[11:19] <asac> fta: do you have the mozillateam photo (without [reed]) from SF?
[11:19] <asac> would be cool if you could look that up at some point ;)
[11:36] <armin76> poor [reed]
[11:53] <gnomefreak> since whne is get-orig needed for extensions? and if it is we need to change XPI_TEMPLATE alwith adding a debian/README
[12:15] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 305738 i attached some files for copyright info. also added some concerns i had about why it was rejected please let me know either on bug or email since im not sure how long i am going to be here.
[12:53] <gnomefreak> asac: can you look at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs  it looks like its from debian but im not sure i dont even see what the message is.
[13:20] <asac> gnomefreak: please moderate the debian things
[13:20] <asac> gnomefreak: we have to fix that somehow
[13:20] <asac> i am not sure how
[13:20] <gnomefreak> the debian thing?
[13:20] <asac> i will try to figure out
[13:21] <asac> gnomefreak: if its debian icedove bugmail yes
[13:21] <asac> if its something else, then probably no
[13:21] <gnomefreak> ah that
[13:22] <gnomefreak> asac: hard to say but looks like debian not so much icedoce, since there is not message text that threw me off.
[13:23] <asac> let me check
[13:24] <gnomefreak> going for a smoke while tb sends my pile of emails :)
[13:25] <asac> gnomefreak: i forgot the pass again
[13:25] <asac> not sure why its not remembered here in ffox
[13:25] <asac> let me check my laptop
[13:29] <asac> bug 327427
[13:31] <gnomefreak> maybe it was due to the failure to send to mozilla seamonkey ML
[13:32] <gnomefreak> [reed]: if you are around is there a way to find out what email i am subscribed as, im assuming mozilla-extensions-dev@gmial email but if so i shouldnt have gotten a failure to send.
[13:34] <gnomefreak> maybe its the users email only that failed but i still dont see the post since i sent to ML as well as user
[13:38] <gnomefreak> hmmmm it seems reply all only replys to user lets see if i can fix this :)
[13:42] <gnomefreak> ok sent to list lets see what happens
[13:44] <gnomefreak> why do i get this feeling that firefox uses an app helper for downloads?
[14:07] <fta> asac, which one?
[14:07] <fta> asac, the last day?
[14:13] <asac> fta: i think so, yes.
[14:14] <fta> i remember i had issues with my flash
[14:14] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/IMG_1262.JPG
[14:15] <fta> asac, this one is nice http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/IMG_1259.JPG
[14:19] <asac> fta: is there only one for us three?
[14:19] <asac> thought we did a few shots
[14:19] <fta> no, two
[14:20] <BUGabundo> guud afternuun
[14:20] <asac> fta: opening the second picture you posted locked up my sys
[14:21] <fta> it's just bigger, nothing unusual
[14:21] <asac> hmm ... minefield ;)
[14:21] <asac> but most likely X and UXA ;)
[14:21] <asac> a steaming setup ;)
[14:24] <fta> 2848x4272
[14:25] <asac> hmm ... can you open in ffox?
[14:25] <fta> yes
[14:25] <asac> i wont try again until i know how to capture info i need for a bug
[14:25] <BUGabundo> asac: link please
[14:25]  * BUGabundo is not afraid of crashs
[14:26] <asac> thats ok ;)
[14:26] <asac> but its not really a serious issue ;)
[14:26] <fta> do you have enough memory?
[14:26] <asac> its just a huge picture
[14:26] <asac> 2 gig
[14:26] <asac> not sure if thats enough
[14:26] <asac> on this laptop
[14:26] <fta> i mean, in your video card
[14:27] <asac> i dont think it has any mem
[14:27] <BUGabundo> 256MiBs on card + sysmem
[14:27] <asac> it shared memory
[14:27] <fta> can you wget it and open it in eog or gimp?
[14:27] <asac> fta: sure
[14:27] <asac> i will try to repro when i have set X to debug mode or whatever bryce wnats me to do
[14:28] <fta> ok
[14:28] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/IMG_1263.JPG (it's a big one too)
[14:28] <fta> i prefer the 1st one
[14:28] <asac> fta: let me check ;)
[14:28]  * BUGabundo tests minefield
[14:29] <BUGabundo> 12371    689      1         84K 466.9M 105.3M  5120K  1100K   3% firefox-3.2
[14:29] <asac> fta: heh. where did i look ;)
[14:29] <BUGabundo> no crash here
[14:29] <fta> indeed
[14:29] <asac> was there girl or something ;)
[14:29] <asac> or ogra ;)
[14:29] <BUGabundo> 12371      0      0         84K 455.9M 68584K     0K     0K   2% firefox-3.2
[14:30] <fta> fta       5718 21.0 22.2 708080 459304 ?       Sl   Feb12 236:58 /usr/lib/firefox-3.2a1pre/firefox-3.2
[14:30] <fta> 136 tabs
[14:31] <BUGabundo> RFOL
[14:31] <fta> what?
[14:36] <BUGabundo> single window on 3.2
[14:36] <BUGabundo> im using 3.1 mainly until a few addons I use come out for 3.2
[14:37] <fta> BUGabundo, use the nightly tester tools addon and try to force the one you really need
[14:37] <asac> if you do that please dont complain about crashes
[14:37] <asac> without disabling them first ;)
[14:37] <asac> (just a side note)
[14:38] <fta> yes, that's also why i said to try 1 by 1, not all at once
[14:38] <BUGabundo> fta: I use it
[14:38] <BUGabundo> that doesn't fix probs
[14:38] <BUGabundo> it just forces them to work... not to work OK
[14:38] <fta> ok, so you're doomed ;)
[14:39] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[14:39] <BUGabundo> first it was Bette GReader
[14:39] <fta> all the ones i need are fine
[14:39] <BUGabundo> now its fixed
[14:39] <BUGabundo> now NoSquint isn't saving the zoom values
[14:40] <BUGabundo> something might have changed on FF with the way stuff is saved
[14:40] <BUGabundo> so everytime I change a tab, the previous tab resets its zoom
[15:02] <gnomefreak> bug 328491
[15:02] <BUGabundo> LOL
[15:02] <BUGabundo> invalid!
[15:03] <BUGabundo> I guess it's the usual cert Social Bug!
[15:03] <BUGabundo> ppl don't know how to add exceptions !
[15:04]  * BUGabundo checks the bug
[15:04] <BUGabundo> scratch that
[15:05] <BUGabundo> the cert is valid... no need for exception
[15:06] <BUGabundo> "it doesn't work with any browser (firefox, epiphany, konqueror, opera). I've tested it in Jaunty as well, and it doesn't work"
[15:06] <BUGabundo> this is not Firefox related
[15:06] <BUGabundo> or at least no isolated
[15:12] <BUGabundo> asac: ping
[15:12] <BUGabundo> how is the work with ubufox and tabmix plus going?
[15:12] <BUGabundo> does it work already to have both ?
[15:21] <asac> BUGabundo: try the latest ubufox from trunk plesae
[15:21] <asac> i think i fixed that
[15:21] <asac> and forgot to push that as a relesae
[15:21] <BUGabundo> doh
[15:21] <asac> just branch lp:ubufox and run sh build.sh to get an .xpi
[15:21] <BUGabundo> link please
[15:22] <BUGabundo> thank
[15:22]  * BUGabundo ears fta complaining about installing stuff from shell ehehe
[15:22] <asac> you build it on command line and install it throuh firefox ;)
[15:22] <BUGabundo> Error reading response length from authentication socket.
[15:22] <BUGabundo> not good
[15:23] <asac> let me check
[15:23] <asac> bzr branch lp:ubufox   doesnt work?
[15:23] <BUGabundo> its still working
[15:23] <BUGabundo> but getting an ERROR to cli
[15:23] <BUGabundo> is not nice
[15:23] <asac> OK
[15:24] <BUGabundo> [##############\     ] Copying content texts:Copied record 565/566
[15:24] <asac> its probably ignorable and only means: "you dont have write access"
[15:25] <BUGabundo> ubufox.xpi done
[15:25] <BUGabundo> installing now
[15:25] <BUGabundo> to current and new profile
[15:26] <BUGabundo> never got that before
[15:27] <BUGabundo> Tab Mix Plus Dev-Build 0.3.7.4pre.090107 installed
[15:28] <BUGabundo> asac: LOLOLOL ubufox trunk not compatible with minefield
[15:29] <BUGabundo> changed toolbar
[15:29] <asac> BUGabundo: try 3.0 please
[15:29] <BUGabundo> restarting FF3.2
[15:29] <asac> ffox
[15:29] <BUGabundo> bugabundo@blubug:/tmp/ubufox$ firefox-3.2
[15:29] <BUGabundo> Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox-3.2' received an X Window System error.
[15:29] <BUGabundo> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[15:29] <BUGabundo> The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
[15:29] <BUGabundo>   (Details: serial 1219 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0)
[15:29] <BUGabundo>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[15:29] <BUGabundo>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[15:29] <BUGabundo>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[15:29] <BUGabundo>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[15:29] <asac> yeah
[15:29] <BUGabundo>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[15:29] <BUGabundo> aborting...
[15:29] <BUGabundo> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[15:30] <BUGabundo> not nice!
[15:30] <asac> thats jemalloc fallout from what i understand
[15:30] <BUGabundo> now I can't start 3.2
[15:30] <BUGabundo> LOL
[15:30] <BUGabundo> and you want me to test a stable version?
[15:30] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:30] <asac> i will work after a while again
[15:30] <BUGabundo> let me disable it on my 3.1
[15:30] <asac> e.g. when X about the freed window
[15:30] <asac> that ffox left behind when crashing on exit
[15:30] <BUGabundo> before it mess that too
[15:30] <asac> this x eerror hsa nothing to do with extensions from what i know
[15:31] <asac> its caused because ffox 3.1 and above crash onevery exit
[15:31] <BUGabundo> testinc clean profile of 3.2
[15:31] <BUGabundo> *3.0
[15:31] <asac> as i said ... just wait 30 seconds or so
[15:31] <asac> then it starts again
[15:31] <asac> (dont open anything in between)
[15:32] <asac> fta: btw, i think the crash on exit is in the end a bug deep down in the dynamic linker
[15:32] <fta> hm
[15:32] <asac> it seems to not use the overloadde memalign at some places where i think it should
[15:32] <asac> i saw that in linker code, but i have to get input from doko to see if i am not messing aronud
[15:33] <asac> e.g. the memalign we see in the crash is in libc but should be in jemalloc ... but if you look at the liner code it explicitly calls the glibc symbol for whatever reason
[15:33] <fta> would be nice to get that fixed asap
[15:33] <asac> i thiunk its ab ug
[15:33] <BUGabundo> 3.0 instaled
[15:33] <BUGabundo> restarting
[15:33] <asac> yes. it would also show if the X11 error from above is really a fallout from those crashes
[15:34] <BUGabundo> asac: I'm opening from cli
[15:34] <BUGabundo> if I see it free I expect to be able to launch again
[15:34] <asac> fta: would be nice ... its really in the guts of libc ... if i just upload it might be that on next start no box will run anymore ;)
[15:34] <asac> so i am a bit scared
[15:34] <asac> i have to test in chroot i guess
[15:34] <fta> put it in a private ppa
[15:34] <BUGabundo> $ firefox-3.0 -ProfileManager
[15:34] <BUGabundo> nsHeaderInfo: registerSelf called!
[15:34] <BUGabundo> nsHeaderInfo: registerSelf called!
[15:34] <BUGabundo> sh: acroread: not found
[15:34] <BUGabundo> nsHeaderInfo: registerSelf called!
[15:34] <BUGabundo> nsHeaderInfo: registerSelf called!
[15:34] <BUGabundo> nsHeaderInfo: registerSelf called!
[15:34] <BUGabundo> nsHeaderInfo: registerSelf called!
[15:34] <BUGabundo> sh: acroread: not found
[15:35] <BUGabundo> asac: toolbar is okay
[15:35] <fta> asac, and prepare a rescue CD
[15:35] <asac> fta: to be exact the shared library unloading code does that. so its normal that we dont see it in firefox only builds
[15:35] <asac> just in xul stub things that try to cleanly shutdown the dlopened libs on shutdown
[15:35] <asac> BUGabundo: ok good. so bug is fixed in lp:ubufox for you?
[15:36] <BUGabundo> seems so
[15:36] <BUGabundo> on a clean profile
[15:36] <BUGabundo> will have to restart (and backup 1st) my 3.1
[15:36] <asac> BUGabundo: could you also check ffox 3?
[15:36] <BUGabundo> that is all fool of crap and my tabmix conf
[15:36] <asac> thanks
[15:37] <BUGabundo> sure
[15:37] <BUGabundo> I'll copy an existing profile
[15:37] <asac> you can use a fresh profile too ;)
[15:37] <BUGabundo> but from a clean profiles 3.0 seem to work
[15:37] <BUGabundo> just tested it
[15:38] <asac> cool
[15:38] <asac> after FF i should roll out SRU to intrepid i guess
[15:39] <BUGabundo> asac: nag me latter
[15:39] <BUGabundo> have work to do now
[15:40] <BUGabundo> 5 pages price updates
[15:46] <fta> asac, http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/report.php?login=fta%40ubuntu.com  ?? why am i in there?
[15:47] <asac> fta: we added you to uploaders for icedove at some point
[15:47] <asac> want to be removed?
[15:47] <fta> oh
[15:47] <fta> i don't mind
[15:47] <asac> (with being uploaders you just need to get your key signed and can upload that package directly)
[15:49] <[reed]> armin76: indeed
[15:49] <[reed]> asac: :(
[15:49] <asac> [reed]: what did i say ;)
[15:49] <asac> ?
[15:50] <armin76> haha
[15:50] <[reed]> [05:19:23AM] <asac> fta: do you have the mozillateam photo (without [reed]) from SF?
[15:50] <asac> [reed]: yes. that was _really_ unfortunate
[15:50] <asac> and information flow could have been better
[15:50] <asac> like michael thought to know that you are unavailable
[15:50] <asac> while you wasn't
[15:50] <asac> [reed]: we can cut your pic in there ;)
[15:51] <armin76> asac: but he's from the team! :P
[15:51] <[reed]> yeah, I was totally in the room
[15:51] <asac> armin76: thats why i want to add him post-mortem
[15:51] <[reed]> all Ventron's fault!
[15:51] <asac> as usual
[15:52] <asac> ;)
[16:16] <fta> hm, the bot is broken
[16:17] <fta> did someone update dput?
[16:23] <asac> you never know ;)
[16:23] <asac> maybe someone wanted a dput feature in before FF :-P
[16:24] <fta> http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/simplifying-dputcf-for-multiple-ppas
[16:25] <asac> fta: maybe ... did you prefix your stuff with /ppa yet?
[16:25] <fta> no
[16:25] <asac> maybe they just enforce that now?
[16:25] <asac> i had to do that for new archives at least
[16:26] <asac> like -security ... i couldnt upload without /ppa
[16:26] <asac> now i added that everywhere
[16:28] <fta> i mean, i don't use "dput ppa:foo/ppa" yet
[16:28] <asac> ah
[16:28] <asac> no i ment if you use the /ppa folder for your incoming lines
[16:29] <fta> no, nowhere
[16:59] <BUGabundo> back
[16:59] <BUGabundo> did I miss something?
[17:00] <asac> probably 10000 birth's that took place all over the world in the last 10 minutes
[17:00] <asac> or the slaughter of 10k cattle ;)
[17:01] <BUGabundo> LOL
[17:44] <[reed]> asac: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/browser-benchmarks-2-even-wine-beats-linux-firefox
[17:48] <asac> [reed]: yes. i think its understood that cairo + X11 + sqlite on ext3 are the worst performance killers on linux
[17:49] <asac> [reed]: that said, the performance can be considerably different depending on the driver / chipset you use
[17:49] <asac> [reed]: would be interesting to see a fedora ubuntu comparison
[17:49] <asac> though since its about the same as upstream builds we probably wont really win ;)
[17:51] <asac> but good that opera is worse ;)
[17:52] <asac> but thanks for the article
[18:01] <fta> [reed], does ff 3.0 use pgo on windows?
[18:02] <fta> asac, what did you need the photos for?
[18:03] <asac> fta: sending them to slashdot
[18:03] <fta> lol, kidding right?
[18:03] <asac> fta: private interest and wondering whether we want t publish one of them with reed ;)
[18:03] <asac> cut in
[18:04] <fta> dtchen, plain jaunty, no ppa: Feb 13 18:17:01 cube pulseaudio[6900]: module-console-kit.c: GetUnixUser() call failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetUnixUser" with signature "" on interface "org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session" doesn't exist
[18:14] <fta> Title: gwibber crashed with SIGSEGV in pango_layout_check_lines()
[19:01] <[reed]> asac: yes
[19:01] <[reed]> er
[19:01] <[reed]> fta: yes
[19:02] <fta> so that could be the reason
[19:03] <asac> pulseaudio tries the hat trick throwing various new things together, stirring and then hoping for the best ;)
[19:04] <[reed]> [11:48:25AM] <sdwilsh> reed: also, results make sense to me since we PGO windows
[19:04] <[reed]> yeah
[19:13] <asac> [reed]: oh true
[19:13] <asac> PGO
[19:14] <asac> [reed]: do you know if linux is just not done or if there are blockers on a technical side for PGO?
[19:14] <[reed]> let me find the bug
[19:15]  * asac out ... hunting food in snow
[20:36] <BUGabundo_> asac: ping
[20:36] <BUGabundo_> are you here?
[20:36] <BUGabundo_> i'm having trouble with a 3G usb modem
[20:36] <BUGabundo_> huawei E220
[20:36] <asac> symptoms?
[20:36] <BUGabundo_> both on xubuntu 8.10
[20:37] <BUGabundo_> and my laptop (ubutnu 9.04 NM PPA)
[20:37] <BUGabundo_> timeout
[20:37] <BUGabundo_> i have the logs, i can upload them to you once I have net on it
[20:37] <BUGabundo_> modem was detected, PPA version asked for pin, 8.10 didnt
[20:37] <BUGabundo_> but both failed to establish connection
[20:38] <BUGabundo_> on win 32 SP2 works out of the box
[20:38] <BUGabundo_> i'm using it right now
[20:38] <BUGabundo_> what do u need for extra debug?
[20:39] <asac> BUGabundo_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager#Serial%20Log%20%28Mobile%20Broadband%29
[20:40] <BUGabundo_> thanks
[20:40] <BUGabundo_> will plug it there after dinner and try again
[20:40] <asac> k
[20:40] <BUGabundo_> anything else?
[20:41] <asac> BUGabundo_: enable debug option in /etc/ppp/options
[20:41] <asac> BUGabundo_: also tail the syslog too
[20:41] <BUGabundo_> ok
[20:41] <asac> capturing connect attempt/failure
[20:41] <BUGabundo_> will try to do it all
[20:41] <asac> BUGabundo_: are you using ppp from ppa?
[20:41] <BUGabundo_> how many retries?
[20:41] <asac> or from jaunty
[20:42] <BUGabundo_> not sure! what ever has the higer version
[20:42] <BUGabundo_> gotta go... dinner is served
[20:42] <asac> BUGabundo_: check please
[20:42] <BUGabundo_> brb
[20:42] <asac> ppp version ;)
[20:42] <BUGabundo_> will do.. i always apt-cache policy stuff
[20:42] <asac> BUGabundo_: yeah let me know when finished dinner
[20:42] <fta> i should debug mine too
[20:42] <BUGabundo_> just one more thing
[20:42] <BUGabundo_> every time i connct the donle
[20:43] <BUGabundo_> i get one more connection on NM
[20:43] <BUGabundo_> already have 4
[20:43] <BUGabundo_> screnshot too
[20:43] <BUGabundo_> bye
[20:43] <asac> BUGabundo_: no screenshot ... check the output of lshal ... maybe the modems duplicate there
[20:44] <asac> for devices != mobile broadband the issue should be mostly fixed by dbus
[20:44] <fta> grrr, my bot turned crazy...
[20:44] <fta> 0.9.1+svn20090205r22048-0ubuntu1~umd1~umd1~umd1
[20:44] <asac> Nafallo: you still get the "enable networking" disabled on resume?
[20:44] <asac> Nafallo: i have attached a pm-utils script that might fix that to the bug
[20:44] <Nafallo> asac: doesn't look like it
[20:44] <asac> Nafallo: hmm. ok then you are probably lucky
[20:44] <Nafallo> asac: or wait. what computer was that? :-D
[20:45] <asac> Nafallo: probably the one you resume and suspend ... aka laptop ;)
[20:45] <Nafallo> asac: which of them? :-)
[20:45] <asac> fta: do you commit the ~umd version and then append another layer next time?
[20:45] <Nafallo> asac: intrepid?
[20:45] <asac> Nafallo: intrepid and jaunty ... though jaunty seems to be less frequently
[20:46] <fta> asac, it's a tricky bug, i'm trying to track it down, tough as it's a corner case
[20:47] <fta> 0.9.1+svn20090205r22048-0ubuntu1~umd1~umd2  hmmm, better, but still not what i want
[20:47] <asac> fta: well ... isnt it just that you dont get asked for bin?
[20:47] <asac> pin
[20:47] <asac> heh
[20:47] <Nafallo> asac: hmm. haven't seen it for a good while on jaunty :-)
[20:47] <Nafallo> Your current bandwidth reading is:
[20:47] <asac> i dont have a problem with long verions ;)
[20:47] <Nafallo> 6000.00 Mbps
[20:47] <Nafallo> which means you can download at 750 MB/sec. from our servers.
[20:47] <Nafallo> ^-- I'm on 3.5G ;-)
[20:47] <fta> :)
[20:47] <asac> thats ok
[20:48] <asac> almost as good as my 3g experience ;)
[20:48] <fta> Nafallo, i want one :)
[20:48] <asac> (while dreaming ;))
[20:48] <Nafallo> haha
[20:48] <asac> he is probably sitting in the datacenter next to a mega fan to get that ;)
[20:48] <asac> shiver
[20:49] <asac> Nafallo: start bittorrent ;)
[20:49] <asac> give something ... not sure what, but something surely needed to get spreaded
[20:51] <Nafallo> asac: ha. no. I'm sitting at that same old cafe using 3.5G through my Nokia N95-2 :-)
[20:51] <asac> btw, i really think i am a bad net-citizen. ist just remembered that the last time i got annoyed by all my mailing lists i didnt unsubscribe (too lazy), but just /dev/null'ed them in procmail
[20:51] <asac> hmmm ... a bit scared to turn that off now
[20:51] <asac> to see what i am getting
[20:52] <asac> Nafallo: damn. and the girls are still with you?
[20:52] <asac> ;)
[20:52] <Nafallo> asac: and I get ~330kbps down and up with a better test :-)
[20:52] <asac> plugging into your bandwidth distributor ;)
[20:52] <Nafallo> the prettier one have come and left already :-PO
[20:52] <asac> bandwidth distribution device ;)
[20:53] <asac> you could move around offering wired cables like the sausage vendors that run in the cold with a gas tank on their back ;)
[20:53] <Nafallo> :-P
[20:53] <asac> with huge antenna on your back ;)
[20:53] <asac> thats a good model ;)
[20:53] <asac> let humans serve as moving access points
[20:54] <asac> like in SF where humans hold driving direction advertisments next to a traffic light ;)
[20:54] <asac> good business model i ment ;)
[20:57] <Nafallo> OMG. asac is on crack
[20:59] <asac> Nafallo: not more than those that employ living advertisment plates in US ;)
[21:00] <Nafallo> asac: advertising crack?
[21:00] <asac> Nafallo: hah :) ... not the advertise like "gran mas restaurant -  turn left"
[21:01] <Nafallo> hmm
[21:01]  * Nafallo ponders heading home.
[21:01] <asac> Nafallo: probably better
[21:01] <asac> ;)
[21:01] <asac> 9pm
[21:01] <Nafallo> yea. the cafe just closed
[21:01] <Nafallo> no more coffee :-(
[21:01] <asac> go to a pub that closes at 10 ;)
[21:02] <Nafallo> tss. they don't have wifi.
[21:02] <Nafallo> whem
[21:02] <asac> you can probably put 3g on expenses ;)
[21:02] <Nafallo> considering I'm sitting on 3.5G because those people's wifi never works etc... ;-)
[21:02] <Nafallo> asac: I have unlimited web'n'walk this month. paid £7.50 for that :-)
[21:03] <asac> for a whole month?
[21:03] <asac> was that a promotion?
[21:03] <Nafallo> asac: yea. :-)
[21:03] <Nafallo> asac: ehrm. not a promotion.
[21:03] <Nafallo> asac: just a good deal ;-)
[21:04]  * Nafallo streams music via 3G instead of using what he have on the device this month ;-)
[21:04] <asac> my theory: the more expensive the 3G auctions were the cheaper its now
[21:07] <fta> asac, did you figure out what is wrong with tb3?
[21:07] <fta> asac, you said before lunch 2 days ago ;)
[21:24] <BUGabundo> asac: ping
[21:26] <BUGabundo> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117843/
[21:26] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117844
[21:26] <BUGabundo> humm
[21:26] <BUGabundo> asac: are you here?
[21:27] <asac> busy atm
[21:28] <BUGabundo> ok
[21:28] <BUGabundo> np
[21:28] <BUGabundo> should I file a new bug to keep track of this?
[21:29] <fta> DIR=`get_conf $PKGCONF "pkgs/$SPKG/upstream"`
[21:29] <fta> oops
[21:29] <fta> stupid buffer
[21:31] <fta> BUGabundo, is there an irc channel for gwibber?
[21:32] <BUGabundo> yes
[21:32] <BUGabundo> on arstecnica irc netwrork
[21:32] <BUGabundo> #gwibber fta
[21:32] <BUGabundo> not many "monkeys" there
[21:32] <BUGabundo> but you can try your luck
[21:33] <fta> pff, another network, no thanks then
[21:33] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[21:33] <BUGabundo> yah
[21:33] <BUGabundo> I know the feeling
[21:33] <BUGabundo> I alread yhave 4
[21:33] <BUGabundo> Could not upload report data to crash database:
[21:33] <BUGabundo> <urlopen error The write operation timed out>
[21:33] <BUGabundo> stupid apport/LP/3G
[21:48] <BUGabundo> asac: fta bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/329228
[21:48] <BUGabundo> asac: you can mark it as dupe of any you feel is the same thing
[21:48] <BUGabundo> but since this is jaunty and used apport I choose to open a new one
[22:54] <fta> bug 327239
[23:03] <fta> fixed a buch of regressions in my bot. sigh :P
[23:03] <BUGabundo_> asac: are u interessed on NM -> FON WPA fail connections  debug too?
[23:03] <fta> let's see how it is now
[23:14] <fta> asac, could you please hand over https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily to me?
[23:15] <BUGabundo> asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/281348/comments/35
[23:15] <BUGabundo> bzr ubufox fix one bug, makes 2 new ones
[23:16] <BUGabundo> fta do you have that bug that gnome-freak pasted this afternoon?
[23:16] <BUGabundo> about some sites fail to open with SSL?
[23:16] <BUGabundo> I think I found something related to it, when I installed the new ubufox
[23:17] <fta> bug 328491
[23:17] <BUGabundo> thanks
[23:19] <BUGabundo> Feb 13 22:48:07 blubug kernel: [  341.031667] WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.28/drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c:326 serial_write_room+0x81/0x90()
[23:19] <BUGabundo> Feb 13 22:48:07 blubug kernel: [  341.031670] Modules linked in: binfmt_misc acpi_cpufreq input_polldev xfs coretemp sbp2 ppdev parport_pc lp parport joydev snd_hda_intel snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_seq_dummy arc4 snd_seq_oss ecb snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi snd_seq_midi_event gl860 psmouse serio_raw sdhci_pci sdhci compat_ioctl32 videodev v4l1_compat snd_seq btusb iwlagn iwlcore lbm_cw_mac80211 snd_timer snd_seq_device snd pcspkr lbm
[23:19] <BUGabundo> Feb 13 22:48:07 blubug kernel: [  341.031727] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: P        W  2.6.28-7-generic #20-Ubuntu
[23:19] <BUGabundo> Feb 13 22:48:07 blubug kernel: [  341.031729] Call Trace:
[23:19] <BUGabundo> Feb 13 22:48:07 blubug kernel: [  341.031731]  <IRQ>  [<ffffffff8024d8ef>] warn_on_slowpath+0x5f/0x90
[23:19] <BUGabundo> fta does this mean anything to you ?
[23:22] <fta> not much, ask the kernel guys
[23:22] <BUGabundo> yeap
[23:22] <BUGabundo> filing bug now
[23:38] <asac> sorry ... somehow ended up having three hours continuous phone calls :/
[23:39] <BUGabundo_> np
[23:39] <BUGabundo_> i've done some bug mail to you
[23:39] <BUGabundo_> lol
[23:39] <BUGabundo_> just grep your archive for my nick
[23:40] <BUGabundo1> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/329254
[23:40] <BUGabundo1> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/329228
[23:41] <BUGabundo1> and the infamouse https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/260656
[23:41] <BUGabundo_> humm bad firefox awesome bar
[23:41] <BUGabundo_> thats not it
[23:42] <BUGabundo_> ah bug 329228
[23:44] <BUGabundo_> asac: and i have yet to file a new NM bug on FON AP
[23:44] <BUGabundo_> there are already at least 2 ones opened
[23:44] <BUGabundo_> but this is new on jaunty
[23:44] <BUGabundo_> will reporte it later or during the weekend
[23:47] <asac> BUGabundo_: "GSM pin secret required" ... do you get a dialog at that point?
[23:47] <BUGabundo1> yep
[23:47] <BUGabundo1> at least ONCE
[23:47] <BUGabundo1> not sure if it asks any more times
[23:48] <BUGabundo1> I have NOW removed the PIN, so the new attemps should not see that...
[23:48] <asac> BUGabundo_: anyway ... where is the SERIAL log i asked for
[23:48] <BUGabundo1> the new bug I filed agains the kernel should have logs of connection attempts without PIN
[23:48] <BUGabundo1> bah!
[23:48] <asac> also you didnt set the ppp/options to debug
[23:48] <BUGabundo1> was the serial log needed to?
[23:48]  * BUGabundo1 is dumb
[23:49] <BUGabundo1> I did not! I have lousy memory
[23:49] <asac> BUGabundo_: well. you asked me how to debug. i gave link to serial bug
[23:49] <asac> now you opened bugs without serial log
[23:49] <BUGabundo_> doing it now
[23:49] <asac> BUGabundo_: also enable debug in /etc/ppp/options
[23:50] <BUGabundo_> debug option done
[23:50] <BUGabundo_> brb
[23:51] <BUGabundo_> trying new capture for serial
[23:51] <BUGabundo_> asac: one question
[23:52] <BUGabundo_> how do i find the driver its asks to unload?
[23:53] <BUGabundo_> brb
[23:54] <dtchen> fta: the volume (mis)behaviour you describe is known as "flat volume" (think MS Vista)
[23:55] <fta> gasp
[23:55] <dtchen> fta: i can't reproduce your m-c-k error, though
[23:55] <fta> how can i disable the thing taking control of the volume?
[23:55] <dtchen> (it's worth noting that Ubuntu will likely be the only distro not shipping 0.9.15; Fedora and Mandriva at least are)
[23:56] <dtchen> fta: don't know offhand; i'm wasting^Hspending my time trying to wrap up 0.9.14 for jaunty ;)
[23:57] <fta> hm, ok
[23:57] <dtchen> oh wait, you don't have the spatial/effects module loaded, do you?
[23:58] <fta> 0.9.15 seems a bit better for my main desktop, but openarena is crappy now, and the volume changes randomly from one app to the other
[23:58] <fta> how do i check that?
[23:59] <dtchen> sorry, module-position-event-sounds
[23:59] <dtchen> check /etc/pulse/default.pa; if it's uncommented, it's loaded by default