also mixer) always changed whenever I close the window. How can I stop it from automatically changing?
[02:07] <usser> mzz, the one with higher minor version is more recent, has security updates, patches etc
[02:07] <bullgard4> What is an 'Internet file' as used in 'man lsof'?
[02:07] <mzz> kindofabuzz: I'd expect idle to be a symlink to the actual idle you want to use
[02:07] <Royall> er, Alsa mixer*
[02:08] <usser> mzz, old kernels are not uninstalled because users might want to revert back if the updates dont work
[02:08] <kindofabuzz> mzz, yeah that's what i'm thinking to. any clues?
[02:08] <rapidsecretions> My cd drive is no longer recognized at all and my block device scd0 is gone...How do I get it back?
[02:08] <mzz> usser: that's a good point, but a way to keep only the most recent 3 or so kernels might be nice
[02:08] <skyde> hello i need help installing ubuntu on a server wich dont have any cd-rom drive
[02:08] <Royall> rapidsecretions: look in the BIOS and see if the module bay is disabled, that's what happened to me
[02:08] <mzz> usser: (I know you can just uninstall the old ones manually, but if you don't do that you end up with dozens of kernels eventually, which is a bit inconvenient if /boot/ is on a separate partition)
[02:08] <pepperjack> skyde: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  for options
[02:08] <usser> mzz, yes i agree, i think newer versions of ubuntu will do just that, keeping the last recent working kernel when you upgrade
[02:09] <Crayboff> alright well the -11-generic is the default. whenever I turn on the computer, it says that there is a softreset failure and something about not being able to "enumerate" the USB or something like that. also when I turn off the computer, it says things like "HALT NOW" or something like that
[02:09] <bullgard4> rapidsecretions: 'is gone' is no exact description.
[02:09] <mzz> usser: relevant to me because my root partition is on lvm and /boot/ is a bit small in hindsight
[02:09] <Crayboff> why is that and how do i fix it?
[02:09] <alchemist1> I just installed Globalmenu and when I try to put it on the panel it tells me to enable the plugin in properties under the right click menu.  The panel properties are no help and the globalmenu properties is just a blank window.  This makes no sense to me.
[02:10] <mzz> Crayboff: so it does still boot? If yes can you pastebin the output of the command "dmesg"?
[02:10] <Royall> Crayboff: heyyyy
[02:10] <Crayboff> mzz, it does and I will in a sec
[02:10] <muzikjock58_> this might be stupid question. but what does "-H" flag tell sudo to do in ubuntu?
[02:10] <mzz> also, anyone here who has had nautilus sometimes stop drawing desktop icons?
[02:11] <koshari> how can i mount a drive by label?
[02:11] <mzz> muzikjock58_: set $HOME to /root, I think
[02:11] <letalis> muzikjock58: try man sudo at the cli
[02:11] <mzz> muzikjock58_: (or rather the manpage thinks :P)
[02:11] <badfish69> !make
[02:11]  * cosmo_ gives badfish69 :badfish69!n=logan@12-201-8-6.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #ubuntu :+!make,  and  - what can you make of them?
[02:11] <lacita> mzz: Oh, wait, an there's this too: cfg80211               15112  1 iwlwifi_mac80211
[02:11] <lacita> Is this normal?
[02:12] <Droopsta915> I installed unrar-free, but it won't extract my .rar file?
[02:12] <mzz> lacita: almost certainly yes
[02:12] <Crayboff> mzz, umm it is so long that the terminal's memory doesn't retain all of the data, in that i can't scroll up all the way
[02:12] <jrib> Droopsta915: install unrar
[02:12] <mzz> lacita: (some components are shared by a couple of network drivers, this is one of them)
[02:12] <jrib> !unrar > Droopsta915
[02:12] <muzikjock58_> thank you . i'll check it out.
[02:12] <kindofabuzz> mzz, figured it out, just edit /usr/local/bin/idle to point to /usr/bin/python2.5
[02:12] <muzikjock58_> im having problems with seamonkey
[02:12] <mzz> Crayboff: "dmesg > ~/dmesg" and find the file in your homedir, or "dmesg|pastebinit" (you will probably have to install pastebinit)
[02:13] <lacita> mzz: could I replace my wireless driver with madwifi?
[02:13] <mzz> kindofabuzz: or toast that symlink (you probably have a second one in /usr/bin)
[02:13] <mzz> lacita: I have no idea, sorry
[02:13] <Droopsta915> jrib: Thanks, it worked
[02:13] <mzz> lacita: (I don't really have a laptop, so I know very little about wireless)
[02:13] <lacita> mzz, thanks anyway
[02:13] <Royall> I've used "alsactl store" to save the levels, but all my mics (Mux, Capture, Digital) mute when I close the Alsa mixer window. Is there any way to stop this?
[02:13] <soreau> lacita: Which card?
[02:13] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: ok i typed n to the interactive fdisc
[02:13] <muzikjock58_> it crashes flash content in the browser. but works when i run from command line in root. when i ran seamonkey as sudo seamonkey, it said that it was probably better to run "sudo -H seamonkey" . i didnt know what the did.
[02:14] <underworld> hellooooo
[02:14] <underworld> I'mnew in this
[02:14] <mzz> muzikjock58_: running seamonkey as root is not sane. Stop doing it :P
[02:14] <lacita> underworld: ask a question
[02:14] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: i chosed the inbetween values of cylindres (guided)
[02:14] <mzz> muzikjock58_: try running it as yourself but using a fresh profile ("seamonkey -P -no-remote" should give you the profile manager)?
[02:14] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz :shall i type w to write the partition ?
[02:14] <redvamp128> muzikjock58_:  which version of sea monkey and what version of Flash? (I think if it works like mozilla -- about:(no space)plugins
[02:15] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: not yet. Hit "p" and confirm the numbers match what you have logged.
[02:15] <bullgard4> muzikjock58_: 'man sudo' tells me that the switch -H sets the environment variable to the homedir of the target user.
[02:15] <redvamp128> muzikjock58_: about:plugins
[02:15] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: ok
[02:15] <bullgard4> muzikjock58_: 'man sudo' tells me that the switch -H sets the environment variable HOME to the homedir of the target user.
[02:15] <Crayboff> mzz: http://pastebin.com/f1f49bcb6
[02:15] <mzz> muzikjock58_: likely cause is something specific to your profile, like an extension, being involved
[02:16] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz: they match :-)
[02:16] <redvamp128> muzikjock58_:  though you could try the normal run of the program from command line with the -profilemanger
[02:16] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: then you can probably write. I'd e2fsck the new partition to confirm things are sane though.
[02:16] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: (and remember this may still have the order of the partitions changed)
[02:16] <JesperHansen> mzz: didn't see you hanging out here
[02:16] <mzz> AETE_KRAOUD: (well, you can see in the printout)
[02:16] <_DEL> redvamp128, It just finished installing
[02:17] <AETE_KRAOUD> mzz:  hmmm NICE i will see anyway thanks again :-)
[02:17] <mzz> JesperHansen: heh, I usually don't, it's not like I use ubuntu. My mother has an ubuntu install, I was hoping someone could help out with that. So far no luck with that.
[02:17] <linxuz3r> hi
[02:17] <redvamp128> _DEL:  you could try typing gnome-session and it should take you there
[02:17] <linxuz3r> hi
[02:17] <soreau> mzz: lol, what's the problem?
[02:17] <linxuz3r> how do i keep kde from not messing up my gnome settings ?
[02:17] <JesperHansen> mzz: whats the fuss about?
[02:18] <mzz> soreau: nautilus sometimes decides not to draw desktop icons (or the desktop context menu). It usually works fine when I'm in the vicinity, making this a bit hard to debug.
[02:18] <soreau> mzz: Intermittent and you don't know the specifics?
[02:18] <ashlessburn> mzz update the apt first make sure u are running the most recent version
[02:19] <Crayboff> mzz: pastebin of dmesg - http://pastebin.com/f1f49bcb6
[02:19] <soreau> mzz: Do you know if she's messing with gconf or if nautilus might be crashing?
[02:19] <soreau> mzz: (I suspect she is a humble user)
[02:19] <JesperHansen> mzz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=653305 is this you?
[02:19] <mzz> soreau: I know nautilus is running just fine (I can open normal folder windows just fine), there's nothing alarming in ~/.xsession-errors, and toggling the pref for nautilus drawing the background off and back on fixed it once.
[02:19] <_DEL> redvamp128, im waiting for virtual XP to finish updating then i am going to
[02:20] <mzz> ashlessburn: this is an up-to-date hardy install. Guess I could upgrade her to intrepid, but I don't want to change the system too much if I can help it
[02:20] <wolter> hi
[02:20] <mzz> (the "she is a humble user" guess is correct)
[02:20] <wolter> i need to be able to suspend my computer and wake it up!!
[02:20] <wolter> why is this not fixed yet??
[02:20] <JesperHansen> mzz: question to that: Is right click possible on the desktop?
[02:20] <mzz> soreau: she wouldn't touch gconf directly. I didn't see anything obviously fatal in ~/.xsession-errors. I have that file stored somewhere, lemme pastebin it
[02:20] <mzz> JesperHansen: nope, that context menu is gone too
[02:20] <mzz> JesperHansen: (at least it was the one time this happened while I was around...)
[02:21] <ashlessburn> ahh yes u could always change the repo and use debian servers but i guess there is no gaurntee
[02:21] <MuffloN^> Q: I have a Creative USB Headset, how do I get it working? (Fatality HS-1000)
[02:21] <plazia> anyone had problems with frostwire I've installed it from an intrepid ibex deb package and I've installed the sun-java6-jre but for some reason I keep getting an error about not having a valid jre despite there being one installed.
[02:21] <soreau> mzz: You'd probably have to spend some quality time with it yourself to debug it.. I know when I mess with nautilus it's not a hard and fast rule that toggling the show_desktop bool in gconf immediately will always work, sometimes nautilus needs to be restarted and/or tinkered with in my experience
[02:21] <jrib> !multijava | plazia
[02:21] <linxuz3r> how do i keep kde from not messing up my gnome settings ??????
[02:21] <ashlessburn> plazia 64 bit or 32?
[02:21] <plazia> 32bit
[02:21] <ashlessburn> k
[02:21] <ashlessburn> what ubottu said then
[02:21] <soreau> linxuz3r: Don't use kde?
[02:22] <soreau> linxuz3r: Which setting specifically
[02:22] <linxuz3r> soreau: why?
[02:22] <mzz> soreau: the one time it happened here some poking made the problem go away and not reappear until I'd left the vicinity of the system. It's a bit of a pain.
[02:22] <linxuz3r> soreau: nautilus
[02:22] <zcat[1]> !usplash
[02:22] <josh1> does any one know any better task bar mac look alike, other than, AWN or Cario?
[02:22] <plazia> thanks ashlessburn and ubottu. I'm assuming ubottu is 3-laws safe?
[02:22] <ashlessburn> lol
[02:22] <MuffloN^> Q: I have a Creative USB Headset, how do I get it working? (Fatality HS-1000)
[02:22] <shadowwulf> question for 64bit 8.10 ubuntu ... i enabled the desktop cube and the roptate cube ... hardware drivers are running and i still get no cube .. any idea ?
[02:22] <bullgard4> What is an 'Internet file' as used in 'man lsof'?
[02:22] <mzz> plazia: it can probably be told to harm people :P
[02:23] <linxuz3r> when is the next release of ubuntu?
[02:23] <wikkedfin> !help
[02:23] <pod773> hello
[02:23] <pepperjack> linxuz3r: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:23] <Pici> linxuz3r: April 2009
[02:23] <soreau> mzz: That sounds like too much fun.. :p
[02:23] <JesperHansen> mzz: this seems related bug wise. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/128077 It says "Fix released", but no idea what fix
[02:23] <linxuz3r> im still 8.04 should i upgrade to 8.10?
[02:23] <Pici> !jaunty | linxuz3r
[02:23] <_DEL> !test
[02:23] <ashlessburn> shadowwulf: turn off ur 3d desktop and try again
[02:23] <zcat[1]> problem; I installed splashy.. can't do anything with it so uninstalled it again and reinstalled usplash. Now I get no splash screen. How do I fix up usplash to I can have a splash screen again?
[02:23] <pod773> im using 8.10 right now
[02:23] <plazia> mzz, but that would override rule 1 :)
[02:23] <pepperjack> linxuz3r: depends. i had no end of trouble with the legacy nvidia drivers so if you have an old nv card maybe not.
[02:23] <bullgard4> linxuz3r: No.
[02:23] <shadowwulf> ashlessburn:  so turn it off and try enabling it >?
[02:24] <mzz> JesperHansen: I'm pretty sure that bug report is too old (this is an up-to-date heron install)
[02:24] <zcat[1]> or at least suggestions of where to start looking for the problem. no clues in dmesg that I can see
[02:24] <ashlessburn> no ur driver supported 3d desktop are u using compiz or beryl
[02:24] <mzz> plazia: exactly, so I think it's not three-laws safe
[02:24] <soreau> mzz: Why not dist-upgrade for kicks?
[02:24]  * plazia backs away slowly :)
[02:24] <shadowwulf> ashlessburn:  compiz
[02:25] <carpii> fdisk -l is no longer listing my /dev/hdb, and attempting to mount /dev/hdb1 is resulting in "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb"  what gives?
[02:25] <mzz> soreau: I'd prefer to keep her on lts versions, change is bad in this case
[02:25] <Crayboff> anyone know why the window blinks when I play a graphic intensive game Chromium B.S.U.? this happens to some games but not others
[02:25] <soreau> shadowwulf: Ask in #compiz-fusion
[02:25] <UncleGemc> mzz: telinit 3 instead of 5 killed it ok
[02:25] <mzz> Crayboff: does it still happen with desktop effects off?
[02:25] <JesperHansen> mzz: even with proposed updates?
[02:25]  * Symmetria celebrates as his new insanely sized server comes online
[02:25] <_DEL> is there a way for me to set a remote login for this computer to do work from another location? its not a server edition
[02:26] <mzz> JesperHansen: I don't follow (remember I'm not usually an ubuntu user...)
[02:26]  * Symmetria notes that intrepid + HP servers are not a good combination ;p
[02:26] <diginux> _DEL: yes, with ssh
[02:26] <Titan8990> carpii, what kind of drive is it?
 ok i had this issue in 64bit when u enable your cube its "fights" for the 3d im guessing nvidia so enable cube and cube roatating u might have to check to make sure your hot keys for rotating work...and u need 2 add 4 desktops not 2
[02:26] <soreau> mzz: I'll take your word for it.. maybe write a script to toggle show_desktop and restart nautilus and put a shortcut to it in the menu
[02:26] <_DEL> im not to familiar with ssh
[02:26] <mzz> soreau: I've been considering that :)
[02:26] <plazia> Sorry jrib I forgot to thank you! that worked perfectly
[02:26] <diginux> _DEL: do you want a graphical remote interface, or simply a terminal?
[02:26] <sweetgum> whats the command to create a .tar.gz file with a list of files (literally 4) ?
[02:26] <carpii> Titan, im not sure. My web hosting provider just added it, but they mounted it as ext3 in /home2 which was working ok
[02:27] <carpii> I just changed their entry in /etc/fstab and did "mount -a" and now its all gone pear shaped
[02:27] <soreau> mzz: I end up hacking the crap out of ubuntu every time I install it seems ;)
[02:27] <JesperHansen> mzz: in synaptic => repositories is "proposed updates" and such
[02:27] <_DEL> preferably graphical, so i can see what its doing, but i can do a terminal
[02:27] <josh1> any one know a better program other than  AWN and Caio to get mac look alike task bar? i have cairo buty its pretty shitty always lagging
[02:27] <mzz> sweetgum: I'd stuff the files in a directory and run "tar zcf blah.tar.gz thedirectory"
[02:27] <dayo> sweetgum: tar cvzf filename.tar.gz filedir_to_be_tarred
[02:27] <shadowwulf> ashlessburn:  i have 4 desktops ... and the hot keys should be working
[02:27] <dayo> lol
[02:27] <mzz> JesperHansen: those are off iirc
[02:27]  * mzz wanders off to find the usb stick that .xsession-errors was on
[02:28] <diginux> _DEL: id look at nxserver and nxclient then
[02:28] <dayo> what's iirc
[02:28] <Titan8990> carpii, is it a network location?
[02:28] <syockit> dayo: If I remember correctly,
[02:28] <_DEL> aight, tnx diginux
[02:28] <Kryzler> if i remember correctly]
[02:28] <carpii> no Titan, its a physical local drive
[02:28] <JesperHansen> mzz: there might be a fix in proposed (and maybe not)
[02:28] <sweetgum> thank you guys
[02:28] <wolter> who has a dell xps 1530 ?
[02:28] <syockit> dayo: afaik: as far as I know
[02:28] <arghh2d2> isn't wbar kinda like osx josh1 ?  i've only used a mac maybe twice so i dont know
[02:28] <carpii> i do wolter
[02:28] <mzz> JesperHansen: I'll have a look (I should be able to find the ChangeLog for whatever's in proposed)
[02:29] <wolter> carpii, thanks god. Are you having problems with suspend?
[02:29] <dayo> syockit: aaaah. thank u. i kept thinking it was something like irssi lol
[02:29] <carpii> hm, well i dont use ubuntu on it anymore :(
[02:29] <mzz> dayo: irssi, screen and ssh make a great team :)
[02:29] <mzz> err,
[02:29] <Titan8990> carpii, pastebin your fstab
[02:29] <carpii> but suspend problems are usually to do with a missing dell media partition i think
[02:29] <diginux> mzz: agreed
[02:29] <soreau> mzz: They do if you can stand irssi :p
[02:29] <dayo> mzz: yes they do! :-)
[02:29] <Mal3ko> anyonw familiar with UFW? how do i specify port range?
[02:29]  * Kryzler agrees with mmz
[02:29] <mzz> dayo: sorry, got you mixed up with someone else. That must've sounded pretty random
[02:30] <diginux> mzz: add in bitlbee and you are good to go
[02:30] <josh1> argh2d2 what is wdar?
[02:30] <dayo> mzz: i did, but i agree  lol
[02:30] <ashlessburn> one sec shadow
[02:30] <dayo> see u guys, later :-)
[02:30] <mzz> JesperHansen: http://rafb.net/p/VAwHjn87.html is her .xsession-errors, fwiw
[02:30] <carpii> Titan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117099/
[02:30] <arghh2d2> josh1: sorry, wbar, it's some kind of application launcher
[02:30] <wolter> oh carpii ... well, I am using ubuntu..
[02:30] <arghh2d2> wbar, with a B
[02:30] <Kryzler> bye dayo
[02:30] <wolter> linux should fix this immediately
[02:30] <carpii> Titan, i changed it back to /home2, so afaik its the same as my webhost left it when it was mounted successfully
[02:31] <wolter> carpii, when you did use ubuntu, were you able to suspend/sleep?
[02:31] <carpii> wolter, im not sure its a linux problem specifically
[02:31] <josh1> im a noob so i dont know what that is:P how would i get it? im looking for a new taskbar is all, i didnt like the one ubuntu came with
[02:31] <_DEL> diginux, will that allow me to do it from a linux os? google is bringing up windows for it
[02:31] <mzz> JesperHansen: that "unable to add monitor" thing is suspicious, but that was also added after I restarted nautilus (and it was drawing icons by then)
[02:31] <carpii> wolter, yes, but i made sure i didnt nuke the dell partition
[02:31] <diginux> _DEL: its for windows and linux
[02:31] <wolter> carpii, hm...
[02:31] <soreau> josh1: Like a dock?
[02:31] <wolter> i did nuked it haha
[02:31] <diginux> _DEL: google setting up nxserver in ubuntu
[02:31] <josh1> yes
[02:31] <wolter> but that shouldn't affect ubuntu at all.
[02:31] <josh1> i like the mac look and feel
[02:31] <arghh2d2> soreau: he says he wants ubuntu to look like osx
[02:31] <soreau> josh1: Install AWN
[02:32] <carpii> wolter, you have to be careful, because trying to use the media buttons when youve nuked the partition can render the machine unbootable :/
[02:32] <aLeahhaLeY> hi everyone I have a question...I recently uninstalled ubuntu off my computer but everytime I try to restart it and use Windows I get Error 22 how do I make my computer recognize my windows partition again?
[02:32] <carpii> at least thats what ive read in ubuntu forums. it happened lots
[02:32] <soreau> !awn
[02:32] <josh1> ah, lol i have trouble doing that lol
[02:32] <Crayboff> mzz: umm i didn't anticipate that turning off the effects would get rid of my compiz settings. no the thing doesn't flash when my affects are off, but i like my effects too much to disable them
[02:32] <mzz> aLeahhaLeY: install a windows mbr. I don't know a convenient way to do that offhand.
[02:32] <dhruvasagar> aLeahhaLeY: you will need to restore your MBR
[02:32] <wolter> carpii, well, i can always turn off by pressing the power-off button for some seconds..
[02:32] <aLeahhaLeY> how do I do that?
[02:32] <josh1> i have installed it, but when i try to run it from applications a grey screen comes up then goes a way leaving me with nothing
[02:32] <shadowwulf> ashlessburn:  thanks for it
[02:33] <dhruvasagar> aLeahhaLeY: you can do that by booting from the Windows CD and going for Repair
[02:33] <zcat[1]> problem; I installed splashy.. caused me to have no spalsh at all and I can't figure out how to use it so uninstalled it again and reinstalled usplash. Now I get no splash screen. How do I fix up usplash to I can have a splash screen again?
[02:33] <zcat[1]> .
[02:33] <mzz> Crayboff: likely cause is games using opengl not running properly while compiz is running. Getting this fixed properly may take a while depending on the driver you're using.
[02:33] <soreau> aLeahhaLeY: Either reinstall grub or use the window cd (there's plenty of howto's on the net|ask in #windows)
[02:33] <ashlessburn> np mang
[02:33] <dhruvasagar> aLeahhaLeY: After you go for the repair option, you will get a command prompt, there you will find certain commands for restoring the MBR
[02:33] <Crayboff> mzz: did you get a chance to look at the pastebin?
[02:34] <dhruvasagar> aLeahhaLeY: just type help there and you will find the commands
[02:34] <Safe> I'm having some trouble. i can't boot into my ubuntu but i can access my usb stick.
[02:34] <wolter> anybody else with an xps m1530?
[02:34] <Safe> can i log into it somehow from the livecd?
[02:34] <mzz> Crayboff: missed it, reading now.
[02:34] <aLeahhaLeY> ok...so a windows cd is required to do this then right?
[02:34] <Crayboff> ah alright
[02:34] <CNLiberal> I'm back...i thought this was mdadm problem was fixed, but i think something is hosed
[02:34] <soreau> aLeahhaLeY: Not if you reinstall grub
[02:34] <mzz> aLeahhaLeY: iirc that is one possibility, but at least the sysresccd.org cd can also do this
[02:34] <CNLiberal> i added the disk back into the array and it started to rebuild
[02:34] <dhruvasagar> aLeahhaLeY: yes, unless you backed up your MBR somewhere
[02:34] <Titan8990> carpii, I have only seen drives drop off of fdisk on a machine I had a pci raid controller in
[02:35] <CNLiberal> the disks were active
[02:35] <bullgard4> What is an 'Internet file' as used in 'man lsof'?
[02:35] <Titan8990> carpii, reboot usually temporarly fixed it, have you tried a reboot?
[02:35] <carpii> hmm, theres no raid controller afaik. or if there is its definitely not raided
[02:35] <aLeahhaLeY> so if reinstall grub...and I guess ubuntu again...it will set up 2 paritions one for ubuntu and the other for windows?
[02:35] <carpii> Titan, not yet. Im trying to avoid it because website is quite busy atm
[02:35] <asc> I just performed a fresh install of 8.04. I installed the ion3 window manager and tried to log into it in GDM but it crashed instantly. Does anybody know why?
[02:35] <CNLiberal> then they stopped being active and cat /proc/mdstat kept increasing the amount of time it would take to rebuild
[02:35] <alan> having trouble with compiz, can anyone help me completely uninstall and reinstall latest stable version
[02:35] <carpii> Titan, ill try that tonight though, thanks
[02:35] <dhruvasagar> Guys I have a weird problem!
[02:35] <CNLiberal> until finally, it stopped rebuilding all together
[02:35] <mzz> Crayboff: is any particular usb device not working?
[02:36] <dhruvasagar> I am here on Ubuntu 8.10 64bit version
[02:36] <ashlessburn> aleah tryrunning the ubuntu live cd gparted if u want to create part
[02:36] <soreau> aLeahhaLeY: if that's what you tell it to do, yes. Otherwise you will need a windows cd to reinstall it's mbr
[02:36] <Titan8990> carpii, yeah, my machine is question was production server too.....
[02:36] <carpii> Titan, does the "1 3" in fstab look ok?  I thought it was odd that the 1 is same for hda too
[02:36] <CNLiberal> if anyone here is an MDADM guru, i'd really appreciate it
[02:36] <aLeahhaLeY> ok thanks a lot everyone I'll give those ideas a shot.
[02:36] <Crayboff> mzz: i have not tried using a usb device in a while
[02:36] <JesperHansen> mzz: This seems like a better guess at what is wrong: ** ERROR:(nautilus-desktop-directory.c:162):directory_ready_callback: assertion failed: (g_list_find (merged_callback->non_ready_directories, directory) != NULL)
[02:36] <CNLiberal> is there any way I can test each drive for issues?
[02:36] <dhruvasagar> if Ubuntu goes to sleep, it doesn't wake up properly I get errors while waking up and it doesnt start
[02:37] <ashlessburn> titan u have a laptop?
[02:37] <soreau> dhruvasagar: Probably a video driver issue. Which one do you use?
[02:37] <wolter> dhruvasagar, yeah.. same here
[02:37] <mzz> Crayboff: at least one is attached, and it's complaining about that device
[02:37] <Titan8990> carpii, actually, the fstab man page only says to use 0 1 or 2 for the 2nd field
[02:37] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, im on a laptop now
[02:37] <carpii> hrm
[02:37] <mzz> JesperHansen: hmm, must've missed the -desktop-directory part of that message
[02:37] <Crayboff> mzz: are you saying that there is something in my USB port?
[02:37]  * Kryzler <3 man 
[02:37] <Crayboff> mzz: cause there isn't
[02:37] <merther> Hi, my cpu is hyperthreading capable but 8.04 doesn't seem to have hyperthreading enabled.
[02:38] <mzz> Crayboff: unless I'm reading the wrong dmesg, yes.
[02:38] <geekybroad> hi folks... i installed recent version of kubuntu with a cdrom drive, installed the ubuntu desktop (and am now using that).  and the switched out the cdrom drive for a dvd-rw.  Menu:  Places -> computer only gives filesystem (my hard drive) and  LaCie (USB hard drive.)  /mnt is empty.  I can press the button on the drive, and it opens and blinks... I can insert a disc.  Just can't access it anywhere.  Dvd is only device connected w
[02:38]  * mzz doublechecks
[02:38] <merther> anyone know how to get that working?
[02:38] <diginux> merther: you have to do something special to enable it..
[02:38] <ashlessburn> titan8990, bar?
[02:38] <Crayboff> mzz: well umm I'm using a laptop and I don't see anything poking out of the sides
[02:38] <diginux> merther: if you google it, youll probably find it, i forget how to do it
[02:38] <zcat[1]> OK, looks like the only way to get my splash screen back is to reinstall the whole damn OS. Yay. that sucks.
[02:38] <cfedde> merther: usualy a bios thing iirc
[02:38] <MuffloN^> Q: I have a Creative USB Headset, how do I get it working? (Fatality HS-1000)
[02:38] <carpii> Titan, what are those fields called? Im looking at http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount but its really hard to see where theyre documented
[02:38] <merther> there's no setting in the bios that I could find.
[02:38] <dhruvasagar> soreau: wolter not sure...NVIDIA is my graphics driver...is it the same as Video driver?
[02:39] <soreau> Yes
[02:39] <Safe> why do i get "error loading system" when starting the computer? grub seems legit, havent changed a thing
[02:39] <Titan8990> carpii, i was looking at:  man fstab
[02:39] <cfedde> merther: run top. hit '1' does it list more cpu?
[02:39] <carpii> titan, ahh that looks better. thanks
[02:39] <mzz> Crayboff: nvm, it's probably just a hub
[02:39] <CNLiberal> is there a way i can test each hard drive without over writing anything on that drive?
[02:39] <durt> bullgard4: it's not Internet file, it's network file, google the three examples given and you'll see what they are
[02:39] <merther> no
[02:39] <wolter> dhruvasagar, yeah. do you use nvidia-glx-180 /
[02:39] <wolter> ?
[02:39] <dhruvasagar> soreau: so what can I do?
[02:39] <CNLiberal> i wanna make suer they aren't dropping off the system
[02:39] <soreau> dhruvasagar: Either don't let the thing go to sleep or turn off visual effects. I found that screensavers make my nvidia machine crash
[02:39] <cfedde> n
[02:39] <Crayboff> mzz: which means?
[02:39] <mzz> Crayboff: also a keyboard and mouse though.
[02:40] <dhruvasagar> wolter: I use 177.82
[02:40] <wolter> hm
[02:40] <dhruvasagar> soreau: hmm
[02:40] <wolter> but yeah
[02:40] <Safe> do anyone know how to log into an existing ubuntu from the livecd?
[02:40] <mzz> Crayboff: and an integrated webcam, if I read this right
[02:40] <wolter> it seems like its a gfx driver problem
[02:40] <wolter> Safe, you can't login
[02:40] <soreau> dhruvasagar: You can upgrade to 180 if it's an option in Sys>Admin>HW Drivers
[02:40] <wolter> Safe, you can browse files, but not login
[02:41] <Safe> stupid grub messing up for no reason
[02:41] <mzz> Crayboff: there's a "softreset failed" for your primary hd, but that's *probably* not a serious problem
[02:41] <soreau> Safe: You can fix grub from the live cd
[02:41] <zcat[1]> I really don't want to reinstall because I've done a whole heap of updates and adding packages, surely there's a less drastic way to get the freaking splash screen back a\gain. anyone?
[02:41] <Safe> yeah i know, i see nothing wrong with it though
[02:41] <Crayboff> mzz: well it has the normal keyboard attached to it and the touchpad for a mouse. it does have an integrated webcam and a microphone which I can't get to work
[02:41] <dhruvasagar> soreau: 177 is the highest version I see there...
[02:41] <CNLiberal> anything?
[02:41] <mzz> Safe: you can chroot though
[02:41] <sagredo> after updating to 8.10 expose crashes compiz-fusion, any ideas?
[02:41] <soreau> Safe: I thought you said it was messing up?
[02:41] <sagredo> after updating to 8.10 expose crashes compiz-fusion, any ideas?
[02:42] <Safe> soreau: well it wont load my ubuntu, thats a bout it
[02:42] <soreau> dhruvasagar: Then disab;e power manager
[02:42] <dhruvasagar> Guys I have another problem, there is nothing in my Add/Remove applications menu...senaptic is fine, but nothing in Add/Remove
[02:42] <Safe> soreau: just says "error starting up system os" when booting up
[02:42] <Tlchack5> hey, i wanna put ubuntu on my dell computer, but i wanna be able to go back to Windows XP (wich is currently installed) if I have problems with converting to linux... how can i set it up were i can test try ubuntu but switch back to my old operating sytem if i dont like it?
[02:42] <dhruvasagar> soreau: ok will do that
[02:42] <asc> I just performed a fresh install of 8.04. I installed the ion3 window manager and tried to log into it in GDM but it crashed instantly. It does work under gdmflexiserver --xnest, however. Can anybody help me?
[02:42] <merther> also cat /proc/cpuinfo only lists one cpu.  Is flagged that it can do hyperthreading though.
[02:42] <soreau> Safe: After the grub splash screen loads and you select ubuntu?
[02:42] <mzz> Tlchack5: easiest way may be wubi
[02:42] <Safe> i did uninstall xp but doesnt grub load from the hdd and not mbr?
[02:42] <zqj> hello
[02:42] <mzz> !wuby | mzz
[02:42] <Safe> soreau: i cant even get to grub
[02:42] <mzz> !wubi | mzz
[02:42] <pepperjack> Tlchack5: by default ubuntu allows you to retain windows and just dual boot. so you have a menu at boot that chooses ubuntu or windows
[02:43] <wolter> asc, did you try rebooting again?
[02:43] <pepperjack> Tlchack5: just follow the installer prompts
[02:43] <soreau> Safe: Then install grub from the live cd
[02:43] <mzz> !wubi | Tlchack5
[02:43] <kitche> Safe: grub installs to mbr if you tell it which is ubuntu's default
[02:43] <JesperHansen> mzz: What is the nautilus version?
[02:43] <Tlchack5> pepperjack: thank you kind sir
[02:43] <Safe> but when i changed the boot order of the hdds in bios it mattered
[02:43] <mzz> JesperHansen: I can't check currently, I'm not at the affected system. Should be latest in hardy though, so that's, um
[02:43] <asc> wolter: Not since installing ion, but it didn't help last time I tried (yesterday).
[02:43] <Safe> i mean, if i had one it loaded xp, if the other, grub
[02:44] <soreau> JesperHansen: It would be 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu4 for Hardy
[02:44] <asc> *last time I tried to do a fresh install and get ion working
[02:44] <Burnt> Hey everyone. I DLed and ran the Ubuntu Desktop through the CD I copied it on. I have a built in webcam with my computer. Is there a way to turn it on through the new OS?
[02:44] <wolter> asc, whats ion?
[02:44] <mzz> JesperHansen: 1:2.22.5.1-0ubuntu1 but I'll check if that's what she actually has later
[02:44] <asc> wolter: A window manager
[02:44] <zcat[1]> think i found it.. usplash-theme-ubuntu wasn't installed.. rebooting now to see if that works
[02:44] <wolter> asc, hm.. well, i can't help you no further
[02:44] <wolter> can*
[02:44] <soreau> !webcam | Burnt
[02:45] <asc> Kk. Thanks.
[02:45] <Safe> ohwell, how do i reinstall grub then?
[02:45] <zcat[1]> nope, still no splash screen
[02:45] <soreau> ! grub | Safe
[02:46] <dhruvasagar> guys, which is the best place to download themes for ubuntu?
[02:46] <soreau> dhruvasagar: The internet
[02:46] <zcat[1]> gnome-look.org
[02:46] <soreau> ! themes
[02:46] <mzz> Safe: sounds like you may simply have to fix up grub.conf though if all you did was reorder drives (and grub still starts)
[02:46] <carpii> try a car boot sale
[02:46] <dhruvasagar> soreau: lol, well I meant a particular website...
[02:46] <carpii> theres also kde-look.org
[02:46] <soreau> dhruvasagar: Read what ubottu said
[02:47] <Jaan|Perfect> system -> administration -> hardware testing : ubuntu 8.10. what is hardware testing and why did it ask 4 my email ID ?
[02:47] <wolter> kinja-sheep, are you there yet?
[02:47] <wolter> Jaan|Perfect, its to test how your hardware works with ubuntu, and send feedback to the ubuntu developers
[02:47] <dhruvasagar> soreau: I might have missed his message, I had got dc, I don't see any message from him about themes
[02:48] <ashlessburn> gnome theme
[02:48] <ashlessburn> or kde?
[02:48] <zcat[1]> GRGRRRRRRR
[02:48] <soreau> ! themes | dhruvasagar
[02:48] <soreau> dhruvasagar: Can you read that now?
[02:48] <Crayboff> umm any explanation why my IP address changed without my permission? also, why does whatismyipaddress.com say I live in kansas?
[02:49] <zcat[1]> one tiny stupid mistake and nobody can tell me how to fix it up again?
[02:49] <soreau> zcat[1]: Why did you mess with it?
[02:49] <kitche> Crayboff: maybe because your ISP is in kansas for the main hub not really a question for this channel really
[02:49] <kitche> Crayboff: also IP addresses refresh if you do not have a static IP
[02:49] <Jaan|Perfect> wolter, i have installed 8.1 invmware, is there anyway to know about installed hardware and its drivers
[02:49] <mzz> Crayboff: more likely to be your isp being weird than ubuntu being weird
[02:49] <dhruvasagar> soreau: yea
[02:49] <dhruvasagar> ubottu: thanks!
[02:49] <bullgard4> mikegriffin: man 8 lsof: " -i [i]   This option selects the listing of files any of whose Internet address matches the address specified in i.  If no address is specified, this option selects the listing of all Internet and x.25  (HP-UX)  network files." How can you state: "It's not Internet file"? I do not understand.
[02:50] <zcat[1]> trying to get a custom splash screen.. right now I'd settle for any splash screen at all again.
[02:50] <mzz> ubottu: botsnack
[02:50] <MuffloN^> Q: I have a Creative USB Headset, how do I get it working? (Fatality HS-1000)
[02:50] <prince_jammys> zcat[1]: is 'splash' specified in your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[02:50] <Crayboff> kitche: I have verizon fios and it hadn't changed for like 6 months
[02:50] <Crayboff> mzz: probably
[02:50] <wolter> Jaan|Perfect, hm, you have to install the guest additions or something like that to get everything working.
[02:50] <zcat[1]> YES
[02:50] <kitche> Crayboff: think 6 months is fios IP lease time then it refreshes
[02:50] <soreau> MuffloN^: You're probably better off googling the model you just posted with keyword ubuntu
[02:51] <ubuntu_> hi i made a usb start up disk and i am trying to install drivers for my video card i installed them then i go to restart my computer and during restart i get this error ( [Restricted drivers] Perhaps there is a stale stock file [failed] it also says cannot create link /etc/mtab/ any ideas why this is happaning
[02:51] <hyperbuddha> ktche just use dyndns
[02:51] <MuffloN^> soreau: That's the thing, there are about zero results
[02:51] <mzz> MuffloN^: (assuming just plugging it in and unmuting it doesn't do the trick)
[02:51] <soreau> Indeed
[02:51] <MuffloN^> Nope
[02:51] <Jaan|Perfect> wolter. how can i generate a list of my hardware and it's corresponding drivers information
[02:51] <prince_jammys> zcat[1]: you tried running the update-alternatives command after installing usplash-theme-ubuntu ?
[02:52] <Droopsta915> What codec can I use for m4a files?
[02:52] <prince_jammys> zcat[1]: the one mentioned in ubottu's factoid
[02:52] <sileni> hey guys i think ubuntu just updated my firefox, and now when i open firefox its fully maximized and i don't see the buttons that allow me to minimize resize and such. Is there anyway to enable this again in firefox 3.0
[02:52] <mzz> MuffloN^: also look at dmesg and/or lsusb to see what kind of device it actually is (you may find a chipset name/number there that gives better google results than the name on the box)
[02:52] <zcat[1]> just waiting for reboot.. will try that next
[02:52] <MuffloN^> lsusb: Bus 005 Device 003: ID 041e:0400 Creative Technology, Ltd
[02:52] <ubuntu_> hi i made a usb start up disk and i am trying to install drivers for my video card i installed them then i go to restart my computer and during restart i get this error ( [Restricted drivers] Perhaps there is a stale stock file [failed] it also says cannot create link /etc/mtab/ any ideas why this is happaning
[02:52] <pepperjack> sileni: f11?
[02:52] <Ciolivera> wWw.metroflog.com/ci0livera
[02:52] <MuffloN^> dmesg generic-usb 0003:041E:0400.0003: input: USB HID v1.11 Device [Creative Technology Creative USB Headset] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1/input3
[02:52]  * mzz glares at the wireless cardbus card with no "realtek" or "rt2500" visible externally
[02:53] <sileni> pepperjack: oh my it worked!
[02:53] <pepperjack> sileni: heh :)
[02:53] <sileni> pepperjack: t hank you so much!
[02:53] <mzz> MuffloN^: dmesg?
[02:53] <ashlessburn> zcat[1]  sudo apt-get autoremove splashy splashy-themes
[02:53] <ashlessburn> sudo apt-get install usplash
[02:53] <pepperjack> sileni: np
[02:53] <MuffloN^> mzz: I posted it
[02:53] <ashlessburn> both commands
[02:53] <wolter> Jaan|Perfect, get gnome-device-manager
[02:53] <MuffloN^> mzz:  generic-usb 0003:041E:0400.0003: input: USB HID v1.11 Device [Creative Technology Creative USB Headset] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1/input3
[02:53] <ubuntu_> does anyone have anyidea why this is happaning or any suggestions
[02:53] <fluitfries> how do i enable all the buttons on my logitech mouse?
[02:53] <wolter> Jaan|Perfect, but most of your hardware will be virtual
[02:53] <JesperHansen> mzz: well, nothing changed from 2.22.5.1 to 2.24.1 in directory_ready_callback.. must be somewhere else things have been fixed.
[02:53] <fluitfries> at least the mmb.
[02:54] <mzz> MuffloN^: sorry, missed it. That's all there is? The HID device isn't what you're after...
[02:54] <zcat[1]> ashlessburn: I already did apt-get remove --purge all of the packages splashy installed...
[02:54] <MuffloN^> mzz: Give me a second to confirm that's that all
[02:54] <ashlessburn> sudo apt-get install usplash   try this and then restart ...make sure ur grub is fine
[02:54] <ashlessburn> 64bit or 32
[02:54] <mzz> MuffloN^: just pastebin 20 lines or so of dmesg around that line if in doubt, and/or more of lsusb
[02:55]  * mzz is much better at weeding out noise than at figuring out useful context was omitted
[02:55] <Crayboff> if you want to access your router, you put "127.0.0.1" into the url bar, right?
[02:55] <pepperjack> Crayboff: nope
[02:55] <mzz> Crayboff: 127.0.0.1 is localhost, not your router
[02:55] <zcat[1]> reboot-alternatives --all may have fixed it.. rebooting
[02:55] <zcat[1]> nope.
[02:55] <Crayboff> oops, well what do i put in then?
[02:55] <Droopsta915> pepperjack:I have the same prob sileni had, only it's doing it in open office word processor. Can u help? please
[02:55] <Crayboff> my external IP address?
[02:55] <MuffloN^> mzz: yes, that was all
[02:56] <pepperjack> Droopsta915: soory im not too familiar with that app. if you only need to move it to access a button you can alt+leftclick on any window to drag it around
[02:56] <mzz> Crayboff: the address mentioned as default gateway in the output from "route" tends to work, afaik
[02:56]  * mzz isn't great at networking though...
[02:56] <mzz> MuffloN^: not sure what's up with that then, sorry.
[02:56] <soreau> Crayboff: Your router ip. it depends on which router you have but this isn't #networking
[02:56] <pepperjack> Droopsta915: that will often end fullscreen as well
[02:56] <Jaan|Perfect> wolter, i will fire up vmware and install gnome device manager and see what happens
[02:56] <MasterShrek> anyone know of a torrent client that i can use that doesnt require a gui but has a web ui?
[02:57] <mxparson_> 10:56 [ fluitfries      ] [ njoy            ] [ zcat[1]         ]
[02:57] <mxparson_> 10:56 [ fosco__         ] [ nopoles         ] [ zigovr          ]
[02:57] <mxparson_> 10:56 [ fosco__         ] [ nopoles         ] [ zigovr          ]
[02:57] <mxparson_> 10:56 [ freq18hz        ] [ nuhnuhnuh       ] [ {devil}         ]
[02:57] <MuffloN^> mzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117104/
[02:57] <MuffloN^> mzz: lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/117105/
[02:57] <Droopsta915> thanks
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> Crayboff, probably 192.168.1.1
[02:58] <josh1> hello ubuntu, i need some much needed help. im trying to get a mac taskbar look a like, i have AWN but it does seem to work on my computer, so then it was suggested i try Cairo, i have that on right now, but its gelitchy and would like to knwo if theres something else out there i can use?
[02:58] <Crayboff> ya, kindofabuzz, it works
[02:59] <prince_jammys> josh1: there's a kde one called kooldock
[02:59] <mzz> MuffloN^: sorry, no idea
[02:59] <carpii> MasterShrek, try azureus.  You acn run it from cmdline and admin it via http
[02:59] <frank3> frank3
[02:59] <josh1> where would i find this how do it get it?
[02:59] <kindofabuzz> for default router ips: http://www.answersthatwork.com/Download_Area/ATW_Library/Networking/Network__4-List_of_default_Router_Admin_Passwords_and_IP_addresses.pdf
[02:59] <prince_jammys> josh1: you can install it with apt/synaptic
[02:59] <usser> josh1, try wbar its very lightweight, fast and somewhat feature-limited, but fast
[02:59] <usser> josh1, oh did i mention it was very fast
[03:00] <Scunizi> josh1: awn should work if your video drivers are providing glx.. do you have an nvidia card? did you install the restricted driver from system>admin>hardware drivers
[03:00] <soreau> josh1: AWN requires a compositing window manager like compiz. which graphics hardware / drivers do you use?
[03:00] <josh1> my computer is about 5 years old and im using a built in video card otyher than that im not sure on graphics
[03:01] <josh1> usser where do i, how do i get that prgram
[03:01] <usser> josh1, http://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list
[03:01] <Scunizi> josh1: do a lspci | less to look at the list of hardware on the pci buss.. it should identify the card
[03:02] <arief> a
[03:02] <Owner> I just installed mysql.. .the default password isn't blank?
[03:02] <Owner> What is it?
[03:02] <Owner> I am so confused
[03:02] <Owner> there is no hint at to what it could be
[03:02] <syockit> Owner: try reconfiguring?
[03:02] <Titan8990> Owner, it asks you during installation....
[03:02] <josh1> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[03:02] <foolz> where can I go to find themes for Gnome?
[03:02] <syockit> Owner: probably 'root'
[03:02] <Scunizi> Owner if it didn't ask to set a password on install then you have to set it. google.
[03:02] <usser> josh1, get the deb file for etch, it should work just fine in ubuntu, also get wbarconf it simplifies configuration alot http://www.gtkfiles.org/app.php/wbarconf
[03:03] <bullgard4> What is an 'Internet file' as used in 'man lsof'?
[03:03] <Titan8990> Owner, yes, there is a command to set roots pw
[03:03] <arief> does anyone know what is the command to connect in to wireless in kosole terminal???
[03:03] <Owner> Titan8990, what is it!?
[03:03] <kindofabuzz> Owner, when you installed mysql it should've asked you then to set a password when installing
[03:04] <Titan8990> Owner, is the password null or you don't know the password?
[03:04] <syockit> kindofabuzz: it didn't when I did tasksel lamp-server
[03:04] <Owner> hmmm
[03:04] <Owner> I guess it prompted her for one but she mistyped it
[03:04] <kindofabuzz> it did prompt you, that's part of the install, it won't install until you set a pasword
[03:04] <Owner> tried to purge mysql-server and reinstall it
[03:04] <Owner> didnt prompt that time
[03:04] <kindofabuzz> it even asks you twice
[03:05] <Titan8990> Owner: that makes things more difficult... try:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql
[03:05] <kindofabuzz> well you'll probably have to reinstall it, you can'tset a new pass unless you know the pass
[03:05] <zhjawe> Hi,Does anyone know how to convert jpg file to PDF?多谢。
[03:05] <kindofabuzz> zhaozhou, install imagemagiic
[03:06] <kindofabuzz> zhaozhou, install Imagemagick then convert whatever.jpg whatever.pdf
[03:07] <mzz> zhjawe: what kindofabuzz said and use "convert blah.png blah.pdf" on the commandline, or open in any image editor and print to pdf
[03:07] <mzz> err, jpg, not png
[03:07] <_theradar> anybody here use fluxbox with two monitors?
[03:08]  * kindofabuzz gets back to learning python
[03:08] <mzz> yay!
[03:08] <zhjawe> Thank you,are there some command tools?
[03:08] <secvuln> hello
[03:08] <mzz> zhjawe: "convert" is a commandline tool.
[03:09] <secvuln> adobe flash says that /usr/lib/mozilla is not a valid installation path. Is that not the right path?
[03:09] <mzz> secvuln: are you trying to install flash by hand? Why not use the package (iirc it's called flashplugin-nonfree)?
[03:09] <usser> secvuln, theres no need to use installer from adobe.com
[03:09] <zhjawe>  mzz:Thanks your help,I will download and try it.
[03:10] <mzz> (does someone have a good "don't run installers as root, the package manager is your friend" rant I can link to? I'm considering writing one)
[03:10] <secvuln> As it's for a program, I have to due it via shell.
[03:10] <dusint_mattr> Hmmm.... Hi
[03:10] <mzz> secvuln: I don't follow.
[03:10] <usser> secvuln, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:11] <soreau> mzz: It should be a factoid..
[03:11] <nickrud> mzz, look around on help.ubuntu.com, if not add it :)
[03:11] <soreau> ! root
[03:11] <fishn> anyone in here can help me get pidgin-encryption-3.0 compile ?
[03:11] <mzz> soreau: was thinking of something slightly longer than that
[03:11] <CNLiberal> can anyone tell me how to blink a certain drive?
[03:11] <mzz> soreau: short web page
[03:11] <ashlessburn> su     sudo -i   or setting permmisions ....if its opensuse then it toor
[03:12] <soreau> mzz: But the factoid would point to the link and hasty users never follow links - unless you just want to have a blog rant ;)
[03:12] <shakir> E: nagios3-common: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1  : does anybody knew what is this its show me when im installing something
[03:12] <dusint_mattr> info
[03:12] <mzz> shakir: the actual error is hopefully above that
[03:12] <nickrud> mzz, mention bin, rpm, etc, write a short factoid, do it well and the people with bot privs will probably add it.
[03:12] <Joeseph> with the latest update to Firefox, I can no longer enter in an address into the address bar, or the search bar and go to that page: it gives me an error.    Is this common?
[03:12] <mzz> soreau: I think it might be useful for people migrating from windows
[03:12] <fluitfries> is there a command to tell me the exact make and model of my video card?
[03:12] <shakir> can i fix that?
[03:13] <mzz> Joeseph: what's the error?
[03:13] <nickrud> fluitfries, lspci | grep -i vga
[03:13] <mzz> fluitfries: lspci usually has that info
[03:13] <soreau> mzz: If they read it, quite
[03:13] <fluitfries> thanks!
[03:13] <shakir> mzz : can i fix that ?
[03:13] <mzz> soreau: I'll just stop talking to them if they don't, or something
[03:13] <mzz> shakir: that depends on what the actual error is
[03:14] <Joeseph> mzz: The error is "ASSERT: Search: _installLocation: enghine has no file!"  and then it gives me a stack Trace, which I don't think will be relevant.
[03:14] <fishn> or more or less anyone got pidgin running with encryption 3.0 script , it fails when i configure
[03:14] <mzz> shakir: this just means "post-installation script failed". It doesn't tell you why (and post-installation scripts can do a wide variety of things)
[03:14] <vigneswwaaa> my laptop is dropping internet constantly
[03:14] <soreau> mzz: "But when I run as regular user, it don't work"
[03:14] <mzz> Joeseph: got any extensions?
[03:14] <ashlessburn> lol
[03:14] <mzz> Joeseph: oh, and did you restart the browser completely after installing the upgrade?
[03:14] <shakir> mzz : ok thanks
[03:14] <Logikos> i've had ubuntu up and running very nicely now for a few months but i left for a couple days and came back and now when it boots it doesnt load GUI, it says BusyBox v1.1.3 Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell (ASH) and gives me a prompt of (initramfs) ... what happened and what do i have to do to fix it please???
[03:14] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, what card do you have?
[03:14]  * mzz stops talking to soreau 
[03:14] <mzz> :P
[03:14] <secvuln> any idea how to get ubuntu to support my sound card?
[03:15] <Joeseph> mzz:     I exed it out and then opened it up again....   I have a few, yes...
[03:15] <vigneswwaaa> I am not sure
[03:15] <nickrud> shakir, sudo apt-get -f  install ; run that and put the complete error on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:15] <soreau> mzz:)
[03:15] <mzz> Joeseph: does it still fail with those off (or use the firefox safe mode)? Also consider pastebinning the stack trace
[03:15] <vigneswwaaa> I have an HP pavilion with ubuntu 8.10
[03:15] <vigneswwaaa> is there a way to check my card
[03:16] <Joeseph> mzz: ah.... the clever little "downloads" box was hiding on another desktop of mine.... ha..... it'll probably work now.
[03:16] <Logikos> i've had ubuntu up and running very nicely now for a few months but i left for a couple days and came back and now when it boots it doesnt load GUI, it says BusyBox v1.1.3 Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell (ASH) and gives me a prompt of (initramfs) ... what happened and what do i have to do to fix it please???
[03:16] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, lscpi | grep wireless
[03:16] <mzz> Logikos: might want to repeat slightly less often (not sure what'd cause this, possibly a bogus root= in grub.conf)
[03:16] <LogicFan> new user to ubuntu 8.10 (running 64bit) and I'm curious about the updates mechanism.  It seems that tons of stuff is added to the "recommended updates" section that has nothing to do with my computer.  e.g. X display drivers for hardware I don't have.  Is there a way to get more relevant updates?
[03:17] <mzz> LogicFan: I'd try to uninstall the drivers you don't use
[03:17] <mzz> LogicFan: not sure how easy that is for these drivers
[03:17] <Logikos> mzz: ... but how would it have goten there and how do i fix it... i'm prity new to linux
[03:17] <shakir> nickrud  i put the error
[03:17] <dusint_mattr> er...
[03:17] <nickrud> shakir, give me the link, please
[03:18] <shakir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117109/
[03:18] <mzz> Logikos: no idea how that would've happened. I'd use a linux livecd or the grub menu to check what's in grub.conf makes any sense, and also check if anything interesting is logged before it drops you to a shell.
[03:18] <LogicFan> mzz, i'm curious why its offering them in the first place?  do i have some default installed package(s) that its looking at to determine what to recommend?
[03:18] <Sarthor> routing for multiple uplinks /providers, my question is here, HELP  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/routing-for-multiple-uplinks-providers-703789/
[03:18] <vigneswwaaa> lscpi | grep wireless do i type this in the terminal
[03:18] <ammagendut> hi
[03:18] <ammagendut> can i solve this?
[03:18] <ammagendut> Type '--2009-02-12' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mmu.list
[03:19] <mzz> LogicFan: not familiar enough with ubuntu to know if this is accurate, but I'm pretty sure the installer doesn't do (much) hardware detection. It just installs most interesting drivers and auto-detects at boot.
[03:19] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, yes
[03:19] <nickrud> shakir,   gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/nagios3-common.postinst , put the contents on the pastebin please
[03:19] <bullgard4> What is an 'Internet file' as used in 'man lsof'?
[03:19] <Logikos> mzz: if you are refering to the menu where it says press escape and gives you like 3 seconds ... that has like 7 things in it ... its ubuntu, ubuntu recovery ... and then it repeats ... ubuntu ubuntu recovery or something ...
[03:19] <LogicFan> mzz, appreciate the response, thanks
[03:20] <vigneswwaaa> i copy and paste that and it says command not m=found
[03:20] <mzz> LogicFan: advantage is you can safely swap hardware without having to install drivers before you do so
[03:20] <soreau> ammagendut: I think /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ should be empty.. backup the mmu.list there then delete it and try again
[03:20] <vigneswwaaa> command not found
[03:20] <bernz> vigneswwaaa, careful, it appears you have a typo there maybe .... 'lspci', not 'lscpi' (though i could be wrong)
[03:20] <mzz> LogicFan: disadvantage is you have a ridiculous amount of drivers installed (and updated)
[03:20] <nickrud> mzz, that's pretty much correct, about drivers.
[03:20] <soreau> vigneswwaaa: lspci not lscpi
[03:20] <mzz> Logikos: yes, that menu. Using a livecd may be easier if you're new to things though.
[03:20] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, sorry:   lspci | grep wireless
[03:21] <shakir> nickrud : http://paste.ubuntu.com/117110/
[03:21] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, typo....
[03:21] <keevie> when upgrading to intrepid from hardy, something went very wrong. . .https://keevie.privatepaste.com/3djs1WqBux it looks like this is a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/289091 how do i fix this?
[03:21] <vigneswwaaa> well this time when i type it it does nothing
[03:22] <pepperjack> vigneswwaaa: always a good sign
[03:22] <vigneswwaaa> i got it
[03:22] <MarkJones> Can any of you say what the general rule of thumb is for when/if to install a new release of ubuntu? Do most people wait a while after most releases till theres a bunch of updates available so they dont run into major issues? Or is it just a jump in and start breaking stuff kinda thing and dont wait for anything?
[03:22] <Logikos> mzz: ok, but things may be more complex, windows xp was on this computer first, and i installed ubuntu from within windows, so ubuntu was made the 2nd operating system, windows xp offers the first boot menu, which i reversed and changed so ubuntu boots first ... as a result this drive is an NTFS partition and the ubuntu disk is really just a file on this drive  i think?? will the live cd see that and i'll be able to mess with it or 
[03:22] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, alright, do:   lspci
[03:22] <Logikos> mzz: also, if i reboot to a live cd, i wont be able to be in here asking questions ... so i need to figure out everything i need to do, before i try it
[03:22] <keevie> sorry, broken link https://keevie.privatepaste.com/3djs1WqBux
[03:22] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, pastebin the results
[03:23] <pepperjack> MarkJones: depends on the machine. many people jump from one update to the next. as long as you are able to put up with downtime that should be fine
[03:23] <mzz> Logikos: why not? You should be able to get at the net from the livecd just fine. Doesn't it have an irc client?
[03:23] <MarkJones> Im just wondering cause 8.04.2 seems realy reliable now to me and 8.10 still has reliability issues for me.
[03:23] <ashlessburn> mark what bit are u running'
[03:23] <mzz> Logikos: how did you do the "reversed" bit?
[03:23] <MarkJones> I see.
[03:23] <soreau> MarkJones: Then keep using 8.04 since it's LTS
[03:23] <mzz> Logikos: I'm not really familiar with wubi, if that's what you used...
[03:23] <vigneswwaaa> is it the netowrk controller
[03:23] <soreau> !lts
[03:23] <MarkJones> Right thats what im on right now.
[03:24] <marca311> Hi there! which do you think is better? 8.04 or 8.10
[03:24] <vigneswwaaa> cuz if it is then its
[03:24] <nickrud> shakir, ok, what we're gonna do is set up this package to just get it installed, then remove it immediately. Not sure why the file/dir wasn't created in /var/run
[03:24] <vigneswwaaa> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[03:24] <soreau> ! best | marca311
[03:24] <jaxx2kde> hey i had a quick question.. suppose i have a tarball lying on my desktop.. and i go and install the drivers after extracting it and all.. can i delete the folder?
[03:24] <Aleahhaley> hey everyone I'm back again...my issue was that after I uninstalled ubuntu my computer keeps trying to load grub and it won't load my windows partition anymore.
[03:24] <nickrud> shakir,   gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/nagios3-common.postinst
[03:24] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, that is it, you are using iw3945 drivers
[03:24] <keevie> jaxx2kde,  yes
[03:24] <soreau> marca311: It depends on the machine you're using and ultimately your opinion. The other big factor is what you use it for
[03:24] <mzz> jaxx2kde: probably, but don't install stuff by hand, use proper packages
[03:24] <vigneswwaaa> what does that mean
[03:24] <Aleahhaley> I got a windows cd though and went into the Repair section...but what do I do from there?
[03:25] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:25] <Logikos> mzz: i didnt use wubi ... no clue what it is, i burned the normal ubuntu cd, and put it in while i was in windows and to my surpize it had an instal option ... as for reversing i just ment in teh windows boot menu i reversed the order so that the default would be ubuntu rather than windows
[03:25] <marca311> thank you
[03:25] <jaxx2kde> keevie, mzz thanks
[03:25] <keevie> mzz, ....what if you need newer versions, there is nothing wrong with building things from source
[03:25] <mzz> Logikos: I think that was wubi, but someone would have to confirm
[03:25] <Logikos> mzz: as for the live cd having an irc client ... i have no idea?
[03:25] <vigneswwaaa> 8.10
[03:25] <soreau> Aleahhaley: Google it or ask in #windows | This isn't #windows
[03:25] <ubuntu_> how do i stop x11
[03:25] <MarkJones> As far as sticking with LTS releases goes, for the people who want reliable systems, do most wait for the first point release or not? Cause I remeber when I first tried 8.04 and it was ok, and now I came back and tried 8.04.2 and thats what I am on now and all seems great.
[03:25] <mib_lkgyn7> mzz: Any specifics? I am a little fimilar with wubi
[03:25] <mzz> keevie: as long as you don't run "make install" or the equivalent as root, sure (use checkinstall or an equivalent)
[03:25] <shakir> nickrud : http://paste.ubuntu.com/117112/
[03:25] <Aleahhaley> ok thanks.
[03:26] <pepperjack> ubuntu_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  just restart instead of stop to restart
[03:26] <nickrud> MarkJones, for people that rely on their servers it's pretty common
[03:26] <Logikos> mzz: well i downloaded the normal live cd when i did it, if becuase i loaded it in windows it used 'wubi' i have no idea ... but ubuntu is not running inside windows when i boot to it ... that is, windows doesnt run when i boot to ubuntu
[03:26] <keevie> when upgrading to intrepid from hardy, something went very wrong. . .https://keevie.privatepaste.com/3djs1WqBux it looks like this is a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/289091 how do i fix this?
[03:26] <soreau> ubuntu_: Ctrl+Alt+F1 then login and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[03:26] <mzz> mib_lkgyn7: Logikos here had it booting windows bootmanager thingy -> grub -> ubuntu, now it boots grub -> initramfs rescue shell.
[03:26] <nickrud> shakir, ok, on line 4 type    exit 0 , then save and close the file
[03:26] <mepholic> u
[03:26] <MarkJones> Ok cool.So what is the next expected LTS release anyways? 9.10?
[03:26] <mzz> mib_lkgyn7: that's about all the info I have so far
[03:27] <Titan8990> vigneswwaaa, you should check out this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[03:27] <nickrud> !releases | MarkJones
[03:27] <mib_lkgyn7> mzz: The first setup is definitely wubi's way of doing things. But it can also be done by hand if required to do so
[03:27] <uzair> hi all, i was looking for some help regarding open vpn (vpn connections in general actually)
[03:27] <vigneswwaaa> ok will do
[03:27] <vigneswwaaa> thanks
[03:27] <mzz> mib_lkgyn7: this sounds like what the initramfs would do for a nonsensical root=, but I don't know what a sensible root= is for a wubi install
[03:28] <shakir> nickrud :  line 4 that si  after set -e ?
[03:28] <Logikos> mzz mib_lkgyn7:  it is still loading windows boot menu first, that is all the same, windows boot menu, ubuntu's menu option (if i hit escape) ... and then when it would normaly load ubuntu, it loads initramfs
[03:28] <nickrud> !wubi | mib_lkgyn7 (more likely to get reliable support on their forum. Most of the people on irc don't use wubi :)
[03:28] <nickrud> shakir, exactlyt
[03:29] <porter1> !flash
[03:29] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: And you haven't made any drastic changes after the install? Meaning, the wubi install is still intact?
[03:29] <shakir> nickrud: i saved now?
[03:29] <nickrud> mib_lkgyn7, ah, sorry, misread/typed
[03:29] <MarkJones> Ok cool.Looks like Ill be sticking with LTS releases only, and always waiting for the first point release so I have a reliable system.Thank you guys!
[03:29] <Logikos> mzz, mib_lkgyn7: also when i loaded windows it said it recovered from severe error ... my gf had loaded windows, and when i came back windows aparently crashed (not sure why, she wont tell) and ubuntu (being the default in windows boot menu) tryed to load but went to initramfs instead
[03:29] <nickrud> shakir, yes. after you save, run   sudo apt-get -f install
[03:30] <gamma> Hi, i got my GDM to start manual, and can't remember how to fix it back!!
[03:30] <mib_lkgyn7> nickrud: Doesn't matter. Mibbit doesn't even highlight messages with my nick :P
[03:30] <Owner> .j #flexd
[03:30] <shakir> nickrud : http://paste.ubuntu.com/117115/
[03:30] <Titan8990> gamma, sudo update-rc.d gdm
[03:30] <gamma> thanks
[03:31] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7: no changes, it worked perfectly before i left for my trip, today my gf was trying to print something and i walked her though some things, had her boot to windows to print .. she left it in windows, says nothing strange happened, i come home and its in initramfs ...i reboot same thing, i go to windows and it says it recovered from a severe error
[03:31] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: Does it always say recovered from a serious error? Did you try doing a diskcheck?
[03:31] <nickrud> shakir, ok, so far so good. now, sudo apt-get purge nagios3-common nagios3  to remove it
[03:31] <Titan8990> gamma, or it might be: sudo update-rc.d add gdm
[03:31] <mzz> Logikos: I'm not sure what happened, but if this is wubi (which I think it is) I have pretty much no idea what the normal state of things is, so I can't really tell what changed from that state either
[03:32] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7: since i got back, i've only booted into windows once ... so its only said it once, i wouldnt expect it to say it again but i havent tryed
[03:32] <MarkJones> Only problem I see is that ive been in Debian Etch until now and I have a LPR driver and cups wrapper for my printer.But not sure how to get that driver to work.It doesnt show up in the drivers list like in Debian.Anyone know what I need to do?
[03:32] <keevie> when upgrading to intrepid from hardy, something went very wrong. . .https://keevie.privatepaste.com/3djs1WqBux it looks like this is a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/289091 does anyone know how do i fix this?
[03:32] <mib_lkgyn7> mzz: Here is a drill down of what happens, a large file is created on the NTFS partition. The NTFS parition is mounted on /host, and then the file is loopback mounted on /
[03:32] <shakir> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117117/
[03:32] <peepsalot> I tried setting resolv.conf, but it was apparently overwritten.  is there a way to set this so it won't be overwritten?
[03:33] <mzz> mib_lkgyn7: the initramfs does all that, right?
[03:33] <MarkJones> Right now my printer is using a recomended driver instead.
[03:33] <Logikos> mzz, mib_lkgyn7 i have my ubuntu dvd ... i could try putting it in right now and see if it gives me a prompt or something ??
[03:33] <mzz> mib_lkgyn7: how is the initramfs told where everything is?
[03:33] <nickrud> MarkJones, make sure that you've installed the right packages; if so, file a bug
[03:33] <mib_lkgyn7> mzz: I am not exactly sure how it is internally handled. Wait, let me try to digg up some info
[03:33] <mzz> mib_lkgyn7: I can do that myself, probably :)
[03:33] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: A diskcheck from Windows wouldn't hurt a little bit
[03:34] <nickrud> shakir, ok, we're in a stable state with nagios3 uninistalled. You can try reinstalling it, but I think you might want to check that you have disk space left, etc.
[03:34] <X4D_> Hello, is there a channel around here to get help with networking, more specifically troubleshooting DNS problems
[03:35] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7: k
[03:35] <shakir> nickrud: i have a 63.7 GB free disc space
[03:35] <nickrud> shakir, hm, you only tried installing nagios3-common in the first place?
[03:36] <keevie> when upgrading to intrepid from hardy, something went very wrong. . .https://keevie.privatepaste.com/3djs1WqBux it looks like this is a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/289091 does anyone know how do i fix this?
[03:36] <secvuln> anyone have any idea on how to get ubuntu to reconize my sound card?
[03:36] <keevie> !details secvuln
[03:37] <keevie> meh
[03:37] <shakir> nickrud: now what shoud i do ?
[03:37] <keevie> secvuln, whats the matter? whats the sound card?
[03:37] <northox> linux is gay stuff
[03:37] <youyi> -cn
[03:38] <nickrud> shakir, if you're trying to get nagios3 , you should do   sudo apt-get install nagios3  , it will pull in any packages it needs, including -common. Now, I'm not promising it will work, that you won't be in the same spot you were ;)
[03:38] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7: diskcheck complete, (i did not check the box to scan for and atempt to repair bad sectors ... that takes hours?) but the normal check passed fine
[03:38] <secvuln> keeview, Don't really know, it's a laptop and I usually refrain from opening them, as there small and compact.
[03:38] <marca311_> northox: how come you are on the ubuntu forums?
[03:38] <keevie> secvuln, what???
[03:39] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: Yeah, that should be fine. So, the thing is it goes into initramfs recovery... there are a few threads on ubuntuforums but nothing too substaincial
[03:39] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7: in grub's menu there is a recovery option .... i chose to try to boot to windows before i tryed that, so i didnt try it ... what does that do, is it worth a try?
[03:39] <secvuln> keeview, I don't really know
[03:39] <billybigrigger> w00t..just put my new server together and it posted first go!!!
[03:39] <secvuln> keeview, I don't know what sound card is in here unfortunately.
[03:39] <billybigrigger> just thought i'd share that with everyone, im pumped muhaha
[03:40] <shakir> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117118/
[03:40] <nickrud> shakir, ok, that's a good install.
[03:40] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7 most of my data, from in ubuntu, or windows, i stored to other partitions ... so if i lost this and had to start over it wouldnt kill me, however it would be very inconvient ...
[03:40] <X4D_> I need help... I was messing around with dyndns and registered my IP there... I was not able to make it work properly... now I can't access most websites, google yes, wikipedia no and many others are unreachable. Is there anyone who could point me in the right direction to solve this problem ?
[03:40] <keevie> secvuln, find out! google the laptop or someting
[03:40] <shakir> nickrud : now we fix the error?
[03:41] <bjb1959> trying to get a tv card and usb camera to work but can't because they both try to use /dev/video0 any ideas?
[03:41] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: Yeah I get it. Although it is a really weird bug, let me see if google can kelp
[03:41] <nickrud> shakir, no error to fix now :)
[03:41] <shakir> nickrud: ok thank you very much
[03:41] <Marsjanin> Hello
[03:41] <n1ghtcrwler> mornin
[03:41] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7 good luck, i tryed google but didnt notice anything to useful ...
[03:41] <nickrud> shakir, if you compare http://paste.ubuntu.com/117109/ to the last paste, you can see the difference and similarity
[03:41] <keevie> when upgrading to intrepid from hardy, something went very wrong. . .https://keevie.privatepaste.com/3djs1WqBux it looks like this is a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/289091 does anyone know how do i fix this?
[03:42] <n1ghtcrwler> I have a couple things I'd like some advice on, if I could
[03:42] <nickrud> keevie, I tried going to your pastebin; it has a cert and I can't click it easily because of the leading period
[03:42] <shakir> nickrud:) yes i can see difference :)
[03:42] <nickrud> keevie, the leading period in the link above
[03:42] <keevie> Nickrud, sorry, ill paste it somewhere else
[03:42] <Scunizi> X4D_: most likely your dns servers in the router you replaced with those suggested by dyndns.. if you don't want the service chnage the dns servers.
[03:43] <keevie> nickrud, http://pastebin.com/m2351ee2c
[03:44] <n1ghtcrwler> I just installed intrepid onto my older Gateway laptop.  It created a partition (which I'd like to delete the Windows one, issue one), and I can't get the wireless receiver to turn on (issue two)
[03:44] <Marsjanin> I got a problem: somebody packed up a huge file with (as I suppose) WinZIP using (new in it?) multipart function. The files are named: .z01 .z02 .z03 and last .zip - I cannot open it under Ubuntu in no way. :( Even copying it with cat first > temp, cat second >> temp etc.
[03:44] <Dracie_> freaking fail - this is why nobody uses emerald https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emerald/+bug/205364
[03:44] <n1ghtcrwler> anybody know how to do either of those?  The wireless is the more pressing issue
[03:45] <Baatti> Greetings all, I was wondering if I could get some assistance with Direct Connecting my cell phone to my linux box via a usb cable
[03:45] <X4D_> Scunizi: thanks for the tip, but I have reset my router and my DNS are pointing to my ISP. I've also expierienced similar issues before with MTU settings but after adjusting them there is no change
[03:45] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7 when i put the ubuntu dvd into windows now it gives 3 options, first is 'demo and full instal' which reads to reboot the system, boot to cd, and you can demo, instal ubuntu alongside windows, or as the only OS ... 2nd option (probably what i tryed last time to get the setup i now have which worked for a few months untill now) is 'install inside windows' which reads to instal and uninstal ubuntu like any other application,
[03:45] <trwww> Hello. I can ssh from ALICE to BOBO but not BOB to ALICE. How do I copy a directory on ALICE to BOB?
[03:45] <Baatti> When I connect the phone, Linux recognizes it as a Broadband connection. I'm looking to just mount the phone as a volume
[03:45] <nickrud> keevie, I can help you remove the certificate package and the error; if you have one of the headless jre's installed that means it'll have to go as well. Or, we can fake out dpkg, make it think the cert package installed ok even though it didn't. That'll fix apt for you
[03:45] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: Yeah, that is wubi. It relies of some parts of Windows to run properly
[03:46] <keevie> nickrud, great, i dont mind killing some certs, where to look?
[03:46] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: I would say, go for a full install if you really want Ubuntu as a full fledge OS
[03:46] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7: i would much rather we figure out how to save my past instlation beings i cant go in there and back anything up (such as my email) .. but if i chose option 1, and instal it alongside windows ... how does that work? how is it different?
[03:46] <keevie> nickrud, pm?
[03:46] <mzz> trwww: just use scp (scp /path/to/dir bob:/path/to/destination from a shell on alice)?
[03:46] <nickrud> keevie, ok, put a copy of /var/lib/dpkg/info/ca-certificates-java.postinst  on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:47] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: It should create a proper partition, and then let you install it as a separate partition, rather than running it inside the windows partition
[03:47] <mzz> trwww: or sftp if you prefer, all obviously assuming you have a shell on alice)
[03:47] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7: i'm working on geting so i dont depend on windows, but i still depend on it slightly ... and would like both OS's .... i COULD instal windows in a VM i understand after doing ubuntu first but that cuts resources right?
[03:47] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: Could you try a Chkdsk /r on the main boot parition
[03:48] <houstond> ok so noob question here, I've downloaded an application  .bin to be exact, how do i install it?
[03:48] <houstond> :-D
[03:48] <keevie> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117119/
[03:48] <keevie> houstond, first do chmod +x app.bin, then do ./app.bin and follow instructions
[03:48] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7: trying
[03:48] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: As long as you are not running a game inside a VM, you should be fine
[03:49] <trygg> Is there some alternative to synaptic package manager?
[03:49] <sileni> hmm the new firefox starts in fullscreen every single time, and i have to press f11 twice to get it to normal. Does anyone know where the config file for firefox is so i can make it start normal everytime
[03:49] <theUg> Hi all. Is there a normal solution to keyring password problem when auto log-in?
[03:49] <mzz> linuxnooooob: recommend you don't run random stuff you downloaded as root though (more often than not there are packages you can use instead)
[03:49] <nickrud> keevie, ok, I'd suggest putting   exit 0   on line 4, just below set -e . then run sudo apt-get -f install . Once it completes,  sudo apt-get purge ca-certificates-java
[03:49] <RussM> Logikos, What do you use Windows for? That might determine whether Windows in a VM would be sufficient. It is for me.
[03:49] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7 says 'chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by anouther process. ... i can scedual it to do it on a reboot?
[03:49] <mzz> sileni: that may be stored in localstore.rdf (under ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default)
[03:49] <Titan8990> sileni, if im not mistaken, that is a bug with compiz
[03:49] <Marsjanin> trygg: apt-get ?
[03:49] <mib_lkgyn7> Logikos: Yes please
[03:49] <trygg> yeah, i meant a gui ;)
[03:50] <sileni> Titan8990: hmm, is there a fix for this bug?
[03:50] <trygg> dont really know how to search
[03:50] <theUg> trygg: Add/Remove programs?
[03:50] <Titan8990> sileni, unsure, only effects some people, I would search the forums because that is where I have seen it
[03:50] <linuxnooooob> um apparently i did something wrong keevie  says no such file or directory
[03:50] <mzz> RussM: for pretty much everything that isn't a game I think a vm is not just sufficient but superior :)
[03:50] <Logikos> RussM: ms excell (there are some things that open office just doesnt do right :\ ) ... and paint shop pro  are what i switch over to windows for ... i just havent figured gimp out yet .. and psp just doesnt run right in wine
[03:50] <Baatti> I'm trying to mount my cellphone as a volume, running Ubuntu 8.10....when I connect the phone (via usb), linux recognizes it as a Broadband Connection, but I can't view the volume. I can only configure a broadband connection. Anyone have ideas on how I can just mount the phone as a volume?
[03:50] <keevie> linuxnooooob, yeah, you have to replace app.bin with the actual filename. . .
[03:50] <linuxnooooob> um i did that :-) lolz
[03:51] <Logikos> mib_lkgyn7 k, i'll reboot and do that russ: i'll check your responce when i get back
[03:51] <mzz> linuxnooooob: also have to be in the directory that file is (not sure if "cd /path/to/that/file" was included)
[03:51] <Logikos> mzz: your saying a VM is beter than windows OS by itself? ... what about ram?
[03:51] <RussM> Logikos, Unless you're crunching an extremely complicated spreadsheet, I'm pretty sure a VM could handle running Excel just fine.
[03:51] <theUg> Anyone knows about keyring password prompt problem?
[03:51] <Logikos> i have 1.5 GB of ram
[03:51] <keevie> nickrud, okay, i did that, and it seemed to work. now i should probably change some stuff back? i doubt that script was completely useless
[03:51] <Marsjanin> Anybody knows how to unpack a multipart zip (z01, z02...zip), please?
[03:51] <Logikos> ubuntu was useing just under .8
[03:52] <mzz> Logikos: ah, yes, you need a bit of ram. Not as much as I initially thought though, because apparently the drivers for the virtual sound and graphics are smaller than the (windows) drivers for the actual hardware.
[03:53] <Logikos> RussM: what about psp ... will psp be able to take screen shots from apps loaded in ubuntu? or are the OS's seperate like with windows virtual pc ... clipboard doesnt transfer etc?
[03:53] <RussM> mzz, I'm with you. I'm very happy with VMs.
[03:53] <mib_lkgyn7> So, who was asking about multipartÉ
[03:53] <mzz> Logikos: clipboard should transfer. You can also share folders from the host to the guest.
[03:53] <nickrud> keevie, you can try running the install again, you know how to back out of a failed install now. But I'd look over the bug report, see if it has a workaround, if you really need those certs
[03:53] <mzz> Logikos: so you can just use an ubuntu screenshot app and save the screenshot in a directory the guest sees.
[03:53] <linuxnooooob> so yeah i've made sure i had the right path and all, not sure what im doing wrong
[03:53] <mib_lkgyn7> Marsjanin: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-952119.html
[03:54] <mzz> Logikos: (I haven't used the clipboard transfer for anything but text, I think)
[03:54] <Logikos> mzz: well i have other partitions ... in /media on ubuntu ... the windows inside the VM would have access to those partitions as D:\ and E:\ etc right?
[03:54] <keevie> nickrud, alright, thanks muchly. i doubt i would have found that on my own
[03:54] <mzz> linuxnooooob: try to tab-complete the filename and dir to make sure you get them right
[03:54] <nickrud> keevie, doing the purge undid anything that script would have done, so you're back to a state as if you'd never installed it (I think that's what you were really asking)
[03:54] <mzz> Logikos: if you want them to be.
[03:54] <Titan8990> Logikos, not without special configuration
[03:54] <RussM> Logikos, I don't know if you'll be able to cut/paste more than text... it may depend on the VM you pick, too.
[03:54] <sileni> Titan8990: ah yes, it has not been fixed yet. Thank you for letting me now. I'm probably going to revert back to older and stabler version of firefox
[03:54] <Baatti> I'm trying to mount my cellphone as a volume, running Ubuntu 8.10....when I connect the phone (via usb), linux recognizes it as a Broadband Connection, but I can't view the volume. I can only configure a broadband connection. Anyone have ideas on how I can just mount the phone as a volume?
[03:54] <Titan8990> Logikos, and it is considered dangerous, easier to host them via ftp or scp on the host machine
[03:54] <RussM> Logikos, psp?
[03:55] <mzz> Logikos: the vm doesn't look at the actual on-disk partitions. You can just share one or more actual host directories, which the guest sees as network filesystems.
[03:55] <linuxnooooob> tab-complete the file name? and dir to make sure i got them right?
[03:55] <Logikos> Titan8990: i'm more concerned about resource sharing ... for example, i plug my flash drive into the pc ... ubuntu will see it ... will windows see it inside the VM ?
[03:55] <Titan8990> sileni, good to hear you found what you were looking for
[03:55] <piti__> ikonia: thanks for your help yesterday
[03:55] <mzz> Logikos: afaik this is pretty safe as long as you're selective in what you share.
[03:55] <Marsjanin> mib_lkgyn7: I just did that in few steps, now I try run cat with all files as a parametest like there was.
[03:55] <Draken> hi im running kbuntu and I cant figure out why I have no screen savers I have random and blank why is that?
[03:55] <Logikos> RussM: Paint Shop Pro ... i'm not a photo shop fan ... i like psp beter
[03:55] <Titan8990> Logikos, no, but it will with additional configuration, you can mount usb drives in your vm
[03:56] <mzz> Logikos: windows doesn't see your host usb devices (unless you explicitly configure this, which is only useful for devices you don't have host drivers for)
[03:56] <mzz> Logikos: the vm won't see the actual flash drive, but if you mount the flash drive below a directory that's shared with the guest it'll see its contents just fine
[03:56] <RussM> Logikos, Oh, sorry, I don't use it.
[03:56] <sagredo> since I updated to 8.10 expose crashes compizfusion
[03:56] <sagredo> what gives!!!
[03:57] <linuxnooooob> so yeah totally lost
[03:57] <Logikos> Titan8990: mzz: RussM: if i 'share' /media ... so long as i've opened it in ubuntu and therefore ubuntu auto mounts it under /media ... the windows will be able to access it as a network drive .. do i understand this correctly?
[03:57] <mzz> Logikos: yep.
[03:58] <n1ghtcrwler> How do I delete the Windows partition on my computer to run ubuntu exclusively?
[03:58] <mzz> Logikos: windows has no clue the stuff below /media/ is actually on different drives. It just sees all of /media as a regular network share.
[03:58] <Logikos> understood
[03:58] <Jaan|Perfect> is there any software wich collates details of my hardware devices and send report and let me know whether hardware is supported and drivers are available
[03:58] <mzz> Logikos: (I'm talking about VirtualBox, but this should be very similar in other vm software)
[03:58] <Logikos> as long as the directory names are unique enough to identify what i'm dealing with
[03:58] <RussM> Logikos, the actual mechanism for sharing files differs a bit between VMs, but yes, you can usually make any part of the host filesystem available to the guest.
[03:58] <Logikos> which i presume are the device lables
[03:58] <Titan8990> Logikos, they can be whatever you want them to be
[03:59] <mzz> Logikos: and you *can* probably give the vm access to the raw partition too, but that's usually less convenient (because you can't do the same from the host at the same time, they'd stomp on each other)
[03:59] <Baatti> n1ghtcrwler, just boot your computer from the cd, and chose to install Ubuntu..when the partitioner asks you how you want to partition, chose GUIDED FULL
[03:59] <Logikos> alright, great ... is .5GB RAM alocation enough for XP + MS Office + Paint Shop Pro ?
[03:59] <Logikos> i know that it is 'enough to get buy'
[03:59] <Logikos> but ...
[03:59] <Logikos> by*
[04:00] <linuxnooooob> still cant install the damn thing
[04:00] <mzz> Logikos: I haven't used PSP enough to answer that. I'd expect it to be quite sufficient for office.
[04:00] <RussM> Logikos,  I wish I had PSP to try it.
[04:00] <nickrud> linuxnooooob, what exactly are you trying to install anyway?
[04:00] <Logikos> psp has ALOT less overhead that adobe photoshop
[04:00] <trwww> mzz: thanks!
[04:00] <Logikos> i'd estamate half
[04:00] <keevie> time to tell him to use apt :D
[04:00] <n1ghtcrwler> Baatti: that's a bit of a problem.  For some reason, my cd drive won't acknowledge the ubuntu cd.  I had to extract it to the desktop and install it from there.  The install worked, but now I'm stuck with the partitions
[04:00] <linuxnooooob> Planeshift.   game  its a .bin
[04:00] <nickrud> keevie, that's where I hoped it would go :)
[04:00] <linuxnooooob> have it downloaded to desktop
[04:00] <RussM> Logikos, I just went with Gimp - it's not as "pretty", perhaps, but it does what I want.
[04:01] <Titan8990> Logikos, 512mb might be pushing it for all those apps at the same time
[04:01] <Logikos> eventualy i pray i'll be free from my windows dependancy but ... i'm working on it lol
[04:01] <nickrud> linuxnooooob, sudo ~/Desktop/<planeshiftfilename>
[04:01] <Titan8990> Logikos, I always found 1gb to be ideal for xp
[04:01] <Titan8990> Logikos, but yes, you will get by
[04:01] <sileni> ephiphany is still as powerful as firefox is correct?
[04:01] <Baatti> n1ghtcrwler, did you mount the .iso file on the disk as an image?
[04:02] <Logikos> RussM: i tryed Gimp several times ... it takes me to long to do the things i need to do ... several things i cant figure out how to make it do .. but i cant figure out how to make photoshop do it either and ppl love photoshop ... its just i hate graphic design but i have to do it some times ... and i dont want to invest the time into switching programs ?
[04:02] <mzz> Logikos: oh, yes, I was interpreting that as one office app or psp at a time
[04:02] <n1ghtcrwler> Baatti: yep.  And all my roommates' computers recognize it for what it should be.  Just not mine (which I presume has something to do with the host of problems that encouraged me to drop Windows in the first place)
[04:02] <mzz> Logikos: keep in mind that you'll probably end up installing fewer drivers and background utilities on the vm
[04:02] <Logikos> Titan8990: i agree .. but i think ubuntu as the primary OS containing the VM needs more than .5 GB and i cant aford to upgrade my ram :\
[04:03] <Baatti> n1ghtcrwler, hrm, I know a few people who've had similar problems. I unfortunately don't have the expertise to assist you further. Just keep asking around here and I'm sure someone who CAN help will
[04:03] <Baatti> sorry
[04:03] <mzz> Logikos: also, you can usually play with the ram allocation a bit with just reboots of the vm, so you can find a sweet spot somewhere between .5G and 1G if necessary
[04:03] <linuxnooooob> usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v
[04:03] <linuxnooooob> usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value]
[04:03] <linuxnooooob>             {-i | -s | <command>}
[04:03] <linuxnooooob> usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file ...
[04:03] <jaxx2kde> I am trying to install b43-fwcutter and I downloaded and extracted the tarball but when i cd to the directory and go "make" it gives me a "make: Nothing to be done for `all'." error
[04:03] <Logikos> that nice guy who was trying to research how to solve my problem no longer seems to be here mib_something
[04:03] <Titan8990> Logikos, no, it will run fine, windows uses virtual memory similar to linux swap
[04:03] <RussM> Logikos, I understand. I love Gimp because it's powerful enough for me, available on Linux and Windows, and scriptable. But believe me, I know it's not easy to learn a new model.
[04:04] <Ryan_Chau> hey
[04:04] <Ryan_Chau> i had a quick question
[04:04] <Ryan_Chau> does anyone know if there is a chinese vrsion of ubuntu
[04:04] <Titan8990> !pastebin | linuxnooooob
[04:04] <mzz> jaxx2kde: that sounds like you missed a ./configure (so there's no Makefile yet)
[04:04] <n1ghtcrwler> Baatti: that's fine.  But I have another problem, do you know how to get it to let me turn on my wireless receiver?  It's an old Gateway, and the only way to turn it on that I know of is Fn+F2.  The ubuntu doesn't appear to recognize the command.
[04:05] <Marsjanin> multipart ZIP problem: the zip -F archive.zip did the trick. Thanks.
[04:05] <redvamp128> jaxx2kde:  why not just install the deb - I found one for all distro's on packages Ubuntu -- Package Search Results -- b43-fwcutter <http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=b43-fwcutter+&amp;searchon=names&amp;suite=all&amp;section=all>
[04:05] <Baatti> n1ghtcrwler, that I'm not sure of either. I've never used a Gateway laptop...on my laptop I have a little switch button
[04:06] <sagredo> what gives!!!
[04:06] <sagredo> since I updated to 8.10 expose crashes compizfusion
[04:06] <learning> anyone have scripts/software for 29/36 stuff?
[04:06] <n1ghtcrwler> Baatti: heh, yeah, my old one had that.  Much easier.  Alright, thanks anyway!
[04:06] <mzz> learning: for what?
[04:06] <Logikos> Titan8990:, mzz, RussM, anyone i missed: thanks for all the info and all the help ... i was really hopeing to recover my ubuntu partition but no one seems to have a clue how to do that ... thankfuly i didnt save much inside that actual partition .. i'll reboot for the chkdsk /r now
[04:06] <Logikos> bbl
[04:06] <linuxnooooob> um still lost
[04:06] <Baatti> n1ghtcrwler, SORRY i couldn't be more help. Good luck, and don't give up
[04:06] <redvamp128> jaxx2kde:  was that the correct program you wanted to install ? ? Ubuntu -- Package Search Results -- b43-fwcutter <http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=b43-fwcutter+&amp;searchon=names&amp;suite=all&amp;section=all>
[04:07] <Titan8990> Logikos, you didn't ask about recovering a ubuntu partition?
[04:07] <mzz> heh
[04:07] <mzz> redvamp128++
[04:07] <n1ghtcrwler> alright.  Does anyone know how to delete the Windows partition after installing intrepid that doesn't involve the ubuntu boot disk?
[04:07] <Titan8990> ....
[04:08] <jaxx2kde> mzz, redvamp128: i am trying to install the b43 drivers for my broadcom so that i can patch them in order to use aircrack
[04:08] <Titan8990> n1ghtcrwler, fdisk
[04:08] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, if you don't mind keeping the partition *SPACE*, you can just format it as ext3 or something
[04:08] <RussM> Titan8990, I think the question was way - way back.
[04:08] <jaxx2kde> it says right now that i am running some "wl" driver
[04:08] <redvamp128> jaxx2kde:  Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware 	 fwcutter is a tool which can extract firmware from various source files. It's written for BCM43xx driver files.
[04:09] <n1ghtcrwler> Titan8990: where's that?  rdw200169: I really would like to just dump it altogether
[04:09] <learning> i've half a mind to join a club and beat you with it
[04:09] <jaxx2kde> yes.. i have a BCM4311
[04:09] <Ryan_Chau> does anyone know if there is a chinese version of ubuntu?
[04:09] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, the best thing for you is gparted, it's a graphical partition manager
[04:09] <Baatti> Ryan_Chau, can't you just chose chinese as your native language when installing?
[04:10] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, it's always... ALWAYS... dangerous to try what you are talking about, i.e. resizing your linux partition to fill the space that windows once filled
[04:10] <rainbowinfinity> can anyone help me adjust the settings for folding@home?..it runs all the time and i'm afraid of killing my puter
[04:10] <ashlessburn> rainbow why are u adjusting setting
[04:10] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, especially if you want (or need) to keep the information on your linux side intact
[04:10] <trwww> I have a question about the .screenrc file... namely, the screen statement syntax. At
[04:10] <n1ghtcrwler> rdw200269: is that available on the Add/Remove Applications thing, or no?  And what's dangerous about it?
[04:10] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, you can also screw up the boot manager... among other things
[04:10] <trwww> http://magazine.redhat.com/2007/09/27/a-guide-to-gnu-screen/
[04:10] <n1ghtcrwler> ah
[04:10] <trwww> it gives the example:
[04:11] <trwww> screen -t NameOfScreen ScreenNumber ShellCommand
[04:11] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, just search for gparted in synaptic
[04:11] <trwww> but for ShellCommand, it dosent seem that I can put arbitrary commands in there.
[04:11] <rainbowinfinity> it seems to run constantly and I'm afraid it's going to kill my processor or something
[04:11] <trwww> for example, for:
[04:11] <trwww> screen -t prod1  4 cd /usr/prod
[04:11] <trwww> cannot exec 'cd' no such file or directory
[04:11] <trwww> does anyone know where I can find some documentation for ShellCommand?
[04:12] <n1ghtcrwler> rdw200269: well, crap.  I really wanna free up that memory space, I don't have a whole lot to be splitting between the two, you know?  What's the likelyhood, do you think, of wrecking ubuntu in the process?
[04:12] <ashlessburn> umm unless u are running root or a specefic install u should be good im not quite understanding why u are tryign to modifiy thoguh
[04:12] <mzz> trwww: "cd" is a shell builtin (it has to be)
[04:12] <usser> rainbowinfinity, its supposed to run constantly, you basically donating your cpu time, your computer was designed to run constantly, it cant kill it by loading the processor with tasks
[04:12]  * mzz wonders if there's special syntax to start a process in a different initial dir
[04:12]  * mzz checks
[04:12] <zcat[1]> rainbowinfinity: that's how it works.. if you don't like having a program that uses 100% of your 'spare processing power' why did you install one?
[04:12] <trwww> so I cant use shell builtins in SHellCommand
[04:12] <trwww> ?
[04:12] <linuxnooooob> thank you nickrud your the man
[04:12] <rainbowinfinity> but the fan runs constantly since I installed it, even while I'm working on it, and it never used to
[04:13] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, if you try resizing, the problems would be several-fold; consequentially, you can't run ubuntu of that partition while attempting a resize operation
[04:13] <nickrud> linuxnooooob, yw
[04:13] <RussM> trwww, even if you did use cd, the shell would then end.
[04:13] <zcat[1]> rainbowinfinity: es. exactly. That's what happens when you're constantly using 100% of available processing power
[04:13] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, so you would likely have to use the gparted livecd
[04:13] <Zencyde> Hey, I'm having trouble the the GNOME clock applet. Whenever I try to set the system time, it starts up the Compiz benchmark. I've since disabled the benchmark and the application kills itself upon entering my password. Anyone care to help?
[04:13] <RussM> trwww, Do you just want to have the screen session started, but be in a particular directory?
[04:13] <XDS2010> Small Question:  Can 'vmalloc=xxxM' be initiated at the boot command level  ?
[04:14] <rainbowinfinity> i want it to use all of my processor...when i'm not using it, i want to set it up so it works while i'm not working
[04:14] <mzz> trwww: look for the "chdir" command in the manual
[04:14] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, that, and with 2 separate partitions, you *could* do a very smart thing (for the future) and assign the /home directory to that space
[04:14] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, then, if you want to re-install ubuntu, you can keep your /home folder where all your personal configurations and files reside
[04:14] <redvamp128> Zencyde:  why not just turn compiz off then set clock- System- preferences then appearance -- then visual effects turn them off
[04:14] <darksmurf> I am running intrepid on a dell mini9. I have no swap space. I have been reading about how to use s2disk with a swap file that is activated right before hibernating and deactivated after resuming. I am able to execute 's2disk', hibernate and resume with no real problems. How can I make gnome's 'hibernate' option from the Shut down menu execute s2disk, or a custom script?
[04:14] <n1ghtcrwler> rdw200169: which likely wouldn't work, as my computer is being very finnicky about what disks it reads.  Ah, well, I'll just delete as much of the Windows stuff as I can to free up space, leave the partition.  How do I make ubuntu the primary boot?
[04:15] <mzz> trwww: alternatively, use "sh -c 'insert shell here'" in the command
[04:15] <mzz> trwww: chdir is much more convenient for this particular case though
[04:15] <trwww> > (11:12:07 PM) mzz: trwww: "cd" is a shell builtin (it has to be)
[04:15] <trwww> yeah it was suprising! I thought I knew linux pretty well, but when I did a 'which cd' it didnt find it
[04:15] <Zencyde> You know, I don't think the issue is with Compiz. :(
[04:15] <trwww> I figrured it was in memory and called something else on disk
[04:15] <trwww> no biggie... but right now I /am/ trying to figure out how that relates to commands in the .screenrc file
[04:15] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, why do you say it wouldn't work?  how is ubuntu installed right now?  you did a normal install, right? i.e. not wubi?
[04:15] <Zencyde> Also, I'd rather avoid having to deal with killing and starting new processes. :P Got any advice that doesn't require that?
[04:15] <mzz> trwww: processes run *by* your interactive shell can't change its environment or working directory.
[04:16] <RussM> trwww, Environment things (like current work directory) are inherited by child processes.... but what happens in the child process doesn't affect the parent process.
[04:16] <mzz> trwww: if "cd" was not a builtin it'd run, change its own working directory, then exit.
[04:16] <trwww> mzz: cool thx
[04:16] <trwww> ah... that I do understand
[04:16] <trwww> mzz+++++
[04:16] <RussM> trwww, So, if you started a child process (that is, cd) it would affect that child process, but then exit.
[04:16] <mzz> trwww: (or you'd have to use it like the "env" command: run it, change directory, then have it exec a new shell. That's pretty daft though)
[04:16] <mzz> heh
[04:16] <n1ghtcrwler> rdw200169: I downloaded the disc image, extracted it to the desktop, and ran it from there.  The (3) cd's I made of it, while all work fine when I checked them (without installing them) on my roommates' computers, mine wouldn't even acknowledge the disc had anything on it
[04:17] <mzz> RussM: sorry, missed your reply
[04:17] <rainbowinfinity> zcat[1].. i understand the point of f@h...i've been running it on my ps3 for over a year, but even when i ran it on windows, i had the option to let it work while i was not...all i want is that option
[04:17] <mzz> would've kept my mouth shut otherwise :)
[04:17] <trwww> no biggie... I understand now... its similar to changing an environment var in a script. When the script exits, the value is gone.
[04:17] <darksmurf> n1ghtcrwler, when I see that problem (and I have, many times) it usually ends up being a bad cdrom drive.
[04:17] <RussM> mzz, np, I was typing heads down too. ;)
[04:17] <[PRO]Lifixs> I used to have an icon configured to toggle root access, but i forgot the command i used. Anyone have any idea what I could use?
[04:17] <mzz> trwww: same thing happens when you change the groups your user is in and don't log out and back in
[04:17] <iShock> Would you guys suggest Wubi or vmware for installing ubuntu if I'm unable to partition my HD?
[04:18] <RussM> trwww, So, what's the end result you want? I'm sure there's a way to get there.
[04:18] <rdw200169> n1ghtcrwler, you don't even have ubuntu installed?
[04:18] <Zencyde> Okay, I just turned off Compiz. Same problem as before. It kills itself upon finishing my password.
[04:18] <n1ghtcrwler> darksmurf: except that it reads audio cd's (and the apps on some of them) just fine
[04:18] <darksmurf> [PRO]Lifixs, toggle it how? in a shell?
[04:18] <Wee> would anyone happen to know of an easy-to-use (easy-to-use, as in, my grandma should be able to use it) screenshot utility that offers the ability the ability to select/draw the focused to-be-shot recatange-area?
[04:18] <n1ghtcrwler> rdw200169: yeah, I'm talking to you from the ubuntu partition that I installed that way.  The install worked fine by that method, I just have the partitions to deal with now
[04:18] <rdw200169> Wee, you should just hit the screenshot key!
[04:18] <Zencyde> What's the GNOME clock applet called, anyway? Maybe reinstalling or doing a dpkg configure would help?
[04:18] <[PRO]Lifixs> Like on the desktop on the panel.
[04:18] <darksmurf> n1ghtcrwler, did that drive burn the disks? has that drive ever been able to read burned disks from the drive you used?
[04:19] <rdw200169> Wee, i.e. Print Screen
[04:19] <rdw200169> Wee, go ahead, try it!
[04:19] <trwww> RussM: I'd like to do 'cd /usr/prod' as ShellCommand in the .screenrc entry 'screen -t NameOfScreen ScreenNumber ShellCommand'
[04:19] <iShock> Would you guys suggest Wubi or vmware for installing ubuntu if I'm unable to partition my HD?
[04:19] <Jim_Raynor> anyone knows how can i get podcast from itunes?
[04:19] <Wee> rdw200169, yes.. but that doesn't allow me to draw a triangle for selection (I don't want to ss the whole screen)
[04:19] <darksmurf> n1ghtcrwler, just trying to give you ideas.
[04:19] <Wee> s/triangle/rectangle
[04:19] <RussM> trwww, But you want to end up at a bash prompt, right?
[04:19] <rakudave> iShock: wubi, vmware will slow things down considerably
[04:20] <iShock> rakudave, how so
[04:20] <trwww> yep... in the directory /usr/prod
[04:20] <n1ghtcrwler> darksmurf: no, I burned it from my roommate's computer because my Windows was having a stack of problems.  I assume one of these is involved in it's inability to read burned discs, which it used to do just fine
[04:20] <rdw200169> Wee, well, the old windows rules apply, try Alt + Print Screen
[04:20] <redvamp128> Zencyde:  I did find this how to set it command prompt
[04:20] <rdw200169> Wee, that gets the active window instead of the whole desktop
[04:20] <Wee> rdw200169, that captures the focused window - I would prefer capturing a focused area as selected by designating a certain area myself with some sort of a selection tool
[04:20] <redvamp128> Zencyde:  Manage Time in Ubuntu Through Command Line « Code Ghar <http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/manage-time-in-ubuntu-through-command-line/>
[04:20] <n1ghtcrwler> darksmurf: but, that's not that big of a problem, I can live with the partitions if I have to, and ubuntu is working fine.  I just wanted to get rid of it if I could
[04:20] <rakudave> iShock: it takes alot of comuting power to emulate a virtual pc plus the host system, so there won't be too much left for ubuntu itself
[04:21] <rdw200169> Wee, you're making this really difficult!... you can use f-spot for simple picture editing
[04:21] <ammagendut> how to open the source list and replace the original source?
[04:21] <darksmurf> n1ghtcrwler, try installing from a USB drive? 8.10 has a neat little program that will create a liveusb stick. The same program can be installed from 8.04.
[04:21] <Wee> rdw200169, ..actually, this is for my very irritated computer-illeterate mate, who insists on getting that functionality. sorry ;\
[04:22] <rdw200169> Wee, i don't even think windows can do that, but i don't know
[04:22] <darksmurf> n1ghtcrwler, it is under System:Administration
[04:22] <Zencyde> Ack..shit. Disabling Compiz and reenabling it disabled all of my settings.
[04:22] <[PRO]Lifixs> DarkSmurf - It was a button on the panel
[04:22] <rainbowinfinity> okay, so if no one can help me edit the settings for folding at home, can you help me uninstall it...i'll just run it on ps3
[04:22] <n1ghtcrwler> darksmurf: I have not tried that yet, but I was looking into getting one so I could.  Right now, my only flash drive is filled up with homework stuff that I need to transfer over
[04:22] <Wee> rdw200169, oh.. he SHOWED me the program on windows that could do it.. he simply hits the screenshot button.. and after a few seconds his mouse cursor turns into a selection tool.. he selects it, and it's on the clipboard..
[04:22] <Titan8990> Zencyde, yep, but supossidly there is a on-off button you can get for it that will not do that
[04:22] <rakudave> ammagendut: system--admin--sources or in a terminal "sudo gedit /etc/atp/sources.list"
[04:23] <redvamp128> Zencyde:  I did find a way to set it through prompt-- http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/manage-time-in-ubuntu-through-command-line/
[04:23] <Zencyde> Christ.. and I had it perfectly set up.
[04:23] <Titan8990> Zencyde, I always just used seperate users for compiz and no compiz
[04:23] <Zencyde> :(
[04:23] <Zencyde> Bleh..
[04:23] <Zencyde> This pisses me off.
[04:23] <Zencyde> I swear, I spent an hour setting it.
[04:23] <Titan8990> Zencyde, also, if you do:   metacity --replace
[04:23] <darksmurf> [PRO]Lifixs, hmm. try looking at gksu, gksudo ?
[04:23] <ammagendut> thanks rakudave
[04:23] <Titan8990> Zencyde, to turn off compiz instead of using the gnome GUI it may save your settings....
[04:23] <Zencyde> Haha, yeah. :( I just used what the person earlier said. I shouldn't have listened, though. I knew the problem wasn't with Compiz...
[04:23] <redvamp128> Zencyde:  I don't have that issue -- I use compiz-switch to turn compiz on and off and it saves settings always for me
[04:24] <Baatti> How can I mount my cellphone (LG3500) as a volume, and not have Ubuntu auto-detect it as a Broadband connection?
[04:24] <RussM> trwww, Make a quick script file up... call it "myscript", put ". ~/.bashrc; cd /usr/prod" in it. Then run "screen bash --init-file myscript"
[04:24] <n1ghtcrwler> But the other problem, the one I'm actually more concerned about, is this: My wireless receiver won't turn on.  This is a Gateway, and instead of having a nice switch I have to hit the function key+F2.  But the ubuntu doesn't appear to recognize this command
[04:24] <redvamp128> Zencyde:  I was only going by what you gave me about the benchmark starting-- when you goto set time
[04:24] <rdw200169> Wee, perhaps you should tell your very-irritated friend to do the same thing he did on windows to find the app, use google: https://launchpad.net/shutter
[04:24] <darksmurf> n1ghtcrwler, try installing aircraft manager
[04:24] <ammagendut> rakudave: my source list is empty, how can fullfill it?
[04:25] <n1ghtcrwler> darksmurf: alright, cool.  Is that in the Add/Remove Programs list, or should I look for it online?
[04:25] <Titan8990> ammagendut, ask for someones here....
[04:25] <ammagendut> i want to insert new source but i found error like this sudo wget http://blog.myfenris.net/files/myoss/ubuntu/mmu.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mmu.list
[04:25] <RussM> trwww, screen will run the command "bash", bash will read myscript as its init-file, causing it to run the normal startup and then cd into the target directory, voila
[04:25] <rakudave> ammagendut: just add the line of a repository you want to add, such as "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main"
[04:25] <Wee> rdw200169, I'll tell him to apt-get it, hopefully it's a good solution. thank you for the time :)
[04:25] <darksmurf> n1ghtcrwler, I would look in the synaptic package manager. It has a larger list than Add/Remove
[04:26] <n1ghtcrwler> darksmurf: alright, cool.  I'll check that out.
[04:26] <Zencyde> Haha, yeah. I guess I should have been more specific, first. Thanks for the advice on where to find those config files. I can just fuck with the NTP settings there.
[04:26] <trwww> RussM: hrm.... that would mean all shells in the screen instance start at /usr/prod. I may want another one that sits at /usr/stage.
[04:26] <rdw200169> Wee, it won't be in the repo's, he has to use the PPA's, check the link i gave you, all the instructions are there pertaining to its usage and installation
[04:27] <RussM> trwww, You'd need a different "myscript" for each target directory.
[04:27] <Jim_Raynor> i guess that nobody knows, then...
[04:27] <Wee> rdw200169, pardon my ignorance, what's PPA?
[04:28] <rdw200169> Wee, personal repositories hosted on launchpad, you add the personal repo to apt, and then it will update correctly, etc...
[04:29] <Zencyde> Can I get the current time from anyone using NTP?
[04:29] <RussM> trwww, to simplify, you could make a shell alias or a script file up that runs screen with the appropriate arguments.
[04:29] <ashlessburn> jim_raynor
[04:29] <ashlessburn> what is ur question
[04:29] <Jim_Raynor> anyone knows how can i get podcast from itunes?
[04:29] <learning> jim raynor? starcraft?
[04:29] <ashlessburn> using?
[04:29] <cirkit> I've installed mysql but it is missing from /usr/bin. I 'grep'd for the mysql bin file on the system and it could not be found. Any ideas how to retrieve the binary even after re-installing mysql through apt-get / source ?
[04:29] <learning> forget the meaning of the name..
[04:29] <Titan8990> learning, lol im sure
[04:29] <Jim_Raynor> erm... Ubuntu?
[04:29] <RussM> trwww, I have some aliases for starting screen up with particular ssh commands, etc.
[04:29] <Wee> rdw200169, alright, I'll see what I can do (I'll have to do it for him ;\) thanks for you help and time! good night
[04:29] <Zencyde> No one here is using NTP? You're kidding...
[04:30] <IntuitiveNipple> cirkit: try "which mysql"
[04:30] <mzz> cirkit: wild guess: you installed the daemon but not the client
[04:30] <rdw200169> Wee, well, i tried it, and it works very well; easy too
[04:30] <ashlessburn> .04 or 8.10no duh ...but what type of ubuntu ...32 bit 64 bit....8/
[04:30] <rainbowinfinity> can anyone help me uninstall folding@home
[04:30] <mzz> Zencyde: does openntpd count?
[04:31] <Zencyde> Close enough, mzz. :)
[04:31] <Jim_Raynor> Intrepid x86
[04:31] <ashlessburn> thank you
[04:31] <ashlessburn> one sec
[04:31] <Wee> rdw200169, fantastic, great to hear :) thanks again
[04:31] <kert> Hi  i have a  problem with network , please  read  it here  http://pastebin.com/m3b8771ec   and give me suggestions  or  help...? I am using Ubuntu 8.10
[04:31] <ashlessburn> i tunes is a apple based app right?
[04:31] <mzz> ashlessburn: yes (like the majority of iBlah apps)
[04:31] <ashlessburn> theyhavnt came for supprt for the 2.6 kernel yet
[04:31] <trwww> RussM: very clean. nice. RussM++
[04:31] <linxuz3r> anyone a kde user here?
[04:32] <Zencyde> Pst, mzz. Post your current time? :o Pretty please? :)
[04:32] <Flannel> !anyone | linxuz3r
[04:32] <IndyGunFreak> /msg ubottu kde
[04:32] <mzz> Thu Feb 12 04:32:13 UTC 2009
[04:32] <Flannel> Zencyde: This really isn't the place for that.
[04:32] <sagredo> since I updated to 8.10 expose crashes compizfusion
[04:32] <Zencyde> Awesome. Thanks. :)
[04:32] <sagredo> what gives!!!
[04:32] <mzz> Zencyde: that ^^^ was /exec -o date -u
[04:32] <linxuz3r>  i am at kde4 how do i change the look of the taskbar
[04:32] <Zencyde> Haha, I just wanted to confirm that my NTP settings were working correctly. :)
[04:33] <mzz> Zencyde: (I missed the question other than that you wanted someone with ntp installed...)
[04:33] <ashlessburn> jim u there?
[04:33] <Zencyde> Ah, that's fine. All is well now. I guess it's time to idle and prepare for my physics test tomorrow...
[04:34] <ashlessburn> jim_raynor are u there
[04:34] <Jim_Raynor> yes
[04:34] <ashlessburn> pri me
[04:34] <Jim_Raynor> still waiting
[04:34] <mzz> trwww, RussM: I'd prefer the bash equivalent to "python -i -c 'insert code here'", but I don't know if it has that
[04:34] <ashlessburn> mzz do me a favor send me a msg
[04:34] <RORgasm> guys what is kvm?
[04:34] <Flannel> !kvm | RORgasm
[04:35] <RORgasm> is it similar to virtual box or vmware server?
[04:35] <RORgasm> i've used both virtualbox and vmware server
[04:35] <mzz> RORgasm: yes, but iirc kvm just does linux on linux currently
[04:35] <ashlessburn> titan u as well my irc just took a dump
[04:35] <mzz> RORgasm: oh, also freebsd apparently
[04:35] <RORgasm> wait what?
[04:35] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Reverend Lovejoy
[04:35] <mzz> RORgasm: ignore me, I'm full of crap
[04:35] <linxuz3r>  i am at kde4 how do i change the look of the taskbar????????????????????????????????
[04:35] <mzz> RORgasm: read the wikipedia page instead
[04:35] <linxuz3r> sorry
[04:35] <IntuitiveNipple> RORgasm: Similar, but often faster. It is based on QEMU but for x86/x86_64 only, and runs as many instructions as possible on the processor itself without emulation
[04:36] <bazgee3> Everyone check out my new forum! Its full of great people and great things to do with your spare time. http://www.livemayhem.com
[04:36] <ashlessburn> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[04:36] <RORgasm> IntuitiveNipple, oh
[04:36] <IntuitiveNipple> RORgasm: kvm is very good. I use it routinely for Linux and Windows
[04:36] <RORgasm> IntuitiveNipple, so i can run windows on KVM instead of virtualbox? it will porbably run better on KVM??
[04:37] <mzz> IntuitiveNipple: and you can windows as guest on a host without native virtualization support in the cpu?
[04:37] <IntuitiveNipple> RORgasm: XP runs pretty good in my experience
[04:37] <rakudave> !kde | linxuz3r
[04:37] <luddite> hi - i am running off a usb install. 8.10. and on my gf's ASUS lappy. The Fn key is permanently on making typing hell. How do i remove this. [h5 - 5 a0 r4nn5ng 6ff a 4sb 5nsta33. and 6n 0y gf's ASS 3a--y] <- Thats when i type without hold5ng the Fn key on.
[04:37] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ^ Anyone happen to know how to fix that by any chance? :/
[04:37] <IntuitiveNipple> mzz: No, KVM uses the hardware VT support in Intel/AMD CPUs
[04:37] <mzz> drat
[04:37] <mzz> I *knew* there was a reason I wasn't using it
[04:37] <ashlessburn> asus what? for one being a asus eng i can help ypu
[04:37] <RORgasm> IntuitiveNipple, how much better do u think xp will run than on virtual box?
[04:37] <marca311> bazgee3: I don't believe you are allowed to advertise here
[04:37] <IntuitiveNipple> mzz: Without that it is just like running QEMU
[04:38] <IntuitiveNipple> RORgasm: Not having used virtualBox I couldn't say.
[04:38] <luddite> ASUS F5Z series
[04:38] <rakudave> luddite: is NumLock enabled? (Fn+F11 or similar)
[04:38] <luddite> checking
[04:38] <mzz> RORgasm: recommend you just try it (for your workload)
[04:39] <jojo1224> hey
[04:39] <luddite> rakudave - OMFG - yes it was enabled
[04:39] <IntuitiveNipple> RORgasm: I know one thing, over the weekend I installed kvm-83 in an Ubuntu Jaunty live-CD session, and then ran the live-CD inside kvm too, and the virtual machine felt fast than the host!
[04:39] <rakudave> luddite: :)
[04:39] <luddite> its perfect now
[04:39]  * luddite slaps self in face
[04:39] <wikkedfin> lol
[04:39] <luddite> rakudave++
[04:40] <luddite> now i can log out of gnome and get back into fluxbox where i belong
[04:40] <jojo1224> what would be the command to burn an iso in ubuntu with burn (http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/burn)
[04:40] <ashlessburn> lol are u serious....o lord
[04:41] <learning> luddites.. you see the inwo ccg?
[04:41] <jojo1224> ashlessburn: are you talking to me or someone else?
[04:41] <ashlessburn> r
[04:41] <ashlessburn> jojo what ur issue priv me
[04:41]  * YankDownUnder wonders...
[04:42] <rakudave> indeed...
[04:43] <learning> have yet to look at the expansion sets..
[04:43] <learning> think ya could attempt to explain a few things?
[04:44] <rakudave> !ask | learning
[04:44] <gralco> where do i get a x-fi sound card driver for sound capture
[04:44] <learning> thoughts on condor movie?
[04:45] <Titan8990> !soundblaster | gralco
[04:46] <learning> olhp? noticed some of those guys knew more about inwo than anyone
[04:46] <adante> hi guys where does cron log to? i can't see anything in /var/log
[04:47] <mcnellis> My computer doesn't detect either harddrive if I have two plugged in, ergo I can only plug one in at a time. Is there some thing in the BIOS that could preventing both on the same IDE controller?
[04:47] <goodmami> is it possible to suspend without logging out?
[04:47] <rakudave> adante: i think they are "mailed" to you, type "mail" in a terminal
[04:47] <adante> rakudave: ah i don't have mail installed :3
[04:48] <Titan8990> adante, cron mails you or you can specify log
[04:48] <mzz> (or configure your favorite mail client to read that mail spool, after figuring out where it lives)
[04:48] <U-b-u-n-t-u> are tor related issues supported here?
[04:48] <Titan8990> adante, you can do:    croncommand > /var/log/logfile
[04:48] <mzz> U-b-u-n-t-u: only if they're also somehow ubuntu-related :)
[04:48] <rakudave> adante: then i don't know ^^
[04:48] <Titan8990> adante, and some commands might already have logging functions built in, like rsync
[04:48] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok mzz  I had some issues with tor before and I am not sure why I am going to give it another go
[04:48] <U-b-u-n-t-u> see what happens
[04:49] <adante> Titan8990: ok thanks - i don't need to restart/recycle/reload cron after editing crontab do i?
[04:49] <Titan8990> adante, no
[04:49] <IntuitiveNipple> mcnellis: Two drives on one IDE controller channel require one to be jumpered MASTER and the other SLAVE, or else for both to be set to CS (CABLE SELECT) with a suitable cable.
[04:49] <learning> anyone got somethin on jack?
[04:50] <mcnellis> Yeah they're both set cable select .. I  think I'll just try putting them on different controllers
[04:50] <mcnellis> b/c when on the same controller at least, neither hdd is detected
[04:50] <IntuitiveNipple> mcnellis: The cable isn't correct then. Why not try setting their master/slave jumpers?
[04:52] <mzz> learning: jack as in jackaudio.org?
[04:52] <learning> 29/36 shit
[04:52] <mzz> learning: I have no idea what "29/36" is. Is it ubuntu-related?
[04:52] <Huufarted2> Is there a way to list the currently installed libs?
[04:53] <learning> relatively... it is in everything
[04:54] <mzz> either I'm confused or you're in the wrong channel
[04:54] <learning> http://goodjack.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talkinfo agent/politician/guardian/satanist/elect ppl speech
[04:54] <ari_stress> hi i notice that logrotate.conf is weekly. if i change it into monthly now, when will the next rotation? on march 1st, or march 12th?
[04:54] <mzz> and now I'm pretty sure it's the latter
[04:55] <Huufarted> Anybody know if libdrm is installed by defaullt in Intrepid?
[04:55] <Huufarted> default*
[04:55] <mzz> 99% sure that's a "yes"
[04:55] <mzz> that's just the .so though, you'll probably need the corresponding -devel package to compile against it
[04:55] <mzz> Huufarted: ^^^
[04:56]  * MoLoot giggles @ Huufarted's nick.
[04:56] <ashlessburn> it is a yes
[04:56] <ashlessburn> mzz
[04:56] <Huufarted> mzz, sorry for the noob questions, but what do you mean need  the corresponding -devel?
[04:56] <lockd> only to compile against libdrm, not to build say nVidia's kernel modules
[04:56] <Huufarted> Thanks, MoLoot.  :)  It's just there to make people laugh
[04:57] <trygg> hm, when trying to ./configure gnome do 0.8 it says i dont have glib 2 and gtk+ 2.0 ?
[04:57] <trygg> i cant even apt-get them
[04:57] <mzz> Huufarted: what are you actually trying to do?
[04:57] <Huufarted> Install Intel's linux 945 chip graphics drivers.
[04:57] <mzz> trygg: you have them, but you probably don't have their corresponding -devel packages
[04:57] <Huufarted> Been working with Ubuntu for only a few days.
[04:57] <trygg> hm. how do i fix that?
[04:57] <lstarnes> trygg: did you install libglib2.0-dev and libgtk2.0-dev ?
[04:58] <mzz> ah, -dev, not -devel. My bad.
[04:58] <trygg> "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found" for example
[04:58] <trwww> mzz, RussM: 'screen -t prod1 1 bash --init-file /home/me/bin/myscript' works great.
[04:58] <trwww> but theres one more thing I cant figure out.
[04:58] <trwww> I need to ssh to another server and do the same thing. I tried:
[04:58] <trwww> screen -t prod2 2 ssh prod2; bash --init-file /home/me/bin/myscript
[04:58] <trwww> does ssh have an equivalent of bash's --init-file?
[04:58] <trygg> oh, i need those too. alright.
[04:58] <Huufarted> mzz, going off of intellinuxgraphics.org and trying to install them.  Following the instructs step by step isn't going too far for me yet.  haha
[04:58] <mzz> trwww: try without the ";"
[04:59] <mzz> Huufarted: I'd expect that driver to be packaged. Do you really need a newer version than what's packaged?
[04:59] <mzz> trwww: (ssh can take a command, which can be bash)
[04:59] <Huufarted> mzz, by packaged you mean part of the intrepid install?
[04:59] <mzz> Huufarted: yes
[05:00] <RussM> trwww, You probably need a copy of "myscript" on the remote computer, though.
[05:00] <trwww> mzz: logs me in to prod2 but hangs after it accepts the password
[05:00] <Huufarted> ah, ok.  I figured they were generic ones.  I'll leave well enough alone, then.
[05:00] <trwww> yeah I put it there
[05:00] <mzz> Huufarted: well, I really mean "in one of ubuntu's repositories", but in this case that package would be installed by default too.
[05:00] <mzz> trwww: iirc you also need a -t on the ssh command.
[05:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I installed tor from the synaptic package manager and installed the tor plugin from foxfire and it doesnt work and I dont see a readme file etc suggestions?
[05:00]  * mzz checks
[05:00] <Luke_> did anyone else lose all sound with some recent package updates?
[05:00] <Luke_> i have no sound
[05:01] <mzz> trwww: yep, insert a -t somewhere between "ssh" and the hostname.
[05:01] <poet> can anyone help me figure out why plug and play isn't working, but the devices are recognized if I plug them in before boot?
[05:01] <lockd> Luke_: sound.. got screwed up a bit for me
[05:01] <poet> also, nothing pops up on lsusb
[05:01] <Huufarted> poet, what kind of device?
[05:01] <wehttamb> how well would ubuntu run on a 24" imac?
[05:01] <IntuitiveNipple> poet: Sounds like a udev issue
[05:01] <lockd> Pidgin appears to have lost OSS support
[05:01] <carlos> hola
[05:01] <poet> Huufarted: a range, usb mouse, usb key, external harddrive
[05:01] <ashlessburn> really when that happen
[05:01] <Luke_> lockd: how did you fix it?
[05:01] <carlos> una pregunta
[05:01] <mzz> poet: what are you plugging them into?
[05:02] <mzz> poet: any chance it's a hub that for some reason got turned off?
[05:02] <poet> mzz: a usb port?
[05:02] <lockd> Luke_: I didn't lose sound completely
[05:02] <Luke_> lockd: mine is completely gone
[05:02] <ashlessburn> i use pidgin for all apps its suppoerted fro my work and i havnt had any issues
[05:02] <Guest75025> puedo actualizar mi ubuntu 8.10 a una mas reciente?????????????????}
[05:02] <Luke_> anyone else lose all sound recently?
[05:02] <poet> actually I just discovered something.  if I try 'sudo lsusb' the device pops up?
[05:02] <mzz> poet: I don't quite remember how to check for power state, but there's a way to disable usb devices, including hubs without any active devices connected to them. I wonder if that's breaking stuff (and manually powering the hubs back up would help)
[05:03] <IntuitiveNipple> !es | Guest75025
[05:03] <mzz> poet: oh, then I was probably wrong
[05:03] <lockd> ashlessburn: I mean for audio I had to set it to "Command: ossplay"
[05:03] <trygg> now it worked, wonderful.
[05:03] <poet> mzz: let me see if it's reproducable
[05:03] <linxuz3r> how do i disable the machine beeping in ubuntu gnome?
[05:03] <trygg> kind of a wierd question, but whats the flashiest audio player?
[05:03] <mzz> urgh
[05:03] <mzz> flashy--
[05:04] <IntuitiveNipple> aplay :p
[05:04] <trygg> yeah, just want something to impress people with :D
[05:04] <sloopy> how do i install the madwifi drivers in 8.10?
[05:04] <Titan8990> linxuz3r, if you are talking about the terminal you can disable it in it's settings
[05:04] <trwww> thanks mzz and RussM. That is so cool. Really nice setup. thanks a million.
[05:04] <lockd> hmm guess it was a fluke, pidgin sounds works now
[05:04] <trygg> just got a 8800gts so i've gotten compiz and stuff, pretty nice.
[05:04] <scrolls> sloppy: http://madwifi.org/Downloads/0.Howto.Install.Madwifi.txt
[05:04] <Titan8990> linxuz3r, like edit -> prefrences
[05:05] <learning> anyone hook eliza into pidgin?
[05:05] <ashlessburn> hmm have u ran the update dkpg
[05:05] <Luke_> anyone know what the deal is with sound?
[05:05] <sloopy> scrolls, in 8.04 there was a way that didnt require compiling them...
[05:06] <linxuz3r> how do i change the terminal sound?
[05:06] <lockd> Luke_: you could always try alternate sound daemons
[05:06] <poet> mzz: it is in fact reproducable.  Although sometimes after I plug in a device and type 'sudo lsusb', it hangs.  But for several types of usb devices, it makes ubuntu recognize them
[05:06] <mzz> trwww: yep, screen is nice, although I use it differently (I usually have exactly one screen session running per host and rarely nest them)
[05:06] <ashlessburn> o u are correct lockd
[05:06] <lockd> Luke_: pulseaudio has caused a bunch of people issues
[05:07] <ashlessburn> read the entire thing lol
[05:07] <mzz> poet: weird! anything interesting happening in dmesg right before or after the lsusb?
[05:07] <scrolls> sloppy: sadly im new to ubuntu and linux in general so im not familiar with older versions. you can still make it work in 8.10 no?
[05:07] <Luke_> lockd: when did it start causing issues? it's been fine for me until just now
[05:08] <IntuitiveNipple> trygg: Have you looked at audacious?
[05:08] <lockd> Luke_: daemon crashed a lot for me when I used it
[05:08] <poet> mzz: I think, while lsusb is hanging it produces this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117127/
[05:08] <Titan8990> sloopy, have you checked the restricted driver manager?
[05:08] <Luke_> lockd: its still running
[05:08] <mzz> poet: that's not a happy message at all
[05:08] <sloopy> scrolls, restricted manager installs the ath5k driver which i cant use
[05:09] <sloopy> Titan8990, see my last msg
[05:09] <lockd> Luke_: I would disable it and try something in ALSA to make sure that even works
[05:09] <mzz> poet: I don't know enough about usb to really debug this (although I might end up learning more about it in the future to debug a problem of my own...)
[05:09] <scrolls> sloppy, so youre SOL then?
[05:09] <Luke_> lockd: trying now
[05:09]  * mzz glares at the buggy usb in the ancient laptop next to him
[05:09] <poet> mzz: that particular device I was trying to use was an external harddrive.  after lsusb stops hanging, the hard drive is recognized and dmesg has this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117128/
[05:09] <trygg> IntuitiveNipple: not really what im looking for. windows have a great player named helium
[05:09] <scrolls> sloopy my bad
[05:09] <sloopy> scrolls, no i will just have to compile them... didnt want to but if i must...
[05:09] <Titan8990> sloopy, compiling the madwifi drivers are pretty easy....
[05:09] <poet> mzz: ok :-) thanks for trying though
[05:09] <scrolls> lol
[05:09] <Luke_> lockd: still no sound with alsa
[05:10] <mzz> poet: all that "busy inodes on changed media" makes me suspect it's detected, automounted, then re-detected or something like that.
[05:10] <trygg> http://www.helium-music-manager.com/ - nothing like that available?
[05:10] <Titan8990> sloopy, it may be in the repositories, but I was get the source
[05:10] <sloopy> Titan8990, yes it is, but if there is a place with precompiled modules, i dont need to recompile on new version...
[05:10] <poet> mzz: yeah something weird must be going on
[05:10] <Titan8990> !madwifi | sloopy
[05:11] <lockd> Luke_: you're running from the command line to make sure it's not blocking?
[05:11] <sloopy> Titan8990, i just hope the day the ath5k driver supporting ap mode will come soon :')
[05:11] <mzz> trygg: amarok seems to be popular, although I have no idea if it's sufficiently flashy (I don't really do kde-based apps)
[05:11] <Titan8990> sloopy, and injection patch
[05:11] <lockd> you can always run Winamp in wine if you need pure flashiness
[05:11] <Luke_> lockd: running what from the command line to make sure whats not blocking?
[05:12] <ashlessburn> titan dont forget dome madwifi doesnt work wpa duppliant if that doesnt work using the ndigtk is the only option
[05:12] <scrolls> XMMS is a good one, its like winamp. runs fast and strong
[05:12] <ashlessburn> for unex
[05:12] <poet> what's the most portable filesystem to put on an external harddrive?
[05:12] <lockd> Luke_: alsaplayer, or whatever
[05:13] <trygg> damn. maybe have to wine helium then :)
[05:13] <scrolls> ashlessburn: im using ubuntu 8.10
[05:13] <Luke_> lockd: i think it may be a gstreamer issue? but flash doesn't work either
[05:13] <lockd> hey, anyone know of an XMMS plugin or similar which lets you mess around with mixing from other apps?
[05:13] <ashlessburn> scrolls priv me
[05:13] <lockd> Luke_: check to see if alsaplayer works -without- pulseaudio running
[05:14] <areay> how do i setup /etc/network/interfaces for eth0 with a static ip? it works fine with dhcp but static won't work...
[05:14] <mzz> poet: still fat32 imho
[05:14] <ammagendut> hi there
[05:15] <ammagendut> how can i fix this : Could not download all repository indexes
[05:15] <Titan8990> areay, you also have to edit /etc/resolv.conf
[05:15] <mzz> poet: I'd consider ntfs for a larger drive
[05:15] <poet> mzz: how is that for large filesystems?
[05:15] <sloopy> Titan8990, heh that page needs some updating and some false info removed...
[05:15] <mzz> heh
[05:15] <poet> ah
[05:15] <areay> Titan8990, I did, then restarted... you just put each nameserver on a new line, right?
[05:15] <mzz> poet: (windows can obviously handle ntfs, recent-ish linux can handle it pretty well using ntfs-3g, iirc mac can use ntfs-3g too but I'm not sure)
[05:15] <Titan8990> areay, yes
[05:16] <areay> Titan8990, yeah it didn't work :( i've tried the ip of my router and opendns and i get nada... i can ping any external ip i want that's how i know it's the dns... after the restart my resolv.conf remained intact so nothing is messing with it...
[05:16] <mzz> poet: linux, mac, a bunch of bsds and others, apparently. That driver hasn't let me down yet.
[05:16] <Luke_> lockd: no go with alsa and no pulseaudio
[05:17] <poet> mzz: yeah, that seems like the way to go
[05:17] <Huufarted> I changed my password in Linux, now pam_keyring won't take my password (new or old).  Does this mean I'm going to have to recompile pam_keyring?
[05:17] <Titan8990> areay, pastebin your resolv.conf
[05:17] <lockd> Luke_: was there a kernel update?
[05:17] <mzz> poet: it really boils down to it being easier to get all the others to handle ntfs than it is to get windows to handle something it doesn't handle natively
[05:17] <Luke_> no
[05:18] <Luke_> not that i noticed in correlation with the sound loss
[05:18] <poet> mzz:  yeah, there are more people hacking to support ntfs on linux/bsd than there are people trying to support ext3 on windows :-p
[05:18] <lockd> Luke_: sometimes I could reboot and it would just work
[05:18] <mzz> poet: you can actually do ext3 on windows by installing a driver-style thing, but I haven't tried that, I think.
[05:18] <Luke_> lockd: rebooted a ton already =/
[05:18] <Luke_> dude this sucks
[05:18] <Luke_> no sound wtf
[05:18] <areay> Titan8990, i think i know where i went wrong and it's really stupid... i'll be back in like 2mins if i need more help; if not thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)]
[05:18] <Huufarted> question:  how do I get pam_keyring to recognize a new Linux password once I change it?
[05:19] <Titan8990> areay, you dont have to reboot
[05:19] <mzz> poet: but I wouldn't feel like installing that on other people's system every time I had to use the external drive there
[05:19] <sloopy> mzz, i have used the ext2 IFS driver in windows extensively works well with no probs
[05:19] <Titan8990> areay, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:19] <mzz> sloopy: ah, thanks for the data point :)
[05:19] <areay> Titan8990, thanks bro
[05:19] <ammagendut> where is ubuntu hassle
[05:19] <Titan8990> areay, gl
[05:19] <ammagendut> i want to ask about source.list
[05:19] <poet> mzz: yeah, definitly not
[05:19] <sloopy> mzz, np, i like it when something works in windows, gives me hope ;')
[05:19] <Titan8990> !ask | ammagendut
[05:20] <lockd> Luke_: you could always try a different sound system, but the choices are real slim
[05:20] <mzz> Luke_: or you can try with no sound system (just dmix)
[05:20] <happyface_0> Is there a way to adjust the volume when I use loopback/monitor for a line-in device?
[05:20] <lockd> Luke_: what sound card do you have?
[05:22] <Huufarted> Question for everybody:  I changed my Linux login password.  pam_keyring now insists my password is wrong.  I have since changed my password back to the initial one, but how do I get pam_keyring to let me change my pw in the future?
[05:22] <ammagendut> how i can fix this ? 'E:Type '--2009-02-12' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mmu.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[05:22] <Titan8990> happyface_0, try:  alsamixer       from the terminal
[05:23] <trygg> what should i do if i want to download something and i get "repositories: deb http://whatever" ?
[05:23] <rww> ammagendut: copy your sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give us a link to the pastebin page it creates
[05:23] <trygg> shall i input it somewhere or is it a command?
[05:23] <happyface_0> Titan8990: adjusting the volume of anything there doesn't affect the volume of the loopback
[05:23] <trygg> i get/it says
[05:23] <rww> trygg: System> Administration > Software Sources > Third-Party Software > Add, paste it in.
[05:23] <trygg> ah
[05:24] <Titan8990> trygg, echo 'deb http://whatever NAME' >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <Titan8990> happyface_0, wasn't aware
[05:24] <Titan8990> trygg, followed by:  sudo apt-get update
[05:24] <Titan8990> trygg, careful about what you add
[05:24] <trygg> alright, thanks
[05:25] <meshuggah> hi there
[05:25] <j03lar50n> usser ping
[05:25] <Luke_> lockd: i have an audigy value 2
[05:25] <areay> Titan8990, no luck... here's my resolv.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117131/ ...and my interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117132/
[05:26] <WIGGMPk> Anyone have an issue with their screenlets not starting on the widget layer like the settings where configured for?
[05:26] <Titan8990> areay, did you add domain config and search config?
[05:27] <areay> Titan8990, nah... i copied it from the dhcp resolv.conf... i tried it without those though just in case and it still didn't work :(
[05:28] <meshuggah> how is debian compared to ubuntu ?
[05:28] <sloopy> meshuggah, old?
[05:29] <Titan8990> areay, they don't need to be there
[05:29] <Titan8990> areay, have you tried removing the nameserver line from interfaces?
[05:29] <areay> Titan8990, nope i'll try now if u want
[05:29] <Titan8990> areay, yes
[05:30] <areay> Titan8990, ok brb
[05:31] <lockd> Luke_: that's supposedly well supported with oss, unfortunately you'd have to build it from sources just to test
[05:31] <trygg> do there exist an equivalent to autohotkey? so you can script your own hotkeys
[05:31] <Digital7> sound is not working after hardy->intrepid upgrade - can't seem to get it to work with anything off google so far
[05:32] <Digital7> any input welcome
[05:32] <Titan8990> !alsa | Digital7
[05:32] <areay> Titan8990, no luck yet... there's a lot of stuff coming up when i restart the network if that's any help
[05:33] <Jaan|Perfect> is there any software/website, which collates my hardware information and retrieves me with info whether drivers are available
[05:33] <Titan8990> areay, pastebin it
[05:34] <Titan8990> Jaan|Perfect, you don't have to worry about that because they are kernel modules and updated with the update manager
[05:34] <Titan8990> Jaan|Perfect, including your restricted drivers
[05:34] <areay> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117138/
[05:35] <Titan8990> areay, lets see a:  ifconfig -a
[05:35] <areay> Titan8990, when i'm connected as static, yeah?
[05:35] <Titan8990> areay, the key in there was: failed to bring up eth0
[05:35] <asc> Could somebody suggest a replacement network manager that can actually connect via fricking ethernet?
[05:36] <areay> Titan8990, yeah it doesn't say that with dhcp
[05:36] <Titan8990> areay, yes
[05:36] <areay> Titan8990, ok brb
[05:36] <racecar56> help i wanted to dual boot ubuntu and winxp but my evil xp killed my grub D= and i thought there was a link in the startup message
[05:37] <Luke_> lockd: i doubt that i need all new softare to fix this. some setting is wrong. my sound has worked for years with alsa and then wrapped with pulseaudio
[05:37] <Digital7> Titan8990: i've exhausted most of the usefulness from that wiki entry. any other suggestions?
[05:37] <Titan8990> !grub | racecar56
[05:37] <racecar56> oh thanks
[05:37] <Titan8990> Digital7, did you reinstall the alsa drivers?
[05:37] <areay> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117139/
[05:37] <Digital7> Titan8990: to the best of my knowledge, yes..at least two packages relating to alsa
[05:38] <Titan8990> areay, try bring eth0 up with:  sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:38] <Titan8990> areay, and then: dig google.com
[05:38] <Titan8990> Digital7, was one of them kernel specific? using `uname -r`
[05:38] <Digital7> Titan8990: to be specific, i actually reinstalled alsa-base and alsa-utils, though i did not do alsa-drivers
[05:39] <ammagendut_> hi
[05:39] <ammagendut_> help me
[05:39] <Digital7> Titan8990: "sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` libasound2"
[05:39] <areay> Titan8990, ok brb
[05:39] <Titan8990> Digital7, that is it
[05:39] <Digital7> Titan8990: that command was not fruitful in this case
[05:39] <Digital7> Titan8990: or series of packages, rather
[05:40] <Titan8990> Digital7, is it detected in the volume manager?
[05:41] <Digital7> Titan8990: alsamixer actually sees PulseAudio as the 'card'
[05:41] <ammagendut_> i want to replace the modified source list to the original one
[05:41] <Digital7> Titan8990: i didn't take notice of what was detected prior to the upgarde
[05:41] <Titan8990> Digital7, ehh, I don't have any experience with pulseaudio
[05:41] <Logikos> mib_12n8ik8s: i dont know if you were the one helping me before or not with the initramfs issue but the chkdsk /r apears to have worked, so thanks
[05:41] <areay> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117140/ that dig thing worked, but i couldn't ping google.com
[05:41] <lockd> Luke_: I have no idea what said option is, I just know a lot have trouble with it
[05:42] <Digital7> Titan8990: if i'm not mistaken, it should say my audio card here instead?
[05:42] <Digital7> Titan8990: i don't recall a generic 'pulseaudio' being listed in alsamixer before, though i could be mistaken
[05:43] <rww> ammagendut_: Just delete everything in the file, then go to System > Administration > Software Sources and add back the repositories and updates you want.
[05:43] <lockd> Digital7: if pulseaudio is running it will
[05:43] <J-_> I've installed PulseAudio in Hardy, was wonder if it's still possible to use ALSA still like the default installation?
[05:44] <ammagendut_> the exact command is sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list right?
[05:44] <rww> ammagendut_: gksudo, not sudo. Apart from that, yes
[05:44] <areay> Titan8990, in firefox i'm just getting connection refused, if that's any help
[05:45] <lockd> J-_: yeah. lots are having trouble with that now
[05:45] <ammagendut_> ok i got the list
[05:45] <Titan8990> areay, sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter
[05:45] <lockd> J-_: of course, the app in question has to support alsa. not sure if gstreamer has the right plugins
[05:45] <racecar56> hey Titan8990 thanks for your help i was wondering where that link was hiding at
[05:45] <Digital7> lockd: do you know the shell name for ubuntu's default volume app?
[05:45] <racecar56> in fact that's the whole point of me joining
[05:46] <Titan8990> areay, then post the output of:   sudo iptables -l
[05:46] <lockd> Digital7: gnome-volume-control
[05:46] <areay> Titan8990, do i need to reconnect to do that or will iptables be the same regardless?
[05:46] <ammagendut_> rww: E: Type '--2009-02-12' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mmu.list
[05:46] <ammagendut_> what is that
[05:46] <ammagendut_> how i can fix that
[05:47] <rww> ammagendut_: that means you put something incorrect on line 1 in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mmu.list
[05:47] <lockd> Digital7: use pavucontrol if you actually want to get some use out of pulse
[05:47] <ammagendut_> i want to delete that source list
[05:47] <carpii> i want to run lighttpd but im having problems with permissions.   It seems lighty wants to run as www-data, so it can write to /var/log/lighttpd, but then it cant read my php scripts from /home/carpii/web -- how to fix this please?
[05:47] <trygg> if my mouse wont work, how can i make a mouse press with the keyboard?
[05:47] <mzz> lockd: are you sure? Rumour has it nautilus is involved in automounting too (rumour being the README or the like that comes with recent gnome-volume-manager)
[05:47] <ammagendut_> and put the right source list
[05:48] <Overand> I have a system with a bunch of SATA drives on an add-on controller - it won't boot from them, no matter what.  (HAve been through the bios a ton, upgraded it even, etc) - they have a raid 5 set on them.  I have another, IDE drive I can put in the system.  Can I just put grub onto the IDE drive, and have it boot the others, or does grub require the BIOS to see them too?
[05:48] <lockd> mzz: gnome-volume-control, not manager
[05:48] <areay> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117142/
[05:48] <mzz> oh, sorry.
[05:48] <rww> ammagendut_: sudo rm -r /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ , then go to System > Administration > Software Sources and add the repositories you want.
[05:48] <mzz> as usual it'd help if I actually read what people said in here
[05:48] <Titan8990> areay, alright, try again
[05:48] <racecar56> who here has ubuntu only (not dualbooting anything)
[05:48] <areay> Titan8990, ok brb
[05:48] <asc> I need to install the binary driver from the nvidia site in ubuntu 8.10. After I install and run GDM it starts in low graphics mode. The nv driver is blacklisted and the restricted modules packages are removed.
[05:49] <lockd> racecar56: here, though I'm using virtualbox for a few things
[05:49] <tritium> racecar56: probably several.  Why?  Please don't take polls, ok?
[05:49] <racecar56> ok
[05:49] <tritium> racecar56: do you have a specific question?
[05:49] <mzz> racecar56: why do you ask? Just curious?
[05:49] <genii> Overand: Lilo and GRUB cannot boot from raid5
[05:50] <Titan8990> genii, intersting, what can?
[05:50] <Overand> genii: /boot is on a raid 1 set
[05:50] <piti_> GRUB gave me lots of problem yesterday ... with raid1
[05:50] <Overand> genii: this system worked fine when the drives and card were on another motherboard
[05:50] <racecar56> gtg now my xp is done installing on my pc and thanks u titan8990 for the link... i know what to do now... nooby windows for pwning my bootloader >:( ah at least its fixable
[05:50] <ari_stress> my 8.10 uses dhcp, why it doesn't update the dns record?
[05:50] <Overand> this is not a grub problem, this is a matter of the BIOS not even getting to grub
[05:50] <piti_> when I disconnect on drive it just refuse to boot from another one
[05:51] <areay> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117143/
[05:51] <Titan8990> genii, and is that all raid5 or just one type (eg - soft fake discrete)
[05:51] <mzz> racecar56: fwiw: dualboot with windows here, but recently switched to virtualbox for everything needing windows that isn't a game (which wasn't much to begin with)
[05:51] <genii> Overand: raid1 shuld be ok if you built initramfs with raid support for your running kernel
[05:51] <piti_> which defeat the purpose of having raid1 -_-"
[05:51] <ammagendut_> rww: wow.. it fix now
[05:51] <Overand> genii: this is a live, operational system, or *was* - on a previous motherboard.
[05:51] <Overand> It's the same SATA card, etc etc.  So, the question I asked was accurate.
[05:51] <Titan8990> areay, you have to bring up eth0 first.... also, bring down all interfaces that are not eth0 or l0
[05:51] <genii> Titan8990: softraid only
[05:52] <Titan8990> genii, thanks for the info
[05:52] <Logikos> i do this all the time in windows, but not sure how to do it with ubuntu .. if i want to blow it away and start over, but i want to backup specific program settings in windows i just copy the application data directory items i want to keep before i blow it away ... it apears as though ubuntu uses /home/username for this ... then in theory if i copy over the .directory's i want such as .mozilla-thunderbird .mozilla .eclipse etc 
[05:52] <ashlessburn> raid 5 is the proper set up if u choose 0-1 u are asking for trouble
[05:52] <ashlessburn> what derver type are u running
[05:52] <areay> Titan8990, with sudo ifconfig eth0 up?
[05:52] <mzz> lockd: yes
[05:52] <mzz> err
[05:52] <Titan8990> areay, yes
[05:52] <mzz> Logikos: yes
[05:52] <genii> Overand: The drives in the array are at same exact designations as in previous box ? sda=sda in new box, etc?
[05:52] <areay> Titan8990, aiight brb
[05:53] <Overand> genii: yes, in theory, but GRUB isn't even booting
[05:53] <Overand> The system is hanging, basically no-boot-device.  I'm going to put a *fifth* - IDE - drive in
[05:53] <Overand> which sucks, because that will probably totally throw off all the drive letters
[05:53] <Overand> drive letters?  wow, DOS
[05:53] <lockd> well there are still letters
[05:53] <mzz> Logikos: (regular users can only write in their homedir and a handful other places like /tmp, so the vast majority of interesting settings *has* to be where you think they are)
[05:53] <Overand> lockd: aye
[05:53] <Overand> still
[05:54] <Overand> device names, not 'drive letters'
[05:54] <genii> Overand: Maybe you have a cd in one box and not in the other (or some other device on sata/ide which is not a hd)
[05:54] <carpii> i want to run lighttpd but im having problems with permissions.   It seems lighty wants to run as www-data, so it can write to /var/log/lighttpd, but then it cant read my php scripts from /home/carpii/web -- how to fix this please?
[05:54] <Logikos> mzz: thanks
[05:54] <Overand> genii: you're not understanding the problem
[05:54] <Overand> genii: the problem is not drive-order-issues
[05:54] <Overand> the probelm is that GRUB will not even come up
[05:54] <lockd> DOS uses letters to refer to partitions anyway
[05:54] <areay> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117144/
[05:54] <genii> Overand: If not reaching grub, then the drive with mbr is not being seen as primary to boot from
[05:54] <Overand> I'm not having trouble with grub, i'm having trouble with bios even trying to boot from the addin card PERIOD
[05:54] <Overand> yes
[05:54] <Overand> I know.  Hence my question - if I put in an extra drive on the onbaord IDE controller
[05:55] <Overand> Can I get *grub* - configured on that drive - to load the OS from the other drives?
[05:55] <genii> Overand: Yes
[05:55] <carpii> Titan, my drive mounting problems all became apparent a whole ago. Drive was fried :/
[05:55] <Overand> Or does grub require BIOS access to the devices
[05:55] <mzz> Overand: probably. The bios has to be able to access the drive.
[05:55] <Titan8990> areay, try:   sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo ifconfig pan0 down
[05:56] <lockd> carpii: similar thing happened here but not quite fried. shattered, completely
[05:56] <Overand> Hm.
[05:56] <areay> Titan8990, ok brb
[05:56] <Overand> Maybe I'll just install the OS on the extra drive
[05:56] <Overand> blleh
[05:56] <mzz> Overand: however if you can install grub there you can almost certainly put all of /boot/ there. As long as grub can see your kernel and initramfs the os will boot.
[05:56] <lockd> carpii: I don't think the 100 degree Celsius graphics card helped (but not sure if it did much to cause it)
[05:57] <carpii> hehe, im hoping my server doesnt have anything more than an old Cirrus Logic EGA
[05:57] <Overand> mzz: interesting idea, moving /boot to it
[05:57] <Overand> hmmm
[05:57] <hacker_kid> how can i find my kernel version?
[05:57] <trygg> what is the best dock program?
[05:57] <carpii> more /proc/version
[05:57] <genii> hacker_kid: uname -r
[05:57] <lockd> trygg: avant-window-navigator, if you have Compiz
[05:57] <mzz> Overand: that's what I'd do if the root filesystem is on anything unusual (a device the bios doesn't like or a raid/lvm/whatever grub can't handle)
[05:58] <hacker_kid> genii, ty
[05:58] <trygg> lockd: will try
[05:58] <KyleK> is there a virus scanner i can scan a windows drive from ubuntu?
[05:58] <lockd> is there an option for displaying running apps on the desktop in gnome-desktop?
[05:58] <mzz> KyleK: clamav possibly
[05:58] <genii> hacker_kid: np. carpii's method also works
[05:58] <areay> Titan8990, still no luck
[05:58] <rww> KyleK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus . I'd go with ClamAV.
[05:59] <Titan8990> areay, I'm stumped, there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your config, if no one else here has a suggestion, i would recommend to forums
[05:59] <linxuz3r> can you link themes in gnome so that the themes directory does not reside in your home folder?
[05:59] <ashlessburn> overland maybe u should check your priv msgs
[05:59] <areay> Titan8990, yeah it's pretty weird... i guess i could configure my router to always assign this machine with that ip
[06:00] <linxuz3r> please
[06:00] <linxuz3r> i dont wanna logout
[06:00] <carpii> linxuz, have a look in /usr/share maybe they can go in a directory there too
[06:00] <sloopy> areay, what problem are you having?
[06:01] <Gnea> linxuz3r: sure
[06:01] <lockd> why is AVG even listed in the antivirus list since it's just a demo and apparently the full version doesn't work?
[06:01] <lockd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus/Avg
[06:01] <rww> lockd: Because it can still detect viruses, which is better than nothing?
[06:01] <mzz> lockd: to warn you about the full version not working?: P
[06:01] <guest03482> hi folks...i would like to monitor a process (like httpd) and restart it automatically if it dies...which is better to use for this? an entry inittab or cron?  advantages of either?
[06:02] <Helen_McCall> I have an ati mobility radeon 9000. How do I get drivers for this in Hardy?
[06:02] <carpii> guest, you could look into monit, which willr estart services and also notify you
[06:02] <Titan8990> lockd, becuase it exists and us linux folk like to document things would be my guess
[06:02] <lockd> I guess, can still use remove if it tells you the file path
[06:02] <guest03482> carpii: thanks for suggestion
[06:02] <areay> sloopy i'm trying to get eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces to work with a static ip... it works with dhcp but not with static
[06:02] <Gnea> !ATI | Helen_McCall
[06:03] <Titan8990> lockd, people spend a lot of time getting things to work and then they like to share that knowledge...
[06:03] <sloopy> areay, have a pastebin of your /etc/interfaces ?
[06:03] <mzz> Helen_McCall: I don't know offhand how new that card is, but I recommend you don't blindly install the binary drivers. The open ones may work just fine.
[06:03] <areay> sloopy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117132/
[06:03] <linxuz3r> Gnea: thanks it worked
[06:04] <ashlessburn> well obiuosly overrand did not want with his pc lol
[06:04] <Gnea> linxuz3r: cheers :)
[06:04] <areay> sloopy, i tried it without dns-nameservers too
[06:04] <Helen_McCall> how do i install open drivers?
[06:04] <areay> sloopy, i've also added the dns info to resolv.conf
[06:04] <mzz> Helen_McCall: you should already have those installed. What are you trying to do/fix?
[06:04] <sloopy> 254 is your gateway/router?
[06:04] <tritium> areay: dns-nameservers isn't a valid option.  nameserver info belongs in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:04] <Helen_McCall> The open drivers do not run compiz?
[06:05] <Titan8990> !blacklist | Helen_McCall
[06:05]  * mzz looks up what a mobility 9000 actually is
[06:05] <Gnea> lockd: it's basically a here-it-is-now-figur-it-out-for-yourself kind of deal
[06:05] <areay> tritium, i've tried it without that too... and i put the info in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:05] <Titan8990> Helen_McCall, however, no need to uninstall them becuase the driver that is loaded is defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <xMopx> Is anyone familiar with Deadmini? The root password it claims is wrong ¬.¬
[06:05] <tritium> areay: please pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf
[06:06] <lockd> Helen_McCall: they probably will, but might take a decade to render a frame
[06:06] <Gnea> Helen_McCall: it depends on how your card is supported. that URL that I had ubottu give you should shed some light on the issue
[06:06] <kebomix> any body here took LPI certificate ?
[06:06] <mzz> heh
[06:06] <areay> tritium: /etc/resolv.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117145/
[06:06] <tritium> xMopx: please stay on topic (ubuntu support)
[06:06] <mzz> Helen_McCall: fglrx (the binary drivers you were linked to) actually don't support that card, I'm pretty sure
[06:07] <xMopx> Ah, sorry.
[06:07] <Gnea> mzz: have you checked that?
[06:07] <mzz> Helen_McCall: afaik compiz should run, but it may not perform acceptably and some plugins won't work.
[06:07] <Helen_McCall> ok
[06:07] <mzz> Gnea: yes?
[06:07] <Mooqball> I am having trouble getting connecting through the WEP security. How do can I figure out the correct settings -- open or shared key? ASCII/Hexidecimal/passphrase? Usually winbloze just wants the key
[06:07] <Overand> mzz: this is actually a flash card that i'm using for /boot
[06:07] <Logikos> is there a way to make it so that a secondary hdd is always mounted on boot ... at present i have 2 seperate partitions from my root, and in ubuntu they will auto mount when i click places and click on them and thats great ... but i want to set it up so that they auto mount on boot because i plan to have a program in ubuntu access paths on those drives regularly
[06:07] <Overand> it's booting =]
[06:07] <sloopy> areay, this is to a console type router?
[06:07] <Helen_McCall> when i try to enable desktop effects, it just says it cant
[06:07] <Overand> IT BOOTED!!!
[06:07] <Helen_McCall> under the appearence menu
[06:07] <Overand> holy crap
[06:08] <Overand> =]
[06:08] <Gnea> mzz: no, it's a yes. or a no. question, not a yes? or a no? question
[06:08] <Overand> Now my 2.25 tb raid 5 array is on a P4 2.8 instead of a pentium 3 500, heh
[06:08] <Overand> woo!
[06:08] <Gnea> Helen_McCall: are you using fglrx at the moment?
[06:08] <mzz> Gnea: I should've omitted the "I'm pretty sure", I guess
[06:08] <areay> sloopy, it's a thomson tg585v7... i got it with my broadband connection
[06:08] <Titan8990> Helen_McCall, what card?
[06:08] <mzz> Gnea: from that binary drivers wiki page: "If you have an ATI Radeon 9500 or newer..."
[06:08] <cahaya-03> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:09] <sloopy> areay, when you use DHCP for config what ip does it give?
[06:09] <Helen_McCall> ati radeon mobile 9000
[06:09] <cahaya-03> gwgww
[06:09] <rww> !hi | cahaya-03
[06:09] <Helen_McCall> what is fglrx
[06:09] <Gnea> mzz: well, you've introduced some rather disturbing doubt... we don't much appreciate that around here, you need to be sure or don't bother
[06:09] <mzz> Gnea: that basically means "r300", the mobility 9000 seems to be r200-based, so it won't work.
[06:09] <areay> sloopy, 192.168.1.66
[06:09] <Titan8990> Helen_McCall, they are the proprietary ati drivers
[06:09] <Titan8990> !ati | Helen_McCall
[06:09] <Gnea> mzz: let's check ubuntuforums, eh?
[06:09] <Helen_McCall> i am not using any proprietary drivers
[06:09] <mzz> Gnea: why? Read the wiki page.
[06:09] <Gnea> Helen_McCall: it's the binary page
[06:09] <remu> Hey there, I'm setting up my transmission-daemon after using torrentflux for the past year. I am editing settings.json using the information listed here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/EditConfigFiles
[06:10] <Titan8990> Helen_McCall, you have to to run compiz
[06:10] <remu> I was wondering if there is a place where the options are explained, the wiki only explains the options to the keys, but doesn't really explain what the key is.
[06:10] <sloopy> areay, does the router have a 'valid' range of ip's ? i know some routers are config'd to only allow a specific range of ip's to be usable
[06:10] <Helen_McCall> ok
[06:10] <Helen_McCall> i'll work on it tomorrow
[06:10] <Helen_McCall> thx
[06:10] <mzz> Gnea: I am positive fglrx won't run on pre-r300 cards anymore. I was not positive the mobility 9000 was pre-r300, but am now.
[06:10] <Gnea> mzz: which wiki page? the one from ubottu?
[06:10] <mzz> Gnea: yes
[06:10] <rww> remu: There's a Transmission BT channel at #transmission. Consider asking there :)
[06:10] <mzz> Gnea: I can doublecheck the fglrx release notes if you insist.
[06:11]  * mzz does so
[06:11] <remu> rww, I did, everyone seems to be asleep there, so I figured I'd ask in here in case someone here knew.
[06:11] <remu> I think they may be standard BT settings, but I'm not so sure.
[06:11] <areay> sloopy, if i use the network manager i can connect fine as 192.168.1.1... i'm just trying to get around the nm bug which forces you to have dhcp at startup with the non-removable "auto eth0" connection
[06:11] <rww> remu: ah, I see :)
[06:11] <drash> Helen_McCall: websearch for compiz-check, download & run it, it will try to help debugging your issue
[06:12] <remu> rww, yeah, thanks anyways though!
[06:12] <mzz> Gnea: yep, no 9000 mentioned in the relnotes linked from http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html (older fglrx will support that card, but won't work with current versions of the Xorg server)
[06:12] <Gnea> mzz: I'm pretty sure that it's supported... http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:12] <sloopy> areay, is there a specific reason you dont want dhcp?
[06:13] <Gnea> mzz: the ATI site doesn't count, just like the nvidia.com driver isn't supported here.
[06:13]  * mzz blinks
[06:13] <Titan8990> sloopy, dhcp is for nubs?
[06:13] <Gnea> yes.
[06:13] <mzz> Gnea: that doesn't make any sense, unless that's a pretty old version of the binary driver. I can look up at what point support for pre-r300 card was dropped but it'll take me a minute.
[06:13] <Gnea> This version of the ATI driver officially supports:   MOBILITY RADEON 9000, 9200, 9600, 9800, X700
[06:13] <sloopy> Titan8990, guess i have been a noob for 15 years then...
[06:14] <areay> sloopy, yeah i run apache, mysqld, mpd, mediatomb all for clients on my home network... i pretty much need a static ip
[06:14] <ramu> i am getting error if i install any package in my system "Can't exec "locale": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Encoding.pm line 16."
[06:14] <piti_> lol...so fixed static ip for non noob?
[06:14] <Gnea> mzz: why bother? the intrepid fglrx driver that's in the repositories supports it. therefore, ubuntu supports it. end of story.
[06:14] <Titan8990> sloopy, hehe, no, probably just don't play with servers :)
[06:14] <sloopy> Titan8990, all my machines have dhcp, certain ones are just config'd in dhcp to get specific ip each time tho
[06:14] <kaartz> hi
[06:14] <kaartz> exit
[06:14] <kaartz> quir
[06:14] <kaartz> quit
[06:15] <Gnea> kaartz: like this:  /quit
[06:15] <sloopy> areay, config router to give specific ip to the mac address in your server
[06:15] <mzz> Gnea: the wiki page says it does not support it. The relnotes from ati itself say it is not supported, and I can find you the documentation on ati's site confirming what version that change was in. Are you sure that package description is up to date?
[06:15] <Titan8990> sloopy, that works too, but I don't like the 8 seconds dhcp adds to my what is now a 20sec boot time :)
[06:15] <mzz> Gnea: let me dig up ati's notes for that version of fglrx though.
[06:15] <sloopy> Titan8990, if it takes 8 secs then something is config'd wrong...
[06:16] <Gnea> mzz: here's the person and timestamp of the latest entry in the changelog: -- Mario Limonciello <mario_limonciello@dell.com>  Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:55:59 -0500
[06:16] <areay> sloopy, i've tried looking around in the settings of the router, which are very limited, and haven't found anything yet... it's not looking too hopeful as far as the router's concerned...
[06:16] <rww> ramu: Do you have the "belocs-locales-bin" package installed?
[06:16] <mzz> Gnea: are you sure the description is updated to stay in sync with what the driver supports?
[06:16] <ramu> rww, i donot know
[06:17] <Gnea> oh look, a tech at DELL made it official. hrm, let's see here, which version of the ATI do you suppose ships with most dell laptops?
[06:17] <Titan8990> areay, have you checked to see if your router is on the dd-wrt compatibility list?
[06:17] <sloopy> areay, yeah i am not overly knowledgeable with console routers beyond a linksys, i have always used a spare linux box for routing, at home and work...
[06:17] <Gnea> mzz: and did we bother to ask helen which make/model of laptop she has? oops.
[06:17] <mzz> Gnea: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/radeonprevious-linux.html has a note that 8.28.8 is "the last driver version to support ... ATI Mobility Radeon 9000"
[06:17] <mzz> Gnea: she said she has a Mobility Radeon 9000, which is sufficient
[06:18] <areay> Titan8990, i just checked; they don't even have a section for thomson :(
[06:18] <linxuz3r> i wanna buy a macbook
[06:18] <rww> ramu: Run "apt-cache policy belocs-locales-bin" and see if it says "Installed: (none)" or "Installed: version". That'll tell you whether it's installed.
[06:18]  * mzz guesses he should go and file a bug about that description being stale
[06:18] <Gnea> mzz: if she has a dell, then the chance that it's supported would be even greater.
[06:18] <Gnea> mzz: file the bug when you have some proof.
[06:18] <areay> sloopy, i used to do that because i was using a 3g connection... that was troublesome to say the least
[06:18]  * mzz gives up on this conversation
[06:19] <Gnea> good idea.
[06:19] <ramu> rww, ok
[06:19] <ramu> rww, not installed
[06:19] <sloopy> areay, 3g?
[06:19] <rww> ramu: there's your problem. Try "sudo apt-get install belocs-locales-bin" and see if it installs okay.
[06:19] <mzz> Gnea: I maintained the packaging of this driver for a competing distro for a while. I cannot prove this because I don't have the affected hardware, but some of the users of that distro did, and I was around at the time support was dropped. I think I do know what I'm talking about here, unless ati silently re-added support.
[06:19] <j03lar50n> when installing Ubuntu Server - if i don't choose a desktop, i will only have a terminal?
[06:19] <rww> ramu: If not, we'll have to think of something cleverer.
[06:20] <rww> j03lar50n: correct
[06:20] <j03lar50n> is Kubuntu most popular?
[06:20] <rww> j03lar50n: GNOME/Ubuntu is more popular
[06:20] <Gnea> mzz: I can appreciate that, but perhaps you can appreciate the fact that different distribution maintainers roll their diffs differently.
[06:20] <mzz> Gnea: this is a binary blob. There is nothing to diff.
[06:20] <ramu> rww, what to do
[06:21] <j03lar50n> I don't have that choice at in my setup
[06:21] <rww> Gnea, mzz: Would you mind taking this to PM or something?
[06:21] <rww> ramu:  Try "sudo apt-get install belocs-locales-bin" and see if it installs okay.
[06:21] <areay> sloopy, yeah a vodafone 3g card... i used to share it over eth0... but every dns lookup would take 10 seconds because it would look at eth0 first, but my internet connection was ppp0... i spent hours in here trying to solve the problem but i ended up getting dsl before i fixed the 3g
[06:21] <Gnea> mzz: shall we?
[06:21] <mzz> Gnea: well, that's actually an oversimplification, but there's no way to patch in mobility 9000 support if ati dropped it (you'd have to reverse-engineer the blob)
[06:21] <mzz> Gnea: nah, I'm off.
[06:21] <Gnea> mzz: okay.
[06:21] <areay> sloopy, networking is my nemesis
[06:21] <areay> sloopy, i hate it with a passion
[06:22] <lstarnes>  /away sleep?
[06:22] <sloopy> areay, you probly had a gateway set on eth0
[06:22] <lstarnes> oops.
[06:22] <Gnea> !away | lstarnes
[06:22] <areay> sloopy, yeah... i always miss something
[06:22] <mzz> Gnea: one last thing: where's that changelog you pasted from?
[06:22] <ramu> k
[06:22] <sloopy> areay, i feel your pain, but with wireless... i am very familiar with ip4 networking, but i always have issues with wireless
[06:22] <rww> mzz: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/restricted/f/fglrx-installer/fglrx-installer_8.543-0ubuntu4/changelog
[06:22] <Gnea> mzz: it's linked directly on the page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:22] <mzz> rww: thanks
[06:23] <mzz> Gnea: duh, should've looked there. Sorry, really gone now.
[06:23] <Gnea> mzz: np, I hope we can find out for sure later :)
[06:23] <sloopy> areay, every room in my house is wired with 100T wiring, just so i dont have to deal with wireless... but mrs is complaining she wants wireless...
[06:24] <areay> sloopy, i'd rather have the ethernet personally... wireless is too slow... 54mbit's a joke you're lucky to get 2
[06:25] <areay> sloopy, 20*
[06:25] <Gnea> sloopy: I suggest netgear: http://www.netgear.com/Products/APsWirelessControllers/AccessPoints/WN802Tv2.aspx  very linux-friendly.
[06:25] <Gnea> areay: right, why hvae 54 when you can have 108? ;)
[06:26] <sloopy> areay, well she has wires any place she normally goes except back porch, so when she wants wireless speed isnt a big issue
[06:26] <ncfi1013_> what does it mean when i get an "assertion failed" dialog box when i try to go to two different websites?
[06:27] <mak_> ANy body want's the Wimax 802.16e Products out for sale
[06:27] <sloopy> Gnea, why add more stuff, when i have a machine already doing file serving game serving and doing a couple other menial tasks...
[06:27] <mak_> ?
[06:27] <areay> sloopy, yeah it's always good to have as a backup... i'm in a rented property so paying to get my home wired would be a bit of a waste... i just keep my computers and printers in my office and my ps3/laptop/phone all connect thru wireless...
[06:27] <Gnea> sloopy: I'm not the one to ask :)
[06:27] <nanotube> so, what's the best cross-platform open source video-chat app?
[06:27] <areay> sloopy, i dunno wtf i'm gonna do about this interfaces problem...
[06:28] <Gnea> !best | nanotube
[06:28] <ashlessburn> omg
[06:28] <sloopy> areay, run a main wire along the floor board cat6 goes under floor molding nicely
[06:29] <nanotube> Gnea: fine, what /good/ cross platform open source video chat apps are there?
[06:29] <nanotube> Gnea: ones you might personally recommend?
[06:29] <twain> hi
[06:29] <Gnea> nanotube: I think the only one that actually *works* would have to be gnomemeeting, but I understand that's been replaced with Ekiga... still no video chat with an IM client yet, though
[06:29] <twain> i need your help
[06:29] <twain> how can i install opengl program to run on game?
[06:29] <Gnea> game?
[06:29] <nanotube> Gnea: hm, ekiga it is, then. :)
[06:30] <Gnea> nanotube: good luck :)
[06:30] <nanotube> Gnea: thanks :)
[06:30] <twain> 3d need support for game from opengl
[06:30] <mak_> Is any Body works for Core Development on Wimax Products,,,like on Base Station Syncronization and all,,, in C++ and Linux ?
[06:30] <Gnea> twain: no sure I understand... let's try this again: you want opengl support for a 3d game you want to install?
[06:30] <twain> yes that right gnea
[06:31] <Gnea> and you have what video card?
[06:31] <twain> ATI rad  9600
[06:31] <Gnea> twain: ah, then you want the fglrx driver from the repository
[06:32] <Gnea> !ati | twain
[06:32] <linxuz3r> how do you setup a printer in ubuntu
[06:32] <Gnea> !printer | linxuz3r
[06:32] <trygg> how did you search for something effectively?
[06:32] <Gnea> as opposed to ineffectively?
[06:33] <rdw200169> trygg, on your computer or on the internet?
[06:33] <meshuggah> ?
[06:33] <trygg> heh, on the computer
[06:34] <twain> ok thaanks  let me read info.. brb ok?
[06:34] <Gnea> trygg: locate something
[06:34] <rdw200169> trygg, on ubuntu, they use tracker for that
[06:34] <Gnea> trygg: like this:  locate lspci
[06:34] <rdw200169> Gnea, yeah, locate works too, but you have to download it, and it doesn't search *inside* files, like tracker does
[06:34] <trygg> super, thanks
[06:34] <hacker_kid> im trying to install python 2.6 on ubuntu 8.04 and getting "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" what could cause this
[06:34] <Gnea> rdw200169: that's what grep is for
[06:35] <rdw200169> trygg, you should have a little magnifying glass on your taskbar, that's tracker
[06:35] <rww> hacker_kid: sudo apt-get install build-essential will fix it
[06:35] <mzz> rww++
[06:35] <rdw200169> Gnea, not helpful when it's a non-text file
[06:35] <mzz> that was a much better response than the infodump I was typing :)
[06:35] <Gnea> rdw200169: strings
[06:35] <hacker_kid> rww, haha. i forgot this is a fresh install without the build-essential packages
[06:36] <fermuch> hi
[06:36] <fermuch> hola
[06:36] <fermuch> anybody have a problem?
[06:37] <rdw200169> Gnea, yeah, but maybe everyone doesn't want to learn how to 'locate * | grep' (etc...)
[06:37] <testlin> Greetings all. Is there any way to get the bash_history in realtime? If I type a command in my console, i need it to be written to .bash_history in realtime. Not after logging out. I found that the history is lost if the console is being closed or not properly loged out. I have put an append attribute to .bash_history, but if the history is being cleared, it wont be written to the file.
[06:37] <Gnea> rdw200169: many people do, so we try to keep available as many possible solutions
[06:38] <mzz> rdw200169: imho the main selling point of something like tracker is that it should be faster than grep unless you already have a good idea of what files to grep
[06:38] <Gnea> I agree
[06:38] <adante> how do i use runas? i try runas user group command and it segfaults?
[06:38] <mzz> disadvantages are either system load to keep the database updated or a stale db
[06:38] <adante> also tried runas user group 0022 command and it segfaults
[06:38] <ncfi1013_> what does it mean when i get an "assertion failed" dialog box when i try to go to two different websites?
[06:39] <adante> is runas something that is actually used or should i just sudo nowadays?
[06:39] <rdw200169> not to mention that one is a terminal app, and the other is a gtk app
[06:39]  * Gnea doesn't even have a runas command, nor sees it in the repo
[06:39] <adante> Gnea: hm strange, for me it's part of noshell package
[06:39] <Gnea> adante: ah ok, i see that
[06:40] <mzz> rdw200169: there are gui apps that do the same thing as or are a frontend for find/grep. Tracker might have commandline tools, not sure.
[06:40] <Gnea> adante: runas is kind of opposite of sudo
[06:40] <twain> i am back  little confused do i have do termind for driver?
[06:40] <adante> Gnea: so it's sudont?
[06:41] <Gnea> adante: sec...
[06:41] <rdw200169> mzz, sure, but is it not safe to assume that when someone asks a question in here, they're assuming they want their question answered *without* having to install any more software?
[06:41] <Gnea> adante: sudo is for running a command, from a regular user account, as root. runas is for running a command, from a root account, as a regular user.
[06:41] <mzz> rdw200169: true. I forgot if such a tool is installed by default or not.
[06:42] <mzz> Gnea: sudo can be used for the latter too, right?
[06:42] <rdw200169> mzz, that's why i mentioned tracker, it's default, and even puts it's little magnifying glass on the gnome taskbar/menubar whatzit so you can easily 'search'
[06:42] <mzz> (sudo -u username)
[06:42] <adante> Gnea: hm but sudo -u
[06:42] <adante> yeah what mzz said
[06:42] <adante> anyway my question is not what do they do
[06:42] <adante> but why is runas segfaulting
[06:43] <adante> when i issue it with what seems to be syntactically valid arguments
[06:43] <Gnea> adante: runas — program to run daemons as non priviledge users
[06:44] <Gnea> adante: it's not for running regular commands, it's for looped programs that stay running
[06:44] <Gnea> adante: so, yes, sudo -u would be the solution
[06:44] <twain> i did download driver fro linux from ati  hope it install self?
[06:44] <adante> hm, but the program i am running is a daemon that stays running
[06:45] <Gnea> adante: which one?
[06:45] <adante> anyway nm i will just run with sudo -u user cmd  2>&1 > /dev/null & i guess
[06:45] <adante> Gnea: redmine
[06:46] <tritium> twain: ubunth has the ati drivers packaged already.  No need to down load from ati (in fact, can lead to more trouble)
[06:46] <Gnea> twain: shouldn't have to download from ati.com, but from the ubuntu repository - xorg-driver-fglrx is what you need
[06:46] <twain> ok give me link where i can download gnea
[06:47] <Gnea> twain: no need, just type this in a terminal:  sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:47] <cakey> dsfargeg
[06:47] <mgmuscari> looks like i dropped in at the right moment - people discussing ati drivers
[06:48] <Gnea> twain: when you reconfigure your Xserver, just tell it to use FGLRX from the list
[06:48] <twain> ok i never done terminal sorry i will do copy what y say k?
[06:48] <mgmuscari> does anybody here have any info that's newer than november on dri2 support?
[06:48] <Gnea> mgmuscari: yes, it's become a rather popular subject this evening :)
[06:48] <mgmuscari> gnea: i'm getting frustrated with flickering, as i imagine a lot of people are ;)
[06:49] <Gnea> mgmuscari: hopefully you're monitor is set to 60HZ or higher
[06:49] <Gnea> *your
[06:49] <bobbyyu> I forgot about something, after I installed Ubuntu, I forgot if MP3 is originally suported. Can someone refresh my memory? I'm sorry!
[06:49] <bobbyyu> I mean on Rhythmbox
[06:50] <Gnea> bobbyyu: of course
[06:50] <trent1> hi, i have been here a couple times and found that you guys are really helpful, and was wondering if you could help me with one more problem. i just bought a lightscribe capable dvd/cd burner and am looking for a label maker
[06:50] <tritium> !mp3 | bobbyyu
[06:50] <mgmuscari> gnea: indeed. i'm on a thinkpad w500. any opengl or windowed video flickers when i'm using compiz fusion. this seems to be a very, very common problem, since there aren't any ati drivers right now with dri2 support
[06:50] <trent1> i have the "basic" one i'm looking for one that can do greyscale pictures
[06:50] <Gnea> mgmuscari: ouch... I'm not sure... perhaps ubuntuforums.org has some discussion
[06:50] <mgmuscari> gnea: but i haven't heard anything since november regarding this support. it seems like people just stopped talking about it.
[06:51] <mzz> mgmuscari: I'm optimistic and assuming they stopped talking because they're coding
[06:51] <mzz> mgmuscari: I have absolutely no evidence for this though. I just like being optimistic :)
[06:52] <twain> termial :wain@twain-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:52] <twain> Reading package lists... Done
[06:52] <twain> Building dependency tree
[06:52] <twain> Reading state information... Done
[06:52] <twain> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[06:52] <twain> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[06:52] <twain>   libscrollkeeper0
[06:52] <mgmuscari> mzz: i should hope so. i wish i knew more about linux drivers and ati's hardware so that i could contribute
[06:52] <twain> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[06:52] <twain> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:52] <twain> twain@twain-desktop:~$
[06:52] <twain> gnea  got it ?
[06:52] <ashlessburn> noppers
[06:52] <mgmuscari> this stupid dri2 issue is the only thing preventing this setup from being really sweet
[06:52] <ashlessburn> god i wish u were here that would make things easier
[06:53] <Gnea> twain: please use http://pastebin.com next time
[06:53] <ashlessburn> or sudo update......the prgram
[06:53] <ashlessburn> lol
[06:53] <tritium> twain: please don't paste
[06:53] <mgmuscari> ashlessburn: i seem to remember seeing something the other day about a remote support tool for linux
[06:53] <ashlessburn> tritium is being nice u can tell
[06:53]  * Gnea wonders what happened to the floodbots
[06:54] <rww> Gnea: temporary hiccup, I think
[06:54] <mzz> mgmuscari: aww, now you had me go to cgit.freedesktop.org and find no commits on the relevant branches (I think) since november :(
[06:54] <Gnea> rww: seems to be a lot of aftershocks lately...
[06:54] <mgmuscari> mzz: yeah that's why i've been miffed :(
[06:54] <trent1> nevermind found it in the forum. :) have a nice day
[06:54] <trent1> ... or night
[06:54] <twain> ok sorry  it my first time i am learning...  forgvian me
[06:54] <ashlessburn> wait till the 14th this forum will be packed
[06:54] <tritium> twain: no problem
[06:55] <Gnea> ashlessburn: a couple days ago, the channel neared 1500 users
[06:55] <Gnea> not sure if it broke it or not
[06:55] <twain> so next what i do?
[06:55] <twain> about driver
[06:56] <Gnea> twain: checking
[06:56] <ashlessburn> really
[07:00] <Gnea> twain: try System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[07:02] <twain> gnea  i am on hardrive driver it say "ati.amd proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[07:02] <mattycoze> hey everyone; i've got a problem with qtoctave, it is installed but whenever i run the program i get this error Error: /home/mattycoze/.qtoctave/menus not found
[07:03] <mzz> twain: what was the actual problem again? How are you determining you do not have (enough) 3d acceleration?
[07:03] <quadaptor> i compiled curl and now i'm trying to execute it on an other pc. on execute, an error occurred: "-bash: ./curl: No such file or directory".  the file exists (file ./curl => "./curl: ELF 64-bit LSB exe..."). it exists an tool to diagnose an file (header, etc.), but i forget the name. any idea?
[07:04] <mzz> quadaptor: "ldd ./curl" on the failing host
[07:04] <mzz> quadaptor: anything listed as "not found" in the output?
[07:04] <quadaptor> ldd => -bash: ./curl: No such file or directory
[07:04] <Gnea> twain: okay, now click on the 'activate' button
[07:04] <mzz> huh
[07:04] <twain> when i click chess game but  unable 3D beacuse no python openGL support and no Python GTKGLExt support"
[07:05] <mzz> twain: that could mean you don't have the relevant python packages installed.
[07:05] <mzz> Can someone think of a better test app than glxgears to confirm 3d works?
[07:05] <twain> driver is activated now
[07:05] <twain> mzz then how can i solve w mt?
[07:06] <mattycoze> HELP: Have a problem with QTOctave front-end for some reason I get Error: qtoctave/menus not found
[07:06]  * mzz arguably shouldn't be trying to help in here when he's not actually in ubuntu, it makes it hard to check basic stuff like this
[07:06] <asc> Under a fresh install of 8.04, trying to start ion3 via GDM flashes a black screen then GDM restarts. Can anybody help with this?
[07:06] <twain> MZZ i need go download for python package?
[07:06] <mzz> twain: not manually, just make sure the package is installed and working
[07:07] <Gnea> twain: actually, mzz is right - try glxgears
[07:07] <mattycoze> do i need the GTK QT stuff installed?
[07:07] <mzz> twain: because I'm not actually in ubuntu right now I can't conveniently look up the relevant package name
[07:07] <mzz> asc: huh, and you don't get gdm's usual "the session lasted less than..." dialog?
[07:07] <Gnea> twain: once you activate, you need to make sure you're actually using the fglrx - it should ask you to restart
[07:07] <rodolfo> hi! How can I tell Firefox to handle specific IRC URL and to open it with GNOME-xchat? (e.g. irc://irc.pretome.net:6667/<channelname>)?
[07:07] <mzz> asc: anything in ~/.xsession-errors afterwards?
[07:07] <mzz> asc: (you'll have to look there before starting a new (working) session or it'll overwrite it...)
[07:07] <twain> gnea  y mean glxgears in software install?
[07:08] <asc> mzz: No, and no. Does it clear .xsession-errors when you start a new session?
[07:08] <mzz> twain: no, try to run that
[07:08] <mak_> Hi every one ,,,i Have Problem with openvpn connection with my newely upgraded Ubuntu-9.04 Alpha Jaunty release,,, Any Help ?
[07:08] <asc> Ah, okay. I will test this shortly.
[07:08] <Flannel> mak_: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks
[07:08] <Gnea> twain: open a terminal and type:  glxgears
[07:08] <twain> ok gnea  brb
[07:09] <Gnea> asc?
,,,where can i Find that Channel to chat ?
[07:09] <mak_> #ubuntu+1
[07:09] <mak_> ?
[07:09] <Flannel> mak_: #ubuntu+1 is for Jaunty, since it's still a development release
[07:09] <twain> i am back  it pop up graphix 3 gear moving...
[07:09] <Flannel> mak_: /join #ubuntu+1
[07:09] <mak_> okay thankx for your support
[07:09] <mzz> twain: so opengl isn't completely broken. I bet this is actually a python problem, not an opengl one.
[07:09] <Gnea> twain: is it fast?
[07:10] <mzz> twain: does "python -c 'import OpenGL'" give you an ImportError exception or no output?
[07:10] <mattycoze> I Have a problem with QTOctave front-end for some reason I get this Error: /../qtoctave/menus not found does anyone know what the problem *could* be?
[07:10] <twain> it look fast gear but screen blackground little flash
[07:11] <Gnea> hmmm
[07:11] <twain> mzz i dont see any error show up to me??
,,,i Guess Nobody is their to chat with in #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:11] <mgmuscari> mzz: so you think it's looking bad for dri2, eh?
[07:11] <mzz> twain: no output is good. Sec.
[07:11] <Gnea> mak_: please be patient
[07:12] <drash> twain: chess game 3D related fix --> http://onlinefixation.blogspot.com/2009/02/enable-3d-in-chess-ubuntu-810-intrepid.html
[07:12] <mzz> mgmuscari: I'm sort of in the same boat as you, wondering if I could learn enough about drivers in a sane amount of time to help this along
,,,No it's an urgent issue with my   openvpn connection
[07:12] <mzz> twain: what about "python
[07:12] <mzz> err
[07:12] <mgmuscari> mzz: my thoughts exactly. too much going on with work right now to get into it though :'(
[07:12] <mzz> twain: what about "python -c 'import gtk.gtkgl'"?
[07:12] <Gnea> !patience > mak_
[07:12] <twain> hold pls..
[07:12] <mgmuscari> mzz: what graphics chipset are you running?
[07:13] <mzz> mgmuscari: 9600xt
[07:13] <mgmuscari> mzz: man, that's something that should be very well supported by now. i feel your pain
[07:13] <Gnea> drash: awesome :)
[07:13] <asc> Whoever was helping me: The .xsession-errors file contained "XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 103 requests (93 known processed) with 1 events remaining."
[07:13] <mak_> Sorry for the Mis Behaviour,,,i apologise
[07:13] <mgmuscari> mzz: at first i thought it was just because i have a weird mobile card. firegl v5700
[07:14] <mzz> mgmuscari: it works quite nicely as long as I don't try to do anything 3d-ish while compiz is compositing. google earth runs ok, compiz runs ok (including textured xv), just both at the same time breaks.
[07:14] <vostibackle> I have some kind of keyboard shortcut like command+V that keeps making my terminals explode and go off the screen so I can't resize them
[07:14] <drash> Gnea: no problem, stumbled onto that page only yesterday (and not won one chess game since)
[07:14] <Flannel> mak_: #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask, not here.  This channel is for support of full fledged releases
[07:14] <vostibackle> what would cause that?
[07:14] <mattycoze> bah has anyone got a frontend to work with Octave?
[07:14] <mgmuscari> mzz: xscreensaver doesn't like to work correctly with compiz
[07:15] <mzz> mgmuscari: yeah, same root issue probably, google earth was just the first 3d app I actually use that came to mind
[07:15] <twain> Drash!   it SOLVE!!!  thanks so much also Gnea and MZZ too!
[07:15] <pogztimz> can some1 pls help me? my computer has a garbled display. i am using VIA Chrome9 GC IGP.
[07:15] <mzz> must've missed (py)gtkglext then
,,,Is i made a mistake by upgrading ubuntu-8.10 to 9.04 Jaunty release package,,, Because it's still in Development Branch ?
[07:16] <rww> mak_: Yes.
[07:16]  * mzz blinks
[07:16] <mgmuscari> mzz: from what i understand, since compiz is opengl any time another process tries to write to the buffer they collide and cause the flickering; somehow lack of dri2 disables a back buffer somewhere along the way...
[07:16] <mzz> I thought that upgrade came with sufficiently scary warnings?
,,,Ohhh it sucks
[07:16] <rww> mzz: apparently not
[07:17] <twain> i curious what kind OS linuix y like better?
[07:17] <mzz> rww: I'm pretty sure the *install* came with scary warnings, I don't think I've tried the dist-upgrade though...
[07:17] <vostibackle> and like if I hit alt+fn+F6 it types out ";3~" wtf?
[07:17] <rww> mak_: You shouldn't be running Jaunty unless you don't mind huge amounts of breakage and having to fix it yourself. It's not supposed to be used by non-developers, and you're expected to mostly support yourself, hence #ubuntu+1 being somewhat barren.
[07:17] <mgmuscari> blah, i just noticed that my system is reporting 3GiB ram when i definitely have (or at least ordered) 4GiB in this thing
[07:17] <genii> mgmuscari: Likely 32bit kernel
[07:18] <MoLoot> twain, ubuntu :)
[07:18] <rww> mgmuscari: If you're using a 32-bit version of Ubuntu, it can only address up to 3.something GB of RAM.
[07:18] <d-b> hi there i can't get some software from multiverse my sources.lst is
[07:18] <d-b> http://pastebin.com/d6783fe8e
[07:18] <d-b> so for example paxtest isn't installable / found
[07:18] <mgmuscari> rww: that would do it. was thinking 2^32, but interesting. don't know enough details about the linux kernel
[07:18] <scrolls2> im thankful for WINE
[07:18] <scrolls2> ll
,,,thankx for the information
[07:18] <twain> moloot that what i use now.. 8.1o  but y know desktop become cube graphic where can i find that??
[07:18] <nanotube> ekiga fails to detect my webcam (says no device found), even though v4l-info shows that it's there, and the webcam works with cheese without any problem. any way to 'force' ekiga to recognize the cam?
[07:19] <nanotube> my webcam is the ps2 eyetoy, btw.
[07:19] <rww> d-b: did you run "sudo apt-get update" after editing your sources.list to add multiverse?
[07:19] <d-b> rww: yes.
[07:19] <d-b> of course
[07:19] <pogztimz> i want to install ubuntu 8.04 on my computer. but i have a problem with display, its garbled. i am using VIA Chrom9 HC IGP on my display
[07:20] <pogztimz> can soem1 pls help me?
[07:20] <rww> d-b: you'd be surprised at how many people don't -_-
[07:20] <mgmuscari> hmmm, i see why it's addressing 3GiB main mem
[07:20] <mgmuscari> i've got 1GiB vram
[07:20] <sloopy> sweet looks like my ap is working
[07:20]  * mzz blinks
[07:20] <mgmuscari> i didn't think about the fact that addressable memory includes memory-mapped devices
[07:20] <mzz> mgmuscari: what display resolution are you running? :P
[07:21] <mgmuscari> mzz: 1920x1200
[07:21] <mzz> eh, nvm
[07:21] <vostibackle> Is there some weird default in the ubuntu keyboard shortcuts for Super L to make a window really huge?
[07:21] <mgmuscari> mzz: native resolution of the TFT panel on this laptop
[07:21] <rww> d-b: anyway. paxtest is in universe. Not sure why you aren't able to install it, though, since you seem to have a universe repository listed there
[07:21] <d-b> i found my problem its only released for i386
[07:21] <vostibackle> I think I cleared it by setting another thing to Super L and then clearing that, but I'm curious what the heck that's useful for
[07:22] <mattycoze> does anyone have an idea where i might be able to find an old version of Octave (3.0.0)?
[07:22] <constantine_> Hi I accidentally deleted my panel at the bottom where the minimized windows *usually* go, how do I get those back?
[07:23] <constantine_> I got the panel itself back, also
[07:23] <twain> mzz  y know desktop wallpaper become cube with move other desktop side?
[07:23] <baddog> right click on the panel, and click 'Add to Panel...'
[07:23] <baddog> then add 'Window List'
[07:23] <mzz> twain: that sentence didn't parse (also I'm about to drop off irc)
[07:24] <constantine_> baddog: thanks
[07:24] <baddog> np
[07:24] <mgmuscari> twain: sounds like you're talking about compiz fusion?
[07:24] <Flannel> mak_: It's certainly not something we recommend people do on production machines, yes.
[07:24] <twain> ok  what mean compiz fusion?  sorry my english bad..
[07:25] <mgmuscari> it's a window manager
[07:25] <mgmuscari> if you want to have the spinning cube and such you need to install it
[07:25] <twain> mgmuscari  yes that one!   where can i find install?
[07:25] <mgmuscari> twain: are you using gnome or kde?
[07:26] <twain> i think i use kde on ubuntu
[07:26] <mgmuscari> twain: also, what make is your graphics card?
[07:26] <mgmuscari> twain: ati/nvidia?
[07:26] <twain> it  ATI  rad. 9600
[07:26] <nanotube> ekiga fails to detect my webcam (says no device found), even though v4l-info shows that it's there, and the webcam works with cheese without any problem. any way to 'force' ekiga to recognize the cam (ps2 eyetoy, in case it matters)
[07:26] <mgmuscari> twain: if you install compiz fusion, you will have flickering problems with 3d programs and video
[07:27] <samurai_> join #c
[07:27] <baddog> heh
[07:27] <mgmuscari> twain: i have been looking for a solution for this problem for a while and as of now there is no driver fix for it
[07:27] <trygg> theres no trouble with mounting a hdd within your homefolder is there?
[07:27] <chetnick> hi, i am have vmware workstation on ubuntu. Very often i cannot use sound on my guest (windows) operating system, i get an error "device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy". How can i see what application on my host operating system is using /dev/dsp, and how can i disable application from using it? Any help would be appreciated.
[07:27] <twain> so i will need other better video card?  i have other ATI 9800?
[07:27]  * baddog just uses fusion-icon to make it easy to turn compiz on and off
[07:28] <mgmuscari> twain: ati drivers currently do not support a technology called dri2, which is required for compiz fusion to play nicely with other opengl applications
[07:28] <mgmuscari> baddog: good idea, thanks for the tip... does it toggle between metacity e.g. and compiz?
[07:28] <baddog> yup
[07:28] <baddog> and any other WM you care to use :D
[07:28] <twain> ok then what kind video i need?
[07:28] <mgmuscari> baddog: nice... where can i find it?
[07:29] <mak_> I had problem with running openvpn script ,,,and I Got warning message like  WARNING: potential route subnet conflict between local LAN [192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0] and remote VPN [192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0]
[07:29] <mak_> ?
[07:29] <Gnea> twain: nvidia is pretty nice
[07:29] <mgmuscari> twain: you can try it out, it'll work with ati. you'll just see flickering with certain apps
[07:29] <baddog> apt-get install fusion-icon
[07:29] <Gnea> twain: geforce 8600 would do
[07:29] <mgmuscari> baddog: thx :D
[07:29] <baddog> np
[07:29] <homeskill> what does 'LTS' mean?
[07:29] <twain> ok  i have geforce 8200 coming
[07:29] <Gnea> !LTS
[07:29] <mgmuscari> twain: to install compiz fusion for kde, run the following
[07:29] <alap> hi, I had written code for a lcd driver but don't know how to install it using modprobe. please can anyone help me about the procedure like what all the places where i have to copy driver.ko file and after that what i have to do?
[07:29] <nanotube> homeskill: long term support
[07:29] <mgmuscari> homeskill: long term support
[07:29] <Gnea> twain: oh that will do great
[07:29] <piti_> mak_: thaht's because in you config in your server push the route to 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 to client
[07:29] <homeskill> thkx
[07:30] <piti_> mak_: and you client already in the 192.168.1.0/255.255.0.0
[07:30] <twain> yes gnea =)
,,, How can i do that ,,,,And when i run my openvpn script,,, I loose my internet connectivity
[07:30] <mak_> plz help me to reolve
[07:30] <nanotube> alap: stick your .ko into /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/extra/ (use appropriate kernel version), then run "sudo depmod -a", then you can "modprobe" it.
[07:30] <piti_> mak_: or in a more simple word-> server try to get the client to route 192.168.xxx.yyy while the client already know how to route 192.168.1.xxx
[07:31] <trygg> or do it have to be in /mnt/?
[07:31] <piti_> mak_: do you have access to openvpn server?
[07:31] <mak_> yes i have,,,
[07:31] <twain> appliction-acc- only i have kde group wizrd
[07:31] <piti_> mak_: and which server on server side you want your client to be able to see?
[07:31] <chetnick> no one?
[07:31] <baddog> trygg, as far as I know, there's nothing that's making you mount in /mnt/
[07:31] <chetnick> :S
[07:31] <alap> nanotube: k i'll try that..
[07:31] <baddog> but I'm not completely sure
[07:32] <piti_> mak_: all of 192.168.xxx.yyy are way too many
,,,,we use to connect internet connection through openvpn keys,,,so that we can have access to private areas,,,
[07:32] <twain> how long you been on linux? gnea
[07:33] <rww> mak_: Did you switch back to Intrepid in the last 20 minutes, or are you flouting the "No Jaunty support here" line?
,,,,,192.168.1.1
[07:33] <piti_> mak_: just one server?
[07:33] <piti_> mak_: then in your server config file there should be a line say something like
[07:33] <genii> nanotube: install packages:  libpt-plugins-v4l libpt-plugins-v4l2 libpt-plugins-avc libpt-plugins-dc            and try again
[07:33] <mak_> yes only one server
[07:33] <piti_> mak_: push route 192.168.0.0 255.255.0.0
[07:34] <piti_> mak_: change that to 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.255
,,,,i m here chatting related to network issue not the Jaunty (or) interpid issue
[07:34] <cjae> everytime I install something via apt-get it says Setting up cupswrapperhl2040 (2.0.1-2) ...
[07:34] <twain> mgmuscari?
[07:34] <mgmuscari> twain: what's up
[07:35] <mgmuscari> twain: did you get my PM?
[07:35] <piti_> mak_: actually that wouldn't get rid of you message.. though
[07:35] <piti_> mak_: you will also need to put your client subnet to something different
[07:35] <cjae> then I tries to restart cupsd then cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/cups/model/HL2040.ppd': No such file or directory
,,,I had heimdal-clients ,,, instead of push....
[07:35] <nanotube> genii: hm, so, there are libptplugins v1.10.10 (installed, in main), and libptplugins v 1.11.2 (not installed, in universe). should i go for v 1.11?
[07:35] <mgmuscari> baddog: noob question... where the heck do i enable fusion-icon once i install it?
[07:36] <baddog> well, it's under Applications->System
[07:36] <piti_> mak_: i mean in your server configuration file
[07:36] <baddog> gah
[07:36] <piti_> mak_: not in your client config file
[07:36] <mgmuscari> baddog: ah, thanks
[07:36] <baddog> where do you add a program to auto-start?
 ,,,oh wait a minute
[07:37] <nanotube> genii: also, the -avc and the -dc plugins claim they are for firewire devices only, and the cam is usb... so would that really be necessary? (they are not currently installed)
[07:37]  * baddog has completely forgotten
[07:37] <genii> nanotube: Probably
[07:37] <genii> nanotube: The -avc and -dc plugins shouldn't be essential if usb
[07:37] <surjeet> hi
[07:38] <cjae> then #/usr/local/Brother/cupswrapper/cupswrapperHL2040-2.0.1: 64: cannot create /usr/share/cups/model/HL2040.ppd: Directory nonexistent
[07:38] <surjeet> how to install lamp
[07:38] <piti_> mak_: actually I don't quite understand what you are trying to do. Can you explain to me what you are trying to accomplish?
[07:38] <mattycoze> does anyone know a good alternative to SPSS and or MATLAB?
,,, CHeck my private message
[07:38] <mak_> to u
[07:38] <jtaji> mattycoze: there's scilab and gnu octave
[07:38] <surjeet> hi piti
[07:38] <nanotube> genii: so, "probably" to installing the latest v1.11 plugins?
[07:39] <pogztimz> i want to install ubuntu 8.04 on my computer. but i have a problem with display, its garbled. i am using VIA Chrom9 HC IGP on my display
[07:39] <pixelated> coo my new router works...
[07:39] <nanotube> mattycoze: R
[07:39] <pixelated> with wireless :')
[07:39] <genii> nanotube: Yes, sorry 1.10 to 1.11
[07:39] <surjeet> how to install lamp
[07:39] <nanotube> mattycoze: also look at octave
[07:39] <mattycoze> nanotube & jtaji do any of them come with a GUI
[07:39] <piti_> sudo apt-get install blah blah
[07:39] <mattycoze> nanotube i did try octave; but none of the gui's worked for me :(
[07:39] <jtaji> mattycoze: scilab does, not sure about octave
[07:39] <nanotube> mattycoze: there's a gui for r called rkward. don't know about octave.
[07:39] <mattycoze> nanotube is rkward good in your opinion?
[07:40] <nanotube> mattycoze: i've heard that it's pretty good. never used it myself, i write my code with my keyboard, and that's the way i like it. :)
[07:40] <genii> cjae: Try: sudo mkdir /usr/share/cups/model                and try again
[07:40] <mattycoze> nanotube heh well i'm just starting off with advanced stats; multivariate analysis, MANOVA etc...
[07:40] <surjeet> how to install lamp
[07:41] <surjeet> please help me
[07:41] <jtaji> surjeet: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[07:41] <mattycoze> SPSS makes it easy enough; but when I get used to everything I might start switching to command line functions etc.
[07:41] <nanotube> mattycoze: if you are "in it for the long haul", learn the code. if you are in it just for a class or something and don't really care, then you can get away with a gui. :)
[07:41] <homeskill> does postgres come with ubuntu 8.10?
[07:42] <nanotube> homeskill: it must be in the repos somewhere...
[07:42] <homeskill> i cant remember if i installed it or if it came that way
[07:42] <cjae> genii:  ill pastebin the whole thing for you
[07:43] <pogztimz> surjeet: wat version of ubuntu server u want to install?
[07:43] <mattycoze> nanotube; with the command line functions; how on earth would you generate graphs and stuff like that.
[07:43] <nanotube> homeskill: you must have installed it. i don't think it's in by default.
[07:43] <nanotube> mattycoze: the plot() command comes in handy. :)
[07:43] <surjeet> ok thanks prossesing is runing
[07:43] <nanotube> mattycoze: if you're gonna use R, there is /tons/ of documentation on r-project.org
[07:44] <homeskill> how can i tell if i installed software or if ubuntu came with it preintalled?
[07:44] <nanotube> mattycoze: you can generate all kinds of fancy graphics. :)
[07:44] <mattycoze> really?
[07:44] <nanotube> mattycoze: yes, really. :)
[07:45] <surjeet> how to install php
[07:45] <jtaji> surjeet: it will be installed when you installed lamp-server
[07:46] <nanotube> genii: new versions didn't help any. still same problem.
[07:46] <cjae> genii: http://pastebin.ca/1334646
[07:47] <genii> nanotube: Maybe output of: ekiga -d 4     pastebinned may help narrow down the suspect list
[07:47] <genii> cjae: Reading
[07:47] <Sifre>  You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:47] <Sifre> E: Couldn't find package libapache-mod-php4
[07:47] <Sifre> what is problem
[07:47] <nanotube> genii: i even ran it with -d 6. didn't see anything useful. but well, let me pastebinit...
[07:47] <alap> nanotube: I did what you have asked me to but when ever i am looking for the path given to check if .ko is copied or not i am unable to find directory modules.
[07:48] <surjeet> php is invild in lemp server ?
[07:48] <tim_jenssen> moin - anybody here? I have kubuntu and now I need a newer version of dbus, then I become from aptitude - which is the best way? - compile a version and copy the pkg files /usr/lib/pkgconfig ?
[07:48] <Sifre> surjeet
[07:48] <Sifre> yes
[07:48] <nanotube> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117168/
[07:48] <Sifre> ým how to install php?
[07:48] <Sifre> for debian
[07:48] <Sifre> there channel +b
[07:48] <Sifre> no join..
[07:49] <Sifre> all user.
[07:49] <nanotube> alap: please clarify what you are saying. what path are you looking for?
[07:49] <surjeet> yes
[07:50] <genii> cjae: The first command had no argument of what package to install... but anyhow, to try : sudo mkdir /usr/share/cups/model/  && sudo dpkg --configure cupswrapperhl2040
[07:50] <genii> nanotube: Reading
[07:50] <surjeet> how to install asp.net
[07:51] <alap> nanotube: /lib/modules/2.6.24-21-i386/extra/ this is the path where i copied my .ko file
[07:51] <nanotube> alap: ok, so?
[07:51] <cjae> genii: thanks for letting me know you reading, it is nice, I thought the goofy printing was due to using a driver that may not be for the exact model of, which when I checked it wasn't thats why I installed the .deb from brother, the printer seems to be working though
[07:51] <surjeet> please help me
[07:51] <surjeet> how to install asp.net
[07:52] <genii> nanotube: Bleh. No other ideas offhand
[07:52] <alap> but when i looked for that path to check where exactly .ko file is copied i am unable to locate dir modules
[07:53] <mgmuscari> surjeet: if you're going to be developing asp .net stuff you probably want to be in windows...
[07:53] <nanotube> genii: well, thanks for looking, at any rate. :) in case this helps: the /sys/class/video4linux does have the symlink to the cam... v4l-info shows it's there... maybe a newer version of ekiga would help? how easy is it to get ekigav3 to install on intrepid (which comes with v2)?
[07:53] <surjeet> but can we run on this or not
[07:54] <nanotube> alap: if you do "ls -al /lib/modules/2.6.24-21-i386/extra/" is your stuff there?
[07:54] <cjae> genii: ok worked no error, did that folder somehow get deleted
[07:54] <genii> cjae: Good. So now: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:54] <genii> nanotube: Not sure, haven't tried it
[07:55] <cjae> genii: yes I did that no error
[07:55] <surjeet> my lamp server is taking more time
[07:55] <genii> cjae: The packaging system should be unstuck now
[07:55] <Angin_Bukit> hiiiiiiiii
[07:55] <cjae> yes it is
[07:55] <cjae> all good
[07:55] <surjeet> hi
[07:56] <surjeet> hi cjae
[07:57] <nanotube> genii: ok, well, thanks for trying my friend. :) i'll save it for another day and go to sleep. :)
[07:57] <surjeet> i am install ing lamp-server but this is taking more time
[07:57] <Sifre> irc.evdekaldim.net
[07:57] <genii> nanotube: Best luck and dream well
[07:57] <mattycoze> nanotube do you use the R Command functions?
[07:57] <cjae> genii: thanks
[07:57] <alap> nanotube: no. ls: cannot access usr/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-386/extra/: No such file or directory
[07:57] <genii> cjae: welcome
[07:58] <Sifre> Turkis Server irc.evdekaldim.net Thanks
[07:59] <nanotube> alap: well, so your copy obviously failed... maybe you needed to create the "extras" directory first? maybe you needed to use "sudo"? i don't know what you did or what output was generated from your "cp" command...
[07:59] <cjae> genii: now I have two printers in my printer list
[08:00] <nanotube> mattycoze: what do you mean ? all R commands are functions...
[08:00] <surjeet> how to install dreamviewer
[08:00] <Angin_Bukit> dor
[08:00] <mgmuscari> dreamviewer? dreamweaver?
[08:01] <genii> cjae: I guess you'll need to delete one if it bothers you
[08:01] <mattycoze> d.w nanotube
[08:01] <cjae> never touched anything and now is gone so thanks again genii
[08:02] <nanotube> mattycoze: d.w = ?
[08:02] <mattycoze> don't worry.
[08:02] <nanotube> mattycoze: heh ic. :)
[08:02] <nanotube> mattycoze: i suggest to start with reading "an introduction to R", the nice pdf available on r-project.org in the documentation section.
[08:02]  * genii hands cjae a coffee, and has another one himself
[08:03] <ActionParsnip1> !cookie genii
[08:03] <nanotube> mattycoze: that will quickly give you an idea of what's up with R and gow things work.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip1> !cookie | genii
[08:03]  * genii munches
[08:03]  * cjae stares at screen in bewilderment
[08:03] <mattycoze> lol yer only 100 pages.
[08:03] <nanotube> !cake |genii
[08:03] <nanotube> haha
[08:03] <genii> ActionParsnip1: Thanks, I needed a sugar rush  ;)
[08:03] <ActionParsnip1> genii: hehe well its early doors now
[08:04]  * cjae drinks tea cause coffee has rotted guts but appreciates offer
[08:05] <nanotube> mattycoze: well... it is what it is. :)
[08:06] <nanotube> mattycoze:  you do not expect the most powerful and flexible statistical computing language in the world to be documentable in a page, do you? :)
[08:07] <ActionParsnip1> nanotube: it could be ;)
[08:07] <nanotube> ActionParsnip1: heh i like your optimism :)
[08:07] <req^> what would be a nice way to sort of grep some information on login? I would like to see command output between two lines, not just the two lines that match grep "something"..
[08:07] <ActionParsnip1> nanotube: could be a single page with the word "avoid!" on it.....good manual
[08:09] <Tex-Twil> hello
[08:09] <ActionParsnip1> !hi | Tex-Twil
[08:09] <Tex-Twil> please how can I display the DNS cache in Linux ?
[08:09] <nanotube> ActionParsnip1: "mostly harmless" ? :)
[08:13] <savvas> is the mount type ntfs using ntfs-3g driver?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> Tex-Twil: according to this it doesnt have one unless you install one: http://www.debianadmin.com/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing-on-ubuntu-system.html
[08:14]  * ActionParsnip1 makes a note to install this later
[08:14] <Tex-Twil> ok I have a look
[08:15] <Tex-Twil> so other question, can I use a different port for DNS protocol ?
[08:15] <Tex-Twil> I want to have a new entry in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> i guess you could
[08:16] <Tex-Twil> with the ip of my DNS server which has another port
[08:16] <Tex-Twil> actually, the server is 127.0.0.1 .. it is a ssh tunnel and I want the DNS erquest to be passed to the ssh tunnel
[08:17] <Tex-Twil> requests*
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> just try: nameserver 100.10.50.7 24333
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> Tex-Twil: see if it works, it might use a : instead of a spce
[08:17] <Tex-Twil> ok
[08:19] <Tex-Twil> it doesn't seem to work ActionParsnip1
[08:19] <surjeet> how to install lamp
[08:19] <ActionParsnip1> !lamp | surjeet
[08:19] <ActionParsnip1> Tex-Twil: try man resolv.conf
[08:20] <rww> !away > away_man_ftl
[08:20] <ActionParsnip1> !away > ActionParsnip
[08:20] <surjeet> how to install php
[08:20] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: its in the guide
[08:21] <Mohammad[B]> Hi All
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: here's the command: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: the guide tells you all you need to know
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> rww: ubottu didnt tell me anything
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> !botsnack
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> !away > ActionParsnip
[08:22] <rww> !msgthebot > ActionParsnip1
[08:22] <Mohammad[B]> My Ubuntu don't back to hibernate time, and boot normally, and don't show the splash window and boot in text, and then going to gdm, how to i can resolve it ? :-s
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> rww: yeah that works..maybe we can't make ubottu address ourselves
[08:22] <rww> ActionParsnip1: you forgot the 1 on the end of your name
[08:22] <kebomix> hello , any body here hold  LPI certificate ?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip1> rww: ahh, I'm logged in on my server, thanks
[08:23] <ags4f> yogyakarta
[08:23] <Tex-Twil> ActionParsnip1, it looks like resolv.conf don't accept any port params
[08:24] <savvas> kebomix: not me, but are you interested in taking the exam for it?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip1> Tex-Twil: bah
[08:24] <Tex-Twil> I will just run my socks proxy on port 53
[08:25] <balachmar> Hi, how do I get ubuntu working with a beamer?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> balachmar: install a PC in the boot :)
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> balachmar: and put a monitor in your cup holder :)
[08:26] <dmphotography> Hey, forgive me, but proftpd channel is DEAD and has been for the past several hours, so I was hoping someone here that knows how to bind to IP can private chat with me.
[08:26] <balachmar> ActionParsnip1: It was a real question
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> balachmar: what's a beamer (when its not a car)
[08:26] <balachmar> The mirror screens option in resultion does not work
[08:27] <balachmar> ActionParsnip1: A projector?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip1> balachmar: oh i see
[08:27] <linxuz3r> linux is really cool
[08:27] <balachmar> Or just I want to use the vga out port on my laptop, for another monitor or beamer(projector)
[08:27] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: how do you mean "bind to an ip"
[08:27] <ActionParsnip1> !dualhead | balachmar
[08:28] <linxuz3r> ActionParsnip1: do you have nvidia?
[08:28] <dmphotography> Well, I was using the directive DefaultAddress and yet I'm still able to connect from other IPs other than the one it's suppose to be "bound" to.
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> balachmar: you need to configure an extra display in xorg.conf (nvidia tool will help lots if you use nvidia)
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> linxuz3r: its ALL I use in my systems
[08:28] <dmphotography> Meaning I don't want it listing on any other IP other than the one I specify.
[08:28] <linxuz3r> ActionParsnip1: so you might as well use twinview
[08:28] <balachmar> ActionParship1: I have intel graphics. And why then does it actually recognise the second screen?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> linxuz3r: its for balachmar dude
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> balachmar: you havent told your system its there yet
[08:30] <linxuz3r> well now gnome seems to not launch properly
[08:30] <balachmar> ActionParship1: But the system detects the extra monitor fine! Then it should be able to use it as well (at least from a user perspective)
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: do you mean set a static ip?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> balachmar: so if you plug a standrd monitor to the system it runs ok?
[08:31] <linxuz3r> guys
[08:31] <balachmar> ActionParship1: No, it detects the monitor in the resolution settings (even gets the brand right), however,  the second display doesn't not display anything
[08:31] <dmphotography> No, I'm using Hamachi to create my VPN and therefore I only want the FTP server to respond when someone is connected to hamachi using the Hamachi IP.  It shouldn't listen on port 21 for my regular IP but it does.
[08:31] <linxuz3r> why is my app all of a suddent wont launch properly
[08:32] <linxuz3r> it just show the window and some pictures on the window but wont launch fully
[08:32] <syockit> is there a method to make pam poll for 2 types of auth in parallel? I want the fingerprint reader to work while it's asking for my password
[08:33] <linxuz3r> later guys
[08:33] <dmphotography> Since proftpd is probably the most popular FTP program used for an FTP server on Linux, I was hoping I could find someone who perhaps could help me.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> linxeh: run it from terminal, you will get outputs from the crashing app
[08:35] <amaache> Hi
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: you may find vsftpd is, but popular doesnt make it the best, I prefer proftpd myself, redhat use vsftpd
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> balachmar: i'd read some guides about how to setup an extra screen with the second monitor
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> !dualhead | balachmar
[08:35] <balachmar> yeah yeah already got that one
[08:35] <amaache> :-) i need a Rapidshare account to download a medical docs help me please :-)
[08:36] <shay26> does someone know or can recommend on good rapidshare downloader for Ubuntu ?
[08:36] <Daemonic> jdownloader
[08:36] <ikonia> amaache how is rapid share account an ubuntu proble ?
[08:36] <Daemonic> shay26: jdownloader
[08:38] <amaache> Ubuntu is Ok; i use jdownloader for downloading a medical docs but i havent a Rapidshare account and ask if you have :-) a RS account for me?
[08:38] <ikonia> ammache that is nothing to do with ubuntu, please don't ask here
[08:39] <amaache> where can i ask?
[08:39] <ikonia> amaache, not here
[08:39] <dmphotography> Well I went with proftpd because for one it has the gui.
[08:40] <Tex-Twil> ActionParsnip1, FYI : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6721193#post6721193
[08:40] <dmphotography> I couldn't for the life of me figure the configuration out without the gui.  I'm not a developer.
[08:40] <dmphotography> I found the problem.
[08:40] <dmphotography> I had to add the directive SocketBindTight on.
[08:41] <shubbar> i have a wide screen and most games that run in full screen get choped and i cannot see the lower part
[08:41] <ikonia> shubbar games in wine ?
[08:41] <innociv> do many of you use a VPS?
[08:41] <shubbar> ikonia, no
[08:41] <ikonia> shubber which native linux games
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: most conf files are in fairly straight english, or well documented both in man pages and online
[08:42] <shubbar> ikonia, recently, "i have no tomatoes"
[08:42] <ikonia> shubbar, oh, not heard of that one
[08:43] <Cybertinus> hello
[08:43] <shubbar> some have the option to turn off fullscreen, but its hard when i cannot see the menu option in the lower part
[08:43] <Cybertinus> hello
[08:43] <ikonia> cybertinus hi
[08:43] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: Yeah, but I have difficulties making sense of the directives sometimes or how they should be used.
[08:43] <high0wl> ello
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> shubbar: use alt + drag. Alt lets you grab an app window in any place
[08:43] <luftyx> hi..
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: true, but its fun to learn
[08:43] <Cybertinus> sry for the 2 times hello
[08:43] <Cybertinus> my GPRS connection was lagging a bit ;)
[08:44] <dmphotography> Two of my most common problems is 1) There's simply too many directives.  2) I get confused when or where it should be applied at.
[08:44] <anij> I've been doing LFS for last couple of days in virtual box, using jhalfs
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: plus if you can use that file effectively, you can configure the system remotely via ssh :D
[08:44] <anij> for some reason it keeps asking me to be root # before making the system
[08:44] <anij> but i am root when i execute make command
[08:44] <anij> any ideas
[08:44] <shubbar> actionparsnip1, drag you mean mouse drag, it doesn't work in fullscreen mode
[08:45] <dmphotography> LOL, I don't even know what ssh is, so I don't see that happening anytime soon.
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> shubbar: what is in fullscren mode? a web browser? a game?
[08:45] <dmphotography> Remote desktop is my friend.
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: too much bandwidth used when ssh will do
[08:46] <anij> I've been doing linux from scratch for last couple of days in virtual box, using jhalfs; for some reason it keeps asking me to be root # before making the system; but i am root when i execute the make command any ideas?
[08:46] <dmphotography> Yeah.
[08:46] <shubbar> actionparsnip1, a game
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: you can connect to your server via ssh and log on as you and use the system like you were sat at it using terminal
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> shubbar: what game?
[08:46] <Cybertinus> How can I mannually add a program to my menu? I've installed a program, but it doesn't show up :(. I don't know that much about Gnome, I'm more a KDE user ;)
[08:46] <shubbar> ikonia, http://tomatoes.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: you can even install xming and run gui apps over a forwarded x server
[08:47] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: I'm still getting familiar with Linux and it's commands.
[08:47] <shubbar> actionparsnip1, many games, "i have no tomatoes" , xmoto i managed to turn off full screen
[08:47] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: I just converted my web server over to Linux and so far that hasn't been too tough considering I'm new to Linux.
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: a lot of linux is abstracted now, older linux releases were quite harsh for new users (no automount etc)
[08:48] <shubbar> actionparsnip1, "fashion cents" not free but nice, i turn fullscreen off also
[08:48] <iskandar> Hello everybody
[08:48] <frogscott> hello!!!!
[08:48] <genii> !hi
[08:48] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: Speaking of which, how do I tell it to automount a NTFS drive upon startup?
[08:48] <frogscott> shut up ubottou
[08:49] <iskandar> I had a question about VoIP!
[08:49] <dmphotography> ubuntu of course.
[08:49] <frogscott> slap a bot today
[08:49] <Daemonic> !get pos
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> shubbar: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=I%20Have%20No%20Tomatoes
[08:49] <Daemonic> !get laid
[08:49] <dmphotography> LOL.
[08:49] <rww> !ot | Daemonic
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: you'll need ntfs3g and edit /etc/fstab
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> !ntfs3g | dmphotography
[08:50] <balachmar> Hi, me again. I have have something working using i810rotate, however the output is not right for the monitor
[08:50] <respecting> what's the equivalent of dreamwaver in linux?
[08:50] <dmphotography> Well it does read and write to it now.
[08:50] <respecting> what's the equivalent of dreamwaver in linux?
[08:50] <iskandar> What kind of Program can I use for VoIP can anybody answer?
[08:50] <balachmar> And the monitor is complaining that the frequency is out of range...
[08:50] <dmphotography> So I take it Ubuntu 8.10 either came with it or auto-updated it at some point.
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> respecting: bluefish is ok I guess
[08:50] <anij> has anyone done linux from scratch
[08:50] <frogscott> beer..sex...later
[08:50] <dmphotography> But the fstab is the startup config file?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> respecting: you can just use a text editor too, thats all html is
[08:51] <balachmar> I really need to get this fixed. Because I will need to present stuff with this laptop which only has ubuntu on it
[08:51] <rww> anij: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. For LFS discussion you could join #lfs on irc.linuxfromscratch.org
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: fstab tells the system which partitions to mount and how to mount them
[08:52] <anij> lol, trying to build on ubuntu, kk
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: read your current fstab to see what i mean
[08:52] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: Ok, I'm looking at this and where do I get all of the info such as UUID . . . etc. from?
[08:52] <balachmar> So can someone please help me with dualhead on ubuntu?
[08:52] <Daemonic> my ubuntu rubber band broke. I need help.
[08:52] <dmphotography> Is there some where I can get this info if it's currently mounted?
[08:52] <Cybertinus> How can I mannually add a program to my menu? I've installed a program, but it doesn't show up :(. I don't know that much about Gnome, I'm more a KDE user ;)
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: with the ntfs drive you dont need to bother with that
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> !menu
[08:53] <slabbeh> I have found 2 solutions for my wireless card. Should I try the ndiswrapper solution or the madwifi solution?
[08:53] <Cybertinus> dmphotography: start a terminal and run the mount command, then yoou see all the info about all the mounted partitions
[08:53] <Xeross> Hey, i'm using a usb install of kubuntu 8.10 and my ps/2 opitcal mouse ain't working
[08:53] <Xeross> how can i get it to work
[08:53] <dmphotography> !fstab
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> Cybertinus: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-entries-in-gnome-menu.html
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> Xeross: i'd read through dmesg | less to see what's going on, it may give some clues
[08:54] <Cybertinus> thnx ActionParsnip1, gonna check it out
[08:55] <Xeross> how would i open a command prompt on the desktop without mouse ?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> Xeross: alt+f2
[08:55] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: What about finding the info [Device][Mount Point] for a currently mounted volume?
[08:55] <rww> Xeross: Alt-F2, type gnome-terminal, hit enter
[08:55] <Xeross> gnome-terminal in kde ???
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: sudo fdisk -l will show you the device
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> Xeross: i assumed gnome as this is Ubuntu
[08:55] <rww> Xeross: Try konsole instead if you're using KDE
[08:55] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: Thank you very much.
[08:56] <respecting> i want a soft that make me for example in htm drag and drop a table to mypage.html did bluefish do that i'm currenlty downloading it .i miss a lot dreamwaver
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: you manually create a folder to mount to, it can be ANYWHERE except in /proc
[08:56] <Cybertinus> ActionParsnip1: hmm, that isn't  going to work :(. I'm not running Ubuntu, but Easy Peasy. I thougt it was the same trick to add something, but apperently not :). Do you happen to know if Easy Peasy has its own IRC channel?
[08:56] <Milkeh> what was the cmd to rename a directory?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> rww: i think alt+f2 works in kubuntu
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: mv
[08:56] <oskar-> Milkeh, mv
[08:56] <rww> Milkeh: mv
[08:56] <oobe> respecting, is english your second language
[08:57] <rww> ActionParsnip1: It does. I was saying to use konsole instead of gnome-terminal
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> rww: cool
[08:57] <respecting> yes  but i'm very good at english but i write too fast
[08:57] <Xeross> weird last time i pressed alt+f2 nothing happened
[08:57] <respecting> :)
[08:57] <slabbeh> I have found 2 solutions for my wireless card. Should I try the ndiswrapper solution or the madwifi solution?
[08:57] <Xeross> booting it now
[08:57] <oobe> respecting, try open office
[08:57] <Milkeh> thank you
[08:58] <Daemonic> slabbeh: ndiswrapper blows. madwifi all the wya
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> slabbeh: i'd shoot for madwifi as it'll be a native driver
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> slabbeh: only use ndiswrapper as a last ditch
[08:58] <oobe> actually forget i said that i made a mistake respecting
[08:58] <slabbeh> Thanks guys, will give it a go now
[08:59] <oskar-> hi, does anyone know a way to tell network-manager to configure wpa_supplicant with "fast_reauth=0"?
[09:00] <dmphotography> Also speaking of WIFI, I have the R8767(or whatever it's called) chipset and I have a low signal strength.  What gives?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> oskar-: maybe its a module option when its probed
[09:01] <Milkeh> how do I restart the desktop or whatever it's called?
[09:01] <Milkeh> ?
[09:02] <nyaa> milkeh ctrl + alt + backspace
[09:02] <nyaa> see you soon lol
[09:02] <Milkeh> thanks
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> oskar-: edit wpa_supplicant.conf  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-404458.html
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: bad driver
[09:03] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: Is there a way to see what a devices current mount point is?
[09:03] <oskar-> ActionParsnip1, yes, but if it is controlled via network-manager/dbus it does not read a configuration file
[09:03] <dmphotography> The drive apparently has 3 partitions on it.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: run mount with no params
[09:03] <Xeross_> alt+f2 good old cmd
[09:03] <Xeross_> shell*
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> oskar-: it will if you edit the file
[09:03] <Xeross_> ok guys what was the command again
[09:04] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: Thanks again!
[09:04] <rww> Xeross: konsole
[09:04] <Mohammad[B]> My Ubuntu don't back to hibernate time, and boot normally, and don't show the splash window and boot in text, and then going to gdm, how to i can resolve it ? :-s
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> oskar-: the conf file superceed network manager
[09:04] <Xeross_> no am in the shell now, the other command
[09:05] <balachmar> Can someone help me out with getting the external monitor to work on my laptop? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411674 seems to hold information that is way too old. Since xorg.conf doesn't contain that much information anymore...
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> Xeross_: dmesg | less
[09:05] <Milkeh> somebodyyy
[09:05] <oskar-> ActionParsnip1, i was quite sure that i tried this. i will try again ;)
[09:05] <Milkeh> I just changed my menu icons
[09:06] <alap> hi, can anyone tel me about using modprob as i am using it the command is modprob <driver name>, in same directory where my source code and object file is located but whenever i am looking for driver which i had installed using moprobe is not there in directory with same name.
[09:06] <Milkeh> but it just wrecked a lot of my other icons
[09:06] <Milkeh> like my banshee
[09:06] <Milkeh> and I keep getting an error with my network Icon
[09:06] <Milkeh> I replaced index.theme and scalable
[09:06] <mzz> alap: try insmod if you have the path to the file
[09:07] <Xeross_> what should i look for
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: try alacarte
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> Xeross_: any errors or warnings
[09:07] <Xeross_> any search command ?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> !info alacarte
[09:08] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip1: How do I go about finding a good driver for my WIFI card?
[09:08] <Milkeh> actually, what's the command to merge folders?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> Xeross_: i'd suggest reading it, you can press ctrl+w but it may miss stuff
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> dmphotography: lspci will get you started if its internal, or lsubs if its usb
[09:08] <Xeross_> its like 10-20 screens of code
[09:08] <Xeross_> hmm it seems my ram memory is full causing everything to lag badly
[09:09] <Milkeh> does anybody know the command to merge 2 folers?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> Xeross_: yep, its your computer firing up, give it a read, the data will help
[09:10] <Xeross_> ActionParsnip1: I'll go get debian usb persistent version and install fluxbox
[09:11] <juniecho> hi, is there a way to auto-run some commands every boot?
[09:11] <Xeross_> juniecho: rc.local ?
[09:11] <hateball> juniecho: /etc/rc.local is one way
[09:11] <Xeross_> ok guys thx for the help cya
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> gotta love fluxbox :)
[09:11] <juniecho> yes but i don't get it quiet well... is it run as root? i need to run some commands with admin rights
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> juniecho: use sudo for command line apps, gksudo for gui apps
[09:12] <Milkeh> has anybody here ever replaced menu icons?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: only in kde and fluxbox
[09:12] <phantom> Hi all.  I must buy a LCD Monitor with 22-24 and forgot wich the best manufacturers are. ( DELL LG SAMSUNG ????   is BenQ also on the list?
[09:13] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, well heres the problem
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | phantom
[09:13] <phantom> I care much about the collor
[09:13] <juniecho> the commands are: $ sudo su # rmmod forcedeth # modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0 # /etc/init.d/networking restart............... but you know running 'su' is not good as a autorun command ...
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> phantom: fyi, there is no BEST
[09:13] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, I replace the scalable folder, the 72x72 folder and the index.theme
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> juniecho: don't use sudo su
[09:13] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, but now a lot of icons arn't there
[09:14] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, because there in the old scalable folder, how can I merge them together?
[09:14] <juniecho> so i need to 'rmmod forcedeth', 'modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0', '/etc/init.d/networking restart' with admin right, can i just put those three in rc.local and just good to go?
[09:14] <hateball> juniecho: stuff in rc.local gets run as root yes
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: not sure man, not something ive done
[09:14] <juniecho> hateball thanks a lot :) hehehe
[09:14] <balachmar> How do I get a projector working on my laptop in ubuntu 8.10 (intel driver)
[09:14] <surjeet> how to install vlc player
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> juniecho: sudo rmmod forcedeth sudo ....
[09:14] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, well do you know what could be going on here? The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: i'd find a way to wipe all settings from nm and then try reconfigure it
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: its not something i use as I simply edit the interfaces file and it goes
[09:16] <surjeet> hi how to install lamp
[09:16] <kuldip> How to upgrade / update multiple drupal website at a time ?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: I told you
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: i even gave you the command
[09:17] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, I found a solution but I can't work out one thing
[09:17] <balachmar> ActionParship1: He asked another question the second time LAMP instead of VLC
[09:17] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, I have 2 folders, one with a lock on it, and one without, how can I move all the contents from the one with the lock to the one without a lock?
[09:18] <surjeet> i have use this cammand but my local host is not working properly
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: why does it have a lock?
[09:18] <erUSUL> !lamp | surjeet
[09:18] <genii> surjeet: sudo tasksel            then use up/down arrows to go to LAMP option, spacebar to select. Then tab to select <ok> at bottom. Then Enter key to begin
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: then read the factoid, maybe there is some additional config needed
[09:18] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, maybe because I took it from usr/share/icons/hicolor
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: try sudo cp the files over from the locked folder, you will need to chown them once copied
[09:19] <surjeet> which type of config
[09:19] <kuldip> How to upgrade / update multiple drupal website at a time ?
[09:20] <balachmar> kuldip: That is actually a drupal question not ubuntu
[09:20] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, sudo cp scalable scalable_ if I want files to go from scalable_ to scalable?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: I dont know i dont use it, but most folks seem to get by with the factoid for installation
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: that will overwrite the folder with the locked one
[09:21] <surjeet> how to install third party software
[09:21] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, so how am I going to merge them?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: just like any other app
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: i think its cp -r /source/* /dest
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> Milkeh: i'd check man cp
[09:22] <surjeet> such i want to insatll dreamwever
[09:22] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip1, I have no idea what that means
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: you need to buy dreamweaver then you may be able to run it through wine
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: dreamweaver is a windows application
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> !appdb | surjeet
[09:23] <surjeet> ok i want instrall tial version
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: then run: sudo apt-get install wine
[09:23] <jc2000> hi
[09:23] <jc2000> can you help my?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: then download the trial and launch the setup.exe (or whatever it is) with wine
[09:24] <kjell> !anyone | jc2000
[09:24] <jc2000> im working on building a IRC bot
[09:24] <jc2000> a projcat for school
[09:24] <jc2000> *projcet
[09:24] <surjeet> but i have install wine
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: wine is a best effort and there can be some instabilities but some apps run amazingly
[09:24] <jc2000> i need loges of 1 on 1 chet
[09:24] <kjell> jc2000: Please don't use enter as punctation and it will be easier to read.
[09:25] <jc2000> i don't care if its from icq or messnger
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: then open the setup file with wine and the system will install if it is able
[09:26] <surjeet> i have setup.exe but how install this or confg
[09:26] <jc2000> so will you give my logs
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: right click -> open with wine
[09:27] <ActionParsnip1> surjeet: or in terminal: wine /path/to/setup.exe
[09:27] <jc2000> i see i wont get help
[09:27] <kjell> Or just doubleclick the file. Works for me.
[09:27] <jc2000> so bye
[09:27] <surjeet> ok i m trying
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> no kidding
[09:30] <kjell> surjeet: I see there is howto's on how to install DreamWeaver on appdb.winehq.org, go there and browse for applications -> search for Dreamweaver and select your version.
[09:30] <niten> Hey, anybody know where I can get info on debugging ext3 when fsck has failed?
[09:33] <erUSUL> niten: probably the best place is to ask the developers... http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-fsdevel http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-ext4 directly
[09:33] <Milkeh> does anybody know how I get that information on the side of my desktop?
[09:33] <Milkeh> such as the clock, system info so on
[09:33] <Milkeh> I see it on a lot of screenshots
[09:34] <quibbler> !conky | Milkeh
[09:34] <erUSUL> Milkeh: there are a few apps that can do that,,, screenlets; conky; gtkrmll; gdesklets etc you have to choose one of them
[09:34] <surjeet> hi i m there on link
[09:35] <Milkeh> hold on let me try to find a screenshot
[09:35] <quibbler> Milkeh: have a look at conky
[09:36] <nyaa>  is ext4 going to only improve performance on ssd's or will it be for all drives?
[09:36] <quibbler> Milkeh: and look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205865
[09:36] <Milkeh> I want this one: http://sudosys.be/files/images/diehard4_03.preview.jpg
[09:37] <Milkeh> quibbler, do you know how to get the one I just shown you
[09:37] <kri113> thats conky
[09:37] <quibbler> Milkeh: and look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205865
[09:38] <erUSUL> Milkeh: that's conky afaics
[09:38] <erUSUL> !info conky | Milkeh
[09:38] <nyaa> !ext4
[09:39] <mak_> hiii all,,any one having any idea about netbios-ssn  (or) netbios-ds ?
[09:39] <Milkeh> quibbler, can't I just install through synaptic?
[09:40] <high0wl> hey i'm having a bit of a problem
[09:40] <high0wl> i have a sh*tty radeon 7000 agp card with composite tv-out
[09:41] <high0wl> if i have it hooked up to my tv on boot
[09:41] <c0l2e> is  there a mime/file type management for gnome? like the one with kde's File Types Settings ??
[09:41] <high0wl> the tv picture comes in perfect but my monitor goes out of sync
[09:41] <high0wl> if it's not hooked up my monitor is fine
[09:41] <quibbler> Milkeh: yes you can install conky in synaptic, but then you have to learn to use it. try the link I gave you in ubuntuforums to help you configure it.
[09:41] <ikonia> high0wl: control your language - if you can't say it without staring it out - don't say it
[09:42] <nyaa> out of sync like the monitor's putting things in the wrong places, or like the refresh rate is not right?
[09:42] <high0wl> my bad
[09:42] <high0wl> like the refresh rate is out.....looks somewhat crunched and garbled when its booting up
[09:43] <high0wl> once X loads its starts tweaking out tho
[09:43] <nyaa> what program do you use for dual screens?
[09:43] <high0wl> i don't
[09:43] <high0wl> i just want a clone
[09:43] <high0wl> which it does on its own
[09:43] <kjell> nyaa: nvidia-config
[09:43] <high0wl> works fine in windows
[09:43] <high0wl> well windows xp anyways
[09:43] <kjell> nyaa: Oh! Did you ask high0wl :D
[09:43] <quibbler> !enter | high0wl
[09:44] <nyaa> yes kjell
[09:44] <nyaa> high0wl have you tried manually changing the refresh rate for the monitor?
[09:44] <dmphotography> Where can I find the definition for commands such as APPE, DELE, MKD, RMD, RNTO, STOR, XMKD, XRMD DIRS?
[09:45] <ikonia> dmphotography: man pages
[09:45] <nyaa> dmphotography you can usually type man appe in a terminal to get the manual for appe
[09:45] <Milkeh> quibbler, find the section titled Section "Module", and add, I can't find Module anywhere
[09:45] <nyaa> or man dele, man mkd etc
[09:45] <dmphotography> Thank you.
[09:45] <n00b1> hi all
[09:45] <high0wl> can't change the refresh rate on the monitor itself - it doesnt even let me go into the monitors menu when its out-of-sync
[09:46] <n00b1> I'm trying to install my ATI video driver
[09:46] <high0wl> as far as messing with xorg.conf - i havent yet
[09:46] <n00b1> the manual says I have to sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-1-x86.x86_64.run
[09:46] <n00b1> but then I get a msg I'm not logged in as root
[09:46] <ikonia> n00b1: have you tried the drivers in the "system->administration->hardware drivers" gui
[09:46] <n00b1> no
[09:46] <high0wl>  i've screwed around in xorg.conf tho plenty of times in the past and never managed to figure this problem out
[09:46] <ikonia> n00b1: I strongly suggest you try them first
[09:46] <nyaa> high0wl if ati is anything like nvidia they should have a control panel in system > administration
[09:46] <n00b1> I did try the default driver if that's what you mean
[09:47] <ikonia> n00b1: no thats not what I mean
[09:47] <dmphotography> It keeps saying "No manual entry for ***.
[09:47] <n00b1> ok
[09:47] <ikonia> dmphotography: which command
[09:47] <nyaa> high0wl if they do you should be able to mess with it from there a lot more safely than messing with xorg.conf would be
[09:47] <dmphotography> Any of them.
[09:47] <high0wl> nyaa: nah nvidia is linux friendly.......ati - not so much
[09:47] <nyaa> high0wl no matter what, if I mess with that sort of stuff I save a backup copy of my old xorg.conf
[09:47] <oCean_> dmphotography: they're ftp commands right, not 'just' unix commands
[09:48] <dmphotography> correct.
[09:48] <dmphotography> I'm just trying to find the explination of them.
[09:48] <oCean_> dmphotography: quick search on google said: http://www.nsftools.com/tips/RawFTP.htm
[09:48] <high0wl> windows xp works fine with my TV hooked up - windows 7 beta doesn't and every flavor of linux i've tried including an LFS system always gives me out-of-sync
[09:48] <dmphotography> Ahh!  Thanks again!
[09:49] <n00b1> it found one: ati/amd proprietary FGLRX graphics driver --- is that the driver I downloaded to my desktop or another one?
[09:50] <ziroday> high0wl: tried changing the resolution/refresh rate?
[09:50] <ziroday> high0wl: also what TV is it?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !ati | n00b1
[09:51] <high0wl> lol yeah i changed my resolution to 1024x768 after i installed ubuntu but the funny thing i noticed is my refresh rate is 0 Hz according to system > preferences > screen resolution
[09:51] <rww> n00b1: No, that's the driver in the Ubuntu repositories. You should use that one.
[09:51] <sophia> #mplayer
[09:51] <high0wl> currently the tv i'm using is a 37" hdtv
[09:51] <n00b1> thx ubottu
[09:52] <ziroday> high0wl: what graphics card/drivers are you using?
[09:52] <n00b1> rww, I tried one driver, think it's that one, but it screwed up (black screen upon boot) that's why I downloaded the official ATI one
[09:52] <high0wl> graphics card: ATI Radeon 7000/VE      Driver - xorg-radeon
[09:52] <Milkeh> what the
[09:52] <sophia> #ffwrap
[09:52] <Milkeh> where did my conky go?
[09:53] <Milkeh> grr why does it keep disapearing?
[09:53] <ziroday> high0wl: right, and screen resolutions shows 0 Hz
[09:53] <ziroday> Milkeh: run it in the terminal and find out
[09:53] <cakey> 0hz
[09:53] <high0wl> lol yeah
[09:53] <cakey> damn
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Milkeh: if you run it from terminal, ten close terminal, it will die
[09:53] <rnk> fucking xchat keep disappearing
[09:53] <high0wl> its definately not 0hz lol but it says it is
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Milkeh: if you use show desktop, it will minimise too
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | rnk
[09:54] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip, oh, is there anyway to prevent that?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Milkeh: which one!?
[09:54] <rnk> sorry]
[09:54] <quibbler> Milkeh: use alt F2 and run conky from there
[09:54] <Milkeh> quibbler, ok thank you
[09:54] <ziroday> high0wl: right, well you're going to need to mess around xorg.conf to get a modeline that works
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Milkeh: the show desktop one i am unsure of, if you run it with alt+f2 it will be spawned by the desktop
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> rnk: run it from the terminal, when it crashes you will get some output which may help
[09:55] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip, Ok thanks, and I'm sorry but I have one more question, very basic :)
[09:55] <high0wl> nah i dont think it really has much to do with xorg.conf
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Milkeh: dont ask to ask, just ask
[09:55] <high0wl> my monitor goes out of sync before X is up
[09:55] <jimcooncat> Milkeh: I believe you could add it to System -> Preferences -> Sessions so it will start up when you log in. I don't know conky though.
[09:56] <ziroday> high0wl: thats because your monitor is passing along/lying in its EDID
[09:56] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip, Well in my password I use the number pad but num lock is always on
[09:56] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip, how can I make my computer boot with it off?
[09:57] <Akos_beginner> Hi! Can I mount bin file somehow without converting it to iso?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Milkeh: i think thats a BIOS option
[09:58] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure because it was always off on windows
[09:59] <jimcooncat> Milkeh: You'll need to try the BIOS option, and if that doesn't do it for you then install numlockx
[09:59] <sophia> anyone can help me pls???
[10:00] <nyaa> people won't know if they can help you or not until you ask a question, heh.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> !ask | sophia
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Milkeh: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-812182.html
[10:00] <O__o> how to setup my own email server in ubuntu?
[10:00] <Milkeh> ActionParsnip, thank you again :)
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> np bro
[10:01] <iz_> Hi everyone. I'm struggling to access ttyS0 in xubuntu, to no avail. It is active in BIOS, anyone know what might be the problem?
[10:02] <jimcooncat> O__o: The process of getting an email from one person to another over a network or the Internet involves many systems working together. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[10:02] <sophia> i am getting an error... (gtk/gtk.h :No such file), i installed all related packages
[10:02] <patmanpato> is it possible to not have the folder popup on screen when a usb drive is plugged in, under gnome?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> sophia: install apt-file and use it to search for the file
[10:03] <sophia> ActionParsnip: i am getting an error... (gtk/gtk.h :No such file), i installed all related packages
[10:03] <n00b1> I activated the fglrx driver again, have to reboot, hope I won't have a black screen this time...
[10:04] <oCean_> O__o: There are many, many ways. Wiki pages on Postfix are nice place to start. Maybe you are looking for something like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[10:05] <greyseal96> I am trying to install sadms-2.0.12 on Ubuntu 8.10 but the installation fails because the reported version of samba is 2:3.2.3-1ubuntu3.4.  Is there a way to get this to work?
[10:06] <sophia> ActionParsnip: i installed gtk related packages using  apt-file... i will paste Makefile and pls go through it once
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> sophia: the make file will mean nothing to me
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> sophia: if you dont have gtk.h it wont compile, you need apt-file to tell you which package you need to install to get the file
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> sophia: thats why i told you to install apt-file
[10:07] <sophia> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:07] <maco> hang on
[10:07] <maco> i can tell you
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> apt-file search gtk.h
[10:07] <maco> because i have a ton of gtk -dev packages, so im sure my dpkg knows by now
[10:07] <maco> libgtk2.0-dev
[10:08] <maco> sophia: ^
[10:09] <sophia> maco: ok let me check once
[10:09] <iz_> I'll try this once again, in case my question got lost the first time ;) : I'm struggling to access ttyS0 in xubuntu, to no avail. It is active in BIOS, anyone know what might be the problem?
[10:10] <O__o> oCean_, thx
[10:10] <quibbler> Milkeh: use alt F2 and run conky from there
[10:10] <nyaa> what is ttys0?
[10:10] <oCean_> iz_: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[10:11] <O__o> oCean_, aptitude and apt-get are same thing right?
[10:11] <iz_> nyaa: The serial port (com port)
[10:11] <marinha> hola
[10:11] <oCean_> O__o: syntax is slightly different, but they do the same yes
[10:12] <O__o> oCean_, how to get domain name?
[10:12] <sophia> maco: libgtk2.0-dev is allready installed :-(
[10:15] <twocarlo_> O__o:try whois.net
[10:15] <oCean_> O__o: configure /etc/hosts
[10:15] <O__o> so i can make myself any domain name?
[10:16] <O__o> free or do i need to pay?
[10:16] <ikonia> O__o: what do you want to do exactly
[10:16] <maco> sophia: er...thats odd
[10:16] <oCean_> O__o:  If you want to connect throuhg internet, you have to choose and register a domain
[10:16] <maco> unless it changed between your version and jaunty
[10:16] <O__o> ok
[10:17] <O__o> if i dont register, then i simply use the ip address?
[10:17] <O__o> like user@xx.xx.xx.xx for email?
[10:17] <maco> think so, yeah
[10:17] <maco> O__o: could be hard though if you dont have a static IP
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> sophia: try: apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev
[10:18] <maco> static IP probably costs more than registering a domain name does though
[10:18] <O__o> ok, i do have static ip
[10:18] <oCean_> O__o: but nobody would know your ip address, right.
[10:18] <O__o> my friends know
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> O__o: i'd get a no-ip account which will resolve your routers wan ip to a name
[10:18] <O__o> i want to set an email server so that my friends know and i wont get spam mail that way i guess?
[10:18] <ForeverSmurf> How easy is it to upgrade between ubuntu versions?
[10:19] <oCean_> O__o: there is hardly any cost to register a domain.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> ForeverSmurf: don't ask in both channels, most of us are in both rooms
[10:19] <O__o> whats no-ip acc?
[10:19] <sophia> ActionParsnip: i am installing apt-file now...
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> O__o: www.no-ip.com
[10:19] <O__o> how much to register a domain?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> O__o: free
[10:19] <O__o> free?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> O__o: forever
[10:20] <O__o> really?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> O__o: it just makes your wan ip resolve to a name
[10:20] <O__o> i will check that out
[10:21] <bryant> Action, are you talking about DNS servers?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> O__o: if your ip changes, install the DUC client to keep the IP in the records up to date. The account isnt active immediately as it takes a while to propogate through
[10:21] <O__o> my ip wont change
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> bryant: it will resolve his ip to a name so kinda yeah
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> O__o: ok then thats fine, I run it just in case
[10:21] <dmphotography> How do I go about formatting a partition on a harddrive from NTFS to one Linux likes.
[10:22] <dmphotography> ext3?
[10:22] <ForeverSmurf> what architecture is ubuntu compiled/optimized against?
[10:22] <outboard> use the partion editor
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ForeverSmurf: all
[10:22] <dmphotography> outboard: Where's that?
[10:22] <O__o> if i do change my ip, i just need to goto no-ip.com and change the setting there, right? ActionParsnip
[10:22] <outboard> but linux sees and is able to use ntfs
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> O__o: yeah pretty much, the DUC can manage it for you though which is easier
[10:23] <outboard> system >administration
[10:23] <dmphotography> outboard: Yes, but I cannot set permissions or ownership on it for some reason.
[10:23] <bryant> dmphotography, if you want to create a ext3 partition, man mkfs.ext3
[10:23] <O__o> DUC is a package?
[10:23] <dmphotography> Which format should I use for Linux?
[10:23] <bryant> ext3
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: i'd recommend: sudo apt-get install gparted; gksudo gparted
[10:23] <outboard> ext3 i think
[10:23] <francesco_> CIAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: if its usb, ext2, for internal drives ext3 is advised
[10:24] <dmphotography> Thank you all.
[10:24] <outboard> np
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: if the usb is going to be used in windows machines, use ntfs
[10:24] <jussi01> !it | francesco_
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: formatti will destroy the data on the drive so backup anything you want to put on once its made ext3
[10:25] <dmphotography> Out of curiosity, how come I'm unable to set ownership and permissions on my ntfs drive?
[10:25] <dmphotography> Correct.
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: its ntfs which is proprietary, linux file permissions etc cant be set
[10:26] <nagyv> could someone tell me how the bash command export works? I have two scripts, the first should set many environment variables with export, then the second would like to use them. The first gives no error, but the second still doesn't have the variables set. Any ideas?
[10:26] <genii> dmphotography: Because it doesn't use the same kind of permissions system that *nix filesystems use
[10:26] <twocarlo_> ntfs sucks
[10:26] <dmphotography> LOL.
[10:26] <twocarlo_> on linux
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: ntfs3g is a best effort as MS wont divulge how it works
[10:26] <Hew> twocarlo_: Have you used ntfs-3g?
[10:26] <dmphotography> So is there a happy in-between for windows/linux compatibility?
[10:26] <outboard> linux permissions seem to be more secure
[10:26] <nyaa> ntfs's inner workings were figured out long ago
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> twocarlo_: ntfs or fat32, ntfs is more robust
[10:27] <nyaa> you give microsoft money, and then it works a bit.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: see above
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> twocarlo_: wrong target, sorry
[10:27] <genii> dmphotography: ext2/3 and fs-driver for ext3 for the Win box
[10:27] <prince_jammys> nagyv: does the first script run the second script?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: what genii said
[10:27] <twocarlo_> Hew:havent tried it yet
[10:27] <nagyv> prince_jammys: no, should it? can't these variables set globally by export?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: but the systems you use must have the driver istalled to read it
[10:28] <dmphotography> Ok.
[10:28] <surjeet> how to give the read write permision
[10:28] <Hew> twocarlo_: Then how could you possibly know it sucks? Not a helpful comment to post in the support channel.
[10:28] <dmphotography> Because I want to make backups of my files and be able to read them on my windows machine.
[10:28] <prince_jammys> nagyv: changing the environment can only affect children of that process
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: which freaks out retarded admins who wont help you out because the software is from some site theyve never seen
[10:28] <nagyv> prince_jammys: thx, I'll try that way then
[10:29] <dmphotography> Haha.
[10:29] <prince_jammys> nagyv: at that point, it might as well be all one script
[10:29] <nagyv> prince_jammys: yes, I realised it as well :)
[10:29] <Hew> Anyone know a command that can search for a string in a directory of files?
[10:30] <ikonia> Hew: grep
[10:30] <prince_jammys> nagyv: though you can still export within the script, if the script runs programs that expect certain env variables to be set
[10:30] <nagyv> prince_jammys: and is it possible to call the "settings" script from the other scripts (plural now!) to set the environment variable for the main script?
[10:30] <nagyv> prince_jammys: exactly, that's what I would like
[10:31] <surjeet> how to give the read write permision any folder
[10:31] <nagyv> prince_jammys: isn't that what the export command is for?
[10:31] <Hew> ikonia: Thanks, I didn't even think of using grep directly :P
[10:31] <dmphotography> surjeet: chmod
[10:31] <dmphotography> 777
[10:31] <oCean_> nagyv: use "source <filename_with_variable_definitions>" in any script to read the values exported in that script
[10:31] <ikonia> Hew: easy to miss the obvious sometimes
[10:32] <dmphotography> surjeet: example would be:  chmod username:usergroup 777 filename
[10:32] <nagyv> oCean_: cool, and can't I set global variables? like $HOME is?
[10:32] <prince_jammys> nagyv: say i want any program that uses the EDITOR variable to use 'vim'. i can export EDITOR=vim in my .bashrc, and any children of my bash shell will inherit that variable. so when i run crontab, for example (which uses EDITOR), it opens my crontab with vim
[10:32] <dmphotography> I personally use chown more though so that way I don't have to change the permissions.
[10:33] <surjeet>  such  as i want to create a folder inthis folder /home/user/
[10:33] <OriWB> Can someone help me with a shaky interent connection? (network stays connected, but I no longer have internet)
[10:33] <outboard> i had a second screen attached  and now have removed it. but now when i boot the prompt boxes for loging in are appearing to the side of the screen , nearly off the screen
[10:34] <dmphotography> surjeet: try this:  chown surjeet:surjeet /home/user
[10:34] <prince_jammys> nagyv: so by 'global', you probably mean variables that are set in your .bashrc or .xsessionrc
[10:34] <nagyv> prince_jammys: but then what is the "export" command for? Can't I set ".bashrc level" variables later?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> dmphotography: you may want to use chown -R ;)
[10:34] <O__o> ActionParsnip, so do i add domain or add host?
[10:34] <prince_jammys> nagyv: if I didn't export EDITOR, crontab in the above example would not receive the value 'vim'
[10:34] <twocarlo_> it sucked because, before i dual boot winxp with ubuntu and as i try to access my files using ubuntu on ntfs partition i couldnt used my files anymore as i try to accessed it on windows:thats the moral lesson of it
[10:35] <dmphotography> ActionParsnip: yeah, if you want to have full permissions to all the subfolders in /user
[10:35] <O__o> ActionParsnip, i just registered no-ip.com, what do i do next?
[10:35] <dmphotography> Is there any sort of security risks by changing ownsership from root?
[10:35] <nagyv> prince_jammys: I think I understand it now, more or less :)
[10:35] <surjeet>  such  as i want to create a folder inthis folder /home/user/
[10:35] <prince_jammys> nagyv: export makes it so that child processes of a certain process can inherit the value of a variable
[10:35] <nagyv> prince_jammys: thanks
[10:35] <oCean_> nagyv: you, as a user, cannot define a variable value for all other users (e.g. 'global') to use. Your own could be specified in .bashrc indeed. Exporting is just a way to let 'children' 'inherit' the values set in the parent shell
[10:35] <BigPerM> Hey all, just curious what native programs i can use to convert Xvid to DVD ?
[10:35] <prince_jammys> nagyv: cool.
[10:35] <jimcooncat> what wifi router distribution most matches the ubuntu/debian methodology? I'm looking for something like openwrt or tomato with apt-get
[10:36] <oCean_> nagyv: prince_jammys... twice the explanation :)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> O__o: i think its a domain
[10:36] <outboard> i had a second screen attached  and now have removed it. but now when i boot the prompt boxes for loging in are appearing to the side of the screen , nearly off the screen
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> O__o: sorry its host
[10:37] <outboard> how do i access the settings for the login page ?
[10:37] <outboard> to move the proimpt boxes back to the center
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> O__o: check PM
[10:37] <quibbler> BigPerM: have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311936&highlight=tovid
[10:38] <BigPerM> Thanx quibbler
[10:38] <alexis_> hi everybody
[10:38] <sophia> ActionParsnip: it shows (E: The cache directory is empty.)
[10:39] <dmphotography> Is there any sort of security risks by changing ownsership from root?
[10:40] <ravious> would anyone happen to have an 8.10 customized xorg.conf file that uses dual video cards, not a twinview setup?
[10:40] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: of what files?
[10:40] <dmphotography> Any?
[10:41] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: almost all files outside of your home directory are owned by root
[10:41] <Boohbah_> dmphotography: not any security risks, but changing the permissions of system files may cause them to be unusable
[10:41] <prince_jammys> well, and other user's homedirs of course
[10:41] <dmphotography> Gotcha.
[10:41] <sophia> ActionParsnip: apt-file search gtk.h gives   cache directory is empty
[10:44] <BigPerM> quibbler, Something newer has to have come out in the last 2 years?
[10:45] <sifo> helo.can u help how to use compiz in kde 4
[10:46] <prince_jammys> sifo: you might have better luck in #kubuntu, or even #compiz-fusion
[10:46] <dmphotography> Hey, to be sure I don't screw up my current NTFS partition, I've got a question . . .
[10:46] <quibbler> BigPerM: that possible just search in the forums
[10:47] <dmphotography> My drive shows sdb1 = ntfs = boot
[10:47] <dmphotography> sdb2 = extended
[10:47] <sifo> are compiz fushion working in kde 4?
[10:47] <sifo> are compiz fushion working in kde 4?
[10:47] <dmphotography> and sdb5 = ntfs
[10:48] <dmphotography> sdb5 shows as a sub-partition to sdb2 ?
[10:48] <folly> I had a 800x600 resolution.. then installed the nvidia driver and now i can't get anything more than 640x480! has anyone else had this prob?
[10:48] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: you have two ntfs partitions, correct?
[10:48] <dmphotography> Correct.
[10:48] <c_nick> folly are you a blonde :-)
[10:48] <dmphotography> And sdb1 is the one I want to format.
[10:48] <daleh> ok, since last night my ubuntu stopped booting, seemingly randomly
[10:48] <folly> ha no
[10:48] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: that's fine. the second one is inside an extended partition
[10:48] <c_nick> hehe
[10:49] <c_nick> take a closer look
[10:49] <dmphotography> Ok.  It won't screw up the MBR?
[10:49] <c_nick> cause u sound like one
[10:49] <dmphotography> I've done that before.
[10:49] <daleh> I put in a live cd, and it cant seem to mount my hard drive
[10:49] <Tyrath> cups is not handling printing correctly for y DeskJet 930C. On Mac OS its bad on Ubuntu its terrible. Help!
[10:49] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: i don't think so. sdb5 is a shared partition, right?
[10:49] <folly> ﻿c_nick: thanx.. you have been very helpful
[10:49] <Tyrath> basically anytime I print something is left off
[10:49] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: meaning a partition you have for sharing data between ubuntu and windows
[10:49] <daleh> mouse:wrong fs type, bad option, bar superblock on /dev/sda1/
[10:50] <daleh> *mount
[10:50] <sophia> ActionParsnip: i am getting an error... (gtk/gtk.h :No such file), i installed all related packages
[10:50] <sophia> Anyone can help? i am getting an error... (gtk/gtk.h :No such file), i installed all related packages
[10:50] <c_nick> folly: did u try uninstalling and reinstalling the driver
[10:50] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: well, it was a partition that was on my windows system prior to switching it over to Linux.
[10:50] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: are you on the live cd?
[10:51] <c_nick> folly:  sometimes it runs on the second try.. i know it sounds weird but wht the heck if it gets it working !
[10:51] <dmphotography> prince_jammys:No, this is an extra drive besides the primary drive.
[10:51] <c_nick> maybe some unreported bug in ubuntu
[10:51] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: what mount command gave that error?
[10:51] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: A physical second drive.
[10:51] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: Error?
[10:51] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: I had no error.
[10:52] <sophia> any idea?
[10:52] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: oh, sorry, i mixed you up with daleh
[10:52] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: heh. since he was talking about something similar.
[10:52] <folly> ya, I tried reinstalling
[10:52] <daleh> I got that error from right click / mount drive
[10:52] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: LOL.
[10:52] <sophia> macho: help meeeeeeeee
[10:52] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: anyway, what you described sounds ok
[10:53] <folly> and then I tried the various nvidia-glx-whatevas
[10:53] <folly> and nothing worked
[10:53] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: Ok, I need to make a backup anyways.  I'm slacking on that.
[10:53] <prince_jammys> dmphotography: never a bad idea
[10:53] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: Yeah.  What's the best way to back up selected folders/files for a web server?
[10:54] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: I have some folders containing serveral GB of movie files I don't need to make regular backups of.
[10:54] <dmphotography> prince_jammys: and something automated would be ideal.
[10:54] <sophia> anyone can help me pls???
[10:55] <dmphotography> sophia: What do you need help with?
[10:55] <sophia> i am getting an error... (gtk/gtk.h :No such file), i installed all related packages
[10:55] <enrico_> hei. for a demonstration, i am trying to make an interpid installation to automatically login with the guest user. Having the guest user available at login instead (but without password) would be also ok. anybody has experience with that?
[10:55] <dmphotography> sophia: Where are you getting this error at?
[10:55] <Roq> dmphotography: regular backups with dump?
[10:55] <error404notfound> I have installed eclipse and everytime I start it, I have to give all the compiler, intrepeters and workspace path again...
[10:56] <Boohbah_> sophia: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[10:56] <dmphotography> Roq:  That would be nice, but I can backup the mySQL data directory and it's just as good.
[10:57] <sophia> Boohbah_:even that is installed already...:-(
[10:57] <Roq> dmphotography: chattr -d on the directory, gives the no dump flag
[10:57] <Roq> and lsattr to check the current settings
[10:58] <enrico_> anyone?
[10:58] <ravious> Hey guys, im having some problems getting my xorg.conf file setup right.. I've got dual video cards with a monitor on each one, would anyone happen to have a working config file i could look at thats setup similar?
[10:59] <dmphotography> Roq: And what are those for?
[10:59] <Roq> attributes of your file or directory, check 'man chattr' for the different options
[10:59] <twocarlo_> is there a way both windows and linux can both share files safely without destroying files when it was accesed by linux, i tried using using ext2 to share files on windows on ubuntu
[10:59] <dmphotography> I looked at that, but I'm not sure why I need that?
[11:01] <daleharvey> ok, [ 1321.633032] EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1 not in group (block 560824320)!
[11:01] <daleharvey> [ 1321.635583] EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted!
[11:01] <OriWB> >	Can someone help me with a shaky interent connection? (network stays connected, but I no longer have internet)
[11:02] <daleharvey> seems to be my problem
[11:02] <enrico_> i try to enable automatic login to guest users, into "login window prefernces", gut i get an error ( the "guest" user UID is loware then allowed MinimalUID )
[11:02] <enrico_> any workaround?
[11:02] <daleharvey> I dont really care about getting it up and running again, I woul just like to be able to backup some of the stuff from /home
[11:02] <sophia> dmphotography: After adding this line in Makefile( gcc `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` ff_wrap.c -o ff_wrap.o) i m getting some error like :   (/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:32:21: error: gdk/gdk.h: No such file or directory)
[11:05] <sophia> #xubuntu
[11:05] <dmphotography> sophia: I'm not sure about that, you will need to ask someone else on that one.
[11:05] <dmphotography> sophia: I'm fairly new to Linux myself.
[11:05] <sophia> dmphotography: No probs
[11:06] <sophia> dmphotography: Anyways thanx for replying
[11:06] <etfb> My Google-fu must be lacking, but I can't see how to install the right sound drivers for my Toshiba A300 under Hardy.  Any hints?
[11:07] <OriWB> Can someone help me with a shaky interent connection? (network stays connected, but I no longer have internet)
[11:07] <sophia> check your ip
[11:08] <Boohbah_> OriWB: can you ping the IP addresses of your nameservers or your default gateway?
[11:09] <etfb> !audio
[11:09] <OriWB> Boohbah_: i think so... how do i check?
[11:09] <xardias> hi! I need to access the /dev/input/event* events, but none of them is generating any data (nothing is displayed while cat'ing them). Instead all the devices are recognized as a mouse (and can be used as a mouse)
[11:09] <Boohbah_> OriWB: with the 'ping' command...
[11:09] <xardias> can anyone tell me how I can get the data to these devices?
[11:10] <OriWB> Boohbah_: i go tthis [-LRUbdfnqrvVaA] [-c count] [-i interval] [-w deadline]
[11:10] <OriWB>             [-p pattern] [-s packetsize] [-t ttl] [-I interface or address]
[11:10] <OriWB>             [-M mtu discovery hint] [-S sndbuf]
[11:10] <OriWB>             [ -T timestamp option ] [ -Q tos ] [hop1 ...] destination
[11:10] <ccesar_> 211960
[11:11] <Myrtti> !paste | OriWB
[11:11] <OriWB> !paste
[11:12] <chamuscas> good morning to everyone
[11:12] <OriWB> Boobah_: So i dont know what came up means
[11:12] <xardias> brb
[11:13] <philux-dijon> hello
[11:13] <philux-dijon> il y a quelqu'un ?
[11:13] <OriWB> Boobah_: someone else was helping me, but i had to leave in the middle. would it help if i showedyou where we stopped?
[11:13] <philux-dijon> :)
[11:13] <philux-dijon> oupssorry
[11:13] <philux-dijon> bad  channel
[11:14] <chamuscas> for changing i want to ask you a simple question. I trying to move a file to a folder using the console. I already checked man mv option but i wasn't able to understand. Can anyone explain me please how does mv option work?
[11:14] <wirefire> hi can anyone refer me to a guide on how to automount vfat/ntfs-3g usb pens when you insert them.  Basically I want it to automount but not necessarily just at bootup time
[11:15] <ikonia> wirefire: hal should automount them when you insert
[11:16] <DStrevinas> Hello, is it true that symbolic link can be viewed with ls -F and end with @?
[11:17] <wirefire> ikonia, hmmm it isn't it recognises it but doesnt automount it.  However i can manually mount it
[11:17] <chamuscas> DStrevinas, why don't you try for your self :) you'll be suprised i hope
[11:17] <ikonia> wirefire: odd
[11:18] <OriWB> Can someone help me turn my wireless internet connection to manual?
[11:18] <DStrevinas> I tried but I want to be sure I don't delete anything permanently!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:19] <chamuscas> yup so don't try
[11:19] <chamuscas> XD
[11:19] <DStrevinas> ok :)
[11:19] <chamuscas> or you will delete permanently
[11:19] <chamuscas> DStrevinas, but yes you can see the @ :p
[11:19] <chamuscas> but all the other files are deleted
[11:20] <DStrevinas> so I can use unlink to safely delete the link?
[11:20] <DStrevinas> without deleteing the original?
[11:20] <chamuscas> DStrevinas, that i'm not sure =/
[11:20] <OriWB> Can someone help me turn my wireless internet connection to manual?
[11:20] <Vaalth> hey, i just installed ubuntu and it didnt detect my windows installation so its not in grub. could someone help me figure out what to put in my grub config?
[11:21] <DStrevinas> chamuscas: thanx!
[11:21] <chamuscas> DStrevinas, if you ahve ubuntu most of the folder don't desappear
[11:21] <DStrevinas> ok
[11:22] <zoo> !register
[11:22] <chamuscas> DStrevinas, write "man ls" in the console and see what does the option -F do :)
[11:22] <zoo> man ls
[11:22] <chamuscas> !register
[11:22] <chamuscas> oops
[11:22] <daleharvey> I really really need to rescue some data from this drive, can anyone help?
[11:23] <zoo> #freenode
[11:23] <lesshaste> anyone here know how to use kexec?
[11:24] <lesshaste> does this look right?
[11:24] <lesshaste> sudo kexec -p /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic --initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-11-generic --append="root=UUID=7d9f52a6-3632-41cc-aa41-67534f3cdd23 ro"
[11:24] <zoo> anyone here help creat a free shell account
[11:25] <lesshaste> join #kernel
[11:27] <zoo> << /nickname> >>
[11:27] <zoo>  /nickname>
[11:28] <zoo> !register
[11:28] <OriWB> Hi everybody! I noticed that when i downloaded, my internet connection would often disconnect, can someone help me keep a stable connection while downloading?
[11:30] <vegombrei> what was that file that i need to delete from the mozilla folder when firefox begins to behave wierd and always opens in fullscreen ?
[11:31] <zoo> quit
[11:33] <vegombrei> what was that file that i need to delete from the mozilla folder when firefox begins to behave wierd and always opens in fullscreen ?
[11:34] <choohaTek> 503 Service Unavailable No server is available to handle this request.
[11:34] <slavikE90> App is dead
[11:34] <choohaTek> ubuntu-fr.org
[11:34] <grai> hi; will the LiveCD let me install packages (that disappear when I turn off the computer)?
[11:34] <ikonia> grai: sure
[11:34] <slavikE90> Grai ... Yes
[11:35] <adante> how do you
[11:35] <grai> ok, thanks :)
[11:35] <adante> copy text from a gnome terminal
[11:35] <adante> into an emacs window?
[11:35] <slavikE90> Adante middle mouse button
[11:36] <adante> slavikE90: when i do that emacs says "Mark set" at the bottom and does nothing
[11:36] <slavikE90> Hmm ... No clue then
[11:36]  * slavikE90 uses vim
[11:36] <daleharvey> M-x enable-cua :P
[11:36] <torgrim> hmm, is it just me or did the flashplugin break with the latest firefox update?
[11:36] <torgrim> youtube stopped working ;)
[11:37] <vegombrei> what was that file that i need to delete from the mozilla folder when firefox begins to behave wierd and always opens in fullscreen ?
[11:37] <daleharvey> now can anyone help me rescue some data from [ 2995.802780] EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1 not in group (block 560824320)!
[11:37] <daleharvey> [ 2995.805296] EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted!
[11:37] <CK-TECH> how to convert wmv file to 3gp using ffmpeg ?
[11:37] <slavikE90> Ck, manpage/
[11:38] <slavikE90> Ffmpeg will tell you what it can output if you ask it
[11:38] <CK-TECH> slavikE90, wat u mean manpage?
[11:39] <slavikE90> Man ffmpeg
[11:39] <CK-TECH> ok thx, i will try
[11:40] <OriWB> can someone help me keep a stable connection while downloading?
[11:40] <syockit> CK-TECH: sometimes the manpage can be difficult to grasp. there are many tutorials out there on the web, following them while reading the manpage is suggested
[11:41] <OriWB> ...to the internet that is
[11:41] <slavikE90> Ori, ask your isp
[11:41] <slavikE90> Or man wget and look at -c
[11:42] <OriWB> slavikE90: sorry, i didnt understand
[11:43] <OriWB> slavikE90: how do i ask my isp? and what will that do?
[11:45] <Dillizar> yo i just need to put all the stuff from the live cd in the a memory stick and the usb will be a  live cd?
[11:46] <syockit> OriWB: wget -c allows for download resuming if a download was interrupted
[11:46] <syockit> OriWB: and really, stable connection or not depends on your internet provider
[11:47] <adante> hi folks, is there an easy way to load an env to a file and then load it up in another shell?
[11:47] <OriWB> syockit: but when im downloading,my internet connection is lost, and i stopped downloading, and i'm still connected. I dont know what else to make of it
[11:47] <sophia> #xububtu
[11:47] <sophia> #xubuntu
[11:47] <jrib> adante: env > file   ...  source file?
[11:47] <_stijn_> hello
[11:48] <OriWB> syockit: its not the download stops, its that my internet connection is lost, even though the bars on the top right corner say its not
[11:48] <_stijn_> i hear crack when I play audio :s
[11:48] <syockit> OriWB: if you say internet connection is lost, how is it still connected? at that point, are you able to browse pages?
[11:48] <Dillizar> !usb-boot
[11:48] <adante> jrib: if your env vars have values like \ | ( etc these are not interpreted literally
[11:48] <OriWB> syockit: no
[11:48] <Dillizar> !usb
[11:49] <OriWB> syockit: im still connected to the network, but i cant use the internet
[11:49] <syockit> OriWB: is this wireless?
[11:49] <OriWB> syockit: yes
[11:49] <Dillizar> thanks ubottu :)
[11:49] <OriWB> syockit: Im on a laptop
[11:49] <syockit> OriWB: it happens to be that your router lost connection to the internet. You are still connected to the router, but not the internet
[11:49] <jrib> adante: try #bash or just surround everything in ''
[11:50] <syockit> OriWB: you need to do something about your router
[11:50] <OriWB> syockit: i thought about that, but all the other computers around dont lose internet
[11:50] <OriWB> syockit: just me
[11:51] <syockit> OriWB: hmm. I think the router's cutting you off from the internet for some reason
[11:51] <syockit> OriWB: dunno if it has anything to do with ubuntu
[11:51] <Shortguy109> anyone know why my sound ain't workin?
[11:51] <OriWB> syockit: but it happens on both this router, and the one at home
[11:51] <Shortguy109> lol
[11:51] <syockit> OriWB: I did have that problem on vista though
[11:52] <Shortguy109> The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[11:52] <Shortguy109> You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu.
[11:52] <OriWB> syockit: does it sound the same?
[11:52] <_stijn_> can someone help me with my sound :s
[11:52] <_stijn_> I hear cracks
[11:52] <Shortguy109> my sound just won't  work at all
[11:52] <syockit> OriWB: basically, I was still connected to the router, but I get no internet connection
[11:52] <adante> jrib: thanks!
[11:52] <OriWB> syockit: ok... so that sounds like my problem
[11:52] <syockit> OriWB: the difference is, other lads also got no internet after that
[11:53] <OriWB> syockit: hmm
[11:53] <syockit> OriWB: and it only happens when I have too many connections at one time (hint: bittorrent)
[11:53] <OriWB> syockit: aha! then that must be it!
[11:53] <Shortguy109> can anyone here help me with ma sound problem???
[11:53] <OriWB> syockit: that makes perfect sense... ok, so how do i stay on, and knock the other guys off?
[11:53] <syockit> OriWB: you on bittorrent? I think you're router has a built-in setting that disconnects you when you have too many connection
[11:54] <OriWB> syockit: lol do you know where to change that?
[11:54] <nyaa> shortguy109: in volume control do you have any options that are muted?
[11:54] <Shortguy109> it won't even let me in it
[11:54] <syockit> OriWB: hey, play fair! well, I'm not sure if that's possible. You can try the router settings
[11:54] <Shortguy109> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[11:54] <Shortguy109> it says that when i try
[11:54] <syockit> OriWB: check your router manual about how to config it
[11:54] <OriWB> syockit: ok, thanx alot
[11:55] <AwaDoV> hi there .. my partions doesn't open.. it say it can't be mounted .. how i can mount it ????
[11:55] <Shortguy109> anyone know why i have no volume??
[11:56] <kibar> is there anyway i can boast the sound up, macbook pro ubuntu 8.10.
[11:56] <linkinx64> freaking windows update
[11:56] <AwaDoV> can any one help in this ?
[11:56] <linkinx64> it reboot my pc
[11:56] <kibar> even vat full volumn is still so quite
[11:56] <linkinx64> ups wrong channel lol
[11:57] <Shortguy109> anyone know why i have no volume??
[11:58] <Shortguy109> every time i go into volume control it says
[11:58] <Shortguy109> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[11:58] <syockit> Shortguy109: do you even have a working audio device?
[11:58] <Shortguy109> aye it worked on the last linux thing lol ya know when ya press esc when you boot up and choose which number or whatever
[11:58] <AwaDoV> hey guys ... how i can mount my hard disk partitions??
[11:59] <vegombrei> what was that file that i need to delete from the mozilla folder when firefox begins to behave wierd and always opens in fullscreen ?
[12:00] <RAMDAC> Hello Guys,
[12:00] <vegombrei> i need help with firefox .. it always opens in fullscreen mode .. how do i stop it from doin that
[12:00] <syockit>  hey guys ... how i can mount my hard disk partitions??
[12:01] <syockit> aww sheet happens again
[12:01] <Shortguy109> anyone know why i have no volume??
[12:01] <Daemonic> huh huh...you said mount
[12:01] <cjae> ok if anyone is has been following my troubles with google earth one here the last few days, I ve managed to get it back installed, but I need help with creating a symbolic link for /usr/lib/libcrypto.so libcrypto.so.0.9.8
[12:01] <oCean_> Shortguy109: did you (just) fresh install? Are alsa packages installed and gstreamer-alsa etc?
[12:01] <syockit> Daemonic: the cursor automatically copypastes anything it drags
[12:01] <Shortguy109> i'll check
[12:01] <Daemonic> syockit: no way
[12:02] <vegombrei> i need help with firefox .. it always opens in fullscreen mode .. how do i stop it from doin that
[12:02] <Daemonic> vegombrei: delete it.
[12:02] <syockit> cjae: did the guide tell you how to link?
[12:02] <RAMDAC> When i use the Network Manager there is no internet connection so i compelled to edit /etc/network/interfaces to have my connection back
[12:02] <vvk-> how can I delete a keyboard shortcut in gnome terminal?
[12:02] <cjae>  ln -s /usr/lib/libcrypto.so libcrypto.so.0.9.8 but I did this in the last install, so I believe I need to link it somewhere else see this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/googleearth-package/+bug/327011
[12:03] <vegombrei> Daemonic: sudo apt-get remove firefox ?
[12:03] <syockit> cjae: that command doesn't seem correct. usually it's the other way around
[12:03] <venkat_partha> How do I remove entries from Grub boot loader. I have about 6+ entries?
[12:03] <Daemonic> vegombrei: when it opens, resize it.
[12:03] <cjae> because GE is crashing exactly as it did the first time I installed it, and that command made it work
[12:04] <syockit> cjae: okay, I finally understood the problem
[12:04] <Shortguy109> oCean: i downloaded them alsa things now
[12:04] <vegombrei> Daemonic: i actually had this problem a while ago someone here helped me with it asked me to delete a certain file in the mozilla folder .. thing is i forgot what file
[12:04] <RAMDAC> vegombrei:What about the stored passwords and cache files?
[12:04] <syockit> cjae: PM?
[12:04] <cjae> sure
[12:04] <oCean_> Shortguy109: downloaded?
[12:04] <Shortguy109> i assumed u meant from synaptic? Lol soz im crap at this :P ma bro normally does all this
[12:04] <Shortguy109> pfft
[12:04] <Shortguy109> lol
[12:04] <vegombrei> Daemonic: what happens it it automatically resets all setting to default
[12:05] <vegombrei> Daemonic: would you know what file that would be ?
[12:05] <venkat_partha> Hello, could any one help me in deleting entries in GRUB boot loader.
[12:05] <Daemonic> nope. I run windows 3.1. I've never used linux before in my entire life.
[12:05] <oCean_> Shortguy109: well, yes, installing through synaptic is ok, but that should all be installed by default. So what version are you on, what install did you do?
[12:06] <Shortguy109> meh the volume still won't work
[12:06] <Shortguy109> umm
[12:06] <venkat_partha> I have more than 6 entries and I want only to keep the latest 2 updates
[12:06] <Shortguy109> i'll check
[12:06] <RAMDAC> venkat_partha: just open synaptic manager and remove the older kernels except the one you are operating
[12:06] <oCean_> sound! | Shortguy109
[12:06] <oCean_> !sound | Shortguy109
[12:07] <venkat_partha> Thanks RAMDAC.
[12:07] <Daemonic> !get a clue
[12:07] <venkat_partha> Let me try.
[12:07] <lesshaste> how do change ubuntu so that it logs me in automatically at boot?
[12:07] <RAMDAC> venkat_partha:You're welcome
[12:07] <Shortguy109> I use Ubuntu 8.04 i think O_o idk lol i got it from about ubuntu
[12:07] <mrjohnsen> hi. what is the name of the irsii style msn client again?
[12:08] <Guest46958> hi all here
[12:08] <Guest46958> here is my 1st learning site
[12:08] <kibar> hey guys how can i find the right driver for my sound card. the ubuntu driver makes it sound so quite
[12:08] <oCean_> Shortguy109: in short, there is no 'one quick fix' for sound. See troubleshooting link I send and see forums for your specific configuration.
[12:08] <Guest46958> wanna alot of you to participate
[12:08] <venkat_partha> I have an update in progress. That is what prompted me to think about remove older kernel versions. However, I would like to know where these entries are stored for Grub to pick them up.
[12:09] <Guest46958> appreciatehttp://engmohammed.homelinux.com/learning/
[12:09] <RAMDAC> lesshaste:System -> Adminstration -> Login Window ->security
[12:09] <Guest46958> http://engmohammed.homelinux.com/learning/
[12:09] <mib_0qa10atx> too slow :p
[12:09] <Guest46958> u mean da site
[12:09] <Guest46958> ?
[12:09] <lesshaste> RAMDAC, ah.. I am using xfce
[12:10] <lesshaste> RAMDAC, I'll try to find an equivalent
[12:10] <jrib> Guest46958: Hi, please don't advertise your site here
[12:10] <Guest46958> ook
[12:10] <Guest46958> soo sorry
[12:10] <mrjohnsen> hi. what is the name of the irsii style msn client again?
[12:10] <RAMDAC> lesshaste: ok sry cuz i never used the xfce GUI
[12:10] <Guest46958> is this forbedden
[12:10] <Guest46958> ?
[12:10] <vvk-> does anyone know how can I delete/disable a keyboard shortcut in gnome terminal settings?
[12:10] <Shortguy109> thanks Ocean brb i gotta reboot now
[12:10] <Shortguy109> oCean*
[12:11] <jrib> vvk-: edit -> keyboard shortcuts
[12:11] <jrib> Guest46958: yes
[12:11] <chemaja> #list
[12:11] <Guest46958> any one know how can i add a module foe tvtime to tune the channels of my country ???
[12:11] <vvk-> jrib, but what key do I have to press to Disable a shortcut?
[12:11] <Guest46958> for*
[12:11] <jrib> vvk-: backspace iirc
[12:12] <mib_0qa10atx> vvk-: system -> prefs -> keyboard          for more fundamental stuff, you can mess in metacity's settings
[12:12] <Guest46958> i'm using ubuntu
[12:12] <vvk-> jrib, thanks. backspace it was.
[12:12] <Guest46958> my tvtuner is live veiw
[12:12] <RAMDAC> venkat_partha: type uname -r in the terminal and then remove all  kernel versions except the output
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> !opera
[12:13] <ce_bengaldd_> cwe_chn_cuantik
[12:13] <jumbers> I'm having a problem with running a Left 4 Dead dedicated game server. This problem is detailed in this forum thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3076843
[12:13] <mrjohnsen> hi. what is the name of the irsii style msn client again?
[12:13] <syockit> it is recommended to get one from deb.opera.com for latest opera packages
[12:14] <RAMDAC> mrjohnsen: is it kopete?
[12:14] <Shortguy109> back lol
[12:14] <Shortguy109> thanks for the links btw oCean
[12:14] <Shortguy109> tryin 'em atm
[12:14] <Guest46958> helloo any one can help about using tvtime for egyptian tv ???????????????????
[12:15] <mick02> Folks, I've added some aliases into my .bash_aliases file but anytime I try to use them they don't work. Can anyone shed some light please?
[12:16] <Pasteurized> hi all
[12:16] <zardoz> hey iam pretty new to this. but i installed ubuntu latest desktop and then after i installed my gfx, and now i want to get the 3d desktop to work. but i cant seem to do it. i have compiz and i have enabled 3d desktop but still aint working.
[12:16] <scunizi> zardoz: you mean you want the cube?
[12:16] <zardoz> Yes
[12:16] <Pasteurized> zardoz: do you have enable 4 vitual desktops ?
[12:17] <scunizi> !ccsm | zardoz
[12:18] <zardoz> that package is installed aswell
[12:18] <ewan_> #linux-forum.de
[12:18] <ewan_> sry
[12:18] <Shortguy109> how do ya know the name of your sound cards driver
[12:18] <Guest4436> Hi.  Would anyone be able to recommend a good DSL Router?  Mine conked off, and I'm looking for a replacement that plays well with Ubuntu.
[12:18] <Guest4436> Priced around $20-$40.
[12:18] <darthanubis> any router
[12:19] <giemini> Hi. Anyone has 8.10 with ATI graphics? Should I keep the drivers that Ubuntu installed or install new from ATi website?
[12:19] <Shortguy109> how do ya know the name of your sound cards driver
[12:19] <mick02> !bash aliases
[12:19] <Pasteurized> Shortguy109: lspci command in a term should help
[12:19] <mick02> !aliases
[12:19] <ce_bengaldd_> ce_CHN QYUT
[12:19] <zardoz> giemini, i have ati drivers and installed those from atis website. works fine
[12:19] <darthanubis> Shortguy109, you google the card?
[12:19] <jrib> zardoz: you need to enable the cube using ccsm
[12:20] <zardoz> jrib, Yes i have done that aswell.
[12:20] <Shortguy109> hold on tryin that lspci thing
[12:20] <Guest4436> I specifically want a DSL Router (that is, a modem-router combination, not just a router)
[12:20] <Shortguy109> that came up a gianttt load of spam lol
[12:20] <jrib> zardoz: did you select "custom" for visual effects in the Appearances program?
[12:20] <yossarian> i'm using x64 intrepid and i have the latest adobe flash alpha installed. my problem is that it runs really slow. in fullscreen, it's unusable.
[12:20] <Shortguy109> well stuff anyway
[12:20] <scunizi> zardoz: then when you go to System>Preferences>Advanced Desktop Effects Settings, in the desktop section put a tic on Desktop Cube and Rotate Cube, then under the general tab go to Desktop size and put in 4 1 1 for the desktops
[12:21] <zardoz> i dont have that path
[12:21] <Guest4436> Any recommendations at all?
[12:21] <ravious> could someone help me out with the new changed in the xorg.conf file? It used to be xorg read its settings from the xorg.conf file.. not its just an empty file.. and every time i try to mc anually edit the file.. its pulling settings from some other place other than what i put in the xorg.conf and wont work.. Is there any way to turn that (pardon the expression) shit off and have it go back to reading config information from the static xorg
[12:21] <scunizi> zardoz: then you didn't install ccsm..
[12:22] <scunizi> !ccsm
[12:22] <jrib> !who | zardoz
[12:22] <alap> hi, i am trying to install driver using modprobe but unable to do so getting error as FATAL: Error inserting serial_lcd (/lib/modules/2.6.24-23-386/extra/serial_lcd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) so can anyone help me to get out of here.
[12:22] <jrib> zardoz: who were you replying to?
[12:23] <scunizi> jrib.. he was repling to me
[12:23] <jrib> scunizi: how can you be sure?  I asked him a question too...
[12:23] <RAMDAC> for those who where asking for firefox full screen problem
[12:24] <zardoz> scunizi, ihave ccsm ! but i get this compiz config setting manager not a advance desktop effects settings.
[12:24] <the_solipsist> exit
[12:24] <Shortguy109> well i found out what my sound card was Intel 82801H
[12:24] <Shortguy109> but what's the sound card driver? :S lol
[12:25] <scunizi> zardoz: compiz config setting manager should set a menu item named Advanced desktop effects settings.. are you saying that the menu item on your machine is compiz config settings manager in System>Preferences??
[12:25] <zardoz> scunizi, Yes
[12:26] <scunizi> zardoz: ok.. different but go there and do as I mentioned
[12:26] <ravious> anyone with any information on the new xorg and its xorg.conf file?
[12:26] <jrib> !x | ravious
[12:27] <jrib> ravious: erm, you probably want to start at: wiki.ubuntu.com/X
[12:27] <scunizi> jrib: you up late tonight or up early? :) 4am here
[12:27] <jrib> scunizi: 7:30am here :)
[12:28] <scunizi> east coaster
[12:28] <Shortguy109> how do i know what my sound card driver is
[12:28] <DIFH-ice1oot> 1337 here (in 10 minutes) :)
[12:29] <scunizi> Shortguy109: if it works don't worry. if it doesn't then "there are ways of making it talk"
[12:29] <Boohbah_> Shortguy109: find out what your chipset is with 'lspci -v' and then google
[12:29] <ravious> *sighs* all that is information on how to configure resolutions... I need to add additional devices, additional displays... and im not finding any information as to why an xorg.conf file still exists when it it pulls its own settings from some unknown (to me) location..
[12:29] <jrib> ravious: did you read the parent site I linked you to?
[12:29] <mib> hi
[12:30] <mib> anyoneknows what program i should use for messegner in ubuntu
[12:30] <mib> Pidgin seems not supporting file send and call chat features
[12:30] <kjell> mib: MSN Messenger?
[12:30] <Daemonic> psigin
[12:30] <mib> please advise
[12:30] <Daemonic> pidgin
[12:30] <Myrtti> mib: call chat?
[12:30] <Ascavasaion> Can anyone here tell me how to connect to my mobile phone to notebook using Infrared so I cna use it as a modem?
[12:30] <Shortguy109> a whole load of stuff came up when i put in lspci -v lol
[12:30] <scunizi> ravious: randr and xrandr are the setup and controlling packages for video display
[12:31] <gianni> mib: what about skype amsn
[12:31] <scunizi> mib: aMSN
[12:31] <kjell> mib: In generall file-sharing through the MSN-protocol on Linux is bad.
[12:31] <ravious> is there anyway to say ta hell with randr and have have xorg go back to reading a static xorg.conf?
[12:31] <scunizi> ravious: sort of .. what kind of card to you have?
[12:31] <mib> usually what is the best messenger to use apart from pidgin
[12:31] <JuJuBee> Would kjournald running make my computer very slow?  HD light is pinned on.
[12:32] <ravious> two.. onboard via, pci nvidia..
[12:32] <jrib> ravious: adding additional displays has not changed by the way.  That's still done in xorg.conf.  The input devices have been handed off to HAL and you configure that with fdi files (if you want to turn this off, grep man xorg.conf for HAL)
[12:32] <jeeeez> hi, am shifting to ubuntu from windows, what partition format do you suggest i should use for having my music [mostly mp3] ?
[12:32] <scunizi> ravious: in sli mode?
[12:32] <ravious> i dont think so.. its an older g4 card
[12:33] <Shortguy109> ah im still confused on gettin the name of ma sound card driver
[12:33] <scunizi> ravious: if you've enabled one of the restriced nvidia drivers try installing nvidia-settings and that should help set resolution and enable dual monitor etc..
[12:33] <ezerhoden> Shortguy109: does the sound work using the liveCD?
[12:33] <Shortguy109> i think so
[12:34] <Soyo> I can use samba to create a working network and see all the computers in smbtree. They can see and access my shared files. But what command do I use to connect to other computers from the command line?
[12:34] <scunizi> ravious: after enabling the nvidia drivers it's a good idea to restart X
[12:34] <ravious> everything works out of the box on the nvidia card.. tho.. i've never been able to have it configure duel video cards by default... i've always had to manually edit my conf to get it working on both cards
[12:34] <ezerhoden> other than using google, you could boot the liveCD and lspci -v will spit out all the hardware and what driver it is using
[12:35] <ravious> but now when i edit the conf file with the settings that i've always used, i get errors and it starts in failsafe mode
[12:35] <scunizi> ravious: works out of the box.. doesn't mean that you're using the restricted drivers.. check System>Admin>Hardware drivers and see what's there to enable
[12:35] <jrib> ravious: pastebin
[12:35] <Shortguy109> thanks very much! i'll try it now c ya
[12:35] <error404notfound> when will eclipse 3.4 in ubuntu repositories?
[12:35] <ravious> yes.. i've got the nvidia drivers.. those all work before i try to add the second card into the mix..
[12:35] <ravious> its just nothing works after the edit ;)
[12:35] <drik-c> join #TSIGA
[12:36] <Soyo> I can use samba to create a working network and see all the computers in smbtree. They can see and access my shared files. But what command do I use to connect to other computers from the command line?
[12:36] <scunizi> ravious: pastebin your xorg for jrib.. I can't remember how that file should be setup
[12:36] <Ascavasaion> Can anyone here tell me how to connect to my mobile phone to notebook using Infrared?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Soyo: smbmount
[12:36] <jrib> ravious: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log from a failed start
[12:36] <ravious> http://pastebin.com/d50de0563
[12:37] <scunizi> ravious: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Soyo: mount the remote shares like a disk and you can frely browse them, you can even add fstab entrys to make them mount at boot
[12:37] <Ascavasaion> HOw do I activate the Infrared
[12:37] <Soyo> ActionParsnip - thanks
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: does lspci show it?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: it may come up as an IrDA device
[12:40] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: No.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: or may say infared
[12:40] <ravious> Xorg.conf Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d50de0563
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: try lsusb
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: it may be attatched to the usb bus
[12:42] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Nothing their either... Only thing remotely possible is the Wireless ethernet. :(
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: is it enabled in the bios?
[12:42] <jason_> Hi there
[12:42] <g0th> hi
[12:42] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: No idea...  I presumed it was... shall I reboot and check?
[12:43] <g0th> I bought a LaserJet 2055dn printer, what driver/ppd file do I have to take for this model?
[12:43] <g0th> P2055dn
[12:43] <jason_> Can someone please help me create a bootable install disk?
[12:43] <jrib> !printing | g0th
[12:43] <jason_> I downloaded the iso file
[12:43] <jrib> g0th: check there first
[12:43] <g0th> I did
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: i would as a starting point
[12:43] <g0th> I didn't find the model there
[12:43] <jrib> jason_: what OS are you on?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> jason_: get it checked
[12:43] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Okay, let me do that then... be back in a bit.
[12:44] <jason_> i uncompressed the iso file then lost it
[12:44] <jason_> so now i need to know what files i need to put on the cd to boot from it
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> jason_: you dont uncompress the iso
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> you keep the iso as is and burn the iso file
[12:44] <jrib> jason_: you don't uncompress the iso.  You just use your favorite burning program to burn the image to a disk (ie you do not copy the iso file as a file on the disk)
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> jason_: you should also get the file checked using MD5SUMS so you know what you have downloaded is correct
[12:45] <g0th> a different question: how do I open mac .dmg files on ubuntu?
[12:45] <Guest46958> hay all any one can help on tvtime application ??????????????????????????????????
[12:45] <jason_> ya i figured that now
[12:45] <jason_> but dont have the iso anymore
[12:45] <jason_> just the uncompressed files
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> g0th: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343808
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> g0th: once you have made the iso file disregard the rest (its just showing off)
[12:47] <jason_> so.. can anyone tell me what files i need on the cd to make it bootable?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> g0th: http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/01/23/ubuntu-quicktip-converting-max-dmg-images-into-iso-images/
[12:47] <g0th> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot that should do it
[12:48] <g0th> my hopes is to find a .ppd file on the macosx driver
[12:48]  * scunizi gives a tip to terminal junkies.. check repo's for surfraw  :)
[12:48] <JuJuBee> My HD light is going nuts.  Nothing more than .7% CPU in top.  df -h shows /var using 100%.  du-sh /* shows /var using 856M out of 2G.  What is up with that?
[12:48] <ccherrett> how do you check what version of ubuntu you have installed?
[12:48] <hyperbuddha> does anyone know of a good vpn tutorial
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> g0th: i'm searching too
[12:49] <fosco_> ccherrett: lsb_release -a
[12:49] <scunizi> JuJuBee: could be "trackerd" indexing
[12:49] <zardoz> hmm how can i make the top and bottom transparent insted of image.. (ccsm)
[12:49] <ccherrett> fosco_: thank you
[12:49] <JuJuBee> scunizi: trackerd not running.
[12:50] <JuJuBee> But what's up with the 100% full if only using 856M or 2G ?
[12:50] <JuJuBee> /var that is.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> g0th: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[12:50] <scunizi> JuJuBee: what are you using to look at processes?  system monitor?
[12:50] <JuJuBee> top
[12:51] <JuJuBee> and ps aux
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> g0th: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_p2055dn.html
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> g0th: seems supported
[12:51] <scunizi> JuJuBee: sorry I don't have an answer
[12:51] <scunizi> weird
[12:52] <JuJuBee> My laptop was on all night, why would it still be e indexing...
[12:53] <mikeshollen> how do i install a custom usplash screen again?
[12:53] <zaggynl> JuJuBee: lsof or glsof
[12:53] <zaggynl> will show currently open files
[12:53] <scunizi> JuJuBee: there was a bug in tracker that did that. on my laptop I had to disable it.
[12:53] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Okay, it was disabled in the BIOS.  I enabled it, but lspci and lsusb still show nothing that looks like it is an Infrared.
[12:54] <Reeman> hello
[12:54] <scunizi> JuJuBee: for some reason one of the updates in the last month fixed it.
[12:54] <ndlovu> I have .sis files randomly appearing on my desktop. any idea where they might be coming from?
[12:54] <scunizi> at least for me
[12:55] <Reeman> i am sorry for bad engilsh... i installed lxde and have one problem - clock in bottom panel is white on light background
[12:55] <ndlovu> is there a bluetooth log file somewhere?
[12:55] <innociv> how do i restart iptables without rebooting? I just saved rules and they aren't taking effect.  I wish i could just service iptables start/stop/restart
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: can you pastebin both outputs please, use a single link too ;)
[12:55] <Reeman> how can i change color of clock?
[12:56] <ndlovu> innociv, sudo /etc/init.d/iptables restart  ?
[12:56] <scunizi> innociv: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart or networking restart I think
[12:56] <JuJuBee> This is toooooo painful.  I need to restart or something...
[12:57] <scunizi> JuJuBee: turn indexing off then resart
[12:57] <innociv> no such file or directory for that, I could set up an init.d but it seems so inconvient tome..
[12:57] <scunizi> *restart
[12:57] <JuJuBee> scunizi: where do I turn it off?
[12:57] <Reeman> is there someone who can help me?
[12:57] <innociv> well networking restart did SOMETHING.  Looks like way more than restarting iptables
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> innociv: all ubuntu based systems have /etc/init.d
[12:58] <mikeshollen> can anyone tell me how to get the interface for installing usplash?
[12:58] <bryant> Has anyone else seen that the time will read 1234567890 on Friday the 13th for UNIX systems? (I know UNIX is not LINUX, but it will still do it on *NIX like distros)
[12:58] <scunizi> System>preferences>Search and Indexing.. turning it off there won't turn it off until reboot if you have the bug
[12:58] <innociv> action, yeah.. i use it for other things. didn't have one for iptables after apt-get'ing it.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> !usplash | mikeshollen
[12:58] <ccherrett> fosco_: how can I check what version a package is from the cli?
[12:59] <giemini_> zardos: these from ati website work better?
[12:59] <Wizzup> Quick question. I'm going to format some drivers, including one containing my GRUB. This will screw my MBR. If I install Ubuntu again straight after, will it detect my windows, still? (Windows won't be formatted)
[12:59] <Wizzup> drives*
[12:59] <fosco_> ccherrett: aptitude show package
[12:59] <scunizi> Wizzup: yes
[12:59] <Wizzup> Alright. Thanks.
[12:59] <bryant> Has anyone else seen that the time will read 1234567890 on Friday the 13th for UNIX systems? (I know UNIX is not LINUX, but it will still do it on *NIX like distros)
[12:59] <giemini_> zardos: i have ati x1600 and in 8.04 it was much faster than in 8.10
[13:00] <bryant> Wizzup, just download the super GRUB cd (google it). It will fix your MBRs
[13:00] <scunizi> bryant: yes.. something like date -r @1234567890
[13:00] <pion> lqjhlkjlaxkJX
[13:00] <mikeshollen> isn't there a gui though for usplash
[13:00] <mikeshollen> that's how i did it the first time
[13:00] <mikeshollen> i didn't use terminal
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> innociv: iptables -F  to stop and /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall  to start
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> innociv: yu will need sudo
[13:01] <Myrth> hi, how do i've installed ubuntu on sdb, how do i add it to boot.ini on sda?
[13:01] <innociv> is there a way to make it where i can just do service iptables restart? :\
[13:01] <bryant> scunizi, its perl -e 'print scalar localtime(1234567890),"\n";'
[13:02] <ccherrett> fosco_: I am trying to find what version of libc I have but cannot find the package with apptitude. do you know how?
[13:02] <[MauroSanjo][Bra> Hey guys, does anybody experienced sound problems in Ubuntu 8.04 when firefox open flash widgets with sound like youtube? When this happens I can't play anything anymore unless i close firefox...
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: you choose the partition/disk to install to in the installer, just make sure there is unpartitioned space on it and the installer will see it and offer to use it
[13:02] <scunizi> Myrth: on install you can tell it where to install it.  boot.ini is a windows file. ubuntu will replace the MBR with grub giving you a menu to choose either windows or ubuntu
[13:02] <Adrian`> unix time :)
[13:02] <Myrth> well, it didn't install grub on sdda
[13:02] <Myrth> *sda
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: doesnt matter where it is as long as it is accessible and knows where grub.conf is
[13:03] <scunizi> Adrian`: you like that ? :)
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !grub | Myrth
[13:03] <Myrth> it boots to grub when i choose in bios to start from 2nd HD, but then it's unable to start because sda<->sdb switched now
[13:03] <scunizi> Myrth: follow the above link and reinstall grub.. it just got put in the wrong place..
[13:03] <Adrian`> yes
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: then install grub to the other disk then you should be ok, btw, grub uses disk/partition numbers, not names
[13:04] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[13:04] <Umeaboy> Messages that I see in dmesg that developers for Ubuntu should have, how do I send that info to them?
[13:04] <Umeaboy> I'd like some smaller errors to be fixed.
[13:04] <digittroglodyte> can someone help me with Nvidia-Settings not detecting my LCD display ?
[13:05] <Ascavasaion_> ActionParsnip: Sure... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117234/
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Umeaboy: dmesg > ~/dmesgoutput.txt
[13:05] <ccherrett> fosco_: got it thanks
[13:05] <Myrth> so only grub and fiddle with boot record? no way just to update boot.ini?
[13:05] <digitaltroglodyt> I did an upgrade and X has got screwed
[13:05] <allquixotic> Can anyone speculate as to why my Ubuntu 8.10 server would say "Connection Refused" when I try to SSH into it from one _particular_ computer? It accepts SSH from two other computers (on different networks) but not the one I'm using now.
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion_: nice, what make / model is the lappy?
[13:06] <Umeaboy> ActionParship: Should I write that in Terminal?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Umeaboy: yes, it will output the dmesg output to a text file which you can email
[13:06] <Umeaboy> Parsnip
[13:07] <Umeaboy> Sorry.
[13:07] <Ascavasaion_> ActionParsnip: IBM Thinkpad T42
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Umeaboy: try tab completing ;)
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion_: try: sudo modprobe irda
[13:08] <Wizzup> bryant: Ok, thanks. I'm generally not really afraid of not being able to fix it, I was just curious if the Ubu install did it
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion_: http://aaltonen.us/2005/03/02/ubuntu-linux-on-the-ibm-thinkpad-t42/
[13:09] <Soyo> "smbmount: mounting for a praticulr DFS root not implmented yet." Says the same thing whether I try to share the root or a praticular share...
[13:09] <majeru> hello, are there any serious reason against building the default desktop x86 kernel with PAE support?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: pretty much sets up your entire laptop :D
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> majeru: alows more than 4Gb RAM
[13:10] <mikeshollen> aha i found the answer, you can DL startup manager from synaptic for usphash
[13:10] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: :)  Let me have a looksie.
[13:10] <majeru> ActionParsnip: yes, and what's wrong with that?
[13:10] <jrib> allquixotic: are you using fail2ban or denyhosts?  Checked /etc/hosts.deny?
[13:10] <Umeaboy> ActionParsnip: Where do I email it?
[13:10] <majeru> the current kernel allows only up to 3gigs
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Umeaboy: no idea
[13:11] <allquixotic> jrib: Not using either of those to my knowledge. They aren't installed.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> majeru: nothing at all, thats a good thing if you have a 32bit cpu but want more ram
[13:11] <jrib> allquixotic: if the computer is on the same network, are you using its local ip?
[13:12] <syntax\> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2BA7BC59D745C5EB <-- i get this if i try to update? any solutions
[13:12] <Umeaboy> Anbyone else have an idea?
[13:12] <Soyo> "smbmount: mounting for a praticulr DFS root not implmented yet." Says the same thing whether I try to share the root or a praticular share...
[13:12] <allquixotic> jrib: The 8.10 server is on the public Internet with a static IP (no NAT whatsoever). I'm connecting to it using its DNS resolution, which is consistent across the boxen I'm trying to connect to it with
[13:12] <allquixotic> jrib: I can SSH into other boxes from my laptop, just not this particular server
[13:13] <jrib> allquixotic: oh.  I though you meant that you could ssh to this particular server from machines other than your laptop.  Is this true?
[13:13] <allquixotic> jrib: Yes, I can SSH to this particular server from machines other than my laptop. Correct
[13:14] <toader> Hi, what is the tool that can convert PDF to HTML in Linux?
[13:14] <allquixotic> jrib: The outbound SSH port isn't blocked on my laptop because my laptop can SSH to other servers than this one, too. So it's an anomaly.
[13:14] <toader> sorry, i forget the name
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> !info pdf2html
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> toader: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-convert-pdf-files-to-html-files.html
[13:15] <xdanx77> Hello.I need to rebuild the gcc-4.3.2 package .If i do it the "debian way" i get the error : mv -f pxxx stamps/01-unpack-stamp .the ordner stamp doesn't exist in the top build tree.Does someone please give me a hint how to solve this ?
[13:15] <jrib> xdanx77: pastebin what you are doing
[13:15] <kdog> what is the best bluetooth applet?
[13:16] <kdog> best bluetooth applet for gnome?
[13:16] <kdog> blueman?
[13:16] <kdog> or bluez?
[13:16] <kdog> or what?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> !best
[13:16] <xdanx77> jrib :  dpkg-buildpackage -d
[13:16] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: set CFLAGS to default value: -g -O2
[13:16] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: set CPPFLAGS to default value:
[13:16] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: set LDFLAGS to default value: -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions
[13:16] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: set FFLAGS to default value: -g -O2
[13:16] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: set CXXFLAGS to default value: -g -O2
[13:16] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: source package gcc-4.3
[13:16] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: source version 4.3.2-1ubuntu11
[13:17] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com>
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> xdanx77: use pastebin
[13:17] <xdanx77> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i386
[13:17] <xdanx77>  debian/rules clean
[13:17] <kdog> !bluetooth
[13:17] <xdanx77> rm -rf stamps
[13:17] <xdanx77> rm -rf   p  d
[13:17] <xdanx77> /usr/bin/make -f debian/rules2 clean
[13:17] <xdanx77> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/gcc/gcc-4.3-4.3.2.orig/gcc-4.3.2'
[13:17] <xdanx77> dh_testdir
[13:17] <xdanx77> rm -f pxxx status
[13:17] <xdanx77> rm -f *-summary *-protocol testsuite-comparision summary-diff
[13:17] <xdanx77> if [ -f /usr/src/gcc/gcc-4.3-4.3.2.orig/gcc-4.3.2/src/gcc/p/config-lang.in.debian ]; then \
[13:17] <xdanx77> 	  mv -f /usr/src/gcc/gcc-4.3-4.3.2.orig/gcc-4.3.2/src/gcc/p/config-lang.in.debian /usr/src/gcc/gcc-4.3-4.3.2.orig/gcc-4.3.2/src/gcc/p/config-lang.in; \
[13:17] <xdanx77> 	else true; fi
[13:17] <xdanx77> rm -f /usr/src/gcc/gcc-4.3-4.3.2.orig/gcc-4.3.2/src/gcc/po/*.gmo
[13:17] <xdanx77> rm -f debian/lib{gcc,gcj,objc,stdc++}{-v3,[0-9]}*.{{pre,post}{inst,rm},shlibs}
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> !flood
[13:17] <xdanx77> fs=`echo debian/*-BV* debian/*GCJ* debian/*CXX* debian/*LC* debian/*MF* | sort -u`; \
[13:17] <xdanx77> 	for f in $fs; do \
[13:17] <xdanx77> 	  [ -f $f ] || continue; \
[13:17] <syntax\> anyone?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: can you re-ask, somebody flooded the room
[13:18] <ravious> Anyone with any exp in configuring xorg for duel graphic cards now that xrandr is used rather than the xorg.conf file?
[13:18] <syntax\> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2BA7BC59D745C5EB <-- i get this if i try to update? any solutions
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | ravious
[13:18] <ikonia> ravious: you can still use the xorg.conf file
[13:18] <ravious> *sighs*
[13:18] <ikonia> ravious: why ?
[13:19] <scunizi> will mutt only send outgoing mail on a basic system if I install sendmail?  currently it acts like it's sending mail but it never gets anywhere.
[13:19] <Pici> xdanx77: Please tell jrib your pastebin url again, you were muted.
[13:19] <Bi_bRo_pklg> rinik
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: gimme a sec
[13:19] <xdanx77> jrib : http://pastebin.com/d168c0365
[13:20] <syntax\> im lookin at it on ubuntuforums  :D tried googling when nobody answered hehe im trying the solution that blackgr suggested @ ActionParsnip
[13:21] <syntax\> ActionParsnip: i get that error when trying to update. im using intrepid btw
[13:22] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Okay, I checked that site out and it does not seem to say much about using the Infrared.  I did run a sudo irdadump and it scrolled some info but nothing that really helps me to know whether it is trying to connect to my mobile phone or not.
[13:22] <ravious> i dont have a duel head, i have two cards.. I've totally reconstructed my xorg.conf file.. from my original settings "Pre-xrandr" and they give me errors.. (EE) Screen ) deleted because of no matching config section, (EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in config file..   I've got an nvidia pci, and an onboard via card.. by default.. ubuntu detects, installs drivers and works fine with the nvidia card.. just everything breaks when 
[13:22] <syntax\> and do you also know a workaround on using a static ip? i was able to make it work, (static ip) but network applet says networking disabled. everytime i open FF its on offline mode.
[13:22] <the_solipsist> Can anyone recommend a good DSL Router?  (Basically a combination of an ADSL modem + Wi-Fi router).  One that I can install OpenWRT or Tomato on...
[13:23] <Pici> the_solipsist: Try asking in ##hardware or ##networking, as this is not Ubuntu support related
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: we just need to get the infared working first
[13:23] <Soyo> smbmount: Mounting a DFS root for a praticular server not implemented yet... It says this whenever I try to mount any share. Any ideas?
[13:23] <the_solipsist> @Pici Thanks!
[13:23] <Travis-42> I have a large (150gb) tar file from backing up my system.  Is there any fast way to view the contents of the file?  I tried opening it with archive manager, and it's been over 5 minutes already.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: you need the ppa.launchpad key, someone gave a command earlier to get it but i cant remember it
[13:24] <xdanx77> Travis-42 : tar -xt file
[13:24] <syntax\> ActionParsnip: aw ok. what about the network problem im encountering?
[13:25] <xdanx77> Travis-42 : for large tar files i would use schilli tar,not the gnu tar cause it's much faster and it's able to store acl's
[13:25] <Travis-42> ok thanks xdanx77
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: cd ~/;gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv d745c5eb; sudo gpg --export --armor d745c5eb | sudo apt-key add -
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6622081
[13:26] <Soyo> smbmount: Mounting a DFS root for a praticular server not implemented yet... It says this whenever I try to mount any share. Any ideas?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Soyo: http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1404
[13:27] <Soyo> thanks
[13:27] <syntax\> ActionParsnip: i used the script blackgr suggested on the forums it worked. now my problem is on networking
[13:27] <Sorcererbob> Can someone please recommend a way to manage an (openLDAP probably) LDAP server? gui would be nice. web based would be nicer.
[13:27] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: I know :\
[13:27] <syntax\> has anyone tried to use a static ip on intrepid?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: i use it
[13:28] <g0th> ActionParsnip: hmm, is that included in the latest ubuntu version?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> g0th: not sure if its default but its in repos
[13:28] <syntax\> well i have both interfaces and resolve conf configured
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> g0th: if your printer needs a newer version than the repos have yu will need a 3rd party repo or compile
[13:28] <syntax\> NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0 says networking is disabled tho
[13:29] <syntax\> to think im connected in here right now
[13:29] <syntax\> any work around
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: ignore it, if you are connected then yu are connected. If some gui app wants to be confused then let it\
[13:29] <g0th> Actionparsnip: ubuntu seems to have 2.8.7 version
[13:29] <syntax\> but FF, opens on offline mode everytime :(
[13:29] <g0th> latest ist 2.8.10
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: if you run lsmod and make sure you have all the same modules as are listed in the link I gave then you should be ok
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: i'll get you the fix
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> firefox is retarded
[13:30] <syntax\> YAY your so nice :D
[13:30] <Umeaboy> So's Epiphany to.
[13:30] <Myrth> are there any other benefits of using ubuntu x64, besides utilizing more than 4GB RAM?
[13:30] <g0th> ActionParsnip: I use cups, iirc if it is supported in hplip there should be a ppd file I can use, so instead of manually installing a newer version of hplip I could just download it and only extract the ppd file right?
[13:30] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Hmmm... I see.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+question/31925
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> g0th: im unsure as I dont have a printer but the hplip says its fully suppoprted
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> g0th: sudo apt-get install hplip
[13:32] <mikearthur> can someone describe how I can remove networkmanager on ubuntu and just make all my interfaces use DHCP on startup using the standard Debian way?
[13:32] <tavi> http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturecranxv8.png
[13:32] <tavi> hwy he tell me that?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: that will make firefox not detect offlineness and just be online regardless
[13:32] <g0th> ActionParsnip: is there a newer version available somewhere?
[13:32] <cdavis> How come I can't find smssend for intrepid with apt-get install smssend?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> !info hplip
[13:32] <g0th> I mean ubuntu packages or repository for a newer version
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> g0th: 2.8.7 is in repos
[13:33] <g0th> I need at least 2.8.10
[13:33] <g0th> latest is 2.8.12
[13:33] <tavi> http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturecranxv8.png
[13:33] <g0th> 2.8.7 vs. 2.8.12 is a pretty big difference ^^
[13:34] <tavi> http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturecranxv8.png
[13:36] <syntax\> ActionParsnip: mine is already set to true
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> g0th: see if you can enable "proposed" repository
[13:36] <g0th> I did
[13:36] <g0th> I think
[13:36] <g0th> it also has 2.8.7
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> tavi: i used to et that. fixed it with sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <tavi> ?
[13:37] <tavi> what
[13:37] <tavi> ?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> g0th: http://texasdrifter.blogspot.com/2008/11/ubuntu-8-and-hp-deskjet-f4280.html
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> tavi: it will redownload and reinstall the system and install anything missing, its a bit of a heavy handed way (and will take a while) but should fix you up
[13:39] <tavi> now ay
[13:39] <tavi> no way
[13:39] <Zack> hallow
[13:40] <mikearthur> can someone describe how I can remove networkmanager on ubuntu and just make all my interfaces use DHCP on startup using the standard Debian way?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> tavi: its all i can suggest personally, maybe someone else can help, or try again later in the day
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> tavi: your configs will stand, just that the apps will be reinstalled
[13:41] <syntax\> ActionParsnip: anyways sir, i uninstalled network manager instead
[13:41] <syntax\> to avoid the confusion
[13:41] <Zack> how to installig ati x1200 on ubuntu 8.10? have a direct url 4 me?
[13:41] <mne> Hi guys, how can I enable copy&paste with the middle mouse button. It seems to be disabled
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> syntax\: good call. I think its garbage
[13:42] <tavi> too radical solution
[13:42] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Can you at least tlel me how to communicate with the IRDA?
[13:42] <syntax\> sudo aptitude remove network-manager network-manager-gnome <-- followed this and did sudo aptitude remove network-manager network-manager-gnome
[13:42] <aksci> how can my machine get infected with acidkor.... ne1 faced this one?
[13:42] <syntax\> brb
[13:43] <aksci> aksci:
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: i've never used it. I thought it was kinda defunct now with bluetooth being so prollific
[13:45] <ZmAY> hello, need some help with installing printer on my 2nd old pc, i am running dapper, printer is samsung CLP-315
[13:47] <xnox> Hello =D My pulseaudio stopped working =( I have no sinks/sources available. All PA related apps give error "can't connect to server"
[13:50] <erUSUL> xnox: sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart ??
[13:50] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Okay.
[13:51] <g0th> ActionParsnip: it works now. Thanks a lot
[13:51] <ZmAY> any printer experrt here
[13:52] <SmileDay> Hello World!!
[13:52] <Guest46958> any help for TV time
[13:52] <Guest46958> yaragaala
[13:52] <mne> How can I enable copy&paste with the middle mouse button in gnome ? It seems to be disabled
[13:52] <aksci> what can be the command to suspend the machine after a particular time like we do for shutdown,.
[13:53] <daleharvey> can anyone please help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1067734
[13:53] <xnox> erUSUL: I can now at least open volume control. But there still is no sound =(
[13:53] <daleharvey> losing a few days worth of work If I cant get this fixed
[13:53] <erUSUL> xnox: :|
[13:53] <xnox> erUSUL: How do I revert pulseaudio package to like default config files?
[13:53] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Just wnated to see if I could do it... but seems it is beyond me.
[13:53] <erUSUL> xnox: did you edited its conf files?
[13:54] <xnox> erUSUL: maybe......... =)))))
[13:54] <xnox> erUSUL: yeah I did
[13:54] <erUSUL> xnox: maybe purging the packages and installing again
[13:56] <aksci> what is the command to suspend after a particular time!!
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: i'd have a go if you get free time, i'm sure its achievable
[13:58] <quibbler> my system login sound has stopped working...for the rest, sound is fine..amarok vlc mail notification etc work great
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: try: sudo findchip -v
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-253388.html
[14:00] <dad> hi!! looking for a working xorg.conf with nvidia nForce 610/GF7050
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: try: ls /dev/ir*
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> dad: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177; gksudo nvidia-settings
[14:02] <ozgur> hi, i'm a newbie in ubuntu
[14:02] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: nothing
[14:03] <ozgur> I couldn't write a text with newlines as a body in nofity-send command
[14:03] <wikkedfin> ozgur, so i am ;)
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: maybe its just a generic case but theres no IR sender/reciever
[14:03] <ozgur> I tried bu it couldn't work
[14:03] <runpain2> I need to check a hard drive it has windows xp loaded on it but i cant scan disk it with my bootup disk says its a network dive and when i scandisk /all it only does the cd rom or floppy drive what can i use from unbuntu to scandisk to check and see what are my bad scetors to see if my hard drive is bad i use seaptate hard drive for windows and ubuntu
[14:03] <fioccobianco> posso chiedere una cosa/
[14:03] <ozgur> /usr/bin/notify-send -u normal "New mail\n" "You have new messages in your inbox" -t 3000
[14:04] <ozgur> I couldn't write a text with newlines as a body in nofity-send command, what I tried is: "/usr/bin/notify-send -u normal "New mail\n" "You have new messages in your inbox" -t 3000" but it couldn't work
[14:04] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: I think I am too dumb for this.
[14:04] <fioccobianco> may l ask you something?
[14:04] <runpain2> !scandisk
[14:04] <ozgur> I couldn't write a text with newlines as a body in nofity-send command, what I tried is: "/usr/bin/notify-send -u normal "New mail\n" "You have new messages in your inbox\n\n" -t 3000" but it couldn't work
[14:05] <runpain2> actcually need to check if hard drive is bad
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: just keep at it. as far as the guides have said I dont think it has infared. But i could be wrong. Have a swing at it if you get time. IBM supprt linux very well
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | runpain2
[14:06] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: check http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-55318  There is says (and shows a picture) of the infrared port.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: doesnt mean theres an IR sender behind it
[14:06] <ozgur> I couldn't write a text with newlines as a body in nofity-send command, what I tried is: "/usr/bin/notify-send -u normal "New mail\n" "You have new messages in your inbox\n\n" -t 3000" but it couldn't work, how can i enable interpretation of backslash escapes in notify-send command
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: dos the system have windows on it too?
[14:07] <runpain2> Will that also do a scan like the dos does for windows
[14:07] <jackiemcghee> is there console app that will display a clock similar to the way ncmpc does? Sadly, any search of Google with clock, linux and console brings up a myriad of unhelpful info.
[14:07] <quibbler> fioccobianco: just tell your problem and someone will probably help
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: it will check the system for errors, if you drop to recovery mode root console, you can umount partitions and check them with and options you want
[14:08] <bjay> welcoem, i have separate screen (tv and noetbook monitor); does anybody know how to send application from one screen to another?
[14:08] <jrib> ozgur: use an actual newline?
[14:08] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: No.
[14:08] <ozgur> yes
[14:08] <runpain2> I still dont uderstand
[14:08] <ozgur> i want to enable the interpretation of newlines in notify-send command
[14:08] <jrib> ozgur: yes, use an actual newline by pressing ctrl-v enter for example
[14:08] <dad> ActionParsnip: here is my xorg:  http://pastebin.com/f7144c0c9
[14:08] <ozgur>  what I tried is: "/usr/bin/notify-send -u normal "New mail\n" "You have new messages in your inbox\n\n"
[14:09] <jrib> or just press enter
[14:09] <runpain2> a surface scan is what i want
[14:09] <ozgur> but it didn't work
[14:09] <jrib> ozgur: did you try either of my two suggestions just now?
[14:09] <runpain2> sudo shutdown -F -r now will that do it
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> dad: http://pastebin.com/f41d58235
[14:09] <dad> when I run sudo nvidia-settings, it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[14:09] <fiftyone> hello all, i was wondering if someone could help me with my interent. I go to alot of internet cafes with my laptop and until now I have always just pluged in the ethernet cabel and was online instantly. Today I am at a new cafe and for some reason my net is not working, I cannot connect. This is the second cafe I tried.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> runpain2: not sure but if you drop to the console you can run fsck with any options you choose
[14:10] <fiftyone> also, usually the ethernet cabel lights up when i connect it but now nothing... No lights no nothing.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> dad: ok so did you just run sudo nvidia-xconfig ??
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> dad: I think you are close
[14:11] <jackiemcghee> fiftyone: the two places you have tried, has your laptop worked there before? Or are these new places?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> dad: if you just ran sudo nvidia-xconfig you will need to restart your xserver
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> dad: then rerun gksudo nvidia-settings
[14:12] <fiftyone> jackiemcghee,  these are new places I have never been with this laptop before.
[14:12] <dad> I did: same error message
[14:13] <bjay> !video
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> dad: strange, whats the message again please
[14:13] <bjay> !nvidia
[14:14] <dad> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[14:14] <bjay> in which channel i can ask about separate screen?
[14:14] <tomkirby> can anyone help me: programs keep segfaulting randomly on my system
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> dad: ok try: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-177; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[14:15] <fiftyone> jackiemcghee, i have noticed that their internet is pretty bad here, really slow. However, I should still be able to connect with my laptop. Never had a problem before just pluged it in and it worked.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> dad: removes the 177 driver + deps and installs the 173 driver
[14:15] <tomkirby> i've checked that all my memory is ok with memtest86, and i've done an extensive check of my harddisk with smartctl
[14:15] <hyakuhei> Hi All, the Netbeans package wants to use a number of packages like libgcj - I have no intention of using these, is there a way I can just pull down the netbeans stuff without the deps and install it through apt so that I still get updates ?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tomkirby: does it happen to all users?
[14:16] <tomkirby> ActionParsnip: haven't checked yet
[14:16] <tomkirby> actionparsnip: i don't really know how to check that as it's pretty random
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tomkirby: make a new user and log on as it and run the system for a while
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tomkirby: use all your normal apps as the new user
[14:17] <dad> while purging, it says the the /usr/lib/tls folder was not empty and so has not been deleted
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> dad: not a problem
[14:17] <quibbler> my system login sound has stopped working...for the rest, sound is fine..amarok vlc mail notification etc work great
[14:17] <tomkirby> actionparsnip: it happened to avahi-daemon - is this process usually owned by the user or the system?
[14:18] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me where i can get the flash 10 for 64bit...i searched the adobe site...but didnt find it
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> tomkirby: http://pastebin.com/m1cf19b43
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: its the TAR.GZ file you want
[14:19] <hyakuhei> !netbeans
[14:19] <dad> done
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> dad: ok so now is nvidia-settings running ok?
[14:19] <fiftyone> jackiemcghee, ping :)
[14:21] <Lord_MuffloN^> Can anyone tell me why in gods name one of my NTFS drives won't show up in Windows anymore after adding it to /etc/fstab in Linux?
[14:21] <tomkirby> actionparsnip: i'll leave my machine running the test user for a few hours while i'm out and then see what the logs say when i get back!
[14:22] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; http://paste.ubuntu.com/117271/
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> tomkirby: if its ok then its your profile which i'd suggest you troubleshoot from the test user, rename config folders in the home folder til you get a stable system
[14:22] <daleharvey> does screen keep history
[14:23] <fiftyone> hi, i was wondering if someone could help me with an networking problem. I go to alot of net cafes with my laptop and until now I have always just plugged the cabel in and was online. However, today I have been to two cafes and my internet is not working at all. I am not even getting a light from the ethernet connection port it usually lights up...
[14:23] <fiftyone> these are new cafes i have never been to with my laptop before
[14:23] <heatmzzr> Why does my ubuntu only recognize 3gb of the 4gb ram i have?
[14:23] <deany> heatmzzr, you need to modify kernel to see 4gb or use server kernel
[14:23] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; what should i do now??
[14:24] <deany> heatmzzr, pretty silly really as 4gb is more common these days..
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: let me get the link
[14:24] <hateball> deany, heatmzzr: 64-bit is a viable option
[14:24] <Impulsive> hey all, anyone want to try and help me solve my apache/ubuntu problem?
[14:25] <deany> im guessing he doesnt have 64bit cpu..
[14:25] <dad> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/f5900aecf
[14:25] <deany> or he`d have used it.. just an assumption
[14:25] <dad> still in low-resolution... sniff
[14:25] <heatmzzr> hateball: 64bit
[14:25] <hateball> deany: 4GB and a 32-bit cpu seems strange tho :)
[14:25] <mandrig> !anyone
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: try: sudo apt-get instal flashplayer-nonfree
[14:25] <hateball> heatmzzr: I'd have installed the 64-bit version instead. Works a charm
[14:26] <hateball> heatmzzr: Even Flash and the Java plugin are 64-bit these days so
[14:26] <dad> here is the xorg log: http://pastebin.com/f181ec9c7
[14:26] <deany> 64bit version works with 32bit cpu system/
[14:26] <deany> ?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> dad: does gksudo nvidia-settings run ok now?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> deany: no, but 32bit can work on 64bit
[14:26] <cdavis> What program can I try to send SMS messages to Verizon cell phones? I am hoping to do something so that they Verizon SMS can still be considered "IN" txting.
[14:26] <dad> nope
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[14:27] <dad> hello xaos11!!
[14:27] <xaos11> hi
[14:27] <xaos11> any progress?
[14:27] <fiftyone>  hi, i was wondering if someone could help me with an networking problem. I go to alot of net cafes with my laptop and until now I have always just plugged the cabel in and was online. However, today I have been to two cafes and my internet is not working at all. I am not even getting a light from the ethernet connection port it usually lights up... these are new cafes i have never been to with my laptop before
[14:27] <dad> I removed the 9400GT, and I am struggling to have the onboard nForce610 working... but it looks the same...
[14:27] <Roq> fiftyone: what happens if you ifdown/ifup ?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> dad: try adding the resolution lines like in my xorg.conf
[14:28] <deany> never knew that.. hmmm..
[14:28] <dad> ok
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> dad: http://pastebin.com/f78b3a09e
[14:28] <fiftyone> Roq, I am not sure what you mean.
[14:28] <mandrig> cdavis: I read somewhere that sms is treated like email, and you should be able to send an email to thephonenumber@carrier.com
[14:29] <Roq> fiftyone: interface down interface up
[14:29] <xaos11> ActionParsnip: i thought that 8.10 doesn't use xorg.conf? or does it?
[14:29] <mandrig> cdavis: google email to sms, I'm sure you'll find something
[14:29] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; thank you very much...i am downloading it...can you tell me how to install
[14:29] <cdavis> mandrig: I can but the problem is Verizon doesn't consider that Verizon to Verizon texting and charge per message
[14:29] <perlsyntax> What is a good gui for python?
[14:29] <dad> ActionParsnip: you mean the line with "metamode..."?
[14:29] <xaos11> pygtk?
[14:29] <perlsyntax> that in the package manger for unbuntu
[14:29] <fiftyone> Roq, no idea i didnt try that. Like I said i usually just go plug it in and it works. but twice today it has not worked.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> dad: yeah
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[14:30] <perlsyntax> pygtk?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: then extract the .so file to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[14:30] <mandrig> cdavis: Oh, I don't know how to get around that... Besides, trying to get around that is likely violating the ToS
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> !info pygtk
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> !pygtk
[14:30] <perlsyntax> how do i install it
[14:31] <xaos11> perlsyntax: i don't know exactly what you mean about gui to python, but i have needed it before
[14:31] <xaos11> perlsyntax: do you need it to compile a package?
[14:32] <perlsyntax> you mean tar zxvf file name and then cd and then sudo make?
[14:33] <fiftyone>  hi, i was wondering if someone could help me with an networking problem. I go to alot of net cafes with my laptop and until now I have always just plugged the cabel in and was online. However, today I have been to two cafes and my internet is not working at all. I am not even getting a light from the ethernet connection port it usually lights up... these are new cafes i have never been to with my laptop before
[14:33] <xaos11> perlsyntax: if that's what you need it for, look for a package in synaptic called libpython-gtk, or just do a search for python gtk
[14:33] <heatmzzr> hateball: can i install 64 bit ubuntu without completely distroying other data?
[14:33] <xaos11> perlsyntax: and you might need to install the one with "-dev" at the end
[14:33] <perlsyntax> thanks
[14:33] <xaos11> perlsyntax: what you trying to install?
[14:33] <hateball> heatmzzr: Well if you put /home on it's partition you can keep that. / will get overwritten tho
[14:34] <xaos11> fiftyone: you have the usb adapter?
[14:34] <fiftyone> xaos11, what do you mean usb adapter?
[14:34] <hateball> heatmzzr: if you specifically tell the installer to keep /home, that is... not doing a guided install
[14:34] <quibbler> could someone shed some light on this: my system login sound has stopped working...for the rest, sound is fine..amarok vlc mail notification etc work great
[14:34] <heatmzzr> hateball: best to just wipe it out and restart anyway right, fresh everything?
[14:35] <b1> asda
[14:35] <dad> ActionParsnip: added the metamode option, restarted the X server... and now what? Nvidia-settings says the same message, and still stuck with 800x600
[14:35] <xaos11> fiftyone: i thought you were here yesterday taling about a usb wifi. maybe it was someone else. what type of connection do you use to get online?
[14:35] <hateball> heatmzzr: if it's a brand new install, yeah. Takes like 20 minutes anyhow :)
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> quibbler: what if you set it to something else?
[14:35] <hateball> heatmzzr: I suggest making a separate /home partition when/if you do so tho
[14:36] <fiftyone> xaos11, no not me. I am connecting threw a wired connection. Unplug from the pc plug it into the lappy. It usually works without a hitch but today its not working at all. No idea what the problem is.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> heatmzzr: hateball: +1 for home partition
[14:36] <heatmzzr> hateball: not that, just all the extra stuff. Ive been considering getting rid of winblows all together as I no longer use it so maybe a good time to do it all over... damn though, i got alot on these drives\
[14:36] <Roq> fiftyone: how is your eth interface configured? dhcp?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart    when you attach it
[14:37] <ociugi> i have problem with my totem, it played with sounds but no images.
[14:37] <hateball> heatmzzr: backup whatever data you need to an external source if possible, wipe the legacy OS and start anew :)
[14:37] <SunnyDP> ociugu: you dont like VLC ?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !plugins | ociugi
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> !plugins
[14:38] <quibbler> ActionParsnip: i did but that had no result..i find it strange because sound tests are all fine ...sound in other programs and devices are fine..just no system sound any more and no files play there either
 i install other video player but the same problem
[14:38] <SunnyDP> hmmm
[14:38] <SunnyDP> fresh ubuntu install: 8.10 ?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ociugi: have you installed the medibunti codecs?
[14:38] <heatmzzr> hateball; yep, thats what ill do... just gonna wait til tonight? so is the ext4 version out and stable yet?
 yes
[14:38] <LeoWei> ﻿i setting up no ip in my machine but i dont know what is the name of the network device connected to my computer.. The Vm still using NAT as the host interface is not functioning
[14:39] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip, nothing didnt work
 nut yet
[14:39] <LeoWei> anyone can tell me what the network??
[14:39] <silv3r_m001> hi there
[14:39] <SunnyDP> sounds to me like a CODEC problem like ActionParsnip said
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: do you get an ip address (run ifconfig)
[14:39] <hateball> heatmzzr: ext4 is stable, but the 8.10 kernel doesnt have it. So you'd have to go for 9.04 alpha if you want it
 *not yet
[14:39] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip,  I have Conection : lo
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ociugi: go get em
[14:39] <silv3r_m001> it sometimes happens that my hard disk suddenly starts working very vigorously and the computer becomes very slow almost hanged
[14:39] <ociugi> ActionParsnip>: ok i will try
[14:39] <silv3r_m001> why does that happen
[14:39] <mylarry> Hi! How can I add a new repository to apt-get?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: then the nic is either not detected or down
[14:39] <heatmzzr> hateball; 20 second bootup sounds nice. may wait then until it is stable
[14:40] <deany> what is the ext4 when you format with mkfs.ext4 then (8.10)
[14:40] <quibbler> ActionParsnip: i'm going to logout and in brb
[14:40] <LeoWei> !no-ip
[14:40] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip,  ipconfig = command not found
[14:40] <SunnyDP> fiftyone:ifconfig
[14:40] <SunnyDP> ipconfig is windows :D
[14:40] <fiftyone> lol
[14:40] <fiftyone> lol
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: try: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[14:41] <silv3r_m001> ActionParsnip: can u help me on my issue ?
[14:41] <Pirate_Hunter> hi can someone advise me on a good typing tutor?
[14:41] <SunnyDP> Pirate : me too please :D
[14:41] <LeoWei> ﻿i setting up no ip in my machine but i dont know what is the name of the network device connected to my computer.. The Vm still using NAT as the host interface is not functioning
[14:41] <fiftyone> nothing
[14:41] <ikonia> LeoWei: eth0
[14:41] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip, nothing
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: ifconfig, no ipconfig, ipconfig is windows
[14:42] <scientes> ahh xkill seg faults
[14:42] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip, yea i know my bad lol , ifconfig gives me a large list
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: it wont say anything after up, try ifconfig now
[14:42] <oCean_> silv3r_m001: using 'top' you could see what process is taking up how much cpu. Install "iotop" and use that to see what process is using most io
 i cant find  medibunti in synaptic
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ociugi: its not that simple
[14:43] <silv3r_m001> oCean_: hmm
[14:43] <SunnyDP> ociugu:follow tye tutorial i sent
[14:43] <perlsyntax_> for pygtk is it python -gtk2-dev ?
[14:43] <LeoWei> ikonia: i use NAT for this vm, does it still eth0?
[14:43] <ociugi> SunnyDP: ok
[14:43] <perlsyntax_> if i am right
[14:43] <fiftyone> i got Eth0 lo and ra0 connections listed here after ifconfig
[14:43] <SunnyDP> yes it does
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ociugi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[14:43] <oCean_> silv3r_m001: How often does it happen
[14:43] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip,  lots of information
[14:43] <quibbler> ActionParsnip: same no system sounds
[14:43] <SunnyDP> Leo
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: do you have an ip that fits your networks settings
[14:44] <gabri-shatana> ciao
[14:44] <perlsyntax_> does anyone use pygtk?
[14:44] <SunnyDP> later
[14:44] <silv3r_m001> oCean_: many a times... and like when I leave the computer idle for about 30 mins or so then it suddenly starts
[14:44] <heatmzzr> hateball; how can I tell if I can use 64bit version?
[14:44] <perlsyntax_> i want to make sure i got the right package.
[14:44] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip,  I am not sure man, basically, I have until now just plugged in and was online instantly, howver, today two different internet cafes and i havent been able to connect to eather.
[14:45] <xaos11> perlsyntax_ what are you trying to do again? compile something?
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> heatmzzr If you have over 4 gigs of ram and a cpu that can handle 64 bit.. but 32 is still recommended
[14:45] <xaos11> I run 64 bit
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: well if your network uses 192.168.0.x like many do and you have that ip in your ifconfi output then you are recieving dhcp
[14:45] <hateball> Why would you recommend 32-bit when 64-bit works just fine without nasty PAE hacks?
[14:45] <xaos11> used to have problems with flash etc but now its fine
[14:45] <perlsyntax_> someone told me in here to use libpython-gtk.But i found a package cll pygtk-2-dev
[14:45] <oCean_> heatmzzr: use 'sudo lshw -C cpu' to see what cpu you have
[14:45] <perlsyntax_> call
[14:46] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip,  I see. Is there some kinda application I can use to search for active connections?
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> hateball We have always recommended 32 over 64 .. for flash and other minor issues that new users seemed to have trouble with like chroot etc
[14:46] <LeoWei> ﻿ikonia: i use NAT for this vm, does it still eth0? I am using vbox
[14:46] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; i am tired of this 64 bit thing...got many flash problems....how can i make it 32 bit...do i have to reinstall....i suppose that's a big task
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: ifconfig will show you, if a device fails dhcp you will see a 164.254.x.x ip
[14:47] <silv3r_m001> oCean_: could it be due to somekind of scheduled indexing of files
[14:47] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; is there nothing simpler
[14:47] <hateball> Jack_Sparrow: Flash and Java are not an issue anymore
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight You cant downgrade.. reinstall is recommended
[14:47] <silv3r_m001> oCean_: when it happens the computer almost hangs
[14:47] <heatmzzr> width says 64bit.... is that what i was looking for?
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> hateball I do know that, but there are still issues with people on 64 bit
[14:47] <DarkKnight> Jack_sparrow; and i dont want to lose data as well
[14:47] <hateball> Jack_Sparrow: Such as?
[14:48] <oCean_> silv3r_m001: sure, if anything like that is scheduled, like "updatedb", but that should not run that often. See the /etc/cron.daily, cron.hourly et cetera.
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> hateball ask in another channel.. this is support.. not 32 v 64 discussion
[14:48] <heatmzzr> hateball: width says 64bit.... is that what i was looking for?
[14:48] <DStrevinas> fiftyone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/. Paste the results of your ipconfig command
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight backup /home for a start
[14:48] <DStrevinas> ifconfig
[14:48] <silv3r_m001> oCean_: coz when it happens even running top in konsole wud be difficult
[14:48] <fiftyone> ok
[14:48] <freegoo> hey guy, qemu but it seems to be running slow. is there another program i could use, or any prefromace tips you ncoulnd give me
[14:48] <xaos11> perlsyntax: that one might work, you might as well install them both, it cant hurt to have both packages
[14:48] <fiftyone> let me try because im not online on that machine
[14:48] <silv3r_m001> oCean_: so I just have to press the restart button
[14:48] <fiftyone> i sec
[14:48] <oCean_> silv3r_m001: install iotop. Let it run, and see what pops up
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> freegoo: virtualbox or vmware
[14:49] <cedrichurst> could anyone explain how this could be happening: http://cedric-screencasts.s3.amazonaws.com/UbuntuNoSuchFileError.mov
[14:49] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; how can i do that without transferring to some other system
[14:49] <dad> ActionParsnip: still the "unable to load Nvidia module when rebooting, I have to go in low-resolution mode...
[14:49] <cedrichurst> sorry for the mov link, btw... it was the only output my screencast tool would support
[14:49] <silv3r_m001> oCean_: E: Couldn't find package iotop
[14:49] <dad> the log says: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight there are lots of ways to backup your system.
[14:50] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; can you tell me how??
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[14:50] <oCean_> !info iotop
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> dad: you may need nvidia-glx-173-kernel-source
[14:50] <hateball> heatmzzr: yeah
[14:50] <heatmzzr> oCean_:  *-logicalcpu:0
[14:50] <heatmzzr>           description: Logical CPU
[14:50] <heatmzzr>           physical id: 1.1
[14:50] <heatmzzr>           width: 64 bits
[14:50] <heatmzzr>           capabilities: logical
[14:50] <heatmzzr>      *-logicalcpu:1
[14:50] <heatmzzr>           description: Logical CPU
[14:50] <heatmzzr>           physical id: 1.2
[14:50] <heatmzzr>           width: 64 bits
[14:50] <heatmzzr>           capabilities: logical
[14:50] <heatmzzr> is that what i was looking for
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> dad: apt-cache search nvidia-glx-177 | grep source
[14:50] <oCean_> heatmzzr: do not paste here
[14:50] <hateball> !pastebin | heatmzzr
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> heatmzzr: uuse pastebin
[14:51] <mustangg1> hey the chan.. Q: Is there a similar linux util in ubuntu as the MS dxdiag, where it can test various basic settings for audio/video, etc..?
[14:51] <dad> 173, not 177!!
[14:51] <hateball> heatmzzr: It's up to you really. Use 64-bit which works perfectly fine for me and many others, or hold on to old technology and mess about with PAE kernels...
[14:52] <danina> ciao
[14:52] <dad> ActionParsnip: nvidia-173-kernel-source was already installed
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> dad: well we pulled 177 and installed 173
[14:52] <dad> yep
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ok thats cool, when it installed did it compile the nvidia kernel?
[14:52] <dad> but the problem was the same with 177
[14:52] <heatmzzr> hateball: I just wanted to be sure i could run 64bit. Which by the looks of things here I can... thanks man
[14:52] <dad> I don't know
[14:53] <dad> I haven't pais attention
[14:53] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117287/ thank you BTW :)
[14:54] <hateball> heatmzzr: also, the live-cd will tell you right away if it doesnt like your cpu :)
[14:54] <calamari> lol.. if by "tell" you mean.. it just wont work, then yes
[14:54] <cedrichurst> so i feel like i'm missing something pretty basic, but it's driving me crazy
[14:54] <cedrichurst> i'm trying to launch a file called "install"
[14:55] <cedrichurst> i ls and the is in the pwd
[14:55] <jiffe92> when doing an apt-get, if it says size mismatch on the deb, where is it pulling that size from?
[14:55] <cedrichurst> i do ./install and i get a "no such file or directory" message
[14:55] <jiffe92> this is from our local repository and I just repackaged that package with some additional files
[14:55] <cedrichurst> not "invalid permissions", but "no such file or directory"
[14:55] <jiffe92> suppose I could just change the version
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: ok try this: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> heatmzzr Problems installing from Livecd... At start or install screen, press F6 and remove splash and quiet,  if that does not work do it again but now also add noapic acpi=off before the -- on the command line
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: and reboot
[14:55] <cedrichurst> but the file is clearly there
[14:55] <pavel_> $this->_output->setPlaceholder('linkbar', $tpl);
[14:55] <cedrichurst> what could be causing this?
[14:56] <heatmzzr> hateball: it will like it fine, gonna try 64bit and see how it goes.. I think april is scheduled release date of stable ext4
[14:56] <Like> atento a.k.a CQ
[14:56] <Like> buenos dias
[14:56] <n8tuser> cedrichurst-> which file is there?
[14:56] <hateball> heatmzzr: you can always convert to ext4 later on anyhow
[14:56] <heatmzzr> besides fresh install I will be completely done with WINBLOWS
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > Like
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: that will blank you network config which you can re-establish next boot
[14:57] <cedrichurst> n8tuser: take a look at this screen capture... http://cedric-screencasts.s3.amazonaws.com/UbuntuNoSuchFileError.mov
[14:57] <oCean_> cedrichurst: see the first line of the "install" The interpreter (e.g. !#/bin/bash) might be wrong
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> fiftyone: the file is only renamed so we can roll back
[14:57] <heatmzzr> yeah, will install 64bit this evening.. cant now.. laptop I use for work
[14:57] <fiftyone> ActionParsnip,  ok cool thanks alot man.
[14:57] <cedrichurst> oCean_: it's a binary file
[14:57] <Shadoweaver> Hello everyone, I have a question.  Does xubuntu need a c++ compiler to run programs c++ programing or does vi handle it?
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[14:58] <Like> yea
[14:58] <calamari> you dont need a compiler to run programs, you need a compiler to COMPILE programs shadoweaver
[14:58] <Like> :))
[14:58] <oCean_> cedrichurst: ok. the mov was cool though :)
[14:59] <n8tuser> cedrichurst-> but the file it may need is not on the current dir?
[14:59] <Shadoweaver> Ok, I am a bit confused.  I am new to xubuntu and trying to learn how to program in c++.  What is ment by compiling the program?
[14:59] <dad> that's hopeless.;;; I GIVE UP....
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadoweaver Please see the link from Ubottu above on compiling
[15:00] <Shadoweaver> ok.
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> dad is this a 6600 nvidia?
[15:00] <cedrichurst> oCean_: yeah, that's possible
[15:00] <n8tuser> cedrichurst-> it uses its own jre? so that maybe the case
[15:00] <dad> nope, a nForce610/GF7050
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Shadoweaver: source code is plain text that coders write to make a program work. They use common libraries and functions to work. If you want to compile you will make a binary (or program) which your system can run to make the program work
[15:00] <datakid> hey, I set focus=strict under metacity in gconf-editor on unbuntu intrepid...do I need to restart gnome for it to take effect?
[15:00] <cedrichurst> n8tuser: yeah, it does use its own jre
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> dad sorry, have not seen or dealt with one of those
[15:01] <cedrichurst> is there a way to determine which file it's looking for
[15:01] <xahuar>  /msg NickServ identify noporolo
[15:01] <dad> and what about a GF9400GT?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Shadoweaver: as a basic user you cacn probably install pre-compiled packages (the stuff you apt-get) and achieve the same end
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> xahuar go change your password NOW
[15:01] <oCean_> cedrichurst: do a "file ./install" Does that return something like "executable" ?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow: d'oh ;0
[15:02] <Like> np
[15:02] <xaos11> I liek 64 bit
[15:02] <dad> This computer had a GF9400GT in PCI Xpress, with a ECS motherboard and a nForce610/GF7050 on-board chipset
[15:02] <Like> i be nedd that
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> ActionParsnip not like most of us have not made that same mistake
[15:02] <datakid> Jack_Sparrow, i did it this morning, doh
[15:02] <datakid> annoying
[15:03] <oCean_> cedrichurst: use "strace -f ./install 2>/tmp/debug.txt" to trace the execution. Output of strace is in /tmp/debug.txt. Search that file for the missing file(name)
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Like /join #ubuntu-es           or /join #ubuntu-pt               or /join #ubuntu-br
[15:03] <LeoWei> !pastebin
[15:03] <cedrichurst> elf 32-bit lsb executable, intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow: true
[15:04] <Like> Jack_Sparrow,  how make mf :)
[15:05] <Shadoweaver> Jack_Sparrow:  Thanks for the info.  That helps.  But do I really need to compile a program that I am writing in order to run it?
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadoweaver Yes
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadoweaver unless bash script or something.. but yes
[15:05] <sriramoman> i have to run <timidity `locate tempest`> but certain directories returned by locate command create errors if spaces exist in their names. where am i supposed to insert the quotes?
[15:05] <Chousuke> there's a C interpreter too
[15:05] <Chousuke> but usually you wouldn't use such a thing.
[15:06] <adubz> i want to have a drive mount everytime ubuntu loads instead of having to issue the mount command
[15:06] <adubz> can someone help me with this
[15:06] <jrib> adubz: filesystem?
[15:06] <adubz> yes
[15:06] <oCean_> adubz: add the drive/partition to /etc/fstab file
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadoweaver You may want to spend some time in CC++ channel or one of the many others
[15:06] <nextma> #openobject
[15:06] <Like> :=))
[15:06] <Dillizar> xsensors
[15:06] <Shadoweaver> I am sure that my tutorial I found on it will explain any further ANNOYING question I may have.  If I have any questions that are not covered in my tutorial can you help?
[15:07] <jrib> adubz: I mean *what* filesystem?
[15:07] <Dillizar> !xsensors
[15:07] <Shadoweaver> cc++ channel?
[15:07] <xaos11> lol
[15:07] <Dillizar> !sensors-x
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib morning..  can you talk with Like.. he is from Uraguay and seems to be having language issues
[15:07] <adubz> its a slave hard drive i added
[15:07] <Dillizar> !x-sensors
[15:07] <cedrichurst> oCean_: http://rifers.org/paste/show/8773
[15:07] <zleap> erm
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !irc
[15:07] <adubz> my master comes up and this one comes up as scsi device annd i cant click on it when OS loads
[15:07] <zleap> adubz try fdisk -l to get the correct partition
[15:07] <oCean_> adubz: see next link for wiki page on fstab https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[15:07] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: unfortunately I was just about to walk out the door
[15:08] <zleap> a normal hdd should mount surely
[15:08] <Dillizar> why x-sensors are not working for me
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib np
[15:08] <cedrichurst> oCean_: should i just install coreutils, then?
[15:08] <adubz> i know the correct name b/c i can mount its /dev/sdb1
[15:08] <Ascavasaion> what port (/dev/something) does  an infrared port use?
[15:08] <zleap> ok
[15:08] <cedrichurst> i thought that came with ubuntu out the box
[15:08] <Shadoweaver> not right now of course.  I guess I could always come back here.
[15:08] <adubz> not sure of the parameters i add in but ill ssee what i can do with fstab
[15:08] <oCean_> cedrichurst: that's a start
[15:08] <Shadoweaver> Thanks ubottu
[15:08] <n8tuser> cedrichurst-> perhaps read up on how to install that..
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadoweaver ubottu is a bot that we trigger to present factoids to users in channel
[15:09] <cedrichurst> will do
[15:09] <oCean_> cedrichurst: indeed. coreutils, and try again
[15:09] <adubz> /dev/sdb1       /media/tb       auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0     <--- does that look good that is the line  i added to fstab
[15:10] <jrib> adubz: depends on the answer to my question, but now I must go...
[15:10] <cedrichurst> sudo apt-get install coreutils -> "coreutils is already the newest version"
[15:10] <cedrichurst> is there an internationalized version of coreutils i need to install
[15:11] <Like> how make a file into the c++ chanel
[15:11] <cedrichurst> the langpack
[15:11] <xaos11> yay firefox finally in the repository
[15:11] <oCean_> adubz: the third field (where you specify 'auto') should represent a filesystemtype. like ext3, ntfs ...
[15:12] <Shadoweaver> Jack_Sparrow:  Sorry annoying question,  what is a "bot"?
[15:12] <Dillizar> i have problems with my totem! An error occurred Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[15:12] <quibbler> my system sounds in hardy are no longer working.....however sound in general is fine...could anyone shed some light  as to why?
[15:12] <xaos11> Shadoweaver: it's a program that submits automated replies
[15:12] <xaos11> !bot
[15:13] <oCean_> adubz: and your line should end "0 0", not only "0" - each line contains 6 fields.
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadoweaver silly software program pretending it is a human...  :)   scripted user perhaps..
[15:13] <adubz> k im giong to reboot
[15:13] <Shadoweaver> Oh.  Ok.  I get it!  Thanks.
[15:13] <adubz> ill come back and let you guys now how it worked
[15:13] <oCean_> adubz: not necessary
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:13] <adubz> oCean what do you mean
[15:13] <oCean_> adubz: type "mount -a"
[15:13] <adubz> how can i test then
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> oCean_ Still nice to know when something worked..
[15:14] <oCean_> adubz: that's what happens each boot sequence
[15:14] <Like> upgrade grub dont work
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> adubz yes.. run mount -a
[15:14] <Dillizar> !totem
[15:14] <Dillizar> !codecs
[15:14] <Like> totem have the codec
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Like we need full and complete questions and your language barrier seems to be a problem here
[15:15] <H8_Machine> I have a problem- on my kernel 2.6.28.1 in 8.10, after installing nvidia-glx-180 from repos, glx module won't load at start, because xserver is using xorg.conf.failsafe all the time
[15:15] <H8_Machine> any solution?
[15:15] <Like> wll im reading the licences today
[15:15] <adubz> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[15:15] <Like> sorry mf Jack_Sparrow
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> H8_Machine Where did you get that kernel.  running jaunty perhaps?
[15:15] <Dillizar> like use google translator pls :) its the best
[15:16] <oCean_> adubz: what did you specify for filesystem in /etc/fstab? You had 'auto'. I told you to change
[15:16] <H8_Machine> Jack_Sparrow: i compiled it myself
[15:16] <adubz> /dev/sdb1       /media/1.5tb       vfat    default 0 0
[15:16] <oCean_> adubz: is the directory /media/1.5tb existing?
[15:17] <adubz> yes
[15:17] <adubz> i had to create it
[15:17] <adubz> in order to attempt mount -a
[15:17] <Ascavasaion> Whoever invented Infrared... hope you dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
[15:17] <CyL> How do I restore windows MBR after installing ubuntu?
[15:17] <MuffloN^> How do I unhide a NTFS partition in Linux?
[15:17] <oCean_> adubz: and "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" tells you that there is 1 partition /dev/sdb1 with vfat?
[15:17] <MuffloN^> lilo is my boot manager
[15:17] <Boohbah_> CyL: if you restore the windows MBR you won't be able to boot ubuntu. are you sure you want to do that?
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> CyL restoring mbr will kill ubuntu grub..
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> CyL are you just trying to get windows included in your grub menu?
[15:18] <oCean_> Ascavasaion: that's not nice
[15:18] <adubz> /dev/sdb1               1      182401  1465136001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[15:18] <CyL> Boohbah_, Jack_Sparrow: I can still run from the live cd and install grub on ubuntuś partition
[15:18] <adubz> yes
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> MuffloN^ What release of ubuntu are you using
[15:19] <Ascavasaion> oCean_: Ja well... too bad for him.
[15:19] <Shadoweaver> !c++ tutorial
[15:19] <oCean_> adubz: use ntfs-3g for filesystem type in your /etc/fstab
[15:19] <MuffloN^> 8.10
[15:19] <adubz> k
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> CyL install grub on the mbr of the bootable sda drive
[15:19] <Dillizar> i have installed flash player 10! but when i open my firefox its showing that i have 9! how can i fix this
[15:19] <CyL> Jack_Sparrow: nope, I'd really like to restore windows MBR... I must use windows in work, I installed ubuntu to give it a try, but every time I start my computer i gets on ubuntu
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> MuffloN^ and why lilo?  we use grub by default
[15:20] <adubz> mount -a ran fine
[15:20] <MuffloN^> Jack_Sparrow: Because it's easier to manager with Linux Live
[15:20] <adubz> let me see if drive is accessible
[15:20] <oCean_> adubz: ok!
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> CyL are you in ubuntu now.. or on livecd
[15:20] <SunnyDP> Dzillar: in a terminal window type: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:20] <CyL> Jack_Sparrow: besides this, I think it is easier to include ubuntu in windows boot menu
[15:20] <CyL> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu
[15:20] <Dillizar> SunnyDP, k but i think it will not do any thing
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> CyL then you need help from the windows people on editing their boot.ini
[15:21] <CyL> Jack_Sparrow: that would be allright for me to do
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> CyL and it is not easier
[15:21] <adubz> nice it appears all is working now
[15:21] <tuna-fish> Hi. How can I change the language that an user starts with when more than one language is installed?
[15:21] <MuffloN^> Well, Jack_Sparrow: Got any ideas?
[15:21] <oCean_> adubz: that's how we like it :)
[15:22] <Dillizar> SunnyDP, flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[15:22] <adubz> yep thanks man
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> MuffloN^ Nope
[15:22] <CyL> Jack_Sparrow: isn't kind of a virtual package that restores windows MBR?
[15:22] <SunnyDP> Dizilar: now type: sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:22] <SunnyDP> and then
[15:22] <SunnyDP> Dizilar: now type: sudo apt-get update
[15:23] <SunnyDP> and after that try the flashplugin afgain
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> CyL we used to have ms0sys or something, but I think it was pulled.. just use a windows boot disk and get help from the windows channel
[15:23] <LeoWei> hat the command to restart any app?
[15:23] <LeoWei> !restart
[15:23] <LeoWei> what*
[15:23] <jeeves_Moss> how do I set up BlueProx?  I can't get it to lock my system with my phone
[15:23] <oCean_> MuffloN^: unhide ?
[15:23] <MuffloN^> Yes, it gets set as hidden it seems
[15:23] <SunnyDP> LeoWei the kill command ?
[15:23] <CyL> Jack_Sparrow: I don't have a wind boot disk, since I'm on a laptop without floppy...
[15:23] <Odd-rationale> LeoWei: send it the SIGUP signal?
[15:24] <LeoWei> kill command? i just awnt to restart my no-ip application
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> CyL windows cd will  work
[15:24] <CyL> Jack_Sparrow: I'm almost sure that there such a package, as I recall doing this trough a package in the past
[15:24] <oCean_> MuffloN^: When, where... ? "sudo fdisk -l" does not show your partitions?
[15:24] <SunnyDP> LeoWei: close and restart
[15:24] <MuffloN^> oCean_: Oh it shows it, and it can be seen and used in Linux
[15:25] <MuffloN^> Too bad booting Windows 7 and trying to use it there, is a no go
[15:25] <cedrichurst> oCean_ & n8tuser: so i verified that i have coreutils installed, and i have the /usr/share/locale-langpacks/en langpack installed
[15:25] <MuffloN^> /dev/sda2            5737       13288    60653564   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[15:25] <cedrichurst> but how do i get the en_US-UTF8 langpack
[15:25] <oCean_> MuffloN^: ow ok. And that is Linux' fault?
[15:25] <MuffloN^> oCean_: Actually, yes, it's lilo's fault
[15:26] <MuffloN^> or well, partly my fault as well
[15:26] <oCean_> MuffloN^: :)
[15:26] <MuffloN^> But it's still partly lilo's as well, I'm not alone! :P
[15:26] <SunnyDP> what's a Mufflon ? :D
[15:26] <n8tuser> cedrichurst-> what does the site say about the need to use coreutils?
[15:26] <MuffloN^> A mufflon is a sheep
[15:27] <cedrichurst> n8tuser: which site?
[15:27] <DarkKnight> i have gzip installed but i am still unable to access a gzip file...
[15:27] <Symmetria> question, if I need to rebuild my kernel from scratch, how do I extract my current kernel config so I dont have to go through and reconfigure the new kernel from step 1
[15:27] <n8tuser> cedrichurst-> whereever you downloaded that program you're attempting to install
[15:27] <Symmetria> I've done it before I just cant remeber how
[15:27] <oCean_> cedrichurst: sorry, no clue to that langpack..
[15:27] <cedrichurst> n8tuser: oh, it doesn't
[15:27] <cedrichurst> it's officially only supported on rhel & suse
[15:28] <DarkKnight> i have gzip installed but i am still unable to access a gzip file...can anyone help
[15:28] <n8tuser> cedrichurst-> then why are you asking it here in ubuntu?
[15:28] <IcyPolecat> hiya, can anyone help with an ATI dual head config problem - running Intrepid 32bit
[15:28] <LeoWei> there is no software running and cannot close and restart SunnyDP
[15:28] <Pici> DarkKnight: How are you trying to access it?
[15:28] <cedrichurst> n8tuser: bc ubuntu is the distribution i'm using currently, and i'm trying to avoid installing rhel or suse
[15:29] <oCean_> MuffloN^: well, were are the lilo addicts when you need'em. What could lilo've done to that partition?
[15:29] <DarkKnight> Pici; i just clicked on the folder and tried opening it and it says archive type not supported
[15:29] <n8tuser> cedrichurst -> i suggest you read up from their web site and find out whats needed to run it on diff distros
[15:29] <c0rrupt0r> I am having audio problems with ubuntu intrepid. I don't believe I am a member of the audio group. I have executed the command "groups" in terminal and here is what i get: c0rrupt0r adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare ..What shall I do or how to become a member of the audio Group
[15:29] <MuffloN^> oCean_: Flag it as hidden
[15:29] <MuffloN^> There is a fdisk command for this
[15:30] <MuffloN^> To change the partition type
[15:30] <MuffloN^> BUT WHAT THE HECK IS IT
[15:30] <Pici> DarkKnight: Perhaps its not really gzipped. Ubuntu has support for gzipped files out of the box.
[15:30] <cedrichurst> n8tuser: ok, thanks
[15:30] <mandragora22> hi can anyone help me saving my system?
[15:30] <cedrichurst> i think i have a lead on the langpack thing
[15:30] <Pici> DarkKnight: If you want to try from a terminal. You can do: gunzip file.gz
[15:30] <n8tuser> MuffloN^ -> on the fdisk menu   choose m  for help
[15:31] <DarkKnight> Pici; actually i backed up my home directory... and i just wanted to see it
[15:31] <mun> does anyone know of any way to test the bandwidth using the console, or any bandwidth testing sites that works with lynx?
[15:32] <^FANTASY^> ПРИВЕТУШКА
[15:32] <Pici> !ru | ^FANTASY^
[15:32] <ikonia> mun: ntop ?
[15:32] <^FANTASY^> О.о Пасиба
[15:33] <roger_padactor> hello, i installed ubuntu over abuntu but it added it as another operating system how do i get rid of the old one so its not there anymore?
[15:33] <rohan__> how do install GRUB,through a live CD,just GRUB
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[15:33] <ikonia> !grub > rohan__
[15:33] <mun> ikonia: but does it allow me to test both my download and upload bandwidths?
[15:33] <ikonia> mun: that's just he card through put
[15:34] <mun> ikonia: yeah that's what i thought
[15:34] <c0rrupt0r> I am having audio problems with ubuntu intrepid. I don't believe I am a member of the audio group. I have executed the command "groups" in terminal and here is what i get: c0rrupt0r adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare ..What shall I do or how to become a member of the audio Group
[15:34] <ikonia> mun: there are many websites like broadbandspeedtest.net
[15:34] <Enissay> What is transmission-remote for transmission client?
[15:34] <Ascavasaion> How do I check if my notebook has bluetooth?  I did a lspci and lsusb but nothing looks positive there
[15:34] <rohan__> will that reinstall just GRUB???
[15:34] <dny> hi! does anyone uses netbeans 6.5 on a multi screen system? is it possible to detach the whole editor? i mean i can detach single documents and position them on the other screen, but new documents are opened again within the ide...
[15:34] <mun> ikonia: yeah but most of the sites use flash
[15:35] <ikonia> mun: granted
[15:35] <mariam> hi folks
[15:35] <CyL> Jack_Sparrow: just in case, I guess I found a solution using a package called mbr, wich is still matained
[15:36] <CyL> I'm going to reboot now, to test it, thanks for your help
[15:37] <c0rrupt0r> can anyone help me please thank you
[15:37] <c0rrupt0r> I am having audio problems with ubuntu intrepid. I don't believe I am a member of the audio group. I have executed the command "groups" in terminal and here is what i get: c0rrupt0r adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare ..What shall I do or how to become a member of the audio Group
[15:37] <dhruvasagar> hey guys, is there some way to filter out messages only from a particular user in a channel in IRC ?
[15:37] <bryant> How can you tell if Ubuntu is using a proprietary driver?
[15:37] <ikonia> dhruvasagar: depends on your client
[15:37] <ikonia> bryant: for what device ?
[15:37] <ikonia> bryant: system->administration->hardware driver gui
[15:38] <dhruvasagar> ikonia: I am using chatzilla, which one are you using?
[15:38] <ikonia> dhruvasagar: irssi
[15:38] <dhruvasagar> ikonia: so can we filter?
[15:38] <ikonia> dhruvasagar: check your client documents
[15:38] <ikonia> dhruvasagar: I'm sure you can
[15:38] <dhruvasagar> ikonia: you mean logs?
[15:38] <gotgnu> what is the name of the new automatix installer
[15:38] <mariam> i have a weir issue, i have an nvidia graphic card and i'm using nvidia-glx-new package in kubuntu hardy, when the computer boots the x server does'nt start and a if i try to execute startx by hand it says that don't found the nvidia gpu or the kernel driver or the files of the driver, then if i execute sudo modprobe -r nvidia the X server starts with no problem, ç
[15:38] <ikonia> dropbear: no real time
[15:39] <gotgnu> altomatix or something
[15:39] <ikonia> gotgnu: doesn't exist any more
[15:39] <mariam> ¿how can i fix that?
[15:39] <ikonia> gotgnu: automatix is dead and gone
[15:39] <bryant> For my video card
[15:39] <wikkedfin> you dont need automatix
[15:39] <ikonia> bryant: check the gui I suggested
[15:39] <wikkedfin> everything you need you can do without
[15:40] <gotgnu> there is a new one I just can't think of the name
[15:40] <ikonia> gotgnu: then its not supported here
[15:40] <ikonia> gotgnu: and as mentioned - you don't need it, its a dead concept
[15:41] <c0rrupt0r> I am having audio problems with ubuntu intrepid. I don't believe I am a member of the audio group. I have executed the command "groups" in terminal and here is what i get: c0rrupt0r adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare ..What shall I do or how to become a member of the audio Group
[15:41] <wikkedfin> wikkedfin@ubuntu:~$ groups
[15:41] <wikkedfin> wikkedfin adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[15:42] <wikkedfin> my sound works fine
[15:42] <matador> hi
[15:42] <Chousuke> c0rrupt0r: adduser c0rrupt0r audio
[15:42] <annie> can any 1 help me
[15:42] <annie> i m new in ubuntu
[15:42] <Chousuke> c0rrupt0r: then log out and log back in
[15:43] <gotgnu> ok I got it sorry it was ubuntu tweek
[15:43] <roger_padactor> hello, installed new unbuntu over the old one, went thru the install process and made a partition. i thought it would format the drive and reinstall everything, but it didn't it added it as another operating system and now i can mount my old ubuntu. how do i get rid of this?
[15:43] <annie> matador :
[15:43] <annie> hi
[15:43] <annie> matador: will u help me
[15:43] <c0rrupt0r> Chousuke: Thank you
[15:44] <ikonia> annie: ask a question
[15:44] <ricky_clarkson> I have a wonky X configuration for some reason, and would like to stop X.
[15:44] <ricky_clarkson>  /etc/init.d/gdm stop says [ OK ], but does nothing.
[15:44] <annie> ikonia :
[15:44] <ricky_clarkson> What should I do?
[15:44] <annie> hi sir
[15:44] <david__> hello
[15:44] <ricky_clarkson> I am ssh'd into the machine running these commands.
[15:44] <annie> How can i install data 1x driver
[15:44] <david__> i'm looking for help with my ubuntu 8.10 system
[15:45] <david__> i have problems with the atheros pci wireless card
[15:45] <david__> i've tried everything on all the forums and I still can't get it to work
[15:45] <ali1234> if i deleted a system file, how can i restore it with apt/synaptic?
[15:46] <bjay> ricky_clarkson: sudo /etc....
[15:46] <ali1234> david__: what card?
[15:46] <oCean_> Ascavasaion: See next link on bluetooth setup: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup.
[15:46] <david__> thanks - atheros AR242X
[15:47] <orifice_work> ugh
[15:47] <ricky_clarkson> bjay: Yes, I did that.
[15:47] <david__> right now I'm using a wired connection to get online
[15:47] <orifice_work> I've imaged a drive onto a larger drive
[15:47] <ricky_clarkson> bjay: Bah.  I believed I had.  An error would be nice.
[15:47] <ricky_clarkson> Thanks.
[15:48] <ali1234> david__: did you try installing linux-backports-modules-intrepid?
[15:48] <orifice_work> I've imaged a drive to a larger drive but grub won't start even if I install it manually after (w/ grub -> root (hd0,0) -> setup(hd0).  The process seems to proceed fine though.  Is there a step I'm missing
[15:48] <annie> ikonia: r u der
[15:48] <jacobi> any experts here on connecting a linksys router to a verizon westell dsl moden while running Ubuntu 8.04?
[15:48] <david__> i did try installing the backports module
[15:48] <david__> that didn't work
[15:48] <annie> can any one help me to connect my BSNL data 1x mobile dial up modem
[15:48] <david__> should i do it again
[15:48] <ali1234> david__: did it actually use the module ath5k?
[15:49] <annie> can any one help me to connect my BSNL data 1x mobile dial up modem
[15:49] <david__> that i don't know
[15:49] <david__> how can I tell if it saw it?
[15:49] <ricky_clarkson> When I start X, it appears corrupt.  Is there something I should run?
[15:49] <ikonia> annie: yes, ask a question
[15:49] <ali1234> david__: check dmesg
[15:49] <ricky_clarkson> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg # doesn't fix it.
[15:49] <david__> I'll do that now
[15:49] <annie> can any one help me to connect my BSNL data 1x mobile dial up modem
[15:50] <dhruvasagar> annie: what problems are you facing?
[15:50] <ikonia> annie: I don't even know what that kit is, let me google it, I suspect it's a win modem
[15:50] <annie> ikonia:  how can i install driver
[15:50] <ali1234> david__: there are two different drivers for atheros cards, ath_pci aka madwifi hal which is the old driver, and ath5k/ath9k which is the new driver.
[15:50] <dhruvasagar> ikonia: BSNL is a ISP
[15:50] <david__> OKAY
[15:51] <Shadoweaver> I am trying to learn how to use a program language.  C++ seems a bit out of my league.  What language should a beginner to unix start?
[15:51] <annie> dhruvasagar: how can i install driver
[15:51] <annie> i have data 1x Huaie mobile modem
[15:51] <david__> sorry about the caps
[15:51] <david__> I did the dmesg and I see where I tried to use ndiswrapper
[15:51] <ali1234> david__: the old driver isn't really updated much, but the new driver is still not really ready. so you have to try both, and with the new driver you may have to try multiple different versions of it before you find one that works
[15:51] <david__> ouch
[15:51] <david__> so what is the procedure i need to follow?
[15:51] <ikonia> dhruvasagar: ahh thank you
[15:52] <dhruvasagar> annie: how do you connect to your modem?
[15:52] <ali1234> david__: it depends exactly which card you have
[15:52] <dhruvasagar> annie: usb/com ?
[15:52] <annie> Huwawei modem
[15:52] <freegoo> guy what virtual machine software should i run? qume, vmware, xen?? are any faster thwan otherws???
[15:52] <david__> i understand that but are there specific steps I need to follow once I load the backports package
[15:52] <david__> ?
[15:52] <annie> i have only windows driver
[15:52] <annie> ikonia: i have only windows driver
[15:52] <ali1234> david__: the backports package didnt work for me
[15:53] <ali1234> david__: for others it does
[15:53] <ikonia> annie: the windows driver is not usable, I'm just trying to find info on the modem
[15:53] <Shadoweaver> Is bash an easy language to learn?  If so where does one start?
[15:53] <david__> i understand
[15:53] <dhruvasagar> annie: drivers are for a modem, ubuntu should be able to support it out of the box in my opinion
[15:53] <dhruvasagar> annie: have you tried to connect to the modem?
[15:53] <ikonia> Shadoweaver: not really an ubuntu question
[15:53] <Aiot> Hey everyone!
[15:53] <Myrth> anyone can recommend mysql gui for ubuntu?
[15:53] <ikonia> Shadoweaver: have a look around the web
[15:53] <ali1234> david__: you can also try compiling the latest ath5k/ath9k drivers from source which gets you a newer one, that did work for me
[15:53] <ikonia> Myrth: mysql-admin
[15:54] <david__> i have tried wpa_supplicant, wicd,  ndiswrapper, and every other thing I could find
[15:54] <dhruvasagar> Myrth you can install MySQL admin package
[15:54] <ali1234> david__: however there's no point messing around with that unless you know for sure which driver you are currently testing :)
[15:54] <Myrth> is that the best available?
[15:54] <david__> LOL
[15:54] <Guest98514> hello ppl, does anyone know any free sms gateway?
[15:54] <david__> that makes sense
[15:54] <Guest98514> provider?
[15:54] <dhruvasagar> Myrth: check out synaptic, it is available indeed
[15:54] <jiffe92> why am I seeing this when that version of the package doesn't even exist on the repository?  'Get:7 http://repository.jiffe.com hardy/main pamldap 1.8.2-2ubuntu2 [99.5kB]'
[15:55] <annie> ikonia: the modem name is Huawei EC325
[15:55] <Shadoweaver> Ok.  Your right.  Sorry.  But I do have a hard drive that I would like to mount to xubuntu but, I don't know how.  Can anyone help with this?
[15:55] <Aiot> I'm having a problem getting the Nvidia drivers working on a Dell xps m1340 with a Nvidia 9500m card.  If I install any of the restricted drivers and reboot I get a black screen that says "No Screens" and I cant start X.  Any help would be awsome
[15:55] <jiffe92> I did an apt-get update, but this didn't seem to fix it
[15:55] <Guest98514> or such a gateway that I can install on ubuntu?
[15:55] <annie> dhruvasagar: Yes i had tried
[15:55] <david__> should I disable the support for atheros 5XXX in my hardware drivers section?
[15:55] <ali1234> david__: probably
[15:56] <ali1234> david__: is that from ndiswrapper?
[15:56] <dhruvasagar> Aiot: you should try and installing the drivers from synaptic instead of the hardware section....
[15:56] <david__> i think so
[15:56] <Aiot> I have tried it both ways
[15:56] <Aiot> I have reinstalled Ubuntu 8.10 7 times now
[15:56] <Aiot> have also tried to use the beta 180.29 driver
[15:56] <dhruvasagar> Aiot: what version Nvidia drivers did you install?
[15:57] <annie> dhruvasagar: i dont know the driver is detected or not
[15:57] <dhruvasagar> hmm
[15:57] <Aiot> I have tried the 177, 172 and the 180.29
[15:57] <Aiot> err 173
[15:57] <david__> okay - i've deactivated the support for the atheros card in the hardware drivers section
[15:58] <Aiot> no matter which ones I try, once I reboot I cant startx
[15:58] <ali1234> david__: is the backports module still installed?
[15:58] <dhruvasagar> annie: hmmm I am not very much aware about it sorry, try here you should get help
[15:58] <annie> ikonia: did u found any thing
[15:58] <ikonia> annie: nope, not yet
[15:59] <Aiot> would the no screens error be a xorg.config issue?
[16:00] <dhruvasagar> annie: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[16:00] <Aiot> I have tried to let nvidia config the file and also the defualt from the restricted drivers
[16:00] <annie> dhruvasagar: i m very very new to linux
[16:00] <ali1234> david__: you need to first disable the old driver: put a line "blacklist ath_pci" into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-local
[16:00] <ali1234> david__: then install the backports module and reboot
[16:00] <ali1234> david__: after reboot do "sudo modprobe ath5k" and check dmesg
[16:01] <ali1234> david__: you might need to use ath9k instead
[16:01] <dhruvasagar> annie: its alright, you'll make it :)
[16:01] <ali1234> david__: if it still doesn't work try the daily snapshot
[16:01] <fr00d> Hello!
[16:01] <annie> dhruvasagar: can i get the manual of ubuntu as i have just migrated from windows
[16:02] <fr00d> Do I have to be worried about this suspicious file found by chkrookit? /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-xen/volatile/.mounted
[16:02] <dhruvasagar> annie: you should just search in google....
[16:02] <Pici> annie: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[16:02] <annie> dhruvasagar: i had but i ddnt got the manual
[16:02] <ricky_clarkson> When I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I don't get asked any graphics questions, only keyboard ones.
[16:02] <Aiot> Anyone a Video card expert ;-)
[16:03] <dhruvasagar> annie: you should try System->Help & Support
[16:03] <annie> Pici: can i get manual der
[16:03] <annie> dhruvasagar: i cantunderstand that help
[16:03] <dhruvasagar> annie: why is that?
[16:04] <Shadoweaver> Hey, maybe someone could explain why my copy of xubuntu runs like a herd of turtles stampeding through penut butter and the the response time is a force to be reckond with?
[16:04] <Aiot> Are there any Ubuntu shops you can send them your laptop and pay to have it installed and working with all the drivers?
[16:04] <david__> sorry - my son called
[16:04] <annie> dhurvasagar: coz one of my frd had done all these
[16:04] <david__> thanks alil234
[16:05] <annie> dhurvasagar: so i m able to talk
[16:05] <fr00d> apt-file search and dpkg -S didn't find the file /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-xen/volatile/.mounted whose file is that?
[16:05] <david__> I'm going to follow your instructions now
[16:05] <annie> dhurvasagar: even i dont know to install
[16:05] <annie> dhurvasagar: i nill in linux.
[16:06] <ali1234> david__: good luck
[16:06] <Aiot> lol @ shadoweaver
[16:06] <AwaDoV> hi
[16:06] <dhruvasagar> annie: that's not a problem
[16:06] <david__> blacklist ath_pci was already in the file
[16:06] <Pici> annie: Like I said. https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/index.html is a good place to start.
[16:06] <Wizzup> Aiot:
[16:06] <dhruvasagar> annie: you will get to know things
[16:06] <Shadoweaver> Any suggestions?
[16:06] <annie> dhurvasagar: where is control panel
[16:06] <david__> I'm install the backports module now
[16:06] <Wizzup> Why not install it yourself, this channel is here for support and help. I am sure you will manage to install it
[16:07] <Wizzup> annie: What exactly do you want to change. Also, what Desktop envoriment are you on. Do you have Gnome or KDE?
[16:07] <jiffe92> I have a program I want to make a package of, it is a commercial program that has an install process, I'll need to be able to track what files are created, anyone know a good way to do this?
[16:08] <Aiot> I have it installed however I CAN NOT GET the nvidia driver installed.  I actually just got done doing all the updates on a fresh install of 8.10 (8th time reinstalling).  Every time I try to enable the nvidia drivers and reboot I get welcomed with a Black screen letting me know it cant startx
[16:08] <jiffe92> the machine I am installing it on is not an active machine so determining any new files would probably be good enough
[16:08] <AwaDoV> hi
[16:08] <AwaDoV> how i can make the taskbar bigger
[16:08] <Wizzup> Aiot: System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[16:09] <AwaDoV> ?
[16:09] <SunnyDP> awadov
[16:09] <SunnyDP> right click on it
[16:09] <david__> i reinstalled the backports for intrepid
[16:09] <dhruvasagar> annie: Sytem menu has most of the administrative
[16:09] <Wizzup> Oh right. Aiot, ehm. So the actual config does not work?
[16:09] <SunnyDP> and go to properties
[16:09] <david__> now I'm going to reboot and rejoin this chat - thanks
[16:09] <Aiot> Wizzup: if I activate one of those drivers (even the reccomended ones) and reboot I cant startx
[16:09] <BTuser93> hi
[16:09] <SunnyDP> change pixel size :D
[16:09] <SunnyDP> right ???
[16:09] <Bolin> How do i recieve files via bluetooth from another bluetooth device?
[16:09] <Wizzup> Aiot: I see... Ehm. Did you try sudo nvidia-xconfig before logging out?
[16:09] <BTuser93> #ubuntu-fr
[16:10] <Myrtti> Bolin: if you're in Ubuntu, install gnome-bluetooth and use the gnome-obex-server to receive
[16:10] <AwaDoV> noooooooooooo
[16:10] <BTuser93> why i can not go to unbuntu-fr??
[16:10] <Shadoweaver> Does anyone else have problems with xubuntu locking up on them?
[16:10] <Aiot> Wizzup: no, but I did run it once I couldnt startx
[16:10] <macman> whats the best website to find my up and down speed of my dsl ?
[16:10] <Pici> BTuser93: type: /join #ubuntu-fr
[16:10] <Bolin> Myrtti: Will try that .. thanks
[16:10] <[nrx]> hi all. After a recent update, none of my multimedia works. I get the usual startup sound when Ubuntu launches however, if i want to view a video file or listen to music (local or streamed) ubuntu hangs (I can't change windows, launch or close but mouse works). Can anyone suggest a resolution?
[16:10] <profanephobia> whats it called when i want to workstations to boot from a image on a ubuntu server, and can it be done without the use of hdds?
[16:10] <annie> dhurvasagar: there is no option for driver installation
[16:11] <Aiot> it reconfig'd my xorg file however it still couldnt startx
[16:11] <BTuser93> no it s not ok
[16:11] <BTuser93> :-(
[16:11] <Myrtti> BTuser93: do you get some error message?
[16:11] <trygg> i can mount a hdd anywhere, including within my home folder right?
[16:11] <Wizzup> Aiot: And what did it output?
[16:11] <BTuser93> no i dont thing
[16:11] <Aiot> wizzup: the xorg file?
[16:11] <Wizzup> No, nvidia-xconfig
[16:11] <Wizzup> Did it say it was succesful?
[16:12] <abc> im running ubuntu on a netbook with a 9" screen. sometimes windows are too large all i can't see the whole window. i have to scroll up and down to see the full window.. any fix for that for the window to resize automatically?
[16:12] <Bolin> Myrtti: I installed it but how do i start it?
[16:12] <Aiot> wizzup: let me activate the driver and sudo run the config.  I'll tell you extactly.  Worst case I just reinstall for  a9th time
[16:12] <Wizzup> Aiot: I am sure you can disable the drivers without reinstalling
[16:13] <Myrtti> Bolin: you should get an entry to your applications menu with "Bluetooth File Sharing"
[16:13] <Bolin> There it is.. didnt see it first:)
[16:13] <Aiot> Wizzup:  Well I'm not that good with linux to know what to do without a gui
[16:14] <Myrtti> !away > jos-away
[16:14] <hacker_kid> when i create a user with users and groups a home folder isnt created for them
[16:14] <Aiot> Wizzup:  so I just reinstall.  Prolly faster to spend 15 mins reinstalling then poke around tryin to startx without the driver again
[16:14] <Wizzup> Aiot: There is probably an easy way. I'd tell you to google how to deactivate them, but meh.
[16:14] <orifice_work> Under what conditions would grub not be detected on boot after a #grub -> root (hd0,0) -> setup (hd0)  command ?
[16:15] <Aiot> Wizzup: alright, going to activate and sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:15] <Aiot> 1 sec
[16:15] <Wizzup> Aiot: Let's pray
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> orifice_work if sda1 did not contain ubuntu with a /boot folder
[16:15] <Wizzup> Aiot: You might also want to nvidia-settings before logging out
[16:16] <Wizzup> see if it states that you have to enable it
[16:16] <Aiot> Wizzup:  lucky number 8 eh?
[16:16] <Wizzup> Aiot: :p
[16:16] <AwaDoV> my screen resolution is 1024-784 or something like that ... and no thing better although the card on windows support many resolution better ?
[16:17] <Shadoweaver> Can anyone tell me where to find help with my system.  The bot it not much help.
[16:17] <AwaDoV> how i can fix ?
[16:17] <Wizzup> AwaDoV: Did you install the drivers for your video card?
[16:17] <orifice_work> Jack_Sparrow: would grub stage1 at least start though and print a message about not being able to find stage 2 or 1.5 ?
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> orifice_work what os is on sda1
[16:18] <Aiot> Wizzup: k activated and ran nvidia-xconfig.  Output some warnings about "No layout specified constructing implicit layout section using screen defualt screen" and "Unable to find corepointer in X configuration, attempting to add new corepointer section"
[16:18] <orifice_work> it's fedora
[16:18] <IcyPolecat> hi again, now seriously need help with ATI dual head config - I've aticonfiged, tried to use the Catalyst control centre and am still stuck with 2 monitors, seperate X sessions (or looks like) and a res of 1024 x 768 on both... HELP PLEASE!!!
[16:18] <orifice_work> it has the same boot structure as ubuntu though
[16:18] <Wizzup> Aiot: Just a sec
[16:18] <Shadoweaver> I went to the help and support and got this bot thing.  It answered some of my questions but did not resolve the ultimate problem.  Can anyone help?
[16:19] <orifice_work> grub in /boot/grub
[16:19] <rootrot> Hi how do i use wget to copy a entire directory from a website
[16:19] <Aiot> Wizzup: it says it created a new x configuration file
[16:19] <Wizzup> Aiot: That should be good then
[16:19] <AwaDoV> hey sunnyDP
[16:19] <Aiot> Wizzup: k here goes a reboot
[16:19] <Wizzup> Aiot:
[16:19] <SunnyDP> yeah?
[16:19] <Wizzup> Just log out
[16:19] <xenol> hey. i got problems with running dust cold theme in other distro than ubuntu. i got murrine-svn and themes installed but it's not working
[16:19] <zippytech2> whats the trick to setting a static ip on 8.04
[16:19] <Aiot> Wizzup: k loging out
[16:20] <Shadoweaver> Where does one find a human help and support from the help and support team?
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadoweaver There is a fee for that service.. canonical
[16:21] <Pici> Shadoweaver: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.  If you have a question, just ask it (all on one line).
[16:21] <baltazor> !codecs
[16:22] <Shadoweaver> I am brand new to this xubuntu thing and it runs slower than windows2000.  What gives!
[16:22] <baltazor> !codec
[16:22] <baltazor> !mp3
[16:22] <Aiot> Wizzup: Same issue as the other 7 tries
[16:22] <Aiot> Wizzup: asking me to login via cousel no gui
[16:23] <Fersure> iTunes 8.0.2.20 stopped
[16:23] <Aiot> wizzup:  I try to log in and it says "Fatal Error: No Screens found"
[16:23] <Wizzup> Aiot: Hmmmmm
[16:23] <Shadoweaver> I was told this copy of xubuntu I have would make my computer run better.  I am having more troubles with it than I know how to deal with.
[16:23] <Wizzup> Aiot: Check the xorg.conf
[16:23] <Pici> Shadoweaver: If you would elaborate what sort of issues you are having we may be able to help you.
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadoweaver Please ask direct questions.  all on one line.  relating to your problem or issue
[16:23] <calamari> often when something linux runs really slow, i find its because you dont have all the correct drivers installed
[16:23] <Wizzup> Does it have a section screen?
[16:23] <Aiot> Wizzup: I get a xinit: Connection refused (errno 111) and xinit no such process (errno 3)
[16:24] <Wizzup> Aiot: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:24] <maria> hello
[16:25] <maria> i have a network problem with my newly installed 8.04
[16:25] <Shadoweaver> Well, it loads things at a snails pace.  Every now and then it will lock up.  And when I run ANY program, the keyboard response seems delayed.  Help!
[16:25] <Aiot> Wizzup:  yes it has a screen section
[16:25] <Wizzup> What does it say
[16:25] <Wizzup> ehm, paste at pastebin.com
[16:25] <maria> seems that everytime I restart my PC I have to manually reenter the securtiy WPA to get my internet connection to work
[16:26] <maria> any ideas where the problem lies
[16:26] <profanephobia> i need for my workstations (with no hdds) to boot from an image on the network, can someone point me towards a tutorial to get me started please?
[16:26] <annie> how can iknow dat my hardware is detected or not?
[16:26] <Aiot> Wizzup:  1 sec work calls
[16:26] <maria> i tried manual IP and dhcp
[16:26] <Wizzup> ok Aiot
[16:26] <maria> either way i always have to reenter the WPA
[16:26] <annie> how can iknow dat my hardware is detected or not?
[16:26] <Wizzup> maria: Ah. So wireless problems
[16:27] <IcyPolecat> anyone?
[16:27] <annie> can any one helpme?
[16:27] <maria> Wizzup.  Im a windows user and just jumped ship to Ubuntu
[16:27] <Wizzup> Hm, are you sure there's no reconnect option?
[16:27] <annie> can any one help me
[16:27] <maria> Wizzup.  Im not Linux savvy but i do know networks
[16:27] <jStefan> !translation
[16:27] <annie> maria: same here
[16:28] <maria> Wizzup...reconnect is not the problem...the other users in the house have connection to the external IP
[16:28] <fiftyone> howdy all, where is the best place to get games for linux?
[16:29] <maria> Wizzup...only the Ubuntu machine, i have to manually reenter the WPA
[16:29] <Wizzup> maria: I understand that,
[16:29] <Wizzup> I'll google a bit
[16:29] <Wizzup> http://linuxoutlaws.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=766
[16:30] <fiftyone> never been a gamer but i do like a good game now and again
[16:30] <Wizzup> maria: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769829&page=1
[16:30] <Shadoweaver> When I was running windows 2000, my computer worked fine.  But, my father told me if I used xubuntu 8.10 it would run 10 times faster.  Why does it run slow?
[16:30] <wulonghao> 都是英语我不懂阿
[16:30] <Wizzup> The answer probably lies there
[16:31] <Wizzup> Shadoweaver: Did you set up all drivers, what are comp specs, what tasks are running. What is running slow?
[16:31] <jStefan> I found a bad translation, there is already a suggestion in place in launchpad, but it's been there since 2006-10-11, are there any additional steps needed?
[16:31] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: what are your computer specs?
[16:32] <Wizzup> maria: Also, mind that Ubuntu 8.10 has a new Network Manager. It is quite user friendly. You might want to try that if all else fails. (Not that 8.10 is bad)
[16:32] <fiftyone> guess we dont have alot of gamers here
[16:32] <IcyPolecat> please - can anyone assist?
[16:32] <sathyrion> I'm a small-time gamer
[16:33] <J-Un17> has anyone tried that reactor os?
[16:33] <Shadoweaver> Wizzup, j-Un17:  Well, I have Celeron 533mhz processer with 156mb ram.
[16:33] <maria> Wizzyup...reading you links now
[16:33] <ikonia> J-Un17: is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[16:33] <Wizzup> Shadoweaver: I think that is below the minial specs Ubuntu specified
[16:33] <Shadoweaver> Just about every program, including the xfce menu take forever to load.
[16:33] <maria> wizzyup...not sure, where is the option to continously try and connect?
[16:33] <genii> Shadoweaver: You need more ram
[16:33] <sathyrion> I run steam source, wow, bf2, gw, left4dead etc..
[16:33] <Wizzup> You might want to try Damn Small Linux instead
[16:34] <annie> how caniknow my usb hard ware is detectedor not
[16:34] <Wizzup> maria: I don't know, I am on 8.10, which has a new network manager
[16:34] <jStefan> Shadoweaver: you would benefit from more memory
[16:34] <tonyyarusso> Shadoweaver: it'ss also possible that you didn't specify enough swap space when you installed.
[16:34] <Shadoweaver> Then why was I told to use this version rather than others
[16:34] <Aiot> Wizzup:  post bin now
[16:34] <Shadoweaver> what is swap space tonyyarusso
[16:34] <tonyyarusso> annie: dmesg will tell you if it sees it being connected at all.
[16:34] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: with those specs, i don't think anyything would run incredibly fast
[16:34] <Wizzup> Aiot: Ok. I hope I can help, I'm not too great with xorg.conf
[16:34] <tonyyarusso> Shadoweaver: Space on the hard drive that is set up to act as a (slower) extension of RAM, also known as virtual memory.
[16:34] <Shadoweaver> I hate windows 2000 but, it seems that it worked better.
[16:34] <Aiot> Wizzup : http://pastebin.com/m5e5c4f01
[16:35] <maria> wizzyup...im going to update to 8.10
[16:35] <maria> Wizzyup...bbl
[16:35] <sathyrion> dsl would run ok
[16:35] <Wizzup> ok maria
[16:35] <Wizzup> good luck
[16:35] <Shadoweaver> Oh, kinda like cache?
[16:35] <Aiot> Wizzup:  I couldnt copy and paste becuase its on a laptop with no gui and I dont know how to do it any other way
[16:35] <fiftyone> games, linux, anyone?
[16:35] <tonyyarusso> Shadoweaver: No, the Windows equivalent is the pagefile.
[16:35] <Wizzup> Aiot: That looks alright. Is that all, though?
[16:35] <sathyrion> fiftyone, Yes, What u asking about?
[16:35] <jStefan> I found a bad translation, there is already a suggestion in place in launchpad, but it's been there since 2006-10-11, are there any additional steps needed?
[16:35] <Shadoweaver> Oh "pagefile" ok.  How do I go about doing that?
[16:35] <J-Un17> i would buy a new comp, like a 200 dollar one, or upgrade the mem on it. if you tried to install xp i think it would probubly flip out too\
[16:36] <Myrtti> jStefan: you could try to get it included upstream
[16:36] <Aiot> Wizzup for the scren section
[16:36] <fiftyone> sathyrion,  I am looking for some good linux games, where is the best place to get games for linxu?
[16:36] <Wizzup> Aiot: It looks alright to me. You might want to alternatively google for your card specs + ubuntu X problems
[16:36] <Shadoweaver> Do you think that will fix my problems
[16:36] <mne> Hi, how can I have the OS X exposee effect on gnome using compiz ? There is an expo plugin in compiz, but instead if the OS X expose effect which shows all windows on a desktop (by aligning all windows next to each other so that no window is ontop of another window), the plugin does a different effect
[16:36] <tonyyarusso> !games | fiftyone
[16:36] <jStefan> Myrtti, how would i do that? i was thinking more if a bug should be reported and where?
[16:36] <Wizzup> See if other people had the same problem and have solved it some how
[16:36] <innociv> what does ubuntu have like mpstat?
[16:36] <mib_s1zwxgho> Hello friends I had a problem while configuring network settings in Ibex! Can you guys help me out?
[16:36] <IcyPolecat> hi again, now seriously need help with ATI dual head config - I've aticonfiged, tried to use the Catalyst control centre and am still stuck with 2 monitors, seperate X sessions (or looks like) and a res of 1024 x 768 on both... nothing I do seems to affect this and I'm going quietly crazy here. PS if #ubuntu isn't the place to get answers can someone suggest a more appropriate channel?
[16:37] <jiffe92> I have a program I want to make a package of, it is a commercial program that has an install process, I'll need to be able to track what files are created, anyone know a good way to do this?
[16:37] <sathyrion> Linux native games can be found in Add/remove in your Programs menu. Shoothers, puzzles and strategy. Or you can run wine/cedega to get windows titles running
[16:37] <mib_s1zwxgho> Hello friends I had a problem while configuring network settings in Ibex! Can you guys help me out?
[16:37] <Myrtti> jStefan: that's exactly what I mean - launchpad is usually used mainly for ubuntu bugs, but sometimes those bugs aren't transported to the original project.
[16:37] <tonyyarusso> jiffe92: Odds are that you aren't legally allowed to do so.
[16:37] <Shadoweaver> genii I know I need more ram it is just that I currently can't afford to buy it right now.
[16:37] <Aiot> Wizzup:  I have several times.  I guess its back to windows.  I hate to go back AGAIN.  Over the past several years I have tried to use linux but I always have Video card issues and I dont know enough to fix them.  I had it all working for a few months however got this new laptop and now .... meh
[16:38] <sathyrion> Aiot, What GFX Card?
[16:38] <Wizzup> Aiot: What is your GFX card name?
[16:38] <Aiot> Nvidia 9500m
[16:38] <annie> how caniknow my usb hard ware is detectedor not
[16:38] <Aiot> its a Dell XPS m1340
[16:38] <jStefan> Myrtti, i think i've identified what i should do, thanks
[16:39] <genii> Shadoweaver: Well, at least the box is operational for now, even if extremely slow
[16:39] <sathyrion> Aiot, Simple to install it. Type in consol: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[16:39] <IcyPolecat> annie: pull up a terminal, plug in the hardware and issue the dmesg command.
[16:39] <Shadoweaver> However, how does one set up the virtual memory?
[16:39] <Wizzup> annie: Your question is very vague
[16:39] <Shadoweaver> True.  But it is aggrivating
[16:39] <mib_s1zwxgho> Hello friends I had a problem while configuring network settings in Ibex! Can you guys help me out?
[16:39] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  No matter what nvidia driver I install, once I reboot I cant start x
[16:40] <sathyrion> Aiot, What is the error in you log?
[16:40] <Shadoweaver> !virtual memory
[16:40] <Shadoweaver> grr.  stupid bot
[16:40] <shadeslayer> mib_s1zwxgho: go on
[16:40] <Shadoweaver> lol
[16:40] <Wizzup> Aiot: I beleive there is a version 180
[16:41] <Aiot> Wizzup:  I have tried 180.29
[16:41] <sathyrion> Aiot, From ubuntu repos?
[16:41] <Wizzup> Aiot: Darn
[16:41] <tonyyarusso> !swap | Shadoweaver
[16:41] <Aiot> no didnt see 180 in the ubuntu repo
[16:41] <[gloom]> hi there
[16:41] <Shadoweaver> thanks
[16:41] <sathyrion> Aiot, There is one there
[16:42] <ChrisRipley> got a nvidia quadro fx 1300. Anyone know how to make it run dual screens?
[16:42] <mib_s1zwxgho> I am required to manually enter the IP address, dns servers etc so as to connect to internet. When I do so by editing the eth0 properties and save it returns back to aoutomatic DHCP sttings
[16:42] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: good luck bro
[16:42] <mib_s1zwxgho> Please help
[16:42] <sathyrion> nvidia-180-modaliases
[16:42] <Wizzup> Aiot: What do the X logs say?
[16:42] <sathyrion> Aiot, nvidia-180-modaliases
[16:42] <Wizzup> /var/log/Xorg.0.log or something
[16:42] <Shadoweaver> Hopefully J-Un17 it will help to some extent.
[16:42] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 now
[16:42] <shadeslayer> J-Un17: i wont help,rather i cant,i have kubuntu
[16:42] <sathyrion> Aiot, use: sudo apt-get install nvidia-180-modaliases
[16:43] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  k will do
[16:43] <shadeslayer> mib_s1zwxgho: enable DHCP then
[16:43] <Shadoweaver> However, I don't remember having the option of setting up SWAP when I installed xubuntu 2 days ago.
[16:43] <shadeslayer> on your router
[16:43] <J-Un17> shadowweaver: yeah, it's one of those things where you need to fix the hardware before fixing the software, but the swap should help out a lil.
[16:44] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  says it cant find package nvidia-glx-180-modaliases
[16:44] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: when you installed it, remember where it asked about your partitions?
[16:44] <tonyyarusso> Shadoweaver: If you used to automatic "do everything for me" option you would never have seen it.
[16:44] <sathyrion> Aiot, only nvidia-180-modaliases
[16:44] <Shadoweaver> Yea
[16:44] <[gloom]> I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 from the cd iso (kernel 2.6.27-7). All went fine, LAN worked flawless (RTL8101E/RTL8102E). I just ran the update manager, and it installed among other updates, the new kernel (2.6.27-11) and now I got the interface eth0, but it does not detect when the cable is plugged/unplugged. Any idea about what can be doing this??? Thx
[16:44] <tonyyarusso> !lowmem | also check this out Shadoweaver
[16:44] <Shadoweaver> I know.  I am still learning
[16:45] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  k, its done.  should I startx or reboot?
[16:45] <sathyrion> Aiot, reboot
[16:45] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: DO A MANUAL PARTITION THING, ANd in there you should be able to create the swap then the partition for /
[16:45] <Wizzup> Aiot: reboot is always easier
[16:45] <J-Un17> caps lock cruise
[16:45] <J-Un17> sorry
[16:45] <SidGBF> Guys... anyone knows where can I find information about Free Software Licenses in a short way? I have no idea where to look for it
[16:45] <tonyyarusso> SidGBF: can you be more specific?
[16:45] <J-Un17> sidgbf: wikipedia :)
[16:45] <Wizzup> SidGBF: www.gnu.org
[16:45] <skeebo_> Hi guys, I have an external drive with a FAT32 FS running on my ubuntu 8.10 desktop. I was wondering if there is a tool for ubuntu I can use to defrag my external drive?
[16:46] <shadeslayer> J-Un17: manual partition thing lol
[16:46] <SunnyDP> of course
[16:46] <skeebo_> Or would it be ok to mount my external drive to my windows xp vm and defrag it there?
[16:46] <SunnyDP> juts like any other drive !!!1
[16:46] <Shadoweaver> Oh, I do remember seeing that.  Do you think it would help to mount my other 10 gig hard drive and set it up for just swap?
[16:46] <J-Un17> shadeslayer: i'm technical like that :P
[16:46] <SidGBF> tonyyarusso: I wanted a small paragraph describing it, so I have an idea about wich one I want
[16:46] <cdavis> I got a document scanner working with Intrepid, can someone suggest a good Document Manage application?
[16:46] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  Same thing:  cant startx
[16:46] <cdavis> I want to save nearly everything I receive in paper format
[16:46] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  do I need to remove the 177 driver?
[16:46] <tonyyarusso> SidGBF: In terms of comparing different licenses, your best options are wikipedia and the OSI site.
[16:46] <sathyrion> Aiot, What does the error log say
[16:47] <SidGBF> OSI?
[16:47] <maria> Wizzyup....downloading updates now.  Realized that my connection is 1mbit.  How do i tell Ubuntu to use a faster connection...it is a 56mbit card
[16:47] <LeoWei> i have lamp server but how do i point my domain to my lampserver? my ip is dynamic and i dont have static ip from my isp.
[16:47] <Shadoweaver> !mount
[16:47] <J-Un17> shadowweaver: you should only need to use about 3  gigs on the swap, nothin too much. but if you want to go extreme if might work
[16:47] <LeoWei> !ip
[16:47] <Wizzup> maria: Are you sure the wireless router isn't just 1mbit?
[16:47] <maria> !wlan driver
[16:47] <maria> Wizzup....let me look
[16:48] <lithixium> leonel, I you using a service like dyndns
[16:48] <Shadoweaver> J-Un17:  Do I find info on how to mount that hard drive and set it up as SWAP on the help page?
[16:48] <shadeslayer> !wifi
[16:49] <leonel> lithixium: no  I don't
[16:49] <lithixium> LeoWei, Are you using a service like dyndns
[16:49] <LeoWei> lithixium: but dyndns gives sub domain
[16:49] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  I see Nvidia dlloader driver 180.11 amd tjem Primary device is: (EE) No Devices Detected
[16:49] <lithixium> leonel, sorry, wrong username :P
[16:49] <LeoWei> lithixium:  then the domain point to that subdomain
[16:49] <LeoWei> lithixium:  that will be troublesome
[16:49] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  Datak server error:  No Screens Found
[16:49] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: if it is a usb, i think as long as it's plugged in when you try to re-install it it should come up, it did with mine, almost destroyed my pron :)
[16:49] <leonel> lithixium: i know  no problemo
[16:49] <trygg> trying to use a custom command in nautilus, how do i specify the file selected as a wildcard?
[16:50] <treenester> anyone know how to share a bluetooth broadband connection over network?
[16:50] <Shadoweaver> No it is internal.  I have not mounted it yet.  Don't know how to yet
[16:50] <sathyrion> Aiot, Try to reconfigure your xserver
[16:50] <lithixium> LeoWei, hmm
[16:50] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: and it does not show up when you try to install it?
[16:50] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  how?
[16:50] <SidGBF> thanks folks
[16:51] <maria> wizzup....its the easybox a801...im almost positive it can do more than 1mbit
[16:51] <maria> but ill look it up to be sure
[16:51] <Wizzup> maria: I more or less meant your actual connection with the provider
[16:51] <maria> oh
[16:51] <IcyPolecat> well thanks everyone - have finally managed to get full res by using the open source driver and xrandr. Not ideal but at least I'm not going crosseyed trying to read giant terminal output.
[16:51] <Wizzup> Not the modem. I was a bit vague I recon
[16:51] <lithixium> LeoWei, without a static IP, I'm not sure what else you can do
[16:51] <maria> yeah...thats 16mbit
[16:51] <Shadoweaver> I thought that when I installed it 2 days ago, I partitioned it.  Guess not.
[16:51] <Tbolt> can anyone help with a sound card issue... i have 8.10 on a Dell xps400 and i can't seem to get the (Sigmatel Stac92xx) sound card's "line in" or "mic" ports to work
[16:51] <sathyrion> Aiot, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:51] <maria> Wizzup...the other PC as a strong 16mbit connection from the ISP
[16:51] <Wizzup> maria: Using wifi?
[16:51] <Shadoweaver> But I did find a website that might help.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[16:52] <maria> Wizzup...yes
[16:52] <maria> no
[16:52] <maria> #wait
[16:52] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: if you are going to do that, back up all your stuff off of that hard drive then try to re-install it with the manual partition
[16:52] <maria> wizzup...hes cabled
[16:52] <Wizzup> Wifi is generally quite slow, at least slower than cable
[16:52] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: it should show up
[16:52] <Tapout> i hit ctl+-   and it zoomed out, made my font 1/2, how do I increase it?  ctl++ does nothing
[16:52] <J-Un17> shadoweaver: good luck again
[16:52] <LeoWei> lithixium:  then if i use the no-ip i still need to use the subdomain to point to my ip is it?
[16:52] <Tapout> there we go
[16:52] <Tapout> nevermind
[16:52] <J-Un17> time for class, i hate network design/troubleshooting
[16:52] <Shadoweaver> I have nothing on it.  It is still, practically a clean install
[16:52] <maria> Wizzup...the upload bandwidth is 1mbit, same as download.  I am suspecting something to do with a driver setting here
[16:53] <wardt> Tbolt, tried all the sound systems via System>Prefs>Select Multim...?
[16:53] <Wizzup> Possibly... I haven't experienced problem with it alot
[16:53] <maria> wizzup...what terminal commands can i use to "look" at my Wifi NIC
[16:53] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  ran though config.  just did default options.  Rebooting now
[16:53] <Wizzup> maria: I don't know that, sorry. Just a normal ubuntu user my self. :)
[16:53] <macman> http://i.dslr.net/imc/0/5/2/7/66662380.png <-- how do you read this ?
[16:53] <Wizzup> And I have to go for now... Good luck
[16:53] <amikrop> Where "Removable Drives And Media" has gone?
[16:54] <lithixium> LeoWei, I would guess so, are you using the free no-ip service?
[16:54] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  ame ussye
[16:54] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  same issue
[16:54] <lithixium> This sounds like something the paid for extra service might accomodate
[16:54] <satansaunt> rh
[16:55] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  when I try to startx it says "Primary device is not PCI (EE) no Devices Detected
[16:55] <Shadoweaver> I can't find my other hard drive.  Do I need to mount it manually and set up partitions or is there a way to mount it without reinstalling?
[16:55] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: I'd confirm that you don't already have swap first (or that the amount you have is insufficient)
[16:55] <Shadoweaver> I don't think so.
[16:56] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: you ok starting a terminal window?
[16:56] <Shadoweaver> Yea
[16:56] <Shadoweaver> Hold one
[16:56] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: ok - pull one up and run the following command - free
[16:56] <amikrop> Where "Removable Drives And Media" has gone?
[16:56] <EvilDennisR> I'm trying to install sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-jre with a non-interactive frontend, however it fails to say "YES" to the license agreement and backs out of the installed. I tried aptitude -R -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install with no luck -- Any ideas how to get this installed noninteractivly ?
[16:56] <amikrop> I can't find it and I need it.
[16:57] <SlimeyPete> amikrop: it's still in the Places menu. Well, it should be, anyway.
[16:57] <Shadoweaver> Ok its up.  So type "free" then return?
[16:57] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: yup - you're looking for a line that looks something like: Swap:      3903784          0    3903784
[16:57] <LeoWei> lithixium:  yes..then there is this one thing where i use it to redirect to my ip but it did access my router not my lamp server
[16:57] <amikrop> SlimeyPete: Actually, it always was in System->Preferences but now it's absent.
[16:58] <amikrop> Now = Intrepid
[16:58] <Shadoweaver> IcyPolecat:  Ok it states 361420  total  163460  used and 197160 free
[16:58] <Shadoweaver> That is on the swap
[16:58] <amikrop> Where "Removable Drives And Media" has gone?
[16:59] <Shadoweaver> No shared or otherwise
[16:59] <Aiot> Sathyrion:  when I try to run sudo nvidia-xconfig it says "Validation error"  data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a driver line
[16:59] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: well in that case you already have swap and you're using less than half of it so not sure adding more is going to help massively
[16:59] <lithixium> LeoWei, you should be able to set your router up to forward the traffic onto your server
[16:59] <LeoWei> how to set it to point to my LAMP server in vbox?
[16:59] <lithixium> xbox?
[16:59] <lithixium> vbox?
[16:59] <LeoWei> no
[17:00]  * DarthPidgin pokes amikrop and say's: "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713724"
[17:00] <Shadoweaver> IcyPolecat:  What if I was to mount my other hard drive and set up some more swap.  Would that Help?
[17:00] <LeoWei> virtual box lithixium
[17:00] <lithixium> Is that from Virgin?
[17:00] <lithixium> Oh, I see
[17:00] <Gnea> !vbox
[17:00] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: what's the mem: (RAM) report from the same command?
[17:00] <amikrop> DarthPidgin: ok, thanks
[17:00] <lithixium> Short Answer: Don't Know
[17:00] <DarthPidgin> Google is your buddy
[17:01] <LeoWei> now that i access xxx.xxx.com it will go to my router
[17:01] <LeoWei> then i need to set my router to point to my LAMP server in vbox
[17:01] <Shadoweaver> 123804 total, 121116 used,  32460 is free
[17:01] <LeoWei> but in vbox itself i was using NAT as host interface is not orking
[17:01] <LeoWei> any threads or ideas on this?
[17:02] <hatten> hello, i wanna move a bunch of files in a bunch of different folders to another folder, renaming the files with their original folders names. Is that possible to do in a quick way with the terminal?
[17:03] <tonyyarusso> hatten: you can probably  do it with 'rename'.
[17:03] <hatten> give me the full command
[17:03] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: yeah as I thought - tbh, adding swap is not going to speed anything up as you'll be thrashing the disk most of the time. I've got to go with the previous recomendation and say you need more RAM - 256MB minimum to get a usable Xubuntu system
[17:03] <tonyyarusso> hatten: a little bit of regex and scripting foo will be required.
[17:03] <hatten> oh
[17:03] <tonyyarusso> hatten: I can give you the pointer, but I'm not going to do the work for you and spoonfeed it to you.
[17:04] <hatten> k
[17:04] <Shadoweaver> I was afraid of that.  So, until I get more RAM, I will be pulling my hair out.  Oh well.
[17:04] <hatten> its like 10 pictures in about 100 folders that i wanna view in the order the folders are in
[17:04] <Shadoweaver> I guess I can live with that.
[17:04] <atharh> hey everyone. I can listen to an mms stream by doing "mplayer url". How do I also simultaneously record it? Thanks.
[17:04] <linduxed> is there a way to easily broadcast the music youre listening to in rhythmbox?
[17:04] <Shadoweaver> But I will have to do that.
[17:05] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: I think sometimes people forget that even Xubuntu has a lower threshold below which it's not usable... Shadoweaver there are a couple of things you could try but they'll mean a re-install.
[17:05] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: or just manage your memory differently
[17:05] <wintermu1e> how do I change the ip address in butuntu server (without the graphical tool)
[17:05] <hatten> but the pictures have similar names so if i simply moved the files they wouldn't get in order
[17:05] <Gnea> IcyPolecat: why a reinstall?
[17:05] <trygg> is it possible to bypass a gpg error when you've added a 3rd party software source?
[17:05] <Shadoweaver> Oh..  Thats ok.  I have nothing on here to loose.
[17:06] <IcyPolecat> Gnea: well with that little memory the swap is going to be very active to dropping to ext2 would be a good idea. also he can bump the swap up a bit in the process
[17:06] <IcyPolecat> *so dropping to etx2...
[17:06] <Shadoweaver> Hey can we chat on a private, i guess it is called channels.
[17:06] <Shadoweaver> IcyPolecat
[17:06] <DarthPidgin> atharh, with mencoder. open the terminal and type "man mencoder". mencoder and mplayer pretty much take the same options...
[17:06] <lithixium> trygg, Yse
[17:07] <lithixium> Yes
[17:07] <lithixium> trygg, Just ignore the error
[17:07] <trygg> lithixium: i trust the source so its not a problem, how do i do it? :)
[17:07] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: would rather keep it on channel if you don't mind ... if only cos I'm not sure how to get direct channels in irssi :-)
[17:07] <hatten> is there a picture viewer that i can view a few pictures in about 100 folders without moving them, and watching them in the order.
[17:07] <lithixium> trygg, from the command line, or the gui?
[17:07] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: better to keep it here, in case someone else has a good/better idea
[17:07] <Shadoweaver> oh.  O.k.
[17:08] <trygg> lithixium: from a terminal. oh, i noticed it updated anyway
[17:08] <lithixium> trygg, Yeah, it'll complain, but it won't stop you updating/installing from the source
[17:08] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: you should read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189192
[17:08] <atharh> DarthPidgin: Thanks
[17:08] <Shadoweaver> What is it that you have in mind
[17:08] <Shadoweaver> Ok gnea
[17:08] <trygg> lithixium: perfect, thanks :)
[17:09] <wisnut> anyone know if I can get the ubuntu-desktop-8.04.1 iso somewhere?  I can find 8.04.0, and 8.04.2, but not 8.04.1. . . . .
[17:11] <Shadoweaver> I am going to read this.  BRB Gnea and IcyPolecat
[17:11] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: certainly the tips re filesystem and services
[17:11] <lithixium> wisnut, Why would you need it? A disto upgrade will get you to the latest 8.04 version anyway
[17:11] <DarthPidgin> wisnut, can I ask why you want that specific version?
[17:11] <DarthPidgin> :D
[17:11] <tonyyarusso> wisnut: why would you want to?
[17:11] <DarthPidgin> Great minds think alike...
[17:11] <nx9005> hi i have hp compaq nx9005 notebook. i installed ubuntu 8.10 server edition but i can't use keyboard and mouse help me please
[17:11] <wisnut> good question
[17:12] <jester7> ok, here's a strange one.  I have an 8.04 server that becomes inaccessible over the network after a random amount of time.  you can't ping, ssh, http.  all i have to do to get it accessible again is ping out FROM the server itself.  any idea what's happening?
[17:12] <Shadoweaver> Alright.  BRB
[17:12] <silv3r_m001> hi thre
[17:12] <lithixium> Wiseguy, Is there an answer?
[17:12] <lithixium> wisnut, Is there any answer?
[17:12] <DarthPidgin> I'm curious too
[17:12] <silv3r_m001> I installed tomcat from synaptic ... and now how to use it ....localhost:8080 doesnt work
[17:12] <lithixium> Wiseguy, sorry, not you
[17:12] <Myrtti> wisnut: why do you want specifically 8.04.1 ?
[17:13] <wisnut> had students install a vm using 8.04.1, and do some labs that I tested with 8.04.2, which worked flawlessly.  Students' vm's kept getting a bunch of errors (perl/cpan related) that we couldn't come up with a consistent fix for, so I wanted to test out their images with a fresh 8.04.1 install. . . .
[17:13] <Aiot> Alright All, Thanks for trying to help.  I guess its back to windows till I can get some driver support for this laptop
[17:13] <Shadoweaver> Hey does this information also include xubuntu or are they pretty much the same?
[17:13] <lithixium> nx9005, So you can't login?
[17:13] <wisnut> just hoping to reproduce the problem and repair
[17:13] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: a lot of it is below the window manager so it will be the same
[17:14] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: yeah, it's pretty much all-encompassing
[17:14] <DarthPidgin> wisnut, isn't it easier to downgrade the perl/cpan stuff
[17:14] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: I'd avoid prelink as it will just put extra load on your system. The EXT3 tips will be useful as will the services / daemons
[17:14] <DarthPidgin> + questionmark
[17:15] <Shadoweaver> Uhh, okay.
[17:15] <tonyyarusso> wisnut: You might still be able to find VMware or VirtualBox images somewhere if you can't find an original ISO.
[17:16] <wisnut> DarthPidgin: ran some cpan updates, which worked on about 30% of the computers, the other ones got just a ton of continual errors, and I'm not good enough to troubleshoot the perl stuff well, so just hoping to reproduce and figure it out
[17:16] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: but you should experiment and see what works best for your situation
[17:16] <lithixium> wisnut, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/release/ seems to have 8.04.1
[17:16] <wisnut> tonyyarusso: good idea - i'll look for some, but have a general lack of trust in getting someone else's vm's
[17:17] <tonyyarusso> wisnut: Eh, I don't know that I'd use them for a production server or something, but just to test student work there's no issue.
[17:17] <wisnut> lithixium: Awesome!  I just couldn't find it. . . .thanks!!!!!
[17:17] <DarthPidgin> wisnut, http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=ubuntu+8.04.1
[17:17] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: another thing to consider is memory tuning: http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r21772995-Perfect-linux-memory-management-accuracy~start=20
[17:18] <Shadoweaver> Alright.  Well, what I am going to do is this;  I will reinstall xubuntu and load it on my other hardrive, play around with the different install settings and see what works best.
[17:18] <wisnut> tonyyarusso: yeah, but what updates did they run before packaging the vm. . . .we started from a scratch install, which is what I'd like to reproduce
[17:18] <Shadoweaver> That way I still have one working (to some degree) OS.
[17:18] <Shadoweaver> What do you think?
[17:18] <wisnut> Thanks DarthPidgin!
[17:18] <DarthPidgin> Isohunt is your buddy
[17:18] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: sounds like fun :)
[17:18] <wisnut> I have a new bookmark now!
[17:18] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: sounds good - will fill the time whilst you're waiting for the mailman to deliver your ram chip :-)
[17:19] <Shadoweaver> Thank you guys so much.  I will let you what happens.  May I add the two of you to my friends list?
[17:19] <Gnea> okay
[17:19] <Jason_CO> can someone please tell me what in the hell console-kit-daemon is and much more importantly why it is CONTINUOUSLY eating up 50 to 75% of my processor.  im runnin kubuntu 8.10 with the kde 4.2 betas installed and up to date
[17:19] <Gnea> !language | Jason_CO
[17:20] <Jason_CO> oops - sorry Gnea
[17:20] <Gnea> Jason_CO: there is never a need for that sort of tone in here.
[17:20] <Jason_CO> Gnea:  as i said -- im sorry --
[17:21] <mheath> Does anyone know what the "Broadcom STA Wireless Driver" restricted driver is for? The Hardware Drivers app offers it for my system, but the wireless works out of the box with free drivers.
[17:21] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: if you have such a thing feel free but this a screened session so 90% of the time I'm not actually looking at it!
[17:21] <Gnea> Jason_CO: what does this command return:  which console-kit-daemon
[17:21] <whut> What repository should I add so that adobe-flashprayer package would be contained within it?
[17:21] <Stefcho> i need some help :S
[17:21] <Stefcho> i run ircd and then he stops auto.. :(
[17:21] <Jason_CO> gnea comes back as /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
[17:21] <thrope> hi i've got a usb drive that doesn't automount - im trying to setup a regular mount point, but it doesnt seem to have a uuid and i can't find the sysfs serial to make a udev rule so I'm a bit stuck - can I create a uuid without damaging the partition (fat32)? any other suggestions?
[17:22] <Shadoweaver> Oh.  I thought it was like yahoo where you could add people of intrest to a list to keep in contact.
[17:22] <lithixium> whuffor, flashprayer? :D it's in the standard Ubuntu repos (multiverse I think)
[17:22] <Gnea> Jason_CO: okay, now what does this command give you:  dpkg -S /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
[17:22] <lithixium> whut,  flashprayer? :D it's in the standard Ubuntu repos (multiverse I think)
[17:22] <lithixium> whuffor, sorry, I really need to stop doing this!
[17:22] <Shadoweaver> Sorry, I am still new to this stuff.
[17:22] <DarthPidgin> thrope, did you look in the /dev/disk-by-uuid directory?
[17:22] <Shadoweaver> =)
[17:22] <whut> lithixium: Ah, sory, it's just called flashplayer-nonfree
[17:22] <thrope> DarthPidgin: yes - there isn't a listing there for this partition
[17:22] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: heh, no, this is IRC, which was around years before the concept of IM was born :) you can add us to your /notify list, however
[17:23] <fiftyone> hi im trying to register my nic on irc anyone know how to do it?
[17:23] <DarthPidgin> you can create a uuid as far as i know
[17:23] <thrope> DarthPidgin: and vol_id says unknown volume type
[17:23] <Shadoweaver> oh.  Kinda like the BBS?
[17:23] <tonyyarusso> !register | fiftyone
[17:23] <Scunizi> thrope: you can "find" uuid's with sudo blkid.. sd fo rthe usb drive, since it has the possibility of mounting off different usb ports that might change the uuid. i don't know
[17:23] <DarthPidgin> sounds like a wrong formatted disk
[17:23] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: much more advanced than any bbs chat that existed, but yeah, it evolved around the same time period
[17:23] <Jason_CO> Gnea: consolekit: /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
[17:23] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: IRC - a second to get started ... a lifetime to master :)
[17:23] <thrope> DarthPidgin: it mounts fine manually
[17:24] <Shadoweaver> Sounds like fun!  =)
[17:24] <DarthPidgin> that doesn't say anything about the state of a disk ;)
[17:24] <thrope> Scunizi: ah blkid worked
[17:24] <Gnea> Jason_CO: now, please don't paste it here, because we don't do the whole flooding thing ;)  apt-cache show consolekit
[17:24] <refdef> Hey guys. I just uninstalled firestarter from ubuntu 8.10 and rebooted and now my internet connection doesnt work. I get a valid ip and everything but there is no data transfer. Could anyone pleqse help? Thanks
[17:24] <thrope> DarthPidgin: i guess not... :) but i can read and write stuff (just quick test) - guess there could be problems though
[17:25] <Stefcho> damn i know it no one will help me :/
[17:25] <DarthPidgin> u can use uuidgen to create a new uuid
[17:25] <Jason_CO> Gnea: ok - -did it -- what do you need to see?
[17:25] <Shadoweaver> Before I get started on the poking and prodding of the install, what should I be careful of?
[17:25] <Gnea> Jason_CO: it's not what i need to see, it's what you need to read - it tells you what that daemon is all about :)
[17:26] <Stefcho> :/
[17:26] <thrope> Scunizi: but since it doesn't show up in dev/disk/by-uuid it doesnt mount with uuid in fstab
[17:26] <DarthPidgin> thrope, if that doesn't work you can think about automounting with a label
[17:26] <Jason_CO> Gnea: im far more concerned about why its burning up 50% - 75% of my processor speed
[17:27] <Scunizi> Stefcho: you can repeat your question every few minutes or so.. you've got people waking up and joining from around the world while others are tired and going to bed..
[17:27] <thrope> DarthPidgin: ah that would do - how do I label an fat32 partition?
[17:27] <Stefcho> ok Thanky
[17:27] <Gnea> Jason_CO: well, take a look at what it's designed to do. now, take a look at your process list in realtime with the top command
[17:27] <Stefcho> i run ircd and between 10 minutes he stops auto can anyone help me ?
[17:27] <Scunizi> thrope: usb is handled differently .. not directly in fstab.. unless you're dealing with a vm in virtualbox
[17:28] <refdef> Any help?
[17:28] <refdef> Please i just uninstalled firestarter and rebooted and now my internet connection does not work anymore
[17:28] <whut> I have a FAT32 flash card with a damaged disk map, what can I restore/fix it with?
[17:28] <DarthPidgin> thrope, there is an mtools package for that
[17:28] <Stefcho> i run ircd and between 10 minutes he stops auto can anyone help me ?
[17:28] <Gnea> whut: testdisk
[17:28] <Shadoweaver> Gnea: is there anything that I need to be careful with while playing with the different setting in the installation?
[17:28] <thrope> Scunizi: not in this case - it doesnt auto mount or anything, so i just thought id put in fstab
[17:28] <Stefcho> i run ircd and between 10 minutes he stops auto can anyone help me ?
[17:28] <Scunizi> Stefcho: what you wrote doesn't make any sense.. however if you need ircd assistance that's not directly ubuntu related.. might try in ##linux
[17:29] <bpatterson_> I'm running nfs-user-server in Ubuntu 8.10 (i386) and trying to mount a share on an ubuntu 8.04 (x64) server.   I get an access denied error.  Relevant files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117353/
[17:29] <Jason_CO> Gnea: my computer has only one user -- me
[17:29] <Stefcho> Scunizi its from ubuntu
[17:29] <DarthPidgin> thrope, I warn you, the mtools package is probably the worst thing the ubuntu community ever faced... But it will work... eventually.
[17:29] <Scunizi> thrope: have you tried a different usb port.. perhaps one without a hub on it if that's what it's plugged into now.
[17:29] <Stefcho> cuz when i look at the System log
[17:29] <Stefcho> there is error from the ubuntu
[17:29] <erUSUL> !info tstdisk | whut
[17:29] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | whut
[17:29] <SAnDY_COOl_> hi
[17:30] <SAnDY_COOl_> raj
[17:30] <whut> Thanks!
[17:30] <rw> Hi, I'm installing an ubuntu command line install and during installation it asks for the ubuntu intrepid cd. I can't open the cd rom drive to put it in there. What going on?
[17:30] <SAnDY_COOl_> its wa too complicated da
[17:30] <Gnea> Jason_CO: but perhaps there's a rogue process that's causing problems
[17:30] <platypus_> i'm having an issue in ubuntu i haven't come across before, dual monitors using the proprietary nvidia driver, one monitor will dim randomly and then return to normal
[17:30] <Jason_CO> Gnea: ok -   thanks i'll start digging
[17:30] <Scunizi> Stefcho: still .. to get help on a package and how it works or configuration you're at the mercey of finding someone that has done it before.. you might have a better chance at this time period to try ##linux
[17:31] <Shadoweaver> Gnea
[17:31] <Stefcho> Scunizi ok dude thank u :)
[17:31] <Shadoweaver> Did you see my last
[17:32] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: basically take your time and try not to get discouraged if you lock your system up once or twice
[17:32] <platypus_> not sure if thats a question for the nvidia folks or something going on with acpid
[17:32] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: not really - obviously make sure you're working on the right disk if you're partitioning other than that make sure you patience, and a clock - tweaking can seriously eat into your day
[17:32] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: but that's just a worst-case thing, I doubt that you'll have that problem :)
[17:33] <Shadoweaver> How do I know which hard drive to use so I don't mess up this one?
[17:33] <refdef> Please! I uninstalled firestarter and rebooted my pc and now my internet connection doesnt work. Cqn anyone hel p please? Hanks
[17:33] <Gnea> platypus_: odd, sounds like the monitor is on the fritz
[17:33] <platypus_> Gnea, I suspected the same
[17:33] <platypus_> however ive tried a few monitors
[17:33] <platypus_> and it happens to all of them
[17:33] <Gnea> o.O
[17:33] <platypus_> and, it happens to the left or right one
[17:33] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: well one will have the root ext3 patitions and swap already laid out. the other will have whatever was on it before. FAT or NTFS
[17:33] <rraj_be> SAnDY_COOl
[17:33] <platypus_> not just one
[17:33] <rraj_be> i am here
[17:34] <platypus_> if it was just one side i would have thought similar but its not
[17:34] <rraj_be> u can post ur doubts SAnDY_COOl
[17:34] <Shadoweaver> I deleted the partitions on the other drive
[17:34] <Scunizi> platypus_: which driver are you using?
[17:34] <Shadoweaver> How do I find the Hard Drive names?
[17:34] <platypus_> the nvidia linux driver for quadro cards
[17:34] <platypus_> let me get the specific revision
[17:34] <Scunizi> platypus_: which version number
[17:34] <Shadoweaver> That way I don't have to guess.
[17:34] <Gnea> Shadoweaver: they aren't 'named', but mapped in /etc/fstab
[17:34] <Gnea> !fstab
[17:34] <wikkedfin> Does ubuntu have any app to make say birthday cards?
[17:34] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: ok so that's the empty one! Will be identified by either hdd# or sda# where # is the disk number and provided you don't physically disconnect them thos number shouldn't change
[17:35] <Stefcho> i run ircd and between 10 minutes he stops auto can anyone help me ?
[17:35] <Shadoweaver> Yea, I got that.  When in installation mode, How will I tell the difference?
[17:36] <Shadoweaver> If you told me before I am sorry.
[17:36] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: if you go for custom partition the disks will be refferred to by their ID
[17:36] <platypus_> Scunizi, - NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22
[17:36] <whut> How can I upgrade to KDE 4.2/OpenOffice.org 3 using only bash? (using ssh to work this one)
[17:36] <Scunizi> platypus_: you installed that one yourself .. right?
[17:36] <platypus_> yes
[17:36] <Shadoweaver> Oh.  I get thanks.
[17:37] <LaGeek> whut ask #kubuntu
[17:37] <refdef> Please
[17:37] <Shadoweaver> When in terminal, what command do you I use to see the ID for the one I am on now?
[17:37] <Scunizi> platypus_: you might download the latest which I think is 180.29.. when you install it it will automatically uninstall the other.. remember you have to do it from a TTY without gdm running.
[17:37] <platypus_> right
[17:37] <platypus_> is this a known issue with that release?
[17:38] <platypus_> there's nothing in the change log
[17:38] <platypus_> and it was released in late january
[17:38] <Scunizi> platypus_: not really sure.. but I know there were major strides on my machine between x.11 and x.22 .. I'm installing .29 today
[17:38] <platypus_> ah
[17:38] <platypus_> it was just released yesterday
[17:38] <jester7> ok, here's a strange one.  I have an 8.04 server that becomes inaccessible over the network after a random amount of time.  you can't ping, ssh, http.  all i have to do to get it accessible again is ping out FROM the server itself.  any idea what's happening?
[17:39] <Shadoweaver> anyone?
[17:39] <lithixium> whut, do you have the right repos enabled?
[17:39] <sathyrion> wifi?
[17:39] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: erm ... hang on
[17:39] <LeoWei> how to sudo remove?
[17:39] <jester7> sathyrion: is that to me?
[17:39] <Shadoweaver> ok
[17:39] <sathyrion> yes
[17:40] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: you can try df - should give you the disk name at the top
[17:40] <jester7> sathyrion: no, its not wifi.
[17:40] <Shadoweaver> let me try it.  Hold on.
[17:40] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: something like /dev/hdd1
[17:40] <cambazz> hello. in the ubuntu server edition, how do I pick which services start and which services does not
[17:40] <jester7> another odd thing is i'm running vmware server on it, and the Windows2000 VM does not become inaccessible...
[17:41] <whut> lithixium: I tried to enable medibuntu, but it failed with E: Couldn't find package medibuntu-keyring
[17:41] <Shadoweaver> sda1 got it!  Thanks.  I'll be back.  Will you be here in about a hour or two?
[17:41] <Doppp> anyone has a happy hacking keyboard?
[17:41] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: might be - just shout - if not I'm sure others will be happy to help if you ask nicely :)
[17:42] <lithixium> Doppp, Are they still available?
[17:42] <Shadoweaver> Cool.  Thank you so much for your help with my silly questions.
[17:42] <Doppp> i think so
[17:42] <lithixium> whut, Did you follow the wiki instructions?
[17:42] <IcyPolecat> Shadoweaver: np
[17:42] <Shadoweaver> Latter.
[17:42] <whut> lithixium: Yes, help.ubuntu.com
[17:42] <xTheGoat121x> Greetings everyone... I've got an extremely odd problem.  My laptop has no internet, and when I go to check the wireless settings, I instead get a white web page in FF that says "It works!"
[17:42] <SAnDY_COOl> hi eveyone
[17:42] <lithixium> whut, For intrepid: execute: "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[17:43] <SAnDY_COOl> i donno much abt ubuntu
[17:43] <lithixium> whut, then: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update"
[17:43] <bpatterson_> I'm running nfs-user-server in Ubuntu 8.10 (i386) and trying to mount a share on an ubuntu 8.04 (x64) server.   I get an access denied error.  Relevant files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117353/
[17:44] <whut> lithixium: Thanks, I forgot to include output . =(
[17:44] <whut> lithixium: OO3 should be there?
[17:44] <cambazz> I found how to remove a service, but is there something like rc-status? a command that shows all loaded services/daemons?
[17:44] <lithixium> whut, no, neither OOo 3 or KDE 4 are there
[17:44] <lithixium> whut, hold on, I'll find the repos
[17:45] <dusko> Hello guys, I have just installed unbuntu 8.10,  and have Never used it before. I have downloaded a program called hellanzb and "installed it" but I can`t find it. I am used to vista and exe files... :) can some one help???
[17:46] <zipper> On a fresh install i'm having trouble installing the ATI restricted drivers. The download never gets further than 0%, no errors given. The restricted drivers for b43 installed without problems tho. Any ideas?
[17:46] <Myrth> is there a way to make gnome terminal automatically copy mouse selection?
[17:46] <innociv> how do i view how much disk space is used by folder, but not subfolders?
[17:46] <lithixium> whut, OOo3 repo instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=987181
[17:47] <whut> lithixium: Thanks a lot, as for KDE4.2, I've been already advised at #kubuntu
[17:47] <zipper> innociv: there is an app called baeboa or something like that. Try google for "linux disk usage analyser"
[17:47] <lithixium> whut, OK, Cool
[17:47] <innociv> zipper, that works via console?
[17:47] <nomike> hi
[17:47] <nomike> where do I set the global proxy settings if I have no X ?
[17:48] <dusko> Hello guys, I have just installed unbuntu 8.10,  and have Never used it before. I have downloaded a program called hellanzb and "installed it" but I can`t find it. I am used to vista and exe files... :) can some one help??? PLEASE!!!
[17:48] <zipper> innociv: There is a gui, but i *think* there is a console version as well. Not sure, never used it myself
[17:48] <skeebo> Does anyone know if it is safe to defrag my FAT32 external drive on my Windows XP VM? I want to make sure before I do it. Any help is much appreciated, thanks.
[17:48] <platypus_> Scunizi, I updated the driver, we'll see if that works
[17:48] <platypus_> thanks for the heads up on the new revision
[17:49] <platypus_> looks like there's quite a bit of bug fixes in the changelog though none that apply to my specific problem
[17:49] <dusko> I have did`t in vista, no problem
[17:49] <zipper> innociv: if you haven't tried already, there might be an argument to 'du' to show only folders without subfolders
[17:49] <innociv> ahh yeah du that's it
[17:49] <skeebo> or is there an appropriate channel to ask my question besides here?
[17:49] <Pici> dusko: That is a command line interface application. Just run hellanzb from a terminal.
[17:49] <platypus_> skeebo, what's the question
[17:50] <skeebo>  Does anyone know if it is safe to defrag my FAT32 external drive on my Windows XP VM? I want to make sure before I do it. Any help is much appreciated, thanks.
[17:50] <platypus_> what do you want to defrag it for?
[17:50] <zipper> On a fresh install i'm having trouble installing the ATI restricted drivers. The download never gets further than 0%, no errors given. The restricted drivers for b43 installed without problems tho. Any ideas?
[17:50] <hbit> Hello guys, I compiled an application and now there's a new version wich I want to upgrade to. Should I uninstall the old version first? if so how? is there a way to just upgrade the new code?
[17:50] <platypus_> zipper, are you behind a proxy?
[17:51] <skeebo> because its a FAT32 FS on my external drive, and I'm constantly adding and moving large files
[17:51] <skeebo> platypus_:
[17:51] <zipper> platypus_: no
[17:51] <platypus_> sorry skeebo i think it'd be ok but im not a windows guy so i hesitate to give bad advice
[17:51] <c0p3rn1c> does anyone know a great tool to create business diagrams ?
[17:51] <platypus_> zipper, have you tried adding different mirrors to your apt sources
[17:51] <dusko> oki, I`am new :) I don`t know what to write :)
[17:51] <zcat[1]> c0p3rn1c, dia ?
[17:52] <platypus_> zipper, are you using a gui package manager or the cli
[17:52] <zcat[1]> !info dia
[17:52] <skeebo> platypus_: dont like windows myself, just have it running on a virtual machine and was hoping its safe to defrag external drives mounted to it is all
[17:52] <skeebo> ty though
[17:52] <zipper> platypus_: the restricted (multiverse,universe?) repos should be enabled
[17:52] <platypus_> zipper, perhaps the repo you're using is having an issue
[17:53] <zipper> platypus_: i'm using the hardware driver gui thingie. Couldn't figure out which package its trying to fetch
[17:53] <zipper> if you know, i might get a proper error message from the cli
[17:54] <Scunizi> platypus_: I just installed the latest driver and it's much snappyier than the .22 driver
[17:54] <platypus_> zipper, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Instructions%20for%20Ubuntu%208.04%20(Hardy)%20with%20ATi%208.443.1-1%20and%20above%20binary%20drivers
[17:54] <platypus_> try that
[17:54] <platypus_> its a manual way outside the repo
[17:54] <platypus_> it might help you narrow down your problem
[17:55] <platypus_> Scunizi, it seems to draw windows much better, you are correct
[17:55] <bpatterson_> I'm running nfs-user-server in Ubuntu 8.10 (i386) and trying to mount a share on an ubuntu 8.04 (x64) server.   I get an access denied error.  Relevant files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117353/
[17:55] <platypus_> there is not as much of a lag when dragging windows either
[17:55] <zcat[1]> Just a quick question about deb packages (I know, I should probably research this but it's only a quick question) .. they contain 'pre-install/post-install' scripts, right? And they're run as root. If someone were to make a 'malicious' package and convince another user to install it, is there anything in the package management that prevents these scripts from doing 'malicious' actions?
[17:55] <alesan> hi where can I ask about the Ubuntu for ARM?
[17:56] <uni4dfx> why doesn't this command execute if i put it in /etc/rc.local:     echo -en "\xf0\x00\x20\x21\x61\x00\x00\x00\x7f\x00\xf7" > /dev/snd/midiC0D1
[17:56] <Scunizi> platypus_: that's what I notice,  for me almost doubled the screen writes.. performance now is close to what I expect on a mid level dual core w/ 4 gigs of ram
[17:56] <mgolisch> zcat[1]: dont think so
[17:56] <platypus_> Scunizi, i'm just on this default issued craptacular work workstation and it's noticeably better, i hate this video card too
[17:56] <mgolisch> zcat[1]: basicaly those are just shellscripts
[17:57] <Scunizi> zcat[1]: nope.. because you authorized it with sudo
[17:57] <zipper> platypus_: i went to that guide already, and it doesnt really explain which package the hardware driver tool is trying to get. I'd prefer to use the repos for this as i dont need great performance or bleeding edge functionality
[17:57] <fomder> Hi everyone. Im having a lot of trouble. I use ubuntu 8.10 and just uninstalled firestarter firewall and then reboot my pc. Now my ineternet connection doesnt work. ifconfig shows i have a valid ip but no data transfer works, firefox, im applications, voip apps, etc. Could anyone please help ? thanks
[17:57] <Scunizi> platypus_: which card do you have?
[17:57] <platypus_> zipper, well unfortunately the gui isnt showing you what is going wrong
[17:58] <platypus_> Scunizi, some nvidia quadro fx series with the proprietary dongle that has two monitor outs
[17:58] <mgolisch> fomder: does iptables --list output anything interesting?
[17:59] <whut> I was installing a package using sudo apt-get install <name>, but the downloading was interrupted. Now, every time I try to do sudo apt-get install <name>, it uses that faulty .deb package. How can I force apt-get to re-download the package?
[17:59] <platypus_> zipper, what kind of card do you get
[17:59] <platypus_> get = have
[17:59] <uni4dfx> anyone know why echo commands won't execute from rc.local ?
[17:59] <JoelDrapper> Hey, Can someone help me with a wireless problem?
[17:59] <Scunizi> platypus_: ah.. I have a board with the nvidia 8200 chipset and onboard video.. with 177 driver I could have beat screen writes with a 7 year old celeron, 180.11 got better and .22 better still.. .29 well you see the difference.  well worth installing.
[17:59] <fomder> mgolische, ill paste it somewhere, thanks
[17:59] <platypus_> cool
[18:00] <zipper> platypus_: radeon 200M, laptop card
[18:00] <mgolisch> whut: delete it from the package download cache.. should be /var/cache/apt/something
[18:00] <JoelDrapper> I'm very new to ubuntu, I've installed the hardware drivers, but it keeps asking me for a password, and then not accepting it.
[18:00] <mgolisch> JoelDrapper: what password?
[18:00] <JoelDrapper> for the wireless network
[18:01] <JoelDrapper> Even after I disabled the wep password on the network
[18:01] <mgolisch> JoelDrapper: probably you entered it wrong or selected the wrong encryption/key type
[18:01] <fomder> mgolisch http://pastebin.com/d355bdbb5
[18:01] <absynth> whut: try #apt-get -f install     this should fix brocken packages and stuff
[18:01] <platypus_> zipper, what ati card do you have
[18:01] <DarthPidgin> JoelDrapper,  you can add yourt username to the sudoers list when you log in as root
[18:01] <mgolisch> fomder: try sudo iptables -F and see if iptables --list looks different after that
[18:02] <mgolisch> fomder: id it does try if your internets works then
[18:02] <zipper> platypus_: a radeon 200M, a laptop card
[18:02] <whut> absynth: Thanks.
[18:03] <JoelDrapper> Why would it still ask for a password even if there wasn't one?
[18:03] <JoelDrapper> And the light won't turn on at the front of my computer.
[18:03] <mgolisch> JoelDrapper: it probably didnt detect that change yet
[18:03] <tARrAScH> Hello, Is there any good reason that the latest verson of OO.org isn't in the repos? I can understand we waited for 3.0.1. But what's the delay now? Is it a good idea to upgrade manually?
[18:03] <JoelDrapper> I've restarted, and tried this several times
[18:03] <PMEDUB> Need Ndiswrapper help. can anyone help me find the windows driver for my card?  I am going crazy ;(
[18:03] <mgolisch> PMEDUB: look at their wiki
[18:04] <fomder> mgolisch, cleared ip tables, still no luck though
[18:04] <lithixium> tARrAScH, I doubt there are any *good* reasons
[18:04] <fomder> is a reboot necessary mgolisch
[18:04] <uni4dfx> right, i'll just go spam the forum then
[18:04] <mgolisch> JoelDrapper: see if networkmanager saved a profile for that network and delete it
[18:04] <mgolisch> fomder: what doesnt work?
[18:05] <platypus_> zipper_, apparently there is a big following on the net for support for the 200m
[18:05] <mgolisch> fomder: check if its name resolution or realy the connections beeing blocked
[18:05] <JoelDrapper> I went into the wireless troubleshooting guide in the help files, and when I do this command, sudo lshw -C network, it doesn't show any status of the wireless driver.
[18:05] <tARrAScH> lithixium: Ok, it's both upparts and downparts. But do you think the repos will be updated soon anyway?
[18:05] <mib> anyone can suggest me a good messenger which i could use for chatting+viewing webcam + sending file on ubuntu
[18:05] <platypus_> as the only people who have gotten it to work are using non supported drivers for that card
[18:05] <fomder> mgolisch my internet.. Sorry i didnt understand what i should do /check next?
[18:05] <zipper_> platypus_: sorry bout that, got disconnected. Wierd, b43 was pretty stable under arch. Its a radeon 200m.
[18:05] <JoelDrapper> mgolisch: I'll try that
[18:05] <DarthPidgin> mib, pidgin!
[18:05] <mib> DarthPidgin
[18:06] <mib> i used pidgin but it can only support chatting at the moment
[18:06] <zipper_> platypus_: cool, thats good to know. I'll try another repo first, might be as simple as the repo being offline (as you said earlier)
[18:06] <JoelDrapper> I can't find the network manager now
[18:06] <JoelDrapper> is there a way to run it again?
[18:06] <lithixium> tARrAScH, It'll probably go into backports eventually, but I would say it's low priority
[18:06] <i0n_696> Has anyone messed with the Asus Netbooks?
[18:06] <DarthPidgin> mib, cam sorry didn't read well. Euh... don't really dare to say it here... skype
[18:06] <mgolisch> fomder: try ping google.com, does it resolve to an ip address? if not try telnet 209.85.171.100 80 and see if that connects
[18:06] <alexxandros> heloo
[18:06] <lithixium> especially when there's a PPA available with the packages in
[18:07] <platypus_> zipper_, you might read this too
[18:07] <unanxbt> The volume in ubuntu 8.10 is too low, is this bug or something else
[18:07] <tARrAScH> lithixium: ok thanks, I'll do it manually then. Thank you :)
[18:07] <platypus_> http://www.ensode.net/zv6015uslinux.html
[18:07] <dayo2> i am so over these f#cking sound issues, maaaaan
[18:07] <mib> because im trying to find a messenger which can support features supported in windows
[18:07] <alexxandros> anyone can provide me with a program to convert m4a to mp3??????????????/
[18:07] <JoelDrapper> mgolisch: The network manager has closed for some reason. How do I run it again?
[18:07] <DarthPidgin> i0n_696, yes asus
[18:07] <spych3r> how do i upgrade to kde 4.2 from kde 4.1 in ubuntu?
[18:07] <JesperHa> Hello, how do I find out which packages I have upgrades today? The system froze up while upgrading some packages and now the network manager wont show up because of missing default settings.
[18:08] <lithixium> spych3r, Add the KDE repo and dist-upgrade
[18:08] <JoelDrapper> brb
[18:08] <dayo2> i play some music on rhythmbox and once i stop. i lose all sound, and rhythmbox crashes >.<
[18:08]  * JoelDrapper restarting
[18:08] <DarthPidgin> mib, you can try Skype
[18:08] <OriWB_> absynth: hey, could you help me finish with the internet connection?
[18:08] <zipper_> platypus_: thanks, i'll have a look
[18:08] <mib> Skype is only for Skype ..not supported if i wanted to talk to person who use MSN/Yahooo
[18:08] <alexxandros> anyone can help me?
[18:09] <DarthPidgin> mib, no you're right
[18:09] <mib> ?
[18:09] <unanxbt> The volume in ubuntu 8.10 is too low, is this bug or something else?
[18:09]  * JoelDrapper is back!
[18:09] <DarthPidgin> mib, gaim?
[18:10] <mib> gaim?
[18:10] <mib> sure?
[18:10] <JesperHa> unanxbt, fiddle with the mixers
[18:10] <DarthPidgin> mib, i mean the older versions
[18:10] <JoelDrapper> Why would the wireless light on the front of my laptop not go on?
[18:10] <mib> which version ?
[18:10] <kinley> alexcandros: faad -o - input.m4a | lame - output.mp3
[18:10] <zipper_> platypus_: hmm. I dont believe the problem is with hardware support as i had it running in 8.04 with the driver in the repo, and in arch linux with the binary blob from ati.com
[18:10] <platypus_> ah
[18:11] <platypus_> these posts are older so perhaps it has been fixed
[18:11] <alexxandros> what do u mean?? sry..
[18:11] <platypus_> this was back with FC4/5 era
[18:11] <zipper_> dunno if thats a long time agro, never tried fedora =)
[18:11] <DarthPidgin> I don't know. It's a long time ago since iI used it, and I don't know what was supported
[18:11] <platypus_> yeah it is awhile ago :P
[18:12] <platypus_> off for now, good luck zipper_
[18:12] <mib> so you mean it supported all i mentioned
[18:12] <kinley> alexxandros: for more than one file : use in terminal: for file in *.m4a; do faad -o - "$file" | lame -V2 - "$(basename "$file" .m4a).mp3"; rm "$file"; done
[18:13] <unanxbt> JesperHa, mixers are at their top!
[18:13] <DarthPidgin> mib, I don't remember the cam
[18:13] <mib> oh
[18:13] <mgolisch> fomder: still there?
[18:14] <JesperHa> unanxbt, ok
[18:14] <kinley> alexxandros: if you want to keep yout mp4 files use : alexxandros: for more than one file : use in terminal: for file in *.m4a; do faad -o - "$file" | lame -V2 - "$(basename "$file" .m4a).mp3";  done
[18:16] <DarthPidgin> mib, you can try a couple of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XMPP_client_software. that's as far as I can help
[18:17] <jomder> Hi everyone. Im having some huge problems. I just uninstalled firestarter firewall and then reboot my 8.10 pc. now my internet connection does not work. ifconfig shows i have a valid ip but nothing internet related works. What can i do Thanks.
[18:17] <Myrtti> jomder: firestarter is a frontend to iptables
[18:17] <sathyrion> jomder, remove firestarter :)
[18:17] <Myrtti> jomder: check what rules firestarter left behind
[18:18] <jomder> myrtii how can i do that ? im pretty sure i deleted my iptables...
[18:18] <Myrtti> jomder: you mean you deleted your iptables rules?
[18:18] <jomder> myrtti i believe i did so manual, yes
[18:18] <DarthPidgin> jomder, remove firestarter install guarddog :)
[18:19] <Myrtti> jomder: check what output you get when you do "sudo iptables -L"
[18:19] <Anonymous1> I have a GTX 260 on ubuntu 8.10 with a westinghouse monitor, and the monitor's colours are horrendous, accompanied by a crackling noise. This only occurs with the proprietary driver. Anyone know what to do?
[18:19] <jomder> myrtii thanks, ill post in on pastebin
[18:20] <mib> one more quesion..how can i mount my hard disk space to a drive permanently
[18:20] <sathyrion> mib, add it in fstab
[18:20] <mib> i remember i did mount before but when i restart my pc, the mount disapeared
[18:20] <jomder> myrtii could you take a look please ? http://pastebin.com/d34399228
[18:20] <absynth> mib: edit /etc/fstab
[18:20] <Anonymous1> Does anyone know a possible solution?
[18:20] <j03lar50n> how do i enable compositing or Desktop Effects? trying to install a plugin for GNOME Do
[18:20] <sap2> hi, if i want to securely wipe/format a disk after booting from CD (live session) what's the best tool? wipe?
[18:20] <dayo2> how to i completely purge pulseaudio from my 8.04?
[18:20] <Anonymous1> sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[18:21] <Anonymous1> or sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio
[18:21] <bainco> ciao
[18:21] <dayo2> Anonymous1: and i'll still have sound,right?
[18:21] <Anonymous1> If you change your settings to alsa
[18:21] <jomder> myrttii could you take a look please ? http://pastebin.com/d34399228 i think i spelled your nick wrong last time
[18:21] <ghaith> hey, i'm looking for a multiwan routing solution with some control over the information, like i have one connection that should only be used for a specific application, while the other connection is used for browsing and as backup, should be implemented i think, but i'm not sure where to look/looking for a fast advice
[18:21] <Anonymous1> Wall of text.
[18:21] <Myrtti> jomder: the page loads really slowly
[18:21] <mib> how should i add the particular drive?
[18:22] <arvind_khadri> dayo2: you wont be able to do it... i guess... as pulseaudio is linked with ubuntu-desktop
[18:22] <Anonymous1> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[18:22] <Anonymous1> Won't remove everything
[18:22] <dayo2> arvind_khadri, Anonymous1: so pulseaudio would still be there?
[18:23] <Anonymous1> No
[18:23] <Anonymous1> removing pulseaudio will remove ubuntu-desktop although
[18:23] <jussel> Good evening guys.
[18:23] <jussel> I got a Question again,
[18:23] <Anonymous1> But it's just a metapackage for installing the complete gnome suite
[18:23] <jussel> I was here yesterday / 2 days ago about my sound. It works now, but only through my Laptop boxes, not through a headphone.
[18:24] <ailean> hi, i can't get my software sources to appear in synaptic. can someone help?
[18:24] <dayo2> hmm
[18:25] <diginux> ailean: have you checked to see if the headphone jack is muted? by default i think it is
[18:25] <Anonymous1> just open your volume control and check off all options in preferences
[18:25] <Anonymous1> One should enable headphone volume
[18:26] <diginux> ailean: if you open a terminal, type alsamixer, then scroll left and right with the arrow keys, look for the output labeled headphone, if it has MM at the bottom of it, that means its muted, to unmute press m
[18:26] <tom___> Are there any torrent files for the sources of the ISOs? (Without these seeders are infringing on the GPL).
[18:26] <Anonymous1> And then there's alsamixer
[18:26] <jussel> Ubuntu version: 8.04 Desktop // Soundcard: Realtek ALC660-VD
[18:26] <ailean> diginux, wrong guy
[18:26] <anthiste> hey guys i could really do with some help on wubi ^_^
[18:26] <diginux> tom___: how do you figure?
[18:26] <danbhfive> !ot | tom___
[18:26] <tom___> danbhfive: Ah, sorry.
[18:26] <lore20> hello
[18:27] <tom___> danbhfive: Well, it sort of is support.
[18:27] <Anonymous1> I have a GTX 260 on ubuntu 8.10 with a westinghouse monitor, and the monitor's colours are horrendous, accompanied by a crackling noise. This only occurs with the proprietary driver. Anyone know what to do?
[18:27] <lore20> how to use a bluetooth headphone with intrepid?
[18:27] <tom___> diginux: Distributed binaries without distributing the source is infringing GPL right?
[18:27] <diginux> tom___: as long as the source is available it is ok
[18:27] <tom___> diginux: And, say, 8.04-amd64-desktop.iso contains binaries.
[18:27] <jussel> My soundcard isn't working as I want to. I do have sound out my Laptop boxes, but not through my Headphone. Enabled everything on the mixer... Ubuntu version: 8.04 Desktop // Soundcard: Realtek ALC660-VD     -- Anyone knows the solution?
[18:27] <anthiste> wow how many idlers are there (O.o)
[18:28] <ailean> hi, i can't get my software sources to appear in synaptic. can someone help?
[18:28] <Anonymous1> Did you try looking through volume preferences?
[18:28] <tom___> diginux: I think they have to be equally accessible, meaning there has to be a source torrent. I'm guessing Cononical lawyers have considered this though.
[18:28] <mib> how could i check the path of the drive tht i want to mount ?
[18:28] <Anonymous1> ailean: try a different server in Administration/Software Sources
[18:28] <danbhfive> tom___: come on, no it isn't.  If you want the source, just get it with apt-source.  If you want to speculate about legal issues, you should take it to offtopic
[18:28] <Anonymous1> I use rafal
[18:28] <ailean> Anonymous1, it won't load
[18:29] <ge0rge007> hello!
[18:29] <ailean> Anonymous1, thatś what i want to do
[18:29] <anthiste> bleh any1 here got a moment
[18:29] <Anonymous1> And you can't?
[18:29] <diginux> tom___: all canonical has to do is have a written offer that they will make the source code available on a cd for a fee that covers the distribution costs
[18:29] <Anonymous1> Try running gksudo software-sources in terminal
[18:29] <arvind_khadri> !ask | anthiste
[18:29] <Anonymous1> I think that's the command, at work right now
[18:29] <jussel> Anonymous1: Yep, I did.
[18:30] <mib> how can i check the partition that i wanted to mount ?
[18:30] <anthiste> thanks :) do you know how to get wubi going with vista
[18:30] <wisnut> lithixium: thx again - got my 8.04.1 with matching md5's - have a fantastic day!
[18:30] <Anonymous1> Hm, what's the output jussel
[18:30] <arvind_khadri> !wubi | anthiste
[18:30] <tom___> diginux: I don't think that's true. And even if it is, then it still infringes on the privacy. People may not want to give their address.
[18:30] <lithixium> wisnut, no probs, happy bug hunting :D
[18:30] <jussel> Anonymous1: Just a normal one, like a headphone one. Don't know the exact name
[18:30] <ge0rge007> i have problems with  the ati driver after i have installed i got an erro about that file:amdpcsdb.default
[18:30] <ge0rge007> could anyone help me?
[18:31] <Anonymous1> hm, interestign
[18:31] <ailean> Anonymous1, it failed without a message
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> mib sudo fdisk -l lists all the drives
[18:31] <anthiste> with vista my wubi installed properly but on first boot it shows the progress bar then dumps me in busybox
[18:31] <diginux> tom___: you talking about gplv2 or v3?
[18:31] <taz> hello .....anyone know how to setup with crossloop  with wine for ubuntu ??
[18:32] <Spellweaver> Try updating your alsa driver
[18:32] <jussel> Spellweaved, got any idea about the sound-problem? =)
[18:32] <Spellweaver> http://www.alsa-project.org
[18:32] <intmed> any good download manager, it should itegrate with Firefox 3
[18:32] <tom___> diginux: GPLv2, let's say.
[18:32] <Spellweaver> Do you have experience compiling?
[18:32] <diginux> tom___: then you are right
[18:32] <arvind_khadri> !appdb > taz
[18:32] <mib> anyne could help me how to check the partition that i want to mount?
[18:32] <diginux> tom___: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#BitTorrent
[18:33] <neoblackdragon> salve a tutti? ho un problemino posso?
[18:33] <dayo2> Spellweaver: i've disabled pulseaudio, rather than installing. one things i've noticed, and reproduced partially just now, was this: after using rhythmbox, when i come back out of Suspend, rbox crashes
[18:33] <Jussel> Not really, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> mib... what do you want to do?
[18:33] <Jussel> Since Spellweaver left, here my question again.
[18:33] <neoblackdragon> italian?
[18:33] <Jussel> My soundcard isn't working as I want to. I do have sound out my Laptop boxes, but not through my Headphone. Enabled everything on the mixer... Ubuntu version: 8.04 Desktop // Soundcard: Realtek ALC660-VD     -- Anyone knows the solution?
[18:33] <dayo2> Spellweaver: as a matter of fact *all* sound is gone. force-quitting rbox and restarting doesn't help.
[18:33] <wikkedfin> Does any know if Ubuntu comes with an App to make Greeting Cards?
[18:34] <lore20> neoblackdragon: ==> #ubuntu-it
[18:34] <mib> arvind, i have an extra partition to be mounted as a drive .previously i did edit the fstab but upon restarting my pc, i couldnt access to that drive.
[18:34] <Jussel> Anyone? =l
[18:34] <mib> now i cant recall how to check the exact path of the partition that i wanted to mount to
[18:34] <dayo2> Spellweaver: but now after disabling pulse and setting to alsa, coming back from Suspend still finds a crashed rbox, but restarting rbox helps, and other sounds are still available.
[18:34] <dayo2> wikkedfin: gimp
[18:34] <taz> ???
[18:34] <whut> apt-get install keeps using the package that was only partially downloaded. =(
[18:35] <arvind_khadri> whut: sudo apt-get install -f
[18:35] <arvind_khadri> !appdb | taz
[18:35] <mustangg> I was (still :) ) wondering if anyone could tell me from where does the installer grab the hostname for the network configuration stage of install.
[18:35] <jiffe92> I have a program I want to make a package of, it is a commercial program that has an install process, I'll need to be able to track what files are created, anyone know a good way to do this?
[18:36] <Jussel> My soundcard isn't working as I want to. I do have sound out my Laptop boxes, but not through my Headphone. Enabled everything on the mixer... Ubuntu version: 8.04 Desktop // Soundcard: Realtek ALC660-VD     -- Anyone knows the solution?
[18:36] <wikkedfin> hehe
[18:36] <diginux> Jussel: did the headphones work before?
[18:36] <anouar_> hello
[18:36] <jiffe92> this isn't a package for distribution, just ease of installation
[18:36] <ge0rge007> is there any way to solve the problem with amdpcsdb.default?
[18:36] <lithixium> whut, do an apt-get clean then dist-upgrade
[18:36] <arvind_khadri> !pm | taz
[18:36] <tom___> diginux: Ah okay, thanks. :)
[18:36] <arvind_khadri> !pm | mib
[18:36] <Jussel> Diginux: Not on Ubuntu, but they do on my iPod touch
[18:36] <lithixium> whut, apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[18:37] <anouar_> hello
[18:37] <naxa> i am trying to install hungarian language files but when generating hu_HU.UTF-8 it allways says segmentation fault. Other charsets says "up-to-date" and this is the last one, exits with segfault. this is also the case with locale-gen
[18:37] <oCean_> mib: what partition, what filesystem, what's the entry in fstab?
[18:37] <diginux> Jussel: i meant, has the headphone jack worked on your laptop before?
[18:37] <Jussel> diginux: Yup, they do work on Windows 7 / Vista / XP etc.
[18:38] <diginux> Jussel: what kind of soundcard is it again?
[18:38] <neoblackdragon> ci sono italiani?
[18:38] <Jussel> diginux: Ubuntu version: 8.04 Desktop // Soundcard: Realtek ALC660-VD
[18:38] <Pici> !it | neoblackdragon
[18:38] <fabio> si io
[18:38] <oCean_> mustangg: at what point you see that the installer has found a hostname? In the who-are-you screen?
[18:38] <mib> Ocean, i created an extra partition and previousl entry in fstab is /dev/sda2    /media/storage    ext3    users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 0
[18:39] <aitux> hi all
[18:39] <lore20> fabio: neoblackdragon: fatela finita di fare figure di ***** in sto canale e andate su #ubuntu-it o #ubuntu-it-chat
[18:39] <diginux> Jussel: so in alsa do you have a thing labeled headphones? if so, is it a volume bar, or just a little square box and says under Item: Headphone Jack Sense
[18:39] <whut> apt-get -f doesn't help.
[18:39] <whut> apt-get clean doesn't help.
[18:39] <^hashbang^> what's a good pgp key manager for ubuntu?
[18:39] <fabio> jiffe92: dpkg-deb or a loki installer
[18:39] <whut> apt-get purge <package> doesn't help. =(
[18:39] <^hashbang^> !pgp
[18:39] <oCean_> mib: well the entry seems correct. Is the /media/storage directory an existing dir ?
[18:40] <taz> ubottu....  i did look at http://appdb.winehq.org   then check with crossloop.... please can u help me with step to step ??/
[18:40] <Jussel> diginux: All I got is the normal mixer-thing, next of my time, etc.
[18:40] <arvind_khadri> whut: sudp dpkg --purge <package name >
[18:40] <absynth> whut: then apt-get remove apt-get :D
[18:40] <mib> Ocean_: the /media/storage dir exist but its empty
[18:40] <gades> hello everybody
[18:40] <oCean_> mib: ok. Type "mount -a" see if you get errors
[18:40] <Mba7eth> how can i find my default gateway using terminal ?
[18:40] <gades> How to be a official ubuntu developer?
[18:40] <diginux> Jussel: what kind of laptop?
[18:40] <oCean_> Mba7eth: "route -n"
[18:41] <intmed> video flickers while playing
[18:41] <intmed> why ?
[18:41] <arvind_khadri> !motu > gades
[18:41] <Jussel> diginux: Asus X53S - Just got it for 2 Months
[18:41] <oCean_> Mba7eth: line starting with "0.0.0.0"  -> 2nd field is default gw
[18:41] <mib> Ocean: it says error of wrong fstype....
[18:41] <defoliant> всем приветы
[18:42] <^hashbang^> !ru | defoliant
[18:42] <diginux> Jussel: try this edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and add this line to end of the file: options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo
[18:42] <Jussel> hi hashbang^
[18:42] <defoliant> ok )
[18:42] <Mba7eth> thanks oCean_
[18:42] <diginux> Jussel: dotn worry that it says lenovo
[18:42] <^hashbang^> hi jussel
[18:42] <Jussel> diginux: thanks, I'll try it
[18:42] <oCean_> mib: make sure what filesystem is on /dev/sda2 "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[18:42] <Jussel> diginux: bash: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base: Permission denied
[18:42] <oCean_> Mba7eth: sure, np
[18:42] <diginux> Jussel: sudo nano -w /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[18:44] <mib> oCean: it shows Linux system
[18:44] <LeoWei> is it possible if installation done by copying the files in ubuntu?
[18:44] <LeoWei> am using ubuntu 8.04
[18:45] <Jussel> diginux: done, Reboot now, I guess?
[18:45] <mib> http://pastebin.ca/1335044
[18:45] <oCean_> mib: you know it's ext3?
[18:45] <fosco__> LeoWei, not sure to understand, but you can not install ubuntu by just copying the installation files
[18:45] <diginux> Jussel: yeah, there might be a way to have it take effect without reboot, but i dont know how
[18:45] <Cruster> hi all, I have a problem with  ac adapter not being recognized as plugged in (ac adapter folder empty in /proc/acpi)
[18:45] <mib> Ocean_ : so what should i do next
[18:45] <Jussel> diginux: No problem, I'll reboot it, and brb in the channel, thanks ;)
[18:46] <^hashbang^> what config file in ubuntu manages the init runlevels?
[18:46] <oCean_> mib: what does "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /media/storage" say? What is the exact error?
[18:46] <whut> Please, can someone help me?
[18:46] <ramontayag> can you update an attribute and skip filters?
[18:46] <fabio> /etc/inittab i think
[18:46] <^hashbang^> fabio: nope, I thought that tooo.
[18:46] <ramontayag> gah sorry wrong room
[18:47] <mib> Ocean: no error seen when i did sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /media/storage
[18:47] <^hashbang^> oh fedora/redhat it its /etc/inittab but I don't find that on ubuntu
[18:47] <fabio> there is boot-up manager
[18:47] <oCean_> mib: oke, so it's mounted atm? Then there might be a typo in fstab?
[18:47] <LeoWei> fosco__ : what i mean is installing programs such as ip detects
[18:47] <_2> mib "ls /media/storage -ld
[18:47] <mib> now its mounted atm..
[18:47] <fabio> it's named bum
[18:48] <mib> drwxr-xr-x 5 mib mib 4096 2009-02-06 00:31 /media/storage/
[18:48] <Pici> ^hashbang^: Thats because we use upstart, see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[18:48] <_2> mib ok looks like you own it.
[18:48] <fabio> i know: /etc/event.d
[18:48] <^hashbang^> Pici: cool, thank you. Fabio: awasome thanks
[18:48] <abhinay> ^hashbang^, hello hashbang :)
[18:48] <abhinay> what's up?
[18:48] <mib> so how should i ensure its mounted all the time?
[18:49] <diginux> jussel: any luck?
[18:49] <jussel> diginux: It didn't work. I Rebooted my PC, And the headphone is still not working.
[18:49] <oCean_> mib: I checked your fstab entry again. Weird... that really seems ok
[18:49] <^hashbang^> hi there abhinay
[18:49] <diginux> jussel: ok, replace that line i had you put in with tehse two lines: options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=lenovo
[18:49] <diginux> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[18:49] <fosco__> LeoWei, still don't understand, to install programas in ubuntu just use the package manager (apt-get, aptitude, synaptic or adept)
[18:49] <mib> Ocean_ : what goes wrong actually
[18:49] <dremits> hey how can i configure grub to load windows xp by default instead of ubuntu
[18:49] <jussel> diginux: thanks, I'll try it.
[18:49] <_2> mib add a line in fstab "/dev/sda2 /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0"
[18:49] <oCean_> mib: That's what we've to find out
[18:49] <diginux> jussel: you using 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu?
[18:49] <LeoWei> very hard..
[18:50] <oCean_> mib: unmount the drive "sudo umount /media/storage"
[18:50] <mib> Ocean: should i remove the last line previously before replacing the new one?
[18:50] <LeoWei> the programs is in tar.bz archive
[18:50] <oCean_> mib: than modify your line in /etc/fstab
[18:50] <jussel> diginux: 32-bit // 8.04 Desktop edition // Completely updated, i386 Version thing :)
[18:50] <oCean_> mib: what do you mean? removing line?
[18:50] <fosco__> LeoWei, so, read the README and or INSTALL files
[18:50] <_2> oCean_ where is his fstab posted?
[18:50] <diginux> jussel: ok, so try those two lines, reboot, and lets se what happens
[18:50] <fabio> Completely updated -> outdated
[18:51] <oCean_> _2: scroll back
[18:51] <jussel> diginux: Two lines? Copy/pasted your line, and it does appear as one line.
[18:51] <_2> oCean_ just got here.  you scroll back
[18:51] <mib> Oceah: i mean do i add this extra line or removing the previouly last line with /dev/sda2    /media/storage    ext3    users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 0?
[18:51] <jussel> diginux: options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=lenovo   only?
[18:51] <oCean_> mib: you cannot have duplicate entries in /etc/fstab.
[18:51] <oCean_> mib: change your options in that line. change 'users ... 000' in 'defaults'
[18:52] <diginux> jussel: remove the line i had you put before, then add this line: options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=lenovo
[18:52] <oCean_> _2: well, I did not mean to offend. The fstab line was pasted a couple of lines back
[18:52] <diginux> jussel: right after that, put this 2nd line: alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[18:52] <LeoWei> fosco__ dont have too...this one so complicated.. download the files from freedns.afraid.org
[18:52] <mib> ocean.i removed the /dev/sda2    /media/storage    ext3    users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 0 anf replace with /dev/sda2 /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0
[18:52] <jussel> diginux: on a new line?
[18:52] <mib> the probvlem still persist
[18:52] <diginux> jussel: yes
[18:52] <diginux> jussel: 2 lines total
[18:52] <dremits> hey how can i configure grub to load windows xp by default instead of ubuntu
[18:52] <oCean_> mib: have you unmounted the /media/storage atm?
[18:52] <fosco__> LeoWei, no README file? then just delete that file
[18:52] <jussel> diginux:  [ Wrote 2 lines ]
[18:52] <jussel> diginux: reboot now?
[18:52] <burkmat> dremits, Edit the default option in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:53] <mib> yeah
[18:53] <DoYouKnow> how do I use vinagre (remote desktop) through NAT? I only see an ipv6 address on both sides, and I can't connect
[18:53] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on a Dell Precision M6300.  This morning my nvidia driver went all funky (green and black checkerboard in the background).  Is this a known issue or am I just a regular idiot?
[18:53] <intmed> does wine support games for windows like GTA San Andreas
[18:53] <mib> i have unmounted them
[18:53] <Cruster> why isn't my ac adapter recognized when plugged-in or unlugged in ubuntu, but in mandriva i.e. works fine?
[18:53] <oCean_> mib: ok, clear. And mount -a failed again. Same error?
[18:53] <OriWB> absyth: hey, could you help me finish with the internet connection?
[18:53] <dremits> thanks
[18:53] <jussel> diginux: thanks again, I'll be right back ^^ Rebooting again
[18:53] <mib> Ocean.mount -a doesnt give me any error
[18:53] <OriWB> absynth: hey, could you help me finish with the internet connection?
[18:54] <oCean_> mib: oke :)
[18:54] <mib> then?
[18:54] <oCean_> mib: than it's mounted, right
[18:54] <_2> mib   no error, means 'no error'
[18:54] <mib> i still cant access to the mounted
[18:54] <absynth> OriWB: yea, but wait 10-15 min...telephone
[18:54] <OriWB> absynth: no prob. thanx
[18:54] <oCean_> mib: does the mounted drive show up in "mount" command?
[18:54] <mp3guy> hi, what's the easiest way to display a simple gnome message box at a specified time?
[18:54] <mib> okie
[18:55] <mib> it only works when i close the explorer and reopen again the drive
[18:55] <lechon> mp3guy, look into crontab
[18:55] <oCean_> mib: aha.
[18:55] <mib> ocean: so you mean previous entry in fstab has problem
[18:55] <mib> ?
[18:55] <DoYouKnow> so any ideas on how I can connect to a host attached via nat through vinagre?
[18:55] <mib> instead of having users,exec... we use defaults
[18:55] <lechon> intmed, just google for "wine + game title", you'll have better luck
[18:56] <burkmat> DoYouKnow, You're probably going to need port forwarding (vinagre is a VNC Client, right?)
[18:56] <_2> mib your line in fstab should look like this "/dev/sda2 /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0"
[18:56] <whut> apt-get would install a package that is corrupt (aborted download) no matter what I do. I tried so far apt-get clean, apt-get --purge remove <packagename>, apt-get autoclean. Nothing works. What should I do?
[18:56] <jussel> diginux: Guess it isn't working.
[18:56] <mib> what is the difference of defaults and users,exec,rw,umask=000 ?
[18:56] <LeoWei> fosco_ haha.. okok..
[18:56] <oCean_> mib: yep. the 'umask' thing is for vfat etc
[18:56] <mikeyyy> hi guys, i got a problem here. need ur help. i installed cedega and launch the program. Cedega try to connect to internet to find the update but it failed because im behind proxy. how can i configure my ubuntu so that all the applications will connect through a proxy? Need help. Plzzzzzzz
[18:57] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, yes
[18:57] <oCean_> mib: so you're rockin' now right? :-)
[18:57] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, I'll try that
[18:57] <mib> yeah
[18:57] <diginux> jussel: what is the model of your computer again?
[18:57] <mib> i just cant u/s why users and defaults make difference
[18:57] <tharis20> people, I'm trying to install mono here, but when I type apt-get mono it says: "install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables"
[18:57] <oCean_> mib:  it's the umask thing
[18:57] <jussel> diginux: Asus X53S
[18:57] <_2> mib first of all "?mask"  is M# specific.  it will not work with other file system,  namely those that actually have permissions bits.
[18:57] <tharis20> I've installed a bunch of mono-something packs and used synaptic for others and nothing...
[18:57] <mib> oh
[18:57] <jussel> diginux: or a Asus X53   (same model, but another name for it :P )
[18:57] <oCean_> mib: that's for ntfs/vfat
[18:58] <mib> so umask doesnt work with ext3 in this case
[18:58] <oCean_> mib: indeed
[18:58] <_2> mib not in any case
[18:58] <naxa> hi... can someone help me what locale -a writes as output for me?
[18:58] <mib> i see..dint aware of.
[18:58] <diginux> jussel: im not sure what else to try at this point, have the headphones ever worked in linux?
[18:58] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, know of any good links?
[18:58] <AwaDoV> hi there
[18:58] <mikeyyy> hi guys, i got a problem here. need ur help. i installed cedega and launch the program. Cedega try to connect to internet to find the update but it failed because im behind proxy. how can i configure my ubuntu so that all the applications will connect through a proxy? Need help. Plzzzzzz
[18:59] <taz> hello how i will know what Wine version  ?? where i can find it ??
[18:59] <Gnea> naxa: only you can determine that
[18:59] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, I tried uncommenting out the line in sysctl for NAT, that says something like ip forward
[18:59] <jussel> dixinux: Actually I never tried that. I knew that my sound wasn't working, so I thought lets try my headphones, but no luck.
[18:59] <mikeyyy> taz: type wine --version
[18:59] <jussel> diginux: The strange thing is that my normal boxes on my laptop are working, just the headphone isn't.
[18:59] <tharis20> hey, can somebody help me?
[18:59] <jussel> diginux: and the sound of my normal boxes are crap, so that why I want to use a headphone
[18:59] <burkmat> DoYouKnow, Uhm... Am I understanding you correctly that you're trying to connect to a host which is located behind a NATed router?
[18:59] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, the link I was reading said it was for nat, anyway. that's what spawned this weird issue where I can access http internet sites but not the local vnc
[18:59] <taz> where i will tpye wine -- version ??
[18:59] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, yes
[19:00] <DoYouKnow> a router running ubuntu
[19:00] <tharis20> taz, in the console
[19:00] <mib> thanks anyway Ocean and 2_
[19:00] <mikeyyy> taz: press alt+F2, type xterm. In xterm, type wine --version
[19:00] <erUSUL> !ask | tharis20
[19:00] <_2> mib welcome
[19:00] <taz>  ok stand by  and will try
[19:00] <Mba7eth> how can i extract default gateway showed by I have issue route -n command on ubuntu .... but i want to extract default gateway using awk ? how to do that ?
[19:00] <naxa> Gnea: i mean i want to know how would locale -a know what to answer. to me it seems that these are some files on my hard disk or some text in config files. i would like to know how it gets the answer for me, not what is the answer, what i know of course
[19:00] <tharis20> erUSUL, I asked the question
[19:00] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, I just want my lan routed to my ethernet, so I can plug both my ethernet and a pc into a hub
[19:00] <tharis20> nobody replied me
[19:01] <DoYouKnow> *wlan
[19:01] <erUSUL> tharis20: i see it know ;P
[19:01] <diginux> jussel: one more idea
[19:01] <jussel> diginux: Yeh? :)
[19:01] <absynth> OriWB: ok, im ready :)
[19:01] <diginux> jussel: you know how to use synaptic?
[19:01] <Gnea> naxa: aah, the best way to do that is to examine the source
[19:02] <jussel> diginux: I'm pretty new to Ubuntu. so not really
[19:02] <taz> mikeyyy  it appear with run application.. then what i will do type in ???
[19:02] <burkmat> DoYouKnow, Using IPTables?
[19:02] <diginux> jussel: ok, hold on then
[19:02] <erUSUL> tharis20: mono should be installed banshee and tomboy need it to run
[19:02] <jussel> diginux: thanks =}
[19:02] <OriWB> absynth: ok, so we were getting me connected manually
[19:02] <naxa> Gnea: thanks for the idaea, but i am sure that someon will know this :)
[19:02] <LeoWei> !ebox
[19:02] <mikeyyy> in run application, type xterm.
[19:02] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, so far I have just uncommented net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[19:02] <Gnea> naxa: if you have deb-src identified in your sources.list, just:  sudo apt-get source belocs-locales-bin
[19:02] <Gnea> naxa: perhaps I misunderstood your question again :)
[19:03] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, will that not work?
[19:03] <naxa> will try it
[19:03] <burkmat> DoYouKnow, That's a bad idea... Means you won't be forwarding any traffic through the router. ^^
[19:03] <OriWB> absynth: but i made a discovery.My internet only really gets wierdly disconnected when I'm downloading movies
[19:03] <tharis20> erUSUL, so, I'm trying to run a Win app with wine, but it replies what I said...
[19:03] <absynth> OriWB: hmm
[19:03] <erUSUL> tharis20: well if its under wine... you will have to install the windows version of mono in wine
[19:03] <absynth> OriWB: is your signal strength good ?
[19:03] <naxa> Gnea: i would like to understand the basics of the "locale" system: what files does locale use and what config files it has and what's it's main 3 export LC_ALL and so for?
[19:04] <tharis20> erUSUL, oh, stupid, of course
[19:04] <erUSUL> tharis20: dunno if it works or not
[19:04] <burkmat> DoYouKnow, Take a look here: http://tinyurl.com/3jc2sp  Shows you how to forward a connection through the NAT box.
[19:04] <tharis20> xD
[19:04] <OriWB> absynth: eah
[19:04] <taz> mikeyyy .. seem  not work
[19:04] <OriWB> absynth: yeah
[19:04] <erUSUL> !appdb | tharis20
[19:04] <burkmat> DoYouKnow, Gotta run now, sorry. Will be back in a while though. Good luck.
[19:04] <diginux> jussel: try this, sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-16-386
[19:04] <absynth> OriWB: just put mouseicon above wlan-networkmanager icon and wait
[19:04] <mikeyyy> taz: Have you installed wine?
[19:04] <taz> yes
[19:04] <Gnea> naxa: ah okay, then yes, the source will explain and show you how all of it works
[19:04] <taz> in applications
[19:04] <OriWB> absynth: i dont understand
[19:04] <jussel> diginux: Doing that right now, thanks =)
[19:04] <absynth> OriWB: it should give you the name and behind it in brackets, the signal strength in percent
[19:04] <diginux> jussel: after its done installing, reboot again, and let me know
[19:05] <naxa> Gnea: well, if i can understand the source :)
[19:05] <jussel> diginux: Thanks, I will =)
[19:05] <taz> miketyyy yes it from add and remove
[19:05] <OriWB> absynth: ok
[19:05] <absynth> OriWB: move your mouse on the internet icon
[19:05] <OriWB> absynth: ok
[19:05] <Gnea> naxa: look for readme's and .c and .h files :) they usually have comments in them that explain, more or less, what they do
[19:05] <absynth> OriWB: and wait
[19:05] <OriWB> absynth: ok
[19:05] <DoYouKnow> burkmat, ok, I found a site. thanks
[19:05] <naxa> Gnea: I see thanks :)
[19:05] <mikeyyy> taz: You want to know what version of wine you currently used right?
[19:06] <absynth> OriWB: it should report you your connection and the signal strength
[19:06] <taz> mikeyyy  yes
[19:06] <Gnea> naxa: for instance:  less belocs-locales-bin-2.4/locale/programs/locale.c
[19:06] <OriWB> absynth: yeah it is
[19:06] <jussel> diginux: Rebooting now ;) brb.
[19:06] <absynth> OriWB: the problem is, under 60% , it could be possible that u loose the connection sometimes
[19:06] <OriWB> absynth: no its 92
[19:06] <absynth> OriWB: hmm good, better then mine ^^
[19:07] <OriWB> absynth: lol we were getting me manually connected
[19:07] <_2> any way to connect the keyboard and mouse of one box to the xserver of another box ?
[19:07] <Gnea> naxa: it might not make a whole lot of sense right away, but if you can follow and understand the comments, you should be able to figure it out :)
[19:07] <naxa> i hope so :)
[19:07] <mikeyyy> taz: go to applications --> terminal --> and type wine --version in terminal. Tell me what it says
[19:07] <absynth> OriWB:yep, but i think this doesnt make it better
[19:07] <Gnea> _2: physically, in the same room, or remotely?
[19:07] <OriWB> absynth: ok
[19:07] <OriWB> absynth: so heres another question
[19:07] <taz> ok stand by
[19:07] <naxa> now i have to go couse it is late here and i am tired
[19:07] <naxa> thanks for help!
[19:07] <naxa> bye!
[19:08] <OriWB> absynth: how do i download without risking losing my connection?
[19:08] <_2> Gnea dmz lan    and i can see the display of the other box from where i am
[19:08] <absynth> OriWB: when i understand you right, you have a connection with your AP and you have internet
[19:08] <OriWB> absynth: whats ap?
[19:08] <Gnea> _2: i would suggest either a KVM or freenx
[19:08] <absynth> OriWB: hmm i try to think, wich problem could cause this problem
[19:08] <mib> hi, if i wrre to use/install Wine, can it be installable on my ext3 drive?
[19:08] <SunnyDP> access-point
[19:09] <SunnyDP> wi-fi router !
[19:09] <taz> i found  it said 1.0.1
[19:09] <_2> Gnea i'm not wanting to put the display of the other box on this one, just control that one from here
[19:09] <absynth> OriWB: Access Point
[19:09] <absynth> OriWB: your wlan router
[19:09] <OriWB> absynth: yeah i have both
[19:09] <mikeyyy> taz: yup.  that's the version you currently use
[19:09] <Gnea> !freenx | _2
[19:09] <mikeyyy> taz: it's the latest stable version of wine
[19:09] <_2> Gnea ;/
[19:09] <jussel> diginux: I think that it isn't working.
[19:09] <Gnea> _2: it can be a bit tricky to setup, but it works
[19:09] <Gnea> _2: what?
[19:10] <intmed> what is ubuntu repository
[19:10] <taz> that mean old verson or new ??
[19:10] <OriWB> absynth: someone told me that i get disconnected if there are too many connections, and mentioned bittorent
[19:10] <jussel> diginux: But I got a application named 'PulseAudio Device Chooser' now.
[19:10] <absynth> OriWB: so, you have internet, and when you want to download large files, your connection brakes
[19:10] <jussel> diginux: Maybe I can something with that?
[19:10] <OriWB> absynth: exactly
[19:10] <mikeyyy> taz: The newest version. Currently 1.1.4 is in development
[19:10] <diginux> jussel: hmm, could be, see what it does :)
[19:10] <Gnea> _2: you said you want to control the remote display
[19:10] <taz> how i can upgrade ??
[19:10] <diginux> jussel: my next suggestion is to upgrade to ububtu 8.10
[19:10] <absynth> OriWB: what do you mean with too many connections?
[19:11] <jussel> diginux: how? :P
[19:11] <_2> Gnea without piping it to this display
[19:11] <OriWB> absynth: i can sheck exactly what he wrote me, just a sec
[19:11] <mikeyyy> taz: it's the latest version. You can't update it unless 1.1.4 (stable) came up
[19:11] <absynth> OriWB: ok
[19:11] <Gnea> _2: then use a KVM.
[19:11] <taz> ok it will itself upgrade ??
[19:11] <_2> k
[19:12] <diginux> jussel: hold on
[19:12] <jussel> diginux: thanks again :)
[19:12] <mikeyyy> taz: No
[19:12] <Gnea> _2: next time, please be more specific when you ask :)
[19:12] <OriWB> abzynth: "and it only happens when I have too many connections at one time (hint: bittorrent)"
[19:13] <diginux> jussel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-to-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibix.html
[19:13] <jussel> diginux: Thanks
[19:13] <OriWB> absynth: "and it only happens when I have too many connections at one time (hint: bittorrent)"
[19:14] <mikeyyy> hi guys, i got a problem here. need ur help. i installed cedega and launch the program. Cedega try to connect to internet to find the update but it failed because im behind proxy. how can i configure my ubuntu so that all the applications will connect through a proxy? Need help. Plzzzzzzz
[19:14] <_2> "any way to connect the keyboard and mouse of one box to the xserver of another box ?"  <<< i should have added "without exporting the vidio of the remote box"  i susssssposes
[19:14] <OriWB> absynth: does that help at all?
[19:15] <taz> mikeyyy  i read in website http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=6131
[19:15] <taz> look at verison
[19:15] <absynth> OriWB: I dont see, why bittorent and other stuff like that could effect your wlan connection, it makes no sense (to me)
[19:15] <MonsieurY> want to test ekiga ? sip:*201393514@ekiga.net
[19:15] <jussel> diginux: It's updating now :-)
[19:15] <Absorto> hello! how do I upgrade a server installation of feisty to the latest release?
[19:15] <gwennn> Hi! I have a problem with compiz ... I must run it manually when I login  "sudo compiz" and then everything runs fine.How can I enable compiz?
[19:15] <OriWB> absynth: too many connections doesnt make sense?
[19:16] <_2> absynth unless the host is setup to drop connections that use torrents
[19:16] <OriWB> absynth: oh, he also said "you on bittorrent? I think you're router has a built-in setting that disconnects you when you have too many connection"
[19:16] <intmed> gwennn: i have also that problem
[19:16] <diginux> jussel: very good, hopefully in the newer version it works!
[19:16] <gwennn> intmed : jaunty?
[19:16] <jussel> Would be great :)
[19:17] <absynth> OriWB: You have only 1 connection with your AP, when you load files from different places, then the datapackges are queued
[19:17] <absynth> OriWB: Ok , that could be possible
[19:17] <OriWB> absynth: do you know how i can check?
[19:17] <absynth> OriWB: that your router disables your connection
[19:17] <mikeyyy> taz: yes.. it is list of cross loop version. Why?
[19:18] <MonsieurY> nobody want to to test ekiga ?
[19:18] <absynth> OriWB: do you know your gateway address?
[19:18] <OriWB> yeah
[19:18] <MonsieurY> is there any directory of this ?
[19:18] <OriWB> absynth: yeah
[19:18] <taz> mine is 1.0.1
[19:18] <_2> MonsieurY i don't test anything i can't pronounce
[19:18] <absynth> ok, just type the gateway address in your browser
[19:18] <OriWB> absynth: im in
[19:18] <mikeyyy> taz: it 'cross loop' version. not 'wine'..
[19:19] <MonsieurY> _2: why it's integrate in your os ubuntu ?
[19:19] <MonsieurY> ekiga
[19:19] <MonsieurY> :D
[19:19] <OriWB> absynth: its a siemens, if that helps
[19:19] <absynth> OriWB: ok, then , just look, after an option, that looks like our problem :D
[19:19] <absynth> OriWB: never had one :( , only fritzbox and orangef things
[19:20] <Taure> Hiya, I'm looking for help with playing DVDs. I've got the restricted extras, and have used sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh to allow for encrypted DVDs, but when they play they flicker. I've tried this in both totem and VLC. I've also used the dmesg | grep ata command to check my DMA - it's enabled. Any tips?
[19:20] <Taure> (I'm a noob - only installed on tuesday)
[19:20] <absynth> OriWB: maybe goolge after it
[19:20] <absynth> OriWB: google*
[19:20] <OriWB> absynth: ok
[19:21] <OriWB> absynth: thanx alot, i'll let you know if it works. Or you'll know it didnt if i sign off ;)
[19:21] <absynth> OriWB: but, if this is really your problem, then you should be connected to your AP all the time, you just have no internet connection sometimes
[19:21] <mzz> Taure: do only dvds flicker or does other stuff you play in totem do the same thing?
[19:21] <Taure> I'll test
[19:21] <absynth> OriWB: ok
[19:21] <absynth> OriWB: :)
[19:21] <mzz> Taure: also, what video card do you have and are desktop effects enabled?
[19:21] <OriWB> absynth: i think thats what happens, its beginning to make sense now
[19:22] <OriWB> absynth: talk to you later ;)
[19:22] <absynth> OriWB: good :) the solution is near, i can feel it :D
[19:22] <absynth> OriWB: ok
[19:22] <MonsieurY> sip:*201393514@ekiga.net
[19:23] <Taure> Only DVDs, yeah
[19:23] <Taure> I have ATI HD 2400
[19:23] <Taure> And I've got compiz running
[19:23] <mzz> Taure: which drivers is that using, the binary (fglrx) ones or the open (radeon) ones? There are some known problems with fglrx and xv video
[19:24] <Taure> fglrx
[19:24] <derjoerg> Hi everybody, can somebody explain me what "kernel: Cannot read proc file system: 9 - Bad file descriptor" in kern.log means?
[19:24] <Slart> Hello everyone.. I have some text files edited on a windows computer and I need to make them work nicely on my ubuntu machine.. some of the international characters isn't the same but linefeeds and newlines are still working.. there has to be some kind of converter I can use.. any hints?
[19:24] <thrashold> Is there any image viewer for Ubuntu supporting jpeg2k?
[19:24] <mzz> Taure: if that's your problem I'd expect it to happen for pretty much everything you play with vlc or mplayer unless you either switch to the radeon driver, disable compiz or switch from xv to x11/xshm for video playback (slow)
[19:24] <Taure> I'll disable compiz and see if that helps
[19:25] <mzz> Slart: many of them, and do you know the encoding they're currently using?
[19:25] <mzz> Slart: gedit actually has a "Character Coding" option in its load and save dialogs. Or you can use something like iconv if you prefer the command line.
[19:26] <Slart> mzz: what windows xp create by default =).. I can see if enca has anything wise to say about it
[19:26] <thrashold> How do you disable compiz in Ubuntu?
[19:26] <Taure> Haha I was just thinking that
[19:26] <intmed> me too
[19:26] <mzz> disable desktop effects in the "appearance" preferences applet
[19:26] <fosco__> thrashold, go to desktop effects and select none
[19:26] <voed22cj> Hi everyone. One question: I have ubuntu installed on my laptop and I have a problem regarding the SOUND. When I plug the headphones in, still, the sound comes out through the laptop speakers as well. This didn't happen in Windows. Does anyone know how to fix it? Thanks
[19:26] <thrashold> fosco_: Where is this? Could find it
[19:27] <thrashold> s/Could/Couldn't/
[19:27] <fosco__> system - preferences - appearance
[19:27] <Taure> Success!
[19:27] <Taure> Disabling effects makes it work
[19:27] <Slart> mzz: enca didn't recognize it.. file says it's a "Non-ISO extended-ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators"
[19:27] <Taure> Thanks
[19:27] <SiDi> Hello voed22cj, what audio card do you have ? if you have an HDA intel you'll just have to add a line in a conf and it shall be fixed ;)
[19:27] <Slart> mzz: I'll give gedit a try, thanks
[19:27] <gautada> Help a weird key combination just made gnome go from gray to a black.  This is just the gnome panel my background is still the same.  It looks like film negative.  The keys were some combination of <Ctrl>, <Super>, <Alt>, <Space>, <V>, and/or <B>.  How do I get gnome back to normal?
[19:27] <yoophglup> hello
[19:28] <KaptenRodSkagg> voed22cj, if you mute system sound the music player should sound in the headphones only...
[19:28] <SiDi> voed22cj: may you type '      lspci | grep -i "audio"       ' in a terminal and paste the output ?
[19:28] <mzz> Slart: what windows (notepad?) saved it as may depend on what locale windows thinks you're in
[19:28] <Slart> mzz: it's actually matlab .. but I guess that editor is as smart as notepad
[19:28] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[19:28] <Cpudan80> Is there some way to download the deb out of apt-get?
[19:28] <hatten> how do you make so that you hear sounds from both the speakers and the headphones plugged in into the front?
[19:28] <mzz> Slart: and it's pretty much impossible for tools (like file) to reliably detect the encoding if it's one of the one-byte-per-codepoint ones
[19:28] <zupb> hi, gusy. i try to mount my MMC flash card to my ubuntu... what device in /dev i must use for it?
[19:29] <voed22cj> sure
[19:29] <SiDi> Cpudan80: on packages.ubuntu.com there are every packages of the repo
[19:29] <gwennn> I must run compiz manually ...sudo compiz   at login How can I enable it automatically?
[19:29] <SiDi> Cpudan80: there also are a lot of packages on launchpad.net's PPA, and some websites provide deb packages for their soft (such as winehq)
[19:29] <Slart> mzz: yup.. I know
[19:29] <hatten> system>preferences>sessions, gwenn
[19:30] <fosco__> gwennn, install fusion-icon and add it to the session manager
[19:30] <voed22cj> this is it :  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[19:30] <yoophglup> Hey,  I am trying to reconfigure my audio ports so the mic and the line in are used as line outs.  I can do this in windows but having trouble getting it to work with ubuntu??? any ideas?
[19:30] <gwennn> hatten; I have jaunty
[19:30] <SiDi> gwennn: go to System -> Administration -> Sessions and add "compiz --replace &" but it should actually start up on its own if you enable it once
[19:30] <gwennn> it did't work
[19:30] <KaptenRodSkagg> hatten,  just plug in the headphones... and you have sound in both...  or shuld have
[19:30] <hatten> oh, nvm then
[19:30] <hatten> no
[19:30] <hatten> the sound stops in my speakers when i plug in my headphones
[19:30] <gwennn> thanks
[19:30] <SiDi> ok voed22cj give me a second to find the tutorial again. By the way, type my name when you type a message so i can spot it more easily
[19:30] <gwennn> I'll try
[19:30] <mzz> gwennn: "sudo compiz" does not make much sense. Is it not working as "you" even when you run it manually? If yes the problem may be with your user's compiz configuration, not with how it is started.
[19:31] <voed22cj> Sisi: Sure
[19:31] <voed22cj> Sidi: Sure
[19:31] <burkmat> hatten, You want sound from both?
[19:31] <hatten> yeah
[19:31] <SiDi> voed22cj: may you also tell me the exact model of your laptop ?
[19:31] <Slart> mzz: thanks for your help
[19:31] <gautada> solved my problem by changing the visual effects...
[19:31] <mzz> Slart: hope you can figure out what encoding it is actually in...
[19:31] <ubuntan> Greetings all. My ubuntu desktop got corrupted and I wanted to recover that. Now it is not starting the X server. Is there any way to reset the X server?
[19:31] <burkmat> hatten, Well... I know that in my Ubuntu 8.04 double clicking the volume control in GNOME and selecting the "Switches" tab lets me toggle it.
[19:32] <voed22cj> sony vaio
[19:32] <voed22cj> sidi: sony vio
[19:32] <voed22cj> sidi: sony vaio
[19:32] <SiDi> voed22cj: be as accurate as you can. there are a lot of sony and all of them don't have the same version of the audio chipset you're using ;)
[19:33] <yoophglup> so no one knows how to reconfigure an audio port??
[19:33] <voed22cj> sidi: found it: vaio VGN-Nr11M/S
[19:33] <zertyuio> hi there
[19:33] <SiDi> ok voed22cj give me a second :)
[19:33] <zertyuio> how to delete a folder and a sub folder in one command line ?
[19:33] <ubuntan> Now when I give startx, it gives me the error "The GNOME session manager cannot start properly. cannot establish any listening sockets. Try using failsafe session.
[19:33] <zertyuio> i forgot the command line
[19:33] <voed22cj> SiDi: sure, thanks
[19:34] <burkmat> zertyuio, You can recursively delete using -r.
[19:34] <zertyuio> using -r ?
[19:34] <maxime_> hi everyone
[19:34] <burkmat> zertyuio, Well, rm -r /tacos would delete /tacos and everything in it.
[19:34] <zertyuio> mkdir -Rf ?
[19:34] <hatten> burkmat ; thanks
[19:34] <burkmat> hatten, No problems. :)
[19:34] <hatten> just gotta check how to change the volume a bit now
[19:35] <yelworC> hi.. i installed x-chat in ubuntu and want to have tabs for the channels and a userlist.. this is how i expect xchat to look like.. i can not find these settings in the preferences
[19:35] <zertyuio> yes
[19:35] <zertyuio> wait i check
[19:35] <yoophglup> can anyone read what i am typing?
[19:35] <hatten> yeah
[19:35] <fosco__> yoonkn, yes
[19:35] <zrak> where is rc.conf located?
[19:35] <fosco__> zrak, /etc
[19:36] <zrak> well i try gedit /etc/rc.conf
[19:36] <zrak> i get empty file
[19:36] <zertyuio> it display this ftp> rm -r ok
[19:36] <maxime_> hmmm too few options in x-chat
[19:36] <zertyuio> usage: rmdir directory-name
[19:36] <zertyuio> ftp>
[19:36] <maxime_> i use nexgen mIrc script through wine
[19:36] <maxime_> well nto right now, im trying x-chat
[19:36] <vigo> yelworC: The tabs are listed in the left panel..I think
[19:36] <zertyuio> ftp> rm -r /ok
[19:36] <zertyuio> usage: rmdir directory-name
[19:36] <zertyuio> ftp>
[19:36] <burkmat> zertyuio, Ah, you didn't mention it was over FTP.
[19:36] <zertyuio> why ?
[19:36] <yelworC> yeah i see but i want tabs ;) i dont like the look of this list
[19:36] <maxime_> lol
[19:36] <^hashbang^> irssi rules =)
[19:36] <maxime_> what the
[19:37] <zertyuio> it's like linux
[19:37] <burkmat> zertyuio, I actually don't know if you can recursively delete over FTP...
[19:37] <hatten> hey guys, the sound volume in my earplugs are way too loud compared to my speakers
[19:37] <zertyuio> no u can't
[19:37] <hatten> i have the speakers at max
[19:37] <zertyuio> i confirm u
[19:37] <zertyuio> it's not working for me
[19:37] <zertyuio> on ftp
[19:37] <hatten> and no volume control at the plugs
[19:37] <yoophglup> no one in heres knows how to reconfigure an audio port from output to input!!!!!????? or at least what file I can study to figure it out myself???
[19:38] <hatten> i have both enabled at the same time
[19:38] <zertyuio> is there any here knows ?
[19:38] <Kino_> #ubuntu-pt
[19:38] <maxime_> yoophglup: what the hell man, google it, god damn it
[19:38] <^hashbang^> maxime_: please watch your language..
[19:38] <burkmat> yoophglup, If we knew we'd tell you, I promise. Also, people might be more willing to help if you dropped a couple of ?'s and !'s... 1 is enough.
[19:38] <SiDi> voed22cj: a last command, sorry  : cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#* | grep Codec
[19:38] <yoophglup> damn to u a response from anyone would be polite i am out of here
[19:39] <rakudave> Kino_: syntax is "/join #something"
[19:39] <voed22cj> SiDi: to type it in terminal?
[19:39] <Brad777> if i'm using kubuntu atm can i just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop to switch to gnome?
[19:39] <maxime_> yoophglup: be polite yourself, in the first place, imbecile, you dont deserve any help, according to myself , of course :)
[19:39] <^hashbang^> !pat | yoophglup
[19:39] <^hashbang^> !patience | yoophglup
[19:39] <gwennn> compiz works fine now ...Thanks everybody!
[19:39] <SiDi> voed22cj: yes. it's to know the exact version of the audio chipset. all the vaio's don't use the same
[19:40] <vigo> yoohglup: nope/\
[19:40] <jimdb> how many ppl in here have looked at kde 4.2?
[19:40] <maxime_> im out guys, ill come back from my other irc client
[19:40] <voed22cj> SiDi: here it is Codec: Realtek ALC262
[19:40] <voed22cj> Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
[19:40] <Brad777> jimdb: i have
[19:40] <SiDi> voed22cj: okies
[19:40] <^hashbang^> jimdb: I have... for about 5 mins... then switched back =)
[19:40] <int256> where can i find applictaion for linux (ubuntu 8.10)
[19:41] <jimdb> brad, what did you think of it?
[19:41] <^hashbang^> int256: what application?
[19:41] <SiDi> voed22cj: type the command "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base" in order to edit the alsa config file
[19:41] <mitch_ux> hi there, do anyone plays wolfenstein enemy territory? I have some problem
[19:42] <maxime_> int256 go to terminal and type fpkg --configure -a  (is it kpfg ? )
[19:42] <SiDi> voed22cj: at the end of the line, add :       options snd-hda-intel model=sony-assamd
[19:42] <^hashbang^> mitch_ux: this is a ubuntu support channel, not a wolfenstein support channel.
[19:42] <int256> ^hashbang^: like download manager, a fast one.
[19:42] <Brad777> jimdb: well I think it looks great but it can be pretty unstable
[19:42] <SiDi> voed22cj: then you can reboot and enjoy :) if it doesn't work (or if the whole sound disappears :P) we'll try another model
[19:42] <Brad777> if i'm using kubuntu atm can i just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop to switch to gnome?
[19:42] <SiDi> mitch_ux: what kind of problem ?
[19:42] <voed22cj> SiDi: done, thanks. rebooting
[19:43] <^hashbang^> int256: there are tons.... open: System-Administration->Synaptic Package Manager and search for download manager
[19:43] <int256> ^hashbang^: any sugessions
[19:44] <jimdb> sudo -i
[19:44] <jimdb> echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[19:44] <^hashbang^> int256: naw, I don't use themmm
[19:44] <jimdb> mitch_ux:  does that address your issue?
[19:44] <^hashbang^> int256: s/themmm/them/
[19:45] <gwennn> maxime : dpkg --configure -a
[19:45] <int256> ^hashbang^: will applications for KDE will on ubuntu
[19:45] <fosco__> !uuid
[19:45] <^hashbang^> int256: use the package manager for ubuntu, there are tons of software packages out there
[19:45] <hatten> most kde apps work on ubuntu
[19:46] <jimdb> brad777:  i have been using it and have resolved many issues and it seems to be much more stable now.  i'm actually quite impressed.
[19:46] <int256> hatten: ok
[19:46] <hatten> brb, change nick
[19:46] <jimdb> mitch_ux:  are you there?
[19:46] <zertyuio> over ftp how to delete a folder and his sub folder ?
[19:47] <hatten> back
[19:47] <int256> ^hashbang^: will all the application showing in Synaptic Package Manager is compatible with ubuntu that i am using
[19:47] <Brad777> jimdb: how did u fix it? I am all the way up to date atm and I have this weird glitch when i login where if i don't click while it loadsthen the screen turns white and just sits like that
[19:47] <^hashbang^> zertyuio: usually you need to cd to the sub foler and remove it... then cd .. and remove the top level folder
[19:48] <^hashbang^> int356: yes
[19:48] <burkmat> zertyuio, You're either going to need a FTP client that supports recursive deletion or a customized FTP server... Suggest you Google for: "ftp recursive delete"
[19:48] <^hashbang^> int256: yes
[19:48] <jimdb> brad777:  which kde 4.2 did you install?  neon kde nightly?
[19:48] <zertyuio> i got thousand of folder
[19:48] <voed22cj> SiDi: Wow, thanks. it works
[19:48] <zertyuio> that's not pratical for me
[19:48] <burkmat> zertyuio, Then I suggest you try one of the clients that support it.
[19:48] <^hashbang^> zertyuio: ok try using fireftp (firefox plugin) or gftp (gnome ftp client)
[19:48] <burkmat> zertyuio, You don't really seem to be listening what I'm saying, so I'm just going to back off...
[19:48] <zertyuio> ok
[19:48] <SiDi> voed22cj: you're welcome :) may you remind me your model so that i add it to the french doc's database, please ?
[19:49] <zertyuio> ok thx to all
[19:49] <^hashbang^> zertyuio:np
[19:49] <voed22cj> SiDi: Sony Vaio: VGN-NR11M/S
[19:49] <SiDi> voed22cj: nevermind found it back :)
[19:49] <SiDi> voed22cj: well thanks :D
[19:50] <voed22cj> :P
[19:51] <SiDi> voed22cj: by the way when you buy a laptop, always try to get one with an HDA intel :) it works just well with the good model
[19:51] <Travis-42> is there a good, cheap way to backup files online with linux?  I have previously used mozy (unlimited $5/month) but they don't have a linux client.  Amazon S3 sounds like a nice option, but it'll cost more like $30-40/month.
[19:51] <jimdb> brad777:  you there?
[19:51] <dayo2> does anyone know how i can get the dock in this screenshot to show? http://francois.vogelweith.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30:theme-gnome-qstep-into-freedomq&catid=18:themes&Itemid=23
[19:51] <LaUd> ? installing nautilus scipts --> do i just extract files to this folder ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and i'm good to go?
[19:51] <prone> hello gais
[19:51] <SiDi> Travis-42: did you try through Wine by chance ?
[19:51] <Brad777> jimdb: i'm not sure whatever came on my kubuntu livecd
[19:51] <prone> can anyone of you tell a girl how to install glibc 2.3.2?
[19:51] <voed22cj> SiDi: thanks for the tip. I was planning to change this one anyway in the near future
[19:51] <prone> seem like I need it
[19:52] <^hashbang^> day02: try installing avant
[19:52] <SiDi> dayo2: probably avant-window-navigator
[19:52] <prone> for this blender 3d software
[19:52] <int256> ^hashbang^: hot to monitor internet usage.
[19:52] <burkmat> prone, If only you had been a boy I would've known, but girls? Sorry, don't know how to help you install glibc.
[19:52] <dayo2> prone: sudo aptitude install glibc-2.3.2
[19:52] <Travis-42> SiDi: yea.  I can't get it to work.  It's also reported "garbage" in wine app db.
[19:52] <dayo2> prone: what ubuntu version?
[19:52] <jimdb> brad777:  look up "how to install kde 4.2 on ubuntu" in google and find the one that gives you the link to install the kde nightly.
[19:53] <dayo2> SiDi: av-who?
[19:53] <jimdb> that dock app is avant window navigator.
[19:53] <jimdb> there's a version you can install from synaptic.
[19:53] <SiDi> dayo2: the name of the dock is "awn" "avant-window-navigator" (well, i think it is :p)
[19:53] <Brad777> jimdb: okay
[19:53] <int256> ^hashbang^: not'hot' its How
[19:53] <^hashbang^> int256: you want an app to montior internet usage? hmm, there are a ton! try installing iftop
[19:53] <SiDi> dayo2: there also are other docks such as cairo-dock
[19:53] <prone> dayo2: "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "glibc-2.3.2""
[19:53] <dayo2> SiDi, jimdb: ok
[19:53] <jimdb> brad777:  seriously, this is a better installation than the experimental one they have for kubuntu users.
[19:54] <prone> dayo2: 8.10
[19:54] <int256> ^hashbang^: ok, how to install. i am new to ubuntu. (new to linux)
[19:54] <^hashbang^> int256: or if you want a little widget, you can install "screenlets" and then go and search for "netmonscreelet" and install it
[19:54] <dayo2> prone: try sudo aptitude install glibc-  and then press Tab twice
[19:54] <^hashbang^> int256: almost all the software you will ever need to install can and should be done from "Synaptic"
[19:54] <SiDi> Travis-42: don't know then :( the appdb entries are not really looking like there's a chance to make it run :(
[19:55] <int256> ^hashbang^: ok
[19:55] <jimdb> brad777: once you install it, you should change your session to the neon kde 4.2 rather than the kubuntu version which will also be listed.
[19:55] <prone> dayo2: glibc-doc glibc-doc-reference  glibc-pic glibc-source
[19:55] <jimdb> brad777:  and it takes only a few minutes to install via broadband.
[19:55] <int256> ^hashbang^: where is it
[19:55] <^hashbang^> int256: where is what?
[19:55] <dayo2> prone: hmm. that's weird. i think. i've got 8.04, and it offers me glibc-2.7.1
[19:56] <prone> dayo2: hmmm really strange. I miss some repository sources??
[19:56] <dayo2> prone: hang on
[19:56] <burkmat> prone, `sudo apt-get update` perhaps? I get offered glibc-2.7.1 too.
[19:56] <int256> ^hashbang^: i got it. but i cannot find iftop in Synaptic
[19:56] <dayo2> prone: yes i think so. try what burkmat said
[19:56] <int256> ^hashbang^: i searched but not found
[19:57] <^hashbang^> int256: try hitting "reload"
[19:58] <dayo2> prone: after the update, try the double-Tab thing again, and see if it doesn't show glibc-2.7.1
[19:58] <int256> ^hashbang^: reloaded, still cannot find
[19:59] <eike_> hi, i have a ShareCentral from Kensington (http://de.kensington.com/html/15960.html), but it won't work with ubuntu intrepid. does anybody know a way to use it with intrepid?
[19:59] <prone> dayo2: yep. now it shows 2.7.1
[19:59] <gwennn> dayo; Try also cairo dock and gnome-docky
[19:59] <^hashbang^> int256: hmm
[19:59] <Like> hi and
[20:00] <^hashbang^> !apt > ^hashbang^
[20:00] <prone> dayo2: "0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded."
[20:00] <^hashbang^> !apt | int256
[20:01] <^hashbang^> int256: check that out..
[20:01] <Improv> Where can I get more information about how Ubuntu's init works?
[20:01] <dayo2> prone: did u do `sudo aptitude update` or was it `sudo aptitude upgrade`   ?
[20:02] <int256> ^hashbang^: i got screenlets, from Applications > Add/Remove...
[20:02] <SiDi> Improv: what do you need to know? the question is vague
[20:02] <^hashbang^> Improv: check out http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[20:02] <uldtot> Hello, Anyone who can help me setup on ubuntu server (mail, http, sql and ftp) i recently lost my windows server and ubuntu or any other free i cannot work with...
[20:02] <prone> dayo2: no i did install glibc2-7 or whatever it was called
[20:02] <Improv> hashbang: Thanks!
[20:03] <^hashbang^> Improv: np, had that same question about 20 mins ago
[20:03] <dayo2> prone: first do this: `sudo aptitude update`
[20:03] <prone> dayo2: :)
[20:03] <prone> dayo2: I'm on it!
[20:03] <prone> dayo2: done
[20:03] <^hashbang^> int256: cool..
[20:03] <dayo2> prone: after that: `sudo aptitude install glibc-2.7.1`
[20:04] <SiDi> uldtot : with the server install cd you can install lamp ftp ssh and such stuff with only a few clicks
[20:04] <uldtot> did install them. but i cant find any softrware so i can manage users or sertup accounts..
[20:04] <uldtot> SiDi*
[20:04] <prone> dayo2: no change,. maybe it's allready installed?
[20:04] <SiDi> uldtot useradd and usermod commands i think :)
[20:05] <SiDi> uldtot you were not using your windows server in command line, i suppose ? :P
[20:05] <dayo2> prone: ok, maybe. do: `sudo aptitude show glibc-2.7.1`
[20:05] <uldtot> no. GUI :D
[20:05] <a555> I am trying to watch a you tube video and it says i need java, i tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and it installed flash, but cant find the sudo for java..
[20:05] <^hashbang^> a555: are you running amd64?
[20:05] <burkmat> Would be an interesting video seeing someone actually try to set up AD in CLI... :P
[20:06] <a555> yes
[20:06] <uldtot> i try adduser :) brb :D
[20:06] <prone> dayo2: hmm... says it's unable to locate it
[20:06] <a555> ^hashbang^: yes
[20:06] <invisibleNinja> I wonder why on earth Synaptic decided to download and install Eclipse version 3.2, when the latest is 3.4!
[20:06] <dayo2> prone: it actually says glibc-2.7.1 is not a real package, it's provided by libc6
[20:06] <^hashbang^> a555: try this http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[20:06] <prone> dayo2: yes
[20:06] <dayo2> prone: try this: `sudo aptitude install libc6`
[20:07] <^hashbang^> a555: it's the only thing that worked for me
[20:07] <gwennn> uldtot: man adduser
[20:07] <a555> ^hashbang^: do you have a good link on how to unpack .tar.gz and install everything from the command line? I am a linux noob
[20:07] <a555> ^hashbang^: or even from the GUI would be better
[20:07] <LePHiSTO> a555: tar xfzv <archivename>
[20:07] <^hashbang^> a555: tar xvfz "filename"
[20:08] <dayo2> prone: if i'm not mistaken, then you can in fact just do: `sudo aptitude install build-essential`. but try the first option
[20:08] <^hashbang^> a555: cd "new dir from package"
[20:08] <LePHiSTO> wattatt?
[20:08] <LePHiSTO> ww
[20:08] <prone> dayo2: ah, it runs the isntallation process saying 0 stuff installed
[20:08] <prone> dayo2: ah
[20:08] <burkmat> a555, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/
[20:08] <^hashbang^> burkmat: nice 1
[20:08] <cphillips> im trying to get a game (turning point: fall of liberty) to install on wine. it keeps getting stuck at "publishing product information". help?
[20:09] <uldtot> added new user now.
[20:09] <a555> nice... thanks guys! :-)
[20:09] <dayo2> prone: have u ever edit your source list? maybe u deleted something in there by accident?
[20:09] <^hashbang^> cphillips: try #winehq
[20:09] <SiDi> uldtot :)
[20:09] <uldtot> SiDa > how to setup email account for a user?
[20:09] <cphillips> ^hashbang^, thanks, im not familiar with all the irc channels yet
[20:09] <prone> dayo2: I did edit it, but I'm pretty sure everything is there.... welll, it's installing a lot of stuff now
[20:09] <^hashbang^> cphillips: you bet...
[20:10] <dayo2> prone: ok, let see if it covers glibc-2.7.1
[20:12] <prone> dayo2: apt says libc6 is installed
[20:12] <SiDi> uldtot i never used command line mailing, sorry :P
[20:12] <dayo2> prone: ok, cool. so u should now have glibc-2.7.1
[20:12] <dayo2> prone: what did u need it for, anyway?
[20:12] <uldtot> sida > okay. thanks for the user help. now i just need everything else lol :D
[20:12] <sara_> hi i need to make a video of my desktop
[20:13] <sara_> hi i need to make a video of my desktop what software do i need?
[20:13] <SiDi> uldtot : in my language sida means AIDS :(
[20:13] <nanotube> sara_: recordmydesktop
[20:13] <Baatti> wtf, I swear I'm doing everything right...
[20:13] <Shadoweaver> Hello
[20:13] <uldtot> ups sorry. SiDi > typo.
[20:13] <nanotube> sara_: or use a video camera and point it an the display :)
[20:13] <Shadoweaver> Hey IcyPolecat
[20:13] <Baatti> I need help getting Java installed on my computer for web browser use
[20:13] <uldtot> SiDi > the yellow text is hard to read on this old monitor :)
[20:13] <sara_> nanotube, yuk soooooo improfessional
[20:13] <dayo2> nanotube: i was waiting for someone to say something like that lol
[20:14] <nanotube> sara_: then recordmydesktop it is :)
[20:14] <Baatti> I've downloaded java-6u12-linux-x64.bin....
[20:14] <prone> dayo2: blender 3d
[20:14] <nanotube> dayo2: well, it /is/ a viable alternative, so i figured i'd mention it for completeness. or something  like that :)
[20:14] <FreshPrince__> where can i select new GDM themes?
[20:14] <Baatti> I've moved it to my java folder, chmoded it...extracted it, but it WON'T WORK on my browser!
[20:14] <dayo2> prone: well, did blender install now?
[20:14] <prone> dayo2: ./blender: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:14] <nanotube> !themes
[20:15] <serfers> Hey everyone. Im having a bit of trouble. im trying to make an app listen on a certain port for connections. However, when i open the app, it says that tht port is already in use. Is there any way i can see whats using it and kill it or delete an iptabl rule or somthing? thanks
[20:15] <nanotube> prone: then install the libstdc++5 package from the repos.
[20:16] <adaptr> serfers: first you'd need to know what is using it: netstat -plnt |grep portnumber
[20:16] <nanotube> serfers: "sudo netstat -plantu" will show you all processes listening on ports
[20:16] <dayo2> prone: are u installing blender from source?
[20:17] <fedormorozov> hello
[20:17] <burkmat> Hello fedormorozov.
[20:17] <serfers> adaptr and nanotube thanks a lot. the process is vmnet-natd
[20:17] <serfers> can i just kill it with the system monitor?
[20:17] <alex87> hey guys, i just installed the virtualbox version from their website, but now i don't seem to have it installed at all, any ideas?
[20:17] <fedormorozov> please, if someone could help me, I installed Ubuntu 7.10 and my wireless does not connect to any wifi. It detects it, but does not connects.
[20:18] <serfers> adaptr and nanotube, i cant see vmnet-natd in the system monitor...
[20:18] <nanotube> serfers: it seems to be a vmware process that is uses for nat networking... sure you can kill it, assuming you don't need network in vmware at the time...
[20:18] <adaptr> serfers: you would kill vmware networking on any runnin gvmware guests
[20:18] <prone> dayo2: hmm... from a CD that came with a book about the program.
[20:18] <invisibleNinja> alex87, type sudo VirtualBox
[20:18] <dayo2> prone: try this instead: `sudo aptitude install blender`
[20:18] <serfers> adaptr, thats ok for now, i just dont know how to kill it if i dont see it in the system monitor
[20:18] <prone> dayo2: I just unpacked it and started  from terminal
[20:18] <mustangg> uck - sorry I need to ask again... but: where does the installer grab the hostname for the network configuration stage of install.
[20:18] <invisibleNinja> do may have to do a restart to see it in the application list
[20:18] <nanotube> serfers: in system monitor, make sure to select "show all processes"
[20:19] <nanotube> serfers: or kill it from the terminal using pkill or kill
[20:19] <adaptr> serfers: killall vmnet-natd
[20:19] <sara_> lmao i love the facebook addon for pidgin you can collect really personal infomation on people
[20:19] <fedormorozov> anybody knows why could happen that? It worked perfectly in the previous version of ubuntu
[20:19] <dayo2> prone: it's always better to use apt and avoid installing from source. apt takes care of the dependencies for u
[20:19] <prone> dayo2: cool, thanks
[20:20] <alex87> invisibleNinja: thanks! your a lifesaver
[20:20] <nanotube> fedormorozov: well, first an easy question - try the latest release of ubuntu (8.10) ?
[20:20] <decembre> hello
[20:20] <fedormorozov> yes, sorry, it is 8.10 not 7.10
[20:20] <dayo2> prone: you're welcome. it worked?
[20:21] <alex87> *you're
[20:21] <jussel> diginux: Hey Diginux, 're you there?
[20:21] <decembre> anyone knows really advantages of LTS ?
[20:21] <fedormorozov> it worked with 8.04 lts
[20:21] <soreau> ! lts | decembre
[20:22] <decembre> ubottu : yes I know, I would like to know more !
[20:22] <invisibleNinja> anytime alex87
[20:22] <int256> ^hashbang^: thanks for helping me to solve my problems.
[20:22] <decembre> I have a small server for me only
[20:22] <serfers> adaptr and nanotube thanks a million, its all good now
[20:22] <decembre> should I keep it in LTS or upgrade ?
[20:23] <decembre> whereas I have bugs in 8.04 !
[20:23] <mzz> if you're hitting bugs in 8.04 that you know are fixed in 8.10 you could upgrade
[20:24] <decembre> mzz : in fact lts doesn't give much more stability for simple use ?
[20:24] <tom1234> hi
[20:24] <int256> i found 8 bugs that is not mentioned any where else
[20:24] <decembre> like family server ?
[20:24] <mustangg> sorry I need to ask again... but: where does the installer grab the hostname for the network configuration stage of install.
[20:24] <dayo2> int256: u should report them
[20:24] <int256> yes i will.
[20:24] <dayo2> mustangg: /etc/hostname  ?
[20:25] <mzz> decembre: it has new versions of lots of stuff. So you may want to upgrade for the features in those new versions. I wouldn't upgrade in an attempt to get rid of problems in 8.04 without first checking those problems are known to be fixed in 8.10
[20:25] <dayo2> mustangg: or /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[20:25] <mzz> decembre: that's just me though.
[20:25] <soreau> mzz: Still at it? :)
[20:25] <mustangg> dayo2:  during a fresh install?
[20:25] <int256> i will make a video showing the bug. so that deelopers can understand well.
[20:25] <mzz> soreau: eh, answering basics like this doesn't take much attention
[20:25] <dayo2> mustangg: install from CD?
[20:25] <ramiro> hi
[20:25] <int256> bye
[20:26] <Aladin> und jetzt
[20:26] <mustangg> dayo2: yeah, the alt iso.
[20:26] <dayo2> mustangg: wouldn't there be a moment during the install, where it prompts you for the hostname?
[20:26] <decembre> mzz : thanks
[20:26] <mustangg> dayo2: right. where does that name come from, when it self populates?
[20:27] <decembre> nobody give me reasons to keep lts
[20:27] <decembre> I think I will upgrade
[20:27] <dayo2> mustangg: i'm guessing from the CD. never checked, but it probably has a default hostname file on CD, where the hostname defaults to "ubuntu:
[20:27] <dayo2> "ubuntu"
[20:28] <usaurio> yo
[20:28] <usaurio> sadd
[20:28] <mustangg> decembre: if I've learned anything about linux, it is that the less upgrading needed means more stability. Upgrades are as needed only.
[20:28] <Aladin> habe sowas noch nie cht
[20:28] <fedormorozov> I would like to specify: when I turn my wireless card on, the light flishes 1 time and then nothing else... It detects wifi and asks for password in protected networks, tries to connect but doesn't (neither to unprotected networks)
[20:28] <fedormorozov> sorry, flashes
[20:29] <mustangg> dayo2: that was my expectation but I asked because I've tried a few fresh installs and each time the installer finds my previous hostname. Even after I dd'd my hard drives from sec 0 to sec max.
[20:29] <csaba198> Hi! I' m running now ubuntu liveCD edition, and i' ve a hard drive containing 21 partitions, but in the /dev/ directory it' s counted only till sda15, but i' d like to mount sda16. What can i do? I tried mknod /dev/sda16 b 8 16, but then mount says "/dev/sda16 is not a valid block device".
[20:30] <joshjtl> hi, I'm about to upgrade from 2gb to 4gb ram... do I need to have ubuntu x86-64 installed to be able take advantage of all 4gb?
[20:30] <jim_p> joshjtl, yes
[20:30] <dayo2> mustangg: are u connected to a dhcp server?
[20:31] <joshjtl> jim_p: definitely?
[20:31] <MadsRH> Does anyone know if Compiz 0.8 will make it into Jaunty?
[20:31] <mustangg> dayo2:  yeah, and that nic does have a reserved ip. Could it be grabbing the info because that's the name associated with the mac on the dhcp server?
[20:31] <jado> hi, i'm trying to launch a file.jar with java -jar file.jar but i've got this : "No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it."
[20:32] <jim_p> joshjtl, yea as in all 32bit oses, the os will "see" less ram that the one that it runs on
[20:32] <clayg> whenever i try to shutdown or access any of the parts there, even lock screen or logout, it takes 30 seconds or so and freezes the computer while it waits.  I can still shutdown through command line with no delay but I want ot be able to lock screen if i need to walk out of the room without waiting 30 seconds and basically telling my coworker i dont trust him
[20:32] <dayo2> mustangg: yes. check /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf and find your hostname in there, along with the mac addr and reserved IP
[20:32] <joshjtl> okay thanks jim_p
[20:33] <ramiro> (sorry for cross-asking for whoever is in #vbox as well, but I think it's good to ask it here)
[20:33] <ramiro> I need to run a vbox as another user when ubuntu starts up. no problem placing it in /etc/rc.d and such, but what command must I run? I usually "su - username", type in password, then "VBoxHeadless <...> & exit". how do I automate this? (including the password)
[20:33] <mustangg> dayo2: well I don't have such an animal during the fresh install, but at least you've helped my peace-of-mind. I'd spent a good amount of time fighting problems with fakeraid+ LVM and that seemed like yet another problem to fix...
[20:34] <jim_p> does anyone know how to use quassel?
[20:34] <dayo2> mustangg: something like: host mustanggsbox { hardware ethernet 00:d3:24:f7:82 ; fixed-address 192.168.20.3 ; }
[20:34] <jim_p> i want to get the !@#$%^ timestamp away
[20:35] <burkmat> What would dhcpd do if it received a request with the entire range already leased?
[20:35] <dayo2> mustangg: you could try deleting that entry from your dhcpd.conf, then restart dhcp3-server before installing again
[20:35] <mustangg> dayo2:  my dhcp box is a linux router.
[20:36] <chmac> Anyone using Rhythmbox with the last.fm plugin? I can't seem to play music, not sure where to start...
[20:36] <clayg> whenever i try to shutdown or access any of the parts there, even lock screen or logout, it takes 30 seconds or so and freezes the computer while it waits.  I can still shutdown through command line with no delay but I want ot be able to lock screen if i need to walk out of the room without waiting 30 seconds and basically telling my coworker i dont trust him
[20:36] <mustangg> dayo2: so I guess I'd mistaken assumed (!) that I would be able to find info on this in faq/docs or whereever. :)
[20:37] <jado> hi, i'm trying to launch a file.jar with java -jar file.jar but i've got this : "No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it."
[20:37] <dayo2> mustangg: i see
[20:37] <khunt> is network manager the only prog for 3g?
[20:37] <jim_p> khunt, i hope not! any app that can do dialing and wireless will do
[20:38] <chmac> Ok, so it seems that I need to have a last.fm client installed...
[20:38] <mike12> hey anyone here kno how to remotly open a disc drive on a a computer....its my dads and i want to play a trick  on him since he grounded me
[20:38] <dayo2> mustangg: u could also check #ubuntu-server for more info on this subject
[20:38] <mzz> mike12: if you can ssh in the "eject" commandline utility will probably do the trick
[20:38] <jim_p> mike12, do you have ssh access on that pc?
[20:39] <mike12> no
[20:39] <mzz> mike12: ("man eject")
[20:39] <dayo2> mike12: u're courting more ground-time
[20:39] <khunt> jim_p, you know of one that is lightweight and easy to configure preferably with a data counter. google is not my friend today
[20:39] <mzz> mike12: if you don't have ssh access it's unlikely you can do anything
[20:39] <mike12> o ok
[20:39] <jim_p> mike12, then he is fortified in there
[20:39] <mike12> thaanks anyway
[20:39] <mzz> mike12: (think about it, being able to do that without ssh or equivalent access would be a bug)
[20:39] <jim_p> khunt, network-config maybe?
[20:39] <khunt> hmm
[20:39] <jim_p> khunt, its been some time since i last used it
[20:40] <jim_p> khunt, and wicd may do it too
[20:40] <khunt> or maybe i should install network-manager
[20:40] <Pilot_51> Is there any way to reinstall Ubuntu without formatting?
[20:40] <khunt> and just launch it on demand
[20:41] <jim_p> khunt, dunno. i am against nm use. the counter that you ask for makes things a bit more complex
[20:41] <Pilot_51> I ran into some trouble during upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid (system crash) and even though I can run it it's pretty screwed up
[20:41] <jim_p> Pilot_51, what exactrly is screwed up? xorg?
[20:42] <timposey> on ubuntu install 8.10 I am getting message crc error system halted
[20:42] <khunt> i am using wcid
[20:42] <mustangg> dayo2: thank you for the info. I  think I will do just that when I have a chance.
[20:42] <khunt> but that only does wireless
[20:42] <burkmat> Pilot_51, Well... I guess you could either just install on top of your current installation (would probably be bad), or run `sudo rm -rf /` to delete everything you have and then install on the "clean" partition? oO
[20:42] <dayo2> mustangg: u're welcome :-)
[20:42] <Pilot_51> well for one the quick search in synaptic is grayed
[20:42] <Pilot_51> bunch of errors in log
[20:42] <jim_p> khunt, i am out of ideas then
[20:43] <khunt> thing is i know network-manager works with no config
[20:43] <khunt> just plug it in
[20:43] <khunt> et voila
[20:44] <chumbo> Any one here knows how host a site with Xampp?
[20:44] <kristofer> hello. Does anyone know anything regarding adobe flash 10 and hardware acceleration issues? I'm getting really crappy performance when I go fullscreen. There isnt any difference if I use the "use hardware accell" option or not in the player applet.
[20:44] <Pilot_51> I don't think the update manager is finding updates either
[20:44] <burkmat> chumbo, Just start it up and it's ready to run? It's very plug'n play. :)
[20:45] <chumbo> burkmat, yes its runnig good the problem is any one cant access it.. just me and ppl in my lan
[20:45] <dayo2> see u guys later
[20:45] <Pilot_51> When I boot from the install CD and try to repair packages, it says the system is up-to-date and then asks if I want to proceed with the update
[20:45] <burkmat> chumbo, I'd suspect your problem is NAT. You're behind a router, right?
[20:46] <Pilot_51> When I proceed, it downloads a bunch of packages and then says nothing was updated
[20:46] <mikkelgj> Im curious about the minimal CD. Does that only install a very very limited basic install (which i want), or does it just download the whole default ubuntu installation?
[20:47] <stringchopper> I got a linux kernel from kernel.org.  I imported their key.  They say to do: "gpg --verify linux-2.3.9.tar.gz.sign linux-2.3.9.tar.gz"... but they don't give a "sign" file.  Do I create the sign. file myself with their key?
[20:47] <clayg> whenever i try to shutdown or access any of the parts there, even lock screen or logout, it takes 30 seconds or so and freezes the computer while it waits.  I can still shutdown through command line with no delay but I want ot be able to lock screen if i need to walk out of the room without waiting 30 seconds and basically telling my coworker i dont trust him
[20:48] <zand3r> Hi all... I've performed a CLI install using the Alternative CD and subsequently installed xorg and openbox however there's no xorg.conf being generated. The following URL implies that people suspect this is an error but I'm wondering if there is some way to automatically generate this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043277
[20:48] <Pilot_51> So... Any way to reinstall over an existing installation as with Windows or is a format absolutely necessary?
[20:49] <z1pp3r> Im curious about the minimal CD. Does it only install a very very limited basic install (which i want), or does it just download the whole default ubuntu installation? The minimalCD page isnt very clear
[20:49] <shinagalated> anyone know what's going on with the new notification system in Jaunty?  Is that still going to be in Jaunty
[20:49] <bmorris> I have a network drive mounted using samba but I'm running into problems.. I get a permission denied error  every time I try and save a file.  I can open them fine though.  When I do an ls -l in the directory it says that I have all the correct permissions.. Does anybody know what could be going on?
[20:50] <kristofer> hmm... From googling it seems everyone seems to have bad performance in flash full screen unless they are equipped with a really fast computer. :(
[20:50] <z1pp3r> bmorris, maybe the samba server doesn't allow anyone write access to the share?
[20:51] <r00tintheb0x> Anyone have any experience w/Oracle ODBC?
[20:51] <bmorris> z1pp3r, how would I check that?  I have ssh access to the server
[20:52] <diginux> bmorris: is the share mounted as read only?
[20:53] <rakudave> !ot | r00tintheb0x
[20:53] <z1pp3r> bmorris, i haven't played around with samba for quite some time, but i believe its specified in the config file where you specified the share in the first place.
[20:53] <OsamaK> Hello, how can I build an up-to-date language for Ubuntu? I googled for that, and found nothing.
[20:53] <diginux> Jussel: whats up?
[20:53] <bmorris> diginux, I don't believe so
[20:53] <diginux> bmorris: can you creat a new file on the share?
[20:53] <Jussel> diginux: hey :)
[20:54] <Jussel> diginux: Updated Ubuntu to 8.10
[20:54] <adaptr> bmorris: read only  = yes/true/1
[20:54] <kristofer> Ok.. the solution for good fullscreen flash performance is... virtualbox.. that is insane. :)
[20:54] <Jussel> diginux: But still no sound through my Headphone
[20:54] <bmorris> diginux, no
[20:54] <z1pp3r> lol kristofer =)
[20:55] <kristofer> right...
[20:55] <diginux> Jussel: ugghhh, I am out of ideas then :( try posting to the forums, make sure to include the output of lspci
[20:55] <Jussel> diginux: ok thanks for your time / help :)
[20:55] <kristofer> Maybe it would work to do a WINE container for a windows firefox plugin ...
[20:55] <diginux> bmorris: did you mount from the command line or use somethign like thunar?
[20:55] <Xintruder> which command shows me how much ram is consumed?
[20:56] <^hashbang^> free
[20:56] <z1pp3r> kristofer, worth a try, now you know what to spend your weekend on =)
[20:56] <diginux> kristofer: i remember the einstein@home windows binary under wine ran faster than the native linux binary
[20:56] <bmorris> diginux, I have it in my fstab
[20:56] <anisfarhana> greetings
[20:56] <diginux> Xintruder: sudo apt-get install htop
[20:56] <z1pp3r> Xintruder, you can use htop
[20:56] <kristofer> diginux: which gcc version did you use?
[20:56] <bmorris> I'm looking at the share in my smb.conf file and it says that it's public and writeable
[20:56] <diginux> bmorris: copy and paste the line
[20:56] <dmphotography> Does anyone know of a program that does a more detailed report of Network History like System Monitor?
[20:56] <Xintruder> isn't there a default installed program to do so?
[20:57] <diginux> kristofer: it was a non opensource binary
[20:57] <anisfarhana> i have ispconfig installed with ubuntu , anyone can tell me where is server stored the incoming/outgoing mail from the server ?
[20:57] <bmorris> diginux, //192.168.0.101/workspace  /home/bmorris/workspace  cifs users,gid=1000,uid=1000,username=bmorris,password=password
[20:57] <z1pp3r> Xintruder, think "top" is installed by default, but it doesnt have pretty fancy colors like htop =P
[20:57] <dmphotography> Mainly that keeps track of daily bandwidth ussage for a web server.
[20:57] <diginux> bmorris: and those gid and uids are those of bmorris?
[20:57] <rakudave> Xintruder: "free -m"
[20:57] <Xintruder> does top show me how much ram is free, and how much is used?
[20:57] <kristofer> diginux: I suppose gcc doesn't optimize as well as visual c++ does out of the box. a poor built might suck.
[20:57] <bmorris> yep
[20:57] <dkg> Is there a difference in installing Intrepid from cd or upgrading from hardy?
[20:58] <dayo2> dmphotography: munin
[20:58] <z1pp3r> Xintruder, as rakudave said, "free -m" is probably better for just seeing ram usage
[20:58] <kristofer> diginux: Suns (non gcc-compatible) compiler is said to do great code though (even for linux).
[20:58] <diginux> bmorris: what are the perms on /home/bmorris/workspace?
[20:58] <dmphotography> dayo2: Thanks!
[20:58] <nomasteryoda|w> dkg, speed of installing is much faster
[20:58] <nomasteryoda|w> in my experience
[20:58] <dayo2> dmphotography: u're welcome. :-)
[20:59] <bmorris> diginux, full read/write/execute
[20:59] <Xintruder> htop, does it give me results once like top, or keep monitoring untill i stop it?
[20:59] <Guest18209> salve a tutti
[20:59] <thehook> got network issues anyone? http://www.snotr.com/video/1084
[20:59] <diginux> bmorris: so its 777 ?
[20:59] <bmorris> yeah
[20:59] <z1pp3r> Im curious about the minimal CD. Does it only install a very very limited basic install (which i want), or does it just download the whole default ubuntu installation? The minimalCD page isnt very clear
[20:59] <diginux> bmorris: have you tried chmod -R 777 /home/bmorris/workspace just to make sure?
[20:59] <carpeliam|pidgin> !sound
[21:00] <dkg> nomasteryoda: other than that, is it just as safe to install hardy then upgrade? I've tried to burn intrepid 3 times, with no joy...  I'd prefer a "clean" install but is an upgrade prety much the same? (any disadvantages?)
[21:00] <diginux> dkg: i do upgrade all the time, never have a problem
[21:01] <bmorris> diginux, hmm I can create a file from the command line
[21:01] <dkg> diginux: thanks. That's what I'll do :)
[21:01] <bmorris> When I try and save one in eclipse I get permission denied though
[21:01] <r00tintheb0x> rakudave I mean installing ODBC on Ubuntu to connect to an Oracle Database.
[21:01] <diginux> bmorris: are you running eclipse as a normal user? can you edit a newly created file from the command line using a text editor liek nano?
[21:01] <r00tintheb0x> That does have to do with Ubuntu
[21:01] <thehook> z1pp3r: i have no idea my self, but can i please have the link for the page?
[21:01] <diginux> dkg: enjoy
[21:02] <rakudave> r00tintheb0x: sorry ^^
[21:02] <z1pp3r> thehook, sure, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:02] <bmorris> diginux, I can edit/save a file using nano/vim/whatever but if I open up the file in gedit or eclipse I can't save
[21:02] <diginux> bmorris: so you can edit *already existing* files using nano ?
[21:03] <z1pp3r> thehook, maybe it's more clear to you than me...
[21:03] <bmorris> diginux, I can create them using nano as well
[21:03] <thehook> z1pp3r: no its not :s but i'm afraid it looks like it just downloads everything..
[21:03] <rakudave> !oracle | r00tintheb0x, ok then
[21:03] <thehook> but someone here shuld now
[21:03] <z1pp3r> ugh
[21:03] <z1pp3r> hehe yeah, thats what i figured
[21:03] <z1pp3r> not much luck yet though =/
[21:04] <diginux> bmorris: but you can edit already existing files from the command line, right?
[21:04] <thehook> z1pp3r: you know, if noone knows I just gonna test it :P
[21:04] <bmorris> umm let me check
[21:04] <r00tintheb0x> rakudave, its okay.
[21:05] <thehook> give me a couple of minutes ok z1pp3r ?
[21:05] <bmorris> diginux, actually no that gives me an error as well
[21:05] <z1pp3r> thehook, that would be pretty cool =). I probably could do that as well, but then i'd have to backup stuff and i'm too lazy to do all that for nothing =)
[21:05] <hamdi> dy
[21:05] <z1pp3r> thehook, sure thing
[21:05] <hamdi> hi
[21:05] <diginux> bmorris: ok, sounds like you have uid/guid mismatch
[21:05] <Jerusalem420> !seen hashbang
[21:05] <Jerusalem420> ^hashbang you around?
[21:05] <diginux> bmorris: id do an ls -l and look at the perms and ownership diff between already existing files and files you just crated
[21:06] <bmorris> diginux, here are the two lines from my ls -l  test33.txt I just created and web was already there -rwxrw-rw- 1 bmorris bmorris   5 2009-02-12 16:00 test33.txt
[21:06] <bmorris> drwxrwxrwx 7 bmorris bmorris   0 2009-02-02 09:53 web
[21:07] <meshuggah> anybody know an easy and great way to add a 3rd harddisk in a computer case that only have 2 slots for them?
[21:07] <diginux> bmorris: web is a dir not a file
[21:07] <bmorris> woops one moment
[21:08] <diginux> bmorris: is this samba server running on linux or windows?
[21:08] <guntbert> meshuggah: please ask in #hardware
[21:08] <bmorris> diginux, ubuntu 8.10
[21:08] <dury> hi there all :) how is it going?
[21:08] <bantu_> hey peeps, Ok. I need help with the mknod command
[21:08] <diginux> bmorris: why not just use nfs?
[21:08] <dury> tomorrow I'm going to buy a new box which motherboard you suggest guys 32 or 64 bit
[21:09] <thehook> z1pp3r: its installing now, obviously its a lot more to download so i dont know anything yet :P but what are you gonna use it for if i may ask
[21:09] <meshuggah> guntbert : thank
[21:09] <guntbert> !#ubuntu | dury
[21:09] <morfdor> Hi everyone. Ive been happily using ubuntu for a year now but decided its time to format and reinstall.. I have my home and / root in different partitions. How can i install ubuntu on the same root partition and keep on using my same home partition without deleting its files? Thanks
[21:09] <bantu_> My live c.d. doesn't create the eth0 device node
[21:09] <guntbert> meshuggah: good luck :)
[21:09] <bmorris> diginux, the little I know about samba is more than I know about nfs :P
[21:09] <bmorris> ohh I think I got it
[21:10] <bantu_> I can't get the major minor part
[21:10] <Blatz> Hello, when I try to get some updates with the update manager, I get "Could not download all repository indexes" here is more specific error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/117441/
[21:10] <bmorris> stupid of me.. the actual files were only readable and I didn't see that because everything in the top level directory that I was looking at were directories
[21:10] <bantu_> Here's the command I write
[21:10] <thehook> morfdor: Hi, that would be no problem at all.. In the installer you just choose to format the /root partition and make sure it does not format the /home
[21:10] <diginux> bmorris: samba can be a pain, nfs is super easy
[21:10] <cosset> руские?
[21:10] <bmorris> thanks a lot for all of your help!
[21:10] <bantu_> mknod -c /dev/eth0
[21:10] <bmorris> works perfectly now
[21:11] <bantu_> Help please?
[21:11] <thehook> morfdor: should be pretty straight forward, just download the desktop iso and burn it, then boot from it, then choose manual partitioning
[21:11] <morfdor> thehook so i can keep on using my same home parition or will another one have to be created and ill have to transfer over the files from the old home parition? thanks
[21:12] <thehook> you can keep the same partition yes :)
[21:13] <thehook> morfdor: yes, but i would recommend to use a different username on the second install just to make sure none of the setting are kept from the last install
[21:13] <guntbert> Blatz: are you on 8.04 or on 8.10?
[21:13] <linux_guy> can i 'restart' the panel?  only bits and pieces are showing up correctly
[21:13] <cambazz> hello. how do I set which modules to load at boot - or which modules not to?
[21:13] <cambazz> I dont want to load the pci_hotplug module
[21:14] <cambazz> but /lib/modules file has no reference to it
[21:14] <clayg> whenever i try to shutdown or access any of the parts there, even lock screen or logout, it takes 30 seconds or so and freezes the computer while it waits.  I can still shutdown through command line with no delay but I want ot be able to lock screen if i need to walk out of the room without waiting 30 seconds and basically telling my coworker i dont trust him
[21:14] <Blatz> ﻿guntbert: 8.04
[21:15] <mcstinky> hey all, how do I install a package with a dependency error; the installed version I have is too new, it requires an older one
[21:15] <smultron> can you only have 1 extended partition? can you setup all 4 to be 'extended'?
[21:15] <z1pp3r> thehook, okay. Well, my laptop is kindda old and the default installation is too beefy to run smoothly. I love the dpkg package system, but i'm not very fond of debian anymore. So i was hoping i could customize my ubuntu install to only include the bare minimum
[21:16] <thehook> z1pp3r: i understand! i love it too :) hope it is just installing the bare minimum now, cause i've been considering to install a "customized" version my self :)
[21:16] <guntbert> Blatz: it seems, you tried to add a "wrong" CD to your sources.lst. Do you need the CD?
[21:16] <meshuggah> why when I install packages, i dont get a beautiful icon in the menu? i dont even know where they install
[21:17] <z1pp3r> thehook, yeah, that would be great if that was possible
[21:18] <Blatz> ﻿guntbert: I don't really know what "wrong" CD addtion would be.  No I guess I don't need the CD
[21:18] <thehook> z1pp3r: what I did on the very early versions of ubuntu was using the server iso, but now its pretty different kernels and stuff..
[21:18] <guntbert> meshuggah: for the simple cases you can use Applications/Add-Remove..., that tells you what and where...
[21:18] <thehook> z1pp3r: 96% of installing the base system it says
[21:19] <z1pp3r> must be pretty minimal, or you have an awesome internet connection =P
[21:19] <meshuggah> like : i installed angband, zangband, cpuid, any many many others, but they arent on the menu
[21:19] <meshuggah> i know they locate i think in /usr
[21:19] <nsadmin> can I do things with upstart like say "sometimes I have no network on boot, when that happens don't start things that need it"
[21:19] <Blatz> ﻿guntbert: what should I do to resolve the issue?
[21:19] <dury> I know >	[#ubuntu] dury: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[21:19] <Blatz> ﻿﻿guntbert: edit souces.list?
[21:19] <Digitalhighway> I can't edit my sources.list file
[21:20] <thehook> z1pp3r: just a regular 4mbps
[21:20] <guntbert> Blatz: if you don't need it you can disable it in System/Adminstration/SoftwareSources (If I remember correctly)
[21:20] <dury> just want an opinion that's all
[21:20] <dmphotography> I formated an external harddrive to ext3, which is showing to be /dev/sdc1 . . how do I access it to add files?
[21:20] <nsadmin> donuts are good! want another opinion?
[21:20] <guntbert> dury: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[21:21] <Blatz> ﻿guntbert: Is this error keeping me from online updates?
[21:21] <Digitalhighway> how do you chance the permission of a source.list file???
[21:21] <guntbert> Blatz: I don't know, sorry
[21:21] <Digitalhighway> I am using pico in ubuntu 8.04
[21:21] <nsadmin> in what way? you use chmod (info coreutils, look at file permissions)
[21:22] <z1pp3r> thehook, you were never asked which packages you wanted? What do you think would happen if it did not have internet connection, would it even complete?
[21:22] <guntbert> !who | nsadmin ;-)
[21:22] <thehook> z1pp3r: yep, seems to be what we want ;) i got a list of things i want to install now debian style, but unfortunately i cant use the arrow keys in the vm, but i can see different server stuff and edubuntu desktop :P
[21:22] <thehook> z1pp3r: and kde desktop
[21:22] <z1pp3r> uuuh
[21:22] <nsadmin> ok...
[21:22] <z1pp3r> that sounds very nice
[21:23] <thehook> z1pp3r: i agree!
[21:23] <dmphotography> N E one?
[21:23] <nsadmin> anyone who knows:can I do things with upstart like say "sometimes I have no network on boot, when that happens don't start things that need it"
[21:23] <Digitalhighway> Nsadmin:I want to add some commands to the source.list file and save. ...but I can't save it because of an permission error
[21:23] <Blatz> ﻿Digitalhighway: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:23] <ExAstris> Hi all. I'm having some issues with Madwifi drivers. I built madwifi-hal (10.5.6), latest build, and set it up. It was working yestarday. I have a Macbook Pro, with a built in Altheros wireless card. The wireless device shows up in dmesg | grep ath and lsmod | grep ath.
[21:23] <meshuggah> guntbert : do you know a program for ubuntu that is like cpu-z?
[21:23] <ExAstris> However, the wireless card does not appear in iwconfig, and I cannot use it.
[21:23] <ExAstris> Any ideas on why?
[21:24] <Digitalhighway> sudo do exactly?
[21:24] <nsadmin> Digitalhighway what user are you logged in as?
[21:24] <nsadmin> perhaps the user cannot edit the file because it doesn't own it
[21:24] <yomm> I replaced my 4 300gig SATA driver with four 1TB drives , and ubuntu only recognizes 2 out of four drives , fdisk gives strange 'sd' output and gparted doesn't see the drives either , I have multiple '/dev/sd*'s but i cannot access those 2 drives ...
[21:24] <Digitalhighway> i am assuming root
[21:24] <z1pp3r> Digitalhighway, 'sudo' = do something as super user (root)
[21:24] <Digitalhighway> ok
[21:24] <guntbert> meshuggah: sorry, what does cpu-z do?
[21:24] <ExAstris> Additionally, there's a wlan module active, which I cannot remove - it says it is in use when I do a modprobe -r
[21:25] <Digitalhighway> i will try the sudo command thanks
[21:25] <thehook> Digitalhighway: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:25] <meshuggah> guntbert : it say everything you have in your computer : cpu, motherboard, ram
[21:25] <Digitalhighway> gk?
[21:26] <nsadmin> Digitalhighway what editor do you like to use?
[21:26] <pisecx> UUID=a9c5ac1f-ec9a-4371-b67f-161acc8d4c42 /home/z/Work   ntfs   user,rw,auto,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=1000,exec 0       1
[21:26] <meshuggah> guntbert : bios, every material things
[21:26] <pisecx> How can I make this folder 774, for example?
[21:26] <ExAstris> Can anyone help me?
[21:26] <nsadmin> perhaps you can sudo (that editor) /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:26] <pisecx> even chmod don't work
[21:26] <Digitalhighway> pico
[21:26] <guntbert> meshuggah: you want sysinfo
[21:26] <nsadmin> pisecx why doesn't it work?
[21:26] <pisecx> seems like I have to edit fstab, but has no idea what option should I add/change
[21:26] <guntbert> !info sysinfo | meshuggah
[21:27] <djhash> yomm: does bios see all four drives?
[21:27] <pisecx> nsadmin: it works, but apache has no access to it
[21:27] <meshuggah> guntbert : ok, thank you :)
[21:27] <lyhana8> hi, why when i try to do `kate ./myfile` as root i got this error :
[21:27] <lyhana8> kate: cannot connect to X server :0
[21:27] <guntbert> meshuggah: np :)
[21:27] <pisecx> nsadmin: apache manual says it need access for All
[21:27] <pisecx> nsadmin: in terms of file system permissions
[21:27] <Digitalhighway> it worked
[21:27] <pisecx> nsadmin: but folder has access 770
[21:27] <Digitalhighway> thanks
[21:27] <nsadmin> lyhana8: try ssh root@localhost
[21:27] <nsadmin> instead of su
[21:28] <guntbert> meshuggah: you will find it in applications/system tools :)
[21:28] <meshuggah> guntbert : because i want to know which kind of rambus I have, rdram800 but i am not sure.....i need more than 256mb!! :)
[21:28] <z1pp3r> 256mb should be enough for everybody
[21:28] <z1pp3r> =P
[21:28] <lyhana8> nsadmin: do a ssh on my own laptop o_O ?
[21:28] <meshuggah> it is not enough here
[21:28] <meshuggah> :)
[21:28] <pisecx> nsadmin: maybe umask? it is not 007
[21:29] <mcstinky> can anybody here tell me if wine will run under the UNR?
[21:29] <thehook> mcstinky: UNR?
[21:30] <mcstinky> ubuntu netbook remix
[21:30] <thehook> netbook remix?
[21:30] <mcstinky> yarr =D
[21:30] <thehook> yes it will :)
[21:30] <waltao> OI
[21:30] <mcstinky> great, thanks
[21:30] <nsadmin> lyhana8 yes, the ssh connection forwards x (at least it does under debian) then you can use gui thingys
[21:30] <thehook> np
[21:30] <Hieronymus> Hoi.
[21:30] <ExAstris> I would appreciate some help...
[21:30] <Hieronymus> Hallo?
[21:30] <Oni> Does BSD work on Ubuntu yet?
[21:31] <nsadmin> the important part is that the process that runs the x server is wrapped in a ssh-agent
[21:31] <z1pp3r> Oni, ehhh?
[21:31] <meshuggah> guntbert : i am installing it now....so i have another question again
[21:31] <Hieronymus> I just entered a different room. I tried to type there.
[21:31] <Hieronymus> And it appeared here.
[21:31] <Oni> FreeBSD, does it work on Ubuntu yet?
[21:31] <lyhana8> Oni: BSD as FreeBSD ?
[21:31] <meshuggah> guntbert : do you know a program like acid music, but for ubuntu?
[21:31] <Hieronymus> How's that.
[21:31] <lyhana8> Oni: it's an OS by himself
[21:31] <z1pp3r> Oni, Ubuntu is an OS. FreeBSD is an OS. None of them work on one another
[21:31] <Oni> Yeah but does it work on Unbuntu
[21:31] <^hashbang^> Oni: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/comparing_linux_and_freebsd?page=0%2C0
[21:32] <z1pp3r> except for maybe through a VM like virtualbox
[21:32] <z1pp3r> Oni, you're not making any sense
[21:32] <Oni> Can i use WINE to install BSD on Ubuntu
[21:32] <z1pp3r> no
[21:32] <Oni> Or do I have to use WUBI?
[21:32] <meshuggah> oni : ??
[21:32] <lyhana8> Oni: try virtualbox
[21:32] <ExAstris> Oni, freeBSD is an operating system. It runs your computer for you. Ubuntu is an operating system as well. You can't have both at the same time.
[21:32] <thehook> hehehe, have you tried running windows in linux? natively of course :p
[21:32] <^hashbang^> Oni. Dude, your joking right? wine = windows, BSD = unix, and ubuntu = linux
[21:32] <ExAstris> (at least, not booted at the same time, except via VM)
[21:32] <Necrogamemaster> I've already registered why am I still here?
[21:32] <Oni> yeah I'm joking :(
[21:33] <guntbert> meshuggah: have you synaptic installed? it has a comprehensive search, several categories...
[21:33] <waltao> BR-OFFICE COMO INSTALAR NO LINUX
[21:33] <^hashbang^> Oni: google is your friend
[21:33] <djhash> i'm watching southpark.. this chat here is much funnier
[21:33] <^hashbang^> djhash: lol
[21:33] <djhash> thats going in my signature
[21:33] <Pinkopf> Hey! Would someone like to help an idiot out with some sound issues? Only OSS seems to work, nothing else; and from what little experience I have, OSS sucks. I've looks at forums and usually that helps, but I can't seem to get this ALSA or PulseAudio thing to work
[21:33] <meshuggah> guntbert : lol...yeah...but i prefer direct comment/opinion/suggestion directly from the keyboard  of a living animal
[21:34] <eeyore> hi all
[21:34] <^hashbang^> djhash: =)~
[21:34] <thehook> Oni: can you please explain what youre meaning?
[21:34] <Oni> I was joking lol
[21:34] <Guest79574> hiya
[21:34] <z1pp3r> thehook, i think he was kidding =)
[21:34] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 and I'm using the distributed nvidia drivers - however, I'm getting a greenish checkerboard effect across the screen almost as a secondary layer - does anybody know what could be causing this?
[21:34] <thehook> Oni: thats good i was starting to be worried there for a while :P
[21:34] <z1pp3r> thehook, btw thx for testing out the minimal cd, i'll give it a go during the weekend
[21:34] <guntbert> meshuggah: understandable, but this is a *very* busy support channel, try it in #ubuntu-offtopic   :)
[21:34] <Oni> Ubuntu is Lunix in my opinion anyway
[21:34] <ExAstris> I would appreciate someone helping me with my wifi issue. I have a Macbook Pro, bout a year and a half old, and have switched to madwifi as the ath9k drivers were incredibly slow. It was working yestarday, after I built and configured the madwifi modules, but today it is not. THe devices appear under lsmod and dmesg, but not under iwconfig. Any ideas?
[21:34] <clayg> whenever i try to shutdown or access any of the parts there, even lock screen or logout, it takes 30 seconds or so and freezes the computer while it waits.  I can still shutdown through command line with no delay but I want ot be able to lock screen if i need to walk out of the room without waiting 30 seconds and basically telling my coworker i dont trust him
[21:35] <thehook> z1pp3r: no problem ;)
[21:35] <^hashbang^> Oni: I said that already =)
[21:35] <Oni> haha
[21:35] <^hashbang^> Oni. Dude, your joking right? wine = windows, BSD = unix, and ubuntu = linux
[21:35] <Oni> hashbang chill out
[21:35] <lyhana8> nsadmin: i do a `xhost +` to enable access
[21:35] <Oni> I said that I was joking like 5 times now
[21:35] <guntbert> !ot
[21:35] <^hashbang^> Oni: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:35] <Oni> no u ^hashbang^
[21:36] <ExAstris> Oni: Yes, but this isn't the place to joke x.x
[21:36] <meshuggah> guntbert : sorry, i will shut the fuck up, and only ask things, when i searched google or synaptic...sorry, i do not want to disturb this great channel :))
[21:36] <^hashbang^> welcome to my /ignore list Oni
[21:36] <Oni> no u ^hashbang^
[21:36] <meshuggah> ?
[21:36] <Oni> I got apt-get working on OpenSolaris
[21:36] <guntbert> !language | meshuggah :)
[21:36] <jove> Hello All, does anyone know how to read the .XML file or convert it to readable ?
[21:36] <Oni> currently porting all the Ubuntu repositories
[21:37] <Oni> It's an OS called Nexenta
[21:37] <meshuggah> guntbert : sorry for my offensive language agaisnt myself
[21:37] <Oni> Look it up it's over 9000 times better than ubuntu
[21:37] <^hashbang^> !xml
[21:37] <nickrud> !ot | Oni
[21:37] <Oni> no u nickrud
[21:37] <meshuggah> guntbert : i am french-speaking...gimme a chance! :)
[21:37] <nickrud> Oni, don't start this up again, with someone new. Just stay on topic, please
[21:38] <ExAstris> Ah, it appears to be working nao. No clue what I did, though x.x I hope I don't have this issue when I reboot again
[21:38] <ExAstris> x.x
[21:38] <jove> does anyone know how to read the .XML file or convert it to readable ?
[21:38] <guntbert> meshuggah: its not for me, but we have children here :)
[21:38] <Oni> no u guntbert
[21:38] <Greenstuff> hi
[21:38] <guntbert> Oni: ??
[21:38] <Oni> What are the benefits of Ubuntu over Vista
[21:38] <Pinkopf> I'm sure you get this "omgnosoundaieeee" all the time, but still, is there anyone who would like to school a lesser being?
[21:38] <Oni> seriously, tell me
[21:39] <nickrud> Oni, again, not a support question. Meta questions go on #ubuntu-offtopic . Last warning
[21:39] <lyhana8> Oni: you own your PC
[21:39] <burkmat> Pinkopf, What sound device?
[21:39] <jove> does anyone know how to read the .XML file or convert it to readable ?
[21:39] <Greenstuff> less viruses
[21:39] <Oni> you own it anyway, just not the software
[21:39] <meshuggah> guntbert : children ear this kind of language every days, by their parents/friends, this kind of language exist...:)....we are off-topic here.....
[21:39] <^hashbang^> !ot | meshuggah
[21:39] <Greenstuff> works faster
[21:39] <Oni> OK I AM SORRY FOR TALKING ABOUT UBUNTU IN #UBUNTU
[21:39] <meshuggah> lol
[21:39] <Oni> faggots
[21:40] <meshuggah> children children...
[21:40] <thehook> jove: search synaptic for xml reader
[21:40]  * burkmat palms his face.
[21:40] <meshuggah> stop fighting...
[21:40] <ExAstris> :O
[21:40] <lyhana8> Oni: you control waht it do
[21:40] <ExAstris> Too bad you couldn've done that while he was here.
[21:40] <^hashbang^> nice nickrud, ty
[21:40] <Pinkopf> I have both a SB Audigy 4 PCI card and an onboard thing on this new Asus mobo. Err... one moment
[21:40] <ExAstris> woulda been funnier, that way.
[21:41] <nickrud> ExAstris, I have high hopes that most return to rationality
[21:41] <nsadmin> is there no one familiar with upstart?
[21:41] <lyhana8> Oni: Linux is way of life
[21:41] <jove> thehook, is it in ubuntu or search in the internet ?
[21:41] <Greenstuff> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:41] <Greenstuff> dammit
[21:41] <thehook> jove: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[21:41] <meshuggah> greenstuff : /join
[21:41]  * nsadmin slasses Greenstuff 
[21:42] <Greenstuff> yea i know
[21:42] <Greenstuff> mised the /
[21:42] <meshuggah> :)
[21:42]  * nsadmin forgot the h
[21:42] <Greenstuff> cya
[21:42] <mib_1u1l0dz6> hello, I know its not offically Ubuntu, but I installed gOS to my usb drive. When I load it, everytime it asks me what language and if i want to launch the persistent version or live. Is there a way to tell it english and persistent with out a prompt?
[21:42] <serge48876> hi, how much video ram is recommened running ubuntu?
[21:42] <serge48876> for
[21:42] <mib_1u1l0dz6> i have found a syslinux.cfg file that looks like what i want to edit i'm just unsure how
[21:43] <yoyit2> how do i get spellcheck to work on OO writer?
[21:43] <waltao_> oi
[21:43] <guntbert> yoyit2: ask in #openoffice.org
[21:44] <yoyit2> guntbert: thx
[21:44] <unop> serge48876, depends on what you want to do.. 128MB at the very minimum is what i would guess
[21:44] <serge48876> how much videoram is required for running ubuntu?
[21:44] <Pinkopf> I have an Asus P5Q-Deluxe. Asus support says Realtek ALC1200
[21:44] <Pinkopf> So... I have that. :P
[21:45] <nsadmin> if you just do 2d, enough to store one frame at your max chosen res
[21:45] <korogiannos> What can I use to resize my ntfs partition from within a hardy live cd boot? (Tried gparted, and despite having the option to do so, doesn't)
[21:45] <nsadmin> korogiannos perhaps it would be easier to resize it from windows?
[21:45] <korogiannos> it's XP, not vista :(
[21:45] <yoyit2> guntbert: theres like no one on that channel
[21:46] <nsadmin> still you should be able to resize it
[21:46] <korogiannos> ﻿nsadmin: or are there other, free, tools to do that in XP?
[21:46] <stefg> serge48876: it's not the OS needing videoram, but the screen and a given resolution. i tun xubuntu ona n old laptop with an 8MB ati video adapter
[21:46] <jove> thehook, after upgrade xml from synaptic, where should I launch it ?
[21:46] <Pinkopf> Ubuntu has detected a bunch of devices though, so I guess it has the drivers down
[21:46] <nsadmin> but you could go for the gusto and back up the whole partition, delete, make new (smaller), restore
[21:47] <Pinkopf> It's just that I'm limited to using OSS
[21:47] <Improv> If I accidentally remove something in /etc/init.d/ how do I get it back?
[21:47] <korogiannos> ﻿nsadmin: any other options (from within linux)?
[21:47] <diginux> Improv: reinstall the program you deleted
[21:48] <Improv> diginux: I already tried removing and reinstalling openvpn, and the init script did not come back.
[21:48] <titan_ark> hey :)
[21:48] <nsadmin> korogiannos I dunno what can do it
[21:48] <serge48876> yoyo clickme
[21:48] <diginux> Improv: apt-get reconfigure openvpn maybe?
[21:48] <thehook> jove: wich one did you install? you should find it in the menu
[21:48] <stefg> Improv: by restoring the backup you didn't make :-)
[21:48] <jove> thehook xml and xml2
[21:48] <korogiannos> ﻿nsadmin: tanks all the same.  I'll go google for a while :)
[21:49] <Improv> apt-get doesn't have a reconfigure option
[21:49] <titan_ark> hey am facing trouble with the 8.10 installation. can any1 gimme  suggestions?
[21:49] <diginux> Improv: dpkg-reconfigure openvpn, sorry :)
[21:49] <the_real_funzo> does this guide work on 8.10? http://www.howtoforge.com/compile-rtorrent-from-svn-ubuntu-8.04-hardy-heron
[21:49] <DVA5912> I'm running Apache2 is their anyway to make its properties specificaly php to run in my local folder? so i can develop before puting on the site?
[21:49] <Improv> diginux: That didn't do it either
[21:49] <hatter243> titan_ark, I didn't see a question there, what's your question?
[21:49] <jove>  thehook:  xml and xml2
[21:49] <thehook> jove: try install "liferea" :)
[21:49] <Pinkopf> I tried following some guides on the forums for reinstalling ALSA and stuff like that, but nothing seems to work
[21:50] <diginux> Improv: command failed or it didnt bring back the init.d script?
[21:50] <Improv> diginux: It didn't bring back the init.d script
[21:50] <anisfarhana> anyone have experience using ispconfig here ?
[21:50] <thehook> anisfarhana: yep
[21:50] <diginux> Improv: you sure openvpn is the right pacakge? maybe thast the client and there is an openvpn-server ?
[21:50] <stefg> !info rtorrent | the_real_funzo
[21:51] <titan_ark> hatter hey! i am a n00b just tryin out linux. am on an xp sp3 system with 256MB RAM. during installation i get stuck at a black screen
[21:51] <jove> thehook: after install liferea, where does it reside and how launch
[21:51] <diginux> Improv: hrmmm, i have no idea why it wouldnt come back
[21:51] <Improv> diginux: Well, dpkg-query knows about /etc/init.d/openvpn ... hmm
[21:51] <jken146> Hello.  I am customising a live CD and I want to change the default bookmarks in Firefox.  I can't find the file I need to edit.  Does anyone know?
[21:51] <diginux> Improv: thats really weird
[21:51] <refdef> Hey guys im trying to reinstall ubuntu 8.10 and continue using my same home partition. Im on the install cd right now and manually se the partitions bu now that it asked me to choose a username i dont know if i should choose the same user/pass or different ones because i am afraid of that users docs being overwrittrn.  Can anyone who has done this before help me out? Thanks
[21:51] <diginux> Improv: is it in /etc/rc2.d?
[21:51] <hatter243> titan_ark, are you live booting or running it within XP?
[21:52] <thehook> jove: im not 100% sure but i think it resides under applications -> accesiories or office
[21:52] <the_real_funzo> stefg, im installing from source, or i tried because i had problems with the one in synaptics. #rtorrent tipped me about installing from source
[21:52] <the_real_funzo> but that guide didn't work :S
[21:52] <Improv> diginux: The symlink is there, yes
[21:52] <Digitalhighway> deb http://hydr0g3n.free.fr/ubuntu/ hardy main
[21:52] <thehook> jove: but just check all to be sure, it might be named feed reader or something :)
[21:52] <DVA5912> I'm running Apache2 is their anyway to make its properties specificaly php to run in my local folder? so i can develop before puting on the site?
[21:52] <Improv> diginux: But the /etc/init.d it points to does not exist.
[21:52] <titan_ark> hatter243, i 1st tried installing using the "in windows" installation but that gave me an error saying i am 3 MB short on RAM so i tried a complete installation
[21:52] <Improv> well, the /etc/init.d/openvpn I mean
[21:52] <diginux> Improv: well damn
[21:53] <nickrud> refdef, you can use whatever user name/password you like. The first user created in your original install is user 1000; the new user will also be user 1000. You will need to change the home folder name if you use a different user name
[21:53] <unop> DVA5912, sure, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_userdir.html is one way
[21:53] <jove> thehook, llI am still lookin gor liferea to insta
[21:53] <hatter243> titan_ark, so it was able to boot from the CD and then after the install it gives you a black screen?
[21:53] <diginux> Improv: do you have another box you can install it on then steal teh script?
[21:53] <Improv> diginux: I think it's confused when it offers to stop openvpn before reconfiguring.
[21:53] <jken146> refdef: It will be really easy if you pick the same user name.  password doesn't matter.  Choose manual partitioning and make sure you get the right partition for /home
[21:53] <nickrud> refdef, to be clear, if you use the same username there's very little chance for problems
[21:53] <Improv> diginux: Not handy - this is my only ubuntu box
[21:53] <stefg> refdef: you can choose the same username. internally the users are reperesented by numbers (the uid), which willa laways be 1000 for the first user installed... don't worry, if you don't format the drive, your files are safe and can be chowned if necessary
[21:54] <diginux> Improv: whats you email addy, ill install it and send the script to you
[21:54] <diginux> Improv: or i can pastebin it too, nm
[21:54] <Improv> diginux: I mainly use a mix of Fedora and OpenBSD, but Ubuntu is more appropriate for this project...
[21:54] <titan_ark> hatter243, yes it boots and starts copyin the files i guess, and then it reaches a black screen and i can move the mouse pointer thats it
[21:54] <Improv> diginux: That'd be great
[21:54] <titan_ark> i dont even reach the screen to enter the log in etc
[21:54] <thehook> jove: press Alt+F2 and write liferea
[21:54] <stefg> the_real_funzo: i see... so the guide should work on intrepid, too.. if not, file a bug :-)
[21:54] <refdef> Nickrud im sorry but i didnt completely understand you. I want to keep all my documents and use my same homefolder wnd preferably keep on using my same username without creatin a new one or losing its files. What should i do? Thanks
[21:55] <Improv> diginux: Overall I'm quite impressed with Ubuntu - it's pretty well put-together.
[21:55] <nickrud> refdef, use the same username, and use the same partition for /home. Just don't reformat it :)
[21:55] <JessicaParker> hi anyone know how to play a .mts file ?
[21:55] <diginux> Improv: http://pastebin.com/m328b1263
[21:55] <titan_ark> probably, its cos am short on RAM? I am DLing the Alternate installation iso now
[21:55] <diginux> Improv: that is from ibex, but im sure it will work on whatever version you have
[21:55] <JessicaParker> on ubuntu copied from my camera
[21:55] <Improv> Jessica: I'd bet mplayer can play it
[21:55] <Improv> diginux: Thanks, I'll give it a shot
[21:55] <nickrud> refdef, I do that often, reinstall rather than upgrade and use that exact technique with no problems
[21:56] <refdef> Nickrud ok. Will using the same pass be necessary?
[21:56] <JessicaParker> mplayer movie player ?
[21:56] <hoban> hey all - how do I upgrade 8.04.1 --> 8.04.2 _without_ using the GUI?
[21:56] <nickrud> refdef, no'
[21:56] <brujo_quizz> sudo aptitude update
[21:56] <nickrud> hoban, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:56] <Improv> Jessica: Media player :)
[21:56] <stefg> refdef: give your existing username to the installer
[21:56] <Improv> Jessica: mplayer is pretty amazing - it can play just about anything.
[21:56] <hoban> nickrud, yeah, ok. I always do that, but /etc/issue still says 8.04.1...
[21:57] <kyledr> what's the best bittorrent client available on linux?
[21:57] <the_real_funzo> stefg, I installed a lot of shit i think, is there a way to remove that now. I dont know exactly where :P Is there a way to reverse the commands in the guide?
[21:57] <refdef> Nickrud thanks so even if when reinstalling i choose the same user as before that users docs won be overwritten by a blank new user doc folder?
[21:57] <nickrud> hoban, hm, that's strange.
[21:57] <nickrud> refdef, no, it will use the existing user dir.
[21:58] <^hashbang^> kyledr: console based or gui?
[21:58] <anisfarhana> thehook: can u help me with something ?
[21:58] <kyledr> ^hashbang^: either, if console based is good then that's better
[21:58] <nickrud> hoban, are you sure base-files is up to date?
[21:58] <refdef> nickrud: Thanks a million will install now
[21:58] <brujo_quizz> exit
[21:58] <hoban> nickrud, by base-files you mean what?
[21:58] <thehook> anisfarhana: what?
[21:58] <stefg> the_real_funzo: that's the problemif you don't use packages... sometime a 'make uninstall' works, but you still might have to remove files manually
[21:58] <^hashbang^> kyledr: I really like rtorrent... very easy to setup
[21:58] <nickrud> hoban, the package; /etc/issue is owned by that package
[21:59] <the_real_funzo> shaddup ^hashbang^ :P
[21:59] <JessicaParker> it cant even see it
[21:59] <anisfarhana> thehook: i just send an email to yahoo..but my yahoo mail still didn't receive my email...do u know why ?
[21:59] <^hashbang^> the_real_funzo: eh!?
[21:59] <JessicaParker> improv
[21:59] <hoban> nickrud, what's the current version?
[21:59] <kyledr> ^hashbang^: thanks
[21:59] <nickrud> hoban, I'm on 8.10; you can check for latest on packages.ubuntu.com
[22:00] <hoban> nickrud, thanks
[22:00] <^hashbang^> kyledr: np. btw, if that doesnt' work for you, try azureus (gui)
[22:00] <the_real_funzo> ^hashbang^, at your: "rtorrent is easy to config". i'm having problems with that now:P
[22:00] <Pinkopf> Is there a terminal command to slap things?
[22:00] <the_real_funzo> that's why:P
[22:00] <jken146> kyledr: deluge isn't bad
[22:00] <^hashbang^> the_real_funzo: oh, what's the problem?
[22:00] <JessicaParker> fps not specified in the header
[22:00] <Improv> diginux: Actually, no, that "openvpn" script is too new
[22:00] <JessicaParker> is the error
[22:00] <Xintruder> is there a way i can search for something in linux and include in the result the time needed to complete the search?
[22:00] <Xintruder> i need tha time needed
[22:00] <b^j> iptables and I aren't getting along, can someone give me a hand.  I am trying to redirect port 3389 from my ubuntu host system to a vm that is nated.  I see the SYNs sent from the system that is trying to connect, but never get a response.  When I listen with wireshark on the vmnet i see the syn come through, the SYNACK sent and a RST come back.  This never makes it out to the wire though.
[22:00] <thehook> what email, and from where ispconfig web interface?
[22:00] <Improv> diginux: I get "status_of_proc: not found"
[22:00] <the_real_funzo> i followed a guide to install from source and it didn't work but the files are installed somewhere :(
[22:00] <fwaokda> i created a usb ubuntu stick thats 4gb BUT it's using 128mb of space for storage instead of the full 4gb how can i expand it without recreating the installation on the stick - perhaps somehow with gparted?
[22:00] <anisfarhana> thehook: err..u dont understand what im saying ?
[22:01] <refdef> Nickrud one more thing im on the last step and it says 2 partitions will be formatted for swap. Is that normal? I just wanted to use mynold swap partition which is on the same hdd as my hime and root. I have another swap partition but its from anoher ubuntu install onanother disk
[22:01] <titan_ark> :(
[22:01] <gavic> can't figure out how to set up 4 workscreens to utilize the desktop cube in compiz any tips
[22:01] <^hashbang^> b^j: join #iptables
[22:01] <nickrud> refdef, no problem with actually formatting both, unless you've hibernated the other install
[22:01] <thehook> anisfarhana: not quite..
[22:01] <Digitalhighway> Is this a zero or an capital O after r -> deb http://hydr0g3n.free.fr/ubuntu/ hardy main
[22:02] <b^j> ^hashbang^, thanks
[22:02] <^hashbang^> b^j: np
[22:02] <korogiannos> ﻿gavic: it's "virtual desktop size" afair
[22:02] <refdef> Nickrud thnms yeah, nothing will be lost i juwt dont wqnt my ubuntu install to now have 2 swap partitions. Will that happen?
[22:02] <^hashbang^> it's a Zero
[22:02] <nickrud> refdef, you can deal with swap (keeping both, keeping them separate, removing one and only using the one swap with both installs) later on
[22:02] <JessicaParker> any ideas anyone
[22:02] <JessicaParker> .mts it has some hd clips on it
[22:03] <the_real_funzo> stefg, it worked to make uninstall both libtorrent and rtorrent :) i "made clean" too
[22:03] <the_real_funzo> is everything gone now?
[22:03] <nickrud> refdef, you can simply remove the swap definition in /etc/fstab that you don't want to use after install is complete
[22:03] <the_real_funzo> or is there a lot of more shit :P
[22:03] <gavic> thanks i will try that
[22:03] <nickrud> !language | the_real_funzo
[22:03] <^hashbang^> JessicaParker: what are you trying to do? I'm sorry I missed your question
[22:04] <Improv> Does anyone know how to tell apt-get to install a package and pretend it never has been configured before so give me all the default configuration?
[22:04] <stefg> the_real_funzo: that should do it for now...
[22:04] <the_real_funzo> for now stefg, for now?!?! :P
[22:04] <titan_ark> hey, i need some help with 8.10 installation! pls!!!
[22:04] <anisfarhana> thehook: i send the email from my server (ispconfig+ubuntu) to yahoo mail , but until now yahoo mail didn't receive anything
[22:05] <|ns|nR8> Improv, you can totally remove a package and its settings using apt-get purge package
[22:05] <nickrud> the_real_funzo, you could look around under /usr/local for any stray stuff; assuming you just did a ./configure && make && sudo make install that's where it all went
[22:05] <the_real_funzo> thanks nickrud :)
[22:05] <gregspence> Can anyone help with my PPTP VPN - I can VPN into my ubuntu box and access ping it, however whenever I try to send "all traffic" over the VPN i get a conneciton error in the browser.   Any ideas?  And yes I know pptp isn't that secure however if anyone else could give me help with setting up a VPN that would be easy to use on my iphone would be much appreciated
[22:05] <linduxed> whats the command that checks the HDDs integrity?
[22:05] <ramiro> how do I get to the output from the init scripts?
[22:05] <korogiannos> fsck
[22:06] <thehook> anisfarhana: have you checked the server log? /var/log/mail
[22:06] <Improv> |ns|nR8" Thanks! That let me get my /etc/init.d/openvpn back! :)
[22:06] <stefg> the_real_funzo: all the sh* splattered over the system is removed, all that might be left is logs and configs that get overwritten when you reinstall
[22:06] <titan_ark> come on! someone! please :(
[22:06] <Pinkopf> Might I resolve my sound issues if I removed PulseAudio which everyone seems to think is so problematic?
[22:06] <ikonia> riaal: what ?
[22:07] <ikonia> titan_ark: what ?
[22:07] <the_real_funzo> nice :) thanks stefg :D
[22:07] <ikonia> riaal: sorry - not you
[22:07] <korogiannos> ﻿linduxed:﻿fsck
[22:07] <riaal> :)
[22:07] <linduxed> korogiannos: thx
[22:07] <nectar> hey guys i am having issues intalling java6 could anyone help me?
[22:07] <the_real_funzo> <3 stefg, you have helped me many times now i think ^^ at least 3
[22:07] <anisfarhana> thehook: im checking
[22:07] <JessicaParker> ﻿^hashbang^ jv hd camcorder some .mts recording on it want to view it on ubuntu
[22:07] <titan_ark> ikonia, hey am facing trouble while tryin to install v8.10 as dual boot on my system with xp sp3
[22:08] <ikonia> titan_ark: ok ?
[22:08] <JessicaParker> and store them as well
[22:08] <ikonia> titan_ark: do you want to expand on that
[22:08] <^hashbang^> JessicaParker: JV might encode the movies with a codec not avaible under linux/ubuntu... I know I can't play my Sony HD stuff
[22:08] <titan_ark> ikonia hatter hey! i am a n00b just tryin out linux. am on an xp sp3 system with 256MB RAM. during installation i get stuck at a black screen
[22:09] <linduxed> how do i run a fsck on a partition thats running?
[22:09] <titan_ark> oops sorry
[22:09] <blizzle> titan_ark, Have you tried booting off CD?
[22:09] <titan_ark> i tried installing it thro the windows installation
[22:09] <cedrichurst_away> so does anyone where i would retrieve the en_US version of coreutils.mo
[22:09] <^hashbang^> linduxed: you don't. You need to go into "signle user mode" and then run it
[22:09] <stefg> titan_ark: 256MB isn't a lot... you should rather try xubuntu
[22:09] <JessicaParker> thats terrible
[22:09] <blizzle> titan_ark,  Ah, you mean Wubi?
[22:09] <titan_ark> but then i got an error that said i am 3 mb short
[22:09] <^hashbang^> JessicaParker: Google?
[22:09] <cedrichurst_away> i'm trying to install a program that's looking for /usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo
[22:09] <linduxed> ^hashbang^: init 3?
[22:10] <korogiannos> ﻿linduxed: if it's not the root partition, unmount and run, if it is... personaly I'd boot from a live CD, but I'm no expert ;P
[22:10] <blizzle> titan_ark,  Then you need to clear some space it sounds like. try http://ccleaner.com
[22:10] <titan_ark> so then i tried installing it on a fresh partition
[22:10] <^hashbang^> linduxed: you never want to run fsck on a mounted rw partition.
[22:10] <cedrichurst_away> sorry /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo
[22:10] <linduxed> korogiannos: i think i will do the live cd
[22:10] <^hashbang^> linduxed: and init 3 won't give you that.
[22:10] <blizzle> titan_ark, It's generally worth booting off the LiveCD first to ensure Ubuntu likes your hardware.
[22:10] <bakinbox> hello
[22:10] <linduxed> ^hashbang^: i think ill do a live cd
[22:10] <stefg> titan_ark: and don't use the 'desktop install' but either the alternate installer or the 'install ubuntu' boot option' which doesn't load the whole desktop, but just the installer
[22:10] <titan_ark> blizzle, k thx il try tht
[22:10] <korogiannos> ﻿linduxed: I saw a mention of "single user mode" did I miss something? are you talking about a mac?
[22:10] <SlashLife> Morning. :)
[22:11] <blizzle> stefg, He was using Wubi..
[22:11] <^hashbang^> linduxed: yea that's a good idea =)
[22:11] <Pinkopf> Heyo, only OSS working here. Any help?
[22:11] <bakinbox> hello
[22:11] <titan_ark> i tried installing it from a direct boot. i mean i booted from the disk also
[22:11] <bakinbox> this works?
[22:11] <blizzle> titan_ark, For the LiveCD, you probably want to go with Xubuntu 8.10 desktop, given your pc's specs.
[22:11] <stefg> blizzle: i see... wubi with 256 MB is asking for trouble
[22:11] <SlashLife> Some quick help here, please ... we can't seem to find the package containing the sockets extension for PHP5
[22:11] <blizzle> stefg, Indeed.
[22:11] <titan_ark> but then i reached a black screen and only the mouse pointer moving
[22:11] <SlashLife> Does anyone know the actual packet name or can point me to an online ports list?
[22:11] <titan_ark> bizzle k
[22:12] <titan_ark> stefg, oh!
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[22:12] <titan_ark> even when i tried the live disc it just whines and comes till the desktop and then nothing beyond that!
[22:13] <stefg> titan_ark: forget wubi with 256 MB... take a backup of your system and do a proper xubuntu install on the machine.. or go buy some ram
[22:13] <blizzle> titan_ark, What version of Ubuntu did you try?
[22:13] <Jufis> what's an good alternative for dreamweaver? handles html, css, javascript, php etc.
[22:13] <gregspence> can onyone help me configure my ubuntu box...have it set up as a pptp server, can make connections to the box however when i enable the option to send all traffic over the vpn on the client i get connection failures.  think it is to do with my pptpd.conf but don't know where to start
[22:13] <blizzle> Jufis, Bluefish I hear is ok.
[22:13] <titan_ark> stfg oh okay :( even the alternate version wont work?
[22:13] <^hashbang^> SlashLife: are you talking about php-net-socket?
[22:13] <titan_ark> blizzle, 8.10
[22:13] <SlashLife> Nope, we checked that out already, that's not it
[22:14] <Jufis> blizzle:  bluefish? gotta check it out, thanks man
[22:14] <nightrid3r> !nvidia
[22:14] <mfc_coder> There a good web creation program available?
[22:14] <^hashbang^> SlashLife: ok then what are you looking for?
[22:14] <titan_ark> *stefg sorry okay :( even the alternate version wont work?
[22:14] <anisfarhana> thehook: wheee..until now /var/log/mail still running
[22:14] <SlashLife> ^hashbang^: That's as specific as I can get: "The sockets extension for PHP5" :/
[22:14] <Pinkopf> I guess the ALSA/ PulseAudio experts are all at lunch?
[22:15] <SlashLife> He's installing some pecl extension packet atm, tho ... With a bit of luck that's it.
[22:15] <thehook> anisfarhana: /var/log/mail is a logfile, how can it run?
[22:15] <stefg> titan_ark: it'S not only a question if the installer works... the systemn has to run too. gnome (ubuntu) will be rather slow on 256 MB, xfce (xubuntu) is a better choice for that machine, and don't waste memeory on clutches like wubi, use a real install on a real partition
[22:15] <blizzle> Jufis, Dreamweaver will also work in Wine, at least older versions.
[22:16] <Jufis> blizzle: how's the performance that way?
[22:16] <carpii> is it possible to install ubuntu to a usb drive, rather than just putting a live cd on it?
[22:16] <titan_ark> stefg oh okay il try that then :) thx
[22:16] <zleap> yes
[22:16] <^hashbang^> SlashLife: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024529 maybe this will help?
[22:16] <blizzle> Jufis, Dreamweaver isn't particularly cpu-intensive, so it's fine.
[22:16] <carpii> zleap, was that to me?
[22:16] <korogiannos> ﻿mfc_coder: similar to front page and the like? or something more hands on?  Bluefish is great, but you need to know a little html etc, not a "What you see is what you get" there
[22:16] <Jufis> mfc_coder: I heard bluefish is good, haven't checked it out myself, yet
[22:16] <hatten> goodnight everybody
[22:16] <zleap> system - admin - usb start up disk
[22:17] <zleap> Carpii yes
[22:17] <gumpish> =/ anyone know of an IM client that lets you send inline images?
[22:17] <blizzle> carpii, If your system can boot off usb, you can boot into Ubuntu off USB, yes.
[22:17] <thehook> !usb
[22:17] <carpii> zleap, i think thats for gnome? where would it be in kde
[22:17] <ballen0311> Hey does anyone know how I switch between screens? Like in Windows with alt-tab, but in Ubuntu it flips the whole screen like it's a box. Anyone know how to do that?
[22:17] <zleap> erm
[22:17] <brettley>  how do i fix the permissions on /dev/nvidiactl
[22:17] <blizzle> ballen0311, You need compiz.
[22:17] <zleap> are you using erm ubuntu 8.10
[22:17] <blizzle> !compiz
[22:17] <zleap> or kde being kubuntu 8.10
[22:18] <foolz> I have a question - how do I know if compiz-fusion is enabled on 8.04? I recently upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10, then from 7.10 to 8.04, and I'm not sure if compiz-fusion is enabled because I see no "desktop effects" under preferences... I also have an older version of Beryl installed - do I just uninstall that with sudo aptitude uninstall beryl ?
[22:18] <carpii> i think im back on 8..04 now
[22:18] <blizzle> ballen0311, You also need a compatible 3d accelerated graphics adapter.
[22:18] <nectar> is there anyone who can help me about fixing my broken java package?
[22:18] <anisfarhana> thehook: cat /var/log/mail
[22:18] <carpii> zleap, yep 8.04, and kde 3.5
[22:18] <ballen0311> I have that....I have the ati propietary drivers
[22:18] <zleap> hmm
[22:18] <zleap> not sure about 8.04
[22:18] <^hashbang^> gumpish: pidgion?
[22:19] <titan_ark> stefg wat abt ubuntu 7.04? would that work on a P4 1.9, 256 MB RAM?
[22:19] <blizzle> ballen0311, Then have a look at compiz.. fire up synaptic and look for compiz packages.. compiz-icon useful, also.
[22:19] <brettley> how do i fix the permissions on /dev/nvidiactl ???
[22:19] <gumpish> ^hashbang^: that's what i've been using and although it has an "insert image" menu item it's always grayed out
[22:19] <BJ_> ex
[22:19] <gumpish> at least with my google talk account
[22:19] <zleap> carpii, http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/55/products_id/517
[22:19] <ballen0311> ok thank you very much :)
[22:19] <SlashLife> Nvm
[22:19] <^hashbang^> gumpish: hmm, that might be why. it's not the client, but the service
[22:19] <zleap> you can get something that does the job, so i assume it is possible
[22:19] <SlashLife> It's compiled into PHP by default on Ubuntu
[22:20] <thehook> anisfarhana: so what does it say?
[22:20] <^hashbang^> SlashLife: hehe cool!
[22:20] <carpii> zleap thanks, this is awesome :)
[22:20] <zleap> np
[22:20] <gumpish> ^hashbang^: but the other person I'm communicating with is also using google talk and IS able to send inline images (using Adium on a Mac)
[22:20] <SlashLife> Unexpected tho, neither Windows nor FreeBSD have it. :)
[22:20] <^hashbang^> gumpish: mmm
[22:20] <kane77> is there a command that would get text input and output that input to console and highlight given string?
[22:20] <gregspence> can onyone help me configure my ubuntu box...have it set up as a pptp server, can make connections to the box however when i enable the option to send all traffic over the vpn on the client i get connection failures.  think it is to do with my pptpd.conf but don't know where to start
[22:21] <gregspence> i should say it authenticates sucessfully just cant get traffic over the tunnel now?
[22:21] <Templar_Xion> How do you clear the postfix mailq?
[22:21] <blizzle> kane77, man grep
[22:23] <anisfarhana> thehook: delivery temporarily suspended: host f.mx.mail.yahoo.com[209.191.88.247] refused to talk to me : 421 4.7.0
[22:23] <anisfarhana> thehook: seem like not just yahoo give the same error
[22:23] <titan_ark> stefg would 7.04 work?
[22:23] <Walter22> oi
[22:24] <anisfarhana> thehook: i cannot send email to all 'external' email address , eg : yahoo , hotmail
[22:24] <titan_ark> blizzle wat do u say?
[22:24] <^hashbang^> gumpish: I'm not finding anything
[22:24] <foolz> how do I know if compiz-fusion is installed with 8.04?  I upgraded to 8.04, and had an old version of Beryl installed, so it's a little confusing
[22:24] <gumpish> ^hashbang^: thanks anyway. the search continues =)
[22:24] <fwaokda> I created a Ubuntu USB disk through 8.10 and I cannot get it to run again it keeps saying the disk is full and it cannot load whenever its at the loading screen then I have to shut down
[22:24] <thehook> anisfarhana: check it out with #postfix they have the expertise
[22:24] <DexterF> !dvd
[22:24] <stefg> titan_ark: 7.04 is end-of-life ... use  at least 8.04
[22:25] <fwaokda> how can i free up space or fix the real error?
[22:25] <stefg> !feisty | titan_ark
[22:25] <anisfarhana> thehook: thanks sir
[22:25] <BJ_> I formatted my drive to Linux swap and now the OS will not load at all
[22:25] <thehook> anisfarhana: no problem
[22:25] <titan_ark> stefg oh okay i had an old disc lying arnd so thot i could use it
[22:25] <DexterF> anyone know a dvd ripper? just copy to hard disk, no shrinking or such
[22:25] <titan_ark> ubottu thx :)
[22:26] <BJ_> the disk is giving me a squashfs error as well
[22:26] <smokinjoe> Dexter devede
[22:26] <stefg> titan_ark: no, the repos are down, don't use it
[22:26] <ballen0311> Ok, so it looks like I have all the compiz stuff installed already....I guess what I really need to know is what do you push to make it change screens?
[22:26] <titan_ark> stefg okay :) il DL xubuntu and try.
[22:26] <smokinjoe> DexterF vobcopy works good also
[22:27] <titan_ark> iv been wanting to try linux esp ubuntu for days and am still stuck :(
[22:27] <DexterF> thx, smokinjoe
[22:27] <cousteau> is it a really bad idea to install packages from another Ubuntu version?
[22:27] <DexterF> cousteau: hell yes.
[22:28] <cousteau> even if all dependencies work?
[22:28] <smokinjoe> DexterF you could also try sudo apt-cache search dvd ripper ...or even try synaptic.
[22:28] <cousteau> I was tired of Java 6.07 so I installed Jaunty's 6.12
[22:28] <Sonja> how to make my computer display out to tv (via my graphic card's svideo) by default instead of vga?
[22:29] <DexterF> cousteau: even if all dependecies are met chances are the resulting binaries are linked against different libraries, most likely glibc.
[22:29] <DexterF> !backports
[22:29] <ballen0311> Can someone tell me how you changes screens in ubuntu, when it looks like it is changing like a box? I have all the necessary programs to make it able to do so, just don't know what to push on keyboard. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[22:29] <^hashbang^> Sonja: I've just unplugged my vga cable during a reboot, and that's worked for me in the past
[22:30] <android6011> what kind of copyright is on the ubuntu logo
[22:30] <DexterF> see there. or sneak over to #debian, ask the dpkg bot about backports and adapt that to ubuntu. works usually. just don't bug the deb people about ubuntu stuff unless you pack a fine pair of asbestos pants :)
[22:30] <^hashbang^> DxterF: lol
[22:30] <blizzle> cousteau, I use intrepid repos where none exist for Jaunty, but you're better sticking to official version repos.
[22:31] <kane77> blizzle, hmm.. am I possible to specify to only colour the lines (and not filter out the non matching lines)?
[22:31] <kane77> blizzle, *with grep
[22:31] <blizzle> kane77, Did you man grep? Should tell you what's possible..
[22:31] <kane77> blizzle, yep, no word of it
[22:32] <blizzle> kane77, Then you have your answer :)
[22:32] <cousteau> no, there isn't any sun-java6-* on hardy-backports... there's a 6.07 version (instead of 6.06) on hardy-updates
[22:32] <shaft0> I'm trying to mount a share on an Ubuntu computer from another Ubuntu computer.  The line in my fstab is: //192.168.1.148/Data /media/Data smbfs defaults 0 0
[22:32] <DexterF> smokinjoe: isnt devede rather a dvd *creator*?
[22:32] <nx9005> after I upgrade my system my keyboard and touchpad are not working. I found the same problem in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967790&page=2 . it says problem is xorg.conf and tells about solving it. but my xorg.conf file is empty. what should I do?
[22:32] <Jufis> does bluefish have autocomple feature?
[22:32] <^hashbang^> kane77: try something line xport GREP_COLOR='00;38;5;226'
[22:32] <shaft0> and I'm getting the error wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
[22:32] <smokinjoe> Yeah but it really helps to have it if you want to burn to a dvd
[22:32] <cousteau> looks like 6.12 works better... but I'll follow your advice and try to avoid these things
[22:32] <^hashbang^> kane77: export GREP_COLOR='00;38;5;226'
[22:33] <blizzle> Jufis, Suck it and see! It's first and foremost an html editor.
[22:33] <^hashbang^> kane77: more info can be found here - > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/460
[22:33] <cousteau> (another option would be to manually install it with Sun's installer, but I prefer a .deb)
[22:34] <joshjtl> hi, just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu (x86-64) on a new machine, can't find ubuntu-restricted-extras in synaptic... is something wrong here?
[22:34] <DexterF> smokinjoe: nah, just archiving. raid5, y'know. tired of disc juggling.
[22:34] <stefg> !medibuntu | joshjtl
[22:35] <smokinjoe> Ahh.. alright.
[22:35] <joshjtl> stefg: that shouldn't be needed now that ubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage is in the repos
[22:35] <^hashbang^> kane77: or you can just do: grep --color (default color is red)
[22:35] <stefg> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:35] <cousteau> joshjtl: ubuntu-restricted-extras is in repositories; make sure you have restricted, universe, multiverse, etc... activated
[22:36] <joshjtl> cousteau: I do
[22:36] <Huufarted> question about passwords:  I changed my login pass and pam_keyring won't accept the new pass.  How can I update pam_keyring to use the same password as the one I just updated?
[22:36] <cousteau> then it should be there
[22:36] <joshjtl> well i'm going to reboot after updating, maybe it will appear... brb
[22:36] <stefg> joshjtl: just yestaerday i set up alaptop with intrepid 64bit and happily apt-get'd that package.. you might be missing some sources
[22:37] <Rencx> Hello i have problem with firefox and index.php Can somone help me?
[22:37] <shockwave> hey
[22:37] <Huufarted> Rencx, just ask the question, don't ask if you can ask the question.
[22:37] <shockwave> can any one help me?
[22:37] <Huufarted> Shockwave, what I just said to Rencx
[22:37] <shockwave> how do i set up ventrilo in ubuntu?
[22:37] <^hashbang^> Rencx: join #firefox
[22:37] <Huufarted> if there is no native client, use Wine
[22:38] <shockwave> can you give me wine please?
[22:38] <Huufarted> Sure.  $1 per jug.
[22:38] <shockwave> :D
[22:38] <Huufarted> http://www.winehq.org
[22:38] <linduxed> is there a way to schedule a boottime fsck?
[22:38] <^hashbang^> !ine | shockwave
[22:38] <^hashbang^> !wine | shockwave
[22:39] <cedeel> how do i edit flac tags in a cli env?
[22:39] <fermuch> hi
[22:39] <fermuch> hola
[22:39] <fermuch> ¿alguien tiene algun problema?
[22:39] <^hashbang^> !welcome | fermuch
[22:39] <Huufarted> Ventrilo website currently says a Linux application is 'in development'
[22:39] <fermuch> anybody have a problem?
[22:39] <cedeel> I do
[22:39] <jken146> Hello.  I am customising a live CD and I want to change the default bookmarks in Firefox.  I can't find the file I need to edit.  Does anyone know?
[22:39] <^hashbang^> !ask | fermuch
[22:39] <Huufarted> !es | fermuch
[22:39] <Huufarted> haha, hashbang
[22:39] <Rencx> I use ubuntu and i have problem that firefox not load page but want save index.php... Can somone help me with that?
[22:40] <cedeel> how do i edit flac tags in a cli env?
[22:40] <shockwave> hey can you help me with this guide?
[22:40] <shockwave> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[22:40] <Huufarted> Rencx, please /join #firefox
[22:40] <fermuch> ubottu: Revisa que estoy hablando en los dos idiomas.
[22:40] <blizzle> Rencx, The server's not handling php files correctly.
[22:40] <stefg> linduxed: put a file named forcefsck in  the root of a partition you want to force fsck  .. e.g. sudo touch /forcefsck
[22:40] <blizzle> Huufarted, Nothing to do with Firefox, essentially.
[22:40] <shockwave> hey can any one help me with this guide?
[22:40] <shockwave> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[22:40] <Huufarted> Oh, gotcha.  My bad.
[22:41] <^hashbang^> !patience |shockwave
[22:41] <Rencx> Huufarted i did it
[22:41] <MoLoot> shockwave, help u with a guide?
[22:41] <Jufis> ah, found Kompozer. Seems like it will do as a Dreamweaver alternative
[22:41] <blizzle> Rencx, Are *you* running the webserver?
[22:41] <JennieB> hi, could anyone tell me why sound on my ubuntu only works with one app at a time?
[22:41] <jost86> @shockwave: As far as i know, there is no linux version of Ventrilo... you could try to run it using WINE, but it's not officially supported
[22:42] <blizzle> JennieB, Because you're using OSS drivers?
[22:42] <shockwave> i know can you help me please can you take a look at this guide?
[22:42] <shockwave> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[22:42] <Rencx> blizzle: no it is in game ogame.org
[22:42] <blizzle> shockwave, Please stop repeating yourself, you'll get less help that way.
[22:42] <shockwave> i didnt understand which wine to download
[22:42] <^hashbang^> shockwave: stop repeating yourself
[22:42] <blizzle> Rencx, Then their server is misconfigured. Go tell the admin!
[22:42] <DexterF> smokinjoe: vobcopy good. me like.
[22:43] <JennieB> well, how do I get this thing working properly? functionality is kinda limited at the moment..
[22:43] <blizzle> shockwave, Add the wine repository and download from there, if you want up to date Wine.
[22:43] <Rencx> blizzle: but on Windows firefox all is ok
[22:43] <^hashbang^> Rencx: what is the website
[22:43] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: ogame.org
[22:43] <blizzle> Rencx, Definitely a server-side issue, not a Firefox one. "Content disposition".
[22:44] <^hashbang^> Rencx: works fine for me
[22:44] <^hashbang^> Rencx: you have any strange plugins installed?
[22:44] <Rencx> blizzle: but it is not always only like one time per 2 minutes
[22:44] <^hashbang^> Rencx: do you have flash installeD?
[22:44] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: but it is not always only like one time per 2 minutes
[22:45] <^hashbang^> /sinstalleD/installed/
[22:45] <Rencx> ^hashbang^: and in game
[22:45] <^hashbang^> Rencx: email the game admin
[22:45] <Huufarted> Rencx, try Ctrl-F5 on the page
[22:45] <cedeel> Hi.. Does someone know how to edit flac tags in a cli environment?
[22:45] <Huufarted> Ctrl-F5 will force a refresh regardless of whether the cache is expired or not.
[22:46] <DexterF> can I affect how "nervous" the AMD cpu throttling is? it's usually at 1GHz, when I go to 4xfwd in kaffeine video player it takes too long to up the clock, kaffeine starts stuttering then
[22:46] <gor> hola, hay alguien que hable español? quiero hacer una consulta
[22:46] <DexterF> !en
[22:46] <Huufarted> !es | gor
[22:46] <redvamp128> !es | gor
[22:46] <Huufarted> Beat you to it, Redvamp
[22:46] <^hashbang^> cedeel: try http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t20316.html
[22:47] <gor> ok
[22:47] <cedeel> Hi.. Does someone know how to edit flac tags in a cli environment?
[22:47] <^hashbang^> cedeel: try http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t20316.html
[22:47] <^hashbang^> cedeel: don't ask again
[22:48] <carpii> and dont be lazy, just learn to google like youre asking everyone else to do
[22:48] <Huufarted> So, I updated my Linux login password.  Now my wireless refuses to remember my passwords.  I assume this is pam_keyring.  It won't even accept my old password.  Anybody know what I need to do if I want to change my Linux login and have pam_keyring follow it?
[22:49] <cedeel> I've been googling.. only answer I could come up with was vorbiscomment, which logically refuses to work on my flac files
[22:49] <^hashbang^> Huufarted: hmm, try a new profile?
[22:49] <cedeel> But now I see that it is metaflac that I should use.
[22:50] <^hashbang^> cedeel: ok
[22:50] <^hashbang^> brb
[22:50] <Huufarted> hashbang: Profile in what?
[22:50] <Huufarted> seems like I need to do some more homework.
[22:52] <shockwave> can anyone help me with command?
[22:52] <bascht> shockwave: just ask. :-)
[22:52] <shockwave> i installed a game at usr/local/games
[22:52] <adaptr> shockwave: telinit, telinit is a nice command
[22:53] <shockwave> i want
[22:53] <Huufarted> hahaha
[22:53] <shockwave> to move it to home
[22:53] <Huufarted> shockwave, what's the name of the directory the game is stored in?
[22:53] <Huufarted> /usr/local/games/ ?????
[22:53] <shockwave> enemy-territory
[22:53] <^hashbang^> shockwave: mv /usr/local/games/"name of game" ~/
[22:53] <Huufarted> mv /usr/local/games/enemy-territory ~
[22:54] <Improv> Hey all - just to be certain I'm getting this correct - ubuntu is normally running in initlevel 2 even when doing X, correct?
[22:54] <Huufarted> hashbang types faster
[22:54] <^hashbang^> Huufarted:=)
[22:54] <Huufarted> shockwave, just remember that will NOT update any icons you've got set up in gnome or KDE
[22:54] <SnakeArt> Hello! I need some help with lirc. I have a homebrew serial IR receiver and Apple Remote. Is there any how-to about configuration of such combo?
[22:54] <joshjtl> does anyone use the "Gnome Colors" icon theme? for some reason I can't get the menu icon to use the one I choose... I pasted the icon I want to use over the used in the theme but the menu icon peskily remains...
[22:54] <Huufarted> you'll have to handle those yourself individually
[22:54] <Improv> so if I want something to automatically start as an init script, it belongs in /etc/rc2.d/ not /etc/rc5.d ?
[22:55] <jove> Hi all I want to convert XML file to the flat file with the following example --> usage: [xml2|html2] < [xml|html] > out   ---But I dont know how to us this syntax ....Does anyone know how to us it ?
[22:55] <^hashbang^> Huufarted: so back to your password thing. What I would do just to test pam_keyring and passwords period. I would create a new logon account, login with that new account and try re-setting up your keyring... and see if things stay updated. worse case, move all your date from the non-working profile to the new one
[22:56] <^hashbang^> s/date/data/
[22:56] <jove> Hi all I want to convert XML file to the flat file with the following example --> usage: [xml2|html2] < [xml|html] > out   ---But I dont know how to us this syntax ....Does anyone know how to us it ?
[22:56] <^hashbang^> jove: join #xml
[22:56] <amathis> hello, i am having trouble.. I am trying to install ubuntu, and it comes up with the screen asking if you wanna try ubuntu or install, or boot to first hard disk
[22:56] <amathis> but I can only hit enter on the boot to first hard disk option
[22:57] <jove> hashbang, I don't understand your explanation.... can you specific show the syntax ?
[22:57] <^hashbang^> jove: join the IRC channel #xml
[22:57] <vigo> amathis: ISO?
[22:57] <Huufarted> hashbang, I did some searching yesterday and the one or 2 articles I saw seemed to indicate pam_keyring needed a recompile and that just seems asinine of that's the case.
[22:57] <amathis> vigo, yes from an iso file I burnt as an image
[22:58] <jove> hashbang, is it in this ubuntu server ? where can i find xml channel
[22:58] <vigo> amathis: Is CD set as first boot device in BIOS?
[22:58] <amathis> yes, it is booting to cd....
[22:58] <blizzle> jove: /join #xml
[22:58] <Huufarted> jove, this network is the freenode network.
[22:58] <amathis> I see the ubuntu screen and everything
[22:58] <^hashbang^> Huufarted: om, that's nuts. hmm, yea I think i'd backup data, make new account and start over =)
[22:58] <Huufarted> it's multiple servers all linked together
[22:58] <SnakeArt> How to setup the lirc to work with homebrew serial receiver and Apple Remote?
[22:58] <jove> #xml
[22:59] <Huufarted> jove, like this:  /join #xml
[22:59] <^hashbang^> SnakeArt: this is a ubuntu support channel.
[22:59] <amathis> I just cannot hit enter on the 'install ubuntu' thing
[22:59] <amathis> option
[22:59] <Huufarted> amathis, is it greyed out or does it just not respond?
[22:59] <dmsuperman> http://dmsuperman.pastebin.com/f2711b281 My X randomly decided to stop starting up (I had it running, didn't make any changes or upgrade any packages, and now it doesn't start)
[22:59] <jove> huufarted, thx.
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> amathis,  you mean the GRUB boot menu?  where it first boots up?
[22:59] <amathis> Huufarted, it isn't greyed out.. the text is brownish orange
[23:00] <vigo> amathis: I had a similar error once, but I forgot what I did , let me look at my log books.
[23:00] <Huufarted> Dr_Willis, they're trying to boot from the live CD, not an install
[23:00] <SnakeArt> hashbang: I AM using the Ubuntu, to be more precise: on an ordinary pc, but I would like to get any help with lirc configuration of mentioned devices.
[23:00] <jove> well, there is no one in #xml channel
[23:00] <amathis> I mean, I stuck the ubuntu install cd in.. it brings up the screen that says ubuntu, 'try ubuntu without any change to your computer, ' install ubuntu', check cd for defects', test memory', and boot from hard disk
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> Ive had issue with the live cd menus on some machines where the menus dident work with a USB keyboard.. but did with a ps2 keyboard.. (older machine had this problem)
[23:00] <Huufarted> jove, sending you a tell
[23:00] <taz> hi... i need any of u help me. and have promblmes with update manager it said W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:00] <taz> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:00] <taz> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:00] <amathis> and the only one I can select is the boot from first hard disk
[23:00] <FloodBot1> taz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <jasonR> Hey Gang. Issues with sound on an HP Pavilion 061. the snd_intel_hda driver is loaded, but the mixer (don't matter which) does not have a volume slider. It only shows... IEC958
[23:01] <^hashbang^> SnakeArt: ok lirc and a apple remote have nothing to do with ubuntu support
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the cd grub (Or is it syslinux?) menu to me.
[23:01] <amathis> yes
[23:01] <SnakeArt> hasbang: then sorry. Where I can find some help with my problem?
[23:02] <amathis> everything else works so far, I select english..
[23:02] <amathis> I just cannot install or do anything but boot to hard disk
[23:02] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: I see this in the output "failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)"
[23:02] <kyledr> win 3
[23:02] <wolter> how can i check two big text files for their differences?
[23:02] <^hashbang^> SnakeArt: not sure, you could try browsing freenode channel lists
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> wolter,  the 'diff' command. is often used for that. there even color-varints of diff to make it more clear
[23:03] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[23:03] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: What would cause it to suddenly not be found? I tried reinstalling my video driver and that didn't work (using the binaries from nvidia.com, version 180.25 and 180.11 and 180.22 don't work anymore)
[23:03] <amathis> anyone?
[23:03] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Sure thing
[23:03] <wolter> thanks Dr_Willis, always so helpful =D
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> wolter,  now understanding the diff output.. thats a harder task. :)
[23:03] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: have you tried running nvidia-xconfig?
[23:04] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: I usually will do that first thing, then I'll reboot, and then start up nvidia-settings-manager
[23:04] <joshjtl> does anyone know where the Gnome Control Center shortcut is located in the gnome panel menu? (or if it is even there?)
[23:04] <taz> any one can help me with W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:04] <taz> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:04] <taz> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:04] <FloodBot1> taz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:04] <^hashbang^> taz: use paste.ubuntu.com and stop flooding the channel
[23:05] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: http://dmsuperman.pastebin.com/f4542a412
[23:05] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: And yeah, I've tried using my old config and trying a fresh start using nvidia-xconfig
[23:05] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: A reboot didn't fix it
[23:06] <spritle> i have a problem with claris works
[23:06] <meho_r> @taz try with this: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv
[23:06] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: what does ` lsmod | grep nv` give you?
[23:06] <meho_r> @taz after --recv enter the key that's missing
[23:06] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Odd, only "sata_nv" and "libata"
[23:06] <taz> meho_r: how ?
[23:07] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: ah, there be the problem... no nvidia kernel driver
[23:07] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: The installer didn't give me any error though :(
[23:07] <meho_r> @ taz: open the terminal and enter this:
[23:07] <meho_r> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:07] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: start from scratch. uninstall all nvidia drivers, reboot, then reinstall the 180 drivers
[23:08] <taz> meho_r: ok termial  here now what will i do ??
[23:08] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: How do you "uninstall" the nvidia drivers?
[23:08] <amathis> has anyone else encountered a problem selecting 'install ubuntu' after loading the install cd?
[23:08] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: use synpatic..
[23:08] <joshjtl> where is RAM size displayed?
[23:08] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Synaptic only works for packages, which I'm not using, and also is an X app ;)
[23:08] <meho_r> @taz: enter this: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:08] <Huufarted> Amathis, have you tried the CD multiple times?
[23:08] <^hashbang^> joshjtl: from a termminal type: free
[23:08] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: I have the binaries from nvidia.com because those are the only ones that work for my setup
[23:09] <[NB]> ubuntu shutdown splashscreen is bugged with the 180 nv drivers
[23:09] <tcpsyn> I'm having a hard time blacklisting usb_storage. I've added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[23:09] <taz> ok
[23:09] <tcpsyn> but it still autoloads when I plug in a device
[23:09] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: hmm, then I
[23:09] <tcpsyn> Is there a setting that ignores the blacklist somewhere?
[23:09] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: hmm, then I'm not sure...
[23:09] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: :(
[23:09] <meho_r> @taz: now enter this: gpg --export --armor 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[23:09] <joshjtl> ^hashbang^: great thanks
[23:10] <siropio> hello i would like to ask how to make some modifications in the emesene code.what kind of knowledge i sould seek?
[23:10] <wolter> Dr_Willis, nah, its not that hard. The first file's lines are identified with a '<', while the second file's lines are identified with a '>'. The numbers above are just the line numbers, i think.
[23:10] <foolz> I love it when how-to guides on the internet skip multiple necessary steps in terms of getting through some menu to find something... or when they have options on their menu that you don't even have on yours... ugughg
[23:10] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: I've compiled my nvidia drivers when I used fedora for my quadro fx570 dual head monitors, but on ubuntu, I just use the repos 180 package and everything works
[23:11] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: your using a GX7900 right?
[23:11] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: I'm on hardy, I don't get those in the repos :(
[23:11] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: 7900GS KO
[23:11] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: doh! yea ... that one.. =)
[23:11] <meho_r> @taz: if all went well, now the error you mentioned should be gone
[23:12] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: try commenting out the "Load glx" option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:12] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: or, what about modprobe nvidia
[23:12] <gospod> Hello guys can i ask you some question ?
[23:12] <^hashbang^> !ask gospod
[23:12] <^hashbang^> !ask  | gospod
[23:12] <gospod> i try to update my ubuntu with apt-get
[23:12] <gospod> and this is a result http://paste.lisp.org/display/75376
[23:12] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Doesn't help :(
[23:13] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: did you try the modprobe too?
[23:14] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Yeah, modprobe nvidia says FATAL: Error running isntall command for nvidia
[23:14] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman:  hmm, in type uname -r and paste that in here
[23:14] <dmsuperman> 2.4.24-19
[23:14] <taz> hey i cant copy this to paste to termite
[23:14] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman:  wow, old kernel
[23:14] <^hashbang^> taz: use paste.ubuntu.com
[23:15] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: do: cd /lib/modules/2.4.24-19; find . -name \*nvidia*
[23:15] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: I'm kind of stuck, this is where the problem is. I have 2 video cards, and I use 4GB of RAM on a 32bit OS. I use PAE, which works fine and dandy, except at work when I recompiled a later kernel with PAE my video driver entirely stopped working, so I'm afraid to upgrade at home and effectively screw myself over
[23:16] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: And in Intrepid, there's a bug with X with certain dual card setups where it just says "fatal error: no screens found"
[23:16] <CrypticSwarm> y
[23:16] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: hmm, 32bit doesn't support 4G of ram
[23:16] <taz> how ?
[23:17] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: That's why I use PAE, but that requires me to recompile my kernel with the flag enabled
[23:17] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: doh! ok
[23:17] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: And at work, when I did that, I couldn't install my video drivers anymore :P
[23:17] <amathis> I cannot find anything on the internet about not being able to select anything except booting to first hard drive on the ubuntu install screen.. could someone please help
[23:17] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: hmm, I'm not sure
[23:17] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: http://dmsuperman.pastebinit.com/fa3956f
[23:17] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: I've never tried using 2 video cards (tho I wanted to)... =)
[23:17] <pipeman> how do I get a directory to continue a share after a restart?
[23:17] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, when you compile your kernel custom, you often need to compile your modules yourself....
[23:18] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, that is why it is highly not recommended in ubuntu
[23:18] <kingsley> Can one switch ubuntu's configuration back and forth between English and Korean? If so, how?
[23:18] <meho_r> SEND taz [/home/shared/code]
[23:18] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: I did that, and I'm doing that now, but I havae no other option
[23:18] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, 64bit? server kernel?
[23:18] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, other distros that support custom kernel compilation?
[23:18] <taz> finallly i did copy and paste so
[23:18] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, you always have options with linux
[23:19] <Improv> Is there a nice way to tell upstart to log everything init scripts say to a file?
[23:19] <taz> meho_r  ..done copy and paste....
[23:19] <taz> wheww
[23:19] <puppiesRcute> hello i was wondering a friend put a new cd drive in my pc and it was brand new but now sense we put in the new drive both of my cd drives are not workin
[23:19] <taz>  what next
[23:19] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: I want to stick with ubuntu, 64bit has many issues (most notably the development package I need for my work for eclipse has no 64bit version, flash rarely works, etc. etc.)
[23:19] <^hashbang^> !upstart
[23:19] <Scunizi> puppiesRcute: don't forget to plug in the power connector
[23:19] <^hashbang^> !upstart | Improv
[23:19] <sara_> !training
[23:19] <puppiesRcute> they did
[23:19] <puppiesRcute> its all connected will open up
[23:19] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, and the need for more than 3.2gb of ram?
[23:19] <meho_r> @taz just refresh repos. Type: sudo apt-get update
[23:20] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: Virtual machines
[23:20] <taz> good
[23:20] <puppiesRcute> the drive will open and shut both will it just doesnt mount them or show them on the system
[23:20] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, understandable
[23:20] <taz> Meho_r: no show up error..it gone
[23:20] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, get the nvidia drivers from the website, you may have make the changes to xorg.conf yourself
[23:20] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: So, when I say "I have no other options" I don't mean there's no possible way, but in order to meed my requirements I'm basically forced to use PAE and install from nvidia.com
[23:21] <meho_r> @taz: so working, ha? :) Glad to hear. This is procedure for all missing keys. Remember it ;)
[23:21] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, but it should be as easy as:   sh nvida_driver_package    then:   nvidia-config
[23:21] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: That's what I'm using, and the installer runs without error but then sudo modprobe nvidia gives me error running install command
[23:21] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: and lsmod | grep nv shows that it's not in use
[23:21] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, this is because you have to have your currently running kerenl source (not headers) symlinked to /usr/src/linux
[23:21] <Scunizi> puppiesRcute: you should also check the little jumper on the back of the drives.. there are usually 3 positions you can put the jumper, Master, Slave and Cable Select.. If you're not sure put both in the cable select position
[23:21] <sara_> ok ubottu doesn't know where i can get training for ubuntu... does anyone here know ubuntu training like there is for microsoft (mcdst)?
[23:21] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, nv are the open source drivers.....
[23:21] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: nv would match nvidia ;)
[23:22] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, the close source drivers are "nvidia"
[23:22] <puppiesRcute> its a sony dvd double layer drive the other is a samsung dvd double layer drive
[23:22] <taz> thanks
[23:22] <carpii> why do you want ubuntu certification ?
[23:22] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, ah, yes
[23:22] <Scunizi> puppiesRcute: that's assuming they are ide drives and not SATA drives
[23:22] <carpii> the microsoft ones arent worth the paper theyre written on
[23:22] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: Also, I have the headers patched as well I believe
[23:22] <sara_> carpii, for my cv
[23:22] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: I have the entire thing rebuilt. I had to rebuild the modules, image, and headers
[23:22] <sara_> carpii, for my cv/resume
[23:22] <puppiesRcute> im a girl think we all are confused with ubuntu but still like it just dont know how to use it
[23:22] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, I am saying that headers are a mysterious ubuntu thing
[23:22] <carpii> youd be better outting it down in the experience section
[23:22] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, you need to full kernel source in /usr/src/linux
[23:23] <carpii> or take general linux certifcations
[23:23] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, to do things the generic linux way
[23:23] <carpii> im not sure how many companies would think too much of ubuntu certs anyway tbh
[23:23] <Scunizi> puppiesRcute: well.. the drives not working typically doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu or you being a girl.. hopefully :)
[23:23] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: I have them :)
[23:23] <silentContender> How do you rip music off a CD as m4a using Sound Juicer, and still have it play on an Ipod
[23:23] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, symlinked to the correct place?
[23:23] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: They aren't symlinked, they have the actual data
[23:24] <sara_> puppiesRcute, shhhh no. see i too am a girl. the fact i lack a penus doesnt mean i get all light headed and confused.... im a technition mcdst with microsoft.... it takes time to know this stuff
[23:24] <silentContender> All of the m4a file ripped by Sound Juicer are skipped over by my Ipod
[23:24] <Scunizi> silentContender: mp3 is supported in ipod and many other places.. why would you want to keep it in m4a?
[23:24] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, you should always use symlink so when you update your kernel, you do not have to move the entire source tree
[23:24] <puppiesRcute> k il check both know for sure both drives work because before i took the other drive out the other worked fine and the other is brand new
[23:24] <brettley> how do i change a files permissions in the console?
[23:24] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: Yeah, which is why I haven't upgraded my kernel :P
[23:24] <silentContender> Scunizi, I read the quality is better and its a newer format
[23:24] <sara_> puppiesRcute, it ANGERS me to hear you say that, your just as valid as anyone else here.
[23:24] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, what does:   modprobe -l | grep nvidia   return?
[23:24] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: in /lib/modules/$kernelversion/build build should be symlinked to the version of kernel and it's source tree in /usr/src/linux or whatever name you used
[23:24] <Scunizi> brettley: sudo chmod <number> filename
[23:24] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: Nothing
[23:24] <Huufarted> brettley:  chmod *** <filename>
[23:25] <Huufarted> Brettley:  permission values are 421 for rwx
[23:25] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Ah, yes, they are properly linked
[23:25] <klasikahl> it seems that ssh ssh-agent is broken in jaunty.
[23:25] <Huufarted> brettley for all rwx all the way across it would be:  chmod 777 <filename>
[23:25] <Scunizi> silentContender: also propriatory like mp3 but locked to ipod.. nothing else will really use it.
[23:25] <puppiesRcute> i do honestly suck with computers am confused but learning girl power we are the smarter of the race so learning full heartedly
[23:25] <brettley> i just need to change my nvidia drivers so that steam can access them
[23:25] <brettley> (i think its 777_
[23:25] <brettley> )
[23:25] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, are you actually using a vanilla kernel?
[23:26] <puppiesRcute> thats the only issue i have had with ubuntu though
[23:26] <Scunizi> brettley: so you've installed the drivers and steam can't access them?
[23:26] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: I got the kernel source from the repos, went into a single config file, uncommented the HIGH_MEM64G flag, and rebuilt
[23:26] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: did you try running find /lib/modules/yourkernel -name \*nv*
[23:26] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Yeah I pastebinned it before
[23:26] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: http://dmsuperman.pastebinit.com/fa3956f
[23:26] <silentContender> Oh, didn't not know it was limited to ipod. I thought ACC was limited.  I know that ACC is essentially m4a, but iTunes differentiates between ACC and m4a
[23:26] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, it is recommended that you don't directly edit the kernel .config
[23:26] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: I think that's the pastebin
[23:26] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: doh! yea that link didn't seem to work..
[23:26] <gregspence> can anyone help me with ipforwarding - i have a vpn connection (pptp) into my ubuntu box, successfully authenticates however cannot get any traffic out "on to the net".  I have enabled ip forwarding in /etc/sysctl.conf however whenver I connect I still can't access any webpages over my vpn.  Any ideas?
[23:27] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, you should always use make menuconfig
[23:27] <puppiesRcute> but later all might try to fix or solve my problem
[23:27] <Scunizi> silentContender: I think m4a is acc just by a different name
[23:27] <puppiesRcute> ;)
[23:27] <brettley> Scunizi: well, i installed steam, and cant install any games (steam crashes) and the last things i see are something about not being able to access some nvidia things
[23:27] <taz> meho_r  all done..many thanks
[23:27] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman:  try paste.ubuntu.com for me
[23:27] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: I already did it, according to the guide that was on ubuntuforums.org which showed me how, and it's been working for about 6 months now
[23:27] <Huufarted> Does Steam have a Linux client or are you guys running it through Wine or something else?
[23:27] <brettley> wine
[23:27] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: http://dmsuperman.pastebin.com/fa3956f
[23:27] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, its because ubuntu doesn't really support modified kernels
[23:27] <Huufarted> gotcha
[23:27] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: I typed teh link wrong :P
[23:28] <silentContender> Scunizi,  I really don't know, but somehow iTunes can tell the difference between ACC and m4a.
[23:28] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, there are plenty of distros that do and will likely suite your needs better....
[23:28] <Scunizi> brettley: if the drivers are installed and functional then it must have something to do with steam.. I don't know anything about steam but if it installes in wine then you might check www.winehq.com for advice.
[23:28] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman:  lol np
[23:28] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman:  so what happens when you run.. insmod /kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
[23:28] <Improv> hmm. upstart.ubuntu.com is not correct for my install (refers to some nonexistent directories), but /etc/event.d seems to get what I want.
[23:28] <lithixium> AAC is the compression format, m4a is a container for that format (or others potentially)
[23:28] <Improv> s/get/hold/
[23:28] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: I _want_ to use ubuntu, and with my requirements my only option is to rebuild the kernel, which has already been done and now I'm trying to figure out why my nvidia drivers have suddenly stopped working out of no where
[23:29] <brettley> i already went there and they said that it was the drivers and id have to use the prepackaged ones, witch will crap my performance, and i am trying to figure another way out
[23:29] <Scunizi> silentContender: check this out .. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6266772
[23:29] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman:  /kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko I mean or /volatile/nvidia.ko
[23:29] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, nvidia drivers are built on a per-kernel basis
[23:29] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, that is why they quit working
[23:29] <roy_hobbs> when i install linux-source where does it go?
[23:29] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: video/nvidia is a directory
[23:30] <Scunizi> brettley: prepackaged meaning the ones directly off the nvidia site?
[23:30] <DexterF> roy_hobbs: dpkg -L linux-source
[23:30] <brettley> already have those
[23:30] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: you need to use the full path insmod /lib/modules/kernelversion/bla/bla/bla
[23:30] <brettley> and i tried the ones from the ubuntu repo
[23:30] <Scunizi> brettley: which version #?
[23:30] <brettley> 173 i belive
[23:30] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Odd, now the nvidia module is loaded
[23:30] <R0b0t1> What is the package for openoffice.org's Draw?
[23:30] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: ok what does dmesg stay?
[23:30] <spasticteapot> Does anyone here know why my M-Audio Audiophile USB won't work?
[23:30] <Titan8990> dmsuperman, do you have the nvidia driver defined in xorg.conf?
[23:30] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: And X works again :D
[23:31] <spasticteapot> When I plug it in, lsusb lists the M-Audio USB as a "Texas Instruments" device.
[23:31] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: hmm
[23:31] <spasticteapot> I tried the fix on the Ubuntu forums - no dice.
[23:31] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: that's not right
[23:31] <Huufarted> !xorg > huufarted
[23:31] <lithixium> r0bby, openoffice.org-draw
[23:31] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: question now is, why didn't it load on reboot
[23:31] <dmsuperman> Titan8990: I know this. I rebuilt my kernel over _six_ months ago. I last installed my driver about a month ago. I rebooted my machine yesterday, and it came back up fine. I rebooted it this morning, and all of a sudden it wasn't working. I didn't make any system changes. I didn't rebuild my kernel, nor my modules.
[23:31] <Scunizi> brettley: 173 was / is available in ubuntu so is 177 and now I believe 180.11.. so if you installed the drivers from nvidia incorrectly you'd end up with mixed results.. I just installed the 180.29 drivers today and they rock way better then  180.11 or .22
[23:31] <luke> hi there, how do i enable mod_rewrite in my apache settings
[23:31] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: That is the question :)
[23:31] <silentContender> Scunizi, I didn't understand much of the link, other than checking the specs (which I don't quite understand how to).
[23:31] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: try rebooting again
[23:32] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Alright. Luckily this is in irssi + screen so I don't have to leave ;)
[23:32] <luke>  i have manually created the symlink as well in the mod_enabled etc
[23:32] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: woot!
[23:32] <brettley> well when i tried the 180 or the 177 my screen went all funky
[23:32] <luke> any idea what i might be missing
[23:32] <luke> :(
[23:32] <Furu> guys what program should i use for burning dvd's etc?
[23:32] <^hashbang^> luke: type /join #apache
[23:32] <silentContender> Scunizi, Also I noticed that the m4a files do not play in iTunes either. Don't know it that's significant.
[23:32] <Titan8990> !burn | Furu
[23:33] <amathis> I cannot find anything on the internet about not being able to select anything except booting to first hard drive on the ubuntu install screen.. could someone please help
[23:33] <Scunizi> silentContender: the link says that there is no difference between m4a and acc .. they are the same.. lithixium said one is the codec and the other is the container for the codec.. so rip in mp3 or put rockbox on your ipod and use mp3 or ogg
[23:33] <^hashbang^> amathis: have you tried a different keyboard? different usb port?
[23:33] <Furu> ubottu what program would u recomend me to start out with? burning a iso:p
[23:34] <Scunizi> !rockbox | silentContender
[23:34] <Furu> hehe
[23:34] <Furu> my bad
[23:34] <Titan8990> Furu, are you using gnome?
[23:34] <amathis> ^hashbang^ yes, different keyboards, and they are not usb
[23:34] <bashir> where are cookies in firefox stored in linux
[23:34] <Furu> Titan8990 im using mint..
[23:34] <lithixium> silentContender, Scunizi I would agree, use Rockbox and rip in Vorbis if your iPod supports Rockbox, otherwise decent quality MP3 is probably best
[23:34] <^hashbang^> amathis: hmm, very odd. do you have a usb keyboard?
[23:34] <silentContender> Scunizi, I would gladly put rockbox on my IPod, but it's a Gen 2 nano, so it doesn't work.  I really don't want to convert ~100-150 songs from m4a to mp3
[23:34] <Scunizi> bashir: somewhere in /home/<user name>/.mozilla
[23:35] <Titan8990> Furu, which uses what desktop/window manager?
[23:35] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Yup, doesn't work upon reboot
[23:35] <lithixium> silentContender, These m4a songs, were they purchased from iTunes?
[23:35] <amathis> ^hashbang^ no.. the thing is, the arrow keys work, and so does the enter key because it asks me to select language
[23:35] <silentContender> Scunizi, and Lithixium, Though if I have to I will convert to mp3
[23:35] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: dude that's messed up. Only think I can think of now is to add that insmod command to /etc/rc.local
[23:35] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Hehe, hackish but meh it works :P
[23:35] <silentContender> lithixium, the m4a songs were ripped off of CDs using sound juicer
[23:36] <amathis> ^hashbang^ and the option 'boot to first hard drive' works
[23:36] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: yea, I hack junk all the time =)
[23:36] <^hashbang^> amathis: you said your arrow keys work, so why can't you choose the install option?
[23:36] <silentContender> lithixium, I have not found any on net about this problem yet, so I don't know what I need to do.
[23:36] <Scunizi> silentContender: but if they are not recognized by the ipod or playable, converting them won't do much good either.
[23:36] <alpha4> Hi question about flash player
[23:37] <^hashbang^> !ask | alpha4
[23:37] <amathis> ^hashbang^, excuse me.. I can select it, but when I hit enter nothing happens.
[23:37] <alpha4> should i download from adobe flash player?
[23:37] <silentContender> Scunizi, the Ipod recognizes the song.  It just decides to display the name and skip it.
[23:37] <^hashbang^> amathis: bad ISO image?
[23:37] <Scunizi> silentContender: so it doesn't play
[23:37] <amathis> hmm
[23:37] <silentContender> Scunizi, Yes
[23:37] <amathis> maybeso
[23:37] <^hashbang^> amathis: I've seen something like that before with fedora, and it was a bad cd
[23:37] <lithixium> silentContender, I assume they play fine on your computer
[23:37] <Huufarted> alpha4, I use the Adobe one and it works very well for me
[23:38] <roy_hobbs> I need help setting up the network cards on an Ubuntu installation.  lshq has them as UNCLAIMED.
[23:38] <Huufarted> but it *IS* closed source
[23:38] <roy_hobbs> lshw*
[23:38] <^hashbang^> Huufarted: only one that I know of that will work with 64bit ubuntu
[23:38] <silentContender> lithixium, they play fine on Amarok, but will not at all on iTunes. (I dual-boot)
[23:38] <alpha4> Does it make any difference using a x64 or x86 ubuntu?
[23:38] <alpha4> How i ccheck if my installation is a x64
[23:39] <bashir> i dont see anything in .mozilla that pertains to cookies
[23:39] <bashir> only has stuff about cache there
[23:39] <Scunizi> alpha4: if you're new to linux / ubuntu et.al.  then stick with x86.. x64 can be a headache
[23:39] <amathis> is there a small iso that installs from the net"?
[23:39] <silentContender> I guess I'll just put a thread up in the forums.  Have to go. Thanks anyways.
[23:39] <^hashbang^> alpha4: open a terminal and type uname -a if you see x86_64, you are running a 64bit verison
[23:39] <Huufarted> Hashbang, good info on the 64 bit.  My desktop is 64 bit and I'll be going that way if I decide to go Ubuntu on it.
[23:39] <djhash> !netinsall
[23:40] <alpha4> ^hashbang^ it say i686 gnu / linux
[23:40] <djhash> !install
[23:40] <CokeNCode> hey, guys, I'm looking for some virus protection software for linux
[23:40] <CokeNCode> any suggestions
[23:40] <CokeNCode> preferably something that i can apt-get install
[23:40] <^hashbang^> Huufarted: yea, I had a heck of a time getting it to work.. then I found the labs.adobe.com site =)
[23:40] <Huufarted> Amathis, the iso for Ubuntu should have an MD5 hash on the website
[23:40] <spritle> you're an iiot?
[23:40] <spritle> idiot
[23:40] <brettley> linux=unvirusable
[23:40] <brettley> =)
[23:40] <randal> i was wondering if it is posible to put the live cd on a external harddrive like a usb start up disk but on a harddrive
[23:40] <^hashbang^> alpha4: ok cool your running 32bit
[23:40] <Rolcol> CokeNCode: ClamTK
[23:40] <CokeNCode> thanks Rolanditu\Afk
[23:40] <Huufarted> Get an MD5 hash program  and just check that MD5 hash against the website
[23:40] <klasikahl> lmao.
[23:40] <Rolcol> CokeNCode: It's only for Windows Viruses.  No Linux viruses out in the wild.  Although... You could still get a trojan.
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> CokeNCode,  linux AV sof3ware scans windows files for windos viruses normally  :)
[23:41] <Huufarted> that will tell you if your download was complete or not
[23:41] <Scunizi> lithixium: looks like silentContender left 'cause the conversation wasn't going fast enough... I suspect he had issues on the windows/mac side reading the file system on the linux side or something to that effect..
[23:41] <alpha4> ^hashbang^ i have a 4gb of ram would there be any use if i'm using a x86
[23:41] <CokeNCode> hmmm, I actually want to scan some files on my website
[23:41] <klasikahl> o noes.  a windows virus.
[23:41] <Huufarted> randal, yes it is possible, but would you mind me asking why you want to put it on a hard drive?
[23:41] <CokeNCode> it's infected :(
[23:41] <klasikahl> wipe, reinstall.
[23:41] <lithixium> Scunizi, yeah, it's an odd one - I'm in a chat on another channel as well, so my responses are quite slow :P
[23:42] <^hashbang^> alpah4: 32bit only sees up to 3.2g (sometimes less, sometimes more). 64bit is the way to go for full 4G+ support
[23:42] <randal> Huufarted: more room i only got a 2 gb usbstick how do you do this
[23:42] <Rolcol> CokeNCode: Linux server hosting the website?
[23:42] <klasikahl> CokeNCode: call me paranoid, but there is no un-rooting of a compromised machine.  same goes for viruses.
[23:42] <Huufarted> Randal, I'm just wondering why you wouldn't just install from a burned CD?
[23:42] <CokeNCode> Rolcol, yup.
[23:42] <brettley> randal: why do you want a LiveCD on a external harddrive?
[23:42] <CokeNCode> The thing is, what can I do. It's not my machine
[23:42] <randal> Huufarted: im useing it as a portable comuter type of thing where i can go to computer to computer
[23:42] <Scunizi> lithixium: naw.. you were doing fine.. he was just a little impatient.. that can happen on irc.. it's not like a phone call where dead air means you've lost the other parties attention. :)
[23:42] <^hashbang^> "unrooting" there's a new word for the day =)
[23:42] <Rolcol> someone must have bruteforced themselves in and done it manually
[23:43] <klasikahl> CokeNCode: dude... you can't get a virus on linux.  if you suspect you hvave an infected file, delete it.
[23:43] <CokeNCode> klasikahl, I'm talking about a server
[23:43] <Huufarted> ah...  gotcha.  Yes it is possible to do, and there are guides out there for it.
[23:43] <klasikahl> CokeNCode: so what?
[23:43] <CokeNCode> and you can get a virus on linux
[23:43] <klasikahl> CokeNCode: you don't have `rm` on your server?
[23:43] <Rolcol> klasikahl: yes you can.  No system is unprotected.  You can't get one from just browsing the internet but you can if you download a file and give it root privileges
[23:43] <CokeNCode> lol
[23:43] <klasikahl> CokeNCode: rootkits != viruses
[23:43] <Huufarted> Randal, google this:  "install Ubuntu from USB hard drive" and you should find results
[23:43] <Scunizi> CokeNCode: you can get hacked.. but a virus.. chances are VERY unlikely
[23:43] <CokeNCode> klasikahl, do you do any hosting? you never get full access to the server
[23:43] <kane77> klasikahl, nothing is impossible, but on linux viruses are highly unprobable
[23:43] <alpha4> ^hashbang^ let say i have all my settings orsetting backup and can i reinstall ubntu to 64 and use the settings for x64 ubnut?
[23:44] <randal> Huufarted: ok thank you
[23:44] <klasikahl> kane77: thanks i know, i'm a pen tester.
[23:44] <kane77> ;)
[23:44] <^hashbang^> CokeNCode: if you think you have a virus under linux, install ClamAV and let it run... if your system has been hacked, I would backup your data and reload... ASAP!
[23:44] <klasikahl> CokeNCode: you pay for a server that you can't delete files from?
[23:44] <klasikahl> CokeNCode: ftp?
[23:44] <CokeNCode> klasikahl, listen carefully
[23:44] <CokeNCode> When you pay for hosting
[23:44] <CokeNCode> you don't get full access to the server
[23:44] <^hashbang^> alpha4: are you referring to desktop settings? sure
[23:44] <CokeNCode> you only get access to your stuff
[23:44] <Huufarted> Klasikahl, CokeNCode is right.  You very very very rarely get even ROOT access to a hosted server.
[23:45] <klasikahl> since when do you need root access to delete a file?!
[23:45] <^hashbang^> CokeNCode: get a new hosting provider that takes care of there servers =)
[23:45] <Huufarted> if it's part of the hosted OS, you can't delete it if you're not root
[23:45] <CokeNCode> lol
[23:45] <CokeNCode> ^hashbang^, that's the plan
[23:45] <klasikahl> so you maanged to get your server rooted?
[23:45] <klasikahl> gj
[23:45] <^hashbang^> CokeNCode: I use siteground.... they are good and the pricing is nice
[23:45] <alpha4> ^hashbang^ yeap
[23:46] <musikgoat|main> this seems to be way off topic
[23:46] <CokeNCode> klasikahl, don't blame me :/
[23:46] <Huufarted> CokeNCode, at the same time if you got the server infected through your actions, then it's not possible the virus can do anything that you wouldn't be able to do and therefore you WILL be able to delete it.
[23:46] <klasikahl> the only way you could possibly get an infected file in your "os" is if you have been rooted (rootkit).  in which case, give up.  you can't ensure integrity of anything on the system.
[23:46] <Scunizi> CokeNCode: I use aplus.net.. same .. although siteground caters to joomla which you might be running.
[23:46] <^hashbang^> !ot | musikgoat|main
[23:46] <adac> What is a good backup program with a webinterface?
[23:46] <CokeNCode> Huufarted, great, now you're blaming me too :(
[23:46] <Huufarted> CokeNCode, if the provider is the one that infected the server, then they deserve to get dropped
[23:46] <Huufarted> CokeNCode, I said *IF*
[23:46] <CokeNCode> lol
[23:47] <Huufarted> IF.  Big letters IF
[23:47] <klasikahl> CokeNCode: wait, let's start with your premise.  what makes you think this linux box is compromised?
[23:47] <Huufarted> there are only 2 options.  EIther you did it or they did it.  If you did it, you CAN Delete it.  If they did it, it's their fault.
[23:47] <CokeNCode> anyone familiar with this 8speed virus ?
[23:47] <Itacious> Hey all, I have xfce set up with a 48px panel, iconbox, etc. (a la Windows 7). I have just discovered (or rediscovered) that the xfce tray supports multiple columns, so now the icons aren't huge (YES!). But, if I put the standard xfce volume applet down there, it blows up to 48x48px. So, in short, does anybody know of a package that is a volume manger(?) for the system tray? Thanks in advance.
[23:47] <amathis> ok
[23:47] <klasikahl> Huufarted: not true.  if he did it and the code managed to exploit a service that was running with too much privlege, it is easily conceivable the code is beyond his permissions now
[23:48] <^hashbang^> adac: try http://www.tufat.com/s_mybackup_web_database_exporter.htm
[23:48] <amathis> It says the md5 sum of the iso I burned, and the one on the ubuntu site for 8.10 Desktop amd64 match
[23:48] <^hashbang^> !ot | klasikahl | Huufarted
[23:48] <^hashbang^> amathis: hmm, ok maybe a bad burn on the cd... try re-buring
[23:49] <^hashbang^> amathis: hmm, ok maybe a bad burn on the cd... try re-burning
[23:49] <amathis> ugh
[23:49] <amathis> ok
[23:49] <Itacious> Anybody?
[23:49] <^hashbang^> amathis: this a laptop or a desktop?
[23:49] <bernz_> amathis, did you mean they DON'T match?
[23:49] <^hashbang^> Itacious: try /join #xubuntu
[23:49] <JamesG> Does anyone know if I take 4 drives which are currently in a RAID5 array (software) and connect them to a completely new motherboard, will the array continue to work as before? I know ubuntu mounts stuff by UUID, which I assume is going to change when I switch motherboards?
[23:50] <Titan8990> Itacious, not sure about the ubuntu package but im my distro the package that contains toolbar volume control is:   xfce4-icons
[23:50] <cees> hey all, i have been googling for a while to get some kind of fan control to ubuntu i just installed, i have abit ab9 quadgt motherboard bit it seems that i cannot find any utility to get control of fans, any hints how to proceed :)?
[23:50] <Itacious> hashbang, it's not really a xubuntu question.
[23:50] <Titan8990> Itacious, the program is: xfce-mixer
[23:50] <CokeNCode> hmmm, what's a good program on linux for doing some database administration. I'm looking for something like sqlyog
[23:51] <^hashbang^> Itacious: xubuntu = xfce ubuntu
[23:51] <spaceBARbarian> how can i avoid having to type ./ every time i execute a program ?
[23:51] <steve-o> i am new to ubuntu it says network manager is installed but i cannot figure out where it is or how to run it - PLEASE HELP
[23:51] <bernz> (ah, i would have guessed the X stood for just X[11])
[23:51] <^hashbang^> spaceBARbarian: using ./ is like double clicking in windows =)
[23:51] <CokeNCode> spaceBARbarian, I think you need to do chmod or something like that
[23:52] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Where did you suggest I put that again?
[23:52] <bjb1959> any ideas how to get a tv card and a usb webcam to play nice on intrepid?
[23:52] <CokeNCode> sorry, that answer sucked, but no one else answered
[23:52] <CokeNCode> it's something along those lines
[23:52] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: /etc/rc2.d/rc.local
[23:52] <bernz> spaceBARbarian, instead of circumventing, learn about why you need it, and then you'll *want* to do it ;-)
[23:52] <Itacious> hashbang, what i mean is that this "tray volume manager" could work in the gnome, kde, xfce, etc. tray. It is not specifically for xubuntu/xfce.
[23:52] <Itacious> but i'll try #xubuntu
[23:52] <spaceBARbarian> bernz: i just hate having to do the ./ in bash and in csh it just works so i dunno :P
[23:53] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: There is no rc.local in there, should I create it?
[23:53] <bernz> spaceBARbarian, but if you really hate it, you might be able to do a trick with 'alias' ('man alias' to learn more)
[23:53] <spaceBARbarian> okay thks
[23:53] <Rustyt0n> Hi
[23:53] <Rustyt0n> can any1 help me plz?
[23:53] <Rustyt0n> I have a question
[23:53] <^hashbang^> Itacious: xfce is part of xubuntu, so the best place to have those questions regarding xfce would be xubuntu.. imho thats where I'd start being ubuntu is gnome native =)
[23:53] <musikgoat|main> !ask | Rustyt0n
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> ask the question  then? :)
[23:54] <bernz> spaceBARbarian, failing that, read the docs/manual for the shell you're using (probably 'bash', maybe 'ash', maybe 'csh', maybe 'ksh') and it might tell you a nick option you can use by setting an env variable
[23:54] <Rustyt0n> Oh sorry lol, im new.
[23:54] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: /etc/rc.local
[23:54] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: sorry
[23:54] <bjb1959> webcam and tv card together, any ideas how to get that to work?
[23:54] <steve-o> help anyone network manager
[23:54] <Rustyt0n> thing is, im usin troppinx on live-cd but it doesnt show my MSI wirelless adaptar, even thou is plugged
[23:54] <jtaji> spaceBARbarian: the normal way would be to put it or a link to it in a place in your path, ~/bin might be a good choice
[23:55] <spaceBARbarian> bernz: maybe something in the .bashrc file ?
[23:55] <Rustyt0n> i tryied usin a wget command and tar command to the driver files
[23:55] <^hashbang^> Itacious: you could also try #xfce
[23:55] <Rolcol> I like wget combined with tar
[23:55] <Rustyt0n> but it gives me an error about not enough space left on divice or something like that
[23:55] <Huufarted> In response to spaceBARbarian's question, why is ./ required anyway?  Can someone explain that?
[23:55] <Scunizi> I have a server on my lan that I access with ssh by doing ssh <server>@<ip_address> .. typical.. but I'd like to just do ssh <server>@<server_name> .. is that possible and how?
[23:55] <^hashbang^> Itacious: i'm just saying that cause I think you would have better luck getting your question answered
[23:56] <^hashbang^> Scunizi: use /etc/hosts
[23:56] <steve-o> is anyone listening
[23:56] <jtaji> Huufarted: it's required when the program is not in your $PATH, for example it would prevent say a trojan 'ls' in a directory being executed over the one in your path
[23:56] <^hashbang^> !ask | steve-o
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> steve-o,  you may want to clrify the question a bit more.
[23:56] <Scunizi> ^hashbang^: that's kinda what I figured.. but how do I reference it in there to make it work?
[23:56] <Rustyt0n> Is there a way to install the MSI wireless adapters on the live-cd troppix to use the airodump
[23:56] <Rustyt0n> drivers...
[23:56] <Huufarted> Oh, I gotcha Jtaji.  Thanks
[23:56] <SchmittyDoesIt> off topic question. Is mac OSX based on debian os or bsd. I have heard both.
[23:56] <Huufarted> bsd
[23:56] <^hashbang^> Scunizi: sudo vi /etc/hosts and the format is ipaddess  space  hostname
[23:56] <Scunizi> bsd
[23:56] <SchmittyDoesIt> ic
[23:57] <musikgoat|main> Rustyt0n: troppix is not supported here
[23:57] <evilGUI> SchmittyDoesIt: FreeBSD.
[23:57] <Scunizi> ^hashbang^: that's it?  too easy :)
[23:57] <Rustyt0n> where can i refer to get some advise on troppix?
[23:57] <SchmittyDoesIt> thankyou, thankyou, and thankyou
[23:57] <steve-o> i used sudo apt-get install networkmanager & it says it is already installed but i cant find it
[23:57] <bernz> spaceBARbarian, yes, in an .rc, you could set that option, so you shell would by default have it set
[23:57] <^hashbang^> Scunizi: yea that's it =)
[23:57] <bjb1959> can't get usb webcam to work with tv card, any ideas
[23:57] <jtaji> Rustyt0n: try ##linux
[23:57] <Rustyt0n> plz help me, i thougth it would be the same coomands to get the drivers and install em
[23:57] <musikgoat|main> Rustyt0n: have you tried #troppix ?
[23:57] <Rustyt0n> ty
[23:57] <Rustyt0n> no, thx alot
[23:57] <bernz> spaceBARbarian, so it might be something like MAKE_MY_LIFE_EASIER which you set to 'yes' or something
[23:57] <Itacious> I mean, in this instance I am using xfce. But, this volume manager I'm looking for (if such a thing exists) is supposed to be in the system tray, not a panel applet. So it could be used not only in xfce's tray, but also gnome's tray and kde's tray. So it's not necessarily xfce related, i'm just looking for a volume control for the tray, which in this case I would be using in xfce.
[23:57] <Itacious> afk
[23:58] <bernz> spaceBARbarian, only, obviously, called something more clever and pertinent ;-)
[23:58] <Titan8990> Rustyt0n, if I am not mistaken there is only aircrack injection patches for broadcom and madwifi drivers
[23:58] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: It kind of worked, but I rarely reboot so I'm not going to question it haha
[23:58] <^hashbang^> Itacious: Google?
[23:58] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: sorry man...
[23:59] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: It's cool, I'm in X now
[23:59] <steve-o> Dr_Willis do you have any suggestions
[23:59] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: I'm hoping I'll not have these X issues with Jaunty
[23:59] <Rustyt0n> MSI us54se II its not broadcom its RL i think
[23:59] <Scunizi> ^hashbang^: ok.. that's done.. worked.. I guess I can't have 2 ssh sessions to the same machine from one different machine.