[03:58] <bullgard4> [Symmetrical Multiprocessing, SMP]: Is there a tool that shows if an application program uses both processors on a particular two-processor SMP machine?
[04:07] <lifeless> bullgard4: do you mean 'does it have threads' ?
[04:10] <bullgard4> lifeless: No. I imagine that an application may either be processed by only one processor or by both.
[04:11] <stgraber> no, if your application has a single process it can't be using two CPUs
[04:11] <lifeless> stgraber: it can get scheduled to both, just not concurrently :P
[04:12] <stgraber> lifeless: right :)
[04:12] <lifeless> bullgard4: your question is essentially ill-defined in kernel terms, heck, even application isn't that well defined (I know single apps that have 10's of different images with 100's of processes active concurrently)
[04:13] <lifeless> bullgard4: I'm sure you are asking this as part of answering some larger issue/project - perhaps some context about that will help us answer you 
[04:17] <bullgard4> May be referring to a more specific case will help me better to understand. Does pbzip2 load the two processor kernels while gzip, bzip2 do load only one?
[04:19] <lifeless> bullgard4: pbzip2 is probably threaded, so the kernel can schedule it onto multiple CPU's at once
[04:20] <lifeless> gzip and bzip2 are single threaded and can only be scheduled on a single cpu at a time
[04:23] <bullgard4> lifeless, stgraber: Thank you very much for your help. 
[10:00] <Kano> hi, why does 2.6.28-8 depend on wireless-crda which is only in universe?
[10:05] <Kano> remove that depend please...
[10:05] <ivoks> is there a change hardy's latest kernel was compiled with an older version of gcc that we have in repository?
[10:05] <ivoks> which would make building kernel modules impossible?
[10:18] <persia> ivoks, Older version, no.  Older revision, yes.  It was built with the gcc that was available at the time it was built.
[10:19] <ivoks> persia: i'm aware of that...
[10:19] <ivoks> but, we can't build kernel modules if kernel doesn't get rebuild
[10:20] <ivoks> gcc in hardy is 4.2.4
[10:20] <ivoks> it was updates couple of months ago
[10:20] <ivoks> yet, the kernel is compiled with 4.2.3
[10:20] <persia> Hrm?
[10:20]  * persia looks
[10:20] <Kano> depends, you can even build the kernel with gcc 4.1.1 and then compile modules with 4.3
[10:20] <Kano> just not the other way around
[10:20] <persia> ivoks, Which arch?
[10:20] <ivoks> persia: i386
[10:21] <Kano> but then the linux-headers are not installable
[10:26] <persia> ivoks, For some reason I can't find the build log for 23.48, apparently in part because it's a security update.  Sorry not to be able to help.
[10:26] <ivoks> persia: right, that was security update
[10:29] <ivoks> persia: bug 292381
[10:29] <ubot3> Malone bug 292381 in linux "[hardy] kernel 2.6.24-21-generic and gcc version mismatch" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292381
[10:29] <persia> ivoks, It may well have been built against 4.2.3 then, as I believe -security only has 4.2.3 and -updates has 4.2.4.  
[10:29] <persia> ivoks, Trick being that for people only tracking -security, I think 4.2.3 is correct.
[10:29] <ivoks> i understand that
[10:29] <ivoks> that's a gcc bug
[10:30] <ivoks> gcc should never get version change during release
[10:30] <persia> Or at least never get any sort of ABI change.
[10:30] <persia> The version string isn't the important part.
[10:36] <ivoks> well
[10:36] <ivoks> i just did more digging
[10:37] <ivoks> kernel's 64bit buildd doesn't have gcc 4.2.4
[10:37] <ivoks> while 32bit buildd does
[10:47] <persia> ivoks, Found it: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21747228/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.linux_2.6.24-23.48_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz shows gcc-4.2_4.2.3-2ubuntu7 : it's entirely due to skew between -updates and -security.
[10:48] <persia> Either needs two different kernels (one for -updates and one for -security) or to not have impactful variation.
[10:48] <ivoks> correct
[12:36] <lukehasnoname> I would be interested in someone could solve this problem:
[12:36] <lukehasnoname> http://www.nabble.com/Yaird-throws-error-about-bad-sr0-device-link-td21449825.html
[12:37] <lukehasnoname> I know it's not Ubuntu-kernel related, but perhaps it's a slow morning for someone who wants to help me out
[12:41] <soren> Why use yaird? What does it do that mkinitramfs doesn't?
[13:00] <lukehasnoname> >_> I'm using a video tutorial which stated using that tool. I'm not familiar with kernel building.
[13:00] <lukehasnoname> I googled the error I was getting and found that ml archive
[13:05] <alex_joni> lukehasnoname: googling I found some people having to update to a newer yaird version (with erros similar to yours), but I would do as soren suggest.. use mkinitramfs
[13:19] <lukehasnoname> I'll try it later. I've been awake 24 hours in studying for tests and finishing up a project proposal
[13:19] <lukehasnoname> thanks 
[13:54] <ivoks> hi... are there any plans to support more than 8 cpus in hardy?
[13:55] <rtg> ivoks: debian/config/amd64/config.server:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64
[13:55] <ivoks> ah, right
[13:56] <ivoks> so, only i386 supports 8
[13:56] <rtg> correct
[13:56] <ivoks> thanks
[13:56] <persia> rtg, WIth the lpia kernel merge, does linux-lpia now have the same modules and udebs as i386/amd64 or are there significant differences?
[13:57] <rtg> persia: udebs should be pretty close, but I'm not sure about all of the modules. The configs came over intact, so that likely hasn't changed.
[13:58] <persia> Thanks.  I'm thinking some bugs I was thinking of filing may have become obsolete, but I'll retest, and maybe file.
[13:59] <rtg> persia: who is the archive admin today? I need to get wireless-crda promoted to main
[14:00] <persia> rtg, You already have an approved MIR?
[14:00] <rtg> yep, hang on.
[14:00] <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Archive%20days says nobody is the offical archive-admin on Fridays.
[14:01] <rtg> persia: which is why I asked
[14:01] <rtg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/325801
[14:01] <ubot3> Malone bug 325801 in ubuntu "Main inclusion request: wireless-crda" [Undecided,In progress] 
[14:01] <persia> So just beg in #u-d and any of the team might be able to help (including the few who don't have days).
[14:03] <persia> Theoretically anyone in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+members ought to be able to do it.
[14:03] <rtg> persia: thanks, I'll see whom I can annoy.
[14:04] <rtg> actually, I thought you were on that list.
[14:05] <persia> No.  I signed up for enough of those "it sounded like a good idea at the time, but it's a bunch of work" things already :)
[14:05] <rtg> I hear yuo :)
[15:25] <Kano> rtg: you forgot my patch, you only need to apply it then you get a quickcam.ko as you still have it enabled in the config
[15:26] <rtg> I did not forget, I just didn't do it yet.
[15:26] <Kano> also i had to revert one config
[15:27] <Kano> as you depend on something now which is only in jaunty universe
[15:28] <Kano> wireless-crda is not even in main...
[15:28] <Kano> of course i used =y
[15:29] <Kano> and removed that depend
[23:24] <BUGabundo> hi
[23:24] <BUGabundo> is any kernel dev awake around here?
[23:25] <BUGabundo> if it wasn't to much trouble
[23:25] <BUGabundo> could some one take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/329254
[23:25] <ubot3> Malone bug 329254 in linux "kernel: [  341.030356] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: P        W  2.6.28-7-generic #20-Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]