[00:00] <charlie-tca> Ah, customizing the system.
[00:00] <zoredache> you shouldn't really need much of a script.  You could simply build a package that depends on everything you need (assuming everything is available in the repository)
[00:02] <alienkid> hi guys know any good docks that don't require compositors(tried simdock but it gave errors)
[00:02] <Lucifer_Cat> i've been apt-getting almost everything. so i suppose it should be.
[00:03] <Lucifer_Cat> zoredache: that idea is much more feasible.. thanks!
[00:03]  * Lucifer_Cat goes off to look for instructions on building packages.
[00:04] <zoredache> The debian new maintainers gude might be a starting point http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[00:07] <zoredache> I have used the 'equivs' tool on occasion to accomplish something like what you mention.  Though that isn't really what equivs was made for
[00:09] <Usr> By any chance would anyone know how to make Avant's dock do what Cairo dock's does when you mouse over it?(I'm alienkid's brother.)
[00:11] <TheSheep> assume we never saw Cairo dock
[00:11] <TheSheep> also, there is #awn where the developers themselves lurk, they are quite friendly
[00:13] <Usr> Oh. How do I go about getting to their IRC?
[00:13] <Usr> (Sorry if it's a late response, I'm looking at a Wiki article, too.)
[00:15] <TheSheep> Usr: /j #awn
[00:17] <alienkid> so any good non-compositor docks?
[00:17]  * charlie-tca never turns compositor on
[00:18] <alienkid> charlie same here
[00:18] <TheSheep> I suppose you can make something with the standard xfce4-panel and iconbox panel plugin...
[00:18] <TheSheep> but it's not quite it
[00:19] <titan_ark_> hey, another n00b doubt: do i need to Dl any add ons to install along with xubuntu?
[00:19] <TheSheep> hey max
[00:19] <TheSheep> titan_ark_: depends on what you want to use, default set of application is not necessarily complete
[00:20] <TheSheep> titan_ark_: you usually install them from xubuntu itself though
[00:20] <titan_ark_> TheSheep: okay. am just starting up. so anything else needed for basic use was wat i was intending
[00:20] <titan_ark_> any AV or security updates?
[00:20] <titan_ark_> been on windows till date :P
[00:21] <TheSheep> titan_ark_: you will probably want to install codecs for mp3, movies and dvd -- they are not included, as they are illegal in some countries like USA or Japan
[00:21] <charlie-tca> titan_ark: the update manager will tell you if there are any updates after the install finishes.
[00:22] <titan_ark_> oh okay thank you :)
[00:22] <titan_ark_> i have a wierd internet plan. night DLs are free so been up downloading. have 2 hours left so thought il DL anything more thats needed
[00:23] <TheSheep> you migth qalso have a look through getdeb.net
[00:23] <titan_ark_> okay :)
[00:23] <titan_ark_> shall do that
[00:27] <titan_ark_> okay 1 major query i forgot to ask
[00:28] <titan_ark_> the iso that i have downloaded, do i need to burn it as a bootable disc or just burn the image :P
[00:28] <SirEel> bwa ha ha ha by some mysteriosity, tap to click now works, so its all good
[00:29] <titan_ark_> SirEel : nice :)
[00:31] <titan_ark_> wat AV should i use with xubuntu?
[00:34] <zoredache> you really don't need any antivirus
[00:35] <Itacious> Lucifer_Cat = Ceiling_Cat?
[00:35]  * Itacious wonders if he's asked this before.
[00:35] <titan_ark_> zoredache, oh okay. its a habit from windows :P
[00:36] <Itacious> titan_ark: Welcome to Linux! :-D
[00:36] <Lucifer_Cat> Itacious: no.
[00:36] <Itacious> oh. OK.
[00:36] <Itacious> lol, that was funny.
[00:36] <titan_ark_> itacious: windows has been like a pain in the neck and i want to get rid of it :P
[00:37] <Itacious> "no."
[00:37] <Lucifer_Cat> would you be looking for him?
[00:37] <Itacious> No, just wondering.
[00:38] <Itacious> So.... anybody know of a mixer for the sys tray?
[00:42] <benjamin_1> I need lots of help setting up internet on newly installed Xubuntu system!
[00:42] <Lucifer_Cat> benjamin_1: ethernet/cable?
[00:42] <benjamin_1> ethernet
[00:43] <benjamin_1> through ptd.net MTE (multi tenant ethernet)
[00:43]  * Itacious should hang around here more often. Read: First time in this channel.
[00:44] <benjamin_1> Lucifer_Cat: Can you help?
[00:45] <Lucifer_Cat> if "just plug it in" is considered help, then sure.
[00:45] <Lucifer_Cat> otherwise no.
[00:45] <Lucifer_Cat> mine worked out of the box
[00:45] <benjamin_1> Lucifer_Cat: I'm getting pretty screwed from my ISP.
[00:46] <zoredache> benjamin_1: did you have your networking under the other OS?  Have you documented all the settings you had to make there?
[00:48] <benjamin_1> zoredache:  The other OS is Vista Home Premium x64.  I'm writing down the information for ipconfig /all as we speak.  as for settings on Vista, I have to enter a given username and password, into either a popup box or firefox (page redirected to ptd.net login site).  Does this help you out>?
[00:48] <Itacious> To Synaptic: You're telling me, with all your trinket and doodad packages, there is not a single package for volume control in the notification area/system tray?!?!
[00:49] <zoredache> benjamin_1: so under linux what happens?
[00:49] <zoredache> is your network card recognized, do you get an ip address, are you unable to login to the portable?
[00:49] <j1mc> Itacious: of course there's a volume applet
[00:49] <Itacious> for the tray?
[00:50] <benjamin_1> connects to Auto Eth0. then nothing.  Have attempted to change items in Network Configuration. but no luck.
[00:50] <Itacious> one that isn't a panel applet?
[00:50] <benjamin_1> Can you run me through how to tell those items in 5 mins?
[00:50] <j1mc> Itacious: oh, ok... yeah, it's a panel applet.  what's wrong with that?
[00:50] <fortunev> can I search for available xubuntu packages from the command line?
[00:51] <zoredache> fortunev: 'apt cache search pattern'
[00:51] <Itacious> let me paste what i said earlier.
[00:51] <zoredache> apt-cache search rather
[00:51] <fortunev> you guys are awesome!
[00:51] <Itacious> Hey all, I have xfce set up with a 48px panel, iconbox, etc. (a la Windows 7). I have just discovered (or rediscovered) that the xfce tray supports multiple columns, so now the icons aren't huge (YES!). But, if I put the standard xfce volume applet down there, it blows up to 48x48px. So, in short, does anybody know of a package that is a volume manger(?) for the system tray? Thanks in advance.
[00:51] <Itacious> (06:53:25 PM) charlie-tca: This new keyboard I bought doesn't seem to spell any better than my old one...
[00:51] <fortunev> thanks
[00:51] <Itacious> oops
[00:51] <titan_ark_> okay a few final questions before i log off and get an hrs sleep:
[00:52] <benjamin_1> zoredache:Thanks, Ill try that and report back once I finish copying this windows ipconfig, and restart
[00:52] <titan_ark_> at getdeb.net i saw that most s/ws were for gnome so i cant use them for xubuntu?
[00:54] <fortunev> zoredache: would 'apt cache search emacs' search for emacs packages?
[00:54] <zoredache> apt-cache search emacs
[00:54] <fortunev> thks
[00:55] <zoredache> titan_ark_: you would need to install some gnome libraries if you didn't have them already.  You will be able to run the applications
[00:56] <titan_ark_> zoredache: oh okay thx :) i guess il rather install xubuntu and then start from there
[00:56] <titan_ark_> no point asking questions without experiencing the problems
[00:56] <titan_ark_> :P
[00:56] <Itacious> Good luck with linux!
[00:56] <titan_ark_> oh by the way does the regular chatzilla plugin work?
[00:57] <titan_ark_> wat irc client would i need?
[00:57] <titan_ark_> thx a ton Itacious
[00:57] <Itacious> i think it works without anything else.
[00:57] <Itacious> Go and install it to check. :P
[00:57] <titan_ark_> I would need an irc client right?
[00:58] <titan_ark_> i use mirc or the chatzilla plugin on windows
[00:58] <Itacious> ChatZilla IS an IRC client.
[00:58] <titan_ark_> yes
[00:58] <titan_ark_> okay
[00:58] <titan_ark_> i was asking once i am on xubuntu :P
[00:58] <Itacious> try xchat though.
[00:58] <titan_ark_> okay
[00:58] <Itacious> it's included with xubuntu
[00:58] <titan_ark_> thx
[00:58] <Itacious> bye.
[00:58] <titan_ark_> cya
[00:59] <titan_ark_> thx a ton once again :)
[00:59] <Itacious> See you next time!
[00:59] <benjamin_1> zoredache:ok zoredache what do i have to do
[00:59] <Itacious> Hopefully I'll be on this channel often.
[00:59] <titan_ark_> yes
[00:59] <titan_ark_> :)
[00:59] <titan_ark_> adios :)
[01:01] <benjamin_1> zoredache:ok zoredache what do i have to do??
[01:10] <benjamin_1> zoredache:ok zoredache what do i have to do??
[01:12] <Itacious> ...
[01:13] <Itacious> I'd say he's afk.
[01:13] <benjamin_1> Itacious: yeah seems like it to me too.  Can you help me?
[01:13]  * Itacious wasn't paying attention to the conversation.
[01:14] <Itacious> With what?
[01:14] <Itacious> Whatcha need?
[01:15] <benjamin_1> Itacious:  Connecting to the internet through a Multi-tenant Ethernet connection provided by ISP ptd.net
[01:15] <Itacious> No, I can't. Sorry.
[01:15] <benjamin_1> Is there someone on who can?
[01:15] <Itacious> You might wan't to try #ubuntu.
[01:16] <benjamin_1> thanks ill check it out
[01:16] <Itacious> Sure. There's always more people in there.
[01:17] <L3> can someone pls help me
[01:18] <L3> i'm a noob here
[01:18] <L3> pls
[01:18] <Itacious> Please state your problem and a service bot will be with you momentarily.
[01:18] <Itacious> j/k
[01:18] <Itacious> Whatcha need?
[01:18] <L3> i installed xubuntu to a usb using the
[01:18] <L3> make usb startup disk
[01:18] <L3> after it installed
[01:19] <L3> i was told to restart
[01:19] <L3> and boot from the usb
[01:19] <L3> so i did
[01:19] <L3> after booting
[01:19] <zoredache> !enter
[01:19] <L3> i selected the language
[01:19] <benjamin_1> zoredache:ok zoredache what do i have to do??
[01:19] <L3> in this case english
[01:20] <L3> then i selected try xubuntu without any changes to the system
[01:20] <L3> it then brought me to the user login screen
[01:20] <L3> asking for a username
[01:20] <L3> and password
[01:20] <Itacious> !enter
[01:20] <L3> i do not know the username and password
[01:21] <charlie-tca> try ubuntu for user and hit enter for password?
[01:21] <Itacious> So you installed xubuntu to you pc from the usb key?
[01:21] <Itacious> Oh, nevermind.
[01:22] <L3> i was using the try xubuntu without any changes from cd
[01:22] <L3> live cd
[01:22] <Itacious> Hmmm... it shouldn't do that.
[01:22] <Lucifer_Cat> Itacious: !enter > {nick} works better
[01:22] <L3> then installed as to a usb as a make usb startup disk
[01:22] <Itacious> Thanks, Lucifer_Cat
[01:22] <L3> when i booted to the usb
[01:23] <Itacious> ok, ok.
[01:23] <Itacious> I get it.
[01:23] <L3> and selected the same way as live cd
[01:23] <Itacious> I got it.
[01:23] <L3> it brought me to a screen
[01:23] <L3> asking for a username and password
[01:23] <Itacious> I UNDERSTAND.
[01:23] <Itacious> :P
[01:24] <L3> ive tried username: user password: live
[01:24] <L3> nothing
[01:24] <Itacious> Did you follow a howto to make the usb key?
[01:24] <L3> ive tried username: root
[01:24] <L3> password: root
[01:24] <L3> nothing
[01:24] <L3> i can not log in
[01:25] <L3> the os keeps saying that i need to enter the username and password in the correct case
[01:25] <Itacious> Did you follow a howto to make the usb key?
[01:25] <Itacious> L3, ^^
[01:25] <L3> yes i've followed the how to make a xubuntu 8.10 live usb install
[01:25] <charlie-tca> L3: try username ubuntu password hit enter
[01:25] <L3> on pendrivelinux.com
[01:26] <Itacious> L3, can you give me the link?
[01:26] <L3> standby
[01:27] <L3> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-810-install-via-the-usb-creator/
[01:27] <L3> btw
[01:27] <Itacious> thanks
[01:27] <L3> if my wife needs this computer
[01:27] <L3> i may need to log off and return with this problem
[01:27] <L3> i hope you guys forgive my persistence
[01:27] <L3> i am a noob
[01:28] <L3> i really want to learn linux so bad
[01:28] <rocko> how do you over rid a burn for dvd on braser for dual layer because my dvd is more than 7.9 it is 8.5 gbs
[01:28] <Itacious> Hmmm. it shouldn't be asking for a user/pass.
[01:28] <L3> i know
[01:28] <L3> but it does
[01:29] <L3> when i select livecd option on the usb boot
[01:29] <L3> it goes to the login screen
[01:29] <Itacious> Usb Creator didn't ask for a user/pass?
[01:29] <L3> and i am getting laughed at at trying to introduce linux to some folks
[01:30] <L3> sorry Itacious, i can not understand your question
[01:30] <L3> i followed the instructions to the letter from that link
[01:30] <L3> oh wait
[01:30] <Itacious> The program you used to create the usb xubuntu, did it ask for a user and pass?
[01:30] <L3> i understand your question
[01:30] <L3> no it did not
[01:31] <L3> here is the link again
[01:31] <L3> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-810-install-via-the-usb-creator/
[01:31] <L3> Itacious, if you want to try
[01:32] <Itacious> Odd question, but did you remove the cd before booting into usb xubuntu?
[01:32] <L3> and e-mail me, my e-mail is akiranma_x@yahoo.com
[01:32] <L3> my wife needs the computer
[01:32] <L3> btw
[01:33] <Itacious> Will you be back later tonight?
[01:33] <L3> i did remove the cd before booting into the usb drive
[01:33] <L3> i'll really try
[01:33] <L3> gtg
[01:33] <L3> bye
[01:33] <Itacious> Maybe i can help you then.
[01:33] <Itacious> i prefer irc over email.
[01:33] <Itacious> so close.
[01:40] <rocko> hello
[01:40] <Itacious> hi
[01:40] <rocko> how are you?
[01:40] <Itacious> good
[01:40] <rocko> I am happy my pcmcia card works :D
[01:40] <Itacious> :)
[01:40] <rocko> now my external dvd burn works
[01:40] <rocko> which for some reason did not want to work with usb 2
[01:41] <rocko> it worked with usb 1 though
[01:41] <rocko> which is really slow :(
[01:41] <Itacious> you mean usb 1.0?
[01:41] <rocko> it said on the box that it is high speed usb 2
[01:41] <rocko> but for some reason it does not want to work on my machine
[01:42] <rocko> it works on my other laptop with usb 2 fine
[01:42] <rocko> but that it broken now :(
[01:42] <rocko> yes usb 1.0
[01:42] <titan_ark> hey
[01:43] <titan_ark> back with a problem in installation :(
[01:43] <Itacious> hi
[01:43] <Itacious> :/
[01:43] <titan_ark> i reached the screen where it asks for the partitioning
[01:43] <rocko> compusa bought out tiger direct ?
[01:43] <titan_ark> now i have 4 drives each of 10 GB
[01:44] <Itacious> You mean 4 partitions?
[01:44] <titan_ark> and i had cleared drive E (the 3rd 1) to install xubuntu on it
[01:44] <titan_ark> oops my bad
[01:44] <charlie-tca> rocko: no, tiger direct bought compusa when it filed bancruptcy
[01:44] <titan_ark> yes 4 partitions
[01:44] <Itacious> oh, you mean drives.
[01:44] <Itacious> oh.
[01:44] <Itacious> lol
[01:44] <rocko> cool
[01:44] <Itacious> Go on, titan_ark.
[01:44] <titan_ark> while installing it doesnt give me the option to choose the drive :S
[01:45] <titan_ark> i guess its directly choosing C
[01:45] <Itacious> Well, first of all Linux doesn't use C:, D:, Z:, etc.
[01:45] <titan_ark> and giving me the option to select the size of the win and linux partition
[01:45] <titan_ark> oh okay
[01:45] <Itacious> basics:
[01:46] <Itacious> hda0 would mean
[01:46] <Itacious> oops.
[01:46] <titan_ark> sda0
[01:46] <Itacious> it says sda0
[01:46] <Itacious> ?
[01:46] <titan_ark> it showed something like dev/sda0
[01:46] <titan_ark> dav/sda1
[01:47] <Itacious> ok
[01:47] <titan_ark> *dev
[01:47] <titan_ark> etc
[01:47] <titan_ark> yup
[01:47] <Itacious> hda0 means harddrive a, partition number 1.
[01:47] <titan_ark> and it was selecting the 1st partition
[01:47] <titan_ark> okay
[01:48] <Itacious> "sd" is supposed to be SCSI i think.
[01:48] <titan_ark> prolly it was hda, am just a bit fagged out. been up all night its 7 am now :P
[01:48] <Itacious> But linux sometimes designates IDE hdd's as SCSI for some reason.
[01:48] <titan_ark> oh okay
[01:49] <Itacious> i.e., the hard drive on this pc is designated as sda, but it's IDE.
[01:49] <Itacious> SO...
[01:49] <titan_ark> okay
[01:50] <titan_ark> so do i need to merge 1 drive with the 1st partition now?
[01:51] <Itacious> hda0 would be harddrive a (1st hdd), partion 0 "1st partition"
[01:51] <Itacious> hdb3 would be harddrive b (2nd partition), partition 3 (4th partition)
[01:51] <Itacious> numbering starts at 0 instead on one.
[01:51] <Itacious> *of
[01:51] <titan_ark> yes i got that :)
[01:51] <Itacious> :-/
[01:52] <Itacious> What do you mean merge?
[01:52] <titan_ark> so how do i make it select the 3rd partition?
[01:52] <Itacious> Alright, first of all, why do you have 4 partitions and which one(s) are windows?
[01:52] <titan_ark> okay, i was assuming il use a 3rd party tool like partition magic and merge the 1st and 3rd partition (if thats possible)
[01:53] <Itacious> Oh, I see what you mean.
[01:54] <titan_ark> win is installed on the 1st partition i.e. C, and i had partitioned into 4 just for convenience and as they say better drive performance
[01:54] <titan_ark> :P
[01:54] <titan_ark> i wonder hw much of a difference it does make actually on the performance
[01:54] <Itacious> not much if any.
[01:54] <Itacious> to be honest.
[01:55] <titan_ark> okay :P had actually read that some time back so i stuck to that practise
[01:55] <Itacious> unless the seperation of fragmentation would make a performance difference. idk.
[01:56] <Itacious> Is there anthing on the last 3 partitions?
[01:56] <titan_ark> yes lots of data
[01:56] <titan_ark> mp3s files pic etc
[01:57] <Itacious> is there any blank partitions?
[01:57] <titan_ark> blank? i have cleaned up the 3rd one just for installing linux
[01:58] <Itacious> ok, although i would recommend more than just 10gb.
[01:58] <Itacious> The installer should designate which one is windows.
[01:59] <Itacious> Which one does it say is windows?
[01:59] <titan_ark> sda0
[01:59] <titan_ark> thats my C drive where i have installed xp
[01:59] <Itacious> ok. and your third partition is the last one you selected, right?
[01:59] <Itacious> oops.
[01:59] <Itacious> I mean created.
[02:00] <titan_ark> yeah thats where i wanted to install it
[02:00] <titan_ark> in the wubi installation it allows you to choose the drive
[02:01] <Itacious> wait, your using Wubi?
[02:01] <titan_ark> no no
[02:01] <Itacious> ??
[02:01] <titan_ark> i just tried it now
[02:01] <Itacious> So which one do you want to use?
[02:01] <titan_ark> i was trying to install by booting frm the live disk
[02:01] <titan_ark> any disadvatages to using wubi?
[02:02] <charlie-tca> titan_ark: select "manual" at the bottom of the page,
[02:02] <charlie-tca> it will give you another page.
[02:03] <Itacious> charlie-tca, can you take it from here?
[02:03] <charlie-tca> sure
[02:03] <Itacious> thanks. bye
[02:03] <titan_ark> when i tried manual, in the "before" and "after" image, it showed that the entire hdd would b under linux
[02:03] <Itacious> see you later, titan_ark.
[02:03] <titan_ark> oh okay itacious
[02:03] <titan_ark> thx a ton :)
[02:03] <titan_ark> cya sometime
[02:03] <Itacious> your welcome! :-D
[02:04] <charlie-tca> It should show the entire drive, but let you pick sda2
[02:04] <charlie-tca> Are there several partitions/drives in the big window after selecting manual?
[02:05] <titan_ark> okay so i select manual and then "next" and in the next screen that comes up it will let me pick the partition i want u mean?
[02:05] <charlie-tca> yes
[02:05] <titan_ark> no i dint want to risk going to the next scren
[02:05] <charlie-tca> Okay, let me bring up the screen
[02:05] <titan_ark> in the same screen it did not show me the option to select the partition
[02:06] <titan_ark> oh okay
[02:06] <charlie-tca> I'm bringing up the live cd to make sure I have it
[02:07] <titan_ark> oh okay.
[02:07] <titan_ark> i have just 1 system here :| so cant try out wat ur saying simultaneously
[02:07] <charlie-tca> I have 5, so will walk through it.
[02:08] <titan_ark> oh okay thx :)
[02:08] <charlie-tca> Okay, prepare disk space - Manual
[02:09] <charlie-tca> hit forware
[02:09] <charlie-tca> forward, rather
[02:09] <titan_ark> okay
[02:09] <charlie-tca> It will show the partitions
[02:09] <titan_ark> okay
[02:10] <charlie-tca> select sda2, which should be the E drive. Click on it to hilite it.
[02:10] <titan_ark> okay
[02:10] <charlie-tca> Edit partition - make sure the correct one is hilited
[02:11] <titan_ark> okay
[02:12] <charlie-tca> Now, a window will open, to do what you want with the partition. If only Xubuntu is using it, you can select Ext3 Journaling file system
[02:13] <charlie-tca> If you want windows able to see it, select fat32
[02:13] <titan_ark> okay il prefer win and linux drives to be interaccessable
[02:13] <charlie-tca> Then use fat32
[02:13] <titan_ark> okay
[02:14] <charlie-tca> Then use as : need to select "/" which is the root file system
[02:14] <titan_ark> ah, i dint get that, sorry :?
[02:15] <charlie-tca> Sorry, use as: fat32
[02:15] <titan_ark> "Use as: fat32" ?
[02:15] <charlie-tca> Then Mount point: "/" which is what we use to say install here
[02:15] <titan_ark> okay
[02:15] <titan_ark> okay
[02:15] <charlie-tca> Then hit Okay
[02:16] <charlie-tca> then forward
[02:16] <titan_ark> okay
[02:16] <charlie-tca> It will ask you to enter your name, user name, password, etc.
[02:16] <charlie-tca> Write down the user name and password.
[02:16] <titan_ark> okay
[02:16] <charlie-tca> You need them to get into xubuntu.
[02:16] <titan_ark> okay
[02:17] <charlie-tca> I think that should work
[02:17] <titan_ark> alrighty
[02:17] <titan_ark> :)
[02:17] <charlie-tca> Normal drives will be C:\ = sda0
[02:17] <charlie-tca> d:\ = sda1
[02:17] <titan_ark> okay
[02:17] <titan_ark> got that
[02:17] <charlie-tca> e:\ = sda2
[02:17] <titan_ark> :)
[02:17] <charlie-tca> Good luck
[02:18] <titan_ark> okay
[02:18] <titan_ark> thx
[02:18] <titan_ark> :)
[02:18] <titan_ark> btw
[02:18] <titan_ark> wubi installation not a good idea?
[02:18] <charlie-tca> wubi installation is fine
[02:18] <titan_ark> okay
[02:18] <charlie-tca> I don't have any copies of windows myself
[02:19] <titan_ark> oh okay
[02:19] <titan_ark> :D
[02:19] <titan_ark> hope i can get rid of windows soon
[02:19] <titan_ark> :P
[02:19] <charlie-tca> If you use wubi, you have to do another install to get rid of windows
[02:20] <titan_ark> in the wubi installation it says file system is not good
[02:20] <titan_ark> okay
[02:20] <titan_ark> need to get a hang of linux b4 i can say adios to good ol windows :D
[02:21] <charlie-tca> This should be a good way to do it then
[02:21] <titan_ark> okay
[02:21] <titan_ark> yes
[02:21] <titan_ark> better to have a dual boot
[02:21] <titan_ark> else will be in a tight spot in an emergency
[02:21] <titan_ark> :P
[02:22] <charlie-tca> agreed
[02:23] <titan_ark> okay
[02:23] <titan_ark> chall try it out
[02:23] <titan_ark> hopefully next time i log in it shall me thro xubuntu B)
[02:23] <charlie-tca> :-)
[02:23] <titan_ark> adios
[02:42] <fortunev> what folder are application config files kept in. I am looking for the .emacs config file. not the local user one
[02:46] <fortunev> where can I find the .emacs config file?
[02:52] <zoredache> in /etc
[02:53] <forces> saluton
[02:53] <fortunev> thks
[02:57] <fortunev> zoredache: i found an emacs folder there but not the .emacs file
[03:03] <Mood> fortunev: can't you just: which emacs?
[03:04] <titan_ark> back :(
[03:04] <titan_ark> the install dint happen :(
[03:05] <fortunev> if I was not such a Linux noob.
[03:07] <fortunev> what I am looking for is the emacs config file.
[03:07] <titan_ark> anyone around?
[03:07] <Odd-rationale> nope
[03:08] <titan_ark> :?
[03:08] <Odd-rationale> :P
[03:08] <titan_ark> :S
[03:08] <Odd-rationale> :D
[03:09] <Odd-rationale> you having trouble installing?
[03:10] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale: yes. was trying xubuntu 8.10
[03:10] <titan_ark> the install reached 20% and then stalled
[03:11] <Odd-rationale> how long did you wait?
[03:11] <titan_ark> about 10 minutes at that point
[03:11] <titan_ark> and the screen froze
[03:11] <titan_ark> the mouse pointer froze
[03:11] <Odd-rationale> hmm. have you tried the alternative install disc? it usually has less issues...
[03:12] <Odd-rationale> !alternative
[03:12] <titan_ark> oh no :(
[03:12] <titan_ark> i started with ubuntu
[03:12] <titan_ark> 8.10
[03:12] <titan_ark> then ubuntu alternate
[03:12] <titan_ark> now xubuntu
[03:13] <titan_ark> dont tell me i need to DL xubuntu alternate now :(
[03:13] <Odd-rationale> what happened with the alternative disc?
[03:13] <Odd-rationale> same?
[03:13] <titan_ark> wel with ubuntu i was getting stuck cos i am running a 256MB RAM system
[03:14] <Odd-rationale> with the install?
[03:14] <titan_ark> and during installation i got an error that my RAM was only 253MB
[03:14] <Odd-rationale> even with 256 mb even xubuntu is going to be slow...
[03:14] <Odd-rationale> don't even try the livecd... :P
[03:14] <titan_ark> :O
[03:15] <titan_ark> oh!
[03:15] <titan_ark> i was told xubuntu would work on this dinosaur of mine
[03:15] <titan_ark> :(
[03:15] <Odd-rationale> it will...
[03:15] <Odd-rationale> but not a whole lot better...
[03:15] <titan_ark> oh okay
[03:16] <Odd-rationale> a good distro to use on those machines is someting like Puppy Linux.
[03:16] <titan_ark> i dint knw that linux would give so much trouble in places where windows works fine!
[03:16] <Odd-rationale> very small...
[03:16] <titan_ark> okay
[03:16] <Odd-rationale> i'm not saying it won't work...
[03:16] <titan_ark> lol yeah
[03:16] <titan_ark> could it be cos i dint create a swap?
[03:17] <Odd-rationale> swap helps... but it is not used during install...
[03:17] <titan_ark> hmm okay
[03:18] <Odd-rationale> if you *really* wanted an ubuntu-based system... try one of these links
[03:18] <Odd-rationale> !lowmem
[03:18] <titan_ark> yes i did c that earlier
[03:19] <titan_ark> would a 500MB swap do?
[03:20] <titan_ark> i am running a P4 265MB RAM with a 40GB HDD
[03:20] <Odd-rationale> swap is not a ram replacement...
[03:20] <titan_ark> hmmm yeah
[03:23] <titan_ark> i guess today is not my day
[03:23] <titan_ark> :|
[03:23] <Odd-rationale> sorry i can't help much...
[03:23] <titan_ark> sure, not a prob
[03:23] <titan_ark> thx for the help :)
[03:23] <titan_ark> shall try my luck once again
[03:24] <titan_ark> adios :)
[03:24] <Odd-rationale> see ya
[03:29] <Lucifer_Cat> ok so someone suggested this before, and im following up on it... i installed xubuntu, and then i installed packages like sshd and tightvnc etc. now what should i do so i dont have to install them again the next time i do a clean install?
[03:44] <Lucifer_Cat> any idea?
[03:47] <likemindead> Anyone having wireless problems after today's updates?
[03:49]  * forces no
[03:54] <likemindead> :-(
[04:09] <likemindead> Is there a website that keeps track of all the updates?
[04:11] <titan_ark> B)
[04:12] <titan_ark> finally xubuntu-ing :D
[04:13] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale :) am in!!!
[04:13] <titan_ark> yayy!
[04:13] <titan_ark> feels great :P
[04:16] <Lucifer_Cat> titan_ark: congrats
[04:16] <Lucifer_Cat> what was the problem earlier?
[04:17] <titan_ark> Lucifer_Cat: ah dont ask, tried ubuntu live, then alternate, then xubuntu live
[04:17] <titan_ark> had almost given up hope
[04:17] <titan_ark> just took a risk and am thro :P with some data loss though
[04:17] <titan_ark> :D
[04:18] <Lucifer_Cat> so you were trying to dual boot?
[04:18] <titan_ark> yes
[04:18] <Lucifer_Cat> hmm
[04:18] <titan_ark> am running a dino of a PC. P4 256 MB RAM and 40 GB HDD with xp
[04:18] <Lucifer_Cat> i did a clean install
[04:18] <titan_ark> oh okay :)
[04:18] <Lucifer_Cat> titan_ark: P3 256megs 40 gigs
[04:19] <Lucifer_Cat> had xp too
[04:19] <titan_ark> oh okay :)
[04:19] <Lucifer_Cat> but didnt want any of that crap :P
[04:19] <titan_ark> lol
[04:19] <titan_ark> i hav just 1 system so couldnt risk going for a clean install
[04:19] <Lucifer_Cat> i have 2 laptops with windows on them... its more than enough
[04:19] <Lucifer_Cat> titan_ark: yeah.
[04:20] <Lucifer_Cat> im not even trying to install ubuntu on my laptop
[04:20] <titan_ark> got some really cool help here else i would've still been stuck i guess :P
[04:20] <titan_ark> oh okay :D
[04:21] <titan_ark> i spent like the whole night from 12 am to 930 am now!
[04:21] <titan_ark> whoa
[04:21] <titan_ark> what an exercise
[04:22] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: what did you do to make it work?
[04:22] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, the swap did the ttrick i guess :P
[04:22] <Odd-rationale> cool
[04:23] <titan_ark> am thrilled
[04:23] <titan_ark> my 1st successful linux installation!
[04:24] <titan_ark> thx to everyone here!
[04:32] <Lucifer_Cat> the tough part is working with it every day :P
[04:34] <titan_ark> wel hope i can get used to it soon
[04:34] <titan_ark> which will be a good media player for this?
[04:34] <titan_ark> amarok ?
[04:34] <j1mc> titan_ark: congrats on your first install
[04:34] <Odd-rationale> for music? or for video?
[04:34] <j1mc> titan_ark: you're using xubuntu?
[04:34] <titan_ark> yes
[04:34] <titan_ark> xubuntu 8.10
[04:34] <titan_ark> i was just looking around
[04:34] <j1mc> i'd recommend banshee or rhythmbox for a full-featured player.
[04:35] <titan_ark> amarok is a media player music+video right
[04:35] <j1mc> xubuntu comes with "listen" installed by default... amarok is music only
[04:35] <Odd-rationale> no, amarok just does audio music
[04:35] <titan_ark> oh okay
[04:36] <j1mc> amarok is also a KDE application - it will work with xubuntu, but it's probably better to stay away from KDE programs on a Xubuntu system if you can help it.
[04:36] <titan_ark> btw i could'nt format the partition to fat 32 :( it dint permit to install on a fat32 partition so i cant access my data on other drives :(
[04:36] <titan_ark> okay il keep tht in mind
[04:37] <j1mc> how are other drives formatted?  ntfs?
[04:37] <titan_ark> fat32
[04:37] <j1mc> or other partitions... you should be able to read/write from xubuntu to fat32 partitions
[04:37] <titan_ark> i had maintained it as fat32 from the beginning to enable inter accessability
[04:37] <titan_ark> hmmm tryin to figure it out :P
[04:38] <titan_ark> am lost :D
[04:38] <j1mc> titan_ark: you'll need to mount the partitions
[04:38] <j1mc> titan_ark: see here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[04:39] <j1mc> i need to go to bed, but that should help you along well enough.
[04:39] <titan_ark> hey thx a ton :)
[04:39] <titan_ark> shal chk it out
[04:39] <titan_ark> :)
[04:47] <titan_ark> al righty am off for now!
[04:47] <titan_ark> adios everyone and thx once gain
[04:48] <G-Blunted> is there a graphical app to open .tar.gz files?
[05:03] <Reno`> mc :D
[05:03] <Reno`> joke
[06:39] <rocko> how do you burn a dvd with files from an external hard drive ?
[06:42] <rocko> man burners for linux SUCK
[08:07] <ace__> how to use xchat?
[08:35] <titan_ark_> quit ()
[08:36] <ukff> Can anyone help with ATI Mobolity Radeon 9600 installation? Thanx
[08:37] <ukff> xubuntu does not see Radeon and this problem is having me...
[08:47] <jxander> what's wrong with xfce? why can't it keep stuff in clipboard after closing an app? or why can't it always show copy/move progressbars?
[08:48] <jxander> do i need a clipboard app?
[08:56] <titan_ark> ah am facing troublw ith mounting my drives any advice on that?
[08:56] <titan_ark> n00b :(
[09:48] <jerndoe> hi
[09:49] <jerndoe> trying to do a remote login to my xubuntu from a ubuntu (8.10 both of them)
[09:49] <jerndoe> anyone knows a good guide..
[12:11] <R1cochet> is GnoMenu in the repos? i cant seem to find it
[12:11] <R1cochet> gnomenu
[12:11] <R1cochet> !gnomenu
[12:12] <R1cochet> !GnoMenu
[12:12] <TheSheep> apt-cache search gnomenu
[12:13] <TheSheep> or search on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <Myrtti> isn't even in Jaunty.
[16:50] <_G-Blunted> if(yourhappy && youknowit){ clapyourhands(); }
[17:01] <TheSheep> self.hands.clap()
[17:06] <wormsxulla> hello
[17:07] <wormsxulla> i'm still trying to solve the mystery of usb keys or sd cards not mounting automatically anymore, when they previously did (at least the usb keys did)
[17:08] <wormsxulla> i found that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/102097 but i am a newbie and it's a bit complicated
[17:08] <forces> just reinstall hal
[17:08] <wormsxulla> forces: care to elaborate?
[17:10] <forces> wormsxulla, sudo apt-get purge hal && sudo apt-get install hal
[17:10] <forces> then check you /etc/init.d
[17:10] <forces> and restart hal
[17:11] <wormsxulla> i usually use synaptic to manage packages (i'm a newbie). so should i uninstall hal with synaptic and reinstall it?
[17:12] <wormsxulla> and how did the change (before: auto-mounting, now: not anymore) happen, any idea?
[17:12] <forces> wormsxulla, use terminal
[17:12] <wormsxulla> ok :)
[17:12] <forces> I know is new for you, but you have to use it in the future
[17:12] <forces> :P
[17:12] <wormsxulla> i'll copy what you wrote then
[17:13] <wormsxulla> nah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:13] <forces> ok
[17:14] <wormsxulla> E: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressource temporairement non disponible)
[17:14] <wormsxulla> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:15] <wormsxulla> which drive is E, i wonder
[17:16] <wormsxulla> the sd card which is mounted, maybe?
[17:18] <Odd-rationale> no. i think E: means error...
[17:19] <Odd-rationale> make sure all other apt stuff are closed... synaptic, add/remove, etc.
[17:19] <forces> wormsxulla, close synaptic
[17:29] <wormsxulla> forces: i closed it already, i'm checking what else could be opened
[17:30] <wormsxulla> it was the system monitor :)
[17:32] <wormsxulla> yikes, suppressing thunar-volman too?
[17:32]  * wormsxulla is scared
[17:34] <Odd-rationale> !aptfix | wormsxulla
[17:35] <wormsxulla> i have no idea whether an APT front-end crashed ô_o
[17:41] <wrms> hello again, this is wormsxulla
[17:42] <wrms> the eee pc crashed in the middle of the apt-get command and now i have no icon at all showing on the desktop :-(
[17:42] <wrms> all i have is the mouse pointer
[17:44] <wrms> forces: sorry to ping you, but i need help :)
[17:45] <forces> :O
[17:45] <wrms> :-(
[17:46] <forces> I'm trying to change mi /home ext3 to ext4
[17:46] <forces> but I'm having many problems
[17:46] <forces> T_T
[17:46] <forces> http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
[17:47] <wrms> well, sorry for you... but now i have one big problem: how do i get back my system?
[17:47] <wrms> how do i even access a terminal?
[17:48] <forces> wrms, reboot again
[17:49] <wrms> i have, it's the same: nothing on the desktop
[17:50] <forces> what did you do?
[17:51] <wrms> nothing. i typed the command you said, but my connection froze in the middle, freezing the whole computer. it happens sometimes when i download things
[17:52] <wrms> so i log in with my username and password, they blank desktop
[17:55] <wrms> the system is running obviously, so how do i get to it
[17:55] <forces> restart X
[17:55] <wrms> how?
[17:55]  * forces will use XFS
[17:55] <forces> ext4 for jaunty
[17:55] <forces> :P
[17:56] <forces> wrms, ctrl + alt + backspace
[17:57] <wrms> this gets me back to the session login, which i enter, then blank desktop, no icon, nothing except the mouse pointer
[17:59] <wrms> someone typed a command here just before the crash happened, but of course i can't access the log on the other machine
[18:01] <charlie-tca> !apt-fix
[18:01] <wrms> alright, i chose "failsafe terminal" and now i have a terminal. i'd be grateful if someone could help me get the system back to normal
[18:02] <wrms> thanks charlie-tca
[18:02] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[18:02] <forces> did you fix it?
[18:02] <wrms> noooooooooo :-(
[18:02] <wrms> i don't know in what state it is and what i need to do
[18:02] <forces> do you have panel?
[18:02] <forces> panels
[18:02] <wrms> i just have a terminal
[18:03] <forces> :O
[18:03] <forces> but I dont understand what it's the problem
[18:03] <forces> you just had reinstall hal
[18:03] <forces> a now you don't have desktop
[18:03] <forces> T_T
[18:03] <wrms> forces: i was in the middle of the sudo purge ... && sudo apt-get ... command and it crashed
[18:04] <forces> just do it again
[18:04] <wrms> and now, no desktop, no nothing, yes
[18:04] <wrms> well, i would, if i would remember the exact command :)
[18:04] <wrms> i'm not even connected to the internet!
 wormsxulla, sudo apt-get purge hal && sudo apt-get install hal
[18:05] <forces> ifconfig eth0 up
[18:05] <forces> dhclient eth0
[18:05] <forces> and now you have internet
[18:05] <wrms> alright. i usually use kppp to connect, with a dial-up modem
[18:05] <wrms> so these commands will connect, ok?
[18:09] <wrms> the command does nothing, with sudo ifconfig eth0 up. i think it's not the right interface :-(
[18:09] <forces> that's for a DSL connection
[18:09] <forces> for dhcp
[18:10] <wrms> alright, i typed sudo kppp
[18:10] <forces> dial-up sucks
[18:10] <wrms> it's all i have
[18:12] <wrms> now i'm apparently connected, but i'm not back to the command line in the terminal, there is as a last line: Opener: received RemoveSecret
[18:12] <wrms> so how do i go back to being able to type the sudo apt-get?
[18:19] <wrms> alright, i finished the sudo apt-get purge etc... command, now what should i do?
[18:19] <mindless_> hi everybody
[18:20] <wrms> hi
[18:20] <mindless_> i have a little trouble here
[18:20] <wrms> good for you. i have a big one :p
[18:20] <mindless_> i was using ubuntu now i have installed xubuntu desktop
[18:21] <mindless_> :D
[18:21] <jf812> if you want to install it you should do sudo apt-get install purge
[18:21] <mindless_> i could only start system once..
[18:22] <mindless_> system is frozen at starting desktop manager does anyone know why :?
 i have a little trouble here
 good for you. i have a big one :p<<--- hahaha
[18:22] <wrms> forces: i'm *really* not laughing
[18:22] <forces> :P
[18:23] <wrms> forces: i have finished the apt-get and restarted X, but still nothing shows on the desktop
[18:24] <forces> nothing including panels?
[18:24] <wrms> it says no gnome installation found if i select that in the session login
[18:24] <wrms> NOTHING at all
[18:24] <forces> use a xfce4 login
[18:26] <wrms> i get a message saying: you have chosen session xfce for this sessin, but your default is Launch the Xclent script. Just for this session / cancel / Make default
[18:26] <charlie-tca> mindless_: any errors while installing xubuntu-desktop?
[18:26] <forces> wrms, did you remove xfce?
[18:26] <wrms> ... remove xfce when?
[18:26] <charlie-tca> jf812: Please do not advise that.
[18:26] <forces> mindless_, and vrms have a similar problem
[18:26] <wrms> i did nothing else than the command you said!!!
[18:27] <forces> maybe it's a bug
[18:27] <forces> a big one
[18:27] <mindless_> no i dont have error
[18:27] <mindless_> i have started succesfully once
[18:27] <wrms> alright. the icons are back and so is the bottom panel
[18:27] <mindless_> then i want to start compiz
[18:27] <charlie-tca> mindless_: what version of Xubuntu
[18:27] <wrms> forces: thanks
[18:27] <mindless_> then desktop gone black
[18:27] <mindless_> 8.10
[18:27] <charlie-tca> So you installed compiz?
[18:28] <wrms> mindless_: oh, you too
[18:28] <mindless_> yeah
[18:28] <forces> wrms, did you fix it?
[18:28] <jf812> How do you convert a .bin to .deb?
[18:28] <mindless_> i installed it was working
[18:28] <mindless_> i tried to twip desktop
[18:28] <mindless_> i mean cube tried to rotate it
[18:28] <mindless_> that is when desktop manager dead
[18:29] <charlie-tca> I don't know about running compiz. I would suggest going to a tty terminal and removing compiz. Then you will have the desktop back.
[18:29] <mindless_> i tried to unistall all xfce xubuntu
[18:29] <mindless_> and reinstall it..
[18:30] <mindless_> but everything is same i think
[18:30] <charlie-tca> what command?
[18:30] <forces> wrms, what did you do?
[18:30] <mindless_> not command i use gnome now
[18:30] <forces> how did you fix it?
[18:30] <mindless_> by synaptics
[18:30] <wrms> forces: i think i did when i selected the xfce session, and but i chose "just for now" while i should have chosen "for all sessions", i suppose?
[18:30] <forces> and that's all?
[18:30] <charlie-tca> mindless_: so you removed some of xubuntu and now it is not working?
[18:30] <forces> only that was the "BIG PROBLEM"
[18:31] <mindless_> no not really
[18:31] <mindless_> i deleted it all and reinstalled as the same way
[18:31] <mindless_> but nothing changed
[18:31] <wrms> forces: for me, having nothing on the desktop *is* a BIG PROBLEM :)
[18:32] <forces> :P
[18:32] <wrms> be right back on my saved machine!
[18:32] <mindless_> system starts normally but frozen on welcome screen :S
[18:32] <wormsxulla> bl**dy hell, this is friday the 13th
[18:32] <forces> mindless_, gdm starts normally?
[18:33] <mindless_> gnome :?
[18:33] <forces> gdm
[18:33] <forces> gnome-display-manager
[18:34] <mindless_> i think so :S
[18:34] <mindless_> every thing is fine here on gnome
[18:34] <mindless_> but not the same for xfce ;(
[18:35] <mindless_> do i have to restart or do something to install xfce as i did before :?
[18:35] <mindless_> i just can remove it and reinstall with synaptic
[18:36] <forces> mindless_, start with xfce
[18:36] <forces> you have to choose it in gdm
[18:36] <forces> in session
[18:36] <mindless_> yeah i know
[18:36] <mindless_> but it is frozen when loading desktop manager...
[18:36] <mindless_> welcome screen
[18:37] <mindless_> i have changed that screen in xfce is it problem :?
[18:37] <wormsxulla> if i run the apt-fix tip that charlie-tca said earlier, do i risk to break something again, or is that command just checking things then repairing the broken things?
[18:38] <charlie-tca> mindless_: did you change it to balou?
[18:39] <mindless_> can be
[18:39] <mindless_> :S
[18:39] <mindless_> or i think so..
[18:39] <mindless_> that was pretty cute
[18:42] <mindless_> is there something wrong with balou :?
[18:43] <charlie-tca> It has a tendency to hang at times; mostly loops the login screen
[18:43] <mindless_> :D im so lucky huh at first boot i select it..
[18:44] <charlie-tca> Is it going to blank desktop and right back to login?
[18:44] <mindless_> no..
[18:44] <mindless_> i cant see desktop
[18:44] <charlie-tca> not balou
[18:44] <charlie-tca> I think you have to remove compiz then
[18:44] <mindless_> but desktop was black before i shut it down
[18:46] <mindless_> hey if i remove xubuntu with synaptic and re install it..
[18:47] <mindless_> can i use xfce as i did before :?
[18:47] <charlie-tca> You have to use "remove completely"
[18:48] <charlie-tca> Then it may work
[18:51] <mindless_> is there anything.. imean setting files etc not removed when removing from synaptic..
[18:52] <charlie-tca> check in ~/.config and make sure anything xfce got removed
[18:53] <mindless_> ok thanks.. ;)
[18:53] <wormsxulla> forces: you'll be glad to know that now at least the usb keys are recognized automatically, although a right-click on them shows "mount" while i think they are mounted already. i had to install gnome-mount for mounting to work
[18:53] <charlie-tca> Those are user configuration and don't always get removed
[18:54]  * wormsxulla is totally confused
[18:54] <charlie-tca> that was for mindless_
[18:54] <wormsxulla> charlie-tca: yes yes, i know, but i'm confused with what happened on my machine
[18:55] <charlie-tca> I am too, if it helps
[18:55] <wormsxulla> i'll be confused for a week or something :)
[18:55] <wormsxulla> charlie-tca: ahah :)
[18:55] <mindless_> i will be back if i can open or not xfce.. see you.. ;)
[19:01] <titan_ark> hey :) the n00b is back again! can anyone help me with accessing my fat32 partitions on win xp? i tried the help on mounting partitions but couldnt figure it out
[19:01] <charlie-tca> from winxp or xubuntu?
[19:02] <titan_ark> hey charlie-tca, i want to access the fat32 partitions thro xubuntu.
[19:02] <forces> both read fat32 partitions
[19:02] <titan_ark> i had to install xupbuntu on ext3
[19:03] <charlie-tca> Glad you got xubuntu working :-)
[19:03] <titan_ark> during installation it refused to mount on a fat32 partition so i had to select ext3
[19:03] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, yes me too :) and am loving it
[19:03] <charlie-tca> I don't know anything about fat32 partitions. maybe samba?
[19:03] <charlie-tca> !samba
[19:03] <titan_ark> except for a few complexities
[19:04] <charlie-tca> !pyneighborhood
[19:04] <charlie-tca> !info pyneighborhood
[19:04] <titan_ark> okay il chk that out
[19:04] <charlie-tca> one of those should work
[19:05] <charlie-tca> I'm trying to pin down an upgrade issue today.
[19:05] <titan_ark> okay il chk em out
[19:06] <titan_ark> regarding upgrades, the system says i need to do upgrades of ~ 170MB!
[19:06] <mindless_> yeah im here
[19:07] <mindless_> fine im on xfce thanks everybody..
[19:07] <charlie-tca> mindless_: glad it worked :-)
[19:07] <mindless_> :)
[19:07] <mindless_> now..
[19:07] <mindless_> =)
[19:07] <mindless_> i can mount drives on gnome by just clicking them on places..
[19:08] <mindless_> trying to open them with nautilus just mounts them
[19:08] <mindless_> bu i cant see any of my drvives here..
[19:08] <mindless_> what is tha matter :?
[19:09] <charlie-tca> we don't use nautilus
[19:09] <mindless_> i know
[19:09] <mindless_> ijust wanna mount drives
[19:09] <mindless_> but i cant even see them anywhere.. ;(
[19:10] <charlie-tca> check your settings in Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Desktop
[19:10] <mindless_> ok..
[19:10] <charlie-tca> Is it checked to show removable devices?
[19:11] <mindless_> mm let me find..
[19:11] <mindless_> i cant find them because of my language :)
[19:12] <charlie-tca> Someplace in the menu is Desktop Settings
[19:12] <mindless_> yeah removable devices..
[19:12] <mindless_> its checked
[19:13] <charlie-tca> and the drives are plugged in, right?
[19:13] <mindless_> sure..
[19:13] <mindless_> thay are just partitons
[19:13] <mindless_> i want to see them..
[19:14] <charlie-tca> I don't know how to make those show up. We don't put an option for it in xubuntu
[19:14] <mindless_> hmm
[19:14] <mindless_> so i must mount em by terminal..
[19:14] <mindless_> first i need names :D
[19:14] <mindless_> ok i can fix it i think..
[19:14] <charlie-tca> If they are in fstab, they may be in /media
[19:14] <mindless_> thanks for your helps..
[19:15] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:15] <mindless_> no nothing in media i have checked there..
[19:15] <mindless_> ;)
[19:15] <charlie-tca>  *shrug*; I hate them drives on my desktop
[19:29] <wormsxulla> charlie-tca: you hate seeing the drives on your desktop?
[19:30] <charlie-tca> yes, it takes up space and I seldom just access them. I mount them in /mnt if I need to access them often, otherwise, why even have them there.
[19:30] <charlie-tca> Most of the time, I do not need anything in them more than once.
[19:32] <charlie-tca> If you need them often, why not just add them when installing xubuntu? I have one partition I mount as /mnt/old-home, that is mounted all the time.
[19:32] <charlie-tca> It is in fstab, and always available. The other ten drives just get in my way
[19:36] <titan_ark> charlie-tca :( thats not making sense to me!
[19:36] <charlie-tca> what doesn't make sense? not having drives in the way?
[19:36] <titan_ark> no no
[19:37] <titan_ark> how to mount my damn drives!
[19:37] <charlie-tca> They are not part of this installation, they are separate installs of different versions.
[19:37] <wormsxulla> charlie-tca: why do you have ten drives showing if they are not mounted? they are connected?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> They are not showing in Xubuntu.
[19:38] <charlie-tca> titan_ark: just go to /dev/disk and find them, then you can create a folder for them on the desktop and mount them to it
[19:39] <charlie-tca> no, that's wrong
[19:39] <charlie-tca> they are fat32. That may not work.
[19:39] <charlie-tca> I don't really know how to do them
[19:39] <titan_ark> charlie-tca this is my 1st time on linux :( total n00b unable to figure i out
[19:39] <titan_ark> okay
[19:40] <titan_ark> i sound some 3rd party installs for ntfs!
[19:40] <titan_ark> nothing for fat
[19:40] <charlie-tca> I'm thinking ask a bit later, for help with mounting windows drives in Xubuntu
[19:41] <titan_ark> okay
[19:41] <wormsxulla> it looks everybody has problems with mounting drives today :)
[19:41] <titan_ark> :)
[19:41] <titan_ark> :D
[20:01] <titan_ark> how do i add script to fstab :S
[20:01] <titan_ark> i mean entries
[20:10] <titan_ark> i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617952
[20:10] <slow-motion> hi
[20:10] <titan_ark> but unable to log in as root :S
[20:10] <titan_ark> hey
[20:11] <charlie-tca> titan_ark: what do you mean, unable to log in as root? Open a terminal, type "sudo -i" hit enter
[20:11] <charlie-tca> It will ask for your password, it is the same one you logged in with
[20:12] <titan_ark> oops yeah!
[20:12] <titan_ark> i read somewhere that i need to use su
[20:12] <titan_ark> "su"
[20:12] <charlie-tca> Be careful! whatever you do after sudo -i is as root. You can now completely destroy your system
[20:13] <charlie-tca> su is for other distros; ubuntu uses sudo
[20:13] <titan_ark> whoa!
[20:13] <titan_ark> okay
[20:13] <titan_ark> am scared :(
[20:13] <titan_ark> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617952
[20:13] <titan_ark> does this look good to try?
[20:13] <charlie-tca> No reason to be scared; just be careful. "exit" gets you out of root
[20:13] <titan_ark> okay :)
[20:14] <charlie-tca> At a quick glance, yes, looks fine. don't forget to create the mount point or it won't work
[20:14] <titan_ark> ah how do i do that?
[20:14] <charlie-tca> If you put it in fstab, you should mount automatically at login
[20:14] <titan_ark> okay
[20:15] <charlie-tca> the part where it says sudo mkdir /media/disk
[20:15] <titan_ark> okay
[20:15] <charlie-tca> to put them on the desktop use /home/USER_NAME/Desktop/disk
[20:16] <titan_ark> k
[20:16] <charlie-tca> Note the capital "D" on Desktop
[20:16] <charlie-tca> disk is whatever name you want to call the thing
[20:16] <titan_ark> okay
[20:17] <charlie-tca> the mount point and /media/disk in fstab must be the same
[20:17] <titan_ark> hmmm
[20:17] <titan_ark> not making much sense to me :S
[20:18] <charlie-tca> okay, from the beginning: what is your login name?
[20:18] <titan_ark> "home"
[20:18] <titan_ark> i am in root now, btw
[20:18] <charlie-tca> you want it on the desktop, right?
[20:18] <titan_ark> yes
[20:19] <charlie-tca> you log in to the desktop as "home"?
[20:19] <titan_ark> yes
[20:19] <charlie-tca> okay, exit root
[20:19] <titan_ark> okay
[20:19] <titan_ark> done
[20:19] <charlie-tca> type cd and hit enter
[20:20] <titan_ark> okay
[20:20] <charlie-tca> cd Desktop
[20:20] <titan_ark> done
[20:21] <charlie-tca> what name do you want to call the windows partition?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> mkdir ?????
[20:21] <titan_ark> will this change how i will access them thro windows?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> ?????= the name you want to call it
[20:21] <charlie-tca> no
[20:21] <titan_ark> i want wat i have in windows to be the same
[20:21] <titan_ark> dont want to loose any data there
[20:21] <charlie-tca> This is to access windows drive from xubuntu
[20:22] <titan_ark> okay
[20:22] <charlie-tca> You can lose whatever you change on the drive
[20:22] <titan_ark> can i call them "C", "D" etc?
[20:22] <charlie-tca> If you want. use mkdir D
[20:22] <titan_ark> okay, wat changes i do here will be seen in windows, thats okay :)
[20:23] <titan_ark> okay done
[20:23] <charlie-tca> you should now have a folder called "D" on the desktop
[20:23] <titan_ark> yes i see that :)
[20:23] <charlie-tca> cd /etc
[20:24] <charlie-tca> what is the drive in /dev ?
[20:24] <charlie-tca> you know, like /dev/sda1 ?
[20:24] <titan_ark> sda 1 yes
[20:24] <titan_ark> 1,2,3,4
[20:25] <charlie-tca> now it gets a little bit tricky. You are going to use nano to edit fstab. Be careful, it does not have mouse movements
[20:25] <titan_ark> cd/ etc gives an error: no such files or directory
[20:25] <titan_ark> okay
[20:25] <charlie-tca> That's because you put the space in the wrong place. cd /etc
[20:26] <titan_ark> oh my bad!
[20:26] <titan_ark> ok thats done
[20:27] <charlie-tca> if you do this wrong, it could make it hard to get back here.
[20:27] <titan_ark> okay
[20:27] <charlie-tca> sudo cp fstab fstab.backup
[20:27] <titan_ark> how can i verify the partitions before i do it?
[20:28] <charlie-tca> I don't know. back the file up first, then we have the original file to work with.
[20:28] <charlie-tca> sudo cp fstab fstab.backup
[20:28] <titan_ark> okay
[20:28] <charlie-tca> that backs it up
[20:29] <charlie-tca> now you can change it.
[20:29] <charlie-tca> sudo nano fstab
[20:29] <charlie-tca> arrow to the bottom of the file
[20:29] <titan_ark> error: missing destination operand
[20:29] <charlie-tca> that is on the cp command?
[20:30] <charlie-tca> or was that nano??
[20:30] <titan_ark> error: cp: missing destination file operand after fstab.backup
[20:30] <titan_ark> the cp command
[20:30] <charlie-tca> okay, try again
[20:30] <charlie-tca> sudo cp fstab fstab.backup
[20:30] <charlie-tca> make sure there are two fstab words
[20:31] <titan_ark> ok no error this time
[20:31] <titan_ark> i missed once last time
[20:31] <charlie-tca> yeah, i know
[20:31] <charlie-tca> sudo nano fstab
[20:31] <charlie-tca> Use the arrow key to get to the bottom
[20:31] <titan_ark> done
[20:32] <charlie-tca> Are you on a blank line now?
[20:32] <titan_ark> yes blank line inbetween the screen
[20:32] <charlie-tca> type this exact
[20:32] <titan_ark> oaky
[20:32] <titan_ark> *okay
[20:34] <charlie-tca> /dev/sda1 /home/your login name/Desktop/D vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0  0
[20:34] <charlie-tca> all on one line, even if the screen moves around
[20:34] <charlie-tca> hit enter at the end of the line
[20:35] <titan_ark> how many spaces in the umask=000 0 0
[20:35] <titan_ark> ?
[20:35] <charlie-tca> doesn't really matter, I just put a couple.
[20:36] <charlie-tca> It looks for spaces to know it is the next part
[20:36] <titan_ark> okay done
[20:36] <titan_ark> enter and it goes to next line
[20:36] <charlie-tca> hold CTRL and tap o
[20:36] <charlie-tca> hold CTRL and tap x
[20:36] <titan_ark> okay
[20:37] <charlie-tca> should be back to /etc
[20:37] <charlie-tca> sudo mount -a
[20:37] <titan_ark> it says fila name to write after strl+o
[20:37] <titan_ark> *ctrl+o
[20:37] <charlie-tca> hit enter
[20:38] <titan_ark> after ctrl+o it says: "File Name to Write: fstab "
[20:38] <charlie-tca> Just hit enter, it will take care of it
[20:38] <titan_ark> do i do "ctrl+x" there?
[20:38] <charlie-tca> after you hit enter
[20:39] <charlie-tca> Enter/Return ?
[20:40] <charlie-tca> it should have saved and exited nano
[20:40] <charlie-tca> titan_ark: well?
[20:41] <titan_ark> where do i type "sudo mount -a"
[20:41] <charlie-tca> did nano go away?
[20:41] <titan_ark> no
[20:42] <charlie-tca> hold ctrl and hit x
[20:42] <charlie-tca> it should go away
[20:42] <titan_ark> after ctrl+o, cursor moved down and said "File Name to Write: fstab"
[20:42] <titan_ark> do i enter a name here?
[20:43] <titan_ark> or just ctrl+x ?
[20:43] <charlie-tca> and you hit Enter on the keyboard
[20:43] <charlie-tca> Just hit the enter key
[20:43] <titan_ark> okay
[20:43] <titan_ark> okay
[20:43] <charlie-tca> now ctrl+x
[20:43] <titan_ark> back to ects
[20:43] <charlie-tca> now
[20:43] <titan_ark> ect$
[20:43] <charlie-tca> sudo mount -a
[20:44] <titan_ark> done
[20:44] <charlie-tca> now open D and see what is there
[20:44] <titan_ark> its empty :P
[20:44] <titan_ark> oh no
[20:45] <charlie-tca> Is it empty in windows too?
[20:45] <charlie-tca> this should be your d:\
[20:45] <titan_ark> no this is my C
[20:46] <charlie-tca> then it can't be empty, it should have windows in it
[20:46] <titan_ark> yesy es
[20:46] <titan_ark> *yes
[20:46] <titan_ark> it took a while to show the folders
[20:46] <titan_ark> sorry
[20:46] <titan_ark> its my c drive :)
[20:46] <titan_ark> yay!
[20:47] <charlie-tca> now any changes you make here will also be there when you go to c:\
[20:47] <charlie-tca> If you erase a windows file, it will be gone
[20:47] <titan_ark> okay
[20:47] <titan_ark> alright il keep that in mind
[20:47] <titan_ark> so is this permanent or every boot i need to do these commands?
[20:48] <titan_ark> to mount the drive
[20:48] <titan_ark> ?
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Next time you boot, it should mount on it's own. If it doesn't mount just use the sudo mount -a
[20:48] <charlie-tca> The rest will stay
[20:48] <titan_ark> okay
[20:48] <titan_ark> now to mount my other partitions which all steps must i do?
[20:49] <charlie-tca> same thing with different folders on the desktop and in fstab
[20:49] <titan_ark> oh okay :)
[20:49] <charlie-tca> type sudo fdisk -l in the terminal to see what the drives are
[20:50] <titan_ark> do i do a cd 1st?
[20:50] <titan_ark> and get out of etc?
[20:50] <charlie-tca> don't need to
[20:50] <titan_ark> okay
[20:50] <titan_ark> i can see the partitions
[20:51] <charlie-tca> so that should tell you the /dev/sd?? part
[20:51] <titan_ark> okay
[20:51] <titan_ark> yeah
[20:51] <charlie-tca> so now do cd
[20:51] <charlie-tca> cd and hit enter
[20:52] <titan_ark> okay
[20:52] <charlie-tca> start with cd Desktop and go from there.
[20:52] <titan_ark> okay :)
[20:52] <titan_ark> how do i rename my C to D now?
[20:52] <titan_ark> sice i put the contents of C into D :P
[20:52] <charlie-tca> did you cd to Desktop?
[20:53] <titan_ark> yes
[20:53] <charlie-tca> mv D C
[20:53] <titan_ark> "mv: cannot stat `D': No such file or directory
[20:53] <titan_ark> "
[20:54] <charlie-tca> But you have a D right?
[20:54] <titan_ark> yes
[20:54] <titan_ark> thats where we just mounted the partition
[20:55] <charlie-tca> sudo umount D
[20:55] <titan_ark> umount: D not found!
[20:56] <charlie-tca> type cd and hit enter
[20:56] <titan_ark> okay
[20:56] <charlie-tca> cd Desktop and hit enter
[20:57] <titan_ark> okay
[20:57] <titan_ark> got it
[20:57] <charlie-tca> sudo umount D
[20:57] <charlie-tca> note the n in imount is missing
[20:57] <titan_ark> wont a mkdir C and mv D C work?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> no, because you can't move the D drive while it is mounted
[20:58] <titan_ark> oh okay
[20:58] <titan_ark> only root can unmount
[20:58] <charlie-tca> put the sudo in front?
[20:59] <titan_ark> okay did that
[20:59] <charlie-tca> mv D C
[20:59] <charlie-tca> and hit enter
[21:00] <titan_ark> okay
[21:00] <charlie-tca> The name should have changed to C
[21:00] <titan_ark> yes
[21:00] <charlie-tca> cd /etc
[21:01] <titan_ark> okay
[21:01] <charlie-tca> sudo nano fstab
[21:01] <titan_ark> okay
[21:02] <charlie-tca> arrow down to the line you added, arrow across to D, hit Del on your keyboard, type C
[21:02] <sml1226> Hello just wondering if anybody has tried opensuse with a slow machine?
[21:02] <sml1226> i have a 600Mhz celeron and 384MB ram
[21:02] <titan_ark> okay
[21:03] <charlie-tca> titan_ark: Ctrl+o
[21:03] <charlie-tca> hit enter
[21:03] <charlie-tca> Ctrl+x
[21:03] <titan_ark> done
[21:03] <charlie-tca> sudo mount -a
[21:04] <titan_ark> okay
[21:04] <charlie-tca> now it mounts as C
[21:04] <titan_ark> yes its done :)
[21:04] <titan_ark> !!!
[21:04] <titan_ark> thx a ton!
[21:04] <charlie-tca> now just go back to the forum page and do it for each drive you want
[21:04] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:04] <charlie-tca> It's a break from bugs today
[21:05] <titan_ark> you mean i ned to add individual lines in the nano?
[21:05] <titan_ark> okay :)
[21:05] <charlie-tca> Only if you want additional drives on the desktop
[21:05] <titan_ark> okay
[21:05] <titan_ark> cos most of my media and data is on the other partitions
[21:06] <charlie-tca> Then, yes, you need to add more lines, one for each partition you want to mount
[21:06] <titan_ark> okay
[21:06] <titan_ark> il try that out now
[21:06] <charlie-tca> but not for the xubuntu partition
[21:06] <titan_ark> yeah :)
[21:13] <titan_ark> successfully mounted all :)
[21:13] <charlie-tca> :-)
[21:15] <sml1226> opensuse on a slow pc/ps3? Looking for something light that has a good gui. Currently running xubuntu on both
[21:15] <sml1226> kinda slow with compositor on
[21:15] <zoredache_> sml1226: if you have questions about opensuse, you might be better off finding a channel focused on obensuse
[21:15] <sml1226> and want some sort of transparency
[21:16] <sml1226> well i am not specifically looking for opensuse just a good light distro and was wondering if u guys had any suggestions
[21:16] <charlie-tca> xubuntu
[21:17] <sml1226> running xubuntu now and even it is a little slow
[21:17] <sml1226> also tried elive but hated it
[21:17] <charlie-tca> just a suggestion
[21:17] <sml1226> it was fast though
[21:17] <titan_ark> sml1226, i was suggested puppylinux, try that
[21:18] <sml1226> what does puppy use (gnome/kde/etc)
[21:18] <sml1226> haven't tried it before
[21:21] <titan_ark> ah i dont have an idea frankly. i am running a P4 with 256 MB RAM
[21:21] <titan_ark> couldnt run ubuntu so i was suggested puppylinux
[21:21] <titan_ark> but finally i managed xubuntu
[21:23] <titan_ark> any idea how can i speed up my downloads :S usually get atleast 100kBps on windows. here my update is happening @ 35!!!
[21:23] <sml1226> yeah for that xubu is fine but the restrictions in the ps3 and my pc's 600Mhz celeron w/ 384MB ram is too slow to run it smoothly
[21:24]  * charlie-tca thinks windows cheats on numbers
[21:24] <titan_ark> sml1226 do check out puppy, am a linux n00b :P
[21:24] <Mood> titan_ark: firewall issues?
[21:25] <titan_ark> charlie-tca on utorrent i get 200 :S
[21:25] <sml1226> ok thanks titan_ark will try it out
[21:25] <knome> titan_ark, msn file transfers?
[21:25] <charlie-tca> okay. I still thing windows lies
[21:25] <titan_ark> Mood, just installing updates, real slow download
[21:25] <titan_ark> lol charlie-tca
[21:26] <Mood> titan_ark: maybe it's the remote server. how large are your xubuntu d/l's?
[21:26]  * charlie-tca of course keeps his windows where it belongs, in the wall
[21:26] <titan_ark> Mood, its ~170MB
[21:27] <titan_ark> am unchecking the "suggested updates" now
[21:27] <Mood> titan_ark: wow that's a lot... all kernel related?
[21:28] <titan_ark> Mood: :P i cant tell the difference, a n00b, and i just started linux this morning
[21:28] <Mood> titan_ark: ah ok. we all have to start somewhere :-)
[21:29] <titan_ark> Mood: all security updates come up to 121MB
[21:30] <Mood> titan_ark: installed from 8.10?
[21:30] <titan_ark> yes
[21:31] <titan_ark> perl base, thunderbird installations are security updates!
[21:32] <titan_ark> any settings i need to modify? to improve speeds?
[21:33] <Mood> titan_ark: did you forward your port on that linux box?
[21:33] <titan_ark> no i dint
[21:33] <titan_ark> how do i do that here!
[21:34] <steelcityjim> i just loaded ubuntu desktop
[21:34] <Mood> hmm... i think i spoke too soon... not sure which ports are used for the xubuntu downloads...
[21:34] <steelcityjim> and it indicates 247 updates available
[21:34] <steelcityjim> do i need to install all these/
[21:34] <titan_ark> Mood oh :(
[21:35] <steelcityjim> im new to ubuntu
[21:35] <titan_ark> steelcityjim :D same here! 160 updates for xubuntu
[21:35] <steelcityjim> so do you do it?
[21:35] <charlie-tca> steelcityjim: better question for #ubuntu; we deal mostly with Xubuntu
[21:35] <steelcityjim> whats xubuntu?
[21:36] <charlie-tca> ubuntu with xfce for a desktop
[21:36] <steelcityjim> hmm ok
[21:36] <titan_ark> i guess you can skip the "suggested" updates and do the security updates only if you want to
[21:36] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu works on older and slower equipment than Ubuntu
[21:37] <Mood> titan_ark: ok, now you made me very curious about the ports for sudo apt-get install...
[21:38] <titan_ark> Mood: okay :) i am a total n00b. never played around. and just started on linux now
[21:40] <titan_ark> Mood: few hours back i did install vlc
[21:41] <titan_ark> was getting ~190+kBps then
[21:41] <Mood> titan_ark: ok, from what i'm finding out, i think apt-get uses port 80 (http)
[21:41] <titan_ark> okay
[21:41] <Mood> titan_ark: so it should be open if you can surf the web
[21:42] <titan_ark> hmm okay
[21:42] <Mood> titan_ark: so, if it's not a port forwarding issue, i'm guessing it's just the remote server load
[21:43] <titan_ark> okay
[21:43] <titan_ark> or probably my connection has gone down now!
[21:44] <titan_ark> but at this time i usually get the best speeds
[21:46] <Mood> titan_ark: what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[21:47] <Mood> use paste.ubuntu.com
[21:48] <titan_ark> Mood: sorry but ul have to tell me how to get there :P am a bit confused with all this
[21:49] <Mood> titan_ark: are you in mumbai?
[21:49] <Mood> titan_ark: india/
[21:49] <Mood> india?
[21:49] <titan_ark> yes india
[21:49] <titan_ark> how did you get that?
[21:49] <Mood> ok, so one possibility is that the default servers you are downloading from are very far away. so editing the sources.list will point to a mirrored server closer to you
[21:50] <titan_ark> oh okay
[21:50] <titan_ark> how do i get to that?
[21:50] <titan_ark> from the terminal?
[21:50] <Mood> bring up terminal
[21:50] <Mood> type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:50] <titan_ark> okay
[21:53] <titan_ark> Mood: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117851/
[21:53] <Mood> titan_ark: ah, you are already pointing to the indian repositories it seems...
[21:53] <Mood> titan_ark: do you see it?
[21:54] <titan_ark> trying to make sense out of it
[21:54] <titan_ark> yes
[21:54] <Mood> titan_ark: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com (instead of what i have, which is us.archive.ubuntu.com)
[21:54] <Mood> soo...
[21:54] <titan_ark> yes i got that
[21:55] <Mood> titan_ark: it would appear it's just slow network connectivity from the india server...
[21:55] <Mood> titan_ark: so.... i ran out of ideas... :-P
[21:55] <titan_ark> damn 25kB/s :O
[21:55] <titan_ark> lol okay :)
[21:55] <Mood> titan_ark: that is so slow
[21:56] <titan_ark> yeah!
[21:56] <Mood> titan_ark: are you on wireless?
[21:56] <titan_ark> looks like il be sleepless for another night!
[21:56] <titan_ark> no its an ADSL direct link
[21:56] <Mood> titan_ark: do you have any other downloads running? either on pc or linux?
[21:57] <titan_ark> no nothing at all
[21:58] <titan_ark> 17.6kB/s :S
[21:58] <titan_ark> this is bad :|
[21:59] <charlie-tca> :((
[21:59] <charlie-tca> seems painful
[21:59] <Mood> titan_ark: you can try a test download via ftp isntead
[21:59] <Mood> instead*
[21:59] <titan_ark> :(
[21:59] <titan_ark> Mood: how do i do that?
[22:00] <titan_ark> okay on 35 now!
[22:00] <Mood> ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/ubuntu/
[22:00] <Mood> i think its anon ftp
[22:01] <Mood> try downloading a file like 10 megs
[22:02] <Mood> titan_ark: try this file
[22:02] <Mood> ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Contents-i386.gz <-- it's ~15 Megs
[22:03] <titan_ark> 200+ kB/s
[22:04] <Mood> well that's faster
[22:04] <titan_ark> thro mozilla i hit the download
[22:04] <Mood> ahh
[22:04] <Mood> ok, so it appears it's something on the server side. ah well
[22:04] <titan_ark> okay
[22:05] <Mood> we tried our best
[22:05] <titan_ark> yes :) thanks :)
[22:05] <Mood> soo... i'd recommend taking a nap :-P
[22:05] <titan_ark> i will have to stay up another consecutive night :P
[22:05] <titan_ark> i really need that
[22:06] <Mood> just let it run in the background. you can still do work on your linux box
[22:06] <titan_ark> yup
[22:06] <titan_ark> getting this installed was an 8 hr effort :D
[22:06] <charlie-tca> Why not sleep while it runs?
[22:07] <Mood> titan_ark: hmm.... just to get the basic install? that's long. wait until you start playing around w/ ssh, ftp, ddclient, samba, mysql, apache, etc etc etc :-P
[22:07] <titan_ark> charlie-tca i guess il do that, my eyes are drooping now :D
[22:07] <Mood> titan_ark: document everything btw
[22:08] <Mood> titan_ark: it helps tremendously
[22:08]  * charlie-tca took 48 hours for my first Ubuntu d/l, about 3 years ago
[22:08] <titan_ark> Mood: well had to DL 3 isos, started with ubuntu live then alternate then xubuntu then repartitioning etc
[22:08]  * Mood downloaded redhat in 1999 on a 56k modem :-P
[22:09] <charlie-tca> I only had 24k
[22:09] <Mood> charlie-tca: lol
[22:09] <titan_ark> damn i dint set this for a log :O
[22:09] <charlie-tca> took forever
[22:09] <titan_ark> whoa! thats perseverence :D
[22:09] <Mood> titan_ark: you don't need to log it. just have mousepad up and copy+paste everything w/ notes
[22:09]  * charlie-tca never went past windows 3.1
[22:10] <titan_ark> Mood, oh yes :P
[22:10] <charlie-tca> I never liked to pay for what I could get free
[22:11] <titan_ark> hehe :)
[22:12] <titan_ark> I have a rotten ADSL plan now. nights are free. thats why have to start these things at this hour than during the day :P
[22:16] <charlie-tca> I remember those nights well
[22:29] <titan_ark> ah its yet to get completed :|
[22:29] <titan_ark> hey i just downloaded a flash plug in
[22:29] <titan_ark> how do i install it?
[22:30] <titan_ark> when i run it like wi do in windows its asking me for an application to run it
[22:32] <TheSheep> titan_ark: install flashplugin-nonfree from synaptic
[22:32] <TheSheep> titan_ark: you need to have the restricted repositories enabled
[22:32] <TheSheep> !flash | titan_ark
[22:32] <titan_ark> oh!
[22:32] <titan_ark> okay
[23:22] <la_rayis> hi everyone
[23:22] <la_rayis> i just bought a netbook
[23:22] <la_rayis> and was thinking of installing xubuntu and get rid of windowsxp
[23:23] <la_rayis> i read that it's possible to install ubuntu from a usb stick
[23:23] <la_rayis> do you know if i can apply the same procedures to install xubuntu?
[23:26] <DasEi> la_rayis: yes, similar
[23:26] <DasEi>  ubottu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:31] <la_rayis> DasEi: i'll try them out. Thanks a lo t!
[23:32] <DasEi> la_rayis:size of your hd ?
[23:32] <DasEi> ..gone
[23:36] <tmuki> happy epoch!
[23:39] <illumin8> Hello, does anyone know where to find the network icon that mounts local shares in xubuntu?
[23:40] <zoredache> local?  Do you mean hard drives in your computer or on your lan?
[23:41] <illumin8> im sorry, rather new to this, its my lan theres a windows machine with a share folder
[23:41] <zoredache> xubuntu doesn't really have a easy way to mount windows shares yet...
[23:41] <illumin8> oh :(
[23:41] <illumin8> thanks for answering :)
[23:41] <zoredache> !fusesmb
[23:41] <illumin8> thanks