[00:14] <Khronos> is there a way to enable the dhcp daemon on only one interface?
[00:16] <vano> Just installed debian-server with tomcat, however the app server doesnt seem to be serving pages, even the examples which are already installed do not work (they are rendered as plain text). This is an untweaked brand new installation. Any ideas?
[00:16] <vano> sorry, I meant ubuntu-server, not debian.
[00:20] <VK7HSE> Khronos: in your /etc/default directory there is a file called dhcp3-server in this is where you define what interfaces you want your dhcp server to serve on ;-)
[00:29] <roy_hobbs> I'm trying to install some drivers.  I encounter this during "make install" Makefile:98: *** Linux kernel source not configured - missing version.h.  Stop.
[01:00] <Khronos> thanks VK7HSE
[01:00] <Khronos> added that
[01:06] <kansan> how often do folks here run mysql backups?
[01:06] <kansan> specially if they are incremental
[01:14] <sommer> kansan: I run daily fulls, but my databases aren't that big
[01:17] <kansan> how often
[01:17] <kansan> oh daily
[01:17] <andol> same here
[01:18] <andol> no big databases in my case either thought. nothing bigger than a few hundred megabytes.
[01:22] <evarlast> daily
[01:29] <isaacsm> daily mysql backups on several large production dbs
[02:46] <kansan> can someone tell me why mysql wont shut down?  there is no output in /var/log/syslog;  /var/log/mysql/ ....  ubuntu hardy
[02:48] <mathiaz> kansan: try /var/log/daemon.log
[02:50] <kansan> MatBoy, theres stuff about mysql there
[02:50] <kansan> but nothinga bout why it failed
[02:51] <kansan> is it weird that i would have two mysqlld_safe's  :  http://pastie.org/387877
[03:13] <MatBoy> kansan: ?
[03:13] <MatBoy> I love you too !
[03:13] <kansan> MatBoy, ;p
[03:13] <MatBoy> kansan: ok, we need to make love now
[03:14] <MatBoy> actually I want to sleep ;)
[03:18] <MatBoy> kansan: sorry, next time better ;)
[03:52] <Kkoala> hi i need help with an install
[03:55] <Rafael_> i have software raid on ubuntu server, i have test it multiple ways and it works beatifull. something very strange i have notice: very often the raid goes into degrade mode and one of the drive disapers, i thoight was a physical problem wth the drive, i have test all the 3 drives with Western Digital softare and drive are fine, is this a now issue with software raid
[07:03] <|Sigma|> hello
[07:07] <|Sigma|> anyone interested in giving me a hand? I have a strange problem... wireless card refuses to get an ipv4 address, but it manages to get an ipv6 easily enough
[07:12] <twb> "get an IP address" meaning via DHCP?
[07:12] <|Sigma|> correct
[07:12] <twb> Is this really a question for -server?
[07:12] <|Sigma|> well, I AM running server edition
[07:12] <twb> "server edition" is backed by the same package archive; the main difference is the default package list.
[07:13] <twb> Is NetworkManager running?  Does /etc/network/interfaces refer to the wireless interface?
[07:13] <twb> If "yes" to the latter question, does it refer to "inet6" instead of "inet"?
[07:13] <|Sigma|> no GUI, hence no network manager. /etc/network/interface does refer to wlan
[07:13] <|Sigma|> and give me a sec for the last one
[07:14] <twb> NetworkManager has no GUI.
[07:14] <|Sigma|> no, it refers to "inet'"
[07:14] <|Sigma|> huh
[07:14] <|Sigma|> well, I don't have it installed, at least >_>
[07:14] <twb> The applet is a separate, wrapper program that interacts with NM via the dbus protocol.
[07:15] <twb> aptitude search network-manager should tell you if it's installed, just to double-check.
[07:15] <twb> IME most of the network problems on Ubuntu are caused by that bloody piece of shit.
[07:17] <|Sigma|> not installed, just checked again
[07:17] <|Sigma|> give me a second, I just disabled ipv6 globally (I hope)... dunno why I didn't think of that earlier
[07:18] <|Sigma|> I've been fighting this beast for about 5 hours, just missing the IP now... I'm happy it can scan
[07:20] <twb> |Sigma|: OK, what happens if you manually run "dhclient foo0", where foo0 is the interface name
[07:23] <|Sigma|> fails miserably after a couple tries
[07:23] <twb> OK, next I would check the DHCP server.
[07:23] <twb> After that, I would try wireshark/tshark sniffing of the packets.
[07:23] <|Sigma|> well, all other computers on my network are getting their IPs perfectly fine
[07:24] <|Sigma|> so DHCP server not a problem
[07:24] <twb> |Sigma|: are they getting their IPs over wifi, or ethernet?
[07:25] <|Sigma|> wifi
[07:25] <twb> OK, time to start packet sniffing.
[07:25] <|Sigma|> time to look for a good sniffer that runs on mac, then
[07:26] <ScottK> tdpdump should work.
[07:26] <|Sigma|> thanks, I'll try it out
[07:26] <twb> tcpdump pisses me off, compared to tshark
[07:27] <twb> YMMV, of course.
[07:27] <|Sigma|> I might give static DHCP a try first though
[07:28] <|Sigma|> *sigh* no go, time to look up that sniffer
[08:02]  * |Sigma| feels really really stupid
[08:08] <|Sigma|> so, the only thing it picks up is a LOT of SSDP protocol connections from the router
[08:45] <kraut> moin
[09:04] <twb> |Sigma|: did you work out what the problem was?
[09:04] <|Sigma|> looks like the router isn't answering ARP request
[09:05] <|Sigma|> the NIC keeps on spamming who-has messages
[09:05] <|Sigma|> but I don't get it
[09:05] <|Sigma|> since all my other computers work fine
[09:05] <mario_> Hello!
[09:05] <|Sigma|> hi
[09:05] <mario_> i have added the line "192.168.123.123 www.foobar.de foobar.de" to my /etc/hosts
[09:06] <mario_> but if i ping www.foobar.de i still get a official ip.
[09:06] <mario_> it works with foobar.de (then i get 192.168.123.123)
[09:06] <mario_> any idea if ubuntu it caching the dns stuff somewhere?
[09:07] <|Sigma|> mario_: how are you accessing the domain? web browser?
[09:08] <|Sigma|> clear out the browser;s domain if yes
[09:08] <|Sigma|> if no.... no clue >_
[09:08] <|Sigma|> >_>
[09:08] <mario_> command line ping :)
[09:08] <|Sigma|> er, I mean, browser's cache
[09:08] <|Sigma|> heh
[09:09] <|Sigma|> sorry man, no clue.... it shouldn't :p
[09:09] <mario_> well, why use the browser if its not even workign correctly on my console? :)
[09:09] <mario_> hehe, thanks anyway
[09:09] <|Sigma|> restart?
[09:09] <mario_> already done, but now i feel like a windows users. And i did not even succeed :P
[09:10] <mario_> ahh...i typed 4 w :)
[09:10] <mario_> stupid me!
[09:13] <|Sigma|> huh? problem solved?
[09:13] <|Sigma|> .. I wish my problem was that easy <_<
[09:14] <mario_> what have you got?
[09:14] <|Sigma|> mario_: by the way, google says restarting the networking daemon clears the cache... so technically your reboot DID clear it up :p
[09:14] <|Sigma|> a wireless NIC that refuses to get an IP address
[09:15] <|Sigma|> I've come a long way though... at the beginning it refused to show up in the system at all
[09:37] <nobse> hi
[09:38]  * |Sigma| waves
[09:46] <soren> |Sigma|: Does the dhcp server show anything in the logs?
[09:47] <|Sigma|> soren: the log shows ARP requests get no answer :s
[09:47] <dayo2> where is the init script for logrotate in 8.04?
[09:47] <soren> dayo2: There is none?
[09:47] <soren> it runs from cron.
[09:48] <soren> |Sigma|: So it's statically configured?
[09:48] <dayo2> soren: i've edited /etc/logrotate.conf   do i need to restart cron or something?
[09:48] <soren> dayo2: No.
[09:48] <dayo2> soren: ok, thanks :-)
[09:49] <|Sigma|> soren: no, pure DHCP. I did try static though, and no go
[09:49] <soren> |Sigma|: arp is used to map ip's to mac addresses.
[09:49] <soren> |Sigma|: If it doesn't have an IP yet (since it's trying to get one via dhcp), how does ARP factor into it?
[09:50] <|Sigma|> no clue, yet it shows up in the logs
[09:50] <soren> What does?
[09:50] <|Sigma|> HAH
[09:50] <|Sigma|> IT WORKS
[09:50] <soren> Exactly what are the arp requests you see?
[09:50] <|Sigma|> so stupid
[09:51] <|Sigma|> soren: it was doing who-has requests that never got answered
[09:51] <|Sigma|> you remember earlier when I was complaining that all I could get were IPv6 IPs?
[09:51] <|Sigma|> well, I disabled IPv6 globally...
[09:52] <|Sigma|> I just re-enabled it, and everything decided to work
[09:52] <|Sigma|> no clue what the hell I did to fix it
[09:52] <|Sigma|> but I'm glad it works
[09:52] <|Sigma|> signal is incredibly low though
[09:53] <|Sigma|> but speed doesn't seem hindered :D
[09:53] <dayo2> this is a sample of my /var/log/kern.log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/117586/   can someone explain to me how to read that?
[09:55] <|Sigma|> soren: sorry for having been such a pain. I created my own problem... but I did learn how to sniff packets, and i thank you for that :p
[09:55] <soren> Heh :)
[09:56]  * |Sigma| is outta here. 9 hours straight fixing a friggin NIC....
[09:56] <|Sigma|> ciao!
[10:04] <ivoks> is it only me or...
[10:04] <ivoks> checking for gcc...4.2.4
[10:04] <ivoks> checking for kernel gcc version...4.2.3
[10:04] <ivoks> this doesn't look right
[12:34] <dmacnutt> anyone have any web resources for "Best Practices" in terms of server setup and hardening?
[12:50] <kinnaz> anyone has used ACL with OCFS2 ?
[13:02] <sergevn> hi, maybe i cant ask my question here.
[13:02] <sergevn> I have a bash script that calls a java-jar application, it exits with an error.
[13:02] <sergevn> so i 2> /dev/null the bash script
[13:03] <sergevn> probleem is cron doesnt, is it possible to fix this?
[13:07] <ivoks> cron does what you tell it to do
[13:07] <sergevn> hi ivoks
[13:07] <ivoks> so if you put shell_script 2> /dev/null, it won't give you error output
[13:07] <ivoks> cron only mails you output of the command
[13:08] <ivoks> so, it's up to you to redirect output of that command to /dev/null
[13:08] <sergevn> ah than i have to create a shell script, for the shellscript
[13:08] <ivoks> ?
[13:09] <ivoks> put in cron:
[13:09] <ivoks> * * * my_shell_script 2> /dev/null
[13:09] <sergevn> ah ok, i put it in /etc/cron.hourly :)
[13:09] <ivoks> then make sure that script doesn't provide output
[13:10] <ivoks> if that script calls java file
[13:10] <sergevn> #!/bin/bash
[13:10] <sergevn> sudo -u serge java -jar ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar -p ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.properties 2> /dev/null
[13:10] <ivoks> redirect output of java program to /dev/null
[13:10] <sergevn> yeah ive done that, still error from cron
[13:10] <ivoks> sudo -u serge "java -jar blablabla 2>/dev/null"
[13:11] <ivoks> otherwise you are redirecting sudo's stderr
[13:11] <sergevn> aah ok :)
[13:11] <sergevn> now seeing the logic :)
[13:15] <UndertakerX2> can some one give me more info on the error "bind failed: EACCES"?
[13:16] <sergevn> ivoks: now it expects the commented command phrase as one single command
[13:17] <sergevn> ivoks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/117635/
[13:20] <ivoks> does /root//src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar exist?
[13:20] <sergevn> root?
[13:20] <sergevn> it's invoked by the user serge right?
[13:20] <ivoks> but enviroment is from root
[13:20] <ivoks> sudo -i -u user
[13:21] <ivoks> so, like this:
[13:21] <ivoks> sudo -i -u serge -c "java -jar ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar -p ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.properties 2> /dev/null"
[13:21] <ivoks> man sudo can help you
[13:22] <ivoks> er... no:)
[13:23] <ivoks> sudo -i -u serge java -jar ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar -p ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.properties 2> /dev/null
[13:23] <ivoks> this should work
[13:27] <sergevn> lol now the command isnt executed at all :D
[13:28] <ivoks> how do you know?
[13:29] <sergevn> because the function of the script doesnt work :)
[13:29] <sergevn> it is supposed to leech email from outlookwebaccess and forward it, takes some seconds, now none, and mail doesnt arrive :)
[13:30] <ivoks> shy do you use sudo anyway?
[13:30] <sergevn> hmm /usr/bin/java: /usr/bin/java: cannot execute binary file
[13:31] <sergevn> because i dont want the script to run as root :)
[13:31] <sergevn> but now ill use crontab instead of cron.hourly
[13:31] <ivoks> then edit users' crontab
[13:31] <ivoks> crontab -e
[13:31] <ivoks> 00 * * * java -jar ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.jar -p ~/src/fetchExc-2.0/fetchExc.properties 2> /dev/null
[13:32] <sergevn> where does 00 stand for?
[13:32] <sergevn> every minute?
[13:32] <ivoks> no
[13:33] <ivoks> at 00 minutes
[13:33] <ivoks> * - every hour
[13:33] <ivoks> * * * - every day
[13:33] <ivoks> * * * * * - every minute
[13:33] <ivoks> 0 * * * * - every hour
[13:35] <sergevn> thanks
[13:49] <tgbryano_> im using hardy server on a 16 processor server and its only showing 8 cpus and an error in the logs saying max processors reached, how can i get it to see all the cpus?
[13:50] <ivoks> which kernel do you use?
[13:50] <tgbryano_> 2.6.24-16-server
[13:51] <ivoks> right...
[13:51] <ivoks> max. number of supported cpu in hardy is 8
[13:52] <ivoks> in intrepid it is 64
[13:52] <tgbryano_> darn, is there a kernel available to resolve this?, i was looking to stay with hardy as its lts..
[13:52] <ivoks> well, you could rebuild kernel
[13:52] <ivoks> and set this option to higher
[13:53] <tgbryano_> whens the next lts out? is it april?
[13:53] <ivoks> april next year
[13:53] <ivoks> every 2 years
[13:53] <ivoks> let me ask kernel team if there are plans to support >8 in hardy
[13:53] <tgbryano_> ok thanks, i think i will have to go with intrepid, should be able to do a dist-update to the next lts without much problem
[13:54] <tgbryano_> ok thanks
[13:54] <ivoks> not dist-upgrade
[13:54] <ivoks> do-release-upgrade
[13:54] <ivoks> that will do everything for you to jump from 8.10 to 9.04 then to 9.10 and finally to next-lts 10.04
[13:55] <ivoks> newsflash...
[13:55] <ivoks> 64bit hardy supports 64cpu
[13:56] <tgbryano_> what about the 32 bit?
[13:57] <tgbryano_> they are reluctant to use 64 bit as we are using 32 bit oracle..
[13:57] <ivoks> 8
[13:57] <ivoks> 64bit version supports 32bit apps
[13:57] <ivoks> just put linux32 in front :)
[13:58] <tgbryano_> will it be unstable? im trying to move our servers over to ubuntu, we use oracle 9i at the moment
[13:58] <ivoks> i never used 32bit oracle on 64bit arch
[13:59] <ivoks> i've used firefox only :)
[14:01] <tgbryano_> lol oh well i will find out
[14:02] <ivoks> tgbryano_: let me know how it goes
[14:03] <tgbryano_> will do, thanks for your help
[14:03] <ivoks> i have oracle on one server too, and would like to move to 64bit :)
[14:43] <dmacnutt> anyone have any web resources for "Best Practices" in terms of server setup and hardening?
[14:49] <UndertakerX2> can some one give me more info on the error "bind failed: EACCES"?
[15:17] <andylockran> UndertakerX2: what was thecommand you ran to generate the error ?
[15:20] <soren> UndertakerX2: It's usally due to attempting to bind to a <1024 port as non-root.
[15:20] <andylockran> soren: yeah, was going to check the command then recommend running 'sudo '
[16:06] <melter> i used to get firewall messages like "IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= ..." in /var/log/messages, but they're no longer there. is there some setting that will put them back?
[16:06] <soren> melter: ufw logging on
[16:07] <melter> soren: i don't use ufw, i have my own iptables script
[16:08] <melter> i'm using 8.04, btw
[16:09] <melter> i just tested my firewall, and it seems to work
[16:09] <melter> it's stopping traffic, it's just not logging it anymore
[16:11] <ivoks> check you script then
[16:12] <ivoks> your
[16:13] <melter> ivoks: what do i look for? is there some iptables argument?
[16:14] <ivoks> -j LOG
[16:14] <melter> i can't remember making any changes other than adding the occasional ip
[16:15] <melter> ok, i'll look, thanks
[16:17] <melter> ivoks: thanks! that line was uncommented for some reason
[16:18] <ivoks> bye all
[16:27] <andol> exit
[17:17] <bdmurray> kirkland: yeah for developer doc search!
[17:19] <Blah78> Hi, I have a quick question, maybe someone can help me out: I'm trying to install a minimal xorg server, just xorg-core, xorg-input-kbd and xorg-video-vesa but apt will always try to install every single xorg package it knows. Is there any way to avoid this and install just those three packages and the real dependencies? btw I'm coming from gentoo, and I know I shouldn't install X on a...
[17:19] <Blah78> ...server, but this is not for a server exactly ;)
[17:27] <andyfailran> 5/5
[17:27] <kirkland> bdmurray: :-)  \o/
[17:36] <lmr> dendrobates: Hey Rick
[17:36] <dendrobates> lmr: hi
[17:36] <lmr> dendrobates: How's it going? :)
[17:36] <dendrobates> lmr: good, and you.
[18:26] <slicslak> i just setup ubuntu in vmware2.  from a totally different linux box, i ssh into the new one, but i can't rsync.  the rsync error:  ubuntuhostname: Connection refused
[18:26] <slicslak> usually rsync just works when ssh does.  any ideas?
[18:27] <Deeps> specifiy -e ssh when you run rsync?
[18:27] <sommer> kirkland: is there supposed to be an ecryptfs kernel module for jaunty?
[18:29] <slicslak> Deeps, yep thanks.  odd.  normally that's default isn't it?
[18:31] <Deeps> slicslak: dunno, might be an ubuntu default? i dont use just ubuntu though, so i've always specified
[18:31] <slicslak> right
[18:32] <slicslak> i think i'm on a centos client.  not really used to RH.  i'll have to remember to specify that now.
[18:54] <mrcoodles>  hello everyone, i just installed ubuntu server 8.10 as a guest os on vmware, under windows vista - and i have no clue how to give it internet access. can anyone help ?
[18:55] <ivoks> that really doesn't depend on guest, but on host
[18:56] <ivoks> by default, ubuntu server installation will look for dhcp server to get an IP
[18:56] <ivoks> if there's no dhcp server, it will ask user to give information about ip
[18:56] <ivoks> if you have't typed ip address and stuff like that, then your vmware has a dhcp server (which is normal and default)
[18:57] <ivoks> now, why your guest os (in this case ubuntu) can't access internet is really a question for vmware and/or host operating system
[18:58] <mrcoodles> it usually works on desktoplinuxes. my host os connection is via pppoe; im a bit confused as to what im supposed to add to the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[18:59] <ivoks> well, what's there now?
[19:00] <mrcoodles> there's two lines for the loopback interfaces, which is working
[19:00] <mrcoodles> and somethign labeled The primary network interface
[19:00] <mrcoodles> auto eth0
[19:00] <mrcoodles> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[19:00] <mrcoodles> and i have no clue what they mean.
[19:03] <ivoks> this means that:
[19:03] <ivoks> a) eth0 interface will be up on boot
[19:03] <ivoks> b) it will look at dhcp server for address
[19:03] <kirkland> sommer: it's built in
[19:08] <sommer> kirkland: ah
[19:08] <kirkland> sommer: part of the faster boot time work
[19:09] <sommer> kirkland: I get this error when trying to do a mount -t ecryptfs /srv /srv  http://paste.ubuntu.com/117781/
[19:10] <sommer> kirkland: and was wondering if it was because of the module not being there
[19:10] <kirkland> sommer: interesting, open a bug, would you?
[19:11] <sommer> kirkland: sure, I get a similar, but different, error when trying the ecryptfs-setup-private utility as well
[19:12] <sommer> kirkland: I'll post the output of both in the bug, thanks
[19:12] <kirkland> sommer: i was just rolling out the -70 release right now
[19:12] <kirkland> sommer: i'd like to get these fixed in that one
[19:12] <mrcoodles> anyone has some additional clues about my vmware network thingie ?
[19:13] <ivoks> mrcoodles: well, have you tested if guest can access internet, if yes, how?
[19:14] <mrcoodles> ivoks well, pinging google.
[19:14] <ivoks> bad test
[19:15] <ivoks> try nslookup www.google.com
[19:15] <ivoks> if that works, you have link
[19:15] <mrcoodles> dns not working either.
[19:15] <ivoks> ok, so now you know at least dns doesn't work
[19:15] <ivoks> try this
[19:15] <ivoks> mtr 74.125.39.103
[19:16] <mrcoodles> oops silly, me , i pinged the ip and that worked.
[19:16] <mrcoodles> so seems like just the dns is missing.
[19:16] <ivoks> so, dns is in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:16] <ivoks> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[19:16] <ivoks> to see what's your DNS
[19:16] <ivoks> your DNS is being provided by DHCP
[19:17] <mrcoodles> its 192.168.37.2
[19:17] <ivoks> that's from vmware
[19:20] <mrcoodles> uhm, probably.
[19:21] <sommer> yay for ivoks and email :)
[19:23] <kees> ivoks: oh, we should totally compile postfix PIE if we've got dovecot that way.
[19:23] <ivoks> pie?
[19:24]  * ivoks confused :)
[19:24] <kees> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/BuiltPIE
[19:24] <ivoks> security stuff?
[19:24] <kees> ivoks: yeah
[19:24] <ivoks> kees: i'll leave that to you :)
[19:24] <kees> :)
[19:25] <lamont> kees: woot
[19:25] <kees> lamont: should be the same as we did for bind9
[19:25] <kees> oh..er
[19:26] <kees> nevermind!
[19:26] <kees> already done.  hahah
[19:26]  * kees goes to find some coffee
[19:26] <lamont> was postfix not done, then?
[19:26] <kees> I thought it hadn't been done, but it was on the list for intrepid.  I opened up the debian/rules and saw "export DEB_BUILD_HARDENING=1" :P
[19:27] <kees> right.  back to other work now
[19:29] <lamont> \o/
[19:31] <lamont> kees: let's put packit in ship-seed. :-p
[19:33] <kirkland> sommer: hmm, i was about to ecryptfs-setup-private just fine in a fresh jaunty
[19:33] <kirkland> sommer: can you tell me more about your error?
[19:35] <sommer> kirkland: sure, what should I look for
[19:35] <sommer> kirkland: I was testing it inside a kvm, if that matters
[19:35] <kirkland> sommer: me too
[19:35] <vimpulse> lllama:  go ahead and describe the long version whenever you're ready.  :)
[19:35] <kirkland> sommer: can you pastebin the dialog (sans passwords)
[19:35] <kirkland> sommer: and error messages?
[19:37] <sommer> kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117789/
[19:38] <kees> lamont: heh.  I've been trying to keep IDS out of main.  :)
[19:38] <mrcoodles> @ivoks i modified the nameserver from the local address vmware one to the one in windows. it works. im unbelievably happy.
[19:38] <kees> lamont: oh, not IDS, just an injector.
[19:38] <kees> lamont: how does packit compare to nemesis ?
[19:39] <kirkland> sommer: ls -alF $HOME
[19:40] <mrcoodles> ehm, can i get ubuntu server a gui ?
[19:40] <sommer> kirkland: ya, forgot to remove the previous Private folder here's a better paste with errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117791/
[19:40] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  yes, sudo aptitude install xorg-server, but why do you want one?
[19:40] <vimpulse> mrcoodles: oops i meant sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[19:40] <vimpulse> i think
[19:41] <mrcoodles> because it took me half an hour to figure out how to use vi.
[19:41] <sommer> kirkland: ls output http://paste.ubuntu.com/117792/
[19:41] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  then you should use nano :)
[19:41] <kirkland> sommer: dude
[19:41] <kirkland> sommer: why does root own Private and .Private
[19:41] <kirkland> sommer: did you "sudo" it at some point?
[19:41] <sommer> kirkland: nope
[19:42] <kirkland> sommer: okay, root should *not* own it
[19:42] <sommer> kirkland: should I scrap those and start over?
[19:42] <kirkland> sommer: could you sanitize your environment like so:
[19:42] <kirkland> sommer: sudo adduser foo
[19:42] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: can i ehm search by description or smth with that aptitude thingie ?
[19:42] <kirkland> sommer: then ssh foo@localhost
[19:42] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  yes.  sudo aptitude
[19:43] <kirkland> sommer: then ecryptfs-setup-private as foo
[19:43] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  will bring up the aptitude TUI.
[19:43] <sommer> kirkland: sure one sec
[19:44] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  but there are better options, like apt-cache search, which searches descriptions as well.  or www.freshmeat.net, which lists more packages than aptitude.  But do you know why you should never compile software yourself when possible and use aptitude instead?
[19:44] <sommer> kirkland: hrmm, it worked fine
[19:44] <sommer> kirkland: must have been something I did
[19:44] <kirkland> sommer: your other setup is unclean
[19:44] <kirkland> sommer: root should not own any of those files in your homedir
[19:45] <kirkland> sommer: that can easily happen if you sudo something you didn't need to sudo
[19:45] <kirkland> sommer: such as ecryptfs-setup-private
[19:45] <kirkland> sommer: sudo ecryptfs-setup-private would create the exact situation you have there
[19:45] <kirkland> well, it could
[19:45] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: because it's easier, lol ?
[19:46] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  yeah :)
[19:46] <sommer> kirkland: gotcha, I must have used sudo after trying the mount -t ecryptfs command
[19:46] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: ok, how do i highlight the search button on top, lol
[19:46] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  most stuff at freshmeat is also available in aptitude, you just have to apt-cache search and find out the package name.
[19:46] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  i don't remember.
[19:46] <vimpulse> you are probably new to Ubuntu.  I recommend you take out a good book about Ubuntu from your local library or buy one from www.abebooks.com btw.
[19:47] <kirkland> sommer: i am also having trouble with the mount -t ecryptfs command
[19:47] <kirkland> sommer: i'm debugging that now
[19:47] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  btw I am currently using vista so I can't check for you :(  anyone?
[19:47] <kirkland> sommer: that's a major bug
[19:47] <vimpulse> at least /me has cygwin
[19:47] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: me too.
[19:47] <kees> we should add molly-guard to the server seed.  :)
[19:47] <sommer> kirkland: ah cool... well cool in the sense that I didn't mess that up :)
[19:48] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  for the aptitude help, you press Control+T then move to the help menu I think.  for the manual:  cd /usr/share/doc/aptitude*
[19:49] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  ask again in 2 min if you don't figure out how to do what you want.
[19:49] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: oh great. now. how did you know this
[19:49] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  good memory thank god :)
[19:49] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  btw I made a mistake.  To install a GUI, do not xserver-xorg.  Instead, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[19:50] <vimpulse> *mrcoodles:  btw I made a mistake.  To install a GUI, do not install xserver-xorg.  Instead, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[19:51] <mrcoodles> vimpulse: ill probably run into trouble trying to do that. link to cool readables for noobs ? like a tutorial , anything but an 800-page book.
[19:51] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  the GUI comes with the "Add/Remove..." tool and the "synaptic" tool both of which are much nicer GUIs than aptitude's TUI.
[19:51] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  I dunno about alternatives books.  I don't read entire books, I just use them as references.  anyone know an answer to mrcoodles's question?
[19:51] <vimpulse> *alternatives to books
[20:02] <vimpulse> mrcoodles:  ask in #ubuntu
[20:03] <vimpulse> lllama:  or, use a GUI tool, see if it succeeds, if it does then copy its output into a cron job command line
[20:05] <lllama> vimpulse: this is where I've got to: http://pastebin.com/d7cf3e4f8
[20:06] <lllama> inodes all different.
[20:06] <lllama> Same on CentOS.
[20:08] <vimpulse> lllama:  you wrote "Short version - we'd prefer certain data not to sit on a particular server for too long, so we're going to pull it off and wipe the machine each day. The snapshots will be used so that users can access an accurate copy of what they were doing."  What is the long version?
[20:09] <lllama> vimpulse: Longer. Just trust me that it has to happen that way.
[20:10] <vimpulse> I trust, but verify :)
[20:10] <vimpulse> so?
[20:11] <lllama> I'll tell you if I get it working.
[20:22] <phreestyle-work> question for the server gurus out there....is there a way I can move my eBox firewall configuration to Webmin?
[20:43] <phreestyle-work> is anyone even here?
[20:51] <Deeps> !webmin | phreestyle-work
[20:51] <phreestyle-work> Deeps: eBox DOES NOT WORK FOR ME!
[20:52] <Deeps> phreestyle-work: shout all you want, it wont change the fact that webmin isn't supported!
[20:52] <phreestyle-work> Webmin is working perfectly fine for me
[20:53] <phreestyle-work> eBox is the problem....I have made changes to the configuration files because eBox doesn't have the options I need...so whenever I make a change to ebox, it wants to overwrite my changes
[20:54] <phreestyle-work> Deeps: either eBox needs to stop trying to overwrite my files, or I need to stop using it
[20:54] <Deeps> phreestyle-work: file a bug on launchpad?
[20:54] <antdedyet> read the documentation?
[20:54] <phreestyle-work> Deeps: it's not a bug though.
[20:55] <Deeps> phreestyle-work: then i'm out of ideas, maybe the webmin guys can help you?
[20:55] <phreestyle-work> it's the way eBox works....if I make a change to a dansgaurdian config file, eBox wants to overwrite that file with its own settings if I make any changes inside eBox
[20:56] <antdedyet> write a patch?
[20:56] <antdedyet> so that one can include external, unaffected gui files
[20:57] <antdedyet> or find a more elegant approach.
[20:58] <phreestyle-work> well, here's the thing....I can edit everything I need in webmin....except for the eBox firewall settings. If I can disable ebox and use webmin's firewall interface, I don't need ebox anymore....which is fine
[20:58] <Deeps> sounds like a good idea
[20:59] <phreestyle-work> and I don't know how to write a patch....seems like a waste of time since everything but one small peice is taken care of
[21:36] <lamont> kees: haven't played with nemesis...  packit I'm a bit more biased about, given who the debian maintainer is...
[21:46] <kansan> is there some way of testing how fast a drive's I/O is?  and telling me if its good/bad?
[22:06] <jmarsden|work> kansan: Run iozone or bonnie benchmarks?  Or even just use hdparm -t -T /dev/sda  or whatever?  There is no way for the software to tell you what is "good or bad", you need to compare results with other drives and systems...
[22:37] <Doonz> hey guys, if im using software raid (mdadm) and i pull out a failed drive and put a new one in what do i have to do so that drive is seen?