[05:12] <LLStarks> sup.
[07:09] <bryce> xkeyboard-config   54 --> 34
[07:10]  * RAOF should get a standing FFe for nouveau.
[07:12] <RAOF> Instead, he shall do the washing up.
[07:16] <tjaalton> RAOF: I'll review libdrm this evening and upload
[07:17] <bryce> night guys, I'm beat
[07:17] <RAOF> While I think of it, xf86drmMode.h is broken.
[07:17] <tjaalton> bryce: heh, night :)
[07:17] <RAOF> bryce: Good work.  Sleep well!
[07:17] <RAOF> I'd file a bug, but with my capped internet it'll take 10 minutes for launchpad to load
[07:17] <bryce> tjaalton: all bugs in xkeyboard-config have been reviewed, old ones closed out, viable patches applied, upstreamable bugs upstreamed, etc.
[07:18] <tjaalton> a heroic effort for sure
[07:18] <bryce> there's a couple more that could be turned into proper patches with a bit of work, but I'll leave them for now.  Everything else is pretty much good to go for now.
[07:20] <tjaalton> three releases within two hours :)
[07:20] <bryce> hey, all the xorg work yesterday made a decent dent in overall bug numbers:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/totals.svg
[07:22] <bryce> think next will be focusing on ATI.  Or maybe get blueprints squared away first
[07:22] <bryce> -intel needs a lot of attention, too, but where to begin
[07:22] <tjaalton> heh
[07:23] <bryce> anyway... bed.  cya.
[07:23] <tjaalton> bye
[07:26] <LLStarks> hi
[07:26] <LLStarks> does i915.modesetting=1 work with .29?
[07:27] <tjaalton> no idea
[07:28] <LLStarks> well.
[07:28] <LLStarks> how do i enable kms then?
[07:29] <LLStarks> is having a native res bootup considered kms?
[07:29] <LLStarks> or does x have to launch?
[07:29] <tjaalton> I've not used it yet, so..
[07:29] <LLStarks> what i've seen so far is awesome.
[07:29] <LLStarks> i can tell that plymouth is going to be orgasmic
[07:29] <tjaalton> native bootup res is kms
[07:30] <tjaalton> well, only after someone goes through the pain of writing a theme..
[07:30] <RAOF> Unless it's just a vesa mode, right?
[07:30] <tjaalton> yes
[07:31] <RAOF> Hah!  Launchpad email interface FTW!
[07:32] <LLStarks> brb
[07:33] <LLStarks> testing out my roll
[07:33]  * LLStarks tosses a 20-sided kernel
[15:25] <tjaalton> hehe; http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/xorg-x11-server/devel/xserver-1.5.99.902-sod-off-poulsbo.patch?view=markup
[17:51] <bryce> tjaalton: hah
[22:47] <janc> bryce, are you around at this moment?
[22:48] <janc> or anybody else who knows Xorg in Ubuntu very well?
[22:49] <janc> last weekend I transported a multiseat-system from linuxservice.be to FOSDEM
[22:51] <janc> and while talking to the company's owner he said he couldn't use Ubuntu on his "multiseat extfreme" which has 12 seats (12 LCD screens, 12 keyboards, 12 mice)
[22:52] <janc> something about an X error that says there are "too many input devices"
[22:52] <janc> but on Debian it just works
[22:52] <janc> so I'm sure this must be possible to fix in Ubuntu  ;-)
[22:53] <tjaalton> perhaps it just won't work with input hotplug
[22:56] <janc> tjaalton, it works in 8.10 with up to at least 6 seats?
[22:56] <janc> or do you mean it won't work in 9.04 at all?
[22:56] <tjaalton> if it works in 8.10 then it's not that
[22:57] <janc> I thought maybe it's a built-time parameter?
[22:57] <tjaalton> you'd better ask the guy who did that
[22:59] <janc> I mean the number of possible input-devices might be a built-time parameter (so it would be the packager who decides this)?
[23:00] <tjaalton> I've not heard of anything like that
[23:00] <tjaalton> sounds silly
[23:01] <janc> hm, then I wonder what makes the difference between Ubuntu & Debian  :-/
[23:02] <tjaalton> what version of debian?
[23:03] <janc> I'm not sure, would have to ask him
[23:04] <janc> I'll ask him for more details when I have the time to investigate further
[23:05] <tjaalton> ok
[23:05] <tjaalton> if it doesn't work in ubuntu, then I believe it'll be equally broken in debian experimental :)
[23:05] <janc> but I know this limitation also existed last year's FOSDEM (thus Ubuntu 7.10)
[23:06] <tjaalton> ok, so it's the other way around
[23:06] <tjaalton> maybe he used the experimental version which is basically the same in jaunty
[23:07] <janc> last year it worked in Debian too...
[23:07] <janc> don't know which Debian though
[23:07] <tjaalton> ok, well with this information there's not much I can say
[23:07] <janc> yeah, that's why I hoped for a compile-time option  ;)
[23:08] <tjaalton> at least the evdev driver shouldn't have such limitations
[23:11] <janc> hm, actually, this might be related to Xgl too, as that is also needed for these multiseat-systems
[23:11] <tjaalton> Xgl is dead
[23:12] <janc> then how does compiz work with nvidia cards now?
[23:13] <tjaalton> the xserver supports AIGLX
[23:13] <tjaalton> for quite some time now
[23:14] <janc> yeah, I know, but AFAIK nvidia doesn't, and he also needs an X-server on top of Xorg or something  ;)
[23:14] <wgrant> nvidia has for ages...
[23:14] <tjaalton> then he must have some really old drivers
[23:16] <tjaalton> quite pointless to speculate what he had or didn't have :)
[23:16] <janc> no, he needs an X-server running on top of Xorg for other reasons (from what I understood), it's just that there is no other useable option than Xgl or something
[23:16] <janc> so he uses nvidia because they support Xgl
[23:16] <janc> or something like that
[23:17] <tjaalton> right, "something like that" :)
[23:17] <janc> maybe I should find out how exactly these multiseats work
[23:18] <bryce> haha
[23:18] <janc> but I think it's important to keep them working on Ubuntu
[23:18] <janc> and make them work as well as on debian
[23:19] <tjaalton> no-one has been actively breaking anything
[23:19]  * tjaalton whistles
[23:19] <wgrant> Didn't Xgl even get killed off upstream?
[23:19] <tjaalton> yes
[23:20] <janc> he sells these systems to schools and such, so we want to keep the multiseat concept working  :-)
[23:21] <tjaalton> then I'd expect him to complain if they don't :)
[23:30] <janc> well, this is mostly an after-hours business for him...
[23:39] <janc> and he can use debian instead of ubuntu, while I'd prefer he'd use Ubuntu on all systems  ;-)
[23:40] <tjaalton> if it's a highly customized version (as it sounds), I don't care that much :)
[23:42] <janc> it's not super-customized AFAIK (he only uses the default packages)
[23:43] <janc> I mean, packages from the repos
[23:43] <janc> no software that is compiled/packaged on the machine
[23:44] <janc> or in an unofficial repo