=== sadmac_ is now known as sadmac [08:07] is there a list of event anywhere? [08:09] cwillu: any string can be a valid event. but for a list of ones upstart uses internally see man events [08:15] no manual entry [08:16] my next gripe was going to be the difficulty in finding documentation for upstart-as-used-in-the-wild [08:16] :p [08:16] cwillu: install fedora :) [08:16] then look at the manpage [08:17] after the kde debacle, you'll understand if I decline your generous offer :p [08:17] but I'd take a link to an online version :p [08:20] kde debacle? I think we have a damn good KDE implementation. (digging in koji for that manpage...) [08:20] thanks [08:21] http://linux.die.net/man/5/events [08:21] whoa. didn't know they would pick that up... [08:22] which isn't terribly useful [08:22] what are you missing? [08:23] the justification for using upstart natively rather than the old style rc jobs [08:23] except not worded quite so aggressively [08:25] cwillu: I'm regrettably too tired for that now. [08:25] cwillu: netsplit.com might be a good place to look. somewhere in the archives scott has done that many times. [08:25] * sadmac sleeps [08:26] sadmac, I don't need to be sold on upstart over the old format, but I'm not having an easy time of actually using it as such [08:36] http://www.netsplit.com/2007/12/07/how-to-and-why-supervise-forking-processes/ [08:36] does that imply that I don't need to use start-stop-daemon or its ilk anymore? [08:51] cwillu: pretty much yeah [09:56] suihkulokki, there's no way to specify a user to run as is there? [19:49] notting: ping [19:50] what's up? [19:50] notting: do you prefer SELinux policy loading in init or initrd? [19:51] i prefer it not be in init(1) as then the first thing init has to do is policy loading gunk and then re-execing itself [19:53] sold [19:56] whether that's in the initramfs, or in a shell script sitting at /sbin/init... [19:56] notting: I don't see doing it in another piece of code as being better than having it in pid 1. [19:57] the only real added ugly is figuring out whether init is being executed the first time or the second. [23:31] \o/ [23:34] ion_: yes? [23:34] sadmac: Time.at(1234567890) passed. [23:35] ion_: sweet