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LLStarkssup.05:12
brycexkeyboard-config   54 --> 3407:09
* RAOF should get a standing FFe for nouveau.07:10
RAOFInstead, he shall do the washing up.07:12
tjaaltonRAOF: I'll review libdrm this evening and upload07:16
brycenight guys, I'm beat07:17
RAOFWhile I think of it, xf86drmMode.h is broken.07:17
tjaaltonbryce: heh, night :)07:17
RAOFbryce: Good work.  Sleep well!07:17
RAOFI'd file a bug, but with my capped internet it'll take 10 minutes for launchpad to load07:17
brycetjaalton: all bugs in xkeyboard-config have been reviewed, old ones closed out, viable patches applied, upstreamable bugs upstreamed, etc.07:17
tjaaltona heroic effort for sure07:18
brycethere's a couple more that could be turned into proper patches with a bit of work, but I'll leave them for now.  Everything else is pretty much good to go for now.07:18
tjaaltonthree releases within two hours :)07:20
brycehey, all the xorg work yesterday made a decent dent in overall bug numbers:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/totals.svg07:20
brycethink next will be focusing on ATI.  Or maybe get blueprints squared away first07:22
bryce-intel needs a lot of attention, too, but where to begin07:22
tjaaltonheh07:22
bryceanyway... bed.  cya.07:23
tjaaltonbye07:23
LLStarkshi07:26
LLStarksdoes i915.modesetting=1 work with .29?07:26
tjaaltonno idea07:27
LLStarkswell.07:28
LLStarkshow do i enable kms then?07:28
LLStarksis having a native res bootup considered kms?07:29
LLStarksor does x have to launch?07:29
tjaaltonI've not used it yet, so..07:29
LLStarkswhat i've seen so far is awesome.07:29
LLStarksi can tell that plymouth is going to be orgasmic07:29
tjaaltonnative bootup res is kms07:29
tjaaltonwell, only after someone goes through the pain of writing a theme..07:30
RAOFUnless it's just a vesa mode, right?07:30
tjaaltonyes07:30
RAOFHah!  Launchpad email interface FTW!07:31
LLStarksbrb07:32
LLStarkstesting out my roll07:33
* LLStarks tosses a 20-sided kernel07:33
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tjaaltonhehe; http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/xorg-x11-server/devel/xserver-1.5.99.902-sod-off-poulsbo.patch?view=markup15:25
brycetjaalton: hah17:51
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jancbryce, are you around at this moment?22:47
jancor anybody else who knows Xorg in Ubuntu very well?22:48
janclast weekend I transported a multiseat-system from linuxservice.be to FOSDEM22:49
jancand while talking to the company's owner he said he couldn't use Ubuntu on his "multiseat extfreme" which has 12 seats (12 LCD screens, 12 keyboards, 12 mice)22:51
jancsomething about an X error that says there are "too many input devices"22:52
jancbut on Debian it just works22:52
jancso I'm sure this must be possible to fix in Ubuntu  ;-)22:52
tjaaltonperhaps it just won't work with input hotplug22:53
janctjaalton, it works in 8.10 with up to at least 6 seats?22:56
jancor do you mean it won't work in 9.04 at all?22:56
tjaaltonif it works in 8.10 then it's not that22:56
jancI thought maybe it's a built-time parameter?22:57
tjaaltonyou'd better ask the guy who did that22:57
jancI mean the number of possible input-devices might be a built-time parameter (so it would be the packager who decides this)?22:59
tjaaltonI've not heard of anything like that23:00
tjaaltonsounds silly23:00
janchm, then I wonder what makes the difference between Ubuntu & Debian  :-/23:01
tjaaltonwhat version of debian?23:02
jancI'm not sure, would have to ask him23:03
jancI'll ask him for more details when I have the time to investigate further23:04
tjaaltonok23:05
tjaaltonif it doesn't work in ubuntu, then I believe it'll be equally broken in debian experimental :)23:05
jancbut I know this limitation also existed last year's FOSDEM (thus Ubuntu 7.10)23:05
tjaaltonok, so it's the other way around23:06
tjaaltonmaybe he used the experimental version which is basically the same in jaunty23:06
janclast year it worked in Debian too...23:07
jancdon't know which Debian though23:07
tjaaltonok, well with this information there's not much I can say23:07
jancyeah, that's why I hoped for a compile-time option  ;)23:07
tjaaltonat least the evdev driver shouldn't have such limitations23:08
janchm, actually, this might be related to Xgl too, as that is also needed for these multiseat-systems23:11
tjaaltonXgl is dead23:11
jancthen how does compiz work with nvidia cards now?23:12
tjaaltonthe xserver supports AIGLX23:13
tjaaltonfor quite some time now23:13
jancyeah, I know, but AFAIK nvidia doesn't, and he also needs an X-server on top of Xorg or something  ;)23:14
wgrantnvidia has for ages...23:14
tjaaltonthen he must have some really old drivers23:14
tjaaltonquite pointless to speculate what he had or didn't have :)23:16
jancno, he needs an X-server running on top of Xorg for other reasons (from what I understood), it's just that there is no other useable option than Xgl or something23:16
jancso he uses nvidia because they support Xgl23:16
jancor something like that23:16
tjaaltonright, "something like that" :)23:17
jancmaybe I should find out how exactly these multiseats work23:17
brycehaha23:18
jancbut I think it's important to keep them working on Ubuntu23:18
jancand make them work as well as on debian23:18
tjaaltonno-one has been actively breaking anything23:19
* tjaalton whistles23:19
wgrantDidn't Xgl even get killed off upstream?23:19
tjaaltonyes23:19
janche sells these systems to schools and such, so we want to keep the multiseat concept working  :-)23:20
tjaaltonthen I'd expect him to complain if they don't :)23:21
jancwell, this is mostly an after-hours business for him...23:30
jancand he can use debian instead of ubuntu, while I'd prefer he'd use Ubuntu on all systems  ;-)23:39
tjaaltonif it's a highly customized version (as it sounds), I don't care that much :)23:40
jancit's not super-customized AFAIK (he only uses the default packages)23:42
jancI mean, packages from the repos23:43
jancno software that is compiled/packaged on the machine23:43
jancor in an unofficial repo23:44

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