| === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| shtylman | Riddell: I have changed over to KIcon | 00:18 |
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| vorian | neversfelde: uploaded, thanks for your contribution to Kubuntu | 00:30 |
| neversfelde | vorian: thanks and I love kubuntu :) | 00:30 |
| vorian | :) | 00:30 |
| Riddell | shtylman: lovely | 00:34 |
| neversfelde | nhandler: so you consider to do a build in ppa for new upstream releases and mention it in the bug report? | 00:44 |
| ryanakca | Does anybody know who the sysadmins in charge of the wiki are? | 00:44 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: Ng? I'm not sure | 00:44 |
| vorian | isn't it newz2000? | 00:44 |
| Riddell | he's not a sysadmin | 00:45 |
| vorian | hm | 00:45 |
| ryanakca | vorian: Don't think so, he had to bug the sysadmins for a... period of time... to get a small HTML fix (get rid of the obsolete tabs in the current wiki theme) in... | 00:45 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: thanks, I'll try poking him | 00:46 |
| nhandler | neversfelde: I asked for the PPA build simply because I don't have a pbuilder chroot available right now. But it never hurts to mention in the bug report that it builds in a PPA and provide a link | 00:46 |
| _neversfelde | ahh | 00:54 |
| _neversfelde | my isp, re | 00:54 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| shtylman | whats the best way to test a new plasma widget without a system wide install of the widget? can I run the plasmoid viewer locally or specify a search path? | 00:56 |
| neversfelde | nhandler: thanks, I will incroporate your info in the future, thanks a lot | 00:58 |
| shtylman | Riddell: GTK fronend parity? would that be the next best step? | 00:59 |
| Riddell | shtylman: possibly plugins can be installed to any directory in kde4-config --path lib | 00:59 |
| Riddell | shtylman: load up the gtk frontend and see what's different | 00:59 |
| shtylman | Riddell: are we trying to look the same or just provide the same features? | 01:01 |
| Riddell | shtylman: same features | 01:02 |
| Riddell | well, look much the same too, within the normal gnome/kde style differences | 01:03 |
| Riddell | shtylman: I believe the timezone map has changed in the gnome one, that's probably quite hard to do though | 01:03 |
| Riddell | shtylman: the language selection page might have changed too | 01:03 |
| shtylman | Riddell: ok, I will take a look at the differences and compare/contrast then we can look at what we wanna and can realistically pull I suppose | 01:05 |
| Riddell | shtylman: excellent :) | 01:06 |
| Riddell | shtylman: self.userinterface.setWindowIcon(KIcon("ubiquity.png")) no final .png needed? | 01:07 |
| Riddell | shtylman: you kept the #os.setegid(1000) commented out? | 01:07 |
| txwikinger | Good morning Riddell... still up? | 01:10 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: briefly | 01:13 |
| txwikinger | :D | 01:13 |
| shtylman | Riddell: thanks for the .png catch and I took out the os.setegid and changed it to drop_privileges from the ubiquity library, hopefully that fix won't mess with the rest of the installer | 01:23 |
| shtylman | who do I talk to about the default keyboard shortcuts for kwin? is that a kubuntu thing or a kde thing? | 01:38 |
| seele | kde | 01:38 |
| seele | we dont change the defaults | 01:38 |
| shtylman | k, thanks | 01:38 |
| vorian | ScottK: art thou about? | 02:15 |
| ScottK | Just returned. | 02:15 |
| vorian | care to look at a small rebuild? (of a large package) | 02:16 |
| ScottK | vorian: Which and why? | 02:16 |
| vorian | we have a new soprano, kdebase-runtime should be rebuilt | 02:17 |
| vorian | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/redland/+bug/317271 | 02:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 317271 in redland "nepomukservicestub causes crash in Soprano::Redland backend" [High,Triaged] | 02:18 |
| ScottK | Did the ABI change? | 02:18 |
| ScottK | Is the rebuilding the bug fix or was the soprano upload the bug fix? | 02:18 |
| vorian | nevermind, the soprano did | 02:18 |
| vorian | sorry for the ping | 02:18 |
| ScottK | No problem. | 02:19 |
| ScottK | Anyone fixing the kdeedu FTBFS? | 02:22 |
| vorian | i can looks at it | 02:22 |
| ScottK | OK. Looks easy enough to deal with. | 02:22 |
| * ScottK is feeling poorly tonight. | 02:23 | |
| vorian | :/ | 02:23 |
| vorian | ScottK: yeah, should be easy enough | 02:24 |
| vorian | Python: KDE Python support <http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Python> | 03:48 |
| vorian | Needed for Python bindings to the marble widget. | 03:48 |
| vorian | would this be anything other thank python-kde-dev? | 03:48 |
| ScottK | That's the KDE3 one, isn't it? | 04:36 |
| a|wen | Riddell: FYI, kdeedu failed to build with the marble changes you introduced, dh_install can't find debian/tmp//usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/marble.so | 05:50 |
| ScottK | a|wen: vorian was looking at a fix. | 05:50 |
| a|wen | perfect :) | 05:50 |
| ScottK | I didn't hear from him if he got done. | 05:50 |
| a|wen | a man on the job, is a good start though | 05:51 |
| ScottK | a|wen: So it looks like we'll have a complete KDE stack on Power PC soon too. | 05:55 |
| a|wen | it starts looking really good with the ports | 05:55 |
| ScottK | The sparc and ia64 kernels got fixed today, so they're next. | 05:56 |
| a|wen | maybe I should considers installing jaunty/lpia on my eee (intel atom) soon | 05:56 |
| ScottK | a|wen: What do you have on there now? | 05:57 |
| ScottK | rgreening was saying the same about his acer. Perhaps you two could collaborate on some how-to. | 05:58 |
| a|wen | it's my stock-intrepid, with 4.1.4 though ... so i'll at least wait till 4.1.4 is out of proposed | 05:58 |
| ScottK | OK. | 05:58 |
| ScottK | Did we already discuss do you have a USB printer? | 05:58 |
| ScottK | Any idea what mips64 is in? I saw a reference to bootstrapping mips64 on #ubuntu-devel earlier today. | 06:01 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It looks like plasma-widget-quickaccess ended up in Universe on amd64, but not on i386 .... | 06:02 |
| a|wen | ScottK: no printer closer than 3,5K miles :/ ... but yeah, we need to find a tester | 06:06 |
| ScottK | I just remembered I have a broken usb printer. It won't print, but I wonder if it would still get reconized .... | 06:07 |
| ScottK | And I could even find it .... | 06:09 |
| * ScottK tests. | 06:09 | |
| a|wen | :) | 06:12 |
| ScottK | I think it's a no test. It found the printer, but didn't pop-up, which is bad, but it appears to be a obscure model we don't have a ppd for, so I suspect the lack of pop-up is appropriate. | 06:27 |
| a|wen | it needs some kind of ppd to auto-detect afaik | 06:31 |
| ScottK | I deleted it and tried to add it manually and there was no ppd for the model in question when I looked. | 06:35 |
| ScottK | vorian: The build-dep you were looking for was python-kde4-dev. You might want to look into indi too. It didn't seem to find that. | 06:44 |
| jussi01 | Hrm, getting an Error on boot in jaunty, still loads, but is this a bug? "ata6: SRST failed: err no 16" | 06:48 |
| ScottK | Does Mr. Google have anything to say about it? | 06:50 |
| jussi01 | a little, trying to make sense of it, so asking also ;) - most of the stuff here is ancient though | 06:51 |
| ScottK | I suspect it is a bug, but I've no idea if it's enough of one to care. | 06:52 |
| jussi01 | looks like it might be just a module blacklist needed | 06:53 |
| jussi01 | yeah, this seems to be the same issue: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/printthread.php?t=169283 | 06:54 |
| shtylman | Riddell: I did some more work on the ubiquity installer (took screencaps of the gtk one and the kde one to compare...will post those at some point) I pushed to launchpad although it is still a work in progress I changed the timezone map to the one the gtk guys use and you can click timezone, also changed the advance dialog field for the grub location to a combo box again as the gnome guys have it | 07:14 |
| ScottK | jussi01: Yeah, if you've got that controller it sounds like. | 07:16 |
| ScottK | Personally I think if you have to manually blacklist something there is a bug, but I'm not sure on exactly what. | 07:16 |
| Sput | Riddell: ever tried the latest quassel package witih qt 4.5? | 08:21 |
| jussi01 | speaking of which, do we have a qt 4.5 package somewhere? | 08:24 |
| * jussi01 waves at Sput | 08:24 | |
| Lure | jussi01: rgreening had some in his PPA, but not sure about the quality | 08:38 |
| jussi01 | Lure: ahh, thanks, Ill ask him about it when he is around :) | 08:39 |
| Lure | jussi01: I tried it the same day he created it, but there was this kdm regression, so I switched back and did not try afterwards | 08:40 |
| jussi01 | Lure: if you put your nickserv pass as the server password in quassel, itll identify before you hit the channels ;) | 08:46 |
| Lure | jussi01: under ServerInfo? will try that... | 08:48 |
| jussi01 | Lure: yep | 08:48 |
| Lure | jussi01: seems to work! so then I do not need Auto Identify at all? | 08:52 |
| jussi01 | ;) | 08:53 |
| Lure | jussi01: thanks | 08:53 |
| * Lure does another try w/o auto identify... | 08:53 | |
| * Sput waves at jussi01 | 09:23 | |
| jussi01 | heya Sput | 09:24 |
| Riddell | Sput: no I've not tried qt 4.5 recently | 09:35 |
| Sput | Riddell: ah ok... if you have a chance, please let me know. we have changed something that we believe could make it work, but I have no way to test currently | 09:37 |
| Riddell | do we have a recent quassel? | 09:59 |
| Riddell | 0.4.0~git090211 seems recent | 10:02 |
| Sput | yeah, that should have the 4.5 fix | 10:02 |
| Sput | the *supposed* fix | 10:03 |
| Riddell | kdeedu is getting far too big | 10:08 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: MoDaX was already complaining to tackat about that | 10:08 |
| Nightrose | afair he promised to split some stuff | 10:09 |
| Nightrose | but no idea if and when he'll do that | 10:09 |
| === quassel19 is now known as Riddell-quassel | ||
| Riddell-quassel | Sput: seems to be working | 10:17 |
| Sput | \o/ | 10:17 |
| Sput | that's very good news | 10:17 |
| Sput | thank god EgS remembered that TTlabs blog entry | 10:17 |
| Riddell-quassel | ooh, it's got a toolbar | 10:18 |
| Sput | thanks for testing that out :) | 10:18 |
| * EgS feels highlighted | 10:53 | |
| EgS | oh that's great news! | 10:54 |
| jussi01 | Riddell-quassel: is that rgreening 4.5 package ok? reasonably usable? | 10:54 |
| Riddell | jussi01: seems to be | 11:03 |
| jussi01 | might give it a go then :) | 11:04 |
| Sput | jussi01: and tell me if that quassel package works for you too then! | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | hi there :) | 12:06 |
| ghostcube | hi | 12:07 |
| seele | Sput: ping | 13:22 |
| seele | ScottK-desktop: is 0211 the latest quassel in your ppa? | 13:24 |
| Sput | seele: pong | 13:34 |
| seele | Sput: i'm wondering if i have an older quassel so it might not matter | 13:37 |
| Sput | seele: well, what's the issue? | 13:37 |
| seele | Sput: were you guys still working on getting a channel selected in the list by default? | 13:38 |
| Sput | (2/11 should be the latest PPA build afaik) | 13:38 |
| Sput | seele: yes | 13:38 |
| Sput | that is still on the list | 13:38 |
| seele | also, i saw people talking about grabbing the username too instead of just quassel | 13:38 |
| seele | ok | 13:38 |
| Sput | that is already done | 13:38 |
| Sput | but does not work on some kubuntu systems, bugfix pending :) | 13:38 |
| seele | also, what about opening the network dialog on first start so the user can configure/connect immediately? | 13:38 |
| seele | hah figures | 13:38 |
| Sput | well, I am thinking about this - there already is a network configured by default, so I don't see that making sense too much | 13:39 |
| Sput | and for connecting there now is a shiny toolbar button saying "Connect" | 13:39 |
| Sput | or would it make sense to pop up the dialog in any case, so users have an urge to double-check the defaults work for them? | 13:40 |
| seele | Sput: i'm just thinking about the first time connecting ever, not subsequent use.. | 13:41 |
| Sput | yes | 13:41 |
| Sput | seele: so you'd think even with a default network and channel pre-defined, it'd make sense to open the network dialog on first run? | 13:41 |
| * Sput is not opposed, just undecided :) | 13:42 | |
| seele | Sput: it will only make connecting easier i think | 13:42 |
| Sput | true that | 13:42 |
| seele | after the user has connected once, it might not be necessary | 13:42 |
| Sput | if something pops into the user's face | 13:42 |
| Sput | after that, quassel will auto-reconnect anyway :) | 13:42 |
| seele | especially since the user might not be a keen on irc, remember we use irc as a support mechanism | 13:42 |
| Sput | actually we could make quassel automatically connect on first run too, but I think that would be too drastic | 13:43 |
| Sput | users might not like going online without clicking, especially if they don't know the program | 13:43 |
| seele | yes, i think regular irc users wouldnt appreciate that | 13:43 |
| seele | so maybe still use the Configure Networks dialog, but instead of Ok and Cancel, we have Connect and Close | 13:44 |
| seele | (or Close and Connect.. hmm) | 13:44 |
| Sput | hmm, I think OK and Cancel are important for HIG though | 13:45 |
| Sput | but we can add a nice shiny extra button somewhere | 13:45 |
| Sput | we used to have that "Connect Now" button, the code is still there even | 13:45 |
| seele | OK Cancel are for the configuration dialog, but if you use it as a connect now dialog, the buttons will be different | 13:47 |
| seele | it doesnt make sense that OK would connect. you would want a button that says Connect. at the same time, you wouldnt need an OK button in that case, because what does OK do? | 13:48 |
| seele | so it's almost the same dialog, but not. specifically it is a connection dialog instead of a config dialol | 13:48 |
| seele | that is, if you want to do it that way | 13:48 |
| Sput | hmmmm... within the settings dialog, a connect now button would keep the dialog open and connect in the background | 13:48 |
| seele | why would it keep it open? maybe i dont understand how the dialog works | 13:49 |
| Sput | (which leads to another host of problems, such as that the settings first need to be applied before connecting, so we disabled that functionality for now) | 13:49 |
| seele | i just thought you could use the same dialog design so you dont have to replicate too much code | 13:49 |
| Sput | if used stand-alone, it could be quite elegant to do it like this | 13:49 |
| Sput | yes | 13:49 |
| Sput | I like that idea | 13:49 |
| Sput | take the UI, put it in a standalone container, use a Connect button rather than OK, apply + connect automatically | 13:49 |
| Sput | plus a neat little checkbox "[ ] Don't show again" | 13:50 |
| seele | sounds like you got it :) | 13:50 |
| Sput | k | 13:50 |
| * Sput updates tracking bug | 13:50 | |
| Sput | seele: thx for that inspiration, I kept thinking about how to do that elegantly for a while now :) | 13:52 |
| seele | i'm here to help :) | 13:52 |
| Lure | Riddell: one MIR looks ok (bug 325858), not sure what In progress means (and who does something now) | 14:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 325858 in lensfun "Main inclusion request for lensfun" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325858 | 14:39 |
| Lure | opencv one need more work (I need to backport some warning fixes from SVN) | 14:39 |
| a|wen | Riddell: our arts-removal is almost done: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RemoveArts ... but we have some binary package removals left; is that something you can handle | 14:45 |
| Riddell | a|wen: can do if there's a list | 14:47 |
| Riddell | Lure: I can promote to main if you need me to | 14:47 |
| Lure | Riddell: not sure if this is what "In progress status | 14:48 |
| Lure | means | 14:48 |
| Riddell | Lure: I think asac is just waiting for a final ack from kees | 14:49 |
| a|wen | Riddell: all the packages on that wiki-page marked with "needs binary package removal" ... or in short all on that page ending in -arts | 14:49 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok | 14:49 |
| * Lure has added digikam to Todo list to make status transparent | 14:50 | |
| Lure | is there any progress on k3b front? do we have it in some ppa to play with? | 14:51 |
| * Lure notices that k3b is not on the Todo list | 14:51 | |
| Riddell | tonio has a version in his PPA, it didn't burn DVDs for me | 14:52 |
| * Lure checks if something new was committed in SVN | 14:53 | |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| ScottK | It's in rgreening's PPA. | 15:04 |
| * ScottK no notices that was 6 hours ago. | 15:04 | |
| ScottK | no/now. | 15:04 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell: I am working on the timezone map of the installer. Besides looking at the JauntyUbiquityUsabiliy page, are there other things I should think about? | 15:20 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: ask evand, he's the guy doing the gtk side | 15:24 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell: k, thanks | 15:25 |
| seele | Nightrose: i'm using neon but i dont know how to start amarok2, the menu item is linked to 1. any ideas? | 17:59 |
| Nightrose | seele: it should have its own menu entry | 18:00 |
| Nightrose | it should be called amarok nightly | 18:01 |
| seele | ah hah i see now | 18:01 |
| seele | duh | 18:01 |
| Riddell | http://www.osattack.com/windows-7/kubuntu-could-make-it-big-if-they-spin-it-right/ "KDE is simple and just needs that media attention to bring it into customers hands." goodness | 18:34 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: how come amarok doesn't use nepomuk for its rankings? | 18:35 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: iirc nepomuk wasn't ready yet to be used as a collection | 18:36 |
| * Riddell fixes plasma-widget-quickaccess override to main | 18:39 | |
| rgreening | Tonio_: ping | 18:50 |
| colomar | hi | 19:00 |
| Sime | Riddell: you got the python bindings in kde-edu compiled? | 19:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I got sbeatie assigned an action to try and verify the 4.1.4 printer fix at the release team meeting. | 19:10 |
| seele | colomar: rgreening has been working on kpackage kit. i believe he added an extra tab to search by applications instead of packages | 19:18 |
| seele | not sure what he's working on next though | 19:18 |
| seele | hopefully the search ui :) | 19:18 |
| rgreening | seele: that patch is still in dev | 19:19 |
| rgreening | I have the basics worked out. the part I am stuck on is how to use the app-install-data desktop files to generate the list instead of listing all packages. | 19:19 |
| rgreening | that's my current priority seele | 19:20 |
| colomar | rgreening: Thanks for working on that. Do you think it may be possible to get kpackagekit ready for users in time for jaunty? | 19:20 |
| ScottK | We kind of have to. | 19:20 |
| rgreening | If someone can assist me I can provide the current patch to look at | 19:21 |
| rgreening | what I need is help in the app-install-data bit | 19:21 |
| rgreening | Does gnome have this bit working in their packagekit yet? | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | I believe that Adept scans the app-install-data directory for the .desktop files, and sorts them by the categories inside them | 19:24 |
| ScottK | I haven't looked at the code, but based on having tried Adept, I'm sure however it's done there is the slowest way possible. | 19:25 |
| JontheEchidna | Yeah, the UI does hang for a bit in Adept | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | mm, but Adept uses xapian extensively to do its thing... | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, it uses it for updating the model while searching | 19:28 |
| Riddell | Sime: yes, they're in jaunty | 19:44 |
| Riddell | Sime: I can put an intrepid package in my PPA if that's useful | 19:44 |
| Sime | Riddell: cool, no ppa for intrepid? | 19:44 |
| Sime | oh, I mean, yes please. | 19:45 |
| a|wen | do we want a new upstream release of kde4-style-qtcurve packed for jaunty? | 19:49 |
| JontheEchidna | I think somebody has a package prepared, but we want the soure package to be changed to kde-style | 19:50 |
| a|wen | and the old kde-style-qtcurve shuffled out, i suppose... that makes sense | 19:51 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 323848 | 19:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 323848 in kde4-style-qtcurve "Please update kde4-style-qtcurve to the latest version 0.60.0" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323848 | 19:52 |
| JontheEchidna | Anyway, it definitely should be kde-style | 19:53 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: have you pinged the qtcurve updater back yet? | 19:53 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: i can | 19:53 |
| ScottK | There's a draft Debian document on naming we ought to follow. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | I don't remember exactly what it says on these. | 19:54 |
| Sime | Riddell: packages for intrepid will be useful when I blog sometime about marble/python. | 19:55 |
| Riddell | Sime: I uploaded to my ~jr PPA (which also needs people to use ~kubuntu-experimental), should appear in an hour or so all being well | 20:07 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: were you going to push the flash prompt patch to kdelibs or should I? | 20:27 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm thinking the full-blown wizard will have to wait for jaunty+1 | 20:28 |
| ScottK | Riddell: So looks like 4.1.4 is fully verified now. Now we just need someone to copy it over .... | 21:01 |
| Lure | ScottK: I think we both know one guy that could do that, right? ;-) | 21:05 |
| ScottK | Well he has the power. Dunno if he has the authority. | 21:06 |
| ScottK | It can wait until Monday for pitti to do it. | 21:06 |
| ghostcube | can packages only be pushed if ubuntu people confirm this ? | 21:07 |
| ghostcube | only for info :) | 21:07 |
| ScottK | For released versions like Intrepid there is a strict verification process. | 21:08 |
| ghostcube | ah ok :) | 21:08 |
| ScottK | The process and the people who do it are the same regardless of which *buntu we are discussing. | 21:08 |
| ghostcube | aha so only a QA team | 21:09 |
| ScottK | Basically. | 21:09 |
| ghostcube | ok :) thx | 21:09 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: if you have time, push it | 21:17 |
| Lure | Riddell: kees approved bug 325858 | 21:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 325858 in lensfun "Main inclusion request for lensfun" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325858 | 21:18 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: do you have the latest? | 21:18 |
| ScottK | Lure: So it just needs to be seeded? | 21:18 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: I think so, but it'd probably be best for you to send me the latest just in case | 21:19 |
| Lure | ScottK: yep - digikam rc2 (due on Sunday) will depend on it | 21:19 |
| Lure | ScottK: I will prepare the package on Sunday | 21:19 |
| ScottK | OK. Let me look.... | 21:19 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: you got the one I emailed with the .kdesu extransion correct? | 21:20 |
| * JontheEchidna checks for kdesu | 21:20 | |
| Lure | ScottK: if you want, you can add liblensfun-dev Build-Depends now and it will get built in | 21:20 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: my copy doesn't have kdesu | 21:20 |
| ScottK | Lure: Currently we have digikam seeded on the DVD, but not the CD. | 21:20 |
| rgreening | Ok, I have to send oyu the latest | 21:21 |
| ScottK | Lure: I'll add liblensfun-dev to supported then. | 21:21 |
| rgreening | actually, let me file a bug and submit the stuff to the bug | 21:21 |
| Lure | ScottK: yep, space issue (as it pulls in 25MB of marble) | 21:21 |
| ScottK | Ahhh, all that is depends or some is build-dep? | 21:21 |
| Lure | ScottK: will not just adding it to digikam's build-dep pull it in? | 21:22 |
| ScottK | Because if it's depends it'll have to fit on the dvd. | 21:22 |
| ScottK | Lure: It would. | 21:22 |
| ScottK | Actually we can just wait. | 21:22 |
| ScottK | Good point. | 21:22 |
| Lure | ScottK: yep, no urgency - I just wanted to get lensfun/opencv pass MIR before FF | 21:22 |
| === smarter_ is now known as smarter | ||
| Lure | ScottK: so if I add build-dep, will this auto-pull it in or does somebody (archive-admin?) need to still approve it? | 21:24 |
| * Lure does not recall anymore how seeds work... | 21:24 | |
| ScottK | It still needs to get moved. Riddell can do that. | 21:24 |
| Lure | ScottK: ok, I will need Riddell (or core-dev) for upload anyhow ;-) | 21:24 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: oh btw, the patch probably can't close that one bug | 21:25 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: this was bug 203967 | 21:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 203967 in kde4libs "[hardy] not prompted to install flash plugin" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203967 | 21:25 |
| JontheEchidna | because it mentioned youtube and cnn | 21:25 |
| rgreening | ah | 21:25 |
| * Lure goes back to hacking kipi-plugins i18n strings before tommorows rc2/i18n freeze ;-) | 21:25 | |
| rgreening | but is that a problem with cnn and youtube and how they detect or an issue with kdelibs? | 21:25 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: I can open a new bug | 21:26 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: you should probably just commit to bzr yourself :P | 21:26 |
| rgreening | do I haz rites d00d | 21:27 |
| JontheEchidna | as long as you are a member of kubuntu-members | 21:27 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: ok, I'll have a look at that too then | 21:27 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: but I should still open a bug rite | 21:28 |
| JontheEchidna | as long as you commit it to bzr you won't need to put up a debdiff in a bug | 21:28 |
| rgreening | ah | 21:28 |
| JontheEchidna | nah | 21:28 |
| JontheEchidna | a core-dev will check out bzr and upload it from there | 21:28 |
| rgreening | so, how do I get someone to pop out a new rev then | 21:28 |
| JontheEchidna | ping a core-dev such as Riddell or ScottK | 21:29 |
| rgreening | ok. I'll make sure the patch applies/builds here and commit and ping. | 21:29 |
| ScottK | We can haz dvcs because we're all modern and stuff. | 21:29 |
| rgreening | lol | 21:29 |
| JontheEchidna | it also lowers the permissions barrier somewhat for contributing to the core kde packages. A core-dev will still have to approve your changes and upload them, but bzr makes it a lot easier to work with the packages without having to throw around diffs at doods | 21:31 |
| JontheEchidna | imo | 21:31 |
| rgreening | tru dat, w3rd | 21:32 |
| ScottK | And now that bzr doesn't compete with the total time until the heat death of the Universe for slowness, it's not too bad. | 21:32 |
| ScottK | We tried similar in Gutsy and it was just undoable. | 21:33 |
| * ScottK notes it's less than two hours to 1234567890. See ##1234567890 for details. | 21:34 | |
| JontheEchidna | unix must be ebil since it has reached 1234567890 on Friday the 13th | 21:34 |
| JontheEchidna | MS should totally use that | 21:34 |
| rgreening | lol | 21:36 |
| JontheEchidna | linux is illegal and immoral! | 21:38 |
| JontheEchidna | linux has 5 letters, so does the devil | 21:38 |
| JontheEchidna | my son made a tetragram out of linux CD's!1!! | 21:39 |
| JontheEchidna | [/paranoid_mom] | 21:39 |
| ghostcube | hehe yeah the party is going on | 21:41 |
| ghostcube | lol 1234554321 time was lol | 21:41 |
| * NCommander is quite amazed that KDE on ARM has remained unbroken ;-) | 21:41 | |
| ghostcube | boah anyone knows if th eintel hdadriver will get better | 21:42 |
| NCommander | !ARM/x86 not quite so happy | 21:42 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 21:42 |
| ghostcube | i cant capture what i hear | 21:42 |
| NCommander | O_______o; | 21:42 |
| Riddell | Lure: I moved lensfun to main | 21:44 |
| Lure | Riddell: you just had to do it, right? | 21:45 |
| Lure | just to prevent me to do last upload in universe... ;-) | 21:45 |
| Lure | Riddell: just kidding, there are some patches pending for it, but have no time until we get digikam/kipi rc2 out | 21:46 |
| Lure | and I need to address opencv MIR feedback first | 21:46 |
| Riddell | ScottK: so, I guess I could move 4.1.4 to -updates | 21:50 |
| ScottK | I certainly think so. | 21:50 |
| Riddell | if I don't we'll have to wait for pitti on monday, and monday is ages away | 21:51 |
| Riddell | do we have a list of packages that need moved? | 21:51 |
| * JontheEchidna has 2 or so SRU-able fixes for kdesdk for after its moved | 21:51 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: Bugs tagged kde4.1.4 with an open intrepid task. | 21:51 |
| Riddell | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kde4.1.4 only three | 21:58 |
| Riddell | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+bugs?field.tag=kde4.1.4 ah better | 21:59 |
| Riddell | ScottK: so xine-lib and the langs too? | 21:59 |
| ScottK | err. | 22:00 |
| ScottK | They need to go. I don't know the state of their verification. | 22:00 |
| * ScottK looks | 22:00 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: That one actually has a call for lool to retest. | 22:01 |
| ScottK | urgh. | 22:01 |
| ScottK | lool: You around? Any chance you could repeate your xinelibs test? | 22:01 |
| ghostcube | 5010 people | 22:05 |
| ghostcube | :D | 22:05 |
| ghostcube | we nee dmore guys | 22:05 |
| ghostcube | -0 | 22:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I forgot about the xinelib thing, I think we need to reverify that first. Urgh. | 22:06 |
| ScottK | sorry for the false alarm. | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | night guys | 22:26 |
| * Lure -> bed, good nite all! | 22:37 | |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: ping | 22:41 |
| rgreening | Riddell: How do I use the bzr for ~kubuntu-members now. I keep getting an error | 22:47 |
| Riddell | rgreening: what's the error? | 22:47 |
| rgreening | Riddell: bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required) | 22:47 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ^ | 22:48 |
| Riddell | that it? | 22:48 |
| Riddell | probably launchpad is broken | 22:48 |
| rgreening | after I identify with lanchpad-login I get that and nothing checks out | 22:48 |
| rgreening | if I don't Identify I get a warning about identifying but I can branch | 22:48 |
| rgreening | so, dont I need to identify? | 22:48 |
| Riddell | branching may be using http | 22:49 |
| Riddell | where are you trying to push? | 22:50 |
| rgreening | havn't got that far yet | 22:50 |
| rgreening | do I need to install some https module? | 22:51 |
| Riddell | where are you trying to check out? | 22:52 |
| rgreening | bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu | 22:53 |
| Riddell | do you have your ssh key in your account? | 22:53 |
| rgreening | I assume that's the correct branch for me to update | 22:53 |
| rgreening | hmm... | 22:53 |
| rgreening | I had to build a new system. I may not have my local key anymore. | 22:54 |
| rgreening | crud | 22:54 |
| rgreening | Riddell: Is it as simple as generating a new set of keys for the new computer and attaching to LP? | 22:56 |
| Riddell | rgreening: yes | 22:57 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ty. now.. to get a new key cut | 22:57 |
| ScottK | And does your new machine have the same ssh key? | 23:00 |
| ScottK | nevermind | 23:00 |
| rgreening | anyone else have issues with "highlight"/"paste" from konsole to konqueror? seems like konqueror doesn't like the middle-click paste buffer | 23:04 |
| rgreening | Riddell: can you test ? | 23:04 |
| neversfelde | rgreening: can't open links in a new tab with middle-click here | 23:05 |
| rgreening | so, konqueror isn't recognizing middle mouse button events? | 23:06 |
| Riddell | rgreening: works for me | 23:06 |
| rgreening | Riddell: did you highlight but not copy? | 23:06 |
| rgreening | highlight it only and then use middle button to paste | 23:07 |
| Riddell | highlight in konsole, middle click pasts in konqueror's location bar | 23:07 |
| rgreening | Riddell: are you running latest updates? | 23:08 |
| rgreening | in Jaunty | 23:08 |
| Riddell | konqueror 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu2 | 23:08 |
| neversfelde | not working for me | 23:09 |
| rgreening | me to. but Im not running my PPA on this new system... are you still running my rebuilds from my PPA | 23:10 |
| JontheEchidna | wouldn't the rebuilds have a ~ppa number? | 23:10 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: Im more concerned the reason Riddell is working is qt 4.5 (potentially) | 23:11 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: you on jaunty? | 23:11 |
| rgreening | can you test? | 23:11 |
| JontheEchidna | sure | 23:12 |
| JontheEchidna | so, highlight in konsole, middle click in konq? | 23:12 |
| JontheEchidna | any particular area in konq? | 23:12 |
| rgreening | in the address bar or in the tab area seem broken | 23:12 |
| rgreening | address bar if not a real url you are pasting | 23:13 |
| rgreening | just so you have text goingto a text box | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | worksforme(tm) | 23:13 |
| rgreening | neversfelde: you 32 bit or 64? | 23:13 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Did you get a chance to try quassel on 4.5 yet? | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | pure jaunty kde and qt | 23:14 |
| rgreening | ScottK: nope. I got bogged down with my broken system | 23:14 |
| neversfelde | rgreening: 32 bit | 23:14 |
| ScottK | OK. | 23:14 |
| rgreening | well, JontheEchidna, neversfelde, Riddell: there's defiantely an issue. I did a stock install from latest alpha and upgraded before doing anything on it. | 23:15 |
| rgreening | I have additional languages and keyboard layouts enabled. how about the rest of you. | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | standard english, though out of coincidence I am running a spanish konq | 23:16 |
| JontheEchidna | but I do have the default keyboard layout | 23:16 |
| neversfelde | rgreening: default keyboard layout and german language | 23:16 |
| rgreening | hmmm... | 23:17 |
| rgreening | http://forum.kde.org/solved-middle-mouse-button-not-working-konqueror-t-30042.html | 23:18 |
| Riddell | ~twitter update 1234567231.48 nearly there | 23:20 |
| kubotu | status updated | 23:20 |
| neversfelde | :) left and middle button opens a link in current tab and in a new one | 23:21 |
| rgreening | neversfelde: not for me | 23:23 |
| rgreening | :( | 23:23 |
| neversfelde | rgreening: disabling gestures fixes it for me. I can paste and open links in new tabs with the middle button. | 23:28 |
| rgreening | neversfelde: where did you disable thatÉ | 23:28 |
| neversfelde | mom, must switch to english | 23:29 |
| neversfelde | rgreening: Systemsettings >> General >> Input Settings | 23:30 |
| rgreening | Riddell: do you have gestures enabled? | 23:31 |
| rgreening | Riddell: and is this something we want enabled? | 23:31 |
| Riddell | not that I know of | 23:32 |
| ScottK | I'd imagine not. | 23:32 |
| shtylman_ | 1234567890 | 23:32 |
| shtylman_ | :) | 23:32 |
| ScottK | That seems like something you'd want people to opt in to. | 23:32 |
| rgreening | I've never had or used gestures and middle click seems like so much more important | 23:33 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: yay! | 23:33 |
| ghostcube | happy 1234567890 | 23:34 |
| ghostcube | hehe | 23:34 |
| ghostcube | the ## channel was too freaky | 23:34 |
| ScottK | Doesn't seem much different than #ubuntu-release party on release day (except for the bad language) | 23:35 |
| ScottK | OK, it's a little more over the top. | 23:35 |
| rgreening | I feel like an episode of sesame street... 1-2-3-4..5..6-7-8-9..10..11.12! | 23:36 |
| rgreening | I old | 23:36 |
| ScottK | Bah. | 23:37 |
| ghostcube | :D | 23:37 |
| ScottK | I remember before there WAS Sesame Street. | 23:37 |
| ghostcube | hmm iam old too guys :P | 23:37 |
| ScottK | How old are you? | 23:37 |
| ghostcube | 30 | 23:38 |
| ghostcube | lol | 23:38 |
| ScottK | Youngster. | 23:38 |
| ghostcube | hehe | 23:38 |
| ghostcube | its not how old you are its about how old you feel | 23:39 |
| ghostcube | :D | 23:39 |
| rgreening | ghostcube < rgreening < ScottK where name = age | 23:40 |
| rgreening | :) | 23:40 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 23:40 |
| ghostcube | lol | 23:40 |
| ScottK | JFTR, I am not the oldest Ubuntu dev. I know of one a decade older than me. | 23:41 |
| ghostcube | oh no u all seen google icon today ? | 23:41 |
| ghostcube | http://www.google.de/logos/unix1234567890.gif | 23:41 |
| rgreening | Riddell: when I am ready to push my changes to bzr, do I do bzr push or bzr merge? | 23:44 |
| rgreening | or... | 23:44 |
| Riddell | rgreening: if you did a checkout then bzr commit | 23:44 |
| Riddell | if you did a branch then bzr commit; bzr push | 23:45 |
| Riddell | if you did a branch bzr merge will bring in changes from the branch | 23:45 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ah. yeah, I had forgotten. I did a branch rather than checkout | 23:45 |
| rgreening | oops | 23:45 |
| ScottK | http://currentconfig.com/2005/02/22/essential-life-lesson-1-over-is-right-under-is-wrong/ | 23:46 |
| rgreening | Riddell: updated kde4libs with flash installer patch | 23:47 |
| rgreening | we'll need a new deb popped from tree :) | 23:47 |
| neversfelde | are there infos about that bzr thing somewhere? | 23:48 |
| neversfelde | the choqok branch should be updated, but I do not know how | 23:48 |
| ghostcube | ScottK, nice story | 23:52 |
| ghostcube | :d | 23:52 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: bzr co https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/choqok/ubuntu | 23:53 |
| Riddell | edit files | 23:53 |
| Riddell | bzr diff | 23:53 |
| Riddell | bzr commit | 23:53 |
| Riddell | hmm, that's not the right URL | 23:53 |
| Riddell | bzr co lp:~kubuntu-members/choqok/ubuntu | 23:53 |
| neversfelde | thanks, will have a look at it | 23:53 |
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