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kronicKoHhey everyone00:06
darkmoonhi00:06
kronicKoHneed help with the command for upgrading to 4.200:06
darkmoonmy monitor get black sometimes ... im using kde 4 theres some problem  ?00:07
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projektdotnetkronicKoH: I just made that upgrade recently, what part did you need help with?00:07
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projektdotnetRussellAlan-bbs: do you still need help with the command to upgrade to kde 4.2?00:13
lee__I'm having problems with youtube playback, anyone care to help?00:21
bernhardhi, im atm updating  to the 4.2 packages00:24
bernhardit says ive got broken deps: liblasma300:24
U236Willy!knownissues00:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about knownissues00:24
bernhardshould i really use -f?00:24
U236Willy!known issues00:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about known issues00:25
BluesKaj!issues00:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about issues00:25
U236Willyhmm00:25
bernhardapt-get -f install00:25
U236Willyi guess i'll just give it a whirl...00:26
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Munsterhi00:28
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draik_I'm currently using a 500GB HDD for XP and Kubuntu partitions. I got a 1TB HDD to put Kubuntu on it and give 500GB to XP. I am being told by Norton Ghost that it cannot be done because the 1TB passes the 1024 cylindrical point.00:32
draik_Presently, I am copying the partition onto the hard drive as I intended.00:33
draik_But I also told Ghost to "Resize drive to fill unallocated space"00:33
draik_I also set the drive active and am copying the MBR00:33
vbgunzwhat is the fastest, most reliable, stable filesystem you can put on a brand new kubuntu install?00:34
draik_vbgunz: Ext300:34
vbgunzdraik_: really?00:34
draik_I don't think you can do Ext200:34
vbgunzExt4: is supposed to be better and is stable. Reiser4 kicks both in the ass I believe and XFS comes out on top from what I've gathered. the thing is, I am mostly reading old articles in search of the fastest and most reliable file system :/00:35
vbgunze.g., not sure which, reiser or xfs, one of those can hose the system if shut down by surprise. I would rather sacrifice the speed for the next best thing, reliability00:36
yaroslavHi!00:39
yaroslavDid anybody have the problem with keyboard in 8.10?00:39
yaroslavFor some reason the whole keyboard didn't respond. Only Ctr+Alt+F keys and Ctrl+Alt+Del worked.00:40
yaroslavAt the same time the mouse was working and the desktop was fully functional (I could use mouse to interact with desktop).00:40
dutleryaroslav: using dual displays?00:48
dutlerwitht he ait or nvidia driver?00:49
yaroslavnot using dual display00:49
yaroslavati driver00:49
dutlerok... my problesm were realate to an x.org bug. the work around was to switch to twinview00:50
dutlerbut is sounds like some thing is funny wiht your x ... do you have a standard config? what are the logs tilling you?00:50
yaroslavi see, but I don't need twinview :(00:51
alx_hello00:51
Dr_Willisati dosent use twniview.. thats a nvidia 'feature'00:51
dutlerright, your question was "Did anybody have the problem with keyboard in 8.10?" well i have... but for differnt reasoins00:51
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dutleryou have a standard config with the ati drivers....  i think its all guess work (for me)  till you get out the logs....  im helping my neibor move and the truck just came back. be back in 15 min00:53
draik_Info 60BB0031: Partitions ending past cylinder 1024 may not be bootable.01:05
draik_That is the error/info I got from Norton Ghost01:06
draik_How can I check if my partition is going past that point?01:06
dutleryaroslav: did you get squared away?01:08
Dr_WillisThats not much if an 'error' draik_01:09
yaroslavI'm here01:09
Dr_Willis1024 boot cylinder limit - was common on OLD hardware a few years back.. but not muich iof a issue these days01:09
dutleryaroslav: did you find out about the x related logs>01:09
Dr_Willisthats one of the reasons having a /boot partition at the start of the Hard drive was common practice01:09
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draik_I'm SOL then, huh?01:11
draik_I don't suppose I can re-write the contents of the original partition so that I can have /boot in the beginning and maintain the rest right where it is.01:12
Dr_Willisdraik_,  i dont see why its a problem at all.01:12
draik_Really?01:12
draik_How do I do that?01:12
Dr_WillisIve not had any system with the 1024 limit in years01:12
david_I cannot get my wireless card working, I am using an Atheros integrated card, model number AR2413, can anybody help me ge4t this working?01:13
draik_I'm being told that it won't boot if past 102401:13
Dr_WillisYou never actually mentioned a prooblem.. just some 'warning' from ghost.01:13
Dr_Willis'Partitions ending past cylinder 1024 may not be bootable.'01:13
draik_Right01:13
draik_Does that mean it won't actually boot?01:13
Dr_Willisthat MIGHT of been true 5+ years ago on some hardware01:13
Dr_Willis'MAY NOT' -  how old is the system?01:13
draik_I built it back in 200401:14
draik_End of '0401:14
Dr_WillisTry it and see.01:15
compilerwriterAnyone here manage to get a Blackberry Curve and Ibex to play together?01:15
Dr_Willisor make a /boot parittion, thats smaller in size.  then a main / partitiion01:15
draik_I'm back to the original drive and partition.01:16
draik_I'm not seeing my 1TB in /media01:16
draik_How can I make a /boot partition and then the rest of the / partition from what I already have since it is all on one partition?01:17
Dr_Willisis it mounted. try the 'mount' command.01:17
Dr_WillisIs there any data on the drive now?01:17
draik_Yes, I just cloned the drive from the 500GB to the 1TB01:18
Dr_Willisa 1TB hard drive in a machine thats 4 yr old.. Hmm...  that might be an issue also.. buit it depends on the  controllers i guess.01:18
Dr_Willisyou could use gparted to resize.. or just try booting the thing and see if it works.01:18
draik_I see the drive with qtparted01:21
Dr_Willisso far you have not proben that it 'is' a problem. You are just worrying about a warning from NortonsGhost.01:21
draik_It is under /dev/sda01:22
Dr_WillisI wonder if norton ghost also copied over the GRUB boot loader.01:22
draik_It should01:23
Dr_WillisI also wonder if the UUID's of the drives are the same now that they got cloned... and resized..01:23
draik_I wouldn't think they'd be the same, would they?01:24
draik_I always figured UUIDs were unique, like a MAC address.01:24
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Dr_WillisNo they are not.01:24
Dr_Willisyou can change the uuid's  :) you can change macs also.. but thats harder..01:25
draik_You can also clone and spoof MAC, but that's another topic.01:25
draik_I can't seem to mount /dev/sda01:26
Dr_Willisthats because you mount /dev/sda1  not /dev/sda01:26
draik_Ah01:26
Dr_Willis'sudo fdisk -l'  and see whats there01:26
draik_I'm in01:27
draik_Do that where, /mnt or on /?01:27
Dr_Willisdo what? fdisk -l is a command that dosent matter. :)01:28
draik_Ah01:28
draik_Ok01:28
Dr_WillisLinux Basics 101 :)01:28
draik_I'm going to use Konversation on my desktop... just a sec01:28
Dr_Willisbe sure to use 'sudo' also01:28
draikI used sudo01:29
draikDr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117899/01:29
Dr_Willisand that shows... me that you have a lot of hard drives.01:30
Dr_Willis:)01:30
draik:)01:30
draik4 of them01:30
draikWell, 4 int, 1 ext01:30
Dr_WillisI got one box that had 8 at one time.01:30
draikI recall. That will be my eventual project01:30
Dr_WillisYou could replace 3 of  the hd's with a single new 1 tb drive.. :) and then some.. :)01:31
draikThis desktop will eventually be the main desktop while I run other systems via KVM as personal servers01:32
Dr_Willisi got a 1.5 tb hd the other day for stuff. :)01:32
draikI'm almost at 100% with all drives.01:32
Dr_Willis be sure to have backups. :)01:33
Dr_Willisi had a 500gb go click-clack-dead. the other day01:33
draikSpring cleaning will commense next week if I can get the 1TB to be my Linux boot01:33
Dr_Willisi was backing iot up.. then discoverred.. i was backing up the WRONG drive...01:33
draikOuch01:33
Dr_Willisso i lost a 500gb.. but went and bouight a external 1.5tb.01:33
Dr_Willis that let me  unplug 3 other hd's01:34
Dr_Willisafter taking a week to copy them to the new 1.5tb01:34
draikI'll eventualy go that route with an eSATAA01:35
draik*eSATA01:35
Dr_WillisMaking sure my new external HD's ahve eSATA also..01:35
Dr_Willisbut this one dident. :( i was going to get the one that did.. but it was not on sale.. and for $50 - i can  wait. :P01:35
draikFrom what you see, everything should be good for me to disconnect all of the drives (except 1TB) and boot from it?01:36
Dr_WillisTry it and see.  thats about all ya can do.01:36
draikOk01:36
draik_Here goes nothing...01:37
Dr_WillisI tend to use my bios menis to puck what HD to boot . :) but  older machines are often not as flexiable01:37
arshadHi01:38
arshadhow d i use wiwne in KDE over GNOME01:38
arshad?01:38
arshadwine01:39
arshad?01:39
arshadanyone can help01:39
arshadPlzz01:39
Dr_Williswine /path/to/whatever/wiundowsprogram.exe01:39
Dr_Willis!enter | arshad01:39
ubottuarshad: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:39
draik_Here we go, Dr_Willis01:39
arshadok01:39
Dr_Willisnow what 'in kde over gnome'  part of that question..is vague.01:39
draik_GRUB error 2201:40
Dr_Willischeck the grub homepage/docs - i dont have the error codes memoruized01:40
Dr_Willishttp://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html01:41
draik_Dr_Willis: I'm surprised that you don't01:41
draik_22 - Deleted Partitions01:41
Dr_WillisI know enough grub that i rarely have to mess with it01:41
arshadthe default desktop in Ubuntu8.04 is GNome, Have installed dual Kde as option01:41
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Dr_Willisarshad_,   If you installed kubuntu-desktop on a ubuntu system,. ya should have a kde entry in the gdm/kdm sessions  login screen01:43
arshad_ya01:44
wallacehi01:44
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Guest95952salve01:47
wallacecomo faz pra ir pra portugues01:48
Guest95952qualcuno può aiutarmi?01:48
Guest95952qualcuno può aiutarmi?01:48
draik_Dr_Willis: How can I write to the file on /mnt? I'm using the LiveCD and have it mounted there.01:51
Dr_Williswrite to what file?01:51
draik_To /boot/grub/menu.lst   ............... never mind. Got it with sudo01:52
Dr_Willislogical eh? :)01:53
draik_Takes a while, but yes.01:53
Dr_Willisit sounds like - from that error message. the uuid= entry may be wrong01:54
Dr_Willis!uuid01:54
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)01:54
draik_Dr_Willis: Seriously, thanks for putting up with my noobiness01:54
Dr_WillisI was thinking that UUID's DID change if you resized the filesystems01:54
draik_I just want to make sure it boots first01:55
UnixOne_did I miss something? ATI SUPPORTS 3D on JAUNTY??01:56
UnixOne_... shocked.. and can't believe01:56
Dr_WillisUnixOne_,  i heard there was some issues....01:57
UnixOne_I've got jaunty and kwin's compositing effects work, altough I haven't installed ANY drivers01:57
UnixOne_Dr_Willis: ^^01:57
UnixOne_Dr_Willis I've got no issues, except that it's slow and I've got one of the most problematic gfx cards, ATI RV35001:58
UnixOne_Dr_Willis: it feels as if the full capacity of the gfx card isn't used..01:59
Dr_Willisbut ati is supposed to be 'supported' now! or so i hear ati-lovers say. :)01:59
Dr_WillisI will stick with nvidia for the foreseable future01:59
UnixOne_Dr_Willis: indeed, me too but where did you hear that?01:59
Dr_Willisin here. :)02:02
UnixOne_hmm02:02
Dr_Willisevery time ya get people goimng abouit ati vs nvidia someone says somthing like ' well now ati is supporting linux!' :)02:02
Dr_Willis then there always the 'on some cards......' footnote02:02
UnixOne_Dr_Willis: I'll wait till april when jaunty is final and ati releases a driver that works.02:03
Dr_Williswhich mauy not happen till July. :)02:03
UnixOne_Dr_Willis: hahah :D yea maybe^02:03
spych3ri have KDE 4.1, how do i downgrade to 3.5?...02:04
UnixOne_Dr_Willis: ati sux really hard, not due to the hardware.. it's due to those idiots not sharing their drivers02:04
spych3rusing aptitude.02:04
UnixOne_spych3r: why not upgrade to 4.2 ? 4.1 was shit02:04
spych3rhow do i do that? ;p02:05
spych3r4.2 i mean02:05
Dr_Willistheres no way to 'downgrade' to 3.5 that i know of02:05
dutlersoych3r: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.202:06
Dr_Willisthere was supposed to bne work on new  3.5 repos.. - but ive not heard much about that lately02:06
UnixOne_spych3r: if you're serious going to 3.5 I would install purge kde 4.1 kompletely (remove kubuntu if you have ubuntu) and then use the sources of 3.5 in the sources.lst02:07
UnixOne_spych3r: but try this before http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 this explains howto switch to 4.202:07
UnixOne_spych3r: don't forget to take backups as usual, before any change on the system02:07
spych3rthanks :)02:08
UnixOne_yo, np02:08
draik_How do I fix GRUB on a drive that is currently on /mnt?02:11
draik_Dr_Willis: Yes, the UUIDs are the same02:12
draik_I forgot I had SGD02:18
draik_I hope GRUB was fixed02:18
draik_WOOHOO02:18
draik_I think I'm in business now. Dr_Willis, thank you so much for your help and guidance. It is very much appreciated.02:19
david_Anyone try to update kde4.1 to 4.2 and get an error?02:19
dutleri didnt get an error, but an incomplete upgrade02:20
david_me too02:20
david_crashed with error02:20
dutlerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105632302:21
david_geuss I will stick with4.1 love kubuntu!02:21
Dr_Willisi had to remove some package for kde 4.1 then upgrade.02:22
dutler4.2 is awsome... i lvoe it... it just took a few extra steps for me to get it to wok02:22
Dr_Willistjhere was a conflict some how with some file02:22
dustinam I the only person on earth that thinks the present windows feature is more of a pain then a help? and can I dissable it02:23
Dr_Willisi dont even klnwo what that feature is.. :)02:24
Dr_Willisgues si never used it02:24
dustinwhen u get you mouse to the top left corner it bullies you out of whatever you are doing and presents all of your windows02:24
dustinand I cant seem to get rid of it02:25
dutlerlike kompose?02:25
Dr_Willisi saw that one... - and yes. its disableable02:25
Dr_WillisI just dont rember where. :)02:25
dutlerkwin effect?02:25
dustinit is most anoying when I am gaiming in full screen02:25
dustinsomething like that02:26
Dr_Willisnot in kde at the moment so i cant look :)02:26
dustinits a kwin effect I think02:28
dustinis there a config for kwin?02:28
dutlersystem settings -> desktop02:29
dutlerchekc out all effects and screen edges???02:29
dutleryep. scree edges02:30
dutlerany one help with custom kernel compile? need help with make menuconfig options02:31
dustinthan you so much dutler spot on02:31
dutleru bet.02:31
dustinnow to do that to my other 3 computers02:32
draik_File system check failed. I'm on the command line with 'root'. What should I do to fix the issue?02:36
skogshow do i get kde 4.2 packages installed with kubuntu02:45
astrommehttp://kubuntu.org02:46
skogsany specific download?02:46
eddyis it possible to copy the / partition to other using dd and then make the partition changes in menu.list?02:50
badpcanyone know how to install a wintv Haupauge HDTV CARD?02:55
PSiL0who here thinks that the fglrx 8.55 is better than 8.57 (9.1 catalyst)?02:59
esdanielhi, wondering if anyone's about who might have tweaked their xorg.conf for kde4.2 & nvidia 8800gt and wouldn't mind sharing it in the paste bin for me to study03:24
esdanielit's a long shot but thought i'd give it a go ;-)03:24
badpcWHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ASKING?03:26
badpcsry caps03:26
esdanielnp, i'd like to check out a xorg.conf from someone here who has already tweaked it for kde4.2 and using a similar graphic card to the nvidia 8800gt03:27
badpcesdaniel: you using the 177 driver?03:27
esdanielone from current repo, yep - you saying i really should go get the nvidia one then?03:27
BluesKajesdaniel, the 8.10 xorg.conf file won't be much help , since it depends so much more on HAL than any other version so far. If you take a look at xorg.conf you'll see it's bare bones and practically devoid of editable settings.03:28
badpcesdaniel: no im using the repo driver yoo03:28
esdanieli learnt the last time i messed around with the one direct from nividia - not keen to screw up again03:28
BluesKajesdaniel ,is the 177 driver doing what you want ?03:29
badpces BluesKajwell said03:29
esdanielwow, sorry kubs, got you confused - am using the nvidia-restricted from repo, not latest driver from nvidia, have used my old xorg.conf from 3.5.10 install and wondered what needed to be removed/added... hence wanted to check out one that had been tweaked already03:30
badpces i have the same card with 1gig of ddr2 ram and using the 177 kernal and driver plays anything you can throw at it03:30
astrommeI'm using the 6600 card with 180.29 driver... pretty much no changes to the standard xorg.conf03:30
esdanielok, badpc, can you pop your xorg.conf in pastebin for me toc heck out then, please03:31
badpcesdaniel: how would i do that?03:31
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esdanielthanks astromme03:32
BluesKajesdaniel, maybe you could post yours too , it it's working i'd like to see your settings , since i use the same driver :)03:33
badpcesdaniel:  really havent changed much in the xorg works great out of the box no need to change03:33
badpces what are you trying to do with your card?03:33
esdanielwas googling and saw this one to add to options: Option"AccelMethod""XAA"03:33
BluesKaj!pastebin03:34
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:34
esdanielthanks blues03:35
esdanielwas hunting for that just now03:35
badpcesdaniel: you try the nv-clock?03:35
esdanielnot yet03:35
twodogsI have Jaunty and when I set the konsole to transparent it tells me my deskktop doesn't support it... what am I missing?  I'm using the right video drivers (radeonhd)03:36
macotwodogs: is compositing enabled?03:36
* twodogs checks.03:36
badpccould someone help me with my hauppauge wintv 1600 card install?03:37
esdanielhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/117911/03:37
esdanielso far been pretty good experience with kde4.2, wallet lack of memory doing my head in though03:38
esdaniellack of memory = when i restart kmail's asking for my passwords again03:38
esdanielother thing that bugs is the keyboard repeat rate shenanigan but not a total drag03:39
badpcesdaniel: is your card not working properly?03:39
esdanielits pretty sweet, just want to get the best out of it so popped in here to see what everyone else was doing with the config03:40
esdanielso badpc, i've messed a bit with the hauppage ting, wazzup03:41
spych3rwhere does "amule" p2p store the completed files at?03:41
esdaniel~/.aMule i think03:41
esdaniel~/.aMule/incoming or somethign like that03:42
spych3rthanks :)03:42
esdanielnp03:42
badpcesdaniel: just got the wintv-hdtv-1600 and have no clue how to install it?03:42
esdanielblues, post yours then ;-)03:42
esdanielit's a pain in the butt03:42
BluesKajesdaniel, your xorg.conf is a carry over from kubuntu 8.04 and kde 3.5  ..seems to have a lot more detail about your hardware than mine does , including the samsung syncmaster monitor which I also have and is just listed as "unknown"03:42
esdanieli put the sam thing in myself, kinda anal really - makes no diff03:43
BluesKajok, esdaniel , don't think it'll help you tho03:43
esdanielbadpc - gimme a sec to find a link03:43
BluesKajmine > http://www.pastebin.ca/133671203:44
badpcesdaniel: think xorg doesnt do much of anything but want to try NV-CLOCK03:46
david__I can't get my wireless card to work, Atheros ar2413, can anybody help me03:47
esdanielblues, get the tripple buffer thing going ;-)03:47
badpcLinux-power to the people!03:50
BluesKajesdaniel , your nvidia is more capable than my 7600GT ...dunno if a triple buffer  (whatever that is ) would work on mine03:50
BluesKaj:)03:51
esdanielbadpc - take a peek at this link, it's got the bones of what i found in guies when i did this ages ago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75884503:51
carutsuis anybody able to play youtube videos on konqueror? if so, how on earth you did it?!03:51
esdanielcarutsu: have you got flash installed  as part of restricted-drivers03:51
badpcesdaniel: thnx03:52
carutsuyes IIRC03:52
carutsuesdaniel: ^^03:52
BluesKajactaully I'm quite happy with my card . It does everything i need , since I'm not a gamer . I do some videeo conversion and editing , but that's not too demanding03:52
carutsuesdaniel: is that right or should I install Adobe's?03:52
esdanielyeah, i'm giving it a spin here now, usuually use FF for YT, so far  not looking good in konq03:53
BluesKajyoutube is hit and miss with konqueror ...that's why i finally gave in to FF :)03:53
carutsuexactly my problem youtube is too popular to miss it03:53
esdanielnope, no joy on mine with konq, best to default to FF for now mate03:54
carutsuthat's why i have to have FF installed :/03:54
badpcnothing wrong with ff03:54
carutsudamn03:54
carutsubadpc: i just preffer konqueror03:54
badpchad the same problem with konq03:54
esdanielnice to do lost in one window - i see benefit03:54
esdaniellost = lots03:54
carutsubadpc: so jumped to FF03:55
BluesKajyeah, FF does the job nicely ...konq is being left behind in a lot of ways. I've even switched to Dolphin for file mangement now03:55
esdanielbrb03:55
carutsuBluesKaj: the fact that I can have multiple apps in konqueror is what I'm sold to03:55
carutsuFF opens and opens and opens other windows and I just hate that03:56
badpcfirefox only opens one window and can easily be closed03:58
daniel928413hi03:58
badpcgood download management03:58
badpcyou can also change the location to were ff downoads your files03:59
BluesKajfirefox easier to configure than konq for surfing , it's fallen behing dolphin in terms of file management flexability04:00
BluesKajbehind04:00
BluesKajfor me it has anyway04:00
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macoBluesKaj: its not meant to be a file manager....04:01
BluesKajnot any more i guess04:02
BluesKajanyway , sacktime here ..nite all04:02
esdanielfor anyone who cares, this is pretty nippy now on my setup (AMD64x2-4200, DDR400-4GB, nVidia 8800GT) http://paste.ubuntu.com/117915/04:05
esdanielso badpc - how far you got with the hauppage?  from my experience if you've not get a decent signal you'll be going round in circles trying to get it to work04:07
esdanielbadpc - this is an old link i remember studying: http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/04:09
esdaniellol, he's gone, doh!04:09
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martin99a04:29
chuckfI have a monitor that does 1600x1050. Up until about three days ago it worked just fine with my kubuntu + KDE 4.2 install. Now it only goes up to 1024x768. When booted to Windows I still get the 1600x1050 res. Where might the issue lie? I've tried three different restricted nvidia drivers and the generic.04:37
adredhelo.. how to install KDE 4.2 on ubuntu 8.10 server edition? help pls..04:45
martin99Hi, anyone having problems installing compiz fusion, seems simple, am following a step by step installation it seems that the url to the public key is not longer valid, anyone have any ideas04:52
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martin99ten04:57
martin99ok great04:58
david_can anybody help me get my wireless card to work, im using an Atheros 5005G card05:11
david_anyone?05:14
david_most forums online are unable to  help me with this issue05:16
salamandrabuy another card xD05:18
david_i had it working 2 days ago, but then i updated my kernel and it won't work05:20
david_the reason for my updating the kernel was due to ACPI errors with 2.6.27 kernel, once I updated that issue was fixed with the lack of a working wireless card05:21
salamandrayou installed some wrong then05:21
salamandrasomething*05:21
salamandraerr...idont know about that05:21
hettarAnyone testing jaunty alpha 4, having problems with some apps and OpenGL after yesterdays updates ?05:21
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Spinshanki still cant get flash working on 64bit05:37
matt2154How do I run firefox with gtk widgets instead of Qt widgets?05:49
ubuntu_allo05:59
ubuntu_il a quelqun svp05:59
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ubuntu_quelqun peut maider svp06:00
matt2154hey bud, what's the problem.  Qu'est-ce que le problem?06:02
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ubuntu_jessaye dinstaller kubuntu matt06:02
thechrisi've bricked apt06:02
thechrisI can't remove packages or install packages due to dependencies06:03
matt2154thechris: might have better luck joining the #ubuntu channel and asking for help about apt06:03
thechrisand i can't fix the dependencies because i can't install or remove apps06:03
matt2154thechris: more active helpers there...06:03
thechrisAnyone install KDE4.2 on Kubuntu 8.10?06:03
thechrisas it seems to not work, or have poor instructions06:04
matt2154ubuntu: ok.  qu'est-ce cest le problem?06:04
thechrisso far, it seem the only way to get it to work is to install from Ubuntu 8.10, then remove all of the gnome stuff06:04
ubuntu_une fois que jai fini de linstaller et que je redemarre06:04
ubuntu_il me dit qui a pas dos installer06:05
ubuntu_je viens de installer kubuntu par quatres fois en formatant en ext2 ou 3 et pareil06:05
matt2154ubuntu: je pense que tu as le dit de n'installer pas en MBR.  Pardon ma francais...06:06
matt2154ubuntu: as-tu une autre OS sure le hard drive?06:07
ubuntu_il me la pas demander ca matt06:07
ubuntu_non mon disque est vide06:07
ubuntu_et puis a la fin de linstallation au paquets de langues ca je fait ignorer car c trop long et la il me marque une genre derreur06:08
ubuntu_lerreur cest sorry the program ubiquity closed unexpectedly06:08
xp-killercan someone help me wit samba to conect to vista and shear files06:10
matt2154ubuntu: combien de hard drives as tu dedant ce ordinateur06:10
ubuntu_206:10
matt2154ubuntu: join #ubuntu-fr .  Il peut t'aider la.06:12
xp-killeron peu lol06:12
matt2154yeah, sorry, very out of practice with my written french....06:13
ubuntu_tu cest pas ou le pb 606:13
matt2154ubuntu: 'pb 6'?06:15
ubuntu_dsl mon clavier est mal configurer06:15
ubuntu_je suis en live cd.. ca lag et ca va mal06:16
matt2154ubuntu: heh06:16
xp-killerregle la config pour ton clavier06:16
matt2154ubuntu: type: '/join #ubuntu-fr'06:17
ubuntu_vous pouvez pas maider pour mon pb ?06:17
ubuntu_je suis sur le salon ubuntu matt mais personne repond..06:17
matt2154ubuntu: 'pb' == probleme?06:17
xp-killercest quoi ton pb?06:18
ubuntu_matt oui06:18
ubuntu_xp-killer: jarrive pas a installer kubuntu06:18
matt2154ubuntu: je pense que son installation n'a pas modifier le MBR.  Apres installation il dit 'pas DOS installer'06:19
xp-killerubuntu_: tu ésaiye de linstaler ou kubuntu?06:20
matt2154xp-killer: je pense que son installation n'a pas modifier le MBR.  Apres installation il dit 'pas DOS installer'06:20
ubuntu_sur mon disque principal xp-killer06:20
xp-killermatt2154: im a beginer so i dont know mutch06:20
xp-killerubuntu_: faut demandé ds la salle #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr06:22
ubuntu_ok je veras plus tard06:22
ubuntu_je dois partir la06:22
ubuntu_merci a +06:22
xp-killerk06:22
matt2154ubuntu: desole06:23
xp-killermatt2154: u know anything about samba?06:23
matt2154xp: not really, haven't used it in years.  what do you want to know?06:23
matt2154any idea how to make firefox use GTK (gnome) elements instead of QT (KDE) elements?06:25
xp-killermatt2154: i cant get to conet to my vista laptop,when i type the adress ip with the port it says conected  then conection close06:25
matt2154xp: can you connect to your vista laptop from another windows box?06:26
matt2154xp: I assume you are trying to map a drive?06:26
xp-killermatt2154: what?no im trying to shear multimedia files and also to watch them from my pc linux06:28
matt2154xp: so how are you connecting?  With a web browser, or dolphin, or what?06:29
matt2154xp-killer: tell me what steps you are taking, and I'll tell you where things are going wrong...06:30
xp-killermatt2154: im using samba i want to surf on my vista laptop to see my files..how do  run dos on vista?:s i havent seen excute on it06:31
jessiexp-killer: cmd06:31
jessiexp-killer: type that in on the little search bar deal on the start menu06:31
matt2154xp-killer: so you have files on your Linux box, and want to see them on Vista, or the other way around?06:32
arshadHi06:32
xp-killertanks06:32
xp-killermatt2154: both ways06:32
xp-killermostly im on linux and want to see my vista files06:33
arshadcame over a kill command which does not need to know the process ID or so ................................   just need to type in Term. kill n some alpha bfore or after n click d mouse over that screen n that screen is terminated06:33
arshadanyone knows that kill command06:33
thechisso, i've lost my kde window borders06:34
thechisanyone know of a working guide to isntalling kde4.2?06:34
arshadanyone knows that KILL command06:34
matt2154xp-killer: ok, so I assume you have set up a share on Vista correctly, now what are you doing to map the drive on Linux?06:34
thechisarshad: xkill06:35
xp-killermatt2154: what u mean by map?06:35
arshadthanks thanks thanks thanks06:35
Dr_Willisxkill is 'a' kill command. :)06:35
Dr_Willisnot the only one. :()06:35
matt2154xp-killer: windows speak -> "map a remote drive", linux speak -> "mount a remote share"06:36
thechishmm, akill06:36
thechisso, anyone here aware of kde4.2?06:36
Dr_Williskde4.2 exists.. yes.. :)06:36
thechisit seems to be uninstallable from kubuntu...06:37
arshadone more small query masters...............06:37
Dr_WillisIve installed it on 2 Kubuntu systems here.06:37
thechisDr_Willis: what magic process do you use?06:37
xp-killermatt2154: :s06:37
Dr_Willishad some conflicting packages last i tried.. i had to remove one.. then redo the installation/upgrade06:37
jessiearshad: ctrl+alt+esc?06:37
thechisDr_Willis: that's where I get.  and now i don't have window borders in kde06:38
xp-killermatt2154: i must mount a drive to shear?06:38
arshadwow wow06:38
wrinkliezthechris i had the same problem06:38
wrinkliez:(06:38
thechisso, its down to kde-window-manager failing06:38
matt2154xp-killer: Yes.06:38
Dr_WillisThe update/upgrade process proberly dident finish.. try a 'sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade ' again' look for errors06:38
thechisi think it has to do with the horrible instructions on kubuntu.org06:39
matt2154xp-killer: what were you doing to try to connect?06:39
thechis"uninstall any plasmoids"06:39
jessieDr_Willis: I had the same problem as thechis.I did just what you siad06:39
thechisi've got no clue what plasmoids were installed for me, and they're not named "plasmoid"06:39
Dr_WillisI think they m ean uninstall unofficial ones.. ive not tried the upgrade lately06:40
Dr_Willisthen again.. what do i know. :) im not even IN kde right now06:40
thechisDr_Willis: I'm not either....06:40
jessiethechis: run the "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"06:40
thechisjessie: no, that fails.  kde-window-manager still fails06:40
jessiehmm..... i'm trying to remember what i had to do to get it to work....06:41
wrinkliezhold on thechris, try the solution someone gave me06:41
thechisplasma-add-shortcut-to-menu is in two pacakages06:41
xp-killermatt2154: typing the adress ipwith the port06:42
matt2154xp-killer: in what program?  Firefox?  Konqueror?  Dolphin?  Konsole?06:43
wrinkliezthechris: try this, sudo apt-get clean, then sudo apt-get purge kde-window-manager, then sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace06:43
wrinkliezi installed (or tried to install :D) kde 4.2 a bunch of times, and each time kwin kept messing up06:44
wrinkliezyou might have to log out or restart x06:45
xp-killermatt2154: konq06:45
Dr_WillisI recall kwin confluicting with some package.. i removed that package with 'sudo apt-get remove WHateveritwascalled' then reran sudo apt-get upgrade, and it worked06:45
matt2154xp-killer: ok, so you need to open konsole, and try mounting the share instead...06:45
Dr_Willisbrb06:46
thechishmm, that might work06:47
xp-killermatt2154: it will be mutch easyer it u told me how to do that06:47
thechisthough i'm still a bit skeptical of *buntu due to the large number of bugs i find06:47
wrinkliezi wasnt a fan of 8.10 myself06:47
wrinkliezthings went backwards for me D:  hopefully they will fix things, if not ill be forced to become a fedora user06:48
matt2154xp-killer: ok, try:06:49
matt2154xp-killer: sudo mkdir /mnt/vista06:49
jessiewrinkliez: I agree. 8.10 was HORRIBLE06:49
jessie9.04 is wayyyyy better, even right now06:49
jessieI'm using it right now as my stable laptop OS06:49
wrinkliezwow06:49
xp-killermatt2154: cool i get tru lol it works i have a little planet down in the corner06:49
arshadhav KDE 3.5 over Ubu 8.04...........    a small prob occoured......................  copied a file(audio file) from USB to desktop in KDE than played it after copying but it was not fully copied is it a bug or shud i recopy n recheck it06:49
matt2154xp-killer: sudo mount -t smb //192.168.1.100/vista_share_name /mnt/vista -o "username=your_username,password=your_password"06:50
wrinkliezhopefully your using a different build of 9.04 than i used.  i tried one of the alphas and my mouse didnt move / sound didn't work06:50
xp-killermatt2154: no need i got tru06:50
thechisso, i've got 4.2 installed now.  thanks all06:50
jessiewrinkliez: I don't know. I started with alpha 3. I think It's up to alpha 5...06:50
jessiewrinkliez: the only problem i had was nvidia drivers.06:51
xp-killermatt2154: tanks from vista im seing my files on linux06:51
matt2154xp-killer: ok, what your doing isn't samba.  vista must come with some kind of web-based sharing now06:51
matt2154xp-killer: wonderful, talk to you later then06:51
xp-killerk06:51
wrinkliezjessie:  are you using it now?06:51
wrinkliezjessie:  gnome in 9.04, i mean06:51
thechisso, why doesn't adept use the system font?06:52
thechisits nice to have a 9pt font on a 1920x1080 screen06:52
jessiewrinkliez: oh. lol. nah, i use kde.06:52
wrinkliezjessie: ah06:53
jessiewrinkliez: Yeah. I CAN'T use Gnome any more. It's like..... yuck. lol06:53
wrinkliezthechris:  i dont know, but adept will no longer be used after 8.10.  9.04 brings kpackigekit, i believe06:54
jessieyes, this is correct06:54
wrinkliezjessie:  yeah.  unfortunately i had been a gnome user, and decided to try kde when 4.0 came out, which pretty much disallusioned me :(06:54
wrinkliezdisillusioned*06:54
Dr_WillisI always use synaptic... :()06:55
jessietry it again in a month or two, wrinkliez06:55
wrinkliezjessie: well i am using it now, and i love it.  4.2 is beautifully done;  thats for sur06:55
jessiewrinkliez: I couldn't agree more. It's stable, fast, customizable, and just... :D06:56
Dr_Williseither it works.. or it keeps crashing on ya. :)06:56
Dr_WillisI dident find it that fast.. but then again.. i only messed with it for a few hrs..  then went back to JWM+Rox-filer.06:56
wrinkliezwow a rox user?06:57
wrinkliez:D06:57
jessielol06:57
Dr_WillisPuppyLinux addict. :)06:57
jessiehaha06:57
Dr_Willisjwm+rox = works great on   my machines.. and over vnc..06:57
Dr_WillisI cant stand some of the other 'light' desktops that are out there.06:58
Dr_Willistesting out other disrtos at the moment.  Some of these 'others' have some neat tools.06:58
wrinkliezwhy doesnt xfce have a supported power manager by now06:58
wrinkliezor does it, and i just done know about it06:58
wrinkliezdont*06:58
Dr_Williscant say taht i noticed one way or the other.06:58
Dr_WillisIt could proberly use the gnome one.06:59
thechisDr_Willis: ratpoison06:59
thechisis like screen for x06:59
Dr_WillisI just use 'terminator' - its gnometerminal+screen  for X :)06:59
Dr_Willisbut its gnomeish :P07:00
Dr_Willis!find terminator07:00
ubottuFound: terminator, terminatorx07:00
Dr_Willis!info terminator07:00
ubottuterminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-2ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 105 kB, installed size 988 kB07:00
Dr_Willis!info terminatorx07:00
ubottuterminatorx (source: terminatorx): realtime audio synthesizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.82-7.1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 332 kB, installed size 1300 kB07:00
Dr_Willistalk about CLOSELY named apps. :)07:00
thechisnot like xfs vs xfs07:01
thechisthough i guess the packages are named clearly07:01
Dr_Willisdivx vs DivX :)07:01
arshadHelp Plzzz          how d i make a backup disk of Ubuntu 8.04......................07:02
Dr_Willisdeoends on what you mean arshad07:02
Dr_Willis!backup07:02
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:02
arshadlike a recovery disk of vista07:02
Dr_WillisI like Momdo/Mindi myself.07:03
Dr_Willisbut i rarely backup the whole system.07:03
thechisthere's a recovery disk for vista07:03
thechisso, does that make it not a failure?07:03
arshadactually iam running ubuntu on XP07:03
arshadso will the recovery disk b created07:04
Dr_Willisthechis,   last few machines ive bouight.. required me to spend a few hrs burning 'rescue' dvd media.. or pay $20 to order the disks...07:04
Dr_Willis'ubuntu on xp' -> clarify that also07:04
arshaddual boot07:04
fuzzyguys help, i cannot install THC-Hydra... it gives some errors07:04
arshadinstalled in a partition on XP07:05
xp-killersomeone call me?07:05
arshadthe g:  drive07:05
fuzzysomeone will help?..07:05
arshadits installed on Windows07:05
Dr_Willisarshad,  you did a WUBI install you mean? or a normal booted-the-cd and installed Install?07:06
arshadthru CD n i can c the Ubuntu folder in XP n last time i had a restart problem in Ubu , had formatted the whole drive in Win XP n rtemoved Ubu .     I dono what WUBI stands 4.  so prob its theu cd n ubu installed on already running XP07:08
wrinkliezhmm, is there a 4.2 compatible "open terminal here" for dolphin?07:08
Dr_WillisIf you booted the cd.. and installed.. and have grub with a windows and linux entry.. then you did a 'normal' install..07:08
thechisDr_Willis: i think the CD will autorun in xp, not sure if that starts the wubi install07:09
Dr_Willisif you were in windows.. and inserted the cd.. it asks you to do a 'wubi' install.  installs linux as a program in windows.07:09
* Dr_Willis hates wubi. :)07:09
arshadexactly07:09
Dr_Willisid rather use virtualbox.07:09
arshadis virtualbox option ava in CD07:10
arshadso even i can opt 4 that07:10
Dr_WillisVirtualbox is not on cd.07:10
arshadok07:10
Dr_Williseither do a normal install. or use virutalbox.. is what i do07:10
arshadok Virtualbox07:10
arshadhow d i use that option07:11
arshadif ava07:11
Dr_Willisthere is no 'option' for virtualbox. :)07:11
Dr_Willisinstall virtualbox for whatever os you are using.. run it..  install the OS inside it..07:12
xp-killermatt2154: im transfer files from linux to vista then i get and error on vista memory parity error07:13
xp-killerDr_Willis:07:13
xp-killerwhats is that?07:13
Dr_Willisthat sounds nasty.07:13
arshadcome over Virtualbox 2.1.2, can i download it n use it 4 the next installation07:13
Dr_WillisIf i rember right xp-killer  ram chips ahve a 'parity' but that sort of checks the rest of the ram.. if parity errors are happening.. ram is going bad.07:13
Dr_WillisI woudl google that a bit more.07:14
Dr_Willisarshad,  clarify that last statement a bit more please?   and cut down on the leet-lingo/shortcuts.07:14
thechiswell, ECC ram is pretty rare07:14
thechisi'd probably check to see if I had ECC ram, or if there was a similar issue that vista reports07:15
Dr_Willisive not had to mess with ram in ages.07:15
thechisi certainly have07:16
arshadok. now ubu 8.04 is already installed on my xp. so if i want to install ubu thru Virtualbox in any other sys i can do it by downloading Virtualbox ver 2.1.2 what is avaliable on google search07:16
xp-killerDr_Willis: but this problem only happens when i try to take a file bigger than 400mb from linux to vista07:17
xp-killergoing to sleep bye07:18
thechisxp-killer: how do you do the copy?07:18
Dr_Willistoo late07:18
Dr_Willis:P07:18
arshadhow do i install wine over gnome n kde07:25
Dr_Willis'over gnome n kde' makes little sence07:26
Dr_WillisYou install wine with 'sudo apt-get install wine'07:26
Dr_Willisor install the latest wine from the winehq repos.07:26
arshadthanks07:27
arshadhope it wont effect windows files07:28
arshadfor a first time user07:28
Dr_Williswine has nothing to do with 'windows'  at all07:28
Dr_WillisIt dosent use or need any windows files07:28
Dr_Willisit makes its own 'windows' setup in .wine07:29
arshadbye Dr_Willis07:30
arshada good mentor07:31
smeg0lhey07:31
Dr_Willishmmm?07:31
smeg0lii run  kubuntu 9.04 alpha 4 and in firefox  there is no sound when i run flash07:32
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Guest78065hi everyone07:35
smeg0lhi Guest7806507:35
Guest78065lol07:36
Guest78065how can i change that name07:36
MaxexclooHey07:38
MaxexclooWhere do I thank the team?07:38
Maxexcloo:D07:38
Spinshankello07:39
SpinshankMaxexcloo: nice ip lol07:39
Spinshankdynamic masked ip07:39
MaxexclooWhat about my IP?07:42
Kaushalhi room07:42
KaushalI have a promlem07:42
Spinshankits a dynamic masked ip07:43
KaushalI want to partion my ubuntu drive can any buddy help me to how can i partion it07:43
KaushalMeans I want to shrink my ubuntu partion07:44
Spinshankhmm07:45
Spinshankgoogle07:45
Spinshanklol07:45
Spinshanku just used the guiled install?07:45
KaushalSpinshank: but there is not a proper solution?07:46
Spinshanki dont know lol07:46
* Dr_Willis missed the problem.07:46
Dr_Willisand alpha discissuin is in  #ubuntu+107:46
Kaushalmy system is dual boot and there is vista and ubuntu both I have given 25 gb to vista and rest for ubuntu but now i want to shrink the drive where the ununtu has installed07:47
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Spinshankhmm07:48
Spinshanki think your stuffed your self up07:48
Dr_Willisa live cd + gparted can resize . but that MIGHT mess the fstab/grub entries IF the UUID of the parittion changes07:48
KaushalSpinshank: I have installed the gparted but it is not working.07:48
Dr_Willisbut thats not too hard to fix07:48
Dr_WillisYou can Not resize the aprittion if you are booting from it07:48
Dr_Williswell not easially at least. :)07:48
Spinshanku need 2 boot with the live cd07:49
Spinshankand fix it07:49
Spinshankor get dsl and do it07:49
Spinshankit only 80mb lol07:50
Dr_WillisThe kubuntu desktop cd can do it. you may need to 'apt-get install gparted' first07:50
Spinshankso you can run it off a usb device07:50
Spinshankis it me or the sound drivers a better on linux than windows?07:51
KaushalDr_Willis: I have installed it but the resize option is not highlighted there07:51
Spinshankare*07:51
Dr_WillisKaushal,  you are booting from a LIVE CD?07:51
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KaushalDr_Willis: No i am using the system->administration->partition editor07:54
Dr_WillisKaushal,  and as we mentioned earlier you can NOT NOT NOT resize a parittion thats in use. (Mounted).  you MUST use a live cd.  or some how unmount the parittion07:54
Kaushalcan u please send the me the link where i could download it07:55
quassel70\name07:56
KaushalDr_Willis: Please provide me the link07:58
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Dr_WillisBoot a live cd that has it.. any of them can do it. kubuntu live cd can - but you sill need to insdtall 'gparted' first on it.07:59
Dr_WillisThe kubuntu desktop cd can do it. you may need to 'apt-get install gparted' first08:00
Dr_Willisor google/get the 'gparted live cd' that exists. its handy. and includes it08:00
Dr_Willistheres also a 'system rescue live cd' that has it and more tools08:00
chowanyone teach me how to install flash plugin?08:06
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chow1942anyone teach me how to install flash plugin?08:08
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Dr_Willis!flash08:14
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash08:14
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras   'SHOULD' grab flash and some other stuff you may want08:14
olskolirccan someone tell me why I can't drag and drop programs into any of my panels anymore?  I'm on Kubuntu with kde 4.2 final08:15
olskolirccan anyone tell me why I can't use my menu editor?  I can't save changes.08:29
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olskolircCould not write to /home/debzbox/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu How do I fix this?08:36
slhkolskolirc: try: ls -la /home/debzbox/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu08:39
olskolircls: cannot access /home/debzbox/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu: Permission denied slhk08:41
slhkolskolirc: that means you don't have rights to read one of the directories in that  path08:42
olskolircok08:42
olskolircI found the block right here slhk ls: cannot open directory /home/debzbox/.config/menus: Permission denied08:43
slhkyou can use chmod to change permissions or chown to change the owning user if it is wrong08:46
slhkyou can also use a file manager like dolphin if you're more confortable08:46
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jim_phow can i make konqueror to auto-add www. and .com when i hit ctrl and enter?08:53
jim_pand hi08:53
ugurhi everybody i have a problem with my firefox 3.05 after using for some period it stops loading new pages08:54
ugurespecially after opening big and long to load pages08:54
jim_pugur, dns problem maybe?08:55
ugurhi may be but when i restart it works properly again08:55
ugurit looks like the loading of a big page blocks other tabs08:56
HollowPointugur, have you tried to load the same pages in another browser like Konqueror or Opera?08:56
HollowPointjim I'm not sure you can, Konqueror is far from my browser of choice, even for file systems to be honest08:56
uguryes it works in opera for example while firefox cannot open the same page08:56
HollowPointugur do you have any special plugins enabled?08:57
uguri have many plugins08:57
jim_pugur, i get it to happen sometimes. its because my router (or is it ff) does not do multiple connections to server. one connection draws all the bandwidth and...08:57
uguryes i think you are right jim_p08:57
uguri dont have fasterfox enabled08:58
HollowPointIf you have lots of plugins ugur you'll probably find the recent update (Last few days) may have screwed with your plugins and may be causing this issue, that's assuming of course it didn't happen before the update08:58
uguri have this problem for a long time08:59
ugurnot so frequent though09:00
uguras i said it works properly after restarting ff so it looks like a bug to me09:00
uguror some misconfiguration09:00
HollowPointnot a bug I've heard of though, so far more likely to be a conflict you have on your machine, either pluginwise or other software09:01
HollowPointyou say you have a lot of plugins and that is very commonly known to cause issues with FF's performance09:01
uguryes but it is ff's pros to support many plugins i think09:02
ugurotherwise it would be like ie09:02
HollowPointpros?09:02
jim_pugur, do something simple. open a large page with ff and then open opera or another browser and open a small page. will it be slow?09:02
HollowPointjim_p: He's already confirmed that Opera will open the same page properly09:03
jim_poh sorry09:03
HollowPointnp09:03
jim_pthen set ff some limits09:03
uguryes09:03
HollowPointI'd say disable some plugins, one at a time and then in combinations, see if you have the same problems while certain plugins are disabled. I know it sounds tedious but that's the best way to find out whats wrong. I'd start with network based plugins of course09:04
ugurbut it is not a frequent problem i don't know when will it happen09:05
HollowPointso it happens on a web page but then if you try that web page again on another occassion it doesn't happen?09:05
uguryes it looks like when i am loading a big page ff cannot finish loading the whole page09:06
ugurstuck on the process09:07
ugurand after that when i stop loading i cannot load another page09:07
HollowPointbut does it do it on the same web page if you restart firefox and try again? Or does that same web page just load fine?09:07
ugurno after restarting ff everthing turn back to normal09:07
HollowPointeven on that same website?09:07
jim_phow can i make konqueror to auto-add www. and .com when i hit ctrl and enter?09:08
HollowPointjim_p: not sure you can mate, I don't use Konqueror very much because I don't really rate it as a browser in comparison to Opera, FF3 and even Chrome on Windows09:08
uguryes same page loads correctly after restart09:09
jim_pHollowPoint, thanks. damn stupid konq. EVEN IE ON WINDOWS HAS THAT FEATURE09:09
HollowPointthat's very strange ugur, I would suggest it MUST be a conflict, either with a plugin or with some other software you may have running at the time.09:09
ugurok guys thanks for your help09:10
HollowPointIf you like Konqueror jim_p then I wouldn't give up on it, it's very configurable from what I'm told so you may have some luck with asking another Konqueror user09:10
HollowPointnp ugur, sorry I couldn't offer more help on the matter09:10
Claw6anybody can help me ?09:22
Claw6seems like my network isnt working (wired and wireless too)09:22
klauswer09:27
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ugurhave you tried restarting knetworkmanager claw6?09:28
Claw6ya09:28
Claw6its a fresh install09:28
uguror may be disabling and enabling it again09:28
Claw6using a IBM T4109:28
uguris it 8.10?09:29
HollowPointintrepid?09:29
Claw68.1009:29
HollowPointfresh install, no updates etc?09:29
Claw6fresh09:29
HollowPointok, is the machine receiving it's networking details by dhcp?09:30
Claw6ya09:30
Claw6seems like its not setting up any connection09:30
ugurdo you see the cable connection in knetworkmanager?09:30
HollowPointok if you open konsole/console/terminal (whatever) and type ping www.google.com, what happens?09:30
uguralso try "ifconfig eth0" in a console and tell the result09:31
Claw6unknown host09:31
HollowPointok try ping 66.249.89.14709:31
michal__hi09:35
michal__i have problem with amarok...09:35
ugurwhat is your problem?09:36
Claw6"network is unreachable"09:36
michal__im trying to listen any internet radio, but amarok says that some dekoder is missing09:36
HollowPointok Claw6 if you type ifconfig, can you pastebin the result please?09:36
alarm_hello. my kubuntu boots up really slow. it takes something like 5 minutes to finish with booting and log in09:38
HollowPointalarm_: is it a fresh install? Or one that you've modified?09:38
alarm_what could i check to see whats wrong and why does it take so long. i dont find it a normal time (compared to debian)09:38
michal__so, any ideas what can be the reason?09:38
alarm_HollowPoint,  installed it like 2-3 weeks and the only thing added is kde 4.209:38
Tm_Tmichal__: install kubuntu-restricted-extras package?09:39
michal__Tm nope, its a fresh installed OS09:39
alarm_i tried some tips that i found online to reduce boot up time, but did not make much difference09:39
HollowPointalarm_: what's your hardware configuration?09:39
michal__what should i type in in terminal ?09:39
alarm_HollowPoint,  if you can be more specific09:39
Tm_Tmichal__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras09:40
HollowPointalarm_: I mean your processor, RAM, Motherboard etc09:40
alarm_i am using a laptop. 2.5 dual core. 4gb ram . nvidia860009:40
alarm_ok, hdd on laptops are not the fastest, but this doesnt explain the low boot up time09:41
michal__its installing it now, gonna take few mins i guess09:41
alarm_not at those levels at least. i disabled all unneeded daemons and servers that i did not need allready, like ppp, or bluetooth, printers etc09:42
HollowPointby the sound of that laptop it's a faster machine than mine, and mine runs Intrepid with KDE4.2 fine09:43
alarm_i honestly dont know. but it was slow also right after the fresh install09:43
michal__Tm it finished installation09:44
michal__should i reboot now?09:44
alarm_i am reading on the web boot times like 20-30seconds. i am not excepting something like that. but not 5 minutes. thats way too much09:44
michal__brb, got to reboot09:46
michal__Tm its working fine now09:49
michal__thanks a lot for your help guys09:50
KlavKalashjHi guys09:54
KlavKalashjCan anyone help me with a small thing regarding kopete in 9.04a4?09:54
KlavKalashjoh nevermind btw09:54
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chayhello09:58
chayhello09:59
chaybonjour10:01
KlavKalashjhello chay :P10:01
chayqui ce que tu fais10:02
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slow-motionhi10:28
shakedownhi10:28
slow-motionhi shakedown10:30
shakedownhi was gibts10:31
shakedowngeht bei euch der abjects server?10:31
Tm_T!de | shakedown10:32
ubottushakedown: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.10:32
michal__can any1 help me with java installation?10:35
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ahoxHi, how do I set the monitor refresh rate manually?10:35
ahoxThe display settings tell me my max refreh rate is 60Hz (on a CRT) :-(10:36
PeepsFor those that use Klient, is there any way to vertically stack the tabs, rather than horizontilly?10:42
Peepsha. nevermind10:44
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thomas__salut tout le monde10:54
Tm_Ttntnet: päivää10:55
tntnetpäivää10:56
Tm_Tthomas__: guten dagen10:57
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tntneton ilmeisesti muitakin suomalaisia täällä10:58
firestormehm10:58
Tm_T!fi | tntnet10:58
ubottutntnet: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi10:58
Tm_Ttntnet: plenty everywhere10:58
tntnetsorry - I know this was OT or better OL (off-language) ;-)10:59
firestorm?10:59
Tm_Tfirestorm: ciao a tutti for you too (:10:59
firestormciao :-)11:00
Tm_T!it | firestorm just so you know too11:01
ubottufirestorm just so you know too: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)11:01
firestormno problem11:01
firestormi can speak english11:01
Tm_Tsplendid11:02
tntnetme too11:03
firestormquestion: is my ip hidden?11:04
Tm_Tfirestorm: is not11:04
kronicKoHAnyone around?11:07
firestormah i really should work that out11:07
KlavKalashjanyone know how to setup the bookmark icon in konqueror? or is it a bug in 9.04, that nothing happends when clicking it?11:07
kronicKoHWell I know some are around, but I question the best method to setup kubuntu on a hp tc4400 (tablet pc) without using flash drive or external ROM drivers.11:08
kronicKoHI have many copies of kubuntu, kubuntu studio and 64 studio as well as others.. YDL for Ps311:09
kronicKoHalthough I wouldlike to learn a new method for a solid reinstall of linux without external sources, eg, VMWARE11:09
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thomas__salve a tutti con chi posso parlare per aiuto?11:20
Tm_T!it | thomas__11:20
ubottuthomas__: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)11:20
thomas__sorry11:21
gambashi everyone11:27
monika_Hallo jemand hier für Hilfe?11:33
firestormitalian channel?11:35
failersastromme: are you here? :)11:45
zaapiel-mobilehey whats the default key to do the expose style thing with kde 4.2?12:09
dutlermouse to upper left corner12:09
Dr_Willisand yes - thats disabableable. :)12:10
Dr_Willisdis-able-able? :)12:10
dutlerim not sure on the keybinding12:10
zaapiel-mobilety dutler12:10
kronicKoHhaha12:11
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kronicKoHany alive?12:15
zaapiel-mobileyeah but im worthless at anything with kde12:16
zaapiel-mobilei just switched12:16
Tm_T!any | kronicKoH12:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about any12:16
Tm_T!anyone | kronicKoH12:16
ubottukronicKoH: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:16
zaapiel-mobileo snap12:16
Dr_Willis!anything12:17
ubottuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.12:17
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Malicis there a repository which contains acroread?12:19
Malicfor kde 4.212:19
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__andrea__prova_test12:23
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Brujahhy everybody12:31
JP-sNL3o/12:32
kronicKoH1Hey Brujah12:34
BrujahI am just trying to get jaunty running with my laptop. First thing I noticed is that my synaptics pad is not working :-(12:35
jussi01Brujah: Jaunty in #ubuntu+1 please ;)12:37
kronicKoH1Am having trouble doing VNC  behind my netgear router on local area IP *.312:38
kronicKoH1port 580012:38
Brujahokay. -> out to #kubuntu+1 :-)12:38
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RussellAlanHola mi amigos12:39
RussellAlanDeutch12:39
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Bugs_BunnyBRhello peoplo12:45
Bugs_BunnyBRpele*12:45
Bugs_BunnyBRpople**12:45
jussi01!de | RussellAlan12:45
ubottuRussellAlan: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.12:45
Bugs_BunnyBRpeople***12:45
Bugs_BunnyBRhumm...how can I get support in portuguese??12:45
jussi01!pt12:45
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.12:45
Bugs_BunnyBR!pt12:45
Bugs_BunnyBRhow I can enter in this channel..I am not a irc user..12:46
Bugs_BunnyBRI got12:46
jussi01Bugs_BunnyBR: type: /join #ubuntu-pt12:46
Bugs_BunnyBRThanks12:46
jussi01:)12:46
Bugs_BunnyBRThanks a lot12:47
drostieKDE 4.2 is slick. ^_^ I'm glad I installed the jaunty alpha.12:47
Bugs_BunnyBRwhat improve the kde4.2 is better to you?12:48
Bugs_BunnyBRThe Nvidia driver problem is solved??12:48
jussi01drostie: please use #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support12:48
drostieBugs_BunnyBR: I don't know whether an nVidia driver problem is solved.12:49
drostie(I have a laptop, so I'm stuck with integrated graphics anyway.)12:49
Bugs_BunnyBRit's your graphics of ati or nvidia?12:49
jussi01Again, Jaunty discussion and support in in #ubuntu+1 please.12:50
gopher_Hello12:51
Bugs_BunnyBRI need to go..thanks anyway12:52
drostiejussi01: I don't really have any support questions specific to jaunty.12:53
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kronicKoHHELP12:56
* drostie helps.12:56
kronicKoHCONVINCE ME TO SWITCH TO KUBUNTU ON PS312:56
kronicKoHno mas caps12:57
drostieerm. what? you want to get a ps3 to run kubuntu?12:57
kronicKoHnot really12:57
kronicKoHbut it would be fun12:57
drostiewell, not as fun as playing games on the PS3 :-P12:58
kronicKoHi see..12:58
kronicKoHso stay with Yellow Dog Linux12:59
kronicKoHthey are upgrading their's to 6.112:59
kronicKoHtherefore free games, less drivers to find weeee12:59
drostieBut we're coming up on 9.04. That's literally 48% more.13:00
drostie^_^13:00
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kronicKoH9>04?13:03
drostie9 is indeed greater than 04.13:04
tomcI'm trying to launch  my first bash script, on Kubuntu 8.10. It's a no go, and I cannot see why. Code - in file rub.sh -13:07
tomc#!/bin/bash13:07
tomcecho "Hello, World"13:07
tomcDirt simple. It's marked executable. I'm the owner. My question: what obvious (to others) thing might I have forgotten? I click on the file and nothing happens. At the command line I get this:13:07
tomc$ rub.sh13:07
tomcbash: rub.sh: command not found13:07
tomcWould appreciate any help!!13:07
tomcSorry for the multi-line salad. Not IRC-experienced. Don't know what happened.13:07
drostieYou have to call an executable command out of the current directory.13:07
slygenttried ./rub.sh ?13:08
drostieas in, ./rub.sh13:08
tomcWell  @#$%@#$%13:08
tomcThat's it. Who'd a thunk it?13:08
drostie^_^13:08
tomcI NEVER use that way of referring to a file. I just name it. E.g., to launch a ruby program, I just enter ruby {prog.-name} and it runs.13:09
tomcSo, why does not clicking on it do it?13:09
tomcI mean, it's "executable". I've clicked on other *.sh scripts, as part of an application program installation, and they just flew.13:10
drostieWell, the reason you have to specify the folder explicitly *somehow* is because that directory isn't in your system path.13:10
drostieYou should be able to run it also by clicking or double clicking it in Dolphin etc.13:11
tomcohhhhhh. ya know...that just about makes sense!13:11
tomcI'm in Dolphin. Double click get me NOTHING. Strange. I'm OK with CLI, for sure, but still...13:12
drostieHrm. Maybe the echo command is occurring, but just isn't sending output anywhere. What if you pipe it to a prespecified file and see whether running the script in Dolphin does that?13:13
drostieecho "Hello World" > ~/myfile13:13
tomcwill try.13:13
gopher__argh.13:16
tomcnope. With the CLI window open below, I can see that NOTHING happens on a double click. Normally, that window will track anything I do in the  GUI above, but when I do a double click nothing at all happens. I wonder it Konqueror would do the same. Will go test. May be a Dolphin thing.13:17
drostieSo the file isn't created?13:17
drostietomc: I see something similar in my version. Dolphin does indeed run the script, but this fact does not appear in the F4 Terminal panel.13:22
gopher__um, halp13:22
* drostie helps. :-P13:22
soei h13:22
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soehi13:22
drostie.o l l e h13:23
gopher__Okay, I just got an SL300 Thunkpad and stuck kubuntu 8.10 on it, and... my brightness varies between 20 and 25.13:23
hulu_hi! after a reboot because of a hang up, i cant log in. after the password input a black screen appears and a short time after that im back at kdm. Can somebody help me?13:23
hulu_i use kde 4.213:23
soei have multi-desktop problems in kubuntu 8.0413:23
drostiethree people at once. right.13:24
soeif i change number of desktop it does not greate or after reboot is again oli 213:24
soeolny*13:24
soecreate*13:24
drostiegopher__: what do you mean by brightness varying between 20 and 25?13:24
drostielike, the screen is brightening or darkening randomly, or...?13:25
soesorry i have a bad hangover, so my english is bad too13:25
drostiehulu_: did you install kde 4.2 from the experimental repository onto kubuntu 8.10? or what?13:25
gopher__The Fn+Home/End works fine to control the brightness up or down, but instead of having the full range of brightness controls, it essentially has two settings13:25
gopher__fyi, KDE 4.1, kernel 2.6.27-1113:26
tomcre: file created: No, it isn't, not on a click-launch. I assume it is with ./rub.sh. Also cannot get a response in konqueror. Don't understand this. Is "executable" but not really????13:26
tomcWell, not a critical issue for me. You solved my core problem - I can now launch bash scripts. Onward with the task at hand. Many thanks.13:27
drostiesoe: sorry, kubuntu 8.04 isn't really my thing, since I just joined Kubuntu a little while back, and wasn't around for KDEs < 4.13:27
hulu_drostie: i installed it with some repository i added to my sources.list. i think this is the normal way. why?13:27
drostiesoe: Maybe google has some relevant help?13:28
drostiehulu_: but you're running intrepid?13:28
hulu_yes13:28
drostietomc: no prob.13:29
drostiehulu_: that's bad stuff. You're the third person, including myself, who I've met that's run into problems installing diretly.13:30
drostiehulu_: that is, installing kde 4.2 directly onto intrepid.13:30
czarnypoland13:30
czarnypolska13:30
czarnyhej13:31
Tm_T!pl | czarny13:31
ubottuczarny: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl13:31
BluesKajHiyas all13:31
hulu_drostie: i had the same problem one time before. (dolphin always hangs up my kde). but after i did a reboot once again the problem has gone.13:31
hulu_now i have rebooted a few times and nothing helps13:32
drostieI really wish that someone who got KDE4.2 installed right on intrepid would post a detailed walkthrough for the rest of us.13:32
drostiehulu_: you can access a text console from KDM (or anywhere) by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 (and Ctrl-Alt-F7 to return to the graphical interface).13:34
BluesKajdrostie , i just got here , would you mind repeating your problem/issue ?13:34
hulu_drostie: you also cant login?13:35
drostiehulu_: maybe your logs say something about why KDE is crashing?13:35
gopher__heya BluesKaj13:35
hulu_i have no plan how to do that..13:35
BluesKajhi gopher__13:35
drostieI could login on KDE 4.2, but just about everything worthwhile was broken. Like those toolbars at the top of windows that let you close them. And internet. And keyboard input. Useful stuff like that.13:35
drostieSo I installed the jaunty alpha and that gave me a working KDE 4.2.13:36
hulu_BluesKaj: Can you help me? I cant login to kde 4.2 (intrepid) how can i find the problem?13:37
BluesKajhulu_ do you have a login screen ?13:38
drostiejust copying and pasting from before: [14:23:29] <hulu_> hi! after a reboot because of a hang up, i cant log in. after the password input a black screen appears and a short time after that im back at kdm. Can somebody help me?13:39
hulu_Blueskaj: yes, that works. after i put in my password and press enter a black screen comes and after that im back to the log in screen13:39
gopher_I hate being in this country.13:39
drostiecould be worse. You could be in another country. :-P13:40
hulu_drostie: did you have some dependency problems when you upgraded to the "final kde 4.2". Because i had problems and therefore kwin and other things were not installed by apt-get13:40
gopher_I'd prefer another country, one with a fatter pipe that doesn't randomly drop packets every 5 minutes!13:40
hulu_*gad13:40
hulu_h13:40
Tm_T!ot | gopher_13:40
ubottugopher_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!13:40
gopher_:>13:41
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gopher_So, uh, yeah, brightness. I can't cat/echo over the entry in /proc/acpi etc because it's implemented more properly.13:41
BluesKajhulu_ ,ctrl+alt +F1 , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then aftergo thru the choices and settings and you're back to the prompt type strartx13:41
BluesKajerr startx. hulu_13:42
hulu_i will try13:42
czarnyfuck the polish duck :)13:43
czarnyjest tu jakiś polak?13:43
BluesKaj!language | czarny13:43
ubottuczarny: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:43
hulu_bluesKaj: startx gives back that i the server is already active for display 0#13:46
czarnyubottou , what do you mean?13:48
BluesKajhulu_ relogin13:48
JontyHow can I make NetworkManager automatically connect me to a wireless network before KNetworkManager starts up. It's annoying having to wait when it could be doing it during boot.13:48
Walzmynczarny ubottou is a bot, and he means watch your language13:48
hulu_Blueskay: i presst strg alt f7 and now im back to kdm. but the problem is still there13:49
BluesKaj!wireless | Jonty13:49
ubottuJonty: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:49
czarnywalmazym, I can't speak in my language? I MUST use a english"?13:49
BluesKaj!pl | czarny13:50
ubottuczarny: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl13:50
czarnykurde to o co hałas?13:50
Walzmynczarny, actually, yes, this is an english channel, but we were refering to the profanity13:50
BluesKaj!english | czarny13:50
hulu_Blueskaj: i presst strg alt f7 and now im back to kdm. but the problem is still there13:50
ubottuczarny: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat13:50
BluesKajhulu , what graphics card are you using ?13:51
hulu_ati mobility radeon 970013:53
BluesKajhulu_ , are you on irssi ?13:53
hulu_what is irssi?13:53
BluesKajit's a command line irc client13:54
hulu_its konversation on my desktopß pc13:54
hulu_my notebook has the problem :)13:55
hulu_why? Blueskaj?13:57
BluesKajok, I didn't realize you had 2 machines, i should have checked13:58
hulu_okay13:58
BluesKajdo you have the ati-fglrx driver installed for the radeon 970014:00
hulu_hm i dont know.. but i dont think so, i have no extra drivers installed.14:00
hulu_isnt there a log file.. where i can see the error?14:02
BluesKajhulu_ , try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , just to make sure there's nothing missing14:02
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Lordipolska14:03
Lordiubottu daj linka na polski irc14:04
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:04
hulu_BluesKaj: how can i do that without internat connection?14:04
hulu_e14:04
Lordinie ma żadnego polaka?14:04
Lordipuk puk14:05
Lordipolish irc14:06
hulu_BluesKaj: apt-get wants to install that package. (but it can not because there is no connection to the internet). Do i need that package?14:07
bazhang!pl | Lordi14:07
ubottuLordi: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl14:07
hulu_kde 4.2 worked fine before..14:07
BluesKajhulu_ , it's kde desktop14:09
ubuntistasis the new  kubuntu available in synaptic manager?14:09
ubuntistaskubuntu 8.10?14:09
DarkSmokehey guys, fresh install of kubuntu upgraded to kde4.2 and now i don't have a window manager and the keyboard is not working once in kde but in kdm it works14:10
DarkSmokeany help ?14:10
hulu_Blueskaj: yes but i dont think that it is missing, although he wants to install that( maybe because he has no connection to the internet) ...now i get a error message when i type in startx:14:10
BluesKajhulu_ , you really should try to connect the laptop to the internet if possible ...it will be much easier to upgrade the packages required14:10
JontyHow can I make NetworkManager automatically connect me to a wireless network at boot? I've checked the wireless networking information but it doesn't seem to say how to do it before the relevent applet loads.14:10
hulu_BluesKaj: but how can i do that with the command line?14:11
BluesKajJonty, dunno but i think you need patience rather than worrying about being online instantly ...wireless takes more time than hardwired connections14:12
DarkSmokesomebody help me quickly guys im on irssi without a GUI14:12
jmasuccihello everybody14:13
JontyBluesKaj: yes, I know it takes time, but there seems to be no documentation whatsoever for people who want it to start at boot rather than when KDE starts.14:13
jmasuccimay I ask if jaunty is planning to ship with qt 4.5?14:13
JontyBluesKaj: it's precisely because it takes time that I want it to start as early as possible14:13
BluesKajhulu_, does the laptop have a wired connection to an internet device like a modem or router ?14:14
bazhangjmasucci, jaunty discussion in #ubuntu+114:15
jmasucciok sorry14:15
jmasucci:)14:15
hulu_yes to a router14:16
hulu_Blueskaj14:16
BluesKajhulu, can you connect to the internet ?14:18
hulu_Blueskaj in kde 4.2 , but i dont know how i can do that with the command line. knetwormanager is no console program14:19
BluesKajhulu_, on the laptop go to the command line by ctrl+alt+f1, then you will be at a prompt , then sudo apt-get update14:22
ubuntistasis kubuntu 8.10 fast?14:23
BluesKajubuntistas , fgaster than what ?14:23
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hulu_1blueskaj: im back.. it worked. i have installed the kubuntu-desktop package. (20kb) but nothing changed.. reboot=14:27
hulu_1?14:27
BluesKajyes hulu_114:27
hulu_1malakhi?14:29
hulu_1Blueskaj: the problem is still there14:29
hulu_1sorry.. malakhi, i want to >>Mamarok :)14:30
hulu_1Blueskaj: when i type into the command line startkde  there comes the message $Display is not set.. how can i solve that14:32
hulu_1hwo can i set the right display14:33
BluesKajhmm, hulu_ maybe your fglrx driver radeon driver isn't up to date14:34
BluesKajhulu_ , were you running kde 4.1 on the laptop previously ?14:35
hulu_1yes before kde 4.214:35
hulu_1kde 4.1 then 4.1 beta2 then kde 4.214:36
BluesKajhulu_1, try installing the fglrx-kernel-source from the command line , sudo apt-get install fglrx-kernel-source xserver-xorg-video-radeon radeontool xserver-xorg-video-ati14:45
hulu_1when i type in the command line touch --help.. i cant see the whole content(only the lower part) how can i change this14:45
hulu_1BluesKaj: first i will try to rename .kde14:45
BluesKajuse the tab kety to navigate14:45
hulu_1how can i do that.. i think with touch .kde .kde-backup14:46
hulu_1right?14:46
BluesKajdon't rename anything14:46
hulu_1why not? i think at the login .kde is created when kdm cant find it ,14:47
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BluesKajhulu_1 try : sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart14:52
hulu_1thank you that you spend your time with me :). i will try that.. but first i have to reboot once again14:53
hulu_1Blueskaj: after that i get a black screen14:55
BluesKajhulu_1, try installing the fglrx-kernel-source from the command line , sudo apt-get install fglrx-kernel-source xserver-xorg-video-radeon radeontool xserver-xorg-video-ati14:56
crashit_question: anybody else problems with installing KDE 4.2 on a fresh Kubuntu 8.10 installation?14:56
hulu_1yes: crashit: i had a lot of dependency problems.14:57
BluesKajuhmm, the latest 8.10 comes with 4.2 , does it not ?14:57
bazhangnope14:57
hulu_1Blueskaj: do you think i really need that?14:57
crashit_Nope, with 4.114:57
bazhangneed a ppa14:57
BluesKajhulu_1, I reall do think you have a video driver issue , that should cover it if the fglrx driver isn't updated14:58
hulu_1okay14:58
crashit_Is it possible to fix those dependency problems? I've got them too... :(14:58
BluesKajbazhang http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.214:59
ubuntistasgdm or kdm?14:59
BluesKajkdm, prolly , this kubuntu15:00
BluesKajis15:00
bazhangBluesKaj, right, and you need to add that repo to get it15:00
ubuntistasgdm is the old one?15:00
bazhangBluesKaj, ie not standard with kubuntu 8.1015:00
BluesKajI have it bazhang , I thought you were asking :)15:00
bazhang<BluesKaj> uhmm, the latest 8.10 comes with 4.2 , does it not ?15:01
bazhangheh15:01
ubuntistaswhich is the new one?15:01
bazhangubuntistas, new kubuntu kde?15:02
bazhangubuntistas, the higher number15:02
ubuntistasyes15:02
bazhang4.215:02
hulu_1back again.. Blueskaj:nothing changed15:02
BluesKajwell bazhang, I installed 8.10 before kde4.2 was out , now that it's officially released I assumed it would be the default in the latest 8.10 releases15:02
bazhangBluesKaj, I wish it were so15:03
crashit_it is only possible to install KDE 4.2 after you installed 8.10 with KDE 4.115:03
bazhangubuntistas, see the topic for a link to how to install the latest15:03
bazhangubuntistas, you already have kde4 right?15:04
BluesKajwell hulu_1 , sorry I have to admit I'm stumped ...maybe others can help15:04
ubuntistasbazhang i downloaded it via terminal and it's asking me kdm or gdm?15:04
bazhangubuntistas, then choose one15:04
crashit_But that is for the moment also impossible, because of the dependency error...15:04
ubuntistaswhat?15:05
bazhangkdm/gdm <---choose 115:05
ubuntistaswhat's the difference?15:05
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Bugs_BunnyBRhey people15:06
Bugs_BunnyBRI updated my kde 4.1 on kubuntu 8.10 to kde4.215:07
Bugs_BunnyBRAnd I got a lot of problems15:07
Bugs_BunnyBRthe windows has no buttons to close and minimize15:08
francescohello15:08
hulu_1you have dependency problems: install kwin15:08
hulu_1Bugs_BunnyBR15:08
Bugs_BunnyBRok15:08
Bugs_BunnyBRI will try15:08
Bugs_BunnyBRjust one sec15:08
bazhang!info kwin15:08
ubottukwin (source: kdebase-workspace): the KDE 4 window manager (KWin). In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 38 kB, installed size 304 kB15:08
hulu_1can someone help me.. i cant login to my kde 4.215:09
Bugs_BunnyBRI instaled here..I will check if it works..and if don't..I will come back15:09
Bugs_BunnyBRthanks15:09
hulu_1thank you Bluesjaj15:10
ubuntistaswhat's the difference between kdm and gdm?15:10
bazhangubuntistas, not a great deal15:11
bazhangthey are the display managers for X11 for kde and gnome respectively15:12
hulu_1Blueskaj: maybe gdm solves the problem?15:12
ubuntistasi selected kdm15:13
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ubuntistashow can i change it?15:13
hulu_1gdm is for gnome15:13
hulu_1kdm is standard for kde15:13
arshadHi15:15
ubuntistasaha ok15:15
Blues-Manhi all15:16
Blues-Manhow can I restore default kde 4.2 user settings?I can't access anymore from kdm, it gives me back the kde screen15:16
Blues-Manbut from another user i can access15:17
hulu_1Blues-Man? whats your problem.. you cant login?15:17
BluesKajhulu_1,  I installed pure gnome after my kde 4.2 failed , made sure that everything worked graphics-wise , then I installed pure kde , which is 4.1 then i upgraded to 4.2 ...it's the long way around but if you're serious , it'll work15:17
Blues-Manhulu_1 yes, I do the login then instead of having the kde loading i got a black screen and then the kdm again15:18
Blues-Manlike something gets wrong in loading15:18
hulu_1BluesKaj:15:18
Blues-Mani remember i closed it as poweroff and not from menu15:19
hulu_1I have installed gdm.. now the login works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!15:19
hulu_1Blueskaj: seems to be a bug in kdm!!15:19
BluesKajok cool hulu_1 , glad to hear it15:19
jussi01Blues-Man: try renaming your .kde to .kde-old15:19
Blues-Manmm and do you know how to restore old settings15:19
jussi01thatll reset all settings in kde15:19
Blues-Manok i'll try tnx15:20
arshadHelp Plzz.....   my KDE 3.2 on GNOME was idle for 4-5 hours and to surprise slipped into a black screen with showed BusyBox with the version details and Exit command did not work. Had to manually restart15:20
bazhanghulu_1, yay!15:20
arshadis it a bug15:20
hulu_1Blueskaj: hm.. next problem.. the login stops after the world appears15:20
arshadKDE was not logged off nor the screen was locked15:20
hulu_1Blueskaj: maybe because of these fglrx packages.. can i remove them?15:21
BluesKajhulu_1, yeah15:22
BluesKajthe fglrx driver is required for your graphics card , hulu_115:23
hulu_1udo apt-get remove fglrx-kernel-source xserver-xorg-video-radeon radeontool xserver-xorg-video-ati15:23
Crusteranyone using network manager plasmoid can tell me if in "manage connections" there is available option "system connection" ?15:23
hulu_1yes Blueskaj, but it worked fine without it.. so it seems kde 4.2 doesnt need these extra packages15:23
BluesKajI repeat : hulu_1,  I installed pure gnome after my kde 4.2 failed , made sure that everything worked graphics-wise , then I installed pure kde , which is 4.1 then i upgraded to 4.2 ...it's the long way around but if you're serious , it'll work15:26
BluesKajhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome15:26
hulu_1Blueskaj: i dont want to reinstall my kde15:28
arshadcan anyone help PLzz15:29
BluesKajwell., sorry hulu_1 , I'm out of ideas15:31
zedxterhello!!15:32
bazhangarshad, kde3.2 on gnome?15:32
Crusteranyone using network manager plasmoid?15:32
arshadyes15:32
bazhangarshad, what does that mean15:32
arshadinstalled KDE desktop in GNOME15:33
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bazhangarshad, I think you mean either 4.2 or 3.5.915:33
arshadsorry its  3.5.915:34
ayarhi15:34
bazhangarshad, what version of ubuntu/kubuntu15:34
ayarme?15:34
arshadUbuntu 8.0415:34
ayaroh15:34
bazhangarshad, and this is fully uptodate? ie 8.04.2?15:35
arshadno, still updates avaliable to go with15:36
hulu_1Blueskaj: please hold on tight!! I had no more disk space in my home partition. therefore gdm stops the login process. but anyway. i think kdm is buggy15:36
utdmrWhere can i change the system sound theme in Kubuntu Intrepid. I downloaded a system sound package from kdelook, extracted to /usr/share/sounds. How can I activate this?15:36
bazhangarshad, and can you get a recovery console, or login again to update?15:36
hulu_1Blueskaj: is there a way to switch between kdm and gdm?15:36
tuetensuppeI have problems with my nvidia graphics driver15:37
tuetensuppeunder kubuntu 8.1015:37
arshadin KDE ??15:38
tuetensuppebinary driver from repository was working15:38
arshadin GNOME yes, had manually restarted the system and it was back to normal login and working well15:38
tuetensuppetried to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run manually15:38
tuetensuppei am always getting a low-graphics dialog...15:39
tuetensuppeeven if i try to install the "old" driver15:39
hulu_1arshad: do you know how i can make kdm to my standard log in manager15:39
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tuetensuppeanyone can help?15:40
arshadas soon as u select either KDE or GNOME from options u hav  popup asking wether to make default  your selection and other tick not to ask again well that might work15:43
ariefa15:46
hulu_1thx.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm works15:46
hulu_1another question: is there a backup file for .kde?15:47
hulu_1because all my settings have gone :(.15:48
hulu_1..after the login worked with gdm.15:48
hulu_1thats really strange.. the theme settings of plasma is still there but, my plasmoid, kontact, desktop wallpaper configurations have gone..15:53
Blues-Manhi guys i ve tried to remove .kde and .kde4 but i still can't access my kde 4.2 home on kubuntu jaunty15:54
Blues-ManI can only access from root with startx15:54
Blues-Mani ve created another user and there is also the same problem15:55
Blues-Manthe problem is that from kdm , after the login i come back in kdm after a black screen15:55
Blues-Man:(15:55
Blues-Manany suggestions?15:57
Blues-Manuntil yesterday it was all ok15:57
hulu_1have you tried gdm?15:57
hulu_1Blues-Man?15:57
Blues-Manno15:57
Blues-Manonly kdm15:57
hulu_1go to command line and type sudo apt-get install gdm.15:57
Blues-Manhulu_1, but if from tty115:57
Blues-Mani type startx15:58
Blues-Manfrom my user I can't access anyway15:58
Blues-Manso maybe is not kdm problem15:58
Blues-Manif i do startx from root it starts...mah!15:58
hulu_1how much disk space you have for your ~/15:58
hulu_1dp15:58
hulu_1o15:58
hulu_1c15:58
Blues-Manmm now 4G15:59
Blues-Manbut before about 500 mb15:59
hulu_1i had the same problem.. and i installed gdm.15:59
Blues-Manah ok so I try with gdm15:59
hulu_1with gdm it worked15:59
Blues-Manwhen I install gdm it ask me about what login manager use16:00
Blues-Manor i have to modify some file?16:00
BluesKajgdm is gnome , so any kde settings will be gone of course16:00
hulu_1bit gdm says that there is no more disk space in my home partition, so im not shure if it is a kdm or a gdm problem. because after that i chaged once again to kdm and now everything works16:00
hulu_1maybe it was the disc space maybe it was kdm.. but now i know how to solve the problem :=16:01
hulu_1=16:01
hulu_1)16:01
utdmrRepeat: Where can i change the system sound theme in Kubuntu Intrepid. I downloaded a system sound package from kdelook, extracted to /usr/share/sounds. How can I activate this?16:01
Blues-Manhulu_1, maybe is the disk space then, anyway i ll try16:01
hulu_1Blues_Man: see the massage of BluesKaj16:01
hulu_1all my plasmoid settings have gone!! so its a stupid solution, but better than nothing..16:02
hulu_1im out now,. it takes me 4 hours to solve this problem.. so i hope it works for you! Blueskaj: Thank you very much for your help and time!!!!16:04
hulu_1Bye16:04
BluesKajhulu_1 , maybe this might work http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde16:05
BluesKajBlues-Man , http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde16:06
progmanos3has anyone successfully compiled amarok svn on kubuntu?16:06
progmanos3i have the -fPIC error16:06
progmanos3i followed the instructions on the amarok wiki16:06
BluesKajprogmanos3 , why bother ...package managers work too ...compliling isn't always the best way to go .16:07
ayaryes... i do it that way too16:07
derjenshello everyone16:08
ayarhi derjens16:08
derjensi did some research on google and found that some try to avoid kubuntu from locking screen during suspend2ram16:09
derjensothers provide scripts for doing so16:09
ayarhey, does anybody when there will be a linux version of google chrome?16:09
derjensi want to lock my desktop when clicking on suspend in the K menu16:09
derjensisnt that kubuntu's default behaviour?16:09
marioswhats the undernet server guys??16:11
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progmanos3BluesKaj: I'm trying to develop for amarok16:16
progmanos3so, i need to recompile it after adding my code16:16
BluesKajprogmanos3 well, if you're developing , this not the place to ask16:18
Blues-Manhi16:18
Blues-Mani ve installed gdm and now it works...16:20
Blues-Manthis is a kdm bug so?16:20
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thomas__i need help with philips webcam16:32
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WindBackI have my ubuntu without xserver installed yet. I want to install kde4 minimal16:38
WindBackHow i can do that?16:38
WindBackI want it in a minimal way16:38
Dr_willisIknow of no kde4-minimal package.. could try installing 'kde' and see what it gets16:39
WindBackwithout useful packages16:39
WindBackok, I have my ubuntu under virtual box, How i can deactivate the opengl neednes before the installation since virtualbox doesnt provide grafic aceleration needed for kde4?16:40
draikHello all.16:42
Dr_willisIt shouldnt matter.    if its not seen it should disalbe from what ive seen.16:42
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WindBackdoes kde4 need graphic aceleration?16:44
WindBackby default16:44
WindBack?16:44
Dr_willisnot that i am aware of.16:45
draikDr_willis: I went to boot from the new 1TB HDD and it was going well until I reached the actual login. I entered my password. The splash screen with the 5 items only loaded the 1st image; image 2 and 3 were blurred and froze at that point.16:46
Dr_willisYou mean the KDE login splash?16:46
alkisg_My laptop touchpad doesn't work with kubuntu 9.04 alpha 4. Could someone point me to a how-to or workaround?16:49
BluesKajalkisg_, suggest you ask in #kubuntu+116:49
Tm_Tubuntu+1 you mean?16:50
alkisg_BluesKaj: thanks, will try that.16:50
draikDr_willis: Yup16:50
Dr_willisdraik,  try a new user.. with no kde settings... as a test?16:50
draikOk. Also, how can I change the boot from GRUB?16:51
draikI can't boot into the 1TB. I can't find it no matter how many times I change the (hd#,#)16:51
BluesKajTm_T, if #kubuntu+1 is clicked on , guess what happens :)16:51
Tm_TBluesKaj: it redirects to #ubuntu+116:51
Dr_willisdoes 'fdisk -l' show it?16:51
BluesKajTm_T, exactly16:52
draikYes, but they are all listed as Cannot open /dev/sd_16:52
draiksda, sdb, sdc, sdd nor sde16:52
Dr_willisyou did use 'sudo' ?16:52
draik:( Sorry.16:52
draikYes, it is found as /dev/sda116:53
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Dr_willis'running fdisk as a user - bad idea from a secutity point of view'16:53
Dr_willissda1 = hd(0,0) - however check the /boot/grub/SOMEFILEIFORGET16:53
Dr_willisit has the names/locations of the hds grub uses16:53
draikmenu.lst?16:53
draikmap?16:53
draikdevice.map   is that it?16:54
Dr_willisyea look in there.16:54
draik(hd0)   /dev/hda16:54
draik(hd1)   /dev/hdb16:54
draik(hd2)   /dev/sda16:54
draikThat's it16:55
draikSo then add (hd2,0)?16:55
Dr_willisYou actually HAVE a /dev/hda ?16:55
draikYup16:55
draik2 SATA, 2 PATA16:56
Dr_willisMy pata disks show up as sata16:56
Dr_willisodd that yours are not.16:56
Dr_willis!libata16:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about libata16:56
Dr_willis!libsata16:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about libsata16:56
draik!info libsata16:56
ubottuPackage libsata does not exist in intrepid16:56
draik!info libata16:56
Dr_willistheres some wiki/factoid on it.16:56
ubottuPackage libata does not exist in intrepid16:56
draikThere is only that one partition on the 1TB. Should it be hd2,0 or hd2,1?16:57
Dr_willisfrom that file.. it looks like the drive is  hd(2,0)16:57
draikOk16:57
Dr_willisgrub starts counting at ZER)16:57
Dr_williszer016:57
Dr_willis:)16:57
Walexdraik: depends which partition it is.16:57
draikThere is only one partition on the drive, Walex16:57
Walexdraik: depends on which partition it is.16:57
Walexdraik: it could be partition 1, 2 3 or 4.16:58
Dr_willisYou could make a partition in such a way thats its #4+ :)16:58
Dr_willisbut thats not a good idea16:58
draikIt should be the first partition because I mount it as /dev/sda116:58
Dr_willisthe 'first/only' parittion is not always guarenteed to be  #1 :)16:59
Dr_willisbut in most cases it is. 'fdisk -l' shows you16:59
draikGood to know16:59
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draikShow it as /dev/sda116:59
oks_hi all16:59
draikThat is the device. Boot shows an asterisk.17:00
Dr_willisthats what it is then. :)17:00
draikawesome.17:00
draikI'll be on my laptop while this reboots. draik_17:00
Dr_willisgrub has a 'find/locate' feature in the grub shell i normally use to find where the boot files are at17:00
draik_Dr_willis: GRUB Error 15: File not found17:02
draik_Do you have the GRUB error link handy?17:02
Dr_willisNot really.  Im on a differnt disrto right now17:02
Dr_willis!google grub17:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about google grub17:02
draik_Ah17:02
Dr_willissilly bot17:02
draik_LOL17:02
draik_I got it17:03
draik_Error 15: This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, but everything else17:03
draik_(like the disk/partition info) is OK.17:04
Dr_williswhikle you are on the grub page.. read up on the grub command line.17:04
draik_I thought I copied it all. Sorry for the break.17:04
Dr_willisit has some 'find' command it can use17:04
Dr_willis!grub17:04
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto17:04
Dr_willis   find /boot/grub/stage117:04
Dr_willisand see wher it says they are at.17:05
draik_I'm not in any shell17:05
draik_I'm still on the GRUB menu for booting an OS17:05
Dr_willisIf you get "Error 15: File not found", try the following:  find /grub/stage117:05
Dr_willisGRUB can get to  a 'grub shell' from there.. some how17:05
Dr_willisC - key perhaps?17:05
draik_c17:05
draik_Hmm17:06
draik_Seems to be (hd1,0)17:06
Dr_willisthe root (hdx,y) stuff is whre /boot/ is at. :) ntio the root of the system17:06
draik_GOT IT17:06
Dr_willisroot (hd1,0)17:06
draik_I'm now on the 1TB17:06
draik_If this works, then I'm going to remove the GRUB menu from the hda and put it all on the sda, then remove the Kubuntu from the 500GB17:07
draik_BRB17:07
evitI have Kubuntu 8.10 and I can't seem to see items saved to the desktop...17:11
evitIs this a bug?17:11
evitim on kde 4.x17:12
evitanyone know if you can save items to the desktop anymore ... because they don't show up anymore17:13
evitanyone?17:15
jussi01evit: there is a folderview thing on the desktop, that is now your "desktop"17:18
jussi01in later versions you can put it back to the old way if you prefer17:18
evitjussi01  ?  I don't understand17:19
jussi01evit: what do you see on your desktop?17:19
evitjussi01 I see nothing, its empty17:20
draik_I think I'm on my 1TB now, but how can I be sure?17:20
jussi01evit: ok, right click the desktop, click add widgets, find folderview and drag it to the desktop. then use the spanner on it to set it to your desktop folder.17:21
evitjussi01 - i wish it were in a logical place to set this17:21
draikI think that while it seems like I'm on my 1TB, I might be back on my 500GB17:21
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evitjussi01 Thanks man17:24
evitjussi01 is there a way to make that less incredibly ugle17:24
evitjussi01 - just kiddin'  but it isnt very configurable17:25
yavorHi everybody17:25
evitor intuitive17:26
yavorI am new to linux17:26
yavorI installed ubuntu17:26
lum_saiswelcome yavor17:26
evitkde 4 needs a LOT of work... dont get me wrong I LOVE it but it is very incomplete17:26
yavorbut do not have any sound17:27
yavorthanks17:27
yavorI am very happy with linux17:27
yavorI think the problem is that I have new notebook17:28
lum_saisbtw evit i m just reading... files do get saved to the "Desktop" folder, it s just the they dont show up visually (i dont know kde 4 well so i not sure whether this is intended or not)17:28
lum_saisyavor do you lack any kind of sound ?17:29
yavorno sound at all17:29
lum_saistryed the obvious stuff, like volume and such ?  :-)17:29
yavorwhen not helping17:29
evitlum_sais:  for an average user this is NOT helpful and very confusing17:30
evitlum_sais: I know kde 4 just isn't as polished as 3.x17:30
yavorwhen I try to test the sound it is beeping untill restart17:31
lum_saisevit I agree with you, I still use kde 3.5 for my laptop (the comp I use for work and such)17:31
evitlum_sais: I hope it improves because it is very very nice17:32
yavorI belive linux does not recognize my sound card17:32
yavorit is high definition audio17:32
lum_saisyes it is nice I also think it s going to improve. do you use 4.1 or 4.2 ?17:33
evitwe have to make it so intuitive that users just "know" how to do things...17:33
evitI dont use 4.2 yet.  I thought it was still testing phase17:34
saifinhello17:34
lum_saisyavor I m a bit lost with your problem but it does seem that something wrong happens with linux and your soundcard (which is strange)17:34
saifinim new to ubuntu17:34
jussi01evit: Im suprised, the folderview should be there by default, and so,  you just "know" ;)17:34
evitjussi01 xD17:35
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yavorI bought my notebook 4 months ago it was brand new architecture17:36
evitjussi01 It's getting there but its far from what I could give my grandmother.  3.x is much more close to that17:36
yavori think thats the problem17:36
yavorit was vista 64-bit17:36
lum_saisyavor have you googled about your notebook spec and linux ?17:36
lum_saisseems like a very specific issue17:36
evitIs KDE 4.2 an official release for 8.10 or only for testing in Jaunty?17:37
yavoryes I did17:37
yavorI found many subjects about the same issue17:37
lum_saisonly for testing, I just installed 8.10 and it comes with 4.117:37
jussi01evit: jaunty is looking good. However, lets keep this channel strictly for support issues, if you want to chat about how  good/bad kde 4.1 is lets go to #kubuntu-offtopic17:38
evitjussi01 tx.  I got to get back to work.  Maybe I will put in some bugs17:39
yavorwhat I personally found is that Alta codecs does not support my audio card17:39
yavorbut not shure17:39
evitjussi01, thanks!17:39
michal__hello17:40
michal__i have problem, and dont know how to solve it...JAVA17:40
yavorthere was people giving advice how to manage with that problem but did not help to me17:40
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michal__i cant enter my banks service because of java...17:41
michal__it seems like i dont have it, coz it says that the web site is not fullu uploaded..17:41
michal__can anuone help me pls with java installation ?17:42
^Luce^ciaoo17:43
^Luce^buona sera17:43
barbar__conan^Luce^: gule gule17:43
barbar__conan:)17:44
Tm_T^Luce^: päivää17:44
Tm_T!jre17:44
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper17:44
Tm_Thmh17:44
michal__i tried to install sun-java6-jre, but no luck..17:46
michal__installation just stopped and nothing happend17:46
michal__im gonna tryout that site you gave17:46
barbar__conandid u ever tried before?17:46
michal__nope, im fresh user of linuks, just got tired of vista and all that crap17:47
barbar__conanno u misunderstand.Did u ever tried to install jre on this O.S. that u use now?17:48
michal__yes, and it didint work17:49
michal__thats why i asked you guys17:50
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ubuntistashow can i completely remove kde-desktop and its programs?17:51
ubuntistasalso switch user doesn't appear in panel when i i just installed kubuntu17:52
ubuntistasany clue?17:52
michal__java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun - i got this after typing a command : sudo update-java-alternatives -l17:54
michal__and i still cannot open that bank service...17:54
draikI'm on my 1TB. This is certain because I removed the partition on the 500GB. When I do "df -h", it does not appear in the list.17:58
draikI take that back, it appears on the list, but not as the full size.17:59
draikIt appears as "/dev/sdc1             347G  287G   42G   88%   /"18:01
DasEidraik:fdisk -l ?18:07
draik_It shows it as /dev/sdc118:08
draik_DasEi: GRUB is right, but now it won't load. How can I get it to be replaced on the 1TB instead of the 500GB where it was originally?18:12
DasEidraik:is your fstab right/ does it use devices or uuids ?18:14
draik_UUIDs18:15
draik_When I boot, it wants to find the GRUB menu on the 500GB instead of the 1TB where I want it to be resident with Kubuntu.18:16
DasEidraik:sudo apt-get install pastebin18:16
DasEidraik:pastebin /boot/grub/mneu.lst18:17
DasEipaste*18:17
draik_I'm currently on my laptop. My desktop is using Super Grub Disk.18:17
draik_I'm trying to find the method for removing GRUB from the MBR18:17
DasEi!grub18:18
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto18:18
DasEidtraik-: in the first link you find a way to install grub to a certain partition18:18
DasEidtraik-: you then need another btmgr to point to grub18:19
draik_DasEi: I'm having SGD boot me into Kubuntu. Just a sec.18:20
draikDasEi: Ok. I'm on my desktop now.18:23
DasEidraik:sudo apt-get install pastebin18:23
draikpastebin isn't an app18:23
DasEidraik:can you give a summary of waht you want to achive on that ?18:23
DasEidraik:sudo apt-get install pastebinit        ,sry18:24
draik!pastebin18:24
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:24
draikDasEi: http://pastebin.com/f38c8603018:24
draik_My desktop just froze. :(18:25
draik_Here is what I had.....18:26
draik_500GB was   |-------WinXP-----|----------------------------------KUBUNTU--------------------------------------|18:26
draik_Now...18:26
draik_500GB |-----------------------------------------------------XP-----------------------------------------------|18:27
draik_1TB |--------------------------------------------KUBUNTU----------------------------------------|18:27
draik_GRUB was on 500GB18:27
draik_I want it to be on 1TB.18:27
Tm_Tdraik_: please don't paste on channell18:27
draik_Tm_T: It's not a paste.18:27
Tm_Tdraik_: whatever it was, your lines made channel quite messy18:28
draik_I'm sorry. Didn't realize it on my end (konversation, if that matters)18:28
DasEidraik-: so both drives are attached, you have xxp bootloader on 500 gb and now want to be able to boot kubu from 1 TB, now using sgd, I see right ?18:30
draik_Yes, that is correct.18:31
draik_I'm at the main menu for SGD18:32
DasEidraik:you have a xp-cd handy in case you run in trouble ? then I'd suggest you just install grub on the 500 , first hd and it should include xp, too18:32
kai_can somebody help me to configure my UMTS Connection on 8.10? (sry for this bad english)18:33
draik_Ok. I can do that. I just want to be sure that I can boot my 1TB18:34
draik_I'm going to boot MBR18:35
draik_Do I want to boot the MBR from the 500GB or 1TB?18:35
DasEidraik:when installing it, did you make grub install on 1 TB's mbr ?18:35
draik_I went through Automatic, so I think it may have gone to 500GB18:36
DasEidraik-: if you sett the pc to boot from 500, which bootloader comes up ?18:36
draik_XP just started18:37
draik_Let me reboot back into SGD18:37
DasEidraik-: so you installed xp after kubu then18:37
draik_Yes, but that was a long time ago18:37
DasEidraik-: way to go is to boot inti kubu via sgd an follow first link, realize the sda1/hd0  thing18:38
draik_I'm going to reboot without SGD. I'm going to see what happens.18:38
DasEi!grub18:38
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto18:38
DasEik, check bios, too18:38
draik_No GRUB found, boots straight into XP18:38
draik_Ok18:38
draik_DasEi: Which option should I use? GRUB exists on the 1TB, but it's not being located during boot18:40
DasEidraik-: if restore grub according the howto, there is a little risk to loose windows, though it's most times seen, so again, make sure you have a cd for (emergency) recovery18:41
draik_root (hd2,0) then setup (hd2)    is that right?18:41
DasEidraik_:must check fdisk -l of 1 tb and figure out /boot18:42
DasEifor grub root = boot  and (hd1,1) is sdb218:42
DasEithe hd(x,x) counts from zero,  the sXX thing from one18:43
draik_It was located earlier18:44
DasEidraik_:so rather hd118:44
DasEidraik_:500 gig = hd0 , 1TB = hd118:45
DasEidraik_:a mount without parameters will show you correct parti-number of /boot18:46
DasEi(on the 1 TB)18:46
gribouillehi19:01
gribouilleI've just installed intrepid, and I've tried to install kde 4.2 as indicated in http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2, but it doesn't wotk19:02
Unksihow it doesnt work?19:02
gribouilleUnksi, I'm still with kde 4.119:02
Unksidoes it install?19:03
gribouillewhat is the command I have to type to upgrade to kde 4.2 ?19:03
Unksigribouille: have you added the repository?19:03
gribouilleUnksi, yes19:03
Unksithen do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:03
gribouillewhy dist-upgrade ?19:04
Unksior open adept and update from there19:04
gribouilleI did apt-get upgrade19:04
gribouillewhat's the difference ?19:04
Unksiyou have to do dist-upgrade so it may install new packages/remove conflicting ones19:04
gribouilleok19:04
Unksiupgrade doesnt do that, it just updates all packages it can without installing new ones or removing other packages19:05
gribouillewhat's the use of upgrade ?19:05
gribouilleand what is the command to upgrade to the next distro, for example from hardy to intrepid ?19:07
Unksigribouille: i guess it could be seen as a safer form of update or if you do not want to make any changes to current installed packages.. never really got the point for that myself19:07
Unksi!upgrade19:07
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes19:07
Unksithere you can find information about upgrading from different versions, and how long they are supported19:08
Unksiit has changed between versions so it is a bit different depending on version, i think update-manager -d or something like that is the current way19:09
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draik_DasEi: 1TB is on hd219:12
draik_500GB is on hd019:12
tahir!kdm19:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm19:13
tahir!theme19:13
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:13
tahir!splashscreen19:16
ubottuTo change your KDE splash screen go to KMenu -> System Settings -> Splash Screen19:16
tahiri dont see splash screen19:16
tahirin my system settings. am i missing any package or something/19:16
Unksitahir: try checking under appearance19:17
ivoin KDE, .desktop files are issues. Because KDE does not check for MIME types/extenssions conflicts, so a user may run a file with a .mp3 (for example) extenssion, that can execute a command (it can be a .desktop file)19:20
tahirits not there either. i recall last time i had to install a special package. imma go look that up19:21
ivohttp://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18028/ this idea shows the problem19:21
thornsHello19:22
thornsAnyone aware of any problems with the keyboard in Kubuntu?19:22
thornsOr KDE419:22
thornsNo repeat rate19:23
thornsCapslock acts as ShiftLock (?)19:23
thornsEnter sends newline19:23
thornsSometimes Capslock led functions in reverse of its actual state19:24
thornsAnd I haven't done any keyboard/Xinput related configurations19:24
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thornsI'm thinking this could be a problem with Hal19:25
thechrisdo you use xmodmap19:25
thornsNo19:26
thechrisor have the wrong keyboard layout selected19:26
thornsNo, not that19:26
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thechrisso, my box won't reboot19:26
thornsI don't think a keyboard layout could do this19:26
thechrisinstead of rebooting, it just displays garbled text19:26
thechrishave you checked the keyboard settings?  they may be in the "reigonal" section, instead of the input devices19:27
gribouilleok, I've upgraded to kde 4.2, and, of course, the new kde fails miserably19:29
gribouillethe problems are :19:29
gribouille- no keyboard input19:29
gribouille- the windows don't have any borders19:29
thornsthechris: Thanks, but it's really not that. Since I have installed Kubuntu, I have changed NOTHING.19:30
thornsthechris: Which can only mean that an update screwed something19:30
thornsgribouille: Hmm... didn't experience the window borders thing19:30
thechrisgribouille: thats possible.  you might need to switch to a different vc and reload kde-window-manager and kde-workspace-bin19:31
geoffrey_salut19:31
thechrisI had dependcy issues with a fresh install and kde4.219:31
gribouillethechris, I even rebooted and deleted ~/.kde, but the result is the same19:31
thechrisand if the install breaks halfway though you'll lose kdb/borders19:31
thornsgribouille: I WAS ABOUT TO DO THAT19:32
thornsdarn it! CAPSLOCK SWITCHED AGAIN RANDOMLY19:32
thornsAND AGAIN19:32
gribouilleit's really unbelievable19:32
thornsIT DOES IT BY ITSELF19:32
gribouillefor years, I used redhat/fedora, and I didn't experience such problems19:32
thorns:(19:32
thechrisgribouille: i think kde4.2 just isn't ready in the packages yet19:33
thornsthat might not be it19:33
gribouillethechris, what do you mean ?19:33
thechristhere are tonsof system configs, the package is new, and clearly hasn't been well tested19:33
gribouillethechris, so, why is it available ?19:34
thechrisI've had the exact same issues as you, but it was becasue the install failed half way19:34
gribouillethechris, so, what did you do ?19:34
thechrisgribouille: its not really -- you have to enable a testing archive to get access to it19:34
thornsthechris: I don't believe packages enter the repository without being well tested19:35
gribouillethorns, so, why does it fail ?19:35
thechrisgribouille: so, i had to remove ksyslog, something else, and kde-window-manager, then install kde-workspace19:36
hyper_chhow do I properly run strigi daemon in kde 4.2?19:36
gribouillethechris, what is kde-workspace ?19:37
thechristhorns: its in the pre-release / testing repository.  In this case, i'm guessing it wasn't tested on amd64 kubuntu 8.10 installs, as it certainly doesn't work.19:37
thechrisgribouille: its a pacakge that contains the same file as another package, and this conflict breaks the install19:38
thechrislike if you were to try to apt-get anything, it would probably not work...19:38
thornsgribouille: I do not know. But I think I can rule out thechris' idea.19:38
gribouilleso, I think I'll stock with hardy and kde 3 for a long time19:39
gribouilles/stock/stick19:39
thechriswell, to happen, i would suspect that the kde install failed.  so if you got or still get errors with apt get, my suggestions are more likely19:40
thechrisas I'm saying I don't think you actually finished the KDE4.2 install19:40
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gribouillethechris, yes it failed at some point19:40
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thechrisgribouille: and did you fix it before restarting kde?19:40
gribouillethechris, it told me to type "apt-get -f install", which I did and it resumed normally19:40
failers^is it a known bug that when using compiz you get some minor graphical bugs?19:41
thechrisgribouille: really?  you were lucky19:41
gribouillethechris, nit really, because my system is broken now19:41
thechrisgribouille: in anycase, you might want to remove and reinstall kde-workspace19:42
gribouillethechris, do you think it will solve the problem ?19:42
thechrisreallistically, i think it won't let you reinstall, and from there it will allow you to solve the problem19:43
thechrisbut in the end, yes.19:43
ivan_que ondas aqui19:43
ivan_que onditas19:44
ivan_esto parece un chat:S19:44
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gribouillethere is no kde-workspace on my system19:44
anthonybobcat19:45
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ivan_simon19:45
Guest34461bobcat19:45
ivan_no entiendo ni papa19:45
thechrisgribouille: ah, that might be an issue as well19:45
gribouilleI tried apt-get install kde-workspace, but apt-get didn't find it19:45
thechrisoh, it must be something similarly named19:46
thechriskdebase-workspace19:47
gribouilleok, it seems ok. the problem was just that the package kde-window-manager wasn't installed19:48
thechrisah, and it allowed you to install it?19:48
gribouillethechris, yes19:48
thechrisman, it put up much less fight for you!19:48
gribouillethechris, but it was just by chance19:49
renzohola19:49
thechristhough i don't think i'm going to solve my reboot issues19:49
gribouilleI just don't understand how apt  could install kde 4.2 without a window manager19:49
renzoalguna persona habla españaol19:49
Led_ZeppelinTrying to install kde4 for Ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy). When I login to Kde4 session, I get a blank screen. Any ideas how I can fix this?19:49
thechrisgribouille: you issued the -f, maybe thats what it decided to force19:50
renzoque me pueda ayudar19:50
gribouilleLed_Zeppelin, you're not going to have mutch fun with kde 4 under gutsy19:50
Led_Zeppelinwhy is that?19:51
Led_ZeppelinI don't like the new ubuntu because of its inittab19:51
gribouilleLed_Zeppelin, even under hardy it sux19:51
Led_Zeppelinits has too many wierd kind. I like old school stuff19:51
Led_Zeppelinwhy does it suck?19:51
Led_ZeppelinIts the same OS with different kernel version19:51
Led_Zeppelinwhats is thissue?19:51
gribouilleLed_Zeppelin, so stick with old school software, like kde 319:51
failers^why cant i add kubuntu experimental ppa to software sources or well i can add it but when i update my package manager i dont think i get the "experimental" packages19:52
Led_ZeppelinI have used KDe4 and its really nice. Just that I don't want to upgrade my entire OS for it.19:52
gribouilleLed_Zeppelin, you'll have to, sooner or later19:53
Led_Zeppelingribouille, not really.19:53
thechrisfailers^: so, if you did if from adept, it might not have worked19:54
thechrisi know adept messed up for me19:54
gribouilleLed_Zeppelin, kde 4 is broken under gutsy & hardy19:54
Led_Zeppelinoh...19:54
Led_Zeppelindidn't know that.19:54
gribouilleLed_Zeppelin, I tried it19:54
failers^thechris hm ok can you help me with giving me the konosle command to add it then since i dont quite get it after reading the guides on the ppa homepage19:55
failers^*konsole19:55
thechrisfailers^: i guess:  sudo $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list19:57
thechrisi use vim, but its got a very steep learning curve just to modify one file19:57
thechrisand i've got no idea what the non-vim editors installed by default would be19:57
failers^thechris ok19:59
senorpedronano is pretty easy to use20:01
failers^btw what should i chmod my home/user/.gnupg/gpg.conf to since it warns about wrong permission20:02
failers^and im always logged in on root user so :P20:02
tahir!ping20:04
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore20:04
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cuznt!botsnack20:13
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!20:13
failers^!fail20:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fail20:13
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slow-motionhi20:18
ockonalHello20:20
ockonalPlease, tell me how to update kde 4.1 to 4.2?20:20
athlon1Hallo. I use vmware for virutalization. But I'd like to know if any has tested a good opensource virtual machine software which support, at least, windows and linux and have a good interface to manage it.20:20
ockonalathlon: VirtualBox?20:21
ockonalathlon1: VirtualBox?20:21
athlon1Doest it support windows and linux and have a good interface to manage it?20:21
thechrisockonal: there is a guide on kubuntu.org that has mixed results20:21
ockonalathlon1: yeah20:21
ockonalathlon1: user-friendly interface and many supported os20:22
athlon1OK, I'm going to try it...20:22
athlon1Thanks20:22
ockonalthechris: at least, i know hot to do it. But i had some trouble20:22
ockonalathlon1: ;)20:22
thechrisockonal: so, you might have to juggle some of the dependencies20:23
thechrisbut it seems to be different for some people20:23
ockonalthechris: after package downloading i had some error. Something about Api20:23
thechristhe apt-get -f install will work for some people20:24
ockonalthechirs: ok, thanks. I'll try it now.20:24
ockonalthechirs: i wasn't at Linux much time :).20:24
ockonalthechirs: ok, after re-updating i have that error again. Can i post it for u?20:26
thechrisockonal: i've been using gentoo for years, and was hoping that *buntu would be good.20:26
paolo_hi, does wxwidgets use the standard c++ library ?20:26
thechrisockonal: so, you might want to find a pastebin service to post the error20:26
thechrisockonal: see /topic20:26
ockonalthechris: The requested operation could not be completed20:27
ockonalthechirs: i can't come to site20:27
paolo_I know this question could seem absurd but I need to know if it optimizes that for embedded stuff20:28
ockonalpaolo_: wikipedia knows it ;))20:28
paolo_ockonal: I don't believe that20:28
ockonalthechirs: it something with my browser. I'll be back :) Wait, please20:29
bigjockeris there a way to make the KDE 4.2 kickoff look like the main menu of KDE 3.5?20:31
bigjockeri dont like the tabs20:31
BluesKajbigjocker , right click on the kmenu , choose classic menu style20:33
bigjockerBluesKaj, oh20:34
bigjockerlol20:34
bigjockerthanks20:34
BluesKajnp :020:34
BluesKajI prefer it too20:34
thechris"configure file sharing" in dolphin does nothing20:35
thechrisis there something that needs to be done to make it do something?20:35
thechrisany idea how to restart samba?20:43
ockonalthechirs: Thanks. Allest ist gut :)20:44
thechristhats good20:46
ockonalthechris: but after rebooting a had no kwin20:47
ockonalthechris: and input-devices didn't work :)20:47
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ockonalthechris: do u programming? I have one question about kde420:53
senorpedrothechris: /etc/init/samba restart21:00
thechrisockonal: i don't program for kde21:00
ockonalthechris: Ok. Thanks a lot.21:00
bigjockeri'm liking kde4 so muh after i changed the kicker look and feel to the classic one21:03
asobimy ipod doesn't unmount21:03
ockonalasobi: how did u try?21:12
ockonalbigjocker: after kde 4.2 releasing there are many thinks to like it ;)21:13
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asobithe disconnect button in amarok21:20
ockonalasobi: kde4?21:20
asobino 321:20
asobihardy21:21
ockonalasobi: mm.. I can't remember, are there any function in Dolphin int kde321:21
asobii use konqueror21:21
asobiwhen i connect ipod, it will mount21:21
asobibut then amarok won't unmount21:22
asobii tried deleting settings and redoing it but failed21:22
asobimaybe i should put in fstab?21:22
ockonalasoby: wait, please21:23
ockonalasoby: lsusb in console21:25
ockonalasoby: what the text21:25
asobihttp://pastebin.com/m1102b1e321:26
asobinot sure it says 40G, it's 20...21:27
triphyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo21:30
ockonalasobi: ok21:30
ockonalasoby: you may use #umount21:30
ockonalasoby: dir /dev/21:31
asobiwhoa21:31
ockonalasobi: ?21:31
asobihttp://pastebin.com/d756ea98021:31
ockonalasobi: wow :)21:32
ockonalasobi: by what thing your iPod connected to the comp?21:33
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asobiusb21:33
ockonalasobi: try this: umount /dev/usb_drive21:33
ockonalasobi: but i'm not shure, that it'll help u21:34
asobiO.o21:34
asobilet me try amarok again21:34
asobinope21:34
asobihmm21:34
asobii don't think i want to do that21:35
ockonalasobi: :)21:35
asobii have more than 1 usb connected21:35
asobiwhat's cmd for list of mounted devices?21:37
kaiserhi21:39
ockonalasobi: man umount21:39
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ockonalkaiser: hi21:39
=== Guest36584 is now known as El
Elhola21:40
asobinope21:41
asobiit unmounts...but ipod screen still shows "do not disconnect"21:41
senorpedroasobi: mount21:42
senorpedrojust type 'mount' in the shell21:43
senorpedrothen you'll see all mounted devices21:43
asobiyea, i got that21:43
asobii can't unmount21:43
asobior at least my ipod doesn't think it's unmounted...21:43
senorpedrowhat message?21:44
asobiit unmounts...but ipod screen still shows "do not disconnect"21:44
senorpedroso?21:44
asobimy ipod has trouble turning on21:44
senorpedrois it bad to unplug the ipod if it shows this message?21:45
asobii am guessing yes21:45
senorpedrotry remounting/unmounting the ipod21:45
senorpedromaybe then21:45
slhkasobi: it happens to me also with my mobile phone and with the psp, I just make sure I actually unmounted it and ignore the messsage on the device21:45
asobidone that multiple times21:45
asobihmm21:45
senorpedroyeah, just pull the plug21:46
asobii have21:46
asobibut lately my ipod has trouble turning on...21:46
senorpedrostill the message?21:46
senorpedrowell its on right now, is it?21:46
asobiyea21:46
asobiwell, i don't want to wait until it fails to turn on -_-21:46
slhkyou may try with a fsck21:47
senorpedroyou mean when you now turn it off you cant turn it back on?21:47
asobifsck?21:47
asobii think maybe i should put it in fstab?21:47
slhkfsck checks the filesystem21:47
asobifsck /dev/ipod?21:48
senorpedrodoes fsck work with the ipod filesystem?21:48
slhkyes, take a look at man fsck eventually21:48
slhkit should be a vfat filesystem21:49
slhkyou can get more info with sudo vol_id /dev/ipod21:50
=== cadaverpimp is now known as draik_
draik_Can someone help me restore GRUB? I have XP on 500GB and Kubuntu on 1TB.21:54
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asobii think i need to add it to fstab21:54
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Milusoshola21:54
slhkasobi: you need only if you want to have it mounted automatically at boot time or you want to (u)mount it from the command line as a user (without sudo)21:57
slhkif you access it through konqueror or dolphin you don't need to21:57
asobiit works fine in konqueror, just not amarok22:00
asobii think it's confused between the dev and the mount point22:00
=== g_steinert is now known as gsteinert
senorpedroyeah, amarok sucks with mounted devices22:01
asobithey need to fix it -_-22:01
macois there a way to have a folder load in a tab in the *background* in kmail instead of taking over that whole part of the screen with a splash screen?22:03
asobithank you all, as long as my ipod works, it's fine22:04
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=== quassel102 is now known as halfsane
halfsanehey gents,  can you configure desktop cube in KDE 4.2 to allow dragging windows or text to another workspace?22:07
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thornshalfsane: sure22:08
thornshalfsane: It should be a setting under the window manager settings dialog22:08
thornsIe. allowing of dragging of windows between workspaces22:09
halfsanethorns: I'm new to KDE, I cannot find that setting22:16
=== noelle is now known as Hugs
ghostcubehalfsane, afaik not have u checked the cube settings22:17
halfsaneghostcube:  yes, there isn't much there   seems much more configurable using compiz in gnome unless im missing something22:20
macohalfsane: you could still use compiz...22:21
macohalfsane: kwin doesnt have all of compiz's insane # of plugins22:22
twisterz:)22:22
twisterzyaaa22:23
halfsanemaco: gotcha, I am digging kwins integration into KDE a lot, but it sounds like I may be overall happier with compiz from what I gather22:23
thornshalfsane: Opem System Settings from the KDE Menu, click Window Behaviour Icon, move to the Advanced tab, enable Active Desktop Borders only when moving windows22:23
twisterzL)22:23
halfsanethrons: thats it , thanks a ton!22:23
thornshalfsane: no problem22:24
thornshalfsane: please consider using tab completion on nick names, ie. type "tho" then press TAB once or twice or more22:24
halfsanethorns: good call     ill do that22:25
thorns:-)22:26
=== jonathan0593 is now known as zeus
ockonalwhich of u use Python for programming?22:36
ockonalIn Eclipse+PyDev i've created  some module: module_name22:37
ockonalthere is 1 class: main.py22:37
ockonalwhen i tried to import it: from module_name import MainClass22:38
ockonalImportError: No module named module_name.MainClass22:38
gleyveI have some problemas with synaptic22:44
gleyveanyone could help me?22:44
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ockonalgleyve: ?22:46
gleyveE: acpi-support: problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado22:47
gleyvesome dependecy problem22:47
gleyvedependencies porblems22:47
gleyvenow my firefox doesn't work anymore22:47
gleyveI've installed the ubutu update, after my synaptic broke22:48
carpiican anyone recommend a good color picker for web developers on kde ?22:48
ockonalcarpil: there is a plasmoid22:49
ockonalcarpil: just find it :)22:50
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=== Ardarandir1 is now known as Ardarandir
wildbathello ^^23:08
nate_where should i extract/install tar files23:10
nate_home?23:11
wildbatno body home xD23:11
wildbatwhat you are trying to do ?23:12
nate_palpc23:12
wildbatyou can extract tart file whereever you have access right23:12
nate_is there a best place to, i have read it is not good to install in /home23:13
maconate_: extracting and installing are different things23:15
nate_where would you install such a prog23:15
wildbatidk what palpc are but extracting don't have anything to do with install ( normally you do extract the make, make install , etc)  )23:16
wildbatthen*23:17
nate_after the make can i remove the extracted folder23:17
wildbatafter you install , yes23:17
nate_thanks, also i have a hella time with youtube and firefox, sometimes it plays fine other times the time comes up Nan:NaN and is glitchy.23:18
wildbatNaN?  you have screenshot>23:20
wildbat?23:20
nate_nan:nan in the time into the video spot, googled it might meant Not A Number.23:23
macothat's the usual meaning for NaN in Java and Javascript23:24
maconot sure about other langs23:24
carpiiyeah it usually means unassigned, or infinity23:24
carpiieither way, its not valid :p23:24
carpiii dont have any youtube problems, but im on kde 3.523:25
nate_thought maybe there was an algarythem problem23:25
wildbatmay be connection problem like bad signal in wifi ?23:26
nate_what hardwired, hope not23:26
nate_not what , is23:26
wildbator may be the server problem ~ you have and problem other then youtube?23:27
nate_how do i know which dke im running23:28
nate_*kfr23:28
nate_*kde23:28
nate_blah23:28
PhilRodhelp -> about kde in any kde app23:28
wildbatbtw, ppl i am having funny problem on my laptop,  the lid switch isn't working until i suspend RAM or the timer turn the screen off any clue?23:29
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nate_3.5.1, its only some videos, is that probly a server thing23:30
macohow do i make KDE stop opening everything in ~/Documents?  KRunner opens there, and i want it to stop23:31
wildbatstop KRunner ? ^^b23:32
macowildbat: no, i want KRunner to start in ~, not ~/Documents23:32
macoTerminator keep starting in Documents too. i cant find any setting thats telling KDE to treat $HOME as meaning ~/Documents instead of ~23:33
=== diego is now known as Guest71818
Guest71818ai pessoal, alguem sabe pq o flash player nao funciona no firefox3 no kurumin NG?23:36
Raylzhi, how can i set the folderview widget fullscreen in kde 4.223:37
Raylzdid you integrate that option yet?23:37
wildbatmaco: no idea ~ i don't have Documents @ home23:43
failers^Raylz23:56
Raylzaye?23:56
failers^right click on desktop got to appearence settings change desktop activity to folder view23:57
failers^and you get desktop "full screen" on the desktop23:57
failers^if you get what i mean :)23:57
Raylzfailers^: oh, well hidden :)23:58
Raylzty23:58
failers^np23:58
wildbatis KDE4.2 good to use ? what's news?23:59
Raylzwildbat: it feels a bit slow23:59

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