[00:00] <gmspence> anyone able to help me with my vpn connection - i can successfully authenticate however I can't get any traffic to go through the tunnel onto the internet.....
[00:00] <Titan8990> Rustyt0n, and what does the officail aircrack website say about your chipset?
[00:00] <Rustyt0n> that its supported for linux
[00:00] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: well, you will still need the nvidia drivers... so I'm not sure...
[00:00] <Rustyt0n> but i need to get the drivers so i can use the wireless card
[00:00] <^hashbang^> Scunizi: why not.. I do it all the time
[00:00] <bjb1959> I guess I'll try later since no one here seems to know
[00:00] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: They're installed
[00:00] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: I just have to insmod them whenever I reboot lol
[00:01] <Scunizi> dmsuperman: did you install nvidia drivers that came directly from the nvidia site?
[00:01] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: yea I know, but 9.04 isn't going to make this issue go away... it's something else, just not sure what yet.
[00:01] <dmsuperman> Scunizi: Aye
[00:01] <steve-o> is there help here or is there a better place
[00:01] <Titan8990> Rustyt0n, first off, is your problem that your wireless doesn't work or it doesn't inject?
[00:01] <Rustyt0n> it doesnt work
[00:01] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Oh no I mean hopefully some of my issues will be cleared up
[00:01] <Rustyt0n> its not showing on iwconfig
[00:02] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: oh oh, well I'd hope so =)
[00:02] <Titan8990> Rustyt0n, let me see the lspci line for your wireless device
[00:02] <redvamp128> !ask | steve-o:
[00:02] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Like I'll perhaps be able to use PAE + nvidia drivers without issue, or maybe (just maybe) flash 64bit will be usable by then :P
[00:02] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: sorry, my eyes are starting to get blurry =)
[00:02] <Huufarted> too much hash?  *RIMSHOT*
[00:02] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Hehe, time for bed or more coffee
[00:02] <Scunizi> dmsuperman: when I installed mine I first opened synaptic and uninstalled all references to nvidia that were installed.. then installed from a tty with the gdm stopped.. worked like a champ.. put 180.29 in today and automatically uninstalled the 180.22 drivers I had in there.
[00:02] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: I am using flash 64bit just fine =)
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> steve-o,  i think one can run network manager from the terminal with  some commnd that starts with 'nm- ' but i dont know the full name.. try 'nm<TABKEY> ' and see what it fills in.
[00:02] <gmspence> please anyone that can help me route traffic over my VPN then please PM me....i'm going bald pulling my hair out!
[00:02] <Rustyt0n> i tried lspci, but its not showin there either, i thougth that there had to be a specific command line for it, ty very much Titan
[00:03] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Flash will load maybe once in 15 attempts using 64bit for me
[00:03] <steve-o> thanks i'll try that now
[00:03] <redvamp128> Rustyt0n:  dmesg ?
[00:03] <jess> does anyone know if there is a "Linux FAQ" on the ubuntu forums
[00:03] <Titan8990> Rustyt0n, is it a usb device?
[00:03] <Rustyt0n> yes Titan
[00:03] <dmsuperman> Scunizi: I've learned long ago to not even install the nvidia repos versions
[00:03] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: did you install the version from labs.adobe.com?
[00:03] <Scunizi> jess: what info are you looking for.. basic stuff?
[00:03] <Titan8990> Rustyt0n, then it will show in: lsusb
[00:03] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Yeah, flash 10 latest beta?
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> jess,  theres faq's all over the internet :)
[00:03] <Titan8990> Rustyt0n, also, NO usb wireless devices are supported for injection
[00:03] <jess> yeah.. more so propagand for other users/ friends Scunizi  Dr_Willis
[00:04] <sathyrion> Does the nvidia drivers support HDMI out? Never tried.. only used VGA cable to mu LCD TV.
[00:04] <Huufarted> jess, something like this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/Guide
[00:04] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: yea
[00:04] <mjc> sathyrion: yes
[00:04] <dmsuperman> Scunizi: With the exception of intrepid on my laptop they've never even worked
[00:04] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Yeah, doesn't work :P
[00:04] <Scunizi> jess: check out www.scribd.com and search for whatever you want.. there's a lot of downloadable pdf books there and stuff you can read right online..
[00:04] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: what!!
[00:04] <dmsuperman> ^hashbang^: Yup :P
[00:04] <steve-o> Dr_Willis - it gave me some suggestions but i want the gui
[00:05] <^hashbang^> dmsuperman: hmm, open firefox and do about:plugins
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> steve-o,  try running them and see.. i dont know what one launches the gui tool
[00:05] <evilGUI> anyone know if it's possible to have list view on the Desktop in GNOME?
[00:05] <Scunizi> dmsuperman: suprizingly the 177 drivers worked for me on my laptop with an 8400 card in hardy but wouldn't on my desktop with an 8200 card.. the 180.29 drivers actaully make the screen writes almost tolerable.
[00:05] <steve-o> thanks again
[00:05] <Huufarted> evilGUI, good idea.  I'd like that, too.
[00:06] <Scunizi> dmsuperman: desktop was intrepid
[00:06] <^hashbang^> brb
[00:06] <sathyrion> Anyone tried Savage 2?
[00:06] <dmsuperman> Scunizi: I can't even get X to start with intrepid on my desktop
[00:07] <martin_> hellow i got the script off nautilus 2.20.0 but I can compile :)
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, Is it possible to have 2 keyboards attatch to the same x server? I'm thinking 2 player frets on fire...is it possible?
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> sathyrion,  its a fun game.. but too hard for me. :)
[00:07] <martin_> and i have nautilus internals
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> !compile | martin_
[00:07] <martin_> pdf
[00:08] <Sindacious> hmm.. are there any encryption commands in bash? other then base64
[00:08] <carthik> o/
[00:09] <^hashbang^> ActionParsnip: lol hmm, I doubt that would work =)
[00:09] <steve-o> still no luck
[00:09] <^hashbang^> Sindacious: crypt?
[00:09] <martin_> yea!! I Read some :)
[00:10] <steve-o> i see screen shots on the internet of what its supposed to look like but cant find it
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> ^hashbang^: i think it'd take some jiggery pokery but i think the system would get both inputs from the kb and replicate them as one like multiple simultaneous keypresses
[00:10] <^hashbang^> Sindacious: sudo apt-get install mcrypt
[00:10] <hikenboot> hello all anyone know a way to flash bios in a system where the manufacture doesnt have a linux install for it? installer requires a gui
[00:10] <sathyrion> Sucky gamedevelopers who wont port to linux.. is money everything??
[00:11] <Sindacious> ^hashbang^, checking it out, thanks :)
[00:11] <^hashbang^> ActionParsnip: hmm, true...good luck with that =) write up a note on how to do it once you have it working =)
[00:11] <^hashbang^> Sindacious: np
[00:11] <Dmole> commands preceded by spaces do not appear in history...why?
[00:11] <Dmole> *CLI
[00:11] <^hashbang^> Dmole: example command
[00:12] <GeffIsLegend> hey everyone, would anyone know how to get the sound on my World of Warcraft working by any chance? i cant figure it out :[
[00:12] <^hashbang^> Dmole: all my commands are in history like ps aux | grep bla
[00:12] <steve-o> doesnt sound like most people care about newbies
[00:12] <Dmole> " mount /dev/sdc1 /media/USB" vs "mount /dev/sdc1 /media/U"
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> ^hashbang^: will do, I know how to do it for 1 system, 2 monitors, 2 mice, 2 keyboards, thats fun :)
[00:12] <^hashbang^> Dmole: paste.ubuntu.com the output from `history` command
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> Dmole,  they are shown here.. history has some options that dont show/repeate/identical commands also..however.. so ls 3 times wont get shown 3 times...
[00:13] <sathyrion> I learned all my "skills" on google.. I would recommend it :D
[00:13] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: put a space in front the see if it's in history
[00:13] <^hashbang^> Dr_Willis: doh! good point, forgot about that one
[00:13] <hikenboot> never mind i will emulate a bootable cd floppy image thanks
[00:13] <Dmole> Dr_Willis: nope it' not that
[00:13] <^hashbang^>  244  ps aux | grep u
[00:14] <^hashbang^> Dmole: works fine
[00:14] <vano> Just installed debian-server with tomcat (brand new installation), however the app server doesnt seem to be serving pages, even the examples which are already installed do not work. This is an untweaked installation. Any ideas?
[00:14] <^hashbang^> ps "space" aux "space" | "space" u
[00:14] <steve-o> does anyone know how to use network manager or not
[00:14] <^hashbang^> steve-o: what's up?
[00:14] <exodus_ms> steve-o, what are you trying to do?
[00:15] <steve-o> im trying to find and use the network manager gui
[00:15] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: try this :  "space" command then look in history
[00:15] <GeffIsLegend> anyone mind helping me make the sounds in WoW work?
[00:15] <unbuttered_toast> Could anyone tell me why the 'Microphone' channel on the 'USB camera (Alsa mixer)' device in whatever the Volume Control util is keeps muting itself?
[00:15] <^hashbang^> Dmole: eh? try what?
[00:15] <exodus_ms> steve-o, ok, are you trying to connect to a wifi network?
[00:15] <steve-o> yes
[00:16] <Ximal> I have an issue where I'm trying to install a game supported by wine but when I open the dvd disc after inserting it into the tray ... Ubuntu's disc browser only shows the installer(space)tome.mpq , even after asking it to show hidden files
[00:16] <unbuttered_toast> and why there seem to be redundant devices in the list...
[00:16] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: try putting a "space" then a command like "             mount x y"
[00:16] <exodus_ms> steve-o, so your unable to 'find' an available network, or you can 'see' one that is available but unable to connect?
[00:16] <Huufarted> wow...  just installed TrueCrypt...  easiest install evar!
[00:16] <Ximal> yet when i put it in the drive and used xp. windows... to view the disc i could see it... something I can do for it to show all files ? on a disc ?
[00:16] <martin_> hey boys i can pàste some
[00:16] <steve-o> i can find and connect but i want to use network manager
[00:17] <^hashbang^> Dmole: is the mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/media38  history 39               mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ 40  history
[00:17] <martin_> ubottu
[00:17] <gnutron> steve-o: try, /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
[00:17] <^hashbang^> Dmole: still works fine
[00:17] <bartek_> welcome, i have problem after installation of actual nvidia drivers from their webpahe 180.29 - faileed to load modul
[00:17] <exodus_ms> ! then ubottu
[00:17] <^hashbang^> steve-o: try sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[00:17] <Huufarted> Ximal, show all files in WIndows or in Ubuntu?
[00:17] <floatboat> can someone help me get ntop to compile properly? http://www.dpaste.com/119971 help please
[00:17] <martin_> Package compiz was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[00:17] <martin_> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `compiz.pc'
[00:17] <martin_> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[00:17] <martin_> No package 'compiz' found
[00:17] <martin_> /bin/sh: libtool: not found
[00:17] <martin_> make: *** [libbackground.la] Error 127
[00:17] <FloodBot1> martin_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: what version are you on?
[00:18] <Ximal> Huufarted:  i set it to show hidden files using the ubuntu browser
[00:18] <^hashbang^> Int
[00:18] <Ximal> the nautilus or whatever it uses when you go to /media/cdrom0
[00:18] <Huufarted> Use the terminal and see if the files show up in 'ls -la'
[00:18] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: I'm using 2.6.24-23-generic
[00:18] <GeffIsLegend> anyone mind helping me get my sounds work on WoW please?
[00:18] <Ximal> and even so it still will not show hidden files and doing wine /xampled/installer.exe returns file not found
[00:18] <Huufarted> Ximal, sorry I don't know enough yet especially about Nautilus.  Sorry
[00:19] <Ximal> thanks for trying
[00:19] <steve-o> i get command not found
[00:19] <Huufarted> Ximal, wait
[00:19] <^hashbang^> DMole: kerenl has nothing to do with the history command =). my kernel is 2.6.27-7-generic
[00:19] <Huufarted> Ximal, type this:  ./xampled/installer.exe
[00:19] <tcpt26> hi, i'm having some probs with grub, i already check ubuntu forum and web sites but i cant find any solutions,  someone?
[00:19] <bartek_> anybody - help with nvidia
[00:19] <Huufarted> nevermind, Ximal.  DOn't do that, I'm retarded.
[00:19] <^hashbang^> !nvidia | bartek
[00:19] <Ximal> Huufarted: that doesn't work bro... nice try
[00:19] <Ximal> lol
[00:19] <exodus_ms> !details | tcpsyn
[00:19] <exodus_ms> !details | tcpt26
[00:19] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: what do you think the deciding variable would be?
[00:20] <tcpt26> ok
[00:20] <^hashbang^> DMole: hmm.. bash
[00:20] <martin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117489/ Help
[00:20] <^hashbang^> DMole: I'm using GNU bash, version 3.2.39(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[00:20] <tcpt26> installed ubuntu 8.10 first then xp
[00:20] <GeffIsLegend> someone mind telling me how to get the sounds on WoW working please?
[00:20] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: how do I get that info
[00:20] <^hashbang^> !patience | GeffIsLegend
[00:21] <^hashbang^> Dmole: type `bash --version`
[00:21] <tcpt26> but xp was in sd1 and now i reinstalled vista in sd0 but update-grub dont find it
[00:21] <Ximal> anyone ?
[00:21] <^hashbang^> Ximal: what's your question?
[00:21] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: lol "    echo 'you cant see me'  "  is not in history
[00:21] <tcpt26> i already run boot_info_script and vista boot is ok
[00:21] <Sindacious> ^hashbang^, any idea how I could hash strings with that :x?
[00:21] <exodus_ms> martin_, your trying to install nautlilus?
[00:21] <martin_> yea
[00:22] <^hashbang^> Sindacious: php? perl? bash?
[00:22] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: 3.2.39(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
[00:22] <Sindacious> ^hashbang^, I mean wit mcrypt ;o
[00:22] <Sindacious> ^hashbang^, or can you ;x
[00:22] <exodus_ms> martin_, why, did you install with no gui
[00:22] <unbuttered_toast> Could anyone tell me where to find documentation for the audio stuff in Ubuntu? must be doing it wrong; google's all noise.
[00:22] <tcpt26> i also try to edit menu.lst and then update-grub but boot list dont change
[00:22] <martin_> i have nautilus 2.20.0
[00:22] <Titan8990> !audio | unbuttered_toast
[00:22] <martin_> new
[00:22] <exodus_ms> !info nautilus
[00:22] <^hashbang^> Sindacious: check out http://www.codingforums.com/archive/index.php/t-108610.html
[00:23] <martin_> :)
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> tcpt26,  you are doing 'sudo update-grub' ?
[00:23] <redvamp128> tcpt26:  you have to gksu or sudo the gedit - in order to edit the menu.lst
[00:23] <^hashbang^> !eyeshurt
[00:23] <sara_> alias opme {
[00:23] <sara_>   /.msg chanserv op $active $me
[00:23] <sara_> }
[00:23] <sara_> alias protectme {
[00:23] <sara_>   /.msg chanserv protect $active $me
[00:23] <FloodBot1> sara_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <sara_> }
[00:23] <tcpt26> of course
[00:23] <exodus_ms> martin_, should be in the repos, no need to make it
[00:23] <Huufarted> So does Nautilus work inside of GNOME or is it a replacement or what?  I'm not sure how they work together
[00:23] <^hashbang^> !flood
[00:23] <unbuttered_toast> thanks. it's actually just a usb mic i'm having trouble with. i'll see if i can figure it out.
[00:23] <^hashbang^> !flood | sara_
[00:24] <redvamp128> Huufarted: Nautilus is part of gnome-
[00:24] <martin_> no i read the manual i want compile by my script
[00:24] <Huufarted> redvamp128, is that the file manager in use by default?
[00:24] <tcpt26> here is the update.grub
[00:24] <floatboat> can someone help me get ntop to compile properly? http://www.dpaste.com/119971 help please
[00:24] <n8tuser> whoahh  Microsoft offers $250k bounty to whomever can get the "Conficker" or "Downadup" creator/author convicted..arrested
[00:24] <sara_> ^hashbang^, sorry
[00:24] <redvamp128> Huufarted:  yes but there is a way to change it if you wish
[00:24] <exodus_ms> martin_, well, have you tried installing the missing dependencies?
[00:24] <alltax> Howdy folks
[00:24] <^hashbang^> !ot | n8tuser
[00:24] <tcpt26> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub \n Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default \n Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst ... Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generi \n Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
[00:25] <CokeNCode> Howdy alltax
[00:25] <Huufarted> Redvamp, that's not necessary.  I wanted to because the screenshots I've seen do not yet match what I have in GNOME.
[00:25] <martin_> exodus_ms,  i dont see the compiler in the web page
[00:25] <^hashbang^> hiya alltax
[00:25] <tcpt26> then i manually edited the menu.lst with vista info ... but when grub is booting ... the windows option dont show
[00:25] <exodus_ms> martin_, I'm not sure what you mean by that, are you saying you don;t see a make file
[00:25] <redvamp128> Huufarted:  can you post a screenshot at www.imagebin.ca so I can see what you see
[00:26] <alltax> I have made a little scriptfile to run xfig in a enviroment that is more suited for me but how can I make it open a file by using gnome? the script looks like this "LANG=sv_SE.ISO-8859-1 xfig -but_per_row 4"
[00:26] <Huufarted> Redvamp128, that's not necessary.  The screenshots just show preferences changed a bit.  I can work through that no problem.
[00:26] <Huufarted> Redvamp, I just jumped the gun assuming I was using something other than Nautilus, that's all.
[00:27] <redvamp128> Huufarted:  something simple if you want to see path-- click the icon that looks like a pencil and paper changes the bar inside (most common thing people don't think looks like theirs)
[00:27] <martin_> exodus_ms,  u see gnome vfs in some there...
[00:28] <^hashbang^> alltax: try ##gnome they might be able to help
[00:28] <tcpt26> i also tried to run grub and root (hd0,2) (this  is where the /boot/grub/stage1 is) and setup (hd0) but nothing
[00:28] <redvamp128> Huufarted:  though depending on your theme that can also change Nautilus.
[00:28] <alltax> I saved the file in /usr/bin and configured nautilus to open .fig files with my script but what happens is that xfig opens empty
[00:28] <Huufarted> Redvamp128, I'm actually not half as retarded as I look lol.  I even administer a few Linux servers.  However, there's just a HUGE difference between my job that uses 100% command line on Red Hat to 80% graphical Ubuntu
[00:28] <Dmole> any one else have a magic CLI? if "<space> history | tail -n 1"  dose not print itself you to have a magic CLI.
[00:28] <Dmole> bbl
[00:29] <alltax> ^hashbang^: ok! I would gues it is a bash question maby
[00:29] <dmi3on> hi all i have ubuntu and vista i use vnc4server but cant find how can i transfer files, can any one help me pls
[00:29] <n8tuser> dmi3on -> use scp please
[00:29] <Huufarted> dmi3on, my advice is to not use the VNC file transfer and instead use FTP.  BUT barring that, can you just not find the option or do the files just not transfer?
[00:30] <exodus_ms> martin_, I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time understanding what you are talking about? You are trying to install nautilus, but you don't want to use the repositories even though the version available is the newer version your trying to 'make' at the moment
[00:30] <^hashbang^> alltax: ok
[00:30] <kingsley> Does version 8.04 include Korean language support through SCIM?
[00:30] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: do you  have something like this at the end of your menu.1st file http://paste.ubuntu.com/117491/
[00:31] <dmi3on> Huufarted, its like data base every day created new file i need to send to open most of then on one computeer
[00:31] <tcpt26> and i'm executing all the commands with sudo
[00:31] <n8tuser> dmi3on -> you need a script to auto send those securely
[00:31] <Huufarted> dmi3on, my suggestion is not to use vnc but to use ftp and transfer them that way
[00:31] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: yup
[00:32] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: check this out -> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/56461-grub-menu-lst-chainloader-help-needed.html
[00:32] <dmi3on> Huufarted, ok thxs very much \
[00:32] <Huufarted> I know it's not a huge amount of help, but overall it will be tons faster.
[00:33] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117492/
[00:33] <m1dn1ght> Can anyone point me in the direction of a good guide that will explain to me how to set up an account on my computer for someone to ssh into that will only allow them access to 1 specific directory (and it's subdirs) and nothing else?
[00:33] <rwparris2> is it possible to issue several commands to the terminal that execute after the previous one finishes?  like svn up;make ./configure;make install
[00:34] <Huufarted> rwparris, that should work fine
[00:34] <rwparris2> oh, ; does that?
[00:34] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: shouldn't it be root(hd0,1)?
[00:34] <rwparris2> neat :P thanks
[00:34] <kingsley> Would version 8.04 be a good choice for someone who has never used linux?
[00:35] <tcpt26> i'll try
[00:35] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: try running grub /dev/sda
[00:35] <Huufarted> rwparris2, the semicolon will seperate individual commands.  Another, slightly more ghetto way of doing it, would be to just copy the whole list of commands and paste them
[00:35] <^hashbang^> root (hd0,1)
[00:35] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: but when i had xp on sda2 the boot was (hd0,1)
[00:35] <Huufarted> and rwparris2 already left.  bah...
[00:36] <jtaji> kingsley: you are likely better off with 8.10
[00:36] <tcpt26> i think
[00:36] <redvamp128> kingsley:  yes though it is recommended to run it live first give it a try .
[00:36] <exodus_ms> kingsley, 8.04 is an LTS (long term support) other than that there is not much difference as far as learning Linux is concerned with the different distributions
[00:36] <Dmole> m1dn1ght: look up jails
[00:36] <martin_> exodus_ms,  and the make file want's install compiz fusion :S
[00:36] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: grub is installed on the mbr correct?
[00:36] <tcpt26> yup
[00:36] <afief> kingsley, rule of thumb with Linux: put the live CD in, if the drivers work, go on, if not, try another distro. repeat till you get close enough to "everything", then if you still want better support come to irc and forums
[00:36] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: ok and windows is installed on partition 1 of sda correct?
[00:36] <kingsley> jtaji: Can you elaborate on why you think 8.10 would be better for a linux newbie?
[00:36] <tcpt26> yes
[00:37] <redvamp128> kingsley:  That way you could if you don't like it not be stuck with the removal of it.
[00:37] <jtaji> kingsley: newer hardware support, bug fixes, etc.. why run an older version?
[00:37] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: ok then (hd0,0) is correct..
[00:37] <exodus_ms> martin_, ok, tell me exactly why your are trying to compile nautilus
[00:37] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: but even when i update my kernel, the boot didnt change, i had to remove the menu.lst and the update-grub
[00:37] <n8tuser> jtaji ->  far too many issues in 8.10, hang around here for a while and you'll notice
[00:37] <martin_> ./configure exodus_ms  make and make install
[00:37] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: and then update-grub
[00:38] <jtaji> n8tuser: 8.04 had issues for plenty too, and both work fine for most
[00:38] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: hmm
[00:38] <exodus_ms> martin_, no, why are you trying to compile instead of using the repos, are you looking for a more 'lightweight' file manager?
[00:38] <kingsley> jtaji: Thanks. I agree with your reasoning. You asked "why run an older version?". If I were to play devil's advocate, I might say that sometime newer software has more bugs.
[00:38] <martin_> yessssssssssssssssssssss
[00:38] <Huufarted> I use 8.10 and the only problem I've had was having to get and compile ath5k for my Atheros.
[00:39] <Huufarted> and that was a matter of downloading and typing a whole 5 commands
[00:39] <exodus_ms> !info thunar | martin_
[00:39] <redvamp128> jtaji:  For me I had issues with Nvidia Drivers and 8.10 as well as It took a lot of work to get the Webcam working- as well as had to downgrade the flash 10 to flash 9 in order to browse the web.
[00:39] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: so what happens when you run grub /dev/sda; root (hd0,0); setup (hd0); reboot
[00:39] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: nothing changes
[00:39] <n8tuser> Huufarted -> sounds are okay? common complaint here, so as X related issues
[00:39] <inertial> are there any tools for querying an nfs server, like the smbclient tool for samba?
[00:39] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: and the windows options dont shows
[00:40] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: and when you boot, can you pick a kernel option from the boot menu?
[00:40] <exodus_ms> martin_, sudo apt-get install thunar
[00:40] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: hmm
[00:40] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: yup
[00:40] <jtaji> kingsley: I don't find that true in the linux world really, I would try 8.10 first
[00:40] <n8tuser> inertial -> once mounted, you can use your common linux tools
[00:40] <Huufarted> n8tuser, no issues with sound.  Realtek audio card.  The only issue I had with sound was I had to learn to turn up ALSA for the outbound
[00:40] <jtaji> redvamp128: people have problems with every version, that's why this channel is always busy! ;)
[00:40] <martin_> atento estudio esto es CQ internacional
[00:40] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: what about replacing "Title" with "title"
[00:40] <m1dn1ght> Dmole: Thanks - will check that out
[00:40] <martin_> :)
[00:40] <exodus_ms> !es | martin_
[00:41] <redvamp128> jtaji:  though 8.04.2 runs better for me--
[00:41] <Huufarted> n8tuser, my sound was extremely low until I moved a single slider.  there it went, worked great.
[00:41] <Huufarted> I was very pleased.
[00:41] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: :P i dont even believe thats it
[00:41] <robert_zaccour> i need an icon for epiphany web browser. is there a link to what the icon is so i can use it?
[00:41] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: and for debuggin, comment out hiddenmenu
[00:41] <tcpt26> ok
[00:41] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: yea me either, but stranger things have happened on linux =)
[00:41] <exodus_ms> martin_, if you are looking for a 'lightweight' file manager type this in terminal    sudo apt-get install thunar
[00:41] <inertial> n8tuser: ah, but i cannot mount, because i don't know the share names
[00:41] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: grub/linux whatever =)
[00:42] <trygg> I'm having trouble getting GRUB to load into my windows hdd.
[00:42] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: ill give a try right now
[00:42] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: brb
[00:42] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: kk
[00:42] <trygg> It says system32\hal.dll is missing and that i should reinstall it
[00:42] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: I get the same issue on 2.6.27-11-generic (stuff missing from history if it starts with a space)
[00:42] <trygg> though i've just recently reformated
[00:42] <robert_zaccour> i need an icon for epiphany web browser. is there a link to what the icon is so i can use it?
[00:42] <^hashbang^> Dmole: eh? that's strange bro..
[00:42] <Huufarted> robert_zaccour, google it
[00:42] <robert_zaccour> i am right now
[00:42] <robert_zaccour> haven't found it yet
[00:42] <^hashbang^> trygg: hmm, that's not good
[00:43] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: not kernel not bash what else could it be?
[00:43] <trygg> ^hashbang^: it works if i put the windows disk to load first in bios though
[00:43] <trygg> so no problem with windows itself
[00:43] <Huufarted> robert_zaccour:  http://projects.gnome.org/epiphany
[00:43] <redvamp128> trygg:  can you pastebin your menu.lst as well as your sudo fdisk -l to the same pastebin and someone should be able to help you sort it out
[00:43] <robert_zaccour> thanks
[00:43] <trygg> redvamp128: I'm on it
[00:44]  * ^hashbang^ thinking about Dmoles history issue... banging head
[00:44] <redvamp128> !pastebin | trygg:
[00:44] <^hashbang^> Dmole: do you have any custom settings in your ~/.bashrc
[00:44] <Huufarted> robert_zaccour, try this:  http://swik.net/swikIcons/img-414-96x96.png
[00:44] <redvamp128> trygg:  with those someone should be able to help you get your xp into grub
[00:44] <geirha> Dmole: I haven't been following your problem, but have you tried creating a new user, and seen if it had the same symptoms?
[00:45] <robert_zaccour> thanks
[00:45] <kingsley> Can both 8.04 and 8.10 work as a so called "live CD"?
[00:45] <^hashbang^> gerirha: arrg, why didn't I think of that
[00:45] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: only color stuff
[00:45] <DarkKnight> i was trying to back up...and when i checked System > Administration..i dont have the backup option
[00:45] <Huufarted> kingsley, they can.
[00:46] <Dmole> geirha: tried it on 3 different users 2 boxes...
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> kingsley,  'desktop cd ' = 'live cd'
[00:46] <Sarai> Hi, I'm trying to install the latest version of GNOME-do, but I'm a little bit lost
[00:46] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: and nothing on one of the users
[00:46] <^hashbang^> Dmole: pastebin env > /tmp/env.out
[00:46] <Sarai> I installed A version using aptitude
[00:46] <Sarai> but I don't think it's the newest, I can't find the "docky theme"
[00:47] <trygg> http://pastebin.com/m3ddaea2c
[00:47] <exodus_ms> ^hashbang^, maybe changing these settings? I don't know?  char * history_word_delimiters   or    char * history_no_expand_chars
[00:47] <DarkKnight> i was trying to back up...and when i checked System > Administration..i dont have the backup option
[00:47] <trygg> someone who can find anything wrong with that?
[00:47] <^hashbang^> exodus_ms: hmm, good point...
[00:48] <blizzle> Sarai, You need gnome-do 0.8 from ppa I think..
[00:48] <redvamp128> change root for the windows to rootnoverify trygg
[00:48] <trygg> redvamp128: will try
[00:48] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: its working tks a lot ... i dont know why i put Title instead of title
[00:48] <redvamp128> trygg:  that is the first thing I noticed was wrong
[00:48] <redvamp128> trygg:  let me look at it some more
[00:48] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: sweet. typos are a killer
[00:48] <Sarai> blizzle: I've found some packages that I think are the right ones, but I'm a n00b. The only kinds of packages I know how to install are .deb s
[00:49] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: if you commented out the hiddenmenu, you can uncomment it now, if not, nvm
[00:49] <blizzle> Sarai, If you have a deb, right click in your file manager and open with Gdeb Installer.
[00:49] <trygg> I've just edited the default, changed (what mount says) to my drive
[00:49] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: its ok, i had it this way
[00:49] <Sarai> blizzle:  I don't have a deb
[00:49] <^hashbang^> tcpt26: cool....
[00:49] <tcpt26> ^hashbang^: tks again
[00:49] <^hashbang^> np
[00:49] <blizzle> Sarai, Google for gnome-do repository ppa
[00:49] <trygg> redvamp128: rootnoverify (hd2,0) you mean?
[00:49] <^hashbang^> !ppa
[00:49] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117496/
[00:49] <LaGeek> !compiz
[00:50] <redvamp128> yes trygg:
[00:50] <blizzle> Sarai, You'll need to add the gnome-do ppa repository to your sources list, and then the gpg key. Use Synaptic.
[00:50] <Sarai> blizzle:  <shame>I don't know how to do that...</shame>
[00:50] <blizzle> Sarai, Google is your friend.
[00:51] <redvamp128> Sarai:  Check out this page at Ubuntu Unleashed -- it tells you what you need to install it - Ubuntu Unleashed <http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/>
[00:51] <^hashbang^> Dmole: try `unset $HISTCONTROL`
[00:51] <^hashbang^> Dmole: with that setting set, I can't see my %>               ps -ef | grep u
[00:51] <gmspence> can anyone help me with routing traffic...have my ubuntu box set up as a pptp server.  clients can successfully authenticate to the server, i can run a remote x session from my mac however i cannot access the internet over the vpn connection - i want to route all traffic including web over the connection.  i have enabled net.ipv4.ip_forward to 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf but it still isn't working.  really can't think of anythi
[00:51] <gmspence> ng else.  anyone able to help please? it's driving me insane!
[00:51] <blizzle> Sarai, Also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[00:52] <Sarai> redvamp128:  Hmm, I followed those instructions exactly and I don't think I got the most recent build. I'll have to try the repositories method
[00:52] <trygg> redvamp128: nothing else before i reboot and try?
[00:52] <blizzle> Sarai, Repository version worked fine for me.
[00:53] <geirha> Dmole, ^hashbang^: Make that: unset HISTCONTROL   ... without the $
[00:53] <exodus_ms> Sadok, also --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781352
[00:53] <redvamp128> trygg:  still looking at your info
[00:53] <alpha4> How share my folder to a xp network
[00:53] <trygg> /dev/sdc1 is (hd2,0) in grub right?
[00:53] <^hashbang^> geirha: lol aye...
[00:53] <Sarai> blizzle: thanks, I'll try that. brb
[00:53] <exodus_ms> Sarai, , also --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781352
[00:53] <Dmole> geirha: thanks
[00:53] <^hashbang^> he new what I ment.. lol
[00:53]  * ^hashbang^ seeing stars
[00:54] <Dmole> ^hashbang^: that did work
[00:54] <n8tuser> ^hashbang^ -> you are off topic bring that to another channel
[00:54] <^hashbang^> Dmole: woot, another one bytes the dust...
[00:54] <geirha> Dmole: Now you just have to figure out where that variable gets set :)
[00:54] <gmmspence>  can anyone help me with routing traffic...have my ubuntu box set up as a pptp server.  clients can successfully authenticate to the server, i can run a remote x session from my mac however i cannot access the internet over the vpn connection - i want to route all traffic including web over the connection.  i have enabled net.ipv4.ip_forward to 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf but it still isn't working.  really can't think of anyt
[00:54] <gmmspence> hi
 ng else.  anyone able to help please? it's driving me insane!
[00:55] <^hashbang^> n8tuser: eh?
[00:55] <redvamp128> trygg:  see pm
[00:55] <n8tuser> ^hashbang^ -> all your irrelevant comments, bring it to offtopic channel
[00:55] <^hashbang^> will, please keep to yourself... i'm helping people.. ty
[00:56] <tritium> ^hashbang^: stay on topic
[00:56] <Dmole> geirha: thanks ... it was set to ignoreboth .... whatever that is
[00:57] <tritium> !pm | ^hashbang^ this too:
[00:57] <akio> so does anyone in here know when we are going to get the shiny new kernel mode switching?
[00:57] <taz_> hello..... please help me an i have problem with java.. i try get in games..www.pogo.com
[00:58] <LaGeek> does ubuntu works for touch screens
[00:58] <akio> yes LaGeek
[00:58] <LaGeek> akio every version or there is a touch version
[00:58] <judget> I think i broke my libtool on my system
[00:58] <geirha> Dmole: Yes, but some file that bash reads when it starts is setting that value, so you'll need to find that file and remove the line
[00:58] <tritium> akio: 9.10, likely.  Kernel 2.6.29 won't be in 9.04
[00:58] <n8tuser> gmmspence -> umm hard to follow the issue, your client can establish a connection to your server and run an X ?
[00:59] <judget> anyone have any experience with that
[00:59] <taz_> anyone can help ??
[00:59] <geirha> Dmole: If you want it gone permanently that is
[00:59] <akio> LaGeek: search for wacom xorg driver
[00:59] <LaGeek> judget just go to synaptic and reinstall it
[00:59] <judget> ok thanks i will try that
[00:59] <codename> Does anyone know if you install the 180.29 drivers from NVIDIA's website, and you do a dist-upgrade to Jaunty when it comes out, does it have any kernel conflicts?
[01:00] <fearful> taz_ Whats the problem
[01:00] <gmmspence> n8tuser - yeah i can successfully authenticate a connection - however soon as i fire up a web browser to look at a site the connection fails.  i
[01:00] <akio> tritium: I was just hoping, I mean I should get some bells/whistles for all the Alpha breakage I live with.
[01:00] <LaGeek> codename ask #ubuntu-1
[01:00] <cjae> cdrom wont give cd back after k3b crash
[01:00] <n8tuser> gmmspence -> most likely you dont have a route to the correct gateway....i have to be off for a few, ill pick up the convo later
[01:01] <gmmspence> n8tuser: basically i can do anything with the ubuntu box.... access webmin etc just can't get onto the external network
[01:01] <cjae> eject /dev/cdrom -> not mounted
[01:01] <trygg> redvamp128: same error
[01:01] <gmmspence> ok cool thanks n8tuser
[01:01] <taz_> fearful:  i did many thing try to fix but seem not work.. u know www.pogo.com
[01:01] <taz_>  it said need java
[01:01] <fearful> taz_ Are you running firefox?
[01:02] <taz_> yes
[01:02] <fearful> cjae: Try this sudo umount /dev/cdrom0
[01:02] <fearful> cjae: sudo eject /dev/cdrom0
[01:02] <Sarai> blizzle: seems to be working!
[01:02] <robert_zaccour> that epiphany icon can't be put in the panel
[01:02] <taz_> fearful: with terminal ?
[01:02] <LaGeek> taz_ witch java you have 5??
[01:02] <maximarshall> \quit
[01:02] <fearful> taz_ Not you, cjae one sec
[01:02] <Sarai> One more question, then. Has anyone else found that the new open office is kind of buggy?
[01:02] <ksherdy> join
[01:03] <taz_> fearful:  ok im wait for u
[01:03] <arch3angel> who has experience with cell wireless cards in intrepid - i have a um175 that i can not get to work
[01:03] <LaGeek> Sarai i lost the font window :D i cant seem to bring it back :D does this help
[01:03] <LaGeek> :D
[01:03] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: what's your default route?
[01:03] <gmmspence> hashbang...how do i find that out? from pptpd.conf?
[01:03] <fearful> taz_ Did you install the java plugin for firefox?
[01:04] <taz_> yes
[01:04] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: once your client is connected to the pptp server do a netstat -rn
[01:04] <taz_> how i can fix ??
[01:04] <LaGeek> taz_ your ubuntu is??
[01:04] <arch3angel> i am out to dry if this dont work
[01:04] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: my bad, route -rn
[01:04] <unbuttered_toast> i've been in the documentation, and i can't figure this microphone out. volume control keeps disabling the recording option, and there seems to be redundant devices or something. anyone know audio?
[01:04] <Sarai> LaGeek: I suppose. It doesn't seem to get along with compiz, always crashing my window manager. I think I liked the old one better
[01:04] <arch3angel> anyone get this working
[01:04] <taz_> yes ubuntu
[01:04] <LaGeek> 8.10 taz_??
[01:04] <gmmspence> hashbang on the client or server?
[01:04] <taz_> yes 8.10
[01:04] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: well the client, being that's the one that can't get to the internet correct?
[01:05] <arch3angel> i have 8.10 with a pantech um175 from alltel same as verizon
[01:05] <LaGeek> !alsa
[01:05] <cjae> fearful: first one said not mounted second command froze
[01:05] <foolz> I am confused - if I want to change the looks of folders and other icons in ubuntu, and I am using the emerald window decorator with compiz-fusion, should I be looking for some kind of emerald theme, or am I suppose to get a metacity theme to change that stuff?
[01:05] <cjae> fearful: kill k3b?
[01:05] <LaGeek> !alsa | unbuttered_toast
[01:05] <unbuttered_toast> i'm not having trouble with audio in general. just getting this microphone working.
[01:05] <gmmspence> hashbang - on a mac - what's the bsd command?
[01:05] <fearful> cjae: Yes and if it doesn't work give me your output for sudo fdisk -l
[01:06] <taz_> frearful: where i can find java plugin  for firefox ??
[01:06] <geirha> foolz: emerald uses emerald themes, the default window decorator for compiz in ubuntu uses metacity themes
[01:06] <cjae> fearful: sudo kill -9 k3b?
[01:06] <fearful> cjae: sudo killall k3b
[01:06] <danopia> hey, what's the minimum amoutn of RAM that ubuntu server will install/work under?
[01:06] <Sarai> foolz: open the emerald theme manager
[01:06] <unbuttered_toast> also, the 8.10 volume control doesn't have a file menu. makes it a bit less easy to follow the documentation in places.
[01:07] <foolz> so emerald themes will also change the appearance of file folders and other icons (assuming that is part of the custom theme) ?
[01:07] <fearful> taz_ type sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:07] <Sarai> foolz: System>preferences
[01:07] <cjae> fearful: no process killed
[01:07] <taz_> frearful: how ?
[01:07] <Sarai> foolz: I think you have to do that through GNOME
[01:07] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: netstat -nr?
[01:07] <gmmspence> hashbang - i PM'd u
[01:07] <fearful> taz_: On the terminal type sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:08] <fearful> cjae: Result for sudo fdisk -l?
[01:08] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: doh!, can you paste.ubuntu.com that output please
[01:08] <taz_> frearful: ok standy by ok
[01:08] <fearful> taz_ I'll be here
[01:08] <geirha> foolz: No, emerald themes and metacity themes only decorate the titlebars and borders. You need an icon theme to change the icons
[01:08] <gmmspence> hashbang - lol how u mean?
[01:08] <unbuttered_toast> i can get the mic on the soundcard working, but i'm fiddling with this computer for grandparents, and they've got a usb microphone.
[01:08] <^hashbang^> !paste gmmspence
[01:08] <^hashbang^> !paste | gmmspence
[01:08] <Sarai> foolz: try gnome-look ;)
[01:09] <danopia> hey, what's the minimum amoutn of RAM that ubuntu server will install/work under? anyone know?
[01:09] <gmmspence> apologies
[01:09] <taz_> ok it said done
[01:09] <taz_> to fearful
[01:09] <n8tuser> danopia -> 256Meg is ample
[01:09] <gmmspence> hashbang http://paste.ubuntu.com/117503/
[01:09] <KDE4000> danopia: i think 64 is what is listed under minimal specs
[01:09] <danopia> n8tuser, would it workd under 128 MB?
[01:09] <fearful> taz_ now http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1 and check if that works when verify version
[01:09] <gmmspence> thanks ubottu. everyday is a schoolday!
[01:09] <foolz> sarai, yeah... I'm perusing that site... it's just very confusing with all these different theme types, and window managers and window decorators and this and that, hehe
[01:09] <LaGeek> foolz try ubuntu ultimate edition or download the deb file from gnome look its 400MB but its f*** good
[01:09] <cjae> fearful: did you get it
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> ive had ubuntu run on a Pent 1 - 100mhz 128mb laptop. :)
[01:10] <n8tuser> danopia -> id try it
[01:10] <KDE4000> danopia: that depends what you are looking to do, but for most people it should
[01:10] <foolz> geirha, ah, thanks
[01:10] <danopia> KDE4000, ok... arch failed becuase it loaded everything into RAM and quickly died
[01:10] <fearful> cjae yes.
[01:10] <Sarai> foolz: I'm pmming u, k?
[01:10] <taz_> fearful: ok standy by ok
[01:10] <foolz> sarai, sure
[01:10] <Sarai> this is like the one thing i really get
[01:10] <danopia> KDE4000, and what's the lowest recomeanded CPU speed?
[01:10] <cjae> fearful: is that the dumb way to do it?
[01:10] <foolz> haha, okay :)
[01:10] <perdidopunk> anyone here know anything about dri2?
[01:10] <fearful> cjae: type sudo top and look for anything thats k3b related
[01:10] <tritium> LaGeek: we don't support Ubuntu Ultimate Edition here.  Please don't recommend it.
[01:10] <KDE4000> danopia: well 400mhz is ok
[01:10] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: hmm ok so your mac's local network is the same as the pptp servers network which won't work...
[01:10] <fearful> cjae: Dumb way? No I'm checking whats mounted on your system
[01:10] <danopia> KDE4000, it's 233 MHz
[01:10] <taz_> fearful: it said Verifying Java Version
[01:10] <taz_> Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
[01:11] <danopia> KDE4000, shold i not even try isntalling? :P
[01:11] <Titan8990> does anyone know of a way to log on to WEP via CLI w/ a passphrase?
[01:11] <LaGeek> tritium sorry
[01:11] <fearful> ok
[01:11] <cjae> fearful: no I mean pm and paste
[01:11] <gmmspence> ok but when i try the connection over my 3g iphone still same result....
[01:11] <KDE4000> danopia: you can try, but you may be waiting a long time for it to install
[01:11] <KDE4000> :p
[01:11] <fearful> cjae: Now its fine
[01:11] <madmike> Just switched to ubuntu from gentoo.  anyone tell me how to change the mount points for a hard drive?  I changed it to a folder in /mnt using the (right click>properties) and now it says it can't have "/" in the mount point, and it won't mount automatically
[01:11] <fearful> taz_: Open a terminal and type java -version
[01:11] <cjae> syockit: whats up
[01:11] <tritium> Titan8990: iwconfig to set the wireless parameters.  ifconfig to configure the interface like any other
[01:11] <unbuttered_toast> Titan8990: thinking you can specify WEP keys with iwconfig
[01:11] <taz_> frearful: ok stand by
[01:12] <danopia> KDE4000, normal ubuntu failed (not even boot), and arch booted to prompt but ran out of RAM installing
[01:12] <bastid_raZor> madmike; edit your /etc/fstab file
[01:12] <n8tuser> Titan8990 ->  iwconfig eth0 key 0123-4567-89    man iwconfig
[01:12] <danopia> KDE4000, i guess this wouldn't work as a good file server then :P
[01:12] <syockit> cjae: umm, nothing much. it turned out that your bug is already a known one
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> madmike,  you mean the entries in /etc/fstab ?  or are you still in the installer? that right click stuff.. is proberly not what you want to play with.
 Sadok, also --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781352 <<-- wt?
[01:12] <Titan8990> tritium, unbuttered_toast the iwconfig man page says that it doesn't support passphrases....
[01:12] <morph> hello
[01:12] <syockit> cjae: I got it removed by fixing some post installation script
[01:12] <Titan8990> n8tuser, that is with the key, not the passphrase, but thanks anyways
[01:12] <exodus_ms> Korfox, sorry, it was for Sarai
[01:12] <cjae> syockit: ok thanks
[01:12] <KDE4000> danopia: normal ubuntu uses a GUI, that needs lots of memory
[01:12] <Korfox> ok
[01:12] <taz_> fearful:  what it said..... java version "1.6.0_0"
[01:12] <taz_> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6.1) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[01:12] <taz_> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
[01:12] <gmmspence> hashbang - i am going to PM you some details.  i have created a user in chap-secrets - if i give u the u/name and password could you try?
[01:12] <morph> i need to create operations in shell
[01:12] <n8tuser> Titan8990 -> what passphrase?
[01:12] <Sarai> what was for me?
[01:12] <cjae> fearful: don't see anything
[01:12] <syockit> cjae: and since it was from medibuntu, the bug report was also on medibuntu's launchpad
[01:13] <madmike> ok, I didn't know if it edited the fstab or what, I didn't even think to check there.  I'll just set it there.  Thanks guys
[01:13] <cphillips> is there an option in mplayer to affect quality such as -brightness , but -quality (which does not work btw)
[01:13] <exodus_ms> Sadok, also --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781352
[01:13] <tritium> Titan8990: no, it does
[01:13] <danopia> KDE4000, i am aware
[01:13] <Titan8990> n8tuser, the WEP passphrase
[01:13] <exodus_ms> dang it, did it again
[01:13] <fearful> taz_: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.10/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[01:13] <cjae> syockit: ok
[01:13] <Titan8990> tritium, the key section of the iwconfig man page says otherwise
[01:13] <KDE4000> danopia: ubuntu server shouldent have those kind of problems
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> cphillips,  mplayer has so many command line options.. its scary.. check the docs/homepage perhaps? i dont know of the right one off hand.. but its got a staggering amount of features.
[01:13] <KDE4000> danopia: the install for ubuntu server is text based
[01:13] <taz_> fearful : into termianl ??
[01:13] <n8tuser> Titan8990 -> not supported for now
[01:13] <Korfox> o.o
[01:13] <morph> someone can help me?
[01:13] <danopia> KDE4000, k, i'll try installing, but how well would it perform? would it be usable?
[01:14] <Korfox> hl on sadok «°.°»
[01:14] <cphillips> Dr_Willis, i have been looking but havent found anything
[01:14] <fearful> taz_: Yes
[01:14] <Titan8990> n8tuser, what do you mean for now?
[01:14] <tritium> Titan8990: iwconfig <interface> key <encryption key>
[01:14] <exodus_ms> Korfox, tab completion is kicking my butt tonight, apologies :)
[01:14] <taz_> fearful: stand by
[01:14] <KDE4000> danopia: it will be slow for installing, but after that it shouldent be so bad
[01:14] <n8tuser> Titan not supported at the moment, perhaps future versions?
[01:14] <cjae> fearful: ?
[01:14] <cjae> brb
[01:14] <Korfox> exodus_ms: my nick already was Korfox -> how did your client complete Sadok ??
[01:14] <fearful> cjae: One sec
[01:15] <danopia> KDE4000, k
[01:15] <Titan8990> tritium, ou can also
[01:15] <Titan8990>               enter the key as  an  ASCII  string  by  using  the  s:  prefix.
[01:15] <Titan8990>               Passphrase is currently not supported.
[01:15] <fearful> cjae: type sudo eject /media/cdrom0
[01:15] <exodus_ms> Korfox, did you /msg nickserv ghost Sadok ??
[01:15] <gmmspence> hashbang - PM'd u the details
[01:15] <Korfox> noch i did /nick Korfox
[01:15] <Korfox> ^^
[01:15] <Korfox> -ch
[01:15] <madmike> Dr_Willis  I checked fstab and there's no entries for any of my drives in there yet, just proc and boot and such
[01:16] <Titan8990> n8tuser, alright, what method can I use for logging on to a WEP encrypted network, in which I only have access to the passphrase? injection is possible but not an option....
[01:16] <taz_> fearful:  nothing happened
[01:16] <fearful> korfox: /msg Nickserv register korfox <password> <email>
[01:16] <Korfox> my nick is registered
[01:16] <Korfox> -NickServ- You are now identified for Korfox.
[01:16] <bastid_raZor> madmike; if you want them to be mounted on boot then adding them their would be the way to accomplish this.
[01:16] <exodus_ms> Korfox, if you registered that nick 'Sadok' you can ghost it (kill it) otherwise it will stay connected for some time
[01:16] <madmike> Dr_Willis  Alright I'll just do that then.  Thanks man
[01:16] <n8tuser> Titan8990 -> i dont know yet, let me think about that
[01:17] <Titan8990> n8tuser, i suppose I can compile a GUI tool if I have to, but I would assume that any GUI tool is more or less a front-end for a CLI tool
[01:17] <flashkidd> ls
[01:17] <fearful> taz_: restart xserver press ctrl + alt + backspace and come back here maybe that will help.
[01:17] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: on your mac, can you ping 192.168.1.199
[01:17] <madmike> bastid_raZor  Thanks for the help too
[01:17] <Korfox> exodus_ms, this was not my problem - i just was nicked as Sadok becaouse i had a disconnect - usually i'm Korfox... - but after i did /nick Korfox you wrote sth. with Sadok, .... - nick completion wouldn't work like this
[01:17] <taz_> ok
[01:17] <n8tuser> Titan8990 -> correct, front end for the cli
[01:17] <bastid_raZor> madmike; good luck.
[01:17] <benjamin_1> I need help with xubuntu ethernet connection from ISP ptd.net
[01:18] <gmmspence> hashbang - when connected over vpn yes
[01:18] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: ok 1 sec
[01:18] <Korfox> but now i'll have some sleep - good night, good fight
[01:19] <exodus_ms> Korfox, don't know
[01:19] <fearful> cjae: its cdrom0
[01:19] <fearful> cjae: not just cdrom
[01:20] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: tryin to ping 64.233.187.104 from your mac
[01:20] <gmmspence> hashbang: yup can ping that ok
[01:21] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: ok so you can access google, it looks as though you are able to get to the internet, just no name resolution..
[01:21] <taz_> frearful: im back it still not work.. it said Java Not Found or Not Working
[01:21] <gmmspence> hashbang...ohhhhhhhh
[01:21] <MrSmurfing> Hello
[01:21] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: try adding your isp's DNS servers to your mac
[01:22] <ari_stress> good morning all :)
[01:22] <taz_> fearful: im back it still not work.. it said java not found or not working
[01:23] <Titan8990> Can anyone confirm that it is possible to log in to a WEP network using passphrase in linux?
[01:23] <benjamin_1> I need help with xubuntu ethernet connection from ISP ptd.net
[01:23] <gmmspence> hashbang - ok i can try that...however i tend to jump about the country a lot and say for example i'm in a hotel and on their wifi that wouldn't work would it?
[01:23] <fearful> taz_: Ok lets re-install, type sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[01:23] <Titan8990> fearful, IMO if you are reinstalling in an attempt to fix problems you should use --purge
[01:23] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: well, why would you need to pptp into your server to use the internet?
[01:23] <taz_> fearful: ok
[01:24] <gmmspence> hashbang - just because i don't like them nosing about what i'm doing
[01:24] <fearful> titan8990: very true.
[01:24] <djnel> So new Linux User, NO experience on Linux, nuked windows entirely 2 days ago and installed Ubuntu. LOVING it, wish I had done this earlier :) My pc's brains are now spent doing what its told instead of just trying to cope with the OS
[01:24] <gmmspence> hashbang - would bit torrent traffic also be able to go over the vpn?
[01:24] <MrSmurfing> I'm having trouble with my screen... it's an LG60 1080p TV. When I set xorg.conf to use 1920x1080 it doesn't work, but when I boot in a lower res then I can change it to 1920x1080 using the NVIDIA X server settings.
[01:24] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> what have you done to troubleshoot?
[01:25] <fearful> taz_: sudo apt-get purge
[01:25] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: if dns is working, I don't see why not
[01:25] <fearful> instead of remove
[01:25] <tritium> MrSmurfing: are you using nvidia-glx driver?
[01:25] <taz_> frearful: which one yes or no ??
[01:25] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: Too much to remember. I'm looking to start new! haha
[01:25] <fearful> yes
[01:25] <MrSmurfing> tritium: how do I tell? I have "Load   "glx" in my modules section
[01:25] <taz_> fearful: ok
[01:25] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> no point then for me to assist you, you will not remember and dish out what we will advise you
[01:26] <tritium> MrSmurfing: it would list "nvidia" as the Driver in the "Device" section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <MrSmurfing> yes, it does
[01:26] <tritium> MrSmurfing: one of nvidia's options is: Option         "TVStandard" "HD1080p"
[01:26] <taz_> fearful: done with yes,,, so next is sudoapt- get urge ??
[01:26] <MrSmurfing> tritium: I will try adding that and see what happens.
[01:27] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: I'm very confused.  I can give you any information you need with a simple "insert this into terminal" and I printed out ipconfig /all in cmd on windows side
[01:27] <fearful> taz_: did you just do sudo apt-get purge or sudo apt-get purge sun-java6-jre
[01:27] <tritium> MrSmurfing: for more info, read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-177/README.txt.gz
[01:28] <taz_> u said  re install.. sudo apt - get remove sun - java6 - jre sun java6 plugin
[01:28] <fearful> taz_: yea type that again but instead of remove purge
[01:28] <pm> Are you guys by chance talking about upgrading to the latest Java?
[01:28] <taz_> already
[01:28] <fearful> taz_: so it completley removes absolutely everything
[01:28] <gmmspence> hashbang - i entered in a public dns which should work anywhere yeah? well ur the chihuahua's cahoonas because it worked!
[01:28] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> tell us what you have .. your network layout? wht is connected to what?
[01:29] <taz_> fearful: now what next for install?
[01:29] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: cool..
[01:29] <fearful> taz_: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[01:29] <fearful> taz_ wait
[01:29] <taz_> fearful: ok stand by
[01:29] <^hashbang^> gmmspence: I would do more reading up on poptop server and configs... I'm sure there is a way to make DNS happen on the client end without editing the client by hand
[01:30] <benjamin_1> n8tuser:  Ethernet connected from a multi tenant router, ISP ptd.net, Under Windows side, I have to insert a username and password in to get connected.  Do you need anymore information?
[01:30] <MrSmurfing> tritium: Great, thanks - I just copied that to my desktop.. I'm rebooting now to see what happens.
[01:30] <madmike> how do i get libdvdcss to play dvd's?
[01:30] <fearful> taz: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[01:30] <gmmspence> hashbang i will do - was wanting to set up open vpn but it doesn't work with iphone (yet)
[01:30] <^hashbang^> madmike: try using mplayer or xine, or totem
[01:30] <taz_> fearful:   done
[01:31] <CokeNCode> hey, guys, what was the name of the anti virs software suggested earlier again ?
[01:31] <CokeNCode> :$
[01:31] <^hashbang^> ClamAV
[01:31] <fearful> taz_: done installing?
[01:31] <taz_> yes
[01:31] <^hashbang^> http://www.clamav.net/
[01:31] <CokeNCode> thanks ^hashbang^
[01:31] <^hashbang^> np
[01:31] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> username and password? to get to use your router?
[01:31] <theUg> Hi. Anybody knows of good solution to Network Manager keyring password for auto-login users?
[01:32] <benjamin_1> yes.  Its an apartment complex internet is supplied to each building and each tenent is given a username and password to login
[01:32] <pm> Can someone help me with installing the latest Java into Intrepid?  I've followed the instructions at Java.com to the letter but my system doesn't see it nor does Firefox.
[01:32] <ngamber> anyone familiar with the recent issue with 2.6.27 kernels and requiring all_generic_ide in grub in order to boot?
[01:32] <madmike> <^hashbang^   ctotem and xine tell me i need libdvdcss and kmplayer gives me an error
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> pm,  i normallly just install the java from the repos.. and it works.. ive never had to go to java.com
[01:33] <unop> ^hashbang^, you can use DHCP to push DNS servers to the client - otherwise make changes to your DNS server configuration (which the clients use)
[01:33] <^hashbang^> madmike: hmm not sure sorry
[01:33] <fearful> taz_ tell me when its done
[01:33] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> okay, do you know what handshake protocol it uses to get this authentication? PAP chap? ?
[01:33] <unop> theUg, i believe the only solution at this time is to not use a passphrase for the default keyring
[01:33] <Schuenemann> pm use apt to install it. it sun-java-jre or something like that
[01:33] <madmike> ^hashbang^  np thanks though
[01:33] <^hashbang^> unop: well his pptp server is handing out IP's, and if he doesn't have DHCP relay setup, that would explain why the client isn't getting DNS
[01:33] <bastid_raZor> !medibuntu > madmike :: this will get things working for you.
[01:33] <benjamin_1> no, but if you informed me how to recieve this information I would be more than glad to find out
[01:34] <taz_> fearful:
[01:34] <taz_> The page you requested could not be found.
[01:34] <Schuenemann> for firefox, you have to create a link
[01:34] <n8tuser> !who | benjamin_1
[01:34] <fearful> schuenemann: sun-java6-jre
[01:34] <fearful> taz_: yes
[01:34] <Light121> Anybody available to help me with installation issues?
[01:34] <theUg> unop: How do I change that? I was messing with gdm as per wtite-ups, but couldn’t make it work
[01:34] <fearful> !justask | Light121
[01:34] <unop> theUg,  use the gnome-keyring-manager
[01:34] <pm> Thanks for the replies but the Java in the repos isn't the latest versions.  :\
[01:34] <exodus_ms> pm, but it works!
[01:35] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: sorry about that...thought i put your name in front
[01:35] <Light121> Sorry about that.
[01:35] <benjamin_1> ubotu: sorry
[01:35] <Light121> ._. I cannot install Ubuntu 8.10 in MS Virtual PC. I have tried the following: "On the Install Ubuntu screen, where you have the F1-F6 prompts at the bottom, hit F4 and then select “Safe Graphics Mode”.  Then hit F6, and you’ll see the command line for the install.  Delete quiet splash and add vga=791 noreplace-paravirt at the end.  Then follow the normal install procedure." I followed...
[01:35] <Light121> ...install procedure and it always ends with "squashfs: version 3.3 (2007/10/31) Phillip Lougher"
[01:35] <FloodBot1> Light121: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:35] <fearful> light121: no problem
[01:35] <lyc2109> ?
[01:35] <theUg> unop: through terminal, or is there GUI? I have seahorse installed
[01:35] <FireVai> lil off topic, but i have a 200 gig storage drive i just cant get mounted or to boot or anything
[01:35] <FireVai> when i try to put a new partition on it.. its only 29gigs
[01:36] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> try  sudo pppoe    (am assuming it is installed on your system)
[01:36] <FireVai> i'm trying to whipe the whole drive, and fornat it to ext2
[01:36] <_hc> hey all, I am currently struggling to get my trackpad working fully with Intrepid on a MacBook Pro 3rd gen
[01:36] <unop> theUg, it's a GUI app - i don't really remember how to access it through the menu as i don't run gnome .. configuring seahorse would also do (i believe)
[01:36] <fearful> taz_ did it work?
[01:36] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> try   sudo pppoeconf    (am assuming it is installed on your system)
[01:36] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: one second
[01:36] <taz_> fearful: it said the page you requested could notbe found
[01:36] <_hc> anyone know the details of this?  I have followed a howto with no luck.  I am very linux savvy, but this one eludes me
[01:36] <taz_> fearful: not work
[01:36] <fearful> taz_: well if it does not find the page its not because of the java plugin.
[01:37] <ngamber> anyone know anything about the recent 2.6.227 kernels going into busybox on boot while using SATA?
[01:37] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> btw, one tenant can have multiple logins? or only allowed one?
[01:37] <Light121> http://pastebin.com/m7946e872 I really need to learn to read rules first.
[01:37] <taz_> fearful: where i can download ???
[01:37] <pm> My Java app crashes Firefox and Opera when  it launches.  The FAQ for the app suggests updating Java.  I've just had no luck using Sun's instructions.
[01:37] <lyc2109> asl
[01:37] <fearful> taz_: you'll have to excuse me I have dinner, I will get back as soon as I'm done :S
[01:37] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: only allowed one
[01:38] <taz_> fearful: that allright
[01:38] <theUg> unop: thanks, and one last Q: what words should I look for in the manager? I’m not familiar with all that keyring mumbo, and sure I fully understand what’s going on (I read the man, though. :))
[01:39] <danopia> ACPI: BIOS age (1998) fails cutoff (2000)
[01:39] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> am guessing your ISP provides a pppoe connectivity for you.. here is a guide  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:39] <danopia> lol
[01:39] <_hc> anyone ever debugged hal .fdi file configurations?
[01:40] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: All devices found I found 3 ethernet devices: eth0, pan0, wlan0.  Are all your ethernet interffaces listed above?
[01:40] <_hc> I want to get my trackpad working fully
[01:40] <pm> Anyone know if the latest Java is available in backports?
[01:41] <unop> theUg, well, again, i'm not sure as i don't run gnome - but when i configured it, i had to delete the 'default' keyring so that the next time an app wanted to use it, you would be prompted to set a password for it - at which point you leave it blank
[01:41] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> nope, but wireless acts like an ethernet..   anyhow do not have both interfaces  eth0 and wlan0 connected to same router unless you know how to manipulate your route tables
[01:41] <Mr_Goodkat> good morning
[01:41] <linny1> how can one get the unlock or add user button to work in ubuntu 8.04 i cant add users ?
[01:41] <Mr_Goodkat> does anyone have an idea why my umpc wont recognize my cf card?
[01:42] <theUg> unop: cool. If GUI fails, I’ll just delete the keyring file, I’ve read about that. Appreciated.
[01:42] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: what??
[01:42] <dmi3on> hi all, i have problem with network sharing between ubuntu and vista, vista folders i access from XP its ask for passwd, but from ubuntu when i double clik on vista PC i get just empty folder
[01:42] <Mr_Goodkat> im using intrepid mid and dmesg says smth like pcmcia card removed/added when i plug it in
[01:43] <tranceparance> Does anyone know how to connect to multiple VPN's in Ubuntu?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> dmi3on,  i have to enter the path to the share for some odd reaon for my machines    ie: smb://windowsserver/sharename   THEN it will ask
[01:43] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> responding to your query, and given you advise too
[01:44] <dmi3on> Dr_Willis, you mean sharename name of a folder ?
[01:44] <n8tuser> tranceparance -> you have multiple clients?
[01:44] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: I'm sorry but what you said didn't make sense to me, can you please explain it better.
[01:44] <n8tuser> tranceparance -> you have multiple vpn  clients?  then for each connection you use one client.. be careful of your routing though
[01:44] <linny1> how can one get the unlock or add user button to work in ubuntu 8.04 i cant add users ?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> dmi3on,  the shared folder has a 'share' name - yes...
[01:45] <leo_rockway> linny1: you need root privileges
[01:45] <tranceparance> N8... I would like to connect to a VPN and one in the USA and want to connect to both at the same time... the GUI for VPN in Ubuntu is of no use :-|
[01:45] <dmi3on> Dr_Willis, thanks
[01:45] <leo_rockway> linny1: try using gksudo
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> dmi3on,  then i bookmark the location. :)
[01:45] <linny1> leo_rockway: gk sudo what ?
[01:45] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  My laptop makes a clicking sound whenever I disconnect the power cord, after a somewhat longish delay (2-5 seconds).  Does this happen to anyone else?  What might be causing it?  ISTR this starting to happen after a software upgrade...
[01:45] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> do not have two nics connected to same subnet, because your packet will not know which nic  it will take to get out of your box.. if you dont understand this, you need to do some networking tutorial
[01:45] <baz> hey gang, everytime I boot I run some bash scripts (mainly to mount SSHFS drives). Whats a good, clean way to run/manage a bunch of boot scripts? I know I can stick things in "sessions", but it seems ugly to reference many disparate .sh files in there. Are there any little apps that help you organize lots of little .sh scripts? Is there some 'best practice' I could follow? Cheers...
[01:45] <linny1> i thought that was the idea of the unlock button
[01:45] <craigbass1976> is there a photocopy app for ubuntu?  Not xsane, which just scans, butone that will complete the whole process?
[01:46] <dmi3on> Dr_Willis, ok :)
[01:46] <Tabidachi> jonaskoelker, what about when you plug the cord in?
[01:46] <leo_rockway> linny1: I don't know what the name of the app is. Alternatively you can do all that from console.
[01:46] <jonaskoelker> baz: create your own private /etc/init.d?
[01:46] <jonaskoelker> Tabidachi: no sound
[01:46] <leo_rockway> linny1: yes, that sounds weird, the unlock button should unlock
[01:46] <Tabidachi> jonaskoelker, what desktop enviroments are installed on your computer?
[01:47] <yoyoned> baz call the scrpts from /etc/rc.local
[01:47] <linny1> leo_rockway: im aware i could do it in terminal im trying to establish if my install is bad there seems to be somthing wrong here
[01:47] <jonaskoelker> Tabidachi: gnome 2.24.1 (2008-10-24)
[01:47] <benjamin_1> n8tuser:  I'm sorry but I thought this area was for help, not know-it-alls putting down people who are learning.
[01:47] <unop> baz, if they're user scripts - what i would do is create a single script (called from the session) that invoked other scripts in turn
[01:47] <tranceparance> alternatively.... if you can suggest a good VPN GUI client that will connect to OpenVPN server... that would be a great help
[01:47] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> no no, it does not mean i have to hand hold you every step of the way, you have to do your part
[01:47] <linny1> leo_rockway: you see the os is preinstalled on a dedicated server
[01:47] <leo_rockway> linny1: I don't use Gnome so I wouldn't be able to check it on my installation... perhaps somebody else could check it for you
[01:48] <linny1> leo_rockway: yes me too i use openbox on my local machine
[01:48] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> you are asking me about concepts and i have no patience to explain the details to your today
[01:48] <jrib> linny1: what is the output « groups »
[01:48] <linny1>  jrib admin
[01:48] <mib_z0uxs4> Hello all, im starting in the computer security field and im trying to execute a buffer overflow in a program "i made the app my self" and i turned off stack randomization in the OS and compiled with gcc with the -fno-stack-protector flag but no matter what i do i cant overwrite the eip pointer
[01:49] <mib_z0uxs4> is there some other stack protection i need to disable?
[01:49] <benjamin_1> n8tuser: Would tomorrow be a better day?
[01:49] <n8tuser> mib_z0uxs4 -> perhaps get an older kernel that has a known issues, newer ones are patched
[01:49] <n8tuser> benjamin_1 -> depends, of what i may have for breakfast
[01:49] <jonaskoelker> mib_z0uxs4: are you just trying to make your program crash?
[01:49] <mib_z0uxs4> oh yes im tryin this on ubuntu 8.10
[01:49] <baz> unop, your suggestion seems very good, what do u think of yoyoned's rc.local suggestion? Better, worse, matter of preference?
[01:49] <leo_rockway> benjamin_1: being told to read a tutorial is not being a know-it-all that puts down people
[01:49] <linny1> jrib: the oputput is : admin
[01:49] <jrib> linny1: really?  that's the full output?
[01:50] <linny1> jrib: yes
[01:50] <jrib> linny1: erm, so you've messed with groups?
[01:50] <unop> baz, /etc/rc.local is run as root - which means all scripts spawned from it are run as root too - now, that might not be what you want
[01:50] <mib_z0uxs4> jona: nope im trying to overwrite the eip pointer
[01:50] <Dillizar> what is the command line for removing flash plugin for mozilla
[01:50] <linny1> jrib; no its a brand new dedicated server just logged onto it now
[01:50] <^hashbang^> mib_z0uxs4: check out http://kerneltrap.org/node/5783
[01:50] <jonaskoelker> mib_z0uxs4: to a particular value, I take it?
[01:50] <mib_z0uxs4> i can make the program seg fault
[01:50] <Tabidachi> jonaskoelker, may I private message you?
[01:50] <jonaskoelker> Tabidachi: sure
[01:50] <jrib> linny1: are you using ubuntu?
[01:50] <benjamin_1> leo_rockway: I understand that.
[01:51] <linny1> yes ubuntu 804 lts
[01:51] <mib_z0uxs4> at this point im just trying to overwrite with AAA's
[01:51] <mib_z0uxs4> the app i made has a buff size of 10
[01:51] <jrib> linny1: did the install complete successfully?  This is not normal behavior.  Your user should have more groups...
[01:51] <unop> baz, the advantage of rc.local is that it is run on boot - even when a user has not logged on physically at a console - and that can be used to launch script in the background - but usually you'd write your own init script then
[01:51] <mib_z0uxs4> and even if i send a 100 A's to it i cant overwrite eip
[01:52] <n8tuser> mib_z0uxs4 -> umm why not try it againts older kernels? you may have better luck with the older ones..like 2.6.11 perhaps..
[01:52] <^hashbang^> mib_z0uxs4: did you take a look at http://kerneltrap.org/node/5783
[01:52] <baz> unop, ahh, very important to knnow because actually some of the scripts would not work if run as root (which is sudo, right?) - strange I know, usually root is not safe but atleast gets u where u want to go - in my case i wouldn't be able to get there
[01:52] <linny1> jrib: the hosting company install the os not me
[01:52] <shaft0> Has anyone in here worked with VirtualBox?  I've just installed it, and it works well until I use the mouse in the VM and then want to use it in the host desktop
[01:52] <shaft0> After I use it in the VM, if I use it elsewhere, I can move it fine, but clicks do NOT register.
[01:52] <jrib> linny1: well this isn't a default install
[01:52] <mib_z0uxs4> i will give it a try then n8tuser and hashbang
[01:52] <n8tuser> shaft0 -> you have to press a key combo? perhaps  ctl+alt ?
[01:52] <mib_z0uxs4> i mean thanx guys lol
[01:52] <linny1> shaft0: rgt ctrl id the toggle
[01:52] <Mr_Goodkat> is there any support/channel for ubuntu MID ?
[01:52] <|ns|nR8> right control button shaft0 i think it is
[01:53] <Adross> I just upgraded my system, and suddenly my nvidia driver doesn't work
[01:53] <unop> baz, sudo can be used to run script as other users too - not just as root
[01:53] <Adross> is this a common problem?
[01:53] <linny1>  shaft0: you should install guest additions
[01:53] <shaft0> n8tuser: well I have to click to get out of it, yes, right ctrl, and I can move it around the host desktop just fine
[01:53] <shaft0> but clicks do not register after that.
[01:53] <shaft0> guest additions?
[01:53] <bastid_raZor> Adross; reinstall the driver
[01:53] <Adross> bastid_raZor: tried that
[01:54] <n8tuser> shaft0 -> well as we have advised you, key combos to get it out of vmware and back to host -- switching back and forth
[01:54] <bastid_raZor> Adross; upgraded from what to what?
[01:54] <linny1> shaft0: in the top menus on the vm there will be an option to install guest additions
[01:54] <Adross> just a regular apt-get upgrade
[01:54] <cjae> how do I do a file system check on my / (reiserfs) and /home (reiserfs), how do I get to a run level where I umount them?
[01:54] <jonaskoelker> in power mgmt prefs, there's a "use sound to notify in event of an error".  Where are such errors logged?
[01:54] <n8tuser> cjae  init level 1 ?
[01:54] <television> How do I set up Ubuntu (Intrepid Ibex) to always use my TV as the main monitor (instead of VGA or whatever)? My TV is plugged into the S-video on my Radeon HD 2400 PRO video card.
[01:55] <bastid_raZor> Adross; what was updated? which version of ubuntu? did you install the nVidia drivers via restricted manager?
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> cjae,  you could use a live cd..  thats how i normally do it. :) but im lazy - this lets me fsck the drives.. while i am playing games from the live cd.
[01:55] <jrib> cjae: a check will be run if you create a file named forcefsck in the roof of the partition
[01:55] <shaft0> linny: it's greyed out
[01:55] <tananda> it
[01:55] <cjae> n8tuser: tried that but it freezes on the stupid ubuntu splash screen
[01:55] <fearful> taz_: ok i'm back are you still here?
[01:55] <linny1> shaft0: what os is the guest ?
[01:55] <shaft0> n8tuser: I'm using the keycombos to get in and out of it, but the problem persists
[01:55] <shaft0> XP
[01:56] <linny1> strange
[01:56] <mcstinky> good evening everyone, anyone here strong in wine, and being good with netbook remix is a plus too =p
[01:56] <Adross> bastid_raZor: not sure, a variety of packages. Intrepid, and yes
[01:56] <cjae> Dr_Willis: that is good idea
[01:56] <linny1> shaft0: unmount the cd
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> cjae,  i got a Ubuntu-bootable-thumbdrive i often use :)
[01:56] <linny1> shaft0: then try iy
[01:56] <linny1> it
[01:56] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: it's usually a good idea to just ask your question
[01:56] <cjae> Dr_Willis: got one too
[01:56] <mcstinky> leo_rockway, ah right okay
[01:56] <shaft0> I can switch between XP and Ubuntu no problem, using the key combos, but if I use the mouse, it will work fine in the guest os, but when i try to go back to either of them it doesn't work
[01:56] <shaft0> linny: there is no CD mounted.
[01:56] <bastid_raZor> Adross; what errors are you getting in ~/.xsession-errors related to nvidia?
[01:56] <cjae> brb
[01:57] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: then if someone can help you they will
[01:57] <shaft0> I managed to get through the full install
[01:57] <shaft0> so im in the OS,
[01:57] <linny1> shaft0: did you use a real cd or an iso
[01:57] <Dieg0> hi, i need help.
[01:57] <mcstinky> well I'm in the status of completely elimitating windows, and I'm trying to get warcraft 3 working, I've installed through wine, but it crashes upon opening the game itself, and I get a black screen during the intro
[01:57] <fearful> dieg0: shoot
[01:57] <Dieg0> fearful tks!
[01:57] <Adross> bastid_raZor: nothing. Thanks, but I think this might be a kernal issue
[01:57] <cjae> jrib: sudo touch forcefsck ? in /
[01:58] <Dieg0> i download the last version 8.10
[01:58] <jrib> cjae: for /, sure
[01:58] <shaft0> i used an ISO of my XP disc that I integrated sp3 into
[01:58] <jrib> !enter | Dieg0
[01:58] <Dieg0> and when i restart i get: grub>
[01:58] <linny1> shaft0: pm
[01:58] <Dieg0> and i dont know what can i do...
[01:58] <fearful> dieg0: nothing happens when you restart with the CD in, just a grub>
[01:58] <cjae> jrib: does that work for reiserfs? thought it had to be reiserfsck?
[01:59] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: if you didn't do it yet, you should check this: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1177
[02:00] <ngamber> anyone know anything about the recent 2.6.27 kernels and sata hardware causing drops to busybox on boot?
[02:00] <jrib> cjae: I don't know, but I imagine so.
[02:00] <Dieg0> yes fearful i get that.. now im with vista ultimate and i want to remove and install or test the liveCD and only see "grub> press TAB por commands" :S
[02:00] <fearful> dieg0: did you burn it correctly
[02:00] <mustangg> hey the chan.. Q: if I install fresh then restore my /home from an rsnapshot mount, are there any specific problems which could arise that would require me to chmod ".dmrc "?
[02:00] <jrib> cjae: apparently not (from google)
[02:01] <vandrar> hi
[02:01] <aaditya1> Dieg0: consider upgrading to Windows XP - know your rights
[02:01] <Dieg0> fearful im back..
[02:01] <nickrud> mustangg, owner most likely. You can simply delete that file
[02:01] <fearful> dieg0: did you burn the cd correctly
[02:01] <mib_z0uxs4> darn, i cant make the magic happen :( ok well can i get older kernels with apt?
[02:01] <fearful> dieg0: that happens when the CD has a defect or was not burnt correctly
[02:01] <n8tuser> cjae -> i dont recall having a different command to fsck an reiserfs  filesystem, it should work eh?
[02:02] <Consulta> hello, can someone help about shutdown isues whit ubuntu?
[02:02] <Dieg0> i dont know... i check for "check the files" nero.
[02:02] <blueraven> do you guys know, considering portable ex hd's have a slow transfer rate does that mean it would make an operating system run on them run very slow on a computer?
[02:02] <fearful> !justask | consulta
[02:02] <_2> so, i have this laptop, and i plug this monitor in, and xorg goes to smack.   anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[02:02] <Dieg0> fearful speak spanish?
[02:02] <mustangg> nickrud: can you be more specific, I'm a little slow tonight :)
[02:02] <fearful> dieg0: pm me, yes I do my native language
[02:03] <n8tuser> blueraven -> slight slowness, you want it hyperspeed? then use a fixed disk installed?
[02:03] <Mr_Goodkat> does anyone have an idea why my umpc wont recognize my cf card?
[02:03] <Mr_Goodkat> im using intrepid mid and dmesg says smth like pcmcia card removed/added when i plug it in
[02:04] <nickrud> mustangg, it simply records what desktop session you're running; if it doesn't exist it will be created. _Why_ it exists and breaks startup if it's not 600 I have no clue
[02:04] <blueraven> well, I think my hd in my laptop is 300MB/s because it's sata2..an external hd which is usb2 is like 20MB/s so wouldn't it run an operating system 10 times slower?
[02:04] <Mr_Goodkat> but there are no new devices under /dev
[02:04] <heatmzzr> what is the command to move a file as root?
[02:04] <GeffIsLegend> hey anyone mind telling me how to get sounds in WoW working
[02:04] <cedeel> heatmzzr, sudo mv
[02:04] <diginux> heatmzzr: sudo mv file newfile
[02:04] <Mr_Goodkat> sudo mv /file /destination
[02:05] <n8tuser> blueraven -> dont forget the kernel is ran on ram not on hd, only if it needs something from the disk where it has to swap
[02:05] <dogmagitron> hello any of you good folks know how to automatically set the title of a tab in gnome-terminal to the last command executed?
[02:05] <television> How do I set up Ubuntu (Intrepid Ibex) to always use my TV as the main monitor (instead of VGA or whatever)? My TV is plugged into the S-video on my Radeon HD 2400 PRO video card.
[02:05] <themusicgod1> is there anything special I should be doing to make sure that the linux kernel detects both cores of an amd64 machine?
[02:05] <cedeel> or, sudo su, then mv file destination
[02:05] <themime> net
[02:05] <blueraven> n8tuser-does that include for windows?
[02:05] <_2>  does anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[02:05] <tritium> cedeel: sudo -i, even
[02:05] <Mr_Goodkat> su changes the terminal to root, why use sudo and su in one command
[02:05] <_2> cedeel sudo -i
[02:05] <tritium> Mr_Goodkat: don't.
[02:05] <n8tuser> blueraven -> yes, both uses ram
[02:06] <mcstinky> leo_rockway, thanks, that actually helped some =D I got into the game, but it's extremely laggy... could it be graphics driver issues?
[02:06] <cedeel> Mr_Goodkat, for the fun of it
[02:06] <Dieg0> tks fearful! :)
[02:06] <Mr_Goodkat> lol cedeel
[02:06] <themime> i was playing around with my panels and removed the main on that had the network thing that you could click to display a list of available wireless connections - i can't find it again to readd it, only the network configuration and network connection, neither of which show that info
[02:06] <Mr_Goodkat> how do i change the menus/taskbar in ubuntu mid?
[02:06] <blueraven> n8tuser: so then for program files on startup, that part is slower
[02:07] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: could be. Depends on your drivers too. Try disabling compiz if you are using it...
[02:07] <mcstinky> I read somewhere that ubuntu has a native driver for the GMA 950 mobile graphics chip, is this true, or will I need to install a new graphics driver?
[02:07] <n8tuser> blueraven -> yes
[02:07] <Mr_Goodkat> it uses hildon as desktop but i didnt figure out how to confgure it
[02:07] <_2> cedeel one could use sudo su -    but sudo -i   does the same thing basicly, with less overhead.
[02:07] <Consulta> Who can helpme with a computer stuff?
[02:07] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: Intel has free graphics included in the installation.
[02:07] <GeffIsLegend> hey anyone mind telling me how to get sounds in WoW working
[02:07] <Mr_Goodkat> I read somewhere that ubuntu has a native driver for the GMA 950 mobile graphics chip, is this true, or will I need to install a new graphics driver? <--- the gma 950 works out of the box in interpid
[02:07] <leo_rockway> !ask | Consulta
[02:08] <Mr_Goodkat> driver is "intel" although some pcs work just with "vesa" and crash when you use "intel"
[02:08] <mcstinky> leo_rockway, ah right.. okay so it is not a driver issue then I can gather
[02:09] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: it could be a driver issue. You most likely need nonfree drivers.
[02:09] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: unless you have Intel.
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> GeffIsLegend,  i would have to suggest checking the wine app database.
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | GeffIsLegend
[02:10] <Mr_Goodkat> how do i change the menus/taskbar in ubuntu mid? how can i configure the hildon desktop?
[02:10] <mcstinky> leo_rockway, my lspci lists a intel 945GM/GMS as VGA
[02:10] <Mr_Goodkat> there is not even a button/function to powerdown
[02:10] <booksbuggy> nope
[02:11] <booksbuggy> that's taken out for some reason
[02:11] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: then I don't know where the problem could be.
[02:11] <ngamber> anyone know anything about the recent problem with ubuntu dropping to a busybox shell on every boot?
[02:11] <Matir> ngamber, haven't run into it
[02:11] <booksbuggy> ngamber what you mean?
[02:11] <tritium> ngamber: sounds like an isolated problem
[02:12] <mcstinky> leo_rockway, you've been a great help so far, I got in to the game, so thank you for that =D I'm still reading the page for some fixes etc, maybe something else there fixes my problem
[02:12] <ngamber> tritium: there's quite a few people this this, on the forums, launchpad, etc. i figured it was pretty common
[02:12] <tritium> ngamber: ah, if that's the case, then I'd agree
[02:13] <booksbuggy> ngamber, what you mean by dropping to a busybox shell?
[02:13] <ngamber> tritium: no one has a solution that i've seen, except for upgrading to a newer kernel... just tried the latest intrepid and jaunty ones and neither's helped
[02:13] <[NB]> is there a fix for the shutdown splashscreen, freezes in firefox with nvidia 180 drivers?
[02:13] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: if you can't fix the problem leave a comment in that page and maybe someone else can tell you what's going on. I rarely use WINE and I never played any games with it, so unfortunately that's as much as I can help you.
[02:13] <tritium> ngamber: I've not run into the problem.
[02:13] <ngamber> booksbuggy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765195
[02:13] <themime> what is the name of the panel/application that shows in the taskbar in the default menu?  i had removed it by accident and am trying to get it back
[02:13] <Mr_Goodkat> is there a support site/channel for ubuntu mid?
[02:14] <themime> er, i forgot to add, that shows wireless connections available*
[02:14] <Mr_Goodkat> its pretty annoying to setup, im gonna try netbook remix next
[02:14] <GeffIsLegend1> hey anyone mind helping me with my sound, the sound from World of Warcraft doesnt seem to work AND ventrilo wont detect my Mic when i try to set it up
[02:14] <booksbuggy> ngamber, you mean while it was booting up normally when you try to use it?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> ventrilo under wine can be problematic.. and using 2 wine apps that both access the sound card can be problemnatic
[02:15] <ngamber> booksbuggy: yeah, i managed to get it to install by adding all_generic_ide to the kernel line in grub
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> Mr_Goodkat,  using the eeebuntu  thing now on my Netbook. it works very well
[02:15] <ngamber> booksbuggy: but that's a workaround, and makes any disk access incredibly slow
[02:15] <booksbuggy> ngamber, my computer used to do that
[02:15] <booksbuggy> ngamber, not anymore though
[02:15] <mcstinky> leo_rockway, I don't plan on doing much gaming either, but I'm surprised how well it handles windows applications, I'm thinking about trying office
[02:16] <booksbuggy> ngamber, i just went in and secured the wiring in my computer then it is fine again
 Mr_Goodkat,  using the eeebuntu  thing now on my Netbook. it works very well <-- im having a u820 with 5,9" touchscreen, do you think netbook will be suitable?
[02:16] <booksbuggy> ngamber, haven't had that since
[02:16] <ngamber> booksbuggy: i _did_ just plug this drive in, i suppose i'll try that. thanks
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> Mr_Goodkat,  try it and see is all i can say.   Thats the Nokia thing? You may have to tweak it to get it working right.
[02:17] <booksbuggy> ngamber, this is a 256 ram computer by the way XD
[02:17] <mikeyy> hi guys
[02:17] <fearful> hello
[02:17] <mikeyy> what is ubuntu?
[02:17] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: I heard Crossover Office works perfectly, but it's not free as in beer.
[02:17] <Mr_Goodkat> no its fujitsu, i tried ubuntu mid but the wifi is laggy and cf cards dont work and the gui is pretty inconvenient
[02:17] <mikeyy> my friend told me bout it, but i dont understand
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> !ubuntu | mikeyy
[02:17] <ngamber> booksbuggy: mine's 8192 :p
[02:17] <subpar> mikeyy, it's an operating system, like windows, or Mac Os/X
[02:17] <mikeyy> whats linux? is it a program?
[02:17] <fearful> mikeyy: Ubuntu is a linux operating system based on debian and uses GNOME.
[02:17] <mikeyy> is it a windows?
[02:17] <mikeyy> or a mac?
[02:18] <leo_rockway> mcstinky: Crossover Office is pretty much a WINE modified to work seamless with MS Office
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> mikeyy,  its neither...
[02:18] <fearful> mikeyy: its like linux
[02:18] <subpar> mikeyy, no it has nothing to do with microsoft or apple
[02:18] <subpar> though it'll run on any computer
[02:18] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: GNU/Linux is a free as in freedom operating system
[02:18] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: Ubuntu is just one of the many distributions
[02:18] <mikeyy> whats GNU? is that a windows?
[02:18] <booksbuggy> ngamber, 8192 mb ram?
[02:18] <tranceparance> Ubuntu = Linux based operating system = open source = free :-)
[02:18] <mikeyy> whats a distribution?
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> mikeyy,  read up on gnu.org
[02:19] <dogmagitron> mikeyy: ubuntu - is a word that means humanity towards others
[02:19] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: go to gnu.org fsf.org and read as much as you can
[02:19] <Mr_Goodkat> Dr_Willis, how big is the screen of the eeepc?
[02:19] <tranceparance> best is to bring yourself up to speed... check out ubuntu.com
[02:19] <cedeel> mikeyy, you know wikipedia?
[02:19] <fearful> mikeyy: distributions mean that there is more than one, there is Kubuntu, Edubunto, Xubuntu and of course Ubuntu
[02:19] <mikeyy> dogmagitron: how do i get humanity towards others?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> Mr_Goodkat,  mine is 9.? i think...
[02:19] <mikeyy> that sounds great
[02:19] <dogmagitron> mikeyy: or it could also mean - I am who I am because of who we all are
[02:19] <Mr_Goodkat> k
[02:19] <mikeyy> can i get some of that?
[02:19] <dogmagitron> mikeyy sure
[02:19] <fearful> mikeyy: you can obtain any of them you like, www.ubuntu.com
[02:19] <mikeyy> how many do i need?
[02:20] <cedeel> mikeyy, you know wikipedia?
[02:20] <Deichgraf> moin, I just started tracker and configured some directories. tracker-status says since a few hours that it is "Initializing", but my hard disk is heavily busy, my CPU as well...
[02:20] <dogmagitron> mikeyy just one
[02:20] <fearful> mikeyy: completely free
[02:20] <Deichgraf> is this a normal behaviour?
[02:20] <izinucs> I've got an ssh question.. I just changed /etc/hosts to reflect a 192.xxx address of my server on the lan so I can just ssh <servername> and then connect.. I say yes to the RSA key fingerprint and then try to enter a password.. It doesn't like the password.. if I use <server>@<ip_address> it uses the same password with no problem.. How do I remedy this?
[02:20] <dogmagitron> so does anyone know whether it is possible to change the title of a tab in gnome-terminal to match the last command executed
[02:20] <cedeel> Deichgraf, what tracker? bt?
[02:21] <fearful> mikeyy: download a LiveCD and try it out, you can use it without having to install it
[02:21] <mikeyy> how many livecd's do i need?
[02:21] <fearful> mikeyy: 1
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> dogmagitron,  with the bash prompt/terminal escape codes.. it might be possible. I know you can change xterm titles.. and if the tab reflexts the title bar text.. it could be done
[02:21] <NetEcho> there you go snakedoc
[02:21] <cedeel> izinucs, you need to use <user>@<ip>
[02:21] <leo_rockway> izinucs: try ssh <username>@<servername>
[02:21] <Deichgraf> cedeel: I use tracker-search / trackerd
[02:21] <snakedoc> ok. i have a question when anyone gets a moment
[02:21] <Consulta> hello CEDEEL
[02:22] <mikeyy> so
[02:22] <mikeyy> what do i do with a livecd? do i install it?
[02:22] <mikeyy> is it a windows or a mac?
[02:22] <fearful> mikeyy: you can choose to
[02:22] <izinucs> cedeel, shouldn't.. ... leo_rockway that worked .. THANKS!
[02:22] <NetEcho> snakedoc just ask the question or you'll never get help its a busy channel
[02:22] <snakedoc> i installed ubuntu today when my linpus crashed. it doesnt recognize my atheros chipset. anyone know what to do?
[02:22] <fearful> mikeyy: no ubuntu is nothing to do with Microsoft or Macintosh, its completely different Operating System
[02:22] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: it's not Windows nor Mac, it's GNU/Linux. You could install it if you want or you can try it out without installing it.
[02:22] <mikeyy> whats a snakedoc?
[02:22] <subpar> mikeyy, I would suggest reading up on wikipedia about ubuntu and linux so you have a little bit more of an idea what you are doing before you install ubuntu
[02:22] <snakedoc> im a snakedoc
[02:22] <Consulta> help please
[02:22] <cedeel> izinucs, they should both work equally
[02:23] <dogmagitron> Dr_Willis: thanks :) i wish you could point me in the next direction, because google just shrugs its shoulder
 i installed ubuntu today when my linpus crashed. it doesnt recognize my atheros chipset. anyone know what to do? <-- which atheros do you have
[02:23] <mikeyy> how do i get a snakedoc?
[02:23] <Consulta> hey.... CEDEEL
[02:23] <Consulta> help
[02:23] <mikeyy> i have a limpus
[02:23] <snakedoc> ar242x 802.11agb
[02:23] <mikeyy> i have lots of them
[02:23] <subpar> mikeyy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[02:23] <mikeyy> if anyone wants sum
[02:23] <booksbuggy> mikeyy the nickname of one of the person here is snakedoc
[02:23] <mikeyy> ooooooo
[02:23] <dogmagitron> mikeyy: ubuntu is not windows or mac
[02:23] <cedeel> Consulta, hey...
[02:23] <mikeyy> that makes sense
[02:23] <FloodBot1> mikeyy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:23] <Mr_Goodkat> did you try madwifi?
[02:23] <mikeyy> dogmagitron: its both?
[02:23] <[NB]> linux-backport-generic-thingy
[02:23] <dogmagitron> mikeyy: it is neither
[02:23] <snakedoc> i  couldnt figure how to get it on that computer
[02:24] <izinucs> cedeel, yes.. I've been using <servername>@ip_address however I wanted to shorten it.. thus the change in the hosts file.. you were right.. but not for my question..
[02:24] <snakedoc> even when i hardwire into network it wont connect
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> dogmagitron,  bash prompt howto - i think mentions how to change xterm title . or google for 'xterm title codes'  as for the gnome bit. You may want to ask in #gnome - they may know somthing more specific
[02:24] <mikeyy> dogmagitron: so... its like... DOS?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> 'like dos in the wsay that dos is like windows and ox-s and bsd. and c64, and... in that they are all computer operating systems'
[02:24] <snakedoc> it says its "unclaimed" Mr_Goodkat
[02:24] <dogmagitron> Dr_Willis: ok thanks :)
[02:24] <fearful> mikeyy: why don't you read up on it on wikipedia you'll understand more
[02:24] <cedeel> izinucs, is your servername identical to your username?
[02:24] <loveissuicide> hello, does anyone know how to setup a wireless xbox 360 controller on ubuntu 8.10? I know there is a tutorial for dapper but not for intrepid
[02:24] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: you can't be told what GNU/Linux is, you have to see it for yourself.
[02:24] <[NB]> search google and read about all the bug reports before u even try to install ubuntu lol
[02:25] <dogmagitron> mikeyy: in a twisted sort of way yes
[02:25] <mikeyy> leo_rockway: like god?
[02:25] <izinucs> cedeel, yes
[02:25] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: like the matrix
[02:25] <fearful> leo_rockway I think your totally right
[02:25] <dogmagitron> mikeyy: is acting like Steve Ballmer....
[02:25] <fearful> mikeyy: its like the Daddy of all operating systems :)
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> 'The Mother In law of all Operating Systems' :)
[02:25] <fearful> lol
[02:25] <mikeyy> so, im uploading an ubuntu
[02:25] <mikeyy> wat do i du next?
[02:25] <meoblast001> what package provides Python XML?
[02:25] <leo_rockway> izinucs: I'm glad that worked :)
[02:26] <fearful> mikeyy: uploading or downloading?
[02:26] <izinucs> "an ubuntu" ???
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> mikeyy,  read the guides/info at the homepage...  would be a good step
[02:26] <cedeel> izinucs, then that is why...
[02:26] <Mr_Goodkat> snakedoc http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578778 <-- they got it working with ndiswrapper
[02:26] <tranceparance> @ Mikey... read up on ubuntu.com my friend then proceed from there :-)
[02:26] <izinucs> cedeel, so if the user name is the same as the server name then there's a conflict?
[02:26] <izinucs> *confusion
[02:27] <leo_rockway> izinucs: I don't think that would be a conflict, just call it ssh <whatever>@<whatever>
[02:27] <cedeel> izinucs, if your local and remote usernames matches then there is no need to enter one, just ssh <servername>
[02:27] <dogmagitron> dogmagitron
[02:27] <izinucs> cedeel, ah.. I missunderstood.. my local name is not close to the server name..
[02:27] <mikeyy> fearful: uploading i think
[02:28] <snakedoc> Mr_Goodkat, they dont have a good link that i saw
[02:28] <fearful> mikeyy I'm sure your downloading the distribution.
[02:28] <ozzloy> hey, how do i see what version of ubuntu i'm running from the cli?
[02:28] <Mr_Goodkat> snakedoc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:28] <mikeyy> i think i have enough ubuntus to make a livecd
[02:28] <mikeyy> what do i do now?
[02:28] <leo_rockway> ozzloy: lsb_release -a
[02:28] <tranceparance> mikey you are making no sense
[02:28] <ozzloy> leo_rockway: thanks
[02:29] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: try reading a tutorial on how to be a less obvious troll, that would be more fun
[02:29] <leo_rockway> ozzloy: np
[02:29] <[NB]> get the intrepid release
[02:29] <meoblast001> anyone
[02:29] <meoblast001> ?
[02:29] <cedeel> mikeyy, you need at least 100 ubuntus to make one which springs alive!
[02:29] <leo_rockway> !anyone | meoblast001
[02:29] <snakedoc> do i download all three that are there Mr_Goodkat
[02:29] <fearful> mikeyy: I'm not sure what you are saying, your suppose to download the image (.iso) from the www.ubuntu.com webpage
[02:30] <GeffIsLegend1> hey anyone mind helping me with my sound, the sound from World of Warcraft doesnt seem to work AND ventrilo wont detect my Mic when i try to set it up
[02:30] <[NB]> mikeyy u better have a compatible computer
[02:30] <Consulta> who is a master of computer
[02:30] <fearful> geffislegend1: Open the settings for wine
[02:30] <cedeel> mikeyy, are you sure you want a real ubuntu? such a relationship requires a lot of work
[02:30] <mikeyy> yeah, i want a lot
[02:30] <leo_rockway> GeffIsLegend1: mumble > ventrilo
[02:30] <cedeel> !ask | Consulta
[02:30] <mikeyy> my friend says they're awesome
[02:31] <mikeyy> Consulta: HI
[02:31] <mikeyy> I KNOW YOU
[02:31] <GeffIsLegend1> never heard of it
[02:31] <mikeyy> I TALKED TO YOU
[02:31] <blueraven> anyone know what SATA is?
[02:31] <fearful> geffislegend1: try to kill the pulseaudio I heard that working for some people WoW
[02:31] <cedeel> Serial ATA
[02:31] <[NB]> something to do with hard drive
[02:31] <blueraven> if my hd has SATA interface does that mean I can use external SATA devices also?
[02:32] <cedeel> The Serial ATA (SATA, IPA: /ˈseɪtə/, /ˈsætə/ or /ˈsɑːtə/) computer bus is a storage-interface for connecting host bus adapters (most commonly integrated into laptop computers and desktop motherboards) to mass storage devices (such as hard disk drives and optical drives).
[02:32] <blueraven> does that require a special slot?
[02:32] <Consulta> THERE IS SOMEONE MASTER IN COMPUTER
[02:32] <floatboat> help with this bug pls http://dpaste.com/119971/ :(
[02:32] <Consulta> ﻿THERE IS SOMEONE MASTER IN COMPUTER?
[02:32] <Consulta> ﻿﻿THERE IS SOMEONE MASTER IN COMPUTER?
[02:32] <booksbuggy> sata drive normally needs special kind of cable
[02:32] <FloodBot1> Consulta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <cedeel> blueraven, what matters if if your mobo has the connectors
[02:32] <Consulta> ﻿﻿THERE IS SOMEONE MASTER IN COMPUTER?
[02:32] <blueraven> I need to be able to use an external SATA device and I don't know if my computer can use it
[02:32] <mikeyy> DONT BAN Consulta
[02:32] <cedeel> !ask | Consulta
[02:33] <fearful> consulta: well yes, like every other os, Administrator on Windows
[02:33] <KingJamesII> I need help setting up my webcam
[02:33] <mikeyy> how do i burn my ubuntu?
[02:33] <Consulta> how can i fix a shut down problem
[02:33] <fearful> mikeyy with any cd/dvd burner...
[02:33] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: matches or lighter
[02:33] <booksbuggy> which kind of shut down problem?
[02:33] <fearful> lol
[02:33] <[NB]> does it have anything to do with the nvidia 180 drivers?
[02:33] <snakedoc> atheros chipset, doesnt hook up. says its "unclaimed". help.
[02:34] <Consulta> when i shutdown an a message apear SYSTEM HALTED
[02:34] <cedeel> mikeyy, now, don't be an arsonist..
[02:34] <Consulta> and dont turn it off
[02:34] <booksbuggy> and it doesn't shut down?
[02:34] <booksbuggy> i got the solution :P
[02:34] <cedeel> Consulta, sudo shutdown -P now
[02:34] <Consulta> no only by pushin the buton
[02:34] <cedeel> Consulta, sudo shutdown -P now
[02:35] <booksbuggy> got the thing in the text file :P
[02:35] <mikeyy> cedeel: but the internet says i need to burn my ubuntu
[02:35] <mikeyy> so i can instal it
[02:35] <cedeel> mikeyy, that is just rude!
[02:35] <[NB]> do a wibu install or whatever its called and use a grub bootloader
[02:35] <jin_> hello every one
[02:35] <KingJamesII> anyone using a built in webcam on an HP Pavallion dv9819wm laptop?
[02:35] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: make the Ubuntu say something, then you say something funny that ridicules the Ubuntu, then say "burn!"
[02:35] <Consulta> ﻿sudo shutdown -P   ?
[02:35] <_2> [NB] wubi
[02:36] <mikeyy> what?
[02:36] <fearful> mikeyy are you trying to be funny? come on
[02:36] <amathis> hello, I just installed ubuntu and it never asked me to set a root pass
[02:36] <cedeel> mikeyy, you need to stroke it gently with your mouse,,
[02:36] <amathis> how do I find this out?
[02:36] <mikeyy> cedeel: is it gunna cum on me?
[02:36] <mikeyy> it dont want teeh ubuntu aidz
[02:36] <mikeyy> my cousin got that
[02:36] <KingJamesII> amathis: you don't need a root password. You just use the sudo command
[02:36] <leo_rockway> amathis: Ubuntu uses sudo, you can still set up a root password if you want, though
[02:36] <_2> amathis ubuntu doesn't use a root password
[02:36] <cedeel> mikeyy, no. It will spread its seeds throughout the internet..
[02:36] <mikeyy> he slept with WAY too many ubuntus
[02:36] <nickrud> !o4o mikeyy (shame shame)
[02:36] <_2> !root | amathis
[02:37] <[NB]> fakeroot
[02:37] <leo_rockway> ha, that's a funny fact by ubottu
[02:37] <cedeel> Very "Matrix"
[02:37] <leo_rockway> indeed
[02:37] <mikeyy> the matrix is awesome
[02:38] <mikeyy> i have lots of matrix as well
[02:38] <snakedoc> atheros chipset, doesnt hook up. says its "unclaimed". help please?
[02:38] <KingJamesII> any webcam gurus in the channel? If so I need help setting mine  up
[02:38] <mikeyy> i have a webcam
[02:38] <mikeyy> i have lots of them
[02:38] <Turboweevel> mikeyy not the third movie, that one jumped the shark
[02:38] <mikeyy> you might say im an expert
[02:38] <FloodBot1> mikeyy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:38] <[NB]> use the linux-backports-generic drivers
[02:38] <mikeyy> FloodBot1: STFU
[02:38] <mikeyy> I HATE YOU
[02:38] <mikeyy> NOBODY WILL EVER LOVE YOU
[02:38] <leo_rockway> [NB]: this is a big channel, mention the nick of the person you are addressing.
[02:38] <cedeel> I love FloodBot1
[02:39] <leo_rockway> mikeyy: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:39] <fearful> mikeyy: this is a serious channel, if your really not experiencing any issues move channel
[02:39] <konyta> hi all
[02:39] <fearful> hi
[02:39] <booksbuggy> Consulta, sudo gedit /etc/modules
[02:39] <cedeel> !kickban mikeyy
[02:39] <booksbuggy> and then add this line " apm power_off=1 "
[02:39] <snakedoc> does anyone know how to make ubuntu work with atheros chipsets
[02:40] <booksbuggy> Consulta, and then add this line"apm power_off=1"
[02:40] <dogmagitron> when someone mentions nick my irssi beeps :(
[02:40] <leo_rockway> snakedoc: what's your kernel version?
[02:40] <Consulta> where can I use (          sudo shutdown -P now       )
[02:40] <[NB]> snakedoc: use the linux-backport-generic drivers
[02:40] <snakedoc> 8.10
[02:40] <booksbuggy> Consulta, then save and exit
[02:40] <KingJamesII> can someone help me set up my webcam?
[02:40] <snakedoc> [NB],  how do i do that
[02:40] <cedeel> Consulta, at the terminal
[02:40] <mikeyy> KingJamesII: how many webcams do you have?
[02:40] <nathanhelp> afaik *.exe files are only for windows OS. Do they work under Ubuntu?
[02:40] <[NB]> im guessing the atheros thingy is ur wifi right
[02:40] <snakedoc> yes
[02:40] <_2> Consulta alt+f2
[02:40] <Consulta> ﻿how do i do tha
[02:40] <KingJamesII> mikeyy: only one
[02:41] <cedeel> nathanhelp, using WINE
[02:41] <[NB]> madwifi dont work i tried it in 8.10
[02:41] <leo_rockway> nathanhelp: only with WINE
[02:41] <booksbuggy> hmm who is currently trying to help Consulta?
[02:41] <snakedoc> what worked for you [NB]
[02:41] <_2>          so, i have this laptop, and i plug this monitor in, and xorg goes to smack.   anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[02:41] <unkazs> Hi
[02:41] <mikeyy> KingJamesII: HA! I have at least ten
[02:41] <mikeyy> im way better at webcams then you
[02:41] <[NB]> the linux-backport-generic driver thingy
[02:41] <booksbuggy> because i found a web page that partially help with the shut down thing
[02:41] <mikeyy> i can use them all at once
[02:41] <mikeyy> for a panaramic view
[02:41] <snakedoc> how do i do that [NB]
[02:41]  * dsh ddd
[02:41] <booksbuggy> and it worked for me
[02:42] <cedeel> !kickban mikeyy
[02:42] <[NB]> synaptic package manger + ubuntu cd or apt-get in terminal
[02:42] <snakedoc> apt-get ______________
[02:42] <cedeel> somebody please kickban mikeyy
[02:42] <snakedoc> fill in the blank
[02:42] <zmanning> hey guys i dont see docky in my DO preferences, what do i need to do to have it available?
[02:42] <[NB]> i dont know how.. im a noob lol
[02:42] <cedeel> apt-get install _________
[02:42] <KingJamesII> mikeyy: that's nice..But do you know how to configure a built in one on a laptop?
[02:43] <snakedoc> me too, i switched in form another distro
[02:43] <Consulta> ok..ok... I am new in UBUNTU, how i can use the comman : ﻿sudo shutdown -P now
[02:43] <cedeel> KingJamesII, which laptop?
[02:43] <snakedoc> go to terminal Consulta
[02:43] <mikeyy> KingJamesII: have you tried taking it out?
[02:43] <leo_rockway> Consulta: open a terminal
[02:43] <mikeyy> all mien are outside
[02:43] <KingJamesII> cedeel: hp dv9819wm
[02:43] <tritium> !conduct | mikeyy
[02:43] <Furu> Hi, im running latest mint version, got a problem with my laptop, the 2cm on the edge of the screen doesnt work. is there  application that lets me resize the whole screen not to use the damaged part?
[02:43] <loveissuicide> consulta: aprieta las teclas ALT+F2 al mismo tiempo
[02:43] <leo_rockway> KingJamesII: don't listen to mikeyy, he is just trolling
[02:43] <cedeel> Consulta, do you know how to open a terminal?
[02:43] <Consulta> where is the terminal?
[02:44] <cedeel> KingJamesII, sorry, I don't know anything about that one
[02:44] <dmphotography> Hey guys, I'm having a tough time getting a hard drive mounted.
[02:44] <loveissuicide> consulta: si oprimes las teclas ALT+F2 al mismo tiempo abres una terminal
[02:44] <KingJamesII> leo_rockway: yeah I figured as such
[02:44] <fearful> Consulta: Application > Accessories > Terminal
[02:44] <dmphotography> Is there an apt that automates this or has a gui?
[02:44] <Turboweevel> Furu, poor screen D:
[02:44] <fearful> Consulta: and type shutdown -h now
[02:44] <cedeel> dmphotography, which fs?
[02:44] <mikeyy> dmphotography: how many hard drives do you have?
[02:44] <fearful> Consulta: sudo shutdown -h now
[02:44] <unkazs> no te apures CONSULTA, creo que no te entiende
[02:44] <cedeel> fearful, not -h
[02:44] <cedeel> fearful, -p
[02:44] <cedeel> fearful, -P
[02:44] <tritium> !es > unkazs
[02:44] <_2> cedeel pm ?
[02:45] <fearful> cedeel: yes excuse me:p
[02:45] <cedeel> sure
[02:45] <dmphotography> etc3, drive name is /dev/sdb1
[02:45] <tritium> loveissuicide: English, please
[02:45] <snakedoc> does anyone know how to get an atheros chip set labeled as "unclaimed" to work with ubuntu 8.10
[02:45] <Consulta> ok ya abri la terminal
[02:45] <leo_rockway> !es | Consulta
[02:45] <cedeel> dmphotography, what command do you use?
[02:45] <dmphotography> It's a storage partition on a drive with one other partition on it.
[02:45] <fearful> constula: type sudo shutdown -P now
[02:45] <Furu> Turboweevel yeah i know but i cant afford to buy a new laptop but its a pain when i cant see what is behiind the damaged part... and is it that complicated to make window abit smaller?
[02:45] <Consulta> ok inglish is so good continue please
[02:46] <Consulta> i need help
[02:46] <loveissuicide> consulta: ahora escribe sudo shutdown -P
[02:46] <unkazs> hello ubotto
[02:46] <dmphotography> cedeel: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -l server-files -o auto,rw ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[02:46] <mikeyy> dmphotography: i bet i have more harddrives that you
[02:46] <mikeyy> im sort of an expert in harddrives
[02:46] <cedeel> dmphotography, and the error?
[02:46] <snakedoc> mikeyy,  shut up
[02:46] <tritium> !es | loveissuicide
[02:46] <ksherdy> how do you turn off system beep in kubuntu? (permanently)
[02:46] <tranceparance> Mikeyy seems to be screwing around
[02:47] <fearful> consulta: did you type that?
[02:47] <leo_rockway> Furu: what edge?
[02:47] <dmphotography> mikeyy: I have several laying around, 7 in my windows PC.
[02:47] <booksbuggy> can anyone just kick him out?
[02:47] <unkazs> can I help you consulta ?
[02:47] <kansan> can someone tell me why mysql wont shut down?  there is no output in /var/log/syslog;  /var/log/mysql/ ....  ubuntu hardy
[02:47] <leo_rockway> ksherdy: which KDE?
[02:47] <dmphotography> Just two in the linux server.
[02:47] <mikeyy> dmphotography: HA I HAVE 8
[02:47] <loveissuicide> ubottu: i think consulta understands better in spanish
[02:47] <tritium> loveissuicide: then take it to the Spanish channel
[02:47] <tranceparance> I second that... think a kick is in order
[02:47] <Furu> leo_rockway: the 2cm on the right side
  that line is half command line, and half fstab'ish
[02:47] <snakedoc> tritium, thank you
[02:47] <tritium> snakedoc: no problem
[02:47] <booksbuggy> well that's a relief
[02:47] <leo_rockway> Furu: is it a widescreen?
[02:47] <dmphotography> mikeyy: You win.  Haha.
 it will error out
[02:47] <Furu> yes
[02:48] <[NB]> snakedoc: run the synaptic package manager, put the ubuntu cd in, click on edit menu>add cdrom, wait for it to get mounted, then press reload button, search for linux-backport-modules
[02:48] <Furu> want the resolution?
[02:48] <dmphotography> _2: yeah, I got half of it from fstab.  I don't know the correct syntax.
[02:48] <snakedoc> tritium, you got power in here. can u please help me. i have something that needs to be done 20 mins ago
[02:48] <snakedoc> [NB], i dont have an optical drive
[02:48] <_2> dmphotography give me a sec,
[02:48] <Scunizi> mikeyy I have more.. the smallest being 6 gigs
[02:48] <tritium> snakedoc: depends on what you need ;)
[02:48] <[NB]> oo sorry D:
[02:48] <leo_rockway> Furu: in my laptop I can go to the BIOS and turn it into a fullscreen, so the sides are not used, see if you have any option like that
[02:48] <booksbuggy> well at least the annoy person is gone
[02:48] <dmphotography> I have a hard time grasping the correct syntax.
[02:48] <booksbuggy> what syntax?
[02:48] <snakedoc> i have an atheros chipset that is labeled as "unclaimed". i need it goin tritium
[02:48] <dmphotography> I follow the arguments, but don't grasp the syntax.
[02:48] <[NB]> without a cdrom or internet access its hard >_<
[02:49] <dmphotography> or directives . . .
[02:49] <booksbuggy> dmphotography, what syntax?
[02:49] <Furu> ah leo u can turn it in to a 4:3?
[02:49] <snakedoc> ik [NB]
[02:49] <tritium> snakedoc: where is it labeled 'unclaimed'?
[02:49] <leo_rockway> Furu: exactly
[02:49] <dmphotography> mounting a drive.
[02:49] <booksbuggy> oh
[02:49] <Consulta> ﻿loveissuicide I wriite it and apear : tiempo esperado
[02:49] <ksherdy> kde not gnome
[02:49] <leo_rockway> Furu: this is a Dell, perhaps you have that option too
[02:49] <fearful> Consulta: mira el PM
[02:49] <snakedoc> when i typed "sudo lshw -c network"
[02:49] <booksbuggy> dmphotography, oh
[02:49] <leo_rockway> ksherdy: which version?
[02:50] <ksherdy> of ubuntu?
[02:50] <[NB]> i had the same problem when i installed the intrepid release.. and then i installed the linix-backport-driver and rebooted and it worked
[02:50] <Javier88> hello, i just bought a pci wifi card.. i installed it in the desktop but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it
[02:50] <Furu> leo_rockway maybe i got a hp, ill check in a little while. but isnt there just a program that let me see like instead of 1280p like maybe 1000p?
[02:50] <_2> dmphotography sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -o realatime -l 'server-files' -t ext3 /<mountpoint>  # but you didn't supply me any mountpoint to put in the <mountpoint> section.   you'll have to translate that part yourself
[02:50] <Javier88> what can i do?
[02:50] <cedeel> Consulta, then try "sudo shutdown -P +1"
[02:50] <Furu> or 1024:P
[02:50] <booksbuggy> Consulta, your problem solved?
[02:50] <snakedoc> when i typed "sudo lshw -c network" tritium
[02:50] <tritium> snakedoc: and the effect is that the proper modules don't get loaded?
[02:51] <dmphotography> _2: Thanks, that will work.  Can you give me a good fstab entry to auto mount it?
[02:51] <loveissuicide> consulta: you can read what does "shutdown" command does if you write at the terminal "man shutdown" (without quotes)
[02:51] <Consulta> but it is going to shutdown in a 1 minute
[02:51] <snakedoc> it wont connect to the internet at all. it doesnt recognize the card. wont connect hardwire or wireless
[02:51] <leo_rockway> Furu: yes, but it will still use the whole screen
[02:51] <_2> dmphotography sec.
[02:51] <timahvo1>  just created a new partition that I want to mount automagically on boot. am guessing I need to change fstab or something.
[02:51] <tritium> snakedoc: which modules support it?  ath_pci?
[02:51] <_2> dmphotography mount it where ?
[02:51] <timahvo1> need pointers
[02:51] <leo_rockway> Furu: the proportion won't be right, it will be stretched, but it will use the whole screen
[02:51] <galvanize> I want to write a code to see whether a file exists or not. Using if statement, but I don't know what to put as the variable for the file(s)? Any help?
[02:51] <Javier88> hello, i just bought a pci wifi card.. i installed it in the desktop but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it, what can i do?
[02:51] <snakedoc> can u dumb that down please tritium
[02:51] <_2> dmphotography what do you want for the mountpoint ?
[02:51] <kwsn> How do I change my hostname?
[02:51] <booksbuggy> well the shutdown thing is some missing lines in the etc/modules text document
[02:52] <Furu> Leo: oki ill try that. or else i will just have to hook it up to a stationary lcd
[02:52] <cedeel> kwsn /etc/hostname
[02:52] <unkazs> someone have configure videoconference with RED5
[02:52] <kansan> can someone tell me why mysql wont shut down?  there is no output in /var/log/syslog;  /var/log/mysql/ ....  ubuntu hardy
[02:52] <booksbuggy> because i got it fixed and now my computer doesn't stop at halt system instead of shutting down
[02:52] <unkazs> ?
[02:52] <tritium> snakedoc: do you know which chipset it is?  If we know that, it'll help us determine if you need ndiswrapper, or if there are kernel modules that support it natively on linux.
[02:52] <kwsn> cedeel: thanks
[02:52] <kansan> can someone tell me why mysql wont shut down?  there is no output in /var/log/syslog;  /var/log/mysql/ ....  ubuntu hardy http://pastie.org/387877 (output of ps -lA | ack mysql)
[02:52] <Furu> leo: thx anyways: gonna reboot and check the bios
[02:52] <snakedoc> ar242x 802.11 abg
[02:52] <fearful> my pidgin seems to be quitting automatically on me any suggestions?
[02:52] <leo_rockway> Furu: no problem, good luck :)
[02:52] <booksbuggy> fearful, you tried xchat?
[02:53] <leo_rockway> fearful: run from terminal to see the error
[02:53] <kwsn> cedeel: take it I have to use sudo to edit?
[02:53] <fearful> im on Xchat for IRC
[02:53] <unkazs> I need to do videoconference on RED5, can anyone help me ?
[02:53] <booksbuggy> oh
[02:53] <Furu> :)
[02:53] <booksbuggy> hmmm then nevermind
[02:53] <booksbuggy> Consulta, your shutdown problem solved?
[02:54] <loveissuicide> consulta has quitted
[02:54] <booksbuggy> oh
[02:54] <Kkoala> can anyone get into my desktop and install this program I have for me so I can see how its done?
[02:54] <_2> dmphotography  /dev/sdb1 /media/server_files ext3 auto,rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[02:54] <cedeel> I guess Consulta's computer did shut down.
[02:54] <booksbuggy> because i found a website with the solution to his exact problem :P
[02:54] <booksbuggy> he's back :P
[02:54] <timahvo1> Kkoala: dude. you high ? thats a no no
[02:55] <_2> dmphotography or,    /dev/sdb1 /media/server_files ext3 defaults,relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[02:55] <cedeel> Consulta, did your computer shut down?
[02:55] <Kkoala> ok
[02:55] <[NB]> i thought remote desktop only worked with local networks o-O
[02:55] <Consulta> yes but thats no the problem
[02:55] <unkazs> see u
[02:55] <snakedoc> tritium, any ideas?
[02:55] <leo_rockway> Kkoala: that's very unsafe for you.
[02:55] <_2> dmphotography sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/server_files  #should mount it just fine.
[02:55] <ksherdy> msg leo_rockway 8.04
[02:56] <booksbuggy> Consulta, i think i know where to go
[02:56] <leo_rockway> ksherdy: yes, what's your KDE version?
[02:56] <tritium> snakedoc: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html (Method 2)
[02:56] <booksbuggy> Consulta, sudo gedit /etc/modules
[02:56] <ksherdy> sorry how do i figure that out?
[02:56] <[NB]> snakedoc: check these out too http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[02:56] <booksbuggy> Consulta, and then add this line"apm power_off=1"
[02:56] <timahvo1> Kkoala: what are you trying to install?
[02:56] <_2>          does anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[02:56] <leo_rockway> ksherdy: open Konqueror and go to About KDE
[02:56] <booksbuggy> Consulta, do the first line in terminal
[02:56] <booksbuggy> Consulta, then a text document should open
[02:57] <Kkoala> /home/stefan/Desktop/aiotrade-bin-1.0.3a.zip
[02:57] <booksbuggy> Consulta, and add the line of code into the place
[02:57] <booksbuggy> Consulta, make a new line
[02:57] <Kkoala> just started with ubuntu
[02:57] <leo_rockway> _2: I don't know how it's done, but I think it's different for different drivers.
[02:57] <booksbuggy> Consulta, i got the exact same problem before
[02:57] <chris8> hey room -- help a n006?  Just got laptop delivered pre-installed Vista <eeks!> wonderin how to format the harddrive?
[02:57] <Consulta> ok letme try, please be patience I am new in this
[02:57] <leo_rockway> Kkoala: it's not in the repos?
[02:57] <_2> leo_rockway ok. ty
[02:57] <dmphotography> _2: that last mount syntax worked.
[02:58] <Kkoala> could find it
[02:58] <booksbuggy> Consulta, go ahead :D
[02:58] <timahvo1> Kkoala: you need to extract it first (unzip)
[02:58] <cedeel> chris8, the installer will do that for you
[02:58] <booksbuggy> Consulta, i just started about 1 year ago :P
[02:58] <dmphotography> _2: The previous two you mentioned were for the fstab entry, correct?
[02:58] <Kkoala> I mean couldnt find it
[02:58] <fearful> Chris8: Do you want to install ubuntu fully?
[02:58] <snakedoc> tritium, i cant use that method. i cant get internet on that machine
[02:58] <tritium> [NB]: yes, that's what method 2 on that URL recomends
[02:58] <MikeonTV> I d/led the new 8.10 version from bittorrent and I want to burn  a bootable disc image but the download only contained the files and not the .iso
[02:58] <chris8> HAHAHA are you serious!?!?!?!? AWESOME I LOVE LINUX!~!!!
[02:58] <chris8> hahahaahah
[02:58] <chris8> thanks tha's so cool
[02:58] <chris8> hahahahaah
[02:58] <tritium> snakedoc: not temporarily with ethernet?
[02:58] <FloodBot1> chris8: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <_2> dmphotography yes
[02:58] <Kkoala> then I end up with a bunch a folders
[02:58] <snakedoc> not even with that tritium
[02:58] <[NB]> :D\
[02:58] <leo_rockway> ksherdy: keep the conversation in the main chat, please. The main chat is indexed.
[02:58] <ksherdy> ok
[02:58] <booksbuggy> Consulta, note don't add that quotation mark into the document
[02:59] <fearful> leo_rockway the terminal is not showing anything, while its running will it show something when the error occurs?
[02:59] <tritium> snakedoc: you could download the packages on another machine, and sneakernet them over to the ubuntu machine
[02:59] <[NB]> chris8: you could try a wubi install and dual boot
[02:59] <Kkoala> Ii don't know how to get it running after i unzip
[02:59] <cedeel> MikeonTV, then you got the wrong torrent
[02:59] <snakedoc> sneakernet?
[02:59] <dmphotography> _2: Ok.  It doesn't need to be anything special.  Just to be mounted as a read/write drive and preferrably labeled as server_files.
[02:59] <_2> dmphotography and if you wnat to change the lable use tune2fs -l "new lable" /dev/sdb1
[02:59] <Phillis> can anyone please help me to get my wireless internet to work? i want to learn how...
[02:59] <dmphotography> LOL.
[02:59] <Consulta> where is ﻿Consulta, sudo gedit /etc/modules
[02:59] <tritium> snakedoc: by foot ;)
[02:59] <fearful> phillips: whats the problem
[02:59] <leo_rockway> fearful: maybe, I don't know how Pidgin works but most apps leave an error message when something goes wrong.
[02:59] <snakedoc> lol gotcha
[02:59] <booksbuggy> Consulta, open a terminal
[02:59] <snakedoc> so how do i dl them on a windows machine
[03:00] <MikeonTV> cedeel; so what can I do to boot this?
[03:00] <snakedoc> thats all i got working right now
[03:00] <tritium> snakedoc: e.g., with a USB stick, or something similar
[03:00] <Phillis> it won't recognise the router
[03:00] <timahvo1> Kkoala: what is it anyway? never heard of it
[03:00] <fearful> leo_rockway what do you recommend other than pidgin
[03:00] <loveissuicide> how can i transfer my videos to my ipod? I tried rythmbox but it doesn't work
[03:00] <Consulta> ok its open
[03:00] <Javier88> hello, i just bought a pci wifi card.. i installed it in the desktop but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it, what can i do?
[03:00] <cedeel> MikeonTV, do you have a fast internet connection?
[03:00] <fearful> leo_rockway for msn/aim
[03:00] <leo_rockway> fearful: I use Kopete, but I use KDE
[03:00] <orudie> does anyone know of any text editor with highliting for windows?
[03:00] <fearful> leo_rockway ah i see
[03:00] <tritium> orudie: that's offtopic
[03:01] <Kkoala> its a program to track a evaluate stock
[03:01] <_2> orudie isn't ##windows the proper place for that Q ?
[03:01] <[NB]> javier88: find out what model/company the pci card is first
[03:01] <Kkoala> thats all I know about it
[03:01] <leo_rockway> ksherdy: go to system settings > notifications > system bell
[03:01] <tritium> snakedoc: good luck!  Dinner time...
[03:01] <snakedoc> thanks for all your help tritium
[03:01] <cedeel> MikeonTV, either http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[03:02] <MikeonTV> cedeel, I'm sorry. I realize that I did download the correct file. I was being stupid and opened it
[03:02] <MikeonTV> heheh
[03:02] <MikeonTV> thanks
[03:02] <tritium> snakedoc: any time!  :)
[03:02] <Kkoala> I'll   unpack it now and show you where and what if you have time
[03:02] <ksherdy> ahhh, thanks
[03:02] <cedeel> MikeonTV, open it w/ your burn app..
[03:03] <Kkoala> I sure would like to do the install..............
[03:03] <timahvo1> Kkoala: don't ever give anyone access to your system especially not on irc
[03:03] <loveissuicide> is there some way to make faster open office, I love ubuntu but i find open office frustating
[03:03] <snakedoc> atheros chipset, need it working. ubuntu 8.10. need some way. help please
[03:03] <Kkoala> all right
[03:03] <xiaopi> loveissuicide, do you have OpenOffice 3 already?
[03:03] <Javier88> hello, i just bought a pci wifi card(d-link DWA-510).. i installed it in the computer but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it, what can i do?
[03:03] <cedeel> use abiword and gnumeric..
[03:04] <loveissuicide> xiaopi: no, 2.4
[03:04] <campbell> I have a quick question about apt that I bet someone here could answer easily: what command would I run to determine the packages currently installed?
[03:04] <Kkoala> can I get help to the install here or is there a more appropriate channel
[03:04] <loveissuicide> xiaopi: is 3 much more faster?
[03:04] <xiaopi> loveissuicide, Upgrade to 3 :) It's way faster for me
[03:04] <cedeel> campbell, man apt-get
[03:04] <timahvo1> Kkoala: says on the download page it needs jre. do you have java installed ?
[03:04] <cedeel> or man apt-cache
[03:04] <loveissuicide> xiaopi: ok
[03:05] <joshjtl> hi
[03:05] <Kkoala> I think so
[03:05] <leo_rockway> loveissuicide: you can also try GNU Office (Abiword and GNUmeric)
[03:05] <Kkoala> how do I find out
[03:05] <gnutron> campbell: dpkg -l in a terminal
[03:05] <leo_rockway> campbell: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstalled
[03:06] <timahvo1> Kkoala: after unziping it do you see a README or INSTALL file anywhere?
[03:06] <cedeel> Kkoala, what exactly troubles you?
[03:06] <timahvo1> should be there
[03:06] <loveissuicide> does abiword and gnumeric support office files? i wouldn't care the format but sometimes i have to work with these files
[03:06] <campbell> leo_rockway: just what I was looking for; thanks everyone
[03:06] <xiaopi> loveissuicide, "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main"
[03:06] <dmphotography> What program is used to search notes on linux?  In other words, I can search for a word or phrase in text files in the same directory. .
[03:06] <Kkoala> the readme is more about license and no install file
[03:06] <Kkoala> I'll unzip
[03:06] <leo_rockway> campbell: sorry, it's deinstall not deinstalled
[03:07] <loveissuicide> xiaopi: thanks!
[03:07] <dmphotography> Does anyone use anything like that?
[03:07] <xiaopi> loveissuicide, if you share with people using last Office2007 files, you'll often be stuck unless OpenOffice3 (GNUmeric just doesn't do the job with excel 2007 files for ex)
[03:07] <Kkoala> I have the dir and a bunch of folders within
[03:07] <leo_rockway> loveissuicide: for .doc files you can try antidoc
[03:07] <Kkoala> no readme or install
[03:07] <ghang> hi
[03:07] <_2> dmphotography grep
[03:07] <ghang> my open office very lag , what going on , i have set the memory
[03:08] <dmphotography> _2: Thanks again!
[03:08] <leo_rockway> dmphotography: grep "what you are looking for" file
[03:08] <timahvo1> Kkoala: lemmie have a go. gimme a minute
[03:08] <_2> dmphotography man grep    it's pretty complex and quite powerful
[03:08] <Kkoala> thanks
[03:08] <dmphotography> Uh oh.
[03:08] <ghang> :( is it too high require for computer? openoffice very lag , have set the memory already, my computer is 1Ghz 1.5RAM, why so lag
[03:08] <dmphotography> Complex?  LOL.
[03:08] <_2> dmphotography yes.
[03:08] <loveissuicide> I don't know much but I think java is not a good platform to develop an office suite
[03:09] <loveissuicide> I find some applications ver laggy when they are based on java, am I right?
[03:09] <taz> hello fearful ?
[03:09] <dmphotography> No GUI either huh?
[03:09] <fearful> taz hello
[03:09] <xiaopi> ghang, just upgrade to OpenOffice3 like I told loveissuicide 5min ago if you didn't do it yet, huge improvements
[03:09] <_2> dmphotography all proficent linux guru's use grep extensively.   you should take the time to learn at least the basics
[03:10] <taz> hello fearful  ... still same promble with java and i try find where the problmes ??
[03:10] <timahvo1> Kkoala: blogtrader or something ?
[03:10] <loveissuicide> xiaopi: yes i know, i am doing that right now, i am only expressing some thoughts
[03:10] <Kkoala> aiotrade
[03:10] <dmphotography> _2: Alright.  Or take the time to learn how to write a bunch of gui's for all of these programs.
[03:10] <Kkoala> it thought that is the newest
[03:10] <dmphotography> Make life easier.
[03:10] <floatboat> what can i do about this error: http://dpaste.com/119971/
[03:10] <Kkoala> of the two
[03:11] <Kkoala> I can send it to you
[03:11] <xiaopi> I was telling ghang who just asked the same for it ;)
[03:11] <fearful> taz you can't go to check version still
[03:11] <loveissuicide> xiaopi: sorry
[03:11] <Kkoala> then again...........
[03:11] <timahvo1> Kkoala: paste the download link here
[03:11] <taz> fearful:   check in terminal ??
[03:11] <fearful> no on the website
[03:12] <Kkoala> one min
[03:12] <_2> dmphotography one example for you.   grep -HiRe '^and' ./somedir/   # that will search all files recursively for lines that begin with "and" (case insensitive) and display the filename with the line/s it finds.
[03:12] <fearful> whats the command to view the drivers? i forget
[03:12] <floatboat> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12910 Feb 12 22:10 /var/lib/ntop/prefsCache.db
[03:12] <_2> dmphotography like i said it's a powerful tool
[03:13] <dmphotography> _2: Thank you very much.  I'm looking at the man for it now.
[03:13] <Kkoala> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=152032&package_id=211726&release_id=487054
[03:13] <Kkoala> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/humaitrader/aiotrade-bin-1.0.3a.zip?modtime=1171689239&big_mirror=0
[03:14] <ghang> xiaopi , thanks , i will do it
[03:14] <timahvo1> Kkoala: ok will get back to you soon
[03:14] <ghang> i am using 2.5 lol , i will try it now
[03:14] <Kkoala> ok
[03:14] <Kkoala> great
[03:15] <booksbuggy> hmmm i wonder if Consulta fully read my message
[03:15] <taz> fearful: java version "1.6.0_0"
[03:15] <taz> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6.1) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[03:15] <taz> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
[03:15] <fearful> on the website?
[03:15] <fearful> taz on the website
[03:15] <bullgard4> What does mean "given a pathname for a file" in man 2 open? Does it exactly mean "You need to put in a pathname in the C function 'int open(const char *pathname, int flags);' in order that the C function open returns the associated file descriptor for the file whose path I have put in? Or what does "Given a pathname for a file" mean exactly here?
[03:15] <Kkoala> how do i find if I have jre installed
[03:15] <fearful> kkoala java -version on the terminal
[03:15] <Furu> leo_rockway nope my laptop didnt have that. now i changed my resolution to 756x546 and now i cant change back
[03:15] <Furu> :P
[03:15] <taz> fearful: i got it from tererminal
[03:15] <sophia> #sdl
[03:16] <booksbuggy> because after entering the code the computer will still stuck at halt for one last time then it will shut down automatically
[03:16] <Furu> I changed my resolution to 756x546 and now i cant change back:P anyone got any idea why?
[03:16] <booksbuggy> after that shutdown
[03:16] <Kkoala> java version "1.6.0_0"
[03:16] <Kkoala> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6.1) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[03:16] <Kkoala> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
[03:16] <booksbuggy> hmmm
[03:17] <Kkoala> is that it
[03:17] <taz> fearful: java version "1.6.0_0"
[03:17] <taz> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6.1) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[03:17] <taz> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
[03:17] <booksbuggy> I bet Consulta will rage back if he didn't fully read my message
[03:18] <sophia> anyone knows abt sdl firefox player?
[03:18] <fearful> taz http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[03:18] <sigma92> hey guys, i'm trying to get more information about my desktop's power usage using acpi -V. Unfortunately the temperature reading is always 40 C (it's not in reality) and it doesn't display power usage. do i ahve to do something...?
[03:18] <taz> fearful: Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
[03:18] <taz> Your Java version is 1.6.0_0. Please click the button below to get the recommended Java for your
[03:19] <sigma92> also powertop doesn't work right
[03:19] <O__o> is there a windows version of Nautilus?
[03:19] <fearful> taz well lol I get the same message, ok lets try another way to test
[03:19] <_2> sigma92 might install lm-sensors - utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors
[03:19] <taz> fearful : ok
[03:19] <[NB]> u could do that with conky too
[03:20] <sigma92> is that in the repos?
[03:20] <_2> sigma92 yes,   then run sensors-detect
[03:20] <booksbuggy> hmmm i think Consulta didn't fully read my message
[03:21] <sigma92> what's sensors-detect do
[03:21] <_2> sigma92 it will help you find what modules you may need to add to /etc/modules  to get all that working properly.    at least that's the old school way
[03:21] <fearful> taz check somewhere if its working
[03:21] <taz> fearful: how ?
[03:21] <sigma92> _2:  thanks!
[03:21] <fearful> taz I don't understand what your issue is here, test if your problem is fixed..
[03:22] <_2> sigma92 welcome
[03:22] <sigma92> _2: is that stuff automatically installed on lappies?
[03:22] <taz> only cant play in www.pogo.com
[03:22] <sandeep> what to now that I have lm - sensors?
[03:22] <_2> sigma92 not that i am aware of
[03:22] <sigma92> oh
[03:22] <_2> sandeep run   sensors-detect
[03:22] <loveissuicide>  isn't any support for blu ray yet?
[03:23] <_2> i would hope so
[03:23] <sandeep> thanks!!!!!!!!!!
[03:23] <taz> fearful:   maybe block something like that ???
[03:24] <fearful> taz yes but, what are you trying to do that you say its not working, are you trying to access something with java on firefox?
[03:24] <booksbuggy> well he didn't fully read my instructions XD
[03:24] <snakedoc> tritium, still gone?
[03:24] <tritium> snakedoc: I'm back
[03:25] <taz> yes ..it wouldnt me to play games
[03:25] <snakedoc> ok, i got the compat wireless on the other machine, the ubuntu one
[03:25] <snakedoc> and i got it to do something
[03:25] <Kkoala> and my other question is how do i mount my usb stick
[03:26] <snakedoc> i think it may be working
[03:26] <snakedoc> i just was wondering if u were here in case not
[03:26] <tritium> snakedoc: ok, that sounds encouraging
[03:26] <Draken> is there a easy way to share my printer thats runnin ubuntu on a network so my pc running windows can print to it?
[03:26] <_2> Kkoala sudo mount /dev/sdb? /mnt
[03:26] <papna> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases claims that Jaunty will have Pidgin 2.6, which is bogus (that may or may not exist by April, if nothing else). Is there someone who knows what software Jaunty will include who can correct the list in the article?
[03:26] <taz> fearful: it said java need download
[03:26] <Kkoala> thanks
[03:26] <_2> !cups | Draken
[03:26] <Draken> thanks
[03:27] <snakedoc> tritium, it says "now run:         make unload          and then load the wireless module you need. if unsure reboot."
[03:27] <_2> welcome, welcome, welcome.
[03:27] <fearful> taz in firefox go to Edit > Preferences > Content and check if java is enabled please
[03:27] <chris8> hey room -- help installing ubuntu 8.X off CD... stuck on (initramfs) command prompt :S
[03:27] <tritium> snakedoc: is there a question following that?
[03:27] <[NB]> chris8: i had the same problem.. happens on every compaq laptop <_<
[03:27] <booksbuggy> hmmm i wonder if Consulta's computer is god
[03:28] <blizzle> chris4585, What happens if you type: exit
[03:28] <booksbuggy> good
[03:28] <snakedoc> yeah tritium what do i do
[03:28] <taz> fearful: ok i will check it
[03:28] <snakedoc> do i make it run something or do i reboot?
[03:28] <chris8> {NB} so what i do?!? pray?
[03:28] <tritium> snakedoc: follow the instructions of Method 2.  I don't recall them, step-for-step.
[03:28] <blizzle> chris4585, What happens if you type: exit ?
[03:28] <chris8> it came preloaded with Vista <barf>
[03:28] <[NB]> chris8: nope.. i never solved the problem >_<
[03:29] <snakedoc> tritium, i was doing 1
[03:29] <blizzle> chris4585, Sometimes exit can restart te boot process.
[03:29] <_2> so, i have this laptop, (toshiba satalite a135) and i plug this monitor in,(older dell crt 17") and xorg goes to smacken blitzr.    does anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[03:29] <tritium> snakedoc: no, I advised you to follow method 2
[03:29] <snakedoc> crap
[03:29] <snakedoc> missed that part
[03:29] <_2> tritium  ^  ?
[03:30] <TheMusicGuy> I have a theoretical question.
[03:30] <tritium> snakedoc: it's up to you, ultimately.
[03:30] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: hey I got disconnected. did you get sorted ?
[03:30] <sophia> anyone knows abt SDL firefox browser?
[03:30] <tritium> _2: yes?
[03:30] <snakedoc> lemme reboot it see if it fixed
[03:30] <_2> so, i have this laptop, (toshiba satalite a135) and i plug this monitor in,(older dell crt 17") and xorg goes to smacken blitzr.    does anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[03:30] <Kkoala> no
[03:30] <Kkoala> waiting for yours
[03:30] <Consulta> it work
[03:30] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: hey I got disconnected. did you get sorted ?
[03:30] <booksbuggy> worked?
[03:30] <xnevermore> What sort of themes are those listed in System->Preferences->Appearance (i.e. what do I look for on gnome-look.org to install a new one)?
[03:30] <fearful> consulta the shutdown?
[03:30] <TheMusicGuy> would it be possible to make a panel that hides itself whenever it has a window list with less than 2 windows in it?
[03:30] <taz> fearful: yes it already mark in the box
[03:30] <snakedoc> then worst case scenario, i start from scratch and do method 2
[03:31] <tritium> snakedoc: if you choose to use method 2 instead, please "sudo make unload && sud make uninstall"
[03:31] <aex> ﻿when i sudo one time and exit, it takes too long to ask again for password next time i run sudo, why is that
[03:31] <sigma92> _2: so i installed lm-sensors and did sensors detect and it added the modules, i rebooted, acpi -V still reports 40 celsius
[03:31] <sigma92> and powertop still doesn't work
[03:31] <fearful> taz can you check in another site with java if it is working
[03:31] <taz> fearful: ok
[03:31] <blizzle> xnevermore, You want gtk themes in all probability.
[03:31] <_2> sigma92 woops.
[03:31] <sophia> #firefox
[03:31] <tritium> snakedoc: if you unload and uninstall, you can safely proceed to method 2
[03:32] <sigma92> _2: no i'm sure you were on the right track, it loaded a coretemp module that wasn't before
[03:32] <_2> sigma92 that's the full extent of my knowledge on that point.
[03:32] <snakedoc> its finishing the reboot right now. im guna see if it worked
[03:32] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: were you helped ?
[03:32] <Kkoala> no
[03:32] <_2> sigma92 sorry it didn't do for you what it did for me.
[03:32] <Chris8> Someone help me install Ubuntu on my new shitty laptop?
[03:33] <[NB]> chris8: use the intrepid release
[03:33] <sigma92> that's okay
[03:33] <timahvo1_> Kk my link is bad so I can't down it but this is what to do...
[03:33] <jbmigel> Chris8 w00t put the disk in and reboot!
[03:33] <sigma92> does anyone know how to make java fonts (like in openoffice) match the fonts of my gtk theme?
[03:33] <Chris8> it stalls halfway through boot up
[03:33] <tritium> Chris8: language, please
[03:33] <snakedoc> tritium,
[03:33] <Chris8> smooch sorry
[03:33] <[NB]> its beta but it has better compatibility than the stable ones
[03:33] <snakedoc> dare i say
[03:33] <snakedoc> I LOVE YOU
[03:33] <FloodBot1> snakedoc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <Kkoala> did that program disconnect you
[03:33] <tritium> snakedoc: it worked?
[03:33] <snakedoc> it did it did
[03:33] <Chris8> intrepid you say... yeah there a lot new bunch versions eh?
[03:33] <tritium> snakedoc: I'm glad :)
[03:34] <Chris8> NB what specialize intrepid?
[03:34] <snakedoc> thank you very much sir. i owe you.
[03:34] <timahvo1_> Kkoala:after unziping do chmod a+x aiotrade.bin
[03:34] <tritium> snakedoc: no problem at all
[03:34] <snakedoc> while i have you, real quick
[03:34] <galvanize> wondering if someone could give me a hand with writing a script?
[03:34] <jbmigel> Chris8 you think maybe it's X crashing or whats going on eh?
[03:34] <blizzle> Chris8, If your laptop is "shitty" you might want to consider installing Xubuntu 8.10 desktop version.
[03:34] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: then type ./aiotrade.bin
[03:34] <snakedoc> what version of skype do i use with ubuntu, i was using a fedora distro b4 so idk what to use
[03:34] <TheMusicGuy> does anybody else have a randomly-crashing X server in Intrepid?
[03:34] <[NB]> intrepid = ubuntu 8.10 2.6.27-7 or something like that
[03:34] <Kkoala> ?
[03:34] <Chris8> i only disparage laptop cuz it came with Vista on it
[03:35] <blizzle> snakedoc, Add the official Skype repository via Synaptic. Job done.
[03:35] <Kkoala> i type that in the terminal?
[03:35] <Chris8> not sure why the 8.X isn't taking
[03:35] <tritium> !skype | snakedoc
[03:35] <Chris8> can install Intrepid online?
[03:35] <tritium> snakedoc: see above
[03:35] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: yes
[03:35] <blizzle> Chris8, Did you try typing exit at the initramfs prompt?
[03:35] <Chris8> na
[03:35] <Chris8> :P
[03:35] <jbmigel> Chris8 you cant tell anything about whats going on when it stalls?
[03:36] <blizzle> Chris8, Try it, sometimes it can kickstart the boot.
[03:36] <skeletal> guys, i need see movie RMVW but my real player dosn't work. Is there some other software?
[03:36] <Chris8> thanks will try
[03:36] <Chris8> it appears to run three commands
[03:36] <Chris8> and then leaves me at a command prompt (initramfs)
[03:37] <Chris8> what is OEM install?
[03:37] <blizzle> Chris8, That's for system builders.
[03:37] <Chris8> Overwrite existing memory? :P
[03:37] <_2> origenal equiptment manufacturor
[03:37] <tritium> snakedoc: did you see the above?
[03:38] <snakedoc> ya
[03:38] <blizzle> Chris8, Sure, overwrite existing memory, if it's asking you that.
[03:38] <Chris8> hey while i'm here... anyone know best linux music suite, engineer music etc?
[03:38] <[NB]> o-O
[03:38] <_2>      one more time,,,  i have this laptop, (toshiba satalite a135) and i plug this monitor in,(older dell crt 17") and xorg goes to smacken blitzr.    does anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[03:38] <_2> ?
[03:39] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: got it?
[03:39] <skeletal> guys?
[03:39] <snakedoc> tritium, it keeps giving me dependancy is not satisfiable:libqt4-core
[03:39] <skeletal> how can I download a mplayer?
[03:39] <jbmigel> _2 ive done that kind of thing before a long time ago... maybe i can help
[03:39] <Commie_Cary> why do I have no sound in savage 2
[03:39] <Chris8> hmmm exit no help...
[03:39] <Kkoala> stefan@stefan-laptop:~/aiotrade$ chmod a+x aiotrade.bin
[03:39] <Kkoala> chmod: cannot access `aiotrade.bin': No such file or directory
[03:39] <Chris8> Busybox ver 1.1X of something
[03:39] <jbmigel> _2 do you know what version of ubuntu you're using?
[03:39] <_2> jbmigel glad for any thoughts on the matter.
[03:40] <Kkoala> there is a bin dir
[03:40] <blizzle> _2: http://navetz.com/v/132/Simple-dual-monitor-setup-with-XrandR-in-Ubuntu-Linux & http://arulanandan.blogspot.com/2008/03/configuring-dual-monitor-on-ubuntu-710.html
[03:40] <tritium> snakedoc: you downloaded the .deb?
[03:40] <_2> jbmigel don't run me out of the channel for it.    it's debian lenny
[03:40] <Chris8> maybe hafta install GNU?
[03:40] <Dexi> How do i change from OSS to ALSA?
[03:40] <snakedoc> yes i did
[03:40] <blizzle> _2: Google is your friend. I suspect you haven't looked. :)
[03:40] <tritium> Dexi: ubuntu uses alsa by default
[03:40] <sandeep> anyone using any CBT stuff for learning?
[03:40] <Dexi> tritium: apparently not
[03:40] <Kkoala> here is whats in it
[03:40] <Kkoala> stefan@stefan-laptop:~/aiotrade$ dir bin
[03:40] <Kkoala> aiotrade  aiotrade.exe	aiotrade_w.exe
[03:41] <baz> is it possible to ssh into a specific folder?
[03:41] <tritium> Dexi: it does.  cat /proc/asound/version
[03:41] <PorkSoda> Any one notice firefox/flash crashing apps that use sound? amarok/totem etc?
[03:41] <Sjimmie> baz: if you ssh into a server it will take you into the home directory of the user that you used to logon with
[03:41] <tritium> snakedoc: please use my nick so I see your responses
[03:41] <snakedoc> tritium, there are 2 .deb and i tried both with the same issues
[03:41] <jbmigel> _2 hmm ok so after you plug in the monitor does it mess up right away or do you have to hit FunC-F2 or whatever to turn it on first
[03:42] <PorkSoda> I have the problem on 2 boxes, anr tried reinstalling flash, but I'm wondering if any one has a fix for it.
[03:42] <Dexi> tritium: system>prefernces>sound: Playback "MY Card (OSS)" Music and Movies "My Card (OSS)"
[03:42] <tritium> snakedoc: if you use the graphical file manager (called nautilus), double-click the .deb, and it should open it in gdebi, which will automatically resolve the dependencies
[03:42] <_2> jbmigel it's hosed at once
[03:42] <JPSman> where can I find a chat about more advanced matters, like capturing the data from the USB drawing pad I have that plugs into my virtualbox windows to create a driver for linux?
[03:43] <_2> jbmigel it's really odd,  it worked the very first time, then after that kablamb
[03:43] <blizzle> JPSman, If it's a wacom pad, linux drivers are already available and should be available.
[03:43] <[NB]> JPSman: ubuntu forums? :D
[03:44] <[NB]> anyone know where i could find a preconfigured blackbox
[03:44] <snakedoc> tritium, i opened where the file is saved. now what?
[03:44] <sigma92> does anyone know how to make java fonts (like in openoffice) match the fonts of my gtk theme?
[03:44] <tritium> !sound | Dexi, have you followed this?
[03:44] <jbmigel> _2 ya lots of crazy things can go wrong with monitors... have you put any special settings in your xorg.conf for it yet?
[03:44] <tritium> snakedoc: Places -> Home Folder, navigate to the .deb, and double-click it
[03:44] <x0t> hola alguien ke me pueda ayudar
[03:44] <x0t> _
[03:45] <snakedoc> tritium, still comes up with the dependacy issues
[03:45] <Dexi> tritium: Alsa Mixer is selected there
[03:45] <Kkoala> hi can anyone help with an install
[03:45] <_2> jbmigel no. i even tried removing xorg.conf   no help    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   no help.
[03:45] <redline5653> is anyone here?
[03:46] <baz> Sjimmie, ah i see, and there is no option to override that in any way to catapult me right into a folder i always go to immedietly?
[03:46] <genii-around> Quite a few anyones
[03:46] <amarcy2> im having issues with FN keys on a sony laptop...can somebody PM me pleaseeee
[03:46] <amarcy2> please please :(
[03:46] <timahvo1> Kkoala: sorry but my connection is really bad. maybe someone else can help
[03:46] <Kkoala> alright
[03:46] <tritium> snakedoc: just the one dependency?  Was it opened in gdebi?
[03:46] <Kkoala> thanks for your time
[03:46] <timahvo1> Kkoala: good luck
[03:46] <Comma_Doo> oy
[03:47] <redline5653> can somone help me i'm trying to install ubuntu but my cd drive wont read any cd's
[03:47] <snakedoc> it was opened in something that said package installer tritium
[03:47] <amarcy2> u try booting usb?
[03:47] <Rafael_> i have software raid on ubuntu server, i have test it multiple ways and it works beatifull. something very strange i have notice: very often the raid goes into degrade mode and one of the drive disapers, i thoight was a physical problem wth the drive, i have test all the 3 drives with Western Digital softare and drive are fine, is this a now issue with software raid
[03:47] <Comma_Doo> oy
[03:47] <Comma_Doo> oy
[03:47] <Comma_Doo> oy
[03:47] <_2> blizzle i "rechecked" the docs you posted.  no help.
[03:47] <amarcy2> make ur usb bootable
[03:47] <FloodBot1> Comma_Doo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <tritium> snakedoc: you can manually install it, then (sudo apt-get install libqt4-core)
[03:48] <redline5653> i dont have a usb :( im trying to find out if i can somehow mount the image and install whiile in windows
[03:48] <amarcy2> somebody PM me i need help with keyboard mapping
[03:48] <floatboat> can someone help me use ntop
[03:48] <amarcy2> either need cd rom or usb buddy
[03:48] <snakedoc> tritium, it says it cant find the package
[03:48] <amarcy2> cant do it any other way
[03:48] <jbmigel> _2 i think lenny uses xrandr now to autoset all those kinds of video settings... so you dont actually have to do anything in xorg
[03:48] <redline5653> :(
[03:49] <_2> jbmigel i'll have to do something,  cause it isn't working the way it is.
[03:49] <tritium> snakedoc: sounds like you don't have an updated package list.  Can you please "sudo apt-get update", and then try to install the .deb again?
[03:49] <jbmigel> _2 I found a reasonable looking how-to for xrandr on debian lenny, im pretty sure if you work your way through this you will figure it out http://www.jejik.com/articles/2008/10/setting_up_dual_monitors_system-wide_with_xrandr_on_debian_lenny/
[03:49] <amarcy2> this really sucks you in
[03:49] <amarcy2> peace out
[03:49] <snakedoc> on it tritium
[03:49] <baz> the command *find* seems to cycle thru every directory without filtering for my string, why is that? My command is: find / ssh
[03:49] <_2> jbmigel and yes lenny is contemporary with intrepid
[03:50] <_2> jbmigel i'm looking.
[03:51] <_2> baz because the syntax is wrong
[03:51] <_2> baz   find / -iname ssh
[03:51] <redline5653> what about if i make a boot floppy and have the files/cd somewhere on my hdd?
[03:51] <Rafael_> any help with raid?
[03:53] <baz> _2, that returns "Usage: find [PATH...] [EXPRESSION]" hinting that that syntax is no good either... or is that what happens if nothing is found?
[03:53] <bullgard4> [Symmetrical Multiprocessing, SMP]: Is there a tool that shows if an application program uses both processors on a particular two-processor SMP machine?
[03:54] <_2> baz there was nothing wrong with the syntax i posted.   do you have an ssh/ dir in the pwd ?
[03:54] <yeoj___> if i need to add a tweak to my touchpad device, and i dont have a "InputDevice" section in my xorg.conf, how does it know what input device i want to modify?  I'm trying to disable "Tap to click" on my macbook pro
[03:54] <_2> baz post the full command you used in here.
[03:54] <yeoj___> i hvaen't used linux since i use to write my own xorg.conf's
[03:55] <tritium> snakedoc: I'm about to head to bed.  Any progress?
[03:55] <baz> _2, i just used what u gave me, was I supposed to know more :) >> find / -iname ssh
[03:55] <snakedoc> it worked tritium but now its messed up
[03:55] <_2> baz and that errored out ?
[03:56] <snakedoc> the audio feedbad wont work
[03:56] <Kkoala> if someone has the time i would like to install some software and need help with this
[03:56] <ranok> oh boy, my new computer is going to fly with Xubuntu on it
[03:56] <redline5653> would i be able to make a boot floppy to install from files on hdd?
[03:56] <soreau> yeoj___: X will still respect xorg.conf settings even though it auto detects well enough to not require one now
[03:56] <JPSman> blizzle, [NB] - its a AIPTEK board.  I'll look, thanx
[03:56] <baz> _2, yeah i just ran it again after doing cd /... to be exact the response is: "BusyBox v1.1.0 (2008.11.10-03:26+0000) multi-call binary" and then on the following line "Usage: find [PATH...] [EXPRESSION]"
[03:57] <yeoj___> soreau, but how does it know i'm referring to my touchpad and not my... other input device/etc?  I just need to put Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
[03:57] <soreau> Kkoala: You will have to ask a more specific question than that
[03:57] <chu_> Does anyone have experience with laptop's "special" keys? Like, this Fn key combinations used for asus laptops etc?
[03:57] <soreau> yeoj___: Just do it how you would usually do it?
[03:57] <_2> baz  oh busybox.    i have no idea what kind of psyudo find command they built into your busybox shell.
[03:57] <snakedoc> tritium,  i keep getting problem with audio playback
[03:57] <snakedoc> ideas?
[03:57] <baz> _2, oh actually i just realized that this is on my NAS which is most likely not running ubuntu - but isn't *find* a basic command
[03:57] <mib_ytomitbs> Hey, can anyone assist me with getting my ATI card to work?
[03:58] <mib_ytomitbs> I am rather desperate.
[03:58] <Kkoala> its a program
[03:58] <baz> _2, how can i know what distro is on that machine
[03:58] <Myrth> hi, what is the application that monitors which appication connects to what in real time?
[03:58] <mib_ytomitbs> Please?
[03:58] <soreau> yeoj___: You may have to create the section if it isn't already present in the conf file
[03:58] <Kkoala> i unzipped it and don't know what to do next as I am new at ubuntu
[03:58] <_2> baz  find is a basic gnu command,  but you don't have find  you have a symlink named find pointing to busybox
[03:58] <soreau> Kkoala: Which program?
[03:58] <mib_ytomitbs> Anyone?
[03:59] <Kkoala> aiotrade
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> : \
[03:59] <chu_> what's your problem mib_?
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> Well.
[03:59] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: Sure. Go to #compiz-fusion and ask
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> I have an ATI x1650
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> Its not a compiz issue
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> I'm not trying to run compiz
[03:59] <FloodBot1> mib_ytomitbs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:59] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: Which version of ubuntu?
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> 8.04, but I'm going to update to 8.10
[04:00] <_2> baz  from that busybox shell,   i have no clue.   there are too many variables for that to have an answer.   reminds me of the joke "Q. what is the differance between a duck?   A. one leg is both the same!"
[04:00] <mib_ytomitbs> My issue is, I have dual monitors.
[04:00] <tritium> snakedoc: no, sorry
[04:00] <snakedoc> got it tritium
[04:00] <Sjimmie> baz: sure there is, adjust your homedirectory by either modifying your /etc/passwd directly or using usermod
[04:00] <snakedoc> just had the wrong input/output
[04:00] <mib_ytomitbs> And, everything is so screwed up.
[04:00] <mib_ytomitbs> The max resolution for both screens is 640x400
[04:00] <tritium> snakedoc: great.  Good night.
[04:00] <Kkoala> this is whats in the aiotrade dir                stefan@stefan-laptop:~$ dir
[04:00] <Kkoala> aiotrade	 Desktop    Examples		    Music     Public	 Videos
[04:00] <Kkoala> description-pak  Documents  gtk-gnutella-downloads  Pictures  Templates
[04:00] <snakedoc> g
[04:01] <snakedoc> g'night tritium thank u
[04:01] <mib_ytomitbs> Which is absurd.. my drivers are obviously fubar. How can I just clear all my drivers and xorg settings and start over?
[04:01] <Kkoala> stefan@stefan-laptop:~$ dir aiotrade
[04:01] <Kkoala> aiotrade  bin  DISTRIBUTION.txt  etc  harness  LICENSE.txt  platform7
[04:01] <soreau> Kkoala: That's what's in your home directory, not the aiotrade one
[04:01] <mib_ytomitbs> ?
[04:01] <Kkoala> now I dont know what to do next
[04:01] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:02] <soreau> Kkoala: From where did you get the source?
[04:02] <_2> jbmigel that page as per all others that i have gotten to even talk to me about this,  assumes that xorg "just works" and i'm only wanting to expand my screen to fill both monitors.  or possably switch between them.   i'm not to that stage of the game.  xorg does not "just work"
[04:02] <Kkoala> its from sourcforge
[04:02] <Droopsta915> Does anyone in here use Cisco Packet Tracer?
[04:02] <Droopsta915> On Ubuntu
[04:03] <edju> /etc/passwd has the shell for nobody set as /bin/sh.  Should that be /bin/false?
[04:03] <soreau> Kkoala: If you want help you need to use the nick of the person your talking to and answer questions more pointedly
[04:04] <sandeep> what is a pcket tracer?
[04:04] <fwaokda> is there a detailed battery meter i can use with ubuntu? I bought a battery online and am wanting to see if its actually what they said it was...
[04:04] <jbmigel> _2 what if you just use a tty console on your laptop to run xrand commands think that will get you anywhere
[04:04] <_2> jbmigel i got one guy in #debian to talk to me about it,  seemed at first like a nice enough chap.   gave me one command to run "an xrandr command of course" which turned off both the lcd and the crt.  when i told him what it did, he got mad at me. and stopped talking to me.
[04:04] <_2> jbmigel sure.   that's where i have been working, because xorg is hosed.
[04:04] <jbmigel> _2 if you mess up with xrand commands you can restart the computer and they go away
[04:05] <constantine_> I'm on the gnome look webite trying to find themes but they are all different, which ones are the MAIN ubuntu themes that you can change?
[04:05] <Kkoala> soreau: there is no install or instruction
[04:05] <chu_>  fwaokda hat's the problem?
[04:05] <_2> or restart x
[04:05] <mib_ytomitbs> Here's that pastbin mates: http://pastebin.com/m3b79001f
[04:05] <mib_ytomitbs> It's rather long, I fear.
[04:05] <soreau> Kkoala: Can you provide the link from where you downloaded this package?
[04:05] <Kkoala> soreau:
[04:05] <Kkoala> yes
[04:06] <jbmigel> _2 ya maybe... so ok i dont get it you want to fix xorg first then right and worry about external monitor later
[04:06] <Lucifer_Cat> ok so someone suggested this before, and im following up on it... i installed *buntu, and then i installed packages like sshd and tightvnc etc. now what should i do so i dont have to install them again the next time i do a clean install?
[04:06] <EtFb> fwaokda: In a konsole, you can get all the battery info you need: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/*
[04:06] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: You need to install the driver in Sys>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[04:06] <chu_> constantine_ if you use synaptic I believe they have all the officially *supported* themes available
[04:06] <fwaokda> EtFb, thanks!
[04:06] <fwaokda> ill try that
[04:06] <_2> jbmigel oddly enough consoles display correctly in both the lcd and the crt    and xorg works if the external is not plugged in.
[04:06] <mib_ytomitbs> soreau, if I do that, I get a solid white screen upon reboot.
[04:06] <simzee> Hello! I use Ubuntu Eee (latest version), and I try to connect with my Huawei E169 usb modem, which should work out of the box, but it just gets ignored somehow. I use an Asus Eee 900 (as far as i remember) Could anyone tell me what to do now? ._.
[04:06] <Kkoala> soreau, http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=152032&use_mirror=superb-east&filename=aiotrade-bin-1.0.3a.zip&92392371
[04:06] <EtFb> fwaokda: The key information is the total manufactured capacity and the last charge.  You can expect a battery to lose its ability to fully charge over time.
[04:07] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: That means it's installing it wrong, most likely because you used envy or tried to install a driver manually
[04:07] <_2> jbmigel i would like to setup xorg to use only the crt  if i could
[04:07] <snakedoc> does anyone know how to work evolution mail with gmail account?
[04:07] <MaT-dg> the livecd asks me for username and password...
[04:07] <mib_ytomitbs> soreau, how can I wipe all driver and xorg settings, and then retry this?
[04:07] <jbmigel> _2 it really sounds to me like you just need to give the right xrandr command perhaps just before you plug in the external
[04:07] <fwaokda> EtFb, says that directory doesn't exist
[04:08] <EtFb> fwaokda: Do you have /proc/acpi?  Look in there.  I may have misremembered the path from there.
[04:08] <jbmigel> _2 you saw the second example command in the link i sent? it says it will give you external monitor only
[04:08] <snakedoc> does anyone know how to work evolution mail with gmail account?
[04:08] <_2> jbmigel yep
[04:08] <mib_ytomitbs> I mean, I am to the point where I am considering doing a fresh install.. This is absurd.
[04:08] <soreau> Kkoala: The program you have downloaded is for windows, not linux. If there is no linux version of the program already you can try running it with wine (ask in #wine)
[04:08] <fwaokda> EtFb, it was BAT1 :)
[04:08] <fwaokda> not BAT0
[04:08] <fwaokda> but..
[04:08] <rww> snakedoc: The settings you need are at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799&topic=12920 (for IMAP) or http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287&topic=12917 (for POP).
[04:08] <jbmigel> _2 and it didnt help at all?
[04:08] <EtFb> fwaokda: Bloody one-based counting... it's always a bad idea...
[04:08] <_2> jbmigel and tested it.    i have external monitor,  just can see crap on it
[04:08] <snakedoc> rww, what are the 2 designations?
[04:09] <rww> MaT-dg: Try putting in "ubuntu" for the username and leave the password blank
[04:09] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: Reinstall ubuntu. Or dist-upgrade might work
[04:09] <fwaokda> EtFb, it's just saying its a dir with no information other than that :(
[04:09] <jbmigel> _2 can you be more specific? is it blurry or blank or bright or what
[04:09] <MaT-dg> rww: 'incorrect' xD
[04:09] <floatboat> can someone here help me use ntop
[04:09] <_2> jbmigel like i said that command seems to assume that xorg just works, and all i want to do is dirrect it to a screen.
[04:09] <rww> snakedoc: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=75725
[04:09] <EtFb> fwaokda: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/*
[04:09] <mib_ytomitbs> soreau, I'm upgrading to 8.10 now. once I reboot will it clear all my xorg and driver configs?
[04:10] <EtFb> That will give you the contents of every file inside the directory
[04:10] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: You're upgrading at this very moment?
[04:10] <chu_> I guess so
[04:10] <fwaokda> EtFb, SWEET :) now what did you say was the only important info?
[04:10] <_2> jbmigel sure i'll try to describe it.    light blue mostly  devided into three sections left middle and right,  with an extreemly large cursor fo two vertical white bars in the middle division.
[04:11] <snowy> hi. I just installed matlab on my ubuntu (love this thing), but I might have done something stupid by using sudo during the install and putting it in /usr/local Now if I don't run it with sudo it gives me all these problems. I tried changing ownership for /usr/lib/matlab but no dice. any easy way of fixing this without reinstalling?
[04:11] <jbmigel> _2 wow thats awesome man!
[04:11] <Kkoala> soreau: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=152032&use_mirror=superb-east&filename=aiotrade-bin-1.0.3a.zip&92392371
[04:11] <_2> jbmigel the dividing marks are solid black
[04:11] <soreau> snowy: Make sure the related directories in ~/. are owned by your user
[04:12] <Auctioneldlama> sorea, this is the guy asking about ATI issues. What was the last thing you said to me like 30 seconds ago?
[04:12] <_2> jbmigel two of them about half an inch wide top to bottom.
[04:12] <jbmigel> _2 do you think maybe you are trying to use a resolution the screen doesnt support? try 640x480 in the xrandr command
[04:12] <EtFb> fwaokda: "design capacity" tells you what the maximum charge capacity was when the battery was manufactured.  It's measured in mAh (milliamp hours).  "last full capacity" says how fully it was charged the last time you charged it.  That will start out close to the d.c. but get lower over time; there's nothing you can do about that, it's normal.
[04:12] <soreau> Kkoala: The program you have downloaded is for windows, not linux. If there is no linux version of the program already you can try running it with wine (ask in #wine)
[04:12] <rww> Auctioneldlama: [20:10:24]	<soreau>	mib_ytomitbs: You're upgrading at this very moment?
[04:12] <EtFb> fwaokda: "remaining capacity" is how much charge the battery has right now.
[04:13] <_2> jbmigel that crt is a little old but does everyting from 320x200 to 1600x1280
[04:13] <Auctioneldlama> Soreau, Oh yes I am. I figured upgrade now, so if I did get it working on 8.04, and upgraded it later, it could mess it up.
[04:13] <Peddyt> How would I, from command line, install a list of packages formatted like this?: http://pastebin.com/m641f1ac7
[04:13] <EtFb> fwaokda: For example, my brand-new Toshiba A300 has a design capacity of 4000mAh, but because the battery is a few weeks old, it can't charge more than 3863mAh.  In a year's time, the way I use my laptops, that will probably be down to 2000 or so.
[04:14] <fwaokda> EtFb, :( the one i bought was supposed to be DC @ 5200mAh, yet it says its 4400mAh dang ebay
[04:14] <snowy> soreau: you are right, my .matlab is owned by root. I tried sudo chown -R myusername .matlab/ but no luck
[04:14] <jbmigel> _2 could you try a different resolution and see if the screen changes or stays the same?
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> hi all
[04:14] <_2> Peddyt LIST="your package list here" ;sudo apt-get install $LIST
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> 	good morning
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> 	i would like to test my laptop [ almost 3 years old ]
[04:14] <EtFb> fwaokda: What does it say for the model number?
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> 	i have installed ubuntu 8.10 inteprid [ 600+ mb iso file] in vmware workstation
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> 	how do i test my laptop and send a report to the laptop wiki ?
[04:14] <FloodBot1> Jaan|Perfect: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:14] <fwaokda> EtFb, model number is blank
[04:15] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: Alright. In that case, don't try to install the proprietary driver (in Sys>Prefs>HW Drivers) since Intrepid has the open radeon driver version that supports your card. Chances are you will need to delete xorg.conf altogether after the upgrade is finished (since it will load the correct driver by default)
[04:15] <fwaokda> EtFb, i guess someone just "made" it
[04:15] <EtFb> Jaan|Perfect: You can't.  If you're running in VMware, you can't get a clear idea of how it's working in your laptop, because it isn't.
[04:15] <EtFb> fwaokda: Odd!
[04:15] <soreau> snowy: Well that was my one and only guess, sorry
[04:15] <EtFb> fwaokda: Pastebin the output for me; I'm curious.
[04:15] <Kkoala> oh geeze
[04:15] <chu_> Does anyone have experience with laptop's "special" keys? Like, this Fn key combinations used for asus laptops etc?
[04:15] <Kkoala> soreau: thanks
[04:15] <fwaokda> already on it 1 second ;)
[04:15] <snowy> soreau: I meant, I don't know how to change the ownership. But i used nautilus
[04:15] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, should I erase xorg.conf before it finishes updating?
[04:16] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: No, after
[04:16] <Jaan|Perfect> ok, i need to install on my laptop
[04:16] <EtFb> chu_: My experience is that you can't trust them to work.  Sometimes even a new kernel upgrade changes them.
[04:16] <EtFb> Jaan|Perfect: Yes.
[04:16] <linux_guy> FREE ebook download and reference for Ubuntu.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/free-download-ubuntu-pocket-guide-and-reference.html
[04:16] <bartek> Hi there. I want to be able to access my machine via ssh from outside my network (behind a router). I forwarded port 1985 (my ssh port) to the ubuntu boxes ip address on the network but when I do ssh <my external ip> -p1985 it just sits there and eventually closes connection. I can do ssh localhost -p1985 quite fine though. Any tips?
[04:16] <linux_guy> that should be a requirement for joining here
[04:16] <fwaokda> EtFb, http://rafb.net/p/JD4O5Z89.html
[04:16] <Jaan|Perfect> but how do i install an iso file on my laptop ?
[04:16] <_2> jbmigel ok it changes size.  but the picture is exactly the same.
[04:16] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, Oh alright. And after wards, I don't have to install anything, just delete xorg.conf, and reboot and I'm ready to go? Will that also support 3d acceleration so I can play 3d games and use compiz with my dual screen setup?
[04:16] <chu_> Yeah, I was thinking that too (As 8.10 doesn't detected my battery), what are the chances of 9.10 running *stable* now?
[04:16] <soreau> snowy: That is correct. As user from a terminal use: sudo chown -R $LOGNAME ~/.matlab
[04:16] <Peddyt> _2, the package list is in a text file.
[04:17] <chu_> 9.04 rather
[04:17] <Cpudan80> bartek: shh ip -p 1985
[04:17] <Droopsta915> What should I install when installing wine? wine, wine-dev, winefish?
[04:17] <Cpudan80> bartek: Are you sure you got the space between the p and the port # ?
[04:17] <Auctioneldlama> droopsta915: Wine
[04:17] <Peddyt> _2, the package list is in a text file, which is formatted like the pastebin paste that I mentioned above. I can't just copy and paste it into apt-get, because it's oddly formatted.
[04:17] <snowy> soreau: Thanks, it worked :)
[04:17] <Auctioneldlama> soreau?
[04:17] <Droopsta915> thanks
[04:17] <EtFb> fwaokda: Weird.  Ah well, what did it cost you?
[04:18] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: It does support 3D acceleration and you can play games but the proprietary drivers work better for graphically intense games. The open driver is better for compiz and video playback
[04:18] <fwaokda> EtFb, DC: 48.8wh  ??
[04:18] <fwaokda> EtFb, thats what the gnome one says
[04:18] <jbmigel> _2 wow it really seems like its close to working... how about if you use the third xrandr command... and try to just set your laptops monitor active
[04:18] <fwaokda> EtFb, does 48.8wh = 4400mAh ?
[04:18] <bartek> Cpudan80: uh, I dont think the space matters because I've never used a space after a single dash (-) arg. But I tried it with a space and it doesn't work either
[04:18] <_2> Peddyt so use grep, cut, to format it
[04:18] <linux_guy> is there a driver that will allow compiz and video files to play nicely?
[04:18] <Auctioneldlama> soreau: Oh I see. So all I have to do is just let the distro upgrade, reboot, then delete xorg.conf, reboot again, and everything should work just dandy?
[04:18] <EtFb> fwaokda: I don't know enough about electronics to even begin to guess.
[04:19] <Cpudan80> bartek: no firewalls on the serveR?
[04:19] <Cpudan80> I cant type today apparently
[04:19] <Peddyt> _2, how would I do that?
[04:19] <prince_jammys> Peddyt: it's in the format readably by dpkg --set-selections
[04:19] <prince_jammys> *readable
[04:19] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: Finish upgrade, rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak then reboot and it should work (hopefully)
[04:20] <jtaji> fwaokda: divide the 48.8Wh by the battery voltage, then multiply by 1000, and you'll have mAh
[04:20] <bartek> Cpudan80: good point, I setup iptables. I'll check them out
[04:20]  * linux_guy pulls his hair out
[04:20] <EtFb> fwaokda: In Australia at the moment, a ~4000mAh battery tends to cost around $100 AUD, which is about 50 euros.
[04:20] <bartek> totally forgot :)
[04:20] <Auctioneldlama> Soreau: Oh ok, just like triple checking here: So I let the distro finish (don't reboot yet?) delete xorg.conf (or rename it) and then reboot?
[04:20] <EtFb> fwaokda: Or twice that if you want a warranty...
[04:20] <Peddyt> prince_jammys, I understand, but how would I install it? I do 'dpkg --set-selections installed-software.txt', what do I do after that?
[04:20] <Cpudan80> easy to forget about
[04:20] <fwaokda> EtFb, haha ok ;) i paid: 52.95 USD
[04:21] <fwaokda> EtFb, plus 12.95 shipping (2nd day air)
[04:21] <redline565353> can somebody help me, i have some questions
[04:21] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, Oh and will you be on tommorow?
[04:21] <Peddyt> prince_jammys, dpkg --set-selections < installed-software.txt
[04:21] <Peddyt> *
[04:21] <soreau> ! ask | redline565353:
[04:21] <EtFb> fwaokda: You did OK then.  Expect it to last a year and a half of really solid use (ie draining and charging entirely every single day) and you'll be OK.
[04:22] <fwaokda> EtFb, alright well thanks been a big help
[04:22] <b3z3rk3r> fwaokda, never drain your battery fully
[04:22] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, So if I do what I said above, it should work, correct?
[04:22] <b3z3rk3r> Li-ion batteries like to be charged frequently
[04:22] <Droopsta915> Will wine automatically try to install my .exe file when I double click on it?
[04:22] <prince_jammys> Peddyt: sudo dpkg --set-selections < yourfile && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[04:22] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: Yes, but I will be working and may or may not be available. If it doesn't work, the very best thing you can do is ask in #compiz-fusion in about 10 hours from now
[04:22] <Hector> GASP.
[04:23] <Auctioneldlama> soreau Alright will do. Too bad I have to work and don't get back until 2:25 EST.
[04:23] <EtFb> b3z3rk3r: There's a lot of advice around about batteries.  The advice I got from experts at the local battery shop boils down to: you get 1000 cycles (ie charge+drain = 1 cycle) and then it's an ideal anchor for a small boat.
[04:23] <redline565353> i'm having problems when trying to install cd drive only loads grub and gets to the "setup" menu and then after that it says error loading bootdisk. i'm downloading another copy and going to try that but i need to think of other ways to install ubuntu
[04:23] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, I'll try then. Think you could be on around that time if you get the chance?
[04:23] <Peddyt> prince_jammys, there's no program called dselect-upgrade...
[04:23] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: Just ping me, I'll be on later most likely (around this time tomorrow)
[04:23] <genii-around> prince_jammys: First he needs to put a >  between: dpkg --set-selections     and: installed-software.txt
[04:23] <_2> xrandr really needs a man page
[04:23] <prince_jammys> Peddyt: it's not a prog. it's an apt-get action
[04:23] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, Ok thanks for the help mate. Later everyone!
[04:23] <jbmigel> _2 it totally has one already
[04:24] <Peddyt> oops
[04:24] <_2> jbmigel i can turn either one off,  or both,   but there doesn't seem to be an --on switch
[04:24] <_2> jbmigel  you call that a man page ?
[04:24] <Peddyt> Thanks prince_jammys, that did it, I accidentally left off the 'apt-get' bit. It's working now, thanks again :)
[04:25] <bartek> Cpudan80: looks like I'm not binding login to any specific ip address, atleast from what I can tell (this machine actually has no iptables, and the sshd config is as is pretty much)
[04:25] <soreau> _2: What are you trying to do now? (Can you restate your issue please?)
[04:25] <_2> jbmigel oh man 3 xrandr is not bad.
[04:25] <jbmigel> _2 hmmm ok lets assume thats all working fine and its another problem... what kinda graphics hardware you running?
[04:25] <Cpudan80> bartek: hmmm
[04:25] <prince_jammys> Peddyt: welcome
[04:25] <_2> jbmigel ati
[04:25]  * _2 blushes
[04:26] <jbmigel> _2 and which driver are you using in xorg then?
[04:26] <soreau> _2: Which driver are you using and what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[04:26] <_2> soreau trying to get an external monitor to work on a lappy
[04:26] <spaceBARbarian> is there a way to automatically mount the vbox shared folder when using ubuntu as guest ?
[04:26] <soreau> _2: What does 'glxinfo|grep render' say?
[04:27] <inanimate_> I'm trying to gain a little more insight into GNOME development. What would be the advantage to using something like GObject in C as oppose to just Objective-C or C++?
[04:27] <soreau> inanimate_: Try a gnome development channel?
[04:27] <_2> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
[04:27] <inanimate_> soreau: Yeah, I did. There isn't really anybody there... Thought I'd give this a try.
[04:27] <_2> soreau says   -shell: glxinfo: command not found
[04:27] <soreau> 0o
[04:28] <usser_> _2, sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[04:28] <soreau> _2: indeed, is mesa-utils installed?
[04:28] <_2> usser_ just to see what driver i'm using,  no thanks.
[04:28] <soreau> 0o
[04:28] <soreau> _2: Alright, now pastebin the output of 'xrandr -v'
[04:28] <usser_> _2, minimalist eh :)
[04:29] <usser_> _2, u can use lsmod
[04:29] <_2> Server reports RandR version 1.2
[04:29] <_2> Package `mesa-utils' is not installed.
[04:29] <soreau> _2: For 'xrandr -v'?
[04:30] <constantine> I downloaded a few of these http://tinyurl.com/6zzedm but can't get ubuntu to recognize them as theme files
[04:30] <_2> Server reports RandR version 1.2
[04:30] <soreau> You said that already
[04:30] <_2> you asked again
[04:30] <_2> i answered again
[04:30] <Mr_Goodkat> is it normal that ubuntu netbook remix lags so much?
[04:30] <soreau> No, I asked you to pastebin the output of 'xrandr -v'
[04:31] <_2> soreau i don't pastebin one line.
[04:31] <_2> soreau the return is posted twice  ^
[04:31] <soreau> _2: Package `mesa-utils' is not installed. wasn't one of the two lines?
[04:31] <_2> soreau no.
[04:31] <_2> soreau that was answering another question
[04:31] <soreau> Then I can't help you if that's all xrandr -v says
[04:32] <jbmigel> _2 if you're not sure what driver you are using this should give you a shortlist grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <_2> well that's all it says
[04:32] <soreau> well then I can't help you
[04:32] <J-_> As of tonight it seems that, when I try to press and hold a key on my keyboard, the letters don't repeat anymore. What can I do to fix the problem?
[04:32] <tlchack5> Im having trouble with the installation of Ubuntu, can anybody assist me?
[04:32] <jbmigel> soreau when i xrandr -v i just get version 1.2 also... maybe you want a different command?
[04:32] <_2> jbmigel i posted the return of that up ^ there
[04:32] <soreau> jbmigel: Hmm... *checks*
[04:33] <soreau> Crap
[04:33] <_2> jbmigel the grep shows only one relivant line   (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
[04:33] <soreau> _2: Sorry, i meant 'xrandr --verbose'
[04:33] <_2> soreau :)))
[04:33] <soreau> jbmigel: Thanks ;)
[04:34] <_2> soreau give ma a sec and i'll put it on a pastebin.
[04:35] <Droopsta915> I uninstalled wine with complete removal, but I still see the wine folder in my applications list?
[04:35] <jbmigel> _2 ok im not sure but here's what i think, i think you have installed the ati proprietary driver for your graphics hardware, and it doesnt seem to work right with xrandr. maybe if you turn off that driver youd have better luck?
[04:35] <soreau> Droopsta915: So delete it with alacarte (Sys>Prefs>Main Menu)
[04:35] <redline565353> nobody going to help me :(
[04:36] <tlchack5> nvm, i got it to work, thank you
[04:36] <soreau> redline565353: I really didn't understand.. you already installed ubuntu and grub wont load what?
[04:36] <redline565353> no the problem is i'm trying to install but cant get it to load from the cd properly
[04:36] <_2> jbmigel nope.  i haven't installed proprietary unless it's default in debian lenny
[04:37] <soreau> redline565353: Did you perform the 'Check disk for defects' program?
[04:37] <redline565353> it reads my windows cd fine but for some reason not the linux
[04:37] <redline565353> i try to but it just hangs on both copies of the disk
[04:37] <soreau> redline565353: It's either a bad disc or a bad drive I'd assume
[04:38] <redline565353> is there any other way i could install i was looking at that wubi thing and wondering if i could do it somehow with that
[04:38] <Droopsta915> I accidently hit revert! Now I cant remove?
[04:38] <genii-around> Possibly an .iso file just copied to a cd instead of burned there as a cd image
[04:39] <jbmigel> _2 maybe you could try switching the driver from radeon to vesa in your xorg.conf... vesa drivers real crap but maybe it will work for this?
[04:39] <_2> soreau http://pastebin.com/f7a581baf
[04:39] <soreau> ! wubi | redline565353
[04:39] <_2> jbmigel heh there isn't an xorg.conf at this point.
[04:40] <heatmzzr> can someone tell me what codec i need for mplayer to play mms streams?
[04:40] <soreau> _2: Try xrandr --output LVDS --auto --right-of VGA-0
[04:40] <_2> jbmigel so if i generate one with the  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command  where do i add the driver ?
[04:41] <jbmigel> _2 darn dood i give up eh? maybe you wernt meant to use that external monitor tonight...
[04:41] <soreau> jbmigel: lol
[04:41] <_2> soreau xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1680x1200 (desired size 2304x800)
[04:41] <_2> jbmigel maybe.
[04:41] <bartek> Ok, it looks like my port forwarding isn't working at all. Sigh
[04:41] <_2> jbmigel but i do thank you for trying.
[04:42] <jbmigel> _2 np pal good luck!
[04:42] <_2> jbmigel if it had been easy i whould never have asked.
[04:42] <soreau> _2: You really need glxinfo dude. I will assume (since you refuse to install it) that glxinfo -l|grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE will say 2048
[04:42] <pawan1234> hi
[04:42] <_2> soreau wait
[04:42] <kc8tpz> will it work to dual boot with vista if /boot is the first partition instead of windows?  my drive is too big to have it at the back with the rest of the linux stuff
[04:42] <pawan> hi
[04:42] <chrish> #sdl
[04:42] <baz> is there a command to search all irc channels on this server that have *ubuntu* in their name?
[04:42] <pawan> when is the next release coming
[04:42] <soreau> _2: And in this event you will need an xorg.conf and a Virtual line in it defining 2048
[04:43] <nOgAnOo> type /list ubuntu
[04:43] <_2> soreau i didn't refuse to install it.  i said i wouldn't install it for only the info on which driver   if i need it i'll install it.
[04:43] <nOgAnOo> g'night all
[04:43] <soreau> _2: In any event, you will have to lower the resolution of one if not both of your monitors
[04:44] <_2> soreau but one more thing.  i don't want "dual head"  i just want the external to work.  no lcd at all.
[04:44] <chrish> #firefox
[04:44] <bonny> hi
[04:44] <soreau> _2: In that case, you mean clone?
[04:44] <bonny> no
[04:44] <_2> no.  i mean put xorg on the external
[04:44] <bonny> hi
[04:44] <baz> nOgAnOo, i'm glad u understood the question, my phrasing was a little wierd... when I run that command I get a list of zero? Not even this channel is listed... any ideas why that is?
[04:44] <soreau> _2: Well I'll try to give you a xrandr command for that
[04:45] <_2> soreau clone would be ok,  if it has to be to get it to work.  but all i want is xorg on the crt
[04:45] <Mr_Goodkat> does smb use ubuntu netbook remix?
[04:45] <spasticteapot> I'm having a devil of a time with my M-Audio Audiophile USB soundcard. I've tried almost everything.
[04:45] <spasticteapot> Anyone know what I can do?
[04:45] <heatmzzr> can someone tell me what codec i need for mplayer to play mms streams?
[04:45] <_2> soreau and what was the "mesa" package ?
[04:45] <soreau> _2: Scroll back
[04:45] <cpro> hi
[04:45] <ScottG489> Is there a configureation file that System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts edits?
[04:46] <cpro> i want to increase my root partition
[04:46] <cpro> can anybody plz help
[04:46] <ScottG489> cpro: distro?
[04:46] <pawan> when is the next release coming
[04:46] <cpro> ubuntu
[04:46] <_2> too far
[04:46] <histo> !release | pawan
[04:46] <cpro> scottG489 ubuntu
[04:46] <_2> i can only scroll 200 lines
[04:46] <histo> pawan: its alpha 4 right now
[04:47] <soreau> _2: Try the same command substituting --right-of for --same-as
[04:47] <ScottG489> cpro: uuuh damn whats the name of the program....GParted. Get gparted, burn it to a disk and then boot from it
[04:47] <_2> soreau   http://pastebin.com/f307e894c
[04:47] <cpro> ScottG489 so is it possible to increase my / partion without dameging my system
[04:47] <cpro> ScottG489 so it wont disturb my system right
[04:47] <cpro> ??
[04:48] <ScottG489> cpro: Your really in luck because I just did this to increase my swap partition so I could hibernate
[04:48] <ScottG489> cpro: Nope, but they do recommend that you back up your system.
[04:48] <_2> soreau no change with the same-as command.
[04:48] <soreau> _2: Well you don't even have dri working
[04:48] <cpro> ScottG489 so takin backup will save every setting right even the eclipse
[04:48] <soreau> _2: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:48] <cpro> ??
[04:48] <_2> soreau crt is still three baby blue vertical panels
[04:49] <pawan> anyone from india
[04:49] <cpro> pawan yeah
[04:49] <Lucifer_Cat> technically
[04:49] <cpro> pawan yeah i m from india
[04:49] <perlsyntax> anyone use pgtk in here?
[04:49] <ScottG489> cpro: Hibernate cant write to a swap file partition (which I made) so i made a larger partition for my swap. but now i cant hibernate right :( lol
[04:49] <tritium> pawan, cpro:  location is irrelevant to the topic of ubuntu support
[04:49] <baz> anyone know an irc command to list all channels that contain *ubuntu*
[04:49] <ScottG489> cpro: eclipse?
[04:49] <ScottG489> Is there a configureation file that System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts edits?
[04:49] <perlsyntax> i not sure how to run my own pygtk program i  made?
[04:49] <Lucifer_Cat> pawan: why do you need to ask?
[04:50] <cpro> ScottG489 i mean all the softwares
[04:50] <_2> soreau http://pastebin.com/f3c7d2d0f
[04:50] <cpro> tritium i agree
[04:50] <cpro> :)
[04:50] <soreau> _2: You aren't using ubuntu?
[04:51] <perlsyntax> ?
[04:51] <_2> soreau no, that lappy is debain lenny.   that was said many times.
[04:51] <ScottG489> cpro: Well the thing is, when changing a partitions size something can do wrong and your data can get messed up. It is generally pretty safe though. I didnt back up my system when I resized my partitions
[04:51] <francis> importing time and then printing ctime in python gives me AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ctime'. What am I doing wrongly ? Help
[04:51] <soreau> _2: I hadn't been with you from the start. May I ask why you're asking here?
[04:52] <G-Blunted> is there a graphical application to extract .tar.gz files?
[04:52] <_2> soreau cause the folks in #debian aren't any help
[04:52] <cpro> is anybody over here can help me with eclipse
[04:52] <ScottG489> cpro: What are you trying to resize for?
[04:52] <soreau> _2: Why not try #yourdriver?
[04:52] <_2> soreau and i was in here helping,  and thought i would work on my one.
[04:52] <_2> soreau #yourdriver ?
[04:52] <_2> #ati ?
[04:53] <cpro> ScottG489 i had problem in disk space for a time beeing i have deleted some of my files to get the things working
[04:53] <_2> errr #radion
[04:53] <cpro> ScottG489 i will increase my / partition l8r
[04:53] <ScottG489> cpro: ok good luck
[04:53] <spaceBARbarian> i compiled a program but bash wont let me run it, keeps saying permission denied, anyknow who why ?
[04:53] <cpro> ScottG489 thanks
[04:53] <spaceBARbarian> i tried chmod but it doesnt do anything
[04:54] <spaceBARbarian> ls
[04:54] <ScottG489> Is there a configureation file that System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts edits?
[04:54] <cpro> can anybody tell me how to get ejb development on eclipse
[04:54] <matt____> When trying to setup vlc telnet interface, I get main interface error: socket bind error (Permission denied)
[04:54] <_2> soreau what i asked origenally was, does anyone know how to setup xorg.conf for when it "doesn't just work"    and the chase was on...
[04:54] <cpro> can anybody tell me how to get ejb development on eclipse my eclipse version is 3.2
[04:54] <soreau> _2: Anyway, have you tried the monitor config tool for your DE?
[04:54] <kaiden> Hoping someone can point me in the right direction, i'm trying to install to a raid array however ubuntu 8.10 live cd can't see my array, i have access to drivers for the array but haven't a clue how i would get those injected in without rebuilding the kernel
[04:54] <kaiden> Any ideas?
[04:55] <_2> soreau my de ?    umm i don't think twm comes with a monitor config tool
[04:55] <metalpres> is there a way to force a device to keep the same id number on boot,  by id number i meant the id number thats listed when you use the command 'xinput list'
[04:55] <soreau> _2: Then you're definitely asking in the wrong channel ;)
[04:56] <_2> soreau heh.  because it's not gnome either huh ?  :)
[04:56] <metalpres> i have a gamepad that requires me to use a certain command everytime i boot for it to work properly but the command requires entering the id number, but the id number changes everytime to I cant set it to just do it automatically
[04:56] <soreau> _2: Go show the radeon guys your x log, be patient. They're much more qualified to solve both your video related issues
[04:56] <_2> soreau but you did see the glxinfo output i pastebined ?
[04:56] <soreau> _2: Yea, that was wrong and bad
[04:56] <spaceBARbarian> can someoen help me with bash / gcc problems please
[04:57] <_2> wrong and bad ???
[04:57] <mneptok> _2: have you run xfix>
[04:57] <mneptok> ?
[04:57] <soreau> _2: It wasn't the output I asked for but it did reveal that your drivers aren't working correctly which is why I asked for x log and i really don't know what's going on. So I will suggest to you now #radeon
[04:57] <redline565353> does anyone know if you can install linux fully from inside wubi?
[04:58] <usser_> G-Blunted, gnome's built in file-roller does it just fine
[04:58] <Glassworks> how can i fix all my windows opening at 0'0
[04:58] <_2> mneptok nope.  no such command.
[04:58] <mneptok> _2: boot to recovery mode
[04:58] <ScottG489> Glassworks: what window managerdo you have?
[04:58] <Glassworks> oh
[04:58] <Glassworks> gnome
[04:59] <G-Blunted> i have xfce :(
[04:59] <_2> soreau thanks,   really glad you gave a stab at it.
[04:59] <mneptok> Glassworks: most likely your WM is Metacity or Compiz
[04:59] <_2> mneptok ?
[04:59] <Glassworks> right compiz
[04:59] <Glassworks> sorry
[04:59] <_2> mneptok errr ummm why ?
[04:59] <eater9> hi - my screen gets very dim whenever I change consoles or suspend and resume my laptop; i have to use the brightness controls to bring it back up. How can I fix that?
[04:59] <mneptok> _2: boot the machine. look for the "Press <ESC> to enter the GRUB menu" prompt. do so. choose recovery mode.
[05:00] <ScottG489> Glassworks: Hm, I think metacity is gnomes window manager. I could be wrong. I use compiz. I would know how to solve your problem with compiz but otherwise I don't know if there is a way to fix that in metacity
[05:00] <_2> mneptok there isn't a recovery mode.   why do you want me to do that ?
[05:00] <mneptok> _2: because that's where the xfix command lives, which will re-write a sane X config for you.
[05:00] <spaceBARbarian> can someoen help me with bash / gcc problems please
[05:00] <mneptok> _2: if you have no recovery mode, your installation is very, very broken.
[05:00] <ScottG489> Glassworks: The only thing I can tell you is that I would strongly recommend you get compiz
[05:00] <Glassworks> ScottG489 i am using it
[05:01] <_2> mneptok no.   i use lilo.  installation is not broken
[05:01] <spaceBARbarian> i compiled a program but bash wont let me run it, cannot execute binary files, anyone know why ?
[05:01] <mneptok> _2: why lilo?
[05:01] <ScottG489> Glassworks: oh you do have compiz?
[05:01] <Glassworks> yes
[05:01] <_2> mneptok no partitions.
[05:01] <crdlb> mneptok: he's using debian but has come here anyway
[05:01]  * mneptok blinks
[05:01] <trygg> is it possible to open something in nautilus with a "wildcard"?
[05:02] <mneptok> Debian questions in Debian channels is best.
[05:02] <trygg> so if i open .jpg it tells the program to open "feh -option file | whatever" ?
[05:02] <spasticteapot> Does anyone here know how to change my default ALSA soundcard?
[05:02] <soreau> crdlb: xD
[05:02] <_2> mneptok well one would think so.  but not when they don't even try to help.
[05:02] <_2> !alsa
[05:02] <soreau> I was just about to say it
[05:03] <Glassworks> its only some windows that open at 0,0 on the desktop
[05:03] <spaceBARbarian> i compiled a program but bash wont let me run it, cannot execute binary files, anyone know why ?
[05:03] <mneptok> _2: but that's not a good reason to impose on another community of users.
[05:03] <ScottG489> Glassworks:  oh lol. well thats your window manager. gnome is your desktop environment. Your gonna want to head over to #compiz-fusion for help with your window manager. Though ill answer your question really quick right now. Go to ccsm>place windows
[05:03] <_2> spasticteapot there used to be a command on that on the  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting page iirc
[05:03] <spaceBARbarian> PLEASE HELP
[05:03] <_2> mneptok i'm not imposing.   you know i'm a regular here.
[05:04] <spaceBARbarian> i compiled a program but bash wont let me run it, gives error : cannot execute binary files, anyone know why ?
[05:04] <mneptok> _2: if that's so, why not just switch to Ubuntu?
[05:04] <mneptok> _2: end of problem
[05:04] <_2> mneptok i'm using ubuntu
[05:04]  * soreau blinks
[05:04] <_2> can't a guy have more than one os....  sheez
[05:04] <failers> :P
[05:05] <spasticteapot> mneptok: Because Ubuntu's devs have a nasty habit of going for gargantuan things (like a special multimedia-optimized version of Ubuntu) instead of making sure that DVDs will actually play on everyone's computer.
[05:05] <spasticteapot> _2: I think I blew up my volume control.
[05:05] <_2> spaceBARbarian sounds like you are calling it in an odd way....    . filename    or  sh filename   or something.
[05:05] <mneptok> spasticteapot: uhhhh ... do you actually know WHY DVDs don;t play?
[05:05] <chrish> #firefox
[05:06] <_2> spasticteapot sudo alsamixer
[05:06] <spasticteapot> mneptok: It says I've got the appropriate deCSS plugins.
[05:06] <mneptok> spasticteapot: are you willing to pay the licensing fee to the DVD consortium for every Ubuntu user? if not, please sit down. ;)
[05:06] <Glassworks> hum
[05:06] <spasticteapot> Then why are there umpteen dozen DVD-related tools?
[05:07] <mneptok> spasticteapot: they are illegal.
[05:07] <baz> is there a way to show the most recently modified file on the entire file system?
[05:07] <mneptok> spasticteapot: and anyone that distrnutes them in a base installation will be sued out of existance.
[05:07] <spasticteapot> Then what does libdvdread3 do?
[05:07] <mneptok> *distributes
[05:07] <_2> spasticteapot there are non-protected non-restrivted DVD's too you know.
[05:07] <spasticteapot> It says it will do CSS descrambling.
[05:08] <mneptok> spasticteapot: it reads the ISO approved DVD format. after decryption.
[05:08] <spasticteapot> Hmm.
[05:09] <_2> baz  find -anewer   or somesuch
[05:09] <mneptok> spasticteapot: what repo is libdvdread3 in? (hint: it ain't a repo that's gonna get Mark sued out of existence)
[05:09] <spasticteapot> _2: I ran alsamixer, and it says I'm using my default soundcard.
[05:09] <_2> baz anyway find does timestamp checking too
[05:09] <baz> _2, how come find doesn't have proper instructions
[05:10] <_2> spasticteapot mmmm ok.   and did you set the correct one to default and restart alsa ?
[05:10] <spasticteapot> mneptok: Probably the "We're not liable" repository. It's a moot point, because it quite simply won't work.
[05:10] <spaceBARbarian> okay so i compiled a program using gcc, its compiled and LINKEd, but when i try to do ./programname. i get a permission denied, then i did sudo -s ./programname, and i get cannot execute binary file
[05:11] <_2> baz  man find   # if you mena the non-GNU -switch crap   i don't know.  and a lot of   or should is say most gui crap is that way anymore
[05:11] <_2> why developers don't like standards,  i have no clue
[05:12] <baz> _2, you know what, i just realised that it was that NAS distro again, when i run it on my ubuntu its perfect
[05:12] <_2> but short options should be  -s  and long opetions should be --switch
[05:12] <mneptok> spasticteapot: VLC
[05:12] <spasticteapot> mneptok: Tried it. Won't work.
[05:13] <spasticteapot> Jackie Chan's Rumble In The Bronx flatly refused to play on my PC.
[05:13] <_2> vlc is gooder than beer
[05:13] <trygg> is it possible to make a .bat-equivalent? cant seem to figure out how to make nautilus open this the right way
[05:13] <spasticteapot> _2: How do you change a default soundcard in alsamixer? (I just read the MAN page.)
[05:13] <_2> and you can quote me on that.
[05:14] <failers> trygg: its called bash
[05:14] <failers> in linux
[05:14] <trygg> yeah, how do i save as one so to say? :D
[05:14] <failers> google it and you will find alot of guides
[05:14] <usser> trygg, not only possible, its encouraged
[05:14] <baz> is there a way to filter a command's "--help" text? For example if I only needed help on the -e switch for ssh: ssh --help e
[05:14] <spaceBARbarian> PLEASE HELP: i compiled a program using gcc, its compiled and LINKED, But when i try to do ./programname , i get a "permission denied", then i did "sudo -s ./programname", and i get "cannot execute binary file"
[05:14] <_2> spasticteapot not in alsamixer.  that's just the volume control.   you change the default card with a few commands...  that page i pointed you at should say what they are.
[05:14] <Charevian> good good
[05:14] <Charevian> hey all
[05:15] <papna> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases claims that Jaunty will have Pidgin 2.6, which is bogus (that may or may not exist by April, if nothing else). Is there someone who knows what software Jaunty will include who can correct the list in the article?
[05:15] <_2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting spasticteapot   that one
[05:15] <trygg> i just want a file to open in a specific way, cant see why nautilus should have problem with that
[05:15] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, type "file ./programname" -- what does it say?
[05:15] <usser> trygg, its not as much about the extension as it is about content of the file and its permissions. every file whose first line is #!/bin/bash will be a shell script
[05:15] <redline565353> guys i got another question, i'm currently installing ubuntu with wubi.... but is there a way i can "get rid of windows"?
[05:15] <Charevian> Baz: command --help | grep <test u want to grep>
[05:15] <comcastscott> good evening. Anybody else having issues opening the account window in Pidgin? I've googled pidgin issues with 8.1 and haven't found it listed.
[05:15] <usser> redline565353, install normally
[05:15] <redline565353> cant
[05:16] <sara_> Commuter Plane Crashes in Buffalo
[05:16] <redline565353> no cd drive
[05:16] <_2> trygg filename.extention means nothing in linux
[05:16] <usser> redline565353, in that case no, wubi relies on windows, you can boot ubuntu from a usb stick
[05:16] <baz> Charevian, oh yeah! grep yet again! Is there anything it can't do? Probably the second most useful command after......................................ssh of course....
[05:16] <trygg> ah, got it.
[05:17] <_2> baz  it doesn't cook
[05:17] <usser> baz, oh, careful there, second most useful command is find :)
[05:17] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: "./cse473-ipc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped "
[05:17] <Charevian> baz indeed, its usefull for everything :p
[05:17] <_2> baz another you will like is    less
[05:18] <Charevian> usser: no thats the third ... first comes ssh then grep and then find
[05:18] <LionAthlete74> whats up
[05:18] <Charevian> hey LionAthlete74! :)
[05:18] <_2> Charevian mv here. then ....
[05:18] <LionAthlete74> hey
[05:18] <_2> Charevian sorry.  mc
[05:18] <usser> shoot :) my rankings stat are outdated
[05:18] <LionAthlete74> who in here does not have a clan and needs one just asking
[05:18] <trygg> so just #!/bin/bash , enter, the command, and thats it?
[05:19] <usser> a clan, for what
[05:19] <LionAthlete74> Halo 3
[05:19] <spaceBARbarian> PLEASE HELP: i compiled a program using gcc, its compiled and LINKED, But when i try to do ./programname , i get a "permission denied", then i did "sudo -s ./programname", and i get "cannot execute binary file"
[05:19] <LionAthlete74> possibly Halo 2
[05:19] <Charevian> LionAthlete74: just leave if u play windows games :+
[05:19] <usser> trygg, yes command on the new line
[05:19] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, Well, that certainly seems like it should run.
[05:19] <LionAthlete74> no this is on x box live
[05:19] <Charevian> also microshit :+
[05:19] <LionAthlete74> my computer is too slow for computer games
[05:20] <trygg> nautilus complaints that it cant find the program when i select it though
[05:20] <Charevian> LionAthlete74: if your pc is to slow to game, just install ubuntu :)
[05:20] <spasticteapot> _2: Is this the correct syntax? options snd-snd_usb_audio index=0
[05:20] <spasticteapot> options snd-snd_hda_intel index=1
[05:20] <LionAthlete74> thanks but no thanks
[05:20] <Charevian> and LionAthlete74 almost everyone on this channel hates Windows and Microsoft ...
[05:20] <usser> trygg, you have to make your script executable, chmod +x scriptname
[05:20] <_2> LionAthlete74 non-sense  we played games when 8086 came out.
[05:20] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: I know i have no idea wtf is going on :(
[05:20] <trygg> hm, still no dice
[05:20] <LionAthlete74> last time i installed something it made everything turn white
[05:21] <trygg> well, it opens but it wont run
[05:21] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, What does "ldd ./programname" give you?
[05:21] <LionAthlete74> like micheal jackson's skin
[05:21] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: could it have anything to do with me using VBOX ?
[05:21] <Charevian> lol!
[05:21] <trygg> i guess the *.rar isnt likeable
[05:21] <_2> spasticteapot honestly,  i don't know.   i have only help with that one time.
[05:21] <usser> trygg, can you elaborate, what opens and what doesnt work? what are you trying to do?
[05:21] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, That I can't answer, since I haven't tried VBox yet.
[05:21] <Charevian> probably we can make an U-Box x64 / x32 ...
[05:21] <Charevian> i just bought one
[05:21] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: "ldd: warning: you do not have execution permission for `./cse473-ipc'"
[05:21] <LionAthlete74> any way i am new to halocharts.com so does anyone know how this works
[05:22] <trygg> trying to do "unrar p -inul filename.rar | mplayer -" when clicking on a .rar
[05:22] <Charevian> but no hair on my head is thinking about getting microsoft hard/software...
[05:22] <spasticteapot> LionAthlete74: The only thing we do with Xboxes here is try to make clusters out of them.
[05:22] <RussM> So, what's "ls -l cse473-ipc" show/
[05:22] <Charevian> just deleted it from my laptop
[05:22] <spasticteapot> Hooray for microsoft-subsidized hardware!
[05:22] <LionAthlete74> define clusters
[05:22] <Miesco> When is the next release?
[05:22] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: "-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 13584 2009-02-13 00:16 cse473-ipc"
[05:22] <Charevian> Miesco:  i dont know
[05:22] <usser> trygg, and how do you run it? right clicking on the file? there's a way to add context right-click menus in nautilus
[05:22] <Miesco> 9.4?
[05:23] <LionAthlete74> define clusters
[05:23] <Miesco> april?
[05:23] <spasticteapot> LionAthlete74: Multiple computers connected via high-speed LAN (gigabit ethernet, for example) working in tandem as a single processor to deal with gargantuan computing tasks.
[05:23] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, Well, then just try "chmod +x cse473-ipc"
[05:23] <trygg> usser: yeah thats what im trying to do, just not sure how to tell nautilus to input whatever .rar with filename,
[05:23] <baz> hehe, i like how no one disputes SSH is the best command and its only a matter of whats second...
[05:23] <Charevian> whahaha...
[05:23] <trygg> usser: i put in *.rar now, but i guess thats not right
[05:23] <_2> Charevian hate is such a strong word,   i don't hate M$,  i wouldn't use it if i had to throw all my computers away or use it.   but i don't hate it.  it has it's place.   i'm just not alowed to mention where that place is in a familey freindly channel
[05:23] <spasticteapot> If you want to model, say, what would happen if we dropped a nuke on Steve Ballmer's house, you'd need a cluster. A big one.
[05:23] <Scunizi> spasticteapot: like irc :)
[05:23] <Charevian> i liked to see him quit from irc... :)
[05:23] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, Thought I'm not sure why gcc would create it w/o the execute bit on it.
[05:23] <usser> trygg, try putting $1 instead
[05:23] <trygg> alright
[05:24] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: i did that, it doesnt change anything
[05:24] <spasticteapot> Scunizi: IIRC, internet relay chat servers aren't really a cluster - they work far more independently.
[05:24] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, Try this... copy it to /tmp, then chmod +x it there.
[05:24] <Charevian> _2:  ok, ok, you don't mean it bad :p
[05:24] <_2> :)
[05:24] <Charevian> _2:  i just don't like windows or M$  ;)
[05:24] <trygg> usser: wonderful, thats what i was looking for. what do you call it anyway, wildcard?
[05:25] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, I'm going to take a guess that for some reason, you're on a filesystem mounted with a mask that precludes execute...
[05:25] <Charevian> its everything but not stable ;)
[05:26] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: nice work lol, i totally forgot that i was working out of my Share folder in Vbox
[05:26] <spaceBARbarian> haha what a dumb move
[05:26] <_2> trygg  there are two basic wildcards in the linux shell   ?  and  *   ? will match any single chat and * matches everything
[05:26] <spaceBARbarian> thanks for the help
[05:26] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, np
[05:26] <_2> s=chat=char=
[05:26] <usser> trygg, thats an environment variable, anything that starts with $ is a variable for bash, $1, $2 etc are arguments to the script, ie scriptname hello world, inside the script $1 would expand as hello and $2 would be world
[05:26] <Charevian> hmm _2, be right back, have to restart, just installed ubuntu in time i chatted here :p
[05:26] <trygg> usser: guess i'll have to read up on some guides :)
[05:27] <Charevian> so cya in some minutes.
[05:27] <Mr_Goodkat> smb using ubuntu netbook remix?
[05:27] <_2> ok
[05:27] <usser> trygg, yea bash is powerful, much more powerful than window batch files, there are linux distributions out there whose entire package management system is written in bash
[05:31] <trygg> anyway, cedega is still the best way to go if you want to wine a 2d dx9 game, right?
[05:31] <Anacranom> #cedega
[05:31] <FancyPants> hello
[05:32] <Titan8990> !appdb | trygg
[05:32] <FancyPants> first time here! Hello!
[05:32] <_2> it tic's me off that i can't pastebin some things.   like if there are more than 100 lines
[05:32] <Anacranom> !ask | FancyPants
[05:33] <Titan8990> _2, 100 lines is a lot for someone on irc to read....
[05:33] <FancyPants> will note thank you
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> _2: Bug in the pastebin you're using or something?
[05:33] <Anacranom> FancyPants, good to meet you, this is a busy chanel, please be precise, if you need more look me up
[05:34] <FancyPants> will do thank you
[05:34] <_2> tonyyarusso not sure, it's pastebinit.py from the repos
[05:34] <_2> tonyyarusso it's probably my connection speed.  there isn't one.
[05:34] <Mr_Goodkat> _2 you can use http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[05:34] <FancyPants> just going to sit back and watch for a bit
[05:34] <deepz> anyone aware of ffwrap??
[05:35]  * sara_ is amaised http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#2009 was allready updated
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> !away > nick|away
[05:35] <_2> Mr_Goodkat i don't think it's the remote,  i think it's the script
[05:35]  * sara_ is sorry she posted in the wrong box
[05:37] <usser> hm
[05:37] <usser> where'd everybody go?
[05:37] <FancyPants> still here
[05:38] <Anacranom> usser, netsplit?
[05:38] <usser> no doesnt look like it
[05:38] <usser> man i've never seen this channel so quiet
[05:38] <FancyPants> Hi my name  is Fancy Pants and I use Ubuntu
[05:38] <FancyPants> LOL
[05:39] <usser> well looks like our work here supporting users is done, everyone's happy. we can go home now
[05:39] <_2> :)
[05:39] <dayo2> tgif
[05:39] <Anacranom> yay!
[05:40] <Anacranom> so 8.04 has NO more issues,,, we're good... G'night
[05:40] <deepz> anyone aware of ffwrap??
[05:40] <baz> i am now deepz
[05:40] <deepz> i have problem in compiling
[05:40] <Titan8990> !ask | deepz
[05:41] <alap> hi, can any one help to solve my problem relating driver installation using modprobe?????
[05:41] <_2> http://pastebin.com/f42df83b9
[05:41] <Titan8990> !ask | alap
[05:41] <Anacranom> alap, sound issues possibly?
[05:42] <Anacranom> and true-dat Titan8990
[05:42] <alap> hi, i am trying to install driver using modprobe but unable to do so getting error as FATAL: Error inserting serial_lcd (/lib/modules/2.6.24-23-386/extra/serial_lcd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) so can anyone help me to get out of here.
[05:42] <Anacranom> alap, using 8.10?
[05:42] <Titan8990> alap, pastebin the results of:  sudo dmesg
[05:42] <deepz>  gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[05:43] <alap> when i yes
[05:43] <alap> yes
[05:43] <_2> dmesg works without sudo
[05:43] <deepz> i have installed gtk packages
[05:44] <Titan8990> deepz, that looks like its looking for the gtk packages in its source directory
[05:44] <_2> deepz look like it's looking for gtk2-dev  or some such
[05:44] <Titan8990> deepz, but thats not enough info to say for sure
[05:44] <Anacranom> 2.6.24~ looks like 8.04
[05:44] <Titan8990> deepz, and yes, you do need the -dev whenever compiling
[05:44] <deepz> ok let me check
[05:44] <Titan8990> !compile | deepz
[05:45] <redline565353> ok i've got another problem.... tried to boot into ubuntu from the install with wubi but keep crashing/freezeing with the last message "too much work for irq3"
[05:45] <CorbinFox> is there a program to stream audio from my computer over the net?
[05:46] <Titan8990> redline565353, try adding this to your kernel boot line:  acpi=off nopic
[05:46] <redline565353> how would i do that?
[05:46] <Titan8990> redline565353, do that by pressing "e" at the grub screen with ubuntu highlighted
[05:46] <rip_> whats the command in terminal to remove a directory, all its files, and daughter directories?
[05:46] <redline565353> k
[05:47] <Titan8990> redline565353, then you highlight kernel line and press e again
[05:47] <bernz> CorbinFox, probably something like 'icecast' or some shoutcast server variant
[05:47] <_2> rip_ rm
[05:47] <Titan8990> redline565353, edit, enter to save, b to boot it
[05:47] <Scunizi> rip_: rm -rf <path>
[05:47] <rip_> CorbinFox: icecast works great
[05:47] <CorbinFox> i'll check those out
[05:47] <rip_> Scunizi: thx, thats what i was looking for
[05:47] <RonDutt> How can I rsync over ssh without carrying over the permissions?
[05:47] <maxime> hi everyone :D
[05:47] <_2> rip_ note -f is force   you may not what or need that
[05:47] <bernz> CorbinFox, yeah, look into 'icecast' as first pick
[05:48] <alap> Titan8990: yes i checked with dmesg also but i am getting following lines as 1) serial_lcd: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel. 2) serial_lcd: Unknown symbol usb_serial_register. 3) serial_lcd: Unknown symbol usb_serial_deregister. so please specify me what to do
[05:48] <Titan8990> RonDutt, check the --perms option, not certain
[05:48] <_2> rip_ the logical oppisite is -i interactive
[05:48] <JamesG> Hi. I'm on a machine which was installed as a server.. ie, no X.. ie, Googling = tricky. Can anyone tell me how to convert this into a machine which inits straight into X?
[05:48] <jeff__> can  i know rm rf can use like low format or not?
[05:48] <Titan8990> !pastebin | alap
[05:49] <Titan8990> alap, upload the whole dmesg there
[05:49] <_2> jeff__ you want shred
[05:49] <rip_> _2: didnt know about -i, but -rf was what i was trying to remember.  -i makes more sense
[05:49] <maxime> I like this chan, pretty friendly
[05:49] <_2> rip_ debian based distros generally don't alias the rm command so -f generally isn't needed or wanted
[05:49] <redline565353> ok i pressed e to edit the kernal and i got "<OOTFLAGS=syncio" do i put a space?
[05:49]  * rip_ cheers maxime
[05:50] <Titan8990> that was what the entire kernel line said?
[05:51] <bernz> JamesG, if you've already installed and set up X, probably just add 'startx' to the end of one of your startup scripts (look in /etc/rc?.d/*
[05:51] <redline565353> no thats after the rootflags bit i didnt scroll back to see rest
[05:51] <_2> rip_ redhat based distros generally "did" alias rm="rm -i"   so -f was needed to counter act the -i
[05:51] <rip_> _2: ooooh ok, gotchya
[05:51] <usser> JamesG, did u install x server?
[05:51] <Titan8990> redline565353, yes, put a space, but it usually ends in:  splash quiet
[05:51] <Titan8990> redline565353, I have never used wubi though
[05:51] <JamesG> bernz: I haven't yet. I assume that, since there's a desktop version, there might be a package I can use.
[05:51] <alap> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117539/
[05:51] <rip_> _2: yea the last time i did any file manipulation was back in like 2000 on redhat
[05:52] <rip_> _2: using shell**
[05:52] <usser> JamesG, you generally don want to install gnome or any metapackage like ubuntu-desktop on a server it has so much cruft
[05:52] <bernz> JamesG, yep, i just can't think of the package name off-hand (it's probably not simply 'x')
[05:52] <JamesG> I did manage to do some googling via links (happy happy joy joy), and it appears to suggest the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:52] <JamesG> usser: It was installed as a server, I'm converting it to a desktop
[05:52] <bernz> oh yeah, perhaps xfce is lightweight enough
[05:52] <JamesG> I don't need lightweight :)
[05:52] <Titan8990> alap, thats code?
[05:52] <usser> JamesG, oh then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do
[05:52] <_2> rip_ yeah  that's why i mentioned it.   many people cut their teeth on rh# and now they just default to rm -f  everything
[05:53] <JamesG> Roger that
[05:53] <Titan8990> alap, was looking for dmesg
[05:53] <Titan8990> alap, did you compile the module from source?
[05:54] <Guest56595> does any1 know how to change the permissions on a locked file system file???
[05:55] <Anacranom> Guest56595, what is the path?
[05:55] <Guest56595> any1 here?
[05:56] <Guest56595> im tryn to put VPNC on my comp and its lockd
[05:56]  * _2 thinks Guest56595 can't see
[05:56] <redline565353> ok i've done that and now i'm in busybox what do i do next ?
[05:57] <Guest56595> what do u mean i cant see
[05:57] <RussM> Guest56595, VPNC? What's VPNC, and what do you mean by "locked"?
[05:57] <ScottG489> What command actually opens up the Network Connections window in ubuntu?
[05:57] <Anacranom> Guest56595, you have to be more elaborate with the question
[05:57] <alap> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117542/
[05:57] <Titan8990> Guest56595, remove noapic , keep acpi=off , doesn't work swap it. Is this new hardware?
[05:57] <bernz> ( VPNC == virtual private network computer? :-D ) i'm guessing 'VNC' is what was intended, or?
[05:58] <Titan8990> alap, did you compile this module from source?
[05:58] <RussM> bernz, Maybe Cisco's VPN client?
[05:58] <alap> Titan8990, yes
[05:58] <Titan8990> alap, where did you get it?
[05:58] <pegal_linux> konichiwa
[05:59] <bernz> RussM, i dunno... your guess is as good as mine
[05:59] <lvlefisto> !jp | pegal_linux
[05:59] <Guest56595> sry, Virtual p... network, its a program and i cant get it to ope... i dwn lwded it thre a terminal and i cant get to it
[05:59] <GBGames> I have a laptop that is still using 7.04, and I want to upgrade to 7.10. When I try to do so through the update manager, it tells me no valid mirror found, apparently because it simply replaces feisty with gutsy while leaving the old-releases instead of getting them from a valid URL.
[05:59] <bernz> VPN then
[05:59] <GBGames> Any ideas of what I need to do?
[05:59] <alap> Titan8990, its pl2303 code I had modified it with my view for learning purpose
[06:00] <Guest56595> did i explain it good enough?
[06:00] <Guest56595> lol
[06:00] <Titan8990> alap, you may be in the wrong channel for that
[06:00] <smokinjoe> Can anyone help I am trying to connect my vista laptop to Samba, I have my host name for my ubuntu machine but what password do I use, the one I used to set up Samba or Ubuntu?
[06:00] <RussM> Guest56595, OK, I'm guessing cisco's VPN client. So, you downloaded it in a terminal, but you can't get it to install? Still have the terminal open? What kind of file is it?
[06:00] <_2> GBGames yeah  manually change the sources.list and then try
[06:00] <Scunizi> !upgrade | GBGames
[06:01] <GBGames> Scunizi: Those upgrade notes aren't helpful for 7.04->7.10
[06:01] <_2> Scunizi won't work for him.   he'll have to edit his sources.list
[06:01] <bernz> Guest56595, okay, what did you mean by 'locked'?
[06:01] <RussM> Guest56595, Does the filename end with ".tar.gz"?
[06:01] <garbo> hello, i have tried to install 8.10 with 7gb for the root partition and 3 gbs for the home partition and 1 gb for the swap during half way of the installation i get  a hdd error, Is it because i need more space for the root partition?
[06:01] <alap> Titan8990, its drivrr  code for pl2303 serial cable
[06:01] <Scunizi> GBGames: separate your home to it's own partition and install the remainder of the system fresh..
[06:02] <_2> garbo absolutely not.
[06:02] <smokinjoe> !samba
[06:02] <fiasco|home> hey whats a driver I can install so my vista box can read my ext3 partition external hard drive
[06:03] <_2> garbo rootfs need only have enough room for the system and the primary packages.   thus 5g is more than enough
[06:03] <Titan8990> alap, yeah, but if you are trying to modify code and get it to work, you most likely want to be talking to other programmers
[06:03] <garbo> _2; than why do i only get that error with ubuntu? i tried 8.10 and 8.4  same thing but when i tried pclinuxos it instead fine with the same space
[06:03] <Guest56595> RussM i messaged u
[06:03] <smokinjoe> Trying to map a network drive anyone?
[06:04] <Titan8990> !ask | smokinjoe
[06:04] <fiasco|home> smokinjoe: yes but samba is slower
[06:04] <_2> garbo dont know why you get a disk error.  probably the install disk and not the target.   maybe not enough ram ?     but the target spaces well exceeds the needed.
[06:04] <bernz> smokinjoe, since you have only two options, you might as well try each in turn
[06:04] <Guest56595> SmokenJoe me2! if u find nething out u should message it to me
[06:04] <smokinjoe> What should I use??
[06:04] <quibbler> fiasco|home: look here: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:04] <bernz> smokinjoe, but you can be certain by understanding a little more
[06:04] <garbo> _2: i have 1gb of ram  and the 8.10 disk is new its from shipit
[06:05] <badfish69> how can i create a dvd disc out of mpeg files?
[06:05] <Titan8990> smokinjoe, ftp :)
[06:05] <garbo> _2: every other distro works fine its just ubuntu  weird @_@
[06:05] <smokinjoe> I want to map a network drive on my vista laptop
[06:05] <_2> garbo i installed ubuntu 6.6 on a p1 with 128m ram and 2g hdd    so it's not the space.
[06:05] <bernz> smokinjoe, i think you'll want to use your samba password, because i think what you're trying to do is get samba to pretend to be windows-friendly, so it needs an authorization (windows networking)... i could be wrong, but you'll never know unless you read about it at the samba homesite... :-D
[06:05] <Guest56595> RUSSM ru there?
[06:05] <Titan8990> smokinjoe, webDAV, if you want it to be fast
[06:05] <smokinjoe> I tried connecting to ubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <mib_hjbqwz> can someone open the package manager and see it they can search for something called kvm. I found it when i was on the live cd but now i installed ubuntu and cant find it so i would like someone else to try
[06:06] <usser> badfish69, try devede
[06:06] <oss> What command actually opens up the Network Connections window in ubuntu?
[06:06] <alap> Titan8990, yes you are right but i am asking about error message at the time of modprobe because if there is any problem in program den it will not work but it will get installed atleast
[06:06] <_2> garbo if ubuntu ever requires 7g of rootfs just to install.  i'll stop supporting it.
[06:06] <badfish69> i fotgot all about devede
[06:06] <badfish69> thanks
[06:06] <garbo> _2: so space is not a problem than what coud it be,,,,,,, it actually installed inside windows but with live installer it did not
[06:07] <_2> garbo idk.    have you tried the "alternate install" iso ?
[06:07] <joshjtl> is VLC qt, or gtk?
[06:07] <Titan8990> alap, did you build that against your current running kernel source code?
[06:07] <joshjtl> i was about to install it, and it wanted to install a bunch of qt libs... i was surprised
[06:07] <oss> <
[06:07] <garbo> _2: that's a problem i don't have any spare cds :-( i am only using the ones i got from the mail
[06:08] <quibbler> mib_hjbqwz: i have kvm in synaptic
[06:08] <usser> joshjtl, they switched from wxwidgets to qt in 0.9
[06:08] <joshjtl> oh lame
[06:08] <mib_hjbqwz> what would be causing it to nt show up on mine?
[06:08] <bernz> smokinjoe, you mean you want a linux drive to appear on your vista machine as a drive letter?
[06:09] <Titan8990> alap, no idea on the last two errors but if I had to guess I would say that the first error was due the module not being compiled with the kernel source...
[06:09] <Titan8990> alap, other than that wild guess, I don't think I will be of much help
[06:09] <alap> Titan8990, yes its giving warning messages at registration of driver but kernel is building module without any error
[06:09] <mib_hjbqwz> and how do i check what my kernal version is
[06:09] <Anacranom> alap, Titan8990 ,  2.6.24~ looks like older kernel, what you trying to compile to?
[06:09] <garbo> _2: is installing inside windows and live installer the same things? performance wise?
[06:10] <Titan8990> Anacranom, not that old, 2.6.29-r3 is the latest stable....
[06:10] <atom^x> mib_hjbqwz, uname  -a
[06:10] <quibbler> mib_hjbqwz: to check  your kernal:  uname -a
[06:10] <redline565353> i'm going to give up i think i never had any problems installing all diff versions apart from a few drivers but now cant even get up and running :(
[06:11] <_2> joshjtl the version of vlc in dapper isn't dependant on either qt or gtk
[06:11] <Titan8990> redline565353, i blame wubi
[06:11] <garbo> do you get the same performance if you install via wubi?
[06:11] <redline565353> i dont know what to do then cos my cd drive dont work and i cant boot from usb :/
[06:11] <_2> garbo no.  you will take a performance hit when you install within wubi
[06:12] <garbo> _2: ok thanks
[06:12] <alap> Anacranom, trying to compile a driver
[06:12] <quibbler> garbo: no
[06:12] <mib_hjbqwz> is this the newest one Linux Ubuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:42:44 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux?
[06:12] <Titan8990> redline565353, virtualbox
[06:12] <Anacranom> Titan8990, yes, but big difference when 8.04 uses .24 and 8.10 uses .27, and lots of things broke in 8.10
[06:12] <usser> mib_hjbqwz, im on 2.6.27-11 here
[06:13] <BIAF> Hi, anyone know the best ubuntu channel to get help in relation to ISPConfig / Ubuntu
[06:13] <atom^x> mib_hjbqwz,  dont think so
[06:13] <redline565353> but wont that have about the same performance as windows?
[06:13] <_2> usser 2.6.15-53-686 here :)))
[06:13] <Titan8990> redline565353, lol yes, but not if you run something like fluxbox
[06:13] <BIAF> @ me usser?
[06:13] <mib_hjbqwz> o, i had ubuntu installed earlier and it updated the kernal and then i reinstalled it
[06:13] <mib_hjbqwz> how do i update the ernal?
[06:14] <mib_hjbqwz> kernal*
[06:14] <Titan8990> mib_hjbqwz, update manager
[06:14] <mib_hjbqwz> Titan8990: thanks
[06:14] <Titan8990> mib_hjbqwz, np
[06:15] <garbo> Anacranom: what broke in 8.10
[06:16] <bernz> smokinjoe, perhaps the best thing to do is read about smb.conf
[06:16] <mib_hjbqwz> could an older kernal be causing kvm not be listed in the package manager?
[06:16] <_2> mib_hjbqwz or apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:16] <Anacranom> garbo, lots
[06:16] <usser> mib_hjbqwz, most likely you dont have some repositories enabled, multiverse, universe?
[06:17] <bernz> smokinjoe, or maybe read about SWAT (samba web administration tool)
[06:17] <_2> mib_hjbqwz that will update the kernel if there is a newer version in the same release
[06:17] <redline565353> would you know why my cd drive boots from my "backup xp cd" and wont read linux ones properly?
[06:17] <IX26> exit
[06:18] <_2> redline565353 not burned correctly ?
[06:18] <mib_hjbqwz> _2: i am just using the update manager and doing them all
[06:18] <redline565353> they burned the same way same prog they work on this comp but only xp cd does on other
[06:18] <_2> redline565353 or the xp cd may just bounce to the hidden partition and the boot actually happen there
[06:18] <_2> mib_hjbqwz k
[06:19] <djhash> redline565353: old computer?
[06:19] <redline565353> it's an advent 6418 about 4 years old
[06:19] <mib_hjbqwz> usser: all them are checked, just not source code
[06:19] <quibbler> mib_hjbqwz: use synaptic
[06:19] <papna> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases claims that Jaunty will have Pidgin 2.6, which is bogus (that may or may not exist by April, if nothing else). Is there someone who knows what software Jaunty will include who can correct the list in the article?
[06:19] <Anacranom> garbo, i have 8 boxes, varying hardware, things that just worked OOTB in 8.04, dont in 8.10, granted (most) its fixed since its release, but not good from start
[06:20] <Titan8990> !jaunty | papna
[06:20] <mib_hjbqwz> oh, on the third party tab those arent checked
[06:20] <Titan8990> papna, you can download the daily snapshot if you want
[06:20] <redline565353> is 8.04 better?
[06:20] <Titan8990> redline565353, it is the lts release
[06:20] <Titan8990> !lts | redline565353
[06:20] <papna> Titan8990, I am not interested in the information, I am interested in the wikipedia article being correct but without doing any real research myself.
[06:20] <_2> Anacranom 8.4 should be getting pretty stable by now too
[06:20] <redline565353> hmmmmm
[06:21] <Titan8990> papna, lol
[06:21] <redline565353> cos i've tried with my 7.04 and 7.10 and 8.10 with no joy so far
[06:21] <Titan8990> papna, i think pidgin has their own repositories
[06:22] <Anacranom> redline565353, .04 is supported longer, 9.04 will be released in a few months,
[06:22] <papna> Titan8990, Pidgin doesn't have their own repositories in any meaningful way (they have a public Hg and releases on their website), but no matter what they're not up to 2.6 anywhere, and even if they were, Jaunty probably won't have it.
[06:22] <_2> redline565353 sounds like you have some phenikey hardware
[06:22] <Anacranom> redline565353, tried what?
[06:22] <atom^x> papna, I am interested in a paycheck, but not the work!
[06:23] <_2> atom^x you too ?
[06:23] <redline565353> the thing is i can and have installed many versions of windows legal and not but i want linux :(
[06:23] <papna> Titan8990, The oddest thing is that the one reference was to the history of the Pidgin package. This was my third time seeing if anyone else wanted to fix it. I'll just delete that part of the article if no one wants to.
[06:23] <Titan8990> papna, so you already knew the answer?
[06:23] <atom^x> _2, you bet
[06:24] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone ever gone through the full install of 8.1 server on a proliant 5500 and then on reboot, it says "error loading OS"
[06:24] <papna> Titan8990, I don't know what the Pidgin version will be (just that the article is incorrect), I don't no how to read the cited source, and I don't trust any of the other information.
[06:24] <Titan8990> jeeves_Moss, that occur before grub screen?
[06:25] <Anacranom> redline565353, ok, i'm lost as to what you want.. but i am a recent total windows convert
[06:25] <jeeves_Moss> I don't even get a grub
[06:25] <Titan8990> !grub | jeeves_Moss
[06:25] <Titan8990> jeeves_Moss, need to make sure its installed
[06:25] <_2> jeeves_Moss there is no 8.1  8.18 you mean ?
[06:25] <Titan8990> jeeves_Moss, are you using RAID?
[06:26] <jeeves_Moss> Titan8990, yes, it's a RAID box
[06:26] <Droopsta915> can I burn an ubuntu .iso image on a dvd? If so, can I burn multiple .iso images on dvd, and are they bootable?
[06:26] <redline565353> anacranom im trying to get linux on my laptop scos im fed up with windows
[06:26] <_2> !version | jeeves_Moss not like it matters
[06:26] <Anacranom> redline565353, and what is stopping you?
[06:26] <Titan8990> jeeves_Moss, use the restore grub link and see if you can get grub
[06:27] <redline565353> cant install
[06:27] <_2> !release | jeeves_Moss not like it matters   (sorry)
[06:27] <_2> first one was an ooops
[06:28] <Droopsta915> redline565353:Did you download the Ubuntu .iso?
[06:28] <redline565353> yea
[06:28] <kv0nza> hey i was trying to install ubuntu (as well as alot of other distros) and none of them seem to install, they get stuck on the "Loading" section of the install and because it is for all the distros i have tried i am going to take a guess that it could be a driver problem
[06:29] <_2> Droopsta915 you can burn one iso to dvd and it will be bootable   you can copy several iso images to a dvd and they will not be bootable but will be accessable as iso files
[06:29] <kv0nza> is there any way to check if my hardware is compatible?
[06:30] <_2> kv0nza some hardware specs ?
[06:30] <_2> !hardware | kv0nza
[06:31] <Droopsta915> _2: sounds like I will be booting from dvd, thanks.
[06:32] <kv0nza> here is my specs
[06:32] <kv0nza> http://www.d-a-l.com/hardware-scanner/app/results.php?id=d2778c24040d5e35ae595441f98b2280
[06:32] <_2> Droopsta915 note.  there is a dvd iso   it contains more software and more boot options
[06:33] <casdf> hi, im having trouble connecting to a WPA2 PEAP network using network-manager
[06:33] <Droopsta915> redline565353:Why can't you install?
[06:33] <asc> Is there a reason 8.10 was shipped with networking that doesn't work?
[06:33] <usser> asc, what do you mean?
[06:33] <Droopsta915> asc: I don't like 8.10, I went back to 8.04 myself.
[06:34] <casdf> well, drats. im on 8.10 btw
[06:34] <asc> usser: After restarting, networking is down. This is kind of unfunny when you're trying to do networking things on a tty.
[06:34] <kv0nza> can u see anything there that might be problemmatic
[06:35] <asc> Droopsta915: Unfortunately, they somehow managed to break ion3 on 8.04 so it doesn't work at all :p
[06:35] <_2>  * Total Current Physical Memory: 4.00 GB
[06:35] <_2> * Maximum Memory Capacity: 2.00 GB
[06:35] <_2> hehhee
[06:35] <ice_cream> shot down
[06:35] <kv0nza> lol i am running x64
[06:35] <kv0nza> stupid scanner >_>
[06:35] <Droopsta915> asc: ;)
[06:36] <asc> Well, that and wine constantly segfaulted under 64-bit. I'm hoping that it works on 8.10_x64 or I'm going to get really tetchy.
[06:36] <asc> *with a particular program
[06:36] <kv0nza> i can't boot a live cd or a widows install using wubi either
[06:37] <casdf> anyone have help for WPA2 on 8.10?
[06:37] <Droopsta915> kv0nza: did you change the boot sequence?
[06:38] <kv0nza> i have no idea what that means lol, i am a "noob" at linux and am trying to reinstall as i had it on my old machine
[06:38] <kv0nza> i am running it straight off the cd using the install option
[06:38] <kv0nza> then it just gets stuck and i have to do a hard restart
[06:41] <Droopsta915> kv0nza: When your system is starting up, look for the setup menu, it's quick. On my laptop I hit F12 at the first screen. That takes me to the boot menu.
[06:41] <Tyrath> could anyone help me diagnose my wireless problem?
[06:41] <MiladKhajavi> how can I get the amount size of a directory with command line?
[06:41] <asc> MiladKhajavi: du -hs directory-name
[06:41] <kv0nza> oh u mean like what device it read from first
[06:41] <kv0nza> is*
[06:41] <kv0nza> yea the cd is loading
[06:42] <Droopsta915> kv0nza:You can change the boot sequence, and make the Ubuntu cd boot from disk at start up.
[06:42] <alap> Titan8990,then please tell me where should i ask for this problem
[06:42] <MiladKhajavi> asc: thanks
[06:42] <kv0nza> but i can;t do into live desktop view or install
[06:42] <kv0nza> it just gets stuck
[06:42] <anom01y> anyone know how to detect usb devices in xfce ? I can't even locate a usb memory stick in /dev..
[06:44] <bernz> anom01y, fwiw, i'm having a USB issue in which devices aren't detected, but it seems to be because my mobo-integrated hosts controllers aren't being initialized (don't yet know why)
[06:44] <Droopsta915> !mount
[06:44] <bernz> anom01y, you might want to at least 'lsusb' to see if your hosts are working
[06:45] <Droopsta915> !usb
[06:45] <anom01y> bernz, yeah I see it there, but where is it in /dev, and how to I make xfce automatically detect it when it gets plugged in ?
[06:45] <quibbler> kv0nza: have you check the integrity of the cd ...one of the options is to check the cd
[06:46] <shad_> ubottu, how to make a memory test in ubuntu
[06:46] <Droopsta915> !memory test
[06:46] <bernz> anom01y, generally, it will show up in dev as 'sdx' ('sdx1', 'sdx2', ...) where 'x' is 'a', 'b', 'c', ... depending on how many disks are attached
[06:47] <casdf> so if i were to follow the tutorial on here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539 what would be the next step? once its config'ed, how do i actively connect?
[06:47] <anom01y> bernz, yeah sounds good. I found out how to solve my prob.
[06:47] <bernz> anom01y, as for auto-mounting, you can specify that in fstab ('man fstab'), but i don't know about getting an icon to appear on the desktop automagically
[06:47] <brianski> am i the only person having trouble with my hda intel sound device recently?
[06:47] <bernz> anom01y, okay, cool
[06:47] <brianski> (on intrepid)
[06:47] <shad_> Droopsta915, to handle something like bad sector, defragmentation etc
[06:48] <Droopsta915> anom01y:my usb shows up in /dev/media
[06:48] <bernz> Droopsta915, don't you mean '/media/[name-of-volume]'?
[06:48] <Droopsta915> shad_:thanks
[06:49] <Droopsta915> anom01y:my usb shows up in /dev/media/disk
[06:49] <shad_> ubottu, how to know which distributor is i am using
[06:50] <bernz> Droopsta915, in that case, your udev is ill and needs love :-)
[06:50] <Droopsta915> anom01y:Do you dual boot, with Windows?
[06:50] <anom01y> Droopsta915, nope
[06:50] <Droopsta915> bernz:Oh, I luv it all night ;)
[06:50] <casdf> is there a way to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?
[06:51] <casdf> without wiping and reinstalling
[06:52] <quibbler> casdf: no
[06:52] <Droopsta915> anom01y:I'm asking because I couldn't get my new flash drive to mount, but I went into my xp box and it automatically detected it. I got back into Ubuntu and there it is, I don't know what happened, but it mounted.
[06:52] <mib_pythcb> Memtest86 shows 509mb ram but dosn't show errors when i run it, ubuntu wont boot. do i have a ram prob. i have a 512 stick installed!
[06:53] <Droopsta915> mib_pythcb: have you tried changing the boot sequence? I changed the device to boot from cd and was able to install
[06:54] <casdf> so from what im reading, 8.04's network manager worked, and 8.10's is borked...
[06:55] <bernz> casdf, that's for wireless, or? (i'm running 8.10 on LAN... LAN never has problems :-)
[06:56] <Tyrath> what do people make of this: http://pastebin.com/f38a7e827    - is there something wrong here?
[06:57] <mib_pythcb> Droopstar915: live cd crashes, ubuntu is all ready installed, I did have a bad 1gig stick that showed bad mem 639mb, but it would boot
[06:58] <shad_> any one can tell me ,how i know whether my processor is of 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:58]  * |Sigma| waves
[06:58] <mib_pythcb> Droopstar915: Im just trying to get my computer running un i get the mem replaced
[06:58]  * redline565353 waves back
[06:59] <bernz> Tyrath, looks like the WAP is "old" -- the client is requesting something and timing out awaiting a response? (and it loops)... looks "wrong"
[07:00] <anom01y> anyone know how to access usb devices through xfce ?
[07:00] <axscode> hi guys i have a problem.. segment fault on nautilus
[07:00] <bernz> Tyrath, i'm not really that familiar with low-level wifi problems, but a lot of times, a misconfiguration results in counter-intuitive errors, and you end up blaming a mistyped network key on something more exotic
[07:00] <axscode> is there anyway to know how to isolate the problem?
[07:00] <anom01y> there is no links, hints, messages nothing regarding the usb stick I just plugged in to a 100% working usb port and stick.
[07:00] <alap> Titan8990, then please tell me where should i ask for this problem
[07:01] <bernz> (like "mysterious RF interference" -- although my microwave temporarily blots out my WiFi at home -- kinda creepy)
[07:01] <Droopsta915> I'm a reinstall junky, if I can't fix a problem in 24 hours (me sitting at computer for 24 hours) I reinstall and fix it.;)
[07:01] <bernz> Droopsta915, do you ever end up actual configuring a system to your liking? ;-p
[07:01] <slowaris> does ubuntu has plugin/extension for grammar checker in openoffice?
[07:02] <bernz> actually, even
[07:02] <shad_> Droopsta915, can u tell me how to know that my processor is of 32 or 64 bit
[07:02] <RussM> shad cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:03] <Droopsta915> bernz:Yes, I reinstalled 8.04 and got it to my liking. I don't think I've reinstalled in at least 6 months. Hardy is my heroe!
[07:03] <Titan8990> alap, I am unsure really, sorry I couldn't help more
[07:03] <Titan8990> alap, or at all really....
[07:03] <bernz> Droopsta915, awesome, I'm only having one major issue (USB) with 8.10, but I didn't even try 8.04 (maybe I should just give the live CD a try to see if all my USB hosts work)
[07:04] <bernz> anom01y, you can watch the kernel messages to see if it at least detects your stick
[07:05] <bestus> CLARA
[07:05] <bernz> anom01y, maybe something like 'tail -f /var/log/messages'
[07:05] <Droopsta915> shad_: open a terminal and type sudo lshw, that will give you all your computer specifications, hope it helps.
[07:05] <bernz> anom01y, and then plug in your device and watch for "chatter"
[07:05] <slowaris> anyone?
[07:06] <doubletoker> hey, I been reading the site
[07:06] <doubletoker> I can't seem to get my ubuntu to work wireless
[07:06] <appledoze> hey!
[07:06] <appledoze> hi
[07:07] <Droopsta915> slowaris:It should detect a misspelled word automatically.
[07:07] <axscode> help
[07:07] <axscode> someone knows how to trace problem when nautilus have a segfault?
[07:07] <appledoze> when i get to the boot screen and i choose ubuntu it takes me to the grub4dos screen
[07:07] <bernz> if it's reproducible, gdb?
[07:08] <doubletoker> it says disabled, I got it to work once, but messed up my install, so I reinstalled the whole system, now it don't work again, not sure if anyone can help, got a laptop, amd64 and lshw says disabled next to it
[07:08] <Droopsta915> doubletoker:go to system>hardware drivers and make sure you have your proprietary drivers working.
[07:08] <doubletoker> does anyone know how to make it say 1 or 0 next to it
[07:08] <appledoze> this happens when i install it as an application of windows, or through wubi
[07:08] <doubletoker> it doesn't show up in the list
[07:08] <casdf> bernz: yeah LAN works great, but uh
[07:08] <bernz> casdf, you need wireless, right?
[07:08] <Tyrath> bernz: is there a way I could update my WAP?
[07:09] <casdf> bernz: ive been reading that wifi, esp. wpa2, is a step back
[07:09] <slowaris> for now it's on text based after upgrading to 8.10,anyone how can i modify my image background after bios boot time?
[07:09] <|Sigma|> anyone interested in giving me a hand? I have a strange problem... wireless card refuses to get an ipv4 address, but it manages to get an ipv6 easily enough
[07:09] <doubletoker> Droopsta915: it doesn't show up in that list of the proprietary drivers
[07:09] <bernz> Tyrath, i guess i'd check the manufacturer site to see if there's a firmware update or something; often it fixes bugs, especially in encryption and authentication routines
[07:09] <Droopsta915> splash!
[07:09] <doubletoker> but it shows the interface
[07:10] <Droopsta915> !splash
[07:10] <axscode> how about nautilus
[07:10] <bernz> Tyrath, but that's assuming the WAP is the culprit, which is just a guess... i'd reconfigure everything carefully to make sure you aren't missing any settings, or haven't botched any (typos, etc)
[07:10] <Droopsta915> what brand laptop or comp you have?
[07:11] <doubletoker> Compaq
[07:11] <bernz> casdf, well, wep is long dead, and wpa is no longer considered secure, but wpa2 is the best thing available *commonly*, so it's worth trying to get it working as opposed to leaving a WAP unsecured
[07:11] <doubletoker> laptop
[07:12] <slowaris> Droopsta915: is that splash you mean after bios or is that the background image when the login prompts?
[07:12] <appledoze> how do i boot ubuntu from the grub4dos screen?
[07:12] <bernz> casdf, however, if you're reasonably sure you won't suffer abuse (e.g. unplug WAN cable to WAP if applicable), then disable all security and try to get things working that way first
[07:12] <appledoze> always takes me there when i select it in the boot select
[07:13] <Droopsta915> slowaris: Its the screen you get at login, is that what you mean?
[07:13] <kindofabuzz> what is the exact meaning of a "%U" after a command?
[07:13] <kindofabuzz> as in gedit %U
[07:14] <Tyrath> bernz: well if used ifup and ifdown, dhcpclient -r, removing problems out of /etc/network/interfaces. Not sure what else it could be
[07:14] <Tyrath> bernz: i've also tried inserting my wireless MAC address into the gnome GUI thing
[07:15] <crdlb> kindofabuzz: "A list of URLs."
[07:15] <Droopsta915> !ndiswrapper
[07:15] <crdlb> kindofabuzz: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html
[07:15] <bernz> Tyrath, when i had wifi problems on my kubuntu (this laptop) installation, i ended up having to edit config files manually and so on, and even afterward (when wifi was working), the GUI network manager wasn't "synced"
[07:15] <kindofabuzz> crdlb, thanks
[07:15] <trygg> any good rpg thats not roguelike? :D
[07:16] <bernz> Tyrath, maybe that link triggered by Droopsta915 will be of use
[07:16] <bernz> Tyrath, otherwise, i'm afraid it's 'man' time
[07:18] <bernz> (e.g. 'man interfaces')
[07:18] <casdf> bernz: im at a public university trying to connect to their wpa2 peap network, not setting up a home router
[07:19] <bernz> casdf, ahh, well it's a lot trickier when you don't control all the machines... i'm sorry, i don't know much about peap (eap)
[07:19] <slowaris> Droopsta915: i dont want to modify the screen during login but before login screen just after bios
[07:19] <circusbred> bernz: i control EVERY machine
[07:20]  * bernz yanks out his LAN cable@!#!@$NO CARRIER
[07:20] <slowaris> i have already modify my login background  image but the booting time just after the bios i must modify it
[07:21] <Droopsta915> slowaris:When you start up, pay close attention, you will get a setup option. Like F12 or something, it's quick, but if you hit it fast enough you can get into the setup menu or boot menu
[07:21] <bernz> it sounds like slowaris is maybe talking about the 'ubuntu' progress meter (which first ping-pongs, then fills up) screen
[07:22] <amarcy2> anybody good with fn key mapping?
[07:22] <slowaris> bernz yes
[07:22] <amarcy2> pm me if you know anything about fn key mapping
[07:23] <circusbred> how to the shut down key?!
[07:23] <slowaris> bernz yes that's it.how do i modify it?
[07:23] <bernz> slowaris, okay, well, at least everyone knows which screen you're talking about... not sure how to do it, myself
[07:24] <Droopsta915> slowaris:You mean the seconds you get before login?
[07:24] <wahnfrieden> hi y'all
[07:24] <CaneToad> my audio isn't working in intrepid and I think pulse has something to do with it.....  any recommendations?
[07:24] <wahnfrieden> can i listen to music on UBUNTU?
[07:25] <kingsley_> When a BIOS is configured to boot from the CD drive before the hard disk, and a 8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso CD is in the CD drive, pressing the reset button results in the message "Boot from CD", but then tries to run an old copy of windows on the hard drive. What else, if anything, should be done to boot from the CD?
[07:25] <wahnfrieden> i wanna jam out to some house
[07:25] <bernz> slowaris, i don't even know the proper name of that screen :-) i guess i'd call it the "startup" screen?
[07:25] <CaneToad> kingsley_ works for me... can you read the CD on another PC?
[07:26] <kingsley_> CaneToad: That's a good idea. I may try to boot it with qemu.
[07:26] <Droopsta915> slowaris: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   and look for the timeout sec. It's set to 10 sec. Change the 10 to whatever and save the file.
[07:27] <wahnfrieden> how do i saved file?
[07:27] <pstickne> what is the different between the adm and admin groups?
[07:27] <pstickne> *difference
[07:28] <wahnfrieden> What is the difference between the adm and admin user groups?
[07:28] <SJ2000> Pulseaudio on Intrepid keeps throwing a "W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader." error in the syslog, also after a few minutes after login the sound get's "caught" on a segment and repeats it ad infinitum. Are the two related?
[07:29] <Flannel> wahnfrieden, pstickne: admin is the group for sudo stuff. adm is for system tasks (/var/log stuff)
[07:30] <wahnfrieden> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[07:30] <wahnfrieden> what?
[07:30] <Flannel> wahnfrieden: What don't you understand?
[07:30] <Droopsta915> !sudo
[07:30] <nnull> !eeepc > me
[07:31] <wahnfrieden> flannel went out in the 80s
[07:32] <Droopsta915> wahnfrieden: off topic
[07:32] <pstickne> Flannel:  thanks
[07:32] <wahnfrieden>  ?
[07:32] <Droopsta915> ?
[07:33] <wahnfrieden> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:33] <Flannel> wahnfrieden: Please stay on topic.
[07:33] <AETE_KRAOUD> hi all
[07:33] <Droopsta915> wahnfrieden: Think of root or superuser (sudo) as the admin
[07:34] <pstickne> (or, simply "god"; little-g though)
[07:34] <wahnfrieden> can you tell me, is there some rivalry between yall and Slackware?
[07:34] <wahnfrieden> there seems to be whenever i ask slcakwares about a question
[07:34] <bolting> ok well i update my system and still cat get all the packages to be listed in synaptic
[07:34] <bolting> what can i try now?
[07:34] <Droopsta915> wahnfrieden:!unix
[07:34] <pstickne> "requested by" :-)
[07:34] <Droopsta915> !unix
[07:34] <SJ2000> !pulseaudio > me
[07:34] <anima_> can someone help me install a .bin file?
[07:35] <Droopsta915> !Linux
[07:35] <SJ2000> !why-pulseaudio-drives-me-insane > me
[07:35] <SJ2000> Damn :P
[07:35] <Droopsta915> !Ubuntu
[07:35] <Flannel> !botabuse | Droopsta915
[07:35] <Droopsta915> ok ill stop ;)
[07:36] <anima_> I d/l'd GoogleEarth, but I have no idea what the commands are to install it.
[07:36] <bolting> any help?
[07:36] <violetdream> is there any way to get dpkg to install to another drive (folder)? I tried --root and --instaldir but I don't think I was doing it correctly
[07:36] <Flannel> anima_: medibuntu has google earth packaged, you really should use that one.
[07:36] <eitreach> I have trouble using USB in Virtualbox in Intrepid. I have followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB but I am not sure I have done everything correctly. Could someone take me through ie, step by step?
[07:37] <slowaris> Droopsta915: no it's not the grub menu that i want but after that menu is what i want to load a background image. im sorry i fint it hard to describe
[07:37] <anima_> Flannel, I know you understand what you just said, but I have no idea what it means.  Can you point me to what you're referring to?
[07:37] <ramontayag> what's the best way to implement those first-time-boxes in rails? the boxes that show up the first time you go to a page, then if you close them they never show up again for that page.  these are mostly used as a tutorial for the user.
[07:37] <ramontayag> gah wrong room sorry. 2nd time today
[07:37] <Droopsta915> anima: Hope this helps you...http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/24/install-google-earth-on-ubuntu-804/
[07:37] <AETE_KRAOUD> i lost more than 10 hours trying to install vpython aka( visual python 3d..) but how to installed ??? i tried both from source and the repositories ... and i got confused . When i tried to to type in python interpreter import visual i got  -- > RuntimeError: Neither Numeric nor numarray could be found. BUT i am sure i have installed the numeric python module !! what to do guys ? i am exhausted  ?:(
[07:37] <Dolo> how do you pick the best linux distro to use?
[07:38] <SJ2000> Has anyone seen "Failed to find original dlopen loader." in their syslog in relation to PulseAudio lately? If so, any sound issues?
[07:38] <Flannel> anima_: Medibuntu is a third party repository, http://www.medibuntu.org/  you can either just add that repos to your sources (instructions there) so you can freely install all of the software it as to offer through package management, or just pick google earth itself to install (and download the deb, install it)
[07:38] <Flannel> Dolo: You should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks
[07:38] <anima_> OK I'll try that, and thank you both.
[07:38] <kingsley_> CaneToad: Is it realistic to expect that a bootable CD of 8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso can be burned with the application named "k3b"?
[07:38] <AETE_KRAOUD> please how tell how to make  vpython  work ? i lost all my day in that i use 64 bit ubuntu interpid
[07:40] <Droopsta915> slowaris:I've never done that, I can't help you sorry. I'm still learning myself. The problems you run into are what make you a better Ubuntu user. read read read. ;)
[07:40] <bolting> can anyone help me, or maybe direct me to the correct place?
[07:40] <ashlessburn> what u need
[07:40] <ashlessburn> try iso kingsley
[07:41] <CaneToad> kingsley_ yeah but when you burned it, did you (1) burn the ISO as a file on the CD, or (2) burn the ISO to the CD such that the CD is identical to the contents of the ISO, ie multiple files etc
[07:41] <bolting> i am trying to get the package manager to list some packages, like kvm, but it says not found. but it was there when i was on the live cd.
[07:41] <slowaris> Droopsta915: ive changed this before but i forgot the website that i followed hehehehe
[07:41] <slowaris> damn me
[07:41] <slowaris> hehehe
[07:41] <ashlessburn> hmm use the debian based web wiur repo
[07:41] <AETE_KRAOUD> from synaptic alla the dependencies seems to be satisfied but when i tried to import vpython i get the  RuntimeError:  Numeric not found but i am pretty sure it is installed and it imports from python
[07:41] <AETE_KRAOUD> why does ubuntu claims it works
[07:42] <AETE_KRAOUD> vpython doesn't work in ubuntu 64 bit i claim
[07:42] <Droopsta915> bolting: go to system-software sources
[07:42] <AETE_KRAOUD> and please help me
[07:42] <bolting> ashlessburn: are you tellin me to use that repo or someone else?
[07:42] <bolting> Droopsta915: ok
[07:42] <ashlessburn> yea
[07:43] <ashlessburn> there is a forum for kvm and related for some odd r fineeason debian works just
[07:43] <kingsley_> CaneToad: I assume I burned the ISO as one big file, because that's how k3b has worked for me in the past. However, it does balk with this ISO about the filename being too long for a joliet file system, which is something I've never seen before.
[07:43] <Droopsta915> bolting: mow check the box above source code
[07:43] <CaneToad> kingsley_ ok you did the wrong thing
[07:43] <bolting> ok it was already
[07:43] <ashlessburn> lol k im out
[07:43] <ashlessburn> night guys
[07:44] <CaneToad> kingsley_ hangon I'll start up k3b and tell ya
[07:44] <bolting> ashlessburn: where do i find that repo
[07:44] <bolting> darn
[07:44] <Droopsta915> bolting: now go to the third party tab and check everything except the cdrom box
[07:44] <AETE_KRAOUD> does anybosy have ever tested if vpython works in ubuntu 64 bit 8.10 ? in mine it does not work!!! I am so tired lost so many hours i did everything to make it work damned and i am confused why doesn't work?
[07:44] <Flannel> !repeat | AETE_KRAOUD
[07:45] <CaneToad> kingsley_ you need to run K3B and then from the menu choose Tools/Burn CD Image, and then choose the iso file as the image to burn
[07:45] <Flannel> AETE_KRAOUD: You may have more luck in #python, or whatever other channels may be appropraite
[07:45] <bolting> there is no cdrom box, just two for conanical
[07:45] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, : nice idea
[07:45] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel,  : but
[07:45] <SJ2000> Basically what ubottu is saying is send your message to /dev/null
[07:45] <anima_> Flannel, I now have two googleearth icons on my menu, neither of which work.  *sigh*  they released 5.0 today which I was hoping would help.
[07:46] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, : i think is might be a problem of ubuntu repositories "claiming" it works but vpython does not work
[07:46] <bolting> Droopsta915: what do i do next
[07:46] <Droopsta915> bolting: ok check those and then go to the updates tab, check import security,  Recommended updates, and back-ports
[07:47] <bolting> k
[07:47] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, :  ok i will try to go to the #python
[07:47] <kingsley_> CaneToad: Indeed, that's different that how I usually burn linux CDs. I usually do: run k3b -> click on "New Data CD Project" -> drag the filename down to the project area -> click on burn.
[07:48] <CaneToad> kingsley_ yup that's right....you'll never get a bootable CD unless you use this approach
[07:48] <Droopsta915> bolting: now do you see the new installs arrow on the top right?
[07:48] <bolting> i see an update icon on the taskbar ny the clock, is that it?
[07:49] <googleguo> hello
[07:49] <kingsley_> CaneToad: Do you happen to know why ubuntu requires this approach, and other linux CDs do not?
[07:49] <anima_> ok, so to remove these two failing googleearths...I do what?
[07:49] <kindofabuzz> no that's the icon that pretends it the updates, yes that's it
[07:49] <anima_> they aren't in the regular add/remove thing.
[07:49] <anima_> the synaptics thing is giving me an error.
[07:49] <CaneToad> kingsley_ have you used k3b in the past to do this, or other burning software?
[07:49] <googleguo> cls
[07:49] <kingsley_> CaneToad: I've used k3b in the past.
[07:50] <Droopsta915> bolting: yes, update your system and then check for the application you want in, the synaptic package manager or the applications add/remove . you should find what you need
[07:50] <SunnyDP> Is there a way to slipstream the latest updates in my Ubuntu 8.10 ISO's ?
[07:52] <CaneToad> kingsley_ you must be clicking the "burn the image directly" button in k3b when you drag instead of "add the file to the project", right?
[07:52] <CaneToad> that approach is ok too
[07:52] <Droopsta915> well it's been fun, hope I helped someone today. Have a good night or day whatever ;)
[07:52] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, : sorry again but is it a good idea to search at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ for vpython issues?
[07:52] <SunnyDP> later Droop
[07:52] <kingsley_> CaneToad: For what it's worth, I just burned a CD as you advised.
[07:52] <bolting> Droopsta915: they are just 6 backpors listed
[07:53] <nnull> anyone tell me how many hours until the nba 2009 allstar game starts?
[07:53] <bolting> in the update thing
[07:53] <bolting> some for gimp and some for braseo
[07:54] <Droopsta915> bolting: I must run, someone will help you in here, good people hang out in this chat ;) hope you fix your prob.
[07:54] <kingsley_> CaneToad: My recollection is that that I've successfully burned data CDs several ways.
[07:54] <CaneToad> kingsley_ I hope it works for you!!
[07:54] <kindofabuzz> burning through nautilus always says it fails even though it doesn't on my system
[07:55] <kingsley_> CaneToad: I'm happy to report that doing it your way worked.
[07:55] <AETE_KRAOUD> sorry guys but when i tried to search the irc lists i get my xchat crashed in ubuntu does anybody solved that crash problem?
[07:55] <kingsley_> CaneToad: Thank you.
[07:55] <Vexer> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:55] <CaneToad> kinglsey_ no probs :)
[07:55] <yuka> what's the best way to get chrome? with wine or the chromuim package?
[07:56] <SunnyDP> yuka? absoliutely need chrome ?
[07:56] <doc`> having problem with my usb speakers, they are listed under lsusb, but not found under asoundconf list
[07:57] <yuka> SunnyDP: after 3 hours of fast typing on FF my CPU is %100
[07:57] <anima_> ok, so now I have three installations, none of which work.
[07:57] <anima_> i'm going to stop digging  the hole until someone helps me.
[07:57] <SunnyDP> yuka: weird, look into other browsers that work natively in ubuntu
[07:57] <dayo2> AETE_KRAOUD: try irssi over screen
[07:58] <yuka> SunnyDP: any suggestions?
[07:58] <SunnyDP> anima_ ? isnstalls of what ?
[07:58] <anima_> googleearth
[07:58] <SunnyDP> yuka: i use FF
[07:58] <SunnyDP> works great
[07:58] <anima_> 4.2, 4.3, and 5.0
[07:58] <SunnyDP> are you on 8.10 ?
[07:58] <redline5653> has anyone here used the net boot installers before?
[07:58] <dayo2> dayo2: AETE_KRAOUD: that's if u got access to a server. if not, then just irssi
[07:58] <kindofabuzz> anima_, type googleearth at cl what do you get?
[07:58] <yuka> SunnyDP: start typing into a textbox for a few minutes,
[07:58] <yuka> SunnyDP: and look at youre CPU
[07:58] <AETE_KRAOUD> dayo2, : hhmmm you mean i have to disconnedt first e?
[07:59] <SunnyDP> go in add/remove programs
[07:59] <SunnyDP> install 2 or 3
[07:59] <SunnyDP> and choose the one that suits your needs
[07:59] <anima_> We apologize for the inconvenience, but Google Earth has crashed.
[07:59] <SunnyDP> my opinion
[07:59] <redline5653> has anyone here used the net boot installers before?
[07:59] <anima_>  This is a bug in the program, and should never happen under normal
[07:59] <anima_>  circumstances. A bug report and debugging data are now being written
[07:59] <anima_>  to this text file:
[07:59] <FloodBot1> anima_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <kindofabuzz> 5 works fine, if you get it crashing at startup there is a workaround, there is a file you have to rename
[07:59] <anima_> Sunny, they aren't in add/remove.
[07:59] <anima_> Sorry FloodBot.  LOL
[07:59] <dayo2> AETE_KRAOUD: do u have irssi installed?
[07:59] <AETE_KRAOUD> dayo2, : no i am afraid
[07:59] <SunnyDP> anima: i was speaking to yuka
[08:00] <anima_> Sorry.
[08:00] <SunnyDP> no stress
[08:00] <AETE_KRAOUD> dayo2, : what's that ? doesn't xchat enough ?
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[08:00] <quibbler> who
[08:00] <FloodBot1> quibbler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <dayo2> AETE_KRAOUD: it's a command-line irc client. i prefer it to xchat
[08:01] <AETE_KRAOUD> dayo2, : i will try once more to connect to another server if it crashes i will check that out :-) thanks
[08:01] <dayo2> AETE_KRAOUD: u're welcome :-)
[08:02] <worldcitizen> Hi, I'm having a problem with firefox constantly locking up. It locks up when I switch tabs. Do you think firefox add-ons could be slowing down firefox at all?
[08:03] <pstickne> Wolfey:  what happens when you use firefox in "safe-mode"?
[08:06] <redline5653> has anyone here used the net boot installers before?
[08:06] <SunnyDP> Hey users! Is there a way to slipstream the latest updates in my Ubuntu 8.10 ISO's ?
[08:06] <SunnyDP> net boot ?
[08:06] <SunnyDP> to do what ?
[08:06] <SunnyDP> install on usb key ?
[08:07] <anima_> ok, it doesn't work at all.
[08:07] <redline5653> yea i been having probs trying to install i found a page about netboot istalling and so far it's working i just need to know if it will get the basic drivers and such for my lappy
[08:08] <redline5653> netboot loads from a cd and downloads the rest of what it needs apparently
[08:08] <SunnyDP> you should get yourself netboot, a ISO of ubuntu, and a 2gb usb key
[08:09] <SunnyDP> you will then be able to boot from your usb key , either using the live-cd option or install ubuntu on your pc
[08:09] <droid> just trying out irc-clients.. what should you use? xchat or xchat-gnome?
[08:09] <redline5653> my laptop dosent have an option to boot from usb....
[08:09] <rww> droid: xchat
[08:09] <droid> aight thanks
[08:10] <anima_> YAY!  Just got the tax refund!!!  wooHOO.
[08:10] <redline5653> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD has anyone got experience with this?
[08:10] <SunnyDP> redline how old is your laptop ?
[08:10] <anima_> OK, so what do I do about these errant entries in my menu?
[08:11] <redline5653> about 4-5 years theres the link to what im doing^^
[08:11] <SunnyDP> ahhh ok
[08:11] <SunnyDP> well i guess yoiu should install from CD
[08:11] <SunnyDP> no choice
[08:11] <SunnyDP> right ?
[08:11] <anima_> Sunny, are you talking to me?
[08:12] <redline5653> that page says though that i can just boot from the image and it should download it automatically
[08:12] <SunnyDP> anima: no
[08:12] <anima_> OK.
[08:12] <SunnyDP> well you know
[08:12] <SunnyDP> redline
[08:12] <SunnyDP> buring yourself a FULL iso of ubuntu cannot harm you
[08:12] <rww> !who
[08:12] <SunnyDP> and it will install much faster than a netinstall
[08:13] <SunnyDP> netinstalls are usually for administrators that waant to deploy on the whole network
[08:13] <SunnyDP> and dont want to carry CD's with them
[08:13] <redline5653> thats the thing i have burnt 4 diff versions and only get to the menu when you boot...
[08:13] <SunnyDP> got it ?
[08:13] <SunnyDP> redline
[08:13] <SunnyDP> PM me
[08:13] <SunnyDP> i will guide you
[08:14] <anima_> ok, back tomorrow to work on this some more.
[08:14] <SunnyDP> cool
[08:15] <suigeneris> hey
[08:16] <suigeneris> a friend upgraded to kde 4.2 and when he restarted X, he got back to 4.1. how come?
[08:17] <kaartz> i'm trying to configure wifi in ubuntu 8.10, but I couldn't
[08:17] <kaartz> please help me
[08:17] <somehow> guys sorry i but how exactly can i register my IRC nick ?  I just read  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup  but i don't understand anything
[08:18] <somehow> so if i make a typo will my email be public availaible?
[08:20] <ngurah> woi..
[08:20] <somehow> for those who use irc for long it should be trivial , please answer me so  if i make a typo will my email be public availaible when i try to register my nickname?
[08:20] <SmokeyD> hey people. Is there a place where I can find the changes between two versions of Ubuntu packages? I see right now that the php5 packages have been updated in Hardy. I want to see what has changed. Where can I find this?
[08:21] <SmokeyD> just a change log
[08:21] <SmokeyD> not the actual code that has been changes, just the comments made by the package maintainers
[08:21] <diginux> somehow: just dont type the command in a chat window, type in the main window that you saw when you logged on
[08:21] <suigeneris> SmokeyD, read CHANGELOG
[08:21] <diginux> SmokeyD: pakcages.ubuntu.org hsould have it
[08:22] <AETE_KRAOUD> diginux, : THANKS MEN :-)
[08:22] <kingsley_> Is my assumption correct that using 8.04 as a live CD requires the user to configure the network interface with the IP addresses of DNS servers?
[08:22] <diginux> SmokeyD: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:22] <diginux> kingsley_: not if you have dhcp installed
[08:22] <diginux> kingsley_: and also, you don't *need* the internet to use the livecd
[08:23] <SmokeyD> diginux:,suigeneris: ok. Willdo. thanks.
[08:23] <kingsley_> diginux: Hmmm... the private network does have dhcp. I wonder why 8.04 didn't use it...
[08:23] <SmokeyD> I was just wondering if there was a place where the most recent changelogs would be summarized in chronilogical order or something
[08:24] <suigeneris> a friend upgraded to kde 4.2 and when he restarted X, he got back to 4.1. how come?
[08:24] <diginux> SmokeyD: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.2.4-2ubuntu5.5/changelog
[08:24] <diginux> SmokeyD: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/php5-cli
[08:25] <diginux> SmokeyD: "ubuntu changelog" is on the side
[08:26] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone know a program that will join 2 avi files together?
[08:26] <ukff> hello friends is there any chance to switch on the ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 with ubuntu 8.10 ?
[08:27] <Slart> U-b-u-n-t-u: avidemux might work for you
[08:27] <diginux> U-b-u-n-t-u: cinelerra or avidemux
[08:27] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks!
[08:27] <diginux> U-b-u-n-t-u: try avidemux first
[08:27] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok
[08:27] <Slart> U-b-u-n-t-u: also mencoder of ffmpeg might work.. those are command line though
[08:27] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:27] <diginux> U-b-u-n-t-u: cinelerra is a full blown video editor with a learnign curve
[08:27] <O__o> how to config talk in ubuntu?
[08:28] <O__o> error on read from talk daemon
[08:28] <kaartz> i'm trying to configure wifi in ubuntu 8.10, but I couldn't, anyone please help me
[08:28] <marek_> ??
[08:29] <error404notfound> my Applications>Add/Remove has gone corrupt, shows no applications and only one category called "Installed application", how can I reinstall it?
[08:29] <rww> error404notfound: did you install Adobe AIR recently?
[08:30] <error404notfound> rww: correct...
[08:30] <error404notfound> I also wanna remove that and spaz
[08:30] <rww> error404notfound: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/311455
[08:30] <ukff> the problem with ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 is having me, please help to set it up with ubuntu 8.10
[08:31] <axscode> http://pastebin.com/m52be0640 <--can someone help me out
[08:36] <\Kira> My server, which is run though a dynamic DNS, sometimes just sits at the command prompt, like when im trying to ssh in. It just does nothing, and eventually breaks the connection, this only happens sometimes, but Im worried about people viewing my website (once I get it online). Any idea how I could fix this?
[08:36] <ikonia> \Kira: then you should host it properly
[08:36] <ikonia> \Kira: rather than on a home connetion with dynamic dns
[08:36] <\Kira> ikonia: this is temporary, until I get some coin :P
[08:37] <\Kira> ikonia: its also a method of me experimenting
[08:37] <ikonia> \Kira: then live with it until you get some coin
[08:37] <\Kira> ikonia: but, im just curious if there is anything I could do about this and whats causing it?
[08:37] <ikonia> \Kira: it's probably arpa looks for ssh being slow / timing out due to dynai dns
[08:37] <redline5653> invite me to pm again cant see you on list
[08:37] <ikonia> redline5653: who ?
[08:38] <SunnyDP> hehe :D
[08:38] <\Kira> ikonia: okay, thanks then
[08:39] <\Kira> man, this channel is quiet tonight...
[08:39] <Mr_Goodkat> is it normal that ubuntu is so lagging on a 1.6ghz atom?
[08:40] <Mr_Goodkat> *ubuntu netbook remix
[08:40] <judget_> any idea why my automount would stop working?
[08:40] <ikonia> Mr_Goodkat: depends what you define as lagging and what the issue is
[08:40] <ikonia> judget_: hal/dbus not running ?
[08:40] <Mr_Goodkat> i just installed it fresh, it takes our to open browser, terminal etc
[08:40] <Mr_Goodkat> even switching trough the menu lags
[08:41] <ikonia> Mr_Goodkat: is it visual or processing lag ?
[08:41] <judget_> how do i check if hal/dbus is running please
[08:41] <ikonia> judget_: do you want to explain the problem first ?
[08:41] <judget_> I plug in a usb device that worked last night and tonight it does not automount
[08:41] <Mr_Goodkat> i guess processing, the mouse pointer shows the busy icon
[08:42] <ikonia> Mr_Goodkat: no that certainly doesn't sound normal
[08:42] <ikonia> judget_: 1.) what type of device is it, a usb pen drive, or disk ? 2.) was it properly unmounted before it was taken out 3.) what file system is on the usb device?
[08:43] <scheuri> hi all
[08:43] <judget_> usb device is ntfs or fat 32 same for both
[08:43] <judget_> i have multiple usb devices and noe mount including the ipod
[08:44] <ikonia> judget_: sounds like your usb port has hung if none are working, was the devices unmounted before you pulled them out
[08:44] <judget_> I always unmount before removing
[08:44] <bindaas> judget: df -h , and then mount it manually
[08:44] <ikonia> judget_: tail the syslog - plug in your usb devie and see if it even detected
[08:45] <Mr_Goodkat> the cpu history shows both kernels running at >90% and load average is 3.66
[08:45] <ikonia> bindaas: why df -h ?
[08:45] <ikonia> bindaas: what has that got to do with mounting anything ?
[08:45] <kraut> moin
[08:45] <benovic> moin
[08:45] <ikonia> Mr_Goodkat: your machine is certainly very busy then
[08:47] <Mr_Goodkat> when i sort it for cpu then the netbook-launcher uses 25% and 24mb ram and thats the most in the list
[08:47] <Mr_Goodkat> that shouldnt make the system lagg
[08:48] <Mr_Goodkat> now the system-monitor takes 25+, how can this be
[08:48] <ikonia> Mr_Goodkat: %25 pu use on one application is a big ask
[08:48] <baz> i have an adobe illustrator file with a logo in it in a certain font. How can I get the name of that font? Is it possible to open an illustrator file in ubuntu?
[08:48] <judget_> df -h --->
[08:48] <judget_> judget@tjlaptop:~$ df -h
[08:48] <judget_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[08:48] <judget_> /dev/sda1             109G   70G   33G  69% /
[08:48] <judget_> varrun                498M  228K  498M   1% /var/run
[08:48] <judget_> varlock               498M     0  498M   0% /var/lock
[08:48] <FloodBot1> judget_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:48] <judget_> udev                  498M   64K  498M   1% /dev
[08:48] <ikonia> baz: what use is that ?
[08:48] <ikonia> bindaas: why did you tell judget_ to use df -h before mounting it ?
[08:49] <baz> ikonia, what use is it to get the name of the font?
[08:49] <Mr_Goodkat> i know, how come the system-monitor uses so much? is it possible that it is a graphical issue so that the active window makes everything lag?
[08:49] <baz> ikonia, so i could know how to re-build the logo
[08:49] <Boohbah_> Mr_Goodkat: because it is constantly redrawing the graphs
[08:50] <Mr_Goodkat> kk, i try to change the graphic driver
[08:51] <judget_> im lost
[08:52] <baz> inkscape lets you open illustrator (.ai) files
[08:52] <MotuU> hi all
[08:52] <LLStarks> evening.
[08:52] <bindaas> ikonia: to see if his his usb is mounted ,it will be listed there
[08:52] <LLStarks> i just rolled a 20-sided kernel
[08:52] <LLStarks> +5 KMS
[08:53] <SPF> when I use apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, the wget executed in this script is not using the apt proxy settings so the download will fail
[08:53] <judget_> so does anyone have an idea why my automount stopped working?
[08:53] <balrog__> why do you have to run mobloquer after all other firewalls?
[08:53] <MotuU> please, is anyone experiencing Firefox Crashes when it comes to Websites with flash-content? I'm using hardy
[08:53] <balrog__> MotuU: yes, but my hardy install is borked anyway
[08:53] <bindaas> judget_: cat /var/log/messages | tail -n 10 // see what were the final messages
[08:53] <MotuU> hehe
[08:53] <MotuU> well
[08:54] <MotuU> i found this
[08:54] <bindaas> and then if mount does not work ,mount it manually
[08:54] <MotuU> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-firefox-crashes-on-flash-contents-when-using-libflashsupport-in-hardy.html
[08:54] <MotuU> but the comments don't let you expect that this will solve the problem
[08:54] <Mr_Goodkat> now i cant type in terminal, but it does work in other applications
[08:54] <ikonia> judget_: did you do the debugging I suggested
[08:55] <baz> is there a standard FOSS vector graphics format that works well in adobe products and others on linux?
[08:55] <bindaas> ikonia: well if you have usb mounted you will also see this in df -h   /* /dev/sdb1             1.9G  430M  1.5G  23% /media/KINGSTON  */
[08:56] <B|ackPanther> I have completely removed vista from my computer but now the problem am having is my computer takes around 20 minutes to go past the blue boot up screen.Is there a way i can make roll back to defaults and still not affect my ubuntu installation.
[08:56] <ikonia> bindaas: he's already said it's not mounted, he wants to know why it's not working
[08:57] <judget_> judge paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/117575/
[08:57] <titan_ark> hey :) need some help with mounting partitions.
[08:57] <judget_> that was the cat | tail
[08:58] <ikonia> judget_: please unplug your usb devices, do tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug your usb device in, see if the syslog pickups the insetion
[08:58] <judget_> ok
[08:59] <vegombrei> im trying to make an audio cd using brasero ... how do i toggle track order ?
[09:00] <chuxxsss> how do I reset screen resolution in Gnome when I can't see anything but black
[09:00] <judget_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117576/
[09:00] <judget_> looks like it picked up the usb dev
[09:01] <bindaas> judget_:is it listed in df -h?
[09:01] <kidspc> i'm a complete noob here and just installed ubuntu. i can only run it in graphics safe mode what do i do
[09:02] <ikonia> judget_: that looks very positive, udev has a trigger event that is picked up by hal, thats a good start
[09:02] <judget_> yea but it does not shoe in df -h
[09:02] <Mr_Goodkat> hmm ctrl+alt+backspace does nothing
[09:02] <ikonia> judget_:the question is why dbus doesn't trigger gnome to automount it
[09:02] <vegombrei> kidspc: what graphics card do you have ? are you sure you installed the right drivers ?
[09:02] <judget_> yes that is a good question
[09:03] <bindaas> try this --> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/mydisk  -o uid=1000,gid=100,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
[09:03] <judget_> last night i was working on building a new GTK
[09:03] <kidspc> i have intell
[09:03] <judget_> i think that may have caused a problem
[09:04] <ikonia> judget_: did you build and install a new gtk version ?
[09:04] <kidspc> i don't have a driver to instal
[09:04] <ikonia> bindaas: it's the automounter that's the problem,
[09:04] <slowaris> what apps can play midi file?
[09:04] <ikonia> bindaas: he's just proved udev creates a device node
[09:04] <judget_> not completely someone warned me not to but i had already tried to build the glib section
[09:05] <dimitrius> after update my sound card not working anyone have same problem?
[09:05] <ikonia> judget_: so you have built your own glib version and updated it on your system ?
[09:05] <chuxxsss> vegombrei, yes i am sure nidia 177.80 something has change the resolution so i when into pref's and when up to high i think on resolution.
[09:05] <judget_> I believe I may have but im not sure how far i got before i stopped
[09:06] <ikonia> judget_: glib/gtk/pango etc are core features on gnome, it's doubtful but possible it could have caused an issue with the desktop interface to dbus
[09:06] <bindaas> ikonia: well if automounter is not working ,should not he try mounting manually ?
[09:06] <judget_> I was origonally trying to compile a newer totem and the configure whined about the version of gtk that i had
[09:06] <titan_ark> hey :) having trouble with accessing my existing partitions any one can help me out with this?
[09:06] <judget_> right
[09:07] <judget_> should i try to reinstall those from the synaptic manager
[09:07] <baz> what in the world is nautlius doing with its file search when $ locate works in literally 700ms
[09:07] <wierdo> alo
[09:07] <dimitrius> anyone playing wow with wine?
[09:07] <ikonia> bindaas: I'm sure he can mount it, manually he's asking why the automounter interface to gnome is failing
[09:07] <wierdo> all
[09:07] <ikonia> judget_: that probably wont work depending on how you installed thing
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[09:08] <chuxxsss> brb
[09:08] <slowaris> anyone what program can i use to play midi file?
[09:08] <judget_> i did the usual configure make sudo make install
[09:08] <ikonia> judget_: not good then,
[09:08] <judget_> hmmm
[09:08] <ikonia> judget_: depends on your configure options
[09:09] <MotuU> well, is no one in here experiencing Firefox to crash when playing youtube or myspace (because of the flash players)?
[09:09] <judget_> yea i learn while i burn
[09:09] <bindaas> ikonia: weird but i had this problem some months back when automounter stopped working but it was back to normal  when i mounted manually
[09:09] <ikonia> MotuU: what version of ubuntu ? people have complained
[09:09] <bindaas> normal forever*
[09:09] <syockit> slowaris: there are some audio players that come with midi plugins
[09:10] <syockit> slowaris: ...including audacious
[09:10] <ikonia> bindaas: do what you feel appropriate then
[09:10] <MotuU> ikonia: DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.04.2"
[09:10] <ikonia> MotuU: how did you install flash ?
[09:10] <MotuU> and the firefox version that ships with it
[09:10] <ikonia> MotuU: how did you install flash ?
[09:10] <MotuU> i try to remeber :-)
[09:11] <MotuU> flash isn't installed after isntalling ubuntu, right?
[09:11] <syockit> slowaris: see this page. I hope it's not confusing http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/how-to-ubuntu-midi-playback-with-audacious/
[09:11] <MotuU> then i'm sure i followed the dialog in Firefox to isntall the plug-in
[09:12] <MotuU> ikonia: Anf Firefox is 3.0.5
[09:12] <MotuU> and
[09:12] <ikonia> MotuU: how did you install flash ?
[09:13] <dimitrius> does ur fps suck in wow on wine?
[09:13] <MotuU> ikonia: i'm sure i followed the dialog in Firefox to isntall the plug-in
[09:13] <kalvin_> hi everyone, im trying to start apache but it says another web server daemon is open, how can i check what it is thats open?
[09:14] <ikonia> MotuU: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" from the repos
[09:14] <bindaas> kalvin_ : netstat -nlp | grep 80
[09:14] <MotuU> ikonia: is this howto suitable to do this? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-firefox-crashes-on-flash-contents-when-using-libflashsupport-in-hardy.html
[09:15] <MotuU> ikonia: and do i have to uninstall something firstly?
[09:16] <kidspc> i have just installed ubuntu and can only run it in graphics safe mode, i have  82845G intel graphics
[09:16] <Mr_Goodkat> how is this graphic driver configure tool called? the one where you could change the driver from vesa to intel etc, i think since intrepid it disappeared
[09:16] <kidspc> do i need a driver?
[09:16] <eitreach> I have trouble using USB in Virtualbox in Intrepid. I have followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB but I am not sure I have done everything correctly. Could someone take me through ie, step by step?
[09:16] <c0p3rn1c> !printer
[09:17] <vegombrei> what is a python object ??
[09:18] <bindaas> instance of class ?
[09:18] <c0p3rn1c> I have a problem with my network printer, it used to show up directly when I try to add a printer on another linux box, but not anymore
[09:19] <c0p3rn1c> shared printer on a ubuntu box*
[09:19] <mak_> how well i can code for python to create an web page and a code to create download icon in the web page ?
[09:19] <kalvin_> its telling me apache2 is listening but everytime i try to kill it, it comes back
[09:19] <arquebus> vegombrei: do you know what object oriented programming is?
[09:20] <Mr_Goodkat> hmm so my problem is that the intel gma500 is not supported by ubuntu and vesa is really slow, smb any suggestions
[09:20] <syockit> kalvin_: try to stop apache from init.d first and kill the remaining daemon
[09:20] <kalvin_> how do i do that?
[09:20] <syockit> kalvin_: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop
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[09:20] <syockit> kalvin_: and then use ps aux | grep apache to see if any apaches remaining
[09:21] <reasonpun>  use ps aux | grep httpd to see if any apaches remaining,instead
[09:21] <vegombrei> arquebus: not really ..
[09:21] <kalvin_> ok it worked thanks...what is this invoke-rc.d
[09:21] <bindaas> mak_:well i am a java dev and i dont have any experience with python but oop concepts are same
[09:22] <chris8> hey room... have a PC and a 2 laptops... wha's best Ubuntu feature for file sharing?
[09:22] <syockit> kalvin_: it calls the script that is in /etc/init.d/
[09:22] <chris8> don't nec'raly need access to programs etc, just files...
[09:22] <judget_> so it looks like my automount is not working does anyone have any suggestions
[09:22] <kidspc> arquebus: object oriented programming is a program philosophy based on the functions of objects rather than on a system of commands and decisions
[09:23] <judget_> If i plug in the drive to usb it is there showing in gparted
[09:23] <kalvin_> syockit: thanks a lot
[09:23] <bindaas> judget_: did u try mounting manually?
[09:23] <Mr_Goodkat> is there anyway to use windows driver for the intel card on ubuntu?
[09:23] <judget_> i forgot the mount command
[09:23] <judget_> for ntfs
[09:23] <arquebus> vegombrei: kidspc just gave the definition
[09:24] <Crescent_4rZ> ;jlsd
[09:24] <syockit> kalvin_: normally you see commands that tell you to sudo /etc/init.d/<something> start|stop|restart, but you can use sudo invoke-rc.d instead
[09:24] <Crescent_4rZ> hai.. ol
[09:24] <ActionParsnip2> yo yo yo
[09:24] <syockit> Mr_Goodkat: wait, GM500? let me check
[09:24] <Mr_Goodkat> kk, thx
[09:24] <chris8> anyone? please help... best file-sharing option for Ubuntu v.8.1
[09:24] <bindaas> judget_: you usb is not FAT 16 or 32?
[09:25] <bmunat> Hi. I've started having problems with not being able to cp, mv or rm certain files and lots of dirs say their readonly when I try to create a file but doing an ls shows rwx for root (and I'm root)... anyone have any ideas? The machine hasn't been rebooted for a week or two and has been fine until tonight.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> chris8: there is no BEST
[09:25] <judget_> this drive is ntfs
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> chris8: you can use samba or cifs
[09:25] <chris8> i didn't even see those as options in the help...
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> chris8: those are the 2 I am aware of
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> !samba | chris8
[09:26] <chris8> :S  as windows network, Nautilus, and creating Sharing Folders...
[09:26] <syockit> Mr_Goodkat: and no, you can't use windows drivers on linux
[09:26] <bindaas> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/device_like_sdb1  /media/mydisk
[09:26] <ActionParsnip2> chris8: thats samba
[09:26] <ActionParsnip2> chris8: if you havent already: sudo apt-get install samba
[09:26] <judget_> brb I gonna try a reboot just for giggles
[09:26] <chris8> the sharing folders option? i get <not allowed on backend>
[09:27] <Mr_Goodkat> would be nice if there would be smth like ndiswrapper for graphic driver
[09:27] <chris8> TY ActionParsnip--ur ma favorite vegetable in the garden1!!
[09:27] <MotuU> ikonia: can i use the howto that i linked you to solve the problem?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip2> chris8: ive not used it that way. I always edit smb.conf which is childishly simple, remember to run: sudo smbpasswd <your username> and set the same password for your samba as your login (makes life easier)
[09:28] <ActionParsnip2> oh well
[09:28]  * ActionParsnip2 was gonna offer his smb.conf
[09:28] <ikonia> MotuU: just install the flashplugin-nonfree package - that's all you need
[09:28] <MotuU> ikonia: will do, brb
[09:29] <titan_ark> hey i hav just installed xubuntu dual boot with an existing xp on my HDD with 4 partitions. i am unable to access the other 3 partitions thro xubuntu now.
[09:29] <MotuU> ikonia: apt- says: flashplugin-nonfree is already the latest one (my translation, i have german language pack)
[09:29] <judget> you need ntfs tools
[09:30] <titan_ark> i tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions but it it doesnt seem to be working
[09:30] <ikonia> MotuU: that's good,
[09:30] <mak_> any idea anyone,,,,,to create an download icon in the web page,,,and giving the download link  to another web site,,, is it well done with java or python or shell scripting ??????
[09:31] <vegombrei> how does one toggle track order while using brasero to make an audio cd .. i mean all i do is drag and drop and it shows up but i cant change the track order then
[09:31] <ikonia> MotuU: when did you first install that package
[09:31] <bastid_raZor> vegombrei; add them in the order you want?.
[09:31] <MotuU> i didn't. i installed ubuntu server version, apt-getr ubuntu-desktop. that's it
[09:31] <baz> is FlashDevelop the leading free Flash/Flex ide?
[09:31] <MotuU> ikonia: i didn't. i installed ubuntu server version, apt-getr ubuntu-desktop. that's it
[09:32] <ikonia> MotuU: why did you install the server version ?
[09:32] <vegombrei> bastid_raZor: bastid !
[09:32] <MotuU> ikonia: to upload a smaller iso to my vmware server which is connected on the internet
[09:33] <ikonia> MotuU: why not use the desktop version ?
[09:33] <ikonia> MotuU: your using it for more than that as your trying to view youtuve and myspace on it
[09:33] <nargzul> Hi! I've a little simple question about crontab: If the computer is not on at the hour specified, when the computer restart, the task is executed or not?
[09:33] <ikonia> nargzul: it's ignored
[09:33] <MotuU> ikonia: no, just to have a remote access surf station
[09:34] <MotuU> ikonia: but the flash problem does not come from the server package, does it?
[09:34] <ikonia> MotuU: so why did you install the server version
[09:34] <nargzul> ikonia: okay thanks, and there is a way to do it? It's for a backup script for my laptop, and he isn't really ON at same hour
[09:34] <ikonia> MotuU: no - but the desktop version is a.) setup for home hardware b.) intergrated desktop out of the box
[09:34] <MotuU> ikonia: again, to just not putting a so big .iso through my internet connection!
[09:34] <|Sigma|> MotuU: both desktop and server version ISOs are the same size....
[09:35] <MotuU> ikonia: and the howto says, after apt-get install ubuntu-desktop it's excactly the same
[09:35] <|Sigma|> give or take ~10MB
[09:35] <MotuU> |Sigma|: oh, good to know that lol
[09:35] <|Sigma|> :p
[09:35] <ikonia> MotuU: I disagree on that,
[09:35] <MotuU> ikonia: well ok.
[09:35] <marco__> ciao a tutti
[09:36] <marco__> scusate è la prima volta che uso questo programma, come posso scaricare?
[09:36] <Guest33624> Hi all I need some help. I want to execute a GUI script just before I logout from GDM. /etc/gdm/PostSession run the script as root and i want it to be run by the current user? Please help me solve this!
[09:36] <ActionParsnip2> |Sigma|: does the server install have X based debs on the iso?
[09:36] <Guest33624> Otherwise I have to go back for KDE
[09:36] <MotuU> ikonia: so whats next? installing ubunto dekstop and i won't have the firefox crashes? i guess not
[09:36] <LiquidAir> Does Ubuntu have a similar battery consumption rate as vista?
[09:36] <LiquidAir> (or better)
[09:36] <ikonia> MotuU: I don't know without more research
[09:36] <ActionParsnip2> LiquidAir: I'd say identical as long as you get ACPI running successfully
[09:37] <MotuU> ikonia: ok maybre it's a good ide to open a threat in forums so that more people will read it?
[09:37] <MotuU> ikonia: btw you dont have those problems?
[09:37] <marco__> How can I download? sorry
[09:37] <ikonia> MotuU: not without more research, firefox/flash can crash for many reasons
[09:37] <LiquidAir> ActionParsnip2, k, I assume it would be a lot less than osx though (on macbook's) I don't know how they get their battery life so high
[09:37] <MotuU> ikonia: ok. thanks for now
[09:37] <Crescent_4rZ> hi..
[09:38] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: have you trid renaming ~/.mozilla ?
[09:38] <ikonia> MotuU: ActionParsnip2s is very valid
[09:38] <marco__> Hello, I'm italian. How I can download files?
[09:38] <nightrid3r> !it
[09:38] <ActionParsnip2> LiquidAir: depends on how the mac was configured, there is now umbrella answer
[09:38] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: whats that?
[09:38] <nargzul> ikonia: okay thanks, and there is a way to do it? It's for a backup script for my laptop, and he isn't really ON at same hour
[09:38] <marco__> grz mille!
[09:38] <MotuU> ikonia: what do you mean with vaild in this case?
[09:38] <Guest33624> Is there anyone that has heard of gnome here?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: its what hold your firefox settings, if you rename it and rerun firefox yuo will get stock settings and can diagnose that way
[09:39] <error404notfound> after installing adobe air, my add/remove has gone corrupt. As suggested on a launchpad bug, I tried to remove and install it, but it also tries to uninstall ubuntu-desktop. How do I fix it?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip2> Guest33624: of course
[09:39] <titan_ark> pls anyone can help me with accesing fat32 partitions thro ubuntu?
[09:39] <ikonia> MotuU: a good suggestion
[09:39] <ikonia> nargzul: no
[09:39] <MotuU> ikonia: k
[09:39] <Guest33624> Yep can you help me please with my logout issue?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old
[09:39] <ikonia> nargzul: if your machine is off - crontab does not run
[09:39] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: i'll try
[09:39] <mobici> whois mobici
[09:39] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: this will make firefox not see your bokmarks / passwords etc but its just to test
[09:39] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: the folder is renamed and not deleted
[09:39] <Guest33624> ActionParsnip2: I want to execute a logout GUI script before I logout NOT as root
[09:40] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: is it in /usr/lib?
[09:40] <Guest33624> ActionParsnip2: Thanks in advance!
[09:40] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: no I gave you the command
[09:40] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: k, done
[09:40] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: now restarting firefox?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: indeed
[09:41] <ActionParsnip2> Guest33624: make a script that sits on desktop that you can launch instead of clicking logoff or whatever
[09:41] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: since i am online here with chatzilla i guess i'll be kicked
[09:41] <titan_ark> :(
[09:41] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: i'll reconnct afterwards
[09:41] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: yes you will
[09:41] <Jesurfe> hello, please, I need create my channel, can you give a site provide simple interface to create and manage my chanel pls ?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: np
[09:41] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: brb
[09:42] <ActionParsnip2> chatzilla is a great way to make firefox bigger than it already is
[09:42] <Rioting_pacifist> i cant install scipy on 8.04, is there a nice cli program to plot graphs (from data not from formulas)
[09:43] <Guest33624> ActionParsnip2 This is a domain. If I manage to get this done this is my final step in the process of joining Ubuntu to AD Domain of 2003 with passwordless cifs mount and roaming profile login which is completely transparent  with window$. Can you suggest a channel?
[09:43] <Rioting_pacifist> i really need to do my work so i cant spend hours reading tutorials so sorry if this is easy to solve w/ google
[09:43] <ActionParsnip2> Rioting_pacifist: xplot
[09:43] <ActionParsnip2> !info xplot
[09:43] <Guest33624> Actionparnisp2 I cannot ask the users to press this before they logout...
[09:43] <ActionParsnip2> !info xgraph
[09:43] <MotuU> back
[09:43] <Guest33624> maybe if I fool the logout procedure...
[09:43] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: whats next?
[09:44] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: wait and see how firefox works with flash?
[09:44] <vegombrei> thats really odd ... once you add files for an audio project there is no way to change the track order ..
[09:44] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: use the browser to see how it runs, give it a good test with varied content
[09:44] <judget> well i rebooted for giggles but my automount is still NG
[09:44] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: will do
[09:45] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: firefox does not want me to install flash so it remebers where to find the flash plugin?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: should find it ok, if it all works your original profile is faulty someplace
[09:45] <Administrator> hi
[09:45] <dayo> where is the init script for logrotate on 8.04?
[09:45] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: k, thanks for now. will test now
[09:45] <ActionParsnip2> MotuU: if its still bad, dlete the current ~/.mozilla folder and rename the original back in
[09:46] <MotuU> ActionParsnip2: will do
[09:46] <ActionParsnip2> Guest33624: check in ~/.bash_logout
[09:47] <ActionParsnip2> Guest33624: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147007
[09:47] <Rioting_pacifist> god dammit im an idiot id messed up my sources so i couldnt install either of those, thx for the help ActionParsnip ill install xplot give it a spin :D, :( for nobody slapping me with the obviouse cause yesterday
[09:48] <Guest33624> ActionParsnip2: I will check this out, but afaik .bash_logout is not affecting GUI. Thanks!
[09:48] <mca1> jome
[09:48] <syockit> Rioting_pacifist: I thought parsnip already gave a list?
[09:48] <identifikaciya> hello there
[09:49] <ActionParsnip2> Rioting_pacifist: apt-cache search plot | less; apt-cache search graph | less
[09:49] <Rioting_pacifist> yeah i came by yesterday asking why python-scipy couldnt install, id messed up my sources.list (well adept had) but its all good now and i have scipy and xplot
[09:49] <mak_> jklk
[09:50] <ActionParsnip2> Rioting_pacifist: nice one
[09:50] <ActionParsnip2> Rioting_pacifist: i solve tonnes in here with apt-cache
[09:50] <chinchin> hi
[09:50] <ActionParsnip2> !hi | chinchin
[09:50] <identifikaciya> Guyz can you plese help? How can i exclude some file type from find search? If i got: find -type f -name "*.abc" i will find all "*.abc" files. How to find all not "*.abc" files?
[09:51] <chinchin> did anyone has the same problem wit 8.10 -while i downloaded some fils web surfing is impossible..
[09:52] <ActionParsnip2> identifikaciya: pipe your find results into a grep -v
[09:52] <ActionParsnip2> identifikaciya: makes grep work inversel
[09:52] <ActionParsnip2> y
[09:53] <adred> Hi, anyone out there who could me setup internal networking in virtualbox?. I got to Ubuntu guests on Ubuntu host. I couldn't figure out how to connect the guests. Help pls....
[09:53] <ActionParsnip2> identifikaciya: find . -type f | grep -v '*.abc'
[09:53] <ActionParsnip2> identifikaciya: create a folder with 20 or so files and run a quick test
[09:54] <ActionParsnip2> http://www.justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-129385.html
[09:54] <B|ackPanther> I have used a live disk and after that my computer takes too long to boot up.Is there a way i can restore the boot up ?
[09:54] <identifikaciya> Thanks guyz, trying :)
[09:54] <erUSUL> identifikaciya: find -type f -not -name "*.abc"
[09:54] <cakey_> hi nerds
[09:54] <cakey_> party time
[09:54] <ActionParsnip2> erUSUL: nice
[09:54] <cakey_> o/
[09:54] <cakey_> \o
[09:54] <cakey_> http://www.1234567890day.com/
[09:54] <FloodBot1> cakey_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:55] <cakey_> time to party
[09:55] <ActionParsnip2> cakey_: your keyboard is broken
[09:55] <cakey_> no its not
[09:55] <cakey_> ._.
[09:55] <identifikaciya> erUSUL: thanks a lot man!
[09:55] <ActionParsnip2> cakey_: well its typing pointless rubbish so it must be
[09:56] <|HSO|SadiQ> is there a tutorial about iptables QoS out there??
[09:56] <erUSUL> identifikaciya: no problem
[09:56] <ActionParsnip2> !iptables
[09:56] <cakey_> 1234567890day.com <--this?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip2> !ot | cakey_
[09:56] <adred> any help pls...
[09:56] <erUSUL> |HSO|SadiQ: the linux advanced router project site is a good start iirc
[09:56] <ActionParsnip2> !ask | adred
[09:56] <adred> Hi, anyone out there who could me setup internal networking in virtualbox?. I got to Ubuntu guests on Ubuntu host. I couldn't figure out how to connect the guests. Help pls....
[09:57] <adred> already posted but no one anwered.
[09:57] <|HSO|SadiQ> #ubuntu-network
[09:57] <ActionParsnip2> adred: i can help
[09:57] <ActionParsnip2> adred: set your default gateway to your routers internal ip
[09:58] <SunnyDP> Pasrsnip :D
[09:58] <SunnyDP> nice to see you brother
[09:58] <ActionParsnip2> adred: and add: nameserver 10.0.2.3   to /etc/resolv.conf
[09:58] <ActionParsnip2> adred: thats the internal Vbox dns that needs setting (weird I know)
[09:58] <ActionParsnip2> SunnyDP: werd
[09:59] <SunnyDP> :D
[09:59] <ActionParsnip2> adred: once you set those you will get web connection in the vbox
[09:59] <adred> ActionParsnip2: sorry just got a nose bleed. Don't basic networking skills. Do I have to do that?:(
[09:59] <malthe> guys
[09:59] <ActionParsnip2> adred: make sure you install the guest additions too
[10:00] <malthe> what's that tool that'll let you look into a hung process (e.g. dtrace); any tutorial on it?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip2> adred: yes if you want web access
[10:00] <adred> ActionParsnip2: not really web access. just access bet two guest OSes
[10:01] <ActionParsnip2> adred: that i dont know, you could have them communicating via your router i guess
[10:01] <ActionParsnip2> adred: I'd ask in #vbox
[10:01] <ActionParsnip2> or #virtualbox or whatever it is
[10:01] <adred> ActionParsnip2: okay.. thanks for the help. gotta go to #vbox
[10:05] <unknown_> hello, can somebody tell me how can I disable "autostart" its little anonying that when I put my pendrive in, I've got open all partitions... I'd prefer to have it only on desktop :) My system is ubuntu 8.10
[10:05] <stevja90> norman
[10:07] <|HSO|SadiQ> I'm trying to open a text file and I get something like this:Could not open the file <pathtofile> using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding. how can I fix that???
[10:08] <ActionParsnip2> unknown_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-974087.html
[10:08] <shavin> My windows vista just crashed and i am trying ubuntu live CD to recover my office files from the disk. But I a unable to mount the hard disk volume. The error reported is something relating to unclean shutdown. How can i force mount the volume to recover my important data? please help
[10:09] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: is the file on a network share?
[10:09] <|HSO|SadiQ> no...it's an xchat log file
[10:09] <zaggynl> shavin: you can try a ntfsfix
[10:09] <joot> | HSO|Sadi Q, I t is probably not a text file..
[10:09] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: same mout command but use --force on the end
 it's a xchat log file
[10:10] <shavin> thanks guys lemme try that
[10:10] <joot> | HSO|Sadi Q, Ouch!  Youi can change the format
[10:11] <|HSO|SadiQ> joot, how??
[10:11] <shavin> guys how do i check the name of the volume. i mean whether it is sda1 or what? i tried to look into properties but did not find anything
[10:11] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: what is the output of: file <file you want to open>
[10:12] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: sudo fdisk =l
[10:12] <shavin> ok
[10:13] <broonsparrow> hi. I'm wondering if someone can help with a mailman insatll - it's asking me for "actual network and class range of your mail server. " and I'm not sure what this means! I use gmail.
[10:13] <shavin> is it "=" equal and a "|" pipeline in the command?
[10:13] <shavin> or an "l" elle?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: sudo fdisk minus ell
[10:13] <joot> | HSO|Sadi Q, In the text editor there is an option to change to another format
[10:14] <kindofabuzz> installed python 3 by source and used checkinstall, worked fine before with a reg make install but checkinstall has screwd things up. i have ov 70 broken packages now. of course, every one of them is python based.
[10:14] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, it's "data"
[10:14] <joot> | HSO|Sadi Q, Well! in Gedit there is..
[10:14] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: thats why then
[10:14] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: its not a text file
[10:14] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: try nano <file to open>
[10:15] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: nano doesnt care and will simply open it
[10:15] <|HSO|SadiQ> joot, it's not working with all the locales I select there...I add/removed them all :P
[10:15] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, so no way to open it with gedit?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: not that I know of as its not a text file
[10:16] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: try nano just to check the deal
[10:16] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2,  nano works...but I preffer gedit :)
[10:16] <joot> | HSO|Sadi Q, Sorry I know no more... my xchat files open here when I start xchat gnome :-((
[10:16] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: the file command doesnt look at file extensions or stuff like that, it looks at the data
[10:16] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: whats the filename you are opening?
[10:16] <|HSO|SadiQ> /home/sadiq/.xchat2/xchatlogs/QuakeNet-#hso|warroom.log
[10:17] <lumis> anyone know why Ubuntu is automatically setting my CPU freq. to 1Ghz? cpufreq-selector allows me to change it to what it should be, but it resets after reboot
[10:17] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: try renaming it something simpler like quakenet.log and opening, or quakenet.txt
[10:17] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: maybe gedit doesnt like the # in the name
[10:18] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, I renamed it to gedit.txt ..it still doesn't open
[10:19] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, I'll stick to nano then...ty :)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: try cat thatfile > ~/test.txt
[10:21] <broonsparrow> how would i find the values for "network and class range of your mail server. " I'm using gmail and it's for a mailman install
[10:22] <Jumpingmanjim> hey guyz?
[10:22] <Jumpingmanjim> little help please?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> broonsparrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mailman
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> 1ask | Jumpingmanjim
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> !ask | Jumpingmanjim
[10:22] <bisserke> I'm looking for a native English speaker to help me out ... Perhaps this is not the correct channel but I thought I'd give it a shot
[10:23] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, still no luck
[10:23] <ActionParsnip2> bisserke: this is the english ubuntu support channel
[10:23] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: so the test.txt is not readable?
[10:23] <Jumpingmanjim> Last week i tried to install kubuntu, but it failed when it got to installing the bootloader, so i had to boot up my xp cd and use fixmbr, how can i avoid this problem in the future?
[10:24] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, cat will preserver the "data" if I do a "file path to cat'ed file"
[10:24] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, no...gedit will not open it
[10:24] <ActionParsnip2> Jumpingmanjim: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded as well as check the cd was burned ok on the first boot screen
[10:24] <broonsparrow> thanks parsnip- i was reading an old guide to installing it.
[10:25] <Jumpingmanjim> i'll do that then
[10:25] <ActionParsnip2> Jumpingmanjim: you SHOULD have done it anyway
[10:25] <shavin> ActionParsnip2: I could not make it work. when i give "sudo fdisk" it gives the following output http://paste.ubuntu.com/117592/
[10:25] <ActionParsnip2> Jumpingmanjim: md5 checking stuff like CD images is very important, especially with OS disks
[10:25] <kindofabuzz> for future reference, DO NOT use checkinstall to install python 3 from source. totally screwed my system up lol, thanks god for clonezilla,. probably a fix but probably just as quick to restore my images
[10:26] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: you didnt run the command I said
[10:26] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: sudo fdisk -l
[10:26] <shavin> okay thanks
[10:27] <shavin> ActionParsnip2: please see this. cuold you tell me which one is the windows C drive here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/117593/
[10:27] <joot> | HSO|Sadi Q, I just tried saving this log and Gedit will not open mine so maybe you need nano..
[10:28] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, Openoffice opens the original file after giving me some warning about the character coding like gedit
[10:28] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: if you mount them all you will see the data, there is no way of knowing from that output but now you know the device nams
[10:28] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: then maybe you can convert with open office
[10:29] <|HSO|SadiQ> ActionParsnip2, the original file or a copyof it??
[10:30] <ActionParsnip2> |HSO|SadiQ: whatever, just change it, click save as and then select text file or whatever from the file type box
[10:31] <moniker127> Hey quick question: I'm running ubuntu 8.04 inside of a virtual machine on windows. I am unable to get an IP address on the VM. What settings do I need to change?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip2> moniker127: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648985
[10:32] <Crescent_4rZ> irc.0wn3d.me.uk
[10:32] <moniker127> Thanks.
[10:32] <Crescent_4rZ> irc.0wn3d.me.uk
[10:34] <joot> Crescent_4rZ, ??
[10:34] <acuster> hey all, what creates the default user list in an install (say for a server version)?
[10:34] <geirha> |HSO|SadiQ: do you have access to the machine where the xchat log was created?
[10:35] <chuxxsss> how do I reset screen resolution in Gnome when I can't see anything but black
[10:35] <|HSO|SadiQ> geirha, thei're on my machine...yes
[10:35] <asfjio> hello, i'm trying to install licurl for php with "sudo apt-get install php5-curl", but i got this error "php5-curl: Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.3-1ubuntu6) but 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.4 is to be installed". what could be the problem?
[10:35] <geirha> |HSO|SadiQ: They were created on the same system as you are trying to read them on?
[10:36] <|HSO|SadiQ> geirha, yes
[10:36] <shockwave> hey
[10:36] <ActionParsnip2> chuxxsss: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:36] <geirha> |HSO|SadiQ: Then it's odd that it's not using UTF-8
[10:37] <ActionParsnip2> acuster: the installer will create you a single user on install, you can then create users using adduser
[10:37] <shockwave> what is the command for edit file/
[10:37] <shockwave> ?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip2> !adduser | acuster
[10:37] <chuxxsss> I can see anything in Gnome just black
[10:37] <Sarge_TJ> Hi guys! I'm lacking a good media center on ubuntu, so I'm considering installing mythbuntu side by side to my ubuntu system. Is it done only by installing the mythbuntu-desktop, and after that I'm able to choose from the login screen wether I want to boot Ubuntu or Mythbuntu?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip2> shockwave: using what app?
[10:37] <|HSO|SadiQ> geirha, I added all the character coding that appear in gedit...none can open the file
[10:37] <shockwave> i need to edit this
[10:37] <kinja-sheep> What's the name of package "Ubuntu Helpdesk" that "magically" appear out of nowhere only to annoy you when you accidentally press F1 (help key)?
[10:37] <shockwave> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system.ini
[10:37] <shockwave> i need to edit it
[10:38] <ActionParsnip2> shockwave: gedit ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system.ini
[10:38] <shockwave> thanks
[10:38] <BlueEagle> shockwave: That depends on which editor you want to use. Popular choices include: nano, pico, joe, vim, emacs and a whole lot of others.
[10:38] <geirha> |HSO|SadiQ: If you do « strings thefile | less » does it show any readable text?
[10:38] <shavin> ActionParsnip2: Thank you very much, i got my files :-). Now is there a way to clear the unclean logfile or something whichever is stopping windows to boot up?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: depends where its stored, to get write access you will need to install ntfs-3g
[10:39] <chuxxsss> ActionParsnip2 the screen in Gnome is black I can't see anything
[10:39] <ActionParsnip2> chuxxsss: hit ctrl+alt+backspace, change session type to console and log on there
[10:40] <shavin> so i install ntfs-3g package and then run it on C drive probably?
[10:40] <Sarge_TJ> Will installing the mythbuntu-desktop package enable me to choose between the basic ubuntu (gnome) desktop and the mythbuntu desktop at the login screen?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip2> chuxxsss: or reboot and hit esc to bring up grub menu and boot to recovery mode, you can select fix x from the menu that appears
[10:40] <|HSO|SadiQ> geirha, ...yes...I can read it
[10:40] <ActionParsnip2> Sarge_TJ: I believe so, it may just install the apps you dont have from the mythbuntu meta package
[10:41] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: ntfs-3g is a best effort to give linux users write access to ntfs (as ntfs is proprietary from Microsoft)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip2> !ntfs3g | shavin
[10:42] <lolkikker> test
[10:42] <chuxxsss> Thank you ActionParsnip2
[10:42] <zone000> how can i install ubuntu iso from mandriva 2007 without cdrom or usb support so that it overwites the mandriva partitions?
[10:43] <Mood> zone000: mount?
[10:43] <geirha> |HSO|SadiQ: Then there's probably just a few odd characters here and there, that are not UTF-8 ... not sure on how to find and fix them though
[10:43] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: you will need to edit your mandriva boot loader (grub / lilo) to boot the iso (it can do this)
[10:43] <zone000> how?
[10:43] <zone000> i have lilo
[10:44] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html
[10:44] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: have you websearched this any or did you just run here straight away?
[10:44] <zone000> how can i do that but inorder to wipe mandriva away and replace it with ubuntu
[10:44] <|HSO|SadiQ> geirha, it's ok...I'll keep using nano...ty anyway :)
[10:44] <zone000> i searched and i found alot of stuff but the commands don't work under mandriva like tht loop command
[10:44] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: you will need to burn the disk unless you have 2 bootable disks
[10:45] <dundel> Where can i find the ubuntu 8.10 HAL hiccup fix???
[10:45] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: all linuxs have the loop devices
[10:45] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: its how you mount an iso
[10:45] <zone000> no i have no cd rom support
[10:45] <shavin> ActionParsnip: I am a bit confused. Is there a command i can run which will scan the hard disk and fix the logfile error. or do i have to manually find out the log file and fix it? I am sorry for my naive query
[10:45] <zone000> i just have that iso
[10:45] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: do you have a 1Gb usb drive laying around
[10:46] <zone000> yes but my bios doesn't support usb booting
[10:46] <Mood> zone000: you can't do a mount -o loop xxx.iso /mnt/disk?
[10:47] <zone000> but the thing is that after mounting the iso file i will over right it
[10:47] <shavin> ActionParsnip2: I am a bit confused. Is there a command i can run which will scan the hard disk and fix the logfile error. or do i have to manually find out the log file and fix it? I am sorry for my naive query
[10:47] <zone000> so the iso is on an ntfs
[10:47] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: what is the logfile error?
[10:47] <zone000> and want to install it in place of mandriva partions
[10:48] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: then I think you will need to put the drive in another system using an adapter to install
[10:48] <ActionParsnip2> zone000: you need a bootable partition containing the cd iso, its gonna get extremely messy
[10:48] <wallunit> How can I encrypt multiple partitions in a way tht i don't have enter a passphrase for each of them on boot?
[10:49] <shavin> It was coming in details when i was unsuccesfully trying to mount the volume earlier. It was related to "unclean shutdown" or similar words
[10:49] <zone000> so u mean i can install ubuntu into any external hardrive?
[10:49] <fosco_> zone000: yes, you can
[10:49] <ActionParsnip2> !usb | shavin
[10:49] <zone000> ok thanks alot
[10:50] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: wrong target, sorry
[10:50] <shavin> thats fine
[10:50] <shavin> BTW i have a usb ubuntu too and i am using it everday at home :-)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: http://www.hafenscher.net/wiki/index.php?page=Mount_USB_stick_read_and_writable_for_users
[10:51] <ActionParsnip2> shavin: that will give you the mount options you need to get user writability
[10:52] <sushanthreddy> how tomcat works in ubuntu
[10:52] <SunnyDP> whats it suppose to do?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip2> !tomcat
[10:53] <ActionParsnip2> !info tomcat
[10:53] <ActionParsnip2> !info tomcat2
[10:53] <ActionParsnip2> !find tomcat
[10:53] <ActionParsnip2> !info tomcat5.5
[10:54] <sushanthreddy> thanx ubottu
[10:54] <ActionParsnip2> sushanthreddy: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/installing-tomcat-6-on-ubuntu/
[10:56] <zone000> what was the usb link u gave me sorry i lost it?
[10:56] <sushanthreddy> sudo dpkg-get-selections | grep sun-java
[10:56] <sushanthreddy>  it is not working
[10:57] <zone000> how to install ubuntu in a usb?
[10:57] <sushanthreddy> mayi know the motherboard version
[10:58] <bazhang> !usb > zone000
[10:59] <ziroday> How would I symlink all the folders in ~/code/xbmcskins to ~/.xbmc/skin?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip2> sushanthreddy: then you dont have java installed
[10:59] <Qixotic> hi, I was wondering if there was a way to list directory contents like this:
[10:59] <ActionParsnip2> ziroday: you could just symlink the folder ;)
[11:00] <sushanthreddy> just now i am intsalling tomcat5.5
[11:00] <ziroday> ActionParsnip2: how?
[11:00] <Qixotic> root/dir_name/filename
[11:00] <Qixotic> root/dir_name/filename2
[11:00] <Qixotic> etc
[11:01] <ziroday> Qixotic: cd into /root and then do ls -l | grep dir_name ?
[11:01] <ziroday> Qixotic: err do ls -lr maybe
[11:01] <sushanthreddy> i have installed phpmyadmin ,but not opening it is saying forbidden
[11:01] <Qixotic> no, that's not what I'm looking for
[11:01] <ziroday> Qixotic: actually its ls -lR
[11:01] <sushanthreddy> when browser the folder sahre
[11:01] <sushanthreddy> it is there
[11:01] <ActionParsnip2> ziroday: mv ~/.xbmc/skin !/.xbmc/skin_old; ln -s ~/code/xbmcskins ~/.xbmc/skin
[11:01] <Qixotic> basically i want the full path name in front of each file
[11:02] <ActionParsnip2> ziroday: replace ! with ~
[11:02] <ziroday> ActionParsnip2: right, thanks!
[11:02] <ActionParsnip2> ziroday: the first part renames the original folder out of the way, the second part creates the link
[11:02] <ziroday> Qixotic: that will do it, as you're ls -R-ing from root but grepping only for the results you want
[11:03] <syockit> ziroday, Qixotic: why not use find?
[11:04] <Qixotic> no, that just prints out outpur in the format
[11:04] <ActionParsnip2> ziroday: any good?
[11:04] <Qixotic> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-02-05 20:29 Desktop
[11:04] <Qixotic> what I want is
[11:04] <ziroday> ActionParsnip2: seems so, just about to test it
[11:04] <sushanthreddy> how iptray works
[11:04] <Qixotic> full/path/name/filename
[11:04] <Qixotic> full/path/name/filename2
[11:04] <Qixotic> full/path/name/filename3
[11:04] <FloodBot1> Qixotic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <Qixotic> sorry
[11:04] <ziroday> Qixotic: try ls -1R
[11:05] <ziroday> Qixotic: instead of ls -lR
[11:05] <ActionParsnip2> ziroday: if it doesnt work you can rename the old folder back
[11:06] <ActionParsnip2> ziroday: I ALWAYS have a rollback method :D
[11:06] <Qixotic> ziroday: not exactly what i want, but I think it's close enough for me to script the output i want, thanks.
[11:06] <elimin8> Hello i have a few questions about ubuntu 8.10 am i in the right place?
[11:06] <ziroday> ActionParsnip2: saw that :)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: indeed, ask away
[11:06] <bazhang> elimin8, yep
[11:07] <elimin8> The system i have now is ubuntu 8.10 x86_32 on a amd 64x2 machine
[11:07] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: ok good so far
[11:07] <elimin8> it seems to be the version that operates best with my processor, but i was wondering if theres a way to minimize whats using my ram
[11:07] <syockit> Qixotic: or you can use find <path>, but it is slow
[11:08] <elimin8> so that i can use it for grapical processes and gui
[11:08] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: run ps -ef | less
[11:08] <elimin8> i have 5.4gb swap and a usb (readyboost like)
[11:08] <elimin8> erm whats the less?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: that is what is running in your ram right now, if yu can minimise those youo will use less ram
[11:09] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: try it without
[11:09] <ikonia> elimin8: the kernel will manage your ram really well
[11:09] <elimin8> post whats running here?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: it only lists processes so won't harm anything
[11:09] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: no just read it, and research what each is so you can sto pit running in future if its unnecessary
[11:09] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: DO NOT paste it all in here
[11:10] <elimin8> Ah i understand thank you
[11:10] <bazhang> !paste
[11:10] <elimin8> thats my process listing?
[11:10] <bazhang> you can paste there if you wish
[11:10] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: yep
[11:10] <elimin8> i dont want to spam the server if i can avoid it lol
[11:10] <ActionParsnip2> elimin8: all that stuff is running on yur system right now
[11:11] <elimin8> there are about 20 or so applications
[11:12] <elimin8> also one other question, by defualt ubuntu set aside 5.4gb of swap space on my system, in the debian channel they told me i needed 3gb max
[11:13] <elimin8> is that something specific to ubuntu?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: how much ram do you have?
[11:13] <elimin8> 2gb of physical ram
[11:13] <elimin8> no dedicated video card
[11:13] <ikonia> alexises: you need the same ammount as your ram if you wish to use hibernation, I'd always suggest ram+a bit extra to be able to swap out your ram totally and a bufer,
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> then 4Gb is usual, 2 x RAM
[11:13] <ikonia> alexises: sorry not you
[11:13] <ikonia> elimin8: that was for you
[11:13] <ikonia> elimin8: swap space is personal preference
[11:14]  * ActionParsnip1 thinks ubuntus "default" partitioning is obscene
[11:14] <elimin8> would lower swap space speed up the system?
[11:15] <elimin8> i have made a few tweaks like turning off system time stamps and such
[11:15] <elimin8> to help increase the speed, but honestly i dont see any
[11:16] <elimin8> i also used the "ready boost" concept of using usb for swap space and did notice a small performance difficene with grapical apps
[11:16] <elimin8> but then i was told that the hd is faster than usb
[11:16] <elimin8> so now im confused and back to square one
[11:18] <syockit> don't know if I've seen worse....
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> has anyone seen this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+bug/94048
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> crazy, just applied the fix myself, not tested yet
[11:20] <diffred> how do I mount windows partitions within the terminal¿? (I can do it in Places and clicking the windows partition and then asks me password to mount)
[11:20] <Dexi> Is there a way to get into rars without a pass?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> diffred: ntfs3g
[11:20] <dny> hi am trying to profile with gprof, but i do not get information about the runtime of my methods. i am compiling / linking with -g2 -pg. What am I doing wrong?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> !ntfs3g | diffred
[11:21] <diffred> ActionParsnip1: thanks!
[11:21] <elimin8> impressive
[11:21] <chris8> Hey room i have FTP question... Why do i have a Windows Network in my list of networks?  and why can't i delete it???
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: im just good friends with ubottu
[11:21] <elimin8> actionpastnip1 im reading that bug you posted, if it improves performance why is it a bug?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: not sure, i didnt log it
[11:22] <elimin8> sorry for terminating your name there.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: use tab to complete names ;)
[11:23] <chris8> What is a Windows Network?  why do i have one? :S :S:S
[11:23] <trygg> anyone have any clue why avant-window-navigator is so slow when its resizing?
[11:24] <elimin8> A windows network means theres windows systems on your network
[11:24] <trygg> it takes almost 2 seconds when im closing down an app for it to resize
[11:24] <kronicKoH> I have issues with video, but I'l see once I add a different PCI vid card
[11:24] <elimin8> is your router attached to any other pcs?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> chris8: i'd just disregard it
[11:25] <chris8> it was attached to a laptop that i just formatted
[11:25] <elimin8> thats why :)
[11:25] <chris8> that's what I thought!!! that #$^#$ Vista went and #@$^^$# my network w/o my permission
[11:26] <elimin8> I had vista too, its not very friendly.
[11:26] <chris8> will disappear when reset modem?
[11:26] <chris8> it even created shared files w/o my doing... insidious :S
[11:26] <elimin8> hm mi dont know the command but i know you can reinitalize your network that may clear it
[11:27] <chris8> ty
[11:27] <chris8> my undying love and affection
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> chris8: windows does that by default, all partitioned are automatically shared
[11:27] <elimin8> only if it works :)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart will do that
[11:28] <elimin8> thank you :)
[11:30] <elimin8> One other technical question, I didnt notice Xfce installed in 8.10 by default, is there a reason for that?
[11:30] <elimin8> its a very fast desktop option imho
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: if you want you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: then logout, change session to xfce and log back in
[11:31] <elimin8> Excellent, i owe you :)
[11:31] <elimin8> brb
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: if you just wanted xfce you should have got XUbuntu iso ;)
[11:32] <kronicKoH> ANY Ps'3"ers?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> !anyone | kronicKoH
[11:32] <bazhang> kronicKoH, #ubuntu-ps3
[11:33] <Dexi> does anyone know a way to get into a password pro'd .rar without the pass/
[11:33] <elimin8> Thats so much faster thank you
[11:33] <Bolin> Is it possible to change the standard character encoding in the terminal?
[11:33] <ikonia> Dexi: please don't ask for cracking help in here
[11:34] <Bolin> I want the default to be ISO-8859-1 instead of UTF-8
[11:34] <Bolin> So i dont have to change everytime i opens up a terminal
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: np, you will also have the standadrd gnome apps + libs installed
[11:35] <bazhang> !nickspam > Abracadabra
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> Bolin: i think you can change it in terminal settings
[11:35] <elimin8> Bolin, try this website http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=743933
[11:35] <elimin8> looks like it talks about what your asking
[11:35] <Abracadabra> ubottu: yes, apologies
[11:36] <Abracadabra> bazhang, sorry, I was grouping my nicks
[11:36] <bazhang> Abracadabra, thanks
[11:36] <Bolin> Thanks elimin8
[11:36] <elimin8> Welcome! :)
[11:38] <andylockran`>  
[11:38] <Bolin> elimin8: what do i change it to since i want swedish layout? "se_SV.ISO-8859-1" ?
[11:38] <Bolin> or just en_US.ISO-8859-1 ?
[11:38] <moniker127> Question: I'm using vmware workstation on windows 7 to run 8.04, and I cant browse inside of the vm. I've tried all the network setups, and i'm stumped. How do I set up the network between the host OS (windows) and the guest OS (ubuntu)?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> moniker127: if you share the folder in windows, the share will be accessible like any other shared resource from linux
[11:40] <elimin8> thats a good question Bolin, im unsure if it will accept the swedish
[11:40] <core1> a
[11:40] <elimin8> monkier127 be sure to enable write permissions on the windows machine though
[11:40] <Bolin> but will it accept en_US.ISO-8859-1 ?
[11:40] <geirha> Bolin: Don't think you can set the default character encoding with gnome-terminal I'm afraid. You can with xterm though, by starting it with: LANG=sv_SV.ISO-8859-1 xterm
[11:40] <moniker127> Actionparsnip1 i'm actually just looking to connect the VM to the internet, I dont much care about host access.
[11:41] <elimin8> xterm is the emulated terminal right?
[11:41] <chrisdone> yeah, of many
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> moniker127: if you want to browse the VM you will need to install and configure samba in the VM
[11:41] <Bolin> whats the diffrence between xterm and gnome-terminal+
[11:41] <core1> hai
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> moniker127: as long as the VM has an IP from your router, you will be able to browse it like a true system on the lan
[11:41] <moniker127> ActionParsnip1 oh okay thanks
[11:41] <chrisdone> Bolin: xterm has crappier fonts by default but doesn't require GNOME
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> !samba | moniker127
[11:42] <chrisdone> Bolin: gnome-terminal is faster than xterm and takes less memory
[11:42] <geirha> Bolin: Doesn't have a menu-bar, and you need to edit files to configure it
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> !info xterm
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> !info gnome-terminal
[11:42] <Bolin> then chaning is out of the question ;)
[11:42] <chrisdone> urxvt is faster than both and takes less memory, by far
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> chrisdone: i use yakuake due to it getting outta my face when its annoying me :)
[11:43] <chrisdone> ActionParsnip1: I have no idea what that means
[11:43] <geirha> Bolin: Yeah, rxvt is an option. Install it and give it a try: LANG=sv_SV.ISO-8859-1 rxvt
[11:43] <DIFH-ice1oot> chrisdone: its the quake3-terminal
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> chrisdone: have yo uever played quake / half-life etc
[11:43] <chrisdone> Bolin: they can all look the same: http://chrisdone.com/pics/xft.png
[11:43]  * sara_ goes for a nap
[11:43] <t-lux> #ubuntu-berlin
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> chrisdone: and you get the cosole you can bring down from the top with ~ to type commands
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> chrisdone: its like that
[11:44] <Bolin> will check it out... thanksl
[11:44] <Bolin> -l
[11:44] <chrisdone> Bolin: so really it depends on whether you need the memory and speed and can so bad that you can be bothered configuring it a bit
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> chrisdone: the gnome equiv is tilda
[11:45] <elimin8> tilda is the top dropdown terminal right?
[11:45] <chrisdone> no, I don't play games
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: yeah, yakuake is the kde equiv
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> chrisdone: http://www.gentoo.org.pl/images/stories/apps_png/app_yakuake_1.png
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> chrisdone: shows and hides from the top using keypress
[11:46] <chrisdone> I see
[11:48] <moniker127> I think I may be in way over my head trying to install and configure samba as a unix system newbie.
[11:48] <tiredbones> Is wodim design to replace cdrecord?
[11:48] <Bolin> where do i config colors and other apperance on rxvt?
[11:50] <Bolin> nvm
[11:50] <Bolin> found it
[11:52] <elimin8> does yakuke run constantly?
[11:52] <elimin8> yakauke* pardon
[11:52] <DIFH-ice1oot> elimin8: yes
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: yeah it sits and waits for you to press the key then descends
[11:53] <elimin8> so its probably not a good application for someone whos trying to trim running apps down :)
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: if you use gnome you want tilda
[11:53] <elimin8> tilda is installed but wont launch without running it by command line
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: if youo want less apps running then its a bad choice
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: alt+f2 type tilda hit enter
[11:54] <elimin8> ActionParsnip1, thank you :)
[11:55] <elimin8> in ubuntu are there a list of applciations that must remain running at all times?
[11:55] <elimin8> I was told if i trim down my running apps it may help speed up the system.
[11:56] <DIFH-ice1oot> elimin8: you are using gnome? kde? xfce4?
[11:56] <elimin8> none of the above
[11:56] <broonsparrow> hi. can anyone help with a mailman install.I'm following the guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman) and am coming across an error (it's not letting me create a newlist) anyone able to give me a hand?
[11:56] <elimin8> xfce
[11:57] <elimin8> xfce 4 wasnt an option
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: if you are running xfce on 2gb ram you will have more than enough to do whatever you need
[11:57] <DIFH-ice1oot> xfce? xubuntu-desktop=xfce4, right?
[11:57] <elimin8> xfce on ubuntu 8.10
[11:57] <kavity> Yes.
[11:59] <vegombrei> is there a way my bro can connect to my pc thru the internet and share files ? he uses windows xp .. please advise
[11:59] <elimin8> A side note, i really must commend your community efforts people.
[11:59] <redline5653> guys i need your help
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: run an ftp server or HFS share
[11:59] <malthe> pwd
[11:59] <noon`> vegombrei, samba
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> noon`: over wan, pretty risky
[12:00] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: sftp is a good choice and it comes with the openssh-server
[12:00] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | redline5653
[12:00] <noon`> oh i just figured it was lan ;-)
[12:00] <redline5653> my laptop keeps going into standby every 20-30 seconds i think its a thing called anacron doing it but cant remove it....
[12:01] <elimin8> redline5653, have you altered your power settings?
[12:01] <vegombrei> wow .. so many options .. whats the easiest a noob could adapt to outta those options ?
[12:01] <redline5653> no it's a fresh install
[12:01] <elimin8> ftp is the easiest to setup imho
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:02] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: then you can use sftp like DIFH-ice1oot
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> said
[12:02] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: then yo can connect to the pc e.g. with filezilla on port 22 and your userlogin
[12:02] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: thanks :) downloading ....
[12:02] <elimin8> amazing.
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> DIFH-ice1oot: or webdrive in windows ;)
[12:03] <DIFH-ice1oot> ActionParsnip1: i am happy not to know what this is :)
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> DIFH-ice1oot: deal
[12:03] <geirha> vegombrei: WinSCP is also a decent option for connecting from windows to an ssh server with sftp/scp
[12:03] <SunnyDP> Hello
[12:03] <SunnyDP> is there some type of application for sound purposes on ubuntu
[12:03] <SunnyDP> i used SRS before on windows
[12:03] <SunnyDP> loved it
[12:03] <FloodBot1> SunnyDP: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <DIFH-ice1oot> ActionParsnip1: but i think its a strange internet-explorer-thing
[12:03] <noon`> geirha, its pretty slow from my experience
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> SunnyDP: whats SRS?
[12:04] <syockit> SunnyDP: now if you'll properly explain what you want to achieve
[12:04] <vegombrei> geirha: so i should tell them windows users who wanna connect to my pc to install WinSCP is it ?
[12:04] <elimin8> One final question and ill keep myself quite for a while. If i want to install multiple distros on my current ubuntu machine, is there a way to resize the master partition or will i need to run gparted through a live cd to resize it?
[12:04] <jedfox> Who can set SOUND for Sound Blaster Live?
[12:05] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: ok bro .. installed ... now how to i create user and set it up ?
[12:05] <DIFH-ice1oot> elimin8: ubuntu is doing this while the installation
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: its your local users
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> !adduser | vegombrei
[12:05] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: oooh
[12:05] <geirha> vegombrei: Any client that can connect with sftp/scp really. noon` mentions winscp is slow, so maybe filezilla is better then.
[12:05] <elimin8> DIFH-ice1oot, my thanks.
[12:05] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnip1: srslabs.com
[12:06] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: so should i make another account like guest ? coz im on admin
[12:06] <SunnyDP> equalizer/Dolby controller
[12:06] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: dont use a root-account for sftp, just use the normal user-login
[12:07] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: because if you give someone a root-sftp-login you also give im a root-ssh-login!
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: call it what you like, id use something less obvios than guest
[12:07] <jaggedaloc> Hey, anyone on the ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[12:07] <DIFH-ice1oot> !anyone | jaggedaloc
[12:07] <jaggedaloc> Or edubuntu Classmate PC remix?
[12:08] <jedfox> I have some problem with SOUND in Ubuntu (Sound Blaster 5.1 Live). Who now how set that?
[12:08] <kenesh> hello room
[12:08] <kenesh> you have to see this
[12:08] <jaggedaloc> I'm wondering about the best image to use on my newly aquired 2go PC.
[12:09] <kenesh> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2029681589148358971&hl=en
[12:09] <vegombrei> DIFH-ice1oot: ActionParsnip1 : ok i made another account that doesnt have that many privilages ... how do i assign what all folders or hdd's i wanna share thru that account with people connecting to my ftp ?
[12:09] <Bolin> does anyone know of a homepage or something with a list over different terminals?
[12:09] <jaggedaloc> I updated to a later image, and it is better, but it is still marked Release Canidate.
[12:09] <Bolin> and with a little info on every terminal
[12:09] <jaggedaloc> I can
[12:09] <syockit> SunnyDP: it looks hardware specific
[12:09] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: you are sharing the /home/user
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> !sound | jedfox
[12:09] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: and all other files the user can use, sftp = ssh
[12:10] <jaggedaloc> I can't find an official release.
[12:10] <vegombrei> oh
[12:10] <vegombrei> DIFH-ice1oot: is there a way i can test this ?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: it will default to the users home dir, you can make a symlink in the folder to the data you want to sare but make sure you give the new user appropriate access to the data
[12:10] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: connect to localhost
[12:10] <jaggedaloc> Should I try unr?  Am I missing the actual release version of the Classmate image?
[12:11] <geirha> vegombrei: Make a group for the purpose of setting the access of such users. Add all users to that group, then set the group ownership of all files and folders they should have access to to that group. And of course, set the group read, write and execute bits accordingly
[12:11] <SunnyDP> should i instal Pulse audio ???
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> SunnyDP: if you are unhappy with your current sound system, sure otherwise, whats the point?
[12:12] <SunnyDP> yeah
[12:12] <vegombrei> geirha: i get that ive set all rights to read only ... i want that user to simply log in and download whatever .. i dont want them making changes ..
[12:12] <SunnyDP> i would like to have some surround sound features
[12:13] <SunnyDP> choose from Rock/Clasic/Modern/ settings for my equalizer
[12:13] <SunnyDP> where can i get that ?
[12:13] <vegombrei> geirha: however, i think ill also make a r/w/d folder so they can put some files in there for me too
[12:13] <vegombrei> DIFH-ice1oot: how do i connect to local host ?
[12:14] <DIFH-ice1oot> vegombrei: use filezilla (sudo apt-get install filezilla) host=localhost, user=your-user, pass= your-pass, port = 22
[12:14] <geirha> vegombrei: Places -> Connect to server, Type -> SSH, host: localhost etc...
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: you are going to learn a big lot about groups and permissions while you set this up
[12:15] <geirha> vegombrei: I recommend you give a seperate user to each of the persons that should be allowed to connect
[12:16] <vegombrei> i cant make multiple users .. i have a poor pc that will be really overwhelmed .. already the fan sometimes goes so loud its annoying
[12:17] <vostibackle> is there a way to open a file with the default application from a terminal?
[12:17] <gordonjcp> vegombrei: adding users typically doesn't increase the system load ;-)
[12:17] <geirha> vostibackle: xdg-open file
[12:17] <vostibackle> geirha: thanks :)
[12:18] <syockit> SunnyDP: this super-long thread might contain the answer to your question http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[12:18] <sorin7486> is there any way to restore a deleted ext3 partition
[12:18] <sorin7486> ?????
[12:18] <geirha> vegombrei: Makes no difference if you create one user or many.
[12:18] <broonsparrow> when i run gedit from the terminal I get this error "Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: XML declaration not well-formed
[12:18] <broonsparrow> " Any idea why?
[12:19] <vegombrei> i just connected thru filezilla .... it shows my entire home folder ! .. how do i direct that path to my external drive ?
[12:19] <montero> french?
[12:19] <SunnyDP> Thanks brother
[12:19] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: i see what you mean bro ... lots of permissions to be allotted hehehe
[12:20] <geirha> vegombrei: You browse to it. In the client you should be able to set which directory you enter by default, and you could also create a symlink in each user's homedir, so they can just double-click that
[12:20] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: can you pastebin the fonts.conf file please
[12:21] <emuq> hej
[12:21] <funkyHat> vegombrei: setting up another user just for sftp access will use negligible system resources so you should be fine
[12:22] <vegombrei> geirha: im a noob .. i donno much bro ... how can i set my ftp client to open my external drive folder by default instead of the home dir of that user
[12:22] <sorin7486> is there any tool to restore deleted partition
[12:22] <sorin7486> ?????
[12:22] <funkyHat> If you want to restrict sftp access to a particular folder you can use 'scponly' as the shell for that account, and set that person's root as the folder you want to allow access to
[12:23] <geirha> vegombrei: well, I've never used filezilla, but with nautilus, you set the path when you connect. If you omit the path, it opens in the homefolder
[12:23] <ActionParsnip1> !recover | sorin7486
[12:23] <ActionParsnip1> sorin7486: its easier to restore from your ackup
[12:23] <ActionParsnip1> *backup
[12:23] <geirha> vegombrei: Places -> Connect to Server: Set type to SSH, and fill in username, hostname and path
[12:24] <blizzle> ActionParsnip1, Safe to assume he doesn't have a backup ;)
[12:24] <sorin7486> thanks guys ...
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> blizzle: i assume nothing in here
[12:24] <funkyHat> vegombrei: which OS are you using?
[12:24] <ramontayag> hey everyone. what's the difference between ; and && when chaining commands?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> blizzle: no backup == data is expendable
[12:24] <vegombrei> geirha: i understand .. but im not gonna be the one connecting thru filezilla right .. my brothers got xp and he'll prolly download an ftp for windows .. how do i redirect the path when he loggs in to the external drive instead of the home folder
[12:25] <ikonia> ramontayag: one is do this exit, do the next, the other is do this, then if it works do that
[12:25] <blizzle> ActionParsnip1, no backup often == user is clueless.
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> ramontayag: ; == do this next. && = do this ONLY if the previos command succeeds
[12:25] <shockwave> hey can any one help me?
[12:25] <vegombrei> funkyHat: intrepid
[12:25] <funkyHat> vegombrei: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/scponly-limited-shell-for-secure-file-transfers.html < that is what you want
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> shockwave: ask and find out
[12:25] <ramontayag> ahh.. cool. thanks ikonia and ActionParsnip1  :) i couldn't find it in goog!
[12:25] <shockwave> with oss opensound
[12:25] <shockwave> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[12:26] <shockwave> im using vent
[12:26] <shockwave> +wine
[12:26] <oCean_> ramontayag: the "&&" means if previous command ends without error. You can use "||" as the opposite
[12:26] <shockwave> and when im not at the vent screen i cant talk
[12:26] <ramontayag> oCean_: cool =) thanks!
[12:26] <geirha> vegombrei: Click around in the connection options, there's got to be a place to put the path/folder you want to start in there somewhere
[12:27] <vegombrei> geirha: but dont you think it should be a feature in the openssh-server ?
[12:28] <broonsparrow> actionparsnip1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117622/ it's pasted here
[12:28] <blizzle> oCean_, Minor detail the opposite of doing "x command if y command succeeds" is "do x command if y fails".. which is not || :)
[12:28] <elimin8> A short time ago someone was asking about terminal alternatives, someone mentioned rtxc or something?
[12:28] <Boohbah> elimin8: rxvt
[12:28] <blizzle> elimin8, Try terminator
[12:28] <elimin8> thank you
[12:29] <funkyHat> vegombrei: choose the path to your USB drive as the user's home directory when you're setting up the user with those instructions
[12:29] <oCean_> blizzle: yes, you're right. An example might be easier to understand than the explanation..
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: you are missing the top line from your file. Here is mine: http://pastebin.com/f6dd1d36b
[12:30] <blizzle> oCean_, We might say && is conditional, || is not.
[12:31] <broonsparrow> Parnsip: it's <?xml version="1.0"?> <!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd"> when i treid to paste into thgepaste bin it wouldn;t let me
[12:31] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: you can tab complete names, that way it higlights like your name highlights when I address you
[12:33] <masood> does anyone know how to set gamma in intrepid? I used to do it in xorg.conf but that seems not in use anymore. (Intel graphics)
[12:33] <elimin8> masood, are you using nvidia drivers?
[12:34] <masood> elimin: no it's intel (965)
[12:34] <funkyHat> masood: xorg.conf is still used if you have it, it's just not usually necessary now, so go ahead and set it up if you need it
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: you could rename your file and make a new fonts file with my text instead just to test
[12:34] <broonsparrow> ActionParsnip1, ah right - i wondered how to do that! cheers. my first line is, I think, the same as yours
[12:34] <vegombrei> funkyHat: ive already installed openssh-server .. cant i configure that to work instead ?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: since you renamed it out you cn easil roll back if the test fails
[12:34] <geirha> vegombrei: Seems you can have filezilla take urls, so you could just send an url to the users: sftp://user@host/path/to/external/drive
[12:35] <masood> funkyHat: it's empty now, does it mean i need to write the whole thing?
[12:35] <anom1> Happy Epoch 1234567890 in advance!
[12:35] <funkyHat> vegombrei: scponly uses ssh to connect, it's just a way of restricting what a user can do once they've connected
[12:36]  * vegombrei is very confused :(
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> wow thats geeky
[12:36] <mick02> Folks, I installed the 64-bit version of Ubuntu 8.10 on a friends laptop last night but to my dismay,every time I rebooted the laptop it would not accept the password that I had set up. I've done all the usuals by making sure caps lock isn't on etc etc and Google is not giving me any answers. Has anyone in here experienced this problem and if so has anyone got a fix? Thanks in advance.
[12:36] <funkyHat> masood: if you do `ls /etc/X11` do you see anything that starts xorg.conf. ?
[12:36] <geirha> vegombrei: ssh only authenticates you, then passes you on to the system, which by default will send you to the homedir
[12:37] <jrib> mick02: reboot into recovery mode and reset the password
[12:37] <masood> funkyHat: yes i have xorg.conf but it's empty.
[12:37] <broonsparrow> ActionParsnip1, right done
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> mick02: boot to root console by pressing esc when grub shows its face and boot to recovery mode, you can then test the password with the keyboard before running passwd <username you created> to set the password
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: ok, do what you do to get the original error
[12:38] <funkyHat> masood: only xorg.conf? nothing like xorg.conf.(somenumbers)?
[12:38] <Num83rGuy> I am about to build a new computer using an ASUS M3N78-EM motherboard and was wondering if the issues with no/bad sound from the Realtek ALC1200 audio had been fixed?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> mick02: it may be a charset mismatch at the logon screen
[12:38] <broonsparrow> ActionParsnip1, nope, but when it opens gecit all i have a little sqaure boxes no text!
[12:38] <vegombrei> geirha: so installing scponly will fix that and redirect em to the external drive . right ?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: ok then remove the file you created and roll back your old file in
[12:39] <vegombrei> geirha: obviously hafta configure it
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: always give yourself a rollback path like that nad you will have fewer issues
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> *and
[12:39] <geirha> vegombrei: No ... why don't you just use the url scheme?
[12:39] <vegombrei> geirha: how ?
[12:39] <elimin8> Hmm im beginning to think i should set up a backup somewhere
[12:40] <vegombrei> geirha: can i pvt msg ya ?
[12:40] <geirha> vegombrei: Have the users create a shortcut to sftp://username@host/path/to/external/drive
[12:40] <geirha> vegombrei: ok
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: with usb drives being so cheap there is no excuse now, but you always get some user in here moaning their data has been lost
[12:41] <broonsparrow> ActionParsnip1, yeah cheers. back to how it was now
[12:41] <elimin8> Is there a way to see how much space a backup of my current settings and installations would take?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> broonsparrow: i get folks in here accusing m of harming thier files when i never do, they just use rm instead of mv
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> elimin8: df -h
[12:41] <dee25> i have ubuntu 8.10 my resolution is 800x600 how to change to that 1204x768
[12:41] <elimin8> Thanks :)
[12:42] <i-pink> hii
[12:42] <dee25> i have a intel 82865G
[12:42] <i-pink> i have no sound
[12:42] <elimin8> 22gb of data used, this might take a few usbs :)
[12:42] <jerndoe> hi, my workplace switcher item on panel is somehow ended up in the middel of panel and I cannot move it, how to do?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> dee25: it uses the i810 driver
[12:43] <i-pink> i need help to fit the alsa
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> dee25: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=542565
[12:43] <elimin8> jerndoe right click it and choose unlock
[12:43] <elimin8> then right click it again and choose move
[12:43] <elimin8> then relock it in place
[12:43] <jerndoe> elimin8: already did...
[12:43] <asfjio> hello, how can i see what is the version of my samba?
[12:43] <dee25> I SEE
[12:43] <elimin8> it wont allow adjustment?
[12:43] <dee25> HOW CAN I GET THAT DRIVER
[12:43] <masood> funkyHat: i have one xorg.conf.bak and xorg.conf.intel... but both are also empty
[12:44] <jerndoe> elimin8: no..
[12:44] <broonsparrow> ActionParsnip1, always back up!! any other ideas what may be up?
[12:44] <jerndoe> elimin8: by accident I moved the panel to the side (was in bottom).. and moved back it ended in the middle
[12:44] <badcat> greetings all. anyone here good with setting up audio?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> dee25: kill the caps, you will need to copy the section for the video card, monitor and screen
[12:44] <praet> asfjio: try smbclient --version
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> dee25: then restart your xserver, you will need gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit the file
[12:45] <hkais> hello
[12:45] <jerndoe> elimin8: if I add new item they also ends in the middle and can't be moved to the right (beside trashcan)
[12:45] <elimin8> jerndoe when you right click and choose customize panel is it set on fixed position?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> dee25: you are going to be wrestling xorg.conf til you get the display you desire
[12:45] <hkais> how can i udf-format a BD-RE (blueray rw) with ubuntu 8.04 LTS?
[12:45] <jerndoe> elimin8: can't find any "custimize panel"
[12:45] <asfjio> praet: thanks, if i want to update what sould i do apt-get upgrade samba ?
[12:46] <jibby> jibby
[12:46] <elimin8> jerndoe ill be right back let me reset my desktop to gnome
[12:46] <jerndoe> ok
[12:46] <jibby> hello
[12:47] <jibby> hello jerndoe
[12:47] <praet> asfjio: try  sudo apt-get install samba
[12:47] <jerndoe> jibby: hello
[12:47] <jibby> im new here
[12:47] <praet> asfjio: you will probably want samba-common too
[12:47] <hkais> noone with blueray and udf here?
[12:47] <jerndoe> jibby: pretty new myself.
[12:48] <asfjio> praet: if i already have samba installed it will update it?
[12:48] <jibby> where are you from
[12:48] <praet> asfjio: yea
[12:48] <jerndoe> denmark
[12:49] <dayo> !ot | jibby jerndoe
[12:49] <asfjio> praet: do i need to sync something, because it says that it is updated?
[12:49] <prone> Hello, does anyone know if there is some kind of bug in Ubuntu that makes Blender act very strange? even the simplest tasks are not working..
[12:49] <funkyHat> masood: looks like you'll have to create it from scratch then :/ I would have thought that old versions would get kept as backup if the system removed a config file
[12:49] <jibby> thanks
[12:50] <masood> funkyHat: ok. thanks
[12:51] <moniker127> Someone really needs to make a desktop environment for ubuntu that mirrors Beos/Haiku.
[12:51] <broonsparrow> mailman - when trying to config Mailman I'm getting an ilegal list name error - anyone able to help?
[12:51] <elimin8> jerndoe, im looking at the options now but im stumped
[12:51] <SleepingSebbe> Does someone know where I can get support for Xvnc?
[12:52] <syockit> moniker127: doesn't it look like windowmaker?
[12:52] <jerndoe> elimin8: ok..
[12:52] <uriol> hi
[12:52] <praet> asfjio: what version does it report?
[12:52] <moniker127> I dont know I dont use widowmaker.
[12:52] <asfjio> praet: 3.0.26a
[12:52] <uriol> is there a way to import little widgets applications into screenlets ?
[12:53] <elimin8> jerndoe have you recently installed or changed compiz?
[12:53] <SAnDY_COOl> raj r u ther
[12:53] <jerndoe> elimin8: noped... almost clean install of 8.10
[12:53] <jerndoe> elimin8: as I said, I accidently moved the panel..
[12:54] <asfjio> praet: nevermind i will check it myself thanks for the help
[12:54] <praet> asfjio: try this : sudo apt-get install samba samba-common smbclient
[12:54] <elimin8> Jerndoe but moving the panel would have sent it back to its defualt.
[12:54] <asfjio> praet: ok, thank you again
[12:54] <praet> good luck
[12:54] <elimin8> thats why im stumped.
[12:54] <uriol> ?
[12:54] <jerndoe> elimin8: yeah but it didn't, thats my problem :-)
[12:54] <jerndoe> elimin8: i
[12:55] <jerndoe> elimin8: ill try and move it again..
[12:55] <elimin8> wait i think i see what you mean
[12:55] <uriol> is there a way to import little widgets applications into screenlets ?
[12:55] <uriol> in ubuntu
[12:55] <elimin8> you moved the workspace switcher to the left of its home?
[12:55] <ct529> I have 810 64bit installed on a SATA disk .... is it better to set the disk up as ATA or as AHCI in the BIOS (performance - wise)? It is presently ATA ....
[12:55] <jerndoe> elimin8: when moved to the side, the items are placed correct
[12:56] <jerndoe> elimin8: yeah... its in the middle of the panel, I want it to the right with the trash
[12:56] <hkais> how can i format my blueray (BD-RE) with UDF under ubuntu 8.04 LTS?
[12:56] <elimin8> you mean you moved the entire panel not just the switcher?
[12:56] <jerndoe> yeah...
[12:56] <elimin8> Ahh
[12:56] <elimin8> ill try
[12:56] <jerndoe> elimin8: my my my... its corrected now...
[12:57] <jerndoe> elimin8: i moved it to the side and back again and its fixed :-)
[12:57] <elimin8> jerndoe excellent :)
[12:57] <jerndoe> elimin8: thx, also a great help to have to reflect with an extra set of eyes
[12:58] <elimin8> i was just unclear what bug you were having :)
[12:58] <elimin8> from the description i though it was just the window selector
[12:58] <elimin8> good to know its sorted though :)
[12:59] <chris8> Have problem with Remote Desktop Viewer... can't open connection between 2 ubuntu OSs on LAN... tried using terminal and same happen :/
[12:59] <jerndoe> elimin8: well I moved the panel, and the window selector ended up in the middle of the panel
[13:00] <dee25> how u change the resolution in the etc x11 org
[13:01] <oCean_> chris8: in terminal same thing happens - you mean you cannot reach the other machine?
[13:03] <threefcata> i'm running hardy on my thinkpad x31, but the hardware drivers dialogbox say i don't have any restricted driver choice, but i wanna use direct rendering, what should i do?
[13:05] <elimin8> I have been a windows user for 15 years, learned to repair pcs off of it. I just wanted to take a moment to say how unreal it feels to actually feel at home on something completly diffirent than what i thought was the only option.
[13:05] <jedfox> thanks ubottu
[13:05] <rip_> is there some sort of vmware solution for linux, so i can boot into windows within ubuntu?
[13:05] <elimin8> wubi
[13:06] <jibby> I installed gtalk but but didnt find it under the Application >> internet
[13:06] <elimin8> wait sorry thats wrong
[13:06] <ct529> rip_: virtualbox
[13:06] <dee25> virtualbox
[13:06] <uppsalabo> Hi out there. Anybody know how to get around kdebase-kio-plugins not available when trying to install e.g. knights?
[13:06] <ct529> !virtualbox
[13:06] <rip_> virtualbox it is
[13:06] <rip_> lol
[13:06] <elimin8> yes sorry, i had it opposite :)
[13:06] <ct529> rip_: I am running both xp and ubuntustudio in virtual machines using virtualbox
[13:07] <rip_> ct529: sweet :) ty, lookin it up now
[13:07] <uppsalabo> rip, you could get vmware server (free download) for linux, it should run at ubuntu as well as other flavours :)
[13:07] <elimin8> virtualbox runs any iso as a system right, will it save the settings of that system also?
[13:07] <Ace|Work> greetings, I'm trying to install my RAID driver (highpoint 2320) however doing a make install still calls mkinitrd. would someone be kind enough to help me change the makefile ?
[13:07] <rip_> elimin8 that was my next question
[13:09] <ct529> I have 810 64bit installed on a SATA disk .... is it better to set the disk up as ATA or as AHCI in the BIOS (performance - wise)? It is presently ATA ....
[13:10] <iz_> I'm trying to mount ttyS0, but can't seem to figure out how.
[13:10] <Ace|Work> ct529: yes, if not it AHCI it does not use NQC (native command queueing)
[13:10] <Ace|Work> ct529: in other words, set it to AHCI mode to enable SATA2 features
[13:11] <spsneo> I want to mirror a repository for local access in my university, but the server has fedora on it. so how can I mirror an ubuntu repo on fedora
[13:11] <ct529> Ace|Work: if I switch it now, will it cause any trouble?
[13:11] <ct529> Ace|Work: the installtion is done
[13:12] <uppsalabo> Anybody know how to get around dependency problems in 8.10 involving kdebase-kio-plugins?
[13:12] <Ace|Work> ct529: In windows it will after install, I doubt it will in ubuntu however it can be easely changed back if it does not work and then it will boot fine again
[13:13] <Ace|Work> spsneo: as long as you can get apt-mirror installed i dont see why running it on fedora would be a problem
[13:13] <ct529> Ace|Work: I used to use a nice command line command that returned a detailed description of the hardware on my pc .... I forgot it .... do you by any chance remember it?
[13:13] <Ace|Work> ct529: do you mean "lspci" or "dmesg" ?
[13:13] <bimberi> lshw
[13:13] <Ace|Work> doh :)
[13:13] <bimberi> :)
[13:14] <redline5653> does anyone know why my fresh install goes to standby every 30-40 seconds?
[13:14] <ct529> Ace|Work: nope, none of the two .... it returned detailed information on the motherboard and the manufacturers as well ....
[13:15] <Ace|Work>  I'm trying to install my RAID driver (highpoint 2320) however doing a make install still calls mkinitrd. would someone be kind enough to help me change the makefile to call initramfs instead?
[13:15] <Ace|Work> ct529: you tried "lshw" which bimberi suggested as wel ?
[13:15] <Ace|Work> think thats the one you are looking for
[13:16] <spsneo> Ace|Work: so I just need to compile apt-mirror source and install it?
[13:16] <spsneo> right?
[13:16] <karlwett1n> where is the pppd log located by default? it doesnt seemt to use syslog?
[13:16] <elimin8> redline5653, are you able to restart it by moving your mouse?
[13:16] <karlwett1n> see, im trying to get pptpd running but get this funky error i cant seem to figure out: Feb 13 14:08:32 keb pptpd[6576]: GRE: read(fd=6,buffer=8059540,len=8196) from PTY failed: status = -1 error = Input/output error, usually caused by unexpected termination of pppd, check option syntax and pppd logs
[13:17] <ct529> very nice! bimberi
[13:17] <ct529> thanks Ace|Work / bimberi
[13:17] <ct529> (it was not the one I used before but it works well)
[13:18] <TimothyP> Hi, I use pppd to set up a gprs connection, works fine, but it does not automatically reconnect when disconnected, any suggestions? (Ubuntu server)
[13:18] <sipior> karlwett1n: ensure that pppd is being started with the verbose option, and check other entries in /var/log (/var/log/daemon.log, for instance). "grep pppd /var/log/*"
[13:28] <jcfp> TimothyP: in /etc/ppp/options - try enabling "persist"
[13:28] <jcfp> iirc default behaviour is to exit upon losing connection
[13:31] <SpiritD> I couldn't find the root.. I wrote sudo apt-get install root
[13:32] <syockit> SpiritD: what you doing?
[13:32] <SpiritD> :P
[13:32] <SpiritD> asking a stupid question tbh
[13:33] <TimothyP> jcfp thank you
[13:33] <kjell> root is a user, not an application you can download
[13:33] <voicu> SpiritD: root is a user wth administrative privileges
[13:33] <SpiritD> <SpiritD> asking a stupid question tbh
[13:33] <kjell> !root
[13:33] <voicu> SpiritD: ubuntu doesn't have it enabled at first
[13:33] <SpiritD> LOL
[13:33] <SpiritD> zomg
[13:33] <elimin8> redline5653 is having issues with his battery power not being detected due to a faulty battery on his laptop, which is kicking his system into standby, is there a way to disable that ?
[13:34] <kjell> SpiritD: You most often wont need the root-account enabled. Read the link above.
[13:34] <SpiritD> kjell
[13:34] <SpiritD> can you not read?
 asking a stupid question tbh <------------
[13:34] <kjell> SpiritD: I don't understand that statement.
[13:34] <kjell> SpiritD: A question is a question.
[13:34] <syockit> tbh --> to be happy?
[13:35]  * SpiritD blinks
[13:35] <mcstinky> honest
[13:35] <voicu> ... it's "to be honest"
[13:35] <voicu> happy would be nicer though :P
[13:35] <kjell> SpiritD: If it's stupid or not, I don't care. It's supposed to get an awnser here and I tried to explain why you couldn't download root.
[13:35] <voicu> yeah, it wasn't a flame or anything
[13:36] <SpiritD> meh a failed troll
[13:36] <kjell> sigh
[13:36]  * SpiritD wonders if you guys know what a troll is
[13:37]  * Dr_Willis hasent a clue what  the argument is even about.. but he bets its offtopic.
[13:37]  * lumis agrees
[13:37]  * voicu is happy he was a part of it though
[13:37] <perlsyntax> How do i run a program i made withpython-gtk2-dev python-gtk2-dev?
[13:37] <SpiritD> lol voicu
[13:38] <lumis> heh
[13:38] <anthiste> guys how long does it usually take to patch source
[13:38] <perlsyntax> is this package the same as pygtk?
[13:38] <threefcata> how to see the version of my x.org?
[13:38] <threefcata> and how to see the version of libGL?
[13:38] <bernz> anthiste, once you understand the source, most patches don't take that long, but understanding the source could take some time
[13:38] <perlsyntax> anyone?
[13:39] <anthiste> hmm im talking bout a auto patch like with a dl'ed diff file
[13:39] <bernz> anthiste, (but if you meant, "how long does the average patch (say, kernel) take to work its way through the system, idk)
[13:39] <anthiste> im trying to patch wine
[13:39] <Wiccy> perl - i would assume you just run the application in a terminal
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> threefcata,  most programs support the  'programname --version' or programname -version or 'programname -v  or -V' options.  X may be one of the odd ones that doswent do  --version
[13:39] <bernz> oh, that kind of patch... shouldn't usually take long at all (a few minutes at most, seconds typically)
[13:39] <SpiritD> zomg wiccy is using windows 7
[13:39] <SpiritD> burn him
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> X -version  :) it  likes to be odd it seems
[13:40] <anthiste> O_O ok coz i tried patching newest wine
[13:40] <perlsyntax> yes
[13:40] <Dr_Willis>  SpiritD  so am i.. and virtualbox + linux inside.
[13:40] <anthiste> and it failed like instantly
[13:40] <Wiccy> io have ubuntu installed as well - its just right now im using windows for some apps wine doesnt like running
[13:40] <anthiste> now im using the right src version.. but it seems to be stuck
[13:40] <SleepingSebbe> Hi, I"m having a problem with Xvnc. When a user makes a connection and doesn't logout the right way, but just closes his vnc window with the X in the upper right corner, he doesn't logout. When he opens a new connectie he gets a error message saying he is still logged in. Any suggestion how to fix this problem?
[13:41] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[13:41] <bernz> anthiste, okay, i haven't suggested this before, because maybe it's stupid, but what about just running a windows install in a virtual machine instead of using wine?
[13:41] <pranavt> hello
[13:41] <anthiste> well lol im trying to test gaming on ubuntu
[13:42] <bernz> anthiste, ahh, okay :-)
[13:42] <piasdom> how do i check to see if my new video card is useing the correct drivers ? i have a latency error i need to correct
[13:42] <anthiste> so far i find wine highly overrated :S
[13:42] <Mahen23> hi
[13:42] <bernz> anthiste, let's talk more specifically in private (this chan is for more general stuff, i think)
[13:42] <Mahen23> see this
[13:43] <Mahen23> http://staticglow.dils.biz/screenshot/index.php
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> I find games highly overratted
[13:43] <pranavt> could anyone recommend software that does full-disk-cloning? something like a norton ghost, so i can recover an exact state of the os in the future?
[13:43] <SleepingSebbe> Hi, I"m having a problem with Xvnc. When a user makes a connection and doesn't logout the right way, but just closes his vnc window with the X in the upper right corner, he doesn't logout. When he opens a new connectie he gets a error message saying he is still logged in. Any suggestion how to fix this problem?
[13:43] <voicu> pranavt: I just use the dd command
[13:44] <jrib> pranavt: partimage
[13:44] <jim_p> !irc
[13:44] <pranavt> let me read up
[13:44] <Mahen23> i dont hear audio when playing FLV videos with VLC
[13:44] <Mahen23> 	i dont hear audio when playing FLV videos with VLC
[13:44] <television> How do I set up Ubuntu (Intrepid Ibex) to always use my TV as the main monitor (instead of VGA or whatever)? My TV is plugged into the S-video on my Radeon HD 2400 PRO video card.
[13:44] <Mahen23> 	i dont hear audio when playing FLV videos with VLC
[13:45] <Pici> !repeat | Mahen23
[13:45] <jim_p> dows anyone know a qt4 based irc client? i dont like quassel because it has a daemon running all the time at the background
[13:45] <syockit> jim_p: kvirc
[13:45] <Mahen23> !patience
[13:45] <jim_p> syockit, give me a sec
[13:45] <pranavt> lol
[13:45] <chaosphere_> @mahen23: do you hear audio when playing other file formats in VLC?
[13:45] <Mahen23> yes, when playing DVD
[13:45] <pranavt> jrib, thanks! looks useful :)
[13:46] <yanyan> Hello everyone
[13:46] <kjell> !hello | yanyan
[13:46] <Mahen23> !patience does not work :(
[13:46] <syockit> jim_p: ah, so that explains why it's crunching my pc like heck
[13:47] <arturgam3r> Mahen23 perhaps the file dont has audio
[13:47] <jim_p> syockit, well its memory footprint may be minimal, but i still dont like it. kvirx is on qt3, like kmess is
[13:47] <yanyan> I am using ubuntu ppc I want to install a player to play realmedia files
[13:47] <Mahen23> no, it plays well
[13:47] <Mahen23> with other video players
[13:47] <bernz> television, i'm not sure, but it sounds like it might be do-able by editing your xorg.conf file... you'll have to read about "alternate" or "multiple" displays (which are sometimes called "screens" in X terminology)
[13:48] <yanyan> Does anybody know how to
[13:48] <television> thanks for the lead bernz
[13:48] <syockit> jim_p: which distro version you on? mine has a qt4 kvirc
[13:48] <bernz> television, sure, and a warning: it's not simple, but read it over a few times and it'll start to make sense; try 'man xorg.conf' to start
[13:48] <jim_p> syockit, 8.04
[13:49] <syockit> jim_p: touch luck then :(
[13:50] <chaosphere_> have a look in vlc's preferences what audio system (oss, alsa, etc) is used for playing dvd audio. try to set this also for flv
[13:50] <Pici> !x | television
[13:50] <jim_p> syockit, did you also use quassel?
[13:51] <spsneo> how to set up local ubuntu repo mirror on a fedora machine?
[13:51] <syockit> jim_p: for some time, yes. But everytime it connects to a server or open a channel, the cpu does some crunching. So I changed back to konv after that
[13:52] <syockit> jim_p: but now I'm irssi
[13:52] <monia> hi
[13:52] <jim_p> syockit, how do i change channel "tabs" in irssi?"
[13:52] <DJones> jim_p: Alt+tab number
[13:53] <syockit> jim_p: alt-<numbers>?
[13:53] <jim_p> never thought of that
[13:53] <DJones> jim_p: or alt and left/right arrow to cycle through the tabs
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> or /window next (i think)
[13:53] <syockit> jim_p: you ought to check irssi homepage for that. it also lists customizations that makes irc life easier
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Irssi homepage is a MUST check out. :)
[13:55]  * bernz has posted his xorg.conf for a Gateway MX-6961 for illustrative purposes (examples are awesome) for 'television', here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117648/
[13:55] <bernz> (it includes disabling of tap-click, which ticks me right off)
[13:56] <dupondje--> bug added into php
[13:57] <dupondje--> since update from yesterday :(
[13:58] <bernz> (to be precise, the specific magic is option 'MaxTapTime' in your 'InputDevice' section for your touchpad -- set it to zero [this is for the log]
[13:58] <SleepingSebbe> Hi, I"m having a problem with Xvnc. When a user makes a connection and doesn't logout the right way, but just closes his vnc window with the X in the upper right corner, he doesn't logout. When he opens a new connectie he gets a error message saying he is still logged in. Any suggestion how to fix this problem?
[14:00] <nucc1> hi, is it possible to ping a device's MAC address?
[14:00] <arvind_khadri> nucc1: no
[14:01] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, it would be interesting to observe the traffic with a sniffer (e.g. Wireshark -- 'sudo apt-get install wireshark') to be certain of what's actually happening at the end of the session
[14:01] <zaggynl> nucc1: look into ARP
[14:01] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, but if it's a bug (weird), maybe there's a newer version you can try, or (worse, but it happens), downgrade to an older version
[14:02] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, or simply try a different VNC viewer (client) program
[14:03] <red__> hi
[14:03] <diego> bom dia
[14:03] <red__> aby one use k3b
[14:03] <diego> alguem pode me tirar uma duvida?
[14:04] <Pici> !br | Guest82835
[14:04] <red__> sorry dude only read english
[14:04] <lumis> anyone know why Ubuntu is automatically setting my CPU freq. to 1Ghz? cpufreq-selector allows me to change it to what it should be, but it resets after reboot
[14:04] <hellmasterjbe> alguem pode me tirar uma duvida?
[14:04] <red__> ny one use k3b
[14:04] <Pici> !br | hellmasterjbe
[14:04] <bernz> (rationale for it being a bug, for completeness: if the viewer hung and went zombie before closing its connection, it could be sitting there, dangling with an open connection that's doing nothing; typically a time-out would clean this up (even on the server end), but i don't know VNC protocol)
[14:04] <Pici> !anyone | red__
Fatal error</b>:  Unknown: Cannot use both zlib.output_compression and output_handler together!! in <b>Unknown</b> on line <b>0</b><br />
[14:05] <dupondje--> what could cause this ? getting it into error.log from apache
[14:05] <arturgam3r> lumis: why have 2GH if 1gh are enough?
[14:05] <red__> how do i back up dvd on k3b
[14:05] <SleepingSebbe> bernz: I don't think it's a bug, it's a configuration problem I guess
[14:05] <lumis> arturgam3r: It's just bugging me, and 1Ghz isn't enough :)
[14:06] <Pici> dupondje--: If you believe that this is a bug that was introduced with the last update, file a bug on launchpad.
[14:06] <Pici> !bugs | dupondje--
[14:06] <arturgam3r> lumis: if you need more, it weill be increased automaticly
[14:06] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, are you connecting "directly" (e.g. LAN), or via some proxy of some sort?
[14:06] <Pici> red__: You don't.  Use k9copy or dvd::rip for that.
[14:06] <DasEi1> red__: either as an iso or a disk-copy
[14:06] <lumis> arturgam3r: ah ok, thanks
[14:07] <red__> ok thanks
[14:07] <arturgam3r> atomaticly: just try to play f. e. Nexuiz or code an audio file :-)
[14:08] <SleepingSebbe> bernz: We're connecting directly. We are students working on a school project. We need to make the lab-pc's accesable from the internet. We started 3 Xvnc listening on their own port, but if a user gets inactive we can shutdown the connection itself, but the user is still logged in.
[14:08] <dupondje--> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/329053
[14:10] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, you mean the VNC server *thinks* the user is still logged in, but the connection is properly closed? (sounds like server missed the event somehow, and is now holding onto bogus session data or something)... still, a trace of the traffic is probably the most useful observation to begin with (i'm not an expert, mind you)
[14:10] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, (of course, it also sounds like you are using some sort of VPN-like thing in the middle to bridge your lab (usually isolated) with Internet-at-large)
[14:11] <red__> using kp now!
[14:11] <red__> oops k9
[14:11] <bernz> (i'm including NAT issues and so on, though you might have already addressed that)
[14:12] <SleepingSebbe> bernz: Yes and no, the VNC server closes his connection to the client. But the user is still logged on the machine, when he wants to login again the gets an error that he is already logged in. So we are looking for a solution to auto logout a inactive user or to logout when the VNCserver connection is killed
[14:13] <bemuse> Hi, can anyone tell me what program i need to get my panel bars looking like this http://fc80.deviantart.com/fs29/i/2008/072/7/5/mookid_Gtk_by_aMADme.png
[14:13] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, okay, well, here's an idea i thought of in 2 seconds, so it's pretty much ummm.. german-word is "umstaendlich" -- can't think of the english, atm -- anyway: write a simple proxy that goes between your server and the next level "out" (to-Internet) -- if it loses connection, it will "notice", and then it can take some action (shell script or something) to do whatever is required to give the server a kick in the head and log the user out
[14:14] <rakudave> brendan`: the word is "cumbersome" :)
[14:15] <rakudave> bernz, not brendan`
[14:15] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, erm, or maybe the same idea, but in reverse -- in any case
[14:15] <bernz> rakudave, ah, close, but i'm thinking more... um... "overcomplicated" (but that's not even a real word, i think)
[14:15] <SleepingSebbe> bernz: sounds complicated because we are using a VPN, and we would like to implement a java VNC viewer. Is there an option to auto logout after a certain amount of time?
[14:16] <rakudave> bernz: ok, "overkill" then...
[14:16] <francesco_> ciao a tutti
[14:16] <bernz> SleepingSebbe, for that, i'd check the documentation for the VNC server you're using; it should be in there somewhere, though i don't know what it would be called (search text for 'auto', though, for sure)
[14:16] <godowner> Hello all, Is there anyone that can help me with installing gdlibrary2 ? please :S
[14:16] <bernz> rakudave, yeah, well... it's hard to translate
[14:17] <edju> /etc/passwd has the shell for nobody set as /bin/sh.  Should that be /bin/false?
[14:17] <bernz> rakudave, i mean, to get the precise connotation right in English
[14:17] <bernz> (anyway, i'm drifting off topic :-)
[14:18] <rakudave> :)
[14:18] <bemuse> :(
[14:18] <kreino_> help! how to copy nautilus script file to /home/~user/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/, but in my home folder, i couldn't find that "/home/~user/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/"?
[14:19] <Guest40862> hi, how can I see the available space left
[14:19] <Cheery> hi
[14:19] <gordonjcp> Guest40862: df -h
[14:19] <Myrtti> kreino_: you can find .gnome2/nautilus-scripts?
[14:19] <kreino_> no.. i dont know where is it?
[14:19] <Myrtti> kreino_: .gnome2 is a hidden folder
[14:19] <Guest40862> thanks
[14:19] <kreino_> so?
[14:19] <Myrtti> the . in the beginning is for that
[14:19] <kreino_> what should i do to view hidden folder?
[14:20] <Myrtti> kreino_: tick the checkbox in the View -menu to see it
[14:20] <Myrtti> kreino_: (IIRC)
[14:20] <Cheery> if you start up firefox and quickly tap ctrl+l, does it crash?
[14:21] <bernz> agreeing with Myrtti, and adding try CTRL+H also
[14:21] <kreino_> thnks myrtti
[14:21] <Myrtti> kreino_: no probs
[14:21] <mb__> hi there
[14:22] <mb__> where I can download some themes and how I can install them? (i mean: system - appearance - themes)
[14:23] <heatmzzr> how do I erase a hard drive? what is the command, try to delete files on it but it says i dont have permission
[14:23] <bemuse> www.deviantart.com mb__
[14:23] <mb__> heatmzzr: try with man dd
[14:23] <guancin> ciao a tutti
[14:23] <Pici> !it | guancin
[14:23] <heatmzzr> mb__ huh
[14:23] <bemuse> is this through terminal heatmzzr
[14:23] <arturgam3r> heatmzzr: try to do it with sudo
[14:23] <bemuse> yeah ^
[14:23] <bernz> heatmzzr, you could unmount the drive, then do 'mkfs' on it ... to learn more, 'man umount', and 'man mkfs'
[14:24] <bernz> heatmzzr, also, sorry i meant, unmount the _volume_, not the drive
[14:24] <elimin8> mb__, http://www.gnome-look.org/
[14:24] <mb__> thanks
[14:25] <bemuse> can anyone tell me what program this person is using to make the panels like that - http://fc80.deviantart.com/fs29/i/2008/072/7/5/mookid_Gtk_by_aMADme.png
[14:25] <kreino_> em myr.. after i copied Send To's nautilus script file to .gnome2/nautilus-scripts n how to active that script?
[14:25] <bemuse> i've got the .rc files, i dont know what programs i need
[14:25]  * bernz would like to stress how important it is to use standard (some would say "correct" but let's not get political) terminology when describing a problem [this is also for the log]
[14:25] <heatmzzr> bernz: kinda newbie. tried to load 64bit ver last night, but realized some things I need to use arent available, so now I have a bootloader full of crap i dont want
[14:26] <kreino_> em myrtt after i copied Send To's nautilus script file to .gnome2/nautilus-scripts n how to active that script?
[14:26] <Cheery> bemuse: that's ugliest desktop I've ever seen
[14:26] <bernz> heatmzzr, well, out of sight, out of mind, right? so you should be able to edit your boot menu (read docs on your bootloader to find its location) and remove the unwanted entries, and you're done ;-) (that's the "quick and dirty" way, though... not the Right Way)
[14:27] <bernz> (in this case, i don't know what the Right Way is, just that what i suggested is not it)
[14:27] <bemuse> Besides that fact, do you know what program I'm suppose to be looking for.
[14:27] <arturgam3r> kreino_: try to retsart with CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[14:27] <Cheery> bemuse: I've never seen that, been myself wondering whether there would be a better desklet implementation
[14:28] <kreino_> ok
[14:28] <bemuse> Okay :(
[14:28] <Cheery> I gues I'd google "pimp your gnome"
[14:29] <iz_> I'll give this another try; how do I make Xubuntu aware of the serial port as a "com device", or at least mount i properly?
[14:29] <heatmzzr> bernz: would rather free up hard drive space rather that have 3 distros crowding things
[14:29] <xaos11> hi
[14:29] <bernz> heatmzzr, fair enough; in that case, step 0: backup the installation you want to keep ;-)
[14:30] <sipior> iz_: do you have the terminal devices /dev/ttyS[0-3]?
[14:30] <Cheery> hoh, that google lookup actually gives something gnome related. :)
[14:30] <sipior> iz_: also, is your login a member of the "dialout" group?
[14:30] <elimin8> bemuse, try this website ? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/mookid?content=76813
[14:30] <heatmzzr> bernz: couldnt i delete everything on that hdd since thats where the mess is then simply edit bootloader>?
[14:30] <elimin8> its a mod of dyne gtk
[14:31] <bernz> heatmzzr, and frankly, at today's speeds, it might be fastest to just wipe everthing, and re-install the distro you want, then restore (remount) your (already-separated-in-advance) '/home' and other "keeper" partitions
[14:31] <DeathNote> hello
[14:31] <DeathNote> I need help
[14:31] <DeathNote> u guys can help me hopefully
[14:31] <bernz> heatmzzr, but you'll learn the least that way (of course, doing it the "hard way" to learn will take quite a while, and much reading)
[14:31] <DeathNote> hey bernz can you help me
[14:31] <xaos11> !ask |deathnote
[14:32] <Paolo88> hi
[14:32] <DeathNote> I need to modify kernel
[14:32] <heatmzzr> tried to wipe everything on install, ended up with yet another distro.. lol that was funny what you said
[14:32] <xaos11> ok
[14:32] <kreino> if we do something mistake in terminal.. then what should we do if we want to default back? to rolling back...
[14:32] <heatmzzr> im working in an office dont have time to learn...lol
[14:32] <Paolo88> my ubuntu 8.04 persistent on pendrive don't ask me the root password
[14:32] <xaos11> DeathNote: what do you need to do to the kernel?
[14:32] <Cheery> http://lifehacker.com/software/lifehacker-top-10/top-10-gnome-desktop-tweaks-291986.php
[14:32] <xaos11> kreino: what mistake?
[14:33] <DeathNote> make him more powerfull i need to handle like 20,000 connections
[14:33] <heatmzzr> bernz: lol where and how would i edit bootloader?
[14:33] <puar> sonia
[14:33] <Cheery> DeathNote: network connections?
[14:33] <bemuse> thanks so much elimin8
[14:33] <arturgam3r> heatmzzr: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:34] <puar> hello scunzi
[14:34] <bemuse> i found the theme off deviantart, there wasnt as much information
[14:34] <elimin8> bemuse, your welcome.
[14:34] <bemuse> thanks a bunch :)
[14:34] <puar> hi lupo
[14:34] <DeathNote> yeah need to handle 20k connections !!!
[14:34] <rage-> gratz
[14:34] <kreino> when i pressed ctrl+alt+backspace... then i restart. during restart, before it login back to system, it comes out with a message said that certain folder should be chmod 667...em i forget. then i cannot copy that message?
[14:34] <fader> kreino: Generally there's not a lot you can do.  What do you need to roll back?
[14:34] <[wito]> I'm having some sound config problems; my "good" device isn't showing up in the kde config module
[14:34] <[wito]> what's a better program for setting sound settings?
[14:34] <puar> oye anyone can says wht is this
[14:34] <puar> can i install rediff on linix ubuntu
[14:35] <arturgam3r> kreino: before you can run a skript you have to use chmod
[14:35] <Scunizi> Can I run screen on my local machine and ssh into another machine to run screen there? or will commands to screen only go to the local instance?
[14:35] <bernz> heatmzzr, what i found useful when replacing a whole disk, is to delete the partition table and write it (to ensure it's clean), then reboot into whatever distro's installer CD
[14:35] <sipior> DeathNote: is your current system having a problem with that load? and if so, what do you plan on modifying in the kernel sources to sort things out?
[14:35] <kreino> what command that need to be used..?
[14:35] <bernz> heatmzzr, anyway, first identify your bootloader (it's probably GRUB, but check to be sure)
[14:35] <kreino> chmod command
[14:35] <Alex_chieur> Je m'appelle Alex et je suis un chieur
[14:35] <heatmzzr> bernz, its grub
[14:36] <Scunizi> !fr | Alex_chieur
[14:36] <DasEi1>  kreino:look in /var/log/syslog  and also systemail has a folder
[14:36] <arturgam3r> chmod u+x 'path/to/skript.sh'
[14:36] <xaos11> kreino: you need to chmod a directory?
[14:36] <Alex_chieur> Je ne suis pas capable d'aller voir une meuf en face de moi
[14:36] <bernz> heatmzzr, okay, race time: we'll both do 'man grub' and first one to find location of "secret file" wins... GO!
[14:36] <genii-around> Alex_chieur:  /join #ubuntu-fr por francais
[14:36] <kreino> oh.. but i dont know.. what directory should i chmod? and what the code... 777 or 667
[14:37] <pornizzle> hi guys, Is there any differenz between the server & desktop edition concerning of USB
[14:37] <bernz> *ding*  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:37] <xaos11> kreino: whatever directory it says to chmod? 777 is dangerous
[14:37] <Alex_chieur> Thanks
[14:37] <Scunizi> pornizzle: not that I know of
[14:37] <kreino> so, should i chmod back to 667
[14:37] <kreino> so, should i chmod back to 667?
[14:37] <bernz> heatmzzr, so, browse over to that location ('/boot/grub') and look for 'menu.lst'
[14:38] <pornizzle> Scunizi, thx
[14:38] <xaos11> !who | kreino
[14:38] <shally87> how to load drivers from cd for ubuntu?
[14:38] <bernz> heatmzzr, open that file with text editor, and ... hm... try to figure it out ;-) i'll read a bit more...
[14:38] <xaos11> kreino: if that's what it says to do, yes
[14:38] <Scunizi> shally87: what drivers?
[14:38]  * bernz uses and recommends 'vi', the editor of champions :-D
[14:39] <kreino> alright... i will do that. thanks
[14:39] <Andy[1]> Hey all, I'm trying Ubuntu (and Linux) for the first time, am on the live version atm as I can't seem to get dual boot working, when I try and partition it says the partition fails. Is there settings I need to change to the XP installation to allow Ubuntu to modify the existing XP partition?
[14:39] <shally87> Scunizi: motherboard driver.. there is linux driver that it supply here in the cd and i just notice it. as now i am using the compatible driver provide by the ubuntu cd
[14:40] <shally87> i might think of installing the exact driver for my lan
[14:40] <chaosphere_> @andy[1] perhaps try to partition the disk before installing.
[14:40] <Scunizi> shally87: in most all cases if the ubuntu driver works you won't gain anything by using the one provided on cd by the mfgr.. in fact trying to install that driver might muck things up
[14:41] <xaos11> hey everyone it's 1234567890 day!!!
[14:41] <Andy[1]> chaosphere_:  With some 3rd party software?
[14:41] <judget_> I broke my automount feature anyone else manage to do that and fix it?
[14:42] <shally87> it's just that right now i got the vbox in my pc..then i can oonly use NAT but cannot host interface to give my Vbox different ip each.. so i think i want to install the lan driver
[14:42] <bernz> Andy[1], no, linux is generally sufficiently powerful to overwrite existing OS without help
[14:42] <Scunizi> Andy[1]: If you're going to dual boot. before repartitioning go to windows and run defrag from recovery or safe mode.. that means when booting push F8 to get the boot menu and choose safe mode.. the screen will look weird but then just run defrag..
[14:42] <chaosphere_> yes gparted for example
[14:43] <chaosphere_> when it's not installed, open a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install gparted'
[14:43] <shally87> the path to my lan in cd is /media/cdrom0/LinuxDrivers/Lan/Attansic/AtL2Linux_v0.2.40.0
[14:43] <Andy[1]> scunizi, and then ubuntu disc will be able to partiion ok? :)
[14:43] <Scunizi> shally87: not being able to give vbox a different ip has nothing to do with the lan driver
[14:43] <rubberducky_> nautilus doesn't show my mountable devices and network devices
[14:44] <oCean_> judget_: open "gconf-editor" and check apps > nautilus > preferences. There are 2 media_automount options should be ticked
[14:44] <rubberducky_> the mountable devices are in /dev
[14:44] <Scunizi> Andy[1]: maybe.. do yo have SATA drives?
[14:44] <Andy[1]> yeh i do
[14:44] <DeathNote> omg u sucks hard get your dick off of your head
[14:44] <DeathNote> SATA SUCKS!!
[14:44] <xaos11> wtf
[14:44] <FloodBot1> DeathNote: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:44] <xaos11> no it doesnt
[14:44] <DeathNote> STFU I DONT FLOOD
[14:44] <rubberducky_> they're both ticked
[14:44] <DeathNote> u monkey
[14:44] <xaos11> wow... gtfo
[14:45] <shally87> Scunizi: owh..ok..then i gotta sort out something later..thanks ya
[14:45] <Scunizi> !ops | Death
[14:45] <Scunizi> Deathnote
[14:45] <rubberducky_> another reason it might not work
[14:45] <Pici> Scunizi: too slow
[14:45] <rubberducky_> i have to mount all my drices manually
[14:45] <rubberducky_> and i can't see network
[14:45] <Scunizi> Pici: .. I'm trying :)
[14:45] <Pici> Scunizi: Thanks anyway :)
[14:45] <Andy[1]> scunizi, i'll go do that now, thanks for help
[14:45] <Scunizi> Pici: I have messages off
[14:46] <Scunizi> Andy[1]: gparted is installed on the live cd..
[14:46]  * jimcooncat loves it when ops go BAM!
[14:46] <rubberducky_> and i can't see network
[14:46] <judget_> mwdia_automount is checked and media_autorun_never is checked
[14:47] <_niko> hey guys, quick sanity check: sudo passwd *should* change my password right?
[14:47] <rubberducky_> autorun_never is unchecked
[14:47] <letalis> d as this laptops bell is that was beginnign to suck ass
[14:47] <oCean_> judget_: think that the media_automount should be sufficient.
[14:47] <letalis> as loud as
[14:48] <rubberducky_> i j ust need it to show, mounting isn't really nescecary
[14:48] <rubberducky_> when i open 'computer' in nautilus
[14:48] <rubberducky_> is see: cdrom0 and Filesystem
[14:48] <Myrtti> _niko: no, it shouldn't really
[14:48] <rubberducky_> but when i insert an SD card
[14:48] <rubberducky_> it doesn't show
[14:48] <rubberducky_> i does however on a livecd
[14:48] <Myrtti> _niko: and you shouldn't try to change your password with that command
[14:48] <Myrtti> _niko: use just 'passwd'
[14:48] <_niko> Myrtti: oh that explains it then,
[14:49] <sipior> _niko: that command would set the root password
[14:49] <_niko> oh
[14:49] <_niko> OH
[14:49] <_niko> of course -_-
[14:49] <Myrtti> _niko: did you try that already?
[14:49] <_niko> Thanks guys, im having a dummb day today
[14:49] <_niko> Myrtti: I did =/
[14:50] <Myrtti> _niko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Re-disabling%20your%20root%20account
[14:50] <Myrtti> _niko: might work, might not, but try anyway
[14:50] <zleap> what is the command thing to invoke html tidy
[14:50] <judget_> media automount is checked media automount never unchecked and media autorun never unchecked
[14:50] <jerndoe> hi, anybody know what the equivalent for gnome-session is in xubuntu?
[14:50] <rubberducky_> yep
[14:51] <_niko> Myrtti:Thanks, wont be doing that again anytime soon xD
[14:51] <judget_> do i have to resart for this toi take effect?
[14:51] <Myrtti> jerndoe: have you asked in #xubuntu ;-)
[14:51] <rubberducky_> jus tdefault settings
[14:51] <rubberducky_> it's really annoying
[14:51] <jerndoe> myrtti: there's not much activity in #xubuntu right now...
[14:51] <xXChippoXx> hello there
[14:51] <Scunizi> jerndoe: xfce4
[14:52] <jerndoe> thx.. i'll try that...
[14:52] <Myrtti> jerndoe: then go and make a whozzah ;-)
[14:52] <rubberducky_> ???
[14:52] <jerndoe> :-)
[14:52] <xXChippoXx> i have problems with the wincfg GUI , i cant see any text in it
[14:52] <Scunizi> jerndoe: or are you trying to stop the desktop?
[14:52] <judget_> I had tried building a new GTK+ the other night Im wondering if i broke the automount by doing that
[14:52] <jerndoe> scunizi: no actually start through ssh
[14:53] <xXChippoXx> have same problems with appications run from wine to , no text showing up in buttons etc
[14:53] <elimin8> does anyone know how to create a gnome terminal profile in Terminal 0.2.8?
[14:53] <Scunizi> jerndoe: ah.. ssh -X <server@server>  the the name of a program.. unless you're getting a full x from the other machine
[14:53] <jerndoe> scunizi: I read sometwhere that you could get the gnome GUI through shh with gnome-session but are connecting to a xubuntu
[14:54] <jerndoe> scunizi: i want to get the full x from an xubuntu
[14:54] <letalis> i know that theres a dpkg omand that will let you reconfigure the console font but i have forgotten what it was. anyone know right off hand?
[14:55] <letalis> commend
[14:55] <letalis> *command good lord.
[14:55] <Scunizi> jerndoe: yes.. that can also be a little different.. basically an ssh tunnel and then running VNC to get the full desktop to you.. there's another way I was reading about yesterday which invloves nesting X's but it's more difficult
[14:55] <jerndoe> scunizy: ok....
[14:56] <Scunizi> jerndoe: I think the vnc through ssh is what you're looking for.. vnc is built in
[14:56] <jerndoe> scunizi: is the server also integrated?
[14:56] <rubberducky_> what might be the problem that my devices arn't showing, only filesystem and cdrom0?
[14:56] <genii-around> udev
[14:56] <arturgam3r> rubberducky_, perhaps filesystem
[14:57] <rubberducky_> ?
[14:57] <arturgam3r> try sudo apt-get install udftools
[14:57] <Doonz> hey any torrentflux gurus here?
[14:57] <Scunizi> jerndoe: on the gnome desktop under System>Preferences>Remote Desktop you can set it up.. not sure if the xubuntu desktop is the host
[14:57] <xXChippoXx> nobody knows why wine GGUI is broken like this ?
[14:57] <rubberducky_> doing it now, but shoudln't it work by default?
[14:58] <genii-around> xXChippoXx: They might know more about wine in the official wine channel.   #winehq
[14:58] <jerndoe> scunizi: thx, i'll try
[14:58] <rubberducky_> installed it, still doesn't work...
[14:58] <arturgam3r> rubberducky_, as far as i know it is normally not installed
[14:58] <heatmzzr> what is the command to delete items in terminal
[14:58] <oCean_> rubberducky_: when talking to a specific person, please specify nick at start of line.
[14:58] <tuna> hi. how can I tell what my disks look like to grub? As in, which partition maps as hd(0,1)
[14:58] <rubberducky_> ok
[14:58] <rubberducky_> arturgam3r, when i boot livecd ubuntu and i insert an SD card it shows in computer locations
[14:58] <Scunizi> rubberducky_: are you looking in /media?
[14:59] <judget_> oCean_ any other ideas?
[14:59] <shally87> how to cd? change directory
[14:59] <shally87> !cd
[14:59] <rubberducky_> Scunizi, yes, only cdrom there
[14:59] <shally87> cd documents$ or..?
[14:59] <oCean_> judget_: sorry, not ideas atm. Rebuilding GTK might have damaged this or that. I really don't know.
[15:00] <riegersn> im getting an error when trying to use gtk2 themes.. "Gtk-WARNING **: libxcb-render-util.so.0: cannot open shared object file" Can anyone help me out ? (ubuntu cli + openbox)
[15:00] <judget_> how can I undo the GTK build?
[15:00] <oCean_> shally87: just "cd /path/to/directory"
[15:00] <arturgam3r> rubberducky_, ah sorry. i unterstood you not right. if you go to places there's is only showed CD?
[15:00] <oCean_> heatmzzr: you mean "rm" command ?
[15:00] <Scunizi> rubberducky_: devices aren't mounted there.. /dev is the original reference I think and /mnt is another location.. not really sure.. but /media isn't the right spot for devices
[15:00] <shally87> owh.. why this cd is different than windows
[15:00] <elimin8> Hello, im attempting to install an embeded terminal on my system, durring the install it says to make a gnome-terminal profile but when i go to file there is no option to create a new profile.
[15:00] <shally87> sad..
[15:00] <rubberducky_> artyrgam3r, yes
[15:01] <rubberducky_> artyrgam3r, and filesystem
[15:01] <shally87> yesterday got one teach me using $ but i forgot
[15:01] <jerndoe> scunizi: its acutually working.. by running xfce4-session through i got the whole desktop from the remote machine...
[15:01] <rubberducky_> arturgam3r, but sd cards show up in /dev so i can mount them manually
[15:02] <Scunizi> jerndoe: what was the line you used?
[15:02] <oCean_> shally87: the "$" is for use with variables. Like "cd $DOCS", however, the DOCS variable should be declared somewhere before you're able to use that.
[15:02] <jerndoe> scunizi: just ssh -X etc...
[15:02] <shally87> a-liew@Yumie:~$ "cd /documents"
[15:02] <shally87> bash: cd /documents: No such file or directory
[15:02] <elimin8> shally87, case is important
[15:02] <jerndoe> scunizi: after that i started xfcr4-session through ssh
[15:02] <scientes> wtf the perlapi package is completely mission from the package.ubuntu.com web site
[15:02] <elimin8> be sure its not Desktop instead of desktop
[15:02] <shally87> a-liew@Yumie:~$ cd /documents
[15:02] <shally87> bash: cd: /documents: No such file or directory
[15:03] <rubberducky_> arturgam3r, any other idea
[15:03] <kavity> shally87: cd ~/Documents
[15:03] <oCean_> shally87: when navigating to folder in your home dir use "cd ~/Documents" - mind you unix is case sensitive
[15:03] <Scunizi> jerndoe: AH .. that's the magick part.. did you start it with /etc/init.d/xfce4-session start ?
[15:03] <elimin8> shally87, try cd /Documents
[15:03] <kavity> oCean_: ;
[15:03] <kavity> )
[15:03] <arturgam3r> rubberducky_, mh normally it should be mounted autmatcly. is d-bus, udev running?
[15:03] <elimin8> sorry kavity you typed faster :)
[15:03] <kitche> elimin8: ubuntu does not have a document folder in / unless you made it of course
[15:03] <kavity> elimin8: You'd need the ~ first though.
[15:03] <shally87> a-liew@Yumie:~$ "cd /Documents"
[15:03] <shally87> bash: cd /Documents: No such file or directory
[15:03] <kreino> help, i cannot open anything.. all locked.. i think bcoz i did chmod 667
[15:04] <jerndoe> nope.. just xfce4-session
[15:04] <kavity> shally87: "cd ~/Documents"
[15:04] <shally87> a-liew@Yumie:~$ cd /Documents
[15:04] <shally87> bash: cd: /Documents: No such file or directory
[15:04] <shally87> a-liew@Yumie:~$ cd ~/Documents
[15:04] <shally87> a-liew@Yumie:~/Documents$
[15:04] <oCean_> kavity: I just can't keep up :/
[15:04] <FloodBot1> shally87: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:04] <rubberducky_> ?
[15:04] <elimin8> Ahh thanks yes
[15:04] <shally87> sorry FloodBot
[15:04] <kreino> what should i do... to run command chmod back n set 777
[15:04] <shockwave> hey can some one help me?
[15:04] <jerndoe> scunizi: just a newbie so don't know if theres any disadvantages...
[15:04] <shally87> so hard only know
[15:04] <kavity> shockwave: Maybe?
[15:04] <shally87> they dont want to simplified this?
[15:04] <shockwave> sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[15:04] <Scunizi> jerndoe: I'll have to try that.. right now I'm ssh'd into my server and running screen.. all cli stuff.. nice to use x once in a while
[15:04] <jerndoe> scunizi: fooling around in blind, just wanted to add my torrents to another server actually
[15:05] <shockwave> when im trying to use this command
[15:05] <shockwave> it says
[15:05] <kavity> shockwave: Simplify what?
[15:05] <kavity> Err, sorry...
[15:05] <kreino> help...
[15:05] <[SkG]> shally87, use cd Documents not cd /Documents
[15:05] <kavity> shally87: Simplify what?
[15:05] <shockwave> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:05] <Scunizi> jerndoe: it would be interesting to run screen before starting x ..
[15:05] <shockwave> how do i fix this?
[15:05] <kavity> shockwave: Type dpkg --configure -a ...?
[15:05] <shally87> simplify like in windows.. you can cd documents and no need cd ~/documents
[15:05] <Scunizi> shockwave: do what it says?
[15:05] <shally87> plus you can do ..
[15:05] <oCean_> shally87: If you like graphical file browser better... Go to Places menu > Home folder
[15:05] <jerndoe> scunizi: erh.. am not with you there, screen?
[15:05] <shally87> then back to the root
[15:05] <[SkG]> shally87, use cd Documents not cd /Documents <-----------------
[15:06] <kavity> shally87: You can use cd Documents, then use cd .. to go back to the root.
[15:06] <shally87> [SkG]:  tq
[15:06] <[SkG]> if you put /Documents is not your home folder
[15:06] <shockwave> now i have a nother problam
[15:06] <shockwave> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[15:06] <kreino> plz help, all locked. i cant run anything.. hwo to reset what i have done... i had doing chmod 667
[15:06] <shally87> kavity:  i've been cd Documents since just now and thats why i come and ask
[15:06] <[SkG]> is / -> Documents, not /home/user/ -> Documents
[15:06] <ct529> Ace|Work: bimberi: back .... I have switch to AHCI and no problem so far .... do you have a nice benchmark to measure hard disk performances?
[15:07] <shockwave> ?
[15:07] <Scunizi> jerndoe: screen is magick for the terminal.. when you ssh into a box you get a terminal prompt.. what if you wanted to do several things on that machine but only had one terminal prompt.. some would create another ssh session.. but it's not needed with screen .. it can create different "windows"
[15:07] <elimin8> shockwave, try sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[15:07] <kavity> shockwave: Put sudo infront of it.
[15:07] <shally87> i guess the case is important after all
[15:07] <kavity> Beaten.
[15:07] <elimin8> Yay :D
[15:07] <shally87> need to be so careful
[15:07] <shockwave> ok
[15:07] <kavity> shally87: Case is very important. Documents is a different tdirectory then documents
[15:07] <heatmzzr> what is the command to delete folders including all files in it?
[15:07] <kavity> Careful?
[15:07] <shally87> ok..
[15:07] <quibbler> shockwave:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:07] <kavity> heatmzzr: rm-rf
[15:07] <oCean_> shally87: at http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download2.html there is a pocketguide you can download for free. See chapter 5 for a nice intro on 'hands-on on the commandline"
[15:07] <shally87> thanks all..
[15:07] <kavity> heatmzzr: rm -rf.
[15:08] <shockwave> thanks alot it works
[15:08] <Scunizi> jerndoe: brb.. I'm going to "disconnect" from screen and reconnect in a different way so I can try running X
[15:08] <shockwave> :D
[15:08] <shally87> ok.. thanks..
[15:08] <shally87> need more readings..,
[15:08] <kreino> Myrtti, help me
[15:08] <kavity> shally87: man pages are your friend,.
[15:08] <Phine> does anyone know how to use scrot from a remote machine.
[15:08] <elimin8> actually im reading a very good ubuntu book
[15:08] <Phine> I want to ssh into my home box and take a screen shot of the current desktop
[15:08] <elimin8> it might help let me see if i can find it
[15:08] <kavity> I've got the linux bible.
[15:09] <kavity> And I think I may stll have some book about ubuntu too.
[15:09] <Phine> anyone?
[15:09] <abeeky> hi everybody,how can i create birgde  on ubuntu with my wiress card?
[15:09] <kavity> Phine: Hrmm...
[15:09] <kavity> Phine: That'd be rather difficult.
[15:09] <shally87>   # ./install.sh
[15:09] <shally87> this one is not for ubuntu??
[15:09] <Phine> why kavity
[15:09] <elimin8> shally87,  this guide explains alot about ubuntu http://lifehacker.com/5139752/ubuntu-pocket-guide-available-as-a-free-download
[15:09] <Phine> I just want to shot the current desktop
[15:09] <jerndoe> scunizi: thats handy, I actually needed that earlier today.... is it a command og program
[15:09] <Phine> anyway I can
[15:09] <Scunizi> jerndoe: k.. I'm back.. screen lets you disconnect from a computer and reconnect later with all your stuff still running and accessable.
[15:10] <kavity> Phine: You could try finding a console screenshot program for X, and ssh and run it, but I don't think that'd work for you either.
[15:10] <heatmzzr> is there a command to delete all folders in a location?
[15:10] <Phine> hmm
[15:10] <Scunizi> jerndoe: looks like I didn't start this ssh session with the -X option.
[15:11] <kavity> heatmzzr: rm -rf foldername/
[15:11] <kavity> Just don't do rm -rf / ;)
[15:11] <kjell> sigh, please comment it before writing that command.
[15:12] <kavity> ?
[15:12] <oCean_> !danger
[15:12] <quibbler> kavity: don't even joke about that
[15:12] <jimcooncat> Phine check out vncsnapshot
[15:12] <genii-around> kavity: What kjell just remarked. There are ppl who will just test whatever commands others write in this channel, sometimes with disastrous results
[15:12] <Scunizi> jerndoe: I've just started playing with ssh & screen.. so I have irssi running on the server for irc access from any machine in the housee and mutt for imap access to my gmail account all via cli and ssh and screen
[15:12] <kavity> One would have to be pretty stupid to run it a second after I just explianed how it deletes all the folders...
[15:13] <kavity> :\
[15:13] <kitche> quibbler: I see nothing that kavity did wrong since he said don't run that command
[15:13] <heatmzzr> yeah, im wiping out 115 gb of crap lol
[15:13] <kavity> I guess some people just have to learn the hard way.
[15:13] <kjell> kavity: well, printing the logs in some ways sometimes makes the terminal to run the commands if not commented before with a #.
[15:13] <jerndoe> scunizi: is screen a command or program?
[15:13] <Scunizi> jerndoe: program..
[15:13] <DIFH-ice1oot> jerndoe: both :)
[15:14] <kitche> kjell: if the logs run commands then your looking at the logs incorrectly then
[15:14] <jerndoe> scunizi: got a link to to a guide, I'm curious
[15:14] <lascar> I'm getting the "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers" error in amarok.  How do I restart the sound server?
[15:14] <jimcooncat> screen -r is a command that attaches to a running screen program :-)
[15:14] <NOKIA^83g^> Ciao amici di #ubuntu
[15:14] <kavity> kjell: The only way that would happen is if you concatenated the file one line at a time, and put an exec in front of it or something.
[15:14] <Scunizi> jerndoe: http://www.linuxdynasty.org/screen-howto-part-1.html  Here's another.. it's a very popular program
[15:14] <racerx> when creating a folder with nautilus, it used to put me inside the folder after creation. How can I get this functionality back?
[15:15] <bernz> jimcooncat, even more to the point, it RE-attaches (and you can specify WHICH terminal to re-attach to ;-)
[15:15] <kavity> racerx: Check the options.
[15:15]  * jimcooncat thanks bernz for the clarification
[15:15] <bernz> jimcooncat, it's for the log; always for the log ;-D
[15:15] <godowner> Anyone here can help me installing "yum"?
[15:16] <racerx> kavity: I have looked at the preferences but doesn't seem to tell me anything relating to this?
[15:16] <Scunizi> jimcooncat: if you don't detach from screen correctly it could remain running so you would have to reconnect with screen -d -r <session>
[15:16] <kavity> racerx: Sorry, I've only ever used nautilus once porbably.
[15:17] <dhruvasagar> Hey everyone
[15:17] <dhruvasagar> I have a query
[15:17] <erUSUL> godowner: what do you need yum for???
[15:17] <dhruvasagar> I recently installed Ubuntu 8.10
[15:17] <scrwvwls> cool
[15:17] <kjell> Please dont use enter as punctation dhruvasagar.
[15:17] <godowner> I need yum for LxAdmin...
[15:17] <lascar> kjell: :-D
[15:17] <progre55> hey everybody!
[15:17] <godowner> Or can i somehow install Lxadmin without it?
[15:17] <dhruvasagar> earlier I was on 32 bit, now I am on 64 bit
[15:17] <scrwvwls> hey!!
[15:18] <bernz> Scunizi, cool, that's good to be aware of also :-)
[15:18] <dhruvasagar> my Add/Remove Programs section is completely empty....
[15:18] <erUSUL> godowner: in ubuntu like in debian we use apt not yum
[15:18] <scrwvwls> i think you got a virus
[15:18] <jimcooncat> godowner: maybe get the source and use checkinstall
[15:18] <dhruvasagar> Synaptic is working great
[15:18] <racerx> when creating a folder with nautilus, it used to put me inside the folder after creation. How can I get this functionality back? I have looked at the preferences and nothing is there.
[15:18] <kavity> erUSUL: One can use yum without any problems.
[15:18] <progre55> I have this sony vaio vgn-fw21e with ubuntu 8.10, but I cant get the integrated microphone work. can anybody please help me out?
[15:18] <top_> Привет ВсеМ!!!
[15:19] <dhruvasagar> anyone?
[15:19] <quibbler> !ru
[15:19] <lascar> I'm getting the "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers" error in amarok.  How do I restart the sound server?
[15:19] <top_> !ru
[15:19] <Scunizi> bernz: ok.. here's one of my favorites in screen ^aS  then ^a TAB to switch between them.. try it.. and you'll see what "them" is.. just remember that ^aS is with a capital S.. if you use a small s then you change the flow control
[15:20] <HsodiQ> can anyone recomend a good Traffic(packet) shaping app/script/something related to Qos on a more advanced level?
[15:20] <quibbler> top_: /join #ubuntu-ru
[15:21] <genii-around> top_: EG:  /join #ubbuntu-ru
[15:21] <genii-around> top_: EG:  /join #ubuntu-ru
[15:21] <FloodBot1> genii-around: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <genii-around> darn typos
[15:21] <racerx> when creating a folder with nautilus, it used to put me inside the folder after creation. How can I get this functionality back?
[15:21] <andy__> hello
[15:21] <progre55> hey everyone, I have this sony vaio vgn-fw21e with ubuntu 8.10, but I cant get the integrated microphone work. please, can anybody please help me out here?
[15:21] <tuna> hi. I just installed win7 alongside ubuntu, and now grub fails with error 17. I use uuid to recognise the disk in menu.lst, which makes this strange
[15:21] <jerndoe> scunizi:thanks looks interesting, I'll look into it
[15:22] <Scunizi> jerndoe: np. :)
[15:22] <katana__> excuse me, i want change my screen deph to 16 bits please
[15:22] <bernz> Scunizi, this is neato, but... what am i looking at? the lower part doesn't seem responsive to any obvious/likely key bindings *scratching head*
[15:22] <andy__> i have a problem with my sata hd..im using windows but i plan to install ubuntu on my slave drive..the only problem is that i cant seem to see it
[15:22] <godowner> k... any suggestions for cpanel for ubuntu server that works well? (been using webmin but need something bit more advanced)
[15:23] <Scunizi> jerndoe: took me a while to wrap my head around the concept.. really it was just "using" it that showed me how easy it really is.
[15:23] <progre55> !ru
[15:23] <andy__> i can see C: but not the other partition and certainly not the slave drive either
[15:23] <katana__> excuse me, i want change my screen deph to 16 bits please
[15:23] <Scunizi> bernz: do a ^a TAB so you're in the lower half and then ^a-c to get a bash prompt
[15:23] <Scunizi> bernz: or ^a <number of window to attach>
[15:24] <bernz> Scunizi, ooooooh, that screen's "void" window, waiting for screen-commands, like "create"...!  :-)  sweet
[15:24] <bernz> that -> that's
[15:24] <Scunizi> andy__: can you see either driver with the live cd?
[15:24] <katana__> excuse me, i want change my screen deph to 16 bits please
[15:24] <katana__> excuse me, i want change my screen deph to 16 bits please
[15:24] <katana__> excuse me, i want change my screen deph to 16 bits please
[15:24] <katana__> excuse me, i want change my screen deph to 16 bits please
[15:24] <katana__> excuse me, i want change my screen deph to 16 bits please
[15:24] <katana__> excuse me, i want change my screen deph to 16 bits please
[15:25] <FloodBot1> katana__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25]  * Scunizi see's the light come on for bernz 
[15:25] <oCean_> !patience | katana__
[15:25] <AU-3007> flooder
[15:25] <bernz> Scunizi, this is a great trick for being able to read man pages while piecing together a complicated one-liner :-D thanks
[15:25] <Scunizi> bernz: you can split again if you want as well :)
[15:25] <andy__> well yes,but i plan to install ubuntu after on the slave drive..i cant seem to see it, i tried disk management for xp
[15:25] <andy__> but i cant format it
[15:25] <abeeky> exit
[15:26] <Tniffoc> How would I uninstall FFox Beta on Fiesty?
[15:26] <amikrop> Why ipod-convenience has amarok and gtkpod as dependancies? I really think it shouldn't.
[15:26] <bernz> Scunizi, 'screen' is genius :-)
[15:26] <Scunizi> bernz: oh yea.. or looking at someone's instructions on irc and doing them in the bottom half.
[15:26] <Cpudan80> Tniffoc: Fiesty ?
[15:26] <sarixe> hi, does anyone know of a way to move an ntfs partition to the left without having it copy the whole thing over?
[15:26] <Tniffoc> Cpudan80: Fiesty Ferron
[15:26] <Cpudan80> Tniffoc: It was Fiesty Fawn
[15:26] <Tniffoc> oh
[15:26] <Tniffoc> w/e
[15:27] <Cpudan80> Tniffoc: At any rate, you have to manually remove your mozilla profiles and all the related bins/libs
[15:27] <Cpudan80> It's not gonna be an easy task
[15:27] <bernz> Scunizi, yes, great idea: especially useful for those doing text-based ubuntu-server stuff
[15:27] <Cpudan80> Unless you maybe have the original makefile
[15:27] <Cpudan80> Sometimes they have make uninstall
[15:27] <Tniffoc> Cpudan80: I need eclipse to work. That's why I need to uninstall
[15:27] <Scunizi> bernz: that's where I'm at right now.. playing :)
[15:27] <Cpudan80> What does firefox have to do with eclipse?
[15:28] <Cpudan80> Tniffoc: You should really upgrade your OS to Hardy Heron or Interpid Ibex
[15:28] <syadow> help, i cant load into my system... bcoz before this i played with chmod
[15:28] <Tniffoc> Cpudan80: There's an error where you have to uninstall all beta versions of firefox to get eclipse to work. It's in the eclipse faq.
[15:28] <bernz> Scunizi, excellent, i wish i had more time for that (working from home today, unexpectedly)
[15:28] <Cpudan80> syadow: boot to the root prompt (recovery mode) and undo what you did
[15:28] <Cpudan80> syadow: what exactly did you chmod?
[15:28] <Scunizi> bernz: that's where I'm at.. but then I work out of my house.
[15:29] <syadow> how to undo it?
[15:29] <bernz> Scunizi, awesome, for me it's the exception right now, but i want to go independent-biz route eventually ("freedom!")
[15:29] <syadow> Cpudan80, how 2 do that?
[15:29] <bernz> (sorry, we're going off-topic)
[15:29] <Pici> syadow: What command did you do?
[15:30] <Cpudan80> syadow: you have to know what you did ...
[15:30] <Cpudan80> syadow: what command did you run?
[15:30] <Scunizi> andy__: I never saw your answer.. use nicks in your reponses. can you see either driver with the live cd?
[15:30] <syadow> Pici, wait i ask my friends
[15:30] <syadow> #!bin/bash
[15:30] <syadow> username=$(whoami)
[15:31] <syadow> sudo chmod 667 ./$@
[15:32] <Xx0mega24xX> does anyone here have experience getting the ar242x wireless card working with 8.10?
[15:32] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: yes
[15:33] <mo_bledhoz> helo
[15:33] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: what hve you tried to get it working
[15:33] <mo_bledhoz> help me
[15:33] <Xx0mega24xX> how did you go about it, ive got it so i can connect to anything but wep by using ath5k and linux-backports-intrepid
[15:33] <Scunizi> !ask | mo_bledhoz
[15:33] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: i just installed the backports like you did.. i connect to wep just fine
[15:35] <dee25> how to change the resolution on ubuntu 8.10 i have intel 82865g chip
[15:35] <jiffe92> what does 'apache2: Depends: apache2-mpm-prefork (>= 2.2.8-1ubuntu0.3) but it is not going to be installed' mean?
[15:35] <jiffe92> the apache2-mpm-prefork package is available, I see it when I apt-cache search for it
[15:35] <kitche> jiffe92: exactly has the error message states
[15:35] <Xx0mega24xX> odd... did you have to blacklist anything?
[15:35] <dee25> my dell monitor is a E153fp
[15:36] <jiffe92> it says it is not going to be installed, but it is an available dependency, so why isn't it going to be installed?
[15:37] <itt> why do i get this error....the gnome session manager was unable to lock the file '/home/itt/,ICEauthority. ?
[15:37] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: blacklisting i don't think would be your issue... you should have two options for ahteros in hardware drivers, "Support for 5xxx series of atheros ..." which is i have enabled, and "Support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards" which I have disabled.
[15:37] <progre55> hey all, I use ubuntu 8.10. How to find out what graphics I use, either ATI or Intel?
[15:37] <progre55> lspci?
[15:37] <IndyGunFreak> progre55: thats thee asiest way
[15:37] <Scunizi> progre55: yes
[15:38] <Cpudan80> Pici: syadow ran a malicious bash script; sudo -k; chmod 667 ./$@
[15:38] <progre55> Scunizi, IndyGunFreak, is it the one?: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series
[15:38] <IndyGunFreak> progre55: most likely
[15:39] <progre55> IndyGunFreak, thanks man, appreciate! :)
[15:39] <Xx0mega24xX> I don't have anything in my hardware drivers, i am trying the hardware testing
[15:40] <bob___> Could anyone tell me why the system monitor shows a download fluctuating around .5KB/sec when I am not using my web connection?
[15:40] <Pici> syadow: What directory were you in when you ran that script?
[15:40] <bob___> #ubuntu Could anyone tell me why the system monitor shows a download fluctuating around .5KB/sec when I am not using my web connection?
[15:40] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: you have nothing in sys/admin/hardware drivers
[15:40] <syadow> Pici, home
[15:41] <Xx0mega24xX> nope it says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[15:41] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: are you using Jaunty?
[15:42] <Xx0mega24xX> What's jaunty?
[15:42] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: what version of Ubuntu are you using?..
[15:42] <Pici> syadow: Can you not boot at all, or just not login?
[15:42] <Xx0mega24xX> I do not think so,  I'm using easy-peasy 1.0 which is an offshoot of 8.10 with adams kernel
[15:43] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: dunno, ask in easy-peasy support
[15:43] <itt> why do i get this error....the gnome session manager was unable to lock the file '/home/itt/,ICEauthority. ?
[15:43] <Xx0mega24xX> k thanks for your help
[15:43] <syadow> pici i can boot.. but i cannot login...?
[15:44] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: but for what its worth, i just put normal ubuntu on my eee (when i had it, i have an AA1 now), and it worked fine..
[15:44] <bob___> say Could anyone tell me why the system monitor says i have a download rate fluctuating around .5KB/sec when I am not using my connection?
[15:44] <Xx0mega24xX> well if I cant get thiings working thats what I'm gonna end up doing,  I'm thinking of trying crunchbang,  looks interesting
[15:44] <mhall119> bob___: I think it's picking up Unix socket activity
[15:45] <IndyGunFreak> Xx0mega24xX: crunchbang is ok.. it just had some quirks i dind't care for.
[15:45] <mhall119> either that, or some service is pinging the internet, like pidgin or your mail client
[15:45] <bob___> say Thanks, so that is normal and cannot be avoided?
[15:45] <heatmzzr> will the grub bootloader automatically update as i have eliminated some of the distros on my machine
[15:45] <judget> Key tim thanks a bunch it works now
[15:45] <mhall119> bob___: if it's Unix sockets, it's normal and there is no reason you'd want to avoid it
[15:45] <ubuntu_> wenas, como pongo el msn?
[15:45] <ubuntu_> soy nuevo
[15:45] <Pici> !es | ubuntu_
[15:46] <syadow> Pici,  i can boot.. but i cannot login...?
[15:46] <Pici> syadow: You can either boot from a liveCD and change the permissions from there or reinstall.
[15:46] <ubuntu_> sorry guys
[15:46] <Pici> syadow: Or boot from recovery mode, that may work as well.
[15:46] <bob___> say oh there is :) I'd like to make vodafone sorry for selling a 1GB G3 mobile braodband package with no time limit on use by playing mud with MCCP...
[15:47] <syadow> Pici, how to repair in recovery mode?
[15:47] <bob___> say guess i'm frustrated on that one though, thanks for the answer
[15:48] <mhall119> syadow: I think recovery mode gets your root access to your system, so you can fix whatever is wrong
[15:48] <maxime_> i dual boot with vista (crap!) but not able to manage start-up manager without destroying my LILO parameters
[15:49] <syadow> mhall119, but i dont know how to fix that.. what command.. bcoz i m new in ubuntu?
[15:50] <mhall119> syadow: depends on what's wrong with it
[15:50] <mhall119> I wasn't here when you were explaining the problem, so you'll have to repeat yourself
[15:51] <syadow> mhall119, i run "sudo -k"
 then "chmod 667 ./$@"
[15:51] <Twois10> when recoding mp3 is not possible to recode to 24bit?
[15:51] <maxime_> lol text install ubuntu
[15:52] <Doonz> hey guys. when i do a list -l how do i make it list based on the date/time versus alphebetical
[15:52] <mhall119> syadow: why'd you do that?
[15:52] <dee25> how to change the resolution on ubuntu 8.10
[15:52] <dee25> i have a intel 82865G
[15:52] <Scunizi> !resolution | dee25
[15:53] <syadow> mhall119, my friend have read article to move nautilus script file...
[15:53] <mhall119> dee25: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[15:53] <dee25> YEA I DID IS ONLY 800X600
[15:54] <dee25> I WANT IT TO BE 1204X768
[15:54] <syadow> mhall119, then he try to follow the instrction
[15:54] <genii-around> 1204?
[15:54] <mhall119> syadow: I think he followed them wrong, 667 gives read/write to the owner and group, but read/write/execute to everyone
[15:55] <Scunizi> dee25: your system might have the 7xx intel driver instead of the 8xx driver loaded.. check System>Admin>synaptic and search for intel looking for the driver.. install the right one and uninstall the wrong one.
[15:55] <mhall119> syadow: boot into recovery mode and chmod 755 /home/$yourname
[15:55] <Scunizi> dee25: after that restart and it if that was the problem then it'll be fixed.
[15:56] <neebly> Hi there!
[15:56] <Cpudan80> dee25: you can use xrandr if the resolution is not detected, by 1024x768 is so common that it should be detected no sweat
[15:56] <dee25> thank imma try that now
[15:57] <pgehi> hey, can somebody tell me what library i need to the symbols `glXCreateContext` and the other GLX functions... what do I have to link to? i already link to x11
[15:57] <syadow> mhall119, after booting, before login, it shows the message like this "User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user nad have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users"
[15:57] <Scunizi> Cpudan80: intel is well supported.. when you have issues like her's it's usually because the wrong driver was loaded.... usually :)
[15:58] <Twois10> is 24 kbps a acceptable bits to recode mp3s
[15:58] <Cpudan80> right
[15:58] <mhall119> syadow: chmod 755 /home/$youruser will fix part of that
[15:58] <ikonia> Twois10: your choice, it's a user preference
[15:58] <SlimeyPete> Twois10: 24? Not for music
[15:58] <mhall119> chmod 644 /home/$youruser/.dmrc will fix the other
[15:58] <ikonia> Twois10: seems very low
[15:58] <syadow> mhall119, im trying...
[15:58] <SlimeyPete> Music will sound terrible at 24kbps; voice will be okay-ish but still sound pretty bad
[15:59] <mhall119> syadow: you may need to fix permissions on other files under the home directory to get things working right
[15:59] <Twois10> ikonia SlimeyPete am asking because 24 is not 2^n  and yes its voice only
[15:59] <Twois10> its a book
[15:59] <ikonia> Twois10: your call
[15:59] <Scunizi> Twois10: 56 mono
[15:59] <Twois10> am trying to save space
[15:59] <dee25> i see xserver xorg i740 driver
[15:59] <dee25> but is already marked as installed
[15:59] <pgehi> how can I solve `undefined reference to symbol ``glXCreateContext`` ` ?
[16:00] <ikonia> pgehi: what have you done to get that ?
[16:00] <ikonia> pgehi: have you changed any of the package versions ?
[16:00] <Scunizi> dee25: installed? that would be the wrong one.. you need the i8xx I believe
[16:00] <Twois10>  the book and chapters are currently 64bits and 1.985Gb but the cd is only 700 mb
[16:00] <pgehi> ikonia: no, im developing an opengl application using gcc
[16:00] <pgehi> ikonia: i just dont know what library i have to link against
[16:00] <dee25> yeaa they were installed as marked
[16:00] <dee25> and nuttin same
[16:00] <dee25> 800x600
[16:00] <ikonia> pgehi: so your referencing compiled symbols that are incompatible with the function calls your making (bad explination)
[16:01] <ikonia> pgehi: I suggest you join the developers mail list for that
[16:01] <mhall119> pgehi: do you have the mesa dev packages?
[16:01] <pgehi> ikonia: do i need them? isnt mesa an emulation of opengl?
[16:01] <Twois10> recoding the book to 16kbps reduce the size to 470 so after my calculation 24 bits come to about 760+
[16:01] <Twois10> 670+*
[16:01] <ikonia> pgehi: I don't know what your doing - so I can't comment
[16:02] <syadow> mhall119, thanks. it's successful... thnks so much... i learned something useful today
[16:02] <mhall119> pgehi: I think it provides software emulation if hardware implementation isn't available
[16:02] <Twois10> 670mb
[16:02] <mhall119> syadow: no problem
[16:02] <ikonia> mhall119: best description I've heard, kudso
[16:02] <ikonia> kudos
[16:02] <pgehi> ikonia: im developing an opengl application using Xlib, and for connecting opengl to Xlib i need glXCreateContext
[16:02] <mhall119> syadow: you might have some other bugs popup as a result of this, depending on what files had their permissions changed
[16:02] <ikonia> pgehi: that doesn't help
[16:02] <Twois10> oh, looks like its working
[16:02] <Scunizi> dee25: type less /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for the driver line.. does it say intel or something else?
[16:02] <syadow> mhall119, hehehh....
[16:03] <syadow> mhall119, after i done with chmod 777 and 644, result is nothing popup...
[16:03] <dee25> nah it says
[16:03] <ikonia> syadow: I don't advise you do that
[16:03] <dee25> "vesa"
[16:03] <ikonia> syadow: that will leave your box very open
[16:04] <mhall119> syadow: /home/$youruser should be 755, not 777
[16:04] <syadow> mhall119, how to close back?mean back to normal
[16:04] <mhall119> you mean out of recovery mode?
[16:04] <syadow> ops mistake typing
[16:05] <mhall119> pgehi: I think you need mesa
[16:06] <mhall119> as far as I know, mesa provides the OpenGL API under Linux
[16:06] <chazco> Hi.. does anyone know how to connect to a WPA-Ent, tkip, mschapv2 network? Using the network manager doesnt always connect properly
[16:06] <maxXMB> i like this chan its pretty friedly
[16:06] <maxXMB> friendly
[16:06] <chazco> Also, does anyone know how to prevent the "an application is still running" dialog at shutdown?
[16:06] <ikonia> chazco: if it doesn't connect very well, it's normally a driver issue
[16:06] <Scunizi> dee25: now.. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change to intel.. save and reboot
[16:06] <ikonia> chazco: shutdown the application it's complaining about
[16:07] <chazco> ikonia - Its an Intel 3945ABG, worked okay on older editions. As for the application i dont know which one it is, nothing is running other than gnome that i can see
[16:08] <dee25> hold up
[16:08] <ikonia> chazco: other versions use a different kernel - driver versions, so that's not really valid,
[16:08] <BlueLaguna> ~uuid
[16:08] <BlueLaguna> Hmm
[16:08] <BlueLaguna> How do you use the bot again?
[16:08] <Myrtti> !uuid
[16:08] <BlueLaguna> thank you
[16:08] <chazco> hmm, so is there any way to fix it in Intrepid then ikonia?
[16:08] <racerman> excuse me, there is an italian room for supporting linux people?
[16:08] <dee25> alright it open a window
[16:08] <dee25> but is empty
[16:08] <zonyzhao> |help
[16:08] <dee25> lol
[16:08] <ikonia> chazco: I didn't say it was broke - I said it's  normally a symptom
[16:09] <Scunizi> dee25: close it and try again. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. exactly like that.. you might have had a typo
[16:09] <chazco> Well... it does cause issues on 8.10 (only other issue i found with it is you cant disable wifi), as does the app still running issue. Other than that 8.10 works pretty well.
[16:10] <Scunizi> dee25: the "X" in X11 is capitalized
[16:10] <deus> evening :)
[16:10] <Cpudan80> chazco: re WPA2 encrypted
[16:10] <heatmzzr> will the grub bootloader automatically update as i have eliminated some of the distros on my machine
[16:10] <dee25> o alright my bad let me try again
[16:10] <Cpudan80> chazco: wpa-supplicant and network manager are broken in Intrepid, why the devels havent pushed out the newer versions ...
[16:11] <Cpudan80> chazco: Let me get you the fix
[16:11] <ikonia> Cpudan80: where did you get that info ?
[16:11] <ikonia> Cpudan80: I'd appriciate a look at that too, cool
[16:11] <chazco> Cpudan80 - It WPA not WPA2. WPA2 on my home network works fine
[16:11] <deus> I'm having a bit of trouble with the new kde 4.2. When I click on the start menu, right click on an application and select "add to desktop", nothing happens. How is this possible?
[16:11] <Cpudan80> chazco: you asked about MSCHAPv right?
[16:11] <chazco> Anyone know how to prevent the "an application is still running" issue in 8.10?
[16:12] <mick02> Has anyone ever connected Evolution to a Lotus Notes Global address book? If so can anyone point me in the right direction to achieve this. Thanks.
[16:12] <chazco> Cpudan80 - Yep, WPA enterprise with mschapv2
[16:12] <Cpudan80> chazco: I believe it is called WPA2 enterprise ... anyway
[16:12] <Cpudan80> chazco: ikonia https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/272185
[16:12] <Cpudan80> chazco: ikonia Search "Bracey" for the fix
[16:12] <mhall119> mick02: is that even theoretically possible?
[16:12] <dee25> ok went through
[16:12] <chazco> Cpudan80 - Okay, will look into and find out. Thanks
[16:12] <dee25> i changed the vesa into intel
[16:12] <cumulus007> hey guys, I can't watch South Park anymore with Firefox
[16:13] <cumulus007> there's just a grey panel
[16:13] <cumulus007> http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/166702
[16:13] <mhall119> dee25: vesa would explain why you only had 800x600
[16:13] <mick02> mhallll9 - I'm not sure that's why I'm askin
[16:13] <dee25> and saved it now reboot?
[16:13] <mhall119> mick02: I don't think it is
[16:13] <mhall119> at least not on any version of Lotus I've ever had the misfortune of using
[16:13] <Scunizi> dee25: yes.. or you can try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[16:13] <jiffe92> alright, I'm using `apt-ftparchive generate` to generate the necessary information for a repository, and for the most part it works, but it seems to miss various .deb files for some reason, I don't see any errors or a way to increase verbosity
[16:13] <Cpudan80> chazco: that fix might be slightly out of date, apparently there might be some new dependencies to resolve -- just use your better judgement
[16:13] <dee25> alright brb let me restart
[16:13] <mick02> mhall119 - I'm stuck with exporting to a CSV (or similar) then importing it I suppose
[16:14] <asta> mkei, I need some help her :S
[16:14] <mhall119> mick02: most likely
[16:14] <asta> what does error 18 mean?
[16:14] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys, anyone get sound in firefox with the x64 adobe flash plugin?
[16:15] <Khepr> can GCC on ubuntu produce an EXE ?
[16:15] <Cpudan80> an exe is just a compiled thing
[16:15] <mick02> mhall119 - a bit of a pain in the arse so, I was hoping to have an up-to-date address book that was synced with the server. Not to worry, I'll spend anouther while looking about online and see if it can be done
[16:15] <Cpudan80> just slap a .exe extension on it
[16:15] <carpii> yes but its a Portable Executable, which differs from linux ELF format
[16:15] <Cpudan80> gcc ... -o myexe.exe
[16:15] <JEEBcz> And mingw32 is for cross-compilation :3
[16:15] <coldboot_> I configured nautilus to use gqview for jpegs, and it works when I open a jpeg on my hard drive. But when I open a jpeg on a windows share, the stupid thing uses Eye of Gnome again. Why is that?
[16:15] <Cpudan80> Well yeah i mean you need to compile it properly for the system you'll run it on
[16:16] <Cpudan80> but in principle yes, it can do it
[16:16] <carpii> i think the short answer for him is, no :p
[16:16] <carpii> depends what he wants to do with it i guess
[16:16] <Cpudan80> Why?
[16:16] <Cpudan80> gcc will compile win32 stuff
[16:16] <thomc> Hi I've got my computer connected to the internet via ethernet. I've got a wireless usb dongle that I'd like to use to share the internet connection wirelessly with my laptop. Is this possible? Can I achieve this with firestarter?
[16:16] <carpii> hmm, yeah thats true
[16:16] <JEEBcz> he just needs some stuff set and probably the right flags for some apps
[16:16] <Scunizi> !ics | thomc
[16:16] <JEEBcz> and he might get going with cross-compilation
[16:17] <deus> I'm having a bit of trouble with the new kde 4.2. When I click on the start menu, right click on an application and select "add to desktop", nothing happens. How is this possible?
[16:17] <quibbler> ubuntu 8.04..my system sounds are no longer working (last couple of days)...all other sounds are fine....everything set to alsa....can someone shed some light as to why this has happened?
[16:17]  * JEEBcz got x264 to build on ubuntu/mingw32 for win32 some time ago, but gave up on editing the makefiles in order to make fprofile use "wine x264.exe" instead of just x264 >_>
[16:19] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys, anyone get sound in firefox with the x64 adobe flash plugin?
[16:19] <ikonia> ForzaPalermo: I have
[16:19] <dee25> hello
[16:19] <Khepr> The question is, can the gcc on linux produce a PE EXE file or not
[16:19] <ikonia> ForzaPalermo: (not at his moment)
[16:19] <ikonia> Khepr: what ?
[16:19] <dee25> i try but now it said
[16:19] <Myrtti> ForzaPalermo: check no other app uses your sound devices
[16:19] <dee25> cannot display this video mode
[16:20] <deus> in ubuntu, how can you switch the audio output device, for example between box and headset?
[16:20] <cara> Hi all, I have doubt
[16:20] <cara> lol j/k
[16:21] <Scunizi> dee25: restart into recovery mode and there will be an option to "fix video or resolution".. try that
[16:21] <quibbler> cara: we all doubt from time to time
[16:21] <dee25> alright how u get into recovery mode
[16:21] <dee25> ?
[16:22] <ikonia> dee25: reboot and from the boot menu select recovery mode
[16:22] <deus> how can you tell ubuntu to use your headset instead of your boxes and visa versa?
[16:22] <cara> I'm having an issue though.   I tried to compile my own kernel the ubuntu way and when I install the package created it doesn't update the menu.list or install the kernel in the linux-image built.  Is there something faulty with my command? Here the's command I used: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-default kernel-image kernel-header
[16:22] <Scunizi> dee25: on boot when you get to the grub menu it's the second option. if you don't see the menu then you'll be presented a time period to hit ESC to get the menu.
[16:23] <dee25> i cant into the recovery mode i have a dell dimension 3000
[16:23] <ikonia> dee25: you an
[16:23] <dee25> oh i have is f2 and f12
[16:23] <ikonia> dee25: the hardware model doesn't make the grub boot menu dissapear
[16:23] <ikonia> dee25: reboot, and where you would normally select ubuntu - select ubuntu recovery mode
[16:23] <dee25> ohhhh to the kernel section
[16:23] <dee25> lol im sorry
[16:24] <Scunizi> dee25: no.. you're thinking windows.. when you start the machine GRUB is the boot menu for ubuntu.. it's there that you'll fiind the recovery mode.. it's text based
[16:24] <dee25> yes i see it
[16:24] <dee25> now
[16:24] <dee25> ubuntu 8.10 kernel 2.6.27.11 gerenic recovery mode
[16:25] <cara> Hello?
[16:25] <icekold> Hi
[16:25] <gramirez_> Hi everybody
[16:26] <dee25> ok im in the recovery menu
[16:26] <gramirez_> Im sorry for the question but Im new on ubuntu
[16:26] <dee25> resume,clean,dpkg,fsck,root,xfix
[16:26] <Scunizi> dee25: xfix
[16:26] <gramirez_> how can I get 3ddesktop on my ubuntu 8.10 ?
[16:26] <ikonia> gramirez_: compiz-fusion is already installed for you, just configure it
[16:27] <ikonia> !ccsm > gramirez_
[16:27] <odeland> I have a question regarding ubuntu server, I'd like to know if it's possible to make it work without keyboard/mouse/screen plugged in? is that possible once the initial install is done?
[16:27] <gramirez_> txs ikonia
[16:27] <dee25> ok done that it showed black screened white lettering and now went back to the menu
[16:27] <ikonia> odeland: sure
[16:27] <Pici> odeland: Sure.
[16:27] <gramirez_> i cant found how to do it
[16:27] <Scunizi> odeland: yep.. talking to you on one now.. ssh'd into it
[16:27] <ikonia> odeland: just unplug them
[16:27] <ikonia> odeland: most motherboards will allow it
[16:27] <Pici> odeland: As long as your BIOS allows you to boot without a keyboard connected you're good
[16:28] <odeland> ok, thanks, so I need to be careful with the motherboard I pick
[16:28] <ikonia> odeland: most modern ones are fine
[16:28] <ikonia> odeland: you can do this with the desktop install too (which makes an excellent home server)
[16:28] <ubuntu_> I need help. I deleted a hdd and now i get error 15 from grub, how do i restore grub???
[16:28] <ikonia> !grub > ubuntu_
[16:29] <odeland> so if I instal desktop, I can use remote desktop to see the screen?
[16:29] <ikonia> odeland: remote desktop, ssh, vnc etc etc, lots of options
[16:29] <odeland> right
[16:30] <odeland> sounds good guys, thanks
[16:30] <mhall119> Heck, if you have a good network, you can run X11 off of it
[16:31] <mhall119> all of Gnome, running on a server, displayed on your workstation
[16:31] <mhall119> but I wouldn't recommend it
[16:31] <odeland> why not?
[16:31] <odeland> bandwidth expansive?
[16:32] <mhall119> X protocol isn't very efficient
[16:32] <mhall119> VNC will be faster
[16:33] <mhall119> still, it's kind of cool that you can do that
[16:34] <mhall119> you can also run individual programs on the server, while displaying them on your local computer, by tunneling X over ssh
[16:35] <deus> any good programming environments for linux?
[16:35] <odeland> Eclipse?
[16:35] <rupl> lang?
[16:35] <deus> odeland: thnx I was looking for that name :)
[16:35] <mhall119> odeland: I think so
[16:35] <Cpudan80> Komodo Edit for the scripting languages
[16:35] <deus> both java, C, C++ etc
[16:36] <Cpudan80> Eclipse for Java, MonoDevelop for C flavors
[16:36] <Cpudan80> or vim for everything ;-)
[16:36] <quibbler> ubuntu 8.04..my system sounds are no longer working (last couple of days)...all other sounds are fine....everything set to alsa....can someone shed some light as to why this has happened?
[16:36] <Cruster> mhall119: if I have ssh server running on a linux machine, can I access it's X11 with ssh -X ip from another machine?
[16:36] <lvr> how do i make a sort in cli so that folders are sorted in reversed alphabetical order and their contents in alphabetical order?
[16:37] <mhall119> Cruster: yes, though -Y is prefered to -X
[16:37] <SingAlong> Hi all
[16:38] <SingAlong> I'm running ubuntu 8.04 and its detecting my wired internet connection but it isnt detecting any wireless networks even though my wifi modem is on.
[16:38] <tripps> what's the best/easiest way to switch my intrepid laptop to xubuntu running xfce while maintaining the existing install? I want to see how a lighter weight desktop helps performance.
[16:38] <Cruster> mhall119: so I get my   whole desktop or I just can run programms that require X11?
[16:38] <ikonia> Cruster: is this ubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:38] <mhall119> tripps: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <Cruster> ikonia: yes
[16:38] <tripps> mhall119, cool thanks!
[16:38] <ikonia> Cruster: please join #ubuntu+1 and discuss
[16:39] <mhall119> Cruster: any windowed program on Ubuntu uses X11, and any X11 program can be displayed on a different computer than the one it's running on
[16:39] <ikonia> Cruster: as you know when you joined #ubuntu+1 that is the channel for 9.04 discussion
[16:39] <mhall119> Cruster: there are some caveats though
[16:39] <Cruster> ikonia: I am discussing for ssh ?!?!
[16:39] <ikonia> Cruster: on 9.04
[16:39] <mhall119> Cruster: some applications, especially video and opengl ones, draw directly to the hardware, bypassing X11
[16:39] <ikonia> Cruster: please take the discussion to #ubuntu+1
[16:39] <SingAlong> any help on getting wireless working on my ubuntu 8.04?
[16:40] <Cruster> ikonia: I am in ubuntu+1 channel, what's the problem? I didn't ask for support here
[16:40] <Cruster> mhall119: thanks for the info
[16:40] <ikonia> Cruster: then y our offtopic
[16:40] <ikonia> Cruster: this is support hannel
[16:40] <ikonia> channel
[16:40] <directive0> Sorry to interrupt, I was wondering if anyone could help me diagnose a Segmentation Fault I keep getting when trying to safely upgrade using aptitude?
[16:40] <vigo> Is the Gnome2 Ruby an apt-get?
[16:41] <ikonia> directive0: segfaults are normally pretty serious
[16:41] <ikonia> directive0: it's not easy to follow them through, what are you doing when it segfaults
[16:42] <dee25> how u changed the resoluton on ubuntu 8.10
[16:42] <dee25> i have intel 82865G
[16:42] <srx2002> hey guys, I installed apache2 and I'm trying to see if my server is accessible from outside my network....but when I enter http://myexternalip:80   it brings me to the linksys router page
[16:42] <srx2002> any ideas
[16:42] <ikonia> dee25: the tools in system -> preference -> screen resolution
[16:42] <darthanubis> dee25, take a stroll through the menu
[16:42] <deus> is there in kubuntu a proper pdf viewer/editor? Somthing like adobe acrobat professional (with at least crop support)?
[16:42] <ikonia> srx2002: you've not got port forwarding setup
[16:42] <thomc> So I installed drivers for my wireless adapter using ndiswrapper, and it was recognized and working fine etc. And then I come to reboot and it's gone... what's up with that?
[16:42] <dee25> is only
[16:42] <directive0> ikonia: as aptitude begins to unpack my upgrades it successfully writes the extended package state information, then begins preconfiguring and simply states "Segmentation Fault"
[16:42] <dee25> 800x600
[16:43] <dee25> i want 1204x768
[16:43] <mhall119> dee25: did you ever get the proper intel driver working?
[16:43] <broonsparrow> mailman. after spending all day I almost have Mailman installed, but I have one problem, when it says 'hostname' what would that be?
[16:43] <ikonia> directive0: not good at all
[16:43] <vigo> deus: I am most certain OpenOffice has one
[16:43] <mhall119> or are you still using the vesa driver?
[16:43] <darthanubis> dee25, system>prefences>screen resolution, don't be lazy
[16:43] <directive0> ikonia: could you elaborate?  What is the likely cause, or causes?
[16:43] <mhall119> darthanubis: dee25 has a driver issue
[16:43] <darthanubis> mhall119, sorry dee25
[16:43] <dee25> yeaaa
[16:43] <ikonia> directive0: likley cause good be anything, segfaults can often be bad hardware, but doesn't mean it always is
[16:44] <ikonia> directive0: need to do a backtrace and work it through
[16:44] <mhall119> dee25, if you're still using the vesa driver, you won't get anything above 800x600
[16:44] <dee25> nah i took it off
[16:44] <deus> vigo: I don't mean creating a pdf, but viewing an existing pdf
[16:44] <dee25> i was going the steps but the guy sign off
[16:44] <vigo> deus: Yes, O_O has that function in it
[16:45] <mhall119> dee25: what driver are you running now?
[16:45] <dee25> intel 82865G
[16:45] <directive0> ikonia: that was what I was trying to figure out how to do.  I'll go read some reference on the subject and maybe come back with some more info on my problem.  Thanks for the advice.
[16:45] <mhall119> dee25: if you have the right driver installed, try going through: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:46] <ikonia> directive0: if your going to log a bug it's worth running memtest for a good few hours on your PC to get an idea of your state of hardware before logging it, as that will be a common question you'll get asked once it's logged
[16:46] <ikonia> directive0: make sure nothing is overclocked etc etc
[16:46] <ikonia> directive0: make sure no tests fail etc etc
[16:46] <paxcoder> does ubuntu include proprietary software in it's default form?
[16:46] <ikonia> paxcoder: no
[16:46] <dee25> OK
[16:46] <dee25> IT TAKES ME TO A PROMPT
[16:46] <mhall119> paxcoder: some
[16:47] <dee25> CONFIGURING XSERVER.ORG
[16:47] <ikonia> dee25: careful with the caps please
[16:47] <mhall119> dee25: follow the instructions
[16:47] <paxcoder> mhall119: example?
[16:47] <mhall119> paxcoder: Ubuntu will install proprietary drivers for things like video and wireless
[16:47] <paxcoder> mhall119: automatically?
[16:47] <ikonia> mhall119: that's not installed at default
[16:47] <mhall119> paxcoder: yes, though it might prompt you, I don't remember
[16:47] <ikonia> paxcoder: it will prompt you if you'd like to do this
[16:48] <mhall119> I do know that it will notify you when you first load the desktop that you are using proprietary drivers
[16:48] <paxcoder> hmmm.
[16:48] <dee25> use kernel framebuffer device interface
[16:48] <mhall119> dee25: no
[16:48] <paxcoder> ikonia: it will prompt you before you install them?
[16:48] <ikonia> paxcoder: default is nothing is installed, it gives you options/tool to use it
[16:48] <ikonia> paxcoder: you have to say "I'd like to install them" for it to install them, it won't just do it
[16:48] <mhall119> ikonia: you sure about that?
[16:48] <ikonia> mhall119: yes
[16:48] <dee25> it taled about keyboard
[16:48] <paxcoder> ok
[16:49] <dee25> i put no
[16:49] <mhall119> okay
[16:49] <paxcoder> thx. I'm sticking with Debian, but thx for answers.
[16:49] <Necrathex> how do i enable my ubuntu install to cross compile for distccd?
[16:49] <Necrathex> it needs i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
[16:49] <Necrathex> but that's not installed
[16:49] <vigo> shall119: It does have an icon for that, but I ignore it,now, and use the ones from Synaptic.
[16:50] <mhall119> vigo: what?
[16:51] <broonsparrow> I'm getting a password prompt asking for a password and the following message - i've no idea what password it wants! "The application 'Gossip' wants access to the default keyring but it is locked"
[16:51] <mhall119> what is gossip?
[16:51] <broonsparrow> a chat programme - i get the same error with pidgin
[16:51] <mhall119> is that what Empathy uses?
[16:51] <kitche> broonsparrow: it's your user password
[16:52] <broonsparrow> kitche, na that doesn't work
[16:52] <cyrus__> if I want to install the latest kernel source and compile, what packages do I need to install?
[16:52] <kitche> broonsparrow: then your keyring is broken
[16:53] <vigo> shall119: I ignore the icon for Proprietary Drivers install on the taskbar and use the drivers from Canonical/Restricted or Multiverse, when I used the one that was on desktop it messed me up, I ignored it, updated system, back up, re-boot, then installed the driver from Synaptic, the icon notification went away.
[16:53] <ikonia> cyrus__: the kernel source package, and core headers, ncurses-dev and a compiler
[16:53] <broonsparrow> kitche, ah! what does that mean and can I fix it!
[16:53] <kitche> broonsparrow: did you by chance use the same password that pidgin dialog asks for as well?
[16:54] <outlier> What is the best way to revert a bunch of packages back to the standard version from the launchpad versions?
[16:54] <i3ooi3oo> I have installed the following but I can not process and php files  apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server mysql-client php5-mysql
[16:54] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: have you restarted apache ?
[16:54] <i3ooi3oo> there is no php.ini or php.conf anywhere
[16:54] <i3ooi3oo> yes
[16:54] <dee25> keyboard variant?
[16:54] <broonsparrow> kitche, nope pidgin's not working which is why i ried gossip
[16:54] <i3ooi3oo> is the a config I needed to load?
[16:54] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: dpkg -l | grep -i php5
[16:54] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: are you sure php5 is installed?
[16:55] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: the apache config should be updated then you install libapache2-mod-php5
[16:55] <int256> broonsparrow: what os gossip
[16:55] <i3ooi3oo> I thought so too
[16:55] <i3ooi3oo> I removed it and then installed it again to double check
[16:55] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: dpkg -l | grep -i php5
[16:55] <broonsparrow> int256, ANOTHER CHAT THINGY
[16:55] <broonsparrow> opps!
[16:55] <cyrus__> ikonia - if I install the kernel source package, will it provide me the current .config file used for 8.10?
[16:56] <vig1> Who was having pidgin errors?
[16:56] <int256> broonsparrow: do you know any chat program which can be used in terminal. like irssi for irc
[16:56] <Guest17396> Hey my screen is really laggy i think its the video driver how can i fix this?
[16:56] <tv74971> guys my sound is completely distorted broken its like dj mixing it little bit help guys
[16:56] <ikonia> Cruster: no
[16:56] <i3ooi3oo> ikonia: http://pastebin.ca/1336195
[16:57] <broonsparrow> int256, na, but could try
[16:57] <george> I have ubuntu. I downloaded wine. how can I run Flight Sim from the vista partition?
[16:57] <i3ooi3oo> lol george
[16:57] <Cruster> ikonia: what?
[16:58] <jj__> 79
[16:58] <dee25> i configure the server all it was doing was configuring the keyboard
[16:58] <dieter_> Hi, can anybody help me with planner storing a project into a database
[16:58] <ikonia> Cruster: I didn't say anything to you
[16:58] <broonsparrow> i'm looking to have a jabba chat pidgin was fine for AIM but failed to use any of the gmail/jabber accounts, so tried gossip and that's not working
[16:58] <Cruster> [18:56:48] <ikonia> Cruster: no
[16:58] <Cruster> [18:56:50] <i3ooi3oo> ikonia: http://pastebin.ca/1336195
[16:58] <ikonia> Cruster: ooh wait, sorry, wrong nick
[16:58] <i3ooi3oo> george https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[16:58] <mhall119> george: you'll probably have to re-install it in Wine
[16:58] <ikonia> apologies
[16:58] <ikonia> cyrus__: no it won't give you the .config
[16:59] <int256> what is the main difference between Ubundu Desktop edition and Ubuntu Server
[16:59] <george> how to do that ,,from the cd??
[16:59] <Cruster> ikonia: np
[16:59] <ikonia> int256: one aimed at desktop hardware ,one aimed at enterprise
[16:59] <i3ooi3oo> mhall119: he must install in through wine
[16:59] <mhall119> broonsparrow: you'll need to point pidgin to conference.jabber.org for multi-user XMPP chat
[16:59] <i3ooi3oo> george did you read the link ?
[16:59] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: a2enmod php5
[16:59] <broonsparrow> mhall119, it did work fine for about a day then it failed to connect my jabber acounts
[16:59] <int256> ikonia: will the server edition work in Desktop hardware
[17:00] <engemec> hello everybody!
[17:00] <cyrus__> ikonia - anyway to get the .config used for the default kernel of 8.10
[17:00] <george> which link?
[17:00] <int256> engemec: heloo
[17:00] <ikonia> int256: yes, but it's not aimed at that, so why not use the desktop version ?
[17:00] <ikonia> cyrus__: it's in your /boot directory
[17:00] <cyrus__> ikonia - ah...thank you
[17:00] <int256> ikonia. my friend gave me the server edition.
[17:00] <ikonia> int256: download the desktop
[17:01] <mhall119> int256: download the desktop, it's free
[17:01] <int256> ikonia: ok
[17:01]  * int256 will be back in 3 min
[17:01] <i3ooi3oo> george https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[17:01] <Guest17396> ikonia: type in a terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:01] <Rafael__> hi, i have 3 hard drive 500 gb in raid 5, one of them is files, how do i know if there are identical whcih one is failing: all of them show same doel numer (which is the sam) and i know that sdc is failing..how will i know which is c?
[17:01] <george> ok tx
[17:01] <ikonia> Guest17396: so ?
[17:01] <ikonia> Guest17396: that's not what I said, I didn't say it wasn't available
[17:01] <Guest17396> or kubuntu-desktop if you want KDE (differnt GUI in simple people terms)
[17:02] <i3ooi3oo> Rafael__: LVM?
[17:02] <ikonia> Rafael__: should have mapped it to your disk IO ports
[17:02] <ikonia> Rafael__: if you mark it as "fail" you should see the io light on the drive caddy go out of sync with the others
[17:02] <Rafael__> i3ooi300:  LVM just RAID 5
[17:03] <ikonia> Rafael__: if your using raid5 - all writes hit the stripe, so if you remove one from the stripe it won't flash on writes
[17:03] <tv74971> guys anyone ?
[17:03] <innociv> /etc/init.d/ssh reload  <- that'll use my new iptables rules
[17:03] <bigbrovar> does any body get this crazy screen http://tinyurl.com/b5dhzc when u max a windows with composite enabled on ibex, intel GM965 ?... it can be really annoying
[17:03] <ikonia> tv74971: anyone means nothing, if someone missed the queston "anyone" won't tell them what it was, if they don't know, saying "anyone" won't make them know
[17:03] <ikonia> innociv: you don't need to reload
[17:03] <ikonia> innociv: iptables is real time
[17:04] <innociv> really?
[17:04] <ikonia> innociv: yes
[17:04] <i3ooi3oo> ikonia: it still doesn't work... it is like apache does't know what to do with .php files
[17:04] <innociv> ty
[17:04] <innociv> is it that way on centos too? seems like it wasn't
[17:04] <ikonia> innociv: did you do "sudo a2enmod php5"
[17:04] <ikonia> innociv: on any os
[17:04] <innociv> erm i'm not sure.. why?
[17:04] <ikonia> innociv: sorry - that wasn't for you
[17:04] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: did you do "sudo a2enmod php5"
[17:04]  * int256 is back
[17:05] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: yes it works the same on centos
[17:05] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: ughhh sorry
[17:05] <tv74971> ikonia: "  (10:41:45 PM) tv74971: guys my sound is completely distorted broken its like dj mixing it little bit help guys  "
[17:05] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: ls /etc/apache2/mods-available |grep php
[17:05] <i3ooi3oo> it is like this "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml" is missing from the appache.conf
[17:06] <Rafael__> ikonia: sorry to be so ignorant i am newbe with ubuntu...it is mark already as fail...can you give me some hint on what is IO and were to looks...thanks a lot
[17:06] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: a2enmod php5 will do that
[17:06] <trygg> how can i change my sound card to not be pulseaudio and instead by mu nforce card?
[17:06] <trygg> do i need drivers?
[17:06] <int256> any one pls help me to install Centericq
[17:06] <ikonia> Rafael__: a light on th ehard disk
[17:06] <i3ooi3oo> mod-available not there
[17:06] <int256> i am new to linux
[17:06] <i3ooi3oo> *mods-available not there
[17:06] <ikonia>  i3ooi3oo the whole dir is not there ?
[17:07] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: the directory is not there?
[17:07] <LogicFan> "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" is that the only command required to completely restart the sound driver in 8.10?
[17:07] <i3ooi3oo> cd sorry
[17:07] <LogicFan> it doesn't seem to be working for me
[17:07] <i3ooi3oo> sorry it's there
[17:07] <i3ooi3oo> wrong console... i did it on the ssh windows
[17:07] <mhall119> are there any php.* files in mods-available?
[17:07] <Guest17396> LogicFan: urm that does look like it restarts something propperly
[17:07] <mhall119> or php5.* to be specific
[17:07] <skinofstars12> LopgicFan, are we not using pulseaudio in 8.10
[17:07] <i3ooi3oo> both php5 load and conf are there
[17:07] <LogicFan> sorry, i mean that it does restart correctly, but it doesn't re-enable sound
[17:07] <Rafael__> ikonia..let me check
[17:08] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: now look in mods-enabled
[17:08] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ |grep php
[17:08] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: or re-run sudo a2enmod php5
[17:08] <i3ooi3oo> there too
[17:08] <mhall119> restart apache2
[17:08] <LogicFan> skinofstars12, sorry, pulse-audio? is that a different driver?
[17:08] <dougl> what is the command to open a shell window and run a command in that shell where program output can be veiwed?
[17:08] <i3ooi3oo> already enabled
[17:08] <mhall119> LogicFan: PulseAudio is a sound server, not a driver
[17:08] <quibbler> int256: open synaptic and search for Centericq
[17:08] <kamel458> yop
[17:09] <ikonia> dougl: command - that it, eg: ls launches ls
[17:09] <lasivian> I am trying to tether a window mobile device with ICS to ubuntu using rndis. dmesg says "Bad cdc descriptors" does anyone know why? thanks
[17:09] <skinofstars12> LogicFan: when i've had sound issues i've found restarting pulseaudio to be the trick
[17:09] <LogicFan> mhall119, ah, do i need to restart both?
[17:09] <kamel458> I have a little problem with intrepid ibbex
[17:09] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: that should get apache to run *.php files
[17:09] <lasivian> this device worked previously, but not with this kernel, I have since rebuilt rndis
[17:09] <int256> quibbler: you mean Synaptic Package Manager ?
[17:09] <mhall119> LogicFan: don't know, haven't been following your conversation
[17:09] <quibbler> int256: yes
[17:10] <dougl> ikonia, sec - brb
[17:10] <i3ooi3oo> agreed it should but it tries to dl .php files
[17:10] <int256> quibbler: it does not display Centericq
[17:10] <skinofstars12> LogicFan: yeah, i'm jumping in half way too. pulse is a sound server and is often the issue when sound mesteriously stops working mid session
[17:11] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: weird, have you changed any of the apache configs before this?
[17:11] <LogicFan> mhall119, i have this strange problem on 8.10 64bit where if i mute the sound using volume applet, close my laptop lid (dell m1330) and then re-open my lid and unmute audio, there is no sound
[17:11] <LogicFan> no matter what volume controls i play with
[17:11] <LogicFan> and restarting alsa doesnt seem to do the trick
[17:11] <LogicFan> but, if i reboot
[17:11] <i3ooi3oo> not on this box
[17:11] <LogicFan> sound comes back
[17:11] <mhall119> LogicFan: does your laptop suspend when you close the lid?
[17:11] <LogicFan> no
[17:11] <LogicFan> lid does nothing, just blanks the screen
[17:12] <i3ooi3oo> i even stop then start the apache2 daemon just incase a restart didn't load teh config
[17:12] <mhall119> it could be that it's trying to put the sound card into a low-power state
[17:12] <quibbler> int256: by me well...make sure you have all repositories checked
[17:12] <winema> Hello Guys
[17:12] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: then I'm at a loss, those steps have always worked for me
[17:12] <int256> quibbler: what is repositories ??
[17:12] <ubuntu_> I need help with grub, I had like 5 distros on my machine and I deleted the entire drive.. i get an error 15 from grub on bootup. How can I get back into my ubuntu??? using 64bit live cd to ask you all
[17:12] <winema> Can someone tell me if it's possible to install ubuntu from vmware, onto my main harddisk?
[17:13] <i3ooi3oo> well I was at a lost since I have 4 other systems running ubuntu that are full lamp
[17:13] <mhall119> ubuntu_: you deleted everything on your harddrive
[17:13] <mhall119> ?
[17:13] <i3ooi3oo> that worked jsut fine
[17:13] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: same php code?
[17:13] <quibbler> int256: system-administration-software sources
[17:13] <i3ooi3oo> no
[17:13] <LogicFan> winema, no.  it would be better to just boot from livecd and install from there
[17:13] <i3ooi3oo> this is dev setup
[17:13] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: check the permissions on the php files, compare to your other servers
[17:13] <ubuntu_> everything on 2nd hdd that contained distros i no longer wanted... just now i get an error15 and it wont go no further
[17:13] <arvind_khadri> ubuntu_, just reinstall grub
[17:14] <i3ooi3oo> but it is not processing the php
[17:14] <arvind_khadri> !grub > ubuntu_
[17:14] <i3ooi3oo> they are at home
[17:14] <i3ooi3oo> at work
[17:14] <mhall119> ubuntu_: which drive had your bootloader?
[17:14] <int256> quibbler: yes
[17:14] <ikonia> i3ooi3oo: are the files executable ?
[17:14] <winema> my livecd aint working
[17:14] <ubuntu_> good question
[17:14] <winema> i hit enter on install
[17:14] <i3ooi3oo> all other setups here are fedora
[17:14] <winema> and it just hangs
[17:14] <mhall119> ubuntu_: doesn't sound like good news for you then
[17:14] <spsneo> is there any way to host an ubuntu repository on a fedora or a redhat machine?
[17:14] <i3ooi3oo> I doubt it let me check
[17:15] <afeijo> how can I check my server temperatures thru ssh?
[17:15] <mhall119> php files shouldn't need to be executable
[17:15] <humbolt> Which compile time differences do you know of between Fedora and Ubuntu? Like Fedora generally compiles with no optimizations at all except for glibc, we do compile all our packages optimized for i686. Therefore the system will be slower on a i586 but feelable faster on i686
[17:15] <mhall119> afeijo: acpi -V -f
[17:15] <ikonia> mhall119: really, thought they needed +x
[17:15] <ikonia> mhall119: I don't doubt you
[17:15] <spsneo> is there any way to host an ubuntu repository on a fedora or a redhat machine? please help
[17:15] <ubuntu_> i can go into and see where my ubuntu is installed, cant i somehow just reinstall grub or something
[17:15] <afeijo> mhall119: no support for device type: thermal
[17:15] <i3ooi3oo> all .php files are +x now and still
[17:15] <mhall119> ikonia: mine are 644 and they work
[17:15] <ikonia> humbolt: you've just been told that is nothing to do with ubuntu support - please don't ask again
[17:15] <i3ooi3oo> NOTHING but trying to DL the files
[17:15] <ikonia> mhall119: fair enough
[17:16] <afeijo> i3ooi3oo: you dont have php5 module installed I guess
[17:16] <mhall119> afeijo: then your server hardware might not be acpi compliant
[17:16] <afeijo> mhall119: weird... thanks
[17:16] <snikker> there is a way to type a "ALT+0160" chars (or any other combinations) in linux?
[17:16] <i3ooi3oo> php5-cgi works
[17:16] <calwig> anyone know the autoresize tool in Gimp to import/export jpegs to a pre-determined size?
[17:16] <lasivian> this device worked previously, but not with this kernel, I have since rebuilt rndis and it's still not working
[17:16] <quibbler> int256: if you want you can install from the terminal type:  sudo apt-get install centericq
[17:16] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: try re-installing mo_php
[17:17] <linux_newbie> Hi, I am getting the following error while update check...W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220
[17:17] <mhall119> mod_php
[17:17] <spsneo> is there any way to cache ubuntu packages on a fedora machine and then serve it locally , something like apt-cacher
[17:17] <winema> Is it possible to install ubuntu from a usb?
[17:17] <mhall119> winema: yes
[17:17] <sipior> spsneo: sure, why not?
[17:17] <i3ooi3oo> ok i iwll apt-get remove apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server mysql-client php5-mysql
[17:17] <winema> Do you know where i can find a guide to do this for the most recent version of ubuntu?
[17:17] <i3ooi3oo> then install them all at once
[17:17] <spsneo> sipior: how? can u give a pointer to some instructions?
[17:17] <lasivian> has anyone tethered a windows mobile phone to ubuntu?
[17:18] <jimcooncat> spsneo: if you can't install apt-cacher, then maybe something like polipo might do it
[17:18] <int256> quibbler: i installed it.
[17:18] <mhall119> winema: are you running the most recent version of Ubuntu?
[17:18] <winema> no
[17:18] <winema> im having an issue with the livecd
[17:18] <i3ooi3oo> still nada
[17:18] <int256> quibbler: how to start the application
[17:18] <mhall119> winema: google ubuntu USB liveCD, there should be tutorials
[17:18] <winema> im currently on windows
[17:18] <mhall119> I'm sorry
[17:19] <linux_newbie> Hi, can someone please help fix the following error: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220.
[17:19] <mhall119> i3ooi3oo: when it servers the php files to download, have you looked at what it's giving you?
[17:19] <quibbler> int256: i have no idea i don't use it. try in the terminal centericq
[17:19] <spsneo> jimcooncat: but i don't want a proxy. i want some daemon something like apt-cacher
[17:19] <zleap> linux_newbie, try going to sofrware sources
[17:19] <mhall119> linux_newbie: you probably need to add the ppa's signing key, if they use something different that the official repos
[17:19] <int256> quibbler: ok
[17:19] <spsneo> jimcooncat: is there any documentation on how to install apt-cacher
[17:20] <LogicFan> mhall119, i'm at a loss, restarting alsa and pulseaudio doesn't seem to be working, i guess a reboot is in order
[17:20] <spsneo> sipior: what happened?
[17:20] <jimcooncat> spsneo: yes, apt-cacher is a caching proxy
[17:20] <sipior> spsneo: you can assemble a repository on any machine with a working web server. you just need to ensure that the file layout is correct. google for examples and repository setup tutorials
[17:20] <sipior> spsneo: what happened with what?
[17:20] <quibbler> linux_newbie: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6626736&postcount=34  read the whole post
[17:20] <spsneo> sipior: sorry that was a mistake
[17:20] <linux_newbie> thanks guys
[17:20] <jimcooncat> spsneo: I take it you don't have apt-get on that machine.
[17:21] <int256> quibbler: when i typed centericq and press enter on terminal it says 'error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[17:21] <spsneo> jimcooncat: yeah true
[17:21] <molnitza> Hello. I want to install grub on an compact flash card with  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk-2 /dev/sdc, but i get the message The file /media/disk-2/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[17:21] <spsneo> jimcooncat: its a fedora machine
[17:21] <ikonia> int256: how did you install it ?
[17:21] <arvind_khadri> linux_newbie, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6649356
[17:21] <int256> ikonia: installed from a .deb file
[17:22] <ikonia> int256: from where ?
[17:22] <dougl> ikonia, I configured a script to run in the 'session' option under 'system' on the menu... one script to start 'ushare -c ushare' and another to start 'hellanzb' when I log in these scripts start the applications but I do not get a console to view the output - do you understand?
[17:22] <int256> i got it from their website.
[17:22] <wallunit> where would i put the export PS1=... statement to configure the commandline prompt. When i put it into the /etc/bash.bashrc it does not work on ubuntu?
[17:23] <ikonia> int256: then that package is broke against the version of SSL you have
[17:23] <calwig> anyone know the batch resize tool in gimp? what it is called?
[17:23] <i3ooi3oo> mhall119:  yes it is the install.php file with php code and flags
[17:23] <mhall119> dougl: they're running in the background, you'll need to send the output to a log file
[17:23] <bigbrovar> does any body get this crazy screen  http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3339/3276208773_f545cf9621_b_d.jpg  when i max a windows with composite enabled on ubuntu 8.10 with intel GM965 graphic card .. i only get this when i have composite enabled and its shows up for some seconds and then the screen becomes normal
[17:23] <credo> wallunit: mine is in ~/.bashrc
[17:23] <int256> ikonia: now what should i do
[17:23] <calwig> found it
[17:23] <ikonia> int256: report a bug to them
[17:23] <mhall119> calwig: for batch resize you can use phatch, or image magic's command line tools
[17:24] <credo> then $SOURCE ~/.bashrc if i remember correctly
[17:24] <calwig> mhall119: gimp-plugin-registry has a batch program
[17:24] <mhall119> oh, I didn't know that
[17:24] <wallunit> credo: and systemwide?
[17:24] <int256> ikonia: ok
[17:24] <credo> not sure
[17:24] <mhall119> calwig: I've been using phatch recently, it's very handy
[17:24] <mhall119> integrates with Nautilus too
[17:25] <jimcooncat> spsneo: This looks like a good starting point: http://ankurs.com/2007/12/making-a-local-ubuntu-debian-repository-on-fedora/
[17:25] <quibbler> ikonia: i told int256 to use sudo apt-get install centericq
[17:25] <spsneo> i tried this one but it does not work
[17:25] <mhall119> I use it for making thumbnails of screenshots, resize, round corners, add drop shadow, save under a separate directory
[17:25] <deus> if i click on a pdf file in firefox, it asks me to save the file. is there also a way to just open the file?
[17:25] <dougl> mhall119, that is the thing can - how I get them to run in the forground to view output?
[17:26] <mhall119> dougl: if you re-direct their output to a log file, you can just tail -f the log file
[17:26] <ikonia> quibbler: well as it's not in the urrent repo's - I assume that's why he's got a deb from their site
[17:27] <int256> quibbler: but sudo apt-get install centericq is not working
[17:27] <calwig> mhall119: is it in the repository?
[17:27] <quibbler> ikonia: i have it in mine (hardy)
[17:27] <ikonia> quibbler: not in 8.10
[17:27] <mhall119> calwig, yes
[17:27] <calwig> o.o
[17:27] <credo> new name of centericq is centerim
[17:27] <progre55> hi everybody! I have a problem with my microphone.. how can I see what kind of driver I am using?
[17:27] <dougl> mhall119, so I would want this automated and find my self writing a script to tail a log file and when it starts it would be in the background too?
[17:27] <ikonia> credo: yup
[17:28] <spsneo> how to find which version of ubuntu I am using
[17:28] <quibbler> ikonia: i'm going tohave to ask that also then sorry
[17:28] <spsneo> ?
[17:28] <Pici> spsneo: lsb_release -a
[17:28] <calwig> mhall119: installing....
[17:28] <mhall119> dougl: your script would just redirect output to a log file, when you want to see what it's doing, you just open a terminal and type: tail -f $logfile
[17:28] <spsneo> Pici: thanks
[17:31] <WRXus> does anyone know if "safe graphics mode" is supposed to automatically launch the installer, or do i need to run the executables manually?
[17:31] <WRXus> having a hell of a time getting the installer to boot on my laptop, seems to hang with the normal install mode
[17:31] <mhall119> WRXus: save graphics mode is just a fall-back setting when you have a problem with your video configuration
[17:32] <mhall119> WRXus: how much memory do you have in it?
[17:32] <WRXus> well i'd say i have a problem, because every time i try to boot the installer, it hangs when X starts
[17:32] <WRXus> 1gb
[17:32] <mhall119> hmmm, what graphics card does it have?
[17:32] <WRXus> its a HP pavillion dv5000 series
[17:32] <WRXus> with a ATI radeon xpress 200M chipset
[17:32] <dougl> mhall119, ok - that would seem to work, but what if there were 5 that I like to review as I walk by my PC (a dvb tuner app, mythbackend, mythfrontend, synergys, hellanzb, and ushare) surely there must be a way to launch all of these things in console view on my desktop (2 let's say) - lol?
[17:32] <calwig> mhall119: works marvelously thank... youz!
[17:33] <arverne1> I need to run vnc with a command line. Everything is fine, except I can't see my desktop. I know I have to change something in my /home/XX/.vnc/xstartup file, but whatever I try, it doesn't work.
[17:33] <mhall119> WRXus: hmm, I don't see anything obviously wrong, try an alternative CD
[17:33] <mhall119> calwig: no problem
[17:33] <WRXus> what alternatives do i have? like the cmd line server install?
[17:33] <dmphotography> Hey, I just noticed something . . .
[17:33] <tv7497> ikonia: sir http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062041 even this post is from last week sir but no reply i have no idea what to do and sound is really really bad and broken
[17:33] <WRXus> i'd like to use a 64 bit version as it has a turion
[17:34] <mhall119> dougl: you can get log file readers that sit on your desktop, screenlets or gdesklets or something like that
[17:34] <dmphotography> How come when using Synaptic Package Manager, the versions of Apache, MySQL, php5, phpMyAdmin are all older versions?
[17:34] <mhall119> WRXus: have you tried the 32bit version?
[17:34] <Pici> !latest | dmphotography
[17:34] <maxkramsky> FUCK Y OU
[17:35] <dmphotography> Thanks Pici.
[17:35] <leonardo_> Hi, I'm with debian installed and i want to install ubuntu too. I have a separeted partition for home on debian and I would like to use this as home for ubuntu too
[17:35] <leonardo_> is it possible? and how?
[17:35] <dmphotography> I figured it was something like that.
[17:35] <dmphotography> But thought I would ask.
[17:35] <dougl> mhall119, cool = that is a good idea... eyecandy is nice - especially with a purpose. Thanks
[17:35] <dmphotography> So when do they actually post new versions?
[17:35] <mhall119> leonardo_: install Ubuntu, then change fstab to mount your home partition to /home
[17:36] <mhall119> dmphotography: usually only for a release uprade
[17:36] <WRXus> i have not tried the 32 bit version, though the 64 bit install disc sees the CPU correctly in dmesg
[17:36] <Pici> dmphotography: New releases of Ubuntu have new versions.  We are not a rolling release like debian is.
[17:36] <leonardo_> mhall119: any other way?
[17:36] <mhall119> WRXus: but the drivers may not be working right in 64bit
[17:36] <leonardo_> on buntu installing process
[17:36] <mhall119> leonardo_: that's probably the easiest
[17:36] <WRXus> good point, hadn't thought of that
[17:36] <leonardo_> mhall119, thanks
[17:37] <dmphotography> Pici: Well where exactly does Synaptic get it's packages from?
[17:37] <WRXus> assuming 32 bit install does work, can i do something like a dist-upgrade to get 64 bit?
[17:37] <mhall119> leonardo_: not in Ubiquity, I don't know if the debian installer has an option for that
[17:37] <mhall119> WRXus: I don't think so
[17:37] <Pici> dmphotography: The Ubuntu package repositories. http://packages.ubuntu.com is a good way to search them from outside of synaptic
[17:37] <leonardo_> back
[17:37] <belda> anyone know where I can find the xorg.log file??
[17:38] <dmphotography> So is Synaptic only designed for Ubuntu?
[17:38] <leonardo_> mhall119: didn't understand
[17:38] <Huufarted> Question:  Running Ubuntu, this morning is the first time this happened.  I start up Pidgin and when I attempt to send a message, the entire program locks.  Is there a way to determine what's causing it?  I apologize if this is offtopic, but not sure where else to look.
[17:38] <mhall119> leonardo_: the alternative CD might have more options during the install about using a separate partition for /home
[17:38] <Huufarted> Does Ubuntu log lockups to give me a place to look?
[17:38] <Pici> dmphotography: No. Synaptic is a program that looks through the APT repositories defined in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:38] <leonardo_> mhall119: it has when installing ubuntu, i can change to /home
[17:38] <Flannel> leonardo_: You can install with a separate home partition in either(any) of the installers.
[17:38] <mhall119> dmphotography: synaptic is a front-end to APT and DPKG, any debian-based disto should have it
[17:39] <dmphotography> Gotcha.
[17:39] <Pici> !repos > dmphotography
[17:39] <WRXus> mhall119: thanks will give that a try, downloading 32 bit iso now
[17:39] <Enissay> is there any tool that gives the (x,y) coordinates in pixel of the mouse position?
[17:39] <mhall119> Flannel: really? even in Ubiquity?
[17:39] <leonardo_> flannel: I already have a  separeted partition to home
[17:39] <Flannel> mhall119: Of course.  Ubiquity isn't a second class installer.  The only thing it can't do is LVM
[17:39] <zedde_> hi all ... i have today installed Ubuntu 8.10 and can someone help me with sound and wirelees ?? Please
[17:40] <Pici> Enissay: xwininfo *might*
[17:40] <leonardo_> Flannel: I can change this partition to home when installing ubuntu?
[17:40] <Flannel> leonardo_: Right, that's fine.  You just mark that partition to be used as home, without formatting.
[17:40] <mhall119> Flannel: oh, I hadn't seen that option before.  Not a dig on Ubiquity
[17:40] <dmphotography> Is there a package manager that would install the latest versions of Apache, MySQL, PHP, etc?
[17:40] <leonardo_> Flannel: thanks
[17:40] <belda> hi, anyone know, where I can find the xorg. log file
[17:40] <mhall119> dmphotography: Synaptic will, if you point it to a repository that has the latest versions
[17:40] <mhall119> belda: /var/log/
[17:40] <dmphotography> mhall119: Thank you.
[17:41] <sisapinusa> /msg #ircsisap test
[17:41] <belda> nope, nothing there
[17:41] <Flannel> leonardo_: It works the same way as with debian installer
[17:41] <mhall119> nothing?
[17:41] <dmphotography> Pici: Thank you too!
[17:41] <leonardo_> ok
[17:41] <Huufarted> If a program (Pidgin in this case) is locking up and needs killed, is there a way to see what was causing it through Ubuntu?
[17:41] <leonardo_> i'll try
[17:41] <belda> i am trying to setup ltsp, and nothing is there
[17:41] <mhall119> Huufarted: I don't think so
[17:41] <mhall119> belda: has X been run yet?
[17:42] <Huufarted> mhall119, thanks
[17:42] <tv7497> guys little help
[17:42] <mhall119> Huufarted: if it keeps locking, you can try running it under a debugger
[17:42] <Enissay> Pici, thanks a lot :D
[17:42] <mhall119> but as far as checking on a past event, I don't think so
[17:43] <Huufarted> mhall119, where can I go to learn about running it under a debugger?  I can debug it no problem once I get it going, but getting it set up is where I'm lost.
[17:43] <mhall119> Huufarted: man gdb
[17:43] <Rafael__> ikonia: i do not have any ligth, the server was build on pc platform, anby other way?
[17:44] <Huufarted> ty, mhall119
[17:44] <judget> I have noticed that my USB devices seem to loss their mount and then re-mount with a second instance
[17:44] <mhall119> no problem
[17:44] <judget> has anyone else experienced this?
[17:44] <carpii> im planning on installing ubuntu direct to a usb pen drive. Does anyone know if I can prevent grub from being installed on my hard drive without having to physically remove it?
[17:44] <mhall119> judget: nope, what kind of device?
[17:44] <ladfnet> Where does ubuntu store the monitor resolution settings?  I know xorg.conf is used, but it seems to me that there must be several settings.   when I'm logged into KDE i have a resolution of 1360x768, but when I press the logout button I have a resolution of 2640x800 (i think) making my "desktop" scroll with the mouse. Also when my system boots it has a resolution that my monitor does not support.
[17:45] <beast__> My default torrent client (Deluge) has been replaced with some uncontrollable (in the sense you can't manage the torrent at all with it) Gnome client.  Must have been that Gnome update.  Can anyone help me get back to Deluge as the default?
[17:45] <l337ingDisorder> I'm trying to create a LiveCD that launches partimage on bootup instead of gnome. I've managed to create a LiveCD iso with partimage working on it, but there's no /home/ubuntu dir (and thus no .bashrc to modify). Can anyone explain how I can set an app to launch on startup of the LiveCD? (it doesn't HAVE to replace gnome, it could run on top in gnome-terminal)
[17:45] <judget> ubb drive NTFS
[17:45] <judget> OBW i got the automount to work again thanks everyone 4 the help
[17:45] <l337ingDisorder> ladfnet: looked at your KDM config?
[17:45] <judget> usb drive NTFS
[17:46] <ladfnet> l337ingDisorder: that might be a good clue, yes. tnx
[17:46] <mhall119> judget: no idea, sorry
[17:46] <carpii> l227, not sure if this is the correct way, but maybe you can add it to /etc/rc.local ?
[17:46] <carpii> oops, 1227 + 110
[17:46] <int256> does ubuntu have a taskmanager
[17:47] <mhall119> l337ingDisorder: you will need to change the default desktop manager in X
[17:47] <quibbler> beast__: right click a torrent file choose properties open with and choose  deluge
[17:47] <shakir> how can i catche a virus who is going around localnetwork in our town?
[17:47] <mhall119> int256: system monitor
[17:48] <Huufarted> A town doesn't have a local network.  It's just a subnet on the greater internet.
[17:48] <int256> mhall119: ok, thnaks
[17:48] <Huufarted> If it IS set up as a local network, you need to find a new ISP
[17:48] <Ashok_> can someone help me with getting my fresh install of intrepid to start up?
[17:48] <SingAlong> Hi all
[17:48] <Huufarted> shakir, you're also running Linux (I hope since you're in here) so you can't just 'catch' the virus
[17:49] <mhall119> Huufarted: they might have a MAN
[17:49] <shakir> we have a cable internet and the virus is in the network and we like to find him but we dont knew how
[17:49] <SingAlong> I have an acer extensa laptop. and my wireless isnt working. I also installed the firmware for my wireless thru the bcm module and restarted but I still cant get the wireless working.
[17:49] <Huufarted> a MAN?
[17:49] <mhall119> MAN=Metropolitan Area Netowrk
[17:49] <Huufarted> Oh, gotcha.
[17:50] <Pici> !offtopic | shakir
[17:50] <Huufarted> But would they leave it open to all of the individual users similar to a local network??
[17:50] <Huufarted> seems dangerous
[17:50] <mhall119> SingAlong: what wireless card does it have?
[17:50] <beast__> quibbler:  how can i make that the default behaviour?
[17:50] <int256> how to uninstall an application
[17:50] <mhall119> Huufarted: my city has a fiber network for downtown businesses, it's not open to anyone, you have to subscribe
[17:50] <Huufarted> SingAlong, what is the chipset on your wireless chipset.
[17:51] <Num83rGuy> I am about to build a new computer using an ASUS M3N78-EM motherboard and was wondering if the issues with no/bad sound from the Realtek ALC1200 audio had been fixed?
[17:51] <SingAlong> mhall119: no idea. I went to Administration and Restricted Drivers and it had already detected the driver need to be installed. I enabled it and restarted but still doesnt work
[17:51] <Ashok_> can anyone help me with some x server issues? my fresh install of intrepid gives me a mostly white screen and thatsa bout it....
[17:51] <shakir> yes i knew that this is chanel for ubuntu but i knew that ubuntu is powefull and i thing that ubuntu have a powerfull application to find da virus
[17:51] <quibbler> beast__: when you choose open with you made it deluge....delete anything else there
[17:51] <Huufarted> SingAlong, we need to know the wireless adapter's chipset, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess an Atheros
[17:51] <SingAlong> Huufarted: how can I find that out?
[17:51] <Huufarted> SingAlong, you running Hardy or Intrepid?  As far as finding it out, give me the make and model of the laptop.  I'll do a quick search
[17:52] <carpii> im planning on installing ubuntu direct to a usb pen drive. Does anyone know if I can prevent grub from being installed on my hard drive without having to physically remove it?
[17:52] <mhall119> SingAlong: from the terminal, type: lspci |grep -i wireless
[17:52] <quibbler> beast__: the next time you double click a torrent file it will open in deluge
[17:52] <SingAlong> Yeah I run ubuntu 8.04 and its an Acer Extensa 5210
[17:52] <dougl> can I have anysort of screenlets without using compiz?
[17:52] <mhall119> dougl: try gdesklets
[17:52] <Huufarted> 8.04 is Hardy (just FYI)
[17:53] <dougl> mhall119, :) - thanks again friend
[17:53] <mhall119> np
[17:53] <tlchack5> HELP! i installed ubuntu on my Dell Optiplex GX260 and after loging in it just goes to a yellow screen with the curser but it never loads to a desktop! What do i do!
[17:53] <mhall119> panic
[17:53] <Rafael__> one of my 3 hard drrive RAID is saying that has faild, being identicall hard drive, how do i kno wwhich one failed, so i can removed?
[17:53] <tlchack5> check
[17:53] <SingAlong> mhall119: the result is nothing
[17:53] <shakir> nobody?
[17:53] <Ashok_> carpii: if you intsall to the jump drive from the alternate install cd
[17:53] <SingAlong> mhall119: I just got the next prompt
[17:54] <Ashok_> it gives you a choice if you want to install grub or not, just say no
[17:54] <mhall119> SingAlong: lspci |less and see if anything looks like a wireless card
[17:54] <carpii> ashok, alternative cd is a seperate download ?
[17:54] <carpii> i never really understood the reason for alternative cd
[17:54] <tlchack5> anybody know why it is doing this? or at least how to fix it???
[17:54] <powerslave> Does anyone know how to control the cursor of the mouse with the keyboard?
[17:54] <SingAlong> mhall119: I ran the hardware testing. and I got this "Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
[17:54] <SingAlong> Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)"
[17:54] <WishingMaster> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so .
[17:54] <SingAlong> asking me if thats right.
[17:54] <WishingMaster> what is this?
[17:55] <mhall119> ew, broadcom
[17:55] <Huufarted> SingAlong, it looks like yours uses a Broadcom chipset
[17:55] <Flannel> carpii: It serves a few reasons.  Largest two: it allows you to install without a GUI, and allows you to upgrade an install
[17:55] <carpii> ok, thanks Flannel
[17:55] <Ashok_> carpii: http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/intrepid/ the alternate ones are under a seperate heading, has the same files as the normal except its not a livecd
[17:55] <WishingMaster> i get this everytime i load a cd with pic
[17:55] <SingAlong> Huufarted: up!
[17:55] <Huufarted> SingAlong, that Broadcom one you are looking at is your hardline (gigabit gives that away)
[17:55] <beast__> Does anyone know how to change the default applications selected by Gnome?  I want to change what it thinks should be the default torrent client
[17:55] <SingAlong> Huufarted: *yup
[17:55] <carpii> Ashok, will Hardy alternate cd be ok too?
[17:55] <baz> i would like the alternate cd to be merged into the same one install, but right now it does some stuff the the regular install doesn't - like setup RAID
[17:55] <Ashok_> carpii: yeah,
[17:55] <Ashok_> yeah*
[17:55] <Num83rGuy> Any one know if the issues with Realtek ALC1200 audio have been fixed?
[17:55] <SingAlong> Huufarted: so anything I should set right?
[17:56] <Huufarted> SingAlong, but your wireless is also Broadcom so says my google search I just ran
[17:56] <carpii> ok thanks.  i dont like intrepid much :p
[17:56] <mhall119> Huufarted: the second one is the wireless
[17:56] <Flannel> baz: That's not physically possible.
[17:56] <Ashok_> carpii: whatever floats your boat ;)
[17:56] <Huufarted> Unfortunately SingAlong, I don't know.
[17:56] <Num83rGuy> I have saerched with no clear answer
[17:56] <quibbler> beast__: did you try what i told you
[17:56] <Rafael__> one of my 3 hard drrive RAID is saying that has faild, being identicall hard drive, how do i kno wwhich one failed, so i can removed?
[17:56] <Huufarted> If it was an Atheros, then I'd have suggestions since I had to work with mine.  But on Hardy and with a Broadcom, I'm going to be no help to you.  Sorry.
[17:56] <SingAlong> Huufarted: any guess how this can be set right?
[17:56] <beast__> quibbler:  yes, it works but not for default behaviour
[17:56] <powerslave> Does anyone know how to control the mouse cursor with the keyboard?
[17:57] <quibbler> beast__:  if you double click a torrent file does that open deluge
[17:57] <beast__> quibbler:  no
[17:58] <mhall119> Huufarted: check the ubuntu forums
[17:58] <SingAlong> Huufarted: I found something that you could use as info
[17:58] <WishingMaster> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so .
[17:58] <powerslave> Or do do right-click with the keyboard?
[17:58] <mhall119> SingAlong: check the ubuntu forums
[17:58] <WishingMaster> does anyone know about this?
[17:58] <SingAlong> Huufarted: I ran lspci | less and I found something
[17:58] <SingAlong> mhall119: shall I paste my lspci | less? reveals more info about my broadcom thing
[17:58] <rakudave> powerslave: in system--settings--keyboard, the 4th tab, enable checkbox. but careful, it will disable the numpad
[17:58] <Ashok_> can anyone help me get my install of intrepid working? i get some weird i/o errors during startup then whe the login sound plays the screen is (and remains) white with random black bars...
[17:58] <tv7497> SingAlong: paste.ubuntu.com
[17:59] <mhall119> SingAlong: no need, we found your wireless card
[17:59] <rakudave> powerslave: rightclick: the button left to the ctrl-key on the right
[17:59] <quibbler> beast__:  it should..are you sure you got only deluge in your open with
[17:59] <Huufarted> SingAlong, you'd do well to look for help from the other folks, not myself.  mhall119 is far more knowledgable about this than I am.
[17:59] <powerslave> rakudave: thanks, I'll give it a try.
[17:59] <beast__> quibbler:  no, the first option is "BitTorrent" which I never installed
[17:59] <mhall119> SingAlong: search the Ubuntu forums for "BCM94311MCG"
[17:59] <SingAlong> mhall119:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/117755/
[18:00] <quibbler> beast__: is deluge ther?
[18:00] <Num83rGuy> Any one know if the issues with Realtek ALC1200 audio have been fixed? I would like to know before throwing a large amount of money on it.
[18:00] <beast__> quibbler:  yes
[18:00] <sisapinusa> hey
[18:00] <Bolin> How do i create a root account?
[18:00] <powerslave> rakudave: can't I the a combination like ctrl-down.....?
[18:01] <Ienorand> Does anyone know of a more active irc channel for gnome than #gnome@irc.gnome.org?
[18:01] <SingAlong> mhall119: http://zugaldia.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/setting-up-the-broadcom-bcm94311mcg-in-ubuntu-804/ would this help me?
[18:01] <Flannel> Bolin: Why do you want to use the root account?
[18:01] <powerslave> rakudave: can't I set the a combination like ctrl-down.....?
[18:01] <quibbler> beast__: then click on deluge the little button should be selected for deluge
[18:01] <carpii> sorry to be off-topic but i just had to share this
 and it doesnt load  <nvrpunk> Kernel Pancake, it says  <carpii> youre booting from a burnt ubuntu cd ? <nvrpunk> no, it's not burnt  <nvrpunk> it's new  <nvrpunk> and clean
[18:01] <Bolin> im going to install a skin for kmess and it says in the INSTALL-file to be root when doing so
[18:01] <Flannel> Bolin: Use sudo
[18:01] <mhall119> SingAlong: possibly, also read here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769990
[18:02] <mhall119> it's not going to be easy, or pretty, broadcom cards are like that
[18:02] <Myrtti> carpii: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:02] <Bolin> so theres no need for a root account then?
[18:02] <SingAlong> mhall119: that guy on the blog clearly mentions that the suggested driver by ubuntu wont work
[18:02] <quibbler> beast__: then select and delete any other programs in the list
[18:02] <carpii> ok Myrtti ;)
[18:02] <mhall119> SingAlong: yeah, some of them don't
[18:02] <beast__> quibbler:  figured it out.  Right-click on torrent file, Properties, Open With
[18:02] <beast__> quibbler:  thanks :)
[18:02] <GridSimForNow> hello, anyone familiar with openCV?
[18:02] <WishingMaster> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so .
[18:02] <Flannel> Bolin: Nope.  sudo takes care of it.
[18:02] <rakudave> powerslave: i'm not sure, but if you can find out which value the "enable numpad-mouse" sets in gconf-editor, you could define an action that sets this value using gconftool
[18:03] <quibbler> beast__: ha ha you are welcome
[18:03] <miroerr> Hello, does anyone know whether it is possible to switch from Mint to Ubuntu (preserving setttings etc.)?
[18:03] <Bolin> okey... thanks
[18:03] <Ienorand> Bolin: There shouldn't be, read:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:03] <Bolin> will check it out.. thanks
[18:03] <powerslave> rakudave: thanks, what's the combination the left-click? ;)
[18:04] <l337ingDisorder> is there any way to put an icon on the desktop of all users without having to create individual icons? (ie, the equivalent of the 'All Users/Desktop' folder in Windows
[18:04] <mhall119> miroerr: is Mint based off Ubuntu?
[18:04] <powerslave> mhall119: yes
[18:04] <mhall119> l337ingDisorder: not easily, no
[18:04] <miroerr> mhall119: yes, it is based on Ubuntu and should be compatible
[18:04] <rakudave> powerslave: "5" i think
[18:04] <mhall119> miroerr: then it should be possible
[18:04] <mhall119> differences in package versions might cause you issues though
[18:05] <powerslave> rakudave: yes, 5 it is, thanks you so much!
[18:05] <Myrtti> miroerr: I suggest backing up your /home
[18:05] <Myrtti> miroerr: chances are you need to do a full reinstall.
[18:05] <l337ingDisorder> mhall119: know anything about the livecd? I'm trying to customize the livecd to put an icon on the desktop but the livecd doesn't have any users defined (I'm guessing it creates the 'ubuntu' user on bootup but can't find where)
[18:05] <miroerr> mhall119: ok, thank you. just wanted to try out mint whether its working, because ubuntu wouldn't at the moment :-/ So you think I could switch back to Ubuntu without losing all my data?
[18:05] <GridSimForNow> hello, anyone familiar with openCV? i have problem to run this code in linux:   cvCreateTrackbar( "Position", "Video2",  &g_slider_position, frameCount, onTrackbarSlide); but the same code is fine in windows. the error is : OpenCV Error: One of arguments' values is out of range (Bad trackbar maximal value)
[18:05] <GridSimForNow>            in function cvCreareTrackbar, window_gtk.cpp(861)
[18:06] <mhall119> l337ingDisorder: The LiveCD creates the "ubuntu" user at runtime, it uses /etc/skel as the template for /home/ubuntu
[18:06] <miroerr> Myrtti: yes, that would be the best idea I think, thanks
[18:06] <Flannel> GridSimForNow: That's offtopic for this channel.  You may try #ubuntu-offtopic, but youll have more luck in the appropriate OpenCV channel
[18:06] <l337ingDisorder> mhall119: ahhh awesome, thanks!
[18:06] <mhall119> l337ingDisorder: it's trickier than that I'm afraid
[18:07] <GridSimForNow> Flannel, thanks...
[18:08] <int256> how to access taskmanager in ubuntu
[18:08] <linduxed> OT -- i need a printer that will be suited for a specific task, what channel do i go to ask more specifically?
[18:10] <WishingMaster> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so .
[18:11] <mindless_> hi there
[18:11] <miroerr> hi
[18:11] <mindless_> can i ask about xfce here :?
[18:11] <WishingMaster> does any one know about this error message
[18:11] <WishingMaster> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so .
[18:11] <miroerr> doesn't ubuntu install grub by default? there's still windows' bootmanager :-/
[18:12] <WishingMaster> ??????????????
[18:12] <FloodBot1> WishingMaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <dayo> mindless: sure. but u could also try #xfce4
[18:12] <biia> ooi (:
[18:12] <mindless_> ohh cool :D
[18:12] <mindless_> thanks
[18:12] <dayo> mindless: or was it #xfce?
[18:12] <mindless_> il try
[18:12] <mindless_> #xfce
[18:12] <connyosis> I just updated firefox, and now the firefox window is totally blank. No buttons, no address bar, no nothing. I tried removing ~/.mozilla but that did nothing
[18:12] <dayo> mindless: u're welcome :-)
[18:12] <biia> ^^
[18:12] <mindless_> mm
[18:12] <connyosis> has this happened to anyone else=
[18:13] <^hashbang^> connyosis: do you have compiz running?
[18:13] <biia> alguem do Brasil?
[18:13] <connyosis> ^hashbang^: nope. nothing fancy going on
[18:13] <syockit> !br
[18:13] <Ashok_> can anyojne help me getting the x server to detect my display? atm all im getting is a white screen with some seemingly random black bars across it...
[18:13] <^hashbang^> connyosis: try ctrl+alt+backspace
[18:14] <connyosis> ^hashbang^: I can open and close it just fine, it's just that there are no controls of any kind in the firefox window. Just blank
[18:14] <^hashbang^> connyosis: try changing your theme
[18:14] <knoppix> Ashok - u 'll have to reconfigure Xorg
[18:15] <WishingMaster> Ashok_, dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:15] <connyosis> ^hashbang^: but isn't it strange that it worked just fine before the update? I haven't changed anything else
[18:15] <Ashok_> wishingmaster: where to input that?
[18:15] <^hashbang^> connyosis: yea that is strange
[18:15] <WishingMaster> Ashok_, cli
[18:15] <mhall119> connyosis: have you restarted your computer since you upgraded?
[18:15] <maxime_> hi everyone !!
[18:15] <mindless_> hi..
[18:15] <WishingMaster> Ashok_, can you login in Console Session?
[18:15] <Ashok_> wishingmaster: can you say that again except pretend i'm a noob? :P
[18:15] <^hashbang^> mall119: this isn't windows. you don't need to restart everything you install software =)
[18:16] <connyosis> mhall119: no, but it never prompted me to. I could try that I suppose
[18:16] <dee25> i got ubuntu 8.10 im stuck on 800x600
[18:16] <dee25> i have dell intel 82865G
[18:16] <mhall119> ^hashbang^: no, but if there is a library change you might need to restart to take advantage of it
[18:16] <^hashbang^> connyosis: just restart gnome with `ctrl+alt+backspace`
[18:16] <dee25> THIS THING IS FRUSTRATED LOL
[18:16] <connyosis> ^hashbang^: I'll give it a try
[18:16] <WishingMaster> Ashok_, when you start your system what options do you get?
[18:16] <^hashbang^> mall119: hmm, no... ldconfig handles that
[18:16] <connyosis> brb
[18:16] <krishnan> how can i built a load balancing server for my datacenter using hardy server edition
[18:17] <mhall119> ^hashbang^: I've had trouble with Firefox after upgrades before.  Nothing else, just firefox.  I don't know why
[18:17] <^hashbang^> mall119: strange...
[18:17] <mhall119> yeah
[18:17] <Silivrenion> Hey folks, what's the codename for the latest version of Ubuntu available? (8.10)
[18:17] <mhall119> Intrepid Ibex
[18:18] <Silivrenion> Intrepid Ibex?
[18:18] <mhall119> yes
[18:18] <dayo> krishnan: i saw a guide about that on http://www.howtoforge.com
[18:18] <Silivrenion> alright, thanks!
[18:18] <mhall119> np
[18:18] <connyosis> ^hashbang^: that solved it. Very strange though
[18:18] <krishnan> dayo: will check it out
[18:18] <Ulwarth> Hi all
[18:19] <^hashbang^> connyosis: could be a small bug in Firefox, you might want to check out the firefox forums...
[18:19] <mhall119> I don't know what Firefox does differently
[18:19] <^hashbang^> !welcome | Ulwarth
[18:19] <connyosis> ^hashbang^: Yeah I googled around and found some people with the same issue but no solutions
[18:19] <spsneo> how to install apt-cacher on fedora?
[18:20] <ice_cream> Silivrenion, lsb_release -a  should always tell you
[18:20] <^hashbang^> connyosis: weird..
[18:20] <prince_jammys> spsneo: wrong channel, sir
[18:20] <DevMonkeyX> hey guy, got a lil problem. ubuntu stops booting at the loading screen grub stage 1.5 (i think). then it promps me to run fsck scan. this is all at the command prompt (no gui)
[18:20] <mare> _mare_
[18:20] <connyosis> ^hashbang^: very. Oh well, thanks for the help
[18:20] <^hashbang^> np
[18:21] <QaDeS> does anybody here have an et131x (or an LG S1) and knows how to make it work properly on 8.10?
[18:21] <madmike> I just did a clean install, and when I try to play dvd's I get this:   The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?             I can't seem to find that package anywhere
[18:21] <spsneo> prince_jammys: I want to set up an ubuntu repo on a fedora machine
[18:22] <nightrid3r> madmike medibuntu repo
[18:22] <QaDeS> in fact, all my network stuff is pretty messed up :(
[18:22] <^hashbang^> !medibuntu | madmike
[18:22] <mhall119> madmike: try enabling universe and multiverse
[18:22] <dougl> what is the command to open a terminal/console/shell and run midnightcommander 'mc'?
[18:22] <quibbler> madmike: you have to have the medibuntu repositories
[18:22] <dayo> dougl: Alt+F2
[18:23] <mhall119> listen to quibbler and ^hashbang^
[18:23] <quibbler> !medibuntu
[18:23] <madmike> quibbler:  Someone said that once, and didn't tell me where to find them.   How do I find them?
[18:23] <^hashbang^> !medibuntu > madmike
[18:23] <bigbrovar> madmike: http://bigbrovar.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/multimedia-codecs-and-tools-for-ubuntu/
[18:23] <prince_jammys> dougl: your-terminal-prog -e mc . example: xterm -e mc
[18:24] <dougl> dayo, thanks but I want to open a gnome-terminal and run 'mc'...
[18:24] <dayo> bigbrovar: treacherous plasmodian! how far?
[18:24] <prince_jammys> dougl: the terminal will close as soon as you exit mc.
[18:24] <dougl> prince_jammys, thanks I will try that :)
[18:24] <dayo> dougl: Alt+F2   then type gnome-terminal
[18:24] <madmike> and is hashbang a bot like ubottu?
[18:25] <dayo> madmike: lol no, he/she's a real persn
[18:25] <madmike> ah ok
[18:25] <baz> Flannel, hyw cant the installations' functionality be merged? (alternate and regular)(
[18:26] <rdw200169> dougl, or just hit the 'open in terminal' check box
[18:26] <prince_jammys> i assumed he was making a launcher and wanted the prog already open in the terminal
[18:26] <madmike> bigbrovar:  don't mean to be a pain, but is there a faster way to get that package?
[18:26] <Flannel> baz: Because the alternate CD uses raw packages (the CD has a bunch of deb files), the desktop CD has a monolithic-ish liveCD image
[18:27] <Silivrenion> Is the ubuntu download area (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download) for Ubuntu Live CD, or is that an installer CD?
[18:27]  * kenami is away: Ausente por ahora.
[18:27] <tritium> !away | kenami
[18:27] <rivka> I am trying to get a USB device to work, and it's software needs a /dev/ttyUSB* device node. There is none. I tried the common mknod commands but they don't work. What should I do?
[18:28] <dayo> madmike: have u tried `sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2` ?
[18:28] <Rafael__> one of my 3 hard drrive RAID is saying that has faild, being identicall hard drive, how do i kno wwhich one failed, so i can removed?
[18:29] <tritium> madmike: best way to get it is from the medibuntu repository
[18:29] <tritium> !medibuntu | madmike
[18:29] <bigbrovar> madmike 8.4 or 8.10 ?
[18:29] <yoyoned> rivka: what kind of device
[18:29] <rivka> yoyoned: it's a card reader
[18:29] <madmike> dayo:  I'm new to the ubuntu side, I have no idea what aptitude is
[18:29] <rivka> yoyoned: chipcards
[18:30] <madmike> bigbrovar:  .10
[18:30] <dayo> madmike: open your terminal and type this:   sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[18:30] <madmike> tritium:  what does !medibuntu  mean?  the exclamation point
[18:30] <tritium> madmike: see the info above from ubottu
[18:30] <quibbler> madmike: look here and following instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:30] <yoyoned> rivka: is the reader plugged in
[18:30] <rivka> yoyoned: sure, other apps can use it
[18:31] <khelll> is there any tool that can show me other pcs on my net ?
[18:31] <bigbrovar> madmike open terminal Applications/Accessories/Terminal and copy and paste the following ..
[18:31] <tritium> dayo: that won't work unless he's enabled the medibuntu repo first
[18:31] <bigbrovar> madmike echo ‘deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-free’ | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list ; wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 libdvdread3 ; sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libxine1-ffmpeg libdv
[18:31] <dayo> tritium: ahh i see
[18:31] <bigbrovar> madmike: do that and press enter
[18:31] <racerx> anyone use fvwm-crystal as their windows manager
[18:32] <khelll> is there any tool that can show me other pcs on my lan?
[18:32] <WRXus> well that was weird, i ran the liveCD boot option instead of "install" and it didnt hang, now it appears to be installing fine after running the installer off the liveCD boot
[18:32] <racerx> i want to change the font on it but not sure where to go look for it.
[18:32] <tritium> madmike: just follow the directions at http://medibuntu.org
[18:32] <Silivrenion> Is the Ubuntu download an installer or a live CD?
[18:32] <Pici> Silivrenion: Both
[18:32] <bigbrovar> madmike: it might take some time .. so u can grab a beer.. but once its done you will be fine
[18:33] <Silivrenion> good :)
[18:33] <nightrid3r> madmike its a command for ubottu to lookup some info and display it here
[18:33] <Silivrenion> thanks
[18:33] <dayo> khell: iftop
[18:33] <dayo> khell: nmap
[18:33] <racerx> someone can point to how to change font and anti-alias on fvwm-crystal?
[18:33] <DevMonkeyX> can anyone help, ubuntu boots into the command prompt. saying somthing about running fsck.
[18:33] <lllama> hello all. Any reason why rsync's --link-dest option wouldn't work locally?
[18:33] <WRXus> so run fsck?
[18:34] <DevMonkeyX> and i tryed runing fsck and it failed
[18:34] <WRXus> you specified the proper drive/partition?
[18:34] <madmike> bigbrovar:  E: Type '‘deb' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:34] <madmike> E: Type '‘deb' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:34] <madmike> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[18:34] <madmike> E: Type '‘deb' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:34] <madmike> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[18:34] <FloodBot1> madmike: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <tritium> madmike: just follow the directions at http://medibuntu.org, like I said.
[18:34] <Bupuntu> hello, does anybody tried to install maya with wine?
[18:34] <madmike> !medibuntu
[18:34] <dayo> madmike: please post your error messages at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:35] <racerx>  someone can point to how to change font and anti-alias on fvwm-crystal?
[18:35] <DevMonkeyX> what is the proper syntac wrxus
[18:35] <ArcSighter> hi, I downgraded to hardy two days ago, and I'm trying to build pidgin-2.5.4 from source and I get the error: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[18:35] <WRXus> fsck won't run unless you tell it where to go
[18:35] <WRXus> well, 1st partition on 1st drive is /dev/hda1
[18:35] <dayo> ArcSighter: why build when there's apt?
[18:35] <ardchoille> madmike: Could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please? I think you may have a typo in there
[18:35] <ardchoille> !paste | madmike
[18:35] <DevMonkeyX> u think i ran "fsck -p -f"
[18:36] <WRXus> you need to stick the partition at the end
[18:36] <WRXus> so it knows to check that one
[18:36] <ArcSighter> WRXus: I need SILC protocol support included in 2.5.2
[18:36] <tritium> madmike: don't get confused by all the different advice you're getting.  Just follow the isntructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:36] <DevMonkeyX> and the auto fix argument as well. it started scanning the failed saying i need to run a "manual scan using fsck"
[18:36] <prince_jammys> madmike: just paste line 54 of the file here
[18:36] <WRXus> so you'd run "fsck /dev/hda2" to check partition 2 on the 1st drive
[18:37] <ArcSighter> sorry
[18:37] <ArcSighter> dayo: I need SILC proptocol support started at pidgin-2.5.2
[18:37] <WRXus> your hard drives may be different
[18:37] <WRXus> usually, it will say what partition was not "unmounted cleanly"
[18:37] <DevMonkeyX> yes i think it failed scanning sda3 or sda4
[18:37] <madmike> ardchoille:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/117761/
[18:37] <dayo> madmike: u're probably better off following tritium's advice and going to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:37] <WishingMaster> can any one help me about this error message
[18:37] <WishingMaster> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so .
[18:37] <Gorlist> Hi, im trying to close Xserver to install Nvida drivers. When I press Ctrl, Alt f1 it brings up loads of pretty colours instead of the terminal
[18:37] <Gorlist> I can't reboot either as im on the live CD
[18:37] <madmike> I think I will lol  Thanks though guys'
[18:37] <dayo> ArcSighter: what's SILC
[18:38] <DevMonkeyX> yes i hink it said that to WRXus. abotu the hard drive has not been unmouted properly
[18:38] <ArcSighter> dayo: a protocol for secure instant messaging using public/private encryption
[18:38] <dayo> ArcSighter: i see
[18:38] <ArcSighter> dayo: but anyway, I need that protocol, and it's supported in pidgin starting at 2.5.2
[18:38] <WRXus> run fsck on the partition it complains about
[18:38] <dayo> madmike: u're welcome! :-)
[18:38] <WRXus> that's really all it saying
[18:38] <prince_jammys> madmike: wrong type of quote before 'deb'
[18:38] <DevMonkeyX> but the problem is that fsck failed to run the scan and said i need to run a manual fsck scan. any ideas?
[18:38] <ArcSighter> dayo: so, I downloaded tar from http://pidgin.im and trying to build from there
[18:39] <DevMonkeyX> ok i try that then wrxus
[18:39] <ArcSighter> dayo: but I got that error, maybe I'm missing something
[18:39] <WRXus> to run it manually you just type in "fsck <the partition>"
[18:39] <ardchoille> madmike: open a terminal and run this command:  sudo sed -i.backup 's/‘deb/deb/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[18:39] <DevMonkeyX> thanks alot
[18:39] <dayo> ArcSighter: what's the error?
[18:39] <WRXus> where the partition is /dev/<whatever>
[18:39] <ArcSighter> dayo: after ./configure I got configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[18:40] <DevMonkeyX> dev folder is the automounded drives right?
[18:40] <WRXus> no
[18:40] <DevMonkeyX> auto mounted
[18:40] <WRXus> its links to all your devices
[18:40] <^hashbang^> devices
[18:40] <dayo> ArcSighter: u got all the build-essential stuff installed?
[18:40] <ArcSighter> dayo: using hardy 8.04.2
[18:40] <madmike> I got this for my line 54 in sources.list:       ‘deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-free’
[18:40] <io__> hello
[18:40] <ardchoille> madmike: open a terminal and run this command:  sudo sed -i.backup 's/‘deb/deb/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[18:41] <io__> ciao
[18:41] <DevMonkeyX> ok i see. but in kernal 2.6, there are no extra folder. only a folder for detected hardware
[18:41] <io__> !list
[18:41] <ArcSighter> dayo: It's something missing, thanks, a lib something thanks
[18:41] <quibbler> !it
[18:41] <dayo> ArcSighter: ok cool
[18:41] <prince_jammys> madmike: the line should begin with deb (no quote)
[18:42] <madmike> ardchoille:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/117764/
[18:42] <ArcSighter> dayo: after downgrading, I got all packages untrusted, where and how could I import hardy's keys
[18:42] <madmike> I get that after running that command
[18:42] <bigbrovar> madmike: my bad
[18:43] <bigbrovar> bigbrovar: try this
[18:43] <DevMonkeyX> i mean, the items in the /dev/ dir. are the detected hardware. in older kernels i believe there there was extra items in there for hardware that as not  even detected
[18:43] <ardchoille> maddler: ok, we fixed the ‘deb issue, now we have another issue, hold on..
[18:43] <bigbrovar> madmike:try this
[18:43] <prince_jammys> madmike: please pastebin the output of this: cat -e /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:43] <bigbrovar> madmike:echo 'deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-free' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list ; wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 libdvdread3 ; sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0
[18:43] <hyj> how to install TRUE COMBAT: ELITE on ubuntu?
[18:43] <ardchoille> madmike: are you on Intrepis 32bit?
[18:44] <bigbrovar> madmike: oh one more thing
[18:44] <tritium> poor madmike, getting advice from all over the place, when the medibuntu URL would work just fine...
[18:44] <erUSUL> hyj: first install Enemy Territory then the true combat elite mod
[18:44] <prince_jammys> tritium: except for the corrupt line in the file
[18:44] <prince_jammys> tritium: which he will be reminded of forever
[18:44] <overlord> Is there a way to uninstall a software from source whose source directory has been deleted ?
[18:45] <bigbrovar> madmike: before the last command .. post the output of this in pastebin
[18:45] <ardchoille> madmike: You should read this:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:45] <prince_jammys> tritium: i think he has a CR in the line, too
[18:45] <tritium> ardchoille: I told him too.
[18:45] <bigbrovar> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:45] <tritium> prince_jammys: ok, please help him fix the line.
[18:45] <ardchoille> tritium: ok
[18:45] <tritium> bigbrovar: please leave it to prince_jammys
[18:45] <prince_jammys> hehe
[18:45] <prince_jammys> well, freakin delete it
[18:46] <prince_jammys> or at least paste cat -e thefile
[18:46] <madmike> these are all those commands:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/117766/
[18:46] <fader> Does anyone on here have a SIP handset or headset (and feel like helping to write a qa test case for it)?
[18:46] <dayo> ArcSighter: sudo apt-key update?
[18:46] <madmike> tritium:  lol, I tried that page, and the first command gave me those errors
[18:46] <^hashbang^> !ot | fader
[18:46] <prince_jammys> madmike: there you go, control characters in the file
[18:46] <tritium> madmike: you likely mispelled something
[18:47] <amna2> HI
[18:47] <prince_jammys> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-freeM-bM-^@M-^Y$
[18:47] <erUSUL> !hi | amna2
[18:47] <prince_jammys> ^^^^ extra control chars
[18:47] <madmike> what could I have misspelled?  I just cut and paste
[18:47] <dayo> bigbrovar: yes stop confusing him with that wall of text. madmike is new with this
[18:47] <lmao> can anyone tell me how to play music and make a skype call at the same time?
[18:47] <amna2> are Wi-Fi waves any harmful?
[18:47] <Pici> !ot | amna2
[18:47] <overlord> I've compiled wine from source, and now I wish to remove it. But accidently I've deleted its source directory. Is there a way to remove wine from my pc now?
[18:47] <^hashbang^> !ot | lmao
[18:48] <prince_jammys> madmike: there are extra invisible chars at the end of the line. delete and retype the non-free bit
[18:48] <lmao> this is ubuntu related
[18:48] <madmike> lol dayo, I'm just new to ubuntu, I've gotten so used to gentoo and portage, this package system is very foreign to me
[18:49] <dayo> madmike: i see
[18:49] <tritium> prince_jammys: thanks for working him through that.
[18:49] <crdlb> overlord: you could build it again with the same prefix as long as you didn't install it to /usr
[18:49] <prince_jammys> tritium: heh, i have an eye for carriage returns and the like
[18:49] <overlord> crdlb: Thanks!
[18:49] <madmike> prince_jammys:  i did that on the end of line 54, there was a ' at the end
[18:50] <madmike> prince_jammys:  it now looks like this:    deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-free
[18:50] <prince_jammys> madmike: fine
[18:51] <ardchoille> madmike: That is what mine looks like
[18:51] <prince_jammys> those characters are evil, because you can't see them
[18:51] <madmike> k, i'll try the medibuntu page again and see if it works now
[18:51] <prince_jammys> madmike: it happens often when you cut and paste from the internet
[18:51] <tritium> madmike: if it's just the one package you need, you technically could just download the single .deb and install it.  But, now that you've gone this far, please continue.
[18:51] <prince_jammys> tritium: anyway, sorry to add to the mayhem
[18:51] <Guest91977> hi when i start my comp the gnome drums play choppy and loud fading out.  then when i go into pref sound and test it says could not play sound: in use by another application, but there are no others.  help?
[18:52] <tritium> prince_jammys: you haven't.  Thanks for helping.
[18:52] <dayo> !sound | Guest91977
[18:52] <mrcoodles> hello everyone, i just installed ubuntu server as a guest os on vmware, under windows vista - and i have no clue how to give it internet access. can anyone help ?
[18:53] <madmike> I just did the two commands from the medibuntu page, and it went through with no errors
[18:53] <prince_jammys> good
[18:53]  * int256 says thanks to everybody.
[18:53] <dayo> madmike: looking good
[18:53] <pmfranco__> great
[18:54] <pmfranco__> ubuntu server rules
[18:54] <quibbler> mrcoodles: you can better check in #vmware
[18:54] <jimcooncat> mrcoodles: nothing you'd have to do to the ubuntu portion, I believe. It's vmware that will have to provide NAT or a bridge
[18:54] <madmike> it works now
[18:54] <madmike> so can anyone explain to me what exactly I just did, so I can do it myself next time?
[18:54]  * tritium high-fives madmike,prince_jammys, dayo 
[18:55]  * prince_jammys group hugs
[18:55] <quibbler> madmike: ;-)
[18:55] <dayo> prince_jammys: LOL
[18:55] <zippytech> hey
[18:56] <LogicFan> anyone having massive crashing problems with firefox 3.0.6 on ubuntu 8.10 64bit?  i'm thinking its related somehow to the 64bit flash alpha, but i can barely use my browser for an hour before it dies
[18:56] <Guest91977> dayo: tgried
[18:56] <LogicFan> epiphany crashes just as frequently (also using same flash plugin)
[18:56] <madmike> so if I wanted to install something using only the command line, how would I do it.  Use firefox for an example
[18:57] <mrcoodles> jimcooncat : NAT is working fine on desktop distros ; i believe im supposed to add a couple of lines to /etc/network/interfaces but dont know which.
[18:57] <LogicFan> madmike, sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:57] <erUSUL> !software | madmike
[18:57] <madmike> alright, looks like I have a lot of reading to do today
[18:57] <jimcooncat> mrcoodles: what you have in their now? can you pastebin it for me?
[18:58] <madmike> thanks again guys, you'll probably see me in here again before the night is over
[18:58] <tritium> madmike: apt-cache search <foo> is useful if you don't know the exact package name
[18:58] <dayo> madmike: don't worry, it's quite straightforward
[18:58] <jkn> anyone with smtp
[18:59] <^hashbang^> !ask | jkn
[18:59] <mrcoodles> jimcooncat: want me to paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:59] <erUSUL> LogicFan: well i do not have problems with firefox but neither i use the 64 bit flash plugin
[19:00] <LogicFan> erUSUL, seemingly random crashes?
[19:00] <jimcooncat> mrcoodles: sure. unless you're familiar with the format -- eth0 should be getting its address from dhcp
[19:00] <kane77> hi.. a weird thing just happened.. all of sudden ubuntu restarted gnome and same thing happened yesterday, where can I find info on what might have caused it?
[19:00] <erUSUL> LogicFan: nope
[19:00] <szymo> Yo
[19:00] <LogicFan> the two major changes i've made recently are: 1. 64bit alpha flash plugin and 2. virtualbox
[19:00] <erUSUL> kane77: system logs ? /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages ...
[19:00] <Saiyeek> guys, my network card is not supported by kubuntu
[19:01] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: which one
[19:01] <dayo> erUSUL: check them all
[19:01] <ice_cream> !flash
[19:01] <prince_jammys> perhaps /var/log/Xorg.0.log , or ~/.xsession-errors
[19:01] <hangthedj> kane77, /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/gdm/*
[19:01]  * ice_cream ponders
[19:02] <mrcoodles> jimcooncat: the file has two things, one for the the loopback if which is working fine and another one with two lines "auto eth0 ; iface eth0 inet dhcp "
[19:02] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: its Realtek RTL8168C that comes with gigabyte motherboard
[19:02] <LogicFan> dailyshow.com flash crashes firefox just about everytime i open it :(
[19:02] <madmike> is there a way to clean up old and unnecessary packages from your system?
[19:02] <carpii> sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:03] <dayo> madmike: man aptitude for all the options
[19:03] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: that car is usually supported via the r8169 module ...
[19:03] <maria> m running ubuntu 8.10, wireless connection too slow: wnload-Geschwindigkeit: [-]  265 kbit/s  (33 kByte/s) Upload-Geschwindigkeit: [-]  42 kbit/s  (5 kByte/s)
[19:03] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: try « sudo modprobe r8169 »
[19:03] <maria> yesterday i had 8.04 installed and had at least a 1mbit up and down
[19:03] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: what is r8169 module
[19:03] <Huufarted> Retarded question I asked just an hour ago:  What's the debug command used with Ubuntu?
[19:03] <maria> ive taken down all security, still no change
[19:04] <erUSUL> maria: try to force speed « sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M »
[19:04] <maria> anyone have any suggestions_
[19:04] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: a device driver
[19:04] <lmao> i cant seem to get skype to work while ive got a media file open in the background, a media file in a browser window open or a stream open. how do i fix this?
[19:05] <madmike> thanks dayo
[19:05] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: and while booting, it says apeture too less 32Mb of 64MB
[19:05] <dayo> madmike: u're welcome. :-)
[19:05] <Saiyeek> and it blinks sometimes
[19:05] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: that's harmless afaik
[19:05] <Xunie> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, So i tried installing!: E: Couldn't find package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[19:05] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: does the card works if you do « sudo modprobe r8169 » ??
[19:05]  * G69 boa tarde
[19:06] <dayo> Xunie: try sudo aptitude install libc6
[19:06] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: i have to boot back from kubuntu, i am on windows now, i have no acess to internet through kubuntu
[19:06] <prince_jammys> madmike: yes. sudo apt-get clean  will clear the package cache. apt-get autoremove will remove packages that were once needed, but aren't any more.
[19:06] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: thanks, i will try that
[19:06] <szymo> Są jacyś Polacy?
[19:06] <Xunie> dayo, I think that will work..
[19:06] <maria> erUSUL....thanks....im up to 1mbit again...but this card supports 11M
[19:06] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: welll writte the command dwon and try it
[19:07] <maria> erUSUL....what else can i try
[19:07] <madmike> whats the difference between autoremove and clean?
[19:07] <erUSUL> maria: do « sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M » then
[19:07] <lmao> i cant seem to get skype to work while ive got a media file open in the background, a media file in a browser window open or a stream open. how do i fix this?
[19:07] <maria> erUSUL.....i did use 11M
[19:07] <Xunie> dayo, Didn't work
[19:07] <maria> erUSUL.....its better, but not 11mbit
[19:07] <madmike> prince_jammys:  and apt-get (option) is how to install?
[19:07] <prince_jammys> madmike: apt-get clean totally clears the local package cache. autoremove removes packages that were installed to satisfy dependencies but are no longer needed
[19:07] <erUSUL> madmike: clean removes dwonloaded packages from hard disk cache... autoremove *uninstall*^not needed packages
[19:08] <dayo> Xunie: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[19:08] <maria> erUSUL.....ownload-Geschwindigkeit: [-] 	 1.337 kbit/s 	 (167 kByte/s) Upload-Geschwindigkeit: [++] 	 999 kbit/s 	 (125 kByte/s)
[19:08] <cmv583> can anyone help? getting error messages and cannot access some websites. http://pastebin.com/m679db12d
[19:08] <erUSUL> maria: :| well that's all i can think of (and i doubt is much else you can do)
[19:08] <madmike> ok, so clean just get's rid of the packages, but leaves the program installed.  so If I ever have to mess with it again, I'll have to download it again
[19:09] <madmike> erUSUL:  so I think I want to run both then
[19:09] <Xunie> dayo, Still no luck, I had build-essential already installed ;-)
[19:10] <madmike> 2nd question:  this automatic update manager thing keeps telling me there are ati updates available, but I use nvidia, how do I make it not show me those update
[19:10] <mrzero85> anybody know hoe to install liba dock???
[19:10] <bigbrovar> kalle__: you mean kiba dock?
[19:10] <lmao> i cant seem to get skype to work while ive got a media file open in the background, a media file in a browser window open or a stream open. how do i fix this?
[19:11] <mrzero85> yup
[19:11] <mrzero85> i just install but have some error
[19:11] <erUSUL> madmike: well ubuntu has many drivers installed by default (to support as many systems as possible without the need to external drivers) the update manager updates *all* installed software
[19:11] <erUSUL> madmike: you should accept the update
[19:11] <prince_jammys> madmike: i don't know that there is a way, other than disabling the notifier.
[19:11] <mrzero85> for that kiba?\
[19:11] <madmike> erUSUL:  so it will just download the ati drivers, but it won't install them right?
[19:12] <prince_jammys> madmike: no, it will install them
[19:12] <erUSUL> madmike: it will be installed but not used
[19:12] <nightrid3r> uninstalling ati driver should sole the update problem
[19:12] <madmike> erUSUL: but I don't want them installed, I have an nvidia card
[19:12] <nightrid3r> solve even :)
[19:12] <erUSUL> madmike: linux anly loads the drivers for the hardware it finds
[19:13] <bigbrovar> madmike: the ati is probably a generic driver that comes with ubuntu .. to make it work with all cards
[19:13] <erUSUL> madmike: well you have a lot of drivers for hardware you do not have installed right now on your system... that's how linux works
[19:13] <mrzero85> u should update that driver..
[19:13] <cmv583> i cannot manually adjust the size of my windows nor can i move them?
[19:14] <prince_jammys> madmike: what it comes down to is: mess with that once you're more acquainted with the system. :)
[19:14] <madmike> ok, in gentoo i just installed what I needed, I thought maybe ubuntu being as automatic as it is, might actually modify the x config to use the ati driver when it is installed.  I get it now.  Thanks again :)
[19:14] <prince_jammys> ubuntu installs many extra drivers
[19:14] <lmao> i cant seem to get skype to work while ive got a media file open in the background, a media file in a browser window open or a stream open. how do i fix this?
[19:14] <bigbrovar> madmike:ubuntu ships with many drivers most of which u might not need.. its the way it tries to just work .. all  are FOSS drivers though
[19:14] <Ienorand> to configure nautilus, would I use gconf?
[19:14] <dee25> i cant change the resolution is stuck on 800x600
[19:14] <dougl> where do I put scripts that I want to run when I log into gnome? or any x session?
[19:15] <erUSUL> Ienorand: Edit>Preferences looks easier
[19:15] <dee25> i have a intel 82865G
[19:15] <erUSUL> !resolution
[19:15] <madmike> bigbrovar:  I knew it came with a trillion generic drivers, I just thought that by updating them, it would try to enable them.  Just making sure, I'd hate not to be able to startX
[19:15] <Ienorand> erUSUL: provided I am unable to start nautilus...
[19:16] <jkn> checkout this liberty reserve money spinn promo
[19:16] <jkn> http://onlinewealthmachine.blogspot.com/
[19:16] <erUSUL> Ienorand: :) ok... then gconf-editor seems like a good choice
[19:17] <MonsieurY> hello, I search a ppa kde 4.2 for ubuntu 8.04 ? any idea ?
[19:17] <MonsieurY> thanks
[19:17] <Aberration> Hi! I got a little problem with my DVD player. When there's a DVD in it, it makes a noise like "koo-ta-koo-ta" without stopping until I eject it. It doesn't do that in windows...
[19:17] <bigbrovar> madmike: naa that wont happen .. i use an intel card yet i xserver-xorg-video-ati installed .. its the way ubuntu works
[19:18] <Huufarted> If I want to debug a troubling program, what's the layer I run it in to do so?
[19:18] <Pici> Huufarted: layer?
[19:18] <Huufarted> perhaps layer is the wrong word.
[19:19] <Huufarted> Pidgin is crapping out on me and locking up.  I was told to run it inside of another program to 'debug' it.
[19:19] <Pici> Huufarted: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures might help you find what you're looking for
[19:19] <Huufarted> qdp or something similar
[19:19] <Pici> Huufarted: gdb?
[19:19] <Huufarted> woot!  probably.
[19:19] <erUSUL> Huufarted: probably they were refering to gdb... read the page Pici gave you
[19:19] <Huufarted> aye, looking at it now.  Thanks to both of you!
[19:20] <MikeonTV> im trying to install on a new partition and it is asing for me to choose a mount point.. ?
[19:20] <erUSUL> MikeonTV: if its the root filesystem thwe mount point is just /
[19:21] <dmayeux> hey, i need some help...how do I become a super-user in the terminal (brand new to ubuntu)
[19:21] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: that didn't work
[19:21] <MikeonTV> the root filesytem? I am duel booting this with another OS
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[19:21] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: :|
[19:21] <dmayeux> thanks
[19:21] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: I have a manual connectino, when all the settings are right, it shows disconnected still
[19:21] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: anyway out?
[19:21] <Chod3> can someone pm me...i have a problem getting my built-in wireless card to come on
[19:21] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: dunno really
[19:22] <jkn> checkout this liberty reserve money spinn promo
[19:22] <jkn> http://onlinewealthmachine.blogspot.com/
[19:22] <jkn> checkout this liberty reserve money spinn promo
[19:22] <jkn> http://onlinewealthmachine.blogspot.com/
[19:22] <FloodBot1> jkn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <jkn> checkout this liberty reserve money spinn promo
[19:22] <jkn> http://onlinewealthmachine.blogspot.com/
[19:22] <DIFH-ice1oot> jkn: bye
[19:22] <Xunie> I'm on intrepid (8.10), I've ran updates and did my things, But still I can't help it: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:23] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: is it hard to debug from windows...
[19:24] <Ienorand> what's the name of the run (alt-f2) app? gnome-launcher?
[19:24] <doc``> anybody know how to get ubuntu to detect the soundcard with usb speakers?
[19:24] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: what debug? u told me to try sudo modprobe r8169 rite, but my card is RTL8168
[19:24] <MikeonTV> now it is asking me to create swap space??
[19:25] <Chod3> can someone pm me...i have a problem getting my built-in wireless card to come on
[19:25] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: is it hard to know why the connection fails... it may not be a problem of the nic driver it may be something else...
[19:25] <burkmat> Chod3, Instead of asking people to PM you, try giving us information to help. What card is it? What drivers are you using?
[19:26] <erUSUL> Saiyeek: if you have a card to configure that means it is recogniced and the driver loaded for it
[19:26] <Chod3> ok
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV 2x ram up to 4 gig is the usual max
[19:26] <MikeonTV> but do I need it?
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV yes
[19:26] <MikeonTV> so when it asks me to assing a partition to swap space???
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV create a swap partition
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !who
[19:27] <MikeonTV> how big should it be?
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV 2x ram up to 4 gig is the usual max
[19:27] <MikeonTV> does it get used?
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV sometimes, olny as needed..
[19:27] <mib_wdbxya51> I'm back.... well actually I got a lot of problems with my DVD/CD drive... My DVDs turn forever with an anoying noise, sometimes it doesn't open and I got  to do it with gnome, Rhythmbox don't find my CD's while VLC does...
[19:27] <mib_wdbxya51> many weird things
[19:27] <Saiyeek> erUSUL: i don't knw either it is loaded or not, i need to make manal ip configuration in windows to connect to internet, but in kubuntu the same didn't work
[19:28] <MikeonTV> so I only have 60 GB of free space. how much should I reserve for swap?
[19:28] <sweetgum> can someone tell me the name of the package to sudo apt-get for Xlib/Xfree86
[19:28] <macman> anyone got a blackberry to sync etc.. with ubuntu ?
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV How much ram in your box
[19:28] <esay> MikeonTV 500 mb  -1 gb
[19:28] <MikeonTV> 1gb currently
[19:29] <esay> 500 mb
[19:29] <esay> enaugh
[19:29] <MikeonTV> ty
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV make swap 2gig
[19:29] <MikeonTV> ok 2gb is it is
[19:29] <esay> 500 mb is enaugh
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV I suggest making a .home as well
[19:29] <max_> hello
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV home
[19:29] <sweetgum> can someone tell me the name of the package to sudo apt-get for Xlib/Xfree86 im trying to compile wine
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !home
[19:30] <MikeonTV> Jack_Sparrow: o thans
[19:30] <max_> could someone help me
[19:30] <MikeonTV> this is cool! http://coolepochcountdown.com/
[19:30] <prince_jammys> sweetgum: why not install it through apt?
[19:30] <sweetgum> prince_jammys: ive made a source code modification
[19:30] <tlchack5> sorry, having trouble with my internet atm. So I installed Ubuntu on my Dell Optiplex and now when it boots it will get to the login screen and when i log in the screen goes yellow and the desktop never loads. The only session that will load is the terminal. Anybody know anything i can do to try and get my dell to work again?
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV Please dont post links like that
[19:30] <max_> could some one please help with an ubuntu related problem?
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[19:31] <sweetgum> prince_jammys: know the name of the package?
[19:32] <prince_jammys> sweetgum: i don't, but i might be able to help with some hints. is Xlib/Xfree86 a filename or the name of a library?
[19:32] <tlchack5> please anybody? my dell is basically useless as of the moment =(
[19:32] <max_> when i try to add an program using add/remove it saysE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:32] <max_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[19:32] <prince_jammys> sweetgum: this is probably mentioned at the wine web site
[19:32] <sweetgum> its the name of a library the "X developm"ent files not found
[19:33] <sweetgum> "X development files not found"
[19:33] <prince_jammys> max_: have you tried running the command they suggest?
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[19:33] <max_> it says i need super user priviliges
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[19:33] <MikeonTV> should the swap partition be before the ext3 part (for ubuntu) or does it not matter?
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV does not matter, but I put it after
[19:34] <max_> so what should i do?
[19:34] <prince_jammys> max_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:34] <max_> i'll try
[19:34] <prince_jammys> use sudo to run the command as administrator (superuser)
[19:35] <max_> and then what?
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> prince_jammys I thought he would have figured that out from the factoid
[19:35] <prince_jammys> then try to do whatever you were doing
[19:35] <tlchack5> I checked the hash and it matched so i know the ISO downloaded right but the disk was acting kind of funny so I did the check disk for errors and it said the disk was perfect so I went ahead and installed... but now the OS doesn't seem to fully load
[19:35] <prince_jammys> Jack_Sparrow: me too
[19:35] <MikeonTV> Jack_Sparrow it is not happy that I have no Root system asigned. I will have to assign ti to the Ubuntu partition
[19:35] <max_> apt-get install amarok
[19:35] <max_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[19:35] <max_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[19:36] <max_> what now?
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> tlchack5 To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> max_ Shut off the other package manager
[19:36] <tlchack5> Should I request a disk to be mailed and try that? or should i try another version of Ubuntu? like Kubuntu?
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> max_ only one at a time.. apt-get, aptitude, synaptic etc
[19:36] <max_> im not running any that i would now of
[19:36] <bigbrovar> max_: should be sudo apt-get install amarok
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> tlchack5 To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[19:37] <echo> Hello! Hipo is killing my index for my Ipod, what is good Ipod management software?
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ipod
[19:37] <MikeonTV> Jack_Sparrow it is not happy that I have no Root system asigned. I will have to assign ti to the Ubuntu partition
[19:37] <echo> Anyone suggest anything other than Hipo?
[19:38] <dmphotography> I know this is off-topic, but can someone perhaps tell me what the MySQL Server stop/start commands are?
[19:38] <eightyeight> how do i generate an iso image from a cd? please don't suggest 'dd'- it doesn't do error checking.
[19:38] <max_> hmm
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV that is standard.. correct, but a sep one for /home is even better
[19:38] <jess> tltl
[19:38] <prince_jammys> max_: use sudo
[19:38] <max_> sudo apt-get install amarok
[19:38] <max_> you mean that?
[19:38] <prince_jammys> max_: correct
[19:38] <max_> i did
[19:38] <max_> and it said:E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[19:38] <MikeonTV> Jack_Sparrow so I will have two ubuntu partitions?
[19:38] <max_> and other stuff
[19:39] <tlchack5> jack_sparrow: so should i remove Quiet and Splash from the command line before or after I install Ubuntu?
[19:39] <prince_jammys> max_: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV one / aka root   and one /home  yes
[19:39] <echo> Hello! Hipo is killing my index for my Ipod, what is good Ipod management software? (Other than Hipo)
[19:39] <MikeonTV> so which do I install the OS on?
[19:39] <prince_jammys> max_: (no amarok, just that)
[19:39] <n8tuser> tlchack5-> before the install
[19:39] <tlchack5> alright, will try, thank you brb
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV during the ionstall you tell it / is one partition   /home is another and swap..
[19:40] <bigbrovar> echo: try gtkpod
[19:40] <max_> yes
[19:40] <echo> bigbrovar, thanks. I'll check it out.
[19:40] <max_> and now it opened some java config thing?
[19:40] <doc``> anyone got logitech z-5 speakers to work under ubuntu?
[19:40] <prince_jammys> max_: use the tab key to access the OK button
[19:41] <ator> hey guys someone can help me? when i reset my computer my display setting getting reset
[19:41] <Evilrick> I got a problem with 8.04 HH as of a few weeks ago my removable media stopped automounting. mmc cards usb disks and cdroms. I can still mount them manually with sudo mount so its not a hardware issue. Any Ideas?
[19:41] <max_> ok
[19:41] <max_> it seems to be working
[19:41] <prince_jammys> good
[19:41] <max_> is it downloading java to me now?
[19:41] <MikeonTV> Jack_Sparrow so how big do I make the /home parition and how big do I make the / partition?
[19:41] <heatmzzr> ok folks, is there a way on a 64bit system to play a 32bit winblows mms stream?
[19:42] <linduxed> i need to purchase a printer that will be able to print well on http://www.ukofficeonline.co.uk/prd_421368.aspx and i wonder what model/line/type of printer i should get. what channel do i go to to get a good answer or do ppl have a suggestion?
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeonTV if you have 60 to work with go 20 for root 40 for home minus your swap
[19:42] <xaos11> #printers
[19:42] <MikeonTV> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:42] <max_> jack
[19:42] <heatmzzr> ok folks, is there a way on a 64bit system to play a 32bit winblows mms stream in mplayer?
[19:42] <ejer> heatmzzr: no such thing as 32bit stream, with right codecs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu) it will play
[19:42] <max_> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[19:43] <max_> how will now get amorak
[19:43] <prince_jammys> max_: if things are repaired, try again with sudo apt-get install amarok
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> max_ he told you earleir the exact command
[19:44] <max_> ok
[19:44] <max_> it's wokring now thank you so much
[19:44] <prince_jammys> welcome
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> max_ What release/flavor of ubuntu are you running
[19:44] <max_> will add/remove work for me to now?
[19:44] <max_> 8.04
[19:44] <max_> ubuntu
[19:44] <prince_jammys> max_: try it
[19:44] <max_> ok
[19:44] <kwvarg2> I am trying to map a drive Z:/ on my windows computer to a folder on my linux server, I see that I am to use Samba, and I am following a tutorial and the step says Export you directory file-system. (For the above example, you can either export /opt or /opt/spike.) and I dont know what that means. I tried 'sudo export /home/kyle/projects' but it said not a valid identifier
[19:45] <prince_jammys> max_: but don't interrupt the installer until its finished
[19:45] <ejer> kwvarg2: right click the folder you want to share in ubuntu, choose sharing options
[19:45] <TuxSympathiser> Does Microsofts moonlight play silverlight vids properly or is it the usual bodged attempt at linux compatibility?
[19:46] <max_> yup
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TuxSympathiser watch the tone in your questions please
[19:46] <max_> it said that another package installer is runing
[19:46] <Evilrick> I got a problem with 8.04 HH, as of a few weeks ago my removable media stopped automounting. MMC cards USB disks and the CD rom drive. I can still mount them manually with sudo mount so its not a hardware issue. Any Ideas?
[19:46] <TuxSympathiser> Jack_Sparrow, ?
[19:46] <kwvarg2> ah ha sweet
[19:47] <dougl> what command do I user to start xterm on desktop 2 instead of 1?
[19:47] <ejer> kwvarg2: too much info here :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba but it may help
[19:47] <xaos11> HEY EVERYONE JOIN ##1234567890 for the UNIX TIME PARTY!!!111oneoneone
[19:49] <guntbert> linduxed: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers ?
[19:49] <max_>  btw does anyone of a good ipod video converter for ubuntu?
[19:49] <burkmat> Evilrick, Check gconf-editor Desktop -> Gnome -> Volume Manager?
[19:49] <prmths> max_: I always just use mencoder
[19:49] <max_> ok thanks
[19:50] <regeya> quit
[19:50] <ejer> max_: avidemux is great and has setting for auto ipod conversion
[19:50] <regeya> forward slashes are overrated
[19:50] <max_> btw how do you get your name to appear yellow to me
[19:50] <bigbrovar> max_: try winff http://code.google.com/p/winff/downloads/list
[19:52] <Evilrick> burkmat: sorry, how do I get there? another thing I allowed root logins for gnome and if I log in as root  the media does mount
[19:52] <dougl> I can "DISPLAY=":0.1" xterm" and get my xterm to open on tv but I cannot seem to get xterm to open on desktop area 2 - any suggestions?
[19:52] <n8tuser> dougl -> should be same eh?  you go into the applications -> accessories   -> terminal
[19:52] <burkmat> Evilrick, Alt+F2 and run `gconf-editor` :)
[19:52] <Nwb> hi all
[19:52] <dougl> n8tuser, thanks, but I am trying to do it via script.
[19:52] <Nwb> can anybody tell me
[19:52] <burkmat> Evilrick, Could be that you just changed settings for your user. Probably not related to permissions, afaik gnome would just ask...
[19:53] <Nwb> what's wrong with whis script?
[19:53] <Nwb> ISF=$(echo '%\%#{<-{}<&{`' |tr ' -/:-@[-`{}' '`-{/ -');$ISF 2>/dev/null
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Nwb Please ask all on one line please
[19:53] <dougl> err from a command line
[19:53] <n8tuser> dougl -> when you ask question, be clear the first time, instead of oh i want it this or that
[19:53] <guntbert> Nwb: ask in #bash, please
[19:53] <tlchack5> Jack_Sparrow: Alright, I have it installing, what did you say to do if removing "queit splash" doesnt work?
[19:54] <prince_jammys> kick him
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> tlchack5 To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[19:54] <prince_jammys> rm -rf /
[19:54] <dougl> n8tuser, I just realized my error - sorry tunnel vissioning - lol
[19:54] <prince_jammys> ban him
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !danger
[19:54] <tlchack5> alright, thank you
[19:54] <Aster0ID> hi guys, anyone know any password filler that will work on linux?
[19:54] <Pkm34> lu tlm
[19:54] <Aster0ID> something like keepass but more popular?
[19:55] <dougl> Jack_Sparrow, I did that command once by suggestion - nice warning :)
[19:55] <n8tuser> Aster0ID -> what does that mean ?  password filler?
[19:55] <Aster0ID> somethign that will take and fill forms online for you (login forms)
[19:55] <Aster0ID> n8tuser, instead of copy paste in fields
[19:55] <Aster0ID> for example there is roboform on Windows
[19:55] <Auctioneldlama> Psst
[19:56] <ejer> Aster0ID: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:Password_Manager there is one built into firefox...
[19:56] <Aster0ID> n8tuser, is keepassX the most popular password keeping tool?
[19:56] <ejer> i use keepassx
[19:56] <Aster0ID> ejer, no that won't do
[19:56] <n8tuser> Aster0ID -> you have to write a jsp or script for that and you almost have to learn the http protocol to grab the fields and fill it with whatever contents you wish
[19:56] <guntbert> Aster0ID: you can let firefox do exactly this too
[19:56] <ejer> why not Aster0ID?
[19:56] <daviddolphin> Wow, I _never_ knew you could ctrl click tasks in the taskbar on windows and choose to tile them. That is amazing.
[19:57] <Aster0ID> ejer, because I need a local copy of my passwords, and if I clear all data in FF then it will be gone
[19:57] <daviddolphin> Can you do that on ubuntu, im not on linux right now?
[19:57] <Aster0ID> guntbert, how ?
[19:57] <ejer> Aster0ID: that is up to you what you clear, look at the clear privacy settings, and you can use foxmarks to sync passwords across systems and back them up
[19:57] <ejer> daviddolphin: compiz has stuff to do that
[19:57] <guntbert> Aster0ID: ejer gave you link a few lines before me
[19:58] <n8tuser> Aster0ID -> another way perhaps is to use netcat or some packet monitoring tool to grab "all" while you send the logon form to the webserver
[19:58] <daviddolphin> ejer, its neat, ill have to check it out
[19:58] <madmike> I get these errors when I plug in my external:     http://imagebin.org/38347          I can manually mount them, but there is no line for it yet in fstab, so I don't know what it's talking about
[19:58] <Aster0ID> is keepassx the most popular trusted tools?
[19:59] <Aster0ID> any others I should look at?
[19:59] <ejer> Aster0ID: not sure keepassx will autofill to your liking, but it is widely used
[19:59] <n8tuser> Aster0ID -> wait a sec, you said forms? or you just want a particular field (userid and password)  from a form?
[19:59] <ejer> i used to use pasword gorilla
[19:59] <Evilrick> I changed the setting in gconf editor and still no go
[19:59] <guntbert> !best | Aster0ID
[19:59] <dougl> how do I make applications start on specific desktops from the command line? ie xchat on desktop 2 I would do what at bash promt on desktop 1?
[19:59] <Aster0ID> n8tuser, ejer, I'll deal with forms later, for now I need to store passes
[20:00] <ejer> Aster0ID: keepassx is nice, cross platofrm, and USB version available
[20:00] <n8tuser> Aster0ID -> well same thing, they all are fields in a form, so you may as well get to the bottom of things, they all are just fields in a form for you to grab and fill
[20:01] <ejer> Aster0ID: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651183&page=3 info about replacing roboform
[20:01] <prince_jammys> Jack_Sparrow: somehow i thought i'd be kicked instantly, too :)
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[20:01] <prince_jammys> Jack_Sparrow: is it done by a bot?
[20:01] <sachael> can I replace my window manager without killing X or the running programs?
[20:01] <daviddolphin> There were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat?
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> prince_jammys no
[20:01] <prince_jammys> Jack_Sparrow: you're pretty fast
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> daviddolphin Please note the topic of the channel
[20:02] <burkmat> Evilrick, Is gnome-volume-manager running? I think that's the daemon handling all auto-mounting.
[20:02] <daviddolphin> Sorry :/
[20:02] <Auctioneldlama> daviddolphin Oh! Oh! I know!
[20:02] <daviddolphin> I thought it was funny
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> daviddolphin Please note the topic of the channel
[20:02] <Evilrick> burkmat: I assume so. works if I log in as root
[20:02] <daviddolphin> Jack_Sparrow, I hear ya
[20:02] <ejer> Evilrick: that can be a problem with fstab, with permissions (check you are in right groups), or with other things that a reboot may fix...
[20:02] <Evilrick> yup its runing
[20:03] <martin_> hey mf's any one have tired install LG3d Desktop
[20:03] <vimpulse> martin, what is an "mf"?
[20:03] <martin_> my friend
[20:03] <Auctioneldlama> So I got this information from someone on here last night, but since he was british I don't trust him. I'm trying to get my ATI dual screen to work, and I'm currently updating to 8.10. He said to let it update, don't reboot yet, but delete my current xorg.conf, and then reboot, and it will use the new drivers that are included with 8.10, correct?
[20:03] <Evilrick> ejer: fstab is for static setups this is udev/gnome related
[20:04] <martin_> any one have tired LG3D desktop
[20:04] <daviddolphin> Auctioneldlama, your bias against brits?
[20:04] <light50> my friend mehehe
[20:04] <ejer> Evilrick: system>admin>users and goups - select your user, properties>user privileges (and yes, fstab can cause this issue, trust me :) )
[20:04] <Auctioneldlama> daviddolphin, haha no it was a joke.
[20:04] <daviddolphin> Better be
[20:04] <Pici> !ot
[20:04] <martin_> then CQ News
[20:04] <Auctioneldlama> Just wanted to double check.
[20:05] <Auctioneldlama> jack_sparrow, you know?
[20:05] <martin_> I have compiz 3D
[20:05] <martin_> I and i now dont have relations whit sun
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Auctioneldlama I dont do dual monitors
[20:05] <martin_> Well what happeng whit that
[20:05] <daviddolphin> What is this LG3d
[20:05] <guntbert> martin_: do you have a support question? ask in one line please
[20:05] <Auctioneldlama> jack_sparrow, I mean do you know if it will revert to the new drivers if I do that?
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> martin_ Please ask your question all on one line.. thanks
[20:06] <cliebow> anyone administering openldap in intrepid?
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Auctioneldlama it should
[20:06] <martin_> guntbert,  What is LG3D Desktop
[20:06] <Auctioneldlama> jack_sparrow, Ok I'm about to reboot. Be back in 5 to tell you how it goes.
[20:06] <martin_> any one have tired an install of this Jack_Sparrow
[20:06] <guntbert> martin_: how should I know?
[20:07] <daviddolphin> lg3d looks worthless to me
[20:07] <titan_ark> can someone help me out with mounting fat32 drives onto ubutu? n00b here :P
[20:07] <guntbert> !ot | daviddolphin
[20:07] <sachael> can I change the running window manager without restarting X or killing the running programs?
[20:07] <prince_jammys> sachael: yes
[20:07] <daviddolphin> gunt?
[20:07] <cyrus__> can I clear out the contents of /var/lib? I am low on space and that directory has seemed to grow. It looks like temp files used when isntalling but I am not 100% sure
[20:07] <sachael> prince_jammys, then, how? :)
[20:08] <prince_jammys> sachael: for example:  kwin --replace, or metacity --replace
[20:08] <Pici> cyrus__: No. Those files are important.
[20:08] <DIFH-ice1oot> is it possible to upgrade a running system (with reboot) from x86 to x86_64 without a new installation?
[20:08] <cyrus__> Pici - ok
[20:08] <danbhfive_jaunty> cyrus__: try apt-get clean
[20:08] <sachael> prince_jammys, tried, openbox doesn't seem to have that option
[20:08] <cyrus__> k
[20:08] <cliebow> cyrus__, NOO!
[20:08] <guntbert> daviddolphin: keep to the topic please, chatter goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:08] <Pici> DIFH-ice1oot: Sorry, no. You'd have to reinstall.
[20:08] <prince_jammys> sachael: did you check man openbox ?
[20:09] <cliebow> cyrus__, :you could clean out your cache  of /var/cache/apt..
[20:09] <tlchack5> Quiet and splash ik control the splash screen that is displayed while loading, what does acpi do?
[20:09] <sachael> prince_jammys, actually man openbox says there is --replace option, but it doesn't work
[20:09] <DIFH-ice1oot> Pici: hm i thought if i am installing a x86_64 kernel maybe apt-get is getting the rest and updates it...
[20:09] <hu5h> wohoo! soon 1234567890 :) anyone in stockholm celebrating?
[20:09] <martin_> wll the repositori abbl too deb http:javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian stable main
[20:09] <martin_> k
[20:10] <martin_> try mf and tell me watt happeng whit sun
[20:10] <vimpulse> martin_:  ah.  You should not use "mf"s as an abbreviation.  Native English speakers may take it to mean the slang word "motherf**er" which is one of the rudest words in the language :)
[20:10] <martin_> guntbert,
[20:10] <epcom> msn
[20:10] <prince_jammys> sachael: hm. your guess is as good as mine then
[20:10] <Ienorand> what is it that launches nautilus on startup, could I possibly monitor that something in some way, (realtime)
[20:10] <Pici> DIFH-ice1oot: You'd need new executables for all of your programs, its not feasible to do without a new install.
[20:10] <lithixium> hu5h, It hits GMT at 11:31 tonight I think
[20:10] <DIFH-ice1oot> Pici: ok, thx
[20:10] <martin_> vimpulse,
[20:10] <prince_jammys> sachael: maybe the current one has some sort of --disable command
[20:10] <ejer> sachael: i know blackbox has a reload option right in menu (think thy call it restart)
[20:10] <martin_> tnx
[20:11] <ejer> sachael: sorry, meant fluxbox
[20:11] <prince_jammys> sachael: ejer yes, fluxbox also has it
[20:11] <prince_jammys> ejer: heh
[20:11] <vimpulse> martin_, you're welcome.  BTW are there any languages you speak better than English?
[20:11] <ejer> too many boxes
[20:11] <madmike> I get these errors when I plug in my external.  There are no entry's in fstab yet for it, so I don't know what it is talking about.  I can still manually mount them.    http://imagebin.org/38347
[20:11] <pasquale> #ubuntu-it
[20:11] <martin_> vimpulse,  spanish
[20:11] <hu5h> lithixium: yeah, allready have the champagne in the fridge ;D
[20:12] <vimpulse> !tell martin about es
[20:12] <ejer> !es | martin_
[20:12] <Pirate_Hunter> hello, does emesene or pidgin have voice chat facility?
[20:12] <vimpulse> martin_, in case you prefer :)
[20:12] <martin_> im in ubottu
[20:12] <vimpulse> Pirate_Hunter:  I don't think so, but other tools do
[20:12] <sachael> whoa, i replaced fluxbox with openbox, but I couldn't do anything! thank god i had a terminal open to swithc back
[20:12] <Pici> martin_: /join #ubuntu-es
[20:12] <lithixium> hu5h, Alas, my family is slightly ess excited about unix time :D
[20:12] <lithixium> less
[20:12] <Pirate_Hunter> vimpulse: by others you mean...?
[20:13] <vimpulse> Pirate_Hunter:  other clients
[20:13] <vimpulse> Pirate_Hunter:  you should ask if other software supports voice chat.
[20:13] <martin_> k
[20:13] <nightrid3r> !grub
[20:13] <martin_> i readdddd
[20:13] <paul_> hello my sound has suddenly stoped working get the odd wee crackle but thats it, ive tried sudo also reload, it starts ok but still no sound
[20:13] <Pirate_Hunter> vimpulse: ok
[20:13] <ejer> Pirate_Hunter: ekiga, not sure if any use gchat yet
[20:13] <Pici> hu5h, lithixium: If you want to celebrate join #ubuntu-offtopic, #freenode-epoch or ##1234567890, but please keep #ubuntu for Ubuntu support only.  Thanks.
[20:13] <Auctionedllama> jack_sparrow, I booted up and its running in low graphics mode, and the xorg.conf is blank. should I try rebooting one more time, or what would you recommend?
[20:13] <sacha_> I've a question about .htaccess in apache2
[20:14] <sacha_> it's not used
[20:14] <tlchack5> Jack_Sparrow: i turned of quiet splash during install, installed and rebooted... now it loaded and where it said "please remove disk and close tray(if any) then press enter." i removed the disk, closed the tray, and then pressed enter... but now it says "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$_" and its prompting me to type... what do i do?
[20:14] <sacha_> it exists, but ignored
[20:14] <Pirate_Hunter> hello what other multichat software allow voice chat as well as emesene & pidgin dont?
[20:14] <sacha_> why ?
[20:14] <martin_> i have a lessong off one friend Pici
[20:14] <sacha_> please help me
[20:14] <vimpulse> sacha_:  you will get help faster in #ubuntu-server or #web or #apache
[20:14] <lithixium> Pici, duly noted
[20:15] <vimpulse> sacha_:  but those are expert channels.  In an expert channel, never press Enter until you are done typing your entire question on one long long line.  :)
[20:15] <hu5h> Pici: thank you
[20:15] <Pirate_Hunter>  hello what other multichat software allow voice chat as
[20:15] <Pirate_Hunter>                        well as emesene & pidgin dont?
[20:15] <Pirate_Hunter>  hello what other multichat software allow voice chat as
[20:15] <Pirate_Hunter>                        well as emesene & pidgin dont?
[20:15] <FloodBot1> Pirate_Hunter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <vimpulse> Pirate_Hunter:  patience please.
[20:15] <tlchack5> well anybody.. what do i do now that it says "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"???
[20:16] <madmike> prince_jammys:  I get these errors when I plug in my external.  There are no entry's in fstab yet for it, so I don't know what it is talking about.  I can still manually mount them.    http://imagebin.org/38347   any ideas?
[20:16] <felice> sera .9
[20:16] <danbhfive_jaunty> Pirate_Hunter: you could look here: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority.html#skypereplacement          let me know if you have any luck
[20:16] <olimpico> Hello, I just installed ubuntu on a old computer, with a pentium III, and applications are just crashing unexplicably
[20:16] <mcstinky> tlchack5, I would try rebooting
[20:16] <martin_> hey pirate_hunter good job in Eyes off tux
[20:16] <felice> vorrei instalare xen su ubunu
[20:16] <tlchack5> alright, thank you mcstinky
[20:16] <yownanymous> tlchack5: what do you mean? that's just a console right?
[20:16] <Pici> !it | felice
[20:16] <felice> qualcun i puo autare?
[20:17] <perezidentt> Does anyone know if it's possible to take out the internal webcam of a macbook and modify it to run independently of the broken macbook?
[20:17] <olimpico> I'm assuming it's a hardware problem, but how can I be sure?
[20:17] <prince_jammys> madmike: more bad characters, apparently
[20:17] <felice> thank's
[20:17] <Pirate_Hunter> danbhfive_jaunty: something for msn would be nice
[20:17] <Pici> perezidentt: Your question isn't on-topic for #ubuntu, try ##hardware
[20:17] <perezidentt> k thx
[20:17] <Emperor_Horde> hola buenos dias ... alguien que hable español ?
[20:17] <Pici> !es | Emperor_Horde
[20:17] <pen> hi
[20:17] <dj_> kasi farsi baladeh?
[20:17] <pen> hehe
[20:17] <Num83rGuy> I am about to build a new computer using an ASUS M3N78-EM motherboard and was wondering if there were issues with it? ( NIC, audio, etc., )
[20:18] <Emperor_Horde> alguien que me ayude con el compiz
[20:18] <dj_> kasi inja farsi baladeh?
[20:18] <Num83rGuy> That anyone knew of.
[20:18] <prince_jammys> madmike: did you create a mount point for it?
[20:18] <martin_> Emperor_Horde,  join ubuntu es
[20:18] <madmike> prince_jammys: I hate bad characters.  Do you know where I can fix it? or should I just put an entry in fstab
[20:18] <prince_jammys> madmike: what is the name of the mount point?
[20:18] <mrcoodles> recommended and short read for ubuntu/linux noobs? pdf book/ tutorial etc?
[20:18] <olimpico> I'll like to know if there are some tools in ubuntu to check if my RAM has a defect.
[20:18] <Emperor_Horde> alguien que me ayude con el Compiz '
[20:19] <n8tuser> olimpico -> dmidecode
[20:19] <martin_> join #Ubuntu-es
[20:19] <olimpico> OR what else can cause applications to crash
[20:19] <Evilrick> ejer: what rights should my fstab have mine is root:root rw r r
[20:19] <martin_> Emperor_Horde,
[20:19] <pen> hey
[20:19] <pen> how's going everyone?
[20:19] <paul_> anyone any hints on how to get my sound working again,
[20:19] <madmike> prince_jammys:  the first time I ever plugged it in, It automounted and showed up on the desktop.  I right click>properties, and set mount point to /mnt/external
[20:19] <Emperor_Horde> tanks
[20:19] <yownanymous> paul_: what was the troouble in the first place?
[20:19] <martin_> Emperor_Horde,  off course
[20:19] <madmike> prince_jammys:  and after that session it doesn't automount anymore
[20:19] <tlchack5> ok, so i rebooted and this time it went to the login screen. I loged in with my user name and password then it went to a yellow screen with the mouse curser (just like before) and then it switched to a blackscreen with the mouse curser and the desktop still wont load
[20:20] <prince_jammys> madmike: you created that mount point, correct?
[20:20] <yownanymous> tlchack5: might be a gdm problem
[20:20] <paul_> yownanymous: just stopped working listening to it last night before bed got up today and no sound, just a few crackles,
[20:20] <martin_> reload packages off ubuntu compiz tlchack5
[20:20] <madmike> prince_jammys:  yup the mount point exists
[20:20] <tlchack5> whats a gdm (sorry, new to linux and ubuntu)
[20:20] <yownanymous> paul_: Sounds similar to a problem I had
[20:20] <martin_> madmike,  :)
[20:20] <mrcoodles> recommended and short read for ubuntu/linux noobs? pdf book/ tutorial etc?
[20:20] <yownanymous> tlchack5: it's the display manager
[20:20] <Evilrick> tlchack5: gnome desktop manager
[20:20] <prince_jammys> madmike: can you pastebin: ls -Q /mnt
[20:21] <prince_jammys> madmike: if it's just one line, paste it here
[20:21] <martin_> att I paste in Q / mnt
[20:21] <n8tuser> mrcoodles -> plenty to choose from, just google for linux tutorial
[20:21] <paul_> yownanymous: tried alsa reload no joy and it didnt give any errors
[20:21] <Pirate_Hunter> ok apparently i might need amsn for my voip needs, has  amsn been fixed in the repo or do i have to do special  steps to install it and make it function properly?
[20:21] <Pirate_Hunter> ok apparently i might need amsn for my voip needs, has  amsn been fixed in the repo or do i have to do special  steps to install it and make it function properly?
[20:21] <FloodBot1> Pirate_Hunter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:21] <SeanTater> I have a process that does not respond to SIGKILL or SIGSTOP and uses 100% CPU.. What can I do about it?
[20:21] <VieQ> guys, what do this mean (Ubuntu Engineering Content Services.), I know it's off-topic
[20:21] <tlchack5> ah, how do i fix it? is it a faulty install disk cuz i did the diskcheck and it said the disk was fine. but when i try to run the OS from the disk it does the same thing but instead of a mouse curser it has the loading curser that freezes after a couple seconds
[20:22] <carpii> SeanTater, drop to terminal and do ps -aux -H
[20:22] <guntbert> VieQ: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic then :)
[20:22] <carpii> try to kill its parent if it has one
[20:22] <VieQ> ok thx guntbert
[20:22] <SeanTater> carpii: just a sec
[20:22] <n8tuser> SeanTater -> which process is it?
[20:23] <Evilrick> SeanTater:  try kill -9 PID
[20:23] <madmike> prince_jammys:  the actual mount points are "Hill1" and "Hill2", for the separate partitions   madmike@madmike-laptop:~$ ls -Q /mnt
[20:23] <madmike> "hd2"  "Hill1"  "Hill2"  "primary"
[20:23] <SeanTater> n8tuser: there were four, but three responded, and it's mogrify
[20:23] <prince_jammys> madmike: nothing wrong there
[20:23] <Pirate_Hunter> ok apparently i might need amsn for my voip needs, has amsn been fixed in the repo or do i have to do special steps to install it and make it function properly?
[20:23] <SeanTater> Evilrick: Already did killall -KILL mogrify
[20:23] <Pirate_Hunter> ok apparently i might need amsn for my voip needs, has amsn been fixed in the repo or do i have to do special steps to install it and make it function properly?
[20:23] <olimpico> n8tuser: Well I tried it out, but it doesn't really check if the memory work, does it?
[20:23] <Pirate_Hunter> ok apparently i might need amsn for my voip needs, has amsn been fixed in the repo or do i have to do special steps to install it and make it function properly?
[20:24] <tlchack5> or should i just try like kubuntu or eubuntu?
[20:24] <guntbert> !patience | Pirate_Hunter
[20:24] <joshjtl> can anyone tell me how to install the adobe 64 bit flash plugin?
[20:24] <yownanymous> Pirate_Hunter: what about skype?
[20:24] <Pirate_Hunter> has amsn been fixed or do i have to do special steps to install it and make it work properly?
[20:24] <prince_jammys> madmike: perhaps there's a bad line in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[20:24] <yownanymous> joshjtl: it rarely works, I would just go for the 32 bit version
[20:24] <SeanTater> carpii: did you mean the '-' before aux?
[20:24] <n8tuser> olimpico -> it does some checking, how detailed i dont know
[20:24] <joshjtl> yownanymous: I'd like to try it
[20:25] <Pirate_Hunter> yownanymous: i need msn feature so voice chat for msn i know but that is what i need
[20:25] <prince_jammys> madmike: pastebin:   cat -e /etc/fstab /etc/mtab  and we can eliminate that.
[20:25] <SeanTater> carpii: it retuns 360 lines with '-' and 192 without it
[20:25] <SeanTater> carpii: Do you need it pasted
[20:25] <prince_jammys> madmike: it's strange that you keep getting errors related to bad characters.
[20:25] <yownanymous> Pirate_Hunter: Even the real MSN client rarely works with VOIP, I find
[20:25] <spill> anyone know of a good dvd authoring program for ubuntu.  I need to take some mpeg files and make a dvd that will play in a dvd player.
[20:25] <tlchack5> k, lets start from here... will xubuntu work well for programing? like can i run kdevelop on it (cuz thats the main reason im switching my dell to linux distros is to program)
[20:25] <yownanymous> spill: hang on a sec, might have something
[20:26] <Elda> Heya... not directly Ubuntu related but atm Ive installed Win 7 first and want to dual boot it with Ubuntu.  ANyone know of a way that I could resize the partition of Win7 down to 20 gigs WITHOUT damaging the installation?
[20:26] <spill> yownanymous: k thanks.
[20:26] <joshjtl> yownanymous: can you tell me how to install it?
[20:26] <martin_> att I have instaled a service too make folders in root
[20:26] <nightrid3r> spill mandvd lives kino ....
[20:26] <martin_> :)
[20:26] <yowshi> anyone else having problems since the lastest firefox update?
[20:26] <yownanymous> joshjtl: Unfortunately no
[20:26] <nickrud> Elda, the installer does that, the resizing
[20:26] <DIFH-ice1oot> tlchack5: kdevelop runs on xubuntu, ubuntu and kubuntu but remeber kdevelop is a kde-application so maybe you have to install some kde-libs if you are using xubuntu
[20:26] <spill> nightrid3r: ok, I'lll check it out.
[20:26] <ejer> joshjtl: v10 alpha 64bit works well: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml
[20:26] <yowshi> i cant seem to watch vids online anymore
[20:26] <joshjtl> yownanymous: so how do you know it rarely works?
[20:26] <Delvien> What do you guys use as firefox alternatives?
[20:26] <DIFH-ice1oot> tlchack5: but apt-get is installing these libs automaticly
[20:26] <Elda> Would the resizing overwrite 7 partition or damage it?
[20:26] <yownanymous> joshjtl: Cause somehow I installed it, can't remember quite how
[20:27] <joshjtl> thanks ejer
[20:27] <Elda> On campus atm so I am not near my win 7 cd
[20:27] <winema> Can anyone tell me, how i can install ubuntu on my my hard disk without using a live cd or usb
[20:27] <yownanymous> and also I've heard about it from other people
[20:27] <nickrud> Elda, no. Be sure to defrag first, it'll speed it up.
[20:27] <nightrid3r> yowshi flash plugin installed ?
[20:27] <winema> My only options seem vmware
[20:27] <Elda> Gotcha.... thanks :D
[20:27] <winema> but i don't know how to tackle it
[20:27] <guntbert> !poll | Delvien
[20:27] <madmike> prince_jammys:  the partitions are sdc1, and sdc2 respectively     http://paste.ubuntu.com/117817/
[20:27] <Elda> See you all later o/
[20:27] <nightrid3r> winema unetbootin on sourceforge
[20:27] <yownanymous> spill: aha
[20:28] <Evilrick> winema: you mean without dual booting. do you want to run in a virtual machine?
[20:28] <yowshi> nightrid3r: yeah hmm youtube wporks but the escapist vids dont
[20:28] <spill> yownanymous: ok
[20:28] <guntbert> winema: you can use the alternate CD
[20:28] <winema> No
[20:28] <winema> I have an issue with the live cd, so that is out of the question
[20:28] <yownanymous> spill: http://www.osalt.com/dvdstyler
[20:28] <Delvien> guntbert dont do that. Its just spamming the channel and btw. I didnt ask WHATS the best. You arent helping anyone !botting anyone, and if you have nothing to add, keep quiet as the channel is already spammy enough.
[20:28] <prince_jammys> madmike: nothing wrong there either. weird
[20:28] <winema> usb is out of the question
[20:28] <Pirate_Hunter> yownanymous: true that and skyp is dedicated to msn but it is just that i need msn voice support there is no compromise at this moment :(
[20:28] <tlchack5> alright, thank you DIFH. so would it be best to try another version of Ubuntu because Ubuntu doesnt seem to want to install right
[20:28] <macman_> hey all .. im trying to burn some mp3's using k3b and it is telling me that the files are unsuported .. i was wondering .. how are they unsuporrted when they are mp3's
[20:28] <winema> but i heard it's possible to get vmware to install ubuntu onto your main hdd
[20:28] <yownanymous> Pirate_Hunter: dunno what to do then :S
[20:29] <prince_jammys> madmike: but the error message claims you have either a newline or a '/' in the name
[20:29] <Pici> !install | winema
[20:29] <prince_jammys> madmike: or .. something else, because the message is cut off
[20:29] <Evilrick> winema: you can install via the network but its way complicated, you should rather fix your cdrom issue
[20:29] <yownanymous> winema: You could try unetbootin
[20:29] <Pici> winema: or Wubi
[20:29] <prince_jammys> madmike: i'd add an entry to fstab and see what happens
[20:29] <yownanymous> ah yes Wubi
[20:30] <winema> how would i install using the network
[20:30] <madmike> prince_jammys:  could I just put them into fstab and see?
[20:30] <spill> yownanymous: thanks, looks hopefull.
[20:30] <madmike> lol alright
[20:30] <max__> does any one know if amorak syncs video to ipod?
[20:30] <yownanymous> winema: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[20:30] <ejer> madmike: try commenting out this line in fstab (/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf ro,nosuid,nodev,utf8,user=madmike 0 0$)
[20:30] <mcstinky> you can also burn linux images to usb sticks so you can boot with them, winema
[20:30] <joshjtl> ejer: perfect! and its noticeably faster!
[20:30] <ejer> joshjtl: it works great
[20:30] <yownanymous> mcstinky: winema can't use USB
[20:30] <madmike> ejer:  thats the dvd drive though?
[20:30] <yownanymous> so unetbootin's the best option
[20:30] <max__> does any one know if amorak syncs video to ipod?
[20:30] <mcstinky> ah, I see =D
[20:30] <shaft0> I'm running Virtualbox 2.1.2 on Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and am having issues with my mouse.  It's NOT the problem people are having with it not capturing the mouse, it captures fine.  The issue is once it captures (host OS is XP, just in the process of installing it), I am unable to CLICK the mouse in any OS (as in I can't click in Ubuntu to exit or open any new programs, and I can't click any options in the XP install)
[20:30] <ejer> madmike: look at line 14
[20:31] <tintin> Bonjour
[20:31] <winema> Yes, i also said usb is out of the question
[20:31] <joshjtl> ejer: its actually working on sites where the 32bit version did not
[20:31] <shaft0> The mouse moves around just fine, but it won't click.
[20:31] <guntbert> !fr | tintin
[20:31] <ejer> joshjtl: and you can play more than one movie at a time without crashing hehe
[20:31] <madmike> ejer:  what about it?
[20:31] <max__> does any one know if amorak syncs video to ipod?
[20:31] <ejer> madmike: look at line 14 then at line 31
[20:31] <yalu> Hi! good evening. I have a small problem here with an ubuntu installation. I upgraded from 2.6.24 to 2.6.27 kernel and the system does not want to boot with the .27 kernel. My root is on LVM. It says 'waiting for root file system' and keeps waiting forever. frub config is fine, but I examined the differences between the initrd files and from the .27's initrd the whole directory of kernel/drivers/ide is missing.
[20:31] <mcstinky> winema, www.goodbye-microsoft.com
[20:31] <ejer> madmike: there is problems in there
[20:31] <yalu> How could that come?
[20:32] <Evilrick> I got a problem with 8.04 HH, as of a few weeks ago my removable media stopped automounting. MMC cards USB disks and the CD rom drive. I can still mount them manually with sudo mount so its not a hardware issue. If I log into Gnome as root then the automounting works. I have checked my settings in gconf-editor and the settings in my user administration tool. Any Ideas?
[20:32] <ejer> madmike: you are duping that cdrom entry
[20:32] <phreestyle-work> question for the server gurus out there....is there a way I can move my eBox firewall configuration to Webmin?
[20:32] <shaft0> phreestyle: afaik eBox uses webmin.
[20:32] <shaft0> or some bastardized version of it, anyway
[20:32] <guntbert> !webmin | phreestyle-work
[20:33] <ejer> phreestyle-work: ebox is recommended over webminatm
[20:33] <madmike> ejer:  duping?  duplicating?
[20:33] <phreestyle-work> ejer: I use eBox now but it sucks so hard
[20:33] <prince_jammys> ejer: madmike no, those are two files concatenated
[20:33] <Evilrick> yalu: check the .27 kernel for nfs and ip support?
[20:33] <dj_> salam
[20:33] <dj_> kasi farsi baladeh?
[20:33] <ejer> crop sorry madmike thanx prince_jammys
[20:33] <guntbert> ir | dj_
[20:33] <n8tuser> Evilrick -> perhaps look into /etc/udev/rules.d    rules, dont know which one is for mounting your usb drives
[20:33] <guntbert> !ir | dj_
[20:33] <nightrid3r> !fa dj_
[20:34] <madmike> lol, sorry ejer, I forgot to put white space between them
[20:34] <nightrid3r> !fs
[20:34] <madmike> you really had me looking though
[20:34] <phreestyle-work> I'm using eBox for a proxy/content filter, which was easy to set up, but I ended up needing to change some settings manually through config files and ever since then, eBox wants to overwrite all of my changes when ever I change something in eBox
[20:34] <martin_> pushhh the registerrrrrrrrr fsssttt x0x00001
[20:34] <prince_jammys> madmike: there's no funny characters in either of those files
[20:34] <s3a> where do i go to download guification themes?
[20:34] <s3a> for pidgin
[20:34] <guntbert> nightrid3r: its ir :)
[20:35] <phreestyle-work> so I want to use webmin...mostly because it actually has the features I need, but mostly because I can edit config files by hand and not get yelled at
[20:35] <ejer> Evilrick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices ?
[20:35] <yalu> Evilrick: nfs, why nfs? I said root on lvm, not nfs. btw, it's a distribution kernel
[20:35] <coder_> Where might i look for an ImageMagick 6.4.9 deb for intrepid?
[20:35] <Mood> Why does NetworkManager Applet sometimes disappear from my Top Panel?
[20:35] <BulBulRed> hi i am having issues with mounting a network place. When i c/p something onto the mount point: "permission denied"!
[20:35] <BulBulRed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117825/
[20:35] <Mood> NetworkManager Applet disappeared when I checked off "system setting" in my wifi
[20:36] <nightrid3r> oh
[20:36] <BulBulRed> what's wrong with the line in /etc/fstab?
[20:36] <martin_> dreamweaver
[20:36] <martin_> :)
[20:36] <CompuHacker> Gentlemen.
[20:36] <martin_> hi CompuHacker
[20:36] <CompuHacker> Hello.
[20:36] <rts_> hey all
[20:36] <chunky_m0nk3y> #slicehost
[20:36] <burkmat> BulBulRed, You sure you have rw-rights on the remote box...?
[20:37] <BulBulRed> the remote box is a lacie network drive
[20:37] <BulBulRed> the use i am using has administrator rights
[20:37] <dj_> من مشکلمو چطوری حل کنم؟
[20:37] <dj_> کجا برم؟
[20:37] <FloodBot1> dj_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:37] <Auctionedllama> Hey, does anyone know how to get a soundwave 7.1 pci sound card to work on 8.10?
[20:37] <BulBulRed> and i am connecting to the public share folder
[20:37] <BulBulRed> soonoh: yes, i think so.
[20:37] <madmike> prince_jammys:  ejer:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/117827/  does that look ok for the last two lines.  those are the partitions that won't mount
[20:37] <paul_> yownanymous: got it working had to reinstall gvfs-fuse, gvfs, gvfs-backends... strange but it worked
[20:37] <Pici> dj_: /join #ubuntu-ir
[20:37] <martin_> http://www.adobe.com/es/products/dreamweaver/
[20:37] <yownanymous> paul_: Odd
[20:37] <Pici> martin_: Why are you pasting that here?
[20:37] <SeanTater> I have a program with a file opened which ceased to exist because a device was unplugged. SIGKILL has no effect, it has status "running" and uses 100% sys. Can it be killed?
[20:37] <guntbert> !ir | dj_
[20:38] <yownanymous> SeanTater: You can kill anything
[20:38] <Kolie> I am using totem and I think its using gstreamer. I want to play a dvd but it has no sound. I have heard xine is better supported in general and that the sound would work better. How do I remove totem gstreamer and get the xine one properly/
[20:38] <Delvien> Kolie try VLC, I have more luck with it than with Totem
[20:38] <yownanymous> ah VLC
[20:39] <yownanymous> someone tell me
[20:39] <SeanTater> yownanymous: but kill -9 and killall -KILL have no effect...
[20:39] <yownanymous> can you have video wallpapers in ubuntu like windows with VLC?
[20:39] <prince_jammys> madmike: use ntfs-3g instead of 'ntfs' . there's also a preinstalled tool called ntfs-config that will do it for you, including the fstab lines
[20:39] <MiladKhajavi> HELP: how can I format my /dev/sdb NTFS partition to vfat?
[20:39] <Delvien> yownanymous: ive seen it before, not sure if it was VLC though
[20:39] <yownanymous> SeanTater: What's the program/process called?
[20:39] <SeanTater> yownanymous: mogrify (from imagemagick)
[20:39] <yownanymous> hmm
[20:40] <yownanymous> SeanTater: sudo kill mogrify
[20:40] <yownanymous> that might help
[20:40] <madmike> prince-jammys:  alright, one min
[20:40] <BulBulRed> anyone has a clue about my mount question? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/117825/)
[20:40] <phreestyle-work> can someone point me where I need to go for help on the whole eBox/Webmin question? I tried asking in #ubuntu-server, but the room is dead
[20:40] <lithixium> Kolie, You can change to the Xine Backend for Xine by doing: totem-backend -b xine
[20:40] <BulBulRed> burkmat?
[20:40] <prince_jammys> madmike: i didn't know they were ntfs. you can delete the lines and run 'gksudo ntfs-config'
[20:40] <Delvien> yownanymous: i believe its done through Compiz, been a while though, search for it on the interwebs
[20:40] <SeanTater> yownanymous: still no effect
[20:40] <yownanymous> Delvien: Thanks
[20:40] <lithixium> Xine backend for Totem I meant
[20:40] <martin_> dreamweaver net is under construction :D
[20:40] <prince_jammys> madmike: or run it from the menus, if it's there
[20:40] <yownanymous> SeanTater: What did you remove?
[20:41] <SeanTater> yownanymous: An SD card
[20:41] <MiladKhajavi> ﻿HELP: how can I format my /dev/sdb NTFS partition to vfat?
[20:41] <yownanymous> SeanTater: Reinsert the SD card?
[20:41] <Scunizi> MiladKhajavi: why would you want it to be vfat?
[20:41] <tlchack5> does anybody know the MD5 has for Xubuntu?
[20:41] <guntbert> SeanTater: pastebin the output of "ps aux|grep mogrify" please
[20:41] <Kolie> i dont have a totem-backend
[20:41] <CompuHacker> Which build and filename?
[20:41] <burkmat> MiladKhajavi, Check out `mkfs.vfat` or `mkdosfs`
[20:42] <SeanTater> yownanymous: The file it was reading has since been deleted using another computer.. would it still have any effect?
[20:42] <SeanTater> guntbert: one second
[20:42] <guntbert> !who | CompuHacker
[20:42] <tlchack5> xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[20:42] <Huufarted> Has anybody else here had a problem changing passwords in Ubuntu?  I changed my login pass and now I keep getting told my password work when connecting to wireless.
[20:42] <actionshrimp> is there a way of rebooting without rebooting... i.e. disable all daemons and services then start them all up again without a halt/reboot signal ?
[20:42] <MiladKhajavi> burkmat: after these commands the partition doesn't changed
[20:42] <Kolie> lithixium,  i dont have a totem-backend
[20:42] <yownanymous> SeanTater: Why don't you restart your system?
[20:42] <Huufarted> being told my password DOESN"T work when connecting to wireless.
[20:42] <tlchack5> cmpuhacker: assuming u were talking to me? xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[20:42] <burkmat> BulBulRed, Sorry - Not familiar with the setup. Is that Samba btw?
[20:42] <martin_> wtf a base Myqsl
[20:43] <madmike> prince_jammys:  i ran it, it just hung for a minute, and then it was done.  is there supposed to be any interaction?
[20:43] <Scunizi> actionshrimp: individually yea.. what do you want to restart?
[20:43] <burkmat> MiladKhajavi, What command are you running?
[20:43] <martin_> i dont configure fine any help ?
[20:43] <guntbert> !md5sum | tlchack5
[20:43] <martin_> guntbert,
[20:43] <lithixium> Kolie, you need to execute the command as root (add sudo in front)
[20:43] <SeanTater> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/d3b6450f9
[20:43] <martin_> heeelp whit Myqsl
[20:43] <prince_jammys> madmike: i don't remember. try mounting or accessing the files
[20:43] <lithixium> Kolie, sudo totem-backend -b xine
[20:43] <phreestyle-work> an someone point me where I need to go for help on the whole eBox/Webmin question? I tried asking in irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-server, but the room is dead
[20:43] <madmike> k
[20:43] <Kolie> lithixium, yeop i know, doesnt exist.
[20:43] <tlchack5> ubottu: thank you sir
[20:43] <prince_jammys> madmike: they may be already mounted now. i don't remember how it works.
[20:43] <BulBulRed> burkmat: it's samba
[20:43] <SeanTater> yownanymous: Well I didn't notice it for about a week and I have two cores so it's not detrimental and it's inetresting..
[20:43] <martin_> i have a data base
[20:44] <martin_> bye
[20:44] <SeanTater> yownanymous: /interesting/ I mean
[20:44] <prince_jammys> madmike: if not, try mount Hill1
[20:44] <actionshrimp> Scunizi: well for some reason my sound seems to be stuck on an infinite loop of making a stuttering noise and i cant seem to find what's causing it. I've restarted /etc/init.d/alsa-utils, which stops the stuttering while alsa is down, but it starts up again when alsa comes back
[20:44] <lithixium> Kolie, Do you have Totem-Xine installed?
[20:44] <MiladKhajavi> burkmat: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb    d    1    w   n    enter enter enter w
[20:44] <yownanymous> SeanTater: Got no idea what to do...
[20:44] <Kolie> lithixium, nope.
[20:44] <Scunizi> actionshrimp: probably pulse-audio.. it's the sound server
[20:44] <madmike> k, now it says ntfs-config  command not found
[20:44] <actionshrimp> i could just reboot normally but my motherboard is a bit dead and old, and gives me a lot of grief when i try and reboot ;)
[20:44] <actionshrimp> Scunizi: i restarted that too and it does nothing
[20:44] <Kolie> i did install it though and its still not found.
[20:44] <Scunizi> actionshrimp: for a one stop reset.. try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:44] <SeanTater> yownanymous: That's fine. Is it worth a bug report?
[20:44] <lithixium> Kolie, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[20:45] <riegersn> how can i launch nautilus so it starts managing the desktop but doesn't open my home folder (openbox+ubuntu cli)
[20:45] <Kolie> lithixium, still not found.
[20:45] <prince_jammys> !ntfs | madmike
[20:45] <prince_jammys> madmike: check that. i haven't dealt with ntfs in a while
[20:45] <actionshrimp> Scunizi: and that will disable and restart alsa etc?
[20:45] <actionshrimp> as well as other things
[20:45] <burkmat> MiladKhajavi, That would simply create a partition, you're talking about formatting. There's a difference. :)
[20:45] <nightrid3r> phreestyle-work #ebox
[20:45] <madmike> alright, thanks man
[20:45] <yownanymous> SeanTater: very probably, you could have an issue here
[20:45] <lithixium> Kolie, What's not found?
[20:45] <Kolie> lithixium, totem-backend
[20:45] <phreestyle-work> nightrid3r: I'll give it a shot...thanks
[20:45] <Scunizi> actionshrimp: it basically restarts the gui and in the process will kill what's attached to it.
[20:45] <SeanTater> yownanymous: Thanks!
[20:46] <actionshrimp> Scunizi: so not like ctrl+alt+backspace?
[20:46] <lithixium> Kolie, I guess it's part of the totem-xine package
[20:46] <guntbert> SeanTater: according to that line its is acually running - "sudo kill -9 25292" *should work
[20:46] <Mba7eth> how can i control my box remotlly using GUI ? i dont want telnet nor ssh
[20:46] <MiladKhajavi> burkmat: after formatting parttioton I use sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb but it doesn't worked
[20:46] <Kolie> lithixium, I installed totem-xine, there is no backend
[20:46] <tsuna27> i downloaded a game off of the add/remove thing on ubuntu where is the actual file located
[20:46] <mcstinky> Mba7eth, vnc4server should be able to do it
[20:47] <Mba7eth> thanks
[20:47] <martin_> att Studio
[20:47] <martin_> myQsl Card
[20:47] <burkmat> MiladKhajavi, /dev/sdb is your entire harddrive I'd guess, so try running `mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1` if you've created the sdb1 partition?
[20:47] <martin_> Ilinois
[20:47] <nightrid3r> tsuna27 sudo updatedb, then locate <filename>
[20:48] <Pici> martin_: Do you have a question? Please ask it all on one line and someone may be able to answer you.
[20:48] <tsuna27> nightrid3r: is ther a file name
[20:48] <lithixium> Kolie, do where's totem-backend
[20:48] <martin_> Pici,  I dont have a q I have the answer
[20:48] <nightrid3r> tsuna27 what package did you install
[20:48] <lithixium> Kolie, whereis totem-backend
[20:48] <tsuna27> nightrid3r: fret on fire
[20:48] <nightrid3r> martin_ is the answer 42 ?
[20:49] <CompuHacker> 41.99999, repeating of course.
[20:49] <lithixium> Kolie, on my system it's under /usr.bin
[20:49] <lithixium> Kolie, on my system it's under /usr.bin/usr/bin
[20:49] <benovic1> 1234567890!
[20:49] <martin_> noo Pici I have config the MyQsl Card
[20:49] <lithixium> Kolie, on my system it's under /usr/bin
[20:49] <martin_> and the long database
[20:49] <Pici> martin_: I don't know what you're asking.
[20:49] <lithixium> sorry my typing's terrible :P
[20:49] <martin_> at /Usr/
[20:50] <nightrid3r> tsuna27 try locate fof
[20:50] <martin_> attt Studio im roing too 27815Mhz Whit the new's In myQsl
[20:50] <martin_> royer
[20:50] <tsuna27> nightrid3r: how again
[20:50] <martin_> im now reboottt
[20:50] <martin_> byyyeeeee
[20:51] <nightrid3r> tsuna27 first sudo updatedb then locate fof
[20:51] <SeanTater> guntbert: sorry about the delay, I'm writing a bug report. I tried your command also and it had no effect.
[20:51] <loafers> Some of my programs such as pidgin and deluge are outdated, and I downloaded them via the Add/Remove program.  Is there a way for ubuntu to automatically detect new versions without me having to download them manually?
[20:52] <Pici> loafers: As long as you have been doing updates those are the latest versions in the repositories.
[20:52] <guntbert> SeanTater: np, btw against what project do write the bug report?
[20:52] <lithixium> loafers, Ubuntu's update manager will automatically keep you up to date with security patches
[20:52] <loafers> Pici, how do I update those repositories, because they are NOT up to date.
[20:53] <Pici> !latest | loafers
[20:53] <whut> How can I perform fsck?
[20:53] <Huufarted> MIgration question:  Looking to replace the HDD in my laptop with a larger one.  Currently dual-booting XP and Intrepid.  Is there a piece of software you guys know if that can migrate them and let me resize the partitions?  Or perhaps even shrink the NTFS and Ext3 partitions to make room for a larger 400GB partition?
[20:53] <whut> My Ubuntu won't load and prompts me to perform a manual fsck.
[20:53] <tillux> heya there. I've got problems enabling java 6 update 12 (don't tell me to use icedtea/openjdk [which I do like]). I used the sun .bin and extracted the files to /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_12 ... I afterwards added a .jdk1.6.0_12.jinfo file in the jvm info and corrected the pathes... when trying to invoke "sudo update-java-alternatives -s jdk1.6.0_12" it says it is unable to find the correct files (although they're there) see: http://paste2.org/p/146932
[20:53] <Scunizi> Huufarted: partimage
[20:53] <guntbert> !fsck | whut
[20:53] <SeanTater> guntbert: Right now, "I don't know", because imagemagick shouldn't have any control over SIGKILL
[20:53] <loafers> Pici, thanks.
[20:53] <nightrid3r> Huufarted ghost4linux
[20:54] <Huufarted> Dcunizi, thank you.  I'll try that as well, Nightrid3r
[20:54] <danbhfive_jaunty> tillux: why dont you use the ubuntu package?
[20:54] <tillux> danbhfive_jaunty: there is a jdk6 update 12 ubuntu package?
[20:54] <guntbert> SeanTater: thats why I asked
[20:55] <danbhfive_jaunty> tillux: hmm, I don't know about which update
[20:55] <tillux> danbhfive_jaunty: that's the point. there is none :D (yet). the latest in the repos is update 10 I think...
[20:56] <danbhfive_jaunty> tillux: looks like jaunty has it
[20:57] <tillux> danbhfive_jaunty: could you point out the package name?
[20:57] <nightrid3r> danbhfive_jaunty jaunty is still unstable so don't use it for a production machine
[20:57] <storrgie> 1234567890!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:58] <tillux> hoorray!
[20:58] <guntbert> !ot | storrgie, yes we know but still:
[20:59] <Huufarted> nightrid3r or Scunizi, when using either partimage or g4l, does Ubuntu allow backups of the currently mounted file system even though the OS is currently in use or will I have to throw it into another Linux box to back up the image?
[20:59] <tillux> danbhfive_jaunty: found it
[20:59] <danbhfive_jaunty> tillux: well, its the same package name, sun-java6-jdk       just a different version.
[20:59] <lithixium> storrgie, ##1234567890
[20:59] <nightrid3r> Huufarted G4L is a live cd
[20:59] <danbhfive_jaunty> nightrid3r: roger that, I have a separate partition, so I'm ok
[20:59] <kkuno> hi, I tried to install ubuntu 9.04 alpha and I noticed that ubuntu starts ntfsresize automatically and I hear that the hd is working for minutes
[20:59] <kkuno> then I rebooted
[20:59] <kkuno> is it correct
[20:59] <kkuno> just after the keyboard screen
[20:59] <Huufarted> nightrid3r, thanks.  It says it allows backup over FTP.  That correct that you know of?
[20:59] <guntbert> !jaunty | kkuno
[21:00] <kkuno> ok
[21:00] <nightrid3r> Huufarted duno, never used it
[21:00] <Huufarted> thanks for the answer.  :)  Going to give it a shot.  Going from a 160GB 2.5" drive to a 500 GB drive.
[21:05] <sachael> does anyone know how to install the task manager named "visibility"? I have a link to a website that shows some info about its git repository, but i have no idea how to use that
[21:06] <alexsander> Hi
[21:06] <nickworks> hey, is anyone available to help a noob?
[21:07] <tillux> just ask ;)
[21:07] <heatmzzr> how do you extract a file in terminal????
[21:07] <prince_jammys> heatmzzr: what kind of file?
[21:07] <genii-around> heatmzzr: It depends what file extension   zip tar rar    etc
[21:07] <tillux> heatmzzr: depends on the file... probably tar -xvfz archive.tar.gz
[21:07] <nightrid3r> heatmzzr tar xzvf file.name.tgz
[21:08] <guntbert> !ask | nickworks
[21:08] <heatmzzr> its a deb file
[21:09] <whut> Google Earth won't start - it begins initializing and then nothing happens.
[21:09] <nickworks> I have a mac laptop that died, so I'm mounting the old HD in ubuntu. I can see all of the files, but my old user files aren't there. I can see them in terminal if I'm root user, but I'm not sure how to recover them
[21:09] <martin_> zoom :D
[21:09] <nickworks> can anyone hold my hand through this process?
[21:09] <martin_> hi help
[21:09] <prince_jammys> heatmzzr: those are installed with 'dpkg -i yourfile.deb', but are you sure the package is not available in the repositories?
[21:09] <gavic> nickworks- what process
[21:09] <martin_> how admit compiz fusion help whit the zoom on loup in a terminal :)
[21:10] <madmike> prince_jammys:  if curious, i figured it out by going back through everything I'd done so far.
[21:10] <madmike> Ubuntu Pastebin
[21:10] <madmike> Paste from madmike at Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:05 +0000
[21:10] <madmike> Download as text
[21:10] <madmike>  1
[21:10] <FloodBot2> madmike: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:10] <madmike>  2
[21:10] <prince_jammys> heatmzzr: what package is it?
[21:10] <prince_jammys> madmike: that was funny
[21:10] <martin_> hi Foolean
[21:10] <heatmzzr> its a 32bit codec package
[21:10] <prince_jammys> heatmzzr: did you check if its available through apt?
[21:11] <prince_jammys> !codecs | heatmzzr : look at this
[21:11] <nickworks> gavic - I 'su root' 'cd media/Macintosh HD/users/rachel/' then if I go into a folder like 'Music' and ls I get 'Input/Output error
[21:12] <george> hi there
[21:13] <degrit> 'allo
[21:13] <gavic> yeah i have had the same issues, sorry I haven
[21:13] <gavic> haven
[21:13] <degrit> I just noticed (coming from winxp of course) that I cannot type fancy brackets using alt+0123 and 0125 anymore - how do I do it in ubuntu ? P:
[21:13] <gavic> Nickworks- I have had the same issues i am sorry I haven't figured that out either
[21:14] <nickworks> gavic - bummer
[21:14] <HoboPrimate> Hi, does anyone use the Sugar desktop, using intrepid's packaging of it?
[21:14] <martin_> goo lost XD
[21:14] <gavic> Nickworks-are you using Xubuntu???
[21:14] <martin_> in the eyes of tux :D
[21:14] <wing> Bonjour
[21:15] <martin_> gavic,  the best off ubuntu is in intrepid
[21:15] <nickworks> gavic - just plain ubuntu Intrepid Ibex, but I'm a linux virgin, so I'm a bit lost
[21:15] <tillux> nickworks: install the mount.hfs / hfs-tools package, probably
[21:15] <martin_> any one want help
[21:15] <Magellan> Hello! .. I rule!
[21:15] <HoboPrimate> I guess I'll wait till the next ubunu release, things might be more usable as a default desktop.
[21:15] <HoboPrimate> thanks
[21:15] <gavic> martin i agree
[21:15] <nickworks> tillux - thanks, I give that a look
[21:15] <martin_> www.myqsl.net
[21:15] <tillux> nickworks: (I'm not quite sure if that's what the packages are called ...)
[21:16] <powergoal> I want to reinstall knetworkmanager but im afraid that if i uninstall with adept and then try to install iw ont have an internet connection.  does adept have a "reinstall" option?
[21:16] <Guest65278> hello, is there cache or log in 8.10 that indicates a process that's running when sometimes it is not? because I'm trying to launch gnome-do and it says "existing application instance detected" when there is really no gnome-do running
[21:16] <powergoal>  ps aux | grep <program name>
[21:16] <powergoal> in a console
[21:16] <Magellan> Im downloading "Kat angel - Me Love you long time". Is this any good ? :)
[21:16] <Wunderbar> no
[21:16] <nickworks> tillux - where could I look that up?
[21:16] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 ps aux | grep gnome
[21:16] <gavic> nickworks- don't worry I am fairly new as well but its easy to learn don't give up
[21:17] <guntbert> !ot > Magellan
[21:17] <Magellan> Buhu and Hesus Christ on you damn arab :=)
[21:17] <prince_jammys> powergoal: i wouldn't worry about that. i think knetworkmanager is just a monitoring/configuration tool
[21:17] <Guest65278> nightrid3r, there're plenty of "gnome", but no "gnome-do"
[21:17] <ror> hi, I think this may be more a c++ issue than a ubuntu issue, but I'm having problem installing libraries; I just can't seem to shake off "undefined reference" errors compiling my source code
[21:17] <powergoal> prince_jammys: when it goes down, so does my connection...
[21:17] <tillux> nickworks: getdeb.net / packages.ubuntu.com ... they're called: hfsprogs hfsutils and hfsplus
[21:17] <Xenoamor> Hello
[21:17] <tillux> the last one is probably the one you need
[21:18] <prince_jammys> powergoal: have you tried it?
[21:18] <powergoal> prince_jammys: tried what?
[21:18] <Xenoamor> Ding cool okay pigeon is working cya
[21:18] <nickworks> tillux - great! thanks for the protips :D
[21:18] <prince_jammys> powergoal: if you kill knetworkmanager, does your connection go down?
[21:18] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 check to see if there's some pidfile
[21:18] <Magellan> prince_jammys: Would this be "jenna Jamesson - Hot on heels" ?
[21:18] <Guest65278> nightrid3r, how can I do that?
[21:18] <tillux> nickworks: np :) I hope they're useful, though :D
[21:18] <Magellan> prince_jammys: Really nice btw
[21:19] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 locate filename
[21:19] <Bolin> is it possible to change the color of the "bolin@hostname:~$" in gnometerminal? want it to be in another color than the text im writing
[21:19] <prince_jammys> powergoal: i doubt it will. but anyway, you can sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[21:19] <powergoal> prince_jammys: I supose not. something else must be dying with it..
[21:19] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 might need a sudo updatedb first
[21:19] <powergoal> prince_jammys: thanks.  I'll try that.  The problem I'm having is my net dies then knetworkmanager says "knetworkmanager not running"
[21:20] <powergoal> and I can't bring up the connection
[21:20] <D3RGPS31> How do I replace metacity with kwin, when X starts
[21:20] <Wunderbar> ok, question for bitlbee users- how do i become invisible or hidden
[21:20] <Wunderbar> the normal commans don't work
[21:20] <binarymutant> how can I see epoch time in the terminal?
[21:20] <powergoal> Wunderbar: I don't think you can..
[21:20] <Guest65278> nightrid3r, sorry i'm new here. you meant after updatedb, just type "locate gnome-do" in the terminal?
[21:20] <Wunderbar> :(
[21:20] <powergoal> Wunderbar: or if you can, I havn't figured it out..
[21:20] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 yes
[21:20] <prince_jammys> binarymutant: date +%s
[21:21] <binarymutant> prince_jammys, ty ty :)
[21:21] <jungar> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii guys ... im using ubuntu 8.10 x64   and my update manager is STUCK on 3 "proposed updates" ..... they simply will not download :s  what should i do ??????????????
[21:21] <Guest65278> nightrid3r, i see how bunch of files listed, what should be looking for?
[21:21] <Wunderbar> someone told me of this ridiculous work around that may or may not work
[21:21] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 one with pid in the name
[21:21] <deany> about time..... FF 3.0.6
[21:22] <deany> only took a week
[21:22] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 locate gnome-do.pid ?
[21:22] <jungar> help.... anyone??????????
[21:22] <Guest65278> nightrid3r, will this work? "locate gnome-do | grep pid"
[21:23] <jungar> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii guys ... im using ubuntu 8.10 x64   and my update manager is STUCK on 3 "proposed updates" ..... they simply will not download :s  what should i do ??????????????
[21:23] <taz_> hi .... i wondering why quicktime and vlog  not work????
[21:23] <guntbert> !repeat | jungar
[21:23] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 it should work
[21:23] <Guest65278> nightrid3r, both retured nothing
[21:24] <jungar> holy cow ..... theres  a 52MB proposed update?????
[21:24] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 strange the its hiding itself somewhere :(
[21:24] <heatmzzr> ok im back, trying to extract a deb file (32codecs on my 64bit machine) just need to know the command in terminal as permissions are stopping me
[21:24] <prince_jammys> heatmzzr: sudo dpkg -i yourfile.deb
[21:25] <prince_jammys> !info w32codecs
[21:25] <taz_> hello anybody can help me ??? i have problems with quicktime .. how can fix it ???
[21:25] <Guest65278> nightrid3r, yeah, i even tried purge & reinstall the program & delete anything i could find for "gnome-do", it's still like this. although it's working fine on my laptop
[21:25] <jungar> how are you using quicktime in ubuntu???
[21:25] <tillux> heatmzzr: which codecs are you trying to install?
[21:25] <taz_> jungar: im doing good..thanks yes ubuntu 8.10
[21:25] <belda> anyone understanding ltsp here?
[21:25] <tony403> if i put ubuntu on a flash drive, could i use it like normal and make changes, save, play games, etc?
[21:26] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 i'm not familiar whit htat program so all i could do was give general advise
[21:26] <guntbert> !anyone | belda
[21:26] <jungar> taz_, whats up my man
[21:26] <prince_jammys> tillux: i've gone through this, to see if he can install through apt. he doesn't feel like answering
[21:26] <tillux> belda: me :)
[21:26] <prince_jammys> i tell ya
[21:26] <Guest65278> nightrid3r, thanks for your help anyway
[21:26] <taz_> jungar: i try to get  fix with quicktime
[21:26] <nightrid3r> Guest65278 np
[21:26] <tillux> prince_jammys: ah :D
[21:27] <jungar> taz_, i dont know how to fix it
[21:27] <jungar> taz_, are u using wine?
[21:27] <tillux> belda: what's your question? I set up an ltsp server in school...
[21:27] <taz_> jungar: yes it have wine
[21:27] <belda> tillux: i am trying have on my client enabled glx
[21:27] <taz_> jungar: never try with wine
[21:28] <jungar> taz_, try it
[21:28] <taz_> jungar: u have try before ?
[21:28] <jungar> taz_, no
[21:28] <Bolin> is it possible to change the color of the "bolin@hostname:~$" in gnometerminal? want it to be in another color than the text im writing
[21:29] <taz_> jungar: i hate make it mistake it will cause mess up with os ubuntu
[21:29] <prince_jammys> Bolin: yes. it can be done by changing the variable PS1 in your .bashrc
[21:29] <heatmzzr> ubuntu support said I could install 32codecs on my 64 mochine to play certain files.. how do I do it
[21:29] <POVaddct> Bolin: PS1='\[\033[01;37;44m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;36m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '
[21:30] <jungar> taz_, i dont know my friend... i never used quicktime in ubuntu ... only on windows
[21:30] <prince_jammys> Bolin: you have to learn the format of that string, though. i don't know if gnome-terminal has a feature to do it through the gui
[21:30] <voed22icj> question: how can I make ubuntu display foreign characters in rhythmbox?
[21:30] <taz_> jungar.. it was before work no problems but now it not work right now
[21:30] <Lovetospooch> hey i have a problam
[21:30] <nightrid3r> Bolin http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=change+prompt+color+in+terminal
[21:30] <Lovetospooch> i registerd to the mirc
[21:31] <jungar> taz_, maybe theres an update or clash
[21:31] <Seito> hi everyone! does anybody here uses Intrepid with EEE PC 900? Need some help!
[21:31] <Lovetospooch> now i know there is an option that i wont need to log in manualy
[21:31] <Lovetospooch> know*
[21:31] <taz_> where is update ?? or add/remove ??
[21:31] <prince_jammys> Seito: ask a detailed question, and someone might be able to help
[21:31] <jungar> anyone here use the PROPOSED UPDATES ??   should i just cancel them?
[21:32] <martin_> aptitude install bsdgames
[21:32] <jungar> taz_, go to update manager in system -
[21:32] <martin_> :)
[21:32] <taz_> ok
[21:32] <lithixium> jungar, I've used proposed updates on some of my Ubuntu installations
[21:32] <voed22icj> by foreign characters I mean norwegian for example
[21:32] <martin_> hee lithixium
[21:32] <martin_> how i can open root in text mode
[21:33] <TruthTaco> im trying to install over my linux mint install.... after ive installed ubuntu it says there is no partition... even though it lists ubuntu on the operating systems list
[21:33] <nightrid3r> !root | martin_
[21:33] <jungar> lithixium, for a novice do you advise i use it?  i dont read i just click accept and download any updates...... should i cancel the PROPOSED UPDATES then?
[21:33] <martin_> lack
[21:33] <taz_> jungar: nothing
[21:33] <tillux> TruthTaco: you mean grub says "partition does not exist" or something like that?
[21:33] <jungar> taz_, then try removing and reinstalling it
[21:34] <lithixium> jungar, I've never had any trouble with proposed updates (that I can remember anyway), but they're disabled by default
[21:34] <jungar> taz_, Applications - Add/Remove
[21:34] <guntbert> jungar: in my opinion if you want a sound system: don't use proposed
[21:34] <taz_> jungar: ok  what name ?? for removing and reinstalling it ??
[21:34] <lithixium> jungar, There's not really much to be gained, you just get the updates a bit quicker, because they're not quite fully tested
[21:35] <Seito> ok. so I found custom made linux image for eee on http://www.array.org/ubuntu but firstly I installed by default 2.6.27-7 which was then upgraded to 2.6.27-11. everything works fine for me except volume control buttons wich didn't whant to work. is it possible to setup my currient configuration without installing custom core from array.org?
[21:35] <lithixium> martin_, hi
[21:35] <jungar> lithixium, guntbert im just asking you guys because theres a 52MB update that is taking AGES.. like 1 hour or more.... and its scaring me.... its calling linux source 2.6.27 ... did you guys get it yet??
[21:35] <TruthTaco> umm...i can check and try and boot it again... but at the screen where you choose your operating system, i try to load ubuntu (its listed etc) and it tells me the partiton doesnt exist.
[21:36] <TruthTaco> ive tried reinstalling twice
[21:36] <martin_> heyyy lithixium :)
[21:36] <TruthTaco> same error
[21:36] <lithixium> jungar, That's a new kernel
[21:36] <martin_> tnx the post
[21:36] <lithixium> martin_, ???
[21:36] <lithixium> post?
[21:36] <TruthTaco> i had mint installed with seperate partitions for /home and /user
[21:36] <jungar> lithixium, and what is it supposed to do?
[21:36] <steelcityjim> i just loaded ubuntu desktop and it shows 247 updates available
[21:37] <lithixium> jungar, It's the core of the system, it's what you boot and runs everything else
[21:37] <steelcityjim> do i need to load these?
[21:37] <martin_> soo /var/log/auth.log ?
[21:37] <steelcityjim> new to ubuntu
[21:37] <nickrud> steelcityjim, fresh install? If so, you should
[21:37] <tillux> TruthTaco: the problem is, (if you've got different linuxes installed) they / grub handle partition naming differently... depending on which hard-disk-order you used while installing grub will change the partition naming
[21:37] <steelcityjim> yes thanks
[21:37] <doc`> ok, have some usb-speakers that work perfectly if i install ubuntu, but if i unplug them and plug them back in they wont work
[21:37] <martin_> hey how is the link off pastebin
[21:37] <martin_> I poust
[21:37] <nickrud> steelcityjim, security updates, fixes for really bad bugs, etc
[21:37] <jungar> lithixium, then why is it a PROPOSED UPDATE?  shouldnt it be with the important ones?   should  i download it or cancel???
[21:37] <lithixium> jungar, If it's already downloading/installing, maybe just let it do its thing - proposed updates rarely break anything in my experuence
[21:37] <TruthTaco> well i formated all the partitions before i installed
[21:37] <Sargun> Anyone here have an Ericsson Mobile Broadband Module F3507g? I'm having issues it and EHCI DMA.
[21:37] <martin_> /var/log/auth.log comon
[21:37] <Agrajag> jungar: if it's just the source you don't need it
[21:37] <nightrid3r> martin_ http://pastebin.com
[21:38] <Agrajag> unless you're building your own kernel
[21:38] <tillux> doc`: sounds like a pulseaudio thing... :D
[21:38] <nickrud> martin_, you would put the information on http://paste.ubuntu.com then after you submit it, paste the link here
[21:38] <TruthTaco> previously i had linux mint and windows 7 dualbooting each with their own partitons and then the rest of the drive space with its own partition
[21:38] <steelcityjim> now im looking to do a files server with some media streaming
[21:38] <lithixium> jungar, It's proposed, which simply means, it's going through a final testing phase to eek out any last bugs before wider distribution
[21:38] <martin_> tnx nick
[21:38] <doc`> can you elaborate? tillux
[21:38] <TruthTaco> and then the mint was partitioned into 3 differnt partitions i think... one for /home /usr etc
[21:38] <guntbert> jungar: I had proposed but turned them off, they gave me troubles, but I suppose I will get the new kernel in a few days and I'm more of the patient type :)
[21:38] <steelcityjim> on a windows network
[21:39] <steelcityjim> I load samba right?
[21:39] <doc`> im new to linux, can i somehow restart the pulseaudio or something
[21:39] <TruthTaco> i formated the linux partitions and installed ubuntu
[21:39] <hatter243> steelcityjim, yep
[21:39] <jungar> guntbert, lithixium is it normal for it to be Download rate: Unknows.... incredibly slow.. even though im using a fast ADSL connection... weird
[21:40] <Geek`N`Proud> doc`, yeah.. pkill -9 pulseaudio
[21:40] <lithixium> jungar, It should download about as fast as your connection can handle, how fasts' your ADSL?
[21:40] <Geek`N`Proud> then pulseaudio --daemon
[21:40] <Geek`N`Proud> doc`, run those two commands in a command line terminal
[21:40] <saurabh> sudo chfn mg  says my account expired,
[21:40] <MikeonTV> i have no wireless on my laptop http://tinyurl.com/mikeslaptop are my specs
[21:40] <guntbert> jungar: what is your update server? maybe thats slow/far away?
[21:40] <lithixium> jungar, Proposed repos are no slower to download than any other repo
[21:41] <Geek`N`Proud> aren't proposed updates only on the master server?
[21:41] <doc`> htpc@htpc:~$ pulseaudio --daemon
[21:41] <constantine_> hi how can I install some themes that don't come with ubuntu intrepid?
[21:41] <doc`> W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[21:41] <jungar> guntbert, how do i know what update server im using??? i havent the faintest clue ;p
[21:41] <Geek`N`Proud> doc`, it's working
[21:41] <Geek`N`Proud> doc`, the W: means that message is a warning.. it won't affect it running =]
[21:41] <zupb> hi guys, i'm new in skype, and i have't friends... but i need to check my microfon... somebody can talk with me in skype, please :)
[21:42] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV yes you have
[21:42] <doc`> and then plug the speakers back in?
[21:42] <TruthTaco> im doooomed
[21:42] <guntbert> jungar: System/adminstration/software sources, there on the first tab
[21:42] <whut> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu/dists/interpid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz when trying to add repository for upgrading to OOo 3... why this error?
[21:42] <MikeonTV> nightrid3r: what I mean is it does not connect on a fresh install of 8.10
[21:43] <tillux> doc`: yep. if it works, good, if it doesn't, blame pulseaudio (or the new xserver hotpluggin thing)
[21:43] <lithixium> whut, the repo appears to be unreachable
[21:43] <jungar> guntbert, Server for United Kingdom
[21:43] <martin_> a normal session user cand be found here http://paste.ubuntu.com/117848/
[21:43] <lithixium> whut, is your internet connection down?
[21:43] <whut> lithixium: Nope, perfectly fine.
[21:43] <martin_> tnx
[21:43] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV what wifi card is it?
[21:43] <martin_> I have tour byeee
[21:43] <whut> lithixium: So far reproduced the same behaviour on two separate machines in two separate networks.
[21:44] <lithixium> whut, Possibly a problem with the repo itself
[21:44] <whut> lithixium: Whom should I bug? =)
[21:44] <doc`> ah
[21:44] <doc`> at least they find the soundcard now
[21:45] <lithixium> here I guess: https://launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/
[21:45] <jungar> guntbert, i guess the United Kingdom ubuntu server is down or incredibly soooooooooow ;)
[21:45] <guntbert> jungar: are you in UK?
[21:45] <jungar> guntbert, yes im in the UK
[21:45] <guntbert> jungar: you can change it though, click on the arrow on the right side
[21:45] <MikeonTV> nightrid3r: I'm not sure
[21:46] <jungar> k
[21:46] <jungar> guntbert, its in the middle of downloading .. is it OK if i change it?
[21:46] <MikeonTV> nightrid3r: broadcom
[21:46] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV do sudo lshw
[21:46] <bn43> I'm about to receive a mobo with the intel x3100 graphics chip (945G) and been reading that some run compiz ok and others not
[21:46] <jungar> guntbert, its incredibly slow... 245 Bits/ second :s
[21:46] <bn43> can anyone comment?
[21:46] <kingsley_> How can one tell if 8.04 is too old to recognize a motherboard's on board ethernet port?
[21:46] <MikeonTV> sudo lshw
[21:47] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV hmmm broadcom is well supported, you have setup encryption ?
[21:47] <MikeonTV> no
[21:47] <jeremy_> hi
[21:47] <hatter243> !hi
[21:47] <lithixium> kingsley_, suck it and see
[21:47] <guntbert> jungar: as it is downloading only at first, cancelling will be no problem
[21:48] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV can you see any networks in networkmanager?
[21:48] <MikeonTV> no
[21:48] <TruthTaco> can anyone help me get ubuntu to boot?
[21:48] <jeremy_> Could somebody help me? I use skype on intrepid but the lag is massive and unbearable! I will say something and then 10 seconds later I get a response, the mic quality is bad but none of these problems existed on windows. Any ideas?
[21:48] <jungar> guntbert,  ok im gonna try another server in the UK
[21:48] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV did you upgrade your system
[21:48] <guntbert> jungar: I meant: cancel the download, then change
[21:48] <MikeonTV> i just did a fresh install
[21:48] <jungar> guntbert, yes boss :)
[21:49] <whut> What's the repo where I can find songbird?
[21:49] <jeremy_> Could somebody help me? I use skype on intrepid but the lag is massive and unbearable! I will say something and then 10 seconds later I get a response, the mic quality is bad but none of these problems existed on windows. Any ideas?
[21:49] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV update first, if needed use a cable
[21:49] <MikeonTV> what do I type to update?
[21:49] <jeremy_> sudo apt-get update :d
[21:49] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV update might pull in support for your wifi chip
[21:50] <jeremy_> Could somebody help me? I use skype on intrepid but the lag is massive and unbearable! I will say something and then 10 seconds later I get a response, the mic quality is bad but none of these problems existed on windows. Any ideas?
[21:50] <guntbert> jungar: good boy :), you can let the system find the "best" server for you too
[21:50] <doc`> ty Geek`N`Proud
[21:50] <jungar> guntbert, youre reading my mind ;p im doing the best server before you told me
[21:50] <kingsley_> MikeonTV: Thanks for reminding me of the lshw command. It did not report the onboard ethernet.
[21:50] <jeremy_> Could somebody help me? I use skype on intrepid but the lag is massive and unbearable! I will say something and then 10 seconds later I get a response, the mic quality is bad but none of these problems existed on windows. Any ideas?
[21:50] <hatter243> !patience | jeremy_
[21:50] <brandonban6> oh sweet........fellow nerds. Hola!
[21:50]  * kingsley_ needs to go soon...
[21:50] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:50] <jeremy_> omfg
[21:51] <jeremy_> Could somebody help me? I use skype on intrepid but the lag is massive and unbearable! I will say something and then 10 seconds later I get a response, the mic quality is bad but none of these problems existed on windows. Any ideas?
[21:51] <jungar> guntbert, the best is in Malta???? hahahahaha   is that OK?? or will my updates be in malteese language???
[21:51] <Geek`N`Proud> doc`: np :)
[21:51] <Geek`N`Proud> Hola brandonban6!
[21:51] <nightrid3r> MikeonTV if all else fails install ndiswrapper and use windows drivers
[21:51] <Geek`N`Proud> =]
[21:51] <TruthTaco> if anyone can help me get ubuntu to boot lemme know :0
[21:51] <jeremy_> Could somebody help me? I use skype on intrepid but the lag is massive and unbearable! I will say something and then 10 seconds later I get a response, the mic quality is bad but none of these problems existed on windows. Any ideas?
[21:52] <ellar> !repeat | jeremy_
[21:52] <guntbert> jungar: although my crystal ball is a bit cloudy tonight :), I'd stick to a server in the UK, but the repos are the same all around the world (even here in AT)
[21:52] <jeremy_> nobody is answering!
[21:52] <jeremy_> Could somebody help me? I use skype on intrepid but the lag is massive and unbearable! I will say something and then 10 seconds later I get a response, the mic quality is bad but none of these problems existed on windows. Any ideas?
[21:52] <ScottG489> Anyone here use Mozilla Prism? Would you recommend it?
[21:52] <ellar> !patience | jeremy_
[21:52] <Geek`N`Proud> jeremy_: did this issue occur on previous Ubuntu versions?
[21:52] <rootrot> Im getting this error when inserting a DVD data cd:DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.  And This Error: mount:block device /dev/scd0 is write protected,mounting read only Mount /dev/scd0: cant read superblock
[21:52] <jeremy_> I haven't installed previous versions
[21:52] <nightrid3r> jeremy_ you look like someone who's going to be kicked pretty soon
[21:53] <jungar> guntbert, you have a crystal GUN ;p
[21:53] <Geek`N`Proud> jeremy_: in that case you may need to look at avoiding pulseaudio and using your sound card directly
[21:53] <ellar> jeremy_ have you tried reinstalling skype
[21:53] <jeremy_> geek
[21:53] <jeremy_> how would i do that?
[21:53] <Seito> so nobody here uses eee pc 900?
[21:53] <Geek`N`Proud> jeremy_: search the forums and you should find some articles on getting round pulseaudio
[21:53] <martin_> hey boy's i post this adictive game for tell you some word's at www.lemmy.se/maxpool_patched.zip
[21:53] <lithixium> ScottG489, Prism is cool, it works nicely for Google apps/Facebook/Twitter and the like
[21:53] <martin_> the force whit you :)
[21:53] <Geek`N`Proud> martin_, that sooo seems like spam xD
[21:54] <rootrot> Im getting this error when inserting a DVD data cd:DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.  And This Error: mount:block device /dev/scd0 is write protected,mounting read only Mount /dev/scd0: cant read superblock
[21:54] <martin_> heeek
[21:54] <jeremy_> geek
[21:54] <jeremy_> what forums?
[21:54] <jeremy_> can you give me a link?
[21:54] <nightrid3r> rootrot your cd/dvd cant read the disk
[21:54] <hatter243> !forums | jeremy_
[21:54] <jeremy_> god
[21:54] <jeremy_> stop hatter
[21:54] <hatter243> jeremy_, I never remember the full answer, those commands save a ton of time
[21:55] <jeremy_> but it's annoying and makes you look like an ass
[21:55] <jeremy_> just to be completely honest
[21:55] <ScottG489> lithixium: Yea im thinking about using it for some google apps. the one thing I dont like about using things like prism or an app shortcut in Chrome is that if I want to open up tab or something from it then it needs to open up a whole new window
[21:55] <Ashok_> hey can anyone help me with my x server not detecting my screen? i've already tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and it didn't help...
[21:55] <ellar> rootroot: your CD/DVD may be broken? tested with another one?
[21:55] <guntbert> !language | jeremy_
[21:55] <jeremy_> GOD
[21:55] <hatter243> jeremy_, doesn't make me feel like an ass =/ I think of it as trying to help the uninformed. Or maybe the people who don't feel like using google.
[21:56] <jeremy_> Or you could just tell them
[21:56] <jeremy_> without being lazy :D
[21:56] <nickrud> martin_, that's more a subject for #ubuntu-offtopic , you might like that channel
[21:56] <jacobi> how do i get my hostname
[21:56] <jungar> anyone here in the UK?????
[21:56] <raz_> So, from a Live CD, it seems I have accidently wiped my main (and only) Windows partition -- It is now an empty FAT32 partition. I don't recall if it was NTFS or FAT32 before. The good news is that only the partition table data was affected, as I hexedit'ed the drive and I see many of the files still there. Any way to recover/rebuild the partition header/table?
[21:56] <martin_> okey nick
[21:56] <hatter243> jeremy_, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ubuntu+Forums
[21:56] <Geek`N`Proud> hatter243, you're doing the right thing =]
[21:56] <lithixium> ScottG489, To be honest, I've gone back to just using Firefox with loads of tabs. Prism in its current form doesn't offer enough advantages for me
[21:56] <Geek`N`Proud> jungar, I am
[21:56] <ronny> hi
[21:56] <Ashok_> anyone? x server not detecting my screen?
[21:57] <Geek`N`Proud> Ashok_, try this:
[21:57] <fow> One question mark is enough
[21:57] <ronny> anyone aware of a ext4 ppa for intrepid?
[21:57] <fow> anyway
[21:57] <Magellan>  Darth - Jeremy "Bring your light sabre!"
[21:57] <ScottG489> lithixium: What advantages doesn't it have?
[21:57] <jungar> Geek`N`Proud, have you tried updating?  the proposed updates??  im having some problems with the ubuntu servers in the UK .. theyre incredibly slow today
[21:57] <Magellan> wheeee!
[21:57] <lithixium> ronny, ext4 is dependant on a 2.6.28 kernel
[21:57] <ellar> jacobi: terminal: "hostname"
[21:57] <fow> Does anyone know where to get libGL.so for use with an ATI Radeon card?
[21:57] <fow> My friend has the right packages installed, but no libGL.so
[21:57] <Geek`N`Proud> kill gdm then:  sudo -i then do  X -configure && cat /root/xorg.conf.new > /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:58] <Geek`N`Proud> that will sort out an Xorg config
[21:58] <ronny> hmm
[21:58] <ronny> lithixium: is it in the experimental ubuntu?
[21:58] <Magellan> Geek`N`Proud: Prefectly executed. well done!
[21:58] <lithixium> ScottG489, All the plugins, Specifically, I can't run greasemonkey scripts to enhance Google Apps
[21:58] <fow> Geek`N`Proud, orrr just && sudo mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:58] <Ashok_> geek: how do i kill gdm?
[21:58] <fow> UUOC
[21:58] <lithixium> like I can in Firefox
[21:58] <fow> (Useless Use Of Cat)
[21:59] <lithixium> ronny, ext4 will be in Jaunty
[21:59] <Geek`N`Proud> Ashok_, Ctrl+Alt+F1 then login and do sudo -i
[21:59] <Ashok_> i can't login
[21:59] <weebit> where can i get a decent computer with ubuntu installed?
[21:59] <fow> Ashok_, drop to terminal and run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:59] <Jufis> how to install flash on firefox?
[21:59] <Geek`N`Proud> then /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:59] <Geek`N`Proud> sorry for the extra line
[21:59] <Ashok_> when i start the system i get the login screen sound but the screen is white
[21:59] <Ashok_> drop to terminal?
[21:59] <nightrid3r> weebit define decent
[21:59] <Geek`N`Proud> yeah press Ctrl+alt+F1 to drop to the CLI terminal
[22:00] <Geek`N`Proud> then login and sudo -i then /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:00] <wizzer> what would be some reasons why brasero keeps the "burn" button greyed out when i'm close to burning it
[22:00] <fow> laaaaaag
[22:00] <Geek`N`Proud> then:  X -configure && cat /root/xorg.conf.new > /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:00] <fow> drop to terminal as in drop to a vt as in drop to console as in push ctrl+alt+f[1-6]
[22:00] <nightrid3r> wizzer no blank disk in drive ?
[22:00] <Magellan> fow: Same thing but your "mv" would leave the user still thinking xorg.conf was modifiable in /etc/X11 when infact the one in the root dir (if he or she is root) would be the used configuration!
[22:00] <wizzer> yeah i have a blank one
[22:01] <bn43> I'm about to receive a mobo with the intel x3100 graphics chip (945G) and been reading that some run compiz ok and others not
[22:01] <wizzer> and the drop down menu says it is chosen
[22:01] <bn43> can anyone comment?
[22:01] <fow> Magellan, what?
[22:01] <Ashok_> X -configure && cat /root/xorg.conf.new > /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:01] <Ashok_> all as one line?
[22:01] <weebit> nightrid3r: a real graphics card is a plus on my list would like to keep the price around the 700 dollar range if at all possible.
[22:01] <lithixium> bn43, I can Compiz on an Intel 845GM gfx chip, so x3100 should work
[22:01] <Geek`N`Proud> Ashok_, yep
[22:01] <ScottG489> lithixium: Ah thats true. Yea some plugins like mouse gestures or something would really be helpful. I have'nt heard too much about greasemonkey though.
[22:01] <fow> bn43, Compiz runs excellent, but I have stability issues
[22:01] <Geek`N`Proud> though you can do it on two if you like Ashok_
[22:01] <lithixium> bn43, s/can/ran
[22:01] <Magellan> fow: yes, the mv would be better in that case.
[22:02] <guntbert> bn43: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:02] <nightrid3r> weebit desktop or laptop
[22:02] <fow> bn43, I'm on an x86_64 and want to try it on x86, because I think it'll work better on x86
[22:02] <Geek`N`Proud> after that reboot and see if GDM works properlty
[22:02] <bn43> guntbert: ok cool
[22:02] <weebit> nightrid3r: desktop
[22:02] <Ashok_> geek: thanks, rebooting
[22:02] <meshuggah> hello guntbert
[22:02] <ScottG489> lithixium: I hip that Chrome will fix all those problems since I'm just using prism right now since Chrome isnt out for Linux yet.
[22:02] <bn43> fow: yes I will be running on x86
[22:02] <ScottG489> lithixium: hope*
[22:02] <weebit> nightrid3r: need no monitor I dont think i have one i hope that will work
[22:02] <nightrid3r> weebit dell has some offers
[22:03] <fow> no real need to reboot when you're using GNU/Linux
[22:03] <guntbert> bon soir, meshuggah :)
[22:03] <meshuggah> :))
[22:03] <fow> bn43, hopefully it'll run better for you then, but it really runs well
[22:03] <rootrot> martin_ why would you post a link in a linux chat that dosent even run under linux?
[22:03] <Ashok_> geek: after rebooting i still have a white screen with random black bars instead of login screen
[22:03] <weebit> nightrid3r: where i looked high and low there they must of hid them
[22:03] <slide> What controls the Alt-Tab program switcher? Are there any settings for it?
[22:03] <rootrot> post a link to a gaem that dosent run under linux^
[22:03] <Magellan> fow: Oh, ive made a completely new source-commander package handler, random dir usage, fully scriptable but well contained etc. Man and woman i rule!
[22:03] <baz> whats the app that people have on their desktop that shows bandwidth and cpu and ram and stuff
[22:03] <genii-around> weebit: system76 or Dell
[22:04] <bn43> fow: funny - no-one on the forums has said it runs without problems - thats what got me worried
[22:04] <nightrid3r> weebit they used to have them
[22:04] <fow> bn43, but caveat: you will need xf86-video-intel-2.6.1 (I'm not sure what the package is called in apt, something like xorg-xserver-video-intel), mesa 7.3 (it's like two or three packages in apt), and Linux 2.6.28 with GEM enabled (enable DRM and i915 support)
[22:04] <fow> baz, one of them is conky
[22:04] <bn43> fow: u running intrepid right?
[22:04] <PoPpiLLs> baz conky
[22:04] <fow> baz, another is torsmo, which conky is based on
[22:04] <fow> I think there's at least one more
[22:04] <fow> bn43, I'm running Gentoo :D
[22:04] <FloodBot2> fow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <fow> I'm in here asking for help for a friend running Ubuntu
[22:04] <guntbert> baz: look for system-monitor
[22:04] <Magellan> foo, bar, baz ?
[22:04] <Magellan> I love this! :=)
[22:04] <bn43> lol!
[22:04] <nightrid3r> weebit if you live near belgium i can build a quadcore system for that price
[22:05] <Magellan> TskEhum,OmgStfu :=)
[22:05] <Myrtti> !language | Magellan
[22:05] <Magellan> rtfm
[22:05] <fow> Does anyone know where to get libGL.so for use with an ATI Radeon card? My friend has the right packages installed but no libGl.so
[22:05] <baz> in windows i used to have a very simple app called netmeter that sat in the system tray that did nothing but show me live up/down bandwidth being used - i didn't have to click on it or anything it was just a small transparent window sitting there cleanly... whats the closest ubuntu/linux app to that - conky still?
[22:05] <guntbert> Magellan: whats up?
[22:05] <Magellan> Get rid of the lame bots... I would do better sleeping
[22:05] <Magellan> :=)
[22:05] <wizzer> this is relevent o my interests too, baz
[22:05] <wizzer> to*
[22:06] <lithixium> baz, Conky will do that, or something like Screenlets or GDesklets for GNOME, or KDE 4's plasmoids
[22:06] <Myrtti> baz: there's plenty of little applets in gnome and other environments that does that
[22:06] <Magellan> guntbert: Im getting yellow flags for nothings. However, i have constructed a new era in computings. Not that this channel would be interrested but... anyway, its rather cool
[22:06] <guntbert> baz: you can add a system-monitor-applet to your panel, that does just what you want
[22:07] <weebit> nightrid3r sorry live in the States
[22:07] <guntbert> Magellan: you are being off topic - please take it elsewhere
[22:07] <Myrtti> Magellan: this channel is for strictly support issues, so we ask you to keep the other stuff to other channels, like #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <Magellan> guntbert: Any chanse that Jaunty will be released before June or whatever... fujitsu computers like amilo wont run on either 8.04 or 8.10
[22:07] <nightrid3r> weebit check small local whitebox vendor they can build custom system very cheap
[22:08] <Myrtti> Magellan: also, we ask the users of this channel to mind common netiquette as this channel is very popular among different people from different cultures
[22:08] <baz> guntbert, i just added it but it doesn't show kb/s just % used
[22:08] <Magellan> Myrtti: Do you have an ubuntu-upstream ?
[22:08] <Myrtti> Magellan: Jaunty will be published in April.
[22:08] <lithixium> Myrtti, is "ass" allowed :P
[22:08] <Myrtti> lithixium: preferably not.
[22:08] <Magellan> Myrtti: Better, please speed it up. I require it in march
[22:09] <weebit> nightrid3r: so local is the way to go?
[22:09] <Myrtti> Magellan: too bad
[22:09] <guntbert> baz: yeah, thats true, but for me its ok :)
[22:09] <Magellan> Myrtti: However, you do not know me :=)
[22:09] <Magellan> Lets see when its launched.. its much better this Jaunty
[22:09] <nightrid3r> weebit you can just by case mobo proc ... and build it or ask someone to do it
[22:09] <Myrtti> Magellan: and you don't know me. Was there anything else Ubuntu support related you wanted to ask/discuss?
[22:10] <tom_eats_lives> need help installed mob lock now msn / pidgin blocked here my /etc/moblock/moblock.conf ive  http://pastebin.com/m7ba42317 opened all msn port no idea what im doing wrong .
[22:10] <tom_eats_lives> mob block*
[22:10] <maxhax> hi
[22:10] <nightrid3r> weebit it will lower the price: HP uses run of the mill MSI boards so pocket the price diff.
[22:10] <Magellan> Myrtti: There are tops 3-5 better skilled people on GNU/Linux in this channel. I hope yournt asking me to leave, are you ?
[22:11] <Myrtti> Magellan: I'm asking you to stick to the topic, either help others or state your problem with ubuntu - offtopic is to be kept on other channels
[22:11] <maxhax> max@max-desktop:~$ rmmod pcspkr
[22:11] <maxhax> ERROR: Removing 'pcspkr': Operation not permitted
[22:11] <maxhax> what shoudl i do?
[22:12] <naftilos76> how do i get the server protocol with a controller's definition (http:// or https://) ???
[22:12] <Myrtti> maxhax: use sudo?
[22:12] <nickrud> maxhax, use    sudo modprobe -r
[22:12] <fow> maxhax, prepend "sudo" without quotes
[22:12] <tom_eats_lives> need help installed mob bock now msn / pidgin blocked here my /etc/moblock/moblock.conf ive  http://pastebin.com/m7ba42317 opened all MSN port no idea what i'm doing wrong .
[22:12] <maxhax> ok
[22:12] <Pixels> how can I totally remove Openoffice and all its files?
[22:12] <naftilos76> how do i get the server protocol within a controller's definition (http:// or https://) ???
[22:12] <Pixels> naftilos76, with ease
[22:12] <nightrid3r> is this server lagging or is it just me
[22:13] <Pixels> nightrid3r, just you
[22:13] <Pixels> !ping
[22:13] <Pixels> :-)
[22:13] <nightrid3r> Pixels nice :)
[22:13] <Pixels> how can I totally remove Openoffice and all its files?
[22:13] <willberg> I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there is a way to save my current X configuration back to xorg.conf. I know it's all done by autodetect nowadays, but sometimes (for "no" reason) my dual-screen setup fails. I'd like to have a manual, working xorg.conf I can use in these cases. Any help appreciated!
[22:13] <Pixels> nightrid3r, any ideas plz?
[22:13] <naftilos76> Pixels - that's good! and the method would be???
[22:13] <alesan> hey is latest version of evolution able to connect to exchange 2007 and get the calendar functions etc?
[22:13] <Pixels> naftilos76, no idea, sorry
[22:13] <constantine_> xxxx does not appear to be a valid theme...yet it is a gtk 2.0 theme archive
[22:13] <nickrud> Pixels, use synaptic to search for openoffice , mark all for removal; then run apt-cache autoremove to get rid of any dangling libs
[22:13] <Pixels> alesan, have u tried it?
[22:14] <nickworks> trying to access files on an External (a drive from a dead Mac Powerbook G4) - don't have permission to access user's files. If I create an Ubuntu user with the same name and pass as the Mac user, can I access those files?
[22:14] <Pixels> nickrud, ty :)
[22:14] <naveen> willberg: copy your xorg.conf and called it xorg.conf.bak.. mess around w/ ur xorg and if u mess up, then just overwrite it w/ ur xorg.conf.bak
[22:14] <Magellan> Myrtti: A coworker has a fujitsu amilo computer. On the windows side vista / nvidia has great trouble in that the nvidia driver wont run at all so he gets no screensaver or 3D at all. Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 bahaves the same way however, i have followed traxx and see that Jaunty will probaly use Shared Irq's (Like old and crummy computers used back in the daze)
[22:14] <naftilos76> how do i get the server protocol within a controller's definition (http:// or https://) ???
[22:14] <hatter243> nickworks, also needs the same UID
[22:14] <ellar> willberg: try cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup?
[22:14] <OIS> I got a US english Ubuntu. how can I change the calender to start weeks with monday ?
[22:14] <nickrud> Pixels, that's apt-get autoremove , not apt-cache (had just been running a few iterations of it :)
[22:14] <lextul> join the party for unixtime 1234567890 ... infos here http://www.1234567890day.com/  , irc channel is here ##1234567890
[22:14] <guntbert> !repeat | naftilos76
[22:14] <nickworks> hatter - any how-to info?
[22:14] <fow> spam \o/
[22:14] <nightrid3r> nickworks prob not, you'll laso need the proper userid (numeric)
[22:15] <lextul> join the party for unixtime 1234567890 ... infos here http://www.1234567890day.com/  , irc channel is here ##1234567890
[22:15] <nightrid3r> !help lextul
[22:15] <Magellan> Myrtti: That would solve that issue. I see theres a war going on between the hardware makers today
[22:15] <nickrud> Magellan, #ubuntu+1 is the jaunty channel
[22:15] <tom_eats_lives> need help installed mob bock now msn / pidgin blocked here my /etc/moblock/moblock.conf ive  http://pastebin.com/m7ba42317 opened all MSN port no idea what i'm doing wrong .
[22:15] <willberg> naveen: Thanks naceen and ellar, I can backup my xorg just fine, but no real data is even stored in there any more as far as I can see... just a basic conf and all the rest is autodetected. I'd like to save my settings post-auto-detection back to a file
[22:15] <nickworks> hatter / nightrider - user was primary account, so I assume 0
[22:15] <nightrid3r> !help | lextul
[22:15] <Magellan> nickrud: thx
[22:15] <nightrid3r> hmmm
[22:15] <doc`> ok, have a wireless card that isnt working
[22:16] <doc`> in windows it is some ralink card
[22:16] <johan12> hi all. got a problem. usally running xubuntu 8.10 bu tried another linux-distro on an another partition, when i didn't need it anymore i just deleted the partition. now my comp cant find any os or grub :S currently chatting from xubuntu live cd
[22:16] <doc`> but its hard finding out exactly which card it is
[22:16] <guntbert> !enter | doc`
[22:16] <ellar> willberg: i don't unterstand. did you edit the xorg manually?
[22:16] <doc`> sorry
[22:16] <nightrid3r> doc` did you update your install, ralink works in the latest kernel
[22:16] <Pixels> nickrud, heh ok, apt-get autoremove
[22:16] <doc`> yes
[22:17] <doc`> i have a Asus CS5111, tried finding out exactly what wireless card there is but cant find it
[22:17] <nightrid3r> doc` whats the exact type of ralink
[22:17] <willberg> ellar: No, my xorg is as The Team made it, basically empty. It stays that way even after I set up my dual screen config - I assume it's just all done by auto detection and that's why it's so sparse in there. What I'd like to do is populate it with my actual config, to override the autodection (bvecause sometimes it goes awry)
[22:18] <baz> how can i find out what version of an app apt-get is about to give me?
[22:18] <constantine_> sweet thanks for the help
[22:18] <doc`> as I said, can
[22:19] <Pixels> nickrud, I did as you suggested, but it also started removing evolution, firefox etc :(  why?
[22:19] <tom_eats_lives> need help installed mob bock now msn / pidgin blocked here my /etc/moblock/moblock.conf ive  http://pastebin.com/m7ba42317 opened all MSN port no idea what i'm doing wrong .
[22:19] <doc`> bah, hate the us keyboards
[22:19] <nickrud> Pixels, you may have gotten down too far ..  a sec while I compare
[22:19] <doc`> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9075715&type=product&id=1218016140886 that is my computer but i cant locate the exact wireless card thats in it
[22:19] <willberg> johan12: I'm 90% sure that there's a way to install grub or lilo from the live CD, but I don't know off the top of my head. Google 'install Grub' or somesuch, and it should auto-detect where your installs are
[22:19] <nightrid3r> doc` maybe check the asus or ralink site for new drivers
[22:20] <Pixels> nickrud, all I did was select all the openoffice fields and now its removing volution, firefox etc :(
[22:20] <cousin_luigi> hello
[22:20] <doc`> ralink has some drivers, but im not sure as to install them
[22:20] <rufneck> heeey, just switched to ubuntu.. need to download mp3's to make a cd.. what should i use to get em
[22:20] <ellar> willberg: i dont know why you would backup your xorg.conf when it's basically empty??
[22:20] <cousin_luigi> is there a simple way to switch to 64 bit?
[22:20] <mrcoodles> im getting a bad dns server from the vmware dhcp on ubuntu server . i changed /etc/resolv.conf manually but whenever i restart it overwrites my change. permanent fix?
[22:20] <doc`> very new to ubuntu
[22:20] <guntbert> !grub | johan12
[22:20] <yownanymous> cousin_luigi: nope
[22:20] <redvamp128> baz: you could check at packages should be the same version that is available through apt should be the same on that site... Ubuntu -- Ubuntu Packages Search <http://packages.ubuntu.com/>
[22:20] <cousin_luigi> yownanymous: so I'll have to reinstall everything from scratch?:(
[22:21] <yownanymous> cousin_luigi: Very probably
[22:21] <nightrid3r> doc` its going to be hard helping if we don't know the exact ralink type you have
[22:21] <usser> johan12, boot into livecd mount the root partition of your hdd that you want to install grub to: sudo mount /dev/sd[number] /mnt and run grub-install sudo grub-install --root-directory /mnt /dev/sd[number]
[22:21] <rufneck> ..
[22:21] <willberg> ellar: I want to populate it with my settings (i.e. fill out the Screens section, etc.) from the current working config that I'm using. So that when autodetection stops working, I have the config safe. I thought there might be a write_config_to_file I coudl use or something
[22:21] <doc`> i understand that but i dont know how to find out exactly what type of card i have
[22:21] <nightrid3r> doc` try sudo lshw in a terminal
[22:21] <mrcoodles> im getting a bad dns server from the vmware dhcp on ubuntu server . i changed /etc/resolv.conf manually but whenever i restart it overwrites my change. permanent fix?
[22:21] <usser> johan12, err grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sd[number] sorry
[22:22] <baz> redvamp128, thank you, someone suggested apt-cache show [package name] and that worked too
[22:22] <burkmat> mrcoodles, Reconfigure the dhcp?
[22:22] <usser> mrcoodles, add override to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[22:22] <baz> how come people use apt-get when aptitude is apparently prefered?
[22:23] <ellar> willberg: so your current xorg is working as desired. Do you want to edit it or to backup it?
[22:23] <nightrid3r> baz if we know the exact pakage name its faster
[22:23] <fatbrain_t> Strange thing, if I boot windows xp and then reboot into ubuntu, my network interface is unable to get the dhcp lease... worked pre-8.10. (I have to disconnect the network cable for a few minutes or release the lease before I reboot from my windows machine)
[22:23] <mrcoodles> usser: thanks.
[22:23] <nickrud> I hate it when people disappear
[22:23] <RizR> hi everyone. I'm running 8.10 with dual-head using twinview. I'm upgrading my display card from geforce 5200 to geforce 7800gtx. using nvidia driver. what do i need to do/change?
[22:23] <usser> RizR, nothing as long as you going nvidia to nvidia
[22:24] <weebit> lookie:  Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) 64 Bit Linux
[22:24] <weebit> Core 2 Duo E7300 2.66 GHz FSB 1066 MHz L2 3 MB
[22:24] <RizR> usser: I see my xorg.conf has Geforce FX 5200 written infront of boardname in device section. is it not going to be confused about that?
[22:24] <johan12> usser: "mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/disk"
[22:24] <weebit> 4 GB - 2 x 2 GB - DDR 2 - 800 MHz
[22:24] <weebit> 512 MB ATI Radeon 4550 PCI-Express x16 GDDR3
[22:25] <weebit> 500 GB SATA II 300 Mbps - 7200 RPM 32MB Buffer
[22:25] <weebit> CD-RW / DVD-RW
[22:25] <weebit> Logitech Internet 350 Desktop
[22:25] <FloodBot2> weebit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <Pixels> nickrud, it removed evolution, firefox and even xchat. I just had to reinstall xchat lol :P  what happened?  all i wanted removed was openoffice
[22:25] <weebit> thats it all there is
[22:25] <dp> can someone tell me why the eclipse package (any of the 15 or so) need junit, libtomcat, antlr, gcj, etc?
[22:25] <usser> johan12, its mounted already? hm... you sure thats the partition
[22:25] <alesan> Pixels, well with ubuntu 7.10 it was not possible.
[22:25] <willberg> ellar: lol sorry, I know what I'm doing is slightly non-intuative. My current xorg is working, I would like to back it up. just doing a cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup isn't enough, as that file only has a skeleton configuration in it. I would like to save my configuration as Xorg has auto-set-it-up.
[22:25] <johan12> usser: yes, all my files there
[22:26] <nickrud> Pixels, somewhere you marked a lower level lib for removal that those packaged depended upon. When I went to uninstall openoffice, I only lost some language support packages
[22:26] <doc`> nightrid3r http://pastebin.com/m698a893b, but doesnt give me any more info
[22:26] <doc`> unless i dont know how to read it
[22:27] <nightrid3r> doc` link doesn't work
[22:28] <doc`> hmm it does work for me
[22:29] <martin_> fuuu
[22:29] <quentusrex> I have vlc player playing a video... And I have xchat open. How do I give the video cpu priority?
[22:29] <doc`> http://pastebin.com/m698a893b that doesnt work for you nightrid3r ?
[22:29] <guntbert> doc`: that cannot be all,  there is much more
[22:29] <doc`> yes but not on network
[22:29] <doc`> i could paste everything tho
[22:30] <eqemu> anyone know the command to check my current kernel version?
[22:30] <Flare183> eqemu: uname -a
[22:30] <bazhang> uname -r
[22:30] <boot_loop> great thanks a lot
[22:30] <Flare183> boot_loop: np
[22:30] <daniella_> hello
[22:31] <doc`> http://pastebin.com/m3e1b36ab that is everything from sudo lshw
[22:31] <guntbert> doc`: right you are, I misread :)
[22:31] <Flare183> !hi | daniella_
[22:31] <daniella_> alllo les nono
[22:31] <Flare183> !english | daniella_
[22:31] <BM8270> hello. installation of 8.10 completes without problems... logon screen comes up...  but gnome doesn't load... the whole thing stops at a black screen with a mouse pointer.
[22:32] <daniella_> i do not speak black language
[22:32] <nightrid3r> doc` try lspci
[22:32] <weebit> Ubuntu 8.10  <<<----that is a older version?
[22:32] <saurabh> if a directory has these permissions, drwxr-s---           what does it mean
[22:32] <abarai_renji> hi, when i'm doing updates, an error msg occured "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220". what's that error mean?
[22:32] <Flare183> weebit: nope
[22:32] <saurabh> i  am trying to cd in that directory but in vain
[22:32] <bazhang> weebit, that is current version
[22:32] <weebit> I thought they was at 10
[22:32] <martin_> hi any one can doo that
[22:32] <nightrid3r> abarai_renji install the ppa gpg-key
[22:33] <weebit> where did i get that idea from hmm
[22:33] <Flare183> !intrepid | weebit
[22:33] <peter_bz> Hello all, what would you say is the most asked question by people who have just moved to ubuntu?
[22:33] <bazhang> martin_, do what
[22:33] <Magellan> mneptok in channel "ubuntu+1" just banned some of your upstream suppliers. Do we needs to rethink this or what ?
[22:33] <martin_> pls ubuntu pastebin link
[22:33] <Flare183> !pastebin | martin_
[22:33] <daniella_> qui parle en francais ici
[22:33] <nightrid3r> http://paste.ubuntu.com after that you paste the link here
[22:33] <Flare183> !fr | daniella_
[22:33] <nickrud> Magellan, #ubuntu-ops
[22:33] <ellar> willberg: ok, got the sense of your question now but don't know how to do it sorry
[22:33] <weebit> so cool that place offeres the new realese and not the old one  :)
[22:33] <abarai_renji> nigtrid3r, how do i do that. btw thanks for the attention
[22:34] <martin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117859/
[22:34] <martin_> hi
[22:34] <doc`> 03:00.0 Network controller: RaLink Device 0781 from lspci
[22:34] <nightrid3r> abarai_renji look at the ppa site there's instructions there
[22:34] <Jockeo> Which of the many ".flv download" plugins for FireFox can you recommend?
[22:34] <Jufis> How come I always have to go to the keyboard settings and disable and re-enable "key presses repeat when the key is held down" option after restart to get it to work?
[22:34] <peter_bz> any ideas at all? apart from the "how do I get dvds to play?"
[22:35] <nightrid3r> doc` thats all it say for the ralink?
[22:35] <doc`> yes
[22:35] <Geek`N`Proud> !flgrx
[22:35] <Geek`N`Proud> !ati
[22:35] <BM8270> ok i will paste my message with more details in the pastebin..
[22:35] <OllyDBG> HAPPY 1234567890 DAY - JOIN ##1234567890 TO CELEBRATE :-)))
[22:35] <willberg> ellar: Gah, I figured that it's kinda a crazy thing to do. In that case, I don't suppose you know how to fix the actual problem then? After no changes in configuration, sometimes when I try and use second monitor or TV out, my X goes crazy, causes computer to die. Can't restart X, can't use terminals, have to Raise Tiny Elephants etc. When I set it to clone mode, laptop panel is fine, but crazy corruption on second screen. Looks like
[22:35] <willberg> some memory is shared or something stupid like that. Drives me nuts! Have to reinstall once a week!
[22:36] <Flare183> !ops | OllyDBG
[22:36] <savvas> Flare183: don't worry, it's a "geek" number :)
[22:36] <Flare183> savvas: Yeah I know, I am one
[22:36] <martin_> i have a lottt off post here heeelp
[22:37] <talntid> msg jblack yo :)
[22:38] <Flare183> talntid: ???
[22:38] <talntid> do'h
[22:38] <BM8270> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117860/
[22:38] <talntid> forgot the /
[22:38] <Doonz> hey guys, if im using software raid (mdadm) and i pull out a failed drive and put a new one in what do i have to do so that drive is seen?
[22:38] <martin_> help fast http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f549a2b99
[22:38] <johan12> everything working as it should, thank's guys!
[22:38] <martin_> edit my frist please
[22:38] <abarai_renji> nigtrid3r, what's the URL?
[22:38] <Flare183> BM8270: Do you know how to "stop" gdm from the terminal?
[22:39] <martin_> is a report from samba
[22:39] <martin_> comon
[22:39] <Flare183> !enter | martin_
[22:39] <martin_> sorry ubottu
[22:39] <cchildress> hi everyone. i'm trying to get a digitizer tablet to work. it's recognized, but when I'm enabling it in Gimp for an input device it says "State: Device not available: Permission denied."  What do I need to do?
[22:40] <savvas> BM8270: did you upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[22:41] <alesan> Flare183, I am curious, do you have a duty shift as semi-op in this channel? how does one get involved?
[22:41] <nightrid3r> doc` hmm there's only 3 kernel modules for pci cards
[22:41] <Flare183> alesan: See my PM
[22:41] <redvamp128> Flare183: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:41] <doc`> just try one?
[22:41]  * Doonz is
[22:41] <baz> conky is great, thanks Myrtti, fow, PoPpiLLs
[22:41] <alesan> Flare183, PM?
[22:41] <Doonz> hey guys, if im using software raid (mdadm) and i pull out a failed drive and put a new one in what do i have to do so that drive is seen?
[22:41] <Flare183> alesan: Private Message
[22:41] <nightrid3r> doc` theres for 2400 2500 and 61 model
[22:42] <Flare183> redvamp128: Yeap that the command to stop gdm
[22:42] <savvas> alesan: you mean how to become an operator? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam
[22:42] <willberg> cchildress: does it work if you start gimp as root? (i.e. in a terminal   sudo gimp-2.6 )
[22:42] <doc`> i know it is a 802.11n card
[22:42] <baz> it would be nice to have just the bandwidth in kb/s visible at all times in the tray - is this possible?
[22:42] <alesan> Flare183, that sounds so "forum-ish" I generally call it query but nevermind
[22:42] <illumin8> Hello everyone, i realize my question is a slight matter of opinion, and have read the diffirences in the distros, but which version of ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 would be a wiser choice for a new linux user?
[22:42] <martin_> tnx I upgrade samba
[22:42] <nightrid3r> doc` ow i don't think there's much support for N type cards :(
[22:42] <martin_> :)
[22:42] <willberg> baz: I think that there is a gnome applet for that, right click on a gnome bar and choose add to panel and have a look
[22:43] <dave460> hi there guys, has any1 installed ubuntu over fedora and found a way to get back in fedora??
[22:43] <Flare183> alesan: oh sorry
[22:43] <ardchoille> illumin8: 8.04 is a LTS release - supported longer and possibly more stable
[22:43] <nightrid3r> doc` so i guess ndiswrapper with windows driver is the way to go at the moment
[22:43] <Silver> Joe Smith
[22:43] <illumin8> ardchoille, will i be missing much by going with 8.04?
[22:43] <baz> willberg, u are thinking of the sys monitor applet - which comes close - except that it shows it in % rather than kb/s... why the hell %!!!
[22:43] <doc`> care to explain how to do that?
[22:43] <ardchoille> illumin8: Not really
[22:43] <Silver> Hey guys, what's up?
[22:44] <illumin8> ardchoille, my thanks :)
[22:44] <Silver> can I ask question?
[22:44] <Flare183> !ask | Silver
[22:44] <ardchoille> illumin8: I have found that the LTS releases are quite nice
[22:44] <nightrid3r> doc` sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[22:44] <Silver> ok
[22:44] <willberg> baz: haha you're right, damn...
[22:44] <macd_> illumin8, being a new user, I dont think either version will present or take away any challenges in learning Linux, however the LTS version are supported longer, and tend to be more stable (however not as cutting edge)
[22:44] <Silver> Why does runescape HD not works unless i waggle the mouse a lot?
[22:44] <Silver> It freezes when I hold the mouse still.
[22:44] <Latkah> would ndiswrapper be easier to install then madwif drivers?
[22:44] <kaptengu> ##1234567890
[22:44] <willberg> Silver: which version of java do you have? The Sun one?
[22:44] <DIFH-ice1oot> Latkah: no
[22:45] <Silver> yes
[22:45] <nightrid3r> Latkah ndiswrapper has nothing to do with madwifi
[22:45] <jacekowski> join ##1234567890
[22:45] <savvas> !offtopic | kaptengu
[22:45] <redvamp128> kaptengu:  why are you counting seconds and where did that come from?
[22:45] <kaptengu> 700 and counting
[22:45] <Droopsta915> Can someone help me with my vbox, IM getting this message.
[22:45] <Droopsta915> The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[22:45] <Flare183> !ot | jacekowski
[22:45] <willberg> Silver: Have you tried downloading the file rather than running it from the site (sorry, I'm not sure if that's something they still do, it's been about 6 years since I played)
[22:45] <mg> Can anyone guide me on setting up INX in virtualbox?
[22:46] <DVA5912> Is their an emulator i can download to emulate Pocket PC 2002?
[22:46] <jacekowski> Flare183: that's linux related
[22:46] <jacekowski> Flare183: unix timestamp to be precose
[22:46] <jacekowski> precise*
[22:46] <kaptengu> redvamp128: I am counting users
[22:46] <BM8270-0> hi back... connection dropped.
[22:46] <Droopsta915> never mind my 2 year old wont stop crying! damn cry babay
[22:46] <illumin8> macd_, i am interested in haveing a fast stable system that i can run some games, wine based software (windows type things) and learn to replace them with ubuntu alternatives as i go. would 8.04 function well for this generally (again i realize its specific to the software and user)
[22:46] <mg> I've downloaded the INX virtual version, I just don't know how to set it up in virtualbox
[22:46] <Flare183> jacekowski: Yeah but you are just spamming the channel with junk
[22:46] <Lard|arse> does wubi have a support channel?
[22:47] <int256> Hai
[22:47] <BM8270-0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117860/ my gnome getting stuck problem
[22:47] <savvas> BM8270-0: did you upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[22:47] <macd_> illumin8, I would be all over 8.04 if I were you, already ;)
[22:47] <Lard|arse> !wubi
[22:47] <illumin8> macd much apperiacted :)
[22:47] <int256> how to disconnect and connect to the internet from terminal
[22:47] <Flare183> int256: sudo dhclient
[22:48] <redvamp128> kaptengu:  I though you were counting the seconds since unix started lol Unix Lovers to Party Like It's 1234567890 | Gadget Lab from Wired.com <http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/02/unix-lovers-to.html>
[22:48] <KStarFighter> To see is not required
[22:48] <DVA5912> !pocketpc
[22:48] <dave460> can anybody point me to a place where i can find help with dual boot??
[22:48] <savvas> int256: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[22:48] <Flare183> !dualboot | dave460
[22:48] <int256> savvas: will it reconnect.
[22:49] <dave460> thanks man
[22:49] <Flare183> dave460: np
[22:49] <mg> I downloaded INX virtual machine as a zipped file, I just don't know how to set it up.
[22:49] <KStarFighter> ubottu !learn this "Im a whale, a whale, a flubber whale plus in not any good at all" :=)
[22:49] <KStarFighter> Futs
[22:49] <DVA5912> !ppc
[22:49] <savvas> int256: depends on what you mean - if you want to get a new IP, I don't know :)
[22:49] <DVA5912> not what i wanted
[22:49] <Lard|arse> ok... let's try asking this: how do i force wubi to install 8.04 instead of 8.10 ?
[22:50] <willberg> Lard|arse there are older versions of wubi available
[22:50] <KStarFighter> What a crappy channel to socialize in (As i have ordered this i shall change it to my likings)
[22:50] <Lard|arse> willberg: so download the latest 8.04 version and use that?
[22:50] <BM8270-0> i would further add that i did not use wubi.
[22:50] <willberg> Lard|arse Or try renaming a 8.04 ISO to be an 8.10 iso and trick wubi
[22:50] <savvas> Lard|arse: why don't you simply install ubuntu 8.04 by booting from the CD?
[22:50] <Doonz> hey guys, if im using software raid (mdadm) and i pull out a failed drive and put a new one in what do i have to do so that drive is seen?
[22:50] <ardchoille> KStarFighter: this actually isn't a social channel, it's a support channel
[22:50] <Lard|arse> i have no cd drive on this laptop
[22:50] <martin_> :)
[22:50] <kaptengu> !anything
[22:50] <willberg> Lard|arse: Why don't you want to use the latest 8.10?
[22:50] <dave460> Flare183: sorry but I need help with Ubuntu/Fedora dual boot... those links don't seem to cover that
[22:51] <nightrid3r> Lard|arse try unetbootin
[22:51] <Flare183> dave460: Sorry, I couldn't/can't help further
[22:51] <mg> Is there a virtual box channel for linux?
[22:51] <Lard|arse> willberg: because i currently have 8.10 installed, but after updating, i can no longer connect to the internet with it
[22:51] <dave460> k, tnx anyway
[22:52] <redvamp128> mg: yes #vbox
[22:52] <willberg> Lard|arse Maybe try asking about your internet problem in here! For instance, what is the output of ifconfig  ... although that might be kinda difficult to do if you can't go online and don'e have a second PC with irc  *hits head*
[22:53] <Lard|arse> willberg: i do, but ti's upstairs and the laptop is downstairs
[22:53] <savvas> Lard|arse: let me guess.. madwifi wireless driver?
[22:53] <Lard|arse> savvas: wired internet
[22:53] <CRZHJP> << anyone decode it?
[22:53] <Hieronymus> I have quite a simple question. Is it of any use if i download official release torrents with the idea of seeding them? Or are there enough servers?
[22:53] <savvas> !offtopic | CRZHJP
[22:53] <Flare183> !ot | CRZHJP
[22:53] <Hieronymus> Or is every bit of help welcome?
[22:53] <willberg> Lard|arse older versions of wubi are here:  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=198355&package_id=234923
[22:54] <savvas> woops
[22:54] <willberg> Lard|arse download one with 8.04 in it's name, the lastest of those ones. And that should set up 8.04 for you and not 8.10
[22:54] <savvas> Lard|arse: did you check what this command outputs: lspci -nn
[22:54] <savvas> Lard|arse: you could check where the problem is
[22:54] <CRZHJP> omg. I go offtopic one time and i get yelled at. This is a really bad day. Im going to go cut my self
[22:55] <Lard|arse> savvas: i remember reading a couple of days ago on the uupc page that there was a bug with network cards in 8.10
[22:55] <baz> if my SWAP is always at 0% used... does that mean I'm awesome?
[22:55] <Lard|arse> CRZHJP: you may want to remember that this channel is logged, so be careful what you say
[22:55] <KDE4000> lol
[22:55] <Flare183> CRZHJP: Yes, and please just to keep what you same family friendly
[22:56] <Flare183> !lol | KDE4000
[22:56] <CRZHJP> Thats it. Wheres the blade.
[22:56] <CRZHJP> /quit
[22:57] <will_> Can anyone recommend a simple but powerful text editor for Gnome, roughly akin to Kate? I'm trying to avoid installing all the KDE crunk - and Kate depends on it
[22:57] <will_> Gedit seems clunky in comparison to Kate, sadly
[22:57] <Lard|arse> will_: hmm...
[22:57] <illumin8> How can i tell which version of the Nvidia accelerated grapics drivers (96, 173, 177) are best for my system. It currently recommends 177?
[22:57] <savvas> will_: gedit with gedit-plugins or scribes
[22:57] <Myrtti> will_: you do know that you can add features to gedit with plugins?
[22:57] <bolting> I cant get the package manager to list a package that others say they can list, in this case it is kvm, which shows up when i used a live cd. What can i do? and con someone tell me the number of packaes listed when they choose all? I get 26199.
[22:57] <will_> Myrtti: I did not
[22:57] <Evilrick> I got a problem with 8.04 HH, as of a few weeks ago my removable media stopped automounting. MMC cards USB disks and the CD rom drive. I can still mount them manually with sudo mount so its not a hardware issue. If I log into Gnome as root then the automounting works. I have checked my settings in gconf-editor and the settings in my user administration tool. Any Ideas? here are my subsystem...
[22:58] <Evilrick> ...logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/117863/
[22:58] <redvamp128> baz: sometimes swap is not used depending on how much memory is installed and the type of processor- though from what I have seen mine just uses a mere 100mb when under heavy load-- like 10 tabs open in firefox-- compiz on and pidgin (933mhz PII with 256mb of memory)
[22:58] <rakudave> will_: try geany
[22:58] <Lard|arse> will_: i actually agree about clunky... earlier versions were better, i think, as you could configure more stuff without having to find where the config files where
[22:58] <baz> redvamp128, thats the machine u are using!
[22:58] <savvas> will_: what do you mean clunky?
[22:58] <Myrtti> Evilrick: log into gnome as *root*?
[22:58] <redvamp128> baz: yes
[22:58] <baz> redvamp128, 'ol school - i like it :)
[22:59] <Myrtti> Evilrick: how do you login to gnome as *root*?
[22:59] <baz> redvamp128, how's vista run on it :)
[22:59] <ardchoille> !root
[22:59] <Evilrick> Myrtti: yeah I enable administrator login and logged on as root to see if it would help, and it does
[22:59] <savvas> Myrtti: what do you need to do as root?
[22:59] <will_> savvas: Kate had a very clean and slick UI, good code highlighting and dialogs. It seems to have more of the basic features than Gedit. That said, it's been a couple of years since I used Gedit, so I might give it a spin
[22:59] <Myrtti> Evilrick: right...
[22:59] <redvamp128> baz: can't complain at the price picked it up for free -- (2 of them) after main rig got stolen...  only put in a 20$ Geforce4 Mx4000
[22:59] <Myrtti> savvas: forget it
[22:59] <Lard|arse> ardchoille: not strictly true... there are ways to make a root password, but i think that they are beyond the scope of this channel
[22:59] <ardchoille> Lard|arse: They are
[23:00] <swivel_>  /server irc.electric.net
[23:00] <savvas> will_: gedit-plugins give an extra beauty to gedit, be sure to install that package :)
[23:00] <Lard|arse> i'm also not about to say how, as it's generally not recommended
[23:00] <will_> Lard|arse: Gedit doesn't seem to be configured as a developer's text editor. I'll give it a go, though
[23:00] <will_> savvas: Thank you! That may make all the difference
[23:00] <baz> redvamp128, i'm running a core i7 with 6gb of DDR3 and 1TB RAID5 disk
[23:00] <winn_> Has anyone had their wireless broadband card stop working in the past week or so?
[23:00] <baz> redvamp128, just built it, wanted to tell someone :)
[23:00] <alesan> Myrtti, see my PM
[23:00] <illumin8> To manually set a password for the root user, type in the following in the shell:
[23:00] <illumin8> sudo passwd
[23:00] <Myrtti> illumin8: or then again, not
[23:01] <ardchoille> !supportroot | illumin8
[23:01] <Myrtti> alesan: haven't seen anything from you
[23:01] <bolting> so anyone got any ideas as to why i am getting this?
[23:01] <illumin8> oh im so sorry :(
[23:01] <alesan> Myrtti, yeah wait
[23:01] <Lard|arse> savvas: going back to the command you said... think it was lscpi -nn ... i'd have top reboot back into ubuntu to do it, could you tell me waht i'm looking for?
[23:01] <Lard|arse> illumin8: that's why i wasn't about to say it
[23:02] <will_> How do I get GTK applications running under Root to share my user's theme?
[23:02] <Scunizi> Myrtti: alesan you can't pm unless you're register on freenode
[23:02] <Scunizi> *registered
[23:02] <alesan> Myrtti, anyway, I think it is important to set a root pwd. I'll tell my horror story.
[23:02] <illumin8> i didnt realize it was taboo knowledge :(
[23:02] <alesan> Scunizi, I am registered
[23:02] <Myrtti> alesan: how about you don't
[23:02] <redvamp128> baz: with 6 gigs only time it should ever need to use the swap is a save when you put it in hibernation.
[23:02] <baz> anyone have a cool conky config they wanna give me?
[23:02] <Scunizi> alesan: maybe Myrtti isn't
[23:02] <Myrtti> Scunizi: maybe I am
[23:02] <Lard|arse> baz: conky?
[23:03] <Duff> ADminstrator?
[23:03] <will_> savvas: No code-folding in Gedit?
[23:03] <Duff> =0
[23:03] <Scunizi> Myrtti: probably are.. just didn't know . .. just 2 cents.. sorry for butting in
[23:03] <baz> redvamp128, well unless i have lots of crap going on no? Like multiple VMs, many progs open and such?
[23:03] <alesan> in few words, if your hdd has errors (due to defective hdd or power loss etc) the system will hang at boot asking for root password
[23:03] <fu1crum> my goodness... ##1234567890 is insane
[23:03] <Duff> pliz
[23:03] <redvamp128> baz: though it could also be used sometimes when using wine.. that I have noticed a bit of use when it tries to render DX8 applictions
[23:03] <alesan> and you will not be able to solve without a live cd or similar
[23:03] <baz> Lard|arse, yeah, cool app: http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[23:03] <savvas> will_: ah.. no, unfortunately not :) try geany or scite
[23:03] <alesan> I had to ship my mother a boot cd from USA to Italy to let her boot again, spend a lot of money on telephone instructions how to do etc
[23:04] <Lard|arse> will_: from google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516193
[23:04] <will_> savvas: Cheers. Basically I'm looking for a Textmate analog :)
[23:04] <winn_> Has anyone had their wireless broadband card stop working in the past week or so?
[23:04] <savvas> Lard|arse: basically, anything that says "Unknown" in the list it outputs
[23:04] <Myrtti> Evilrick: in my humble opinion you've hosed your system now. Using any operating system that's connected to the internet as *root* is a major security threat.
[23:04] <Mood> there is a bug with NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0
[23:04] <Mood> and it's a fairly big bug
[23:04] <Lard|arse> savvas: ok... i'll look
[23:05] <Jo1> I don't see a "Menus & Toolbars" item in my System Preferences [Gnome] menu.  How do I put it there?
[23:05] <savvas> Lard|arse: what I'm thinking is that ubuntu doesn't detect your ethernet
[23:06] <innociv> When i make a user, say adduser joe, is that user automatically added to group joe?
[23:06] <redvamp128> Jo1:  To get a menu-- right click on the task bar and choose add to panel menus.
[23:06] <Lard|arse> savvas: you mean it stopped detecting it sometime between me installing the updates and me reinstaling after the updates?
[23:06] <innociv> as i see the group folders made are that user name for the group
[23:06] <Lard|arse> innociv: yes... i don't understand why, but debian (and debian derivatives like ubuntu) do this)
[23:07] <innociv> so if i want a user to have group priveledges to those folders/files made by joe, i just put put user jill into group joe?
[23:07] <innociv> centos does it too iirc
[23:07] <savvas> Lard|arse: you mean it was working before? then I don't know :)
[23:07] <Lard|arse> i think (but i'm not sure) that you should make a seperate group, and make them both part of the group... but as i don't really have much expeience with user groups, i may well be wrong
[23:08] <Lard|arse> savvas: it was working when i installed the updates... part of those updates was a new kernel version, though, which is why i restarted
[23:08] <Lard|arse> that reminds me... one thing i didn't try was booting from the previous kernel version
[23:09] <Lard|arse> savvas: trying that now
[23:09] <freq18hz> 1234567890
[23:11] <Dolo> Is there a way to have differnt wallpapers and shortcuts on seprate virtual desktops
[23:12] <PleXuS> anyone in here using ovirt on ubuntu?
[23:12] <miked595> http://www.1234567890day.com/
[23:12] <benste> All my Vbox clients stopped using my internet connection after installtion of LTSP with DHCP3 - what can I do?
[23:14] <doc`> ok finally after some googling i came up with this site https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/210725 , and the drivers from http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html might work, but how do i install them?
[23:14] <pineapple> savvas: this is kinda strange... it's working in 2.6.27-9-generic but not in 2.6.27-11-generic
[23:14] <pineapple> savvas: oops, posbibly confusing as i'm using a different name
[23:15] <savvas> hehe
[23:15] <Jo1> @redvamp128: thank you.  do you know if there is a way to adjust the properties of the Gnome panel?  Mine only reaches part way across the display and i can't move or stretch it.
[23:15] <savvas> lard|arse: you're using 8.10 with 2.6.27-9-generic kernel now?
[23:15] <lard|arse> savvas: one thing i did notice when booting up, was a message that was shown just before X started
[23:15] <lard|arse> savvas: yes
[23:15] <redvamp128> Jo1:  yes
[23:15] <Xamusk> has anyone been able to configure an AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint touchpad in Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[23:16] <sundar> hi.question regarding dell-mini UNR custom launcher.It is open source,but i dont know where it is hosted?i could find the generic open source version at wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR. yelp!
[23:16] <freq18hz> excuse me, but why was I kicked?
[23:16] <savvas> lard|arse: can you post the output at http://paste.ubuntu.com of this command: sudo lspci -nnv
[23:16] <Dgrillo>  hi every one
[23:16] <benste> Question ! - All my Vbox clients stopped using my internet connection after installtion of LTSP with DHCP3 - what can I do?
[23:16] <redvamp128> Jo1:  right click on the panel- choose properties then exand
[23:16] <ximo> Hi, I`m having problems when I password protect my screen saver or lock my session, then my password can`t unlock it, I`m using 8.10
[23:17] <int256> Ubuntu is very very slow in downloading from internet
[23:17] <Xamusk> I can't get double fingers tap = middle button
[23:17] <Jo1> @﻿redvamp128 OK.
[23:17] <heatmzzr_> How do I extract a file in gui, permissions wont let me?
[23:17] <pizdets> anyone know what people who post wanted ads mean by UNIX, exactly? are they looking for linux/freebsd or what
[23:17] <int256> i downloaded the same files in Windows XP and Ubuntu 8.10
[23:18] <int256> in XP  get 200-229kb/sec in ubuntu 16-26kb/sec
[23:18] <LePHiSTO> http://coolepochcountdown.com/
[23:19] <dee25> IM HAVING PROBLEM CHANGING MY RESOLUTION TO 1204X768
[23:19] <int256> this is why i hate ubuntu
[23:19] <dee25> IM STUCK AT 800X600
[23:19] <freq18hz> excuse me, but why was I kicked?
[23:19] <Naisel> heatmzzr what kind of file
[23:19] <ardchoille> LePHiSTO: Please don't paste links like that here
[23:19] <Jo1> ﻿@﻿redvamp128, expand is checked, but size did not change. only browser windows open appeared separately.
[23:19] <Naisel> you can extract a file in you terminal
[23:19] <heatmzzr_> Naisel:tar.bz2
[23:19] <Hieronymus> Just configure your stuff right.
[23:19] <Dgrillo>   hi  i'm using 8.10  and i have a dual monitor pc, i need to run some applications  in the principal monitor and others in the secondary, but  always get the principal  in the wrong place,  and i need to change them
[23:20] <Hieronymus> In Ubuntu I download faster.
[23:20] <Naisel> tar -jvf file
[23:20] <Scunizi> int256: what you hate is the propiatory nature of the drivers for your specific nic card that doesn't want to work well with reverse engineered drivers on linux..
[23:20] <int256> Scunizi: oh, then the windows is best.
[23:21] <Scunizi> int256: I don't know how you got that out of what I said .. but no.. buy a better supported nic card..
[23:21] <Evilrick> Myrtti: Everyone on my case about root. I logged on as root to check teh automount issue. then logged off and here I am connected to the interweb as !root.
[23:22] <heatmzzr_> Naisel: ima noob. What do I type in terminal to extract the files in another directory>
[23:22] <lard|arse> savvas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117874/ is the output to that command; the message before X loaded (viewed by doing crtl+alt+f8) is [  70.062114] pan0: Dropping NETIF_F_UFO since no NETIF_F_HW_CSUM feature.
[23:22] <Myrtti> Evilrick: consider yourself lucky then. Logging in as root in the graphical environment can make certain file permissions to such a state that using them as a normal user is impossible.
[23:22] <illumin8> int256 have you tried disabling ipv6?
[23:23] <Naisel> easy you type in your terminal #cd directory then extract the file
[23:23] <heatmzzr_> isnt there a way to switch to root in gui and move and extract files?????
[23:23] <heatmzzr_> oh ok
[23:23] <Naisel> heatmzzr you done
[23:23] <illumin8> int256, this website has some information that may help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202838
[23:23] <heatmzzr_> na. what was the specific command to extract the tar.bz2?
[23:24] <Evilrick> tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2
[23:24] <lard|arse> heatmzzr_: tar -xvjf filenam
[23:24] <adamb_>  #linux
[23:24] <adamb_> err
[23:24] <sisapinusa> hey
[23:24] <lard|arse> heatmzzr_: replace the j with a z for tar.gz
[23:24] <ximo> Anyone know why this happens?  can`t unlock session or password protected screensaver
[23:24] <adamb_> You guys ready for unix timestamp to be 1234567890 in 5 minutes?
[23:24] <ximo> is this a bug?
[23:24] <Evilrick> -zx is for gzip -jx is for bz2
[23:24] <gradin> anybody know how i can get intrepid to work with skype?
[23:25] <redvamp128> Jo1:  hrm if you take a screenshot and paste at www.imagebin.ca so I can see the what you are talking about
[23:25] <Evilrick> I got a problem with 8.04 HH, as of a few weeks ago my removable media stopped automounting. MMC cards USB disks and the CD rom drive. I can still mount them manually with sudo mount so its not a hardware issue. If I log into Gnome as root then the automounting works. I have checked my settings in gconf-editor and the settings in my user administration tool. Any Ideas? here are my subsystem...
[23:25] <Evilrick> ...logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/117863/
[23:25] <Naisel> lard|arse is a bz2
[23:25] <Naisel> no tar.gz
[23:25] <pepperjack> ximo: capslock? :)
[23:25] <ximo> jaja, no is not that
[23:25] <lard|arse> Naisel: i know, i saw the question :-)
[23:25] <Naisel> ok
[23:25] <lard|arse> ximo: it it using the ubuntu live cd?
[23:26] <ximo> no, I am a proud full Ubuntu user
[23:26] <ximo> me and my dell are very happy with it
[23:26] <savvas> lard|arse: weird, I have an ethernet card with the same driver/kernel module and it was working fine in 8.10
[23:26] <lard|arse> savvas: is it an MSI wind?
[23:26] <foolz> does anyone know if there is a way to alter firefox bookmark sidebar behavior, so that I have to double-click on a bookmark to activate it, instead of single-clicking?
[23:27] <foolz> the firefox channel seems dead, which is why I thought I'd give it a shot here
[23:27] <Dgrillo> hi  i'm using 8.10  and i have a dual monitor pc, i need to run some applications  in the principal monitor and others in the secondary, but  always get the principal  in the wrong place,  and i need to change them....................
[23:27] <Bodsda> Hi, if i wanted to upgrade from hardy to intrepid, could I do so by mounting the iso and doing an upgrade from the cd or do i have to burn it and boot from it?
[23:27] <savvas> lard|arse: no, but MSI P965 motherboard (if I recall well)
[23:27] <lard|arse> Bodsda: i believe that only the alternate cd lets you do an upgrade
[23:27] <Bodsda> lard|arse, thats good enough, thanks
[23:27] <lard|arse> savvas: should i try in the -11 kernel and see what the differences are?
[23:28] <savvas> lard|arse: give me a sec
[23:28] <lard|arse> ok
[23:28] <PeskyJ> what's a good program to use for syncing modified html and php files and images form a local web directory to my server?
[23:28] <benste>  All my Vbox clients stopped using my internet connection after installtion of LTSP with DHCP3 - what can I do?
[23:28]  * kenami is back.
[23:28] <TeamColtra[TFD]> i accedently enabled magnification tat follows my mouse ow do i disable it?
[23:28] <DasEi>  Bodsda:you could use dist upgrade, but a fresh install is always the safer bet
[23:28] <DeadRooster> is anyone here counting down/up to epcoh time?
[23:28] <^hashbang^> PeskyJ: rsync and ssh
[23:28] <Bodsda> DasEi, yeah, ok cheers
[23:28] <DeadRooster> http://www.coolepochcountdown.com/ - two minutes
[23:29] <PeskyJ> TeamColtra[TFD]: hold the windows key down and scroll out with the mouse scroll wheel
[23:29] <lard|arse> PeskyJ: syncing? not sure... for just copying between folders, you could use scp
[23:29] <talntid> benste: hey, can I message you?
[23:29] <DasEi> !upgrade | Bodsda
[23:29] <TeamColtra[TFD]> your a life saver, tanks
[23:29] <ximo> any ideas?
[23:29] <sachael> happy 1234567890 :)
[23:29] <Bodsda> cheers DasEi
[23:29] <freq18hz> excuse me, but why was I kicked?
[23:29] <mortal1> does anyone know if you can start a vnc server on the live installer cd, and connect to it remotely?
[23:30] <talntid> yes, mortal1
[23:30] <mortal1> i.e. a friend puts in the ubuntu disk, I connect to their ip and install linux for them
[23:30] <DasEi> mortal1: you'd have to install it first
[23:30] <unused_bagels> HEY EVERYONE! I
[23:30] <unused_bagels> 'augh
[23:30] <adamb_> You guys ready for unix timestamp to be 1234567890 in 5 minutes?
[23:30] <adamb_> in 1 minute
[23:30] <adamb_> =)
[23:30] <bazhang> !ot
[23:30] <DeadRooster> adamb_: 40 seconds by my count
[23:30] <bazhang> take chat elsewhere please
[23:31] <savvas> lard|arse: try reinstall these packages: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-11-generic
[23:31] <unused_bagels> sorry.  I've got an INTEL graphics chipset (please, don't make fun, not by choice.) can anyone help me compile the driver?
[23:31] <mortal1> how do i print that out?
[23:31] <mortal1> the unix time
[23:31] <constantine> hi I'm trying to setup vpnc but can't tell if its working
[23:31] <adamb_> go go go go
[23:31] <savvas> lard|arse: and then reconfigure them: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-11-generic
[23:31] <^hashbang^> !ot | mortal1
[23:31] <rakudave> it's exactly 1234567890 (sorry for !ot, but someone had to say it) :-D
[23:31] <horstle> 1234567890
[23:31] <mortal1> o,0
[23:31] <hank_> 1234567890! :D
[23:31] <rakudave> happy 1234567890
[23:31] <mortal1> err happy new year?
[23:31] <mortal1> lol
[23:31] <mirani> hi! ive got two machines connected in a cable modem shared network through a windows machine... the first one is an ubuntu box, and works well with an static IP, the second one is a debian box that i dont manage to connect... is there an easy way to configure this debian box using the ubuntu box as reference? eg. just copying configuration files... ?
[23:32] <andrei> hello
[23:32] <Aberration> Hi all!
[23:32] <ximo> could have something to do with mi finger print reader?
[23:32] <mirani> hi! ive got two machines connected in a cable modem shared network through a windows machine... the first one is an ubuntu box, and works well with an static IP, the second one is a debian box that i dont manage to connect... is there an easy way to configure this debian box using the ubuntu box as reference? eg. just copying configuration files... ?
[23:32] <mirani> sorry by the duplicate
[23:32] <mirani> i tried to apply the same /etc/network/interfaces with no success
[23:32] <unused_bagels> I've got an INTEL graphics chipset 945G (please, don't make fun, not by choice.) can anyone help me compile the driver?
[23:32] <andrei> i want erase my kernel and réinstall, help me please
[23:33] <Korfox> happe 1234567890 @ll
[23:33] <Korfox> happe = happy
[23:33] <DeadRooster> you too Korfox
[23:33] <Korfox> thx
[23:33] <Aberration> Hi all!
[23:33] <savvas> mirani: debian testing/lenny ?
[23:33] <Aberration> Damn I already said so
[23:33] <brandonban6> hi Aberration
[23:33] <fow> @all = all
[23:33] <fow> er
[23:33] <fow> yeah.
[23:33] <rakudave> bazhang: thanks
[23:33] <andrei> i want erase my kernel and réinstall, help me please
[23:33] <adamb_> hahah everyone in office tried to screen shot and missed it by a second.
[23:33] <PeskyJ> ^hashbang^: cheers :) rsync looks like it does what I want :)
[23:34] <mirani> savvas, yes
[23:34] <fwaokda> how do i install a .tar.bz2 file in ubuntu? i tried what the readme said but i must be doing something wrong
[23:34] <Aberration> Does rt kernel work with intrepid already? Do we have some news?
[23:34] <BorkisDrizzt> wai for Epoch!
[23:34] <moooop> Happy gnu year everybody!
[23:34] <savvas> mirani: ah.. no idea then, sorry :)
[23:35] <brandonban6> Hmmm...so two issues, I think they are related........user switch panel will not load and ubuntu 8.10 64bit will not shutdown, freezes on the exit splash screen. Can someone point out some things I should check for? Possibly a bad user account?
[23:35] <constantine> in Windows, I was using GPass as a vpn but can't find a comparable ubuntu vpn
[23:35] <kronicKoH> Hello all
[23:35] <DasEi> brandonban6: check your logs for the logout issue
[23:35] <PeskyJ> constantine: openvpn
[23:35] <andrei> i want erase my kernel and réinstall, help me please
[23:36] <kronicKoH> Do we have any  blackberry users in the room?
[23:36] <benste> Question -  All my Vbox clients stopped using my internet connection after installtion of LTSP with DHCP3 - what can I do?
[23:36] <galvanize> hi, I am writing a script using a bunch of if statements and I want the outputs all to show on one line?
[23:36] <galvanize> is this possible?
[23:36] <unused_bagels> I've got an INTEL graphics chipset 945G (please, don't make fun, not by choice.) can anyone help me compile the driver?
[23:37] <PeskyJ> benste: try the vbox manual... also try changing the network type, I think it uses NAT by default but the manual mentions some issues with that
[23:37] <savvas> galvanize: cat filename | xargs
[23:37] <illumin8> where would i find my network shares (shares im able to access) in the file system?
[23:37] <DasEi>  galvanize:if no answer here, maybe #bash
[23:37] <andrei> i want erase my kernel and réinstall, help me please
[23:37] <andrei> i want erase my kernel and réinstall, help me please
[23:37] <andrei> i want erase my kernel and réinstall, help me please
[23:37] <FloodBot2> andrei: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <DasEi> andrei: why would you ?
[23:37] <savvas> benste: are you sure it's ubuntu (host) related and not #vbox ?
[23:38] <benste> yes I'am
[23:38] <benste> Pesky: I already tried those different options, using a Windows and a Ubuntu client system, both got an IP and send packages during a ping, but both woun't find internet
[23:38] <ximo> any ideas about why I can`t unlok my session in intrepid? BTW, I do type correctly my pass
[23:38] <brandonban6> MSG <DasEi><Thanks DasEi, I'll take a loosie>
[23:38] <ZERAlDA> hello
[23:39] <ZERAlDA> my wireless driver does not work
[23:39] <ZERAlDA> dell
[23:39] <savvas> benste: you could try choosing a different virtual network card
[23:39] <ZERAlDA> card*****
[23:39] <benste> savvas I think it could be related to the installation of an LTSP and it's own DHCP-server
[23:39] <lard|arse> savvas: i've reinstalled them... what will reconfiguring them do?
[23:39] <DasEi> !wireless | ZERAlDA
[23:39] <DasEi> ZERAlDA: which chip ?
[23:40] <savvas> benste: I'm not sure then :) I think vmware server or kvm are much more stable when it comes to networking
[23:40] <constantine> peskyj: should I get tunneldigger, too?
[23:40] <doc`> http://pastebin.com/m45f3e25b line 7 and 8 i dont get
[23:40] <ZERAlDA> don know
[23:40] <ZERAlDA> wht did u mean
[23:40] <PeskyJ> constantine: dunno
[23:40] <benste> I don't need them in my LTSP
[23:40] <benste> I just need them on my local machine
[23:40] <DasEi> !who | ZERAlDA
[23:40] <steelcityjim> can anyone recommend a good server share applicaiton?
[23:40] <ximo> any ideas about why I can`t unlok my session in intrepid? BTW, I do type correctly my pass...
[23:40] <DasEi> ZERAlDA: lspci tells you
[23:41] <savvas> lard|arse: basically.. reconfigure :) update configuration files and everything necessary
[23:41] <TeamColtra[TFD]> I also must have used another key combo, because now in FireFox I have a text cursor when I click on a word
[23:41] <steelcityjim> I think i have seen ssh?
[23:41] <savvas> lard|arse: after that you should reboot with -11 and see if it got any better
[23:41] <fwaokda> im trying to install ophcrack-3.1.0.tar.bz2 but when i type "make" it says stop and doesn't go further can someone please help???
[23:41] <TeamColtra[TFD]> like the flashing | and when I click the down arrow... it just scrolls down text, that gets annoying...  :) Anyone know how to turn off the text cursor.. .or what that thing is really called so I can google it
[23:41] <gizmo_the_great> Hi. Got 4Gb RAM using 32-bit Ubuntu, but it only seeing 3.2Gb as per max addressable for 32-bit. Read about the PAE (Physical Address Extension) - most people seem to think that by installing server kernel (apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server) that the 4Gb then becomes addressable, but when I installed it and rebooted, I still at 3.2Gb?
[23:42] <DasEi> fwaokda:ain't this a live-cd for win passwd ?
[23:42] <fwaokda> DasEi, this isn't the livecd and yet is the actual program
[23:42] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Giz I actually read an aritcle about that... basically even though a motherboard supports more than 2 GB there was something to do with it actually not being very effective to actually go over 2 GB
[23:43] <Delvien> gizmo_the_great: look for bigmem kernel
[23:43] <DasEi> fwaokda: any additional info at the stop of make ?
[23:43] <ximo> any ideas about why I can`t unlok my session in intrepid? BTW, I do type correctly my pass....
[23:43] <steelcityjim> anyone recommend a server share application?
[23:43] <steelcityjim> new to linux
[23:43] <steelcityjim> want the ability to have a remote user get files
[23:43] <Delvien> TeamColtra[TFD]: Correct, unless you are running some HEAVY applications.
[23:43] <lard|arse> savvas: ok, no errors during the reinstall... will restart with the new kernel, and if it's not wirking, will do lspci -nnv >file and diff the 2 outputs (this one and the earlier one), and uplaod both after restarting back into a working version
[23:43] <fwaokda> DasEi, make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[23:43] <DasEi> gizmo_the_great: there is a solution for 32 bit too, but then have to recompile kernel, I#d suggest using 64 bit instead
[23:44] <Delvien> TeamColtra[TFD]: that mostly lies in the OS, mobos have evolved a bit
[23:44] <ximo> anyone?? could my problem be related with the fingerprint soft I use?
[23:44] <Delvien> DasEi: I would never suggest running 64bit on a 32bit processor, plus it adds compatabilty issues, there are other sollutions
[23:44] <Huufarted> Quick question:  I want to replace my router with an Ubuntu box.  Any particular RPMs that could give me a decent solution for this?
[23:44] <jrib> Huufarted: RPMs meaning?
[23:44] <TeamColtra[TFD]> Delvien: I knew I saw something about it I will still try to get that link as to why it does that
[23:45] <pepperjack> Huufarted: i can think of a few debs :)
[23:45] <Huufarted> sorry, might have used the wrong term.
[23:45] <DasEi> Delvien: 32 bit proc ? bad then
[23:45] <Huufarted> pepperjack, debs?
[23:45] <jrib> !rpm | Huufarted
[23:45] <Huufarted> bah, sorry jrib.  I work on Red Hat boxes almost all day long.  It's just a generic term for me.
[23:45] <unused_bagels> I've got an INTEL graphics chipset 945G (please, don't make fun, not by choice.) can anyone help me compile the driver?
[23:45] <Delvien> Huufarted: deb :)
[23:46] <Delvien> unused_bagels: shouldnt need to compile anything should be able to install the driver right from restricted drivers app, or synaptic
[23:46] <pepperjack> Huufarted: im not sure that there is any official howto in the wiki or anything but there are several good ones available.  its not bad at all
[23:46] <benste> back again with the same problem: all my client machines in virtualbox are connecteable and get IPs but woun't ping google.de
[23:47] <unused_bagels> Delvien what, do I just type in intel in synaptic?
[23:47] <mgolisch> benste: dns broken?
[23:47] <mgolisch> benste: see what is your problem
[23:47] <Huufarted> pepperjack, any suggestion for a starting point?
[23:47] <Delvien> benste: what networking option did you pick for each machine? NAT? Bridged?
[23:47] <Delvien> unused_bagels: try it
[23:48] <ximo> so...no ideas then? I repeat my problem: "any ideas about why I can`t unlok my session in intrepid? BTW, I do type correctly my pass" this also happens when i password protect my screensaver
[23:48] <benste> Delvien , mgolisch : I'm using default options which I think is NAT
[23:48] <benste> Delvien , mgolisch : All worked fine until installation of LTSP
[23:48] <Delvien> benste: can you check? guess work usually doesnt fly when trying to get help
[23:49] <Aberration> Hi all! I got a tricky problem. Is it possible to add a sound level linked to my laptop hotkeys that is not the gnome applet?
[23:49] <unused_bagels> delvien: I have intel i9xx X.org display driver it says
[23:49] <benste> Delvien what?
[23:49] <pepperjack> Huufarted: looks like we have a howto afterall https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[23:49] <Delvien> benste can you check to make sure it is using NAT
[23:49] <unused_bagels> * Delvien
[23:49] <ximo> I need this for my work, company politics...and is very anoying to reboot my laptop
[23:49] <Huufarted> pepperjack, already reading that.  :) Should have Googled it to start with.
[23:49] <Delvien> unused_bagels: did it pull up something that matched in synaptic?
[23:49] <Huufarted> thanks, Pepperjack.
[23:50] <Aberration> I mean. I can't set the sound level thanks to alsamixer, nor the gnome applet, not anything. Maybe I can put another sound leveler in the end of the chain, that works fine
[23:50] <pepperjack> Huufarted: mostly just a matter of internet connection sharing and seting up a dhcpsever  the dhcpserver would only be a few changed lines in the config file and then a restart of the service and then you could use firestarter for ics its just a few mouse clicks
[23:50] <benste> delvien yes it uses NAT
[23:50] <Delvien> benste what is the guest OS?
[23:50] <unused_bagels> Delvien: that's what synaptic says I have.  But everyone in the wine IRC says that my driver must be busted or crappy, because games I could play in XP don't even resemble anything in wine.  I get serious graphical anomalies on 10 year old games.
[23:51] <Huufarted> yeah, I see that Pepperjack.  The real question isn't so much the NATing of it, but the forwarding of ports and such.
[23:51] <benste> Delvien : Ubuntu 9.04 OR Win XP - both tested
[23:51] <ximo> anyone had the same problem?
[23:51] <benste> Delvien , mgolisch :I'm switching to the vbox channel
[23:51] <Huufarted> which would be a NAT solution I guess.
[23:51] <Pirate_Hunter> does anyoen here have a fix or work around for amsn voice call system that doesnt allow a user to make voice call, everytime i try it pops up "can only have one voice call instance" something on thsoe lines
[23:51] <steelcityjim> can anyone assist with samba share set up
[23:52] <steelcityjim> not seeing the share on windows pcs
[23:52] <Delvien> unused_bagels: Windows games will run slower in linux, or not work at all. you can try reinstalling the driver, but there is no guarantee it will solve your issues.
[23:52] <Huufarted> pepperjack, that guides got the IP Tables on there.  Thanks a ton
[23:52] <steelcityjim> seeing the linux server
[23:52] <unused_bagels> steelcityjim: stand by, I have a link for you.  it solved all my problems with samba.
[23:52] <jrib> ximo: just ask your question/state your problem.  Assume the channel has 0-lines of memory unless someone is addressing you.  After reading your last two lines, I have no idea what you are seeking help with
[23:52] <steelcityjim> i think its authentication or sign on issue
[23:52] <Mood> steelcityjim: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html
[23:52] <Delvien> unused_bagels: It's why i quit gaming on the PC platform, companies will develope for windows because MS gives them benefits and most gamers use windows. DirectX is good, ill give MS that.
[23:53] <calwig> hi, if i want to move some files with mv and only some how can i do it?  mv dsc94?? - dsc95??
[23:53] <constantine> I realize this is more of a network question, but looking at my vpn connection type options, I see "Cisco Compatible VPN" how do I know if that is right for me?
[23:53] <unused_bagels> Delvien: it isn't speed I'm concerned with, it's just plain wierdness.  I know that the games work with linux, they're on the platinum list in wine.
[23:53] <steelcityjim> wait im setting it up through the desktop gui
[23:53] <steelcityjim> not command line
[23:53] <jrib> calwig: what?  list the files you want to move:  mv file1 file2 ... fileN TARGET
[23:53] <Delvien> unused_bagels: The lists in wine are not reliable. period.
[23:54] <calwig> jrib: Hi, well for example photographs  DSC0001.JPG until DSC0100.JPG
[23:54] <ximo> Ok. I am sorry. My problem is the following: When I block my session or I password protect my screensaver, I can`t unlock it, it tells me my pass is invalid, and i am entering correctly. I use the 8.10 version.
[23:54] <Pirate_Hunter> does anyoen here have a fix or work around for amsn voice call system that doesnt allow a user to make voice call, everytime i try it pops up "can only have one voice call instance" something on thsoe lines
[23:54] <unused_bagels> steelcityjim: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[23:54] <rdw200169> unused_bagels, WineHQ's AppDB is very good though
[23:54] <Delvien> unused_bagels: I hate to be the rain on the parade, but WINE isnt good, it's getting there, and they have done a stellar job with nothing to work with, what works for one person may not work for another.
[23:54] <jrib> calwig: you can use DSC{0001,0100} for that
[23:54] <unused_bagels> rdw200169: I used the appdb.  I did everything it said.  It's my graphics card.
[23:54] <Okashi> Is this a good place to ask about getting mic to work?
[23:55] <calwig> jrib: mv DSC{0001,0100}.JPG /home/??
[23:55] <unused_bagels> rdw200169: I was hoping that it was just the driver, because I had ppl look at my screens and they all said it was the driver ;-;
[23:55] <Delvien> Okashi: ask away
[23:55] <rdw200169> unused_bagels, what are you trying to play?
[23:55] <jrib> calwig: sure, though I doubt you want to move them to /home
[23:55] <ximo> My problem is the following: When I block my session or I password protect my screensaver, I can`t unlock it, it tells me my pass is invalid, and i am entering correctly. I use the 8.10 version.
[23:55] <oax> I ahve a system where openoffice works for all users except one.   when she tries to start openoffice, the splash appears and then goes away.  no error messages in the terminal
[23:55] <unused_bagels> Delvien: What would you suggest, sir? I don't plan to just give up on PC games, because frankly, I'm not impressed with too many open source games I've found in synaptic.
[23:55] <Okashi> OK, I plug in a headset and the mic doesn't work. I've read through the guides and I still can't get it to work
[23:56] <oax> i tried removing .openoffice.org2
[23:56] <oax> no effect
[23:56] <unused_bagels> rdw200169: guild wars and Soldier of Fortune, GTAIII Old games.
[23:56] <jrib> ximo: weird.  Have you checked caps lock, etc?  Does this reliably happen every time?  Can you still login at tty?
[23:56] <calwig> jrib: it was only an example, but is that the right string? DSC{0001,0100}.jpg?
[23:56] <jrib> calwig: yes, that will work
[23:56] <fow> unused_bagels, old games will work plenty fine (except Splinter Cell)
[23:56] <pepperjack> ximo: so basically you have to alt-ctrl-f2 and then login and kill the process or alt-ctrl-backspace to kill x..that sucks :)
[23:56] <ximo> yes i can, is only in those cases
[23:56] <rdw200169> unused_bagels, you could take a shot at cedega
[23:56] <fow> It's /really/ crucial that you have good video card drivers though, unused_bagels
[23:56] <Delvien> unused_bagels: oh, me neither. I am not too familiar with the intel chipset. Try doing a "complete removal" in synaptic, reboot, install again
[23:56] <calwig> jrib: nice, ill try it on a few files, thanks much :)
[23:56] <ximo> yes it does.. :(
[23:57] <dee25> how u use remote desktop
[23:57] <ximo> i have checked caps lock
[23:57] <unused_bagels> fow that's what I've been trying to do, get a better driver.
[23:57] <dee25> to connect to someones computer
[23:57] <rdw200169> unused_bagels, you have to pay for it, it's not much, but at least they do all the dirty work for you ;)
[23:57] <AidenL> This is a Nagios error (already asked in #nagios)...Im having an error where the commands ($CONTACTEMAIL$) arn't being parsed. Some of them are though, such as $SERVICEDESC$, any ideas?
[23:57] <unused_bagels> rdw200169: but still, would it work with an intel chipset?
[23:57] <fow> unused_bagels, yeah, it's what's given me the most headache when it comes to gaming
[23:57] <steelcityjim> ok this is all command line also
[23:57] <pepperjack> dee25: rdesktop is the app i use
[23:57] <rdw200169> unused_bagels, that i don't know
[23:57] <ximo> the problem is that i need to lock my session at work, comapny politics
[23:57] <unused_bagels> fow do you has intel chipset too?
[23:57] <fow> yes, I do
[23:58] <fow> 965GMA
[23:58] <pepperjack> dee25: thats for terminal services connections like to a windows box allowing remote desktop connections
[23:58] <s4a> dee25, Accessories-->System-->Preferences-->Remote Desktop
[23:58] <unused_bagels> fow how do you get around the headache of its crappiness?
[23:58] <fow> but I need a nap, so nn
[23:58] <munkh> hi
[23:58] <fow> unused_bagels, if you have everything set up with GEM, it's not crappy
[23:58] <unused_bagels> fow nooooo okay.... ::weeps::
[23:58] <lard|arse> savvas: back in -9 now... booted up in -11 and had no connection. did lspci -nnv and diffed it against the output i got from the command in -9, and there's one entry showing as unknown... do you want the whole file or just the diff?
[23:58] <jrib> calwig: note that does stupid expansion and doesn't care if the files exist
[23:58] <unused_bagels> fow what's GEM
[23:58] <munkh> pomoc
[23:58] <ximo> pepperjack: do you have any possible solutions?
[23:59] <fow> unused_bagels, Google for phoronix and GEM
[23:59] <fow> I'm out forrealz
[23:59] <unused_bagels> fow ty, I'll try. enjoy your nap.
[23:59] <calwig> jrib: expansion?
[23:59] <ximo> jrib: It is only in those casaes