| charlie-tca | Ah, customizing the system. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| zoredache | you shouldn't really need much of a script. You could simply build a package that depends on everything you need (assuming everything is available in the repository) | 00:00 |
| alienkid | hi guys know any good docks that don't require compositors(tried simdock but it gave errors) | 00:02 |
| Lucifer_Cat | i've been apt-getting almost everything. so i suppose it should be. | 00:02 |
| Lucifer_Cat | zoredache: that idea is much more feasible.. thanks! | 00:03 |
| * Lucifer_Cat goes off to look for instructions on building packages. | 00:03 | |
| zoredache | The debian new maintainers gude might be a starting point http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ | 00:04 |
| zoredache | I have used the 'equivs' tool on occasion to accomplish something like what you mention. Though that isn't really what equivs was made for | 00:07 |
| Usr | By any chance would anyone know how to make Avant's dock do what Cairo dock's does when you mouse over it?(I'm alienkid's brother.) | 00:09 |
| TheSheep | assume we never saw Cairo dock | 00:11 |
| TheSheep | also, there is #awn where the developers themselves lurk, they are quite friendly | 00:11 |
| Usr | Oh. How do I go about getting to their IRC? | 00:13 |
| Usr | (Sorry if it's a late response, I'm looking at a Wiki article, too.) | 00:13 |
| TheSheep | Usr: /j #awn | 00:15 |
| alienkid | so any good non-compositor docks? | 00:17 |
| * charlie-tca never turns compositor on | 00:17 | |
| alienkid | charlie same here | 00:18 |
| TheSheep | I suppose you can make something with the standard xfce4-panel and iconbox panel plugin... | 00:18 |
| TheSheep | but it's not quite it | 00:18 |
| titan_ark_ | hey, another n00b doubt: do i need to Dl any add ons to install along with xubuntu? | 00:19 |
| TheSheep | hey max | 00:19 |
| TheSheep | titan_ark_: depends on what you want to use, default set of application is not necessarily complete | 00:19 |
| TheSheep | titan_ark_: you usually install them from xubuntu itself though | 00:20 |
| titan_ark_ | TheSheep: okay. am just starting up. so anything else needed for basic use was wat i was intending | 00:20 |
| titan_ark_ | any AV or security updates? | 00:20 |
| titan_ark_ | been on windows till date :P | 00:20 |
| TheSheep | titan_ark_: you will probably want to install codecs for mp3, movies and dvd -- they are not included, as they are illegal in some countries like USA or Japan | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | titan_ark: the update manager will tell you if there are any updates after the install finishes. | 00:21 |
| titan_ark_ | oh okay thank you :) | 00:22 |
| titan_ark_ | i have a wierd internet plan. night DLs are free so been up downloading. have 2 hours left so thought il DL anything more thats needed | 00:22 |
| TheSheep | you migth qalso have a look through getdeb.net | 00:23 |
| titan_ark_ | okay :) | 00:23 |
| titan_ark_ | shall do that | 00:23 |
| titan_ark_ | okay 1 major query i forgot to ask | 00:27 |
| titan_ark_ | the iso that i have downloaded, do i need to burn it as a bootable disc or just burn the image :P | 00:28 |
| SirEel | bwa ha ha ha by some mysteriosity, tap to click now works, so its all good | 00:28 |
| titan_ark_ | SirEel : nice :) | 00:29 |
| titan_ark_ | wat AV should i use with xubuntu? | 00:31 |
| zoredache | you really don't need any antivirus | 00:34 |
| Itacious | Lucifer_Cat = Ceiling_Cat? | 00:35 |
| * Itacious wonders if he's asked this before. | 00:35 | |
| titan_ark_ | zoredache, oh okay. its a habit from windows :P | 00:35 |
| Itacious | titan_ark: Welcome to Linux! :-D | 00:36 |
| Lucifer_Cat | Itacious: no. | 00:36 |
| Itacious | oh. OK. | 00:36 |
| Itacious | lol, that was funny. | 00:36 |
| titan_ark_ | itacious: windows has been like a pain in the neck and i want to get rid of it :P | 00:36 |
| Itacious | "no." | 00:37 |
| Lucifer_Cat | would you be looking for him? | 00:37 |
| Itacious | No, just wondering. | 00:37 |
| Itacious | So.... anybody know of a mixer for the sys tray? | 00:38 |
| benjamin_1 | I need lots of help setting up internet on newly installed Xubuntu system! | 00:42 |
| Lucifer_Cat | benjamin_1: ethernet/cable? | 00:42 |
| benjamin_1 | ethernet | 00:42 |
| benjamin_1 | through ptd.net MTE (multi tenant ethernet) | 00:43 |
| * Itacious should hang around here more often. Read: First time in this channel. | 00:43 | |
| benjamin_1 | Lucifer_Cat: Can you help? | 00:44 |
| Lucifer_Cat | if "just plug it in" is considered help, then sure. | 00:45 |
| Lucifer_Cat | otherwise no. | 00:45 |
| Lucifer_Cat | mine worked out of the box | 00:45 |
| benjamin_1 | Lucifer_Cat: I'm getting pretty screwed from my ISP. | 00:45 |
| zoredache | benjamin_1: did you have your networking under the other OS? Have you documented all the settings you had to make there? | 00:46 |
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| benjamin_1 | zoredache: The other OS is Vista Home Premium x64. I'm writing down the information for ipconfig /all as we speak. as for settings on Vista, I have to enter a given username and password, into either a popup box or firefox (page redirected to ptd.net login site). Does this help you out>? | 00:48 |
| Itacious | To Synaptic: You're telling me, with all your trinket and doodad packages, there is not a single package for volume control in the notification area/system tray?!?! | 00:48 |
| zoredache | benjamin_1: so under linux what happens? | 00:49 |
| zoredache | is your network card recognized, do you get an ip address, are you unable to login to the portable? | 00:49 |
| j1mc | Itacious: of course there's a volume applet | 00:49 |
| Itacious | for the tray? | 00:49 |
| benjamin_1 | connects to Auto Eth0. then nothing. Have attempted to change items in Network Configuration. but no luck. | 00:50 |
| Itacious | one that isn't a panel applet? | 00:50 |
| benjamin_1 | Can you run me through how to tell those items in 5 mins? | 00:50 |
| j1mc | Itacious: oh, ok... yeah, it's a panel applet. what's wrong with that? | 00:50 |
| fortunev | can I search for available xubuntu packages from the command line? | 00:50 |
| zoredache | fortunev: 'apt cache search pattern' | 00:51 |
| Itacious | let me paste what i said earlier. | 00:51 |
| zoredache | apt-cache search rather | 00:51 |
| fortunev | you guys are awesome! | 00:51 |
| Itacious | Hey all, I have xfce set up with a 48px panel, iconbox, etc. (a la Windows 7). I have just discovered (or rediscovered) that the xfce tray supports multiple columns, so now the icons aren't huge (YES!). But, if I put the standard xfce volume applet down there, it blows up to 48x48px. So, in short, does anybody know of a package that is a volume manger(?) for the system tray? Thanks in advance. | 00:51 |
| Itacious | (06:53:25 PM) charlie-tca: This new keyboard I bought doesn't seem to spell any better than my old one... | 00:51 |
| fortunev | thanks | 00:51 |
| Itacious | oops | 00:51 |
| titan_ark_ | okay a few final questions before i log off and get an hrs sleep: | 00:51 |
| benjamin_1 | zoredache:Thanks, Ill try that and report back once I finish copying this windows ipconfig, and restart | 00:52 |
| titan_ark_ | at getdeb.net i saw that most s/ws were for gnome so i cant use them for xubuntu? | 00:52 |
| fortunev | zoredache: would 'apt cache search emacs' search for emacs packages? | 00:54 |
| zoredache | apt-cache search emacs | 00:54 |
| fortunev | thks | 00:54 |
| zoredache | titan_ark_: you would need to install some gnome libraries if you didn't have them already. You will be able to run the applications | 00:55 |
| titan_ark_ | zoredache: oh okay thx :) i guess il rather install xubuntu and then start from there | 00:56 |
| titan_ark_ | no point asking questions without experiencing the problems | 00:56 |
| titan_ark_ | :P | 00:56 |
| Itacious | Good luck with linux! | 00:56 |
| titan_ark_ | oh by the way does the regular chatzilla plugin work? | 00:56 |
| titan_ark_ | wat irc client would i need? | 00:57 |
| titan_ark_ | thx a ton Itacious | 00:57 |
| Itacious | i think it works without anything else. | 00:57 |
| Itacious | Go and install it to check. :P | 00:57 |
| titan_ark_ | I would need an irc client right? | 00:57 |
| titan_ark_ | i use mirc or the chatzilla plugin on windows | 00:58 |
| Itacious | ChatZilla IS an IRC client. | 00:58 |
| titan_ark_ | yes | 00:58 |
| titan_ark_ | okay | 00:58 |
| titan_ark_ | i was asking once i am on xubuntu :P | 00:58 |
| Itacious | try xchat though. | 00:58 |
| titan_ark_ | okay | 00:58 |
| Itacious | it's included with xubuntu | 00:58 |
| titan_ark_ | thx | 00:58 |
| Itacious | bye. | 00:58 |
| titan_ark_ | cya | 00:58 |
| titan_ark_ | thx a ton once again :) | 00:59 |
| Itacious | See you next time! | 00:59 |
| benjamin_1 | zoredache:ok zoredache what do i have to do | 00:59 |
| Itacious | Hopefully I'll be on this channel often. | 00:59 |
| titan_ark_ | yes | 00:59 |
| titan_ark_ | :) | 00:59 |
| titan_ark_ | adios :) | 00:59 |
| benjamin_1 | zoredache:ok zoredache what do i have to do?? | 01:01 |
| === mostlyharmless is now known as Dont|Panic | ||
| === quassel243 is now known as genii-around | ||
| === Dont|Panic is now known as mostlyharmless | ||
| benjamin_1 | zoredache:ok zoredache what do i have to do?? | 01:10 |
| Itacious | ... | 01:12 |
| Itacious | I'd say he's afk. | 01:13 |
| benjamin_1 | Itacious: yeah seems like it to me too. Can you help me? | 01:13 |
| * Itacious wasn't paying attention to the conversation. | 01:13 | |
| Itacious | With what? | 01:14 |
| Itacious | Whatcha need? | 01:14 |
| benjamin_1 | Itacious: Connecting to the internet through a Multi-tenant Ethernet connection provided by ISP ptd.net | 01:15 |
| Itacious | No, I can't. Sorry. | 01:15 |
| === mostlyharmless is now known as Lucifer_Cat | ||
| benjamin_1 | Is there someone on who can? | 01:15 |
| Itacious | You might wan't to try #ubuntu. | 01:15 |
| benjamin_1 | thanks ill check it out | 01:16 |
| Itacious | Sure. There's always more people in there. | 01:16 |
| L3 | can someone pls help me | 01:17 |
| L3 | i'm a noob here | 01:18 |
| L3 | pls | 01:18 |
| Itacious | Please state your problem and a service bot will be with you momentarily. | 01:18 |
| Itacious | j/k | 01:18 |
| Itacious | Whatcha need? | 01:18 |
| L3 | i installed xubuntu to a usb using the | 01:18 |
| L3 | make usb startup disk | 01:18 |
| L3 | after it installed | 01:18 |
| L3 | i was told to restart | 01:19 |
| L3 | and boot from the usb | 01:19 |
| L3 | so i did | 01:19 |
| L3 | after booting | 01:19 |
| zoredache | !enter | 01:19 |
| ubottu | Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! | 01:19 |
| L3 | i selected the language | 01:19 |
| benjamin_1 | zoredache:ok zoredache what do i have to do?? | 01:19 |
| L3 | in this case english | 01:19 |
| L3 | then i selected try xubuntu without any changes to the system | 01:20 |
| L3 | it then brought me to the user login screen | 01:20 |
| L3 | asking for a username | 01:20 |
| L3 | and password | 01:20 |
| Itacious | !enter | 01:20 |
| L3 | i do not know the username and password | 01:20 |
| ubottu | Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! | 01:20 |
| === j1mc is now known as _j1mc | ||
| charlie-tca | try ubuntu for user and hit enter for password? | 01:21 |
| Itacious | So you installed xubuntu to you pc from the usb key? | 01:21 |
| Itacious | Oh, nevermind. | 01:21 |
| L3 | i was using the try xubuntu without any changes from cd | 01:22 |
| L3 | live cd | 01:22 |
| Itacious | Hmmm... it shouldn't do that. | 01:22 |
| Lucifer_Cat | Itacious: !enter > {nick} works better | 01:22 |
| L3 | then installed as to a usb as a make usb startup disk | 01:22 |
| Itacious | Thanks, Lucifer_Cat | 01:22 |
| L3 | when i booted to the usb | 01:22 |
| Itacious | ok, ok. | 01:23 |
| Itacious | I get it. | 01:23 |
| L3 | and selected the same way as live cd | 01:23 |
| Itacious | I got it. | 01:23 |
| L3 | it brought me to a screen | 01:23 |
| L3 | asking for a username and password | 01:23 |
| Itacious | I UNDERSTAND. | 01:23 |
| Itacious | :P | 01:23 |
| L3 | ive tried username: user password: live | 01:24 |
| L3 | nothing | 01:24 |
| Itacious | Did you follow a howto to make the usb key? | 01:24 |
| L3 | ive tried username: root | 01:24 |
| L3 | password: root | 01:24 |
| L3 | nothing | 01:24 |
| L3 | i can not log in | 01:24 |
| L3 | the os keeps saying that i need to enter the username and password in the correct case | 01:25 |
| Itacious | Did you follow a howto to make the usb key? | 01:25 |
| Itacious | L3, ^^ | 01:25 |
| L3 | yes i've followed the how to make a xubuntu 8.10 live usb install | 01:25 |
| charlie-tca | L3: try username ubuntu password hit enter | 01:25 |
| L3 | on pendrivelinux.com | 01:25 |
| Itacious | L3, can you give me the link? | 01:26 |
| L3 | standby | 01:26 |
| L3 | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-810-install-via-the-usb-creator/ | 01:27 |
| L3 | btw | 01:27 |
| Itacious | thanks | 01:27 |
| L3 | if my wife needs this computer | 01:27 |
| L3 | i may need to log off and return with this problem | 01:27 |
| L3 | i hope you guys forgive my persistence | 01:27 |
| L3 | i am a noob | 01:27 |
| L3 | i really want to learn linux so bad | 01:28 |
| rocko | how do you over rid a burn for dvd on braser for dual layer because my dvd is more than 7.9 it is 8.5 gbs | 01:28 |
| Itacious | Hmmm. it shouldn't be asking for a user/pass. | 01:28 |
| L3 | i know | 01:28 |
| L3 | but it does | 01:28 |
| L3 | when i select livecd option on the usb boot | 01:29 |
| L3 | it goes to the login screen | 01:29 |
| Itacious | Usb Creator didn't ask for a user/pass? | 01:29 |
| L3 | and i am getting laughed at at trying to introduce linux to some folks | 01:29 |
| L3 | sorry Itacious, i can not understand your question | 01:30 |
| L3 | i followed the instructions to the letter from that link | 01:30 |
| L3 | oh wait | 01:30 |
| Itacious | The program you used to create the usb xubuntu, did it ask for a user and pass? | 01:30 |
| L3 | i understand your question | 01:30 |
| L3 | no it did not | 01:30 |
| L3 | here is the link again | 01:31 |
| L3 | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-810-install-via-the-usb-creator/ | 01:31 |
| L3 | Itacious, if you want to try | 01:31 |
| Itacious | Odd question, but did you remove the cd before booting into usb xubuntu? | 01:32 |
| L3 | and e-mail me, my e-mail is akiranma_x@yahoo.com | 01:32 |
| L3 | my wife needs the computer | 01:32 |
| L3 | btw | 01:32 |
| Itacious | Will you be back later tonight? | 01:33 |
| L3 | i did remove the cd before booting into the usb drive | 01:33 |
| L3 | i'll really try | 01:33 |
| L3 | gtg | 01:33 |
| L3 | bye | 01:33 |
| Itacious | Maybe i can help you then. | 01:33 |
| Itacious | i prefer irc over email. | 01:33 |
| Itacious | so close. | 01:33 |
| rocko | hello | 01:40 |
| Itacious | hi | 01:40 |
| rocko | how are you? | 01:40 |
| Itacious | good | 01:40 |
| rocko | I am happy my pcmcia card works :D | 01:40 |
| Itacious | :) | 01:40 |
| rocko | now my external dvd burn works | 01:40 |
| rocko | which for some reason did not want to work with usb 2 | 01:40 |
| rocko | it worked with usb 1 though | 01:41 |
| rocko | which is really slow :( | 01:41 |
| Itacious | you mean usb 1.0? | 01:41 |
| rocko | it said on the box that it is high speed usb 2 | 01:41 |
| rocko | but for some reason it does not want to work on my machine | 01:41 |
| rocko | it works on my other laptop with usb 2 fine | 01:42 |
| rocko | but that it broken now :( | 01:42 |
| rocko | yes usb 1.0 | 01:42 |
| titan_ark | hey | 01:42 |
| titan_ark | back with a problem in installation :( | 01:43 |
| Itacious | hi | 01:43 |
| Itacious | :/ | 01:43 |
| titan_ark | i reached the screen where it asks for the partitioning | 01:43 |
| rocko | compusa bought out tiger direct ? | 01:43 |
| titan_ark | now i have 4 drives each of 10 GB | 01:43 |
| Itacious | You mean 4 partitions? | 01:44 |
| titan_ark | and i had cleared drive E (the 3rd 1) to install xubuntu on it | 01:44 |
| titan_ark | oops my bad | 01:44 |
| charlie-tca | rocko: no, tiger direct bought compusa when it filed bancruptcy | 01:44 |
| titan_ark | yes 4 partitions | 01:44 |
| Itacious | oh, you mean drives. | 01:44 |
| Itacious | oh. | 01:44 |
| Itacious | lol | 01:44 |
| rocko | cool | 01:44 |
| Itacious | Go on, titan_ark. | 01:44 |
| titan_ark | while installing it doesnt give me the option to choose the drive :S | 01:44 |
| titan_ark | i guess its directly choosing C | 01:45 |
| Itacious | Well, first of all Linux doesn't use C:, D:, Z:, etc. | 01:45 |
| titan_ark | and giving me the option to select the size of the win and linux partition | 01:45 |
| titan_ark | oh okay | 01:45 |
| Itacious | basics: | 01:45 |
| Itacious | hda0 would mean | 01:46 |
| Itacious | oops. | 01:46 |
| titan_ark | sda0 | 01:46 |
| Itacious | it says sda0 | 01:46 |
| Itacious | ? | 01:46 |
| titan_ark | it showed something like dev/sda0 | 01:46 |
| titan_ark | dav/sda1 | 01:46 |
| Itacious | ok | 01:47 |
| titan_ark | *dev | 01:47 |
| titan_ark | etc | 01:47 |
| titan_ark | yup | 01:47 |
| Itacious | hda0 means harddrive a, partition number 1. | 01:47 |
| titan_ark | and it was selecting the 1st partition | 01:47 |
| titan_ark | okay | 01:47 |
| Itacious | "sd" is supposed to be SCSI i think. | 01:48 |
| titan_ark | prolly it was hda, am just a bit fagged out. been up all night its 7 am now :P | 01:48 |
| Itacious | But linux sometimes designates IDE hdd's as SCSI for some reason. | 01:48 |
| titan_ark | oh okay | 01:48 |
| Itacious | i.e., the hard drive on this pc is designated as sda, but it's IDE. | 01:49 |
| Itacious | SO... | 01:49 |
| titan_ark | okay | 01:49 |
| titan_ark | so do i need to merge 1 drive with the 1st partition now? | 01:50 |
| Itacious | hda0 would be harddrive a (1st hdd), partion 0 "1st partition" | 01:51 |
| Itacious | hdb3 would be harddrive b (2nd partition), partition 3 (4th partition) | 01:51 |
| Itacious | numbering starts at 0 instead on one. | 01:51 |
| Itacious | *of | 01:51 |
| titan_ark | yes i got that :) | 01:51 |
| Itacious | :-/ | 01:51 |
| Itacious | What do you mean merge? | 01:52 |
| titan_ark | so how do i make it select the 3rd partition? | 01:52 |
| Itacious | Alright, first of all, why do you have 4 partitions and which one(s) are windows? | 01:52 |
| titan_ark | okay, i was assuming il use a 3rd party tool like partition magic and merge the 1st and 3rd partition (if thats possible) | 01:52 |
| Itacious | Oh, I see what you mean. | 01:53 |
| titan_ark | win is installed on the 1st partition i.e. C, and i had partitioned into 4 just for convenience and as they say better drive performance | 01:54 |
| titan_ark | :P | 01:54 |
| titan_ark | i wonder hw much of a difference it does make actually on the performance | 01:54 |
| Itacious | not much if any. | 01:54 |
| Itacious | to be honest. | 01:54 |
| titan_ark | okay :P had actually read that some time back so i stuck to that practise | 01:55 |
| Itacious | unless the seperation of fragmentation would make a performance difference. idk. | 01:55 |
| Itacious | Is there anthing on the last 3 partitions? | 01:56 |
| titan_ark | yes lots of data | 01:56 |
| titan_ark | mp3s files pic etc | 01:56 |
| Itacious | is there any blank partitions? | 01:57 |
| titan_ark | blank? i have cleaned up the 3rd one just for installing linux | 01:57 |
| Itacious | ok, although i would recommend more than just 10gb. | 01:58 |
| Itacious | The installer should designate which one is windows. | 01:58 |
| Itacious | Which one does it say is windows? | 01:59 |
| titan_ark | sda0 | 01:59 |
| titan_ark | thats my C drive where i have installed xp | 01:59 |
| Itacious | ok. and your third partition is the last one you selected, right? | 01:59 |
| Itacious | oops. | 01:59 |
| Itacious | I mean created. | 01:59 |
| titan_ark | yeah thats where i wanted to install it | 02:00 |
| titan_ark | in the wubi installation it allows you to choose the drive | 02:00 |
| Itacious | wait, your using Wubi? | 02:01 |
| titan_ark | no no | 02:01 |
| Itacious | ?? | 02:01 |
| titan_ark | i just tried it now | 02:01 |
| Itacious | So which one do you want to use? | 02:01 |
| titan_ark | i was trying to install by booting frm the live disk | 02:01 |
| titan_ark | any disadvatages to using wubi? | 02:01 |
| charlie-tca | titan_ark: select "manual" at the bottom of the page, | 02:02 |
| charlie-tca | it will give you another page. | 02:02 |
| Itacious | charlie-tca, can you take it from here? | 02:03 |
| charlie-tca | sure | 02:03 |
| Itacious | thanks. bye | 02:03 |
| titan_ark | when i tried manual, in the "before" and "after" image, it showed that the entire hdd would b under linux | 02:03 |
| Itacious | see you later, titan_ark. | 02:03 |
| titan_ark | oh okay itacious | 02:03 |
| titan_ark | thx a ton :) | 02:03 |
| titan_ark | cya sometime | 02:03 |
| Itacious | your welcome! :-D | 02:03 |
| charlie-tca | It should show the entire drive, but let you pick sda2 | 02:04 |
| charlie-tca | Are there several partitions/drives in the big window after selecting manual? | 02:04 |
| titan_ark | okay so i select manual and then "next" and in the next screen that comes up it will let me pick the partition i want u mean? | 02:05 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 02:05 |
| titan_ark | no i dint want to risk going to the next scren | 02:05 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, let me bring up the screen | 02:05 |
| titan_ark | in the same screen it did not show me the option to select the partition | 02:05 |
| titan_ark | oh okay | 02:06 |
| charlie-tca | I'm bringing up the live cd to make sure I have it | 02:06 |
| titan_ark | oh okay. | 02:07 |
| titan_ark | i have just 1 system here :| so cant try out wat ur saying simultaneously | 02:07 |
| charlie-tca | I have 5, so will walk through it. | 02:07 |
| titan_ark | oh okay thx :) | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, prepare disk space - Manual | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | hit forware | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | forward, rather | 02:09 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | It will show the partitions | 02:09 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | select sda2, which should be the E drive. Click on it to hilite it. | 02:10 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:10 |
| charlie-tca | Edit partition - make sure the correct one is hilited | 02:10 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:11 |
| charlie-tca | Now, a window will open, to do what you want with the partition. If only Xubuntu is using it, you can select Ext3 Journaling file system | 02:12 |
| charlie-tca | If you want windows able to see it, select fat32 | 02:13 |
| titan_ark | okay il prefer win and linux drives to be interaccessable | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | Then use fat32 | 02:13 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | Then use as : need to select "/" which is the root file system | 02:14 |
| titan_ark | ah, i dint get that, sorry :? | 02:14 |
| charlie-tca | Sorry, use as: fat32 | 02:15 |
| titan_ark | "Use as: fat32" ? | 02:15 |
| charlie-tca | Then Mount point: "/" which is what we use to say install here | 02:15 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:15 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:15 |
| charlie-tca | Then hit Okay | 02:15 |
| charlie-tca | then forward | 02:16 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | It will ask you to enter your name, user name, password, etc. | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | Write down the user name and password. | 02:16 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | You need them to get into xubuntu. | 02:16 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | I think that should work | 02:17 |
| titan_ark | alrighty | 02:17 |
| titan_ark | :) | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | Normal drives will be C:\ = sda0 | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | d:\ = sda1 | 02:17 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:17 |
| titan_ark | got that | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | e:\ = sda2 | 02:17 |
| titan_ark | :) | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | Good luck | 02:17 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:18 |
| titan_ark | thx | 02:18 |
| titan_ark | :) | 02:18 |
| titan_ark | btw | 02:18 |
| titan_ark | wubi installation not a good idea? | 02:18 |
| charlie-tca | wubi installation is fine | 02:18 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:18 |
| charlie-tca | I don't have any copies of windows myself | 02:18 |
| titan_ark | oh okay | 02:19 |
| titan_ark | :D | 02:19 |
| titan_ark | hope i can get rid of windows soon | 02:19 |
| titan_ark | :P | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | If you use wubi, you have to do another install to get rid of windows | 02:19 |
| titan_ark | in the wubi installation it says file system is not good | 02:20 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:20 |
| titan_ark | need to get a hang of linux b4 i can say adios to good ol windows :D | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | This should be a good way to do it then | 02:21 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:21 |
| titan_ark | yes | 02:21 |
| titan_ark | better to have a dual boot | 02:21 |
| titan_ark | else will be in a tight spot in an emergency | 02:21 |
| titan_ark | :P | 02:21 |
| charlie-tca | agreed | 02:22 |
| titan_ark | okay | 02:23 |
| titan_ark | chall try it out | 02:23 |
| titan_ark | hopefully next time i log in it shall me thro xubuntu B) | 02:23 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 02:23 |
| titan_ark | adios | 02:23 |
| fortunev | what folder are application config files kept in. I am looking for the .emacs config file. not the local user one | 02:42 |
| fortunev | where can I find the .emacs config file? | 02:46 |
| zoredache | in /etc | 02:52 |
| forces | saluton | 02:53 |
| fortunev | thks | 02:53 |
| fortunev | zoredache: i found an emacs folder there but not the .emacs file | 02:57 |
| Mood | fortunev: can't you just: which emacs? | 03:03 |
| titan_ark | back :( | 03:04 |
| titan_ark | the install dint happen :( | 03:04 |
| fortunev | if I was not such a Linux noob. | 03:05 |
| fortunev | what I am looking for is the emacs config file. | 03:07 |
| titan_ark | anyone around? | 03:07 |
| Odd-rationale | nope | 03:07 |
| titan_ark | :? | 03:08 |
| Odd-rationale | :P | 03:08 |
| titan_ark | :S | 03:08 |
| Odd-rationale | :D | 03:08 |
| Odd-rationale | you having trouble installing? | 03:09 |
| titan_ark | Odd-rationale: yes. was trying xubuntu 8.10 | 03:10 |
| titan_ark | the install reached 20% and then stalled | 03:10 |
| Odd-rationale | how long did you wait? | 03:11 |
| titan_ark | about 10 minutes at that point | 03:11 |
| titan_ark | and the screen froze | 03:11 |
| titan_ark | the mouse pointer froze | 03:11 |
| Odd-rationale | hmm. have you tried the alternative install disc? it usually has less issues... | 03:11 |
| Odd-rationale | !alternative | 03:12 |
| ubottu | The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate link on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent | 03:12 |
| titan_ark | oh no :( | 03:12 |
| titan_ark | i started with ubuntu | 03:12 |
| titan_ark | 8.10 | 03:12 |
| titan_ark | then ubuntu alternate | 03:12 |
| titan_ark | now xubuntu | 03:12 |
| titan_ark | dont tell me i need to DL xubuntu alternate now :( | 03:13 |
| Odd-rationale | what happened with the alternative disc? | 03:13 |
| Odd-rationale | same? | 03:13 |
| titan_ark | wel with ubuntu i was getting stuck cos i am running a 256MB RAM system | 03:13 |
| Odd-rationale | with the install? | 03:14 |
| titan_ark | and during installation i got an error that my RAM was only 253MB | 03:14 |
| Odd-rationale | even with 256 mb even xubuntu is going to be slow... | 03:14 |
| Odd-rationale | don't even try the livecd... :P | 03:14 |
| titan_ark | :O | 03:14 |
| titan_ark | oh! | 03:15 |
| titan_ark | i was told xubuntu would work on this dinosaur of mine | 03:15 |
| titan_ark | :( | 03:15 |
| Odd-rationale | it will... | 03:15 |
| Odd-rationale | but not a whole lot better... | 03:15 |
| titan_ark | oh okay | 03:15 |
| Odd-rationale | a good distro to use on those machines is someting like Puppy Linux. | 03:16 |
| titan_ark | i dint knw that linux would give so much trouble in places where windows works fine! | 03:16 |
| Odd-rationale | very small... | 03:16 |
| titan_ark | okay | 03:16 |
| Odd-rationale | i'm not saying it won't work... | 03:16 |
| titan_ark | lol yeah | 03:16 |
| titan_ark | could it be cos i dint create a swap? | 03:16 |
| Odd-rationale | swap helps... but it is not used during install... | 03:17 |
| titan_ark | hmm okay | 03:17 |
| Odd-rationale | if you *really* wanted an ubuntu-based system... try one of these links | 03:18 |
| Odd-rationale | !lowmem | 03:18 |
| ubottu | For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. | 03:18 |
| titan_ark | yes i did c that earlier | 03:18 |
| titan_ark | would a 500MB swap do? | 03:19 |
| titan_ark | i am running a P4 265MB RAM with a 40GB HDD | 03:20 |
| Odd-rationale | swap is not a ram replacement... | 03:20 |
| titan_ark | hmmm yeah | 03:20 |
| titan_ark | i guess today is not my day | 03:23 |
| titan_ark | :| | 03:23 |
| Odd-rationale | sorry i can't help much... | 03:23 |
| titan_ark | sure, not a prob | 03:23 |
| titan_ark | thx for the help :) | 03:23 |
| titan_ark | shall try my luck once again | 03:23 |
| titan_ark | adios :) | 03:24 |
| Odd-rationale | see ya | 03:24 |
| Lucifer_Cat | ok so someone suggested this before, and im following up on it... i installed xubuntu, and then i installed packages like sshd and tightvnc etc. now what should i do so i dont have to install them again the next time i do a clean install? | 03:29 |
| Lucifer_Cat | any idea? | 03:44 |
| likemindead | Anyone having wireless problems after today's updates? | 03:47 |
| * forces no | 03:49 | |
| likemindead | :-( | 03:54 |
| likemindead | Is there a website that keeps track of all the updates? | 04:09 |
| titan_ark | B) | 04:11 |
| titan_ark | finally xubuntu-ing :D | 04:12 |
| titan_ark | Odd-rationale :) am in!!! | 04:13 |
| titan_ark | yayy! | 04:13 |
| titan_ark | feels great :P | 04:13 |
| Lucifer_Cat | titan_ark: congrats | 04:16 |
| Lucifer_Cat | what was the problem earlier? | 04:16 |
| titan_ark | Lucifer_Cat: ah dont ask, tried ubuntu live, then alternate, then xubuntu live | 04:17 |
| titan_ark | had almost given up hope | 04:17 |
| titan_ark | just took a risk and am thro :P with some data loss though | 04:17 |
| titan_ark | :D | 04:17 |
| Lucifer_Cat | so you were trying to dual boot? | 04:18 |
| titan_ark | yes | 04:18 |
| Lucifer_Cat | hmm | 04:18 |
| titan_ark | am running a dino of a PC. P4 256 MB RAM and 40 GB HDD with xp | 04:18 |
| Lucifer_Cat | i did a clean install | 04:18 |
| titan_ark | oh okay :) | 04:18 |
| Lucifer_Cat | titan_ark: P3 256megs 40 gigs | 04:18 |
| Lucifer_Cat | had xp too | 04:19 |
| titan_ark | oh okay :) | 04:19 |
| Lucifer_Cat | but didnt want any of that crap :P | 04:19 |
| titan_ark | lol | 04:19 |
| titan_ark | i hav just 1 system so couldnt risk going for a clean install | 04:19 |
| Lucifer_Cat | i have 2 laptops with windows on them... its more than enough | 04:19 |
| Lucifer_Cat | titan_ark: yeah. | 04:19 |
| Lucifer_Cat | im not even trying to install ubuntu on my laptop | 04:20 |
| titan_ark | got some really cool help here else i would've still been stuck i guess :P | 04:20 |
| titan_ark | oh okay :D | 04:20 |
| === _j1mc is now known as j1mc | ||
| titan_ark | i spent like the whole night from 12 am to 930 am now! | 04:21 |
| titan_ark | whoa | 04:21 |
| titan_ark | what an exercise | 04:21 |
| Odd-rationale | titan_ark: what did you do to make it work? | 04:22 |
| titan_ark | Odd-rationale, the swap did the ttrick i guess :P | 04:22 |
| Odd-rationale | cool | 04:22 |
| titan_ark | am thrilled | 04:23 |
| titan_ark | my 1st successful linux installation! | 04:23 |
| titan_ark | thx to everyone here! | 04:24 |
| Lucifer_Cat | the tough part is working with it every day :P | 04:32 |
| titan_ark | wel hope i can get used to it soon | 04:34 |
| titan_ark | which will be a good media player for this? | 04:34 |
| titan_ark | amarok ? | 04:34 |
| j1mc | titan_ark: congrats on your first install | 04:34 |
| Odd-rationale | for music? or for video? | 04:34 |
| j1mc | titan_ark: you're using xubuntu? | 04:34 |
| titan_ark | yes | 04:34 |
| titan_ark | xubuntu 8.10 | 04:34 |
| titan_ark | i was just looking around | 04:34 |
| j1mc | i'd recommend banshee or rhythmbox for a full-featured player. | 04:34 |
| titan_ark | amarok is a media player music+video right | 04:35 |
| j1mc | xubuntu comes with "listen" installed by default... amarok is music only | 04:35 |
| Odd-rationale | no, amarok just does audio music | 04:35 |
| titan_ark | oh okay | 04:35 |
| j1mc | amarok is also a KDE application - it will work with xubuntu, but it's probably better to stay away from KDE programs on a Xubuntu system if you can help it. | 04:36 |
| titan_ark | btw i could'nt format the partition to fat 32 :( it dint permit to install on a fat32 partition so i cant access my data on other drives :( | 04:36 |
| titan_ark | okay il keep tht in mind | 04:36 |
| j1mc | how are other drives formatted? ntfs? | 04:37 |
| titan_ark | fat32 | 04:37 |
| j1mc | or other partitions... you should be able to read/write from xubuntu to fat32 partitions | 04:37 |
| titan_ark | i had maintained it as fat32 from the beginning to enable inter accessability | 04:37 |
| titan_ark | hmmm tryin to figure it out :P | 04:37 |
| titan_ark | am lost :D | 04:38 |
| j1mc | titan_ark: you'll need to mount the partitions | 04:38 |
| j1mc | titan_ark: see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions | 04:38 |
| j1mc | i need to go to bed, but that should help you along well enough. | 04:39 |
| titan_ark | hey thx a ton :) | 04:39 |
| titan_ark | shal chk it out | 04:39 |
| titan_ark | :) | 04:39 |
| titan_ark | al righty am off for now! | 04:47 |
| titan_ark | adios everyone and thx once gain | 04:47 |
| G-Blunted | is there a graphical app to open .tar.gz files? | 04:48 |
| Reno` | mc :D | 05:03 |
| Reno` | joke | 05:03 |
| rocko | how do you burn a dvd with files from an external hard drive ? | 06:39 |
| rocko | man burners for linux SUCK | 06:42 |
| ace__ | how to use xchat? | 08:07 |
| titan_ark_ | quit () | 08:35 |
| ukff | Can anyone help with ATI Mobolity Radeon 9600 installation? Thanx | 08:36 |
| ukff | xubuntu does not see Radeon and this problem is having me... | 08:37 |
| jxander | what's wrong with xfce? why can't it keep stuff in clipboard after closing an app? or why can't it always show copy/move progressbars? | 08:47 |
| jxander | do i need a clipboard app? | 08:48 |
| titan_ark | ah am facing troublw ith mounting my drives any advice on that? | 08:56 |
| titan_ark | n00b :( | 08:56 |
| jerndoe | hi | 09:48 |
| jerndoe | trying to do a remote login to my xubuntu from a ubuntu (8.10 both of them) | 09:49 |
| jerndoe | anyone knows a good guide.. | 09:49 |
| R1cochet | is GnoMenu in the repos? i cant seem to find it | 12:11 |
| R1cochet | gnomenu | 12:11 |
| R1cochet | !gnomenu | 12:11 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomenu | 12:11 |
| R1cochet | !GnoMenu | 12:12 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about GnoMenu | 12:12 |
| TheSheep | apt-cache search gnomenu | 12:12 |
| TheSheep | or search on packages.ubuntu.com | 12:13 |
| Myrtti | isn't even in Jaunty. | 12:13 |
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| === Zac is now known as Guest26279 | ||
| _G-Blunted | if(yourhappy && youknowit){ clapyourhands(); } | 16:50 |
| TheSheep | self.hands.clap() | 17:01 |
| wormsxulla | hello | 17:06 |
| wormsxulla | i'm still trying to solve the mystery of usb keys or sd cards not mounting automatically anymore, when they previously did (at least the usb keys did) | 17:07 |
| wormsxulla | i found that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/102097 but i am a newbie and it's a bit complicated | 17:08 |
| forces | just reinstall hal | 17:08 |
| wormsxulla | forces: care to elaborate? | 17:08 |
| forces | wormsxulla, sudo apt-get purge hal && sudo apt-get install hal | 17:10 |
| forces | then check you /etc/init.d | 17:10 |
| forces | and restart hal | 17:10 |
| wormsxulla | i usually use synaptic to manage packages (i'm a newbie). so should i uninstall hal with synaptic and reinstall it? | 17:11 |
| wormsxulla | and how did the change (before: auto-mounting, now: not anymore) happen, any idea? | 17:12 |
| forces | wormsxulla, use terminal | 17:12 |
| wormsxulla | ok :) | 17:12 |
| forces | I know is new for you, but you have to use it in the future | 17:12 |
| forces | :P | 17:12 |
| wormsxulla | i'll copy what you wrote then | 17:12 |
| wormsxulla | nah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 17:13 |
| forces | ok | 17:13 |
| wormsxulla | E: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressource temporairement non disponible) | 17:14 |
| wormsxulla | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 17:14 |
| wormsxulla | which drive is E, i wonder | 17:15 |
| wormsxulla | the sd card which is mounted, maybe? | 17:16 |
| Odd-rationale | no. i think E: means error... | 17:18 |
| Odd-rationale | make sure all other apt stuff are closed... synaptic, add/remove, etc. | 17:19 |
| forces | wormsxulla, close synaptic | 17:19 |
| wormsxulla | forces: i closed it already, i'm checking what else could be opened | 17:29 |
| wormsxulla | it was the system monitor :) | 17:30 |
| wormsxulla | yikes, suppressing thunar-volman too? | 17:32 |
| * wormsxulla is scared | 17:32 | |
| Odd-rationale | !aptfix | wormsxulla | 17:34 |
| ubottu | wormsxulla: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 17:34 |
| wormsxulla | i have no idea whether an APT front-end crashed ô_o | 17:35 |
| wrms | hello again, this is wormsxulla | 17:41 |
| wrms | the eee pc crashed in the middle of the apt-get command and now i have no icon at all showing on the desktop :-( | 17:42 |
| wrms | all i have is the mouse pointer | 17:42 |
| wrms | forces: sorry to ping you, but i need help :) | 17:44 |
| forces | :O | 17:45 |
| wrms | :-( | 17:45 |
| forces | I'm trying to change mi /home ext3 to ext4 | 17:46 |
| forces | but I'm having many problems | 17:46 |
| forces | T_T | 17:46 |
| forces | http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto | 17:46 |
| wrms | well, sorry for you... but now i have one big problem: how do i get back my system? | 17:47 |
| wrms | how do i even access a terminal? | 17:47 |
| forces | wrms, reboot again | 17:48 |
| wrms | i have, it's the same: nothing on the desktop | 17:49 |
| forces | what did you do? | 17:50 |
| wrms | nothing. i typed the command you said, but my connection froze in the middle, freezing the whole computer. it happens sometimes when i download things | 17:51 |
| wrms | so i log in with my username and password, they blank desktop | 17:52 |
| wrms | the system is running obviously, so how do i get to it | 17:55 |
| forces | restart X | 17:55 |
| wrms | how? | 17:55 |
| * forces will use XFS | 17:55 | |
| forces | ext4 for jaunty | 17:55 |
| forces | :P | 17:55 |
| forces | wrms, ctrl + alt + backspace | 17:56 |
| wrms | this gets me back to the session login, which i enter, then blank desktop, no icon, nothing except the mouse pointer | 17:57 |
| wrms | someone typed a command here just before the crash happened, but of course i can't access the log on the other machine | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca | !apt-fix | 18:01 |
| ubottu | If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 18:01 |
| wrms | alright, i chose "failsafe terminal" and now i have a terminal. i'd be grateful if someone could help me get the system back to normal | 18:01 |
| wrms | thanks charlie-tca | 18:02 |
| charlie-tca | no problem. | 18:02 |
| forces | did you fix it? | 18:02 |
| wrms | noooooooooo :-( | 18:02 |
| wrms | i don't know in what state it is and what i need to do | 18:02 |
| forces | do you have panel? | 18:02 |
| forces | panels | 18:02 |
| wrms | i just have a terminal | 18:02 |
| forces | :O | 18:03 |
| forces | but I dont understand what it's the problem | 18:03 |
| forces | you just had reinstall hal | 18:03 |
| forces | a now you don't have desktop | 18:03 |
| forces | T_T | 18:03 |
| wrms | forces: i was in the middle of the sudo purge ... && sudo apt-get ... command and it crashed | 18:03 |
| forces | just do it again | 18:04 |
| wrms | and now, no desktop, no nothing, yes | 18:04 |
| wrms | well, i would, if i would remember the exact command :) | 18:04 |
| wrms | i'm not even connected to the internet! | 18:04 |
| forces | <forces> wormsxulla, sudo apt-get purge hal && sudo apt-get install hal | 18:04 |
| forces | ifconfig eth0 up | 18:05 |
| forces | dhclient eth0 | 18:05 |
| forces | and now you have internet | 18:05 |
| wrms | alright. i usually use kppp to connect, with a dial-up modem | 18:05 |
| wrms | so these commands will connect, ok? | 18:05 |
| wrms | the command does nothing, with sudo ifconfig eth0 up. i think it's not the right interface :-( | 18:09 |
| forces | that's for a DSL connection | 18:09 |
| forces | for dhcp | 18:09 |
| wrms | alright, i typed sudo kppp | 18:10 |
| forces | dial-up sucks | 18:10 |
| wrms | it's all i have | 18:10 |
| wrms | now i'm apparently connected, but i'm not back to the command line in the terminal, there is as a last line: Opener: received RemoveSecret | 18:12 |
| wrms | so how do i go back to being able to type the sudo apt-get? | 18:12 |
| wrms | alright, i finished the sudo apt-get purge etc... command, now what should i do? | 18:19 |
| mindless_ | hi everybody | 18:19 |
| wrms | hi | 18:20 |
| mindless_ | i have a little trouble here | 18:20 |
| wrms | good for you. i have a big one :p | 18:20 |
| mindless_ | i was using ubuntu now i have installed xubuntu desktop | 18:20 |
| mindless_ | :D | 18:21 |
| jf812 | if you want to install it you should do sudo apt-get install purge | 18:21 |
| mindless_ | i could only start system once.. | 18:21 |
| mindless_ | system is frozen at starting desktop manager does anyone know why :? | 18:22 |
| forces | <mindless_> i have a little trouble here | 18:22 |
| forces | <wrms> good for you. i have a big one :p<<--- hahaha | 18:22 |
| wrms | forces: i'm *really* not laughing | 18:22 |
| forces | :P | 18:22 |
| wrms | forces: i have finished the apt-get and restarted X, but still nothing shows on the desktop | 18:23 |
| forces | nothing including panels? | 18:24 |
| wrms | it says no gnome installation found if i select that in the session login | 18:24 |
| wrms | NOTHING at all | 18:24 |
| forces | use a xfce4 login | 18:24 |
| wrms | i get a message saying: you have chosen session xfce for this sessin, but your default is Launch the Xclent script. Just for this session / cancel / Make default | 18:26 |
| charlie-tca | mindless_: any errors while installing xubuntu-desktop? | 18:26 |
| forces | wrms, did you remove xfce? | 18:26 |
| wrms | ... remove xfce when? | 18:26 |
| charlie-tca | jf812: Please do not advise that. | 18:26 |
| forces | mindless_, and vrms have a similar problem | 18:26 |
| wrms | i did nothing else than the command you said!!! | 18:26 |
| forces | maybe it's a bug | 18:27 |
| forces | a big one | 18:27 |
| mindless_ | no i dont have error | 18:27 |
| mindless_ | i have started succesfully once | 18:27 |
| wrms | alright. the icons are back and so is the bottom panel | 18:27 |
| mindless_ | then i want to start compiz | 18:27 |
| charlie-tca | mindless_: what version of Xubuntu | 18:27 |
| wrms | forces: thanks | 18:27 |
| mindless_ | then desktop gone black | 18:27 |
| mindless_ | 8.10 | 18:27 |
| charlie-tca | So you installed compiz? | 18:27 |
| wrms | mindless_: oh, you too | 18:28 |
| mindless_ | yeah | 18:28 |
| forces | wrms, did you fix it? | 18:28 |
| jf812 | How do you convert a .bin to .deb? | 18:28 |
| mindless_ | i installed it was working | 18:28 |
| mindless_ | i tried to twip desktop | 18:28 |
| mindless_ | i mean cube tried to rotate it | 18:28 |
| mindless_ | that is when desktop manager dead | 18:28 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know about running compiz. I would suggest going to a tty terminal and removing compiz. Then you will have the desktop back. | 18:29 |
| mindless_ | i tried to unistall all xfce xubuntu | 18:29 |
| mindless_ | and reinstall it.. | 18:29 |
| mindless_ | but everything is same i think | 18:30 |
| charlie-tca | what command? | 18:30 |
| forces | wrms, what did you do? | 18:30 |
| mindless_ | not command i use gnome now | 18:30 |
| forces | how did you fix it? | 18:30 |
| mindless_ | by synaptics | 18:30 |
| wrms | forces: i think i did when i selected the xfce session, and but i chose "just for now" while i should have chosen "for all sessions", i suppose? | 18:30 |
| forces | and that's all? | 18:30 |
| charlie-tca | mindless_: so you removed some of xubuntu and now it is not working? | 18:30 |
| forces | only that was the "BIG PROBLEM" | 18:30 |
| mindless_ | no not really | 18:31 |
| mindless_ | i deleted it all and reinstalled as the same way | 18:31 |
| mindless_ | but nothing changed | 18:31 |
| wrms | forces: for me, having nothing on the desktop *is* a BIG PROBLEM :) | 18:31 |
| forces | :P | 18:32 |
| wrms | be right back on my saved machine! | 18:32 |
| mindless_ | system starts normally but frozen on welcome screen :S | 18:32 |
| wormsxulla | bl**dy hell, this is friday the 13th | 18:32 |
| forces | mindless_, gdm starts normally? | 18:32 |
| mindless_ | gnome :? | 18:33 |
| forces | gdm | 18:33 |
| forces | gnome-display-manager | 18:33 |
| mindless_ | i think so :S | 18:34 |
| mindless_ | every thing is fine here on gnome | 18:34 |
| mindless_ | but not the same for xfce ;( | 18:34 |
| mindless_ | do i have to restart or do something to install xfce as i did before :? | 18:35 |
| mindless_ | i just can remove it and reinstall with synaptic | 18:35 |
| forces | mindless_, start with xfce | 18:36 |
| forces | you have to choose it in gdm | 18:36 |
| forces | in session | 18:36 |
| mindless_ | yeah i know | 18:36 |
| mindless_ | but it is frozen when loading desktop manager... | 18:36 |
| mindless_ | welcome screen | 18:36 |
| mindless_ | i have changed that screen in xfce is it problem :? | 18:37 |
| wormsxulla | if i run the apt-fix tip that charlie-tca said earlier, do i risk to break something again, or is that command just checking things then repairing the broken things? | 18:37 |
| charlie-tca | mindless_: did you change it to balou? | 18:38 |
| mindless_ | can be | 18:39 |
| mindless_ | :S | 18:39 |
| mindless_ | or i think so.. | 18:39 |
| mindless_ | that was pretty cute | 18:39 |
| mindless_ | is there something wrong with balou :? | 18:42 |
| charlie-tca | It has a tendency to hang at times; mostly loops the login screen | 18:43 |
| mindless_ | :D im so lucky huh at first boot i select it.. | 18:43 |
| charlie-tca | Is it going to blank desktop and right back to login? | 18:44 |
| mindless_ | no.. | 18:44 |
| mindless_ | i cant see desktop | 18:44 |
| charlie-tca | not balou | 18:44 |
| charlie-tca | I think you have to remove compiz then | 18:44 |
| mindless_ | but desktop was black before i shut it down | 18:44 |
| mindless_ | hey if i remove xubuntu with synaptic and re install it.. | 18:46 |
| mindless_ | can i use xfce as i did before :? | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | You have to use "remove completely" | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | Then it may work | 18:48 |
| mindless_ | is there anything.. imean setting files etc not removed when removing from synaptic.. | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | check in ~/.config and make sure anything xfce got removed | 18:52 |
| mindless_ | ok thanks.. ;) | 18:53 |
| wormsxulla | forces: you'll be glad to know that now at least the usb keys are recognized automatically, although a right-click on them shows "mount" while i think they are mounted already. i had to install gnome-mount for mounting to work | 18:53 |
| charlie-tca | Those are user configuration and don't always get removed | 18:53 |
| * wormsxulla is totally confused | 18:54 | |
| charlie-tca | that was for mindless_ | 18:54 |
| wormsxulla | charlie-tca: yes yes, i know, but i'm confused with what happened on my machine | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | I am too, if it helps | 18:55 |
| wormsxulla | i'll be confused for a week or something :) | 18:55 |
| wormsxulla | charlie-tca: ahah :) | 18:55 |
| mindless_ | i will be back if i can open or not xfce.. see you.. ;) | 18:55 |
| titan_ark | hey :) the n00b is back again! can anyone help me with accessing my fat32 partitions on win xp? i tried the help on mounting partitions but couldnt figure it out | 19:01 |
| charlie-tca | from winxp or xubuntu? | 19:01 |
| titan_ark | hey charlie-tca, i want to access the fat32 partitions thro xubuntu. | 19:02 |
| forces | both read fat32 partitions | 19:02 |
| titan_ark | i had to install xupbuntu on ext3 | 19:02 |
| charlie-tca | Glad you got xubuntu working :-) | 19:03 |
| titan_ark | during installation it refused to mount on a fat32 partition so i had to select ext3 | 19:03 |
| titan_ark | charlie-tca, yes me too :) and am loving it | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know anything about fat32 partitions. maybe samba? | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | !samba | 19:03 |
| titan_ark | except for a few complexities | 19:03 |
| ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | !pyneighborhood | 19:04 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about pyneighborhood | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | !info pyneighborhood | 19:04 |
| ubottu | pyneighborhood (source: pyneighborhood): A GTK+ application that allows you to browse network shares. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-0ubuntu5 (intrepid), package size 80 kB, installed size 380 kB | 19:04 |
| titan_ark | okay il chk that out | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | one of those should work | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | I'm trying to pin down an upgrade issue today. | 19:05 |
| titan_ark | okay il chk em out | 19:05 |
| titan_ark | regarding upgrades, the system says i need to do upgrades of ~ 170MB! | 19:06 |
| mindless_ | yeah im here | 19:06 |
| mindless_ | fine im on xfce thanks everybody.. | 19:07 |
| charlie-tca | mindless_: glad it worked :-) | 19:07 |
| mindless_ | :) | 19:07 |
| mindless_ | now.. | 19:07 |
| mindless_ | =) | 19:07 |
| mindless_ | i can mount drives on gnome by just clicking them on places.. | 19:07 |
| mindless_ | trying to open them with nautilus just mounts them | 19:08 |
| mindless_ | bu i cant see any of my drvives here.. | 19:08 |
| mindless_ | what is tha matter :? | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | we don't use nautilus | 19:09 |
| mindless_ | i know | 19:09 |
| mindless_ | ijust wanna mount drives | 19:09 |
| mindless_ | but i cant even see them anywhere.. ;( | 19:09 |
| charlie-tca | check your settings in Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Desktop | 19:10 |
| mindless_ | ok.. | 19:10 |
| charlie-tca | Is it checked to show removable devices? | 19:10 |
| mindless_ | mm let me find.. | 19:11 |
| mindless_ | i cant find them because of my language :) | 19:11 |
| charlie-tca | Someplace in the menu is Desktop Settings | 19:12 |
| mindless_ | yeah removable devices.. | 19:12 |
| mindless_ | its checked | 19:12 |
| charlie-tca | and the drives are plugged in, right? | 19:13 |
| mindless_ | sure.. | 19:13 |
| mindless_ | thay are just partitons | 19:13 |
| mindless_ | i want to see them.. | 19:13 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know how to make those show up. We don't put an option for it in xubuntu | 19:14 |
| mindless_ | hmm | 19:14 |
| mindless_ | so i must mount em by terminal.. | 19:14 |
| mindless_ | first i need names :D | 19:14 |
| mindless_ | ok i can fix it i think.. | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | If they are in fstab, they may be in /media | 19:14 |
| mindless_ | thanks for your helps.. | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 19:15 |
| mindless_ | no nothing in media i have checked there.. | 19:15 |
| mindless_ | ;) | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | *shrug*; I hate them drives on my desktop | 19:15 |
| wormsxulla | charlie-tca: you hate seeing the drives on your desktop? | 19:29 |
| charlie-tca | yes, it takes up space and I seldom just access them. I mount them in /mnt if I need to access them often, otherwise, why even have them there. | 19:30 |
| charlie-tca | Most of the time, I do not need anything in them more than once. | 19:30 |
| charlie-tca | If you need them often, why not just add them when installing xubuntu? I have one partition I mount as /mnt/old-home, that is mounted all the time. | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca | It is in fstab, and always available. The other ten drives just get in my way | 19:32 |
| titan_ark | charlie-tca :( thats not making sense to me! | 19:36 |
| charlie-tca | what doesn't make sense? not having drives in the way? | 19:36 |
| titan_ark | no no | 19:36 |
| titan_ark | how to mount my damn drives! | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca | They are not part of this installation, they are separate installs of different versions. | 19:37 |
| wormsxulla | charlie-tca: why do you have ten drives showing if they are not mounted? they are connected? | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca | They are not showing in Xubuntu. | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca | titan_ark: just go to /dev/disk and find them, then you can create a folder for them on the desktop and mount them to it | 19:38 |
| charlie-tca | no, that's wrong | 19:39 |
| charlie-tca | they are fat32. That may not work. | 19:39 |
| charlie-tca | I don't really know how to do them | 19:39 |
| titan_ark | charlie-tca this is my 1st time on linux :( total n00b unable to figure i out | 19:39 |
| titan_ark | okay | 19:39 |
| titan_ark | i sound some 3rd party installs for ntfs! | 19:40 |
| titan_ark | nothing for fat | 19:40 |
| charlie-tca | I'm thinking ask a bit later, for help with mounting windows drives in Xubuntu | 19:40 |
| titan_ark | okay | 19:41 |
| wormsxulla | it looks everybody has problems with mounting drives today :) | 19:41 |
| titan_ark | :) | 19:41 |
| titan_ark | :D | 19:41 |
| titan_ark | how do i add script to fstab :S | 20:01 |
| titan_ark | i mean entries | 20:01 |
| titan_ark | i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617952 | 20:10 |
| slow-motion | hi | 20:10 |
| titan_ark | but unable to log in as root :S | 20:10 |
| titan_ark | hey | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | titan_ark: what do you mean, unable to log in as root? Open a terminal, type "sudo -i" hit enter | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | It will ask for your password, it is the same one you logged in with | 20:11 |
| titan_ark | oops yeah! | 20:12 |
| titan_ark | i read somewhere that i need to use su | 20:12 |
| titan_ark | "su" | 20:12 |
| charlie-tca | Be careful! whatever you do after sudo -i is as root. You can now completely destroy your system | 20:12 |
| charlie-tca | su is for other distros; ubuntu uses sudo | 20:13 |
| titan_ark | whoa! | 20:13 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:13 |
| titan_ark | am scared :( | 20:13 |
| titan_ark | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617952 | 20:13 |
| titan_ark | does this look good to try? | 20:13 |
| charlie-tca | No reason to be scared; just be careful. "exit" gets you out of root | 20:13 |
| titan_ark | okay :) | 20:13 |
| charlie-tca | At a quick glance, yes, looks fine. don't forget to create the mount point or it won't work | 20:14 |
| titan_ark | ah how do i do that? | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | If you put it in fstab, you should mount automatically at login | 20:14 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | the part where it says sudo mkdir /media/disk | 20:15 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:15 |
| charlie-tca | to put them on the desktop use /home/USER_NAME/Desktop/disk | 20:15 |
| titan_ark | k | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | Note the capital "D" on Desktop | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | disk is whatever name you want to call the thing | 20:16 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | the mount point and /media/disk in fstab must be the same | 20:17 |
| titan_ark | hmmm | 20:17 |
| titan_ark | not making much sense to me :S | 20:17 |
| charlie-tca | okay, from the beginning: what is your login name? | 20:18 |
| titan_ark | "home" | 20:18 |
| titan_ark | i am in root now, btw | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | you want it on the desktop, right? | 20:18 |
| titan_ark | yes | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | you log in to the desktop as "home"? | 20:19 |
| titan_ark | yes | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | okay, exit root | 20:19 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:19 |
| titan_ark | done | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | type cd and hit enter | 20:19 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | cd Desktop | 20:20 |
| titan_ark | done | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | what name do you want to call the windows partition? | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | mkdir ????? | 20:21 |
| titan_ark | will this change how i will access them thro windows? | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | ?????= the name you want to call it | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | no | 20:21 |
| titan_ark | i want wat i have in windows to be the same | 20:21 |
| titan_ark | dont want to loose any data there | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | This is to access windows drive from xubuntu | 20:21 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | You can lose whatever you change on the drive | 20:22 |
| titan_ark | can i call them "C", "D" etc? | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | If you want. use mkdir D | 20:22 |
| titan_ark | okay, wat changes i do here will be seen in windows, thats okay :) | 20:22 |
| titan_ark | okay done | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | you should now have a folder called "D" on the desktop | 20:23 |
| titan_ark | yes i see that :) | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | cd /etc | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | what is the drive in /dev ? | 20:24 |
| charlie-tca | you know, like /dev/sda1 ? | 20:24 |
| titan_ark | sda 1 yes | 20:24 |
| titan_ark | 1,2,3,4 | 20:24 |
| charlie-tca | now it gets a little bit tricky. You are going to use nano to edit fstab. Be careful, it does not have mouse movements | 20:25 |
| titan_ark | cd/ etc gives an error: no such files or directory | 20:25 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | That's because you put the space in the wrong place. cd /etc | 20:25 |
| titan_ark | oh my bad! | 20:26 |
| titan_ark | ok thats done | 20:26 |
| charlie-tca | if you do this wrong, it could make it hard to get back here. | 20:27 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:27 |
| charlie-tca | sudo cp fstab fstab.backup | 20:27 |
| titan_ark | how can i verify the partitions before i do it? | 20:27 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. back the file up first, then we have the original file to work with. | 20:28 |
| charlie-tca | sudo cp fstab fstab.backup | 20:28 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:28 |
| charlie-tca | that backs it up | 20:28 |
| charlie-tca | now you can change it. | 20:29 |
| charlie-tca | sudo nano fstab | 20:29 |
| charlie-tca | arrow to the bottom of the file | 20:29 |
| titan_ark | error: missing destination operand | 20:29 |
| charlie-tca | that is on the cp command? | 20:29 |
| charlie-tca | or was that nano?? | 20:30 |
| titan_ark | error: cp: missing destination file operand after fstab.backup | 20:30 |
| titan_ark | the cp command | 20:30 |
| charlie-tca | okay, try again | 20:30 |
| charlie-tca | sudo cp fstab fstab.backup | 20:30 |
| charlie-tca | make sure there are two fstab words | 20:30 |
| titan_ark | ok no error this time | 20:31 |
| titan_ark | i missed once last time | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, i know | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | sudo nano fstab | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | Use the arrow key to get to the bottom | 20:31 |
| titan_ark | done | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | Are you on a blank line now? | 20:32 |
| titan_ark | yes blank line inbetween the screen | 20:32 |
| charlie-tca | type this exact | 20:32 |
| titan_ark | oaky | 20:32 |
| titan_ark | *okay | 20:32 |
| charlie-tca | /dev/sda1 /home/your login name/Desktop/D vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0 | 20:34 |
| charlie-tca | all on one line, even if the screen moves around | 20:34 |
| charlie-tca | hit enter at the end of the line | 20:34 |
| titan_ark | how many spaces in the umask=000 0 0 | 20:35 |
| titan_ark | ? | 20:35 |
| charlie-tca | doesn't really matter, I just put a couple. | 20:35 |
| charlie-tca | It looks for spaces to know it is the next part | 20:36 |
| titan_ark | okay done | 20:36 |
| titan_ark | enter and it goes to next line | 20:36 |
| charlie-tca | hold CTRL and tap o | 20:36 |
| charlie-tca | hold CTRL and tap x | 20:36 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:36 |
| charlie-tca | should be back to /etc | 20:37 |
| charlie-tca | sudo mount -a | 20:37 |
| titan_ark | it says fila name to write after strl+o | 20:37 |
| titan_ark | *ctrl+o | 20:37 |
| charlie-tca | hit enter | 20:37 |
| titan_ark | after ctrl+o it says: "File Name to Write: fstab " | 20:38 |
| charlie-tca | Just hit enter, it will take care of it | 20:38 |
| titan_ark | do i do "ctrl+x" there? | 20:38 |
| charlie-tca | after you hit enter | 20:38 |
| charlie-tca | Enter/Return ? | 20:39 |
| charlie-tca | it should have saved and exited nano | 20:40 |
| charlie-tca | titan_ark: well? | 20:40 |
| titan_ark | where do i type "sudo mount -a" | 20:41 |
| charlie-tca | did nano go away? | 20:41 |
| titan_ark | no | 20:41 |
| charlie-tca | hold ctrl and hit x | 20:42 |
| charlie-tca | it should go away | 20:42 |
| titan_ark | after ctrl+o, cursor moved down and said "File Name to Write: fstab" | 20:42 |
| titan_ark | do i enter a name here? | 20:42 |
| titan_ark | or just ctrl+x ? | 20:43 |
| charlie-tca | and you hit Enter on the keyboard | 20:43 |
| charlie-tca | Just hit the enter key | 20:43 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:43 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:43 |
| charlie-tca | now ctrl+x | 20:43 |
| titan_ark | back to ects | 20:43 |
| charlie-tca | now | 20:43 |
| titan_ark | ect$ | 20:43 |
| charlie-tca | sudo mount -a | 20:43 |
| titan_ark | done | 20:44 |
| charlie-tca | now open D and see what is there | 20:44 |
| titan_ark | its empty :P | 20:44 |
| titan_ark | oh no | 20:44 |
| charlie-tca | Is it empty in windows too? | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | this should be your d:\ | 20:45 |
| titan_ark | no this is my C | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | then it can't be empty, it should have windows in it | 20:46 |
| titan_ark | yesy es | 20:46 |
| titan_ark | *yes | 20:46 |
| titan_ark | it took a while to show the folders | 20:46 |
| titan_ark | sorry | 20:46 |
| titan_ark | its my c drive :) | 20:46 |
| titan_ark | yay! | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | now any changes you make here will also be there when you go to c:\ | 20:47 |
| charlie-tca | If you erase a windows file, it will be gone | 20:47 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:47 |
| titan_ark | alright il keep that in mind | 20:47 |
| titan_ark | so is this permanent or every boot i need to do these commands? | 20:47 |
| titan_ark | to mount the drive | 20:48 |
| titan_ark | ? | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | Next time you boot, it should mount on it's own. If it doesn't mount just use the sudo mount -a | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | The rest will stay | 20:48 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:48 |
| titan_ark | now to mount my other partitions which all steps must i do? | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | same thing with different folders on the desktop and in fstab | 20:49 |
| titan_ark | oh okay :) | 20:49 |
| charlie-tca | type sudo fdisk -l in the terminal to see what the drives are | 20:49 |
| titan_ark | do i do a cd 1st? | 20:50 |
| titan_ark | and get out of etc? | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | don't need to | 20:50 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:50 |
| titan_ark | i can see the partitions | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | so that should tell you the /dev/sd?? part | 20:51 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:51 |
| titan_ark | yeah | 20:51 |
| charlie-tca | so now do cd | 20:51 |
| charlie-tca | cd and hit enter | 20:51 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | start with cd Desktop and go from there. | 20:52 |
| titan_ark | okay :) | 20:52 |
| titan_ark | how do i rename my C to D now? | 20:52 |
| titan_ark | sice i put the contents of C into D :P | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | did you cd to Desktop? | 20:52 |
| titan_ark | yes | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | mv D C | 20:53 |
| titan_ark | "mv: cannot stat `D': No such file or directory | 20:53 |
| titan_ark | " | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | But you have a D right? | 20:54 |
| titan_ark | yes | 20:54 |
| titan_ark | thats where we just mounted the partition | 20:54 |
| charlie-tca | sudo umount D | 20:55 |
| titan_ark | umount: D not found! | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | type cd and hit enter | 20:56 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | cd Desktop and hit enter | 20:56 |
| titan_ark | okay | 20:57 |
| titan_ark | got it | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | sudo umount D | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | note the n in imount is missing | 20:57 |
| titan_ark | wont a mkdir C and mv D C work? | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | no, because you can't move the D drive while it is mounted | 20:58 |
| titan_ark | oh okay | 20:58 |
| titan_ark | only root can unmount | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | put the sudo in front? | 20:58 |
| titan_ark | okay did that | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | mv D C | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | and hit enter | 20:59 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:00 |
| charlie-tca | The name should have changed to C | 21:00 |
| titan_ark | yes | 21:00 |
| charlie-tca | cd /etc | 21:00 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | sudo nano fstab | 21:01 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | arrow down to the line you added, arrow across to D, hit Del on your keyboard, type C | 21:02 |
| sml1226 | Hello just wondering if anybody has tried opensuse with a slow machine? | 21:02 |
| sml1226 | i have a 600Mhz celeron and 384MB ram | 21:02 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:02 |
| charlie-tca | titan_ark: Ctrl+o | 21:03 |
| charlie-tca | hit enter | 21:03 |
| charlie-tca | Ctrl+x | 21:03 |
| titan_ark | done | 21:03 |
| charlie-tca | sudo mount -a | 21:03 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:04 |
| charlie-tca | now it mounts as C | 21:04 |
| titan_ark | yes its done :) | 21:04 |
| titan_ark | !!! | 21:04 |
| titan_ark | thx a ton! | 21:04 |
| charlie-tca | now just go back to the forum page and do it for each drive you want | 21:04 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 21:04 |
| charlie-tca | It's a break from bugs today | 21:04 |
| titan_ark | you mean i ned to add individual lines in the nano? | 21:05 |
| titan_ark | okay :) | 21:05 |
| charlie-tca | Only if you want additional drives on the desktop | 21:05 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:05 |
| titan_ark | cos most of my media and data is on the other partitions | 21:05 |
| charlie-tca | Then, yes, you need to add more lines, one for each partition you want to mount | 21:06 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:06 |
| titan_ark | il try that out now | 21:06 |
| charlie-tca | but not for the xubuntu partition | 21:06 |
| titan_ark | yeah :) | 21:06 |
| titan_ark | successfully mounted all :) | 21:13 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 21:13 |
| sml1226 | opensuse on a slow pc/ps3? Looking for something light that has a good gui. Currently running xubuntu on both | 21:15 |
| sml1226 | kinda slow with compositor on | 21:15 |
| zoredache_ | sml1226: if you have questions about opensuse, you might be better off finding a channel focused on obensuse | 21:15 |
| === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache | ||
| sml1226 | and want some sort of transparency | 21:15 |
| sml1226 | well i am not specifically looking for opensuse just a good light distro and was wondering if u guys had any suggestions | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu | 21:16 |
| sml1226 | running xubuntu now and even it is a little slow | 21:17 |
| sml1226 | also tried elive but hated it | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | just a suggestion | 21:17 |
| sml1226 | it was fast though | 21:17 |
| titan_ark | sml1226, i was suggested puppylinux, try that | 21:17 |
| sml1226 | what does puppy use (gnome/kde/etc) | 21:18 |
| sml1226 | haven't tried it before | 21:18 |
| titan_ark | ah i dont have an idea frankly. i am running a P4 with 256 MB RAM | 21:21 |
| titan_ark | couldnt run ubuntu so i was suggested puppylinux | 21:21 |
| titan_ark | but finally i managed xubuntu | 21:21 |
| titan_ark | any idea how can i speed up my downloads :S usually get atleast 100kBps on windows. here my update is happening @ 35!!! | 21:23 |
| sml1226 | yeah for that xubu is fine but the restrictions in the ps3 and my pc's 600Mhz celeron w/ 384MB ram is too slow to run it smoothly | 21:23 |
| * charlie-tca thinks windows cheats on numbers | 21:24 | |
| titan_ark | sml1226 do check out puppy, am a linux n00b :P | 21:24 |
| Mood | titan_ark: firewall issues? | 21:24 |
| titan_ark | charlie-tca on utorrent i get 200 :S | 21:25 |
| sml1226 | ok thanks titan_ark will try it out | 21:25 |
| knome | titan_ark, msn file transfers? | 21:25 |
| charlie-tca | okay. I still thing windows lies | 21:25 |
| titan_ark | Mood, just installing updates, real slow download | 21:25 |
| titan_ark | lol charlie-tca | 21:25 |
| Mood | titan_ark: maybe it's the remote server. how large are your xubuntu d/l's? | 21:26 |
| * charlie-tca of course keeps his windows where it belongs, in the wall | 21:26 | |
| titan_ark | Mood, its ~170MB | 21:26 |
| titan_ark | am unchecking the "suggested updates" now | 21:27 |
| Mood | titan_ark: wow that's a lot... all kernel related? | 21:27 |
| titan_ark | Mood: :P i cant tell the difference, a n00b, and i just started linux this morning | 21:28 |
| Mood | titan_ark: ah ok. we all have to start somewhere :-) | 21:28 |
| titan_ark | Mood: all security updates come up to 121MB | 21:29 |
| Mood | titan_ark: installed from 8.10? | 21:30 |
| titan_ark | yes | 21:30 |
| titan_ark | perl base, thunderbird installations are security updates! | 21:31 |
| titan_ark | any settings i need to modify? to improve speeds? | 21:32 |
| Mood | titan_ark: did you forward your port on that linux box? | 21:33 |
| titan_ark | no i dint | 21:33 |
| titan_ark | how do i do that here! | 21:33 |
| steelcityjim | i just loaded ubuntu desktop | 21:34 |
| Mood | hmm... i think i spoke too soon... not sure which ports are used for the xubuntu downloads... | 21:34 |
| steelcityjim | and it indicates 247 updates available | 21:34 |
| steelcityjim | do i need to install all these/ | 21:34 |
| titan_ark | Mood oh :( | 21:34 |
| steelcityjim | im new to ubuntu | 21:35 |
| titan_ark | steelcityjim :D same here! 160 updates for xubuntu | 21:35 |
| steelcityjim | so do you do it? | 21:35 |
| charlie-tca | steelcityjim: better question for #ubuntu; we deal mostly with Xubuntu | 21:35 |
| steelcityjim | whats xubuntu? | 21:35 |
| charlie-tca | ubuntu with xfce for a desktop | 21:36 |
| steelcityjim | hmm ok | 21:36 |
| titan_ark | i guess you can skip the "suggested" updates and do the security updates only if you want to | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu works on older and slower equipment than Ubuntu | 21:36 |
| Mood | titan_ark: ok, now you made me very curious about the ports for sudo apt-get install... | 21:37 |
| titan_ark | Mood: okay :) i am a total n00b. never played around. and just started on linux now | 21:38 |
| titan_ark | Mood: few hours back i did install vlc | 21:40 |
| titan_ark | was getting ~190+kBps then | 21:41 |
| Mood | titan_ark: ok, from what i'm finding out, i think apt-get uses port 80 (http) | 21:41 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:41 |
| Mood | titan_ark: so it should be open if you can surf the web | 21:41 |
| titan_ark | hmm okay | 21:42 |
| Mood | titan_ark: so, if it's not a port forwarding issue, i'm guessing it's just the remote server load | 21:42 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:43 |
| titan_ark | or probably my connection has gone down now! | 21:43 |
| titan_ark | but at this time i usually get the best speeds | 21:44 |
| Mood | titan_ark: what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list? | 21:46 |
| Mood | use paste.ubuntu.com | 21:47 |
| titan_ark | Mood: sorry but ul have to tell me how to get there :P am a bit confused with all this | 21:48 |
| Mood | titan_ark: are you in mumbai? | 21:49 |
| Mood | titan_ark: india/ | 21:49 |
| Mood | india? | 21:49 |
| titan_ark | yes india | 21:49 |
| titan_ark | how did you get that? | 21:49 |
| Mood | ok, so one possibility is that the default servers you are downloading from are very far away. so editing the sources.list will point to a mirrored server closer to you | 21:49 |
| titan_ark | oh okay | 21:50 |
| titan_ark | how do i get to that? | 21:50 |
| titan_ark | from the terminal? | 21:50 |
| Mood | bring up terminal | 21:50 |
| Mood | type cat /etc/apt/sources.list | 21:50 |
| titan_ark | okay | 21:50 |
| titan_ark | Mood: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117851/ | 21:53 |
| Mood | titan_ark: ah, you are already pointing to the indian repositories it seems... | 21:53 |
| Mood | titan_ark: do you see it? | 21:53 |
| titan_ark | trying to make sense out of it | 21:54 |
| titan_ark | yes | 21:54 |
| Mood | titan_ark: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com (instead of what i have, which is us.archive.ubuntu.com) | 21:54 |
| Mood | soo... | 21:54 |
| titan_ark | yes i got that | 21:54 |
| Mood | titan_ark: it would appear it's just slow network connectivity from the india server... | 21:55 |
| Mood | titan_ark: so.... i ran out of ideas... :-P | 21:55 |
| titan_ark | damn 25kB/s :O | 21:55 |
| titan_ark | lol okay :) | 21:55 |
| Mood | titan_ark: that is so slow | 21:55 |
| titan_ark | yeah! | 21:56 |
| Mood | titan_ark: are you on wireless? | 21:56 |
| titan_ark | looks like il be sleepless for another night! | 21:56 |
| titan_ark | no its an ADSL direct link | 21:56 |
| Mood | titan_ark: do you have any other downloads running? either on pc or linux? | 21:56 |
| titan_ark | no nothing at all | 21:57 |
| titan_ark | 17.6kB/s :S | 21:58 |
| titan_ark | this is bad :| | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | :(( | 21:59 |
| charlie-tca | seems painful | 21:59 |
| Mood | titan_ark: you can try a test download via ftp isntead | 21:59 |
| Mood | instead* | 21:59 |
| titan_ark | :( | 21:59 |
| titan_ark | Mood: how do i do that? | 21:59 |
| titan_ark | okay on 35 now! | 22:00 |
| Mood | ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/ubuntu/ | 22:00 |
| Mood | i think its anon ftp | 22:00 |
| Mood | try downloading a file like 10 megs | 22:01 |
| Mood | titan_ark: try this file | 22:02 |
| Mood | ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Contents-i386.gz <-- it's ~15 Megs | 22:02 |
| titan_ark | 200+ kB/s | 22:03 |
| Mood | well that's faster | 22:04 |
| titan_ark | thro mozilla i hit the download | 22:04 |
| Mood | ahh | 22:04 |
| Mood | ok, so it appears it's something on the server side. ah well | 22:04 |
| titan_ark | okay | 22:04 |
| Mood | we tried our best | 22:05 |
| titan_ark | yes :) thanks :) | 22:05 |
| Mood | soo... i'd recommend taking a nap :-P | 22:05 |
| titan_ark | i will have to stay up another consecutive night :P | 22:05 |
| titan_ark | i really need that | 22:05 |
| Mood | just let it run in the background. you can still do work on your linux box | 22:06 |
| titan_ark | yup | 22:06 |
| titan_ark | getting this installed was an 8 hr effort :D | 22:06 |
| charlie-tca | Why not sleep while it runs? | 22:06 |
| Mood | titan_ark: hmm.... just to get the basic install? that's long. wait until you start playing around w/ ssh, ftp, ddclient, samba, mysql, apache, etc etc etc :-P | 22:07 |
| titan_ark | charlie-tca i guess il do that, my eyes are drooping now :D | 22:07 |
| Mood | titan_ark: document everything btw | 22:07 |
| Mood | titan_ark: it helps tremendously | 22:08 |
| * charlie-tca took 48 hours for my first Ubuntu d/l, about 3 years ago | 22:08 | |
| titan_ark | Mood: well had to DL 3 isos, started with ubuntu live then alternate then xubuntu then repartitioning etc | 22:08 |
| * Mood downloaded redhat in 1999 on a 56k modem :-P | 22:08 | |
| charlie-tca | I only had 24k | 22:09 |
| Mood | charlie-tca: lol | 22:09 |
| titan_ark | damn i dint set this for a log :O | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | took forever | 22:09 |
| titan_ark | whoa! thats perseverence :D | 22:09 |
| Mood | titan_ark: you don't need to log it. just have mousepad up and copy+paste everything w/ notes | 22:09 |
| * charlie-tca never went past windows 3.1 | 22:09 | |
| titan_ark | Mood, oh yes :P | 22:10 |
| charlie-tca | I never liked to pay for what I could get free | 22:10 |
| titan_ark | hehe :) | 22:11 |
| titan_ark | I have a rotten ADSL plan now. nights are free. thats why have to start these things at this hour than during the day :P | 22:12 |
| charlie-tca | I remember those nights well | 22:16 |
| titan_ark | ah its yet to get completed :| | 22:29 |
| titan_ark | hey i just downloaded a flash plug in | 22:29 |
| titan_ark | how do i install it? | 22:29 |
| titan_ark | when i run it like wi do in windows its asking me for an application to run it | 22:30 |
| TheSheep | titan_ark: install flashplugin-nonfree from synaptic | 22:32 |
| TheSheep | titan_ark: you need to have the restricted repositories enabled | 22:32 |
| TheSheep | !flash | titan_ark | 22:32 |
| ubottu | titan_ark: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 22:32 |
| titan_ark | oh! | 22:32 |
| titan_ark | okay | 22:32 |
| === danielm__ is now known as danielm | ||
| la_rayis | hi everyone | 23:22 |
| la_rayis | i just bought a netbook | 23:22 |
| la_rayis | and was thinking of installing xubuntu and get rid of windowsxp | 23:22 |
| la_rayis | i read that it's possible to install ubuntu from a usb stick | 23:23 |
| la_rayis | do you know if i can apply the same procedures to install xubuntu? | 23:23 |
| DasEi | la_rayis: yes, similar | 23:26 |
| DasEi | ubottu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 23:26 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 23:26 |
| la_rayis | DasEi: i'll try them out. Thanks a lo t! | 23:31 |
| DasEi | la_rayis:size of your hd ? | 23:32 |
| DasEi | ..gone | 23:32 |
| tmuki | happy epoch! | 23:36 |
| illumin8 | Hello, does anyone know where to find the network icon that mounts local shares in xubuntu? | 23:39 |
| zoredache | local? Do you mean hard drives in your computer or on your lan? | 23:40 |
| illumin8 | im sorry, rather new to this, its my lan theres a windows machine with a share folder | 23:41 |
| zoredache | xubuntu doesn't really have a easy way to mount windows shares yet... | 23:41 |
| illumin8 | oh :( | 23:41 |
| illumin8 | thanks for answering :) | 23:41 |
| zoredache | !fusesmb | 23:41 |
| ubottu | fusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network. Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb | 23:41 |
| illumin8 | thanks | 23:41 |
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